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Oct. 23, 2017 - Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes
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Live from New York, it's Get Off My Lawn with Gavin McInnes.
That was Nusrat Fata Ali Khan, Kihal Chaleyar, TikTok, Tika, Oh Shukriya.
Uda Hafiz Biari Larki.
I worked with a Pakistani for many years, and I learned some of that Urdu from him.
And I learned that Pakistan worships Nusrat Fata Ali Khan.
He was a Kawali singer.
Hakabagadu, Hakat Bagadi!
And that was a song he did with Eddie Vetter.
It was meant to showcase sort of a unity of the East and the West.
I didn't see it that way.
I saw it as a perfect example of how the East sucks.
Kawali?
Hakabagaboo!
Half the things weren't even words.
Adur, nicali, nasta, nasta.
Adur, nicali, nasta.
And then when he died, the whole country basically shut down.
It's sort of like, imagine Elvis dying and America never being the same ever again.
And that really was the fall of Pakistan.
Today on the New York Post, just one more.
The Yankees finally beat that weird leprechaun guy in the Houston Astros that was, that it's got a giant beard.
Dallas Kikal, I believe his name is.
Keiko.
Keikel?
Yeah.
Sounds kind of anti-Semitic.
They've been trying to beat him for two years, and they finally got through.
They got four runs in.
They're very happy.
They're headed to the World Series.
Who cares?
Not yet.
They still got to win another game.
I know, but it's looking pretty good.
That's a disembodied voice in the back of my head that is always skeptical of the Yankees.
This set looks better now since I changed the angle on that backdrop.
I'm more emphasized now.
A lot going on.
We have a very long and in-depth interview with Pamela Geller.
Pamela just had a guy who was trying to behead her, sentenced.
Finally, sentence came out.
This has nothing to do with Garland.
That's a whole other thing.
And we're going to talk to her about Garland.
Everything you know about Pamela Geller is wrong.
Everything.
Now, she's got a new book out with Milo's imprint called Fatwa on dangerous books that you have to check out.
So we'll talk to her.
We're also going to talk to a guy who just discovered that crocodiles and alligators eat sharks.
Did you know that?
And I'm going to convince him that his job is cooler than people who study mice.
He studies alligators fighting sharks.
You want to tattoo with that.
Some people study ponscum.
You don't want to tattoo with that.
So he's better.
And humans are better than animals.
I'm a speciesist.
We'll talk about that.
But before that, we got to get to the news.
I want to show this thing, Dave, before we get into it.
Playboy, now that Hugh Hefner has been buried, the people who work in that cemetery, I think he was buried next to Marilyn Monroe, correct?
So I'm not sure about that.
But what they want to do now is they want to spin him in his grave so much that it shakes the bones of Marilyn Monroe.
And maybe they can sell them on eBay or something because there's no doubt that he was spinning in his grave.
Now that a dude, a dude, is in Playboy.
That person used to have a penis.
He didn't cut it off.
He had it mutilated into a fake vagina shape, which we looked up on my old show.
Don't ever look it up.
You will barf.
You'll have nightmares for the rest of your life.
And as Ben Shapiro pointed out, these people who mutilate their penis have a higher suicide rate than Jews in 1943 in Germany.
That's a pretty high percentage.
I believe it floats around 50%.
And I'm looking at this guy and I'm thinking, there's something, I swear to God, I know hindsight's 2020, but I swear to God, when I first saw this dude, I went, maybe I'm gay.
Something's not happening.
Now, I could be projecting into the past, but I really feel like the first time I looked at his leg muscles, I went, I like a little bit of chub.
Something's not right here.
But it is, you know, one of the more effeminate boys, but it is a person with a penis on the cover of Playboy.
Poor Hugh, can we not do that?
Can you not have liberals take over this show when I die and make it all about trans?
I want to just sort of cleanse the palette with one of the hottest women I've ever seen in my life.
Her name is Laura Cartier.
Are you ready?
Let's just, let's cleanse ourselves, shall we?
Look at this thing.
Now, she's dating some band that opens for the, singer of the band that opens for the Rolling Stones, which is what you'd expect, you know, from someone like this.
So you can't compete.
You can't have her.
Look at that.
Look at that face.
You can't buy that, homosexuals.
