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09 July, 2017

09 July, 2017 ---------- Art Bell has died. 2017: On this episode of the official podcast of BellGab.com, we talk podcasting gear, deer hunting diapers, UFOs, and The Ad Council ©.

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	You are listening to the Gabcast.
	It is time again for the amazing podcast forum radio show, whatever this thing is.
	How's everybody doing?
	I just faded that out way quicker than I planned to.
	Damon, are you there?
	I am here.
	How about Gravity Sucks?
	Is here.
	And the one, the only, the forum god, old MV, are you there?
	Ugh.
	Why do you have to do all that?
	That makes me very uncomfortable here.
	Well, then it worked.
	Yeah, I'm here.
	Oh, darn.
	Okay, well, let's go ahead and end this then.
	If the stream is working, then everyone in the chat room at ufoship.com slash chat is listening to this as well and on TuneIn Radio.
	You can call us.
	What's the Skype name that they should use to call in?
	Are we not doing Skype?
	If I remember right from the last Gabcast, you said that all audio of callers should not be at the same level with those, right?
	I agree with that.
	That's my philosophy.
	They want to call in you.
	They should dial a phone number.
	Exactly.
	So to do that, call 573-837-4948, and you too can speak to the amazing group of people assembled for tonight's show.
	I'm just going to go ahead and throw this out now, Star.
	I see you're in the chat room there.
	You probably don't want to save the logs to this one because it's going to get dark really quick.
	You know, especially when you have like multiple hosts, as we do now, and somebody calls into the show, just them sounding like they're on a telephone helps differentiate their voice from the hosts.
	You know, it kind of mitigates some of the confusion.
	Exactly.
	Well, I can add some effects too to make their voices sound worse if we need to.
	If we need like some robot effects or something, just I'll have to fumble with it live.
	But I'll make someone sound worse.
	Don't worry.
	I'll find a way.
	So what's going on?
	It's only been a couple days since MV and Damon did a Gabcast.
	And we thought, as we got together and discussed in the backrooms of Andy and Enterprises, what does Bellgab need?
	And we decided they needed another Gabcast this quickly.
	So what's happened since last time you guys did a show?
	Well, half the features that I use in the Bellgab are now inoperative.
	It's a shame.
	Well, wait a minute.
	So there's features?
	It's not like you're buying diapers any longer, okay?
	Actually, I am.
	My one-year-old is still in diapers.
	I mean, there are purchases to be made.
	Okay.
	We're working on the potty training, but we're working on the potty training.
	I keep looking at her.
	I'm saying, listen, people at Bell Gab are tired of being obligated to you.
	You need to learn how to use this toilet.
	And she just doesn't grasp it.
	It doesn't take that long to train a cat.
	Well, maybe my children just aren't smarter than cats.
	Let's boil this down to the simplest level.
	It could be.
	Well, everyone should have a standard to be working towards.
	I was going for hamster when I am raising my children, but...
	Like everything I...
	Try the toilet train and hamster.
	I don't even want to guess how complicated that would be.
	Everything I've taught my children to do, every lesson they've learned from me, no matter what it is, at every step of the way I've asked myself, would a cat have learned this faster?
	And that's the benchmark I use to determine whether my children are just general failures or not.
	It's a simple benchmark.
	Some disagree with its use, but it works for our family.
	Well, what I've done for my children, which I'm now working on, human resource number three, but I've done all of my parenting and skills training through using video professor DVDs.
	It's worked out really well.
	My son, he's learned how to work with a word processor really well.
	He's done a great job with it.
	I tried Video Professor.
	My children are scared of his mustache.
	As they should be.
	So you've raised your children to be scared of strangers with mustaches and candy.
	My whole family is conditioned to distrust men with mustaches.
	So your kids will stay away from George Norrie.
	You know, he sent me an email the other day.
	It might have been like yesterday or the day before.
	And he said, and by the way, you'll have to excuse me.
	I'm all pilled up.
	I mean, I'm on Hydrocodone and just I'm really high.
	Legally high for a change, but high nonetheless.
	Is there any other way to do a Gabcast?
	He sent me an email and he was like, hey, you've got a lot of audio of my show.
	I think that's how he referred to it, my show, all over the forum that needs to be removed.
	And he mentioned someone's username.
	I don't even remember who it was, but it's like, you know, this is, he's like, I'm trying to keep the lawyers at bay.
	And I'm thinking to myself, you jizbag, you're probably the one tattling to the lawyers.
	He's the one posting it and then complaining.
	Yep.
	So anyway, in this email, he doesn't mention any specific posts that contain infringing material.
	He just sends me this vague message about there being an inordinate amount of audio of his show on the forum.
	And it's like, what am I supposed to do with this?
	Am I supposed to go, you know, you gotta, I hope George hears this.
	If you have a problem with audio of your shit show being posted at bellgab.com, the way this works is you need to send specific links to specific posts.
	By the way, who is emptying their trash cans in the background?
	What is that?
	That's probably me getting my.
	It probably is you.
	Use your mute button, please.
	Anyway, send specific links to the infringing material.
	I mean, what is this vague nonsense?
	I just ignored it.
	I didn't even respond.
	And at this point, who cares?
	Is the material really that valuable?
	I mean, is it possible to infringe on trash, on rubbish, on garbage?
	Well, I think you should have told him your response email should have been, we'll have our intern take a look at this and resolve the complaint in quick fashion.
	I think that Premier, or wait, I'm sorry, iHeartRadio.
	I think they've got bigger problems to worry about right now than whether or not somebody has posted 45 seconds of Coast to Coast AM on an obscure website somewhere.
	Isn't that considered viral marketing anyway?
	They don't get that.
	It's an old media company run by old men who have no idea how the internet works, operating on a 1950s media business model.
	I mean, they really don't get it.
	Well, and don't they have a misting fountain or something in the CEO's office?
	Well, a lot of people knocked that misting fountain, but I found that the quality of Premier Radio Networks shows really improved when they installed that.
	So I don't know why you guys would knock that.
	Well, I'm not knocking it.
	I'm just hoping.
	I'm hoping you actually install one at Vandeven Enterprises.
	Your secretary doesn't let me get into your suite very often anymore, but I've heard that you have a misting fountain.
	It's epic there.
	We have a fountain, but it's not a misting fountain.
	It's just a water sprayer that just douses people as they walk into my office.
	I don't want anybody coming back to bother me with nonsense.
	You press a button on your desk, and instead of dropping into a pit, they get golden showers.
	It's not a button on my desk.
	It's just a sensor.
	It assumes everybody is coming back to give me bad news or otherwise bother me.
	We're just trying to keep all of them out.
	Yeah, not against.
	Employees, nope.
	Censor, activate.
	You can tell who the complainers in the building are just by how wet their clothing is.
	It's a great system we have.
	That's why I wear a bathing suit to work.
	It'd be really hilarious if we require everyone to wear just...
	Never mind.
	Carry on.
	Go ahead.
	No, if you want to give us a call, go ahead.
	You can at 573-837-4948.
	And we will take your questions, calls, comments.
	We will bitch at you if what your call is is stupid.
	And I promise to hang up on you in very unlike MV fashion because he does it in a way that no one else can.
	So I won't even try to infringe on his ability to hang up on somebody.
	He might send me a PM telling me that I'm messing with his territory there.
	My stick.
	Your stick.
	Yeah.
	When you come up with the right word there.
	When you say that no.
	Go ahead.
	So don't you mean inboxes?
	Because that's a famous guy who always says inboxes.
	Well, inboxes are different than PMs, aren't they?
	Yeah, probably.
	Because I go to inbox.com and log in with my Google credentials, and then I get email.
	Okay.
	You know, I had never seen the term inbox used as a verb before that tub of shite used it.
	And so I'm kind of wondering, is that something that he invented in terms of its use?
	Or is that something that is just sort of common vernacular?
	I think it's been around.
	I don't know for sure if I remember this correctly or if I'm just retconning it, but it seems like I've heard people say, just inbox that to me before they really understood email.
	We do have our first caller.
	You were on the air.
	Area code 586.
	Hey, it's Ponyboy.
	What's up, guys?
	Way to tell everybody where I live.
	Good job.
	Hey, you called in here.
	And I've got like, I got hit with like three calls at the same time.
	And I'm like, okay, how am I going to differentiate these?
	And I decided to pretend like I was a pro and go with area code.
	Obviously, we all know that's not true.
	I like it, Curtis.
	Yeah, it's all right.
	You're totally a pro.
	I actually have a couple tech questions, but first of all, I just want to say the GravitySox has inspired me to get my shit together and be able to host so you wouldn't hear me moving around in the background like that.
	So thanks.
	Yes, I appreciate that.
	Hey, no problem.
	I'm always glad to be there.
	Just to defend gravity, because every time him and I do a podcast together, something bad happens.
	And it's not him or me.
	So I got to get his back on this one because him and I have had some painful adventures together doing Gabcast, haven't we?
	Just leave me through it.
	Gravity sucks.
	You suck.
	I thought you were talking about you and MV.
	I didn't know you were talking about you and I.
	No, anytime MV and I have done a podcast together, Radio Gold.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I can't think of a time that we've had something not go right.
	Yeah, normally the ones we host, there's two people, two random callers just call in and just start bitching each other out or something.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Or it goes to dark places.
	That's why I said that at the beginning.
	Star thought I was actually trying to pick on her there, but no, I actually, this is going to be a dark episode.
	It's foretold by the fact that you and I are together.
	It'll be dark.
	Dark.
	So you guys don't go to Daylight Savings Time, do you?
	No, we are normal now in Indiana.
	Oh, so you do?
	You do switch with most other states, too?
	Yes, we decided to no longer act like we are Kentucky here in Indiana, which Kentucky switches to, but it used to be where only Indiana and Arizona were the two holdouts.
	Now it's just Arizona.
	Okay, because my sister, I got together with a bunch of my family today, and we were talking about going to visit my grandmothers and switching, going from Illinois to just across the Michigan border and then having to go back into Indiana and hitting three different time zones all on the same day.
	Going to visit your grandmother.
	Didn't you tell me, aren't you like in your 50s?
	I'm older than that, but this was when we were kids.
	Oh, okay.
	When we were much younger, we would drive from Chicago up into just the first exit into Michigan on high 94, and then have to go back down to Indiana for something and end up hitting three different time zones on the same day within about an hour.
	Yeah, well, if you want advice on how to travel in Indiana, I'll tell you to travel quickly and get in and get out as fast as you can.
	We are the children of the corner.
	That's what she said.
	Exactly.
	Advice I've never taken.
	There's two sets of good memories I have about Indiana.
	One was I used to go to a place called Schaefer Lake.
	They had a boardwalk down there with a bunch of carnival rides and stuff.
	I remember going there as a kid.
	And then there was a race car track, a Ustac track on the border called Illiana.
	And my uncle and my dad used to race Usack stock cars.
	And I would go watch them race there and help out for whatever I could, as young as I was.
	Yeah, Indiana does have a long history in racing.
	Yep.
	Yay, Indiana.
	He's not Indiana to be from home of three things.
	A couple memories of Gravity Socks, racing, and the venerable star, the Mud King.
	Well, you forgot it's also the home of the Michael Van Deeven Fan Club in Muncie.
	Munson, Indiana.
	Yes, exactly.
	Muncie, Indiana, the home of the Michael Van Deven fan club with president Curtis Thornton, also known as the Mud King, and member number two, which is Brigg, also known as Grub.
	Curtis has threatened to quit a couple of times, but things have always worked out.
	Well, it's those adult diapers.
	I mean, you do keep me well furnished in adult diapers, which I appreciate.
	So you guys think when we talk about diapers that he needs, it's for his kids.
	And I was going to let that go earlier and not give away my secret, but it's all right.
	I'll go ahead and let you guys know.
	Sometimes there's leakage.
	What do you want from me?
	Well, I really like the feel of adult diapers.
	One of the things that's really nice about them is they're snug in all the right places.
	I want an honest answer from everybody here.
	Has anyone here ever worn an adult diaper?
	I have not yet.
	Not yet.
	Full disclosure.
	You are right now.
	When I used to go climbing trees to go hunting, I used to go ahead and put one on.
	I never had to actually use it.
	But I actually, in case there was a big buck sitting down there just out of range and I had to whiz, I was prepared.
	What about squeezing a log?
	Would you have been willing to do that into the diaper?
	No, no, you would not be willing to do that.
	I've already proven I could hold that for days.
	Huh?
	Just eat a lot of cheese before you go, and you can really go a long time without.
	Aren't you supposed to mark your territory, though, when you're going hunting for the big buck?
	Yeah, it's not so much the uh the I mean, I don't think the smell bothers them that much when you're used to an area, but uh, it's more the movement.
	So that would be more dropping the log with the movement.
	Well, it's like whipping it out and having it hang down from the tree.
	What you know, they're gonna go hunting.
	What are you hunting?
	I mean, I was taught very early on that that's the way you get the most antlers on your uh your what is it your prey.
	You ought to see me go trolling in a lake, you ought to see me go trolling in a lake.
	Do you have snipes where you hunt?
	You want a dark, you wanted a dark episode.
	Okay, let's get this quick.
	Okay, so Pony Boy had questions.
	Let's let's come back to the darkness.
	Don't worry, it'll be there for us this whole episode.
	Yeah, I didn't.
	It was actually tech-related questions, which you probably can't answer without a security mixer.
	So, that's probably blown to hell at this point.
	Um, before we move on from noisy stuff, all this reminds me of back in the day, people typing on their keyboard during shows.
	Do you guys remember that?
	Oh, yeah, I still have a really loud, I have a mechanical keyboard.
	So, if you want to hear some typing, I'd be glad to write War and Peace while we're sitting here.
	Yeah, so apparently, like last night was trying to hook up so I could like experiment with some live streaming I was going to do, which never materialized because, like I said, I could not figure out how to hook my mixer in properly, or either that or my internet was dropping, so I couldn't.
	Like, I was text calling with a couple people to see if I could get it to hold a Skype call, and it was just a disaster.
	So, I guess, like, I don't know, it's not saying you need the men to step in and help you get that working, don't you?
	Yes, that is exactly why I called because, quite frankly, MV, I have never been the back end of it.
	I have always been the girl with the big mouth who gets chosen to do this.
	Okay, I'm not even going to say talent because that's really a stretch with my abilities, okay?
	We're just going to say that I'm never on the tech side of it, so I'm trying to figure this out.
	And I'm like, Where are the guys?
	I need that.
	I'm glad Linda Sarseur is not here to listen to this.
	She'd be busting a gasket right now.
	Well, I can speak for myself.
	I would be more than happy to help you out.
	Um, we just need to set some time aside to figure it out.
	But I will ask you this: you know, everyone I help out like on the side with something, they eventually turn on me and hate find some reason to hate me.
	So, if you could not do that, that would be appreciated.
	Recall we're over that hump.
	Okay, I'll help you.
	So, you're saying that everybody that you help falkey's in, huh?
	It seems to happen, it really does.
	I have so much fun participating this way.
	I mean, I had a really good time when I called last week, so I wouldn't do that.
	I shouldn't be left alone by myself when I'm doing this.
	I think it's bothered due to the team effort.
	Well, really, what you're trying to do is very simple to set up.
	I think I, with a maybe like a 20-minute Skype call, we could get you lined out.
	Awesome.
	I will set that up with you.
	We can even wait till you're back in country.
	I'm not like, you know, in a hurry.
	Not a big deal.
	I'm sorry.
	If there's anything that you get in before Curtis hangs up on me, I insist on doing it.
	I insist on doing it from my phone in Morocco while I'm walking down the street in robot using mobile data.
	Awesome.
	That's what I wanted to hear.
	Which hand will you be holding your phone in, though, Michael?
	Well, in Morocco, it's really affordable to pay somebody to hold your phone up to your face for you.
	I believe that three DRMs per day, which equates to about 30 American cents.
	Wow, I'm going to Morocco.
	Yeah, you know, it's really cheap.
	I'm leaving on Tuesday.
	It's just amazing just what you can buy for so little.
	I mean, if you were a rich American or just in general, a rich Westerner and you wanted somewhere to retire, you're not worried about making additional money, or maybe you've got investments that continue to make money regardless of what you're doing.
	A place like Morocco, you can just absolutely live amazingly for very little money.
	I highly recommend it.
	I mean, a good example, you can go out and have a great meal that here would cost after the conversion and everything, if you went out and had this same meal here, it would probably cost you something on the order of about 10 bucks, maybe 12.
	In Morocco, about $2.
	But what are the risks associated with that?
	Are there any?
	There might be rectal bleeding, yes, but I don't know why everybody has to be so hung up on that.
	That's a good point.
	Okay, yeah.
	Well, you know, you got to take it where it started.
	I'm going to have a wisdom tooth removed.
	You're going to have a wisdom tooth removed there?
	Oh, yes.
	I bet you come back with one less testicle.
	Or an additional.
