Owen Shroyer joins Rex Jones and Tim Tompkins to critique the Trump administration's "North Korean level" foreign policy, citing Iran conflicts, Epstein file distractions, and oil-driven strategies that threaten $200/barrel prices. They warn of nuclear escalation, European manufacturing collapse due to lost nuclear energy, and corporate subsidies via AI data centers. The hosts predict a Democratic midterm victory by 2028, arguing current GOP figures are unelectable due to the administration's "stench" and that U.S. actions serve transnational capital rather than American security. [Automatically generated summary]
I rarely ever miss a broadcast going back to when I first started broadcasting professionally at the age of 21.
So we're talking about 15 years, and there's probably five times maybe that I've missed a broadcast.
And today was a little different.
There was no reason, like there was no, you know, like I know one time I had a family deal.
Maybe another time I've been sick, whatever.
It was nothing like that.
I'm sitting at my desk.
It's about two o'clock.
And that's when I usually go through my final aggregation phase.
So it's like a, it's like total aggregation.
And then two o'clock, you got, okay, what can I do in three hours?
What do I want to prioritize?
And then you kind of filter the rest out and I go with what I'm going to present on the show.
And I'm sitting there and it's just like I'm starting the process and it's literally just death, destruction, division, hate, death, destruction, division, hate.
And I'm like, I just can't do this today.
I just, I can't do it today.
And, you know, it's funny because you know my producer, DMT, he sent me a message this morning.
And you guys might know, you know, the bros out there know, it's like when you got a friend that's close like that, it's like your brother from another mother.
You're kind of, you're kind of synced up.
And he sent me a message.
He was, it was just kind of like, you know, I was like, oh, where's that coming from?
Just like, hey, power through today, you know, whatever.
I was like, man, how did he know that I'm like looking at this news and just sick of it?
So I called him.
I was like, what do you think I should do?
I can do the show.
I've got the show prepared.
And he was like, look, you know, you got to make a decision.
But if you think it's best not to do the show today, then you should just not do the show today.
I said, okay.
So I shot that video and I know I made the right decision.
And it's even nice that I'm on here with you guys now because I don't have to host the show.
But I know I made the right decision because after I posted that video, I got so much incoming.
And every day after you do a show, you usually get some incoming, something you said, sparked somebody's interest or a news story, whatever.
There's always incoming after you do a live show.
I didn't do the live show today.
I shot that video and I had more most incoming I think I've had from a show this year.
Don't you feel a little bit like you just you went back in time into like 2022 during like Biden and all the crazy stuff he was doing with Ukraine and the things that was happening with the immigration?
Like a lot of the things that I'm seeing now is that they're even going back on the illegal immigration situation.
Like the actual numbers are significantly less than what they should be, right?
Well, I feel like actually, I feel like we're back in like 2000, like in the bush years or something.
I don't even, I think we're going farther back than that.
I know you guys are a lot younger, but that's, it really feels like the GOP, the Republican Party, the conservative movement, it feels like it just went back 20 years, honestly.
It feels like Trump just said it back 20 years.
We'll see what the final outcome of it all is.
And here's, you know, look, I'm okay with political differences.
I don't expect to exist in a cult.
I expect people to have different politics that I have.
And so that's fine.
I don't like liars.
I don't like deceivers.
And there seems to be a lot of that on the right.
So I think what you're kind of getting at, which I think we're all experiencing a little bit, is the, I guess we would call it the MAGA cult, the MAGA right, whatever this wing of right-wing politics is now.
They've basically reverted.
They are essentially the woke left.
I mean, they're putting people on lists.
They're calling for censorship.
They're trying to destroy your life.
You know, oh, free Iran.
Okay, Black Lives Matter.
It's the same stuff.
It's literally the same propaganda, just for different tastes for different sides of the aisle.
So I would ask MAGA this, because I don't take anything in politics personally.
I think feeling, you know, feeling a little heartbreak or betrayal is natural after everything we went through to get here.
But I don't take anything in politics personally.
So getting betrayed by a politician, getting lied to by a politician, like, okay, whatever, the sun comes up.
What is really, I think, worse is watching what MAGA has turned into.
And, you know, Rex, you were there with us at the grassroots level of this.
We've been in the streets together.
I was one of the first people in the media to come out in support of Trump when he came down the elevator.
And so it's like we've got to this point.
And now all of these people that are basically living off the movement that we created, it's like they're wearing our movement as like a skin suit, as like an avatar.
And all it is to them is a business model.
All it is to them is a grift.
All it is to them is like a popularity contest in high school where they've never sat at the cool kids table.
And now they feel like, oh, we're running the cool kids' table.
And you're like, what are you doing here?
This was our movement.
You guys are just, you guys have just completely destroyed it.
But aside from that, here's what I would like to see from whatever's left of MAGA.
And I doubt they'd be able to commit to any of this because I think they know.
I think they know they've been fooled.
I think they know they're unpopular and you kind of see them crashing out right now.
But I'd like to say this.
For me, the line has already been crossed.
So I'm already out.
All right.
I mean, just look at the situation in Iran.
I wanted zero.
I wanted zero war with Iran.
I wanted zero Iran strikes.
I wanted zero dead American soldiers.
I wanted zero dollars spent on a war in Iran.
So that was already crossed for me.
I knew my red lines already crossed for me.
That's just one situation.
So I would ask whatever's left of MAGA, I'd say, do you have any red lines?
Is there any line where you will say, if Trump does this, I will be upset?
Or are you just full-blown cult right here?
Are you just full blown cult cuck mindset that no matter what Trump does, you're going to celebrate it?
Because he's pretty much betrayed every campaign promise.
So I would say for MAGA, I would say, okay, what about boots on the ground?
Will you be upset if there's boots in the ground?
New poll came out, 74% of Americans don't want boots in the ground.
Let's go crazy.
What if Trump drops a nuke?
Would you be okay with that?
How many dead soldiers?
What if there's 100 dead soldiers?
They just hit a refueling plane that there's usually six people on that.
Did they survive?
They just did another medical evacuation of Saudi Arabia.
Apparently dozens of U.S. soldiers are injured.
So it's like, MAGA, okay, where are your lines in the sand?
Do you have any?
Do you have any lines in the sand?
And if so, what are they?
And if Trump crosses these lines, will you dare say something?
Or are you guys just fully, are you just glued into the chair?
Are you just chair maxing right now?
Total cuck mindset, total cult mindset, or do you have any boundaries?
Do you have any red lines?
And so I doubt they'd be willing to commit.
But I think what we've learned is this happens every time in right-wing politics.
It's like cyclical.
And that's why people like Nick Fuen is kind of turning into this accelerationist mindset or just burn it to the ground mindset, because this happens every time.
Republican politics get unpopular.
Populism and nationalism takes over the body politic of the right, of the GOP.