I'm sorry.
You can't acquire women.
It's not something you can buy on a shelf, okay?
They are a magical thing that is not to be accrued.
It's not something you can just have.
Well, we got a movie here.
I've never seen this before.
Look at her.
Look at her.
What in the hell?
All right.
So speaking of men and women, one of the weakest men in the world is the Prime Minister of Canada.
I'll just leave one of these up in the background.
Look at her with no makeup on, just chilling.
Look at that thing standing there, being incredible.
So there's a band in Canada called The Tragically Hip, and they're sort of like the REM of Canada.
Very popular with the college kids.
Not my cup of tea at all.
They do that speaking of Eddie Vetter thing.
They have kind of a weird voice that they use.
Sounds like Ethel Merman or something.
Hollywood.
Oh, I'm a woman.
Show business like null business, I know.
They do that thing.
But the singer was once nice to Justin Trudeau.
The singer is obviously incredibly left-wing, as singers are wont to be.
And he helped get Justin elected by telling all college students that Justin's awesome.
Can you actually scroll down?
Is that there as a picture?
Keep going.
No, no, up, up, up.
That middle video.
This is the singer of Tragically Hip telling Justin Trudeau that Canada's in good hands.
Look at his face.
He's about to cry.
I think he is crying.
Real good ass.
You're in good hands.
Really good hands.
Look at him.
Can I explain to you what's going on here?
Rich people like Justin Trudeau, they never feel validated.
I've noticed this throughout my business career.
You meet the CEO of Sony or something, and because he's at the top, he always feels invalid.
He feels like the people around him don't see him as cool.
And when someone like, if Johnny Knoxville were to call the head of Universal and say, hey man, you want to get beers?
That guy would poop his pants because that never happens.
So being validated for Justin was incredible.
I'm not just Pierre Trudeau's son.
I'm cool.
The cool guy likes me, which is why when the cool guy died, which just happened, he started bawling like a baby.
For the record, men of the world, you may only cry watching World War II movies or a Clint Eastwood flick or watching videos of Marines coming home and surprising their family, their daughter, their mom, and the way they show up in their uniform at the high school gym.
You can only cry at those, and you can never do the, uh...
Do you have that picture of his tears?
It's like a bucket of water.
Look at this.
He's got that one there.
He's got a big, huge one.
I've never seen that many tears.
I mean, I've seen South African families that you see them after all but one of them has been murdered and they don't blubber like this.
God, I can't believe I just used the word blubber for Rhodesian farmers.
But yeah, let's just see a quick video of him crying his eyes out.
We lost one of the very best of us this morning.
Gord was a little bit of a mistake.
Wait, just stop.
Stop.
Gord was.
You can see that he's already been bawling for hours and hours.
His whole face is wet.
It looks like he went swimming in his own tears.
So he had an, you can tell just by looking at him, you know he's had an hour and a half of a huge blubber session.
And then he said, oh, okay, I'm good, eh?
I'm good.
Let's do, let's do it.
Jump to the end, though.
Jump to the end, like the last 25%, because he just talks about how this guy loved Canada, like really loved Canada, and he was an inspiration to me.
We all knew it was coming.
But we hoped it wasn't.
And look at those tears.
I thought I was going to make it through this, but I know it.
It hurts.
At the very least, when you're blubbering like that, just go like that.
Why are you letting them stream down your face?
He's like Tammy Faye Baker with her makeup running.
Another video I want to show before we get into the extensive discovery, I'll call it, with Pamela Geller, is Mark Zuckerberg acting like a replicant.
I don't know if you remember the first Blade Runner.
There was Harrison Ford's job, which to go and kill these robots.
I guess they get to a point where they get old and you have to kill them.
And some of the earlier replicants, they didn't even know they were robots and they fully believed they were human beings.
I think humans fell in love with them and would have sex with them.
And I love the idea of Mark Zuckerberg going back to his planet, Gorf, and the Zornads going, Mark, what are you doing?
Running for president?
You're so bad at this.
Everyone can tell you're from our planet.
You're not blending in with the humans.
The fact that he thinks that he's going to run for president and has a snowball's chance in hell is hilarious.
