GabCast Bellgab.com - 01 July, 2017

July 1, 2017 - GabCast Bellgab.com

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01 July, 2017

01 July, 2017 ---------- The GabCast is a podcast about/for BellGab.com which is a message board full of degenerates who post there for the explicit purpose of trying to "forget the pain". On this episode, hosted by MV and damon, we had excellent calls from ponyboysunset, Radio Activity, and Bomar.

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	This is the Gabcast, a podcast about BellGab.com.
	Call us now.
	573-837-4948.
	That number again, 573-837-4948.
	And now, here's the Gapcast.
	It is the Gapcast.
	This is a podcast about BellGab.com.
	And I go by the name MV over at Bellgab.
	And with us tonight, also hosting the show, we have Damon.
	What's up, buddy?
	Not much.
	And hopefully we'll get plenty of calls because I almost canceled the show, actually, because we didn't have any other takers to co-host the show with us.
	I've never seen such little interest, but I guess, you know, that's kind of, uh, it's been so long since this has been done, since there's been a Gabcast, you know, and so you sort of get out of the rhythm of doing that, and.
	And it just takes a while to build that up if you do build it up.
	So I think if we were doing these shows regularly, it would have been more likely that we'd have an easy time of getting people in here to do the show with us.
	But that's okay.
	I'm sure we'll get plenty of callers.
	I'm sure, as always, we'll just be bombarded with callers.
	It never fails.
	We can't even speak on this show.
	have so many callers anyway if you want to and oh well that's fine too You know, it's all content.
	It's all clay for us to mold and work with.
	So if you want to be on the show, there's a phone number to call.
	That's really, you know, I see a lot of podcasts moving beyond the idea of taking phone calls.
	And like particularly when Art Bell was doing his show, this whole focus on getting people to call in using their Skype.
	And then they call in and they sound like basically they are on par with the host.
	You know, they sound like they have the same, basically the same audio fidelity that the host does.
	By and large, I mean, there are technical differences.
	But just on the whole, they sound better than it just seems they should.
	You know, after an entire lifetime of listening to callers call into talk shows and do so over a phone line and to suddenly hear them calling in on Skype, I just always found it jarring.
	So this is a Van Deeven Enterprises guarantee for you listeners out there.
	We will never stop using a phone number.
	In fact, we will devolve into requiring the use of rotary telephones.
	So that's our promise to you.
	We will never become a Skype caller focused internet radio show.
	Doesn't that just make your month better, Damon?
	I think it should.
	So the phone number, if you want to be on, is 573-837-4948.
	It's 573-837-4948.
	And, you know, as I told you before the show, Damon, since it's just you and me, buddy, I said, you better have your talking points ready.
	And you said, I've got talking points.
	And I thought, well, I'm just going to sit back and see what he's going to throw at me.
	I don't know.
	I've got my coffee.
	I'm sipping.
	Like many people out there in Bell Gablin, what type of stuff do you like?
	What type of pizza do you like?
	There is a pizza troll out there.
	And the pizza troll is sending pizza primarily to Falke, right?
	That is correct.
	Are they using a variety of pizza places or are they just calling the same pizza place every I would think you'd have to skip around to different pizza places?
	So far, it's Domino's and Mountain Mike's.
	I've never heard of that second one, but Domino's seems like the obvious first choice if you're going to be a pizza troll because you don't want to actually send them good pizza.
	You want to send them gutter garbage if possible.
	Yeah, Mountain Mike's a pizza joint up in Northern California.
	By the way, they do have good pizza.
	Chances are, if you've not heard their name before, they're much better than Domino's.
	That is correct.
	But so far, I'm aware of the pizza troll that sent some pizzas to him.
	Two apparently cash delivery.
	So I guess they're demanding cash payments.
	The other one, somebody else paid for, but Falke didn't like it because it had the jalapeno peppers and olives.
	Apparently, he doesn't like neither one.
	But he called Domino's to try to get a free pizza with sausage on it.
	So the Domino's denied him on that.
	So he was kind of butthurt about that.
	So you're saying that actually he is paying for some of these pizzas?
	Yeah, allegedly, but apparently somebody ordered him a pizza from, I think, Domino's, and somebody already prepaid that.
	But he didn't like it.
	After he found out it has jalapeno peppers and olives, and he doesn't like it.
	He called up Domino's and say, hey, can you send me replacement pizza?
	And the Domino's denied that, basically, because that was already a prepaid pizza already, because somebody ordered it for him.
	Rumor is on the streets is that a rally squirrel ordered at least one or multiple pizzas.
	On the streets.
	That's what they're saying on the streets.
	Yeah, on the streets.
	But apparently, according to Mark, Falke made a complaint to the local police department and made a police report about the pizzas.
	Because I look at the police report right here, it says on 918, on Ferry Street, says, Martinez, somebody keeps having pizzas delivered to the RP's house.
	This is the third week in a row.
	Third pizza, unknown suspect information.
	RP wants to advise how to make this stop.
	Apparently, the cops have given some advice to Falke.
	Apparently, this made the police log reports, the reports, but earlier in that week, Falkey says his iPad was stolen, but that didn't make it to the police.
	Now, I saw some information about that iPad theft bandied about on Bellgab.
	And my impression of what I didn't read any of it in depth, but my impression was, just as a matter of a cursory scan, I gleaned from it that the iPad was stolen from immediately adjacent to his head in his own apartment as he was sleeping.
	That is correct.
	Okay.
	Well, he really knows how to throw a lie together, doesn't he?
	That's like, if you're going to lie, be good at it at least.
	Good grief.
	So someone breaks into your apartment.
	I mean, first of all, if you're going to break into apartments, I love how you'll see people who live in really nice neighborhoods, and so they feel the need to be armed and have security systems and stuff like that.
	People will say to them, why do you feel like you need all that?
	You live in a great neighborhood.
	And the answer is invariably, it's because I live in a good neighborhood I need this jizzbag.
	What do you think?
	If people are going to go rob houses, they're going to go into the ghetto.
	They're going to go into the neighborhoods where there are bars on the windows to go, what, steal a TV with rabbit ears?
	No.
	They're coming to my house.
	That's why I need all this stuff.
	And so it makes no sense that A, someone's going to choose Falke's government-funded apartment complex in order to perpetrate this theft.
	B, do it without waking this tub of shit up.
	C, know exactly where the iPad rests.
	D, lift it, take nothing else, walk out, close the door, and go on about their day.
	And by the way, an Apple product, an iPad, any Apple mobile device, they really are not good devices to steal because if you don't have the Apple ID login info, they're pretty much rendered useless to you.
	Correct.
	What's the problem?
	Right.
	Apparently, he left his door unlocked so you can easily just walk in.
	And apparently the alleged person who stole it left some Newport cigarette butts next to Falkey.
	Okay, so that's okay.
	So we will pad the lie by suggesting that the person left behind a cigarette brand that blacks are predisposed towards smoking more so than whites.
	So that, I guess, is supposed to add a little bit of credibility to the lie.
	I think what happened was a while back, somebody donated, what was it, like $1,200 or $1,800 to him?
	Some just gratuitous amount of money.
	I can't remember how much it was, but it was a lot of money, and I think that emboldened him.
	And so now he has decided that in order to keep that gravy train going, if he can just lie about high-dollar items going missing from his, by the way, has at any point it been suggested that I was the thief?
	I'm just curious.
	No, he blamed Little Chris for the theft.
	I was worried.
	Right.
	But, of course, he did in his comments about that video, he did make a suggestion maybe could be Little Chris or Chefus or myself.
	But that's like, why would I go up to Martinez, California, steal an iPad?
	Which I'm not an Apple junkie person.
	Well, you don't look very light on your feet either.
	I don't know that you could do this without waking him up.
	I really don't.
	That is true.
	And second of all, I was at work, so it's like, I got a perfect alibi.
	I was at work on a Monday.
	So it's like, and plus, it takes me from where I live, it takes me about seven hours to get seven, eight hours to get up there, depending on traffic, from where I live to Martin's California.
	This is not worth it to steal an iPad that you can't even log into, is it?
	Yeah, that's correct.
	See?
	So clearly, you're not the thief.
	Right.
	Next question.
	Raleigh.
	So, but apparently somebody's sent him a Kindle fire or something, but he didn't like it.
	So he sent that back to Amazon to get a new one.
	I'm sure he made a point of rubbing it into the giver's face that he did not, in fact, like the gift, didn't he?
	That's correct.
	He did.
	Okay, see.
	And so, Mike, that just brings up to the question why he went to American River Colleges in Sacramento to study computer science at that time.
	I don't believe that.
	I don't believe it either.
	I don't believe he's ever been.
	I don't believe he has accrued a single college hour, credit hour.
	I did double check.
	He did attend a few classes at American River.
	How could you verify that, though?
	Have you validated that?
	I know somebody who worked there who worked there.
	They remember him?
	They look up at the transcripts.
	Oh, really?
	Could they get in trouble for giving you that information?
	They could.
	We did it under the table based.
	I give him some extra money.
	You know something?
	The Mud King's in the chat room, and he makes a good point.
	Why would the thief not take the evil MV laptop, which I think, based on its infamous history, the storied legacy behind how that laptop came to be, I would think that it is just intrinsically more valuable by far than any iPad?
	Of course, remember what I told you for the show about the virus, Hunter, the malware.
	I said that it had malware on it.
	Okay, so we need to be clear about this.
	What you're saying at this moment is that the entire storyline, what was that, season four, maybe?
	I don't remember.
	Yeah, season three or season four forgotten.
	You are the catalyst for all of the MV's virus stuff.
	I mean, that was you.
	You are the person who planted that idea in Falke's mind, and it just from there went absolutely bat shit crazy.
	Yeah, I planted this seed and watered it and did a little bit of fertilizing on it.
	And of course, every Bill Galber out there did a good job of carrying that on, basically.
	So it's easy to mind fuck Falke.
	Who's the it's there's this guy.
	He's got autism and he decided he was a woman one day.
	Christian Chandler is his name.
	And I would recommend people look him up.
	As a matter of fact, if you get on YouTube, there's a good documentary about this Christian Chandler, who from the earliest possible moment in his life began putting every aspect, every facet of his personal life and his personal details out there on the internet for people to be made aware of.
	And he is famous, effectively.
	I mean, if you go look at this documentary about him, it's about an hour long, maybe a little longer, actually.
	And it is just amazing the story behind this guy and how they, I think they call them sagas, like they're individual, like in Falkey's case, the MV laptop would be a saga.
	The whole beating Kathy thing would be another saga.
	The doing a TV show with George would be a saga.
	The broken glasses would be a different saga.
	And this Christian Chandler has all of this, there's the same vibe about his whole internet presence.
	And I would really encourage everybody to go watch that documentary with Falke in mind as you're watching it and just make comparisons in terms of the parallels between the two.
	I'll go check that out later then.
	Yep, Christian Chandler.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hey, MV.
	It's PBS.
	You know, I was just thinking about you today, and I thought to myself, I haven't seen her around in a while.
	I kind of wonder if she just sort of went away again.
	And we'll see her again in nine months.
	No, I've just been busy.
	I changed job positions and got a $2 raise.
	Woohoo!
	Hey, that adds up.
	What is that?
	You work a 40-hour week, so that's $80 additional per week, $320 a month.
	That's not chump change.
	No, I'm doing all right.
	No, I didn't really go away.
	I wanted to call up.
