Glenn Beck announces co-host Stu's departure after 28 years, joking about a promised Lotus car while analyzing nine ICE-related deaths in 2026, including Geraldo Lunas Campos and Keith Porter. He identifies three "red lights" like identity warfare and factional truth replacement, alongside "yellow lights" such as debt saturation and "green lights" including constitutional citations. Beck introduces George AI and Glenn AI, trained on founding documents and his career respectively, to counter mainstream narratives. Ultimately, he reaffirms his commitment to independent truth over political loyalty or blind ideological following. [Automatically generated summary]
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Unbelievable ICE now has killed nine people this year.
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Tomorrow, guys, Stu's last day on the show, the second time he has quit this show.
That's not accurate.
I don't know if there'll be a third.
I don't know if there'll be a third, but a second time he's quit the show.
And he'll be here tomorrow for his last, last exciting episode.
Looking forward to it.
We'll be talking about what I'm doing next as well.
I'm excited about that.
Yeah, yeah, whatever.
At 30, the 30th anniversary, you know what I was getting you.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, no, I don't.
Yes, you do.
I was going to get you a Lotus, a car of your dreams.
I was going to get you a lotus for your 30th.
What do you get for 28 years?
What do you get for 28 years?
A paper pirate's hat.
And I don't mean a pirate like Army Maybe.
I mean a pirate's hat.
I want the audience to understand what the audience needs to understand how manipulative this is.
I went through a five-year anniversary, a 10-year anniversary, a 15-year anniversary, a 20-year anniversary, and a 25-year anniversary with I think maybe there was one bacon, egg, and cheese biscuit offered at maybe five years.
No, there was nothing.
Nothing.
No, there was nothing.
And now at 28 years, 28 years, I'm leaving.
Saving it for the 30th.
The 30th, not the 25th, which would be the obvious big one, but the 30th was when the $200,000 car was going to show up.
Well, it's only because, and this is the honest God's truth, and you know it's true, because I got you a hat and a t-shirt of Lotus.
You got me a hat.
That is true.
You got me a hat and a t-shirt, which is more than you got me at my 20th century.
Because what happened was, what happened was I was talking to a friend of mine.
He's like, you did nothing.
You did nothing.
And I'm like, I didn't even think about it.
We were on the air one day ago going, how many years has it been?
25 years?
So I decided right then and there, 30th Lotus.
No, I want to make sure I understand.
So the 25th year, you was 26, I think.
And that's not true.
25th year, we talked about it during the 25th year.
And literally the conversation was, oh, wow, 25 years.
Wow.
And that was it.
But at 30 years, you were going to buy me this car after and you only tell me it after I tell you that I'm leaving.
After 20 years.
I'm not going to tell you beforehand, hey, you know what you're going to get?
No, I'm not going to tell you that beforehand.
This is such a scam.
I hope the audience knows the believer.
The fraudulent person you literally believe on a day-to-day basis.
Hey, Sarah.
Sarah, who do you believe?
Which one of us do you believe?
Oh, you are so dead.
Oh, it's risky.
You're still working here.
I've been here 18 years.
I haven't gotten anything.
Yeah, thank you.
Is that 30?
Is that 30?
Is that even 20?
No.
No.
And you haven't gotten anything.
You have my love and respect deep.
That is not true at all.
Respect?
You don't want to.
Oh, yeah, that's definitely not true.
I will say, by the way.
I'll get you a bottle of booze.
You'll be fine and you'll forget about how many years you've worked.
Oh, she'd love that.
She would love that.
Even if it was just like the generic Volker brand.
No, I can give her Thunderbird and she'd be fine.
Yeah, totally fine.
This is the love and respect we were talking about.
Excellent.
So tomorrow, we say our final goodbyes because we're never going to talk to him again.
Wait, he's dead to me.
He's dead to me.
Really?
Tomorrow you're going to reveal.
Tomorrow you're going to reveal what you are going to do, right?
