Rex Jones and Tim Tompkins dissect a Special Forces soldier's $400,000 insider bet on Maduro's capture and debunk Trump's false claims of total victory against Iran. They analyze the SPLC's alleged fraud for funding violent extremists like the KKK to manufacture conflict, arguing both political sides are bankrolled by same entities to divide Americans. The hosts critique Trump's cognitive decline, discuss immigration policy failures under Biden, and promote GoPrimalCore supplements before announcing an upcoming "America First" convention in Columbus. Ultimately, the episode suggests modern polarization stems from coordinated narratives rather than genuine ideological differences. [Automatically generated summary]
And then Rold kind of ended up doing a debate before the show.
I mean, I appreciate the guy who debated Rylan at least being honest about his position, right?
And then you can actually have a debate where the people, the debate really is not between the two people.
It's the people in the audience listening, making up their what you say.
So, like, I'm anti war, I'm pro what the founding fathers said, I consider myself to be a believer in the republic.
He thinks that, like, we're imperial now, we're an empire, and that my worldview is kind of like bleeding heart, and that, you know, war crime can be justified if it means defending national security, which is kind of the thing I argue about all the time on the show.
So, it was actually nice to listen to someone say, Yes, actually, we have the mandate to kill, versus the quartering who believes the exact same stuff.
As that guy did, but he wouldn't say it.
So I do appreciate intellectual honesty when we can find it.
The thing is, for Jeremy, I think he would do better if he actually adopted these positions because I think that there's backing for these positions.
I think that's part of the reason why people hold them.
But I thought it went well.
Obviously, the main thing to deal with is you've got to have all your sources in a binder laid out, or else people will say, That they're not real.
And like one of those things that he was questioning, because I didn't have the correct number of the plane or whatever, was the iconic Jonathan Pollard clip that me and you have played multiple times on the show.
The main thing is that you do have to be like a little Ben Shapiro and you do have to know every single factoid perfectly because even if it's real and if you say it and it's real, if you don't have exact bullet point sourcing, they'll show you don't know what you're talking about.
And that's a logical fallacy in and of itself.
But for the people listening, it is important to have kind of like instant recall.
And that's part of the reason why, you know, like we've been doing so many shows.
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I mean, look, I'm not a censorship type of guy, but there are certain circumstances where it's just like.
Net positive and net negative for society.
And Clav being on there, like doping up, openly admitting, like if you're silent, like a lot of these other guys who are doped up on streams and stuff like that, they're not openly all the time saying, like, oh, I'm on, you know, all these different things.
The thing is to me, and here's the thing people are like, why are you talking about it?
Well, it's the thing the youth are fascinated by, right?
And it's kind of the example of like, oh, what the ideal is.
I suppose people, plenty of people see this, they say, oh, He's got money, he's got fame, he's an important guy now.
I want to be like X.
And what you're talking about, Tim, I mean, the thing to me that's shocking about clavicular is clavicular will like walk around with his bodyguards and he will literally be like out on his feet, like off so much ketamine or whatever.
And there's so many videos of this.
And it would make sense to me, you know.
And here's the thing I'm against all censorship, I am against all banning.
I think he should be allowed to do it.
If I ran you, he'd be allowed to do it.
But for a platform that has, Children and has other people that are minors that may be seeking this out.
Maybe it's not the best idea to have him openly OD in 4K and then have the Australian guy offer him Adderall in order to wake him up like a Mario mushroom.
I was kind of looking into this to try to understand because it's not like he came out of nowhere in the last year, right?
I had never heard of this guy's name ever.
So he did multiple things.
The first one is he partnered with Kick.
Kick has a program, like a Kick partner program, where they're literally pumping hundreds of thousands of dollars into campaigns for specific creators.
So, yeah, I mean, it's basically he's got this whole clips channels where they have like forums where there are people who get paid to clip.
And so, what you'll see is like if you watch a video of Clab, often it has like a little kick logo in the bottom.
It's because they're campaigns that are literally trying to draw traffic into kick, also paying the person because they're bringing in traffic to kick and they're trying to make a competition.
