Rex Jones and Tim Tompkins dissect the 2025 "ragebait" phenomenon, critiquing divisive narratives like Oxford’s word-of-the-year pick while linking it to D.C.’s Afghan asylum radicalization—29-year-old Ramanullah Lockenwal’s alleged attack pausing under Trump’s 2023 policy. They expose U.S. Venezuela strikes as potential war crimes, citing a Washington Post claim of Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s Geneva Convention violations, yet note partisan media ignores systemic failures like $800B Pentagon audits or BRICS alternatives. Shifting to supplements, they promote Primal Core’s affordable, high-potency products (e.g., Ashwagandha, zinc-based testosterone support), contrasting predatory industry practices with their Texas-made, Kaizen-driven approach. The episode ends by urging independent verification over rage bait and emphasizing community-focused solutions. [Automatically generated summary]
Yeah, you know, I, for years, I looked at the news kind of in a doomer way where I like, I had thoughts and opinions on it.
This is, of course, after I stepped away from Infowars, but, you know, having an opportunity to really flesh these ideas out, you know, get to bounce things back and forth between each other, various topics, culture, politics, you name it.
You know, it feels good to be politically aware, but we were just talking about you potentially getting a dog in the future.
The Oxford University Press promises it's not rage baiting with its two-word word of the year.
The publishing house announced on December 1st that its experts had named RageBait as the 2025 word of the year.
The phrase is shorthand for online content that is intentionally meant to elicit anger.
The term has tripled in usage over the last year, according to Oxford.
The fact that the word rage bait exists and has seen such a dramatic surge in usage means that we're increasingly aware of the manipulation tactics we can be drawn into online.
And you know, that is a good thing, right?
That is a good thing.
And you're talking about this in relation to several stories because, you know, me, I'm someone that's always kind of autistically been online, surfed the internet, surfed the news, you name it.
But you've been on Twitter.
You've been growing your platform.
You've been doing the show and you keep noticing these reoccurring themes, right?
These things kind of meant to target people.
And we even see it in the breaking news stories almost as if they're designed in some way.
Me being from a very technical background, I'm like guilty until proven innocent.
Like it's all about data for me.
It's all about facts.
So like normally, like I read something on a headline, I don't go and take that headline and then I just go like tell a friend.
I'll typically like fact check it like in real time.
Like that's like, especially on the big stuff.
And you guys have maybe seen some of my threads recently where I just, I want to, I want to spread a little bit of the love of the information as I see the things on.
And you know, this is the thing that I really like about you, Tim.
This is the thing I like about you as a person.
One of the things, of course, I like about you as a person is like when I come to you or we have some sort of argument or disagreement and I have some sort of passionate opinion and I've based it off past information or an opinion just that I have in general.
I'll come to you with that topic and then you'll be like, no, actually, I believe XYZ.
And usually when you come to people with a belief or a topic that you have or an opinion that you have, they'll just kind of respond to you in the same way.
Whereas you, it literally is all information, factual science, literature-based.
We're like, you know, I have this study.
I have this graph.
And that's why the deep dives we do on Sunday are so valuable.
We're doing a little mini one here, but just get into why you research like this and what you've seen online.
I mean, the primary reason why I research like this is because the same, like before we started the show, the whole concept of the gray area, that's something that like in the past five years, I've really embodied in myself after like COVID and a lot of the misinformation that came out there.
I look everyone's susceptible to the same things.
I'm not perfect.
I definitely fall prey to some of these things at the same time.
I've even had YouTube videos that like do an excellent breakdown of something.
And then now I've been plugging in the transcripts and like actually researching them and like 80% of the video is wrong.
And I will, I will highlight what it really is about.
Look, word of the year rage bait, what has prompted me to do this like mini deep dive?
And it's not like it was Elon Musk tweet, but then I also just in right now, people are using the anger that a lot of these like, you know, I'm going to say, not gonna sugar, like a lot of white people are angry right now.
And I can, and I can see why and all the madness that happened with Biden and stuff.
But what I'm seeing specific accounts do is they take some information and they don't give you the correlation of what's really causing it.
They just give you it as a blanket statement and it just adds fuel to the fire of like anger.
And then people are just like kitchen sinking and adding in their own inference on like what's leading to like the white man's being evaporated from real time.
And I'm like, okay, I see where the anger is coming from, but let me look at this objectively and find out why do people feel like the white man is disappearing.
Is it immigration?
Is it birth rate?
What is the true cause?
And that's what I just wanted to do was just highlight the information.
It doesn't mean I'm like sitting here being like, right, well, white people.
And we're not using that to excuse the insane illegal immigration, the entry of 20, 30 million people into the country.
We're not talking about that as having no demographic influence or not being a part of the equation.
What we're talking about seems to be really a class law, which seems to happen.
And we see this with the Uber rich.
We see this with the billionaires and the Uber billionaires, all the people that say, hey, we got too many people.
Well, like once you reach the level of having everything, you're like, well, you know, I only want this for myself and the limited amount of people that I'm descended are descended from me that can sustain this, right?
When I do stuff like this, my ultimate goal is to not like rage bait people into like being like, oh, he hates this or he hates that.
It's to push my agenda of, look, data driven.
A data-driven analysis on what's really happening.
And if you start sifting through the bullshit, you start finding the truth and then you can go fix the problems at their core issue.
Like as long as you can sit there and say, well, this is the issue and do all this rage baiting, you're not actually solving the core problems because people aren't aware.
You can't solve an equation if you don't know what the variables to that equation are.
And I'm going to put on the leftist hat, the hat that Tucker Carlson recently has put on, kind of referring to the whole situation of being like, hey, I want to burn down your strip mall, right?
Like in my city, like, why is my city full of like karate studios and like nail salons?
Like, like, why is this a thing?
Of course, this is a hypothetical scenario, not endorsing any violence or anything, talking about what Tucker Carlson has covered himself.
But I'm going to put on my leftist hat from the same perspective.
It is an issue in this country, not necessarily the demographics per se, but the fact that people, both left and right, have been made to fight each other on the basis of race while completely ignoring every other societal problem.
And we have other topics we're going to get into today.
Tim's got another topic in relation to rage bait, kind of like this whole topic being rage bait relating to the shooting of the DC National Guard.
And oh, you know, the guy who did it, the Afghani, oh, we have to ban the third world, all that.
We hate them.
Oh, he's a CIA puppet.
He's a CIA agent.
You know, he worked for them over there and he's a broken toy, essentially.
So we're going to get into that.
And then we're also going to get into the ongoing war crimes taking place in Venezuela.
And my point saying all this is our dollar is worth nothing.
Food is crazy expensive.
The energy is not, in fact, cheaper.
At most, it stayed the same.
The issues that actually matter to Americans on the ground, they're all getting worse, but people don't care as long as they can fight on the basis of identity.
And at least with the right wing, at least with the Republicans, you can say, look, if you ask your average Republican, they're going to say, yes, I'm a capitalist.
Yes, free market.
Yes, no limits.
Well, we're living kind of in the end result of that type of, you know, political environment, right?
But then you go to the left, the people that claim to be, you know, socialist or democratic socialist or even communist, those people have betrayed that identity a million times more than the conservatives, no matter how bad or evil they may be with their pure for-profit industry.
They betrayed their ethos because these are supposed to be the people that are class warriors, right?
These are the people that fight for the proletariat, that fight for the poor.
But in fact, they're the biggest purveyors of the identity politics that we see.
So as we get into the numbers and as we get into these stories tonight, I just want to keep in mind that it's not about black, white, yellow, brown, red.
It's not about any of that.
It's about how they're siphoning out the wealth and power and control from everyone.
And of course, a big part of that is you have a native population.
They're used to rights.
