Oct. 20, 2025 - Gray Area - Rex Jones & Tim Tompkins
03:15:39
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| What's going on here? | ||
| Comments, top right. | ||
| I see it. | ||
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unidentified
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All right. | |
| So I didn't share it yet. | ||
| So we'll have to pull up X. | ||
| I think I shared it as well. | ||
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unidentified
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Oh, are you talking about the X? | |
| Oh, yeah, it's feedback. | ||
| It's no good. | ||
| That's me, that's me, that's me. | ||
| Okay, so it automatically shares it for me. | ||
| It does, but I'm saying the Rumble and YouTube. | ||
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unidentified
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Okay. | |
| Just copy and paste those guys. | ||
| Thank you for being with us. | ||
| Whoever's with us here, we are just reposting a couple links here. | ||
| We'll get right on with the show. | ||
| Thank you guys for joining. | ||
| We are just setting up something real quick. | ||
| Thank you, Honey Badger. | ||
| Thank you, High Council. | ||
| Thank you, New Groiper. | ||
| Really the big three. | ||
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unidentified
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Big three. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| All right, where did we find the link here? | ||
| Copy and paste off of where's it at? | ||
| The rumble's up there. | ||
| Oh, I guess, yeah, we just got to pull it from there. | ||
| Direct link is right there. | ||
| This is it? | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| And the YouTube link. | ||
| And then the YouTube link. | ||
| I'll just get it real quick. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| Just to pull up a new time. | ||
| Tell us about your day, Tim. | ||
| You're just researching? | ||
| Yeah, today was a research day. | ||
| I was just tying off some things with World War II. | ||
| World War II is, oh my God, dude, it's content heavy. | ||
| That thing I told you to research and you found all that information. | ||
| That was the kicker, man. | ||
| That was really the kicker. | ||
| I got it all. | ||
| I was there. | ||
| Ooh, the double feedback. | ||
| Isn't that nice? | ||
| Our viewers love to hear us talk twice at the same time. | ||
| I don't think they'll be able to hear it. | ||
| I think they can. | ||
| All right, we're good. | ||
| We're fine now. | ||
| We're going to do the World War II, though, like towards the end after Matt Baker comes on. | ||
| Thank you for joining us, Andrew. | ||
| Really appreciate that. | ||
| Thank you for reposting the stream. | ||
| You do that. | ||
| You're a gangster. | ||
| Yeah, we love you guys. | ||
| I'm going to repost this real quick. | ||
| Yeah, so we've got a number of topics to discuss tonight. | ||
| We're going to lead off with a tweet. | ||
| You know, here's the thing. | ||
| You never know what's going to blow up on Twitter or on X. You have no idea. | ||
| And I'm just sitting outside by the trampoline. | ||
| I see this clip of Fuentes. | ||
| And I just, I wanted to comment on it because I did see it kind of as gatekeeping. | ||
| And we'll play the clip. | ||
| We'll talk about it. | ||
| And I love Nick. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I watch nearly every stream, but like I had an opinion on it. | ||
| And then for some reason, that gets like 100,000 views. | ||
| And then my dad comments on it. | ||
| And I'm like, okay, well, this wasn't my, this wasn't my intention. | ||
| And I hope he keeps following me on X. | ||
| But look, it can't make everyone happy. | ||
| And at the end of the day, here's my belief, right? | ||
| Now, I'll get into this here in like five minutes once we have a few more people trickle in here. | ||
| We really appreciate the 80 people watching us right now. | ||
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unidentified
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We do. | |
| The thing is, at Infowars growing up, the message has always been people should get out there, do men on the street, make videos, make media, you know, do their own type of show, become like a blogger or a writer. | ||
| That's something that we've always promoted. | ||
| And, you know, the clip we're going to watch of Fuentes, he essentially gets one of those super chatters. | ||
| And I get it. | ||
| He gets annoyed by the super chatters and they comment all sorts of crazy things. | ||
| And he's got to read it because they pay him money. | ||
| But at the end of the day, like you got someone that's passionate, has been involved for a very long time and like looks up to this person as like a hero and wants to do their own show. | ||
| And then the person goes, yeah, it's probably not right for you. | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| I get it from a risk perspective, right? | ||
| because it is very dangerous to be a public figure or to attempt to be one or to like put yourself out there in that way. | ||
| But not every single person is going to end up doing like an America first style show, like a true like Nick Fuentez or like InfoWars style broadcast. | ||
| And not everyone should, right? | ||
| I mean, if that was true, you wouldn't be doing a show. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| So I didn't know, I didn't overthink when I decided to like just start experimenting. | ||
| I mean, I see where his perspective is because, yeah, when you do get in it, you, you do kind of eat, sleep, and breathe this stuff sometimes. | ||
| And you have to take it utterly seriously. | ||
| But I told you the mentality change from day one is to not think of it as, oh, this is crazy thing that I'm doing. | ||
| And it's so wild. | ||
| It's so insane. | ||
| How am I going to learn to be good at it? | ||
| You should do it. | ||
| You just do it. | ||
| And then over time, like you're going to discover whether or not you're kind of built for it, whether or not you should do it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And you don't even have to do a show, like writing, commenting. | ||
| I mean, if you're posting on X, I mean, that's like just as dangerous at the end of the day. | ||
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unidentified
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It is. | |
| Because your employers will look at that too. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So, I mean, look, we'll go ahead and wait for a few more people to get in here and then we'll get into the prep documents that we have, the prep show that we have. | ||
| I mean, the Gaza ceasefire being violated. | ||
| Now they're bombing again. | ||
| That's pretty crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We had the No Kings protests real recently over the past couple of days. | ||
| We had one here in Austin, too. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah, I saw it. | |
| It's just a bunch of fat white women at the end of the day. | ||
| And they're just kind of like waddling about. | ||
| And that's fine. | ||
| Look, here's the thing. | ||
| I get from the left's perspective, like they've trashed the American flag and that sort of imagery for years. | ||
| They've tied that to like white nationalism and white supremacy. | ||
| So I guess with the No Kings rally, what they're trying to do, and I've seen a lot of like American flag imagery, is they're trying to get out there and kind of repurpose that and go like, yes, we're actually, we're liberals, but we do support America. | ||
| We do support our constitutional values, quote unquote. | ||
| Here's what I say about the No Kings thing. | ||
| Biden mandated that 80 million federal employees get the shot or lose their jobs. | ||
| That seems like a king thing. | ||
| They're all kings. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're all kings. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly correct, Tim. | ||
| They're all kings. | ||
| So that's a little insane. | ||
| That's a little wild. | ||
| Of course, we're going to be joined by Matt Baker, and I got to send him the StreamYard link. | ||
| Don't let me forget to do that. | ||
| I'll look back here in a second. | ||
| I just should go ahead and do that now so I don't forget. | ||
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unidentified
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All right. | |
| Where's it at? | ||
| You go to the plus person down there. | ||
| No, no, no, not there. | ||
| Cancel. | ||
| Oof. | ||
| I see it. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| And then copy that. | ||
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unidentified
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I got it. | |
| Real professional show we got here, guys. | ||
| Really appreciate y'all being here with us tonight. | ||
| We really do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the no king situation. | ||
| Talk about that a little bit. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I think Rex is accurate in his statement when it comes to like the double standards when it comes. | ||
| But like the thing is, is the executive branch is being like hard tested at this point. | ||
| Between the last two administrations, probably like the last since 2000, honestly, the executive branch has shown how much more power it has over the other branches. | ||
| You know, the judicial system takes so long to get anything passed and they know that. | ||
| Whereas an executive order, you can just pass that thing overnight and essentially get whatever you need done before somebody gets the whole lawsuit through the entire system a year later when the insertion of whatever they were trying to do is already done. | ||
| And I mean, it harkens back to what you just said. | ||
| Like they're all kings. | ||
| They've been kings for 30, 40, maybe even 50 years, like really since JFK. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| I didn't ask for a Ukraine war, did I? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Did you ask for Afghanistan Iraq war? | ||
| I didn't ask for that either. | ||
| Right, but you got it. | ||
| We got it. | ||
| And like this hearkens to the stuff that's going on in Venezuela, right? | ||
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unidentified
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Too. | |
| I didn't ask for that either. | ||
| So like he can just hit boats, you know, and it's, oh, it's based. | ||
| You know, it's based to drop ordnance on. | ||
| Like fly the B-52s over there. | ||
| I watched the Jesse Waters clip, which is really just like terminal boomer fuel at the end of the day. | ||
| Like when you, when you watch that Jesse Waters clip, and I'll repost it to my profile after the stream. | ||
| Already reacted to it, so we won't react to it again. | ||
| It's just like you can see who it's for. | ||
| Yeah, you can really, really see who it's for. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think Trump's response, though, to the whole thing was pretty hilarious. | ||
| You know, it's like I'm taking a step back and I'm not necessarily being like, okay, well, they're stupid for protesting, but like, there's a part of me that's like, you guys aren't going to make any change. | ||
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Right. | |
| Well, I mean, what are they protesting for? | ||
| What's the big argument about the big argument is like, oh, it's unconstitutional to have these ICE raids and have the illegals kicked out. | ||
| Well, I mean, Trump got a majority vote on that issue. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Right. | |
| I would say his number one issue was being anti-war, but then number two issue was deporting all the illegal immigrants, right? | ||
| Which he did. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, he's done it. | ||
| He's done an all right job. | ||
| He's deported, like, I believe 2 million people as of today. | ||
| And a lot of self-deportation along with that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I mean, like, during the Biden era, you literally had people, he literally said immediately after he was elected, surge the border. | ||
| And then you had people show up in the Biden shirts to the border. | ||
| I mean, it's all a bit too much. | ||
| But now that we got, ooh, wow, we got almost 500 people in here, folks. | ||
| Let's go ahead and watch the Fuentes clip. | ||
| Look, when I tweeted this out, I was sitting on the trampoline last night at my grandparents' house. | ||
| I was watching my dog. | ||
| And you never know what's going to go viral on X. You never know what's going to blow up. | ||
| And I love Fuentes. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I watch most of his streams. | ||
| Don't block him. | ||
| Please don't follow. | ||
| Please love you, Nick. | ||
| At the same time, he's not going to see this. | ||
| At the same time, here's the thing. | ||
| You got to understand, you got to be willing to have your opinions about things regardless of who the person is. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I like him. | ||
| I love him. | ||
| I think he's like the most talented broadcaster besides my father that I've ever seen. | ||
| But at the same time, look, you are not the only person that can do a show. | ||
| Other people can do shows and other people's shows can be good. | ||
| And my dad replied to it. | ||
| My dad replied to the tweet and he's like, he's not talking about you. | ||
| And I didn't think he was talking about me. | ||
| I don't think he really thinks about me or like knows who I am. | ||
| At the end of the day, I'm the nobody. | ||
| I just started doing this again at the end of the day, right? | ||
| I'm affiliated with Infowars, but that's it. | ||
| I was reacting to it because some guy super chats in and he's like, Hey, I'm a big fan. | ||
| I've been watching for a long time, been in politics since I was like 13. | ||
| I really love this and I want to do a show. | ||
| And he's essentially like, don't do it. | ||
| It's not worth it. | ||
| It's too dangerous and it's a waste of your time. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| Not everyone and really nobody should try to copy anyone else, right? | ||
| If you learn a style somewhere, you can adopt that style and you have the right to it. | ||
| But when a person is coming up and saying, hey, I want to start doing a show, they're not necessarily saying they want to do your show. | ||
| They're just saying they want to do a show in general. | ||
| I mean, there are people that are knowledgeable economics, crypto, war, all sorts of different sectors, got people in different careers, veterans, you name it. | ||
| And our message at Infowars, really what I grew up with for two decades plus was hearing the message of everyone should start a show. | ||
| Everyone should be out there, you know, being an activist. | ||
| Everyone should be out there blogging or writing articles, you name it. | ||
| That's what I always thought was important. | ||
| So if you're trying to build this political movement, and I've seen Fuentes talk about this numerous times, he wants 100,000 like well-educated, like very rich, like young men to like reach the heights of power in various sectors, and then he can enact his political agenda. | ||
| This is what he's publicly said. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, I mean, that makes sense if you're trying to start a new political movement. | ||
| And I actually, I agree with that to a certain extent. | ||
| However, you're going to need more people other than just you like tilting the political political conversation into new directions. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And especially, here's the thing. | ||
| You cannot go anywhere besides places like Judge Napolitano, Nick Fuentes. | ||
| My dad sometimes being like really, really anti-war. | ||
| And that's what we need to see more of. | ||
| I want to see dozens of new anti-war broadcasts from various sectors, various demographics of people, all bringing in a new audience, right? | ||
| I agree with that. | ||
| And I think something that Nick has done really well is that he's introduced that line of thinking to be mainline because Nick is a very anti-war guy at the end of the day. | ||
| And like, I'm a Groyper. | ||
| Like, I support Fuentes. | ||
| But at the end of the day, you're not going to be the only guy doing a show. | ||
| So let's go ahead and roll that clip. | ||
| Do you have the one that's that you posted? | ||
| So you can pull up the comment too. | ||
| It's right here. | ||
| Nice. | ||
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unidentified
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Awesome. | |
| All right. | ||
| How do we do this now? | ||
| Is it this one? | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| All right. | ||
| All right, here we go. | ||
| Yeah, it's not, listen. | ||
| Wazza Fillaway. | ||
| I'm 18, fresh out of high school, and I want to start a show with my own. | ||
| Been into politics since I'm 13. | ||
| Trying to hide my power right now, Father. | ||
| You've inspired me to fight harder for what I believe. | ||
| Love what I do. | ||
| Stay safe and God bless you. | ||
| Don't, don't do it, bro. | ||
| Do not do it. | ||
| Terrible idea. | ||
| Trust me when I tell you, you don't want to do it. | ||
| I don't mean to discourage you, but yeah, it's not. | ||
| Listen, that's fair. | ||
| There's so few people that could do this or do it well or could do it profitably. | ||
| And the odds that you're one of those people is so slim. | ||
| I know you like the show. | ||
| You want to do the show. | ||
| You like to watch the show. | ||
| You think that's something I might like to do. | ||
| But unless you're born for this, it's just probably not your thing. | ||
| I mean, me. | ||
| You were born for this. | ||
| I was doing a show for people since I was 11 years old. | ||
| And by that, I mean I was reading about politics, talking about politics, arguing to people about politics, doing public speaking. | ||
| That was my thing. | ||
| I couldn't not do it. | ||
| I just did it organically. | ||
| And then I found this and I loved it and I just kept doing it. | ||
| And I couldn't do anything else. | ||
| And unless it's like that for you, unless it's something that you can't see yourself doing anything else, then you shouldn't do it. | ||
| You know, I like Kanye West. | ||
| I like Ye's music. | ||
| I like to listen to it. | ||
| And sometimes I think I'd like to maybe make music, but I know I don't know anything about music. | ||
| I don't play an instrument. | ||
| I don't have any kind of recall about music. | ||
| I don't have special knowledge because I'm not that interested in it. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I enjoy it. | ||
| I'm a fan of it, but I'm not, it's not my obsession. | ||
| So I probably wouldn't be that good at it. | ||
| And if I'm not good at it, I probably could make money doing it or be at the top. | ||
| I discourage everybody from doing a show. | ||
| Don't do a show. | ||
| That's what I take. | ||
| That idea. | ||
| What do you think happens? | ||
| I mean, you do a show like this and you either have to lie and make money. | ||
| And by that, I mean, you conceal your views. | ||
| You lie about what you really think, which is not fun. | ||
| And you make a little bit of money or you don't lie and you go all out. | ||
| And then you get like censored. | ||
| You get censored. | ||
| You get blacklisted. | ||
| You get all kinds of problems. | ||
| And if you think it's good now, I mean, it's good for now, but it might not be forever. | ||
| It's very risky. | ||
| You know, so it's just, it's not, excuse me, it's not for everybody. | ||
| It's not for most people. | ||
| But hey, I appreciate you. | ||
| I'm glad you like the show. | ||
| I love the enthusiasm, but I would say try and get in politics. | ||
| It's much easier to build a life in politics than in media. | ||
| Because when you're in politics, you have job security. | ||
| It's low risk. | ||
| People aren't trying to like kill you or like put you under a microscope. | ||
| You know, me, I was uniquely suited for this because I had no aspiration to have any kind of family or social life or anything like that. | ||
| And by that, I mean, if I even had the slightest. | ||
| You know, that's an interesting point he makes, right? | ||
| Not having an aspiration to have family or a social life. | ||
| I mean, I know he's pro-family and he wants to have a family at the end of the day, but you do. | ||
| It's kind of odd, right? | ||
| Because you're broadcasting, you're talking to all these people. | ||
| And at the same time, you have to sacrifice a lot of, you know, the public engagements a person would typically be able to do to do the job, especially at the level of radicalization that he's involved in. | ||
| When I was watching this video, this was the part I had the biggest problem with everything else he said. | ||
| He's talking about like, you can't do, you can't have one or the other. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| There's like seasons, right? | ||
| At the very beginning of like, if you're trying to start a show and you're trying to build whatever you're trying to build, yes, you're going to have a lot of sleepless nights. | ||
| You're going to have to put in a lot of work. | ||
| You're going to have to put in a lot of hours to get to a certain point past the inertia of like that barrier it takes to get like yourself out there. | ||
| But how he's presenting the argument is like, this is your life forever. | ||
| And if this was the case, your dad wouldn't have a family. | ||
| Charlie Kirk wouldn't have a family. | ||
| Like Patrick Bett David would not have a family. | ||
| Like there's a way to compartmentalize having different things. | ||
| So it's not black and white. | ||
| It's not binary. | ||
| It's not a one or a zero. | ||
| You can have at a certain point. | ||
| You just have to learn how to like segregate the two. | ||
| Like these people go in. | ||
| You can have a couple hours with your kids. | ||
| You know, you're not going to be live the entire freaking 16 hour day. | ||
| Like no one does that. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And here's the thing. | ||
| I appreciate the point of wanting to keep people safe. | ||
| And I think that's what he's doing here because he's experienced a lot of hatred and a lot of like, he's had death threats. | ||
| He's had people show up to his house, you name it. | ||
| Like this guy, Nick Fuentes has really sacrificed a lot to do what he's doing. | ||
| And I'm a big fan. | ||
| I'm a supporter of him. | ||
| At the end of the day, though, if we're going to change people's paradigm and worldview to be away from this left-right dichotomy, this pro-war dichotomy, this pro-debt dichotomy, which is really what we're dealing with right now at the end of the day, you're going to need multiple people in multiple different genres, right? | ||
| Now, Nick may be a part of the main genre, the political commentary and current news and debate genre. | ||
| You're going to need economics people. | ||
| You're going to need military people. | ||
| You're going to need people that are more in the social sphere. | ||
| You're going to need all this to come together and build that really new free universe of alternative media. | ||
| And, you know, like InfoWars, we were the birthplace of alternative media. | ||
| And InfoWars wasn't necessarily the best or the biggest, but it was a thing that got the ball rolling and showed all the other people it was possible. | ||
| And I think Nick is going to be that, whether he likes it or not, to a whole generation of people. | ||
| So I, I understand what he's saying. | ||
| Perhaps me calling it gatekeeping is a little harsh. | ||
| I can get that. | ||
| But at the same time, I don't, I don't think, I don't think that person commenting, maybe they were, maybe the person super chatting was. | ||
| I don't think that person is going to necessarily try to be Nick Fuentes. | ||
| If they're going to try to be themselves, it's good, but don't try to be, don't try to copy someone. | ||
| I agree with that. | ||
| And maybe he's coming at it from that perspective. | ||
| And that was the big thing when we started the gray area. | ||
| And Rex and I had this conversation because he obviously comes from an establishment of InfoWars. | ||
| They have an entire brand. | ||
| They have an entire ecosystem. | ||
| I was like, oh, we're going to go film out of one of the studios. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he was like, no, we're not going to do that. | ||
| We're going to do it ourselves. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That way we can be able to distinguish ourselves because when you're part of an org, you kind of inadvertently by accident, like absorb some of the not even a part of an organization. | ||
| You could just be a super fan, you name it, right? | ||
| And that could rub off on you. | ||
| And ultimately, people will see your media. | ||
| I'm not going to say the C word. | ||
| I hate it. | ||
| The content word. | ||
| People could see your media and be rubbed wrong by it because they go, hey, you know, this is just kind of a pale imitation of this other thing. | ||
| Now, InfoWars is my style. | ||
| I love my style. | ||
| It's what I grew up with. | ||
| But I understand that's not the case for many, if like really any people. | ||
| You know, it's a very unique situation. | ||
| And Nick's someone who's been watching, you know, our broadcast for years and years and years, decades, really. | ||
| And he's someone that kind of adopted that similar style. | ||
| But look how he took it in a new direction. | ||
| That's even more successful than what we did. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I have also another case with this. | ||
| Like when he's talking about the, you know, he receives death threats. | ||
| He has to go through all this. | ||
| And he's like, basically, like, if you're going to get into media, be prepared to deal with these things. | ||
| Really, that only happens when you become one of those people that have very polarizing and harsh words when you're talking about a particular subject. | ||
| And you're going in with not necessarily always the intention, but there is a play to be sensationalized because that's how you can grow quickly, you know? | ||
| And so like, I don't see a scenario where we ever get into that point where we have like death threats because a lot of our opinions are never say never. | ||
| I know never say never, but the thing is, is like the way we are personality wise, I'm not going around just throwing, you know, very, you know, polarizing things to the point where I know I'm going to piss off a lot of people. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| I would argue that you're someone that's supposed to do this, right? | ||
| And he said, like, you know, there's very few people that are supposed to do this. | ||
| You're supposed to do this, not because you have this big desire. | ||
| Oh, I want to be media. | ||
| I want to be media guy. | ||
| You're like, hey, I have a viewpoint that I really want to express. | ||
| I think about this stuff all the time. | ||
| It's what I'm very passionate about. | ||
| It's what I want to do. | ||
| And we first started doing this. | ||
| You're like, I want to prep and practice a lot. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I was like, look, we're just going to start doing it. | ||
| And you're already going to be good at it because you know what you want to talk about. | ||
| And if you know what you want to talk about, there's no reason not to talk about it. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| At the end of the day, that's very true. | ||
| And if everybody went into the mindset, like, oh, I can't do this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they listen to everybody that says, oh, you can't, then no one would be starting shows in the first place because there's tons of doubt. | ||
| No matter where you go in, like when I was starting my own show last year, I was told a lot of things like, oh, you probably won't make it. | ||
| And yeah, that show didn't make it. | ||
| But what it did was it prepared me for it gave you the data you needed. | ||
| The data, it gave me the ability to like learn certain things, the technologies that go into it. | ||
| And it's everything applied to what we're creating now. | ||
| And this is going on for the long run. | ||
| And if you've got a lot of life experience, I don't care in what sector it's in, especially if it's niche, right? | ||
| You're able to take that and apply it to this media in a unique way. | ||
| And that's what we need more of now. | ||
| I just, I see so many of these shows and they're all the same. | ||
| I don't like that. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I so agree with you on that because the thing is, is like they lean very heavily in one direction. | ||
| And then all the rest of the content goes like that. | ||
| And then everything looks the same. | ||
| It's the same broadcast 20 different times, you name it, where you look around. | ||
| And, you know, I talk to people, you talk to people. | ||
| People have a lot of different viewpoints. | ||
| We don't get to see those expressions. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And that's the number one reason why I told Rex, I was like, yo, this is my why reason. | ||
| I talk to a lot of people, and I know there's so many people that like kind of like in the middle where they have their own discernments about opinions and they're not necessarily Republican and they're not necessarily Democratic. | ||
| They're just common sense. | ||
| And I'm like, why don't we just talk about the common sense? | ||
| There's a reason why. | ||
| And that's what we need to get away from, you know, that establishment left-right dichotomy we talk about a lot on the gray area. | ||
| This is the thing. | ||
| This is what's killing the country, guys, is that everyone has these like two buckets of opinions. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And they don't have any other opinions. | ||
| Oh, MAGA, FAFO, or then it's like liberal. | ||
| Like it's the two sides. | ||
| And people really don't think that way. | ||
| People on the internet maybe think that way more, but a lot of them are older people. | ||
| And like they've already decided what team they want to play for. | ||
| You know, I'm not a big like NFL watcher. | ||
| I know you enjoy NBA. | ||
| I like the UFC and PFL and Bellator stuff like that. | ||
| We have sports that we're fans of. | ||
