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Nov. 21, 2017 - Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes
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I love that song.
What an incredible album.
The beat, known in America as the English Beat, Dave Wakeling and Ranking Roger have split, and there's two English beats now.
They still tour.
They're still great.
What an amazing time that was for Britain, all those Jamaicans, the Yardies, making beautiful ska music with their British friends.
That's what I call assimilation.
New York Post today, NYPD Lou, Brooklyn College kids banish cops.
Get this.
Brooklyn College has said that if police officers have to use a bathroom, they can use this disgusting one at the other end of the campus where no students go because cops, a lot of students don't feel comfortable around cops.
It makes safe spaces feel not so safe.
Well, there was a recent attack at Illinois college where an Antifa faculty member attacked two Trump kids, two college Republicans.
So we'll have that video on the show, as well as those two college Republicans.
We also have my buddy Steve, who hates everywhere but America.
Every time I bring up another country, he says, I don't care.
Why are you talking about that place?
Like, it could be Germany, it could be anywhere.
He doesn't care.
And so I sent him to Times Square and tried to get him to learn about other cultures, other people.
And he came out saying, I love America even more.
So we have footage of that.
We're also going to talk about this group that has a self-help group for racists where black, white, Jewish, old people get together and talk about how racist they are, which is obviously not racist.
It's stupid.
And I think that's it, right, Dave?
Oh, yeah.
I have to talk about my weekend.
I was at Restoration Weekend, and I'm going to talk about that for a long ass time because I was with Steve Benn and Mark Stein, Katie Hopkins, James O'Keefe, Ann Coulter, Mickey Kaus, Dave Rubin, Red Pill Black, Joy Villa.
I mean, I was with every Sebastian Gorka, every relevant conservative in the world.
Ezra Levant was there, and we partied.
Let me tell you about it.
I was at Restoration Weekend this weekend, and I just got back.
A lot of fun.
Actually, left early.
I got conversationed out.
I don't know.
I mean, it was very stimulating.
Too stimulating, maybe.
And I was talking to intellectuals the entire time.
But eventually, you know, you kind of get conversationed out.
And as far as the speeches go, a lot of them are directed to old rich people.
And it's saying, we're doing this fight.
We're fighting hard.
We'd appreciate your donations.
I don't have a donation account.
So I don't know.
I kind of got spoiled.
I also, to talk a little more about myself, I'm not a leisure guy.
So yes, there's these incredibly interesting talks and stimulating conversations, but a lot of it is just wandering around the Breakers and West Palm Beach.
And if I was retired, I would love that.
I'd go for a swim, but I don't enjoy leisure.
I always feel like I should be with my kids.
You know, every time I'm at a bar and I'm having a dumb conversation with someone and my kids are awake, like it's in the day, I go, I should be at home with my children.
I should be, you know, helping to enrich their lives rather than talking to a stranger.
Now, of course, you need a life at some point, but if I'm going to take a vacation, I'd rather do it with my wife or something.
Anyway, I hung out with Joy Villa a lot.
I don't know why we get along so well.
It's tough for me as a racist to get along with black people so well, but it seems like every party I go to, even my kids, were genetically drawn to people of color.
Maybe it's my curse.
It's my punishment for being a Nazi.
She actually showed me, her manager showed me an email she received warning her that I have secret Nazi tattoos and she shouldn't be seen with me.
And then I started talking to other black people I know and they go, yeah, I got that email too.
I just ignored it.
Why does the left care who we hang out with?
I think it's because they see blacks as their little pets and they don't like us with their pets.
Dante Nero was this black comedian that I started Proud Boys with and This American Life NPR, they hated that.
So they did a whole thing with him where they said they're secretly Nazis and he went, no, okay, I believe you and stabbed us in the back.
So it works sometimes.
Robert Spencer was there.
He's now known as not Richard Spencer.
Someone was asking me about my tattoos.
All these old rich donors too, they feel like they just own you.
And I sort of felt like going, I'm not courting any donors, so you can't just grab my arms and ask me what my tattoos mean.
But Robert Spencer was there and I go, oh, it's a long diet tribe denying the Holocaust.
And Robert Spencer goes, really?
And I go, dude, of course not, you lunatic.
He's usually a pretty funny guy.
And I've just finished his book, Islamophobe, which I highly recommend.
He's sort of making it cool to be Islamophobic.
