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Nov. 24, 2025 - Gray Area - Rex Jones & Tim Tompkins
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Gray Area LIVE #23: Primal Core Launch! MTG TO Resign? News Blitz!
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rex jones
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tim tompkins
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donald j trump
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rex jones
A little teaser for you guys, you know, a little double trouble intro to the show tonight.
This is show 23 of Gray Area Live.
I'm Rex Jones with Tim here, Tim Tompkins.
unidentified
How are we doing, guys?
rex jones
Yeah, how are y'all doing tonight?
And we're going to check in with the comments here in a section.
It's called a section.
unidentified
What?
tim tompkins
It's pulled up.
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
tim tompkins
There you go.
rex jones
Perfect.
Well, guys, we're going to pull up the comments in a second, which is what I was trying to say where I stopped figuring it out there for a second.
We're going to see what you guys have to say, but we've got a fun show.
You know, Tim came here today and he's like, man, you know what?
I haven't really looked at the news in a few days.
And I was like, oh, man, like, there's a lot that's gone on.
tim tompkins
I'm like Jordan with the flu tonight, guys.
Yeah, you've been a little under the weather.
Yeah.
Mind me if I'm a little bit quiet today, but I'm still going to keep my energy up as much as possible.
Show must go on.
rex jones
And you've been feeling better, but you got like COVID-20, right?
unidentified
Oh, man.
tim tompkins
You know, it just seems like ever since I got the vaccine, I got more and more sick is a problem.
It's been a minute since I've been sick, luckily, but right as soon as I had the mask man in it, I got sick every single month.
So I've been sick since Thursday, guys.
That's why we didn't film.
I woke up.
I was like, ooh, I know what's coming.
So good to have you guys on tonight, at least, though.
Tonight, we won't be doing a guest segment or a prepared one.
I'm not in the condition to do a full prepared segment.
It would be like absolutely buns.
So we'll save it for the next one.
rex jones
It's all good because I've got a prepared segment of my very own.
And we're going to be talking about supplements tonight.
But very specifically, we're launching a new brand and things are available for pre-order right now.
It's called Primal Core.
So we have it in the header now.
Then you go check out Primal Core, goprimalcore.com.
And there are the highest quality blends and then single ingredient form could put together.
And I'm really proud of this.
Tim is really, really proud of, you know, both the deal that we're giving you because it's a great price for a great product, but we're also very happy about, you know, we think people are going to see huge results from this.
tim tompkins
Yeah, they are.
Look, with this product, guys, and this brand, we didn't take any outside help.
We built this between us and our immediate people, and we built everything from the ground up.
We didn't pay for outside people.
We just basically slaved away to build the best product possible that wasn't associated with anybody.
And that was the biggest thing for Rex and I was just like, we want to do something that's of high value.
rex jones
And I know we have people in here, and I don't want to just try to get you informed or sell you on this immediately.
We do have news and stuff to go through, but I just want to break this down really quick for you.
So I've been selling supplements for basically my entire life that I've been conscious, like really for the past decade.
And during that process, I've seen what's successful, what's not successful, what people like, what people don't like.
But more importantly, I've met the big manufacturers across the country.
I've talked to them.
I've seen their quotes.
I've seen the deals and kind of scams they try to run on people.
Basically, when you talk about nutritional supplements, you'll have a guy that has some money and he wants to start a brand.
And that guy, not knowing anything about the industry, will find one of these old boomers that has all these formulas and stuff under trademark.
And they've gotten these trademarks by paying a college, you know, 50, 100 grand to do a study.
And they'll sell that guy that's trying to start that company that doesn't know anything about it on buying a product at like 10, 12.
I've seen $20 a bottle, folks.
unidentified
Damn.
rex jones
For like normal stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
Now, what stuff that would cost them like cents or pennies.
rex jones
What makes us different and how we cut out the middleman, how we cut out the boomer, so to speak.
And in my experience, they are boomers, folks.
How we do that is, well, you know, I'm partnered with the manufacturer.
I'm already selling certain, you know, supplement and supplementalized products, right?
We wanted to do something purely focused on the, you know, time and time-tested, true, not high-risk, really safe, really high-quality formulas, getting back to the basics of nutraceuticals.
And that's how we did Primal Core.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
It's approachable for men, women.
It's approachable for all demographics, like young adult, old, you name it.
And when you look at the formulas, you're going to say, wow, this is really performance-based.
And this seems to be geared towards men.
It's geared towards everyone.
And if you do the research on these ingredients, what you're going to find is by doing our own manufacturing here local in Texas, by cutting out that middleman, we're able to offer you phenomenal prices and phenomenal sourcing on these ingredients.
So I'm really excited about that.
tim tompkins
I am too, Man, the thing about me is, you know, how I'm very conscious about what I put in my body.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
And I never take anything as far as like supplements.
I don't take anything that's like performance enhancers.
So when I started this brand, when did you have your first drink?
23.
unidentified
Wow.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
It was, it's, it, I didn't drink for the longest, even though I was in college around, I was DD.
rex jones
Pays attention to his health, this guy.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
So for me, um, I was like, you know what?
I had a very, you, you got me to take power plant and I was, and it took you a good minute to like actually convince me to take it.
Because of the fact that like, I just see so many of these like artificial enhancements and all the other like bullshit that they just put in there that it's natural and people have been doing this for thousands of years.
rex jones
Yeah, in fact, the synthetic stuff that we're given, we're told oh, it's amazing.
It's incredible.
Everyone is like 400 pounds and has diabetes and right, is dying.
tim tompkins
And that was one of the non-negotiables for me, too was like look, if we're gonna do something and i'm gonna take these products as well it needs to be something that I would take, something that has existed for generations, that has already been tested by millions of people before me, just like Ashwagandha is one of our products right, been around for thousands of years.
That way, I know i'm not the guinea pig, because after I got the Covet shot, I don't even know what's going to happen to me.
rex jones
You're unhappy, 25 years, you're.
You're a little bit upset.
tim tompkins
I am very upset.
So you know that that's my standpoint on it, but we will get into more of that later.
rex jones
Yes, we're going to cover that later.
Just wanted to give you all a quick intro and if you want to check out the site, it's Goprimalcore.com.
And just really quick, before we start our news presentation for tonight, i'm going to go ahead and uh, show you guys the website here so you can check this out here.
Oh look, isn't that nice?
tim tompkins
Add to stage.
rex jones
Oh, isn't that nice.
tim tompkins
I fail again, that was on me.
rex jones
All right, we're gonna cut back to the main screen.
Um, all right, how do I do it?
I got you a little technical difficulties there guys, but the point is we love it so much, we're super excited to show it to you and we think you're really going to be happy with it.
I mean, check this out guys, isn't that clean?
tim tompkins
Built this whole thing.
rex jones
Guys, built this whole thing.
We got it ready for y'all and we really have phenomenal deals on there, especially for the email list and whatnot.
So you're definitely going to want to check this out and get involved with it if you're interested.
But we're going to circle back to that.
We're going to get into the news now.
Have you seen Trump going to the White House and meeting with Mom?
tim tompkins
Dunno, I did catch this video.
It was very awkward for me to watch.
Right, it's like two people you could see really hate each other, but they have to smile for the cameras and they're like I, I see it the other way.
I, I thought you, I think they're playing politics.
rex jones
Well, I agree with you, but I, I actually I found it very charming.
Trump's like you know, this is all bullshit.
Like i'm on the list.
You want something?
That is too.
donald j trump
It's okay.
rex jones
Um, Donny's just doing, he's cheesing and what he always does.
tim tompkins
A reporter asked that question.
He's like, go ahead, you can say it.
Right, you know you believe that about me, right?
Yeah, let's go ahead and watch.
rex jones
Yeah, let's watch this.
This is a full interview, so we'll kind of jump around here, but I expect it'll be exciting, pretty much from you know, moment one.
So let's go ahead and watch this.
donald j trump
Guys meeting, a really good, very productive meeting.
We have one thing in coming.
We want this.
alex jones
Uh, I told he was showing up.
rex jones
Oh no, my dad's talking under it.
I didn't realize it when I grabbed the clip.
All right, you want to watch it?
We'll watch five minutes of it, but two.
alex jones
I guess he got snuck in the back.
This is bizarre.
Let's go back to it here.
donald j trump
We congratulate the mayor.
He really ran an incredible race against a lot of smart people, starting with the early primaries, against some very tough people, very smart people, and he beat him, and he beat him easily and I congratulated him and we talked about some things and uh, very soon the media got confused.
alex jones
I figured this out now.
They thought they were waiting at two for him to arrive.
He got stuck in the back because Trump wanted to meet with him first.
And then now, 30.
Okay, so he didn't show up late.
They decided to have a meeting before Trump decided what he was going to do.
rex jones
Okay.
All right, guys.
Sorry for the unprofessionalism.
I actually have a ton of news for y'all tonight, but apparently that's one bad apple out of the bunch.
And it's funny and fine to have my dad react to him.
tim tompkins
But he interrupts just a little bit.
rex jones
Yeah, we were looking for clips.
So let's see if I can find another one really quick here.
What do you think about it?
You said it's all politics.
I agree, but I think that they're having fun with it.
tim tompkins
I think here's the thing: Trump is just living on a whole nother like wavelength as everybody else, as far as like he's just playing on GTA, just going doing whatever he wants.
Right.
rex jones
I agree.
tim tompkins
And, you know, for him, it's actually, it is a game.
Life is a game for him at this point.
With the amount of power that he has, you just see the interview.
Like, look, love him or hate him.
He's pretty funny.
And he just does not care at the end of the day.
And Mom Donnie, I feel like he has to definitely save face because, you know, I don't even know.
Did Eric Adams even fucking go to the White House like this?
rex jones
No, no.
tim tompkins
I was about to say, like, this is not normal.
And I think actually, you know what?
rex jones
I think they did meet with him.
They essentially turned him into their like crony or whatever.
tim tompkins
Yeah, but like I'm saying, like, as soon as Eric Adams, like, I don't think it's normal for a mayor to go to the White House after getting elected like this.
rex jones
And I could be wrong, but all right, I'm going to stop trying because I rolled a gutter ball on this one.
Apparently, the only full clip of him in the Oval Office is him talking to my dad.
unidentified
Excuse me.
rex jones
Excuse me, my dad talking over.
tim tompkins
No, I'll find it.
Keep going.
rex jones
Okay, Tim's going to look for it.
But we've got, you know, a lot of strange behavior from Trump nowadays.
He tweets all these things about Mimdani, and then it's kind of, it's all a big club thing.
And they meet at the Oval Office and get the photo op.
Trump also did this.
I'm sure everyone's seen this.
Breaking President Trump has posted an image labeling himself King Trump, depicting Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer alongside several Democrats.
So he's in like Warhammer 40K Emperor armor, and then he's got Chucky Schumer.
I think that's Pelosi, maybe someone else.
And then I think that's Adam Schiff.
Look, I mean, this is the type of thing that keeps the base excited at this point.
I guess this is the only thing that he has to offer is like, oh, like funny, cool meme, like him dumping on someone.
And, you know, I'm not, I'm not here to just criticize Trump and just say that he like he shouldn't meme or whatever.
But at the end of the day, we're going to look back at this time period as like the president behaved this way.
Like the president actually did these things.
tim tompkins
Like I said, GTA mode, bro.
You don't care.
rex jones
I'm not particularly happy with it anymore.
It's just worn out its welcome.
And then my main issue with it is not that he does it, but when you criticize Trump or when you try to talk to someone about him, that's like a real died in the wool supporter, they will often reference the memes and the funny stuff as like deliverables.
Right.
Like stuff that he's done.
It's like, but he roasted the Democrats.
And it's like, well, what does that mean?
tim tompkins
He's hilarious.
That's what it is, but it's fun for them.
I mean, he's entertaining.
That's why they like him.
rex jones
I guess, but we're running out of time for entertainment, man.
And at the end of the day, here, let's you DM'd it to me.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
Okay.
Well, thank you very much.
unidentified
All right.
tim tompkins
This is the full segment, guys.
Pull this up.
unidentified
All right.
rex jones
We've got Trump and Mom Donnie now.
We got it figured out.
tim tompkins
But we can definitely.
rex jones
It's fine.
Just give it to me.
I'll do it.
tim tompkins
You can definitely click around.
rex jones
I got it.
unidentified
All right.
tim tompkins
Sorry.
rex jones
No, you're fine.
It's all good.
unidentified
All right.
rex jones
We've got Trump and Mom Donnie now going into the theme of Trump doing whatever he wants.
Let's go ahead and watch this.
donald j trump
We've just had a great meeting, a really good, very productive meeting.
We have one thing in common.
We want this city of ours that we love to do very well.
And I wanted to congratulate the mayor.
He really has an incredible race against a lot of smart people, starting with the early primaries against some very tough people, very smart people.
And he beat him and he beat him easily.
And I congratulated him.
And we talked about some things in very strong common, like housing and getting housing built and food and prices.
And the price of oil is coming way down.
unidentified
Anything I do is going to where.
rex jones
All he does is great as tits.
It's all he does.
Is he talking prices are lower, blah, blah, blah.
tim tompkins
And we oil is the gases did come down on the case.
I'll give him that win.
rex jones
All right.
Hallelujah.
donald j trump
The gas came down.
Good for New York.
If I can get prices down, it's good for New York.
And we've got them down way down from last year.
We have, as you know, I've been saying to a lot of people, Walmart said that Thanksgiving this year is exactly 25% less than last year.
tim tompkins
So that's good for New York.
rex jones
That's confirmed bullshit.
There's no way.
I watched Dew Dissidence do an entire breakdown of this.
And basically, the way they did it is it's the same way they rigged the CPI where they just like remove or swap items.
tim tompkins
Yeah, but it only works so long before people catch on.
Because remember, they have to adjust the jobs report every single day.
rex jones
I mean, that is outrageous.
That is our you look that up on your phone.
tim tompkins
No, Walmart definitely came out with statements from before.
Do you want me to look up?
rex jones
I think they literally, I think they remove, I think what I saw on Dew Dissidence, I think it was 50% less food, and then it was like 25% cheaper because they removed half the food.
tim tompkins
Oh, what?
rex jones
That's what I saw on Dew Dissidence.
And I could be wrong.
So we want to double check and make sure.
But like, look, we're just trying to laugh at the Zoron Trump interview and find funny moments.
But every time you see Donald, all he does, all the president does is refer to how great the economy is going.
And I'm tired of this because the economy is not going great.
Stuff is super expensive.
And we talk about this every show.
We do breakdowns on monetary policy.
We do breakdowns on inflation.
We do breakdowns on price increases.
Tim's done a lot of them.
If you want to re-watch, it's great.
tim tompkins
Okay.
So they're saying Walmart's 2025 Thanksgiving meal basket, which is something that they create, is about 25% cheaper.
However, this does not include the exact same items or quantities as the prior year.
unidentified
Many of the items were removed or downsized.
tim tompkins
The price drop is thus largely driven by smaller or altered products that that is what you're talking about.
donald j trump
Yes.
tim tompkins
Not by the wholesale prices per item.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
So yeah, you're right about that.
But it's so easy to just say, well, it's cheaper.
rex jones
All you need as a political figure is the sound bite.
It's just like people only read headlines, right?
They don't actually read the articles.
So it's the same thing.
donald j trump
Good for everybody.
But I just want to congratulate.
I think you're going to have hopefully a really great mayor.
The better he does, the happier I am, I will say there's no difference in party.
There's no difference in anything.
And we're going to be helping him to make everybody's drink.
unidentified
Didn't he threaten to send the fucking National Guardian New York?
donald j trump
Congratulations, Mr. Mayor.
rex jones
Thank you, President.
It's all fake.
All the anger, the rage.
Here's something.
I'm critical of some of your views, right?
On some pro-immigration stuff and whatnot.
There's stuff that we disagree on.
This idea that we're going to have another crusade, right?
They have the idea they're going to have a crusade and they're going to return to the Middle East and all this.
It's like this Christian idea, I guess, sort of.
That is just as ridiculous as this, in my opinion.
Like, like, like the fact that people actually think that Trump hates Mamdani so much because Trump winds him up and says that he hates Mamdani and tweets.
But then you see him all together and then it's, it's all fine.
tim tompkins
I think his real opinion is the one that he initially showed.
People always show you your cards the first time, normally, guys.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
But I, but I think this is just, he's in, you got to play ball now.
And he's doing the same thing.
rex jones
He glazed him.
tim tompkins
Okay, he also terrorists, too, but you gotta, you, you gotta play the game.
rex jones
I just had another one of these guys.
I mean, it's the beard in there.
tim tompkins
I can't really tell.
rex jones
That's funny.
tim tompkins
But here's the thing: like, you got to understand, he created an entire book called The Art of the Deal.
Go read the book.
rex jones
Did someone else write it or something?
tim tompkins
I'm sure it has some of his input.
unidentified
A lot of these books are all to discover AI.
tim tompkins
But here's the thing: he wrote The Art of the Deal, or his ghostwriter wrote The Art of the Deal.
But the end of the day, he's playing, he's trying to play chess at this point, not checkers.
And this is part of his plan.
You basically butter them up and then you come with the carrot and he's going to come with a stick if he doesn't do what he wants.
rex jones
I literally, I think it's at a point where they're like, oh, hey, man, you won.
Welcome to the big team.
Hey, and then like they're like, okay, so we're going to have fake beef in a year.
And then we might send the cops, we might not.
And he's like, okay, yeah, sure.
I'm going to get my funding, right?
Yeah, you're going to get your funding as long as you X, Y, and Z for us.
He's like, I don't really want to do Z.
Oh, have you seen this blackmail we have on you?
tim tompkins
And like, like, that's how it goes.
Like, Eric Adams had corruption charges, and he basically fled to the only came after the fact that when he started pushing back on the immigration stuff, yeah, yeah, no, of course.
That's the only time that they started.
rex jones
Yeah, that is the carrot stick that you talk about.
I agree.
zohran mamdani
I appreciated the meeting with the president.
And as he said, it was a productive meeting focused on a place of shared admiration and love, which is New York City, and the need to deliver affordability to New Yorkers, the eight and a half million people who call our city their home who are struggling to afford life in the most expensive city in the United States of America.
We spoke about rent, we spoke about groceries, we spoke about utilities, we spoke about the different ways in which people are being pushed out.
And I appreciated the time with the president.
I appreciated the conversation.
I look forward to working together to deliver that affordability for New Yorkers.
donald j trump
Thank you very much.
Any questions?
unidentified
That's a job to Stephen Nelson from the New York Post.
I've got a question for you, and then also one for Maryland.
For you, you referred to Mr. Mamdani as a communist.
Can you describe why you feel that way?
Will you do anything to stop him from arresting Prime Minister Netanyahu visits in New York?
donald j trump
Well, we didn't discuss your second part of the question.
And on your first part, I mean, he's got views out there, but who knows?
I mean, we're going to see what works.
tim tompkins
Mamdani said he was going to arrest.
rex jones
Yes, Mamdani stated that if he was the New York mayor, that he would order the NYPD to arrest Netanyahu if he came.
tim tompkins
How did I miss that?
rex jones
What the?
I mean, it was all like there's wars.
