Glenn Beck and Stu Burguiere explore spiritual coping, defend Trump's Pearl Harbor jokes, and promote Relief Factor before analyzing the 2028 election. They discuss Chuck Norris's legacy, predict a 50-50 Senate split in 2026, and warn of $160 oil prices if Iran escalates. Ultimately, they debate whether Republican internal divisions will heal or trigger catastrophic outcomes by 2029. [Automatically generated summary]
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But that's an amazing part of the show today you don't want to miss.
Also, has enough time passed to make Pearl Harbor jokes with the Japanese prime minister, comedian-in-chief Donald Trump did yesterday.
And Stu joins the program to talk about the prediction markets and what it looks like for the Senate race at this point.
More on today's podcast.
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I'll play this.
This is Donald Trump yesterday with the prime minister of Japan.
And a Japanese reporter said, why didn't you tell your allies, why didn't you tell Japan before the war?
Listen to what he said.
Of course, no, Japan and US are very good friends, but one question.
Why didn't you tell US allies in Europe and Asia, like Japan, about the war before attacking Iran?
So we are very confused about Japanese citizens.
Well, one thing you don't want to signal too much, you know, when we go in, we went in very hard and we didn't tell anybody about it because we wanted surprise.
Who knows better about surprise than Japan?
Hey, why didn't you tell me about Pearl Harbor?
Okay?
Right?
He's asking me.
Now, you believe in surprise?
I think much more so than us.
And we had a surprise, and we did.
Okay.
Let's joke with the people of Japan.
I think enough time has passed.
I think the statute of limitations, it's like making an Abraham Lincoln assassination joke.
I think we're there.
I think we could do it.
Like John F. Kennedy, what was on his mind?
I don't know.
His mind was probably on the trunk of the car.
That kind of stuff.
I think we're past the statute of limitations.
We can make horrible jokes.
It's not polite.
I shouldn't have made that joke.
I know.
I'm going to burn in hell for it.
Baby Jesus, let me smell your sweet hay of the manger again.
But I think we can get over it.
But no, what president does that?
What president does that?
The greatest president of all time.
I mean, he is just you are.
If you don't find him funny, if you don't get that he is trolling almost all the time, you've missed a sweet, sweet, fun ride.
He's improving network ratings with stuff like this.
And Melissa Chen, brilliant woman.
You should follow her on X, MS Melchen.
She actually collected some of his greatest hits.
Remember when he told Ergon that he knows about rigged elections better than anybody?
Oh my gosh.
That was a good one.
We had the Trump.
Trump sprays the Syrian president with cologne and he asks how many wives he has.
This is this last term.
Oh my gosh.
You got that fatty North Korean guy who loves nukes.
And this was a few, I think it was during his first term.
He said, so we look nice and handsome and thin.
This guy, we don't deserve him.
What I love about that was all the faces of the Japanese press pool looking at each other with that, is it too soon to make that joke comment?
I didn't really know.
Can we laugh too?
I don't know.
This is uncharted water.
Oh, man.
I love it.
I just love it.
Hey, I just got bad news.
It looks like Chuck Norris has died.
The news just broke while we were talking about Japan.
He's a friend of mine.
We've known each other for the longest time.
Chuck Norris: A Normal Man Dies00:05:32
He was one of the most giving men I have ever met and completely normal.
Completely normal.
Here's a guy who is known all over the world, is a megastar everywhere he goes.
Everyone loves him.
And he was Chuck.
He was just a normal guy who dedicated himself to making the lives of children better.
He knew that the discipline of martial arts would change people.
And he started a program here in Texas in some of the harder-hit areas in Texas where kids didn't have dads.
They were falling into drugs and everything else.
And so he started his Kickstart program.
And it changed kids.
My son was really struggling when he was younger.
And we were over at Chuck and Gina's house.
and we stayed overnight, and the next morning, I see him and my son walking outside.
He said, I'm sending somebody to your house because I see greatness in you and I know you're struggling.
I'm sending somebody to your house to get you started on your black belt.
Because once you learn this discipline, everything will change in your life.
And it wasn't because it was my son or me.
That's the way he was with everyone's son or daughter.
I can't tell you I have met a bigger star than Chuck Norris, a man who has accomplished more in his life than Chuck Norris.
