Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh dissect the "Diddy Doc," alleging Combs orchestrated Tupac's death with a $2M bounty, manipulated Biggie's schedule, and caused nine deaths at a 1996 party by underfunding security. They detail horrific abuse against Cassie, including non-consensual acts, while debating if his 50-month prison sentence reflects justice or a strategic PR move by Jay-Z. Ultimately, the hosts argue Diddy's career is effectively over despite potential political pardons, exposing how unchecked power and alleged sociopathy destroyed a music empire. [Automatically generated summary]
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Big Ant Shopping Chaos00:14:40
Yo, are we drinking or what?
It's all this.
We can't start, please.
You might have to get something, please.
Because Al is saying sentences with more than three words.
And once you get past three words, you don't know what's coming out.
I see Chris Santa.
Let's go.
Hold on to three sentences.
Hey, man.
But once you get into the multi-salamic, bro, you get fucked up.
You do get fucked up.
Fire, what you just said?
Oh, man.
Yeah, I was watching.
What is the guy?
Gene Deal.
Do you know who that is?
No.
He's like a Diddy guy.
I don't know.
He's like working with Diddy in the streets or some shit.
Okay.
I mean, was he on the doc?
No, you got cut out of the doc.
Or he couldn't make it work because of money.
But he did an interview where he's talking about it.
I mean, New Yorkers are all the same.
Because he was just trying to say what the director's name was and fucked it up 30 times.
What was it?
The director's name is Alice Stapleton.
No, it's Alexandria, right?
Whatever.
Yeah.
He couldn't even get close.
Literally.
He couldn't even get close, bro.
He was like, yeah, man, fucking, you know, Alice Staples.
What's her name?
And I kept on having to cut off trying to talk shit about this director.
That's a good question.
Is the gentleman you're talking about, black?
Black people make no effort with white names.
It's astonishing.
The amount of times when I would go up in hood shows that they would bring me up Adam Schwartz.
Don't y'all have enough Amosh?
I got a mosh play for weeks in a row.
I was saying Amash is good.
And not even sing.
Y'all give it up for Amash.
Shout out, Smokey.
You're still Ashkaze for a lot of black comics.
Yeah.
Wait, don't we have enough?
You have enough stuff.
Like, we can get your name wrong.
It's fine.
Yo, I hate this Marxist mentality that's that has seeped its way into the podcast.
Postmodern Marxism.
Yeah.
This is Marxism.
We're leftist now.
I'm not happy about this.
No, but Al and his Marxism.
Yeah, he's a fucking cultural Marxist.
You're a cultural Marxist.
Don't you have enough?
Yeah, dude.
Don't you have enough?
No.
Don't you have enough podcast studios?
How many podcast studios?
Don't you have enough fucking pockets on your band?
Yo, don't you have enough pockets, Al?
What is it enough?
What do you got?
What do you have more holding soon?
So I'm just letting y'all know.
I'm just letting y'all know.
Y'all keep on with me.
Y'all keep on with the jokes, all right?
Yo, can we just say, can we just announce on the podcast that Alex got a license to carry a concealed weapon?
Yes.
Let's go.
Consealed weapons.
Safe.
Concealed weapons.
I mean, the government thinks I'm safe.
All right.
So you can carry a...
When does that come in, actually?
He's not getting a good job.
They're still doing more background checks.
You have to write a letter for me.
Why is he?
Because he did like a good, he does like good, like best men speeches and all that type of stuff.
I think he's going to write a fire letter.
I'm not writing.
A recommendation.
I mean, you're going to write a letter?
You're going to need somebody.
I mean, he's going to get his.
You're going to shoot somebody, and then it's going to be partially my responsibility because I was, you know, the one who got you the gun.
There you go.
Now that's more streetcraft for you.
Do they know that you were arrested in Sweden?
Do they know that you were arrested in Sweden?
Do they know that you're arrested in Sweden?
They do not.
But do they know that you spent a month in jail in Sweden?
Do they know that you spent a month in jail in Sweden?
They just got a month of my shit.
No, it's not.
They have no clue that your name is.
There's no way that they could possibly know that.
You got to blurp.
Yeah, blurp that.
You could blurp two out of three times that I said his name is.
You got to blurp all that, bro.
So they're going to give you a fucking gun, nail polish and a gun.
Are you playing up the gay shit when you go in there?
Yo, big ant.
Yeah, big ant.
Oh, yo, big, yo.
Shout out, big ant.
Yo, we got big ant at my holy gang drill rapper, yo, big ant.
I'm not gay, so don't try me.
You're what?
I said, I'm not gay, so don't try me.
Why did you even say that right now?
We're not even talking.
We're not even scared a little bit.
You think he can take it?
He looks, you know, he's just sizing him up.
You know what his nickname for you is?
No.
Food bank.
Big Ant is hungry.
Shout out to the food banker, New York.
Shout out to Food Bank, NYC, but real big ant.
We need you to pull up on a pod.
Get a clip of Big Ant up.
We need to watch that one from Patreon because Big Ant's really did.
That one right there.
New Yorker the week.
New Yorker the week goes to Big Ant.
Yep.
Like, lock, lock, boom.
Big Ant the first New York City gay trail rapper.
Lock, lap, boom, boom.
I'm always valid in any streets like walking.
You heard what they said.
I'm out of time, man.
I'm muddy.
Like, what that means.
That's how he is.
Like, that's that's that's my nigga.
Like, what's up?
Okay, this is a nigga.
It's hilarious.
I got the creative in my purse, British.
Fuck with me.
You better duck, bitch.
What the heck?
He got his fire.
I lived in the car for life.
I'm a drill rapper.
I'm a snot.
I love this guy, dude.
Big ant.
Niggas think I'm valid in the streets.
See, and then they turn that off.
Yup.
Yeah, now you know how we feel.
The fuck?
No.
Now we know how we feel.
Yeah, what you mean by that?
Yeah, what did you mean by that?
What did you mean?
You said it.
Because you're white and sold by.
That was the right thing to do.
Well, you never been talking to a black guy and you get scared really fast.
No, I was scared that Alex is wearing his pants right now.
I want to know how he got them.
I want to know that you and Big Ant got the exact same bottoms on.
I want to know if you've been going off.
You've been drinking a little bit.
Big Ant gets swaggy.
Big Ant take you shopping, be honest.
Yo, did he take you to shopping?
Did he take you shopping or not?
You can't say it.
Is he on your Pinterest, though?
I took Big Ant shop.
Yeah, right.
Come on, man.
Yeah, right.
I'm going to bet his seller.
For free.
Look at Big Ant.
Come on now.
Fly.
Nah, Big Ant will take you shopping, bro.
Get what you want, boo.
He'll take you to Zara.
Get what you want.
Nah, don't do that because don't do what?
Fuck.
He or she.
That's Big Ann, bro.
Big Ann.
It's a he, and he'll clap your cheeks and spit on your back.
Do you want to get your back spit on?
No, but you know how big that's going to be.
Big Ant.
We got to clap your cheeks, spit on your back.
Rest his Glock on your head.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Yo, look at Big Ant, bro.
A superstar is born.
Glocky.
Truly, dude.
Truly.
Superstar is born.
Glocky boots.
Is that what Big Ann said?
Yo, New York of the Week.
That's a good one.
That's New York of the Week.
100%.
Big Ant.
Listen, also, New Yorker of the Week, Diddy.
Because this shit was phenomenal.
How many episodes have y'all seen?
I saw the whole shit.
You saw the whole shit?
Yeah, four down, four down.
Okay.
We all saw it.
Holy moly.
Yeah.
It's funny how this motherfucker in the group chat.
Everybody, make sure you watch the Diddy shit.
How many episodes you watch?
I watched all four of them.
No, you didn't.
Why you lying?
Did you?
This motherfucker seen one episode.
No.
It's motherfucker.
What I say in the group chat, I said, make sure y'all seen at least one episode.
This shit is amazing.
I think you said that.
Then he said, actually, watch two.
You know what?
Maybe you watched three.
Who's not going to watch four?
Did I say maybe watch three?
I got a child.
Okay, I got a child.
Mark's in Chicago.
Amanda is children.
He's in Chicago.
That's right.
Big Ant.
Clapping cheeks, spitting on your back.
Okay?
Oh, my God.
So you watched one episode?
Yeah.
I watched one episode.
What's wrong with that?
Why are we shaming me for watching one episode?
He lives in New York.
He's from the streets.
He knows what happens.
I'm here.
You sent a mandate.
You know how rarely he sends mandates on pod?
Everybody watched three episodes.
Everyone on the couch.
Yo, why are you separating the couch?
Why are you separating the couches?
I'm not saying separated couch.
What is happening?
You say everyone on the couch will watch at least one episode.
Oh, just because you got a chair.
I'm trying to get rid of the couch.
I'm trying to get rid of the couch.
No, I'm trying to get rid of the chair.
I mean, I'm trying to get rid of the chair.
I am trying to get rid of the chair.
This should be on couches only.
Yo, dude.
Joy to couches.