I am an Islamophobe.
Then that night, on Friday night, I had drinks with Ann Coulter and Mickey Kaus.
And it was the most engaging and intellectual conversation of my life.
Half of the time I was there, I was thinking, if this was transcribed, it could be like my dinner with Andre.
It would be an amazing movie or book.
And there's even a plot twist in it.
At one point, this guy just sits down and starts staring at us, listening to our interesting conversation.
And, you know, I don't want things taken out of context, or someone's playing devil's advocate, and he goes and runs and tells the media that and gets it all backwards, which happens all of the time.
So he's ruining our evening.
He's ruining our incredible conversation.
So I jump on a grenade and I just lean over to him and I go, what are you doing?
And I realize he's a mental patient.
And he goes, I'm just eavesdropping.
And I go, eavesdropping.
Think of that word.
It has negative connotations, does it not?
No one proudly says, hi, I'm an eavesdropper.
It's seen as a bad thing because it is a bad thing.
So stop it.
And he goes, I have a right to sit here and have dinner.
And I go, yeah, sort of.
And then he starts getting angry with me.
So I start getting angry with him.
And now we're borderline getting kind of violent.
And he says, wasn't there a review of your book where you talked about watching someone's head blow up?
Didn't you see someone get their head blown off?
What?
And I go, no, are you threatening to blow my head off?
And I'm like looking at my knife and my peripheral vision.
You know, this is the life of a conservative.
And I'm with it.
He's likely a conservative, this guy.
And then I just said, look at you, okay?
You're mentally ill.
You're wearing ski pants.
He had ski pants on.
He had a suit on, but the pants of the suit said assent.
And I could tell they were for skiing.
I go, you're damaged.
Your divorce ruined your life.
You're wearing ski pants.
You're not normal.
Get out of here.
So he just, he was in a rage, but he was facing away.
So it worked.
That's what you do.
But wow, was it fascinating?
Then I saw Steve Bannon talk, which was great.
That guy is just so charming and so relaxed.
Maybe charming isn't the word.
Like Jesse Waters is charming.
He charmed the pants off the whole place when he did his.
But Steve Bannon is just sort of soothing and intelligent and disarming in a way.
When he was talking, you feel like you're talking to your uncle or something, your slightly drunk uncle.
No, not, I mean like four beers.
Okay, relax.
I have to be so careful now when I talk about people.
But he was just saying, you know, people talk, you know, no script, no teleprompter.
He goes, people talk about how smart Hillary is.
I think she's dumb as a stick.
And then he also said, I am a fire-breathing nationalist and a patriot, and I'm proud of it.
The crowd was going nuts.
And he just talked about the election.
And one great story he had, too, is he talked about Ohio.
There's an Ohio state fair, and Hillary is such a snob, such a mobster, that she goes, I'm not deigning to go there.
That's stupid.
Trump takes a helicopter there, lands in the middle of the state fair, comes out, they're selling pork chops.
He grabs one, cleans it off the bone, and then he yells to the kids, who wants helicopter rides?
And then he starts taking 10-year-olds, 13-year-olds, little kids on helicopter rides.
They go around for a little bit and back again.
Who's next?
That is why he won.
Because he likes people.
He likes Americans.
And Greg Gutfeld actually once told me that about Trump, that he's really curious about you.
What's going on?
How many kids do you have?
Are they at private school, public school?
Oh, okay, where is that?
Are they into sports?
Like, he wants to know everything about you.
And that's the kind of person who genuinely enjoys people.
He's a chatty Kathy.
I did a talk.
I just did it about Proud Boys because I feel like there's a lot of doom and gloom.
And Katie Hopkins was there.
She was very careful to say, well, she said, I'm not Milo, by the way, nor am I his mom.
But she said, I don't want to be doom and gloom here.
But it is dire.
Sorry, I'm off at a tangent, but she said that, you know, she's had the police around her house for her views.
They've even threatened to take her children away.
And she said to the child services people, but we've just made them prawn salad.
That's quite posh.
But she was amazing.
I went up to her and I said, excuse me, Katie, I'm sorry.
And then I just dropped to my knees and went, not worthy, not worthy.
We hugged.
I saw her and Ezra Levant chatting, and they might be, I think he was trying to woo her for Rebel.
There's some gossip.
I had drinks with Ezra, but one frustrating thing about that man is he does not drink.
