Gray Area - Rex Jones & Tim Tompkins - Trump shooter EXPOSED | Jose Vega LIVE | Gray Area LIVE #67
Aired: 2026-04-27
Duration: 01:43:33


=== Full Circle Independence Moment (02:05) ===

[00:01:33]  Okay, go ahead and take a slide, bud.
[00:01:58]  Evening, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:02:01]  It has been a long day, but we are glad to be here with you guys this evening.
[00:02:06]  We got a special guest in the building, Jose Vega.
[00:02:09]  We do.
[00:02:10]  We do.
[00:02:10]  But before anything, we want to say this is episode 6-7.
[00:02:14]  So, got to do the Zoomer thing.
[00:02:16]  Yeah, buddy.
[00:02:17]  Got to have a little fun with it.
[00:02:19]  Jose, how are you doing today, sir?
[00:02:21]  I'm doing good.
[00:02:22]  Doing good.
[00:02:23]  Happy to be here.
[00:02:23]  Happy to be alive.
[00:02:24]  Thanks for inviting me back.
[00:02:26]  And yes, 6-7.
[00:02:27]  Very good.
[00:02:28]  Love you.
[00:02:29]  You're always welcome to come on.
[00:02:31]  When I called you, you called me back after like five minutes and you were like, I'm collecting signatures, right?
[00:02:36]  So, what were you working on?
[00:02:38]  Yeah, basically.
[00:02:39]  So, we've collected signatures to get on the Democratic ballot.
[00:02:42]  We're on the ballot now on the Democratic primaries, June 23rd.
[00:02:47]  Richie Torres is going to get it from me.
[00:02:51]  And, but here's the thing we're doing a two pronged approach because we're not just Democrats, we're independents.
[00:02:56]  And in New York, you can do both.
[00:02:58]  So, we're running independence.
[00:03:00]  And what we were doing is we were collecting signatures to get my name on the independent ballot.
[00:03:05]  So, win or lose in June, I will still be on the ballot for the general election in November.
[00:03:09]  Nice, nice.
[00:03:10]  And there's new people who don't know you because it's been a while.
[00:03:15]  You've grown a lot, we've grown a lot.
[00:03:17]  So, it's nice to do a full circle moment.
[00:03:20]  So, for people who don't know, Jose Vega is a great guy here.
[00:03:24]  He's running for a congressional seat in the state of New York.
[00:03:28]  And, you know, we've had him on the show before in our more infancy stages, but now, you know, he's making real headwinds.
[00:03:36]  I'm seeing you pop up all over the place.
[00:03:38]  You're in the algorithm now.

=== Collecting Signatures for June (05:18) ===

[00:03:39]  Yeah, you're in the algorithm now.
[00:03:41]  And also, we'll get into this, but Jose is actually going to be one of the speakers at the America First conference.
[00:03:49]  We will be there as well.
[00:03:50]  That is going to be happening on Saturday.
[00:03:53]  So you want to catch him, you want to see what he has to say.
[00:03:56]  He is part of this new grassroots movement, and we want to give him the support that he deserves because.
[00:04:02]  He is not part of the establishment, guys.
[00:04:05]  Absolutely not.
[00:04:07]  I mean, you know, it's, I never believed in the, you know, two party dynamic after I was like 18 years old, you know, because, you know, for people who don't know, I'm known for yelling at politicians.
[00:04:18]  I confront, you know, people who deserve to get confronted.
[00:04:22]  And it doesn't matter whether you're a Republican or a Democrat, a media person, the New York Times, I will confront you.
[00:04:28]  And, you know, so people may not know me personally, but they've probably seen my videos over the years.
[00:04:34]  Right.
[00:04:35]  Yeah.
[00:04:35]  So what's changed, man?
[00:04:37]  Because you're in full swing.
[00:04:39]  When you were just starting out, you were kind of getting your wheels greased.
[00:04:43]  You were starting to roll, but now you're full steam ahead.
[00:04:45]  And I see the update to your website.
[00:04:47]  It's looking different, it's looking new.
[00:04:50]  So, a lot of changes, huh?
[00:04:52]  Yeah.
[00:04:52]  Well, basically, I mean, look, on the website thing, and it's just sort of indicative of how we do everything, including to how we collect donations, we don't do ActBlue.
[00:05:02]  You know, that is all completely self hosted.
[00:05:05]  You know, we got Stripes API.
[00:05:07]  Our entire website is through our own.
[00:05:10]  You know, hosting service, we do everything via APIs and stuff.
[00:05:14]  We program everything, no, we don't do any sort of pre hosted stuff.
[00:05:18]  That's all us, and that's very much the nature of our campaign.
[00:05:22]  You know, we don't buy consultants, we don't believe in you know, earning money through all these people who say, Oh, if you give me five thousand dollars, they'll show you how to fundraise, or I'll I know what the people in your district want.
[00:05:34]  Is no, no, the best consultants are behind the door, and we take that energy and we just figure things out ourselves.
[00:05:41]  So, you know, I think that's sort of what's going.
[00:05:43]  Carried us this way is the principle that anybody, no matter who they are, with the right ideas behind them and a commitment to truth can do the right thing and make it far.
[00:05:55]  Yeah.
[00:05:56]  I mean, when I look at what you've done, I mean, it must be just such a hellscape to have to work in that corrupt kind of local politic level where you're having a deal with different people that are trying to get favors.
[00:06:06]  And you're like, no, actually, I'm for real.
[00:06:08]  I'm not looking to receive any handouts.
[00:06:10]  I'm looking to run a real campaign.
[00:06:12]  And I think the future really is grassroots, right?
[00:06:16]  Because you can talk about the big money, you can talk about the ad spending and whatever.
[00:06:19]  I think people under the age of 50, really under the age of 40 or 35, they're very turned off by that.
[00:06:26]  We recognize kind of like these mass media campaigns a little bit better than the older people who just kind of all consider it to be the news.
[00:06:33]  Yeah.
[00:06:34]  And that's not to discount older people or older voters at all.
[00:06:37]  The point I'm making here is when you're actually willing to go on the ground and talk to somebody and convince them or just give an argument, I mean, they haven't heard an argument.
[00:06:46]  All they've heard is propaganda.
[00:06:47]  So you give them facts.
[00:06:48]  Right.
[00:06:49]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:06:50]  I mean, we've run into that.
[00:06:51]  And in the streets, of course, where people, you know, are like, well, how can we trust you?
[00:06:55]  How do we know we can trust you?
[00:06:57]  And my answer to that is that I'm being attacked.
[00:06:59]  By the Democratic Party itself.
[00:07:01]  Yeah, well, I had the executive director of the Congressional Black Caucus come at me recently because I did a debate for the district.
[00:07:12]  You know, it's not just me versus Richie Torres, although he's the incumbent.
[00:07:16]  There's another guy named Michael Blake who's actually, I mean, I think this is my opinion, of course.
[00:07:20]  I have to preface things by saying it's my opinion.
[00:07:23]  I think he's there to defend the Democratic Party, you know, and to let Richie Torres go in.
[00:07:28]  A spoiler.
[00:07:29]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
[00:07:30]  I debated Michael Blake.
[00:07:33]  And he was trying to pin me for not being a real Democrat.
[00:07:36]  He said, You're not even a real Democrat.
[00:07:37]  You ran as an independent only two years ago, and now you're not even a real Democrat.
[00:07:42]  And I said, Yeah, I'm not the party of the pedophiles.
[00:07:45]  You're right.
[00:07:45]  And it's like, that's the whole Congress.
[00:07:48]  And he said he wouldn't even vote for anyone as Speaker of the House, anyone in the Congress, because he wouldn't refuse to not commit to vote for Hawking Jeffries or Speaker of the House, because that's what the Democrats are supposed to do.
[00:08:03]  And I said, You know what?
[00:08:04]  Actually, there are three people I would vote for.
[00:08:07]  Rohanna, Thomas Massey, or Marjorie Taylor Greene, if she was still.
[00:08:12]  Oh, two Republicans?
[00:08:14]  How dare you, Jose?
[00:08:17]  His circuitry broke.
[00:08:19]  He thought I was a gotcha.
[00:08:21]  And then, for some reason, this debate made its way to the executive director of the Congressional Black Caucus, which represents 30 Democrat congressmen.
[00:08:30]  And he issues a statement saying, you know, oh, you're a Democrat, but why would you vote for two Republicans as Speaker of the House?
[00:08:37]  You know?
[00:08:38]  And then I exposed him because turns out this guy, Vince Evans, his whole career was AIPAC funded.
[00:08:44]  Since he was in college, there's an article written about him where he was getting trips to DC paid for by AIPAC and he got to meet Obama because of AIPAC.
[00:08:55]  And his whole opinions were shaped by AIPAC.

=== Voting for Three Candidates (03:54) ===

[00:08:58]  So that's what I tell people in the street.
[00:09:00]  I said, I'm being attacked by the system.
[00:09:02]  That's who's attacking me.
[00:09:03]  And that's why they can trust me because we're there to disrupt it.
[00:09:06]  Well, it's amazing that someone that's like a cog in the political machine.
[00:09:12]  Points at you and goes, You're not even a member of our establishment.
[00:09:16]  Like, that's supposed to mean something.
[00:09:18]  It's like, Yeah, actually, we have ideas here.
[00:09:19]  It's not about, you know, a pin or something.
[00:09:22]  Right, right.
[00:09:23]  Yeah.
[00:09:24]  And I see, you know, you're very good in public, man.
[00:09:28]  I got to say, like, I've seen tons of videos, the man on the street stuff.
[00:09:33]  It's invigorating.
[00:09:34]  I love it.
[00:09:36]  I actually want to play this clip of you going into a diner addressing Richie Torres, the man himself.
[00:09:43]  I was like, Wow.
[00:09:45]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:09:45]  Stand on business.
[00:09:46]  And I want you to kind of, we're going to play the clip so people have some context.
[00:09:51]  But I also want you to kind of break down the background story of what happened, what happened after this.
[00:09:57]  Like, this is some spicy stuff, folks.
[00:10:00]  Let's go ahead and roll that clip, Wes.
[00:10:05]  Congressman, you eat here?
[00:10:09]  Really?
[00:10:09]  I live in the neighborhood.
[00:10:11]  Wow, that's awesome.
[00:10:12]  You know, it's hard because people don't often see you in the neighborhood.
[00:10:16]  That's crazy.
[00:10:17]  You know, let me tell you something.
[00:10:19]  What is it about you in Endless War?
[00:10:21]  You just seem to love war, whether it's Ukraine.
[00:10:24]  Whether it's Gaza, you know, the thousands of dead Palestinian children that you funded, you know, don't you think that that's crazy?
[00:10:32]  You know, do you agree or disagree with the DNI that the war in Ukraine is pretty much over and that the Trump administration is trying to?
[00:10:42]  I'm a tool of the Kremlin, seriously.
[00:10:46]  You know what is reality that you are responsible for the death of thousands of Palestinian children, thousands of Ukrainian children.
[00:10:54]  You love funding war, you love.
[00:10:58]  Fighting genocide.
[00:10:59]  Listen, the crown prince of genocide is here, thinking he can just get away by sitting here and eating comfortably while there are thousands of Palestinian children who have to suffer because of the decisions of this guy, who is either responsible since he's in the Congress for doing absolutely nothing.
[00:11:19]  Because there's so much.
[00:11:21]  It's so dense.
[00:11:23]  I love, what did you call him, the crown prince of genocide?
[00:11:26]  The crown prince of genocide, which I mean, he's taken like, I think it's a million and a half or something like that.
[00:11:31]  It truly is crazy.
[00:11:32]  But notice how the deflection, it's classic.
[00:11:35]  It's, you're a tool of the Kremlin.
[00:11:37]  You're a Putin puppet.
[00:11:38]  I mean, that is just the same like Hillbot language from 2016.
[00:11:43]  That's their default programming.
[00:11:45]  Like you restored him to default settings.
[00:11:48]  You conditioned Richie Torres, basically.
[00:11:51]  Yeah.
[00:11:51]  Well, what that is, and what I found is that that line of attack, that specific, you're in the pocket of Russia, you're a Kremlin tool, that's like meant to signal to other liberal Democrats, like, this guy's not with us.
[00:12:03]  He's, you know, and that's like, Most toxic thing you can be right now if you're a Democrat, you know, because they have that's how they work.
[00:12:10]  They have their little cliques, they have their little clubs, they have their little, you know, oh no, we're Democrats all the way, we're blue all the way, right?
[00:12:19]  And so there's certain little phrases that they try to label you as so that anybody who's a part of that club knows, okay, this guy's not the guy we should be, you know, associating with.
[00:12:29]  So him calling me a Kremlin tool is meant to signal to other people he's not the real Democrat.
[00:12:35]  That's what that actually is, you know, of course.
[00:12:37]  And Yeah, no, it's fascinating to me because with the Democrats, you see this thing where it's all about Russia.
[00:12:44]  And then with the Republicans, you see this thing where it's all about Israel and China.
[00:12:48]  Like, those are the groups that they either want to go to war for or against.

