GabCast Bellgab.com - 02 November, 2018

Nov. 2, 2018 - GabCast Bellgab.com

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02 November, 2018

02 November, 2018 ---------- This episode was hosted by Liberace!, Chefist, and Richard Groyper. Lit city!!!!! 2018: With this episode, the show returns following the reopening of BellGab.

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	Don't treat Keith this way He can't survive with only Jack without no bucks So baby Don't freak it this way You'd be remiss He'll surely miss 600 bucks Don't freak it this way
	You're hot on selling blood burning cookies too Now come on see the money Rollo cat pills too See that be your wire It was his talk show He helped with all the earning you should pay the toll Now come on see the light that is what it's me Cause someone that cash money should get the kid Don't, don't you treat Keith this way.
	No, Don't you understand?
	It ain't a grim, It's a small fee.
	Please don't freak it this way.
	No, baby, don't freak it this way.
	No, He ain't get surprised with only Jack, without no bucks.
	Baby, don't freak it this way.
	You're hot on selling blood burning cookies too.
	Now come on, send the money.
	Rollo cat pills too.
	Send it to your wire, it was his talk show.
	He helped with all the earning, you should pay the toll.
	Now come on see the line letter with me.
	There's someone that gets money.
	Get to keep some of that cash money.
	Don't get
	Oh don't freak it this way the moon Top it up, biscuit on the plate.
	It's hard to do this.
	Get on.
	Bronzes of life shows, but take us on a line.
	Filled at the bar, searching for the truth.
	Will there be a show tomorrow?
	Will the star bear shine you midnight in the cut shed and we're listening to
	Just next door, hold up here It was the space of your mentor He's no longer there As the days to life shows quicken are the gravestones of design Have we lost our lives and scriders Have we paid their last time
	in the caption Just listening.
	He's flown Pro Way is kin Art gave the shed she thought she And made it with the boss.
	He's gonna walk.
	And now it's Keith.
	Who's calling all the shots?
	You're stuck for life and night.
	Subscribers said bye-bye.
	Now Keith can breathe a sign.
	You're stuck for life and night.
	You're stuck for life and night.
	Unless your broom can fly.
	Your content was phone dry.
	And now you're stuck in night.
	Down well, they all know you all was to use stone.
	Art gave the shed.
	She loved she and made it with the boss.
	He's got a wall.
	And now it's Keith who's calling all the shots.
	You're stuck for life and night.
	Subscribers said bye-bye.
	Now Keith can breathe a sign.
	You're stuck for life and night.
	You're stuck for life and night.
	Unless your broom can fly.
	Your content was phone drive.
	And now you're stuck in night.
	You're stuck for life and night.
	Subscribers said bye-bye.
	Now Keith can breathe a sign.
	You're stuck for life and night.
	This is the Gab Cast, a podcast about BellGab.com.
	Call the show now at 623-242-CAST.
	That's 623-242-2270.
	Now shut up, sit down and listen to the damn show.
	That's the wrong number.
	It's not even close.
	Hi, this is the GabCast.
	I'm Liberace.
	How are you?
	And that is my legal name.
	And if you'd like to be on the show, you can call in.
	The number to call is 573-837-4948.
	It's 573-837-4948.
	This is a podcast about one of the internet's most interesting and important, I think, websites, bellgab.com.
	I think I was a little hot there.
	You know, I was kind of surprised to see that this was going to work at all because after you go as long as I've gone without doing this sort of thing, and then you sit back down here and you reconnect cables.
	I've had such an insane day.
	I had no time to test any of this equipment before I went on tonight, but I think everything's working the way it's supposed to.
	But after you go so long without having done this, you have no idea what you're going to sit down here and encounter.
	And so far, so good, other than the phone number, Snafu.
	So again, that number's 573-837-4948.
	It's 573-837-4948.
	If you happen to be listening and you're wondering where everybody's chatting at, you can do that in the Gabcast thread at bellgab.com.
	And I'm going to keep up with the thread as I'm going through the show here.
	I noticed Brig is already doing some show prep for me.
	Well, I don't know.
	Well, other people are attempting to do show prep.
	I'm looking at a post here from Kazuna AI that says she could try giving a cat away or giving away a cat.
	He's referring to Heather.
	She says that we aren't.
	He's referring to Heather Wade, the host of some obscure overnight podcast about goblins and such.
	And she says, we're not getting enough subscriptions to keep us on the air.
	Not sure what to do.
	I'll keep you updated.
	And Kazuna AI replies, she could try giving away a cat.
	So in lieu of my lack of show prep, or in lieu of my show prep, I guess would be the way to put that.
	People are attempting to contribute on the forum.
	And I really appreciate that.
	If I scroll up even more, I can see, oh, wait, no, I have to go back to the previous page.
	I don't know.
	I really wish we had a regular chat room.
	I will just put that out there.
	I'm not pretending this is the superior way to handle this, okay?
	But, you know, I'm trying to get back into the swing of this thing, and there's no chat room currently.
	What am I going to do?
	We got to have some mechanism for people to be able to type and read the written word that others have written.
	But Brig posted.
	No, that was the post that Brigg submitted.
	The one about subscriptions being lacking.
	This is the second go around with this whole...
	Where do they need to be?
	I mean, really, if you're doing a podcast and you're doing it on a podcast network run by a guy who's got 700 Twitter followers, I don't know really what...
	God, she's dumb.
	Doesn't anyone out there know that if you're podcasting, you don't need anyone else to help you do it?
	Has everybody figured that out at this point?
	Even I, I guess on some level, was dumb enough to think that there was something to that at one point.
	But now I'm so off of it.
	At one point, I was going to make the UFO ship website, ufoship.com, some sort of a, I guess, podcast network.
	I hate to use the word network even because it's so inapplicable.
	It's just a website and a bunch of people coming together and all putting their podcasts on one particular website.
	Maybe they'll have separate RSS feeds for those podcasts.
	I don't know.
	But that's not a network.
	It's not like this show emanates from Westwood One and is fed to over 400 affiliates nationwide.
	That's not what that is.
	So why are you calling it a network?
	It's not a network.
	I mean, I guess you could say the internet itself is the network.
	Is that the angle?
	I don't know.
	But I see all these websites referring to themselves as podcast networks.
	Entirely unnecessary from the podcaster's perspective.
	All you got to do is set up a website, install WordPress, well, get some hosting, buy a domain name, set up WordPress.
	I swear to God, if you're a podcaster and you have no idea how to do that, I won't help you, but I could help you.
	And I think I could have you up and running with a decent WordPress website.
	Not to say I've employed any of those skills at the ufoship.com website.
	I'm just saying that for you, I could, even though I won't, I could have a functional WordPress site up ready for you to podcast within about 30 minutes.
	But no, Heather is such a brain surgeon, she's decided that she needs to sidle up to some website that has a few hundred listeners.
	And we're talking about a few hundred listeners spread across multiple shows, by the way.
	I don't understand the logic behind that.
	Just set up your own thing and do your own thing.
	It speaks in my mind, the way I see this, it speaks to a lack of confidence on her part because for whatever reason, I don't know if she's not, if she's not proficient or confident with the technical angles of all of this.
	I don't know if she feels like she just doesn't carry enough water in order to be able to present herself as a solo product presentation and say, here it is.
	I don't know why she feels the need to just sort of hook her wagon to something else and do that.
	It doesn't make any sense to me.
	Just start your own website and do your own thing.
	But again, when you decide to do that and you choose a website that has all of about 500 people listening over the course of a 24-hour period, why are you shocked you're not getting enough subscriptions?
	And how many are enough, by the way?
	Do you need enough to pay the power bill, the house payment on the cuck shed?
	I don't know what constitutes enough.
	And the rumor is that now rumors are everywhere and there's no way to substantiate this unless there's public, that's a real, that's a real sticking point here.
	There's a lot of public information that I'm not privy to because I've kind of been out of the loop.
	I haven't paid any attention to anything going on in that whole universe during that entire three months.
	Bellgab was down.
	I really paid next to no attention to any of it.
	And so I am out of the loop in a number of ways.
	And any information that anybody wants to call in and present to me, and I will, of course, provide my expert analysis, I'd be happy to hear that.
	But I, I'm sorry, I just got distracted and I don't, I lost my train of thought.
	I don't know what I was going into there.
	But I don't understand why it is.
	Oh, that's the, the rumor was that Art left Heather a bunch of money.
	A bunch of money.
	Now, whether that's true or not, I don't know.
	I don't know if it's been substantiated or not in any way publicly.
	But if that is in fact true, I would think you've got a little bit of a buffer to rest yourself on in order to be able to, I don't know, maybe just worry about focusing on doing a good show rather than pissing publicly on social media about the fact that you're not getting any subscribers.
	Or maybe, I mean, since the show is so milquetoast and locked down and she only takes phone calls from people that she knows for fear that somebody might come on the air and say poo-poo or but, it's so locked down, I would think that it's entirely congruent with an advertising model.
	Hold on, I've got Michael, you there?
	Oh, let me turn him up.
	There we go.
	Are you there?
	Let's try again.
	Here, there we go.
	I had you on the wrong channel here.
	Hey, could you do me a favor?
	Because the Skype I've got you on now is the Skype that I want to bring callers in on.
	And I was wondering, could you add my Michael VanDeeven account to your Skype?
	Just go to Skype and search for Michael VanDeven because I've got two separate instances of Skype here.
	And I try to keep the co-host and the caller separate.
	Otherwise, it just all gets screwed up.
	And I tried to add you on my Michael VanDeven account, but there are 10 gazillion Michael Deacons on Skype.
	Skype is such a piece of crap.
	It's amazing to me that they have not figured out, like if I go to your profile and I click view, profile, I would think I would see something right there that would enable me to go to my Michael VanDeven Skype and then add you.
	But I can't do that.
	I don't know.
	Skype is such a pile of crap.
	I even had to downgrade to an early version of Skype because there's some functionality that Microsoft has ripped out of the latest Skype.
	What version of this pile of crap do I have here?
	I can't even, I don't even know what version I have.
	It's 7.00.
	The latest is 8.3 something.
	But anyway, I can't add you.
	So if you could just add me, and then we'll get you back on after you do that.
	Cool, cool, cool.
	Okay, go ahead and do that, and I'll just wait for you to get on.
	But rumors are unsubstantiated.
	I'm totally out of the loop.
	I have no idea what's going on.
	I've basically been away for three months, paying zero attention to any of this.
	I would think that if a big pile of cash were left behind, subscriptions might not be such a pressing matter.
	I would think maybe you would just focus on doing a better show.
	And then organically, the subscriptions would increase.
	But the other problem is, and what a lot of these podcasters don't understand, is when you take your podcast and you put it on a website, let's say you're doing a podcast that gets a reasonable number of people, and you take that podcast, you put it on a website that sort of aggregates a bunch of different podcasts together all in one place.
	Well, the advantage there is not to you.
	The advantage is to the owner of that website and the other podcasters, but certainly not nearly as much to the other podcasters as to the owner of the website.
	Because you're not going to be the primary featured thing.
	You're going to be one among many.
	There he is.
	I got him.
	And I'll go ahead and call that and bring him on.
	And how about this?
	Can you hear me okay?
	There we go.
	Okay.
	So anyway, you go and you add your website.
	And I was talking, this is Michael Deacon.
	Hey, buddy, how's it going?
	I'm fantastic.
	How are you?
	I'm all right.
	And I was talking to you about this just the other day.
	We talk a lot on Voxer, actually, that little push-to-talk walky-talky app, which I would highly recommend everyone out there consider using.
	If you want to be able to communicate with people, but you don't like to text, but you also don't like having a phone call, that's a great way to do it.
	So check out Voxer.
	Fantastic app there.
	And yeah, I'm on actually on the classic Skype as well, back to 7.4.
	Me too.
	That's what I had to do just before the show, because the latest Skype does not allow multiple instances.
	It's like, I just don't understand that.
	I don't know why they do that sort of thing.
	But when I saw the new Microsoft, when I saw the new Skype and I saw visually from the user interface standpoint just how totally debald and flat it looked, I knew as soon as I get into trying to do some sort of an internet radio show with this thing, I'm in trouble.
	Anyway, we were talking about this just the other day, the idea that it's just ridiculous to think that there's necessarily any advantage to the podcaster putting your podcast on some website where you're just shoved in there on some page with 30 other people doing the same thing you're doing.
	You're not getting featured.
	You're not necessarily the nucleus of what's holding everything together there.
	You're just one podcast among many.
	So why would you be shocked in that circumstance that you're not necessarily getting the subscription numbers you had expected?
	And I don't know if you heard me before you came on, Michael, but I saw Brig posted a screen cap of a message from Heather where she says, where is it?
	We're not getting enough subscriptions.
	Keep us on the air.
	I'm not sure what I'll do, but I'll keep you updated, okay?
	It's nauseating.
	It's the second time she's done this.