He'll have one drink.
We went to Paris after Battaclan and he had one drink.
But so Katie was saying, I don't want to be negative, and it is fight, and we're here to fight.
And I just, I did my talk to sort of say to these old timers, look, there are those of us who are fighting, physically fighting.
We are going to these things.
If Lauren Southern, Ben Shapiro, Steven Crowder, they want to do a talk, we will be there, and we will physically fight our way in and out.
So I don't like this.
I got a lot of old people saying, I'm glad I'm on the last nine holes.
Or Coulter saying, I'm glad I don't have kids because the future doesn't look bright.
I don't like that kind of talk.
It's quitter talk.
So I made it clear to these old timers that there's some of us who enjoy this fight.
Emi Horowitz was there talking about his videos, which are amazing, so ballsy.
I'm going to have him on the show.
I'm going to get all these people on the show.
That was one of the great things about going.
But he showed the video where he waved an ISIS flag at Berkeley and no one minded.
Then he waved an Israeli flag and people were screaming at him saying he's a murderer.
That's really where we're at now.
Israel has got the reputation of South Africa.
And South Africa doesn't even have apartheid anymore.
South Africa is bad for whites now.
But people are incurious.
So they go, South Africa will always be apartheid and Israel is apartheid.
Never mind that there's Muslims living in Israel and Muslims in the parliament.
I hung out with some proud boys from Cuba too.
That's the beauty of proud boys.
You just, wherever I am, I just go, anyone from the local chapter?
Boom, they show up, we talk, fascinating guys.
Cubans obviously hate capitalism.
He had a weird car.
Did I send you that picture, Dave?
Yeah, look at his car.
I go, wait a minute, Polaris, don't they make ATVs?
And he goes, yes, this basically is a very fancy ATV.
It's like 25 grand or something.
But we hung out.
He got out of jail for selling diabetic strips without a license.
You know, there's So many people in prison for victimless crimes.
The strips he was selling were real diabetic strips, not like they were counterfeit, and he has sued journalists who have said otherwise, but because his license wasn't permitted to sell them online, they followed him for years until he had sold like $6 million worth and then threw him in prison for unlicensed diabetic strip testing.
It reminded me of that dude.
There's a guy who was selling, I think, lobster tails out of a bag instead of a box.
And he did seven years.
He said the dude above him in the prison, which was minimum security, is looking at like five to ten years because he was taking investors' money, telling them he was investing in Facebook, but Facebook was no longer available or something.
So he was investing in other stuff and making them money.
And anytime anyone cash out, they cashed out.
So it wasn't a pyramid scheme.
The money was generating income, but just not how they thought.
So he's looking at prison.
Busy bodies, man, I'm telling you, you could go to prison tomorrow.
Hillary Clinton guaranteed that the Muhammad video guy would go to jail before she knew who he was.
She knew she'd find something, and she did.
He violated some parole, used a wrong name, that's something.
Make sure you always keep these people, these prisoners, human in your mind, because they are, and you will eventually be one.
I'll be one.
Katie Hopkins was almost arrested.
I mean, Britain is a fascist dictatorship.
Red Pill Black, remember we had Blair White on the show and we were talking about her.
Again, I end up talking to her for all of Friday night.
I went up.
Milo is always so busy.
He's always in a rush.
And so we come upstairs and I go, what's with your teeth?
You look like a handsome horse.
You look like a horse movie star.
This is how friends riff.
But Milo is so used to people kissing his ass that I don't think he's comfortable being insulted.
I think his husband was there, and I don't think his husband likes it either.
But we run upstairs.
Come on, darling, come upstairs.
You want some champagne?
No, I don't drink champagne.
I'm a dude.
And then his manager opens a mini bar.
Do you want something here?
And I'm like, Milo, I just want to hang out.
Let's go down to the bar.
And he goes, okay.
And then he puts on a robe and slippers and he goes, I need to work on my speech, darling.
And I go, okay, I get that.
That's cool.
I think you should wing it.
You're witty enough to wing it.
But fine, work on your speech.
But I'm not going to sit here and watch you type.
And he goes, yes, yes, yes.
Quiet, quiet.
All right, well, let's go downstairs.
Okay, are you going to put your pants back on?
No.
So he goes to the, we go to the bar, the hotel bar, and he's got a gown on and slippers.
He's an eccentric British man.