=== Touchy Politics in the Bronx (04:16) ===

[00:12:53]  That's what they're all obsessed about.
[00:12:55]  And these are foreign countries.
[00:12:56]  This isn't America.
[00:12:57]  That's their top priority.
[00:12:59]  Like, notice how he didn't say, Rich, I almost called you Richie Torres.
[00:13:03]  Forgive me.
[00:13:03]  Lord have mercy.
[00:13:04]  Jose Vega, you're anti American.
[00:13:07]  You don't like America.
[00:13:08]  Notice how it wasn't that.
[00:13:09]  They always have to pivot to another foreign country.
[00:13:12]  Yep.
[00:13:12]  It's crazy.
[00:13:13]  And they know that the average person is not going to be as informed on these issues.
[00:13:17]  Or let alone look into it.
[00:13:19]  Right, exactly.
[00:13:20]  And let me talk about that.
[00:13:21]  We got more of the video.
[00:13:22]  I don't mean to interrupt.
[00:13:23]  It's just so crazy.
[00:13:24]  Yeah, well, just to give a little context about that video before we keep playing it, by the way, that's actually the second time I ran into him that week.
[00:13:32]  Yeah, and that's around Christmas time.
[00:13:36]  I didn't record the first time because we were actually.
[00:13:39]  So he was actually doing like a private gathering.
[00:13:43]  With some people that he selected from the neighborhood a few days before.
[00:13:48]  And they didn't realize I got the invite too from someone else who sent it to me.
[00:13:53]  So I just showed up and, you know, I didn't have, well, I had meta glasses I was supposed to wear, but I didn't realize what the situation was.
[00:14:01]  I thought I'm going to go in, get comfortable, then put them on.
[00:14:05]  But I walk in and I'm like looking around.
[00:14:08]  I turn around.
[00:14:08]  It's like, oh shit, there he is.
[00:14:10]  He's literally right next to me.
[00:14:11]  So I just go right into it.
[00:14:13]  I go, Congressman.
[00:14:15]  And he's like, he just says, what are you doing here?
[00:14:19]  You weren't invited.
[00:14:21]  And I just try to shake his hand.
[00:14:22]  I'm like, oh, Congressman, come on.
[00:14:23]  It's the holidays, you know?
[00:14:24]  Like, what's up, man?
[00:14:25]  So, anyway, like, oh, and like, I start being cheeky.
[00:14:29]  I'm like, so you're sleeping okay at night, or does the weight of a thousand dead children on you lie in your conscience?
[00:14:36]  Like, you know, you got bags under your eyes.
[00:14:37]  Like, I'm just starting to be cheeky with him, but I couldn't record any of it because, you know, I didn't realize like he was just going to be standing there already.
[00:14:45]  And at that point, like, there were like five people that just escorted me out.
[00:14:49]  At this point, when I find out that he's at a diner, because there's people in the Bronx that, you know, like let me know, like, hey, he's, he's, you know, hosting an event here or there, whatever.
[00:15:00]  I just got news that he was at that diner.
[00:15:02]  So I'm like, okay, this is it.
[00:15:04]  This is redemption.
[00:15:05]  Like, now I'm about to get over there and confront him because he hasn't held a town hall, which is what you're supposed to do as an elected official.
[00:15:13]  I think over two years, three years now, actually.
[00:15:15]  One of his constituents.
[00:15:19]  Sounds like.
[00:15:20]  And the last time he held a town hall, I think I confronted him at that one too over Nord Stream and whatnot and like completely embarrassed him there too.
[00:15:29]  But yeah, so that's what this video in the diner is like, you know.
[00:15:33]  Let's go and roll the rest of it.
[00:15:35]  It gets even spicier.
[00:15:36]  Go ahead, Wes.
[00:15:39]  Congress for doing absolutely nothing about it or the fact that he gets funding from AIPAC.
[00:15:48]  Congressman.
[00:15:49]  Congressman, no matter where you go in the Bronx, people hate you.
[00:15:53]  Because they know the truth about you, Congressman.
[00:15:56]  They know what you really are a sellout, an APAC sellout.
[00:16:00]  Okay?
[00:16:00]  All you do is get paid by the Israeli lobby.
[00:16:04]  You are nothing.
[00:16:05]  You're a joke of a Congressman.
[00:16:07]  You have no real principles whatsoever.
[00:16:09]  Why do you use my voice to whitewash war crimes, Richie Torres?
[00:16:11]  Congressman!
[00:16:13]  Why do you use my voice to run cover for war criminals like Bibi Netanyahu?
[00:16:19]  What do you get from Israel to run cover for them?
[00:16:22]  You're a disgrace.
[00:16:23]  Grace to your constituency.
[00:16:24]  You should resign.
[00:16:25]  You should be primary.
[00:16:27]  Take care, Congressman Richie.
[00:16:29]  Don't touch me.
[00:16:29]  You don't need to touch me.
[00:16:30]  Don't put your hands on me.
[00:16:32]  Come on, guys.
[00:16:33]  Let's go.
[00:16:33]  You made your point.
[00:16:35]  Wow.
[00:16:37]  And notice, like, he's a total robot.
[00:16:39]  Like, he's looking forward, just like with a complete, like, android gaze.
[00:16:44]  Like, it's a synthetic human or something.
[00:16:48]  And before we keep going, Jose, I sent you the stream.
[00:16:51]  We want to get your people in here, too, because this is a phenomenal interview.
[00:16:55]  Go ahead and retweet that.
[00:16:56]  Yeah, let's do it.
[00:16:57]  Anybody else who's watching, we want to get the word out because Jose is a great guy.
[00:17:02]  We really, we actually, I genuinely like you.
[00:17:05]  I think you're hilarious too.
[00:17:08]  You're a funny guy.

=== Synthetic Human Robot Gaze (10:31) ===

[00:17:09]  We like having you on.
[00:17:09]  So I look at that and I was like, he, you know, he looks shell shocked.
[00:17:15]  Like, you know how Bongino just, he's got like the wide open eyes.
[00:17:20]  Like, that's kind of how I looked at him.
[00:17:22]  And so, you know, I think what I'm noticing is he's trying to be as polished as possible to like not ruin or spoil his image.
[00:17:31]  Right?
[00:17:32]  Say nothing.
[00:17:33]  That's the key.
[00:17:34]  I know nothing.
[00:17:35]  I say nothing like Sergeant Schultz.
[00:17:37]  Is that from the kind of establishment mentality?
[00:17:42]  Is that what they're taught to do when you're inside?
[00:17:44]  Is that where that's coming from?
[00:17:46]  Or he's just afraid of just saying the wrong thing?
[00:17:50]  Well, I think that's a combination of a lot of things.
[00:17:53]  A mix.
[00:17:54]  Okay.
[00:17:54]  First of all, everything that's about to come out of my mouth is speculation because this is going to get spicy.
[00:18:00]  None of this.
[00:18:01]  Let me put the force field around you 500,000 square foot thick titanium adamantium shield of speculation.
[00:18:08]  Go ahead.
[00:18:09]  Yeah.
[00:18:09]  This is all speculation.
[00:18:11]  Well, first of all, you got to know about Tavistock brainwashing.
[00:18:14]  But anyway, that's.
[00:18:15]  That's a whole other enchilada.
[00:18:17]  No, here's the story with Richie Torres.
[00:18:19]  If you don't know this, Richie Torres is on the record for talking about the fact that he's on antidepressants and he's on like a cocktail of antidepressants.
[00:18:30]  And he's been on a cocktail of antidepressants since he was a teenager.
[00:18:34]  You know, he had some identity problems.
[00:18:36]  He came out as gay in his sophomore year of high school.
[00:18:39]  You know, that can be very tough for you, right?
[00:18:42]  But then he started working for, I think, an assemblyman, you know, in his late teens as a volunteer.
[00:18:48]  Then he goes to NYU and then he has this episode where he's at NYU and he has to become hospitalized for a week because of his depression.
[00:19:00]  It's like, okay, well, hold on.
[00:19:01]  So he's hospitalized and then he comes out of there and he has a cocktail of drugs they put him on.
[00:19:08]  Sorry?
[00:19:11]  No, you're good.
[00:19:11]  Sorry, I'm bad.
[00:19:12]  No, keep going.
[00:19:13]  Okay, yeah.
[00:19:14]  So he comes out and he's on a cocktail of, you know, depression meds.
[00:19:20]  And then he doesn't finish NYU and said he goes back to work for the assemblyman, this time not as a volunteer, but directly in a top position as housing director.
[00:19:31]  So he's immediately put in a position of high power in a councilman's office at like the age of 19 or 20.
[00:19:40]  No formal education, which again, hey, I don't have a degree either, but that is a little odd that you immediately go into as housing director.
[00:19:47]  And then he's put in the city council in 2013.
[00:19:51]  When he's 23 years old and he's elected as the youngest city councilman, yeah, no, it's young, progressive, LGBTQ, or whatever, right?
[00:20:01]  And then in 2015, APAC comes in and they start funding his trips to Israel.
[00:20:08]  And then suddenly he becomes a congressman in 2020.
[00:20:12]  What this is speculation, of course, I don't know this is grooming.
[00:20:18]  Okay, APAC wants to have their claws in elected officials.
[00:20:25]  When they're young and give them a boatload of money, who are always going to be programmed.
[00:20:30]  I think there is some level of brainwashing, some level of like, have you ever seen the movie Get Out, you know, where they, they like, you know, make them subservient and the only way to break the brainwashing is with like a flash photo?
[00:20:44]  I think that that is the problem with Richie Torres and somebody should go and like take a picture with flash photography and break him out because I think he's been, I think through opinion and speculation, you know, there's been some form of programming and brainwashing there.
[00:20:59]  So when he, Is confronted in that way because there's no to him.
[00:21:03]  There's no substance to him.
[00:21:05]  He is literally an empty suit.
[00:21:08]  Like he's not a real person.
[00:21:09]  He's just whatever they want him to be in the way they've controlled him to be this way.
[00:21:15]  He can't actually respond in substance other than just your Kremlin tool, leave me alone.
[00:21:20]  I've got to run away because there's nothing to him.
[00:21:23]  And that's what I think.
[00:21:25]  Well, I would say, you know, like even if you don't go down the rabbit hole of being like, okay, is he AIPAC funded?
[00:21:33]  Is he.
[00:21:35]  Brainwashed in some way.
[00:21:37]  Just the mere fact of being in kind of like these institutions from an early age does shape your outlook on how you behave and your characteristics.
[00:21:47]  That you can follow a clear trail to how a person develops.
[00:21:52]  So, you know, being taught how to be a constituent very early on, how to run, how to campaign, all of those different things, they probably become almost less organic and it becomes more like a science of how to get in rather than just the organic.
[00:22:07]  Parts.
[00:22:08]  You're talking about, like, both you guys are making me think so much right now.
[00:22:11]  You're literally, it's, they're synthesizing politicians, you know, in a lab, like how you would synthesize, like, a molecule or a drug.
[00:22:18]  They synthesize these people, going to your point about them being empty suits and your point to it being like a manufactured system.
[00:22:24]  I think, regardless where the money comes from, we don't need that in politics.
[00:22:29]  Politics needs to be an organic thing where people of all stripes can come in and have their ideas and share them equally.
[00:22:36]  And one thing I'll add to that, Is, you know, it doesn't always have to be a clear cut system to where, like, there's a guy that decides, okay, we select these people, they're going down this path, and this is the way it goes.
[00:22:49]  There's also the case of just the natural progression.
[00:22:53]  Like, for example, people who want to get into politics normally go to particular schools in Washington, D.C. for college, right?
[00:23:02]  Because it's like the closest you can get to working your way around so that you can climb up, and there's a There's just a natural pathway of what they say.
[00:23:15]  Okay.
[00:23:15]  If you want to go to point A to point B, this is kind of how you need to do.
[00:23:20]  And so those things will come up naturally just by the mere fact of like, I'm sure at one point he was like, I have a vision that I want to be in some position of power.
[00:23:30]  But the problem with that is, you know, everybody around you has also consumed the exact same mindset almost to get there as well.
[00:23:41]  And then, like, that's why it's since.
[00:23:44]  Is they literally like it's not a real job, right?
[00:23:46]  Like, I was in Suleiman's space or another space, I forget where it was.
[00:23:50]  And they had a guy who claimed that like he was in the administration in some like mid level bureaucratic position where he was actually like he had poll and he could make decisions.
[00:23:58]  And you know, we're part of the team, you know, we always hear about the team that takes care of it, especially on the Republican side, part of the team.
[00:24:05]  And he's, well, you know, we're working hard, I'm working hard with JD on that, and all this ridiculous garbage.
[00:24:12]  And when I get the mic, I say, hey, man, like, you realize you work at a clown college, right?
[00:24:16]  Like, you're a dog catcher, a carny.
[00:24:19]  Actually, those people are far more noble and qualified than you.
[00:24:22]  It's a complete empty suit job.
[00:24:25]  Like, we don't have real people in the government, whether they're appointed or they're elected.
[00:24:30]  And that's because of the system that we're talking about here today.
[00:24:33]  Yeah, that's exactly right.
[00:24:34]  No, I mean, and that's the point.
[00:24:36]  Yesterday, I got to speak at a high school down in Manhattan, actually, because some in, and I won't say exactly why, but basically, they, you know, Jack Schloschberg, this, like, there's something like related to a Kennedy.
[00:24:49]  He's running for Congress in the district in New York 12, a different district, and he stiffed a group of high school kids.
[00:24:56]  They asked me to step in.
[00:24:58]  One of the questions they had asked me was, What are some ways in which the Democratic Party is failing people now?
[00:25:04]  I said, No, no, don't think about this Democrat, Republican.
[00:25:08]  The whole Congress is failing people right now.
[00:25:12]  It doesn't matter whether they're Republican or Democrat, they are all manufactured empty suits, every single one of them.
[00:25:18]  I told them that my solution is to replace the entire Congress right now with people who are between the ages of 25 and 35.
[00:25:24]  I really mean that, you know, because there is no, like you said, there is no real person in government right now that actually cares.
[00:25:33]  You don't even know if the politician that you're talking to is the person who's actually going to think about what you're saying, or you have to figure out who's donating to them and try to talk to them instead.
[00:25:47]  You know, maybe that's what we should do.
[00:25:49]  We should call these people's donors and say, hey, can you actually advocate for something else?
[00:25:54]  That might be funny to do.
[00:25:56]  But I think that people should think about it in the way you just laid it out.
[00:26:00]  People are, the congressmen are manufactured Dem, Republican, it's all the same thing.
[00:26:07]  And there are giant theaters that happen in the Congress where they have this rotating villain.
[00:26:13]  This War Powers Resolution, think about it, right?
[00:26:16]  Democrats say they want to pass a War Powers Resolution.
[00:26:20]  Well, before they all broke at the end of March, there was an opportunity to pass a War Powers Resolution.
[00:26:27]  You know, one of the ranking Democrats on the Foreign Affairs Committee, Gregory Meeks, was saying, I'm going to bring a war powers resolution.
[00:26:34]  I'm going to bring a war powers resolution.
[00:26:36]  Well, he actually had the vote.
[00:26:38]  Four Republicans were going to vote with the Democrats.
[00:26:42]  And at the point that they had the vote, he says, I'm not going to bring it.
[00:26:45]  We're not going to get the votes.
[00:26:47]  So what did they do?
[00:26:47]  They all went on vacation.
[00:26:49]  30 congressmen went to Scotland.
[00:26:51]  Coy Booker was seen in Hollywood, not in his own district in New Jersey.
[00:26:55]  He was in Hollywood.
[00:26:57]  Well, you know, these people aren't real people.
[00:26:59]  They want the war to continue.
[00:27:01]  I mean, look at the other side of the aisle.
[00:27:03]  You got Lindsey Graham with the bubble wand at Disney World.
[00:27:07]  Isn't that bizarre?
[00:27:08]  Right.
[00:27:10]  Yeah.
[00:27:10]  And it's just very interesting to see all this play out.
[00:27:14]  And one thing I'm curious, Jose, is like now that you've kind of been in the game, you're running the race, what are some of the dirty stuff that you're seeing in politics?
[00:27:26]  Because now you're experiencing a whole different realm that Rex and I don't get to see, the average person doesn't get to see.
[00:27:35]  Because we're just consumers.
[00:27:36]  We're just watching.
[00:27:37]  But now you're in meetings, you're in conversations.
[00:27:39]  Talk about the dirty side of politics.