Yeah, I've been asking for couches for three fucking weeks.
How many people are going to ask for a goddamn couch?
Can we get back to this, though?
Have you guys ever watched anything I've asked in the history of this podcast?
The first time you do it is with Diddy.
You told us to watch.
I should have been doing that in the past.
I should have been doing that.
Oh, God, we missed Yellowstone.
Oh, I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
The fucking cultural phenomenon of Karen Costner as a cowboy.
That shit didn't slap the way you thought it was.
What, Yellowstone?
No, I don't hear anybody talking about that.
You gave up on it.
What are you talking about?
Who gave up on it?
Who gave up on it?
I've watched all the other things from Yellowstone World.
I watched 1923.
I watched 1948.
I've watched all the Yellowstones.
I don't even know what that is.
Yes.
The Yellowstone world is, you know, the Dutton Ranch has existed before our time.
And I found the story of how it came to be.
You watched one episode of that shit too?
I watched.
Yeah.
No, I watched.
I cleared through those seasons.
I'm just going back on Stranger Things right now, but back to Diddy.
Stop trying to get off the fucking topic.
Yeah, why are you trying to watch it?
Why are y'all trying to cover anybody getting off like Diddy?
You guys watched the entire thing.
You guys are both on flights across the country.
Yeah, exactly.
So you have no excuse.
Okay.
You, you watch it?
Yeah, I was sick.
So I had something to watch.
All right, do you guys want to discuss it or do you want to discuss how many episodes we watched?
What do you guys think would be the most interesting content for our listeners?
Is how many episodes each of us watch or discussing the actual documentary?
The worldwide sensation is number one in 32 countries, according to 50 Cent, who texted me.
How long did it take you to get through the full session?
What do you mean?
No, I'm just saying.
But we were still talking about it.
Oh, my.
Yo, Al.
From the top, from the top, from the top.
I'll bail.
All right, all right.
Don't even bail him out.
I know.
We need sound effects.
Joey, right there.
I needed to know.
I know.
I needed to know how many episodes you think it would take, Joey, to find one sound effect.
You know what I'm saying?
We're not going to get another couch.
I'm going to ask for another couch for a month.
There we go.
You don't even know what that was.
Real talk, he's been asking for couch since pre-Australia.
Since pre-Australia, right?
Son, seasons ago.
I've been asking for internet for the last two months.
We finally had internet.
There was a woman in a Hillary Clinton suit walking around here.
I was like, the internet is about to get worse.
There's no way in hell that this lady knows how to put the fucking internet in there.
That was the Wi-Fi lady?
The Wi-Fi lady.
She was just hacking emails.
No way.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, it was very interesting.
Anyway, so documentary.
I mean, there's so many things I did not know.
What?
Like what?
Well, the city college thing, I had no idea about.
Oh, yeah.
I had no clue about that.
I'll be honest.
I didn't know about that either.
I knew about that.
I didn't know nine people died.
I had a huge house.
I thought people just got hurt.
I didn't have a clue about the city college thing.
Why are we making a big deal over the shine murder?
Well, that's also bad.
That's just one.
Because Shine was awesome.
That's why Shine College.
You were talking about the shooting.
Yeah, Sean got took the fall for it.
That was also more directly Diddy's involvement than the City College thing, allegedly.
I also don't know what is true and what's not.
So I'm just going to throw a million allegedly out.
What's that?
Did you guys see how many allegedly Netflix put out?
Every time there was a statement about Diddy, it went to black screen and then writing.
Beginning and end of every episode.
Same thing.
Throughout.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't even know what to do.
That's what every episode means.
I don't even know what you think I meant when I said every episode.
We're talking about two different things.
Yeah.
You're talking about how Netflix says, hey, we asked for a comment.
And you're talking about at the end in the beginning of every episode, they said he got convicted.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you fucking dumb idiot.
Okay.
Oh, wow.
Oh, yeah.
Al, just relax, man.
Al, this is too much.
That's too much for your brain, Al.
Al, your brain can't do too many things at once.
Yo, your nail polish present shit looks crazy, dude.
It looks crazy.
Chilly spin coming out of nail polish.
Come on.
All right.
Back to City College.
Okay.
It's fun, though.
I can get it where it happens.
Give me the other one, Mark.
Yeah.
Give me the other one.
There you go.
What happened at City College?
Did you not watch any of the fucking episodes?
No.
No, what are your thoughts on it?
Because you said that was the crazy thing.
I was trying to do it.
I'm trying to give clarity to listeners who might not have also watched.
Oh, okay.
Sorry, this is a little disorganized here.
Mark brought a toy.
People still.
Yeah, I know.
This is a good thing now.
We're not sure how to do this podcast with this toy.
Listeners have no idea there's a toy in the room, and people who didn't watch the doc don't know what the fuck City College drew.
Sorry, Ario.
Listen, nah, my bad.
Mark really brought a fire toy.
All right, so Diddy started as a party guy.
He would promote parties.
And then him and Heavy D, who was the biggest rapper maybe in the country at the time, definitely in New York, had a power throw.
Had a rapper, like a musician basketball game at City College in Harlem.
Yeah.
And then they were filled up.
They had at capacity was like $12 to get in, but so many people tried to bum rush the doors and they didn't realize the doors don't open out.
You can't bum rush the doors.
That's why crowd crushed, nine people died.
And then I guess I didn't.
Did he was like 19?
I'm trying to understand why this is Diddy's fault, I guess, for not hiring enough security.
Yeah.
And is like, do you blame him for that?
Or do you blame the people that are pushing into an event that they don't even have tickets for that crushed the other human beings right in front of him?
I think they also said he overbooked.
That was the allegation.
He sold more tickets than he should have.
That's what the allegation was.
Well, if you could prove that by more than 2,000.
Oh, then that's definitely a problem.
Only $500 spent on crowd control.
Also, this is the first time.
I think they say, like, this is the first time you see him get away with some shit and just kind of deflect on the narrative and be like, I'm a positive black man trying to do positive things and they're trying to bring me down, which is kind of his go-to narrative.
Anytime he got in trouble.
I mean, he was doing positive things for the neighborhood.
Yeah, but he would hide behind that.
He'd use that as a shield.
Like, what's his name?
Like, Pablo Escobar did charity.
He still was a drug kingpin can work.
But at this time, he didn't do anything negative.
No, but this is the first time.
I think they look at that as like, oh, that's when he realized, oh, I can get away with something.
Yeah.
I mean, at the end of the first episode, there's a great thing about like his envy of Tupac.
Yeah.
And I forget exactly which character is saying it, but he's basically saying, he's like, here's the thing with Diddy.
Pac, Drake, and Diddy's Envy00:06:45
It's like, Diddy is a marketer, which at its core is a manipulator.
And he has a resentment for talented people because people like them without manipulation.
And this idea that like Diddy really treated everybody that was around him as his like wife and to have that relationship with Biggie where he's envious of Tupac because Biggie and Tupac are connecting.
Obviously, they're going to connect more.
They're both artists.
They're both great at rapping.
This is the thing that they've dedicated their lives to.
Like, why would Biggie look up to Diddy over Tupac?
It makes no fucking sense, right?
So, but him being so envious and so protective and maybe looking at this massive investment that he just made potentially leaving him for so many respects more.
And he was trying to sign Pac and Pac was not with it.
Oh, yeah, obviously.
Tupac was also putting Biggie on game in terms of the music business, how it operates, and he should restructure his contract.
So that also was another piece of the puzzle that got Diddy upset.
Is that about two?
Yeah, I'm not even lying.
Episode two, they really make it seem like Diddy's the reason both of them died.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And again, documentaries, they have their slant you can edit, but like they make that shit seem fairly strong.
I will say this.
I don't think, I don't know, I don't think, I don't think Diddy was involved in Tupac's death.
I think it was a little bit more simple.
It's like Tupac snuffed the, let me just get it out.
Tupac fights a high-ranking Crip, high-ranking Crip, sends some guys to go kill Tupac.
So what they say is that guy was a Southside Crip who was affiliated with Diddy.
Diddy got cool with the Southside Crips with somebody high up.
And then that guy had robbed one of Pac's people, I think, right?
And then Pac's boy that got robbed is like, yo, that's a motherfucker that robbed me.
So Pac just goes, gets his get back.
But they're like, oh, this is the opportunity.
And then we can use this and what's fucked up, man.
And weeks before that.
So Keefe D allegedly says that he had a conversation with Diddy and there was either a $2 million bounty on Pac and Shook.
Diddy said, I'll pay a million dollars you kill Pocket Shook.
So if you know that hit is on the street already and now he just started a fight with your guy, it's like, oh, this is perfect.
We can get our get back and get paid.
Imagine if there wasn't the incentive of making money.
It was just taking it to that far.
It was a brutal scene, man.
They say it.
They shot him.
Then they just pulled off, watched the amber lamps pull up.
And it was just like a fucking brutal scene, man.
It was brutal.
Like, it's just heartless.
And then apparently they stood there the whole time.