So, like, I mean, their budget is literally like millions of dollars a month just to do this, right?
And the deal is like, I think it's like an 80 20 split.
Like he's taking 80% of the revenue and the 20% is going to the girl.
But like, again, for some of these girls, I guess it's worth it because think about how much money they're making just by being on his stream and then also running ads for them.
And that's the thing is like the hypersexuality is pushed on everybody from a very young age.
And like, here's the thing you're being sold that because that's like the only thing that's allowed to be cool because it doesn't, because it's not against the power structure.
But let's go to Special Forces Soldier makes the call she bet on Maduro.
Let's go to the New York Post article.
And then I got a really good tweet with a Trump clip and him talking.
So, if we want to go ahead and display that, US Special Forces soldier used secret intel for 400K winning Polymarket bet on Venezuelan dictator Maduro's capture.
Well, the thing is, is like I forget the classic terminology, but it's like, oh, you like always got to like blame one guy and be like, oh, we're morally correct because we caught one dude and we're gonna punish him.
I mean, they're all doing it, like they're all, man.
Exactly, the fall guy.
He's the fall guy.
100% right.
It's just, oh, we got it.
Problem's over now, boys.
And you look at this, and like, poly market is crazy.
Prediction markets are insane.
But you look at Lutnick, knowing the tariffs would be struck down, profiting billions of dollars just at the low level and the high level fraud.
This is also something I talked about in the debate with Ryland.
Operation to capture Venezuelan dictator Maduro to place winning bets on Polymarket and pocket more than 400 grand.
Master Sergeant Gannon Ken Van Dyke, crazy name.
Very cool, was directly involved in the planning and execution of Operation Absolute Resolve, the dangerous January 3rd. Special Forces raid on Maduro's compound in Caracas and had access to sensitive, non public, classified information about the operation.
According to the Justice Department, a week before the raid, Van Dyke 38 allegedly placed more than 33 grand in wagers on Poly Market.
Well, you know, we got to take out a mortgage.
We got to sell the truck.
We got to do what we can.
We got to make that bed as big as possible because it's going to hit.
Um, made over 400k, 400k, 409,000 from the bets and took steps to conceal his identity and winnings, placing his ill gotten proceedings into foreign cryptocurrency accounts.
Well, he didn't count on Kash Patel getting extra drunk over the weekend and realizing he had to make up for the work he didn't do.
So, Kash Patel came in hot and found his ass.
You got to make sure you do stuff like this when Cash is sober so he doesn't care.
So, if they're able to catch this guy, right, because the whole name of the game was crypto and he tried to do it like everyone else, surely we could find the other people doing this.
Mr. President, apparently there was a special forces soldier who was involved in the capture of Venezuelan President Maduro who was arrested by federal authorities today on the decision of insider trading and betting on the polling market.
Are you concerned that federal employees are betting on these prediction markets and potentially getting rich?
I was probably like, you know, like 10 or 11 years old when I discovered, like, fantasy sports.
And I never played that or was interested in that.
But I remember being maybe in late elementary, early middle school period, and learning that people did this and kind of constructed these teams to win raffles or whatever.
That then graduated into real money.
And then that graduated into full on sports betting that we see today.
So it's been crazy to see that on billboards.
Imagine, as a kid, you'd never see anything like that.
It's like the encouragement of debauchery is kind of strange to me now.
And I think if you think about it, it's a progression.
It's been like a slow degradation where you normalize and you expose somebody to something enough that it becomes something that's not so crazy or astronomical.
Well, and the thing is, is like, if he was telling at least like a facsimile of the truth, if he was like, we've massively degraded their air defense, it's still some of it's there, but almost all of it's gone, that would be more acceptable.
He just goes out there and lies to the American people and says basically the war is over.
And the war's not over.
So, like, that means they still have military capability.
So, no matter how many times you repeat the lie, Well, you know how it works.
Like, I got to read one of his books sometime because I know he talks about it where he's like, you basically ingratiate whatever you're trying to say to the fullest extent so that people just go with it, even if it's not completely true.