	The first time was that audio recording of her when she was doing Midnight in the Desert that was attached on bellgab.com to a post.
	What is that?
	What is that?
	What kind of shtick is that?
	I mean, it seems like just like if you have abilities of perception, if you know how to communicate with people, if you understand the human condition and you know how things work in this universe we're all walking around in, it just seems to me you would know this is not the way to go about getting your subscriptions to rise.
	That's just my take.
	I don't know.
	I'm crazy, maybe.
	I don't know.
	By the way, I'm sorry I'm late.
	I mixed up the time.
	I didn't even know we were doing this live right now.
	Yeah, we are on the air.
	I actually just went ahead and went and I figured, well, maybe some people will call in.
	I don't know, but there's so much to talk about that I probably could have sat here by myself for a couple hours.
	There's easily covered easily.
	But of course, hello, ladies and gentlemen, everyone out there out there on Belgab, of course, Michael, not a right-wing wacko or convict fillin, nor have I ever been, I've never been faced with any sort of heinous allegations made my way.
	And I'm so happy and proud to say that.
	But of course, how are you, MV?
	I haven't talked to you on the air ever.
	This is kind of amazing here.
	Well, I have had multiple heinous accusations lobbed my way, so I wish I could say that about myself, but unfortunately, I can't.
	You know what something, you know what?
	While Belgab was down, that Michael Vera guy decided, I don't, I don't, I've never even directly communicated with the guy to my knowledge or to my recollection.
	I may have posted about him on Belgab just in passing, but not in any substantive way.
	And someone told me recently that because during the summer when Belgab was down, he decided to start releasing information about me, which I don't care.
	I've never been arrested.
	I don't have anything about me that I can think of off the top of my head that I would necessarily care that people, I mean, we all have things we would like to remain private, of course, but in terms of information that would be accessible to him or anybody else just out there in the world, I can't think of anything about myself that I would necessarily care that people know.
	Perhaps I'm a little fatter than I would like people to know, but that's about it, really.
	I mean, that's about the extent of it.
	But he decided to release a bunch of personal information about me and my business and all kinds of stuff.
	Fine, great.
	Oh, God, you revealed that I don't, number one, use my legal name on the internet and that, two, I own my own business and I'm self-employed.
	And that three, the local TV news station from time to time sees fit to come seek my opinion and my thoughts on things.
	God, that's embarrassing.
	What kind of horrible information to have out there about yourself?
	I am so embarrassed that the local TV station sees fit to come to me and seek my wisdom on various matters.
	That is just, I really wish that hadn't been put out there.
	But I was told just a few days ago that part of the reason this stroke-mouthed guy went absolutely ape shit over the summer was because somebody in a vile, I'm not even going to describe what was done in a profoundly vile way desecrated a picture, a photo of one of his children and mailed it to him.
	And for whatever reason, this guy decided I had done that.
	Why he decided?
	He's like another version of Falkey, I guess.
	I'll bet you someone got his ear and said, you know, that Liberace over there at Belgab, I'm going to tell you something right now.
	That picture, that picture you're holding with rubber gloves right now, that Liberace, he's been known to do that from time to time.
	He's done it to five or six other people.
	I'll bet you someone just, that's all it took.
	And this guy ran with it and went ape shit.
	Well, I have two little girls myself, ages six and three.
	I'm not really into doing that sort of thing, A.
	And B, I didn't even know this guy had children because he doesn't seem functional enough, in my estimation, to take care of children.
	So when I see people who strike me in that manner, I assume simply that they either don't have children or at the very least they're in the custody of somebody else entirely.
	So wherever that guy got that information, and I'm sure this will get back to him, dude, wasn't me.
	And if you think it was me, go to the FBI because that would be so illegal on multiple levels, not the least of which is the biohazard that that action would present in the course of sending something through the U.S. Mail.
	You're not allowed to do that sort of thing with the U.S. mail.
	So, you know, just...
	I think someone was in his ear, no doubt.
	I'll say the same thing to him that I said to Falke when he thought that I had somehow embedded cameras throughout his apartment.
	If you think I did that, go to the FBI.
	Go to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
	I had to make sure everybody knows what FBI stands for.
	Go to the FBI and file a report and let them handle it because I don't know what kind of operation they're running over there at that Vera guy's website,
	but anyone who has their head screwed on, even moderately straight, would pursue it in that way as opposed to going on Twitter or just however he handled whatever it was that was the catalyst for him going insane over the summer.
	Anyone with a modicum of reasonability would have handled that entirely differently.
	If someone did that to me, if someone mailed me a picture of one of my kids, desecrated in the way that that picture supposedly was that was sent to him, that's right away.
	Right away, FBI.
	I'm going to drive straight to the local field office here and take care of business.
	Well, that's what happens when there's no communication between the two parties.
	Things get lost in the ether, and then things like this happen.
	The rumors begin.
	And of course, Michael, we've been talking for a while behind the scenes, and I've shared some of my tales with you about what's going on with me and every other network out there, for that matter.
	And it's really hard to trust people.
	And I think we see a lot of this as of late.
	Those individuals out there, they know who they are very well.
	And we saw a lot of these individuals over the summer take a new form.
	I just don't.
	I don't understand.
	I will tell you this, though.
	That Vera guy, well, I shouldn't reveal this.
	I'm not going to because I could use that later.
	But I will tell you that if he thinks nobody is aware of what he's doing behind the scenes and that that doesn't get back to anybody, he's wrong.
	I'll just put it out there like that.
	So, you know, if you, again, if you think I did that, I'm embarrassed, not that someone would think, I'm not embarrassed for myself that he thought I did that.
	I'm embarrassed for him that he thought I did that.
	It just speaks to, in my mind, a profoundly low EQ.
	Just, good God, just a low frequency douchebag.
	My God.
	And by the way, Michael, I missed everything you said earlier, especially going back to the summer.
	The rumor mill was at an all-time high.
	All sorts of rumors in regards to what went on with Michael.
	You might have addressed this, but I missed it completely.
	What exactly was the true motivation for closing down shop?
	I don't think I'm ever going to talk about that.
	And you know what?
	There are some people out there that are mad about that.
	They're mad that it closed down.
	They're mad that I didn't directly explain what happened.
	Well, to the people out there who are upset about that, that's for me.
	That's my life.
	That's my information to keep to myself.
	I don't have to tell anyone why it was.
	And I'm not speaking to you in this way, Michael.
	I'm just saying in general terms, I don't have to tell these people why it was shut down.
	I don't have to explain any of that to them.
	They can just simply be thankful and happy that it's back.
	Everything is in place as it was before.
	And I've given a nine-year guarantee of no further shutdowns, which now we're down to eight years and some change.
	But there are a couple of specific people that I have seen since Belgab came back online display some of the most retarded emotions I've ever seen from another human being who's purportedly an adult over just the fact that it went down.
	And rather than being able to be happy that it came back up, still upset.
	Not enough.
	I need more.
	Well, what do you need, sir?
	I don't know, but I'll know it when I see it.
	Well, I mean, could you give me a hint?
	Just, I mean, what is it that you need to feel okay and groovy about things now?
	I just need to feel better.
	What are you going to say to me to make that happen?
	I don't.
	What do you want?
	It's back up.
	Even your private messages are all in place.
	There's not a single post that was deleted.
	Nothing's changed, so maybe that is the problem, because now that the LGAP forum is running, what was that?
	What?
	Go home and get your fucking shine box.
	Okay.
	That is one of my favorite lines from that movie.
	I think that my buddies and I probably throw that line around about six times a week.
	But I don't understand why it is that people can't just be happy that it came back up.
	And then when it came back up, during the course of that three-month period of time, there are certain people who went over to that LGAB forum that was a profoundly half-hearted attempt at recapturing the spirit of this place.
	They got so used to the cat lady locked down atmosphere, the whole vibe of things going down over there, that when Belgab finally came back and operated just as it had for a decade, with exact, it's operating exactly as it has for a decade.
	And it's like they got reconditioned.
	It's like they acclimated to that whole safe space cat lady environment where everybody's polite.
	Nobody says mean words.
	Everybody asks one another, how are you doing this morning, dear?
	You doing okay over there?
	You haven't bacon.
	I eat only organic bacon.
	I mean, what that's not ever what Belgab really was.
	I mean, there was the Bella Haven thread.
	Okay, that was like a little section where you could have that sort of experience if you wanted it.
	But overall, it was never like that.
	But these people went and got acclimated to something else that was not at all like that.
	And then when it came back up and it was exactly as it was before, they didn't manage for whatever reason to flip that switch in their brain and perceive the website, I guess, as they did previously.
	I don't know.
	But there are a lot of people.
	There are a lot of people who are not going to come back that I'm not going to miss, that I didn't like anyway, and I never read, that I scrolled through.
	And there are some people also that I am going to miss if they don't come back, which if they don't come back, okay.
	It's, you know, my life is going to go on and I'm going to continue breathing and existing, I hope.
	That's a true blessing in disguise.
	We weeded out those who don't belong.
	That's been said to me.
	You're not the first person to say that to me.
	Very true, though.
	And I think there is maybe perhaps something to be said for that.
	I mean, a good example.
	I didn't understand the insanity of some of these people until Belgab came back online.
	I'm just going to do a little reading here and just bear with me.
	No problem.
	Hi, Liberachi.
	I thought you told Art Bell you did not want Nazis on your board, but now you're loaded with them.
	I know you restarted the board and need members to post, but they are really keeping people from coming back and staying at the other site.
	Most people are telling me that this person can't write.
	Holy shit.
	My God.
	Okay.
	You know what?
	Pro tip!
	Don't use LSD before sending me a private message.
	If you do, I'll just have to disable private messages because this is almost too much to bear.
	Most people are telling me that I should stay away too.
	Oh no, because these Nazi types are very vile.
	I know you don't believe in censorship, which is admirable.
	No, you don't believe it's admirable, cunt.
	But you did tell Art Bell you did not want the Nazi racists on your board.
	I would never tell you how to run your site, just letting you know my feelings.
	I haven't been well.
	Clearly not.
	And I was arguing with them on the site.
	Nothing can change their heartlessness.
	Learn to use periods because I'm having a hard time parsing this shit.
	I really think Belgab would be back a lot.
	Would bring back a lot of member.
	Member.
	We're going to bring back a lot of member, Michael.
	If you didn't allow them on the board like you told Art Bell, he would not approve of it.
	He was a good man.
	I did not agree with him politically all the time.
	But he would be horrified about the Nazi racist types on a board with his name and his honor and the honor of all humans.
	I ask that you use some discretion about allowing these types and they're really disgusting posts.
	Many people would come back to the board if you did that.
	Oh, they really, really would.
	They've told me.
	Just a suggestion.
	I wish you and your family the very best.
	Thanks for reading this and taking this into consideration.
	Now, let me read my response.
	I understand entirely the sentiment behind what you're saying, but I just don't want to get into the business of policing speech that, one, isn't illegal and two, doesn't reveal personal information about users.
	Those two determinants are the basis of how I regulate the forum.
	Full stop.
	Each time I capitulated in the past and went down the road you're asking me to go down, it was a mistake and didn't work out well for me or the forum.
	It inevitably ends up requiring that I start engaging in other areas to maintain the appearance of consistency.
	I'd rather err on the side of freedom by treating people like adults who don't need me preemptively deciding for them what they can see.
	The policing, banning, unpersoning that apparently occurs at LGAB goes way beyond the type of speech you reference in this message.
	Despite that, the people you claim would return to Belgab continue to post and engage there.
	This tells me they're happy with that environment, which blows up any notion that they're reasonable or in a position to dictate what should be permissible on this or any online communication medium.
	As far as Art being a good man, I prefer to say he was a top shelf radio host and leave it at that.
	Feel free to share this reply with anyone you like.
	Cheers.
	Liberace!
	Now, that first message that I received from this person, you heard it.
	It was rather polite.
	It seemed reasonable.
	It didn't really strike me as confrontational.
	Well, then this person sent another message asking me to reconsider.
	I ignored that message, didn't reply.
	I felt like I'd said everything I had to say.
	Then they sent another message asking me to reconsider, but that one included insults and aggressiveness and confrontational speech.
	And now we're down to the most recent private message that this person sent me.
	Hi, Liberace.
	LOL, you're Gabcast, you and your 10 Nazi posters.
	What a sick joke your forum has become.
	I wish you would take my original advice and get some decent people back here.
	Best wishes to you and your family.
	Crash into a bridge abutment.
	I don't want you posting here.
	I don't need you posting here.
	If everyone stopped using the forum right now, it wouldn't really necessarily affect my life too terribly much.
	Yeah, I guess I would miss some AdSense money, which, by the way, has been great since the forum came back up.
	I have been shocked by just exactly how much AdSense money the forum's making.
	It's probably making twice as much AdSense money now as it did when I originally shut AdSense off and went with the full donation model.
	It's been amazing.
	Well, Michael, there's some networks out there that don't even have any donations, let alone as many as you do.