=== Congressmen Vacation Scandal (10:26) ===

[00:27:41]  You are going to, I have a story for you.
[00:27:44]  I was saving this for another podcast, but I can talk about it anyway.
[00:27:48]  We'll take breaking news.
[00:27:49]  Thank you so much.
[00:27:51]  It's not breaking news.
[00:27:54]  It's just like I've seen the other side of how people get bought and owned.
[00:28:01]  I was in a conversation with some big political donor, you know.
[00:28:07]  And I'm not going to say names.
[00:28:09]  I'm not going to say what groups they represent or who this was.
[00:28:13]  And just to really add some ambiguity, I've had multiple conversations like this.
[00:28:18]  You know, because the kind of ego that this person has, he would try to say, he would maybe come out and be like, ah, that was me, he said.
[00:28:24]  So, point is, I met with somebody who has an interest in the race.
[00:28:30]  And, you know, they were supposed to feel me out and ask, you know, there was a meeting arranged and, you know, and, uh, At one point in the conversation, you know, this person is asking me about my background and what I do.
[00:28:42]  And, you know, he's like, How old are you?
[00:28:44]  I go, I'm 27.
[00:28:45]  He's like, Wow, 27.
[00:28:46]  Wow, that is so amazing.
[00:28:49]  You know, even my daughter watches your videos where you confront people.
[00:28:52]  That is amazing, Jose, 27 years old.
[00:28:54]  Well, and you're running in the Dem primary.
[00:28:57]  Let me, let me, there's two scenarios.
[00:29:00]  One scenario, I help you in your race.
[00:29:03]  You know, we put down serious money, we buy ads, you go on.
[00:29:08]  You know, you win the race, you go on to change the world.
[00:29:11]  Great.
[00:29:12]  Thank God.
[00:29:13]  Let's hope for that, right?
[00:29:15]  Let me paint you the second scenario, the more realistic one.
[00:29:18]  You stay in the race, Michael Blake stays in the race, right?
[00:29:23]  And, you know, you're going to split the vote.
[00:29:28]  That's just the truth.
[00:29:29]  You know, you're going to split the vote, you know, and Richie Torres is going to continue to be the congressman, and no one's going to be happy with that outcome, right?
[00:29:38]  Let's be straightforward here, Jose.
[00:29:40]  You're 27.
[00:29:41]  A lot of eyes on you now.
[00:29:43]  I see that.
[00:29:44]  The world sees that.
[00:29:46]  But if you follow through with this, and Richie Torres still wins, Who's to say your candle won't dim?
[00:29:53]  Wow.
[00:29:53]  Who's to say people are going to care about you after this race is over?
[00:29:57]  See, if I was managing your campaign, no offense to your campaign manager, who is right next to me, by the way, listen, Jose, I could take your career so much higher.
[00:30:07]  And let me paint a picture Michael Blake in front of you, and you right behind him, advising him, telling him what the young people want to hear.
[00:30:17]  How about that, Jose?
[00:30:19]  And you just, you know, And then two years from now, four years from now, even, maybe we do something else.
[00:30:25]  Maybe we try again.
[00:30:26]  Maybe Michael Blake wants to run for something higher and you can take his seat.
[00:30:29]  How about that?
[00:30:31]  Wow.
[00:30:31]  The ascent line.
[00:30:33]  That's crazy.
[00:30:34]  When you talk about manufactured, that is as manufactured as you could get.
[00:30:40]  Dude, that is literally carpetbagger, plantation owner.
[00:30:44]  Well, we're going to make a deal for ourselves now.
[00:30:47]  And you're going to be a big politician.
[00:30:49]  You're going to be fine, but you're going to have to take a little break.
[00:30:51]  You can advise.
[00:30:52]  You can.
[00:30:53]  You can have influence, but you need to stay in the ranks.
[00:30:56]  You can be smart, but you can't be too smart.
[00:30:58]  Exactly.
[00:30:59]  This is how we're going to do it.
[00:31:00]  Yeah.
[00:31:01]  It is disgusting because I think this was when Trump put out that truth social post about how he's going to end a civilization tonight.
[00:31:11]  And I had made the point to this person I said, look, you know, I want to stop nuclear war, I want to stop destructions of civilization.
[00:31:24]  I want to stop the bloodshed now.
[00:31:26]  And the person goes, Well, you can do that two years from now.
[00:31:28]  You could do that four years from now, you know?
[00:31:30]  And I'm like, Are you serious?
[00:31:33]  Are you completely out of your mind?
[00:31:36]  And like, that's why I was proud at that moment for my campaign manager to be there because she just went off on the dude, was like, No, we stand for principle.
[00:31:45]  We stand for principle.
[00:31:46]  We don't do things because they're politically convenient.
[00:31:50]  We don't do things, okay, because of what's a better path this way, that.
[00:31:54]  We do things on principle and we stand on truth, and the right time to stand on principles all the time.
[00:32:00]  And this guy just goes, Well, look, you know, there are ways in which you can do things and not compromise who you are, you know?
[00:32:09]  There are ways you can do things, Jose, and you're not going to have to compromise who you are.
[00:32:14]  You're just going to have to do what we tell you to do.
[00:32:17]  Like, it's mafioso.
[00:32:19]  Yes.
[00:32:20]  Yes, it is 100%.
[00:32:22]  And, like, I, you know, and I know other people that have taken that deal.
[00:32:28]  Basically, you know, and like you start identifying them so easily now when they come across your way and they try to, you know, slip the same offer in a different way, or they just try to, well, you know, let me just ask the question, you know, don't you want Richie Torres to be out of office, right?
[00:32:46]  And, you know, Michael Blake is a little more experienced than you, right?
[00:32:53]  And wouldn't it be ultimately a good thing, right?
[00:32:56]  And I go, yeah, Michael Blake's an airhead.
[00:32:57]  He's over here defending the Democratic Party.
[00:32:59]  He's calling Richie Torres.
[00:33:02]  A Republican as an attack.
[00:33:04]  And I'm here saying, really?
[00:33:06]  Nancy Pelosi is endorsing Richie Torres.
[00:33:09]  Hakeem Jeffries is endorsing Richie Torres.
[00:33:12]  And I'm supposed to believe you when you say, oh, he's a Republican, even though the entire Democrat senior leadership is saying, no, he's more of a Democrat than you are, Mr. Blake.
[00:33:24]  So what are you talking about?
[00:33:26]  He's there to defend the system.
[00:33:28]  Why would I ever back someone like that who's just completely, you know, thinking on this red, blue, you know, my team is better than your team?
[00:33:38]  It's BS.
[00:33:39]  People are tired of it, and we're there to disrupt the system.
[00:33:44]  You're blowing my mind because what this makes me understand is there's levels to this, right?
[00:33:51]  Like what you just described is big in itself, but then you can extrapolate that at the highest levels and understand that there are conversations that happen just like that that mirror the exact same scenario.
[00:34:04]  And you're right.
[00:34:05]  Some guy is going to take that deal because he's going to make the conclusion in his head.
[00:34:12]  The human survival mode in him is going to kick in and be like, well, I can't really change the world.
[00:34:19]  I might as well take this deal because I'll end up being in a better position and the selfishness starts to come out.
[00:34:25]  And I think that's what's been causing the problem people are presented with the blue or the red pill and they take the blue one just because it's so much easier and there's less sacrifice that has to come with that.
[00:34:38]  I just thought of another analogy off of that.
[00:34:40]  They want us to take a blue pill or a red pill.
[00:34:42]  How about no pill at all?
[00:34:44]  How about we don't get drugged?
[00:34:46]  Wouldn't that be better?
[00:34:47]  Like, seriously, and what you've just described, Jose, and also you, Tim.
[00:34:52]  Is the literal process of what the team is and what it means to join the team.
[00:34:57]  That's terrifying, dude.
[00:34:58]  Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
[00:35:01]  Yeah, it absolutely is crazy.
[00:35:02]  And, like, it, you know, you realize in order to make it in the political world today, like in the mainstream way, if you want to be part of either major party, if you ever do want to be an elected official, you are supposed to bend.
[00:35:15]  You are supposed to bend over.
[00:35:16]  You are supposed to take it in some way or another.
[00:35:20]  And, you know, then if you do make it in there, they have some compromising material on you and they can.
[00:35:25]  Pull you out anytime you want.
[00:35:27]  Like Eric Swalwell is a great example.
[00:35:29]  I'm sure you guys heard about this guy, Eric Swalwell.
[00:35:33]  You guys heard about this, right?
[00:35:34]  The guy with the scandals because he was sleeping with his.
[00:35:36]  He's running for.
[00:35:39]  Break it down to people that probably won't understand what this is about.
[00:35:43]  Yeah.
[00:35:43]  Oh, yeah.
[00:35:44]  Right.
[00:35:44]  This is like kind of Democrat politics, but also congressional politics.
[00:35:47]  There's this congressman named Eric Swalwell.
[00:35:51]  He was running for governor of California right now.
[00:35:54]  There's like a big.
[00:35:55]  Oh, hold on.
[00:35:56]  Sorry about that.
[00:35:58]  He was.
[00:35:58]  You can still hear me, right?
[00:35:59]  You can still see me?
[00:35:59]  You're good.
[00:36:00]  You're good.
[00:36:01]  So he was running for governor of California, but basically what happened was, and he was leading, he was like a leading Democrat in the race, too.
[00:36:13]  Like he looked like he could have taken it home.
[00:36:17]  Then all of a sudden, just some story break that he was sleeping with his interns, you know, six years ago, and four years ago, and two years ago, right?
[00:36:27]  And, you know, all the whole Congress is acting like they're, You know, oh my God, I can't believe this sex pest, even though he was like a pretty high ranking Democrat congressman.
[00:36:39]  But the thing is, this was known.
[00:36:42]  He was allowed to go into the Congress because this was known.
[00:36:45]  And it's the same reason he was taken out.
[00:36:48]  See, you're allowed to go into the club as long as you've got, you know, they've got something on you and they can control you.
[00:36:54]  My theory as to why they did this was because Eric Swalwell wasn't showing up to Congress for months, like, he just never voted.
[00:37:02]  But he had made a commitment to come into the Congress to vote for the War Powers Resolution, you know, that Meeks was supposed to introduce that he ultimately didn't introduce.
[00:37:13]  And so that I think this was a sort of like, oh, really?
[00:37:16]  You're going to try and mess this up now?
[00:37:18]  You're out of Congress.
[00:37:19]  That's my theory.
[00:37:20]  I don't know.
[00:37:21]  But my point is that almost all of those congressmen probably have something that they can just instantly yank them out of.
[00:37:28]  And I think that you, like Thomas Massey, who don't have something like that, have to be taken out of the way of spending millions and millions of dollars.
[00:37:36]  Yeah, that's an excellent point.
[00:37:39]  And that story makes me think of like Eric Mayor Adams when, you know, suddenly the scandal comes out against him in like the very last leg of whatever he had left.
[00:37:51]  And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
[00:37:52]  He's been here for four years and this story's just coming out.
[00:37:56]  But at the time, the timing wasn't matching because he was doing something that people weren't liking.
[00:38:01]  Dude.
[00:38:02]  And they did it to smash him on the head.
[00:38:05]  Dude, why are you dissing an Albanian citizen?