It gives us election victories.
We get into power and then the establishment steals everything from us.
And then the establishment takes our movement, turns it into neocons, turns it into warmongers, the same crap we've been dealing with.
They just did it with Trump.
And so now we're sitting here and we're saying, not again, not again.
The entire right-wing Republican GOP establishment has to be completely removed from the picture altogether.
Otherwise, we're going to win these victories.
And then when we actually get in power, nothing happens that we want to happen.
I think what they've realized, like the establishment people in the GOP, Trump, whatever, his handlers, whatever, I think they've realized is that they can marry the crazy evangelical Christians and crazy Christian Zionists that truly do believe in the message, the mission, the lighting the signal fire to bring Jesus back in World War III, the apocalypse in the Middle East.
And they can unite the grifters, the people trying to make the money, the people in the game, people, you know, making that AdSense cash.
They can connect those groups together where you have a group that truly believes in it too much and then a group that doesn't believe in anything at all.
And bing, bang, boom, that's your new base.
And as long, I think as long as they can extract money out of people, they don't even care about the midterms.
I think Trump has realized, and I think that the Israelis have realized that this is their time to strike.
This is their time to make the money, to do the deals, to do the wars, do the invasions, because it's like I've heard you talk about many times, you know, in 10 years, there's not going to be a political consciousness that supports this in the country.
And you know what I'm also seeing outside of Iran is like now they're kind of coming out with like new quote unquote evidence and people who are witnesses that say Trump is not part of the Epstein files and none of it's true.
Do you know how many people slid into like my DMs or just like people in general just criticizing?
Well, I think the Epstein files are being used to blackmail Trump.
I don't know.
I don't know to what degree Trump is guilty of whatever he's guilty of.
But I think if you look at the patterns and the trend that really have been going on for almost a year now, when they first started kind of doing the drip, drip, drip Epstein stuff to the media, I think there was a New Yorker story.
There were some other stories.
Oh, Trump wrote a letter.
Oh, Trump signed a picture.
And it was kind of just like, oh, spontaneously, this drip, drip, drip Epstein Trump stuff.
And then what happened?
All of a sudden, he started looking at Iran.
All of a sudden, he started talking about striking Iran.
And then he did strike Iran.
And then, oh, all of a sudden, the Epstein stuff went away.
And now we're back here.
He's forced to sign the Epstein Transparency Act.
He had to do it.
So he signs it.
We're supposed to get all the Epstein files.
We don't.
The rumors were, and I don't think, I don't even think it's necessarily, I mean, I would understand if they would say, okay, we have to redact Trump's name from the files for national security concerns.
Like, I don't like that, but it's like, to a certain degree, you kind of understand the measurement, right?
So let's assume that that is fair and what was happening.
Well, guess what?
Trump's name was all over the Epstein files.
I mean, his name was up one side and down the other.
I'm not saying he's guilty of anything, but to deny that he was in there as much as anybody is just being dishonest.
So then what happens?
So they don't redact Trump's name.
And now we're going back into Iran.
Now we're striking Iran again.
And then what happens?
The DOJ pulls the files back and removes all the files with Trump's name in them.
So it's like, is this just a public blackmail campaign?
Many people have reached the same conclusion.
I think this is a public blackmail campaign.
I wonder what they really have on Trump.
I don't even think whatever it is that's happening here, I don't even think we've seen it.
Whatever it is that they're using to pull the strings.
I think we've just, these are all just the warning shots of like, here's what's going to happen.
That or Trump just sold us out.
I mean, I don't, I don't really see any other option at this point.
It's that it's like Trump either needs our help because he's being blackmailed or he's just decided to sell us out.
Like what you said earlier, Tim, they've just had the realization that they have a finite amount of time to do all of these things they've been trying to do for years.
It's the boomers' last gasp.
It's Israel's, it's Israel has, you know, 5% air left in the tank of America that's kept them afloat.
And so they're just going for broke right now, and they're using Trump to do it.
Well, my concern is I just hope they leave us something.
You know, I hope they leave us something when the boomers are finally, their political run is finally done.
I just hope we have some country left to save, just some semblance of a country, a culture, borders, language, culture, just something for us to try to redeem America.
So that's my concern.
I think it's at this point, it's probably too early to tell, but I would say it's a pretty high odd that the Democrats are going to take the House, Senate might be in play.
And then I think 2028 is in the Democrats' favor as well.
And what's wild about this is you see the MAGA cultists pointing the finger at everybody but themselves.
They want to blame Fuentes, Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, myself, whoever.
And it's like, it's, first of all, it's flattering that you think any of us would have more influence than Trump, but okay.
No, this is because the GOP doesn't deliver results.
This is because the Trump administration has betrayed probably about 30%, 40% of its base just feels completely betrayed.
So that's why the Democrats are probably set to win in two straight election cycles.
It has nothing to do with independent media maybe breaking from MAGA, breaking from Trump.
It has nothing to do with that.
It has everything to do with Trump, the administration, and the GOP not getting results.
So that denial, that living denial is going to send right-wing politics into some sort of a weird tailspin after the midterms that is going to be really ugly and really nasty.
You kind of see Trump is even wading into those waters now as well, which is very uncouth and not charismatic.
But it seems like that's where it's going.
And I see the Democrats impeaching him.
This time they probably have legitimate reasons to.
It won't be like a hoax in the first administration.
The bombing of the boat, the bombing of the school, whatever.
They'll find real reasons to do it.
The tariffs, I don't know, something.
And it's going to be a nasty ride.
I think it's going to be a nasty ride.
As far as what Newsom does when he gets in, or if he gets in, or any Democrat gets in, I think, yeah, I think you got a good taste.
I think you got a good taste from New York.
I think you got a good taste from California.
I don't know if it would be that bad, but I think that's the direction they would probably go.
What does the post-Trump era of politics look like in America?
Because for more than a decade, people have been obsessed with this guy, following this guy.
Like, love or hate him, no one's indifferent about Trump, right?
To this very day.
But you look at someone like a Vance or someone like a Rubio that's associated with this toxic, evil betrayal administration, and they're supposed to run in the primary and everyone's be like, I'm behind Rubio, I'm behind Vance.
They want to run Vance off of just pure name value association with Trump, and they want to run Rubio as kind of a new Hispanic Obama.
At least that's how I see it.
I see it as like they're a new Jeb Bush, right?
And then someone's going to come on that field, whether it's Massey or someone else.
I tend to think that it's going to be someone we haven't even thought of yet or haven't even considered.
What do you think that looks like just for their political prospects in the post-Trump world?
I think that I personally don't think I could vote for anybody that's part of this administration.
Maybe my mind will be changed when we get to that point.
But right now, I don't see anybody from this administration being electable.
