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Gray Area LIVE #26: A New World Order - Nobody's Bad!

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rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Welcome, welcome, welcome to Gray Area Live number 26.
		I am Rex Jones, and my co-host Tim Tompkins of the Gray Area, he's absent.
		He's over in Germany doing a business deal right now relating to some heavy machinery and some tariff BS.
		So, he's out of town for today and for Tuesday.
		So, I'll be holding down the fort.
		We got a great show.
		We got a whole bunch of exciting stuff to get into.
		It's really going to be a phenomenal breakdown.
		And I'm very excited to do an extended call-in portion since we don't have a guest.
		I'm going to try to talk to at least seven or eight people, at least seven or eight of you tonight, once I give out the number.
		And whatever topics you have on your mind, I'd love to hear about them, but especially anything geopolitical, anything out of the United States of America, anything related to another country or another war that I'm sure we're involved in.
		But we're going to have a fun time tonight.
		We're going to get into all kinds of things.
		I have been over the past week, I've been very sick.
		I've been battling the norovirus, I've been having bad stuff come out of both ends to keep it PG.
		It hasn't been fun.
		It hasn't been good.
		So I'm a little depleted.
		I'm still not 100%.
		But, you know, I woke up this morning and I got out of bed and the sun was shining and the birds were chirping.
		And I was like, I'm okay.
		I'm okay to do the three hour.
		I can hold down the fort.
		And it's very important for the health and longevity and growth of the Gray Area Talks show that we do these shows three times a week.
		Now, I'm not sure if it was last week or the week before.
		I missed like two or three days and it really impacted our viewership.
		I think it upset a few of our fans.
		I got a couple DMs for the listeners about it and really not trying to do that.
		So if we take a break or if there's kind of an abbreviation in the show or if one of us is not here, at least one of us will always try to hold down the fort here on the gray area.
		It's very important for the health of the show.
		So that being said, big show tonight.
		Lots of topics to get into tonight.
		Something that, you know, I've been following very, very closely is the ongoing preparations for war in Venezuela.
		And today I got the opportunity to catch two of my favorite shows, you know, not top two favorite, but top three or top four.
		Sadly, the Alex Jones show has kind of fallen in my rankings a little bit, but I got to catch his Sunday show from 4 to 6 p.m. Central Time.
		And I got to catch the first hour-ish of Dew Dissidence, which really is my favorite show, that Fuentes.
		I think Dew Dissidence ranks number one.
		And then the Fuentes show ranks number two.
		But when I catch the Alex Jones show, I usually don't catch it on the weekends.
		And the funny thing about it is, you know, the typical show, Monday through Friday, it's a three-hour, right?
		And Alex can get a lot done in the three-hour.
		He can get a lot of topics covered.
		He can get a lot of news blitz covered, but often he kind of goes off on tangents or he gets wrapped up in college.
		He doesn't really stay on target.
		I thought today's show was very good.
		And I was surprised at its quality, honestly, because I was expecting, you know, just kind of a typical weekday show, but he broke it down.
		He laid it down.
		And one thing you got to understand about Infowars, about Alex Jones, about his connections with the people, you know, that actually know the stuff is he actually does have some pretty high-level military connections and some people that he can talk to.
		And he's predicting imminently within the next 48 hours that the attack on Venezuela will be fully launched.
		Now, I've been calling this from day one.
		Tim has said it would happen next year.
		I've been predicting it would happen in December.
		I think I'm going to be proven correct.
		And I'm not flexing that.
		I'm not bragging about that.
		I'm not saying that is a good thing.
		It just, it kind of looks inevitable at this point, right?
		And with that inevitability, we have to realize you voted for it, even if you thought you didn't, right?
		And this is what I've had to realize about Trump.
		Even though I voted to end the wars, even though I voted to release the Epstein files, even though I voted for lower taxes, less immigration, you know, we're kind of getting the reverse of all those things.
		So it's kind of a fell for it again award situation.
		I admit it.
		That's okay.
		I'll take my fell for it again award, right?
	But we're going to get into it all tonight.
	I've got a gazillion tabs to go over true news blitz style show.
	I'll be reviewing it and showing it to all of you tonight.
	I want to hear your thoughts, your topics, your opinions, both on what I cover tonight and, you know, what's rolling around in your mind when it comes to geopolitics and the ongoing situation, because whether it's Venezuela, whether it's Taiwan, whether it's Russia, whether it's Ukraine, whether it's Africa, the world is at war.
	And even if we don't want to call it a world war, which I wouldn't at this point, it's certainly inching up to it.
	These are the conflagration of events that lead to a kind of global conflict, right?
	So we're going to be discussing all of that tonight and especially our relationship with our allies, right?
	Because we look at a country like Venezuela, we make all these claims about them.
	They're bringing in all the fentanyl.
	They're influencing our elections, blah, And then we look at the EU and, oh, they're our friends.
	They're wonderful.
	But they're literally throwing people in jail for, you know, free speech, right?
	So I find it interesting that we're all about regime change and all these evil, bad places with all these evil, bad dictators, when it's very obvious the biggest dictatorship in the world, besides the American Empire, I would argue, is, of course, the European Empire, the EU, and something that Alex excellently brought up on the show and really did a deep dive into talking about, you know, King Edward and Hitler being friends and all this and Hitler setting up the European Union.
	And after Hitler's fall, they still followed through with that program.
	That's how we got that unelected bureaucracy that's still alive to this day.
	It's all very fascinating stuff, right?
	And a lot of people don't know it.
	And, you know, usually when Alex pontificates or when Alex makes a point, it's something people know about, but not a lot of people know about the actual origins of the EU.
	We're going to get into that.
	We're going to get into Venezuela.
	We're going to get into forced Ukrainian conscription.
	We're going to get into Trump and the new developments there.
	We're going to get into all of it.
	So welcome to the gray area tonight.
	Flying solo, flying good, having a good time.
	I'm going to check in with the comments really quick and see what you guys have to say.
	Alex Jones is Bill Hicks.
	Yeah, we hear this all the time.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Now I'm going to go ahead and present my screen.
	I'm going to go ahead and present my screen.
unidentified		I'm going to go ahead and present it now.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Gonna go ahead and add this to the stage.
		American investigative journalist Laura Logan announced today that Operation Southern Spear has begun, signaling a potential intensification of U.S. military efforts against Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro's regime.
		According to InfoBay, citing Reuters, U.S. forces conducted a major amphibious landing exercise this weekend in Ponce, Puerto Rico, the largest military reinforcement in the Caribbean over three decades.
		More than 7,000 troops mobilized, supported by warships, E-52 strategic bombers, unmanned systems, that means drones, and special operations units, as Washington ramps up pressure on Maduro's narco-terrorist regime.
		The mission encompasses amphibious training, enhanced logistical positioning, and air power demonstrations near Venezuelan airspace.
		It forms a broader regional push to counter organized crime and emerging security threats.
		That's what they say.
		I don't buy that for a second.
		This is all about Maduro not signing on to a central bank.
		I mean, less than 1% of the fentanyl goes through Venezuela.
		The idea that we're striking these boats for anything other than a gross show of force is frankly laughable.
		And I do consider it to be a war crime.
		And this is something me and my father would vehemently disagree on, folks.
		That's number one.
		Oh, all right.
		Before we get into all this, this is white chocolate.
unidentified		All right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Look, look, Tim's doing white face and he's gained a little weight.
		All right.
		So this is white chocolate.
		This is my good friend William Widener.
		He's in a band called Anti-Sarah.
		You should check them out.
		He's a cool dude.
		He's just doing some schoolwork right now for college.
		But he's joining me in the studio because, you know, it gets a little lonely all by your lonesome doing a show.
		And I honestly, I really enjoy and love having Tim as my co-host.
		And it's a little hard to do a solo show, ladies and gentlemen.
		So we've got someone else in seat number two.
		He might chime in from time to time if he's got a funny anecdote.
		Please keep it PG-13.
		No R-rated, no, no, no N-rated or anything of that sort.
unidentified		Okay.
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this white chocolate's going to stay semi-sweet.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right.
chuck schumer ▲ ● ▼		All right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's going to stay semi-sweet, ladies and gentlemen.
		But basically, all right, I'm going to keep breaking down this article here.
		The USS Gerald R. Ford Aircrafts Carrier Strike Group departed St. Thomas in the U.S. Virgin Islands, heading back to the Caribbean for active operations under Southern Spear, per flight tracking data in U.S. Southern Command reports.
		This follows over 20 U.S. airstrikes on suspected drug vessels since August, resulting in at least 80 deaths in the FAA's extension of restricted airspace over Puerto Rico through March 2026 due to heightened military activity.
		Tensions remain elevated with Maduro condemning the moves as imperialist aggression.
		I would agree.
		You know, and I'm not saying Maduro is a good guy.
		I think Maduro is a bad guy, but hey, how many times have we done this?
		How many times have we got into a country like Saddam Hussein, like Gaddafi, like Assad?
		And we've said, oh, this is the dictator.
		This is the worst person on the planet.
		They must be overthrown so American democracy can reign.
		And then we turn the place literally into a Fallujah-style hellhole every time we do it, right?
		We look at it, the Al-Qaeda leader running everything in Syria.
		We want the Machado lady, the Nobel Peace Prize winner, to be the new ruler of Venezuela.
		And that's precisely because she's going to sign up to the central bank and the IMF, the International Monetary Fund, and it'll be a part of the globalist Borg.
		They don't want Venezuela, a very oil-rich and resource-rich country, even though it's poor and really underpopulated.
		They don't want that country to ever be successful or ever be independent.
		That's what this all comes down to, folks.
		So go ahead and go to tab number two here.
		Okay, it's the same tab.
		Opened it twice.
		Oh, this is what I wanted to show you guys.
		So this is how they bait out the boomer, ladies and gentlemen.
		And I've played Jesse Waters many, many times before on this show, right?
		I've played him many, many times on this show.
		The way he's able to warmonger and antagonize and make death and violence and murder sound cool is frankly unmatched.
		No one else can do it like him.
		You know, it's very interesting.
		Tucker Carlson, you can disagree with him on a number of things.
		He is principled in his anti-war stance.
		And of course, when he leaves Fox, when he's forced to leave Fox because of his anti-Ukrainian position, who do they replace him with?
		The biggest warmonger possible.
		And I would describe Jesse Waters as that.
		So let's go ahead and watch this clip.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		We've been interdicting these ships for four decades and it hasn't worked.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		We've been having Coast Guard cutters go off into the Caribbean and Pacific and capture these boats.
		And do these guys ever sing to who's the boss?
		No, they don't do anything.
		And then we send them back or we lock them up and they remember Miami Vice.
		We have to do something different.
		The argument the Democrats are making is we have to do the same thing we've been doing since 1980, which is treat this as a police action.
		And it hasn't worked.
		So now we're taking the fight to the enemy.
		And we can already tell it's working because Maduro's scared.
		He might leave to the Middle East.
		Mexico's shaking in their boots.
		They know that they could be next.
		And the Colombian guy is like on his last leg.
		So I like the policy.
		And it's not a controversial policy.
		You know, Mark Thiessen, David?
		He did an interview today with the acting director of the Defense Intelligence Agency under Barack Hussein Obama.
		For five years, this guy was calling all the shots.
		This is what he said at the heart of it.
		We use double taps all the time.
		I mean, some of them probably were injured, yet you hit him again.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		So let's break down number one.
		Everything he's saying here is a complete fabrication and lie.
		You're not allowed to kill injured combatants.
		And you can look at examples in World War II, right?
		The Japanese were notorious for when an American ship had sunk and the sailors were on top of the water trying to stay alive.
		The Japanese would mow down our troops, right?
		So American soldiers started doing the same thing in kind.
		And that's why we had the Geneva Convention and then the addendum to the Geneva Convention, rendering that highly illegal and, in fact, a war crime.
		You can call it police action.
		You can call it whatever you want.
		You're not allowed to kill people without due process and certainly without a declaration of war.
		It's very, very key.
		But people like Jesse Waters don't want you to know that.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		And it was something that had bipartisan support on Capitol Hill.
		How about this, Dan Crenshaw?
		I can't recall any time in my history of doing counterterrorism ops where we strike a group, whether it's a building or a boat or a vehicle, and then we were like, oh, there's survivors.
		We have to go.
		We can't kill them.
		Of course, we killed them.
		This is not even.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, Jesse Waters literally just said, Of course, we kill the survivors.
		And then he used IPatch McCain Crenshaw as an example of why it's good.
		Now, we have this culture in the U.S., especially this military culture of the macho alpha male going over and rescuing the world.
		And I think that's been proven to be false.
		We're murderers, we're killers, we're war criminals, and all theaters of war we engage in, really.
		I mean, this has been proven.
		And Jesse Waters cites this former murderer as an example of why murder is good.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		A debatable issue.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		If these guys are radioing the cartel and are climbing back, not injured, into the boat and about to pick up the dope and send it back to another boat.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so we've all seen the drone strike footage of the boats getting hit.
		And I actually don't have any of that today, just because we played it so and so and so many times.
		You've all seen it happen over and over and over again.
		The idea that you have this complete wreckage, right?
		You have this completely destroyed boat, and then they're swimming around the water, probably on boards or something, trying to collect the fentanyl or cocaine or whatever it is.
		So they can then go, like, I guess like Michael Phelps swim it a thousand miles to another boat or something, or 10 miles or whatever figure it's just on its face, flatly insane.
		This is not how the world works.
		This is not how combat works.
		And he knows this.
		He knows this, but he doesn't care.
		And he's decided that he's a part of the American Empire.
		He's decided that he's an access journalist and he's decided Mike makes right.
		And hey, if we got the attack ships and the attack squadrons and the attack helicopters that zoom in and zoom out, and he hypes it up in so many different ways.
		There's so many different clips of Jesse Waters doing this.
		He's decided that that makes it okay.
		As long as it's cool, it's okay.
		As long as he can make like a funny joke about it, which I'll get into.
		I got more clips of Waters making jokes about these people.
		As long as he can make a joke about it and make light about it and bait out the boomer to have that kind of like false American pride, that makes it okay.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		Then the boat's still operational and the Coke is still there and it's a deadly poison.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		So that's just on its face not true, ladies and gentlemen.
		That's just on its face not true.
		It's called horrors de combat.
		They're out of combat.
		They're injured.
		They're wounded.
		They can't do anything.
		And instead of questioning them or interrogating them, we kill them.
		No, you're supposed to take those people captive and gather intelligence if you're actually trying to interdict drugs and stop a drug operation.
		But we just kill people left and right because we can.
		And the Fox News people hype it up and say that it's great.
		I got another Jesse Waters clip.
		Let's watch this full report and just really get into this, guys.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		Fox News Alert: it is judgment day.
		Sources say Maduro's been praying to Jesus.
		That's the narco-terrorist socialist dictator who took over for Hugo Chavez in Venezuela and keeps flooding American streets with migrants, gangs, and cocaine.
		11 U.S. warships, including our largest carrier, the USS Gerald R. Ford, are now in the Caribbean.
		Venezuela is surrounded.
		The strike group is waiting on orders from the commander-in-chief as the president's holding high-level meetings at the White House, calculating our next move against the narco-state.
		The choice is Maduro's.
		Trump's giving him an ultimatum: abdicate power or else.
		After Trump's phone call with the dictator, that's the best offer.
unidentified		The New York Times reported that you had a phone call with Maduro.
unidentified		Did you?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to comment, don't it?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		The answer is yes.
karoline leavitt ▲ ● ▼		Hey, can you tell us a little bit about that?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, I can't do that.
karoline leavitt ▲ ● ▼		Mr. President, would you say me?
karoline leavitt ▲ ● ▼		Would you say it went well?
joe scarborough ▲ ● ▼		I would say it went well or badly.
joe scarborough ▲ ● ▼		It was a phone call.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		This time, it wasn't a perfect phone call.
		The Venezuelan strongman reportedly asked for global amnesty.
		And Trump said, eh, how about no?
		Then he said, what if I hold free and fair elections?
		Trump said, eh, no, he already did that and you lost.
		Then he asked, if I step down, can I still control the military?
		47 said, pack your bags.
		Even with a $50 million bounty on his head, Maduro's maintained an iron grip on power by bribing his cronies with kickbacks from the Coke, oil, and gold rackets.
		But this time, the Narcos aren't calling shots anymore.
		Uncle Sam is, aka Trump.
		And the president's tightening the noose.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so Trump is Uncle Sam and he's tightening the noose and Maduro must abdicate or we're going to go to total war and go in there and kill him with Navy SEALs and Green Berets and all this stuff.
		See how cool he makes it sound?
		See how it's not even a question of our authority or our ability to do this.
		This is just what we're going to do because we're correct, right?
		And, you know, my politics growing up, InfoWars before Trump was very different.
		InfoWars was extremely anti-establishment.
		InfoWars was extremely independent.
		InfoWars was extremely anti-war.
		Infowars was extremely anti-government overreach.
		But what we see more and more and more because of Trump and the cult of personality around Trump and the justification of him being cool and him being Uncle Sam and him being the badass commander in chief is that, hey, as long as he says it's cool and as long as he says it's okay.
		And as long as he makes the statement, I mean, we just have to do it, right?
		Because he's our leader.
		And that's the antithesis of everything I was taught.
		I was taught to question authority.
		I was taught to question our leaders.
		I was taught to follow the law and really be anti-war.
		But we just see justification over and over and over again.
		And I'm just sick of it.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		In the last 24 hours, Trump declared the airspace above Venezuela entirely closed.
		Closing airspace can only mean one thing.
		This is escalating and it's escalating quickly.
		The commander-in-chief isn't going to ratchet up the pressure, then walk away without a win.
		There's no way Maduro can face down the full force of a U.S. carrier strike group.
		The president is keeping his options open.
unidentified		What's the position on whether troops, U.S. troops on the ground is a possibility then?
unidentified		I know you've answered that before, but what's the current in Venezuela?
karoline leavitt ▲ ● ▼		I think my previous answer stands there's many options at the president's disposal that are on the table.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		Maduro is a sitting duck, and word on the street is he'll be out of power before Christmas.
		No one's bailing the socialists out.
		He's getting no love from his sponsors in Beijing and Moscow.
		Putin and Xi Jinping are at the table with Trump doing much bigger trade and diplomatic deals.
		They're not going to throw Maduro a lifeline and jeopardize the deals over a small fry in our backyard.
		And we're doing the Europeans a big favor.
		Venezuelan gangs have been trafficking boatloads of Coke to West Africa.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, you can look up the drug statistics.
		All the drugs that come from Colombia, they come from Mexico, they come from countries like Ecuador.
		They don't come from Venezuela.
		Very few drugs come from Venezuela.
		And like, I'm sorry, this is the antithesis of what you're going to hear on the Alex Jones show or on InfoWars, where they're going to justify it and they're going to say that they're the ones that influence our elections and they're the great evil and they supply all the drugs and this, that, and the other things.
		I just don't believe it.
		I just don't believe it because the motive for what we're doing here is very clear.
		Everything he's saying, everything he's laying out here is complete and total bullshit.
		What we want is we want that Machado lady, the Nobel Peace Prize winner.
		We want her installed because she's already agreed and said that she's going to sign on to the International Monetary Fund, the IMF, and the World Bank.
		That's what this entire war is about.
		And I've talked to Venezuelans.
		I've talked to active duty soldiers and people in the military, and they've both told me the same thing.
		They've both told me that that's what this is about.
		They all understand this.
		They all know this.
		But ultimately, the machine is too big to be stopped.
		We're going in there, folks.
		And if I had to make a prediction, I would say the next week we're going to be in there.
		My dad on the show, and I believe him.
		I think he's right.
		I think his sources are good.
		He says we're going to go in there tomorrow and that they'd probably be doing like an 8 a.m. broadcast and something might happen.
		And, you know, I'll be up early tomorrow morning checking the news because that's what's going to happen, in my opinion.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		The Africans have been pouring it into France and Germany.
		Maduro's isolated.
		According to UN investigators, he's guilty of crimes against humanity, torture, murder, sexual violence.
		He only got 20.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Are we not guilty of crimes against humanity?
		Is the United States not guilty of torture and sexual violence?
		I think we are.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		20% of the vote last year.
		They stole the election and wouldn't leave.
		And he's unleashed migrants, gangs, and poison onto our shores.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So he's unleashed migrants, gangs, and poison onto our shores.
		You know, I had a very interesting conversation with a Venezuelan.
		He kind of broke this down for me.
		He goes, look, Venezuela, a small country, a country of 30 million people.
		The people that left after Maduro came to power because Maduro is not a good guy.
		And I'm not saying he's a good guy.
		I'm not a supporter of Maduro in any way.
		The people that left Venezuela were the doctors, were the lawyers, were the business people, the people with money, the people that could afford to get out.
		And the people left in Venezuela were that lower underclass, right?
		And the reason why they kind of support Maduro is because Maduro has given them money.
		Not saying that it's a good state.
		I'm laying it out right here.
		It is a corrupt state.
		But when have we ever fixed anything for the better in any theater since like, I'm not even going to argue World War II.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		Chuck Schumer's back to military action in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Yemen, and Ukraine.
		Schumer's basically down for whatever, whenever, no questions asked.
		But now that Trump's the president, he has questions.
chuck schumer ▲ ● ▼		Americans are right to wonder, what on earth is Donald Trump planning in Venezuela?
