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20 July, 2015

20 July, 2015 ---------- On this episode... The return of Art Bell via his new show, Midnight in the Desert. The GabCast hosts rejoice. The audio is a little shaky for the first 5 minutes of this recording.

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	This is the Gabcast, a podcast about BellGab.com.
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	That's 623-242-2278.
	Now, shut up, sit down, and listen to the damn show.
	Hey, hey.
	This is Gabcast.
	Hi, everybody.
	It's a podcast about BellGab.com.
	We're happy you're joining us.
	Hi, Onan.
	How are you, buddy?
	What's your doing?
	It just couldn't be better.
	Jasmunda's here, too.
	Hey, Sugar.
	Hi.
	Hi, Sugar.
	Andy.
	How are you doing, Miss Vita Bridges?
	If you want to be on the show, we've got a phone number you can call.
	That number would be 623-242-CAST.
	It is 623-242-2278 to be on the show tonight.
	This podcast about BellGab.com.
	And yeah, last night was fun.
	The lead-in to things was enjoyable, and it was.
	I mean, as far as the GabCast is concerned, yeah, there were glitches there, but okay.
	But the overall mood of things was still jovial and full of anticipation and happiness and celebratory and couldn't have been better.
	But tonight really is it.
	Tonight, the official premiere of Art Bell's Midnight in the Desert.
	Yes, we heard art last night, and that really was great.
	But tonight is the show.
	This is where we have the Art Bell format that we're all used to with a guest and all the stuff, the callers calling in to ask questions of the guest and the set scheduled breaks and just all that whole art belly type thing we're going to have.
	And I couldn't be more excited.
	Are you guys a little juiced up?
	Yeah, as a matter of fact, I am.
	I'm not sure if I can listen to you.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's hard to believe.
	I don't see you ever getting excited about things.
	I thought tell me more.
	Well, let me pop another Xanax.
	Graham Hancock's one of my favorite.
	Is he really?
	Yeah, he really is.
	And then Crystal Gale's going to be there?
	Yeah, that's pretty nice.
	That's a nice bow tie.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, I'm really looking forward to this.
	Jasmunda, you were telling me before the show that you're not very excited.
	I don't know why.
	I don't know.
	I don't know what it takes with you, sir.
	I think I prefer the anticipation more than the actual main show.
	I think the lead-up, the two years, has been better than...
	No, of course not.
	I'm as excited, if not more, than anyone else.
	They're telling me in the chat room that our levels are really hot.
	Let me go ahead and bring that down.
	Bring them down.
	Okay, so I've brought that down considerably.
	Hopefully that is better.
	Yeah, they're saying the sound is shite.
	What FaceL tells me is that people are very critical of any broadcasting that he's done.
	Well, now we've got this delay, so we have to wait and see if what I just did fixed it or not.
	The thing that's confusing is I haven't changed a thing.
	I have not.
	I mean, I just fired this whole setup.
	When I came in here, I haven't changed anything.
	And now they're saying, well, someone said finally, but then the person after, okay, much better.
	Better, they're saying.
	Okay, good.
	Thank you, Jesus.
	You know, they could have just turned their computers and radios down.
	Oh, oh, that's good.
	Why do they expect us to do everything?
	That's not as much fun for the host.
	The host needs to turn knobs.
	The host needs to slide levers.
	That's what makes you feel like you're a radio host.
	See that?
	Turning knobs.
	That's where experience kicks in.
	I would have never known that.
	Thank you for teaching me.
	Someone's saying it's still fuzzy and hot.
	I don't know.
	I'm not actually tuned into the stream, so I can't know.
	You know what?
	In real time, live here on the air, let's actually tune in the stream and take a listen, shall we?
	They've just turned their computers and radios down.
	Oh, oh, oh, that sounds horrible.
	I wonder why that is.
	Oh, that sounded great.
	Well, we may have a false start here.
	I'm going to have to, let's see.
	We've got the record out level, and I could bring that down.
	Yes, yes, way better.
	Okay.
	I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen.
	What happened was last night we had a thunderstorm come through here, and it just pulsed the power off and on briefly.
	I swear it was literally, I was looking at a light bulb as it happened.
	I was like actually staring at the light bulb as it went, just really quick.
	It was like an eighth of a second.
	That's how I know exactly how long that was, because that's how long it took to trip that incandescent bulb off and on.
	And that was just enough time for all of my electronics to reset, for everything to get screwed up.
	All my routers got screwed up.
	All my machines at the office here, I lost VNC access to all of them.
	And who knows what could happen now?
	We currently are under, I think we're under a tornado watch.
	And when I left the house to come here to do this show tonight, the sky was all, you know that I'll repeat myself because some parts of this aren't going to be on the recording.
	But when you look up at the sky and it's got that greenish hue to it and everything just looks weird, that's how it looked when I left the house to come here today.
	And so I thought, oh boy.
	And the sirens were going off earlier and it was just nuts.
	So who knows what that's going to bring?
	I'll bet you this is the same thunderstorm system that was rolling over Art's house yesterday, causing all those problems with the internet connection over there.
	I tell you what, I got a tingly feeling of nervousness about that whole thing and what sort of an indicator that is as far as the future of the show.
	I mean, if we're going to depend on that microwave connection, I think we might be in a little bit of trouble going forward, don't you?
	But I did see a message from Art today where he mentioned something about looking at other alternatives, possibly a T1 line, which that gave me a lot of relief to know that that's even a possibility for them to get a T1 line or some sort of hardwired connection.
	Yeah, he did say that.
	A T1 line is only, I think it's only one megabit per second asynchronous both directions.
	But of course it is.
	But, oh, then shut up.
	But it's rock solid.
	I mean, that's because it's over the phone network.
	It's not something like your cable connection.
	It's just an extremely reliable, hard as a rock, solid internet connection.
	And while that's not a lot of bandwidth, it's plenty for Art to be able to send audio to Keith.
	And for Keith to be able to send audio to Art and, you know, to talk into his ear through their intercom system that they've got set up.
	And that would work wonderfully if Art can get that T1.
	If they can just get these internet connectivity issues worked out, then the future of this new show is just solid after everything I heard last night.
	I thought it was just amazing.
	What were your impressions, you guys?
	I thought it sounded great.
	From my end, it was perfect.
	I must admit, when it started clipping, I thought it was problems on my end.
	So, in a way, I was glad when we found out that it was a problem on Art's end, but then I was worried: well, is this going to happen all the time?
	So, I hope this gets worked out.
	It became pretty clear that the problem, or at least in my way of looking at things, it became pretty clear that the problem was the link between Art and Keith.
	Because I'm aware that Keith is the one that's playing those commercials that you hear in the breaks.
	And what would happen is you'd hear all the audio breaking up, you'd hear all the packets dropping, and then it would go to break, and the commercials would play perfectly.
	So, what that told me was that it's not the stream, it's not the hosting provider, the stream hosting provider.
	I think that was rock solid.
	And you'll know when you lose the stream because as soon as you lose it, you'll hear stream guys.
	You'll hear that whole thing start playing, and you have to listen to that.
	Stream guys.
	And I never heard that, so I never lost the stream.
	Go ahead, On it.
	I was asleep last night during the show, so I was trying to catch it on replay on my way home from work tonight.
	And I was able to listen to the first hour without too much problems, but then the second and third hours, I could play like 20 seconds, and they cut off.
	And I was like, oh, this doesn't look like a good option to me.
	So I don't know.
	You know, I don't know the tech stuff.
	Well, the fact that the commercials would play perfectly tells me that Keith's connection to the stream host was rock solid.
	It was just that connection between Art and Keith.
	And that means Art's internet connection.
	I mean, if you think about it, moving, you know, moving ones and zeros through the air just in your own home over a wireless router, sometimes that's referred to as a black art.
	And that's because Wi-Fi connectivity can be really tricky at times.
	So imagine having to move ones and zeros, packets of ones and zeros in order, mind you, from point A to point B through multiple hops over a 50 or 60 mile stretch over a mountain with a thunderstorm.
	Holy crap.
	Is there a lot that can go wrong in that circumstance?
	And that's exactly what we witnessed last night.
	So weather-wise, is this a phenomenon that would happen all the time?
	I don't know what the weather around Art's place is, but is this just a seasonal thing?
	Or can we expect intermittent outages throughout his run?
	Well, that would be a good call for somebody to make.
	Someone who's familiar with weather patterns in the high desert, I would like to know what we can expect.
	But I truly believe this is going to be a limited issue.
	They're going to come up with another solution.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello?
	Hello?
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Go ahead.
	Hello.
	Can you hear me?
	Let me make sure I didn't screw something up with this.
	I'm going to check the audio.
	No, well, okay, I've got them on the wrong sound device.
	I'm sorry.
	See what happens?
	Everything gets recoded.
	That power outage was really powerful.
	Okay, Caller, you're on now.
	I'm sorry.
	Go ahead.
	All right.
	It's B-Dub.
	Hey, B-Dub.
	What's up, buddy?
	I haven't heard you in a long time.
	What have you been up to?
	Oh, the usual working and listening to the Gabcast.
	I was hoping you would answer that with I be trolling, but you know, you didn't, right?
	No.
	So as I understand it, this microwave connection that Art's got now is isn't that basically like a line of sight thing?
	Like if something gets in the way or I mean, how can that be good?
	You can't have tree.
	It's water.
	Water is the big enemy of that type of.
	Yeah, if it rains, goodbye.
	Yeah, that's why you can't have trees between you because it's the water in the leaves, literally the water in the leaves and in the wood impedes that sort of RF.
	Yeah.
	So there was a company in Dayton that used to run a it had to be a similar technology up here to where I live, north of town, and it was line of sight.
	Yep.
	That went over like a Led Zeppelin.
	Yeah, I know.
	No one got it.
	Yep, I know.
	Yeah, it was just a giant failure.
	There was a similar company here about 15 years ago.
	I don't know what happened to them.
	Yeah.
	And I remember people talking about, oh, you're going to have all this great speed.
	It's going to be great.
	It was ridiculously expensive and it wasn't reliable at all.
	So I got to think that they're going to have to do something else.
	They're going to have to get a T1 or some kind of hardwired solution.