No, I mean, it's just part of his speaking tactics.
They have all new leadership and they're fighting like cats and dogs for who's going to control because we've created a real mess for them, but they've created a mess for the world over the last 47 years.
They've killed a lot of our people.
When you see a soldier, a young person or now an older person, but a person without legs or without arms or with a face that got blown to pieces, most likely it was from Iran.
It was Soleimani who I killed.
Soleimani loved the roadside bomb.
He was an evil genius.
He was a brilliant general.
Probably we wouldn't be as far advanced had I not taken him out.
That was the beginning of it all.
And then I ended the Obama horror show.
The nuclear transaction that he made was horrible.
It gave him a road to the, you call it, I mean, the deal that he did, the Iran nuclear deal, was so bad.
It gave him a road to a nuclear weapon.
And I will tell you, I deal with him.
You cannot give Iran a nuclear weapon.
This is all about a nuclear weapon.
They cannot have the nuclear bomb, and they're not going to have the nuclear bomb.
So we've taken out their military.
We've hit about 75% of our targets.
We stopped a little early because they wanted to have some peace.
Okay, so one thing I'm so confused about this conflict, and maybe you are too, is okay, there's another ceasefire, and I'm getting like whiplash right now because it's just.
It's like green light, red light, green light, red light.
And you're like, I don't know where we're at, you know?
Well, that's the thing, it's like the 1,000-time fakeout.
And, like, obviously, we're going to go back in there.
I reposted this thing of, like, this rabbi again on Fox News talking about, like, we have to go get what we have no choice.
America has to go in and get all of the quote unquote uranium.
And that seems to be, like, that's what's in Trump's mind is this, like, fast and the furious, like, uh, then diesel movie where they, like, fly the excavators in and get this stuff out.
And, like, that's that's required, I think, in any peace deal because of the Israelis, because the Israelis demand it.
So I don't know how we get to that point.
Maybe it is all.
You know, a grand imperial game and Iran is about to give up.
But according to all the facts on the ground, the things that we've seen, I don't think so.
You know, so like, if something is currently happening and you never wanted it to happen in the first place, and the thing happening has resulted in objectively bad things for our country, people are like, oh, we're going to continue doing the thing because it's going to generate better results later.
And so it's weird because you're looking at all these videos, the speech that he's talking about, the soldier, this one is also all I think in the same time frame as him falling asleep, right?
We continue our work on negotiating international trade agreements.
59 days after we stood in this office and President Trump, standing with Albert Borla from Pfizer, announced the first of the 17 MFN deals, together with our colleagues from the Department of Commerce under Secretary Lutnick's leadership and from the U.S. Trade Representative's office under the leadership of Ambassador Greer, We negotiated a landmark agreement with him.
Government of the United Kingdom, in which they agreed to increase significantly the amount that they spend on branded pharmaceuticals for the first time in 26 years.
That work continues with other countries.
And third, we will continue our work with our partners in Congress to codify the principles that underpin these most favored nation deals so that these savings for American families and this innovation that is unleashed at the same time persist for decades to come.
But I mean, here's the thing this is why, and I was so happy to elaborate this further with you on Hodge Twins that comes out tomorrow, that episode on Friday, hopefully, probably.
That we don't need senior citizens in our government.
It's a liability.
And you talked about, I think you chatted this morning.
We should definitely do a deep dive on this as well.
I think it's something that needs to be talked about.
Cognitive decline after the age of 60, it's just like, right?
Well, what you're laying down right now is precisely why I hate the notion of the team so much because Trump is supposed to have basically an army of people around him that are supposed to implement his agenda, right?
So, what do you do when you appoint people that are all corrupt based off of hundreds of millions of dollars that you receive from Miriam Adels and other people, and then you don't even know what's going on?
You don't even know what your own agenda is.
And you're literally the thing I think about, Tim, what you're talking about, it resonates with me a lot.
I think about them too being dinosaurs.
I mean, think about Trump.
This is something that's very key.
Talk about cognitive decline.
