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	This is the Gabcast, a podcast about BellGab.com.
	Call the show now at 623-242-CAST.
	That's 623-242-2278.
	Now, shut up, sit down, and listen to the damn show.
	This is the Gabcast.
	Hi, everybody.
	It's a podcast about BellGab.com.
	Jasmunda's here.
	Hey, buddy.
	Good morning.
	Redacted?
	Yes, sir.
	Aldous Burbank.
	Polo, Amigos.
	Onin.
	Hey, man, what's up?
	Well, you just sound so Onin-ish today.
	I don't know.
	I do.
	Amen.
	What's happening?
	How's it going?
	Anyway, if you'd like to be on the show, the number to call is 623-242-CAST.
	That is 623-242-CAST.
	Although I suspect that a lot of the phone calls that occur today are going to happen at the end of the show after everybody's had time to react to everything that it is that they've heard today.
	We've made allusions to the idea that there was going to be something about today's show that set it apart from previous shows, or I should say from most previous shows.
	And that is the case.
	I don't know that I necessarily want to just spill the beans right out of the gate here, so I don't guess I will.
	But I mean, do all of the co-hosts?
	I know I know what's going on today.
	Redacted knows what's going on today.
	Does everybody here know what's going on today?
	Is there anybody hosting this show who's in the dark about what it is we're going to do?
	Slightly in the dark.
	Okay.
	Well, we're never going to tell you today's show is over.
	Good day.
	No, either.
	Bye-bye.
	I think Jasmunda knows.
	I know Aldous Burbeck knows.
	I'm in the 99 percentile of thinking I know, but there's always a curveball out there.
	Well, you know, I think that in telling everybody what we're going to do today, part of what should happen in that process is redacted.
	I don't know.
	I mean, everybody knows you're going to be sitting in with Art on open lines on his new show, Midnight in the Desert.
	But I don't really know that anybody...
	Have you ever actually told the story of how all this came about, how it all came to be?
	No, it's a highly classified story.
	And I have held my secrets as I said I would.
	But maybe after.
	Wait a minute.
	What secret are you to?
	No, should I tell before?
	Definitely.
	Not after.
	Okay, well.
	I made a proposal to Art Bell, ask him if he would be willing to let me sit down and conduct an interview with him to discuss the new show and kind of get behind the scenes about the new show to tell everybody about it.
	And lo and behold, he agreed to do just that and actually got a very generous invitation to Perump to go see the studio and sit down with him.
	Now, he wait, no, I was under the impression that you had to wait outside on the porch.
	Not true there.
	No, not true at all.
	I'm a guest.
	After he agreed To do this interview, then started toying around with the idea of the possibility of perhaps joining an Open Lines show.
	And so that's how the whole, that's how the whole deal happened.
	That's the backstory that no one knows about of why Open Lines was even considered because he's never done that before ever in his entire broadcasting history had someone come on.
	But this is someone who's fixing someone's fixing a washing machine or something.
	Not me.
	The hell is that?
	That's me making the coffee, guys.
	You stoner piece of crap.
	Aldous, how are you, buddy?
	I'm good.
	Coffee's done.
	Who wants cream, sugar?
	You know what?
	I ran into the other room to get coffee as the intro music was playing to the show.
	And then when I was ready to talk, I looked up and my microphone wasn't even, I had to like grab it and pull it down.
	I totally, woefully, you know, I showed up here three hours before the show today to get everything ready because the pro the computer that I normally use to do all these podcasts, it's such a powerful, awesome machine, but I was only using it to do these podcasts.
	I said, to hell with this, I'm going to take this thing home and hook it up to my 65-inch Visio.
	So that's what I'm doing with that machine now.
	And I had to come in here today about three hours, three and a half hours early just to build a new machine so that all this would work today.
	I didn't have a computer in here to do all this.
	So it's been, I don't know why I'm telling the audience this.
	It's very inside baseball.
	But I think you should know how those of us who bring this show to you suffer in order to make it all happen.
	Well, I think it's a good thing to bring up because what everybody is about to hear is me sitting down with art.
	But just because you hear me sitting down with him doesn't mean that at least eight people's effort didn't go into this.
	A lot of people helped to make this happen.
	And I won't name names.
	I won't embarrass anybody.
	But a lot goes into something like this that you wouldn't think.
	I wasn't one of the people who I was actively working against Redacted in the background.
	I was like sending art messages.
	Hey, did you see what Redacted said about you in 2011?
	Hey, did you see what you know?
	And nothing has worked.
	I have failed miserably.
	Well, you know what?
	Let's stop bullcrapping everybody.
	We've got an interview between Redacted and Art Bell.
	And I think we should just go ahead and play this thing and let it rip.
	It's about 52, 53 minutes long.
	And we're all, I have not heard this.
	I had every opportunity to listen to this in advance, and I just rejected that entirely because I thought I want to hear this in real time with everybody else and have the same organic reaction to it that everybody else has.
	So I have not heard this, and I suspect I'm not the only one hosting this show right now who hasn't heard it.
	Aldous, by the way, you were out there with Redacted as well.
	Surely you were made to wait on the porch.
	I politely, quietly listened to the interview while it was done.
	And I've also refrained from re-listening, waiting for today's show.
	So I'm excited.
	Did you awkwardly stare at Art Bell the whole time everything was going on?
	Did you like look at his mouth moving and say that is the mouth from which all of that came?
	I can't believe I'm looking at it.
	I was calmly freaked out, I think, is what I was.
	Oh, I could see him out of the corner of my eye because the gentleman he is was sitting there staying completely silent.
	And it progressed, and this was a hilarious thing to see.
	And I had to not acknowledge it in my mind while this was happening.
	But I could see out of the corner of my eye.
	At first, he's sitting upright like a normal person, and he's got this huge grin on his face.
	And then, as it's progressing, then I look over and his hand is on his mouth.
	And then both hands are on his mouth and he's making an effort to press his hands up against his mouth.
	His face is turning red.
	By the end of it, I can see out of the corner of my eye, Aldous has both hands on his face to keep his mouth shut.
	His face is beat red and it's in between his knees like there's an emergency going on.
	And that was a funny thing to see happen.
	I couldn't look over there.
	You know, everybody, Redacted was standing in the room, the room where all of that magic happened for all of those years.
	I mean, the same studio.
	It was like visiting Apple Studios, wasn't it?
	Well, I got to say this, guys.
	There's one thing that I'm most impressed by afterwards, and that is what gracious hosts Art and Aaron were.
	And while we were standing in that studio, Aaron was at the door just looking at Redacted and myself, just looking and smiling, knowing that we were Disneyland.
	And it was just neat to see that they got that we were excited, even though we were doing our best to act normal.
	Now, I don't want to hear about what great hosts they were unless Aaron offered you guys frozen pizza.
	Did that happen?
	Homemade coconut macaroons.
	Okay.
	Right, Redacted.
	And hot coffee ready to go.
	Boy, I'm joking.
	Yeah, so am I.
	And Art, I know you're listening in the chat room.
	If there's anything missing from your house, that's my fault.
	I did ask them to take a souvenir home for me.
	All right, you guys, let's stop bullcrapping everybody.
	Let's just do this thing.
	Here it is.
	This is Art Bell and Redacted.
	Enjoy.
	It's about 53 minutes long, everybody.
	This is Redacted.
	Ladies and gentlemen, it is far beyond an honor and a great privilege to be here.
	Our guest this fine evening is a one-of-a-kind living legend of radio, Art Bell, author, National Radio Hall of Fame, inductee, Guinness World Record Holder for Endurance Broadcasting, and pioneer of late-night talk radio, who once held 15 million listeners on over 500 affiliate radio stations spellbound every night.
	Well, I'm here to tell you that the king of the nighttime is back.
	He is now free and he wants to take you for a ride on July 20th with his new show, Midnight in the Desert.
	Thank you for joining us tonight, Art.
	You're very welcome.
	Good to be here.
	I'm going to take you for a ride, all right?
	I've got all these people who have joined, sent $5 each.
	So the ride is going to be, I'm headed for Mexico with their money.
	Are you really?
	You got plans already?
	I'm beyond the way.
	I want to share something with you from your website.
	I don't know if you've seen this, but it was a comment that really sums it up for everybody.
	I think it was a gentleman named William who said, Art, you are so desperately needed to rescue the genre you invented that it's almost an emergency.
	I know I, along with millions of others, welcome this news with great anticipation.
	There are precious few people who have ever warranted hundreds of hours of my listening time, and you have always been one of them.
	Godspeed.
	And I think that's wonderful.
	An emergency.
	That's interesting.
	It is.
	That's the word that was used.
	Well, you see, I view myself as just a normal guy.
	I really do.
	Just a talk show host.
	Just a talk show host.
	That's all.
	And so if it's an emergency for me to come back, then it must mean that some terrible stuff is going on out there.
	Well, I'm very curious, what new show elements, if there are any that you can reveal, will you be bringing to Midnight in the Desert?
	All right.
	I think I can talk about this.
	I'm sort of mentally chewing it over right now.
	One of the things I'm going to do, I think every other show in the world, certainly those carried by terrestrial radio stations, have news at the top of the hour, typically Associated Press or whoever.
	Five minutes of news.
	So I thought, how boring is that?
	Let's do something a little different.
	We're going to have news, all right.
	But I connected with a wonderful guy who worked for the old Mutual News and still does news for about 40 or 50 stations every day.
	And he's a fan.
	And I said, what about the idea of doing, oh, sure, you know, if 150 million people suddenly get hacked and all their information is suddenly public, we'll run that at the beginning of the newscast.
	But the moment the big story of the day is over, the rest of the newscast is going to be paranormal.
	Paranormal news.
	Paranormal news.
	It's going to sound just like an ABC radio newscast.
	But instead of running it at the top of the hour, when everybody else is running news, we're going to run it at the bottom of the hour when they're doing commercials and whatever else they do at the bottom of the hour.
	So we're going to flip it completely.
	I don't think anybody's ever done, sure, people come on with paranormal news of one sort or another, but this is going to be a packaged five-minute paranormal newscast.
	A little bit different, I'd say.
	I'd say that is a little bit different.
	I've never heard of anybody doing that.
	And what I imagine is someone searching the radio dial because you will be on 21 selected stations throughout the country.
	So you're traveling up and down the dial on the bottom of the hour when you don't want to hear the boring commercials break that's going.
	And then you're going to be able to do that.
	You're going to bump into this newscast and you're going to go, what the heck?
	And that's going to capture the listeners.
	It will.
	And it will add to the program.
