Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn Beck to expose the Minnesota insurrection as a sophisticated operation involving judges, officials like Brad Tebke, and foreign actors, with citizen investigators revealing Signal groups coordinating violence at 2614 Nicolette. They argue that corrupt politicians and ideologues termed "Turtle Island people" benefit from chaos, while NSA failures allow fraud to persist alongside claims of ICE-related murders in 2026. Roy warns Republicans must win upcoming elections to prevent gun confiscation and censorship, urging the invocation of the Insurrection Act against obstructing sanctuary cities. Ultimately, the discussion frames the unrest as a calculated threat requiring extraordinary nonviolent resistance to preserve the republic against those seeking its destruction. [Automatically generated summary]
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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.
We're glad that you're here today.
It is Wednesday.
Everything is downhill from here.
And boy, do I mean that everything is downhill from here?
Well, no, actually, no.
There's some really good news to report on Minnesota and what is happening.
But we are in a very dangerous place right now.
And I want to give you perspective and the news, what it means and what it means going forward from here.
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Okay, let me start with one question, and then I'm going to give you some facts of what has happened just in the last 24 hours that is pretty remarkable.
I've never seen this before.
Once again, pulling that old phrase out of the bag that we say almost every day.
Wow, never seen that one before, but I haven't seen this one before, and it's really good news.
But let's start with this.
When you watch something on TV, when you see something on social media, before you do anything, the one question you should ask is, who benefits from this if I believe it?
Who benefits from this event that is happening right now?
Whenever there is any kind of chaos, just ask that one question.
Not who's angriest, not who's loudest.
Who benefits from this?
Because chaos is really never, ever neutral.
So let me walk through this slowly here.
Somebody dies in the street.
The family has now lost everything.
They don't get justice.
They don't get peace.
They get a lifetime of questions.
When an officer fires a weapon, whether it's justified or not, he carries that moment forever.
He's human.
There is no victory there.
Only wait.
Communities, when that happens, communities lose trust, businesses close, neighbors stop speaking to each other.
Fear fills the gap where understanding used to live.
So ask yourself, when those things happen, who wins?
Who benefits?
Not the dead, not the wounded, not the grieving.
But if it goes beyond that event and it starts to go on the street, then you can begin to see somebody who might benefit because the winners are always the same.
The organizers who need outrage to survive.
Have you noticed the reaction is exactly the same from the organizers in Minneapolis, whether it is true or not.
They kidnapped this little boy and they just, they were holding him hostage.
Not true.
But the reaction was exactly the same.
You got to get to the streets.
You got to get to the streets.
You got to get to the streets or donate, donate, donate.
Okay.
Fundraisers who monetize grief.
Ideologues who believe that collapse is progress.
I'm not talking about your average person who votes Democrat or votes differently than I do or you do.
I'm talking about the people who actually believe America is Turtle Island.
And if you don't know what the Turtle Island thing is, good.
Good.
You're not one of them.
The deep Marxists that believe that this is all stolen land.
All of it needs to be returned.
America was a mistake.
That's not the average person in America.
But that is the organizer that is organizing all of these things in Minneapolis.
Who else benefits?
politicians who thrive on division.
We have gone now in Minneapolis, you're seeing a couple of things.
If you ask who benefits and you get to politicians, you can see a couple of things.
One, politicians who are thriving on, you know, us all being divided, keeping us divided.
So we're not thinking, we're just blindly following them.
And the other politician who is corrupt, who is part of a very corrupt machine that has been bilking the system of millions and hundreds of millions of dollars for a very long time, and they now know they're close to getting caught.
They benefit from chaos.
Okay.
This is a machine that turns pain into power.
And here's the part that we don't always like to admit.
These movements don't just react on tragedy.
They depend on tragedy.
Talked to you yesterday, and I'll talk a little bit more later about reconciliation.
Reconciliation starves all of this.
Peace exposes them.
Love breaks the spell.
And it's the only thing that will break the spell for the average person who votes differently, not the Turtle Island people.
Escalation feeds the machine.
So that brings us back to the idea that so many people said yesterday after I did a monologue on what a third way, you know, I said, you know, you could stand there with just love like Martin Luther King.
And many people in the audience, because we listen to the audience and we're constantly, we're engaged with the audience, many people said, if you did that, you'd be destroyed.
They'd club you in the head.
They'd kill you.
And you know what?
That's probably true.
I mean, it could be very true.
But fear tells us something important.
It tells us that violence now is expected.
Chaos is assumed.
Escalation is the plan.
And plans have outcomes.
And the most likely outcome of the strategy that the left is using right now, again, who benefits?
Do they want justice or do they want to tear down the system?
Because the most likely outcome is not justice.
It is not reform.
It is not making some changes and then all of us coming back together.
It's more death, more armor, more force, more tragedy, followed by another round of fundraising and recruitment.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
If peace were the goal, this would not be the method.
So as I get into some stuff here today that is really remarkable, remarkably good in some ways and remarkable that it's just so evil.
We have to do two things.
We have to be really clear on what the objectives are.
And the government must not back down from absolutes.
Our Constitution is an absolute.
We are a nation of laws and not men.
Now, this is what Donald Trump tweeted today, and I think it's absolutely 100% right.
One, he said, turn over all incarcerated or active warrant criminal illegal aliens for immediate deportation.
Two, Minnesota must transfer all criminal illegal aliens arrested by state and local police.
Three, they must assist federal authorities in detaining criminal illegal aliens wanted for crimes.
Four, Democrats must work with the federal government in the rapid removal of all criminal illegal aliens.
It's that simple, he wrote, end the chaos.
He's being very clear.
He is not backing down from law and order.
But he the federal government must be very careful.
I think he is being very careful because I think he understands the arsonists have a box of matches.
There are tons of facts coming out right now on who's involved, and I'm going to share them with you here in just a second.
And it is extensive.
It's amazing what you're going to show you.
But I believe because of what is coming out now, that's why they must set the streets on fire.
This is an endgame scenario for many very powerful organizations and people.
So the second thing that we have to do is our responsibility.
We can't get any more worked up about this.
We have to start taking something that Stu and I talked about for a while.
I just came to this conclusion because I, you know, having problems raising teenagers and you just get to the point where you're like, I think I'm going to choke them to death.
And, you know, that's when somebody reasonable will say, well, you should sleep on that.
And the best advice was given to me.
Whatever the situation is, whatever they're saying, stop owning it.
It's not yours.
You can't solve that problem.
Stop trying to.
So what you need to say is, wow, it's going to be interesting to see how all that works out, isn't it?
That is, that's the way.
That's the only way we're going to survive this because we're going to get more and more angry if we don't.
We have to now start to say, wow, it's going to be interesting to see how all of this works out.
That doesn't mean you disengage.
You know, I didn't disengage with my children.
I didn't stop loving them.
I didn't stop holding the line.
I just let, I just let them have the responsibility of, it's your choice.
Because this is not your choice on how America is going to end.
It's not.
You're going to play a role, but it's not your end.
It's not up to you.
It's not up to me.
It's going to be up to 350 million people.
And more anger is not going to change anything for the better.
So we must not give them everything that they really want.
We can't do that.
The government must enforce the laws and we must hold the line.
So here's the first truth that needs to be spoken to anybody who thinks they're on the right side.
I don't care what side it is, but if you think you're on the right side, listen carefully to me.
If your strategy requires blood to work, if your strategy collapses without confrontation, if it collapses or fails because people refuse to hate, then justice was never your goal.
Never has been, never was, it's not now.
And that's why the most dangerous lie of our time is this, that choosing restraint means choosing surrender.
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It does not.
Sometimes it means choosing to break the spell and not feed it.
Because once the spell breaks, once people see clearly again, that's when you can reconcile.
Not with everybody.
I mean, a lot of people are going to have to go to jail.
They need to go to jail and should go to jail.
And I want to see them in jail.
Those who are insurrectionists will and must go to jail.
But when that's done, that leaves a lot of people who are standing there on the sidelines that were standing with them thought they were fighting for something they're not really fighting for.
All those people who put a black box on because BLM is the best thing ever.
And then they realize, oh my gosh, BLM is everything that I didn't think they were.
They're trying to destroy their Turtle Island people.
They want to destroy America, the Western world, and destroy the nuclear family.
Those are their words, not mine.
Once people started to find out, oh, wow, BLM is not that and it started falling apart.
What do you do with those people who were not part of it, but were on that bandwagon?
Those are the people that we have to worry about because in the end, we have to come back together.
Otherwise, we're never going to make it as a society.
We're going to be the Balkans.
We're going to Balkanize.
We're going to tear ourselves apart, and we will never be the United States of America again.
So those are the things I think we have to keep in mind as I go forward and tell you now what is being revealed.