	Make sure you check the Google translation against another search doctor.
	Well, I was at the dentist yesterday.
	They can't remove this damn thing at the dentist, and they said it's going to have to be an oral surgeon.
	And, you know, that's going to, I don't have dental insurance.
	Very few people really do have any dental insurance that's worth a crap.
	And so, you know, at the end of the day, this thing's probably going to cost an oral surgeon over $1,000 to have removed.
	That might even be a conservative estimate.
	And so I can go over to Morocco and have this thing removed for about $100.
	And I'm going to be like, I'm going to be there on Tuesday.
	So, no, it's professional.
	I mean, it's not like you're going to some dude in a tent.
	I've seen The Simpsons.
	I know their doctor on there.
	Yeah, it's, I mean, that's, hence the hydrocodone.
	I am in a level of misery that is really hard to describe with the spoken word.
	There's nothing worse than tooth problems.
	Got a question in the chat about Morocco that I'm actually interested in hearing the answer to.
	JSHC77 asks, are there any good landmarks in Morocco that are interesting?
	Landmarks.
	Yeah, like places that you would want to go to.
	I'm assuming he means like their Mount Rushmore or the Ancient Architecture.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, like their pantheon.
	I don't know.
	I'd have to think about that.
	I mean, when I go to Morocco, we just go walking around a lot.
	One of my favorite places in Morocco is this little town called Urika, O-U-R-I-K-A.
	And it's a little town that is just in the, it's just lodged inside a mountain, basically.
	And there's a river that runs straight through it.
	And when I say a little town, I mean it is a little town.
	I mean, there are people who live on either side of the river in little shacks and stuff outside cleaning their clothes in the river.
	I mean, it's very old world.
	And needless to say, no, Pony Boy Sun said, I will not be able to Skype you while I'm in Urica.
	We'll have to work something else up.
	But that's one of my favorite places to go.
	Look it up, and you'll see all kinds of Google images of Urica.
	O-U-R-I-K-A.
	Is that where Alawakbar, dental, and veterinary services are too?
	No, that's all located in a cave just outside the capital city.
	You'll know you're there when you see the rabid dog walking about.
	Asking for a friend.
	I don't know.
	I mean, landmarks, I don't know.
	Perhaps there are, and I've been to them and just didn't know I was.
	I don't know.
	That's a like.
	Do you go to the Moroccan zoo when you're there?
	Yeah, I've been to the zoo.
	They have a very nice zoo.
	It's very modern.
	I think it was just built like now.
	The zoo they had before was a real pile of shit.
	I mean, I actually was brave enough to walk into the bathrooms and that thing and just try to contemplate how somebody would ever go in there and use those facilities.
	But the new zoo was only built within the last three or four years.
	It's great.
	It's beautiful, very modern.
	It would fit right into any Western nation.
	I'm guessing where any average tourist would go in Morocco isn't going to be that much different in terms of layout and feel as any Midwestern town in the U.S. with the standardization of everything with shopping malls and all of that.
	I'm sure that's carried over to there too.
	It's when you go off the beaten path that you start to find the real Morocco.
	I'm on the beaten path very little when I'm there because unlike most Westerners or just foreigners in general who would go to another country like that, a lot of those people are going to go to the places that are designed.
	Like, for instance, an American going to Cancun and they go there and they think they've quote-unquote been to Mexico.
	No, you have not been to Mexico.
	You've been to a pre-packaged, tightly controlled, homogenized experience that happens to be located in Mexico, but you've not been to Mexico.
	You haven't experienced Cancun until you're in the back of a trunk driving down a dirt road at about 80 miles per hour in a trunk with cocaine dust located everywhere.
	The dog barking in the back seat.
	Just residual cocaine.
	You can just get quite a buzz wiping your fingers on the floor or the bottom of the trunk there as you're going along.
	But anyway, yeah, since everybody I know is, I mean, basically, I'm family over there.
	You know, I mean, I have a lot of family over there, and so I'm going to be going to a lot of places that the typical tourist would never, ever see, never think to go.
	That's nice.
	Yeah.
	So I wrote some questions that we were going to talk about because I mentioned in the Gabcast thread that not only am I going to be the co-host tonight, but also a guest.
	So the first question I have for me is, why is DC better than AC?
	Would you guys like to chime in on that?
	I know there's been some controversy on the Gabcast thread.
	I know it's a shocking issue.
	What?
	I know it's AC and DC are kind of a shocking topic.
	It is.
	Well, this is a very electrifying topic.
	That's why I thought we should talk it up.
	Don't laugh.
	I want to know with Gravity and Damon on here, we've got some experts.
	So that's why I thought this was a good topic to talk about.
	Which would you pick?
	If you were going to reach out, absolutely.
	AC is responsible for the industrial age of mass manufacture.
	Without AC, that never would have happened.
	DC sucks because you can't change its voltage along its path of travel.
	What you start with is what you get at the receiving point.
	Unlike AC.
	Actually, it drops over distance.
	Well, that's my next point, is that you have to have repeater stations to reprocess the signal as it goes.
	You can't just, unlike AC, which is very low maintenance from point A to point B, at least relative to DC.
	So you're telling me that my plans to restructure America on the infrastructure of DC electrical current is not a good plan.
	I don't like the idea of you rewiring this country to use a power method that was marketed by electrocuting elephants with AC power to make people scared of it.
	No, I don't.
	Well, I'm very into technology in the dark past.
	I mean, you've heard the stories of the first iPhone and all the people who died in the production of that, right?
	So, I mean, you got to electrocute a few elephants to get something going.
	Name two.
	Jack Shaw and Robbie Gard.
	Two people that died during the manufacture of the first iPhone.
	Jack Shaw and Robbie Gard.
	I can't pronounce the names.
	I can't pronounce their names or I would.
	Okay.
	We've got a caller.
	You are on the air.
	Tell us something or ask us a question or be prepared to be hung up on.
	Howdy, folks.
	This is Radio A. Radio A. How are you?
	Hey, all right.
	Hey, buddy.
	I want to ask podcasting questions.
	I'll ask the questions that PBS wouldn't ask.
	Was too scared to?
	Is that what you're saying?
	Are you calling out PBS for being afraid to ask the hard-hitting questions?
	Did you hang up on her?
	Oh, I never.
	Yes, I did.
	Wow, that was smooth.
	Curtis, you are really learning.
	Watch out.
	I want to start with the question that I posed in the Gabcast thread radio, if you don't mind, which is why is hosting a podcast so dangerous?
	We all have seen the stories of podcast hosts, and I'm included in those, that get started on a run, and then all of a sudden, calamities that they couldn't even prepare for or think of in a million years start to happen to them and cut their podcast short.
	I think a lot of those are made up.
	Or Jazz calls in, calls in the three in a row, and it's all over.
	That's a real threat right there.
	So, Radio, if you want any advice from us, I guess what GravitySucks is saying is do not take calls from Australia.
	Okay, I can handle that.
	All right.
	Thanks for the call.
	Talk to you later.
	Okay, what do your questions go?
	Yeah, I'd like to do not really podcasting live, but I want to produce canned shows.
	And I just, I'm willing to spend some money, get a couple mics, processor, and I just, I'm not really sure where to start.
	Start with ball jars.
	They're really good for canning.
	Yeah, and just go to iTunes and buy all some of the existing ones.
	There's already good ones out there.
	You don't need to do more.
	I'm running out of disk space, dude.
	If you're not going to do a live show, I think you can skip a lot of the equipment purchases like mic processing, things of that nature.
	I don't think you need it if you're not going to do live, because in that case, you can just simply do everything after the recording is made.
	Yeah, you can do it in post.
	I didn't want to say those words, but you know what you talk technical, Curtis.
	You what?
	I just love it when you talk technical.
	I can do more basically.
	Let's talk about Mix Minus.
	Let's talk about Mix Minus.
	Not with RA on a line, please.
	Not right now.
	Okay.
	You don't want to talk about my EQ.
	I think I called the wrong show.
	Let's talk about EQ.
	That's nice Q. Hopefully you take my lead with the jazz line and start talking about emotional quotient.
	Yes.
	Well, when it comes to horse porn, you really want to start looking at some thoroughbreds for that.
	It's a good way to start if you're looking to get into the industry.
	But yeah, I think you and I, Radio A, were talking in the Discord chat, which if you want to join that, go to bellgab.com and look for the random cast thread of mine.
	And you'll find a link to Discord.
	And you can join me in that chat anytime.
	And I may or may not respond to questions.
	But we were talking about mixers and different equipment you need.
	And part of what MV was saying there is that being able to do a lot of it after the fact, that you don't have to have it live.
	So that does take away the complication of needing a mixer to pull in everything and get it just right if you're okay with doing multi-track after the fact.
	But you have experience, right, with equipment.
	So you're comfortable running a mixer or a board.
	Yes, I have a lot of experience, but it's all from the 1970s.
	It's not changed.
	Not really.
	Start with the mic.
	Let's start with the mic.
	I'd like to have two mics.
	I want something with a boom.
	I want something that looks cool.
	I want to have fun with this.
	I'm not doing it to make money.
	It's a hobby.
	And so I want something that's fun.
	There will be two of us doing the show.
	And I want a mixer so that I can run some music and some live sound effects while the two of us are talking and recording our show.
	Okay, so I'll give you my.
	I think you ought to find some old pictures of our Bell Studio and just make it look exactly like his.
	And that way you can set it up like it's a museum and charge his mission after he dies.
	There you go.
	After he dies.
	He would sell me his stuff.
	All you need to do is be on the lookout for auctions that are going to occur about six weeks after that, that fateful day.
	But I'll tell you my opinion of what you should do for what you just mentioned and going for aesthetics as well.
	And then anyone else can chime in after this.
	I would get a Behringer XR18.
	You could go with the 16, but I think the 18 is better because it's expandable.
	But get that as your digital mixer that takes care of any kind of compression you might want to do if you decide you want to do it real time.
	EQ, NoiseGate, all of that's built into it.
	Then I've got a Rode PSA or PS1, I think is the boom that I use.
	And then I've got a Sure SM7B, which is a broadcast mic.
	It has a very clear profile.
	I would say it's closest competitor, and it's a dynamic mic, but the closest competitor is the RE20 from Electro Voice, which is an awesome mic, too.
	But I just love the look of the SM7B.
	So I would go with that for each of your hosts.
	It's expensive.
	What are these things?
	What do these cost new?
	So for the mixer, you're looking at about $600 to $700.
	You can get it used once for a little bit cheaper.
	Okay, I'm done.
	You can hang up on me now.
	Nice.
	Well, that's what I'm using.
	So if anyone wants to donate any money to help me get more podcasting, just go to store.curtisthornton.com and you'll see all kinds of ways that you can generously donate money to me in any increment you want to to help pay for all this expensive crap that I have that hasn't been used much lately.
	Radio activity?
	Yes.
	Hey, are you, I mean, like, are you pretty concerned with like the actual quality of the mic?
	Um, yes, I want I want something that sounds good.
	I mean, it doesn't have to be perfect, doesn't have to be perfect radio quality, but I don't want it to sound like crap.
	But I want something that looks nice and it looks cool on the desk so we can have fun with this.
	Well, I mean, you use the word hobby, and something I would always recommend to anybody as an option, if you can follow instructions and you can solder, I would recommend you go buy yourself an MXL 990, which is a great condenser microphone.
	And you can buy it used, you can buy it not working because all you care about is the shell, the outside of the microphone.
	Because what you can do is go to microphone-parts.com and you can buy a new board, and it'll come with a kit where you put together a new board, you replace the diaphragm, and you basically rebuild the mic, and all in between the mic itself and the part kit that you're going to get from microphoneparts.com, microphone-parts.com.
	I'd say all in, you're probably going to be at around 250 to 275.
	But you will have, if you put it together correctly, you'll have a microphone that's on par with a $2,000 Neumann U87AI.
	And you'll pick up your neighbor across the street taking a piss.
	But does it look cool?
	I think the MXL 990 looks great.
	Go take a look at it.
	Yeah, I've got one of those too.
	The only thing about it is it is going to pick up.
	You're going to have to be in a room that is well prepared to not have a lot of audio reflection.
	Well, I'm using the mic that I built from parts there right now.
	And for my mic processor, I'm using a DBX 286S.
	And this room is entirely unsuited for this sort of thing.
	But I'm guessing I probably sound okay.
	Yeah, you do.
	No, I'm not knocking that mic at all.
	I'm just saying it's a really good thing.
	No, I'm saying that you don't have to care so much about the room if you get some mic processing that'll take care of that.
	I have blankets.
	That'll help.
	I mean, it's not going to hurt, that's for sure.
	Yes.
	I remember studios in the 60s and 70s, they would build the recording rooms with no parallel walls.
	Everything was weird-shaped.
	It looked very crazy.
	Well, that's why I bought the house I live in because it's the same way.
	There's nothing standard about the wall setup on it, specifically because 10 years ago when I bought it, I was concerned about my future career in podcasting.
	So how does the price of the Sure SM7B compared to the MXL 990?
	You can get an MXL 990 for really cheap.
	I have one of those as well.
	I've talked for years and I've never done it to send it over to Michael to have him upgrade it for me, which I could probably do it myself too, but I trust him more than me to work with it.
	But you can get them on eBay for really cheap.
	You can buy an MXL 990 used for probably $15, but you don't care about what's inside it.
	If you're going to do this thing from the microphone-parts.com, you only care about the external chassis of the microphone.
	The guts are going to go.
	Go ahead.
	I know how to solder.
	Are you making fun of my solder pronunciation, sir?
	I guess I am, yes.
	You know, as I said, The hydrocodone makes me very sensitive to being made fun of.
	There could be tears.
	Your career in radio podcasting is already a success, radio A. If you've made him cry, then you're set.
	You're like the frost of podcasting.
	Wow, I didn't even try.
	Even better.
	That's how all the greats do it.
	But if you don't want to bother with any of this bull crap, if you don't feel like soldering, if you don't feel like ordering parts, then just go get yourself a good...
	I mean, hell, even if you bought the MXL 990 brand new at about $50 or $55, something like that, and just used it as it came, that's a great mic.
	I mean, I was really impressed with it.
	And in fact, I used it as it came for probably a couple years before I modded it.
	But that's the difference between whether you want a condenser mic or a dynamic mic, which the sure that Curtis is talking about is a dynamic mic.
	If you're going to use a condenser mic, because they're so sensitive because they have, I guess at least it sounds to my ears like a condenser mic has a much wider frequency response and they just catch everything.
	And if you're going to go with a condenser mic, you're going to have to get some sort of mic processing or you're going to have to apply that mic processing in post.
	And there are plug-ins and various audio editing suites that you may use that will approximate the effect of using a hardware microphone processor of some sort.
	And that'll give you some noise gating.
	It'll eliminate noise.
	It'll eliminate audio, ambient audio.
	If you're in a hard room that doesn't have any soft surfaces, there's going to be a lot of ambient sound with your voice bouncing around as you speak.
	So you need to do something about that.
	Well, and some of the problems.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, I'm just saying this MXL sounds like the way to go if I can get one for under $100 new and then I want to upgrade it.
	I do know how to solder.
	And I mean, it's something I'm a techner.
	I do enjoy that sort of thing.
	That sounds like fun.
	You would love it.
	And I really mean it.
	Someone posted a link to a Neumann U87AI.
	And actually, it might even be more expensive than I thought.
	They're listing it for $3,200 here.
	And this microphone is literally on par with this Neumann after you make these modifications to it.
	Those Neumanns used to have a gold diaphragm inside of them.
	I don't know if they still make them that way.
	The diaphragm and this one, I think, is gold, I think.
	In the MXL.
	After the mod, yes.
	After the mod.
	Oh, the mod.
	Okay.
	Yeah, the MXL is really just ends up being a shell for you.
	And it's a very, very basic mic before you do that mod.
	But it works.
	I mean, I bought that mic initially after I bought a processor on the recommendation of MV to do it.
	And it worked well.
	It wasn't until I found out how bad the noise in my room was that I switched to the dynamic.
	Also, the dynamic just gives that the radio voice.
	It gives it better, which I could do anything.
	I need anything I can to make myself sound okay before you guys are going to just turn off the podcast.
	So a mic like this helps because it doesn't have as much range as a condenser does.
	So it helps out for that with me too.
	Okay, that's great.
	Can I ask you about the mixer, this Behringer XR18?
	How many inputs does it have?
	Does it have the V-minus so we can hear?
	Yeah, the mix minus.
	Yeah.
	So yeah, the Behringer, the XR18 has 18 inputs.
	And the only reason to go up to the 18, because there is a 12, a 16, and an 18.
	I have the 18 desktop model, the X18, and it's very similar to the XR.
	The only difference is the XR is more portable and it has XLR inputs and outputs everywhere, where the one I have has XLR inputs and TRS outputs.
	But it gives you, at the 18 level, you get six independent sends or outputs, which all can do mix minus.
	It's got an interface.