	I'm rolling in the Benjamins.
	I just want to put that out there.
	So, no, there are certain people I don't want posting there.
	If your sensibilities are that I need to get into the business, look, I mean, it is assumed, is it not, that as we use this website, we're all adults and we can all decide for ourselves what it is we believe and what it is we're willing to subscribe to in terms of ideas that are presented to us in the course of human discourse.
	So, as adults, can we not just sort of parse that out ourselves and decide for ourselves what it is we want to be exposed to, what it is that we believe, what it is we don't believe.
	I think the most important thing here is not that certain ideas are restricted and prevented from appearing on the forum.
	The most important thing, I'm sorry, I inhaled some coffee.
	The most important thing is that people are allowed unfettered access to respond to those ideas that this individual doesn't like, this creature doesn't like.
	Now, if this were a forum where people are coming on here and posting things that this person finds to be racist or racially motivated or objectionable or socially unacceptable, and other users were not permitted to respond, in that case, yeah, I would be a douche for running that sort of an environment.
	But there's nothing impeding your ability as a user to respond to these ideas that you disagree with.
	And I think that it's a really dangerous road we're going down as a society where rather than allowing these horrible ideas, Nazism, racial identitarianism, all of these things, where we've decided that rather than allow them to be publicly presented and exposed and debated and for people to go around and round expressing their ideas, knocking ideas down, bringing up new things and figuring one another out,
	we've decided as a society that the best way forward instead is simply to curate public discourse and see to it that certain ideas that high-powered executives within corporate tech firms, we've decided to allow those people to determine for us what it is we are or are not allowed to be exposed to, rather than just letting the chips fall where they may and all of us deciding for ourselves as grown adults who are not virgins,
	at least most of us.
	Well, on Bell Gab, I don't know.
	That could be a higher percentage of virgins possibly.
	But you look at things like this synagogue shooting and various other assaults that are taking place publicly that are allegedly racially motivated or religiously motivated.
	I am firmly of the belief that preventing people from expressing their ideas freely and allowing those ideas to be exposed for what they are and debated by rational people, I believe that makes violence more likely to occur.
	And we're heading down a road as a society where things are going to get really dangerous if we keep doing this.
	All the major social media networks, Facebook, Twitter, you, I'm on like my sixth Twitter account, dude, and I don't even know what the previous five were banned for.
	I couldn't even begin to tell you.
	I have no idea.
	So I can only imagine if I were actually on there saying anything considered moderately socially unacceptable.
	I have no idea what I even said to get banned.
	So that's the road we're going down as a society.
	I'm not even saying anything necessarily provocative.
	So I can only imagine somebody who is saying something provocative, how quickly they're getting their wings clipped.
	And it's going beyond that.
	We have domain name registrars deciding that they are going to deny service to websites like gab.ai and simply force the domain name no longer to resolve to the website when you type it in your address bar in your browser.
	So it's, I mean, it's like we've got this censorship on these platforms, and then another platform arises in order to fill that void that exists because of that censorship.
	And then a higher authority decides that it's going to censor the uncensoring void filler.
	This is not good.
	If you're worried about people getting shot in the street because of what they look like or because of what religion they are or because of what they wear or because of how they part their hair, then you need to let people sit in their mom's basement in a dirty pair of underwear and a tank top with Tang next to them and post about their Nazi beliefs or whatever it is that they're into.
	And I don't know a single rational human being in my day-to-day life, actual human beings that I physically interact with.
	Very physically.
	No, not really.
	But I don't know a single human being in my day-to-day life that would stumble upon a post by some guy who's a Nazi and say, you know what?
	After 45 years of not being a Nazi, I was even married to a Jewish woman until she was hit by a school bus.
	I'm kind of thinking this Nazi thing might be for me because of Jackson 404, user Jackson 404, and this message he posted here.
	I don't know anyone who's going to react to that kind of information or those kinds of ideas that are being read on the internet in that fashion.
	Michael, I can't imagine that there's ever been a time that you had a profoundly heartfelt belief in one direction or another on any particular issue.
	and you saw some guy post a meme that was contrary to your opinion, and you said, you know what?
	I'm flipped.
	It's done.
	I'm on that guy's side now.
	I can't imagine you've ever done that.
	I'm offended.
	How so?
	No, I'm joking.
	Oh, okay.
	Have I converted you to a different belief system in some way?
	Oh, no, not at all.
	Not at all.
	And you're right about that.
	It seems that this sort of thing is happening all over the place, all over social media, on YouTube, my channel as well on YouTube, no longer monetized.
	Oh, that's great.
	Isn't that wonderful?
	Are you doing Patreon?
	Now I am, but I'm not really someone who really pushes it too hard.
	You should.
	What's your YouTube URL?
	Ah, shit.
	I don't even know it.
	You don't know that?
	Oh, my God.
	We're going to have to get you a PR marketing guy.
	You're going to have to get your ducks in a row here, buddy.
	We're going to have to.
	And, you know, I'm getting an email right now from Mr. Robert McGinnis.
	Who's that?
	Lieutenant Colonel Robert McGinnis.
	I actually have an interview to do in a few here.
	Well, I don't know Mr. McGinnis, but I would be interested to know his ideas on the person sending me these private messages.
	But it's just, you know, if you need that in order to post at Bell Gab, then you never understood Bell Gab.
	You never were a Bell Gabber.
	And I think it probably in the long run benefits the forum rather substantially that you're no longer there.
	Then again, maybe not, because those types of people, it is really fun to watch them getting triggered in the threads.
	And if they're gone, you can't watch them getting triggered.
	But I just don't understand why it is that on this internet thing that we have access to that for so many years has been the Wild West where all ideas are presented and they can be commented on freely without inhibition.
	Why it is that we've suddenly evolved into this place where, yeah, I understand that I shouldn't walk into someone's house and say, you bitch.
	You know, I shouldn't do that, but it's not the same context.
	I mean, it's not the same thing as doing that on the internet with people who you don't actually know and who don't actually know who you are in typed form.
	It's just not the same thing.
	But these people, they always go back to, hey, I wouldn't come into your living room and take a dump on your rug and expect you to get it.
	I hate that.
	That's a really silly argument.
	They always try to use that analogy.
	Well, those are the PC types, the NPC types as well.
	They like to go there, but that sort of notion of thinking is just wrong.
	And they're in the minority.
	I don't know why they want that.
	If you want to call in, the number is 573-837-4948.
	573-837-4948.
	I think in the back of their minds, they literally believe that there's going to be a pocket of Nazism or white supremacy or whatever racial identitarian movement you want to pick out there.
	There are plenty of them beyond white people, by the way.
	A lot of people don't seem to realize that.
	It's not just white people who are out there wearing robes.
	I mean, the others are probably not wearing robes, but it's all the same, you know, different sides of the same coin anyway.
	It really is.
	And, oh, go ahead.
	Sorry.
	No, no, I'll just, I will just keep talking forever if you don't shut me up.
	Go ahead.
	Well, I was going to take us back in time really quickly here since my guest is patiently waiting for me or sending me messages here.
	And I'll be completely honest with you, during the summer, around the time when I had last heard you, Michael, you interviewed Dave Schrader.
	And to be honest with you, I couldn't listen to it in its entirety, not at all.
	I was completely bored by Dave.
	Nice guy or not.
	I don't really want to listen to boring personality types, especially on audio.
	Don't lie to me, Michael.
	You knew that shit was getting boring.
	Well, I've never listened to it.
	I swear to God, the only times, there are only two times I've ever heard Dave Schrader.
	One was his interview about the Golden State Killer, and the other was when he was on this show.
	And it wasn't necessary.
	The fact that I haven't listened isn't directly tied to any negative feelings I have about Dave Schrader.
	Actually, I really like the guy.
	It's just that I'm not into that whole thing.
	Well, beyond that, I've already got, I listened to Limbaugh, I listened to No Agenda.
	I listened to Dick Morris.
	He does this thing on YouTube that I got a lot of crap to listen to throughout the day.
	Meanwhile, I got to run a business.
	I got to support my family.
	I got the local TV station coming to find out what I think about the issues of the day.
	And, you know, so my time is taken up.
	And so that is by far the primary reason I've never listened.
	I just don't have the time.
	But I will say that, and I said this directly to Dave when he was on this show.
	I said, Dave, listen, I think one of the mistakes you're making, if anyone asked, I know you're not soliciting my advice necessarily, but if anyone were to ask my advice, I would say something you need to do differently is be less accessible because by being so accessible, responding to every forum post, replying to every tweet, responding to every email, you're so accessible that you pretty much eliminate all the mystique associated with your persona.
	One of the things that Art did really well that may have seemed at the time to some people like a dick move was making himself so inaccessible.
	I mean, I'm sure Art read every email that was sent to him, every fax that was sent to him, but he didn't respond to very many of them at all.
	If you got a response from Art Bell, it was like, whoa, Daddy, staying back.
	And that's just it.
	See, if Dave Schrader responded to you, your response wouldn't be, oh, Daddy.
	None of that.
	You would just be like, okay, this gentleman who talks into a microphone on the internet.
	I just kept thinking, my God, poor Michael, he has to sit there and listen to this NPC warrior babble on.
	I felt it.
	I felt the struggle.
	But of course, I give you all the credit for having the courage to withstand that sort of abuse.
	Amazing.
	Well, I actually enjoyed the show.
	I mean, I don't know how it sounded to people who listened, but I really enjoyed having him on.
	And I thought it was a good show.
	It was a boar fest, was it?
	I have to be honest with you.
	Well, you know what?
	You did good, but I did my best.
	That's all I can do.
	I mean, I can't.
	Not everybody lacks charisma.
	He lacks everything that makes a fantastic personality, especially shine through the airwaves.
	He's not someone I'd be compelled enough to listen to.
	And I can't imagine it's going very well for Roland of the Latter-day Saints Digital Network.
	Is he really a Mormon, Keith Roland?
	Have to assume so.
	Why?
	Just the way his nature is.
	You just think he's Mormon-y.
	Yeah, I believe he is a follower of the children of the lie.
	So definitely.
	Well, let me ask you this.
	I mean, clearly you're not hip.
	You know, you're not into whatever it is they're doing over there on Dave Schrader's show on KeithRolandInk.com.
	All the above.
	So what is the origin of your feelings of negativity toward them?
	Because I think it's got to go beyond just Dave Schrader's personality or broadcasting prowess.
	I don't have any hate in my heart.
	I just think it's no, but there has to have been an event.
	What was the event?
	No, there isn't an event.
	It's just the simple fact that there's hacks out there that I think it's perfectly fine to go at them for no apparent reason, no motive.
	It's just funny to out people out.
	Myself, I don't hide behind any of that.
	I'd say bring it on, say whatever you want.
	I like that sort of thing.
	And if other people are bothered by that, that's not my fault.
	If you want to get offended with what I say to you, then you have issues.
	You know, something I've noticed, and I pointed this out on the forum several months ago, but your YouTube show is doing really well.
	I mean, you get a really surprisingly, not surprisingly in terms of, well, I can't imagine how this guy is getting a lot of views.
	I just mean, you know, you're just a regular guy like anybody else.
	And I go look at your YouTube channel and you're getting a shit ton of views over there.
	Is it what is it?
	What's the magic sauce?
	I mean, a lot of your videos, I see over 25,000 views, and I need to go find you right now so I can get a look at this.
	I think some people just like the program.
	That's not, that is not direct enough and detailed, nuanced enough, and an explanation.
	I need more.
	Well, I mean, there's people like that spooky, that hacky, spooky Tim guy.
	He stinks on ice and he can't even get 200 views on his YouTube page.
	He's awful.
	I must have gone soft or something over the years.
	I think in my older age, because I'm 39 now, I just turned 39.
	I think I'm getting soft because I'm listening to you and it's like the way you're talking is the way I probably would have talked about various people in the first year or so of Bell Gab, the first couple of years of Belgab.
	I think I got soft.
	Is it low T?
	Do I need to go see a doctor?
	It might be low T. I'm not quite sure.
	But yeah, you know, I just, I just can't stand anyone, to be honest with you.
	They all stink.
	Look at your John B. Wells interview, 48,000 views.
	Robert David Steele, 10,000.
	There's a lot of videos I deleted as well that had thousands of views.
	Marshall Masters, 17K.
	Right.
	You're doing really well.
	You should really keep going.
	Don't it's just like I think the biggest enemy of people doing this sort of internet broadcasting thing is just getting distracted for whatever.
	That's always been my enemy.
	Life always distracted me.
	And, you know, now I'm doing the night overnight DJ thing on classic KYMO 105.3.
	But that is not this.
	That is so not this.
	And here's another thing.
	I think it's all about, you know, trying to stay current.
	There's a lot of paranormal shows out there that are drowning in the sea of obscurity and they're all hacky as shit.
	You don't like any of them, do you?
	You're over the paranormal thing, aren't you?
