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	The Gabcast, a podcast about Bellgab.com.
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	Hey, everybody, this is the Gabcast.
	I'm Eddie Dean.
	We've got Jazz Moon and B-Deb with us tonight.
	Owen had some sort of emergency, so he couldn't join us tonight.
	We couldn't get a hold or get control of the live stream this evening.
	What we're doing is a pre-recorded show.
	What's up, guys?
	Are you with me?
	I have a question.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	If we do a Cabcast, it's almost like the old question of like a tree falls in the forest and there's no one there to hear it.
	Does it still make a noise or whatever?
	Right.
	I kind of feel like we're doing an experiment right now with the Gabcast.
	We are the pre-recorded Gabcast.
	And of course, nobody can hear us right now because what is the date today?
	May 26, 2014.
	It's Memorial Day, by the way, and it's like 5.15 Pacific time right now.
	So we're just trying this out.
	We don't even have to really make an effort.
	It's like being in high school again.
	We can just say whatever we want.
	We can openly taunt people in the chat room and mock them because they don't know what we're talking about.
	Because they have no idea.
	Jazz, did you post, you posted the number in the chat room, right?
	I did.
	Perhaps I'll post it again.
	Okay.
	So just let them know that we actually started the show.
	And if they'd like to call in and talk with us, they can.
	We toyed with the idea of possibly having everybody in the chat room, which there's about, I don't know, 10, 15 people in the chat room.
	We thought about having everybody call into the number and I can put them all on group call and they can just listen to the show while on hold.
	Or we could just have a giant Skype conference where 15 people call in and they can all just talk at the same time.
	Well, so if we did that, would you be able to mute them if they got too rowdy?
	Oh, yeah.
	But I mean, who gives a shit if it gets rowdy?
	Because this is a pre-recorded show.
	We can just edit it out in post-production anyway.
	So is this like a sex line?
	We can do a sex line too, man.
	That would be great.
	And I think that I'm probably, my microphone volume is way overbearing.
	Am I like way too loud, overbearing in your guys's headphones?
	I'm used to it.
	No more than usual.
	No more than usual.
	Thank you, sir.
	Thank you so much.
	We have a caller.
	What's up?
	Who's on the phone?
	Can't hear anything.
	Could you hear anything, you guys?
	Get a real phone, jackass.
	Who was that?
	I couldn't even hear him.
	That was David.
	McDouche Master McDouche.
	I have no idea.
	Who cares?
	It was it SR-71 again?
	It may have been sounded like fine art or no, maybe it sounded like C3770 pilot or whatever his name was.
	Wow, it's all the same person, isn't it?
	No, no, those are three separate guys.
	Three guys, one asshole.
	Kind of brings a tear to my eye because we're actually getting pranked now here at the Gabcast.
	Oh, wow.
	It's like we've grown up.
	He at least could have done, he at least could have done a nice bubba booey.
	I know.
	What's wrong?
	That guy's not a very good prank caller.
	He actually called about two minutes before the top of the hour, two minutes before five Pacific time this evening, and tried to prank us then.
	We weren't even actually on the air or doing the show.
	So I'm posting science jokes in the chat room tonight.
	You know, I'm really hesitant about talking about what we had on the agenda tonight because I really wanted to have Onin chime in on.
	We were going to talk about time travel and John Teeter.
	And I really wanted to have Onin in on this conversation, but I guess it's just too bad for him, right?
	So we just keep going, just move along with what we were going to plan on talking about anyway.
	Or should I just play audio clips tonight?
	Just random shit.
	Just open up a YouTube channel and just play.
	Whatever's there.
	Sounds good to me.
	As long as it's funny.
	Really?
	Is that what you want to do?
	You could just play clips of George on your soundboard.
	Yeah, we could do that.
	Try to simulate an actual episode of Coast to Coast using the George Norrie soundboard.
	Okay, so you guys want to be the phone caller?
	Sure.
	Jazz, do you want to do it?
	No, you go ahead.
	So just you have a cell phone, just call into the number and you'll actually be a phone caller.
	And I can try to interview you using the George Nori soundboard.
	You know the number?
	623.
	Hold on, Chief.
	242-2278.
	Oh, I didn't get it.
	I failed.
	623.
	623.
	2422.
	Yes.
	Got it?
	623-242.
	2278.
	All right.
	Oh, we've got two callers.
	Wait a second.
	I don't know which one to answer.
	Oh, you can answer both.
	Yeah, but I don't know which one.
	It's your pick, man.
	Which one?
	BW.
	It's either one.
	Oh, okay.
	Are you both of them?
	I am indeed.
	Well, I was wondering if I could talk to that George Norrie fella.
	I got a question for him.
	I got a leprechaun sighting I want to talk to him about.
	Oh, wait.
	This fucking thing is.
	Oh, great.
	And now my soundboard just fucking locked up.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	Sorry, someone did a fucking curse on us, man.
	Yeah, runtime error number 16.
	Expression too complex.
	Oh, shit.
	There's no way that any expression on the Gabcast tonight is too complex.
	Don't think there's any expression that George Nori could make that could be too complex.
	So you must have the wrong George.
	All right.
	So let me open up the soundboard again.
	Yeah, this show is doomed.
	It might not even see the light of day.
	Thanks for calling.
	Go ahead.
	Well, I was just wondering if I talked to George Norr about this hero leprechaun thing I seen last night.
	I was huffing paint.
	What's that?
	All right, very good.
	Thank you.
	Well, I hadn't told the story yet, George.
	So you just wait five fucking minutes.
	I'll tell it.
	All right.
	Fine.
	I was just up and paint in my bedroom, and lo and behold, there's this little leprechaun thing come through there looking like old little green Nazi type guy.
	And I turned over to my wife and I was like, do you see that?
	And she was like, shut the fuck up.
	I hate you.
	And then at that point, the leprechaun ran out of the room.
	I don't see what's funny about this, George.
	Good point.
	Well, so what do you think about that, George?
	Does that seem like a kind of thing you'd expect, maybe see from a Zachariah Sitchin or what's that other fella that talks about the fairies all the time?
	Can we assume, other than interpretation, that something happened?
	Well, I believe the story I just told you that something did happen.
	I've seen a leprechaun lunch in the room.
	I want to get your thoughts on that.
	Do you?
	George, so you don't have an opinion about the validity of the leprechaun size then.
	Good point.
	Stand by.
	Do they look the same?
	It's another amazing story.
	Oh, what these guys, the speakers out in the background.
	Yeah.
	How'd that go?
	I think there's a lag between when I play the clip and then when you hear it.
	How was the experience on the phone?
	You get involved in all of this.
	I was told you I was huffing paint, George.
	God damn.
	See, I don't have that.
	But your store is closed on Sundays.
	That's why I was huffing paint.
	Kind of exciting, isn't it?
	See, no, that's good.
	Where are you getting those clips?
	I'm getting them from the George Norrie soundboard.
	I think it was Ziznack, was it?
	Ziznack who posted.
	Was that the web page?
	Yeah, the web page.
	Project Gollum.
	Yeah, that was...
	Is that still happening?
	Can we assume that something happened?
	Yes, George, you're so fucking deep.
	I was just waiting.
	Here's what's happening.
	Here's what's happening.
	I'm a host.
	I'm hosting.
	And I'm not doing a very good job of it.
	There you go.
	All right, give me your mother back.
	Oh, yeah.
	I was waiting for that one to jump in.
	Oh, yeah, George.
	That one would have been good.
	My mom, George, you asshole.
	What's that, Jazz?
	WR250 and unscreen caller say they've been trying to call.
	Unfortunately, they called right when B-dub was on the line, so we just sabotaged having fucking people call it because I didn't want to add them to the conference because I didn't know if they were SR-71 or not.
	So, yeah, tell them to call back in.
	Tell them the lines are open, ladies and gentlemen, for this episode of the Gabcast, everybody.
	Ah, yes.
	What?
	It has to have somehow.
	It has to have started.
	Like, oh, my God.
	He is so bad.
	He is so fucking horrible.
	Maybe that's what we can do.
	We can just bitch about George Nori tonight.
	How bad he is, how terrible he is.
	I don't know.
	I'd like to try to salvage at least portions of this show to play to people since we kind of promised it to him.
	So I don't want to completely give it.
	Well, it's Friday.
	Welcome back.
	Well, it's Friday.
	Welcome back.
	Welcome back to what, George?
	Where have we been?
	Tell us.
	Or a diversion.
	Hello, you're on the air.
	This is Gabcast.
	It's WR250.
	Hey, what's up, man?
	Hey, just following into your lovely show that's a repeat tonight.
	I know.
	It's strange because we couldn't get a hold of the stream, so there's no way that we can actually broadcast to the numerous tens of people that are in the chat room tonight.
	But I'm glad you called, man.
	What's up?
	What's on your mind?
	I was just going to suggest that MG needs to set one of you guys up with a VMC so you could get into his computer and change it whenever you need to.
	So is that what we would need to do?
	Because his computer has control of the stream right now, and it locks out everybody else from trying to get it.
	Yeah, you need to be able to get on that computer so you can change who has control of the stream.
	So I'd have to have remote access to his machine somehow.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Maybe we can.
	Go ahead, Jazz.
	I'm not sure MV would like to give you control of his computer.
	And rightly so.
	Well, we don't have a bad history of uploading dock pics in his name or anything like that, do we?