I think the stench of the current status of the Trump administration will stick with whoever decides to run for president outside of it.
And look, if we're being fair, let's consider one thing.
We are still, we just finished the first quarter of this administration.
So let's be honest, but let's be fair.
The first quarter, we got trounced.
The first quarter, MAGA, America first, you know, America's interest, American people.
We just got our asses kicked.
I mean, we got our clock cleaned in the first quarter of this new Trump administration.
I mean, we got annihilated.
We're in the second quarter now.
There's still three quarters to go.
Maybe there can be some sort of miracle historic turnaround.
So, so that could potentially redeem members of Trump's administration if they do decide to run in the future.
But right now, I don't see any of them being electable.
I don't think so.
And I think you're right, Rex.
I think should they get to that point on that debate stage, there will be someone up there that is going to act like Trump did in 2016 and just go ham and just call them all out.
I guess the only concern would be: will they try to gatekeep anybody like that off of the debate podium?
That would be the only potential thing I could see them doing.
Say, if Thomas Massey or a Marjorie Taylor Greene or a Tucker Carlson, we'll just use those names.
If they decided to run, would the GOP let them on the debate stage to make that hay?
I see a Rubio polling at like 20, 25, maybe even 30%.
But if that other candidate does exist or does exist in the primary, if you got someone that's getting 12% of the polling or 12% of the vote, I think that there'll be a real public outcry against the banning of that person.
But I think you are right, Tim, that they're going to try to do that.
Well, I mean, look, the reason why MTG turned on the quote-unquote MAGA is because Trump at a specific point was like, look, I'm not going to endorse you for running for Senate.
And that, you know, when the Democrats, the Democrats were doing this.
And if you were to criticize the vaccine, they would call you a commie, you know, Republican and conservative, you know, all these different names that they had.
And I'm just, I'm feeling disingenuous at this point.
This is why I'm kind of liking Nick Fuentes a lot these days.
He just doesn't care.
And I think, you know, independent platforms like yourself, Owen, here on the gray area, I think everybody's getting to that point where they realize, you know, it is okay to kind of step out of that box, if you would say.
And I wouldn't expect Nick Fuentes to say certain things like he's saying these days.
And the reality is like there's nowhere you can go to vote against any of this, it seems.
And especially the people that promise you results, the people that promise that they will fix things for you, the people that tell you everything that you want to hear, literally, and not just the generic politicians' promise of we're going to lower taxes and make the world better for you, son.
Literally, we're going to arrest the PDF files.
We're going to stop the neocon wars.
He literally goes over to Saudi Arabia, tells all the Gulf countries, no more wars for the neocons in the Middle East.
And then us as the voters, we're like, hell yeah, that's what we wanted.
And then, you know, eight months later, there's a massive war.
So I put up a post and it's, it's becoming more true by the day.
After Trump won the election, because I've been through this enough in the political media now, I've been through these election cycles enough.
I put out a post that said, okay, Trump won.
Now get ready for the craziness.
Get ready for the sauce.
And the specific quote was, remember what you stand for, not who.
Remember what you stand for, not who.
And that's how you can keep the straight and narrow and try not to go crazy and all this stuff.
And it's been proven true.
You can see the people that are just loyal to a man versus the people that have actual principles and are sticking to the policies.
So, when you break it down from that perspective, I just don't see any policies.
I mean, the one policy success is the border is closed.
I mean, that's basically the only policy success.
You could also say, and it is true that crime is down.
So, I would say, I guess those are the two big policy successes.
Crime is down and the border is closed.
But, you know, here's my frustration with that.
That should be par for the course.
I shouldn't be up here begging for basic law enforcement.
I shouldn't be up here begging to not have an illegal invasion of my country.
And it feels like somehow this is celebration worthy when this should just be the basic concept, the basic practice.
But nonetheless, I'd say those are the two successes of this administration.
We've had more Iran strikes than deep state arrests.
We've had more dead American soldiers than deep state arrests.
We're getting nothing from the Epstein files other than questions and, you know, like, is this a cover-up now?
And so the economy's not getting better.
We're back into the Middle East.
So as far as the issues are concerned, I don't see how anybody can sit here and say that this has been a success on the policy.
And you know what's funny?
You brought up some of those names and some of them I'm willing to be a little more critical of than others because I'm a little closer to the situation maybe than you are.
But I will say, for almost all of the characters that you just mentioned, you can almost go back with every single one of them and find a post that is just the complete opposite of what they're saying today.
But one thing that I do want to highlight is I think earlier you were talking about boots on the ground.
I don't think the United States and Israel knew what they signed up for.
And so now that you've got the Strait of Hormuz that's in the situation, there might be a possibility that they might put boots on the ground on the Iranian side in order to stop them from bombing all of these oil tankers and allow supplies to go through because they can't afford a global shock at this point.
And I want to interject really quick because we want Owen's take on this and his opinion to add on to what you just said.
Not only are they blockading the Strait of Hormuz, not only are we going to possibly bring people in there to ease the pain domestically so people don't feel it for a couple of weeks, he's announced 180 million or billion or whatever it is barrels of oil from the deep reserves.
Just like Biden, but it's just like Biden, literally like Biden.
But it's not even going to work because it's going to take a year from the estimates for them to even stabilize the amount of loss that's coming out of that region right now.
Well, let's look at all the different angles of this.
The United States gets roughly 5% of its oil that it consumes through the Strait of Hormuz.
The global oil consumption, it's about 20%.
So these are significant numbers.
It shouldn't be as crippling to us.
So I think it's more of an excuse than anything else.
I think it's send an oil tanker out there, send a ship out there and hope Iran blows it up or hope the Houthis or Hezbollah blows it up because, hey, this gives us the war that we want.
So I think that that's maybe a larger factor than even the oil.
It's not to say that 20% or 5% are insignificant when we're talking about energy consumption.
But I do think there's a couple of factors at play.
Now, if you look outside of the strait, what else is happening?
Strategic oil reserves are being released pretty much everywhere, pretty much across the globe.
People are tapping into their strategic oil reserves.
Some obviously have more than others.
Some are in a situation where they're kind of like, how long can we last with this deal?
Trump just released sanctions on Russian oil.
I don't know if you guys saw this.
This is massive.
This is basically, but not just a total reversal.
I mean, we're essentially in a war with Russia through Ukraine.
I mean, we are essentially at war with Russia in Ukraine.
You know, we're just, the Ukrainians are the ones dying.
We're just the ones paying for it and arming it.
But that's essentially our war.
And now you've just given Russia a cash cow.
Now Russia is hundreds of millions are pouring into Russia every single day now that these oil sanctions are lifted.
So they release some of the strategic petroleum reserves.
That's good for like maybe a week.
Like that's barely going to dent the market.
It'll give them some time.
So really all they did was they bought a week or so of time with the strategic oil reserves to try to figure out what the hell they're going to do.