	You have to use a computer or a tablet to control the interface or control the mixer because there is no direct board.
	There's no faders or knobs or anything to control it.
	So you have to use software.
	So I've got right now for my setup.
	Oh.
	Yeah, which I like that because then you can save scenes.
	Mac.
	Mac, Android, iOS, Windows.
	It works with everything.
	And it's nice because right now I've got an Android phone in front of me that I'm using specifically for muting channels when I need to and to control the levels on the stream.
	So that send is completely controlled on one Android.
	Then I've got a Windows touchscreen laptop that has the main faders and everything on it too that I can use.
	So I'm set for multiple configurations quickly.
	But I can save different scenes inside it that so I can have like before going live, which won't matter for you if you're doing canned podcasts.
	But if I just want to play music and have a conversation with the people that are going to be co-hosting with me, but not have you hear that on the live stream before we start the show, I can do that with a scene without having to do anything other than press one button and then switch it over to my live setup.
	And then when you're working with people and you just get different tweaks you do for it, whether it's a live radio show or a live music performance, you can save your settings into a scene, which is really nice.
	On the 18, the biggest benefit is it has what's called ultranet, which is an Ethernet-based connection to where you can add up to, I think, six or 16 different interface boxes that would give different mix minus setups on it if you wanted to do it.
	So like if you were doing a live band and they weren't going to have any actual monitors or live, gosh, I can't think what they're calling it.
	Well, yeah, monitors out on stage.
	They wanted to do everything.
	Stage monitors.
	Yeah, stage monitors, right?
	If they all wanted to do in-ear mixes, then you could use that to have Ethernet going to the stage for each of their in-ears.
	So typically they do wireless at that point or some wired connection from the P16 box, which is the external.
	But it's nice because then you have that expandability to where I could have, I have six SINs that all can do independent mix minus of each other, but then I could potentially have 16 more of them if I wanted to spend the money to buy $150 device to connect to it through Ethernet, which is nice.
	Expanded.
	So what does this thing look like?
	It's just a box with connectors?
	Yeah, it's just a small box.
	I mean, it's rack mountable.
	That's the other nice thing about the XR18 versus the X18 that I have.
	The one I have is just a desktop version of it that has like this dumb dock area where you could put a tablet in, which I've never used.
	I have the thing just sitting on a shelf out of the way.
	But the XR18, you can put it in a rack and then you're good to go.
	And it just plugs in USB.
	Yeah, you plug it in USB to your computer and that gives you an audio interface.
	But then it's also wireless or Ethernet for controlling it.
	So like I do wired.
	Yeah, so he uses Ethernet for your computer to connect to it.
	But then you can also do wireless or you just plug it into a router and then it's up to you how you want to connect to it.
	For what he wants to do, though, isn't that like way overkill?
	I mean, that's an expensive higher end mixer, isn't it?
	Well, they have a higher end.
	If you went with the Midas version of it, it's like three times the price, I think.
	But it's the lower end.
	How much?
	If you want to get the lowest end with only 12 inputs, it's like $400.
	that's not terrible yeah the thing is though that this thing does that'll work Yeah, it's got built-in compression, noise gate, effects.
	You've got on the low-end 12, you only get four Mix-minus, or you get four sends, which all can have independent Mix-minus configurations on it.
	It's a really flexible setup.
	And you can also, if you get the 18, you can do something I really like, which is auto mix.
	And with that, I can have the different people who are connected to me on Skype for like a live show.
	Or if I were doing a conference where I had a bunch of mics, had a panel discussion, it'll automatically mix down or up the different channels of who's live.
	Like it'll, it'll detect real time and bring up the person who's talking and bring down the people who aren't talking.
	So you don't get a bunch of craziness and it'll take out automatically feedback for you.
	See, my issue here is that I've now, over the years, owned three or four different Behringer mixers, and every one of them has been just a horrible experience.
	And I'm done with Behringer mixers.
	In fact, the mixer I'm using now is some weird thing that I bought at a, there's a little guitar store across the river in southern Illinois.
	And I was in there with a buddy of mine one day, and I saw this mixer sitting there.
	And they said, yeah, I will sell it to you for $100.
	And I thought, well, what the hell?
	And I tested it out.
	Everything seemed okay.
	So I bought it.
	It's a CMX1642.
	And I had never heard of this, never seen it.
	It's weird, but man, this thing is just absolutely rock solid relative to any Behringer I've ever owned.
	No scratchiness in the pots.
	Every Behringer I've ever owned has had scratchy pots.
	They're incredibly sensitive to dust.
	And the last Behringer I owned, I actually had to open it up and get into the power supply unit and start replacing bad caps.
	It's just, I'm kind of done.
	I'm just kind of done with Behringer, really.
	Well, Behringer is now owned by Music Group, and it's a completely different setup than it used to be.
	The other thing, this is a digital mixer.
	So the problem with dust isn't as bad of a problem.
	Well, that's true.
	Because you don't have faders anymore.
	But I just mean overall, philosophically, I've just said, you know what?
	I can understand that.
	I just don't really want to buy anything with a Behringer name on it anymore.
	Yeah, I can.
	What would you recommend for me?
	I don't know.
	Maybe Mackey.
	Or you could try what Alan and Heath.
	Alan and Heath is probably the best I would say.
	I've recommended those to a few friends that have worked out well.
	Or you could try what Curtis is talking about.
	I mean, it is a digital mixer, so you're not going to have to worry about dust getting into the pots.
	400 is not a terrible amount of money to spend on a mixer.
	It would obviate the need for you to buy a separate microphone processing unit.
	And, you know, a couple other things.
	So, I mean, that may be the way to go.
	I mean, it sounds to me like that is just not what I have purchased from Behringer in the past.
	It sounds like it's an entirely different universe.
	So that may be okay for you, you know?
	Behringer X12.
	Yeah, I would say try that.
	We've got someone else on the line here from an unknown unknown number.
	Who is our mystery caller?
	Hey, how you going?
	It's DeBlues from the chat room.
	How you going?
	I'm buddy.
	Pretty good.
	How are you?
	Hey, yeah, I just thought, I was just listening to the chat about the podcast and stuff.
	And also, good to hear you guys back on the air a little more.
	It's always good.
	Yeah, I just thought I'd suggest maybe a simpler.
	I mean, there was a whole lot of gear information that just got spewed out, which is awesome.
	I love that sort of stuff.
	But for someone getting into it, how about like a four-channel sound card?
	Two mics aligned from whatever they want to play music from into a just into a door, like a recording software piece of software.
	I think that might be, if everything's just not live, if you're just doing it so they can record it offline, that would be just get to know some software and layer it up later.
	That would be the most cost-effective probably way to do it.
	Once you start getting into lots of hardware, you don't really need it.
	It kind of just gets too confusing.
	You get a four-channel sound card for a couple hundred bucks.
	I agree.
	I mean, that's pretty easy.
	Like, everything you said there totally could work.
	The only problem is the limited flexibility as you grow forward because you're probably at that point buying since you're since you're going to be using a sound card that doesn't have the mic preamp to handle anything powerful, you're probably going to buy a USB microphone, and that's a dead end for you.
	You're not going to.
	No, no, no.
	Most USB sound interface cards have like 90% of them now have preamps.
	Well, if you're buying a higher end one, like if you're getting like a Scarlet or Personas.
	Don't buy Scarlet.
	Yeah, I have too many of those.
	And they are kind of annoying, but they work.
	Sort of.
	Yeah, so the issue there is that the money you're spending there, you could also spend towards equipment that'll become more flexible later as you grow.
	Well, when I think about your solution.
	Oh, sorry, go ahead.
	Well, when I think about your solution, like having an audio interface with, let's say, four inputs, the first thing that comes to my mind is, okay, what am I going to do with audio routing as far as calls, let's say?
	You know, if I need to take a call and I want to make sure that my co-hosts.
	Yeah, I want to make sure that my co-host, if I have one, is able to hear the caller.
	But at the same time, I want to make sure that the caller doesn't hear themselves coming back across the line.
	Oh, okay.
	I might have missed that while I was calling in.
	Yeah, there's a lot of stuff like that that a mixer addresses for you.
	And when people talk about mix minus, that's what they're referring to is the, like, if I look at my mixer here, I've got one of my pots is for my mic.
	The other one is for phone callers.
	The other one is for my co-host or co-hosts.
	The other is for any music that I play.
	And so, for instance, as I slide either one of those respective pots up, I want the audience to hear whatever's coming across that channel, including, let's say, the phone caller.
	But the catch there is if I slide the phone caller up, I want the audience to hear the phone caller, but I don't want that audio on that channel to be fed back to the caller because that's problematic.
	Yeah, at the same time.
	I was just thinking more along the lines of getting started, you know, like just to keep it simple.
	He ends up taking calls.
	You definitely need a mixer.
	But, you know, in terms of just getting going and see if you actually enjoy it, you know, and get a two-channel like M-Audio interface for peanuts even used and chuck a couple of decent mics.
	Even, you know what?
	I've had a chance to test a whole lot of really inexpensive mics off Amazon, like junk ones that I would never use or never think to use.
	And I've tried them on doing voice stuff here, and they actually don't sound too bad.
	But even some of the sub-$20 mics today aren't as bad as they used to be.
	While I probably wouldn't use them for any like professional recording stuff, they're actually, you know, just to get yourself going, it's not that hard, but once you start to, yeah, you're right.
	I think once you start to get the calls and stuff on board, that's when you sort of need a bit more know-how.
	Probably suggest to him too to check out as many tutorial videos on these mixes too, because, you know, getting to know them can sometimes take a lot of time.
	Good advice there, too, because you're right.
	There's a lot of awesome communities around any of the manufacturers you pick to go with.
	Behringer has great forums, but so like I said, Alan and Heath, I think it's the Z10 mixer.
	That's a really good mixer, too.
	It's not digital, but it's well known in the podcasting world too.
	And there's great communities around it.
	I like the idea of having sliders and flashing LED VU meters and making it really cool.
	And I also want to be able to take phone calls.
	A lot of the time it'll be my wife and I or a friend and I, but I'd like to be able to take phone calls also.
	And I'm not sure how to do that either.
	How do you get a potsline into this?
	Well, yeah, this is all stuff that needs to be dealt with on the side.
	It doesn't make for good radio.
	Let's just suffice it to say, you're going to need a mixer.
	I think you're going to need a mixer.
	And you're going to need to purchase the MV Moroccan phone support option too.
	While he's last question.
	Soundboards, soundboards.
	You guys played the Georgia Nori stuff.
	That is just hilarious.
	I would love to produce stuff like that.
	What software?
	What are you using?
	How's that done?
	We don't play a lot of it, okay?
	We don't play a lot of things.
	No, but I want a great deal of Nori stuff.
	Yeah, there's all kinds of ways you can do that.
	If you want to use an iPad or Android, there's free tools, like one called Soundboard, literally, that works for it.
	For PC, there's two that I use.
	And the first one was causing me trouble tonight.
	The reason why we were delayed was because I couldn't get it to log into or connect to my audio interface.
	So I had to switch to my backup one.
	But I use one called Soundbites, which is nice because it's more geared towards a radio station style cart system.
	At least it mirrors that.
	And then there's a free one called Jungle Jungle Palette, I believe.
	Jungle Love.
	Yes, that would be it.
	Driving me mad.
	Making me crazy.
	And here, hold on.
	I'll play.
	What I love about this is you get some canned audio stuff.
	Let's see if you guys can hear this.
	Yeah, I want to do an MV soundboard.
	With the jingle palette, you can do all this fun stuff.
	And it comes with a bunch of stuff like this, too.
	So I would recommend that as a free, easy choice to get started.
	All right, that'll get me going on an MV soundboard.
	That'll be fun.
	Nice.
	Oh, dear, Louis.
	What's it going to say?
	Oh, there's lots to choose from.
	Hey, I just want to shout out to a friend of mine, Texan, who's in the chat room tonight.
	What's going on, Texas?
	Thanks, guys.
	I appreciate your time.
	Thank you.
	We appreciate your phone call, sir.
	Now, if only I had...
	I think I'm about to run out of Skype credit, so I better get off the line as well.
	Oh, my.
	I broke non-Australian call rule, but hopefully you don't mind.
	Call often.
	So far, you don't have the ominous history of being an Australian caller to end a show.
	So call.
	No.
	No, I've only called once before.
	I spoke to you maybe, I don't know, about a year ago, a long time ago.
	But yeah, I'll make sure I call back in about five minutes.
	All right, guys.
	Man, please do.
	Thanks.
	See you, buddy.
	Yeah, okay.
	Yeah.
	Bye.
	Okay, we had a backlog there of people trying to call in too, but I felt it's important to let radio activity there take up some of our time because he is an aspiring podcaster.
	And then this show, as far as I'm concerned, when I'm in the controls, always stops for Aussies.
	So we went ahead and had that.
	So our other caller, which I believe was Star Mountain, if you want to call back in really quick, and there was a couple other people too that were trying to call, I'm going to guess it's Josh C J S H C 77 in the chat room is being very ominous about he has the ability to bring in guests and he wants you to host a radio show with him.
	I'm guessing he has to be your producer MV.
	So I really want him to call so he can do his pitch.
	He needs to do his elevator pitch to why you and him should become the biggest thing ever in podcast slash radio history.
	All right.
	Well, on that note, I need to go pee.
	Exactly.
	No, literally, I need to go pee.
	I'll be back.
	Okay, star.
	Mute your mic.
	Meet your mic.
	No, please take it with you.
	He's got such a nice mic, though.
	I want to hear the sound of whatever he's about to do.
	Hey, I have a tech question.
	Go ahead.
	So up where my woods are at, I don't get cell service.
	I mean, I can get maybe one bar, and sometimes I get enough signal to send a three-character text message.
	But there is LTE service around.
	I just don't get it where my woods are at.
	And I found these things are called signal cell boosters.
	Does anybody have any experience with those in fringe areas?
	I do.
	Is it a micro towel, do you know, signal booster?
	Gosh, I can look up the company real quick.
	I don't think that was the name of it.
	Okay, because there's so like the idea is it's almost like a repeater for the cell signal.
	It takes a weak signal and boosts it out.
	It's got an external antenna that you mount up on a rofer in a tree or somewhere and point it towards the nearest cell tower as a directional antenna.
	And then it's got a rebroadcast antenna for the interior of the building.
	Yeah, I've used those before with Sprint, and they've worked really well.
	Like in my area, it used to be if there wasn't an interstate close to you, then Sprint didn't work well.
	So I had one mounted like that on the, it was just on the side of a building that was pointed towards the interstate and then into the building.
	Then we had cell service inside it and it worked really well.
	So I would say that they're sorry, I just got an alert that it appears we're probably going to lose a lot of our listeners because Mr. Cinda just went live on YouTube.
	And of course, on my watch, I get immediate updates for any time he goes live there.
	So I apologize for cutting into his time, everybody.
	And if you're going to leave us to go watch that, I understand.
	But anyway, yeah, they work pretty well.
	Okay.
	Because I was worried about, I was worried about ordering it and then going up there because it's about a 200-mile drive to work where my property's at, and then it's trying to install it.
	And if it didn't work, having to send it back within a 30-day period.
	So I got to figure out a timing because it says it can't pull in a signal that's not there.
	Yeah, it's only going to be as good as what it can get a connection to.
	Yeah, I mean, every once in a while, when the conditions are just perfect, I can get a 3G signal, but it's very, very seldom I can even get a 3G signal ever.
	Okay, I'm back on my building.
	Well, we've moved on, MV.
	But do me a favor and PM me the model of what you buy.
	I've got a friend that I completely trust on these type of devices, and I can run it past him and see what he says too before.
	Or just ask him which one he'd recommend.
	I will send you the link.
	Okay.
	It looks like it's called WeBoost.
	We boost.
	I'll go ahead and send you the link.
	Wilson Amplifiers was another one I looked at.
	Okay.
	Actually, you can just put it in the GabCast thread if you want to.
	And then that way, anyone else who has an opinion on it, you filter out anything the one says, and then we'll see if something actually valuable comes out of it.
	We've got a caller.
	Area code 262.
	You are on the air.
	Come on, you know who 262 is.
	This is White Crow.
	Hello, White Crow.
	This is White Crow.
	The pleasure to talk to you tonight is MV.
	This is for MV.
	Is he still with us?
	Yeah, he has lost some fluids, and he might be hopped up on some heavy medication, but he's ready to receive your RO pleasure.
	Okay, well, kind of a geek cast here tonight.
	Not knowing in my league, I was still working on Windows 98, trying to get my computer to load that up from Windows 95.
	But anyway, as far as those mixers, I read them in this order: Warren, Coster, Sunbeam, Hamilton Beach.
	No, come on.
	I get where you go.
	I get where you're going.
	You talk about EC powered or EC powered.
	If you go to an old rummage cell and you find a Warren mixer, W80RN, buy it.
	Stamp it up.
	Do you recommend the mixers that you buy?
