Sean O'Malley joins Flagrant to discuss his UFC title, Kill Tony roasts, and upcoming March fight against Chito Vera, reflecting on regret over knocking out Aljamain Sterling while analyzing the mental aspects of rematches. The conversation covers his diverse religious practices, family life with daughter Atlanta, and financial goals, before shifting to a debate on boxing versus MMA integrity following Tyson Fury's victory over Francis Ngannou and Sean Strickland's win against Israel Adesanya. Ultimately, the episode highlights how the UFC sustains fighter careers better than boxing while exploring personal anecdotes and betting strategies. [Automatically generated summary]
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Undefeated Performance on Kill Tony00:10:42
What's up everybody?
Welcome to Flagrant and today we are joined by, well, he has tons of accomplishments, but let's just start with the one he's most proud of.
Undefeated.
No.
A amazing performance on quite possibly the greatest show on the internet, Kill Tony.
We have Sugar Sean O'Malley in the building.
Oh, shit.
Okay, cheers, cheers, cheers, brother.
I forgot about that.
Listen, you did not, because I know how hyped you were about that.
I was excited.
We were in Phoenix, and when we were hanging in Phoenix, I remember you saying, bro, I really want to go on Kill Tony.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm obsessed with it, bro.
It's incredible.
It's such a great show.
It really is.
It is an incredible show.
Shout out to the boys that are doing it.
And yeah, just unbelievable.
It's great for every aspect of YouTube because I'm watching it on shorts.
Yep.
I'm watching it long form.
I'm watching Eclipse.
It's just, it's a phenomenal show.
And you did well on it.
And I knew you were f ⁇ ing nervous.
It was, bro.
But you had some funny lines.
You went for it a bit.
It was good.
My main thing is I didn't want to be one of the guys that over talked.
I've watched too many episodes where I'm like, shut up.
Just shut up.
Let Tony cook.
Just be there.
Be there.
So I just wanted to, I didn't want to over talk.
What was the best roast on you?
The best roast on me.
I only remember.
I remember David Lucas said I look like a camel with one hump or something.
I didn't understand that, but it was funny for some.
It was like, it was funny, but it didn't make sense.
The one thing I wanted to say to Dave, but I was too nervous and I just, it couldn't come out.
Don't say that word.
Don't say that.
Come on.
You're not lost, bro.
You can't say it.
You can't say that.
I'll say it.
Okay, good.
Say the other one.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wanted to say you look like you have burnt top ramen on your head.
I'm glad you didn't say that.
Yeah, the first.
Say the N-word.
What do you say in traffic when they cut you off?
You know what I mean?
Nipples.
That was tough.
I'm telling you, I'm telling you.
You got a hit, though, the top ramen one.
You guys just had a, it had a been there moment.
Yeah, I guess.
Yo, why?
Why'd you have to knock out our boy Al Jamaine bro?
That was rude, bro.
That was fucked up.
Honestly, I felt bad.
You fuck with Al Jamaine.
I do too.
I felt bad.
Did you really?
I do feel bad-ish now.
Because I do, I think he's a good dude.
But it just had to be done.
That's interesting.
Hold on.
I do feel bad genuinely.
Does that happen?
You build up this animosity for somebody because you're going to fight them.
And then afterwards, they turn out to be a good guy.
I never honestly had animosity with Al Joe.
I always thought he was a good dude.
I never really talked too much shit going into it.
He was always kind of complimentary.
And I think he's a good dude.
Cheeto, I don't like him.
I'm excited about this.
You guys do not like each other.
We have a face-to-face tomorrow.
No.
Yeah, we're doing face-to-face tomorrow.
I thought you guys weren't doing face-to-face.
No, you weren't doing press conference.
We're not doing press conference.
Yeah, I thought we were going to do a press conference.
I didn't know when they were going to release it.
I was coming to New York through all this media.
But I kept telling the UFC, I'm like, I don't, every meeting I do, it's like, when's your next fight?
And we weren't going to announce it.
I was like, we have to fucking announce it.
We have to.
I can't not do all this media all week and not talk about it.
Not be able to say it.
So they, yeah, they, I didn't even know Dana was going to.
I was sitting in Ariel's green room.
Yeah.
And I was looking through my Snapchat comments.
And they were like, is March serious?
What?
No one saw that.
Dana announced it.
Cheeto didn't even know until he FaceTimed Ariel.
He probably knew like I know.
We know we're going to fight.
Haircut looks great, by the way.
Thank you.
Let's keep talking about some guy.
Sorry about that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, you look great too.
That was a great text message you made up from Cheeto, though.
That was made up.
I haven't.
He said Cheeto message me and he was like, read the textbook.
Yeah, let's see if it matches up.
He said, hey, bro, thank you for cheating.
Hey, H-A-Y.
Did he?
Yeah.
Why do you say that?
Hey, bro, thank you for choosing me for my next fight.
Our last fight, I got so lucky, LOL.
It's crazy.
You were kicking my ass, LOL.
Damn.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Tell me to text you that.
I don't know.
Yo, can I ask you a question?
Yeah.
Do you think Cheeto's the best dressed in the UFC?
I'm being dead serious.
I know he has a lot of people.
Cheeto has fantastic style.
We had this conversation last time.
I don't know what you have with Cheeto.
I don't know if you guys have like a bad one.
My man has great style.
He looks good.
Can we pull up some images?
You look great too.
It has nothing to do with me wanting to knock his ass out.
I just genuinely don't look at him and be like, I think it's fucked up what you do to Gotham City on a day-to-day basis.
That is kind of fucked up.
You really think he dresses nice, huh?
No bullshit.
I think he has great style.
For like what?
I mean, not to be a kaleidoscope.
But.
Come on, try to act out, bitch.
Okay, let me act it out.
Let me act out.
Throw a top ramen on your head.
No, I just think he has great style.
I think his great style is different.
It's different than what you're doing.
Who do you think is his good style?
I'm good.
Other than you.
Who other than you has good style in you?
Obviously, Connor dresses.
He looks good.
He fucking dresses nice.
I'm not into Connor style.
I'm not as much.
I'm into Connor, but the style, I don't.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
That was okay.
I just like him.
Just like him is a man.
I like it from what's on the inside.
I didn't know something about fashion would get gayer, but we got it there.
I like his accent.
I don't think, yeah, I just, I'm on a different level when it comes to the style, I think.
I just don't really think anyone's that close, to be honest.
I'm going to see these winds on you.
You're shining out here.
I had to get brighter than the last time.
How much is the one?
180, 200 on a good day.
He didn't like my other one, so I had to switch it up.
But then you got another Richardson.
Richard, yeah, I got another Richard.
But he likes one more?
Are you still ugly?
I don't like the Richard Meals.
Yeah, okay.
Fashion is five.
Don't let me.
No, I shouldn't.
I don't like it.
I like your personality.
I appreciate that.
I like the way you fight.
I like the paper.
The Rolex is crazy.
That one's crazy.
I might put that on a step.
Can I tell you a prediction that I had about that fight after we did our fake sparring?
Yeah.
For me versus Al Joe.
Yeah.
Okay.
What?
I think I even said it on the pod, but I was like, you get this crazy extension when you throw straight punches.
And like your whole body twists.
You know how sometimes people like they'll barely even move or they'll just extend arms.
Yeah, like Cheeto.
Oh, is that how is that how he throws?
Yeah.
He's slow.
And I remember being in there with you.
And I'm like taller.
I'm like significantly taller than you.
I'm like so much taller.
I'm like huge enough.
And I remember just being there and be like, wow, like distance-wise, without even moving in, you could touch me whenever you wanted.
Yeah.
And in that moment, I was like, Al Joe better not keep this on the feet.
He better not keep this on the feet.
Two takedowns.
Were you surprised about that?
And was that like a big confidence booster?
It was huge.
It was huge.
I look at him as the best grab.
He was the hardest matchup in the Bandaway division for 100%.
And stuffed both of the takedowns.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that was a huge confidence booster.
I knew I was capable of it.
But to go out there and do it in the moment when it matters, that's huge.
Okay.
I want to see that rematch.
Let me ask you this question.
Really?
How am I supposed to one-up that?
He's not like popular.
There's so many other guys that are like bigger fights.
Me versus Cheeto.
You versus Cheeto is huge.
Yeah.
And then what else?
Me versus Corey is a bigger fight.
Bro.
People are excited about that.
I mean, just from a technical story.
Me versus Pungmar someday if he goes out there and gets a couple wins.
Just Umar Nirma Gametov versus Sean O'Malley.
That's Connor, Habib.
But he's got to get some wins.
He's got to get some interest.
He's probably going to get some wins.
Okay.
If he can get to fights healthy.
Ilya Taporia versus Alexander Volkanovsky in February.
Yep.
If Ilya goes out there and beats Volk, I would like to go up to 45.
So I think that's a big thing.
But he said you don't really want to fight Volk.
No, but he's saying he would want to go.
I'd fight Ilya if he wins.
If he gets the job done, I think Volk's coming back a little too soon from getting knocked out.
Have you felt what Volk was talking about ever?
Where you're like.
Oh, yeah.
What is that?
I feel like I don't feel it too much unless I can't train.
Like dealing with injuries.
Like if I can go out there and train really hard and grapple and just do like get that release of that energy out, I feel fine.
But if I was dealing with like an injury and you can't train really hard, I feel like that's when I feel it.
But what is the feeling?
I think it's just not preparing for a fight.
It just kind of feels like you don't have a purpose.
Yeah.
But I think that's just, I mean, I've always bring it back to meditation, but I do think there's like something in that.
Bruh, that was the other thing I was surprised about when we were over when we were in Phoenix hanging with you guys was I think that you give the illusion that you're hanging, you're smoking, you're beating up the dummy in the backyard, whatever.
And then I don't want to give away too much of how the sausage is made, but like you going through like your regimen, how strict it is, the things you're doing for mental health, the things you're doing for physical health.
It was, yeah, it's no accident.
Yeah, no, I think it's a good message to spread and tell people about, but it's not sexy.
Like people aren't, if it was just that, people don't follow that too much.
Yeah.
So I think I like spreading it out a little bit, telling people about it.
Yeah.
There's a good, when there's a platform to put it on.
Okay, champship.
Champship.
Champsh.
Drugs and bitches.
More meditating.
No, I'm kidding.
Champship.
The feeling.
Sensation.
Like walking around different the next week.
Is it like week?
Month.
Like, tell me how long it lasts, the high.
Eventually, I'm sure you start to get into, okay, I have to prepare for this next fight.
How long is a high?
What is the high like?
No, to be honest, I felt like I was kind of champ before the belt.
I really truly believe I was the biggest name in the division.
My fight versus Peter Jan was huge.
My fight versus Pedro Munoz was big, didn't play out.
You know, it was a big buildup.
Expectation for you is always big.
Yeah.
I felt like I've been champ.
So when I won the belt in that spectacular fashion, though, it was nice.
But as far as how did I feel, I just feel like a fucking normal dude.
I want to feel cool as fuck and feel like I'm champ, but I just don't.
No, nothing.
I still feel like I have so much that I need to do.
I have to defend the belt.
I think you need to defend the belt for your champ.
You know what I mean?
So I still feel like I have so much to do and so much I want to accomplish that I don't feel like which is a good thing, I think.
Because if I felt like I'm like, I did it.
I fucking did it.
And didn't have that drive anymore.
That's dangerous.
That's dangerous.
So I haven't checked out yet.
I feel like I'll know when I check out.
Feeling Like a Normal Dude00:03:22
What about Tim?
Was there like a team with you and him?
I got to bring him his ass down all the time.
Why, Coach of the year, walking around.
Man, yeah.
That's why we told him he's not invited.
Yeah, he wanted to come.
He was invited, but then we had to uninvite him.
Yeah, he needs fucking reality.
Go work in the coffee shop.
Yeah, for real.
He was great in the Flower Moon thing.
Killers of Flower.
Killers of the Flower.
Killers of the Flowers.
He's fantastic in that.
He killed him.
The new Martin Scorsese movie.
He's fucking fantastic.
You didn't know your boy's in the movie?
Yeah, he was in Breaking Bad.
He's been Friday Night Light.
He's been all day.
You didn't know retarded Matt Damon is your coach?
I could see how you get retarded.
No, Tim's been doing good.
He's opened up a second jam, little coffee coffee shop.
His gym's right here, and then right down the hall, there's another space.
He's opened up a little jam, little coffee shop.
He wanted to come, but his second gym just opened.
So it's like super head.
Shout out Tim.
Tim's a fucking man.
Yeah, we got to get him on.
We got to get him on.
Okay, So you're not on this like super crazy high from it.
Tell me that's not Tim.
Shout out to him.
That's like a better looking version of Tim.
Yeah.
I tell Tim what he wishes he looked like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, no, that gets a good idea.
Who is that guy?
Jesse Plemons.
Okay.
Yeah.
AJ Tim.
Yeah, our announcement.
Thank you guys so much for selling out Madison Square Garden on May 4th.
We added a second show.
I don't know if there's tickets still available by the time this comes out.
I'm recording this before we went to Australia.
So if there are, that shows May 3rd.
Go get those right now.
Thank you guys so much.
This has been absolutely unbelievable.
This is literally my dream in comedy is what I've been driving towards my entire professional life.
So I'm so excited.
And trust me, you do not want to miss out on the experience that is going to be these shows when the hometown kid hits the garden.
It's going to be amazing.
Also, we're in Australia right now.
So Melbourne, I will be seeing you soon.
Sydney, I'll be seeing you soon.
And Brisbane, I'll be seeing you soon.