	Well, when Art mentioned a T1, first of all, I was thrilled to know that that's even a possibility where he is.
	But additionally, thrilled to know that they are looking at other options because really, that internet connection that Art's got there is the only chink in the armor that I can find in this rollout.
	Well, the T. Go ahead.
	Go ahead, go ahead, Onan.
	Will the T1 allow for his MCAA or DMC?
	Oh, the AAC compression.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	It's data.
	It's just data is data.
	Yeah, I keep going into it.
	It takes something more than, well, never mind.
	Well, that AAC stream is only like 48 kilobits per second.
	And that's going to be nothing to, you know, if you've got a one megabit per second connection, that's nothing.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Because he seemed to really be hooked into that.
	Well, think about it this way.
	If you've got a T1 line and it's one megabit per second, that means you've got 1,024 kilobits per second.
	And we're talking about 48 kilobits per second in order for that AAC stream.
	So that's nothing.
	So it won't work.
	We're fucked.
	B-dub.
	I like it when B-dub laughs.
	I don't know.
	There's something comforting about if B-dub laughs that makes me feel good.
	Well, B-dub is the expert.
	So B-dub, I wish you'd start being on the show again.
	I don't know.
	It'd be nice if you'd call in more or be on the show or hang out.
	All right, man.
	I'll have to talk to my people about my non-compete.
	We'll see what we can do.
	I've been talking to your people.
	They don't like you very much.
	They say they're not allowed to make eye contact with you.
	They can't speak to you or they're fired.
	So I don't know.
	That's the rumor.
	That's why I didn't like working with you, B-Dub.
	Can't look at you.
	That's in my writer.
	Yeah, I know.
	Okay, B-Dub.
	Thank you for calling.
	It's good talking to you, man.
	Have a good night.
	Yeah, you too.
	That's B-dub of BellGab.com fame.
	By the way, speaking of Bellgab.com, the forum was previously running on a dual-core Intel Xeon processor with four gigabytes of RAM.
	Now it is running on a quad-core Intel Xeon processor with eight gigabytes of RAM.
	It felt faster.
	Did it?
	When I got out of the car, I felt like I was pulled back in the seat a little more.
	So thank you.
	I'm loading the forum now.
	And yeah, it's respectable.
	What was it on last night?
	The old one, and it held up.
	It held up just fine last night.
	Very well, it held up.
	I thought there was, I think you broke a record of most people online at once.
	So that's a good thing I didn't see any Blue Gators.
	Not that you're with the Blue Gator people anymore.
	Yeah, that was a little bit disheartening to look there for two years and to know that the traffic record on Bellgab was set because people were showing up to find out why Art Bell quit his show or what happened.
	It's nice to know that that was surpassed by Art's return, and we no longer have to see November 4th, 2013 as the record for traffic on bellgab.com.
	Surpassed by a respectable amount.
	I think it was like 975, 975 people all at once, and now it's up to 1,058.
	Beat it by a nice, healthy, respectable chunk.
	Where do you think that number is going to go to?
	Or do you have any tonight?
	No, just over the course of the next six months.
	Well, I don't know.
	Who knows, man?
	I will say that.
	Usually, those records are done on milestone days.
	So you would expect tonight would, or last night or tonight are the days that it's going to be broken.
	Honestly, I'm going to be surprised if it's broken tonight.
	Although Art being on terrestrial radio stations tonight, that may make a difference.
	That's got to make a difference, right?
	I mean, that's.
	Let's hope he mentions Bellgab.com again.
	Well, so what if he doesn't, man?
	What he said last night was just far out.
	You know, he, he, I mean, at the top of his new show, he spent a good couple of minutes just talking about Bellgab and thanking the forum.
	That's just so awesome.
	I, I, I was, how gratifying is that for all of us?
	Yeah, to see that.
	Put a smile on my face.
	Oh, shut up.
	It did not.
	Well, did you get a smile?
	Did you get lucky last night, MV?
	I know your wife's heavily pregnant, but that's got to be.
	I don't think that would stop me.
	I took her to the bedroom and then I said, now you make me an egg sandwich woman and I want olive oil mayo.
	Nothing short of that will satisfy my madness.
	Yeah, I'm very, I'm very virile.
	Let's just say that.
	Oh, I know I can feel it through the mic.
	Yeah, if you want to.
	I think that it's the mic.
	If you want to be on the show tonight, the number to call 623-242 Casted is 623-242-2278.
	I was going to say something, and damn it, I forgot what it was.
	It was just before you mentioned, what were we talking about, Jesmond?
	Just before you mentioned me banging my wife, my woefully pregnant wife.
	The amount of people.
	I'm going to be kind of surprised if last night's record is broken tonight because last night was, I mean, that was the first time so many people have had the opportunity to hear Art Bell.
	They've all just been waiting and waiting and waiting with bated breath to hear the guy, and finally they can.
	And last night, I think, was kind of that milestone day.
	Although it's hard to know.
	I mean, today is the official launch of the official show.
	Last night being, as has been repeatedly stated, a test show and not on terrestrial radio.
	Who knows what's going to happen?
	But I was very impressed with the way the forum held up last night.
	I never got the impression that the system was being taxed.
	Even at the peak of traffic, I would reload the page.
	Everything was fine.
	It worked wonderfully.
	So I expect that to continue to be the case.
	But I still went ahead and upped the hardware specs on the server, running everything in the background.
	Because I just want to be sure.
	I don't want to take any chances.
	It doesn't cost that much more to go ahead and upgrade all of that stuff.
	So why the hell not?
	If you saw the AdSense revenue, you'd know why I don't mind.
	I'm poor, everybody.
	I mean, I'm poor.
	Keep donating.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	So anyway, that's what's going on with the server situation.
	I'm hoping that it's going to future-proof us quite a bit.
	I think our days of Blue Gators and all that crap are well over with.
	And I think SparkNode got their crap together too.
	You know, all the issues we had a few weeks ago where we were down to like three days.
	We can expect a check soon then.
	You, what I do in lieu of checks is I send out just a really nice, smiling picture of me with my hair properly parted.
	What do you think about that?
	There you go.
	I can take that to the store.
	Well, I have been told that that works just as well as currency in certain situations.
	I've been told, I don't know.
	Well, the elephant in the room, redacted.
	Yes.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's hard to know what to say about that.
	On the one hand, I'm thinking to myself, well, is there anything I'm not supposed to say?
	But I don't know what it is I would say that people haven't already publicly said.
	Redacted, our own redacted, our own beloved redacted from bellgab.com, also a host here on the Gabcast regularly.
	And there was a chance she was going to be here tonight, but seeing the circumstances that are that she's experiencing at the moment, she really didn't feel that it was a good time for her to be here.
	Quite frankly, she's pretty goddamn broken up.
	And as anyone would be, look, she's a regular person.
	She's not a celebrity.
	She's not used to turning on her computer and seeing people talking about her on Reddit, on Facebook, on Twitter, on Bellgab, on Godlike Productions, on whatever you want to name after that.
	There are additional on the tune-in chat.
	Let's see, what else can I add to that pile that would pretty much make any person, any regular person, want to vomit in their cereal?
	I mean, she's not used to that.
	Yeah.
	And the fact that a lot of it was just downright mean.
	I mean, I can understand someone saying, well, I didn't really want Art to have a sidekick.
	I didn't really like the way she sounded.
	I can understand those criticisms.
	But there were ass monkeys out there saying things like, you know, saying she was 400 pounds.
	Yeah.
	You know, she's a real gentle soul.
	And I think most of the people that listen to the cast or have watched your post know that.
	But a lot of the people that are coming in here and are posting in other places, they're saying some pretty mean shit.
	And quite honestly, you know, what do we expect?
	It's the internet.
	But goddamn, you know, if they're going to come into my house and give some shit, I'm going to give it back.
	And I don't care whether somebody thinks I'm tossing shit or not, you know, to hell with them.
	If somebody gives redacted, especially at this point, criticisms, I'm going to go after their asses.
	Because I'm the kind of man who would do that.
	I have to say, I understand, Lug.
	People have this image of what Art Bell's show should sound like.
	And that image is based on years and years of listening and now 15 or 20 years of retrospect.
	And so finally, Art Bell comes back after all this time.
	And there's a voice there that people aren't expecting.
	And I totally can understand why people would be put off by that.
	I totally can understand why people would want that eliminated.
	I totally can understand why people would find that shocking and totally beyond what it was they expected to hear that night during the show.
	But what I can't understand are people suggesting that Redacted herself did anything wrong.
	Because as I was listening to that show last night, I was thinking to myself, man, would I be holding up as well as she is right now?
	That was what I was thinking the whole time I was listening to her.
	And there were a couple of moments where it finally clicked with me where I said, you know what?
	I think this thing's going to work.
	I think this thing with Redacted on Arts, I think this is going to work.
	There were a couple of moments where I sort of had that, I guess you could call it, epiphany that sort of just the light bulb went off and I said, okay, I think this is going to be okay.
	And to see what happened after the show and to see how everything ultimately panned out, it was very surprising to me, particularly considering the buildup to the show and the buildup to the idea of Redacted being on the show.
	It was very surprising to me.
	And I didn't hear anything she did during that show where I said to myself, oh, there was, oh, let me tell you this.
	There was one moment where they were talking about Donald Trump and George Bush.
	And I was saying to myself when I heard that, and she got a little thrown by that conversation.
	She didn't seem quite prepared for it.
	And I said to myself, well, I think she might want to start paying a little more attention to the news based on what I just heard there.
	It sounded like she wasn't really ready to meet art halfway on that.
	And what it turned out, it turned out, I didn't even know this as I was listening to the show.
	With art's internet connectivity issues, Redacted lost her connection to art at that moment, wasn't able to hear anything that was being said.
	And then suddenly the connection comes back and it's Art saying, what do you think about that, Redacted?
	Now, let me ask anyone listening, myself included, how would you handle that situation?
	Would you be able to handle that?
	Would you come out looking as well as she did in that moment, considering those issues?
	I was on the air with Art last night and I could hear him fine and he asks me a question and I'm thrown back.
	I mean, you have to think of how nervous as well she would have been.