	No, it's over.
	It's just the relics of yesteryear and fading away into obscurity every day.
	The past is the past and the future is now.
	And these various online networks and those big radio networks are always filled with the unscrupulous marauders.
	That never goes away.
	And I'm not quite sure what the future plans are for any of these networks out there.
	A lot of them can only attract maybe 1,000 views.
	And that includes Keith Rowland's network as well.
	It just stays there.
	And there's no growth.
	It's not 2005 anymore.
	It's not, well, it's not even 1999 anymore or 2005 anymore.
	No one really gives a shit about any of these topics.
	Life has moved forward.
	And these individuals, they cling to the past.
	You do have your finger on the pulse of something if you doing what you're doing are able to say, no, I'm not really interested in doing a paranormal show anymore because it is so over.
	And I feel like as I come across probably 90% of these paranormal people, I feel like as they do what they're doing, they are envisioning themselves sitting in a chair, smoking a cigarette with a boom microphone and a mustache with a cigarette hanging out of their mouth and two cats in the room with a ham radio rig next to them.
	They're all trying to be Art Bell.
	They all want to be the next Art Bell.
	And it just speaks to how little understanding they have of the lightning that was captured in a bottle that was Art Bell.
	And there's not going to be another.
	It's the, you're not the guy.
	You're not living in the same times.
	People don't have access to the same lack of information.
	It's just in this day and age, it just doesn't work.
	And I don't know, I'm not saying there shouldn't be any shows out there where people are talking about goblins and such, but I am saying that if you're doing that, there's nothing you are going to do or say on that show.
	And there's nothing your guests are going to say that hasn't been said before that's going to be new to me.
	And you're absolutely right on that.
	It's just the simple fact that times have moved forward and these people depend on some sort of network.
	But again, none of these networks ever reached 1,000 listeners ever.
	And if they do, it's just the same people.
	There's no growth.
	How do you even know those people are even going to donate any money to your program, to the network, to your show?
	Most of the time, these people aren't going to pay a cent.
	Someone told me that that Michael Vera network that Heather Wade does her show on had a fundraising drive, and they got one donor, and that was the person who started the Patreon.
	Yeah, I believe that would be true.
	I won't say who told me that, but that's what I was told from a rather reliable source.
	And that's the irony here.
	Belgab has probably gotten more donations since it came back online than that website has gotten over the course of the last six months.
	And we're not even directly shilling for donations.
	Yeah, the link's up there, but I've never once, ever on this podcast or on the forum asked people to donate.
	Not once.
	I don't have the little temperature meter.
	Oh my God, look over here, Frank.
	Someone donated $20.
	Look at the little red balls going up.
	I've never had one of those stupid, hacky temperature thermometer rising things to show everybody how much money's been given.
	We're not doing any of that crap.
	And I'll bet you, Belgab, this forum that was shut down for three months is doing far better than them on donations.
	That is embarrassing.
	Well, that's the truth.
	And paranormal radio is for the intellectually bankrupt and the unscrupulous.
	As I'm definitely throwing that out there because that's a fact.
	And these people will definitely have to wake up sooner or later and realize it's not 1999 anymore.
	Malachi Martini says, I will not miss Pony Boy Safe Space.
	The first bark cast was an abomination.
	God, the annoying lesbian, yeah.
	What a phony that chick turned out to be.
	She masquerades like, and, you know, I've heard that she's launched a couple direct salvos at me on her little thing she's doing over there, so I'll do the same.
	But she always masqueraded as if she's the cool chick who can hang with the guys and roll with the punches, but she is so not that at all.
	I mean, she's got a thin skin and she holds on to things.
	Someone came.
	First of all, this chick can't shut her face about being a dyke for more than two seconds.
	She puts, that's, I mean, there's not a conversation you're going to have with her where that doesn't become the focal point of the discussion.
	So inevitably, someone comes on Belgab and uses that as the vector through which they're going to troll her.
	And because of that, she quits Belgab.
	She goes to Twitter.
	She deletes her.
	She unfriends me, personally, me on Twitter as if I had a hand in that somehow, some way, for some reason.
	And then a few months later, she comes back to Belgab and pretends none of it happened and starts giving me advice on how to run Belgab.
	And I publicly said, well, since you're publicly offering me advice and publicly making it clear that you don't like the way I run it, let me publicly inform you of the fact that based on your emotional reactions to various stimuli, none of which you should have been surprised by because of how you present yourself to people, I don't think you're really in a position to say how anybody should be running this.
	And that was it.
	From that point forward, she had written me off.
	But, you know, if you're going to come on the forum and type little posts about, oh, this should be done differently and that should be done differently and pretend that you're having a private conversation as if I can't read what you're typing.
	I mean, that's the definition of passive aggression in my way of thinking.
	Well, you're just going to type public messages and pretend complaining about how the forums run and pretend I can't see that.
	So guess what?
	I'm going to respond publicly.
	And if I think you're, you know, effectively pretty much the same Heather Wade that you have railed against for the last three years, I'm not going to take your advice on how to run the forum.
	I mean, that chick has gone on and on about Heather Wade and all the things she hates about Heather Wade, but she is probably more like Heather Wade herself than just about anybody I have encountered over the course of using this forum.
	I mean, I can read her a mile away.
	I've so got her psychoanalyzed.
	I'm good at reading people.
	And when I see someone who's pretending they have a thick skin and they can roll with the punches and hang with the boys and be one of the cool kids and they're really not, I can pick up on that in two seconds flat.
	And I had her pegged a long time ago.
	So I'm not surprised by any of these events.
	You had her pegged.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, she fought me off.
	I will say that.
	I'll give her credit.
	She did maintain credibility in terms of how she has labeled herself.
	But so she.
	Well, that's the Keith Rowland-sponsored network, the safe gab, is what I like to recall.
	What I like to call it, rather.
	Just don't present yourself as one of the cool kids hanging with the boys when you're not.
	That's all.
	And if you feel compelled to sit and talk about who's cooking bacon and from what organic farmer's market they purchased that bacon, and that's pretty much the breadth and scope of what you think an internet web forum exists to discuss, then I don't know.
	I'm not going to be so broken up if you don't come back.
	Anyway, I don't think you're going to miss anything.
	No.
	Anyway, if you want to call in, the number's 57.
	Michael, do you need to go?
	In a few moments, I'm going to have to jet here.
	Well, I mean, I can cut you loose anytime.
	It's just totally up to you.
	If you need to go now, you can go now.
	If you want to hang a little bit, that's fine too.
	Yeah, I'll hang for a second.
	Okay.
	Oh, here.
	Go ahead.
	Let's see.
	I'm just looking at the there is no chat room.
	I said this at the beginning of the show.
	There's no chat room.
	So we're just asking that everybody go to Bell Gab and type their what effectively would be chat room messages in the Gabcast thread, which actually I kind of like that anyway.
	It's not as easy from my perspective doing this to read as a chat room would be.
	But it does cause the list of recent posts on the forum to just say Gabcast, Gabcast, Gabcast.
	So that's probably a good thing.
	But we will get that lined out eventually, I will tell you.
	So if you want to call in, the number is 573-837-4948.
	It's 573-837-4948.
	Evil Twin of Zen says periods are overrated.
	I would really like to know when Evil Twin of Zen posted that at 7.46 p.m. Central Time, what we were talking about, because I don't know.
	When is Jackstar calling him?
	That's all I care about.
	Oh, I'm glad you mentioned him because I specifically wanted to say, and I know Jackstar hates me, and that's okay.
	Does he really?
	Well, I don't know if he really does.
	He's got his shtick and his persona that he presents of himself.
	But deep down inside, I think he's a really good person.
	And I was really happy to see him come back.
	Now, as I'm saying this, I'm sure it will trigger him to go to the forum and again type that he hopes my children watch me die in a dumpster fire or that I die of S cancer.
	But, you know, he's got to maintain cred.
	You've got to maintain the persona.
	You can't have people softening you up out there.
	But when I saw Jackstar come back after Belgab came back up, I really felt solid about that.
	It just felt like, okay, you know, this will work out.
	It's going to feel right, you know.
	Just the atmosphere of the place.
	I feel like even though Jackstar has annoyed me many times in the past, which is his goal, which is fine, it just felt right to me that he was back on the forum.
	And also, I told you this privately, but thank you, Michael.
	When Belgab came back up, you got on the forum and you were posting a lot and just sort of seeding the forum with new posts and generating activity.
	You and Brig both.
	And that was nice of you.
	I know you didn't have to do that.
	Nobody asked you to do that.
	There was nothing in it for you necessarily.
	But I did appreciate that.
	And even though I told you publicly, I just want to say that here so that other people know that you did that too.
	What I'm saying is Michael Deakin saved Belgab.
	I'm Michael Van Devin.
	Have a good night, everybody.
	No.
	But yeah, that was cool of you.
	So thank you.
	And thank you to Bregg for doing that also.
	And I would like to thank Richard Greuper for his Nazi troll memes.
	Those got people going as well.
	And it's, oh my God.
	Malachi Martini posted a picture of this person adjusting their arms and their legs in a perfect swastika.
	And it really does look like a swastika.
	I think I saw that.
	Yeah, that's pretty good.
	Post number 18,027.
	Let's go down.
	Nucky Nolan says it's people to the right of Bernie Sanders who agree with the person who sent me those private messages.
	Frankly, an influx of comic cat ladies indeed would increase activity.
	I think it would increase activity.
	And I sort of miss it, as I said, because I just enjoy watching the trolling of these people occur, the triggering.
	Oh, that's my favorite part.
	Particularly now, maybe not so much in the past, but now when I see what certain people really are all about and what it was they really wanted Belgab to be all along, it would make me really happy to watch them trolled.
	K-Dub said, I am pretty sure.
	Go ahead.
	I was going to say, isn't it disgusting the way some of these individuals turned out?
	But then again, not surprised.
	Not surprised.
	I guess that was the catalyst behind people like Pony Boy Sunset getting on the forum and pissing about how it's run because Elgab and as it's run is exactly what they want the forum to be.
	So they now have the forum that they apparently always wanted, which in my estimation, I always hated message boards.
	Bellgab is the only message board I've ever used in my life because I always hated the way they were run, threads getting locked.
	I've never understood the premise, by the way, behind locking a thread.
	If somebody could explain that to me, why a thread should no longer be allowed to be posted, and I'd like to hear an explanation of that because I can't for the life of me figure it out.
	No, it's ran by an idiot over there.
	That's why.
	Well, I don't get it.
	The bannings, all of that crap, I've seen all of that crap on every single message board I've ever attempted to use, which is why I never had any use for any of them.
	It's the only forum I've ever used.
	So yeah, let's either change Belgab so that it runs exactly like every other pile of shit message board out there, or let's go create another message board that somehow in an abstract way approximates Belgab, but we'll run it like every other message board out there too and see how that goes.
	That sounds like a recipe for success to me.
	Godspeed.
	I don't understand the thought process behind that.
	I'm not saying that, let me be clear about this.
	I'm not saying if you use Elgab, I don't want you to come back to Belgab.
	Hell no, I would love everybody to start using Belgab again.
	Everybody, whether you like me, whether you like Belgab, whether I don't care at all.
	It doesn't make me any difference.
	I would like everybody to come back.
	But I do think that there are certain people who, because of what it is that their sensibilities apparently are, are long-term, kind of harmful to a forum like this.
	I don't think they have good ideas.
	I think that some of those people being gone long-term probably is a good thing.
	And I'm not going to get broken up about it.
	It is a good thing.
	And by the way, they want you to put over K-Dub.
	What do you mean?
	Walks that night made a post saying K-Dub robbed of glory by a deacon interruption.
	So he wants you to lick his ass a little bit.
	Let's see.
	K-Dub said, I am pretty sure that is fine Moroccan knitwear.
	What was he referring to?
	I have to go see.
	Oh, another poncho in the TV interview was shared with the fan.
	Oh, someone wants to know what the origin of the poncho I was wearing in the TV interview was and why I had it on.
	That is a coat.
	It's a hand-sewn coat.
	I've got like six of these things.
	And whenever I go to Morocco, I get a lot of them because they're extremely cheap.
	You can't buy anything like that here.
	And, well, you can buy things that sort of come close to it, but I'm telling you, it's just not the same.
	And that day, usually when the TV station comes here to interview me about something, it's very short notice because I don't think even when they go to work that day, they have any idea what they're going to do.
	So it's not usually until approaching noon that they have some idea that they even would want to talk to me.
	So they'll call me and want to be here within just a couple of hours.
	I don't have time to go home and make myself in any way presentable for TV or any of that.
	I'm already at work.
	I'm already committed to whatever I'm wearing.
	And the shirt I was wearing that day was such an abomination.
	It was such a train wreck that I just didn't want to, I didn't want that to be what I was wearing.
	So I thought, you know what?
	I'm just going to wear this.
	But I didn't know that like what they should have done is just had me standing up and filmed me that way.