	Yeah, but you know what?
	I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate the uploading of horse porn onto his computer.
	Horse.
	We haven't said that enough today.
	Halse porn.
	We got another caller.
	Maybe I should add it to conference.
	Should I do that?
	Yes.
	Commander Riker, activate the horse porn.
	It's an orgy of talk.
	It's an orgy of Gabcast callers.
	Hello, you're on the air.
	Hi, it's unscreened, and how are you?
	Oh, geez.
	Oh, wow.
	Never would have guessed it was our friend from Queens.
	How are you?
	How are you?
	What's going on?
	How are you?
	Oh, nothing much.
	I'm just laughing at BW Helium doesn't react.
	You see, I'm such a nerd.
	That's really funny.
	Yeah.
	B-Dub was posting, what is it, scientific jokes?
	Science jokes.
	Science jokes.
	Yes.
	B-Dub, would you like to maybe read a couple for the listening or the non-listening audience?
	Yeah, which is two people.
	For no one in particular, I would like to read some science jokes.
	Here's my current favorite.
	Atachion.
	Attachion.
	Oh, no, wait a minute.
	You already fucked it up.
	I fucked it up.
	Oh, wow.
	Anyway, a bartender says, hey, we don't serve tachyons here.
	A tachyon walks into a bar.
	Now, see, if I was a smart feller, I'd actually know what a tachyon is.
	Oh, my God.
	No, I know what.
	Jazz knows just from watching Star Trek.
	Is it really a Star Trek quote?
	Well, and it's not a Star Trek quote, but Tachyons come up all the time on Next Generation.
	But they're a hypothetical particle that move faster than the speed of light, right?
	I don't believe they're hypothetical.
	The physicists talk like they're real.
	Well, yeah, on Star Trek.
	No, if you look at Wikipedia, there's a whole shit of information about there.
	I don't know how theoretical it is or how real.
	I don't know if people have been observed or whatever, but it's a thing.
	It's a thing.
	Science.
	It's a thing.
	So what do you guys, any W250 or unscreen caller?
	What do you guys think about what's going on at Bell Gab?
	You mean patrolling and stuff like that?
	Yeah, that or any other observations that you might have about the site?
	Well, it would be nice if Envy handed over to Keith, but I'm not going to go there.
	But I don't know.
	It's been kind of interesting the past couple of, hasn't it?
	I mean, I try to stay out of the political thread, although I went in there today because, you know, I don't want my ass handed to me on a plate.
	I know there's a little trolling going on, but it's always kind of interesting there.
	I guess I'm the bottom feeder.
	I mean, that's going on.
	We're all bottom feeders.
	We all are.
	We're all bottom feeders, goddammit.
	Yeah, we all learned that today by somebody.
	Which that guy kind of came out of fucking nowhere to me because I, I mean, I remember him posting in the Quits thread.
	I don't remember him being such a cunt.
	Let's put it that way.
	He was very mild-mannered there, and then all of a sudden he turned into I see you next Tuesday for the past couple of days.
	It's been kind of strange.
	I was wondering, because he says he's a gambler.
	He's a poker player.
	I wonder if he's that guy that Art had on his show that time.
	I don't know.
	I was thinking about that because he's very defensive about art and Nori.
	But I don't know.
	Well, I know it's with bottom feeder.
	Bottom feeder is the term that Norrie used quite often, didn't he?
	When he was on Bellgab?
	Well, yes, it takes one to know why.
	I think he used it once.
	Oh, and we just overplayed it?
	Yeah.
	Like we tend to do at Bellgab.
	Just beat that fucking joke into the ground.
	Here's a shovel.
	Well, we've been on the air for half an hour and no one said pray for Goatsy.
	Maybe we're getting better about it.
	I don't know.
	Goatsy.
	I was just looking for that.
	Goatsy.
	Goatsy.
	What about you, WR250?
	What do you think about what's going on at Bellgab recently?
	Lately?
	I don't know.
	Any thoughts?
	I was wondering if Retired Dare had his account taken over by somebody else.
	Yeah, I was either there in his house or he sold the computer and still had all his info on it or somebody actually hacked his account.
	I was thinking the exact same thing because it was just such a change in his behavior and personality than what I was used to.
	And I was thinking exact same thing.
	But I mean, how would somebody go about that?
	Would it be difficult to hack into somebody else's account?
	Depends on how shitty that password is.
	Yeah, all you need is your password.
	Yeah.
	Or you could just walk up to the computer that they use, and if they have it signed on automatically, then you're there.
	You know, you didn't need a password.
	That's true.
	I guess if you're logging on to Bellgab when you're in the library and you forget to log back off, then this person can just jump right on and do whatever.
	They can change the password and then it's their account.
	I can't find.
	I went to the member list on Bellgab and I can't find his name on the member list.
	It was retired.
	No, I saw it.
	I can't say because I was going to have a look at his earlier posts just to see what his history was like.
	Yeah, his earlier posts are there.
	I went back and read.
	Yeah, I did that the other day, but I can't find his name on the list now.
	Has he been flicked from the site?
	I don't know.
	I don't know if he's been banned or not.
	I post too.
	His name is not on the member list.
	He's not there.
	But his posts are there.
	Yeah, he's posted.
	He's not on the list.
	Didn't that happen with somebody else?
	Somebody was looking for Redacted, and they couldn't find her in the members list.
	Well, they forgot the bracket.
	I think that was what it was.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	What the hell happened to Redacted?
	Redacted in Seraphim and...
	Well, Seraphim posted recently...
	Did she?
	Yeah, she posted in that thread about that jackass in California that went on that shooting spree.
	Oh, see, I didn't see that.
	Was that in Random Stupid Things?
	No, that's the thread about the jackass that went on the shooting spree.
	I can't remember his name.
	But your question was in random stupid things.
	My brain is in random stupid things.
	Yeah.
	In the beat of an eye.
	Is that right?
	The beat of an eye or the click of an eye?
	Yes, George.
	I just invented my own site.
	I just invented my own language bullshit.
	Maybe this is what we can do.
	I've got, we were going to play a bunch of George Norrie YouTube fuck-ups a couple weeks ago.
	Oh, yeah, this is good.
	Maybe we can just play this tonight.
	We'll just play fucking clip.
	It'll be a clip show.
	How's that?
	Everybody on the W2P.
	Take a piss at George Night.
	Yeah, take a piss at whoever night.
	Okay, so here's this mashup of George Norrie comments that somebody put together that they posted on YouTube.
	And I have two of them, and I don't recall how long they are, but I think they're about two minutes each.
	So I'll start with the first one here.
	I assume you're not recommending people take their skycars into clouds, right?
	Into clouds.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I don't think that's any problem.
	The werewolves of mythology, how much do they compare with the werewolves of what we believe they could be now?
	It does seem that so many people are beginning to act brain dead.
	What about spinning and spinning and you're not going anywhere in your dream state?
	You're not spinning around in a circle.
	Oh, your legs are running and you're not going anywhere.
	Oh, those kinds of spinnings.
	Yes, very common.
	Relationships.
	You know, the old saying, likes the opposites attract.
	Can you be that way?
	Sometimes you think with the instincts and not the head, and vice versa.
	Have you seen some of the pictures like the Mars rodent clearly looks like a rat?
	Clearly.
	Oh, have we lost you, Richard?
	Yeah, we sure have.
	So we'll call you right back.
	So that's probably one of the reasons why, Richard, you couldn't hear me.
	Give you an example.
	I have two objects in front of me: a piano and a feather.
	And I take both of them with my foot.
	Which one moves quicker and faster and farther?
	Well, not the feather.
	Yes, of course the feather.
	Because it weighs nothing.
	Have a safe trip, you and Ryan.
	You and Robin.
	George Norrie's not very good with science.
	Are you really?
	Somebody is going to tell you, okay, so which object can you move farther, a piano or a feather?
	Well, that's not what he said.
	He said, if you kicked it, which one would move fastest?
	Is that okay?
	So it's a foot.
	So if you kick something with a foot and it weighs a thousand pounds, you're going to be in a world of hurt.
	You guys want to hear that?
	You guys want to hear that?
	The second one?
	Yeah.
	How about our audience?
	You guys want to hear the second one?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Audience of toes.
	We've got a dual audience tonight, ladies and gentlemen.
	Yeah.
	It's not much different than when we're actually broadcasting.
	But it's instant feedback, which is nice.
	It's interactive.
	It's the interactive show, ladies and gentlemen.
	Okay, here's the second YouTube clip.
	Michio, with all that's been going on with this theory of string theory, which you developed it how long ago?
	I'm convinced that the moon is doing something to people's brains.
	What do you think?
	Most people, I think, are afraid of dying.
	Is death like the dream state?
	You know how you have a dream and you wake up and you go, oh, that was a pretty good dream.
	Is it that way?
	And you say no.
	Oh, wow.
	With golly, that dream was awesome.
	The TV button opens up and there you are.
	Take advantage of that and all the videos.
	Let's go to Bob Northqueak in New York.
	Bob, welcome to the program.
	Hi there.
	I thought Madagascar was just a little fun place with a lot of strange animals and just nice and relaxing.
	It's the fourth largest island in the world.
	Pretty poor island.
	Now, it's on the eastern side of Africa in the ocean.
	It's a good-sized island, isn't it?
	It is.
	Fourth largest in the world.
	What?
	It really is.
	Okay.