Remember when the talk show hosts were frothing at the mouth about Trump running for president because they thought they'd have so many jokes and he would lose so badly, they kept saying, please run, please run.
Colbert had froth coming out of his face.
He was so excited.
I feel that way about Mark Zuckerberg, except Mark's not going to win because he is a replicant from outer space.
Look at how inhuman he is and how nervous he gets when he gives away that he's not a human.
Check this out.
But it is going to bother you because you're human.
And I was human.
I am human still.
But I was just referring to myself in the past.
I think it keeps going, right?
Is that buffering?
Not that I was not human.
Yeah, that's a crucial detail.
No, you're not human.
Not that I was not human.
All right, that's enough.
Oh, it's fun to be right, isn't it?
It's good to be king.
We won.
All right, so let's get started with this Pamela Geller interview and her new book, Fatwa.
I'm going to get Milo on the show, too.
And then we'll talk to the shark guy.
Pamela, hello.
Hello, Gavin.
How are you?
Good.
Now, when I first read this verdict of Dawood Wright guilty on planning to behead you, I thought, oh, was that the, that wasn't the Texas guys?
They're dead.
And I realized, no, this is yet another example of someone trying to kill you.
This was a plot to behead me led by this Dawood Wright.
And yesterday, I'm very happy to report.
I'm deeply grateful to the courageous jury for finding him guilty on all counts.
He faces life in prison.
And I say I'm very happy.
It seems elemental that if you're planning to kill an American, not just kill, but behead.
And if you've ever watched a beheading video, you know how gruesome and barbaric that is.
But because we're living in such a state where I was blamed, you know, after Garland, where they opened 2G Haddis opened fire on a Free speech event, our free speech event in Texas.
And, you know, in Boston, my ads have been banned.
And, you know, after the bombing of the Boston Marathon, Boston Strong, Teddy Bears and Candles.
I mean, honestly, you cannot assume anything.
So, while for me, it's not surprising, in the big scheme, this jury was very courageous, and I'm deeply grateful.
I'm deeply grateful to them.
Well, look at the canary in the coal mine called Britain.
We see guys get away with raping children regularly, and they have excuses like, I didn't understand the word no.
We have a woman raped several times in one night.
All these guys seem to get a, no, they don't all get away, but they seem to get away way too often.
And then you have people being jailed for rude tweets and comments when they're white.
So people here in America say, oh, Muslims are what?
1 or 2% of the population?
There's never going to be Sharia law here.
And I say, have a look at Britain.
Have a look at Europe.
That's where we're headed.
Well, actually, and I'm banned.
I'm banned from the UK.
I've never advocated for violence ever.
I stand for freedom of speech because I believe in the war of ideas.
My ideas will win.
My ideas are better, which is why the left has to shut me down because they cannot stand up to scrutiny and challenge.
But I'm banned in the UK, but these hate preachers, these inciters to jihad, Jew hatred, and the slaughter of the infidel are welcomed.
And this is why I wrote my book, Fatwa, Hunted in America.
First of all, there is a number of fatwas on me.
A fatwa, for your listeners who may not know, is a legal ruling under a recognized authority in Islam.
And it's a death sentence, and it has no expiration date, which is why, for example, the Charlie Hebdo staff of Paris Weekly in France was slaughtered almost two years after the first initial fatwa.
When the Islamic State issued the fatwa, then I required 24-hour security.
And this idea that an American in 21st century America needs 24 hours security to stand because they stand in defense of freedom of speech and the media blames them is really striking.
You know, some people think I just, I'm a provocateur, which I'm not.
And I threw a dart at a map of America and went to Garland.
That's not what happened, Gavin.
Three days after the Charlie Hebdo bloodbath, Muslim leaders in this country got together in Garland, Texas, and held a conference not in support of the First Amendment.
That would have been a gorgeous moment for American Muslims.
No, it was a conference in support of the ideology behind that bloodbath, behind that jihad slaughter.
A Stand with the Prophet conference in support of the Sharia.
I had no idea.
Yes.
Yes.
Stand with the Prophet.
Google it, ladies and gentlemen.
You'll see protesters outside.
That's me.
That's incredible.
And when that happened, I thought, what an exciting story.
Someone does an art show for free speech.
And by the way, no one ever talks about this.
It was a good art show.
The art there was very good.