And a more regular guy than Chuck Norris.
A lot of that had to do with his wife, Gina.
And I would ask that you pray for Gina.
She was a titan.
I was like, you know, Chuck Norris, you can't hurt Chuck Norris.
You know, you can't hurt Chuck Norris.
Gina will punch you in the face if you come after her husband.
She's an amazing woman, and the two of them together were dynamo, an absolute dynamo.
And he has left more than jokes on how tough he is behind.
He has left a legacy of good and strong young men and women.
So our thoughts are with Gina Norris and the family on the passing of Chuck Norris.
The memes are coming in.
You guys know the memes about Chuck.
He doesn't sleep.
He waits.
When he swims, he doesn't get wet.
There was one that just replied to the post about him passing, and they said, Chuck Norris doesn't die.
He left to beat up the Grim Reaper.
Do you know the story behind those jokes?
No, tell me.
I'm sitting there and we were telling Chuck Norris jokes with him about his favorites and everything else.
And I said, how did this happen?
And he said, Gina comes in one day, and he said, there are these jokes that they're seeing.
And I think it was even before the internet.
I don't remember.
But they see these jokes going around.
And she's like, this has got to stop.
This has got to stop.
And he's like, I think they're kind of funny, but okay.
And their son, Gina, is talking to their son, and she said, this has got to stop.
He said, Mom, uh-uh, this makes dad more popular than ever.
She's like, really?
They had no idea, but somebody had started it, and it just went on and made him really into much bigger of a legend than he ever was.
Perverting Love for Culture Wars00:10:28
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I want to start with JD Princeton.
Talking about what is going to happen in 2028 or 2029 when they win, assuming that they do win.
Listen to this.
What does a Project 2029 agenda look like for you?
I don't think you can speak of it in shorthand, but I'll just say a couple of things that I think are absolutely necessary.
One is we've got to restore the rule of law, and that means holding people accountable who've broken the law.
I'm talking about in this administration when we get a new one.
Stop, stop, Jesus, sweet baby Jesus, be with me.
We have to restore the rule of law.
Sweet baby Jesus, let me smell the hay in your manger.
We have to restore the rule of law.
We have to punish the people who have broken the law.
Come to me now, sweet Jesus, before I lose my ever-loving mind.
We have to punish those who have violated the law.
Let me ask you this.
Could we apply that maybe to the little people?
Could we apply that to people who are, I don't know, stealing from our treasury?
Could we apply that to, I don't know, people who are stabbing people on the streets?
Could we maybe do that?
How about this one?
A damning study of over 1 million kids finds myocarditis only in the vaccinated.
Can I ask you a question?
When will anyone pay any price for the millions of people that have died because of COVID?
When will anyone pay any price?
We're not even talking about stealing from people.
We are talking about killing people.
And quite honestly, follow the science.
Wow, baby Jesus just came to me.
Wow, thank you, Jesus.
Thank you.
Wow, because I almost said things that would have had the show canceled and I would have been in court at FCC.
I would have been in FCC hell.
Thank you, sweet baby Jesus.
They knew.
They knew what they were doing and they did it anyway.
And no one is going to pay any price.
But I guess if you're Donald Trump and you're trying to have ICE follow the law and go and get people who have stabbed people to death or raped children and have them deported, that, for some reason, that needs to be prosecuted.
But not COVID.
Not the people stealing.
Not the people raping children.
None of that.
Not the politicians who have been involved in all of this stuff.
No, Gang?
Marxists do the same thing.
Marxists and Islamists do the same thing in the end.
When they get full power, what do they do?
What do they do?
They purge.
If they get power, they mean it because they do it.
This is what Marxists do.
They purge.
We, oh, he just visited me again.
Thank you.
We must come together.
Oh, my gosh.
Look at this miracle that is happening.
Do you know?
I mean, I want to testify to you now that Jesus comes to you when you really need him.
I was about to lose my mind.
And here I am, what, two minutes later, about to say, we need to love one another.
We need to stop this fighting with one another.
We need to find our way to one another.
We have to stop saying, that person is a traitor and you must hate them.
We have to stop all of that.
We have to come together.
The evil that we are fighting is so profound that we will lose.