And I have a few words for the NSA because this is all being revealed by people who do not have the resources of the NSA.
Okay, let me just say that.
Let me get into that in 60 seconds.
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It's his last week, unfortunately, on the program.
He is going off to start something on his own.
He finally says, Dad, I can leave the nest.
I can leave the nest.
Well, it's about time.
You've only lived under my roof for 30 years now.
But Stu is leaving us.
He'll be announcing some things of where he's going next here, maybe, I don't know, tomorrow or Friday.
I hope soon.
I'm really excited about what he's doing.
So hello, Stu.
Hey, Glenn, I figured I'd take advantage fully of the free room and board you've offered over these years, but I guess eventually I have to get out of the house.
Yeah, I know.
How are you doing?
Pretty good.
You know, it's been fascinating.
It's great.
You're a great storyteller.
Thank you so much for sharing all of that.
Thank you.
Let me vacation them over the next couple.
Is that possible?
Let me tell you about what we found in Red State today.
This is so great.
We are learning a lot more about the people who were in the anti-ISIGL chat groups that Cam Higbee revealed.
He infiltrated this a few days ago, wasn't it?
Earlier this week, they are now finding the organization of the group, the donors, the significance of the address in which Alex Predi was obstructing federal officers.
There is a ton of information.
The groups are highly sophisticated, according to Red State.
They're being set up geographically.
Listen to this.
Within the city of Minneapolis, they're generally being divided by city council district.
Isn't that interesting?
But it also covers St. Paul, Bloomington, and other suburbs.
They start a new chat every day, delete the prior day's chat because Signal is encrypted and it's really difficult.
Once it's deleted, then you just can't recover it.
Signal also has no screenshot functions, which is why I think Higby recorded it on another phone that he saw.
But there's all kinds of things.
You're starting to see emojis next to names and they indicate because there's shifts, around-the-clock shifts.
And they're indicating, you know, for us, there's one with a car and they're mobile patrol, one with a phone, and that's dispatch.
One with a plate and knife and fork.
I don't know why this is it, but it means a license plate checker.
Okay.
There's a medic.
There's an aftercare provider.
It is very well financed and very well organized.
Now, we had Data Republican on yesterday, and she on Sunday evening published a spreadsheet of 4,000-plus donors and their possible identities.
And she made it all downloadable.
She took a non-redacted spreadsheet and she sent it to the FBI and other federal authorities.
In one of the files revealed by Cam Higbee, it shows that people who are directing money to a website stand with Minnesota turns it turns out, it directs donors to a campaign run by tending the soil on CHUFT.
I got a lot to say about tending the soil, but the campaign is hosted by CHUFT.
First donation came in from a big Canadian-based community organizer who's part of the leadership and specializes in funding.
So we now know also there's one example, there's more, but one, a central figure in raising money for this is from out of the country.
So foreigners are playing a role in all of this.
Also, some of the names of the people that are involved, there is a non-trivial number, according to Red State, of judges and elected officials who are affiliated with the current insurrection.
Also, Alex Predi, the man who was killed on Saturday, he was a member of this group.
One of his neighbors confirmed that.
And so was Renee Good.
Then you also have the Minneapolis elected officials.
Listen to this.
Representative Brad Tebke, he coordinates the Scott County Ice Watch, Signal Chat.
Scott County is just outside of Minneapolis.
And he is running, organizing, and coordinating the Ice Watch program, including recruiting people for patrol dispatch training and even food receiving, packing, and delivery for the shifts.
Also, you have several others.
Representative, State Representative Alex Falconer is part of this.
And you also have somebody who sits on the Minnesota or the Minneapolis City Council and a formal Waltz staffer, Senate candidate, and Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan.
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That's why they want to set the streets on fire to make sure they don't go to jail, at least right away.
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I just want to point out that just what Higbee and Data Republican have done in just this last week that even Red State is now reporting on this.
I'm giving you an article from Red State kind of summarizing everything.
It's really remarkable what average people are doing.
I mean, they are breaking this up.
A few hours ago, Higbee said that he's not 100% certain that Flanagan is the lieutenant governor of Minnesota.
Is the name is the same?
He's not 100% sure.
He said, however, there's circumstantial evidence that that is her, but I think it's important to point out we don't know for sure.
That's why I say the government has to be very, very careful on everything.
Only come out with the facts when they're doing this.
She is involved in stirring up local activists.
She has said that people need to put their bodies in the way of, put their bodies on the line in protest, which is great.
But here's an interesting fact in the Red State article.
Listen to this.
It's clear that Waltz, Fry, and Flanagan want this insurrection to continue because it takes the focus off the massive fraud that has been occurring in that state, much of it with Walt's knowledge.
Believe that's absolutely a fact.
That's why this is happening in the way it is.
They have got to stop this because it's going to pull a thread all across the country.
Related to that, now listen to this.
It's interesting that the address where the shooting occurred, this is of good, was at 2614 Nicolette.
Now, that address, that's where the shooting occurred.
Also, that's the address of an 1,100 square foot building that is home to eight businesses.
Eight.
It's 1,100 square feet.
So, you know, I mean, just my radio studios that I'm building here and, you know, the offices here for just my radio business is 11,000 square feet.
My studios in Dallas are 80,000 square feet, and I have three businesses in that facility.
Okay.
1,100 square feet.
That's like a New York apartment.
And you have eight businesses in there.
Now, those eight businesses, listen to this, Smart Therapy Center, American, the New American Development Center, the Nicolette Senior Center, the United Wellness Center, African American Family Services, Millennium Health Services, Bloom Home Health, and Global Interpreting Innovations.
Those are the eight businesses in this 1,100 square foot building.
Oh, and by the way.
By the way, I don't know if you saw the theme there.
By the way, there are 184 national provider identifier numbers listed at doing business at that address.
184 national provider identifier numbers, so people who are providers and get money listed at doing business at that 1,100 square foot place.
And that is also where the shooting happened.
That is weird.
That is really, really weird.
And it's weird that, you know, 184 providers and eight businesses in 1,100 square feet never send up a single red flag, not one whatsoever.
By the way, I think it was Cam Higbee that found this because he is looking for not only the names of people, but he's also looking for the places that are being used as hubs for this insurrection.
Is this one of those hubs?
I don't know.
Higby has said more information is coming soon.
This is quite remarkable.
And it's quite remarkable that you have all of these people involved in this insurrection.
And that is who I want the government to be very, very careful on.
And I want to see those people arrested.
Because the problem is not the average protester.
Now, I don't know how many average protesters are out there in comparison to, you know, how many people are, you know, the diehards, the Turtle Island people.
I don't know.
You know, Renee Good, you know, they've tried to make her look like just an innocent person, but I don't think she was.
You know, she seems to be more of a Turtle Island kind of person.
Once you cross that line, once you go from, hey, I just want justice to I want the destruction of the United States of America, you cross a line.
Mentally, you cross a line.
You're not looking for justice and reconciliation like Martin Luther King.
Instead, you're looking for an insurrection and either a civil war or an overthrow of this government.
And that makes you different.
Same thing with the, what was his name, Predty that was shot.
And I'm going to get into this later because I think this is really important.
We have to be able to hold two things in our heads at the same time.
The guy should not have been shot.
That was, I don't think it was careless.
I think that was cops under pressure in a very bad situation.
You know, an 8,000% increase on threats on their lives.
You know, you tend to get a little nervous.
Somebody shouted gun, gun, gun.
The officer pulled out his gun, shot him.
Now, he shot him several times.
But again, I think that's adrenaline.
But, you know, you can look at that and go, that didn't happen the way I think it should have.
And I'll withhold judgment on that until everything comes out and everybody's calm and we're just looking at facts and hearing everything.
But the same thing here can be held on the other guy.
You know, when you first look at it, you're like, okay, this, the guy's not aggressive.
And now we're finding out that he had either a bruised or a broken rib from a confrontation that he had with police just a couple of days ago.
Well, that changes things.
That changes, I mean, in the court of law, that changes things.
Now you're looking and say, wait a minute, he was engaging with the police.
This was not an isolated incident.
He did bring a gun.
And he most likely knew he would somehow or another get into an incident because he just had gotten into an incident with a police officer and had either bruised or broken rib from that.
So we now know he's not just some innocent bystander either.
So I don't know how many good guys are actually out on the street and how many are really actually insurrectionist.
I know this thing is, you know, is organized by nothing but insurrectionists.
And the same thing is happening.
Linda Sarsour and the Singham Network are now saying they're going to bring the nation to its knees tomorrow.
Or no, sorry, Friday.
I'll bring it to its knees on Friday.
Yep.
Because all these people are going to leave work.
They're not going to go to school.
They're not going to go shopping.
They're not going to go to work.
Oh, boo-hoo, Crymia River.
