Andrew Schulz teases his September 30th Toronto arena show debut while debating "The Idol's" toxic fame dynamics and Apple Vision Pro's $3,500 price tag. The hosts analyze the device's eye-tracking features against sci-fi realities like David Grusch's alien claims and Marvel's multiverse fatigue. They also dissect the Miami Heat's playoff strategy, Johnny Depp's legal troubles, and a controversial New York Times crossword puzzle using "B1S," ultimately questioning whether infinite narrative possibilities dilute genuine stakes in entertainment and technology. [Automatically generated summary]
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Big Flagrant Announcement00:09:14
What's up everybody?
Welcome to Flagrant.
We got a big announcement.
As you saw in the title and probably the thumbnail, there's a big announcement.
And we could all just tell you right now.
Okay.
But instead, we made a different video to tell you.
It's still me telling you.
It's just different lighting.
And there's probably some music and stuff.
You know, I mean, look, look, we got a lot of people on staff here.
And we got to find things for them to do.
Can we just play the video?
Yeah, this is losing steam.
I feel like it's losing steam.
I feel like we should try to draw this out as long as possible.
Guys, it's a huge announcement.
Do you guys have anything you'd like to announce before we get to the huge announcement?
I'm going to play the video.
Does anybody have any announcements?
Can we play it?
There's a big announcement coming, guys.
But prior to that, Miles, any milestones in your life you'd like to show you?
Milestones.
Hey.
Anything.
Play the video.
Play the video.
Okay, I'm just saying, before that, Dove, is there anything that you would also like to announce?
This is an announcement time.
I had a date the other night.
No, no, Play the video.
Just play the video.
Toronto, the last time I was on stage in your city, I made a promise.
Some of you probably remember it.
You see, I've been coming up to Toronto to do shows for a decade now.
I remember the first show I ever headlined there.
It was for 100 people in a great little comedy club on Bloor Street called Comedy Bar.
And every time I came back up, a few more people came out and we went from doing comedy clubs to movie houses to music halls to these majestic theaters.
And even when that pussy ass venue canceled my show because some of my jokes were offensive, we switched venues and you guys came out in droves and that meant a lot to me.
I assume that's because despite the venues getting fancier, there's one thing that has always remained the same.
And that is that everyone gets these jokes.
You know when you walk in the venue, everything is fair game.
Now for the last 10 years, every time I came up to Toronto, there is one venue that I would walk by.
And I would look at this venue and I would say to myself, one day, one day, I'm going to fucking earn that.
And I'm going to put on the craziest show this city has ever seen.
And the last time I was on stage in Toronto, I made a promise.
I just really appreciate you always supporting me.
Next time we're here, we got to do this shit where the Raptors play.
I'll tell you that much.
That's September 30th, the Scotia Bank Arena.
I'll see where the Raptors play.
Hey.
Okay.
Rate the cringe factor.
How were we?
Where were we?
One to ten on the cringe factor.
The only cringy thing is I almost cried watching it.
That's the only cringy thing.
You're very sick.
That's fucking dope, dude.
Yeah.
That's gross.
That's my, yo, I don't give a fuck.
I'm a cry, bro.
Look at how you're dressed colour, Nikkei.
How fucking dare you?
How dare you not pride dress like that?
This is the best part.
I can't believe it.
Do you remember what happened yesterday?
We were supposed to report.
I was dressed like all three golden girls.
Bro. Alex had this outfit on yesterday.
We were supposed to record.
We did Patreon.
And then he was like, dude, I can't waste another one that was fire.
He found it in the back room.
Oh!
Because he said, I don't want to waste the fit on Patreon.
Son, I look too good.
No, no, no, no.
Yeah, I understood that.
I understand that.
You respect it.
Yeah, sometimes.
He's just a hater guy.
Sometimes you put on a fire fit and you're like, not enough people saw this.
Exactly.
Not enough people saw this.
He did run it back.
I did run it back, but he did run it back.
No, but he didn't wear it on Patreon.
Son, I'm not you with only three shirts.
The outfit was too good for Patreon.
Yeah!
That's what I'm saying.
So, it's just like a push-up, bro.
So, Patreon's getting the B-sides.
Yes, it was still kind of fired up, bro.
You found it in a lunch clap cabinet.
I got some fire in here just laying around.
It was overall.
I found a diamond in a rough, bro.
Anywho, um, congrats on Scotiabank.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Toronto, very excited for this.
This is this is gonna be crazy, man.
I'm very excited.
And uh, so right now, go get tickets.
Oh, wait a minute.
When this is coming out, no, you can get tickets tomorrow starting at 12 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
DanreyShows.com.
It's on pre-sale.
For so, just for you guys, make sure you use the promo code Andrew.
Go get that.
Yeah.
Yeah, baby.
So that shit is major, bro.
Yeah, it's cool.
And a fucking arena.
Yeah, that's cool.
That's the first arena.
That's crazy.
I mean, that's how you feel.
An arena, bro.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's only two I care to do.
It was Toronto, Scotiabank, and obviously.
Why Toronto?
Toronto's been like the city that's held me down like New York.
Yeah, they do.
For me, it's like it's yeah, since the beginning, to be honest, it was like the first, I think the first theater I ever did was in Toronto.
Yeah.
And I've just been going there for so long, and people have been coming out for so long.
Like brilliant idiots fans from back in the day.
They would show so much love when I came out there.
You know, it's cool too, is Toronto's got such cucky policies.
Yeah.
It's great that the fans are still flagrant.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
The city policies are mad cucky.
Bro.
The fans still fuck with the flagrant.
The last Toronto show, I think that was like their first live show since the pandemic.
Oh, wow.
So they were like three, we did those three shows there, and it was crazy.
Like people were finally coming out.
The six were fired up.
You remember?
All the security was all the six, all the Punjabis.
I thought you were saying that the six right six.
Yeah, I think it was a six.
Is that why they all moved there?
I was wondering about that.
Actually, it makes a lot of sense when you say it.
But they were all the security.
And I was like, why?
And it was the Warrior thing.
Yeah.
And they were like, yeah, well, that's what we do.
Yeah, it is what we do.
That's true.
That's true.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I've just, I've always, I don't know, every time I went there, I was like, yo, I got to do this, man.
And it was just so cool.
Opportunity came.
And yeah, I'm really excited for it.
Really excited for it.
And now we got to just make this show a spectacle.
Which he will.
Yeah, we got to do it.
We got to do it.
That's the thing when you do an arena, it's like, or when you get into these bigger spaces, how do you fill that fucking space?
Yeah, but you've been trying to, you've been thinking on in that level since comedy clubs.
Yeah.
So I have no doubt.
Yeah.
We got some ideas.
We can top Taylor Swift.
I don't know about that one.
Come on, bro.
I don't know about that.
I don't know about that one.
She's single now.
Oh, yeah.
I'm asking that.
I can't talk.
I bought her.
I think she wears the pants of the relationship.
How tied to the fact that her boyfriend was making real quick for you, Yvonne?
Don't move on.
You're doing a fucking radio.
But I do need to ask you this.
If pre-sale's on sale tomorrow, are they annoyed that you're announcing this right now?
Yeah.
We had a whole agreement.
I'm positive.
This is a massive whoever you're working with.
Yeah.
Was like, hey, announce on Wednesday.
Yeah, we had a whole agreement.
And they were like, you have to announce on Wednesday.
And I was like, got it.
Yeah, look at my email feed right now.
Not good.
This guy loves y'all, Flagrant.
This motherfucker loves y'all.
Yeah, it was a fun call.
And there's like that.
They go, there's a press release going out at 6 a.m. Wednesday.
And I was like, got it.
Nobody's going to know until 6 a.m. Wednesday.
You said pre-sale goes on sale tomorrow.
And I was like, what?
Yeah.
Oh, it's weird.
I didn't really pick up this video.
What they didn't know is that our podcast comes out on Tuesdays.
So that's when it's announced.
What do you want me to not announce it on the podcast?
They can't tell you anything, bro.
They can't even tell you about your own shows.
You're going to tell everyone before it's time to tell them.
You got to keep it a secret from me.
Wednesday, I got to find it.
Yeah, you got to find it on Israel.
Oh, shit.
I'm doing social headlines.
If you were an NBA player, you would have to get found out you traded from like TMZ or whatever the fuck.
I 100%.
I'd be the jet dude that showed up to the facility and his code didn't work.
He's fouled, bro.
And they had the camera waiting for you.
Nobody even talks about that.
There was a dude they hired.
It was Jamal Adams, right?
It wasn't Jamal.
But there was a dude just waiting.
You know, he was pulling up like, it was kind of odd.
Why is there a camera waiting at the door for one specific shot?
Why is he smiling?
You got traded.
Let's say you played for the Raptors and they traded you.
You would for sure call your own press conference and be like, yo, you're not supposed to know this.
I'm getting traded tomorrow.
Oh, I'd be salty on Twitter for sure.
100%.
I would be salty on Twitter for sure.
Actually, once I had a whole video, bro, once I found out that I was getting traded, I would say, I demand a trade.
So, you know what I mean?
Like, it's like breaking up with a girl before she breaks up with DBO, even though she's going to actually do it.
So, I demand a trade to whatever team I was going to go to.
I would say, I demand a trade.
Yeah, I'm going to Orlando.
My dream.
You're George.
You know what I mean?
You got to let the kids play, whatever.
That's what, yes, 100%.
Shout out Toronto.
So, yeah, I'm excited.
We got to, yeah, we got to get some folks out, man.
Haircut Drama and Drake00:10:37
We got to get Drake doing stand-up.
Oh, I love that.
Wouldn't that be kind of fun?
He would be good at it, too.
He is.
He's good at everything.
He is shockingly good.
I saw him do some roast of like Nike execs.
Yeah.
Did you guys see that?
Yeah.
And he did a thing that is very rare for people who don't know how to do stand-up or who have never done it before.
Usually when they do it, they're like very like meaty on the laugh.
They're like really delivering the punchline.
They're like super telegraphing it.
And he did a thing that like usually people who haven't done it before don't do.
And he kind of like almost threw away the punchlines.
So he wasn't like screaming for the energy back from the crowd.
And I was like, all right, that's kind of good.
But that would be kind of wild.
Yeah.
I mean, you saw him when he hosted the Espes.
Oh, yeah, it was good.
Yeah, he was good.
And even good.
The sketches he did with DeMar DeRosan, speaking of Raptors back then.
I mean, the guy fucking funny.
Yeah.
He just low-key, the Espes have really good writing or hosts because John Cena killed that shit too, I think.
Our boys wrote for it.
Yes, sir, Lester, and his brother wrote for him.
But yeah, they wrote for them.
Oh, that's fire.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's fire.
Drake probably watches.
Yeah.
I saw you caught on to the wave, you know.
He caught on to the wave.
He's never going to shut up.
I'm just saying.
He's in album mode.
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
I'm deploying, bro.
But he's watching.
So, Drake, yeah, come out.
Do some jokes.
Okay, so you think the nails are the new thing right now?
I mean, it is.
They are than you think.
But Al acting like he started it, which annoys me.
I found Mark.
I'm super tight.
Remember, Mark did this shit during pandemic and we shamed him out of it.
Wait, you did nails?
Yeah, he did painted nails during pandemic.
We shaved the fuck out of him.
With his niece or some shit like that.
Now I'm with my niece.
Now it's excuses.
He was gay before.
He was gay when he was there before.
But now you just shamed you out of it and you stopped.
That's it.
Too flimsy.
No, I leveled up.
I leveled up.
Yeah.
You still doing that though?
That was cool.
I did that shit in the 90s.
Wait, when did I go to college?
Like the 90s?
Everything in the 90s to me now.
Back in the days, the 90s.
When was I in college?
02 to 06.
02.
It's almost the 90s.
You know what's crazy?
The 90s was 30 years ago.
When people say 30 years ago, don't you think like 60, 70s?
Ooh, damn, bro.
That shit hit my chest.
Stop talking like that.
30 years ago?
30 years ago.
About time I did this fucking arena.
How long I've been in this goddamn career, bro?
Holy shit.
No, 30 years ago.
We're living in our fifth decade.
Oh.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Yeah, that's whoa.
Wow.
That is wild.
What do you mean, y'all?
Shut up.
I was going to say, y'all.
I was like, no, you old.
When were you born, Al?
89?
88, 89?
85?
88.
88.
Oh, wow.
Old as hell.
Sam?
No, say y'all.
You're too old, bro.
Al, Al, you're too old to be painting the nails.
It's like the pain in the nails shit is cool, but you too old for that.
Drake's older than me.
Even that.
Drake's older than me.
Now I got to stop it because now everybody loves on a website.
Damn, bro.
I got to set a new trend.
What's the new one?
Sucking dick?
Nah, you got that one first.
You've all been on that one.
Yo, you can't dick ride, man.
Look, look, look.
If it's not.
That was nice of you.
Listen.
What'd I do right there?
What if it's not the nails?
What would it be?
I don't know.
I got to figure it out.
Okay.
I got to figure it out.
Like, how long did it take you to figure out the card?
I know it's not the cut.
Like, because I know that was only your idea.
How do you figure it out?
Yeah, how did you figure out the nails?
The nails was me.
But how did you figure it out?
Like, was it a dream?
Nah, you know, I just winked it.
You know, off the cuff out.
Off the cuff out.
Off the cuff out.
I hate you so much.
I hate this so much, dude.
I hate it.
I really do.
Nah, once the haircut catches on, you know, he's going to take credit for that shit.
Oh, you're going to get a bunch of cards.
Yeah, he took credit for a guy that didn't get the haircut.
Oh, yeah.
Buddy, we haven't seen it.
It's 1941.
That was funny.
Wesley Snipes had it in Blade.
Yeah, Wesley did kill it, actually.
And everybody loved that shit.
I think the 90s are really coming back, bro.
Was that the 90s?
It was Demolition Man.
Everything's the 90s.
What was it, Blade?
Not Blade.
Demolition Man, he was blonde.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nah, but Blade had that exact cut.
Yeah, I saw Luca.
I got gassed up.
Luca put a picture on his story of him getting his fade.
But the barber set the line for the fade first, and he posted the picture.
And it looked like it was just my cut.
And I was like, they riding, bro.
I texted the group.
I texted multiple group chats.
I was like, yeah, where's your jokes now when the greatest white NBA player ever got my fucking haircut?
First, they do it, then they copy.
That's it.
Exactly.
I think that's what I said, right?
It's true.
It is.