	Do they have, I forget what those are called, but the attachment to it, the metal, whatever, what are those called?
	Like for a handheld mixer.
	Blades?
	Blades?
	Wades?
	I don't know.
	I don't know what they are.
	Yeah, blades.
	I don't know.
	Blades.
	Yeah, the attachment to a different.
	Well, it depends on the motor.
	He has ones with different speeds, variable speeds, 10 speeds, multiple speeds.
	You just need the basic one.
	Paddles.
	Thank you, K-Dub.
	Folger's cat brought up an interesting quote that he attributed to you.
	It says, this is White Crow speaking.
	Answer my riddles if you ever want to find the bodies.
	Second item.
	Go ahead.
	Inboxes.
	I mean, boys, You guys are all like computer geeks, right?
	It's a pretty, I consider myself more of a tech geek.
	Pretty safe to say that, you know, you're all comput computer geeks, right?
	Go to go to your Google account and look at one of those drop-down members where you go to your trash and the scent, and we can choose which one you want to show on your phone or your computer.
	And it says, inboxes, all inboxes.
	You guys are just, you guys, whatever you can do to trash George.
	You need to retract that because I do all things with Mr. Cinda and friendship, okay?
	And you should end that right now.
	Yeah, you do, you do. You do, you do.
	Hey, Chris.
	Isn't Falke Medwitson?
	I apologize.
	That's okay.
	As long as it's retracted, I accept it.
	What did you say, Damon?
	I should have predicted you in an all guys.
	Well, inboxes, right there in Google.
	I checked your math when you were doing that, and it looks like it's correct.
	Yeah.
	Everything about everything.
	Mr. is that fat, you know, and use the word for S-H-I-T.
	Does anybody else use inboxes?
	Google.
	I think it goes back quite a ways.
	Anyway, is that pretty good rant?
	That was good.
	Well, all right.
	That's about all I got tonight, that's about 3% more than I had.
	So good job.
	Okay.
	We'll see you.
	And I keep that tech stuff going.
	I'm learning a lot.
	So are we.
	I appreciate it.
	Have a good night.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	Good night.
	Hey, Curtis, give that a call of D plus.
	Well, that's improvement.
	So we will take it.
	Hey, Curtis, did Falke call you a troll the other day?
	I was recently called a troll by him, and it really did hurt my feelings.
	I won't lie.
	But he apologized in the video, and I accept that apology.
	And not only that, but when I was listening to the, and I told MV this offline, I was listening to you and him on the Gabcast a couple days ago.
	And I only got to be a part of it for a little while because I had to go back into the real world and take care of my children.
	So I went back and listened to the episode later because, like, all good Bell Gabbers, I don't miss an episode of the Gabcast.
	So as I'm listening to it, you guys are talking about, I think MV specifically brought up Christian Chandler.
	Is that right?
	That's his name?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So he mentioned the documentary on that.
	I stopped right there, paused the episode, went to YouTube, watched the documentary, which everyone listening, if you haven't done it yet and you followed any of the seasons of Mr. Cinda, you need to do that.
	It's important.
	Watch that.
	Let your mind get blown and then go back to listening to the episode of the Gabcast.
	We call them seasons.
	They call them sagas.
	Yes.
	It is so crazy.
	Like I told in the conversation you and I had, like, I had this cognitive dissonance happening in my head where I couldn't figure out what felt wrong.
	And then I realized that I'm one of these characters in this documentary.
	It freaked me out.
	And I realized that if I'm not bringing anything new to the table, then I need to step away from the table.
	So, so, Damon, have you watched the documentary?
	Oh, not yet.
	I'll be watching it probably tomorrow.
	You need to.
	I'd like to say that you're probably the liquid Chris of it.
	Okay.
	Von Zeppelin in the chat room says Chris Chin was best when he was saving his sperm in the freezer and showing it off in YouTube videos.
	That's when he was at his best.
	What I found.
	You know, it's just been a decline from there.
	Everyone agrees.
	Everyone has that moment of greatness and then they can't live up to it afterwards.
	Saving sperm.
	It looks like semen, but it's not.
	I don't know if that came across as well for everybody else.
	You know, it's funny.
	I just had on my other tab on Firefox.
	I'm watching Falkey.
	He looks pissed off.
	I got a mutes, but he looks pissed off.
	It's funny.
	Well, probably because he had someone sending him emails about all kinds of nasty stuff.
	Because he did have a response to it.
	Was it Kelly?
	Yeah, apparently Kelly sent him an email, then Jill sent him an email.
	And I guess he went apeship.
	And I guess Kathy's on the phone with George.
	I just have it on mute.
	So this is funny.
	He's really moving around a lot.
	He's moving around a lot.
	Yeah.
	That's good.
	Yeah, I'm afraid he might get a heart attack.
	That's not a cardio.
	We don't want that.
	Right.
	He has now 10 people watching.
	What I thought was funny is on the most recent episode of his show that I watched, he got a live call from Tom Donheiser while he's on the air, and his cordless phone was up so loud that you could hear Tom on the line.
	I went back and listened to it three times just to make sure what I heard was right.
	Nothing new.
	There wasn't any kind of groundbreaking information came through the call other than clearly that's who it was.
	As soon as he recognized the fact that he was on a live stream, dude was off that phone as quick as he could.
	Yeah, so yeah, it's just funny just because I said I have on mute.
	It's just funny seeing Falkey.
	I never saw him move around that much.
	It's just funny.
	That's it.
	So Damon, I knew you had some other topics you wanted to talk about.
	Let's talk about changing off of from Falke go to like UFOs.
	Of course, where I live in the Mojave Desert near Edwards, Air Force Base, you see a lot of UFOs, quote-unquote UFOs.
	And my theory is 99.9% of them are man-made because you've got Plant 42 where I work out, a lot of the aircraft there.
	And they go to some of them, like when the Blackboard was built, they got shipped up to Area 51 built and little aircraft that goes on over.
	A lot of people see UFOs, of course, at nighttime, because that's where it's easier to move with other stuff.
	So do I believe that there's actually ETs with UFOs?
	Probably.
	I said there's probably that 0.1%.
	But if you really want to see some good UFOs as an identified flying objects, you should hang out near Boron, California, off of 58, Hobby 58.
	Then you see a lot of the quote-unquote UFOs because a lot of the visitors, the navigational beak attack out there, they line up and hit on outsource Area 51 and are coming back into Edwards and stuff.
	So that's a good place if you want to get some good UFOs and sightings.
	So have you seen something that you feel for sure is a UFO that falls into that small percentage?
	Yeah, there's a couple that I've seen.
	I can identify.
	I tried to Google it and I couldn't find any information on it.
	And I know it was near one of my fishing spots up in near Long Pine, California.
	They have good fishing.
	And it's like regular sunrise.
	So I know it's heading towards Area 51 going toward the east towards north of Nellis Air Force Base, basically Las Vegas.
	So I'm not, it's probably a U.S. government aircraft, but it's still that one percent chance that we could be an alien technology or a human alien hybrid of aircraft, something like that.
	So what's something that's not classified but would blow our mind that you've seen in your time?
	You're at Area 42, right?
	That's what I want to call it going forward.
	Yeah, plant 42.
	I'm going to call it Area 42.
	Oh, that'll work.
	That's more mysterious.
	Yeah, that'll work.
	Yeah, there's a lot of test aircraft that they do for technology and stuff for avionics and et cetera.
	And then a lot of times they do a lot of flights, basically at evening time and nighttime.
	So you see some do see some weird shapes.
	See, you hear the aircraft taking off, but sometimes they turn their anti-collision lights off and their beacons off.
	So it's kind of hard to identify them.
	You just, when the lights are just right, you can you see some sort of weird shape basically.
	So it's really hard to identify.
	So somewhere like big as like C-130s, you've seen them flying around.
	So yeah, that's that'll surprise you if it comes flying over you.
	Right.
	So, so, so, gravity.
	Did you see the picture of Vice President Pence and NASA checking out the Orion?
	Do not place hand here or whatever.
	Yes.
	That was great.
	Yeah, I saw that.
	Yeah.
	Have you seen any UFOs in your experience?
	Because you've been around places where if a UFO was going to check up on us, it would be a hotspot for that, right?
	The only time that I've seen a UFO, I was flying up to Wright Pat on a commercial, on a commercial flying into Cleveland for there's a NASA center up there, Glenn Research Center that's up close to there, up in near Cleveland, I guess.
	I guess I was flying into Cleveland.
	And we were somewhere over, I guess we were over Indiana at the time.
	We just turned, we just turned east.
	So we're probably over Illinois or Indiana.
	And we were at like 35,000, 36,000 feet.
	And up above on a perpendicular course, it had to be at least 30,000 feet higher than we were at.
	So now you're talking in the 60, maybe 65, 70,000 feet range.
	There was something booking.
	And I could tell it was man-made.
	I couldn't see it well enough to be able to pick out.
	I mean, it looked to me like it was like a bomber shape, but I mean, it was, you know, looking through, looking up through the double pane airline windows, it was hard to really see a shape of the aircraft, but it was going perpendicular to us.
	So it was heading from north to south, and it was going, it was probably going, probably going, I mean, it was, it was Mach 2 or Mach 3.
	I mean, it was, it was booking, and it was about 65,000, 70,000 feet.
	So we got something that, you know, I don't know how fast, I don't, I don't think the B-2 is not even supersonic, is it?
	The B-2 is high subsonics.
	Yeah, so it's so it's but this thing was going faster a lot, I mean, at least twice as fast as a commercial airline liner.
	So it was at least going, you know, Mach 2, I'd say closer to Mark III.
	And it was, like I said, perpendicular at 65,000, 70,000 feet.
	The only other thing that I've seen that spooked me, and I think it was just some really thin ice crystal clouds, because I only saw it right at sunset, and it was lights that looked like they were in a formation way up, way up towards the west as I was driving.
	And I looked at those things, and it wasn't like an iridium flare.
	I don't know if you've ever seen the iridium satellite flares, those things can spook you at sunset and sun up.
	The Motorola, the old Motorola Iridium satellite phone satellites, they had like 62 of them going on orbit.
	And they flew at a, I think they were like 480 nautical miles orbit.
	And they would streak across, and sometimes they would look like they were in formation because there were so many of them up there flying in different orbits.
	But whatever I saw this one day, it wasn't an iridium flare.
	It might have been some stationary objects.
	They weren't moving around, but I think it might have been some really high, just little wisps of ice crystal clouds that might have been catching a reflection.
	I was driving, so I didn't have binoculars or telescope or anything I could look at them with.
	And of course, when I saw that high-flying aircraft, it was one of the times that I shut off my iPhone and put it in my bag up above the deal.
	And ever since then, I go ahead and carry my iPhone on airplane mode so that I can at least take a picture or a video of something like that if I see it again.
	I'm always looking, I'm always looking up, and I'm always looking out the window when I'm driving when I'm in an airplane.
	So even I just haven't seen anything else.
	So are you looking up because you want to see the next man-made ship, or are you looking for something extraterrestrial?
	I think a combination of both.
	I think most of the UFO stuff is bullshit.
	I don't know if I believe any abduction story, but who knows?
	I mean, if it happened to me, I'd believe it.
	But when you have, I mean, you start hearing people that start getting abducted as a child and get abducted through their lifetime and go ahead and channel the aliens and they have their own special keeper that keeps showing up and taking them.
	And I just, I just can't buy all that shit.
	Yeah, it feels like it's entertaining, but it's not something I could, I mean, it stretches my place too far.
	See, if I had been abducted by aliens and probed or whatever for years, I don't think I would be promoting it to the world.
	I might tell a few close people to me, but I don't think I'd be promoting it nationally.
	When Whitley Striber came out of that book, it came out with that damn book, and I started hearing him discussing all that shit.
	I started getting these memories.
	And I couldn't tell if they were memories or they were dreams about being in a glass-lined room with people dressed in white doing something to me and doing something to my head and talking to me.
	And my mother died when I was 17 or 18, so I couldn't ask her.
	And one time, luckily, before my grandmother died, I asked her about it.
	And she goes, There's no way you can remember that.
	You were 18 months old, and they thought you had epilepsy because you had seizures.
	So they took you in to this room and put wires on your head.
	And man, but when Whitley Striber was talking about being put in the sterilized room and having these people out, you know, doing shit to him and everything else, it was freaking me out.
	That is wild.
	That's an interesting story right there.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I didn't know if it was repressed memories or dreams, you know, visions of dreams I was having, but it turns out that it was, it was like I was 18 months old and I had to go in, you know, three or four different times to have these EEG tests where they taped wires on my head and had me drink this stuff and put me to sleep and monitor my brainwaves.
	That's wild.
	Well, you know, the thing about that too is so much of our media, movies, TV shows, books, tell stories similar to the Whitley Streeber story.
	That, so let's say you didn't actually have a real world experience at 18 months old, but you had been a fan of science fiction your whole life.
	It'd be very easy to generate a story like that in your head and make it feel similar to what everyone else is saying because it's been fed by our mass media for so many years that, like, if you're going to have a story different than that, you would, your brain would reject it because it hasn't been preconditioned to think that that's possible, even if it isn't a fantasy world.
	And that's that's what caused me to, I mean, it was freaking me out.
	That's what caused me to seek it out and go to Michigan and ask my grandmother about it and specifically ask her, you know, grandma, what is this?
	Are these dreams I'm having or is this memories?
	Because it was, it was, it was like an observation room where they had these big windows, but they had blinds on, you know, blinds on them.
	And I can remember this woman that tells me that if I behave this time and lay still, they can use jelly to put the wires on.
	They won't have to tape them on my head like last time.
	I mean, I remember hearing that voice, you know, I remember those words.
	After all these years, do you know what your activation word is yet?
	No, no, no.
	I keep, I go ahead and keep locks on all my guns just in case I get the wrong word.
	Well, we've got a caller on the line who may or may not have been your handler.
	So let's go ahead and go to this caller.
	You're on the air.
	Hello.
	No, not the handler.
	Oh, this is the fluffer.
	Nothing.
	The what?
	I didn't hear that.
	You said you're the fluffer.
	Not a star.
	If you're not clear, that's the person who blows people before they roll camera.
	Thoughts?
	I'm going to hang up.
	No, wait.
	You have the.
	I didn't realize.
	Here's how sad I am.
	Okay.
	And there's all kinds of ways that you can say that I'm sad.
	I have yet to been hired for that fluffer job that I've applied for 20 times.
	The interview process, man, it's rough.
	Oh, right.
	Now, why Piece called me a fluffer?
	I remember when I didn't know when that was.
	Three minutes ago?
	No, that's when I forgot.
	No, when I didn't know, that was few years ago.
	Wait, since your last job in the industry or what?
	This is not going well.
	Okay.
	So I'll give it a seven.
	Reset.
	So what I was going to say is, I didn't know until recently the connection of your screen name on Bell Gab and the Phoenix Lights.
	But Star Mountain is the mountain that's going to be.
	No.
	What?
	Isn't that right?
	No, no, no.
	Nope.
	Actually, Star was a pretty nice, my first married name.
	And at the time when I first got online, it was on Mount Baldy.
	And so it was a combination of the mountain and my and the former name, which is a lot prettier than my current last name.
	So there's not a connection?
	Simple.
	Nope.
	Well, I saw something on TV that talked about Star Mountain and the Phoenix Lights.
	And I thought, oh, that's where she got her name from.
	No, no.
	Show me.
	I would just need the link.
	I'd like to see that.
	I had no idea about that.
	Maybe I'm wrong.
	It'd be the first time that's ever happened, but I could be wrong.
	I don't know.
	But well, the first time I registered Star Mountain as my name, you know how many people already have that name?
	And I had to revise it.
	And finally, that's why it was the abbreviated Mountain in Star Mountain and with the numbers after it.
	And I finally got a clearance and no one had that particular arrangement.
	But there were a gazillion Star Mountains one, and that was in the 90s.
	Because there's a million star mountains.
	Okay, so I'm looking really quick.
	Phoenix Lights revisited.
	This is a YouTube video that I'm not going to play right now, but it says Sierra Estrella can be translated as Star Mountain.
	And that's one of the mountains that the sightings happened near.
	So I thought that you were just playing off of the Phoenix Lights.
	Nope, nope.
	This was from Mount Balding, California, and my first, oh, the last, my last name for my first marriage.
	Were you married to a man named Jack?
	No.
	It would explain why he's crazy if you're not married to him anymore.
	Well, got divorced.
	He just couldn't give up those legs.
	And I got drove him mad.
	And I got divorced a second time, and I just never bothered to change my name back to my maiden name.
	Whose fault was the divorce?
	Was it your fault?
	Oh, of course.
	It's always my fault.
	Because that's what the forum has been saying.
	I just wanted to validate that information.
	The PM about it, actually, that was talking about all the different ways that you were to blame for it.
	Yeah, well, it's my fault.
	See how much power I have, though?
	Yeah, well, here's my question.