	First of all, I would have hosted, but I'm too fucking lazy to hook up my mic.
	Well, I wish you had.
	Well, maybe I should go do that, right?
	You still could.
	I mean, I could get you in here.
	Yeah, I probably could do that.
	I got a Windows 10 computer because I'm going to do some podcasting.
	So, you know how that is.
	I'm not, you know, I don't really have a lot of problem with Windows 10.
	I hear so many people dogging it, but there are things about it I don't like.
	For instance, Bluetooth and Windows 10 sucks.
	With this creator's update, which is the latest revision of Windows 10, if you're keeping up with all of your updates, you should have the creator's update by now.
	And it wrecked Bluetooth connectivity.
	Just for that reason alone, on my main TV in the living room, I've got a 65-inch Visio with a PC connected to it.
	And that is our sole form of entertainment.
	We don't have satellite TV, we don't have cable TV.
	Just because with a full-blown PC and a wireless mouse and keyboard connected to it, you can get all the need.
	I mean, there's nothing you are going to be deprived of.
	And all I do in terms of gaming is play Left 4 Dead.
	I mean, that is the only game I play.
	And my friends who are.
	Did you play that on a PC?
	Yeah, I play it exclusively on PC.
	Yeah.
	And that's cool.
	Through Steam.
	I remember playing in an Xbox like a million years ago.
	Yeah, me too.
	But if you play it on a PC, the graphics are way better.
	The online gameplay is way better and free.
	You can install mods and stuff.
	You can install additional levels that actual regular people have developed.
	It's insane what it is an entirely different game on the PC.
	And you do it through Steam.
	Online gameplay is free.
	It really is great.
	And you can use an Xbox 360 controller, either wired or wireless on a PC.
	So it's like, I mean, it's everything good about the Xbox 360 experience, but a whole bunch of other great stuff on top of it.
	But that is the only game I play on this thing.
	And I really love to do it with a pair of Bluetooth headphones.
	And then along comes this creator's update for Windows 10.
	And the weirdest stuff started happening.
	Like, you'll complete a level, and then you get to the end of it, and it starts to go to the next level.
	And for some reason, if you're using Bluetooth, the whole thing locks up and you have to restart your entire computer.
	I mean, it is the biggest pile of insanity I've ever encountered.
	And there were other problems with Bluetooth as well and Windows 10.
	So eventually I just said, you know what, to hell with this.
	Yeah, Windows 10 is faster than Windows 7.
	It's easier to get to a lot of stuff in Windows 10 than it is 7.
	But I just cannot abide this.
	And I will not abide this.
	So I went back to Windows 7 on my main machine.
	But like the privacy concerns people have about Windows 10, you can install something called the oh God, who is Spybot Anti-Beacon.
	And that will insert some entries in your hosts file that will block all of that telemetry communication that Microsoft relies upon to spy on you in Windows 10.
	So between that and turning off a whole bunch of features, you can pretty much not have to worry about being spied on.
	Although, and I'm sorry, I'm getting off in the weeds here on tech bullcrap, but so I so rarely podcast anymore.
	You've got to kind of just get it out.
	I was reading that in the creators update, even people who are using Windows 10 Pro or the Enterprise version, which I didn't even realize there was an Enterprise version of Windows 10, but there is apparently.
	Even if people go into group policy and turn off this telemetry stuff, it is still being sent to Microsoft.
	So I think the only way you can reliably block that stuff is to use something like Spybot Anti-Beacon and block that stuff at the DNS level and hope for the best.
	I was also reading that Windows 10, as a result of all this telemetry, has prompted the Chinese government to require an entirely separate version of Windows 10 intended for specifically the Chinese government.
	The ultimate irony being, if you want a, well, I'll put an asterisk on this.
	I'll qualify these remarks.
	But if you want a copy of Windows 10 through which Microsoft doesn't spy on you, you need to get one that was intended for the red Chinese communist government.
	That's the one you need to get if you don't want to be spied on.
	But then again, you're probably being spied on by the Chinese government, of course, if you get that one.
	So what are you going to do?
	Use Linux, I guess.
	I've tried the Linux desktop experience so many times, and I just, every time I run into something that's a showstopper, and I just eventually gave up.
	I kind of just came to the conclusion that I really don't think Linux was intended to be used by regular people on a desktop PC to do the things that regular people do on a desktop PC.
	It's just pretty much that simple.
	But back to your original point, I think Windows 10 is fine for podcasting.
	I think the audio stack, I really like the way everything works in that regard in Windows 10.
	But I think that all came about in Windows 7, or 8, actually.
	But, I mean, it's a great operating system for podcasting, sure.
	What kind of equipment?
	Are you going to have it like a separate mixer and all that stuff?
	Yeah, I bought a mixer when I was doing stuff.
	I don't know.
	I think it's two years ago with the, what did you used to call it?
	The fuck MV podcast, I believe.
	Oh, yeah.
	I bought a mixer.
	I bought a mixer then, so I had to buy a couple different cables because a couple of my cables were busted.
	And believe it or not, you're talking about Bluetooth.
	So, right.
	So my mom gives me this free computer with Windows 10 on it, tower.
	And it has no Bluetooth.
	Can you believe that?
	Like, I had to buy a dongle, so I have Bluetooth.
	Oh, yeah, that's what I had to do on my tower, too.
	I'm like, seriously, they're making stuff with no Bluetooth.
	Are you kidding me?
	Well, I have some advice.
	I have some advice for you there.
	If you plug that blue, and I found this out the hard way, if you plug that dongle in, just plug it in, and it miraculously works, and you start doing stuff with it, don't think you're done because you're not.
	You really need to go get the actual drivers from the mint, yeah, from the manufacturer of that dongle and install them.
	Because in retrospect, I'm beginning to wonder if that wasn't my actual problem in Windows 10 and that maybe it wasn't Windows 10's fault.
	I probably should have put that at the front end of my complaints about, because it might not have been fair to blame the creator's update on all that.
	But still, I mean, Windows shouldn't be telling you that the drivers are installed if they're not really installed.
	That's my opinion.
	Yeah, I agree.
	You know, sorry we're nerding out and getting away from Falky, but I'm not really sorry about that.
	No, I'm not sorry about that at all.
	I have a Bell Gab related question, and then I have another question.
	You go right ahead, sweetie.
	Oh, thank you.
	I like when you call me Sweetie and Sugar.
	Isn't that what you usually do?
	Oh, that's great, babe.
	Exactly.
	Carry on to.
	You aren't selling Bellgab, right?
	That's some horrific rumor that someone started.
	No, I'm not.
	I mean, I would, of course, sell everything in this world is for sale.
	I mean, so in terms of being entirely accurate, I would have to say it like that.
	But nobody's made me any offers on Bellgab.
	And the crazy person that started that thread is just crazy.
	Nah, he's just having a good time with you guys.
	But I will say.
	Yeah, I'm not sure who he used to be because the names changed.
	It's the one.
	It's the one.
	I don't know why he's not using his previous logins because they're all there.
	All of his accounts are open.
	I think he's probably got, God, I'll bet he's got at least 10 accounts on Bellgab.
	Probably.
	That's hilarious.
	Oh, but they're all accessible.
	I'm sorry.
	Go ahead.
	No, I'm sorry.
	So you know how the delay is when it sucks.
	Anyway, so like I replied to a message, a private message and replied to the admin.
	So I'm not sure if you got that, but that was really funny when that happened and I knew I did it.
	I'm not sure what you're referring to.
	What are you talking about?
	So here's how it goes.
	Like, if you get a private message, it sends me an email, like to my email account.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, so I responded to the email and not the private message, and I caught it.
	And whoever was manning the Bell Gab admin messaged me back and thought it was funny.
	And I messaged them back because I'm like, yeah, I kind of know I did that.
	Because I'm not thinking.
	You reply to your stuff on your phone because most of us have a phone in our pocket now.
	Well, no.
	It was me that responded, but I responded by replying to the email.
	I didn't respond in PM, right?
	Right, which was funny.
	So it was you.
	Yeah, it was me.
	By the way, I thought it was you.
	And what was funny about it is, by the way, anybody else who does this, if you get an email message saying you have a PM and you respond in the email, it's going to go to MV.
	Yeah.
	Just a heads up.
	You know, I actually, at one point in the past, I had it set up so that when that notification email went out, it did not contain the text of the PM that was sent to you.
	It simply said you've been sent to PM.
	Yes.
	And then at some point in the past, the forum got broken somehow.
	Something went wrong.
	I don't know.
	And I ended up having to do a clean install of the Form software, which resets everything back.
	Every modification I've made puts it all back to...
	It goes back.
	Yep.
	And that's just one of those things I never got around to changing.
	But I mean, over the years, my God, I can't count the number of times people have gotten that notification that says you've got a private message.
	And instead, they see the content of the private message in that.
	Yeah, and they reply in the email, and it comes to me.
	That has happened so many.
	And oh my God, the number of times it happened with art, the number of things art replied to, that was uber hilarious, as the kids say.
	I bet it was.
	I bet you have great jerks that you will never tell anyone.
	Well, you know, you have to just, if you don't keep stuff like that under your hat and you don't just stay out of that sort of thing, mind your own business, long term, it's going to be really detrimental because everybody's going to feel like they don't have any privacy or they're going to feel like they could be compromised by you at any time.
	So I just have to keep my face shut about anything I've ever learned as a result of that.
	But let that be a notification for all of you out there.
	If you're going to reply to that email, it comes to me.
	So hopefully you're not Chefist out there blabbing about secrets I've told him.
	And then Pony Boy Sunset's responding to him going, oh my God, really?
	Oh, I can't believe that.
	And then I'm replying to that saying, well, Chefist, good job on your secret keeping skills there.
	You might want to work on that a bit.
	By the way, I haven't told anyone and I think it's funny.
	Like, personally, I just post under my account.
	If I'm going to talk shit about someone, I'm going to do it under my own name.
	It's just how I am.
	You know, like, I don't have a problem about it, but it was just really funny.
	And as soon as I sent it out, I had the, and I loved it, I can swear, I had, oh, fuck.
	I know I just did that moment, you know, where I'm like, ugh.
	What she's talking about, what she's talking about, I can talk about the subject matter here without giving specifics, but there is someone who was going around the forum basically stalking Sheffist almost and giving him a hard time.
	And eventually I was like, you know, this is bullshit because I knew who this person was.
	And I thought, man, this is just such phony bullshit.
	What a chicken shit this guy is.
	And so I told Sheffist, I was like, hey, I just want you to know who that is because it was surprising to me.
	And I knew it would be equally surprising to him, but I also knew that for him, that would put a lot of what was happening into context because he'd had a past with that person, but under their previous persona.
	I thought it was someone else.
	We totally thought it was someone else and we accused the wrong person, which is kind of hilarious in retrospect.
	Yeah, that's not something I would normally do.
	Tell somebody something like that.
	But in this case, I just thought it was so egregious and so lame that.
	Well, yeah, if you're going to, look, look, if you're going to like, and you've seen me on the board, it's not like I've never talked shit about people.
	If you're going to talk shit, do it under your own handle.
	I mean, own it, right?
	You know, that's what Bell Gab is.
	We all own it, you know.
	So, and I have one more thing before I get out of here about streaming.
	Now, I don't know if you're getting other callers.
	I'm sorry.
	No, I'm not.
	You take as much time as you want.
	I don't care.
	Awesome.