Yeah, they just watched it.
Ki V D says, allegedly, like after the shooting, they was like, yeah, we just stood and watched the ambulance take him out.
Well, ambulance, but yeah.
So you think Diddy was involved?
Yes.
You think he was involved in Biggie's death too?
His involvement in retaliation.
Death is more so ego.
He's like wanting to show that, hey, we're not scared.
So Biggie was supposed to fly out to London to shoot some shit.
They were going to do European press.
The first time the bad boy artist was doing European press, Biggie was hype.
Biggie didn't want to be in Cali, but Diddy was so upset by hit him up, so upset by Shook taking shots at him.
He was like, no, we're going to go there.
I'm going to make you do press.
And then the day Biggie's supposed to fly out, Biggie wants the fuck out of Cali.
He's like, this isn't safe for me.
Everybody's told me I shouldn't be here.
Diddy tells the guy that says number two that he eventually squeezes out of the company, his childhood friend, he goes, yo, Biggie's not going to LA or to London.
He's going to this party with me.
Staying in LA another day.
Diddy thought it was important to say, fuck you to them and throw a party in LA, fuck you to death row.
We're going to throw a party in enemy territory.
And that's the party where Biggie gets got.
So not like he ordered the hit, but because he just wanted to show that he wasn't afraid to be in the West.
He wasn't pussy.
Yeah.
That's what got Biggie murdered.
And then retaliation, obviously, for the Pac shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why retaliation for the Pac shit?
Well, people killed Biggie for retaliation for Pac because they thought Biggie and Puff were behind us.
God, it got it kind of crazy.
And Pac thought Biggie and Puff or Biggie and Puff were behind the first shooting, especially Puff.
Yeah.
The first time he got shot.
That's where the old riff started.
Yeah.
Do you remember when they died?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
That's crazy.
Like, can you put it on a scale?
Like, is it the, like, obviously rap is different now, but like, I'm trying to wrap my head around the moment.
Is it the equivalent of like the biggest rappers in America now getting killed?
Abraham Lincoln getting shot.
That's the only thing I would compare.
Drake Kendrick.
The amount of highlight that was on that, it was really.
But like tragedy.
And anger.
I would say way more.
No, I don't think.
Like, no, Drake Kendrick is different.
Drake Kendrick was like excitement around it.
There were people like, oh, we got a beef.
Here we go.
This was shock.
Yeah.
This was like sadness.
This was like, you couldn't believe it.
Like, I remember we were, I was in middle school, so you must have been really young, huh?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
You were probably in like third grade or something like that.
But I still remember.
But it was just like, yeah, you just couldn't believe that this was real.
Also, at the end of the day, we're like kids and like, we're like derivative from the street, right?
Yeah, like, yeah, we're in New York and we see things happen, but it's not really nothing really is going to come of it, right?
These guys are on MTV with Carson Daly.
We got painted nails.
Yeah, like it's not, it's not real.
Tubox in fucking movies that we will go watch.
It's not real.
Yeah.
And then I'm like, we would be playing around and be like, oh, West Coast, East Coast, like just fighting with one another type of shit.
Like, yeah, it was a joke to us.
Right.
It was wrestling.
Yeah.
It was wrestling.
And it was cool to have an like, you had like an identity in it as a kid.
It's crazy how like people get wrapped up in the cult.
But like, just because we're from New York, we're like, man, fuck Tupac.
He von Hennessy with enemy every song.
You know what I mean?
Like, we're just finding these reasons not to like Tupac.
But like, I like Tupac.
I thought the music was great.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, it was, it was very, it was a weird time, man.
And again, edits are edits, but they really put this shit on Biggie.
I mean, on Diddy.
Like, Diddy was the guy, was the catalyst for this whole thing and poured a lot of gas on everything.
And Mayor May allegedly put a hit out on Pac and Shuge.
And then he only paid $500,000 because he's like, well, you only killed Pop.
That's far.
I mean, it's tragic, obviously, but like, this guy's so, such a lunatic that he would do something like that.
Like, what I thought was crazy about it was the, I never knew that he, I knew he was from Mount Vernon, but I never knew that like his dad was a hustler.
Yeah.
So I never knew that.
And like, proud of that shit.
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Yeah.
You know, but it's kind of, and who got like killed.
But the way that they frame it, that he was trying to be this hustler, because I've spoken to other people who remain nameless.
Whenever they've talked about him, they've always said this about Diddy.
Like, he's always kept like one foot in the streets.
And I go, what do you mean by that?
Like, what are you talking about?
He's like, yeah, like, he's always, he's still connected with the street shit.
And I'm like, I thought this guy's from like Mount Vernon.
Like, I never connected him with streets at all.
Right.
And, but seeing that that was the aspiration and like seeing everything as a function of power, like him trying to fuck the hottest rapper's girl, it's not even because he likes a girl.
No.
It's just, it's this, this expression of power.
Yeah.
I fuck the hottest rapper's girl.
Yeah.
I'm that powerful.
And I think that's why he was doing the gay shit.
Like sex just became a function of power.
Yeah.
So it's like, what is more powerful than just fucking a dude?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's true.
I don't even know if that sentence makes that at all.
No, no, no, no.
What is a greater expression?
What is a greater expression of how powerful you are?
A straight guy.
Right.
So he's willing to fuck you.
Yeah.
Simply because what you have spit on your back.
Well, also a lot of times what one guy was saying in the last episode is like, he'll drug you without you even realizing it.
Right.
And you'll just wake up and be like, what's going on?
I'm sore.
What the fuck happened?
And it's just like, I think there's also, you hear this with sexual assault rape type shit.
There's power dynamics involved in that.
I would say that too, if I was a guy who got fucked by dude, I would say I got drugged too.
Guys, I have a live stand-up show announced.
Great Outdoors Comedy Festival in Halifax.
I've never even toured in Halifax and I'm coming out there.
We got Mark Gagnon coming with me.
Cam Patterson is coming.
Lucas Zelnick is coming.
We're going to put a hell of a fucking show on out there in Halifax, Nova Scotia.
The pre-sale is tomorrow.
The code is Andrew.
It's going to be August 8th.
That's the show.
Halifax, you guys already know.
We're coming through and we're going to light that shit on fire.
I cannot wait to see you guys there, August in Nova Scotia, as we all dreamed it.
Also, Rhode Island Comedy Festival coming there March 28th.
You can get tickets for all these things at theandrewschultz.com.
Peace.
Guys, I am done touring for the year 2025.
Thank you guys so much.
This is the biggest year we've ever had.
Next year, gonna be even bigger.
I'm so fucking excited.
We start off.
It's gonna be a lot of shows.
Maybe too many.
I might kill myself.
So we're trying to still work out some schedule stuff.
But January 8th through 10th, I'm in Pittsburgh.
January 15th through 17th.
I'm in Phoenix, Arizona.
January 23rd, my favorite theater I've ever done.
The only theater I've ever done until after this, but I'm at the Wilbur.
Tickets are almost sold out for that show.
So hurry up and buy.
We added a show in Seattle.
It's a Neptune Theater January 30th.
January 31st, Revolution Hall in Portland.
February, we're going to New Zealand and Australia.
I cannot wait.
We've added some shows there.
And then obviously, Radio City, keep buying tickets.
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That's April 18th, Chicago Theater.
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Thank you guys.
What's up, people?
Mark Yagnon here.
Just want to say thank you to everyone in Chicago that came out to the shows.
It was fantastic.
The amount of people that asked to suck my dick is getting out of hand.
Literally, just dudes coming up to me being like, hey, dude, our gosh said I had to say, I'm like, no, This is not that kind of meet and greet.
All right.
Just come out, take a pick, sing what's up.
People have asked me why I keep trying to get in the second dick.
It's become very confusing.
You don't have to do that.
All right.
All you got to do is buy a ticket, come to the show, and I'm going to Hoboken on December 12th.
I'm also doing my monthly show in the East Village at Maryloo on December 16th.
It's the best lineup in the city.
All the best comics.
I'll be there working out some new stuff.
And then at the new year, Salt Lake City.
And then also, where are you doing at Salt Lake City?
Wise Guys.
Fun club, dude.
Go see them.
And then Washington, D.C., and then Charlotte, North Carolina.
Those are going to be announced any minute now.
All right.
You're on the edge of your seats.
I know you are, man.
We said that last week, dog.
Just wait.
Any minute now.
It's coming.
Thank you guys so much.
See you there.
That's the thing that, like, this generation that's watching right now, they don't understand it because the young people grew up with Spotify artists and TikTok artists and like pro tools and you make your own beat and you just put it out.
You couldn't even record anything without a professional studio back in the day.
Consider that.
You couldn't even speak into a microphone and record it with a beat without a studio.
Yeah.
So having they had so much power, so much access to people's dreams.
And I think that Diddy's like lust for power is the reason why he didn't try to be a he eventually was an artist a little bit, but initially, remember they show him dancing and he was trying to be a dancer and he was in the music videos and then he pivots.
He makes this hard pivot to be like Andre Harrell's side guy, like his right-hand man.