I don't think they know.
And now they're giving Russia the cash cow of releasing the oil sanctions and Russia has money pouring in hand over fist right now.
So really none of this should be going on.
And here's the other issue.
When we went into Venezuela, turns out that whole thing was about oil.
He's down there talking with the oil executives and they're saying, we're going to tap into the Venezuelan oil.
Here's the problem.
It's not ready for market.
And not only is it not ready for market, they don't even have the infrastructure.
So even if you want to get to that Venezuelan oil, you're like six months to a year, really.
I mean, realistically, it could be more.
Who really knows?
You're six months to a year from even being able to tap into that Venezuelan oil.
The oil ready for market is gone.
It's claimed you're not getting any of that.
So you can't even, you can't even use whatever losses you have because of this war through Venezuela, which was the plan, because the oil is just simply not ready for market.
And now you have another situation.
So now these oil companies, I mean, nobody would ever accuse the oil companies of being greedy, but now the oil companies are going to sit there.
They're going to look at the Trump administration and they're going to say, all right, well, hold on a second.
You need us.
You are now desperate for us.
So here's what we want.
We want you to pay for the whole damn thing.
If you want us to go into Venezuela and get all of this oil to market, this is the infrastructure we need.
You're going to pay for it.
And you watch.
They're already talking about it.
I'd say probably by the end of the month, maybe next month, they'll come out and announce that the U.S. taxpayer is going to subsidize all the oil companies in Venezuela so that they can get the oil to market as fast as possible.
So not only is it going to be Trump talking about how the donors are going to make a bunch of money on this oil deal, they're also going to steal a bunch of our money to build the infrastructure because Trump is so desperate to get those prices down.
So total mess, total mess.
And you know what's frustrating?
We probably have, we probably have alternative energy sources that the government is keeping secret from us.
There's all kinds of energy that we could be consuming and using right now.
We wouldn't have to rely on oil to the extent that we do.
I got a question for you, Owen, in conjunction with what he just said.
We also had the Pentagon that asked for an additional $50 billion with what he just talked about with the munitions moving around as well as that $15 billion.
Well, I think that our allies are going to start looking at us a little differently.
And to go a little further into what you were insinuating, Rex, I think that I think Trump betrayed the whole world.
I don't think it's just the MAGA Trump support base in America that feels betrayed.
I think everyone feels betrayed, quite frankly, except obviously Netanyahu.
He's getting a reach around every night and a rim job.
But it seems like the rest of the world and Trump's voter base feels totally betrayed by Trump.
I think the Gulf nation states feel betrayed by Trump.
They're still kind of not sure how to handle it.
I think South Korea, Japan, now, as far as the real threat to them is concerned, I don't know.
Maybe we'll find out.
But I think it's more of an attitude thing.
I think it's more of a, you know, hey, hold on a second.
We're not bombing seven different countries, right?
Israel created its own problems.
Israel created its own enemies.
South Korea is not attacking North Korea.
Japan's not attacking China or getting involved in Taiwan or the South Asia Sea or anything.
None of that's happening.
They're just there minding their own business, trying to take care of their people, doing pretty well.
And here Trump comes in and he's like, oh, by the way, fuck you too.
Sorry.
Fuck you guys too.
So I think it's a measurement of the total betrayal of the whole planet.
And it's all in support.
It's all in favor.
It's all directed towards one entity, and that's Israel in the Middle East.
Now, the other issue with that is how much, what is our capacity really like right now with the military?
I don't think we know.
If you listen to what Trump says, he's obviously, you know, he's obviously airing confidence.
He's obviously airing, you know, we have no problems right now as far as capacity is concerned.
And I bet they have some, you know, some big heavy artillery stuff that they can use.
But as far as like light munitions and missiles and stuff, I'm not so sure.
Everything we've we've spent in the Israel war, everything we've sent to Ukraine, I'm not so sure.
I'm not so sure that we have what is necessary to fight this war on Israel's behalf in Iran for much longer without getting out the big bombs, without getting out the heavy stuff that just is total annihilation stuff.
So, yeah, that's another issue.
Oh, we're pulling the Thad systems out in South Korea.
Is that the signal that, hey, we actually don't have the capacity for this war?
And you know what?
Here's the important thing to understand.
They either underestimated this stuff or they just took a shot.
But the truth is, they have failed at every level of this war.
The first level was, we'll bomb Ferdo and we'll say we annihilated their, we obliterated their nuclear.
They won't be able to have nukes for years.
That's what Trump said.
Well, a year later, they're once again days away from a nuke.
Now they're saying they were going to have 10 bombs by next month.
So they just make this stuff up.
So they're obviously lying.
But regardless, that was the first phase.
Bomb the nuclear capabilities and say we're done.
Israel wasn't pleased.
So then came the second phase.
They sent in the CIA.
They sent in the Mossad insurgency groups.
They armed them and they tried to have a color revolution on the ground.
And this is when you had the whole protesters getting killed thing.
Who knows what really happened with that?
I'm not claiming to.
But that's where that whole thing develops was Mossad, CIA, insurgent groups, proxy groups, went in there, tried to arm up Iranian revolutionaries and overthrow the government.
That failed, and I guess ended up getting a bunch of Iranians killed.
So then they drew back again.
So then they said, all right, let's kill the entire leadership in Iran.
Let's just wipe them all out, 50 of them.
So then they start bombing, bombing, bombing, thousands of bombs.
They kill Khamene.
They kill all the other leaders.
They kill 50 leaders.
And then what do they say?
They say, all right, we killed your leadership.
Now go take your country back.
Iranians, we killed the leadership.
Go take your country back.
They didn't do it.
All they did was unite the country against the United States and Israel.
So strike one, obliterating the nuclear facilities.
Strike two, trying to start a ground revolution in the streets of Iran.
Strike three, killing their entire leadership, and then trying to get the Iranians to take the government.
It didn't work.
You might even say strike four.
I guess the baseball analogy fails now, but they tried to get the Kurds.
They said, hey, Kurds, we'll arm you guys again.
We'll fund you guys again.
And the Kurds said, no, thanks.
We're not interested.
So what are they going to do next?
All of their options are now off the table.
They've failed at every step of this.
That's why I think they're either going to do one or two things, or maybe eventually both.
I think they're either going to have to retreat and stop, and they'll just declare victory, by the way.
That's what they'll do.
They'll say, oh, we won.
It was a total victory.
And the MAGA hats will kick their legs up high in the air and ask Trump if he needs his balls washed or something.
And they'll say, oh, yeah, huge victory.
And then they'll probably restart everything in the summer is my guess, kind of recalibrate and restart a new operation in the summer.
They have to do this all before midterms.
That's the window of time.
They know they have to do this before midterms because it's not looking good for Republicans.