	In other words, I may hear something during that newscast that then merits talking about with my guest or with Open Lines.
	So you're going to open up Paranormal Pandora's box with a newscast.
	I think that is a great new thing to add to the show that has not ever been done before.
	And that is where your talents lie, is that pioneering spirit that brings new things to radio that have never been done before.
	Yeah, I'm not afraid to do anything.
	You know, I'm free.
	I'm free.
	Completely.
	I have no corporate bosses.
	I am my own boss.
	So God knows what I may do.
	I don't know.
	We'll find out.
	Prepare yourself, ladies and gentlemen.
	So some of us know this already, but I'd like to hear it from you and listeners who may not know how to tune in.
	Interesting question.
	Well, of course, the main way, the network is called the digital, right?
	Dark matter digital network.
	That's right.
	So the main way will be through, and the easy way, will be through TuneIn.
	If you have an Apple product or an Android product or a tablet of some sort, you download TuneIn, which is free.
	It gives you access to thousands of radio stations, and we are one of those.
	So, piece of cake.
	And by the way, everybody, I recommend that you go and get those earbuds that arrived with whatever instrument you've got and use the earbuds because we're going to be in living stereo.
	So it's going to be kind of cool.
	It's going to sound really good.
	The quality of the audio is going to knock your socks off.
	It's going to be excellent.
	So that's the way I want everybody to listen.
	And I will go on there and I will sell earbuds if I have to to get people to listen.
	And headsets with microphones to call in on.
	Well, yeah, you know what?
	Here's what I want everybody who has not yet done it to do.
	Go out, if you don't have an Apple product or an Android, and you probably do because most everybody does.
	Download Skype and put it on that product because you can call me using that and you'll sound really, really good.
	The audio quality will be unlike distant cellular broken up connections that I'm used to.
	If you call me using Wi-Fi with your phone or your tablet, it's going to sound good, preferably a phone.
	So I'm looking forward to that.
	I'm also looking forward to the international aspect of what we're going to do.
	Worldwide, anybody, not like Sirius, that was confined to North America.
	It was one of the problems.
	They originally told me that they had a streaming service which covered the world.
	And that is only sort of a partial truth.
	It covers the U.S. and Canada.
	And as for the rest of the world, if you have a credit card from the U.S. and a U.S. address, you can probably get service.
	Otherwise, no.
	This is so good that my wife's mother that lives in the southernmost Philippine island can flip on her phone and listen to the show.
	Just that easy.
	It's that easy.
	Wow.
	It's kind of like ham radio.
	I mean, we're going to be hearing from people everywhere in the world.
	So there truly are no limits to the listeners and what you say worldwide on ye old internet this time.
	Boy, is that ever true?
	Sure is.
	South Africa, call in.
	England, France, call in.
	Japan, call in.
	And believe me, we'll hear from all those places.
	Boy, that's going to be so interesting to hear about Art Bell fans who have longed for you to come back on the air in different countries and for them to find out that you're back and then to call.
	Boy, that's just going to be a great time on the radio.
	I think the international aspect of it is, you know, part of the ham radio in me.
	I love hearing from far away places.
	Far away places.
	The farther the better.
	That's right.
	Right, yes.
	So I'm really curious about something else too.
	I mean, times have changed.
	Technology has grown a little bit out of its infancy.
	And I'm wondering if you can share with us the differences in your studio setup now versus back in the 90s.
	It's completely different.
	Back in the 90s, I played commercials on cart machines, tape.
	Back then I had about 13 phone lines connected to my house.
	We did deliver the show in a pretty decent way using satellite.
	But now the difference today is that everything I have is dependent on the internet.
	Phone lines, the Skype connections, literally the show itself going from here to Keith Rowland and then Keith Rowland to tune in.
	There'll be any number of ways to listen.
	Oh, and I might mention, we've got two shortwave radio stations that are carrying the show, too.
	Certainly do.
	I get a lot of calls from people who say, oh, I want to hear it on the radio.
	Oh, I want to hear it on the radio.
	It's got to be on the radio.
	So those people, if they wish, can get a shortwave radio, and sure enough, they'll hear us.
	Well, I'm sure that's what all the cool kids will be doing.
	Now, the cool kids will probably be on an iPhone.
	But some of the people who love radio will indeed listen to shortwave.
	Well, for people that are getting really amped up and really charged and excited over this, I'd like to remind everyone that you are doing an Open Lines test this Sunday, July 19th.
	That's right.
	And I'm wondering if you can share your thoughts with us on what the journey was like to get to this moment for the last couple of years.
	Well, I think everybody is somewhat familiar with the difficulties that I had with SiriusXM.
	The streaming service was not all they said it was.
	A lot of people reported problems with that.
	They really did.
	And they were getting cut off.
	And my listener base came from terrestrial radio.
	Yes.
	So almost all of them, not all, but most all of them subscribed to the streaming aspect of Sirius XM.
	Just to hear you.
	Yes, as opposed to going and buying a radio and putting an antenna outside.
	That's what they did.
	They had a 90-day free trial.
	At the end of that time, they had to pony up $180 or so for a year.
	And frankly, when they were getting cut off fairly frequently, asking for that much money was a problem.
	So a lot of the listener base dropped off.
	A lot of the that's not really fair to say, a lot of what was my listener base dropped off.
	I had virtually every truck driver in the world listening.
	That too was a problem because while I love the truckers, about 80 to 90% of the time when you take calls, you'd get a good old boy going down the road who had a cellular connection that was iffy.
	Yeah, a little iffy.
	And so it made it difficult.
	And I sort of went back to SiriusXM and said, listen, please fix your streaming.
	Let us allow us to stream for free until you get it fixed.
	Yes, I remember that.
	And they said, mm-mm, no.
	I said, oh, please, just until you get it fixed, and then we can go back to the pay.
	They said, no.
	And that's when I said, okay, goodbye.
	That was a hard no.
	It was.
	It was indeed.
	It looks like listeners are trying to call a little bit early here.
	So we'll take care of that quite quickly.
	Anyway, I said no, and that cost me two years.
	Two years of patiently waiting for time to pass.
	And it wasn't easy.
	There was a lot of talk.
	There was a lot of stuff.
	Two years of my life gone.
	My broadcast life gone.
	But I had to make a decision.
	It was a very, very, very hard decision, believe me.
	There was a lot of weight behind it when you said, well, we're either all in.
	I said, I'm all in.
	And when I said, I'm all in, it was when I gave them that ultimatum, I guess would be the right word, yes.
	And it came back to no.
	I was frankly quite surprised.
	I thought it was going to be a yes.
	It doesn't seem like too much to ask to me.
	Well, I'm with you.
	Keep an audience, to keep a great show on the air, to keep your talent on the air and keep providing that great content for a company like Sirius that seems to have pretty deep pockets,
	just allowing for that audience to remain connected and the content to be continued to be put out there a few months of a free stream while they get that stream a little more stable seems like a responsible business decision, but again, that could be their comment was, we only want exclusive content.
	Whether the streaming is stable or not.
	Right.
	So they were unwilling to sort of release it to everybody for even a short period of time that it would have taken for them to fix things up and getting them run right.
	To run right.
	So anyway, that was it.
	I was all in.
	It didn't work, and it cost me two years.
	And this entire two years, you've been preparing for.
	Well, you may recall, you may recall, that I said at the time, don't worry, in two years I will come back and I will put up a free show.
	I remember.
	I remember.
	And that's what it is.
	It's free, and it's free to everybody.
	Now, that does mean that enough people have to join what we call the Time Travelers.
	Yes, the Time Traveler subscription is only $5.
	It's only $5.
	You don't have to join.
	It's free to listen.
	But if you do join, that will then allow you to download the show at your convenience, listen to it anytime you want.
	It will allow you to send me a message during the show and ask the guest a question.
	So those were two little perks that we thought we could throw in and ask $5.
	And the people paying that will support the other people getting it for free.
	And I wanted to be on a venue that was competitive, frankly, with George Norrie and what they're doing over at iHeartRadio.
	It is essentially a free show to listen to.
	And again, they, of course, also have some sort of club that allows you to download.
	So it's very much like that.
	And this allows me to be competitive.
	I can reach as many people as they can reach with 600 radio stations.
	With your setup the way it is now.
	Absolutely.
	You can reach just as many people, even worldwide.
	Perhaps more.
	Perhaps more.
	Now, I'm not saying I'm going to do that.
	I'm not crazy enough to think that I'm going to start out that way.
	I'm not.
	Probably going to start out with 10 or 20,000 people.
	And then it'll grow.
	If it's a good program, it'll grow.
	Simple as that.
	I can't see it doing anything but taking off like a rocket straight into space.
	Well, here's my thinking.
	I'm one of those people.
	I carry an iPhone around with me on my hip.
	Other people carry androids or whatever, all else.
	It's kind of like everybody's carrying a little portable radio with them.
	Now, how often anymore do you see somebody walking down the street with a portable radio plastered to their ear?
	Never.
	That's right next to never.
	However, you do see people with these little guys.
	Everybody's tattooing.
	Everybody's got it.
	Everybody's face is lit by the light of the phone.
	So the potential is there for everybody.
	It is a technological revolution.
	And we're going to ride that wave.
	And once again, you've spotted a trend and are going to grab on to that trend and show everybody how it's done.
	That's correct.
	Well, I think you've got an excellent plan, and I think this is going to solve the radio emergency that currently stands.
	I'm not sure I would have described it as an emergency, but I am pleased to be coming back and returning a sane dialogue to the paranormal.
	It deserves to be treated seriously, taken seriously.
	And people that have had significant paranormal experiences in their life deserve to have a venue to bring those experiences, I shouldn't say to the light of day, maybe more to the light of the moon, because this is going to be happening at night where it should happen and where these things are best talked about is in the night, during the night time.
	Oh, I think so.
	You know, so I suspect we'll hear about people with their little iPhones or Androids lying beside them on the bed, I hope with earbuds in their ear, listening to something that's very, very different.
	It's going to be the most different show out there, honestly.
	There's people that try to do this, but, you know, this brings me to one of my questions that I've really wanted to ask you.
	You were the one who made the paranormal mainstream.
	You took it seriously.
	I do take it seriously.
	I'm very curious, how do you feel about all of the TV shows, movies, podcasts that have been made that are clearly influenced by your years on Coast?
	Well, it only measures the level of interest, which is very, very high.
	An awful lot of the new shows, perhaps a third of them, are doing something connected to the paranormal.
	X-Files offshoots.
	Isn't it interesting, by the way, that the X-Files returns as do I?
	Just about the same time.
	Yes, that has not passed me by.