	That was kind of a weird shot.
	Just the whole everything about it.
	Here's a man in a poncho sitting on a chair in front of a workbench.
	Let's hear what he has to say.
	That was the whole thing about it was just sort of weird, but that was why I just didn't like the shirt that I was wearing.
	That's all.
	It wasn't so bad.
	And by the way, Michael, I have to regretfully end this call here.
	I have to exit.
	It is regretful.
	Yeah, Robert McGannis is waiting for me, and I don't think I'm going to go too long.
	So if you stay on here, I'll make a return.
	Well, I'm probably going to be here for as long as I can go.
	If people don't call in, then I'm probably going to wrap it up pretty soon because, you know, it's a little self-indulgent just to sit here fishing for things to free associate about into a microphone for the next hour, hour and 15 minutes or so.
	But you know what?
	Check out what's happening over here when you're done with what you're doing.
	And if we're still going, drop in.
	Why not?
	Jump back in.
	So thank you for giving me this opportunity to shine a bit here.
	And hopefully I'll make my return.
	Quickly, by the way, have you and Daniel made up?
	Well, I told him I was sorry.
	He was the one that was obviously broken up by the whole thing.
	I have no hate for anyone out there, even the people that dislike me.
	It's nothing personal.
	I don't see any of this as something personal.
	I have no opinion, no anger, no emotion.
	It's all good with me.
	Once I saw that he was broken, I'm actually the one that had to apologize to him because I felt bad for him, seeing that he was in such a fallen state.
	So, in other words, you guys are still at odds.
	Okay.
	So, I mean, I don't have any issues with anyone, but I don't have an issue with telling anyone to go fuck themselves either.
	Ooh, salty.
	You know, I'll take on any comers.
	And when I return, hopefully, there'll be people I could put in their place.
	K-Dub says he's not sure whether my coat I was wearing is an upgrade from Cambodian or not.
	That's a great cut.
	I've got a lot of those.
	You know what?
	I may have to, just as a prize, you could have an actual Liberace Moroccan poncho shipped to you, sort of in the vein of White Crow, but something you would actually want to own and wear, as opposed to the White Crow issue stuff.
	I don't know what that logo is on that hoodie, and I don't know how I would explain that to somebody if I were wearing that.
	Well, let me take you back in time.
	Oh my God.
	Trying to explain Belgab to somebody and then trying to explain that hoodie, which is a far, far, far southern subset of Belgab and the explanation process.
	I wouldn't want to have to bother myself with that.
	That's too much work.
	Well, Michael, I must bell out.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	It's an honor to be here, and I'll return shortly.
	Okay, buddy.
	I hope you have a good show and Godspeed.
	573-837-4948, if you want to call in.
	CatSmile says Belgab is hashtag rolling in the cash.
	He's got a dollar bill there with my picture, that of Liberace.
	The cat Nazi with his arm up in the air.
	That's cute.
	Okay.
	So anyway, no, I'm not going to, I will not stop yelling at you.
	Who's it?
	That's just what I do.
	I'm animated.
	I could do the NPR thing.
	And now, on the Gabcast, we are going to talk to you about an important issue that all of us have some stake in.
	A disease called stepliopymiacoccus.
	No, I'm not going to do that.
	So I'm not going to give an explanation as to why Belgab went down because that's for me.
	That's just, you know, that's for me.
	Hopefully, anyone who is upset or was upset about the fact that the forum went down can simply appreciate the fact that it's back and enjoy it.
	Otherwise, there's nothing more I can do about that.
	What happened happened, and the forum's back, though.
	Nucky Nolan says it's just a matter of time that the SPLC targets Belgab.
	The First Amendment thing is just for show.
	I agree with that.
	Although Belgab is not really the kind of player that the SPLC is going to bother going after because it's not big enough.
	If there were enough people, I suspect it would.
	But the SPLC has its own problems.
	They've been accusing people of being racial identitarians when they are, in fact, black Muslims.
	I mean, and getting sued for defamation as a result.
	I think there was a black Muslim guy that they accused of being a white supremacist.
	And they went out and tarred and feathered this guy publicly.
	That's what the SPLC exists for the purpose of doing these days.
	They're not interested in pursuing racial injustice, like real racial injustice.
	We're talking about black guy can't buy a pair of pants in a store.
	Real racial injustice.
	They're no longer interested in that.
	No, they're interested in being the gatekeeper.
	They are interested in being the arbiter of what is and is not considered acceptable speech.
	Who enshrined them with this power?
	I don't know, but they seem to have it because now if you look at organizations like Facebook and Twitter, they are actively turning to organizations like the SPLC in order to determine what is considered acceptable and unacceptable content on social media platforms.
	And I have no idea who gave them that power.
	If Belgab were big enough, if it were mainstream in any way, if it were a household name, I think if we could just sell enough coffee mugs, Belgab perhaps could be well on its way to being a household name.
	But I just can't get the artists who have the skills rounded up to design the logos and whatnot that are necessary for that.
	But if we could just sell enough coffee mugs, I think Bell Gab could be big enough for the SPLC to pursue us.
	But I don't really know what their angle of attack would be.
	I suppose they could go after the AdSense somehow.
	I think that would probably get it, but that wouldn't take the forum down.
	And then what could they go after?
	The domain name registrar, which the domain name registrar is a Canadian company, and freedom of speech has been dead in Canada so long.
	I've been hearing about comedians getting criminally charged for things that they say on their sets for about a decade now in Canada.
	American comedians going to Canada and having criminal charges leveled against them because of something that they've said in the course of doing their act in front of drunk people in a club.
	So yeah, clearly, when you're standing in front of a crowd of people, half of whom have pissed their pants, the other half of whom will be vomiting in the floorboard of a Volkswagen within about 45 minutes, clearly that's where the government needs to step in and make sure you don't say anything raunchy.
	So freedom of speech has been dead in Canada for quite some time.
	And I do from time to time wonder if I should perhaps, because that's the key to the castle, the domain name registrar.
	You can have a hosting account until you're blue in the face, but if you don't have a domain name registrar that's willing to allow you to point your domain name to that host, the domain name is garbage at that point.
	And so what do you have to do?
	Well, you would have to have people visit your website by typing the actual IP address of the server that it resides on.
	I don't think, I don't know if that's going to work.
	Yes, bellgab.com.
	We have rebranded to 28.66.33.121.
	Come hang out with us.
	Come hang out.
	What are you doing tonight?
	Oh, I'm hanging out on 121.
	What do you think, Omi?
	It becomes like a slang thing.
	I'm a 121er.
	How's it going, baby?
	You know, it's just, no, I don't, it doesn't really roll off the tongue.
	I'm just looking at the thread here, the GabCast thread.
	Brig says, look up Salesforce.
	There are a couple of vids about it in my Styx thread.
	It's a platform used by social media like Facebook and Twitch in addition to other things.
	Okay.
	I don't know what Salesforce is.
	By the way, Brig, if you want to call in, you can call in.
	You're going to want to do it.
	If you want to, Brig, if you want to call in on Skype, you don't need to call the phone number.
	You can just go to your Skype and look up ufoship.com and add that contact.
	And that's what you can call in on.
	Let's say.
	I'm just scrolling through the thread here.
	Pardon me.
	It's see, this is not really the best mechanism for doing this because a chat room, it just keeps going.
	You can just look up, glance, go back to whatever you're thinking about or whatever you're talking about.
	But this, I actually have to scroll through a bunch of pictures and crap.
	And so I'm like, okay, the posts I'm currently looking at were submitted at 7.56 p.m.
	So I'm so behind on that at this point anyway.
	It's pathetic.
	Hi, Brig.
	Oh, there you are.
	I got you on the right channel.
	How you doing, babe?
	It's good to talk to you.
	Oh, I love you, man.
	Oh, I love you too.
	And you know, Breg and I, we talk just about every day.
	She's on Voxer as well.
	And I think Brig and I have a real friendship.
	In fact, Brig, a lot of people don't know, but, well, nobody knows.
	But I'm going to drive to your town.
	I don't know if you want to say where you live or not, but I'm going to drive.
	That's okay.
	I'm going to drive to Niagara Falls next summer, and we are going to have a multi-day get-together.
	I will be sleeping in Brig's bedroom, but it's going to be on the floor.
	So there's nothing anybody needs to worry about.
	She'll be totally safe.
	But we're going to have a nice multi-day Belgab get together, and we're going to go over some of the Belgab memorabilia you've acquired over the years.
	We're going to film a nice long video where we go through each item and discuss sort of its origins and the backstories behind it.
	It's going to be, I think, a multi-I could see this being like a two-hour video.
	We're going to have to film it over the course of days, I think, but we will edit it artfully together and make it.
	And you can teach me how to do all that when you're here.
	No, there will be no teaching.
	I'm just there to party and chill, homie.
	All right.
	Whatever you want to do, Envy, whatever makes you happy.
	So, Brig, I told Michael the same thing.
	Thank you for helping seed Belgab with posts when it came back online.
	You did such a great job that people over at Elgab were actually, oh, by the way, did you know that the people who do that podcast over there are not allowed to say the word bell or they are either not allowed to or they choose not to say the word bell gab on their podcast.
	Now, that's why that is the primary reason why I say Pony Boy Sunset is everything she claims to hate.
	She's been railing against Heather Wade all this time for those types of reasons, and now she can't even say Belgab on a podcast.
	What's wrong with people?
	Well, if that's not censorship, I don't know what is.
	I'm sorry, I was vaping.
	I said if that's not censorship.
	Well, I heard you.
	I heard you.
	I just wasn't ready to talk.
	That's all right.
	Take your time, MV.
	So, anyway, Brig, we're going to go visit the falls.
	We're going to go have a pizza.
	We're going to go have some coffee.
	Yeah.
	I'm going to have a friend of mine with me.
	We're all going to have a great time.
	We are.
	It's going to be so much fun.
	And you'll want to move your family up here.
	I don't know about that.
	I don't like cold weather.
	I know.
	There is that part.
	I mean, that's not to say it doesn't get cold here in Cape Girarda, Missouri in the winter, but it's, you know, your brand of cold up there is something that goes far beyond anything we experience here.
	I know.
	I can't be one of these.
	I got to go get bread and milk.
	I got to go get bread and milk.
	I got to go get bread and milk and just freaking out as I look at the weather forecast.
	I don't want to have to become one of those guys.
	And I think I would if I were to live where you do.
	Well, everything is in walking distance for me because I planned it that way.
	And we don't get the winters that Buffalo gets.
	We don't get those five feet of snow.
	Even though we're 30 miles north of Buffalo, the winds that come from Lake Erie and Lake Ontario keep the snow south of us.
	We are north of the snow belt, so we just get ice and we get wind.
	But we don't get much by way of snow in the winter.
	You know, Brig, I hope I'm not outing you with this.
	It's okay.
	But help me.
	You know, you and I have directly talked about this, but it's just the, it's hilarious, the juxtaposition.
	You hear your voice and you sound like this sweet little retired woman just, you know, getting up in the morning, having her cup of coffee, reading the news sites.
	And I'm a bitch.
	I know.
	No, no, no.
	Well, people are talking.
	I will concede that.
	But no, that's not what I was going to say.
	I like to be a bitch.
	What I was going to say is it's that juxtaposition of how you sound relative to the fact that you are actually one of Belgab's biggest trolls.
	And I thought I mentioned this to you one night when we were talking.
	You know, most people who, let's say, there's someone who owns a forum and there's a particular user who happens to be one of the biggest trolls on that forum.
	That owner of that forum should by default hate that person and not want anything to do.
	Oh, you're screwing up my community.
	You know, that whole attitude.
	I like to do that.
	But you and I, we talk every day.
	We have a good old time.
	We ham it up.
	We're just yucking and yucking at everything.
	I mean, you're trolling people on my website.
	I love it.
	You're great.
	We laugh.
	I like to make people mad.
	Yeah, Brig sends me messages in the morning, says, Google who I made mad.
	Listen to her.
	Like that laugh right there.
	Okay, that was kind of a trollish laugh.
	I could hear the trollism within you come out in that laugh.
	Your facade fell apart.
	Yes.
	But overall, you know, it's just a really funny, it's a really funny juxtaposition.
	I want to see how many times I can say the word juxtaposition in the course of this broadcast.
	Well, that's like people say irrelevant all the time.
	Really amuses me.
	By the way, if you hear me making noise or coughing or whatever, that's because when I use my cough button, you can't hear it or you can hear it, but the audience can't.
	Oh, that's all right.
	That's why I use my mute button too, because you never know when a fire engine is going to pull up here or an ambulance.
	So I like to have my headphones on and my mute button handy.
	Are your neighbors dying?
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, don't tell me that, Brig.
	I don't want to get any phone calls about you.
	I really don't.
	Let me ask you this, Brig.
	If you die, how am I going to find out?
	Is there like a kill switch in place so that if you don't push a button every 24 hours, I can get a text or something?