They're used to a system.
You import people that aren't used to that system and then you can kind of take more away from them.
Yeah, let's actually just start with this ABC about Trump and what he's doing.
So if everybody who's been paying attention, they know that there was these two National Guard members, you know, formerly, they were basically murdered in cold blood.
Let's click this video.
They have new updates on this guy.
Okay.
And let's just play this real quick.
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We're learning the potentially new information about the suspect in the shooting of two National Guard members in the nation's capital.
The Secretary of Homeland Security says he was radicalized after arriving in the U.S. from Afghanistan.
20-year-old Sarah Beckstrom died on Thanksgiving Day.
Here's ABC's Mola Langi.
Tonight, new clues as to what may have driven 29-year-old Afghan national Ramanullah Lockenwal to allegedly shoot two West Virginia National Guardsmen just two blocks from the White House.
20-year-old specialist Sarah Beckstrom dying of her injuries on Thanksgiving Day.
Staff Sergeant Andrew Wolfe now fighting for his life.
Secretary of Homeland Security Christy Noam saying Lockenwall could have been radicalized here in the U.S.
We continue to talk to his family and his works for the CIA in Afghanistan.
And then he, oh, oh, he's radicalized here.
You see, you see, it's never the government's fault, right?
All these horrible things that happened with these crazy, drugged up, wind-up toy people, like the Ukrainian guy who was trying to recruit Afghani soldiers that tried to kill Trump on the golf course.
Like all these people, oh, they work for the CIA.
They work for the government.
Like, that's just my observation.
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His contacts.
More details will be revealed and we'll release those when it's appropriate.
Authorities still investigating, but so far have not released any evidence pointing to Lockenwall having ties to a terrorist organization.
The husband and father of five entered the U.S. in 2021 and was granted asylum in April.
A source tells ABC News Lockenwall was unable to work in his adopted home of Washington state work permit and to the Associated Press years with his new life in the, well, his mental health reportedly deteriorated.
The shooting leading the Trump administration to pause all asylum decisions and at least for now, stopping the granting of visas to Afghan nationals.
And you know, it's weird because you're, you're, you're hitting on this point.
And I was literally researching the last two days on like what we did in Iraq and Afghanistan, all the things.
And I'm going to do like a mega deep dive on that too, guys, where the United States did a lot of messed up stuff.
You know, just like, okay, just very briefly, not to get into the weeds, it is very well-known fact now, like you had mentioned before, there were no weapons of mass destruction.
There's a man who essentially was like a war hawk, basically convinced Bush to go and invade Iraq, which, by the way, Osama bin Laden had nothing to do with Iraq at the time.
You know, Trump is now a part of the political machine and he wouldn't say something like this today, I believe, definitely wouldn't during the 2015, 2016 campaign.
You know what?
He said he said Hillary Clinton created ISIS.
And, you know, like that's partially true.
Maybe it's not 100% true or the context is a little different, but yes, she was a part because she was the secretary of state that helped destabilize that region and helped make that happen, right?
I was like, well, you know, a majority of white people I know and across the board, like I'd say like close to like probably 95 plus percent of white people aren't racist.
But we take the one or two guys that are racist and then we say, look at this man.
This is what the white people believe.
And that pisses a lot of people off and actually what makes them actually start hating people because they're like, that's that cycle.
So we're trying to eliminate cycles by bringing awareness to these situations to where, like Rex is saying, we had something to do with this at the end of the day.
Yeah, I was like, okay, the madness that Biden did.
Right.
Unacceptable.
Too many people not checking who's coming in, all that stuff.
I was like, I'm not for like banning asylum completely, but like you, you don't just, you got to turn the faucet down a little bit to where you can actually manage and sift out the people who are actually supposed to be here for like good reasons, not some guy who may have like gone off the rails.
But there's very tough to actually figure out who that is sometimes, who's going to be the crazy one or something like that.
And this is what we talk about a lot on the gray area about the failures of the United States government stacking up over time and how it isn't necessarily limited to one administration, right?
We talk about inflation.
We talk about monetary policy, geopolitics, war.
It's all a cascade effect.
And how the CIA actually works, and it's really how our government works is, you know, the president will issue a national security directive to the CIA.
And the president could do this 10, 20, 30 years ago.
And they're still working that old order.
That's how all these things happen.
So our government throughout these different administrations, I mean, Putin, he's been in power 25 years.
Putin knows his government, but every four to eight years, a new bozo comes in and a new administration comes in.
And I think it is proof that there's divided factions in there and it isn't just one total board that runs everything.
You'll see the libs get in, they do lib shit.
Conservatives get in, they do conservative shit, but it's all bent towards the same angle as serving the special interests, whoever they were that put them in power.
But it's like you got to pick and choose where it makes sense.
All third world countries doesn't make quite sense to me quite yet of like, well, you know, somebody from this third world country in Africa had nothing to do with it.
If you'll remember, I believe it was 2018, Trump's famous Muslim ban, right?
I think it was like 30 countries, right?
So I understand it 100% from the perspective of, oh, we don't want these places like, you know what?
Like maybe like people from Sudan, you know, people from, you know, Somalia, people from these areas, maybe we don't want to take people from in over there because we're having problems with them or whatnot.
But one could also make the argument for legal asylum.
So it's a very complicated issue.
The president, I believe they sued him over this last year.
Whenever the president finds that the entry of any aliens or of that class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or non-immigrants or impose on them the entry of aliens, any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
Yes, and so that uh, that 212F is the exact clause, and this is the court hearing that you were just mentioning: Trump versus Hawaii in 2017, 2020 blocks it.
People sued the Supreme Court upheld upheld the final version.
Uh, in Trump v. Hawaii, the Supreme Court upheld the president's authority to use section 212F of the Immigration Nationality Act to protect the United States through entry restrictions.
The proclamation fully restriction limits the entry of nationals from 12 countries found to be deficient in regards to screening and vetting and determined to pose a very high risk to the United States.
Afghanistan, Burma, Chad, Republic of the Congo, Equatorial Guinea.
Yeah, like, here's the thing: for something like this, where tensions are very high in a specific region, and you don't know how the people are turning on.
Because here's the thing: you get like you spit out a certain type of person depending on what life experiences they went through.
Well, if you're living in Somalia right now for the last 15 years, you're not coming out of there fully like feeling good.
Yes, somebody made the mess, but then, like, to turn around and not expect there to be like some bad eggs in there that hate America, it's very hard for me for you to rationalize that there wouldn't be that.
People love America to the point where they're like, I need to come here in order to do certain things.
Now, to the wider base of what Americans are saying now, we can't let everybody in.
And that's the controlled aspect that I'm talking about.
It's just when you've got that many people, I have to also take the understanding that this is a more complicated situation than like what you and I or the average person just sits here and balks about.
Like there's so many layers to how we had created an infrastructure like decades ago.
And it hasn't necessarily been fully reformed because it's very difficult to do that.
And we haven't necessarily like adjusted it for the current state of the world at this point.
Well, you know, it's a very, it's a very beautifully evil thing that's done, right?
So you're the United States, you're the world's reserve currency.
Essentially, you're able to issue an infinite amount of IOUs to any nation and they have to actually give you resource product finished goods, you name it.
We create this system for ourselves here.
Then we send away our industry to these other countries that we're doing the business with because it's cheaper because they're using our monetary system.
And then once the country really doesn't have that infrastructure that you're talking about or the support for the population, then the surge of migration comes in.
And this is something that we've seen really over the past 30 years.
Saudi Arabia, at that point in time, we went in with like our private.
We found, we basically to let it like, let us go in there and like, basically farm their like we give them, I mean some oil and then we give them money.
But in order to all that rigging, we had to build the infrastructure.