	That is, it's really interesting.
	You know, some of us, because of course I'm on Bell Gab, and some of us on Bellgab have started to ask ourselves what year it really is.
	Is this 2015 or is this 1995 all over again?
	It's not going to be 1995 all over again.
	I don't know what I'm going to do on the air this time, but it's not going to be what I did.
	It's going to have echoes of what I did.
	It's going to sound kind of like what I did.
	The familiar voices will be back.
	Ross Mitchell, for example, my announcer.
	Certainly hope so.
	It wouldn't be the same without.
	My bumper music, I refused to come back without having some arrangement for the bumper music that I love.
	It's part of the show.
	It's part of the mood.
	And I wouldn't do it without it.
	Right, right.
	So you're going to be getting a lot of new listeners with this new show.
	You're reaching a brand new worldwide audience.
	And, you know, there's some things from your days on Coast that are going to be leaking into the new show, such as, you know, there's this thing about arts parts.
	And I would really like you to just sort of talk about that a little bit for your new listeners.
	Describe Arts Parts, please.
	It was sent to me out of the blue.
	I received a lot of mail.
	And a package came in addressed to me one day, many years ago.
	And inside was a letter from a gentleman who claimed that he was delivering to me in this package parts from the crash at Roswell.
	And they were odd-looking things made up, we've now found out, of bismuth, and magnesium layers that actually cannot be duplicated now.
	We've had it to every major lab in the United States, and they've tried to duplicate it.
	They've tried to grow it.
	They've tried to manufacture it.
	It can't be done.
	Cannot be reproduced.
	No, no.
	It cannot be reproduced.
	So we don't know what it is or where it came from, but we do know that it's got some odd aspects to it, and it can't be reproduced.
	So I don't know what I've got.
	I've got something strange.
	Arts parts.
	I went on, Larry King handed Larry a little bit of Arts Parts, and he quickly slipped it in his pocket.
	And I think I asked him if he really wanted to have more children.
	And it really came out of his pocket quickly.
	I saw that too.
	Yes, he brought that right up out of his pocket quick.
	So Arts Parts remains a mystery.
	I don't know.
	I remember the idea was...
	Linda Howe did a lot of the testing.
	She did.
	She did.
	Did they ever subject any of the parts to high voltage?
	Oh, yes.
	And were there any results on that?
	Did you get any results on that?
	Yes, it moved around.
	I believe they actually lifted one of the pieces into the air with high voltage.
	It was really odd.
	I've got some of the video.
	One of the pieces levitated.
	So these are allegedly pieces of the craft.
	That's what it said.
	That's what the letter said.
	Yes.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	And those metals have never been able to be reproduced.
	That's true.
	That's very fascinating.
	It's still very, very fascinating.
	And I bet some of the new listeners won't know about that story.
	So I appreciate you sharing that with us.
	And I have another one.
	And this is one of my personal burning questions, actually.
	Do you still have your time machine?
	No, it got lost in a move.
	It did, it did.
	It may be in my garage, but I haven't seen it.
	I was afraid to plug it in.
	I'm pretty familiar with electronics, and I examined this thing carefully.
	And it was designed to be plugged into a wall outlet.
	And I did plug it in briefly, but it got so hot that it scared me.
	And I turned it off.
	And that's the truth.
	Wow.
	I would get scared too if I had something someone said was a time machine, plugged it in, and now you're starting to smell burning metal or burning parts.
	Well, actually, yes, there was some of that.
	Kind of an odd smell, and it got too hot to touch.
	Wow, that's spooky.
	So speaking of time machines, will Mr. Madman be back for an update, Mr. Madman Markov?
	You know, all these years, I have saved Madman's phone number.
	And I called him two or three weeks ago.
	So he is in this dimension.
	He is.
	And he's working on a bigger, more powerful version of his time machine.
	And where he's getting the parts, I probably don't want to know.
	We don't want to know.
	But I have asked him to come on the show, and he said, well, I have trouble with my cell phone, but, and you'd think if you can build a time machine, you'd have a cell phone that works.
	But nevertheless, he is willing to come on the program.
	So at some point, we'll probably have Madman back.
	The interesting part of his story, of course, was that it was verified.
	In other words, he came on and told us that he was about to build this time machine, that he had stolen transformers from the power company in order to do this.
	He browned out the town that he lived in, I believe.
	Actually, his parole officer.
	Resting officer called in.
	Called the program.
	That's right.
	And verified the whole story.
	So very interesting.
	Yeah, it was.
	And I'm happy to know that he is in our dimension and is back in our timeline.
	Whether he remains in our dimension, and in fact, on this earth, I think is of some question.
	I think that will always be of some question.
	But I hope you get him on the air for an update before he decides to.
	Before he electrocutes himself.
	Well, before he either turns into a human barbecue or decides to go and visit Woodstock, like we'd all like to do.
	So.
	Well, there's a fact you didn't know.
	What is that?
	I was at Woodstock.
	You were at Woodstock.
	I was.
	For the entire three days.
	No.
	No, I was not there for three days.
	I was coming back from the military.
	I had been discharged from the military.
	And I hitchhiked across from, I was discharged in California.
	Okay.
	And I hitchhiked across, and as I was coming, I kept hearing about this big thing is going to happen in New York, you know.
	Had to be the biggest news.
	It was big news.
	And so I made it to Woodstock.
	But when I got there, it was kind of winding down.
	And oh my God, it was muddy.
	It was raining.
	I've seen these pictures.
	Yes.
	Oh, it looks.
	So I wasn't there for a long time, but I actually was at Woodstock.
	You went to Woodstock.
	So was there a performance that stands out for you?
	What did you get to see when you were there?
	You know, what I know, it was winding down.
	What I remember most is mud.
	Mud.
	I had mud all over me.
	And a bunch of laughing, dancing hippies, right?
	Well, it still sounds like a good time.
	So are you going to have to keep your topics and guests secret until the day of each show?
	How is that going to work?
	I wish it were not so.
	But from my experience at Sirius XM, I determined that the folks over at the competing network were instructing,
	let me see how I can put this, were suggesting to guests that they might not want to be on with me if they wish to continue to be on that show.
	That other show.
	Yes, that other show.
	That was said by a couple of gals called the Ghostbuster Gals.
	The Ghostbuster gals.
	That's correct.
	They actually said that on the air.
	So it's not so much me saying that as me remembering they said that.
	Right.
	Right.
	So because of that, you are going to have to keep your plans secret.
	Right, we actually have about a month booked.
	A month booked.
	I'm going to be holding Fridays open for open lines.
	And when I say open lines, I mean unscreened open lines.
	When you hit the button, collars on the edge.
	You've been in the studio.
	You can see I have no screener.
	I have no ability to screen, nor do I want to screen.
	Right, it would take away a lot.
	Because a screener, if they think somebody sounds, well, a little off, they eliminate them before they ever hit the air, right?
	And that's way too polished.
	And you're going to lose, well, not only is it too polished, but you're going to lose some of the better calls.
	You may not think they're better calls when you take them, but as you get into somebody who sounds like they might, you know, have not quite the elevator at the top, you suddenly find out that, ooh, gee, this is interesting.
	I mean, that's how I found a fellow who had trapped a ghost.
	Rodney.
	That's how I Rodney.
	Yeah, so you've got a very good memory.
	But what I don't want to do with this program, and it's good to say in this interview so that all of you hear it, I don't want to spend all my time reminiscing about things in the past.
	This is about new stuff.
	Going ahead.
	That's right.
	On and forward.
	That's right.
	Evelyn Paglini is no longer with us.
	Sorely missed.
	So I'm going to have to find a new witch.
	Lori Cabot.
	I don't want just any witch.
	I want, as I originally said, a cauldron stirring.
	Broom flying.
	Real McCoy witch.
	Yes.
	That's right.
	And Evelyn Paglini not only turned out to be that, but she turned out to be, I would say, the most accurate prognosticator of anybody I've had on the air.
	Her predictions were scarily spot on.
	Yes, they were.
	I remember her making a prediction about fires in California.
	That's right.
	And lo and behold, those fires did happen.
	And every time I saw more news coverage of those fires, I had to think of her voice.
	And it really made the blood run cold that what is she tapped into that she knows these things.
	So then I had to go back and listen to everything she said and start taking notes.
	Right, and I'm sure that your eyes opened when you realized what her hit rate was.
	Yes, because most have a hit rate equal to a coin flip.
	At best.
	Right, right.
	And she's sadly no longer with us.
	And I think unless you were to find another practicing witch, the best way to run across radio gold like that again is to open up the lines and make the call and have a witch line.
	And boy, is that going to be a good time.
	And that's what I'll do.
	That's what I'll do.
	You know, I'm free.
	I can do anything I want.
	So expect the unexpected from me.
	Especially from Art Bell.
	Well, here's something I want to just share with you from Bell Gab because, you know, now that you are free, you don't have corporate bosses.
	You've got Dark Matter Digital Network is going to be your new home.
	And with new technology these days, there's a concern about pirates.
	Oh yes.
	Here to tell you that we have a team of very capable hackers and sleuths and internet web crawlers to use a really, really old term from back in the day.
	We will be hunting down pirated streams, YouTube videos of the show that get put up, Torrents, because do you know about Torrance?
	I know about Torrents.
	Well, you can probably take all of your shows, record them, put it in a torrent, and people can just download it, and there goes your subscription.
	So where can we send links to notify you of pirated versions of Midnight in the Desert?
	What cool is this?
	My producer, Dr. Jay, is also an well, he's been to law school.
	How do you know?
	Oh, yes.
	So the people that we have recruited, what better place to go than Belgab where there's probably plenty of pirates?
	Oh, yes.
	We have our own collection of pirates.
	The best people to catch pirates are pirates.
	Yes.
	And then they will report to Dr. Jay, who will fire off the appropriate legal better stop or else type letter.
	That sounds good.
	That sounds good.
	I think we'll be able to, with the team that we have and, you know, our volume is not very loyal.
	It's not, yes, they are.
	It's not just that, but it's, you know, a lot of people who are joining wouldn't go to the trouble to listen to a pirated version, you know, for five bucks a month.
	My goodness, you can download every program so easily and then listen to it at your leisure.
	For example, I think a lot of truck drivers are going to do that.
	They're going to go to a truck stop somewhere.
	They're going to download the show and then they're going to listen to it while they're on the road.
	So I think that even though there will be piracy, we know it's going to be a problem.
	I think that a lot of people who pay the five bucks just don't care.
	So we will go after the pirates, make no mistake, but I don't think it's an issue.
	We're behind you on that.
