Jose Vega challenges Democrat Richie Torres as an AIPAC-funded "sellout" and Kremlin tool, rejecting a donor deal to split votes in favor of independent principles. Rex Jones and Tim Tompkins critique the two-party system's focus on donors over domestic issues like inflation, defend Alex Jones against Infowars' shutdown, and analyze Trump shooter security failures where a suspect bypassed checkpoints. Ultimately, the hosts argue voters are complicit in political lies while aiming to build an alternative media network free from rage bait and selective outrage regarding global conflicts versus child safety. [Automatically generated summary]
I mean, you know, it's, I never believed in the, you know, two party dynamic after I was like 18 years old, you know, because, you know, for people who don't know, I'm known for yelling at politicians.
I confront, you know, people who deserve to get confronted.
And it doesn't matter whether you're a Republican or a Democrat, a media person, the New York Times, I will confront you.
And, you know, so people may not know me personally, but they've probably seen my videos over the years.
Well, basically, I mean, look, on the website thing, and it's just sort of indicative of how we do everything, including to how we collect donations, we don't do ActBlue.
You know, that is all completely self hosted.
You know, we got Stripes API.
Our entire website is through our own.
You know, hosting service, we do everything via APIs and stuff.
We program everything, no, we don't do any sort of pre hosted stuff.
That's all us, and that's very much the nature of our campaign.
You know, we don't buy consultants, we don't believe in you know, earning money through all these people who say, Oh, if you give me five thousand dollars, they'll show you how to fundraise, or I'll I know what the people in your district want.
Is no, no, the best consultants are behind the door, and we take that energy and we just figure things out ourselves.
So, you know, I think that's sort of what's going.
Carried us this way is the principle that anybody, no matter who they are, with the right ideas behind them and a commitment to truth can do the right thing and make it far.
I mean, when I look at what you've done, I mean, it must be just such a hellscape to have to work in that corrupt kind of local politic level where you're having a deal with different people that are trying to get favors.
And you're like, no, actually, I'm for real.
I'm not looking to receive any handouts.
I'm looking to run a real campaign.
And I think the future really is grassroots, right?
Because you can talk about the big money, you can talk about the ad spending and whatever.
I think people under the age of 50, really under the age of 40 or 35, they're very turned off by that.
We recognize kind of like these mass media campaigns a little bit better than the older people who just kind of all consider it to be the news.
And that's not to discount older people or older voters at all.
The point I'm making here is when you're actually willing to go on the ground and talk to somebody and convince them or just give an argument, I mean, they haven't heard an argument.
And he was trying to pin me for not being a real Democrat.
He said, You're not even a real Democrat.
You ran as an independent only two years ago, and now you're not even a real Democrat.
And I said, Yeah, I'm not the party of the pedophiles.
You're right.
And it's like, that's the whole Congress.
And he said he wouldn't even vote for anyone as Speaker of the House, anyone in the Congress, because he wouldn't refuse to not commit to vote for Hawking Jeffries or Speaker of the House, because that's what the Democrats are supposed to do.
And I said, You know what?
Actually, there are three people I would vote for.
Rohanna, Thomas Massey, or Marjorie Taylor Greene, if she was still.
And then, for some reason, this debate made its way to the executive director of the Congressional Black Caucus, which represents 30 Democrat congressmen.
And he issues a statement saying, you know, oh, you're a Democrat, but why would you vote for two Republicans as Speaker of the House?
You know?
And then I exposed him because turns out this guy, Vince Evans, his whole career was AIPAC funded.
Since he was in college, there's an article written about him where he was getting trips to DC paid for by AIPAC and he got to meet Obama because of AIPAC.
Whether it's Gaza, you know, the thousands of dead Palestinian children that you funded, you know, don't you think that that's crazy?
You know, do you agree or disagree with the DNI that the war in Ukraine is pretty much over and that the Trump administration is trying to?
I'm a tool of the Kremlin, seriously.
You know what is reality that you are responsible for the death of thousands of Palestinian children, thousands of Ukrainian children.
You love funding war, you love.
Fighting genocide.
Listen, the crown prince of genocide is here, thinking he can just get away by sitting here and eating comfortably while there are thousands of Palestinian children who have to suffer because of the decisions of this guy, who is either responsible since he's in the Congress for doing absolutely nothing.
Well, what that is, and what I found is that that line of attack, that specific, you're in the pocket of Russia, you're a Kremlin tool, that's like meant to signal to other liberal Democrats, like, this guy's not with us.
He's, you know, and that's like, Most toxic thing you can be right now if you're a Democrat, you know, because they have that's how they work.
