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Nov. 20, 2017 - Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes
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Live from New York, it's Get Off My Lawn with Gavin McInnes.
That was...
What's that one called?
God, I love that jam.
Ready for it.
Ready for it.
Are you ready for it?
Boom, boom, boom.
Country music star doing Electro Clash super pop.
What do we got here?
Douche Vinci?
Leonardo da Vinci sold a picture of my old hash dealer for $450 million.
I hope he doesn't spend it all in one place.
Come on, Lenny.
You know how those Italians are when they get nouveau riche.
Today is the goofing with the gals episode.
Choked on my own phlegm there.
And we're going to talk about Taylor Swift a lot with Tiana Lowe.
Now, Tiana's a very intelligent young lady.
She's actually a mathematician, but she's pretty, and I want to just make it fun.
So I hope I'm not trivializing her IQ by talking to her exclusively about Taylor today.
And there is a sort of a news angle here.
We can't appreciate her.
We can't appreciate that she's freakishly gifted, this artist.
And she's been accused of being alt-right because alt-right guys seem to like her.
And she's been chastised for not supporting Hillary enough and not being political enough.
Like she's in trouble for what she didn't do.
And Jim Norton said that a long time ago to me once.
He said, the way the liberals' mind is, is you're either 100% with them or 100% against them.
So if you're not on board, then you're a Nazi.
You're the worst.
We'll also talk, speaking of Nazis, to Faith Goldie.
Equally hot, I'd say.
They're both over eight.
And I'm going to talk to her about how she could be the new Maggie Thatcher of Canada.
And I'm going to give her career advice and we'll see if she either takes it or can explain to me why I'm wrong.
I have a feeling it will be the latter because she may actually be smarter than me, which is shocking.
As a sexist, I find that pretty hard to take.
But without further to-do, as people who don't understand colloquialisms like to say, let's get started with the Goofing with the Gals episode.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
I also started a new show today, Rick Shapiro.
I'm going to go to his diner every day and have onion rings with him and hear him talk his brilliant psychobabble that sounds like mumbling because his Parkinson's is so bad.
But when you actually parse it and listen closely, you realize there's the same old Rick Shapiro genius inside of there.
Hi, Toots.
Let's talk about Faith Goldie for a second, shall we?
I used to work with her at Rebel.
She was recently fired for speaking to an alt-right podcast down in Charlottesville where she was reporting.
And I'm going to talk to her today about revoking that firing because I don't think it was...
And I just want her record to be cleaner.
You know what I mean?
Because I think she's going to be prime minister one day.
I think that she has the intelligence and the strength to lead Canada.
Not tomorrow, although Justin Trudeau is doing it way too soon.
Why not her?
But, you know, in maybe 10 years, 15 years, I really think she could be the Thatcher of Canada.
And mostly because she recognizes that Christianity is the backbone of Western civilization.
You know, before 9-11, we had this pattern here where, and it's still prevalent, but Christians were about a third of the population and Muslims, sorry, two-thirds and Muslims were about a third, or whatever the exact numbers are.
I'm not smart.
But as the Christianity was coming down with babies and demographics and everything, the Islam was coming up.
And we're headed to a situation where that's reversed.
That's bad.
And it's not just bad for Christians.
It's bad for the world.
We make better leaders.
We should be the majority.
So to support the West, whether you're an atheist or not, by the way, is to be on a crusade.
And those two are inseparable.
So I did this talk with Faith, and it was in Canada.
It was a free speech thing.
And I got up and I did a funny little chat.
And Jordan Peterson, he got up and spoke.
Geez, Louise.
Love the guy.
But he spoke for what seemed like an hour about the origins of good and what defines good ethically.
And he used rats as an example.
It was fascinating and mind-blowing, but it didn't exactly have the audience in hysterics.
It was just like a very good university lecture.
Then faith comes on.
And I don't want to oversell this, but I just watched it and I just thought, this person is an inspiration.
I mean, and that word is overused.
She's inspiring.
She makes me feel like I want to put on an armor and run outside going, she's an incredible person.
And, you know, this is especially compelling when you're at a public speaking thing where you're nervous and people just tend to read.
Half the time you see someone who seems dynamic on stage, they're just a good actor reading a teleprompter.
But not Faith.