Because I know what you're going to do.
Yes.
You at least know part of it.
But yeah, it's going to be a really interesting thing, I think.
I think people will be interested in it.
And we'll talk about it tomorrow with all the details and where you can go to get involved.
It's going to be fun.
I've worked weeks on jokes for this.
I've worked weeks on jokes.
I don't need you to joke about it.
I would like you to say, hey, that's a great thing.
People should join up.
I'm supportive.
Stu.
Stu, that is the relationship we have here.
We hammer each other to death.
And tomorrow, I guess I get the last word.
I guess I get the last word.
I mean, this is going to be a disaster.
Tomorrow is going to be wonderful.
I should just call in sick, honestly, is what I should do.
I should just call in Zick tomorrow.
General Strike.
You know what you don't get?
You don't get the pirates' hat.
You don't get the pirates.
Are you serious?
You don't get it.
You don't get it.
I'm just saying.
I appreciate that.
Thank you, Glenn.
Thank you.
For wonderful 28 years.
And obviously we almost got to that really important, everyone talks about 30th year anniversary.
It's only because I didn't pay attention to the other one.
I started feeling guilty at 25.
And I'm like, you know what?
Gosh, Tommy must be so lucky.
I don't want to pay you.
And I was like, what am I thinking?
I mean, he's been getting lotuses like crazy every single year.
The Child Molester's Suicide00:09:01
So hopefully.
Oh, I forgot about all the lotuses I have, the low tie that I have in my garage.
You know, this is exactly what I would expect out of you.
I'm sure Tanya's a very lucky woman to be able to get this sort of attention.
And of course, you could always make the 25th right.
There's no reason that you couldn't just say, hey, by the way, ordered this for you, just came in.
I just totally believe it.
So, but no, go ahead.
We'll wait till 30.
I appreciate all of them.
No, no, no.
I could order it and have it come in.
It wouldn't be going to you because you'd no longer be an employee.
So, I mean, Sarah, would you like a lotus?
Okay.
Sarah, look good at a lotus, I will say.
Sarah would like a lotus.
Sarah, are you the longest-running employee now?
Me and Nick Ty, yeah.
Nick Daly, you and Nick tied.
It's going to be a very expensive 30th.
Anyway, go ahead.
Remind me.
This is company policy, by the way.
Glenn's going to have a mass firing spree at 29 years every time.
It's 29.
Oh, God, I'm dead before everybody hits 30 years.
All right.
Anyway.
Do we have time?
Do we want to go through some of this Alex Pretty stuff we were discussing earlier?
The crap that's going around social media.
Give me a couple.
Give me a couple.
Okay.
So ICE has killed nine people so far in 2026, says every social media.
ICE did.
ICE.
Or ICE did.
ICE has.
ICE did.
ICE has killed nine people so far in 2026.
Alex Pretty, Renee Goode, Keith Porter, Aber Sanchez Dominguez, Victor Manuel Diaz, Paradila, Luis Beltran, Yanez Cruz, Luis Gustavo, Nunez Caceres, and Geraldo Lunas.
Rivera?
No, he's still around.
Campos.
Oh, he's still.
So you got those nine.
Now, a couple.
So I haven't heard any of those.
Yeah, I mean, I heard the first couple.
Yeah, first couple, right?
So Alex Pretty, we know that whole story.
We've been talking about it.
Rene Good, you know that whole story.
And we've been talking about it.
Let me give you some of the others, though, because you'd think, and of course, everyone retweeting it has not actually looked at what has happened with those situations.
But I decided maybe we should.
So this is what we have.
Geraldo Lunas Campos.
He was a Cuban immigrant, and his death was at an ICE facility ruled a homicide.
An investigation is going on.
In a statement, they said he was pronounced dead after experiencing medical distress.
He became disruptive while in line for medication, refused to return to his assigned dorm.
He was subsequently placed in segregation while in segregation.