It wasn't a bunch of children drawing Muhammad with crayons.
It was beautiful.
The guy who won did a beautiful job.
The picture's in your book.
Yes.
You know, it's interesting.
I held an art exhibit.
So it was not just the competition, but it was an exhibit of Muhammad depicted in art and literature over the past 1,400 years.
And people were not always being killed.
But clearly today, it is, and that was the point.
Clearly today, it is a violent intimidation to impose these blasphemy laws, these Sharia laws in the West.
The media never talks about the fact that there were depictions over the past 1,000 years and the competition, which, by the way, was won by a former Muslim, Bosh Forsten.
And what's interesting is that, A, the FBI, as you know, we know now, was in on the planning.
We know that from the text in a separate indictment for an ISIS recruiter, Eric Jamal Hendricks.
They were in on the planning.
They were at our event.
They were in the car.
16 Minutes did a piece on this where they were in the car behind the jihadis.
They got out and took cell phone footage right before the jihadis started firing.
They got back into the car and drove away and were actually pulled over by the Garland Police because the Garland Police thought that the FBI were part of the jihad attack.
They did not have anyone to defend us.
They had no security there.
They did not warn us.
The security guard that was shot at Garland is suing the FBI for aiding and abetting the Islamic State.
It was my security team that took out those two jihadis.
It was my SWAT team that took out those two jihadis.
And even in Boston, we found out in that beheading plot yesterday where the Dawood Wright, the jihadi was found guilty.
We found out the FBI was in on that plan too.
They never warned us.
So there's a real disconnect.
There's a real problem in America.
And we're seeing the same thing like those rape gangs in the UK where law enforcement knew about it and didn't do anything because they didn't want to be racist.
Islam is not a race.
It's an ideology.
They didn't want to be racist and they didn't want to be Islamophobic.
And we're seeing the same thing with the FBI now.
You're seeing it with Vegas.
Look, I don't know what happened in Vegas, but I can tell you this, Gavin.
The most logical explanation, the top of the line, is jihad.
Now, the fact that the FBI dismissed it out of hand, ISIS took credit for it, which they never do.
They never take credit for events that are not theirs.
When the jetliner went down in the Sinai, the Russian jetliner, and they took credit for it, and the authorities said, no, it wasn't ISIS.
And then they provided proof weeks later, photographic proof of the weaponry.
And so the authorities had a backpedal with their tail between their legs.
The Philippines this past June, Resorts World Casino, huge attack.
ISIS took credit.
They said, no, it wasn't them.
It was a robbery.
Nothing was robbed.
Turns out it was sanctioned, if not directed, by the Islamic State.
The idea that this guy had 200 financial transactions flagged for covert terrorism financing.
The idea that Stephen Paddock made multiple trips to the Middle East.
Where was he going?
Who did he meet with?
Are they investigating this?
No.
What I find disturbing is they're defaulting to this really absurd, nutty conspiracy theory that it was Valium.
The guy had a prescription for Valium, 50 pills.
He took 20 over 1,500 days or 18 months.
And that's your obvious motive?
The American people are woefully, painfully disarmed in the information battle space.
This is a war, in the war of ideas, which is why they should be required to read my book, because I am but a Proxy in this long and terrible war.
And what happened to me is what happens to every American in small and large ways who stands in defense of freedom.
If you told me on September the 12th, 2001, that those that stood in defense of America, individual rights and freedom, would be smeared, defamed, libeled, mocked, made into a monster, I would have had you baker acted.
I would have had you institutionalized, but that's exactly what happened.
And the American people, no one is going to save you.
You are going to save you.
And you have to get armed.
And the way to do that is to first learn everything.
And my book, Fatwa, Hunted in America, is the best place to start.
You just blew my mind.
My mind looks like World Trade on September 12th, 2001.
I have nothing but ash behind my eyes right now.
There's so much there.
Even in that one rant, the FBI knew about the attack and did nothing.
If you didn't hire security, you would have died that day as well as everyone there.
And the FBI would have been complicit in that mass murder.
And let me tell you, it gets even worse because the FBI was texting.
The undercover agent was texting with the jihadis, Ibrahim Sinson and Adia Sufi.
Now, the question is, how do I know this?