A big factor of that is actually melatonin production, right?
So, like, if you know old people, like grandparents or stuff, like my grandparents, they go to bed super early and they wake up really early as well because you lose that sleep quality.
So, Trump is literally probably getting between like three to four hours of sleep a day.
And that's being very generous, probably like nap time portions.
And he literally wakes up, and like you've seen Lord of the Rings, right?
When Frodo puts on the ring, it's all like the wispy, like creepy land.
Well, like that's what drug detox feels like.
And that's also what being awake too long feels like.
Maybe he needs to discover that or Kava or something.
You know, get some iceberg lettuce in the diet.
You know, maybe some fiber.
Maybe that would help.
But it's a key point to make is like, this is like a cartoon.
Of how you would run the country.
You would have a senior citizen who only eats McDonald's and only drinks Diet Coke awake for like 20 hours out of every single day being led around by a gang of thieves and criminals.
Yeah, Twitter is so horrible because you can't zoom in properly.
Okay, here we go.
Welcome to the Savage Nation.
Today's brief abbreviated discussion will be about the arguments.
This is Michael Savage, I believe.
The arguments that I just listened to before the Supreme Court about birthright citizenship.
I was somewhat incensed by listening to the arguments because all I heard was legalese being bandied back and forth.
And quite noticeable to me was that the person bringing the arguments in favor of flooding America with legal aliens to change the demographics forever was a Chinese American who looks to me like the classic ACLU attorney very smart, very evil, and very devious.
The ACLU is the head of the snake.
They have been forever, and there they were again trying to turn America into a cesspool.
We all know that these arguments should not be conducted in the abstract of a courtroom.
This is really not about law, this is about public opinion.
It's okay.
I can read it from there.
That's fine.
Let me find where I was.
This is about public opinion.
Now, if I could start arguing about the Constitution itself, and I'll run into a stone wall with you.
We can't modify the Constitution because it's written in stone.
And if we do, they take away our First and Second Amendment because that's what they do.
So that's the problem.
The Constitution was written before air travel, needless to say, before television, before the internet, before radio.
And you could say, how relevant are some of these arguments when people are coming here by airplane in the ninth month of their pregnancy?
And then they try to bring an entire family in from China or India or some other hellhole on the planet.
You don't have to go too far to see that.
English is not spoken here anymore.
There's almost no loyalty to this country amongst the immigrant class coming in today.
I mean, Trump is bringing everybody in.
Like, what is the, this is just bullshit signaling where he's just like, I'm racist.
And he's not, he's letting everyone in, which is not always the case.
No, they're not like the European Americans of today and their ancestors.
The Irish integrated, the Italians integrated, the Polish integrated, Lithuanians, the Romanians, the Russians, they all integrated and became Americans in the melting pot.
The only thing that you can point to specifically, you okay?
Let me let me clarify here.
Okay, so I lived in you know, I've lived in Connecticut, they have a place called Little Italy where it's all the Italians practicing the same Italian cuisines.
The best pizza you ever heard, the best pizza in Connecticut, best pizza in the United States is Connecticut.
It's because the Italians live there.
So for him to say that.
Has no merit because each immigrant that comes from whatever country finds a spot and they preserve some of their culture.
That's a normal thing.
And most people do assimilate.
Like, I'm going to be honest, like, you know, as much as crap as people give Mexicans, they do a lot of stuff, you know, and they're like, they're super pro American.
I've seen them, they're like, they got the banners and the flags and, you know, they do a lot of the stuff that's like hard labor.
And it's like, I don't know where he's going with that.
And that's my main issue we go on this big giant screed, and the screed is bullshit because if you actually wanted to get the illegal immigrants out of here, you would just make it so they can't get a car, they can't get a house, and they can't work.
So then they have to go home.
And all that would take is the passage of very simple executive orders to do that.
But they'll never do that because it's actually not the goal of people like this to do that.
Trump and all of his friends, when they were cracking down on the immigration initially, when they were deporting people, Trump goes, Whoa, I've got a lot of friends in hospitality and agriculture.