	So, like, I'm working on a podcast currently I'm going to do with Pi.
	Pywacket.
	I think that's their name.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Yeah, we're working on the podcast, and I want to know about it.
	I'm going to do a podcast with this person.
	What's their name?
	I don't know.
	I mean, is it a man or a woman?
	Do they use Bellgab?
	There's somebody that's going to do something with me somewhere.
	Yeah, right.
	But, you know, I don't know the streaming end of it because I normally, quote unquote, the talent.
	I don't do that part of it, so I don't know.
	So I'm working on doing the stream, and I didn't know if I could hijack your stream or if I had to pay you or how that works.
	You're free to use my stream anytime you want.
	What I'm going to do, what I'm going to do is it's all in place for me to make this work already, but I just haven't flipped the switch on any of it.
	But the way it's set up now is there's this auto DJ system where, you know, how the UFO ship stream, it just plays old shows 24-7.
	Well, the way that's set up now, I actually have a laptop here at my house that's in real time streaming all of that stuff to the Shoutcast server.
	And then from there, it gets streamed out to anybody who's listening.
	But what you can do is you can instead upload all of those audio files of those shows to the Shoutcast host.
	And then I can entirely shut this laptop off when I'm not doing a live show.
	And the thing that's nice about that is if you or anybody else wants to do a show of any kind, what you can do is you'll have your own login in order to connect to the Shoutcast stream.
	And what it'll do is it'll stop whatever's playing at that moment.
	Your stuff comes on.
	And then when you're done, whatever was playing picks up right where it left off.
	And that way, you don't have to have like VNC access to be able to control my stream laptop here or any of that.
	You can just do it.
	It'll work great.
	We can't thank you enough because I want to talk to you about that.
	And I don't even care about doing it publicly because I've had people talk to me about it, so it doesn't matter anyway.
	Well, I pay $5 a month for my Shoutcast hosting.
	So, you know, you're not really putting me out.
	Let's just put it that way.
	Don't worry about it.
	It's not like I haven't kicked you money before.
	I would kick you money if we're doing it.
	It's not a big deal.
	Like, fine.
	You know, I use the forum.
	I use your software, that's great because then I can use the chat.
	So if we start doing this, or even if I want to do something small on my own, I could literally say, hey, go here.
	This is where it's at.
	And that rocks of me.
	So thank you so much.
	You know, you know, Pony Boy Sunset, you really should not mention the fact that you've ever sent money to me because there are a lot of people out there who get really butthurt at the thought that I'm receiving money for anything that goes on in the whole Belgab universe.
	So you're just making people hate me more.
	Well, that's okay.
	Then I'll just send you some money when I get done talking to you because this is stupid.
	If I use a service, if there's something I use, I'm going to pay for it because that's how I work.
	I mean, that's like if I'm sitting here talking to you, before I get off the phone, I'll probably plug my book and be out of here.
	Why shouldn't I pay you for that?
	I'm using your service.
	Well, you really are a sweetheart.
	And, you know, some of those emotions got really retarded whenever Art quit this last time around and people started coming in saying nasty things to him, which is entirely predictable.
	I mean, anybody who was shocked that that happened, I don't know really what sort of Fred Rogers universe you grew up in, but I thought that what happened was entirely predictable.
	And people started coming in flaming me for making money off of the forum's existence while that's going on.
	It's just like, you know what?
	You come in here without telling anybody anything about yourself.
	We can't examine you.
	We can't know what you do in your personal life.
	We can't know how you make a living, if you even do, to render judgment on how acceptable it is to us.
	But you're going to come in here and pass judgment on me because what?
	I started a website that people happen to use and it happens to make a little bit of money.
	And because of what's happening currently in that moment on the website, I'm supposed to just shut AdSense off.
	I'm just supposed to, my moral instinct is supposed to tell me when to turn off AdSense because, oh, things are a little salty right now.
	No man should profit from this.
	Click, is that really how people think the world works?
	Well, first of all, we live in a capitalist society.
	You're just doing what we are, you know, what we live in.
	I mean, how is that bad?
	Like, I've never understood that.
	Like, if I'm using your site and I'm on it all the time, because I am, okay?
	And you just offer me your stream.
	So why wouldn't I pick you some money?
	Like, to me, that's logical.
	Like, this is the world we live in, right?
	Like, well, whatever you send, whatever you send, let's hopefully make sure that it's got three digits before the decimal, okay?
	Thanks, PBS.
	You have a good night.
	Okay.
	Hey.
	You sound so enthusiastic.
	Are you hanging up on me?
	That would be typical and these sound.
	Suddenly.
	I keep saying, I want suddenly the $3 donation you were going to send just doesn't feel like it's going to have any impact.
	You just sound so deflated.
	I love when you do that.
	I have one more thing to say before I get out of here.
	So I'm teaching myself bass, and you're a drummer, right?
	As a matter of fact, I'm more of a drummer right now than I've been in a long time.
	That's why I hardly podcast because I've been playing gigs.
	I'm in the house band.
	That's awesome.
	I would say probably the most happening place to be in, to play in this area, at least, which isn't saying a whole lot, but hey, so what?
	I'm out there doing it.
	Big deal.
	Having fun, right?
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, the amount of money you make definitely would require you to be having fun because.
	It's like minimal for sure, right?
	Yeah, I mean, you go there, and I mean, first of all, you got to think about all the practice time.
	You've got to think about largely we're playing cover tunes, and so you've got to think about all the rehearsal time, getting that in, personal investment of equipment, just a lot of personal time investment, and then the actual time going there and playing.
	And then when it's all done at the end of the night, you know, you might get $120, $100 or $150, something like that.
	And so, yeah, you better enjoy it because it's not something you're going to get rich doing, that I can assure you.
	But we are, I think we're a really good band.
	I think we're really solid, but it's just taken up a lot of my time between that and family.
	Some people think I've died and it's being kept a secret just until we can figure out what's going to be done about forum administration.
	But no, I just, my life is pretty busy.
	And between that and the family and HIV, it really is hard to keep up.
	It really is.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, the age is a bitch, right?
	Well, I'm finally at a great weight.
	I'll put that out there.
	I'm finally at an appreciable weight.
	We'll just say that.
	Now, where it goes from here, I don't know.
	Well, it's great to hear that you're in a house band because that means something in the music world.
	Like, I haven't dipped my toe that way, but I'm a drummer by trait.
	I drummed in high school.
	Like, I have lessons and stuff.
	And I just, I wanted to learn to play guitar and I couldn't.
	Like, I'm just not that coordinated, which is dumb.
	I can do four different things with my limbs, but I can't play chords.
	If you were a drummer in high school, you're probably a technically better drummer than me.
	I don't know how you'd be like, if you sat down behind a full kit, I don't know how we would stack up against one another.
	But when it comes to like the technical rudiments of playing the drums, you know, flams, you know, just the proper paradigms, all the things that you learn as fundamentals in drumming.
	I never had any of that taught to me.
	I'm entirely self-taught from the age of 16.
	Now I'm 37.
	I've been at this for about 21 years.
	But the thing with me has always been that I've never stuck with it without breaks, you know, over those years.
	I mean, there have been times where, like, for a whole year, let's say, I wasn't able to play the drums, maybe because of where I was living or my work circumstances, whatever the issue happened to be.
	I've never been one of these people that just forever in perpetuity have been able to sit down at drums and play them whenever I want.
	And that's really impeded me a lot.
	But I'm finally getting past that and I'm getting into a place skill-wise where I'm really feeling good about how I'm playing.
	If you had asked me ever before, yeah, I play drums, but I'm amateur at best.
	But I'm starting to get to that point where I think, you know what, I might be able to smash your face a little bit.
	You know, I think it's a feel.
	I'm going to be honest with you, because I had lessons.
	I'm a flute player by trait, and then I took up drums.
	Like, I just was naturally good at it.
	And like I said, I wanted to learn guitar because I wanted to write music.
	So I've taught myself bass before.
	Like, I know the structure.
	I know how it goes.
	And as a drummer, to learn bass is sort of easy as far as rhythm goes.
	You already have it.
	So that's what I've been doing.
	That's why I'm not on the forum.
	I posted a picture of my bass and no one said anything because they're all in the faulty thread.
	You know, like I'm posting stuff where I'm like, hey, someone should give me some feedback.
	I know there are other musicians and they're all elsewhere.
	You know what I mean?
	It's kind of funny.
	Like, I spent some money in a middle of the road bass and, you know, I'm having a good time with it.
	But kudos to you, MV, that you feel like you're past the amateur stuff.
	I think it's a feel.
	I don't think anyone can teach you.
	I mean, I think they can teach you fundamentals, but overall, I've learned stuff by ear and I've learned stuff by playing.
	Yeah, I would like to sit down with somebody who could teach me those actual fundamentals, those rudimentary things.
	But at the same time, you know, there's a fear that it might change what you're doing if you like what you're doing and other people like what you're doing.
	I mean, there's something to be said for being a totally organic person in terms of coming to be within an instrument as opposed to somebody else showing you how to play it.
	Yeah, and I think obviously you're doing well.
	I mean, you're in a house band.
	I mean, even if it's small money, that's a big deal.
	I have friends who have a – yeah, it is.
	I have friends who play in Dayton and they make money.
	Like, they're a house band here and there, and then they do festivals.
	Yeah, it's a big deal.
	We do it every other Friday, and I don't want to tell anybody where because I just don't need anybody pulling a dime bag Daryl on me.
	Of course, you do not.
	And privately, we could talk, you know, and I'm not anywhere near where you live anyway.
	But yeah, I mean, that's great.
	Yeah, because it is you that I'm frightened of, Pony Boy Sunset.
	Oh, yeah, because I'm totally a stalker as my reputation proceeds.
	You know, it's funny that you mentioned playing bass.
	I'm kind of thinking it would be awesome if we could play together somehow.
	And when we were putting the house band together, and there was this really crabby old keyboard player that came along when we were getting everybody assembled and putting a band together.
	And he wanted everybody to play together through some internet thing that he does.
	And I can't remember what it was called, but everybody plays together over the internet instead of having to physically get together.
	He wanted us to do that, but I was just never really that hip to the idea because I'm thinking, hello, latency.
	I mean, there's just no way to get around that.
	But he says if your latency is 30 milliseconds or less, you can't detect it with the human ear.
	And I don't know if that's true or not.
	I mean, but I'm sitting here like coming back to Left 4 Dead.
	You go into the server settings and you take a look at what your latency is.
	Mine's never less than like 50 milliseconds.
	I mean, that's great if it's 50.
	So, but then again, maybe there's a middleman there that wouldn't be there with this thing he wants to do.
	I don't know.
	Maybe that's slowing things down.
	I don't know.
	Maybe that's something we ought to look into because at my office, I used to have a studio, but I took it out because I wasn't using it that much.
	But I've been thinking about setting it back up again and making my drums again.
	And if I did that, we could play together.
	That'd be awesome.
	Maybe like I could, I'm sure there's a way I can wire my bass into my computer.
	Oh, yeah, that's not a problem.
	It's easy.
	I mean, if you're getting a mixer for podcasting, that would totally do it.
	I already have one.
	I have a Behringer that was like $150 when I bought it.
	Okay.
	Well, you've already got what you need.
	Yeah.
	So, by the way, I'm so sorry, Damon, that we're ignoring you.
	It was on my bread when I called.
	Yeah, when she called, I said, Pony Boy Sunset, do not ignore him.