He was observed in distress, and they brought in medical personnel.
In the autopsy, it was ruled a homicide due to asphyxia.
So it's possible he was just murdered or, you know, he was resisting and there was a struggle.
They're going through that investigation now.
And before he- No one deserves investigation.
I would agree.
That's the one I think, like, hey, we need to know what the truth of that is.
If it is some terrible thing, we should know about it.
I will note this might adjust your sympathy level a little bit.
He had prior convictions, including sexual contact with a minor.
So this, now, look, that doesn't mean he should be murdered in prison if that's what happened.
Well, at least not by authorities.
I mean, if a child predator is murdered in prison, at least don't, let's not have the authorities do it.
Right, for sure.
For sure.
But again, yes, a child molester died in questionable circumstances.
But that, okay, you want to include that list.
But I still wanted to investigate.
I just feel like you should note that, by the way, this guy was a child molester and that's why he was in prison.
Yes.
Okay.
Then we have, again, this is 2026 killings by ICE, murders by ICE.
Active shooter or ICE agents victim?
What happened in LA?
New Year's Eve killing is the headline of this next one, which is interesting because it's 2026 and it happened on New Year's Eve.
So they couldn't even put it.
It wasn't happened yet.
It hadn't even happened.
No, well, it's in 2025 New Year's Eve.
They couldn't even get that right away.
Anyway, this is about Porter is his last name.
It's Keith Porter.
He was actually shot by an ICE agent.
It is true this time.
He was shot by an ICE agent.
During a big ICE raid?
Was he going to a home depot?
Was Ice driving by and just firing into home depots to see if they could hit illegal immigrants?
That might be what you think.
In reality, what happened was an ICE agent was at home on New Year's Eve in his home, off duty, just home.
And he decided when he heard a bunch of gunshots outside to go out and make sure there wasn't an active shooter situation going on, which is what he believed.
Early.
What's that?
Yeah, that bastard.
Went out there, by the way.
Early news reports after the incident said that Porter, the victim here, quote unquote, was firing an assault-style rifle.
Now, you might say, well, what?
That's just what reporters are saying.
Well, there is a defense, and it is important to hear the defense.
We should note this was not an ICE investigation.
It was an ICE agent who was off duty at home protecting his home.
That's what happened.
So totally out of what we're talking about normally, but there is a defense for Porter from his family.
Porter's loved ones and advocates say they believe he was ringing in the new year by firing a gun into the air over and over again.
That happens in the Middle East all the time.
All the time.
Now it's a long time.
All the time.
And those bullets, by the way, those bullets never come down.
Never come down.
They just keep going.
They just keep going.
Deep into space.
They never come down.
One of the complaints by the family, by the way, is that the other people who were also firing guns into the air at the time, they didn't get shot.
So that is their big defense on that one.
Next up, parody law.
Parody law.
Now, he's a criminal illegal alien from Cambodia, convicted of receiving stolen property, robbery, criminal conspiracy, theft, DUI, forgery, intentional possession of a controlled substance, violating probation, receiving stolen property, another intentional possession of a controlled substance, and another claim of for another conviction of forgery.
He's been doing this.
But he's never touched a child.
That's true.
I'd rather have parody law around than the other guy.
But this happened over a period of 20 years while he was here illegally.
20 years.
He was arrested by ICE agents outside of his Upper Derby home, transferred to detention center where he received treatment for severe withdrawal.
So he was heavily addicted to opioids, had a withdrawal.
When they saw he had a withdrawal, the staff immediately administered CPR and several doses of naloxone.
He then was transported to the hospital in critical condition and passed away.
So again, he wasn't murdered by ICE.
He had extreme withdrawal.
They tried to save his life multiple times and were unsuccessful.
Then we have Luis Beltran Yanez Cruz, Glenn, another one of these ICE murder victims.
Again, another guy.
He was deported already, came back in.
He was a Honduran national, died after he was admitted into the hospital having heart-related issues.