	She doesn't want to step on his toes.
	She doesn't want to talk out of turn.
	And until the chemistry builds up and they, you know, just us doing the show together, we can't see each other.
	There's no visual cues of when MV's going to stop talking or if Onin's going to jump in.
	We don't have any of that.
	And it takes a while.
	And even between the three of us, we haven't worked it out after doing shows for months.
	So you can add all that together.
	And she did a wonderful job.
	She did.
	I didn't hear anything she did where I said, oh, boy, she blew it.
	I never heard anything like that.
	I understand people not wanting a sidekick or someone else.
	I can understand that fully.
	And you have to understand, this isn't every night.
	It's not with him doing a guest.
	It's a once-in-a-while thing.
	Well, if you can't accept change, well.
	I think that was, well, I think that was part of the problem is it may not have been made as clear by art as it needed to be that this was not going to be an everynight thing.
	That's true.
	I don't know that the people listening to the show, and I have not been able to hear the entire show.
	I heard the first 20 minutes of the show last night uninterrupted.
	And then I was able to come back about 30 minutes before the technical issues started.
	And I heard the show until completion from that point.
	But in that time, I did not hear anything she said or did that made me say, okay, she's not up to snuff for this.
	Other than that Bush Trump moment and in retrospect, having spoken to her, that wasn't even her fault.
	I mean, and when she told me that, I immediately, my mind went, And I'm imagining myself in her position.
	And, okay, with what she just told me happened at that moment, how would I have fared in that moment with all of that going on?
	It was just the repeated technical issues.
	I don't feel like it was a fair shake for her because of the technical side of things.
	I don't feel like it was a fair shake for her because I don't think the audience was made to understand that, hey, this is not an everynight thing.
	Don't hate me just yet.
	Right.
	That's a good point.
	I do, my thoughts on it as I was listening today was that I think the whole situation might have been a bit rushed, and it might have been nice to give a little bit of explanation to this you already said, but if the audience would have had some time to warm up.
	But, you know, hindsight is 2020.
	And I think for everything I heard, she did a great job.
	You know, I hate to keep saying it because, you know, at some point, it's just like it's just repetitive, but she did a great job.
	So.
	Well, let's take a call.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hey, guys, how's it going?
	Hey, man.
	How are you doing?
	You're the guy who knows Madman Markham, aren't you?
	Yeah.
	Hey, I just wanted to say, you know, I think Redacta did a great job.
	It just kind of queues back to the point I was trying to make a couple weeks ago on the show.
	You know, the entire landscape of our show has changed.
	So you got to throw in this wild card of the internet.
	And that was something that wasn't around back then.
	And I think that most people that are listening to it today are expecting that experience they had 10, 15 years ago.
	But now you've got to throw into the mix all these people that don't know who he is and never heard him before.
	And you're going to get a whole convoluted opinion from both sides of this thing.
	And at the end of the day, does it really matter?
	Hell no.
	She done a great job.
	I think she pulled it off wonderfully.
	And, you know, apples to apples.
	I don't know anybody else would have done a better job, to be honest with you.
	You know what?
	I'm not the most modest person in the world.
	And I'm going to tell you right now, I don't know if I would have done as well as she did last night.
	Well, that's exactly.
	That's why my point is.
	I've heard guys that are on the air today that couldn't do as well a job as she done last night.
	So that's something, you know.
	I mean, that's, but you know, it's the internet.
	Like, like you said, it's you're going to get all your idiots and your ass hats and your opinionated morons that don't have anything better to do that raise hell and bitch and moan about shit.
	But fuck them.
	Ignore it.
	Go on, dude.
	I mean, that's just what you got to do.
	I know that's easier said than done for not being a feminist or picking on women here.
	But I know, I mean, I've been married for, God knows, almost 30 years.
	I know how my wife is.
	Wow, you're kind of old.
	I didn't think you were that old, sir.
	I'm 45.
	Wow.
	But, you know what I'm saying?
	Wait, wait, wait, what?
	You're 45 and you've been married for 30 years.
	What the hell's going on there?
	27 this year.
	You must be from Arking Show.
	Missouri, man.
	I'm right across the bus.
	Holy crap, bro.
	Well, close enough, sir.
	But, you know what I'm saying?
	It's just, you got to have, and I'm not telling Redact to have her business, but you got to have thick skin.
	And I know that's a difficult thing for some people to do.
	That's easier said than done.
	I know that.
	I know that.
	It is.
	But I think she done a great job.
	And, you know, hey, kudos.
	I couldn't have done a better job.
	Thanks, man.
	Thanks for calling.
	We appreciate it.
	Yeah, thanks a lot.
	Yeah, I mean, I have terrestrial radio experience.
	I worked for radio for seven years.
	I'm used to being on a microphone and being heard by a lot of people.
	And even before that, I was I messed around with ham radio and upper and lower single sideband.
	I'm used to talking into a microphone and being heard by people.
	And that even saying that, I'm imagining myself in her position last night, and I just don't know that I would have sounded as calm, cool, collected, and coherent as she did.
	And I really don't know what I can say to her to make her feel better about things than that.
	I wish there was some button I could push and she's going to feel okay.
	And Redacted, I know you're listening.
	You got to stop reading what people are saying online.
	It's impossible.
	It's impossible.
	You know that as well as I do.
	To shut yourself off from that, dear.
	Not trying to.
	I'm very good at that, actually.
	I swear to God, I am very good at if I know that people are saying things I just that I'm not going to like and that's going to raise my blood pressure.
	I am very good at just ignoring it and walking away and not reading it.
	Good for you.
	Thank you.
	I wanted to be congratulated.
	No, no, I'm serious about that because that's a skill.
	It's a skill.
	Yes, it is.
	They used to write poems about me at Godlike Productions.
	I used to be one of the whipping boys over there because there were so many people at Godlike Productions that hated me because they didn't like the way I ran Belgab or whatever.
	I remember some of the early posts and some of the history from other places.
	And yeah, there were some people that really disliked you.
	And at first, when I was posting it, I was like, wow, is this guy sane or what?
	Do I need to be worried?
	I really, seriously, for like a month, I was like, okay, let's just really kind of be smooth about this.
	And then I started to realize you were just like everybody else.
	And probably one of the, well, no, I won't say it because you can't handle compliments.
	So, well, screw it.
	You're probably one of the more level-headed people and fair-minded people that's on this forum.
	There are times that really pisses me off about you.
	Well, I've just received a compliment that let's go.
	That's a good note to go.
	Everybody have a good idea.
	Thank you.
	That's a wonderful way to lock out, I think.
	It's time to wrap up the show, ladies and gents.
	Something made me feel uncomfortable.
	I'm out of here.
	Thank you.
	That's nice of you to say.
	Thank you.
	I wasn't fishing for that compliment.
	Thank you.
	That's very nice.
	It was sincere.
	Now make me a sandwich.
	Damn it.
	With that fine mayo that's made out of olive oil.
	If you want to call into the show tonight, and by the way, Jasmunda, I think you just switched to a different microphone.
	It sounds like.
	No, I muted and then unmuted.
	And for some reason, when you unmute, it sounds like a jet engine.
	Yeah, well, what happens is Skype automatically starts raising your because Skype goes, dah, I can't hear you, boss.
	I'm going to bring up your levels until I can hear you.
	And then you mic, and it just keeps rising, rising, rising, rising, rising.
	And then you unmute your mic and it's, we got a jet airplane.
	We're landing on a runway 73.
	It's horrible.
	That actually happened to me when I called into art last night.
	When I first got on, I was like, oh no, hold on.
	I got called out.
	I think I was the first person to get called out for talking too loudly.
	Yeah, for some reason, I don't know what it is about your setup, but it does over-modulate you pretty frequently.
	And I think what you need to do is turn off that automatic volume adjusting on your microphone, pick a level, and just set it and forget it.
	That's what you need to do.
	I used to trust that auto-volume leveling for people like you who didn't have a mic processor.
	But anymore, it's just, it's gotten too aggressive.
	It's going crazy and causing the kind of crap that you just heard.
	So anyway, I'm sorry I'm drinking more Jackson Cokes.
	Yes, I'm an alcoholic.
	If you want to be on the show, the number to call 623-242-CAST.
	It is 623-242-2270.
	The only reason I mentioned that is because I keep just incessantly burping.
	And I have to have some explanation for the halting manner in which I'm speaking.
	I'm sorry.
	There's a mute button, sir.
	Well, so getting back to the Redacted thing, I really, I understand why people wouldn't want to hear another voice on, but I just want everyone to view things in the correct perspective that it's not Redacted's fault.
	First of all, the opportunity that she took was the opportunity that any number of people would have said, fuck it, and taken.
	Any number of people would have taken that opportunity if Art Bell came to you and said, hey, there's something about you that I like.
	I see something in you.
	I would like you to sit in on my show from time to time.
	What do you think?
	How many?
	There's not one person that would say no to that.
	And they can't, they're a liar if they say.
	Well, there are people who would say no, but the reason they would say no in most cases would be fear, which I think is another feather in Redacted's cap that she's got the cast nets to do what it was that she did last night.
	Do you know how many, do you know how worried she was about the blowback that would happen?
	Before she went on, she was worried about all that blowback and how people were going to react.
	So you can imagine how she feels right now seeing everything come to fruition.
	Exactly what she feared happening happened.
	Okay, let me put a positive on this.
	All right.
	The one thing about this is, is that this is some really good experience.
	And yeah, it's not fun to go through it.
	But the next time she's on the Art Bell show and this kind of stuff comes along, she's going to go, peh, piss on you.
	So I think this is a learning thing.
	Say that again.
	I wasn't listening.
	I'm sorry.
	It's all right.
	I don't remember what I was saying.
	No, seriously, I was zoned out a little bit.
	I was thinking about things.
	Go ahead.
	Say that again.
	Well, that as painful as this is, it's a learning experience.
	And this is going to give her enough experience.
	So when it happens again, and if she goes back on the show again, it's going to happen again.
	Maybe not to this level, but it'll happen.
	There'll be people that'll be overly critical and mean about it.
	And she'll have already had the scars and learned how to deal with it a little better, and it won't be as strong.