		Is Donald Trump nudging America into another war?
		Is he seeking regime change for Maduro?
		Will he put U.S. troops in harm's way?
		Nobody knows.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		There's no way Trump's telling Schumer anything.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, let's talk about that.
		There's no way that Trump's telling Schumer anything.
		All right.
		I hate Chucky Schumer.
		Chucky Schumer is evil.
		Chucky Schumer doesn't know how to cook a hamburger.
		Chucky Schumer supports open borders and supports endless war and supports the war in Ukraine.
		I'm not a fan of Chuck Schumer.
		But when it comes to war, the 1973 War Powers Act is very clear.
		Only Congress has the ability to declare war.
		And what we're seeing here is a complete disconnect and abandonment and really scoffing in the face of that concept.
		This is the end stage of what the Bushes and of what the Obamas and even what the Bidens have brought us to.
		Now the president can unilaterally declare war on anyone he wants and the media will justify it and Congress is too impotent to do anything about it.
		Ultimately, it comes down to one thing.
		Did you vote for this?
		Because I didn't vote for this.
		I voted for Donald Trump twice.
		I voted for Trump in 2020 where he lost or won, but he lost.
		And then I voted for him in 2024 when he won again, right?
		So when I voted for Trump in 2024, I didn't vote for no war in Venezuela.
		I didn't vote for no continuation of war in Ukraine.
		I didn't vote for no genocide in Gaza, but I got all of those things.
		And I'm still supposed to support him.
		I'm still supposed to say that this is our fearless, great leader who can do no wrong.
		I mean, at one point, I truly believe that.
		But as we've seen, they made perfectly clear.
		It's all about war.
		It's all about violence.
		That's what he supports.
		That's what his agenda is.
		And the great irony of coming in saying that you're the great peacemaker and that you can solve the Ukraine-Russia conflict in a single night without even being president, the irony of saying that you deserve the Nobel Peace Prize more than anyone.
		You've stopped eight wars when the death tolls in multiple theaters across multiple continents, multiple hemispheres just keep on blowing up and engaging and engaging and growing and growing and just really swelling up over time.
		The irony of still saying that you're the peace president, just come out and say that you support war, death, murder, and that it's good.
		Just that's all you have to do.
		And at least you're being honest there, right?
		Well, I know y'all didn't vote for this.
		I didn't vote for it, like I just said.
		It's what we're getting.
		And ultimately, there's nowhere you could go to vote against this because I'm sure if the Democrats were in power, they'd be doing the same exact thing.
		And that right there is my point, ladies and gentlemen.
		That's my point to all the viewers and listeners out there.
		There's nowhere you can go to vote against this.
		And there's nothing worse than someone lying to you and saying that they're the peace option and that if you vote for them, they'll stop the stuff from happening.
		And then they go on and continue to do it even worse.
		I mean, here's the thing.
		The Democrats are pretty open about what they want.
		And you know what?
		There's some honor and nobility in that, even though it's evil, even though I can't stand them, even though they're disgusting.
		They're honest about what they want to do.
		The Republicans, they are down, dirty liars, folks.
		They're down, dirty liars.
		Down, dirty liars.
		And that's what I can't stand.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		Might as well tell Maduro.
		Schumer's old enough to know the war on drugs has been a four decade failure.
		And he knows that Trump didn't storm back into the White House just to repeat the failures of past presidents.
		The Secretary of the Navy gets it.
unidentified		Drugs kill more Americans than we've ever lost in wars.
unidentified		So I think at the end of the day, the president has correctly identified this as an attack on the country, which it is.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		The narco-traffickers are on deliver or die missions.
		They're ferrying cargo through the Pacific and the Gulf of America.
		Some of these speedboats are 40 feet long and carry $70 million of contraband.
		Taking out these boats at the cartels where it hurts.
		Their bank accounts and forcing out.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We've never been shown any proof of any of this.
		We've never been shown anything that's on the boats.
		We've never been shown any of the people that are on the boats.
		We just kill the people that are on the boats and say that they're bad.
		And that's enough of a justification.
		I demand proof.
		If you're actually killing the people that are bringing in the drugs and you actually are stopping the drugs from being delivered, why don't you show us proof?
		You know, a cop, if they pull someone over and they find like a weed pipe and they find like an ounce on them, they'll lay it out on a table and like all pose around it like they're cool and show what they did.
		I haven't seen any of that.
		I haven't seen any evidence for this at all.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		Douro sends a powerful signal to the Colombians, the Mexicans, and the Chinese.
		The Monroe Doctrine's back, and American deterrence is back.
		Venezuela is a launching pad for Coke, and they're getting squeezed.
		The CIA is already on the ground there and have been authorized to give the president options.
		Operation Southern Spear is designed to defend the American homeland from drug warfare.
		And guess who has a problem with that?
joe scarborough ▲ ● ▼		If you want to understand if those are drug boats, who would go on those boats, it's people who have families that have been kidnapped.
joe scarborough ▲ ● ▼		And they're told, go in the boats or we will execute your children.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		Where's he getting this from?
		Coke boats aren't being driven by hostages.
		The Wall Street Journal reports each boat is manned by three to four well-paid professionals, a pilot, a mechanic, a navigator, and a voucher man, you know, someone who's trusted by the buyer and the seller.
		Now, someone's trying to sabotage U.S. operations, and the saboteurs are coming from within our own country.
		Over the weekend, the Washington Post accused the Secretary of War of committing war crimes.
		Hegseth order on first Caribbean boat strike officials say, kill them all.
		The story goes something like this.
		U.S. Southern Command launched an airstrike against a Coke boat.
		They saw that there were survivors and launched a second strike.
		So there were none.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're not allowed to do that.
		You're not allowed to do that.
		Why didn't you take those people in and collect intelligence?
		Why didn't you take those people in and collect data?
		Why don't you take those people in and arrest them?
		Simply put, they don't have the justification for what they're doing.
		They can't prove what they're doing.
		So they're just killing people left and right.
		It's American imperialism.
		It's American aggression.
		And in my opinion, it should not stand.
		And it's the absolute antithesis of what we voted for.
		And why am I saying this over and over and over again?
		Because he's proving the Democrats right.
		And that's the last thing I voted for.
		I know that to be the case.
		He's proven the Democrats right.
		When he plays that Morning Joe video, Morning Joe is also wrong, but Morning Joe is more right than Jesse Waters.
		And I hate that.
		That shouldn't be the case, right?
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		Pete calls it fake news.
		Quote, our current operations in the Caribbean are lawful under both U.S. and international law, with all actions in compliance with the law of armed conflict and approved by the best military and civilian lawyers up and down the chain of command.
		Here's the White House.
unidentified		Does the administration deny that that second strike happened, or did it happen and the administration denies that second strike accept?
karoline leavitt ▲ ● ▼		Secretary Hegseth authorized Admiral Bradley to conduct these kinetic strikes.
karoline leavitt ▲ ● ▼		Admiral Bradley worked well within his authority and the law.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		Lethal operations like this go through layers of lawyers from the War Department, state, national security.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		Everything goes up and down the chain of command and gets signed off on because we value life in America.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's hilarious.
		He just said we value life in America.
		Will, do we value life in America?
		Do you think we value life in America?
		You think we're loving?
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		Depends.
		It depends on who I'm loving.
		You know, if it's like roly pulleys.
		I love roly pulleys.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Yeah.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		The United States has conducted strikes all over the globe like this for decades.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		But for some reason, when President Trump does it, it's a crime.
unidentified		What law is it that allows no survivors?
karoline leavitt ▲ ● ▼		The strike conducted on September 2nd was conducted in self-defense to protect Americans in vital United States.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's self-defense when we launch a hellfire missile at you.
		You see, it's self-defense.
		That's what she just said.
		It's self-defense when we nuke you from the air.
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Second Amendment.
		That's the key.
		It's the Second Amendment.
		That's the justification.
		Look, it was wrong when Obama did it.
		It was wrong when Bush did it.
		It was wrong when Biden did it.
		And it's wrong when Trump does it.
		It's all wrong.
		And that goes to the point of there's nowhere you can go to vote against this type of stuff, right?
		There's nowhere you can go.
		And here's the thing.
		Fentanyl, they talk about the fentanyl and they talk about it killing hundreds of thousands of Americans a year.
		And they use that as a justification of, okay, we have to go to war with Venezuela because they have the fentanyl.
		They don't have any of the fentanyl.
		They have less than 1% of the fentanyl.
		You can ask ChatGPT about that.
		You can look it up in Google and just find the statistics right there.
		The fentanyl doesn't come from there.
		Number two, how much fentanyl?
		If one grain of it is enough to kill 10 people, wouldn't you just need like a single brick, right?
		Like forever?
		But they have to keep bringing it in over and over and over again.
		It doesn't make sense on its face.
		It makes zero sense on its face.
		Now, this is how it should be done.
		And this is something that I support.
		Let's watch this so there's no nukes being dropped from the air There's no war crime being committed.
		They're arresting the people.
		They're seizing the contraband.
		They're taking the substances.
		I'm not saying drug trafficking doesn't happen.
unidentified		This is how interdiction is supposed to work.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm against this.
		I support this action, right?
		This action itself is not a law.
unidentified		It's very simple stuff.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is how so it's really not that hard.
		It's really not that hard to make the calculation here about what's right and what's wrong.
		This is right.
		And then the drone strike or missile strikes are wrong.
		That's what I believe.
		Now, let's look at all the forces that we have built up in the region.
		I believe it's almost 20% of our entire Navy that we have out there now.
		You don't just do this for a show of force.
		We're going to go in there.
		We're going to invade imminently.
		We've got the Gerald R. Ford Carrier Strike Group.
		We've got the Gerald R. Ford.
		We've got three support ships.
		We've got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 aircraft.
		We've got the Tomahawk strike package.
		I mean, just look at this.
		This is outrageous.
		I didn't vote for this.
		And you realize how expensive this is.
		They're burning hundreds of millions to do this weekly.
		And I guess money is no object, right?
		Because we can print more of it.
		It's a grotesque horror show, folks.
		And then we got the people landing in Puerto Rico.
		We got the 7,000 troops getting ready to invade.
		Isn't that nice?
		Isn't that what we voted for?
		Fell forward again, award.
		Ain't that something nice?
unidentified		These are the Venezuelans.
		information, we will demonstrate to the country, we will demonstrate to the whole world that Venezuela is respected.
		Venezuela has an armed force, together with the people, fusion, adiestrated, entrenated, moralized.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, of course, they're going to lose.
		Of course, we're going to win if we go in there.
		They got 30 million people.
		We have the biggest military in the world.
		They have nothing compared to what we have.
		But American soldiers will die in these engagements.
		And I guess the justification is the fentanyl that doesn't exist.
		So at the end of the day, do you want your sons, do you want your daughters to go fight these people?
		Hell no.
		Hell no.
		And why would you, right?
		Why would you?
		Now, massive blackouts are being reported across multiple states in Venezuela.
		This is breaking.
		This is in the past three hours.
		This is what you do when you get ready to go to war.
		So we're about to enter this.
		Are you pro-war, Will?
		Tell me about your views on war.
		Lean into the microphone.
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		War bad.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		War bad.
		It's very simple, right?
		But our politicians believe war, any war, is good because they're all invested in the defense companies.
		They all get kickbacks from the defense companies.
		And it's all about regime change.
		It's all about building the world that they want at the expense of other people's lives.
		And what does this do, but make everyone else in the entire planet hate us?
		That's all this does, folks.
		That's all this does.
		All right.
		That's the next topic I have to get into.
		So I'm going to cut back to myself.
		I'm sorry.
		I'm a little sick still.
		I'm finding that I'm not able to string together my words or make the points that I'm trying to make because I'm still just a little bit under the weather.
		My point is, look, my ethos as being a pro-American person is being anti-war solely from the point of we are supposed to be the moral nation.
		We are supposed to be the nation that exports democracy, that exports liberty, that exports peace, that exports freedom.
		And all we see is that we export violence and death and destruction.
		And, you know, it's a very twisted world when we do that because we're seen as the arbiters of what's right or wrong.
		And then other countries go, okay, you do this.
		We're going to do it.
		So the justification for violence is never there.
		It's only there when you yourself are attacked.
		And we're not being attacked right now by Venezuela.
		We are being attacked by the cartels.
		We are being attacked by the drug people.
		We are being attacked by those folks.
		I'm not disagreeing with that.
		But, you know, Trump goes and hangs out with the Jewish president of Mexico at the FIFA World Cup.
		And where are most of the drugs coming from?
		Mexico.
		Where are the massive protests against Shinebaum coming from?
		Mexico.
		Where are the cartels located?
		Mexico.
		That's where the drugs are coming from.
		That's where the fentanyl is actually synthesized.
		But Venezuela, because they won't sign up to the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, because they won't get in debt like that.
		They are the enemy.
		It's never about what they say it's about, folks.
		It's always about the exact opposite.
		And you have to look into it and you have to look into the cause and effect.
		You have to do the second, third, fourth order thinking and actually realize what's happening for real.
		So covering Venezuela, I just wanted to get into that for a little bit.
		I wanted to pontificate on it a little bit and just give you all a refresher.
		I know that you're politically aware and awake.
		I know you're following what's going on.
		We're going to war with them, whether you like it or not, whether you voted against it or for it or not, which most of us voted against it.
		That's why we voted for Trump.
		He called himself the peace president.
		He lied about that.
		We're going to go fight them.
		This is what's going to happen.
		So it's just up to us to be recognizant and aware of that and to realize that no matter who you vote for, you can't vote against it.
		Now, we look at the Venezuelan situation and it's bad.
		It's terrible.
		I'm very against it.
		I'm against the deployment of American military power for no reason.
		That's bad enough.
		But when we get to the people that are our allies, the people that we support, it's even worse.
		And we're going to get into the EU.
		We're going to get into censorship and we're going to get into Ukraine right now.
		But I'm going to read the comments.
	I'm going to see what you guys have to say.
	And then I'm going to get back to the feed.
	You opening the phones tonight?
	Yeah, we're going to open the phones in about 30 minutes.
	I'm really feeling pretty bad.
	So I need y'all's help to get through this three-hour broadcast tonight.
	A new Groyper says, Yes, I want children to fight for us.
	I mean, America.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Is white chocolate a Groyper?
	Are you a Groyper?
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		I'm a gripper.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, uh-oh.
		You also got digital ID.
		Hit the like button.
		Yeah, and a 50-foot boat.
		Yeah, these tiny little boats with like three outboard motors that are like very, very far from the United States.
		It's just, it's on its face.
		It's just not true.
		Like at worst, they're going to Trinidad with the drugs, right?
		And why wouldn't you just interdict and stop them like that video I just played of them doing that exact thing?
		They're capable of doing it.
		We have all our military in that region.
		We're hitting them as a show of force, as a show of destructive power to show that we can do it, right?
		I think the argument is that Maduro runs the cartel that runs the Mexican cartels, cut off the head of the hydro.
		That's not true.
		That's objective.
		That's not true.
		And this is what we hear people say in the government as justification.
		Marco Rubio, who Miriam Adelson wanted to be VP, and Trump knew if he made him VP, he'd get killed and Rubio would be made president.
		That's why JD Vance is VP.
		And everyone knows that, of course, Marco Rubio is one of those people that left Cuba actually before Castro took power.
		He left Cuba during the prior regime.
		And he just wants to rule that entire region, right?
		So that's what this is about.
		Rubio's pushing for this.
		It's his mission to do this.
		At least our missiles are made in America.
		Yeah, they're one of the only things we make in America anymore.
		Right.
		But I want to get into the EU now real quick.
		All right.
		So.
unidentified		So we're fighting a war in Venezuela.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're fighting a proxy war in Ukraine with the EU, backing them, selling them weapons, even if Trump is saying that he wants to back out.
		And we're fighting a war in the Middle East.
		We're backing Israel.
		We're back in their takeover of Syria.
		We're back in their takeover of Gaza.
		We're back in their takeover of a bunch of different things, right?
		We're fighting a war on three fronts.
		And when you look at America, the bloated, decrepit empire that it is, at least we do still have military power in action.
		At least we could, in theory, even if it's evil and wrong, at least we could actually win.
		The European Union literally has nothing.
		They have no military.
		They have no armies.
		They have no weapons.
		A few of the states have limited nuclear weapons.
		France has some.
		The UK has some.
		But by and large, they're deindustrialized.
		They've been taken over by third world populations.
		They don't have the means to fight an armed conflict.
		They don't have the means to fight a war, but they are going to back this and push it to the hilt and they're going to make it happen.
		Now, who has hurt the EU?
		Who has hurt Europe more?
		The Russians or the Americans?
		Who blew up Nordstream 2?
		Well, of course, the Ukrainians blew up Nord Stream 2.
		And by the Ukrainians, I mean us folks.
		And that's why Germany now has to buy our oil and our LNG at triple the prices they were paying before.
		Now, are we the enemy?
		Are we the bad people?
		No, Russia is the enemy.
		Russia is bad.
		Russia must be crushed.
		Now, how does that make any sense?
		You could make all kinds of arguments that don't really make sense as the European Union leaders do, like Ursula Dunderland.
		And we're going to get into it.
		The facts on the ground are they don't even have the means to carry out any sort of military action against Russia.
		The second best military in Europe or in Eurasia is the Ukrainian military.
		And that's because they're battle-tested.
		They fought the Russians for four years.
		Even though they're losing, even though they're about to give out, they are the most capable fighting force in Europe.
		You look at all these other countries.
		They are complete jokes.
		But what do they do?
		They warmonger.
		They have the rhetoric.
		They want blood.
		They're out for blood, ladies and gentlemen.
		They are out for blood.
		So I'm going to go ahead and go to the next clip.
		This just happened, guys.
		This just happened.
		Russian forces targeted seven Ukrainian regions overnight into Sunday with over 240 drones and five ballistic missiles, killing at least two civilians and damaging homes, rail lines, and power grids.
		Zelensky reported this week's attacks included 1,600 drones, 1,200 guided bombs, and nearly 70 missiles, causing outages up to 16 hours in areas like Kremenchuk.
		Amid the strikes, U.S. and Ukrainian officials held constructive talks in Miami and by phone, discussing security, deterrence, and post-war rebuilding, with all sides stressing Russia's need for de-escalation.
		Isn't that cute?
		Zelensky called for faster air defenses while expressing hope for progress, as U.S. Ambassador Whitaker noted negotiators are closer to peace than ever.
		Now, why does this not make sense?
		We don't have the weapons to give them, number one.
		So when Zelensky asked for the air defenses, we've already given all our air defense weapons to Israel.
		And the few Patriot systems that still remain in Europe that have been sent to Zelensky, we don't have the means to replenish the munitions.
		The Russians make as many missiles in two months as we make in an entire year, and not just the U.S., the entirety of NATO.
		When you look at it from a pure munitions perspective, it's not feasible.
		They literally cannot win.
		They cannot win the fight, but we are told that it must go on.
	Here's Zelensky.
	Almost every day and every night, our emergency services deal with the aftermath of Russian strikes on peaceful Ukrainian cities and communities.
	This week alone, Russia launched over 1,600 attack drones, around 1,200 guided aerial bombs, and nearly 70 missiles of various types against Ukraine.
	The primary targets of these strikes are infrastructure to keep everyday life going.
	There was another attack today as well.
	More than 240 drones and five ballistic missiles causing damage in seven regions.
	Tragically, people were killed in Slovansk in the Karniv region.
	My condolences to the families and loved ones.
	We continue working with our partners to ensure that the response to these attacks, our defenses grow stronger.
	With what?
	With what?
	With what weapons?
	We're not sending you weapons anymore.
	The EU can't even afford to buy the weapons for you.
	There are no munitions for you.
	You need to surrender and give up.
	You need to give up Donetsk, Luhansk, and Kherson, but they won't do that.
	And that's why they're going to lose nearly their entire country.
	Keep in mind, there was a peace deal on the table in 2022, in March, a month after the war started.
	Zelensky went to Istanbul.
	Zelensky met with the Russian delegation and they said, look, here's what we want.
	We want Donetsk, Luhansk, and Kherson, the Donbass region.
	We want them to be independent.
	We want them to be able to vote.
	We want them to be able to speak Russian, go to court in Russian, be able to speak to police in Russian, be able to not be discriminated against, basically.
	And what did Zelensky say to that?
	He said yes.
	But then Boris Johnson, the XPM of the UK, flew to Ukraine, promised Zelensky that the EU and America, without our permission, back him to the hilt.
	And that's why they went full and total war.
	This all could have stopped.
	And we'll get into casualty numbers later.
	I have some statistics on this.
	It's between 300,000, 500,000 to a million Ukrainian troops have died.
	And they claim that's not true.
	They claim they've only lost like 100,000 or so.
	That's on its face a bold-faced lie, just based on the length of the conflict, the weapons used in the conflict.
	We know that's not true.
	We look at the Ukrainian-Russian prisoner exchanges where the ratio is 50 to 1, talking about, or not prisoner, dead body exchanges.
	They'll turn in like a thousand dead Ukrainians.
	They'll get like a few dozen dead Russians.
	These are just the facts on the ground.
	But you know what?
	I got a bunch to get into.
	I want to be able to reframe my mind.
	I'm still pretty sick, guys.
	I apologize.
	Let me go ahead and open up the phone lines and get ready to have some fun conversations with y'all.