Uncle Monty from Withnail and I. That's a movie both Milo and I adore.
Oh, I adore you.
Are you a sponge or a stone?
Do you absorb?
You've got to watch the movie With Nail and I and Uncle Monty.
I could quote it for days.
So then I'm sitting down at a table, like I didn't have enough stimuli with Ann Coulter and Mickey Kaus.
I'm sitting down with Milo, Candace Owens, Red Pill Black, and Dave Rubin, and Douglas Murray.
Do you remember him?
He was a guest on Dave's show.
He talks a lot about the Islamification of England.
And there he is, that's Douglas Murray.
And James DeMoore.
This is all at one table.
I was spoiled rotten.
Everywhere I turn, it's someone.
And these people, it's not like they turn it on when the camera's on and then they're boring in their real life.
They were all Milo, Milo's bodyguards from another gig showed up just to say hi.
All fascinating human beings.
And this guy, James, had just won the, what's it called?
What's it called?
The Annie Edson Taylor Award.
Annie Edson Taylor is this chick who, back in the, I don't know, 1800s or something, she went over Niagara Falls in a barrel to pay off her debts, which, by the way, she did not enjoy.
And she said, lest we never have a soul where one must do such a thing again, or however they talked.
Like, she's wearing a corset and a gown when she got into the barrel.
Things were better back then.
So David Horowitz gives out this award, the Annie Edson Taylor Award.
I was green with envy watching all these people get it.
I want it.
But James DeMoir was the guy at Google who got fired for sending out a memo that clearly stated, look, I love women.
They're great in the workforce, but maybe they don't need to be exactly 50% of everything.
Is it possible that something that's really concentratey, like data, whatever, programming, is it possible there's going to be more men there and that's fine?
That's all he said.
But no, fired.
Sexist.
So I'll get all these people on the show and I talk to them about my speech.
I got to get my speech in there.
I met Sebastian Gorka too, who is nine feet tall, incredibly imposing figure, very charming.
Sometimes, you know, this is going to sound terrible.
Sometimes when you meet these people, your idols, like Mark Stein was there too, John Cardillo, John Cardillo, and you meet all these people, you just start to think, some people are just better.
Is it possible that there are better people?
Is Sebastian Gorka just better than us?
Like Jimmy Kimmel, try doing his job for a night.
You won't be able to do it.
Try get in an argument with Sebastian Gorka about the Middle East, about Turkey, about Islam.
Go ahead.
Make my day.
He's just better.
Sorry.
Some people are better.
But I got all their info.
I'll have them all on the show.
And I got to say, overall, you know, meeting all these people, James O'Keefe was there, you just get this overall vibe that something exciting is happening.
You know, this didn't feel like a fuddy-duddy conference, even though most of the attendees are old rich people.
The James O'Keefe Fenan and Joy Villa and even Gorka, but Milo and all these people, James Damore and Dave Rubin, Red Pill Black, you really felt like this is a new movement.
And all these people were really brave and charming and they were enjoying their lives and they were enjoying the fight.
They enjoyed getting in brawls with people.
They enjoyed the attacks.
Katie Hopkins has been to death and back and she loves it.
She's invigorated and she's happy.
That's the other thing.
These people weren't beaten down.
They were inspired And it was an honor to serve with them.
Uhuru.
You want to see something ridiculous?
A bunch of people who clearly aren't racist sitting in a group and talking about how racist they are.
By definition, that means you're not one.
Can you imagine a real racist?
Ha, I'm racist.
I hate blacks.
I'm going, sorry to do a southern accent, but I'm going to a church to talk to Jews and black people about how racist I am.
This is getting ridiculous.
Watch this.
I'm not racist.
Hi, I'm Gavin McInnes, and I'm not a racist.
A racist is someone who judges people based on their race.
So they meet someone and they go, sorry, not my cup of tea.
But I love the Mets, and I love 70s punk, and I love the same humor as you.
And if I worked at your company, by the way, I would generate tons of income for the company.
Yeah, but you're a race, and I don't like races, because I'm a racist.
Does that guy sound really weird to you?
Why is he denying himself a decent employee or a friend based on pigment?
Now, you can notice patterns.
That's not racist.
You can notice that the Irish get a little ornery after some whiskeys.
You can notice that Kenyans keep winning the New York City Marathon.
But when it comes to individuals, you start with a blank slate.
And that's what everyone does.