Thank you guys so much, Australia, for selling out these shows.
It's been unbelievable.
And I think it's time.
It might be time to really kick off the tour in America.
Let's just say that.
Might be time to really kick off the tour in America.
We might have to do some things.
There's some cities that need to be seen.
TheandrewSilis.com.
More news soon.
Peace.
Breathing life into America.
Tour dates, guys.
We have added another show in Portland.
We sold out December 2nd and 1st.
So we added another show on December 2nd.
December 8th, I'm in New Orleans.
December 17th, I'm in Glasgow.
18th, London.
We added a second show.
19th, Manchester.
Hurry up and buy those tickets.
Those will sell out.
Also, January 6th, 8th, and 9th, I am in Norway.
Amsterdam, we sold out the first show.
We're adding a second.
And I know that in the Netherlands.
Guys, Amsterdam, thank you guys so much.
That show sold out in like 48 hours.
I'm damn near putting up Schultz numbers.
Much smaller venue, but same time frame.
Also, January 18th through the 20th, I'm going to be in DC at the improv.
It's one of the best comedy clubs in the country.
So buy your tickets for that.
And last but not least, Salt Lake City, Utah, January 26th and 27th.
Wise Guys, another historic club.
Can't wait to be there.
Get your tickets for those shows and more at Akashing.com.
Okay, so you just laid out the next few fights.
Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, Cheetos obviously next in March.
Comedy Club Tour Dates00:09:45
Where at?
I don't know.
What about what about business?
What about it?
Like, is there business that you want to do?
Is there anything like you got the belt?
You've achieved it.
You've reached the mountaintop.
Yeah.
What comes next?
Like, you want to do movies?
Like, I got offered a movie scene.
Wait, wait, wait.
What do you say?
We signed it in the AAA.
Can we allude to it?
Definitely not.
But I turn it down.
Get the Pakistani out of here.
Okay.
Is it Hollywood or adult?
Hollywood.
Hell yeah.
Okay.
I look over at Mo as well as just ask.
It's just a general question, you know?
No, I just, I'm not ready for movies yet.
Am I?
I gotta, like I said, I'm I got a lot to a lot to do.
And beating up Cheetos next.
But as far as business-wise, goes.
How do you, how do you, how does the Cheeto fight go?
What do you think?
What do you think?
Let me think.
You think while I talk?
Okay, you go.
You go.
I'm going to do the thinking.
I think, you know, stylistically, you know, and I think about, I think this about anybody.
If I'm going to be, if I'm faster than you, that's why the Corey fight's so interesting.
Because I'm not, I don't know if I'm necessarily faster.
I think it's pretty equal, but I feel like if I'm faster than someone that's going to be, I can, I'm going to beat them.
And I think, you know, I'm just going to be fast, too fast for Cheeto.
He's, he's, he's, he's tough.
He's very durable.
Yeah.
You know, I'm cardio's great.
Cardio's good.
I'm not taking anything away from him.
It's a tough fight.
Does he?
Great dresser.
Yeah.
A lot of things.
Yeah.
Is there a mental component going into a fight with someone that technically beat you, even though there was a obviously a body malfunction?
Maybe if he would have beat me in like a three-round fight, I went to decision and he just like beat my ass, that'd be like, that'd be different.
That'd probably be harder.
Like for Cheeto to fight Corey again.
Like remember when Corey fucked Cheeto up like for five rounds?
Bad.
Remember that?
You guys all remember that?
Yeah.
So I'm saying, like, if that would have happened, like, it would have been doubted, like, fuck, like, going into a rematch would be tough.
But it's just like the fact that I watched the fight back.
I was smoking him, kicked that fucking nerve, rolled my bitch-ass ankle like four times.
And I was still piecing him up with one foot.
Yeah.
I blitzed him, hit him with a seven-piece.
And I step back, and my ankle goes, whoop, whoop.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, my ankles gave out and fucking.
But yeah, so no, I don't feel like going into this fight mentally.
I'm having to battle any demons.
Yeah.
The mental opponent seems seems, I thought, I assumed it would be tough, but I feel like technically you'll be able to edge him out.
I re-watched that fight today.
Did you?
Yeah, yeah.
And seeing you even battling through the nerve going.
You could tell when it happened.
Bro.
Yeah, what happens then?
Are you like, I'm fucked or you were like, you know what?
I think because it's happened to people in the past, but the nerve comes back.
My ankle wrap was too tight.
And I remember having my coach in the back telling him before we walked out.
I'm like, hey, we try to loosen this up.
His shit was so fucking tight.
So when he hit that nerve, I just don't think it was like able to come back.
I didn't know it comes back in the same day.
Yeah, yeah.
It's happened to it happened to.
I said it happened to Jimmy Croot, I think his name was.
It happened to Izzy, right?
A little bit, but his foot, like, my shit was straight.
Yeah, you had just no control over it.
Yeah.
No, it happened.
There's a few fighters this Michael Chandler and Bellator.
Yeah.
Happened to Henry Cejudo against Demetrius Johnson in the first round.
His came back.
So I think if I could have made it to the end of the round, I think it might have came back, but my ankle wraps were so fucking tight that I think it just shut it off.
So Judo wants some smoke, huh?
He says he does, bro.
Like, what?
Too little, you'd think.
Well, not just too little.
I don't really think that has anything to do with it.
I just love telling him because I know that he's got little man syndrome, which is real.
Yeah.
And I just, oh, it fires him up, bro.
Every time.
And he watches everything I do.
He wants to beat me so bad.
So he's watching right now.
Oh, yeah, he wants to be six foot.
He was tripping him without even knowing it on accident.
I brought up the belt.
I was like, dude, they should give you guys like a travel size one you can walk around.
And he just immediately goes, yeah, the Sejudo belt.
Yeah.
I was like, yeah, he's out of here, bro.
Come on.
Yeah.
And Alger took Henry down four times.
Yeah.
And Alger took me down.
How many?
Zero.
Out of two.
Did he go for two shots?
He did.
So I told Henry, if you want to work on some wrestling, like, I'll help you.
I told him.
So, but yeah, Henry acts like he wants it, but I think they're going to do Henry versus Murab.
I think they'll do that.
And then kind of depending on what.
Do you want Murab because he took the jacket?
He didn't take the jacket.
I gave it to him.
I thought he was my jacket guy.
It looked like he ran your jacket, bro.
No, you watched the clip.
Someone pulled up.
I standed in the back.
Dude, it looks like he pulled up on you and said, yo.
You got to get out of just fear.
I thought you were just like afraid.
He's like, yeah.
You know how tall he is?
The first time I didn't feel anything when you made fun of short guys, I'm starting to think it's a thing tillered me a little bit.
No, I got short questions.
No, watch the video.
I handed it to him.
Ah, you saw his jacket or something like that.
No, I thought he was going to hold it for me.
Yeah.
Until I got needed again.
Yeah.
Yeah, but what about his nose, though?
What's going on?
He looks like a jacket guy.
I'm dead ass.
Watch.
I handed it to him thinking I was a fucking jacket guy.
Ah, fuck.
Okay, let's see.
He's already on the thing.
I got to find it real quick.
But dude, yeah, when you're in the Octagon, I've only ever fought in the Octagon except for this time.
So I was in there, like, you know, your senses are tingling.
Yeah.
Fucking dick's getting hard.
Nice.
A little bit.
Nice.
What are you packing down there?
I'm packing, depends.
Like a clicker?
Like a remote.
Like Apple TV or one of the bigger clickers.
Not like the smaller.
Not like the Roku one.
Not a Roku.
Like a clicker.
Do you see it?
Wait, can you see?
I already took it off.
But yeah, look.
Wait, wait, wait.
Look, look, look, look.
I handed it to him.
You got scared, bro.
I handed it to you.
You got scared, dude.
You said, yo, take the thriller jacket, run.
No, you want to know what really happened?
Is Tim was right behind me walking into the office?
You thought Murab was Tim.
I was locked into an.
I mean, I was looking at Al Joe's soul.
Yeah, I was looking at Al Joe.
I thought Tim was still behind me.
So I take my jacket off and I hand it to him because I'm locked in with Al Joe.
Yeah.
And it was Murab.
And has Tim felt insulted that you confuse them at all?
I probably haven't told him.
He probably wouldn't like it.
He's going to find out.
He wouldn't like it.
Yeah, he's not going to like that.
But you know what about Murab?
That dude's funny.
I think he's genuinely a good dude.
I think he's genuinely retarded.
And you have experience too.
That's the other thing.
Like when you say that.
I don't think he's true.
I don't think he just has an accent.
Oh, that's tough to tell.
Yeah.
No, I get that.
It's so funny.
I went to the PI a couple weeks after because I had to do something at the UFC.
Yeah.
And Al Joe, it was after I beat Aljo.
Alge was on vacation.
And Murab was just sitting at the cafeteria at the PI by himself.
Just he lives there, bro.
What was he drinking?
He literally was just sitting there.
There was no food.
He just hangs out there.
Okay.
So what is that indicative of?
It feels like you're kind of hinting at something.
I don't know.
Yeah, I guess I don't really know where I was going with that.
He's just sitting there, though.
You know what I mean?
I have another technical UFC question.
Is there a mental component going into this fight knowing you kind of got fucked up by a stand-up comedian?
Well, I mean, I don't want to bring it up because you guys are both.
I mean, we were very generous with the footage that we put out, right?
Like, I appreciate that.
You did land that little teeth kick, but besides that.
But you actually ate it.
It was impressive.
I did.
But I feel like you were going maybe like 10% on the bottom.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I would say I landed one leg kick that would mess up your perennial nerve.
You know where it's at.
Exactly.
You know what's going to suck?
What's that?
Because if he hits it again, my shit goes numb again.
Then I'll accept that first loss.
What are you going to do to stop that?
Well, it hasn't happened again.
Do you do anything differently, or it's just you don't think it's going to happen again?
Bro, shit was so lucky.
That was so lucky.
I feel like you're getting like mentally sharper where you should be getting more CT'd up.
No, no, I guess I don't get like no, like you're sharper than the last time you were on.
It's reverse.
I think you're, yeah, like you should be getting a little bit more punchy.
Dumber?
I'm definitely getting dumber in my choices I make.
Like what?
What happens?
Talk now.
Talk now.
No, no, no.
You brought it up.
Let's go.
You brought it up.
I'm doing on the farm.
What have you been doing on the farm?
That's exactly what happened.
What you've been doing on the farm, be honest, dude.
You got dirt bikes yet?
Are the hoes different now?
Is the blue checks are they coming through?
Like, what's Tampa?
I've had the blue check for years.
No, not you.
The blue check?
The blue check checks.
Oh, females.
All right, fine.
You got a little CT.
Are the females different now that you got the belt?
They want to touch the belt.
He got that Willie Jadison situation.
Talk about my watch.
Okay, I'm just saying.
No, you'd be surprised, bro.
My demographic is just all dudes.
I'm not surprised about that.
No, no, you would be surprised.
Okay, I'm surprised.
It's all dudes.
I'm very surprised.
But no, I'm saying that there's got to be somebody throwing.
You're walking around Phoenix.
I don't really walk around Phoenix.
No one walks around Phoenix.
That shit's too hot.
It's a little hot.
You're buying jewelry.
You're getting a new one.
I've been buying jewelry.
We've been buying watches.
And the hoes haven't changed at all.
He got in trouble last time.
You got jewelry.
You got in trouble last time.
He got in trouble last time.
Didn't it?
Better not.
No, I didn't.
Put out the bird ball like you did last time.
That's bad.
No, I had Invisalign or something.
I've had Invisalign.
I've been done with that for a while.
I thought so, dude.
You got glowed up.
You got the belt, and now you got no hoes.
No.
What the fuck is going on, bro?
This is crazy.
You had the best deal that's ever been made in the history of marriage.
I said a man in trouble.
Phoenix Heat and Jewelry Buying00:02:42
I just, I just do, I just, yeah.
What's going on, Sugar?
Sugar, what's going on?
Ask Danny.
Should we bring her on here and ask about William?
You done knocked out everybody.
You got the belt.
You're on top of the world.
She prefers I don't talk about it anymore.
Respect.
That's one of the greatest answers I've ever heard.
Yeah.
Because that's a great way of saying, I am not getting no pussy while leaving the illusion that it might be out there.
I'm going to use that.
That's fire.
Or I've been getting too much pussy.
That's how they do it.
I actually think he might be getting pussy because that ankle's been twitching a lot.
I think that's his tell.
Yeah.
I think that's a tell.
Okay, okay.
So we're not going to talk about it.
Do you want to know why?
I think he's still maybe, you know, out here.
Apparently, I heard, allegedly, Sugar Sean is a singer.
Oh, that is facts.
We need that.
What do you mean?
We need that.
He's been taking a lesson.
You didn't know that?
He's been doing singing lessons, bro.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
What type of singing?
Just singing, just like some good singing.
Does my voice sound smoother at all?
I've noticed it.
Has it?
No, I need to get it.
I'm telling you, maybe that's why I thought there was no CTE because the voice is smoother.
Three lessons of 30 minutes each.
Give me something.
I don't got nothing yet.
No, come on, bro.
I'm just still in the early stages, but I did take up singing lessons and it's fucking embarrassing, bro.
It's so embarrassing.
What do you start with?
What song?
Well, right now we're working on What a Wonderful World.
Wow.
That's a good news.
I'm still trying to find my voice.
I'm a tech.
Eyes of blue.
Something, something.
I still don't know the lyrics, but we're slowly getting there.
30 minutes each goes like that.
I'm nervous.
You don't know no lyrics?