Yeah, we used Saddam, we used Osama Bin Laden's father's business, which made them very wealthy, but ultimately it's that resource extraction is what I'm talking about.
That that's really where I'm trying to get at.
Here is like you go into a country and that was one of the reasons why Osama, in his 20s, he was like, all of these countries like Russia and United States are coming in sucking up our resources.
So he's like, you know what I'm gonna do?
I'm gonna find, I'm gonna create this rebel group and I'm gonna create Al-Qaeda to combat and fight against these other countries.
And it wasn't just towards America, Russia was also.
We helped him do it, of course, because who else do we not like Russia?
You know it's very interesting.
You know Al-Qaeda ISIS ISIL, these groups.
They never attack Israel.
So, like our interests in the region.
By saying that, I'm not.
I'm not saying Israel, Israel, Israel.
Like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not making that point.
I'm making the point as in Israel is aligned with our interests, and these mysterious militant groups that we, you know, support, train, and advertise, you know, they mysteriously end up never attacking them.
And then they attack the secular governments, right?
Like, this is the key.
And this is the thing that we see is that we talk about biased systems a lot here on the gray area.
We talk about, you know, like I talked about earlier, like war and inflation, right?
It's someone kicking a can down the road.
It's someone scamming someone and not caring about what their grandchildren are going to have to deal with.
And you end up in a situation where the third world is wrecked because it's been extracted, it's been exploited, it's been hurt.
And then the first world is also crumbling because everything that made it successful has been extracted from it.
And now you have this broken parasitic system where both of the entities are essentially feeding off each other.
And there's a predatory class at the top that makes sure it stays in motion.
We're going to talk about Elon Musk and his, you know, white extinction, white depopulation tweets.
We'll get into it.
But white people are a global minority, right?
White people are like 8%, right?
And you look at countries like China, for example, look at the Han Chinese, they have a billion.
You look at the Indians, they have even more.
And you look at various population groups of Europeans, like for me, like I want a homeland, right?
Like I want a place that is mine where my people can live and go on and descend and continue to be in that area.
And I think the critique of immigration, particularly just across the world, everyone comes to America is: hey, like we've seen what's happened in Europe, right?
We've seen the policies in Europe, and you can argue, oh, that's a different class.
That's a different type of issue.
They've imported a lot of people that have this religion, and that has in itself a conflict with the culture of the area.
And the people coming here, by and large, are Hispanic people, and there's not that same like Islamic influence.
So you could say they're more homogenous to the culture.
Either way, do white people deserve a place where they can live and be confident that they're going to have a sizable portion or majority of the population?
Do you believe that?
Or do you just say, ah, immigration, it is what it is.
And this is where the rage bait comes in because people start getting mad about these things.
Like, for example, besides my skin pigmentation, right?
I grew up in a very like similar background to like, you know, a Josh Mohai guy.
You know, I had a nuclear family.
I had mom and dad.
I went to private school.
I had fortunate opportunities that other people didn't.
Right.
On paper.
And like somebody would hear me on the mic with like no screen.
Like most people wouldn't be able to tell that I'm black.
All I'm saying is, is like if you take the race side of the equation, the preservation of like culture is really where the issue hits specifically.
Because whether you want to call it a white thing, let's just call it American and in general.
Like America has its own version of culture.
And if you take it from that macro perspective and say, well, I don't want everything, like now everything is in Spanish and in English and like there's the eroding of that.
You could probably make more of that argument.
But like I'm not necessarily like anti-whites where I'm like, oh, they don't have a right to preserve.
But like the extinction part and tying it to immigration and kitchen sinking it with a bunch of things is where I have the issue.
It's not you believe that's being used as a weapon to kind of destabilize people and to get people instead of working together to fight with each other over this topic.
And ultimately, you know, I agree with you at a certain level on that perspective.
The way I see it is it's all a bullshit, meaningless debate.
It's just like Fox News and CNN fighting each other.
The whole race thing is purely designed to distract from the class issue.
Now, I'm going to explain where I'm going here with this, but we have to go back to the rage bait of what this thing that triggered me even doing this deep dive.
Yeah, I'll go to it of that of that tweet.
Yeah.
So Elon tweeted this.
He quoted this, but white people are on the verge of extinction.
Global population of white people 100 years ago, roughly 35%.
50 years ago, 20%, 25%.
Those numbers are actually not accurate, by the way.
You have one of the biggest platforms as a person and you post this and it says white people are minorities and must take their country back.
No more tolerance, no more suicidal empathy.
You can take it however you want, but because there's so many layers of people being angry and like you got like H-1B going on and you got this Afghani situation, what people do is they look at this and they're like, it has to be the Mexican.
has to be the the black guy doing the things with the snow bunny like there's it just like it it takes the it it makes race the primary driver when actually that's not what's driving you know this quote-unquote extinction of white people It's really just about.
And you can literally see as you make more money, you have less kids.
And if you scroll down here, we can read a little bit of this.
The decreasing relationship between the two variables demonstrates the connection between fertility choices and economic considerations.
In general, poor countries tend to have higher levels of fertility than rich countries.
In particular, women tend to give birth to no fewer than three children in countries where GDP per capita is below $1,000 per year.
Countries where GDP cap per capita is above $10,000 per year, women tend to give birth no more than two children.
Now, given that, why I brought up the whole Japan situation, given this, was because let's say Japan, let's say Japan was, I mean, they're not immigrating people in.
They're literally truly like, no one's moving to Japan.
Now, if you look at this crap, at this chart, over time, the Japanese population, like that, if you want to talk about extinct, that is the true definition of what you're going to see is why it's going out.
And it's because the Japanese people and the South Koreans, they live good lives in general.
They all have good economic living.
Some of the highest standard of living.
They make a lot of money and they make decisions based off of that.
So really, what this all drives down to is choices.
So, you know, majority of these white countries, they became rich early.
Like if you just think about Europe in general and you think about America and you think about all of these Western societies that have high populate, that are, that are white, majority of white, more often than not, I don't, I don't think I could think of a country that's like a third world country that's all white people.
You know, it's very interesting to me because, you know, America being a very new, very young country in the grand scheme of things, but also being, you know, the beneficiary of, we're really the custodian of Western culture or Western civilization, as you could look at it, going from the Romans, going to the British, then going to the Americans.
I think that we exported our system to a lot of people and that allowed their systems themselves to get jumpstarted.
And we've taken advantage of various populations.
We've done XYZ, you name it.
But we've really, you know, these places that were literally their tribes that are underdeveloped, they now have industry and whatnot.
And now they're starting to advance for themselves.
And even though they're still in a developing form where they're still having the eight kids and the population is still growing rapidly, eventually, if the model follows, this will be the same everywhere.
We're pulling up every like the Western society in America is pulling everybody in a particular direction to where they're as you go from second to first, you get access to more information.
People start making different decisions.
But just look at this chart, guys.
Like the red is lower and blue is higher.
Like just Africa.
Africa is like the poorest continent out there.
And they like even more Mexico's fertility rate, by the way, is just very similar to America's.
They're like at 1.9.
We're at like 1.6 because we've taken them from being third world to second world.
Africa, just like that, look at that center region.
Some of the poorest regions have the highest fertility rates.
And then you have people like Elon, you have people online, the rage engagement farmers, you name it.
And they're using to push their own opinion, their own agenda.
My thinking, even just doing the show in general and getting started again, why I really wanted to do this is, hey, I want to be the most informed person on all these issues.
I care about all of them.
So I want to be able to have in-depth conversations about them.
And then how many times do we say we know the information, but we haven't reviewed it?
And that's what I think about the audience.
And I think about people, I know this X, Y, Z, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Just look at the graph more time.