He had a heart attack.
That's another murder, apparently.
Luis Gustavo Núñez Caceres.
Yes, Glenn, you'll be surprised to hear another illegal immigrant.
He was pronounced dead January 5th in Houston after being treated for chronic heart-related issues.
So ICE is now putting cholesterol into the veins of these illegal immigrants and causing heart attacks.
Wow.
Shocking.
But died in U.S. custody.
That's the important parts, dude.
Died in.
How old was this guy?
That guy, I think one of them was 68.
One of them was 42.
Who has a heart attack at 68?
Yeah, that's shocking, shocking, shocking.
Shocking.
A couple more shocking ones, Glenn, before we go.
Eber Sanchez Dominguez is another guy on this list.
ICE murdered him.
And if you want to ask him the details about this, obviously difficult because he's dead.
But I think he would have a particular opinion as to whether he was murdered by ICE, largely because he murdered himself by hanging.
He committed suicide in the prison cell, yet he's included on the list of ICE murders.
They found him in the cell hanging, but that's ICE's murder.
And then, of course.
Wait a minute.
Paper sheets.
I don't know.
It's a good question.
Paper sheets.
It might have not been ICE.
It could have very well been Hillary Clinton.
That's true.
True.
I'm just saying it.
Last one on the list here, Glenn.
Victor Manuel.
Victor Manuel Diaz.
Victor Manuel Diaz.
Did ICE murder him?
Red Light Number Two00:12:47
I don't know.
Let's ask him.
It's hard to tell because he also killed himself in prison at the sprawling tent complex at the U.S. Army's Fort Bill Base in El Paso.
He killed himself.
Now, maybe we'll find out later.
Big setups.
You know, they came and they put him on the end of that rope.
All of these, of course, deserve when you have someone who dies, deserve investigation, but it does not at all appear.
And there's any evidence supporting the fact that they were murdered.
Have to tell you, I don't have a problem looking into all of that.
No problem looking into all that.
You know, if something foul was happening, I want those people, you know, maybe we'll find that out.
Corrected, whatever it is.
But yeah, I don't think the nine people were murdered.
Anyway, this is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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We'll tell you what happened yesterday.
And there's a lot of those.
And they'll give you an opinion.
I personally think the world has enough opinions, and you certainly don't need mine.
I think my job really needs to be as somebody who can see slightly over the horizon and show you what these things mean, what's happening, what happened yesterday, what they mean to you today.
More importantly, what does this mean if these things continue to go in the direction that they're going?
So we cannot ignore these warning signs and look at them through history and through common sense.
So if we were an early warning system, there would be some lights on the panel that are flashing today.
Some would be red, some would be yellow, and some would actually be green.
So let me just go through all of these things because it matters.
Not everything would be red, you know.
But panic is what you feel after you have ignored the warnings or you didn't know that was a warning.
You didn't hear about it.
So let me read the panel for you honestly here.
There's some red lights flashing today that you need to know.
And these are not political opinions.
They are historic danger signs.
I've checked these back and forth with history because I'm looking at history now and saying, where are we?
You know, in Rome or in France, where are we in history?
One of the biggest warning signs that I see right now is red light number one, and that would be the loss of nuance.
This one is blinking really hard, and you see it in the Pretty conversation.
There is no nuance here.
A healthy society can hold two ideas at the same time.
An unstable society cannot do that.
And right now, we're losing the ability to say somebody can be really guilty and a bad guy and mistreated.
Law enforcement can be necessary, needed, doing their job and fallible.
Protests can be legitimate and infiltrated by insurrectionists.
Those things are all true, but America can't see that anymore.
And that's when, you know, when everything collapses into all good or all evil, there is no moral clarity anymore.
That's moral laziness.
Rome didn't fall when people disagreed.
America has never falled when we disagree.
Rome and America will fall when disagreement becomes identity warfare.
That light is bright, bright red in America.