	Why not go for the third time?
	I mean, Jackstar's around.
	He's got a thread about looking for a girlfriend.
	Your last name was Star at some point.
	So, I mean, it's, I don't know how there's not a match made in, you know, paranormal history right here.
	You don't even need to go to paranormal date.
	Just send me a check for 50 bucks and we'll call it even.
	No, that's not going to work either because there's okay.
	No check.
	Just somebody kind of special.
	And it's, I'm afraid it's not Jack Star.
	How about this?
	Okay.
	I want to be the ring bearer at the wedding.
	MV can officiate at it.
	Damon can be the best man.
	Gravity sucks, can be an usher.
	This will be the best wedding of Belgab history.
	Yes, it will be.
	No.
	Okay.
	Is there anyone else?
	Like, who would you want to be trapped in an elevator with from Belgab?
	I'll bring you pick Briggs?
	It isn't who, but how many?
	I'd like to have the whole old crew.
	Who's the old crew?
	All the all the go ahead.
	Wait, hold on.
	Before you say anything else, I'm prepared for you to say anagrammy.
	My mouse is right over the end call button.
	So go ahead.
	Who's on your list?
	Oh, okay.
	Well, all the ones that haven't been banned.
	See, I would like to be in an elevator with all the ones who have been banned because I think the trip would be more interesting.
	Oh, yeah, that's true, too.
	But the reason I called in was to ask MZ since he's now made it harder to post pictures like sunsets and thunderstorms and stuff to post how to do the URL thingy for all the tick dummies who are trying to figure that stuff out.
	Did you see in the post where I announced the change where I outlined how to do it?
	No, I didn't.
	I'll have to go back and look.
	Well, I did, sweetie.
	Take another look over there.
	Read.
	Hey, I sure will.
	I hope you're doing better, MV.
	I'm sorry.
	This fucking tears.
	I'm not feeling well.
	Yeah, I'm not.
	I'm all pilled out.
	What can I say?
	Our show really stands for you to maybe have another two hurting.
	Hey, everybody, think good thoughts.
	Clap your hands.
	Whatever you need to do to help MV get better in the chat room.
	Do it now.
	Help me, people.
	I agree.
	Let's do a thought experiment here.
	Who wants to lead us in this?
	We need someone who is qualified to get everyone together and channel their energy into the success of MV feeling better.
	I'm going to nominate this mass healing on MV.
	It works.
	Art Bell used to do it before it figured him out.
	So, yeah.
	Maybe it works.
	They even got Rush Limbaugh's hearing back.
	Do you remember that episode?
	Well, actually, that was the doctor who implanted the cochlear implant.
	That's the technicality.
	The science had nothing to do with it.
	Get it right.
	I know one way to make MV feel better.
	Yeah, I played some music for us to go along with this too.
	Go ahead.
	We can take Falky to where MV is at.
	And now it's a good way to help MV get better.
	That music.
	Is that supposed to make me feel better?
	I was going to say, if you're going to play that, you may as well just play audio of gay men having sex.
	Let's hope that makes me better.
	This is because I recorded at the bar last night.
	This isn't supposed to make you feel better.
	This is supposed to put everyone in the listening audience in the right frame of mind.
	And I found that trans music is good for that so that we can do this thought experiment.
	But fine, if you guys aren't feeling it.
	It's not the same without Jazzmunda here.
	Oh, I don't have Easter music.
	No.
	Oh, speaking of Jazz, how is Jazz Jazmunda doing?
	Has anybody talked to him lately?
	Yeah, he's doing well.
	He is, let me see if I can say this correctly.
	He's on holiday and enjoying himself.
	Okay.
	So does that mean he's directing and producing right a lot of horse porn?
	Well, he's at least consuming a lot of horse porn.
	I know that.
	I know that for a fact because I have a Dropbox account I send them to and I track to see how many views each picture has.
	Okay.
	Next time you talk to him, tell me I said hello.
	I will.
	I will do so.
	I'm trying to get him lined up to do an episode of the Bell File soon where we can sit and talk.
	It won't be really Bell Files focused, but to talk about Game of Thrones because Game of Thrones is coming back soon.
	And I happen to be obsessed with that show.
	Chris, I know we talked, I think, last week, an idea in October, we can go to maybe go to Perump and talk to Art Bell.
	Yeah, I like that idea too, because I will be in Vegas, you know, trying to win the house.
	So I'm all for that.
	We need to take an excursion to Perump.
	Maybe over to the Bunny Ranch, too.
	You could try to get some pictures and videos of the Alexander Bell baby.
	You think they're going to let me that close to be able to do that?
	Will they notice?
	What'd you say?
	Take your drone.
	There you go.
	You don't think he'll shoot it down, though?
	He might.
	I don't know.
	Or does he have anti-drone technology set up already at his place?
	I'll just ask producer Paul.
	We'll like see if we can get stop by and we'll do another.
	It's been a little over a year since we did the last Bell Files episode that included art in it, kind of our send-off for that.
	And I tried to get him and Heather together to do a reprise of that and just say, Hey, I think, how are things going?
	And what's the future of Midnight in the Desert?
	Let's do that on the one-year anniversary.
	And at first, I got a okay, let's look into it.
	And then when I sent the message saying, Okay, well, what do you want to look into?
	I never got a response back.
	So I think I'm off.
	That's a shame.
	There's a good place right outside of Vegas, like on the 15th and Baker, California.
	I'm going to put the link in the chat.
	It's called Alien Fresh Jerky.
	It's a UFO theme.
	They got like beef jerky.
	This stuff is kind of cool.
	It's based on space aliens and stuff.
	So is it actually space alien meat?
	Because I'm a vegetarian, but I don't think that covers.
	They do have a vegan approved jerky.
	It's like in a good sense of humor.
	You can go to the link that I put it in the chat.
	And it's a cool place.
	I always stop there right after I go to Vegas.
	So I see the link that says Alien Fresh Jerky.
	Are you sure this is about beef jerky and not like fluffers?
	Alien fluffers like from Mexico crossing the border illegally?
	There are some people of Hispanic descent in that area.
	So you never know.
	Well, one question.
	Speaking of this, Star: How have you found illegal immigration to affect your ability to get roles as a fluffer lately?
	Oh, me?
	Yeah.
	I don't live in California.
	I can't even tell you.
	Do you think if they were to build a wall that would help reduce the amount of people in the industry that are trying to take your jobs from you?
	No, I got you got plenty of work.
	Oh, well, I saw some fold.
	I didn't wear folding than what's your opinions on polygamy?
	Oh, as many people as you can, I guess.
	I'm multitasking here.
	I just got a you're rebuilding a tranny I can't hear very well on the phone.
	I should have Skyped.
	Is there something in your ear?
	Is there something in my ear that would you?
	It said rear, yeah.
	Uh-oh.
	Baskettios.
	Okay, just lost you there.
	I could hear you starting up and trying to get back.
	And we're back.
	We're back.
	We're back.
	I don't know what happened.
	That was interesting.
	We took a brief station ID break.
	Yes.
	You're listening to nothing but the hits on UFO ship radio.
	Up next, Ace of Base.
	That's how they do it.
	Yes.
	I sound like a pro, don't I?
	Okay, I'm going to hang out now.
	I got the thingy on the URL thingy, and thank you very much.
	And I will keep thinking good thoughts at you, MZ.
	Oh, thank you, sweetie.
	I really could use it.
	It's the wisdom tooth, bottom left-hand side.
	I'm just miserable.
	Send me your positive energy.
	I got a teeth thingy.
	Nan, that's the worst.
	That's the worst.
	Yeah, it's pretty bad.
	Okay, sweetheart.
	Well, you feel better if you can, and sending all the good healing and feel better stuff at him.
	Before you go, before you go, Star Mountain, somebody in the chat room says a woman drowned on semen a couple of weeks ago doing a uh porn film.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	I'm glad you and I both was gonna say that too.
	But sorry, let's clear the floor.
	She should have held her breath longer, yeah, at the very least.
	Well, you know, unless it's specifically stated in your contract, you can spit.
	Well, why don't they employ the use of snorkels?
	It's a perfectly reasonable instrument to use.
	Underwater porn, you know, makes very, very common use of snorkels for many different takes.
	Oh, hey, you know what?
	I just got put on oxygen here about a week or so ago.
	You say that almost in a celebratory way.
	Hey, like I said last week, Star, you're one step away from space travel, so you're farther ahead than I am.
	You know, from now on, when Star Mountain calls in, you should play David Bowie's Space Oddity just in the background.
	Oh, it sucks getting old.
	Don't do it.
	It's a trap.
	The alternative.
	Have you gone back to smoking, Star Mountain?
	No, I haven't.
	I'm still vaping.
	Oh, great.
	Good for you.
	You know, West Virginia, I used to have to travel to West Virginia for two weeks at a time.
	I mean, just I was commuting back and forth for NASA.
	And that's the only place I've ever seen people waiting to buy a carton of cigarettes while in one of those electric scooter carts in Walmart with an oxygen bottle.
	Really?
	I imagine there's places in Kentucky that are probably like that too.
	But I mean, and I mean, in a regular basis, like every time I went to Walmart, I would see somebody with an oxygen bottle buying cigarettes.
	It's funny because I spent a week in West Virginia for work once too.
	And I could not, I was actually scared they weren't going to let me out of the state.
	I was nervous looking over my shoulder constantly.
	It was the worst week ever.
	You know, that's where they invented the toothbrush.
	If it would have been invented anywhere else, it would have been called a teethbrush.
	I have direct evidence to prove you are correct on that one.
	I mean, even Kentucky has to have someone to look down on.
	We know something.
	It seems to me that if I were on an oxygen tank, that would be a little bit depressing and just it wouldn't be particularly relaxing.
	So I might want to buy a cigarette just to relax and not be so bothered by that.
	You take the edge off, is what you're saying.
	Yeah.
	Something about an ignition source next to a bottle of oxygen makes me nervous.
	Could be a real blast.
	Oh, what are you, Bill Nye, the science guy?
	Stop it with your science-y stuff.
	Okay.
	Don't get me started on Bill Nye.
	Which was it, the Gemini crew or early Apollo?
	Which one was the one that Apollo 1?
	Okay.
	Yeah, they learned, unfortunately, that oxygen wasn't the best pure source of pure oxygen is very corrosive.
	Is it?
	So metal and pure oxygen.
	Well, you know what I'm saying.
	All right, star.
	Give us words of wisdom.
	In five words or less, what's something that's going to make our lives better?
	Listen to your heart.
	That's four words.
	A stethoscope.
	Okay.
	Bye-bye.
	Have fun, Kate.
	You should have said, listen to your heart, guys.
	That would have fulfilled the criteria.
	Yes.
	So, unfortunately, we can't use that advice, but thanks for trying.
	Play again, please.
	So, YP, you need to call in, too.
	I saw you gave us that tidbit of information about the unfortunate drowning that occurred.
	So, what would you have done differently if you had been the paramedic in that situation?
	Damon, tell me about UFO Hotel.
	Our sponsor for tonight's show.
	UFO Hotel, they're going to, if you want an Alice World experience, you should go there.
	And this is they're going to be building in Baker, California.
	And what can I get for my $150 for a night stay at the UFO Hotel?
	A happy ending by illegal aliens.
	Will there be a fluffer on staff?
	Yes, there's one on call.
	I would prefer a gray, please.
	Okay, okay.
	All right, thank you.
	You're welcome.
	Which type of alien of all of the proposed types that have occurred in the Art Bell world would you most like to meet in public?
	Like you're walking down the street and you see this alien for the first time.
	Do you want a reptilian?
	Do you want a gray?
	Do you want a black?
	You have to go to Nordic.
	You'd have to go to Nordic, man.
	Once you go to Nordic, you won't go back.
	But if you do encounter a grade, when they probe you, will they check your prostate to make sure you have a healthy prostate?
	For $50 extra, sure.
	Okay.
	Okay, hold on.
	Let's see if this fulfills my dream there.
	Caller, you're on the line.
	We're going to call.
	Let's see if this fulfills my.
	I can hear myself.
	Please turn down your device.
	Yes.
	How are you?
	Steve.
	Doing well.
	How are you?
	Hello.
	Hi.
	Can you hear me?
	Hello, Governor.
	Hello, mate.
	I'll sing.
	What's that then?
	What's he talking about then?
	What's he fucking talking about?
	She's a fucking fucking talent.
	Okay.
	What would you have done if you had been there and this lady's drowning?
	You'd saved her life, right?
	Well, I've thought long and hard about this.
	I've thought hard about it.
	Well, at least 20 seconds.
	I gave it at least 20 seconds of my very valuable attention.
	And I thought, well, if she's drowning on semen, to paraphrase the line in the film airplane, you know, they bought their tickets, let them crash.
	I said, well, if she volunteered to do the film, then let her drown.
	When I got my rescue diver certification, they taught us that chest compressions were much more important than doing mouth-to-mouth breath resuscitation.
	So now I think I know where they learned that.
	They must have come across somebody like her.
	Reading the report, the guy who was an ex-paramedic apparently took pains to actually clear her mouth out first before he gave her mouth-to-mouth.
	So I thought that was, you know, he was trying to do his best, obviously, wasn't he?
	Yeah.
	That was nice of him, at least.
	I mean, I thought so.
	I've always heard really good advice is that if you're going to die of drowning, be sure your mouth is clean.
	So he did her a favor.
	You know, I guess two pieces of advice.
	One would be wear a clean pair of underwear, but that's kind of hard to do in a porn set from what I understand.
	It is indeed.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, apparently.
	I mean, apparently, yeah.
	I mean, I usually take two pairs, but that's never enough.
	What to a porn film?
	Right.
	Yeah.
	What to what you're all to participate?
	What's my what's my role in it?
	I said, you take two pairs of underwear, but are you going to watch, or are you going to go and participate?
	Well, both I'm going to watch until they're out of film, not even participate.
	Oh, all right.
	Well, you know, they don't have enough footage to contain what would happen if they had a ginger on there.
	Remember, I have no soul.
	Okay, I'm back.
	Yeah, you have no soul.
	So, here, so here's the true here's a true story from my childhood.
	I asked my mother, I said, Mom, these kids around school are telling me this joke, and every time, every time they tell this joke, everybody starts laughing, and I just don't get it.
	I mean, I was like 11 or 12 years old, right?
	So, she goes, Okay, what is it?
	I said, All right, what's gray and comes in courts?
	And she goes, I don't know what elephants she just about totaled the car, and then when she stopped gagging and laughing, she actually took time to explain it to me.
	Well, from the sets I've been on, I would find that joke to be correct.
	Do I have to draw you a picture?
	Would you please?
	A picture would be good and slides and a PowerPoint and a PowerPoint because we'll get closer to go ahead and do an animation.
	Uh, but please make sure to link to it from the appropriate approved uh image site.
	Don't try to upload it, don't uplink it.
	There's an attachment, yeah, yeah, because you can't put attachments bargaining ice hole.
	Well, you know, the one bought the forum, and it's just never been the same.
	This really isn't an interview we've been talking to.
	This is actually the one I didn't want to spring it upon you guys, but they do sound very similar.
	Good one, sorry.
	This is new MV.
	This is new MVP.
	Oh, new MV.
	Yeah, and I'm going to make a request that everyone on the forum, anytime you quote anything that New MV does, make sure you edit the name to make it correct because he doesn't like when he doesn't like to see the earth.
	Go ahead.
	What kind of, I mean, I know, I know it's a commercial thing, and it's you know, things like money, it's a fairly sensitive thing.
	But how much has he actually offered you for the website?
	I'm sorry, I had my mic muted.
	Nobody's offered anybody anything for anything.
	I mean, he just started a thread and he's saying these things, and now you guys are asking me questions.
	And I'm just sitting here minding my own business.
	Nobody's offered anybody anything.
	Oh, no, so he's all his old mouth and no trousers in.
	Yeah, it's all rubbish.
	There's a lot of trousers on that complete rubber.
	What I had heard is that he had made a very, very robust offer of $33 and a George Cinda video clip, but I could be wrong.
	Well, if it gets me out of paying these monthly server bills, I'll take it exactly.
	Of course, back in the day, back in the day, I did offer it via nori gab.org back in the day.
	You own that?
	I don't have it anymore.
	I just let it lapse, basically.
	It served this purpose to trolling Falki.
	That was money you could have sent to Senda.
	I know, but everybody got a good laugh out of it.
	You let nori gab.what.org.
	Yeah, that'll work.
	I'm sure that one got snapped up really quick when you let it lapse there, didn't it?
	Oh, I put in the URL and nobody snagged it yet.
	I can't believe that.
	I put up for auction freeartbell.com because I owned that, and no one seemed to want to bid on it.
	So then before it lapsed, I wrote to the team over at Midnight in the Desert and said, Hey, if you want this, I'll transfer it to you guys so you have it, but you got to let me know.
	And they never said anything.