| But at the end of the day, it's the same attitude as like people like put on the jersey. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And like run around with the jersey on. | ||
| Like I was, I was hanging Christmas lights, not Christmas lights, Halloween lights, but they're Christmas lights, same thing with my granddad this morning. | ||
| And I was up high on a ladder so I could see into like neighbors' yards and they're like watching the football game. | ||
| They're like running around in the backyard. | ||
| Oh, oh, like that's fun. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| People enjoying their life, whatever. | ||
| I want people to be happy. | ||
| But at the end of the day, people are the same way about politics where they'll pick a figure that they like like Trump. | ||
| And I was that way as a kid, right? | ||
| Like I love Trump and I was a huge fan of him. | ||
| But as you get older and as you gain more context, you start to change your opinion of people. | ||
| But then people online aren't really willing to do that because they just get the reinforcement. | ||
| It's like the constant grip of the reinforcement. | ||
| You are so accurate with that statement because at the end of the day, there was like a bucket of people that I used to watch because I was like, oh, they're like very independent about their opinions. | ||
| And I was like, oh, I love this. | ||
| And for example, like Patrick Bet David and the PBD podcast was one of those shows that I really lean heavily. | ||
| And I'm not shitting on what their operation is, but I saw them go from kind of doing what we're doing, where they were just kind of giving the news to like the moment like Trump went on. | ||
| I had him fighting with Vinny. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| Just fun stuff that was going on. | ||
| And they didn't really have like the everyone leaning and the circle jerk going on. | ||
| It was more like, you know, everyone had independent views. | ||
| And then it was like almost as soon as like Trump went on there, it was like, then Trump could do no wrong. | ||
| The right could do no wrong. | ||
| You're part of the power structure. | ||
| You know, it's the access journalism. | ||
| And I don't know whether it's the donors come into those situations or you got people in the background that you can't piss off. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But like, that's what kind of ruins the media sometimes is the donors are the people in the background who are spending all that money. | ||
| And, you know, that's why, like, you talked about the Kirk situation, right? | ||
| Where they all had that dinner the day before he died and they were pissed off about the couple months, I believe. | ||
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| A couple months. | ||
| No, the day before he died. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The day before he died, they had that dinner. | ||
| The text messages, yeah. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But the whole point was the donors came together and essentially were like, we don't like the way that you're saying these things. | ||
| And then that kind of went wherever way it went. | ||
| But the whole concept still stands. | ||
| It's like you should be able to say something about both sides. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| And here's the thing. | ||
| It's good for business ultimately to have people all riled up in one particular direction because, you know, they'll support whoever is giving them what they want to hear. | ||
| But the problem with echo chambers is you don't hear anything else. | ||
| There's no escape from the echo chamber. | ||
| And that's what we talk about in the gray area. | ||
| Like me and Tim have a lot of disagreements and we agree on a lot of things. | ||
| We also have knowledge in different sectors that, you know, we don't share. | ||
| So we're able to collaborate and have these big picture discussions on the gray area that you don't necessarily hear from anybody else because, you know, it's like, oh, we got to stay on message, you know? | ||
| And it's like, well, what's the message? | ||
| The message is talking to people and talking about the issues at the end of the day. | ||
| And when you do that, it's infinite. | ||
| But the problem with pigeonholing yourself into one demographic or really one ideology more than demographic, I should say, is that you end up in a world where you can't really do anything else. | ||
| And we're trying not to do that. | ||
| So we're going to be doing the show years in the future. | ||
| It'll still feel like we're doing these new episodes. | ||
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| And that's the whole point of like why we want to create our own brands. | ||
| That's the whole reason why we want to self-sponsor ourselves in certain aspects because it would really suck for us to get in that situation where we can't speak our minds because of whatever's happening. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, as business owners, entrepreneurs, whatever you want to call it, we have a certain knowledge of the economy and the state of the country that other people might not have because, you know, we're paying for equipment, we're paying for product, we're paying for employment, right? | ||
| At the end of the day. | ||
| So we're able to take that unique knowledge and then plug it into what we're talking about. | ||
| And we're able to give people that 30,000 foot view. | ||
| Other people in different contexts and different professions and different disciplines, really, they're able to share their unique experiences. | ||
| And that's what I think is beautiful about the media space. | ||
| And again, just harkening back to the point at InfoWars growing up, and this is why, you know, I made the tweet and I'll read my dad's tweet here in a second. | ||
| And then we'll get on to a couple other issues. | ||
| I'm going to have Matt Baker on at 830. | ||
| It's going to be phenomenal, guys. | ||
| You want to stay tuned. | ||
| The thing that I grew up with was the message of everyone should do the show. | ||
| Everyone should be an activist in some respect. | ||
| Everyone should be a blogger or a writer, whatever you're talented at. | ||
| We want you to be out there like we are all Infowars. | ||
| It's been the message for like 20 plus years, right? | ||
| The other day, my dad said that forever. | ||
| And when I see someone say, hey, don't go do a show, you know, a lot of the context that he said, it makes sense. | ||
| And he's trying to protect people. | ||
| And he doesn't specifically, he says, hey, look, I'm doing this show. | ||
| And like, if you try to copy this, it's not going to be good for your health and it's not going to be successful. | ||
| So like, I'm taking the risk for you. | ||
| Why would you want to do it? | ||
| That makes sense, but people have very short memories and all they're going to hear is don't do the show. | ||
| And that's kind of what I heard at first. | ||
| That's what I don't agree with at the end of the day. | ||
| And the last thing before we get into your dad's comment, if you are serious about doing a show and Rex can give his own perspective, but the way that I have felt about this thing, it requires a lot of work. | ||
| You can't just decide to go in and just half-ass this. | ||
| Like if you really want to make something out of it and you want to deliver good content, like lock in. | ||
| You know, like we'll spend hours just prepping. | ||
| Like I spent probably four hours today just a lot of heavy lifting. | ||
| I'm going to be honest with you guys. | ||
| That's because he balances out on another stuff. | ||
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| I hear Nick's point because I am inundated with like the 10,000 hours. | ||
| I do have the experience. | ||
| So I ultimately, I get what he's saying about knowing how to do the show, right? | ||
| But at the end of the day, that can also be a crutch for you. | ||
| And then you cannot do the deep research and not try to find the information because, you know, hey, I can just like, I know all these topics. | ||
| I can kind of surf on them. | ||
| And then, no, you need that, but you also need the deep dive, the deep research. | ||
| And that's why we come together so well. | ||
| Yes, we do. | ||
| At the end of the day, let's read your dad. | ||
| So let's read my dad's comment. | ||
| I'll read it in voice. | ||
| Getting better at this, guys. | ||
| Rex, you've been on here 13 years and it's your passion. | ||
| So, Nick's not talking about you. | ||
| Also, Nick's not afraid of competition. | ||
| I encourage everyone that wants to do a political show to do one. | ||
| This does not mean it will end up being your full-time profession for most people. | ||
| And, like, I agree with that, right? | ||
| And that's why I said definitely not what I was saying, Uncle to him. | ||
| Like, I agree with this 100%. | ||
| And that's what I was saying too. | ||
| And maybe gatekeeping word is a bit harsh. | ||
| Maybe I should have rephrased that, but ultimately, a tweet is a tweet. | ||
| I'm not going to delete it. | ||
| So, this is the sentiment that I agree with, but I also disagree with it because, like, it doesn't have to be your full-time profession. | ||
| And it's, he's making it seem like this has to be all that you do. | ||
| It can be a part of what you do. | ||
| And that's that compartmentalization that you talk about. | ||
| Yes, right? | ||
| It can be a part of your. | ||
| And that was the thing for me. | ||
| It's like when you compartmentalize, you do things in buckets, right? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| When we're on, when we're on the show, we're locked in. | ||
| We're doing the show. | ||
| You know, we're not thinking about anything. | ||
| I'm not taking calls. | ||
| I'm not talking to family. | ||
| I'm not hanging out with my friends. | ||
| Like, there is time that you dedicate to those, but we have an entire 16-hour day in which you can have enough time for everything. | ||
| When we're done with the show, we're not sitting there talking more about the show and going in and like figuring out next stuff. | ||
| Sometimes we do, but other times we're just chilling. | ||
| You know, we're just shooting shit and just talking about other things. | ||
| And you just, you're just present in that moment. | ||
| It is something for obsessive minds that people can get two into. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| He made Rex made a point to me, though. | ||
| And I take this wholeheartedly. | ||
| It's like, yeah, you can go back and rewatch some of your stuff, but sometimes it's good to just turn off the media so that you're not necessarily overthinking and overanalyzing yourself. | ||
| I told you that day one. | ||
| I said, very important. | ||
| And it's worked very well. | ||
| Sometimes I'll go and watch. | ||
| Other times it's like, it's not that deep. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And then I don't overthink and everything is fun. | ||
| And this is great. | ||
| I love this stuff. | ||
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| And it's because it's calm, it's relaxed, and we're having fun. | ||
| So let's read a couple of comments. | ||
| We'll go into a couple other topics. | ||
| And then we're joined by Matt Baker at 8:30. | ||
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All right. | |
| What is Tim? | ||
| What's up, Tim Kennedy? | ||
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Sucks. | |
| How are you doing? | ||
| Tiger Cynthia. | ||
| I think it's possible to get to a point across, get a point across without being polarizing. | ||
| It doesn't help to send people over the edge if you want to convert them. | ||
| People without families can have them used against them, threatened, et cetera. | ||
| Same reason a perfect soldier isn't married with kids. | ||
| I agree with that. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Nonetheless, having a family is the most rewarding thing a person can do. | ||
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True. | |
| Matt Baker is live on Rumble. | ||
| When is he coming in? | ||
| He's coming in at 8:30. | ||
| 8:30 Central. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| By the way, I hate that he fast reads the comments. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, he gets a million super chats. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta get it. | ||
| He's got to do it that way. | ||
| Like, there's nothing wrong with that. | ||
| A true king wouldn't allow the protests. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, like, that's that's kind of a great point, honey badger. | ||
| I think there's several types of show: information, entertainment, interaction, all are so important. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And when it comes to kind of getting away from things being all corporate and top-down controlled by the billionaires, wouldn't you want independent media of various sectors? | ||
| It's all popular. | ||
| That's what that's what we're talking about here. | ||
| Thank you for reposting the stream. | ||
| I went to a No Kings protest yesterday because of Infowars. | ||
| It was pathetic. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, I was driving on Lamar. | ||
| I was getting on Mopac, taking Electric Avenue to do a little loop-de-loop, as you, as you know, and I saw the people, and it's just like fat white women and like old dudes and just like, you know, people with signs. | ||
| And one person, oh, what did their signs say? | ||
| Oh, Trump is like a dick taker instead of a dictator. | ||
| And it had like a little orange pee-pee on it. | ||
| And that was pretty funny. | ||
| I kind of enjoyed that. | ||
| Greetings to you, Crease. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Repost the stream, guys. | ||
| Really appreciate it. | ||
| Thank you, Grease Monkey. | ||
| Thank you, New Gregor. | ||
| Who is Matt Baker? | ||
| Matt Baker is Dreadhead Alex Jones. | ||
| Matt Baker is a legend in the space. | ||
| He's a guy that goes to a lot of these city council meetings in San Diego and raises hell. | ||
| He really, you know, did a lot of great activist work during the pandemic against the shot and against the cities and the mandates, especially where he was living over in California. | ||
| He's a phenomenal guy. | ||
| I've been a fan of his for years, been watching him for years. | ||
| And he invited me to the American Liberty Awards a couple of years ago. | ||
| I accepted an award on behalf of my dad because he wasn't there. | ||
| And Matt Baker is just a phenomenal guy. | ||
| He's a great character. | ||
| He's a part of the space. | ||
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We love him. | |
| Thank you, High Council. | ||
| Thank you, New Grouper. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Yeah, people are pre-programmed. | ||
| Alex said two years ago he was done. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, here's the thing. | ||
| Like for him, and this is what Nick's talking about about it being dangerous, it becomes your whole life. | ||
| It really is my dad's. | ||
| Well, when you said, when he said he's done, was he done with like being on doing media? | ||
| Is that what he was trying to say? | ||
| He said that a few times. | ||
| He just wants to retire. | ||
| You know, at the end of the day, like, he wants to be able to rest and relax, like write a couple books a year. | ||
| This is what he said. | ||
| But he kind of can't because everything's writing on the back of the Alex Jones name is what is tough. | ||
| It's a tough situation to be in, you know? | ||
| And I mean, like, he's a legend. | ||
| He's great at what he does. | ||
| But at the end of the day, you do kind of become man in the mirror a little bit. | ||
| And it could be hard to really have a personal life when you're dealing with, you know, all the stressors, all the law affairs, all the attacks. | ||
| Like, he does the show because he loves to do the show, but he also does the show to stay alive at the end of the day. | ||
| So it's an important point to make. | ||
| What's the next one we're going to do? | ||
| He looks better than ever now. | ||
| Yeah, he looks phenomenal. | ||
| He's lost a lot of weight. | ||
| Yeah, let's go ahead and get into it. | ||
| So we've had a reignition of the Gaza conflict. | ||
| It appears. | ||
| What the IDF initially claimed was a Hamas-fired anti-tank missile targeting its soldiers was later revealed to be an unexploded ordnance struck by a settler-owned bulldozer. | ||
| In response to the two deaths of IDF soldiers in Rafah, Israel killed 26 Palestinians in Gaza with heavy airstrikes. | ||
| Are we sure this is true? | ||
| Because I was hearing like they did attack. | ||
| And maybe it was something accidental. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| We won't make a definitive statement. | ||
| This is hard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Two IDF soldiers died. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So we can stick with that for now. | ||
| Israel has resumed bombing in southern Rafas, breaking the ceasefire after alleged violations by Hamas. | ||
| National Security Minister Itmar Ben Gavir has called for a resumption of fighting in the Gaza Strip at full strength. | ||
| We've got some footage here of smoke from the bombings. | ||
| And here's Ben Gavir's statement. | ||
| I call on the prime minister to order the IDF to fully resume fighting in the Gaza Strip at full strength. | ||
| The false imaginations that Hamas will turn its back or even abide by the agreement as it's signed are predictably proving dangerous to our security. | ||
| The Nazi terror organization must be completely destroyed and preferably one hour earlier. | ||
| Yeah, this was never going to stop, you know, and I was optimistic about things. | ||
| I thought things might cool down for a while because like degree prep for war with Iran. | ||
| I believe that's going to happen this year. | ||
| You think it'll happen a little later, but we both agree that it is going to happen at some point, some point relatively soon. | ||
| At the end of the day, they want the land. | ||
| We've played the clips of Smotrich saying, you know, demolition is the most expensive part of the building process, you know, and they want, they want to build that 15-minute city and they want Jared Kushner, Tony Blair to be the mayor of it or the colonial governor. | ||
| That's what they want. | ||
| And, you know, the Dubai of Israel. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But ultimately, the Palestinian people have just refused to leave. | ||
| They're like, this is our land. | ||
| We're not leaving here. | ||
| At the end of the day, they have a similar attitude. | ||
| You know, it's like Native Americans on a reservation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because during the Nakba, during like the 1948 war, that's how those people ended up in Gaza. | ||
| So they're like, okay, we were moved here and we were told we could stay here and now we have to move again. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| That just to elaborate on what he's talking about, the Nakba is like one of the things that the Muslim community kind of in the Palestinian catastrophe. | ||
| So it's like one of those things like the Jews have their own, like the long walk or something like that, where it was very, like, it's one of those traumatic events. | ||
| But long story short, Israel, the Palestinian area had a whole, you know, after the United Nations had decided to carve up the Palestinian area to where like Israel has this part and then the Palestinians have these parts. | ||
| You know, Israelis obviously said, yeah, we'll take that deal. | ||
| And then the Muslims were like, no, we don't want to do that because this is also part of our land. | ||
| Ended up causing a civil war anyways. | ||
| And basically, Israel went in there and just basically cleared house and took everything. | ||
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| Right. | ||
| So we're dealing with a situation here that was never going to stop anyway, but the short period of peace, quote unquote, seems to have ended quite soon. | ||
| Man, that's the same with everything. | ||
| I don't, I literally, anytime I see a tweet that's like, oh, new peace deal going on is going to create forever peace. | ||
| I just, I take it with a grain of salt now. | ||
| I heard it with, I heard it with Ukraine. | ||
| Like that was supposed to stop like months ago. | ||
| You know, this whole situation was supposed to stop. | ||
| There was a time period where like I know the Lebanon, that one did stop. | ||
| That one, I can give credit. | ||
| Like that, that did stop. | ||
| They didn't start fighting for that situation. | ||
| But overall, it's like a boy who cried wolf in certain situations. | ||
| And I don't think Israel is going to stop in this case. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, I tend to agree with you, Tim, especially on that. | ||
| So we got these are the strikes. | ||
| Yeah, we should get more footage of it. | ||
| All right, let's see. | ||
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| I'm just a little confused. | ||
| I'm just a little confused. | ||
| What are they bombing at this point? | ||
| If everything's like basically leveled out, what else is there? | ||
| They're punishing the population. | ||
| That's what this is. | ||
| They're punishing the population. | ||
| The whole thing has been like, Palestinians, you want this to stop? | ||
| Just give up Hamas. | ||
| Just give them up and we will make it in. | ||
| This has been the statement from day one from the Israelis. | ||
| You know what's going to happen? | ||
| Decades from now, we're going to get the real story behind all of these events. | ||
| Just like when I was looking into World War II, dude, there was some very controversial stuff that the Allied powers did, especially Churchill and Britain. | ||
| He's not a good guy. | ||
| Dude, he's not. | ||
| Everyone. | ||
| They make documentaries about how cool he is. | ||
| How cool he is. | ||
| He killed millions of people. | ||
| Stalin, some people think Stalin, like, oh, he defeated the Russians. | ||
| He killed millions of his own people. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| These people on the surface can give this propaganda, but eventually the truth is written by the victor. | ||
| It is true. | ||
| At the end of the day, this is true. | ||
| So like you win, you get to write the history of what happened, right? | ||
| But I don't think that'll happen here. | ||
| You know, like they have been so obtuse and, you know, that they've really, they've been overachievers with the amount of destruction that they've waged at the end of the day. | ||
| And then you're going to go and build like a golden city on top of a graveyard, essentially. | ||
| I don't think that's the case anymore because if you look at the peace deal, that Trump is like, you know, that little cabinet that he's heading. | ||
| And then I think Tony Blair is the guy who's going to be like the governor. | ||
| Colonial governor. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, the way that they lay it out, they said that the Gazans can stay there. | ||
| And anyone in Palestine that wants to stay in their place, they can stay there. | ||
| But if they rebuild them, they have to rebuild for the people that want to stay there, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And like, this is, this is the thing that always made sense to me, right? | ||
| Growing up, you know, people really hated me because of my dad and because of 9-11. | ||
| It wasn't like, and it's so funny because people only now have a context of politics through the lens of Trump. | ||
| Like they either like Trump from day one or hated him from day one or were sick of him from day one. | ||
| There's no in-between from those three positions. | ||
| But growing up, it was the Bush thing and the 9-11 thing and how dare your dad say this isn't real and how dare he say the wars are fake and how dare he say that we shouldn't be over there. | ||
| Like I used to hear this all the time when I was little. | ||
| And at the end of the day, the truth comes out about all these things. | ||
| And now it's a very common position to go like, hey, 9-11, how did that end up happening? | ||
| Same with JFK. | ||
| Like everyone's like, oh, no, it's one guy. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| And then now you have like reports that, oh, there might be a second gunner. | ||
| Oh, definitely. | ||
| I mean, magic bullet bounces around his body, seven exit wounds. | ||
| It's all insane. | ||
| And it's when we get told this Star Wars story about things. | ||
| It's like rebel alliance versus the empire. | ||
| Nowhere is this more clear than the Ukraine-Russia conflict, right? | ||
| Because they go, you know, like the Ukrainian memes and like the badass, like, you know, like the techno music over them. | ||
| And it's like, it's like cyberpunk. | ||
| Oh, the drone jammer on his back. | ||
| It's so cool. | ||
| It's like cyberpunk. | ||
| the ghost of Kiev and the Ukrainians are fighting the evil Russian empire and all this stuff. | ||
| In reality, both sides are bad in the sense that bad means they have their own self-interest. | ||
| It's just one side has overwhelmingly more weapons, has overwhelmingly more resources and has overwhelmingly, honestly, a better position for us to ally with them. | ||
| And we're choosing the bad place because it's an opportunity to launder money, right? | ||
| Ukraine is like worse off than Russia. | ||
| They don't have the rare earth minerals, all the rare earth minerals. | ||
| They're in that Donbass region that's really already been taken by Russia. | ||
| Russia has stated since day one, since the Istanbul peace agreement, that they only want those three regions. | ||
| They're not interested in taking the whole of Ukraine. | ||
| It would be a nightmare for them. | ||
| It would be a century-long insurgency because the people in Western Ukraine, they don't see themselves as Russian. | ||
| They have like a Polish or Lithuanian background. | ||
| That's why they're there at the end of the day, or they're true native Ukrainians. | ||
| The people in Donetsk, Luhansk, and Kherson, they speak Russian. | ||
| They're ethnic Russian people and they voted to leave. | ||
| They voted to leave in 2014. | ||
| And there was a government that was friendly to letting them do that. | ||
| But then the West comes in, Victoria Newland, and others, and we go, hey, y'all aren't going to do this, guys. | ||
| And then we topple that regime and we bring in new people. | ||
| Like it's so insane that Zelensky flew to Istanbul and was going to sign this peace agreement to just let those regions not even be a part of Russia, but to just be independent. | ||
| And then Boris Johnson, the ex-UK prime minister, representation of this global hydra, right? | ||
| This Western Hydra, he goes over there and he goes, no, we're going to back you to the hill. | ||
| We're going to give you all this money. | ||
| We're going to give you all these weapons. | ||
| We are going to support you. | ||
| And now you look at the country. | ||
| You can make all kinds of arguments for Ukraine, but they've lost over a million people. | ||
| They say the Russians have lost over a million people. | ||
| I don't believe that. | ||
| I don't believe that it's less, but it's in the hundreds of thousands. | ||
| Yeah, but from every expert I see, especially people on Judge Napolitano's channel, it's just the numbers they give aren't realistic. | ||
| The Russians have even changed the way they fight the war now, where they'll have like a Ukrainian squadron or like larger group of people, like 100 people or a couple dozen people. | ||
| They'll send in a crew of three Russians, but they'll have overwhelming air support and border support and drone support. | ||
| They'll take the area and then they'll end up sending six people in after them. | ||
| It's called the 3-6 strategy. | ||
| Well, they learned that after. | ||
| At the beginning, they took most of their casualties. | ||
| Yeah, I would agree with that. | ||
| And at the beginning, Ukraine had more weapons. | ||
| They had more men. | ||
| They had more munitions. | ||
| The population of Ukraine at the beginning of the war was close to 50 million people. | ||
| Now they're down to like 25. | ||
| But also, what I mean by at the beginning is Russia grossly underestimated the Ukrainians and what the rest of the war was going to do. | ||
| And so like they went in all in, put all these weapons in there, a lot of these tank systems. | ||
| And they did have a conscription where they were trying to force some of the Russians to not maybe flipped. | ||
| The Russians voluntarily, they get between 30 and 36,000 soldiers to fight every month that voluntarily sign up to be a part of their military. | ||
| Ukraine has experienced, you can ask ChatGPT or about or Grok about it, like I did. | ||
| And I have this retweeted on my profile. | ||
| They've lost over 100,000 people this year that have that have run away. | ||
| They lose over 700 a day. | ||
| And it can't win like that. | ||
| And all the footage of like the Star Wars music and the wonder weapons and all these things. | ||
| Oh, the flamingo missile. | ||
| Oh, the weapon tank. | ||
| We're going to, we're going to really change it this time. | ||
| It's not going to work out that way. | ||
| Putin has still has an open hand. | ||
| It's just like, hey, we won this. | ||
| We're going to end this. | ||
| We don't want to take your whole country. | ||
| We have nukes. | ||
| You don't. | ||
| Just give it up. | ||
| And then the West just goes, no, we're going to send you more weapons, more weapons, more weapons. | ||
| The Europeans have promised Ukraine like 120 billion, but then they say, oh, like this is going to be a loan, but we're not going to count it against the numbers in our books because when Ukraine wins, we're just going to take the money from Russia. | ||
| Just make the calculation. | ||
| And then on the West side, like we act like we're a part of this Star Wars story and we want to save these people, but we just want their resources. | ||
| That is the biggest raw minerals. | ||
| We want the minerals, but we also want to go in there and rebuild the country, right? | ||
| At the end of the day. | ||
| That's money, guys. | ||
| Anytime you give a loan for building and rebuilding, you've got a lot of these outside government entities and private businesses that generate a ton of money because who's going to provide the concrete? | ||
| Who's going to provide the steel? | ||
| Who's going to provide the infrastructure and all the things? | ||