So my contention is racists don't really exist.
And when you find someone who's like that, they usually hate Germans and Spaniards and British and Northern Americans and people from Canada.
They're nuts, in other words.
And say you do find someone that seems to be racist, they're just a thin veneer away from going, yeah, I'm over it.
Like they'll probably hate flip-flops more.
If there's a black guy with boots on and a white racist with boots on and then a white guy with flip-flops, the racist is going to go, I'll hang out with you and talk about the match in 70s punk.
I don't want to be around Captain flip-flops over here.
But racism is a big industry, and it's not just part of our economy, it's part of our culture.
So instead of being rational and saying, admitting that, look, it's 2017, it's basically like smoking.
It's done.
Let's stop talking about it all the time.
We're all pretty normal now, especially young people.
Young people are the most colorblind generation ever.
No, we can't do that because there's too much at stake.
There's pamphlets been made, there's t-shirts, there's entire identities based on saying something is racist and I don't like racism.
So we're going to dilute the equation and take the word down to meaning, I don't know, you notice something.
And now we have this pastor who has started a group where people who aren't racist say they're racist so we can get the racist numbers up and justify this stupid culture slash economy of self-deprecation and ethnomasochism.
Take it away, racist.
Hi, my name is Ron.
Hi, Ron.
I'm a racist.
Having once is a 12-step program.
Help all of us.
Let's get over our races.
Can you just pause it here?
You know those are the least racist people in the world.
Like that guy.
He'd have sex with a black man if it wouldn't offend him.
Like these people are hyperbolic examples of non-racists.
But wouldn't it be hilarious if he was?
Hi, my name's Ron and I'm a racist.
White people make me sick to my stomach.
I'll just punch them in the face.
If I see them on the train, they make me puke.
I have a dartboard at home that I just put random pictures of white people on.
I whip darts at it and I can't get over it.
Now that would be worth watching.
But that doesn't exist.
That's why it made me giggle.
All right, go ahead.
It starts with the assumption that we're all of the racist.
I grew up in the world.
I feel like an irrelevant, but that's no guarantee that there's not going to be racism.
About my third meeting, what I realized is that I'm a racist against myself.
So, for me, I'm going to be talking.
That's from California.
And I heard people talking about the business.
So hold on a few.
Just stop it.
So when she walks into her home and she sees herself in the mirror, she goes, look at this bold black bitch.
Look what the cat dragged in.
She's racist against herself.
What the hell are you lunatics talking about?
You're not racist.
The question here is, why do you want to be?
What's that thing?
Mesopotamia, there's that thing where you give yourself an illness because you want to be a victim so bad and you make yourself...
It's a real mentally induced illness.
That's what these people have.
They want to be part of this racism campaign so bad that this guy who grew up with black people goes, that's no excuse.
I've even heard, I'm married to a non-white, and I've heard people say that doesn't mean anything.
You know, Massa loves chocolate, meaning slave owners like to have sex with their slaves.
So now my wife is a slave and I'm raping her every day.
That's how far they have to go to justify this absurd worldview.
Now, Asian drivers, okay, can you give me unequivocal evidence that they're perfect drivers?
I'm not saying they are good or bad drivers.
I'm saying when you discuss a stereotype, let's not just totally accept that it's not true.
It may have some truth to it.
I don't know.
I'm just throwing it out there.
Go ahead.
Look at his face, too, when he notices that he has trouble with Asian drivers.
Go ahead.
And I found myself looking for Asian drivers when something crazy would happen.
That's racism.
No, it's not.
Stop, stop, stop.
That is someone being curious if a pattern exists.
And again, when you meet an Asian, you don't assume he's a bad driver, but you're allowed to wonder.
Remember Clivin Bundy?
He dared to wonder if this guy in jail and this woman on a porch with eight kids and on welfare.
He wondered if they might have been better off during slavery.
He's wrong, by the way.
You're never better off as a slave, but he wondered it, and that was the end of Clivin Bundy.
No wondering around.
Our meeting is an Indian, a couple black people.
Yeah, sounds real racist.
This is pathetic.
This is what I don't get about this whole thing, too, is Why do you want there to be racism?
Like, why are you putting yourself under a microscope and saying, I'm racist against myself?
Or I noticed some Asian people in a car.
I'm a racist and I have to go to a seminar.
That's the part I don't get, is the impetus for this.