	I take it, Robert, you're not a believer in heaven and hell.
	Oh, absolutely.
	I am.
	Oh, you are?
	Okay.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm a Christian pastor.
	I've done no preparation.
	None.
	So I take it you don't believe in heaven or hell.
	I'm a pastor, George.
	Well, apparently, MV has us up and running, according to Curtis.
	Oh, shit.
	What?
	No, we're not.
	We can't be connected.
	We can't actually be connected.
	We got Curtis calling in, though.
	Let me add him to the group and see what's going on.
	I might be able to connect now and we can do the next 15 minutes of the show.
	I'm not sure what you guys want to do with that, but let me.
	Hey, Curtis, are you there?
	Hey, I'm here.
	Yep, I just wanted to let you know that I talked to Michael and he said you should have control now.
	Really?
	Yep.
	So that there, there's a quandary now.
	Don't know if we actually want control.
	When you get it, then it's time to give it back, or you want to.
	I think we should just continue doing what we're doing.
	Yeah, I think I agree.
	I mean, it's just taking a big old piss at George.
	It's 15 minutes to the hour, and I mean, we end in 15 minutes anyway.
	So, wait, do you want me to grab the stream and we just continue just bullshitting?
	Or in the I mean, we do have an audience in the chat room.
	So, I guess we should give them something.
	Fuck them, Jesus.
	No, I'm kidding.
	Oh, we have two members of the audience right here.
	Well, let's ask this.
	Let's take a poll.
	The two members of the audience that are on the phone right now, what do you guys think we should do?
	I think you should stream it.
	Oh, yeah, go live.
	Stream it.
	Really?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	WR250?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Stream it.
	Damn it.
	I've been overruled, ladies and gentlemen.
	All right.
	So what do I do?
	So I just turn on the stream or do I start the show again and do the intro music?
	Or what?
	No, I just turned the stream on.
	When people download the show, they get to hear whatever it was you've done up to this point.
	Oh, we're not releasing this show.
	You have no idea.
	You have no idea the shit that we've been talking about, Curtis.
	Man, well, then you have to now.
	All right.
	Or at least.
	Okay, let me start the stream then.
	Fuck it.
	Let's do that.
	Fuck it, man.
	Fuck it.
	I should play at least some background music just slightly here.
	Just to ease us in.
	just to ease us in.
	I think we're on the stream.
	My pewter says we're finally on the stream.
	Are we on the stream, everybody?
	In the chat room?
	Maybe I should do this.
	Raise your hand if you're in the chat room and y'all can hear us.
	Maybe I should do the rest of this terrible show as Skeeter so I can have plausible deniability that I ever actually participated in this show.
	That worked.
	Holy shit.
	Welcome to the Gabcast, everybody.
	This is the second starting of the Gabcast.
	What we were doing is we couldn't get control of the stream tonight, ladies and gentlemen.
	So we decided just to do like a pre-recorded show.
	So we started the show maybe five minutes after when we usually would start, which is 8 p.m. Eastern and 5 p.m. Pacific.
	So we started the show and we ended up just doing genetics, but actually was that the stream beat up?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, that was the stream.
	That was my fault.
	I forgot to mute my mic when listening.
	Oh, you bastard.
	That was a repeat.
	That was a repeat.
	Oh, no.
	If you pause, I don't know.
	Curtis might be able to help me.
	If I pause the thing, the stream, it actually pauses.
	It doesn't keep running.
	Okay.
	Right.
	Yeah, it could be a lie.
	Yeah, from the moment you grab it, the page load, if you pause it, you pause your play of it.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I probably should change that, though, shouldn't I?
	Because that gets people out of whack in the chat room sometimes.
	It can be a good thing and it can be a bad thing.
	Then it was a bad thing.
	Yeah.
	So we've got Curtis Thornton, the Mud King, joining us tonight.
	I don't know how long you can stay with us, Curtis, but if you want to hang out with us for the rest of the show that we do, that's cool.
	We also have Jazz Munda.
	We've got B-Dub.
	I'm Eddie Dean.
	This is the Gabcast.
	This is the May 26th episode, the Gabcast tonight.
	If you guys would like to call in and join us on the show, our abbreviated live show this evening, I suppose you can call it.
	The number is 623-242-2278.
	Again, that's 623-242 cast.
	We had two people call in when we were doing our pre-recorded show, and unscreened caller called in, and WR250 called in, and they just kind of hung out with us and listened to us bullshit and made fun of George.
	And make fun of George.
	We played a couple of George YouTube videos, and the audio from that was pretty hilarious.
	Unscreened, are you still there?
	I think she's left us.
	Okay, so it looks like WR, are you still there?
	Yeah, I'm still here.
	Okay, I knew somebody was still there, but I thought I wasn't sure who it was.
	So that's what we're doing tonight.
	What would you guys like to talk about tonight?
	You know, I don't have anything specific.
	I need you guys to catch me up on the forum.
	Well, that's a good idea.
	That's a big thing.
	It's been a lot of butthurt.
	A lot of butthurt.
	I noticed that, yeah.
	That's why you go to the site, though, right?
	To either give or receive butthurt.
	Well, I really go just for the insult comedy, which usually produces butthurt in some manner or such.
	But, you know, that's not the main draw, butthurt.
	It's the pain.
	Well, maybe it is the butt hurt.
	I don't know.
	Some of the fallout of the butthurt, I believe, is kind of funny, too.
	I just enjoy watching people make fun of George.
	That's just back to your roots, man.
	Back to my roots, man.
	Because it really is just baffling how bad he is at what he does.
	It's like at some point the guy had psychosurgery of some sort and it didn't go terribly well.
	Yeah, you have to wonder if he pays them to be on the air rather than them pay him.
	I mean, has anyone actually listened to him recently?
	Like, is he still just as bad?
	I imagine he is, but I tried.
	I turned it on like over the last two weeks and it was just had to pull the parachute and get out.
	Yeah, I had the painful feeling of an XM or Sirius turning it on at night at a time that would have been right before the dark matter or right after the dark matter time and listening to George.
	That was so painful, man.
	And then I listened to a dark matter episode not too long ago, one of the later versions, and when art was really starting to hit a stride again in terms of feeling like an old show.
	And it really surprised me how that felt like one of the classic episodes in terms of his pacing and the way he did it.
	And to have George on Sirius, you know, same channel again.
	I know it used to be his spot anyway, but it was just painful because nothing's changed.
	So is it still, I haven't listened to Coast Coast for a long time.
	I don't know how long.
	It's been months, several months at least.
	But I mean, is it still like an infomercial?
	I read some of the George Norris Sucks thread, but I don't visit it as often as I used to.
	But what I have seen is people complain about it being an infomercial, you know, and health and bringing in a bunch of health quacks and they're really moving towards or away from controversial subjects.
	Yeah, the format of the show basically is come on, have a guest spot, do a commercial, do a live read, another commercial, have another spot, and then another live read.
	It's basically just one, yeah, infomercials actually are a higher level than what happens on that show.
	Do you think people are paying to come on and talk about their shitty products?
	Oh, I bet they are.
	You think, I don't know.
	I mean, maybe I guess that's totally possible because I think George probably pays to have his airtime too.
	I mean, we talked about, I read an article and we talked about this on the show a month ago or so about Premiere Radio or what's the parent company?
	Clear Channel.
	Clear Channel.
	They hire people.
	They hire professional call-in plans.
	So they bring people in to call in various shows on the Premier Network or on the Clear Channel Network to drum up controversy or to rile up the host or the other callers, you know, just to, so they pay people to call in on the show.
	So I don't see why that people that come on Coast to Coast wouldn't have to pay George or pay whoever to hawk their shit.
	Why do you even need a host at that point?
	Right.
	Yeah, just have a robot taking calls.
	Have Eddie with his George Norrie soundboard there.
	Good point.
	Well, hey, how do we know that's not what's happening?
	That could be the GeorgeBot 1000.
	And I say it should be 100.
	Well, the funny thing is they turned it on and it failed, and that's what everyone's known to love.
	So it actually is broken, but it's working so well.
	You know, have a software team somewhere in a box in Shanghai, like actively patching it while it's running.
	Yeah.
	That's the one time out of a thousand where it actually sounds interesting.
	But reboots.
	If you guys ever listened to, I think Howard Stern, some of his whackpackers would call people using Arnold Schwarzenegger soundboards or make prank phone calls and they get so good at it and they have such a diverse amount of different styles of clips that they can actually hold a conversation with somebody.
	And it's really amazing that if you are competent with soundboard and you know where all your clips are and you know the right button to click at the right spot, then you can have a conversation with just maybe 50 different sound clips.
	But I'm not sure.
	Some of them are fantastic and I would love to do it on our show.
	I'd love to actually call up George Norrie using the George, our George Norrie soundboard and talk to George.
	I think your radio would explode.
	No, that would be the greatest moment in his life.
	It's a great show.
	Just think of the interview they would have of each other.
	I would agree.
	George agrees.
	Yeah.
	You know, the thing is that the one time on air that I actually talked to George, it's so weird how different he is on that.
	How much, I mean, you guys all heard it.
	He seemed to be on top of things in a way that he doesn't on the radio show, even in the most recent episode I listened to.
	It's like he just flips a switch and he does become the George Nori bot 1000.
	I don't understand how that happens.
	Yeah, I mean, because the guy who called into our show the one time wasn't that bad.