And to me, what that says is, is Diddy has this like undying thirst for power.
And he goes, ooh, the power is actually there.
It's not in the artists.
These artists don't have control when they put an album, when they get studio time, what time songs they get when they go on tour.
It's that guy over there that tells them what to do.
And they're all kissing that motherfucker's ass.
Fuck dancing in the videos.
I want to be that guy.
But this is where the power never stops when he's insatiable.
Then it seems like he gets jealous of the artists.
Now I want to be the AR guy.
I want to have all.
And I want to be the biggest artist.
And I have all these people write raps for me.
And I'm going to make sure my artists never get bigger than me on my songs.
Dog, there was a thing.
I think this was after Biggie died.
You know, Puffy Sands, my brother's my best friend.
He tells the number two at his company, Biggie's supposed to get a Rolling Stone cover.
He says, No, fuck that.
I need to promote the No Way Out album.
So I'm getting Rolling Stone.
Make sure they put me on the cover.
Box Biggie out after his death of a Rolling Stone cover.
And then he took it.
That's fucked up.
And then made Biggie pay for the funeral.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
I heard that one.
That's that's fucking crazy.
Dog, he would he would charge you for, like, he would take money out of your deal for recording time in his studio.
So he would just find a way to never pay anybody.
That's what they all do, though.
Yeah, that's the point.
But like, he would appear in the music video and then pay himself a talent fee for being in the video.
So, so here's something to that.
Here's something to that.
What there's that line that's like that happened.
I think it was at the Source Awards or something like that.
I don't know if it was come to death.
If you don't want your producer all up in the video, etc.
Diddy was bigger than his artists.
You want him in the video.
Not at that point.
He wasn't bigger than Biggie in 95.
Yeah.
He wasn't.
He wasn't bigger than Craig Mac, flavoring your ear.
You think?
It's hard to think, but try to go back.
Like, if Diddy wasn't next to Biggie, he biggie would have still been that guy.
He had so much swag to.
Puffy might have marketed Biggie better.
Yeah.
But seeing Puffy in a video didn't mean shit.
Yeah.
Let me clarify.
At a certain point in time, like when Puffy first breaks off and does Bad Boy, nobody knows who Biggie is.
Puffy puts Biggie on.
Right?
So like he is effectively a much more powerful person in the industry and much more known person in the industry.
So him co-signing Biggie is massive for Biggie.
So being all up in the video.
I don't know about that.
One point.
But no, hold on.
How come anybody know who he got fired from Uptown Records at that point?
Yeah.
And Andre Harrell said, I'll let you keep Biggie.
Yeah.
Which is a massive gift.
But he got fired from he was the king.
He was Andre Harrell's a kingmaker.
He's the number two.
Then he gets fired and he got one artist.
So I don't think he's got heat like that.
No, He had the parties.
This is where I think a lot of people don't realize.
Like Andre Harrell was selling lifestyle.
That was what Uptown was doing.
And then Diddy did that better than anybody, right?
And it was Diddy presents this.
So he owned the culture.
And owning the culture is how you can break artists.
It's how you can control it.
It's another power flex.
Like, I can't get if you piss off Diddy, you're not going to be able to go to his parties.
And that's where everybody goes, et cetera.
Yeah.
So like when he broke off from Uptown, what he didn't have is the funding of Uptown.
But what he still had is the culture and the cachet.
And then when he connects with who is it, Clive Davis?
Clive Davis.
So he connects to Clive Davis.
Now all of a sudden he has the money.
So he already has the culture.
He has the parties.
He has the places people want to be.
He has the places to break the records to the people who are going to listen to them.
Why does he need Andre?
And clearly he doesn't because he takes Biggie and they go fucking crazy.
Yeah, he got Clive after Andre Feiden.
But yeah, I see your point.
I still think to most record-buying audience, which is kids in suburbs like me, Biggie was a guy you knew of.
I didn't know who the fuck Puff Daddy was until I don't even think they were the ones buying the records initially.
I think suburban lights buying records comes later.
I think it's when it's like completely MTVified, when the EOM TV raps like really kind of takes over.
I think initially, I don't think like, I don't think hip-hop was that big.
I think NWA makes it fucking explode.
It's like loud, it's rebellious.
But like before that, kind of niche, it was this like new, like weird type of music that like white people were like.
That's fair, but this is six, seven years after NWA.
So rap is out there.
And it may be not gangster rap, but rap is a thing.
No, no, of course, of course, rap is a thing.
There's no question.
But it's not what we know it as now.
Does Diddy have to charge to pay to be in his own artist video?
I guess that's the thing where it's like, I don't think you should, but what all these fucking, I mean, how these labels make money is they do this kind of like Don King type shit where like you get charged for every single fucking towel.
I think the thing also is, and you just see this.
This is where the editing is like, okay, it could be edited, but the recurring themes of a lot of this, everybody's like, I didn't get the money from Diddy.
Yeah.
I was supposed to have 25% of bad boy.
He shows up with a bet and says, hey, man, I need you to sign this over.
I'll give it back to you.
I just need to do this deal.
Never gives it back.
That guy, that producer, Ali, I'll pay $250,000.
And then they play voicemails of him being like, yo, man, I'm going to get it to you.
I just got to handle this thing.
Hey, man, some shit came up.
Hey, man.
And then when the guy gets mad, he's like, I don't like your energy, dude.
Why are you acting like this?
I mean, yeah, the tricky, yeah, the tricky thing is that, like, once you know you can fuck people over and you're like a maniacal sociopath like him that's just power hungry, you just go, all right, I just won't pay you.
And I think that's the point they try to make with City College, whether it's true or not, is this is when the sociopath realizes I can get away with anything.
Nine people died and I come out looking good.
Yeah.
Oh, he gets more famous.
Yeah.
I got more famous.
I'm a guy now.
Yeah.
Now I can do whatever I want.
That's the thing that I think this generation really doesn't understand.
And I think it's like, I don't think they really understand how important the gatekeepers were to the music industry.
And even after he left Uptown, he was massively powerful.
Massively powerful.
Because think of the artist that he broke.
Like he breaks Mary J. Blotch.
Tim's Brilliant Sociopathic Lies00:09:32
Right?
Like he breaks Jodic.
Jodicy.
Yeah.
So all these other people.
Mace.
What's that?
112, Mace.
But did those come with Bad Boy?
I think they're later, right?
Yes, later.
Yeah, but it's still him breakfast.
But of course, Uptown, he's still a guy.
I'm not used to it.
Just because he's not attached to Uptown doesn't mean he's not massively powerful, right?
Because at that moment, the only two ways, and they say in the documentary, the only two ways you can make like legacy money in hip-hop is through Russell Simmons or Andre Harrell.
Think about that level of power.
What if the only way to get on TV was between two channels?
Yeah.
Think about how much power those two people are.
Yeah, exactly.
Which is getting back to what it used to be because MTV and BET was that was it.
Yeah.
If you wanted to see music, you had to turn on one of those two channels.
You're 100% right.
There was no YouTube.
There was nothing.
And we would flip back and forth from what is it?
TRL.
And then 106 in part.
Yeah.
And we would watch 30 seconds of a music video.
Hit me, baby, one more time to make it fit the half-hour segment, whatever it was.
We couldn't even watch the whole music.
Wow.
And we were complaining then about attention spans being too short.
No, there's, there's, there's this guy named like Douglas.
How do you write The Hitchhiker's Guide?
I forget.
Oh, yeah.
Anyway, there was something in it that he said, like the different stages of life.
I'm going to fuck this up.
Maybe you can bring this up.
But because I was doing just some kind of like reflection on what's happening in culture.
And I'm like, what the hell is going on?
It was so normal back in the day.
And things are so extreme and crazy right now.
And he had said that this is the life cycle.
It's like when you're young, you're not really paying attention to things around you.
You get into like your 20s and early 30s and you're like, this is how things should be.
This is perfect.
There's all the opportunity.
Then you get in your 40s and you go, things were so much better back in the day.
These things are so crazy right now.
Because you were a part of the change.
Yes.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Now, ours is maybe the most drastic in history because we live pre-internet and post-internet.
Yeah.
Pre-I-AI, post-AI.
It's insane.
Like, especially our age, because old people live pre-internet and with internet, but they don't really use the internet.
Yeah.
They just have like bigger fonts on their phones.
Right?
Like, that's it.
That's an old people's change.
Yeah.
But we actually use it and will actually kind of use AI, we'll admit, but like our generation is fun.
It's like Stone Age.
Right?
It's crazy what we and kind of, yes, things are crazy on the internet.
And yes, we see all this kind of wild stuff and conspiracy, everything.
We're handling it pretty fucking well.
All things considered, for how in important caveat, but you can make a video online with all of us having an orgy with each other that is indistinguishable from your regular life.
Nah.
No, but think about that.
Don't put me in that.
I know.
We just brilliant idiots and call them gay for like an hour.
But the baby oil.
The baby oil.
But yeah, I don't know.
I'm handling it okay.