Right, well, then that makes sense to you.
tim tompkins
Clearly, this is fake.
rex jones
Look at this.
It's all dude.
It's all complete bullshit.
And I'm so over it here.
We're going to watch more of it.
I'm just going to cut back to us for a second.
Like, seriously, if you think about it, think about all the times you've been like upset or outraged, not like an actual thing happening, like COVID or hurricane or something like that.
Right.
But like, oh, like they're doing this.
The other side is doing this.
And I'm angry and I don't like it.
And I think that they're crazy.
It's literally a show.
tim tompkins
Literally it's we're watching keeping up with the Kardashians in real time here, guys.
rex jones
This should be like two magnets where they can't be together.
You know, like that, that's that's what this should be like.
Like they should Zoro Mamdani, if he gets within like 10 miles of Trump, should be like repelled by an invisible force.
If the beef was real, if this is really a game of like factions, you know, and whatnot, it is a game of factions, and it's two factions: it's the people, and then it's the people in the system, like literally just running the whole thing.
tim tompkins
Mamdani has, I guarantee you, all these people that voted for him, watch right, watch by the end of this term how unpopular he's going to be.
I mark my words.
This guy, the people that voted him in, are going to turn on him at some point for something that he did and broke the system.
rex jones
How do the New York voters feel about Mamdani, you know, going in a meeting with Trump?
Like, like, wouldn't that right?
Well, I mean, let me like, like, if you're a drag queen, you vote for Mamdani, which a lot of them did.
Like, he went and campaigned with them, and then you see him in the Oval Office with Trump.
And, like, Trump doesn't even hate gay people or anything like that.
So, I guess it's just a bad example, just a super liberal person I'm thinking of.
Then being like, he betrayed us, he betrayed us all.
And it's just like, well, he's a politician.
Like, did you trust the smile where he goes like this?
tim tompkins
He goes, Well, look at the smile there.
rex jones
Yeah.
tim tompkins
Does that look real to you?
No.
rex jones
Well, I mean, it's not, he's kind of scowling here, but we'll watch it.
donald j trump
He's going to change also.
We all change.
I change a lot.
Change a lot from when I first came to office.
It's now quite a while ago.
It's quite a while.
My first term was great.
rex jones
You ever see any of those body language channels where I draw a line between the person?
If the line is like off, like if the person is tilted, they're all there.
They're like the beta situation.
tim tompkins
Yeah, yeah.
donald j trump
We're in the greatest economy in the history of our country.
We're doing even better now.
We're doing much better now than we did even the first time.
And I can tell you, some of my views have changed.
unidentified
And we, we, I fully support communism.
rex jones
I mean, it's not that bad.
Well, he literally said Mamdani is the equivalent to the devil, basically, on social media.
tim tompkins
Yeah, he did.
donald j trump
Discussions on something.
I'm not going to discuss.
rex jones
I can't believe I gave you $50.
I can't believe that.
donald j trump
I feel very confident that he can do a very good job.
I think he is going to surprise some conservative people, actually.
And some very liberal people.
rex jones
He won't surprise them.
tim tompkins
He's going to surprise them all right.
unidentified
Mr. Momdani, it sounds like you had a productive discussion, but just days ago, you heard President Trump as a despot who betrayed the country.
He said he has first accused him of having a fascist agenda.
Are you the payants who attract any of these remarks in order to improve your relationship?
zohran mamdani
I think both President Trump and I, we are very clear about our positions and our views.
And what I really appreciate about the president is the meeting that we had focused not on places of disagreement, which there are many, and also focused on the shared purpose that we have in serving New Yorkers.
And frankly, that is something that could transform the lives of eight and a half million people who are currently struggling under a cost of living crisis with one in four living in poverty.
And the meeting came back again and again to what it could look like to lift those New Yorkers out of struggle and start to deliver them a city that they could do more than just struggle to afford it, but actually start to live in it.
donald j trump
And I've been called much worse than a despot, so it's not that insulting.
Maybe I think he'll change his mind after we get to working together.
Yes, please.
unidentified
Mr. President Matt Damon's got to come and give you Lebanon.
I would like to ask you a question about the uses that Lebanon in a good position.
And Zeban is the finest on resolve disaster, Gaza, and CAGL.
Given your assessment, guys, what do you say for the race today?
If it's state in Lebanon, and what is your next move to push toward disarmament?
Sure.
donald j trump
Well, we are pushing for total disarmament of Hamas and, frankly, everybody else.
And we actually have peace in the Middle East.
As you know, the king of Saudi Arabia just.
unidentified
All right.
rex jones
So we just, we make up lies.
We make up lies.
We bring the guy from the other team in to stand behind us.
tim tompkins
We have peace in the Middle East.
That's a new one.
That is a new one.
rex jones
Yeah.
Netanyahu illegally touched down in Lebanon.
And like they're plotting and they're planning on taking sections of Lebanon, Syria.
The killings have continued in Syria.
The killings have continued in Gaza as well, for that matter.
Like, we stopped it.
We stepped it all.
It's not on your social media feeds anymore.
We had to unchange the algorithm.
Like, that we still know what's going on.
We still know people are dying.
And I look, you know what?
Hey, maybe, maybe he's right and we're all wrong.
Wouldn't that be a nicer world to just trust Trump as the supreme leader?
It would be right.
It hurts me because, like, it feels like the liberals were right at the end of the day.
tim tompkins
Ooh, dangerous, dangerous.
rex jones
I think so.
donald j trump
We had some great meetings, and he's made a contribution toward the United States of more than a trillion dollars.
rex jones
We have now over $20 trillion coming into all bullshit, all like 10, 20-year deals where they promise us money that'll never arrive, it'll never happen.
All investments in building plants and centers that never actually get made.
It's just all for the headline.
And talking about what we were talking about like 10 minutes before, it is literally all about the headline.
That is what politics is because people don't read beyond the headline.
tim tompkins
Yeah, one of the things that was happening, especially during the tariffs, and I never did a deep dive on this, but talk about it.
Like you saw, like, he was talking about investments.
So, like, for example, one of the countries that promised investment was like Japan, right?
Japan said, okay, well, we're going to promise an investment of like 500 billion or something like that.
But then, of that, 90% of that was actually loans.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
So, that's loans that the U.S. government would take as investment, but you're actually taking a loan.
So, you're owing them money and you're paying them interest.
So, they're actually you're investing in them technically.
And then, like, only like 10% of that was like, and the numbers are slightly off, but only 10% of that was like money that would have actually gone into the system.
It was just, and it wasn't even, it wasn't even guaranteed loans.
They were the promises of a loan.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
So, that's the kind of like antics that you get.
And, same thing with the EU.
The EU ones, they said, well, we're going to have billions of dollars invested in the United States.
But of those billions of dollars, it's coming from the corporations.
But technically, legally, the EU cannot dictate their private corporations to make the investments.
They're just mainly just like, okay, we're going to promise that we will, but there's no guarantee of them actually going and putting their money in the United States because they can't legally force them to.
So, yeah, that's you are correct on some of that stuff.
rex jones
Okay.
Well, we've got another social media post, tweet, truth, whatever you want to call it.
I think it is actually from a true social.
The Republican Party has never been so united as it is right now.
Other than Ram Paul, Ram Paul Jr., Massey, Marjorie, Trader Brown.
Like, this is the thing.
His brain is starting to go bad because the nicknames he's calling, he's calling her, you know, you know why he's calling her Brown?
tim tompkins
Because of the Hispanic thing or what?
rex jones
No, she's not Hispanic.
tim tompkins
She's white.
No, I know, but just like something Hispanic.
rex jones
No, no, it's not racial related.
tim tompkins
What is it?
rex jones
Because when grass goes bad, it turns brown.
Oh, it's not even good.
tim tompkins
It's creative, huh?
rex jones
No, that's stupid.
The mode is no, but that's funny.
This is like dumb.
unidentified
Whatever.
rex jones
Marjorie, Trader Brown.
You know, you get to pick Trader or Brown.
You can't do both.
And a couple of other lowlifes.
And other than the fact that many want the election-threatening filibuster terminated, the Democrats will do it the first minute of their first chance.
And some don't.
There is great spirit and cohesion.
He writes, man, he writes like a brain bad, dude.
tim tompkins
It's Chat GPT a little bit.
rex jones
Plus, no, this is real.
Plus, the Republican Party is much bigger than it was when I announced in 2015 or ever was before.
He's taking credit for that.
Many millions more members.
We now have the strongest border ever, biggest tax cuts, best economy.
Every time, every time you get the same shit.
But in here, you see he's also slandering Marjorie Taylor Greene.
And this comes from today, right?
And you know what's significant about that is that this video, I think it came out yesterday or the day before.
tim tompkins
This is sad.
rex jones
Yeah, MTG has announced she's going to resign, folks.
And I'm sure everyone.
tim tompkins
She fell to the pressure, man.
rex jones
Yeah, I disagree.
I think she's making the right move for now.
Everyone on the internet already knows about this.
So I'm not going to explain it at length.
But, you know, she's, she's, she's stepping aside.
As of like January next year, she's gone and she has said that she is not going to run for president.
And people like Laura Loomer, other people on the right have made the claim that she's going to run for president and that the reason why she attacked Trump or whatever, attacking Trump is just speaking normally and not like praising the dear leader.
But the reason why she attacked Trump is because Trump wouldn't endorse her for governor or for senator.
So she went against him apparently for that reason.
I don't buy that at all.
But let's watch the clip now of this.
I believe that she does.
We're going to watch it now.
marjorie taylor greene
Hi, everyone.
I've always represented the common American man and woman as a member of the House of Representatives, which is why I've always been despised in Washington, D.C. and just never fit in.
Americans are used by the political industrial complex of both political parties, election cycle after election cycle, in order to elect whichever side can convince Americans to hate the other side more.
And the results are always the same.
No matter which way the political pendulum swings, Republican or Democrat, nothing ever gets better for the common American man or woman.
The debt goes higher.
Corporate and global interests remain Washington sweethearts.
American jobs continue to be replaced, whether it's by illegal labor or legal labor by visas or just shipped overseas.
Small businesses continue to be swallowed by big corporations.
Americans' hard-earned tax dollars always fund foreign wars, foreign aid, and foreign interest.
And the spending power of the dollar continues to decline.
The average American family can no longer survive on a single breadwinner's income as both parents have to work in order to simply survive.
And today, many in my children's generation feel hopeless for their future and don't think they will ever realize the American dream.
And that breaks my heart.
I ran for Congress in 2020 and have fought every single day, believing that Make America Great Again meant America first.
I have one of the most conservative voting records in Congress defending the First Amendment, Second Amendment, unborn babies, because I believe God creates life at conception, and I love to fight for the little guy.
Strong safe borders, I have fought hard for that.
I fought against COVID tyrannical insanity and mandated mass vaccinations.
And I've never voted to fund foreign wars with your hard-earned tax dollars.
However, with almost one year into our majority, the legislature has been mostly sidelined.
We endured an eight-week shutdown wrongly, resulting in the House not working for the entire time.
And we are entering campaign season, which means all courage leaves and only safe campaign re-election mode is turned on in the House of Representatives.
During the law.
rex jones
She makes a point there.
And I know you got something to say.
I'll make it quick.
You know, yes, it does seem like they switch up and they campaign more during election season, but they don't even campaign to the people anymore to the own party.
unidentified
And that's like, you know, that's an analysis.
rex jones
Right.
Haven't you?
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
Because you see these people and they go to the big in the world and they say the craziest thing.
And to an average voter, you'd be like, hell no, I would never support this policy this person is advocating for.
But then everyone at the rally, all the elites, people with the money that they love it.
They love it.
And that's the thing that she never did that.
tim tompkins
That is an excellent point.
I will say.
I think that was.
rex jones
If you think about that for a second, you realize how true it is.
And it's real like Chinese Communist Party, Soviet Union stuff where you're all in the room and you have to appease the party chairman or the leader or whatever.
That's what it's turned into now.
You know, the Democrats, they don't really exist politically anymore, but they're going to reform based on how sycophantic things have become.
tim tompkins
They're the little like their smeagel in the corner of the room, just crawling, waiting for their chance.
rex jones
Yeah, no, they're going to get the meat.
tim tompkins
So here's my take on this one.
Right.
With her, I know you like her a lot.
I have a 50-50 split on her.
I like what she's doing more recently, but I think she was a little too radical for me on certain points.
She's very much so that Georgia Southern true and got biased against people from the hate.
She hates immigrants.
Like she just hates them all.
She's one of those people that's like, get rid of the H-1B altogether.
rex jones
That's a big issue for you.
tim tompkins
You know, like, she's just...
rex jones
Yeah, I agree with her.
tim tompkins
She's very extreme when it comes to it.
I like the people who have a little more nuance to see, like, okay, let's, let's, let, let's do these things here and then we'll do here.
She's like, nah, let's just do it all.
rex jones
Here's the thing.
I was just thinking about this because I was trying to craft a retort to you, but then it occurred to me in my head and I was like, oh, this is an interesting thought experiment.
I was about to say, I would vote for a Democratic socialist or a socialist if they were anti-war.
And I was like, huh, does a person like that already exist?
No, the Democrats, they're quiet about it, but they love the war.
All of them, even the most radical of them, you know, Bernie.
tim tompkins
They were giving the money to you.
rex jones
Bernie has done some signaling on the Israel thing.
But then I watched this Tim Dillon episode and he's like, you know, the killing of innocent civilians is never okay.
And the war crimes, well, but he goes, and then Ukraine is our greatest ally in Europe and we must support them against Russia.
Russia's military has been degraded.
And you're like, you don't get to pick and choose because obviously, you know what, you're signaling to your base that you're pro-Palestine because it's important for your political power.
But then when it comes to war and it comes to people killed, a lot more people have been killed by factors.
People have been killed in Ukraine that have been killed in the Middle East recently.
tim tompkins
One other thing about her, not just the immigration stuff.
She's also part of the swamp who does inside trading.
And the thing about that is, and you know what?
I will.
I promise you guys, I will do a deep dive on this.
I'm going to show you guys all of the insider trading that both the Democratic money now.
rex jones
I thought it was like 40 million.
tim tompkins
Democrats and Republicans.
She's one of these people.
She sold, she either, she bought stocks of Lockheed Martin right before the Ukraine war happened.
unidentified
Wow.
rex jones
That makes me like her a lot less.
But hey, look at these people and no one's perfect.
tim tompkins
And let me not get it.
Let me not get sued for defamation and I will confirm that.
rex jones
I'm calling the lawyers now.
It's all over.
The show, we had a good run.
But, you know, like, here's the thing.
It's crazy for someone like her to retire like this, but it's also not.
This strikes me as very political watching it.
This is extremely political.
And she says she's not going to run for president.
She didn't use the word promise.
I saw the tweet where she did it.
I don't think we have that to pull up, but she may reference it in the video.
She said she wouldn't run for president, but she didn't promise in there.
And she could easily say, oh, I changed my mind, whatever.
I don't know.
tim tompkins
She wouldn't win.
I'm going to be honest.
rex jones
I don't know.
tim tompkins
She's not going to get that silent majority.
But she's going to get the Republicans, but she's too right to get the people in the center like me.
rex jones
Yeah, but I mean, who do they, it depends who they run her against, man.
I mean, if we had, if AO, if it's, if it's AOC.
tim tompkins
Ooh, God, don't.
rex jones
I 100%.
I see what you're saying, Mark Kelly.
I think it's a little bit more than that.
tim tompkins
They'll put Gavin before her.
rex jones
Gavin Newsom would probably kill him.
I don't disagree with that.
And we've seen like what the floor.
You've seen women versus men.
It's a bad matchup.
Who?
It's a bad matchup.
Woman versus man in the presidential.
tim tompkins
It always is.
rex jones
Yeah.
tim tompkins
It always is.
rex jones
It seems to be a bad matchup.
But, you know, maybe it'd be different without Trump.
And we have that post-Trump era.
tim tompkins
She's not popular enough yet.
Like, not a lot of people know her.
rex jones
I'm going to go back to the video.
marjorie taylor greene
Down in our nation's history.
I raged against my own speaker and my own party for refusing to proactively work diligently to pass the plan to save Americans health care and protect Americans from outrageous, overpriced, and unaffordable health insurance policies.
The House should have been in session working every day to fix this disaster.
But instead, America was force fed disgusting political drama once again from both sides of the aisle on television every single day.
My bills, which reflect many of President Trump's executive orders, like calling for a new census counting Americans only to draw new districts, making English the official language of the U.S., making it a felony to medically trans a minor and other bills like eliminating capital gains taxes on the sale of your primary home and eliminating H-1B visas.
Just sit.
They all sit collecting dust.
That's how it is for most members of Congress bills.
The speaker never brings them to the floor for a vote.
Many common Americans are no longer.
rex jones
How is she supposed to make the money?
tim tompkins
Dude, I just looked.
I wasn't lying.
She, two days before, two days before Vladimir Putin's full-scale invasion, she bought Lockheed Martin stock.
She's part of the swamp, man.
She's part of the swamp.
rex jones
I mean, they're all part of the swamp.
We talked about what the swamp is, is money, right?
But at the same time, like she's not as implicated as some of these other parties.
tim tompkins
Yeah, I mean, there's nuances.
I don't know.
rex jones
She made money and it was immoral the way she made money and she shouldn't have made the money that way.
But at the same time, is she breaking the law?
No.
unidentified
Oh, you're scanning.
All right.
rex jones
Explain how stupid that scientific data is.
unidentified
Pretty obvious.
tim tompkins
Very important.
rex jones
That's a high-level thought experiment.
What you just saw.
Explain how it's illegal.
tim tompkins
Dude, that's literally the definition of insider trading.
They're part of committees.
They're all part of committees where they're privy to information.
If you know that a stock is going to move before it moves, the only way you can know that is if you have had those conversations.
It's a free market.
And the only way the free market works is if everybody has access to the same information and is trading on equal playing fields.
That's the whole reason why in 2012, they passed the bill to require these congresspeople to disclose their trades.
rex jones
Interesting.
tim tompkins
That's the exact reason because there were people making buku money off of this crazy amount of things that were happening.
In the 90s, it was even worse.
During like the downturn, it was like these politicians were like beating, they were beating, what's his name?
Warren Buffett.
Some people had upwards of 25% gains, whereas Warren Buffett was only beating the market 2.5% of the market.
rex jones
Totally organic.
Yeah, I see your point now.
And that's why we do the interesting thought experiment on the gray area.
I definitely did not know that.
That's why we do that.
tim tompkins
No, I'll do a deep dive on.
rex jones
It's a high-level thought experiment for those.
marjorie taylor greene
Convinced by paid political propaganda spokespersons and consultants on TV and paid shills on social media, obediently serving with cult-like conviction to force others to swallow the political party talking points.
rex jones
Yes.
marjorie taylor greene
Because they know how much credit card debt they have.
They know how much their bills have gone up over the past five years.
They actually do their own grocery shopping and no food costs too much.
Their rent has increasingly gone up and up.
They have been outbid by corporate asset managers too many times when they put in an offer to buy a house.
They have been laid off after being forced to train their visa holding replacement.