	I mean, he was not a complete fucking idiot.
	Yeah.
	I mean, he's not the guy we hear every fucking night.
	He had a sense of humor, and I mean, he talked with you guys like he was, you know, a regular cool guy.
	You know, he had answers.
	Maybe he's just that fucking bored when he does coast.
	He's just sitting there trying to keep his eyes open.
	And that's really, he just, he just, maybe he just fucking hates it that much.
	He's just there for a paycheck.
	That's a really good point.
	Go ahead.
	I'm sure he could have a conversation one-on-one with someone without sounding like a fucking idiot.
	And if he's well-versed on the topic and he knows the topic, he could probably get away with it.
	But when he has no idea and he's reading off cards and he's not listening to the guest, he comes off as a bumbling fool.
	Yeah.
	What topics is he actually well versed in?
	George Nori, which is George Nori.
	Yeah, George Nori when he was talking to Michael and Curtis.
	Talking about himself.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, he presented the most realistic version of events still to this day.
	I believe it fits more into reality, his way he described things than art did.
	For as much as I love listening to art, he never really things didn't add up.
	Where George gave us a version of events that at least felt like it could add up.
	I think Art's still using Richard C. Hoagland math, where George at least realizes that some of the people who listen to him are somewhat intelligent.
	It's unfortunate because Art used to have such an amazing group of callers or listeners who called in that were so smart that they helped make the show great sometimes.
	But I didn't get the feeling that Art was holding, well, I guess that's wrong.
	I was going to say, I don't get the feeling that Art was holding anything back when he called the GabCast that time in October.
	I mean, I didn't feel like he was being deceptive.
	I mean, there were a couple things that he said that he didn't want to talk about just because he didn't want to, what's the word I'm looking for?
	Betray confidence from one of his friends from Sirius.
	But I mean, his story sounded plausible to me.
	I mean, it sounded like he was heartbroken that he couldn't do the show because it really felt like to me, it felt like he was saying that I like the listeners, I care for the listening experience so much that I would rather dump the show.
	And I know this is kind of backwards thinking.
	I'd rather dump the show than have the listeners be upset and not be able to hear me.
	Yeah, I get what you're saying, but I don't believe it.
	I never bought that.
	Really?
	I just, I think that, and when it comes down to it, it doesn't matter really why he left.
	He left, you know.
	And if you are that loyal to your fans and all the things that you said were true, and he said that, so I want to believe they're true, but they don't fit to somebody who has built such a loyal following as what he has to just all of a sudden do what he did.
	There's more behind the scenes, and it's probably none of my business what it was, and that's fine.
	But I would have rather have said that.
	You say, look, I went into a contract with some expectations.
	There's expectations that I don't even have to tell you guys what they were.
	They didn't work out.
	So I'm moving on and leaving.
	I believe that more, or I would accept that compared to the streaming issues and the problems with the internet.
	All of that just seemed like they were things that he latched on to because it got some traction pretty quickly.
	Are you still there?
	Uh-oh.
	It looks like I lost my Skype connection with the other hosts.
	Let me see if I can get them back on the line here.
	Yeah.
	Was that me?
	I'm not sure what happened.
	I think I clicked the wrong button and I got rid of you guys.
	So it wasn't me.
	Yeah, I was bored with whoever.
	I was bored with Curtis.
	He was rambling on and on, so I got rid of him.
	No, I. Pauler, you no longer amuse me.
	Goodbye.
	Goodbye.
	You did it, George.
	We got a lot of followers.
	I would agree.
	You're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hey.
	Who is this?
	It's Michael.
	What's up?
	Hey, Michael.
	How is your memorial, sir?
	It's been pretty splendid, actually, a little too splendid, which is why I shoulder all the blame for the streaming issues at the onset of the show.
	My bad.
	You can't pin any of that on Eddie.
	As much as I'd like somebody to be able to pin it on him, you can't do it.
	It was all me.
	MV, you disappointed two or three people.
	At least two or three people.
	What do you mean?
	You guys actually, you get more live listeners than Curtis and I do.
	But you guys don't do a show.
	Well, that's true.
	Yeah, that might help.
	But when we do do a show, you know, your listener counts are always better.
	But I think maybe also, yeah, when you do do a show, when you squat and squeeze a link on this thing that you call a broadcast, it actually, you know, I think what Curtis and I do, maybe it's a little too niche.
	You know, not everybody wants to listen to a bunch of nerdy shit.
	You know, some people don't care for that.
	Whatever.
	Yeah, but I mean, I mean, this show is just as niche because it's about Bellgab.
	You know, there's people that general person out there wouldn't know most of the time what the fuck we were talking about, you know, when we're going on and on about Belgab and trolls and Falki.
	Well, but you guys have kind of.
	What's that niche?
	You guys have kind of gone a little broader than Bellgab, though.
	You know, you talk about more of a variety of things.
	You know, a lot of people are interested in paranormal stuff, UFO stuff, a lot of the things you've been talking about.
	Yeah.
	And so.
	Insult comedy.
	Yeah, fart.
	Well, I guess it's more along the lines of shit humor than fart humor.
	Yeah.
	We're very, very proud of our poop humor.
	Thank you very much.
	Curtis, are you still on the line?
	I tried to get Curtis back, and I don't know if he's there or not.
	Curtis, are you there?
	I'm here now.
	Okay.
	I think you hurt his feelings.
	Oh.
	Hi, Curtis.
	I was on my cell phone, and it just dropped.
	And so I had to get over my computer and dropped for all of us.
	Yeah, that was my fault, Curtis.
	I clicked on a button and it dumped every single one of you guys.
	Damn those buttons.
	I know.
	So that was my fault.
	So, Michael, it sounds like you've had a few adult beverages this evening or this afternoon.
	Really?
	Is it that obvious?
	Yeah, you're kind of talking slow, and you might be slurring a little, too.
	You're sounding very intelligent like.
	What?
	That would explain things.
	I'm not saying that as a slide.
	I'm just saying that this is a different side of you that people.
	No, I was trying to impersonate your soundboard of George.
	What?
	What?
	Was I close?
	Yeah, you were.
	Oh, no, I was a little bit off.
	What?
	It was a valid attempt.
	So, who do we have here?
	We have Eddie B.W. Zonin here.
	I know Jasmund is here.
	Yeah, Onan is gone.
	He had an emergency at work tonight and he couldn't make it.
	He's winding down.
	And Curtis.
	You know, I find so many instances throughout my day-to-day life where that he's winding down phrase could be used.
	It would totally be in context for about 50 other people on the face of this planet who wouldn't know what that refers to.
	It really is.
	It's like trying to explain the whole dog ad universe to someone you know who does not have anything to do with Coast to Coast AM, has never heard it.
	They have no clue that it even exists.
	And then add to that a forum that exists to talk about a show that really no longer exists, but kind of does exist in a hybrid voice.
	Try explaining that to somebody.
	Yeah, there are eyes.
	You can't explain it to somebody.
	And then doubly on top of that, the inside jokes that go along with it, praying for Goatsy.
	Goatsy.
	People winding down.
	Is that an actual clip from the night he said that on the air?
	The goatsy one, yes.
	I was going to say, I wish I had the clip of him saying winding down, but I don't think he George actually said that.
	He just tightened it.
	He did.
	Did he actually say he did?
	He did.
	He said, he's winding down, folks.
	He's winding down.
	It's on the side somewhere.
	Someone's posted a link to it.
	Who is winding down?
	Art Bell.
	Fuck him.
	Fuck you, George.
	Loud and clear.
	I said attention.
	Yeah, BW.
	Are you angry?
	You hostile?
	A little bit.
	You mad, bro?
	So what did you guys do for Memorial Day today?
	Or is it Labor Day?
	What is it?
	Is it Memorial Day?
	Fool.
	Yeah.
	See, I'm self-employed.
	I spent my entire day at the water park with my family.
	Nice.
	I'm all sunshined out.
	I hope so.
	So you've got a nice burn going?
	I'm going to look very Aryan tomorrow.
	My hair will be nice and blonde with my blue, piercing eyes gazing out of people, making them fear conquest and colonization as I walk past them.
	Nice.
	I'm actually going to sunburn thinking about this.
	Curtis, you said you're watching the NBA game or the basketball game or something.
	How did that turn out?
	It's going painful for my team, the Indiana Pacers.
	The heat rushing them last time I looked.
	But here's the thing that's important to remember in all of this, though.
	The game was just starting, and when I saw that the stream wasn't coming up, I thought, how in the world can I help to make sure Gabcast is still on the air?
	So I didn't even really do poorly until a few minutes into actually getting in touch with Michael and getting you guys up on the streams.
	I took one for the team.
	So Curtis is basically inserting himself where he needs to to say, hey, Michael just really, in every conceivable manner that somebody could screw something up, he screwed up in every one of those manners tonight.
	But I, Curtis Norton, came in and miraculously saved the day for everybody.
	No, what I'm saying is I don't even know what happened, but I'm a facilitator.
	I might not be able to make it happen, but I can make sure that the people who can make it happen make it happen.
	Wow.
	That's like the fall key of podcasts.
	I think, Curtis, what you really want is you want a job on the Gabcast.
	I don't know if I'm ready for that.
	I'm still in the minor leagues.
	I think Curtis works really well on your show.
	There are also 17 other co-hosts that I think you also should have on simultaneously.