=== Disrupting The Political System (14:24) ===

[00:38:08]  You know about this?
[00:38:09]  You know about this, Jose?
[00:38:11]  Eric Adams went over to Albania and got Albanian censorship.
[00:38:15]  So there's all kinds of foreign influence allegedly.
[00:38:19]  Like it's wild.
[00:38:20]  Right.
[00:38:21]  It is wild.
[00:38:22]  And so, you know, when you think about these systems and you think about everything that's happening here, Jose, how does something like this change?
[00:38:34]  Because I'm trying to understand do people just genuinely not care about doing the right thing?
[00:38:41]  Is the system too big that, that, Everybody's just kind of understood, okay, it's just better to conform to it.
[00:38:47]  Like, or is there some people that are just have such bad intentions and so much power that there's nothing you can do and you just get in line?
[00:38:55]  What's happening there?
[00:38:56]  What, why is all, why are all these situations allowed to exist?
[00:39:00]  I never believe that the big bad is too big and bad.
[00:39:04]  You know, there's often a saying that, you know, evil men get away with their evil deeds because, you know, good men don't act against it or something, right?
[00:39:16]  Well, I think evil deeds happen because good people don't do anything, period.
[00:39:20]  You know, there's different ways to sort of go at this, but my number one thing is that people should never give up hope and that you have to constantly fight against this.
[00:39:30]  And actually, the tides are shifting back in the favor of the people.
[00:39:34]  Things are just getting so bad nowadays that even the war in Iran is having a real effect on people's everyday lives.
[00:39:40]  Just look at the gas prices, look at the oil prices that are going up, the commodities that are about to become more expensive.
[00:39:47]  I think.
[00:39:47]  The truth is that people have a lot more power than they realize.
[00:39:51]  And it's important that we remind people that, especially through things like just reading the Declaration of Independence.
[00:39:58]  You know, that's something that I try to do with people who come to my office, our high school interns.
[00:40:03]  And, you know, we say, When's the last time you read it?
[00:40:06]  A lot of people never read it.
[00:40:07]  A lot of people said, Oh, maybe once in school.
[00:40:09]  And when they read it, it's like, Yeah, like that's what our country was founded on.
[00:40:13]  You read the list of grievances, most of those still apply today.
[00:40:17]  And I was one funny instance where a volunteer said, Man, You know, if more people read this, there'd be a revolution in the street.
[00:40:25]  It's like, yeah, that's right.
[00:40:26]  It's important that people read the documents that actually founded this country and realize that we are so far from that right now, but that is who we are.
[00:40:36]  And that's the mission we're taking out into the streets when we're out organizing, when we're out talking to people.
[00:40:41]  You know, I don't know what's going to happen with this vote, but you know what?
[00:40:44]  We're going to try to get everybody to read the Declaration of Independence.
[00:40:48]  We're going to try to raise the consciousness of people so that they know what it means to be an American citizen, because there is a dignity and an authority.
[00:40:56]  That comes with being a citizen.
[00:40:57]  And that is more important than any elected official.
[00:41:01]  And that's what we have to do.
[00:41:03]  We have to give people a hope that somebody is coming to disrupt the system.
[00:41:09]  And that's what we're doing with this campaign.
[00:41:11]  And I see it also happening around the country, like Brian McGinnis, that Marine who had his arm broken because he said he didn't want to die for Israel.
[00:41:19]  He's running for the Senate.
[00:41:21]  You know, these are people that are, you know, making a revolution.
[00:41:27]  They're disrupting the system.
[00:41:29]  And we're giving people permission to do that.
[00:41:32]  So, no, the big bad is not too big and bad.
[00:41:34]  I would say.
[00:41:36]  The one of the well, one of the trailblazers that I'm seeing that's doing a very good job with this is Thomas Massey.
[00:41:45]  I mean, now you could say, Do you think he's trying to grift, whether he's trying to do whatever?
[00:41:51]  It's hard to tell, but for me, when I see a level of authenticity there too, well, you know, like he's making posts and you just see millions of people interacting because you can see the consensus, you know, you know where the people are at.
[00:42:07]  And so, not enough people are doing that, but it's just like.
[00:42:10]  Thomas Massey's a real problem for these guys.
[00:42:12]  Well, this is something bizarre to me because, like, tapping into what you're saying here, I talked to Keaton about this when I guest hosted Due Dissidence.
[00:42:19]  The opportunistic thing and the moral thing to do overlap.
[00:42:24]  Like, it would be advantageous to you to advocate for the people and to give something back to them for a change and to end the wars and in the domestic abuse and in the inflation.
[00:42:34]  Yeah.
[00:42:34]  That's what's so weird why they don't do it.
[00:42:37]  It would almost be like a symbiotic relationship to where you do something right by the people.
[00:42:43]  They appreciate that they reelect you because you're doing a good job.
[00:42:47]  But I think maybe the good thing isn't always the one that gives the best ROI to your net worth, is where those things come into play.
[00:42:56]  Yeah, they start not liking that because they like to get rich in Congress.
[00:42:59]  They like to make money in the Senate too.
[00:43:01]  Like, if you see anything, you're like, why is that legal?
[00:43:03]  Some congressman or senator somewhere is making money off of it.
[00:43:06]  What do you think?
[00:43:07]  Well, I think that, I mean, in the mind of the elected official, they probably think, That look like Thomas Massey, for example, had a great exchange about this on X. You know, he had dropped the news that Apex spent $800,000 in his race and that Miriam Adelson donated a million dollars.
[00:43:28]  And somebody commented, But Thomas, why are you worried?
[00:43:31]  You know, you've stuck to your principles, you tell the truth.
[00:43:34]  You know, people should know at this point who you are and what you stand for.
[00:43:39]  And his response was, Yes.
[00:43:40]  However, the problem is that they're poisoning the well so much and outspending me that some people will just believe these.
[00:43:47]  These lies, right?
[00:43:48]  And I think that, you know, Thomas Massey right now is a good example of somebody who's coming up against that machine full force.
[00:43:55]  And I think people need to start preparing just in case things don't go his way.
[00:44:00]  I don't think people should get comfortable, frankly.
[00:44:02]  You know, I know a lot of people.
[00:44:05]  Hold on.
[00:44:05]  Hold on a minute.
[00:44:06]  You're saying that you think that there's actually, you know, a sizable chance that Ed Galleron's going to be able to blow him out of the water with the APAC money and the Trump backing?
[00:44:15]  I don't know if it's a sizable chance.
[00:44:17]  But he's within single digit lead now.
[00:44:20]  That's the last poll I saw.
[00:44:21]  But I'm just saying people, and that's not that I want that to happen.
[00:44:24]  This is the last thing I want to happen.
[00:44:26]  I'm just saying that, like, people shouldn't get comfortable, you know.
[00:44:30]  And I think the part of the problem is that because you have such an uneducated population, a lot of people don't have a good education anymore.
[00:44:38]  Go ahead.
[00:44:39]  Oh, really quick, just tapping into what you're saying here.
[00:44:42]  Over half of Americans can't read at a sixth grade level.
[00:44:45]  So, see, that's true.
[00:44:49]  And I think the Iranians picked up on that because when the president of Iran released that five page statement, all the memes, all the comments were like, oh, listen, man, people can't read this.
[00:44:59]  And this is like an eighth grade.
[00:45:01]  So, what did they do?
[00:45:02]  They just started putting out Lego Iran videos, right?
[00:45:04]  And like the AI slop, and that's been like super effective, right?
[00:45:09]  But, you know, no, it's like the powers that be have intentionally kept people so uneducated, have kept them ignorant, have ruined our education standards, have made people forget what it means to be an American citizen.
[00:45:23]  So, an ad, you know, that just says Thomas Massey votes like a liberal Democrat, he votes with Ilhan Omar and AOC.
[00:45:31]  Then you get people's like, well, I don't want that.
[00:45:33]  I didn't know all that.
[00:45:34]  Oh, golly gee.
[00:45:36]  That is enough for people to be like, well, I guess.
[00:45:40]  And that's what Thomas Massey is coming up against.
[00:45:43]  He's coming up against decades of just conditioning and brainwashing.
[00:45:49]  And that's why I'm saying people should not get comfortable.
[00:45:53]  Now, that's why Massey's constantly asking for donations, as he should be.
[00:45:57]  That's why he's constantly telling people this is what he's up against, because that's what he's supposed to do.
[00:46:03]  And that's also why Ed Gallerine isn't showing up at those debates.
[00:46:06]  It's the same reason Richie Torres didn't show up at my debate because there's nothing there.
[00:46:10]  And if that gets exposed, it falls apart.
[00:46:13]  The Biden strategy, hide in the bunker.
[00:46:16]  Yeah.
[00:46:16]  Yeah.
[00:46:17]  Maybe I should start saying that about Richie Torres because he's not making any public appearances or any debates or wants to be confronted by me.
[00:46:24]  He's just hiding in the basement until, you know, the time is to go vote.
[00:46:29]  Yeah.
[00:46:31]  So, how are you feeling about?
[00:46:33]  Saturday.
[00:46:34]  You ready?
[00:46:34]  Like, this is a very nice situation.
[00:46:39]  Yeah.
[00:46:39]  Let's, well, Wes, go ahead and see if you can find the website for the America First United and let's get that pulled up and ready.
[00:46:50]  But Jose is going to be one of the marquee guys on there as well as a ton of other candidates.
[00:46:57]  Rex and I are there kind of just supporting cast because we're just trying to.
[00:47:01]  I thought we were speaking.
[00:47:02]  We are.
[00:47:03]  But the main light is.
[00:47:05]  The candidates themselves.
[00:47:06]  Come on.
[00:47:07]  We're not the ones that are not important.
[00:47:09]  Okay.
[00:47:09]  He must be.
[00:47:10]  No, it's supposed to be us.
[00:47:12]  No, we are there to support you guys because this is the whole point of this.
[00:47:18]  How are you feeling about this weekend?
[00:47:21]  I think it's beautiful because it transcends everything that we're talking about.
[00:47:26]  Democrat, Republican means nothing when you have a hostile and captured Congress.
[00:47:33]  And the fact that there's an event that's saying, you know what, let's just try to find the rational people that want to go beyond.
[00:47:39]  Republican, Democrat, because that is a game.
[00:47:42]  It's like putting ants in a box and then you shake it up and you get them to fight each other.
[00:47:48]  That's what that is, Democrat, Republican.
[00:47:50]  The whole Congress has got to go.
[00:47:52]  The entire government has to be replaced.
[00:47:54]  And this event, I think, is tapping into that national tension that exists where people don't want to vote Republican or Democrat anymore because they're so fed up.
[00:48:04]  And we have to come together to figure out what is an independent way forward.
[00:48:09]  And that does look like some people running in the Democratic primary, some people running in the Republican primary, but never playing in to this whole my team is better than that person's team, but an understanding that everybody wants the same thing.
[00:48:23]  We all just want a better future for our kids.
[00:48:25]  That doesn't look, you know, that doesn't require you to be a Dem or a Republican.
[00:48:30]  That requires you to have policy, ideas, a conscience, you know, and where you actually serve the interests of your constituents, not of your donors.
[00:48:41]  Or a foreign country.
[00:48:42]  I mean, that's the big one right there is like, why haven't we prioritized America?
[00:48:49]  And Americans vote based off of domestic policy, and they're always promised these grand things, whether it's from the left or from the right.
[00:48:56]  And really, the only time they come together to agree on anything is either defense spending or in tax cuts for the ultra, ultra, ultra rich.
[00:49:04]  I mean, cutting the corporate tax rate, I think that was like 800 billion.
[00:49:08]  Oh, you're kind of right.
[00:49:09]  I didn't realize when we went to war with Ukraine.
[00:49:12]  I mean, we didn't go, I'm sorry.
[00:49:14]  When Ukraine and Russia got into the conflict, it was like a unanimous spending bill.
[00:49:19]  Yeah.
[00:49:20]  Of course.
[00:49:21]  They were like, go ahead, spend the money.
[00:49:24]  We got all the Ukrainian flags.
[00:49:27]  Remember that the Ukrainian pins.
[00:49:29]  I stand with Ukraine, Slavo Kranja.
[00:49:31]  Don't quote that, don't clip that.
[00:49:33]  Look at the common sense stuff.
[00:49:34]  It's like, should we have, you know, maybe like a fund for people to have like childcare where we can contribute like a good amount of money towards that?
[00:49:43]  No, not my White House, not my Congress.
[00:49:47]  And what I've heard from people, I've had some of these conversations with people that I know, right?
[00:49:51]  That I would consider to be very politically informed.
[00:49:53]  And the thing is, like, we don't want to give a handout to anybody.
[00:49:57]  Everybody's got to work for theirs because we got to work for ours.
[00:49:59]  I don't want to give anything to anybody.
[00:50:02]  The tax money is all fake.
[00:50:04]  It's all deficit spending.
[00:50:06]  They make the money up out of thin air.
[00:50:08]  It's not real.
[00:50:09]  Like, okay, it makes America worse if we descend into hyperinflation.
[00:50:14]  What if we just spent the same amount of money we spent on the wars, 10 trillion here at home domestically?
[00:50:19]  Even if everyone, I get this all the time, even if it's all Wally people, I think that would be a much better world than a burned out crater, World War III, which is what these people want to produce.
[00:50:28]  That's what I see.
[00:50:29]  That's what gets me angry, is like, these things are so simple, they're so cheap.
[00:50:35]  It's cheap to help people.
[00:50:36]  It's cheap to give them food.
[00:50:38]  It's cheap to take care of them.
[00:50:39]  When you look at a $10 trillion expense bill, it's crazy.
[00:50:45]  And it's more productive and it actually brings money back into the economy.
[00:50:52]  You have a better economy if people are healthy, if people aren't worried about paying health bills, if people can actually afford to live and have good standards of living.
[00:51:00]  Who knew that that would actually help contribute to a better economy?
[00:51:04]  Yeah.
[00:51:05]  Being racist, right?
[00:51:07]  I got to donate to APAC money.
[00:51:08]  How dare you?
[00:51:09]  How dare you?
[00:51:10]  Yeah, how dare you?
[00:51:10]  No, you're right.
[00:51:11]  We need dead Palestinian children.
[00:51:13]  What am I talking about?
[00:51:14]  That's going to help the economy.
[00:51:15]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:51:16]  I mean, hey, donate to Richie Torres.
[00:51:18]  You might just add one drop to the infinite ocean of APAC money.
[00:51:22]  I mean, that's another thing.
[00:51:23]  Because you look at what happened, and I'm not sure what you think about this.
[00:51:27]  I'm not going to assume your take, but the SPLC funding right wing extremism, or at least that's what the grand jury returned an indictment on.
[00:51:36]  I mean, they manufacture these events.
[00:51:38]  It's like a firefighter setting fires so they can put them out.
[00:51:42]  I think we see this a lot.
[00:51:43]  I think they prey on people that are just like you say, kind of just, you know, not exactly tapped into the political world.
[00:51:48]  They come to them and they say, give us donations so that you can help elect a good guy for a good cause.
[00:51:54]  And then you got a little old lady giving away a part of her pension to something that's evil and she just doesn't know about it.
[00:52:00]  You know?
[00:52:00]  Zero clue.
[00:52:01]  I think that's wrong.
[00:52:02]  I think those people should have the right to sue, quite frankly.
[00:52:06]  No take on the SPLC.
[00:52:08]  I know the story broke this week.
[00:52:09]  I was too busy reading the Kash Patel likes to drink a lot.
[00:52:13]  No problem.
[00:52:14]  That's my personal opinion.
[00:52:15]  Yeah.
[00:52:16]  You might be right.
[00:52:17]  I just haven't looked into it.
[00:52:18]  So I don't want to comment on it.
[00:52:20]  I've said a lot of stuff tonight that could be totally fine.
[00:52:24]  It is a very weird situation how that happened.
[00:52:27]  We can go into it another time.
[00:52:28]  Let's throw the thing up.
[00:52:29]  But I want to throw up the America first.