	So, you know, I hate that she's going through it, but it will make her a tougher person because as Paladin would say, pain is weakness leaving the body.
	And although I disagree with him, I think in this case, it's right.
	I'm just going to tell you guys, I don't think I'm betraying any confidences here.
	I'm just going to say we haven't heard the last of Redacted.
	There's going to be a happy ending at the end of all of this.
	There's going to be a pot of gold at the end of that rainbow.
	So it's not all bad news.
	Good things are coming, and I couldn't be happier about that.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Thank you for calling.
	Hi.
	Hey, it's Agent Orange.
	How's it going, fellas?
	Hey, buddy.
	Hey-oh.
	I haven't talked to you in God forever.
	It's been a long time.
	What have you been up to?
	Oh, yeah, this and that.
	It's been really busy lately.
	Listen, I was just calling up to say to send some love out to Redacted there.
	I thought she did a really great job on the show.
	And also, one point that nobody's really brought up lately is that I think Art needs to have a co-host this time around because of all the possible technical problems that could go on.
	If he's cut off from Skype or something goes wrong, his guest is disconnected and he can't take any callers.
	It's almost like he needs somebody that can be connected to him to have a little bit of conversation in the meantime.
	I think if it's not going to be redacted, it ought to be Keith Rowland.
	That's a good idea.
	Keith was quite funny when he chimed in a few times.
	I mean, Keith knows how to talk.
	He's a talker.
	I've heard him make appearances on shows.
	And I think everybody is qualified to sit and ham it up with art for a little while as anybody else.
	The only problem is that while he's talking to art, that would be interfering with him fixing whatever problem it is that's forcing him to talk to art at that moment.
	There are a few people.
	There are a few people.
	I'm sorry to interrupt.
	You should be, sir.
	See, that's why I can't be Art Bell's co-host.
	There are a few people I can think of that could do a really good job.
	But I thought that Redacted was great.
	And she's getting a misproportional amount of heat on her.
	And, you know, it's the type of thing that it takes guts to do that, to be able to stand up and do something like that because you can tell it was important.
	It's a significant thing.
	And it was great to hear.
	I thought she had a great voice for the show.
	And I sort of look forward to hearing more interactions between her and Art.
	I hope that she comes back for the open line shows.
	It's good to have another point of view on these things as well.
	I don't know specifically what the future brings.
	She may or may not.
	I just don't know.
	I just don't know what the future is going to bring in that regard.
	But look, I mean, whether it could have been anyone, anyone, man, woman, child, dog, brought onto that show, people would have been pissed off.
	And so that's just what everybody needs to keep in perspective, that it is not something specific at all that Redacted did or didn't do.
	And look, life is about taking risks.
	Redacted took a very big risk.
	It was a calculated risk.
	But that's what life is about.
	If anything good is going to happen to you, often it's the result of some kind of risk that you took at the nucleus of all of it.
	And if you don't take any risks in life, if you don't put yourself out there ever, if you don't ever stick your neck out, you're going to live a very mundane, uneventful, bland life that's forgotten once you've been dead for 10 minutes.
	No disrespect to dishwashers, but you'll be a dishwasher all your life.
	Well, we do need clean dishes.
	Some people have to dig those ditches.
	You know what I mean?
	That's true.
	That's true.
	But that's what she did in her place.
	She took a risk, and she'll eternally have my respect for that.
	I'm not sure I would have had the balls to do what it was that she did, especially knowing what the blowback was going to be.
	None of this was a surprise to me, at least.
	I mean, I knew that there's going to be a lot of negativity out there resulting from this.
	I just thought that it would have been, I mean, I guess I'm kind of surprised at how quickly Art reacted to the negativity.
	Yeah, me too.
	But, you know, I can barely figure out why I put on the pair of socks I did today.
	So trying to figure out why somebody does something is kind of beyond me.
	Well, I think rather than publicly say, okay, you don't want anyone else.
	Okay, we're not going to do that.
	Sorry, guys.
	Instead of publicly say that, maybe he should have just publicly said nothing and moved on and then find some way to insert her into the show at a future date that isn't so jarring to people.
	That sort of like, you know how Linda Moulton Howe's brought on.
	Nobody says, who is this hole?
	Who is this radio hole?
	Nobody says that because the way her appearances are packaged and presented, it doesn't feel like she's an interloper.
	It doesn't feel like she's an interferer.
	And I feel like there should have been some sort of, I don't know, I'm just very surprised how everything worked out.
	Well, that's a really good point.
	That, you know, there really wasn't much of an introduction for, and so it wasn't really clear what Redacted's role was.
	The thing that kind of threw me was, as you said, was the quick response on Facebook.
	And then I think he even posted in the forum that there was going to be that he was pulling back.
	I understand making a change, but at the same time, and I understand Art's probably under a lot of pressure, too, with the show itself, the technical issues that he suffered through during the show, the Redacted blowback, all of that just coming together, culminating in some sort of a blow-up of, okay, I'm sorry, guys, sorry, sorry, sorry.
	I guess I can see that, and it's easy to sit here from the outside looking in saying, well, here's how this should have been handled, and here's how that should have been handled.
	But even so, I was kind of surprised.
	But as I said, we haven't heard the last of Redacted.
	There's no doubt about that.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hold on, caller.
	Onin, what were you going to say?
	Not that I want to pick on anybody, but listening to Linda Moulton Howe and listening to Redacted, I'd rather hear Redacted any day of the week.
	And I'm not trying to say Linda Molten Howe doesn't bring something to the game because she does.
	But if we're talking about talent in radio, voice is a big part of it.
	And Redacted has that in spades.
	And she has a digital recorder rather than a tape recorder.
	So she's already ahead of the game.
	Okay, caller.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Sorry, I'm calling in again.
	This is B. Dubb.
	You disgusting son of a bitch.
	I just can't get it off of you guys.
	No, we love you, too.
	Excellent.
	What's up, buddy?
	Yeah, so, yeah, people are.
	Yeah, I think I expected some negativity, but I didn't expect the scale of just the connection fit that so many people seem to be having.
	And it's out of control.
	It's good to see the support that's coming in tonight.
	Are you crying?
	No, no, I'm just a little bit more.
	Misty-eyed?
	No, I'm not Misty-Eyed.
	I'm just flummy.
	But I was going to say, I wonder how many of these people who are throwing a fit on Art's Facebook profile are paying customers and not just some jackass that was listening to the stream.
	That's a good question.
	Because it's not like the old days where, you know, Art was on the radio and he had to just keep his advertisers happy.
	He's got paying subscribers.
	And are the paying subscribers to people who are flipping their lids on social media or are those people who are just shut-ins waiting for dominoes to show up at their dinner?
	I don't know, but I think it's a good question.
	There was someone on Bellgap today that said that if art kept redacted on, they would cancel their subscription.
	Who said that?
	There was someone like that.
	It was Chandler's Dad.
	That's the one.
	Really?
	And I just thought.
	That's so low rent on multiple levels.
	Just like the mechanism of that kind of a threat, just from a customer service fielding customer complaints perspective to a human being existing on this planet perspective to a Bellgab user perspective to just numerous facets I find that just that just gave me swamp ass hearing you say that.
	I think I think it might have been remember there was a fellow on the forums who kind of was the impetus for the nut huggers.
	Remember that guy?
	He was the guy that had the picture of he and his kid together.
	Yeah, I think this is the same guy, just with a really well, I could be wrong.
	It's happening.
	But yeah, I think it's the same guy.
	Belgap has its top handwriting analysis people working on it.
	You see this guy types in Helvetica?
	And he also typed in Helvetica over here.
	So clearly it's that dude.
	Clearly.
	Okay, B-Dub.
	Thanks for calling by.
	Bye, guys.
	Have a good night.
	See ya.
	I must be in a mood tonight.
	I'm not just hanging up on people.
	What is that?
	I'm actually giving people proper goodbyes like, okay, thanks for calling your mom.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Love you too.
	Bye-bye.
	And how are you?
	It's really been nice talking with you.
	Did you like that egg salad?
	I thought it was good, too.
	All right.
	Bye-bye.
	Number to call 623-242-CAST.
	It is 623-242-2278.
	If you'd like to be on the Gabcast tonight, this is a podcast about bellgab.com.
	So to put a bow tie in the redacted thing, I think that she did everything as well as any human being in her position could conceivably do.
	I think that anyone who did what she did would have received exactly the same level and type of blowback that she received.
	I don't think she's to be blamed for that.
	And listen, I have not met a more modest, unassuming, just inoffensive person on Belgab.
	And to see some of the things people are saying about her, I already hate people.
	I already have no faith in humanity, but holy shit, is this not helping?
	It's just not helping.
	But then again, I can't expect everyone to know what a nice person Redacted is.
	That's not what the critiques of her are based on.
	So let's be realistic.
	Not everyone who's upset about the situation is going to say to themselves, but she's a very nice person.
	I get that.
	Okay.
	I'm trying to be objective here.
	It's harder to be objective when you know someone.
	At least I know Redacted as well as I can know someone through the internet.
	I mean, I don't even know what she looks like.
	I've definitely never hugged her or caressed her ear or pushed her hair behind her ear or anything like that.
	I've never done anything like that of the sort.
	So I can't really see.
	I'll be back in a few minutes.
	I feel really honored now that I know that you've brushed my hair behind my ear.
	And you spoke to me in that saucy Australian accent as I did so.
	And that was the payoff.
	That's what got me over the edge.
	That's what wrapped things up for me, if you will.
	You can extract from that euphemism what you like.
	Onen, go ahead.
	I have film.
	You think anyone wants to see that with the wealth of film videos of questionable nature that are available on the internet today?
	I can't imagine what it is you've recorded.
	Does anybody want to?
	I have a one-word response to you, Cassio.
	Someone in the chat room is typing nigger really did someone on the show say nigger?
	I don't remember anyone using the word nigger.
	Did anybody did three times in your show?
	You did Okay, well when I heard Art's show start last night and I heard that the the the chase the chase we've got to talk about that when I heard that song being used as the intro to that show Holy crap, did I just I had to step into another room and let's just say I had to adjust because wow, that was so unexpected.
	I don't know that that was ever publicly asserted that that was going to be the song.