The rest of us are.
Okay.
The rest of us are.
But this is something now.
I mean, you now have the largest nurses union in the country saying you got to do this.
Nurses.
This is, to me, the nurses and the doctor thing is the most frightening.
Because if you, if you get these nurses and doctors, remember, I played a nurse for you yesterday from Virginia who said, take a syringe and fill it with, I don't remember what the drug was, but it was a paralytic and jam it into the neck of an ICE agent because maybe they'll wake up.
Wait, you're now talking about jamming a syringe into the neck of an ICE agent to make them paralyzed at least for a little while?
Are you out of your mind?
That's a nurse that said that.
When you get nurses and you get doctors on board in this kind of thinking, where you know what?
If they don't take the jab, they're not worth treating.
Let them die.
Then all bets are off.
You're in a completely different culture.
But this general strike, so you know, this is happening, a national shutdown, large-scale marches, and a day of no work, no school, no shopping.
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Oh, the kids everywhere are very disappointed.
It's a Marxist revolutionary people's forum.
The left-wing breakthrough news media outlet, the Party for Socialism and Liberation, the far-left Code Pink Anti-War Group, the ACT Now Stop War and End Racism Answer Coalition.
They're all promoting this.
So, I mean, I mean, you're going to join them.
Wake up, America.
Wake up.
Now, I personally don't think that this is going to be a big deal.
It might be on some college campuses and in some very, you know, blue cities, but the rest of the country is not going to go that way.
Just not going to go that way.
Listen, here's the point of this hour.
There are good things happening.
And it's people like you.
It's normal people who have a skill.
Data Republican is just a mole, man.
She just knows how to find stuff.
Kem Higby seems to be the same kind of person.
Just goes in and knows how to find stuff and is exposing all of it.
And you have people, you have people, Ryan Morrow doing the same thing with us yesterday.
We exposed a big thing that he found as well in his investigation.
So a lot of things are happening.
Here is the other thing that I want to point out.
The federal government, Donald Trump, just issued a statement today asking for certain things and saying there's no quarter on this.
You are going to do these things, and that is enforce the federal law.
You have to turn these criminal aliens over.
And, you know, Minnesota is saying they're not going to.
I think they're going to fight on this one, but Donald Trump, I believe, will be prepared politically.
He'll also be prepared with the public and the press.
And of course, I wouldn't count him out with Homan on getting the job done right.
But he is investigating, FBI is investigating, et cetera, et cetera.
But so far, everything that has been found has been found by people like Cam Higby.
Can I ask you what the hell we're paying the NSA for?
I mean, they have, I don't remember what the spooky computer is called, you know, Colossus, that has every keystroke you've ever made.
We have an insurrection going on, and the NSA is not able to track this stuff down and connect all the dots.
What the hell did we pay for?
Because I know they can track down anything that if you're doing something, they're going to track that down.
What?
This is the thing that we need to start asking the government.
What the hell did we pay for?
Why did we have to give all of this ground on the Patriot Act?
You're recording every keystroke every American makes.
We know it.
It's true.
So why the hell are we having Cam Higbee being the one that is saying, by the way, did you see this?
The NSA, the government, should be standing up every day going, here it is.
And here's the definitive connection to everything that they're doing.
Here's how they're all related.
And here come the charges.
I would expect to see that pretty soon.
And if not, again, Pam Bondi, I would ask, why isn't that happening?
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You know the um the insider show in the breaks of this one uh, at Glenbeck.com.
Multiple People Involved00:04:02
Jason, can you quickly give me, there's a ton of people that are NSA level, seemingly, NSA level style exposure going on.
There's Data Republican.
There's Cam Higbee.
Who else?
There's a couple of other usernames that I don't think that I can read the username on radio because they're kind of out there.
But there are multiple different people involved in this investigation.
The last one that I was looking at last night, right before I went to bed, this one guy had pulled out entire screenshots and he was looking through the code and it showed that they're planning for like the next massive panic event or event that they all need to rally for and they were rehearsing certain things.
So this shows that they're planning for something coming in the future.
Maybe that's been put on hold now since they've been outed.
But I mean, it's just amazing what these guys are doing.
They're in panic.
They're absolute panic.
Absolute panic.
Yeah.
All right.
All right, Jason.
Thank you so much.
They are in absolute panic.
And I think that's, I mean, you know, some of them in this, the signal chats were starting to say, I got to get out of the state.
I got to get out of the country.
We're shutting our operations down here.
We'll regroup.
I mean, they know they are in real trouble.
Again, how come this is left up to citizens to do this when we have the NSA?
Where is the NSA on this?
This is an insurrection.
Why aren't we using the NSA?
What are we paying for?
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There's a lot going on today we want to talk about.
Minnesota is still on the top of the list because this is an ongoing story and I think it is getting worse and worse because there are so many politicians that are involved and I believe there is that they know they're trapped and they have to have cover or they're in deep, deep trouble.
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Hello.
Hello.
Wilfred, I'm kind of busy.
We're in the middle of a name is Wilfred.
I'm calling from Sun City, Florida.
Yes.
Yes.
I've been listening to your program for quite a time, and I've been inspired.
You've been inspired.
Inspire action, yes.
You were talking about the riots in that Minneapolis.
Yes, yes, Minnesota.
Yes, go ahead.
And I've decided to participate as well here in Sun City, Florida.
Really?
Yes.
There was a meta-musile shortage.
And I made sure to go down there with my signs and my obviously high-powered weapons that you always bring to Facebook protests.
And also, I have a rape whistle.
yeah you're you're afraid of yes i've always i want to make sure that there's there's nothing going on in areas i don't want it going on if you know what i mean I have a feeling nothing's been going on down there for quite a while.
Go ahead.
You'd be surprised.
I don't want to talk about it anymore, Wilfred.
But I have the rape whistle here.
Let me blow it quickly for you.
All right.
Wilfred, I think you need to put a little more air into that.
I don't know if you're going to get sound out of it.
Okay.
All right.
Wilfred from Sun City, Florida.
I heard you were doing a real estate commercial.
Yeah, thank you very much for your phone call.
Yeah.
I do appreciate it.
You've moved now.
You don't live in Texas anymore.
Yeah.
I live in Florida.
I'm going to live to Florida.
Yes.
All right.
Do you stop eating stew or it's leaving in some way?
No, Stew is leaving the program on Friday.
Yes.
You do realize what's going on here.
You're turning into me.
You've moved to Florida.
Hang the phone up.
Thank you very much for your phone call.
I appreciate it.
Okay.
Yesterday, I asked you a question.
What if there was a third way?
Now, if you just tuned in, I want you to know last hour I was talking about how important it is for the president to follow through on what he just tweeted today.
He listed four things Minnesota has to do.
And that is enforce the law.
Turn the criminals over to the feds.
Work with the federal government to get the criminals.
And I don't think they're going to do it, but he is setting them up to make that choice.
And I think the reason why they're not making this choice, they're not going to make that choice to go along is I really think they are in real trouble with all of the things that are going on with all the things that are going on with fraud.
And now people like Cam Higby and Data Republican are exposing all of the hidden networks.
This is all coming undone.
And they are freaked to the core.
The soldiers, the foot soldiers, the ones who believe in the Turtle Island nonsense, those people are freaked to the core.
And I think the politicians are freaked to the core.
And he must have something else going on.
Otherwise, we're going to start paying attention to all of the fraud that is happening.
And that will only hasten his journey to jail.
But yesterday, I asked you, can we stay as a people?
Is there a third way?
Because there is maybe 30% of the population that is still gettable.
And I don't mean winnable.
I mean salvageable.
We have to, look, when this is all over, and it will end one way or another, it's going to end.
And we know how it ends in Marxist terms.
If Marxists win, what do they do?
In the end, anybody who wasn't with them, they line them up and they shoot them.
That's what happens.
Same thing with Islamists.
They line you up and shoot you.
Same thing with anarchists.
They shoot you.
So we know how that side's going to end.
How does our side end?
If indeed our side, the Constitution, is supreme.
You can't shoot people that disagreed with you.
You can put people who broke the law and were tried and justice stood and it wasn't, you know, it wasn't rigged or anything else.
It was just real justice.
Those people, they go to jail.
But the people who are on the sidelines, you've got to get them back into the fold.
They have to start, we have to come back together.
Otherwise, this is just going to happen over and over again.
And you will, one way or another, you'll be in civil war.
You'll be at each other's throats forever.
And that's not the United States of America.
And it's not a world that I want to live in.
It's not the country I want to pass to my kids.
I want to pass my kids a better country, a more stable world.
So the only way to do that is what Martin Luther King called reconciliation.
So yesterday I asked, what if?