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[00:52:32]  What's happening?
[00:52:33]  We got five days.
[00:52:34]  You can see that counter.
[00:52:36]  You can scroll down.
[00:52:38]  So, this is going to be an event that happens in Columbus, Ohio.
[00:52:41]  And as you can see, you can go down to the section that has like the speakers.
[00:52:48]  And let's just go ahead and view all speakers and we can kind of show a little bit.
[00:52:52]  So, this is being run primarily by Amy Dangerfield.
[00:52:56]  I think, was it Amy that kind of spearheaded this thing and kicked it all off?
[00:53:01]  Like, I'm pretty sure it was.
[00:53:03]  So, props to her.
[00:53:05]  And then a Casey Putch, we've had him.
[00:53:08]  You know, Jake Shields is going to be there.
[00:53:10]  A lot of guys, you can keep scrolling down.
[00:53:12]  It's basically a combination of like political commentators, people who are in media, and then the actual candidates themselves, both on the right and left.
[00:53:23]  People that we've interviewed, people that we haven't interviewed, but are running these grassroots campaigns to change America.
[00:53:30]  There's somebody doing a Daft Punk thing.
[00:53:32]  That's kind of cool.
[00:53:33]  I didn't know that.
[00:53:34]  There's Jose.
[00:53:36]  Yeah.
[00:53:37]  And so this thing is going to be live streamed.
[00:53:39]  We'll try to figure out details.
[00:53:42]  Unfortunately, I know people have been asking, hey, is there a way that I can attend?
[00:53:48]  I told them.
[00:53:48]  Got to get a better photo.
[00:53:49]  Good Lord.
[00:53:49]  Good Lord.
[00:53:51]  All right.
[00:53:51]  We got to fix this.
[00:53:52]  I'm looking real chopped.
[00:53:54]  That's real bad.
[00:53:56]  Oh, Lord have mercy.
[00:53:57]  Okay.
[00:53:58]  Well, I think they just took the one off your profile.
[00:53:59]  I know, I know, I know.
[00:54:00]  Long story short, you can't really attend the event.
[00:54:05]  It's limited to 100 people for security purposes, but you can watch it live with everybody else.
[00:54:10]  It's going to be live streamed all day.
[00:54:12]  You're going to see it across several platforms.
[00:54:15]  I think they're giving us like a streaming key so that we can broadcast it as well.
[00:54:19]  Let's go.
[00:54:19]  So we'll try to sort all of that out, but it won't be very hard to find the live stream and what's going on.
[00:54:25]  It'll be everywhere.
[00:54:26]  So we're also going to have the opportunity.
[00:54:28]  They said there's going to be studios or Podcast there where you can do like little recordings on the side with people.
[00:54:36]  You know, I'm looking forward to meeting you in person.
[00:54:38]  We're going to be like, we're going to be like snatching people.
[00:54:41]  Yeah.
[00:54:41]  You're like, you got to film a show.
[00:54:43]  So it'll be fun.
[00:54:45]  Anything else you want to say in closing?
[00:54:47]  Let's also, where can people support you, man?
[00:54:49]  Because this is an amazing campaign that you've been running.
[00:54:52]  Yeah.
[00:54:52]  And Wes, maybe we can get it up when he says the URL.
[00:54:54]  So, yeah.
[00:54:56]  Well, you know, first of all, people can find me.
[00:54:58]  I finally changed all my socials to a better username.
[00:55:02]  Which is just Vote Vega.
[00:55:04]  So you could do at Vote Vega 26 on X or just at Vote Vega on Instagram.
[00:55:10]  Those are the two main ones that I really use.
[00:55:12]  You know, Instagram for the normies, X for the juds.
[00:55:17]  This is the only show I would ever come on here and like speak in this vernacular.
[00:55:23]  This is real.
[00:55:24]  This is authentic.
[00:55:25]  This is why people love you.
[00:55:27]  And yeah, and then that's my X.
[00:55:30]  And then my website is also in that little bio right there votevega.nyc.
[00:55:36]  Where people can help donate and contribute to our campaign.
[00:55:40]  They can volunteer.
[00:55:41]  They can be a part of our Saturday signature drives to get my name on the ballot.
[00:55:45]  That's my website there.
[00:55:48]  But yeah, please, people should consider donating to the campaign.
[00:55:52]  Every dollar is honestly worth $1,000 of APAC money because we make better use of it than Richie Torres ever could.
[00:56:00]  And legally, the most that anybody can donate is $3,500.
[00:56:05]  So if you have $3,500, just.
[00:56:07]  Sitting around, lying around, you know, feel free to toss it our way.
[00:56:11]  We need it.
[00:56:11]  But whatever you can contribute, though, helps.
[00:56:15]  We'll fall on Richie Torres' metaphysical career like an avalanche.
[00:56:18]  So, like anybody that wants to contribute, I think the place to go, obviously, is your socials are all Vote Vega.
[00:56:24]  And we just displayed the website.
[00:56:26]  Thank you so much.
[00:56:27]  We look forward to seeing you in person, man.
[00:56:29]  Absolutely.
[00:56:30]  Thank you guys so much for having me on, man.
[00:56:33]  We'll do this again, okay?
[00:56:35]  Great.
[00:56:36]  All right.
[00:56:36]  Take care, man.
[00:56:37]  Thank you.
[00:56:39]  And another gray area W, another epic victory.
[00:56:42]  Big W's in the chat.
[00:56:44]  Another great victory.
[00:56:45]  Honestly, that exclusive that he gave us about what was going on.
[00:56:48]  Yeah.
[00:56:49]  Super good anecdotal story.
[00:56:51]  I was in it.
[00:56:52]  I was like, what?
[00:56:54]  I was locked in.
[00:56:55]  Yeah.
[00:56:56]  I mean, these are the realities.
[00:56:57]  And this is why it's so cool to talk to people like this and people running in like local and statewide elections.
[00:57:02]  It's really interesting to see what they have to say.
[00:57:04]  I will say, someone in the chat, and this is just me personally having to clarify something because maybe you're a new viewer, maybe you're coming across me for the first time.
[00:57:12]  And if you enjoyed the show, I really appreciate it.
[00:57:14]  This is not a bruise on my head.
[00:57:16]  All right.
[00:57:16]  This is a birth.
[00:57:17]  Everyone always keeps asking you, like, they're down on the red man.
[00:57:21]  Okay.
[00:57:22]  That's what it is.
[00:57:23]  But no, I'm just kidding.
[00:57:24]  It's just a birthmark.
[00:57:25]  It's normal.
[00:57:26]  I don't want people to be worried about me.
[00:57:28]  I'm not sick or anything like that.
[00:57:29]  It's just, it's a part of my life.
[00:57:31]  Rex, you're dying.
[00:57:32]  Yes.
[00:57:32]  Oh, it's over.
[00:57:34]  No, but I'm all right.
[00:57:35]  It's all good.
[00:57:35]  But we have a lot of stuff from the title.
[00:57:38]  We have mini deep dive.
[00:57:38]  Yeah, too.
[00:57:39]  But we're on the assassination.
[00:57:41]  Oh, yeah.
[00:57:42]  We're tired, too.
[00:57:43]  It is.
[00:57:43]  Noel, so, okay, let's catch them up on what's been going on.
[00:57:47]  So today, we just were at the Infowars studio.
[00:57:51]  Guys, it is 100% official.
[00:57:53]  This place is closing.
[00:57:55]  It's done, done.
[00:57:56]  Thursday is the very last day.
[00:57:58]  Something like that.
[00:57:59]  And I went there.
[00:58:00]  I've seen everything.
[00:58:01]  Everything is in boxes.
[00:58:02]  It's a ghost town.
[00:58:03]  To people who think it's just a grift and that the thing is continuing, no, it's dead.
[00:58:08]  Okay.
[00:58:09]  Everyone's got their personal belongings tucked away.
[00:58:12]  It's empty like we've never seen it before.
[00:58:14]  I mean, Tim, when we were in there, there was one guy.
[00:58:17]  Yeah.
[00:58:19]  We're nearing end times here.
[00:58:20]  But with that, we did a beautiful send off eulogy celebration of life.
[00:58:24]  And we had the Maverick approach guys.
[00:58:26]  Yes.
[00:58:27]  And I did their show in Vegas the day before you arrived.
[00:58:30]  We did Gray Area X Maverick approach and then we did like a walkthrough tour.
[00:58:36]  Yeah, Rex had this genius idea.
[00:58:37]  I put it together last second.
[00:58:39]  It's going to be amazing.
[00:58:40]  You're going to love it.
[00:58:41]  It's going to be, you're going to see like the whole Infowars studio.
[00:58:45]  Like we're showing everything.
[00:58:47]  We're showing where the man himself, Alex Jones, sits, what the behind the scenes looks like.
[00:58:52]  Things you've never seen before.
[00:58:53]  And things that you've never seen before.
[00:58:54]  So it's a whole tour.
[00:58:57]  We're all in the video and then we also sit down.
[00:58:59]  We have a chat and everything like that.
[00:59:02]  So that video is going to drop.
[00:59:04]  Yeah, probably within like a week or two after we get everything together.
[00:59:07]  Sure.
[00:59:07]  I mean, we did so much amazing behind the scenes filming.
[00:59:10]  So, like, I'm going to be working with the InfoWars crew on a lot of the editing we're going to do for this.
[00:59:15]  And thank God they had an amazing camera lady there.
[00:59:19]  Yeah, that was clutch.
[00:59:20]  Yeah, that without that, it wouldn't have been what we were able to do.
[00:59:23]  We would have been like had an iPhone camera.
[00:59:24]  This is it's going to be so cool when you see this, when it drops, when it comes out.
[00:59:29]  And something I really hope we're going to be able to do, and we'll release multiple different versions of this because it's really going to be evergreen, like, it's going to be amazing.
[00:59:38]  In between the walkthrough, like when I'm referencing things or talking about how it used to be, we have tons of old footage of that place.
[00:59:45]  So being able to toss that, you see what I'm saying?
[00:59:47]  Like, this is gonna be, you're gonna love it.
[00:59:49]  And like, this is the thing is like, we have these ideas, we make these things for you guys.
[00:59:53]  We're having so much fun.
[00:59:55]  Did you tell Rob that?
[00:59:56]  Yeah, we're working on it.
[00:59:58]  Oh, dude, that would be magical.
[01:00:00]  Cause it's like, it almost like breaks it up, but then you get the nostalgia as you're talking about it.
[01:00:04]  That's another level.
[01:00:05]  And those guys are so cool and they have a really great show.
[01:00:08]  We hope to do more stuff with them in the future.
[01:00:10]  We're gonna do more stuff with them in the future.
[01:00:12]  New media is so cool.
[01:00:13]  It's so exciting to be online, to be doing the streaming, to be doing the show.
[01:00:18]  We're just meeting the best people.
[01:00:19]  Meeting the best people, and the collabs are happening left and right.
[01:00:22]  You know, we're really enjoying just being able to be out there.
[01:00:26]  If you guys haven't seen us on Hodge Twins, that dropped on Friday.
[01:00:30]  You guys should go check out that podcast that we did with the Hodge Twins.
[01:00:33]  I thought it was a phenomenal episode.
[01:00:35]  I had a lot of fun.
[01:00:36]  I don't know about you.
[01:00:36]  I had a great time.
[01:00:38]  They're phenomenal guys.
[01:00:39]  And it's the thing is, like, these dudes, like, they had everything in their interest to just tow party line, do whatever.
[01:00:45]  But they're real, authentic Americans, so they speak their mind.
[01:00:48]  Yeah.
[01:00:48]  And, like, that's refreshing to us.
[01:00:50]  That's what we want to see.
[01:00:51]  And it's so clear when stuff is like fake or organized because you go into these environments and it's what you said.
[01:00:57]  We're talking to the producer after the show.
[01:00:59]  It's just people, it's just organic, it's just real, it's just what it is.
[01:01:03]  You get what you're promised, which is authenticity.
[01:01:06]  100%.
[01:01:06]  And that's what people are hungry for.
[01:01:08]  And the biggest thing that I want to say is that every single person that not only just supports InfoWars, I know a lot of you guys are here that are from the InfoWars family and now you have come into our family here in the gray area.
[01:01:22]  This is, you know, we're trying to steer the next generation, but Alex Jones' network is also going to be a big thing on its own as well.
[01:01:31]  So you're going to see a progression of bigger and better things on every single thing that we're going to be doing going forward.
[01:01:39]  The sky's the limit.
[01:01:40]  It's going to be really exciting.
[01:01:42]  There's a lot of scary things happening in the country, but a lot of really amazing things as well.
[01:01:46]  People are unifying finally, not on a racial basis or a sexual basis or an ideological basis, even.
[01:01:53]  They're unifying on the basis that they're all humans and they don't want to live in a destroyed society.
[01:01:58]  We got a chat here.
[01:01:59]  Oh, we got a super chat?
[01:02:00]  No, not super chat.
[01:02:01]  Oh, wow.
[01:02:01]  I actually cried because InfoWars is shutting down.
[01:02:04]  It's been a big part of my life for 16 years.
[01:02:06]  Yeah, me too.
[01:02:07]  And two years ago, when I went in there and it was finito and the auction was going on, I was like, wow, it's really over.
[01:02:15]  But because the judge put a stay on that and essentially threw it out, we've been in this limbo period for such a long time.
[01:02:21]  And I understand you're sad it's gone.
[01:02:24]  Don't be sad that it's gone.
[01:02:25]  Be happy that it happened.
[01:02:26]  And it's going to happen again on the new network.
[01:02:28]  Yeah, it's just a shell.
[01:02:29]  It's going to become a new thing.
[01:02:31]  It's so weird because today I was sitting, I was working at my engineering job, and like my boss sees like the InfoWars logo and he's like, Oh, InfoWars.
[01:02:42]  I'm like, You know InfoWars?
[01:02:43]  He's like, Yeah.
[01:02:44]  He's like, I was watching that in 2005, and I'm like, Holy crap.
[01:02:48]  There's a lot of history.
[01:02:49]  Been around for forever.
[01:02:51]  And he was watching my dad in that room that we filmed out of today.
[01:02:55]  That's all another thing.
[01:02:57]  We didn't film in the big studio or anything like that.
[01:03:00]  That there's some audio issues, couldn't necessarily make it work, but we made it even better.
[01:03:04]  We filmed out of the original Alex Jones studio the first one, the one with all the grainy clips, the ones from uh 2002 all the way to that room justice, man.
[01:03:14]  Yeah, absolutely, that's a great way to say it.
[01:03:16]  We did that room justice.
[01:03:18]  That's the final uh taping, uh, filming that'll ever be done in that room.
[01:03:22]  After that, you know, someone will come in there, some contractor, they'll rip it out, they won't know what it was.
[01:03:27]  I want to know what it was.
[01:03:28]  Last thing before I get into what we're going to cover, I want to cover this one right here.
[01:03:32]  I was going to say this on the podcast with.
[01:03:35]  Uh, the Maverick guys, but it kind of swept in, and we went on to something else, you know.
[01:03:41]  Aside of whatever you whether you love, hate, love Alex, whether you hate Alex, however people feel about him, one thing that I can say definitively is, you know, no one understands what goes through his head, the amount of pressure, like being the guy on at the head of the spear, and understanding that you're not only just have to work, it's not like he can just.
[01:04:07]  Disappear and just like relax.
[01:04:09]  There are people that rely on him for the food on his, on their tables, their family.
[01:04:14]  He's built something so monumental.
[01:04:17]  And so you can only imagine the amount of stress that somebody has to endure for almost a decade.
[01:04:24]  Yeah.
[01:04:25]  No, it's insane.
[01:04:26]  Absolutely.
[01:04:26]  I mean, the lawfare is just crazy.
[01:04:29]  And here's the thing it was never, I know we got people in here because I saw one of you before.
[01:04:33]  It was never about justice.
[01:04:34]  It was never about protecting the families or any of that garbage that you've been sold.
[01:04:40]  And I know you understand the narrative that you buy into it, whatever.
[01:04:43]  It was never about that.
[01:04:44]  It was about chopping my father's legs off.
[01:04:46]  It was about taking his platform away and making sure that he didn't have a voice.
[01:04:50]  That's what they said in court.
[01:04:52]  And that's not a part of our justice system.
[01:04:54]  That's not a part of our civil court system.
[01:04:56]  That's not legal.
[01:04:58]  That is illegal.
[01:04:59]  These people were offered tens of millions of dollars.
[01:05:02]  If the operation was allowed to continue with no restriction or oversight, they would have gotten paid way more money than they're ever going to see now from the burned out husk of the operation.
[01:05:13]  They refused that.
[01:05:15]  Because they wanted to silence him.
[01:05:17]  They wanted to take his platform away.
[01:05:19]  They wanted to take something from someone and then deface it, demean it, degrade it, because that's all they're able to do.
[01:05:26]  All these people that you're a fan of, all the people that you worship, the mainstream media, the podcasts that have made an entire career off of bottom feeding off my dad, whatever you want to say, all of that is an infrastructure that exists artificially.
[01:05:41]  It's propped up by big money that you don't even know about or realize.
[01:05:44]  All right.
[01:05:44]  We were never propped up by big money.
[01:05:47]  Give me the Primal Core product.
[01:05:48]  Do we have it?
[01:05:48]  Yeah, that's right.
[01:05:49]  Yeah.
[01:05:50]  So look at this.
[01:05:50]  All right.
[01:05:51]  And we sell this at goprimalcore.com.
[01:05:52]  We sell supplements too because it's the best way to fund the operation.
[01:05:55]  This is what created the Alex Jones show selling a physical supplement product, a nutritional supplement, a product that everybody needs.
[01:06:04]  That's not snake oil.
[01:06:05]  That's not some crazy thing.
[01:06:07]  These are essential minerals that you have to have.
[01:06:10]  All right.
[01:06:11]  Millions, if not billions, of people take vitamins, supplements.
[01:06:14]  These things are very normal.
[01:06:16]  But they painted it out that he was this evil man that made hundreds of millions of dollars.
[01:06:21]  Claiming something wasn't real.
[01:06:23]  It was probably one ten thousandth of his coverage.
[01:06:25]  Yeah, even if you justify and say that, like, oh, he said the things and all of those things, you got to understand the punishment has to match the crime.
[01:06:34]  It does.
[01:06:34]  And it does not.
[01:06:36]  There's no way you can skin that cat to make it make sense.
[01:06:39]  And this would be my question to the person in the audience that's a Knowledge Fight fan Do you think he should have to pay $1 billion?
[01:06:50]  Do you think he should have to work like a slave for the rest of his life in order to pay $1 billion?
[01:06:54]  First of all, most people.
[01:06:56]  Billionaires don't even have a billion liquid.
[01:06:58]  Absolutely.
[01:07:00]  That's a whole nother thing.
[01:07:01]  But I lost my train of thought.
[01:07:03]  Sorry.
[01:07:03]  No, no, you're all good.
[01:07:04]  What were you talking about?
[01:07:05]  No, you're just saying like you were.
[01:07:07]  Oh, a billion dollars.
[01:07:08]  Yeah, a billion dollars.
[01:07:09]  So they were offered, this isn't speculation, but it's more than speculation.
[01:07:14]  They were offered $55 million.
[01:07:16]  Okay.
[01:07:16]  That was a number that could have been paid.
[01:07:19]  Would that be good?
[01:07:20]  Would that be restitution?
[01:07:21]  They sued Remington.
[01:07:22]  They sued the gun manufacturer.
[01:07:23]  You know how much they got?
[01:07:25]  70 something, right?
[01:07:27]  71 million.
[01:07:27]  And they didn't go for more.
[01:07:29]  So, is my dad worse than the people who made the gun that killed the children?