| And they're obviously going to build it like the West and how we have these buildings. | ||
| So that means money for America. | ||
| That means you get to basically ingrain yourself even more into a country because they're desperate. | ||
| It's so terrifying now. | ||
| As I went and did this deep dive into World War II, I just realized how correlations. | ||
| Yes, I forgot. | ||
| I didn't even realize how much I forgot. | ||
| I was like, if I were to just put today and what happened, you know, back in the 1920s and 30s, 100 years ago, I'm like, dude, everything's playing out the same as it did. | ||
| Maybe a little bit, certain differences, a little certain differences, but enough. | ||
| Huh? | ||
| Faster now because we have more modern stuff. | ||
| It's just, it's terrifying. | ||
| I'm like, dude, everyone's positioning themselves and there's a bunch of these micro little conflicts. | ||
| And then the biggest thing is financial instability and people not happy with their government and recessions and stuff. | ||
| And it all stacks up to making people unhappy before, you know, these rebellions and you get the wrong people in and all this stuff happens. | ||
| So yeah, I mean, stick till the end because we're going to really do a deep dive into that after Matt Baker comes on. | ||
| But like, I just, I'm like, holy World War III, it's happening. | ||
| I have no doubt in my mind. | ||
| How does that start? | ||
| What's your bet? | ||
| We're just making predictions here. | ||
| I got my idea. | ||
| I want to hear yours really. | ||
| You think it's Iran, right? | ||
| I do. | ||
| Because of the intersection of trade, right? | ||
| China, their big issue is they only have one ocean where they can really do trade and it's surrounded by a bunch of United States allies like the Philippines, Japan, South Korea. | ||
| They've got to find a way to get their land rail to be able to export their goods and their products over to Africa and these other areas where they've made resource deals. | ||
| And all that runs through Iran. | ||
| My prediction is China, Taiwan. | ||
| That's, you know, it's crazy because everyone wants to sit here and talk about Iran. | ||
| Everyone wants to talk about Israel. | ||
| Everyone wants to talk about. | ||
| No one wants to talk about China. | ||
| China's a real important place. | ||
| We got to talk about China. | ||
| And it's so crazy. | ||
| I wish I got one call a week talking about China. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, go ahead. | ||
| No, but like, look, Ukraine is the big thing that's happening in front of it. | ||
| And like, the thing is, like, people don't understand how much China has been arming themselves and producing military equipment. | ||
| And they have like the active reserves that they have are insane and the technology that they're building up. | ||
| And they're pretty much, they know. | ||
| They said, there's no doubt in our mind. | ||
| We're taking Taiwan, whether you like it or not. | ||
| And so they get to just sit back, have their hands like this, kick their feet up, see all the chaos, be like, oh, we condemn, you know, the U.S. for doing this and that. | ||
| But in the meanwhile, they're playing chess and they're just like, okay, we just need to keep building up till we have the perfect strategy to take this over. | ||
| And then it's inevitable. | ||
| Because here's the thing. | ||
| If they go in, if China takes over Taiwan, the U.S. has no choice but to go in there and try to prevent that. | ||
| Because the thing is, is those advanced chips, guys. | ||
| We did a whole show on this where we talked about it. | ||
| We did. | ||
| Talk about the percentages. | ||
| Those 90 to 95% of the chips manufactured, the advanced ones across the entire global state of the art. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Come from Taiwan. | ||
| And these are the things that are going into AI. | ||
| These are the things going into the, you know, the quantum level computers, the things that are super smoke particle look giant. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And so the thing is, is we've tried to offset the manufacturing for the chips to bring them over here to the United States. | ||
| And I actually found out recently, like we tried to get Taiwan to agree to do a 50% of the chips being brought over here. | ||
| I have that paper. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 50% of the chips being made over here. | ||
| They said no. | ||
| They're like, we're not doing that. | ||
| We can give you some of it and some of it is coming here to Texas. | ||
| But TSMC, which is the main guy to create all of these and create the manufacturing hub, takes a long time to build these guys. | ||
| It takes. | ||
| billions of dollars and tens of thousands of people in order to move these operations. | ||
| That stuff is staying in Taiwan for the foreseeable future. | ||
| And that's what's going to kick this off. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I totally agree with that, Tim. | ||
| I want to read a couple of comments. | ||
| I saw one little juicy goodie up here. | ||
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| And that's my own brand. | ||
| It's Texas-made, locally manufactured, locally sourced CBD. | ||
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| Yes. | ||
| Really appreciate it. | ||
| It supports Rex directly. | ||
| So it supports the show. | ||
| I got the likes in here and stuff. | ||
| No, I'm saying in general, we like to see the support and it's not going to some random Joe show. | ||
| Oh, indeed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Rex, do you and your dad get threats for being at the tip of the spear of the InfoWar? | ||
| Give us a glimpse at what it's like for you guys. | ||
| Alex does not like to talk about it much. | ||
| Longtime fan. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, like weekly to daily death threats, a lot of like attempted break-ins at the property, both the studio and at home. | ||
| You know, just a lot of societal outrage too. | ||
| Less now, you know, people like my dad. | ||
| People like Alex a lot more than they used to. | ||
| I mean, the first Trump administration, it was pretty rough, you know, especially at the law fair, the deplatforming. | ||
| It's really tough, you know, and like going out to eat with him at a restaurant is always a roll of the dice. | ||
| You know, you might get someone that says, like, I love you. | ||
| You're phenomenal. | ||
| You might also get someone that says, you're a demon. | ||
| I hate you. | ||
| Your children should die. | ||
| This is what it's like. | ||
| But unfortunately, you know, like people are people. | ||
| People have strong emotions. | ||
| And it is what it is at the end of the day. | ||
| Like we live in Texas. | ||
| We're safe here. | ||
| We're protected here. | ||
| People can't really like attack you here because they might die. | ||
| And that's what it comes down to at the end of the day for us. | ||
| Great question. | ||
| Evening to you, Jefferson. | ||
| Hello, Ziero. | ||
| Been downloading your new podcast, Info Warriors Reporting. | ||
| Stay alert, stay alive. | ||
| Thank you so much for that, Zero. | ||
| Yeah, he looks better now than ever. | ||
| Read that one. | ||
| 1.4K watching and has 14 reposts. | ||
| What the fuck are you people doing? | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| We got good viewership here tonight. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| It apparently really hard to grow the silicon chips, even if you follow the exact same instructions. | ||
| Yeah, it's an art, not a science. | ||
| Yeah, Rebels In is cool, but Rebels In is my dad's brand. | ||
| It doesn't have supplement formulas in them. | ||
| I got a nootropic blend. | ||
| It's got nootropic in it. | ||
| I've got sleep blend, which has sleep ingredients in it. | ||
| And then I've got Nano CBD, which is emulsified CBD, which is like 80 to 90% bioavailable. | ||
| The oil-based CBD is great and I sell it, but the problem is you have to leave it under your tongue for like 15 to 30 minutes to get the sublingual absorption, which is how you really get the effect. | ||
| The cool thing about the ultra green is you just take a dropper of it and then instantly you get the anti-anxiety, the anziolytic, the anti-inflammatory, the joint pain benefits from it. | ||
| You don't have to hold it in your mouth. | ||
| Some people don't like to hold it in their mouth, right? | ||
| So I have three different versions all targeted to various different aspects of what people want. | ||
| You want something awake, make you focus, take the ultra-chill. | ||
| You want something to help you sleep and really anti-anxiety, relax, take the dream wave. | ||
| You want kind of cornucopia CBD benefits at higher absorption level, you take the ultra green. | ||
| Make a mushroom CBD. | ||
| Yeah, I've looked at it. | ||
| The problem is a lot of those blends aren't stable with the CBD. | ||
| That's not a bad idea, incognito. | ||
| Sadly, I was disappointed in the methylene blue. | ||
| I noticed nothing except blue piss looking at CMOS, though. | ||
| I mean, some people just don't feel it, right? | ||
| Yeah, you explained something to me about this. | ||
| Like everyone's body works. | ||
| Your mitochondria have different DNA, right? | ||
| In different populations across the world, they have different, you know, levels of mitochondrial integrity. | ||
| There's a lot of gene mutations because the mitochondria has its own DNA. | ||
| Like Myron Gaines, he's a guy. | ||
| He's from Sudan. | ||
| He's black like you, right? | ||
| And he came on the show and he's like, hey, like, you know, I know this stuff is great. | ||
| My doctor tells me that it's great, but, you know, I don't feel these like benefits that everyone else is talking about. | ||
| It just means your mitochondria is doing really good. | ||
| You got mitochondrial issues ultimately. | ||
| You take this stuff and it's really powerful, but it's got a ton of benefits in regards to energy and nootropic value and overall body health that aren't necessarily tied to an immediate feeling of like feeling amazing, right? | ||
| So it's just, it's an interesting compound. | ||
| You got to do your own research on it. | ||
| That's what we always say is to do your own research on methylene blue. | ||
| It is a phenomenal ingredient, a phenomenal compound, but it is something you have to learn about more. | ||
| Did Vasso beets? | ||
| It's the best. | ||
| I didn't design that product. | ||
| You know, I'll probably, we'll probably bring that product back. | ||
| It's like a high quality nitric oxide blend. | ||
| It's just like pure beetroot extract. | ||
| It's very easy to manufacture, very like cost efficient, cost effective, and people really loved it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So we should look at doing that again. | ||
| That's a great comment. | ||
| I've taken so much Adderall. | ||
| I literally have no soul left. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| How dopamine receptors can be resensitized? | ||
| That's a hard process because dopamine receptors, they downregulate over time. | ||
| And like ultimately, whenever you feel euphoric or feel really good, that's a feeling you should fight. | ||
| And that's why things like weed are especially bad because it downregulates your dopamine at the end of the day. | ||
| You never want to like feel euphoric. | ||
| That can be real dangerous. | ||
| No, yeah. | ||
| You should basically feel high. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You should try to feel like really good all the time. | ||
| Never like really great. | ||
| You're like, oh, yeah, this is fucking awesome. | ||
| Yeah, because then you got to make new highs. | ||
| And that's when you get in trouble. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Quality canine CBD. | ||
| Americans spend big on their animals. | ||
| And we're seeing tenfold ailments after the combination of vaccines roll out, causing cancers, arthritis. | ||
| Yeah, you know, it's definitely something to look into. | ||
| Definitely something I agree with. | ||
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| Amphetamines are the worst for body and soul. | ||
| I mean, the Nazis love them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hitler was taking a lot of stuff, guys. | ||
| Yeah, not just that. | ||
| I mean, like the soldiers, like that's where they were. | ||
| That's what they're able to get through those French forests so fast because they were just like popping, popping them, giving them more. | ||
| They're able to stay up for three nights in a tank, you know. | ||
| That'll make you conquer Paris. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They are, unfortunately, everyone is on them at most universities. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you got to do the research paper. | ||
| You got to study. | ||
| You know, you got to be amped up for that. | ||
| Thank you for everybody who reposted. | ||
| We appreciate that. | ||
| Yeah, we really appreciate it. | ||
| We appreciate everyone that reposts the stream. | ||
| We got a lot of live viewers, so please repost the stream. | ||
| We're going to be joined by Matt Baker here in about 10 minutes. | ||
| We're really looking forward to that, guys. | ||
| It's going to be a phenomenal interview. | ||
| I want to talk to him about his experience at the No Kings protest, his political experiences, especially during COVID and what he was doing to really war against the city councils with all the draconian restrictions that were going on. | ||
| And I also really want to talk to him about how he feels about the modern political landscape because I know he shares a lot of our same views on, you know, just the general situation not being what we were promised or the best. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, he does. | ||
| So really looking forward to that. | ||
| We're going to be joined by him in about 10 minutes. | ||
| He can hop on a little earlier if he wants to. | ||
| We send him the link. | ||
| So Matt, if you're watching this, feel free to join anytime. | ||
| We're waiting for you now and we appreciate you. | ||
| But we'll read a few more comments. | ||
| I can't even enjoy weed anymore. | ||
| I smoked a bit when I was younger, liked it then, hate it now. | ||
| It's a common experience. | ||
| It's good that you're off of it at the end of the day. | ||
| You know, the problem, the only thing I have a problem with weed is not the fact that people take it. | ||
| It's the ones that take it and they preach like, oh, it's not addictive. | ||
| It's amazing, man. | ||
| It's the best thing ever, dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, like, seriously, it's cheap happiness at the end of the day. | ||
| It makes you happy with your current situation. | ||
| And you should always be trying to get better, you know, at the end of the day. | ||
| People develop that dependency on it. | ||
| And they like, I don't like what I feel like when I'm not high because it's not, you know, controlling my demons. | ||
| Cause that's what it does. | ||
| It really does suppress a lot of the things that are going on, but it's not fixing the core issues. | ||
| So people get really afraid to face their demons when it comes to those. | ||
| And also you build tolerance. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And this doesn't come from an educated perspective. | ||
| I know, Tim, you're a very cautious guy about what you're family conscious. | ||
| I am not. | ||
| I'll be honest with you. | ||
| And I've lived in Austin, Texas all my life. | ||
| I smoked a lot of weed, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| I'm sober now. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| And he's a lot happier for it. | ||
| A lot happier for he's like vitality 10. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would have to say, if you're doing that, you should quit. | ||
| And that's just like, I had a lot of experience with it. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| And it's not the benign thing that they tell you it is. | ||
| And go ahead. | ||
| I've tried, I've done edibles like every once in a while, like every like couple years. | ||
| I'll be like, let me try this again, you know? | ||
| And this, each time I just like, whack, it just hits me in the face. | ||
| And I'm like, I feel stupid for like two days after. | ||
| And I'm like, I can't function. | ||
| I'm like, I hate this feeling. | ||
| And it's like a reset to be like, okay, yeah, this is why you don't do it in the first place. | ||
| Right. | ||
| As entrepreneurs, what is your best advice for someone about to start their own business? | ||
| Know what you're trying to get into. | ||
| Like, know the spit, you got to have a specific plan and honestly start out niche. | ||
| That would be my advice is to pick one thing to get really good at doing, whatever that good or service is that you're going to provide and know that you're going to have the highest quality of it so you can sell that. | ||
| It's easy to sell high quality stuff. | ||
| It's very hard to be like, oh, I'm t-shirt printing. | ||
| I'm going to become a millionaire t-shirt printer. | ||
| Everyone's a t-shirt printer. | ||
| My advice for you is at the end of the day, anything that anyone sells, you have to solve a problem. | ||
| That's what it all comes down to. | ||
| People will not buy if they don't have a reason to buy. | ||
| And the thing is, is you have to be giving people genuine value out of the thing or whatever product that you're trying to sell. | ||
| And then you also need to have a strong brand behind it because there's a lot of these people that drop ship ship these like garbage brands and things like that that they don't have any real passion behind. | ||
| And humans are seeing past that these days. | ||
| And consumers are getting smart. | ||
| They don't want to just get something AI takes as well. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So here's the thing. | ||
| If you're getting into business, you build something, you can kind of have a little bit of a moat because they can take the same product, but they can never take the brand that you create behind the product, as well as your messaging and how you cater that to a specific audience. | ||
| But yes, you start niche and then you grow outwards. | ||
| A great question here from Battleman. | ||
| What should I do when I'm 17 years old? | ||
| Protect your innocence, protect your time, and maximize skill acquisition. | ||
| Learn all these stuff. | ||
| So true. | ||
| When I was 17, I wasn't just going out and starting my first business all of a sudden. | ||
| I just experimented with learning the building blocks that it took. | ||
| You also pursued education. | ||
| I pursued education. | ||
| I went to college. | ||
| College is a good thing only if you're going for STEM or like some type of like medical, which I did. | ||
| I went for mechanical engineering. | ||
| It pays dividends. | ||
| It's smart there. | ||
| If you're going for anthropology or art history, like forget it. | ||
| Waste of fucking money. | ||
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| And all those people end up becoming like librarians or something. | ||
| That's like completely different. | ||
| But at the end of the day, the skill acquisition is big. | ||
| Learn sales, learn marketing, learn communication. | ||
| Like those are your three pillars that if you can master those while you're just learning, they can apply into like any business that you start, especially at 17. | ||
| You've got a lot of life left. | ||
| You can really do that. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Provide value. | ||
| That's really a lot of what it comes down to. | ||
| You got to have something good. | ||
| It's good service, whatever sector. | ||
| It's got to be good. | ||
| And you got to really learn how to promote it, how to do it. | ||
| Because ultimately, if you're going to be an entrepreneur, you're honestly, you're going to sell something. | ||
| That's what you're going to do. | ||
| You're going to sell either a service, you're going to sell a product, you're going to sell, you know, maybe the branding behind like a message, or you are the brand where you are selling. | ||
| You know, there's the different avenues you can go. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I'm just getting into things. | ||
| I'm going to be a consultant. | ||
| I'm going to consult with people. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You hit something that is my pet peeve. | ||
| I see a lot of people doing coaching nowadays. | ||
| It pisses me off. | ||
| It like literally pisses me off because what I see a lot of people do and don't do this. | ||
| I swear to God, please do not do this. | ||
| Don't go and kind of learn something and then stop doing that thing without having like years worth of experience and then just drop everything and be like, oh, I'm going to go teach other people how to do this and make money from the courses rather than the thing that you're selling. | ||
| If you're like a multi-million millionaire already and you've got your stuff figured out and you've created a product and you've tested in the marketplace and you've made something of value and then you want to just out of the generosity, go and like give other people that chance and you're charging them. | ||
| Sure, that's fine. | ||
| But what I see a lot of these coaches do, it's like a big circle jerk of selling like these products that aren't even something that they've built themselves. | ||
| And they go and post in their little Lamborghini and they're a big house and they're like, oh, look at all this money, but I made it grifting you guys off of this course that does not give you that. | ||
| It ultimately doesn't cost anything to make a course. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| But it's, it's a high return and how quickly because your overhead is like nothing. | ||
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| And I'll make this point really quick. | ||
| Like, yes, I sell CBD. | ||
| Yes, I sell methylene blue. | ||
| Yes, I sell supplements, especially with the CBD and methylene blue. | ||
| And some of the supplements, I also promote supplements for my dad that I formulated and come up with them. | ||
| And I work with Bigley in that respect, especially with the CBD. | ||
| Guys, I have a lot of inventory. | ||
| That's a decision that I made because I say, hey, this is really good. | ||
| This is the highest quality. | ||
| I know I'm going to be able to sell it. | ||
| I'm going to have skin in the game. | ||
| I'm going to buy this. | ||
| I own this. | ||
| I made this. | ||
| This is mine. | ||
| So if it doesn't sell, that's on me. | ||
| But if it sells, it's also on me. | ||
| It's not a thing of like, oh, I can type up a course and I sell the course to people. | ||
| And then you don't care. | ||
| Yeah, they don't care. | ||
| They don't care at all. | ||
| They don't care at all. | ||
| I'm going to use the bathroom. | ||
| Yo, go ahead. | ||
| We're doing shifts. | ||
| I have to do as well. | ||
| But yeah, I mean, exactly. | ||
| The thing I see so much of in the modern environment is people looking for like, you know, a get-rich quick scheme, a way to just somehow ascend to the highest level really quick, a way to figure out, hey, you know, I'm going to grift or get over on people and I'm going to like just a get rich quick scheme, rob the bank. | ||
| I'm going to do this one thing and then I'm going to get out. | ||
| The only way any of this works when you're in business, just really in life too, is you have to have the lived experience. | ||
| You have to have the life experience to get really good at whatever genre or sector you work in. | ||
| And then once you have enough of that, whether it's 5,000 hours, 10,000 hours, maybe a little less, maybe a little more, you're then able to take that learned experience and then apply it to your own business and go into business for yourself. | ||
| You should seek out a mentor. | ||
| I'm a big believer in this. | ||
| You should find someone that knows a lot and then kind of learn from them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Any sector. | ||
| To piggyback off of him. | ||
| Oh, we got to do a whole segment on business because I love giving value to you guys. | ||
| Like he's right about the fast, get rich, quick schemes don't work. | ||
| Slow is fast and fast is slow. | ||
| It's a very true thing. | ||
| Most people only really hit their stride in business after like year like five to 10. | ||
| Like it takes years to get really good at something and figure out the code of your own way. | ||
| But at the end of the day, the thing that can get you there quicker and help you learn faster is the mentor. | ||
| And it's also the leverage of other people and building it's networking. | ||
| It's building a system. | ||
| That's true because we both know people. | ||
| We both know people. | ||
| And a lot of the biggest successes that I've ever had was because I learned something from somebody who was already doing that thing. | ||
| You don't have to be glamorous and go out there and try to be like those Silicon Valley guys who are just like, oh, I'm going to start a business on my own. | ||
| But at the end of the day, we'll come back to this. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, we've got a house on the wings. | ||
| I'm going to go ahead and add him to the stage here. | ||
| But before I do that, I'm going to read it. | ||
| Matt, I'm going to read a little intro. | ||
| Do a little thing. | ||
| Sounds good to me. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| We can hear you. | ||
| You can hear us. | ||
| Yes, indeed. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I feel like I need to shrink myself down smaller so I can fit into your universe. | ||
| No, you're looking good, man. | ||
| I like the dreads. | ||
| I'll be giant. | ||
| Matt Baker is a renowned civil activist and outspoken patriot from San Diego, California, known for his fierce advocacy against government overreach, medical mandates, and what he describes as technocratic tyranny. | ||
| As the founder of the Slave to Liberty clothing line, a brand that blends streetwear with revolutionary symbolism, featuring iconic designs like the Mass Statue of Liberty emblazoned with his signature Slave to Liberty, Baker has built a devoted following across social media platforms, including X, under the handle Slave to Liberty, where he sports over 160,000 followers. | ||
| Rising to a national prominence during the COVID-19 pandemic, Baker became a viral sensation in 2020 with his electrifying speech at a San Diego City Council meeting, where he boldly declared officials on notice for imposing lockdowns and vaccine requirements, urging citizens to reclaim their freedoms. | ||
| Dubbed the California Viking for his Viking-inspired beard and unyielding warrior spirit, he has since become a fixture at anti-mandate rallies across the West Coast, from ocean beach gatherings to high-profile protests in Arizona and beyond. | ||
| This has earned him appearances on platforms like Infowars, OAN, and independent podcasts such as White Rabbit and Rebunk News, where he dives deep into topics ranging from WHO influence to the dangers of digital currencies and transhumanism. | ||
| Matt, it's so good to be here with you tonight. | ||
| What's up, brother? | ||
| Wow, that was really good. | ||
| That can't have been Grok that we spent time on that. | ||
| It was a little bit of Grok, but I know of you and I know you. | ||
| So I edited it a little bit to sound better. | ||
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I'll be honest. | |
| That's pretty good. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| You have to send that to me. | ||
| I might have to send that over as my press release. | ||
| That's a promise. | ||
| Hey, look, it's pretty good. | ||
| You know, at InfoWars at the Infowars Studios, you know, my daddy knows everyone that comes on and whatnot, but he's also, he also has Daria write something like that to help him out. | ||
| So I was like, huh, I'll have Grok be my Daria today. | ||
| I'll have it figure this out for me and figure out how to do it concise and still good. | ||
| But I'm glad you liked it. | ||
| I saw you at the No Kings protest. | ||
| How was that, man? | ||
| Well, you know, I got, I got called out by my buddy. | ||
| I actually, I actually posted, that was a No Kings protest from earlier this year. | ||
| I was actually working, physically making money because I don't make money doing this, you know? | ||
| So no matter how much work I put in, it's a tough road. | ||
| Actually, I was going to, I was, I was just kind of warming up my audience or your audience over on my channel. | ||
| I did a little StreamYard live and I was like, I was like coming in and out of your show saying, hey, come over here. | ||
| So hopefully we get some numbers pumping up over here in a second. | ||
| But yeah, that was actually from earlier this year, but it was about the same size, you know? | ||
| And honestly, you know, it wasn't bad. | ||
| You know, they're definitely misguided, but you got to love how well they managed to get themselves together because during COVID, when we used to do rallies and we used to do marches and stuff, man, you'd be lucky to get a few hundred people out there. | ||
| Some of the biggest marches we ever did, you know, but these guys, man, they know how to get, they know how to get numbers with the George Soros money and they put websites together and they spread the word and we could learn from them. | ||
| You know, we could learn from them a lot on how to deal with this. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Isn't it interesting how they've like, they're trying to, they hated the American flag forever. | ||
| They said, you're a white nationalist. | ||
| You're a MA supremacist if you use the American flag. | ||
| But now all I see out in Forest are like these old boomers and these fat ladies and they're waving the American flag. | ||
| I was driving under the underpass and I saw this huge lady and she was doing like the full wave with it. | ||
| And I was like, that's quite interesting. | ||
| That's quite interesting. | ||
| In a way, it's kind of, you know, it's, it's a big topic because in a way, I feel good about it because even though they're stealing our symbolism, it's like it's, it's getting into their head whether it's like an earworm one way or another. | ||
| Like, now they're talking about the founding fathers. | ||
| Now they're talking about the constitution. | ||
| And so even if they're misreading or whatever, if their kids go around, like, yeah, let's read about the constitution. | ||
| Let's read about the founding fathers. | ||