It is true.
Next story.
I didn't even go to the next story because I was so excited.
I clicked to next story, fade all in.
Regular haircut that he already has.
So it hasn't caught on just yet, but it's coming, bro.
It's coming.
He will.
He will.
Nah, it's definitely coming, though.
It's going to come.
Yeah, it's going to come.
People are going to get the fade.
But you got to stay with it.
Yo, I don't get fades.
I catch them, son.
So you get fades.
I catch fades, bro.
So you give fades.
Wait, let me try that one more time.
Son, in the 90s, he was different than that.
It was different than that.
He was workshopping this line yesterday.
I thought I worked on him.
It wasn't enough black people there.
Listen.
Okay.
Okay.
What is it again?
What is it?
What is it again?
Come on, Blanche.
Come on, son.
Stop playing with me right now.
Stop playing with me.
What is it?
I don't get, wait.
I don't get fades.
I give them.
I give fades.
I don't catch fades.
No, I don't get fades.
I give them.
Workshop it a little bit.
Yeah, we can workshop it.
We're back.
Sorry, Miles.
You got to make that cut.
Listen, speaking of this haircut, Kanye has been out and about with his girl.
I feel bad for his mannequin wife or whatever.
It's just like every morning they wake up and he's like, okay, I'm going to turn you into a flashlight.
And you're just going to walk around LA with this and then people are going to take pictures of us.
And that's what we're going to do today.
Yeah, dog.
Right?
Yeah.
I don't feel bad for her.
Why not?
She signed up for that.
We saw the previous one.
What was the other one?
White chick kim like he blew her up.
People actually cared about what she was doing during that time.
After they split, it is a career.
I never knew her name before this.
You saw her getting flirted with at the mall?
Bro.
Getting rizzed out of control.
That video is fire.
Bro, I'll call my girl.
And I said, watch this.
Tell me what you think of this.
Like, I was like, yo, you need to, like, would you behave in this manner?
And what was the consensus?
She was like, no, this is crazy.
Good.
Like, this is a married woman cheesed out of her mind.
Her whole face is just wrinkled up.
She's so happy that this guy's talking to her.
And then we don't even know if she got the number or not.
Nah, she told him.
She's like, no, I'm sorry.
I'm married.
And then the video cut, she probably sucked his dick right there.
She might have been.
No, dude, it was police.
That's why he put his dog on.
It's like a dog caller.
So they'll put him on a dog cone and be like, hey, stop sucking everyone's dick.
They both got a cockpit to foreskin.
Dude.
What about his t-shirt?
I love Jews, bro.
Dove was like.
Yeah, I thought it was Italian.
It's German.
Dove was like, he's selling his racist shit.
I was like, why?
Why?
Nah, but Dove can do that with Kanye.
Hold on.
Because Kanye's out of history.
Yeah.
He's in history.
Hold on.
He's not looking for it.
I'm not looking for it.
Why?
I just saw it and I was like, oh, it looks like it's a lot of people.
Yeah, but Kanye probably did that shit on purpose.
Can you say what we're saying they about?
Yeah, Kanye shirt says police or whatever, which is German police.
That's the German word for police.
That's what they wear in Germany.
So there's a lot of countries in Europe.
It don't turn into police.
Was there police and Nazis?
Yeah.
So there was the SS and then there was just police.
Yeah, but it was like the brown shirts became the party and then became, I don't know.
There was Gestapo.
There was SS.
SS were the worst.
Probably Gestapo, too.
Maybe the police were good.
Yeah, maybe they're good guys.
Maybe there's some good Jew-loving police in Germany.
We don't know.
Maybe they didn't do the Jew hating is what he's saying.
Maybe that was.
Maybe they knew Anne Frank was up there.
They didn't do shit about it the entire time.
So maybe he's turned a new leaf.
Maybe this is Jew positive Kanye.
Actually, not really, because if it is foreskin around her, he's like really driving at home.
He's like, I love foreskin.
Foreskin is the best thing ever.
Here's my German shirt.
My German dick.
And why are shoulder pads racist?
Don't, this shit is going to catch on, bro.
Oh, God.
The shoulder pad thing?
Yeah.
Oh, you non-shoulder-having motherfuckers.
This shit's going to catch on.
I don't know.
Why is that racist to have shoulder pads, though?
Is that part of it?
Or is it just the Germans?
What's racist about this?
This could be the current police.
Why that police?
Why that police?
I mean, not Nazi Germany.
Oh, yeah.
Are all Germans Nazis too?
If he was just wearing a German flag, I'm saying.
No, but you're also not allowed to wear a swastika in Europe.
That's not a swastika.
That's not a swastika.
I don't know.
Can Germans never do anything good?
Do you listen to Beethoven?
Do you not like once that once, what is it called, that thing that happened in Germany?
The Holocaust.
Did that happen?
No.
once, you know, World War II, obviously a Holocaust happened.
Is everything after that Germans are bad?
Forever?
There's got to be a good...
You worked in Germany.
You lived in Germany.
You still love them.
See?
You lived in Germany.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's wild.
Dove is massage, low-key.
Yes.
I think this entire time, like every time I see Dev a little bit stressed, and I'm like, oh, I have to remember, he's also an international spy.
Yeah.
So he's managing all of this while also finding a way to like keep down those who shall not be named.
Optical Illusion Debate00:15:42
I fuck with it.
You like it?
Wear it.
Go.
Wear it.
Do it.
It's growing on me.
Do it.
Where?
No, the shoulder pads, not the politier.
I mean, the whole look.
What are the police supposed to wear in Germany?
But that's like riot gear police.
Like, what's he doing?
Hmm.
I mean, he's, what is it called?
Dog whistling?
Yeah.
Is that the term?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can't.
Yes, I can.
You can't call anybody gay.
That's what I'm saying, bro.
If you're up to culture, you can call that.
There you go.
Oh, if you are gay, you can call.
So you meant it as a compliment.
Yeah.
Very good.
Fair enough.
Come on.
You're very close.
This, I don't know if this is gay.
Very gay.
Nah, son, you look like a greaser.
Yeah, I'm a greaser.
If he was at Pride Parade, you don't think that would fit?
That outfit fits.
If he's on one of the floats, I think if I take this off and I go like full Freddy Mercury, that's in a cis.
But just this, I'm just like a fucking stud.
What are you doing?
The mustache in the slick is always going to be this, you know, super hot, sexy guy.
Yeah, I get it.
The girls just want to fucking throw it all the time.
I understand what I'm giving right now.
I'm not saying, to be honest, top half is not gay.
Fits fire, bro.
No, It is not.
No, the top half is fire.
And you know, I like the sneakers.
The pants are just new.
They're interesting.
Yeah, I know.
Giants.
I like Trump.
Where did you get them?
I actually got.
I was joking.
That's good.
That's good.
That was good.
He was excited.
I was huge.
Nah, that was good.
I was going to snitch up myself.
No, wait, where did you get that?
I was going to snitch up myself.
Fucking Instagram ad got me, bro.
No.
Can't be wearing Instagram clothes, bro.
What did they look like in the ad?
Just like this.
No way.
No, no.
Come on, boy.
Come on, Mark.
No way.
Stop.
I bought stuff off Instagram ads and it does not look like what I thought I bought.
So you bought something new that looks like it's secondhand?
Like, seriously?
Like, that's what you think.
Yeah.
There's a whole market for it.
Why ain't on Mark's cup and I'm sure flannels, son?
Yeah.
He loves his flannels.
I know he's so upset that Derek Poson only wears flannels on the road.
Yes, because now Mark has no clothes left to wear, but no.
That's why he got co-headlighted.
Yes.
Flat on Flannel Boys.
Yo, Flannel Boys, bro.
It's honestly, it's a movement.
Okay, what else we got?
We got Aliens confirmed.
Shannon Sharp is out.
The idol.
Oh, let's go to the idol.
Yeah, let's talk about the idol.
Let me tell you something about the idol.
What is this show?
Shout out to Bob.
New HBO show from Sam Levinson.
Sam Levinson is the guy who wrote Euphoria.
It's absolutely fantastic.
It's produced and starring Johnny Depp's daughter, Lily Rose Depp, and The Weekend.
Bunch of other famous actors in it as well.
It's about this young music pop star artist named Jocelyn.
And she's just come off like a mental breakdown or something.
She's about to put out a new album, whatever.
Herbs, new song, new sale come out.
Anyway, the plot of the first episode.
First of all, before we even get to the plot, I get a text.
The thing comes on at like nine o'clock.
Okay.
At nine and 30 seconds, Vala is already texting me, son, Lily Rose Depp.
Crazy.
I'm like, what's going on?
I don't get to see until 11 o'clock.
Bro, the opening scene.
No, I, bro.
Yeah, yeah.
You shouldn't be able to be that skinny and that heavy at the same time.
It's like an optical illusion, bro.
It's an optical illusion.
It's an optical illusion, dude.
It's nice.
So skinny, but she's so heavy.
It's an optical illusion, bro.
It's an optical illusion, bro.
Like, I'm looking at her how skinny she is, but she's so heavy as fuck.
It's an optical illusion.
Bro, it's an optical illusion, though.
Motherfuckers sound like Dr. Uba, right?
Bro, it's an optical illusion.
And I need some donations.
Dude, I didn't know what to think.
I never heard of this girl until Vala yesterday.
Vala spread the word.
So I didn't hear about her.
Vala's like, yo, this girl, she's the one.
And I'm like, who is that?
She's fucking like, who is this?
I've never heard of her.
He pulled her up.
Pictures on Google don't do justice.
Yo, they're regular Schmeggler on Google.
No disrespect, Lily Rose.
No, all disrespect.
Whoa, bro.
We got a big up right now.
We're going to objectify this girl.
We're celebrating.
They don't do her.
Yeah, disrespect to the photographers.
To the photographer.
True, true, true.
Catch her angles, bro.
Bro.
And the angle is all of her.
Straight on and to the side.
Bro, there is a moment where you see her nipples.
Son, she got, she got, this is going to sound crazy to say.
Son, real, we might have to.
I really did think I was in chimp empire for a second when I was watching this show.
I put my knuckles on the bed.
My girl's like, what's going on?
I was like, don't worry about it.
I started grabbing prances, throwing them all over.
Bro, the nipples.
How'd you watch this with your shorty, though?
What?
Like, I got to ask.
That's that's it.
That's the nipple right there, bro.
That's the nipple.
Bro, that had to be CGR.
It's CGI and MCGI.
That had to be CGI.
Yeah.
That had to be CGI.
That had to be CGI.
You got to just find the scene.
Go to the scene.
I'm trying to sit on the screen.
I don't get it because you see, it's that heavy there.
Optical illusion.
They get that heavy there.
It's an optical illusion.
Yo, it might be angles to CGI or something.
I need to look at the fucking black, bro.
I need to put this on my lap, bro.
If we gonna watch that scene, I need to put this pillow on my lap.
How'd they get heavier with nothing else getting heavier?
No, no, but she has body.
No, she don't.
When she's dancing outside for Al No, for you, yeah.
For you?
No.
Stop.
I'm used to the wagon.
That's what I'm talking about.
You know what I'm saying?
Pulp's gang.
Pulp's gang.
Come on.
You know?
Dumpers.
We do dumpers.
We do dumpers over here.
Come on.
For LA, for Beverly Hills, LA, where you were born and raised.
That's for 16.
I hear why you think that that is body.
But we're still off the nipples.
She got two crickets coming out.
Look at them crickets.
Look at them crickets, bro.
Oh, my God, bro.
Chimpanzee time.
It's chimpanzee time.
Come on, bro.
Look at the profile of that nipple.
Look at that extension.
She got a little choed.
Come on, bro.
Wow.
Wow.
That's an optical illusion.
That's an optical illusion.
That has to be an optical illusion, Al.
That would shoot straight through your shirt.
There's no question.
Your blouse will be shredded.
Dude, this is with all due respect.
She just hangs her shirts up behind that box.
With all due respect, with all due respect to Johnny Depp, with all due respect to, I can't even watch anymore.
Is that a GIF?
It's a gift.
Is that a GIF right there?
What does GIF stand for?
I'm not saying it.
Wow.
There you go.
Yes, sir.
Oh, my goodness.
God damn.
Okay, so.
What?
Oh, so he has said it's the new Sidney Sweeney.
Oh, but just less heavy.
And I was like, then it's nothing.
Then it is nothing.
Until I saw the show.
Shout out to Sidney Sweeney trying to act.
He's done.
And then that movie came on after.
And I was like, oh, she's done.
No, she's done.
No, she doesn't.
She does.
They're trying to get her out of here.
Don't let them do it to you, Sidney Sweeney.
You are milk queen number one.
You are milk queen number one.
Guys, stop being sexist over here.
You're right.
Y'all need to tap down this conversation like we all not married.
Y'all done dragged me into a single guy conversation.
He's going to drag you.
Dude, it's an optical loose.
I'm not even here, man.
I was about to pick your nipples.
This is an optical loose.
Shit.
So dump it.
Dude.
But isn't the show that the girl gets cumbered?
Don't get some smart fucking.
Oh, no, that wasn't smart.
She got cumbed on in the show.
Okay, yeah.
This is the plot of the show.
The plot of the show is she gets cumbed on in her face and took a selfie of it, and that goes viral.
That's the plot for the first episode.
And they show the picture of her getting cumbed on.
Yo, Sam Levinson is the wild.
Wild boy.
Wow.
I hate it, dude.
Wow boy.
Holy shit.
Come on, son.
It's great.
What's going on?
Like, at what point is it just porn if she's covered in cum and is on the TV and you're watching it alone?
That's real life shit.
What do you mean?
At what part?
I'm 35 seconds in.
It's at what part when my fucking blanket was hopping up and down, left and right.
That's what part.
Are you kidding me?
Are you kidding me, Mark?
I asked my girl.
I was like, what'd you do this year?
She was like, oh, I watched the idol.
Yeah, she watched it with my wife.
Yeah, why?
Well, because I told my girl about it in the morning and she managed within five minutes to completely ruin Lily Rose Depp for me.
I was like, wow, I just watched the idols.
You're a very beautiful girl, Sidney Sweeney.
Bro, what do you think was going to happen?
I know.
Why you snitch on yourself, yo?
Maybe I didn't even say that.
I probably said it another way.
I was like, yeah, there's a dairy factory over at HBO between Sidney Sweeney and Lily Rose Depp, and I'm feeling latos and time.
Okay, I just pulled my neck.