Warning sign, red light number one.
Red light number two, faction over truth.
Truth, you know, you know what the name Israel means?
The name Israel means to wrestle with God.
Now, how could Israel be the chosen people if they wrestle?
Their name says wrestle with God.
Because truth is meant to be wrestled with.
It's meant to be argued about, wrestled with, thought about, argued about.
Tearing it apart, tearing yourself apart at night.
The only way I am who I am, the only reason why I know who I am is because I wrestled with everything in me.
I tore myself apart.
What is it I really believe?
What is worth living for?
What's worth dying for?
What's worth arguing about?
What's not?
What's true?
But now, truth is something we argue for like a team.
And facts no longer persuade.
All they do now is signal allegiance.
That's really dangerous.
That's a late stage indicator.
Once truth bends to faction, power then replaces persuasion every time in every civilization in all of history.
And that light is flashing red.
All of these things are coming in Minnesota.
Red light number three, organized disorder.
Not protest.
Protest is needed.
Protest is important.
Protest is constitutionally protected.
No matter what anybody says, everyone has a right to go out and protest what ICE is doing.
Everyone has a right to go out and protest what some of these judges are doing by not enforcing what some of these cities are doing by saying you're a sanctuary city.
You have a right to protest.
You have a right to protest the law.
You have a right, but you don't have a right to disrupt the law.
You have a right to go protest the people who make the law to get them to change the law.
You have a right to go and stand peacefully and protest the cops, if that's what you want, or ICE, but you do not have the right to engage and disrupt the law.
When unrest becomes coordinated, when it becomes professionally funded, strategically disruptive, and shielded by moral confusion, because there's no morality here.
It's moral confusion.
That's no longer a spontaneous civic expression.
It's not.
That is pressure being applied to the system.
Rome faced this.
Internal destabilization.
It was justified as the will of the people.
Red light, red light, red light, red light.
Pay attention, America.
Red light.
Now, there's some other things that are flashing and I want to go through that are yellow lights.
And they're serious, but they're not fatal at this point.
These are warnings, not verdicts.
Yellow light number one, currency confidence.
Gold is rising.
And the way gold is rising, it's not a collapse announcement.
It is a stress gauge.
It is a very important, do you know what gold is up to today?
It is trading now today, at least a few minutes before I went on the air.
Futures were trading at as high as $5,600 an ounce.
It was $4,900 an ounce on Friday.
I'll give you some historic comparisons of this here in a few minutes.
It's not good.
Now, gold doesn't predict dates.
All that gold does is reflect trust or the lack of it.
And when people begin to move towards hard assets, what they're saying is, I'm not sure any of these promises hold.
Well, what promises are those?
Promises of we're a stable society.
We are not going to spend ourself into oblivion.
That our government and our Congress gets it and they're going to stop spending so much and borrowing so much.
They no longer believe that NATO can hold the world together.
America can hold the world together.
They know things are beginning to get really dicey.
It's a yellow light and it is trending hotter every day.
Pay attention to that.
Now, yellow light number two.
This goes along with yellow light number one, debt saturation.
Debt isn't immoral, but debt that can't be discussed honestly and paid back is immoral and it's dangerous.
When a nation stops saying, how are we going to pay this bill?
When the nation says, who's going to pay this bill?
Who bears the burden of this bill?
Or they stop asking, what happens if confidence breaks?
That's what's happening with gold.
What happens if people start to believe we're not going to pay this back?
That's when debt becomes corrosive and deadly.
Now, we're not Rome yet, but this gauge is rising.
Yellow light number three, institutional distrust.
This goes with the red lights I gave you and the yellow lights.
Not skepticism, but distrust.
Skepticism is healthy.
Skepticism is the American system.
What are the first five rights in the First Amendment?
You have a right to freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of press, freedom of assembly, meaning you can go and assemble in the streets, and freedom of petition.
You can petition your government.
I want answers.