Democrats get in, Trump's impeached, the whole thing's ruined.
So they have to do all of this before midterms.
My other concern is, and people talk about nuclear bombs, whatever.
Don't put a name on it.
Will they drop the big one?
Will they drop, Trump says, we've got bombs you've never seen the total annihilation.
So is that going to be their final line?
Are they going to drop a bomb?
Are we going to watch a bomb go off the rights of which no one's ever seen?
And we got a big problem with that on the show because they've done so many great things for us, like get us into this war and whatnot.
That's the thing that I want to ask you about.
They tell us you just listed this horrible situation that we're in and the arrogance, the hubris of thinking that we can quickly get out of it somehow, even if we declare victory and walk away.
Sure, but my thing is like they tell you that you have to be grateful for it.
And isn't that the final insult?
Because the foreign policy is so macabre and so insane and so grotesque that we look at it like you said, like, hey, just taking a break from doing the show today to recalibrate because it's all too much.
Yes sir, anything from my president sir, a big, beautiful mountain, mountains like you've never seen before, the whole country surrounded, never seen mountains like this.
Let me tell you, while you're taking your final dying breath for dying for foreign and special interest, that die that last breath, be sure to enjoy the view.
So when that initial attempted insurgency happened, revolution, rebellion, whatever you want to call it, CIA Mossad reportedly, they admitted to having people on the ground helping organize it.
The Iranians put out a bunch of videos of like jam Starlinks or Starlinks that they had captured.
And who taught them how to do that?
The Russians.
And where did the Russians learn how to do that?
In Ukraine.
And why did they learn how to do that?
Because we were using it against them.
So this is World War III, even if it is rumblings of it, right?
Well, Russia's been trying to work with America post-Cold War.
Putin tried to enter NATO and start signing treaties.
They were months away from those things happening.
And then European countries stepped in and said, no way, we're not going to stop taking NATO money for defense from America and sabotage that.
I think personally, Russia is our greatest natural ally.
I think a partnership between America and Russia would be the most formidable dual country partnership in the world right now with land mass and resources and military might.
But obviously the establishment wants to keep us away from this.
And I think that the one thing that Americans kind of don't fully grasp, our foreign policy is basically stuck in the Cold War.
It's basically like paused in time from the Cold War.
And I don't just mean like policy wise.
I mean like actually like practically wise in that we're sitting here obsessed over like a singular thing.
And right now it's Israel in the Middle East.
Why is China staying on the sideline?
Well, because China has moved their foreign policy into the 21st century like most other countries on earth, which is you don't need military allies or partnerships.
We're not at war 24-7.
That's America.
America's at war 24-7.
China's not at war 24-7.
They might have some ideas.
They're building islands.
They're looking at Taiwan.
They're looking at Hong Kong.
There's ideas there, but they're not constantly at war 24-7.
That's America.
That's why we're like stuck in this Cold War era foreign policy where we're just shelling money out 24-7 for these bases, for these foreign countries, for foreign aid.
We're just like trapped.
We're like paused in this dark ages of foreign policy.
Meanwhile, China's just sitting over here like they got their own problems, but they're not losing blood and treasure anywhere.
They're not spilling blood and treasure in the Middle East.
They're not spilling blood and treasure anywhere else.
Their blood and treasure is in China.
They're building up China.
Not to say they don't have their own problems, but it's like that's where Americans just can't even comprehend how corrupt our foreign policy is.
It's outdated.
It's stuck in the 20th century.
It's draining us.
I mean, quite literally draining us.
And when you talk about World War III or the concept, the idea of it, when this thing first popped off, they said, oh, here's the alignments.
It's going to be America and Israel and then NATO and the EU countries versus Iran, Russia, China, and then, you know, maybe India, Pakistan get involved.
Obviously, Pakistan, no friend of Israel's.
India, friend of Israel's, maybe they kind of get involved.
And I sat back and I said, if you think that's how this is going down, it shows how uninformed you are geopolitically.
America will be isolated in this war.
America will end up isolated as the only country standing beside Israel.
And now we see it.
The Gulf nation states, they don't want to get involved.
European countries, they're saying no thanks.
I mean, even India, Pakistan, they're kind of lobbing munitions out there just through the media, making statements, but they're not really getting physically involved.
They're kind of using this as like a boost to kind of help their own interests and maybe help Iran, whatever, to help themselves.
But no, America is 100% isolated in this war with Israel.
They're the only country backing Israel.
And what's so crazy about it is it's not even popular.
The American people don't even want it.
So it's really a wild time to be alive.
I mean, you hope that this is like the last stand, right?
You hope that this is the last stand of disastrous foreign policy.
And look, you know, leftists, to their credit, you look at a country like Turkey, you look at a country like Spain, horrible domestic policy.
Spain has wide open borders.
Turkey, very authoritarian domestic policy.
Those are two countries that just have bad, bad, you might say leftist, authoritarian, leftist, liberal domestic policy.
But you look at foreign policy, they've got like the best foreign policy out there, like foreign policy that we wish we had.
So you kind of hope if the left does get back into power in America, yeah, we're going to get the domestic policy that's going to open the borders or whatever else, whatever other garbage leftists do when they get into power.
But it's like maybe, just maybe, they'll see how unpopular the foreign policy is.
They'll see all of the money that our foreign policy costs us.
And maybe they figure, well, since we're open socialists now, instead of spending a trillion dollars annually on foreign policy and foreign interest, why don't we do it to actually try to make some of our socialist utopia dreams come to fruition?
So if the left does get back into power, maybe something like that happens.
That would be the best outcome of all of this that I could see.
Well, I mean, I don't see how you run on anything else, right?
I mean, everyone was pissed off about the Biden era, and now Trump was supposed to be the savior.
And now they're seeing, okay, well, he's not the solution either.
The next person whoever comes in, better get with the program, because at the end of the day, people are not going to put up with it.
I mean, the first ounce or even the first instance that you see something that's that that feels like a lie or that you're not keeping your promise, the American people are going to get up in arms about it.
I mean, it's very clear.
But, you know, I want to talk a little bit about the Russia situation because you were touching on something that I wanted to kind of highlight.
And we just have to look at history.
Like, you've got to look at context.
At a certain point in the 90s, when the Soviet Union broke apart, right?
You had the Russians actually willing to go into this whole world of capitalism.
They were like, hey, we want to send your economist, help us get with the program, help us become part of, you know, the Western society.
And Ukraine are our deep state swamp geopolitics loves having a boogeyman.
So they always want to keep Russia as that boogeyman.
And Europe supports it because of the NATO money laundering operation.
And then they like to have the Muslim boogeyman, which is obviously the Israeli interests.
So you have European interests that like Russia as the boogeyman to America because they launder money through NATO.