And it's too easy to do that.
Now one of the fans is going to actually make the OG video.
Yo, run it.
Run it.
Top me.
Top me.
I saw an article that watching fucked up videos online can actually give you PTSD.
Hold on one second.
I've come with a set of rules to describe our reactions to technology.
Anything is the world when you were born is normal and ordinary and is just natural.
Natural part of the way the world works.
Anything that is invented between when you're 15 and 35 is new and exciting and revolutionary, and you can probably get a career in it.
Anything invented after 35 is against the natural order of things.
I mean, tell me that isn't.
Yeah, it's brilliant.
Yeah.
Brilliant.
I'm shocked that you let him get through that whole quote without calling him gay or something.
That was like really respectful.
Well, you'd be calling Douglas.
Yeah.
You know, it's what Douglas said.
Yeah, I ain't gonna put that on Big Doug.
You know what I mean?
Big Doug.
You put work in the shit.
No, I'm getting to that point.
I can feel it.
I'll listen to a new song.
I'm like, that sucks.
Like, it's just getting closer every year.
Dude, I said it's nigga.
You're 19.
Like, he's old.
Are you 30 yet?
How old are you?
I don't know.
He's not even 30.
I'll be 30 in a few months.
You're 29 years old.
29, bro.
Hey, right side and 20.
You ain't aging good.
Damn.
I'm sorry, but you not, man.
I think I'm going to look like this for a while.
I think I'm pickled.
29 and you're wearing a beanie inside.
What does that mean?
Al's wearing one too.
Fuck that.
No, Al needs it.
I get this.
Oh, fuck you.
Fuck everybody.
Al looks like Tim can't swim in a pool.
Let's go.
Let's go.
I get it.
Nobody knows.
You know who Tim Poole is?
You got to explain it.
You just got so defensive a joke was coming at you.
You don't get that to him.
You try to talk about that.
Do you know who Tim Pool is?
I do know who Tim Pool.
Okay, there we go.
But you had to explain it.
I did have to explain it.
Come on.
I did have to explain it.
I agree with you on that.
A lot of words.
But it was a lot of words.
It was a lot of words.
So many words.
So many words.
Can you get back to Diddy, dude?
Well, yeah, was there anything that surprised you guys in the day?
I thought it was going to be more gay stuff.
Talk to me.
It was very little gay stuff.
Yeah, because you don't really know Diddy.
I don't know nothing.
Yeah.
Anyone's like Diddy's the Diddy's Epstein.
And I was like, dude, this is going to be fucking crazy.
And then they were like, well, you're like, you know, probably kill some people and beat some women.
And I was like, yeah, all right.
But this is the thing.
No guy wants to talk about getting butt-fucked.
So it's like.
One guy did, and Andrew was like, nah, he's alright.
That's what I'm saying.
That's why nobody wants to come up.
He's like, yo, I got to admit this embarrassing shit.
And some people going to call me a liar?
Like, that sucks.
Multiple people admitted to it.
His co-founder, he says he got molested.
He got tried.
Or did he get actually.
No, but he says throughout his time there, he got.
Remember when I itched my butt during Brilliant Idiots?
I like did a deep scratch in my butt?
Okay.
Before we started.
Before we started recording Flagrant, I went to the bathroom because I was like, I got to check on something.
And I sat down without pooping and I wiped and there was a full, I think I might have forgot to wipe before we did Brilliant Idiots.
So I did a whole pod with full shit on my ass after shit.
Okay.
That's how I know that guy wanted to get butt fucked.
No, he didn't.
Because that's what guys' butts look like.
That's what guys' butts look like.
And Diddy's not sticking his dick in that doo-doo.
Oh, that's yours.
Diddy might like a little dirty ass.
Yeah.
He got off of some weird shit, yo.
Can I make a point, though?
This is an interesting thing.
This is where black people using the little washcloth in the shower hurts you.
No.
Because it's always a clean ass to fucking.
Oh.
You guys always got a clean ass to fucking.
You knew when you went to a Diddy party.
Diddy knew if he chose a black guy.
He's like, yeah, that assumption.
You don't think about the dash cloth size of hygiene?
Yeah.
You don't think about it.
With a white guy, you know, I'm only washing to my abdomen.
You don't know what's below.
You don't know what's below.
So if you're going to try to take this ass, good luck.
Which race is the cleanest ass, you think?
Probably black, right?
Oh, without a doubt.
Because I didn't even know if they shit, really.
I think they might be different.
I think America, y'all don't use the bidet like that.
Al does, but it's just not a general bidet thing.
Yeah.
But y'all are a washcloth culture, so I guess you guys have bidet culture clean as ass.
Yeah, so probably Asian.
Middle Eastern, because they got infrastructure for bidets.
They all got bidets.
Yeah, they wash all the time.
No, no, no.
They wash before they pray and shit.
Yeah, they wash.
They just got soap.
They just rinse.
Yeah, it's better than you.
You don't do shit.
I don't know if it's better.
They wash their feet.
They wash their own face.
When it's raining outside, did I wash?
Smell your finger.
It's raining out.
Oh, I guess I'm clean.
I've counted that before.
No.
If you don't use soap, you don't.
Which one?
Oh, God.
No, that.
Disgust.
It was a different finger and it was still disgusting.
No, that wasn't what he was digging with.
I was digging.
I was digging with Doddy.
Oh, God, dude.
Oh, cool.
Stop being nasty.
Why is that nasty?
This is going to be in the dark, bro.
Why is that nasty?
He's going to be in the dark.
Why is that nasty?
I keep my nails low, so I don't know.
Say again?
He's invented an illness, bro.
That's good.
That's what he's so fucking.
That's scared.
The bar is so low for him.
He just connected two things.
That was fire.
That was a sentence.
That was fire.
I made a whole sentence.
You liked it a lot.
And then the Cassie shit was crazy.
Cassie shit.
I didn't realize all that.
Really know that that happened with Cassie?
No.
Also, I thought, did he allegedly...
This is going to sound bad.
Was he involved in Kim Porter's untimely demise?
That's what a lot of people think.
Yeah, they would cover it here.
And yeah, I don't know about that.
It was more balancing than I thought it would be with the Cassie stuff.
Like, they say he groomed her and all that, but then they'll say, like, what?
They'll show like emails of Cassie sending things that could be interpreted as like it was consensual or she was into it or whatever.
And a lot of people say like, she's a, if she tried to leave and got the shit kicked out of her once.
Yo, yeah, the physical violence is disgusting.
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Now let's get back to the show.
The stud, the bull that they brought through.
Yeah.
That was doing all the freakiness with Cassie.
He was like, yeah, at one point.
The Punisher.
Yeah.
I don't know if it was him.
I think it was a different one.
He was like, yeah, after every session, they collected my nut.
Yeah.
And they would collect it in a cup.
And then he was like, this went on for months at a time.
And so one day I was like, why are you guys collecting my nut?
And he was like, oh, I just like to see her play with it.
What's wrong with that?
Diddy goes, what's wrong with that?
He said that.
Yeah.
And he was like, after that, they never asked again.
But I was like, bro, they've been collecting your nut for four months and you just makes her play with it on a random day?
Like a yo-yo.
You know how big a freak Diddy is?
That's the one guy who got paid.
Everybody else, he wouldn't pay.
Oh, wow.
But he needed that get back, dude.
I need you to come back.
I need you to come back.
I need your comeback.
Really?
Bro, but collecting in a cup is just hilarious to me.
He's bringing this guy in.
It's like, all right, but you got a nut in the receptacle, and then we're going to use it for later.
And he was like saving it.
They'd like put it in the fridge and mark it and put the date on it.
No, they wouldn't.
I mean, I presume I'm going to chew out my life last year.
I mean, you don't want to get it mixed up.
You know what I mean?
You probably got other samples on it.
Oh, my God.
He's like, yeah, if we want to play with the right one.
Yeah.
I mean, like, what do we do?
Like, if we can find out that you have a genetic disposition to this behavior, what do we do with them?
I don't think this is nature as much as nurture.
I think this develops over time.
Oh, see, it's like a power thing.
I think it's nature.
I think it's you're born with it.
I think it's nature.
Who would he learn this shit from?
Yeah.
I think it's.
Well, I believe what he was saying earlier, which is like a power thing.
Like, I'm just controlling this whole situation.
But I think you're born with that.
It's like sociopathy.
Yeah, you have a sociopathy.
You have a sociopathy.
And maybe there obviously are like nurturing elements.
Yeah, yeah.
No, they're like okay towards that.
But like you have to on some level just not have any care for the people around you.
Yeah.
And just this insatiable desire to, you know, it's not even be loved or appreciated.
He likes being Diddy, the figure, but it's more like the power that being loved and appreciated gives him.
Because if it was just be loved and appreciated, he would just be an artist.
Yeah, they get loved and appreciated.
And a story.
Nah, he needs to tell what to do.
He gets off on that shit.
That infamous phone call.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which I think that was savage.
That was built up.
I think.