	I think Curtis is a poop story away from joining the Gabcast.
	Yeah.
	You got a good poop story, Curtis?
	That'll lock you in, buddy.
	Yeah, if you have a few minutes to spare, sure, I can give you one.
	I have a lot of poop stories, and they all take place in a seedy foreign country, and they're not pretty.
	One time my digestive system was so under attack that literally I would go to the bathroom and there was nothing solid about it.
	I mean, it was just your body is so sick that it's just throwing off water, trying desperately to flush all this bacteria out of you and viri or whatever the hell it is that you're sick with, just trying to flush it out of your colon.
	So just every glass of water you drink is just getting flushed right out of you.
	And so what happens when you're in that situation is you'll go to bed at night, and because there's nothing solid about what's happening down there whatsoever, it's just entirely water, you will wake up the next day having shed the entire bed like an infant.
	You laugh about that and you laugh about foreign countries.
	But the last time I experienced something like that was actually in your country.
	I went to McDonald's and had two McRibs.
	There's a problem right there.
	Wow, Jesus.
	I also experienced the Ass Fountains syndrome and had to sleep with a towel from the hotel under me so that I wouldn't ruin the bed sheets.
	You mean to tell me that Australia does not have a McDonald's that sells McRib?
	Well, I think they don't sell against that.
	We don't sell the McRib.
	We do have McDonald's, but I don't eat a McDonald's usually.
	And yeah, I sort of regret eating the McRib.
	I've never had a McRib.
	I do not want one.
	Thank you very much.
	Let me go to the United States and eat the most unhealthy thing I can eat right away and shit myself the whole two weeks.
	Yeah.
	I think I like this version of MV.
	You need to drink all the time, buddy.
	That shouldn't be that shouldn't really affect your family or home life or anything or your work or job or anything.
	Will it?
	Well, as long as you have breast mints, it's my understanding you can hide it from people.
	Yeah, if you drink vodka, I mean, I don't know this, but I heard that if you drink vodka, you can cover that much easier than with drinking other type of spirits.
	I'm just going to be walking around with people saying he's a very pepperminty man, isn't he?
	Everywhere, every hallway I pass, every open door, someone just pokes their nose out the door as I pass by.
	Very pepperminty, sir.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	So basically, your whole life is going to turn into a Mentos commercial.
	Remember the Foo Fighters video?
	Was it Learning to Fly?
	Yeah, it was that they had to fly the plane or something.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	What was the name of the product on that?
	It was close to Mentos, but I can't remember what it was.
	Vaginos.
	Yeah.
	Vaginos.
	I can only hope that's what it was.
	Yeah, don't know.
	You know, I've heard there's a lot of Foo Fighters material that could easily have been their Vana Song if only Kurt Cobain hadn't just been such an artistic hog about the whole thing and would have given Dave Rolls some control.
	Is there validity to that?
	How about that for a conspiracy theory that the whole thing actually worked out because Grohl had a notebook that him and Kurt had been working on, and so we had to get it out of there.
	And what better way to do it than to hand a shotgun to Kurt when he's in a depressed mode and get out of there with it and start his own band?
	Did you ever speak urgent, Courtney?
	I'll hang up now.
	I'll hang up now and I'll listen for the rest of the show.
	I didn't know what to say.
	I was going to make a joke, but I got nothing.
	I just got nothing.
	I've heard the conspiracy about Courtney Love, and I've heard the conspiracy about James Scroll.
	Kurt Cobain was a pretty messed up guy.
	It's not a huge stretch to think that he would do something like that.
	It's sad.
	I actually posted something about that about some sort of, they found a note in Kurt's wallet that they hadn't released until just recently.
	And the note said some bad things about Courtney, saying that she's an evil bitch and she wants to take over your life.
	I mean, just some not very flattering things about Courtney.
	It was a poem.
	It was a poem that they interpreted.
	Is that what it was?
	Yeah, it was police evidence that for some reason the police just decided to throw out there again.
	Well, it wasn't thrown out again.
	It was put out for the first time.
	Yeah, put out for the first time.
	But they kind of, I think the Kurt Cobain Foundation kind of coaxed the cops to do that because coincidentally, Hole's new album is coming out, and they kind of timed it nicely with that media bump that they got from that controversy.
	Or maybe it's a made-up controversy.
	Who knows?
	You know, I think that's exactly it.
	I think you just, wow, I think you just summarize the entire reason behind all of that.
	Thank you very much.
	Purely promotion.
	No, seriously.
	I mean, there's a lot of money to be made out there.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	All you have to do is come up with some crazy story.
	I mean, we were going to talk about John Teeter tonight.
	And all you really have to do is come up with a somewhat plausible story that's not too crazy, but still just a little bit over the line and get enough people to believe in it.
	And you can make millions.
	Am I here?
	Yes, you're there.
	You're on the air.
	What's up?
	Yeah.
	Hey, this is Mr. Fidget.
	You're a forum participant there with a crazy story with just a little bit of an idea that could go a long way.
	It's pretty intuitive.
	Hi, guys.
	I'm alive.
	Hi.
	I'm a good fidget maker.
	And, you know, I'm kind of walking into the lion's den here.
	What's going on?
	You just caught me off guard here, buddy, because I just lost the other host of the show.
	So I'm trying to get that back.
	We've got MV on the headline.
	We've got Mr. Fidget.
	Hi, Mr. Fidget.
	How are you?
	I'm hanging in there, you know, one foot in front of the other.
	Pleasure to talk to you.
	So what's the deal with you were you were on the Bell Show?
	Is that what it was in the early 90s?
	I haven't read your entire thread, so I don't know the exact story.
	Well, don't give us the whole story either, because I'm sure you could talk for 20 minutes on this.
	Just give us like the paragraph summary.
	An abbreviated.
	You're absolutely right.
	And a good summary of it probably hasn't ever been written.
	But in essence, I called Art in 95 and told him that I had some information to send to him about how people cope with crime under a pseudonym in 95.
	And I joined a partnership to start to try to make in some stuff in like 97.
	And we were trying to make it all happen three days before my first Jury Dark show.
	I was assaulted and battered in front of witnesses on public property.
	And I just had to deal with that.
	And then I went to the show and I didn't make much money.
	And then my partner wanted me to do it exactly his way.
	And I was supposed to be as the inventor, the controlling interest owner.
	And along the short is, and to get to the point, I saw stuff was really going wrong because they wrote these five date locations in 1970.
	S7 was a big fat binary goose egg zero because they knew that what they did was wrong.
	So I never got to appear on the tickets until you got to be able to.
	Mr. Fidget.
	Yeah.
	I want to slow down just a little bit.
	You keep speeding up and speeding up and it's harder and harder to understand what you're saying.
	Well, I'm almost to a good breaking point to wrap the brain around the concept, which was I needed help and I needed to figure out what to do.
	I knew I could get through to art and I knew I could prove I could get through to art.
	So once my partner gave me this bill for $23,000, I got through to art.
	And then what actually happened in the broadcast, it ended up art talking about the tickets in 1970.
	And then because I didn't even know what they said that I did for another three years, all of my business, everything that happened in life was really weird because you couldn't tell them what happened, you know, because they asked you a question, you don't have any answers.
	You don't even know what they said.
	I'm sorry, Mr. Fidget.
	I didn't follow that at all.
	So you got on Fidget.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead, Envy.
	Ask him a question.
	You got something?
	Can you ask him to repeat all of that again?
	So here's the thing.
	I figured out the trick to get through to art in about 95, and I did that by calling up during the day and seeing how long it took for the phone ring to go to the next to drop you.
	And then I measured kind of how quick that happened with two payphones, and I figured out it was pretty quick, pretty instantaneous.
	So you were able to get on Art Bell Show, and how many times did you talk to Art on the Air?
	Three times in regards to the fidgets, three nights in a row, except it was actually four nights because he replayed Major Ed Dames in between the second and third night.
	Mr. Fidget.
	Yeah.
	Mr. Fidget, can I buy a fidget right now if I want to buy one?
	No.
	Wait, wow.
	No, there is a guy knocking me off.
	There is a guy knocking me off that sells them online.
	Well, I want the authentic real deal.
	I'm not going to go buy some Chinese import cards.
	Yeah.
	But, you know, manufacturing is a real sticky, wicked pitfall area of a consumption for artists.
	And so I got to this point working with Chain where I can't do everything it takes to run a company to make fidgets.
	So I look at them as art sculpture and as kind of a part of the maker movement and kind of as open source hardware.
	So each one is kind of a model for them.
	And anyone that duplicated one of the ones that they saw, they'd have the thing themselves.
	So it is kind of like you can take matters.
	If somebody takes matters into their own hands, they can have some fidgets pretty quick.
	Okay, well, I just don't want to have to do anything.
	I want it just to be delivered to me as a ready-made turnkey fidget.
	You have my word that when I do get to a point where I can point you to somebody that has a ready-made turnkey fidget, made my specifications, I will understand.
	Why can't, if given that you just make them by hand, why can't you just turn them out when you get an order?
	Like, say, MV wants to order a fidget.
	Why can't you just make one?
	Yeah, why don't you just go into your workshop and start working?
	You know, well, probably kind of the same reason Santa had elves or something.
	You know, I just it's hard to explain.
	I think everybody can easily distract this.
	I think I can make stuff every day.
	I don't understand why you're at elves.
	Do you have a felony to make a fidget?