And if these people go away, they're screwed.
So we're not going to be doing that anymore.
So I look at this as just complete, like, he thinks that he can literally not even write something himself.
But take something, steal something that Michael Savage did, and he's like, Look, this is my policy.
And it's like, It's not your policy, Donald.
You actually do the opposite of these things, and it's just another lie.
You don't actually care about any of these things.
Yeah, and the last thing I'll say, and we can go back to it, is had he at least gone after the criminals and the people that were actually doing crime and getting booked and then getting released again, I would have said that was the lowest hanging fruit that you could have done.
Even if you can't get every single person because it is pretty hard to deport that many people, objectively speaking.
I didn't vote for the Nazi police to shoot American citizens in the street and then go, oh, we're doing it in the name of getting the illegals out.
ICE would never be able to get all the illegals out.
Do you know how many illegals there are?
You make it so they can't work over here.
It's incredibly simple.
It's like, you don't support patriots getting them out of our country.
What you're doing is making sure.
That the immigrant population will take over the country because now the goodwill of the people, they see people running around in mass shooting American citizens doing these things.
You can go, oh, the context of it, they're heroes, they're getting the illegal immigrant criminal, whatever.
You don't have to do that.
You just make it illegal to live and work here so they have to go home.
Yeah, and the problem is, we also have a broken immigration system to where no one has seriously addressed it either.
You know, the time that it takes to get a Application process could be years.
But by the time you actually, like for the people who legitimately are coming over here, right?
Like there are legitimate people who are coming over here for asylum.
Like they were afraid their families were literally like bashed in by the cartel or something like that.
There are exceptions to the rule that it would make sense.
Not everybody all at once, but to go through the pipeline of like applying for it properly, going through the asylum process, making sure that that person's safe, vetted.
But a lot of people aren't getting the court dates quick enough.
So they're like, oh, we'll just skip the line anyways.
We'll just come over here.
And I didn't like how Biden incentivized it to just be like, okay, well, we'll just let people come over here instead of just addressing the border issue and the system.
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That's maybe he sunk millions, millions, and millions, perhaps even more of dollars into this organization.
This organization is an organization that purports to fight white supremacy and racial supremacy extremism and white Christian nationalism and all this stuff.
You remember under Biden, right?
That white nationalism was like the greatest threat to the country.
So, turns out that all the people with the tiki torches and the KKK and the American Nazi Party and the American Front, all these organizations, turns out they've been receiving millions of dollars from the SPLC.
We're stuck in this negative feedback loop to where, you know, I know there's a lot of black people.
I'm black, of course.
I'm in part of these conversations.
I hear it all the time about what happened in the past.
You've got slavery, you've got all these different things, right?
Understood.
For me, I'm not really a victim mentality where I'm like, well, I should just get reparations without doing any work.
I'm more so like, okay, well, just because you say that doesn't mean that I can't do something about it now.
But the problem I also have is there's some legitimacy to certain people.
There's always fringe elements of people who are racist in every single demographic, right?
And so, my issue is when we kind of marginalize in the opposite way and just be like, okay, well, Rex and any other white guy, just because you're white makes you racist.
And then it's like it kicks off the feedback loop because for you and the average person, you're going to be like, whoa, what?
When in reality, we're all here now, we're all here in the country now, and it's going to shit.
And we all have the same rights, and we got to fix it.
You know, in order for things to get better, we actually have to be able to think positively about the future.
And that's what I think this whole show is about.
I mean, here's the thing talk about reparations.
We're all owed reparations from our government because our government was supposed to protect us and take care of us and build an actual country for us.
We're here today to announce what the general just told you.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, in a massive sweeping indictment, has been charged with allegations of fraud and using the banking system to perpetrate that fraud.
I just want to talk about a couple of brief things here.
The Southern Poverty Law Center themselves advertise to raise money to dismantle violent extremist groups for a period of at least a decade.
They use their donor network to raise money.
To purportedly dismantle violent extremist groups.
However, the SPLC, the Southern Property Law Center, used the money they raised from their donor network to actually pay the leadership of these very groups.