And when we lose this time, and I'm not, the sweet baby Jesus grew up.
He preached for a while.
And because it pissed everybody off, they nailed him to a tree.
He rose again for our sins, but he also promised, I'm coming back.
The battle that we are approaching may very well be the final battle before Jesus comes back.
We need to love one another because this one is all hands on deck.
This is all hands on deck.
There's a great sorting that is going on.
And if you don't have the Spirit as your guide, if you are not, if you are looking at everything politically, you're going to get lost.
If you're looking at things because you're angry, you are going to end up on the wrong side.
You won't think you are, but you will be.
I, I, I can't believe I'm here.
What is happening to me?
I testify to you now that we are going to be asked to stand, but not slaughter.
And the way things are going, everybody's getting so hyped up that everyone is a mortal enemy and a traitor.
And our side would purge just as much as their side would.
We are not immune.
That is a human trait.
And we are not to engage in that.
I suddenly know all of this is true.
It's coming.
And we are to love one another and be the example.
We stand for what is right.
If somebody, you know, last night on that special, it was an amazing special.
I don't remember who said it, but one of our experts was talking about how the rape of children is happening in Sharia law.
It's happening all over the world.
And we have gotten to this place to where we won't judge it.
And she was raped as a child.
She was raped.
She was brutalized as a child by her father.
And the school knew it, but the school wouldn't do anything about it because that's their culture.
And that's the problem.
We have gotten to this place to where we have just tried to, we have, they have twisted.
Satan doesn't destroy first.
He perverts.
He takes what's good and he perverts it.
And then he uses it.
And by him using it, it destroys it.
He is the destroyer, but he is the great perverter first.
And he has taken our best traits, our love, our compassion, our wanting to get along, and he has perverted it to the point to where we will sit there and say that young girl is being abused, but that's their culture.
If that's their culture, then we must say that culture is evil.
And we have stopped saying that because our best human traits that come out in the Western society, the best part of us is tolerance, is to get along, is to love one another.
But you must not love that.
It can't harden your heart.
You still need to be filled with compassion.
I have learned so much, Steven in the last week.
We must still guard that best part of our culture and us.
But at the same time, we have to be razor sharp on evil and call it by its name.
Guarding Compassion Against Evil00:15:27
What was done during COVID was evil.
It was evil.
We had people in our own government conspiring to make something absolutely deadly.
They knew exactly what they were doing, but they had such little value in human life that their little experiment was more important than millions of people.
And we went to the most, one of, the most evil countries in the world, China, and we partnered with them because they didn't have a problem doing it and our laws restricted us from doing it.
So let's partner with them and do it in some crazy garage laboratory.
And it went out and then they covered it up.
And then the drug companies were excused and told, don't worry about any kind of liability.
And they conspired with our own politicians all over the world and they killed millions of people.
That's what happened.
Period.
That's the truth.
Period.
And it was evil.
Exclamation point.
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Hello, Stu.
Ah, glad it feels.
It feels like the old days.
I know.
It's so good.
I've missed you.
I really have missed you.
It's been, it's so weird.
It's so weird.
I haven't, man, I haven't gotten up before 2 p.m. in any of these days since I stopped the show.
So this is weird.
I've missed you too, Stu.
Ricky, I've missed you as well.
The bags under my eyes, the morgue that I live in now.
I've worked harder.
I've worked harder now, more now than I've worked maybe in my whole career.
I will say I was watching the special last night.
I could tell.
I could tell, man.
What an in-depth piece of you went really, really deep.
It was amazing just watching it, seeing how many times you have these people admitting this, right?
Like they're admitting they're on record.
You have the quotes.
You have the documents.
That is, you know, it's something that, you know, you think of these things as theory.
And you pointed it out, and I think you're right, where like, obviously you're not talking, some guy you're buying, you know, a meal from at a restaurant is not, these are not the people putting these plans together, but those plans do exist.
There are people in power and these organizations trying to execute them and having success with it.
That is terrifying.
Yeah.
It was terrifying.
If you missed the special, watch it at glennbeck.com slash torch.
I wanted to talk to you about, because you're doing predictable, which is coming out in April.
Yeah, predictableshow.com, by the way.
Please go subscribe.
It's just free.