They have their little cliques, they have their little clubs, they have their little, you know, oh no, we're Democrats all the way, we're blue all the way, right?
And so there's certain little phrases that they try to label you as so that anybody who's a part of that club knows, okay, this guy's not the guy we should be, you know, associating with.
So him calling me a Kremlin tool is meant to signal to other people he's not the real Democrat.
That's what that actually is, you know, of course.
Yeah, well, just to give a little context about that video before we keep playing it, by the way, that's actually the second time I ran into him that week.
Yeah, and that's around Christmas time.
I didn't record the first time because we were actually.
So he was actually doing like a private gathering.
With some people that he selected from the neighborhood a few days before.
And they didn't realize I got the invite too from someone else who sent it to me.
So I just showed up and, you know, I didn't have, well, I had meta glasses I was supposed to wear, but I didn't realize what the situation was.
I thought I'm going to go in, get comfortable, then put them on.
But I walk in and I'm like looking around.
I turn around.
It's like, oh shit, there he is.
He's literally right next to me.
So I just go right into it.
I go, Congressman.
And he's like, he just says, what are you doing here?
You weren't invited.
And I just try to shake his hand.
I'm like, oh, Congressman, come on.
It's the holidays, you know?
Like, what's up, man?
So, anyway, like, oh, and like, I start being cheeky.
I'm like, so you're sleeping okay at night, or does the weight of a thousand dead children on you lie in your conscience?
Like, you know, you got bags under your eyes.
Like, I'm just starting to be cheeky with him, but I couldn't record any of it because, you know, I didn't realize like he was just going to be standing there already.
And at that point, like, there were like five people that just escorted me out.
At this point, when I find out that he's at a diner, because there's people in the Bronx that, you know, like let me know, like, hey, he's, he's, you know, hosting an event here or there, whatever.
I just got news that he was at that diner.
So I'm like, okay, this is it.
This is redemption.
Like, now I'm about to get over there and confront him because he hasn't held a town hall, which is what you're supposed to do as an elected official.
I think over two years, three years now, actually.
And the last time he held a town hall, I think I confronted him at that one too over Nord Stream and whatnot and like completely embarrassed him there too.
But yeah, so that's what this video in the diner is like, you know.
Well, first of all, you got to know about Tavistock brainwashing.
But anyway, that's.
That's a whole other enchilada.
No, here's the story with Richie Torres.
If you don't know this, Richie Torres is on the record for talking about the fact that he's on antidepressants and he's on like a cocktail of antidepressants.
And he's been on a cocktail of antidepressants since he was a teenager.
You know, he had some identity problems.
He came out as gay in his sophomore year of high school.
You know, that can be very tough for you, right?
But then he started working for, I think, an assemblyman, you know, in his late teens as a volunteer.
Then he goes to NYU and then he has this episode where he's at NYU and he has to become hospitalized for a week because of his depression.
It's like, okay, well, hold on.
So he's hospitalized and then he comes out of there and he has a cocktail of drugs they put him on.
So he comes out and he's on a cocktail of, you know, depression meds.
And then he doesn't finish NYU and said he goes back to work for the assemblyman, this time not as a volunteer, but directly in a top position as housing director.
So he's immediately put in a position of high power in a councilman's office at like the age of 19 or 20.
No formal education, which again, hey, I don't have a degree either, but that is a little odd that you immediately go into as housing director.
And then he's put in the city council in 2013.
When he's 23 years old and he's elected as the youngest city councilman, yeah, no, it's young, progressive, LGBTQ, or whatever, right?
And then in 2015, APAC comes in and they start funding his trips to Israel.
And then suddenly he becomes a congressman in 2020.
What this is speculation, of course, I don't know this is grooming.
Okay, APAC wants to have their claws in elected officials.
When they're young and give them a boatload of money, who are always going to be programmed.
I think there is some level of brainwashing, some level of like, have you ever seen the movie Get Out, you know, where they, they like, you know, make them subservient and the only way to break the brainwashing is with like a flash photo?
I think that that is the problem with Richie Torres and somebody should go and like take a picture with flash photography and break him out because I think he's been, I think through opinion and speculation, you know, there's been some form of programming and brainwashing there.
So when he, Is confronted in that way because there's no to him.
There's no substance to him.
He is literally an empty suit.
Like he's not a real person.
He's just whatever they want him to be in the way they've controlled him to be this way.
He can't actually respond in substance other than just your Kremlin tool, leave me alone.
I've got to run away because there's nothing to him.
Just the mere fact of being in kind of like these institutions from an early age does shape your outlook on how you behave and your characteristics.
That you can follow a clear trail to how a person develops.