	So check this out, gentlemen.
	I look forward to it.
	Do you have the facility?
	Can you go to your house and make a fidget right now?
	No, not really.
	Not in that tradition.
	Why?
	I have a facility.
	Well, you call yourself Mr. Fidget.
	Well, it's true, but there are 50,000 people plus that have a fidget, and they would be calling me Mr. Fidget, too.
	I'm not doubting that you aren't Mr. Fidget.
	I'm just trying to help you get to a point where you can actually start to make these things.
	It seems like you have difficulty putting one foot in front of the other.
	I mean, I think you've got a great idea.
	I think your fidgets are today, but definitively, it's not a great idea.
	Definitively, it's not because they are a great reality.
	Because ideas are in the mind, and the stuff that I've produced is in the hand.
	So that moves it into the reality sphere directly from the idea.
	That underscores my confusion as to why it's so difficult for you to make one.
	Yeah, where's the money?
	It's a question of manufacturing and figuring.
	My circumstances are less than favorable.
	I actually believe the whole homeless thing is kind of a scam anyway because everybody lives in their bodies, so we're all at home in our body, and we just don't even understand what a home is.
	So, Mr. Fidget.
	So, when you ask me, right now I have a physical dwelling to be in, yeah.
	You know, but it's not always better than that.
	Let me ask your question, Mr. Fidget.
	Let's boil this down.
	You're angry.
	Just answer this with yes or no.
	Are you angry because you anticipated an appearance on Art Bell show and it never happened?
	Not at all.
	Not in the slightest mind.
	Well, then I have no idea what you're upset about.
	Well, here's the question I'm trying to figure out, too.
	And Mr. Fidget, do you need machinery or some sort of device to fidgets?
	You have touched on one of the areas which prevents me from really developing them at scale.
	At the time that this happened, the company that I buy from had a machine that cut hundreds of pieces a minute, and I was able to get my chain pre-cut so that it reduced the amount of labor.
	But in between that time, they've actually eliminated that service.
	I've been communicating with them and waiting for instructions and answers and machines to get that machine.
	But they're going to be $15,000, $20,000 machine.
	And so that's all past some sort of future Kickstarter world fidget Congress kind of thing.
	Or who knows?
	Let me ask you this.
	I feel like I'm losing control of the show here.
	We've got six, seven people on the show.
	And that's cool because I think it's awesome.
	But I think Curtis has a question for you, Mr. Fidget.
	Go ahead, Curtis.
	Okay, well, let me get back to the fact that I've only seen a few of the things that were posted on Bell Gab, and I remember hearing about Mr. Fidget vaguely from past episodes of our every story where someone who's as upset as you sound like you are has a good guy and a bad guy in it.
	And I really don't know where to put you, and I don't know what the struggle is about.
	Can you just, on a very basic level, that someone who doesn't know all the background, can you tell me what's the issue?
	In two sentences, I saw a conspiracy coming.
	I called to draw attention to it.
	By the time I proved the conspiracy, and I could go back and show what happened, nobody was.
	What's the conspiracy?
	I didn't want to go on the show.
	I just wanted to show them what happened.
	You see, because they didn't know what happened.
	They just assumed that I ran off of everybody's $5.
	But in reality, I deposited the checks into the bank.
	The safest thing to do is the routing numbers to get that information out of my hands.
	I took half of that money and gave it to my partner.
	The most responsible thing I could do in business.
	I took $700 of it and gave it to a nonprofit consultant to incorporate the nonprofit cyclical process technology, just like I said on Art Bell.
	That left me with just under $1,500 or less to be able to pull together a company.
	Now, the problem is I went and rented a place that was a little bit bigger to be able to accommodate the work that I needed to do instead of a little two-by-four storage unit that I had.
	And I paid in advance for it right at the time when 60 days would have been coming up.
	And then when I went to go take a possession of the unit, they had already rented it to somebody else, so I didn't get the space.
	And I was living at the time in a car at $700 a month to be able to have the car to live in.
	Two months, I was sunk.
	And that was two years before I knew what they said that they could do to throw me on the ground.
	But it created a situation where I couldn't explain what was happening, and nobody could understand that I couldn't understand what was happening.
	And once I got the documents, and the Citizens Police Review Board unanimously sustained my complaint, and the chief reversed his decision, and I sued in proper for assault battery, false imprisonment, and so on and so forth.
	All of those things happened.
	We got you.
	That's news.
	When you come out of the other side of that, it's news.
	Hold on a second, Mr. Faze.
	And they won't.
	I feel like they need to do this like Senate style or like in a congressional hearing.
	And my time will be up in just a moment.
	So it sounds like it was a business deal that's gone bad and some bad things happened to you after the fact.
	So are you looking just to clear the air on this and keep this as succinct as you can, just to clear the air, or are you looking for a pair of people?
	Hold on, hold on, let me finish.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Go ahead, Curtis.
	Okay, well, that's just now that I've kind of heard the run-on sentence version of what's happened.
	Sorry.
	I got to give it to you, Mr. Fazier.
	You can talk, man.
	I don't know how you do it, but you start talking, and every sentence gets faster and faster and faster.
	And sometimes it's hard to understand you.
	And we're trying to understand what your deal is and why you're so angry, but I just needed to interject.
	Go ahead, Curtis.
	Yeah, okay.
	So again, just a quick statement of do you want retribution or do you just want to get a story out there?
	I'm just interested in what your answer to that is, and I yield back the rest of my time.
	Hey, that's awesome.
	And thanks for letting me go through this.
	And, you know, I don't want retribution.
	I feel like I've been significantly expressed now.
	My position or my side of it was not in the public view, and they prevented it from being able to be known.
	And they aren't the only media that I tried to talk to.
	And I just have to say that I think it was irresponsible for Art to say that no credible journalist should talk to me until everybody gets their fidgets.
	When in reality, the fact that I couldn't talk to any credible journalist is preventing anybody from getting their fidgets because I was involved in a situation that was enough that people got fired and the rules got changed.
	I didn't go to the state attorney general for nothing.
	I asked the president for a pardon.
	Here's the thing.
	I asked the president for a pardon for not sending the fidgets.
	The president?
	What does the federal government have to do with failing business?
	Well, they would, you know, if I had an attempt to deceive when the people that were on the air sent me $5, then that would have been fraud.
	But I didn't.
	My motive wasn't to take their money.
	Art was telling me that the fax machine was burning up with orders, and I knew that I was in a desperate position with my business falling apart.
	Mr. Fitzgerald, were you convicted of fraud?
	I'm going to be quiet for the rest of this call.
	No, absolutely not.
	And there's so many little nuances.
	Let me make one statement here.
	And then, like I said, I'll be quiet and let everybody else bring anything they want to into it.
	But I just want you to think about the fact that the people who may have put money in on this, that that sounds like you're upset about the fact that perception is that you didn't fulfill, this is the same radio show that produces Richard C. Hoagland, Ed Dames, and countless other people who are selling products, Whitley Streeber.
	That anyone who puts money into a programme that's part of it, they don't expect a return on it.
	So don't get so upset about that part of it, man.
	If you're worried about your name being bad in it, think of all those other names I mentioned there and whether or not they're really associated with science.
	Okay, and that's all I have to say.
	Thank you.
	Thanks, Curtis.
	Thank you.
	And just to wind you down, so to speak, the process of getting through this was just to get to the point where the information was out there and the designs can be used.
	Whether it's just a piece of bike chain on a key ring or not, kids see something different and they see all these mechanical constants in some place to put their attention.
	And a lot of times we have so many things on the can't-do list, and we have very few things on the can-do list.
	And the fidget is something that through some teaching and people have been on the can-do list, and it's good for people.
	It gives them something to do.
	I got to tell you, I have a question.
	Go ahead, B.W. You have a question?
	Go ahead.
	Mr. Fidget, at any point in time, have you been approached by a journalist to do a story about your product or your business aside from coast to coast?
	No, not once.
	And why do you suppose that is?
	Well, I think it is because Art Bell said on the air on hundreds of stations and simulcasts: no credible journalist should talk to Mr. Fidget until everybody has possibilities.
	Is it possible that that's one possible explanation, but is it more likely that no one no journal journalist is really that interested in your story?
	Just asking the question.
	That could be, but how could they be interested if they don't know what it is?
	You see?
	Maybe they don't.
	Have you ever heard of documents being dated 27 years earlier in four out of five date locations?
	Have you ever heard of that happening before?
	Seriously.
	Have you ever heard of documents being issued, court documents where you're having to sign under perjury and all that or for failure to appear that are 27 years earlier in four or five date locations?
	Have you ever heard of anything like that ever?
	I can barely understand anything you're saying.
	Okay, there you get a ticket.
	You get pulled over on your motorcycle.
	You were going too fast.
	The cop fills out the ticket on the date that it occurred.
	He writes the date.
	Well, because that's where this whole thing happened.
	The conspiracy thing, the whole thing that sent me off the rails was the fact that this guy was able to just write the wrong dates in there and monkey wrench it so that I couldn't be able to explain what happened or face my accuser.
	So when you go to the bottom, I'm going to have to cut.
	I just need to mute your channel, man, because it's really difficult to do a radio show and for everybody, for us and the listeners to really understand what you're saying.
	So let me bring you back up.
	I just want to ask you one question, Mr. Fidget.
	How long ago is this?
	Was this in the late 90s?
	Or is this an online?