It's an email.
That's all you need to do.
And all you do is you're looking at all of the betting markets and predicting.
Investment.
Investment, Glenn.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Sorry.
These are investments.
In investment market.
And, you know, we've always said this.
I mean, right after 9-11, it was DARPA that started a prediction market, a betting market, where they were telling people in the five Eyes community, if you're in the CIA, you're in MI5 or MI6, whichever the MIs is, you go ahead and you invest and bet on where you think the next strike is going to be.
And they felt that that was the best way to figure things out because when people put their money into it, they are not just being blowhards.
They're invested in that.
So they really do their homework.
Same thing.
This is what Predictable is all about.
Look at the people who are putting their money behind what they think is going to happen because it's a pretty safe bet.
Investment.
Yes.
I agree because it is true.
And I think it goes certainly.
You were the one who introduced me to that story all those years ago and got me interested in it initially because it's an interesting thing.
You're blaming the show on you.
It's your fault.
In so many ways, it's your fault.
But, you know, that is what you do, right?
Like when you put your money where your mouth is, we can look at polls and polls can give us interesting information.
You can listen to commentary.
We tried, I think, over the years very hard to make sure we weren't doing the type of commentary that was just, hey, this is the thing you're supposed to say today.
Here are all the talking points that everyone runs through.
Here's what's hot on social media.
Let us say it again for you.
Oftentimes, you know, it even frustrated the audience.
Like you get to a place where we might have a different opinion than the audience did and blow this audience off like six times.
Yeah.
And then rebuilt it and then blew it off, rebuilt it, blew it off.
But they're awesome because they understand that, right?
They come here with the idea of like, I want, I don't want to hear what Glenn says.
I might not agree and he might be an idiot on this and that's fine.
It's very common in my experience.
But it was.
No, you're a guest on this show, right?
I am.
Yeah.
But this does, what I love about the prediction markets and predictableshow.com, one of the reasons I wanted to do it is because it cuts through not only what the mainstream media tells us, not only what the campaigns tell us, but also sometimes what our side tells us.
Sometimes, you know, even our side with the best of intentions will give us what we want to hear.
And then you need to.
Tell me anything about the economy, looking at the prediction markets.
Because there is a possibility that everything is being priced in for disaster right now.
All the markets are going, this is going to be a long, drawn-out war.
This is going to be horrible.
Gas is going to be through the roof and oil is going to be $160 a barrel.
If he can shut this off in the next few weeks, it might actually be a boon.
People might go, oh my gosh, it's over, and rush back out.
And it could actually be starter fluid for the economy, which he needed to have.
What do you think of that?
I think it's possible, right?
I do think you've seen this happen multiple times already during just the couple of weeks we've done this, where Tarump has come out and said, yeah, it's only going to be a few weeks.
And the price of oil goes from $115 to $80, right?
And I do think when this is over, that's the type of thing that we'll see, right?
Of course, Iran has a voice in this, unfortunately, and they can make our lives miserable in that region and keep these things high, even if we want to stop it.
And I think Trump's approach, which has been, I think, is probably the correct one, which is if they continue to do what they're doing, they're targeting oil infrastructure, they're targeting our allies in the region, he's just going to start hitting them harder and harder and harder.
Do you see what Hegsey said yesterday?
They're sharing the oceans now with.
We're going to share the oceans with the Iranians.
We're just going to share the bottom half for them.
I didn't hear that line.
It's such a great line.
Hegseph is a quote machine.
I love him.
I mean, it's a reason.
I mean, remember, Blaise alum, by the way.
He was on.
He started here.
He started here before he got on Fox.
He was on the Blaze, and he knows how to phrase it.
Yeah, I think there is a real risk that this could be something that is not something that Trump can control easily.
One of the things he's done with the military, you think of all the things he's done.
He said success after success after success.
And over and over and over again, everyone's told him it was going to end in disaster.
Soleimani, right?
Moving the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
Venezuela, what may be coming with Cuba, all of these things.
Now, that one obviously isn't done yet, but all of these things have provided.
Right.
They said it was going to be a disaster.
We don't have it yet.
I know, but I mean, they said that, I mean, just go just to the NATO part of that.
Yes, right.
I mean, look at what he's doing with NATO right now.