	So now freeartbell.com, probably the most premium domain name if you're a streamer of Art Bell episodes.
	Not that I condone that, is available and can be purchased by anyone for the low price of $12.99 on hover.com.
	We should buy it and then put a pirated coast to coast Nori broadcasts on it because he gets it.
	He does get it.
	You're right.
	Who was it who just said you should have sent the money to Sender?
	That was me.
	That was Gravity.
	Why?
	Why?
	Well, I mean, why spend the money on a domain name when you could donate it to Sender?
	But why donate it to Sender?
	Because there was logic here.
	This is a lot.
	That was supposed to be humor.
	Nobody's laughing.
	Okay.
	I'll laugh.
	All right.
	Let's talk about fluffers.
	Yeah.
	So, so, YP, tell us, what do you have to do to break into the fluffer business?
	I've always been interested to find out.
	Well, you've got to have connections, obviously.
	You've got to know the right people.
	Do you do hard work on the streets just to get your name out there?
	Well, it also helps.
	You know, the knee pads, people who lay floors down on the knees, they're very useful.
	Especially after the first two or three hours.
	You're committed to the craft, man.
	Well, you know, I mean, inevitably, you get little imperfections in the floor and that.
	There's nothing hurts more than, you know, that little, you know, a bit like a two-brick Lego brick that sticks in your knee.
	You know, the sort of thing is those things are evil.
	I think, like, America.
	It's evil.
	Yeah, we don't need a wall in America between us and Mexico.
	We just need to put Lego bricks down across.
	And you'd be amazed how many porn film sets have Lego.
	It's incredible.
	Really?
	So there's a lot of crossover between Lego stop animation movies and porn.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah.
	That makes sense to why I spend money on Lego.com and on Pornhub.
	Absolutely.
	Nice.
	You know, I noticed the chat room, and I'm not blaming you for this, YP, because it happened a little bit ago, but the chat room dropped by people in there in half.
	So I'm wondering if something big is happening on SendaVision.
	Send the vision.
	Yeah, Falkey is bitching about Jill Stein and Kelly, the troll, basically.
	Isn't Jill Stein a political person?
	Yeah, she's a screen party.
	Green.
	Okay.
	I wasn't 100% for sure if that was correct, but thank you.
	You're welcome.
	It's good to know that her and Mr. Cinda have connected, though.
	Maybe they can work together to find a way to create world peace.
	Yeah, I'll be watching the Falkey cast just because he's really livid, basically.
	And so I'll be watching later either tonight or tomorrow and stuff because it's definitely entertaining to watch him move around.
	I thought I was going to stroke out.
	Well, do us a favor and give us a cliff notes version after you watch it.
	Okay, I'll give you guys an update later.
	Let me ask the group we've assembled here because I consider you all heavyweights in the topic.
	Should I do another George Cinda show podcast with Jazz and Mr. Cinda?
	It could do.
	I don't think he'll stay on the line very long.
	I don't think he will.
	I don't think he will.
	Well, I'm really sad that we never got to the chance of having him do an interview of somebody in the paranormal industry because I think that would have been interesting.
	And the chat room is a resounding no.
	Even Senda's wised up to the shoe dropping, hasn't he?
	I mean, he knows inevitably whether it's going to be five minutes or 25 minutes.
	He knows he's going to come around to, you know, just taking the fucking piss out of him, isn't he?
	You know, well, I mean, he can work that out.
	Well, even after watching that Chris Chan documentary, I think the key is you've got in all good comedy comes from understanding a little bit of the absurdity of yourself that going after the trolls just as hard as they do to you and understanding that's going to bring them back.
	They're going to punch harder after you punch them.
	And just having a thick skin, that's where your comedy comes from.
	And recognizing that could make him, you know, it could take him to the next step of maybe 1,400 subscribers.
	Am I wrong?
	No, you're not wrong.
	It's just we're delving into things that don't really apply to sender, aren't we?
	I mean, we're talking about a thick skin now.
	That's true.
	Radio A says talking about Plawkey as a dark hole that leads to frustration and misery.
	That sounds a lot like Yoda.
	Yoda talking about the dark side.
	Yeah, but it could be, he might be talking about his third eye, and that would lead to frustration and misery.
	That's true.
	You know, I paid $19.99 to get the tapes on how to open up my third eye, and all I got from it were hemorrhoids.
	Well, you could do a fucking idea, go to LA County Jails and get probed.
	That's the step I missed, wasn't it?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I wonder if he was there while Hogan was writing his book.
	Who?
	Hoagland?
	Yeah, didn't Hoagland write a book while he was in County Jail?
	That would be awesome if all the stories that followed.
	Why was Hoagland in the county jail?
	I don't think that anybody was able to find much more details.
	When it was, it was, I think it was in the 70s or 80s.
	Oh, I thought it was 19.5 months ago.
	Who wasn't in the county jail for a period in the 70s?
	Yeah, we've all done it, haven't we?
	Come on.
	Well, there was a state police barracks myself, but it wasn't really a county jail.
	That would scare me.
	I wouldn't want to be in a barrack.
	You said police barracks?
	So is that like that's what they call the offices of the state police in New York State?
	Oh, okay.
	I thought you meant like MP military police.
	No, not where they sleep.
	Where they're holding cellars for all their arrests.
	By the way, I'd like to point out, I'd like to point out radioactivity in the chat says he forgot to mention that he was puffing on an MV-sponsored e-cig while he was on the air.
	Damn good smokey says this message brought to you by the letter Q and the number 22.
	So just go to ufoship.com and click e-cigs in the menu.
	Is that a free advert?
	Oh, it's paid.
	E-CIGS, when you're being a drag, don't forget to get a drag.
	Eh, all right.
	I'll try next time.
	No, don't.
	We're uh someone's someone someone's saying that Cassio is back on the forum.
	Yeah, a foster cat said he's back on Bellgab.
	Who said that?
	Foster cat said that Folgers.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, Folger's cat said that Cassio's back on Bellgab.
	So I don't know if that's true or not.
	Well, think about it.
	Let's list out the things that are going well for Cassio at this point in his life that would say that there's something to take his mind off of Bellgab.
	He doesn't have to worry about brushing his teeth.
	That's a good thing.
	It's a good thing.
	He doesn't have problems with his wisdom teeth anymore.
	Right.
	And the list ends.
	Yeah.
	He doesn't have a utility bill in this tent.
	Is he still tent bound?
	That was all fake, wasn't it?
	That's really all I know about the guy is that he was in a tent, but it wasn't real.
	I would love to be posting YouTube videos from a tent.
	I'm going to have to work that out.
	I have to arrange it.
	You've really made it.
	Well, you know, I've got a GoPro.
	Maybe I should go set up my tent and start posting videos.
	That's what would make me break through to the next step of YouTube being a fan.
	After that, you could have tens of subscribers, I suspect.
	Probably.
	Tens of them.
	You could easily get into double figures.
	Which would be 10 more than I currently have.
	So I like it.
	Radio A is going to take that liner you just did and use it.
	So if he puts that on his show, can you get paid for that somehow?
	Me?
	Yeah.
	Oh, I don't know.
	It takes me like when somebody says something to me, it's taking me about five seconds for my brain to say, hey, they're talking to you, buddy.
	You've got built-in buffering occurring right now.
	I have a built-in seven-second delay, you know, to protect my virgin ears from anything they shouldn't hear.
	By the way, I unbanned every account on the forum a few days ago, so it wouldn't surprise me that Cassio's back.
	Well, Folchers cat saying that Seraphim 27 was Cassio.
	Does anyone believe that?
	No, I don't.
	I don't believe that.
	No, no, it's not.
	Seraphin's not Calcio.
	Okay.
	Radio A says he'll give you $22 if you'll say that again in a drug-laden voice.
	Let's all be quiet and let me do that.
	Say what again?
	You, yeah.
	Say what?
	Do your live read for e-cigs.
	Okay.
	I forgot to mention I was puffing an MV sponsored e-cig while I was on the air.
	Damn good smoke.
	Damn good smoke.
	This message brought to you by letter Q and 22 number.
	There you go.
	Send that money.
	That went well.
	That went well.
	Yeah, definitely.
	You got a career in this MV.
	You might want to keep it up.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You know, ladies and gentlemen, I'm MV for pills.
	If you'd like to be a radio announcer, begin taking pills.
	Lots of them.
	The bigger the better.
	Don't break them in half.
	Just throw the whole thing straight down your gullet.
	Better yet, don't even touch the pills.
	Just pour the bottle straight into your mouth.
	Head back.
	Shoehorn, if available.
	This message was brought to you by the Radio Ad Council and a partnership for a drug-free America.
	The ad council.
	You know how many things I hear with that stupid message brought to you by the ad council.
	How do you get a job working for the ad council?
	What do you do if you work for the ad council?
	Where's the application process for that?
	It sounds like a really gravy job.
	Yeah, I work for the ad council.
	Had a really rough day today.
	We had some radon PSAs we had to get out there.
	Also had to let people know that they should write to the federal government and get their brochures out of Pueblo, Colorado.
	I can't fucking sleep.
	Dude, I work for an NGO.
	I'm going to go on YouTube, see if I can find some Radio Ad Council now.
	Somebody says, MV, what's your PayPal?
	I'll send a gift just go to bellgab.com and click on donate.
	Just fax them a check.
	I need to buy more pills.
	Just subsidize my pill habits.
	I can't imagine how people get addicted to this shit.
	It's a mislike when I take hydrocodone.
	I don't know if anybody else has this experience, but man, you just itch everywhere.
	I took it once when I had tooth problems, too.
	And when they gave it to me, like, I'm really sensitive to any kind of medication.
	Like, I can take one pill of something not strong and it affects me like I took two.
	So I told them when they gave that to me that I don't want to just give me Tylenol, or I'll just take Tylenol or whatever.
	And they said, well, take this.
	We'll get you in in two days to get the problem fixed.
	But this will take care of the pain.
	I took one of them and like probably five minutes after I took the pill, I went and threw up and then I fell asleep for 24 hours.
	God.
	So I'm like, I'm never touching that stuff again.
	So needless to say, nobody will ever refer to you as the Terrence McKenna of Belgab.
	No, actually, I think if someone were to say, hey, man, you want to go try some of this?
	I would already be tripping and connecting to an alternate dimension before we even took the bus ride.
	Before we even took the bus ride out to the desert, I'd already be done.
	Like, hey, man, you see that color that just drove by?
	It said it loves me.
	Yeah.
	The taste of that color, man.
	It was like purple.
	Curtis, you've lived a very pure existence.
	I just can't really.
	I can get the point across, but it only carries so far.
	Add a voice.
	It's richer, louder, but that has limits too.
	Add a third voice.
	It's even more powerful.
	Add another, and another, and many, many more.
	And we are stronger than ever.
	That's the power of a community coalition.
	They help community groups, faith groups, civic organizations, PTAs, employers, and many others in your community organize their resources and focus them where they're needed most.
	Like fighting to keep kids away from drugs by layering multiple voices on top of one another.
	Visit helpyourcommunity.org and they'll tell you exactly how your group can help.
	That's helpyourcommunity.org.
	Because you get more, brought to you by the Office of National Drug Control Policy and Ted Council.
	Man, what was it?
	So if I contact these people, they're going to be like, listen, there's a bag of trash at the corner of 5th and Maine.
	Nobody will pick it up.
	If you want to help out, go down there and grab it.
	Our cameras are on it now.
	And we'll let you know if we have anything else for you.
	And then you go pick up the trash.
	You call them back.
	You know, that's it.
	Your community's good now.
	There's nothing else you can do to help it.
	OK, it is with great pleasure that I welcome you to today's graduation ceremony.
	Students, when you hear the reason or reasons for your absences throughout the years, please exit the auditorium without your high school diploma.
	Once you've exited, remove your cap and gown and proceed into the unknown.
	Too tired.
	Family trip.
	Check, check.
	Check.
	Helping around the house.
	Check.
	Six day.
	Check.
	Start the holidays early.
	Oh, yeah.
	Check.
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	Brought to you by the U.S. Army and the Ad Council.
	So the U.S. Army sponsored that message.
	I don't see a problem with being a member of the ad council.
	I think you really should consider a career in that.
	Why were they playing Land of Hope and Glory in that?
	Is that the song that's your takeaway?
	That's your takeaway from that commercial.
	Here, here's one more.
	You probably laugh at my pipe.
	When I grow up, I want to be a new pair of blue jeans.
	When I grow up, I want to be a kid's first computer.
	I want to be a glass countertop in a new home.
	When I grow up, I want to be a kid's best birthday present.
	When I grow up, I want to be a football stadium.
	When I grow up, I want to be warm place on a cold day.
	When I grow up, I want to be a fancy bag.
	I want to be a bike that races around the city.
	When I grow up, I want to be a bench on a forest trail.
	I want to be a rocking chair on an admiral.
	I want to be a skyscraper.
	I want to be.
	I want to be a little bit more.
	I want to be a hero.
	This ad was brought to you by the posters of the Art Bell thread on bellgab.com.
	This ad brought to you by LSD.
	Yes.
	I want to be a light bulb, man.
	Here's another one.
	Dear Jean, I just wanted to tell you the things I love so much about you.
	Like your pasty white belly and how it fits in those tight shirts that my friends think you shouldn't be wearing.
	I love how you do that thing where you mash four slices of bread into a massive ball of dough and stuff it in your mouth.
	That's so adorable.
	And what about when you tell those same jokes from reruns that you've seen over and over again?
	They make me laugh every single time.
	Other guys play sports or go running or do something outside, but not you.
	You're different.
	Guys, rest assured, you will never in your life meet a girl like this.
	P.S. I can't wait until we cuddle in front of Pro Wrestling all day this Saturday.
	I hear it's a steel cage Texas death match.
	Get some exercise.
	Get up.
	Get out.
	A public service message brought to you by the ad council and the president's council on physical fitness and sports.
	What is her boyfriend?
	Five years old?
	I remember putting bread in balls like that when I was a little boy, but now I'm 37.
	I don't think I do that anymore.
	That sounded like Phil Hartman, too.
	The guy either wait.
	I've got one more, but we gotta guys go out and get an get some exercise.
	You know, that is a great example of how one-sided everything is.
	What a one-way street it is.
	Can you imagine the outcry if they ran a PA PSA saying, ladies, go out and get some exercise so that you're not a giant fat pig and perhaps your man might want to bed you from time to time?
	Please do that, ladies.
	They're not going to run that PSA.
	Such a one-way street.
	The caller who just joined our call wants to show video, and I'm tempted to say yes to that.
	Is that wrong?
	And caller, you're on the air.
	Showing a video there's a microgram radio.
	White crow, you want to you want to send video to me?
	When am I going to see you?
	No, I don't send any video.
	I don't even know anything about sending video.
	Well, I'm accepting it then, based on that.
	Honestly, when I grow up, I'm not going to smoke the evil ones evil e-cigarettes.
	I'm going to continue smoking cigarettes and get a good case of lung cancer and fulfill my dream of becoming a heroin addict.
	I always wanted to be a heroin addict.
	Addict?
	Oh, please.
	Attic.
	Yes.
	Janine Marks, a 12-year-old, was fairly normal.
	She spent a lot of time online.
	One day, she met a new friend.
	The new friend had the same problems at home.
	They liked the same bands.
	They worried about the same subjects in school.
	They promised to keep each other's secrets.
	They wished they went to the same junior high.
	The new friend had good news.
	He said he was going to be in Janine's area one Saturday.
	Oh, cool.
	Yeah.
	The new friend didn't want parents messing this up.
	Hell no.
	So did her new friend, who wasn't in junior high.
	Uh-oh.
	Wasn't nice.
	Uh-oh.
	And wasn't a 14-year-old boy.
	Oh, no.
	Children are sexually solicited online.
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	A message from the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and the Ad Council.
	Help delete online predators.
	I like the way they because you see, it's about computers.
	So they threw in the word delete.
	That was totally operating.
	It was very apropos.
	This is what I meant to click on.
	Talk to you by Huma Abedin.
	Hi, I'm Mickey Hart of The Grateful Dead.
	We've traveled all over the world, from Amsterdam to the Great Pyramids of Egypt.
	But I can't think of anywhere more full of beauty, life, and our own national forest.
	I love the forest.
	But you know, always beauty can be taken away from us through one careless act.
	A campfire unattended.
	Cigarette butt thrown out a car window.
	White crow, that was supposed to be us playing with your smoking.
	You see, one little fire can quickly become one big fire, a forest fire.
	And before you know it, the trees stop swaying, the flowers stop blooming, and the birds stop singing.
	So please be careful in the forest.
	It belongs to all of us.
	And remember, only you can prevent forest fires.
	Public service, forest service, USDA.
	I'm not sure what to do with it.
	It's got that 1970s radio ad reverb.
	It did.
	That was supposed to be playing.
	White Crow, can you give us your best?
	I'm going to Yellowstone next week.
	You are?
	Yeah, taking a road trip out to Yellowstone.