=== Billionaire Liquid Assets Claim (03:52) ===

[01:07:34]  That's so true.
[01:07:35]  So, explain.
[01:07:38]  And you see how you're a liar.
[01:07:39]  You see how you've been lied to even more than that?
[01:07:42]  Do you understand?
[01:07:43]  It's a fetish for you.
[01:07:45]  They get off on it, they diddle themselves to it.
[01:07:48]  The narrative of, oh, we know, we know, look at this crazy guy.
[01:07:52]  Hell yeah, he's a crazy guy.
[01:07:53]  Who's not a crazy guy?
[01:07:55]  The real thing is, it's the satisfaction that they wanted.
[01:07:59]  Yeah, absolutely.
[01:08:00]  That's what that number was about.
[01:08:01]  So.
[01:08:02]  Yeah, man.
[01:08:03]  I just, the last thing I'll say is I really appreciate not only, you know, the InfoWars family, but you also bringing me in and making me feel comfortable doing all of that and just everyone just being super supportive and just never had any problems with me.
[01:08:22]  I've never had an issue with anybody there.
[01:08:24]  And that's the thing is like the people watching this, and we love and adore the viewers and listeners that are out there, but there are also people out there that, you know, may not see things from our perspective.
[01:08:32]  They literally think it's like a Heil Hitler Nazi fest.
[01:08:36]  It's not.
[01:08:37]  I mean, the stories that have been told.
[01:08:40]  They're the most normal people possible.
[01:08:42]  Yeah.
[01:08:43]  Have great conversations, family people, family men.
[01:08:47]  Yeah.
[01:08:47]  It literally, they're all people with children.
[01:08:50]  And when you try to shut down the operation, you're pausing when those kids get food.
[01:08:54]  Do you understand?
[01:08:56]  You piece of human filth.
[01:08:57]  Like, seriously, you're taking food out of children's mouths when you do stuff like this.
[01:09:03]  You're creating job insecurity.
[01:09:06]  Yeah.
[01:09:06]  They manufacture job insecurity in the name of morality.
[01:09:09]  Yeah.
[01:09:10]  They say, oh, no, this thing that's profitable, that's working, that's making money for people, that's allowing people to eat and sleep at night and to live in homes.
[01:09:17]  We got to take that away because people's feelings were hurt one time.
[01:09:20]  Yeah.
[01:09:21]  I'm sorry.
[01:09:21]  I'm sorry.
[01:09:22]  Who firebombed these people's homes?
[01:09:24]  You know, who did like terroristic acts to these people?
[01:09:27]  They were left a note.
[01:09:29]  Someone said something to them one time.
[01:09:31]  No evidence was ever presented in court.
[01:09:33]  What they did is they had the parent on the stand relive the most traumatic experience of their life, which is losing their child.
[01:09:40]  And then they point at Alex Jones and said, And did this man deny you?
[01:09:44]  And they go, Yes, yes.
[01:09:46]  And then what is the jury supposed to do?
[01:09:48]  They're going to say the mean, evil man owes a billion dollars.
[01:09:52]  I mean, like, it's a fairy tale.
[01:09:54]  It's a kangaroo.
[01:09:55]  Well, and they gave the jury the number.
[01:09:57]  They didn't come up with that on the phone.
[01:09:59]  This is a whole.
[01:10:00]  I was about to say, like, I don't.
[01:10:02]  I even, as being in the jury, I couldn't fathom, like, a billion dollars.
[01:10:06]  I'm like, first of all, y'all, people, like, forget the damages part, but, like, who can actually.
[01:10:13]  What would they do with a billion dollars?
[01:10:14]  Well, they had a guy go up on the stand.
[01:10:17]  He was some Ivy League professor, whatever.
[01:10:18]  He was the plaintiff's financial expert.
[01:10:20]  And hey, sue me if it's not true.
[01:10:22]  You're all in the chat, whatever.
[01:10:23]  Sue me if it's not true.
[01:10:24]  The financial expert.
[01:10:26]  Went up there and I watched it on live stream on one of the InfoWars TVs.
[01:10:29]  He said, My dad or InfoWars, whatever, was worth $280 million liquid.
[01:10:35]  Liquid is crazy.
[01:10:36]  Not sure, liquid.
[01:10:37]  I want to clarify because I said, Sue me if it's not true, but $280 million.
[01:10:41]  That's how much he claimed my dad was worth.
[01:10:43]  My dad's never been worth more than $10,000.
[01:10:45]  Well, and what they do is they take the multiplier of the business, and I bet that's where that came from.
[01:10:51]  Well, yeah.
[01:10:52]  So what they did is they took 2015 to 2018, where InfoWars generated $180 million in gross revenue.
[01:10:58]  Now, keep in mind, this is a company.
[01:11:00]  With 78 employees, this is a company with two massive facilities three actually, both sides of that office, like those two buildings, and then a nearly 20,000 square foot warehouse.
[01:11:11]  All right, and you're paying for even more people over there.
[01:11:13]  It's a crew of like 100 people that's 100 people that you're paying twice a month on payroll.
[01:11:17]  All right, so they throw together this big number, and in the minds of the people they're propagandizing, they see my dad as like a mega church pastor.

=== Security Layers and Money (15:12) ===

[01:11:26]  Like, look at this guy, he's probably got planes and jets and all the crazy stuff.
[01:11:29]  He's spent all that money on the operation, a lot less than he could have, right?
[01:11:33]  I'm gonna be honest, your dad could have like Put aside like a good 50 million.
[01:11:39]  He didn't have it.
[01:11:39]  He would have been like set for life.
[01:11:42]  He could have done that, but then I saw where the money was.
[01:11:44]  I saw him walking through the money.
[01:11:46]  Man, you guys need to watch this video when it comes out.
[01:11:50]  You're going to be shocked.
[01:11:51]  I mean, the equipment may seem old.
[01:11:53]  Like you say, it's old, but when I see it, it looks cool as shit.
[01:11:57]  It's a strong ship, but it's got old bones and it's worn down to the waterline.
[01:12:03]  It's still a very impressive battle station, but it's not what it used to be.
[01:12:06]  Well, We're going to be carrying the torch, guys.
[01:12:09]  Yeah.
[01:12:09]  Rare areas in full effect.
[01:12:11]  We are not going anywhere.
[01:12:12]  Tonight, I'm doing a little bit of a smaller deep dive.
[01:12:16]  I didn't want to do a full intensive.
[01:12:18]  I honestly haven't had the ability to do so.
[01:12:20]  I've been working my engineering job and also doing this.
[01:12:25]  I'm wiped too.
[01:12:26]  You want to get through it?
[01:12:27]  Power through it.
[01:12:28]  Gotta power through it because I got to power through it because I do it for the love of the game.
[01:12:36]  I'll carry.
[01:12:37]  No, you're good.
[01:12:37]  I'm going to be Lobot.
[01:12:39]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:12:41]  But what I wanted to cover, I remember, I forget.
[01:12:45]  Let me pull up the name of the person who gave us the deep dive from last time.
[01:12:49]  I'm still working on it.
[01:12:50]  I've got the name right here.
[01:12:51]  Give me one second.
[01:12:52]  And even give me one second.
[01:12:53]  Okay, so I'm going to change my shirt.
[01:12:54]  MAGA Kitten Ultra on the last stream said, Hey, Tim, you should do a deep dive into how much debt we actually own.
[01:13:05]  And the government literally owns the debt like a debt collector.
[01:13:08]  It's all a scam.
[01:13:09]  So I promised her.
[01:13:12]  Or it might be a guy.
[01:13:13]  I promised them that I would do this deep dive and I am fulfilling on that promise.
[01:13:19]  I have already been doing the research, but again, I got to find the bandwidth and the time to do this.
[01:13:24]  So we're going to be covering that probably after Ohio because I won't be in town.
[01:13:33]  I'm going directly to Miami after Ohio.
[01:13:36]  So it'll have to be the following Sunday, but that one is in the works.
[01:13:39]  It's going to be a phenomenal episode.
[01:13:41]  Tonight, what I want to cover is the.
[01:13:44]  Trump situation that went on in the shooting.
[01:13:49]  For me, you know, I'm not a conspiracy theorist guy.
[01:13:53]  You guys know me.
[01:13:54]  I'm very analytical, you know, sometimes.
[01:13:57]  And for me, I had to understand what's going on with this.
[01:14:01]  Some people think it's a false flag.
[01:14:02]  Some people think that he planned this or like how could he break through all these layers of security?
[01:14:11]  So, I mean, we were talking about it today.
[01:14:13]  I said, you know, maybe let me.
[01:14:15]  Understand this a little bit.
[01:14:16]  So, there are details that are still coming out with this whole thing.
[01:14:19]  There's no concrete understanding of every single thing that's happening.
[01:14:23]  It's an ongoing investigation, but I'll try my best to kind of distill things down.
[01:14:28]  Take everything that I say tonight with a grain of salt because it's just kind of preliminary investigation work that I am doing.
[01:14:34]  So, let's just start with maybe some of the videos to recap on the stuff that was going on.
[01:14:41]  Wes, what videos you got going on here?
[01:14:44]  Let's not play that one first.
[01:14:46]  We're going to play maybe some of the chaos that went on.
[01:14:49]  Is this the guy sprinting?
[01:14:52]  Okay, yeah, let's go ahead and play the guy sprinting through security.
[01:14:56]  You might be a bit of a conspiracy guy, Tim.
[01:14:58]  I know you're not totally, you can't totally be denied, but go ahead, go ahead.
[01:15:17]  That boy ran a 4 4.
[01:15:19]  He's a track star.
[01:15:20]  That's crazy.
[01:15:21]  He's a runner, he's a track star.
[01:15:23]  Wow.
[01:15:24]  I mean, that is some serious speed.
[01:15:26]  And then 15 miles on the road.
[01:15:27]  Did you have any of the footage of Trump there and everything that happened there?
[01:15:31]  I mean, I'm sure everybody's seen that clip or that video.
[01:15:34]  But.
[01:15:35]  Hey, he's just kind of sitting there spaced out.
[01:15:36]  Yeah, I guess.
[01:15:37]  Another assassination attempt.
[01:15:39]  So I guess I'll start here with the big confusion.
[01:15:43]  So people think the Secret Service means like the whole building becomes like a lockdown military base.
[01:15:50]  And where this was taking place was a hotel.
[01:15:54]  Where they do a lot of events.
[01:15:57]  Right.
[01:15:57]  Wasn't this where Reagan was almost assassinated?
[01:16:00]  Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
[01:16:02]  So you got to think about like, you know, Secret Service protection works in layers.
[01:16:08]  And so the closer you get to the president, the tighter the security gets.
[01:16:14]  It's like an onion, right?
[01:16:15]  Onion.
[01:16:16]  And so the real.
[01:16:20]  Now you're good.
[01:16:21]  So the question is not, was there security?
[01:16:23]  The real question is, like, how does somebody get through the weaker outer layers?
[01:16:27]  Reaching the inner stronger layer.
[01:16:29]  Right.
[01:16:30]  And so let's go ahead and play that clip first of the first video that you had, Wes, of the guy, the secret security, that YouTube video.
[01:16:41]  And he kind of explains the breakdown in security.
[01:16:46]  Yeah, let's go ahead and just play it.
[01:16:47]  This is like a quick 50 second clip.
[01:16:50]  This is a former Secret Service guy.
[01:16:53]  Go ahead and play this.
[01:16:54]  Quite frankly, I don't believe that he was able to get that close.
[01:16:58]  I've been in that hotel.
[01:17:00]  You know, that's the infamous hotel where Reagan was shot in 1981.
[01:17:05]  The United States Secret Service knows that hotel very well.
[01:17:09]  They've set up this layer of security and the security plan for decades now.
[01:17:14]  And I think that last night's security plan went according to the way it was supposed to.
[01:17:20]  You know, again, I don't think that he was ever in any imminent danger.
[01:17:26]  I think where we could probably do better, you know, even two weeks ago, I learned that.
[01:17:32]  The president was going to be attending the correspondence dinner.
[01:17:35]  I would say that that would really be my only negative feedback is that perhaps the president's movements should not be broadcast.
[01:17:47]  People are not going to like my take.
[01:17:50]  People are going to say, All right, let's start with it.
[01:17:52]  People are going to say, I'm playing for like Laura Loomer and Mike Levin now.
[01:17:55]  I think this was just a wacko.
[01:17:57]  I think somebody decided that they were going to go from California in there and do it.
[01:18:02]  No, you and I are on the same page.
[01:18:03]  But like, I mean, you got a guy, it's just like, And here's the thing is, like, this guy is like, he's got some sort of science degree, and he's like, I'm just going to run in here and get shot.
[01:18:15]  Like, what do you think is going to happen?
[01:18:17]  Yeah.
[01:18:17]  Like, he's like one of the most secure areas.
[01:18:20]  No, one of the most secure areas.
[01:18:21]  And I'll peel back the layers.
[01:18:23]  I'm also on your team.
[01:18:24]  Well, and here's the thing is, like, we were talking to Maverick about this, and they're talking about like the NASA ties, and there is stuff that is weird.
[01:18:30]  There is stuff that's worth looking into, but not everything is like complete nutball.
[01:18:36]  Yeah.
[01:18:36]  It's hard to, and it's also hard to, Draw strings.
[01:18:40]  And I told them this.
[01:18:41]  I said, look, there are parts of the story and everything in which there are details that are true, but the correlation and causality is not the same thing all the time.
[01:18:53]  Like they could be completely independent events.
[01:18:56]  That is, those things do happen.
[01:18:58]  And so sometimes people have bits and pieces of the story and they have certain parts that are accurate, but the full linear story might be completely different than how you piece and stitch that together.
[01:19:09]  The strongest argument I've heard is like he wants the ballroom built.
[01:19:13]  He's very insistent on this.
[01:19:15]  A lot of them are very insistent on this.
[01:19:17]  Oh, we have a security threat run in, and then boom, we have kind of a memorandum from heaven to build the ballroom.
[01:19:23]  So, like, that makes sense to me.
[01:19:25]  I can buy that.
[01:19:26]  I'm just more on the side of like, it's just a dude that's like, I'm going to run in there for.
[01:19:31]  So, let me break down the layers of the security and how it would go.
[01:19:34]  So, let's look at layer one, the outside area.
[01:19:37]  So, the first layer is outside of the hotel.
[01:19:40]  So, this is going to include like police.
[01:19:43]  This is going to include road closures.
[01:19:46]  This is going to include like.
[01:19:48]  Barriers, traffic control, bomb dogs, officers, people watching people coming towards the venue.
[01:19:54]  And so, you know, this doesn't mean that every person near the building is searched, but it is a layer that's keeping most of the area controlled.
[01:20:04]  Right.
[01:20:04]  Before you even hit the hotel.
[01:20:06]  Now, the second layer is the hotel itself.
[01:20:10]  And this is obviously where the issue started.
[01:20:12]  So the suspect had reportedly booked a room.
[01:20:19]  And ABC reported law enforcement sources believe that he booked it in earlier April.
[01:20:25]  So he already knew it was going to happen there and he booked a room.
[01:20:28]  He was already in the hotel.
[01:20:30]  And so, you know, he just was a regular guest.
[01:20:33]  And that's the dangerous part because a hotel guest can already be inside of the building and, you know, without being cleared to enter the president's event.
[01:20:42]  Wow.
[01:20:42]  So you're already past layer one by being in the building.
[01:20:45]  Okay.
[01:20:46]  And so now we've got layer three, which is the area of the event.
[01:20:50]  Right.
[01:20:51]  And this is the next layer.
[01:20:52]  This is the area near the dinner.
[01:20:54]  This is where the tickets, the credential, the guest checking, the staffs, that is kind of like the.
[01:21:02]  Messy area.
[01:21:04]  And so I think that's where you're seeing it going into like layer four and, you know, the actual like meters that, what are they called?
[01:21:16]  Magnetometers checkpoint.
[01:21:20]  And so you just see him book it through that.
[01:21:23]  And just think about like even TSA security.
[01:21:26]  Like, let's just think about TSA.
[01:21:28]  Like, you're at the airport, it's not hard to run past gaps.
[01:21:34]  Where there's security.
[01:21:36]  You have like 20 people point guns at him immediately.
[01:21:39]  Yeah.
[01:21:39]  What do you expect?
[01:21:41]  You can clearly do this at any location wherever you see fit.
[01:21:45]  It's not like it's a door that opens up one at a time and there's barriers.
[01:21:51]  It's never the case.
[01:21:52]  It's normally a normal.
[01:21:53]  You just walk through.
[01:21:55]  Well, you got to sprint through.
[01:21:56]  If you try to walk through, that's fine.
[01:21:57]  If you have a gun on you, you have to run through.
[01:22:00]  Maybe it won't go off.
[01:22:01]  So, yeah, he didn't calmly pass the checkpoint, he rushed it.
[01:22:05]  And so then you've got layer five, which is the actual ballroom.
[01:22:08]  He was nowhere near the ballroom.
[01:22:11]  You know, if you think about it, a gunshot, you can hear it.
[01:22:14]  But I forget, there was an image and it showed where he was trying to come from and where he came from.
[01:22:21]  He wouldn't have gotten even within five feet of the president.
[01:22:24]  Imagine, though, and think about this I do not advocate for this at all.
[01:22:27]  I abhor political violence.
[01:22:29]  I am not like giving a hypothetical here as to like just like a threat scenario analyzing this real world event.
[01:22:35]  Yeah.
[01:22:35]  Imagine if you have like eight people that are armed.
[01:22:38]  You know, you'd probably be able to actually get through that first layer of security.
[01:22:41]  I'm sure they would stop you, but it is kind of ridiculous that they have the president, you know, at this like hotel, you know, essentially.
[01:22:47]  Well, okay, so remember in that video, this is a hotel that's been regularly used for events.
[01:22:54]  This is where, uh, okay, where, where a president was almost assassinated.
[01:22:57]  It's easier to be secure.
[01:22:59]  I'm telling you, you're thinking between the layer of where they're met, where they're like doing all the security and checking if you have a gun versus getting to their room.
[01:23:09]  There's, All types of security, and you're talking about a far distance before you even hit that room.
[01:23:15]  Wow.
[01:23:15]  You know, it's not a straight shot.
[01:23:17]  I didn't look at the blueprint, but I don't think it's a straight shot from the door to the venue door.
[01:23:23]  Absolutely.
[01:23:24]  I don't think it.
[01:23:25]  And you guys can fact check me on that.
[01:23:26]  I can look it up.
[01:23:27]  So that is the argument as to what he is actually trying to get accomplished there because no one should attempt to ever do anything like this, right?
[01:23:36]  But he had the idea of, oh, I'm going to go change the world.
[01:23:39]  I'm going to go run in there and do something.
[01:23:41]  That's why I do look at it from the perspective of, I'm not 100% on anything I lean towards strongly, to be honest, lean towards like this just being like a random whack job.
[01:23:50]  But they do also want to really build the ballroom.
[01:23:52]  So it is very, it's just, it's very weird.
[01:23:55]  And like we live in an age, like how many times has Trump been targeted now?
[01:23:58]  Like three times apparently.
[01:24:00]  Like you think about these political assassinations.
[01:24:02]  Trump even came out and talked about it.
[01:24:04]  I think a president getting shot at is like a six or a nine percent chance.
[01:24:09]  Oh, yeah, yeah.
[01:24:10]  I've got a perfect video that, that, uh, Wes has got up right now.
[01:24:14]  We can cut, it's got, it's got a great breakdown.
[01:24:16]  Down of the crook situation.
[01:24:18]  Let's go and cover this real quick.
[01:24:19]  It's only a couple minutes.
[01:24:21]  This is the shooting that we all know about that was the most dangerous.
[01:24:25]  Let's go ahead and play this.
[01:24:28]  One of the mantras of the presidential protection detail is to pay attention to detail.
[01:24:33]  And that's one of the failures that I see with Butler not only was he able to get off rounds, but he was able to focus in, to see the protectee from outside the venue, and to put those shots in with some accuracy.
[01:24:45]  So that's actually multiple failures.
[01:24:47]  You don't want to be reacting to the sound of gunshot because those bullets have already whizzed past if you hear it.
[01:24:52]  When prevention doesn't work and now you're reacting, your job is to cover.
[01:24:57]  The protectee and then to evacuate that protectee.
[01:24:59]  And the cover looked outstanding.
[01:25:01]  The reaction by the detail was very good.
[01:25:04]  They were very fast.
[01:25:06]  It was fearless as it should be.
[01:25:08]  Their training kicked in and they did exactly what we trained to do, which is get on top of that protectee and put them down.
[01:25:14]  Put them down behind some assets and resources where they can't take another intentional, focused shot at the protectee.
[01:25:22]  There are a myriad of ways that that could have been and should have been prevented.
[01:25:28]  That weren't that day.
[01:25:29]  Shipping containers blocking line of sight.
[01:25:31]  You can't use a shipping container, which is going to stop the bullets.
[01:25:34]  Could you use a flag?
[01:25:35]  Could you use a banner?
[01:25:36]  Could you turn that stage to where the back of the stage is now facing that threat zone that maybe you don't have all the resources to post, but you could can't the stage such that it takes away that line of sight.
[01:25:49]  And now your line of sight is an empty field, bulletproof glass.
[01:25:54]  We use that at the National Lighting of the Christmas Tree every year for outdoor events.
[01:25:59]  And so those.
[01:26:00]  Those resources are there.
[01:26:01]  I think the investigation is going to have to ask those hard questions as to why weren't those kind of resources used for this event.
[01:26:08]  A lot of what you see is kind of like the tip of the iceberg.
[01:26:11]  You saw the protective detail around President Trump, and they're the ones in the suits that reacted and jumped on top of him and then tried to affect that getaway from the scene.
[01:26:22]  You also saw counter assault team members who came out from their position, kind of out of sight at a tactical position, but now they've come out of that tactical position into actual tactics.
[01:26:34]  You saw them on stage because they had the helmets and the black gear.