So, you know, being taught how to be a constituent very early on, how to run, how to campaign, all of those different things, they probably become almost less organic and it becomes more like a science of how to get in rather than just the organic.
And one thing I'll add to that, Is, you know, it doesn't always have to be a clear cut system to where, like, there's a guy that decides, okay, we select these people, they're going down this path, and this is the way it goes.
There's also the case of just the natural progression.
Like, for example, people who want to get into politics normally go to particular schools in Washington, D.C. for college, right?
Because it's like the closest you can get to working your way around so that you can climb up, and there's a There's just a natural pathway of what they say.
If you want to go to point A to point B, this is kind of how you need to do.
And so those things will come up naturally just by the mere fact of like, I'm sure at one point he was like, I have a vision that I want to be in some position of power.
But the problem with that is, you know, everybody around you has also consumed the exact same mindset almost to get there as well.
Is they literally like it's not a real job, right?
Like, I was in Suleiman's space or another space, I forget where it was.
And they had a guy who claimed that like he was in the administration in some like mid level bureaucratic position where he was actually like he had poll and he could make decisions.
And you know, we're part of the team, you know, we always hear about the team that takes care of it, especially on the Republican side, part of the team.
And he's, well, you know, we're working hard, I'm working hard with JD on that, and all this ridiculous garbage.
And when I get the mic, I say, hey, man, like, you realize you work at a clown college, right?
Like, you're a dog catcher, a carny.
Actually, those people are far more noble and qualified than you.
It's a complete empty suit job.
Like, we don't have real people in the government, whether they're appointed or they're elected.
And that's because of the system that we're talking about here today.
Yesterday, I got to speak at a high school down in Manhattan, actually, because some in, and I won't say exactly why, but basically, they, you know, Jack Schloschberg, this, like, there's something like related to a Kennedy.
He's running for Congress in the district in New York 12, a different district, and he stiffed a group of high school kids.
They asked me to step in.
One of the questions they had asked me was, What are some ways in which the Democratic Party is failing people now?
I said, No, no, don't think about this Democrat, Republican.
The whole Congress is failing people right now.
It doesn't matter whether they're Republican or Democrat, they are all manufactured empty suits, every single one of them.
I told them that my solution is to replace the entire Congress right now with people who are between the ages of 25 and 35.
I really mean that, you know, because there is no, like you said, there is no real person in government right now that actually cares.
You don't even know if the politician that you're talking to is the person who's actually going to think about what you're saying, or you have to figure out who's donating to them and try to talk to them instead.
You know, maybe that's what we should do.
We should call these people's donors and say, hey, can you actually advocate for something else?
That might be funny to do.
But I think that people should think about it in the way you just laid it out.
People are, the congressmen are manufactured Dem, Republican, it's all the same thing.
And there are giant theaters that happen in the Congress where they have this rotating villain.
This War Powers Resolution, think about it, right?
Democrats say they want to pass a War Powers Resolution.
Well, before they all broke at the end of March, there was an opportunity to pass a War Powers Resolution.
You know, one of the ranking Democrats on the Foreign Affairs Committee, Gregory Meeks, was saying, I'm going to bring a war powers resolution.
I'm going to bring a war powers resolution.
Well, he actually had the vote.
Four Republicans were going to vote with the Democrats.
And at the point that they had the vote, he says, I'm not going to bring it.
And it's just very interesting to see all this play out.
And one thing I'm curious, Jose, is like now that you've kind of been in the game, you're running the race, what are some of the dirty stuff that you're seeing in politics?
Because now you're experiencing a whole different realm that Rex and I don't get to see, the average person doesn't get to see.
Because we're just consumers.
We're just watching.
But now you're in meetings, you're in conversations.
It's just like I've seen the other side of how people get bought and owned.
I was in a conversation with some big political donor, you know.
And I'm not going to say names.
I'm not going to say what groups they represent or who this was.
And just to really add some ambiguity, I've had multiple conversations like this.
You know, because the kind of ego that this person has, he would try to say, he would maybe come out and be like, ah, that was me, he said.
So, point is, I met with somebody who has an interest in the race.
And, you know, they were supposed to feel me out and ask, you know, there was a meeting arranged and, you know, and, uh, At one point in the conversation, you know, this person is asking me about my background and what I do.
And, you know, he's like, How old are you?
I go, I'm 27.
He's like, Wow, 27.
Wow, that is so amazing.
You know, even my daughter watches your videos where you confront people.
That is amazing, Jose, 27 years old.
Well, and you're running in the Dem primary.
Let me, let me, there's two scenarios.
One scenario, I help you in your race.
You know, we put down serious money, we buy ads, you go on.
You know, you win the race, you go on to change the world.