| And, you know, it's a gateway drug to, because we own that topic, you know what I mean? | ||
| If they, it's like, you know, trying to talk about, you know, you know, Jews to Stew Peters or to Nick Fuentes. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's like, if you bring up the topic, they're, well, let me have a look at this. | ||
| And then they look it up like, oh, this is what's really going on. | ||
| You know, it opens that whole world for them. | ||
| So as much as they're co-opting it, I think it's, it's, it's, it's good in a way. | ||
| Man, I'm, I'm curious, like, what is your perspective just on the concept of the no-king situation? | ||
| Like, I'm sure you have your own opinions about Trump. | ||
| You have your own opinions about everything that's happening with, you know, the tariffs, all of the craziness that's happening, the wars. | ||
| Like you, as your own individual, like, how do you feel about everything? | ||
| And do you feel like these protests are justified? | ||
| Give me a breakdown of your honest opinion. | ||
| Well, I mean, as somebody who protests, I really don't really like it when people are like, what are they doing protesting? | ||
| It's like, I agree. | ||
| I think the fact that they're capable of doing it and getting those numbers out, it's kind of this giant topic that I, it's going to be hard for me to spit it all out, but it kind of ties into if I could somehow tie it into your podcast thing about Nick Fuentes and him talking about, you know, possibly being a gatekeeper of people doing podcasts. | ||
| The thing is, on the on the right wing, we're supposed to be, or, you know, we're supposed to be the freedom-orientated, free-market, you know, capitalist side of things. | ||
| But when it comes to actually getting shit done for our causes, there's no money. | ||
| There's zero money. | ||
| There's zero organization. | ||
| When it comes to the left, they've got money for days for protests and for people like any little weirdo who's got a tiny following. | ||
| They'll give him a bunch of money to and pump up their accounts or give them a studio or give them a show. | ||
| Like if you want to go out and spout, you know, pro-Israel stuff or pro-LGBTQ stuff or any of this stuff. | ||
| They get to 7,000. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The money is there. | ||
| The money's there. | ||
| The shows are there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's NGOs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why don't we on the right wing, you know, the people like Andrew Tate going, oh, I've got too much money. | ||
| I don't know what to spend it on. | ||
| And someone's like, well, you could buy influencers. | ||
| It's like, why don't rich people who want to save the country who are free market, why don't they actually go out and put some money into into a show like, you know, Rex Jones show or into a Matt Baker show or something like that. | ||
| You make an excellent point. | ||
| And this is the point I always make when I'm doing kind of like I jokingly, but not jokingly, I call it Alex Jones apologetics because, you know, a lot of people, they don't have the real frame of reference for my dad for Alex Jones. | ||
| They don't really know his whole history. | ||
| So they come in like in like the post-COVID environment and they see him, you know, yelling, ranting, like selling supplements and different products. | ||
| And they go, he's a grifter. | ||
| He's doing XYZ. | ||
| All I do is see him read ads. | ||
| You don't understand. | ||
| That's the only true independent guy in media because that's how he built his massive operation was selling products. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then you see everyone else and they got, you know, like an affiliate code for something and they're all reading a code for the same thing. | ||
| And they don't know really what it is or what it does, but it's what they do. | ||
| They do the show so they can make money. | ||
| And then we make money so that we can do the show. | ||
| And, you know, that added that attitude and that atmosphere, I grew up with at Infowars and I would always try to find it in other people. | ||
| And there really are just like the establishment right and the establishment left. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| On the establishment right, they're hoarding all the cash. | ||
| They just want to become like these rich facelords at the end of the day. | ||
| Yeah, or like people like Andrew Taint. | ||
| It's like I call him Andrew Taint, you know, who I think is actually the new Jeffrey Epstein. | ||
| I think he's he's got the yacht, he's got the whores. | ||
| You know, you go hang out with him, smoke cigars on his yacht, and the next thing you know, you're yeah, you wake up naked next to someone, the camera's there. | ||
| I wouldn't go anywhere near his yachts, man. | ||
| I mean, you know, all those little whores he's got, you know, or you pay a bunch of money to get your ass beat inside of a ring while he punches in your face all over. | ||
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Yeah, but he doesn't have any money. | |
| He doesn't, he doesn't help. | ||
| He doesn't put any affiliates out. | ||
| The only, he just wants to be the most searched guy on the internet. | ||
| He wants to be the guy that's talking about, you know, you remember him at the peak of his mirality, though. | ||
| He was huge. | ||
| He was everywhere. | ||
| You couldn't go anywhere without seeing his face. | ||
| When was that? | ||
| That was a couple years ago. | ||
| That was in 2021 through 2020 to 2022 was like his biggest. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| I was in the Infowar studio when Rob Dew came in and he's like, he's the most searched person on the internet. | ||
| He's like literally the most famous person in the world. | ||
| It's funny because he's got all these whores and he has all these planes and he's got all these yachts and he's got all these cars, but he's got all this time just to go into the ins and outs of details about daily life. | ||
| It's like, bro, just bang your whores, drive your cars, go on your yacht. | ||
| Like, don't worry about it. | ||
| You know, if you really want to actually change the world, then maybe you should be putting invest your money into this world instead of investing your money into whores and it is interesting. | ||
| It is interesting to be like, yeah, I have so many cars. | ||
| I can't even buy a new one because I already have them all. | ||
| But then at the same time, you're all about political action, but you won't fund political action. | ||
| You won't support political action. | ||
| That is, that's an interesting take. | ||
| I agree with that, Matt. | ||
| Well, here's my perspective on this. | ||
| I'd say now he's lost the point, but there was a time period like around 2020 where like masculinity and a lot of these other topics were not being talked about. | ||
| And the thing I can appreciate Andrew Tate for was the fact that he brought like the fact that all these lost young men didn't have any direction. | ||
| And I don't support the stuff where he has them go and do like crazy stuff and like beat women or anything like that. | ||
| It's the stuff of like just you need to work stop being a soldier. | ||
| I'm just fooled to choke women again. | ||
| He's like, you want to be rich? | ||
| You all be rich. | ||
| You all have a yacht. | ||
| Yeah, how you choke, choke a woman. | ||
| Where is your Bugatti? | ||
| You don't have a Bugatti. | ||
| I've got a Bugatti. | ||
| None of us have Bugattis. | ||
| We're not going to talk about morality. | ||
| Where's the morality in this world? | ||
| I mean, you don't choke bitches. | ||
| You know, I don't know. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then I think there's a typical morality from a guy that became a Muslim so he could be a polygamist and choke women. | ||
| That, Matt, that's literally what I was about to say. | ||
| You read my mind. | ||
| Yeah, that's that's literally what I was about to say. | ||
| You know, he starts looking into Christianity and goes, oh, I can only have one wife. | ||
| Then he just goes over to Islam. | ||
| And a lot of these guys do this. | ||
| We're like, yeah, you know, I want to have four wives. | ||
| So I'll just do this. | ||
| And also in England, if they roll him up, they're just like, he's like, oh, I'm in Islam. | ||
| You know, you're like, that's a good point. | ||
| That is a good point. | ||
| Diplomatic immunity by means of religion. | ||
| Diplomatic immunity. | ||
| One more thing. | ||
| Each subscription, he gets like a hundred bucks per month per subscription. | ||
| And he's got like hundreds of thousands of students in his war room. | ||
| So that's really where he drives that message because it keeps funneling in these kids, essentially. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| And personally, I see that he's actually taking advantage of the kids just like he takes advantage of the whore. | ||
| He's like a vampire. | ||
| He does, you know, he doesn't actually try to physically build these things. | ||
| He finds people. | ||
| It's almost like a preacher, you know, that's like, I'm going to bring in a Jesus, like Kenneth Copeland. | ||
| It's just a different variety. | ||
| But personally, I almost think he could be a full-on CIA, like OP, you know, like gangster rap, for example. | ||
| Back in the hip-hop days, your dad talks about this a lot, Rex. | ||
| He says, you know, the CIA were like, oh, hip-hop, it's spreading this message of family and it's spreading this message of, you know, community and love and all this and stuff. | ||
| We got to get rid of that. | ||
| We need to, we need to poison this well. | ||
| So they went in and they created gangster rap. | ||
| Know there might have been some people with large noses involved in it too. | ||
| But they ended up saying it's all about what? | ||
| Money, cash, hose, fighting. | ||
| And that's about it. | ||
| That's all that matters: fight who's got a bigger dick, who's got a bigger car, who's got more whores, right? | ||
| And so, if you look at the right wing as this movement of like, let's move towards God, let's move towards families, let's move towards this. | ||
| They say, no, The right wing is now money, cash, hose. | ||
| So it's basically gangster rap for the right. | ||
| That's a phenomenal observation. | ||
| But it's, but it's, but it's a poison pill, in my opinion. | ||
| It is. | ||
| That's a phenomenal observation. | ||
| You know, it's like you say with Kenneth Copeland, it's that prosperity gospel, but it's just changed around a little bit. | ||
| It's a different version of that prosperity gospel that everyone's been preaching forever. | ||
| And it's a very effective thing to go, hey, you deserve all this stuff. | ||
| All you have to do is believe in yourself and you can be as immoral as possible. | ||
| And then it's a good thing and you can make it into some sort of an achievement, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then, and you need to have even Myron Gain says it, like, you have to have sex with 60 women. | ||
| I don't like what he's talking about now. | ||
| 60 women before you can even decide. | ||
| It's like, how are you really, you know, sure, you're not going to get bossed around by some chick if you bang 60 women, but I mean, are you ever actually going to really feel a loving relationship with a woman that, you know, after just banging and banging and banging and banging, banging whores? | ||
| And it's just like, like, how does a woman know? | ||
| Like, am I the 59th or am I the 60th? | ||
| Like, you know, just like, well, how many have you had? | ||
| Like, you're left to 60. | ||
| How about I see you next week after you get to 60? | ||
| So I know I have a chance. | ||
| Or am I just, I'm just on your way to getting your prowess to, you know, to build a family because you're this the top G. | ||
| And then it's also that divisive, like anti-family rhetoric that you're talking about because that present that prevents men and women from getting together and collaborating and having children, which is ultimately the point of living and being alive is to build a family or have a community, right? | ||
| And then you get feminists and they say all these things about being independent and whatnot. | ||
| And then they point at the people like Tate and others and they go, look, they're doing it. | ||
| Why can't we do it? | ||
| Like, if it's not immoral for them, why is it immoral for us to act this way? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then they have them on their show and they go, look at this. | ||
| And then they have my show, look at these whores with these OnlyFans. | ||
| Meanwhile, they're running the OnlyFan whores and they're telling guys to go out and bang 60 women. | ||
| Okay, so just do the math. | ||
| If you're running a society, like it works for a guy, maybe one guy bangs 60 girls and he becomes the emperor of the universe. | ||
| But if this becomes like this is what men do, then that means 60 women in your town or 60 women in your local area have all just gotten fucked and turned to the side. | ||
| That means the women you get now, if you run the math, has been fucked 60 times in general, just for one guy to get to get to his point where he's willing to settle down. | ||
| It's not a good culture on a mass scale. | ||
| It doesn't scale up. | ||
| Don't we love the accelerationism, Matt? | ||
| Don't we love the general degradation and fall of society so that we can just accept things like war and disease and poverty as normal, you know, because hey, you could be on top screwing everyone. | ||
| You could be the king daddy, you know, doing all the damage. | ||
| And isn't that fun? | ||
| And I think it's things like this they get us to focus on and do like, you know, these secular, like promiscuous relationships that are completely divorced from God and family. | ||
| Because if you're divorced from God and family and you don't care about those things, why would you care about anything else? | ||
| Why would you care about your society, your community, your nation, your state, your city? | ||
| Why would you care about anything at all? | ||
| And, you know, like, I know you're a very anti-war guy, right? | ||
| Yeah, I'm not, I'm not a fan. | ||
| Yeah, like we're not fans of wars. | ||
| And we talk about these people that have, you know, these political platforms and really all they do is talk about like male chauvinism or, you know, like banging all these horrors, like you say. | ||
| And so on like Tate, like Tate could be a hero if he preached against war and he criticized the governments and he criticized what's going on in Israel. | ||
| Criticize what's going on in Ukraine and I don't see him doing a whole lot. | ||
| It's because it doesn't make him money at the end of the day right, just to just to talk about the those things. | ||
| He's not part of the establishment or like that wartime establishment that's either making or not making money from that. | ||
| He's making money off of the cool stuff, the. | ||
| My heart, the hard part about this whole thing is, is like you go from like the 50s where, like nuclear family was the main thing and that's like where you saw America at its peak and everybody had like a sense of morality. | ||
| And now, like you look at like single mother, for like even just black people in general, the single mother it's like 60 something percent of of like black children are like born into single parent households, which is nuts. | ||
| And it's not even just that there's other races, that the it's just become a standard norm where the father is just not in the equation and that's what's pumping out the chaotic people that are doing this crazy on tv right exactly, and and and that was basically put together by you know uh, Welfare and gangster rap. | ||
| Put the sealed the nail in it, you know. | ||
| So it's a you know, basically right now, we have kind of a welfare society already and uh, with Ai and everything coming in exactly, we'll have those n-words voting left for how many generations? | ||
| And he got it, you know. | ||
| So um yeah, we're here, and basically I just see them doing, trying to do the same thing with the right wing when they see something that's that's, that's heading in a pure and a good direction, that it's the things that are solid like that, things that are built on on on rock, that that are scalable uh, you know societal, you know movements. | ||
| They have to shatter those. | ||
| They either shatter them by divide and conquer or they just poison the entire movement to say that's, the movement is actually going this way, it's not really going that way, which you could even tie into the the, the Trump Trumpism, because your dad, we should just call him Alex, you should call him Alex too. | ||
| Just, I do people get mad with me. | ||
| They go you show and i'm like look, i've watched the Alex Jones show since I was an itty bitty kid. | ||
| Look, he's my dad, but he's also Alex Jones yeah, commenter. | ||
| At this point I think I think you know, I I understand that you do, but but uh, I think, as a commentator, it sounds weird being like my dad. | ||
| You know, just right exactly, people don't get yeah, but but getting into what you were saying you're, you're about to talk about the Trumpism and look, here's the thing Trump was, and i'll let you get into it just really quick. | ||
| Like Trump was our he, there was the establishment left and there was the establishment right. | ||
| I mean, for as long as I can remember and I remember back to like the first Obama term, i'm sure you remember much, much longer it's been, you have two choices and ultimately it is that hippie argument of like it's two wings on the same bird man, but that's true and that's all you had forever. | ||
| So then you have Trump come in and he kind of taps into that populist font. | ||
| This is a point i've seen Fuentes make and he makes it very eloquently. | ||
| He was able to use that energy to like be a third choice and you ask anyone why they supported Trump or why they dislike Trump. | ||
| It was always the same answer, he's going to be a wrecking ball for the system and this is what people believe. | ||
| But now we just see him kind of being the establishment leader of that new Republican right. | ||
| It's because he got I think he got hurt he, he got upset somehow In his first term, he has a pathological need to be liked. | ||
| But Matt Baker, what's your opinion? | ||
| Are we still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
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| I don't even know. | ||
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| You know, he ran on that, remember? | ||
| I mean, he was actually calling, he was actually calling the Clintons out. | ||
| He's saying, you know, Hillary's got a problem. | ||
| Bill Clinton, he's been to the island, been to that island. | ||
| He knows about the island. | ||
| He knows Jeffrey Epstein. | ||
| He's been in a million pictures with him. | ||
| I mean, we know he's at least been on the plane and he now doesn't know anything about it. | ||
| It's never happened. | ||
| And, you know, it's even bigger. | ||
| I'll now segue this into a few other topics, but it's basically so. | ||
| Yeah, Trump. | ||
| And in fact, Alex, Alex Jones was before Nick in saying this, you know, this isn't Trump. | ||
| This is our wave. | ||
| This is the populist wave. | ||
| It started with Ron Paul, which, you know, Alex helped popularize the Alex Jones movement and the Tea Party and all this. | ||
| And so then that populism and that anti government and that like end the Fed and that like, you get rid of the swamp, all that ism, he rode the wave and he became the surfer that now was the movement, you see. | ||
| So he's now riding that wave. | ||
| And the problem is, is that he then, as Nick points out, that he's kind of like bringing you back in into the main water and getting you off the face of the wave and back into the ocean, back into the swamp with everybody else. | ||
| Because even though he is doing actually great things at the border, like the border was so bad before I live right here in San Francisco. | ||
| That's one of the reasons. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| And honestly, you go down there now. | ||
| And the last time I went down, I videotaped it and I actually dubbed in crickets because there was literally no one there. | ||
| And before it was like hundreds of people and crying babies and feces and tents and plastic bags flying in the wind. | ||
| And I mean, it was actually like heart-wrenching to see it. | ||
| And now you just go down there, it's nothing, just completely dead. | ||
| So, you know, kind of problem reaction solution too, in a way. | ||
| Like they let the Democrats do stuff. | ||
| So if you see it as the two-winged bird, you go, the Democrats let all these people in. | ||
| So now we need people with masks going around, you know, pulling people out of houses and stuff like that. | ||
| So it's kind of a free-to-world extremism. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And my whole issue with everything that comes out of the government is rather than take like the hammer for the little nail, they take like this giant sledgehammer and just that's the solution to the problem rather than just taking the precision. | ||
| Like, for example, I was one of the reasons why I was voting for Trump was because the border situation was out of control. | ||
| I was like, how are we just going to let a lot of people? | ||
| And there's Chinese people coming in here. | ||
| What are they running away from? | ||
| This is not amnesty. | ||
| So when he went in and he made those decisions, I was like, cool. | ||
| But then it went like too far at a certain point. | ||
| I was like, we kind of need people still, you know, slapping these, you know, tariffs and then slapping, taking people 100K for the H-1B visa. | ||
| I was like, okay, this is getting a little, this is getting a little iffy. | ||
| And then you also had, you know, they were taking essential workers. | ||
| Like we have a lot of Mexicans that are doing agriculture, right? | ||
| What do we need to deport these people for? | ||
| I mean, at the end of the day, I know they're illegal and some people will take the absolute case, but I don't know about you, but most Americans don't want to just go out there and picking apples on the ranch or oranges for what we got. | ||
| What's your opinion on that, Matt? | ||
| Basically, in the economy that we live in nowadays, yeah, sure, people won't do it. | ||
| I mean, you look at even the construction industry, which I mean, that's how I actually make my living, you know, framing, building houses and doing that kind of stuff. | ||
| Here in California, back when the housing booms were going, they used to build all the McMansions. | ||
| Now all they build is the affordable housing, which are basically modern day projects, which will be absolute shit shows in the future. | ||
| But now it's like, oh, it's modern living, you know? | ||
| But back in the day, they used to build these tracks and the guys were making 35 bucks an hour back in the 80s. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so you were rolling. | ||
| They all had boats. | ||
| They were all going on vacation. | ||
| They were buying big houses. | ||
| They were putting their kids through college. | ||
| And then the workers come in and they lower the price. | ||
| They lower the price. | ||
| We're like, you'd be lucky getting paid 50 bucks an hour now. | ||
| And so this is the 80s. | ||
| So back when I graduated high school, I started working just doing a paint painting gig. | ||
| I was doing like house painting. | ||
| And so back then, I was, it was, it was good pay for back then. | ||
| I was getting broed out, but I didn't have a car and I had no experience. | ||
| And I was getting paid $15 an hour. | ||
| And back then, I don't know if you have Jack in the Box out where you're at. | ||
| A jumbo jack was $1. | ||
| And this is back in like 94. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So I was making 15 jumbo jacks an hour with no car, no car, no work, no nothing. | ||
| And now I'll get paid like $50 an hour, but a jumbo jack is over $5. | ||
| So I'm making 10 jumbo jacks an hour right now. | ||
| And I've got a car, I'm trucks, I've got vehicles, I've got, you know, 20 years of experience, electrical plumbing, framing, the whole bit. | ||
| And back then, I was making 15 jumbo jacks an hour right out of school with nothing. | ||
| So that is mostly because of the amount of illegal alien labor that was brought in and that were used to create all these new houses, which ended up making it to where people just couldn't make a living. | ||
| People that are fresh off the boat, people that are willing to live in, you know, 20 people in a house, they're willing to go and say, well, we'll get this shit done for, you know, this amount, this amount, this amount. | ||
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They got lower than the price. | |
| Go ahead. | ||
| So it's kind of, in the end, you're just, you're, you've created an economy where there is no, there isn't enough money. | ||
| It's like Henry Ford, he tried to make it to where the cars were cheap enough to where and pay the people enough to where they could buy the car. | ||
| Whereas this is the other way around. | ||
| It's like they're making houses that are impossible for the people to buy and paying them so much, so little money that they, they have to live in little huddles together. | ||
| And so they only hire more illegal aliens. | ||
| And that's, that's an excellent point. | ||
| I mean, we live in this culture and the saddest thing with Trump really is, and I get it because he's the big billionaire businessman, right? | ||
| But this, this worship of these giant companies that really, they don't care about Americans. | ||
| And ultimately, Tim, the point you're making about, yeah, Americans aren't willing to do these jobs. | ||
| We need people here. | ||
| I get that argument, but why these companies can make a little less money? | ||
| Why can't these companies pay people more and give people better benefits? | ||
| We used to have a country where we did all these things and we kind of seeded it. | ||
| So these big businesses, once America was deindustrialized, so we could keep these big systems running like agriculture. | ||
| We live in a society now where the hyperinflation exists to such a point to where like a pound of meat is like $12. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, there's the, there's the chart that we covered in one of our lives. | ||
| You weren't, you weren't there for that, but we basically showed how like the wages and then the corporations, everything was like as the productivity got higher, the wages were going into the hands of the average person. | ||
| And then you had right around the time of rake. | ||
| Huh? | ||
| I think the whole thing was about 1974. | ||
| Like when we got to the end of the day, yeah, it was between 1974 and the 1980s where you saw the inflection and that money started going less towards the people because of Reaganomics, because they thought, oh, let's give them a bunch of tax breaks. | ||
| And then people got greedy. | ||
| And then instead of putting that money back into the average person, they were doing stock buybacks where you're all that extra money you're making, you can go buy your own stock and make it go higher. | ||
| Like it doesn't make any sense. | ||
| It's the infinite money hack. | ||
| And that's what our entire economy is based on. | ||
| You know, we hear all this rhetoric about Russia, they're on their knees and they have fuel. | ||
| They have lines for fuel and it's over for them. | ||
| They have like a 20% debt to GDP ratio. | ||
| We're at 127%. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're at 127%. | ||
| That's GDP ratio, and it's only going to get higher. | ||
| And we go, Oh, inflation, you know, during Biden, it was like eight, nine percent. | ||
| And then we look at Trump and it goes, it's like two, three percent. | ||
| That's still pretty good, quote unquote. | ||
| This isn't going to run forever. | ||
| And as it has run longer, it's not like the inflation number going down, it's not like that decreases. | ||
| Like, it's not like the price, it's not like the money's value goes up, it just has slowed down how much it's getting degraded. | ||
| We're reaching terminal mass here. | ||
| You know, I often talk about it. | ||
| We often talk about it here on the gray area. | ||
| We're going to have a great depression, folks. | ||
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Like, it's going to happen, it's inevitable at this rate. | |
| Yeah, I mean, you know, because I feel like that, you know, I know you guys are younger, and so there's this sense of, you know, there's like socialism versus capitalism and this and that. | ||
| And so, me, as being almost a boomer, not quite Generation X, I kind of push back on that a little bit, just like, I know, you know, these them kids. | ||
| But, um, but one thing I will push back on capitalism is I think that capitalism is actually, and I know you're going to hate this, uh, and not you guys, but the people out there listening, you're going to clip it and be like, ah, he's a communist. | ||
| It's like a disease, this capitalism. | ||
| It's like the worship of only money when it should be the worship. | ||
| Not you could say what it could be, you know, socialism or this and that, but that's not for me. | ||
| I'm talking about free marketism. | ||
| The goal of capitalism was to have free markets, but now these companies and these corporations have literally gotten to the size of way larger than governments ever even were. | ||
| But it's okay because they're capitalists and they're corporations. | ||
| And hey, you don't want to be a communist, do you? | ||
| So it's okay. | ||
| You can limit the government, but then the corporations are now have unlimited power, unlimited palancy power. | ||
| They have total unlimited power. | ||
| And then the government just pawns everything off. | ||
| If they just go, well, you guys run all the information systems. | ||
| It's like, hey, it's a private company. | ||
| They're censoring you. | ||
| It's not us. | ||
| Oh, it's hey, they're just stopping you from getting on the plane for without a vaccine. | ||
| It's not us. | ||
| And then, as a result, there is no, there is no economy, especially after COVID, when all that money went up to the top and everybody started buying stuff online. | ||
| There's no money in local businesses, in local environments, in local anything. | ||
| It's all funneled to the top. | ||
| It's all funneled to Black Rock. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Like, if you can't stop BlackRock from buying up all of our houses, that should just be completely illegal. | ||