I don't have the graph to reference and your opinion.
Yeah, I didn't know this stuff until I just spent a couple of hours just looking into this stuff, just doing the digging, pulling up the data, and just seeing what's the leading cause and what's going on.
And I thought I knew what was driving it.
And I kind of was guilty.
I was like, well, maybe it's maybe it is the Mexicans overrunning and they're having kids with white people.
And, you know, it's going to be a bunch of mixed kids.
Like, I was like, maybe that could be it.
But and then I realized, oh, Mexico is not even, their birth rate is as low as ours.
We really, we have to do a deep dive on depopulation in general because right now we're kind of talking about like overpopulation narrative, overpopulation narrative.
Now, you know, we've become more aware of kind of the societal collapse that comes from really not having the children.
Right.
And coincidentally, all these billionaires, all these super rich people with bunkers, they love this.
They brag about it.
I mean, you look at Africa right here.
Look at all this blue.
Bill Gates, he goes into one of these countries.
He reduces the fertility rate by 15%.
He's like, he's proud of it.
He's like, we lowered the fertility.
It's amazing, it's great at the end of the day.
The people in power they want to kill everybody, and like in all the scenarios and all the books from the 20th centuries, if the academics published that Kissinger, Henry Kissinger himself backed, he called people useless eaters, all this, you name it.
They want like 500 million people, and everyone else, you know, they don't really care about them.
So we can talk about this, we can look at this, and we can look at it from the Chud perspective of getting rage baited based on demographics, or we could look at it as a total system of, hey, you know, this is interesting, but they're going to kill everybody.
And like, this, this is my core thesis.
And I know you're a little more optimistic and that you, you, you disagree on hope for humanity, but we'll do one of these deep dives.
And they do have a higher fertility rate, but then when you combine the abortion into it, and this is kind of the sick thing in the American system, like, you know, like, I'm a very pro-life individual, and I'm pro-life in regards, and this is how pro-life I am.
I realized that I was inconsistent with my values because of my stance on the pro-life issue in regards to being a quote-unquote conservative years ago.
Because if I'm a conservative and I'm pro-life and I want a baby to die in the womb and I want the baby to be born and to have a life and to have an opportunity to be a human, if I have that viewpoint, I have to support universal health care.
I just do.
Should the mom have to pay to have the child, right?
Like if a child is going to go hungry, should that child not be fed?
Right?
And these, like, if you hold a belief like I do with the pro-life issue, it you can't have contradictions in it.
And we're searching for the contradictions with these stories that we go through.
Yeah, it's just all dangerous rhetoric at the end of the day.
The whole aspect of like rage baiting really bothers me.
It's just at the end of the day, the more you can get people to be angry, people eat that slop up and they are growing their platforms and becoming the biggest microphones.
For me, I could be spitting out like these facts, be doing all these threads, and it's not going to get nearly as much viewership as the guy who's just like, um, black.
Like, if I'm like, if I say something like I'm a black person, I'm like, all black people.
My question for you would be, okay, prior to you seeing all this information and us having this conversation, if I were to never show you this information and you just go based off of what you've learned up till now, what would you have thought the root cause of fertility rates being lower?
Like I would, I agree kind of, but it's a breakdown of the data and there are different motivations as in like, I believe that I believe that it should be preserved more than you do.
And I believe that actions should be taken by the government for the native population to be preserved more than you do.
But on cause and effect, we agree.
So I'm with you there.
And like it is ultimately about when you have the money and you have the kushy lifestyle, you usually don't have the kid.
And that's societal weakness on our part and decadence on our part as being Americans.
The real decadence of being an American isn't eating the cheeseburger or going and getting drunk or, you know, just like wasting your life.
The real failure to be an American and to further the continuance of your civilization is to not have children.
You got to, we've got to, I've assigned this as homework.
You have to watch this movie, Tim, because this is a classic and it describes the exact situation that you're talking about here, kind of in perfect satire.
It's one of the great satires ever made, in my opinion.
Send the black helicopter, pick us up, just in the show, get rid of it all.
End it all here.
But look, you're tough.
It's cool.
Gun, missile, whatever.
However, you kill somebody.
War crimes are not okay.
And this administration has been involved in numerous war crimes in Venezuela.
And the situation is ongoing.
Not only have we struck these boats, these, you know, these are, these are the boats with all the fentanyl in the world, right?
There's no other fentanyl in the world.
All the fentanyl in the world is on these boats, and that's why we have to kill the people.
Even though the boats don't have enough fuel to get anywhere and it's too small and it's packed with people, looks like trafficking instead of a drug operation.
That's where all the fentanyl in the world is, Tim.
Did you know this?
100% of the fentanyl in the world is located on these boats that we're hitting.
The supply of just drugs in general from Venezuela, it's it's basically nil.
When you look at Colombia, when you look at Mexico, when you look at these other countries, we want regime change in that country.
We want it in Venezuela.
The lady that won the Nobel Peace Prize, I'm blanking on her name right now.
She is the person that Trump has decided is going to be the new leader of Venezuela.
And Maduro, Maduro has seen the posturing.
Maduro has seen the burn boats.
Maduro has seen the buildup of the U.S. military fleet, the Navy fleet on his coastline.
And he's basically begging and capitulating and saying, I will do whatever you want.
I will work with you.
I want to stay in power, but I'll work with you.
I'll do anything.
And Trump is like, no, no, we're doing this and you're going to sit there and you're going to take it.
And, you know, it does look like that's what's going to go down.
I think that there'll be even more escalation.
I don't think we're going to do anything or they're going to do anything about it.
I think it's going to get worse and worse.
But getting into that war crime, after you pull up this thread, we have now escalated.
Not only big time.
Not only are we hitting these boats and killing everyone on them, when we don't kill everyone on the boat, we have special forces.
We have the SEAL teams pull up.
We have them double tap the people that are still alive.
That's called Ors de Combat.
Those people are no longer combatants.
Those people need to be taken as prisoners of war for interrogation purposes.
And killing them is a fucking war crime.
And you cannot do it.
And you cannot spin it.
And you cannot sell it.
You cannot make it this great thing.
You cannot make this boomer-American tough thing.
This is wrong.
And beyond it being wrong and beyond any of that, if you're pro-Trump and you wanted the Trump administration to go on and him to win another term and to stay in office for a thousand years, these are impeachable offenses.
These are war crimes.
These are things that he could be brought up at The Hague for.
I know I have audience members who are going, oh, well, I love Trump and that's criticism.
And we don't do that here.
You know, he's making some bad decisions.
He's making some good ones.
No, he's damning the entire movement that he wrote in on by doing stuff like this.
And it's further showing other nations across the world that we are not to be trusted and that we are not to be dealt with.
Well said, like if the Russians, right?
If the Russians rolled up on the Ukrainians and let's just say the Ukrainians had a boat in a lake or something, and they hit the boat and there were survivors, and the Russians rolled up and they shot those people in the head.
War crime, war crime, international hag, get Putin.
The president saying the F-word makes it cool, right?
And this is just, it's just the attitude getting into all of this that I have problems with.
Donald J. Trump, to all airlines, pilots, drug dealers, and human traffickers, please consider the airspace above and surrounding Venezuela to be closed in its entirety.
Thank you for your attention to this matter, President DJT.
Okay, so what it really is, what drives that is federal government, FAA.
Trump actually can dictate what the FAA does to a certain degree and can declare the FAA to like declare no fly zones.
So he can control American flights, like Delta, all of that stuff.
And with that being said, other people typically follow the United States and what they're doing because, in general, after a certain amount of time, they know they don't want to be caught in the crossfire if something were to happen.
This is typically when the United States does something like this in previous conflicts, like you can see in in 1983, they restricted before Grenada, uh, Panama 1989.