	So, New Groyper, I know you're listening.
	Go ahead and call in and I'll add you to the call.
	But I'm going to go ahead and throw up the call-in banner now so y'all can join the show.
	he's calling.
	Yep.
unidentified		All right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're about to be joined by New Groyper, ladies and gentlemen.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And here we go.
unidentified		Hey, New Groyper, can you hear me?
unidentified		Yeah.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		How are you guys doing?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Man, I'm still pretty, I'm not contagious anymore, but I'm still kind of recovering.
		I lost like 20 pounds after being sick.
		How are you doing tonight?
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Hanging in there, man.
		Hanging in there.
		Long day.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I feel you.
unidentified		Long days.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I feel you.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Just want to start off by saying, like, Trump needs to go blow Bill Clinton some more and leave us alone at this point.
		Like just retire.
		Like, go on.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		I mean, it's everything we voted against, man.
		And the way I see them hype it up, the way I see them hype these wars up and even the Ukrainian conflict where, you know, he's meeting with Putin and apparently like they're making progress or whatnot.
		We're still just saying, hey, we won't fight over there, but we'll still sell the EU the weapons.
		Like it's a complete joke.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		The weapons that we don't have.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Get into that a little bit.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		We don't have anymore, supposedly.
		Now, I think it's a lie, personally.
		You know, I mean, the missiles are made down in Key West, Florida.
		That's where Raytheon makes all their missiles down there.
		So there is a facility down there to make them.
		I think there's they're playing chicken and it's dangerous is basically the most simple way that I can put it.
		I think that's, yeah, I think that Trump cares about one thing and it's his ego.
		And it's sad because I voted for him twice, technically.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we both did.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		I mean, dude, dude, dude, I almost went out there to Washington for January 6th.
		I'm so thankful I didn't, but that's how mad I was over the results.
		And it's like, honestly, did that really affect anything?
		No.
		No.
		I don't know if you saw the reports that are coming out today.
		We're on track to have, I guess it's going to be the greatest job layoff since the Great Depression that we just started.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I did see that.
		Yeah.
		And the vast majority of the job losses are coming from small business.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		They're killing them.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		They're crushing them.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		They don't care.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And that's the whole thing.
		You know, it's our government has entrenched interests and there's no way to get them out from or get us through that.
		Unfortunately, I just, I've been so frustrated.
		I've been paying more attention, though.
		I mean, I'm kind of blacktailed on Trump because, you know, he just, he like that, that boomer slot that they fed us at the FIFA World Cup.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Like, bro, I don't care about you dancing like a retard.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Like, I'm sorry.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, they invented a peace prize and gave it to him, right?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because he's not going to get the Nobel.
unidentified		So they gave him the FIFA peace prize.
unidentified		That's so funny and lame.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		You know, I think history will look back on him as one of the worst presidents we've ever had.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And I say, I mean, there's a lot of contenders to take that award, but I mean, I would just love to maybe before I die, we'll have like an administration who actually cares about our interest at least once.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Well, I think it takes the total collapse, right?
		I think it takes that new Great Depression for that to happen because you point at and you say, hey, like, I think Trump's one of the worst presidents that we've ever had at this point.
		I would agree with you.
		But then you look at Biden, you look at Obama and you look at Bush, you look at Clinton.
		I mean, it's been bad for a very long time.
		And I think you couldn't even point maybe since JFK or even since Nixon since we've had even a decent person in there, right?
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Longer than that, to be honest.
		It's just absurd to me.
		It's like I've been keeping track of, I've been caring about more about domestic stuff than foreign stuff because our country's a mess.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, and all that.
		Like, with the Venezuela stuff, blow them up.
		I don't care.
		I mean, obviously it's tongue in cheek, but like, you know, least of my problems, you know, much, much bigger.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I hear that.
		And I get that point.
		And that's that.
		That's why the call-ins are so great.
		That's why ultimately like having Tim and having a co-host is so great is because we get to bounce these ideas back off each other and we get to get into them.
		I don't like the Venezuela thing because it's the antithesis of everything I voted for.
		Like even more than the Ukrainian situation, at least the Ukrainian situation was an ongoing armed conflict, right?
		This is something completely new that we've invented.
		And people say, he's the drug kingpin.
		He's running the cartels.
		He's running all the drugs.
		And I just, how many times, how many times are there going to be weapons of mass destruction?
		How many times are there going to be chemical weapons?
		How many times are there going to be babies and incubators, man?
		Like that's what pisses me off.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		You know, here's another way to frame it, though.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		At least we're projecting power in our own hemisphere now.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that is, you know, that is a positive spin.
		I think it's obvious, you know, the policy with South America has been, I mean, America's always had their fingers in that, you know, with the Contras and Bill Clinton and the drug smuggling and all that kind of stuff.
		But, you know, for the past good while, it's been kind of, hey, we're going to focus on the Middle East.
		And the problem is, is that these problems in South America make their way here because when their country does something retarded, these people get in caravans and come bang on the border going in.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		So it's kind of like, well, you know, okay, if we're going to be bothered with this.
		Now, I don't think, I don't know.
		I really don't, I guess I don't have a strong opinion on Maduro.
		I don't keep up with it.
		It's South America.
		I mean, you know, I would like to keep China and Russia out.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's a country that hasn't signed up to the IMF.
		That's what this whole war is about.
		I've heard this from U.S. soldiers and I've heard this from Venezuelans.
		I've heard it from both sides of the both sides of the story.
		And they all agree that they say that's what it's about.
unidentified		Yeah.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's just kind of ridiculous to think about.
		You know, it's like, oh, hey, we don't have, see, because here's why I think they're lying.
		Hey, we don't have missiles, but what are we shooting at these boats?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Missiles.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And missiles don't just grow on trees.
unidentified		Right.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And I think, you know, like, obviously the military, with the budget that we have, we spend a crap ton of money.
		And half of our budget, if not more, is just kind of Black book kind of stuff.
		I think we probably have the missiles.
		I think we probably, you know, but we're sandbagging.
		But I mean, I voted for no more wars because, frankly, we don't have the money to fight a war because we're in debt, you know, and that's why the focus has been on the, you know, the front, you know, the American side of things.
		But yeah, the thing that I've really been kind of focusing on, I think we got a lot of spooks in our media.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		100%.
unidentified		And I think we, I think, and I'm going to, I'm going to name some names.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, I think Candace is a spook for somebody.
		I can't really put my finger on who, but she's either a spook or she needs to be put in a padded room.
		I don't know which one.
		Tucker Carlson.
		You know, it's like, you know, I don't know if you've seen it, but he's back on the attack of Nick Fuentes, right?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've seen it.
		That was a short piece, wasn't it?
		That was a short.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		No, it's just like your dad used his goodwill to try to broker peace, finally gets it.
		And the second Tucker gets a boost in notoriety and gets a few kind words from Nick, it's like, oh, he's just an anti-Sid again.
		And it's like these people, it's just classical, you know, it's counter signaling, it's co-opting.
		They're like, hey, you know, this Charlie Kirk thing, I think, is the biggest thing.
		You know, Candace, like at one point, like when people are telling you, like, hey, Charlie came and told me in a dream, like, why aren't we like sending her to therapy?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		No, that, that, that is nutty.
		And that's one of the main things where people, I've talked to many people about this that are real true Candace believers.
		And I go, look, I mean, if you're having hallucinations about Charlie Kirk, I just, I can't trust you, right?
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like, well, and the thing is, is when you look at who she's married to, which I think I tend to think that her husband's probably her handler.
		It doesn't make any sense otherwise.
		You know, he's got ties to the government in England.
		He's got ties, you know, his outrageously wealthy.
		His father, what was that?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Outrageously wealthy.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, outrageously wealthy.
		He's in control of the Israel Zionist movement in the UK.
		And, you know, it just, it smells like intelligence agency.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know what?
		You want to talk about a spook?
		I don't mean to interrupt you.
		I mean, here's the thing.
		I try to do, I try to do geopolitical news today.
		My mind is frazzled.
		I can go back to my bread and butter, which is the cultural stuff and kind of the media infrastructure.
		I can talk about that all day.
		You know, someone that really stands out to me is Tommy Robinson.
		Really, really, really bad.
		Real bad.
		What do you think about it?
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I think he's, I mean, obviously, I don't care about British politics.
		They're cupped to the extreme.
		Right.
		It's over for them.
		It's over.
		Like, they're like Australia, just like, you know, we'll have a moment of silence and pray for their, you know, their future generations who are going to be in slave camps, but it's over for them.
		But, you know, it's interesting.
		The thing that I find it most interesting, and this is how it kind of ties into, you know, the kind of geopolitical aspect is really do, I think that they're, they're foreign, their foreign intelligence agencies obviously are involved in this and our own combination, you know, because I think, you know, obviously our foreign, all the intelligence agencies work together.
		But, you know, it's like the, it's like the constant, like they couldn't stop the, like, the, you know, the Israel awakening populist movement.
		So what did they do?
		They trotted out their golden boy, you know, Tucker Carlson, which, you know, I know you said he's been anti-war, but his track record is the opposite of that.
		You know, it's like, no, he, he, it's a grift for him because for the, you know, 20 years leading up to that, he was advocating for the war in Iraq.
unidentified		He's so you think he thinks about the level of mass destruction.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You think he, I'm not trying to interrupt you.
		You can get back into that.
		You think he's jumping on, you know, he sees which way the wind is blowing with the way that the populist movement is going towards this issue.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		I think he's inherently dangerous.
		I don't, so the two thoughts that I've had about him is he's either a retard or he's extremely intelligent and he's dangerous and it's on purpose.
		Don't think he's a retard.
		I really don't.
		I think he's dangerous because he's, he's, it's kind of like the half-truth.
		And it's like, so you say enough, you know, basic things to try to gain some credibility.
		And then, you know, like, you know, obviously he brings your dad on to grift off of Alex's credibility.
		He brings on Nick to grift off of Nick's credibility.
		But then like immediately he, he's just, it's always half truth.
		And it's that gatekept, you know, we want a narrative.
		And that's why I think there's at least one agency with him.
		I, and, you know, considering he tried to, you know, that whole, the whole thing with Putin, the comment Putin made to him in the interview, I think people kind of gloss over that.
		You know, when, you know, when Putin called him out for, you know, trying to get in the CIA, I don't think it was a failure.
		I think he got in.
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		No, if you, if you'll watch the interview, okay.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Uh, it, the, um, it was the one Tucker did with Putin.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Has this change of tone, and he's like, Oh, by the way, you know, talk about the agencies.
		And by the way, I know you applied to the CIA and just looked at him dead in the eyes.
		And Tucker was just kind of like, you know, and obviously his dad has connection.
		His dad was intelligence.
		And, you know, I mean, we all saw the exposure that was done on his father.
		Right.
		And then he's like, you know, you've got one of your one interview saying, yeah, my dad was in the CIA.
unidentified		And then he's screaming at Nick, going, How dare you?
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		I didn't even know my dad was.
		I'm saying, no, that was a lie.
		Like, here's the interview from this time.
		You knew you're intentionally misleading people.
		And then I think you've got, you know, it's so I think that's like one pocket of book work going on.
		And then the other one is like the, you know, the Candace Owens.
		Or like I said, she could be crazy.
		I really can't put anything past her, but it's just like, you know, the populist movement, if you can latch yourself to it and discredit it from the inside, do you think the whole thing loses credibility?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Do you think she's running the op of like, of course, like, I believe Charlie Kirk was killed because he was going to stop supporting Israel.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Do you believe she's supposed to come in and make that theory sound crazy?
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		I think that she's trying to discredit the actual, like the actual anti-Israel establishment that we have in the United States.
		So, you know, it's kind of like boy who cried wolf.
		If everything, no matter what, is always Israel, which it is.
		Now, Israel is responsible for a lot of things and a lot of our corruption, sure.
		But we have to be accurate and technical when we critique these things with facts.
		And when it's, I had a dream, it's like, okay, no, you've lost like, and you've either lost your mind or you're running, you're running a psyop on us.
		And you start getting into her connections.
		I mean, she apparently had a, you know, a separation from Daily Wire.
		It's, it's just convenient how it's like, she left Daily Wire, went independent, immediately started critiquing Israel at a normie level, and then now has geared everybody in this direction of like, I don't want to say like Israeli hysteria, but just baseless, you know, like low, like as it said, low IQ anti-Semitism.
		You know what I mean?
		It's like, it's not actual critiquing Jewish power, Jewish structures that are ruling America.
		It's, it's just emotional, uh, mystic, kind of Gnostic, you know, kind of that kind of thing.
		And I think that's a problem that needs to be addressed.
		And I think it's going to take probably somebody like Alex to put an end to it, honestly, because he's really the him, he's really the main guy who still has credibility through all this.
unidentified		But, you know, I mean, yeah.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And I don't know if that's here.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Here's my thing.
		I see my dad supporting a lot of the Venezuela stuff, and I really vehemently disagree with him on that.
		But I see him with his position on the Ukrainian situation.
		I see him with his position on the Charlie Kirk situation.
		From what I've heard and from the private conversations I've had with Alex, he is trying to fact find about that, right?
		And that's that's why, you know, like his opinion on that situation has evolved.
		My opinion on the Charlie Kirk situation is he had built up that turning point infrastructure basically to where that's a turnkey political campaign for anyone they want to insert like that Brian Hollyhand guy, right?
		And it makes sense to take someone like that out so you can then go ahead and run that system.
		And, you know, I'm not speaking ill of his widow at all.
		It's horrible that she lost her husband and all that, but I don't trust her at all.
unidentified		No, well, you know, she's got spooked parents.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Her parents were in the defense contracting really high up in that.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And so allegedly, I'm going to say allegedly, there's some ties to some more food than some kind of corrupt organizations inside of it.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've heard about that.
		I need to do more research on that.
		There's just, it's so, it's so much, it's so much bad, and you can't tell the truth about anything, really.
		You can't tell what's going on.
		You can't really figure it out.
		There's so much, I call it like a shit screen, right?
		Like they just put so much crap out.
		You can't tell what's true and what's not.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
unidentified		Yeah.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And I think that's really that's kind of like what I think the core of the problem is.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Because I mean, you know, it's one of the things where there are only so many people like to get messages to masses who have credibility and know the truth, right?
unidentified		Right.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And they've, they've managed to, you know, obviously Alex is doing everything he can.
		Firmly believe that.
		Like, if there's one person that I don't think has, you know, got the call, it's him.
		Because like, look at the different things.
		You know, he's trying to broker piece in the populist movement.
		He's got the lawsuits.
		He's got, you know, and it's, and then he's having to sift through all this other garbage and smoke screen.
		And it's like they're trying to rip apart this populist movement at the seams.
		And, you know, I'm not an expert in any of that, but you can kind of, you know, just look at the writing on the wall and see what they're trying to accomplish.
		And, you know, like I said, I think they're going to be like parasites.
		They're going to latch themselves on to credible people and try to discredit them.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, and so I would like to see, wouldn't you like to see that turning point, Candace, show or debate or discussion?
		Wouldn't you like to see that?
		I'd like to see that.
		I'd like to see the cards on the table.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		She turned it down.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Because her husband told her not to, supposedly.
		Told her she couldn't.
		I was like, oh, so now you want to be a tribalist?
		Really?
		Now, now we're flopping from e-girl to travel.
		Gotcha.
		Yeah, right.
		Well, and the thing is, I don't trust them because, I mean, you know, as it's apparently, you know, what's been said is that, you know, Charlie's organization had really big, you know, like money influence in the GOP.
		And you can't trust that because that institution is corrupt.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't trust them.
		I saw an expose where someone went out to this building, you know, turning point.
		They got all sorts of different like shell companies and whatnot, like many big organizations do, right?
		And one of them had like $1.5 million sent to this like one strip mall that apparently this state senator or someone owns.
		I don't want to disparage or slander anyone.
		I'm not saying anything as fact.
		This is just a video that I watched.
		And apparently he owns all these various buildings, right?
		These are all these different like strip mall establishments, basically.
		And that's where the turning point money is going to, apparently.
unidentified		Yeah.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, and you know, that really is the only aspect, the only aspect of like, you know, the only, I guess the only way that really it would even possibly make sense that something happened to him, I think would probably be, I don't necessarily think Israel, I think that'd be way too hot for them right now.
		Cause I don't think they're stupid.
		I think they're arrogant and that they're, you know, they feel superior to us, but I don't think they're stupid.
		And there's too much heat on that.
		Like if he was trying to exert too much influence on the GOP and they're like, oh, we got to get rid of this guy before he dominates us.
unidentified		Right.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		That's a possibility.
		But with all the spooks and, you know, and every all these, you know, these tangled webs, it's so convoluted that nobody's going to know truth.
		What I really think is going to happen is there's just going to be a complete collapse.
		Once government loses like 100% of its legitimacy, all this stuff will kind of just fly apart and into chaos, unfortunately.
		But I just really don't see, I don't see a way we fix it short, you know, short of somebody's taking power.
unidentified		But it's like, who do we put there?
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Who's going to do better?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's what I keep saying: there's nowhere you can go to vote against any of this.
		It's all the uniparty.
		It's all the machine.
		And that's the deal that I believe Donald Trump was offered.
		And I've made this point many times on the gray area: he was offered the new Reagan deal to say, hey, look, you're not going to come in here and do all these things that you said you were going to do.
		Why would you want to do all these things?
		It's going to upset everybody and it's going to get you killed.
		Why don't you just become the new leader of the Republican Party?
		Why don't you just become the new Reagan figure and you'll be loved forever as long as you do what we say?
		Yeah, that's what I believe.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Right.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And the problem is, though, is that they lie too.
		They'll betray him.
		And like Trump's already ruined his base.
		MAGA is dead.
		I think we can all say for certain that MAGA is dead.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I think that's true.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's what we're seeing now, it's like it's just lingering elements.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Nobody wants to really admit that the party's over because we all know the implications of, you know, MAGA being over.
unidentified		We know what that's going to mean.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And it means the movement failed.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		In a sense, obviously there were some wins along the way, but I think the bad is starting to quickly outweigh the good.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, he wasn't a wrecking ball.
		He was a building block for the system.
		And like that, that's what it all comes down to for me.
		Do you mind, Newgrouper, if I return you to Q?
		You're making a lot of excellent points.
		And I want to continue this conversation.
		If you want to talk more, I actually have one other person that's been waiting for like 25 minutes.
		I'm going to go to them really quick.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, go ahead.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, go ahead.
		And feel free.
		I'll be hanging around.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Badass, dude.
		Love you very much.
		I'll be right back to you.
		All right.
		And we're going to go to Nimrod Pod now.
		Let's talk to Nimrod Pod.
		Nimrod Pod.
		I'm doing good.
		How are you doing?
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Doing all right, man.
		Wanted to hit on Venezuela really quick.
		I personally think the lack of transparency out of the administration has kind of been nauseating.
		So, you know, to be completely honest, I've been relying on your dad to get some sort of peek behind the curtain of what's really going on.
		But he's really been setting me in circles.
		I think he's spending most of his time exposing the corruption in Venezuela to justify Trump's regime change plans.
		But then he'll come on air the next day and say, you know, he's anti-war and he doesn't support regime change at all.
		I'm anti-war to a fault, but I think there's a there is some sort of justification for what Trump is planning to do in Venezuela.
		I think I don't think that going to war with Venezuela is an impeachable defense, but the more I see the Democrats in the media, I'm starting to think that they're going to use Venezuela as some sort of pretext to impeach Trump.
		So now I'm starting to understand why Alex is defending Trump so much.
		And I wanted to get your opinion on like, is there any sort of justification for going to war in our own hemisphere?
		Like, what would it take for you to say, you know what?
		I'm not going to fight against this.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think what it would take would be Venezuela actually being a legitimate threat to our national security, which I just simply don't think it is.
		I think the drugs are coming from other places and it's very clear where they're coming from, especially the fentanyl, which vastly like vast majority of it is synthesized in Mexico after it comes from China, right?
		And I view the Venezuelan regime.
		I view Maduro, of course, like I do view him as a dictator.
		I do view him as someone that's not good, but I view him as someone that's not a threat to the United States in any real measurable way.
		I view him kind of as like we're the big kid on the playground and we found someone to pick on and we found a justifiable reason to pick on him.
		And that's just what we're doing.
		That's my opinion on that.
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that makes sense.
		And I mean, I'm pretty sure like Trump went after the Mexican cartels in his first administration.
		Now they won't even like some of those Mexican cartels will kill anyone in their network that sells fentanyl to avoid the conflict.
		And now Trump's realizing, oh, shit, people realize that fentanyl is not the problem.
		So now he's blaming other illegal drugs like cocaine and heroin.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		And the thing is, and this is the point that I've made a lot.
		And I'm still a little like, I'm not sick anymore, but I'm a little depleted and my brain isn't running as good as it usually does.
		But how much fentany do you need to bring into the United States?
		If a grain of it can kill 10 people, how much needs to be shipped in all the time, all the time, all the time?
		Like this is what I don't understand.
		It just, it doesn't make sense to me.
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Like, why can't we just shut the door and cut off the fraud and make sure there's no more drugs getting in here and let Venezuela implode on their own, you know, hundreds of hundreds and hundreds of miles away?
		I think where it gets interesting is that I don't think Maduro is just this guy that we're picking on.
		I think Maduro is a total puppet.
		I don't think he has any sort of power.