Because it came out, those texts, those actual texts, were part of an indictment against Eric Jamal Hendricks in North Carolina, who was indicted for recruiting for ISIS.
He was a ringleader of Garland, and he wasn't arrested for 16 months.
Why was he at lodge for 16 months?
So when the left heard this story, the Daily Beast ran stuff like, well, look at this, the FBI was saying tear up Texas.
They were trying to say that the FBI entrapped this group.
I didn't have a problem with that.
I didn't even have a problem with tear up Texas because I understand you have to embed, like Donny Brasco and the mafia, you have to embed these jihad cells.
My problem was they never told us, they never warned us, and they had no one there.
If I didn't have security there, they would have opened fire on hundreds of Americans.
The first Islamic state attack in this country at a free speech event, at a freedom of speech event.
And of course, no one ever talks about that it was the first Islamic State attack.
No one ever talks about the attack because the media hates the narrative.
They didn't even report on this beheading plot.
The reason why they reported on it yesterday is because the guy was guilty on all, I think it was all eight counts.
It was amazing.
They've ignored this story.
But let me tell you something, Gavin.
If a hijab-wearing Muslima was targeted by a Christian group, okay, in the cause of Jesus Christ, and they were found guilty on eight counts, oh my God, there would be a statue replacing Christopher Columbus built to that woman in Central Park.
That's the low state of freedom.
And when you say Sharia is coming, I say to you, Sharia is here.
Do you know in every city in this country, when I submitted ads, not to be provocative, to counter Muslim ads that were running that were viciously anti-Jewish or pro-jihad, so I could run an ad to counter it.
I had to sue to get them up.
I won in every city.
And you know what happened?
They imposed the Galiban.
They banned all political ads.
Imagine 21st Century America, First Amendment.
They banned all political and issue-related ads.
In New York, Gelliban, Washington, Galiban, Boston, Galiban, Miami, Chicago, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Denver.
You think the American people know this?
I submit to you, they do not know this, and that's why they need to read the book.
Yes, well, we will.
I mean, I remember that going on in New York.
And you know what?
This is a great example of how bad the media is at doing their job.
Like, after that happened in Texas, the headline was, it should have been, lunatic jihadists drive across the country to kill American get taken out by guns instantly by armed men.
Boom.
That's a great, heroic First Amendment story.
And then you go to the paper and it says, shooting at Muhammad cartoon contest in Texas leaves two people dead.
Well, yeah, I guess technically it did leave two people dead, but it was two people that were trying to kill everyone.
Yeah.
I mean, and you know, the mosque in Phoenix, their mosque, I mean, lied repeatedly.
You know, behind every jihad attack is the imprimatur of a mosque, is the imprimatur of a Muslim cleric.
They lied.
They said they didn't really attend.
Excuse me, Ibrahim Simpson was the star of their fundraising video.
Ibrahim Simpson had been arrested for jihad terror-related crimes prior, and the mosque posted his bail.
He slept in that mosque.
His friend said everything he knew about Islam was from that mosque.
Was that mosque ever investigated?
No.
As a matter of fact, I'd like to know why Stephen Paddock kept going to Phoenix and buying his weapons there and driving back.
Is there a connection to that mosque?
I don't know.
But I'll tell you something.
If after Garland that mosque was monitored, you would know.
You would absolutely know.
You have to investigate these mosques like the Islamic Society of Boston that is behind the Boston Marathon bombing, Tariq Mahana, multiple jihad attacks.
These are not happening in a vacuum.
And when the FBI talks about terrorist propaganda, I mean, that's just a dysphemism for the Quran.
Because that's where all of this, they're citing Quran chapter and verse.
The Islamic State is citing Quran chapter and verse.
And people think that once the Islamic State is defeated, that that's it.
Excuse me, there are thousands of Muslim armies.
Boko Haram, El-Shabaab, Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic State, Mujaharim.
I mean, you and I, we don't have the time for me to start listing them.
But the fact is, the problem is in the jihadic doctrine.
This is the problem.
And the fact that we can't talk about it, and anyone that does will be smeared, defamed, and libeled.
In Muslim countries, you're assassinated.
If you violate the Sharia.
In the West, your character is assassinated.
They make you into a monster.
And why do they do that?