The college degree they were told to earn only left them in debt with no big six-figure salary.
They see more homeless people than ever on their own community streets.
They can't afford health insurance or practically any insurance, and they just aren't stupid.
These are the people I represent and love because that is who all of my family and friends are, common Americans.
I've been blessed to represent the 14th District of Georgia for five years.
That is filled.
The district is filled with some of the most wonderful, kind-hearted, God-fearing, patriotic, hardworking people you will ever meet.
Good, regular, common Americans.
I mean, I've worked hard to bring taxpayer dollars back home to help district needs.
I impeached Biden's Secretary of Homeland after watching my constituents die as he facilitated dangerous open border invasion into America.
And I led the effort to defund hard left politically biased NPR and PBS and the corrupt USAID.
And I did that as chair of the Doge subcommittee.
I have fought harder than almost any other elected Republican to elect Donald Trump and Republicans to power.
I traveled the country for years.
I spent millions of my own money.
I missed precious time with my family that I can never get back.
And I showed up in places like outside the New York courthouse in Collect Pond Park against a raging leftist mob.
rex jones
Okay.
T. Bled says, okay, that's enough.
He says that's enough.
tim tompkins
Oh, no, scroll up.
New Groprada had a very hot take.
rex jones
You read that one.
tim tompkins
He said, her giving up when she finally feels pressure is another example of why women don't belong in politics.
rex jones
I mean, that's wild.
Look, it makes sense for her, right?
Like, that's wild.
I'm sure she's gotten a ton of death threats.
I'm sure she's gotten actually beyond that, a ton of credible threats on her life.
It can't be an easy position to be Marjorie Taylor Greene.
I think she's still signaling for politics.
I don't think she's done.
tim tompkins
I think there's a cost-benefit analysis that everybody does in their head.
She's already gone in.
She's been in there for a minute.
She's made her money, as we've seen.
Right.
And at the certain point at which like you see things are not going to change, it's the same reason why I feel like Elon got out of the business.
He just sees that the system is so messed up that it's just like, you might as well just go find other ways to do things.
rex jones
I mean, look, don't talk bad about criminal mommy.
unidentified
Okay.
rex jones
No, I don't want to hear any, I don't hear any slander of criminal mommy.
I don't want to hear any degradation.
She's a sweet lady that made 40 million to help America.
Okay.
So like, look, here's the thing.
I'm poking fun.
I get it.
Look, they're all corrupt.
I still like her, though.
Okay.
I'm allowed to pick because all the politicians are corrupt and most of them evil, not all, but most.
I'm allowed to pick the ones that I like.
tim tompkins
Now, here's like fantasy football.
It is like fantasy football, but you chose the QB that pumped the air into the ball.
rex jones
Hey, you know, that was never proven.
tim tompkins
But here, here's the thing.
This is why I love the gray area, guys, because I've moved from the right from the left to the center and then I moved a little right.
And then things went crazy.
And I went like, all right, we're clearly truly center.
So I call everybody out on their bullshit and I'm hearing the facts.
rex jones
And now that you've, as a smart person with a good brain, now that you've become like really, because of the show and other things, like really politically aware, like checking the news and whatnot, you kind of, you're like, like all these positions kind of suck.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
And that's what I've realized.
tim tompkins
And that is why I'll continue like in the middle of the segment, just like you were like, Well, she's done everything good.
I just had to point that out because it wouldn't be the great area if she didn't get some shade too, right?
You know, so at the end of the day, like, I'm gonna keep preaching this and I'm gonna expose everybody's laundry for all of you guys to be well informed because there may be other politicians, whether you're right or left, that you're like, man, I really like that person, but then you didn't really realize some of the things that they've done behind closed doors that they haven't shown.
rex jones
It's the money, right?
It's the vast sums of money, and they act like they're broke and they act like their job is so hard that they sit in a building and they read paper and they talk.
It's like high school or something.
tim tompkins
Well, here's the thing about it: I know you have to have a certain level of integrity, but I think what goes through some of these people's heads is like, okay, you went to the school, this high school full of these people, and then you just like went in there with good intentions.
Then you saw it was so bad that you like couldn't change things.
And it's like, if you can't beat them, you join them at that point because it's like you might be ethical that entire time.
And this shows human nature too.
She might have been ethical going in there and been like, okay, these are the things I have.
But then, you know, the Republican guy or the Democratic guy, he's just like making some money on the side, gaming the system.
And then you're just out here struggling just by regular means.
And then you're just like, fuck it.
I might as well.
rex jones
Will you ask Chat GPT or look it up what her net worth was before Congress?
Yeah, before Congress.
I just think that would be interesting for the viewers and listeners.
But real quick, while you do that, we got the reaction from Loomer.
All right.
Now, Loomer is like a D1 first-round draft pick hater.
All right.
No one hates more viciously.
No one hates she hates everybody.
But here's what she had to say.
And it's actually not sad to stick up for yourself when you were lied about by an elected official, Marjorie Taylor Greene, who went out of her way to plan a hit piece against me to kill off an employment offer given to me.
So she didn't get a job, according to her, and she blames it on MTG.
She lied about me and also accused me of having a mental illness.
If you ask Grock about Laura Loomer, it'll tell you she's she's been 51.50 like twice.
tim tompkins
Holy shit, dude.
You asked me to look this up before we get into this.
Yeah, her net worth in 2021 was only about 700K.
Now her net worth is somewhere between like 22 to 25 million.
rex jones
What is that?
Like 25X, basically?
Like 30X?
tim tompkins
Dude, what is it?
rex jones
30X.
Yeah, that's what the multiplier is.
But here's what Loomer says: So, yes, I hate her.
Yes, I hope she is destined for hell.
I mean, who thinks that about anybody?
Like, that's the worst thing you could think about a person.
Yes, I wish her the worst.
Yes, I'm happy.
She's a hard time.
Yes, I feel this.
Yes, I had every right to feel that way.
This is why you don't date that folks.
This is why you don't do it.
Why don't you ever call her out?
You think it's what she did to me out of spite?
You are a hypocrite.
I see these people preach only go one way.
I mean, dude, like so hateful.
So hateful.
I mean, she's retiring from the field.
She's on the right.
They've been aligned on a lot of different issues over the years.
I mean, Loomer's not a young political actor, and neither is MTG.
They've been around for like two election cycles basically.
And, you know, like, this is a crazy person.
This is a person with borderline personality disorder.
Leniency.
tim tompkins
It goes back to your original point.
It sounds crazy to background licking the slop up out of this stuff.
And, like, oh, but girl, you're doing the right thing.
rex jones
I guess so.
I mean, she does it for love of the game.
I don't think anyone needs to tell Loomer what to do.
Like, she's just focused and on target, but she is glad or hopes that she's destined for hell.
tim tompkins
By the way, that multiplier, 30, 30 to 35 times her net worth.
Four years in four years, guys, that's mathematically impossible to do on your own unless you have some crazy business.
rex jones
You know what an interesting statistic to be or to get would be?
It would be to find out what the average increase on net worth is.
Oh, damn.
That's a good one.
tim tompkins
That's a good one.
That's probably like a, I'm going to do that.
I'm actually going to do that for the segment.
Oh, my God.
rex jones
That's a good one, right?
We should save that.
We should just, we should do a whole deep dive on their wealth.
tim tompkins
I'm going to do it.
rex jones
Like, how much I'm going to do it.
Yeah, that's a great one.
That's a phenomenal thing.
tim tompkins
That's literally going to be the next segment, guys.
Right.
rex jones
And not for tonight, but not for tonight.
tim tompkins
Well, I'm going to be here.
The following Sunday.
rex jones
That's going to be a badass segment.
tim tompkins
Oh, yes.
rex jones
Just to get into it again in the second hour here.
We'll go a little while longer to get through some more news.
We're going to do a deep dive on Primal Core, the new supplement brand that we've started, going through the ingredients, the studies, and the information.
Basically, this is such a cool thing, guys.
You're going to want to stick around and see it.
But we have another story, and we got Eric Swalwell.
This guy was famous for dating a Chinese spy named Feng Fang.
unidentified
All right.
rex jones
And he's a congressman from California.
He is one of the frontrunners to become the new governor after Newsom steps down, probably to run or whatever.
And listen how easy he wants voting to be.
You know, just phone it in.
It should be, it should be like that.
eric swalwell
I want us to be able to vote by phone.
rex jones
I mean, everyone vote by phone.
I mean, the arrogance.
What are you talking about?
First off, Anger, we'll minimize.
We'll go full screen here because, you know, this is a racial question.
And I get to ask you this question.
All right.
A lot of the times, the liberals and the people on the left, they're against voter ID.
And their reasoning for it is that black people, people of color, minorities, poor people, they don't know how to get a driver's license.
unidentified
Okay.
rex jones
What's your view on that?
tim tompkins
There is some truth to some of it.
Okay.
Not okay.
So sometimes in these like these communities, they lack certain like things that need to be in place in order to get the right documentation.
Like I literally have a cousin that lost his social security card and it was like a big ordeal because he didn't have the, he didn't know how to do it properly.
And I know there's access to the information and the internet and stuff like that, but there was more hoops that he had to jump through.
But long story short, there is a tiny bit of merit to that.
They're not necessarily lying, but they're exaggerating the situation.
rex jones
But I think the solution is to like make an ID free and to make sure everyone can get one, not to get rid of it and to have people vote by phone.
tim tompkins
Yeah, 100%.
rex jones
And then they're making the argument, and they make this about like vast swaths of people.
Like Biden famously said, like, black people don't know how to use the internet.
tim tompkins
Oh, yeah.
rex jones
Like during 2020.
Like he literally said this.
Biden said black people didn't know how to use the internet, right?
So it's this liberal idea.
And ultimately, they're trying to skew the votes.
eric swalwell
Well, by phone.
Yeah.
If we can do our taxes, do our, you know, our, make our health care appointments, you know, make essentially.
rex jones
These are the people that will sign our entire future and government away to AI.
What he just said.
You know, it should all just be on the phone.
It should just be one thing.
tim tompkins
My name is Juan.
I'm voting for Biden.
rex jones
It's like, are you an American citizen?
tim tompkins
Yes.
rex jones
It's ridiculous.
It's so exciting.
eric swalwell
Do you're banking online?
You should be able to vote by phone.
Make it safe.
Make it secure, but it's actually already happening.
rex jones
Oh, he wants that digital ID.
This is actually a very deep clip.
Like, this is everything they want.
It's just like the liberal promise, the promise of the Democratic Party has always been, we're just going to make it easier for you, man.
And they build a control grid around you.
tim tompkins
I just got to look at the bottom right and it tells me everything I need to know.
rex jones
Right.
eric swalwell
I want us to be a blue state that doesn't do just a little bit better than like Georgia or Alabama when it comes to Texas.
I want us to max out democracy.
Also, as it relates to democracy, if you wait in line for 30 minutes or more, if you do want to vote in person, I think you should find every county for every minute that a person has to wait longer.
tim tompkins
Okay.
So one of their claims also is like accessibility to going to the voting, the voting pools, polls.
More often than not, some of these very poor people don't have access to the same level of transportation and they say it's harder for them to go and vote.
But I mean, we do have city buses.
rex jones
I can understand that.
And I can even, I can understand absentee and mail-in to a certain extent when you're talking about a rural community like that.
And that's always been the case in certain cases.
It's always been that way.
But I mean, these people, I had a point I was going to make there, but it's just like you say, he's running for California governor.
This is what he's representing himself as a maximized democracy, blue state guy.
Eric Spolwell.
Damn.
eric swalwell
We have to be better, not just a little bit better than the other states.
The DMV.
I don't think Californians should have to go in person to the DMV anymore.
What?
rex jones
See, it's literally like become a slug person.
tim tompkins
That's like ultimate way for you to create fraud.
rex jones
Right.
If you don't have to literally show my face, fraud is their favorite thing on earth.
Like it's all, and this is the promise.
This is what my dad always says.
Like, hey, you know, like, why not breathe off a respirator?
You know, like, I like going to physical places.
I like having to go through processes and do things.
Ultimately, if everything is on the phone, they can turn it off immediately.
I know they could close an office and do XYZ and whatnot, but if there are these physical institutions where people work, they employ people.
He's like, Yeah, I want to fire everyone at the DMV.
That's what he just said.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
I mean, my fear isn't necessarily that part of like them shutting the whole system off.
It's more so the fraud part.
Like we're in such a techno-advanced society right now that like scammers are coming up with all different types of scams.
rex jones
The calls are so bad.
tim tompkins
Oh man, dude.
I'm so sick of it.
Like every time I get the fucking random phone call, sometimes they don't even pick up.
It's just quiet and it hangs up.
Don't know what that shit's about.
But the real fraud is like somebody dies, right?
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
You've got access to their digital ID.
You can now go and pose as that person.
rex jones
Correct.
tim tompkins
So there's like just like all those millions of people that are getting free Social Security that are like 200 years old.
Well, it's very easy for you to use digital ID and just go and like forge a bunch of people.
rex jones
We're very, we're against digital ID.
It's a control mechanism.
eric swalwell
I think we can do that virtually.
I think you can have the DMV employees do it virtually, but that's a lot of real estate.
rex jones
Yeah, we're totally not going to fire them.
Like he catches himself there.
He brings up the employees.
tim tompkins
Yeah, he had to.
rex jones
Is that the most popular position?
eric swalwell
Digitized at a DMV.
Digitized at the end of the day.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
What a moron.
tim tompkins
I think you should have both.
That's weird to sound say, but I think like maybe that sounds stupid, but there is a case where like I would be like, sometimes I wish I had a digital ID just for the fact of convenience because like I lost my wallet today.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
And I freaked out.
rex jones
I feel like they kind of have it in there.
tim tompkins
The whole process I went through my head that I needed to go get a new ID and all the loops and holes it would be.
rex jones
Dude, I waited an entire month after I went there and I had to wait two weeks to get an appointment.
Yeah.
tim tompkins
I get it.
That is the one thing that I'd be like, okay, either you fix the times because that's the only reason why I never got my Texas.
I was like, you know, I'm just going to keep New York.
I'm going back and forth anyway.
So I might as well keep the New York because it took me a very long time for to get the appointment, like you said.
And I didn't, it was like all the way.
I tried to do it in January and it was booked out until May.
And I was like, okay, well, fuck that.
Like, you really want me to get an ID, then you need to make it easier for me to get one.
But that, that would be the scenario that I would say.
It's just the convenience of like, knowing I could get that immediately.
rex jones
Right.
And it's very hard to get things like your social and whatnot, but here's the thing: those who would give up liberty to gain security deserve neither and would lose both.
I really believe in this.
And every time we make things easier, we make them simpler, they get worse.
So, we're about to go into the supplement portion of this live stream where I'm going to talk about where we're going to talk about the new brand, Primal Core.
We're going to talk about the exciting supplements we have.
We got two of them, and they come in a combo pack, whatever you're interested in.
We're going to get into the deep dive on all of that.
But I've just got one final story, just one little thing because you know, Israel, Israel, Israel, engagement, engagement, engagement.
tim tompkins
Everybody wants to talk about Israel.
rex jones
Everyone's talking about Israel.
unidentified
I'm going to spend an hour not talking about Israel because I don't want to talk about it.
rex jones
So, U.S. Ambassador Mike Huckabee reportedly held a quiet off-the-books meeting with Jonathan Pollard, the Israeli spy who spent 30 years in a U.S. prison.
Later said, Israel should threaten nuclear strikes on the U.S. if arms delivery show.
And in this clip, he's referencing what?
The Yom Kippur War, right?
tim tompkins
Hold on, that last part.
What?
Yeah.
Nuclear strikes.
If we don't stop, it's like, are you ready for this?
Oh, my God.
Yeah, go ahead, man.
Now everybody got me.
jonathan pollard
It's hard for me to admit this.
We are now feeding our enemy.
I mean, this has never happened in history before.
And you have to ask why.
And I don't want to hear this business that is consistent with Jewish morality.
It isn't.
Anybody saying that doesn't know anything about Jewish morality at all?
unidentified
Well, I think also our leaders have had their necks in a vice grip by other countries.
jonathan pollard
Let me give you an example of that.
rex jones
That makes sense.
jonathan pollard
I was criticized very heavily for opposing the ceasefire.
The American imposed ceasefire in Lebanon on us.
And I was told by certain people in the government: look, we didn't have choice because we were being threatened with a complete cutoff of arms.
So I listened to this, and the individual telling me this said, You don't believe this?
Or what?
I said, Well, I believe that the Obiden administration, as I called it, did threaten us.
But I said, You're mistaken if you think there's never a choice.
There was a choice.
He said, Well, what?
Is it to have our weapons cut off?
I said, No, let me bring you back to October 1973.
rex jones
Here we go.
jonathan pollard
During the Yom Kippur War, when Henry Kissinger instituted an arms embargo against us, he stopped the aerial resupply of our army at that point to extract diplomatic concessions from us.
And what happened?
What happened was at A4, Skyhawk was parked at Tel North Air Base with some interesting weapons under its wings.
And we told the Americans, take your eye in the sky and take a good look at the airplane that's on that runway.
And the next day, the airlifts started.
tim tompkins
So I can't believe people like this exist.
rex jones
They're proud of it, man.
Like, he's bragging about it.
tim tompkins
I can't believe people like this exist.
rex jones
And look how cute they play.
And like, they, they won't, like, the government, they won't admit to having nuclear weapons.
They say, maybe we do, maybe we don't.
But it's just like, yeah, like, we had, we had the, we had the jet parts and it had the nuclear weapon on it.
tim tompkins
And look, I'm not, he's not speaking for all of Israel.
Let me just press.
rex jones
No, but he worked for the government.
tim tompkins
He worked for the government, but like, also, his opinions are his own.
But like for him, he's that little kid that you just gave money to at first just to be nice.
And then now he's holding it over your head and basically trying to hold you hostage.
The first off, you do something like that, and you throw, let's say, Israel does something like this, and they launch a missile at the United States, which they would never.
How long do you think it takes for us to respond and literally blow up their entire like it doesn't make any sense?
rex jones
That's not what it's that's not what it's about, it's a suicide cult, like it's about going down with the ship, it's about being strong, and that's what he's talking about at the beginning of the clip.
This is what he's talking about: is like people saying, Oh, it's against Jewish morality.
No, it's not you, like they're saying, like, rise up.
Like, I think, like, that the saying of the IDF is like, rise and kill, or something like that.
Like, this is their mentality.
And you want the icing on the cake, you want the cherry on top of it.
tim tompkins
What is it?
rex jones
Trump commuted his sentence, Biden pardoned him.
So, he got favors from two administrations on essentially a lifetime.
tim tompkins
I'm just finding more and more reasons to just love all the buttons.
rex jones
See how important it is to vote and to support vote for what, right?
Like, what are you voting for at the end of the day?
You're voting, you're voting for this guy.
Hey, you vote for Biden, you're voting for him to get pardoned.
You're voting for Trump, you're voting for him to get commuted.
unidentified
Like, there's nowhere you can go to vote against.
tim tompkins
Now, here's the thing: they should keep his ass in jail because that is he's loony tunes at that point.
rex jones
Netanyahu met him on the tarmac in Israel, crazy, man.