	I just want you to know, and we will probably be finding links to pirated versions of Midnight in the Desert and just wanted everyone to know where to send the alert to once those links are found.
	And so I appreciate you sharing that.
	We can send those links to Dr. Jay and he'll take care of business.
	He's already got the forms all set to fire out.
	Ready to go.
	So open lines.
	Yes.
	You have a big fan by the name of JC Webster, the third.
	And I am just dying to know.
	And this is a personal question, but I mean, just from me that I've been thinking about for so long in the months leading up to this July 20th, your first show.
	Are you going to bring back the demon voice changer that you had?
	I don't know.
	I may.
	It's kind of a technical nightmare.
	I did it before, and I may bring it back.
	I don't know.
	You don't need a demon voice changer to get JC going, though.
	That's for sure.
	You don't.
	And he will be going because he is a Facebook friend.
	Now, I want to dispel any even suggestion that I ever have set up anything on the air.
	JC, he came out of nowhere, just the way all of my other guests and callers have come out of nowhere.
	JC is a special case.
	Case would be the right word.
	Yes.
	And my recollection is when I was on Sirius XM, JC sure did pick an odd time to call.
	I think we had just done two and a half hours with Linda of this very, very serious show.
	Oh, and she was awesome.
	And the first call I picked up was JC screaming bloody murder at me about being the devil.
	And Linda just stopped and she was silent for a while.
	She began laughing.
	It was a moment, you know, after two and a half hours of horrid science and you pick up the first call and it's JC.
	Right out of the gate.
	That's right.
	Straight out of the gate.
	That's right.
	Stop me cold.
	I went, oh, my God.
	Well, that tells you we don't screen calls.
	Well, if anything's going to tell us the calls are unscreened, it's definitely that.
	But I was just curious.
	But you're right.
	You don't need a whole lot to get him going.
	And I wonder about how much coffee that guy has.
	You need a lot to stop him.
	You do.
	You do.
	It takes more than just an emergency break.
	And there are probably other JC types out there.
	Oh, I can't wait to see who they are.
	And I can't wait to hear them call in.
	You know, what I do is not that special.
	I'm just me.
	That's it.
	I'm honestly not that special.
	I've got a bit of a technical background.
	Yes, I know a little bit about the paranormal.
	I'm not an expert.
	I don't think it's that you need to be an expert.
	I think it's that you take the subject matter seriously.
	You allow people to explain their experiences.
	Some people I allow to hang themselves, frankly.
	Well, that happens.
	You know, if they're a little bit off the normal wagon, I generally encourage them to continue down the road they're on until they finally hoist themselves up.
	That's always a good story, though.
	It's always a good story.
	Always a good story.
	And you've always sort of brought these topics to the table, presented them, and let the listeners form their own opinion.
	Absolutely.
	You know, and I think that Belgab, for example, is full of a lot of very bright people.
	Some, not so much, but the majority, pretty bright people.
	And you can tell, I think if you listen to my voice long enough, you can tell when I'm speaking beyond a guest to the audience.
	Yes, you can pick up on that very easily.
	Right.
	Right.
	So listen for that.
	We will.
	We will have our ears perked for this for sure.
	And so are listeners going to have to turn off their streaming device when you take their call on the air?
	They are.
	Turn off that streaming device.
	Sure.
	As a matter of fact, there's going to be quite a delay between the time I say something and it actually gets to the device.
	About 30 seconds, actually.
	30 seconds this time.
	Yes.
	So that's a little bit longer.
	It is than broadcasting.
	Watch your career flash before your eyes.
	Well, no.
	We still only have seven seconds of career time.
	I see.
	In other words, I've got a button I can push on my phone, and that will trigger a seven-second delay, which will collapse the last seven seconds of what was said.
	And that's the seven seconds you have to consider your career.
	Bad language is not a problem.
	I don't allow it on the program.
	That is a rule.
	No bad language.
	Right.
	I suppose an occasional this or that might leak through, but it's not the problem.
	The problem is if somebody were to, For example, say Joe Blow is a murderer or a child molester.
	That's libel.
	That's a problem.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Potentially a problem.
	A bad word every now and then, well, not so much.
	Right.
	Well.
	I'm not, by the way, no bad words, folks.
	Want to run a clean program?
	Well, because this is so varied.
	Listen, I listen to the internet, internet shows a lot.
	Yes.
	And they are filled with absolutely filthy language.
	think when talk show hosts somehow get on the internet they think they're free and so let's say every bad rules go straight out the window It's awful.
	It's absolutely awful.
	I want families to listen.
	Exactly.
	And that's what I was going to say.
	You've said this many times that your audience varies from age eight to age 80.
	And they do.
	And you would want to appeal to all of them.
	And I do.
	And I remember on Dark Matter when a young, I think, nine years old, nine-year-old boy called in with a question, and you said it exactly right.
	You know, this is a perfect demonstration of why we keep it clean.
	And there's another thing you said that pops to mind is that there are so many words in the English language.
	You should be able to find and use those words rather than a foul language to make your point or punctuate a point that you're trying to make, that you really don't need to use that word.
	Right, I really think bad language is a crutch for people who can't find another word.
	That's what it is.
	That's what it was that I've heard you refer to several, several times.
	Not only that, but if you listen to these shows that are doing this, after a while, even if you're an adult and you've heard these words before, it's no big deal.
	It becomes pretty tedious.
	And tiresome.
	It does.
	And in a strange way, exhausting.
	Yes.
	When you're listening to a program to, I don't know, maybe take you off, take your mind off into another place or be uplifted by a program.
	It seems like if you're listening to, you know, that every other third word, that it tends to wear you out in a strange way as you're listening.
	To listen to a long three-hour program of that would just...
	And consider, I'm the dad now of an eight-year-old girl, Asia Bell.
	And if I had this running in the background and three F-bombs came suddenly out of the radio, if I didn't shut it off, I can assure you my wife would immediately.
	So yes, I want the young audience and I want the older audience.
	And frankly, a lot of older people are also offended by bad language.
	So what's the point?
	Why do you want to offend listeners?
	I think it's just the mark of a quality program.
	And some of my fellow Bell Gabbers may call me stuffy for that opinion.
	I've seen a large argument erupt about that on Bell Gab.
	And some people think that you have to use bad language to be hip.
	And that's been the argument on Bell Gab, and I think they're full of it.
	I got to agree with that.
	Not just because you're Art Bell, but I like to see a quality program out there.
	And I'm frankly tired of it, honestly.
	It's tiring.
	That's something for, you know, when you stub your toe on the coffee table leg in the middle of the night, that's not for a radio program.
	So I'd kind of like to delve into something here just to sort of leave the listeners hungry and ready to begin this new show.
	We are almost in the quickening 2.0.
	And I'd like to get some of your thoughts on, you know, there's so many changes that have taken place in the last, say, 10 years.
	And what are your thoughts on where the society is headed and where the quickening is going?
	I think a really good question to ask on the air will be how they think the world will end.
	Now, I realize that my colleague across the aisle doesn't believe in global warming, but I can assure you it is warming, whether it's a natural cycle or it's man-made.
	Our planet is warming.
	And I do a lot of travel.
	There are people in the Maldives who are about to be without a home because their island is going to be covered with water.
	Additionally, it's warming so much that typhoons are now becoming so deadly in the Pacific that they're completely leveling things down to the dirt, even things built well.
	So we're in a time of really radical change.
	We're in a time when I think we can no longer believe a great deal of what our government says.
	For example, we just had this big deal about, oh, what was it?
	I'm trying to recall, about the hacking that went on.
	Yes.
	And not a word on the mainstream media about the fact that Anonymous claimed on the day prior to the hacking that, gee, you know, Wall Street's going to have a really perhaps rough time.
	The New York Stock Exchange.
	Hacking the New York Stock Exchange is no joke.
	That's right.
	And I think it was United Airlines and the New York Stock Exchange.
	I believe it was the Wall Street Journal.
	All got hacked on the same day, and it was a coincidence, they say.
	Internal technical issues, I think, was the canned answer that was given.
	Please would be my answer.
	Too much coincidence for me.
	Exactly.
	When I was young, you could believe what the FBI would come out and say, just like it was gold, but no longer.
	And the news was the news.
	The news was the news is right.
	That's right.
	What we get now is a carefully choreographed version of what they want us to hear.
	It's a form of, it's now become a form of entertainment.
	That's right.
	Rather than a service to inform you of what you need to know, what's going on in the world now.
	It's become its own form of entertainment.
	I find that just one solitary American's opinion.
	That's quite a shame.
	Well, how many Republicans now running?
	Seems to be Republican-heavy.
	There's about 15, I think.
	And who do we see?
	Donald Trump.
	And he's very entertaining.
	He's very entertaining, and he has a lot of money.
	And that brings me to, yeah, my other point is that money seems to be the drive behind everything.
	Rather than being truthful or telling people what they need to know, it's more about how much money can be made by this or that story.
	You're exactly right.
	I have never, ever been money-driven.
	I am driven.
	That's hard to describe.
	How am I driven?
	I'm driven to have fun, right?
	That's what this is all about, fun to me.
	I think that's what everybody is fired up about.
	I think a lot of the listeners, especially on Bell Gab, sense that.
	That this time it's purely for fun and that you have no bosses to report to.
	And because of that, I think that's why this return has the charge behind it that it does.
	Well, it's an encore performance.
	I'm 70 years old now.
	So hopefully I can still do it.
	We're going to find out.
	We are going to find out.
	We're going to find out in just a couple of days on July 20th when you sit down with Graham Hancock and you can discuss his new book, The Forgotten Wisdom of Earth's Lost Civilization, Magicians of the Gods.
	Right.
	We'll talk drugs with them too.
	His ayahuasca adventures.
	Absolutely.
	And his DMT adventures.
	That I'll talk about.
	We'll talk Egypt.
	He's got some views on Egypt that are very controversial.
	And it's going to be fun.
	You know, I'm sure he's going to be a really fun interview.
	And oh, by the way, I will, at least in the first few minutes of the show, bring Crystal Gale on.
	Will you really?
	Yes, sure.
	It's worth adding that Crystal gave me that lovely song, Midnight in the Desert.
	Yes.
	That's naming the new show.
	And so I will bring Crystal on the air and she'll have a word with everybody.
	How perfect is that?
	I'm sure everyone will love to hear her voice again.
	And she continues on the road, right?
	Oh, yes, yes, yes.
	She appears over the hill here in Vegas every now and then.
	And I've gone to a number of her concerts.
	She's really something.
	So what did she think when you asked, can you name the show Midnight in the Desert after her song?