I'm from the 90s.
And there's another actress that's going to make an appearance that is the.
Oh, god damn it.
Don't do it to us.
Should we wait till next week?
We don't want to see that now.
Yeah, we do.
What is her name?
Wait, what's that?
Sophie Mudd.
I mean, that's a fire name.
Let's go, baby.
He's like, what about Dappin' right now?
Dappin.
Bro.
I knew it.
I was dapping.
I had to give it up.
Pull that up.
Oh, my God.
Listen, this is with all due respect here.
Honestly, what we're talking about right now, we're talking about...
No, no.
Can I just clarify what we're talking about right now?
We're talking about her parents.
We're not even talking about her.
Her parents came together to create this.
Holy shit.
That's what I'm saying.
Welcome, motherfucker.
Can I take your order?
This is my painted nails.
Do we get some credit?
No, this is what is going on exactly.
What's happening even?
My God.
So she'll be in five ups.
Sean, creator of the show, he's a revolutionary.
Yo, Sam Levinson.
Sam Levinson needs a high five.
Sam Levinson needs a high five.
He's a different hand.
It's like, yes, right.
He's lefty.
You got to go lefty because my right is sore.
It's like Sam Levinson and then like Martin Luther King, just like right here.
Is it Martin Luther King, Martin Luther Krem?
Like, holy shit.
God damn it.
God.
Nah, he knows good TV.
Why we get away from that?
That's what I'm saying.
Why'd we ever get away from it?
Damn.
He's a 90s boy.
Son, can I be objective here?
Trouble, please.
Hurry up and get there.
Holy shit.
These young bitches got fat fucking titties.
I mean, Jesus Christ.
It is just, I think it's the vaccine, bro.
I'm going to be honest with you.
Titties like this wasn't out in the 1990s.
It wasn't out in the 2019, 2020 to 2020.
Post-pandemic titties.
Post-pandemic titties, bro.
It's that banana bread they were eating.
It's the vaccine.
It's the booster.
Thank Fauci for them shits.
Yo, Fauci, exonerated.
Fauci's been exonerated.
There we go.
He's trying to be moldy.
Just trying to get everybody's calcium and vitamin D in this world.
We need it.
You got Johnson and Johnson.
Can I be honest with you?
What do they say is the number one thing that protects you from COVID?
Vitamin Vitamin.
Double dirt.
Jesus.
Jesus Christ.
All right.
All right.
Listen.
She listened to still the show.
But this is all due respect to her family to put this together.
That greeting put this together.
I don't know.
How you grow your own titties out?
No, no, no.
I mean, yes.
Son, you can't admire a building without admiring the architect.
The something in the face, it looks.
Ow, ow, we're doing neck down today.
What am I doing?
What am I doing?
With all due respect, her wake up.
This is just with all due work.
I don't know about the work.
Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.
I'm sure incredibly talented.
But with all due respect.
She looked like a young Kate Moss face.
Think of young Kate Moss and then think of her face.
They look almost like what did Kate Moss not have?
She had that heroin chic look, but she did not have the vaccines.
She didn't have that vaccine.
She didn't have the vaccine.
She didn't have that.
No, Okay, but when I, you know how we can look at a tall person, we could be like, oh my God, they're so tall.
That's how we should be able to look at these physical specimens, these unique physical specimens.
We have to be able to admire an incredibly skinny girl with huge fat fucking dumpster fire.
We have to be able to.
Just like on the street, like an old lady's like, oh, you're so tall.
Did you play basketball?
Yeah, Karen gets that all the time.
Hodor gets that all the time.
How long are you?
Do you play basketball?
He goes, no, I have videos for high classes.
Exactly.
Right?
So what should other people be able to say about this?
No, I'm not saying that we should be able to go up to him and just fucking brew skim.
That's not what we should be able to do.
I don't think we should touch them.
I don't think, but to be able to talk about a skinny girl that, for whatever God-given reason, has just a super retarded fucking tits on her tits.
I mean, that is just so unique that we must be able to talk about it.
We have to reflect on it.
We would be inauthentic if we weren't talking about them.
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Doug, we're just appreciating God right now.
What do you think of the show?
Like the writing.
Honestly.
Honestly?
Why not?
Okay.
He didn't get to it.
No, I did.
I did.
I did.
Listen, who's seeing the show here?
I've seen it.
You seen it?
No, I haven't seen it.
What's happening?
What's it on?
Brazzers?
That's why they're so wild.
Yeah, that's why they don't know what's going on.
I don't see the vision.
I don't know.
You have to men of culture.
Listen, I mean, my girl describes me exactly how you described it.
So I understand where she's coming from, but I haven't seen it myself.
I mean, the last scene, bro, when he makes her Muslim, when he makes her a Muslim bride.
Do you remember that one?
Oh, my God.
I remember writing that shit back.
Oh, God.
Shows it a weekend.
Yeah, breathe, breathe.
Bro, there's a scene in it when she masturbates while choking herself.
Yeah.
It was very good.
This isn't just pointing.
It was artistic.
It was artistic.
Yeah, it was artistic.
Yeah, music is beautiful.
Shot, yeah, beautifully.
Beautiful, beautiful.
It was shot beautifully.
Yeah, you probably got a couple beautiful shots on it.
It's real life shit.
You don't choke yourself.
Come on.
You don't do that?
That's not your Tuesday.
Bro, but think about the dexterity because a lot of people can't rub their belly while they're doing it.
That's what I'm saying.
She can.
She was doing a kickoff.
Yeah.
That's kind of what she was doing.
But she was really getting in there.
I wonder if they put a pad or something.
Because if they didn't put a pad, she would definitely enjoy that.
Method acting, Doug.
It might be method acting.
That's real.
She does her own stunts, bro.
She really trades.
Okay.
She's Tom Cruise.
Can we talk about the story?
I don't even know if we're there yet.
Are you okay?
I have to pee.
Do you really?
Yeah.
I have to pee.
I'll be back in about 90 seconds.
That's all I need.
Okay, you go pee.
You go pee.
You go pee.
But we're going to keep talking.
Oh, yeah.
For sure.
For sure.
Because we can't stop.
I have to jerk off.
What are you new?
Now we have.
I thought it's an interesting perspective.
I think that I don't know what the rest of the season is going to be, but I called somebody who will remain nameless and I want to get their take on the show.
And he had an interesting thing to say because I think that this is going to show the artist side, what it's like to be a young artist who has all these handlers who maybe don't have your best interest at heart.
They have their best interest at heart, which is making money.
And there was a cool line in the show where she's talking to the weekend and she basically said, I don't know, maybe he says, why do you like me or something like that?
I don't know what it is.
He says, why do you like it?
I don't know what it is.
But she says a line like, she goes, when you're famous, nobody tells you the truth.
And I thought you'd be enough of an asshole to be honest with me.
And in that moment, I thought there was a beautiful line.
And I was like, oh, is that why you see these pop stars dating bad boys?
I thought, or religious figures, you know, Bieber had Carl Lentz, right?
And you see a bunch of what's it called that?
Britney Spears had Kevin Fetterline, et cetera, right?
And I'm like, is it with religion, with God, you can trust the honesty?
Because you're like, a man of God isn't going to lie to me.
Or is it with the bad boy?
You're like, they're just such an asshole.
They're going to speak to me and behave in a way that maybe isn't nice, but it's reminiscent of normalcy.
And they, I can actually trust you being mean to me, I can trust that.
Nobody's fake mean to each other, right?
Like being fake mean to someone doesn't make sense because you can't get anything from them.
So you almost trust that meanness more.
So I asked a friend about that.
And he had an interesting perspective.
He goes, he goes, I'm sure that's what the show will show, but I don't think that's what it is.
I think that these stars, and in order to be a star, this is not everybody, but most of these stars are unbelievable narcissists.
And dating the bad boys or even being with the religious figures is an act of rebellion.
It's still rebellion to those people who are handling them.
And it flames out once the love bombing stops because the only thing that they really care about is fulfilling their narcissism.
He goes, it is possible.
I go, is it possible to not be that narcissist and still be successful?
Like, I understand why it's, I understand why it's an advantage, but like it's kind of gross.
And I've spoken to these people and like, there has to be another way to do it.
He goes, there is a version of it where talent can trumpet.
Ed Sheeran is so talented that he can also be a good guy.
Yeah.
Now, that's not to say that people don't have like, there's a spectrum of narcissism.
We all have some of it.
We want to get on stage in front of people.
We're recording this podcast.
We want to do these things.
Without narcissism, there's not a lot of incentive to do this.
100%.
But you can also be low enough on the scale where you can be a good person to your friends and family and the whole world doesn't literally have to revolve around you and what you need to get done.
And that becomes very isolating, I can imagine.
Now, I think we're going to hear it all from the artist's perspective, but I thought that that perspective was really interesting about famous people and about the relationships they get in and how like the act of rebellion is still serving the narcissism.
And they get rid of that person that they're dating the second that that narcissism can't serve.
Maybe this is where we start talking about Taylor Swift, right?
It's like Taylor's 34 years old.
Every single boyfriend, it's this fucking machine that she runs them through, a huge calamity.
They also get famous for good or for bad.
This thing with her current boyfriend, she just broke up with, Matt Healy, who's, I guess, a lead singer of this band, 1975.
And he's also a fan of like comedy podcasts.
I think he was on show.
And he had some jokes, I guess, about Ice Spice.
Okay.
All of a sudden, Ice Spice comes out on Taylor's tour.
Now, granted, she is a huge artist right now.
So that could have been already planned, but it could have been a PR move to protect.
She comes out on Taylor's tour.
And then a couple days later, Taylor breaks up with the 1975 guy.
Right?
Yeah.
Coincidence?
Yeah, when you put it like that, it don't seem like it.
I wonder if she even knows.
I wonder if Taylor's just in this like narcissism spin cycle where it's like whatever feeds the beast, whatever is necessary to feed the beast, she will eat.
And the beast is building up and becoming the most successful artist in history.
And she's arguably there, one of them.
Right.
But I wonder if she can even tell the difference.
Like in the same way that like Kardashians dating people, it's like, I do like him.
Well, do I like him?
I don't know.
But I like the attention that I get from liking him and dating him.
And maybe that's the same feeling of me actually liking someone's personality and enjoying their company.
And when you're feeling good, you're not distinguishing what's making you feel good.
Exactly.
That's a lot of analysis to say, what's making me feel good?
Do I really like this person?
Do I like the attention?
Like, what is it that's actually serving?
Yeah, it's hard to discern what it is, especially if you have like a tumultuous childhood.
Like you'll yearn for the love that your parents gave you, even if it wasn't good.
You know what I mean?
Like if your parents were like...
Yeah, explain that.
Like if your parents were like cold to you, like for some people, they'll like yearn for like a cold love from like other people or from partners because that's what their parents gave them.
That's what they're supposed to learn love.
And that's what they think that it is.
And that's what feels good to them.
So like, again, I don't know what her childhood was, but like if she's looking for spectacle and like attention through her relationships, that might have been what it felt like with her parents or something.
And so she might not even be able to discern because she's like, oh, yeah, this is what my whole life has been.
This is what childhood is.
This is what love is.
Interesting.
I actually, I think she might have gotten into the pattern of using her dating life as a crush.
inspiration.
So it's like at this point, we've seen it happen so many times where it's like, okay, what's my new muse?
Dude, that is so fucking true.
You hear about this a lot of time in like fashion with like designers having a muse, right?
There's a model that they really like, a singer, a person.
Kanye.
Kanye, right?
Like, so interesting muses.
Yeah.
And, but basically, he, yeah, that's really interesting.
You get to a certain level of success.
And she is at the top of it, right?
I'm sure you guys may have even felt like we get a little bit more comfortable.
There's less things irritating you.
Like when we're in Miami, nothing was irritating me.
It was hard to write jokes.
Like life was just so good.
I was just enjoying everything.
Imagine that time's a million when you're Taylor Swift.
You're fucking almost at a B. You can do whatever you want, you know, the biggest tour in the world.
What is the motivation to write?
What is the motivation to sing?
What is the motivation to pour your heart out?
Maybe that only comes in the form of these relationships and heartache.
So she's seeking it out to fill the beast that is this creative machine.
And maybe she doesn't even notice to give her some credit, because I do think she does it intentionally, but maybe it just happens like your brain associates.
Oh, I date a guy, break up with a guy, I get more famous.
It's all just good feelings.
Like the breakup, I just write a song about it.
Everybody thinks I'm great and they're shitty and I get more famous and more love and more isolation.
And to defend her, I would say like, why can't she talk about her relationships?
Why can't she talk about her experiences?
We're comics.
Like we, we would talk about the things that go on in our lives 100%.
We're on a podcast talking about dating, talking about our wives, talking about all these things.
So it's not weird that she doesn't.
But just seeking out experiences and people in order to do it.
That's where it's like.
Do you know comedy?
I would also love the Taylor Swift song that's like, I fucked up too.
I love that song.
Hey, I made some mistakes too.
She got a couple songs like that.
Oh, she does.
I'm the problem.
It's me.
Kick Swifty.
Yeah.
That's self-aware.
Yeah, I'm not familiar enough with the music.
I mean, I know, obviously, the bangers, but I don't know the music enough to like say if she's completely self-aware about what's going on.
I also think it's very easy to criticize the people who are most successful.
So I want to make sure we're being fair.
Oh, she's for talent-wise, it's insane.
She's unbelievable.
Her mature is amazing, apparently.
Everybody who's gone to it has said it's incredible.
Like she's putting on a concert for hours in these stadiums and 40 songs.
Yeah.
So I just wanted to give one take.
So the show, The Idol, how the girl is like your theory, she might be a narcissist and that's why she gets with these bad boys to push back against the technology.
Take to rebel.
I think it could also possibly be, you know, how like people in authoritative roles, they sometimes have like kinks that they want to be like shamed.
Like they'll go to a dominatrix or some shit like that to be some mistake.
And so I think somebody like Leo and Wolf of Wall Street.
Yeah.
So somebody in that role, it's like they have all these yes people around them, all these people that are just nice and they want to hear it no.
Yeah.
So it's just having one person that could be like, tell me no once in a while.
So she, she's in such a power position that the lack of control or lack of power is what would turn her off.
Yeah.
Because think about that.
Like she choked herself.
So it's like she's only getting off by like having to cut off oxygen to her body just so she can get off.
Yeah.
And then he does, he does a very similar thing to her.
Oh, nobody in her life would ever do something like that to him.