=== Fishy Investigation Resources (03:47) ===

[01:26:38]  They collaborate and train with Navy SEALs, with Delta, with FBI HRT.
[01:26:44]  So it's a very specialized team.
[01:26:45]  They're highly trained.
[01:26:47]  The images that the media shows over and over on the rooftop were our counter sniper units.
[01:26:52]  So if I'm not mistaken, that's the first round one of our United States Secret Service counter snipers have ever fired at another human being.
[01:27:01]  Wow.
[01:27:01]  It was a perfect show.
[01:27:02]  How does he get up there?
[01:27:03]  How does he get up there on the rooftop?
[01:27:05]  Okay, yeah.
[01:27:07]  So, like this one.
[01:27:08]  There's more things fishy about the butler one than there would ever be for this one.
[01:27:14]  This one, I feel like, is a more normal one.
[01:27:17]  You have an alibi.
[01:27:18]  It's very clear.
[01:27:18]  He got a hotel room.
[01:27:20]  He probably found a door to bum rush.
[01:27:23]  Thomas Crooks is in a BlackRock commercial.
[01:27:27]  Thomas Crooks had two parents that were both, I think they're government psychologists or social workers.
[01:27:31]  Thomas Crooks had no silverware in his house.
[01:27:34]  Thomas Crooks has his school photo where he's wearing the Mount Rushmore shirt.
[01:27:38]  They want to convince you that he's an Iranian.
[01:27:40]  We know absolutely nothing.
[01:27:42]  About Thomas Crooks, who he was, who his family currently is.
[01:27:46]  You don't know the names of any of these people.
[01:27:49]  You don't know where they're at.
[01:27:50]  You don't know what they're doing.
[01:27:51]  And you would think, and you've talked about this a lot before, and I have as well, if you're the president and someone tries to kill you, what's the first thing you do when you're in office?
[01:28:01]  Yeah, I said, yeah, you're going to go and spend every resource possible to figure out who the person is.
[01:28:07]  Totally justified, too.
[01:28:08]  And you have, and you broadcast it, you've got every resource at your disposal.
[01:28:13]  If they were like, we've got to spend $10 billion to find who did this.
[01:28:17]  To me, like it would totally be worth it because you're trying to kill the U.S. president.
[01:28:21]  Like, I don't like Trump anymore.
[01:28:23]  I don't know how you feel.
[01:28:24]  We got serious issues with Trump.
[01:28:25]  Let's just leave it at that.
[01:28:26]  But the president of the United States is a symbol for the country.
[01:28:30]  And in the same way, I wouldn't spit on Barack Obama.
[01:28:32]  I wouldn't spit on Donald Trump.
[01:28:34]  And he should be alive.
[01:28:35]  He should be impeached.
[01:28:36]  Like there's a trial.
[01:28:38]  There are things that have to be done.
[01:28:39]  There's a proper process.
[01:28:40]  Political violence is absolutely never the answer.
[01:28:43]  Yeah.
[01:28:44]  And they want the political violence.
[01:28:45]  And the only thing I can justify or think of, like, if you want to take the more logical route for this, of like how all of that happened, is, you know, Trump wasn't.
[01:28:57]  He was running for president, right?
[01:28:58]  Right.
[01:28:59]  So you didn't have the A team of security detail and all the things that are necessary.
[01:29:04]  That's also suspect.
[01:29:05]  And that also points towards, you know, Hinky involvement.
[01:29:08]  No, no, no.
[01:29:09]  Something is definitely fishy.
[01:29:11]  I can't point.
[01:29:12]  I can't point where it is.
[01:29:14]  It's the whole ocean.
[01:29:14]  Damn, it's the whole ocean.
[01:29:16]  I can't point to where it is.
[01:29:18]  But there's enough, like, gaps for confusion that, like, I don't think we'll ever learn the true story of what really happened.
[01:29:24]  And it's not fair to the American people.
[01:29:26]  Yeah, it is.
[01:29:27]  It isn't.
[01:29:28]  So, you know, like, here's my conclusion on this.
[01:29:32]  Like, so how could this happen?
[01:29:33]  So, the most likely simple explanation for this is you know, the dinner location is public.
[01:29:39]  You always have events at this place.
[01:29:41]  Right.
[01:29:42]  The suspect may have booked a hotel room ahead of time.
[01:29:45]  He may have, you know, that may have put him inside of the outer layer of security.
[01:29:52]  And then he allegedly moved towards the event area, rushed the checkpoint, went to the ballroom, see if his service already stopped him.
[01:29:59]  So, you know, this was probably not a guy who passed through every Secret Service check.
[01:30:03]  It was more like a guy who had hotel access, reached the edge of a secure zone, and was attacked at the checkpoint, which these things do happen.
[01:30:13]  Like, we can go through history and see, like, people who have tried to make attempts, and it's pretty, it overlaps in certain aspects with things like this.
[01:30:21]  Wow.
[01:30:22]  Well, so we've covered it.
[01:30:24]  I'm wiped.
[01:30:24]  I'm wiped as hell, too.