	She said, oh my God, I'd love to come on.
	She's certainly honored.
	There's no question.
	That's great.
	And I'm honored.
	You should have seen the day.
	She actually came out here to my house.
	We had lunch and she handed me this song and said, I did this for you.
	Here you go.
	I've heard her perform a live version of it.
	And one of the things that she said right before the song began was that it was one of the most fun songs for her to write.
	Turned out actually to be a fair-sized hit.
	And a lot of people downloaded it.
	So it's not released in the normal way, but it's available for download.
	And I love it.
	I absolutely love the song.
	Well, ladies and gentlemen, brace yourselves, prepare yourselves.
	Get your devices ready for whatever's going to happen.
	Open Lines test July 19th at darkmatterdigitalnetwork.com.
	That starts at 9 p.m. Pacific.
	That's right.
	We're going to do two hours, 9 to 11, on the 19th.
	Okay.
	And it's just going to be open lines.
	We're just going to take a ride, have fun with it, see where it goes through the night.
	Sure.
	That's it.
	Sounds good to me.
	And then official kickoff July 20th, 9 p.m. Pacific to midnight.
	Correct.
	With Mr. Graham Hancock.
	It's going to be a great time.
	And I can't thank you enough for taking this time with us to talk about your new show.
	Thank you so much.
	Go, Belgab.
	Good night, Art.
	Good night.
	And that's it.
	Oh, let me turn my speakers down.
	Sorry.
	That was awesome.
	I was so taken listening to this.
	I'm just sitting here totally unprepared to broadcast.
	How about that?
	Well, rejected.
	I got to really tell you, you blew it.
	I'm Michael Van Diven.
	Lay it down for me, man.
	Give me the hard truth.
	No, it was amazing.
	I don't know why you had any reservations about putting that out there.
	I can't begin to imagine why you felt that way.
	It's the first time I've done anything like that.
	Well, that touched on pretty much everything I would have wanted it to.
	What about you guys?
	What do you think?
	I thought it was amazingly natural.
	I really enjoyed it.
	In Redacted, there were moments where the things you were saying I knew had to have been the result of prep that you did prior to, or maybe notes you had taken.
	And you went over that stuff in a very fluid manner that never would have.
	I only knew it because, well, it just seemed like information that you wouldn't have necessarily had ready to go right there.
	You maybe had notes or something.
	But the way you accessed it and presented it in the interview, it was very fluid, very smooth.
	Everything was wonderful.
	I can't begin to imagine why you felt that way.
	Well, I appreciate that.
	Redacted was upset with me.
	Redacted was a little bit upset with me.
	Maybe not upset, but a little miffed maybe that I didn't want to hear the interview beforehand because she wanted to know what I thought about it.
	And there was no need for that.
	That's pretty clear.
	Yeah, I think thank you.
	I think that that sounded more like a conversation than an interview.
	And if anyone had any reservations about Redacted sitting in without Belle for open lines, I think all those notions of that not working have been dispelled because that was fantastic.
	Yeah, I'm speechless.
	Well, this is the part of the show where we're going to start taking calls from listeners and see what everybody has to say about this.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hi, how's it going?
	You know, I told myself I was not going to ask that.
	Well, we're all horrible.
	We're very upset, disappointed, and we are shutting the show down now.
	Thank you for calling.
	I was going to say, Roswell's art.
	Roswell's art.
	Isn't it just amazing?
	Isn't it awesome to hear Art Bell's voice again like that?
	Yes, it is.
	It's really, really quite nice.
	So, who is this, by the way?
	I didn't catch it if you said.
	It's Roswell's art.
	Oh, hey, hey, hey, hey.
	How's it going?
	So you did call in after all.
	It's great to hear your voice.
	All this time, I thought you were a man, by the way.
	Is that true?
	I swear to God, I thought you were a man all this time.
	I'm a man, too.
	Right on, whatever.
	Not only a man, but a big, beefy alpha male.
	I was very intimidated by you.
	I was expecting you to cuckhold me any moment.
	All my fears have just been alleviated.
	I told you.
	So, what brings you to the show?
	I mean, what were your impressions listening to that interview?
	I mean, it's nice to hear Art's voice, but we got a few insights into the new show that perhaps we didn't have before.
	I just have to say it was really nice.
	I listened to the interview last night with John Bachelor.
	And this one today was redacted.
	He seemed very relaxed, so it was really nice to hear him sound like that.
	I haven't yet heard the WABC interview, but I will say I haven't heard it yet, but I will say that it's going to be tough to top this because I just really appreciated the sort of conversational approach to it all.
	It was very loose and comfortable.
	Everybody seemed in their element.
	Even Redacted, as nervous as she should have been.
	Yeah, it was lovely.
	And also about the interview last night with John Batchelor, he actually seemed like not only did he hear Art Bell once, but he seemed to kind of be a fan of his as well.
	I think any real radio person is an Art Bell fan, right?
	I mean, is that true?
	I mean, I wouldn't.
	Yeah.
	Well, I did hear a couple people alluded to the idea that John Batchelor kind of went a little bit fanboyish on art and maybe art was a little embarrassed.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, that's what I heard a couple of times.
	Kind of towards the end, Art Bell kind of turned the tables and started asking John Bell, I mean, I'm sorry, John Batchelor questions.
	I'm going to have to download that.
	He started doing the Art Bell show on the John Bachelor show.
	So I thought it was kind of cool.
	Oh, what?
	Well, I was just going to tell, I was going to unceremoniously hang up on you, but you sound like there's more you want to say.
	I did.
	Art mentioned about the timing machine he got.
	And I remember reading on the internet some person tried to get the same time machine, and it was like this time machine you put between your legs.
	And I don't know how to do something with it, apparently.
	And to get the time machine, he had to go through these really weird, like, you know, he meets somebody in a parking lot to get the time machine.
	And he sort of used it.
	And then the next day, he goes to the refrigerator and there's ice cream, like ice cream container in there, and it wasn't there before.
	And so he thought that maybe he had a time slip or something.
	So what you're saying is like a different dimension.
	So if what you're saying is that if time travel ever becomes reality, there could potentially be free ice cream in it all for all of us.
	Well, no, it's the future I want.
	Yeah, there's free ice cream involved with time travel that really need to get on the screen.
	You don't even travel through time.
	It's just you get ice cream.
	I didn't even hear chocolate.
	I don't think it was even chocolate ice cream, though.
	But, you know, the problem I had with the article I read was, yeah, you know, the guy, okay, so this weird thing happened.
	So all of a sudden there's ice cream in his refrigerator.
	And he's like, well, you know, I don't really want to use the device again because, you know, it's kind of scary.
	You put it between your legs.
	And I guess, you know.
	Well, if I'm going to use a time machine, it's not going between my legs.
	I don't need to be entering a temporal nexus from my groin first.
	Exactly.
	And I guess that was his, but, you know, this guy said he was a teacher.
	And, you know, you're, okay, so you've got this device that you think now has just changed dimensions for you.
	And you're not going to study it again.
	By the way, what kind of phone are you calling from?
	Is this a Samsung S3 or something?
	Is it bad?
	That could be one of the worst phones ever.
	It's just awesome.
	Oh, it sucks because I was hoping that the first time I called in, I sound really good.
	Right next time.
	Well, when I asked you that, I totally expected you to say iPhone because the iPhone is notoriously not a particularly great phone.
	Thanks for the call, by the way.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hey, this is Robin Shine.
	Hi, Robin.
	Shine.
	And by the way, listen, I'm going to tell you something first.
	The first time you ever called into this show and you said this is shine, I'm thinking, shine, shine, who the hell is this woman?
	But that was because your name on Bellgab, you spell C-H-I-N-E.
	And I never articulated that mentally as shine.
	I was saying it to myself as Shine or Chine or I don't know what I was doing.
	Well, I don't know what it was.
	It was a typo and my keypad on my phone jammed on me.
	Well, I would ask that you go back and fix that.
	And I hit send, and I just said, I don't even know what that word is, but it'll work.
	So, Sean, what do you think about the interview?
	Well, you know, Redacted, I'm not going to stand long because there's many people I'm sure that want to call in.
	You know, I just had a lovely moment just listening over my radio of you and Art.
	And I think, and I love the backstory of you and Aldos there at the house to kind of set it up and the feel of it.
	You did, it was such a lovely flow.
	And as Jaz mentioned, a conversation, a flow.
	I feel like there's a butt coming.
	I feel like there's a butt coming.
	You're going to do something.
	You're going to cancel your Belgab account.
	What are you doing?
	Really wonderful.
	It was really, I really enjoyed it.
	And it was some aspects of it.
	You know, you just don't hear often.
	It wasn't formulaic and it didn't feel, you know, like a formula was behind it.
	And I saw it, and your voice, Redacted, is so pleasant to listen to.
	It really is.
	The two of you and the way you communicated back and forth was beautiful.
	So I just wanted to say Bravo.
	It was fantastic.
	Thank you.
	So what you're saying is she didn't sound like Dave Nori.
	She's gone.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hi.
	Hey, what's going on?
	Hey, man.
	How are you doing?
	Pretty good.
	I called in on the last cast, too.
	Hey, I wanted to tell Redacted that was a great interview.
	And I thought she thought really quick on your feet and were picking up some things I had even forgotten about, like the eight-year-old boy called in when he was on the radio.
	Yeah, those little details, that was just a fantastic interview.
	Well, I think it was good because art was there.
	By the way, what are you calling in from?
	It sounds amazing.
	I'm in my office, actually.
	I stayed in.
	I was doing some work and stayed a little late, and I had a blue Yeti at my desk.
	And I guess I have about 100 square feet of soundproofing on the wall as well.
	So you're calling from a PC?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, it sounds great.
	I would like everyone from now on, if you're going to call this show, do so from a blue Yeti.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, if you want to be on the show, the number to call 623-242-CAST is 623-242-2278.
	If you would like to be on the show, what's the total count of radio stations that are going to carry Art's new show?
	22.
	It's 22.
	And I guess the 22, the two on top of the 20 is the latest two that were announced, I guess, right?
	Yes.
	Toronto was that one of them.
	And what was the other one?
	KXL Portland.
	Boy, I just, I'm so happy it's going to be on terrestrial radio.
	I feel like this thing to really take off, it needed that.
	You'd have to think that once the show starts and people hear the product, you'd think that the dominoes are going to start to fall and more stations will come on board.
	That's absolutely got to happen.
	And knowing that art was on WABC, being heard on 200 affiliates, and John Batchelor did say, I saw this mention on Bell Gab.