Right.
Yeah.
I think that might be what they're, that's why I also think specifically young stars, it's so difficult because they don't have the opportunity to build real friendships before they're famous.
Because if you can build real friendships before you're famous or on the way up, you can have a level of honesty with people.
If you're famous at 14, you have friends, but nobody even knows what's going on at 14 years old.
You don't even know if you like each other.
You just both like the fact that you make jokes about the teacher in math class.
There's not a lot of real connective tissue there.
So you don't have the opportunity to build those real friends.
And then all the friends that you make in your early adult years, you're like, do these people only like me because they're successful?
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, man.
And you don't even know who you are, really.
100%.
Like, we all thought we knew who we were at 19, 20, 21.
We had no fucking clue.
And we didn't have people telling us who we are at 19 or 20.
Oh, yeah.
We had the opportunity to find it.
We just didn't.
Yeah.
That you got your publicist telling you you're this person.
You got your agent telling you you're this person.
Also, all your friends are also famous.
And when you're 18 and not famous and you say some dumb shit, your friends could be like, shut the fuck up.
They will.
They're they're going to be like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's good.
That's good.
Keep doing that.
And everybody's singularly focused on this one thing.
And each person is almost like a lily pad on your way there.
You know, so it's like, you don't know if that's a true friendship or if it's being around you as clout.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The insecurity you must feel.
I understand why a lot of them probably abuse drugs.
It's just like to ease that anxiety.
Yeah.
Every interaction you're anxious.
Everything you tell somebody, you're like, oh my God, are they going to tell that to TMZ?
Imagine how many times you get your heart broken by the people you trust the most.
Like, and you just have no trust for anybody.
That's also probably why it's hard to make these relationships work.
Yeah.
Because just from you don't trust anybody.
Like, how do you, everything seems transactional.
Everybody seems like they want something from me.
Why would I trust you to be different?
Yeah.
Just because you're famous too?
No.
You're narcissist just like me.
You're probably getting some out of this just like me.
It's tough, dude.
It's it's not like it's they're such victims and it's a hard life, but that aspect, that ain't easy.
Bro, you could see why God is helpful.
Like if you have, if you're very religious, oh, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Because you have someone who tells you no.
Yeah.
There's at least one person who's like, no, bad.
You're doing this wrong.
And you are told as a famous person by everybody on your team, you're the biggest person.
But God is, if you're religious, God is always the biggest person.
Exactly.
Everything I do serves God.
And then these guys, everything they do serves me.
If I don't have God, whether it's people actually do that or not, or religion gets applied, but the theory of God.
Comparing doing it to with God or without.
Yes.
Is what I'm saying.
It's like, if like if you knew your kid wanted to be famous, like make him a Catholic or something.
Like Jewish, Catholic, Muslim, like just give them something Hindu, but just like lock that in as well.
So there's something that is grounding for them.
Like Rami's a great example.
Rami's super religious.
And if you talk to Rami, you don't get the sense that he's like angling or narcissistic or any, he just so it's all serving God.
And there's this groundedness to him that you really admire.
And that's a guy who does religion correctly, I think.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Also, you're ideally your imam, your pastor, your what is the Jewish ones?
What are they called?
Your rabbi.
That's my rabbit.
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Like ideally, like they don't care about your fame.
Like they're going to be impressed by your fame.
Don't get me wrong, but like not more than they're impressed by God's fame.
So it's like, if you're, don't get not all of them.
People are flawed.
But if you have a good one that's like, listen, I'm the biggest celebrity of my life is God.
Yeah.
It's cool that you do this thing and shit, but that's the biggest celebrity in my life.
Yeah.
And so when you're acting wild, he's going to sit you down and be like, yo, you know, like, let's, is this the guy that you want to be?
Is this the person you want to be?
Is this the girl that you want to be?
Yeah, it's an advantage.
And that's probably why these guys seek out spiritual advisors because you need somebody.
And again, people can misuse it.
A lot of these people are saying that Scientology, it's all these things.
They're craving some sort of normal to sit you down and say, hey, man, are you serving something larger than yourself?
Because we all want to feel like we are.
Yo, sorry, speaking of Scientology, you heard my man was raping?
Yeah, hide, dude.
Yeah, the Danny Masterson.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was method, bro.
My man was keeping his 70s, bro.
He was keeping his 70s.
He was super 70s.
That trial has been going on for 20 years, I feel.
Because they've been out there forever, bro.
Yeah.
They were out there so long.
I'm like, yeah, he had to have been.
Yeah.
Yeah, if it keeps going, right?
Yeah, it's crazy.
Apparently, they had like insiders from Scientology testify at the trial or something like that that basically were saying how Scientology was trying to help cover up the story and like silence the accusers or whatever.
Yo, that is great marketing for Scientology.
People act like it's bad, but it's great.
We will hold you down.
Think about it.
Like, think about it.
Yeah, that's horrendous.
That's horrendous.
Everybody already thinks Scientology people are the weirdest people on the planet, right?
Like nobody is going, ah, they're just normal, like religious folks.
I think you're only speaking from a man's point of view, to be honest.
And I don't normally criticize that, but I don't think a woman is going to be like, yo, they be letting you rape this.
I know that right now.
You got to get there.
But what if she's thinking, oh, if they'll defend a rapist, they'll defend me when I get a DY.
Yeah, but I might get raped and then they're going to cover up the rape.
I'm assuming he didn't do that to Scientology girls.
Intimacy Coordinator Rules00:04:07
Oh, I'm assuming he did to whoever.
I'm assuming this is when he was a fuckboy in Hollywood running around with, yeah.
So this is pre-Scientology, or this is like, I'm getting into Scientology, but I'm still a fuckboy and I'm still hitting doing a party scene because he was doing a party with a scene with the Yo Mama with Fez or whatever.
Wilmer Belder.
Yeah, right.
And it's like.
Don't put that on Fez, bro.
Yeah, I don't know what Fez did.
And again, we don't know.
I'm not saying how it went down, but Fez fucked everybody.
Like his list of celebs he fucked is crazy.
Really?
It's crazy.
Especially for like where he was.
Yeah, I know that.
Wilmerhead game, bro.
Yeah.
The roster is bananas.
He ran it down on Howard Stern one time and it's like, yo, this guy fucked everybody.
He had a nice run.
A successful Latin lover release on the Hollywood.
Also, weirdly, before him, Scott Bayo fucked everybody.
That's how I heard it all.
Okay, I didn't get it.
He was a stud.
Charles in Charge.
Put some respect.
Yeah, it was one of the greatest shows ever.
I liked Charles in Charge, right?
Of our days and the night.
I don't remember the song, but Charles in Charge.
This guy.
Hey, how handsome that motherfucker is?
I fucked everyone, dude.
He looks like Bob Sagett's kid.
Yeah, he does.
Where'd his lips go?
Come on, come on, come on.
He got the man.
Andrews right now.
So he's too fucking cold in here, though.
Can you please?
Andrews, right?
Okay, so you better start looking like Lily Rose.
So I might show some side titty on the next episode.
Do you think they just always like that?
Or before the scenes, they take somebody's head.
I stuffed him.
I stuffed him.
Yo, that used to be.
That's a lot of ice.
Can I be honest with you?
They used to be, that used to be regular.
That was one of the things that stopped her and me, too, which is why they even had this.
But they stopped having girls ice their titties before scenes.
That used to be before every scene.
Get your titties hard.
Director.
Every scene?
Every scene?
Every movie?
Look at every scene where there's a Findler's list?
Oh, yeah.
Every scene of every movie.
Son, every scene.
Obviously, of movies where there's like an attractive lead.
White t-shirt, hard nipples.
You can't find a soft nipple.
That's the Jennifer Anderson.
That should be a bit of a damn thing.
Jennifer Anderson.
Yeah, yeah, friends all the time.
Every single scene.
They know what they're doing.
They was getting in there.
They was getting in there.
Dove, can you confirm the director was like, yo, perk it up.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
So before intimacy coordinators, it was whatever director, whatever they are.
Oh, that shit's a real thing that intimacy coordinators.
It makes so much sense to have it.
I mean, it sounds crazy, but it's like, oh, this is a pretty intense signal.
There's so much to make that.
Can I tell you something?
Fake fuck here.
Real quick, there's a scene in it, right, where like she's according, according to her NDA, she's not allowed to be nude.
And this is in the idol.
Contract.
Contract.
Yeah.
Nudity clause.
There's a nudity clause.
Nude rider.
Yeah, the nude rider.
So she's not allowed to be like fully nude.
You can sort of side titty or whatever.
And she wants to go nude.
She's like, it's my body.
I'm making the decision.
I want to do it.
And then the guy who was the intimacy coordinator goes, that's fine, but it takes 48 hours for that decision to go through.
So we'd have to shoot later.
And at first, you're like, yo, this is fucked up.
This is this girl's body.
Why can't she do what she wants with her body?
And then they explain it, which is we need to make sure you're not being coerced.
And I thought it was kind of a cool look into it because at first I was like, yo, wow, there's this rule here that is completely robbing this woman of her agency, but it's actually to protect the girl from making a decision while she's drunk or all these other things.
So somebody's fucking these rules are good.
Yeah, I've seen that on a set before.
And the actor will be like, I don't want to like let that, you know, just a sexy that doesn't need to be fully nude.
You're like, why does it need to be this?
But nobody asked me that shit.
Nobody asked me that shit for my gay scene.
Wait, there was no intimacy coordinator.
There was no intimacy coordinator.
Pre-me too.
Epstein Island Secrets00:11:15
But also he wanted it.
He did.
I wouldn't have changed.
He was actually asking 48 hours.
Yeah.
So fuck that.
Yo, can we talk about this alien?
There's aliens every time.
We could, we shouldn't have started with the idol, bro.
Why?
Because now you can't think of anything else.
Nipples, bro?
Yeah, they're out of this world.
Let's talk about the aliens, bro.
Yes, let's go.
Hey, this UFO guy.
He got nipples?
Yeah.
Do you know about this?
No.
So basically, there's this guy that works high up.
I forget exactly which agency he worked in, but apparently, and I guess it's... David Groosh.
He's an Air Force veteran.
He's a former intelligence official, and he was assigned to the UAP Task Force, which is the unidentified aerial either aerial or anomalous.
Anomalous phenomena.
Phenomena.
So it's a new term for UFOs.
Yeah.
And so basically he's coming out and he's petitioning Congress to, I have notes here.
That's why I have my phone.
But to reveal the evidence that they have that we have actual spacecraft from aliens.
We have wreckage and spacecraft that is, I guess, in its entirety.
And apparently also pirates.
Pilots.
Yeah.
Whoa.
That's fucking crazy.
That's where it's going to be.
It gets very exciting.
You're very exciting, et cetera.
We all want to believe it or whatever.
But here's the thing that he admits.
He claims he has no proof.
Yep.
He has never seen it before.
No, no, sorry.
He claims he's never seen it.
He claims he has proof, but it's all hearsay from people who are involved with these agencies.
To me, this is a guy who's really into aliens.
He believes they're real.
He's dedicated his life to become part of the Air Force.
And now he's part of all these committees where he's thinking he's getting closer and closer and closer.
And he just wants to know.
And then he heard some fucking rumor for some dude.
Oh, we got spacecraft and we got something weird.
Maybe it wasn't even spacecraft.
It's just like, hey, we got something weird.
I don't know what the hell it is, but I've never heard of these materials before.
And I think he just flipped and went off the deep end.
And his obsession made him go, I'm this close.
I just have to know.
I just have to know how this happened.
It was kind of just why are we giving this guy any attention?
If you don't got no proof, he says he has proof.
So he says he hasn't come out with it.
Yeah, why don't he come out with it?
He's going to Congress with it because he is.
This is the thing where it gets a little goofy.
He goes, sharing it would be a violation of what is it called?
When you have a special access, what is that called?
Clearance violation.
Yeah, it's a clearance violation.
Shut the fuck up, bro.
You dry snitching.
But he gets a congressional pardon if, or like, he's able to be protected as a whistleblower if he brings it up through Congress.
Whereas if he just leaks it, then he can go to prison.
Yeah.
Whatever, dog.
So my man wants to know.
He doesn't know.
Then he just don't do it.
Yeah.
But also, like, what happened to the trusts and the people that we hire to work for these agencies?
Like, if you part of the men in black, don't tell motherfuckers that you work for it.
That's part of the job.
You get to know about the aliens, or you get to know about, you know, what the top dudes say you can know about.
And then that's it.
Why can't they just tell us about aliens, though?
There's no aliens.
Because we don't have a big enough thing yet.
Trump would have showed us.
That motherfucker, he's like Andrew with the fucking secret.
Maybe they didn't tell Trump.
Yeah.
You know, I think they can't tell us.
Maybe David Gorsh knew it, but Trump didn't.
Think about that.
Fuck out there.
I don't think the president knows everything.
I don't believe they tell the president everything.
I think they're also selective with who the president is.
Like these guys aren't like, here's the protocol.
The president gets to know everything.
But anybody who didn't do anything Trump wanted, he fired them.
Got rid of Comey.
He's like, isn't that what you do when you're the boss?
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
So they can also just lie to him.
Yeah, but they could just lie to him and be like, no, there's nothing.
There's, yeah.
We'll tell you some stuff, but there's nothing there.
It's very easy to lie to somebody.
What's the first question you ask him when you're president?
You want to kill JFK so I can know who's forgetting me.
You really want to know about that?
I do think it was Oswald, but I'm curious.
You think it was Oswald?
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't care about that JFK shit, man.
Then why do you, you're so passionate about this?
Yeah, that's not my first question.
It's not my first question.
What's your first question?
Where are the aliens at?
You want to know aliens?
That's yours?
Aliens will be fired because that has so many geopolitical implications.
It's like, okay, shit.
Now we have like spacecraft.
Are we using it?
What's going on?
Oh, no.
Now, what's your first question?
Where's Monica?
I was like, yo, where'd Bill get topped off?
He doesn't get that, man.
He knows it.
Yeah.
Where'd that happen?
I mean, the point is the question, will they actually tell you the truth, though?
Yeah, yeah, they'll tell you the truth.
It's three wishes.
It's three wishes.
You have three things.
They go, listen, we'll tell you three things.
You ask three things.
We'll tell you the answer.
And the answer might be no.
You might ask, are there aliens?
They go, we don't know.
But that is the truth.
You have three things you can get the truth for.
What do you ask?
Who actually runs it?
Like, who's actually running this whole thing?