We also did the same thing.
Libya 2011.
We also did another thing, uh, in Iraq.
So you can see, like the, the planes literally don't fly around these regions and it normally.
It's not always guaranteed, but typically this is what the United States does prior to actually doing a strategic strike of some sort within a country.
And that's what's scary about this whole thing, right?
You were saying it's further off and it may be next year.
You may be right, because the month is a very short time.
It's also very long time in politics, but it's also very short and you know it's christmas.
Trump could decide that he wants what if he does it on christmas.
Yes, I had to do.
Santa Claus came down the chimney and he told me, Donald, i'm not giving you a present.
Your president is Venezuela.
I said i'd really give Venezuela to left me said yes, it's true, people are saying it, you don't.
Yeah, I mean all right.
So we've talked about this, we've done a little exposition and everyone's aware of the current military buildup down there.
It's, it's unavoidable and, as I talked about just now, i've been predicting the war imminently.
Tim has been a little further out, but them pulling the airspace really shows how close we are to the actual conflict.
Right, and getting into the further escalation on these strikes on the boats.
I want to read from this tweet here and then we're going to read from the Washington POST article.
Of course they're cheap bastards and i'm an even cheaper bastard and they wanted me to pay 99 cents to uh read the article.
Uh that uh, you hell.
No uh, it's only nine minutes a long walk off a short cliff.
Washington POST.
I found someone that pirated it, so i'll read it off x.
Thank you very much.
Pete Hegsef committed a war crime and then doubled down.
He instructed the military to murder civilians at sea and when there were injured victims, he gave the order to kill them all.
Oh, surviving victims were brutally dismembered at sea by U.s missiles.
Hegseth order on first Caribbean boat strike.
Officials say killed them all.
As two men clung to a stricken, burning ship targeted by SEAL team SIX, the joint special operations commander followed the defense secretary's order to leave no survivors.
Defense secretary Pete Hegsef gave a verbal directive.
According to two people with direct knowledge of the operation, the order was to kill everybody.
One of them said a missile screamed off the Trinidad coast, striking the vessel, igniting a blaze from bow to stern.
For minutes commanders watched the boat burning on a live drone feed.
As the smoke cleared they got a jolt.
Two survivors were clinging to the smoldering wreck.
Oh, we left people alive, we got to kill them.
Now, like this is the attitude of our, of our people the, the moral American military.
It's just, it's kill murder, death.
That that's what it represents.
It's what it's really always represented for the past 40, 50 years.
The special operations commander overseeing the september 2nd attack, the opening salvo in the Trump administration's war on suspected drug traffickers in the western Hemisphere, ordered a second strike Strike to comply with Hegset's instructions to kill Everybody.
Two people familiar with the matter said the two men were blown apart in the water.
And, you know, hey, they don't matter, right?
It's just some people, unidentified people.
We don't know who they were.
We don't know if they were traffickers or fishermen or whatever.
They're dead.
But hey, United States, Pete Hegseth, he was on Fox News.
Trump was on reality TV and they're president and in the cabinet.
And because of this, the world was sickened by it.
There were other things where Germans did similar things to our sailors in the water.
In fact, as many German submariners were arrested, tried, and executed for that crime.
So in 1949, I believe the Geneva Conventions made it illegal to when a ship is sunk and people are in the water, they are automatically by law rendered what is called hors du combé.
That's a French term.
Marine Corps, we say hors de combat because we don't know how to speak French, but it means you're out of the fight.
You are literally out of the fight and you are required to rescue them.
They are out of the fight.
You are required to rescue them, not kill them.
And if you seek to kill them, you are in violation, a grave breach of the Geneva Conventions, not just the 1949 Geneva Convention, but the 1977 additional protocols.
In 1996, the United States Congress passed a law, the War Crimes Act, I believe it's called, that basically says, if you do this, if you violate the Geneva Convention, a grave breach, you shall be arrested, tried, and if found guilty, sentenced to life imprisonment or executed.
Pete Hegseth is a war criminal.
There is no if, and, or, but.
There is no pardoning.
There is nothing.
He's a war criminal, but not just him.
This is where Mark Kelly and the seditious six come in.
And really quick, so we've talked about this, right?
Now, I just want to give a little exposition, and this is why it's so great because sometimes there'll be a topic Tim knows everything about.
I don't really know a lot about, but I have enough context where we can have the discussion, and then vice versa.
This is one of those times where I explain to you: hey, this is really big in the right wing right now.
The seditious six talk of, hey, these people coming out and saying to the military, defy Trump's orders, mostly in the context of dealing with the ICE raids and the National Guard, but also in the context of Venezuela, right?
And this is something, and I'll give commentary right here, and this is going to be real spicy.
This is something I've seen my dad talk about on and on and on and on in the Podesta plan and all of it, and how it's the leftist uprising and how they're trying to call a revolution, take over the country, XYZ.
That is a talking point that supports the Trump administration.
That is what that talking point is.
It supports the Trump administration.
It is basically saying, hey, there is no case for the president could give an unlawful order because our president would never give an unlawful order because he is so awesome.
I've seen the right wing in general and I've seen my dad make that argument as well.
When in reality, this is the empire, this is the American empire taking a military action unlawfully in another country that we haven't declared war against.
And then our president and his cabinet member, his Secretary of Defense, Secretary of War, White App, Secretary of War, War Crimes, Pete Hegsteth, he's out there violating the Geneva Convention.
Well, I mean, we saw the grotesque attacks that Ukraine was allowed to commit under Biden.
We saw the withdrawal from Afghanistan and we saw the outrage from the American public at these perceived war crimes, at these perceived issues of unethical conduct.
And then you see Trump literally doing the exact same thing.
I said something about, he said something about, like, not to get off in the weeds.
He said something about like, uh, somebody made a post about like saying commitments, like we're getting trillion, $18 trillion worth of commitments from these countries.
And I just made the statement.
I'm like, hey, commitments is not the same thing as money actually coming in.
And I was on just because it's a commitment, all they'll have to do is just stonewall Trump to get out of the president and then basically say, well, what happened?
Well, we were negotiating over the T's and C's for a very long time and never happened.
And you're like, you wouldn't vote for Kamala, right?
And like, that's, that's not the problem.
Like, that, that, that's not, that's not what we're discussing here.
We're discussing the performance of the person that won and is supposed to do the job because the person that won is not doing the job.
And in fact, it's not even a zero.
It's a negative score because they're committing war crimes.
They're committing espionage.
They're committing fraud, these crypto scams.
If you can look at this and you can hold this administration up as like the Avengers or the new American heroes, I don't, I don't think there's hope for you because I think what this is really shown to everyone because everyone's so excited about Trump is that all these people are the same.
They're all the same.
And I want to go to some clips now.
I want to show some evidence of this.
I want to show these people being who they are, which is the same smarmy TV, kind of petite bourgeois, really not even high-level people, but the scammers that got into the White House.
And these are the people, like, not Hegseth necessarily, because Hegseth was in the military, but this is like the softest hand thing you can ever imagine in the Washington Post about kill everybody phrases on anonymous sources, not based in anything, not based in any truth.
It's a machine that runs by itself and the machine needs fuel and it's decided it's going to go to war again.
I just, I don't like how it's posed like they're real, like you talk about fog of war, you're talking about it like you're the captain of the ship when in fact you're not the captain of the ship.
You're like a plank on the ship, right?
Like you're just a part of the machine, right?
So these people, they talk about the grand decisions that they're forced to make at XYZ.
And I think that that is true on the tactical level, like one decision after another.
But to act like there is any element of grand strategy to any of this, like Trump and Pete Hegsteth, they're in a room and they've got like they've got the globe here and they're like poor, like, you know, like they're like going over the planet.