| You can't 100 houses or 1,000 houses, maybe a corporation because you own like a couple of sectors, but owning a percentage of the entire houses in a country, that's totally ridiculous. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What happened to antitrust? | ||
| I mean, Theodore Teddy Roosevelt, like one of our greatest presidents, he came in and he smashed these big companies when they were doing all this company talent, company currency stuff to people. | ||
| We don't hear that language anymore. | ||
| People really don't know who he is or what he stood for. | ||
| Oh, national parks, national parks. | ||
| The reason why he was so loved and so successful is he came in and he said, Hey, you can't mistreat people like this. | ||
| It's not good for the country. | ||
| It's not sustainable for the country ultimately. | ||
| Your thoughts? | ||
| It's it comes down to conflict of interest. | ||
| You've got the lobbying groups, you've got the NGOs, you've got these private corporations that have a ton of money in which they can just pay off the politician to look the other way. | ||
| You look at the Pelosi's making inside trades, you look at Bernie, who is supposed to be like that socialist, like for the people. | ||
| And then you find out he's getting money from like the healthcare system from pharmaceuticals. | ||
| And it's like you're incentivizing people to basically go and take the vaccine and all these drugs that are not so good for them, as well as like the food itself, like all the money that they put, all the stuff and the shit that they put in the chemicals that they put in the food. | ||
| Somebody's making money. | ||
| And so even if RFK comes into the system and just decides, like, oh, I want to change this, there's nothing he can do because there's enough people making money and sucking from the cow that like you're going to hurt somebody's money and they're going to get really pissed off at you. | ||
| So get in line. | ||
| So this isn't going to work for us. | ||
| That's how it comes down to. | ||
| It's bad, man. | ||
| And again, the capitalism, it's like an aversion people have. | ||
| Like, if you say, well, we need to get the money out of politics, it's like, whoa, whoa, what are you, communists? | ||
| It's like, right, it has to go because it's there's no way we can move forward and actually and actually save humanity. | ||
| If, like, let's say, AI, we're building AI. | ||
| The people who are building AI, Elon Musk himself, you know, it's like you've got Ted Cruz, like, well, why are we looking at possible Terminator thing? | ||
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He's like, Yeah, probably like 20% chance of a total Terminator situation that could kill everybody on the planet. | |
| I'm like, Well, how long are we talking? | ||
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Like, pops the next five years. | |
| So, these people are like literally saying the thing they're building is going to kill all people on planet Earth in the next five years. | ||
| And then we're giving them the money and letting them come into the White House and say, We're just turning over everything to you. | ||
| And Palantir and all these, they're all the same. | ||
| Yeah, that's scary. | ||
| The Palantir talk about that one, really quick. | ||
| And then they go and they say, Oh, yeah, the data centers, they'll need twice the power that the entire human race uses, but that's okay. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| We need to have the AI, but then, oh, climate change, oh, this is the biggest thing. | ||
| You can't drive the car, but we need you know, AI porn. | ||
| Like, this has to continue. | ||
| I heard Owen going off about that the other day. | ||
| Did you hear him talking about that? | ||
| The thing about the data centers, you know, they paint it as like, oh, this is good for you. | ||
| This is good for AI. | ||
| But then, all the money that it costs to build that rather than these private corporations paying for the infrastructure that it takes to expand these systems, they're putting in funding. | ||
| Yeah, it could be government funding, but no, it comes from the disbursement of all the people that live in that area carry the cost of that data center. | ||
| So, you see these silent, quiet costs that go into the bill. | ||
| You know, you get your electricity bill, they have all these line items. | ||
| I implore everybody to go look at their electricity bill because often people don't. | ||
| They'll have electricity charges that it costs that will go under like a category of like, oh, additional charges for X, Y, and Z. | ||
| And that's coming from these big corporations are in bed with the local government system basically saying, Hey, cut us a deal, we'll build this data center, you'll make a little money, and then just spread all the expenses across the X million of people that live in this region. | ||
| And then the average person is paying for that, even though they didn't ask for it. | ||
| Yeah, and if I mean, we're all on the grid. | ||
| I mean, the grid basically, you know, if one place is pulling the electricity, the other people have to fill the grid, and it basically makes each kilowatt hour go up in price. | ||
| So, as the supply and demand changes, and then they come in like, oh, we got to do rolling blackouts, guys. | ||
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Hey, you got to turn off your lights, guys. | |
| Hey, you got to do this. | ||
| Meanwhile, they're just going with the freaking AI centers just painting them out. | ||
| We're going to build 78 trillion AI centers. | ||
| You know, they're going to spend a half a trillion dollars. | ||
| You want to talk about what Trump's doing that's not good. | ||
| Like, the first day he gets in, he decides he's going to have a half a trillion dollars, not just for AI, but AI that can help create your own very own mRNA vaccine for you. | ||
| It's so huge that you don't even know you have. | ||
| You have to get it. | ||
| Tell him about this because he doesn't know. | ||
| I don't know about it. | ||
| Educate me. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, it's called Stargate. | ||
| I think it's Project Stargate, I believe it is. | ||
| So, the first day he gets in, I believe it was the first day he released the J6 prisoners, which was great. | ||
| I was out there in the freezing cold with Ashley Babbitt's mom, Mickey, Mickey With Hoff, and that was a beautiful day. | ||
| And then it was like, wake up in the morning, it was like maybe the second day after Zoke wakes up in the morning. | ||
| He's got uh, he's got Palantir in there, he's got uh, all those guys in the in the uh White House. | ||
| And he's like, we give it half a trillion. | ||
| It's going to be the biggest project of our time. | ||
| And it's going to be for AI that will be able to analyze your blood and give you an individual anti-cancer vaccine for the cancer that you don't even know you have yet. | ||
| They'll analyze it. | ||
| They'll find out that you have cancer and it's your specific cancer. | ||
| It's only you and your body. | ||
| So they'll tailor an individual mRNA vaccine. | ||
| vaccine, which we know is not a vaccine to your specific cancer that you don't even know you have yet ahead of time to get ahead of you actually developing. | ||
| Isn't that dangerous? | ||
| Well, let's put it this way. | ||
| It would be absolutely impossible to have a control group because you're the only person who's received this vaccine. | ||
| So they go, oh, they're all the same, but it's if you look at the genetic code, yours is AGCCC AGGGG, and they give you that one. | ||
| No one else is going to get that one. | ||
| And no one else is going to have your same genetic code. | ||
| So there's no way they could ever do a placebo or any kind of random trial. | ||
| It's just, here you go. | ||
| Trust us. | ||
| AI said it was good. | ||
| Don't worry, bro. | ||
| Trust me, bro. | ||
| And then we hear about how awesome RFK is and like, oh, they might take the food diet out of like the church's chicken or something. | ||
| You know, like we hear this and we're given like these little wins. | ||
| Like we're told, like, these people are incredible and we have to worship them. | ||
| And there's, there's such a cult of personality, not just really around Trump anymore. | ||
| But I mean, if you go on Twitter, you look at like Gunther Eagleman, you look at like DC Drainer, you look at Benny Johnson for an example. | ||
| And they just, they just glaze these people day in and day out. | ||
| And they farm that like boomer engagement because these people kind of like the football teams we were talking about earlier. | ||
| It's like, yeah, this is my team. | ||
| I'm a Republican. | ||
| Yeah, this is my team. | ||
| I'm a Democrat. | ||
| You're an American. | ||
| Like, like, why, why do you have to worship these people? | ||
| Right. | ||
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| It's like, it's like Nick says they got everybody back on the plantation. | ||
| You know, they got people back into the red versus blue thing when it was supposed to be we were going out of the system and circumnavigating it. | ||
| And now it's like, yeah, you know, Republicans, Democrats. | ||
| And it's like, it's pretty gay. | ||
| They're both evil. | ||
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| They're both totally evil. | ||
| And like I said, if you really do look at the, if you say, if people believe that APAC or the Jews or whoever or Illuminati, whoever you think is running it, if they're paying for both systems, then no matter how you slice it, they are, they are two, uh, two birds of the two wings of the same bird. | ||
| So it makes perfect sense. | ||
| If you say, we want to do this thing, but nobody's going to, nobody's going to accept us having the Patriot Act. | ||
| So you can either bomb the country or now they've got it to where instead of having a false flag like this, it's, it's the problem reaction solution of the Democrats just open up the border and let a trillion people come in. | ||
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Like, the only way we can find all these people, we need AI. | |
| The AI is going to find everybody. | ||
| We're going to have Palantir help us. | ||
| It's going to be great. | ||
| And then all the people on the right. | ||
| Talk about the AI and Palantir and what they're doing with the data and how they're doing this mass like surveillance that they're trying to create with the system. | ||
| Like give some insight into that. | ||
| Well, we've all known it was coming. | ||
| I mean, your dad, Alex Jones, is like the head of the entire like the technotronic world is coming and there's going to be a cashless society and there's going to be track and trace. | ||
| And this is even before AI was really a thing to where there was so much data in these data centers before, even back in Snowden days. | ||
| It's like they were collecting all the data, but they didn't know what to do with it. | ||
| They had to like paint, you had to ping them to where they could actually go, okay, let's listen to everything this guy said in the last few months. | ||
| Whereas now the AI is just listening. | ||
| Did he say this? | ||
| Did he say that? | ||
| And then you've got, you've got the Lavender system in Israel, which they're using, which is controlled by Palantir. | ||
| They actually have drones that go out and kill the people in Palestine that nobody even approves it. | ||
| Nobody approves. | ||
| It goes in and it says, you talked to Rex Jones. | ||
| That's one point. | ||
| You went to this place, this market and met so-and-so. | ||
| That's another point. | ||
| We heard you say this online. | ||
| That's another point. | ||
| If you get 10 points, you're dead. | ||
| And they just send a drone over and they kill. | ||
| And they're like, we have about a 10%, you know, problem ratio. | ||
| Like one in 10 people, we didn't probably shouldn't have killed. | ||
| But even the list, they just literally send a drone out like freaking Terminator and kill you, but based on an AI. | ||
| And it's already happening. | ||
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And the same people that are building that AI are putting the AI into America. | |
| And we're all talking into these boxes, just building our, you know, our social credit score. | ||
| You know, when they, I think they're not going to flip the switch one of these days, they will. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And I mean, like, but Matt, you have to understand the Palestinians, they're not human beings. | ||
| It doesn't matter what happens to them. | ||
| It's all for the greater good. | ||
| We have to have the lavender and the mosaic. | ||
| We have to test it on them. | ||
| And then that same group of people, those boomers who support and cheer for that sort of thing, it'll happen over here in 10 years and they won't care because they'll be in the system. | ||
| And they supported it from the very beginning. | ||
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| Just so glad I was, I was born 10 years later and I didn't get to be a boomer. | ||
| Gen X. | ||
| No, you're based. | ||
| Gen X is like my favorite generation. | ||
| My dad is Gen X. | ||
| A lot of the favorite people that I know are Gen X. | ||
| And I know some good boomers too. | ||
| It's not just to rage on the boomer or anything, but it is really that. | ||
| Like they were the first generation. | ||
| Sam, Sam Hyde talks about this. | ||
| The boomer was the first generation to see everything in color on TV. | ||
| So they think anything on TV is real. | ||
| Whereas, you know, you're kind of raised with these systems a little bit longer. | ||
| You understand, hey, it's media. | ||
| We're interfacing with it. | ||
| In a weird way, you know, being like an iPad kid in the iPad generation, kind of like me and Tim are, you kind of, you understand, like, hey, in a weird way, because you're looking at it all the time, this isn't necessarily real life. | ||
| I know it really doesn't make sense because you go, oh, the boomers and older people, like they grew up with less technology. | ||
| Yeah, but the technology was kind of more space age and sci-fi, and they kind of have a higher veneration of it, I would say. | ||
| Well, I think it's even more than more than necessarily the technological level of it. | ||
| I think it's based on, you know, I think the boomers are really based on, you know, the greatest generation were the people who won, you know, World War One and World, you know, the World War I, World War II, those older people and they basically came back and they're like, we're the good guys. | ||
| We saved the world. | ||
| And it was like technology was booming and everything was going great. | ||
| And it just seemed like there was just no, everything, America is just the best and we're free and we're amazing. | ||
| They just, they just took their eyes off the ball. | ||
| You know, they just, they're just like, that can't happen in America. | ||
| I mean, like, that's not going to happen here. | ||
| Why our American government would never do that? | ||
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| Because they bought, you know, they bought the history books and they bought the, you know, the bill of goods, the everything, you know, all the stuff about, you know, Israel and the Jews and the Nazis and the Hitler and we're the good guys and they're the bad guys. | ||
| And no mention of all the people that got killed in Russia and everything. | ||
| But, you know, it's the history is written by the by the victors. | ||
| And I just feel like they really in their hearts felt that they were the winners, they were the best. | ||
| And then they got to watch their whole life just in the flowering of America. | ||
| The cars, the planes, the spaceships. | ||
| It's just like, oh my God, we're just unstoppable. | ||
| And so they just, they just bought the whole thing, regardless of TV, but hook line and sinker. | ||
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| But, you know, that's what I was saying. | ||
| Back in the day when TV, there was only one channel, you know, and it was the news. | ||
| Like you believed it for sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, the thing about today is I love the access to information as dangerous as it is. | ||
| You get the independent media like us where we get to just talk about the facts of specific things. | ||
| And it's crazy because like you go back, you know, five years ago, saying certain things just seemed like super conspiracy theorist like. | ||
| And there's certain things that like it's gotta, the official news person has to tell me that it's true. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Like the news was the credible source where it was like, if the news doesn't say it and someone else on his Joe Schmo podcast says it, then it doesn't exist. | ||
| You guys are Looney Tunes. | ||
| You can't, and your dad got a lot of crap for a lot of those different things. | ||
| But now, you know, as we're having these conversations and people are watching, some of this stuff doesn't seem so crazy after all. | ||
| And I'm an engineer. | ||
| I'm very logical based, but then it's like something's not adding up. | ||
| So then you have to go look at other sources for your, you know, facts and your factoids about certain things. | ||
| And I like where things are headed, but then I'm also scared misinformation is also a very real thing because some people are doing this whole echo chamber. | ||
| So where do you think this goes? | ||
| Well, you know, it is good, but it's also having an infinite amount of information is almost as bad as having like one channel because they've, they've now made it to where it's almost impossible to know what real is, you know, with the Charlie Kirk thing and everything. | ||
| You know, you know, started with 9-11, people started questioning, but now Charlie Kirk, like everyone's got their own theories. | ||
| Nobody believes this. | ||
| Nobody believes that. | ||
| You know, everybody's like living in their own bubble of reality where they think what's happening is happening. | ||
| And, you know, supposedly Elon has changed the algorithm now. | ||
| And Owen thinks it's great. | ||
| I don't know if you were watching his show the other day. | ||
| Did you see, did you catch his show where he's like, I catch other streams I wasn't watching yesterday. | ||
| I got an anecdote about that after you're done, but go ahead. | ||
| Yeah, so he's talking about it. | ||
| I wanted to clip it because it was, I don't know, I wasn't feeling it at all. | ||
| He's like, I love the new algorithm. | ||
| I think it's great. | ||
| You know, you just have to realize that it's basic, it's basing itself on what you pay attention to. | ||
| So if you see something you don't like, don't look at it. | ||
| He's like, in fact, grimace at it. | ||
| Like, first off, I have my camera covered on my phone. | ||
| So maybe that's why I'm shadow banned because it's like, if you won't show your face to me, I won't, you know, I'm not going to, I'm not going to do it. | ||
| So he's like, he's, he's, he's literally saying, when you're scrolling, if you see something you like, go smile if you like it and go if you don't like it. | ||
| So I'm just like imagining Owen Troy are rolling and going, trying to control his X algorithm. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so now the algorithm itself and Grok is actually going to decide what you see, regardless of your view, regardless of your follower account. | ||
| And I can tell you, having 166,000 followers makes no difference because I've had Instagram accounts with a thousand followers before that have more engagement sometimes than I do on my page. | ||
| So basically we've now given up the entire. | ||
| So you build something that has 166,000 followers and now somehow it's cool that it doesn't care about how much you've built or how much effort you've put into building this channel. | ||
| And so now Grok is going to decide. | ||
| And so basically, in the end, I feel like there's going to be so many different theories and it's just going to lean on whatever theory it wants or it's going to give you more engagement if you if you say the theory and it could be the wrong theory. | ||
| It's like, say, say this. | ||
| Let's start tearing apart Charlie Kirk's wife. | ||
| Yeah, that do more of that, more of that. | ||
| And so it can now control and destroy movements by funneling, you know, likes and dopamine to the people if they say the things that it wants them to say. | ||
| And so it kind of circles back to what you were saying, what I was, we were saying about money in the right wing and how there is no money in the right wing. | ||
| There's no, there's no money for anybody who wants to give the positive Americana message, zero. | ||
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Right. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Every other message has money behind it. | ||
| And now the new money, the new ad, and I totally understand Alex's, you know, business model because, you know, he, you know, he had big sponsors and they'd be like, well, we're not going to keep funding you if you're going to start talking about this. | ||
| And he couldn't deal with it. | ||
| You know, so at a certain point, he's like, well, I'm just going to put out my own products. | ||
| The new sponsor is actually the algorithm. | ||
| And so you'll notice certain people, I'm not going to name them because some of them are my friends, but they have become total clickbait algorithm junkies. | ||
| And so this out there, they're now, they haven't sold out to Israel. | ||
| They haven't sold out to the left. | ||
| They haven't sold out to, you know, to George Soros. | ||
| But they're like, yeah, yeah, come on. | ||
| I'm going to talk about this. | ||
| I'm going to talk about that. | ||
| And they're just like constantly on whatever the dopamine, the highest trending thing is, so they can trend more. | ||
| And so it's altered their personality in a way even more insipid and even more dangerous. | ||
| And because now you yourself feel like you're actually doing it yourself. | ||
| I'm telling the story I want to tell, but you know, when you look at these certain people, they wouldn't be saying this thing if they didn't know it wasn't crescendoing and harmonizing with this. | ||
| They've gotten a harmonic resonance with the algorithm. | ||
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And they're just like, oh, keep worshiping me. | |
| Watch click, click, yes, yes, yes, go, go, go. | ||
| And it's like they've lost themselves to the algorithm. | ||
| And it's really, it's really crazy. | ||
| And I think that's going to happen to a lot of people in the future. | ||
| I think we see a lot of that. | ||
| You know, you bring up Owen. | ||
| I really like Owen and I get a lot of crap for liking. | ||
| I love Owen too. | ||
| I'm listening to the show. | ||
| It's like, I mean, I grew up with Owen. | ||
| I remember the first day that Owen came into the office. | ||
| Owen came up during the first Trump campaign. | ||
| He was the guy on Man on the Street. | ||
| And I've got a lot of love in my heart for Owen. | ||
| I was just actually up at UT. | ||
| Alex Stein invited me and Owen Schroyer to be guest speakers at a little TP USA event. | ||
| And that was really cool. | ||
| It was my first time ever actually going to UT. | ||
| And I thought it was cool. | ||
| I got to stand at the bottom of the lecture hall and talk to people down there. | ||
| And we took a lot of great questions. | ||
| And there are a lot of great people there, but they were touching on these issues, you know, and they were talking about, you know, Israel, Gaza. | ||
| They were talking about like, where does the American right have a blind spot? | ||
| Like, what issues are we not addressing? | ||
| What about gerrymandering? | ||
| What about these tariffs hurting the economy, XYZ? | ||
| And when we got there, we got there a couple hours earlier, at least I did. | ||
| Owen came in right around the time the event started. | ||
| And I was sitting with Alex Stein. | ||
| I was also with kind of like the turning point USA kids, you know, like the young Republican guys in suits, right? | ||
| And you can tell that those dudes have like a political future, a political agenda in mind. | ||
| And just kind of joking around with Alex Stein, having fun, I noticed like a couple like, oh, oh, oh, oh, you can't say that about Israel. | ||
| And then someone asked Alex how to get his $7,000 and like how what he should post to like get that money from the pro-Israel folks on X. | ||
| And Alex Stein, super funny, hilarious guy. | ||
| I want to be on his show Tuesday, actually. | ||
| He started singing a little song about like how much he loves Israel and Netanyahu to like, you know, as a joke, to like to show him how he could get the $7,000. | ||
| And the young Republicans are like the TP USA kids are like, here, here, yes, yes, he's the greatest ever. | ||
| Like unironically, like they're, they're signaling to no one. | ||
| Like, it's just a group of students. | ||
| It's just a group of kids. | ||
| Unironically. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Unironic. | ||
| I swear, because like Alex Stein is being heavily ironic. | ||
| He's like, I love Netanyahu. | ||
| He is the best. | ||
| And like, here, here. | ||
| Did you see the one where he brought the wall into the studio and he had them like, like, yeah, that was funny. | ||
| I think I'm going to sing to the wall. | ||
| I'm very excited for that interaction, but you just, you witness that atmosphere. | ||
| And, you know, I took questions and I talked about the law affair. | ||
| I talked about like the Democrat Party funded lawsuits, the DOJ-funded lawsuits ultimately. | ||
| And my argument for my dad, it wasn't even addressing the whole situation or why he got sued. | ||
| I was just saying, hey, these were fraudulent cases. | ||
| We were ruled default. | ||
| We weren't allowed to defend ourselves XYZ. | ||
| And then after the event, it all goes great. | ||
| And then I like, I hear from Alex that he's getting flack from the people that I was there. | ||
| And like, I don't want to talk too much about this. | ||
| I don't want to get him in trouble. | ||
| I love Alex Stein. | ||
| And like, he's seriously like, we have great chemistry. | ||
| He's like my number one guy that I've met in like the new media space. | ||
| He's been super, super friendly. | ||
| I think he's funny. | ||
| People, people dunk on him sometimes, but I think he's hilarious. | ||
| And he talks to me. | ||
| He's like, Yeah, man. | ||
| Like, they were like, they were like, he had Rex Jones, Alex Jones's son, and he defended Sandy Hook. | ||
| I never said the word Sandy Hook. | ||
| I never said it once deliberately because I don't want to get him in trouble. | ||
| It's not a part of my argument when I do Alex Jones apologetics. | ||
| Ultimately, I talk about the case, the issues, and how ultimately it was illegal, what was done to us. | ||
| But just that association and just that not being a part of like, you know, the suit-wearing, like, young Republican Turning Point USA, Ben Shapiro type conservatism when all you're conserving is like the ability to do war and to, you know, like treat people as subhuman. | ||
| If you have any kind of dialogue like that at all, you're, you're immediately the bad creature. | ||
| And they're like, he was smoking. | ||
| And I was like, yes, I was. | ||
| I actually did smoke in the classroom. | ||
| But at the end of the day, I just, it reached a point to me where it was just a confirmation of everything that I already thought. | ||
| I realized it was all true. | ||
| It is ultimately, even at the lowest levels of quote unquote politics or like, you know, party politics, it's all the same thing. | ||
| It's like that crab in the bucket thing where they're all just like, we all have to stay here on these issues. | ||
| And you're not allowed to even be remotely against us or remotely against the power structure. | ||
| I was just being against the power structure. | ||
| I was just defending my dad ultimately, but even that was too much. | ||
| Even that was too much. | ||
| And they talked to the dean of students about me. | ||
| They got the dean of students at UT mad about me, let alone me. | ||
| I've never been to UT. | ||
| I didn't go to college. | ||
| I thought that was right. | ||
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I'm proud of you, kid. | |
| You're getting somewhere. | ||
| Yeah, it was, it was fun. | ||
| You can't get UT to kick you out or talk shit about you. | ||
| You're just not trying hard enough. | ||
| But dude. | ||
| I feel the same way. | ||
| You know, like if I could just bring it on the TP USA situation. | ||
| So, you know, I'm very skeptical of the narrative that's out there with the Charlie Kirk situation. | ||
| And I've been covering a lot of it. | ||
| I stay short of anything talking about Erica Kirk, A, because, you know, she's one way or another widowed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And B, because I was at the funeral. | ||
| Like, I was there during that thing. | ||
| And I don't know if you saw the video. | ||
| I did, but I posted it. | ||
| And I mean, I'm not the world's biggest Bible thump or anything like that. | ||
| But I mean, the spirituality that was there and when they were singing that song, Hallelujah, and everything, I mean, and she was like, forgiving the guy. | ||
| I mean, I was crying. | ||
| I bought it hook line and sinker. | ||
| I was just like, oh my God, this is so powerful. | ||
| Everybody was being so loving. | ||
| And so I just can't bring myself to do that. | ||
| And there's plenty of people out there. | ||
| You can do it. | ||
| I'm not avoiding the topic. | ||
| It's just not for me. | ||
| No, I totally agree. | ||
| I totally agree with you on that. | ||
| And like, God forbid, I quote unquote, try to dunk on Erica Kirk. | ||
| I would never. | ||
| She's a widow and she lost her husband in like the most horrific situation like ever imaginable. | ||
| Here's my argument. | ||
| At the end of the day, Charlie Kirk wasn't killed because he was Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Charlie Kirk was killed because Turning Point USA has a thousand campus offices and that's a running campaign. | ||
| Or if they want to astroturf or build someone like that Brian Hollyhand guy, they literally can plug anything into that beautiful system that he built and they can astroturf it immediately. | ||
| So you look at Charlie Kirk and they go, yeah, it was the crazed leftist that killed him. | ||
| And we sweep the crime scene clean in under three days. | ||