	I would say if I don't post on Bellgab in 24 hours.
	Yeah.
	But hey, you know what?
	I'll figure out somebody to call you.
	How's that?
	You know what?
	Please actually do that.
	Yes.
	Right here, we've made arrangements on a publicly accessible broadcast for a human being to contact another human being in the event of death.
	I will.
	And then you can have everybody post E-ORs for me on Bell Gab.
	I think if you died and I found out about it, but nobody else knew, I would probably just start posting on Bellgab in your name, but I would start posting really uncharacteristically vile things, just totally besmirching your credibility and your legacy.
	Hashtag legacy.
	I would love that.
	I know you would.
	That's why I would do it.
	Oh, that would be awesome, MV.
	That would keep me alive forever.
	There's just something instinctively inside me that knew you would, in fact, like that.
	So if you die, yes, I will start posting questionable imagery in Briggs' name on Bellgab.
	I don't know how long I'll keep that a secret for, but.
	Well, thank you, MV.
	Post lots of stuff that's, you know, repulsive in that time.
	You know, it won't be the same stuff that's repulsive now.
	But, you know, you'll keep me current.
	I have confidence in you.
	Well, that was your first mistake, Brig.
	That was your first mistake.
	You saw the fact I didn't even get a chat room together.
	I did no show prep.
	I like the thread.
	But you have no, but you have confidence in me.
	I think it's poorly placed.
	I will say that.
	I like the thread.
	Okay, Brig.
	Thanks, babe.
	All right, hon. You have a good night.
	You too, dear.
	Okay.
	That's Brig of Bellgab.com.
	I got a call coming in.
	I don't know what channel it's on, though.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hey, MB.
	How are you doing, boy?
	I'm doing good, buddy.
	How's it going on your end?
	Who is this?
	This is Gravity.
	Oh, my God, my nemesis.
	You're nemesis.
	I'm your nemesis.
	Oh, my God.
	I thought you were more famous than that.
	So you were a little butthurt when Belgab went down.
	I mean, I think that is the appropriate word to use, is it not?
	Butthurt?
	I don't know.
	Well, I mean, you do know.
	I mean, you know how you felt, and you know some of the things that you said over at Elgab.
	I mean, I was lost.
	Say that again?
	I was lost.
	Oh, so actually, the extent to which you were lost and your commentary as a result of it was not necessarily so much of an insult to me, but a compliment to me and the product that I had founded that you had become so accustomed to having as a part of your life.
	And it being gone did affect you.
	I think addicted is more than accustomed.
	Well, I think I posted something on Bellgab to the effect of you should crash into a bridge abutment or something, but I would like to take that back.
	I didn't see that.
	I think that's what I said.
	Either you should crash into aone posted something on Bellgab that you had said on Elgab, and I don't even remember what it was.
	And I just thought, what's the most heinous thing I can say?
	So that was what I went.
	I would now like to retract that.
	I hope Gravity Sucks continues forward with zero automobile fatalities.
	Go ahead, sir.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, I was kind of surprised when I went back on there and looked, and my post was the last post before you shut it down.
	Oh, it was not.
	Stop it.
	It was, too.
	You go look on January, July 4th.
	My post is the last one posted on July 4th.
	And so did you, I'm sure you took a screen cap of that, did you?
	No, I didn't.
	Just for posterity, posterity, so that you could pass that, print that and pass it along to your kids and whatnot.
	Listen, whatever anybody tells you about your daddy, I just want you to know before I leave this mortal coil, I had the last post on Belgab before the big shutdown of 2018.
	And I am still the only person to get a Wikipedia entry point to Belgab.
	I keep hacking and coughing here.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't know.
	I have a cough.
	Well, I just pop myself down.
	I don't really have a cough button, but I think you can hear me cough while the audience can't.
	So, audience, I heard him cough.
	Okay, well, I'm sorry it's distracting to you.
	I'm sure there's nothing I can do about it.
	My mixer is inadequate.
	So, I just happened to find a cell phone signal out here in the middle of the woods, and I heard Brig on the air when I called in.
	And I mean, when I looked on Belgab, I saw you had the Gabcast going.
	I heard Brig talking.
	I just called in to say hi.
	Well, you know, I just adjusted your EQ so you sound about a thousand percent better.
	And I am glad you called in to say hi.
	And I would like you to see, I would like to see you continuing to use Belgab, as I would everybody.
	But at the same time, I would like to see you and everybody else using Bellgab in a way that doesn't prompt them to.
	I would just like to see people using Bellgab without demanding that Belgab change or become something that it never was.
	I didn't make any demands on Belgab changing.
	I didn't make any demands on Belgab changes, either one.
	I mean, I think, I mean, they both had their place.
	I mean, if people want to, I just, I can only spend so much time on a forum.
	That's a lot of time, though, baby.
	You're like, I can only spend 23 hours and 48 minutes per day on a forum.
	I don't know what kind of I don't know what kind of time you guys think I have here.
	Right, that's right.
	I did spend a lot of time on Bellgab, didn't I?
	Yeah, hell yeah, you did.
	You were on there a lot.
	Well, I'm actually, I'm glad I was actually still mad at you just before, like, as my finger was coming down to click the button to bring your call on, I was still mad at you, but now I'm not.
	See how that works?
	I'm just so easy to turn around, just like that.
	And I'm sorry I said I hope you crash into a bridge abutment.
	I don't mean that.
	Man, there's a bunch of bridge abutments between my property and my home.
	So, you know, this wasn't necessarily an unfounded desire on my part.
	This could have materialized.
	I would have actually, I would have felt a modicum of sorrow and guilt had it occurred.
	But then again, just like Brig, how would I have known?
	You know, I doubt your family is going to, oh, I got to call the owner of Bell Gab.
	Let him know Uncle died.
	Brigg will call you.
	How would Brig know?
	Do you guys have that level of communication?
	No, I just teased him.
	Okay.
	I thought you were utterly and completely serious.
	Now I'm set straight.
	Well, I'll see you around Belgab.
	And hopefully, at least, I mean, that's up to you, of course, but it would be nice to see you.
	I pop in there.
	I've made a couple of comments since you brought it back up.
	But I mean, there's some conversations that I just don't bother getting part of, and other ones I do.
	Yeah, generally when they focus on bacon or cups of coffee, I don't usually get into those.
	What are your tastes?
	Yeah, the bacon.
	I like bacon, but I mean, all that stuff about fighting back and forth between the two forums about who's posting on what.
	I don't get into those discussions at all on either forum.
	Well, I hope Elgab doesn't go anywhere because I do feel like it serves as sort of an escape hatch, a release valve for certain personalities that I wasn't terribly sorry to see didn't return.
	All those unwashed cat ladies.
	Well, there are other people who aren't necessarily cat ladies who do purportedly, supposedly have a penis.
	Yeah, it's not all old ladies that I'm talking about.
	I mean, there are certainly people that I'm not sorry to see I won't be interacting with on a regular basis.
	But at the same time, there are also people who apparently are not going to return that I will miss.
	And that's unfortunate, but, you know, it's not their problem that I shut the forum down for three months.
	You know, they wanted to go somewhere else, and then they got caught up in the inertia, the momentum of doing whatever they're doing over there, and they just kind of stuck with it.
	I can understand that.
	That's fine.
	But if anyone thinks I'm sitting around, oh, dear God, I'm going to check and see if they shut it down today because, baby, it's going to be a come to Jesus moment.
	No, I hope it stays up.
	I think it's fun watching people on Belgab comment on what's happening over there freely and openly and watching them try to comment on what's happening on Belgab without saying Belgab.
	I think that's a hoot.
	So how are you doing, Brigg?
	I'm sorry, are you driving through a 10 can right now?
	Because I didn't hear what you just said.
	I said, how's Brig doing?
	I was asking Brig how she was doing.
	Oh, I've disconnected Brig.
	She's no longer a part of the broadcast.
	Oh, okay.
	I got to talk to you.
	Well, that's it.
	It's not good enough for you.
	You need something more.
	This is unsatisfactory.
	You were hoping for something else?
	We always want more, MD.
	We always want more.
	Well, I think I personally, I like me.
	My wife likes me.
	My customers like me because I'm the genuine article.
	I'm the real thing.
	What you see is what you get.
	How's your band doing?
	Oh, pretty good.
	We've got a gig coming up at a place called Ragsdales here in Cape Girardeau on the 17th of November.
	And this is a bar that is not open every night.
	It's only open for special events.
	So I guess we are the special event.
	And so you can check that out.
	I mean, if you happen to be in the area, just don't go Mark David Chapman on me if you come meet me, please.
	I could do without that.
	But if you'd like to show up and check us out, we'll be playing for about three or four hours.
	I have these really nice electronic drums that I'm going to be playing.
	And unlike most bands, God, that ought to get it.
	Unlike most bands where they have drums, just like acoustic drums that are exceedingly loud, you can't really control the sound from them unless you get one of those plexiglass screens like every Pentecostal church that's ever existed in this universe has.
	You can't really control the sound from them.
	And so everybody turns up to compete with the drums.
	The bass turns up to compete with the drums.
	And the guitar turns up to compete with the bass.
	Then the bass turns up to compete with the guitar.
	Then the drummer starts playing louder.
	Then the singer asks the board operator to turn him up.
	And the next thing you know, you're going to be calling in the glass company to replace Paynes the next day.
	And people are going to be leaving with perforated eardrums.
	It doesn't work out too well.
	But I have electronic drums.
	They're really nice.
	Elisa Strike, if you want to check those out.
	If you've ever thought about getting a set of electronic drums, Elisa Strike, you can spend about $1,700 and you can have something on the order of what Roland would probably charge you $4,000 for.
	It's something quite amazing.
	I think you posted a picture of a like model that you're recommending to somebody on there.
	I did.
	Yep, that's exactly it.
	Those are sweet.
	And the nice thing about that is everybody can, every instrument on the stage can go through the PA speakers.
	Instead of there being this, everyone's in the PA speakers except for this one acoustic instrument that's blasting everybody's face off.
	Everything can be perfectly controlled.
	It's just going to sound so great.
	I'm so excited.
	But that's a place called Ragsdales here in Cape Girardeau, Missouri, the 17th of November.
	If you want to make a road trip, come hang out and say hi.
	You'll be able to meet actual Liberace in the flesh.
	He's not dead of AIDS yet.
	This version of Liberace only has moderate to light AIDS.
	Are you going to be selling white crow hoodies there?
	Well, I'm hoping that he'll show up in his camper and sneak out the back of the camper while his wife's not looking to sell the hoodies because, again, she's not supposed to know.
	I'll tell you, the miracles of modern technology, if you can see me right now, I'm in a ditch across the street from my, across the road from my property next to a barbed wire fence.
	It's the only place on this whole road.
	There's like a 10-foot circle that gets an LTE signal.
	Really?
	There's no place else I can get cell phone services except in this ditch in about a 10-foot circle.
	I'm just standing there under the Milky Way right now, talking and talking to Libera.
	I'm just imagining what a creep you must have looked like out there trying to ascertain where the sweet spot is for five days straight.
	People are like, look, honey, there's that guy out there again.
	Isn't he like over 50 years old?
	What is he doing out there?
	He's holding his phone up, but he's not talking on it.
	He's just walking.
	I think we need to buy him some dousing rods.
	I think that's what he's doing out there.
	He just doesn't know he would rather have dousing rods.
	He hasn't used them.
	Golly, you must have really looked like some sort of a freak out there trying to find the sweet spot.
	Good grief.
	How long did that take you to determine?
	Nine years.
	Okay, see.
	Well, you know what?
	Hopefully people were bringing you food, water.
	If you've ever watched a Senate filibuster, a nice adult diaper can help.
	There's something about the iPhone.
	It seems like when you first turn it from airplane mode onto searching mode, when you activate the cell, it gets extra power for a second.
	So I can't turn the phone on until I get to this spot.
	If I get to the spot and then turn the cell signal on, then it'll connect to LTE.
	Otherwise, it won't.
	I can't turn it on on my property and then walk here.
	It's pretty bizarre, actually.
	It's like this portal.
	Maybe it's angels.
	I don't know.
	Well, you'll see similar behavior like when you're traveling around with your phone and you're in a weak area that just doesn't support LTE, but you can at least do SMS and voice.
	But you know there's LTE there.
	It's just for whatever reason your phone won't click over to it.
	And so you actually shut the phone down and restart it.
	And when it comes back on, it'll actually connect to the LTE network in most cases.
	I think the similar thing, the actual explanation as to why that happens, I can't provide.
	But I think something similar happened to you there.
	Yeah.
	So your girls doing okay?
	Oh, they're great.
	Six and three.
	They're just, I have such amazing DNA.
	I mean, they're just the cutest little things.
	They're so smart.
	My little six-year-old, she missed her start in kindergarten last year by two weeks.
	She was two weeks too young to start kindergarten.