Faith goes out there with her personality and blows everyone away.
So here are some highlights from the speech I'm talking about.
And tell me, this is not an infectious love of the West.
I'm going to drop the C-bomb before we get started because I'm sure that's what the New York Times would like to hear.
Am I going to call for a crusade?
You're damn right.
Doesn't he think that she's incredibly human?
Miss, in the event any of the journalists don't feel like pulling out their dictionary, I'll just let you know.
To crusade is a verb, and it means to be engaged in an energetic and organized campaign, not just military.
Although I'll say, hey, if you're a Christian and you want to take up arms and help in the fight against ASIS, you do it, baby.
She was getting everything so pumped, too.
People were sitting in and drinking coffee, and the energy totally changed after this.
As well as the radical left have already launched crusades.
And I am extremely interested in launching a counter-crusade.
Thank you very much.
I'm not afraid to say it.
So often we're told, love your You know how after Trump was elected, you're walking down the street and you sort of go, I can't believe Trump is president.
I can't believe it.
And like it made the trees better.
It made the streets better.
The mailbox seemed like more blue.
Everything just seemed like a higher quality.
And that's how I think you would feel in Canada if Faith was prime minister.
You'd just be walking down the street going, we're on a crusade.
Christianity is safe under her.
We're not going to be getting floods of refugees permanently altering the demographics of the country.
We're going to get our country back.
We're going to make Canada great again.
Your neighbor like yourself as a reason to take in refugees, as a reason to open up your backyard, as a reason for self-sacrificial love, as a reason to put your neighbor before yourself.
But you'll understand, as a Christian, reading this, love your neighbor as yourself.
God commands us to love ourselves as well.
And right now, we have failed within the body of Christ.
We absolutely have.
We have not been looking after our brothers and sisters the world over.
There is a genocide of Christians occurring right now in the Middle East, and no one is talking about it.
322 Christians are killed for their faith.
214 churches and Christian properties are destroyed.
722.
And by the way, Faith Goldie goes to these places.
She goes to northern Iraq.
She's there on the ground at these places, working with these people, going to these abandoned churches, doing news bits, shooting videos in churches where there's a bullet hole through a Bible.
Hey, SJWs, hey, liberals, do you have a tenth, a hundredth, a thousandth of that conviction for your beliefs?
No, you don't.
Two, forces of violence are committed against Christians.
And I know that these are all very conservative estimates.
That includes beatings, rapes, and abductions.
I'm sorry.
A woman and a hijab can be yelled at and we hear about it for one whole week, maybe longer.
People are literally being slaughtered and no one will talk about it in the media or in our politics.
215 million Christians, that's 10% of our global population of Christians worldwide, are socially disadvantaged, harassed, actively oppressed, or even killed for their beliefs.
You think about that.
Think about your own congregation.
One in 10 of you would be persecuted if you lived somewhere else.
I mean, this goes on and on.
You look it up yourself.
Faith Goldie at the Rebel Live.
It's Crusade O'Clock.
I mean, I was at the birthplace of Jesus Christ with her.
And she said, she really ramps up the hoser when she's smoking some darts and having some brews.
And she goes, I'm coming here, eh?
I'm going to come here because it is totally taken over by Muslims.
It is a Muslim area.
They're having the call to prayer there.
You wouldn't know Jesus was born at this Nativity church.
This is in Bethlehem.
She goes, I'm going to come back here, eh?
I'm going to come back here with my husband and just start breeding, breeding, breeding.
And then I'll bring my friends and they'll start breeding.
We're going to take this back with babies.
Let's take it back with babies.
Then we joked that there'd be a giant statue of Faith Goldie wearing her lumberjack jacket and her baseball hat with moles and golden and with a dart in her hand and a Lebatz blue.
Huge shrine.
It was fun.
Let's talk to her right now.
Let me get her on the old telly here.
Faith?
Five mutual contacts?
That's got to be her.
Let's give her a little Mr. Bojangles, shall we?
It's ringing.
Faith Goldie!
Gavin McInnes.
Now, we were just watching your speech at Rebel where you sort of switched in my mind.
I always admired you, but after that speech, I thought this woman is going to become prime minister.
That's nice.
Thank you.
I appreciate you saying that.
I don't know how many people would vote for me.