	Redacted mentioned this to me before the show today.
	He said that art's going to be heard after him on WABC.
	Did he not?
	He did say that they kind of went right past that.
	Yeah, he just glossed over it really quickly.
	I'm not quite sure entirely what that implies.
	I haven't heard the interview.
	I'm going to have to hear the context in which that was said.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hey, MV.
	Hi.
	How are you, sir?
	Good.
	Good.
	It's trust no one.
	Well, you sound wonderful.
	Great.
	I followed your advice and used my PC to call in.
	Well, that's great.
	You sound lovely.
	What can we do you for?
	I just wanted to say it was really exciting to hear both Redacted's and John Bachelor's interview within the space of 24 hours.
	We had no art for two years.
	That's it.
	I know.
	You know, and now we have two interviews within a day.
	I'm sure I'm saying the same thing everybody's feeling, but it's like so exciting to hear both of them.
	It's a little overwhelming to hear that much art bell in such a short span of time after such a long drought, is it not?
	Exactly.
	In a week, you're going to have five more.
	Five.
	Oh, yeah, I know.
	It's going to get to the point where every night, starting at what time is the show going to start on my end?
	11 p.m.
	Plus, it's going to be 9 p.m. Pacific, right?
	So 11 p.m. Central Time.
	So I'm going to be having seizures literally five nights a week now.
	It's going to be wonderful.
	Okay, so Art says in the chat right now that is not on WABC yet.
	No, not yet, but John Bachelor said going to be.
	Why would he say that?
	I mean, he's a learned, studied, professional radio broadcaster.
	I can't imagine Bachelor would say something like that if things weren't locked up.
	He said that.
	I saw somebody type it on Belgab, and Redacted mentioned it to me before the show today.
	When I heard him say that, I just assumed he meant that art will be after him time-wise, not necessarily on WABC.
	I'm going to see what he's referring to.
	So he didn't say on WABC.
	That's not the impression I got after that.
	He just said after me.
	Yeah.
	Okay, well, I retract everything I said, and I've wasted everybody's time.
	Thank you.
	I'm Michael Van Dieven.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Go ahead.
	No, I really think you as the model or the admin of Belgab should be listening to Art Bell content.
	Well, I mean, I have a wife who's about to explode.
	She looks like a tick, and I have to give her foot rubs probably every 32 minutes.
	And it's just a disaster around my house.
	And my mind is mush.
	My mind is spaghetti with everything.
	Oh, it's been brought to my attention that you're not paying attention, Michael Van Dieven.
	Not really.
	I mean, I'm sort of on the periphery with all this right now.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hi, MV.
	It's on screen.
	How are you?
	Oh, hi, unscreen caller.
	I'm glad you called.
	Unscreened caller.
	How are you tonight?
	Very well.
	Very well.
	And that was a wonderful interview.
	I thought you did a great job.
	I thought you shouldn't doubt yourself.
	I'm glad it aired.
	It was beautiful.
	And it was so much fun listening to it.
	Well, there's something appealing about someone who does doubt themselves, though.
	And I find something appreciable in that.
	That's one of the things I guess I like about Redacted.
	She's not just, I'm God's gift.
	I'm the one.
	There's none of that crap.
	That's what I always liked about her.
	No, it was very laid back.
	And Art got to speak, and Redacted got to speak.
	It was like listening to a conversation between friends.
	I really, really enjoyed it.
	And I'm glad that he's going to do things a little differently in the new show, keep us on our toes.
	And I would love, I would love, love, love for him to come back to WABC and follow John Bachelor again, just like the old days.
	That would be great.
	You know what would be really cool?
	We heard this interview that Redacted did today, but what would really be cool is if she could get an interview with Art Bell.
	I mean, if she could interview him.
	Oh, wait, never mind.
	Unscreen Caller, I love you.
	You're one of my favorite Bell Gab users.
	You're also one of my favorite callers.
	You and Treading Water, for some reason, I feel like the two of you kind of go together.
	I don't know if you've ever even spoken to one another.
	You may even hate one another.
	But for some reason, are you good?
	Because when I think of unscreen caller, for some reason, I think of treading water.
	I just, these two associations that I don't know where that happened or how they got linked.
	Like peas and carrots, the two of you.
	I am honored by the comparison.
	Thank you.
	I think the two of you should essentially fire all of us from the gab cast and start hosting it yourselves.
	Just the two of you.
	Okay, unscreen caller.
	I'll say bye to you.
	Goodbye.
	She doesn't know what an honor that is to be told goodbye.
	She just dismissively said, okay, bye, whatever.
	What's your problem?
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Wow, that was quick.
	Hey, one of the things I wanted to mention that that interview that Redacted and Art did, that was a one-on-one.
	That was face-to-face.
	That makes such a difference in terms of the delay you get on the phone sometimes and the internet.
	And the lack of vision.
	It was an awesome interview.
	The lack of visual cues.
	Are you able to hear me?
	I sometimes get the impression if I speak when someone else is speaking, they can't hear me.
	I was going to say that the lack of visual cues, that's one of the problems we face when we're doing this show together is we have the inherent latency of VoIP communication, and then on top of that, the fact that we can't see each other.
	So I'm glad you emphasized the fact that she was sitting in the same room with him because I'm not sure we really did emphasize that at all.
	That was the key to that interview.
	They could see each other.
	They were feeling each other's breath.
	They were breathing each other, you know, the same breath that each other was exhaling.
	Oh, I don't know about that.
	Redacted, did you place a hand on Art's knee?
	Tell the chat.
	No, no, no.
	You understand what I mean.
	There's that rapport that you develop when somebody's right next to you in the room with you versus you and me talking even right now.
	But the other thing that would help Art is to do the visual Skype.
	I think that would enhance the communication at some point.
	Visual with whom?
	Well, with any of his callers.
	I don't know.
	Art wants to be able to pick his nose during the show, and I can't blame him at all for that.
	Okay.
	All right.
	But he used to do a visual, or he did a TV.
	Art did TV before Dave did.
	I remember in the 90s, Art having his video streams.
	Yes.
	And you had to have, I believe it was Real Planner G2 if you wanted to hear that.
	And it lasted for a month.
	You know how that goes.
	I think what Nicola was suggesting was that the people that call in will be able to be seen by Art.
	Is that correct?
	Well, I think he meant for Art to be seen by them as well.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	White Crow.
	You have to at least put on a little bit of a voice.
	Yeah, you can't just go, this is White Crow.
	That doesn't work.
	I don't know what you're doing.
	This is Treading Water.
	Hi, Tread.
	Thank you for being so nice to me.
	Good God, am I going to die?
	I told you I was dying, right?
	I'm not familiar with you, but carry on.
	Oh, I love the interview.
	Oh, my God, Redacted, you rock so bad.
	Oh, God.
	This is going to be so wonderful.
	Isn't it?
	I even took a day off work, which I just started for a new job, and I took a day off work on Tuesday.
	Wait, you just started a new job, and you took a day off of work to hear this?
	I am honored.
	No, no, so I can listen to Art Bell on Monday.
	On Monday.
	Okay, well, then that's perfectly acceptable.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm so excited.
	And now to know that you're going to be on there, too, sometimes.
	That's just, I'm just beside myself.
	Did you tell your boss why you're taking a day off?
	No, no, no, no, no.
	I told him there was a sickness in the family.
	Well, if you told him I'm taking a day off because there's this talk radio show I need to listen to, he would know exactly where the sickness in the family resides.
	No, I'm still on my probationary period.
	I have to be.
	You didn't just come out and tell him that you need to listen to Graham Hancock talk about his ayahuasca adventures.
	No.
	Make that good first impression on your new boss.
	No, no, I don't think so.
	He thinks I'm a professional person.
	I'm very glad that you enjoyed it and the whole purpose of it was to get people excited.
	And from what I can see here, it looks like that's happening.
	Oh, yes.
	The women in the bellgab are just, we're all down with it.
	We're wonderful.
	We just think it's great.
	Treading water, I love you, sweetie.
	Oh, I love you too.
	Okay.
	Have a great day.
	Bye, Sugar.
	That's Treading Water.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Okay, no, you're not.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Oh, my goodness.
	How's it going, everybody?
	Oh, we're lovely.
	How are you, sir?
	Yeah, this is Chefist.
	Oh, hi, Chefist.
	Chef.
	Yeah, I'm about.
	How are you doing?
	Yeah.
	Oh, man.
	What an interview.
	Dave is on Suicide Watch.
	I'd say he's on Suicide Watch after the WABC thing last night.
	This is just icing on the cake.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah, he's in four-point restraints for sure.
	Now, I might be your first caller.
	I'm about six pints in, so I'll try to be as clear and audible as possible while making.
	I'm calling from the saloon in the haunted hotel of the Grand Bisbee Hotel in Bisbee, Arizona.
	I was going to guess that you were calling from a submarine floating around the Edmund Fitzgerald.
	I was wrong.
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, if you're a Gordon Lightfoot fan, just go to YouTube and look up an old Second City skit where Gordon Lightfoot sings every song ever written.
	Was the ship named after that song or the other way?
	I have not figured that out.
	That's awesome.
	Well, I just wanted to call in and say, Red, you did an incredible job.
	It was an amazing interview.
	And you know what?
	I'm at a bar here listening with my girlfriend.
	I got this expander port so she can hear along with me.
	And yeah, it's rather pathetic, but we're having a good time.
	And thanks a lot for all this.
	And this is just amazing.
	My mind is blown.
	So you guys are doing an actual ghost hunt at this location?
	Yeah, we rented the captain's suite.
	It's actually this huge flat on the bottom floor right on the street.
	So you have to keep your door locked.
	If not, tourists come in and try to buy everything in your hotel room.
	So you it's it's supposed to be haunted.
	So I guess we'll find out tonight.
	Well, I hope that as you're trying to record EVPs, there's a little bit less ambient noise in the room.
	I'm sorry.
	That's why I'm going to make this short so I don't annoy everybody.
	You're not annoying me.
	I just don't want your EVPs to consist of glasses clinking.
	Well, that would be almost just like the baby drowning in the water EVP.
	It's cold in here.
	Clink.
	Hey, give me another Scotch neat.
	Hey.
	Where do I be the real EVP?
	You know, ghost thinking about the good times.
	Well, I wouldn't feel like that you would get one from a spirit asking for a drink.
	Yeah, give me a friggin' scotch, human.
	Well, the assumption has always been that whatever you were in this mortal existence, you continue to be on the other side.
	I don't know how much truth there is in that.
	I guess there's as much possibility in that assumption as there is anything else.