A, because their ideas can't stand up to challenge.
I'll debate anyone in the war of ideas, anyone, anywhere.
I know I will win.
So they have to, it's ad hominem attacks.
They have to make you into a monster.
Because if you are a monster, who listens to a monster?
Who listens to the message?
What rational person is going to say, oh, I want to hear what this Ku Klux Klan, you know, Rampuba has to say?
The idea that they call me a neo-Nazi, a Jewish girl whose grandparents fled anti-Semitism in Europe and Russia shows you how absurd and scary the left is.
The fact that they say Nazism is hard leftism, excuse me, the Nazi Party is the National Socialist Workers' Party.
Read Mein Kampf.
Yeah, Hitler was a Jew hater, but he was also a hard leftist.
He was a socialist.
But it's accepted de facto that Nazism is on the right.
These are the big giant lies that the left advances without challenge.
And that's why people like you and me are not just defamed and libeled.
But now, after Trump was elected, they say, how did that happen?
We have everything.
We have the movies.
We have media.
We have music.
We have academia.
We have everything.
How did that happen?
Websites like mine and yours, shows like yours, social media.
So you see, it's gotten worse for us after Trump was elected because social media giants are run by uniformly leftist corporate managers.
And so I, for example, have a number of groups on Facebook.
My one page is 1.2 million.
They block my newsfeed.
They block it so that my people don't get on their timelines, their newsfeeds anymore, my posts from my website.
Google AdSense suspended my account.
How am I supposed to make a living?
They starve you.
Google AdSense said my site was dangerous and derogatory.
I'm posting news stories.
I don't understand.
YouTube deleted my channel.
PayPal deleted my account.
Pinterest, those housewives, okay, can't share my links because it's inappropriate content.
So there are a number of battles.
This is why I'm suing the DOJ, because the DOJ grants immunity to these social media giants under section 230 of the FEC code that must be lifted.
If the government could go after American tobacco and could go after Standard Oil and President Clinton could sue Microsoft and they could break up Mob Bell, then these antitrust laws must be used to break up Facebook or to impose the First Amendment on them.
Because the fact is, in the last century, your method of communication was the telephone.
Today, your method of communication is your IP address.
That's your method of communication.
And they're spying on me and my comment is on Facebook and saying, oh, you can't say that to your friend.
Oh, no, we're going to put you in Facebook jail.
We're going to block you.
We're going to ban you.
You're going to be shadow banned on Twitter.
Milo is going to be suspended, deleted from Twitter.
There's nowhere else.
There's no other place like Twitter.
So these are the battles of the future.
The fact that we got our message out there on social media, and yes, and this David, you, me, David, defeated Goliath, they are still smarting.
They cannot get over it.
And this is why the battles are becoming all the more crucial right now.
You cannot rest.
There are no rest for the fighters.
You know, I think you left out one important detail there.
Yes, the Nazi thing trivializes you and it makes your voice irrelevant, but it also dehumanizes you.
And when they can dehumanize us and say this person is a monster, not only do you not want to listen to a monster, but you can kill a monster and it's a just kill.
And so a fatwa on a monster doesn't seem as terrible because she gets people killed.
She had two people killed in Texas.
So she's a monster.
She's a killer.
She got killed.
It's a spoil of war.
It's a casualty.
Bingo.
And you know what is never mentioned in the media?
These jihadists were targeting the Super Bowl.
They were planning for 18 months.
They were going out into the desert.
They were target shooting.
They were planning for 18 months some spectacular act of jihad.
And then when I announced the exhibit, they decided to do that instead.
Nobody talks about that the lives were saved by that exhibit.
Nobody talks about what would have happened.
No one.
And so, again, this is dishonest.
This is the American people being disarmed in the information battle space.
And so we have our work cut out for us.
But there are no casual observers in this war.
There is the right side, there is a wrong side, and the middle is evil.
Any compromise, as Ayn Rand said, between death and poison, you know, between food and poison, death wins.
Any compromise between good and evil, and evil wins.
People have to get involved.
There's no middle of the road, middle, sitting on the fence.
You are aiding And abetting the enemy, everybody has to get activated.
Everybody has to get active in this fight.
And look, if history has taught us anything, it's that the individual can change the course of human events.
Boom!