It's beyond anything.
tim tompkins
Here's the thing: like I said, they would never agree to something like this, they would never even think of doing something like that today either.
Like, you think Trump would tolerate that?
rex jones
Oh, hell no, dude.
I don't, I think, I think they like, here's the thing: I think that the American government is so compromised on so many different levels and they face so many different threats that they can't afford to mess with Israel right now.
tim tompkins
Even if we could win or figure it out, like, like, okay, what are like, let's do the, let's, let's take that argument, right?
What are we so reliant on Israel for that?
rex jones
We control the Middle East because technically they work for us, but we're in the process of building them an empire that won't require us in the national.
Like, this is the struggle in the Levant.
It's the Wesley Clark referring down seven countries in five years.
They got Sudan, they got Libya, they rock, they got Lebanon to a large extent.
And the only ones left, I'm missing one or two.
Like, the only one missing is Iran.
tim tompkins
They got Jordan, too.
rex jones
Yeah, Jordan.
tim tompkins
Jordan's pretty docile.
rex jones
They've installed all of these dictators.
And what we say, what our policy is in the Middle East, is we go, We want no secular government.
That's why we had to get rid of Gaddafi.
That's why we had to get rid of Assad.
That's why we get rid of all these people.
Why we got rid of Saddam Hussein?
Anywhere where they allow a secularist population to exist where people of different religions coexist with each other, that cannot be tolerated.
tim tompkins
It's so sad because before all of this bullshit, um, like the support for Israel was very high, like just across the board, before the whole Gaza stuff.
And like, I did I have a lot of people that I know are from Israel.
I have, I'm not paid by Mossad or anything like that.
I'm not getting my $7,000 for saying this, but like ultimately, again, Netanyahu does not represent the people.
And the people, I know you're talking about polls and stuff and things like that, but in reality, before this whole like negative feedback loop, most people were just like, We just want a good life, essentially.
rex jones
I guess so, but I am so sick of these people.
And you know what?
It's something I've had to deal with forever on the internet.
And like, I remember it being very young, dealing with this.
You know, I don't know a thing about being Jewish or what it means to be Jewish or whatever, but like my mother and therefore me, it makes me Jewish, right?
Even if I'm an eighth, even if I'm whatever, which is what I am, right?
So I have that identity, right?
And I have people on the right all the time, you know, messaging me all kinds of shit.
And I don't care, it is what it is.
That doesn't bother me at all.
What bothers me is because I had this identity forced upon me just by nature and whatnot.
I have to see these people that are like the core of that identity that represent themselves as the core of like being a Jewish person or being a Jew is being an Israeli, essentially.
And that's what they've sold to people because there are a lot of Jewish people or people of Jewish descent or heritage or ethnicity that don't support this stuff.
But what Netanyahu has done very successfully over the past 20 years is he's managed to marry the identity of Israel, the state, to the Jewish people.
tim tompkins
Yeah, that's the part I don't like.
rex jones
I find it dispersed.
tim tompkins
There are Jews all over the entire world.
It's not just the people from Israel.
That's just a subset.
rex jones
And this is the thing.
This is the thing.
And all they do is that they whine and they bitch about anti-Semitism all day as they go and bomb and kill more people.
I know about anti-Semitism.
I have people talk to me all the time.
All right.
So like for someone to say, oh, you have no experience, X, Y, Z. You don't know what it's like to be us.
I probably do more than you.
Like, when have you ever experienced people calling you out on this or talking shit to you about this?
Some made up scenario in your head when you're at the Hamptons, right?
With your millions of dollars.
Like, you've never received criticism on behalf of being Jewish, but these people, they have the biggest victimhood complex imaginable and they make it their entire identity.
It's all that they are.
tim tompkins
Okay.
So I want to take a macro argument to this too.
I think we got the Western countries specifically, United States, EU specifically.
I think we got Israel into this mess as well.
Right.
And the thing is, is like, okay, Israel by large is like one of the most hated regions by most of those countries in the Middle East, even before this happened.
Right.
So they were constantly subjected to constantly feeling like we're under bombs, we're under threat.
rex jones
Like we don't know what they did constant territorial expansion.
They would hate.
tim tompkins
No, I know.
I know they, I, I know they did some of that, but that was dictated.
Like, again, my macro argument was Britain did that too.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
And I get it.
tim tompkins
I think we got that.
We created this mess.
The United States, the EU has created this mess.
And ultimately, what I'm saying is, is that if they didn't go and make this whole referendum and say, we're just going to arbitrarily cut up the country this way, and then you get this piece and then they get this piece.
We started this.
rex jones
Any state that generates the loyalty of this person and the behavior of this person and what this person does against his own native land, which I believe he is, unfortunately, an American, if you can call him that.
Any state that he, that this dude is aligned with, the dude that flexes, yeah, we had the nuclear weapons ready on the tarmac and we told them to look with their eye on the sky at the missiles on the plane.
Any state where that rationale is going on, where that level of thinking is going on, that level of power trip, that's a state that I can't support.
tim tompkins
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
The whole thing comes down to the minority have most of the power and they speak for the majority.
It's the same thing here.
rex jones
Yeah, dude, we just disagree on this, man.
I pulled up the polling.
Like the Israeli population, they want to change.
Yeah, but like you don't know this people.
tim tompkins
Here's the thing.
And we could go in circles, but like we don't know here in the United States what it feels like to be under constant threat.
It's like, okay, the United States went and went into this war in Afghanistan and you and I didn't ask when we were kids, right?
To be like, yeah, we want to be involved in that.
Same reason why we're saying Israel is one of these most hated countries in the world based off of these Middle Eastern countries hating them.
The people who are there, not all of those people asked for them to go and make this whole mess and create all these wars.
So at the end of the day, when you have bombs constantly coming on you as just a regular, regular Schmeggular citizen, you're going to freak out and you're going to be like, okay, well, my fight or flight response is going to kick in.
I'm going to choose fight because I'm tired of feeling under pressure.
We don't know what it feels like to have sirens go off.
And it's the same in these Middle Eastern countries, too.
Iran is doing the same thing.
rex jones
I just think that they are the people that attack.
And then when they get attacked, they attack a lot.
tim tompkins
But that's what I'm saying.
Iran is the same way.
rex jones
It is an identity that was forged after World War II, where they have to be tough because they were oppressed.
That's what it is.
I have Jewish relatives.
I have talked to them about this.
That is what it is.
That is what the identity is.
So like there's no arguing or debate on that.
And that's why they're very proud of their strength.
They're very proud of their military.
They flex their nuclear weapons.
That's why they behave that way.
And I get it.
But at the end of the day, you have Israel.
You have what's happening here.
You have what's happening around the world.
And we talk about it all.
And the reason why we have to zero in on the countries that do like the most heinous stuff, which would be us and our allies are usually the worst defenders.
And then everyone else in the world is kind of just trying to get along.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
And then we kind of go along and wreck stuff.
It's hard for us to comprehend a world where us or the proxy state or our ally where they don't control everything.
Because that's been the history of the last hundred or so years, right?
Every single country that we've been allied with or that's been our friend, they've kind of had the colonial power or institution or gravitas to get done whatever they wanted to get done.
And we're entering into a new world where cooperation is going to have to be.
tim tompkins
Yeah, because here's the thing before the U.S., who wasn't, who was in charge?
Right.
The British.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
And the British in America are basically two sides of the same of the same coin when it comes to colonialism and all the different things that we've done.
The moment we stop having the identity politics beyond, like, again, are we not under the guise that if we can be brainwashed by our own government to believe specific systems that an entire population in the Middle East with Iran, they're brainwashing their people.
Israel, they're brainwashing their people.
And it's all propaganda at the end of the day to enrich the people who are pushing these agendas.
Netanyahu does not speak for the people.
rex jones
I think he kind of does, man.
tim tompkins
He's widely unpopular.
We cannot.
rex jones
Everyone says my dad says that.
tim tompkins
He is widely unpopular.
rex jones
Why has he been elected multiple times in office?
Because coalition, X, Y, no, no, no.
tim tompkins
He is now.
I'm saying before he was, he was somewhat popular.
He got in.
And then now he's at the lowest levels of popularity since he's been elected.
And he hasn't gotten kicked out because he's doing the same Ukrainian shit.
rex jones
He's not unpopular because they want him to stop the killing or stop the war.
He's unpopular because he didn't get all the hostages back.
That's why they're mad at him.
tim tompkins
Well, they were mad at him before that even happened, by the way.
rex jones
He was the corruption.
tim tompkins
Yes, he was.
He was on the thin ice before that.
rex jones
My point with all this, we're going to get into supplements real quick.
My point with all this is how are, and we get into it with Trump Mandani and all of it.
How are any of these governments seen as legitimate?
How are any of them seen as legitimate?
tim tompkins
That's what I'm saying.
rex jones
It's literally like, oh, like we made up the rules on a napkin and we're just hanging out and like we pretend to fight in front of the cameras.
And then we're just like, what kind of deal are we going to make today?
And that's not what people voted for.
That's not why they were elected.
That's not their job.
Their job is to serve the American people and do what the American people elected them to do.
And we're going to get into supplements.
I just, I have to reiterate this.
The reason why I harp on hating on Trump and I do it a lot and I do it frequently and I do it with fervor.
The reason why is because it's not like a Joe Biden or a Kamala Harris where I was against their policies and they're in office.
So I just I hate it by default.
I get that.
This is about, I believed in this dude.
I told people to vote for this dude and every day.
tim tompkins
Gave him your $50.
rex jones
Every day, me and Tim sit in here and review the latest bullshit, complete, contrived, white rabbit, out of a hat story that he comes up with to distract from his failing jobs numbers, his failing economic numbers, the ongoing wars.
And we have to hear about the fucking peace prize.
And then the peace prize.
Oh, it's so legitimate.
The lady that gets it says it should go to Trump.
Like it's all I got the award, but it should go to Twump because he's the best.
It's like Dora the Explorer level plotline.
Like it really is.
It's really, really, really bad.
unidentified
It's bad.
rex jones
And you can predict things just because of like, oh, this thing was horrible and crazy.
The next thing's going to be five times worse.
And that's all we've seen during, you know, the last year.
And that's just.
I'm not trying to be a doomer.
I'm not trying to be blackpilled, but we have just, we've seen too much of it, even just in the 20-something episodes.
tim tompkins
My ultimate thing to fix all of this is you replace all of these governments, man.
That's like the only way.
rex jones
Yes.
Socialist world empire.
tim tompkins
It's just like, no, but the global cooperation is the only way that this actually all works.
The thing is, is we have, if you looked at my last segment, we have an international chain that works for the people.
And why I can get a tomato for 97 cents is because of that global cooperation, because the standardization of all these countries creating the same systems so that they're interchangeable.
rex jones
And everybody, I think the tariffs in the future will be seen as just like insane.
Like, what was this?
I think we're truly going to see that kind of response, not even because of the implementation necessarily, but the randomness and the severity.
tim tompkins
Well, the only way you can do this is like, if China stops like, okay, the thing about China is that, and not to get in the rabbit hole, they don't allow certain companies there like we allow here.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
It's not easy.
rex jones
It's called like a blue hat license.
tim tompkins
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
rex jones
I looked into it.
tim tompkins
So there are certain things that like, it's not a two-way street.
And countries like China would have to allow, you know, American companies the same freedoms as we allow Chinese companies here.
You know, we allow them to buy our land.
You know, and in China, it's illegal, you know, for us to be able to do something like that.
But that's, that's the only way that the full global cooperation works because that's the whole reason why tariffs exist, because the American companies don't get the same ability to compete in China, get business there as they would here as well.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
So it is.
rex jones
But it's a tax on the citizenry and what the citizenry use.
tim tompkins
Well, tariffs, tariffs are a good thing if used properly.
They just haven't been used properly in the more recent years.
There are case scenarios where there are good tariffs that have created a nice balance.
rex jones
Well, you know, we got it.
We got into it.
We talked about politics.
We're going to go into the prepared segment.
Now, this is the first one that I've prepared.
So you may see me look off screen at certain points because I'm getting into the details of my nutshaw of the information.
I basically know what I want to tell you guys tonight, what I want to explain to you because I'm very deep into supplements and nutraceutical knowledge in general.
And I've been doing it for basically the past decade, maybe even a little bit more time because I started doing this when I was like nine, 10 years old.
And the thing you have to understand about nutritional supplements is that they are food.
It is a food product that you are taking.
And these things are generally split into two different categories.
You have things which are true foods, as I would call them, right?
And these are the vitamins and minerals that you need that most of us are deficient in.
Now, you may say, oh, I eat my fruits and veggies.
I should have a good diet.
I should have the right mineral numbers.
And then people go get tested and get their, you know, their food sources tested.
They realize the quality of minerals in our fruits, veggies, things that are grown over the years because of farming and industrial farming and the way that it's done.
The soil is so depleted that all the numbers and daily values that you see, they're from like the 70s and the 80s.
And they haven't been updated forever because they don't want to do the testing.
They don't want to realize how bad the situation truly is.
And I'm not saying there aren't health benefits to eating healthy.
Of course there are.
But the main thing you have to understand with supplementation, day one, as cautious as you're going to be, the most cautious possible, someone like Tim, who didn't have his first drink until he was like 22, 23 years old.
23, baby.
First thing you have to understand, number one, even if you don't want to dabble into, you know, the more phytochemical, like plant chemical side of supplementation, which is still food, and I'll get into that.
There are things that you're lacking in your modern diet.
There are real things that everyone knows this kind of vaguely.
They know to take the multivitamin, maybe, and to try to supplement with a few things.
There are a few things that are really, really key to health, to male health specifically, to mental, cognitive, and physical performance that just aren't talked about.
We're going to get into that a lot in this stream.
We're going to get into it in the future.
But I just wanted to explain really quick that first category, that true food category, that is just vitamins and minerals.
And that is stuff that is sold at HEB, sold at CVS, sold at Walmart, anywhere you can get it.
And there are a lot of things like everyone should take a little bit of vitamin C. Everyone should take a little bit of NAC.
Everyone should take a little bit of magnesia, right?
These are things that people generally know, but they don't necessarily know why they're good for them.
It's good for you because it's food.
It's stuff that you should already have in your diet, but you don't get into any of it.
Now, I want to get into the second category, all right, which are plant drugs, as I call them.
And, you know, I'm not supposed to call them drugs.
It's not medical advice.
I'm not talking medical here.
This is just me pontificating on a topic.
Or phytochemicals.
They're compounds inside various herbs.
Most of them classified as adaptogens, classified as functional mushrooms.
And what these plant drugs do is mechanism of action, just like, you know, anything that would be pharmaceutical or over-the-counter or holistic in nature.
All these herbs, all drugs kind of work in the same way.
They act on different receptors in your body and they do different things.
Now, one of the things we're going to talk about tonight, something that we're selling very specifically is oshwaganda.
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All right.
rex jones
And everyone knows about ashwagandha.
It's referred to as the king of the adaptogens, basically, right?
But what ashwagandha does is it modulates cortisol.
All right.
And we're going to get into the minutiae of how it does that and why it does that.
But you got to understand there are other herbs.
There are things like berberine.
What does berberine do?
It's a glucose disposal agent.
So you eat a lot of carbs.
You take berberine.
The carbs are more evenly distributed.
You don't have as big an insulin spike.
You're able to dispose of that excess glucose.
And there are hundreds, even thousands of different herbs with all these different properties.
The reason why we chose oshwaganda specifically was because of how time-tested it was, because the studies on it were so powerful.
We're going to get into the results and some graphs with you guys, but mainly because we knew it would work for people.
Now, Tim, what is your experience looking into supplements?
What was it like for you to try PowerPlant?
And why are you excited about the stuff we have coming down the line?
tim tompkins
Yeah, prior to taking PowerPlant, very skeptical, as I had mentioned at the beginning of the show.
The whole age of 23, not having my first drink was for various reasons, but ultimately I am very conscious about what I put in my body.
And most of the supplements that I see have these crazy concoctions and mystery stuff.
And just like after taking the COVID, getting forced to take the vaccine and just seeing what it did to my body, I also became even more skeptical.
So for you, when you broke it down for me, what was in PowerPlan at the time?
And then I put it through ChatGPT, I put the label and I had it verify, okay, well, let me check and see like what's in this.
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Right.
tim tompkins
And ultimately, all the ingredients were found in their natural elements.
And it was like, well, there's no issue with taking there's no contraindication.
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Right.
tim tompkins
And then I, what really put it into perspective is like, you know, the Red Bull that I drink has way more shit in it.
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Right.
rex jones
That's actually a supplement formula all on its own.
jonathan pollard
Right.
tim tompkins
But it's just in a cool drinking form where Red Bull gives you wings.
rex jones
But you see that they're both food.
tim tompkins
Right.
rex jones
And that's how it's done.
tim tompkins
Right.
rex jones
So like one of the main requirements for your supplement is that it can have contraindications.
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Right.
rex jones
And like, that's why things that have like an MAOI effect, things like St. John's board, they actually have to be classified and labeled differently.
And this is part of the industry.
But just getting into what those kind of true foods do for you.
They build your hormones.
They maintain your electrical gradients, meaning the electron transport chain within the cell and within the mitochondria.
They stabilize enzymes, they repair tissue, they produce ATP, and they help detoxify reactive oxygen species.
Now, let's talk about reactive oxygen species for a second.
And this is going to be a deep dive.
We're going to do a full hour on this stuff.
It's going to be really fun.
And look, if this isn't your cup of tea, I understand you're not going to get a better education on supplements and what they are anywhere else.
And next time someone talks to you about supplementation or asks you about it, you'll actually have an explanation as to what it is.
And I think that that's super, super important.
And that's what I'm trying to give to you guys here tonight.
So the thing is, if you don't have these critical cofactors, if you don't have these critical minerals, then your body cannot complete the enzymatic cellular processes to get a healthy, you know, optimally functioning machine type of result.
Like magnesium, which we have in the mineral blend, magnesium is responsible for over 300 enzymatic processes within the body.
And most people are deficient.
tim tompkins
Probably deficient.
rex jones
And this is what I tell people: like, number one, very simple things like magnesium.
Are you taking something with magnesium in it?
It's essential for sleep.
It's essential for bowel movements, hormones, everything, free testosterone.
I'm going to show you a study in here later that shows like a 15 or 20% increase in free testosterone when working out and taking magnesium.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
So like there are all these different things and there are all these little benefits that you get to kind of stack on top of each other.
And someone that's not experienced with supplementation might go, oh, you know, I'm not going to see that much of a benefit or result from this.
I'm kind of skeptical.
I'm just trying something.
It's probably going to be placebo effect.
I am telling you, Tim, you've heard people call into the show, right?
tim tompkins
Yeah, they always talk about the magnificent things that supplements you get.
rex jones
And I mean, the thing is, it's not that the supplement is so powerful.
It's like making your body act like it's not like you're taking super soldier serum.
What it is usually is the minerals in whatever blend they're taking, not even the adaptogens, although sometimes reactive oxygen species environment, it could be the adaptogen.
A lot of the time, the mineral just fixes the deficiency.
But getting into reactive oxygen species.
So we talk about methylene blue a lot.