He's telling NATO.
I mean, he's doing to NATO and to Europe what he did to the Democrats in the State of the Union.
He is saying to them, hey, you want to keep oil prices down?
And they're like, no, no, we can't.
We can't help you on that.
They're afraid.
And they know, they're not saying it out loud, but they know the reason why they're not is they're afraid of their own population.
They are afraid of the Islamic terror and they know it.
And at the same time, he's making them look right at that.
Germany can't even raise an army now because too many Islamic militants are in their country.
They can't get them to.
I mean, there's some positive that Germany doesn't have an army.
I'll just say.
But what I'm saying is they know they're screwed.
They know they're screwed.
And he's just pointing that out to them.
Just, hey, we don't need your help.
Like your help.
Why is he asking for that help?
He's not asking it for any reason other than you know you can't do it.
Yeah.
I've been telling you, you're over.
Wake up.
The guy's just a strategic genius.
I mean, and he has taken big bet after big bet after big bet.
And especially with the military, it's just paid off, right?
Yeah.
So that's been, I think.
And that's one thing that does worry me.
Yeah.
You make your biggest mistakes in those moments.
Yeah.
If you become convinced that everything I'm going to do is going to work out that way.
So can I translate the economy stuff to the elections?
Yes.
So, you know, you come into a Senate election, for example, for the first time.
This is now a 50-50 proposition on election markets.
Thanks for jumping by.
I'm done already.
No, go ahead.
It's a 50-50 for the first time Republican Senate control in 2026.
That is, to me, that points to a completely catastrophic outcome.
That's the end of the Trump.
I mean, talk about, you know, it's not just lame duck.
That will be non-stop investigations, impeachment, everything for two years.
They will set the country on fire for two years.
The House is obviously a real, real problem.
That was something like 85% Democratic control.
And I think, honestly, that's pretty well priced.
When we first started talking about this, it was at the high 50s.
And I thought it was, unfortunately, a buy for Democrats at that price.
Now it's at 85%.
I don't know that there's any value left in that if you're looking at it as an investment, but I do think that there is a, you know, the Democrats are heavily favored.
And this is history, right?
We know this.
You know, you go back, I think it is 9% of the time the party in power has been able to hold on to the House.
Senate is a little bit higher.
It's about 30%.
A lot of that has to do with structure.
Unlike a presidential election where all the states are at zero or House, where everyone is elected every time, you kind of have a scoreboard going in to the Senate.
So the scoreboard going into the Senate is 34 Democrats, 31 Republicans, not up for election at all.
So Democrats have a slight lead when you kick off the scoreboard, if you will.
Then you have sort of a bunch of kind of yawn, should be easy seats.
Let's just take that for what it is right now.
If you look at those seats that are solid for either party, you've got nine Democrats.
I can run through them if you want, 16 Republicans.
Most of those you'd look at and you'd say pretty safe, right?
Like Alabama, you don't see necessarily.
We've seen upsets in states like this.
You never know when your favorite candidate is going to show up in a dead person's email about an island.
Like that can happen.
But generally speaking, you'd say like a state like Alabama is going to be pretty safe.
That gets us to 47 Republicans and 43 Democrats.
Then you have leaners, right?
The leaner races for Republicans.
You got Ohio, you have Iowa, and you have Texas.
Now, again, Texas should be easy, right?
They don't put anything.
But Texas is, Texas is in trouble.
And this is why I went into deep and utter mourning.
A couple of the weeks, I just didn't even go online or anything after Jasmine Crockett was defeated.
She was my girl.
One of our torch insiders actually asked this morning, I need to know how devastated Stu was to learn that she may be trailing.
He's wearing a black armband today.
Yeah, there was a lot of wellness checks, I will say, by my left.
That was such a loss.
I wanted her so bad.
Now, Callarico also sucks.
I believe the people of Texas are not going to fall for that.
He just seems like another beto.
And if you remember, you go back, you look early on, there was a lot of risk that, hey, is Ted Cruz going to be beaten by Betto?
And it got close.
It got within a couple of points.
These polls actually look slightly worse than that election for the Republicans, but we're still at a divisive point among the primary.
It did end up at a couple points, though, did it?
It was, yeah, it was several.