What if there was a third way, a group of people that were dedicated to truth and justice who would use their bodies in an overtly peaceful way, not to shout slogans, hate, or even judge or spit back on people who are spitting on them.
Just stand locked in arms to stand as a border between ICE agents and these violent insurrectionists.
And stand and protect the police.
But not doing it with hatred.
People who are willing to do what Martin Luther King did.
Be willing to take a club to the head.
Be willing to take a fire hose opened up on you.
Dogs unleashed.
That is extraordinary.
But it's going to take something extraordinary that the average person who is just casually watching, think of your children.
Think of, if you have kids in college, I talked to my kids.
I talked to them yesterday and Cheyenne was talking about how she had heard this and this and this.
And I'm like, no, honey, be careful.
That's not true.
This is true.
This, you have right.
This is not correct.
Most people don't have time to do what I do for a living.
And quite honestly, most people don't take the time to do what you're doing right now and actually go try to find somebody that will tell you the truth as they understand it, back it up with the facts.
And so most people are just being duped.
They're just being duped.
They don't know what they believe.
They don't know what the real facts are.
So something has to happen that is so extraordinary that the average person on both sides is almost dumbfounded.
You know, you look at something, you're like, wait, these people are willing to stand for what they believe in and never punch back?
It's got to be something so far out of human nature that it's either group insanity or a God thing.
MLK called this nonviolent resistance, and he said it was the only road to reconciliation.
But just like in the 1960s, most people are not interested in that.
They want justice.
They want people behind bars.
They want people paying for what they've done.
I get it.
I feel that way.
I want them.
And there must be people to go to jail.
But the problem is not the average person on the other side.
It's those who are behind the protesters.
You know, I know there are many in the streets that are, as I've been calling them, Turtle Island people that believe that, you know, North America is Turtle Island.
It was stolen.
And the American empire needs to be destroyed.
America is the worst thing that has ever happened and it must be wiped off the face of the earth.
Okay.
I don't think that's your average Democrat, do you?
Okay.
But they're almost under this spell because we, and I'm going to be honest with you, both sides are a little bit.
Okay.
And you're no longer able to think straight.
We become so tribal in this country that if you're not 100% with me, you're my enemy.
Well, that's not true.
I've got to be able to hold two things at once that can be true.
Two things can be true at once.
So the first thing we have to do is separate in your mind the opposition, who we're talking about in Minneapolis, the true insurgents, the true Marxists, the Turtle Island believers, they want to destroy and take down America, and the politicians who think they can control those people for their own power and are corrupt.
And then there's the people that don't believe in any of that, but have slowly been cooked in the stew of injustice.
You know, most cops are bad.
Trump, as well as you and I, we're Nazis.
They don't want to overthrow the U.S.
They just think we're Nazis and so they got to stop the Nazis.
You know, they believe they're standing against fascism, but I can guarantee you they can't even really define fascism.
But that's where they are.
So how do you convince those people that we're not fascists?
Well, send in more troops.
Bring in the troops and arrest them in the streets.
Shout by, you know, that's not going to by doing what the real believers, Turtle Island people are telling them that we will do, which they will then just turn around and use as proof of concept to their followers and just get them in deeper.
That's not, that's not, that's not a good plan.
Not a good plan.
And it's not enough just to not do that.
We have to do something so radical that it breaks the narrative, something that makes everyone in the world stop and say, what the heck is this?
What is happening?
These people are getting beaten in the head and they're not fighting back.
They're instead of fighting back, they're forgiving those who beat them.
That's Gandhi.
That's MLK.
That's Jesus.
That's the apostles.
That is why Christianity grew and changed the world and Islam had to conquer the world with swords and beheadings and bombs and blood.
Okay.
One direction asks you to sacrifice yourself or your children, but the elite never do it.
The other side says, everybody love one another.
I read the comments from Glennbeck.com slash torch, the insiders, yesterday when I mentioned this yesterday.
40% agreed with me, but wondered with me, do we have enough people in 350 million people?
Do we have enough people that would do that?
That really have the discipline to do it like Martin Luther King would have done it.
Do we have the pastors that would do it?
I can guarantee you, every pastor, if you're a pastor and you're listening to me now, why are you dismissing this?
Why are you dismissing this possible calling to this?
Guarantee, because you're not sure what will happen to your congregation.
You don't know what will happen to your tithing.
You don't know what will happen to your church.
You have bills to make.
You have all this stuff.
What's the real reason?
Okay, now 60% of the audience yesterday told me, and I completely understand this, it's too late.
They're beyond saving.
If you stood there with love, you'd be beaten and possibly killed.
And I can understand why people feel that way.
I really do.
And the last comment might actually be true.
But the comments, it's too late and they're beyond saving, feels true because I and you have watched lies harden into identity.
You know, we've seen our own families fracture.
We've lost somebody that we love, not to death, but to politics.
And so hope feels really naive and even dangerous.
I want you to know, I know that pain personally.
There's at least one empty chair at my table, and not because of distance, not because of time, but because of politics.
And I have to tell you, I don't care what the reason is.
I don't want to win.
I don't need an apology.
I don't need to be told I was right.
I don't need any of that.
I just want those individuals back at my table.
That's all I want.
That's reconciliation.
The other thought that was expressed by really reasonable people in this audience was, you will never change the left.
Now, let me say something really shocking here.
I 100% agree with that.
You will not change the left.
That's why I'm not talking about the left.
The left, those who really, the Turtle Island, they need to go to jail.
But that's why we have to talk honestly about reconciliation because I'm not talking, I don't think people really understand what that is.
Reconciliation does not mean reconciling with everyone.
It never has.
I don't remember the videotape and the, you know, and the sessions where Martin Luther King reconciled with the Klan, you know, sitting down with people in hoods going, you know what?
We just got to find some common ground here.
I mean, he didn't negotiate with people who had already chosen hate as their God.
Okay.
There was no reconciliation there.
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What he did, what he risked his life to do, was for something far more precise.
He reached the people who had been pulled into the movement on the other side, even if they didn't fully agree with the worst part.
So people who didn't wear the robes, but they tolerated them.
They're like, I don't like those people.
I don't like what they stand for, but, you know, it's a good cause and I'm square behind it and can't pick who you're with.
Okay.
Those people, they were not evil.
They were not evil.
That's the, you know, as I said yesterday, they were like many of our grandparents or great-grandparents that, you know, were living in a different time.
They were not evil.
They were under a spell.
And spells don't break because somebody shouts facts at you.
They don't break because you are arguing with them.
They break when reality intrudes, when people see dogs turn loose, when they see fire hoses aimed at children, when they saw brutality laid bare.
That wasn't about humiliating the other side.
That was about revealing the truth so clearly that decent people could no longer look away.
And that's the part we're missing today.
It's not universal.
It's not, it is conditional.
And reconciliation happens after the spell breaks.
When somebody goes, wait, how the heck did I end up here?
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I thought of something good.
I think it's in the weird spot.
Sabotage tactic, or at least scare tactic.
All the medical providers, grab some syringes with needles on the end.
Have them full of saline or succinyl cooling, you know, whatever, whatever.
That will probably be a deterrent.
Okay, so there she's taking away.
Paralytic, putting a paralytic in a stolen syringe and then jamming it in the neck of an ice agent.
And I said yesterday, she needs to be fired.
Well, here's the good news.
She has been fired.
Hopefully she never is able to work in the medical field again.
But that's a good sign.
That's a good sign.
That means that common decency is still alive.
Somewhere, it's still alive.
Otherwise, I'll tell you, in Germany, when Bonhoeffer was fighting this kind of stuff, she wouldn't have been fired.
Nobody would have said anything about that.
They would have gone along with it.
This is good news.
It means there still are people that are salvageable.
And we've got to find those people and try to reconcile when all of this is over.
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Stu's last day is on Friday, and it couldn't come faster for most of us and the audience.
But it's been 27 years that we have been together, and it has truly been great.
And he's one of my favorite people in the whole world.
He's really, he is one of the smartest people, one of the one of the calmest people.
He has been really good, especially when I was younger, because I would be very, very hasty to jump and react.
And he was always the guy going, probably shouldn't say that, probably shouldn't do that.
Let's wait until we get more facts on that.
And it saved me and my career more than I can count.
And we really, truly will miss him.
Stu started as an intern for me years ago.
We met at A1 Toyota.
He was blowing up balloons and I was alone trying to say, hey, come on down and look at this car as I was doing mornings years and years ago.
And people really reacted to that advice, didn't they?
I remember that day, approximately zero people came.
So it was me and you.
Nobody came.
It was a very sad.
It was a very sad.
Humble beginnings does not really do that justice.
But we sat because nobody came.
We sat and we talked for a while.
And I realized this 18-year-old kid was really astute and had studied radio and knew what was good and what was bad and why.