Pamela, I don't know what you had for breakfast or your combination of coffees, but you need to write that down and then remember that you are the most perfect on you've ever been when you have this combination of, I don't know if you had an Egg McMuffin and two espresso or whatever it is.
That's your formula.
That is your secret formula.
Put that in a lockbox as your secret recipe because that was, my mind is ash.
I had no idea about half of these things.
Wow.
Yeah.
Listen, hey, listen, thank you so much for having me.
You know, this is a subject matter that people just don't want to touch.
They have no problem with guns.
They have no problem.
I mean, but jihad is the third rail.
People are terrified of it.
They're afraid they don't want to be called a racist Islamophobic anti-Muslim bigot.
And so I really, I'm deeply grateful that you had me on to discuss Fatwa Hunted in America.
Well, let's get that book out there.
I can't wait to read it.
It sounds like it's going to be a thrilling ride.
It's shocking.
It's really a tell-all.
I don't think people have any clue.
I urge people to order it.
Go to Amazon or go to Barnes and Noble, Fatwabook.com or Gella Book.
No, FatwaBook.org.
FatwaBook.org and Gellabook.com.
The reason why I want them to do it now is because, you know, Barnes and Noble won't carry this book.
But if I have a large enough pre-order, they will.
And what I mean to, look, the book is going to do well.
What I want to do here is widen our sphere of influence.
I want to push the boundaries outside of my online audience.
I've got to reach other Americans in the information battle space, and if I'm in a Barnes and Noble or I'm in these bookstores or even in the airport, I will.
Thanks to Milo, Dangerous Books, they published this.
I couldn't get...
Listen, I didn't shop it.
for six years after Garland, nobody would publish my book.
I had successful books.
Everyone was afraid.
Their publishing house would be blown out.
They should be more afraid of not publishing.
They should be more afraid of doing nothing.
So kudos to Milo's Dangerous Books and printing the cartoon.
No Western media will do that.
No one's done that.
Yeah, that's the first time I've seen it in print.
Yeah.
Milo.
And so, you know, this is all really new and wonderful, and I'm very excited.
And please pre-order the book so that we can get into bookstores.
We really must change the direction of the national dialogue, and we need to do it.
We're reaching a tipping point, and now is the time.
Now is the time.
You're going to wake up in a gulag.
You're going to be like, how did I get here?
I just pre-ordered it as you were saying that.
You're the best.
It's on the way.
Proceed to check out.
Pamela, best of luck with this book.
You're a constant inspiration.
God bless you.
Thank you so much for having me.
Bye-bye.
That was intense.
Speaking of needing a palate cleanser after seeing the transsexual in Playboy, I think we needed sort of a political palate cleanser after the intensity of Pamela Geller and what she's going through and how blind America is.
So let's have a totally apolitical piece about the recent discovery that alligators eat sharks.
Hi, James.
You there?
Yeah, how's it going?
Good.
I should warn you, I'm a bit of a speciesist, and I think humans are what God was going for, and the rest are all freaks.
Like when I see a hammerhead shark, my heart breaks, and I think, what a genetic mishap this is.
I think they're amazing.
Don't they look like a genetic accident to you?
A little like a science experiment gone wrong, maybe.
Yes.
Yes.
They're very effective in what they do.
I guess.
But when you see a crocodile or an alligator, you just think, hey, guys, ever heard of evolving?
You look 500 million years old.
Yep.
Yep.
And they haven't really had to because they're so good at what they do.
I mean, that is, yeah.
But can't you just run in a zigzag pattern to get away from them?
Can't they not touch them?
They actually will catch you faster if you run in a zigzag pattern because you're running slower.
So if you just run a straight line away from them, that's your best bet.
Oh, okay.
So explain to me what this new scoop is, that alligators are eating sharks.
Yeah, so basically my dissertation research started back in 2007 and I looked at how alligators were using marine habitats.
And that was through looking at stomach contents and analyzing blood and tissue for certain signatures of what they were eating.
And during that time, I talked to a lot of other individuals that were working in this environment and that had made observations of alligators eating various types of sharks and stingrays.
So over the past 10 years, I sort of just accumulated all this evidence and put it together in a format that actually looks at the subject and says, well, how common is this?