	None of us know.
	But I have to say that there are certain elements of this existence that if they don't exist in that other plane, well, I don't want to go.
	If you want to be on the show, the number to call 63-242Cast.
	It is 623-242-2278, if you want to be on the Gabcast.
	Well, I really just have to say what's about to happen on the 20th, it's the culmination of everything we really hoped for, starting with the inception of, well, really starting the day after Art stopped broadcasting regularly.
	But for me and a lot of people that I'm aware of, it particularly is the culmination of everything that the Bell Gab universe has been clamoring for for going on eight years now.
	This is it.
	What we've wanted is finally happening.
	Even in the run-up to Sirius XM, we, of course, we were excited, but at that time, even, I was hoping that Art was just going to go with it alone and do his own thing.
	And I kind of, there was a sort of a sigh of, you know, restrained disappointment when the announcement came down that it was going to be Sirius XM.
	And so this, what's getting ready to happen in two days from today, on July 20th, it really is the culmination of everything all of us wanted.
	And it's not going to get any better than this.
	And I hope that everyone realizes how awesome and special all of this is as it's happening right now in real time and appreciate all of this as it's going down.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello, this is Wit Co.
	Hello.
	What can we do for you?
	Did you say this is White Crow?
	No, this is Whit Cow, actually.
	I thought you said Wit Co.
	I was just totally confused.
	That's all right.
	Happy birthday, White Cow.
	What's it?
	Happy birthday.
	Oh, yes.
	Thank you very much.
	Oh, is it your birthday?
	This is the 20th is going to be my birthday.
	Well, then you didn't deserve that.
	Happy birthday.
	Why are you accepting it from people?
	Good grief.
	It's already been given to me.
	As long as he's on the air, it's going to be thrilling.
	It just doesn't seem right to me.
	That's not how my grandma raised me.
	Anyway, go ahead.
	What brings you to the show?
	No, I don't know.
	One of the main points I was going to get to was just how great Redacted was.
	If he ever needs a guest host, I think that's the thing.
	I think Redacted, after she gets over the shock of things, let's all talk about Redacted like she's not here.
	After she gets over the shock of things and starts to feel like she's in her own element doing what it is that she's doing, I see no reason that couldn't happen.
	Yeah, that was just amazing.
	And like everyone has been coming about, it was a conversation.
	It wasn't someone reading off of cue cards.
	It was not someone unprepared.
	It was absolutely an interview that turned into a conversation like they were sitting right in our living room having a conversation with us.
	Isn't that what a good interview is?
	It's just a conversation.
	You know, people get so wrapped up.
	I've got my cue cards here.
	Card number four has a question I'm going to ask at 17 seconds into the interview.
	And card number six, I'm not going to ask that.
	You know, you just want to sit down and have a conversation.
	Absolutely.
	Feels so much better.
	Works out so much more wonderfully.
	Things that weren't going to be discussed end up being discussed.
	What were you going to say, Redacted?
	Because I'd never done anything like that before.
	It really was just my interpretation of what a good interview should be.
	And I didn't know.
	I didn't have a rulebook to follow on how to prepare.
	So I just went with what I thought it should be.
	And I'm stunned right now by the reaction.
	Everybody's been very kind.
	We're all very disappointed.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	What's up, buddy?
	What's up, guy?
	Who's this?
	I'm Nachi Gambi.
	I'm Nachio, Buddy, friend.
	That's Chameleon.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Yeah, I was just calling because I had a little announcement too, but I wanted to wait until after.
	Of course, it's not going to pale in comparison.
	But by the way, good interview.
	That was really like, yeah, you can tell the natural flow is all in that.
	But yeah, I was just letting people know that I asked before the stream if I could get another person a subscription with my PayPal.
	And I was just wondering if that could be verified on here before I make an announcement?
	I don't see why you couldn't get someone a subscription to be a time traveler and then...
	I think the real question is, will the system that Keith is using allow the creation of multiple accounts from one PayPal?
	That's what I'm kind of wondering, is if all they need to do is just go to the email, or if maybe I can just send...
	Okay, so here's what I'm going to do.
	As a last minute thing, because there's some of us that are doing a lot of the blitzing up in the front, and there's a lot of us who are doing a lot of behind the scenes stuff.
	And as my kind of last-minute behind-the-scenes thing here is I'm going to buy 10 people a time traveler subscription for their first month.
	I think you could just put in there the email that you want the subscription to go to, and then I think that person will get the login.
	Yeah, that's what I was thinking, is if I just send the $50 and then just send a list of emails.
	So I was wondering if there were, you know, 10 people that didn't have access to PayPal or, you know, that...
	I was talking...
	I was talking to someone who said you're just doing this as a goof and you're going to cancel the subs after about three days.
	I don't see how I can.
	I mean, how does that work?
	I don't know.
	I was a little non-plussed myself.
	Very kind.
	That is nice.
	I thought of doing this for everyone who participated in the Blitz.
	I don't know how.
	I just figured everyone had signed up already in that, you know, in that circle.
	So it's like, who's going to need this?
	Who doesn't already have this already?
	And I just figured the people who didn't have PayPal or access to it would still benefit from it at some point.
	Ask everyone right now to send you a PM if they can't get a subscription.
	Cool.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, guys, my name's Chameleon80, or Cam, in the chat, K-H-A-M.
	If you can't use, wait, what does that say?
	Oh, no.
	There's no preferred.
	It's just whoever can, you know, get at me first.
	Do they have to prove that they can't afford it?
	Do they have to send you their tax bill or something?
	Well, I mean, I think the way they have it set up is once you start the PayPal thing.
	And I don't know if Keith will work this out to where after the initial payment, I think of what, 45 days or something like that for the first month and a couple weeks before that or something like that?
	I think what you need to do is to verify.
	You need to tell people, look, if you want this, you send me a picture of you wearing a barrel with straps.
	Otherwise, pound it.
	Yeah.
	I probably should have verified whether or not I could actually get multiple subscriptions with the same PayPal before announcing this.
	But I thought since Art was in the chat, he might be able to just be like, hey, yeah, you can.
	It's all good.
	Give 10 people, you know, the gift of life.
	The gift of life.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	The offer's there.
	I just, you guys got to figure out the logistics how it's going to work.
	I'm sure there's going to be a mechanism for all of this.
	I mean, we're in the infancy of this whole operation.
	Art and Keith are going to have some bumps along the way.
	They're going to have to figure out what works, what doesn't work, what the best way is to do this.
	And we're probably going to be a good six months into this whole thing before everything is really fine-tuned and properly oiled and everything is exactly what everybody wants it to be.
	But I'm sure there have been so many people asking about giving gift subscriptions.
	There's got to be something in place for that.
	Yeah, I just figure with such little time left for the actual time traveler option, I just wanted to give 10 people who had no shot at it, a shot at it.
	So if there's a way we can figure it out before that, you know, option goes away, that would be really awesome.
	Should I make like a post on the forum or something about it?
	No, we would ask that you not post on Bellgab anymore.
	Just stop it.
	Redacted, what were you going to say?
	Same thing.
	You already said it.
	More and more people are asking for the gift subscription option.
	So I imagine Keith will look into that.
	Jasmund?
	I think the issue as it currently is is that with PayPal and the way we're doing the subscriptions, it auto-renews each month until or unless you cancel it.
	So I'm not sure how the gifting will work with that setup unless – go ahead.
	Those of you who have signed up, you're paying $5 a month, but I have it on good authority that the subscription is going to go up to $76.23 next month.
	So get in while the getting's good.
	No, I think the idea was bandied about that it might go up to $6.66 a month.
	But keep in mind, anyone who's gotten the $5 subscription, they'll be locked in at that price.
	Does anyone know, has the info been released?
	Can it be publicly discussed how many subs they have now?
	Because I know they had like 575 on day one, and day one was quite some time back.
	Yeah, it was.
	I can't say anything.
	Do you know?
	I can't say anything.
	I'm not asking you to say the number.
	I'm just saying, do you know?
	My knowledge can neither be confirmed nor denied, sir.
	What's your security clearance?
	Hey guys, speaking of redacted knowing everything, okay?
	What about Art Bell Takes Times Square?
	How cool is that?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, did you guys see that?
	That's on artbell.com.
	Did you see that?
	I know you're not paying attention, MV, but while you weren't paying attention, a lot of us Bell Gabbers got together and we got Art's show announced on the Reuters, Thompson Reuters sign in Times Square, and there's a picture of it on artbell.com if you want to go look.
	Well, how did that happen?
	I mean, what are the logistics of making that happen?
	I can't tell you.
	It's called witchcraft.
	I'm looking here.
	I don't see it.
	Is there supposed to be a picture?
	It's on artbell.com.
	It says Times Square promotion.
	Yeah, I don't see it.
	If it's not on the main page, I. Should be on the main page.
	Everybody PM and V a picture right away.
	No, there's no Times Square anything on the main page.
	I'll get you a link in the moment.
	Well, good grief.
	This is really, this thing is, I mean, yeah, we had our blitz and all of that, but this thing's gone way beyond what I think most of us viewed as the optimal conclusion here.
	There's the link if you want to click on it.
	I want to hear your reaction to this.
	Okay.
	It's in the chat, Andy, now.
	I am.
	Okay.
	I will admit that I was involved in making that happen.
	The rest of the Bell Gabbers that contributed to that are a little too shy to be named, so I won't name them, but I helped to make that happen.
	Okay, do you mean to suggest that this is in some way akin to Goetzy showing up on certain digital signs?
	Is that the mechanism in place here for this to have happened?
	No, there was no hacking involved.
	No.
	Okay, that's what I was asking.
	We did this through legitimate channels.
	Although it would be cool if it was a hack.
	Boy, that really is something.
	Look at that.
	That's just awesome.
	You're welcome, sir.
	Well, that really is something.
	I just am kind of speechless as to what's happened in the last 24 to 48 hours and what's coming.
	By the way, I'm going to have to.
	Has Bellgab been running okay as far as you guys can tell?
	Yeah.
	Has it been hesitating?
	Not yet.
	I'm sure.
	Are you talking about is it able to handle the load of people visiting?
	Yeah.
	No issues.
	Well, even so, I've called the hosting company today, and I'm going to...
	Right now, we're on a dual-core processor with 4 gigs of RAM.
	I'm going to have that up to a quad-core processor with 8 gigs of RAM.
	And I'm hoping to get that done before the show starts on Monday.
	We'll see if I'm able to pull that off or not.
	But I just want to be as future-proofed here as possible because there have been so many instances where things happened in the Art Bell universe and Bellgab just had problems coping.