	1997.
	The actual three-hour broadcast.
	Okay, so I'm going to mute your channel.
	So it was 1997.
	So why are you still upset about this?
	It's not so much upset.
	I just want the information out there.
	I want people to know what it was that happened and that I didn't run off with their money and I wasn't in a situation where I was making from a mensrea issue.
	Oh, what happened to you?
	Wow. Wow, man.
	Hey, Mr. Fidget, your phone audio is really tripping out there.
	I don't know what's going on with that.
	Is that any better?
	Writing through a tunnel right now?
	So, mens Ray, are you familiar with that legal concept?
	It's the state of the mind.
	Okay.
	On the time that I was on Art Bell, it was a week before my 29th birthday.
	In those five days, my mailbox went from a normal-sized mailbox to a big mailbox, absolutely full of letters from all over the country from interesting people reflecting on their perception of my situation in the call.
	And on my birthday, there was a FedEx tag, two of them, in fact.
	And I was really excited.
	And I took the FedEx tag and I went with my friend Jim to the FedEx building.
	And I went in there and I got the packages.
	It was two huge boxes.
	We took them out.
	We put them on the truck.
	I opened it up.
	And you know what it was?
	It was a brand new sun workstation.
	The dream computer in 1997, $5,000 of the computer.
	It's my birthday.
	I'm so excited.
	And then I say, well, I got to look and see who this is too.
	No, it's to somebody else at the same P.O. box.
	So I put it back together.
	I took it back into FedEx, and I said, this isn't for me that gave the tags to the wrong person.
	So that has to do with mens reacts.
	Okay?
	So when I did the art delta, I wasn't trying to run a lot of products of value.
	I wasn't trying to, well, you're not the first person.
	We need to wrap this up, Mr. Fidget.
	So, Onan or Jasmunda, you haven't gotten in here yet.
	Do you have a question for Mr. Fidget?
	And then we can wrap this up.
	I do.
	Okay, go ahead, Ona.
	I do, too.
	Okay, so we got two more questions.
	You ask yours first.
	Hold on a second, Onan.
	We've got two more questions for you, Mr. Fidget.
	Try to make them as brief as possible, and then we'll let you say one last thing, and then we're going to have to go.
	Okay, go ahead, Onan.
	I would rather be the last one, but I'll go ahead.
	Mr. Fidget, have you ever been diagnosed with a mental illness?
	Nope.
	Okay, do you realize that some of your content seems rather hard for the normal person to grasp?
	It's difficult.
	I understand that it's a 17-year journey is hard to understand.
	Have any of you gentlemen ever proved that people conspired against you on a legal form?
	Oh, I'd be pissed.
	I'd be mad if that happens.
	Sometimes what we believe to be and what actually is are two different things.
	When you get on the other side of it, and once you have the proof and you have the unanimously sustained complaint in your hand, it is no longer a question of maybe kind of could have.
	But it's 20 years ago.
	I'm willing to look at anything that's outside of the box.
	You want to diagnose me?
	You're coming again, just like I said in the forum.
	I'm trying to culture anybody.
	Not looking at the content whatsoever.
	I wrote about, what, 20,000 words there or whatever, explaining a situation, and you're coming to me asking me about my sanity, nothing about the content that's within me.
	I didn't say anything.
	The rules changed.
	Somebody stood up.
	They made a difference.
	It got trudged under, and it's being ignored and actively suppressed.
	You present with semantic features.
	That's what I'm suggesting.
	Well, you guys have been dealing, you know, just kicking my butt for two weeks.
	I had a whole other thing.
	You see, it's done.
	One thing I want to say, one thing I'd like to say to you guys, is I really respect the fact that for the last 24 hours, my post on my thread is the last one.
	You gave me the last word in my thread.
	I appreciate that.
	We'll see how long it lasts.
	And Mr. Fidget, I ought to get the last word.
	I know, I know.
	I just need to make one more comment, and then you can have the last word.
	You have to realize that Bellgab is full of people, a lot of people, that this show does not have control of.
	This show is comprised of four, five, six members.
	Right, tonight there's six members of Bellgab.
	But you have to realize that I don't think any of us really said anything mean or nasty towards you.
	So when you say we have an opportunity here, I know.
	I know.
	I don't have to realize that.
	Okay, go ahead.
	And I do.
	Okay, well, let me know.
	I think you guys have something you'd like to do.
	It's been neat to be in there.
	This is the beginning of a journey of a continuation of a long trek to be able to share this technology that I've developed with people so that they can use it for their benefit if they want to.
	I don't think it's the panacea.
	I'm not trying to shove one down everybody's throat.
	I just want it to be an option on the table.
	And that's been the problem is I felt like I was prevented from allowing it to be an option on the table because of the stuff that has happened.
	And eventually we'll get to the other side of it.
	And I think that there would be very widely known as a physics learning aid, something that helps kids with torque and cycle and process and friction and leverage and balance, unity, harmony, order, and contrast, the elements of design.
	That's what I think.
	I think that it's going to outlast all of us.
	I think your product is really interesting.
	And to tell you the truth, I would buy one because my mom loves riding bikes.
	And I would buy one of your bicycle chains or whatever they are and give it to her.
	But you have 200 uses.
	I don't know why anyone would buy it.
	Yeah, I don't understand it.
	I don't know if it's a good idea.
	Well, that's what I was going to get at.
	Have you ever just conceded that no one wants the product?
	And that's why you haven't.
	That doesn't hold true with my experience.
	That's the 50,000 end users.
	I'm not trying to shove it down anybody's throat.
	What 50,000?
	It happened.
	Hey, you know, it happened.
	It's a true story.
	And I think, in a way, I've breathed a little life into you guys' forum in the last week.
	I brought something that makes sense if you really look into it.
	Mr. Fidget.
	Okay.
	Beat up.
	Mr. Fidget.
	Did you have 50,000 of these?
	Anybody got a problem with a free comic book?
	No, not at all.
	Not at all.
	So you don't have 50,000 users.
	Well, yeah, most certainly I do.
	I've been making these 1991.
	These little devices.
	Yeah, my biggest order ever was like 20,000 pieces in 1995.
	How long does it take to make one of these things?
	It depends on which one you're talking about.
	At this point, I got 30 different kinds.
	I'm like the Lego of chain parts.
	I got Kiroids.
	I got triangles.
	Have you ever heard of Kicard?
	Have you heard of Kickstarter?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, absolutely.
	I'm way up on the crowdfunding most people.
	Okay, well then couldn't this all have been solved with Patreon?
	Do you guys know about Patreon?
	You asked me about Kickstarter.
	I've never got that.
	I'm sorry.
	Why wouldn't you?
	It's ongoing support like Kickstarter for creatives.
	Because we just have one time for you.
	He draws a good web comic, and then that guy can make a living.
	We can't be all things to all people, man.
	I'm not trying to make it into anything.
	I felt like I've really lost control of this radio show, but that was my specialty.
	That was my specialty with art.
	That's the thing is I effectively blew him off the chair that third night.
	I mean, someday I will post links.
	I will post links to the audio at some point.
	Well, I would like that.
	I would also like for you to kind of go back to the forum, type out in five or six concise sentences what exactly you're offering to sell.
	Because I guarantee you that if it's reasonable, shit, I'll buy some of them.
	Well, I'm not really at this point, I'm not selling anything because I moved on to another whole phase.
	Life is about development of forward progression.
	We're all Zen Masters on life.
	We got that.
	What we wanted from you is what you've got to offer us in the way of a fidget.
	If you put a fidget on that thread, I promise you I'll buy one.
	And so will I.
	I will too.
	And if I figure out a way, if I figure out a way to make that happen, like I told you, I'll let you guys know.
	But right now, I'm really focusing on other creative endeavors that I feel surpassed.
	See, what I needed to do was just kind of like pour the wet cement and the brass tacks on this one in that forum there.
	See, because nobody's there now.
	You guys got 2,000 views on this thread with seven pages, okay?
	But if the world goes there and the zeros get stacked up behind that page view, I have thousands and thousands of page views on so many things.
	I know it.
	Don't personify this as you brought a lot to this forum.
	Oh, I just know that when I was on our show, I could put 24,000 hits on the site in the two hours, and that was on the rebroadcast in 2009, which is another whole nuance to the story.
	But, you know, listen, grandiosity land, man.
	Sorry, but you won't.
	I appreciate it.
	I appreciate that it might appear that way.
	I'm just trying to figure out what to do.
	And if you were to play a role reversal with me and try to think like, what would you do?
	Here's what I do.
	Everyone is so forgiving when you produce a product that they're interested in.
	And obviously, everyone is interested in what a fidget is and what it can do.
	So don't worry about the backstory.
	Let's say we're having a board meeting.
	Let's say we were sitting around.
	Go ahead.
	I muted him, Curtis.
	Go ahead and finish your point.
	We're such a forgiving people that none of the backstory even matters.
	Give me a fidget.
	Let me buy it.
	If I like it, I'm going to ask for more and I'm going to see what the next step is.
	And none of it will matter anymore.
	It'll be over with.
	And he'll never have to go through this whole experience of telling the past story.
	How many people out there have fallen on hard times for whatever reason and just produce something and let your product stand for itself and no one cares anymore?
	And I can't get past the feeling that it's coast-to-coast AM.
	So anything that ever happened on that show to anyone or any person, that's not something to get upset about.