We're not selling methylene blue here.
Well, let me give you a basic example.
The mitochondria, it goes to produce ATP.
The first stage of that process, it creates something called superoxide, which is the most dangerous free radical, makes more free radicals, goes everywhere in the body, right?
That's going to happen regardless.
That's a part of cellular metabolism.
That's a part of living and dying.
We all get older, we all die.
And the more ROS, reactive oxygen species we incur, and there's all different kinds of them that come from inflammation, stress, you name it, the more of those we build up over time, the cell eventually hits something called its Hayflick limit, which is it gets up to 48 divisions and then it dies or right.
But it doesn't die.
It stays alive.
Like the lights are on, but no one's home.
It's a senescent cell now.
And all it does is pump out those inflammatory biomarkers, right?
So the key thinking about supplementation is now the key thinking about modern healthcare and how to approach longevity in general.
And basically what it comes down to is the podcast bros were right, Tim.
They were pretty much right the entire time.
It's about reducing your inflammation.
It's about reducing mitochondrial damage and it's about reducing senescent cells by living healthy, by going to the sauna, by taking supplements, by exercising, you name it.
Basically, by being and living healthier, you reduce these biomarkers.
And therefore, it's pretty much theoretically been shown that you live longer, right?
And like that makes sense, right?
Oh, I need to live healthier.
So I'm not going to die.
I need to get in shape so I'm not going to die, right?
Well, what does that mean?
Need your mitochondria to be healthy.
You need your cells to be healthy.
You can't have these senescent cells.
A lot of the times people will take something like an ashwagandha and they'll notice, hey, my knee pain, my back pain, it's less bad.
What is this?
What's going on?
It's not that you had any specific injury or anything going on.
This is indisputable science.
This is known.
You have senescent cells in different areas of your body and they just, they pump out the inflammatory markers.
tim tompkins
I got a question for you because now you've got me thinking.
rex jones
Absolutely.
tim tompkins
In the normal person's diet, and I'll include myself in here, more often than not, depending on what our diet is and what we're eating, most people are not getting enough of the nutrients that they need on just what like God-given plants, fruits, the things that should have provided that.
And that's because like those are honestly for me, the only reason why sometimes it's just hard to like go to the grocery store and like prep and eat in the morning.
Like I'm not, I'm not a person who eats in the morning.
It's very hard for me.
So is that part of the thing that's leading to some of these deficiencies?
Cause we're not consuming enough of the thing that's actually supposed to give it to us.
rex jones
It's harder to find in the natural foods.
You have to eat a lot more of it.
You have to be a lot more prepared.
And basically at this point, like there are things that you kind of have to supplement, right?
Like someone like you, you make less vitamin D3, right?
Like people of like more pigmentation, more melanin, you make like 70, 80% less vitamin D. You have to take it supplementally.
The number's like 90% deficiency.
tim tompkins
What's the thing that gives me vitamin D normally?
Is it sunlight or is it milk?
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Is it what is it?
rex jones
So it's very, it's very interesting.
The reason why white people are white is not actually a sunlight exposure thing.
It's a dietary issue, right?
So when people moved up to Europe, people started eating more like plant matter and whatnot, and they started agriculture more.
Whereas down in Africa, people are eating more meat.
Basically in the organ meats, that's where you find things like vitamin D, vitamin A. There wasn't that in the food.
So people became paler.
Does that make sense?
tim tompkins
Like an evolutionary.
rex jones
Yeah, that's that.
That's microevolution.
That's established.
That's how we know that.
And there's, there's gene science to prove that.
But basically, different populations of people all have different needs.
You specifically, I would heavily recommend vitamin D.
And that's why it's in our new formula because I'll be taking it.
Yeah, it addresses a whole bunch of issues, guys.
And not to get too into the nitty-gritty, but basically all these gene pathways, all these things that modulate differently.
Different people have good and bad methylation genes.
Different people can drink and cannot drink.
It all comes down to the science.
But essentially, whatever your system is, you can make your system run better by giving it the optimal fuel it needs.
And that's what we've done with these blends.
Now, ashwagandha specifically modulates the HPA axis, which is the hypothalamary pituitary axis, the HPA for short.
It's a real tongue twister.
I don't like to say it.
It alters cortisol dynamics and it shifts the anabolic catabolic balance.
It increases testosterone, enhances mitochondrial function, and improves physical performance.
They're not nutritional roles.
These are regulatory interventions and that comes from lowering that cortisol, right?
So cortisol is the stress hormone.
It gets released due to high stress environment, all these things.
I looked it up.
I looked up the actual biomarker.
CRH, corticotropin-releasing hormone, and those come from neurons in your brain.
That's sent to your pituitary.
And then adrenocorticotropin hormone is released.
And that's what cascades down into cortisol, right?
So ashwagandha inhibits those CRH neurons.
And that's what's really powerful and important to understand about ashwagandha.
tim tompkins
Yeah, my mom is a psychologist.
And one of the things that she recommended to my sister was to take ashwagandha because of its properties.
And I didn't even know my mom knew about ashwagandha, which is crazy.
rex jones
Right.
Right.
Talk a little bit more about that.
I'm trying to find something really quick.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
I mean, the whole thing, like she isn't one of those psychiatrists that prescribes people with like, you know, antidepressants and crazy pharmaceutical things.
She always provides like either natural solutions or she just says like lifestyle changes.
She always goes with lifestyle changes first.
Like if you're stressed out, go and handle what's causing the stress first and then implement something else on top of it.
But like the ashwagandha was something that she knew was completely natural and recommended to, you know, not just my sister, but like myself and some other people as one of those things to help take down the edge.
Cause at the end of the day, it is, it is stress is a normal thing in life.
rex jones
Yeah, no, 100%.
And what happens with stress is when you encounter stressor, the hypothalamus signals the pituitary gland, and then it signals the adrenal glands to release the cortisol.
And that's what I was talking about earlier.
The chronic stress, the hypothalamus releases more and more CRH, which is the corticotropin releasing hormone.
The pituitary releases ACTH.
The adrenal glands produce the cortisol.
Then ashwagandha, its mechanism of action where it comes in to help blunt this, reverse it so you can have a more healthy environment, skewed more towards anabolism, which would be growing muscle and being fit versus catabolism, which is breaking down tissue and being weak.
It decreases the CRH release in the hypothalamus.
It reduces ACTH secretion from the pituitary and it directly lowers cortisol output from the adrenal cortex.
So when you're talking about something, you blunt stress.
tim tompkins
Can we scroll down here?
Yeah, I want to show people where ashwagandha actually comes from.
This is something we wanted to include on the website here so that people knew what the root is because the whole thing of our product is to talk about ancient remedies.
So ashwagandha is derived from ancient Sanskrit.
And that's basically the thing of like Indian origin.
So ashwagandha, this does come from India.
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Right.
rex jones
And all these herbs, they come from either traditional Chinese medicine or they come from Indian medicine.
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Right.
tim tompkins
So ashwa means horse and then gandha means essence or smell.
So this is the root that's said to grant the power of the horse.
So people used to use this thousands of years ago in the ancient medicine that you can see here.
And they were taking these for like 3,000 years.
This is something that was already built and we're just taking it and giving it to you in a modern way.
And that was the thing that was beautiful.
rex jones
And the thing to understand about this, this is the most popular supplement on the market.
Look, we're doing this and we want this to be successful.
We wanted to bring people the best thing possible.
We kicked around a lot of different ideas.
Ultimately, bar none, like Nick Fuentes takes ashwagandha.
Everyone takes ashwagandha.
Everyone talks about it.
This is the most popular over-the-counter supplement.
I mean, if I go to the supplement aisle, HEB, and I'm just trying to look for something or grab something, single ingredient formula, whenever I see the ashwagandha, it's always almost off the shelf because people know how good it is.
tim tompkins
Now, can you explain the KSM66?
Because there is not all ashwagandha is built.
rex jones
Now, I was going to wait a little bit to do that, but I can go ahead and get into that now.
The important thing to understand about the KSM66 is I talked at the beginning of this whole rant about the boomer selling the supplements and they're too expensive and we're offering greater, like a greater return on your investment, essentially, when you choose to buy a product at Primal Core or GoPrimalCore.com.
There are benefits to getting trademarked ingredients because some of these extracts have been around for so long and are so tested.
And the meta-analyses, not even the studies, the meta-analyses on these specific extracts that have been trademarked.
I mean, when you look at KSM66, I'm going to read some of these claims out to you and you can look at the studies yourself and I'll show them and I'll in the comments after this video, I'm going to link some of them.
You're going to be amazed at just the percentage increases that you're going to see.
They took a group of untrained people and they had them start on the same strength training program, right?
Now you say untrained, newbie gains, that makes sense.
I get it.
The placebo group had the newbie gains too.
You got two people working out.
It's 30 and 30, the study.
And the group that took the ashwagandha, they progressed double and they had a 76% increase on their bench press compared to the placebo group.
Now, how is it doing that?
It's lowering the cortisol.
So it's creating a more muscle-friendly environment, more anabolic environment, and it's raising testosterone at the same time.
So by blunting stress and raising testosterone, you really have this athletic panacea that's also a cognitive and anotropic aid.
It's really all in one.
It's a very, very fascinating compound.
I mean, it does a lot of things, right?
So cortisol breakdown on this.
Cortisol's primary role during stress is to mobilize your energy reserves, right?
So like you're stressed, you're in a survival situation, you got to fight, you got to run, you got to be able to do XYZ.
So your cortisol goes up, right?
It achieves this by promoting catabolism or the breakdown of complex molecules like your muscle protein that you would like to keep on you as much as possible, right?
It breaks down the muscle protein into the amino acids, which are used by the liver for gluconeogenesis, where they create glucose for the brain and the body.
This process is highly anti-anabolic.
It directly works against muscle building and repair.
And beyond even that, this isn't in what I prepared, but this from the top of my head, cortisol also increases your fat.
Hold on to your stored energy.
So you're, it's literally in a catabolic state and having high cortisol is probably the worst thing you could have happen to your body, right?
Now, I'm holding on to fat and then you're burning muscle.
tim tompkins
I don't want to correlate it, but is that like sometimes like people who are under high levels of stress, not only just the diet, but the stress itself contributes to you just gaining weight or just like 100%.
rex jones
And the thing is, you could be at near caloric maintenance or even in a deficit.
But if you're in a deficit and you're in a catabolic state, your body's going to be burning off the muscle and trying to keep the fat.
That's totally skewed.
And why ashwagandha is so important is it comes in there and it flips the script on that whole thing, where instead of low testosterone, high stress, you have low stress, high testosterone.
And that's really how you have to think about this ingredient.
And it's great for women too.
The studies on women and testosterone show it's not statistically significant.
And how this works is it actually stimulates the Sertoli cells, your LADIC cells in your nuts, ladies and gentlemen, in your balls.
It stimulates them to produce more testosterone as a byproduct of it relaxing the HPA.
The HPA is also referred to as the HBTA.
The T stands for testicular, right?
So it's all wrapped up in the pituitary.
And that's what you have to understand.
Oshwagandha takes you from high stress, low testosterone to low stress, high testosterone.
And that's why it's the perfect supplement ingredient, especially if you're getting into it.
You want to try something first.
This is tested for safety.
They got 16, 18, 12-week studies on people taking double, triple the doses that you're going to take, even if you take a high dose with us, right?
So the safety is there.
The strength of the ingredient is there.
The data is there.
And you don't have to just believe us talking about it on live.
You can go do your own research.
The thing that blows my mind is ashwagandha is incredible.
There's all these other amazing compounds and plant phytochemicals that we're going to bring to market eventually.
No one knows about this stuff.
And when asked about a supplement or what it is, but do you understand?
Now it's a bioactive plant chemical that goes in and modulates something to your advantage, basically.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
I didn't know anything about ashwagandha when we first started and when it was exposed.
And I just saw the research and everything that went into like how the stuff is made and how it's sourced.
I was like, wow.
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Right.
tim tompkins
So I'll be taking, I will literally be taking all of this stuff right alongside you guys.
Like I'm not one of those people that likes to do it.
rex jones
We're going to do a whole bunch of runs where we get people.
And hey, if you order from us, ooh, look, incredible.
Please order from us at goprimalcore.com.
Try the ashwagandha, try the combo pack, try the multi-mineral, what do we call elemental drive?
tim tompkins
Yeah, can we throw up the code for them?
rex jones
No, 100%.
Is that going to be on the main page?
tim tompkins
But I'll show you in a second.
rex jones
We're going to go ahead.
tim tompkins
Sorry, guys.
rex jones
But go ahead and place an order.
If you get it, go ahead and leave a comment.
I'll follow you and I'll DM you and we'll do a testimonial after 30 days after you've started taking this.
I know Tim is going to have a phenomenal effect.
I know I've tried this in the past.
I'll be on it again.
I know I'm going to have a phenomenal effect.
It's something that I think everyone's going to benefit from.
tim tompkins
And it's not a stimulant, right?
So you do need time for it to actually work in your system.
It's not like methylene where you're just going to feel it the next day, correct?
rex jones
Well, no, actually.
And we'll get into that.
Go ahead and play the thing really quick.
tim tompkins
Okay, guys, we'll be right back.
This bottom left corner is going to have the code.
And you can also scan this.
If you're on your TV, you can scan this with your QR code.
You get a 25% off.
We're going to be running this during the presentation.
rex jones
And really quick, we appreciate you bearing with us.
We appreciate you indulging us by watching the ad.
Look, just check this out.
See if it's something you're interested in.
See if it is.
just go to the website and see if it's something you're interested in.
All right, we're back now.
And I just want to say, I went on Twitter to just like say, check out the, check out the store and that you're on bathroom break or whatever.
And I saw someone say, like, it's snake oil.
Your body can't absorb.
That's bullshit.
That's complete bullshit.
I mean, the studies are there.
We're literally offering it to you in the same form, studied, tested as like the peer-reviewed journals and meta-analysis offer it.
Your body can absorb it.
You can look up the bioavailability of all these compounds.
It's publicly available.
It's all real.
So like, my thing is, I get defensive about the snake oil thing because, like, have you not been to a grocery store?
Have you not been to a Whole Foods and HEB?
tim tompkins
I literally just thought about that today.
I went into the HEB and I just looked at the shelves and I just saw all the bullshit that was on that shelf.
rex jones
Bullshit.
tim tompkins
No, the bad stuff that was on the shelves.
All the stuff, like there was like twinky Cheeto.
Yeah, it was like the amount of stuff that was in there.
It was like, oh.
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Right.
rex jones
But you also got the supplement aisle in there, man.
And you've got people that have been going in there for decades and decades and decades, buying stuff and getting health benefits.
I mean, just throwing this out, we don't even sell it CoQ10.
You take 300 milligrams of CoQ10 and it increases your heart ejection fracture by almost 4%.
That's statistically significant.
That's something they recommend people take before heart surgery.
Oh, it's all bullshit.
It's snake oil.
Like, no, it's not.
It's real.
And that's why people are invested in it.
So I want to get into this more because you talked about cortisol and you posed the example of, hey, someone being really stressed out.
Maybe that's why they're overweight, not necessarily because of diet or exercise.
They're in kind of a bad metabolic environment.
So let's get into that a little bit, right?
tim tompkins
Okay.
rex jones
So excessive cortisol levels, often seen in chronic stress or overtraining, can directly suppress the hypothalamic, pituitary, gonadal access, which is the system responsible for regulating testosterone production.
This is often referred to as the hormonal seal or suppression due to the stress response dominance.
Both cortisol and testosterone are steroid hormones derived from cholesterol via the same complex pathway of steroidogenesis.
Vitamin D3 also involved in that process.
You have to have it for steroidogenesis.
Wow.
Like that's why that's super important.
Just a little tangent.
When your body is under chronic stress, the pathway preferentially shunts resources towards the production of cortisol instead of testosterone, even at its expense.
tim tompkins
Wow.
rex jones
So you see how important changing that ratio is, right?
And that's why Ashwagandha, mechanism of action, it blunts cortisol.
That's what it does.
It's also got some antioxidant properties, which are great for overall health.
As we talked about, the reactive oxygen species in the senescent cells, that's important too.
That's just kind of a sidekick thing.
This is something that lowers that cortisol.
tim tompkins
This is actually getting me really excited.
rex jones
By reducing excessive cortisol secretion through HPA access modulation, reducing that CRH and ACTH and direct adrenal output, Ashwagandha achieves two performance enhancing effects.
It minimizes catabolism, number one.
That's number one.
Lowers cortisol, means less muscle protein breakdown.
And that ensures the body remains in a more anabolic state, allowing muscle repair and growth to occur more efficiently.
This is crucial for recovery after intense resistance training.
And this is something like people that train all the time, they know.
They know this is something to take.
If they're getting beat up or whatnot, they know this is something that'll amp them back up.
And consequentially, allowing testosterone to rise by relieving the suppressive and competitive pressure of high cortisol, ashwagandha allows that HPG access to function optimally, leading to measurable increases in total serum testosterone and its precursor, DHEA.
That shows it's upstream action, right?
It's not just making you crank out more testosterone by acting on those Sertoli or Leydic cells that I talked about.
It's through the brain.
This is a pituitary thing, particularly in stressed or strength training individuals.
So if you're working really hard, this will really help you.
And that's like, we're making things here for people that work hard.
We're making things here for people that want to optimize their lifestyle.
We're making things here for people that want to win.
Do you want to win?
Do you want the most studied, the most time-tested, time-honored, time-proven compound that you can get?
It's the ashwagandha.
And we got it available on sale.
I think it's like 30% off.
tim tompkins
Yeah, 25.
rex jones
25% off.
That's an incredible.
tim tompkins
But you can get 30% off if you do the one month.
You get it basically once a month.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
30% off.
That's basically like 25 bucks, essentially.
And you're basically re-upping essentially every month.
And you're going to get this every single month, even if you run out if you take it every single day.
rex jones
Right.
And let's get into these numbers because the studies are ridiculous.
All right.
You got a 74% greater increase in the bench press strength.
I talked about that study group.
Got 62% greater increases in arm muscle cross-sectional area, like how thick the arm is.
Roughly two times faster progression curves compared to match controls.
Now, they had two groups of people run a strength training program for everybody, it's like 12 or 16 weeks, right?
And at the end of the study, the people that took the ashwagandha, they had nearly double the results of the people that didn't.
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Think about that.
Think about that.
rex jones
And this is from a journal.
This has been peer-reviewed.
And this is in a meta-analysis.
This is as real as you're going to get, right?
Aswagandha's catabolic cortisol reduction also removes inhibitory pressure on lytic cells, which is why trials report 10 to 22% increases in total testosterone and significant elevations in free testosterone, often in the 15 to 25% range.
That is huge.
And when we start talking about the mineral blend, when we start showing the graphs and start showing the information about just how many of these benefits you can stack on top of each other, and they all got separate mechanisms of action, right?
We're not like cranking one dial to 100.
We're cranking a lot of dials just a couple notches up to where they naturally should be.
And that's how you get the holistic effect that lasts and doesn't go away.
And this is so key for people to understand.
You look for a shortcut.
You look for a cheat code.
You look for something that's going to work right now.