| That's a situation. | ||
| He got shot with 30 odd six and it didn't go through his spine because he's a man of steel. | ||
| Here's what I believe. | ||
| I'm not like Candace Owens where I'm like the teenage mutant ninja turtles popped up from the sewer with the wrong gun and killed him. | ||
| That's actually a pretty plausible theory. | ||
| Oh, I'm not on that boat. | ||
| I'm not on the lapel mic exploding and like the people sitting next to him are like moving around or something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they're like making secret codes to like shoot him or whatever. | ||
| I don't believe that. | ||
| Here's what I don't believe. | ||
| He took a lever action or a bolt action 30 ought six, which has to be screwed open with the screwdriver to both deconstruct and reconstruct it. | ||
| He apparently takes it up there, deconstructed, and then puts it all together. | ||
| And this was like high pressure, high stress situation. | ||
| The gun wouldn't be zeroed at that point. | ||
| And then he takes the shot. | ||
| Now, people go, That's not that hard of a shot. | ||
| Yeah, that situation is. | ||
| It absolutely is. | ||
| So, look, I here's what I believe. | ||
| Why didn't he show it the back of his neck? | ||
| You know, like, yeah, why wouldn't it just blow his entire head off if it shot him in the neck? | ||
| Well, I mean, it's a huge, it's a huge caliber. | ||
| And at the end of the day, like, someone else in a very similar vantage point could have just taken that shot. | ||
| And that guy's just the Patsy they have up on the roof with an actual gun. | ||
| I don't disagree there. | ||
| At the end of the day, we've gone through the text messages and all that. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| It's like Chat GPT meets CIA grandma. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, look, we don't detailing every single thing of how they're sweeping the area now. | ||
| Like, I hope I don't get caught. | ||
| This is exactly how I did it. | ||
| And this darling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I actually made that post. | ||
| I think even John bounded a bit on that. | ||
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He was in a lot of space with me when I first exposed that whole thing. | |
| But isn't it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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Well, yeah. | |
| I mean, to be honest, I actually wouldn't say I know for a fact because everyone's like, I know for a fact. | ||
| And we've blown the head off. | ||
| And all these people are clickbaiting. | ||
| I still think it's plausible. | ||
| I think it's, I think it's interesting that there is that trapdoor right there. | ||
| I think the fact that there was the platform that he was on above the ground, the fact that they took the ground, the dirt away and covered it over and completely got rid of that particular part of the crime scene. | ||
| I find very strange. | ||
| I also find if you see the guy that Alex had on, he was showing this cavitation in the neck. | ||
| Did you see that video? | ||
| The cavitation, the cavitation. | ||
| Have you seen the guy? | ||
| You know what I'm talking about? | ||
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He shows how the neck explodes like this. | |
| So he says the reason why, because people are saying it's the lapel mic causing this poofing situation, but he's like, no, that's like he shows these slow motion pictures of like hitting gel and they and they basically blow up like a puffer fish. | ||
| So he's like, that's his neck blowing up like a puffer fish from the uh from this cavitation. | ||
| But if you watch, it kind of goes like this: it doesn't go like this, it doesn't go like this, it goes up. | ||
| And if you watch the clip, he actually goes up and back. | ||
| His hands go up and back, his the thing off his neck goes up and back. | ||
| So I don't think it's implausible at all if you if you think he got shot from it. | ||
| Plus, if you shoot him in the meat and it comes up and hits his hits his skull and goes out his neck, then that's something you could see wouldn't have an exit. | ||
| But but uh, but uh when it comes to um Cannis Owens, I'm afraid that either she is a limited hangout or she's been fed information. | ||
| Because if you think because now she says she knows for a fact he was shot in the front, she knows for a fact it hit his fine. | ||
| It's like, how do you know that for a fact? | ||
| Were you in where you did you do the autopsy? | ||
| Did you put your finger in the hole? | ||
| And even at that area, like, were you in the car with the guys who cleaned the crime scene that didn't get their hands dirty or try to save Charlie Kirk? | ||
| Were you in that car? | ||
| Were you there? | ||
| She knows now for all of a sudden she knows for a fact. | ||
| And she put, she brought out, she brought out the text messages that she's like, oh, I'm going to bring this stuff out about Israel, which Harrison Smith pointed out. | ||
| That's why I was, I was back in Harrison Smith day one. | ||
| I was like, hey, I believe Harrison. | ||
| If Harrison said it, I believe it 100%. | ||
| There's no way he's going to lie. | ||
| I was on the phone with him for an hour going, Harrison, is this really your guy? | ||
| You love Harrison. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Harrison, best guy in the world. | ||
| And except for you. | ||
| But just yeah, Harrison's awesome. | ||
| But so I believe that. | ||
| So I was already skeptical of the Israel thing. | ||
| She brought that stuff out. | ||
| And so everyone's like, oh my God, she's a whackdrop. | ||
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And I was like, I don't know. | |
| I've been hearing the same thing. | ||
| I think this is plausible. | ||
| But she didn't actually have those texts herself. | ||
| They were fed to her by someone inside TPO, TPUSA. | ||
| And then she got to go out and have everybody call her crazy and then bring out the texts. | ||
| And then everyone said they're fake. | ||
| And then the people inside TPUSA said, well, actually, she's telling the truth. | ||
| Does feel like everything to be the perfect person that she's the one to believe, and then now at the very end that she does a dambon genie, there is no he killed himself, he killed himself. | ||
| Oh, yes, yes, that's perfect. | ||
| I've seen the file, I've seen the file. | ||
| He killed himself, he killed himself, yeah, exactly. | ||
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Same internet again, like, how could you see the whole file? | |
| Like, you saw, even if I go into the FBI and I'm like, I'm in charge now, I want to see the file. | ||
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Here you go, sir, there's a file. | |
| All right, I'll see it like this. | ||
| All right, seen the whole file. | ||
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Like, you know, for a fact, there's no other information. | |
| You've seen the whole file. | ||
| Oh, oh, but wait, it's even better. | ||
| Epstein never trafficked anyone at all. | ||
| You see, no, yeah, oh, and we didn't scrub the one minute of the footage, that's just a mistake. | ||
| And then they retract that, they go backwards. | ||
| But how I see this whole situation happening is, you know, they love to just watch everyone run around with their heads cut off and give all of these theories. | ||
| At the end of the day, we're never going to find out the truth. | ||
| Because if you think about it on a macro level, what happened to Crooks? | ||
| Have you seen any documentaries? | ||
| Have you seen any news come out about how Trump was almost killed and assassinated? | ||
| Has there really been any concrete evidence when it's talking about the president of the United States, which you would think would be like the biggest investigation known to man and he still survives? | ||
| Like we're not hearing anything about that. | ||
| Not only just that, the second attempt on his life. | ||
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So I mean, those snipers had a perfect review of that roof. | |
| And even if, even with the, even with the Charlie Kirk thing, that roof was visible from walkways all around the place. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And you saw people in both scenarios saying, hey, there's a guy up there, especially in the crooks. | ||
| They had plenty of time to react. | ||
| They had all the police. | ||
| They had, you know, people telling them. | ||
| And it's as simple as a radio call because all these people are on the same channels. | ||
| They can communicate. | ||
| You tell one guy, sniper on the roof. | ||
| You get Secret Service involved. | ||
| They tackle. | ||
| They shoot the guy. | ||
| And this is over. | ||
| But you give them minutes to react from the situation. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I don't know. | ||
| And why? | ||
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Why? | |
| Why did the team that was there? | ||
| The team that was Charlie Kirk's elite, I believe some of them are Israeli or were involved with that with that organization. | ||
| They're not only cleaning up the scene, they're not only either not getting blood because there is no blood or even putting caring enough to put their hands in. | ||
| I mean, you would have grab one of those fresh, brand new clean hats that are on the table right there and stuff it in that wound. | ||
| If you're any kind of medic, any kind of knowledge, you would have just been like, oh my God, put it in, pull your t-shirt off, tourniquet, do something. | ||
| But not one person had a single drop of blood on their hands. | ||
| So either they didn't care. | ||
| And then, how is it that not one person pulled out their firearm? | ||
| If you're in a shooting situation, you go. | ||
| I didn't even think about that. | ||
| It's phenomenal. | ||
| Not one person. | ||
| There was no question that there was going to be another. | ||
| I mean, nowadays, everyone assumes there's going to be a volley of bullets. | ||
| You don't just think, oh, one bullet. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| One person just died in front of you. | ||
| You're like, well, that's over. | ||
| You don't expect sniper up top. | ||
| You think guy in front of the crowd, that's the first place you're going to draw your gun and you're going to aim that direction. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You're going to, you're going to be, you're going to be ready to do something. | ||
| You're not just going to be like, oh, well, what do you know? | ||
| Let's just do this and let's just cover up the scene. | ||
| Let's take down the cameras. | ||
| Let's pave over the crime scene. | ||
| Let's, let's not do a proper autopsy. | ||
| Let's not release the footage. | ||
| Let's, you know, and then people like, they found, they've got the guy. | ||
| They've got the gun. | ||
| It's like, that's what a Patsy is, guys. | ||
| It's like, that's what Patsy's are for. | ||
| They always have the plausible argument of the guy and they always show you the gun. | ||
| Here's the gun. | ||
| And now it's like, and here's the bullet with the message saying, I don't like Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Okay, so I have a question for you on this then. | ||
| Let's say like he's planted. | ||
| Let's say Crooks, like we're going off the deep end, but maybe not so much. | ||
| What is the like? | ||
| Let's say Israel is involved. | ||
| How do they get these people to agree to this in the first place? | ||
| Is there like a large sum of money that they're promising their families? | ||
| Like, what do you think is the angle that causes somebody to be like, okay, I'll go along with this because I'm probably going to die still, or I'm going to go to jail for life? | ||
| What's the incentive? | ||
| You mean the Patsy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, what's the incentive to be that guy who you get called on by the agency? | ||
| You know, you might be a normal kid who didn't do a lot, so they don't have a lot on you, but they incentivize you somehow if that is the case scenario. | ||
| I mean, in reality, we don't even know it was. | ||
| We don't even know who was on the roof. | ||
| I mean, if you look at the video, where's the shadow? | ||
| You don't even know in this day and age, is that even a real video of somebody on there? | ||
| Because it seems weird that nobody. | ||
| I mean, there was a one picture of the guy from the side that was in that position that you could see there is a guy up there. | ||
| I mean, was that a real video? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But it seems to me weird that the security team wouldn't notice a guy on the roof right in front. | ||
| You wouldn't be like, who's the guy on the front or the roof right in front of us? | ||
| Like, that's not a thing. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And then, uh, and then, and then they don't show you him shooting. | ||
| I have a feeling that when the case comes to pass, they'll probably show you the first five seconds where he'll be there, whether it's CGI or it's real or whatever. | ||
| That's not, they can just generate, you know, or he, or there could have been a guy on the roof that they just had a guy. | ||
| It couldn't have even been, it might not have even been the Patsy. | ||
| I mean, have you heard the Patsy talk? | ||
| The Patsy's never talk. | ||
| You know, he's there, he's like nodding. | ||
| For all you know, he's in another room. | ||
| They're like, Can you tell us your name? | ||
| Yes, no. | ||
| You don't even know if he was listening to the judge. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's been asking him questions. | ||
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Like, are you aware of the charges that make me like, yeah, yeah, okay. | |
| Did you pull the trigger? | ||
| Is your name? | ||
| You don't hear the other mic. | ||
| You just hear him go, yep, yep, yep. | ||
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Like, just admitted it. | |
| He did it. | ||
| Yeah, go ahead. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| I keep on it. | ||
| But no, I'm sorry. | ||
| I keep talking too much. | ||
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I'm sorry. | |
| I'm taking over this. | ||
| No, I'm just like my dad. | ||
| I got the interrupter gene, but we live in a world where anything the public has, the government has ultimately decades before. | ||
| We don't know what kind of AI technology they have to generate things. | ||
| We don't have any proof. | ||
| I mean, look, Thomas Crooks tried to kill the president, apparently, on live TV, like as he's streaming, as he's doing a rally. | ||
| And we don't have any shots of it at all. | ||
| They're just like, oh, they kill him really quick and they get rid of the body. | ||
| And then they spray off the roof too. | ||
| But the roof is smashed. | ||
| I was actually, I actually had the first person on that roof, believe it or not. | ||
| I was on Owen's show and I was like, I can't believe no one's not going out there. | ||
| And someone called me. | ||
| They're like, I'll go. | ||
| We live streamed. | ||
| I said, get on the roof. | ||
| Get on the roof. | ||
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First guy I ever got on the roof was a guy I got up there. | |
| But yeah, so let's be clear. | ||
| It doesn't need to be AI. | ||
| If you have a black ops team and these teams are paid, they're mercenaries. | ||
| They go and they kill people in countries all the time. | ||
| They find someone who's like, I don't give a fuck. | ||
| Give me the money. | ||
| Yeah, that's the thing I'm trying to understand. | ||
| But these are like, we're talking about not like Patsy. | ||
| I haven't even heard from the Patsy. | ||
| We don't even know the Patsy was on the roof. | ||
| We know a guy was seen getting off the roof. | ||
| There's no way to tell who that is. | ||
| So they just have their team. | ||
| They have a guy on a roof. | ||
| And after it happens, run off the roof. | ||
| We'll get you on the camera. | ||
| And then we'll claim that's the Patsy. | ||
| You don't even need CGI. | ||
| You don't even anything. | ||
| Even have them up there. | ||
| So make sure somebody gets a photograph of you on the roof. | ||
| All right. | ||
| There's a guy on the roof. | ||
| There's a guy jumping off a roof. | ||
| Who's the guy? | ||
| Why, why did they? | ||
| I guess like it's to galvanize support maybe for the person. | ||
| Because when I, when this happened, I was coming out of church and I literally turned on Infowars and I'm watching them do breaking coverage of it. | ||
| And I did three hours, four hours with, I believe I did it with Harrison. | ||
| I could be wrong. | ||
| Maybe I did it with Chase. | ||
| My dad called in. | ||
| It's all a blur now. | ||
| But I pulled the cross out of my shirt and I told people to vote for Trump because I thought they were going to kill him because he was anti-war. | ||
| And, like, this is, but it galvanized that in me to such an extreme degree where I was like, yes, like, I was kind of wishy-washy before I wanted Biden gone, of course, but I'm going to go back like full blood now. | ||
| Yeah, I was out in the street with a with a Trump hat on. | ||
| I had, I had my Trump head on. | ||
| I was running around town. | ||
| I was going, you tried to kill me. | ||
| You tried to kill me. | ||
| You almost missed. | ||
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See, if it had been, you know, it was a leftist because they catch you. | |
| The left, they can't shoot. | ||
| They can't shit. | ||
| If I had a bit of right-wing, they would have got me. | ||
| But thank God, they're right-wing, they know how to ship. | ||
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The leftist, they just can't shoot. | |
| So I was running out in the street, like doing the Trump thing and getting. | ||
| I love the fact that you hated on the word content earlier. | ||
| The C-word. | ||
| I hate that word. | ||
| Yeah, media, man. | ||
| That's what we used to call it back in the good old days. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| I was old enough to remember that. | ||
| But don't you see, like, with this whole thing, like, let's say you take the assassination temp and then, like, Trump gets in. | ||
| It's like, you know, you've got all these crazy scenarios happening, but then you just get bamboozled at the end of the day. | ||
| For me, I was also like, oh, they tried to kill him. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Now he has to be in. | ||
| But not to go back to the original thing that we were talking about, but it's made him so legendary at the rallies. | ||
| There's a picture of him. | ||
| Are you going to show the clip? | ||
| No, my bad. | ||
| I was going to tell people to repost the stream on X and StreamYard can't post X. My bad. | ||
| Continue. | ||
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| You know, all I was saying is, is like, I don't know about your perspective, Matt, but like during that time period, it was like, okay, vote for Trump, get in. | ||
| He's going to do all these different things. | ||
| Have you felt like it's matched your expectations from this whole scenario happening? | ||
| Like, do you feel like you went in with the mask and you're parading, but do you feel like, okay, I made a mistake? | ||
| Or do you, how do you feel about the situation now? | ||
| I mean, I do feel like it's very highly possible that not only was I, but a lot of people were played. | ||
| If you want to take me down my deepest, darkest conspiracy hole is like, what is the one thing Trump has done good is close the border. | ||
| But is that, could that really just be so that they can have the secret police and have the Palantir tracking and tracing everyone? | ||
| Is that really all it's really about? | ||
| And it was never really about we want to stop them because he's a deal maker. | ||
| Or the darkest, darkest one is if you believe he and maybe Charlie Kirk's wife and all these people are involved in child trafficking, maybe he wanted supply and demand to go back up. | ||
| Like his homies who are running the child trafficking are like, dude, what's all this? | ||
| All these child trafficking coming across the border. | ||
| It's killing our killing our market. | ||
| People go out and get child sex slaves $5 a piece now. | ||
| This is ruining our game. | ||
| So we're going to shut the border down and we'll get rid of the Epstein files and we'll have our secret networks of sex trafficking back in the game, the high dollar stuff. | ||
| It's all cooked. | ||
| It's all really, really bad. | ||
| I mean, you look at you look at things twice and then three times. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or another one is, is I've started to think this about Trump and I want to believe, but you know, it's getting harder and harder. | ||
| Like, like, did he really believe the Gaza thing was going to stick? | ||
| Or is he just another photo up? | ||
| Like, sometimes I think Trump will literally do anything. | ||
| And when he says he's not going to do something, that's literally just the art of the deal. | ||
| He's like, we're going to crack down on these. | ||
| These medical companies are cracking down on them. | ||
| We're going to get it. | ||
| Yeah, we're going to get rid of these. | ||
| We're going to get rid of the vaccine. | ||
| We're going to do all this. | ||
| We're going to take your money away. | ||
| We're going to shut these down. | ||
| Basically, he's going in there and he's like stabbing the pharmaceutical companies. | ||
| Like, listen, bitch, I'll completely cut you guys off. | ||
| You won't make a penny. | ||
| And they'd be like, okay, okay, all right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And then they would actually instantly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like, so he tells he goes in, he tells Zelensky, he's like, You got no cards, you got nothing you're gonna do, you're gonna die, we're gonna give you nothing. | ||
| And he's like, Actually, we're gonna do because obviously the deal was made. | ||
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It's like, Yeah, no, I like him now, he's good, he's good, we got this going. | |
| And it's like, you know, Bibi Netanyahu, he's a piece of shit. | ||
| And this is like, Bibi, he's great, he's great. | ||
| So it's basically whatever he says he's not gonna do, it just means he's really driving a hard bargain. | ||
| And yeah, because the Ukraine does that indication, yeah, the Ukraine situation, more treasure, or whatever, or more child sex slaves. | ||
| Yeah, no, I can see that perspective. | ||
| The whole thing with the whole Ukraine situation in Russia, it was like at one point, Zelensky was like the little man. | ||
| We hate Zelensky, we don't like him, right? | ||
| And like, Putin was the bestie, and then suddenly, like, you've got like four months later, where like Putin, like, you're not, you're not behaving, Putin. | ||
| And now, Zelensky's like the trophy kid. | ||
| And it's like, hold on, what? | ||
| What's going on here? | ||
| You look at Zelensky, he's their perfect soldier. | ||
| I mean, it would be like having Kevin Spacey as the president. | ||
| He was literally the president on a Ukrainian TV show. | ||
| That's how they got people to vote for Zelensky because he was this likable guy on this show. | ||
| And people are like, oh, I want him to be the president. | ||
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He's like, millions must die for me to fulfill my plan. | |
| Like, it's so crazy. | ||
| You must give me a king. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you have big ocean. | ||
| You not feel pain now, but you feel pain later. | ||
| I need big weapons. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's so crazy. | ||
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I really on the roads and spend money on water. | |
| Here's the thing. | ||
| With Netanyahu, at least he's an elite political operator who's like the head of his faction. | ||
| Zelensky is literally a puppet. | ||
| He's a cutout for the West in that region. | ||
| And people buy this Star Wars narrative like it's the rebel alliance versus the empire. | ||
| When in reality, both sides are bad because both sides serve their own self-interest, right? | ||
| That's the way it is in any war. | ||
| But we get fed this Star Wars narrative and people both on the left and on the right. | ||
| I saw Chase talk about this. | ||
| He went out to the No Kings protest and he was asking people what they thought about Israel, but also what they thought about Ukraine. | ||
| And universally, even people on the right that he talked to, yeah, you know, like Trump's not doing enough to support Zelensky. | ||
| We got to support Zelensky because they're fighting the evil Russians. | ||
| And, you know, Trump came into office the first term. | ||
| And it's crazy to think about a lot of people don't even know this. | ||
| He was so anti-Russia because he had been the narrative was that he's a Russian agent, he's a Russian asset. | ||
| So Trump came in and he took a really hard line against Russia, both in the first term and now really in the second term, almost in a way to be like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I swear, I'm not. | ||
| But the thing is, when you back the Ukrainian regime and you give them $300 billion and you say, oh, there's no money to do anything for the citizens or the people here. | ||
| I remember in Trump's first term, they were like, it costs $5 billion to build the wall. | ||
| Oh, that's too much money. | ||
| You're going to take money away from tax programs. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| And then we just give like hundreds of billions of dollars to the overseas regimes. | ||
| Like it's, it's all, it's all a dichotomy, a false dichotomy where they go, establishment left, establishment right. | ||
| These are our issues. | ||
| And oh, we can't address this thing when we're in power because, oh, the evil other side, they won't let us do it. | ||
| And the other side gets in power and they blame the other side. | ||
| And it just goes on and on and on and on. | ||
| At the end of the day, all these things to like end homelessness, to end food insecurity, to give people health care at the end of the day. | ||
| We get told that that's unreasonable. | ||
| We don't have the money for it. | ||
| And we just turn on the money printer as long as death is involved, as long as scamming is involved, as long as wars are involved. | ||
| We have all the money in the world for these things. | ||
| And we're the best at it. | ||
| We brag about it. | ||
| We got the most lethal military. | ||
| We got all the weapons, but people are starving. | ||
| It rubs me the wrong way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And all of our roads are crumbling. | ||
| I mean, you see these things, these things, these things in China that they have. | ||
| China, I mean, they build these beautiful bridges, these beautiful train stations, these beautiful cities, and just our cities, they must just look at us and be like, oh, man, they're done. | ||
| Just keep, they're just playing the long game. | ||
| They're like, oh, dude, these guys are going to tear each other apart pretty soon. | ||
| They're just like, there's no way these guys are going to last. | ||
| I mean, our society, we used to have the biggest buildings, the fastest cars, everything. | ||
| And now it's just like China's launching bigger spaceships. | ||
| China's got new AIs. | ||
| China's, you know, they've got. | ||
| bridges longer and more beautiful with with waterfalls coming off of them. | ||
| You know, they've got they've got train stations with high-speed trains that look like they're literally, you know, space stations from like a thousand years in the future. | ||
| And our cities and our towns are just crumbling and just falling apart. | ||
| It's, it's horrific. | ||
| And again, back to the, back to, it seems like Trump, no matter what he does, whenever he says he doesn't want to do something, he actually does want to do it, but he wants to get a cut or his part out of it. | ||
| So he goes and he says, where's all the money? | ||
| War, pharmaceuticals. | ||
| So pharmaceuticals, all your vaccines, everything's going to be taken up to you're going to get nothing. | ||
| And war, you're going to get nothing. | ||
| It's like, oh, well, come on. | ||
| Trump is like, no, you get nothing. | ||
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Come on, come on. | |
| You're getting nothing. | ||
| It's like, oh, okay. | ||
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All right. | |
| All right. | ||
| You get your. | ||
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Okay. | |
| You can have war. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You wanted the, okay, you get the vaccines. | ||
| But we want the AI. | ||
| We want all the surveillance stuff and all that stuff. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We get that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You okay? | ||
| Keep pushing your vaccines then. | ||
| So it's just like, it's all just a deal. | ||
| Everything's a freaking deal. | ||
| You know, 100%. | ||
| There's no actual soul behind it. | ||
| It's all art of the deal, like we've talked about tonight. | ||
| It's all the big club, the big game. | ||
| It's all special interests. | ||
| It's all the people that we don't see behind the scenes that are actually making everything happen. | ||
| And all of our political figureheads on the left or the right, it seems. | ||
| And, you know, it's really become sadly evident with Trump because Trump was the guy we thought was different, kind of like that proto-third party type energy. | ||
| It is really all two wings on the same bird. | ||
| So in closing, Matt, this has been a phenomenal interview. | ||
| Thank you for coming on. | ||
| And we're going to do this again, man. | ||
| This was really fun. | ||
| It's always great to talk to you. | ||
| I loved meeting you at the American Liberty Awards. | ||
| And I hope we get to do something like that again. | ||
| I got one last one for you, Matt. | ||
| You know, we've talked a lot, but you personally, I just want to understand if you can quickly summarize this. | ||
| Like, what is your mission at this point in your life? | ||
| Like, what drives you? | ||
| What's your motivation? | ||
| I know you have, you know, your own fan base. | ||
| You come on, you're doing this show. | ||
| I mean, what is what drives you at the end of the day? | ||
| What do you want to see as like your ultimate vision for like America and maybe the whole greater good? | ||
| Well, you know, I honestly think all this political stuff is kind of a secondary thing. | ||