	Can you give us your best?
	Only you can prevent forest fires.
	Oh, they just let the fires burn now when you go out west.
	You see a lot of fires burning, like an uncontrolled or a controlled burn.
	Yeah, Smokey the Bear.
	I mean, he's responsible for a lot of forest fires, all the underbrush and stuff to clear out.
	You need fires to do that.
	I think you would be a great spokesperson for them, though.
	You got the voice for it.
	That's why I want to hear you do a only you can prevent forest fires.
	I want to hear an Arbud Dwyer impression.
	Go only you can prevent forest fires.
	I could do better than that.
	Only you can prevent forest fires.
	I dropped off at the end.
	Yeah, one more.
	I got the only you down pretty good.
	And three, two, one.
	Only you can prevent forest fires.
	That's rap.
	Good job.
	Okay.
	YP, your turn.
	And three.
	Two.
	One.
	Well, what am I saying?
	MP.
	Come on, MV.
	Step up.
	You can do it.
	What am I saying?
	You're saying only you can prevent forest fires.
	Come on, you don't have Smokey the Bear over in the UK?
	Okay.
	Only you can prevent forest fires.
	That actually makes me want to go start one.
	Do it again, but make it more ominous.
	Only you can prevent forest fires.
	There we go.
	Okay, so Damon, your turn.
	Only you can prevent forest fires.
	All right, gravity.
	Only you can prevent forest fires.
	And MV, bring us home.
	Don't catch the woods on fire, kids.
	This is bad for everybody.
	And that's why you're the professional.
	Come on, anybody.
	Put the matches down.
	Kids, don't smoke the reefer outside.
	Put the maxes down.
	The other night I was at a dinner party.
	Two girls were talking, and she's going to, girls want to get engaged to this guy.
	Is it Star Mountain?
	She says, the one girl asked the other girl, did you tell him that you smoked cigarettes before?
	This is the new, the new norm.
	You have to keep it a secret that she smokes cigarettes in her past.
	Well, you want to make sure there's good ventilation in the bathroom.
	Yeah, that's what we need to know.
	If there's good ventilation in the bathroom, then he'll never know.
	Oh, funny stuff.
	Can you?
	Are you able to see the chat room right now, White Crow?
	No, I'm on my phone, but maybe.
	Okay, well, radioactivity needs you to say this message brought to you by the letter Q and the number 22.
	That's like in Sesame Street, isn't it?
	It is, yes.
	No, I'm not going to do anything.
	MV doesn't play long.
	Evil one never plays her long.
	He's always cut out smartest.
	He's a wise guy.
	He's just not a team player.
	Well, would it be?
	Would you want MB to be a team player?
	No.
	I wouldn't.
	Yeah, he's always, he's always been an individual.
	Yes.
	I'll say the message.
	All right, go ahead.
	No, he doesn't hate you.
	He can't even generate that kind of emotion.
	Yeah, there you go.
	He can't bring himself to express that kind of emotion touching the hate.
	Right.
	All right, go ahead.
	Damon's dramatic reading.
	This message brought to you by the letter Q in the number 22.
	Now, that is a ringtone that radioactivity should cherish and enjoy.
	Okay, boys.
	Are you leaving?
	Well, I think so.
	I don't material.
	Yes.
	A friendship, and I do enjoy your sweater that you sweat thing that you sent me a while back.
	Damon, what's wrong with you?
	I'm tired.
	Yeah, I've been trying.
	No, I just mean in a general sense.
	What's wrong with you?
	I live in California.
	What do you expect?
	Do you have a license for a smoking medical marijuana?
	I don't have a medical marijuana card.
	Why not?
	Do you want one?
	No, probably after I get a different job, so I have to worry about it because I maintain a clearance.
	So wait a minute.
	You mean to tell me that if you legally consume marijuana in California or whatever other state where it's legal to do so, you can lose your job as a result of that?
	Yeah.
	I thought the regular potential is just so messed up.
	I have to take a regular piss test and make sure I don't do drugs.
	What's the same thing like drinking MV?
	Well, it's not the same thing as drinking because if I drink alcohol, it's out of my system 12 hours later.
	But if I smoke pot, it's not going to be out of my system for 30 days.
	But that doesn't mean I'm high.
	It would for me if I were to smoke it.
	Like six months later, I'd still be tripping.
	You're going to have a hangover tomorrow just because we talked about it.
	Is he going to want employees that are potheads?
	Why?
	Who says I don't want employees that are potheads?
	So, yeah, here's my experience with that.
	I worked with someone who was wound a little too tight.
	Like the slightest thing would upset them.
	And I found on the days they came in where they had smoked something were some of the best days at the job I had.
	And so I actually was upset on days they didn't smoke something.
	I have a friend who was a lifetime pothead.
	I mean, you know, pot smoker daily.
	And he could be drug testing and said you only started in 30 days.
	So he quit entirely.
	First time in his life since he was a teenager.
	He was pot every day.
	So his job was more important.
	Why?
	I don't know.
	He did his job all right.
	So I understand your point in Detour.
	There are plenty of functional pot smokers out there, doctors, lawyers, people from all walks of life.
	You know, and they get up every day and they do their jobs.
	They take care of their kids.
	They're not a drain on society.
	I just don't see how it's relevant that because I smoked pot 12 days ago at a party, I can't work at XYZ establishment any longer.
	So White Crow, if MV came in half-baked to get a mortgage for a new house, would you decline him just because he came in a little spaced out?
	Well, he's normally a little spaced out, so no.
	Okay, so more than normal.
	I don't think I would give a mortgage to somebody if I had the option.
	If someone came in to get a mortgage and they're all high, I don't think I'd give them a mortgage.
	You wouldn't?
	What if they're correct?
	I think so.
	Excellent.
	Good job.
	Like, there's nothing else on paper that would make you say no.
	Yeah, you would.
	I don't know.
	I would just be annoyed.
	I would just be annoyed that someone's sitting in front of me in that state for something that important.
	Yeah.
	I would find it an inappropriate environment to be high.
	I'm sorry.
	So from that perspective, it would just annoy me.
	And I would say no.
	So that's another tip brought to you by the Gabcast on things not to do before getting a mortgage with White Crow.
	Don't say high first.
	Yes.
	Don't smoke the reefer before you go meet with White Crow for a mortgage.
	Okay, can I ask a serious question?
	You guys are all younger than I am.
	I'm 73 years old, but go ahead.
	Well, you, wow, you've had a great voice.
	Well, you know, I smoke a lot of weed.
	We didn't, you know, learn about marijuana until we were in our very, very late teens, senior year of high school.
	Next generation, young kids, bright young kids, you know, they started smoking that stuff when we were 12 and it just seemed like they got stupid and stayed stupid for the rest of their life.
	Is that just I can't put any numbers behind it, but there's a handful of kids that, you know, are being older than them.
	I thought would be doing a lot with their life, but they started smoking pot when they're 12 and they just got dumb.
	Any you guys notice that at all?
	So here's what I would say to that.
	My response is that it's not weed that's causing that.
	It's the success of the past that causes it.
	Each generation has less to do.
	It's television.
	That too, yes.
	Now it's the internet.
	Yeah, because when I was in school, I mean, I noticed that the generations undermine were progressively more idiotic than we were.
	And it took me a little bit to connect the fact that the people who are ahead of me in classes thought that my class was an idiot too, and then progressively worse as it went on.
	And so I think it's just society each year, the next group of people, next group of kids born are that much more privileged and not doing the things that the generation or the kids before did.
	So it creates this perception that they're getting dumber and less involved each year, each generation, even.
	Yeah, we have this tendency to think that there is some scientific research that suggests that kids that smoke pop from early teens and continue into adulthood, you know, 20s and 30s.
	They don't actually mature because it prevents the frontal lobes of the brain joining up.
	That makes sense to me.
	I don't think anybody should be using mind-altering substances when their brain is developing.
	Yeah, but when we were teenagers and we used to do stuff and then we look back and we think, shit, did we really do that?
	You know, that was really crazy stuff.
	It's because Your brain doesn't fully form until you're about 24-25 years old.
	And then you look back and you say, God, did I really do that?
	And that's because the bit in the brain that says this really isn't a good idea, don't do it, forms when you're 24 or 25.
	But if you smoke pot from early teens right through, that doesn't happen.
	So you're sort of basically in a perpetual teenage state of mind.
	Well, to say it more accurately, if you smoke pot or consume any mind-altering substance, I would imagine it would affect that developmental process.
	And so just like any other mind-altering substance, it needs to be controlled.
	I mean, who wants 12-year-olds running around burning blunts in a convertible?
	Well, I would say that smartphones and TV are mind-altering substances, too.
	Yes, I think so.
	But something you said there, YP, struck me.
	You said your brain isn't fully mature basically until you're 24.
	Yeah, that kind of age.
	Okay, well, I got married when I was 21, so that tells me a lot about myself.
	I just cannot relate to that.
	I just thinking where I was in my life at 21, the things I was doing.
	The idea of having been married.
	Wow.
	I was in college and married.
	You just matured early, Curtis.
	That's what I liked to think until I turned 24, and then I woke up one morning and said, Oh my God, where am I?
	What happened?
	How come I was born without a soul?
	You were just fortunate you met a woman that you loved early.
	Oh, we're getting old Gilly now.
	Yeah, I'm going to record this and play it back for my wife when she says, Are you doing that podcast stuff again?
	Like, we got to hear what White Crow says.
	He nailed it.
	It's all be you, sweetheart.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	I work literally work with hundreds of women.
	Oh, I should say this.
	No, say it.
	Keep going.
	Are you saying you're a fluffer?
	You think once in a while, well, if you were, you know, whatever you signal, your wife passed away or whatever, whatever situation.
	I don't think I would want to marry one of them.
	Special love is.
	If you were a widower, you would find the right person.
	Yeah.
	There's not, you know, that's how special love is when you find somebody.
	It's pretty rare.
	You're right, man.
	That's true.
	Yeah, I agree.
	That's solid.
	You know, like guys like YP there, he's, you know, he's, I don't know what your situation is, but love all.
	Well, he's a he's had a 20-year career as a fluffer.
	He's not going to give that up just all of a sudden.
	I mean, he worked hard to rise up those ranks.
	My knees can tell you a story or two.
	I'll tell you that.
	That's what I've heard.
	What color was it, Lego?
	You know what?
	I was preoccupied.
	I didn't look down.
	I thought that was something they taught you in a Fluffer 101: never look down.
	Don't look up either unless you want something in your eye.
	Don't look down.
	Whatever you do, don't look down.
	Look up.
	Look up.
	And make sure you wear the right eyeshadow.
	Make eye contact.
	But then don't.
	I guess it depends on the set you're on, whether you want to make eye contact.
	No joke.
	Yeah, that's what she said.
	Competing against George Life tonight.
	Have you been double dipping and listening and watching his?
	No, I haven't.
	I haven't.
	But we appreciate that.
	We went to.
	While you're getting all that tech stuff and we, so, so, uh, White Crow, what kind of Gabcast do you think is the best in a gabcast?
	If Tech Talk makes you zone out, what is it you would like to hear from future hosts?
	It's been a while since I've hosted a Gabcast, and I didn't know if I ever would come back to it.
	But once you get back into the seat, it's like, okay, I need to do this every week.
	But what would you like to see from the next round of Gabcast?
	Well, that'd be tough.
	Can I be critical of the evil one?
	Oh, please do.
	When would you not?
	I promise you that you might be back.
	I was just asking permission, Michael.
	Being polite.
	Don't ever ask for permission.
	Ask for forgiveness.
	Michael, through effort and luck, you only stumbled on something pretty special with Art Bell and everything.
	And I guess I would have liked this site, you know, this is just me.
	It's telling MV what to do.
	It's to answer your question, if the site could have maintained some of the specialness of promoting people who do radio shows and paranormal stuff.
	Bell Gab's a lost cause.
	Let it go.
	Just post there.
	The gabcast, the next episode of the gabcast.
	What would make it better?
	Well, that's what I'm trying to answer.
	It's a policy.
	You know, I don't know.
	I don't have an answer for you.
	It's whatever.
	I think the site could have been used to promote other podcasters, but Envy has this thing.
	I understand.
	Well, wait a minute.
	What action is it I should have taken that would be more appreciated by you that I didn't?
	Oh, I would say like to let the site run and trash Heather and you know, just okay, so I should have edited all that stuff out.
	Got it.
	No, I'm not telling you what to do, Envy.
	Not at all.
	I'm just saying.
	No, I'm saying what you just said is that I should have.
	Forget about, I'm not hung up on, hey, someone's telling me what to do.
	I'm talking about the specifics of the point that you're making.
	I should have, according to you, gone through and cleaned that stuff up, which would be a hell of a lot of work.
	I understand.
	No, it's got nothing to do with how much work it is.
	It's just, it's got nothing to do with how much work it would have been.
	It's about, in the long run, which would have been the best way forward, a site where if you say something nasty about Heather or Art, it's going to be cleaned up within two or three hours.
	Which, in effect, you would have the new Fantastic Forum, by the way.
	I mean, Bell Gab was there long before Art got there.
	It was there after Art quit Dark Matter on SiriusXM.
	It was there when he came and did Midnight in the Desert.
	It's still there after he's quit that.
	Why do you think that is?
	I mean, that's the reason why you're not going to be able to pin me down.
	I do not know what's right or wrong.
	All that I am seeing in V is The site, if it somehow could have promoted paranormal podcast radio personalities, it would have been more interesting for me.
	The mechanics of doing it, I don't know.
	I'll tell you what, White Crow.
	On that note, I've got a business proposal for you.
	If you'll give me $2,000, I'll go re-register the domain name paranormal.chat and I'll create that for him.
	No, you should go register bellgabe.com for white crow.
	Let him be an admin over there.
	He'll get it right.
	How would I successful?
	I actually was going to register.
	I can't gauge whether any of this would be successful.
	I don't know.
	Well, the problem you've got, the problem I think, this is just purely my opinion.
	It's got nothing to do with any research.
	But my opinion of this is anything to do with paranormal of any kind now is just done to death.
	And everybody knows that most people who talk about it, and I'm using the word advisedly, official capacity, is just full of shit.
	And, you know, nobody really believe.
	If you treat it just as entertainment value, you know, about ghost stories and stuff like that, fair enough.
	Just treat it as entertainment, but for goodness sake, don't treat it as empirical fact.
	You know, that's and that's the problem you've got.
	Well, we all understood that Art was a skeptic, but he did so good at playing along.
	But we all listen for his little way of letting us know this person is full of BS through a song that he played or some, you know, a couple of words dropped in.
	We know.
	That was the fun of listening to Art.
	He was a true, he was a skeptic promoting this stuff.
	How he could do it, I have not a clue.
	To fast forward that to the current situation, with but you have Heather, and I understand what MV, I understand what I was saying of being of interest.
	Take Heather, for example.
	I mean, she believes this stuff, and it's just like, I don't think she does.
	Yeah, but she knows.
	I don't think she does.
	I don't think anybody does.
	Well, that's what I was going to say.
	So now you have Art, who was pretty good at it at a time when it was hard to find either corroborating or denying information because the internet isn't what it was like.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, so now you've got Heather trying to.
	I listened to her show last night and I actually tried to call in, but I didn't get through.
	But the show is trying to be paint by numbers, the old show that Art did, but I don't know that she fully believes in it.
	And it's just not as interesting as it was back then.
	So it's hard.
	I'm a big fan of Heather as a person.
	Yeah, I would never suggest that I would tell MV what to do.
	I have not a clue.
	Get over the whole tell MV what to do thing.
	That's not what anybody's talking about here.
	I mean, it's just about the specifics of if you don't like the forum and what it's become, what is it from a specific, almost mechanical standpoint I could do to affect that.
	I mean, it's kind of an organic thing.
	The forum is what people are going to make it.
	I don't know what to do about that.
	I don't know either.
	I'm agreeing with you, Michael.
	I don't know.
	The form evolves.
	I understand that.
	And they'll probably die someday, of course.
	As does everything.
	I mean, it probably will someday.
	I'm totally accepting that fact.
	You'll take a long half that day, right?
	It'll be a long, deep sigh, and then I'll go watch MASH.
	Sweet.
	You know, like the 100-year thread.
	I'm not having an interest in history my whole life.
	I read that thread.
	Could I get that stuff in other places?
	Sure, but it's nice to what Rex does there.
	And I don't know how many views he gets on it, but it has an interest to me.
	So I like the different, you know, the different sub-threads that develop.
	And it still holds interest to me.
	And of course, knowing the people, a lot of the people that we've posted with for years.
	I can remember looking at your site before art came back when it was George Norrie Sucks.
	And I'm like, who would want to look at a site about George Nori Sucks?
	Everybody knows he sucks.
	You can't listen to the man.
	So that thread, that whole thread that you put together that led to Belgab, I don't know the history back then, but that had absolutely no interest for me because I listened to art.