It'd be like a Donald Trump closeted vote where no one, I would be like, the other candidate's 98% ahead in the polls the day before.
Like, whoa, holy smokes.
There are a lot of kicked off people in this country.
We had no idea.
Yeah, that's exactly what it will be.
But here's the problem now.
So you've got your reputation marred with this rebel thing because of Charlottesville, blah, blah, blah.
Let's just recap for everyone.
So you went down there as a reporter, but you spoke to an alt-right podcast.
And I think your boss Ezra thought you were a little too relaxed.
And it looked bad for the brand.
So you're out of there.
So here's my idea.
I think Ezra would be happy to have you back.
So what you do is you sit in a room with him like Charlie Rose style, right?
And you have like an hour and a half long discussion where it's clear, because you both have the same politics at the end of the day.
We were in Israel together.
We're both basically Zionists, right?
I argue for the one state solution.
We're all household names in Israel.
That's why I find the anti-Semitist, anti-Semitism card hilarious, because I'm like, guys, like I am more pro-Israel.
We both fell in love with the wall.
I'm like, Israel gets demographics.
That's why they're not naturalizing millions of Arabs in the West Bank because they don't want the Knesset to be like a giant Muslim Arabic, you know, house of parliament, so to speak.
I'm like, yes, I'm for it.
I believe in their self-determination, but that's not enough.
I was at the point where I wanted to become a Nazi skinhead there, but for Israel.
So I would like be beating up Palestinians and stuff with my boots, but I'd have the Star of David.
But anyway, so you sit with him for an hour, then you get your job back at Rebel, but it doesn't matter for how long.
It could be like six months, one month.
And now the history books say, Faith Goldie, when you're running for prime minister in 10 years, the history books say, blah, blah, blah, Faith Goldie, misunderstanding about a rally, but it was worked out she was back at the rebel.
And so now the story in the history books is when there's a problem, she goes in and fixes it.
This is what she's going to do to the Canadian economy here in the year 2029.
I think you give too much credit to the media to be in any way generous of just my own career and my own abilities.
And I'll say this to you.
I know that Ezra would be happy to have me back, and I appreciate you having me on your show to give me bloody career and life advice, Kevin.
God love you, bud.
So here's the thing.
Ezra and I, I mean, I still have a huge amount of respect for him.
You know, I still consider his whole family part of my friends, frankly.
And most of the folks at the Rebel, I still keep in regular contact with.
There was no need for us to assign an NDA at the end of it because Ezra knows that I'm not going to go, you know, saying bad things about him because especially in this country, he's the only guy in the game when it comes to, you know, speaking right-wing common sense in the media sphere.
So I get all of that.
But to be completely honest, since we are airing my personal and professional and political laundry on your program, thanks very much.
I'm sorry.
I'm trying to promote you.
I want you to take over the world.
I want you to save the West.
But like through election, right?
So here's the thing.
With respect to going forward with Ezra, first of all, I've never ever done anything for the sake of how I am perceived by another.
I've been in this game since I was 19 years old.
So I've been called a homophobe, a transphobe, Islamophobe.
Now it's racist and white supremacist and anti-Semite.
My record speaks for itself that I'm none of those things, but none of that matters.
For me, all of those labels are just a code word for heretic in the modern world.
And I'm happy to be called a heretic in the modern world.
That's part of my calling as a Christian and indeed as a, you know, a common sense conservative in this tide of just sinister backwardsness.
And on top of that, from a very, so I wouldn't go there just so that way the press would be in some way allieved by it.
Well, they thought that she was a Nazi, but now it's all good because she got taken back.
And the second thing, and this is more of a personal note, if Ezra's watching this, I'm sure he'd feel the same way, to be frank.
Going back to Ezra, now, Ezra and I had an amazing, amazing professional relationship where he was very much like a, he was a free speech hero in my eyes.
This was a guy who, you know, first published the Muhammad cartoons here in Canada.
And that's how he first got on my radar when I was probably a university student.
And so I always had him on this kind of pedestal.
And then I got to work for him.
And he mentored me in many, many ways.
And I think that myself using my free speech and then getting burned for it when I was in the role of guest on a show, not host.
It wasn't my job to launch an inquisition against the crypto report.
It was my job to report on Charlottesville, which is what I did.