Well, I don't.
Sometimes we're working on it.
Son, let's give him a song.
Let's give him a song here.
What's something we could sing?
How about Annie?
We just need to make that shit right.
Anyway, or Ice Spice, bro.
You got the ice spice.
You thought it was free.
Yeah, you got that.
Ice spice is hot.
I love that.
Yo, yo, chill.
Oh, yeah.
Yo, chill.
I forget.
That's what I said about my choice.
On this podcast, all you got to say, with all due respect, if you say with all due respect, you could do whatever you want, but you didn't say with all due respect.
So I can I restart?
Yeah, with all due respect, I would love to get up in that.
With all due respect, yo, with all due respect, you already know this is with all due respect.
He wants to get up in your ass, with all due respect.
With all due respect, Betty Boopy.
With all due respect, I think it's an understandable statement.
Yeah.
I think it's her fit for Halloween.
Yeah, yeah.
I watched those clips like 40 times.
The boopy one, Belly Booper.
I don't know if you're going to be able to do it.
So that dresses.
It was a great Halloween.
We are aware.
Halloween Fit for Betty Boop00:10:04
It was a great Halloween.
I went out.
I took my boys out for Halloween.
Oh, yeah.
What'd y'all do?
Wait, the ones that we met?
Yep.
I like those guys.
I heard friends.
I like those guys.
No, the gamer dudes.
Yeah.
They were great.
I take them out to the club.
They were great.
I stayed sober.
Didn't drink.
Rephrase that.
I didn't drink.
What did you do?
I didn't drink.
But what happened?
No, he said if there was any drugs.
No, look at that.
If there were any drugs that happened, I'll tell you for real.
It did happen.
What did happen?
He didn't drink.
Uh-oh, glasses going on.
No.
Okay, well.
I stayed sober.
Okay.
I took the boys out on Halloween.
Lots of girls out.
And I stayed sober and took the boys out.
What was your costume?
I look like a fucking fruit loop of a cop.
Of a cop?
Yeah, it was last minute, went to the Halloween store, the one they put up.
Right.
And I was like, oh, this looks fire.
Like, bitches will like that.
And I put it on.
I was like, fuck the fuck.
Yeah.
I looked like a fruit loop.
Breeno 911 vibes.
YMTA.
Yeah.
I didn't, I still rocked it.
I got hit on a lot, though.
Did you?
By dudes, too.
Yeah, wasn't it?
Was it the fellas?
No, chicks were liking it, though.
Have guys ever tried you?
Tried you?
Oh, yeah.
I'm fucking in the gay community.
And then what's the best pick to find?
He's a twink.
You got twinkling.
It's called Twink.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I went to San Francisco once, and I looked up and, well, I was with Tim too.
And we got looked up and down.
Yeah, that's going to happen.
Yeah.
I mean, I wasn't dressed like this.
Like Tim, dude?
Like a fucking suit.
Yeah, like redhead.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I did lose Tim for a couple hours.
I don't know where he went when we were in San Francisco.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Maybe.
He said I have a phone call.
Oh.
Dude, is Tim like a closet queer ginge?
I mean, that wouldn't be closeted if I said yes.
No, because when we were doing jiu-jitsu, he kept putting me in this choke where he was behind me.
Yeah.
And naked, he called it.
He was called a rear naked.
Yeah, it's called a rear naked.
And I was like, yo, why don't we do some of the leg locks?
He's like, no, this is the beginner.
He kept saying that.
Didn't he let you put him in a triangle too?
That was weird.
That was sus.
He did, but he didn't tap.
He didn't fucking tap.
I wonder why.
He likes that shit.
He might.
He fucking likes it.
But why'd you put your fingers in his throat, though?
No, can I be?
He choked him out internal.
I've never seen that one.
That's fine.
I gave him hind legs.
That's right.
Yo, yeah, but shout out to Tim, bro.
Fucking love you, dude.
The internal joke is crazy.
Is that a legal move?
Can you put your fist in someone's mouth?
Nope.
You can't do fish.
You can't judge it.
No fish hooks.
No fingers in the butt.
No way.
There's some illegal moves I think they could change.
For example, like toe on the gate or toe on the fence or whatever.
You should be able to do that.
Wait, what?
Oh, holding the fence?
Yeah.
No, you can't hold it.
Why not?
I think that's kind of too much leverage.
That'd be kind of fire, actually.
Yeah.
I like that.
They say you're not allowed to do that.
Yeah, you're not allowed to do that.
You're not allowed to kick while someone's down.
That's bullshit.
Put that back in there.
Punk someone's head off, dude.
That would suck.
That would actually be kind of scary if you could get a soccer kick in the head while you're on the ground.
Yeah.
But you can't pride.
In pride.
I don't know if pride's a thing anymore.
One, one.
Yeah.
I mean, it's gnarly to see a dude on his hands and he's just getting punted in the fucking street.
Yeah, that's hard to watch.
That's crazy.
The hammer fist is enough.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wouldn't mind head kicking Cheeto like while he's on the ground or trying to get up.
Just fucking suck.
You really don't like that.
What do you think?
What did he say that made you really?
I think it's his style.
It's how he dresses.
Can we see some images of this guy?
I don't.
I feel like that was cheated.
I thought he was trying to do it that way.
Are there any gays in UFC?
Why you got your hand like that?
You know what I mean?
Come on, right here.
You see that?
Yo, I was about to fight him.
Wait, you think there's gay fighters?
I don't know.
Oh, no, there is.
One guy did come out recently.
Who?
Josh Molina.
That was your perfect opportunity to be like, Cheeto Vera.
No.
Yeah.
Show me like a style of shit.
Tell me you don't think Silio think he's one of my best friends.
That's a sign.
Cheeto is top of the top.
Top of the top.
That one's decent, if anything.
Now you're liking it because it got some color.
Show more.
No, that was decent, if anything.
Oh, the sneakers?
I'm telling you, bro.
I'm telling you that.
No, no, no.
That's good.
That dude looks like a fucking kids play soccer.
He's one of the dads that are hanging out on the field.
What's wrong with that?
That's actually probably extremely funny.
What's wrong with that?
I'm just saying.
You're not going to be a dad.
I'm just saying.
We're talking about style.
He dressed like a grown man.
You are entering the age of being an old dad.
You want how you dress as an old dad to be cool.
Yeah, coming from me, you're doing a lot.
You do it a lot.
Do it a lot.
This is a lot.
It's a lot.
I had GQ today.
I know.
That is kind of fire.
Oh.
You know what I mean?
That's a big shit.
I did live with Mark and Kelly this morning.
Oh, it was live.
And it was live.
There's an audience.
Oh, really?
That was that.
Unlike this.
Have we got an audience?
Come on, we got him run.
It was cool.
It was good.
But yeah, I do some big shit.
I'm a fucking big deal.
You got to dress like a big deal when you're a big fucking deal.
What'd you think of Kelly's husband?
Mark.
Yeah.
Mark.
Yeah, Kelly was hot.
What about Mark?
Oh, yeah, Mark is a different question.
I wanted to ask about Kelly, though.
Mark was a cool dude.
He was a big fan.
Yeah, and we're going to have Jake.
Yeah.
Kelly, she was a beautiful girl.
She looked cute.
Gave her a big hug.
You rip him.
You rip that.
I thought you were killing their last name.
There was a lot in the feet.
Yeah, the chemistry and the hug.
Was there a lot in the hug?
Do you think they're swinging?
I like Mark.
He's a good dude.
You like Mark?
He's a good dude.
Really?
Yeah.
You know, he's a big fan.
Yo, what's the gayest shit you would do without being gay?
Rub another man's feet, maybe?
Oh.
Would you get foot massage of Tim?
No.
If you lost a bet.
Well, I wouldn't make that bet.
Hmm.
What about this?
They called me gay for this like a week ago.
My boy's feet were kind of cold and he was sitting on the couch with me and he put them underneath my thigh to warm him up.
Tell me that's not the gayest shit.
No, no, he was sneaking in the thigh for like five minutes.
But it's your boy.
And his feet are mad cold because he was chilling outside.
His feet are cold.
I get him some socks.
But that's kind of gay.
Whoa.
You put him on?
That's not.
No.
That's gay.
I love the...
You fetch him laundry?
Warming your man's speech.
You're going to go fetch your boy laundry.
Warming your man's speech?
Are you putting him on?
Is he injured?
Are you putting him on?
Okay.
Or you just.
I gotta put his feet on.
All right, his socks on.
Oh, no, you just get him some socks.
If he's like, yo, that's a very big of a die.
We can't get up.
We got some socks.
I'll grab him some socks.
Yeah.
But what if he was just sneaking them under your face?
Like this.
He's just sneaking them under slowly and you keep moving over.
He keeps sneaking them under slowly.
And then eventually you sit on them like a mother bird.
Yeah.
I don't think that's gay, bro.
That's being friendly.
You moved away and he did it again.
Son, he's nesting his toes.
Your friend's gay.
Yeah.
Okay, so it's not gay for me.
Thank you.
Appreciate that.
It's half.
His half.
He's beating him in the middle.
His half.
Come on.
How many times did he try until you finally?
You're more like the receiver when he's.
This is a great question.
If it was less than three, son, he went from the middle of the couch to the end of the couch.
It was exactly thrice.
He tried twice and then he got it under the third time.
But I sat him.
I said, hey, are your feet cold?
He said, yeah, they're pretty chilly.
Do you think he's cute?
I think he's exactly cute.
I think he's cute.
He's cute.
Yeah, he's cute.
Feet are kind of fucked up.
He's a soccer guy.
Yeah, but he's cute, though.
And I would have warmed him up.
I don't think that's that gay, though.
No, it's not that gay.
It's definitely gay.
But grappling in your underwear, I feel like it's gayer.
Right?
If you're wearing under.
Yo, that was a good point.
That was a good point.
I would never do that with my boys, personally.
I took a jiu-jitsu class and one class, and I'm done.
It's too much.
Wait, why?
Why?
It was intimacy?
Yeah, too much.
Do you have a thing with touching?
You hug everybody, but when you say hello, and then you leave.
I think you're just gonna get away.
That's the best love.
If two alphas are going out, it seems we can kill each other.
I think it's pretty fucking.
Well, I think killing has to be part of the equation.
If they live, that's pretty gay.
You can kill them, then you decide not to because you're that fucking.
You want to do it again.
Yeah, but when you're practicing, it's just like.
That is kind of gay.
It's like catch and release with the fish.
You're catch and release.
That's fucked up.
That's what jiu-jitsu is, is catch and release.
Catch and release things fucked up.
Especially with a hole in a fucking fish's mouth for no reason.
Yeah, that's fucked up.
I don't like that.
I really like fishing for that reason.
I don't like when people group that with hunting.
People will be like hunting and fishing.
One of them is like going out and getting something.
The other thing is just like tricking them.
I know my mom used to be like, oh, it's fine.
We're just letting them go.
No, I don't like that.
I've never liked that.
I've never liked that.
We're just don't.
You're just going to put it back in the lake with a whole horse.
You just get heal.
Eat him.
Dude, fish.
How long do you heal?
How long?
Fish probably heal.
How long does it take for a fish to heal?
Two fish.
He probably gets killed.
No, no.
Probably swim sideways.
Yeah.
They draft a little bit.
It's like Michael Phelps.
Yeah.
That's true.
Why?
Did that happen with Phelps?
Yeah, his chin started to protrude a little and then slowed him down.
I thought that that created more like water dynamics.
What is the word?
It was aerodynamic for aqua dynamics.
Aqua dynamics.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hydrodynamic.
Is that why you wear the school cap or the water caps?
Yeah, exactly.
Imagine me trying to swim.
Bro, I love this hair.
It's great.
Yo, fuck it.
Pull up.
No.
No, it's not.
That's some real shit.
I love it.
I like the fro.
Danny did it.
She does my hair, makes sure I look good because I do big shows like live and Mark and Kelly did that this morning.
Damn, bro.
Damn, bro.
Damn this one.
All right, guys, let's take sold out.
Yeah.
90 minutes.
90 minutes.
We added another one.
So sweet.
Honestly.
That shit.
That's crazy.
That's huge.
Yeah, yeah.
Have you ever fought at MSG?
No.
No, they wanted me to bad before I fought.
The dude, Joel, is some like high-up guy was begging me to fight there.
Loves the sugar show.
And, you know, I had my fight booked in Boston already, but I couldn't tell him that.
So I was like, yeah, we'll see.
November's coming around.
Yeah.
But, yeah, no.
MSG.
That's going to be crazy.
Do you go to the dream place to fight?
Like, dream venue?
I don't.
For me, I don't really care, dude.
Boston was cool.
I'm glad I experienced that because even before that, I'm like, I don't really care where to fight.
Boston was really special.
What do they call that arena over there?
Sugar.
Sugar.
They renamed it.
Yeah, it was really cool.
Renaming the Sugar Arena00:10:41
You didn't see that?
That's fucking cool.
Congrats.
They just wanted to think of the whitest thing they could think of.
Sugar.
Proud sugar.
Oh, no, they would never.
They would not.
Not in this.
Damn right.
Have you tried to MD Garden?
It's called the T oh it's called the Garden as well.
TV Garden.
Interesting.
Oh, yeah.
That's crazy, huh?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so.
Have you fought in Abu Dhabi?
I did last October.
Oh, dude, how dope is Abu Dhabi?
It was crazy.
I was there for three weeks before the fight to acclimate.
And so I didn't really get to do too much because I was finishing out fight camp, cutting away, doing all that.
And then went to Dubai for a day, and then I came back.