	No, it definitely wasn't.
	It was what I hoped and prayed was going to be, though.
	I remember we talked and talked in the Art Belt.
	There was even a poll at one time.
	What should Art Bell use as the opening theme song for the show?
	And I'm pretty sure the chase won out, did it not, Jasmunda?
	I can't remember.
	I wasn't sure by a long shot.
	But wasn't that the biggest F you to Dave Norrie and the premier Evil Empire?
	I'm sorry to say that again.
	I was reading the chat room.
	I'm sorry.
	And I'm drunk.
	Wasn't that the biggest fuck you to Dave Norrie?
	Oh, yeah, it couldn't have been better.
	It was just sort of, hey, guess what?
	You know who I am?
	Yeah, suck it, bitches.
	This is Art Bell.
	That's the song that I chose.
	And hey, you know, really, when George came in and took the reins over, I think this is sort of an indirect assertion that, hey, maybe he should have picked a song that fit him as an individual more.
	Maybe he should have made the show his own.
	That's what he gets for not doing so.
	Because Art's back.
	You can understand for continuity purposes and, hey, who's this new guy?
	Is this the same show that had to use that song?
	I was just so jazzed up when I heard that.
	I couldn't believe it.
	And then to hear from the high desert and the great American Southwest.
	Holy, I just, it was too much.
	And as I'm listening to this last night, I swear to you, I'm not exaggerating.
	I was getting a little bit misty-eyed.
	I was turning into a douchey little girl listening to this show.
	I'm such a fangirl listening to this show last night.
	And I'm surrounded by people in my home who have no idea what it is, the greatness that I'm listening to at that moment.
	They have no idea of this whole universe.
	Art Bell, Bellgab.com, listening to the news show Midnight in the Desert.
	They have no idea of the greatness that it is that's surrounding them, that's permeating the air at that moment.
	But I just couldn't believe it.
	I was so happy.
	I felt like I had been transported back to 1996.
	And that's when I knew this show is going to work.
	This is it.
	This whole thing's got an energy to it that it just did not have back in September 2013.
	This is it.
	It is going to happen this time.
	It's going to work.
	The only, as I said earlier, the only chink in the armor being that internet connection that Art Bell is contending with.
	That microwave hop over the mountain.
	But as I said, Art mentioned today that a T1 line may be in the works.
	And boy, was that music to my ears.
	It alleviated a lot of worry on my part.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hey, it's Colcheck.
	Hey, buddy.
	What's up?
	How'd you go?
	I'm about, I'd say I'm an 8.9.
	What are you?
	We're going to go with 5.
	Why?
	Well, that's failing in most schools.
	Why?
	I'm not drunk enough, but I'm working on it.
	We have our best people situation.
	Well, that sounds like a chemical dependency issue, sir.
	You don't need to alter your state of mind to have a good time.
	Didn't every librarian you've ever had tell you that?
	They did.
	It didn't stick.
	Okay.
	Well, we'll try and reiterate that for you here tonight.
	Go ahead.
	What can we do for you?
	What brings you to the show?
	So I want to say two things.
	I thought the show, even with the connectivity issues, it was just so great last night hearing art again.
	I thought Redacted was lovely and poised and very, it was kind of a nice breath of fresh air to hear the contrast to go the back and forth between the two of them.
	And I also thought she got, I belly laughed when Netscape called in and she asked if he was a time traveler.
	I thought that was fantastic.
	Yeah.
	But the other thing I wanted to talk about was, and I posted this in the forum, a little disappointed in the podcast just being three links like slapped on to a web page that you have to download individually and then circumvent and load onto your device.
	You want to have this automatically sucked into your podcatcher.
	Yes, I do.
	Yeah.
	That's typically how these things go.
	And I'll gladly pay, obviously, to hear art.
	And I'll keep doing that.
	But it'd be really nice if those could just, you know, touch and go.
	That's going to happen.
	There's no way with the thousands of time traveler subscribers that they've got.
	And I read today someone posted on the forum.
	Anybody can say anything.
	Okay, I get that.
	But somebody posted on the forum that they have over 5,000 subscribers to the new show, Time Travelers.
	And that is a shit ton of people all paying $5 per month, especially for a show that hasn't even started yet.
	But that's neither here nor there.
	not the point.
	My point is...
	Hold on.
	Thank God for the cough button here.
	My point is, that's a lot of people.
	And in 2015, people expect to be able to have this content delivered automatically to whatever device it is they're using.
	And so that I'm certain, I am entirely certain that is not lost on Keith Rowland.
	And whatever it is that needs to happen in order to generate an RSS feed, that's what we really need is an RSS feed that you can subscribe to in your podcatcher.
	You subscribe to that RSS feed.
	When your podcatcher connects to it, it asks you for a password.
	That's when you put in your account info for your time traveler account, and off you go.
	It's connected.
	It downloads the show and you're good to go.
	That is going to happen, I'm sure.
	I'm not saying I've talked to anybody and confirmed this.
	I just know it's going to happen.
	There's no way they're going to leave this matzah ball hanging out there.
	You know what?
	Okay, well, you know what?
	You guys just go on home, okay?
	It's been real.
	Have a good night.
	You know what?
	I didn't like the, when you go to download the show, it's broken up into hours.
	And you know what?
	I think that might be kind of a throwback to the old coast-to-coast way of doing things.
	I don't like it because I like to have my files all in one.
	You know what I was thinking about doing is breaking the Gabcast up into an individual file each time a different person speaks.
	What do you think?
	Opinions?
	Sounds like that's a winning idea.
	Okay.
	See, right there, you said that's a winning idea.
	I said, okay, there's two files.
	You just put them in a playlist.
	What's everyone bitching about?
	I don't get it.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Go ahead.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Sir, you have to wait until we say you're on the air, sir.
	It's me again.
	Oh, oh, you're the guy who we just talked to.
	I'm sorry.
	Go ahead.
	I didn't mean to hang up.
	I thought you were done.
	I'm sorry.
	No, I wanted to add that I was looking at a podcast, another podcast I subscribed to, and there's, I guess, a service called the Nana Cats, and it manages everything for you.
	And I'm sure Keith is looking into this, but yeah, the three separate files thing got to go.
	I'm sure that this is a complex operation.
	You've got the billing side of things.
	You've got the content delivery side of things.
	You've got the aesthetics of the website.
	You've got the, I mean, there's just so much that's in place to make all of this work.
	Did you have anything else you wanted to add, by the way?
	That's it.
	Thank you.
	Okay, I just wanted to be sure I could hang up on you.
	Thank you.
	Bye.
	There's just so much in place that has to be there to make all of this work that we all have to be understanding of the fact that not everything right out of the gate here is going to be exactly as we want it to be, exactly as it needs to be, exactly as we envisioned it being.
	Not everything is going to be that way.
	They're going to work this stuff out as time goes.
	And a lot of this stuff you don't realize is a problem until you actually get into the ongoing operation of all of this and you hear feedback from people or you yourself are using your own platform and you see, I go through that with Bellgab all the time.
	I see things like, holy crap, I can't believe I was leaving that the way it was.
	I can't believe that for all these years I didn't change this or do something different and I'll finally change it.
	And that's the kind of thing that I'm sure Keith is going through.
	But in his case, it's just such a voluminous amount of stuff that all needs to be right that it's a lot to get to.
	But I'm certain that all of these little kinks are going to be worked out.
	I have no doubt of that.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Oh.
	Hi.
	First time caller, first time listener.
	Well, who is this?
	Hi, I'm from 35 Miles West of Chicago.
	See, that would put you in what, like Joliet or something?
	Joliet's south of Chicago, isn't it?
	A little north.
	A little north.
	Okay.
	Well, I'm sure I've been where you are.
	It's a horrible part of the country.
	I hate where you're from.
	Oh, a bunch of apathy around here.
	You know what?
	You're used to calling talk shows and having the host say, I love it where you are.
	No, I hate where you're from, sir.
	I'm sorry.
	It's strange when you listen to Art Bell and people of his knowledge and his experience in life and you look down the street and you see these people approaching you that they're just oblivious to everything.
	And it's kind of weird.
	It's kind of weird to have an understanding about what's happening and what's going on in the world these days.
	Well, this planet was perfect when we got it, you know, and then something strange happened and defied everybody.
	And it's about time we straightened that whole mess out.
	What was the strange thing that you think happened?
	Oh, I think these other beings came here and tried to interlope with mankind and choose their will over somebody else's wills.
	You know, a lot of people believe that.
	A lot of people really do believe that aliens came here and started banging one another or started banging human beings or started banging rhinos or whatever it is that aliens started banging.
	They were banging somebody and we all started mining gold together with happy faces and these big fat gold wrapper chains on our necks.
	I quite went that way.
	Okay.
	Anyways, gentlemen, I'm enjoying your show.
	Well, I'm looking forward to listening to Art Bell.
	Are you a Bellgab user?
	No, I'm not.
	I've seen a lot of his videos.
	You dirty son of a bitch.
	How dare you call this show without.
	You know how weird that is to have someone calling this show without them being a Bellgab user?
	Great, though, because it means that there's some level of penetration occurring here.
	That's crazy.
	I'm so sorry.
	Well, you're less worthy as a human being, sir.
	I'm a descendant of the great sculptor Daniel Chester French.
	Well, please go sign up at bellgab.com.
	You sound reasonable enough, so I guess we'd like to hear what you have to say over there.
	Yeah, looking forward to gaining some knowledge.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you, sir.
	I have an awesome story.
	Well, do you want to tell it now?
	Oh, no, no, no, no.
	Thank you, gentlemen.
	Well, I was going to hang up on you anyway, sir.
	Sorry.
	Thank you, sir.
	Thank you.
	Have a good night.
	Thank you.
	That's really nice to hear from people that are just not regulars, not just inherently connected to this whole thing.
	There's just people.
	It's nice to hear from.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hey, Chefist.
	Hi, Chefist.
	How are you?
	Smooches.
	Kiss me.
	I love you.
	Yeah, we support Red.
	But I wanted to call in.
	I don't.
	I think she's an ignorant slut.
	Go ahead.
	I want to get everyone's view on sterile, feral children.