And yeah, I did it differently than everyone else because I pointed to the fact that some people weren't allowed to use the First Amendment rights, despite even having a court order to go forward and do just that.
But I think that whole topic honestly has been beaten dead in the media.
So here I am, you know, everyone, the whole world, every day, my Google alerts are popping up with Faith Goldie's a neo-Nazi international headlines.
And someone who I loved and respected and continued to, and held up on this pedestal, in a way, you know, he, I suppose, at least from a bird's eye view, agreed with them.
And so it would be now if we were to go back together, working together, it would be almost like going back to this from a personal standpoint, and this is not a slate against Azure.
I'm just being honest as to why I've not accepted any sort of overtures to go back there.
It would be like going back to a boyfriend who cheated on you.
That's what it feels like.
The relationship will never be the same.
We get all the juicy goths on this show.
Well, it just, it just, no, the relationship would never be the same.
I'd always, and I think it would go both ways.
He'd probably have a leering eye out for me.
What's faith going to do?
How is it going to be perceived?
And I need to have ultimate editorial discretion when I do my job the way that I want to.
It's the only way that I can be myself and be honest with my audience and responsible with the subjects that I cover.
And I, on the other hand, would feel like, like, I don't know.
I don't know.
It's a different, you know, you know, thank God for my Christianity because it's offered me a lot of white pills, so to speak, along this.
But a giant black pill was this idea, frankly, of corporatism.
I lost a lot of my gigs in the sleigh ride that ensued.
You just had that free speech thing with Gad Sad and Jordan Peterson got messed up because of this fake reputation.
And what did they all say?
These are guys who have talked to me.
They all said it was pragmatism, not principle.
And that was the black pill, because I thought we were all in this together.
I thought we were all for the freedom and the West and our heritage and our future and keeping all of this nonsense like jihad creep, et cetera, outside of our countries and being able to at least air all of this in public.
And then they were like, but hold on a second.
We think this lady talked to someone who we don't like.
Therefore, she's not allowed to participate.
The book Death of the West by Pat Buchanan changed my life and I read 200 fun.
2001.
Right.
200 fun when the World Trade Center totally partied its ass off.
Oh, I disavow.
So I read it.
I do that now and interviews.
I disavow now and interview.
Disavow.
Disavow.
I don't think it was good that the World Trade Center collapsed.
I think that was two thumbs down.
Now, what was amazing about that book, and I had sort of strayed from it, was Buchanan was basically saying, look, Christianity is the core of the West.
Now, I understand you want to be atheist.
Maybe you're Muslim.
Maybe you're something else.
Please recognize that as in Japan, whatever religion they have over there is their core.
This is our core.
So if you're not going to worship God, our God, at least revere that this is the core.
And without it, everything else, it's the errant thread that unravels the whole sweater.
And when you did that speech in Rebel, I realized I had sort of forgotten that.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Well, from my own vantage point, and then, well, first of all, let's start off with Pop Buchanan's book, Death of the West.
It was fantastic.
And it was, you know, really the central idea is that, you know, great civilizations commit suicide as opposed to being murdered.
And he brings up in chapter two.
So the first one I think was about immigration, which is very important.
And the second one was about Christianity.
And it was this idea of basically Western European and indeed North American countries have been kind of these torchbearers of Christianity.
And when America has traditionally voted in a Christian way and had Christian people there, things have run better.
It has created a moral consensus.
So this, even when we bring people into our country, the only way immigration is going to work is if we have assimilation.
So the question becomes, who are we bringing in?
Are they easy to assimilate?
Like, are they a bunch of, you know, voodoo worshiping Zulus?
Or are there some, you know, I don't know, like Anglicans who can get behind, you know, what we're doing here?
They got the Magna Carta, we got the Constitution.
If they have to be Middle Eastern, let's take in some Iraqi Christians.
Let's take in some Coptic Christians.
Yeah, please, because they're sort of being genocided right now.
And what I found most compelling about his book is that it kind of leads you to the sense is that what the West needs is not so much a Donald Trump or a Ronald Reagan, but indeed a St. Paul, because the crisis in America is such that it's not based on a political, social, economic grounds, but it's really a moral one.
And so following up to that assimilation questions, who are we bringing in?
Can they assimilate?
And number two is what are they assimilating to?