Why'd you go kind of laughing like that?
Why'd you kind of say that?
You laughed in like a nefarious way as if something really crazy happened in Dubai.
I almost feel like something wild must have happened.
I bet you Tim did something.
But what did Tim did?
Tell us what Tim.
No, Tim's like Christian.
Oh, Jesus.
Or Jehovah.
Sorry.
Wait, is he really?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah.
But like one of the boys Christians?
No, no, they're Jehovah's.
But they're part of the umbrella of Christianity.
No.
Well, they're not Jews.
You can be Christian and then you can be another religion under it?
Of course.
That's not how it works.
Let me explain this.
Let me explain that.
He's kind of got a point with this.
You can't be this religion and then you're under this religion.
Of course.
What is a Lutheran?
Is that not a Christian?
They all believe in Jesus.
It's like you're the military, but you can still be in the Navy or the Army or whatever.
That's not how it works, boys.
They got your nerve.
Keep fighting.
I got baptized, boys.
Yeah, never.
I understand.
As a he's back.
Christian.
You're a Christian.
Yeah.
But you don't see.
No, I genuinely don't understand how that works.
We know.
We know.
So what are you?
I am.
Technically speaking.
No, truly speaking.
What do I actually believe?
Yeah.
I'm Pakistani.
That's not a religion.
I'm a pilot.
That's crazy.
I am pilot.
What do you believe in?
I am Jesus.
Pilot.
Do I believe in what?
Pocket Jesus.
What's his name?
What's the calling?
Pocket Jesus.
What do you call your religion?
I don't want a Paka Jesus.
I believe in Paka Jesus.
Yeah.
I believe 100%.
No, like, who do I believe in?
I probably believe in more Christian stuff than any other religion.
Well, you can see like one or the other.
I don't think you can really pick like, oh, I believe in some of this.
But also, like, the Muslims are kind of right.
I use like one or the other.
Well, they do that.
Do they?
Yeah.
They say Jesus was a prophet.
They believe in all this shit.
But that's like multiverse stuff.
Like, they have him in their multiverse.
And we have, you know what I mean?
There's like hybrid stuff.
Because the Jews started it.
The Christians were like, yo, you're being a little bit too much about it.
Let's be a little chill.
And then the Muslims were like, nah, let's be serious again.
I think that Abraham.
But they all believe in the Jewish shit.
Christians just believe in the Jewish shit and their shit.
And then Muslims believe in the Christian shit and the Jewish shit.
I think it's crazy to think one way is right, but I also think it's crazy to think nothing's out there.
She's got to be right in the middle.
I'm like, I don't know.
Did you just tell me I couldn't do that?
Yeah, that was you really.
I don't know if you know what you did.
Two sentences ago, you were like, you can't pick and choose.
No, I'm saying you can't be like, I'm this religion and this religion.
I'm no religion.
I don't know any of them.
You're not religious at all.
No.
We believe in God generally.
I think God is everything.
The universe.
Yeah.
Nah, I vibe with that.
No, I do.
I think there's something to it, but I think all the religious stuff is fucking crazy.
The more successful you've gotten, the more of a believer or the less.
Believer in what?
Just like that there's something out there.
I feel like there's something guiding my life for sure.
I have to, right?
And has that gotten stronger or stronger?
Okay, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, it makes sense.
But I also like, that's just crazy when first of all, that's a good, healthy reaction.
Yeah.
Because I think the people that go, the more successful they get, and they're like, there's definitely no religion.
That's like a screaming narcissism.
They're like, this is only because I'm great.
Oh, I'm God.
I'm God.
Exactly.
And the people that get successful.
Well, I don't think I'm not.
Yeah.
But if God is everywhere, God is in you.
So you are God.
That's gay.
That was gay.
So no, that's Hinduism.
That's literally Hinduism, I think, right?
Yeah.
Did you try to put your fucking mud to religion?
Bro, don't convert my boy.
This is what good ideologists have.
You know, you can put mud on Indians, not on the religion.
All right, convert my boy.
Because you're still talking about some Muslims if you talk about Indians.
So what religion would you claim to be?
Again, what'd you say?
I wouldn't claim that I'm religious.
But I would say that I would probably adhere to more Christian things than any other one.
I celebrate Christmas.
I would celebrate Easter.
I don't know if I celebrate it, but I would do that.
Do you celebrate Ramadan?
I usually do a day a year of Ramadan.
So 5% Muslim.
You do a couple of things.
That's really, you're really bad at the time.
I even go to some Shabbat dinners, bro.
That's what I'm saying.
Damn, bro.
I'm really out there.
You know what?
They all believe in the same God, and so do I. That's my God.
Whatever God those Abrahamic religions believe in, that's what I believe in.
Allah, Yahweh, God.
Run it back.
I see you.
I see you.
Yeah, we run it back.
Interesting.
Hashem.
Yeah.
Hashem.
That's a Bible.
So wait, you never celebrated Tim's birthday?
Is that what you're trying to tell me?
Tim's birthday.
Yeah, he's Jehovah's Witness.
Jehovah's Witness.
He's not anymore, but he definitely.
You don't give him presents or anything like that?
No, I do.
Didn't he grow up in a carnival?
His parents met in a carnival, and yeah, when they're like 16, but he was Jehovah's Witness.
What were their roles in the carnival?
Were they like selling tickets or were they like exhibits?
No, I don't know.
See, we need Tim here.
With all due respect.
With all due respect.
But with all due respect, I know what they are.
I don't know.
I'm assuming that.
So you're saying your friend grew up in a fucking carnival and you never asked.
I definitely, he's told me.
I don't remember what the fuck they were.
But it was, yeah, it must not have been that cool.
Damn.
Fuck.
You go to rides.
Would you go do those?
Yeah.
They're dangerous.
Yeah, they're that's the fun part.
You get kicked in the head for money.
Yeah.
For money.
You get paid to go on a fucking rides.
You lose money if you do that fucking loop to loose.
Okay.
All right.
I get pay-per-view points next.
So make sure you guys tune in.
Buy a pay-per-view March.
Oh, is this your first fight with UFC 299?
Big big money or what?
Well, last fight was big, big money, but this one's going to be a lot of money.
No, I can't.
It's public, ain't it?
No.
I mean, there's numbers out there, but it's definitely not close.
Yours is more or less.
Wait, what's the number that's out there?
I think it said like 400,000 or something.
And would you say that it's more by like UFC 299?
March.
Buy the pay-per-view.
Would you say it's more by a multiple of like two?
Two.
Two or ten?
What are we closing?
Two, three.
I mean, you're the, you're the, what is it called?
The golden goose?
Is that a million?
I'm like, once you get to three, he can't do the math.
So you just give him big numbers.
I didn't do good in high school.
You didn't?
No.
You didn't do well yet.
I didn't do well.
Is that what I'm saying?
That's what they say.
Superman dudes.
I like that.
I like that.
Put him through the bag.
You know what?
They say they call people that do that something.
What do they call that?
When they correct your grammar?
Douchebag?
Yeah.
Then you call them something, not know-it-alls.
Yeah.
I don't even know how to get it.
We came in all this down there.
There's a guy wearing the Richard Millet wash or whatever.
Nah, grammar Nazi.
Grammar Nazi.
Yeah, he's a Nazi, technically.
I am technically a Nazi.
Technically.
The Nazis took his shit.
The swastika is originally from India.
That is true.
Yeah, they really fucked it up.
Really?
Yeah.
So just tell people that when they see it above your bed, just be like, I'm Hindu supporting my Indian friends.
That's crazy.
So it meant something else first.
Isn't that crazy?
It means what is it?
Freedom, equality.
Shut up.
What does it mean?
So I can get a swastika.
Good fortune is what I thought.
I could get a tattoo.
You could technically get it tatted.
It depends who tats it, though.
And where?
Yeah.
Right here.
Freedom.
Yeah, I guess technically.
Dude, that's a good guy, though.
Oh, that's a good point.
You know, yo, good point.
Damn, that was a good question.
No, I'm not getting his walks out.
I met an Indian dude one time.
He like loved the pod.
He was like, dude, great to meet you.
I was like, I didn't love the pods.
He's actually bad.
I would be mad if it was bad.
That wasn't.
He was actually Australian.
He's like, dude, you love the pod?
You know?
Yeah, yeah.
It's wild.
It's happening to be Indian.
But his name was Swastik.
Have you ever seen this?
That's no, I mean, that makes sense.
Indian dude named Swastik.
And he was like 20.
I was like, we don't care.
That's our shit.
But look at the history, bro.
So, where we lived in Jersey, Mad Indians, and I just saw it on multiple doors.
And it's also like, there's so many Indians and we got it.
But I walk by it every day, never thought of thing.
Why do you, why is this?
I obviously don't know a shit about religion or history, but obviously the Holocaust happened with all the Jews.
He acknowledged it happened.
That's good.
No, no, no.
He acknowledged it happened.
Can you get wrong?
Give him a second.
Give him a second.
There's a lot of YouTube commenters like, no, it didn't.
Right now.
Manager is standing over there and he's holding himself.
No, it's because he's Muslim and he's very happy about what he's about to do.
He's on to something.
He's on to something.
I don't want this to be fucked up.
He's got this.
Okay, go, go.
I was going to say, why is this the war happening right now?
Why are they attacking the Jews?
Why, what's up with the Jews that everyone wants to get rid of them?
Why are they trying to be fucked up?
I can't hype it.
It's just such a funny question.
Like, yo, what are they doing over there?
Is that not what they're trying to do?
No, it's funny.
They're trying to take out what is it about the Jews that someone should do is we should have you talk to Dove, our friend, for about an hour, and then you'll get it.
Oh, God.
But then there's a whole scuffle over there.
This whole thing.
Did you ever have any Jewish friends growing up?
No.
Never.
Have you ever met a Jew?
I don't think that.
The fact that you looked at Alex is very nice to you, to be honest.
Like a real Jew?
What's a real one?
Look at the Yamaka.
Oh, like they got the Pentana.
That's really good.
Yeah, yeah.
They flag it.
Yeah.
No, you got to wrap this up.
Yeah.
I don't think I've ever met.
Oh, Ariel Lawani.
Isn't he Jewish?
He is.
He is.
He is very Jewish.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He is Moroccan Jew.
Oh, from Montreal.
He's almost like Dove.
Like Dove, yes.
Matter of fact, Tanya and Ariel's sister went to school together.
Holy shit.
Who's Ariel?
Ariel is the person you're talking about.
Yeah, did you forget?
What's you said?
Ariel.
You're a goldfish.
He had an interesting pronunciation.
I think it was.
Oh, I pronounced it differently.
You didn't forget.
Well, Ariel and Ariel could be two different people.
That is true.
That is absolutely true.
Ariel?
That's weird.
Ariel.
You call him Ariel.
Yeah.
I would say Ariel.
What do you call him beyond the nipple?
Ariola.
Suck.
I remember learning that in high school.
I think it is so funny.
Yeah.
Isn't there a song?
I said, like, Ariola.
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No, I know.
What is it?
That's what I was thinking.
I thought it was hoop.
There it is.
That's one.
Ariola.
You thought so.
Ariela?
That is the lyrics.
Look at Al's face right now.
I don't know if you played around.
No, that's horrible.
You thought that.
Little baby's my favorite rapper.
Nah, he's a little baby.
No.
I haven't.
But he's probably my favorite right now.
Why?
I don't know.
Shit's hard.
Just vibes, right?
Yeah, it's hard.
Have you seen his concert?
No, I haven't.
I would like to.
Bro, you got to pull up.
That would be crazy.
You got to pull up.
Tickets are probably available.
Come on, our god.
My god is a hater, dude.
My show, too.
Our gods is a hater, dude.
Oh, because it's probably not sold out like your show.
Have you been doing No Note November?
What's today?
Today's November.
How often do you let it go?
Dude, it's been more than less now lately.
It's been bad.
I understood exactly what you said.
Lil Babe.
The way that you describe it, I understood it perfectly.
I think it's because I'm.
He's rapping like little baby.
Martin Leibniz.
It's been a lot.
Wait, like two weeks?
Huh?
No, since I do.
I've been busting a lot.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
What is the appetite?
So he said the opposite of what you thought just been.
It's been more than less.
Yeah, yeah.
Four days out of the week, roughly.
Right?
Four days?
Yeah, but I would say Sav been.
You fuck everybody.
No, sometimes I fuck.
Sometimes I hit it with a small hooker.
You stroke that little baby, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, the clicker.
I stroked clicker.
No, sometimes I'll jack off.
You sometimes jack off.
To get my mind right.
I got to focus.
Is that part of meditation?
You don't feel like it makes you tired, though.
It is meditation.
It does.
Sometimes it just kind of wears you out.
I'm about to get back on track, though.
When I'm in training camp, I only do it twice a week just to keep that energy, keep that cheek levels high.
Do you believe that?
I heard it's the opposite.
Dude.
Dead ass.
I heard if you jerk off more, it produces more testosterone because your balls are actually pumping to create more.
No, I don't think that's true.
From experience.
I know if I bust more, I definitely don't have as much energy than if I hold that shit in.
Sometimes if I hold that shit in for like three, four days, I'll bark at a girl.
Yeah.
She walks by.
Yeah, for that.
Yeah, I do that.
Oh, you, what breed?
You give her like a like a golden?
I like Black Lab.
You go Black Lab on her.
Black Lab.
Oh, hell yeah.
Oh, I thought I meant girls.
No, yeah, I gotta get a sometime.
But if you hold that in, you go something about it.
For training, like before sparring, three days, no nut.
Before sparring, that dog's on me.