And I said, you should leave the promotions department.
You should intern for me.
And he said in his head, oh, wow, the guy who can't bring a single soul down to A1 Toyota is offering me an internship.
How can I say no?
Unpaid.
An unpaid internship for a guy who can sell approximately zero automobiles.
That's, yeah, that was a tempting offer, Glenn.
Thank you for it.
Yeah.
But still, again, because he's so pathetic, he took it.
Looked good to me at that time, amazingly.
That's where I was in life.
I was like, yeah, that sounds great, actually.
I think I'll do that.
I think I'll do that.
And I remember the first day he was with me, I said, come on into the studio.
I want to teach you something because I was a really good editor at the time.
And I said, here, I want to teach you how to edit.
And he looked at me.
I did the whole thing on tape.
And he looked at me and he said, and why would I do that?
And I'm like, so you can edit the tape.
And he's like, yeah, let me show you something.
He pulled out his laptop and he did it in a fraction of the time.
And I'm like, lesson ended.
Thank you.
I got it.
And I think you've learned an important lesson.
You are now the editor of everything on this program.
Yeah, that's a lesson I've been working with from Glenn over the years, which is the second you show any ability to do a thing, it's part of your new job.
It doesn't necessarily mean anything changes.
Like you don't drop old parts of your old job.
You just add a new thing to your new job, which doesn't necessarily.
You're better at me.
If you're better than me on things, you should be doing it, not me.
And I'm not, I'm not, you know, I'm humble enough to say there's a lot of things that I shouldn't be doing in this job.
And then Stu went on to write for the show.
He was instrumental in developing this show at the very beginning, trying to, you know, put it together, make sense of my ramblings and going, you know, maybe we should cut this and do this.
And when we went to Fox, he was the head writer of the Fox show.
He and Dan Andros, who was my head writer for a long time at Fox, because Stu just decided Dan's better at this than I am.
So maybe he should take that on.
I learned from you.
You told me.
The apprentice, he learns very well.
But which gave me more time to humiliate him on the air.
If you remember the Fox show, for no reason whatsoever, I would have him dress as a woman as somebody who was like in the federal government or something that was talking to me about what Anita Dunn is doing or whatever.
There was really no reason other than to humiliate Stu, which we have, that's our relationship.
He makes fun of me.
I make fun of him.
And we all go home happy.
Yeah, I think he just described as I try to make the show better and you make me dress up like a woman.
So that's been our relationship for 28 years, which is, you know, again, who could want it to end?
I have also waterboarded you with chocolate milk.
Yes.
Which I don't think has ever been done before.
No, we were trying to understand what waterboarding would be like, and we decided to do it with chocolate milk, which was too chocolatey, if I remember correctly.
It was.
I remember that's what you were saying at the end.
You were like, you know, here's the one thing.
Stu is also for the air at his own choice, not my.
In fact, I was saying, you know, maybe you shouldn't do that.
He decided that he was going to drink Roundup because he was convinced that it was safe to drink Roundup.
Now, Stu is, a lot of people don't know this.
Stu has lost both of his legs and he's blind in one eye.
But, you know, so we waterboarded him with chocolate milk.
He drank Roundup, his idea, not mine.
And yet he would never go on any foreign trip with me, which makes me, I don't know if you saw the document or the show by Boz Luhrman on Elvis, but it kind of makes me think that you're kind of like Colonel Parker.
There's a reason you can't leave the country.
Oh, really?
That's your thought.
Yeah, maybe you're wanted in other countries and so you can never travel.
I'm not sure.
Can't confirm or deny that one.
But I do remember when you did the Israel trip, you know, while missiles were raining down for whatever reason it was at that particular moment, I did stay home.
And you had a, you know, I stand with Glenn Beck t-shirt made up.
And I made a I stand for Israel with Stu in America, which I thought was a perfect people stood with me, not there.
They just stood here and admired what was happening there.
So yes, that did happen.
And you did waterboard me.
And you've, if I'm not mistaken, I also sent you to the steps of the Philadelphia Art Museum where the Rocky statue used to be.
And you lost a bet to me or something.
I don't remember what it was, but I may think Philadelphia.
He had to go Philadelphia and stand during the whole show at the Rocky statue going, Rocky was a loser, too.
Well, which the context of that was, as a Philadelphia Eagles fan, a big fan, it was their Super Bowl that they went to, the one that they lost, unfortunately, to the New England Patriots.
First one I ever went to.
And I needed to basically say, hey, I need to take days off that wouldn't normally be, you know, it's January and into February, like kind of an early time to be taking vacations in a new year.
And I had to basically beg you to allow me to go to the game.
And you eventually agreed with this little minor thing that I had to do afterward that, you know, you wouldn't tell me for a while and eventually turned into me risking my life in downtown Philadelphia.
After the Eagles lost a game, I had to go up and taunt the people of a city that burns down when they win.
So it was not enjoyable.
No, it was not the best ideas for your safety.
But then again, we're talking to a guy who volunteered to drink Roundup.
So, you know.
It's accurate.
I am glad you've recounted a lot of these things because now I don't need an opening statement for the litigation, which is just play this.
I just play it straight through.
And the judge, I think, will make the right decision.
But no, it's been, we've had, you know, it's amazing.
I posted something on Twitter and X just saying, hey, like, we're going to be on for a few more days.
If there's anything you ever wanted to know the backstory of, if you ever wanted to know, you know, anything that you might remember from the past that you wanted to hear about or anything that particularly embarrasses Glenn in some major way, make sure to let me know.
And, you know, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of comments of people, just things that I don't, Glenn, I don't even think we could tell the stories because I don't, half of them I don't even remember.
It's amazing to see how many things that have happened, how many big things that have happened, all the people we've talked to, all the, you know, the controversies that you've undoubtedly caused, all those things.
It's been a long road.
It's going to be hard to, it's going to be hard to go through a week, you know, thinking, you know, the career won't just fall apart because of something that you say or that we might just have an angry mob outside the door at any time.
I'm not sure how I'll adjust to it, but it's been a really fun journey.
I remember, I mean, things have changed so much.
I remember it was 2002 and September 2002.
And Stu and I and my wife, for some reason, I was flying into someplace or flying from someplace.
And we met, I don't even remember, Hartford or something, or Boston.
We had a drive to Kenny Bunkport because George Bush was going to give us an interview about September 11th, 2001.
And Stu had a brand new device that he had never used before.
I think was it still tape at that time?
It was like a digital recorder of some sort that we had purchased for, this is, gosh, it feels to me that it was a little bit later than that, but it was George.
It was, yeah, the Kennedy Bunkport house that they had.
That was the one year.
Yeah, it was one year anniversary.
Yeah.
Yeah, one year anniversary of 9-11.
And so we got the OK very close, like the day before the interview that they were going to go through with it.
So we had to go up there.
Yeah, I was someplace else.
I had to meet Stu someplace.
And then we got a rental car.
And it was the first time either of us had seen GPS.
And we're driving at 2 o'clock in the morning up to Kenny Bunkport, and it's in the fog and all these roundabouts and everything else.
And we only got there because of GPS.
But the whole time that Stu was in the car, neither of us slept.
And we arrive just in time for the interview.
We go in, and the whole time Stu is in the car, he's like, I'm not sure this is going to work.
I don't know.
I mean, there's no way to check if this is recording.
You know, I hope it works.
And he set the whole thing up.
I've never seen Stu as white and as pale as this.
We go in, George Bush walks in.
We sit down for the interview.
We talk to him for about half, you know, half an hour.
And Stu is just behind him, in my eyeshot, just looking at me with sweat pouring down his face.
Like, I don't know.
He kept looking at me like, I don't know if any of this is being recorded.
And George Bush left.
Right?
Yeah.
And I had two different recording devices.
Like we had a regular and a backup, neither of which I had ever used.
I had to take them out of the box that night and try to figure out how to use them because of the short notice that we were going on.
And, you know, I was talking to my son the other day.
He's like, who's the most famous person that you guys have talked to over the years?
And, you know, it's presidents of the United States, right?
Like the various presidents of the United States.
Like it's that's the easy answer because, you know, that's what we've done.
And I remember going there and trying to do this and setting all that stuff up.
And we had some time in the hotel where we were supposed to sleep.
And I just stayed up all night just taking it, testing it over and over and over and over.
I remember it all laid out on my bed in the hotel or the, you know, bed and breakfast or whatever it was.
It was in Kennedy Bunkport, Maine.
And it was all laid out.
The wires, I had all the wires set up so I could put it in the bag and just remove it from the bag exactly as is.
I didn't have to do any other connections.
I had proven that it had worked over and over again.
I was so nervous that we were going to do an interview with the president, a former president of the United States.
And it all gone.
And it'd all be gone.