And ever since you look at the revolutions, two of the biggest ones that have really torn away the Christian patriotic framework of America, you look at the sexual revolution that was largely anti-church and anti-God, and then you look at the anti-war revolution, so to speak, and that was really anti-America.
And both of those things have really led to the undoing of the American social, moral, civic consensus.
And what I was talking about in that particular speech that you cited that was, I mean, I was shocked at the reception that I got because I was like, okay, we're talking about the persecution of Christians.
Everyone take a nap, sort of a thing.
And then I brought it into basically how there's this bifurcated attack against Christianity.
And number one is against Islam.
There's a European caliphate that's essentially come to fruition.
I think Europe is, at least when you look at its major cities, basically done for.
Like it almost seems like it's too late.
But there's so much to salvage over here.
And the second thing is these cultural Marxists who have had decades of planning going into what they want to do essentially is create chaos so that way they can make an ordering force through larger government.
And so the way that they create chaos is by breaking down the most stabilizing, moralizing factors within our society.
And there are two.
Number one, the family.
Number two, the church.
And so from a very personal vantage point, the reason why there's such a symbiotic relationship between Western civilization and Christianity is because, of course, all of our forefathers were indeed inspired by the good book.
They were all holy men.
And you look at it.
It's personal responsibility.
That's what this, it's not just freedom.
It's personal responsibility.
If you screw up, you're going to have to wear it.
It is freedom.
It's freedom of opportunity.
God doesn't put in the stars the fact that you have to believe in him.
The same way, you know, you can try hard.
You know, you've got freedom.
You've got equality before God as well.
And you've got equality of opportunity here in North America where you manifest destiny and the rest of it.
So all of these sort of work.
So when you bring in people who come from a culture that their name is literally submission, it doesn't jive with our mentality.
And if we think that the full replacement of our European and Western civilized populace, like it's not in the soil, right?
Like it's not like Britain was a civilized place because this island had some sort of magical powers, right?
It's in the people.
Which is to say, if you took all of Japan, a very homogenous, you know, certain way of life people, and you took all of Mexico, also a very homogenous certain way of life people, and if you just transplanted them, it's not like the folks, the Mexicans waking up in Tokyo are like, what the hell I say?
I love sushi now.
Like they're not going to be doing that, right?
Like it's the people.
And if we think that people who are now coming to these countries are going to be the same sort of torch bearers without any sort of especially moral authority compelling them to do that, the torch bearers of the things that we believe in, we're kidding ourselves.
And indeed, we will do what Pat Buchanan alluded to in his seminal text, and that is our civilization will and indeed is committing suicide.
You see what I'm screaming, folks at home?
This isn't just a journalist.
This is a world leader.
And it doesn't hurt that she's an 8.97.
You get the best of Melania and Donald.
You get that.
She's easy on the eyes and the ears.
That's both polls.
Oh, man.
I was an 8.5 a couple weeks, a little, a couple months ago when you last rated me.
You liked the longer home.
Oh, yeah.
Well, this, I don't know, maybe it's pink, but you really are shooting through the roof.
I feel sorry for 10 because you're coming in on it like a stampede.
Faith, thanks for coming on the show.
Unfortunately, we're out of time, but we have to have you back because I feel like we've only barely scratched the surface of this.
I love it.
Thank you for having me on, Gavin.
Congratulations, new program here.
You're hitting out of the park.
Are you ready for it?
Kiana, hi.
Hi.
What's your favorite Taylor Swift song?
Ooh, that new one, I Did Something Bad, just listened to that on a run.
That was fantastic.
Oh, what about Look What You Made Me Do?
Is that old or new?
No, that was the first single that dropped on this album.
This album is a killer.
It's so good.
Okay, I know this is a very unpopular opinion, but it is so unabashedly amazing.
And the video.
Have you seen Look What You Made Me Do?
Hold on, let me click on it here.
Look what you just made me do.
I know she's got her buddies there.
Oh, yeah, she's everyone in the video.
She's so unbelievably talented.
Stop making that surprise face.
You see the end of Look What You Made Me Do where she's all these different characters?
What's with that end?
I mean, that's like trollery of the highest form.
I don't know.
To be like self-aware enough to know how to make fun of how everyone already makes fun of you.
Yeah.
That's some good stuff.