But go ahead.
And we're all so racist.
Black people, white people, a couple types of Asians, an observant Jew, an Arabic person who's come to this meeting.
And I think it has enriched our disciples.
Are these people coming to confess or they're doing a seminar?
With different backgrounds and experiences.
In my whole life, I never had a black teacher.
So?
Never had a black doctor.
Some of us have internalized racism.
Wait a minute.
You're in trouble now if you haven't had a black doctor.
Tax all kinds of relationships.
It impacts the way people get paid, where they get to live.
This group helps people have conversations about those kinds of things.
We so often have.
Have you ever heard of a bar?
Why is it so hard to have a conversation?
Why does the left keep talking about we need a conversation?
Let's have a conversation about this.
Go to a bar and sit down with your friend.
I've had enough of these therapists and people going online and starting chat groups.
Just go out and sit down with your friend and say, I've never had a black doctor.
Is that weird?
Have you ever had a black doctor?
This is bizarre.
Why are we treating social interaction like it's some sort of illness or some sort of treatment for addiction?
Just being a normal person.
Go ahead.
I'm almost done with this crap.
Opportunities to speak with people candidly.
You don't?
It's just the death of pub culture.
It's a lot of easier in meeting people from very different backgrounds and each time feeling how deeply similar and fundamentally related I am.
I almost read fundamentally retarded.
Oh my God.
I've had enough of this.
It's called church.
It's called going to bars.
It's called community.
It's called having a family.
It's called being involved in your community and knowing the local bartender and knowing your pastor and talking to people outside the church after church.
You guys are just synthesizing the wonderful communities we've had for decades upon decades.
And now, after destroying it, you're wondering how to bring back all the good.
You want the crunchy without the smooth.
Well, the crunchy and the smooth were both delicious.
Why did you wreck society when you don't have anything half decent to replace it?
Instructor arrested for attacking conservative students.
A University of Illinois graduate instructor was arrested for assaulting two students during an anti-Trump protest Thursday, stealing the phone of one student and throwing it on the sidewalk.
Tariq Khan, very sort of a Sikh sounding name, charged the students in a rage after one of them mocked the 39-year-old by asking, don't you have anything better to do?
Don't you have kids?
After accusing the students of threatening his children, Khan chased after one of them, stealing his phone and hurling it to the sidewalk, which is, I believe, criminal damage of property.
Look at this guy.
So this guy, this teacher, has got a long history of working with Antifa.
There he is with their little anarchist cat.
I used to wear that cat on my shirts when I was a teenager.
There he is with some Muslim woman and a blowhorn.
He's got the anti-fascist thing.
Look, I have no problem with radicals.
They should exist.
I was one.
They're an integral part of society.
But now they are a society.
They have become mainstream.
These are professors at school.
And remember I talked about this in the four types of Antifa?
I said there's the academics.
Well, here are the academics.
And they're physically attacking conservative students.
They are in Antifa.
They're not sympathetic to Antifa.
They are it.
That's Tariq Khan right there.
I didn't hear a threat.
Not so tough anymore.
You listen to it.
What did I say?
What did I say there was a threat?
He didn't hear a threat.
Yeah, you better check yourself, okay?
Check yourself.
I'll f*** you up if you, if you...
So there he is stealing his phone.
Call the cops.
Again, this is not just two students having a fight near a bar.
This is part of the faculty attacking conservative students for being pro-Trump.
Do you want to send your kids to this school?
Does it sound like a good place for someone to learn?
Call the cops.
Somebody call the cops.
Call the cops.
They don't care about the death of Brownleeve.
They care about the death of Brownleeve.
Now, I'm from the...
I'm a child of the 70s, so I prefer it if people just fight and don't call the cops and don't record everything.
But this is a college campus, and sometimes you've got to play by the rules if you want something effective to be done.
And I learned that from talking to the two students that he attacked.
Let's let you talk to them now.
Ladies and gentlemen, Joel Valdez listed here as executive board member and campus activism coordinator at TPUSA.
That's not toilet paper USA.
That's Turning Point USA.
And his buddy, Blair Nelson.
What's going on?
Hi, guys.
Blair, are you a member of Turning Point USA or just a buddy of Joel's?
I am a member of Turning Point USA, yes.
Wonderful.
Now, college Republicans, that subject, that thing, would strike boredom in the ears of most people, say, five years ago.