	And she said, you know what, Envy?
	Piss off.
	I'm going to ignore him.
	And I said, well, okay.
	That's okay.
	I'm not offended.
	I'm just enjoying listening to you two talk.
	Well, it's just like, I'm excited.
	Like, that would be awesome to, like, practice with someone because as I'm learning, I would love to play with other people because that'll make me a better musician.
	Well, we'll figure out what we're going to do.
	I don't know how it's going to work.
	I mean, we're going to have to either use the song.
	I'll get a hold of this guy and find out what exactly it was he was using.
	And I'll look into other things as well.
	I remember the guy from the guy that started Nullsoft back in the 90s, which is the company that Winamp came out of, he created something that does this that allows bands to play together over the internet remotely, which back in the late 90s, holy crap, I can't imagine how well that would have worked considering the internet connections people had in those days.
	Even if you had a high-speed connection back in those days, the traffic that you're receiving or sending would be traveling through routers out there in the internet that were nowhere near as advanced as they are now.
	So it just seemed like back then, everything would have been stacked against you if you were trying to do that.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hey, I'm sorry, my call dropped.
	Oh, piss off.
	I hung up on you.
	You know how this works.
	Oh, did you really?
	Yeah, I did.
	I'm sorry.
	So hang up on me again.
	Okay, there she goes.
	If you want to be on the show, we have a phone number.
	It's 573-837-4948-573-837-4948.
	If you want to call in.
	Go ahead, Damon.
	So, Envy, what type of music do you like?
	Do you like heavy metal?
	Do you like Rocket General Country?
	What type of music do you play?
	Well, we have an entire set of Eagles songs, which I'm not a huge Eagles fan.
	It's a little too country for my taste.
	But we do play an entire set of Eagles songs and some Don Henley solo.
	I think between the Eagles songs and the two Don Henley solo and one Glenn Fry solo, which the Glenn Fry solo tune that we play is just such dog shit.
	I don't even know why we're playing it.
	It's Party Town.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We're going to Party Town.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's, I mean, if you're going to play a Glenn Fry solo song, I would, solo thong.
	If you're going to play a Glenn Fry solo song, I would think you'd want to play You Belong to the City.
	Wee, wee, wee, wee, wee.
	You belong to the night.
	You know that one?
	Yeah, I heard that song before.
	Yeah, I would think that would be the one you were going to want to play by Glenn Fry, but no, we're doing, uh, we basically typed in into Google pile of shit Glenn Fry solo song, enter, and party town was what we got.
	So thank you to the guy who put our play set or our set list together.
	That's, that's great.
	Uh, we play some Zeppelin, although not as much as I'd like.
	I'm a big Zeppelin fan.
	I'd like to play some Pink Floyd as well, really, but I don't know if that's ever going to happen.
	Do you play like Guns N' Roses songs?
	No, we don't.
	Not that there's any necessarily any objection to that, but we just don't.
	You know, we've got a set list of about 40 songs.
	You know, for some reason, I don't know why this is, but when people ask us, what do you play?
	I mentioned the Eagle set, and then I start drawing a blank on everything that's not a part of that.
	I don't know why.
	And so I'm doing it right now.
	I'm drawing a blank on the other things that we play.
	But when I'm there and we're doing it, it's like, okay, here we go.
	Next tune.
	It's weird how that works.
	Anyway, Damon, what do you want to talk about?
	There is a little bit of news in the Art Bell world.
	Apparently, Art Belt, his son was born earlier today.
	So Alexander Bill.
	I saw Paperboy on the forum said, oh, good job, Art.
	Now you're going to, with a name like that, your son's going to fare really well on the playground.
	But I'm sure everybody will call him Alex, not Alexander.
	I mean, how many people have a long, drawn-out, unnecessary, unwieldy name on their birth certificate, but nobody calls them that.
	Although I'm sure Paperboy was being a little bit facetious.
	Well, he is good at that.
	Yeah, I would send Art a congratulatory note, but I'm sure that he's being pummeled with thousands of those.
	And even if he weren't being pummeled with thousands of them and he saw mine, I highly doubt there would be a response.
	So, yeah.
	But congratulations to Art.
	It's nice to have a new little baby.
	Although, the baby raising process is a big giant pain in the ass.
	Damon, do you have any kids?
	No, I don't.
	Why?
	Do you want kids?
	Not really.
	Why?
	They're a pain in the butt.
	They're not worth a tax deduction.
	On that, I disagree.
	That tax deduction can be spoiled my nieces and nephews.
	Hmm.
	Yeah, but whose eyes are you going to look into when you die?
	I mean, seriously.
	Do you have a woman in your life?
	Not right now.
	I'm in between girlfriends right now.
	You're in between.
	When was the last one?
	A few months ago.
	Really?
	Like, how many months?
	About like nine months ago.
	Were you serious?
	No, it wasn't that serious.
	Like, at what level was your relationship?
	Were you, I mean, just going out places together?
	Did it go beyond that?
	Oh, but she asked if I want a kid.
	I said no, and this pretty much was it.
	She wanted kids.
	I said, I don't want a kids.
	And that's pretty much we left.
	Yeah.
	I think that that's really the typical interaction between a man and a woman when it comes to kids.
	Because while actually I never thought I'd get married, never mind having kids, I never envied a single married person that I saw.
	And I definitely never envied anybody that I saw with children.
	It just looked like a big giant pain in the ass to me.
	And I just never wanted it for myself.
	But once you have it, it's a nice thing and you're glad you have it.
	But I can't remember what I was going to say.
	I lost my train of thought.
	I don't know why.
	But I'll go back to this.
	That's a common interaction between men and women that the men are, if they could go without having the children, they would.
	But it's the woman, it's the women who say, no, I want children.
	I mean, that was the case for me.
	I mean, I would have been fine having no children.
	If my wife, two weeks after we got together, said, I'm going to go have my tubes tied now, I would have said, honey, whatever your decision is, I'm going to support you.
	But deep down inside, I'd be saying, all right, you know, just because life can be a lot easier without children, but it adds a certain spice to your life.
	It adds a certain texture, a certain character.
	But once you have kids, you do, I mean, maybe it's a little sappy.
	I don't know.
	But I think about this, like, when that moment of death comes, really.
	I mean, it is, you do extract some level of comfort thinking about the notion of seeing your children as you die.
	Like, if you had a sort of orderly death where you're laying in a bed and your family's all standing around you and your children are there, that would be really comforting.
	But I think if you got old and died and you didn't have a spouse, you didn't have any children, you didn't really have any close friends, no close family.
	But even if you did have close friends or family, I'm not sure that would be the same as if you had your own children to be there with you.
	And for me to be thinking about these things at 37 either means I'm just a wise, pensive person or I'm a paranoid personality who needs some level of perhaps both analysis and medication.
	But those are the things I think about.
	So what I'm telling you, Damon, is before you die, you need to start pumping out some children.
	I don't know how you're going to get it done.
	I don't know what the process is going to be for you, but let's go ahead and get that taken care of.
	Hey, buddy?
	Okay.
	Sounds like a plan.
	All right.
	573-837-4948-573-837-4948.
	So congratulations to Art Bell, a new little boy.
	And a lot of people have kind of been on his ass.
	Why would you have a child when you're 70 years old?
	There's just predictable, miserable people who I'm telling you, like having kids is the most effective middle finger you can give to the Grim Reaper.
	As a human being, as a sentient being in this universe, there's nothing closer to at least trying to immortalize yourself than reproducing.
	I think that at the root, other than the human desire to just engage in the carnal act of having sex, it's the subconscious desire not to die.
	It's the subconscious desire to perpetuate yourself.
	And so the closest, the most easily reachable method of doing that that we have as living, breathing, carbon-based organic beings is to reproduce.
	So if I were 70 years old and I were sick, but I had a lot of money and I know that everybody's going to be taken care of when I'm gone, I would probably have, I wouldn't have any problem having kids.
	If I were married to a woman who's of childbearing years, who doesn't mind the fact that I may not be there when that kid is 15, 20 years old, hey, whatever.
	I see no problem with it.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hey, this is Radio Activity.
	I called in, but I've enjoyed your work for many years.
	My work.
	You're talking about that.
	My work.
	I'm thinking back to spilling soda on my mixer.
	I'm thinking about sloppily spittling into the microphone as I'm drunk on Jack and Coke.
	I'm glad you appreciate my work of the past.
	I thought it was the cat.
	I thought it was the cat that puked on the mixer.
	Well, that was a different episode, sir.
	Okay.
	Entirely.
	So what brings you to the broadcast?
	Just can I ask you a few questions?
	You go right ahead, please.
	So on ufoship.com, why aren't all the podcasts listed like on one page or with an index?
	I've tried to listen to them all in order, and then you get out of sync, and it's very confusing.
	Okay, here's what you need to do.
	I think maybe you just need to rethink how you're viewing the page.
	If you go to ufoship.com with nothing else on the URL, what you see on that page is every episode of every show in the order they were posted.
	And if you scroll down and you click on older posts, it just continues from there and you go back.
	But you are seeing all of the shows that UFOShip carries in the order they were submitted.
	Now, if you click on any of the show, if you click on any of the show names in the menu above, for instance, I'll click on the Gabcast, You'll see only that show in the order that it was posted.
	So I think you can achieve your goals with the way it's currently laid out.
	Right, but it's just difficult to keep doing the previous posts or previous shows going back.
	If there was like a list of all of the gab casts and all of the spec sheets, that would be I guess I could just download them all.
	Well, another thing you can do is if you go to ufo ship.com forward slash archive, you will see in file format, like a listing of the actual audio files that are used to supply those shows.
	And that's a pretty good list.
	They're broken down by date.
	How's that?
	That's looking at it now.
	That's exactly what I'm that's exactly what I wanted.
	Thank you.
	Speaking of the date, I really wish you would say shows.
	When I'm listening to a show on the stream and then I hear something I want to go back and play for someone else, I can't find the show because I don't know the date of the show.
	Yeah, that's a good point.
	You know, that's just one of those things I never think to do.
	For the record, today is Saturday, July 1st, 2017.
	You know, sir, I did not give permission for you to do that.
	I did not.
	Are you going to hang up on me now?
	No, no, no.
	I only do that to Pony Boy Sunset and a few others.
	Okay, I have another question for you.
	Go right ahead.
	Sure.
	So, so you run this stream 24-7, and I assume it's on a machine.
	You have the archives that's in your house somewhere.
	Right.
	Isn't that, I mean, it's the power of that.
	At any time, you could just push the button and say, hi, this is, you know, Michael Van Dieven, and I want to tell you something.
	That just seems like, wow, I would want to use that power more often than you do.
	Yeah, I had that power.
	I think I just, it doesn't have the same, like, if you had told me, I've been doing this since 2006.
	And so if you told me, if you went back, like, say, 15 years ago and told me that at some point I'm going to be able to do this, particularly after I got fed up with working in terrestrial radio, but I still wanted to engage in the act of broadcasting, but this medium just didn't exist in the way it does now.
	If you told me I'm going to be able to do this, I would have just been had my mind blown.
	It would have been an amazing thing to behold.
	But after you do it just for years and years, you know, it's, it's, you know, I think what really happened in terms of me wanting to broadcast frequently is the stress of, it's not really stress necessarily, just the frustration of dealing with the forum and the baggage that goes along with that, like the personalities and all of that stuff following you into whatever podcast you're doing,
	whether that podcast is specifically related to the forum or not.