	You're talking about the caller.
	You're talking about the caller last night to Art's show who thought that when they were saying feral human beings, they were talking about sterile human beings.
	So this guy starts talking about people ejaculating into their own bladder.
	I'm sitting there next to my two-year-old, and I'm looking at Jasmine and I'm saying, Jasmine, this is the world you're about to enter.
	Now, I want to tell you, not everyone out there is normal like me.
	My picture is even more disturbing because they were saying children.
	And so he said sterile children.
	I think kids who are seven years old and not making babies, I think that's a little strange.
	That's just me.
	This is Roseanne.
	Rosanna Dana.
	Never mind.
	I was insulted that.
	The quality of the title was amazing.
	Jasmunda, what did you say?
	I said I was insulted that Lee Cola couldn't understand by accent.
	I tried to speak as clear as possible.
	That caller is exactly the type of guy who doesn't get through on screened phones.
	And that's why open lines are the way to go.
	I'm sorry, I'm having all these Jack and Coke burps.
	I don't normally speak this way.
	It's really affecting me.
	But that guy is the kind of guy who does not get through on the phone when you have a call screener sitting there pushing buttons on people.
	Some fat man with a boa cap who hates himself and hasn't had sex since the Reagan administration.
	That is not going to make interesting radio.
	Chefist, your opinion.
	Well, yeah, they call Rush in the morning.
	But I think what I was really impressed was the quality of callers.
	I don't know if you caught that one caller.
	I think he was some type of TV executive or used to be in television.
	That was a really good call with Art and the conversation Art had with him.
	And I think, you know, you just, with the open lines, you just get more volume of people in.
	And the show last night just really epitomized the old vibe, in my opinion.
	Yeah, I really concur.
	As I was listening to the show last night, the chase coming in, Armel, and from the highest.
	I just couldn't believe it.
	It just really, that's why I got a little misty-eyed.
	It sort of sucked me back in time.
	This guy is 70 years old.
	He's been out of the business for that long.
	Fuck.
	I'm blown away by that.
	For him to come back in and just move me the way he did, and to sound, it just sounded like I was transported back to 1996 last night.
	I could not believe it.
	This show is going to rock.
	This show, everything is the way it needs to be.
	Karmically, just the energy that's surrounding all of this, it feels very good.
	I remember in the run-up to SiriusXM, it was like, I've got some reservations.
	You know what?
	I've got a little bit of IBS, but okay, it's Art Bell.
	We're okay.
	Here we go.
	But this time, man, everything feels juicy.
	Everything feels the way it ought to feel.
	And I really felt that last night, and I couldn't be happier.
	I mean, we are just getting everything we wanted, and I couldn't be more pleased.
	Yeah, I agree 100%.
	And the bumper music was spot on.
	Exactly.
	The bumper music was perfect.
	Yeah, he really knows what to play at what time.
	I mean, after the first break, going into the first break was right back where we started from.
	And that's, I mean, how can you pick a more perfect song?
	Lyrics, music.
	I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen.
	Art Bell fan one in the chat room says I need to tone it down.
	So I'm sorry about that.
	Okay.
	Take it outside.
	Sorry.
	I thought I was hosting a talk show.
	Okay, Chefist.
	Is that all you had to say?
	All right.
	Okay, that's it, guys.
	Hey, great show.
	Fantastic.
	Go Art.
	Okay, Chefist.
	I'm trying to talk and not move my lips at the same time.
	I really want to.
	I'm not even moving.
	I'm going to slide down.
	I guess it's NPR.
	I'm an NPR fan.
	I'm going to slide this pot down that you're on right now, and I hope nobody sees me doing that because I just don't want to be too animated.
	Hi, this is the Gabcast.
	And if you want to be on our show tonight, our little talk show, the number is going to be 623242Cast.
	That's 62324227.
	There's a phone number you're supposed to call.
	I don't know.
	It's call it.
	We want you on the air.
	So, guys, what's your favorite color?
	Sorry, we're talking to us.
	I don't recognize this NV.
	You people in the chat room, blow me.
	Sick of you stupid people.
	Anyway, if you want to be on the show, 623242Cast.
	No, I'm not sick of you, stupid people.
	Just some of you.
	There is a percentage.
	There's always chaff that goes along with the weight.
	We have to accept that.
	I understand.
	And Art Bell fan one probably is just, I'll probably explode on Art.
	You miserable son.
	And the next day it's going to be, I'm going to be receiving private messages.
	Dude, I was just joking.
	I really appreciate everything you've done.
	And the website is great.
	And I'm so happy about Art Bell.
	And Bell Gab is wonderful.
	Please don't ban me.
	Thank you, Incent.
	I'll certainly be receiving something along those lines tomorrow.
	Yeah, if you want to call the show, 623-242Cast-623-242-2278.
	So Art's going to be back on the air in about 30 minutes from now.
	Graham Hancock is going to be the guest.
	I'm guessing he's going to be talking about DMT.
	He's going to be talking about pyramids.
	He's going to be talking about the Sphinx.
	He's going to be talking.
	Does he talk about Cydonia or is that just a Richard C. Hoagland thing?
	I can't recall.
	I think that's just a Richard Cole.
	Isn't that thing?
	The whole Cydonia thing.
	Is that a little played out?
	I mean, I've looked at so many images of Cydonia and it's just like, what?
	Come on, let's stop it.
	Yeah.
	But I reminisce because when that first story first was hitting, when Hoagland was really just priming the pump with that story, I was like so captivated and so, man, wouldn't it be so awesome if there was some truly true monument on Mars?
	I bought into it for like a year.
	Did you remember?
	Do you remember seeing the face on Mars for the first time?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like those pictures from the Viking or in the 70s?
	Like you really, there was just something about that that you just wanted it to be real, like you said, Onan.
	Yeah, I think I've told this story before, but when the book, when Hoagland's book first came out, I was asked to do a review of it for some paper.
	And, God, it was a horrid thing to read.
	And it wasn't even a bound book.
	It was one of those not spiral plastic bound, but those plastic ring binders.
	Yes.
	And I was like, oh, this is foreshadowing.
	This is going to be a real shit book.
	And it was.
	Hey, wasn't that hilarious last night when people were calling in on Skype and Art Bells telling everybody what their user ID is?
	Would you like him to go back to sort of an East of the Rockies, West of the Rockies, international line, U.S. line or something, rather than say who the person is or where they are?
	Well, that's just, if I do want that, that's just me being a fanboy.
	And I mean, nothing wrong with being a fanboy.
	Just wanting things to be exactly as they were in 1996.
	Yeah, that'd be pretty cool, but I didn't notice the absence, I will say, I did not notice the absence of a West of the Rockies, East of the Rockies first time call.
	I didn't notice that that wasn't there until you just mentioned it.
	So I guess it's not a big deal.
	Not necessarily that, but rather than reveal the name of the person, just say on the international line, I've got, you know, go ahead.
	Or, you know, on the U.S. Skype line or over the phones we go and let the caller say, hi, this is Andy from Australia or I'm MV from Buttfuck, Missouri.
	Don't make fun of my hometown, buddy.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello, hey.
	Who's this?
	Hi, hi, hi.
	This is Jackstar.
	Hey, Jackstar.
	Hey, Jack.
	How are you, buddy?
	I'm doing great.
	I hope you all are too.
	I'm doing pretty good, actually.
	Thank you.
	Oh, are you?
	Are you?
	Oh, congratulations on your upcoming thing.
	It's all great.
	My upcoming thing?
	I've got a starring role in Cat.
	I'm appearing in Cats here in Cape Girarda, Missouri.
	I don't know which upcoming thing you're more excited about, so I didn't want to imply that your second child is going to be more alluring than the huge paycheck you'll get from all these ad impressions.
	You know, thank you for that, by the way.
	And I've said before, I'm never sure how to react when someone congratulates me because it's, I view having kids as like a bodily function.
	And it really is.
	Ultimately, it's a bodily function.
	And it's not like winning the ND500 or something.
	Or even that, you're just pushing on a gas pedal.
	So even that I don't respect.
	Is this a concept that you came up with before or after you heard it from Tom Likas?
	Is it really?
	Did he say that?
	He has often compared birthing a child to a bodily function.
	Well, it is a bodily function.
	I don't think he's some sort of a sage for coming up with that if he did.
	Well, I think the manner of reducing it to such.
	I have never listened to a Tom Likas broadcast in my life.
	He's never been available on any affiliate that was near me.
	All I know is he's a fat guy who couldn't get laid in a whorehouse, but he pretends that women bang him all the time.
	Sounds like you're reading his diary.
	Well, I don't know.
	Anyway, what brings you to the show?
	I just felt compelled to call in.
	I just had a chance.
	My neighbor, oh my God, actually, I'm kind of hot under the collar.
	My neighbor is leaving town for like a week, and he had the unmitigated gall to come over here and go yap, yap, yap, yap about his life and his dreams and his desires and his trip and how he's leaving and stuff.
	And all I want to do is listen to the show.
	Where's he going?
	God, I don't even remember.
	Well, if you're going to come to the show with this, you need to be able to answer a couple questions.
	I want to know where this guy is going.
	I'm not pissed anymore.
	I'm so fucking happy Arbella's back.
	What do you mean?
	Aren't you?
	You know, I have common ground.
	Onin.
	Finally, something I agree with Jackstar on.
	I do.
	It'd have it one day.
	Yeah, Jackstar, I'm glad you're back on the forum.
	You've seemed so...
	What happened to you?
	You used to be such a crazy son of a bitch.
	Now you seem so normal and agreeable.
	I don't know what happened to you.
	Look to your own perception, man.
	I haven't changed.
	Oh, bullshit.
	You haven't changed.
	Yeah, there's a change.
	There is a certain change.
	I know what the penalty is for exceeding the limits of my liberty.
	And I don't care to experience that again because apparently the next place I have to go is GLP or whatever the fuck the place is called.
	Oh, such language.
	Well, okay.
	Fair enough.
	I raised the new paradigm of not cursing anymore.
	Although I suppose, you know, this isn't the show.
	It doesn't matter.
	Okay, well, good.
	Good.
	Because I like the Jackstar that's on Belgab right now.