	It's not important.
	You're putting too much pressure on yourself, man.
	Just do your own thing, make your product, or don't make it if you don't want to.
	And move on with life, man.
	It's not worth getting so worked up about.
	Do you still have me muted?
	No.
	Am I still muted?
	You're up now.
	Okay.
	Well, you know, I appreciate that.
	And this has been a cathartic experience for me because, you know, again, for me, it was getting beyond something that was kind of dark and difficult to deal with.
	I think that in the long run, everything is going to be fine because the stuff is out there now.
	And I just had a hard time with them being able to get away with it, with me being kind of on this uphill slope, and then prove that I was kind of put there and no attention to it.
	So it's not grandiose to think that I breathe life into the forum.
	I've looked around the forum.
	Hey, I think I wrote more factual stuff of actual laugh and regarding circumstances.
	Did I ask you questions?
	Do we really want to do a question?
	Michael has one question and then we got to go.
	Go ahead, MV.
	Okay, sweet.
	Yeah, Mr. Fisher, I was the one that said I actually did like the design of that picture that you posted over my orb is a fidget.
	I saw that.
	Yes.
	And it was very symmetrical and interesting, I thought, as artistic peace.
	And so I can tell you that, yes, if you would sell those, people would certainly buy them, I think.
	Yeah.
	The reason that popped out, MV, just to share this with you, because from 10 to 13, I lived with the division chief from the National Bureau of Standards, who was an expert fabricator.
	He had 75 guys under him working on the first atomic clock at the plant division there at the Bureau.
	So that's why I threw up that number that goes to the atomic clock and the thing, because I've known that since I was like 10 years old, you know.
	And it's the engineering mind, and I'm not trying to be grandiose or bragging, but it's because I understood these fundamentals of applied pressure and appropriate force and process and leverage and all these things at a young age that I could make something like that in 99.
	And I'm happy to share it in the forum.
	And that's the thing.
	Art is really best if you do share it.
	And hopefully you guys will see that that's what my thread is about.
	We look forward to you doing this, sir.
	All right, Mr. Fidget.
	Hey, man, we appreciate you calling the GabCast.
	I have three more questions.
	That's it, man.
	That's it.
	So that's going to be it.
	I'm glad you called, Mr. Fidget, and we'll see you around the forum, buddy.
	Yes, sir.
	Take care, Bilal.
	Good night, sir.
	Good night.
	Oh, that was fun.
	Yeah, I'm going to buy the Chinese knockoff the widget.
	Yeah.
	That would be actually really cool.
	I mean, if you guys see the pictures, it's really interesting.
	And I wasn't kidding.
	I'd buy one.
	Let me just say that that product is named so well after its creator.
	Listening to that guy, I mean, he can talk.
	Yeah.
	I feel for him, and I want to see whatever.
	Anytime someone has an artistic expression, I want to see it succeed and let people experience it.
	So I'm pulling for him from that point of view.
	But yeah, man, we don't need to know the entire story.
	Let me fall in love with the art first, and then I'll come to you and start adding a product out there.
	Yeah.
	I would just like to say that I would like to encourage Mr. Fidget to switch to decaf.
	Caffeine is not your friend, my friend.
	I think he's a few blockchain links short of a fidget.
	How long have you been working on that joke?
	Oh, I've already used it.
	Oh, you already used it once.
	I use the chat room as my...
	I think you're winning.
	He is endearing.
	I would, you know.
	Hey, it's Onin, everybody.
	You know what, Onin?
	I was surprised as hell when you jumped in on the Skype call.
	I mean, I lost everybody, all the hosts.
	And when I tried to call everybody back, I think, did I call you or did you call me?
	I called you.
	You called me.
	Michael.
	Okay.
	So I'm glad.
	I'm like, wow, Onin is up there.
	And you jumped in in conversation.
	I thought that was great.
	That was good timing, man.
	So you could join us tonight.
	Look, I can.
	I'm sorry I'm late, guys.
	It's all right, man.
	That's all.
	I can understand why people were enamored by Mr. Fidget, the show that he was on, and he can talk, and he seemed like he sold the product really well on the show.
	And I can understand why people wanted to buy it, and he would have got a lot of orders.
	And obviously, people did send him money.
	But I don't know.
	What does this product actually do?
	You remember, well, maybe you weren't old enough.
	They used to have these little stones with a groove in them so you could rub your thumb.
	And they call them stress reducers.
	That's really what his fidget is.
	It's something to just occupy your fingers when you're.
	Like a squeeze ball or something like that.
	Well, except you won't get it.
	It just hit me.
	The only part of that thread of his that I've actually read was where he talked about some guy on a bus giving him a fidget that he had ordered years before.
	I wanted to ask if that was true or not.
	And it just, I didn't post it in the thread.
	I should have.
	Well, you can.
	You can post it in the thread now, and maybe he might answer it.
	That didn't happen.
	Well, yeah, that's what I wanted to hear from him.
	That didn't happen.
	If there's ever a person who needed a YouTube channel, I think it's him.
	Oh, my God.
	Could be.
	Okay, switch to decaf first.
	No.
	And then get a YouTube channel.
	Yeah.
	I've got one more thing.
	Is Michael still here?
	No, I accidentally hung up on him.
	Well, even better that he's not here.
	I just want Michael to know that all of his success is based off of Mr. Fidget, and I want him to always remember that.
	And I give Onin complete props for being right on top of that.
	And look, if you can't afford a fidget, I would suggest that masturbation is a good substitute.
	Keep your hands busy.
	Yeah, sure.
	Well, of course, if you can't afford a fidget, you can always write the president and he will give you a loan.
	Yeah, he'll absolve you.
	Did you see how he switched when I said grandiosity?
	Because I was talking about him asking for a pardon from the president.
	And he took it into, well, I'm very capable with my hands.
	The only time he gave a short answer is when you asked him if he was diagnosed with mental illness.
	He said not yet.
	And that was a good idea.
	I think we saw some masterful conversation there, the way Onin put him in a box.
	That was kind of nice.
	Yes, and we didn't actually ask which president targeted.
	I think it was Nick Zunder.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Kennedy?
	Well, I wonder if he had something to do with Montauk or Manhattan Project.
	It was hard to understand what was going on, and I wasn't trying to be curt with you guys, but I couldn't take everybody talking at the same time, and I'm sure the listeners didn't know what the hell was going on at a certain point.
	And he's like, I've lost control.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, sorry.
	I kind of just, I had to get my stuff in there.
	And I was like, I'm shutting up after that.
	No, that's cool.
	That's fine.
	We're not trying to silence anybody, but maybe Mr. Fidget.
	It's the first time that I've actually had to mute the Skype callers channel on my mixer so we could talk to him.
	And that seemed to work pretty well.
	You know, one of my favorite things.
	Yeah.
	One of my favorite parts of Falki's YouTube channel is when he yells at his callers.
	So I think it's something you should seriously consider.
	Just start yelling at the callers.
	I hope the guy puts some stuff on the thread because I will buy it.
	Yeah, I totally agree.
	I want to see a video of this actual thing, not just a picture, an actual video.
	He's so completely out of his fucking mind.
	He can't even get his shit together in the loosest way.
	Yeah.
	Well, it almost sounds like a lot of people.
	No, because I think he's this is a guy who's a big fan.
	I mean, I'm just going to make up a scenario here that my feelings go towards.
	This guy is a huge fan of Art Bell, and he incorporated as many different aspects of what he thinks art would like.
	The whole thing about arts cards and time travel, put it all together into this really well-packaged thing.
	He got on the airport.
	Yeah.
	And it didn't stick out nearly as well as it should have from his point of view.
	And he's, you know, just he recently woke up and realized that art's not calling him back.
	Yeah, there was definitely a little bit of butthurt going on there.
	And I think that he took it way too far.
	And I understand.
	I mean, if somebody defrauded me or I felt like I was wrong some way, you know, when I was trying to make right, if I got 50,000 orders for a while, and somebody screwed me over and I felt like I was being wronged, I would be pissed.
	I'd be probably just as pissed as he was.
	But that's not what 17 years.
	After 17 years, I wouldn't be that pissed.
	Grow up.
	He's rolling all these strange events into.
	He wants more attention.
	He just wants more attention.
	Yeah, it could very well be.
	I don't know.
	I don't know what to do.
	It's funny that all these things I think have a very high likelihood of possibility.
	But at the same time, I still want the guy to show up and produce a fidget and be successful.
	Yeah, because I want to buy one.
	Yeah, me being an Apple fanboy, I love the Apple products, but I never really had any interest in meeting Steve Jobs in person.
	Oh, yeah, why would you?
	I think that's about the right time to end the show.
	Don't you guys think we did?
	We've had all we can stand.
	We can't stand anymore.
	We did almost two hours tonight, even though the first 45 minutes was a secret recorded show.
	But I'm glad that we could get the stream back and broadcast to everybody at UFO Ship.
	Thanks to MB, Mr. Fidget, WR250, Unscreen Caller, and Onan Jasmunda, Beedup, and The Mud King.
	Jesus, that's a lot of people that were on the show tonight.
	But thanks to everybody for listening.
	The show will be available to download on UFOShip.com.
	And this is Eddie Dean.
	We'll see you next week, everybody.
	Good night.
	Nice job, Mr. Chow.
	Good night, everybody.
	Switch to decaf.
	Station is nice.
	Get your hand off,

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