	Like Michael Van Diven's Radio Train Wreck, for instance, that's not specifically a podcast related to Bellgab in any way.
	I mean, it might happen to be that I'm one of the people on that show and I'm a user on Bellgab, but it's not a Bellgab podcast.
	Yet, the drama associated with my involvement in Bellgab follows me to that show.
	And so instead of it being a break from real life, instead of it being an opportunity for me to disconnect from the things in my day-to-day life that bother me or are stressful or frustrating and just engage in an activity that's fun for me, instead that activity in itself becomes a frustration.
	And you know what I've thought about doing is like creating a fake name for myself, starting a website, just an entirely new podcast website, using a fake name and just starting from scratch with a clean slate and not telling anybody who I am or anything about the Belgab universe, none of that, and just starting anew.
	Voice changer.
	Well, I don't know about that.
	I mean, I also thought about having bone marrow infusion.
	I'm going to have bone marrow infusions.
	I really just want to make sure everything is changed.
	I'm not ever literally going to do that.
	But another thing is, you know, when I started out podcasting, I had these delusional ideas that I'm going to do this and I'm so great that some radio guy somewhere is going to hear me and say, hey, buddy, you ought to be on the radio again.
	Why did you stop working in terrestrial radio?
	You ought to be doing this again and we should pay you for the pleasure of hearing your voice.
	And, you know, as time went on, not only does something like that never happen, but you also find that you don't make any money.
	At one point, the Trainwreck show that Evelyn and I do together was being downloaded something on the order of 10 or 11,000 times per month.
	10 or 11,000.
	That was me.
	Okay, well, fuck it.
	There goes that point.
	But, I mean, even with that, it didn't really translate into any sort of traction.
	Nothing that could be parlayed into a profitable enterprise of any kind.
	Nobody ever approached the show and said, hey, can we advertise on the show?
	Nothing like that.
	I even at one point went out and tried setting up affiliate relationships with like Netflix and stuff like that, and they would all get rejected.
	I don't know.
	Now, maybe their philosophy on this sort of thing has changed over the years because podcasts are definitely a lot more dominant now than they were five years ago when I tried that.
	But all of them were rejected.
	And I think that perhaps it was just a matter of at that time, these companies just were asleep at the Switch and had no idea what this podcasting thing represented.
	And the notion of people listening to content on a mobile device on demand, they had no idea.
	They're just stuck in this 1950s view of entertainment and broadcasting where they supply what you listen to and you sit there in a docile fashion with your legs crossed, scrunched up in a little ball, waiting for them to play it for you.
	And that's just not the way it works anymore.
	Yeah, and you listen to their stupid commercials about having your tires changed or getting big gulp sodas.
	Did I say fuck commercials on the radio?
	Yes.
	Please, I'd be upset if you didn't say that.
	I just can't stand anymore.
	Can you, I mean, if you're like me and you're somebody who, and it sounds like you as well, radioactivity, if you're somebody who goes out and regularly listens to podcasts on a mobile device, whether you're commuting or it's while you're working, whatever you're doing while you're gardening, while you are cleaning the kitchen, while you're cooking, You just at a certain point.
	Yeah, just at a certain point, the entire concept of sitting through commercials becomes so anathema to you, it is an entirely inconceivable thing that you would ever do.
	I would never sit through commercials.
	Even some of the podcasts I listen to have commercials infused within them.
	And I'm just, I've got the increments set up just so on the forward button so that if I tap it one time, it's exactly 59 seconds.
	So forward, I know how long this commercial is.
	Forward, forward, forward, forward.
	Okay, we're back to content.
	I mean, even in that universe, I'm just blasting through commercials.
	So does anyone really think I'm going to sit through a commercial stop set?
	No, I'm not.
	Particularly when listening to music.
	I mean, oh my God, is that concept dated?
	music on the radio that's just i don't know what that business is going to do I don't know what that industry is going to do.
	If you're looking around paying any attention at all to the news, you look at companies like Cumulus.
	Their stock, I think a year or two ago, their stock was like $56, $58, $60 per share.
	Now it's, I think, less than 50 cents per share.
	Just an absolute implosion.
	And that is indicative of what's happening throughout the radio business.
	The idea that people are going to sit there and listen to your stupid commercials and you're going to go out to advertisers.
	Radio stations come to my business all the time trying to sell me advertising and I just laugh in their face.
	I'm like, do you understand how antiquated the product you're trying to sell me at this moment actually is?
	I am so unimpressed by the fact that we're even talking right now.
	I say to these, I don't literally say that.
	I'm not a complete asshole.
	Believe me, I temper my remarks, but I do make it very clear that you really should find a different job because the industry you're working in, radio commercial sales, eventually advertisers are going to catch on that you're not doing anything for them anymore.
	And so.
	And commercials have become so insulting.
	They're just horrendous.
	Buy my penis pills here.
	Do you have bad farts?
	I mean, it's just ridiculous.
	If somebody came into my house and said that crap, I'd throw them out.
	Well, a good indicator of what's happened to advertising during content.
	And we can't just limit this to radio broadcasting.
	You can also see the same thing happening in TV broadcasting.
	The nature of the commercials is such that you can tell they are geared for an older and older demographic.
	Go watch any show.
	I resemble that.
	Yep.
	Go watch any show on, let's just say Fox News, for example.
	Go watch Tucker Carlson.
	Tell me how many ads for stuff that old people need you're going to sit through.
	It's all prescription medications, which, by the way, I think should be illegal.
	I don't think any prescription medication should be illegal.
	100%.
	Yeah.
	The idea of a prescription medication manufacturer telling a potential consumer, hey, ask your doctor about this.
	No.
	I, as a non-medical professional, have no business going into my doctor and potentially tainting his diagnosis by saying, hey, what do you think about giving me these pills?
	I saw a commercial for him.
	It's sort of like when I'm working on somebody's network or I'm fixing a computer, I don't want somebody to tell me what they think the solution is to fixing it because A, they're probably way off and have no clue what they're talking about.
	But B, it does something to you psychologically.
	It sort of affects the otherwise natural path you would take in the course of assessing and diagnosing whatever the problem happens to be.
	And the same has to be.
	So they're just pushing drugs.
	They're just pushing drugs.
	That's, well, that much is clear.
	But it just seems to me a doctor is a human being.
	And if you're going into his office, giving him, you're psychologically conditioning him, you're predisposing him to thinking that you need a certain medication when he hasn't even diagnosed you.
	Ask your doctor about Lunesta.
	Ask your doctor about Boniva.
	It's like we take a noun and we add uh at the end.
	Boniva.
	Hi, I'm Sally Field for Boniva.
	You having problems with your bones?
	You need Boniva.
	It's good for profits.
	You're just not compassionate to the shareholders.
	You don't care about them.
	So these people who are watching these shows, these old people who are having all of these prescription medications advertised to them during the Tucker Carlson show, when they finally die off, I don't know what people think is going to ultimately happen, but it's going to be chaotic.
	I'm telling you, in 20 years, the broadcasting landscape, both TV and radio, is going to have such an upheaval that right now, I mean, everybody in the industry has to know it's coming, but they're just sort of whistling past the graveyard.
	Nobody's really acknowledging or admitting it because they just, by admitting it, it's almost, they feel like it's a self-fulfilling prophecy of some sort that if they admit that their industry is changing and that the entire paradigm in terms of how they make money, how they make a living, how they keep themselves afloat is changing.
	It's like they're afraid that that's going to make the change happen.
	But no, it's coming whether they want to admit it or not.
	So, yeah, take a good hard look at cumulus broadcasting industry to see what your future holds for you.
	But I don't know how I got.
	You were asking me about why I don't podcast that much, I guess.
	The power of the stream.
	Yeah, I guess the short answer is that it just doesn't hold the same allure or mystique for me.
	It's not as mesmerizing.
	I mean, I just got, I've gotten so accustomed to doing it.
	I'm so used to it.
	I don't, I mean, I used to get nervous when I would do this.
	It seems better than it seems better than Twitter.
	It seems better than Twitter.
	You mean you tweet things out.
	You could just bam.
	And I mean, that's how I found you was because, you know, you cut into the Art Bell show, and it was just like, wow, what is this?
	This is cool.
	Oh, you're one of those guys.
	I can't believe you.
	You know how many people hated me for that because I would cut into the Art Bell show.
	Oh, I remember those shows.
	I remember that one guy specifically who was really upset that I heard that line.
	Did somebody call in live?
	I don't remember.
	Yeah, somebody called in and they were like complaining.
	You've got to put our art bell back on.
	Why did you cut this off?
	This is crap.
	I don't want to hear this.
	I don't remember that.
	See, now this is one of those moments where your point is duly made.
	If only I knew what the date of the show was, I could go back and listen to that.
	It was probably 2011.
	That's when I first found the stream was 2011.
	Well, the only reason that stream ran was so that I could funnel traffic into Bellgab.
	But once Belgab became big.
	Thank God.
	Well, once Belgab became big enough that it seemed like it was no longer necessary that it have this peripheral traffic motivator, I killed that because the writing was on the wall.
	Eventually, they were going to come after me for streaming art show.
	Is that U7 guy still streaming Art Bell?
	Yes, he is.
	Okay.
	That's Damon, by the way, radioactivity.
	Yeah, we were talking earlier.
	Oh, were you?
	So I have on the on Curtis's random caster.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	How'd that go?
	That was fun.
	It was my first time calling in.
	I have to ask you, your vocabulary always amazed me, and your ability to pull up words and correlate things so quickly.
	I mean, where did you get it?
	Stop it.
	I don't understand how you can do that.
	And then your ability to do that is amazing, but then you can't pronounce the words like murderer and solder.
	And I mean, I understand that.
	No, I know I have a problem with.
	I always said solder.
	I pronounced the L, and that miffed so many people.
	So now I have made a conscious effort now to say solder.
	Is that how I'm supposed to say solder?
	Is that right?
	That's better.
	Okay, solder.
	And murderer.
	Murderer?
	Murderer.
	Murderer.
	That's better.
	Really?
	How was I saying it?
	How did I say it?
	You were saying it more like Evelyn would say it, with that Jewish Northeast kind of thing, a moiterer.
	Really?
	Are you sure I wasn't?
	Are you sure I wasn't like goofing?
	I don't know.
	Do you remember the date of the show?
	I could look it up.
	You know what this comes down to?
	Jew hater!
	No, I'm kidding.
	I don't know.
	I will try to work on my pronunciations.
	I don't know.
	Thank you for saying nice things to me, but I'm just, this is who I am, sir.
	This is how God made me.
	All right.
	I want to ask you one more thing.
	I want to ask you about Morocco.
	When you go to Morocco, I've never been to Africa.
	I've been to Europe, but never been to Africa, North Africa.
	Do you feel uncomfortable?
	I mean, do you change your appearance?
	Do you act differently?
	I heard you say once you wear the jalaba.
	I mean, I'd like to just know a little bit more about that.
	I'd love to visit such exotic places.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	My mic was off.
	I'm sitting here talking and I'm thinking to myself, well, what's happened?
	I'm wearing a jalaba right now.
	Would you believe that?
	If I told you that I am, I'm wearing a job.
	Why are you wearing Andre?
	Well, let's just say the purpose of the jalaba is comfort.
	So I'll let you use your imagination there, sir.
	But no, when you're in Morocco, it's a very westernized country in a lot of ways.