Let me paint you the second scenario, the more realistic one.
You stay in the race, Michael Blake stays in the race, right?
And, you know, you're going to split the vote.
That's just the truth.
You know, you're going to split the vote, you know, and Richie Torres is going to continue to be the congressman, and no one's going to be happy with that outcome, right?
Who's to say people are going to care about you after this race is over?
See, if I was managing your campaign, no offense to your campaign manager, who is right next to me, by the way, listen, Jose, I could take your career so much higher.
And let me paint a picture Michael Blake in front of you, and you right behind him, advising him, telling him what the young people want to hear.
How about that, Jose?
And you just, you know, And then two years from now, four years from now, even, maybe we do something else.
Maybe we try again.
Maybe Michael Blake wants to run for something higher and you can take his seat.
It is disgusting because I think this was when Trump put out that truth social post about how he's going to end a civilization tonight.
And I had made the point to this person I said, look, you know, I want to stop nuclear war, I want to stop destructions of civilization.
I want to stop the bloodshed now.
And the person goes, Well, you can do that two years from now.
You could do that four years from now, you know?
And I'm like, Are you serious?
Are you completely out of your mind?
And like, that's why I was proud at that moment for my campaign manager to be there because she just went off on the dude, was like, No, we stand for principle.
We stand for principle.
We don't do things because they're politically convenient.
We don't do things, okay, because of what's a better path this way, that.
We do things on principle and we stand on truth, and the right time to stand on principles all the time.
And this guy just goes, Well, look, you know, there are ways in which you can do things and not compromise who you are, you know?
And, like, I, you know, and I know other people that have taken that deal.
Basically, you know, and like you start identifying them so easily now when they come across your way and they try to, you know, slip the same offer in a different way, or they just try to, well, you know, let me just ask the question, you know, don't you want Richie Torres to be out of office, right?
And, you know, Michael Blake is a little more experienced than you, right?
And wouldn't it be ultimately a good thing, right?
And I go, yeah, Michael Blake's an airhead.
He's over here defending the Democratic Party.
He's calling Richie Torres.
A Republican as an attack.
And I'm here saying, really?
Nancy Pelosi is endorsing Richie Torres.
Hakeem Jeffries is endorsing Richie Torres.
And I'm supposed to believe you when you say, oh, he's a Republican, even though the entire Democrat senior leadership is saying, no, he's more of a Democrat than you are, Mr. Blake.
So what are you talking about?
He's there to defend the system.
Why would I ever back someone like that who's just completely, you know, thinking on this red, blue, you know, my team is better than your team?
It's BS.
People are tired of it, and we're there to disrupt the system.
You're blowing my mind because what this makes me understand is there's levels to this, right?
Like what you just described is big in itself, but then you can extrapolate that at the highest levels and understand that there are conversations that happen just like that that mirror the exact same scenario.
And you're right.
Some guy is going to take that deal because he's going to make the conclusion in his head.
The human survival mode in him is going to kick in and be like, well, I can't really change the world.
I might as well take this deal because I'll end up being in a better position and the selfishness starts to come out.
And I think that's what's been causing the problem people are presented with the blue or the red pill and they take the blue one just because it's so much easier and there's less sacrifice that has to come with that.
And, like, it, you know, you realize in order to make it in the political world today, like in the mainstream way, if you want to be part of either major party, if you ever do want to be an elected official, you are supposed to bend.
You are supposed to bend over.
You are supposed to take it in some way or another.
And, you know, then if you do make it in there, they have some compromising material on you and they can.
Pull you out anytime you want.
Like Eric Swalwell is a great example.
I'm sure you guys heard about this guy, Eric Swalwell.
You guys heard about this, right?
The guy with the scandals because he was sleeping with his.
So he was running for governor of California, but basically what happened was, and he was leading, he was like a leading Democrat in the race, too.
Like he looked like he could have taken it home.
Then all of a sudden, just some story break that he was sleeping with his interns, you know, six years ago, and four years ago, and two years ago, right?
And, you know, all the whole Congress is acting like they're, You know, oh my God, I can't believe this sex pest, even though he was like a pretty high ranking Democrat congressman.
But the thing is, this was known.
He was allowed to go into the Congress because this was known.
And it's the same reason he was taken out.
See, you're allowed to go into the club as long as you've got, you know, they've got something on you and they can control you.
My theory as to why they did this was because Eric Swalwell wasn't showing up to Congress for months, like, he just never voted.
But he had made a commitment to come into the Congress to vote for the War Powers Resolution, you know, that Meeks was supposed to introduce that he ultimately didn't introduce.
And so that I think this was a sort of like, oh, really?