	I hope that that Jack Star stays on Bill Gebb.
	Because Onan will have to ban you again if otherwise I...
	Yeah, I'm the guy who does that.
	Are you really?
	Oh, that explains a lot.
	For the last four years, sir.
	I've only been your last two years.
	Well, Jackstar, we're happy that you called the show tonight.
	We appreciate your current incarnation on Belgab.
	It seems to be working out really well, and we are thankful that you are just bringing the persona that you're bringing on Belgab at the moment.
	It's working out really well.
	If you want to be on the show, the number to call 623-242Cast-623-242-2278.
	I don't know why it is he called to tell us about his neighbor, but he couldn't tell us anything about what his neighbor had to say.
	That would have been slightly interesting, it seems to me.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	I'll ban you again if otherwise I. I'm hearing my own douchey voice.
	Now I don't.
	You're on the air?
	Hi.
	Hello?
	I think you're having some audio difficulties.
	And this is.
	Hold on.
	Sorry.
	So what do you think of that?
	That was improper use of the cough button.
	That was the person who just tried to call me was one of the hosts.
	If you go on Belgab, you'll see there's a thread called End of Days Radio.
	And the person who just tried to call me is one of the hosts of that show.
	And I'll bet you he's calling from his microphone and he's got a mixer and he's got a bunch of complicated bullcrap just like I have here.
	Nothing's working right.
	So he couldn't get through.
	I guarantee you that's what just happened.
	What were you going to say, Jasmunda?
	I was going to say, what do you think of, wait, I'm hearing myself echoing back at myself.
	It's gone now.
	Yes, every time you've got a caller, that's happening.
	Anyway, what do you think of Art saying, turn down your device as opposed to the turn down your radio?
	I guess he can't say turn down your radio, but it's going to take a bit of getting used to.
	That was, I'm sure Art had to spend some time prior to the initial broadcast of this show.
	He had to spend some time thinking about what he's going to say to people.
	I mean, that was sort of a hallmark of the Art Bell show.
	Turn down your radio, sir.
	That was just something.
	I mean, there were radio promos like your local affiliate.
	Would happen is the network, Premier Radio, would send down all these promos during the commercial breaks so that if for whatever reason the board operator at your local affiliate fell asleep and failed to go to local commercials, or maybe your automation system wasn't working correctly, because they would send down these sub-audible tones to tell your station's local automation system when to break away from the satellite feed and start playing local spots at the bottom and the top of the hour.
	But during those local spots, the network would continue to feed commercial content down in case something failed.
	Unless maybe the bored-out operator was out back behind the station smoking a fat spliff, or the automation system just wasn't working correctly.
	And one of those spots was a commercial where for 60 seconds, Art Bell is just telling people to turn down their radio.
	That's all it was for 60 seconds, just listening to Art Bell repeatedly telling caller after caller after caller, turn down your radio, sir.
	Turn down your radio.
	Your radio needs to be extinguished.
	For 60 seconds, this went on.
	So that, to me, is illustrative of just what a hallmark the whole turn down your radio thing was where the Art Bell show is concerned.
	So I'm sure a lot of thought had to go into what it is he's going to say to people when they call him up and the show is being pumped through their speakers in the background.
	And I guess turn down your device is as legit as anything else anybody could come up with.
	I don't know really what I would say to people.
	Maybe I would say turn down your speakers or turn down your device.
	That works as well as anything I can come up with.
	It just doesn't roll off the tongue the same way turn down your radio does.
	No, you're right, it doesn't.
	It's true.
	I will not be listening to this show now that you mentioned this.
	Did you ever notice that when hey, will someone kick this Art Bell fan one out of the chat?
	I am so tired of this dumb son of a bitch.
	Kick that piece of shit out of the chat room.
	Please.
	Whoever has the ability to do it, please do it.
	I'm getting sick of reading this douchebag's comments.
	I don't give a fuck.
	Get rid of this person.
	You got a pocket full of fucks.
	God damn it.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Am I?
	You are.
	Hi.
	How are you?
	I'm good.
	How are you?
	I'm lovely.
	Thank you for asking.
	What brings you to the show tonight?
	I'm wondering why you're not in Ohio.
	Well, I've been to Ohio.
	I don't like your speed limits.
	I don't like your politicians.
	I don't like John Kasich.
	I don't like the shape of your state.
	I don't like the fact that your state has more major metropolitan cities than any other state in the contiguous U.S. 48.
	You want to go on?
	Well, besides that, why aren't you in Ohio?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I don't like states that start with vowels.
	How about that?
	Hi, how are you?
	What brings you to the show?
	Anyways, I haven't talked to you before.
	Well, we really like callers that we've not spoken to before, so thank you for calling.
	Do I get a prize?
	Well, you'll get a prize, but let's just say when you open the package, make sure you're wearing rubber gloves.
	It could be hazardous.
	Oh, I got plenty of rubber gloves here.
	As a Bellgab user, you should.
	Splash guards don't hurt either.
	Definitely.
	My handle is NIN.
	Oh, NIN.
	Well, I would say you are Bellgab's most celebrated gay man.
	Am I?
	I think when I think of gay men on Bellgab, I think of NIN.
	If I have a gay issue that I want input on, that I want perspective on, I go to NIN.
	If I'm looking for the latest gay porn, I go to NIN.
	All of these things can be addressed.
	Say that again.
	You've never texted me.
	Well.
	You've never texted me.
	Why is that?
	I send pics.
	What do you want?
	Do I need to include words?
	You want sweet nothings?
	I'm sending the pics.
	What do you need?
	Anyway.
	Oh, just a picture of you.
	Well, that's not exactly going to get things done for you.
	I'll put it that way.
	Oh, come on.
	I was within like the first 50 people on your site.
	Were you?
	Look it up.
	Yeah.
	So basically what you're saying is that you are in some way tangentially responsible for the growth of this vast empire.
	Yep.
	Well, I will give you credit.
	You are actually one of the first, very first few people to have signed up on Bellgab.
	I think you signed up.
	I'm not looking at your user profile at the moment, by the way.
	I'm just off the top of my head.
	I think you signed up in late April or May of 2008.
	Sounds about right.
	Yeah.
	That was time flies, doesn't it?
	Look where we've come from there.
	Yeah, it's only done, what, eight years, something like that?
	Almost.
	Almost.
	April of 2008.
	Bellgab was started from the sleeper birth of a truck stop in Pennsylvania.
	Oh, see, I figured he was in Ohio at that point.
	The sleeper birth of a truck stop.
	That doesn't make sense.
	A sleeper birth in a truck stop would make more sense.
	It implies that a truck stop has one sleeper birth and that everyone's just flooding through there to sleep in it.
	And that sounds really disgusting to me, actually.
	I think that sounds rather untenable.
	So anyway, what brings you to the show?
	What brings you to the show tonight, sir?
	Are you excited about tonight?
	I'm very excited about tonight.
	I'm also a little bit anxious because I am hoping that the internet connectivity issues that Art suffered through last night are not going to plague the show tonight.
	Why didn't you call in last night?
	I figured you would have been on there first.
	No.
	You know what?
	I'll be honest with you.
	I don't think Art Bell likes me.
	Oh, I'm sure he likes you.
	I don't think so.
	Because he does not respond to my private messages.
	I will tell you this.
	I sent him what I've got this copy of The Art of Talk.
	It's an audio cassette package hanging on my wall here at the office.
	And I wanted to send the insert sleeve to him, have it signed.
	You can't send him anything.
	Why?
	Because he doesn't have a P.O. box anymore.
	Oh, he does have it.
	Well, surely he wouldn't trust.
	Surely he wouldn't think I'm going to drive out.
	I offered to mow his lawn.
	He wouldn't.
	Didn't he get rid of his nonsense?
	What did you say, NIN?
	Didn't he get rid of his P.O. box after that terrorist nonsense?
	I think that's a reason to have a P.O. box.
	Well, you're the only one craft cut to him, so.
	White Crow says it's because I swear.
	Well, look, this is not the art box.
	I'm not trying to be liked by anybody.
	I'm just doing what I do.
	I don't think, I don't know.
	I don't know if that's the reason.
	I don't know.
	But anyway, I tried sending him a PM.
	I sent him two PM.
	So I wanted to send this insert to him from this audio cassette version of The Art of Talk and have it signed and sent back.
	And then I wanted to give it to a Bellgab user in the whole set, the cassettes, everything, signed by Art Bell.
	I wanted to give it to a Bellgab user in some sort of contest.
	I wasn't really sure of the mechanics of what the contest would actually be.
	The first gay man on Gate on Belgab.
	That sounds reasonable enough.
	Let's go with that.
	There we go.
	And I think I sent him two or three PMs asking if I could mail this to him and I would take care of all the return postage.
	I didn't get any response.
	I sent him, I think, two emails asking the same, didn't get any response.
	So clearly, I am not on the front burner when it comes to spending time responding to messages.
	Well, didn't he have problems getting a message from Dave?
	I don't know.
	Didn't Dave send him an email and he claims he never got it?
	And Dave says he sent it the whole thing.
	I don't know.
	White Crow says, by the way, that was a joke, MV.
	Hang with me.
	I'll get you that lawnmowing gig.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I think that if he doesn't like me, if my instincts are correct, it probably has something to do with all the mean stuff I said about Keith Rowland.
	It probably has something to do with all of the turmoil that happened as a result of, like, when Keith Rowland accidentally had that, where he accidentally tweeted something nasty about me.
	And then Art Bell asked him to stop saying mean stuff to people in this whole Art Bell type universe.
	And then Keith Rowland said, you know what?
	I've had enough of this.
	I quit.
	And that was something I did not really enjoy being in the middle of.
	I think Art's just too busy.
	I don't know.
	I think he doesn't.
	Look, I'm not the most likable guy in the world.
	And that's something I know about myself and I'm comfortable acknowledging about myself.
	I've never positioned myself as someone who is out there trying to be liked by everybody.
	But at the same time, I'm not saying that I don't care.
	You like me or you don't like me.
	You go to hell.
	I don't feel that way either.
	I mean, it's nice when people like you, but I've never put myself out there as someone who needed to be liked.