I just want to say that again.
They used the fraudulently raised money by lying to their donor network, thousands of Americans, to go ahead and actually pay the leadership of these supposed violent extremist groups.
The groups, as the general laid out, include the Ku Klux Klan, the United Clans of America, Unite to write.
The National Socialist Movement, the Aryan Nation Motorcycle Club, and the National Socialist Party of America.
And also the American Front.
In at least one of these matters, our investigation revealed that funds were used to facilitate the commission of further state and federal offenses, totaling over $3 million.
Furthermore, our investigation revealed that the Southern Poverty Law Center, on top of perpetuating this widespread, decade long, multi million dollar fraud, conducted more criminal activity.
They attempted to hide.
Their criminal activity from our financial banking network.
They set up shell companies and entities around America so that the financial institutions that we rely on as everyday Americans were deceived in believing that money was not coming from the Southern Poverty Law Center in the perpetration of this scheme and fraud, but rather fictitious entities they stood up to perpetuate this ongoing fraud.
This is a serious and egregious violation of a group that purported to dismantle violent extremist groups, but in turn actually only fueled the hatred.
This is an important case brought by the president by President Trump's administration.
We're thankful to the president for his leadership and funding of not just the FBI.
So the Chunguses walking around are supposed to be white nationalists.
Here's the thing I've met real neo Nazis because I've been at many of these protests for a decade plus.
I know what these people look like.
They are real, they do exist.
A lot of the people in that crowd are like Redditors.
That's what I see, to be honest with you.
And these people are protesting against them, but you have to understand.
This entire thing was an organized flashpoint to create an event where they could be like, look at what these people are, referring to the white population of the country, when in fact it's not representative of them.
Like, you have to pay people basically to show up.
The FBI came out on record when they were questioned about it in Congress, and they were like, hey, well, how many federal informants were on the ground working for you on J6?
And they said, we can't answer that question.
They later came out and answered it.
The number they gave was around 250.
So that was used to incite people to riot.
That's what they do.
They get people like that Ray Epps guy screaming for violence and all of it.
Like, I know tons of people that were there on J6.
It was never supposed to be that.
They got people agitated and they pointed them in a direction.
Think about it though, but that's a deeper point, right?
Because you talk about the betrayal.
I would view January 6th as the ultimate betrayal because he told the people to meet him at the Capitol.
That is why the people went to the Capitol, is because Trump told them to go there.
And you look at this event where you have these 250 or so, or however many there are, the FBI wouldn't say, but they confirmed they were there.
You have these agitators doing these things.
They want these events to happen.
And that's the thing Anthony Graffio, he's got a lot of wild, off the wall theories.
But the things these people do, and the result, which is most important, the result of all of these historical events is usually just to give the government more power or to create a narrative for someone to argue with later.
It's never like, Inorganic event where people are trying to actually something, even if it's bad or good, it doesn't matter.
Well, I think there might be in the mix like genuine organic movements for certain things, and then they can get hijacked like a virus, basically, and turn it into something else.
The famous thing to come out of this was Trump gave an address where he talked about the Charlottesville riots.
This was a big deal.
And they said that Trump said that there were fine people on both sides.
Trump did say that, but they cut the quote short and he says, and by no means do I mean the white nationalists and the Nazis or whatever who should be condemned totally.
So that's what he said, but they misrepresented him in media and they still do it.
They still do it to this day, like 10 years later, after this happens.
This is why you have people delusionally defend Trump, is because you have these attacks that are not real and they go, oh, well, this attack is not real.
They lied about what he said.
They must be lying about everything else.
And then that's how you build the cult, and that's how you get the cue.
And I'm just, you know, it's so very interesting because I've lived in both worlds where, like, I've got one foot being, you know, hood, whatever you call it, you know, ghetto.
I have that side to me, what I've grown up in.
And then I've been around very affluent, and I've lived in that lifestyle at the same time.
And it's just, it's just, I see the argument for both sides in certain circumstances, depending on what you're talking about.