	It's probably the most liberalized Islamic country in the world, or at least it would be at the top of that list.
	The women aren't required to wear burqas or hijabs or any of that bullcrap.
	Although at some point there will probably be some Islamo-fascistic fundamentalist douchebag who will somehow wrest control of the country away from an otherwise moderate monarchy at some point and change all of that.
	Who knows?
	Perhaps it'll be the son of the king.
	It seems like generationally, that's how things go.
	One generation.
	Like if you look at, oh, God, I think it was Muhammad IV, maybe Muhammad 5, I don't know, who was the king of Morocco during World War II.
	Morocco has always had a significant Jewish population.
	And during World War II, the Nazis did everything they could to convince the king of Morocco to ship all of the Jewish population of that country to concentration camps.
	And the Islamic king of the nation of Morocco refused.
	And to this day, among Jews anywhere in the world, you mentioned the king of Morocco during World War II.
	He's revered.
	He's a celebrated man among Jews because he very well easily could have decimated the Jewish population in Morocco.
	And just by his own morality and decency, he chose not to.
	History would have been very different for a lot of people had he just simply, with the stroke of a pen, made a different decision, but he chose not to.
	His son was a son of a bitch who disappeared people, who locked people up as political prisoners, who had no concern or regard whatsoever for the downtrodden, for the little people.
	In fact, in the 70s, there was an assassination attempt.
	He was so hated.
	Now, the guy who attempted the assassination was also a complete son of a bitch, and who knows what the country would have descended into had he taken control.
	His name was General Mohammed Ufkir.
	And while the king, Hassan II was his name, was in his personal jet, Mohammed Ufkir organized a coup attempt using the Moroccan Air Force to shoot down the plane of the king.
	And you can go look at, go do a little searching on Mohammed Ufkir, O-U-F-K-I-R.
	And you'll see pictures of what the plane, the king's plane, looked like after this coup attempt.
	It's amazing that plane landed.
	I can't believe it landed.
	It really got shut up.
	And that must have scared the shit out of some people while they were up in the air.
	You know, you can be flying commercially and there's just a little bit of turbulence and maybe you spill a little bit of your wine on your knee and you start grabbing the armrests of your chair like, you know, bad things are about to go down.
	But imagine someone is in the sky actively trying to shoot you down when you're riding in a basically just a regular airplane that's defenseless.
	This is not Air Force One, he was riding in.
	I'm pretty sure it was like a 727, something like that.
	But it's still just a plane.
	You know, it doesn't have any defensive systems.
	So he was hated.
	He was reviled.
	So much so that an attempt was made on his life.
	And I'm sure that Mohammed Ufkir, as a result of how hated Hassan II was, probably assumed that just the very attempt of this coup, whether specifically the coup attempt itself was successful or not, the fact that the attempt was made would be enough to launch the Moroccan population into a fervor that would motivate them from that point forward to change the government,
	whether Ufkir specifically had succeeded or not.
	But in fact, exactly the opposite happened, perhaps out of fear, perhaps out of some sort of nationalistic pride or obligation, sense of obligation.
	Who knows?
	But no one knows.
	Mohammed Ufkir was executed after that happened.
	And no one knows specifically who shot him.
	The story was never really officially written, but the rumor is that the king himself shot Mohammed Ufkir.
	And Mohammed Ufkir's entire family was taken into a political prison in the Sahara.
	And they were kept there for, I think, about two decades until somehow they escaped to France, where they live to this day.
	Who knows how long they would have been there had they not escaped to France.
	His daughter, I think her name's Malika Ufkir, wrote a book about it, which I keep meaning to read, but I never get around to it.
	And then Hassan II's son, the current king, is loved by everybody.
	He's really liberal.
	He's done a lot in terms of human rights, political freedoms.
	He has taken steps toward ensuring a free press, which is unheard of in Moroccan society.
	When Hassan II was king, nobody would speak negatively about the king in public.
	If people spoke negatively about him, they whispered it.
	Literally.
	My wife has told me about how things were.
	If anybody wanted to talk about the king, even if they were saying something nice, they whispered it.
	That's how tangible the fear was.
	But now you've got this guy, Muhammad VI, that everybody loves.
	He's given running water to the poor.
	He's given them electricity, all these freedoms that they now have that they didn't before.
	And now he's sick.
	If you look at this guy compared to, let's say, 10 or 15 years ago, I think he came to power in 98.
	He does not look like he used to.
	His face is bloated.
	He's clearly on some radical.
	He looks like Jerry Lewis did doing those telethons about 15 or 20 years ago when he was on some sort of steroids or something.
	Worse.
	I mean, his face is so bloated, he must be on steroids or something of that nature.
	And a lot of people suspect he's near death.
	And what's going to happen is either his son is going to take over or his brother is going to take over.
	And nobody knows.
	That's the downside of living in a benevolent dictatorship.
	Yes, a benevolent dictator can get things done, and there's no red tape.
	You want to build a bridge?
	Snap his fingers.
	Stroke of a pen.
	We're going to build a bridge.
	It gets done.
	Nobody has to debate it.
	And about six months later, you've got a really nice bridge.
	But the downside, what happens when he dies?
	Who's going to be in power?
	What sort of capricious and arbitrary decisions is he going to make?
	What will be his thought process?
	And so while currently in Morocco, you can walk around wearing whatever you want.
	Moroccan and foreign women can go wear a bikini on the beach.
	It's a very liberal society.
	Who knows what that's going to become when he dies?
	How about a Christian cross?
	Do you wear a cross?
	Well, when I'm in Morocco, we frequently go to the capital city, which is Rabat, because my wife's family lives just outside of Rabat.
	And we walk past a Christian church almost daily.
	So you could wear a cross.
	Nobody's getting bombed or stabbed.
	You're in far more danger in Paris, I believe, than you are in Morocco, if you can believe that.
	Yeah, I wouldn't go to Paris now.
	See, the thing is, and any credible Moroccan will tell you this.
	The Moroccan people, like if you go to Morocco and you talk to a Moroccan who is not a piece of shit, who's just like a regular person who might be educated or have a decent job, maybe not even educated, but they work and they take care of them.
	What do you mean by a piece of shit, Moroccan?
	Well, let me get, I'll tell you.
	You ask them, what do you think about the Moroccans in France or in the Netherlands, in Holland, who go up there and you listen to somebody like Gert Velders who talks about them throwing trash in the street and just generally making a train wreck out of everything.
	The average Moroccan, the average decent Moroccan will tell you that's why those people have gone to those countries because they are pieces of shit who have no education.
	They have few redeeming qualities.
	And so as a result of that, they couldn't make it for themselves in a country like Morocco.
	Because in a country like Morocco, if you are a criminal or you're somebody who can't be trusted or you are a drug addict or you're completely uneducated or you put all of those possible characteristics together, you are going to live in a gutter.
	Literally, you are going to be eating out of dumpsters because they do not have a social safety net like most westernized countries do.
	And so that's why when someone like Geert Wilderss talks about the horrible things happening as a result of, and he has specifically called out Moroccan immigration, the average decent Moroccan will tell you he is probably 100% correct.
	That's because the gutter trash of Morocco and countries like Morocco are in many cases the ones who are leaving to go to westernized countries where it is easier to take advantage of a system that will serve for you as a social safety net.
	Sure, why wouldn't you?
	Well, sure.
	I mean, if you can go somewhere and you're going to be taken care of by the state, you don't have to worry about your criminal past following you anywhere because there's no documentation to establish what your past even is.
	You're not going to have to work.
	You're not going to have to worry about anything.
	You're going to have housing provided for you.
	In many cases, the social services that are going to be provided for you are going to be better than the social services that are available to the natives in whatever country you've immigrated to.
	Why not?
	Why not?
	But it's up to these countries that are facing that influx to do something about it.
	And I just watched a video last night of the vice chancellor of Germany saying that Germans who speak negatively of the Islamic migration coming into their country should be jailed.
	They should be arrested, prosecuted, and jailed.
	And that they are gutter trash and that the refugees, the so-called refugees, all of whom, almost all of whom are men of military age, are better representations of what Germany is than these German citizens who have a problem with it.
	Those are his words.
	That's what Europe faces today.
	And that's why nationalism is on the rise everywhere you look, because people are looking at the leadership in their respective westernized nations, particularly throughout Western Europe, and seeing this sort of commentary on the part of their leadership.
	And the only response to that can be nationalism.
	There has to be a counterbalance.
	You can't have an entire nation in agreement with a guy who would say something like that.
	There has to be a counterbalance.
	And that's not to say that aspects of that counterbalance aren't in themselves an extreme, but they have to exist in order to balance the other extreme, which is something like what the vice chancellor of Germany has to say about his own citizens who would dare have a differing opinion on the flow of Islamic immigration into Germany.
	And they are still on the brink of importing hundreds of thousands of additional refugees.
	It is not slowing.
	There's no sign of it slowing.
	So what's going to happen?
	What can happen when you have an entire population by the millions flooding into a continent that they are not native to, that they have no cultural similarities to, that their cultural Identity is entirely incongruent with whose laws they don't respect, whose traditions they don't respect, whose customs they don't respect,
	whose economic systems they don't participate in, whose norms they don't assimilate to.
	What could possibly be the outcome of that other than utter and complete destruction and chaos?
	You're going to have an entirely segregated population within these Western European countries that's not going to assimilate.
	They're not going to have any motivation to assimilate because certain apparatuses have been established in order to make it painless for them if they choose not to assimilate.
	I mean, if you look at the, you go back to the era of so-called conspicuous consumption and Upton Sinclair's the jungle, the early 1900s with all of these immigrants flooding in through Ellis Island.
	What did they do when they got here?
	The very first thing they wanted to do was assimilate.
	They wanted to be American.
	They, in many cases, would change their last names, at least to some extent.
	I'm not saying that's what people have to do.
	I'm just illustrating the degree to which these people were so eager to assimilate into the American culture, which, by the way, does exist.
	There is an American culture, whether people want to admit that or not.
	But these people desperately wanted to assimilate into that because there was no safety net that would facilitate their refusal to assimilate.
	They either assimilated, began learning English, made themselves palatable to Americans who were already here and a part of that melting pot, or they couldn't get jobs.
	They couldn't survive.
	They had to assimilate.
	But when you create an entire system that ultimately provides people an escape hatch so that if they choose not to assimilate, it's going to be painless because they'll still have housing.
	They'll still have all the amenities one needs to get by, education and whatnot.
	And they will live within segregated communities of like-minded people who also have refused to assimilate.
	Meanwhile, these segregated blocks of people will begin having children who live within these segregated blocks.
	They will begin voting.
	They will begin running for political office.
	They will begin making your laws.
	So anyone who thinks the future of Western Europe is going to be rosy, if they can't get past this obsession with political correctness and this ridiculous fear everybody has of being called racist, that scarlet letter has really hamstrung the Western world.
	The scarlet letter of the word racism has just hamstrung the Western world to a degree that I think nothing else has over the last 60 years.
	And as a result, they are committing political, cultural, economic, security suicide in order to show everybody how virtuous they are.
	I love that term virtue signaling.
	They are virtue signaling.
	By allowing this influx of people who have no cultural congruity with the nations that they're moving into, they think that that allows them to demonstrate to the world how open they are, how inclusive they are, how non-racist they are, how virtuous they are.
	Virtue signaling.
	I love that term.
	I'd never heard that term, and it's probably something new that came about within the last couple of years.