Sure, there are things like that that exist, but they're very expensive on your health because they're not healthy by their nature.
Sure.
Right.
This is something that literally puts your body in a healthier environment.
tim tompkins
I like that.
rex jones
Does that make sense?
tim tompkins
Oh, it makes sense.
rex jones
Does that make sense for the audience?
And like I pontificate about this.
I go on Infowars 2 and I plug and I talk about supplements.
I do it because I believe in them and I take them and I love them and I think you should take them too.
And I think if you did the research, which is why we're walking through the research tonight on the show, which is why we're talking about it, if you look this stuff up, I mean, look, just become a believer because like this is the trend.
This is the future of modern health.
This is what everyone talks about.
And this is one of the number one compounds you're going to find.
Now, recovery and tissue damage, this is a huge thing, right?
People, you know, trying to work out really hard, New Year's resolution, trying to get in shape.
Oftentimes they get in that environment that cortisol, that stress peaks, they're not used to it.
Boom, you burn out.
This stuff, 20, 30% lower post-exercise CK level.
I believe that's a fatigue score.
Significantly reduced DOM's duration, right?
So you're sore less, right?
And that's got a lot to do with the antioxidant property.
Noticeably faster session to session recovery.
Athletes often report this by week two.
Lower cortisol, lower systemic stress, lower inflammatory load, higher training density, because your body is not having to fight against a negative environment.
It's having to fight against the positive stressors that you are giving it.
That's the key.
I know I'm saying the same thing here, but we got to walk through it over and over and over again.
Do you understand how powerful this is?
Because if it's able to blunt the cortisol, a thing that's elevated in all of our lives due to a variety of factors, if it's just able to do that, it'll put you in the positive atmosphere you need to be in to succeed in exercise and just in work in general.
This is a nootropic too.
It's lowering that stress.
It's lowering that anxiety.
This is a key thing to think about, right?
It modulates the GABA receptor, but it doesn't bind to it directly like menzodiazepines do.
It has a different mode, right?
So this has actually been shown in long-term trials to not have suppression of that, which is very important.
You don't want to over modulate GABA, but this is one of those plant compounds like apigenin, which is found in chamomile, which seems to do that in a safe way.
I mean, people drink chamomile tea all day, right?
unidentified
Yep.
rex jones
So we talk about these things.
It's very important to understand, especially if you're risk adverse, right?
Because we got to walk through how safe it is.
Cardiorespiratory output.
Oshwagandha improves mitochondrial efficiency and autonomic balance, which shows up as a 7 to 14% increase in your VO2 max.
Anyone that's an athlete, anyone that's done sports, they know how important that figure is right there.
All right.
Higher tolerance for threshold level work, better maintenance of output under fatigue conditions.
And this is typical for a lot of adaptogens that modulate stress signaling and ATP turnover.
This doesn't have to do necessarily with the cortisol.
This has to do with those antioxidant plant compound properties that we talked about about other ingredients as well.
And you got better maintenance of output under fatigue conditions, right?
Body composition.
With cortisol reduced androgen signaling more effective, you get 2.3%, 2.3 times greater reductions in body fat percentage.
This was the craziest thing from the study, right?
tim tompkins
And that comes from that same exercise.
Yeah, I didn't know that.
rex jones
So you got people getting bigger and you got people getting leaner.
And it's not a steroid.
It's something that's existed for thousands of years.
tim tompkins
That's the thing I like because I see people taking shit like Ozempic to try to get results.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
Whereas like taking something that's been around for thousands of years and two times three, two, 2.3 times greater reduction.
I like that.
unidentified
Right.
rex jones
And getting in, again, why we chose the KSM66, right?
We have to use a full spectrum root extract, which is what the KSM66 is.
It's standardized root extract and has to have up to 5% with lanolides in it, right?
It has to be standardized to that 5% because that's what all the studies are standardized on.
That's what the proven data represents, right?
So we got the absolute best form of this possible.
We put it in a capsule.
We made it in America and we're giving it to you.
So again, I'm going to throw up the site really quick.
We're going to get into more here.
I'm not done.
We're going to get into the second formula, which I think is even better, to be honest with you.
I love it.
I fell in love with it.
I kept on, you know, when we first got into this, Tim, I was like, I want to add another ingredient.
I want to add another ingredient.
I want to add another ingredient because I wanted it to be the very best, very best elemental drive multi-mineral product available for cognition, for mental and physical performance.
But we're going to get into that now.
But if you're interested in ashwagandha and you're interested in what I had to say, please check out the ashwagandha, guys.
Please check out this product.
It's discounted right now.
It's $27.
And if you get it and if you message me about it, we'll set up.
We're going to do a bunch of review streams.
And Tim himself is going to take it as well.
And you're really going to see guys.
But let's get in further onto the presentation.
What is Elemental Dry?
What is this product?
This is my favorite.
This is my baby right here.
I love it.
Mechanism of action, restoring critical micronutrients required for antigen output, neural drive, and cellular repair.
This formula right here, this elemental drive formula right here, rebuilds the very micronutrient foundation that should, it's required, all right?
It's required for hormone signaling, mitochondrial output, and tissue recovery.
The same process, a process amplified by the ashwagandha, by the HPA modulation, and deficiencies in these critical minerals in zinc, in magnesium, in selenium, in boron, in copper, and vitamin D3.
Man, you're really getting a lot.
They're all in the most like efficacious forms possible.
And we'll get into that by the way.
These directly impair the enzymes that produce testosterone, not having having deficiencies in these critical minerals, directly impair enzymes that produce testosterone, regulate free testosterone, neutralize oxidative stress, and maintain electrical and neuromuscular efficiency.
You have to have these minerals in their bioavailable forms to achieve these things, right?
So what is zinc, for example?
Zinc increases GNRH, which is gonadotropin-releasing hormone signaling from the hypothalamus.
What does that do?
We just talked about it with the ashwagandha, right?
The ashwagandha releases the stress on the HPTA, and HPTA is able to take the cholesterol that it was going to use to make the cortisol, and it shuttles that towards the testosterone.
So you got an increase there.
And then on top of that, by giving the fuel to the brain to increase the GNRH and to make that hormone, you're getting even more signaling to enhance the LH release, the luteinizing hormone release from the pituitary.
This also drives Leydig cell testosterone synthesis.
Now, I'm going to get into a bit of deep lore here.
And this is probably bad for the viewers or whatever.
You probably won't like it, but I have to nerd out here for a second.
All right.
So you have to understand there are two drugs that are used to help male infertility, right?
And selenium helps male infertility as well.
We'll get into that.
That's also in this formula.
There are two drugs used.
They're called HMG and HCG, right?
HCG, human kinetotropic, gonadotropin, whatever it is, it's the thing that a pregnancy test tests for, right?
So that's the thing.
Like if a girl has it, she's pregnant.
If you have it, it's the signaling to your balls to produce testosterone.
The Sertoli cells, which are not the Leytic cells, those are activated by HMG, and that's the actual growth of the testes.
So this is what you have to understand.
Now, both the Ashwagandha and the zinc increase LH.
They increase luteinizing hormone.
One backstream cascade, the other one, another backstream cascade by increasing the GNRH, signaling from the hypothalamus.
This is like a crazy boost.
We made this.
I made this to be crazy.
Like you start taking this, your testosterone is going to go up.
Like I'm more.
tim tompkins
Can you talk to some of the benefits from having more testosterone as a guy?
Because like the thing is, is like, you know, I can, I'm, I'm following this.
rex jones
100%.
tim tompkins
But just from the bare bones, like having more testosterone, what does that do for me as a man or just in general, as a person who's just trying to like heat?
rex jones
So the, I mean, just compete in life, right?
Both physical and mental.
Testosterone, a lot of people don't know this.
I'll get into the science of it all.
Testosterone is actually a neurotransmitter before anything.
And testosterone's role, and I've heard Dr. Andrew Huberman speak on this, essentially, it makes effort feel good.
It's a dopamine regulation, dopamine modulator.
It's in your brain.
It helps prime your reward system, right?
So if you have low testosterone, it's beyond anything even physical.
You literally have low mental signaling.
You have low levels of this neurotransmitter that you need to function optimally.
tim tompkins
And aren't we at some of the lowest testosterone levels ever?
rex jones
Lowest testosterone levels ever.
And that's because of dietary choices.
That's because of mineral deficiencies.
I'm going to show you a study where people with mineral deficiency took zinc.
Their testosterone went up 90%.
I mean, you can't make this stuff up, guys.
You can't make this stuff up.
It's all backed by the literature.
And you talk about testosterone's benefits.
Physical, you have androgen receptors in your muscle tissue.
You have more testosterone.
You have more androgenic signaling.
You're able to take the protein that you eat and turn it into muscle.
If you have low testosterone and high cortisol, like we talk about, you literally, you can't grow muscle in that environment.
You grow muscle, your body will strip it off for fuel, and then you'll keep the fat because your body thinks you're starving.
So, having high testosterone also really means having low cortisol, right?
Unless you're taking it exogenously, that's what it means, right?
So, these things come hand in hand, and this is why we talk about these benefits, guys.
Zinc is required for multiple very complex enzymatic processes, including 17, beta, hydro, oxysteroid, dehydrogenase, which is the enzyme converting precursors into testosterone.
It's also incredibly essential.
Ooh, this is a big deal for 5-alpha reductase regulation, right?
So, what is 5-alpha reductase?
Testosterone is a very dirty hormone, as in it converts into a lot of different things in your body.
The main things you have to think about are dihydrotestosterone, also known as DHT, and then you've got estrogen, which is created by the aromatase enzyme.
The 5-alpha reductase is what creates the DHT.
DHT can cause things you don't like, like being bald.
I got a lot of it, that's number one, and having body hair, which I also have a lot of, but it's also key for mental and physical drive, exercise performance, and more than anything, erections.
A lot of people don't know this, like they give DHT cream to people that, you know, can't be a lot of people.
I'll just take Viagra.
So, all these things they play critical roles in modulating your hormonal system, right?
And testosterone, it's not just this one thing, it's this one thing, and it's a whole bunch of things, right?
Now, what you'll see with ashwagandha and with these minerals is sustainable increases.
And you also see things like, hey, this formula raises testosterone so much, especially when confined.
Hey, could we worry about excess estrogen?
Maybe you're converting too much too much estrogen because just like the 5-alpha reductase converts into DHT, the aromatase enzyme converts into estrogen.
Hey, it looks like you might raise total testosterone by speculating 50% if you take both these things.
You know, hypothetically, in our world that we're talking about here, if you were to, if you didn't have anything suppressing the estrogen from that, you might have too much estrogen.
Well, we got boron in here, which modulates the aromatase enzyme, which lowers estrogen.
So, it's a complete formula from all angles.
And that's just another ingredient in the elemental drive.
And I want to talk about boron really quick because it's slept on.
Boron is basically the number one thing you can take as a man or as a woman, especially for bone density and collagen synthesis and whatnot.
But as a man for free testosterone specifically, this is something you talk about, you know, Tim, you just threw out the word testosterone.
You asked me about it, right?
When you think of testosterone, you just think about it as a number, right?
unidentified
Yeah, they always just say testosterone count.
tim tompkins
What's your testosterone?
rex jones
Right.
So, you got your total testosterone, which is all the testosterone in your blood, right?
And that testosterone is bound by something called sex hormone binding globulin.
It's also known as SHBG, right?
Your free testosterone number is what's unbound and what's active and able to bind to a tissue and to exhibit its effect, right?
So, we have boron in this formula, which has been shown to increase free testosterone by like 20, 30, 40%, depending on the dose you take.
It's truly insane.
It's truly insane.
And at the same time, it modulates estrogen.
So, it lowers your estrogen.
So, like that, that's literally, that's what you want.
You can't ask for anything better than that.
You literally can't.
Like, come to me and tell me how I could improve this supplement.
This supplement has zinc in it for the testosterone for cognitive benefits, which we'll get into.
It has copper in it because, hey, a lot of people don't know this.
I saw the meme everywhere.
Oh, I'm taking zinc.
I'm gonna have huge loads.
Like, I saw this everywhere on Twitter, everywhere.
People are talking about it.
First off, that's disgusting.
All right.
It's for your wife in your bedroom for your pleasure and whatever.
unidentified
All right.
rex jones
Be nice.
That's number one.
Number two, all these people taking 40, 50 milligrams of zinc, which is way too high.
That's number one.
They're not taking any copper with it.
They're taking it for weeks and weeks, maybe even months on end.
And what that does, a lot of people don't know this because they don't have the supplement knowledge.
This is why it's important to know about all these things in context.
Zinc and copper are both taken out the same way in the gut.
So, if you take all this zinc and you have just normal copper intake, the copper is not going to get absorbed.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
Okay.
That I did.
I remember researching this because the absorption rate and how, like, if you have two things competing for the same thing, it's not just going to all be dragged by one side or the other, essentially.
rex jones
And I did a deep dive on this.
I did my research.
The optimum ratio, if you're going to supplement them together, is 10 to 1.
And what do we have here?
We got like 22 milligrams of zinc biscuit in its highest, most bioavailable form.
We got two milligrams of copper.
Like, bing, bang, boom.
tim tompkins
Yeah, he spent his time.
This is his baby.
rex jones
Just what more do you want?
What, how, how much of a higher level product do you want?
You talk about everything else.
Everyone knows they have to take vitamin D3.
Oh, I got to take my vitamin D.
I got to, it's the winter time.
I got to take my vitamin D, my immune system, not just your immune system, your hormones, your skin, everything else.
It's all reliant on vitamin D.
We talked about it.
All stratagenesis is dependent on it.
At the end of the day, if you're going to take a vitamin D supplement, you might as well take one that has zinc, copper, vitamin D3, magnesium, boron, and selenium all in one in it.
Like, where are you going to find a better thing?
You might find a generic multivitamin that has like 100 different things in it.
And some of the vitamins are in crazy high amounts that you don't want to take.
This is a big news flash.
Next time you look at your multivitamin, you're like, what am I actually taking?
tim tompkins
Yeah, that was a thing I was asking you too before we were formulating all this stuff.
That was a thing that I was afraid of.
I was like, I want to make sure that anything that I'm taking, as well as the people who are going to buy this, they're in safe levels that your body can actually compensate.
Right.
And also, maybe you'll talk about this later, but having multiple of these ingredients layered, because they're single ingredients, they don't, they're not, they're all activating different parts.
So it's not like you're messing your body up.
No, like, cause that's what I see sometimes is like when they combine a bunch of shit in some of these other products.
rex jones
Well, this is stuff systemically you're supposed to have all together anyway.
tim tompkins
Gosh.
rex jones
And that, and that's what's so like you, and I love this.
Tim touches on the safety so much.
Like, that's why we did this.
We wanted to create the safest, highest quality, and strongest because strength appeals to us.
We want this to be strong for you guys.
Wanted to include the best blend possible.
It's not even zinc bisglycinate.
It's even more expensive.
It's zinc picolinate, 25 milligrams.
Boron as boron citrate, 8 milligrams.
Selenium as selenium methionine, 125 milligrams.
I think that's micrograms.
We need to get that type of change.
Maybe a little issue there.
Magnesium as magnesium glycinate, 200 milligram.
Copper, 2 milligrams.
Vitamin D3, 5,000 IU.
That's what you want in any standard vitamin D3 supplement.
It's all there.
And we talk about it more.
I talked about zinc, magnesium.
We got people in the chat saying good things about magnesium.
Magnesium is the core mineral for ATP stability.
So if you're one of the methylene blue people, if you're one of the Shilohy people that's very into and focused on those things, you want something to help your mitochondria even more.
You got to take magnesium consistently.
You might as well take it from us.
It increases free testosterone.
It binds to SHBG.
What I just talked about, that's another thing.
That's a one-two punch.
It also binds to SHBG.
So it increases that free testosterone.
It allows proper relaxing and contraction cycles, reducing peripheral fatigue of muscles.
It reduces cramps, stabilizes ATP at the point of synthesis, improving energy turnover, and 19 to 20% increase in free testosterone with magnesium plus training.
That's magnesium alone, guys.
And then we got all these other layered benefits in here.
I mean, how high do you want to take it?
We can take it so high to the moon.
We can take it literally.
We can take it to the moon with these formulas, Tim.
Significant increases in vertical jump, power output, and peak torque.
Now, is that the magnesium making someone LeBron James?
No, that's a magnesium making someone a more optimal human, right?
Doesn't that make sense?
It's allowing your body to function properly.
So it's not like you're jumping higher.
You're jumping as high as you should.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
Right.
And we think about it in that context.
And it improves sleep and digestion.
It's huge for sleep and digestion, guys, and it supports growth hormone.
Magnesium is an androgen amplifier.
It's incredible.
Boron.
Now, we talked about boron a little bit.
Let's get into it.
You say, what is boron?
Boron's from morons.
What is this thing?
What is this thing?
Boron is the kingpin for reducing sex hormone binding globulin.
It reduces it by 9% to 15%.
And I believe that's quoting the like three milligram number in the study.
I've seen it as high as 30%.
And we'll post links to all these things.
I have them.
Suppresses inflammatory cytokines that impair anrogen receptor sensitivity.
So another thing modulating the testosterone, making it even more effective, it's priming the anergen receptor for the testosterone by reducing any form of inflammation at that site locally.
I mean, like we put the best thing together possible.
Like, I'm not bragging.
I'm going to brag.
You know, I'm going to brag.
Like, these seriously are kick-ass formulas.
And you would have some invalid come up to you with some bottle of something that they've concocted and someone paid, like, they paid someone $12, $15 to make it.
And it'll have a bunch of trademarked ingredients and different names you can't understand.
It's just, look, it's so powerful, bro.
It's shiny, bro.
tim tompkins
Yeah, that's the part that I was, I was super skeptical.
And I was like, we're not doing that.
unidentified
Right.
rex jones
We're not doing that.
You don't have to do that.
We simply have the best product on the market.
That's what this is, this pouch.
That's what this is.
I am so proud of this.
It enhances vitamin D activation, which further drives LH and testosterone production.
Guess what?
We got vitamin D in here.
So you got synergy on like 12 different layers with this formula.
tim tompkins
That's amazing.
rex jones
And we're just going through it over and over and over again.
I'm sorry if it's boring, but just listen to this.
28 to 39% increases in free testosterone within one week of boron repletion.
Take it for one week, 39%, 3,9, 39%, over a third.
If you're at like an eight total T, that could bring you up to like a 12.
That's insane.
That's not heard about anywhere else.
And this isn't a thing that's going to suppress you.
This isn't a thing that's going to like a steroid.
This isn't a thing that's going to hurt your fertility.
This is something you should, this is how you should feel all the time.
Your hormones should be at this level all the time, but we don't get these things in our diet.
10% to 20% increase in total testosterone, sharp reductions in estradiol, that's estrogen up to 39%, improving androgen balance.
That's the key.
You see, like all these things are stacked and layered on top of each other.
Let's talk about selenium.
So what is selenium?
Selenium is a very popular supplement.
A lot of people, you know, they buy selenium at the grocery store and they take it because they know how powerful it is, especially for fertility and all these things.
Why not buy it from us?
If you're taking selenium already, why not buy it from us?