And so we finished the interview.
And I'm like, thank you, Mr. President.
It's been wonderful to hear the story.
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Thank you.
And we'll air this soon.
He's like, when will it be on the air?
And I said, it's probably tomorrow.
It'll be on the air.
And I kind of meant probably.
And he left the room and I looked at Stu and I went, dear God, tell me we have that recorded.
And he's just, he has his headphones on and he's listening.
He's like, oh, yes, it was recorded.
It was the most fly-by-night thing I think we ever did.
And I'm so happy to say we don't have to worry about any of those problems anymore.
Because now we just don't care if it's recorded or not.
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
Now it's been plenty of years.
Now, who cares?
But I will say one thing.
I don't know if you remember as a detail to this, Glenn.
You know, as I mentioned, there was two, I had two different systems recording it at the same time.
One of them did fail.
We actually didn't get it on one of the two.
And so, and I think that was the first one I listened to.
First one you checked.
I checked, and it was, there was just nothing.
It was just, it had worked 50 times in a row at the hotel, and then it didn't work when we recorded the actual interview.
Luckily, the second one picked it up.
So I didn't get fired.
And my exit was, you know, 20-something years ago instead of on Friday, which might have been better for you if you think about it.
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He's running for Texas Attorney General.
I want to talk to him about the spending bill that doesn't include funding for the Department of Homeland Security.
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The House Republicans have stated clearly they will not pass a spending bill that does not include funding for the Department of Homeland Security, even if that means a government shutdown.
We're going to talk to Chip Roy about that.
Also, you know, what is happening in Minnesota?
What does the president do if, you know, the governor and Mayor Fry don't start complying with the federal government?
What are we headed towards here?
What are the consequences?
And how do we get this one right to save the Republic?
We'll talk to Chip Roy here in just a second.
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Yeah, Glenn, that would be a mistake.
And yesterday, the House Freedom Caucus, we put out a letter making very clear that if they want to split off Homeland Security, that's not our view.
We don't think that's the right way to do it.
We passed a bill that funds the Department of War that it funds to better, for better or worse, by the way.
I mean, I didn't support a lot, several of the bills in this package, right?
The labor age, healthcare, education, a lot of crap in there.
I don't like the provisions in transportation.
There's earmarks that I don't like.
But we came together, we passed a product and an agreement.
I voted for the Homeland Bill, despite some reservations, because we need to fund Border Patrol and we need to fund ICE, and we support, and frankly, we trust the president to get it done.
So we should stand by the president, stand behind ICE, stand behind Border Patrol, but we should not isolate Homeland Security and allow it to be a political punching bag by the left.
How is that going to play with the American people?
Have you seen any polling on this?
I mean, is this popular with the American people?
What the Democrats are doing?
Oh, right.
So, yeah, I mean, I don't believe so.
Look, I haven't seen any polling in the last two days other than the kind of flyby night polling.
You got to get legitimate polling.
I think the American people want us to continue to do the job.
Now, look, they wanted us to do it the right way.
I mean, Glenn, you and I, and most of your listeners are civil libertarians, right?
We don't want an authoritarian government just running around arresting random people, but that's not what's happening here.
ICE and Border Patrol are trying to zero in and focus on removing bad actors.
By the way, Glenn, 1.5 million people in the United States are under orders of removal from a judge.
Like, people act like this is just made-up stuff.
We have massive numbers of people under orders of removal.
We have dangerous individuals affiliated with gangs.
We have robbers, rapists, sodomists, people that they've been pulling off the streets.
And the reason there's difficulty, the reason that ICE and Border Patrol are having more issues is because the people like Governor Walls and the mayor of Minneapolis, who are continuing even today, to tweet out that they have no intent of having their local law enforcement work to remove illegal aliens.
Like literally, the Minneapolis mayor said that today, which is very clearly unhelpful and not working with the feds to do the job, which is making it harder on them.
And we have a duty to enforce the law.
I think the American people are with us on that.
We should stay the course.
And the president has made it very, very clear that this is not about going scooping other people up.
This is about give us the people you already have in jail.
Give us the people who are criminals and you have warrants on give us those people, right?
No, that's exactly right.
And those arrested, those arrested, you've got to go through the entirety and say, look, here, it's a cultural thing.
If the governor of Minnesota and the mayor of Minneapolis simply said, we will cooperate with federal law enforcement, we will share those people that have been that are in jail, that have been convicted, that have been arrested, and we will share that information to identify the people that must be removed under our laws, including those under court order to be removed.
Again, Glenn, we don't have a nation.
We don't have sovereignty if this isn't something we can easily agree to.
And if we can't agree to that, then I got to start thinking about whether it is even possible to be in unity with people who don't believe we should be a sovereign nation.
What does that mean, Tip?
It means that I don't know how you coexist with a governor of another state who refuses to enforce the law and says that he has the right to put dangerous people on the streets of Minneapolis or Minnesota who can get in their car on I-35 from Minneapolis and be to Dallas or Austin, Texas within the day.
Somebody tell me how that works.
It doesn't.
You either enforce the laws under our Constitution where the Constitution gives direct authority, not all this mindless nonsense that these guys typically do, right?
Where they use the federal government, they use the Constitution to say the federal government can do whatever it wants, whatever program, whatever spending, which, by the way, is not true.
But the Constitution directly contemplates that the federal government will be setting the laws with respect to immigration and so forth.
Doesn't mean states can't enforce their own laws to secure their border, by the way.
But what it does mean is that the federal government has the authority and the duty to be able to uphold our immigration laws and to remove people.
And if the states aren't going to work with us on that, then what is left is for people of states like Texas to take the steps necessary to defend our people.
Which means what?
Which means we have to start making decisions in Texas about saying, look, maybe we have to start thinking about who's coming into Texas from Minnesota.
Like, we have to start deciding how are we going to protect our people in the state of Texas if the other states, if the other leaders in this country are going to thwart the federal government's ability and the federal government's duty to keep us safe and secure.
Remember, it was the Democrats, these same Democrats that said, oh, you guys just have to deal with wide open borders, which was lawlessness.
And the state of Texas was being told, well, you've just got to deal with literally hundreds of thousands of people flooding into your state.
Now they want to have the other argument, which is now we're going to thwart enforcement so that you, the people of Texas, have to be put in danger because we refuse to secure the state of Minnesota or any other state that has a similar track record.
So if they're going to upend the rule of law, then we, the people of Texas, and as leaders in Texas, are going to have to make decisions about what are we going to do to protect our own people.
So that would raise those questions.
Where are you coming from?
Why are you coming into the state of Texas and where are you from?
And whether or not they should be coming into the state of Texas to you the way this is unfolding, I mean, I really think because of the huge fraud problem in Minnesota, I think that's why these politicians are acting the way they are.
They're looking to make that kind of go away.
Right.
Yep.
But with everything that we're seeing, and people like Data Republican Cam Higbee are revealing, is this not a clear case for insurrection?
Look, I have said, and the Freedom Caucus yesterday said in the letter we put out that we believe that the president would be well within his rights to invoke the Insurrection Act, which dates back over 200 years, for just this purpose to make sure that we can stop this interference.
By the way, we can use any number of federal laws from obstruction of justice to specific laws on the books that can be enforced against people interfering with carrying out law enforcement.
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But again, I just want to remind you, Glenn, I mean, because, and I don't want to speak for you, but I suspect we're simpatico here that we do not like the raw power of the federal government being used to come into.
I'm not looking to go empower massive federal law enforcement individuals.
That's not how I'm wired, and I don't think that's good.
In this case, the sovereignty of the nation and our ability to, what I said before, I know it's somewhat controversial, our ability to exist as a nation, okay, and to unite requires us to stop the madness and to stop the lack of enforcement of the law.
And to your point about the fraud, that's a part of it too, right?
That they are stealing money from us in the form of fraud, both taxpayer-funded money as well as borrowed money, to then fund people who are here, whether they're here legally or illegally, it's both, in order to continue to prop them up and then prevent us from enforcing the law to not have dangerous individuals or people under order to be removed who are using up resources, both legitimate and illegitimate.
And that destroys the country.
Like, Glenn, we won't have a country left.
So we either win this battle right now, we either rally around the president and say, enforce the law, enforce the sovereignty of the country, and do it right.
Like Tom Homan going on the ground was a wise move by the president.
We need seasoned leadership by somebody who's been there before, who knows how to do it, and can do it the right way.
Okay.
I don't think we should just go around swilly-nilly, but we need to be able to work with law enforcement and we need to pressure the locals to work with us in order to ensure bad actors are removed.
So, Chip, I don't mean to keep hounding you on this.
I just don't feel like I understand the answer.
I know we have to consider other things, and it'll put us in a position to where we have to think about other things.