| I think I think the number one problem we have right now, it used to be, you know, I wanted to stop COVID. | ||
| I wanted to stop Fauci. | ||
| Now, now it's like, I want to stop the surveillance state. | ||
| I want to stop AI from taking over. | ||
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I like AI. | |
| I use AI, but, you know, when Alex says it's just a tool, you know, it's like any other tool. | ||
| It's like AI is not a tool when it's 100 or 1,000 times. | ||
| Right now, you can argue how smart it is. | ||
| But if you see this curve, it's going to be a thousand times smarter than every single human on the planet fairly soon. | ||
| And once it gets to that point, you are not, it is not your tool. | ||
| It will not be your tool. | ||
| And it will, through algorithms, through stealing your electricity, through controlling cars, through controlling traffic lights, eventually it's going to get to a point to where it's going to have us in a checkmate situation. | ||
| I just don't understand why the people, the psychos that run this world couldn't get together and say, hey, like you're a psycho. | ||
| I'm a psycho. | ||
| We like running stuff. | ||
| Do we really want to all be out of a job? | ||
| Do we really want to let AI take over? | ||
| I think the world needs to have a treaty. | ||
| We need to stop AI. | ||
| Other than that, there are many little problems, but I think once AI takes over, it's going to be everything else will just be deck chairs on the Titanic. | ||
| Totally agree. | ||
| Other than that, I want the truth. | ||
| I want the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. | ||
| I think it should be expanded across into the internet. | ||
| The idea that, like, well, they weren't talking about the internet. | ||
| It's like freedom of speech, right to privacy, having our own data, having the, having the ability to own your own data and get paid for generating your own data instead of constantly having other people stealing and owning your data. | ||
| I think going back to the basics of what the Constitution Bill of Rights and the Founding Fathers were really all about and expanding it into cyberspace. | ||
| We honestly really need a new human bill of rights for everyone. | ||
| And I think the American proto-model of having that was so good that we kind of impressed that around the world, where even where these countries, they don't, these countries in Europe, in Africa, in Asia, they don't really have human rights, but they've paid lip service to our new governmental system because it was so effective. | ||
| We've got to have a new digital bill of rights, a new human bill of rights for this new coming era. | ||
| Because we talked about earlier, you know, the like Mexican or like illegal immigrant laborers that work in the fields and are doing the farming. | ||
| Yeah, that's bad. | ||
| But what if we have robots doing all the farming? | ||
| And then it's truly over. | ||
| Well, thank you so much, Matt. | ||
| This was incredible. | ||
| And you got to come on again, man. | ||
| Yeah, you do. | ||
| Thanks, brother. | ||
| I'm going to DM you afterwards. | ||
| But yeah, thanks for having me on. | ||
| Really appreciate it. | ||
| Love you guys. | ||
| Stay strong. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| We're going to do a World War II. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Always incredible. | ||
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By the products. | |
| By the product. | ||
| We got more coming up. | ||
| I had so many things I want to talk about. | ||
| We'll talk about it next time. | ||
| Dude, we're going to do this again. | ||
| We are. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I'm going to use the potty now. | ||
| I'm going to take a bathroom. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So just to prelude before we get into this, Rex is going to go to the bathroom. | ||
| We'll get started here. | ||
| Don't, you guys don't want to leave this. | ||
| This is the segment. | ||
| This is getting good now. | ||
| This is getting good now. | ||
| This is the segment. | ||
| I thoroughly enjoyed this entire thing. | ||
| Yeah, he is a good guy. | ||
| And we're going to have more guests like that on a plethora of people, you know, right, left, center, you name it. | ||
| Like we've got a bunch of people that we want to have on. | ||
| And at the same time, we do these segments. | ||
| We're trying to give you guys value. | ||
| It's not just about entertainment. | ||
| It's not just about commentary. | ||
| It's also just getting different perspectives from different people. | ||
| And so this segment that we're coming up on, which you guys need to stay tuned for, is the World War II segment. | ||
| Now, to keep in mind, this World War II segment was not created by us. | ||
| It was created by you guys, right? | ||
| The watchers, the viewers. | ||
| So what we are doing and we're making a tradition out of this is we want to talk about what you guys want to talk about. | ||
| So for this one, I know a lot of people asked probably about a week and a half ago. | ||
| I was supposed to do it last week, but I went on vacation. | ||
| I had some other things I had to take care of. | ||
| But this is the moment where we are taking those things that you guys said and take into account. | ||
| Now, to give you a high-level overview of what we're going to talk about, there's so many things that people don't talk about when it comes to history. | ||
| History class teaches you one thing, but there's a different history that they don't talk. | ||
| Everyone always knows that history is written by the victors. | ||
| That is so true. | ||
| So we're taught that the allied powers, and we are taught that Britain, France, America, we were just perfect in this entire system and Hitler was the bad guy. | ||
| And I'm not here to defend Hitler. | ||
| What he did was very bad. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| It wasn't so black and white. | ||
| And there was things that we did in the background as these allied powers, which we should find very controversial. | ||
| And there were a lot of people that died from these decisions. | ||
| So in this segment, guys, we're going to go into primarily what geared up because you're going to see the parallel. | ||
| You're going to see the parallel of what happened from, you know, the 1920s, you know, 1918 when the First World War ended, all the way up to 1945 when the World War II ended. | ||
| But the main thing that we need to pay attention to is all the factors that went into why did we go to war in the first place? | ||
| And you're going to see as we get into this content, the same things are playing out today, guys. | ||
| A little bit different, but same song, different tune. | ||
| And it's getting scary because the thing is, you got to educate yourself about history so you don't repeat it. | ||
| Got to educate ourselves so that we don't repeat it. | ||
| But we get amnesia as a society, and we've got to make sure that we educate ourselves in this scenario. | ||
| So I'm going to read a couple of chats before we get started. | ||
| I'm going to let Rex get back. | ||
| I appreciate every single one of you guys that are sitting here and tuned in. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| I'm expecting this World War II segment to be epic. | ||
| Yes, New Groiper. | ||
| Yes, this came from you guys. | ||
| Let's see what else people are talking about here. | ||
| I honestly feel, I honestly think that federal politics is a distraction and a waste of time. | ||
| We must use the local governments to nullify and decentralize, collaborate local vetoes over the state and federal action. | ||
| Well, I mean, the federal government, this was something that the founding fathers were afraid of. | ||
| You know, this wasn't their intention. | ||
| We did a whole segment on that. | ||
| Go watch that on our YouTube. | ||
| I've seen other people talking about: do we have other platforms that we're streaming this on? | ||
| Yes, we have YouTube, we have Rumble, and we have X. X is kind of the center guy. | ||
| And then we also have content for you guys on long form that you guys should definitely go and watch and check out. | ||
| You can find those links in the gray area talks. | ||
| If you look in the top right corner, which is my top right corner, you can see it says that is our X tag. | ||
| Go click on that and you'll see in the bio, you will see the links to the YouTube and the Rumble. | ||
| But Rex is getting set up. | ||
| We're about to get this rolling, but we're going to do this little cutscene. | ||
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All right. | |
| Ooh. | ||
| The trust comes coming. | ||
| Let's be fair. | ||
| So the pain. | ||
| Say a prayer. | ||
| Say the word. | ||
| Say the word to be queer. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
| World War II. | ||
| The Yankees. | ||
| We are the Yankees. | ||
| This is going to be a fun segment, guys. | ||
| I love doing these props. | ||
| I tell you. | ||
| This is the most enjoyable part for me. | ||
| Are we still cooked? | ||
| This is possible. | ||
| We might still be cooked, guys. | ||
| But let's get into this segment. | ||
| All right. | ||
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And really quick before we do, Rupert. | |
| Look at that, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Dog Cam. | ||
| Rupert is in the house, guys. | ||
| I know you guys were asking about him earlier. | ||
| He's been chilling on the couch. | ||
| He's been a good boy tonight. | ||
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| He's in the studio now. | ||
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Rupert. | |
| All right. | ||
| World War II. | ||
| Let's take it from the top. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So let's queue up this map first. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| A little scared. | ||
| That was terrifying. | ||
| I think my heart dropped for a second. | ||
| Can you guys still hear us? | ||
| Can you guys still see us? | ||
| Can you see my army hat? | ||
| Can you see my glasses? | ||
| Please tell me we are still live. | ||
| Yeah, we're still live. | ||
| We're good. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Woo! | |
| There's these buttons, these gamer key, these gamer mouses are scary, man. | ||
| There's like a back button on this. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let me get this set up for you guys because I got to redo this because I thought we lost you for a second. | ||
| It's like losing your family. | ||
| Scary. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let's pull this guy up. | ||
| First one is going to be, let's show the map. | ||
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Okay, we're going to pull this guy up. | |
| Zoom in. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| I can help you out. | ||
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All right. | |
| I'll let you take the wheel. | ||
| Zoom in that guy. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So cue. | ||
| So everybody knows there was two wars. | ||
| You got World War I, and then you've got World War II, which is what we're focused on. | ||
| But World War I was important, guys, because this is what set the stage for a lot of the despair that created why Hitler even exists till today, right? | ||
| So we had in 1919, we had what was called the Treaty of Versailles, which was Germany takes full blame for World War I. They're forced to pay $6 billion in reparations, which is a lot of money back then, guys. | ||
| This is like over. | ||
| Yeah, this is like something that you wouldn't even be able to afford in a whole country like that. | ||
| That's already in peril. | ||
| And they had a lot of bombing. | ||
| They didn't have the ability to make these payments. | ||
| Their army was capped at 100,000 men. | ||
| They weren't allowed to have tanks. | ||
| They weren't allowed to have subs, Air Force. | ||
| The Rhineland, which is like this little region on the Western Front, that was given away. | ||
| And so you can see the land that the German Empire and the Austria-Hungary Empire, what they had. | ||
| And essentially, they just went in, they divvied it up. | ||
| They just said, all right, you get this. | ||
| We're creating these new countries here. | ||
| We're creating these new countries there. | ||
| And the size of Germany was significantly shortened. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So the problem is, is that that was 13% of its land and 10% of its population, including like key industrial regions. | ||
| And it was a psychological hit, guys. | ||
| You know, the Germans were very prideful in their country. | ||
| This is something that was instilled to them from their, you know, chancellor. | ||
| And so a lot of them felt humiliated and betrayed, right? | ||
| So this sets up the stage perfectly for a man that we all know as Hitler, but people don't always know what got him into power. | ||
| So we're going to cue this video up, which is going to show, you know, how the Great Depression and a lot of these financial situations actually led to, you know, the reason why Hitler got in. | ||
| Let's cue the rise of Hitler's party. | ||
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Poverty and decline. | |
| In this climate of bitterness, Hitler rose to prominence. | ||
| A gifted public speaker, he captured the people's disillusionment with a series of speeches calling for a stronger, unified Germany. | ||
| He insisted that one group was to blame for the nation's post-war misfortunes, the Jews. | ||
| Hitler and his followers attempted a government coup in 1923, but the plan failed. | ||
| Hitler was jailed for treason for nine months, but the publicity from the failed coup made him more popular than ever. | ||
| Then, in 1929, the Great Depression hit, destroying the German economy overnight and leaving millions unemployed. | ||
| Hitler saw the ensuing chaos as his opportunity to seize power. | ||
| He loudly criticized the ruling government and promised to return Germany to greatness. | ||
| Long-suffering Germans believed they had finally found their savior. | ||
| In Germany's 1932 elections, the Nazis won a majority of seats in parliament, and Hitler ran for president. | ||
| Though he lost, his soaring popularity inspired President Paul von Hindenburg to appoint him chancellor, the head of the German government. | ||
| As chancellor, Hitler wasted no time tightening his grip on every aspect of German life. | ||
| He tripled the size of the military, violating the Treaty of Versailles. | ||
| Under Hitler's orders, rival parties were banned, while paramilitary groups cracked down on protests and executed political opponents. | ||
| Anti-Semitic laws prohibited Jews from working, voting, and occupying public spaces. | ||
| A propaganda department produced art, films, and books praising Hitler and embracing his vision of a better Germany. | ||
| After the death of President von Hindenburg in 1934, Hitler declared himself Führer, an absolute dictator. | ||
| With Germany under his total control, Hitler would shift his focus to global domination, setting the stage for World War II. | ||
| Yeah, so getting into Hitler talking about this, it's an interesting topic, number one. | ||
| Hitler was a World War I veteran. | ||
| Yes, he was. | ||
| And people point him and they go, oh, look, funny mustache. | ||
| They had mustaches like that, so they could still wear gas masks. | ||
| That's where that all comes from. | ||
| So Hitler endures the horrors of World War I. | ||
| And he sees this loss of, you know, national power, national empire that Otto von Bismarck and really the Germans had created for themselves. | ||
| And he sees the rise of the Weimar Republic and he sees kind of a fall into what he perceives to be degeneracy, into stagnation, into like anti-nationalism. | ||
| And he doesn't want to stand for it. | ||
| So that's why he becomes this great political figure is because he's able to tap into that rage because he has it himself. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And when you have a lot of people that are miserable and you got a lot of people that are unhappy and they're depressed, you can easily galvanize them because they're looking for a way out and you just have to promise them that. | ||
| So the thing about this is everyone thinks that this 1939, you know, when Germany invaded Poland, everybody's heard that in the history books. | ||
| They're like, okay, that's what really started World War II. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| There was like an entire decade prior to this where you had all this shifting around and instability and the world was already on fire, right? | ||
| So, I mean, you had the Great Depression didn't just crush the United States. | ||
| It crushed Germany. | ||
| It crushed a lot of other economies because everyone was tied globally to the United States and their stock market. | ||
| And so everything crashed across. | ||
| And this is actually, it's crazy because this is one of the dominoes that sets the course. | ||
| Inadvertently, the United States' greed and these things have set the course of these depressions in a certain aspect. | ||
| Now, it's not all just the United States, but this is a major factor. | ||
| So here's the thing. | ||
| You had Italy under Mussolini. | ||
| They wanted to conquest. | ||
| They turned to conquest. | ||
| They wanted to distract from the economic chaos. | ||
| You even had Spain that erupted in 1936. | ||
| They had their own civil war where you had Hitler and Mussolini arming a man named Franco who kind of read, who kind of led this right anti government, the establishment government situation where they had basically civil war. | ||
| And then you had the Soviet Russians backing the other side, the original government. | ||
| So, I mean, it was basically like a dress rehearsal for World War II. | ||
| And even Japan was hit by this economic. economic collapse. | ||
| And that was what caused them to invade a region of China called Manchuria in 1931. | ||
| And that's because for people who don't know, Japan is not rich in natural resources. | ||
| They have nothing. | ||
| They have nothing, right? | ||
| But everything around them has natural resources. | ||
| And Manchuria is one of those regions where they had, you know, a lot of natural materials that they could go. | ||
| And you're leading into it. | ||
| This is where we get the term Manchurian candidate. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And one of the things that happened when they went and attacked Manchuria during this 1931, it was called the rape of Nanking, right? | ||
| So people don't know, but Germans did their own atrocities, but the Japanese did some crazy stuff. | ||
| They were killing 200,000 citizens. | ||
| They carried out mass sexual assaults. | ||
| And, you know, there was a lot of chaos, like I said, before Hitler even invaded Poland. | ||
| And so when Hitler invaded Poland in 1939, that's when it became official, essentially. | ||
| So, you know, it's crazy. | ||
| During this entire time, we had a little thing called the League of Nations. | ||
| They couldn't do shit. | ||
| Do you know what the League of Nations is, Rex? | ||
| Proto-UN. | ||
| Yeah, it's essentially what we kind of see as the UN now. | ||
| And it was an organization meant to stop. | ||
| They established this after World War I, where they're like, oh, we don't want to ever run into this situation again. | ||
| So they formed this to prevent another global conflict. | ||
| And, you know, it's crazy because they only issued statements and sanctions and no one followed it. | ||
| And what's even more crazy is even while the world started falling apart and you had Japan invading, you had Italy having, you know, invading Ethiopia, you had Spain in the civil war, you know, Britain and France were just still haunted by World War I. | ||
| They refused to intervene. | ||
| They were scared of escalation. | ||
| And meanwhile, all these nations are begging for help from the League of Nations. | ||
| And the irony is, is each one of these countries that were being aggressive, they were part of the League of Nations. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it's like, isn't it like a spinning parallel to the UN now? | ||
| We've got all these people condemning people in the UN currently, right? | ||
| But what's really being about it? | ||
| Yeah, they don't do anything about it. | ||
| And that's such a great point, Tim. | ||
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| So, I mean, let's cue the let's cue this map of the League of Nations just so people can see. | ||
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I got you. | |
| Keep talking. | ||
| So this map that we're about to show you guys, that one, yeah. | ||
| Zoom in on that guy. | ||
| So as you can see with the League of Nations, you can see the members that left. | ||
| You can see the members that, you know, colonies of the members. | ||
| It was supposed to be this global order, you know, it was supposed to be something that everybody was a part of and you could condemn people. | ||
| But again, like I said, it's the same parallel as we see today. | ||
| So now this cues the main attraction, which is Germany's territorial expansions, which started from 1936 to 1939. | ||
| Can we please bring that up for our people as well? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| All right. | ||
| This one? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So guys, pay attention to this map. | ||
| Remember I said that red. | ||
| Germany before on the World War I map that we show, it's bigger and then World War II map pre-World War II, it's got that giant chunk bitten out of it. | ||
| Yes, that's Czechoslovakia, okay? | ||
| And that and Rex is pointing on something that is important. | ||
| So in 1936, 36, what he does, Hitler does, is he re-remilitarizes the Rhineland, which is supposed to be this neutral zone. | ||
| That's that red area right there on the left that you see there. | ||
| And then it's violating the Treaty of Versailles, and everybody's like, oh my God, you can't do that. | ||
| Again, nobody's doing anything about it. | ||
| Hitler's like, okay, what are you going to do? | ||
| And then you get into 1938, and then he takes Austria. | ||
| So he takes Austria and, you know, he starts calling them, you're my people, essentially. | ||
| And he wanted to take control of also Czechoslovakia. | ||
| The thing about this was Hitler all of these territories because he felt like these were my ethnic people. | ||
| Yeah, this is German land. | ||
| There was German land. | ||
| There was German people. | ||
| There was people that spoke the language. | ||
| And they wanted to bring those people back into it. | ||
| Really quick, pre-World War I, pre-all of this German, Germany and Prussia, it was a place that was made out of dozens and dozens of countries. | ||
| It was Otto von Bismarck that was able to unite this place into one giant German empire. | ||
| Go ahead, Tim. | ||
| The main issue where all of this starts to have conflict is the Czechoslovakia, right? | ||
| So he wanted to go in and take Czechoslovakia, specifically the Sudetenland, okay? | ||
| Because that's like the primary driver of where you see like a lot of the German ethnic people. | ||
| And, you know, it's interesting because to avoid war, you know, you had Britain and France, they signed this Munich agreement where they say, okay, look, Hitler, we know you're going to go and do this anyways because you didn't listen to us and you've been taking land from all these people for years. | ||
| So we're going to legally give you these lands as long as you promise to stop here and stop taking other countries. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So you can have that little green area that you see on the outside of Czechoslovakia. | ||
| And then you should be able to. | ||
| Oh, I'm going to pull it back up. | ||
| You're good. | ||
| Essentially, you can have that area. | ||
| As long as you take that area, we're good. | ||
| There's no fighting. | ||
| We're good. | ||
| And so during that time period, while all of this is happening, you know, the Britain, France, a lot of these were trying to create like an alliance with the Soviet Soviet Union, that bottom left. | ||
| A little technical error because I've had fingered it. | ||
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| Okay. | ||
| Zoom in. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And while we're doing this, you'll have to pull up the other thing. | ||
| But long story short, Britain, France, and the Soviet Union were trying to form an alliance against Hitler because they saw he was doing all this land grab and causing issues. | ||
| But again, the Western people took their time. | ||
| They couldn't figure out a deal. | ||
| So it's crazy because what ended up happening is everyone thinks that the Soviet Union was like this innocent, like part of the Allies, but they did something really shady here, guys. | ||
| Essentially, what they did during this time period is they formed, once that negotiation between Britain, France, and the USSR fell through, they formed a secret non-aggression pact with Germany. | ||
| They secretly conspired to create a deal where they would divide Eastern Europe between them. | ||
| So essentially, USSR is like, okay, we're going to take this half of Poland. | ||
| We'll take Finland. | ||
| We'll take a little bit of these Dutch countries. | ||
| And Germany, you can have the other half. | ||
| And meanwhile, the Allied powers, which aren't the Allied powers quite yet, they don't know any of this is happening. | ||
| So they shake on it. | ||
| They're like, okay, let's do this. | ||
| And then that is when Hitler invades Poland. | ||
| And that is what kicks off the war because three days later, that is when France and Britain officially declare war against Hitler. | ||
| Even though Russia was part of this deal, isn't that insane? | ||
| It is insane. | ||
| It's pretty crazy. | ||
| So this is the moment that the textbooks say that mark World War II. | ||
| But here's the thing that we aren't talking about in history class as well. | ||
| Rex had pointed us out before, but do you know, it doesn't, you can't just make all these weapons and get all these people without money. | ||
| You know, it takes money in order to create an army and rearm, you know, your entire government system to create the monster that Hitler was able to do. | ||
| And what's crazy is the U.S. and Britain and a lot of these other countries were responsible for it. | ||
| So we're going to queue up this video that shows how, where'd the money for all this come from? | ||
| Where'd the money come from? | ||
| Came from us, guys. | ||
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| You want to do an intro for it? | ||
| No, no, we can go right into it. | ||
| But long story short with this guy, this is called the Bank of International Settlements. | ||
| It's basically this international bank that loans money, moves money around the world. | ||
| And they essentially let Hitler do this thing. | ||
| And this is like, you guys really need to pay attention to this part because I had no clue this existed while I started a research and they don't talk about this thing. | ||
| All right, so let's go. | ||
| Let's go ahead and roll the clip. | ||
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Balance sheet said another, but the real scandal wasn't what happened before the war. | |
| It was what happened during it. | ||
| September 1939. | ||
| War is declared. | ||
| Citizens are told this is a battle for civilization itself. | ||
| Good versus evil, freedom versus tyranny. | ||
| And in Basel, the Bank for International Settlements opens its doors for another meeting. | ||
| Business as usual. | ||
| By 1939, the BIS had become a financial sanctuary where enemies could do business. | ||
| As cities burned and armies clashed, they continued to meet, continued to facilitate transactions, continued to move money across battle lines. | ||
| The BIS handled gold for the Reichsbank, Hitler's central bank, and not just any gold, looted gold. | ||
| Train cars arriving in the dead of night. | ||
| Gold bars stamped with the national seals of countries that no longer existed. | ||
| Czechoslovakia, Austria, Belgium, Poland. | ||
| Gold melted down from wedding rings, from jewelry, from the teeth of Holocaust victims. | ||
| That gold moved through the BIS. | ||
| It was laundered through Swiss banks, converted into currency the Nazis used to buy raw materials from neutral countries. | ||
| Tungsten from Portugal, ball bearings from Sweden, oil from Romania. | ||
| And the men facilitating this? | ||
| Respected central bankers in three-piece suits. | ||
| The president was an American named Thomas McKittrick. | ||
| The Nazis had a legal, internationally recognized pipeline to convert stolen assets into usable capital. | ||
| So while the world thought it was fighting fascism, finance was fighting for profit. | ||
| In March 1939, six months before the war even started, the Bank of England made a decision that still stuns historians. | ||
| Czechoslovakia had gold reserves held in London. | ||
| When Hitler's tanks rolled into Prague, the Nazis demanded that gold. | ||
| And the Bank of England under Governor Montague Norman handed it over. | ||
| Crates of Czech gold sitting in British vaults guarded by British soldiers. | ||
| And they transferred it directly to the Reichsbank, not under duress, because they honored the financial claim. | ||
| Britain would be at war with Germany six months later. | ||
| And yet the Bank of England prioritized a banking obligation over national interest. | ||
| For Norman and men like him, banks existed above nations. | ||
| And then there was America, officially neutral until December 1941, but deeply, profitably entangled. | ||
| The Union Banking Corporation, a New York bank with heavy investments in the Thyssen Empire. | ||
| Fritz Thyssen bankrolled Hitler when the Nazi party was still fringe. | ||
| And guess who sat on the board? | ||
| Prescott Bush, father of President George H.W. Bush, grandfather of President George W. Bush. | ||
| In 1942, after the U.S. entered the war, the government finally seized the bank's assets. | ||
| But by then, years of profitable business had already been conducted. | ||
| Standard Oil kept supplying Germany with crucial petroleum additives through neutral intermediaries. | ||
| Without them, the Luftwaffe's fighters would have been grounded. | ||
| The excuse, legal separation. | ||
| The parent company stays clean. | ||
| The subsidiary does the dirty work. | ||
| Money flows quietly upward. | ||
| It's the same playbook. | ||
| Well, talk about this, man. | ||