What's going to be your non-fight thing?
Live shows.
Like live Mark Kelly.
I did that this morning.
I probably do stuff like that.
Stupid.
She's going to do morning television.
Yeah.
That's going to be your stick.
The sugar shit.
Filtered too.
Not crazy.
Filtered.
Family-friendly.
What did they ask you?
It was six minutes and it wasn't long enough.
It was just family-friendly, you know, very demographics, older lady.
Did you try to insert some shit in there or did you play ball?
I played ball.
Okay, so what did they ask you about?
Making weight, like, how do you go from 160 to 135?
Jerking off.
No, I didn't say that.
They asked me about something about my tattoos.
Talked about the fight coming up.
March, pay-per-view, USA 299.
Doesn't it feel corny?
Saying what?
Just doing those shows.
It feels like you got to play a character.
Yeah.
But I was about it.
I'm trying to get some, you know, you don't know what MILFs are watching.
That shit.
I was trying to do that.
That's a good point.
I was trying to, you know, check my DMs later.
And?
No, I will be checking them later.
What if one?
You got to check Facebook messages.
Yeah.
That's where the bell is.
That's right.
Yeah.
I don't fucking.
I need to get off.
I don't really fuck with Facebook much anymore.
You're missing a lot of old homes.
Bro, there's a ton of MILFs, a plethora of MILFs on Facebook.
I do like MILFs, though, because it's kind of, it's just like easier for like no strings attached types.
You want no strings attached?
Yeah.
Obviously.
Yeah.
You can put strengths.
Play video games with the kids.
I've been playing Madden lately.
With the kids of the MILF she bang?
No, Call of Duty.
Oh, hell yeah, dude.
Headshot.
Like your mom.
Whoa, whoa, Joe.
You never said that when you're game with one of them.
Like, I begged your mom, literally.
No, yeah, Call of Duty, old school, before you used to stream.
Oh, dude.
The stuff you could say.
You let it all go.
Oh, everything.
You got to let it out somewhere.
A lot of nimbles?
I've never said that.
I heard some of those chat rooms leaked.
Like apparently this week, like some of like the recordings from those like Call of Duty lobbies leaked.
Did you hear that?
Like recently leaked, huh?
Yeah.
From recent games or old school Call of Duty like Modern Warfare 2.
Yeah, it's all archived.
I don't know if you know that.
A lot of it leaked, apparently, dude.
Well, you guys don't even know which name I had.
My name was crazy, probably.
I don't know what it was.
What was it?
I feel like you remember exactly what it was.
It's like sugar, one, two, three.
Never get stopped.
Oh, no.
No.
What was my fucking name?
My little brothers was Ty, T-I-E, knee, K-N-E-E, P-P, Ty, Ni, P, P.
Oh, that's kind of good.
That was kind of good one, but I don't remember what mine was.
It's probably something just like generic.
You're not going to branch out at all?
You're not going to play any other games.
You play Last of Us?
I haven't been gaming at all.
I haven't really been gaming.
I've played a couple games of Madden here and there, but I haven't been gaming anymore.
Retired after I fought Peter, got the title shot, said I'm done.
So what are you doing?
I've been gaming.
Just jacking off.
No, I still go to the, I've been going to the gym once a day, training.
What's outside of fighting?
What's after that?
Like, I'm trying to understand.
Just walk us through the rest of your fight career, then what comes after?
Because you clearly have your fight career laid out in your brain.
You're buying real estate.
Like, you're making moves.
You're not a dumb guy.
Like, you're preparing for life after fighting.
So I want to know what.
You want to be a billionaire.
Is that really important to you?
Not really important, but that's kind of where my head's.
You want generational wealth.
You want the money that you never have to work again.
Your kids never have to work again and their kids don't have to work again.
I mean, that's one way to look at it.
I just want to be a billionaire.
Just to say it?
So freaking bad.
On the cover of Ford magazines.
You know that song?
Forb magazines?
This guy's a singer, bro.
Yeah.
You can tell he's a singer, dude.
When he busts out this dude.
But yeah, I don't know.
I just think it's the investment stuff is interesting.
I want to learn more about it.
Emeron and I have been having conversations with a lot of people that are in that space to see where we can invest more money and, you know, learn about that game.
Is there an amount of money that you would make where you would stop fighting?
Let's say your fight with...
I don't think I'll make that amount of money until after fighting.
But if I made, I don't know.
That's a good question.
I don't know.
Let's say you have $100 million in the bank right now.
Do you take another fight?
I fight Cheeto for sure.
Outside of that?
Outside of that, $100 million.
I love performing, dude, and I can't sing yet.
So I feel like I would fight.
So you need to scratch that itch, in other words.
I have to perform right now while I'm this age.
Because I know for a fact when I get older that if I don't take as much, squeeze as much fucking life out of my late 20s, early 30s, if I don't take, just do as much as possible in this athletic form that I'll regret it.
We had Jason Williams on.
Do you know who Jason Williams is?
So Jason Williams, White Chocolate, was one of the most influential NBA players back in the day when I was growing up.
And way, way long time ago.
But he was talking about how difficult it was to leave basketball.
And he's like, I'm playing.
It's like, I can only play so much golf.
Like, I'm playing golf nonstop.
He has to fill that void that like was his life.
Yeah.
And I'm always curious with professional athletes if you think about what that will be.
Yeah, I definitely do.
I think, you know, if my body can still hold up, I think I can still do jiu-jitsu, still compete.
But it's going to be hard because I feel like at that point, I'm going to be so popular.
So, like, it'll be hard to just go to like a competition and just compete without it being some crazy fucking thing.
Yep.
You know?
So, yeah, I don't know.
I love what Floyd does.
I love that Floyd takes exhibitions.
He's older, still keeps in good shape, goes and smokes these dudes.
So I think boxing, like there's for whatever reason, like.
So you need the competition and you need to entertain.
Dude, what about WWE?
Yeah, why not?
That's definitely could be a possibility.
That'd be cool, right?
Yeah, that would be cool.
It's not competition.
Yeah, but it is.
It's entertaining.
But it's entertaining.
It's athletic.
It's athletic.
It's entertaining.
And there's still kind of high stakes.
And there's kind of a competition.
I feel like there's almost like a performance and like charm competition.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like it's like you have a competition coming over the crowd.
Yeah, yeah.
It's not a competition like I'm going to beat you in this thing because that's predetermined, but I'm going to beat you and I'm the crowd.
Yeah.
I'm going to put on better performance.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a, that's interesting.
I never really thought about that.
I don't know.
I think a lot of it is the competit, the true competition, the true competition.
I think I do enjoy business.
I will continue business forever.
I wonder if you can transfer it into that.
Like, I've seen athletes do that a lot.
Kobe did that.
Kobe did that recipes and also Magic Chunky.
But he was still balling, right?
No, he'd retired.
When he finished, made it all ambition to improve.
That's right.
See, he had his daughters that he was, you know, coaching.
So I feel like there's that competitiveness with being a coach.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't.
I feel like it's all going to.
Sometimes you have to think about it.
My life's played out so perfectly right now.
Like, I feel like if I just go with the flow and, you know, keep making, start making better decisions.
Is there ever a time where you like are at a fight and you see older UFC guys and it scares you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But those guys trained different.
Those guys lived.
Those guys sparred every fucking session.
Do you think that's what is taking the years off your 100%, dude?
Sparring is brutal.
I haven't sparred once in my fight.
I'm not going to spar until I get into camp.
I sparred you before.
That was before that.
Oh, I prepared you for that.
That was in camp.
I did preparing.
I appreciate that.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's preparation.
Okay.
So yeah, sparring is brutal for those guys too back then.
Yeah.
Yeah, Rogan says that as well.
He was like, especially the heavyweight guys.
It's like you're going in there with dudes that are concussing you and sparring.
Yeah.
You're not even getting rocked.
Even if you go 70%, you're still getting trusted.
Oh, yeah.
I've been fucked up early on in sparring when I moved to the lab when I was like 20, 21.
Like sparring hard as fuck, trying to still make a name for myself, trying to still like, you know, still learning.
And I feel like it was important at that age and at that stage.
Whoa.
See, I do got bars at that age, at that stage.
No, that's the black.
There's a brown sugar.
Yeah.
There's a Max Holloway.
I feel like he almost started a trend.
I feel like I heard that, but I feel like he also actually spars in camp.
Oh, really?
Saying that?
I feel like he came out.
I don't think he was lying.
I think he came out and said that to kind of be funny because it was COVID.
He was saying, I don't spar.
And I like Max.
I'm not trying to call him out, but I feel like he definitely still spars in camp.
Like, you're telling me he doesn't spar.
Maybe he does a kind of like light work, polite sparring.
What I'm trying to understand is just coming from like, you know, watching boxers for years, every boxer has basically said, in order for me to get my timing right, I need to be sparred.
But then MMA guys go, oh, we don't need to exactly spar in camp.
I have to spar before a fight, but I do not have to spar when I don't have a fight booked.
I need like, honestly, take my first session back.
Sometimes I'm like, whoo, like off a little bit.
I mean, what's off?
Just like the timing's off.
It's just, you play.
Do you play any other sports?
You play basketball ever?
Dude, I would love to get on like a basketball league or go to the gym, play basketball.
I just can't risk it, dude.
Can't.
No, no, no.
I'm saying like you've played a grown-up.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
You know, when you haven't played ball for a minute, you're like dribble is a little off.
Is that what Sparring is like?
Okay, which I am nervous about because Knicks, tomorrow, I'm going to go and I got to go shoot around with the guys before the game.
Oh, fine.
I'm going to try to show out.
Yeah.
I'm going to try to.
I'm going to try to be like, is that going to happen?
But I haven't played in a long time.
So I'm going to be like, real fucking off.
I got a jacket for you.
Do you have anything that you're wearing?
All right.
Look at me.
But you need some Knicks stuff.
You need to show respect.
I think they have a...
I literally asked the one that's doing it on my PR to ask the Knicks if I got like a full sweat warm-up suit, shorts, jersey.
I asked for it all.
I want to ball out.
All right, I'm going to grab you some.
You probably wouldn't even be able to tell who if you got a pick and everyone's lined up on the court.
Say who's not actually...
You probably couldn't even tell.
Yeah.
Yeah, they'd assume that you played for the Knicks.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
I would love to do that.
100%.
I thought you were Julius Randall when you walked in.
I act as funny.
You're the second guy that said that.
That's funny, man.
I'm just worried about...
What are you worried about, man?
Yeah, what are you saying?
Taking over.
I'm a little worried about that too, bro.
Thank you, dude.
Thank you.
I'm not worried.
These guys are lacking.
He's so stressed about the AI.
I'm not stressed.
I'm definitely not stressed.
He's stressed.
I'm stressed.
He's having trouble sleeping.
Elon fucking flew to London.
Remember, you listen to Rogan?
Elon flew to London to talk about AI safety, so we're good.
Yeah.
You trust him?
You think he's got us?
Elon?
Yeah.
I trust the process, baby.
Yeah.
Elon, what got me here?
Trust it.
We're here, baby.
I have a question, and we can cut it if you don't like it.
But have you heard the conspiracy that the UFC is rigging fights with people like you and Patty?
Because they need more faces of the.
We definitely have to cut it.
I mean, I'm living it right now.
So if someone's rigging it, I mean, I guess, like, so who would be the one to rig it?
What's the conspiracy?
So it's like they don't have enough faces of the organization.
So it's like they're trying to prop guys a lot of charisma and they're really not sell fights.
So is the argument that they would have paid Al Joe to?
I don't know.
I just saw the conspiracy online.
I feel like you've seen that.
I feel like that's always kind of been a thing every once in a while when something happens.
They're like, oh, it's crazy.
But the thing, you're right about UFC needing stars right now.
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That's why I feel like I'm in such a fucking good position.
Because I do feel like, I mean, you could argue I'm not the number one guy right now, but I think once this next fight happens, plays out, I win.
I will be the biggest guy in the UFC.
And by the end of the year, I'll be the biggest athlete in sports by the end of 2024.
But I do think, I definitely don't think the UFC is rigged.
I don't even understand how that would be.
But they need stars, and I'm right fucking there.
All right, guys, we're going.
And we're back.
Babies, how old?
Atlanta just turned three November 3rd, a couple days ago.
Yeah, she feels like you can hang out with her now.
It's like she's kind of copying what I say.
She hasn't said anything bad yet because I need to get better at watching what I say.
Yeah, you're a mirror.
Yeah, but I'm also like, if she drops an F-bomb, whatever.
Like, it's just a word.
Fuck it.
Yeah.
No, I'm just kidding.
I definitely try to watch it.
Is the personality starting to shine through?
Oh, yeah.
She's, bro, she's sassy.
I feel like just little girl, little princesses are.
She's definitely a little spoiled too.
So it's like she's sassy.
Yeah.
Try not, it's like so hard if she wants a fucking applesauce.
Or no, she wants if she wants like a popsicle in the morning.
And I'm like, Atlanta, it's you can't have a popsicle for breakfast.
Like, she'll freak out.
But is it hard not to just spoil her?
Yeah, it is.
But it's also, it is, but it's also like, I know what giving her a popsicle in the morning would do.
It's like, that's not good for you.
So you got a little fucking sugar rush in the morning.
Like, let's eat some eggs from our chickens.
Yeah.
You know, some healthy, good quality eggs.
We're trying to, you know.
What about toys and stuff?
What if she just wants things?
Hard to say no.
Yeah.
If we go to a store, she'll grab something and she gets it.
No, yeah.
There's no like, no, no, we can't get that.