That's a good one.
Yeah.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
Now, you have to be careful because you might learn some of these things by being president.
I imagine if you're president, you're going to interface with the people who are actually running the country.
Yeah.
So don't waste one of your wishes on that.
But you get brought into the room immediately.
Three things you can know.
What about like, what's the technology coming in like 15, 20 years?
They're wildly at it.
In 15, 20, or what do we have now that nobody knows about technological technological?
Yeah, in my mind, those are one and the same.
Like what we have now that nobody knows about is going to become technology is available.
I see what you're saying.
Okay.
So you want to know what is our most high tech.
Nobody knows about it.
Okay.
Okay.
That's fire.
That's fire.
Al, anything else?
No follow-ups?
Come on.
The important thing.
Where did Trump get topped off?
I would want to know JFK to kill JFK.
Thank you.
I want to know the Epstein shit.
I'm interested in that.
I'm like, just explain the whole Epstein thing.
Who's connected?
Just break it.
Yeah, break the whole thing down.
Break the whole thing down.
Yeah, that'd be good.
I just want to know it.
I just want to know.
It's annoying.
It's right there.
How much is Alex Jones right about?
Yeah, I don't know about that.
That's a good question.
You see, the island got sold, Epstein's Island.
Bro, this is crazy.
Some dude bought it for like a couple mil.
Wild.
And now it's just bought it from who?
So I guess it maybe got like surrendered to the government or something.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know how it works, but he was able to buy it.
Now he's trying to like a resort.
I mean, was it a part of the year?
It's crazy.
Yeah, I think it's a Virgin Islands.
Yeah.
So who'd they buy it?
Oh, no, it's not.
Not for long.
Yeah, I guess the Virgin Islands is a municipality of England or something.
I think.
It was Virgin Islands and British.
I think it was British.
I don't know.
Anyway, yeah, that's a wild.
I mean, whoever buys it, they have to make sure there's nothing.
They, before them, the they is here have to make sure that there's nothing left on that island.
Like, I'm sure we've had American soldiers on the island, right?
Looking for all.
Yeah, I'm sure they sweep the entire.
I mean, there's videos of just people going to it.
I've seen a couple of those on YouTube.
Like, they'll just fly a drone over it and it's like crazy.
Snoop around.
But I'd like to know that.
That'd be cool.
That seems like the biggest conspiracy of our generation.
You're going to know like all the kiddie fuckers.
Except you might be like one right next to you.
I mean, powerful.
If I'm putting kids, it's not on Epstein's Island, bro.
You got to start somewhere.
Yeah, someone bought it for $60 million and they want to make a resort out of it.
That's crazy.
One article, like, oh, where's the resort?
Oh, it's Epstein's Island.
But, you know, I have a question about that.
Like, how long, how much time has to pass before we forget something awful happened in an area and we could put something fun there?
Soon, as soon as I can get a deal on it, yeah, exactly.
Literally, there's a huge answer.
So, yeah, I would, but making a resort is crazy because so many people can make the judgment of it.
If it was just your, you got a deal, you're flattening the house and redoing it, and that's your island now.
If a woman got raped in the apartment before you, but because that happened, you got a discount on it.
Are you not so good?
How big of a discount?
But he would.
I'm not doing it.
No broker fee?
I'm doing it immediately.
I'm not doing it.
What happened there previously doesn't matter.
That shit is foul.
It's a bad energy in that place.
Man and God and energy.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, we're all in Indian ball.
All the bad energy that goes on.
In a certain amount of time, we forget about what happened.
If it happened in my, I was thinking this: if it happened when you asked, if it happened in my lifetime, I'm not going to be cool with it.
My kids will probably be cool with it.
Their kids will for sure not give a fuck about Epstein's Island.
So it's the next generation.
We'll be like, yeah, it's not that big of a deal.
And the generation after will absolutely not give a fuck.
Yeah.
No.
I mean, this is a horrible thing to say, but like on all those islands in the Caribbean, there is absolutely disgusting amounts of slavery.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like repulsive.
I mean, I grew up in Texas.
Yeah.
And then all those places where there were sugar cane plantations and, you know, just awful slavery are now resorts.
So there's a certain amount of time where you can put a resort over a tragedy.
Also, in the house is different.
Like living in a home that was a plantation and it's the same home, it just feels you got to move the foundation somewhere else.
You destroy that house.
You build something new.
It's going to feel different.
Can I tell y'all something?
No, no, no.
A couple layers of paint.
Yeah.
That's what they're doing.
I could live in a house.
I could live in an apartment where someone got murdered before me, but a house would be spooky.
But an apartment?
Like, if someone got murdered in the apartment, I don't know.
Like, that's small.
All the other apartments around you, maybe?
What do you mean?
Like, you just feel a little bit.
There's like 100 apartments here.
This one happened to have one badge.
If you're a ghost, you live in like a co-op.
Yo, you a broke.
You are a broke ghost.
Like, you loser.
Like, come on, bro.
Like, level up doing, man.
Like, get out of here.
They're in the same co-op you live in.
Yeah.
But you could go through walls.
I got to sleep somewhere.
Yeah, go live.
Find a house in Long Island.
Live.
Yeah, go to the Hamptons.
But is that holding on to this project?
You're going to hold the studio.
Isn't that what they say?
Ghosts are.
We should ask Charlotte, man.
Aren't ghosts confined to the area where the thing happens?
Yeah.
They be saying that shit.
Move on, yo.
This shit was never.
You rented.
You can't even.
Yo, you can't be a ghost in an apartment you rent.
Yeah, you're on the lease.
You're out of here.
You were out of here four years anyway.
Like, no, sorry.
God.
If you got a mortgage, it's different.
If you're a ghost mortgage, that's fine.
If you own the home, you could be a ghost.
You're entitled to that.
But if you were renting.
Some white shit.
Hey, ghost, why don't you just go colonize a new house?
Yeah, you deserve new land.
Yeah, you deserve it.
You got a deviced ghost, bro.
Afterlife, you deserve it.
Go get yourself.
Stephen A Skip Banter00:14:40
I'm not living on that fucking Epstein Island, though.
Did they say what LA Comic bought it or does that not out there?
I just Jewish billionaire.
Of course you bought it.
Swear to God.
Do you think he bought it as like a cover-up or what?
Financier Steven Deckoff.
I'm like, really?
Founder of the Black Diamond Secret guy?
He's the founder of what?
Black Diamond Capital.
Black Diamond.
It just sounds evil, bro.
Yeah, it just sounds so evil.
Wow.
Black is black.
Yeah, bro.
Black Rock Capital.
That's why it's Black Rock is the evil one, and Black Diamond is like just a bootleg version of it.
That's why I was thinking.
Oh, okay.
Also that.
All right, what else we got, my boy?
Shannon Sharp leaving Skip is really interesting.
So Skip leaves first take with Stephen A. Starts a show on FSN, FS1.
FS1 or whatever.
Gets a bag.
Yeah.
Gets a bag.
Supposed to be no name channel.
Nobody gives a fuck about.
Builds it up into viral sensation.
Yeah.
Finds an unbelievable talent in Shannon Sharp.
Shannon is memes.
Shannon is culture.
Shannon is, I mean, sayings.
Like his energy is infectious.
I mean, he's just incredible.
Shannon decides that he no longer wants to be part of the show.
Leaves.
Why do you guys think that he left?
I think Skip is insufferable after a certain point.
I think there's a lot of shit you'll put up with because Skip will have the crazy take that you can bounce off of and you know how to play with Skip.
You'll elevate your profile.
But I think, and again, I have listened to Skip since I was a kid in Dallas before he was famous.
He started on Tiki Wiki.
When I started, he started like when TikiWiki started.
None of those guys have really great experiences with Skip overall.
Right.
So I just, at a certain point, you're like, you know what?
I don't need this.
Also, the ratings on the show weren't actually good.
Clips would go viral, but the ratings on the show itself weren't that great.
So I think you're just like, I'll just go to the mouse at ESPN.
Oh, do you think Shannon is offered something over at the mouse?
I think he can leverage something good out of this.
And he's like, I don't need to put up with this anymore.
I think it's a good thing.
It's got to be a money thing.
Yeah, I think for someone to leave, like, there's got to be money somewhere else plus like a hostile work environment.
Like for some reason for them to go and then some other way to get the same or more money somewhere else.
I agree.
But there's a combination of both.
Like, I want my own thing.
I could probably get a bigger bag someplace else.
I've built up my name.
Like, people tune into the show probably for me a little bit more.
Like, you see my memes go crazy.
And he has his own podcast.
So he's really doing his solo thing already.
Yeah.
So yeah, I think it's just a play for the next venture.
I think he probably saw Skip as a come up from the beginning.
He probably knew what he was getting into.
And then he, I think that's why he started doing Club Shashay, which is his podcast early on.
As he built this thing, he started building for himself very quickly.
I'm sure people talked to him and he talked to people and he was like, all right, this is what this is.
I know how to play with this guy.
He'll say some crazy shit.
I'll have fun as me.
I'll use him.
I'll raise my profile and then I'm out.
And I think Skip might be salty because he's used to using.
Is he used to using?
I'm like, I don't know what, I think what Skip did was unbelievable.
He built it again.
Like he built, first take hasn't been the same since Skip.
They going through different hoes.
You know, it didn't work for the bad.
It's the highest rated show on ESPN.
Regardless if it's rated, it's not culturally relevant in the way it was with Stephen A and Skip.
We can all acknowledge that.
No, here's where I give some pushback.
I don't disagree with you or think you're wrong, but I think that generation still cares about ratings because that's what drives their salaries.
Being culturally relevant at ESPN, they haven't figured out how to monetize that.
So they're going off of who gives us ad dollars?
Ratings gives us ad dollars.
This show matters.
Yeah, but one, I don't think the ratings are what they used to be.
Then I, yeah, but that's TV.
Exactly.
So what matters to me is the cultural relevance that you're going to get from all the clips going viral on Instagram or Twitter or different accounts picking them up, et cetera.
Like to me, that's how I'm looking at a show being successful.
And then they have to find other ways to monetize that.
But I'm like, okay, this is success.
And the reality is like Stephen A is a fucking superstar, but he hasn't found that other person to bounce off of in the same way that he did.
Stephen A, one of the best qualities that he has is his ability to condescend hilariously.
He is awesome at condescending.
And he had the perfect foil in Skip, a guy who's saying absolutely ludicrous takes.
And then this eloquent dude who is just condescending the shit out of him, right?
Telling him why he's wrong and bullying him.
And it was magic.
And they haven't been able to replicate it.
I mean, Max was too logical.
Stephen A couldn't condescend.
It just came with like logical facts every single time.
And it's like, this isn't entertaining.
You're making a great argument.
I have to fucking agree.
Yeah.
And if you like, it just didn't work.
Some of the funniest clips is where people have cut up.
You see Skip arguing against himself.
Oh, yeah.
Have you seen Skip arguing Aaron Rodgers against himself?
Oh, that's hilarious.
If you can pull it up, it's like, it's not, it's unbelievable.
But he is pure entertainment.
Like, that's the way I look at him.
It's like he doesn't care about sports.
He cares.
He is an actor.
Yes.
That's a great way to put it.
He is trying to say the funniest thing in the moment.
I hope Stephen A and Sharp aren't behind the scenes planning to do a show together.
I don't think it would work.
They have too much respect for one another.
They kind of play the same role on the show.
So it's like, who's going to be the skip?
I mean, Stephen A needs someone he could be an asshole to.
And Skip provides you all the opportunities to be an asshole to him.
Yes.
He is an asshole.
So it's like, it was magic.
And yeah, everybody else that they've matched Stephen A with, Stephen A is just so interesting that he's going to be able to carry whatever the fuck he's on.
I have no question about that.
But in order to get that fucking lightning rod that was first take, I mean, it was, you had to watch it.
This is when nobody was watching TV anymore.
Everyone still watched first take.
Are you watching first take now?
No, I wasn't watching first take ever, but yeah, I don't, what?
I, yeah.
You never watched it.
Because I was like, they're both just playing characters.
As great as Stephen A is, he's still, I don't think he believes everything he says.
I know Skip doesn't believe anything he says.
So for me, it was like, all right, well, I'll just watch Sports Center and see what's actually happening.
But I know I'm the exception because I was the highest rated show on ASPN.
So I'm not saying I'm right.
Now, what I will say is, I do think Steven and Shannon could make it work.
It won't be the same dynamic at all.
I don't think so.
But I think they're talented and smart enough to make it work.
I don't think so.
It'll be different, but I think it'll be good.
And also, I think Stephen A, it's cool that he won't ever dog out Skip because what they did together, but he says little things.
Even just him saying, like, Steve, as Skip came to me and begged me, let's do a show.
I need this, we need this, whatever.
And then he had a message to Shannon on video.
He's like, Shannon hasn't told me why he left.
I have a pretty good idea.
I think I know.
I think Stephen A is taking little shots at Skip.
Like, he's acknowledging working with Skip sucks.
Well, why do that after it's done?
Because you got to say something.
Because if you're in a shitty work environment, you never, at a certain point, you just, you say little things that come out.
It just happens.
Ego, unresolved tension.
Unresolved tension in him, I guess.
More than ego, but ego for sure.
Stephen A is great, but he got an ego.
He'll tell you that.
So I think there's a little bit of that.
Yeah, I hope that Stephen A and Shannon don't do it together.
I don't think that's the show.
I think Stephen A needs a pompous guy to talk to.
Who was that fat guy that gave horrible takes on one of the other channels?
Fat, chubby black guy.
Fuck.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, Whitlock.
Yes.
Jason Whitlock.
Jason Whitlock.
Slander.
Oh, I mean, that would be non-stop.
That would be non-stop between the two of them.
That would be great.
Fireworks.
I think Whitlock has just made himself so toxic with some of his takes.
Perfect.
ESPN probably couldn't hire.
Oh, but he would be so good.
But exactly that.
That type of person who's going to have incredibly strong opinions that Stephen A could condescend to, and it would be masterful.
But you have to be strong in those.
I think there's a little bit that's happening that with Perk right now.
With Kendrick Perkins.
They found a little bit of a dynamic right there where...
JJ Reddick is trying to make it.
Oh, it's amazing.
And you hear this heavy ass breathing.
JJ Reddick is on first take.
Yeah.
Okay.
Stephen A, JJ Reddick, and Kendrick Perkins are on personal take.
Perk is not even on the screen.
You just hear this breathing.