Well, what's unique about her is you go, oh, whatever.
You're some pretty girl or some Old fat bald guy writes all your songs, and then you start looking it up, and it seems like she wrote every song.
Yeah, it's always like her, Max Martin, and Jack Antonoff.
No, I mean, like, she writes all of her own songs, which is why, like, even if you could say there's nothing terribly complex or innovative, which I don't think you can say that much anymore, like in the past, when she was really more just like basic, like, country pop star or whatever, the fact that she was 17 years old writing all of her own stuff, I mean, that's impressive.
It is, it's so rare.
It really is.
I mean, Katy Perry doesn't write any of her own stuff, you know?
I mean, I've heard that she can't even read sheet music.
She has, you know, like, so it's not like she's like playing her own guitars in like her shows.
And, like, mind you, I'm not saying like Taylor Swift is the greatest songwriter of all time.
Like, I think, like, like there are people who are more of like a jack of all trades, like Beck or whatever.
But the fact that she's been able to, I mean, what, this is her fourth album that sold over a million copies in a week.
And here's the other thing, too.
Every time you look her up, like, say you go, Taylor Swift top tracks.
If the article is, say, like five or six years old, that's a totally different Taylor Swift.
And you'll get all these country jams, like this one.
Yeah.
It's easy to forget that she's only like 27 or 28.
Like, she was huge when I was in, like, elementary school.
Yeah, she's and and that was around that we're never getting back together.
That was a killer jam.
So there's some sort of resentment, though.
Like, instead of going with Beyonce, they go, she's a goddess.
She doesn't write her own songs.
If you criticize her, it could end your career.
And you look at her lyrics, they're terrible.
But with Taylor Strift, they go, all right, I need to find something wrong with her.
So they say, she could have been more political when Hillary was running.
Okay, so I think, all right, now you're really going to get me going.
Okay, let's look at every brand that has chosen to politicize over the last two years.
You have the Hannity fans smashing their own Keurig machines.
You have everyone on the left waging the most pointless boycotts against like Chick-fil-A.
Papa Johns is now racist pizza.
Okay, so the reason why Trump can afford to do these sorts of like culture warrior stunts is because realistically his approval rating isn't that high.
So if he can just divide half the country, this is a point that Rich Lowry made at Politico.
If he can divide the country to make a 50-50 issue while he's like 60 points underwater in approval rating, that's a win for him.
If you are a brand trying to gain widespread popularity in America, you can't just alienate half the country.
You can't just call half the country deplorables.
It's not your job.
Not everything has to be political.
Stop politicizing pop music for little girls.
And okay, mind you, like, I think that there is a time and there is a place.
I think that when Kendrick Lamar raps about growing up in Compton with gang violence, I don't think it's completely unwarranted for that to have like a tinge or like an undertone of policy or an undertone of politics.
Like I understand, like I'm not going to say that no music should involve politics because obviously it's inherent.
But the insane amount of virtue signaling you see from someone like Katie Perry, like what has she done for women's empowerment?
She sat with D-Ray Mackinson cross-legged and said that she's woke now because she cut her hair short.
Yeah, no, I mean it basically went from how did she get famous?
She got famous by, I mean, if we want to get really woke here, she got famous by appropriating lesbian culture, being BHC, you know, like taking her top off.
And then when the whole sex appeal stopped working for her because she turned 30, she like is now all, you know, woke.
Oh, girl, the claws are out.
Rare.
And then with Taylor Swift.
In the middle of the night.
I mean, yeah, then also with Taylor Swift, they said, all right, the alt-right seems to like her.
They photoshopped her in Nazi stuff.
Therefore, Taylor Swift is to blame.
Like, you're culpable for all your fans' behavior now.
Why can't they let a freakishly talented pop singer for young girls be a freakishly talented pop singer for young girls?
Why does everything have to be Trump?
I don't know.
It's really weird.
And again, I'm sympathetic to being so opposed to Trump that people who actually publicly do sympathize with him, there is some sort of like aversion to.
But she hasn't come out in favor of anyone at all.
I think the only like political thing that she really did was like, I mean, it wasn't even political.
It was like on election day.
She was like, go vote and like post an Instagram or something about it.
I don't think that there's anything wrong with that.