That's not a thing.
Are grandparents helping out?
Gross parents?
Grandparents?
Yep.
Danny's mom's like our full-time nanny.
And then Danny's sister has two young kids, her age, that she loves, loves going over there.
And then my mom lives close.
So she's.
What is it like seeing your mom with your daughter?
Oh, it's cool.
She loves it.
She has a whole playroom just for her.
Is it wild seeing them be grandpa?
You're like, where was this with me?
What do you mean?
Like, what I've heard a lot of times about grandparents is you get all of the love, but none of the responsibility or discipline.
So they just fucking drape you with love.
Yeah.
Spoil you.
And you look at your mom, you're like, hold on, you were telling me I got to go do my homework and all this other shit.
Yeah.
Have you seen that with her or is she trying to teach you how to parent a little bit?
I think just three's such a young age that it's just like, we'll see when she gets a little bit older.
Right now, you're all kind of just spoiling her.
Right now, she's just so perfect and cute.
But I have this swing outside my house.
Big, huge trees.
The weather right now is perfect.
So like probably four or five times a week, I'll go out there.
I'll know what time, like when she gets tired.
Like if she's not tired, she's not going to take a nap.
But when she gets tired, we'll go out there and swing back and forth and she'll take a nap like 30 minutes on my chest.
Just like knocked out.
That's the best shit ever, bro.
That tops everything.
That's like very peaceful.
That's the best.
Yeah.
Did she surprise you?
Like when she knows something or says something, you're like, where the hell did you learn?
She said, what the heck the other day?
That was funny.
You just spin around.
She'll repeat things that you've said.
Oh, yeah.
Danny said she said something.
She said she said something today.
I forget what it was.
Cheetah's the best dress in a UFC.
Did she say that?
No, but I am.
Yeah, fatherhood's been good.
She keeps me very good.
The best feeling you've ever experienced.
Yeah, those naps outside.
Just like, yeah, those naps outside.
Her drooling on me, like her cheeks just kind of fat, just laying on me.
That's the best, yeah.
And it makes sense why you're not streaming as much.
Like what you were just saying.
Yeah, I quit streaming.
Because if you're basically like, okay, I'm going to stream for three hours, make a couple more in this swing and just feel the best feeling ever.
Yeah.
Well, it's fun too.
Now I can take her to the gym and like hit mitts with Tim and she'll run around or watch, like she can go sit back in the back and watch Cocomelon or something.
So I can take her now with me, which is really cool.
That's fun.
You know, just take her with me, sit in the car, get in her little car seat, and hang out with her.
Yeah.
And they learn everything from absorbing it.
It's just watching.
Yeah, I always say that.
Like, I don't think my parents told me much, but I observed them.
Did they talk to you?
That makes a lot of sense.
Talk to other people.
So it's going to fill the air.
No, but like, it's one of those things where I was like, wow.
Yeah.
They didn't really discipline.
They didn't tell me how to be a person.
I just kind of watched them.
So anything you tell them, it just goes one of the other.
They're just going to see how you treat Danny.
They're going to see how you treat other people.
Exactly.
They're going to expect discipline.
Yeah, I thought, man.
So, yeah, it's a trip.
There's only one baby right now, right?
One baby right now.
More, are you thinking?
It's so weird.
Like, I have this desire to have so much.
Like, it's, I think, I feel like I've always had it.
I just want to fucking tribe.
Like how many.
Shoot the club up, bro.
Shoot it up.
I don't know if that's how you say that.
That's how we say it over here.
Shoot the club up.
With all due respect.
With all due respect.
You got to shoot the club.
But it's tricky because it's like Danny definitely is good with one.
What?
And I am good with one too because there is so much.
I felt like that.
That was a little racist.
Yeah, that was a little race.
Racism.
I'm just saying.
I felt like that was a good one.
I was a little girl with just one shit.
She, when we first met, she didn't want kids.
So you convinced to get one going.
They just happened.
It was an accident.
Oh, really?
You know what's crazy?
It was such an accident that I'm like, still, I'm like, you gotta check on 23 and me, bro.
Are you gonna, are you gonna?
I should.
No.
No, she's, she got them curly fucking locks, boy.
For his wife.
She's not Mexican if she was.
She looked at the rest of 23 people.
I was wild.
You crazy.
I was sucking his dog.
I was like, this guy's crazy.
She's definitely, the reason she didn't want kids, though, is because she's so Mexican that she basically raised her siblings.
So she had five brothers.
And then who did she get with?
A white.
A white.
A horny white.
Yeah.
She miscalculated.
Yeah.
She's like, he's only going to want one kid for sure.
Yeah, but you're Irish.
So do you want like a little boy though?
Like, just throw one more, a little Seanald.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, I go back and forth.
I'm like, I could be good with one, but then there's something in me that's like, let's have 10.
Seriously.
That was my turn.
I battle that.
You're bringing your girl to the gym where she wants to get into fighting.
You let her have my little princess?
Yeah.
Hell no.
That would be hard for me.
That would be hard for me.
I think she will do jiu-jitsu.
I think jiu-jitsu will be required.
I think that will be.
Yeah.
I think jiu-jitsu will be.
It's just jiu-jitsu so good for those kids, even because Tim has a huge kids' class.
And just seeing those kids, and that's so good for him.
Just learning how to...
This is the confidence you get from jiu-jitsu, understanding your body.
I just think it's important.
I think jiu-jitsu should be taught in schools.
100%.
So she'll do that.
As far as fighting, boxing, MMA, I mean, if it's her passion, there's nothing really you can do about it because you can only find, I mean, you only, you're lucky if you find one passion.
So if that's like, this is what I want to do, for me to tell her no, I wouldn't do that, but I would really hope it's not fucking fighting.
I hope it's hair.
Danny does hair.
I mean, like, that's safe.
You can cut yourself.
She cuts herself with her scissors sometimes.
So I mean, I can handle that.
But yeah, I knock out Cheetos.
Get back to that question.
Yeah, later in the fight.
Oh, you think it will go a little?
Yeah.
He's tough.
Dude, he's very durable.
Very tough.
Cheeto's tough.
Yeah.
So I'm not going in there expecting him to, you know.
What do you think he's going to try to do with you?
I mean, he's going to try to kick my legs.
But that's kind of like been a lot of the guys' game plans.
Kick my legs.
I think he's just going to hope his cardio outlasts mine and just be durable and try to get a finish later in the fight.
Probably will be his game plan.
What's the most exhausted you've been in the fight?
Peter?
Either Peter or my UFC debut.
My debut was crazy.
Yeah.
I was fucking, bro, that fight was crazy.
Do you think it was just the fact of your first fight or the nerves maybe made you more?
I think, well, I was eating a vegan diet at the time and I wasn't eating.
I wasn't eating how I should have been for a UFC fighter.
I should have been eating more.
And it was my first fight that went three five-minute rounds as a pro.
It went the distance.
And I just, you know, I trained as hard as I could at the time, but looking back, I could have done a lot more.
But that fight was crazy.
Like the first round, I thought it was that first, one of my, my UFC debut against Terry on Ware is one of my favorite fights to go back and watch.
It was so entertaining.
I was hitting such sweet shit.
And the first round I was piecing up, doing something crazy.
Second round, I completely gassed out.
Just like was dead tired.
And then the third round, I hit a second wind and came up back on and finished that fight.
That fight, I was, that was one of my favorite fights.
So what is the difference?
Sorry, go ahead.
What is just from just from doing a little boxing, like sparring back in the day?
There is nothing more demoralizing and vulnerable than having no cardio and two more minutes left to come out.
What is that like in the professional fight?
The cardio is gone.
You're exhausted.
Where is your brain going?
I feel like I've trained.
I feel like you prepare in those camps.
You get there in training.
You get that time.
So you're comfortable with the exhaustion.
Yeah.
You're comfortable having nothing left to give.
Well, it's either you quit or you keep going.
And do you go, okay, I'm just defending right now?
I'm just protecting myself.
Well, sometimes the best way to kind of get a break is be offensive, kind of, you know.
It's not like fear taking over or anything like that.
It's a comfortable state.
Yeah, it's tricky.
It's like, I mean, it's hard to think about how you're thinking because you're just doing it.
You're just being.
Yeah, you're fight or flight.
And I feel like I always knew I had the dog in me, or some people, you don't know if they do or not.
And that was a big question for me going, or for a lot of people going into that Peter Jan fight.
About you.
Like, does he have that dog?
When he gets in a bad position, is he going to still fight?
Which I thought I proved when I broke my foot in my second fight.
I snapped the top of my foot out of Liz Frank's surgery and I was hopping on one foot.
I thought that was enough to prove that I had the dog in me.
But I still wasn't very popular at the time.
So I don't think a lot of people saw that fight.
But that Peter Jan fight, yeah, I got to show that because he rocked me hard in the second round.
That fight was a war.
I got to prove it.
How much does the camp change when you're adding two extra rounds?
Like five versus three?
Yeah, that was an interesting camp last camp, especially because I was dealing with a rib injury.
So it was like, I wasn't even able to do, I thought I was going to be able to do five, fives in sparring, in MMA.
I did five, fives just kickboxing.
I was able to kickbox, but I wasn't able to do any MMA for the like last six weeks.
So I didn't actually go in.
I didn't do for the five-fives, but I would add extra rounds hitting mitts or extra sprints than I would have if it was a three-round fight.
So it was just more, more work.
How bad does the injury have to be to call it off?
I assume everybody's injured in every training camp.
Yeah.
If I wasn't the main event and that fight wasn't, that was Boston.
That fight was meant for me.
That fight was the Sugar Show.
So if it wasn't that, I probably would have pulled out.
I couldn't grapple at all for six weeks.
And you're going up against it.
Couldn't even clinch.
It was competitive advantage against who should be.
The strongest guy grappling the division.
Wow.
I know.
I hate bringing that up because it looks like, I don't know, it just sounds douchey.
But it was just, that was the reality of it.
I couldn't grapple.
And it was, yeah.
So I went.
What was it?
Broke your rib?
No, I didn't break my rib.
It was just like a muscle strain in there.
So it's like you literally, have you ever hurt your ribs?
Yeah.
It sucks.
Bro, it's just muscular, you can't move at all.
You can't breathe without pain.
It is.
It was horrible.
I could hit mitts.
I could kickbox.
I just couldn't do any kind of clinch, any touching.
So I probably would have pulled out if it wasn't the main event.
And is it nervous in the locker room going into a fight?
Really?
Calm.
That's why I'm so excited for the documentary to come out because they were in the back the whole time with me.
Are you ever surprised at how calm you are?
Or are you like, oh, I should feel more nervous when I'm actually locked in right now?
No, I'm just calm.
I just know that that's where I need to be mentally to perform at my highest level.
I heard you say you'll get like a meditative state during a fight and you don't exactly know what's going on.
Can you just walk us through exactly what that is?
Because that sounds so fucking cool, but it's also kind of vague the way you say it.
Can you just give us what's yeah?
Yeah, so fight day.
This was a weird fight day too, because I didn't even fight Saturday.
I waited in Friday morning.
Didn't even fight Saturday.
I fought Sunday morning.
So that whole day, Saturday, is just fucking waiting around, chilling, but I'm just very in tune with my breath the whole time.
So when you're constantly just following your breath, your heart rate's lower.
You're just kind of at a calm state.
So all day I'm just kind of following my breath, very calm all day, like not exerting any energy other than like a little workout blow up my lungs, but very calm.
So in the back, same thing, just following my breath, listening to the calming music until about 20 minutes before the fight.
And then you kind of turn up the music, but still very calm.
It just comes, all comes down to just following your breath.
I constantly am just trying to follow my, play with my breath.
I'll do long last holds.
I'll play.
I'll do like fire breathing with a long exhale.
I'll just do, I'll play with.
It's like a game.
You can just get this relationship with your breath, play with it.
Is this like Wim Hof technique?
It kind of, yeah, there's Wim Haw.
It's just, yeah, I mean, it's just breathing, just playing with it.
But I'll do long holds, really, really just get oxygen to all my muscles, my entire body, open up my lungs, get my lungs prepared to, you know, be tired and have to just be able to move that oxygen.
But yeah, walking out to the fight, I always have that conversation with myself where I'm like, all right, I'm just going to let my higher self take over.
Let all the work that I've put in take over.
Whatever happens, happens.
Truly go into that fight.
If I lose, I lose.
That's cool.
It's like, I'm not, my life's not over.
I've heard Connor talk about that.
Like his perspective, walking into the ring, he's like, okay, I put in all this time in this camp.
I work so hard, non-stop training, thinking about the opponent, going to kill him.
And the second I walk in, have fun.
I'm sparring.
I'm just going to let loose.
I'm going to stop thinking about all these technical little details I prepared for myself and just exist.
What's going on?
Sorry, what's going on in your brain?
Is it just a reaction like move left, duck, what?
Swing here.
Yeah, I would say there's very few thoughts going on and on in my mind.
It's probably what those monks and the Buddhists get to when they're enlightened.
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Yeah.
Where they're just kind of there feeling the wind or listening to the sounds.
Like, I feel like it's a lot of that because I don't really have very many vivid memories of what actually, like, how'd you feel when you hit it like that?
Flow state.
That was the purest form of flow state.
Yeah.
And you can see it when you're starting to get off.
Yeah.
That it feels like everything is, you know, leading into another, like every strike is connected to another one.
It's not this like, oh, here's a pot shot.
Let me hold my breath and wait.
Each thing is connected to another thing.
You've seen that with Connor too, early in his fights.
Like he would, there was this like wheel kick that he would bust out every once in a while.