But it's become like being in a gang.
I mean, on this show, I must have had a dozen college Republicans who have been spat on, punched, screamed at when they walk down the halls.
They yell Nazi.
If my kids are conservative, I don't think I want them to go to college.
It's dangerous.
Joel.
It's actually been getting worse and worse and worse here at the University of Illinois.
So just recently, what happened yesterday.
Thursday was this guy Tariq Khan we were at this anti-Trump protest which was hosted by these student socialists yeah we just watched the video okay so what what had happened was because Turning Point USA were all about civil discourse on campus, we wanted to go and hear what they actually had to say.
And at one point, Tariq, who was speaking at the statue, he started yelling at us, he was pointing at us, he was getting pretty violent to the point where he was saying, f you, to these 15 protesters, calling us white supremacists.
And so I told him back, I was like, don't you have anything better to do?
I was like, don't you have kids to take care of?
He's a 50-year-old looking guy with two kids at an anti-Trump protest with not that many people there.
So I wasn't sure.
And that is a very good point, by the way.
Like, I have three kids, and I'm constantly thinking and evaluating everything I do, going, I could be at home right now.
That's kids stuff, his protests.
That's how I told him.
I was like, I don't know if that's the best use of your time.
And at that point, he got crazy.
He thought that I was threatening his kids.
And I don't actually believe that he thought I was threatening his kids.
He just wanted to come up to fight.
Right.
And then he could tell the police that I was just defending my children.
Exactly.
Well, Blair, why did you not punch him in the face?
I don't know.
That's not the thought that went through my head at the time.
I was definitely more worried about getting the recording.
I guess I'm just a calm guy.
You're just a sweetie.
Yes.
Well, Joe, you're not a sweetie.
You're from the south side of Chicago, where there's something like two murders a day.
You've got more murders than New York, and you're, I don't know, a third of the size.
Yeah, well, at Turning Point USA, we believe in civil and reasonable discourse.
So time and time again, we are seeing that far-left professors, employees, and students don't want to engage in the discourse.
But again, what do you think the response would have been if I fought back?
The leftists on campus and liberal media would have spun it entirely against me in Turning Point USA.
It would have given them another excuse to smear conservatives nationwide, push their left-wing indoctrination in the campuses, on the classrooms, where hardworking taxpayers and donors are putting their money.
Yeah, you're right.
This isn't the streets.
This was just you guys on college, and you have to sort of go by the books, especially when he's a professor.
Well, the good news about not fighting him is he's facing felony charges, right, Joel?
Yeah, he is.
Tree Khan has actually had a long and well-documented history of working with anarchists and communist groups like Antifa, Black Rose, Students for Justice in Palestine, and the Student Socialists.
So we're calling for the University of Illinois to launch an investigation into the actions and history of TreeCon.
It's amazing, Blair, how mainstream Antifa has become in academia.
I mean, I think that these academics, these professors, and we've had them on Tucker Carlson, that guy with the Pez neck, forget his name, Michael something.
And Yvette Falarka, you know, all these people are teachers and they're well positioned in education.
And I think it's so they can spread their Marxist propaganda.
Like, this guy's a radical.
And he's teaching it yourself.
So it gets to the point where you think, I'm going to radical school.
Multiple students who have taken Khan's course and who tell us in secret that he spews radical leftist propaganda in the classroom.
And if you go along with what he says, you're more likely to get a good grade.
Well, the actual titles of the courses he teaches are radical.
It'll say like race and gender in a colonialist America or something like that.
And you could just, just by the title, you go, well, I know while this class is going.
Exactly.
So not only is it getting bad for conservatives to be on campus, but it's also getting bad for the actual colleges because it's bad business.
Missouri lost $6 million last year.
They had $1,000 less applicants.
Their sports programs are almost shut down, lost hundreds of thousands in just sports alone.
This is going to hurt your school.
Yeah, the University of Illinois actually recently got a $150 million donation, which is the largest in their history.
So it would be a major PR disaster for the University of Illinois.
So this is exactly why they're staying silent.
Wow.
Well, it can't last.
This can't go on.
It has to culminate.
It's some sort of peak here.
Like you guys are on your campus.
A professor starts berating you for supporting Trump.
And then when you say, don't you have anything better to do, he what?
He grabs your phone and smashes it and starts screaming at you and hitting you?
That's insane.