I thought it was like eight.
It was in that range.
I can't remember the exact, either the polls or the actual election.
I thought the election was around four.
The final polls were six to eight.
But if you look back at this time with Ted Cruz and Betto, it was more like our six or eight point race.
What we're seeing in the polls right now is actually a slight lead for Tallerico.
Stu, yes.
How is this possible?
We have so many opposition clips on this man.
The most prominent being is that he doesn't really like meat.
You cannot be a candidate in Texas who hates meat.
You can be a co-host on national radio for 28 years.
Barely get by.
I barely state.
The man doesn't like meat.
That's true.
He's got a lot of very weird.
I would argue that's not even his weirdest position.
I can understand why people would say that it is.
But I think one thing that people are forgetting about Texas right now is that we are still at a point where there are two camps on the Republican side that hate each other.
The Paxton camp, the people who love Paxton and really want him to win can't stand Cornyn.
The people who really want Cornyn to win and don't like Paxton, there's a hatred there between those two parties.
They haven't united.
There's still a lot of people in this voting group of Republicans who are saying to themselves, well, if it's Cornyn, forget it.
And there's a bunch of people saying, if it's Paxton, forget it.
Despise John Cornyn.
I am not a fan of him.
I despise him.
I'm not a fan.
But if it's glass, nails, and fire that I have to walk through and he's the guy, unfortunately, in this election, I'm going to be that guy that walks through the glass and the nails and the fire to vote for freaking John Cornyn.
I've argued on the show a hundred times to say, hey, the target for Republicans is to take out in primaries people like John Cornyn in bright red states because that's where we can really make the difference.
You know, trying to go after someone like Susan Collins in Maine is not nearly as profitable for their conservative movement.
So I do think, though, once this primary is over, you're going to see some of that fade as we get closer to this election.
And I do think that you're going to wind up with a Republican as a favorite there.
So give me a final look at the Senate.
Where do you think it ends?
So right there with just the states we've discussed, if you're pulling off Ohio, Iowa, Texas, you should be able to do that if you're anywhere near competent as Republicans.
If you can win those three states, you're at 50.
This is why I think 50%, 50-50 idea on the prediction markets right now for Republicans is pretty pessimistic.
They should be able to win those states, and that's all they have to do basically to get to 50.
And you think about when I think of the Senate, I think of control of the Senate being important for like things like Supreme Court justices.
We've got really old people in there that are awesome, but might be going away.
So you have that.
And then you have five toss-ups.
I have it as Georgia, Maine, Michigan, North Carolina, and Alaska, which is one people aren't talking about yet.
Watch Alaska as a toss-up state.
The Democrats got the candidate they wanted in that race.
You know, the Republicans, not all that popular in the state.
Very risky one in Alaska, which means we could have a very late night if that Senate comes down to that Alaska seat.
Imagine how long we'll be waiting for that one.
But I do think it's a little bit pessimistic to say it's a 50-50 chance.
You're in catastrophe levels.
If oil is $160 a barrel, this is the type of stuff you're looking at and Democrats will win.
I agree with you, though.
Right now, there's a lot of that ultra pessimism priced into this stuff.
So I can be a little bit more optimistic than that.
What do you think the damage is to that is being done by, and I don't want to get into the personalities, but all of the damage that's being done on the splitting of the base, and I don't think it's as bad as people think, but there is a problem of the base being split hard.
Is that damn?
I mean, I mentioned a new show on Blaze TV.
Stu and Dave DewAmerica and predictableshow.com.
Thanks so much for having me.
I don't want to drag.
I don't want personality talk.
You know how I am.
Well, you know, and this is something I think you've tried to achieve and I have as well.
It's like, I don't do a show about other people's shows.
That's not what I, if you want to hire me to do a show to review someone else's podcast, I suppose you can make an offer.
Not that interested in it, right?
That's not why I got into this.
I think it's a real problem how this has become about the personalities.
Right.
So what I'm asking you is, is that real or healable by the time we get, is it going to continue to grow?
I tend to think that as we get closer to this election, a lot of that stuff's going to wind up healing.
We saw it in 2016 with Donald Trump.
I mean, there was massive divides between Trump and Cruz and all these other candidates.
And by the end of that, people were pretty united.