		Like he was, you know, singing songs about how much they want peace forever with the United States.
		But then he completely flips on a switch last week.
unidentified		Right.
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we know that China is completely entrenched in Central and South America.
		You could say the same about Russia, but I don't think they're a threat.
		I think they share a lot of our values, real America first values.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		But like the fact, yeah, what do you think about China's involvement?
		I mean, this kind of harpens back to like Bay of Pigs type situation.
		At what point is it too much?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		My thing is I don't like the Star Wars narrative.
		I don't like the Star Wars story.
		I don't like the rebel alliance, good guys versus the evil empire, because it's usually not true.
		Both sides are usually, you know, bad in some respect, right?
		I don't believe anyone is an innocent actor on the world stage.
		And for us and for all the evil, frankly, that we've wrought across the world, especially in the past half century, I don't think we have the moral high ground or footing to really just declare impetus to do any of these things.
		And like you say, being anti-war to a fault, I just want the killing and the death and the murder to stop.
		I'm tired of seeing people die.
		And I don't care if they're Venezuelan.
		I don't care if they're Ukrainian.
		I don't care if they're Russian.
		I don't care if they're Chinese.
		I don't care if they're Arab.
		I don't care if they're Palestinian.
		I just want it to stop.
		I'm tired of seeing people get bombed to death.
		And it's like this cool factor that they show on TV.
		They show the missile strikes, that they show the weapons, that they show the engagements.
		And it's like we're supposed to take national pride in that because we can't take national pride in anything else.
		We can't take national pride in our healthcare system.
		Can't take national pride in our infrastructure.
		You can't take national pride in our economy.
		Can't take national pride even in our own people anymore with the violence and everything that's gone on.
		So the only thing we really have left is to declare war because that's the only thing that we're quote unquote good at.
unidentified		Right.
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		And as you said earlier, it's like we completely voted against war and now they're posting memes and they're bragging and all these videos and they're talking shit on X about going to war with Venezuela, how we're going to kick their ass.
		But then they're not telling, they're not giving us any reason or any real justification as to why they're doing it.
		I think just the entire communication apparatus and the transparency out of the administration is going to be their downfall.
		That's why we're going to lose midterms.
		And that's probably why we're going to lose 2028 unless Clint does find someone to challenge them.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's the real thing is like, you know, until the administration started actually doing stuff.
		I mean, when Trump got shot, I pulled the cross out of my shirt.
		I told people to vote for him, right?
		Because I thought that they were trying to kill him for a reason.
		And I thought that he truly was going to do great things for the country.
		And I thought that he was going to stop the death.
		Like, that's, I believed, and, you know, a part of me still wants to believe that Trump is anti-war and that Trump doesn't want to do this stuff.
		But the more and more we see of it, I think he's been convinced that it's cool and it's his right to do it.
		And he's got a mandate to do it.
		And, you know, we cite the Monroe Doctrine.
		We cite that this is happening in our own hemisphere.
		So we have the impetus and right to do it.
		And, you know, I guess that's more of a justification than actions in Eastern Europe or the Middle East or any other place across the globe.
		I get that it's closer to us and that it impacts us more, at least on a theoretical level.
		But the thing I have a problem with is why are we even doing this at all?
		And I just, I keep repeating that, but I just, why are we killing people?
		Why aren't we, instead of nuking these boats from orbit, why aren't we, like that video I showed at the beginning of the broadcast, why aren't we actually interdicting these boats and stopping these people and taking them at gunpoint and taking them in for questioning and taking the drugs?
		You know, it's like I said, a cop will pull someone over and take a pipe and an ounce of weed from someone and they'll put it on a table like they've done a great thing.
		Why haven't we seen a display of that?
		Why haven't we seen any of these drugs seized?
		You know?
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		You're absolutely spot on.
		And the reality is while we're spending money to Ukraine and Israel and we're going to war with Venezuela, I'm not going to be able to buy a house until I'm in my late 30s.
		And if I don't have a house, I can't start a family.
		And I can, I mean, I haven't profited a single dollar since I graduated from college.
		It all goes to my expenses.
		Like we're just getting completely pounded.
		But we're supposed to be just going on with sending 30 plus percent of our annual salary to the government so they can keep doing this shit and keep fucking us over.
unidentified		Yeah.
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		And I think we're in for a rude awakening, Rex.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		No, I agree.
		And I think it, you know, New Groiber made the point of, you know, maybe we're sandbagging.
		Maybe we do have these munitions.
		Maybe we do have the capability to actually wage all these wars.
		And we're kind of, you know, pretending like kind of palpitine, like, oh, I'm too weak.
		I'm too weak.
		I'm too weak.
		I see it kind of from a middle of the road perspective.
		I believe we do probably have more weapons.
		I believe we do probably have more capabilities than we let on.
		But on the flip side of that, if we have to go to that level and we have to release the secret stuff we have, I think that's really the end stage of America, right?
		If we reach that level.
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Like we're heading towards an AI Armageddon where it's going to be running our country.
		It's going to be making all of our decisions for us.
		We're going to be in our Wally chair jerking off and watching fucking cartoons from our, you know, rotting, basic, basic, basic rot.
		I mean, it's we're kind of fucked there.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And who, who cares if it's Jose in the field when 10 years it's going to be a robot, you know, and then the robot's going to fight the war too.
		And then how do you fight against that?
		How do you fight against the state police that are robots?
		How do you fight against the military that are robots?
		How do you fight against the workers that are now robots?
		And Americans will be displaced and they'll bring in a new digital currency that's based on our debt probably and they'll declare UBI and they'll say, hey, it's great now.
		No one has to work anymore.
		And I think war will always continue.
		I think it'll just get more efficient and more drilled down.
		And ultimately, what they want is less people, right?
		Because we got too many people on the planet.
		We got too many useless leaders.
		We got too many people that the elites view as subhuman that shouldn't exist when they're building the system where none of us are needed, right?
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		100%.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Do you have another point or topic you want to get into here?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know there's Venezuela in one other thing.
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, just one other thing.
		I know you're a massive fan of his.
		So I just wanted to hear your take on the Benny Johnson allegations from Milo.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		About him being gay?
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I mean, he wrote for BuzzFeed, right?
		I mean, here's my thing.
		I view Benny Johnson as despicable because he's an access journalist.
		He's probably the king of access journalism.
		I view Benny Johnson as bad because why is he on a plane talking to Trump when all the people that actually fought for Trump and fought to get him elected, they're kind of iced out and sidelined.
		I just, I view him as a nothing burger of a person, really.
		And he's just a plug-in for the state.
		You know, I don't even really care about his sexuality that much.
		I'm just, I'm disturbed at all the accounts that just parrot everything the administration says and act like that's MAGA and that's good and that's what we voted for.
		When, you know, like Negroper said, I think MAGA's kind of dead.
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		It is dead.
		I mean, you see people like Benny Johnson.
		I don't know if he ever was like a reputable independent journalist, considering Kim from Buzzfeed, but then you all see guys like Nick Sorter who like were these fantastic independent journalists that were, you know, fighting for populism and humanity and the American First Movement.
		Now they're just total fills for the administration.
		It's like, how do people turn on their dimes so fast?
		It's sick.
		And to be honest with you.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it's like I don't care if Benny's gay or not.
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's like you talk about like you go to college, you have to pay that off.
		It's hard to afford things or pay bills in modern America, but we're told that we're winning, we're winning, we're winning.
		It's all these wins 24-7 when on the ground, like, I mean, I make a lot of money and stuff's still really expensive for me.
		And it's really expensive to run a business and pay employees, right?
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		100%.
		So, I mean, I do think there is some pretty interesting evidence that he may have actually been gay.
		I'm not sure if you looked into it at all, but it would be quite the surprise if he ended up being a gay guy.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, they're probably all gay.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I just, I don't, my perspective on it is I look at these people and whether it's Benny, whether it's Gunther, whether it's Mike Cernovich, like pretty much anyone that was handed a binder, right?
		I look at them as state operatives.
		So like, I just, that's, it's like Negroper said, spooks, right?
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, for sure.
		Yeah, I appreciate taking my questions.
		I think you're spot on on the Venezuela thing.
		I think you're always pretty spot on when it comes to geopolitics.
		So I appreciate you, you know, being another voice that we can rely on.
		It's getting really hard to figure out who's on our side and who's not.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So keep playing a good fight.
		I appreciate that.
		Look, I just want an end to the killing.
		I want an end to the death.
		And I want pro-prosperity, pro-peace stuff to happen for America.
		And when you look at the Russia-Ukraine conflict, like you said, I think you're pretty, you know, like you have a pretty positive view of Russia.
		And as do I, to be quite frank, like they have the resources we need.
		They've offered to partner with us.
		They have things to develop the Arctic that we don't have.
		And they're willing to make these deals with us.
		And we kind of turn up our nose at them and we say, hey, you're still this, you know, post-Soviet era power that's weak and we can bully you and push you around when really, you know, talk about the new world order that's been built.
		The new world order that's been built has been built to destabilize and weaken America.
		And it seems like our own leaders do this by design, right?
		And if we truly wanted a strong, prosperous country, we would make allies out of people that should be our allies.
		We make enemies out of people that should be our enemies, but we do the reverse.
		We make our enemies our allies.
		We make our allies our enemies.
		That's my view.
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		It's my view too.
		I mean, it's hard to know who you can believe in.
		So I think, you know, I keep trying to think of ways that I can help, ways that I can contribute.
		And I'm trying to find people that I can actually listen to that are telling the truth.
		And I always go down this spiral of doom and despair.
		But in reality, the only option I have in my life is Christ.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's all together.
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate the fact that you actually talk about your faith.
		And I think more people should.
		So I'd love to see maybe some biblical deep dives out of you and Tim.
		You guys do a good job with the deep dive.
		So I think it would, you know, mean a lot for the audience.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's a good idea.
		We should definitely do that.
		You know, something I want to do is a review of the Schofield Bible and the changes that were made.
		And really, if you look at it, not to get too deep into the Israel topic, I was kind of, you know, my mission for today was like, okay, can I do a show where I don't talk about Israel for half the time?
		Kind of like my dad, I don't want to talk about Israel.
		And then he spends kind of an hour trying to talk, not talk about Israel, right?
		Like that's, that's kind of how the show goes.
		But at the end of the day, when it comes down to it, like our government is compromised, right?
		And like 432 members of Congress and then most of all the Senate, they all take the AIPAC money and there's no one you can vote for that doesn't.
		I mean, MTG, she's dropping out and I guess Massey is still around and whatnot.
		But it seems like they're all kind of bought into one political viewpoint that really is a religious theocratic viewpoint of, you know, we are the Christian evangelicals.
		And in order to be blessed, we must support this state that really, you know, hates us and hates, you know, populations of people and wants to kill them.
		And I haven't talked about it in the past few shows, but it's not like Gaza didn't happen, right?
		It's not like that genocide didn't happen.
		I mean, they've killed hundreds of thousands of people there.
		They've wounded even more.
		I mean, you just look at the aid sites, the places that they set up when they kicked the UN out.
		They said the UN is, ah, Hamas is stealing the food.
		We got to get rid of these 400 UN aid centers.
		They open up four.
		And I think the number is like, it's even higher now.
		But when I looked at it, it was like 12,000 people seriously injured just going to get food and water.
		And that's stuff that the American government supports, right?
		And I didn't vote for that.
		And I guess I naively hope that it might stop under Trump.
		But I mean, you look into Trump's background, there's really no one more pro-Israel and they're allowed to do whatever they want.
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
		I mean, Israel is about 50% of the reason I decided to start reading the Bible cover to cover.
		And like once you read the Old Testament, you kind of understand how the Jewish people and the people that run the state of Israel got to be the way that they are.
		I think an interesting deep dive you guys could do is like dispensationalism versus covenant theology.
		I think there's overwhelming evidence that there is a transformation of Israel from the Old Testament to the New Testament.
		It goes from Abraham's ethnic descendants to followers of Christ, like Big C, the church.
		So that would be an interesting one to hear from you guys.
unidentified		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, and I agree with you.
		That's a fascinating topic.
		Do you have anything else you want to close on?
		I'm going to go back to New Groyper.
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		So that's all.
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate you having me on.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 100%, man.
		Call in again.
		Thanks for joining us.
		Thank you very much.
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		We'll do.
nimrod pod in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Thanks.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Peace.
		All right.
		I'm going to go actually, you know what, New Groyper?
		I'm going to go back to you in a little bit.
		We've got another caller on the line.
		He's been on the line for 10 minutes.
		Apple Killer Venezuela.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Owl, Owlkiller.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Owl Killer.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		All right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
		The call screener is a little primitive.
		How are you doing, man?
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		No, you're good.
		I'm pretty good.
		So, you know, just I think people need to be a little cautious with this whole Venezuela thing.
		And there's certain things that have, I've been picking up on, and there's certain characters that I think are sent out to basically target some of the alternative media.
		And I think your dad has been a victim of that in the past.
		And I'm not going to say anybody's name in particular, but you remember a certain TIA operative from the 60s and 70s that went on your dad's show for about 10 years.
		And he was the first one to interject that Sandy Hook shooting was a false flag.
		Are you picking up what I'm putting down?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Last name start with a P?
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		You notice he didn't get sued, but he was the first one to go on your dad's show and put that information out there.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		And so, so, and you're familiar with, I think it's Rob O'Neill, the Navy SEAL that killed Bin Laden.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, killed Bin Laden.
unidentified		Yeah.
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Well, why this stuck out to me really important?
		Like, why this became something I'm like, okay, I think these operatives are being sent to target the alternative media.
		The person that we were just talking about, whose name begins with a P, when I told your dad about 2010-ish or 2009 timeframe, that Bin Laden died in a hospital in Dubai with Marfan syndrome.
		Well, Rob O'Neill gave an interview.
		I want to say it was, I want to say it was Tucker Carlson, but it could have been somebody.
		It might have even been on your dad's show saying how without anybody bringing it up, they put that out there as a to they put out that Marfan syndrome thing as a way to know if somebody was giving him real information or not, because that was not true.
		He was never being treated for it.
		So what that tells me is that basically that information that was being relayed to your dad for about 10 years about bin Laden and other topics, that basically we were being basically that was an entire psyop.
		And I'm starting to see it with the Venezuela thing now.
		You got Patrick Byrne coming on.
		It basically is the same cast of characters that were all part of that crack and crap with the 2020 election.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I hear that.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		And so now, so now what, now they're saying that definitely Venezuela was in the elections.
		Well, I'm really getting sick of the stay tuned to the next episode type of thing.
		Like that is the case.
		Present us the evidence now.
		And then I think that that is a justified thing.
		If what Patrick Byrne was was saying last week on your dad's show, that they've been overthrowing, that General Flynn was flipping out because they were overthrowing elections for 20 years all around the globe.
		That is a legitimate reason to take action.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right, but they say this and they make this claim that this small South American government is responsible for the voting machines and all this stuff and all the political infiltration.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I agree with you.
unidentified		I think it's BS.
unidentified		Well, not BS.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Like, we got to stop being strung along.
		We got to stop being strung along with, hey, stay tuned to the next episode.
		And I love Candace, but she does the same damn thing where it's like, I'm being targeted, but you don't present any evidence.
		So, if this is the case, if Venezuela is really doing all this, doing all this evil and uh, Mount is basically the, the devil inside of Latin America then like, present the evidence and you will get gain the support.
		Now what, what I do see is I actually think Venezuela and you notice that Colombia is also coming up too as well right right, right with with that president over there I actually think this is, take out Venezuela and Colombia and to cut bricks off, to cut Brazil off from bricks.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		You take out the two countries, you take out the two countries bordering them, because you you, if you go into, if you were to overthrow Brazil whether it's a color revolution or whatever they're planning if you were to overthrow Brazil, you're going to have Venezuela and Colombia intervene.
		I believe, and especially if you have Venezuela, that is basically a Russian satellite country or a Chinese satellite country operating in our backyard.
		You know that.
		That that, if you want to take that out first before Brazil um, that I I, I actually think it's more of an economic thing um, more so than hey, they're.
		They're running drugs because like, as you were pointing out, you know the drugs are coming from Colombia and they're coming from Mexico.
		I've never like this is this idea that Venezuela is this narco state?
		This is, this is like within the last year, I hadn't, i'd never heard that in my entire life, and this is you know what i'm saying.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So yeah no no, it's brand new.
		And we didn't hear about this until really like midway through this year when they started kind of preloading this and and now, like they're the evil titan that's always existed, messing with our elections and bringing in the drugs.
		And the thing that bothers me is you got Trump the Fifa World Cup, getting the Fifa Peace Prize or whatever bs thing, Administrum, and is sitting right next to Shine Bomb, and Shine Bomb is immensely corrupt.
		Shine Bomb is connected with the cartels and the drugs.
		They come from Mexico.
		They come from Mexico, but there you have Trump sitting right next to her.
		Hey, they're politically aligned.
		So for me, and it's like you say, like whether it is bs or not, and ultimately, like i'm just a guy sitting in a studio right now, I ultimately am not tapped in, I don't know.
		I just want to see the evidence right, like I want to see the drugs on the boats.
		How hard would it be to stop one of these boats, like like that video I just showed, and then you lay the drugs on the table, you say this is what they had, this is what we got, these are the people we took in.
		We interrogated them, they gave us this intelligence, and then I would say okay, but we haven't been given one example of that.
		And it's the same with the elections.
		We, we kind of hear these narratives from these people that are apparently in the know and they come on and you know, they've been kind of shown to give false information, in fact kind of entrap people and get them in trouble.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		yeah for for sure and i think that it's imperative that we pay attention and i would relay that information to your dad that to be be on the so for for example just a perfect example right how for about a month three four weeks how long were they telling us that it was a that that female cop that was the one responsible for the um for the pipe bomb right and i bought into that 100 hook line and And look, look who ends up getting, look who ends up getting charged, right?
		So that's what I'm saying.
		I think there's a lot of disinformation being brought out, being brought out now.
		And like the whole, the best disinformation people give you 90% truth.
		So like they relate, like Nick Sortor has been phenomenally accurate with things that have been going on with inside the FBI, right?
		But he was the one that was just, he was going on about three weeks ago about how it was this female cop.
		It was him, correct?
		That was on your dad's show?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I believe so.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I believe so.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Right.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		He's the FBI agent that was fired, correct?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm not entirely sure.
		I'm not entirely sure.
		I didn't follow that as close as I don't think I watched that show, but I'll take your word for it.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm pretty sure that he's like a frequent guest.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		It's an ex-FBI agent that was a whistleblower and he ended up getting fired.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I think you're referring to Kyle Serafin.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
		Okay, that's the name.
		I'm sorry.
		I apologize to Nick then.
		It's Kyle Serafin.
		So he was the one that was for that was going off about how him and the guy from the Blaze, that it was this female cop that was shooting the rubber bullets first.
		And she was the one that they had known forever based on how she walks and her having an injury in college.
		And then the alternative media is running with this stuff, pressuring the administration to do something, make an arrest.
		This person is in a safe house, supposedly hiding out.
		And look who ends up getting arrested.
		So it's stuff like that, where it's like, okay, we really need to be cautious with the information that we're getting.
		And like, at the end of the day, like, what nothing ever, it's basically like staying, it's a soap opera.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Nothing ever comes.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		It comes off to jail.
		And, you know, we just keep getting strung along and it goes on for years.
		And it's, it's like a, I do want to say one thing.
		I think that Trump is, I think Trump and the Department of War are making a mistake in even entertaining this war crime crap.
		And I'm going to give you a good example.
		The whole thing with if Venezuela is doing what they're saying they're doing, then just shut up and keep taking out the boats.
		That's that's the way I look at it.
		If they're doing what they're, if Venezuela is really doing what they say they're doing, just keep taking out the boats.
		But the fact that you entertain this stuff, this is where the, where the whole Russia collusion thing took off, where Russia collusion is not a, it's not, it's not like collusion is not a criminal statute.
		But because you were defending yourself, trying to defend yourself in the media about this garbage, you ended up digging yourself in.
		You get your sessions recuses himself.
		He never should have recused himself.
		There was nothing to recuse himself about.
		He fires Comey for saying it was because of Comey and the Russia collusion stuff when he just should have fired him outright to begin with.
		But it's like you actually entertain these people's complaints.
		Like they have no problem when you're for 20 years in the war on terror, our drones are killing a 10 to 1 civilian ratio.
		And there's no complaints about that.
		But do you actually want to answer these people back with the whole, I would just completely ignore it as far as I'm concerned.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I take your point.
		I take your opinion.
		I understand it.
		I get what you're saying here.
		You're saying, hey, if we've been doing these, like really on its face, illegal military actions for decades across various countries, why would you bring like, why would you make it the center issue that you're doing it in Venezuela again when we've been doing it all across the planet?
		I'm against it anywhere and everywhere.
		That's why I'm against it in Venezuela.
		And that is why I consider it to be a war crime.
		But it is like the administration setting itself up for impeachment, setting itself up for failure, and really setting itself up for failure in the midterms, right?
		I saw this thing where, and this is unrelated, right?
		But this is just interesting.
		This is just how the Republicans shoot themselves in the foot and lose election after election after election when they're given mandates to win, like the first Trump election and the second Trump election, where he won both over 300 electoral votes.
		Why would you remove Juneteenth and MLK as like free entry days to the national parks, but then make your birthday a free entry day to the national park?