I mean, there are legitimately people in poverty who have just been born into like a generational bad behavior.
So, let me shed light on this.
Like, I have cousins, for example, where, you know, either the dad wasn't there or they were just born into a broken home.
And that's because their dad or their mother also was born into a broken home.
And so the thing is, is like if you keep following the trail of like the broken homes and where it traces back, eventually you're going to have to get to slavery, but you have to go back so far for that to be the case.
And so the problem is, is when you hold so much on the past, where no one up till now lives or exists now, there's no solution when you try to say, like, oh, well, I just, I deserve something or like just make it work.
You have to start at a young age.
You can't just give adults a bunch of money and just think that like that's going to fix the problem.
You have to start generationally.
So you've got to take, you know, The kid that was in a bad school, like you don't want to go to certain public schools in New Haven, Connecticut, or Bridgeport, Connecticut.
Like they're awful, you know, and I'm sure Texas has their own version of that.
But you have to be able to take the education part, you have to train those kids to make better decisions because often they come from a broken household.
So, like for me, I'm a person who happened to have both parents in the household.
And my mom was very centric and focused on education.
So I became an exception to the rule, but there's not enough of that to be able to change it.
I think a lot of people, really, of all backgrounds, can empathize with that because it is a generational cycle thing.
And that's kind of what's going on with the country the boomers have inflicted generational trauma on all of us.
That's kind of what we're dealing with right now.
It's like we have.
These people that want to make us live in a past century.
And we're in the 2020s now.
We're in 2026.
We want flying cars.
We want affordable stuff for everybody.
We want a prosperous society.
And there's like this it's almost like there's a scarcity mindset like, oh, if I don't get mine, or yeah, if I don't get mine, no one's going to get theirs.
Well, we have to be in a mindset of lifting each other up instead of tearing each other down.
And really, the government has been the biggest culprit in making sure that Americans of all groups, but particularly Black Americans, Have suffered, especially look at Reagan and the drug stuff and all of it.
I mean, there were coordinated programs to destroy families.
And they got all these holes for people to fall in, whether that's pornography, whether that's porn or porn, whether that's debt, you know, whether that is a welfare.
Welfare, welfare, and they want to get you into one of these systems when in reality we need to build our own system where we lift each other up.
Well, just think about how messed up, and we can keep going, but think about how messed up welfare is.
The moment that you make over a certain dollar amount, you use all your benefits.
You know, I've had family that's been in welfare before, and you know, the difference between making $200 more over that threshold is not significant, you know.
But here we are, you know, LBJ decided, well, that's the plan, that's what we're going to do.
And so there was never a backup plan for these things.
Yeah, and when you've got people who want to be anonymous, it almost creates like a superpower in you to just completely destroy stuff because you feel like, oh, I've got anonymity and I can't be touched.
So, what I see is like videos like this will be taken and they'll use it as justification to show, like, oh, This is happening in America and you should be afraid.
It's the same thing on the other side.
Like, what's like a pretty, I mean, we'll just take X because X is pretty predominantly lean towards one side.
It's skewed towards the right and conservative.
They'll take a video of people breaking in during a BLM protest and breaking the windows and stuff.
They'll take that snapshot and be like, your life is in trouble.
And that's because it's a fake conflict because the people of the country I mean, even if you are a bigot, you got a job, you got taxes, you got a family, right?
Nobody has the time to do this crazy shit.
It's people that are out there because they're either professional rioters or agitators, they're mentally ill, or it's both, and they're all getting paid.
Saying, well, it's like you know, like they and my dad gave this example on the show, and he's citing a real case.
It's like, well, the FBI goes to a trailer park with like 50 grand, and they meet a guy, and like, look, we need you to go put on a clan hood and say, you hate the N words, you hate the black people.
He goes, Well, I kind of like black people, I don't have a problem with them, but my kid needs surgery, and the other one needs braces, so I guess I'll say, How Hitler.
And like, that's you prey on like the most desperate people.
Antifa is very similar, they'll prey on people that are drug addicts, people that have no families.
This is all on record, we've talked about this for decades straight.