	And when George came along, it was so dumbed down, he was unlistenable.
	The guys, I kind of want to look at it.
	And there's an irony because there's an entire thread devoted to listening to George Nouri and Slaggin.
	The only thing I ever did with the forum that was of any brilliance was to kind of stay out of the way as much as I could at least and let people do what they do.
	And I don't know what to do beyond that, really.
	Well, and that's the thing.
	It's the lack of trying to control it is the only reason it's alive still.
	And you alluded to that earlier with the fantastic forum.
	So the death of Belgab, if you were to stay the course of what you're doing to this point, will have nothing to do with you putting it down because of a heavy hand.
	It'll happen when the people stop amusing themselves together as a group.
	And you would have thought that would have happened after art left or after the initial attack on Heather that happened from people, but it continues to this day pretty healthily.
	I mean, I've noticed recently that it's regular to have 400 people on the page or the site, sorry, every day.
	So it's not slowing down, even if 200 of those accounts happen to be the one.
	Well, when you say 400 people every day, it's actually much higher than that.
	When you see that number on the main page, that number is the highest number of individual users within a measured one-hour period.
	Oh, okay.
	So, so yeah, that's just think about this for everyone who goes to the site, but has thought that they could do it better.
	You know how hard it is to get that many people to actively come to one page on the internet anytime.
	I mean, there's so many sites out there who would love to have a fraction of that so that they could sell a product or do something.
	And here is, here's Bell Gab just kind of sitting there.
	If you come to the site, use it, and happen to click on some links, then yeah, it'll generate some income, but it's not being forced on you in any way.
	Instead, it's sitting there saying, make this thing whatever you want it to be.
	I know for me, if I were handed the goose that lays the golden egg of Bell Gab in terms of this thing that self-sustains, I'd mess it up because I would think, okay, what can I do to make it better?
	And of course, anything I do to make it better is going to make it worse.
	Yeah, it's definitely changed.
	I mean, we all know that.
	And we all know that there's certain posters that don't feel comfortable because of the racism and anti this and anti-that.
	And they don't post there anymore.
	And some of those people I enjoyed.
	But big deal.
	This is MV.
	He can do whatever he wants.
	That just said, I'm not doing anything.
	I would mess it up because I would have some kind of agenda I would promote.
	And that would only last over time.
	It'd have to be if art or a specific forum for a specific need, those are the ones that stick around, you know.
	But for paranormal, we just talked about that.
	It changes over time.
	It's old.
	It's been rehashed.
	We've heard it all before.
	Nothing new.
	So the site developed.
	In beef or whatever, I don't have any reason to compliment him, but he has a certain genius.
	I see that.
	I think I George Norris said that about you, MV.
	The man's a genius.
	He said he doesn't have any reason to compliment me.
	Curtis, I didn't compliment you.
	You didn't compliment me?
	Look at the page views on Bellgab.
	April 2017, 2.5 million.
	If we go back to November 2015, the last full month of art being on the air, 2.5 million page views.
	I don't know.
	You know, people are talking about how things are dying.
	Well, based on that metric, things look pretty good still.
	I don't really see a problem.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I mean, they're only all family in Miraco, though, right?
	And they're all using ad blockers.
	I mean, think how easy it would have been when Art got really interested in the forum to cater to every whim that art would come up with.
	And I don't even know if any whims occurred, but Art talked about the forum on the air regularly.
	He talked about posters he didn't like.
	He talked about things he thought were funny.
	He gave members of the forum their own special name, and the code on the forum never changed.
	It struck me, White Crow, as you were saying, that Bellgab's changed.
	And I don't disagree, but at the same time, in my brain, I thought the code hasn't changed.
	So Bellgab, technically, Belgab hasn't changed.
	Bellgab, the same PHP scripts for SMF forums are the same scripts that were there five years ago.
	Maybe they get upgraded a little bit for features, but Belgab is still Belgab.
	It's not changed.
	It's the poster.
	There was self-moderation for if anybody would have trashed art when he came back for the first time, say, it would have been self-moderation.
	People would have gotten on that person.
	MV didn't have to do anything.
	I get that.
	Well, the funny thing is when Norrie first showed up officially, I went and put a post in that self-moderation thing.
	I'm sorry to interrupt.
	That's just not true.
	That's just never been true.
	This whole, at one time, everything was so civil.
	No, it wasn't.
	I've been here for nine years watching this thing.
	All the posts that have ever been posted are still there for everybody to go read.
	That is just not true.
	Yeah.
	So you're saying that when Art was coming back, if I would have came on there and trolled Art really hard or somebody trolled him really hard, got after him, what he's doing today, he's talking about his breath.
	Other forum members made that ostracize that person would be.
	Come on, come on.
	I don't understand your question because it's putting me to sleep.
	You're asking in the past you're asking in the past if somebody got on there and said something bad about Art Bell.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Here's a question for everybody.
	Because it was a fan song.
	All I'm saying is you're wrong.
	The posts are there.
	You can go back and read.
	Go read the Art Bell thread starting before Art came back.
	After Art came back.
	They're all there.
	You can see them for yourselves.
	I have no reason to argue with you about it because I just know you're wrong.
	This idea that everything was so civil and flowers and, you know, just beautiful harp music in the background until a certain point.
	Rubbish.
	Okay, you're the man.
	It's got nothing to do with me.
	I'm telling you, that's the truth.
	Damon, what were you going to say?
	If Art Bell was lactating, would Falki go to Prom Nevada pretty quickly to interview him?
	Please, Damon, self-censor.
	Okay, sorry about that.
	I don't know if it was funnier.
	The whole thing about artist hits.
	I am such a good troll.
	If I say black, MD will say white.
	No, if you say black, I don't really notice it because I've never really had with you what I would consider to be a genuine interaction.
	So I don't really pay much attention to anything you say.
	So there you go.
	There you go, MD.
	Okay, well, good night, guys, and you're doing.
	Thank you very much.
	Hang up, Curtis.
	Hang up, Curtis.
	Hang on.
	Good night, White Crow.
	Love all.
	Bye.
	That's the problem with VNC.
	My mouse just wasn't registering quick enough to do that.
	That was kind of interesting, though, to sit back and let you two work out what is the truth of Bell Gab's past.
	Bateman did better.
	Surprised me, I wouldn't disagree with that.
	It was interesting.
	There was never a moment where there was true blood in the water, though, during it.
	There was fear of somebody.
	Well, that wasn't my intention.
	No, no, no, not you two.
	I mean Heather and Bateman.
	She didn't do her.
	Well, I don't think either one of them did themselves any favor that night.
	Right, I agree.
	Going back, they could find areas to either punch harder on or to not punch at all.
	And they would have been.
	One thing I noticed on Amazon Prime the other day was Amazon released all of the Star Trek movies now on Prime.
	So if you have Amazon Prime, you can stream all of the Star Trek movies.
	Nice.
	What's your favorite Star Trek movie?
	Favorite one?
	It might be one of the new ones.
	I didn't really like the one with the whales.
	By the way, Folger's cat in the chat room says Art didn't have suckable tits back in the day, and that's why it was never mentioned in the past, but he has them now.
	That's Folger's cat in the chat.
	So things have changed.
	I mean, things have changed.
	Yeah, since the stalker.
	Well, what was the moment that that whole thing started with art and his breasts?
	He posted a picture of himself sitting on the couch holding up a Heineken, which I always thought that the Arts Tits thing was kind of dirty pool because in all likelihood, it's probably due to his COPD.
	There's a condition people with COPD have that causes their chest to protrude.
	And I think that's what he has.
	So I always thought that was kind of dirty pool for people to be attacking that, but whatever.
	What are you going to do?
	Again, what are you going to do?
	MV, will you please censor the forum?
	There will be no mention of the word tits in the same post with the word art on this forum.
	Will you replace that?
	He gets it every time someone posts the word tits.
	Say he gets it.
	Tits can be art.
	Okay, tits can be art, but arts tits are not art.
	Hey, Gravity Sucks.
	Could you step another 20 feet further away from your microphone?
	Okay.
	No one has gotten more shit from Mike Technique than he has tonight.
	I found a shooting on Skype.
	I'll just go ahead and press that.
	Thank you very much.
	Yeah, we need to have a Python script running that just, if it sees the word tits and the word art in the same post, it just deletes that post and sends that user a nasty email to admonish them.
	I think you should have a pop-up that says, do you really want to do this?
	And if they click yes, it deletes it.
	If they click no, it deletes it.
	Von Zeppelin asks if it's possible to use a word filter on the forum to change the word tit or tits.
	He uses apostrophe, the possessive.
	The tits own something.
	Well, yeah.
	They own MindShare right now.
	It's the richest breast in the world.
	That left breast owns a wonderful villa in Maui.
	That's the richest tit anybody's ever seen.
	Anyway, yes, it is possible to replace automatically the word tit.
	And if you want to see an example of that, go to George Senda's forum and you can experience that for yourself.
	Type in any there.
	Oh, by the way, I have three occasions.
	You have to run before you've actually finished the word.
	Yeah.
	You realize, though, no man on Bell Gab has their breast been on the mind of more posters than arts.
	That's why I always take photos from the neck up.
	I just don't need my moves being the focal point of conversation.
	Thank you.
	I usually wear a professional, as a professional, as a professional slipper, I can't extend my eyesight much further than tits.
	Yes.
	It's a professional courtesy.
	You should have the tits of bell gab calendar that people can buy, and it's all men.
	Bolger's cat says art tits have a grip on the forum.
	That's the possessive.
	I now understand.
	Which female bell gabber has great tits?
	Well, there's a question.
	There are female bell gabbers.
	I always figured Evelyn probably had really large breasts.
	I don't know how they're doing now, but.
	How is she doing, by the way?
	I haven't talked to her in a while.
	Because you guys need to do a train wreck.
	Yeah, it's just, you know, I'm actually the whole let's sit here and argue politics for two hours.
	That feels like work to me.
	Yeah, you know, it's funny.
	Oh, I see.
	It's not a question.
	It's a statement.
	You know, which female bell gabber has great ticks.
	I don't want to say she doesn't post often.
	Huh.
	Does she intriguing?
	Has she ever hosted a podcast?
	He's definitely referring to Ev.
	I'll get her on the horn here and see what she has to say about this.
	That would be good.
	I mean, she's listening, right?
	So maybe she can just call in and let us know.
	You know, this gap cast's been on for over three hours now.
	Well, I prefer to only do podcasts for three hours or more.
	It's really a long-form art.
	You do all the show prep.
	You do all the show prep, and if you don't get time to go through it all, then it's just wasted effort.
	Right.
	I spent 12 hours prepping for this episode.
	Right.
	My cue cards are all numbered and everything.
	Which brings me to my next question.
	This is only the rehearsal.
	Who killed Kennedy?
	No.
	No, my next question was: what type of meal do you eat before you fluff somebody, YP?
	Something light but tasty.
	Okay, nice.
	Is you getting a dressing on that?
	A nice pasta dish, maybe.
	Tuna.
	Tuna's good.
	That way it gives the receiver as close to the real experience as possible.
	You're thinking ahead of me.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	You're thinking ahead of me.
	You're the fastest man on podcast.
	My grandmother always told me this was my talent.
	You know.
	Well, Envy, the only thing you can make your form better, Bill Gap better, is how more cowbells.
	Or more Mayo, as Star says.
	Oh, Mayo just ruined everything.
	You asked Cathy.
	From a certain point of view.
	Because of a particular person, I can't really enjoy Mayo anymore.
	Ashley taking a whole new thought.
	Like, I walk through the storm.
	I see a case of and I'm like, no, thank you.
	Not that I wanted it to begin with, but like, yeah, I actually puke a little bit.
	Sorry.
	I'm ready to tone when the phone rings.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Star says she's kidding.
	Well, I don't know.
	She's a professional fluffer.
	So.
	I'm just kidding.
	What is she kidding about?
	She's kidding.
	I'm surprised the pizza troll hasn't deliver us any pizzas.
	The pizza troll delivered me.
	The dressing is good.
	During the podcast tonight, the pizza troll delivered me a macafe from McDonald's.
	It was a mocha.
	It was good.
	It was a medium.
	I would say that I would enjoy another one if the pizza troll would like to send it to me.
	Well, if the pizza troll sends me a pizza, I do like jalapeno peppers and olives.
	Terrible.
	Man, that sounds like an awful pizza.
	That's a horrible pizza.
	You know what?
	I'm closing your Bell Gab account.
	Oh, sir.
	You're sorry.
	Well, that's just a joke because Falki doesn't like olives or jalapeno peppers.
	So that's a running joke now.
	You know, there really is nothing better than a nice veggie pizza, though.
	Right.
	I don't really like meat on a pizza.
	It's just too much.
	You've already got 10 pounds of cheese staring you in the face.
	Oh, you need more dead animal protein on top of it?
	Damon, let's end the show on this Okay.
	If you got a chance to meet Falky face to face and he didn't know that it was that you were who you were, would you try to be his friend or not?
	And also, I'd like to follow up by saying, are you actually Abram?
	I am not Abram, first of all.
	Oh, sorry.
	But I'm not eating anything right now.
	Second of all, if I did meet Falki in person, I would try to be his friend and I'll buy him something from Starbucks.
	You know, for you to be sounding as you're sounding right now and then to say you're not actually eating, that's worse than if you just said what you're eating.
	I'm sorry.
	I mean, I'm in some Diet Coke right now.
	You're eating it?
	It's the new thick version of Diet Coke.
	It's like chewing on bread, this Coke.
	It's better for digestion.
	yeah that would be nice to uh falke but um but it's a sponge but it's uh well the question is would you if you met falke in person what would you do I'd give him a hug.
	I wouldn't want to have any physical contact with him because God knows what he would accuse me of.
	Well, not only that, but what we might catch.
	I've never, I mean, that's a valid point.
	I mean, I don't really get the impression he might necessarily be the most sanitary person ever.
	So there would be concerns there.
	We're thinking away.
	But before I do ever have a stove, before I ever have any encounters with Falke, I'll make sure all my shots are up to date and current.
	You would want to.
	You would not be allowed to leave a country if you were to make sure you're vaccinated against HEP A through Z. Right.
	Yeah.
	You know what?
	The thing is, Sender's Hole is probably the only place that you would rather take your own sandwiches and dip them in his frigging toilet and eat them rather than eat something out of his kitchen.
	Oh my gosh.
	What I hate the most about what you just said is that you're right.
	From a microbial standpoint, that very well could be correct.
	Yeah.
	I'm surprised the health department and Martinez, a California Con Costa County, hasn't banned his apartment complex yet because of Falke.
	They're obviously a very busy department.
	Right.
	So, because there's videos that Falkey put up on YouTube that it's inside of his apartment, it's like, I'm surprised, like, surprised the health department hasn't come in there and banned him to close it down for health and safety reasons.
	Well, as we end tonight's show, I'm going to say in friendship that hopefully this is the last Gabcast that Mr. Cinda is not actually a host of that discusses anything related to him, and we can have the Gabcast go in friendship from this point forward.
	Can I get a second from anybody on the I just find him, I just find him so uninteresting.
	I don't really, I mean, I'm glad people view his thread on Bellgab.
	Yay, me.
	But I just find him to be specific about him, you know, I find him so uninteresting.
	I don't really see why people are so into it.
	I mean, I'm glad they are.
	Okay, great.
	AdSense revenue.
	Hooray.
	But I don't get it.
	Well, after watching that show, the one about Chris Chan or Christian Chandler, and I think there's no way I would watch his stuff beginning to end.
	So I think, well, wait a minute.
	I've watched more Falky videos than I probably should have.
	I'll make one promise from any future gal cast that I'm a part of.
	I will not talk about Falkey-free zone.
	And it's not because you're being negative, just that there's new horizons to explore.
	Yeah, I'm going to close the Falkey chapter.
	And there's all other stuff out there on this planet in the universe to talk about.
	We could talk about technology, Star Trek, food, travel.
	There's a whole bunch of stuff to talk about.
	Yeah, if we hadn't been talking for three years TV VCR repair.
	I'm not really a big fan of VCR.
	I prefer VCPs.
	What's a VCP?
	What's a video cassette player?
	No.
	I find the recorder part of it just too daunting of a technology.
	Of course, last but not least, there's horse porn to talk about.
	To close out, I'd like to let everybody hear my one-year-old scream.
	Good time.
	Go change the diaper.
	That works great on a head that's already in pain.
	That sound.
	Oh, yes, it boys.
	Well, on that note, I think you should just let her continue to cry as we end the show.
	I don't hear the music.
	Don't tend to her.
	Just let her cry, Curtis says.
	Okay, great.
	This is a man with three kids.
	Exactly.
	I know how to parent, dude.
	Video professor, I tell you.
	24-7.
	Live long and prosper, everybody.
	Bye, everybody.
	Bye, Yorkshire, Damon, Curtis.
	Good night.
	Next time, dude, we'll make sure the phone is dark.

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