	Probably sometime in 2015, I would imagine, when the Donald Trump candidacy began.
	That's probably about the time that term came to be.
	The entomology of that term.
	But it's so descriptive of what's, I mean, how many times in your life have you seen people who hold an opinion on a particular subject, not because it's an honest assessment of the subject, but because they want people to think something of them.
	It's an opinion that's designed to not reflect reality, not to reflect facts, not to reflect honest, objective observation and conclusions as a result of those observations.
	No, it is simply rooted in a desire for people to think something about them.
	There's a lot of that going around.
	And I think that in many ways, actually, the tide is turning.
	I think that's one of the reasons I love Donald Trump's tweets.
	I love the fact that he tweets.
	I love the fact that he offends people and he doesn't care that they are offended by it.
	When they scream about how offended they are, he doubles down on it.
	The Western world needs that.
	The Western world is a collection of, for lack of a better word at the moment, a big giant collection of feminized pussies who need something a little bit gruff.
	They need something a little bit abrasive, a little bit dangerous, something that's not quite so safe and, you know, partitioned for them.
	The Western world needs that.
	I think Donald Trump is exactly, again, we talk about counterbalances.
	Donald Trump is exactly the counterbalance that the world needs, the Western world needs, to people like the Vice Chancellor of Germany, people like Angela Merkel, people like, who's the guy that runs the EU?
	I don't know.
	Those counterbalances are needed.
	Now, you can find specific issues within those actual counterbalances themselves if you eliminate whatever it is that they are counterbalancing in terms of your analysis.
	You only look at that.
	Yeah, sure, you can find flaws in certain things.
	But the fact is the counterbalance needs to exist so that in the middle, we somehow find some semblance of what could be considered sanity.
	But that whole tangential thing I just went on there is a result of your question about the Moroccans immigrating to Europe.
	I again come back to the original point, which is I think that the average, decent Moroccan would tell you that that's why those people are immigrating, because they can't function in Moroccan society.
	They need to go somewhere that provides that safety net.
	I mean, take a look at Sweden.
	The police are having rocks thrown at them, and there's nothing they can do about it.
	There's nothing they can do about it.
	And I don't give a shit who agrees or disagrees with what I'm saying.
	It's not for anybody to agree or disagree with any more than me telling you the sky is blue is for you to agree or disagree with.
	There is incontrovertible information that constitutes fact, and these are facts.
	There are entire zones that the Swedish and French, I'm sure, but particularly the Swedish police dare not go.
	And they warn tourists, don't go to these areas.
	You'll have stones thrown at you.
	You'll be beaten up.
	And even if the police are there, you are still in danger.
	Because the Swedish people and by extension, I should say the Swedish government and by extension, vast swaths of the Swedish people have been so terribly guilted into believing that it is their obligation as decent human beings who want to signal their virtue.
	It is their obligation.
	to allow all of these people into their country, not to hold them accountable when they commit violent acts against native Swedes.
	I've seen news story after news story of events like, say, a man and a woman sitting at a pizzeria, and some Islamic immigrant walks up, asks them if that's pork on their pizza.
	If they dare say yes, he slaps them in the face and gets them on the ground and beats the shit out of them, throws a chair at them.
	They get assaulted.
	But I guarantee you, if the roles were reversed and that immigrant were assaulted by a native Swede, it would be Katie bar the door.
	It would be front page news.
	It would be the only thing the Swedes would hear about in whatever mainstream propaganda rag they read every day.
	But instead, when this stuff happens, the Swedish media, the corporate industrial mainstream media complex in Sweden, doesn't report these things.
	They're swept under the rug.
	They're not talked about.
	They're not discussed.
	I think it would be shocking the number of Swedes who really don't know what's happening in their country.
	Because maybe they're older and so they don't get their information from the internet the way a lot of people do these days, the way a lot of younger people do.
	There's a lot of stuff that if you know where to look, you can learn about.
	But older people just simply aren't going to do that.
	And if it's not presented to them by the mainstream media, they're just not going to be aware of it.
	I wonder how many people in Sweden don't even know what's happening in their own country.
	And that's why there's not been some sort of a broader revolt against it.
	But at some point, something's going to happen.
	Everything has a breaking point.
	And at some point, there's going to be an occurrence.
	There's going to be an event.
	I don't know what it's going to be, but there's going to be something that occurs and causes the populations of Europe to go batshit crazy.
	And we're going to have, I think, another war starting in Europe, just like the previous two.
	I think that this Islamic influx into Europe that's occurring right now is going to guarantee some sort of conflict that erupts initially in Europe over the course of the next 10 years.
	I don't know specifically how that's going to manifest itself.
	I've got no clue.
	But everything has a breaking point.
	And when you look at the native populations of Western Europe being assaulted in their own backyards, being machete attacked in their own front yards, being beaten down for wearing shorts on a bus, that has to reach a breaking point.
	That can't go unchecked in perpetuity.
	And so when it does reach a breaking point, I think it's going to be bloody.
	It's going to be violent.
	It's going to be shocking to a lot of people.
	I don't know how it's going to manifest itself, but Europe has a history of freaking the F out over certain things at a certain point.
	And when that occurs, the results are not good.
	So, Europe, way to go.
	Thanks for once again doing your best to ensure global stability.
	Whenever we want to make sure that the world doesn't go to war, we can always count on Europe.
	Thank you.
	So, MV.
	Go ahead, buddy.
	Okay.
	Did you hear what Representative Maxine Waters said the other day?
	What was that?
	She says that 700 billion people will lose their health care access.
	And the last time I checked, the U.S. population is about 350 million, and the world's population is about 7.3 billion people.
	She counted all those illegal aliens from Alpha Centauri and her stuff.
	I kind of pity her.
	I mean, she really, quite obviously, I think she's in her late 70s, I think.
	Yeah, please do.
	She's one of these people.
	It's a little difficult to just visually gauge her age, but there's clearly some level of dementia seeping and setting in there.
	there've been some other things that she's said over the course of the last six months or so that really force one to question exactly what it is that is going on with her.
	But I think, yeah, she's 78 years old.
	Yeah, I think that she is so overcome by hatred and rage, as a lot of people are right now, because what's happening politically in this country just was not supposed to happen.
	November 8th, 2016 was supposed to be a coronation.
	It was owed to her.
	And when you sit there for a year and a half telling the American people, oh, hi, I'm Nate Silver.
	Guess what?
	There's a 99.99% chance that Donald Trump will not win the election.
	You spend a year and a half or two years telling people that with just complete arrogance and utter and complete disregard for any deviation from what it is that you're suggesting is going to happen.
	After two years of that, and then what you say was going to happen doesn't happen, people do, I guess, perhaps go a little bit batshit.
	And I think that's what's happened.
	I look at I've never been a big CNN watcher, but I just catch clips of what happens on that network, and they are so guided by their own hatred and rage at both the presidency of Donald Trump and just the simple existence at this point of Donald Trump that it has caused them to become caricatures of what so-called conservatives,
	whatever that word even means anymore, have always said that those people are within the mainstream media.
	For years, I have felt like anytime I turn on Fox News, I just feel like I'm watching propaganda.
	But it was a different type of propaganda than what you would see with CNN.
	It was sort of a neocon propaganda.
	Like, I hated Megan Kelly.
	I hated that woman long before Donald Trump even considered running in 2016.
	I've hated her going back almost to her origins at Fox News because I never saw a neoconservative, pro-war, foreign adventure position that she didn't wrap her arms around and embrace.
	Every single missile that's ever been lobbed by the United States into a village of little brown people anywhere in the world, Megan Kelly has always gone out of her way to get into a Dotson and drive to wherever the perpetrator of that missile launch resides and blow them.
	I have never seen any sort of foreign military adventurism on the part of the United States that Megan Kelly just wasn't right up there cheerleading all the way.
	And actually, it was when Megan Kelly, I wonder if her involvement in Fox News was some sort of a CIA psyop to begin with.
	I mean, it was like from the moment she got there, it was like, here's this pretty face on Fox News that is designed to, whose inclusion on the channel is designed to do something other than just tell you what's happening.
	It seemed like there was a larger purpose to her inclusion on the network.
	They just, they did some sort of focus grouping or maybe some sort of neurological testing on humans to find out what type of face they would be most likely to believe, most prone to be swayed by.
	And this computer algorithm told them it was Megan Kelly's face that would be most likely to achieve their propagandistic purposes.
	And so that's how she got the job.
	I don't know.
	But just from the very beginning of her presence on Fox News, I've hated her.
	Not hate.
	I mean, I've got a life, but I've disliked her.
	And then the Donald Trump thing came along and that just confirmed everything I always thought about her.
	Because here was the only presidential candidate who said anything at all other than Rand Paul to suggest that maybe perhaps it's time we reel things in a little bit and stop lobbing missiles at every little village of brown people that we can think to lob them at all over the world, which is why some of this stuff that's going on with Syria right now is pretty disappointing as a Trump supporter.
	But at least we haven't gone to full-scale war.
	Okay, they launched 58 or 60 missiles at a shitty airport.
	Okay, at least we're not at full-scale war yet, but give, what's her name?
	Haley Barber.
	No, not Haley Barber.
	That's the governor of Ala, former governor of Alabama or Mississippi, but he's got a girly name, Haley Barber.
	Who's the woman who was the governor of either North or South Carolina and she wanted to be the ambassador to the UN?
	Oh, let me go Google that one.
	Yeah, and, oh, my God, she is such a neocon piece of shit.
	That's been another source of frustration.
	It's like, in order to be a member of the Trump administration, you have to have tweeted the term never Trump, hashtag never Trump at some point in your past.
	It's like that's the only.
	Her name is Nikki Haley.
	Nikki Haley.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	See, I was close.
	The synapse is almost connected.
	I see her tweeting out the other day, oh, if a chemical attack or any other sort of attack against the Syrian people occurs in Syria, just know now in advance right here as I'm telling you that it was Bashar al-Assad.
	That was effectively the content of her tweet the other day.
	So anything that happens in Syria, despite the number of renegade Islamic rebel groups running amok in that country, all with their different aims and objectives, whatever happens, just know it was Assad.
	So clearly she is a member of the good old boys club.
	Clearly, she's on board with whatever the objective is, and I don't understand why she was chosen for that job.
	I mean, she can't for a woman.
	I've never seen a woman have such an erection over the notion of potentially going to war with another little nation of helpless brown people who can't do much about anything.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello, this is Bomar.
	Hey, buddy.
	How's life?
	That's okay.
	How about you?
	Oh, kicking back.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Well, you might want to turn down your speakers there because...
	I did.
	Okay.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Are we on?
	Oh, we're on.
	Cool.
	I want to talk about Swedes.
	I am a Swede, 13 generations pure Swede.
	We get pissed.
	Now, these Arabs, we are normally very decent people.
	We give everybody, you know, the moment of truth.
	We give them every bit of, what would you call it, circumstance?
	But they're going to piss us off.
	Remember, we are the only people Nazi Germany did not invade.
	Is that because the Swedish population is armed?
	I can't remember.
	No, no.
	Well, we're armed, but.
	Hey, Damon, you're moving your microphone around there.
	It's making a lot of noise.
	You might want to.
	I'm holding a telephone.
	I'm out on landline.
	No, no, I'm talking to Damon.
	Go ahead, Walmart.
	I live in Columbia, Tennessee, which is 60 miles south of Nashville.
	I'm from Chicago.
	And I've been to Sweden back in 71.