		Why would you like just why would you do it?
		Just explain to me how that policy change helps anything, makes sense in any way, is in any way something that you should do.
		It's purely like it's a, it's an owning the libs, but it's also like an owning yourself.
		It's this sick, cyclical cycle we go down, and this is how we lose elections.
		And that's the thing that pisses me off: I'm not someone that was anti-Trump and he got elected, and I'm anti-Trump after he got elected.
		I was pro-Trump when he got elected, and I liked his platform.
		I liked all the things that he was saying, right?
		But when it came down to it, he did the exact opposite of everything that he promised he would do.
		And I just look at it and I go, damn, you know, not only am I upset at you for breaking your promises and not doing what you promised to do, I'm upset at you because you're handing these evil people a free fucking win.
		And he hands them free win after free win after free win after free win.
		And it's at a certain point where you can go, look, the classic argument for his first term is, oh, Trump had bad people.
		He's not a politician.
		He didn't know who to appoint.
		So the swamp creatures got in charge.
		And that's why the first administration was bad.
		You look at the second administration, it's possibly even worse, right?
		It's the same mistake that's made over and over again to a point where you can look at it and go, hey, maybe this isn't a mistake.
		Maybe this isn't a bug.
		Maybe this is a feature of the system.
		And I think, you know, we viewed Trump as an accelerationist candidate, right?
		We viewed him as someone that was a wrecking ball for the system.
		You can look at anyone, left, right, or center.
		That's what they believed about Trump, especially in the 20 teens, right?
		And that's why he was elected, especially the first time.
		And it seems like he's a building block of the system to me.
		What do you think?
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I could, no, I could definitely, I definitely see your point towards that.
		I, I mean, I had said a couple shows ago to you that in all honesty, somebody's just going to have to have the balls to say, okay, the system is too far gone and you're going to need to start over as far as like from an economic standpoint.
		And I think that we don't, I don't, I don't, I think like he's, even if he has those instincts to do that, that there's something that, and like when you're starting to see this Venezuela thing heating up, what is going on again, the same thing that was going on with the when the Iran thing happened, it was the peace negotiations with Russia.
		We get the military industrial complex sucks us into this every time that he's trying to, every time he's trying to make a peace deal, we get sucked into a conflict in some part of the world.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, and I think that I just don't think he wants to bear responsibility because either, you know, fortune favors the both.
		Either he's going to be the leader that leads us in the free world out of this debt bondage, or we're going to have a collapse.
		And it's one of the two.
		And, you know, he's, he's, he has said, he has made some recent statements where he said, you know, we're on the cusp.
		We can go either bad.
		He just made that statement.
		I think it was Friday.
		And I had yet to hear him actually say what, you know, the people that are informed know what's going on.
		I just, I think like the only, you're going to have to have some very smart people that have a, you know, that actually have a plan for us, like for, because I don't have the brain for that.
		And I'm smarter than most people.
		Like I, I don't, I don't know how to navigate us out of this, you know, navigate through this storm.
		And, you know, it almost seems like the globalists have these contingency plans built in where, you know, no matter where, like, no matter if we go this way, you know, it's like choosing your own destination, but it's choosing your own path, but you end up at the same destination.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Unfortunately, I think what it is, and I've heard the guys on the Judison show make this point over and over again, and I really agree with it.
		They need things to keep ticking along.
		They need the American public to remain complacent.
		They need the gradual decline to last just long enough for the automation to come in.
unidentified		And then when the robots run everything, right?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		What do you think of that?
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		And oh, yeah, no, absolutely.
		Then we're absolutely done.
		And, you know, I just heard Elon Musk say, you know, outside of like, he's like being a plumber, you know, being a welder, you know, an electrician, like almost all jobs are going away.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Like there's going to be, and they're like, they don't have anything for us right now.
		You know what I mean?
		Like, I think that's what, like, they don't have a plan for what to do with the actual population once automation does kick in.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's what all that's what all the environmental poisoning is about.
		That's what the collapse of the economy is about.
		That's what it's a controlled collapse.
		And the thing is, like, like you're, I assume you're pro-life, right?
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm very pro-life.
		I'm radically pro-life, right?
		And I view that position in order to be ideologically consistent with holding a pro-life position.
		You actually have to be able to afford having children in this country and actually able to afford to feed them and send them to the country.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, for sure.
		And like, it seems like everything has been done to make it damn near impossible.
		I want to say there's a, do you remember that John T. Haldran?
		He made that, he wrote that book, Eco Science.
unidentified		He was Obama's climate czar.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Fill me in.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Your dad hit big on this in that Endgame documentary in 2009 when he made that.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		They even write about how they were going to make it, they were going to make it pretty, they wanted to actually make you pay money to have kids.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		So like, you know, they make it damn near impossible to, and you know, it's the same thing.
		Are you familiar with Aaron Russo?
		He died, but your dad interviewed him a few times.
		He made that documentary, America, Freedom of Fascism.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I believe so.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so he gave an interview.
		He died of prostate cancer, but he gave an interview one point when he was saying how one of the Rockefellers asked him, hey, do you, do you know what women's suffrage was about?
		And he goes, yeah, I think it's about like women's rights, you know, civil rights, things like that.
		And he goes, no, you idiot.
		It was about taxing the other half of the population and getting the kids in the government indoctrination centers earlier.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Dink, dual income, no kids.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's what they want.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Dual income.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		Like it is by design.
		Like it's made for you to not be able to have kids.
		And I think that may be their undoing.
		The fact that, you know, Gerald Salenti has said, and I agree with him on this, when people lose everything, yeah, when people lose everything, they have nothing left to lose, they lose it.
		I think that is where they've bitten off more than they can chew.
		It's the sense that your generation does not owe my generation or the boomers a damn thing.
		But you're being basically, at best, you're being held in place.
		And at worst, you guys are going to have worse life than your parents did.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		Shorter life, less quality of life, more sickness, more death, more debt.
		That's what it all is.
		And that's kind of the stated mission.
		And that's why you look at Gen Z specifically, both left and right, just you look at the levels of real like extremism, populism on both sides of the equation.
		That's where it's all coming from.
		It's very apparent that there is no future.
		And if the right wing of freedom and pro-human and populism is co-opted or dead, or if it's represented by Trump, who really, I believe at this point, is the antithesis of all those things, if that's shown to be false and fake, then people my age are going to gravitate towards socialism and communism ultimately, right?
		And they're going to be willing to accept that system.
		And of course, it won't even be a true socialism or a true communism situation.
		It'll be a techno-feudalism situation where they're just going to focus on whittling the population down and making you accept your own replacement, which will be the robot.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Well, you may get people to buy into that initially, but once people see that it does not deliver, you are going to have uncontrolled, you're not going to be able to control the population.
		Like I told you guys this, I used to laugh when people would say that the military was going to be used against the American citizens.
		I know what it takes to take Iraq.
		I know what happened in Afghanistan.
		There's not a chance in hell you could take the American population.
		And if your generation is faced with, hey, we got nothing to lose, the globalists have a major problem on their hands.
		Like, I think that that is why they just haven't brought the system down because that's one wildcard they can't control.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		And that's why I think they're waiting for the robot army.
		And that sounds silly or whatnot, but I completely want to.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not silly.
		It's not silly.
		It's not silly.
		It's like you're seeing that in Ukraine.
		Right.
		Go watch.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Great point.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Go watch those.
		You're watching World War I trench warfare, and then the freaking hunter killer flies right over you and drops a bottom.
		Like some of those videos are horrifying.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it's the worst stuff I've ever seen besides Gaza.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		But that's all I wanted to talk about today, Ben.
owl killer in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Good show.
unidentified		Thank you.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, Owl Killer.
		Really appreciate you.
		And please call in again.
		Appreciate your call.
		Thank you.
		All right.
		We're going to go to Jefferson and Virginia.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		What's up, Rex?
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Who's your co-host?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is Big Will Dolla Bill, also known as White Chocolate.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's doing some homework right now with White Chocolate.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		I just joined the show like 25 minutes ago, so I was listening to Al go on and on and on.
		Lots of good points.
		Interesting discussion.
		What's the solution to our conundrum here?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I think it's awareness of the situation.
		I think it's awareness that whoever you vote for, they're not going to actually do what you want them to do or what they represent themselves as being as a politician.
		I think the solution is having an actually informed public that realizes that the coming threat really is the techno-feudalism and the rise of the AI army.
		That's what I'm talking about here today.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Not going to be able to vote our way out of this because the people that we vote into office are uh, traitorous and bought off and and blackmailed.
		And the judges and our legal system are all bought off and blackmailed and and it's.
		It's just a uh, it's a I don't know a fool's errand to think that somehow politically, we're going to get out of this mess without some sort of radical uh proposal, so to speak, to say look, this is, this is the terms of your surrender.
		Right, we got to tell these people, this is how it's got to go down.
		There's going to be some sort of truth and reconciliation, public uh grand jury kind of thing, where we basically say look, you can confess to all you did that was traitorous and we'll let you live amongst us.
		You won't prosper here any longer, but you can still be here, right?
		We're gonna have to recalibrate the whole system based on all the fraud that's gone on since you know the, the beginning of the creation of the Federal Reserve BANK and and everything that happened after.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right now, I agree with that, I agree right yeah my, my main my, my main conundrum, when I think about things, I I, I really I looked at Trump as a hero figure for basically an entire decade of my life, you know, or not a decade of my life, but like six seven, eight years, he really I, I believed in the guy.
		And then, you know, the thing that really woke me up, even more than the the war issue, is the Epstein issue.
		Right because like, this is what they ran on, this is what they promised to be released, and then he never existed, he never trafficked anybody, xyz.
		That really shows that it is all a big club and you can't vote your way out of it.
		Because we were directly told that we could vote our way out of having these corrupt, pedophile politicians.
		We were told that he was going to expose them.
		And then, of course, Cash and Dan Bongino and Trump himself.
		They, they all make the claims that that that in fact never happened.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		You know, I still haven't figured out who exactly Trump is protecting with the Epsilon file thing.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		It's got to be Adelson or Wexner or some of his Jewish friends.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I think it's.
		I think it's all the people with the money.
		Yeah no, I agree, I agree with you 100 and I.
		He may be implicated, he may not be implicated, I.
		I think it's pretty clear that he Knew Epstein was very deeply connected with him.
		I'm not sure what he did or what he did not do, but to act like you know, it is a big club, isn't it right?
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		But I don't think he's protecting himself from the blackmail.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		I think he's protecting people that he considers supporters and friends and patriots and that are also Zionists unfortunately, doesn't he?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Doesn't he want to be friends with the worst peaceful people possible?
		And doesn't he take his friends that actually support him and push him to the side?
		This is what we see over and over again.
		Like he's a weekly listener of Mark Levin's show.
		He makes the statement himself right, Mark Levin Anti-trumper, Never Trumper.
		But that's the type of person he's willing to support.
		And he won't talk to my father like, explain this to me why.
		Why does Benny Johnson get to go on the jet but my dad's not on the jet with Trump?
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Well, your dad says he turns down the invitations to be.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't, I don't, I don't know if I buy that or not.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if I.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Well, I I can understand the thinking that, unless you're going to have a weekend to bend his ear and and get responses back Back.
		You can't just go into Mar-a-Lago and talk to him for an hour, expect you're going to get anywhere.
		But they're just going to sort of pat you on the head and say, okay, thanks for your input.
		But here's the one thing.
		I just don't understand why if Trump wants to make the case that the 2020 election was stolen, he doesn't have Pam Bondi get Tina Peters out of Colorado.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Amen.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		This should not be, right?
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		This should not be a difficult thing to do.
		All he has to do is get Pam Bondi to file a federal case against Colorado in a federal election violation, any technicality.
		You just say we're suing Colorado.
		Tina is a federal witness, so she's coming out.
		She's a witness protection program.
		She's in danger there in Colorado because we're suing Colorado.
		So you can't hold her any longer.
		The supremacy clause allows the federal government to step in and take custody of Tina.
		She won't be freed.
		She will simply be in safer custody, but still be held essentially in prison, but by people that are looking out for her better interests.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's a great point, man.
		That's a phenomenal point.
		Get into that a little bit more.
		I agree.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		I just don't understand how all these lawyers can be around Donald Trump.
		And this has been suggested on the internet for weeks now, at least, that somebody should say she should be in federal witness protection long ago.
		And when they ask for her to be freed, all Pam Bondi says is, well, Trump can't pardon her, so I can't free her.
		So we keep using the wrong terminology.
		Every time we say we want her freed, when that's not what we really want, we want her in different custody.
		We want her in someone that's in protective custody rather than the right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		So, so always saying we need Tina freed works against us because I let that dimwit, Pam Bondi, say, well, she hasn't been pardoned, so I can't free her.
		And that's not what we're asking for.
		We just want her to be safely out of Colorado in custody.
		She's still not on her own.
		She's not free to do whatever she wants, but she's protected.
		And that's the thing we need.
		And then she can be a witness and what be deposed.
		She can give a deposition about what she knows for the federal case.
		So even if she died after being taken into federal protection, we would still have an affidavit that could be used in court.
		And then this whole election fraud thing could be unschooled or however you want to say it, snowballed into a business.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I do believe the 2020 election was stolen.
		I believe it's as plain as day: 81 million votes for Joe Biden.
		I call BS on that on its face.
		I just, I simply don't believe in that.
		I don't believe that it's true.
		And you look at that period of time, that dark age, really, of the Biden presidency, where Trump's being indicted, Trump's being persecuted, all of Trump's biggest supporters are the same as happening to them.
		People are being sued like my father and whatnot.
		People like Tina Peters put in jail.
		And he comes back into office and he still signals and makes the points and actually makes it a point to bring up that the election is stolen and XYZ and this, that, and the other thing, but he doesn't do anything about it ever.
		I can't parse out his motivation.
		I really have a hard time understanding Donald Trump.
		He's an enigma to me.
		And I thought I did get him, but I guess I was just a fool to believe that.
		He really, he really is.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		I think the Tina Peters issue should be like our ultimatum to him, like a loyalty test to the people.
		If you're not willing to do whatever has to be done to get her out, then there's something wrong with you.
		Whether the Epstein files or Tina Peters, take your pick.
		But I would certainly prefer Tina get out of Colorado first.
		And then we were about Epstein after that.
		But I mean, these things were promised to us.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		And I don't know what the problem is, but we as a people have to say, look, we're your supporters, but you've got to do what we demand you do, you know, just as a show of faith.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, and I think that's what the American people have been like.
		At first, it was expecting that when he first gets into office, then it was hoping for that after a little while, after him not making the right moves.
		And then it was us being disgruntled and us being disgruntled right now that it's not happening.
		And I just, I don't see, I don't think he cares a lot.
		I don't think he gives a fuck about his supporters.
		I don't, I, I just, I don't see the motivation for any kind of positive move on our behalf after everything that we've done for Trump, after everything that people like, you talk about Tina Peters, Tina Peters being in jail.
		Like he, he could do these things easily.
		He could take her into protective custody easily.
		He could use the supremacy clause, like you talk about easily, but he doesn't do it.
		But he signals, he talks about it, he tweets about it.
		That's almost worse than doing nothing and being quiet about it, in my opinion, because it's giving false hope.
		And then I see all the big Twitter accounts.
		They'll retweet stuff like that.
		They'll post stuff like that, but then nothing ever happens.
		And those people, when they meet with Trump or get access, journalism, access to Trump, they're not talking to him about Tina Peters.
		They're not talking to him about the Epstein files.
		They're wearing an alligator Alcatraz shirt.
		I mean, it's sick, in my view.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, it's just quite disappointing that there are plenty of people that are trying to get information to him that never seems to get through in a way that he could confront the people that are misadvising him.
		I mean, I understand Todd Blanche and Tam Bondi are pretty much worthless in terms of giving him good advice about what can and can't be done legally by the federal government.
		So he needs to talk to Andrew Bailey or something that's over at the FBI doing nothing that we know of at the moment, but who is a former AG in Missouri, he can tell him, obviously you can get Tina Peters out, but you do need to file a federal case.
		So there's a reason for her to be a federal witness.
		Until you file a federal case, she's not a federal witness.
		So it's just, it's a mere two-step process that Pam Bondi should be able to do in an afternoon.
		But, you know, she's always putting on her makeup and getting ready to go on Fox News and never at her desk.
		So, I mean, it's just, you need to, you need to put some sort of camera person on Pam Bondi 24-7, just Bondi camera and say, what are you doing today at your desk?
		Nothing?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Right.
		And I, I think that that is the, I literally, I think that they've been told that they're supposed to do nothing.
		I think that they've been told they're supposed to tow a party line.
		I think they've been told that they can signal certain things to appease the base, but hey, you're not really going to go that way because if you go that way, we're going to hit you hard.
		I think they're all compromised.
		That's my opinion.
unidentified		That's what I believe.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Well, at least the top two at the DOJ have issues.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what's happening below that level.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, if you look at what happened with us, I mean, my dad, when I was, I was so happy to go see him meet with Ed Martin and talk to him and do all this stuff.
		And look, the FBI and the DOJ, whatever you think about the case, whatever you think about the judgment and all of it, it's illegal on its face because the federal government funded these lawsuits against us.
		Right.
		So immediately that should render them null and void.
		You shouldn't be able to do that.
		And I know it's not as serious as a case of a woman being in jail that shouldn't be in jail, but ultimately, I just harken back to the point of talking about all his strongest supporters really being strung up.
		I mean, Trump told my dad in 2016 or 2015 that he was a great guy and that he wouldn't let him down on his show.
		And we've never seen any kind of real physical, tangible support.
		And, you know, whether you look at the first, second, or third terms, really, or elections, all the people that stood up for him, he kind of ignores while they get smacked down.
		And all the people that spat in his face, he wants to be their friend.
		I think it comes down to this one thing.
		I think Trump has a pathological need to be liked.
		And I think the people that hate Trump, Trump really desperately wants to be his friends.
		And I think the people that Trump knows like him already.
		I think he goes, okay, I got him in the bag.
		I don't really have to do anything for him.
		In fact, I deserve their love and they should just give it to me automatically.
		And even said something to that effect.
		He said, like, I decide what MAGA is.
		You're like, I am MAGA, essentially, right?
		And that's not true.
		That's that's never been the position, right?
		Like, Trump didn't invent America first.
		Trump didn't invent MAGA per se.
		It was the populist American movement of the Tea Party and really Occupy Wall Street too.
		It was that coalition of forces that were against economic control and decline in our country coming together that voted for Trump as a wrecking ball for the system.
		And those people have been largely ignored.
		Whereas the neocon establishment, people like Levin, people like Ted Cruz, people like everyone really in power now, the people that were never Trumpers, like Lindsey Graham, he's his golfing buddy.
		So what does it take to be Trump's golfing buddy?
		Like, do you have to hate him the most out of anyone in the world for years and then you get to be his friend?
		Like, maybe my dad should have been anti-Trump the first term.
		Maybe, maybe he'd be a press secretary right now.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		No, he does seem to take people that are most loyal and forgiving as for granted.
		That's understandable.
		And I don't quite understand the Lindsey Graham connection.
		I understand they golf together off and on.
		He golfs with a lot of different people, but he also golfs with some of the right people, but he also golfs with people you wish you wouldn't have any association with.
		So I don't know what happens out there for five hours at Trump International.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
unidentified		It's your father played golf in his youth.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		He could take up golf again.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		You know, he doesn't have an Achilles.
		That's the problem.
		His right foot, he stepped in a gopher hole at Big Ben National Park like 10 years ago.
		And literally, if you look, if you look at his ankle, it's the weirdest thing.
		He's got like a dent.
		He literally has no Achilles tendon.
		He walks around with no Achilles tendon.
		He says that off and on on the air, and like people believe it or don't believe it.
		Like, I've seen it.
		It's one of the craziest things.
		So like he, I'm impressed that he even works out to be honest.
		But he, maybe he should golf.
		Maybe he should go golfing with Trump.
unidentified		He'll have to hit the range for a couple of weeks, get his name together.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, watch that drive like George Bush.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		All right.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		I've said my piece.
		Good show, guys.
		Nice to let me in.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		100%, man.
		Thank you.
		And I hope you call back into the show.
		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		We're going to go back to New Groyper.
		New Groyper, what do you think about the discussion tonight?
		What do you think about the points the callers are making?
		You got anything else you want to add on to, or you got a new road you want to go down here?
		Hello?
unidentified		Do we have New Groyper?
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Hey, sorry, I was on mute.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, you're all open.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how I followed that up.
		That was that was a couple back good callers.
		The one that I really found interesting was the one where the guy mentioned Steve Pieczenik.
		And that whole thing, because I went down that rabbit hole because I was like, what happened to him?
		You know, because I took a break from watching InfoWars and came back to it.
unidentified		And it's just like spooks everywhere.
unidentified		Like you open your sock door, there's a spook in it.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		It's it's it's like it's insane to me, honestly.
unidentified		Yeah.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		But you know, I, at the end of the day, I really don't everything is so convoluted, man.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Everything is so convoluted.
unidentified		And I don't think we're going to get to the bottom of it.
unidentified		Well, the Trump administration is going to.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		The common thread across all callers really is that that shit screen that I was talking about of misinformation and disinformation and bad information that's put out for the good people, the populist people, to ultimately unwittingly spread.
		And I think we see a lot of that, right?