At the end of the day, guys, these guys, we give them authority.
We vote for them.
But at the end of the day, they have the same flaws that we have fundamentally as humans.
We have cognitive biases that happen.
We have other types of biases that cause you to make decisions that are not necessarily in the best interest of like whatever is supposed to be made there objectively.
They are susceptible to emotions.
It's the same thing I was telling you earlier at Camp David when they met immediately after the strike.
Imagine how much emotion Bush and all these people are going in to make a response.
And one guy goes in there, plants the seed of we need to go invade this place.
I can't just take the brush and just paint it and just say, like, every single person that's either in this administration is complicit in whatever is happening.
I'm saying there's nuances.
There are gray areas to this in which we don't fundamentally know what goes through a specific person's head in that very moment.
I believe there are war hawks, people who are very bad that go in there, try to push an agenda and all those things.
And there are people that are susceptible that are in positions of power that just go with the flow of whatever and get influenced very easily.
I think they're all, I think they're all complicit.
A lia omission, you know, like we see a lot of this in the modern environment, right?
And you could say, oh, the press secretary, like, what does she have any responsibility?
But you look at how people treated the press secretaries under Biden, basically treating them as like a state propagandist, referring to it as like a North Korean-level thing.
You look at Korean John Pierre and Jin Saki before.
Now we have the same thing where the lies are on the same level, but okay.
It's about the pressure that you receive from the echo chamber of whatever system that you are in.
You and I both said there's a very high likelihood they said, all right, here, here, here's your here's your list of things that we have on you, push it forward.
I'm making the argument that the tactical decisions, I'm sure that's impacted by the people's emotions and they get excited, they get angry, they get sad, whatever, and they make the call.
The grand strategy has already been set, which is why I look at it and I look at the absurd idea of we're winning.
I mean, have you seen this?
I've seen this.
We're winning.
America is back.
America is doing great.
I just, I want to live in a world where we can acknowledge reality and say, hey, our military fucked things up for everybody.
Because these people are afraid the moment you show any level of weakness, you allow the enemy, quote unquote, like a Russia or a China or some of these other people to take that and allow them to win.
And that's why we're going to fall off into the fucking sea, man.
That's why it's going to happen because there's always that's, you know what?
And this is, this is why we do the show together.
Very high-level observation from Tim, thinking about how the various power factions that all war domestically together in the United States keep not only the public, but also themselves engaged in this psychotic process of hyping up the enemy.
It's the same reason why we can't leave certain regions of the Middle East alone because we're afraid that if we don't do it, somebody else will and they will take that resource and they'll become.
So they're like, you know what?
Might as well go and be the bully first.
That way somebody else doesn't have the advantage and they're more powerful than us.
So China is complicit in the same type of psychological warfare, bad things.
Russia's also been guilty of the same thing going into the Middle East because they're competing with the United States for resource extraction.
But here's the thing.
You had a bunch of people back in the day and you were saying like, oh, well, the ball's already basically rolling down the hill and the agenda has been set as a whole.
And it's very hard to turn the wheel without sacrificing something.
That's really what it comes down to it is like, you don't want to be the guy who allows like China to become the number one in the world and have your face stamped on top of it.
That's why we got to put all the money in AI is because, hey, we got to be at war with China.
And you look at it and that's why we do this show.
That's why we do the gray area.
We break down all of these systems because without knowledge of the systems and without the context of these events, it is that real Mad Max world of we all just fight each other, but there is a group profiting off of all.
China will do the same things where they have, you know, Xi Jinping in there and he's basically pushing the same agenda to be like, well, we can't allow America to win.
And, you know, that global cooperation we talk about.
What if everybody just one day decided to put the egos aside and just say, okay, what is the net positive for society?
Let's just do that regardless of whatever we might have to lose or sacrifice.
So I'm allowed to be upset and I'm allowed to say these things.
We have America has lost the right to dictate morality to the world.
And this is my main issue with what's going on right now.
These other countries that have offered like the Russians to cooperate with us, we say no, not because of a resource calculation, thinking we could do it ourselves.
We say no because we say, we are good and you are bad.
We're grateful to have the president's support because his vision for this Department of Defense is to bring it back to its core capacity.
I'm proud to be here.
And as long as Donald Trump wants me in this fight, I'm going to be standing right here in this fight, fighting to bring our Pentagon back to what it needs to be.
And just to give some background on what he's talking about, look, Pentagon is like in all these government institutions, what they do and why the bag of bolts is 90,000 is because America does this thing where they don't really have everything run through the federal government.
They do a bidding process where they give contracts away to private institutions.
Those private institutions are regular Joe Schmoe's business guys who can jack up the price of something.
Like during Afghanistan, there was a guy who was charging like $20,000 per meal for like he made $5 billion because he got awarded a contract and then they processed him.
Oh, we're going to do a beautiful deep dive on who made money during that during that war.
But in general, when we're at war with somebody, the normal process is like you go and you bid for that, and normally you take the lowest amount.
When you're in war, they have this thing where they like do away with the bidding process and they just go with like whoever they want.
And then that guy really can set prices however he wants.
And it's just a broken system.
But like Rex is saying, just because you presented as something going bad and like it's something that needs to be fixed, just come up here.
And I'm not like trying to do a whole conspiracy with this whole thing.
It could be two things.
It could be legitimately like spur of the moment, like they just made the call and they were like, we don't really care.
And this is just standing standard operating procedure.
But this is the one that was like broadcast that people found out about where we, there's plenty of situations where this has been ongoing and we've been killing people like this for a very long time.
The other is because the real play, and I'm like, it's very clear as day at this point.
The play is for the oil because we've already done away with the logic of why the drugs will never be the reason.
And at the end of the day, if they know what the main reason and what they're going to go and do is surgical strike, then they don't really care about like following the breadcrumbs and putting all the resources to do something that they don't really care about at the end of the day.
They just want to go for just like you said, posturing.
I'm sure he was like, yeah, just fuck them people.
Just kill them.
Like shit.
Like, I don't care.
And like, he doesn't, he may.
There's no standard operating procedure that he probably At some point during his military career, he learned that what he does now or what he just did is a war crime.
I'm sure at some point that education was there, but who knows if he absorbed it?
He may have been vaping in class, you know, like literally, right?
So we can chalk it up to incompetence as well as malevolence.
I think equally, because we're looking at his system now, it's so broken.
The people that were willing to game it the most are now in power and they just don't know how to do anything.
And you look at Biden, you say, hey, they don't know how to do anything.
They wasted all the money.
They brought all the people in, you name it.
I think they knew what they were doing just fine.
I think they executed a targeted program.
If you look at Biden, even some of the stuff Biden was doing in Ukraine, we've given weapons to the Ukrainians that Biden wouldn't even give to the Ukrainians.
So you look at it from a perspective of, hey, we had this old administration where the guy basically was corpse president, we can at Bernie's, and his admin staff and his cabinet and the people that were appointed were basically running the thing.
You could say they ran it badly or whatever, but they were running it.
We have people in now that don't even know what their jobs are.
Because if you're the Secretary of Defense, you should know what a fucking war crime is.
And then the boomer comes out and then they fucking shoot them with the economic military gun and they take their essence.
Like they're hunting smurfs, basically.
The boomers are smurfs and the government's gargamel in my analogy here.
But we got into this.
We covered this tonight.
You were very passionate about what you were covering because you had a data-driven informational point that you were trying to make that, you know, just people don't realize and they're getting rage baited on these various topics related to demographics.
My point is very emotional.
How do we allow this?
How do we still back this and support this on prominent conservative media and news channels?
This is everything that I was raised to not support.
I was raised to be anti-war.