	We get pissed.
	But we have.
	Hold on just a second, Bomar.
	Hold on just a second.
	Look, anybody in the chat room who's displeased by the subject matter, you're more than welcome to call into the show and change the subject.
	I don't really see what's accomplished by sitting in the chat room pissing and moaning about how much you're displeased by the subject matter.
	Listen to something else or call in and change the subject.
	Those are your options.
	No, no, no.
	Okay, we got a guy talking about Russia.
	No, no, no.
	I'm not talking.
	I'm not talking about Bomar.
	Philip I is the only one that ever beat Russia.
	Russia came in, did roughly the same thing that they did here, and invaded Sweden, pissed them off.
	We went over there and we kicked Russia's ass.
	And Russia has never come back.
	Germany did even start to go after Sweden.
	I just can't wait to Swedes really get pissed off.
	Is the Swedish population armed?
	I'm not really that familiar with the gun laws in Sweden.
	There are no gun laws.
	Everybody has one, and if they do, nobody cares.
	That guy, who's the guy that went to the summer camp and killed like 78 people?
	Was that in Sweden?
	That was Norway.
	Oh, okay.
	yeah that was norway that's see you got to remember sweden and when they had the vikings sweden were the navigators and the captains The warrior crew of the Vikings, those were the Norwegians.
	Now the Norge N-O-R-G-E, Those are, you know, those are fighters.
	They get pissed off real easy.
	Swedes have a very even temperament.
	But you really piss us off.
	Stand back.
	Well, the Swedes seem like very accommodating, very fair-minded, decent, pleasant people who want to be open and have an open society and give everybody the benefit of the doubt, accommodate everybody and everything.
	But it seems like it's really being used against them.
	Yes.
	Their own instincts.
	And then again, you've got to remember, half of Sweden lives in snow with very bitter temperatures.
	And we know what it's like for adverse conditions.
	But we don't die.
	We learn to adapt.
	People in the chat room, Beaumar, are saying that you sound like Truman Capote.
	Okay, cool.
	Has anybody ever told you that?
	No.
	There are two good movies about Truman Capote.
	I don't know which one I like better.
	The one with Philip Seymour Hoffman playing Capote.
	Or there's another.
	That's the one where he killed those guys, or he interviewed those guys that killed those people in Kansas.
	Yeah, he wrote a book about it called In Cold Blood.
	Right.
	I like that.
	Yeah, I'm not sure.
	There's another Capote movie where someone else, I can't remember his name, plays Truman Capote.
	I don't know which movie I like better.
	I'd recommend watching them both.
	Philip Seymour Hoffman, though, you can't go wrong.
	No, but Truman Capote, he was one of those kind of people.
	We got to give everybody the benefit of the doubt.
	Well, hanging out with, given the choice between hanging out with Truman Capote or Ted Nugent, I'm going with Capote.
	What about you?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I don't like people from Detroit.
	You know something?
	And I've said this before on these broadcasts, but in a former life, I used to drive a truck over the road all over the United States.
	The meanest, nastiest, angriest, just displeasing people I ever managed to be around were all in the upper Midwest, and the upper center of that was Detroit.
	I dreaded going there.
	It was just abysmal.
	Nicest people in the Bronx that I ever encountered.
	Imagine that.
	Well, I don't know about New York.
	I went there back in 79 to go on the Saturday Night Live to say my poem about getting high.
	They had just closed down.
	Wait a minute.
	What did you do?
	Read your poem right now.
	I wrote a poem about getting high.
	Can I say it?
	Well, hold on.
	Before you read the poem.
	No, no, I don't read.
	I'm reciting from memory.
	Okay, well, but before you recite it.
	I wrote it in 77.
	Okay, but you went to New York to read it where?
	To recite it where?
	To Saturday Night Live.
	Did you get on?
	No.
	Oh.
	I went to a Rockefeller place.
	I got up to the 13th floor, but they had just closed down for the, it was like June 1st or June 2nd of 79.
	They just closed down for the year.
	Well, I thought we had a bit of a celebrity in our Belgab midst.
	I always wonder if any of the celebrity is a lot of fun.
	I always wonder if any of the users on Belgab aregab who just aren't telling anybody that they're a celebrity.
	There has to be somebody who's famous using Belgab.
	I think math mandates it.
	Okay.
	I'm a celebrity.
	I'm getting moist already.
	I spent 13 years in college being a nuclear engineer, learning everything there is to know about hating nuclear engineering.
	Okay.
	Pop quiz.
	Think fast.
	Explain a nuclear bomb detonation.
	Okay, now, which type of bomb?
	Are you talking about the Hiroshima, which is basically you can take a flagpole and you, okay, okay, Fat Man.
	Fat Man is plutonium.
	Therefore, it's an implosion device.
	You have a plutonium center with barium on the outside.
	The explosion or the explosives are on a basically looks like a soccer ball around the barium.
	And then you implode the barium into the plutonium.
	It's like a gun shooting it into the center.
	No, no, that's the one that went to Hiroshima.
	That's little boy?
	Yeah, that one you can look at is like a flagpole.
	You take a flagpole, you put two sticks of dynamite.
	You know what a flagpole?
	You have that little ball on top.
	Okay, you put two sticks of dynamite in that flagpole ball on top, and then you put aluminum foil between.
	That'll suck the bathing alpha waves.
	And then you shoot the ignite the dynamite, takes a 235 or yeah, 235 uranium slug and shoots it into 238, which is the critical mass at the bottom.
	And you embed that in concrete.
	And once it gets a foot away from, then you get an uncontrolled nuclear reaction.
	In like 1947, this is something really interesting.
	And anybody who wants to get on YouTube.
	And by the way, I tried to trick you with the switch back to Little Boy.
	And you totally.
	So I think you really did do what you say you did.
	And this is something you might be able to talk about.
	I think it was in 1947.
	There was an experiment at Los Alamos that they used to do called Tickling the Dragon.
	Can you explain?
	I never heard of it.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, okay.
	Well, I was hoping you could talk about that.
	They had a sphere of, I guess, enriched uranium, and then it was surrounded by a hollow ball.
	That's 235.
	The ball on the outside or in the center?
	No, no.
	Enriched uranium is 235.
	238 is regular uranium.
	Okay, and then on top of that ball, they had a half sphere that was hollowed in the center to rest over the top of that 235, you said?
	And what they would do is, this is amazing that they were doing it like this.
	They would just use like a little, like a pin or whatever device that they had nearby.
	I mean, it was not a specialized tool or anything.
	And they would slowly lift this sphere up and the radiation would seep out from underneath the sphere.
	I don't recall what the sphere was made of to block the radiation from coming out.
	And there was an accident that the guy that was lifting it, and again, this experiment was called Tickling the Dragon.
	And when you learn about the accident that occurred, you understand why it was so appropriately named.
	The guy slipped.
	Something happened and distracted him.
	He slipped.
	The sphere effectively just came off, and the entire room was fully exposed to this enriched uranium for like six seconds.
	And the room glowed blue.
	The guy who was actually conducting the experiment died, I think, 11 days later.
	It was a big disaster.
	And when you look at how they were actually doing that, just how it was like if some dude in his back garage decided to experiment with enriched uranium, this is how he would do it.
	That's the way all bombs are made.
	People goof off.
	Hey, look at Madame Curie and her husband, Pierre.
	You know, they were finding radium in coal.
	And they were sitting in a little laboratory watching the stuff.
	And they ended up getting zapped.
	And they both died from it.
	They got Nobel Prizes, but if you don't know what you're doing, it's easy to get zapped.
	Well, they got zapped.
	And I think the guy who didn't die, a couple of the other guys who didn't immediately die, they did die premature deaths.
	No, they ran out the door and locked it.
	Well, actually, after this happened, the guy who was conducting the experiment, when he got the cover back over the 235, he yelled at everybody, stay where you are.
	Stay where you are.
	Don't move, because he wanted to know the exact positions they were standing in relative to the source of the radiation so that he could measure the amount of their exposure and know how much danger each of the men was in.
	So they actually drew little markers on the floor to mark where they were standing after the thing was brought back under control.
	Everything's a science experiment.
	Think of these men who sacrificed themselves so that the world could more effectively blow itself up.
	Thank you, gentlemen.
	Thank you, Dr. Oppenheimer.
	Oh, Oppenheimer.
	No, he never got close to any of that stuff.
	He came up with the designs, but he avoided going into the actual room.
	I have become death.
	Yeah, no, that was the, he stated that from with Shiva, the Indian six-armed god.
	I am death.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Yep.
	Okay, well, it was a certain...
	That's a deep subject.
	Yeah, well, and also, we've reached the two-hour mark, and I have little children who I guess I should pay some attention to.
	So it's been fun.
	You should be like Skitters.
	Stick him in a glass box in the wall.
	You can watch them.
	I could go, what's her face?
	No, be a Skinner.
	No, I'm thinking more Casey Anthony.
	Or what's her name?
	The mother who drugged her daughter, but she gave her to him.
	No, no.
	Casey Anthony is the one that took the kids, put them in the backseat of the car, and drove it into the water.
	No, that was Susan Smith.
	Oh, Susan Smith, I'm sorry.
	J.C. Anthony is the one that shot the guy.
	Nope, she's the one who...
	And Arizona.
	No, she's the one who said, told everybody her daughter was just simply missing.
	Oh, yeah.
	And then they ended up finding her daughter like two blocks away from her house in a little wooded area.
	And what everybody thinks happened was that she just wanted to go out and party and have a good time.
	And so she was giving her daughter some sort of drugs, I don't know, to basically put her to sleep so that she could go out and party and not have to worry about her kid burning the house down.
	God forbid you should find a babysitter.
	Yeah, it was one from Arizona, correct?
	No, it was in Florida.
	Oh, oh, Florida.
	I'm sorry.
	Yep.
	And she gave her kid too much, and this is the theory.
	And her kid died, and she threw the kid into the woods and went on about her life.
	It was like for 40 days or some crazy amount of time like that, Her parents or the parents of the father.
	I don't know.
	Somebody's like, Look, where is the kid?
	Where is your child?
	Oh, I don't know.
	She's at daycare.
	She just kept coming up with these excuses.
	It's like, look, lady, eventually, people are going to find out your kid doesn't exist anymore.
	I don't know how you think you're going to get around that fact.
	I mean, there are births.
	Oh, I am.
	It's all I do, sir.
	Thank you.
	I'm not a serum, Ted.
	Especially child murder.
	I just can't get enough.
	I really should be hosting Coast to Coast AM.
	I would fit right in.
	Well, take very good care of your children and remember, seal them in her magic in a mayonnaise jar.
	Oh, my.
	As Johnny Carrison would say, stick them in a mayonnaise jar and funking wild nose porch.
	I don't know if that's legal in Missouri, sir.
	I'll check into our state regulations and such.
	Have a good day.
	All right, thanks, buddy.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Thanks for calling.
	Bye.
	You're an interesting guy.
	And Damon, I'm glad you were here tonight, buddy.
	Always a pleasure.
	And I enjoyed the show.
	Yeah, it's always interesting to host with somebody who's never hosted before.
	So thanks for stepping up to the old plate, as it were.
	This is the Gabcast, a podcast about Bellgab.com.
	And you never know what the show is going to be until it actually happens.
	So thanks for putting up with my political rants.
	But, you know, I don't get to do this very often.
	So you just sort of have to get it off your chest at a certain point.
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