After rewatching it, it was like, yeah, they, I don't even think there was anyone on the phone.
No.
You know how I know there was?
Because he slams it.
He screams, I'm a savage, whatever.
And he notices the phone is off of the thing and he corrects it.
He's like, uh-oh, I don't even hear that.
There's a moment where he's talking about.
But yeah, I don't know.
This just feels like a little performative to me.
But I don't know.
But it was because this was being shot from making of the band.
So he probably was turning it up a little bit.
Oh, yeah.
And also, I think this is when he was like using drugs.
They actually started using drugs heavily in like what, 2011 or 7 or something like that.
I see.
I think he was always using drugs, to be honest with you.
Like his boy said he wouldn't even drink before.
And then at some point, he just went all the way with it.
Maybe.
I have a hard time believing that a guy that aspires to be a gangster does not consume alcohol or marijuana.
I have a hard time.
Really?
Yeah.
I think the opposite.
Yeah, I think so.
He's a control freak.
He loves control.
Yeah.
And alcohol and drugs take you out of control.
Exactly.
So he's like constantly in control until he's realizing how fun Molly is.
And he's like, all right, I'll try a little bit.
Yeah.
And then gets on a wave.
I can say that.
That was like he would work for like 14 days straight.
And his whole thing on all his IG lives that they're playing is how hard he works, how non-stop he goes.
I'm doing X, Y, Z. You're doing some kind of uppers to keep that pace up.
Yeah.
And ride that way, if you call it.
I'm like, and not to compare them, the two of them, but it's like Trump likes, also likes to be like and control.
And he's a no-alcohol, no drug guy.
Also, that's very interesting.
And he also doesn't pay people when he's got to worry about these sober motherfuckers.
Oh, yeah.
If somebody's sober, I don't trust you.
I do shrooms.
Yeah.
If you don't need something, something.
Like, something subtitle.
Yeah.
If you sober, sober, I don't trust you.
Oh, man.
You got to drink or something.
I don't know.
Do you look at everybody who's with Diddy in a video, like some rapper that's famous?
I'm not even going to name names, but they're next to Diddy and it's like, you got to know something.
So I thought about this because, like, you know, there's one way of looking at this and going, why are all the people that are in this documentary that they're doing 30 years later?
Why are you guys peaking up now?
Where were you for the last 30 years?
I don't think we can make these people heroes in the documentary.
Obviously, like the women that like were sexually abused, assaulted, like, you know, you're terrified.
They're trying to speak up and nobody wants to take a powerful guy.
Yeah, it's very different.
But like, none of these people speaking up now are heroes, but they did the right thing in that, like, if the things that they're saying are true, even if it's 30 years later, saying what happened is the right thing to do.
It doesn't make you a hero, but it's better than not saying it at all.
He's still brave.
And it's so brave because there's motherfuckers that don't want to see Diddy go down.
He also destroys you.
He takes everything.
He takes your credibility.
You can't get a job.
He's the kind of guy who fucking ruins you.
Also, he allegedly kills people.
Yeah.
So it's like, I'm in this industry.
He knows where I live.
I'm not going to say shit.
He's getting away with all this stuff.
So it is, I completely understand why you're not saying anything.
Male, female, whatever.
Doesn't matter.
I completely get why you're not saying anything.
I'm actually asking famous rappers who are with Diddy.
And there's, we've, everybody, I, I think I heard whispers.
We all see some crazy shit.
And it's like, oh, you're still next to him.
Do I do I look at you?
What's the empathetic way of looking at that guy?
Because there's a part of me that's judgmental, but it's easy to judge from here from the couch.
But the part of me that's judgmental is like, you had to know something.
You're right there.
So, what I would ask you is, how bad is Diddy compared to the dudes that they grew up with that might be involved in criminal shit?
I would think worse because maybe the lines he's pushing are like, yo, this is crazy.
Maybe depending on how you grew up, but like if you grew up in the hood and like you're affiliated with the gang and like, you know, he's like, I'm going to blow some guy's car and you go, well, yeah, that tracks.
He's a gangster.
And I grew up around gangsters and they would kill people and sell drugs and shoot at the bottom.
I don't think Diddy went around saying, hey, I just beat up Cassie and did this and did that.
It's all rumor shit.
Like we all heard the rumors about the shit, but just being out at a fucking brunch party with Diddy doesn't necessarily mean you're going to see all the shit that he's up to.
Maybe you're right.
I just, I think, well, from my understanding, some of the shit was public.
He was like, he hit his first wife just fucking punched her in the face in public or whatever out on the street.
And maybe you're right that these guys, like he was indicted for it.
That's a buddy of him who was with him who's talking on the dock saying that that thing happened.
And look, I'm not convinced of my position, but I'm going to push back.
So the shine thing, there's like so many things that you're like, yo, this guy, there's some weird shit going on with this guy.
Yeah, but with Sean, there was enough like buddiness and plausible deniability where it's like, hey, maybe it could have been Sean.
They both had their guns out.
They both shot the guns.
So it's like, we really don't know who really shot him.
That's the other thing.
It's very possible Sean did do it.
Yeah.
So, but again, the point is that like at this time in hip-hop, now it's different.
It's all theater kids.
But at this point in time in hip-hop, like if the dudes rapping weren't real, their crew was real.
Yes.
And the money backing a lot of these hip-hop labels was drug money.
So it's like, who, if you, if you were to get signed to someone in New York, how are you not going to be affiliated?
Name the label that's not affiliated.
Like, just name it.
I'm telling you.
It went back and forth.
Jay guys made money in the what is it?
Biggs put the money up for rock, right?
And that's drug money.
So you're connected with drug money and nefarious actors no matter how you do it.
Maybe Def Jam towards the end had gotten really cleaned up.
But like, what was Murder Inc.?
Yeah.
You know, they had tough guys there.
Even with Def Jam, they were just the label that's signed, but they know all the artists was up to fuck shit.
So yeah.
They were aware of shit.
That's fair.
I just want to have the conversation because it does, it didn't cross my mind.
I didn't have a hard position, but I was like, huh.
I just think when you see foul shit with regularity, you become numb to it.
You know, and in retrospect, you look back and you're like, oh my God, that's a fucking evil ass dude.
But also, like, just talking to 50 from, you know, what life was like in New York between the gangs at that time, like he told me, like, some of these guys are like real life schizophrenic serial killers.
Like, he would go meet with some of these dudes in jail because, you know, he does like life right stuff for all these shows.
And they would say shit, like, yo, man, I'm out in 20 days.
And he'd be like, what?
She's like, yeah, man, I can't wait, man.
I'm out in 20 days.
And 50 would be like, is he really getting out in 20 days?
Like, this guy's spending the rest of his life here.
And he'd be like, oh, these guys are completely crazy.
And either they lost it before or all the shit they went through made him lose it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or they're already.
But like, there's actually like the trauma, I don't think goes away.
I mean, like, you kill people in the streets.
Like, that affects your brain.
Yeah.
And every day you're thinking that retaliation is coming.
You're paranoid.
And to your point, that girl, Capricorn Clark, was like, I grew up with a mom that was, I forget how she was like Diddy, but she was a lot like Diddy.
So I just knew how to navigate that and I knew how to deal with that.
So that's why I could be his assistant so well.
So a lot of these guys probably like, yeah, I know how to deal with this trauma.
Exactly.
And also, let's take Fabulous, for example.
Like Fab would get money from doing ads for Sirok, but Diddy would confront him and be like, yo, why we never party?
Like, what's up with you, homie?
It's like, so he was keeping his distance, but he also knew how to play the games.
Like, hey, I'm going to get my check over here.
So it's like, I think there was a lot of people navigating like that.
Yeah.
But what did Diddy eventually actually go to prison for?
Do you remember what the actual charges were?
Violations of the Man Act.
They said this.
This is the thing they said beginning in the end of their episode: Violations of the Man Act, and I think prostitution.
Yeah, I think that is the man act.
You're like, hey, man, in the last episode, where was that guy from, that juror?
Because if he's Indian, that's a bad fucking look for him.
He's like, he said, they're asking the juror.
Two jurors are willing to come forward, and one of them has an accent.
I can't tell.
It might be Indian, but he's like, Yeah, I don't know.
I just see him like him and Cassie.
It was just a hot and cold relationship.
You know what I mean?
They just loved each other.
Misinformation and Mental Health Breaks00:03:20
You know, you're seeing these text messages.
I don't know.
She's so sure it's not consensual, but then, you know, he's beating her up, but then she said she loves him.
Sometimes the internet has a hard time understanding unconventional relationships.
Okay, they jump to conclusions about certain things.
Okay, Diddy, Cassie, other people being on his podcast.
You don't know anything.
Did jury selection must be a good thing.
Sorry, sorry.
Exactly.
You're Cassie.
Yeah, you are 100% Cassie.
I will say the hotel room you're getting dragged through is much more expensive than a fucking Motel Six or whatever she was getting ripped through.
So that was crazy.
You got an intercontinental?
Yeah.
Come on, dude.