		And that's what I take issue with.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
unidentified		Yeah.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's tough too, because it's like there's so much going around.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And especially too, it's like you're trying to host a show and you're bringing news to tens of millions of people every day, like Alex is.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Like, how are you even remotely supposed to navigate that?
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		I mean, obviously, he's got experience being around as long as he has, but I mean, that's still like trying to figure out who's who and what's their angle for telling you this and that and all the behind the scenes stuff that I'm sure goes on.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And go ahead.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no, go ahead.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		My bad.
unidentified		My bad.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think, like I said, I don't, I'm not trying to incite anything, but like the other caller said, there is no peace.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		I don't think there's a police, a peaceful solution out of this.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		I just, I just don't.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think it comes from the crash, man.
		Like, I think the 30s are going to be a crazy time.
		I think we do have a couple years left of relative normalcy, whatever that means.
		I think we'll see more assassinations.
		I think we'll see more structural collapse.
		I think we'll see more wars during that time.
		But eventually, you know, maybe when the debt hits 50 trillion or something like that, the other shoe is going to drop and the American people will suddenly be left penniless.
		And they'll realize in that moment that they were penniless for decades, but the skeleton of the system was still there to prop them up, right?
		So we're entering into a time where when you have a $10 gallon of milk, when you have a $15 cheeseburger, when you have rent that's $3,000 a month, you know, not in New York, but in somewhere in Kansas or somewhere in Tennessee or somewhere in Texas.
		I think when we reach that point, I think that's where the real societal change could come.
		But it's like I said earlier, I think that they're waiting until they have the AI and the robotic infrastructure built up to where it's not really a problem anymore.
		And the real heartbreak I have with Trump is I thought he was going to stop this system, but the people he seems to be the most fond of, even more than the politicians, are the big tech people.
		I mean, he gave 500 billion to the open AI and all that in Project Stargate, right?
		So even more than the corrupt politicians and the warmongers, he's given money to the system builders and he's given power to the system builders and he's erasing liability for the system builders.
		Eventually, these people are going to rule us, man.
		And it's not even going to be the political class.
unidentified		It's going to be the billionaire class.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Which I think, I think we're already there for that.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		You know, and everybody, and this is what gets me about Elon Musk.
		Everybody like a lot of people like, oh, he's great.
		He's great.
		And, you know, he should be involved in administration.
		First of all, he's a foreigner.
		Second of all, he's a foreigner tech bro.
		He should be as far away from power as we can possibly put him.
		And, you know, it's like the dude, like, just kind of breaking down what he's done.
		It's like, okay, so he bought Tesla.
		The cars were already made when he bought it, right?
		They made some revisions, but that tech was there.
		You know, this space, space and rocket stuff, all that stuff is subsidized with U.S. dollars.
		It's taxpayers that are funding, enriching him.
		It's like, and we're sitting there, oh, these are our experts.
		They're just like, they're on the teeth of the government.
		And the most simplest way to put it.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I agree with that.
		I agree with that.
		I just don't get it.
		And why do we have, and I've seen some of these congresspeople, why do we have people in our government that weren't born here?
		I take huge issue with that.
		And you can talk about, oh, immigration, this, that, the other thing.
		And I argue with Tim about this all the time.
		And you see it, we do it on the show and you call in, you contribute to the conversation.
		We should not have anyone that's not born here in a position of power.
		Like, I firmly believe that.
		And I think that's a perfectly rational position to hold.
		And I think anyone that holds a counter to that position is an enemy agent against America.
unidentified		Absolutely.
unidentified		Absolutely.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		You know, you know what I find funny?
		Even the Republicans, you know, we got the immigrants too.
		Ted Cruz.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		He's Canadian.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Candidate.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		He ran for president.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		It's just like, how did he run for president if he was a Canadian-born citizen?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, we need our first Somali president.
		That'll really fix things.
		You know, that'll fix things for the country.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		My only hope is that this gives rise to the most far-right populist nationalist that we can possibly muster.
		And we, and, you know, whoever it is takes power for a season and just, but then again, once you give power, you don't get it back.
		So it's kind of double-edged sword.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're headed.
		We're headed there, man.
		And, you know, like, that's, I really support Fuentes, you know, despite some flaws he may have or whatnot.
		I think he truly is for real.
		And I think if he was able to build up this political movement for another decade or so, I think he really could affect real change within the system.
		And that's, that's why I really like his message of, you know, Elon Musk and all these people they'll come out, you know, they'll tell people, be, you know, be plumbers, be electricians, work at the store, have the kids, be broke.
		And I, I, I think trades are very important.
		I think it's very important we have people go into trades.
		I'm not discounting that.
		But ultimately, the message that Fuentes gives out of, hey, go to college, get in the power structure, get money, have the ability to actually affect social and political change.
		I think that is the message that's important specifically for young people to hear because the system, it's got to be infiltrated at the end of the day, because bad people are infiltrating it.
		Why can't good people infiltrate it?
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		That's really, that's what the, you know, everybody wonders why he's so big.
		And, you know, all of these people are, like, it is just kind of a drama.
		And that's why I get fatigued with it for some time.
		But like Fuentes actually, you know, he offers a solution, which is take power, like get into power, take it over, which is, which I would argue is really the most peaceful solution that we can think of as compared to the alternatives.
		But it's, you know, like, I really wish your dad would run.
		I know, I know he'd rather probably rip his eyes out than do that.
		But, you know, put somebody on the ticket, you know, and have somebody who can take power and use it for good.
		Right.
		But it won't use it to enrich themselves, which is kind of seems to be the prevailing theme.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, I was thinking about, and I'm still thinking about buying my plane ticket and buying my ticket to the event and going to AmFest, going to that turning point event.
		I want to see how these, how these political, these junior political operatives and these people they're setting up to be in power.
		I want to see how they behave.
		I want to see who's whispering to them.
		I want to see who's leading them around.
		Like I, I, it really is fascinating.
		I've had some experiences with young Republicans.
		I've had some experience with think tanks.
		I've had some experience meeting with people and turning point.
		I've had some experience with these folks.
		And universally, I mean, your skin will crawl when you deal with these people.
		And I know that if there's enough talented, smart young people that actually are able to, you know, get into those organizations and eventually are either able to expose or take power in them, I think we could affect positive change because, you know, I don't see a super genius, mega-mind, elite class ruling over everyone.
		These people just think that about themselves.
		They're actually very average people at the end of the day.
		They're very average people.
		They're just, they have the connections.
		They have the money and they're evil.
		They're willing to, you know, exact their power over others.
		And, you know, I, like, I don't want to get too far into it.
		I don't want to reveal too much information, but, you know, I went to this event and I was invited to this event by someone.
		And I was like, okay, I'm going to go check this out.
		I'm going to go see what it's about.
		And the speeches that these people give about themselves about being the best and being, you know, the people that should be in charge and XYZ and it's for the good of everyone else.
		I was just like, whoa, man.
		Like, all right.
		Okay.
		This is what we're up against, huh?
		Right?
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		They sit in the halls of power and they're on the campaigns.
		And don't worry, though, midterms, midterms, and 2028 is going to be a GOP reckoning.
		And I'm here for it.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, me too, man.
		I ain't voting.
		I'm not a cog in your machine anymore, man.
		I'm not a sheeple anymore.
		I'm not going to that poll.
		You know what?
		You lied to us and you did the exact opposite of everything you said you were going to do.
		So, you know what?
		Let's see it.
		Let's see how much those boomers you brainwashed are worth.
		Let's see how many of them you can bring out to the polls because I guarantee you it ain't going to be enough.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		They're dropping like flies every single day, man.
		Every day.
		They're less and less.
		I was in a church and was talking with a pastor.
		He was talking about wanting to make changes in a church.
		And, you know, politics and church kind of structurally, they operate in similar realms, if you get what I'm saying.
		And he told me, he's like, man, you know, honestly, the best thing that could happen for us right now are funerals.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I looked at him and I was puzzled.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		I was like, what do you mean?
		He's like, we need those people who are bent in this way to go on.
		And I think the same is true with our nation.
		We need the boomers to go.
		We don't need to replace them with migrants and foreigners.
		We don't, you know, we don't need to do none of that.
		We just need them to go.
unidentified		I think we'll see, well, we'll see some change.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Now, at the end of the day, these young, these young, like the young Republicans and all those guys, they are literally just awesome and also super gay in every way.
		And so I think they'll still try to act the same, but like, you know, it'll be harder to pitch a millennial, you know, predominantly millennial nation.
		You're not going to be able to sell them in a war.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Unless it's a really good reason.
unidentified		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I want to see that two-party system broken.
		I want to see it scattered like dust in the wind.
		That's what I dream about, man.
		And, you know, there are cons to that.
		You can argue there.
		There are cons to having things balkanized and having a bunch of political parties and whatnot.
		But at the end of the day, I think both the lefties and the people on the right, I think that they've both realized for various different reasons that the people they vote for don't actually represent them.
		And, you know, that's why you can look at people on the far left and you could say, hey, I really oppose most, if not all of what these people stand for.
		At least they're being consistent and saying, hey, like my people aren't voting for what I want.
		So, you know, I'm not going to vote for them or I'm going to vote for someone more extreme.
		And we kind of see this sheepdogging on the right of, oh, no, oh, no, oh, no, we won.
		We won.
		We won.
		We're in power.
		We're in charge.
		You just got to push a little bit more.
		Are you not a believer?
		Are you not a believer in our system?
		Are you a traitor to our system?
		Are you a traitor?
		And the irony and really the hypocrisy and the arrogance of calling the people traitors that are loyal to the beliefs and loyal to the values that they voted for when the people in power are the true traders.
		That's what really gets my goat.
		That's what really grinds my gears.
		That's what really pisses me off.
		I want to see the whole thing burn.
		And you know what?
		That's not a popular opinion.
		My dad wouldn't like that opinion, but that's just what I believe.
		And hey, yeah, you're watching this show.
		This is the gray area.
		Tim Topkins, Rex Jones, Tim's usually here.
		He's not in town today.
		He's over in Germany right now buying some equipment.
		But, like, this is an independent show.
		It's an independent broadcast.
		And my perspective, people call me a black pillar.
		People call me a doomer.
		People say that I'm too negative.
		I say, what is being positive about this bullshit ever gotten us?
		It's gotten us nothing.
		It's just gotten us further and further down the road.
		Right?
unidentified		Absolutely.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And you know, like, like, you know, you said your dad wouldn't like it.
		That's the thing.
		I think he's going to have to be, he's going to have to be the one just to eviscerate Trump.
		And I know it's going to hurt him because, you know, I mean, he's, he knows Trump and, you know, and that kind of thing.
		But at the end of the day, this guy has done nothing for us, for him, for nobody except for a select group of people.
		And we are not in that group.
		And so if this is going to be a populist movement, we need the largest populist people who aren't, you know, like neocon shields trying to mask as you know, populists to rise up and say, hey, you know, this, the Trump experiment failed.
		And ultimately, what I think you would see, like, like if Alex makes that statement, he gets a call from Trump the next day.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Maybe sooner.
		And then they're going to go, oh, well, what's wrong?
		What's wrong?
		And it's like, what do you think's wrong?
unidentified		You've done nothing.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		You've done absolute nothing.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And so, but the thing is, is they're never going to change if they, if, if at the end of the day, they think that they have us.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		No matter what.
unidentified		Indeed.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		There's no incentive for them to do it.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Very profound.
unidentified		Yes.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		They do think that they think that they have us.
		And that's they think that they have us in our in their pocket.
		They think that they have us in their network.
		They think they have us in their political system.
		And we rejected it.
		We voted to reject it.
		And the rebuilding of the left-right dichotomy is not what we voted for.
		And like I've said it over and over and over again, like five times on this show probably alone.
		He is the new false or really true because Reagan was bad too.
		He is the new Reagan figure.
		And I ain't on board with that.
		I'm not a fan of Ronald Reagan.
		You know what I mean?
		I look at it.
		I look at it from the perspective like you do of the boomers are dying off and a prominently Gen X or millennial nation isn't going to support war in the same way that they did.
		But at the end of the day, are we brave enough as a people to reject authoritarianism?
		Because you look at these old people, they're all authoritarian.
		They believe Mike makes right and we rule the earth.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Yeah.
		And even the young people.
		A lot of the young people want an authoritarian rule.
		They think it'll take authoritarianism.
		And I think that's a debate to be had for sure.
		Because at the end of the day, think about this.
		If we were to root out all the corruption, how would you even begin?
		Because, okay, well, if you start rooting it out, then they're going to assassinate you.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		It's like it's got if there's going to be change, it needs to be quick.
		It needs to be fast.
		It needs to be done by the military.
		And like it needs to be done before the news outlets can report on it.
		You know what I mean?
		Just like, bam.
		Like, hey, we got everybody.
unidentified		You should see some things correcting itself in the next six months.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And that won't be popular.
		And that person, you know, whoever does that will be viewed as, you know, horrible.
		But there really isn't another solution.
		I mean, the entrenched interests are just blatantly everywhere.
		And they're not even trying to hide it anymore, which makes you, you know, which means they're really arrogant about it.
		They really think that there's nothing we can do.
		And it's like, hey, you know, we just all don't want society to collapse.
		And that's kind of been the thing that's holding back.
		But at the end of the day, it's going to collapse anyways.
		And we're just kind of, We have a gunshot wound instead of, you know, instead of sewing up the wound, we're putting a band-aid on it and we're bleeding out.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I think it's, I think it's more like having like a gangrenous wound or something or an arm or a leg you have to amputate.
		I think that's the position that we're in more than anything.
		And it's a person saying, no, I want my leg.
		I want to be able to walk.
		I want to be able to walk with two legs.
		I don't want to use a crutch.
		I don't want to use a cane.
		I don't want to break.
		I don't want to have this collapse.
		It's like, well, if we don't have this collapse, your entire body is going to die.
		Right?
		That's that's how I see it.
		I just, and I, and I know it's, it's not a nice thing to say.
		It's not a nice thing to hope or speak positively of a collapse or of a recession or of a depression style event.
		It's, it's, it's horrible.
		And I don't want people to die.
		I don't want people to starve.
		I don't want people to get hurt.
		But at the end of the day, the way things are going, there aren't going to be any people at all.
		You know?
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		So there won't be a future.
		There right now, the way things sit now, there is no future for us unless we physically change it or unless it gets changed by somebody at it.
		So I mean, kind of the one, it's like, do you know, do you, do you, do you prolong the end for the sake of, you know, have a little bit more time or do you just get it over with?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		So we can move to the next cycle of rebuilding.
		And that's kind of where I think we need to go, unfortunately.
		And a lot of people say that's blackpill, but the thing is, is every society goes through ebbs and flows and you know, empires rise and fall.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And life goes on.
		Right.
		So it's not the end of the world.
		It may be bad for a lot of us, but also our forefathers and/or our current generations did this.
		So it's kind of like time to reap what you sow.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And you know who's been putting out really good work on this whole perspective of talking about, you know, not necessarily, yeah, I guess, I guess the Black Pill perspective or really the realist perspective of, you know, Americans wake up, you don't have a country anymore is Tim Dylan.
		Have you been catching any of Tim Dylan's shows?
		I mean, he's been doing a phenomenal job.
		I mean, his last broadcast was super powerful.
		I've been tuning into him a lot.
		I've been listening to him and he puts it in a very approachable way, in a very humorous way for people to be able to kind of laugh at it and cope and deal with it.
		But he talks about everything being owned by the special interests.
		He talks about the descent of the country.
		He talks about the affordability crisis.
		He talks about the future automation.
		He talks about all of it.
		And, you know, that's someone that I really, I'm putting a lot of hope into him.
		And I really admire him for that because, you know, he had the opportunity to have JD Vance on and he's had political dinners and whatnot with these people.
		But unlike people like Benny Johnson, unlike all these other political actors, he didn't sell out.
		He's gone more hardcore.
		I mean, he's more hardcore than my dad is right now, to be frank.
		And I've been quite shocked by that, but I've really been enjoying it.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I haven't seen any of his stuff.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You got to check it out, man.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I think that really good.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'll have to take a look at it.
		I mean, I think that honestly, like, I think with your dad, I think the reason why he's going the direction he is is because he doesn't want everything to fall to pieces.
		And it's kind of, you know, it's kind of one of those things where it's hard to come to terms with the fact that the loss has occurred.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And so things won't be the way they were 30, you know, or 15, 20 years ago.
		Right.
		And, but, you know, and I, and I get that.
		I completely get that.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, I understand.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		I understand it.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I get being hopeful, but it just seems like a fool's errand to me at this point.
		And it's like you talk about like the spooks, man, like people like Patrick Byrne and others, you know, just they show up and they give the narrative.
		And how are you supposed to use discernment when everyone you have on is basically giving you the state-run narrative?
		And I just like people like Gerald Celente, man, like Gerald Celente used to be on the show all the time.
		And Gerald Salinte is super anti-war and has become super anti-Trump.
		And, you know, I got to say, I love Gerald for that.
		And I wish we'd listen to more voices like that.
		I wish we'd listen to more voices like Judge Napolitano.
		I wish we'd listened to more foreign voices, even people talking about this stuff.
		And I know that you're American nationalists and I am too, to be frank, but people in other countries, they look at us and I think that they're starting to feel sorry for us because they understand that our government's compromised and taken.
		Right?
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Yeah.
		You know, the thing that gets me, like Patrick Burn is a retard.
		And like when I love the info, you know, I love InfoWars.
		I watch it almost every day.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Me too.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		As long as I'm, you know, I have time.
		But when I hear idiots like that get on there, I'm just like, okay, I'm going to like, I'm going to do scroll TikTok now.
		You know, because it's like, this guy's just like, he just makes no sense.
		And obviously, some of those guys are coming on A to grift, B to, you know, try to get bigger and also to misdirect.
		And the thing, the number one thing that I want is this, oh, you know, we're teetering on the edge.
		Oh, you know, that soap opera kind of style as the previous scholar said.
		I'm so over hearing that, like the pearl clutching, that kind of thing.
		It's like, hey, let's let's get the show on the road.
		Like if we're going to call it out, then let's, you know, let's start exposing stuff and getting to the bottom of stuff, which obviously, you know, does happen on InfoWars.
		But, you know, it's just, it seems like the administration gets gets a, um, gets more leeway, I guess.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't say there's a bias necessarily, but I would, you know, I think it's hopefully I think my dad truly does want to believe that we like that there there is some sort of big win possible.
		And I think that it makes sense.
		Like, I mean, how, how, how long have you been an Infowars viewer or listener?
		How many years?
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		I jumped into InfoWars in 2019.
		Okay.
		2019, started COVID.
unidentified		So.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Trump changed everything.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Get in.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Trump changed everything, man.
		Like when Trump, when Trump came around, it became like we had someone that we could hope in.
		And that was kind of the shift that I noticed because prior to that, like my dad had never endorsed any political candidate ever.
		And it had always just kind of been like an anti-uniparty, anti-globalist perspective.
		And I agree that that's like where it started with Trump.
		And I would argue like that's where the belief continues.
		And even though I believe it's a foolish belief, I do think it's genuine.
		And I do genuinely think that he trusts and hopes in him to right the ship or turn things around at a certain level.
		But, you know, I remember a time when we were talking about the FEMA camps.
		I remember a time when we were talking about Agenda 2020 and Agenda 2030.
		I remember all these old things.
		And I look at now living in the future, like we're there.
		We're here now.
		And you came in listening in 2019.
		I think InfoWars' best work in the modern era was during that Biden dark age.
		I mean, you want to talk about good things that have been done.
		I mean, we stopped thousands and thousands of people from taking that poison shot.
		And I think that that's heroic work.
		And absolutely.
		People will criticize.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		That's what got me.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, people will criticize my dad or criticize InfoWars or make all these points.
		And, you know, I agree with some of the points that they'll make, but like the Due Dissonance people, right?
		And I'm a huge fan of their show and I catch almost every one.
		Like they had one tonight and I'll probably watch that before I go to bed or at least a part of it.
		I was watching it before I went live.
		And they'll really dog on Alex.
		They'll really shit on him.
		And I'm like, hey, man, you know, you're kind of, you're invalidating a body of work here because of, you know, a big bad call, but, you know, it's just one bad call at the end of the day.
		And that's, that's what I truly believe.
		Like Alex's.
		It's not even.
unidentified		Go ahead.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		It's not even like a, it wasn't even a bad call.
		Working off of the information, like Trump was just dishonest with him.
		I mean, Trump came on InfoWars one time, got, got the, got the seal of approval and said, thank you, and left.
		No, no, what's going to be hilarious, and I'm going to go ahead and predict this now.
		The only thing that makes it good that he's waiting this long is when he finally does crash out.
		And it's going to happen.
		I really think he's going to crash out on Trump and the administration.
		And it's going to be, it'll be the most viral clip that we've seen in the next, you know, of a 10-year period.
		Because he's going to go nuclear and it's, it's going to be, you know, it's going to be a shooting a nuclear bomb into that administration.
unidentified		You know, it's happening.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, it's happened one time before.
		And he said he started listening in 2019 when Trump launched missiles into Syria.
		My dad came out very strong and very angrily against Trump.
		He said, F Trump.
		And he went on a big tangent and Trump didn't proceed with those strikes.
		And, you know, things kind of reversed themselves from that perspective.
		And we didn't touch on it again after that.
		But I think that that energy is there and it is simmering.