But what are those other things?
Because we're entering a time to where the government, which I think is, I think Donald Trump did not wave the right white flag.
And Homan being sent there is a real key indication of that.
Also, what Trump tweeted this morning about, you know, you got to cover these five things.
He's very clear.
You're going to cooperate with the federal government on these things.
But, you know, if that doesn't happen, you what?
Send in more people.
You can't seem to arrest anybody because you can't get a judge in Minnesota to sign off on any federal warrant.
So what options do we have that are good options?
Well, number one, this is where Congress steps in and has to be able to come together to use the power of the purse, which we have been to your point, which I no doubt you no doubt are already thinking and about to say has not been effective.
We continue to fund the things that we complain about, like sanctuary cities.
We continue to fund the law enforcement that is not actually working with us.
I think we ought to not do that.
Okay.
And I think that the president ought to use every power that he can and that OMB Director Russ Vogt can use every power he can to stop funding those people who are at odds with our way of life.
But we've got to just continue to continue to back the president.
The president has to continue to put the heat on these guys and we have to win politically.
That's what we have to do.
There's no other choice.
Right now, if we, to your point, and I don't believe the president is backing up or retreating or use the phrase waving the white flag.
And I agree with you that sending Tom Homan on the ground was a big sign of that and what the president's messaging has been.
But we cannot allow them, for example, to shut down Homeland Security funding because they're trying to play this political card after this last weekend.
We've got to refocus on fraud.
And yes, we do need to figure out and go in and arrest and do the things we need to do.
And look, I'm frustrated at my Republican colleagues.
I tried to defund 20% of the budget for the D.C. circuit courts and D.C. district judges, Judge Sposeberg and Judge Boardman, and they wouldn't do it.
We had 40, what, six Republicans who wouldn't do it.
So we have to, those of us who believe and recognize what's at stake, we have to keep our foot on the gas and we have to be willing to ruffle feathers.
I can promise you a lot of my Republican colleagues were mad that we offered that amendment, Glenn.
But I offered it anyway because we have to expose the people who aren't going to recognize what time it is in America.
And then we need to make decisions in the primaries this year and this November about what we're going to do to save the country.
Because we either save it over these next three years under President Trump and Lord willing win another presidential election or there is no republic left.
You and I know this to be true.
Yeah.
Okay, Chip, hang on just a second.
We're talking to Chip Roy.
He is a congressman from the great state of Texas, also candidate for a Texas attorney general, no-nonsense kind of guy.
I want to continue our conversation here in just 60 seconds.
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10 seconds station id so as a guy who hates big government really does not trust the intel community etc etc but i also am an individual that knows what the intel community has and how they can use it and what they store etc etc
All of the information that is coming out, Chip, about what's happening in Minnesota, you've got people like Data Republican and Cam Higby that are revealing all of these connections.
You're seeing them now in almost real time.
Can I ask you, where the hell is the NSA?
If you've got out-of-country actors participating in this stuff that we now know is happening, we know the NSA copies every key stroke everybody makes.
Where the hell is this information?
Why are we not getting this information from a government agency?
Why haven't they tied this down yet?
Well, that's a question that, of course, the NSA and the NSA alone can answer.
And look, let me just give you a glimpse and your listeners a glimpse.
I'm trying to right now, separate issue, but hear me out because it matters.
I'm trying to get information out of our Intel community to explain to me the dangers posed to our country that I believe exist.
These are the rationales for things like Golden Dome, the rationales for a new modern military.
And I'm going to leave it at that.
But I believe that there is a very strong case to be made for us making investments in and changes to our military and defense of our nation.
But I need information from the Intel community to fully back that up, right?
If you're going to ask me to spend billions of dollars, I need to know why.
So I ask for briefings, and I get told somewhere between no and maybe you can go read a couple of documents.
I'm a member of Congress, Glenn, and that's what we're facing because of the arrogance of the intelligence community.
And that's not a statement about the administration.
It's a statement about that deep state intel community that never wants to be able to reveal and open the curtain.
So we've got to lean in hard.
I'm doing that every single day.
And I'm trying to push on some of my friends over the administration to say we need more information.
Now then, let's connect the doc to your point.
The attorney general has to be the vanguard out there saying we're going to explore this wherever it goes and work with the intelligence community to do what needs to be done to root out what we know is an obvious coordinated network to Marxists, leftists, Islamists who want to undo our country.
And look, Glenn, I don't think it is not hyperbole for you and I, for your conservative and limited government listeners who love America and America first listeners to look at what's happening and say, look, if we lose this midterm and the next presidential election, then our guns are going to be taken away.
Ammo is going to be taxed and removed from us, or they're going to try to.
They're going to censor us.
They're going to say that anything we say that's against, for example, Islam or otherwise is a hate speech.
They're going to destroy the filibuster to do that.
They're going to pack the court.
They're going to make D.C. a state.
They are going to step on the gas to remake America.
That's what's going to happen.
And we either recognize that and recognize that that means all of us are targets for investigation.
And they'll get their warrants and they will get us into court.
But the problem is the average American, average conservative, and certainly the average conservative or Republican politician hasn't recognized that you can't win a war if you don't acknowledge the war exists.
Yes.
Unfortunately, that is, unfortunately, that is very, very true.
Okay, Chip, where can people go?
If they want to support your campaign, where can they go to find you and help?
Chiproy TX on Twitter slash X, C-H-I-P-R-O-I-T-X.
Chiproy.com is my website.
Look, I appreciate it.
And by the way, everybody listening is like, look, the president is doing the Lord's work.
A lot of good things are happening.
It's just not happening fast enough for you and me.
We've got to all stay resolved and we've got to get everybody to gird their loins and understand what's at stake.
This country is worth fighting for.
This state of Texas is worth fighting for.
Freedom is worth fighting for.
And we've done it before, and I think we'll prevail.
But we've got to recognize it to go win it.
Thank you so much.
Chip Roy from the great state of Texas and a candidate for the Texas Attorney General.
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So, Charlie Kirk, one of his final promises to somebody was just a couple of days before he died, and it was to a pastor in South Korea, Pastor Soon.
Charlie died.
Pastor Soon went to prison, and he is awaiting trial, and it's supposed to happen in the next couple of days.
They arrested him because of election law violation.
But that's a, that's trumped up if you really look into it.
Also, nobody's ever gone to prison for it.
You know, they've been fined, et cetera, et cetera.
But this is a much larger crackdown on conservative Christians.
And the leftists have taken over in South Korea.
And it's becoming a very dangerous place for Christians.
And their father is now, they're poised to take the father's church and any church.
They're going to start doing warrantless searches.
This is South Korea.
Warrantless searches of any churches.
And they can seize any property without a warrant, again, seize any property and take it from the original owners.
And they're afraid they're going to lose the church.
The story is much bigger than just a pastor in jail in South Korea.
This is what's coming for all Christians all around the world, including in this country, if we lose the next election.
I think what Chip Roy said is absolutely right.
If we lose and this thing goes back, I mean, listen to what they're already saying about people.
They're already saying, you know, there was a, who was it this morning that came out and said they thought that Stephen Miller should be executed for the crimes against humanity, Stephen Miller.
Can you imagine what they're going to be saying about any of us?
We're in very dangerous times, and we have to stand together and help our Christian brothers and sisters all over the world.
This, the way you can help, is they have a school that they are afraid they're going to lose.
They need a Christian school that will adopt them as a satellite school because they feel if the Americans have their eyes on their father and on this church and school, they will be fine.
Please watch this.
It is the South Korea Christian Crackdown Exposed Son of Imprisoned Pastor Speaks Out.
It's available now at Glennbeck.com.
It's part of a series we're calling Torch Exclusive Conversations.
And you want to hear this.
By the way, if you're a father, you want to see two sons that love their father.
It was amazing.
I asked them, how do you feel about your father going to prison?
And he's going to get out and he's probably going to go to prison again because he's not going to stop talking.
And their reaction is absolutely beautiful.
It is amazing.
So watch that now.
You can see it at Glennbeck.com.
Stu is with us.
He is, is that, I'm sorry, I'm just looking up at the live footage of, I believe, Donald Trump and Nikki Minaj.
Minaj, as you know, Glenn Mojo.
I'm a huge fan.
You would have known that.
Yeah, I am.
A huge.
You have all of her hit, I believe.
One of them, I love.
Geez, I.
It's yes, Trump and also Kevin O'Leary.
Isn't he the Shark Tank guy?
He's there as well.
Yeah.
So I don't know what's happening.
Well, they're talking about the Trump accounts today.
That's he's introducing Trump accounts.
I think he might be in Iowa.
Where is he?
Somewhere in the Midwest.
But Nikki being there, it's an interesting, you know, but hey, whatever.