JJ Reddick is making some really smart basketball point.
He's amazing.
And then he goes, stop midpoint.
He goes, Perk, is that you breathing on a microphone?
What is that?
That's awful.
Stephen A comes in.
He goes, yeah, are you dying over there?
What the hell is that?
I mean, sports commentary kind of needs less facts.
It's inherently a subjective thing.
Like you're debating people being good at like sports.
Like it's inherently like there's some data, but it's really kind of subjective.
That's why it's fun because there is no right or wrong.
And so I think it's almost better.
Like, who's the dude that was like, I'm taking Igodala?
Who was it?
Oh, Max Kellerman.
Yeah.
That was the most illogical thing Max Kellerman has ever said in the history of sports.
And it's the funniest thing he's ever said.
And it's viral.
Yeah.
It's like you almost want less facts.
Yeah, that's why Skips commentary.
If we really want to call it what it is, that's why Skip's the GOAT.
No, no, no, no.
Listen, Stephen A is the greatest in terms of like journalism.
Skip is the greatest in terms of creating an entertaining show because he did it again.
He recreated first take with a guy that we all knew Shannon Sharp, but we didn't know him as a broadcaster.
And another superstar emerges.
Give it a shot.
Stephen A. kept it bubbling even once that guy left.
Yeah, because you still, nobody watches.
Go go.
Nobody watches Undisputed.
Every clip I watch from Undisputed that goes viral that I remember is Shannon.
It's Shannon.
But Shannon needs, what I'm trying to say is he's the kingmaker.
Shannon needs somebody to react to.
What we like about Shannon is the passion.
What we like about Shannon is the excitement, right?
And he's finding a way to get that out of him.
You got to give him credit, man.
You can't do it twice.
I mean, maybe the greatest B-Mite.
Great.
Call him a B-mite.
But again, he's creating the show, right?
He created first take.
Didn't he say, I want Stephen A. Smith?
No, I thought he Stephen A. Smith had for maybe I'm wrong.
I think Stephen A. Smith had first shaken.
He was like, get me on this show.
No.
That's the way Stephen A. Smith tells it of Skip like begging him, basically.
Oh, I thought it was, I'm not doing the show unless it's with Stephen A. Smith.
That's what Skip said.
I think they both have different.
I don't know.
And then there was a little tension because Stephen A. Smith told the story like that.
Something along the lines of what I said.
And Skip was annoyed by that.
And Stephen A. Smith had to clear the air and say, This is what it was or whatever.
But his retelling is, I think, Skip came to him and said, I need to do this.
But also, to what I was going to say, the moments I remember going viral from Undisputed, with Stephen A. Smith, he needs to condescend.
With Shannon, it's pulling out the fucking Henny and the black and mild and then just going, Skim.
And that's not even, he'll do that with anybody.
Skip.
Skim.
It's just him being a fucking camera.
So here's my pushback on that.
He has a podcast where he interviews people.
Yeah.
Any clip that's going viral from that podcast is the guest.
All the clips that go viral from the show with him and Skip are him.
And Skip is bringing something out of him.
Just like he brought the best, most entertaining version out of Stephen A.
He brings the best, most entertaining version out of Shannon.
And if there's someone else that they're going to put in there, he's going to, he's Belichick, dude.
He's going to bring the best, most entertaining version out of the person across from him.
And it's because he's so fucking ridiculous.
You ever have someone who's kind of like ball busty and mean to you, and then it gives you that like that freedom to be an asshole to them too?
And there's something liberating about that.
Like there's sometimes people are like really kind or nice or polite to you.
And you're like, I can't fucking kill this guy.
It forces you to kind of like be polite.
Be kind and polite.
But the fact that somebody's coming in and just being a jerk, you could be like, oh, I'm going to give all my opinions.
What we've built with each other, 100%, right?
But we bring out the best of each other.
No, but you bug it right now.
You see, you sound like Pippin talking about Jordan right now.
So like, stop it.
Stephen A is that dude.
No, no, no, no.
Stephen A's the greatest.
I said it right to his fucking face right here.
I believe he's the greatest.
Skip is the best.
Put it this way.
Stephen A, Skip is Steve Nash.
Everybody around Skip is going to get a way bigger fucking contract.
If you sit next to Skip, you get paid.
If you sit next to Stephen A, you might get paid less.
If you sit next to Stephen A, you might get paid.
Man, Max making less money.
Stephen A could be Jordan.
Skip could be Nash.
Stephen A is Jordan.
Okay.
Cool.
I can agree with him.
He's doing it.
But Skip, if you sit there with him, you have a career.
That's a kingmaker, a career man.
I don't disagree.
And again, I don't like Skip, so I'm going to be hesitant to give up credit, but I could see that.
And again, I'm not trying to give him credit as like what he says is true.
Yeah.
What I'm saying is he's going to create an environment where you're going to speak to him in a way that is entertaining.
And if you have skill, he's going to bring it out of you.
And he's specifically looking for people.
I think he's specifically selecting people that he feels he can have the most entertaining dynamic with.
And so far it works.
I give it up.
Because like the clip that's going around that everybody's saying, oh, this is maybe the reason why he left was when they were talking about Brady.
And then Skip brings up Sharp, like, yo, dude, it's tired at like 30 something.
Look at how he's playing at 45.
And then he's like, yo, why did I take a personal shot?
He's like, yeah, he dug it a little bit and he knew he was going to.
And that moment was like this beautiful, like vulnerable, authentic feeling, right?
I'm just saying, Skip needs, Skip needs his flowers a bit too, for what he can create.
Playoffs Jokic Hot Takes00:11:22
Yeah.
Not for the journalism.
You can't be untalented and be that big.
You can't be an idiot and get that big.
Yeah.
Twice, to your point.
Got the bag multiple times.
He'll do it again.
And it's hard to get your flowers if you're the heel.
100.
That's right.
He's the heel.
Yeah, you have to look at him.
If it's wrestling, he's the heel.
And there can be heels that are unbelievably popular, but without them, you don't get the rock.
Yeah, the rock needs someone to go against.
Yeah.
So the cool thing about Stephen A is he's a lovable anti-anti-hero.
He's like Chaol Sunnin.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's the chail.
It's like he's he's almost trying to be the heel, but he's so good and so lovable that you actually like him.
Yeah.
And you need somebody, you need the opposition to be very specific for that.
Yeah, you need somebody who's like even more of an asshole.
Yeah, I'm trying to think of like a comparison between because I know there's been players and coaches like this with Skip where you go there and initially there's success and then eventually this guy's personality will wear out with everybody and it's going to go up in flames.
Yep.
So this isn't the right example, but you could maybe say something about, oh, Carol Owens back in the day, Tio goes to your squad, you're going to win games.
Yep.
In the immediate future, you are going to win games.
He's going to put up numbers.
At a certain point, that personality is going to destroy the locker room.
Yeah.
That's just what he did everywhere.
He did in San Francisco.
He did it in Philly.
He did it in Dallas.
Great call.
He's going to divide everyone and it's going to be fucking up in flames.
Your quarterback is going to have his best year.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Titan going to have his best year.
You know what I mean?
And then eventually he's going to start calling Jeff Garcia gay.
He's calling Donovan McNabb fat.
Yes.
Yes.
It's just what it's going to be.
And that's going to wear on you.
But yes, that's great.
Great example.
Speaking of little hot takes, did you guys see the game game two?
I did.
I did.
Yes, yes, yes.
Okay.
Yes.
A little bit.
No.
We know he did.
It was a good idea.
At least he went so he could say no up front.
Yeah.
So he caught you during the Idol too.
You like went to him.
He's like, oh, yeah, yeah, he's like, I did hear about it.
I actually did hear about what Chat GPT thought about the idols.
Okay, so game two proves Eric Spolstra is the most criminally underrated coach in the history of the NBA.
Unbelievable what he did.
He has never won a coach of the year award, I believe.
Oh, wow.
And I think I understood that a little bit more when he had the super team and was winning the championships.
I think it was very easy for people to just go, you know what?
This is, you have the greatest stars in the league right now are on the same team.
It's not Spolstra, it's the players.
But his ability to maintain his team's position, I mean, he's constantly playoff threat.
And now to go from eighth seed to taking a game off of Denver and specifically confusing the shit out of the Joker.
Out of one of the smartest players ever.
I mean, if you really look at what happened, they were switching in and out of that zone defense.
What was happening in the fourth quarter?
Jokic was turning the ball over, throwing his shit out of bounds.
Like he was rattled.
Yeah.
He was really now.
Don't get me wrong.
He had fucking 40 points.
He had a great game.
He had a great game.
But he was rattled in the fourth when it's game.
The fourth quarter, the whole Nugget squad was rattled early in the fourth.
Now they came back, but early in the fourth, you're watching that first half of the first fourth quarter.
And I was just like, yo, they look so flustered right now.
They look completely discombobulated.
That's coaching.
And that is fucking coaching.
Also, assembling that team, masterful.
A couple things they did.
One, if you notice, at any point in time on the floor, they have four ball handlers.
Turnovers kill you in the motherfucking playoffs, especially against a team like the Nuggets that can execute, right?
It might be five if Bam is your center.
Yeah.
Because Bam can kind of handle the ball and he can pass.
The only time where they don't have a guy who can dribble and pass is when the white boy's up there.
What is Zeller or whatever his name is?
Cody Zeller's up there.
Besides that, Duncan Robinson is your worst ball handler.
Yeah, and he's got a guard.
You know what I mean?
Like, think about the Knicks.
Now, we have some guys that can handle the ball, whatever, but in the playoffs, there's certain guys that get it and you're like, get it, get the ball to Brunson.
Just get it out of your hands.
Jalen Brown.
That's all we were saying.
I love Jalen Brown.
Turnover, turnover machine.
Can't handle the ball.
Force him left, force him left, force him left.
That's all they do.
So, and then everybody or no, at least three guys at any point in time on the floor are knocked down three-point shooters.
Yeah.
Lights out, knock down three-point shooters.
And they, no, on the heat.
Hot and cold, though, because if they're not hitting, they lose.
That's it.
That is a three-point.
This playoffs outside of that game one, they have been hot the whole playoffs.
And I think that they're just good.
At a certain point, you can't keep saying it's just Caleb Martin, Gabe Vincent, Struce was shooting his ass off.
Obviously, Duncan Robinson, one of the best three-point shooters in the league.
And then, what's his face?
Jimmy's going to get to his spots.
Yeah.
You know, and shoot at a high clip.
And it's like, they're finding ways to score and put pressure on.
And then when you can shoot from behind the arc, it opens up the actual floor a little bit more because you have to defend further out.
You have to run around every single screen.
Now you're going back door and then Duncan Robinson is getting fucking layups and dunks on guys.
That should never happen.
You should never have Duncan Robinson beating you to the basket.
Yeah.
But it does when he's that much of a three-point threat.
Yeah.
They are just, it's so impressive to watch.
So impressive.
I think if they win, it's the greatest championship run in the history of American sports.
I don't know, football, like European football.
But I can't think of anything.
Somebody brought up the Giants in 07.
They were like a fifth or sixth seed.
But in the NFL, you can get hot and win four games.
And they had a ton of talent on that team and they kind of underachieved throughout the season.
The Heat have won seven game series against the number one seed in the East, the Bucks, who might have been the number one seed overall.
Everybody thought they were going to win it.
The number two seed in the Celtics.
The number four seed in the Knicks.
Didn't get to play the number three seed.
They would have washed Philly, no question.
And now the number one seed in the West, Denver.
And they're 1-1 with them.
And convincingly beat them.
And they were down in the play-in game.
If they were down by three with like three minutes left or whatever, if those three minutes don't go their way, they're out.
They don't make the playoffs at all.
What were they seated going in the playoffs?
Eighth.
And they had to win a play-in game for the eighth seed.
So they even played more games.
Have they played more games than the Nuggets?
Yeah, because the Nuggets swept LA.
They beat Santa or Phoenix in six, and then they beat Denver in 15.
Think about that.
Think about that.
Think about this for a second.
Interesting statistic.
The Miami Heat beat the Nuggets in high altitude.
Yeah.
That is something the Lakers with AD and Bron.
LeBron.
Who else?
Phoenix didn't do it.
No, no, no.
Who else is on the Lakers?
I mean, the Lakers had a little squad.
Austin Reese, D'Angelo Russell, Danny Schroeder.
The Stars are AD and Brown.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, that is something that a Laker team could not do.
And the Suns.
Suns couldn't win a game.
Yeah, that was crazy.
In high altitude.
Booker and Durant.
Now, I don't know how much of an advantage playing in Miami is because Miami basketball fans are not the best or most devout.
It's just not like a cultural thing down there.
But like, still, the fact that you take one away at home.
Yeah.
And then you took game two.
Everybody thought they would take game one because Denver would be a little bit rusty.
And then all of a sudden Denver's just going to lock it in.
And Denver will make adjustments.
Like Mike Malone is good.
He's a good coach, really good coach.
But to see a team make an adjustment and visibly frustrate another team from game one and game two.
I mean, like really confuse them.
There were moments in that fourth quarter where Denver's like, what the fuck is going on?
There were some late fourth heroics that kept it close.
Jamal Murray just shooting out of his fucking mind.
But outside of that, I mean.
So here's the thing I noticed with Murray.
He is streaky, Timmy.
I feel like he's less streaky as he gets older and more experienced and better or whatever.
But he's kind of like AD on the Lakers.
If AD goes, the Lakers pretty much win.
If Murray goes, they pretty much win.
Braun is always going to get his.
Jokic is always going to get his.
Jokic is the best player in the league right now.
And I don't think it's close.
But Jamal Murray, if he goes, that motherfucker gets hot.
It's over.
You're not beating him.
And he only really kind of got hot at the end of the fourth quarter.
And that's when they pulled it to within one.
I have a lot of respect for Jokic, but I can't call him the best player in the league if he's having fourth quarters like that.
Like this is the finals.
Again, you have to get to the point.
I haven't seen the whole playoffs.
He's giving him one quarter.
Game one.
This is Jokic.
This is where I think the brilliance of him is.
He had 27 points in game one.
You know how many shots he took?
12.
Think about taking 12 shots and getting 2.25 points per shot.
Not per make, per shot.
Yeah.
Kobe would get like a point a shot.
And I love Kobe.
But that was like, let's get at least one point a shot or whatever.
They had some, it wasn't 2.25.
And the guy is just incredible.
And that he had a triple double.
No, he's averaging a triple-double.