You're going to try and mess this up now?
You're out of Congress.
That's my theory.
I don't know.
But my point is that almost all of those congressmen probably have something that they can just instantly yank them out of.
And I think that you, like Thomas Massey, who don't have something like that, have to be taken out of the way of spending millions and millions of dollars.
And that story makes me think of like Eric Mayor Adams when, you know, suddenly the scandal comes out against him in like the very last leg of whatever he had left.
And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
He's been here for four years and this story's just coming out.
But at the time, the timing wasn't matching because he was doing something that people weren't liking.
I never believe that the big bad is too big and bad.
You know, there's often a saying that, you know, evil men get away with their evil deeds because, you know, good men don't act against it or something, right?
Well, I think evil deeds happen because good people don't do anything, period.
You know, there's different ways to sort of go at this, but my number one thing is that people should never give up hope and that you have to constantly fight against this.
And actually, the tides are shifting back in the favor of the people.
Things are just getting so bad nowadays that even the war in Iran is having a real effect on people's everyday lives.
Just look at the gas prices, look at the oil prices that are going up, the commodities that are about to become more expensive.
I think.
The truth is that people have a lot more power than they realize.
And it's important that we remind people that, especially through things like just reading the Declaration of Independence.
You know, that's something that I try to do with people who come to my office, our high school interns.
And, you know, we say, When's the last time you read it?
A lot of people never read it.
A lot of people said, Oh, maybe once in school.
And when they read it, it's like, Yeah, like that's what our country was founded on.
You read the list of grievances, most of those still apply today.
And I was one funny instance where a volunteer said, Man, You know, if more people read this, there'd be a revolution in the street.
It's like, yeah, that's right.
It's important that people read the documents that actually founded this country and realize that we are so far from that right now, but that is who we are.
And that's the mission we're taking out into the streets when we're out organizing, when we're out talking to people.
You know, I don't know what's going to happen with this vote, but you know what?
We're going to try to get everybody to read the Declaration of Independence.
We're going to try to raise the consciousness of people so that they know what it means to be an American citizen, because there is a dignity and an authority.
That comes with being a citizen.
And that is more important than any elected official.
And that's what we have to do.
We have to give people a hope that somebody is coming to disrupt the system.
And that's what we're doing with this campaign.
And I see it also happening around the country, like Brian McGinnis, that Marine who had his arm broken because he said he didn't want to die for Israel.
He's running for the Senate.
You know, these are people that are, you know, making a revolution.
The one of the well, one of the trailblazers that I'm seeing that's doing a very good job with this is Thomas Massey.
I mean, now you could say, Do you think he's trying to grift, whether he's trying to do whatever?
It's hard to tell, but for me, when I see a level of authenticity there too, well, you know, like he's making posts and you just see millions of people interacting because you can see the consensus, you know, you know where the people are at.
And so, not enough people are doing that, but it's just like.
Well, this is something bizarre to me because, like, tapping into what you're saying here, I talked to Keaton about this when I guest hosted Due Dissidence.
The opportunistic thing and the moral thing to do overlap.
Like, it would be advantageous to you to advocate for the people and to give something back to them for a change and to end the wars and in the domestic abuse and in the inflation.
Well, I think that, I mean, in the mind of the elected official, they probably think, That look like Thomas Massey, for example, had a great exchange about this on X. You know, he had dropped the news that Apex spent $800,000 in his race and that Miriam Adelson donated a million dollars.
And somebody commented, But Thomas, why are you worried?
You know, you've stuck to your principles, you tell the truth.
You know, people should know at this point who you are and what you stand for.
And his response was, Yes.
However, the problem is that they're poisoning the well so much and outspending me that some people will just believe these.
These lies, right?
And I think that, you know, Thomas Massey right now is a good example of somebody who's coming up against that machine full force.
And I think people need to start preparing just in case things don't go his way.
I don't think people should get comfortable, frankly.
You're saying that you think that there's actually, you know, a sizable chance that Ed Galleron's going to be able to blow him out of the water with the APAC money and the Trump backing?
And I think the Iranians picked up on that because when the president of Iran released that five page statement, all the memes, all the comments were like, oh, listen, man, people can't read this.
And this is like an eighth grade.
So, what did they do?
They just started putting out Lego Iran videos, right?
And like the AI slop, and that's been like super effective, right?
But, you know, no, it's like the powers that be have intentionally kept people so uneducated, have kept them ignorant, have ruined our education standards, have made people forget what it means to be an American citizen.
So, an ad, you know, that just says Thomas Massey votes like a liberal Democrat, he votes with Ilhan Omar and AOC.
Then you get people's like, well, I don't want that.