It's required for deiodinized enzymes that convert T4 into active T3.
It protects the testes and lytic cells from oxidative stress, and it supports glutathione regeneration, maintaining redox balance.
Glutathione, the master antioxidant in the body, Tim, can't be made without selenium.
But you literally can't, you can't synthesize it.
So if your body is a lab and your lab, you have to make certain chemicals to survive.
Glutathion is the master antioxidant of the entire body.
And you can't make it right without selenium.
Why are you not supplementing selenium?
Why are you not looking into these ingredients?
Why are you not doing the research?
I understand it's difficult.
It doesn't make a lot of sense.
And it's sort of a thing, act like they have knowledge on it or whatever.
I'm just sitting here as a guy for a decade that has sold these things.
And I can tell you from day one to now, I have never seen a more impressive multivitamin type of formula other than, you know, the elemental drive.
Like this is, it blows my socks off about how good it is because it takes key ingredients that were in a lot of our top selling best InfoWars formulas of all time, and it just puts them all together the way it always should have been.
Right.
Now, I am so proud of these products.
I'm proud of the Ashwagandha, but I'm especially proud of this one.
So let's talk real quick about vitamin D3.
Everyone knows it's amazing.
It's not a vitamin.
It's a steroid hormone, technically kind of like cholesterol in the same way.
That's four carbon rings is what that means, the steroid hormone.
It and cholesterol are responsible for all steroidogenesis in the human body.
It increases LH secretion.
How many of these other ingredients have said that about them, right?
They increase luteinizing hormones.
unidentified
Tons.
rex jones
Tons of them, nearly all of them, right?
It enhances anergen receptor density.
Another thing, modulating energy receptors.
Your testosterone works better.
And it regulates calcium signaling necessary for contraction force and neural drive.
You got to be able to perform well.
You got to be able to lift, right?
And then clinical outcomes, right?
Men supplementing vitamin D3 for 12 weeks show 20 to 25% increase in total testosterone, 15 to 20% increase in free testosterone, strong increases in neuromuscular output and fatigue resistance.
And then we got copper.
And I told you about that.
It's balancing the formula for being heavy on zinc.
We've gone into that.
Let's just, I'm going to read some numbers.
These are just, you know, pie in the sky theoretical projections, right?
And this is just based on the study data.
These are approximations.
These are not medical claims at all.
Total testosterone, it might go up 20 to 32 percent with this blend.
Free testosterone, 25 to 45 percent with this blend.
Sex hormone binding globulin reduction, 10 to 20 percent.
Androgen receptors will be more sensitive.
Neuromuscular improvements with higher peak torque, lower fatigue index, stronger contraction force, better recovery between sets.
This is mineral architecture for your whole system.
And I just going over it again: high stress, low testosterone, low stress, high testosterone.
What road do you want to take?
It's like that meme, right?
You go to the place with the storm and the evil castle or the sunshine and the rainbow.
You want to go to the sunshine and the rainbow.
You want to go to low stress, high testosterone.
unidentified
True.
rex jones
What do you think about what I just said?
My little rant.
What's your opinion?
You got any questions?
tim tompkins
My only question would be the difference between free testosterone and normal testosterone.
The two differences.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
I'm not.
Here's the thing.
I'm the economics money guy.
You know, I'm business.
This is a different world for me, but I am trying to educate myself alongside you guys, which is why I appreciate Rex for doing these deep dives because there's things that I just, I mean, I don't know.
rex jones
You knew the deep dives, man.
This is my first one.
Tim puts in.
Don't, don't, don't tell yourself short.
Like, you're, you're putting in serious work.
I'm proud of you, man.
unidentified
Like, I look, we're proud of each other.
rex jones
It's a wonderful time.
Buy the supplement, please.
It's so incredible.
But seriously, we're having so much fun here.
And it's so fun to put these things together.
I have seen the way you pour over the information and I've had people grumble about it and go, I know X, Y, Z. We're going over these things because people need to know them.
And even if you know them, you need a rehash.
And that's why I did the whole supplement thing.
Do you feel like you know what a supplement is after tonight?
tim tompkins
Yeah, definitely.
I didn't know 95% of the stuff.
unidentified
Right.
rex jones
And it's a thing that people spend a lot of money on.
Really, they do.
People spend a lot of money on supplements and they don't even know the mechanism of action.
They just take it because, oh, it's good.
tim tompkins
Well, yeah, that was the thing for me.
Like when I saw supplements, they always do a very good job of just telling you what the benefits are, but not explaining how it interacts in your body.
And then they don't actually go through the ingredients.
So I like how you're doing this, where you're kind of like, okay, these are the two products that we have, but we're not just telling you guys to just go and buy them like some of these other people.
He wants to educate you on the immediate impact and how it actually interacts with your body.
rex jones
We made these so we could take them ourselves.
Yeah.
That's number one.
That's number one.
I was going to do these formulas anyway.
We were going to do these formulas anyway.
We're bringing them to you because we want to share the wealth, essentially.
Like, this is the best thing you're going to find.
And as far as the studies go, as far as the information goes, as far as the research goes, you can listen to us or you could do it yourself.
You're going to get the same result.
These are incredible compounds.
Yeah.
They really are.
And the deals we're offering and the prices we're offering and things we're going to offer in the future.
I'm really proud of this Primal Core brand.
So let's pat ourselves on the back real quick.
Pat ourselves on the back.
And we, you want to take a couple calls?
tim tompkins
Yeah.
We can definitely take a couple calls.
I'm sweating with a pig here because I'm sure some people have some questions based off of this.
rex jones
Absolutely.
tim tompkins
While I get this set up, guys, I'm going to throw this code back up for you guys so that go to the store, guys.
rex jones
At least check it out.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
You're not going to buy anything.
At least check out what we got there.
And I think you're really going to be really happy.
tim tompkins
We'll be right back.
I just need to pull this up for you guys to get some callers and we'll, we'll pull this up for you guys.
So guys we're back.
I have to throw the number up for you guys.
So bear with me on this.
We're going to throw this number up.
For people who want to call in, what are we trying to do?
Just anything?
rex jones
You know what, guys?
If you got a political anecdote or you got something in the news that you're interested in, tonight's maybe not the show for that.
If you got supplement questions or questions about what we're bringing to market here, we'd love to hear from you.
unidentified
Okay.
rex jones
So here's the thing: we're not pretentious.
We don't believe we're owed anything.
If you would do us the honor of talking to us tonight about maybe supplements, how you feel about them, or something that interested you about what we're offering here tonight, it would to infinity and beyond.
I would love you.
We're going to throw up the number here.
Please join us.
Really appreciate all of you being here with us tonight.
tim tompkins
Thanks, guys.
All right.
rex jones
Welcome, New Groiper.
How are you doing today?
tim tompkins
Only one person called in.
new groyper in south
Hey, man, paying in there.
Another day.
Another day.
rex jones
Or another day, another peso.
tim tompkins
Oh, yeah.
new groyper in south
You know how it goes.
I'm on vacation, man.
unidentified
I'm doing nothing, and it's fantastic.
tim tompkins
You always need a good vacation, man.
What's on your mind?
new groyper in south
So, so I got a question.
So, I need a supplement.
Okay.
unidentified
We'll see.
We'll see.
That does like that is like the opposite of a laxative, specifically with like digestive stuff.
new groyper in south
Um, I don't have a gallbladder anymore.
rex jones
Oh, wow.
new groyper in south
And ever since, yeah, ever since I had to get that removed, things have just been terrible.
unidentified
So, I didn't know if there was a supplement that would be worth taking.
new groyper in south
I tried like some digestive health crap and it did nothing.
rex jones
Yeah, the only thing I can think of, the gallbladder is responsible for a lot of enzymatic processes and whatnot.
You may not be making some digestive enzymes that you were making before.
You should look into Tudka.
It's got a very complicated name.
UDCA is kind of its twin, but it doesn't have the taurine attached to it.
So, the taurine attached to it is a supplement.
The UDCA is a drug.
And the UDCA is the only thing that's approved by the FDA to treat like in-stage cirrhosis of the liver.
And I'm not saying you have that or anything like that, but it's able to like regenerate digestive enzymes that aren't being given from other organs.
So, that might be something to look into.
What do you suffer from when it comes to not having a gallbladder?
Is it overall digestion issues or is it just needing the opposite of a laxative?
This is not medical advice.
new groyper in south
Well, basically, basically, the thing that is the most inconvenient is I can go from fine to I have to use the restroom right now within 30 seconds.
tim tompkins
Right.
new groyper in south
So, I mean, it's just kind of like it just, you know, everything's just kind of instant.
rex jones
That's, you know what?
I'm going to research that and I'll definitely come back to that because that's an interesting question.
You know, I get a lot of questions from people like, hey, spleen, gallbladder, kidney transplant, like XYZ.
And I don't want to even comment or speculate on it because that's not my real knowledge base.
What it comes from me is like people that have unexplained aches or pain, people that have just like bad lifestyle buildup over time.
That's pretty easy to theoretically reverse with proper supplementation and reduction of oxidative stress and all these other inflammatory markers.
For someone like you, I mean, it's really about what job does the gallbladder do?
Where can I find some of that maybe in supplementation?
How can I optimize my current situation?
I mean, I've seen a lot of writing online from people that have had Crohn's.
I've seen a lot of writing for people online that have had these other like inflammatory conditions.
And universally, when they get high-dose antioxidants in the equation, the inflammation goes down, they have a better experience.
So I would just say for you, number one thing to try off the bat, of course, this is just speculation, not medical advice, would be trying just a really intense antioxidant, you know, like taking something for your gut specifically.
And there are things that are active at different portions of the body.
I mean, are you someone that uses melatonin?
unidentified
No, I'm not.
new groyper in south
The only thing I take is ultramethylene blue, man.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
rex jones
Well, I mean, mitochondrial optimization, oxidative stress, that's helping right there.
I would say you should try to find something, an ingredient that has kind of a local action or a metabolic action.
The reason why I bring up melatonin, melatonin and its metabolites are all antioxidants, and it's protective against bladder and rectal cancer because it sits in there all night.
Does that make sense?
So you're able to find things.
unidentified
I've heard some questionable stuff about melatonin, though, prolonged melatonin use.
rex jones
Yeah, that's hokey-pokey.
And I've heard this from everyone.
This is like a big talking point.
They have 300 milligram anal suppositories for people with Parkinson's that they prescribe them for melatonin for lifelong use.
Like it's not a, I understand people worried about suppression of like a natural sleep rhythm or whatnot, but there's a lot of argument as to being on melatonin permanently for some of these like long-term preventative things.
But it's very interesting for sure.
I mean, what do you take?
Did you just take the methylene blue?
Have you taken anything in the past?
unidentified
Yep.
new groyper in south
No, I mean, I take methylene blue and that is about it.
rex jones
You should look into our multi-mineral.
It's really good.
Give you a special caller discount for it.
unidentified
What is what is this?
rex jones
The male mineral blend we went over on the show.
I don't know if you're here or not.
unidentified
Okay.
rex jones
Okay.
new groyper in south
Yeah, no, yeah, I was here.
unidentified
Hold on.
I'm going to go to this website then.
Here, we're just going to pull it up here.
rex jones
Yeah, here, go to the elemental drive.
tim tompkins
This guy here.
rex jones
Yeah, this is like, dude, I've made probably 10 supplement formulas.
I've worked on a dozen of them, maybe more.
This is the one that I'm the most proud of.
If you look at this, I have a stripped-down version of this that's inside of the power plant formula that I gave to the Big Lee people and had them made.
tim tompkins
Yeah, you said this is better than this is a superior version of that.
new groyper in south
Yeah.
rex jones
And I don't want to say superior to power plant, as in power plants got cordyceps in it and it's got some other stuff in it that has other effects.
But as far as a multi-mineral goes, especially for men, you're not going to find a better thing than this.
I mean, our projection showed possible increases of free testosterone up to like 25%.
Like you're not going to find anything better than that.
new groyper in south
Are you guys?
Are you guys considering making this in pill format as well?
rex jones
Yeah, it is in pill format.
unidentified
There are capsules in the bag, but I didn't.
new groyper in south
Oh, yeah, I see now.
tim tompkins
Yeah, they're all capsules.
rex jones
I'm telling you, man, zinc, copper, vitamin D.
tim tompkins
And you can see through the pill.
You can see that it's an actual, like, you can see the compounds in there.
rex jones
It's made on Dallas, too.
It's made locally here in Texas.
unidentified
So it's not made in India, like Turner Carlson's lip pillows.
rex jones
No, it is not.
tim tompkins
Myrica, baby.
rex jones
No, it is not.
Myruka.
new groyper in south
Dude, dude.
Hey.
Yeah, I have to ask, man, because even Christmas cookies are made in India now, dude.
Nothing's like.
rex jones
Now that you said that, I'm going to send you some and you better eat them or else.
tim tompkins
No, the only, and I'll have to, we have to be transparent.
The only ingredient that comes from India is the ashwagandha.
rex jones
That's where you get it.
tim tompkins
Yeah, that's where the plant is.
rex jones
You buy ginseng from China.
You do these things.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
Just the country of origin for that.
tim tompkins
We don't grow ashwagandha here in the United States.
It's impossible to do that.
The environment is not curated for that.
So you have to get it specifically from these regions, but it's all made here specifically.
rex jones
But hey, if you have that bias, if you feel that way, you can buy the male mineral.
And that's not no relation to India.
But hey, I don't hate India.
Buy the ashwagandha.
tim tompkins
So that debate must have got them.
rex jones
Yeah, no, no, no.
new groyper in south
You know, like I said, I'm not, as long as I live, I'm never going to willingly put a product from India into my body.
That's just like asking for tapeworms.
I'm good.
rex jones
Damn.
new groyper in south
I'm good on that.
tim tompkins
You know, I mean, very hot take, huh?
new groyper in south
Go ahead.
tim tompkins
I said very hot take.
new groyper in south
Is it?
I think that's, I think that's lukewarm, bro.
I don't, nobody wants to consume products.
Like, you know, I get it.
Like, Afraganda, I mean, if that's the only place it grows, that's what I'm saying.
tim tompkins
I'll say natural stuff.
Look, the region doesn't matter that much, man.
rex jones
But I see where you're going.
So here's a distinction: right?
There, there are two regions in Indonesia where Tongcat Ali grows.
And there's one version of it that grows in like the northern region, and there's one version of it that grows in the southern region.
And there are fluctuating prices based on that, based on what's going on in that area of the world at the time.
Like, we source these herbs where they come from.
So, like, that's that's what's the biggest thing.
Like, like, that's the thing.
And that's what having like a real original formula is.
It's like, you're just getting what is the highest quality.
tim tompkins
It's like silicon chips.
It's like the, it's like the chips.
You can only get them really from Taiwan because all of that manufacturing is specifically there.
We can't just go and make it here in America and have it.
rex jones
But I understand your point.
I take your point.
What is your biggest, just as a consumer, what is your biggest hurdle to taking a new supplement?
What do you think about?
And just why have you not considered like, obviously, methylene blue is incredible.
You chose that because it works and it works really well.
And you saw people give it rave reviews.
But like, what is your, have you ever gone to the grocery store?
Have you ever picked up a supplement bottle?
Have you ever looked at one and been like, yeah, I might buy this one?
new groyper in south
No, I mean, I mean, not really.
I mean, I just, I just, my goal is, you know, grocery stores are one of the most annoying places on planet Earth.
rex jones
True.
new groyper in south
Especially with like the kids screaming and acting crazy and everybody acting sketchy.
So I just try to, you know, not go.
And if I do, just go and make it quick.
You know, I've taken, I plugged this.
I don't know if you, if you, if you're making a supplement of this, bodies, dude, bodies, when I bought it, I guess probably 2019 and I really liked bodies because I was taking that in official combo back then.
And man, it was great.
rex jones
Dude, I'm sorry, New Groper.
I love you.
You're my favorite caller.
I'm about to have to stick it.
I've got a physical knife through your heart.
I'm sorry.
Are you ready?
I apologize.
new groyper in south
Yeah, they're going away.
rex jones
No, the turmeric in bodies probably came from India.
unidentified
So you have consumed an Indian product.
I'm sorry.
tim tompkins
Yeah, turmeric's literally a lot of people.
unidentified
Listen, we're going to, hey, I'm about to watch a complaint with the InfoWars.
rex jones
I think you can win if you want to.
tim tompkins
You got any Apple products?
new groyper in south
Apple products?
unidentified
Yes.
tim tompkins
Yeah, there's a good chance that some of that comes one of the other things.
rex jones
We're just poking fun.
We're just playing around.
New Groper, like, I'm not trying to sell you too much of this thing.
I just want to introduce these products to people.
Just real quick, we'll end on this.
We'll just get a little political here.
What's on your mind today?
What did you see in the news?
What's driving you crazy?
You're always a fun caller.
new groyper in south
What's you know, my thing is, and I'm going to go here.
We're going to be really spicy.
I'm tired of the women and the politics.
rex jones
Uh-oh.
tim tompkins
MTG got you crazy.
rex jones
Are you mad at MTG for the retired guy?
new groyper in south
This is going to sound bad, but she's a woman, so I expected it.
tim tompkins
Oh, my God.
new groyper in south
So, I mean, like, I'll just let me pose this question real quick.
Name one politician in the female caucus that isn't utterly insane and filled with drama and everything else.
tim tompkins
Of course.
new groyper in south
I can't.
He said AOC.
tim tompkins
No, there are some things.
There are some.
They've just got to be mainstream.
I'll say that.
rex jones
I think there's not a congressman or a senator aside from Massey Navy that's worth a single damn.
I mean, I don't know if you saw the first hour of the show where you're talking about it.
I mean, did you see my total coward?
We'll get into that.
Total flip-flop deep stater.
I don't like Pulsey Gabbard.
unidentified
All right.
rex jones
I got off my train of thought.
Shit.
Oh, man.
new groyper in south
You hit me with a bomb.
unidentified
Okay.
rex jones
New Groper.
Oh, did you see Zoron and Trump in the Oval Office?
new groyper in south
Trump's been a Democrat since the 90s.
It was always Cam.
rex jones
I think it's, yeah, I think we fell for it.
Yeah, it's a uniparty.
Like, it's so insane.
Like, and they're up there just joking around laughing at each other.
Trump threatened to use National Guard on him.
Trump said, I might put you in jail.
I'm not quoting him.
It's just paraphrasing.
Like, he was very, very anti-Mom Donnie.
And Mom Donnie called him a fascist.
But at the end of the day, they're all able to smile and meet together because they're in the club.
And it just outrages me so much because it's a show.
It's a TV show.
new groyper in south
You know, it kind of reminds me of wrestling, with the exception of at least wrestling is entertaining after you've been drinking a good bit.
It's just, it's literally just, it's just a work, dude.
It's, it's a work.
And all of these people are the same.
And, you know, I'm a, you know, some the that Texas politician lady that they're trying to shove on you guys.
rex jones
Oh, oh, real quick, real quick.
new groyper in south
That immigrant lady.
Yeah.