He's great.
He's great.
I'm just saying, I watched him play, and I was like, wow, that's really impressive to see a big move like this.
He's always on balance.
He's got great fucking touch.
Don't get me wrong.
Great court vision.
He's looking to make the right pass.
And, you know, guys are scoring.
It's hilarious.
But what?
Like, this is the first time that even black people would give it up to this guy.
And the fact that you are giving him like, you're giving him that number one spot right now.
He's the blackest.
We can't say y'all are sellouts, bro.
No, y'all are sellouts.
We've never given it.
Even when you always talk about Luca this, Luca that is like, Luca was balling, but nah, he wasn't that dude.
Joker right now, son.
This motherfucker, he might be.
It's undeniable that the best players in the NBA right now are white.
Stop it.
But that is a fact.
There's nothing that we can do.
The best player is white.
Luca's top five.
Best player.
No, Luca's.
Best player.
Luca's top five.
Jokic is number two.
Tyler Harrow.
Tyler Brow.
Is there even a good black guy in the league anymore?
But Jan is not African-American.
Giannis Greek.
He's great.
He's Greek guys.
He's Greek.
He's European.
He's European.
Best players are Europe.
Best players are Europeans.
That's a fact.
Three-fifths of the top five players in the league are European.
Who are you guys?
It's five.
This is America.
So do we.
We thought that y'all could hold it down.
Let these fucking Europeans come in and bully us, bro.
Come on, black people stepping up.
What the fuck is happening here, bro?
Don't know.
Dude, we're America.
I don't know.
This is sad.
This is really sad.
This is our sport, bro.
Immigrants, bro, taking your jobs.
Yeah, dude.
God can believe it.
Those are the real aliens.
I think Jimmy is going to neutralize Jamal.
I did have that fear.
I still think the Nuggets win, but that is a valid fear that it's in even the last position.
Once Jimmy switched on to Jamal, it was fucking lots of time.
And I mean, Jamal got a good shot off, and it looked good going up, too.
I just, yeah, I thought the D was so good, though.
Yeah, yeah, he did.
He did.
But I agree with you, though.
I think that Jamal is going to be the difference maker.
I think that Jokic gets 40 whenever he wants to get 40.
And I think he does it efficiently.
And he's very impressive, don't get me wrong.
But if Jamal doesn't also get it up there, it's going to be tricky.
Mermaid World Disney Feet00:07:04
Yeah.
And I think they will figure it out.
I also like, I don't know a ton of like X's and O's, whatever, but like I just felt like I saw a lot of blown defensive assignments on the Nuggets.
And they're not a good defensive team, but if they can play decently, I think they win that game.
Decent defense.
Like the amount of just lazy D I thought on like screens and whatever, wide open shooters, everybody's not communicating, being sloppy.
I was like, oh, I think if they fix their defense, they can win.
And realistically, a lot of series go to 1-1 with two good teams.
And even though the Heat are an AT, they're a fucking good team.
So I think, I still think Nuggets in six, maybe seven.
But, dude, the Heat are, like you said, man, they had the nuggets flustered.
They're just so well coached.
So good.
I still think Nuggets and Five.
I think they take one back.
I mean, they have to win out now.
They have to take both in Mini.
Right?
Yeah.
Well, it's two in Miami, but if they're going to win in five, they have to win the next three.
Yeah.
Because it's a one-one.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
You're right.
Okay.
Spider-Man came out.
Everybody is saying that this is the greatest Spider-Man movie ever.
No, they're not.
A lot of people are saying this.
It is the highest-grossing Spider-Man movie in history.
I think including cartoon and not cartoon.
Okay.
So far, like opening weekend or whatever it was.
But just look to make sure.
People are saying it was absolutely amazing.
Al fell asleep.
I did.
Now, why is that?
Not because it wasn't good.
I was just tired, bro.
Okay.
So, oh man, but the parts that you saw, you didn't like.
No, I think I was tired going into it.
So it's like I wasn't even all the way listening.
You weren't locked in.
Yeah, I wasn't.
I got to watch it again to give it a reason.
Is it possible you don't relate to it?
A young black man, you know, having a relationship with a Caucasian woman from another part of the world.
Is it possible that there's nothing there that you can kind of connect to?
Is that why it was boring to you?
It's like, Brad, I lived this.
Yeah, I think you relate too much.
Yeah.
So they might have to give you some money, bro.
Yeah, you might be entitled to that.
If Miles starts painting his nails, that's a weird thing.
If Miles Morales comes in with painted nails, that's Alex.
Yo, Miles Morales, a Hispanic black man.
Oh, fuck.
Wow.
From New York.
Yes.
A Hispanic black man from New York.
Has a relationship with a white woman.
I inspired the highest-selling Spider-Man.
That's kind of fun.
It's the best opening ever for an animated Sony film.
Oh, animated Sony film.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
Because I think the Tom Holland, his last one, that was the biggest one.
That was the biggest one.
And that one was phenomenal.
That was phenomenal.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's great.
Yeah.
This one was from the people I spoke to, it's a good, crazy cliffhanger.
And I think the next one is going to be crazy.
Do you know what the cliffhanger is?
Why are we even talking to this guy, bro?
I thought he was going to have a taste.
Oh, did you guys see it?
No, you bring that up because you saw it.
I kind of.
You know, I kind of saw it.
I love what you bring.
I saw Black Little Mermaid.
What did you think about it?
It's also very funny that Mark put Lil Mermaid in the notes.
Yo, I thought the movie, my wife loves all of it.
So we went and saw all Disney movies I have to see.
It was too long, but that girl, Hallie Bailey, is fucking incredible.
Really talented.
Son, the first song she sings, I was like, this is beautiful.
I look at my girl.
She's crying at the first song.
No.
I look at the girl next to me, also with a miserable boyfriend.
This girl crying.
I look at the girl next to my girl.
They're crying.
One song in.
Which song?
What's it called?
A part of, what is it?
A part of that world.
Come on, come on.
A part of your world.
A part of your world.
You want to be where the people are.
Walking around with those voices.
What do you call them?
Feet.
Bro, who likes feet more?
Me or Lil Mermaid, bro?
Oh, that's a tough one.
That is a trap for the yicky one, dude.
Who wanted Lil Mermaid to get feet more?
Me or the Lil Mermaid?
How are the feet?
Do they do a little bit?
They do a little thing.
And is the reveal good?
Not bad.
Not bad.
Just not bad.
Not bad.
Are they Hallie Bailey's actual feet?
I think so.
Is she old enough for me to discuss this?
Yeah.
Okay.
I've looked at this.
Does it paint the toenails?
Yes.
Yes.
Well, they come with toenail polish.
Yeah, Disney's not going to have Disney, bro.
Disney knows what the people want.
You get feet and a pedicure.
They're fucking flat.
What color color?
Yeah, what?
Pearl color, I believe.
Bro, can I tell you my joke?
Can I tell you my joke that I made?
I'm Brilliant Idiots.
Yeah.
You know how Lil Mermaid's mom died?
How?
Well, did you?
She did die.
She did die.
But do you know what she died from?
No.
Sickle shell and email.
Scottie Bangorina.
Scottie Bangorina.
Okay, so you love it.
And I thought these people who are outraged at a black little mermaid, pick a different one.
I get that you're upset that they're trying to make everything overly diverse, but like my wife said, this girl looks like a Disney princess.
She's a beautiful girl, big eyes, like pretty smile, all that.
She's always been diverse.
I hate this argument.
That's also true.
It's like they've always had fucking Asian or black or whatever Disney movies.
I think the weird thing is when you're there's this trend of taking existing characters of one race or color and switching them out for others.
I think that's when people get weirded out.
But nobody was like, Mulan, what the fuck is this?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But if they did remake Mulan with a white lead, fire.
Fire, dude.
Fire.
That'd be awesome.
They should do that.
What do you mean?
Why can't it be white?
What's weird about it?
What's wrong with it being white?
You see how you walked right into that, right?
Let him walk right into it.
Let him walk right.
Like, if that depp girl was it?
That's what I'm saying, bro.
That's high as so.
You tied it in with an old thing and I is the depp girl.
Depp, yeah.
And I started to get goosebumps behind my ears.
Got a little clothes.
That was weird, bro.
Have I?
Stop it, dude.
Stop it.
I wonder if she does well enough where she?
Are we talking about Depp or are we talking about where, like we just jumped off little Mermaid because let's go to, let's not talk about Depp and them fucking lighter nipples.
So dude, her nipples.
Her nipples look like big lighters.
Look at them thing, but like children of huge stars.
Damn, god damn, they hurt to do something crazy to like get out of that shadow.
I mean, Johnny Depp made some nice little, but no, Apple put out the Apple put out the new goggles.
Apple Goggles Future Tech00:05:56
You guys saw it.
Yeah, the uh.
I watched um market.
I watched TECH Windows.
Uh yeah, I know I watched Brownlee's uh uh, review of them, which was fantastic.
You guys should go check it out um, and he's gonna break it down way better than us and anything that we say here is all gonna be stolen from him.
But uh, it is uh, it's really interesting.
It's really interesting.
What's your take um?
One thing I thought was really cool, the goggles.
It looks as if they're trans, loosen loosent, meaning you see the eyes.
So if i'm wearing them, there's a mode where you can see my eyes.
It's actually not my eyes, it is a projection of the inside of the goggles on the outside and you can turn that on or off.
Now, when it's quote unquote off, right so, or on so you can see my eyes, it lets you know that I can see you and look at you because i'm looking at everything around me, right?
So it's really Jarvis.
Like remember with Iron Man, like you can have multiple screens going on, you can look at your computer right there and then it will mirror what's on your computer because it's obviously synced up to all the Apple stuff, and then just pop it up into wherever you want in this world and then you move it around with your fingers.
All you have to do to to uh, I guess click on something is just do this with your fingers And it's locked with your eyes.
It's that intuitive that like it'll actually move.
Like when Marquez was doing it, it was actually moving it around.
They don't show him using it.
He's just describing his use of it.
And I'm sure there's certain limitations.
Yeah.
But it's not coming out for another year.
I've had like some of the goggles that are out now have the augmented reality where you can do that same thing.
But you're doing it with a controller, I believe.
Either a controller or you wear some gloves or something.
Or the gloves.
So this is dope.
Yeah, he's like, one of the things he said is Apple is charging $3,500 for it, which is much more expensive than all the other goggles on the market.
He goes, but like Apple often does, there is nothing to compare this to.
They're setting a price point because you cannot literally compare this technology to anything else out there.
The fact that it's registering your eyes.
So if you're looking at a certain app, it will knows how.
Like if you're focused in on, let's say, your music app, it will go to the music app that's on the screen in front of you.
It's like you're looking at a computer, essentially, and it will highlight it in a way.
And then if you want to click it, you just go like this.
It just knows where your fingers are, knows where your hands are.
It's registering the reality around you and this fake reality that's creating in front of you and allowing you to interface with the fake reality.
I mean, it's just unbelievable.
Is this not a little scary to everybody?
Break down the.
Like, I think how much we're addicted to our phones, how much that takes us out of reality.
I can't sleep for shit.
A big reason is the phone.
I know how addicted I am to it.
You're just immersing yourself even more with this.
Like, there's no reason to not live with this all the time.
I can just go wherever I need to go, do whatever I've got.
It's a two-hour battery life.
It's only going to get better.
No, you're 100%.
It's only going to get longer.
It's only going to progress quicker, quicker and quicker.
I do think that it creates, I understand why you're scared because it enables you to live your life completely within a screen.
Yeah.
And sorry, one more point.
Nobody, there's been no study that says human beings are happier with smartphones.
Yeah, but they don't care about our happiness.
Yeah, they don't care about our happiness, but that's another reason that I'm a little fearful.
It's like this is only going to be whatever.
We don't care about our happiness either.
But so this, what this allows you to do, it's quite interesting.
It's like, okay, we've got nine hours of phone time or seven hours of phone time that you're doing a day.
And then I have the Apple Watch.
So it's like, I'm always kind of part of you.
This does enable it so that you can live within a screen your entire day.
So you can put that in eventually.
You could put these things on.
And I'm sure there'll be like really small versions of them.
And you can put them on and you could go about your day.
You can order coffee.
You can FaceTime.
This is awesome.
You can FaceTime.
And what the person sees on FaceTime is a AI generated version of your face that you first do with your iPhone.
So when you first are setting up the goggles, it creates this version of your face and that's what's projected.
So you and I are FaceTiming.
I got the goggles on.
You don't see my goggles.
You see my face talking to you, but it's AI generated.
So it looks like you're out here just talking to me.
No, no, no.
You on your regular phone.
Okay.
You're not on your goggles.
You just see me talking to you, but it's not me because I have the fucking goggles on.
Now, it probably will feel a little bit weird.
It's like, okay, I'm talking to a computer, but eventually it'll look exactly like you.
Does it mimic your, like, if you're laughing, does the AI version laugh?
I imagine it will get there eventually.
Yeah.
It's not there now.
Yeah.
That's what that girl Sinead said.
She was like, technology, the trend is that it gets smaller and closer to your body.
Yeah.
And that like, as these progress, they will get smart.
Oh, yeah.
You had a future, futurist.
Futurist, yeah.
Yeah, futurist on Dagnon.
Yeah.
But she was talking about this, and she called us out like four months ago.
Really?
On your pod?
Yeah, yeah.
She was like, this is going to happen, and it's going to progressively get better, and it's going to replace a smartphone.
So we're not going to be using our iPhones on a day-to-day basis.
And this will be eventually what people are using, whether it's the goggles or whether it's just glasses or contacts or a neural lens.
Google tried it with the Google Glass and it just didn't.
Well, Google can never do hardware because they just don't have culture.
And they just, and it probably was a little bit before its time.
It didn't have like the technology.
I don't think people will walk around with a headset that's that big.
What I can see them potentially doing, and apparently it's a little bit heavy and kind of cumbersome right now.
But what I can see somebody doing is working with it.
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So instead of taking your laptop to work, you take that to work.
You know who's not looking over your shoulder to see if you're actually doing stuff?
Your boss when you have it all on your goggles.
It's going to get more comfortable.
You can monitor things.
You can text.
You can do everything you need in complete privacy right here.
And you could see what's going on in your world around you.
So it's not like you can't see what's happening in the office.
You're not worried about somebody like bumping into you or throwing something at you.
I can see you, Alex, while I'm typing on my computer right here.
Yeah.
And multiple people work.
Sorry, real quick.