	And well, everybody likes Ron Belgab.
	Oh, bullshit.
	You really.
	Oh, we all love you.
	That's that's uh by the way, you don't sound gay.
	I would never guess you're gay, sir.
	I know.
	I get that a lot.
	Jasmine.
	This is like the most offensive thing you can say to a gay guy.
	You don't sound gay, sir.
	Kudos to you for that.
	No, it's not offensive.
	Well, I think it is, sir.
	I'm offended by my own commentary, and I will be flogging myself tonight.
	The funny thing is, you sound gay at times.
	That hurts.
	Now tell me I'm not right.
	That I'm questioning things about myself at this moment as you say that.
	Anybody?
	You get that funny voice going, man.
	But do you know how much poon I've gotten over the years because of that?
	Let's be honest.
	Oh, I'm sure you have.
	Well, and I am.
	I'm really happy that you're around, and I'm really thankful.
	And I really mean this: the people that started using Belgab so many years ago and are still there, I'm very thankful for that.
	I really appreciate it.
	That's just so awesome that some of you people who were there all of those years ago still are there, still remain there.
	That's so awesome.
	Thank you.
	If you want to be on the show, the number to call is 623-242Cast.
	It is 623-242-2278.
	If you'd like to be on the show tonight as we approach the final 10 minutes prior to the airing of the official start of Art Bell's Dark Matter.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Yeah, it's me again.
	Oh, hi.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, I hung up on you.
	I thought the call was done.
	I thought we had reached completion.
	Apparently, not.
	No, of course we haven't.
	I hang up when I'm done.
	Well, what is it you want to talk about?
	I feel like at this point, there's something we've not gotten to.
	Oh, no, I just thought my phone dropped out.
	I wasn't sure.
	So, what you're saying is you're just an annoying talk radio show caller at this point.
	Sir?
	Yeah, I'm just joking with you.
	All the radio talks.
	No, I'm serious.
	Is there something more you wanted to say?
	No, I was wanting to know when Bellgab first started.
	It wasn't called Bell Gab at the time.
	No, was it?
	In the beginning, it was called George.
	In the beginning, it was GeorgeNorrySucks.com.
	Oh, yeah, but I thought you had something else.
	And then it was CoastGab.com.
	No, no, before that.
	I thought there was something you had.
	Before that, it was lycos.com.
	What do you know?
	No?
	Well, those are all the domain names.
	I don't know what more to say about it.
	Those are all legit.
	I thought you closed the forum down for a while.
	I did.
	And the summer of 2009, I closed it down for about three months, and I just had enough of it.
	What was the name of it before you closed it down?
	When I closed it, it was GeorgeNorrySucks.com.
	When I brought it back, it was CoastGab.com.
	Because I thought that calling it CoastGab.com would attract a more manageable, manageable, listen to that Jack and Coke talking.
	I thought it would attract a more manageable group of people.
	I thought it would be less caustic than calling the forum GeorgeNorrySucks.com, something that.
	Oh, that's right.
	Yeah, what did you call your radio show when you were playing art?
	It was Michael Van Deeven's radio train wreck.
	The App Bell stream.
	Okay.
	What I did was I used to.
	Years ago, I used to run a pirate Art Bell stream, and I didn't do it because I had some sort of altruistic intent.
	I need to make sure the world hears Art Bell.
	There was a component of that, but I really just wanted to, I realized that no one out there was streaming Art Bell.
	There was no one out there playing Art Bell.
	That's how I found you.
	That's how a lot of people found Bell Gab.
	You want to know what the best thing about that was?
	Yes.
	For me?
	What's that?
	That's when you would break away from the stream and you would do your train wreck show.
	And people would call and complain.
	Oh, they can't hear Art Bell.
	Oh, they hated that so much.
	I loved it.
	Did you?
	That was awesome.
	That was the only reason I, I mean, I love Art Bell, obviously.
	I'm a fan, but the real reason I was streaming Art Bell was so that I would have a prepackaged audience there to hear my bull crap when I came in to do my stupid show because otherwise, I'm a nobody.
	Nobody knows who I am.
	And so if I just came in there and fired up.
	Well, yes, but because of these mechanisms I put into place.
	That's why.
	And if I hadn't done that, if I had not been doing that, you would have no, we would not be speaking right now.
	I can assure you, Bell Gab wouldn't exist.
	None of this would have happened.
	Well, you told me you were going to send me your archive at one point.
	We were going to work on it.
	Sir, you shouldn't be publicly saying that.
	Oh, my God.
	You know what you need to do?
	You need to download the ultimate Art Bell Torrent.
	I already did that.
	Well, then there's nothing more I can send you.
	What do you think?
	I'm going to send you family photos of Art Bell?
	What do you want that you don't have?
	Yeah.
	That was really, if you want files past that, you got to talk to Jazz.
	Oh, so he's the one who has all the files now.
	He's a collector, sir.
	I did download the Art Bell Torrent.
	like 60 some odd gigabytes of art bell and there's you know i you know i did not listen to when art bell left siri sirius xm in november 2013 I did not listen to any Art Bell from that moment until probably March or April of this year.
	Can you believe that?
	Is it really that long?
	I was so depressed over what happened.
	I was just so disenchanted.
	I was just so mentally exhausted by the whole thing and defeated.
	I just, to listen to Art's voice, to listen to that show, just made me long for what could have been, what should have been, what almost was.
	Say that again?
	I listen to EVPs all the time.
	His EVP shows.
	Those are among my favorite.
	The GIS are by far among my favorite Art Bell guests of all time.
	Except for Chung.
	Wasn't it such a disappointment?
	Wasn't it such a disappointment to hear Jimmy Chunga and that whole GIS, the Ghost Investigator Society rollout during Dark Matter XM?
	Wasn't that disappointing?
	Yes.
	That was depressing.
	Yes.
	it was like paying money to go see the beatles or someone and seeing a cover band it was just uh It was depressing not only because of what was happening at that moment, it was also depressing because of the implications it brought about regarding what we heard previously.
	Yeah.
	It sort of called into question the credibility of what it was that we heard from the GIS previously.
	That's probably what bothered me the most about it.
	Well, they're supposed to be back on what?
	16th of August?
	I think this was in October of 2013 that the Jimmy Chunga was going to be aware of the show.
	Oh, no, the new one.
	The new show.
	They're supposed to be back on.
	Oh, yes, and it's going to be Brendan.
	It's going to be Brendan and Barbara.
	And I tell you what, I have a Pentium 2 Windows 95 machine that I'm going to fire up and listen to that show on.
	I just can't wait.
	I'm so happy.
	I'm so happy.
	I don't care if Art Bell likes me or not.
	I love him.
	I'm not the most likable person in the world.
	I know that.
	But I love Art Bell, and I don't care if he wants to sign my Art of Talk insert or not, or respond to my private messages.
	I love Art Bell.
	And I kind of like, you know what?
	Fuck it.
	I kind of like being out of the loop, frankly.
	But we got four minutes to a show, so I'm going to get off the phone.
	okay buddy i uh thank you for calling and thank you for i i really mean this i really mean this Thank you for being there for all those years.
	Thank you.
	No problem.
	Even though you're gay.
	Keep it up.
	Keep it up.
	Okay.
	Nice talking to you.
	Thank you.
	That's NIN.
	We've got a couple minutes until the top of the hour.
	We're going to bust this thing.
	I should say we're going to shut this thing down.
	At the top of the hour, which is just about two minutes away.
	So if you want to get in a quick phone call, please do so.
	And I noticed that Michael from End of Days Radio tried to call again during that show.
	So if you want to get it in really quickly, we'd be more than happy to take your call.
	That's 623-242-CAST-623-242-2278.
	So you guys, I hope you enjoy Art's show tonight.
	I really just hope that the internet connectivity gods allow everything to properly align tonight.
	Especially considering the number of terrestrial radio affiliates that are signed on board that are signed up to carry this show tonight.
	I really hope that everything goes well.
	Boy, I'm stressed out.
	I can only imagine what Art Bell feels like at this moment.
	Hold on here.
	Let's try and get Michael in.
	michael can you hear me i i really just hope that the now i'm hearing see michael michael i'm hearing myself So whatever it is you're feeding through your mixer.
	Can you hear me now?
	I do now.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	Hey, man.
	How are you?
	I'm good.
	I'm just calling in because I'm completely excited for Art to come back.
	We are too.
	I also wanted to say Redacted did a great job.
	I don't know why everyone's so pissed off.
	Well, my theory there is that it's just simply not what people expected to hear, but it's not a reflection on specifically what she did during the show.
	It's just people have this image of what they expect to hear when Art Bell comes on the air.
	And when there's another voice there fielding questions, chiming in, they're just not used to hearing that.
	It could have been anybody, and I literally mean anybody, and people would have been losing their shit.
	Do you agree?
	Yeah, everyone's so used to Art just being there running the whole show.
	But like you said, and everyone knows it was just a test run, but everyone freaked out anyways.
	And I'm not sure if it was Art's intention to find out if everybody would like Redacted, but I'm not exactly sure what he was trying to do there.
	You know what?
	I just realized I forgot to unlock the live chat thread for this show.
	Hey, guys, I need to post and show everybody that that thread is now unlocked.
	Okay.
	So now if you go to bellgab.com and you click on the live show thread, you're going to be able to get in there now.
	It's no longer locked.
	Michael, I'm sorry.
	I've got to go.
	No problem.
	Well, take care.
	Good show.
	Okay, thank you.
	Thank you.
	I really do appreciate that.
	Everybody, thank you for listening.
	It's been a pleasure bringing this show to you tonight.
	We hope that you'll tune into the Gabcast in the future, the Gabcast, a podcast about bellgab.com.
	Please visit bellgab.com and join the live show chat thread.
	You'll see it right there on the main page.
	You'll see the entry to get in.
	Just click on that.
	You're going to be in there, that thread grows by, I will tell you that thread probably grows by maybe one page every five minutes.
	It's insane.
	So enjoy that.
	Have a good night.
	Thanks, Jasmunda, Onin.
	You guys, thank you very much.
	I'm glad you were here.
	Thanks, buddy.
	See you guys later.
	Thank you, everybody.

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