But the wheel kick came off of changing the direction of the opponent.
Yeah.
You know, and it was just like, oh, wow, this is everything is a piece-by-piece setup.
It's almost like chess match.
Well, you guys probably feel when you're performing on stage.
It's the same thing, just in a different art form.
Yeah.
I really think it is.
Like, I feel like my worst sets is when I'm thinking about every little joke that I'm going to do.
And the best sets is like, just flowing crowd work thing here, this joke here, move this joke.
That's why I like crowd work because I can't think as much.
Yeah.
Whereas sometimes, I don't know if this happens.
It probably can't happen because it's life or death for you.
But like, there's times where I feel like I'm watching myself kind of on autopilot.
The worst.
That's when I'm the most mad at myself.
I try to get into that and it's just that's where I feel like the breath comes in.
Yeah.
That's why I feel like I show up every time.
I know how to get into that flow state.
Right.
It's through the breath.
Breath work thing that you did.
This is like it's a different breathwork thing.
Breath work thing.
It's like your body has the trauma and then you breathe and it like helps.
I mean, it's all the same, really.
I feel like breath work is good for you.
But as far as sparring goes, like, I don't think of fights as like, oh, it's just not day sparring.
Because in sparring, I'm not trying to kill this guy.
I don't really want to hurt my partner.
Like, I really don't, genuinely don't want to knock him out.
But in the cage, I want to put his lights out.
Bad.
Maybe I misquoted Connor on that.
No, you're good.
A lot of people do refer to it.
It's like, it's like sparring.
Some people spar like that.
I think they do that also to not make it too big.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What do you want as big as possible?
I want it life or death.
I want it to feel good.
I do like the pressure.
I want that.
What did you think of that Nganu Fury fight?
I thought Tyson won the boxing match.
I know he got dropped.
He lost that round 10-8.
I know he got pieced up in the later rounds, but it's just, I thought he did enough.
I thought he outboxed him.
But it was very impressive from France.
France.
Boxing IQ was so impressive.
It was good.
Even landing that hook.
Boom.
Yeah.
But he caught the one too.
Like Tyson comes in with that one, too.
That's his move.
He has these great feints.
Oh, he was looking sharp in the beginning.
At the very beginning of the fight, he landed like a big, it's like this almost overhand right, but he does a little bit too much.
And he just stood up.
Nothing.
That is a scary.
And Tyson looked at him like, whoa-oh.
Bro, that was scary.
I didn't realize he was 37.
That is wild, too.
Francis.
Yeah, Francis.
I heard that on the interview level.
37.
Fuck, 37.
You think more MMA guys can.
I don't think so.
I think there is crazy levels to boxing.
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What did you think about the Sean Strickland Izzy fight?
That was crazy.
I was not expecting that.
Sean Strickland proved a lot of people wrong.
I thought Izzy was going to piece him up, but that was a perfect fight for Izzy.
I think a lot of us thought that.
But is his boxing style just really underrated?
I think so too.
I think it was a mixture between.
I think that fight plays out different.
Obviously, if they fight again, every fight's going to be different.
I think he showed up.
Maybe a combination of both.
Maybe Izzy didn't take him as seriously, but also Sean's boxing acumen was higher than people thought.
Yeah, I'm yeah, I don't know.
I thought it was a very interesting fight.
I would like to see Sean box on boxers.
That'd be crazy.
It'd be really interesting.
I wish it wasn't such a big deal.
I wish you could go box a little bit and it wasn't, it didn't have to be a big deal.
You don't think that they would let you do that?
I think I will do that someday.
You still want Tank, right?
Yeah, I still want that fight.
I'll get that fight someday.
You want Tank?
Yeah.
Genuinely?
Yeah.
I'm going to get that fight someday.
I really, really, the same way I would have sat here and told you, I probably did, I'm going to be champ, like the same feeling I have is like, I'm going to, I don't know if it's going to be tank.
I don't know.
Ryan Garcia, it could be, I think that I will have a big boxing fight.
But you also look at Tank and you're like, this guy's an exceptional boxer.
Yeah, of course.
And like a Bud Crawford, for example.
Exceptional.
Yeah.
You just said how skilled.
Yeah.
And then you said.
It's not to take away from your skill, but you can acknowledge that these guys are absolutely devastatingly good at boxing.
Yeah.
Okay.
And I could still win.
Yeah, I'm not saying you could, but you acknowledge that it's not a walk in the park like it might be.
No, some guys.
Yeah, of course not.
I don't think it's, I don't think I'm going to.
But I say I could, I could.
You could also clip him and then drop him.
That's the game.
That's the game.
I'm a fucking sniper.
So I know how to punch.
So this is what I would say.
And people ask if people asked before this Francis Nganu Tyson Fury fight, if people asked who's a better striker pound for pound, Sean O'Malley or Francis Nganu, I think nine out of ten people would say Sean O'Malley.
And they'd be right.
And they would probably be right technically.
After this fight, striker or boxer?
Just boxer.
Even boxer.
I think nine out of ten would be like, oh, yeah, his hands are crazy.
After this fight, I think a lot of people go, I think we underestimated Francis' boxing.
It's not to take away from you, but I never thought Francis was this high IQ with the boxing.
The decisions he was making, I thought he was going to be like a lot of the MMA guys that go into boxing, that they have two or three strikes and then they freeze.
Francis was at moments of this fight in control of who I think is the best heavyweight boxer of all time.
Yeah, I think it's it is different at heavyweight too.
Because one punch.
Not that I don't have one punch, but my one punch has to be right on the chin.
And heavyweights.
You could just hit him with either hand.
You get up two hands in boxing and he could throw and just land and drop.
So not to take away from how impressive it was.
Yeah.
But I just think at heavyweight, it's different.
Yeah.
And the interest in it was crazy.
I mean, the UFC's got to look at that and be salivating and go, okay, if Tank agrees to a fight against our champ.
We'll see.
The UFC, they said, you know, they're like, yeah, we'll see.
They have to build themselves up more.
They don't look at him as a star right now.
Wait, wait, they don't think Tank is a star.
Yeah.
What?
Tank is what?
Tank has to review his.
They said Ryan Garcia was a star is a star.
They said Ryan Garcia carried that.
I'll be honest, if you look at the Tank's.
Of course, but if you look at Tank's past few fights, if you just look at the gate, whoever Tank fights, it's sold.
Tank has the hood.
Like, there's certain boxers that have different cultures.
Oscar had Mexicans, Latinos.
He also had women.
That was another thing back in the day.
Floyd had everybody.
You either wanted him to lose, you wanted him to win.
But Floyd also had black Americans.
They're like, yo, this guy's going to win.
We're riding with this guy.
Tank has black Americans.
I think he's getting there.
No, He's there.
I'm telling you, bro, he's been there for four fights.
But what I'll say is, when you go watch a UFC fight, there is so much more value on that card than watching a box.
That's what I wanted to say.
Like when I go watch, if I watch you headline, right?
Not only do I get to watch you, I might pay for you, but I'm going to get at least three or four other fights that I'm interested in.
Even me as a casual, I'm a super casual.
I will know both fighters in at least two fights on every UFC card.
Boxing, I will know one boxer.
Have you been to whoever he's lifting?
Jake Paul.
It's.
He actually have you been to a boxing match.
Jake's boxing.
That's all I've been to.
If you go to a boxing match, it is an empty arena until the minute they walk into the ring.
If you go to a UFC fight, it is absolutely packed for the prelims.
It's a better product.
Yeah, but the money doesn't lie.
Because what they're doing is to go out of business sale in boxing.
They're doing business poorly.
It benefits the top of the top, but it kills the brand of boxing.
And then with UFC, they're able to build a brand.
And the cost of building that brand is reinvesting into the business that builds it.
And I know that's frustrating for you guys.
And I want you guys to make all the fucking money.
Don't get me wrong.
And I hope at the top you guys make all the money.
But the way that you basically move past boxing is by doing exactly what you guys did.
It's what Amazon did.
Amazon didn't make any profit.
They just dumped everything back into the business, back into the business.
So the fact that UFC has gone from this like weird, like hillbilly fringe sport where you're seeing like fat dudes fight sumo wrestlers to the number one thing.
Who's the guy I'm thinking of?
The big fat black like karate guy that you saw fought Hoist Gracie back in the day or whatever.
Anyway, like to the number one fight sport, it takes reinvestment.
So I'm like a little bit.
I want boxers to make as much and I want fighters to make as much money.
I want you to make all the fucking money.
So the UFC pays the lower guys more than the boxers pay the lower guys.
And I think that's something that's kind of missed.
The people middle class here.
None.
But the main event in boxing.
They make crazy money.
The main event.
100%.
Boxing as a whole sucks.
Dude, corruption.
Nobody wants to fight each other.
Everybody's afraid of a loss.
Whereas in UFC, guys will lose and then increase their standing.
Yeah.
Hey, you just show, you show.
There's a guy.
Oh my God.
I'm going to forget his fucking name.
Cheeto.
Lopez.
Lopez, I think his name is.
Boxer or UFC?
No, UFC fighter.
He just fought someone.
He fought another person on.
No, no, no, no.
Tito's a boxer.
Lopez spelled L-O-P-E-S.
I think he's a Brazilian guy that fights out of a Mexican job.
Just fighting this weekend?
Yes.
Okay, I say it with weird haircut.
Weird haircut.
Yeah.
Diego Lopez.
I think his name is Diego Lopez.
And he lost that fight.
Short notice.
But short notice stepped up.
Dude, against a guy who was like really highly talented in the division.
I think that was on the Henry Algo card.
More so.
Movestar Evilov.
And yeah.
Sick fight.
And like, yeah.
And there's a perfect example.
The audience goes, oh, oh, you have an L on your record.
They go, we don't give a fuck.
We don't give a fuck.
You really fought.
You busted your ass.
You were an underdog.
You came up and you stepped up.
And now we want to watch you fight again.
Yeah.
I think that a brand like that is awesome for fighters because now you're less concerned about taking a risk.
Now you're not going, oh, I don't want to fight.
You're going, yeah, I'm going to fight and I'm going to fucking show up.
And even if I lose, I'm still going to get fights.
Yeah.
Smart.
Yeah.
UFC's.
Yeah.
UFC's fucking.
That's why I don't really complain about the money.
Well, I'm getting paid good now.
I'm in a really, really good spot.
I'm happy.
But even when I wasn't getting paid as much and I thought I wanted more, it's like I was still just grateful that I could fucking go out there, do what I love to do in front of millions of people and still make money on brand deals, merch, other stuff.
Yeah.
And, you know, I knew if I kept winning, I'd get to the point to where I'm at now where I'm making good money.
I want you guys to make even more.
Yeah.
I would love that.
And not all the guys are good.
You should pay me then.
I'm good.
I do.
I pay you $79.99.
I appreciate that.
Mamba.
I buy every fight.
I mean that.
I do too.
Okay.
You pay yourself?
Oh, I probably won't buy the fight that I'm on.
Actually, I might after because I have to go watch it back.
Like the last Al Joe fight.
I had to go pay for it to watch it back.
Actually, no, I didn't.
I take that back.
Well, to watch the whole fight because they post that shit everywhere.
That's the first time they've ever done that.
Yeah, if your fight is really good, you don't have to buy it.
That was the first time they've ever done that.
They posted on Twitter.
Oh, the knockout.
YouTube.
I mean, that goes too.
That was crazy.
The knockout was crazy.
I mean, it was amazing.
Remember that shit?
Yeah, it was amazing.
They want you to be the guy, bro.
Yeah.
They want you to be the guy.
That's why they put the knockout everywhere.
Great fucking that's why they fixed the fight for Al Joe to get knocked out.
Oh, God.
But low-key, that's kind of what I fuck with with the UFC is like, if they really wanted to protect you, they wouldn't feed you to Jan.
Putting you up against Jan is like, let's see if this kid got it.
Well, look at this.
When October, before I fought Peter Jan, he was ranked number one.
Al Joe was the champ.
Who were the last two dudes I fought?
The number one dude and the champ.
That's the thing.
The narrative is fucked up.
It's trial by fire.
Yep.
I do believe that in the UFC.
And low-key, and they're giving what's in to bring up the other, to bring up Patty.
He's fighting Tony right now.
Now, Tony's coming off of six.
Six losses in a row.
Yes.
Come on, bro.
That's crazy.
That is a lot.
He's still dangerous.
Everybody he lost to in the last six fights have been really fucking good.
That's the other thing.
Yeah.
But seven-fight losing streak, if he loses to Patty, I don't like this fight for Patty.
I mean, I guess I don't know who else you give him.
Why?
There's just not much upside.
I mean, you beat, I don't know.
I guess if you go out there and if he does beat Tony, Tony's still a massive name.
People are connected with him.
He's one of the most enigmatic characters.
Great legacy.
Incredible legacy.
And there's going to be people going, oh, I want Tony to get a victory, go out on a band.
There's going to be people.
Patty.
Is that December?
No.
Is it December 16th?
Dude, this December 16th.
Did we pull that card up?
December 16th?
Yeah.
Are you going?
No, it's in Vegas.
Yeah.
That card is so sweet.
I want to.
You say Vegas, Vegas, and it always throws me off.
It's like the third time.
Yeah, you say Vegas.
Is that how they say it over there?
Las Vegas?
You're from Montana.
It's crazy, right?
He's a Montana boy.
Wait, what am I saying?
It's Las Vegas.
We say Vegas, you say Vegas.
Yeah.
How do you say?
It's almost like.
They say milk.
Milk.
Yeah.
They say milk normal.
Garage.
What about garage?