They find somebody that's in desperate need or has some desperate hateful ideology, and they amplify that and they run that in one of their paradigms of control, one of their systems, their programs.
Well, and if you tell somebody, and I'm not a conspiracy theorist, you know me, but if you tell somebody, hey, you're not going to get arrested for this or basically for this, yeah, or something like that, I don't really hear the aftermath of what happens to these people if you think about it.
Who thinks that she's giving, you know, like a part of her social security money every month to like fight against the KKK and they're literally, they take the money from her and they give it to a guy in a hood.
Like, that's, that's, it's, that's not an exaggeration.
Sure, and that's well, that's the thing, that's what's so sick and insidious about it is they take that actual real emotion.
This is what I talk about always they need to have a positive, genuine emotion, like a positive moral response to something, or a negative, like something.
Based on your moral structure, and then they attach it to something parasitic and they use that positive emotion kind of as like a funnel or like a mosquito needle to like bleed you.
And then that they do because you're like, I'm passionate, what I'm doing is correct, I'm fighting the power, I'm fighting against the evil that I know.
When in reality, you're fighting against you know this straw man that the real evil set up.
Remember, I did that whole segment on misinformation, right?
Sure, we're talking about race here, but now like.
You get into topics like religion, you get into these world politics, you get into these situations that are happening.
Those are also susceptible to the same things.
You know, all the fighting between the Jewish people and the Palestinians and the Americans who were either on one side or the other about this particular issue.
Same thing happens there, right?
I mean, there are bad actors on both sides, right?
I'm not going to sit there and say, like, I love Netanyahu.
He's doing the best thing ever.
No, I'm not going to say that, right?
But some of the extra stuff that's coming from, you know, there are some people who do take the narrative too far.
I've seen it where they, like, lump all the Jewish people and they start doing crazy stuff, like, where it's no longer like the anti Zionist, it's like just.
Attack a Jewish person, whether or not they like you, don't even know what their position is.
I feel like a lot of that is set up and controlled.
And I think that's kind of the point that we're all getting to is like all the stuff you see online, like all the hardcore hate, they want to push you towards an irredeemable ideology so then you can't argue for something good.
And all I ask is everybody who's watching this, if you just look at the echo chamber of X, whatever the spirit of what's come out, again, we, we, I've covered the algorithms.
I've covered like a third of the accounts on X are potentially bots.
Like, that's a very real thing being reported.
And so there's a lot of manufactured consent.
And this is the consensus of what people are feeling.
Yeah, and all I'm saying is like, there are legitimate cases where, like, yes, Netanyahu's gone out and done something that was atrocious and it's a bad situation.
Or America has gone out and done something that's atrocious, right?
Yeah, I think a big portion of that also is like us bombing them.
I do agree.
Like, I talked about this with Ryland, though.
And like the thing about the death to America, you start to understand it a lot more when you look at the Iraq Iran war.
You look at the fact that like we gave Saddam Hussein chemical weapons and he killed 400,000 of them, which is pretty crazy to think about.
But I do agree with the fact that, like, the state likes that narrative and they want to keep that narrative alive because that means that people are patriotic and they're going to support the war.
So it's the same way that we do it here in America.
And that's the thing, really, is like, aside from the Palestinians, who I really empathize with, and I do think that is a Star Wars story, you don't see Star Wars stories in the world.
You see two groups that each one of them has an interest and they're at war with each other, and there's good, there's bad.
Usually it's mostly bad.
And that's the thing that we like to change.
Wouldn't it be cool if we could talk about infrastructure, if we could talk about shared joint projects?
Why can't we have cooperation?
This is what I talked to him about on the debate, and he just makes it seem like it's an impossibility.
Like all these nations are totally evil, totally corrupt.
And my thing is, like, we're totally evil, we're totally corrupt too.
Why can't we all come together on the basis of change?
And I think the mindset these people have is like somehow America's going to get screwed in that deal.
Well, America should have made that deal a long time ago.
That would be my argument.
And us getting screwed right now, we're going to get screwed regardless.
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