I was raised to oppose military strikes.
I remember when I found out as a kid about Obama drone striking people and I was like, man, that ain't evil.
So getting back to the ideological consistency thing that we talked about with the abortion issue and being pro-life in my perspective, I cannot hold the values that made me vote for Donald Trump make me not support Donald Trump now.
And maybe that's actually part of the macro issue that we have with the United States in general.
I think we haven't established the Constitution was the first attempt at trying to establish like that North Star of competent moral values and compasses that everybody should abide to regardless of party lines.
But somewhere along the way, we've got blurred with, you know, expansions of different powers and now we don't need to do the War Powers Act anymore.
And, you know, president can basically act as a mini king to do whatever he wants, not just Trump, just in general.
Bush had done the same thing.
Clinton has done the same thing where you just go and do a strategical strike, incite something, and then we go to war of some sort because now we've kind of false flags.
And I'm, I'm, dude, I was guilty of it through and through.
I literally lived in New York.
I was brainwashed with the whole liberal COVID Democrat slut shame you for not wearing a mask.
How dare you?
You're going to go kill grandma.
Like I've lived through that psyop that happened during that time period.
Now that I've come to an equilibrium after literally thinking that Trump was the solution and not having it, all my solution is that I know what to do is just give people a macro level argument.
You're going to hear me say that a million times.
What's the macro level?
What's the bigger argument?
What's the fourth order thinking of this thing?
What's really happening here?
And not enough shows are doing this.
And that's what's pissing me off in the mainstream media.
I go watch Fuentes, phenomenal speaker, very funny, cool dude, but he doesn't.
I know you're going to, you're, I know you're looking at me, but like, I see the Groyper in him sometimes come out to where he just has to like rage bait somebody and he's like, oh, you remember, did you ever remember that?
I see it as someone where you can argue with his opinion.
You can say his opinion is flawed.
He's actually saying what he believes.
And I think a lot of the people, Nick Grouper, I think a lot of the people right now, especially people like my father and others, I think that they're making willful compromises to be okay with what's going on.
And I don't see Nick doing that, which is why I think Nick Fuentes is a hero.
Yeah, let me let me talk about this for a second because I totally agree with that point.
And I think you touched on the absolute key at the end is that people don't actually propose solutions.
And I myself am intensely critical, but I do propose solutions for these things that I talk about.
I talk about ending the military engagement, ending, you know, the debt slavery, ending the inflation by doing actionable things that I've talked about and discussed here.
But my, my problem with it all is that we're putting these boxes.
We're putting this left-wing box, we're putting this right-wing box.
And we're told, this is your party.
This is your group.
These are the values that you sign up to support.
And there are only two camps and you must fight each other.
I look at you and I look at you as someone with a very unique political perspective.
You were someone that was liberal, Democrat, kind of in that ethos in that area, kind of in that culture.
And then you're someone that broke with that due to, you know, the cognitive dissonance of being like, hey, you're lying to me.
What I'm trying to get across here, the point I'm trying to make is my views from then being kind of like Trump loving young Republican dude in a suit.
I was literally one of those dudes in the suit.
Like that's who I was.
Now going into a place where I have left-wing politics, like I believe in these things like universal healthcare.
I believe in childcare.
I believe that there shouldn't be these insurance companies that are middlemen and scam off people.
I'm actually anti-war.
And I look at these positions and I look at them and I say, hey, these actually back up the core identity of what all my positions were before, being pro-life, being pro-America, being pro-freedom.
Why is this considered left-wing and this considered right-wing?
It's really all just, we take stuff and we categorize it.
Instead of being good or bad, we tilt it on some scale that really means nothing.
I just, all I'm saying at the end of the day, I beg for anybody who's sitting here watching this show tonight, as you're going around and consuming media, like please, please, please.
I'm not expecting you to do like what I do and spend hours on like these things.
And like I nerd out about some of this stuff.
I do this because I love you guys and I and I spend the time so that you guys don't have to do it for one.
But if there is a certain thing that sounds like pretty outlandish and the keyword of the month of the year is rage bait, most times it's going to probably be leaning towards that.
And you know, X's algorithm, Elon is talking about this now.
They're going to start adjusting the algorithm to start sifting through some of this rage bait content.
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Sometimes he contributes to this stuff without like really diving into the specifics.
Like there are some dark sides of society that he, you know, you just got to take that.
That's the way that it is.
But I'm just saying, like, look, you go watch your favorite media, whether you guys watch us, whether you watch his dad, whether you watch, you know, Fuentes.
I think why they're doing that is because it's like in today's society, that is like the fastest way to grow.
Like, I'm not kidding.
People love negativity, right?
Like, that's the humans' natural abilities.
Like, we gravitate towards negativity.
So if you can say things that incite a little bit where you like, you have somebody say like some really triggering things, but then like also it's like something for you to rally behind.
It is the quickest way for you to build that cult following.
And I would rather spend a whole like five years growing super slow, speaking my truth about these things and just continuing to like give the truth to like, even if it's a small audience of 500 people.
Right.
I would rather do that.
Than to just jump on one of these bandwagon trains, because I was thinking about like, what do I do for my own content?
Dude, I could literally be the black guy, the one very few like black guys, that the ones that lean super conservative.
Yeah, go out there, say a bunch of about black people, praise the white man, do all these things and like be like a mega Candace Owen, like 5.0, like where I just like not even not even Candace Owens, like like they they, I could supersede her exactly.
I'm thinking of you as kind of like a black misfit patriot in this scenario.
Like misfit patriot is this guy and he's notorious for just being like a bootlicking.
Like I love the U.s government and like hey, I mean you're black, probably get paid more to do it, because you're appealing to the minority group they're trying to target.
It's targeting.
Yes, he'd be able to get paid, because the specific opportunity that you have to target that demographic they're going after.
It's predatory.
So we don't do that here.
This is not a predatory show.
This is, in fact, a show where we self-fund and self-support ourselves.
Let me tell you, putting the studio together I know it's not the most impressive thing in the world, but it's still cheap.
The internet bills, the cameras, the lights, the studio, the setup, all of it.
It wasn't cheap, guys.
And going forward, going into getting better guests, going into actually building news sites, going into building all this stuff we want to do in the future.
There's one way that we do that and you see it because it's in the header.
It's in the top of the live Primal core, go primalcore.com.
I've been involved with supplements for a decade.
I've been doing this since I was like 11, 12 years old.
Let me tell you right now, I am prouder of this brand than any other brand that i've ever been a part of, and that includes INFO WARS LIFE.
Why?
Because we did it right from day one and we're passing the savings on to you.
Let me tell you right now, we started with two products, Ultimate Ashwagandha and Elemental Drive.
Why did we do this?
Because we wanted the most effective combination stack and solo stack that people getting into supplements knew hadn't tried them before, could try and just immediately experience radical benefits.
Tim, you were someone that didn't have their first drink until your early 20s.
You were someone that's always been, or still are, someone super cautious about everything you put in your body.
Yeah, I mean ultimately, when it comes to anything substance wise, i'm not a guy who normally would go and just take supplements, and it was because of things that i've had heard bad, bad in the industry and some of these synthetic stuff that goes on.
But when we went ahead and did something like this, I truly believed in something like this, because the brand was built around something like, if people have been doing it for thousands of years right, it still has to work today.
None of the stuff that's in any of the ingredients and i'm taking these currently because we just got our shipments in i'm super excited that we have everything in people who pre-ordered.
This stuff is coming to you guys already been shipped.
Yeah, because at the end of the day the doctor gives you a bunch of bullshit that like half the stuff gives you some chronic thing that you need to go take crazy And side effects, and people like will go and take the thing on the, on the, they'll go and take the drug that, like the guy speaks really fast.