So skepticism is our First Amendment, and it's healthy.
Distrust is paralyzing.
When people believe the courts are illegitimate, that it doesn't matter.
You have to be connected.
You have to be on one side or the other.
If they believe elections are meaningless, law enforcement is either sacred and can make no mistakes or evil and can do no good.
The system loses its elasticity, its ability to stretch and bend the way it has to.
That's yellow, not red, but close enough to pay attention because it's getting deeper yellow.
Before I break, there are some green lights.
Let me give you that because these matter more than most people think because the green lights are important.
Green light number one.
These are good things.
We're still arguing about right and wrong.
We're still having those debates.
Collapsing societies stop arguing about morality.
They argue only about power, and we're still arguing about justice and what it means, limits, rights, responsibility.
That's not decay.
That's conscience.
It's still alive.
That's a green light.
That's a good light.
Green light number two.
The Constitution still exists and it's still being cited.
Rome ruled by decree.
We're still fighting over the documents.
It's getting a little sketchy, but we're still arguing it.
And that tells you something powerful.
People still believe rules matter, even when they break them.
It's green, but it's fragile.
Green light number three.
I'm able to get on the air and speak to you about these warnings.
MSNBC is able to get on the air and speak to you about what they see as warning signs.
Rome silenced its warnings.
We are today still able to have them on the air legally.
Both sides.
That alone means this system is not finished.
Early warning signs only matter before the catastrophe.
And here's the most important thing to remember.
Red lights do not mean doom.
They mean choice.
Make a choice.
Civilizations don't collapse because warnings exist.
They collapse because warnings are mocked, politicized, or ignored.
So the question is, not are we Rome?
The question is, will we do what Rome didn't do and respond to the warning signs while the lights are still on?
Because once the panel goes dark, there are no more warnings.
Pay attention to the warning signs today.
Red Lights Mean Choice00:09:05
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Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.
We're working really hard on a few things for you.
Every day we do something with George AI and Glenn AI, and I want to explain what that is.
George AI is something that I have built.
This is not ChatGPT.
This is something that my team, my tech team has built.
I hired a really good tech group about, I don't know, eight months ago or so, to build the AI part of my next phase of my life for education.
And George AI is a fully proprietary system that has the library that I have collected and David Barton and Mercury One has collected over the years.
It is the largest library, third largest in the world for founding documents.
It's the largest private library on the founding, goes from the Pilgrims, and we've put up until about 1820 all of the documents and everything else.
And it is very early on in this.
And right now we are using it to create what is called George AI.
Jason, what is George AI on today?
George AI today is on, I was kind of motivated by the Borders Are heading to Minneapolis and taking charge, the general, Tom Homan.
So I did it specifically on what the founders would have thought about the need for or the importance to the American project of having a strong and secure border and the proper enforcement of immigration laws.
Is there even a debate on that?
Not only is there a debate, but if they do agree with that, why do they agree with it?
Reference all the founders, and it's pretty enlightening.
So people know, how do you get people, because people say, well, it's not ChatGPT.
How does it understand Minneapolis?
Can you explain this process real quick?
Yeah, specifically in this one, I didn't give any.
So normally if I have to do that, I give a hypothetical situation and I have to type into it when I'm doing the prompt exactly what the hypothetical situation is.
And at one point, I even put a hypothetical, I said the Department of Homeland Security, it obviously didn't know what that was.
And it sounded like this was going to kick off a whole nother debate.
I actually have to do that one tomorrow because that one might be interesting.
But anything that's happening that they wouldn't know about, I have to hypothetical into it.
So, and that stuff is not kept.
It's purged out of the memory.
So it is, we're keeping it clean.
It is only stuff from the only things that the founders either wrote themselves or would have influenced that we know influenced their thinking at the time.
That's all that's in there.
And when it goes to Glenn AI, this again is not ChatGPT.
You could go and ask, you know, ChatGPT, hey, what would Glenn Beck think about?