It's like, bro, like, we have failed so far as a conservative movement.
rex jones
Hold on.
new groyper in south
When we're letting the go ahead.
rex jones
You're talking about the lady that like held a gun up to like the guy.
new groyper in south
Yeah.
rex jones
Yeah.
She like super anti-Islam, but like over the top to the I don't think I saw her.
New Grover, will you explain a little bit?
Just give a little exposition because this is a great topic.
new groyper in south
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
new groyper in south
So she's, she's some, she's some kind of Mexican lady.
Um, she's an immigrant lady, I guess, from what I understand.
And there's yet another immigrant female who is entering into the political sphere.
She's like, I'm super based.
I hate Muslims.
And granted, I'm not a fan of Muslims too, except for the possibility of Sharia law.
unidentified
Kind of like that idea.
new groyper in south
But, but, you know, it's like essentially what she is is she's a grifter.
rex jones
And it's so obvious.
unidentified
It's so obvious.
new groyper in south
She's just like, MAGA, MAGA, base.
It's like she's an NPC.
And it's like, it's like how we have conservatives, like when our when our party is having to be led by immigrant women, like, bro, we're cooked.
unidentified
Like, just pack it up.
new groyper in south
I could be going home.
rex jones
Yeah.
No, I think they're all children, man.
Like, like, the politicians are the, they're the most like malformed little like bubble boy people that have ever existed on this planet.
And we talked about it.
Like, like, even MTG, she comes in, she's worth 700K.
unidentified
She leaves.
rex jones
She's worth 40 million.
new groyper in south
She has like a 35-year-old you saw her retirement date and her pension date, right?
Yeah.
rex jones
No, of course they coincide.
Of course.
unidentified
Wait, wait, what?
Yeah, yeah.
No, yeah.
She fires when she's like, oh, shit.
tim tompkins
She was waiting to get out, huh?
unidentified
Right.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
That's why she didn't care.
Oh, my God.
This, this is all making sense.
This is why she didn't care about the grift on the line.
She just wanted to get her last name.
new groyper in south
Right.
You know, and I don't even blame her because grifters don't grift.
You got to don't hate the player, hate the game.
tim tompkins
True.
new groyper in south
Right.
rex jones
Very true.
new groyper in south
But I blame her stupid constituents.
Like you back, like you retards, you backwoods retards.
Like you voted for this crazy quote-unquote MAGA lady, and it was clearly a griff with anybody who has an IQ above 85 knows.
Like she pretended Nick Cuentez didn't exist, but then had Groipers on her staff and then did all that.
unidentified
It's like, okay.
Yeah, no, it's all make-believe, man.
new groyper in south
We are ruled by this uniparty and it's going to collapse.
And when it does, it's going to be glorious.
And like I said, I joke tongue-in-cheek about the Sharia law about, you know, the only solace will be that women won't be allowed to be outside anymore.
Just because we have to make light of, you know, what's going to happen inevitably.
You know, I don't know.
Did you guys check the mayor of Dearborn, Michigan?
What he said?
rex jones
No, what did he say?
new groyper in south
To an American citizen?
rex jones
What did he say?
new groyper in south
He said, so this white guy got up and said this is a white country, which, you know, like, like it, you know, talking about American, like heritage, like people in America who've been America, right?
And this guy, this, the mayor looked at him and said, you're not welcome in this city.
I will throw a parade.
He's literally said, I will throw a parade when you leave.
You are Islamophobic and homophobic and just both everybody.
rex jones
Those two things can't go together.
unidentified
The Muslims are like, yeah, I don't know if that's allowed.
new groyper in south
Muscles will say what the see the Muslims will say what they need to say so they can take over.
rex jones
Well, the thing is, it all goes back to that coalition that really started off where Obama started to try to get all the different minority groups that really didn't like each other, try to get him as a voting block against the white population.
And that's really been the story of the past 20 years with our electorate.
You know, Prop 50 in California, gay marriage, it failed because black people voted against it.
Well, that's the reality.
That's the reality.
But the left comes and says, hey, you're all oppressed groups.
We loop you into one thing.
And then, like, you know, together we're strong.
But in reality, like, it's all a grift.
tim tompkins
Well, that's always been the Democrats' play.
They always group the minorities.
rex jones
The Muslim talking about homophobia and talking about that person being homophobic, that Muslim person knows that that's against his beliefs and against his religion.
And that they're supposed to like kill people like that.
That's what it says in the book.
That's what their hadiths say.
That's their policy.
tim tompkins
Yeah, that's why I don't like Sharia law and all those things.
rex jones
But my point being with that, he knows that, but he's still willing to use kind of like the corporate HR language speech on the person to be like, yeah, you know what?
Like, I'm a part of this power block.
Get out of here.
And I see that a lot on the right now, where it's like, if you deviate from MAGA, if you don't use the MAGA language of the winning and the golden age and all this, you're somehow, you're like a doomer, a black pillar.
I hate it.
new groyper in south
Well, you know, I hate to point it out.
I'm going to point it out.
It's not MAGA.
It's MIGA.
rex jones
It's MIGA.
new groyper in south
It's the Israel.
rex jones
M-I-GA.
It's very fun to say.
Mega, please.
It's very fun to say.
Very fun to say.
tim tompkins
Wow, people are just creative, huh?
donald j trump
MIGA.
rex jones
Make Israel great again.
He said it.
Trump tweeted it out.
Right, New Groiper?
tim tompkins
Mega, please.
new groyper in south
Yeah, no, dude, when he got elected, they said, it said, congratulations, Trump.
Make Israel great again.
It was, it was a billboard.
Right.
unidentified
But he tweeted.
rex jones
Yeah.
Go ahead.
new groyper in south
Go ahead.
rex jones
He tweeted out.
new groyper in south
He's such a cuck.
rex jones
Yeah.
I mean, hey, like to the power interest, yeah, he is.
100%.
unidentified
Oh, I have a question for you, New Greuper.
new groyper in south
Yeah, what's up?
tim tompkins
So did you see?
Okay.
So did you see that video of the parking lot situation where the guy and then the guys came out with Bacon?
I kind of already know what you're going to say about this, but I have to ask what your standpoint is.
unidentified
Do you think they went too far with that?
new groyper in south
I think, I think that we live in such a satirical world at this point that it is just kind of like it's moot.
unidentified
Like nothing is serious.
Like, it's like, yeah, I agree.
new groyper in south
I think there is a, yeah, I think they're like, obviously, obviously, I'm not like a hate-all black person person or guy, right?
Like, I'm clearly not.
If I was, I wouldn't call in and engage with the show.
Clearly.
But at the same time, it's like, you know, like, I'm really, the only thing that that's very interesting about this movement is the idea of reclaiming free speech.
Like saying what you want to say.
And I would just say this: it's a but like people like when they hear certain words, they crash out.
unidentified
And people say them so that they're trolling when they say like that guy in that video.
tim tompkins
There's the line between free speech and harassment, though.
rex jones
Well, I mean, you can't, I'm not an answer for New Greuper, but I mean, if in the video, they started it.
Yeah.
new groyper in south
He looked over there because they were acting like hoodlums.
I mean, blaring music in the fire lane is not proper behavior, I would say.
rex jones
Yeah, and this raises the point.
They got felony charges, the people with the bacon, because it's illegal to interrupt a religious service.
Now, if you go pray with a circle of people on the concrete, if you go pray to the circle of people and then people are like, hey, like, we're doing stuff here, you got to leave.
Or if people are like mocking you or whatever, if people are mocking you and interrupting your service by, I don't, I don't know, burning a Bible or whatever while you're all there with your people, like, like, I can't, I, this is, this is going to go to a Supreme Court of some state or something or some appeals court.
Like, I think, I think we'll see this.
It's very interesting, precedent-wise.
I'm interested to see what happens, but it's so childish to me.
I mean, look, the people, look, they're here.
You're not, you're not God Emperor of the United States.
You can't get them off the street.
They're Muslims.
They're praying.
It's whatever.
You hate them.
It's whatever.
Why must we always fight about the people that the Muslims aren't actively making your life worse right there on the street?
The people making your life actively worse, the people in government that lie to you in order to get you vote for them.
I'm glad you're so.
Why do we even care about like it blows up on social media and it's this huge thing?
unidentified
Because, oh, the Muslim and we eat bacon and it's funny.
rex jones
They're like, we're Muslim and they're bullying us by eating bacon.
It's wrong.
Like, it's so stupid that we're even at a level where we fight with each other.
new groyper in south
People behead Christians in Africa.
Like, you wiped out the entire Christian population from the continent of Africa.
I don't want to, like, don't lecture me about, oh, you feel offended.
Like, bro, you got like they murder people.
rex jones
And that's gotten charged.
I, I, I, I agree with you on that perspective.
My thing is that the people that are praying, like, that's that's their right.
This country was founded on religious freedom.
They get to do that.
They did that.
I understand your point.
I don't like Islam.
I do not like it.
I've read the book.
It is a blueprint.
tim tompkins
And that is what it is.
And that is the part.
You know how you said, uh, not all Jewish people are from Israel, right?
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
It's like not all Muslims.
rex jones
I disagree.
tim tompkins
No, no.
I'm saying what I was going to go specifically was not to defend Muslims because I really don't think you should be dating 13-year-olds and doing all that type of shit.
All I am saying is just like I give the argument for gay people where, like, if you're not really doing anything that's like disrupting me, go pray and do whatever you got to do.
Like, I see people at my job do that all the time.
They're in the shower and they get the mat out.
I'm not going to go up to this dude and be like, piggy, piggy, piggy.
That's fucked.
rex jones
And I believe that's wrong because it's disrespectful.
And I don't want to treat people that way in general, but it is literally, it's a meme culture of, oh, if there were no cameras and there were no cell phones, do they go do that?
Absolutely not.
It's for the fucking internet.
Like everything is fucking everything.
new groyper in south
It's a troll.
And that's why I don't get like, you know, going back, going back to that video.
unidentified
Like, I've laughed hysterically at it.
new groyper in south
Not for any like ideological alliances per se, but the fact is it's just like it's blatant and trolling.
And people are crack, like, like, you've got to realize that if people are trolling you, you don't crash out because that feels the fire.
tim tompkins
Yeah, but like, you know, and it was like, but my thing is, is like, just like I say, people have TikTok brain and they watch these mindless people doing like TikTok dances and shit.
Like, I'm so tired of my ex-feed just being like, I mean, there's satire and then there's just straight up like disrespect and just like trying to rage bait and being racist at certain points.
Like, look, like, there's a fine line that everybody has internally.
There's some that, like people would never say to my face but they would do it on the internet because there is the anonymity of being able to say, that's the nature of the beast.
No and, and here's the thing, I agree with the old, like how you know, it used to be fun, like I think there's satire.
I joke around like me and my friends make like semi-racist jokes at certain points to each other, like in a playful way where, like my friend is uh, he's like he's Muslim and like i'm black, so he'll make a black joke and then i'll throw like an Arab joke back at him, but like that's funny.
Then there's the real trolls who specifically just want to incite that level of just like I I see it.
rex jones
I think it comes from people not understanding that we're human beings anymore and people just think that they kind of exist, and they exist on the phone and that is what it is.
I think that these people haven't had a lot of normal interaction and that that's why some people need to get punched in the face though sometimes it's illegal, I don't believe that.
tim tompkins
No no, but i'm saying punched in the face to the extent of like, look around, find out like you do that sound like Trump, but i'm just saying, like you, you're gonna come up to me make a joke.
Well yeah, go ahead.
new groyper in south
Well, i'd say this, I mean if, if we're like the thing is is free speech and this is like this is kind of an aspect for it, for me, if free speech, if there are groups of people who can dictate like oh, if I say this i'm racist, if I say this i'm anti-semitic, and every in anything like you know it's overused, that all of that, you know it doesn't mean anything anymore right, because it's been watered down to the point.
And two, I you know like words are mean.
Yeah, words are mean, people are mean, that's just human nature.
But like our right to free speech, like when you've got people like I was watching a little clip of like the Clavicular guy talking about saying n-word and this lady is like, uh, you can't say that.
And he was like, really, why not?
He's like because I said so.
And then he said really, and then he said it again and everybody started laughing at her.
She was like, who?
Who said that I can't say this?
And she was like, well, all the black people.
And it's like, you know, like i've been called things like.
Like, i've been called things like a honky and a cracker and stuff and I thought it was funny, like I just laughed it off yeah like, because it's like it, you know.
unidentified
But but it it's.
new groyper in south
It's this double standard in free speech and it's happening.
unidentified
It's.
new groyper in south
It's a leftist ideology that infiltrated the right as well.
Now, because that right has the right.
Israel, you're an anti-semite?
tim tompkins
No yeah, and I agree with you on the anti-semite part and like that only thing is is like again, I say there's a borderline between making jokes and then genuinely just trying to harass people to the point where it just doesn't make any sense.
unidentified
I, I mean, here's like that, like that video, he was definitely provoking them and and and and it was pretty.
new groyper in south
He did a good job of provoking them.
unidentified
They were very personal.
tim tompkins
When you give these guys a platform without punishing them, then other people just think it's hilarious and you can follow suit.
So they're trying to make an example.
rex jones
I mean, you can't, you can't make it.
Here's the thing.
They're on a public fucking street.
And like, if this, if they went into a building or something and they did this, it would be a completely different story.
And I would be on the people's side.
They were praying in a fucking street.
new groyper in south
Yeah, well, they chased them in.
unidentified
Yeah.
new groyper in south
I'm trying to pose this question, though.
There is there, like, and this is a realist thing.
Like, like, I don't think, I think that people are being radicalized live due to a lack of accountability in every which way.
Cause it's like, hey, like, everybody talks about that video, right?
And oh, he said the N-word.
unidentified
Okay, cool.
new groyper in south
But, like, let's not talk about like the completely illegal behavior that people, they were doing.
And nobody ever says, hey, well, why were they like, why did they start hollering at him the second he happened to look in their direction?
People are just tired of being intimidated.
And it's like they're using these things to like try to take back like power and freedom for themselves because people have been suppressed.
unidentified
And I agree.
rex jones
And that's, that's that political history of that time period.
Tim, you may not be too familiar with it.
Between 2015 and 2020, you were not allowed to speak, basically.
No, I know, but you're not allowed to speak.
tim tompkins
Here's the thing.
rex jones
So now people can say what they want.
They want to keep being able to say what they want.
tim tompkins
Dude, people, I have, I literally was the only black kid in my entire grade.
White kids are going to fucking say the N-word, whether I'm in the room or whether I'm not in the room.
I don't, here's the thing.
You say in the song, I don't really give a fuck.
What I'm saying here is like the radicalizing and the polarization behind some of these people and the trolls on the online is the only thing is because, at some points, some things gain enough traction to where they actually become detrimental.
unidentified
Well, what is explain what detrimental now?
tim tompkins
People getting hurt, people getting insult, I mean I mean like to the point where like okay, I know you guys are never gonna agree with me on the H-1B visa situation okay, but X is an echo chamber of just like Anti-Indians.
At this point it's it's clear as day.
Like New Guinea doesn't want to buy Indian products, totally fine.
But here's the thing, when you get enough people that make enough noise and then you've got like politicians that like are also on X, and then they're like you get the MTGs that are like okay, imagine there's a real movement where they completely just disassemble the, the H-1B situation.
You're gonna celebrate, but there's real ramifications that will potentially create a, a ripple effect that we're not prepared for, just knee-jerk reactions from things that just go on too long.
That's all i'm saying.
I'm just saying that that's a real around find out situation and there's a certain level of like trolling that like okay fine, do whatever you want.
rex jones
Very fun evening, very engaging conversation.
New Groiper, i'm sure you have a lot more to say and we'll talk about our next show.
You're always welcome to call in.
We appreciate you being here with us tonight.
We're coming up to three hours.
I'm a little wash.
We're gonna go ahead and end it.
Thank you for being here with us.
New Groper, Thank you.
new groyper in south
Hey, no problem, guys.
unidentified
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new groyper in south
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rex jones
Yeah, please do.
Do your research on it.
Please do.
Thank you.
new groyper in south
Yeah.
Like I said, I think for me, it's going to be the elemental drive.
rex jones
Okay, 100%.
tim tompkins
That's what it's going to be.
rex jones
100%.
We're all going to be taking it.
We're all going to be on the elemental drive.
Thank you for being here with us tonight, New Groiper.
And please follow New Groiper on X. Hey, no problem, guys.
new groyper in south
It's always fun.
We'll see you guys.
rex jones
Dude, thank you so much.
Always a pleasure.
All right.
Well, fun show tonight.
Informative show.
What we're going to do is we're going to clip some of the informative parts of this show where I talk about the supplements.
We're going to put those clips out.
I'm going to start doing a solo show purely focused on supplements, also under the gray area name.
But look, there's a lot of my new show I want to get into.
I know some people enjoy it.
I know some people don't.
My point is, I want to get the information out there.
I want to start clipping the videos so I can say, hey, I've talked about this metabolic system.
I've talked about this ingredient.
You can go find the information in XYZ video.
So I'll put out a lot more of that for you next, not this coming weekend, but the weekend after, because we're coming up on the holidays, Tim and me will be doing a deep dive on just how fat these grifters have gotten.
tim tompkins
Yeah, like we just happened to start talking about how much people are inside trading.
He didn't know MTG made a bunch of money in Lockheed.
I was, I, and, and I didn't know until I started researching into some of these people, but I was like, you know what?
We're going to make a segment about this at this point because it's too much.
It's too much.
And it's right.
It's right and left, guys.
rex jones
I want to see the Pelosium multiplier.
I want to see how broke she was when she got it.
tim tompkins
Pelosi's net worth is like 250 million or something.
rex jones
I know, but what was it when she first was, I just, I, you know, oh, yeah.
tim tompkins
We're, I'm going to, what I'll do is I'm going to see if I can find it.
I'm going to see if I can find the top 10.
And then we'll do like the top 10 showing like what their net worths were before and who made the most afterwards.
And we'll just see what that return on investment of being a congressman is like.
rex jones
Oh, hardest job in the world.
Well, thank you guys for being here with us tonight.
Incredible deep dives coming.
Incredible deep dive today.
Clips, news, all of it.
Follow Truism Tim on X. Please do it.
He's a great guy, puts out great clips and information.
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tim tompkins
And some people have asked me in the past, like, how can they support the show?
Like, people were asking to buy stuff.
I was like, look, I don't want you guys to buy me like a new Elgato system and stuff.
I was like, look, the small things like this to support the show, because this will all be going back into the show.
rex jones
And it supports you too.
And that's the thing that we have to touch on here.
And we talked about it again and again and again.
I'm going to hit on it again.
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tim tompkins
Somebody wrote it at the same time.
rex jones
360 win.
And then you get the win of having the highest quality product with the best effect possible.
That's what we do here on the gray area.
Please follow and subscribe.
Thank you for being here with us tonight, Tim Tompkins.
tim tompkins
You guys can go and find the products are in our X bios now, as well as the highlight.
So you guys can go ahead and look at those as well on the X accounts.
Rex, mine, and the Gray Area all now have that as well for you guys to check out.
rex jones
Yeah, just visit the profile, guys.
tim tompkins
Visit the profile.
rex jones
Thank you so much.
And good luck and good night.
tim tompkins
Thank you.
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