		And Alex doesn't like the total betrayal.
		And I think that that'll come up again, you know?
		So very interesting.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, his patience with it.
		Well, I, and we don't like the patience now because we're impatient, because we just kind of see the way things are.
		But it's really going to work towards his advantage because when he finally does blow a gasket and go nuclear on him, he's everybody's about, well, he's defended Trump for a very long time.
		And it's going to amplify that whole situation.
unidentified		Right.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		I'm just waiting for it to simmer.
		And, you know, I'm looking forward to the day where I hear it because, I mean, you can tell he's frustrated.
		You can tell he's frustrated with him.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And it's only a matter of time.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I know you're not a Tucker fan.
		Neither am I from the perspective of trusting him, but it has had a huge impact, Tucker questioning Trump's actions.
		It has, it's undeniably had a huge impact on the right.
		And you can say, oh, well, it's kind of just creating this storm and it's creating the division and that's what they want.
		But on the other hand, like, I do like to see that, you know, and I think that's been a good thing that Tucker's done.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think it's the opposite.
unidentified		Okay.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		I think it's the opposite.
		I think he's, I think he's not, not in the sense of that it was, that he's trying to split.
		I think he's gatekeeping.
		So like when a pipe has pressure and the pressure overloads, you have to release some of the pressure or it'll blow up.
		And I think what Tucker is doing is he's doing a controlled pressure release, which is why he always gatekeeps.
		You know, it's why he'll flirt with some ideas.
		But at the end of the day, he's still a GOP party man.
		And he's, and I, and honestly, I think he's a snake in the grass.
		And I think anything he touches is in danger.
		And ultimately, that's going to, that's going to have to be handled and all those, like those Laura Loomer types.
		And, you know, Laura Loomer used to be around InfoWars.
		I remember that.
		Now, I didn't like her then because I thought she was weird, but I remember her being around.
		You know, I remember a lot of these.
		You know, I've been around long enough to see these people come and go and see kind of how they turn the corner.
		Than other establishment people once they got their foot in the door.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Because they get the call.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That seems to be the mission, right?
		That seems to be the mission.
		That's why these people get into politics or media to begin with is they want to be a part of the power structure.
		And that's the most disgusting thing to represent yourself as a populist when you're really a member of the system.
		That is the real problem.
		That is the problem we see in America.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Yeah.
		The populist movement is going to have to get active in a big kind of way.
		And I think it's happening.
		I think you're going to see the Great Rebellion of the midterms.
		Ultimately, I think you'll, I firmly believe that InfoWars will turn the corner on this soon, sooner rather than later.
		I think that with all that movement, because I really do, I think InfoWars might be the biggest news outlet, period.
		Just find, like, I was watching a stream, a replay of a stream on X, and it had like 600,000 viewers on a replay.
unidentified		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the numbers are crazy at night.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		It's like, it's like ABC and them wish they could get those kind of numbers.
		And so when he finally does turn that corner and it finally does go, it's going to be a glorious thing to see because it's going to be, you know, we need that moment of sifting weak from chaff and that, you know, and throwing it up off the threshing floor.
		Like, that's what we need.
		And I think that's going to happen.
		And we're going to see real quick who's really about something and who's a shill more than we already do, really.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I want to make, I want to, I want to make a point here.
		So InfoWars, my father's baby, InfoWars has been around far longer than I've been around.
		InfoWars is founded in 1997, I believe.
		It's been around for almost 30 years or 30 years at this point coming up.
		And no one has fought as hard for anything that I've seen, at least than my father has fought for his company, his platform, his business, his outlet to the American people, to be honest with you.
		Like no one's fought harder for something than Alex has fought for InfoWars.
		And I've seen it all.
		And, you know, two years ago, I made my piece and I went around the office and I cried a little bit and I thought it was over, but we have been able to just kind of stave off death week after week after week after week.
		And I mean, like, I was up there last month and I saw the receiver in there.
		And I'm, I'm just like, wow, like this coma patient, when is it going to die so that we can ascend and become something greater?
		And I think that's part of the equation.
		I think that's what it's really going to take for us to ascend and reach the next level and go super.
		Like that, that's what it's going to require.
		I think that we're still holding on to the vestiges of the old dream instead of building the new one.
		And that being said, even now, and it's reduced and crippled and wounded state, InfoWars as a platform for good and bad.
		You talk about people like Loomer and Patrick Byrne.
		I think of people like Fuentes and I think of people honestly like myself that are able to get a platform and go on there and say what we have to say too, right?
		So I view it from the perspective of he's tried to keep this thing alive.
		He's fought so hard for it.
		I've seen him cry over it.
		I've seen him gnash his teeth and grind his teeth over it.
		And I just, I've told him, I've just said, like, when are we going to let go?
		When are we going to let go of this?
		Because I think it's been done by design to cripple us and keep us from being effective.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		150%.
		And, you know, like, like, obviously, this ain't like an Alex Jones Glaze session, but we got to give our flowers where they're due.
		When I talk to people, people are like, oh, he's got the call.
		I'm like, dude, he's been calling out Israel since you were in diapers.
		You need to calm down a little bit.
		Like, Understand that, you know, there's obviously like an IQ filter, and anybody below a certain threshold can't understand Nuance positions at all.
		And that's always going to be the case, but you know, he's he's blazed the way and he's he's done it.
		And I think he'll continue to hopefully, you know, with the with the new thing, you know, I'm kind of concerned about Bigley.
		I don't know.
		I don't know about that, but then again, I don't know nothing about it anyway.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So what do you what do you what do you concerned about when it comes to Bigley?
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Just I just don't know anything about him.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And obviously it's none of my business.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, ultimately, the reason why Bigley is important and the reason why Bigley is a part of the equation is because payroll is damn near millions a month, equipment costs, all these things.
		And we're leaving that studio at some point.
		I know we've been able to save off things, but eventually that place will die.
		And we have to have a sponsor that ultimately owns the place because Alex can't own anything.
		He's got a billion-dollar judgment over his head.
		You know what?
		I've met those guys.
		I've talked to those guys a lot.
		I've worked with those guys on products and things.
		They are true believers.
		I trust them.
		And I'm giving you my honest opinion on that right now.
		They're good folks and they're not involved in any way of trying to get Alex to do anything at all.
		They're just trying to make sure like they're in business.
		They're trying to make sure they sell supplements, right?
		And if they sell supplements, Alex can stay in business.
		So that's the equation that I see there.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Like you said, like I said, it was never anything like I'd heard anything back.
		I can't even find them on the internet.
		I tried Googling them, like, like just their actual company and try to find a website.
		I couldn't find it.
		You know, but I just, I just didn't know anything about them.
		And that was the kicker.
		Like, I know InfoWars.
		I know, you know, you know what I mean?
		It's, it's like, I know what that is.
		I know who, you know, who, who runs that show.
		But that Bigley is a whole different company.
		And so, you know, it's, but, but, like you said, Alex can't, he can't own anything anymore because they've essentially, I mean, it's like they chopped his legs off.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's what they did.
		They're proud of it.
		And I hate those people so much.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		You better believe if I come into, if I hit the lottery and I come into that kind of money, I'm cutting a check.
		Just going to let you know now.
		God bless.
		Let the birds free.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		God bless.
		I mean, yeah, we're living on a prayer, man.
		And I just, I have hope for a better future.
		I have hope for really, you know, I've always believed in alternative media.
		I've always been a huge fan of it.
		Ever since I was a little kid, I thought it was really cool that you didn't have to be on a big channel somewhere or be a part of a big media conglomerate.
		You could just be a guy with a microphone.
		And if you were popular enough and if you were good enough at your job and if you were true enough to your people, you could become as big or bigger than them.
		And, you know, for all the faults, for all the good or bad, I think that's what we proved.
		And people point at Rogan as the genesis of podcasting and all that and whatnot.
		I would say, you know, in the political sphere, specifically in the pundit sphere of people, you know, just independent, honest American citizens trying to come out and share their opinions.
		No one's been more effective than Alex Jones.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think anybody with a, with a couple of brain cells rubbed together understands that.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		I mean, and literally, what when he makes when he makes a stance, and like I said, I remember, like, Clay, I watched a lot of my time with InfoWars was before the lawsuit.
		And the, the difference before the lawsuit and after, just in like how he carries himself in the show is just night and day different because obviously, you know, it's hard doing a show.
		Also hard, doing a show and fighting off a multi-billion dollar lawsuit for no reason right, and it's just not.
		It's not a way to live no, it's so.
		That's why I you know I hate to see Infra Wars leave um, but you know he does, I think.
		I mean, let me ask you, if he leaves like, can they leave it now?
		Can they even leave it now with everything going on, if they wanted to?
		Well, what is, in what regard, So like, if Alex decided, if he wanted to say, hey, let's hit the eject, you know, the CETO eject button, you know, and abandon shit now before it just shuts down.
		Does he have the ability to do that with all that going on?
		Well, does he have to stay until it closes through everything?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So it comes down to infrastructure, right?
		So as old as all our machines are, as old as the equipment is, it is still a machine where you can run three massive daily shows out of there.
		You can run articles out of there.
		You can run editors out of there.
		You can run a team out of there.
		Our other backup studio is, I'm not going to get into details or be too specific because I don't want to reveal too much, but it's a very small location.
		It's very cramped.
		It's very hard to do what we do now in there and damn near impossible.
		They could make it work potentially if the plug was pulled tomorrow.
		I have no doubt that they would be able to, but there would be a definite drop in quality, at least for the first couple months.
		And the new place that's being built out for us right now, the new big place, that's going to be like six months plus into getting finished, right?
		So I understand why we're in the position that we're in today, even though I would like for us to just begin the new Genesis, even though it would be a little bit reduced.
		I think it would be worth it to do.
		I totally understand my dad's rational thinking and trying to keep the place alive, coupled with his love for it.
		It makes a lot of sense to me.
		But I just, yeah, like it's, it's a, it's a real tough situation.
		Like they've, they've squeezed our head real hard.
		And when you're living, like Alex is someone that if you look at him, you know, he doesn't, he doesn't look like it.
		He looks real healthy now on honestly.
		And he doesn't drink compared to how he used to, but he's got a great wound.
		Like he might, he might as well have like a giant hole blown out of one of his shoulders or something or one of his legs because he can't move around or operate properly because he's always having to fight.
		And like I tell people, you can see it.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Everybody can see that.
		He's tired.
		He's tired.
		And unfortunately, the fight doesn't care if you're tired.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And the cause has to continue.
		And he knows that.
		And there isn't anybody that can pick up that mantle right now and do what he does.
		And so, you know, it's like, hey, you know, it would be the worst thing to do for the legacy would be to give up now.
		But, you know, hopefully once he's free from the yoke, you know, from the yoke of all these people, receivers going through everything, all in business and can't do nothing without nobody, you know, maybe that'll be, maybe that'll be something to get his fire back in him, which I mean, he's still got it.
		Don't get it twisted, but you can tell, like, you can tell when the day's been long when he comes on and then versus when it was having a good day.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		But like I said, the disrespect is the disrespect of him is just something I don't tolerate.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't tolerate it.
		And here's the thing.
		Here's why I admire Fuentes so much, right?
		Fuentes isn't one of these Johnny come lately types that just showed up and started doing a show three or four years ago and started criticizing, right?
		Like Fuentes is someone that's been around fighting since he was 18, and Alex has been one of the few people, like only people, really, especially during his like media blackout era or iced out era when no one would talk to him.
		Alex would have him on the show.
		And I hope in Fuentes, because like, I'm going to be honest, just for the audience and viewers here, and I've said this many times on the show before, but I'll just reiterate and say it again: like, I am not my father, I am not capable of working as hard as Alex has worked to build a thing like that.
		At the end of the day, I embody certain aspects of what he's able to do, but it's mostly because I was raised around him and I learned a lot of those things through osmosis.
		There are talents and skills when it comes to broadcast media, ultimately, just like being the guy that I just, I know that although I'm decent at, you know, I think spreading truth and information, and I want to do it because it's fun and it's what I always wanted to do, I'm not the guy.
		And when I look at Fuentes, I look at someone who really could be the guy and who really has become the guy.
		And I got a lot of hope in him.
		And I really want to see him succeed and prosper and flourish and really grow into that figure.
		And I'm not saying a new Alex Jones or better Alex Jones or an Alex Jones 2.0.
		I'm just saying like, we need more people like that.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		They're fundamentally different in the way that they do things.
		Like, for example, the thing that like separates Alex is he goes into this big, you know, the big stuff, breaks it down, and then he, but he takes time to talk to the callers.
		And whether they're smart or they're retards and weirdos, because some of those do call in, he treats them with respect.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		True.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And he, and, and obviously, they're, you know, and he's, and he doesn't degrade people for not knowing.
		He's just like, let me get you, let me get you forward.
		Let me push you forward.
		And it's like that kind of that kind of attitude is what I think has made InfoWar so special because I mean, I've, I've talked to him, talked to him once.
		And I, I mean, I was like week three, week four, red pill, and I get an email from my, from my job, you know, from, you know, talking about, you know, Flash Schwab and the third industrial age stuff.
		If you remember all that, and so I call in and I don't really know much of what I'm talking about, but I'm talking about my email and he actually like listens and engages with it.
		And he isn't, you know, he's actually interested.
		And it's like a lot of guys, it's like, you know, it'd be really easy to be that big and be like, okay, cool.
		Next, you know, right.
		But he just never does that.
		And even with the callers who disagree.
		And it's just like that kind of, that's why I put it this way.
		If he is controlled opposition, we're screwed anyways.
		But as in as much as that I know or I can tell as an outsider, of course, I don't think he's, I think he's the real deal.
unidentified		And I think you can see that by how he treats people.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		I'll tell you one thing.
		His opinions are his own, even if I don't agree with some of them.
		That's the truth about my dad.
		I know that to be a fact over the course of my life.
		Like his opinions are his own.
		He believes what he believes and he's not influenced by anything other than his worldview and the information.
		And hey, maybe I don't agree with his worldview 100%, but you know what?
		Like he is on a mission to try to tell the truth.
		And I do believe this.
		Now, some people believe that he's Bill Hicks.
		And I see that in the chat right now and all this.
unidentified		And I just don't even look alike, guys.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Like, use your, like, rub those brain cells together.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Get a spark going.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I, I mean, you can, you can look at clips of Alex in his early 20s, and he kind of looks like me.
		Like, I just, it blow it blows my mind.
		But just in closing, New Groyper, like, how do you, how do you want to end this?
		Got another point you want to make, or just, just what do you have to say?
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		I mean, hey, man, you know, I'm here for the ride.
		Like I said, great show.
		You guys are improving.
		Tim, if you're hearing this, you're getting better.
		I'm going to turn you into a Groyper.
		So prepare yourself accordingly.
		But no, but in all seriousness, like you got, you're doing keep doing your thing, man.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate it.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		You know, as long as you'll continue to grow, as long as you don't try to be somebody you're not, you'll continue to thrive and just, you know, don't shill.
unidentified		And, you know, it's pretty, it's pretty easy.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, hopefully, you know, obviously, you know, that there's a lot of people out there supporting both you and your dad and really all the independent media guys.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		And ultimately, I think truth wins.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		I think it hurts and it takes time, but I think the truth wins because, I mean, evil, evil doesn't triumph in the end.
		And so if we're doing this with the, you know, with the right mindset and with good intentions and we're trying to do what is right, I think that matters.
		And so you just keep plowing the field, man.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		We're going to keep trying.
		We're going to keep getting better.
		We're going to keep making the show better.
		And like, I'm coming back today.
		Like, I've been real sick and real messed up basically for the past week.
		I haven't really eaten anything.
		Today was the first day I actually had two meals in like five days.
		And I'm enjoying having a little bit of the energy back.
		And, you know, I'm probably after we get off the phone, I'm probably going to try to go through a few more of the slides I have.
		I may try to stretch this live out to four hours.
		I wanted to get into more information, but on a day like today, where I'm feeling a little bit off, it really warms my heart that we have callers like you and the other callers.
		And like there, there are people with really phenomenal, like just honestly, good, solid brains and good takes that are out there and they have the information.
		And I think shows like this are important.
		I think shows like Infowars are important because when those people get to express their views and opinions like yourself and others, it shows the listening public that, hey, like all is not lost.
		We agree on a lot more than we disagree on.
		It really is that corrupt, elite ruling class that wants to keep us divided, keep us separated.
		And we can all agree on one thing.
		Things aren't getting better for us, man.
		And that's all we voted for.
		And that's all we want is we just want a future for ourselves and our families.
		Want to be able to worship God in peace.
		You want to be able to go to the grocery store in peace.
		Hell, you want to go to the 7-Eleven in peace, like whatever.
		At the end of the day, like that's what I believe in.
		That's what I want.
		And I just thank you for being solid, New Groyper.
		And you really, you're a phenomenal caller.
		And I really always appreciate the chance to interview you and love having you on.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Hey, man, it's always fun, dude.
unidentified		I'll catch you.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		I'll catch you on the next show.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
		I'll be live for a little bit longer.
		I am going to try to get through a couple of these topics.
		Thank you for joining us tonight.
		Seriously, man.
		God bless.
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		No problem.
		Thanks.
		That's a good one, man.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Wow.
		New Groyper, ladies and gentlemen.
		What a phenomenal dude.
		Nimrod Pod, also a phenomenal dude.
		Owl Killer, also a phenomenal dude.
		Who was that other guy?
		I got his call screen in here.
		Jefferson in Virginia, also a phenomenal dude.
		I mean, this is why I'm happy to do this show.
		This is why I'm proud to do this show, because if I'm doing this show and I'm talking about these topics and I'm going through the information, I'm able to attract the intellectual caliber of people like this.
		And it means that we're doing something right here on the gray area.
		And like, I wish that Tim was here with me tonight because we would have had an even more phenomenal discussion, prepared segment, probably.
		And I'm going to try to go through some of these slides that I have on a couple of topics that I really wanted to go over.
		But I just want to say thank you again to the audience and anyone that's listening, anyone that's here right now.
		Without you, the show is not possible.
		Like without you, I'm just a guy talking into the void, looking into a camera.
		So if you do me the honor of choosing to listen to me or choosing to hear what I have to say, or just even choosing to check me out or choosing to check the show out, choosing to check us out at the gray area, it really is something that I cannot put in words.
		I cannot describe how grateful I am.
		And I thank you for being here with us tonight.
		And, you know, I get called the black pillar.
		I get called negative.
		I get called all these names.
		And I hear it.
		I take it in.
		And I try to find things to be positive about.
		And the one thing I have found my ability to be positive about is the people in the community, is the people that are politically awake and aware.
		And when you talk to people, they're pretty much on the same page.
		They may disagree on an issue here, an issue there.
		But when it comes down to brass tacks, we all agree the system isn't working for anybody.
		And you know what?
		Like that's not what we voted for.
		That's not what America represents.
		That's not what we want.
		So if we're able to come together on that basic thesis of things not being how we want them to be and us wanting a change and us wanting the truth to come out about our government and about our society, I think that we can win.
		And none of us are perfect.
		None of us are perfect people.
		No person you watch is a perfect person.
		We're all human beings.
		But at the end of the day, if you don't want mass death, if you don't want pedophilia, if you don't want drugs, if you don't want crime, if you don't want the decay of the first world, if you don't want what your ancestors fought for to be washed away, then welcome to the gray area.
		Welcome to real politic.
		Welcome to America First.
		Like that's what we represent.
		And people may agree and disagree on various different topics.
		But you know what?
		We want a better future for America.
		And when we say we want a better future for America, we're not just saying that so we can get in office and then get in with the power structure and then completely betray everything we stood for.
		We're saying it because we believe it.
		And ultimately, that's what matters, right?
		That's what matters to me.
		And I know that's what matters to you, the American people.
		And ultimately, that's what I support as a person.
		And, you know, I'm a terrible Christian.
		I really am.
		I am the worst of all sinners.
		I do suck in that regard.
		But we all need to get right with God.
		We need to get right with Jesus Christ.
		We need to pray about this stuff and pray and hope that we can be given the strength to become better, stronger people that are able to live in this kind of ridiculously hostile and toxic climate that we're in.
		Because, you know, it's not just the chemicals and the drugs and the food and water.
		It's not just the war and the death.
		It's not just the crime.
		It's not just the economy.
		It's a metaphysical sickness that has descended upon this country, primarily, I believe, because we've killed 60 to 70 million unborn people.
	And, you know, when you think about stuff like that and you think about how much the standard of living has dropped to the point to where people can't even have children, you think about our future.
	Our future is not a set of policies or even a set of ideals.
	The future is the children.
	And when we live in a world where we don't protect the children and don't produce a future where the children can thrive, nothing else matters.
	And the message that I got tonight from the callers about, well, what do we do to fix this?
	What's the solution?
	At the end of the day, like that's what we're trying to figure out.
	I don't have a definitive answer for you.
	I can't give you something off the top of my head.
	I really can't.
	But we can keep having these conversations over and over and over again.
	And we can build on the collective consciousness of just wanting that.
	And just wanting that is powerful.
	But realizing that we're at a point where the big win isn't just going to come if we lay around and wait for it to happen or believe in our overlords to let it happen.
	Like the big win is us realizing we got to do the work ourselves.
	And I've got a million percent work to do.
	And I know a lot of you guys do too.
	And I'm trying to be a better person.
	You know, I fail a lot.