I mean, sure, could I go on a rant about Trump accounts right now and whether I believe they're a good idea?
Sure, but I want people to like me after I leave, so I'm going to hold off on that.
It's too late for that, Stu.
I already went off on Trump accounts and people.
I'm almost persona non gradas now in some circles.
Yeah, no, I mean, I get what, of course, the president's trying to do here.
And, you know, there's, I think there's a good intent behind it.
But I definitely am very, very concerned about what that could turn into when we're kind of creating a new potential entitlement and what the left will do to expand that in the future.
But I'm trying to be positive here.
And I'm trying to learn from celebrities, just like Nikki Minaj.
You know, I mean, Nikki seems to be very on the right side of things lately.
But I will say she could learn a little bit if she could just go through the social media of real celebrities.
And when I say real celebrities, I don't mean more famous than her, but I mean people who understand the real struggles of Americans.
I've been noticing this lately when it comes to the Minnesota ICE situation.
Lots of people very, very passionate about the evils of the Gestapo coming into their communities.
And when I say their community, certainly not.
Their communities, their communities.
They would never be caught living in the world.
Yeah, no, of course not.
There isn't a Somali within a thousand miles of most of these people's homes, but that's a whole different situation.
I saw Ed Norton going about it.
He was preaching to us.
We're getting it from Steve Kerr, the basketball coach who lives directly in the intersection of ignorance and certainty with his comments on this.
I just love that.
He can't believe, Glenn, you're not going to believe this.
They are kidnapping five-year-old children.
That's what ICE is doing.
To his words, they are not getting any serious criminals.
These are five-year-old children they're abducting.
That's his analysis.
I had to deal with this with my daughter yesterday.
I'm like, honey, that didn't happen.
That's not what happened.
Please, stop it.
It's so frustrating because, and you mentioned this earlier on the show, the reaction from the left is exactly the same with the Predty shooting and the good shooting and the five-year-old kidnapped.
There's no nuance between any of those stories to them.
It's just a story of the Gestapo and the five-year-old who was quote-unquote kidnapped.
The actual real story, I know you've covered it, but in case you missed it, is they were going to get an illegal immigrant who then ran from the police and abandoned his child in the cold, just left.
Now, I guess ICE could have been like, well, just like Buddy the Elf, good luck frolicking in the snow.
And we could have just let him play outside in the freezing cold.
But instead, they brought him somewhere, gave him food, and kept him warm.
That is apparently the same as a kidnapping when his dad abandoned him.
So good parenting there.
Definitely go ahead with that.
And then there's people like Pedro Pascal.
Do you know this guy, Glenn?
He's everywhere.
Yeah, he is such a, you know, he's a Star Wars hero.
I don't know if you know that.
Yeah.
Well, you know, again, Mandalorian.
You know, I don't know.
Was it actually good?
I got to be honest with you.
I got pretty bored with it in season one.
So I don't know.
I didn't actually follow through on anything.
I liked the first season.
Maybe I turned around a little bit more.
Yes, they got a cute baby Yoda.
I got it.
Okay.
Thank you for that big.
Thanks, Disney, for the wonderful ruining of the franchise.
But the only good part of that entire series, in my mind, was Gina Carano, who was actually a really interesting character.
And of course, because she decided to post something on social media that was kind of not even particularly conservative, just saying like, hey, we should make sure we don't go down a Nazi road.
That was such a horrible thing.
She was fired from her gig.
Now, Pedro Pascal also on the same show posted basically.
Not the same show that she was on and got fired for for posting.
He certainly is not on that show, and he certainly didn't post something as offensive or worse.
Right.
He posted.
First of all, the exact same thing previously, and he had no punishment for it at all.
And he's the guy.
Isn't he the guy behind the mask, too?
I mean, it's like, hey, good job.
Like, you know, what do I, wow.
You sure stood around a lot.
You know, the people, I mean, at least people know James Earl Jones.
Who was the guy that was actually in the costume?
I don't know.
I mean, only real Star Wars geeks would know that information.
But that's besides the point.
He's been very anti-ice.
You'll be surprised to hear Glenn posting about a general strike on Friday, which, by the way, I am considering participating in and being socialist for a day to avoid one more day of work with me.
I got to tell you, if you do it, I do it.
I mean, I'll strike.
I will absolutely strike.
I don't care what it's about.
Lettuce is too healthy.
I don't care what it's about.
Who cares?
It means Friday off.
I'm there.
This was my approach back in high school when they would have student walkouts at our high school.
And I didn't even know what the topic was.
I just always walked out no matter what it was.
So I'm thinking about participating in the general strike along with Pedro Pascal.
Now, Pedro Pascal is doing it because he believes, obviously, that the society is melting down and the Gestapo is here.
He wants to do the general strike.
Now, he doesn't want you to general strike and not go to participate in any commerce on May 22nd.
On January 30th, it's totally fine to do the general strike.
May 22nd is when his movie comes out, which he's promoting at the same time as giving you direction to go on general strike when other people's movies are coming out on a Friday.
He wants you to general strike those days, not May 22nd.
That day, very pro-capitalism, wants to be out there and let you know he's going to be there for you every step of the way.
I hope it is as successful as Snow White was.
I agree.
I mean, both of us, I grew up loving Star Wars.
But man, they make it hard.
They make it hard.
And he also posted.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
Impossible.
They make it impossible.
I really have lost interest in it.
And you know me, Glenn, I'm not a boycott guy or anything like that, but like the Gina Carano thing really legitimately pissed me off.
She did nothing wrong.
And it was so egregious in that sort of peak woke era.
And I just, I don't want to be part of it.
I'm not interested.
It's a stupid, you know, it's a fantasy story that I don't need anymore in my life.
And frankly, I'm done with it.
But Pedro Pascal also posted this, Glenn, I think you'll be interested in.
ICE, apparently, has killed nine people.
Nine people so far in 2026.
And I know you know about Alex Predi and Renee Goode.
You know about them.
Yeah.
Sure.
Do you know about Keith Porter?
No.
Also murdered by ICE.
You didn't even know that.
How and when you don't care?
No, how and when and where, where, where and when.
And as you'd probably assume, it was in the middle of a vicious, Gestapo, SS-like immigration raid, pretty much.
Where and when?
What were the details?
Well, I mean, the details are a little different than Renee Goode and Alex Predty.
I mean, you know.
How different?
Well, for example, you know, a guy who's an immigration agent, okay, an ICE agent.
Yeah.
He was.
Right.
He wasn't on a raid.
He was at his house and he was just off-duty, just at his house.
And he heard gunshots outside.
And, you know, Keith Porter was carrying an assault weapon, as they would call it.
And he shot him because he thought there was an active shooter situation.
It had nothing to do with immigration enforcement whatsoever.
He was just an off-duty man guarding his home from what he believed was an active shooter.
But that person has been murdered by ICE.
Bastards.
How about that?
Bastard.
Or let me give you this.
Parody Law.
Do you know Parody Law?
Who?
Parody Law.
Parody Law.
I'm seeing that happening in Washington, D.C. all the time.
No, not Parody Law.
Parody Law.
Oh.
It's like a solo kill.
La So Parody Law was also killed by ICE.
And what was the situation there?
Well, I mean, he was taken in by ICE into custody.
And then he died from severe withdrawal from opioids as they were trying to give him treatment in the hospital.
But that, again, killed him.
Murdered by ICE.
Murdered by ICE.
Wow.
Or the multiple people on this list who had heart attacks.
Murdered by ICE.
You know it's true, Glenn.
Where do you go in the whole list on Studios America, by the way, today?
They're all really interesting.
I'll tell you that.
Unbelievable.
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So did you see the video of Ilhan Omar getting sprayed with some unspecified liquid?
It's the craziest video I think I've ever seen.
This guy shows up to a talk she's giving.
He's sitting in the front row.
He literally looks like Fred Flintstone.
And I mean, he's not wearing the spotted, you know, orange jumpsuit thing, but he looks, other than that, he looks just like Fred Flintstone.
She's talking.
At some point, he jumps up and apparently, I don't know, he sprays something at her.
I don't know how, but he sprays something at her.
And then she becomes like really aggressive.
I mean, this woman's a fighter.
She just goes right after him.
And he comes down to the ground and he's tackled.
And then she gets up and she's like, we're going to do this press conference anyway.
But she's now saying, I don't know what I was hit with.
It could have been poison.
It could have been whatever.
A lot of people are speculating this is a setup.
I mean, there's lots of things I can say about Ilana Omar, but I mean, I'm hoping that it wouldn't come down to that.
I can't imagine she's doing that.
The guy looked like Fred Flintstone, at least get somebody who looks terrifying.
And is there a lab?
Is there any kind of lab that you can, you know, take that liquid to and find out what is that?