	So now she's started kindergarten this year, and she's one of the, I think, one of the oldest students in her class.
	But I went to her first parent-teacher conference the other day and just listened to her teacher brag about her and talk about how much she loves her and all the she only had to know three letters going in.
	She knew all of them.
	She only had to be able to count to 20.
	She could count to 10 gazillion.
	No, she could count to 100.
	I mean, I really have amazing DNA.
	And I'm thinking that if the donation mechanism or the AdSense mechanism fail to properly fund Bellgab going forward, I could potentially look at the DNA donation route.
	I could, you know, if you want to have a super child, Van Devon Enterprises, we've got our tentacles on everything.
	I think your wife has something to do with that DNA.
	Well, she was a bit player.
	She was there, but, you know, I think she was reading a newspaper.
	No, she was reading Newsweek.
	That's what it was.
	So, you know, with that level of involvement, I'm not sure how much credit she can take.
	But I just want everybody to know that the gene pool here at Van Devin Enterprises is producing super children, the likes of which you would never believe.
	And that was Gravity Sucks who just called in.
	I really appreciate that.
	And I, again, don't want you to die in a fiery crash underneath an overpass.
	You know what?
	I think I just got a little caught up in the moment.
	If you'd like to be on the show, the number to call 573-837-4948.
	It's 573-837-4948.
	I'm going to go ahead and place an outbound call here because I see somebody that tried to call in a moment ago.
	I wasn't able to answer.
	I haven't spoken to this person in a long time.
	And I know this person would be happy to talk if I'm, in fact, able to get her on the phone.
	Hi there.
	Oh, hello.
	It's Storm Mountain.
	Well, hello.
	I didn't know you were going to call me.
	Well, I did.
	So how about them, apples?
	How about them, apples?
	Them bacon.
	I haven't talked to you.
	Yeah.
	Are you one of the bacon posters over at L Gab?
	Are you into the bacon and coffee?
	I've been baking postings.
	Post-ins?
	I've been posting bacon since long before El Gab.
	So, yeah, I'm a bacon poster.
	Okay, well, I'll forgive that.
	Oh, you don't have to.
	I'll bring you a nice bacon burger.
	Okay, I don't forgive it.
	And I have a word or two I'd like to throw your way once this broadcast is over.
	Well, bring it on.
	Well, I haven't spoken to you since I remotely worked on your computer.
	You know how involved I directly am with some of these people on Bell Gab?
	It's like I'm just sort of a hub that everybody's going through.
	I'm fixing this person's computer.
	I'm chatting this person up in the morning.
	I swear to God, sometimes Brig is the first person that I end up talking to in the morning.
	I mean, it's just many years ago on a Gabcast, you told me I was like family, and I've never forgotten that.
	So I've always had your back.
	I've always been behind you.
	Well, I'm sorry I no longer feel that way.
	We have to have at least two conversations per week in order for me to feel that way.
	But you could build that back up with time.
	I am here.
	Star Mountain's going to hang up her Skype call after this and just cry into a pillow because I told her that I no longer feel that way, honey.
	No, I'm kidding.
	You are a sweet lady, and I do appreciate the fact that you've been around for so long.
	And it's good to see you around again.
	And I'm kind of curious what it was that prompted you to attempt to call in earlier.
	I attempted to call in.
	Yeah.
	I even got an IM on Skype that says, Liberace, this is Star Mountain.
	I'm trying to call in, but I can't get through.
	Something seems wrong, and I've begun to believe you don't want me on the show.
	Thoughts?
	Well, I typed in and said, is this the Skype you call in on?
	I didn't want to hit the call button until I had the right Skype number.
	I just made up the rest of that.
	I made all that up.
	That didn't happen at all.
	What's odd, though, is you weren't sure if I was lying or not.
	Well, I thought you might have been confused.
	I didn't see you.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, I am getting older.
	And I am getting concerned.
	I am starting to forget things.
	I looked in the mirror the other day.
	The amount of gray hair, it's starting to really worry.
	I'm getting a little bit worried.
	My hair is getting darker.
	I don't know what's up with that.
	I know.
	I have a couple of gray flashes along the temples.
	It looks really cool.
	It's like I streaked it intentionally.
	And the rest of my hair is getting darker.
	What's up with that?
	I have no idea.
	Richard Greuper in the Gabcast thread says, Dave Schrader got mad at me because his wife was talking to me about butt play unsolicited.
	I don't think that's true.
	I have my doubts as to whether that actually happened.
	Butt play or butt play?
	Butt play.
	I don't think that actually happened.
	I don't think it happened either, but what about it?
	Dave's wife seems like Dave's wife seems like such a nice girl.
	He's a lucky guy.
	I think, well, I know I've talked to her at least once during the Gabcast, but it seems like I talked to her one other time, and she's a really nice girl.
	Dave Schrader's really lucky, but she's like, she's quite a bit younger than him, too, isn't she?
	Probably so what?
	Well, I think that that's, I think there should be a law against that.
	That's all I'm trying to say.
	Well, if she were under 18, I'd be concerned, but she's not.
	Maybe it should be a requirement.
	Maybe we should go the other direction.
	There should be a requirement that there's at least a 15-year difference in age in married spouses.
	That would shake things up a little bit, wouldn't it?
	Well, wait a minute.
	You're all for the freedom of love and opinion.
	My three things that concern me are mutually consenting adults.
	Anything after that is none of my business.
	My only concern is breast size because I love ladies.
	I'm Liberace.
	Oh, I saw your photo.
	My goodness.
	I mean, that poor woman, how could she carry those?
	People are coming in saying I don't like women and stuff.
	And I try to tell them, Sonia Henney and I, we really just went around and around.
	We had a whirlwind romance.
	And I try to make sure everyone understands that because I don't want bad things being said about me in public.
	I really love chicks and their boobs and butts and stuff.
	I'm Liberace.
	I thought you were doing the you almost have it.
	But remember, I'm of an age, I remember my mom watching Liberace when he was live in the afternoon.
	He's a hell of a musician, you know.
	You know something?
	I saw an interview shortly after Liberace died on Larry King where Larry King goes, So really, Liberace wasn't that great a piano player, was he?
	And someone came in and was like, What are you talking about, you stupid old man?
	You skeletal-looking thing with suspenders that should have been dead 20 years ago?
	What are you talking about?
	Wasn't a very good piano player.
	I don't know.
	How am I not a millionaire in broadcasting, but Larry King has not been without a show in 45 years after your show is done?
	I'm going to go to YouTube, see if I can find an old clip of the Liberace show, or at least of him playing in public because he was amazing.
	Regardless of his flair.
	His flare was great, by the way.
	But regardless of that, he was an accomplished pianist, and he very professional.
	Well, I just said it.
	Really cool.
	See, I thought he was just sort of moonlighting as a piano player.
	I didn't know he was professional.
	I thought he was working the Target during the day.
	He can play honky-tonk, classic piano, everything.
	He did it all.
	I'm Liberace.
	He did play a variety on his show.
	He would do honky-tonk.
	He would do classic piano.
	He would do middle of the road.
	He would do rock of the time.
	And if you notice, his hairstyle looks well.
	The hairstyles like from Elvis Presley in that era kind of copied him because he was like before Presley.
	And if you look at the similarities, they were copying Liberace's hairstyle and kind of making it a little different, but not much.
	I'm Liberace.
	Hi.
	I was the first person on television to look directly into the camera.
	I had so many milestones in my career.
	I just want to have a good time.
	I'm Lee.
	Just call me Lee.
	Okay.
	Praise Lee.
	Okay, Star Mountain.
	Thanks, babe.
	You're welcome, sweetheart.
	Take care.
	You two and I will actually say uncharacteristically bye to you, unlike most callers.
	Bye, Star Mountain.
	By a B. See, I didn't even hang up on her.
	I feel cheated when I don't hang up on somebody.
	The other callers feel cheated because they were hung up on.
	I feel cheated if I don't hang up on somebody.
	Let's go ahead and fast-forward in time here.
	Okay.
	The man who fell to earth says, The only broadcast I ever listened to was the one with Karen and Aaron, and I couldn't stand that British cunt.
	Stop virtue signaling and feigning melodrama and actually discuss something for fuck's sake.
	Who was British?
	Was there a Brit involved in all of that?
	I don't know about any of that.
	I will say, though, whoa, Daddy, how about that Heather Wade living right next door to Art Bell's widow?
	Huh?
	What do you think about them apples?
	There's not a...
	I don't know any married woman in this universe, in this culture, that would be okay with her husband marrying...
	That would be okay with her husband moving a woman of, I suppose...
	sexable age into a structure on the property directly next door in perpetuity.
	I don't know any married woman in this culture that would be okay with that.
	And I'm kind of wondering if when Art brought the idea to her, maybe she felt like she was against it inside herself, but she just kind of went with it because maybe she thought to herself, well, I'm in another country.
	I'm in another culture that I'm not familiar with.
	So perhaps this is not something that would be considered unusual or raise an eyebrow among anybody.
	And so I will just go ahead and defer to the judgment of someone who probably knows better about how things work in this country and in this culture than I do.
	I suspect that may have been a thought process.
	I don't know.
	But it just strikes me as really odd that any wife would allow that.
	Then again, you can't know what the interaction was between Art and his wife.
	You know, that's a big mistake I see a lot of people make.
	They look at a marriage and they think they understand what's happening in the marriage.
	You don't know what's going on in any marriage.
	Do you know how many people I've seen married that you just thought were solid as a rock?
	In fact, you felt jealous of them.
	And the next thing you know, oh, hey, guess what?
	Todd and Susie are getting divorced.
	What?
	Yeah, they're getting divorced.
	What?
	Yeah, Todd was caught with mannequins doing questionable things in an alley two nights ago.
	And the police, well, they rounded him up, took him to jail.
	Then he did more questionable things there.
	In fact, he was happier in the jail than he was in the alley.
	Oh my God.
	Yeah, I know it's something, isn't it?
	It is!
	I mean, I can't tell you how many times I have seen that sort of thing happen.
	So as I've aged and as I've observed the world around me, one axiom I have decided is definitely an axiom is that you cannot know what's happening in somebody else's marriage.
	You can't know what their interactions are.
	You can't know what their sex life is like.
	You can't know any of that stuff.
	You know what's shown to you.
	You know what you're allowed to see.
	You know what you're allowed to know.
	And so it's hard to know what the conversation was.
	It's impossible to know what the conversation was that led to her living there.
	But then they had this episode of the barcast where I guess that was the episode where Karen Jackson, Art Bell's friend from Parump, Nevada, who owns K-9, came on.
	And I actually never listened to the show.
	And the reason I didn't listen was because, number one, it occurred during that period of time when Belgab was down.
	And I just personally wasn't interested in being intellectually plugged into any of that crap associated with this whole universe.
	This whole thing.
	I just didn't really want anything to do with it, number one.
	So that's one reason I didn't listen.
	But the other reason I didn't listen was because I didn't really like the idea of listening to a grieving widow in a country that is not her first country, surrounded by people she doesn't really know, surrounded by people that actually want something from her, expressing her grief and putting herself out there for everybody to hear.
	And I just didn't want to hear that.
	I did eventually listen to a clip only of that segment where Art's wife called in, Aaron, and, oh, cringe city, baby.
	My goodness.
	It's like, and I listened to the statement that she read on the air.
	And if someone could call in and enlighten me on this, I'm still, after having listened to that statement, not entirely clear what it was that she said.
	I mean, she, I think, said something to the effect of she felt betrayed by Heather and she wanted that artbelllegacy.com domain name back that it was never promised to Heather.
	Heather doesn't own it.
	That's really what I took away from that.
	But is there anything specific with regard to whatever feelings of betrayal may exist?
	And then I saw on Bellgab that Heather publicly announced on some show somewhere that Art's death was actually a suicide.
	And I don't know if that was what Art's wife was referring to because the public record does not state that Art's death was a suicide.
	Then again, I don't know how Clark County, Nevada works.
	I don't know if you commit suicide by prescription medication ingestion.
	I don't know if they specifically come out and call it that.
	I'm sure they come out and articulate the cause of death, overdose of prescription medications, and they probably list it and all of that.
	But I doubt, I mean, well, I don't doubt.
	I just don't know if they would actually necessarily say something was a suicide if it were.
	But I'll tell you this.
	I have been under the impression for months that that was exactly what happened.
	And the reason I was under that impression was because Heather was telling people that behind the scenes.
	And then those people were coming to me and telling me that verbatim word for word, what she said.
	And so, in fact, I came, it was quite shortly after Art's death that I was made aware of the fact that she was telling people that.
	And after I got over the initial shock, well, there was a level of shock hearing that.
	But after I got over that, I started waiting and wondering, okay, when is this going to actually be in some way publicly announced?
	And I never saw it happen.
	And then the coroner's report comes out, the toxicology report comes out.
	And I guess it was after that that Heather went on that show and said that Art committed suicide.
	Would it be such a shock if he did commit suicide, though?