	I fail every day, but I'm trying to do my best here.
	And I really just, I am thankful to everyone that tunes in.
	And I am eternally grateful to you.
	I'm not just trying to repeat myself over and over again.
	I just like, I love you.
	And I thank you for being here with me tonight.
	And to harp on Venezuela to start.
	And then I was going to get into Ukraine.
	I was going to get into Pambondi and I was going to get into all these things.
	I am anti-death.
	I am pro-life, not just in the sense of being anti-abortion.
	I am anti-death in general.
	And whatever you want to call it, sin, karma, whatever.
	We have built up such a toll as a nation upon ourselves that a reckoning is coming and a reckoning will happen.
	And it is one that we deserve.
	And at the end of the day, the message that the faux right pushes now, the message that the GOP establishment pushes is that we've won, that we're the victors, that we're successful, and that everything is given to us by default.
	When in fact, that's just an excuse they use to rob us even further.
	And I'm not willing to tow that line.
	And when I go on InfoWars, I'm not willing to tow that line.
	I mean, me and Tim did a whole hour and a half on InfoWars talking about all this stuff and talking about the debt and talking about things not getting better and calling out the people in power.
	And, you know, if that wasn't a free platform, we wouldn't have the ability to do that.
	And, you know, there are people in the audience or viewers and listeners out there today, I know, that are highly critical of my father and may even don't like him or hate him or whatever.
	And you know what?
	I understand your position.
	I get it.
	I would say to give the man a chance and to just realize what his platform has done and specifically during the COVID time, all the good work that we did.
	And sadly, to get back to that point, you know, I think I'll finish up on that or at least dovetail into that.
	You know, we talk about Epstein, we talk about the wars, we talk about financial corruption, talk about the establishment GOP.
	Trump has backed the vaccines to the hilt.
	Trump has backed the poison shot to the hilt.
	It's still being given to people, folks.
	And at the end of the day, we can talk about all these things being bad and whatnot.
	And they're all kind of in the realm of politics.
	They're poisoning people and they're killing them left and right.
	And what are you supposed to do about it?
	Nothing.
	What are you supposed to do about it?
	Applaud Trump for murder, which is what he's doing.
	I'm not talking about Venezuela.
	I'm not talking about the economy.
	I'm not talking about any of that.
	I'm talking about the clot shot that people are taking right now.
	And, you know, for criticism of Elon Musk, I don't trust him, whatever.
	At least we can talk about stuff like this on X.
	And I remember a world even just a couple of years ago where that wasn't seen as anything that could be possible.
	So I do think even if it's done for, you know, a bad, even if it's done with bad intentions, maybe something good can come out of it.
	I do really support Elon and the fact that he has at least somewhat liberated Twitter into being a place where we can speak about these topics truly from the heart and from our real perspective.
	So I'm going to go ahead and try to read some comments.
	I know all the comments don't load.
	I use StreamYard, so I only see a few.
	So I know there are a lot of y'all on the Twitter specifically that I can't see, but I'm going to go ahead and read a few of these.
	From Michael, you are doing a great job, Rex.
	You just try to be real.
	That is all a real man can do.
	Respect.
	Thank you.
	That's high praise.
	Not sure if I deserve it.
	Good conversations, Rex and callers.
	Down to earth, real talk about this collapsing empire.
	I mean, like, that's, that's what we talk about on the show, man.
	People call it blackpill.
	I call it realism.
	And like, I'm not Tim Poole trying to sell you a skateboard and telling you everything's fine.
	I'm, I am selling supplements.
	I'm telling you things are terrible, but at least that's true.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		At least that's true, right?
		So thank you.
		Love you too, Hicks Jr.
		Oh, all right.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I am Bill Hicks, actually.
		Yeah.
		I want to save Italy where I'm from too.
		I'm so sorry to people in Europe that have to deal with the oppression because things are bad here.
		I pray for y'all.
		And, you know, I'll say a prayer tonight for you guys for what it's worth.
		Well said, fellas, get well, contemplate the needed recalibration.
		Christ is king.
		Good discussion.
		It's not a black pill.
		It's a fact pill.
		I agree with that.
		Thank you.
		The Bill Hicks conflation is just silly flat eartherism.
		Well, I mean, like, people, look, people actually believe this shit, and it just blows my mind.
		Because I know people that knew my dad when he was in diapers.
		So I just like.
		If that's the hill you want to die on, that's the hill you want to die on.
		That's like black Hebrew Israelite or flat earth stuff.
		I do agree with that.
		Groypers are evil.
		I don't agree with that.
		I don't agree with that.
		All right.
		Be nice in here.
		Bigly fired, Chase Geyser.
		I think that may be true.
		I'm not sure about that.
		Fuentes isn't gay.
		We're having a debate if Fuentes is gay or not up here.
		Yeah.
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		He's a secret third thing.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Tim Dylan is the man.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, here, look, and I'll make this point right now.
		Like, I have been overjoyed to see really the legitimacy of Tim Dylan, the credibility of Tim Dylan.
		To me, it's exploded a millionfold in my mind.
		I mean, I've been watching him since the pandemic and I was just a huge fan of him because he's a super funny guy, right?
		And the shows he's been putting out after interviewing JD Vance, after getting the access to these people, the realism that he's been showing, calling them out on their bullshit and their lies.
		Like, I mean, damn, that's a real American.
		Like him or not, and criticize his lifestyle choices or whatever.
		I mean, he's calling out the system.
		And I highly encourage everyone to watch his last broadcast.
		Phenomenal, phenomenal, phenomenal.
		No one that's bought off or trying to get access in any way would ever say any of the things that he says and puts out.
		And I'm a huge fan and supporter of him.
		And I encourage everyone to support Tim Dylan.
		I really do.
		Fuentes can be president in 2036.
		So another decade is correct, Rex.
		And Bill Hicks, Bill Hicks, Bill Hicks.
		Bill Hicks.
		Who I should actually, all right.
		The call-in service costs money.
		So I have to end it now.
unidentified		I just spent like 30 cents.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Kudos, Rex.
		May start listening to politics again.
		You feel legit.
		Thank you.
		That's high praise.
		I'm just a guy talking, man.
		Just been blackpilled on everything for months.
		Well, I mean, look, it's called being a realist.
		And don't let them discourage you from being a realist and looking at the situation.
		It's like if your house is on fire and then you show up to your house and it's burning down and the fire department shows up and they go, hey, don't be blackpilled.
unidentified		All right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is a bad situation, but don't be blackpilled about it.
		You still have a house and you're like, it's literally burnt down to ashes.
		There's nothing left.
		How do you feel?
		You're a young American.
		You've lived in this society.
		What do you feel that what's the youth's collective consciousness?
		And talking to the mic, and you can move the mic arm.
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		The youth's collective consciousness on what?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Just like, are we headed somewhere positive or negative?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Is life getting better for people?
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		No, I think a lot of people are worried about where things are going on a variety of subjects.
		You know, there's like international affairs, domestic things, grocery prices going up, gas prices going up.
		You know, just like increasing like all this AI and like social media stuff too.
		It's like all getting stronger.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And they tell you, hey, there'll be a UBI.
		There'll be a future for you.
		Everyone will get paid somehow when why would you do that?
		You should just like, there should just be less people and the robots can do the job.
		And I know that's kind of like a weird Terminator future to describe to people, but at the end of the day, like, you know, I made the point many, many times, like, why are you mad at Jose in the field when eventually it's going to be the optimist robot in the field?
		And there won't even be a Jose anymore.
		There won't be a Daeshan anymore.
		There won't be a Kyle anymore.
		Everyone will be dead.
		He'll just be the robot and the billionaire.
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		What if they named the robot Jose?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Nice touch.
		Nice touch.
		This is the thing, especially just about race in general.
		And people have different views on this, wildly different views.
		We have to be pro-human or we're all going to die.
		And this is very clear.
		And the racial dialectic is used to get people to fight in order so they don't get to come together.
		When in reality, people have far more in common than they do apart.
		And I'm speaking about American people, right?
		I'm not speaking about a foreign population being imported in here.
		I'm talking about the people that are here, that have history here.
		Everyone here has more in common than we do in difference.
		And they know that and they're afraid of that.
		And they want to replace us via the robot and via a foreign population that isn't used to the rights and circumstances that we've grown up accustomed to.
		That is the goal.
		And like that, that's what we rage against.
		And getting back to what the person said about it not being not being black pilled, it being fact-pilled.
		I mean, the more you look into information, the more you want change, right?
		And that's the problem.
		They don't want people to be informed.
		They don't want people to actually want change.
		They pick the culture war issues.
		They go, oh, like own the lib or like the evil MAGA, like both sides.
		It's not actually talking about, hey, the system's collapsed.
		It's just these things that these scraps that make people fight over.
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a distraction.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Right.
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		It deviates from like messages in the media deviate from the issues that people are like primarily concerned with.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		100%.
unidentified		I 100% agree with that.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Kyle Serafin, how do you call in?
		We ended the calling portion of the show.
		Apologies for that.
		I was not named after Rex84.
		I was not.
		I was named after Tyrannosaurus, Rex, the dinosaur.
		Profitability in the future must be restricted to analog human endeavor and human effort.
		Yes, like I'm a Luddite to a certain perspective.
		I'm against automation to a certain perspective.
		People need to work.
		People need to have jobs.
		You can't just replace everything.
		You can't do it.
		You can't just give everyone UBI and tell them to fuck off.
		That's how people, that's how we don't have human civilization anymore, in my opinion.
		And like the technocrats, they believe this.
		They say, we're not going to be able to beat AI.
		We have to merge with AI.
		This is what all these top people say.
		It's like it's a transhumanist cult.
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's complex.
		Like, because with the AI, there's the thing that people talk about where jobs are being replaced.
		Right.
		But I think it goes even beyond that, where it's like people's day-to-day lives.
		They're outsourcing a lot of their thinking to AI.
		They're like using AI to just like talk about stuff they would normally be using like their critical thinking skills to analyze.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And my dad's got a great saying.
		He's like, hey, like breathing is hard.
		Just use a respirator.
		Right.
		And sadly, I think we will get to that point eventually.
		They have done everything they can to try to destroy Christianity because Christ is the only way.
		I wasn't really religious, but I know a godless society falls apart.
		Amen.
		Very true.
		Rex, you are Tim Dylan.
		You wear a fat suit and shades and do a Boston accent.
		Just kidding about that one, but your dad is Bill.
		At least the Bill Hicks people can have fun, right?
		At least the Bill Hicks people can have fun.
		We love that.
		We love our Bill Hicks people.
		Rex, can we trust Joe Rogan?
		I don't understand why he can't have Alex on JRE anymore who's gatekeeping.
		I thought the censorship era was over.
		I think Rogan's completely compromised.
		I mean, you look at he's he's a he's a laundry for the billionaire tech people.
		That's all that goes on the show anymore.
		And, you know, like the original JRE 9-11 had 33 million views.
		Why wouldn't you want to have that guy on again?
		Right.
		Why wouldn't you want to have that guy on again?
		And then you got Rogan coming out and saying, well, if Jesus comes back, it'll probably be a computer and all this stuff.
		Well, where'd you get that from, Rogan?
		You smoke pot and come up with that?
		I smoked plenty of pot.
		I didn't come up with that theory.
		Like some tech overlord told you that and you thought it was a cool idea to repeat.
unidentified		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, Rogan used to do a phenomenal show.
		I haven't watched a full JRE besides like an interview of someone that's actually interesting in years and years and years, right?
		But I just, it's disappointing.
		It's very disappointing, in my opinion.
		But you know what?
		I'm going to go back to my stories because I got quite a few things that I did want to discuss with y'all tonight.
		And instead of getting into the Ukrainian conscription footage, which I had a lot of, I want to cover the, I want to cover the EU situation.
		We had someone in here that said they were from Italy.
		Let's talk about a little bit of this.
		And this is not the main story.
		This just ties into it.
		It's just real clean because Twitter auto-generates the news stories sometimes.
		And I'll just lead off with this.
		Elon Musk calls for EU abolition after a £120 million X fine.
		The penalty came under the Digital Services Act for issues like deceptive blue check marks, unclear ad data, and limited researcher access.
		That's complete bullshit.
		It's all about the censorship.
		That's just their lawyer language.
		Isn't it cute?
		And that's another thing.
		We'll touch on that really quick.
		The culture of the AI, or not AI, the culture of the HR, right?
		The HR language that these politicians speak, right?
		It's like they go to school to learn this way of confusing the public, right?
		And misrepresenting their actual policy.
		We just want to make that point really quick.
		Musk labeled the EU bureaucracy overreached, not true democracy, and opposed and endorsed the post comparing it to the Fourth Reich.
		Voices split with supporters praising his push for sovereignty on migration and speech, while critics linked his words to Russian interests and warned of weakening Europe's unity.
		Who had the idea of forming the EU?
		Do you know?
		Adolf Hitler.
		Adolf Hitler wanted to install King Edward of England as the de facto ruler of like a European coalition, which would later become the EU.
		And shortly after World War II, this is what they enacted and put in power.
		So this, this, it is in fact a fourth Reich.
		It is in fact a fourth Reich.
		EU dictator, she's unelected, Ursula Vonderleyan equates free speech to a virus and censorship to its vaccine at the Copenhagen Democracy Summit, no less.
		Europe's speech is dead.
		2025, 120 million fine for deceptive blue ticks and ad opacity.
		170 German home raids for hate posts.
		170 home raids for hate posts.
		So you post something, they'll come get you.
		UK averaging 12K arrests per year for tweets.
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		That's ridiculous.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Can you believe that?
new groyper in south ▲ ● ▼		Are you aware of that?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Did you know about that?
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I knew about like the UK being stricter with online presence stuff and like using police for that, but I did not know the number was 12,000 arrests per year.
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		That's ridiculous.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		France indites Telegram founder duroff over user content.
		Swiss polls push full X ban as threat to democracy.
		Brussels owns your thoughts.
		Let's watch this clip here.
ursula von der leyen ▲ ● ▼		And finally, it takes results.
ursula von der leyen ▲ ● ▼		As technology evolves, we need to build up a societal immunity around information manipulation because research has shown that pre-bunking is much more successful than debunking.
unidentified		Freebooting is basically the opposite of debunking.
ursula von der leyen ▲ ● ▼		In short, prevention is terrible.
		Perhaps if you think of information manipulation as a virus, instead of treating infection, once it has taken hold, that is debunking.
		It is much better to vaccinate so that the body is inoxulated.
		Pre-bunking is the same approach because this information relies on people passing it on to others.
		It is essential that people know what malign information's influence is and what the techniques are.
		They are behind it.
		And as the knowledge goes, our chances are being influenced to stop continuing society that will lose the resilience.
		That's what we need.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No one more evil than that lady.
		What's pre-bunking?
		Oh, you mean, you mean censorship, right?
		You mean deciding what people can and cannot say.
		You know, who knows best?
		The government knows best.
		When has that ever been true in history?
		Now, this woman, no one voted for this woman, Will.
		No one voted for her.
		She's the unelected head of the EU Commission.
		She used to be the head of Germany's, she used to be Germany's defense minister.
		So now she's in charge and she gets to decide who speaks and who doesn't speak.
		And I want to go to this clip because it's key.
		EU president Ursula von der Leyen says the EU protects freedom of speech.
		She told a crowd protesting against her they should feel lucky they're in the EU where they can protest.
		At the very moment, a man was arrested for protesting.
		Watch this clip right here.
unidentified		And first of all, to those who scream and yell here so loud, they can be happy that they are a free country like Finland.
		So you got someone protesting where they have nothing to do with the people.
		If they won't be in Muscat, they won't be in jail.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know you don't have audio.
		Let's see, these are the noble people.
		These are the arbiters of who decides what's right or wrong.
		German court gives woman harsher punishment than convicted rapists for calling him disgraceful pig.
		A woman was found guilty of defaming the man who was convicted for gang raping a 15-year-old in Hamburg in 2020.
		And this is what one of the European MPs says: a message to piggyland, referring to us, the U.S., as piggyland.
		There is no censorship in Europe, and everyone has to follow our rules.
		Trump fights the free press, suing newspapers and TV stations, so leave us alone.
		Europe is, it's literally 1984.
		And like, if you look at it, and I showed you some of the clips of Ukrainian conscription, you've never seen that before, right?
		Them tossing people in the vans and driving them away.
		I'll go to that here shortly.
		I mean, and this is why we do this show.
		Once you become aware of these gross human rights abuses, I mean, why are we bombing boats in Venezuela?
		Why aren't we exporting freedom and democracy to Europe if they're arresting their own citizens for speaking, right?
		And during COVID, if you look at places like the UK and Australia, you post you're going to go to a protest and they show up to your house, they take you to jail.
		That's just true.
		And that's how we ended up where we are today.
		Rumors swirling that the EU Commission will fine X hundreds of millions of dollars for not engaging in censorship.
		The EU should be supporting free speech, not attacking American companies over garbage.
		Good tweet from JD Vance, the VP.
		I agree with that.
		We need to see more of that.
		Now, here's a classic, and everyone's seen this clip a million times.
		I'll play it again.
		And it's subtitled, so you'll be able to pick it up.
		Will, I want your opinion on this.
unidentified		Say that you did not want your money going to immigrants who, quote, rape our kids and get priority, end quote.
		This offense is so serious that an immediate custodial sentence is unavoidable.
		Would you stand, please?
		The sentence that I pass has been reduced by one-third to reflect your guilty plea.
		The sentence is one of 20 months imprisonment.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Say that you did not two years in jail for saying you don't want immigrants, you don't want to pay for immigrants to rape.
		I mean, is that an illegal thing to say?
		Is that a criminal threat?
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not the same thing as a criminal threat.
		And like this example, it's like these legalists are normalizing this type of punishment for these behaviors.
		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they act like it, they act like it's the normal thing to do.
unidentified		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then you got this ridiculous fucking faggot.
		And I'll just call him that because we're in America and I can call him that.
		You got this censorious, evil, monstrous, demon, authoritarian 1984 creature who's literally sending someone to jail just because he tweeted something about his own country, an opinion he had about his own nation.
		You got this censorious monster who sends him to jail for nearly two years.
		And the bad thing is the mean language.
		Like if I was over in the UK and I called him that, I'm sure I'd go to jail, you know?
		But thank God we're in America, at least for now, right?
		And, you know, all these people in the EU, they constantly post about the Ukrainians and the Ukrainian struggle, the Ukrainian fight, and how we must back them to the hilt and must give them all the weapons.
		And the evil Russians are coming to take over all of Europe.
		And that's why the Ukrainians must be supported.
		Look at this video.
		Hey, they're running out of soldiers.
		They got to continue the war, right?
		Isn't that moral and good?
		See, this is what our country supports, and we give them money.
		That's a war crime.
		That's a war crime.
		I think we can all agree on that.
		See, if you draft Dodge, they can send you to jail legally.
		They can send you to jail.
		And that's what, like Muhammad Ali, like conscientious objector, right?
		At the end of the day.
		But this is not legal.
		In any theater in any world since World War II, it's not been legal to treat people like this.
		But what do they do?
unidentified		I've got more.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		See, they've got people on the street, man.
		They got people on the street.
		This is an English bill.
		A respect order, maybe for the purpose of preventing the respondent from engaging in anti-social behavior.
		A, prohibit the respondent from doing anything described in the order.
		B, require the respondent to do anything described in the order.
		So just government can make you do whatever you want and can stop you from doing whatever they want.
		You think that's freedom?
unidentified		No.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You think that should be our ally?
unidentified		No.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's disgraceful, ladies and gentlemen.
		And these are the people that we support.
		We call the Russians evil and then we support the EU when they do this stuff.
		He's guilty of a hate crime for saying that.
		You see, you see, that speech right there, how different is that from the British speech that got that guy 20 months, right?
		And that's just a father talking about his children that he's worried about.
		And see, the reason why we bring all this up is because we present the possible future that may happen in America if we're not aware of our rights and how valuable they are.
		And I think a lot of Americans, particularly young Americans, we take this stuff for granted and we don't actually look across the world.
		And when we look across the world, we pointed a place like Russia or China or Venezuela or something.
		We say, oh, they're authoritarian.
		Oh, they're dictators because they're mean openly, whatever, because they're openly oppressive.
		But then these places that couch themselves in the image of being liberty, democracy, wrap yourself in the pride flag, show that you're good, XYZ.
		These are the people that are the most monstrous, the most censorious.
		And there's no good guys on the planet.
		There's no good guys on the planet.
		And if anyone tries to sell you a Star Wars story of a rebel alliance fighting an evil empire, it doesn't exist.
		It's all evil empire and it's all evil empire fighting each other all the time.
		Well, I've pontificated enough.
		This has been a long enough live stream.
		Sorry, the quality wasn't better.
		My head's still a little jumbled.
		Today's the first day I've eaten two full meals.
		I've been pretty sick through the past week.
		A lot of us have gotten the norovirus going around.
		It's pretty bad here in Austin.
		And I thank you for joining us here tonight.
		Will, what is your Twitter?
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		Big Will Dollar Bill.
		I'm also on Instagram.
		It's the same handle, BigWill Dollar Bill.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Follow him.
		Be good for, you know, DMing the ladies.
		You gotta get a big follower count.
@bigwilldollabill ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, be nice to white chocolate.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Be nice to white chocolate.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you all for joining us tonight.

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