You got to take it to a place where guys are also beating their wives.
So it doesn't seem that blends up and down.
Exactly.
Also, I heard he would pay for the floor he's on, above him, and below him.
You can't rent out the three floors of the four seasons, but you can do that.
You know, damn.
Yeah.
Man, when I'm watching that video, every time I'm like, take the stairs, dude, what are you doing taking the elevator?
Yeah, it's like a horror movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't leave the shoes.
You don't need your shoes.
Run.
Yeah.
And then he's just lurking in the towel.
Yeah, shit is crazy.
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Trial Tapes and PR Docs00:14:50
Now, let's get back to the show.
And he's out in a few months.
Dude, I thought about that.
That's certainly crazy.
So, that's the power of the documentary, right?
Because what Diddy wants, and he says it in the beginning of it, he's talking about losing the court of public opinion.
Yeah.
And he says some stuff like, you know, we got to get some propaganda going or whatever.
And what he's saying is actually not wrong.
He's smart.
He's going, Hey, you guys are to his lawyers.
You guys are going to CNN talking shit about me, but TikTok and social media is where the conversation is about me.
And we lost that.
Yeah.
As he should lose that.
Yeah.
Right.
But, and he's telling them he's like, you guys got to do something about this.
And I think that the beginning is interpreted like he's saying, hey, we got to lie and trick and do these things, which he probably is saying 100%.
But I think at that point in the case, he thought he's getting off.
Yeah.
And all of us thought he was doing 40 years.
Think about when this case first started.
We thought he was locked up 20, 40 years.
The guy gets 50 months.
He's going to be out of jail in two and a half years.
Like he'll be on the streets soon.
He could watch this doc while it's still trending.
Think about that.
Right?
Yeah.
Like, that's why allegedly, allegedly, allegedly.
But think about this.
So I think what he's doing is going, I still want to be Diddy and I can't be Diddy if the perception of me is a certain way.
The doc is way more damaging than jail.
Yep.
Bingo.
Jail.
I honestly think, I know it sounds crazy, but if it was just the jail, there are people that would go, oh, Cassie was into it.
And yes, you should never put your hands on a woman, but she was down to do these parties and that kind of stuff like that.
This is bullshit.
And he might have a way to come back.
I don't know if anybody can recover from this.
He got to go to Bali with Russell Simmons.
He got to find a foreign country that he could just meditate at.
Because I don't know.
You can't walk the streets of New York anymore after this.
You know, it's crazy.
I think he can flip it.
I think he's.
Because they, and they bring this up too in the fourth episode.
By the end of the trial, PR was largely on Diddy's side.
They got, do you remember all the stuff?
Like, paying a lot of PR.
He was paying people like $25 just to wear free Diddy shirts outside the trial.
I saw what it looked like.
I drove by.
I saw them.
That's crazy.
But he's still a billionaire.
You're not broke.
We don't, this probably has hurt him.
These, these trials cost so much money.
And also, when you're in jail, your money goes away.
Yeah.
And like.
And Bill's own stock, but all his Sirock got taken from him.
But he won that lawsuit, remember?
He won the.
They didn't say how much they settled for.
I thought it was like in the B's.
I thought it was crazy.
No, I don't think it was that crazy.
I would look.
It's what Diageo or something like that.
Diageo, yeah.
I don't think it was that crazy because imagine Diageo has heavy pockets.
They could be like, yo, this shit's going to trial.
But I thought you don't have it.
You can't last.
I would look that up.
But this could be like internet bullshit, but there was like a clause in the contract.
Like if he was criminally indicted for anything, they could waive whatever.
I don't know.
Or convicted, not indicted.
Yeah.
Crazy thing about this doc and about all docs is like the it's all in the edit, because imagine this, yeah, they use footage that he was going to use to make himself look good.
They use the same footage to make him look like a savage.
Yeah, and i'm like, it's all in the edit.
What can you really believe when it comes to the docs?
At the same time yeah yeah, i've learned this nuts.
Yeah, docs are terrifying.
Yeah, docs are in the PR thing and again, maybe this Netflix thing changes everything.
But even as this trial is going on, he's getting so much love in the streets.
Stop over and over in the dock, like in the public.
Oh, when he's like riding his bike, not discriminating before.
Yeah, this was earlier.
Yeah, this was before he was guilty because, like it was just the cassie tape, we didn't know anything from trial yet.
Say, that's nice, I understand, but if you didn't see the cassie tape, who didn't?
You just still love Diddy.
Who didn't see?
There are some people that didn't apparently, 12 jurors also, Diddy is so famous.
No, this is what they did, though smart, it's not about the you, he can't.
He's not on trial for abuse.
Sure, he abused her, but that's what they did?
Yeah, but i'm pretty sure that was one of the questions.
Have you seen that tape?
No, the girl, the juror, says the tape was damning.
The tape, let me know he wasn't a good guy, but that's not what he was on.
It's in his inadmissible evidence.
She said, I saw it and I know what kind of guy he is from that, but that's not what he's on trial for.
No, so you can't use it to do go.
And he's so famous that I just think in general, people melt in the face of that type of fame.
Yeah like, I feel like Diddy could walk around on the streets and there'd be a handful of people would be like yo, can I rabbit pick?
Yeah like, just just because you're around a famous person, you're like, immediately you forget everything.
You're like i'm.
I'm in front of Pete Diddy.
This is crazy and I think people would go up to him and try to say all he was guilty for is some orgies.
Like yeah, prostitution.
Like people gonna look at that and be like it's not that bad.
This is.
This is just character assassination to a t.
Yeah, documentaries should be are more dangerous than weapons.
Like I did say that.
Like, that is dangerous bro, that is like whoo yeah yeah, I think i'd rather my enemy have a gun than a documentary, right?
Because, like you can't, it's hard to shoot someone in public.
You can make me think whatever you want me to think, but also, if you shoot me, you go to jail.
If you make a documentary about me, you make money.
Yeah, you get an award.
Yeah yeah, what 50s?
Imagine someone gave you a golden globe for shooting you in the head.
That's what documentaries are.
This guy's life is done.
How diabolical is 50 Cent?
Bro enters a field of entertainment that he has no expertise in at all, becomes a phenomenal storyteller, curator of worlds, incredibly successful, maybe all just to build up the cachet to make a documentary about one of his arch nemeses yes, and destroy his life while profiting off of it.
50 is patient, god's work yo, god's work on this one.
50 is patient, bro.
Yeah, just don't cross it, yo.
If i'm Jay-z, i'm shaking in my motherfucking galoshes or whatever.
I know you don't want to hear this, but if I am Jay-z, I am terrible.
Let me tell you the difference between Jay-z and 50.
The elevator footage is very different with Jay-z.
Jay-z got elevator footage is with the polar opposite of Diddy's elevator.
How much you think he paid Uh Beyonce's sister to hit And him not hit her back.
Oh, that might have been the greatest move in the history of the world.
Now we see this poised, composed man that would never put his hands on a woman ever.
That was genius.
If that was PR, that's G.R.
He gets some licks off.
They know that the cheating side is.
I will say, you know, Diddy pay like 10 million or whatever to get that tape.
If I was Jay-Z, I'd be like, I paid you 10 million to leak that TM.
Leak it out.
Send it to Harvey.
It is funny seeing all the like daytime TV people, the thing that they took an issue with in the dock.
That's so funny.
Like, I've seen like three clips already, and they're like, Yeah, I watched this Diddy documentary, and he saw a guy took on his jacket and then tried to get hand sanitizer.
This guy's a demon.
Oh, I was like, that's the part that you thought was bad?
Nah, Charlamagne brought that up too.
Like, he was in Harlem shaking hands and hugging people, and he gets in the car and he goes, Oh, I got to take a shower.
I got to take a shower in boiling water.
And I think the feeling is, is like, this is a community you really say you're part of.
Yeah.
And you don't even want to touch them.
And it's like.
I thought that part was unfair editing.
Because he might have just done that all the time.
And he might have been like, man, I don't, these people are hugging me.
I don't know you.
He might just do that with everybody, but they only did said that after he was in Harlem.
And then the whole point was you use the black community.
And that could be true.
But I didn't think the edit that was a very strategically tied.
Did he have been at Burning Man every single year?
Ain't no fucking showers.
And every time you meet someone, you gotta hug him.
Actually, he would always have the most extravagant camp that probably had showers in it.
Yeah, sure.
But you're hugging every single person that you meet.
That's customary.
He probably showers after.
Yeah, but he wasn't fucking them.
That's the thing.
He wasn't fucking the people he met in Harlem.
No, that's what I mean.
You know, he's fucking out.
So you're going to save cum, but you can't hug an auntie in Harlem.
This guy got some weird hypochondria, man.
I don't know what he, bro.
Diddy's different, man.
Diddy's different.
Anyway, well, he's going to be on the streets in two and a half years.
He'll be at Burning Man soon.
Son, if he's good behavior, you might be out in a year, dude.
What's the first podcast appearance for Diddy?
Who's bringing him on?
Oh, fuck.