And it would, I don't know, might get it right, might get it wrong, but it wouldn't be me for sure.
Glenn AI is all of my words, everything that I have ever said, printed, spoken on TV or radio, many of the stuff that I've said in speeches, 30 years of that, all put into, again, proprietary technology, and it cannot take anything from the outside.
So if you asked it about the, you know, the earthquake of 89 in, you know, in San Francisco, it probably wouldn't be able to find anything and tell you anything about it because it doesn't have that information.
It's only the things that I spoke into it.
So they are very, very different.
And every day we provide one of those things for you.
And we are guarding our credibility and making sure that everything we do with AI is marked AI.
So you know it is really important that you know some things are made by AI.
This one is the authentic real deal.
And we have to guard our credibility.
And I am working really hard on that because I, as I said to you earlier today, I believe in five years, credibility is going to be the only thing that has any value because no one's going to believe anything within five years.
Nothing will be believable.
And I think five years is an outside wall, which is why it really bothers me when people say, you know, Glenn Beck, you're just a shill for Donald Trump.
Not a shill for Donald Trump.
I'm not a shill for anybody, for anybody.
I mean, anybody who has actually listened to this show, you know that I criticize him hard when I believe he deserves it, publicly, clearly, without any hedging.
And I also praise him when I believe he earns it, just as publicly and just as clearly.
That's not loyalty.
That's judgment.
And I'm telling you this because this is how we all have to start to be.
We all have to just be fair down the middle.
I'm not for a man.
I'm for truth.
I'm not for a team.
I'm for truth.
And truth is really inconvenient because it refuses to stay on one team.
I was just talking to Jonathan Turley.
I've got an interview with him coming out next week with his book.
And yesterday we were talking and he said, you know, I said to him, I said, you know, Jonathan, the reason why I love you is because you are so much like the Constitution.
The Constitution always doesn't always cut my way.
The Constitution doesn't always say, you know what, Glenn, you're right.
Sometimes it's like, Glenn, you're a dummy.
Yeah, you're wrong.
And then you have a decision to make.
I'm either going to deny the truth or I'm going to go, well, okay, well, the Constitution says that's wrong.
So I guess I got to follow the Constitution.
And I like those people who challenge me.
Like those people who I can't always, you know, put into a box.
You know, I've said repeatedly, in moments like what we're seeing right now in Minnesota, I may be wrong, but I lay out what I'm seeing and I explain the pattern that I believe is forming.
And then I do something apparently that drives people crazy.
I tell you what to watch for next.
I give you the markers and the timelines and the signals because analysis without accountability is propaganda.
That's it.
If the facts change, I have to change with it and I have to tell you that.
And that's not a weakness.
Do that in your own life.
That's not weakness.
That's integrity.
You know, people have been saying, you know, shit for Donald Trump because I've said recently, I don't find Donald Trump's negotiation skill remarkable.
I don't.
I find it sometimes otherworldly.
It's so good.
But there's a pattern that you have to watch from.
It's not, is he so good?
It's his pattern.
And if you watch the pattern, the way he reframes, he pauses, he lets others overplay their hand.
And then he quietly gets everything he always wanted all along.
But could I be wrong about the things that he's doing right now?
Yes.
And I say so.
Every time I talk about one of the things I'm praising him for, I'm like, I hope this is what it is.
It could be wrong.
But I think, you know, there are two possible paths ahead of us all the time.
And there's two things that, you know, you get up in the morning and you can believe two things that are objective.
One, I'm ugly.
Two, I'm a pretty good looking person.
They're objective.
I mean, they're not objective.
They're subjective.
Okay.
There is no truth to that one way or another.
Why do we always, on subjective things, why do we always pick the damaging one?
Why do we always go, yeah, I'm really ugly?
Why?
And when it comes to truth, those are not subjective.
But we will pretend it is and then we pretend we have certainty on that.
I just want people to watch the evidence, watch it with me, correct me.