What do we know so far?
And what should we know in the future?
Or sort of to start some new research on the subject was really the kind of point of the article.
And they're very hard to bite through, aren't they?
Aren't they very thick and leathery sharks?
Yeah, yeah.
But crocodilians, including alligators, have the strongest bite force of any animal alive today.
So if anything would be able to consume a shark, it would be an alligator or crocodile.
If you can see behind me is a skull of a 12-foot alligator back there.
And then beside it, I don't know if you can see, is about a six-foot jaws from a six-foot lemon shark.
So, you know, those jaws could fit right in the mouth of that, you know, alligator.
Could a shark bite through an alligator?
A large enough shark can.
And, you know, there's been records of sort of clashes.
I go over in the paper back in the 1800s, they were reported in the sort of popular literature newspapers that big clashes between sharks and alligators and where they would battle in sort of certain situations, both killing each other.
And then a couple of records of sharks actually just eating an alligator.
And it has to be usually a very large shark.
We're talking about 10-foot tiger sharks, things like that, that can bite through a sea turtle shell.
So they can definitely bite through the sort of body at least of crocodilians.
And there's also records from across the world of great white sharks eating American crocodiles, some tiger sharks, and I think another great white shark eating Nile crocodiles.
So it happens both ways.
So you don't really get cooler than that, a crocodile fighting a shark.
That's something you would want to get a tattoo of.
Is there a hierarchy in your scene?
And when you meet a guy who's doing his dissertation on koala bears, at the wine and cheeses, there must be kind of a, those must be the losers of the community.
Like, are you guys the rock stars?
No, no, we're a pretty small community that works on crocodilians, probably a couple hundred of us across the world.
And I'm part of what's called the Crocodilian Specialist Group, which is part of the IUCN's group to look at endangered species status of crocodilians.
And so, and also, you know, a lot of these meetings that we go to, you know, are just crocodilian biologists.
We're just herpetologists that study reptiles and amphibians.
And, you know, a lot of times there's not a lot of crossover between some of these sub-disciplines where people are studying on, you know, like you say, field mice versus, you know, alligators.
But sometimes we Do and you know, it's all respected, I think.
You know, everything is good knowledge, I think.
I think you're the second coolest.
It goes sharks, crocodilians, snakes, tigers, lions, and then there's a bunch, right?
And maybe bats, and then mice.
Anything cute is at the bottom.
It's sort of like at the hockey rink when you're picking up your five sons, and then the guy's picking up his two daughters from figure skating.
Obviously, the guy with the five sons is a better person than the guy with the two daughters.
Well, I look at alligator, and I just think they're the cutest thing in the world.
What?
They look like Satan's pets.
They look like they run the gates of hell.
They literally look like a demon.
Yeah, they're pretty cool.
And if you can beat up a shark, you probably are.
Well, that's fascinating, James.
Thanks for coming on the show and congratulations on this discovery.
We had no idea these things were such savage beasts.
Yeah, they are.
They are.
And they've been around a long time.
So, yeah.
You should get a tattoo of them.
Thanks for having me.
Do you have a tattoo of a crocodile?
Yeah, I got a Gator skull on my leg.
Let's see it.
Full 3D Gator skull.
Let's see here.
I mean, you kind of have to, right?
If you're the top crocodilian guy.
Oh, that looks great.
In your face, Panda experts.
You nerds.
Thanks for coming on, James.
Hope to have you back.
Thanks for having me.
It was a great time.
Cheers.
I just want to play this in the background here.
This is the sheriff in Sonoma County, I believe, where the death toll up in Northern California with these fires is up to 42.
These guys, these racist pigs, are going into people's homes, getting people handicapped, paralyzed people of all races, of all ages, putting them in their cars and driving through hell.
I mean, this looks like hell.
They're driving through hell to rescue these people to try to minimize the deaths and the human damage.
Look at these flames.
They're driving through the fires.
There's hot embers roaring over their windshield.
So the next time people tell you that cops are pigs, say you're sitting around on your front porch or something and someone walks up and goes, I'm sorry, Hi, could I talk to you?
I'm from Black Lives Matter and I want to talk about how police violence and police racism, police brutality has forced us to a police state.
We're living in a police state.
Just go get out of my lawn.
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