| What do you think about this? | ||
| Well, I mean, it's kind of the same thing we see today. | ||
| And isn't it funny how there's always someone related to someone that does something, right? | ||
| The Bush Empire, the Bush royal family, the Bush dynasty. | ||
| Where did they come from? | ||
| Where did they get all their money from? | ||
| Well, financing the Nazis during World War II. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| And it's so crazy because you keep, you guys both said this, you and Matt. | ||
| You were like, well, you know, the person that wins the war essentially establishes the narrative. | ||
| Like it couldn't be any, like, do you think they would put this in a history book? | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| You know, that's like self-incriminating. | ||
| So here's the thing. | ||
| It's crazy because they want to take the money after the damage is already done. | ||
| It's like, imagine your bank account is like halfway across the world. | ||
| Someone invades your house. | ||
| It's like, all right, I stole everything in his house. | ||
| His property is mine. | ||
| And then he calls up your local banking. | ||
| He's like, you know what? | ||
| The house wasn't enough. | ||
| Give me his money too. | ||
| Meg goes, yeah, I mean, your claim is correct. | ||
| I guess you just gotta give us money. | ||
| Look, we ultimately, we're so far in the future. | ||
| We don't really know the real machinations, but it seems like this was all to just set up a global system at the end of the day. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That we're living in now. | ||
| So we're here. | ||
| Yeah, we're here. | ||
| And the thing is, is the reason why the banks would do this in the first place, it's because every transaction, there is a fee associated with that transaction. | ||
| If you're talking about billions worth of dollars, that's a lot of money that these guys make and that's payday. | ||
| So that's what it comes down to. | ||
| And so I'm glad we got into this because now we go into the main theater of the war. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And we're going to kind of like, we won't go too deep into this because there's a lot that happens during this chapter. | ||
| And we're primarily focusing on Europe because that's the immediate tide. | ||
| But this is like a segment that needs to be like split up into two sections. | ||
| So this one is kind of like more primarily like, how did World War II happen? | ||
| And then a little bit of the story. | ||
| But I think later on, we're going to do like a real dive into like the crazy stuff that happened. | ||
| We'll be revisiting this time. | ||
| We'll be revisiting it because it's too big to ignore. | ||
| And we got to talk about, we got to air everybody's laundry out, guys. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So war erupts. | ||
| Germany takes this approach called the Blitzkrieg, which is called the Lightning War. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I'm so glad you know this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So when they went in and they invaded Poland, they did it all in like tanks and vehicles. | ||
| It was the first time that mechanized warfare became a real reality. | ||
| And this is the thing, and Tim, we'll get into this a little bit later. | ||
| The French military at this time was seen as the pinnacle. | ||
| Like they were the best. | ||
| They helped win World War I. | ||
| This is, these are the best guys out here. | ||
| Hitler stormed through the Ardennes forest in under three days and he did it using tanks and methamphetamine. | ||
| And like this is modern day, all these same things are used. | ||
| Stimulants, mechanized warfare, quick response, quick attack forces. | ||
| But at this time, people were still riding horses into battle. | ||
| Yeah, and then they also had trenches. | ||
| And that's why like World War I was like, the lines wouldn't move. | ||
| And it was just a meat grinder because you would get up, go over no man's land, get mowed down by some machine guns. | ||
| And then basically Germany is like, you know what? | ||
| Let's try something different. | ||
| Let's not do and build all these things. | ||
| We'll just steamroll. | ||
| We'll get boosted up and we'll just run over everybody. | ||
| So what they did was they did. | ||
| this Blitzkrieg. | ||
| It worked perfectly in Poland. | ||
| And then they did, what they ended up doing is they were like, you know what? | ||
| Let's do this in France. | ||
| We could do this as well and we could overrun them. | ||
| And this is exactly what they did. | ||
| And it's crazy because France had all of this like defensive military built up along the border because they were like, okay, we're just going to be a defense country. | ||
| But they weren't prepared for something like this. | ||
| And so essentially France gets destroyed. | ||
| Paris gets taken over. | ||
| Germany is now like parading around. | ||
| They're like, we own all of France. | ||
| We have all this land. | ||
| And then they turn their sights on Britain. | ||
| And so during Britain, it's a little harder because he can't use vehicles. | ||
| So what does he do? | ||
| He's like, we're just going to bomb the shit out of him, boys. | ||
| So they send a bunch of bombers night after, day after night. | ||
| You're talking about hours and hours, like just relentless bombing. | ||
| And they did it to break the soul of the British people because they knew they couldn't just directly invade and they expected Britain to just be tired of getting bombed and hand over the reins. | ||
| But, you know, Churchill and a lot of these other guys were like, no, we're in this for the long haul. | ||
| The British people rallied together. | ||
| They were like, we will not submit. | ||
| And essentially, this was kind of like Hitler's, they eventually weathered the storm. | ||
| And this was Hitler's first blow because for an entire like, you know, five years, this guy was just steamrolling through Europe, taking what he wanted, snatching all the money, snatching whatever he wanted. | ||
| And Britain was like the first hit to his ego. | ||
| So with that being said, you know, he didn't take too kindly to that. | ||
| And so during that timeframe, he also did another fatal mistake. | ||
| And what he did, instead of just going with that peaceful treaty or, you know, the treaty that should have never happened with Russia, he decides, you know what? | ||
| I'm going to invade. | ||
| I'm going to invade these guys too. | ||
| Real smart. | ||
| I want your shit too. | ||
| Give it to me, boy. | ||
| So in 1941, Hitler does this big mistake of invading the Soviet Union. | ||
| He sends over 3 million troops across and stormed east of the land in search of like land and oil. | ||
| And the thing is, is he didn't just like strategically attack one location. | ||
| He like did this like crusade across like this wide amount across the eastern front of the or the western front of like of Russia and spread his troops thin. | ||
| And so by doing that, of course, Russia's like, okay, now we're going to war. | ||
| And so Stalin, he starts throwing everything that he has at him. | ||
| And so this brings Russia into the conflict, even though they backstabbed Britain and France. | ||
| But the enemy of my enemy is my friend, right? | ||
| That's how these situations go. | ||
| And, you know, before the war is over, dude, the Russians just treated their people like meat grinders, man. | ||
| 27 million Soviets died during it before the war was over. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To put that in context, guys, like you're talking like a third of the men, basically. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And that's you're talking about the major cities in the United States. | ||
| You have to add all the people up and just imagine all those people dying. | ||
| I'm trying to make a meta point to talk about where we're at now in the modern day. | ||
| You know, America, we like to beat our chest and talk about how we're the greatest and how we won all these wars, etc. | ||
| China fought the bulk of the Japanese. | ||
| We fought about 30% of them. | ||
| And then we lost, you know, 100,000 men during World War II. | ||
| These other nations, specifically Russia and China, they lost tens of millions of people. | ||
| So we have this attitude in the modern day where we're like, yeah, I mean, like, we could win a war against Russia. | ||
| We could win a war against China. | ||
| It's about how much punishment you can take during a war, ultimately. | ||
| And these places have cultures that were built really during World War II and even before that, where they're like, yeah, we're going to keep our national identity, even if we lose a third of our population. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And Stalin basically just brainwashed his whole society to just follow him blindly. | ||
| And he killed a lot of his own civilians as well as the military. | ||
| And he didn't care. | ||
| And one of the things is like now Germany's fighting a two-front war. | ||
| And so meanwhile, you know, the United States, we're like, we're going to stay neutral. | ||
| We took this stance of isolationism and not being involved in anything. | ||
| Yet we were still kind of funding and pulling, putting money towards the Allies, but we weren't committing troops. | ||
| And so during this time period, you know, all this stuff is still happening over in China and Japan's getting bold. | ||
| They're like, ah, we got it too. | ||
| And then they go and do the whole Pearl Harbor situation, which we'll do a breakdown at another time. | ||
| But essentially, everybody has a general idea of what happened during Pearl Harbor. | ||
| And this is what drags the United States into the war. | ||
| And so then now it really becomes an issue because now the Allied powers are now truly formed. | ||
| So when the United States gets involved, they decide, all right, we're going to do a Europe first strategy. | ||
| We're going to defeat Hitler before we focus on Japan. | ||
| We'll commit all of our troops to getting Europe under control because, you know, China can wait. | ||
| You know, we don't really care that much. | ||
| And they were small islands. | ||
| They were like, all right, let's focus on the bigger hand. | ||
| So let's go into the strategy that they did. | ||
| Essentially, they struck North Africa and Italy first. | ||
| They decided to go after that because Italy was aligned with Germany, of course, and Mussolini had control over certain areas, as well, as Germany had a lot of like. | ||
| There was a lot of conflicts in Africa as well, along that northern um, along the northern coast, and essentially what happened with all of that is the United States steps in, they take over those regions, they take over the Italy falls and um, that's really what happens during that time period. | ||
| Okay, now the thing that no one talks about is, while we're at war and we're now involved, Britain does something that no one expects. | ||
| Okay, so you know how Britain they, they colonize, their colonizers, they love to take over sets on the British Empire right, so we have this beautiful place called India, which has a lot of natural resources and they have a lot of uh, manpower they have. | ||
| They were able to control that place with 10,000 people, exactly right. | ||
| So we have this situation called the Bengal famine. | ||
| Now, everybody in India knows about this. | ||
| This is like their version of, like the holocaust in in, but so many words where essentially, you had three million, three million people in India that were starved in, that died, died of starvation, because of what Britain did. | ||
| So we're going to cue this clip up. | ||
| This is shocking, guys. | ||
| Pay attention. | ||
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These are images from 1943 when Bengal suffered one of the worst famines in the history of modern India. | |
| Up to 3 million people died of starvation and diseases aggravated by malnutrition and lack of health care. | ||
| But this disaster wasn't natural. | ||
| It was man-made. | ||
| caused by a heartless British administration whose wartime policies diverted food grains from India, leading to the catastrophe. | ||
| The Famine Inquiry Commission appointed by the government of India in 1944 to investigate the calamity concluded that the shortage in rice production was the major reason. | ||
| But was that really true? | ||
| Journalist Madhushimukherji in her book Churchill's Secret War, The British Empire and the Ravaging of India During World War II writes that the scarcity was caused by large-scale exports of food from India for use in the war theaters and consumption in Britain. | ||
| India exported more than 70,000 tons of rice between January and July 1943, even as the famine set in. | ||
| The British were so focused on the Second World War and feeding their army that they let shortages in India get out of hand. | ||
| Further, wartime inflation, speculative buying and panic hoarding diverted goods from an open market to the black market. | ||
| Prices skyrocketed and were beyond the reach of poor people. | ||
| Next, preferential distribution was given to workers in high-priority war industries to prevent them from leaving their positions, thus diverting supplies from calamity-struck villages. | ||
| Also, the British military ordered the removal or destruction of rural boats in anticipation of a Japanese invasion via the eastern Bengal border. | ||
| Fishermen were not only out of jobs, but this broke down the transport system for the movement of rice. | ||
| British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, though a war hero in Britain, has been severely criticized for his handling of the Bengal famine. | ||
| In fact, he was downright callous as he ignored the fervent pleas for relief measures required in India, saying it wasn't his responsibility. | ||
| What's more, his statements during the period were obnoxious and unforgivable. | ||
| His response to an urgent release of food stocks for India was, if food is so scarce, why hasn't Gandhi died yet? | ||
| And he believes that no aid would be sufficient as famine or no famine, Indians would breed like rabbits. | ||
| Talk about it, Rex. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's the same thing we see in the modern age as, you know, Palestinians aren't human. | ||
| They don't matter. | ||
| We don't care. | ||
| Ultimately, if we bomb them, they're still going to have kids. | ||
| They're still going to be there. | ||
| So why do we care, Hamas, Sama, Samas? | ||
| It's the same language that's always used during wartime. | ||
| In interest of, you know, advancing our own position and interest of serving our own population. | ||
| We don't care about the people over there. | ||
| They're not important. | ||
| We care about ourselves. | ||
| And this is how you breed long-lasting resentment with the population, right? | ||
| He's accurate. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| And the thing is, is Churchill in the history books, what I was taught was like Churchill is like a freaking saint. | ||
| He saved Britain. | ||
| He's the hero. | ||
| And then I don't even hear about this stuff where you had 3 million people. | ||
| 3 million people was more than what how many people Britain were being killed at that time. | ||
| This was just on a civilian level. | ||
| And so we forget about the fact that like, okay, we talk about the troop casualties, but really where most of the death comes from is like not just the soldiers, but the people on the ground. | ||
| They didn't lost 30 million people. | ||
| Over the course of all of World War II, the estimate of how many people were killed was 100 million people, guys. | ||
| 100 million people. | ||
| And I want you to understand that during this time period, 100 million people is about 5% of the entire global world. | ||
| 1 in 20 people. | ||
| Let that set in just from one man-made war where people were greedy. | ||
| It was all for self-interest. | ||
| It was even, you know, the cries of nationalism in places like Germany. | ||
| It was all about advancing people's pocketbooks. | ||
| That's what it's all about at the end of the day. | ||
| I mean, what else do we have to get into here? | ||
| The fall? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So now we're getting into the fall of the war. | ||
| We had, you know, in 1942 through 1943, you had Germany looked unstoppable at that time, but then they had overstretched. | ||
| And so they had pushed too far south towards Stalingrad. | ||
| And that battle came into a nightmare. | ||
| That was them fighting the Russians. | ||
| And so essentially, Hitler starts doing some crazy stuff. | ||
| Rather than withdraw, and it's winter time, instead of withdrawing from that, he decides, no, you guys need to stay in Stalingrad and fight this out, essentially. | ||
| And Stalingrad, it was like guerrilla warfare. | ||
| These people are in buildings shooting at each other like from 30 feet away. | ||
| And so you had 300,000 troops and only a few thousand people survived from the Nazi side. | ||
| And so what really caused the end of World War II was the decline of Hitler. | ||
| And it wasn't just from his strategic sense, but it was also his mental self. | ||
| We talked about him shooting himself, shooting his people up with, you know, methamphetamines, but he was the one that was. | ||
| He had a special doctor giving him vitamin injection. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So his doctor injected him daily with, you know, methamphetamines, opiates. | ||
| Testosterone as well. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's all hormones. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| And so essentially he started becoming paranoid. | ||
| He became sleepless. | ||
| He became erratic. | ||
| And he started firing his loyal generalists, his loyal generals, and trying to control everything himself and micromanage. | ||
| And so by doing this, his own officers started to lose faith in him. | ||
| They're like, this guy's nuts. | ||
| He's trying to get us. | ||
| He already just killed 300,000 people over here by telling them to stay in there, even though they had time to withdraw. | ||
| And so then there was, you know, they calculate there's like 15 assassination attempts that were attempted on Hitler's life during that time period. | ||
| But the biggest one was Operation Valkyrie. | ||
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Okay. | |
| During Operation Valkyrie, this is the one that really set the tone for what Hitler did next. | ||
| On July 20th in 1944, his colonel Klaus von Stauffenberg planted a bomb in Hitler's meeting. | ||
| It was in a briefcase that he brought in there. | ||
| And essentially, that bomb was, he was cued essentially to somebody called him and then he left. | ||
| And while they're in this meeting, this bomb explodes. | ||
| Somehow Hitler survives this bombing, but now he's like, oh, they just tried to kill me. | ||
| Now he really doesn't trust anybody. | ||
| And you know, historians, they estimate that if that bombing had succeeded, Germany might have surrendered several months earlier, saving four to five million people. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So now you had the fall of Berlin because Hitler is now no longer trusting anybody. | ||
| He's doing all types of stuff. | ||
| He's making wrong strategic moves. | ||
| And by 1945, Germany was surrounded. | ||
| The Soviets had stormed the East. | ||
| The Allies had advanced from the West. | ||
| They had already taken over France. | ||
| And by April 30th of 1945, Hitler and his wife, Eva, Eva, Eva Braun, they took their own lives in the bunker. | ||
| And then a week later, the Germans surrendered. | ||
| Now, that is the gist of everything. | ||
| Like I said, we're not going to dive too much more into it right now in this session. | ||
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Chill. | |
| We'll do more on the Japanese. | ||
| We'll do deeper sessions. | ||
| But this is enough for you guys to understand what happened and what you have to really pay attention. | ||
| And what I prioritized was the events leading up to the war. | ||
| And right. | ||
| And it's so similar to modern day, guys. | ||
| I mean, we have all these global intertwined financial interests. | ||
| We have, you know, various national interests of, oh, we're the good guys. | ||
| It's why we have to fight this war. | ||
| You see that with Israel, Iran. | ||
| You see that with Ukraine, Russia. | ||
| You see that even with America, Venezuela, sadly enough. | ||
| But at the end of the day, it's all about resources. | ||
| It's all about profit. | ||
| And it's all about making money. | ||
| It has absolutely nothing to do with the people. | ||
| And this is the thing. | ||
| We hold historical figures in high regard. | ||
| Usually they're all in on the game, right? | ||
| And that's how they get to positions of power. | ||
| And Hitler was useful. | ||
| You know, he's very useful for the British. | ||
| He was useful for them to make money and get rich. | ||
| Same with the Americans. | ||
| And that's why he was allowed to really treat Europe as his playground for a long period of time. | ||
| He was useful for the Russians too. | ||
| That's why they allied with him. | ||
| But at the end of the day, when it comes down to it all, it is all about that cash. | ||
| It's all about the gold. | ||
| It's all about the oil. | ||
| It's all about the resources. | ||
| And you look at a nation like Germany, Germany needed that oil. | ||
| That's why they ultimately failed. | ||
| They didn't have it and they couldn't get it from places like North Africa and Romania. | ||
| That fizzled out. | ||
| So they fizzled out. | ||
| But look, it's the same story, different book. | ||
| I mean, you talk about an area like they refused to withdraw. | ||
| They put the soldiers there that shades of Ukraine. | ||
| Little Zelensky does that all the time. | ||
| And like, we're getting to a point now where we're going to have that new world war. | ||
| And we don't know exactly how it'll start. | ||
| Me and Tim have different theories on how it will start, but it's coming. | ||
| And the general ignorance of the population is an absolute requirement for these things to happen. | ||
| It doesn't happen without the population at least being willing to not pay attention or just not knowing in general and then having a good enough story. | ||
| Hey, they bankrupted us. | ||
| Hey, they took our land. | ||
| Hey, they did XYZ. | ||
| And then to get our emoji back, kind of to right the wrong, we have to do it wrong ourselves. | ||
| And then like an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind ultimately. | ||
| And we've got to move past this general simulation we're in, guys. | ||
| I mean, this is, this is a phenomenal show and a phenomenal breakdown. | ||
| I really enjoyed this. | ||
| That's all I have for you guys as far as this segment. | ||
| Tonight or maybe tomorrow, I'll throw something out there for you guys to decide what we talk about next Sunday. | ||
| I would love to hear back from you guys. | ||
| Like I said, we take your suggestions very serious. | ||
| We like to talk about what you guys like to talk about. | ||
| So this is like a normal thing that we'll be doing going forward where, you know, we're going to dive into some history because the history is the fun part because that's where you really get to see the things that were hidden from us. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And people go, oh, I knew it all. | ||
| I knew it all already. | ||
| I don't need to hear about it. | ||
| Look, this show is about informing people. | ||
| This is about bringing people together and really to realize the meta level, the macro level argument, the big picture. | ||
| It's all a game and we should stop playing it. | ||
| So I just want to say in closing, please follow Truism Tim on X. Please follow Tim on X. | ||
| I would really appreciate it. | ||
| Truism Tim on X. Follow Truism Tim on X. Just do it. | ||
| He's a great guy and he's putting together these really informative segments for y'all. | ||
| And we're doing this for the viewers. | ||
| I know Tim would appreciate and like y'all's comments, likes, even DMs. | ||
| Just tell us what you want us to do. | ||
| We'll do it. | ||
| This show is about you guys, the viewers, the listeners, and it's about bringing you value and it's about making sure that we're doing a good job. | ||
| So we appreciate all the feedback we get. | ||
| We appreciate all the support and love we get, especially. | ||
| I mean, you guys, like Tim often says, we're going to remember our day ones. | ||
| We really appreciate y'all being here for us. | ||
| It's all about community. | ||
| It's all about growing together and it's all about realizing they want us to fight. | ||
| They want us to be in these bad situations. | ||
| They want us to feel like it's hopeless. | ||
| When you look at history, there's always really been an out. | ||
| We just don't take it because we're uninformed. | ||
| So thank you for being here with us tonight on the gray area. | ||
| Please like, follow, and subscribe to us on YouTube and Rumble. | ||
| We've got new episodes out there, a couple new ones. | ||
| One with Chase Geyser, phenomenal episode. | ||
| Yeah, we're going to have the Matt Baker interview. | ||
| We'll clip that separately as well as this current episode that we're doing in full length. | ||
| I mean, look, we're going to do even better interviews for you guys. | ||
| And the guests we're getting are already phenomenal. | ||
| They're already great. | ||
| Chase Geyser, Matt Baker. | ||
| I mean, these were two great conversations. | ||
| We both learned a lot about the people and a lot about why they do what they do and what they stand for and their background. | ||
| It really is incredible. | ||
| And just thank you again for being here with us tonight. | ||
| We really appreciate it. | ||
| We love and respect all of y'all. | ||
| We'll read a couple comments, but I just want to say in closing, please follow Truism Tim on X. | ||
| I really would appreciate it. | ||
| Follow him on X. He's going to be doing a lot of great stuff. | ||
| We're going to be doing a lot of great stuff together, but it really helps him put together these shows. | ||
| And you guys give him feedback and you let him know, hey, like, what do you want the next deep dive, the next deep research to be? | ||
| And I know there's segments of this, like we talked about, we're going to cover more World War II stuff. | ||
| Be like, oh, I wanted to hear about this topic. | ||
| I want to hear about that topic. | ||
| Follow Truism Tim on X. Comment under a post and you say, hey, Tim, I'd like to hear about this. | ||
| I really want y'all to tackle this topic, this issue. | ||
| Please follow Truism Tim on. | ||
| And because I'm so small, I don't have a lot of people that are bombarding me where I have to ignore it. | ||
| He's available. | ||
| I'm available. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, you're at the ground level of me. | ||
| I'm not from the media space. | ||
| I'm the new guy on the block. | ||
| I'm really trying to bring value to people at the end of the day. | ||
| And I enjoy interacting with you guys. | ||
| And I want to do that as long as possible. | ||
| But the engagement is important. | ||
| So that way I can, I need you guys to steer the boat a little bit too. | ||
| It can't just be us. | ||
| This is a group collaborative thing for us. | ||
| Yeah, help us grow. | ||
| We're going to grow with you. | ||
| We really appreciate y'all being here. | ||
| John Bound for a guest. | ||
| That's a great idea. | ||
| I'm going to read some comments. | ||
| So don't just go yet, guys. | ||
| Superb show. | ||
| Thanks, guys. | ||
| Good stuff, Tim. | ||
| A lot of great feedback for you. | ||
| Appreciate you guys. | ||
| Thank you, Dreamonology. | ||
| Thanks for the show. | ||
| A lot of people don't know past history. | ||
| I'm stuck in Los Angeles like a war zone in the valleys, all the gang violence. | ||
| Yeah, we should definitely, that's another topic. | ||
| Current gang violence, you know, especially big cities. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Yeah, we're going to keep doing World War II rabbit holes. | ||
| Got to wake regular people up. | ||
| America is cooked. | ||
| They're too busy caring about stupid crap or fighting over tribalism. | ||
| Absolutely correct. | ||
| Absolutely correct. | ||
| All of our early rocket tech came out of Germany after World War II. | ||
| Yeah, Project Paperclip. | ||
| We brought all those people over here. | ||
| Hey, you're a Nazi. | ||
| You're a great guy. | ||
| You just work for NASA at the end of the day. | ||
| History repeats. | ||
| Absolutely correct. | ||
| Yeah, Hitler may have gone to South America. | ||
| That's another theory. | ||
| Adolph was an animal on all that dope. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| All wars are banker wars. | ||
| This is true. | ||
| Read that one, Tim. | ||
| If Tim started talking jive with that hat and white t-shirt, I think I'd have a Vietnam flashback. | ||
| You do kind of look like a Vietnam soldier with the white shirt. | ||
| This helmet is supposed to be from the Pacific Front. | ||
| They used to wear this type of thing going on, but I love doing these costumes. | ||
| We're going to keep doing that. | ||
| I'm going to keep doing them for every history segment. | ||
| So the sun never sets on the British Empire because even God wouldn't turn his back on an Englishman. | ||
| That is an old saying and a very true saying. | ||
| We didn't step in Africa. | ||
| That was the British. | ||
| Yeah, we help with mechanical stuff. | ||
| That was the big thing is we like they said like like a uh like a German tiger tank was worth four Abrams, but the Americans had five. | ||
| This is a vague narrative about World War II. | ||
| We just kind of volumed them that they had the best tech. | ||
| That's 100%. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| This is not a real cigar. | ||
| Somebody asked. | ||
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All right. | |
| Well, thank you guys. | ||
| This is a wonderful stream. | ||
| Really appreciate y'all being here. | ||
| We'll do a paper clip. | ||
| We'll do MK Ultra. | ||
| We'll do all of that, guys. | ||
| Go ahead and repost the stuff. | ||
| I'm sure there's a lot of people that missed this stream and they need to get the value out of this. | ||
| So again, we appreciate you. | ||
| Give us a follow. | ||
| I enjoyed this. | ||
| Good night, guys. | ||
| Peace out. | ||
| We are blessed, guys. | ||
| Good to go. | ||
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