You go to garage.
Garage.
Garage.
Who else do you want?
Are you at the point where you could dictate what fights are on your undercard?
No, I don't.
I don't think so.
I would like a big co-man event.
No, I mean like your guys, friends you train with like those.
Like whenever Izzy fights, he's got other guys from the camp.
I think we're getting there.
I'm getting to a good point to where I can start getting my boys in the contender series, for example.
I think we're getting there for sure.
Like, are there younger guys that we should look out for that you train with that you think can really make it?
Yeah, yeah, 100%.
Well, there's guys that are already in the UFC.
Marcus, that dude's fucking crushing it.
Marcus.
Marcus McGee.
Okay.
Kyler Phillips.
Okay.
That dude's a stud.
Ezra Elliott.
This dude was one of my main partners for Al Joe.
He's still trying to get a profile.
It's hard for a lot of these guys that train at the lab or train at Good James to get fights.
Why?
Because they see that you train with these guys or you have a wrestling background as Ezra does.
He's a good wrestler.
Nobody wants to take that L.
Yeah, it's hard.
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But the card's crazy.
Leon Colby.
Leon Colby.
Who do you got in Leon Colby?
God, dude.
I don't know.
That's such a Leon.
I like Leon a lot.
Leon's great.
But Colby's just fun to listen to.
He's a character.
He's fucking loud.
He talks shit.
It's interesting.
It'd be crazy to be him at champ.
But also, Leon's fucking dangerous.
Yep.
Alex Pantosia.
I finished him in the first round versus Random Royvel.
I haven't seen him fight.
How is he?
I think he's stud.
I think he's pretty good.
Shavka Rachmanov versus Steven Thompson.
Yeah, what do you think happens here?
That Shavkot is no fucking joke, dude.
Okay.
Bro.
Steven Thompson 80.
If the country ends in stand, dude, you're fucked.
Yeah.
Dude, I'm telling you.
Dagestan, Kazakhstan, Pakistan.
Shout out to Imran.
Hey, dude.
If he's got a stand, you're going to get beat up.
And what do we think over here?
Tony versus Patty?
I'm curious too.
Oh, Vincent Luke.
Gary versus Luke.
Yeah.
Dude, that's a sweet fight.
That whole fight is that.
Yeah, it's going to be.
I'm doing a to do an after-party of residency with Resorts World in Vegas.
Vegas.
So I'll be having an after-party there.
I'm not fucking fighting.
But I would be there for the after party.
Dude, this is a stacked card.
Josh Emmett, Giga, because that's what I'm saying.
So, women, didn't Emmett didn't Emmett just fight for the number one Ila Tuporia, right?
Oh, that's rotten.
So he just fought for number one contender.
Now he's the sixth fight on the card, seventh fight.
Yeah, bro.
You gotta, yeah, that's crazy.
And Giga Chikadze, what do you think about his striking?
He's very legit, right?
Yeah, he's good.
Yeah, I like that guy.
So that whole card, yeah, stacked card, end of the year.
Well, ending with a banger.
It's gonna be fun.
Patty, I'm curious to see how he comes back.
He was, you know, coming off that surgery.
He's kind of acknowledged it wasn't a great outing for him.
Yeah, well, you can't deny that.
You can't.
Yeah.
You know, you can't.
It was bad.
He lost that fight.
Yeah.
But yeah, we'll see.
Speaking of Vegas, you saw that UFO situation that happened a couple of, I think it was a few months ago, right?
I remember hearing about that.
Yeah.
Wait, which one?
Then they tried to interview him and then they wouldn't say shit.
I heard you believed it.
Who?
I heard you believed it.
No, I want to.
I'm in the same.
I'm like that Rogan kind of like, I would love for that shit to be real, but it's just hard to.
I mean, I listen to every Rogan UFO pod.
I'll listen to it and they'll talk about the documentary.
I'll go watch the documentary, like the one in Brazil.
I had dinner with Lazar.
Did you?
Yeah.
And Logan.
You guys chit-chat about it?
Of course.
Oh, I believe he believes he worked on Aliencraft.
Really?
I believe he believes it.
Okay.
Meaning, I don't think he's lying, but he might not have worked on actual Aliencraft.
Okay.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, yeah, it does.
That makes sense.
Like, people can believe the things that they're saying, but that can also not be true.
What'd you guys eat?
A Fogo de Chow.
Wow.
Yeah.
No, yeah, that could be true, but I don't.
Brazilian steakhouse.
You know, it's the steakhouse where you could put a little thing on it.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I didn't even know what that green.
I left that shit up.
The fucking, it gets kept on there.
I'm like, straight in your mouth.
Any strip clubs here?
You like the rippers?
I don't, but I won't mind seeing some teddies.
You should go to what is it called?
Teddy?
It's the Kelly Rippers.
Sapphires.
Sapphire is still open?
There was that one in Queens that was.
Oh, no.
If you want to get that.
I mean, like the girl, because sometimes.
You're going to get rats.
No, sometimes I go to most of the strip clubs I go to, I'm like, ew.
You know what I mean?
They're fucking on the thing going like this, clapping their thighs.
Like, they just don't want to see your thighs clap.
What do you want?
Some potatoes.
You like potatoes, huh?
You want the potatoes?
You want the mouth.
But I also, I feel like I have to be buzzed up at a strip club or else I'm kind of like.
Oh, yeah.
Why am I here?
Yeah.
But my point.
White, white, black, Spanish.
What's your flavor?
All.
Yeah.
All.
Bad bitches.
That's a bad bitch.
But I was curious how the women are here.
Not that you guys have been probably.
Never.
No.
But if you pretended you went once.
Pumps.
Are they hot?
Pumps in Brooklyn?
That's like you get like hipster Bushwick chicks.
They got leg hair.
No, I don't like that.
No, but they're bad.
This was the one in Queens that was popping.
My wife randomly enjoys it.
There's a few.
Queens, Queen.
We got all the Columbian chicks.
Oh, we went to Ricks and Sapphires.
No.
No, Rivieras.
Rivieras is the one, right?
Yeah, yeah.
But there's some, but there's also one in the city that's going to be a little bit more.
I would walk past Times Square.
I walked past my hotel.
There's that Sapphire.
Flash Dancers.
Really?
Flashback the nuts.
No, what's the one that used to be called?
Oh, my God.
Pretended.
No, it was like the famous one.
Yeah, yeah.
They hit that fucking movie that was not Tens.
What's the matter?
Google.
Howard Stern used to talk about it all the time on like 50, on like 61st Street or 62nd Street by like First Avenue and 7th Street.
Oh, that's by the bridge.
No, no, no.
Hustlers?
Right by the right by the bridge, the 59th Street bridge.
Yeah.
Oh, that's where we went.
Yeah, because then when you paint or some food and then we went.
We went there.
Yeah, we went there.
I feel like...
I love that book.
And when I was in Atlanta, they were kept saying, oh, you got to go try the fucking wings at Magic City.
Yeah.
Why is there such good food there?
Or do you usually just think it's good?
I think you think it's good because there's, yeah, you're rocking.
It's fucking delicious.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can see that.
Yeah.
And it's tiny, Magic City.
Have you gone to Magic City?
I've been.
Is it Magic City the one that's in Atlanta?
That's like the one in Atlanta.
I don't think it was that time.
Sapphires is the one you're talking about.
No, no, no.
It's another one.
That shit was crazy.
I was wondering what it was.
Of course, that's the one.
That was the joint back in the day.
Not anymore, huh?
I mean, literally the description of it.
Yeah.
Swanky steakhouse with plush seating.
Is it steakhouse?
Oh, hell yeah.
And then a few strip clubs do this, but man.
So you know how it works with the strip clubs with like the finances and everything?
Like the strippers got to pay to work there, essentially.
Oh, really?
It's like a barbershop where you like rent your table.
Do you give them a percent or you pay?
You tip out the DJ, you tip out the other people, basically.
Wow.
Okay.
One flat fee and then you get whatever else you make that.
Yeah.
So what they would do is I wouldn't know.
I wouldn't.
If no, no.
That's how I guess.
I just heard.
They would have scores bucks.
I'm pretty sure it's scores that would do this.
And other places have done this before.
So you would take your thousand dollars and get you some scores bucks so you could tip the waitresses, et cetera.
But they would charge you to get the scores bucks.
So the club is eating off of charging you and they're eating when the strippers are paying to get their money back.
Sounds like we need to go to business.
It's like David Busters, dude.
100%.
Sugar Shoals.
Sugar Shoals and Strip Club.
And steaks.
Do we want some steaks in there?
Sugar Shoals and steaks.
Oh, good.
And the worst part of that, you switched over all your money for scores bucks and you got to use it all.
It's also not real money.
Be stingy with 50 scores.
Or keep the scores and then head back the next night.
Oh, and then you still got some scores.
So you go hit him on the car.
Oh, you think he's a copier?
Yo.
But your girl might find the scores books.
You know, if she finds singles, you can sit like that.
My wife on the 30th after was like, let's go to the strip club.
We got a table fire.
Sure.
Wow, there's like a 15.
No, you were invited.
There was a club and then we went afterward.
I forget what the club, the Labo or whatever.
But yeah, the credit card receipt, it was like a $1,500 charge and it was from some random thing.
They don't say sapphires or bricks.
They're not snitching.
Yeah, that's this total.
I was looking at the car the next week.
Like, what the fuck clubhouse did he spend $1,500 on?
Who stole my credit card?
And then it turns out the strip club just not going to snitch.
You snitched on yourself.
You called the bank.
You're like, I'm disputing this.
Yeah, it's disgusting.
Well, that's like one time I went to a strip club and they only gave us $2 bills.
And then I had hundreds of $2 bills in my backpack.
Yeah, literally.
It was a gang club.
But then I went home and my girl's like, why do you only have $2 bills?
And I was like, ah, just collecting.
Collectors at the strip club.
The funniest thing was Mark getting charged up for the lap dance.
You remember that?
When?
You know, though, the dance was like harassing for a lap dancing.
Dude, she got so pissed.
Okay.
I hate when they had like the girl.
This girl came up to Mark and she was like, do you want to dance?
And he was like, ah, we're actually about to leave.
And she was like, okay, I'll walk you out.
And he was like, oh, okay.
Well, we're actually not going to go anywhere.
I'm going to be here for a while.
And she's like, okay, do you want to dance?
He's like, oh, I'm actually out of money.
And she goes, okay, well, the ATM is right there.
And he goes, actually, I just don't want to dance.
I don't know how those girls can do that.
Cause I've seen that happen too.
It's like, they're like shameless.
She told him afterward, I hope you enjoyed the free show.
Yeah, she gave us so much attitude.
She goes, I hope you enjoyed the free show.
Usually they can spot a mark.
Literally.
Literally.
But the way she was dismaying, man, I got bricked up, dude.
Yeah, I was like, yell at me again.
God damn.
I got kicked out of the strip club when we went to one, when we were in Jacking Off in the Corner.
No, you would think it was on stage.
He was bawling up his ones, and then he was doing like hook shots and jump shots.
These are fadeaways.
Yeah.
Baseball pitches.
Oh, that's not true.
That's not how you would do it fast.
This is a mystery.
He was cocking up the leg.
Cocking up the roll.
Randy Judge.
The girl was.
I thought she had a funny thing.
She could hit it.
Bro, I took him to a strip club and I gave him, I don't know, a couple hundred dollars.
And then I look over and I'm like, where is Mark?
And he's at the bar of it and he's building a little house out of the dim.
Son.
Sud.
You retard, bro.
But what did the girl do?
Remember what the girl did?
She comes over fully naked.
It's only non-nude bar or full nude bar in Tampa.
And she just does a full split and fucking crushes the house.
Yeah.
Pussy fucking building seven on my shit.
I was building seven.
Speaking of, I was in the World Trade Center today.
No, you weren't.
Yeah.
Well, one World War II.
One world, sorry.
Yeah, yeah.
Fucked that up.
But I was kind of spooky, honestly.
That was a little wild.
Yeah, the vibes are weird.
It is a little bit looking out the window.
What?
Are there businesses in it?
So it's just, oh, GQ is in that?
Was I supposed to say that?
I mean, I think it's fine.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a big building.
Yeah, it hasn't been.
Oh, so they were on the floor.
No jokes.
But yeah, that was crazy.
I'm like, fuck.
If I had a pick to jump out this window or burn, like that fucking was fucking with me.
Crazy, right?
My brother saw people jumping out.
Are you serious?
He was in middle school.
His middle school was a few blocks away.
Fuck.
He was like calling home to see if he could get picked up.
Like, put a trampoline out there.
Yeah.
No way.
Would you hit a gainer?
What's a gainer?
But when you run forward and do a battle, jump backwards off.
Would I backflip?
Oh, boy, do you know the build?
You know what's so funny about that?
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Nothing.
No.
This is what's funny.
This is what's funny.
I thought if I had to jump off to something to my death, like if I just didn't have a choice, you might as well.
That's why that was literally my thought process.
That's why I asked the question.
I was like, fuck, I could probably hit a sick gainer.
You go gainer, you do front flip, or do you try to like slow it down a little bit?
But you're already going to jump.
There's no question.
You're jumping.
Yeah.
What do you do?
I'm cannonball, eyes closed.
You're cannonballing.
Same way.
Same way.
Instead of die, you just, you know?
But like, I'm probably aiming for people to break my full.
You're in the want an answer from the June.
Okay, listen, Sugar, before we get out of here, we know that you have a fight against Cheeto.
You're damn right.
Okay.
Is there any last words to the best-dressed man in the UFC that you'd like to say?