	And I just want to go ahead and nip those possibilities in the bud out front as much as possible.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello, all.
	This is the general.
	What's up there, buddy?
	How you been?
	I'm great.
	How are you guys doing?
	I'm about 8.2.
	It's a good day.
	No, I just want.
	Yeah.
	I just wanted to suggest, and V, you really need to time the birth of your children better.
	This is really a bad time to be having a baby.
	I told my wife, listen, they make corks of all sizes.
	We can rep, you know, just like, you know, those things you put around your knee when it's sprained.
	You just tightly wrap it.
	We can wrap you up.
	This baby does not have to come out right now.
	Can't we just add it?
	Good couple of weeks.
	No, it's happening.
	And when the doctor said July 23rd, that's going to be your day.
	I just sort of, a little piece of me died inside, General.
	Well, that's all right.
	And you've got another one on the way as well, too, don't you?
	Yes, we do.
	Well, congratulations to you.
	Yeah, our timing is a little better.
	It's in January.
	I think things will be settled down by then.
	Well, I never thought I'd get married, let alone have two kids.
	So I'm pretty excited to see how that is running around chasing after two little animals.
	I'm sure you are as well.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, it's a blast.
	I love having kids.
	Hey, I wanted to ask you, and everybody there, what role do you think Belgab really played in all of this?
	Because I think that if it weren't for Belgab, that Art might not have seen that he had such a loyal following.
	And places like Belgab, I know that there's some Facebook groups devoted to Art Bell fans and other things, but because of the presence of hardcore fans on the Internet, I think it helped Art to want to come back.
	Because five, six years ago, I really felt like there was no chance that he would ever come back.
	He was fed up, and it just wasn't going to happen.
	Aldous had a lot of questions.
	Yeah, I had this conversation with the Redacted, I believe, somewhere on our long strange trip to Perunp.
	And also, you know, I should say that we didn't just do an interview.
	We were really treated nicely, and we spent quite a bit of couch time where I was mostly checking out the lava lamp.
	And Art and Redacted chatted, and Aaron said it, and Asia came in and out.
	And it was nice to talk about, like, hey, here we are.
	We're from the internet.
	Look what happened.
	And I do believe that I did call Envy a genius at some point in our conversation.
	But one of my favorite things, yeah, here I go.
	One of my favorite things about the afternoon was I'm thinking to myself, here I am sitting here listening to these two chatting.
	I'm like, really?
	So I finally had to pipe up and say, hey, you know, since I'm here, I can ask you anything.
	I just want to know one thing.
	Do you ever like cruise the other threads on Belgab?
	Oh, great question.
	Yeah, that is.
	What did he say?
	Because I really wanted to know.
	So Redacted, what did he say?
	He said something like, unfortunately, I have to be on the flogging thread.
	Yeah.
	That was about it.
	So what do you think about what kind of give us some insight as to the conversation you guys had, your thoughts on where Belgab plays into this whole manifestation?
	Aldous is of the opinion that Belgab had a significant influence, and I kind of like to think that.
	But at the same time, we're talking about a man who has done radio all of his life and he doesn't really know how to do anything else.
	So I'm glad that Belgab is there to give input, but I think he would have done this anyway.
	But here we are, and it's perfect timing.
	And everybody gets to give their inputs.
	You know, it was a really great thing to put up how to name the show to a vote.
	And Belgab got to vote on that.
	And the winning vote was picked.
	And it's an honor just to be a part of that.
	Well, I think of it as like Belgab was the oven that was left on preview for two years, hoping that there'd be like some love pie to cook up.
	And Art was aware of that.
	But while we were there, one of the things that I sensed was a lot of love, just, you know, for his life and for what he's doing and his home and family.
	And that's what makes Art real.
	And when we went in his studio, you could just get that he loves doing radio.
	I mean, he turned on the ham.
	He pushed buttons, played bumper music, and it was fun.
	So I think that's the essence of what we're all jazzed about and waiting for.
	And that would have brought him back, is what I'm saying.
	His love was already there.
	We just kind of kept it warm.
	That's a great way to put it.
	I feel like Belgab kind of provided the atmospheric energy needed to push this thing over the finish line.
	And Art says right now in the chat, Belgab was giant in promotion, no question about it.
	But not just promotion.
	I mean, in terms of affecting Art's way of thinking about the idea of him actually returning.
	I mean, I think it maybe Art wasn't so aware of just how fervent the fandom was out there.
	Like I said, radio emergency.
	And B, you are referring to the pre-Sirius days, even of the series.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, just from the start, from 2008 going forward, even before Art knew Belgab existed.
	I feel like there was.
	Sorry, I just inhaled my own spit.
	I hate it when that happens.
	I just feel like there's some sort of an energetic pulse that Belgab was responsible for.
	And I don't know.
	Anybody can say what they want, but I kind of feel like this thing might not be happening right now had the Belgab community not been there, not been cheerleading things as they were, hadn't been there making the observations they were.
	And I do think there's an element of that there.
	And I don't think the general is alone in making that observation.
	I think a few other people feel that way as well.
	But that's neither here nor there.
	I mean, as long as Art's back on the air, I don't care how it happens.
	I don't care what the nucleus of everything was or who takes any credit for anything.
	I'm just so happy that he's going to be back.
	It feels like the universe is properly aligned.
	Agreed.
	You guys said that you got to meet Aaron and Asia.
	Did you get to meet the cats?
	Yes.
	Abby Dos is a beautiful kitty with big long whiskers and very affectionate and got to meet Dolly as well.
	Hey, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hi there.
	Hey, this is Pate.
	I'm sober and driving around in horrible cell phone coverage land trying to listen.
	Is this a customer service line or am I on the air?
	Well, we can attempt to give you customer service.
	I can't necessarily say how satisfied you're going to be at the end of it all, though.
	Your bill's overdue.
	I've heard.
	I'll tell you that.
	Oh, the check is in the mail.
	I say again.
	I've looked up your account when I saw your phone number and your call come in, sir.
	And I'm here to tell you that your bill's overdue and we want that $22.73 in about 72 hours, or we're going to cut you off.
	I think I have like five minutes on this prepaid card left.
	I'm not sure.
	Want to check that out?
	No.
	I was supposed to meet my customer service complaint second.
	I really wanted to say a yay.
	Yay!
	Big yay.
	It was awesome.
	Heard John Batchelor's show interview last night and yours read tonight when I had signal coverage.
	So you guys better put this podcast up or I will be mightily upset.
	Dang it.
	Dang it.
	And we might post it.
	I don't know.
	No one's decided.
	Curses.
	I guess I get what I get.
	But anyway, I am working and usually don't try to listen when I'm working because I might get in a wreck or something.
	Too dangerous.
	What do you do?
	I just want to call in and say howdy.
	What?
	What do you do?
	I'm in logistics, and it involves the mathematical pie concept, you know.
	Oh, my, this sounds exciting.
	Continue.
	You have the most boring job ever.
	I'm starting the fusion of theoretical collusions and what the synergies resulting from those could possibly.
	Speaking of, one of the machines is kind of eating up here, and I'm going to have to get offline and deal with it.
	But I just want to say, great interview, Red.
	That was awesome.
	Awesome, awesome.
	And yeah.
	Thank you kindly, sir.
	Thanks, Pate.
	I'm hanging up on myself, MV.
	You can't fire me.
	I'm going to say bye to you.
	Bye, Pate.
	All right.
	All right.
	Bye, Sugar.
	Okay, that was Pate.
	You know, he's far more coherent when he calls than he is when he posts.
	Is he not?
	Let's all talk badly about him now that he's gone.
	He did say that he was sober, and I believe every time he posts, I think he's a little bit drunk.
	Yeah, he'll post and he'll replace all consonants with commas.
	Just bullcrap.
	Anyway, if you want to be on the show, the number to call is 623-242-CAST-623-242-2278 if you want to be on the gabcast.
	I will try and get this episode posted as soon as possible.
	I know a lot of people are going to want to hear this, and you've got to get while the getting's good.
	So we'll try and get this posted close.
	We're also uploading it to YouTube.
	Redacted and I have created quite a nice graphic to go along with just the interview, not the gabcast portion.
	So it will be up there shortly.
	Well, anybody got anything else?
	What do you want to talk about?
	Because otherwise, I'm going to kill this thing.
	Where's Onin?
	I think Onin has disappeared.
	He probably had to go off on a top secret mission.
	He left in the middle of the interview, I think.
	Another one of his clients slitting their own jugglers.
	You need to tell those people, Onin, listen, I'm trying to do a podcast.
	If you could wait to paint the floor red just a little while.
	You can refer him to paranormaldate.com.
	That helps, right?
	That's where I met my wife, proudly, I say.
	Paranormal date.
	I appreciate everyone's kindness and appreciate MV you allowing this and Art Bell for allowing all this to happen.
	I allowed it.
	I will allow Art Bell to be heard on the Gabcast.
	Redacted, you were great.
	You were an awesome traveling companion.
	It was fun.
	And we still get to go see Rush.
	Yes, we do.
	Yes, we do.
	That's going to be on the 25th.
	It's going to be a lot of fun, but I don't know about more fun than this.
	Throw some duct tape up there on the stage and see if you can get Getty Lee to shut that hole in his face.
	That might help things.
	I don't know.
	That might be a tall order.
	Anyway, you guys, it's been a pleasure.
	I'm glad we were able to do this on the Gabcast.
	And that's it.
	I hope that everybody listening has a lovely evening.
	Thank you for listening live.
	If you weren't able to hear the Art Bell interview with Art and Redacted in its entirety, this is going to be posted for your downloading pleasure on ufo ship.com.
	Just go there.
	You can download the episode directly, or you can subscribe to the podcast, and it'll just be automatically delivered to your mobile device every time a new episode is released.
	So how about that, huh?
	See you guys.
	We'll do some housekeeping, MV.
	Tomorrow, before the pre-show, before Arts, sorry, before his test show, Bateman and I and a few special guests will be doing a three-hour sort of just lead-in to that.
	And then I believe, MV, are we doing on Monday night prior to the show?
	We're going to do pre-show parties, bell gabbers.
	Be there.
	Okay, well, I'm going to be drinking Monday during that show.
	I hope you guys will do so as well and not leave me as the only drunk this time again, as you did last time.
	We're going to drink.
	Yeah, sure.
	It'll be great.
	And then I'm the only guy that shows up to the party in Otoga.
	That's wonderful.
	I'm trying to be a responsible broadcaster here.
	Broadcaster.
	Anyway, you guys have fun.
	We'll see you later.

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