Who's bringing him on?
I mean, doesn't even say that because you want him here.
I'm not.
Hey, I'm not saying that.
I'm just asking you, who's going to bring him on?
Call her Diddy.
Who do you think brings him on?
That's a good question.
I think he does his own thing.
I think he does it.
Because what is Revolt?
Like, isn't that his own?
Doesn't he have to stop down from it or what?
Yeah, I guess.
But still, there's an interview out there someone's going to want.
Yeah, he's going to do his own thing.
He got like people that they don't care what people think of him.
Like Ak, I can see sitting down with Diddy.
Ack would actually do a great job.
You did a phenomenal job.
Also, just Ak interviewing him about the gay shit.
You cannot miss.
You cannot.
That stream would have 100 million views just, and we'd be just waiting.
We'd be getting edged right until he gets to the gay talk.
And the whole feed is just going to be like, yo, ask him about butt fucking.
Ask him about buttfucking.
And just having Axe say the sentence.
No, I think Diddy's going to lean in.
He's going to pull Kevin Spacey vibes.
You know when Kevin Spacey does the, plays the characters for lots of cards?
Frank.
What's his name?
Frank something.
Underwood.
Underwood.
And just does like the most ominous video you've ever seen.
Yeah.
That was crazy.
This is the greatest toy.
This is awesome.
No, this is so cool.
This is a modern Marvel.
This is what you get when you join ICE.
Yo, shout out to New York police.
What happened?
They arrested ICE.
This is how you get one.
I'm going back.
Going back, Arcash.
No, he reversed that H1VC shit.
He reversed that H1VC.
Oh, yeah, we're going to keep him?
Yeah, I think so.
Shout out to Indians, man.
Y'all made it.
Yeah.
Yo, can we take a shit?
Can I take a shit?
I'm about to shit my pants.
Can we take a picture?
Because I'm about to shit my pants.
All right, Akash's taking a little dump skis.
All right, so what are his options, right?
When he comes out, he could convert to Islam.
That's one.
That seems to be what a lot of people get canceled, have been doing recently.
Convert to Islam.
So he can convert to Islam.
He could ask, he could convert to MAGA and ask for the pardon from Trump.
I don't know if Trump pardons him, though.
Yeah.
They used to be boys, though.
Did they?
I'm pretty sure.
Back in the day on some TV shit.
Yeah, man.
Interesting.
All right.
So then, what are the Kaushi?
Give us the Kauchi odds for a Trump pardon.
All right.
Trump pardoned himself.
It's pretty high.
It's pretty high.
Oh, shit.
Sam Bank and Freed.
Baron, what did Barron do?
No, I need to comb so that's 19%, but it's going down since the documentary.
Wow.
So that's another thing.
Like, if the doc makes him so radioactive, he can't get a pardon because it looks so bad on the person that's in power.
Yeah.
And he's only got one crazy pardon to go.
You know what I mean?
It's either Diddy or Ghelane.
Yeah.
You gotta go Ghelane on that.
You really think he only has one pardon to go?
I mean, in terms of crazy PR.
Where's the political capital in giving a Diddy part?
Like, I think that should be zero, guys.
He's been pardoning motherfuckers.
He don't even know who they are.
They asked him about that Asian dude, the crypto guy.
He's like, I don't know who that is.
Oh, the Binance dude.
Like, that's crazy.
Yeah, that is a little wild.
That is wild.
That's a little wild.
You can't pardon someone you don't know who they are.
Unless you're Biden.
Why did he pardon Santos?
Oh, Santos is a good time.
Santos was a good time.
He just seems not like, yo.
There's got to be like, oh, he's going to snitch.
Like, this is what I imagine the pardons are.
It's either like a favor from someone close to you before you get out of there, somebody who has been loyal to you and got hemmed up in some shit.
And you're like, I need to protect him, you know, or there is political capital in the pardoning.
You know, January 6th, people, there's political capital in pardoning all them, right?
The rouse up the base.
Base is excited.
I think some people just straight paying for it.
I think there's a price for it.
But what's the price, though?
Well, allegedly, I heard this with the Binance guy.
Two miller.
Yeah, what's the Binance one?
Like, allegedly, it was like he got pardoned, and then he has all these funds that he's able to reinsert back into Trump's projects.
Yeah.
Like his crypto projects.
Allegedly.
I don't know if this is the case.
This is what I've heard.
I mean, that checks out.
So then you're paying for it, like Al say.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like a little, you know, you scratch my back type.
I scratch yours.
Did this run out of battery?
Probably.
Thank God.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know, man.
The party shit is crazy, right?
Shouldn't we get rid of that?
Why does the president just get to say you're allowed to do illegal shit?
Right?
Like, why?
That's weird, the pardon thing.
What's the justification for it?
It's one of the checks and balances he can push back against the judicial.
So if the judicial is going after someone that he can then pardon them.
But that doesn't seem like a balance.
Well, the idea is like, oh, it seems like total power.
The judicial is going after people unfairly.
And then you have the president that's able to be like, no, no, you guys are overstucked.
How can they go after people unfairly if it's decided by a jury of their peers?
I guess the idea is like you're levying all these charges that are frivolous and then you're able to get them on something.
But ultimately, the jury of your peers is the check against the judicial system.
So if you think the judicial system is doing something abusive, then a jury of your peers sets in and goes, no, that's not the case.
I just think it's like a weird amount of power to bestow upon the president.
I would do away with pardon.
The founders intentionally designed it as a kind of emergency break on the justice system.
So just in case the justice system got out of whack.
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Well, also, they can only forgive federal crimes.
So it's against the federal judicial system.
Like state crimes, you can't.
I think the governor can let you out for state crimes of your state.
Interesting.
So, and then, like, what would a federal crime be?
Is that based on jurisdiction or is that based on the type of crime?
I think jurisdiction.
I'm going to go.
Because if like you go across state lines, it becomes federal.
Yeah.
Like Luigi is up for state crime and federal.
See, but then there's times where pardoning is good, like the Central Park V. That was a good pardon.
Sorry, guys.
A federal crime is any act that violates a law passed by the U.S. Congress, typically involving national interests crossing state lines, occurring on federal property or affecting federal agencies, and is prosecuted by the federal government and federal court.
Unlike state crimes handled locally, common examples include terrorism, mail fraud, kidnapping, cross-state lines, drug trafficking, counterfeiting, tax evasion, and cyber crimes.
Some stuff you need to get pardoned for.
Little shit.
You know what I mean?
You do a little drug trafficking, some tax evasion, some kidnapping, and you need someone to step in and cover you, you know?
Yeah.
Let's be honest.
This shit is tax evasion.
Like, is this shit?
That's what it is, right?
I mean, now, probably.
This is like a white, it's white collar shit so you could look after your homies before you get out of office.
Because what terrorists is getting?
Oh, I guess January 6th.
Kidnapping across state lines.
No one must pardon you for that.
Drug trafficking, maybe.
Like, I could see you pardoning someone if you were drug trafficking, but like the CIA was the one that was importing the drugs from like some central American.
Or what if you're like a whistleblower and you come out and you're like, hey, this company is doing some terrible shit or like the CIA is doing something fucked up.
They put you in jail.
And then two years go by and we go, like, actually, he doesn't need life in prison.
They put you in jail for treason.
Right.
But in reality, you did the right thing.
It was patriotic.
Yeah.
And then they bail you out.
God.
Okay.
All right.
And I think that's how they used to use it.
And now they're just abusing this shit.
They got to let us vote.
I think we got to put it up to a vote.
We do like America's Got Talent style.
You bring five of them out and be like, all right, what did you do?
Why should you be out?
And then we decide.
It's call in Ryan Secret's host.
America's Got Pardons.
Yeah, exactly.
I like that.
And you bail people out.
And then we get to choose and be like, all right, this guy can come out.
Yeah, this is late stage capitalism.
It might be run ads on it.
It'll be great.
It might be a rap.
And then we just let people out and see what they're going to do when they get out.
What's going to be your first order of business?
You know?
All right.
That's all the diddy shit, man.
That's that's enough diddy.
Enough diddy.
Do not mess with 50.
Do not make him a mortal enemy of yours.
That is a horrible decision.
Also, don't beat and abuse and fuck guys against their will or women against their will.
That ends up biting you in the long run.
But yeah, listen, we got a lot to talk about on Patreon.
We got to talk about Matt Barnes getting sending $60,000 to a AI chick on Instagram.
Allegedly.
Give him his money back.
He should donate that to charity.
Matt's, you know, Zuckerberg should give him his money back.
And then Matt donates that to charity.
That'd be sick.
Yeah, for online awareness.
That's a good thing to do.
I think that's a good thing to do that we could all support.
And it's a great charitable donation.
You're already throwing it to charity.
You might as well continue that.
Okay.
That was her name.
Yeah.
But yeah, we got a lot to talk about.
Patreon, man.
Quentin Tarantino coming on.
Tell us more actors he hates.
So we got to talk.
Poor Paul Danoff just waking up that morning, going on the internet.