I didn't know all that.
Oh, golly gee.
That is enough for people to be like, well, I guess.
And that's what Thomas Massey is coming up against.
He's coming up against decades of just conditioning and brainwashing.
And that's why I'm saying people should not get comfortable.
Now, that's why Massey's constantly asking for donations, as he should be.
That's why he's constantly telling people this is what he's up against, because that's what he's supposed to do.
And that's also why Ed Gallerine isn't showing up at those debates.
It's the same reason Richie Torres didn't show up at my debate because there's nothing there.
I think it's beautiful because it transcends everything that we're talking about.
Democrat, Republican means nothing when you have a hostile and captured Congress.
And the fact that there's an event that's saying, you know what, let's just try to find the rational people that want to go beyond.
Republican, Democrat, because that is a game.
It's like putting ants in a box and then you shake it up and you get them to fight each other.
That's what that is, Democrat, Republican.
The whole Congress has got to go.
The entire government has to be replaced.
And this event, I think, is tapping into that national tension that exists where people don't want to vote Republican or Democrat anymore because they're so fed up.
And we have to come together to figure out what is an independent way forward.
And that does look like some people running in the Democratic primary, some people running in the Republican primary, but never playing in to this whole my team is better than that person's team, but an understanding that everybody wants the same thing.
We all just want a better future for our kids.
That doesn't look, you know, that doesn't require you to be a Dem or a Republican.
That requires you to have policy, ideas, a conscience, you know, and where you actually serve the interests of your constituents, not of your donors.
It's like, should we have, you know, maybe like a fund for people to have like childcare where we can contribute like a good amount of money towards that?
And what I've heard from people, I've had some of these conversations with people that I know, right?
That I would consider to be very politically informed.
And the thing is, like, we don't want to give a handout to anybody.
Everybody's got to work for theirs because we got to work for ours.
I don't want to give anything to anybody.
The tax money is all fake.
It's all deficit spending.
They make the money up out of thin air.
It's not real.
Like, okay, it makes America worse if we descend into hyperinflation.
What if we just spent the same amount of money we spent on the wars, 10 trillion here at home domestically?
Even if everyone, I get this all the time, even if it's all Wally people, I think that would be a much better world than a burned out crater, World War III, which is what these people want to produce.
That's what I see.
That's what gets me angry, is like, these things are so simple, they're so cheap.
It's cheap to help people.
It's cheap to give them food.
It's cheap to take care of them.
When you look at a $10 trillion expense bill, it's crazy.
And it's more productive and it actually brings money back into the economy.
You have a better economy if people are healthy, if people aren't worried about paying health bills, if people can actually afford to live and have good standards of living.
Who knew that that would actually help contribute to a better economy?
So, this is going to be an event that happens in Columbus, Ohio.
And as you can see, you can go down to the section that has like the speakers.
And let's just go ahead and view all speakers and we can kind of show a little bit.
So, this is being run primarily by Amy Dangerfield.
I think, was it Amy that kind of spearheaded this thing and kicked it all off?
Like, I'm pretty sure it was.
So, props to her.
And then a Casey Putch, we've had him.
You know, Jake Shields is going to be there.
A lot of guys, you can keep scrolling down.
It's basically a combination of like political commentators, people who are in media, and then the actual candidates themselves, both on the right and left.
People that we've interviewed, people that we haven't interviewed, but are running these grassroots campaigns to change America.
And this is why it's so cool to talk to people like this and people running in like local and statewide elections.
It's really interesting to see what they have to say.
I will say, someone in the chat, and this is just me personally having to clarify something because maybe you're a new viewer, maybe you're coming across me for the first time.
And if you enjoyed the show, I really appreciate it.
This is not a bruise on my head.
All right.
This is a birth.
Everyone always keeps asking you, like, they're down on the red man.
This is it's going to be so cool when you see this, when it drops, when it comes out.
And something I really hope we're going to be able to do, and we'll release multiple different versions of this because it's really going to be evergreen, like, it's going to be amazing.
In between the walkthrough, like when I'm referencing things or talking about how it used to be, we have tons of old footage of that place.
So being able to toss that, you see what I'm saying?
Like, this is gonna be, you're gonna love it.
And like, this is the thing is like, we have these ideas, we make these things for you guys.
And the biggest thing that I want to say is that every single person that not only just supports InfoWars, I know a lot of you guys are here that are from the InfoWars family and now you have come into our family here in the gray area.
This is, you know, we're trying to steer the next generation, but Alex Jones' network is also going to be a big thing on its own as well.
So you're going to see a progression of bigger and better things on every single thing that we're going to be doing going forward.