I think if you want to make your music accessible to everyone in the country, everyone who voted for Hillary, who voted for Bernie, and who voted for Trump or voted third party, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
I mean, at what point do we have something that's unifying?
I mean, like, we cannot get to the point as a country where there's nothing that we can all just like sit around and laugh about.
Like, the fact that it's now so heavily politicized to sit down, have a beer, and watch an NFL game without making it a political statement.
I mean, that's sad.
*music*
They've ruined everything.
They've ruined movies.
They ruined comedy.
They ruined pop music now.
I mean, what's next?
Boxing is a problem?
Football, by the way, was already a problem because of concussions.
So they double down on a lot of these things.
They just can't stop crapping on everyone's parade.
What a bunch of party poopers, huh?
Well, no, it's just funny because in the okay, in the 60s, all the Woodstock hippies, yeah, they were Marxists.
Yeah, they believed in Solinsky.
But I mean, they just partied all the time and did drugs and had fun.
Now it's like they're puritanical.
It's like a religion.
You know, it's a religion to social justice.
And it's so like anti-fun and it's so anti-social.
Well, it's also ostracizing you youngsters because young people are naturally rebellious.
They don't like rules.
And the Left is all about rules.
Tiana, we're out of time, I'm afraid, but thank you for defending Taylor.
She's a goddess.
She is.
She is.
Thanks, Mike.
Bye.
Bye.
Hey, folks, we're here at Westway Diner on 44th and 9th, and we're starting a new show today called Onion Rings with Rick Shapiro.
Rick, thanks for coming on your own show.
It's the least I can do for the people in my neighborhood.
The warning gangs and who are trying to raise themselves over again through inner child workshops and dance theater tradition.
You know, I remember growing up, we would see these kids, and we all seemed to have our heads screwed on right when we were young.
And then you and I saw these guys get into crime, get into the hood, and it was like a ship drifting away at sea.
And we said, you're just, you're going to end up dead or in jail.
And they're like, fuck you, bitch.
I'm going to be somebody.
I'm going to have that roly on my wrist.
And I feel like we're the only kids from the hood who survived.
How did you fare?
How did you do?
And you're like, ACE is big.
And I'm like, okay, because I'm trying to figure out how to get out of the mob.
I got out of propriety introducing because my ACE brother said, is there a door in that room?
I said, yeah, he goes, we'll open it and leave.
And I was like, well, he must be a Buddhist.
You know, I never thought of that.
And for one thing, if you don't mind, I left the mob.
I had to tell a shrink.
I was in the mob and I said, the way I left the mob was they always came up to me with their coats when I disappear.
And they were fat and they leaned against you, pushed your back against the wall with their guts.
And I was working on this thing.
I was paying my way to an acting class with a mob and all that.
And then I left.
You left the mob?
Yeah, and you go, and then I said, look at that cocaine, man.
I said, I'm out of here.
I want that feeling back.
I want to feel alive.
And so the guy's on there about a plane.
What's the play?
The most fascinating.
Albert Cino and Charles Mumri's Blind?
Buffalo.
I forgot what that meant, but the actress told me how he knows.
He goes, I was a thief.
I sold candy bars in Philadelphia, whatever.
I did this, I did that.
I said, okay, okay.
And then all of a sudden, I walked by the guy with the coat and his gut hanging out.
He gave me that look like a mobster.
He goes, look over.
And it meant, I'm going to be following you all the way home.
So I said, I got to deal with now.
So I went back and he pushed his gut against me.
And I heard my small words.
Small.
One letter at a time.
I went, I just wanted him, I'm inching my feet away from him so he can't tell, to be an actor.
And I was like, like five cereal boxes down by then.
And he's got that look at him.
He's always having.
He goes, how come I can't hurt this kid?
I can never hurt this kid.
I was like, because you're like my uncle.
You guys are my uncles.
Nobody believes me.
You know, I always hear from them and I'd cry and shit.
But it's so great.
Yeah, he said, hey, look.
But that had to do with fats.
How did it feel for you?
And when did you know you got out?
For me, it was a much shorter story.
I just got plastic surgery and I changed my name and I disappeared.
And I said to the feds, what do I do now?
And they said, just make sure you're never on camera and you never record anything.
You serious?
Bye.
Thank you.
What?
Oh, get off my lung.
Are you ready for it?
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