=== Lying About War Funding (03:10) ===

[01:30:26]  Oh, dude.
[01:30:27]  Today was intensive filming, today.
[01:30:29]  Today was intensive filming.
[01:30:30]  So, Yeah.
[01:30:31]  And you were sitting there.
[01:30:32]  So you've been there early because you were setting everything up.
[01:30:34]  I was at 7 30.
[01:30:35]  Yeah.
[01:30:36]  I woke up at 6, went straight to work, left work, picked up some stuff for the podcast, went to the podcast.
[01:30:43]  We were there for probably four hours.
[01:30:45]  I went back to work, worked another four hours, then I came directly here.
[01:30:49]  But I told somebody this the other day.
[01:30:53]  I don't mind it.
[01:30:54]  I love it.
[01:30:55]  I've got a question here.
[01:30:56]  I want to throw this up because here's the thing I would be more honored to at least make one of these people that hate us doubt.
[01:31:03]  A little bit and just consider their ideas than like convince a thousand people that already like us.
[01:31:08]  And we got Queen Poppy saying this in a completely unrelated matter, he sold his audience on the grifter Trump.
[01:31:13]  So he's in part responsible for the Iran BS, however, indirectly.
[01:31:17]  What did Trump run on, Queen Poppy?
[01:31:20]  Did he run on no new wars, no more neocon wars in the Middle East?
[01:31:24]  Were we fools to believe him?
[01:31:25]  Maybe.
[01:31:25]  I'm confused.
[01:31:26]  How is he responsible for being lied?
[01:31:28]  What's his argument here?
[01:31:30]  His argument here is that my dad got people to vote for Trump.
[01:31:33]  Therefore, he's responsible for the Iran war, which, you know.
[01:31:37]  Is true on its face, like we all were picked by Donald Trump.
[01:31:40]  Wait, wait, wait, wait.
[01:31:41]  We were lied to.
[01:31:42]  Okay.
[01:31:42]  So just to take Trump out of the equation, for any time you've ever voted, right?
[01:31:50]  Or whether you had a platform or not, how are you complicit in the act of if the president lies to you about whatever he campaigns on?
[01:31:59]  That happens across every single administration.
[01:32:02]  And here's the thing we had the biggest lies ever this time because the platform was actually positive.
[01:32:08]  Like, I don't know about you.
[01:32:09]  Queen Poppy.
[01:32:09]  I don't know if you're a Hillbot or a Democrat or whatever.
[01:32:11]  We don't ascribe a Democrat or Republican here, but we cared about ending the wars.
[01:32:16]  We cared about stopping the wars.
[01:32:17]  Kamala promised more funding to Ukraine, more bombings in Ukraine.
[01:32:22]  There's a reason he.
[01:32:23]  There's a reason he won the independent vote, too.
[01:32:26]  I was in the middle.
[01:32:27]  Yeah, he won almost every single swing state because everybody knew what to expect, or that's very quick.
[01:32:35]  Thought to expect.
[01:32:37]  We believed in the platform, and he just didn't have that platform.
[01:32:40]  Yeah, man.
[01:32:40]  So, like, it's just this insane standard of, like, if you're ever wrong about anything, you're evil, and you're also in part responsible for it.
[01:32:50]  And it's like we're all victims in this.
[01:32:52]  We've all been lied to by this political system.
[01:32:54]  Left, right, center, it doesn't matter anymore.
[01:32:56]  All these politicians are evil.
[01:32:58]  I'm glad that my dad has realized that about Trump.
[01:33:00]  It took a long time, too long, in my opinion.
[01:33:02]  I'm critical of that.
[01:33:04]  But at the end of the day, my dad doesn't like death.
[01:33:06]  He doesn't like little children being murdered.
[01:33:09]  And you might go, huh, you're talking about Sandy Hook.
[01:33:11]  You don't care about that at all.
[01:33:13]  Every day on the nightly news, across all mainstream media platforms, they cover up and advocate for child murder, ethnic cleansing, and multiple genocides.
[01:33:24]  They are never sued, they are never called out.
[01:33:26]  Your favorite podcasters, the knowledge fight people, will never do an episode on that, never even paralleling it to the Alex Jones thing, showing, hey, this happened.
[01:33:33]  So these people should be sued.
[01:33:35]  Where's that episode?

=== Steven's Elemental Drive View (05:09) ===

[01:33:36]  And in the entire runtime of the bottom feeding, notice how it doesn't exist because it's selective outrage.
[01:33:43]  That's what it is.
[01:33:44]  And we're pushing against the selective outrage narrative.
[01:33:46]  That's the whole ethos of Gray Area.
[01:33:49]  We don't subscribe to rage bait.
[01:33:51]  We don't just try to put positions to make you feel afraid.
[01:33:55]  Like we try to give you as much truth.
[01:33:57]  And I thought about this today.
[01:34:00]  You know, I really want this to just, this is, we're, I think we're aligned on this.
[01:34:05]  We want Gray Area to be more than just a talking show.
[01:34:07]  We want to grow this into our own sort of like network in a certain aspect.
[01:34:11]  Absolutely.
[01:34:12]  And that's the alternative media.
[01:34:13]  Yeah.
[01:34:13]  To where it becomes alternative media.
[01:34:16]  And I want this thing, just like Infowars, to be self funded.
[01:34:20]  And that's why I think I'm so, I think that's why I'm so proud of these products here.
[01:34:24]  Because if you own the fulfillment, if you own the manufacturing, if you have, The people who are benefiting from this, and you keep the whole ecosystem, then people cannot try to control you.
[01:34:40]  And we don't want to be controlled by anybody.
[01:34:43]  Queen Poppy, are you interested in zinc as zinc bacolonate, 25 milligrams, boron as boron citrate, 8 milligrams, selenium, 120 milligrams, or MCG, magnesium, copper, vitamin D3?
[01:34:57]  Would you like one of these?
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[01:35:01]  I'll pay for it.
[01:35:01]  I'll pay for it.
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[01:35:04]  Hell, I'll send you, I'll pay for two units, Tim.
[01:35:06]  I'll pay for two units.
[01:35:08]  I'll send it to you for free.
[01:35:09]  Comment under this feed.
[01:35:11]  I'll follow you.
[01:35:11]  I'll send you a DM.
[01:35:12]  You're like, oh, I'm scared to send an address, whatever.
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[01:35:15]  I would never want anything bad to ever happen to you or your family.
[01:35:18]  I would just like for you to get a good product that could improve your life.
[01:35:20]  So let me give you a supplement and tell us if it's snake oil, if it's fake, if it's garbage that doesn't do anything for you.
[01:35:28]  I like taking this stuff.
[01:35:29]  Every single person that I have talked to loves taking this stuff.
[01:35:32]  Absolutely.
[01:35:33]  I like taking it.
[01:35:34]  And the people who are even doing subscription for this, Reordering every single month because they're seeing the real positive benefits from it.
[01:35:43]  Yeah, and notice, notice, throw it up there really quick.
[01:35:46]  Nah, I'm cool.
[01:35:47]  And you see, they're not willing for the cognitive bias to be challenged.
[01:35:51]  See, I will give you free stuff.
[01:35:54]  Giving you free stuff.
[01:35:55]  Give an honest review and I'll send the testing on it, everything.
[01:35:57]  It's all okay.
[01:35:58]  It's all safe.
[01:35:59]  It's all great.
[01:36:00]  Like, especially, like, this is literally, like, you should, you're deficient in these.
[01:36:03]  Like, I guarantee you, use chronometer on your phone, track what you're deficient in one of these things.
[01:36:08]  If you want to take it, I give it to you for free.
[01:36:10]  But you see the total rejection.
[01:36:12]  The abject just hatred.
[01:36:15]  No, I'm all right.
[01:36:16]  I'm all right.
[01:36:17]  I'm trying to do you a favor right now, and you spit in my face.
[01:36:21]  Steven says it's working great for me.
[01:36:24]  Hey, Steven, why don't you put a comment?
[01:36:26]  What do you like about it?
[01:36:28]  I think you've been taking Elemental Drive.
[01:36:30]  Just throw a little quick comment so people understand how you've been benefiting from this.
[01:36:34]  All right, just go ahead and go up to that.
[01:36:36]  The supplements have some benefits.
[01:36:37]  Taking iodine all the time is BS.
[01:36:40]  I do agree iodine needs to be cycled and people shouldn't take it all the time, but throw that up really quick while we wait for Steven's review.
[01:36:47]  So the supplements have some benefits.
[01:36:49]  You're aware your favorite podcast calls it snake oil and accuses us of fraud for selling them, right?
[01:36:55]  So, like cognitive dissonance, you believe one thing, but then you subscribe to people that believe another.
[01:37:02]  Where does it stop?
[01:37:03]  Where does it end?
[01:37:04]  Same with the genocide, same with all of it.
[01:37:06]  You're not logically consistent.
[01:37:09]  You don't have an epistemic justification for your worldview.
[01:37:13]  It's subjective morality, which means it's chaos and propaganda.
[01:37:17]  It's nothing real.
[01:37:17]  Yes, 100%.
[01:37:19]  Oh, and.
[01:37:20]  Yeah, and just notice the ignoring, the ignoring won't address it.
[01:37:24]  Okay, so hold on.
[01:37:25]  So, let me.
[01:37:27]  Throw this up because for people who actually do want to try this out, we'll close out with this too.
[01:37:31]  Go ahead and use this.
[01:37:33]  Wes, can you throw the website up while we have it?
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[01:37:40]  This is going to allow you to try the product.
[01:37:44]  I'm actually going to come out with a discount that's even bigger than this because I really want people to start trying this stuff out.
[01:37:50]  Sure.
[01:37:51]  Yeah, Elemental Drive is like our bread and butter here.
[01:37:54]  This is what everybody just is enjoying.
[01:37:57]  Okay.
[01:37:58]  And you can find this.
[01:38:00]  Directly linked in every single one of our bios.
[01:38:02]  If you're on Gray Area, if you're on Rex's account, if you're on my account, it's all right there.
[01:38:08]  And that elemental drive, like everyone loves ashwagandha, takes ashwagandha.
[01:38:12]  That mineral blend, it's literally the best.
[01:38:15]  It's what you need.
[01:38:16]  Okay, this is what Steven said.
[01:38:18]  I've been taking most of this stuff before, except you couldn't find it all in one exactly.
[01:38:22]  You're going to buy like three or four different bottles, you're going to end up spending like 60 bucks.
[01:38:26]  Bunch of money.
[01:38:27]  Yeah.
[01:38:27]  Spending a bunch of money.
[01:38:28]  So look, If you want to support this independent operation outside of everything else and you love what we're doing here and what we're trying to accomplish with this specific network, just try it out.
[01:38:41]  Yeah.
[01:38:43]  And if you don't like it, contact us.

=== One On One Community Love (04:47) ===

[01:38:46]  We'll make it right.
[01:38:47]  We'll figure it out.
[01:38:48]  Yeah, we'll figure it out.
[01:38:49]  I'm not here to grift off the people.
[01:38:50]  Yeah, and Queen Poppy, offer stands forever.
[01:38:54]  Seriously, I'll buy the units.
[01:38:57]  I'll literally pay market price for them.
[01:39:00]  I'll put like 60 bucks in for both of the products and I'll send it to you.
[01:39:05]  But, like, how do you say no to that?
[01:39:06]  Like, saying no to that is just saying, I reject you and I won't even give you a chance to win me over.
[01:39:13]  And it's just the thing is, they can't accept the deal because then it would invalidate the hatred of my dad's business model.
[01:39:22]  So, like, hey, it is what it is.
[01:39:25]  It is what it is.
[01:39:26]  Here's the thing, ultimately, I know we're going long here.
[01:39:28]  I know we want to end it.
[01:39:29]  No, no, I'm good.
[01:39:29]  But this is about, this isn't just about us talking, or it isn't, it is not about us talking into a room with a camera to some massive audience.
[01:39:37]  This is about us talking to you guys one on one.
[01:39:40]  This is a one on one conversation or two on one, technically, but we take breaks and whatever.
[01:39:45]  But this is a one on one conversation between you, the home viewer, and then us.
[01:39:50]  And it's our job to just talk and present our positions and ideas.
[01:39:54]  And it's your job to decide whether that means anything to you.
[01:39:57]  And if it doesn't mean anything to you at all, why are you here commenting hate?
[01:40:01]  Yeah.
[01:40:02]  You see what I'm saying?
[01:40:03]  Like, just.
[01:40:04]  Can't please everybody is what I realized.
[01:40:06]  Dude, One Piece is an amazing show.
[01:40:08]  I've been really enjoying One Piece.
[01:40:10]  You could just go watch One Piece.
[01:40:11]  You know, but you're in here and you won't even take the free product.
[01:40:15]  It's wild.
[01:40:16]  And that's what we deal with.
[01:40:17]  How do you ever get someone to hear your side?
[01:40:19]  Yeah, man.
[01:40:20]  It's wild.
[01:40:20]  But good show, guys.
[01:40:21]  Great show.
[01:40:22]  We love you guys.
[01:40:24]  Thank you, as always, for joining us.
[01:40:28]  This week's schedule is going to be a little bit weird.
[01:40:31]  Thursday, we're going to be live.
[01:40:33]  That's going to happen.
[01:40:37]  Sunday is going to be weird because I am flying back.
[01:40:40]  Well, actually, I'm flying to Miami.
[01:40:42]  Maybe we can pre record.
[01:40:44]  Either that, or maybe we'll just do a live on a different day to kind of make up for that.
[01:40:50]  We could do, when do we leave?
[01:40:53]  We leave on Friday.
[01:40:54]  Okay.
[01:40:54]  We could do a.
[01:40:56]  I mean, here's the thing.
[01:40:57]  How about we just do this?
[01:40:58]  How about we figure this out anyway?
[01:41:00]  I figured it out.
[01:41:01]  I think it has a nice ring to it.
[01:41:02]  Tuesdays with Tim.
[01:41:04]  You'll do American Journal with me on Tuesday, and then maybe we could do a special night episode where it's just like a deep dive or like documentary or something like that.
[01:41:12]  Yeah, I'd be down for that.
[01:41:14]  I got nothing going on on Tuesday.
[01:41:16]  Also, I've been thinking about it.
[01:41:18]  We'll talk about this some other time.
[01:41:21]  Eventually, we're going to start increasing the amount of.
[01:41:25]  Lives that we're doing for Gray Area because we want to make sure that we're here for you guys.
[01:41:30]  And we know you guys are enjoying the episodes and we enjoy them just as much.
[01:41:35]  We're just trying to get everything together so that this machine and this baby runs so that way we can just give you the best content as possible.
[01:41:44]  So couldn't have said it better myself.
[01:41:46]  Okay.
[01:41:47]  Well, thank you guys.
[01:41:50]  Somebody threw in the last minute super chat.
[01:41:53]  Gotta read it.
[01:41:53]  Roll Tide.
[01:41:55]  Roll Tide.
[01:41:56]  On the top row.
[01:41:57]  Let's go.
[01:41:57]  All right, let's see.
[01:41:58]  Oh, we got a 10?
[01:41:59]  Thanks for a fun show.
[01:42:00]  Mosh Mary, I'm going to honestly, Mosh Mary, do me a favor.
[01:42:07]  DM me on X. I'm going to send, we're going to send you out some Primal Core.
[01:42:11]  Yeah.
[01:42:11]  I think you've been really supportive and you deserve.
[01:42:16]  And that doesn't diminish anything else anybody else has been doing.
[01:42:20]  We appreciate it.
[01:42:21]  You've been like, you've been super chat.
[01:42:22]  So, thunder.
[01:42:23]  Every chat, I think I either see him and then there's another person.
[01:42:27]  I think it's her.
[01:42:28]  I think it's a shirt.
[01:42:28]  There's another person.
[01:42:30]  I need to put a.
[01:42:31]  A list together of our top super chatters and supporters, and we're going to be rolling that once a week so that we can give your flowers.
[01:42:40]  Okay, another super chat.
[01:42:43]  Wow, we love you guys.
[01:42:44]  They don't want us to leave, yeah.
[01:42:46]  They want us to come, they don't want us to leave.
[01:42:48]  We love you guys.
[01:42:48]  Hold on, these take a little bit.
[01:42:50]  Okay, we got a 10 with no comment from ADUB from LW.
[01:42:55]  No comment, come on, Adub, dude.
[01:42:57]  Thank you so much, thank you for the support.
[01:43:00]  Really appreciate the support.
[01:43:02]  All right, and here's the thing, guys.
[01:43:03]  Like, this is all organic.
[01:43:04]  This is all real.
[01:43:05]  We're literally just in my dining room right now.
[01:43:07]  We're going to sign off.
[01:43:08]  We'll see you.
[01:43:09]  Yeah.
[01:43:09]  Thank you.
[01:43:10]  Love you.
[01:43:10]  Take care.
[01:43:11]  Give me a follow on X, okay?
[01:43:12]  Truism.
[01:43:13]  Damn, let's go.
[01:43:14]  All right, see you guys.
[01:43:33]  Modern