It's so weird because today I was sitting, I was working at my engineering job, and like my boss sees like the InfoWars logo and he's like, Oh, InfoWars.
I'm like, You know InfoWars?
He's like, Yeah.
He's like, I was watching that in 2005, and I'm like, Holy crap.
And he was watching my dad in that room that we filmed out of today.
That's all another thing.
We didn't film in the big studio or anything like that.
That there's some audio issues, couldn't necessarily make it work, but we made it even better.
We filmed out of the original Alex Jones studio the first one, the one with all the grainy clips, the ones from uh 2002 all the way to that room justice, man.
Yeah, absolutely, that's a great way to say it.
We did that room justice.
That's the final uh taping, uh, filming that'll ever be done in that room.
After that, you know, someone will come in there, some contractor, they'll rip it out, they won't know what it was.
Last thing before I get into what we're going to cover, I want to cover this one right here.
I was going to say this on the podcast with.
Uh, the Maverick guys, but it kind of swept in, and we went on to something else, you know.
Aside of whatever you whether you love, hate, love Alex, whether you hate Alex, however people feel about him, one thing that I can say definitively is, you know, no one understands what goes through his head, the amount of pressure, like being the guy on at the head of the spear, and understanding that you're not only just have to work, it's not like he can just.
Disappear and just like relax.
There are people that rely on him for the food on his, on their tables, their family.
He's built something so monumental.
And so you can only imagine the amount of stress that somebody has to endure for almost a decade.
And here's the thing it was never, I know we got people in here because I saw one of you before.
It was never about justice.
It was never about protecting the families or any of that garbage that you've been sold.
And I know you understand the narrative that you buy into it, whatever.
It was never about that.
It was about chopping my father's legs off.
It was about taking his platform away and making sure that he didn't have a voice.
That's what they said in court.
And that's not a part of our justice system.
That's not a part of our civil court system.
That's not legal.
That is illegal.
These people were offered tens of millions of dollars.
If the operation was allowed to continue with no restriction or oversight, they would have gotten paid way more money than they're ever going to see now from the burned out husk of the operation.
They refused that.
Because they wanted to silence him.
They wanted to take his platform away.
They wanted to take something from someone and then deface it, demean it, degrade it, because that's all they're able to do.
All these people that you're a fan of, all the people that you worship, the mainstream media, the podcasts that have made an entire career off of bottom feeding off my dad, whatever you want to say, all of that is an infrastructure that exists artificially.
It's propped up by big money that you don't even know about or realize.
Yeah, even if you justify and say that, like, oh, he said the things and all of those things, you got to understand the punishment has to match the crime.
I just, the last thing I'll say is I really appreciate not only, you know, the InfoWars family, but you also bringing me in and making me feel comfortable doing all of that and just everyone just being super supportive and just never had any problems with me.
And that's the thing is like the people watching this, and we love and adore the viewers and listeners that are out there, but there are also people out there that, you know, may not see things from our perspective.
They literally think it's like a Heil Hitler Nazi fest.
They say, oh, no, this thing that's profitable, that's working, that's making money for people, that's allowing people to eat and sleep at night and to live in homes.
We got to take that away because people's feelings were hurt one time.
So what they did is they took 2015 to 2018, where InfoWars generated $180 million in gross revenue.
Now, keep in mind, this is a company.
With 78 employees, this is a company with two massive facilities three actually, both sides of that office, like those two buildings, and then a nearly 20,000 square foot warehouse.
All right, and you're paying for even more people over there.
It's a crew of like 100 people that's 100 people that you're paying twice a month on payroll.
All right, so they throw together this big number, and in the minds of the people they're propagandizing, they see my dad as like a mega church pastor.
But like, I mean, you got a guy, it's just like, And here's the thing is, like, this guy is like, he's got some sort of science degree, and he's like, I'm just going to run in here and get shot.
Well, and here's the thing is, like, we were talking to Maverick about this, and they're talking about like the NASA ties, and there is stuff that is weird.
There is stuff that's worth looking into, but not everything is like complete nutball.
It's hard to, and it's also hard to, Draw strings.
And I told them this.
I said, look, there are parts of the story and everything in which there are details that are true, but the correlation and causality is not the same thing all the time.
Like they could be completely independent events.
That is, those things do happen.
And so sometimes people have bits and pieces of the story and they have certain parts that are accurate, but the full linear story might be completely different than how you piece and stitch that together.
And ABC reported law enforcement sources believe that he booked it in earlier April.
So he already knew it was going to happen there and he booked a room.
He was already in the hotel.
And so, you know, he just was a regular guest.