	I mean, it does suck from the standpoint of, dude, you've got a little girl.
	You've got a little boy that's, what is he, one?
	I mean, that would be horrible.
	But at the same time, I don't get the impression that he was in the greatest health.
	I mean, everybody knows he had COPD.
	Someone told me that they personally met Art, and their first impression upon meeting him was, wow, this guy isn't in the greatest of health.
	And so would it necessarily be the most shocking thing in the world that he did that?
	Well, to me personally, no, it wouldn't.
	But thus far, the only reason, the only source of that rumor, that allegation that he killed himself for all of those months that I had been apprised of was Heather Wade telling people that.
	Now, what her motivation is in publicly coming out and saying that, I don't know.
	I mean, I really, there were times where I really wanted to just put that out there.
	Hey, everybody, here's what I was told.
	I don't know.
	Maybe it's true.
	Maybe it's not.
	But I'll tell you this, my source is legit.
	My source and my sources are solid.
	It's the person who told my sources what they were told that is questionable.
	And that would be Heather Wade.
	So I don't know if she lied to the people who were telling me this.
	I don't know if she was telling the truth and maybe the family just doesn't want that out there for some reason.
	That could be a totally legitimate reason for them not admitting that or the official report not saying that.
	I mean, there are families.
	I mean, we're talking about Aaron's Catholic.
	And I mean, you look at some of the mortal sins one can commit.
	And I would think that if you're a devout Catholic, which it's my understanding she is, suicide is probably right up there, pretty high.
	And I would imagine that if, in fact, that were true, which I have at this moment, no information to, I don't feel like Heather has a lot of credibility.
	So as of this moment, I don't really see any corroborating information out there to say that's necessarily true.
	But if it were true, I could see totally the family not necessarily wanting that to come out to protect somebody's dignity, to protect the legacy.
	Hashtag legacy.
	I could totally see that, and I wouldn't fault anybody for that either.
	And there may be somebody hearing me discuss this right now saying, oh my God, he went there.
	Oh, it's so appropriate.
	Well, I'm not the one who went there.
	Heather Wade went on a radio show, and she's the one who said this.
	And having lived on Art's property since 2016, I would think that if anybody were in a position to know what's happening around there, it would be her.
	And so if that's not worthy of commentary, I don't necessarily know what is.
	But I didn't listen to that show, and I probably eventually will get around to doing so.
	But just from some of the cliff notes, the bullet points that people have thrown my way, it doesn't exactly sound like there's a whole lot of love lost between Karen Jackson and Heather Wade.
	Now, what the origins of that rift may be, I have no idea.
	I think it's probably just two women, both of which are pretty needy.
	That's my impression of both of them, wanting to plant that flagpole on the I knew Art Bell better than you did record, a historical record.
	That's my impression of it.
	I just see two women that aren't new, and both of them want to be the best friend.
	That's my take on that.
	Okay, Malachi Martini says, Gravity Sucks is such a cuck, he can't even stay true to his new Kami Cat Lady forum.
	And then Nucky Nolan says, I'm likely pre-banned from that when I cause a disturbance in the social justice warrior force.
	And I've been asked a couple times if I've ever opened an account over there.
	I never have.
	I know that accounts have been opened in my name because I'm Liberace.
	But I myself have never done so.
	It's my understanding that you have to be logged in to even read multiple threads, which, okay.
	You know, everybody runs their forum differently.
	That's one of the things I told, well, that's one of the things Dave Schrader kind of said to me.
	We had a little bit of a back and forth via private message shortly after Belgab came back up.
	And he said to me, well, he was talking about the amount of venom that's being launched at him on Belgab.
	And I said, well, you know what?
	Given a little time, I feel like some of the emotional energy behind some of that is going to subside.
	I think I said it'd probably be a mistake to totally just fade out and not drop in to interact or address people.
	I think that would probably be a mistake, but what you got to understand is that the origins of that are probably, I would say, people who feel like, okay, Bellgab is the forum that was right there at the forefront of getting Midnight in the Desert off the ground.
	Bell Gab was, I believe, and I still believe I've always believed without Bellgab, Midnight in the Desert would never have happened.
	There wouldn't have been the inspiration there for art to come back.
	The motivation, the encouragement, the actual man hours put into preparing and promoting and working just to make everything happen.
	There was so much that went into that, all of which came back to Bell Gab as the hub.
	And so I don't think any of that would have happened without Belgab.
	And so Bellgab goes down for three months, and then the guy who's hosting the show that Art used to host starts posting at this other forum that doesn't apparently operate under any of the rules that Bell Gab does.
	It bans people, it locks threads, all of that crap.
	You know the shtick, the whole thing.
	And so people look at you interacting so just steadfastly over there, almost to the point where it looks like that other forum is an appendage of your radio show.
	And people don't like that because they kind of view it as an act of disloyalty.
	And whether it is an act of disloyalty or not, that's not what I'm commenting on.
	I'm simply explaining to you what it is that people perceive about that and why it is that some of those people may be upset.
	There are also reasons, more peripheral reasons, at least in terms of the context of posting on this forum, Belgab.
	There are peripheral reasons why people would also have a problem with Dave.
	Maybe some people don't.
	I mean, there's nobody out there who's going to do a broadcast and encounter nobody who dislikes the show.
	I mean, some people maybe just don't like the show, so they like to shit post where they like to shit post where Dave Schrader's concerned.
	And that's got nothing to do with the Midnight in the Desert operations direct and immediate connection to the new Elgab forum.
	That's just people liking or not liking a show.
	But I do believe, and I told him that I think a large part of it is because people view it as an act of disloyalty, particularly given the way the forum is run, that forum, because it's so contrary to the spirit of Belgab and how things have always been done here.
	And he responded with something like, well, he's got the right to run his forum the way he wants to run his forum.
	You can run your forum the way you want to run it.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	And I didn't even bother responding to it.
	It just seemed like, okay, I got under somebody's skin here.
	Maybe we'll come back to this when cooler heads start to prevail.
	But they just totally missed the point of what I was saying.
	Altogether, like two seconds after Belgab goes down, Keith Rowland comes out.
	I saw a tweet somebody sent me.
	He said something to the effect of, Elgab has now surpassed Belgab.com.
	In what regard?
	Post count?
	No.
	Membership numbers?
	No.
	Number of threads?
	No.
	Time in existence?
	No.
	I'm running out of criteria here.
	I don't know how, but I mean, clearly that guy still has something stuck in his craw as far as Belgab is concerned.
	Meanwhile, I still submit to you, Keith Rowland wouldn't have even an audience to stream to, period, right now anyway, if it weren't for Belgab.
	And I understand that Heath Rowland and I have gone around and around a few times in the past.
	I don't particularly like him, and he doesn't like me.
	And that's fine, but at least be honest about things.
	You know, don't be a Heather Wade and pretend you've never been heard of Belgab.
	Don't be a pony boy sunset and pretend you've never heard of Belgab.
	That is just, as art would say, lame, lame, lame.
	Pardon me.
	Laura Kinch says, must be the negative ions makes you feel great.
	I've always wanted to see Niagara Falls.
	I'm not sure what she's referring to there other than my planned trip to see Brigg next summer.
	And I tell you what, you're going to enjoy that video.
	We're going to go through every piece of memorabilia she's got.
	We're going to lay it all out on a table or multiple tables if it's required.
	And we're going to just totally go through the backstory of every item she's got, starting, I think, with the Genesis device.
	That would be the device, I think, most the item most appropriate to start with.
	And we'll edit it all together.
	It'll be well produced and it'll look nice.
	And I think you're going to enjoy it.
	It'll be good times.
	And you'll be able to see Liberace in a way you've never seen him before.
	Malachi Martini says, Art would never post on Elgab.
	They all know that in their hearts.
	Well, you know, at the time that Midnight in the Desert originally initially came back or started, I should say, there was another forum, and I can't even, for the life of me, remember the name of it.
	I think they changed the name a couple of times in a really short spin of time.
	And after Art, I'm sorry, the coffee's getting to me.
	And after Art quit his show, they decided that they were going to deperson art and pretend that they never were like sort of an Art Bell fan form.
	And they went and did something else, I don't know.
	But there were at that time on Art Bell's website two forums being promoted.
	There was Belgab and there was that forum.
	And that forum was kind of presented as the soft, safe, sterilized, controlled, curated version of a forum.
	Whereas people who actually wanted to just get down and dirty baby, they could come to Belgab.
	And so Elgab is not the first Elgab that has ever existed.
	That much is for sure.
	But immediately after the show ended, Art left.
	Within 10 seconds, Keith Rowland went in there and ripped that Belgab link out of there, didn't he?
	He couldn't have been happier to pull.
	Can you imagine how much that pained Keith Rowland when Art Bell told him, I'm going to have to ask you to post a link to Belgab.
	Do it by five.
	That must have really pained him.
	And so he was more than happy to rip that thing down.
	Let's see.
	Okay, well, I complained about my graying hair and who's it says, as long as your pubes aren't getting gray.
	Well, I'm just more primarily worried about my eyebrows getting gray because if they get gray, then that probably is going to publicly say something to everybody about my pubes.
	And I just don't want that kind of info floating around out there.
	It's all on the eyebrows.
	If you want to call N573-837-4948, I'm surprised Chef is, I'm not seeing Chefiston here.
	I'm kind of surprised.
	I'm a little bit, I got to say, disappointed that I didn't see Chefiston here.
	Evil Twin of Zen says at the height of his fame from the 1950s to the 1970s, Liberace was the highest paid entertainer in the world.
	You know that house of Liberace's there in Las Vegas, it was really run down.
	It was falling apart.
	There was graffiti.
	There was vandalism.
	There were break-ins.
	And nobody wanted to buy the property.
	Then the housing market collapsed in 2008, and it really went south.
	And it looks like now they've got some people in there who are, this is the, if you've watched the movie Behind the Candelabra, which is about Liberace, and it focuses on the relationship between Liberace and his boy toy, Scott Thorson, who was just some poor kid who lived with his aunt and uncle, I think.
	who Liberace saw.
	Where did he initially see him?
	Oh, this guy, Scott Thorson, went to see a Liberace show.
	He was brought there by one of his buddies in the gay community, and they watched Liberace, and then this guy personally knew Liberace, so he took Scott Thorson backstage, and that's how they initially met.
	Hi, I'm Liberace.
	I just want to have a good time.
	A really good time.
	And that was it.
	That's what he said to Scott Thorson, at least in the movie.
	And that was all she wrote, baby.
	I'm just looking at Cat Smile's Winnie Be Nice, all right?
	Hashtag post with the supposedly, or the allegedly appropriate image there, at least according to Belgab lore.
	I don't believe any of that actually happened.
	I'm just going to put that on record.
	And as far as my pubes turning gray, Richard Griper says, if the pubes are gray, stay away.
	That's why I can't have that type of information out there publicly.
	I just, it's not something I'm personally prepared for.
	Well, I hope you've enjoyed this episode of The Gabcast.
	I certainly enjoyed being here, and I hope that certain things that needed to be discussed were discussed.
	I hope they were brought up to your satisfaction.
	We're going to keep doing more of this.
	I'm going to get an appropriate chat room in place.
	But then again, I don't know.
	Maybe I'll see what you guys think about this because there are certain advantages to having people comment on the broadcast right there in the Gabcast thread.
	And as opposed to a chat room where everything is just lost in the ether forever.
	I mean, we do usually try to archive the chat room transcript, but it's just not the same.
	There's a difference to it.
	And I do Trump's hair on The Queen, that's happening.
	I mean, I would say she is at least 11% more sexable with that hair than with her actual hair.
	But it is nice to go to the homepage on Belgab and see Gabcast, Gabcast, Gabcast, Gabcast in the recent posts section.
	So that's a plus.
	Maybe we'll keep doing it this way.
	I don't know.
	We'll have to decide.
	I'll find out what people listening to the show happen to think.
	And from there, we'll make an executive decision.
	I will consult the Belgab Advisory Committee to determine exactly the course of action to be taken.
	Nucky Nolan is still awaiting his response from the Belgab executive committee to determine whether or not his apology the other night was accepted.
	And he will receive a manila envelope with information apprising him of their decision.
	It's the Gabcast.
	Have a great day.
	A great night.
	I'm Liberace, and we're going to do this again real soon.
	I'm going to try, try, try.
	You know, I'm doing this overnight thing on 105.3 classic KYMO.
	I do that five days a week.
	And so it's really difficult to do that.
	It's more difficult to do.
	I'm telling you.
	It's a lot more difficult to do this now than it was because of that.
	In fact, now, after I finish this, I got to go voice track a six-hour overnight radio shift before midnight.
	How about that?
	Thank God my kids are at my mom and dad's house.
	If you want to come to Cape Girardo on the 17th, we'll see you at Ragsdale's on the 17th.
	Bye, everybody.
	You've been listening to The Gabcast, a podcast about Belgab.com.

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