And then you have the Israeli interests that like the Muslim boogeyman because they just outright use our blood and treasure for their wars in the Middle East.
I would say I think the left gets back into power.
I think they win the midterms.
And we'll see what happens as far as the impeachment of Trump.
You notice that the deep state doesn't really go after Trump much anymore.
I think that's pretty telling.
So we'll see what the real interest level with impeachment is if the Democrats really want to go there.
But I think the message in the midterms is going to be loud and clear to the Republicans, which is you guys suck.
You betrayed us, and we're not going to vote for you until we get results.
And then, you know, whatever you want to do as far as Trump and his administration and the corruption is concerned, we're just going to look the other way.
We're going to say, hey, you told us you didn't want us.
You betrayed us.
So we're done.
We fought for you for eight years.
You stabbed us in the back.
Enjoy the Democrats now.
Enjoy whatever they're going to do to you.
We're out.
You'd betrayed us.
So we're not running into your defense.
And let's see if the Mark Levins of the world decide to step up and defend Donald Trump in that moment.
I wouldn't bet on it.
So then you get to 2028.
That'll be just two years of total chaos.
Most things outside of the political chaos will probably remain the same as far as our lifestyle is concerned, would be my guess.
Then you get to 2028.
I do think the Democrats win.
And then I think you start to see some differences.
So best case scenario, like I said, I think we see kind of a more Spain, Turkey, leftist domestic policy.
They'll have some authoritarian stuff.
Let's hope Trump doesn't give them the keys to the AI surveillance kingdom, but looks like that might happen.
So you'll have some authoritarian stuff.
You'll have the normal liberal bullcrap.
But then you might actually get a good foreign policy.
I think the Democrats are going to run on the anti-Israel platform in the midterms.
I think it's going to be just outright.
I think they're just going to run on that platform and they're going to probably win on it.
They'll double down.
They'll have victories in 2028.
And then I think people will once again look at the wild left, look at the liberal left, look at what they do with the power, look at what they do with liberalism.
And then we'll get back to right-wing politics 2030, let's say, win the midterms.
And then you get to 2032.
And I think that that'll be our next shot to get somebody in there who's right-wing, populist, patriot, common sense, nationalist that might actually be a reform agent in the right-wing patriot movement.
I think, unfortunately, that's the timeline now.
We're that far away from it now.
I think that's how far set back this administration has pushed us back.
We're like eight-year reset zone now.
But I would say that's the best case scenario.
And this time, hopefully, with the younger generations and the people that have learned our lessons now, quite frankly, through Obama and Trump, we'll have better indicators or ideas of how to make sure if and when we get our candidate in there, we keep them on the straight and narrow to actually deliver on the campaign promises.
And then, hey, who knows?
Honestly, if we stopped spending trillions of dollars overseas, if we stopped with all the waste, the fraud and abuse, if we cut taxes down to the average American paying like 3% to 5% in taxes, I don't think Americans understand how rich we should be.
I don't think Americans have any idea how rich and prosperous our country could be if we weren't spilling all of our treasure all over the world.
We would have the best metropolitan, the best metroplexes, we'd have the best train stations, we'd have the best airports.
Yeah, we can't do a Maglev, we can't do a MagLove train.
We can't do the boring company trains here in Texas to have a hub in Austin that goes to Dallas, San Antonio, and Houston because that would just make too much sense.
No, I say that's my best case scenario.
Unfortunately, this Trump administration set us back about eight years, so it's going to take about eight years to rebuild it.
But that's what I think the best case scenario is.
I think we, you know, I want to envision it.
I want to be positive about it.
I do think it's possible.
And I think it's just going to be the challenge is to get Americans to understand.
And this is kind of what Doge was about.
This is why the whole pulling off of Doge would have been so important.
Americans don't understand.
You don't have to pay 33% in taxes.
Like you don't.
You don't have to.
We don't need NATO.
We don't need Israel.
We don't need foreign aid to all these countries.
Like Social Security is a scam.
Like it's all a scam.
Think about it.
Like, it's like once Americans realize this, the whole game changes.
So me and you, and this is all making me think about a bit long-winded here, but I'm trying to get to my point.
Me and you have been watching this for so long.
I mean, I remember when you first came to the office, probably the first week that you were there, probably like 10, 11 or like however, 11, 12 years ago when this all was happening, that's, I guess, 10 to 11 years ago.
And I remember being up with you at a GOP event in Dallas six years ago.
Yeah, you spoke, but they had this person come up who was like ex-trans and is now just like, I'm gay and I don't want to go to war and I want low taxes.
I don't want enmity between us.
Like I'm a conservative.
And they literally basically started throwing objects at that person.
And while that's going on, in the background behind the truck, there are 40, 50, 60-year-old women twerking to Trump MAGA Trump salsa music.
This has been fun, but I'll say this in regards to what you just said.
You know, here's what they never understood.
And this is why it's kind of been so frustrating for the people that were there at the grassroots of MAGA and this movement to get Trump over the finish line and drag everyone.
I mean, we were dragging everyone along with us.
We climbed over barbed wire.
We swam through, you know, alligator-infested waters and we drugged everybody.
We drug everybody through it to get to this point.
And now here we are totally betrayed.
I think, you know, the people that you just talked about, and it's not even that they're bad people.
They just don't understand.
They don't understand what this meant.
They don't understand what it meant.
They don't understand what it represented.
They don't understand the cost of it.
So it was like once the battle was won, it was like once we cleared the barbed wire, once we got into the sun, now they're dancing and waving the pom-poms and everything.
They don't know the pain.
They don't know, you know, it's like any classic war movie where they talk about, you know, the young guy that's never been to war and he's all excited.
And then the old, the old warrior gets in his face.
He said, you ever killed a man?
You ever seen a man die?
He's like, wipe that smile off your face, boy.
You don't know what you're getting into.
And so it's kind of just like, hey, you guys have no idea what it costs to get us here.
You guys came in after the pain, after the war was won, and you're just dancing in the sun.
We were all true believers in the administration, the promises of the administration, the victory of the administration.
And I remember like when he won the second or third time, depending on what you believe, when he won, I was sitting there in the office and I was like, why am I not as happy as I thought I would be?
Because when Trump won in 2016, it was like cloud nine heaven.
It was like, it was like, hell yeah.
Like, we got, we got the boy in there and he's going to, he's going to move fast and break things.
But at the end of the day, when you come, when you come along to the 2024 election, when that victory came, it just, it felt hollow to me.
And I, I didn't realize why until now.
And I guess that maybe be a little bit of gut instinct on my part, but this, this is where we're at.
And people that labored so hard, worked so hard to get true change in American populism.
I think that we're all just sitting here like asking what happened.
Well, the good news is this movement didn't stand.
He's probably set it back about four to eight years and we're going to have to lick our wounds and reorganize.