And that's the dangerous part because a hotel guest can already be inside of the building and, you know, without being cleared to enter the president's event.
I'm telling you, you're thinking between the layer of where they're met, where they're like doing all the security and checking if you have a gun versus getting to their room.
There's, All types of security, and you're talking about a far distance before you even hit that room.
So that is the argument as to what he is actually trying to get accomplished there because no one should attempt to ever do anything like this, right?
But he had the idea of, oh, I'm going to go change the world.
I'm going to go run in there and do something.
That's why I do look at it from the perspective of, I'm not 100% on anything I lean towards strongly, to be honest, lean towards like this just being like a random whack job.
But they do also want to really build the ballroom.
So it is very, it's just, it's very weird.
And like we live in an age, like how many times has Trump been targeted now?
Like three times apparently.
Like you think about these political assassinations.
Trump even came out and talked about it.
I think a president getting shot at is like a six or a nine percent chance.
One of the mantras of the presidential protection detail is to pay attention to detail.
And that's one of the failures that I see with Butler not only was he able to get off rounds, but he was able to focus in, to see the protectee from outside the venue, and to put those shots in with some accuracy.
So that's actually multiple failures.
You don't want to be reacting to the sound of gunshot because those bullets have already whizzed past if you hear it.
When prevention doesn't work and now you're reacting, your job is to cover.
The protectee and then to evacuate that protectee.
And the cover looked outstanding.
The reaction by the detail was very good.
They were very fast.
It was fearless as it should be.
Their training kicked in and they did exactly what we trained to do, which is get on top of that protectee and put them down.
Put them down behind some assets and resources where they can't take another intentional, focused shot at the protectee.
There are a myriad of ways that that could have been and should have been prevented.
That weren't that day.
Shipping containers blocking line of sight.
You can't use a shipping container, which is going to stop the bullets.
Could you use a flag?
Could you use a banner?
Could you turn that stage to where the back of the stage is now facing that threat zone that maybe you don't have all the resources to post, but you could can't the stage such that it takes away that line of sight.
And now your line of sight is an empty field, bulletproof glass.
We use that at the National Lighting of the Christmas Tree every year for outdoor events.
And so those.
Those resources are there.
I think the investigation is going to have to ask those hard questions as to why weren't those kind of resources used for this event.
A lot of what you see is kind of like the tip of the iceberg.
You saw the protective detail around President Trump, and they're the ones in the suits that reacted and jumped on top of him and then tried to affect that getaway from the scene.
You also saw counter assault team members who came out from their position, kind of out of sight at a tactical position, but now they've come out of that tactical position into actual tactics.
You saw them on stage because they had the helmets and the black gear.
Thomas Crooks had two parents that were both, I think they're government psychologists or social workers.
Thomas Crooks had no silverware in his house.
Thomas Crooks has his school photo where he's wearing the Mount Rushmore shirt.
They want to convince you that he's an Iranian.
We know absolutely nothing.
About Thomas Crooks, who he was, who his family currently is.
You don't know the names of any of these people.
You don't know where they're at.
You don't know what they're doing.
And you would think, and you've talked about this a lot before, and I have as well, if you're the president and someone tries to kill you, what's the first thing you do when you're in office?
And the only thing I can justify or think of, like, if you want to take the more logical route for this, of like how all of that happened, is, you know, Trump wasn't.
The suspect may have booked a hotel room ahead of time.
He may have, you know, that may have put him inside of the outer layer of security.
And then he allegedly moved towards the event area, rushed the checkpoint, went to the ballroom, see if his service already stopped him.
So, you know, this was probably not a guy who passed through every Secret Service check.
It was more like a guy who had hotel access, reached the edge of a secure zone, and was attacked at the checkpoint, which these things do happen.
Like, we can go through history and see, like, people who have tried to make attempts, and it's pretty, it overlaps in certain aspects with things like this.
So, like, it's just this insane standard of, like, if you're ever wrong about anything, you're evil, and you're also in part responsible for it.
And it's like we're all victims in this.
We've all been lied to by this political system.
Left, right, center, it doesn't matter anymore.
All these politicians are evil.
I'm glad that my dad has realized that about Trump.
It took a long time, too long, in my opinion.
I'm critical of that.
But at the end of the day, my dad doesn't like death.
He doesn't like little children being murdered.
And you might go, huh, you're talking about Sandy Hook.
You don't care about that at all.
Every day on the nightly news, across all mainstream media platforms, they cover up and advocate for child murder, ethnic cleansing, and multiple genocides.
They are never sued, they are never called out.
Your favorite podcasters, the knowledge fight people, will never do an episode on that, never even paralleling it to the Alex Jones thing, showing, hey, this happened.
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