You get asphyxiation and you get you you could die of suicide and all this other different stuff that you could see on the screen and goes by really fast.
But then these things like Ashwagandha, 3000 years ago, these people were using this.
I'm just saying we didn't have any support from a big conglomerate to help us create something like this.
This came from our brain, our ability to have one person help us with design work.
Right.
And like, I was literally the one that helped do the website, like the packaging.
You knew where to get it from.
Like we literally like assembled this together from our own sweat and bloods and put all of our effort.
It took us months to build something like this because we knew we wanted to make sure that there was no outside force to influence what went into these products.
From 2021 to 2023, I met with some of the biggest manufacturers in the country.
And I had always kind of understood the industry, but I didn't understand how much of a scam it was until then.
I met with these old, rich boomers that had these trademarked ingredients that they'd paid a college 100 grand to do a study on.
And these people are literally drooling old, like wizard kings who have a booklet for $15 a unit price supplements.
They're trying to sell people.
And most people starting these brands, that's why they have $50, $60, $70 supplement blends compared to what we have, which is like a $30 product with top of that, that stack.
We're essentially able to offer a higher potency, higher quality on both accounts versus, you know, a trademarked or, you know, just something that someone paid a boomer to make.
We actually made this with our ingenuity being young people and understanding the modern supplement market.
So instead of paying for six trademarked ingredients that don't really do anything, we can make all these crazy claims.
We said, hey, what is the strongest thing we can sell?
What's the top adaptogen?
What's the thing people know?
What's the thing people love?
Oshwagandha.
All you need to know lowers your stress levels, lowers your cortisol hormone.
You have neurons in your brain that produce this thing called CRH, which then produces this thing called ACRH, which then produces cortisol downstream.
People don't know this about that process.
The same steroidogenesis that's used to make cortisol, because cortisol is a steroid hormone, is also used to make testosterone.
So when you take this, it lowers your cortisol.
And then that increased fuel can also go towards making testosterone.
But wait, there's more.
That's why we don't just have one product.
That's why we have two.
That's why we have them bundled together for years.
I have worked on various formulas that incorporate some sort of a multi-mineral element to them.
Power plant, for example, one of the ones from Alex Jones store that I gave to you or that I gave to you that has that quality.
This is that on steroids.
This is one, two, three, four, five, six different vitamins and minerals that are absolutely essential to testosterone, free testosterone, and nootropic support.
So, male, female, anybody, you name it, you need one or both of these products.
I would suggest you get both.
I would suggest you get the bundle, but let me just read to you what's in the multi-mineral.
Zinc as zinc picolinate, 25 milligrams.
That's the most absorbable form.
Boron as boron citrate raises free testosterone, just like zinc.
Zinc also raises total testosterone, eight milligrams.
Selenium, responsible for the synthesis of glutathione, master antioxidant in your body, also massively implicated in fertility studies.
You talked about the fertility rates before.
This is huge for that.
Copper to balance out the zinc.
A lot of people, I've seen this meme.
I've seen this story.
People go, I'm taking zinc, so I'm going to have huge loads.
This is what this is what people say.
I've seen it on Twitter.
It's all over the place.
Look, you take 50 milligrams of zinc for a month, you're going to be copper deficient.
You're going to encounter massive issues.
This is the only formula on the market that I have seen today.
I could be wrong, but as of this moment, as of today, saying this now, this is the only male mineral formula that addresses all these concerns.
And it's not only perfect for men, but it's perfect for unisex.
Anyone and everyone that wants to try it, I highly suggest try core mineral or elemental drive.
I highly suggest you try ultimate ashwagandha, and I highly suggest you pair them together.
Now, I've only been taking them together for four days.
And let me tell you, I'm already experiencing some benefits, some nootropic benefits, some stress benefits.
I'm feeling better in the morning.
Let me just leave it at that.
Tim, are you excited to really be on this long term?
Like at the end of the day, I'm not, I'm, I'm, we're already running our own businesses right now.
This is this is literally purely for the love of the game and for you guys to get a better show and a better quality at the end of the day, as well as getting benefits for your body, because I know I'm deficient in a lot of stuff.
And I'm sure there's a lot of people out there that are also deficient in a lot of stuff.
And sometimes those deficiencies that you're talking about, simply taking something that's in these simple forms that you can take daily every morning allows you to actually compensate and you can start feeling those benefits because that's all you want to do.
I took two ashwagandha pills and I took one elemental drive pill this morning on an empty stomach, just with some water, zero issue, zero stress on the gut, zero, you know, instability, just total absorption, total focus.
I noticed it about an hour in, especially from the ashwagandha.
I'm telling you, if you haven't tried ashwagandha before, Nick Fuentez takes ashwagandha.
Indeed, we got a lot of fascinating topics coming up.
And, you know, just guest appearance-wise, we're working on getting new better guests for the Sunday show.
I mean, the guests we've already had were incredible.
We really want to do some debate streams.
I want to do some solo shows going forward.
There's so much to be excited about going on at the gray area right now.
And again, I'm just like, I'm just going to do it nonstop because I like to do it.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you for being the audience.
Thank you for being the people that are actually supporting the show.
And like we said, ad nauseum, you don't have to be here.
You chose to be here.
And like, we're choosing to be here with you.
Ultimately, if you weren't here, we'd just be two dudes looking at a camera, right?
Pretty much.
You're the person that makes this the show, whoever watches this.
So I tell you right now, if you like the show, not even telling you to buy the product, just subscribe.
Just follow us.
Follow Tim on X. If you're not going to buy the supplement because it's 29 bucks or whatever with the discount, at least follow Truism Tim on X. Come on.
Can you give us a win?
Can you give us a win, please?
So whether you buy the supplements, whether you like, follow, and subscribe, whether you retweet anything and everything you do to support the gray area is something that truly touches our hearts because this is something that we truly care about.
And like we can sign off after this.
I know you probably have one final point you want to make.
Just thank you to the audience.
And I can't believe we have the physical product here.
And I usually with supplement process and I've got numerous sites where I've sold supplements over the years, which is why like I can really speak on this.
My process usually is very point and shoot.
And Tim is someone that I've really seen how much Tim likes to refine processes and to make things efficient and to just make things the best.
And with this product and with the tweaking we did, especially to the elemental drive formula, Ashwagandha is just amazing on its own.
And it's all going to be around that same concept: ancient remedies for modern life.
You're going to see we're going to be bringing back time tested things over and over again for you guys to get the same minerals that we are trying to support in your system.
I think we'll get more chances to do stuff like that.
And this is why ultimately, and just going to keep making the pitch again and again, this is why it's important to support the show.
Because if we're able to actually not just be in my house in this room, if we're able to have someone switch in, we're able to bring in a live guest, have somewhere for them to actually sit, have more cameras for them, actually have the material and equipment to build this show out.
Look, when I tell you, I'm literally the new guy in town.
I could have never imagined in a million years that we would have the opportunity, that you would have the opportunity to host and I'd be able to co-host on a show that massive and be able to actually speak our truth without anyone censoring us.
And that's because you guys were there from the beginning, gave me the drive, gave him the drive just to keep being better and better and better and better to the point where like they trusted us at least to not ruin, you know, and shit to bed, you know, and I thought it was a great show.
It literally gives me purpose right now is that I'm actually doing something and at least reaching somebody with the information of what I've been in my mind with for years and not been able to actually express.
And you know, for a lot of people, it's not about that.
For a lot of people, it is about making the money.
For a lot of people, it is about having the image.
For us, it's about finding a community of people that are actually interested in addressing and solving and figuring out the root causes of all these problems that we agree on.
That's what we have fun here on.
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Yeah, I could give two shits about the money, man.