But I don't think, you know, the desire that America, that America has, Americans have to break free of the swamp, the deep state, the corruption, all of it.
I think it's still there.
We're just rattled right now because our champion ended up drawing the sword on us.
Your interaction with Brianna last night was funny about the scorpion.
Yeah, Breanna Morello, the lady who was on with my dad, the morning host of the American Journal, great, great lady, a really good newscaster and broadcaster.
She was supposed to be like, I had a scorpion in my room.
Like, what do I do?
I was like a bowl and a piece of paper.
And you just, you put to throw it outside or whatever.
And we change our minds as we go along, as the audience does, we hope.
And here's the thing: we're not here preaching any specific message, although like ideals and rights and a pro-human, pro-humanity message is important to us, of course.
But ultimately, we reject the Star Wars narrative.
And you always hear, whether it's the Iran-Israel-America war, Russia-Ukraine, America-China, blah, blah, blah.
We are told that there's always, you know, the rebel alliance and they got to fight the evil empire and you got to back the rebels.
You don't want to be a Nazi, dude.
But at the end of the day, pretty much everybody's bad.
You often find that like the narratives are always like forgotten.
Like history continuously repeats itself.
And in order to actually stop it, you need to educate yourself.
That's why I'm like, dude, Congress, anybody who's in Congress needs like an entire encyclopedia of history on American conflict before you go in or just policy in general.
We demand candidates that can actually articulate their positions instead of what some PAC or some special interest lobby tells them to say or tells them to do because ultimately the country is melting down.
Whether we like it or not, we don't like it.
We're not fans of these things.
We report a war to you or economic crisis to you or energy crisis to you.
But these are all things that we're going through right now.
And if you're not realistic and if you don't talk about the origins of these things and how they actually came around and how they, how they happen, you're going to be totally lost.
And I see people a lot of the time and they go, well, this is basic or common information.
Of course, like I know this, everyone knows.
I'm like, oh, yeah, really?
Like you know what's in like 13 different slides.
And we go through one of these deep dives.
And me, even I think I'm decently educated.
I always learn something new because a genius in life, the smart person and the stupid person, they have the same outlook.
The person in the middle, it's like, but the statistics and analysis that the experts tell me, and this is all what's true, a person that is smart or a person that just sees reality, they look at it for what it is.
And you can't do that without examining these systems.
Ultimately, the point being, like, we're, we're trying to up production value.
That's why supporting the show is amazing and incredible.
We're trying to get our producers paid, people helping us edit, people helping us moderate the show live.
Like there's a lot that goes into this.
You see these shows and it will be somebody who is in some giant production grade studio and they only have like 30 quesos, but someone's funding it somewhere and they get the big guests, they get the view.
And I just, I look at it, I'm like, yeah, kind of industry plan.
There is no reason why my one-month bill should be $675 when the house is pitch black.
When we talk about these data centers, there is no question that the reason why our bills are as high as they are is because you've got these multi-billion dollar corporations, Meta, Amazon, who come into our communities, who take all of their money and use it, don't pay a dime in taxes.
And this is why our bills are the way that they are.
We are making all the concessions as consumers in terms of what we can do to lower ILB.
Lights, no lights, no heat.
We're going to bed at night.
I go to bed at night with no heat on at all.
I turn my heat off at night and get in the bed so that my heat doesn't run all night long.
When will the elected officials, our local Prince George's Council officials, take our fight to Annapolis and then take our fight to the governor, who will then take our fight to the feds?
We know that multi-billion dollar corporations don't pay a dime.
And this is why we are suffering.
Our quality of life is in the toilet plus the people who have been elected to represent us.
You guys are not doing your job.
Too many people have died.
You have been hung and beaten to have a seat at the table.
And now you've got 90% of black people running this government.
And you guys are treating us the same way we would be treated if we were still back in Jim Pro and 56.
Well, you know, when they have those big meetings where, you know, all the tech guys are sitting around the table and they're like, yes, Trump, Trump, we love you.
So a lot of the times with these data centers, they go into a specific region.
Let's take Virginia, for example.
Virginia is a very hot spot right now.
For anybody who's in the Virginia area, you've got a lot of data centers coming in because when it takes, it takes a lot of computing power to do the whole AI thing.
And the thing is, is these companies like Meta, they go in, they sit down with whatever your electrical company that powers the whole system.
They say, okay, we want to make a data center here, but we want a deal and we don't want to pay for all of it.
So what they do is they take that same cost that they would in order to, the billions of dollars it would take to build that facility and they subsidize it across the entire region.
Because when your electric bill, can you go ahead and pull this up real quick?
If you scroll down a little bit, yeah, okay.
So you guys see like delivery services.
So delivery services and supply services, they're like those things you need to pay attention to your bill, right?
Those are where they typically put in cost of what it costs in order to run the electricity in the beginning.
And anything that comes from like actually building a facility or whether the power grid needs a new upgrade, that gets subsidized across the entire region for those people.
So what people see is you may have not seen your utility go up where you're actually using more electricity.
It's your delivery services that actually go up.
And so that's what this guy is talking about is like, how am I being charged these silent taxes essentially when Meta's got billions and billions of dollars that they have liquid?
How are they getting a deal not to pay for that?
And there are certain regions you can cut back to us.
Last thing I'll mention on this, there are certain regions where the government or the local government has gotten involved and they're pushing back now.
You've got certain counties that are basically saying this should be illegal.
We're not going to have the people subsidize your billion dollar plant to make electricity.
And then you just see stuff getting blown up, right?
Firecrackers.
But I mean, look, Iran is right there.
You've got Yemen that's right there.
I mean, the only way that you can actually take care of that issue is you bomb everything to smithereens, which you can't even do because they're moving assets around.
And we're the person with the physical advantages, the energy, the strength.
We're the person that can knock someone out, but we also have the potential to get tired.
And even if they're, you know, a spindly old, wiry little dude, if they can survive into like the fourth or fifth round, if they can take us out or just make it not worth it, like they could get a split decision.
Here's the thing: it's like the price of groceries goes up, the price of fuel goes up, price of transportation and general heating your house.
All these things are going to go up because of the oil price spiking.
But because him and his friends, and really just the global transnational capital interests, because they can do that market manipulation that we just talked about, because they can make that price bounce and jump and bet on the stock market, oil futures, polymarket, whatever.
Let's just read this: The United States is the largest oil producer in the world by far, but when oil prices go up, we make a lot of money.
You know, who else is making a lot of money?
We talked about with Owen, Russia, the country we passed 19 sanctions packages.
In the coming days, then it is a prospect as soon as we have complete control of the skies and are degrading their they have no air force, the navy is sunk, literally and figuratively.
And the munitions, factories, the rebuilding capabilities for the missiles, they are completely degraded.
So as soon as it is possible for safe patch to ensure safe passage, we will do it.