You know, here's what troubles me: we've lost the ability to hold hope without surrendering our brains.
Some people say Donald Trump is the savior.
That confuses me.
He's a man.
He's not our savior.
He's the only man that can do it.
Well, he is one of the only men.
I mean, I can't think of another that can do it, but he's not going to be the savior of us all.
And at the same time, other people say he's folded, he's sold out, and they raise that, you know, he's raised a white flag.
And that confuses me just as much because both positions demand faith without any evidence.
And they're pointed in opposite directions.
I reject both of those.
I mean, we have a choice right now.
You can go full black pill if you want, assume betrayal is inevitable, that nothing matters, that discernment is naive, that all roads lead to someplace very, very dark.
Or we can do something far more difficult.
We can learn from history.
We can face the facts honestly.
We can choose optimism only if the facts support it, not fantasy, not blind trust, not, you know, measured hope.
Just let's not be a shill.
Let's be an adult.
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And one thing, because I've been thinking about this all week, it's been bothering me, and it'll bother me until I get it off my chest.
I'm a recovering alcoholic.
I know what it feels like to lose your word.
Because alcoholics, if you're an alcoholic or recovering alcoholic, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
You lied to everybody in your life.
You covered everything for your whole life while you were drinking.
You were drinking and telling everybody you weren't.
You had a problem and you told everybody you didn't.
I mean, you're really good at lying.
I was really good at looking in the mirror and lying even to myself.
Really good.
And eventually your promises to yourself and your promises to everybody else eventually mean nothing.
And I remember the time when I was at my most broken and I realized I didn't have anyone in my life at all, anyone who knew me, anybody who would listen to me, nothing, nothing.
Nobody believed a word I said because they shouldn't have because I was a liar.
I was an alcoholic.
My whole life was a lie.
And all I said, I made a pact with the Lord.
I will do exactly what you asked me to do to the best of my ability if you will just help me regain the trust of people.
I just want to look somebody in the eye and say, this is true as I understand it.
And them to go, okay, Glenn, they might think I'm wrong, but at least they know I believe it.
And I vowed that I would never, ever violate that again.
I would never give it away, not for approval, not for power, not for money, not for access, nothing.
And I have spent 35 years rebuilding that bond.
And I am not going to throw it away for a politician or better podcast numbers or for applause or any of that.
Never.
If you're listening to this show, you should know I am not, nor am I trying to get on Trump's good guy list.
Would I like to be there?
Yes.
Am I?
No.
I'm not on his bad guy list either.
I don't think.
I could be.
I don't want to be on any list, okay?
When I think somebody's right, I'll say so.
When I think they're wrong, I'll say that too.
And if I'm wrong either direction, I'll reevaluate and I'll apologize.
And I have a long track record of that.
Here's the deal I made with myself.
I'm not going to break that.
And it's the deal I make with you.
I'll tell you what I believe.
I could be wrong, but it's what I believe.
And I ask you to do that too.
And if that's what you want in a host, you're in the right place.
But if you want a host that always agrees with you, who never challenges you, who never asks you to reconsider, never admits uncertainty, then you know what?
You're probably right.
This is not the show for you.
But actually, as I have been thinking about it, that actually makes me sad because I value people who don't think like me.
I hire people that don't think like me.
I learn from people who don't think like me.
It sharpens my own thinking.
I'm sharper because of them.
But when disagreement instantly becomes you're a sellout, you're on the wrong team, you're on the wrong side of history, and it is absolutely known by the other person.
What do you do when curiosity becomes betrayal, when humility becomes weakness?
Well, for me, that tells me something.
Team jerseys are on too tight.
Whatever that team is that people want me to be on, I'm not on that team.
And I hope you're not either.
I'm a thinking human being.
I am an individual to act, not to be acted upon.
I have my own mind, my own conscience, my own point of view, my own responsibility.
And I am inviting you every day if you're willing to be the same kind of person.