It is insane.
Well, he doesn't know who he's messing with because you've seen people shot, Joel.
You lived in a gang neighborhood.
Yes, going to the corner stores, going to school on the bus, fights daily, gunshots every weekend.
It has become the new normal in the south side of Chicago.
So you're used to abuse.
Not abuse towards me, but seeing abuse in the neighborhood, definitely.
Well, you know what I find hilarious about you in particular is how the left purports to be about equality and fighting racism.
And then as soon as they find out you're conservative, it's you're a spick and you need to go back to where you came.
Like you get insults like that, right?
Yeah, exactly.
We hosted Charlie Kirk at the University of Illinois recently in October.
And he started the same group, the socialist students, the International Socialist Organization, whatever they want to call themselves.
They came, they were protesting.
As soon as I went into the belly of the beast, they told me I was a wetback.
I was a token to the all-right.
They told me to go back to where I came from.
I was like, I thought you guys were all about diversity and inclusivity.
I believe it is absolutely hypocritical of these groups to claim that the foundation of their organizations are based on inclusivity.
Where's the inclusivity for conservative voices?
Inclusivity for those that only you agree with isn't inclusivity at all.
No, and you hear this, you hear this the way they talk about Michelle Malk and they say things that I can't repeat on this show or Ann Coulter.
This just really deep-seated vital.
I remember I was having lunch with Anthony Bourdain because we were working on a show on the same network.
And he was talking about Sarah Palin and he said, I'd love to just cut her skin off with a razor blade.
And I thought, Like my worst enemies, I don't get into skin removal.
I get into maybe a bop on the nose or something.
Blair, do you feel safe when you walk down the hallways of your school?
No, definitely not.
Well, I mean, right now, not a lot of people know who I am in my face.
They know my name.
That just changed?
Yes, it did.
Different story about why people know my name.
Blair is notorious for posting some very offensive memes that the left would not like.
So he's been, there's this part of the University of Illinois called the Bias and Assessment Response Team that looks into offensive memes.
Anything offensive to students that would get their feelings hurt, they report them and they have them come to the office.
They intimidate them.
It's really anything that the left finds offensive, they can be reported and intimidated, or conservatives can be intimidated on campus.
Oh, maybe we have a problem with the feed here.
I didn't know that we were interviewing two students in Russia.
I thought this was two American students.
Guys, best of luck over there.
The weather must be freezing cold this time of year over there in Vladivostok.
You should come to America at some point.
It's total freedom here.
And on college campus, you just go there and learn.
No one attacks you.
And you come out way smarter than when you went in.
And there's no Marxists anywhere.
It's heaven.
It sounds amazing.
You would love it here.
All right, guys, thanks for coming on the show.
I like you both more than a friend.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
Hi, everybody.
My name is Stephen McCarthy.
I would describe myself as an average American in that I don't really know a lot about other countries and also I don't really care.
But I figured it's about time I should start learning.
So I decided to travel to the most foreign place I can find, New York's Times Square.
Let's go check it out.
What's your least favorite thing about Ireland?
To be honest, I do not like our coffee.
You have bad coffee in Ireland.
No, it's not really bad.
I just don't like it because when you come to America where their coffee tastes and then you go to Ireland and you take two sips and you're drunk, it's, you know...
Yeah, me, Pakistan.
Pakistan?
You don't like Pakistan?
Yeah, go.
Yeah, go to America.
Go to Pakistan.
Yeah, America is great.
What is your favorite thing about America?
America?
I don't know.
It's just cooler here, right?
like an awesome, awesome country, right.
Well, you heard it here first.
Hey, so I found an Italian immigrant here.
We're going to talk to him.
Hey, how long have you been in America for?
Oh, how long?
For 20 years.
I live in New York, yeah.
Did you come for the plumbing opportunities?
Yeah, yeah.
There's a lot of opportunity for Luigi here in New York.
You mean the French people?
I mean, they are not smiling, they are not welcoming.
Oh, they're mean.
They're mean in France.
Not mean, but they are.
They're cold, right?
They are cold.
Okay.
Charto.
What does that mean?
Hello.
What is your favorite thing about America?
Petriism.
That's right.
Thank you.
So I talked to a lot of people today, and I think the thing that I learned is that Americans tend to be cooler, other countries aren't so good.
And learning about other cultures is for other cultures.
Back to you, Gavin.
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