Every single one of these guys that talk, you know, minus maybe like a Rubio or Pete, they're all like feeling, they all look like they're on their deathbeds.
Like that guy looks like he's like 12 hours away from like from seeing the ghost of Christmas past.
Like I don't understand how, you know, these people continue to just climb higher and higher and higher.
And, you know, at some point, do we not have like retirement rules in place?
But this is him lamenting the loss of nuclear energy in Germany, saying it was a mistake to get rid of all the nuclear power because look how vulnerable it makes.
It will not surprise you that if I say that I personally share the assessment, there is no conclusion for Germany because the German federal governments had previously decided to phase out nuclear energy.
The decision is irreversible.
I regret that, but that's how it is.
And we are now focusing on optimizing the energy policy we have.
We need to expand the networks.
We need also need cross-border cooperation.
We were just discussing this in relation to cooperation and the energy supply between the Czech Republic and Germany.
These are topics that are currently on our agenda.
We must do everything we can to lower energy prices through the market.
Pause it.
So, so this is like people on a boat that have run out of all food and they have like one loaf of bread and they're deciding how they're going to divide up because they blow up Nord Stream 2, like you were talking about with Owen.
So you lose energy from Russia.
You have to buy energy from both America and now get it through the Strait of Hormuz.
The Americans charge you three times what you were paying before with the Russians.
And now the Strait of Hormuz is shut down.
So, two out of three of all your energy resources are completely shut down.
You completely shuttered your nuclear power and you said, Oh, we're going to figure alternative energy, green energy out.
Newsflash, only way to power the manufacturing heart of Europe would be to use nuclear power.
While testifying today in front of the Senate Armed Services Committee, general Alexis Grakinowicz however you say it the commander of the U.S European Command and supreme allied commander OF Europe said, what i've observed over THE course of studying air power in history is that anytime you attack a civilian population usually end up finding out that it just hardens their resolve.
We take this all the way back to the London blitz in World War Ii, the Brits just had a stiff upper lip and kept on fighting, and I think that's what we've seen in Ukraine as well.
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What i've observed over the course of studying air power and in history is that anytime you attack a civilian population, you usually uh, end up finding that it just hardens their resolve.
We take this all the way back to the, the London blitz in World War Ii, uh, the Brits just had a stiff upper lip and kept on fighting, and I think that's what we've seen in Ukraine as well.
Now I know I I know, Tim that you believe a lot in American military power because you've had the opportunity to see some of these systems up close.
I I do agree with you from the perspective of like, if they truly like have a failed state like Libya model, maybe the population would be like we've had enough of this.
Like like we ultimately, we can't all just die out at the same time.
I think that they've hardened their resolve and that we killed their pope.
You do not become a target of transnational capital.
This is what will happen to you.
He should have taken the deal.
He should have taken the deal.
It's true.
He reportedly often shouts at night saying he was kidnapped and yelling, I am the president of Venezuela.
Imagine you're there and you got caught with like, I don't know, a couple ounces of Coke or whatever, and you're sitting in the detention center and you hear, I am the president of Venezuela.
Okay, so here's the thing about Cuba, and I'll update you guys.
Basically, what we've done now, when we've strangled them from the economy of oil, because that literally, that's their entire economy, right?
You're talking about jet fuel.
You're talking about everything to power their hospitals.
All of those things have been shut down because we've allowed no imports of oil to Cuba.
And then we also did this thing where Mexico was stepping in for a little bit and they were trying to provide economic relief by sending over oil tankers as well.
You know what Trump did at that point?
He said, all right, you want to try that?
Well, I'm going to put in a new executive order emergency plan, essentially, and say, all right, anyone who gives oil to Venezuela gets an automatic tariff.
Well, what you're talking about here is what we talk about all the time on the show is really like the soft power, the economic power of the United States of America, right?
And how that's being degraded with all these actions.
You look at a country like Cuba, you look at a country like Iran, they're suffering.
Their people don't have cash.
They got problems with their economy.
They got drought.
They got problems with crops, problems with oil.
But at the end of the day, a lot of that is artificial and it's put on by us.
And if we wanted to maintain that system of being, you know, the benign dictator of the world or whatever, we would do things in a more soft, more controlled way.
We would exercise that power wisely.
But every single president that gets in office, whether that's a Clinton, whether that's a Bush, junior or senior, whether that's an Obama, whether that's a Trump, whether it's a Biden, literally all the same, they pick up the hammer and they're like, I will use the hammer to its maximum effect.
I will ban Swift.
I will sanction you.
I will tariff you 2,000%.
I will do whatever.
And that makes the other countries look around and go, hey, even though it's going to hurt, we better build an alternative system to this.
I've just, you know, if you really look at it from like a 10,000 foot view, he's just trying to deal with all of the things that we haven't been able to deal with prior to.
And that's a case where like Iran, completely different scenario.
We're not going to be effective there.
Cuba, we could take that over next week.
So like get ready for what's coming.
I see someone in the chat say brute force rules the world, Rex.
And I do agree that is true.
You have to have strength.
You have to have power.
You have to be able to exert it.
At the same time, here's where that narrative falls apart.
Look at the Russia-U.S. relationship.
They have tried to work with us.
They've tried to join NATO twice.
They've tried to do all kinds of things.
They have the rare earths.
They have the LNG.
They would be, like Owen said, our natural partner.
But instead of making some sort of deal with them that's mutually beneficial, we back the Europeans and the Ukrainians.
They don't have any resources.
They don't have anything.
The reason why we do that is not for America and for America's interests.
It's for the interests of the private corporations and capital interests that own America, like Larry Fink.
What happens?
Jared Kushner, Steve Witkoff, they go over to Ukraine with Larry Fink and they meet with Zelensky and they tell him, hey, this is how we're going to buy your country up.
Well, and you're so far removed from reality and you don't have, I mean, at that level, anyone who's connected to you, your friends, your family, they're all up there as well.
So like you're not feeling any emotional tie to the situation.
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We both do guest outreach, but a lot of the times Tim doesn't get noticed as much in these DMs because with these people, it's like you got to be up there.
It is something that you guys do not want to miss.
We typically have a guest on that gives either expert knowledge, something specific, or we have a big guest that has a lot to say, or they have a big platform and they're people that they're people that everyone wants to hear from.
Okay.
So we've got that going on.
And then after that, we do a deep dive.
And the deep dive is what separates us from every single show.
We spend, and I specifically spend, I spend like 10 to 15 hours worth of research trying to understand certain systems.
It could be something that affects you at home.
It could be something that indirectly affects you, like a war.
And we peel back all the layers to understand how situations come to be in order to arm yourself with information.
And we don't push slop.
This is not something that's like, oh, we're conservatives and we just want to, you know, lick Trump's butthole.