Multiple people to that point.
Multiple people work with two screens, two monitors.
And you can have four.
That's the thing.
I didn't think people would use this at the office.
This will be the new way to work from home because now you can get rid of that big desk and get rid of the office spaces.
Now that you need the four different computers.
Okay.
Imagine you're one of these Wall Street guys that has three different TVs going on at the same time and a ticker on every single one of them and all your reports.
You're tapping in between all of them.
Now you can comfortably be on your couch, just have all your screens right here.
So you predicted that this will change like the way people decorate their homes.
Like interior decor completely changes because you no longer will need physical workspaces.
You'll no longer need physical TVs.
And then on top of that, you're going to be able to walk around and you won't have physical advertisements.
You'll have curated ads the way you have on your phone that will pop up in the world virtually as you're walking through.
Oh, wow.
And then you can take them off and then there's no more billboards that are clogging up all over the streets.
Isn't this kind of the idea of what NFTs was?
Like we're eventually going to live in this world and the art will be in this world on these glasses.
Oh, wait, You might still have billboards.
Cheaper.
But those billboards can be curated to your specific desires and interests.
So there's just a QR code on it, or not a QR code, but whatever the equivalent is.
It's a green screen.
It is whatever it is.
If a city would actually probably look uglier like this, or maybe they find a way where it can look beautiful, right?
It's like the billboard itself can just be a piece of art when you don't have the goggles on.
It also doesn't matter because we're all here anyway.
They do that.
They do that for soccer games where the little banner that goes around the field changes where you live.
They'll change that.
Smart.
Smart.
But there'll still be billboards because not everyone will be able to afford this.
Most people actually won't be.
So there'll probably just be more billboards.
It's only going to get cheaper.
It's only going to get more accessible.
Eventually people are going to have it.
But what I thought was really interesting about this is the, oh, I forgot.
Fuck.
I think the cool thing in the future when they have the Neuralink and then you have these things.
So then you don't even have to do the whole clicking with your hand.
It's like you're just thinking everything you want to do.
Spotify, play the song and you're just thinking in your head.
Yeah.
That's going to be the next shift.
Yeah.
But everyone predicted it was going to be VR, whereas like that NFT space where things were like all virtual.
You're putting on the Oculus and now you're just like completely immersed in this quote-unquote virtual reality.
And it seems like AR, as of right now, is like the better bet where it's an augmented.
It's so much better.
And don't get me wrong, VR creates way funnier videos for the internet.
Like people fighting a wall and running into shit freaking out.
Climbing on like a little rail over New York.
But AR creates the comfort to actually work.
I would feel uncomfortable if I was doing work in an office and I didn't know who was next to me, close to me, around me, anything.
Yeah, that's weird.
Like you'd think that you'd bang your coffee.
There's so many things that could go.
That was my issue with the Oculus.
Just like trying to watch a movie on it or like play a game with it is like, I would constantly be like, is there someone right here?
Yeah, that's the thing.
It has that setting already built it.
Like it has done.
What I'm saying is you could with this, what we're saying is you can opt into it, but it exists also in augmented reality where you can see is augmented.
You can see everything around you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, which I think is important for most of the use.
Like if you're checking email, you're looking at all these other things.
You want to be able to see the environment around you.
If you're watching a movie and you want to totally lock in, sit down, you know, you're not moving, lock in.
And if at any point in time you want to see what's going on around you, you just turn it on.
So there's a space for both, but this allows you to live your day-to-day.
Yeah.
And then when you really want to go into the VR world, you do that and that alone.
This is more functional for day-to-day.
Yeah.
100%.
And I think that's what Apple realized.
Yeah.
I think that's what Apple realized about it.
Also, I thought it was really smart.
That's what I was going to say.
The fact that they're announcing it a year ahead of time.
So it's not coming out for a year.
And they did that so that the companies start making apps for this because it's a different operating system.
It's the Vision operating system or the Vision Pro operating system.
You basically have a computer on your head.
That's what it is.
And so they're going to make their apps for it.
So by the time it comes out, you're not limited.
Like when Oculus came out, you could play one game where you grab the fucking gun and you shoot the shit in the environment.
Like there wasn't just a lot to do with it.
And for me, I bought them.
And then since I really couldn't do that much with it or I felt I couldn't do that much with it, I just kind of lost interest.
This, it's got to be seamless.
The second I put it on, I got my email, I got my Apple ID, everything's ready to go.
I'm watching movies.
I'm on a flight with it.
Yeah.
Think about us when we're flying almost every weekend.
Yeah, on a flight, this is amazing.
And I like the fact, and Brownlee pointed this out, but I like the fact that the battery pack is external because it takes away the weight off your head.
Adding all the weight to the already heavy thing, fucked up.
You have it external and it's just something that you plug in and then it can be in your pocket or it can be your backpack or whatever the hell it is.
So then it almost feels like a headphone wire.
Yeah.
And then you can get two battery packs if you're going and you need more than two hours.
You know you're not going to be bothering.
Plugged directly into the wall.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
So, and Apple historically has done a good job of like making cool technology completely consumable by everyone, where it's like, okay, the computer is like this niche thing that people are using in specific spaces.
Let's democratize it where everyone can use it.
Like the Palm Pilot and like work phones is like a very niche thing for like business people.
Blackberry.
Let's democratize it and everyone can get a phone.
And hopefully this does the same thing where it's like, okay, the Oculus is cool.
It's within this gaming community and people are using it for specific stuff.
Let's democratize it.
Everyone can use it for everyday life.
So it'll be interesting if they can do it again.
And if they can, I feel like this is be like the third or fourth time that they've successfully done it.
So what would we, what can we think, what would we use it for?
Miles, I know that you're into the tech stuff.
Like what are you looking forward to using the Vision Pro for?
I don't know.
That's the hardest one for me.
It's cool they're giving developers a year to use it because I remember when the Apple Watch first came out, they did the same thing.
They gave it like six months until it actually came out and then they gave it to a bunch of people to actually make apps for.
And in the beginning, I was like, I'm not going to want an Apple Watch when it first was announced.
I was like, it doesn't itch anything for me.
So I'm excited to see what use cases developers come out for with it.
Same thing with Apple Watch.
In the beginning, I was like, I don't know if Apple Watch is that impressive.
And now I'm like, yeah, Apple Watches are wildly impressive.
Text call, the Ultra, all of that's gone really crazy and done cool stuff.
So with the headset, I'm eager to use it.
I'm so eager to try it out, but I don't know the exact use cases yet.
And I'm excited to see other people find those use cases.
You'll see someone use it and go, oh, I could do that.
That's kind of what happened with me with the Apple Watch is I saw you guys using your, I think, competing with workouts or something like that.
And I was like, oh, okay, it could track certain things.
Yeah.
Alex, you probably use Oculus the most out of all of us.
Well, I did, but just like you, I lost interest.
Like this, I still don't really see a time I can use it, but I can see streamers loving this because if it can mimic your face, now it's like I can be a Twitch streamer, a YouTube streamer, and it's looking like you're looking straight at me.
And at the same time, those streamers are looking at multiple screens while they're pulling up stuff and all that thing.
So it's like, if you can integrate that, I can stream, you're seeing my face.
I'm looking at this screen.
I'm pulling this video in.
And it'll be a much easier setup than having a camera lights.
And you have your mouse that you're doing all this clicking.
It's better if you're just running around.
Yeah.
Interesting.
So I can see some.
I'm really excited for the content side of things.
Like content creation and content capture.
So it takes three-dimensional photos and videos using all the cameras on the outside.
Oh, that's right.
That's going to be like, imagine we're taking 3D videos.
Our kids, our parents took photos of us on like film, and then we're taking kids pictures of our kids or future kids on like iPhones.
And then like soon, it's going to be insane to think that like you're sending a video to someone and you put it on and you're like in the room watching a kid first.
It's a fucking Avengers Endgame with Tony Stark and his dad, that memory that he just lives.
Yes.
You're just in that shit.
And you have to put on the memory.
And you get to take it too.
You can just hit the button and then it does the thing.
I'm excited to see content creation.
This is some old man shit to say, but it is very cool to see.
And I wonder if like past generations have felt the same way, but it's very cool to see technology catch up with the movies that we watched that were exhibiting technology that was far beyond our years.
So what we saw Tony Stark doing with Jarvis, we will very soon be able to do with the Vision Pro versions of it.
But we have ChatGPT, which is something that we can ask questions, get answers to, interface to like Jarvis.
I mean, once they integrate, you know, their version of ChatGPT with this, think about what's going to think about that.
Apple's AI.
Yeah.
Let's call it fucking banana.
Hey, banana, can you bring up my schedule for today?
Schedule pops up on your Oculus.
You're brushing your teeth.
Move that thing to this thing.
What over here?
What's the best way for me to get sushi before eight o'clock?
These things that suggested.
Could you call the blog?
Maybe you can.
Maybe it can't.
Could you go on Resi?
There's auto schedulers and stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, it's going to be upgraded.
It's going to be Jarvis.
But what I'm saying is, since it's completely seamlessly integrated within your Apple world, everything can be done through Siri or whatever their AI function is.
Whereas the other auto schedules, you have to go to that schedule and then it will apply it to the different schedules, right?
Like, oh, dude, we're eventually we're just going to be apples, right?
Like, is that the future?
Are we just, do we just become the product ourselves?
That's why I think the big loser in this is meta.
Because meta thoughts.
And meta's big bet was we're all going to be on the metaverse.
We're all going to be meta.
Facebook.
We're all going to be in that thing.
We own, it's called the metaverse.
Let's just call ourselves meta.
So the meta world, what is called the metaverse?
It's indistinguishable.
Everybody's going to live.
Everybody's going to be ours.
Then Apple just body these motherfuckers with the hardware.
And then they got the Apple App Store.
Is Apple gonna create their content, movies, TV shows, specifically for the Vision Pro?
Probably is.
Is there a way that they can shoot it?
Like, do you shoot it?
I don't know if this gives you any advantage, but like shooting it wider than it really would be so that when you watch it with the Vision Pro, you can actually kind of turn your thoughts.
You're talking about Instagram?
No, I'm talking about like the Ted Lasso and all the shows.
Yeah, so just utilizing 360 cameras more.
But then you'd have to light 360, which would be really difficult.
Yeah, but there's like on the Aquilas, for example, there are YouTube channels that put stuff up that 360.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You could potentially eventually use AI to fill in the gaps that aren't present.
Yeah, what would the rest of the stadium look like?
What would the rest of this?
And they, I bet you they could just fill in a generic plate to be like, okay, I'm in a soccer stadium and I'm only seeing this square, but the rest of it would be this.
Dude, you know what else they could do?
They could shoot.
They could shoot wider.
I mean, things might start to get a little fuzzy on the edges or, but they could shoot everything just wider, film everything wider, crop in for what the regular folks that don't have the Vision Pro would be watching.
And then if you do have the Vision Pro, you can, with it, access the angles yourself just by looking on the.
Imagine our podcast.
Yeah.
You either, A, are allowed to jump into each camera or there's one in the middle and they're just like able to zoom in and go, this is a shot I want.
I want to focus on Andrew.
Oh, that's the NBA games thing.
My suspicion though is having a space on the couch for everybody.
I don't think people will actually want to do that personally.
I don't think people will want to be too immersive too frequently.
I think, sorry, I think if they can find a way to do it with you, the person you want to watch it with, like if we all wanted to watch a movie and we found a way we're all sitting in that bitch, or we want to watch an NBA game, we find a way we're all sitting courtside talking to each other, having the experience.
We're all watching Game of Thrones, battling the bastards in the battle.
Because right now, it's just going to be your headset and then you're going to talk to your wife about it.
Yeah.
If we had it together, it might be, we could just chat and have the whole thing.
My suspicion is that most people won't do that.
My feeling is that they'll be like, okay, there'll be a screen where I'm watching things.
And then there's also going to be Instagram and TikTok.
Yeah.
There's also going to be my email.
And that's how I'm currently watching TV, which is like the screen here, but mostly Instagram and then looking up and then checking my email and kind of flicking through stuff.
And I think that's going to be more what the layout will be.
And it won't be necessarily as immersive.
And maybe that will be an option, but I think it'll be more like multi-plane with different softwares.
Yeah, I do, I do subscribe to that because that's kind of how we watch things right now.
Like right now, somebody has this on, they're looking at their phone for something, and there's their laptop where they're working.
And if they have these, all those things could be operating harmoniously and they could be tuning in to us, going back to their email, whatever, without even clicking out of windows, just simply just kind of looking to the right.
Yeah.
Slightly.
And that would be like the entertainment experience.
And then I think the work experience is like, oh, I'm doing dishes around the house or I'm cleaning or I'm going to pick the kids up from school or whatever.
And while I'm driving, I'm able to kind of like see a profile of a thing or my email thread or my text thread.
And it's like seamlessly integrated.
Once they have, I don't know if they can do this legally, but once the Apple car comes out, then it's just a different version of that where you're, what is it called?
It's going to be autopilot anyway.
What is that?
Yeah.
Where your windshield.
Okay.
So if you're on autopilot, you don't have to worry about the driving.
Now your windshield becomes an interactive screen.
Right.
And it's just your computer screen.
So you're looking out if you want.
It's like that augmented reality thing, but it could also have your movie that's up here, your text coming in, Instagram, all the other stuff.
When do they make kid sizes for this shit?
And they just, you just see a bunch of kids sitting at the restaurant in their goggles.
Like, that's, I think that's when it will fuck us up.
Oh, I think right now that, like, you don't believe that you can, yeah, like, nothing can, you, I mean, you were acknowledging earlier, like, I'm on my phone way too much.
Yeah.
But I feel like when we start to interact with a piece of technology, we're like, oh, this isn't going to take over my life.
This isn't going to do anything to me.
I'm an adult.
I, you know, can make my own autonomous decisions.
It's once you see a kid scrolling an iPad nonstop that you go, ooh, that's an issue.
Yeah.
They look addicted to that.
Yeah.
A bunch of cocomelon.
It's the only way the parents can calm that kid down.
And it's like, you see all these iPad holders, like the rubber little alien or something.
They just hand them out.
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Yeah, that's the plain.
I will say this: restaurants have gotten so much quieter.
Yes.
Yeah.
It is, I mean, they should, you know, how they're like, you need a suit jacket to eat here.
They should hand kids out there.
You need a rubber iPad.
Yeah.
You need your iPad or the kid cannot enter the restaurant.
Also, I think the idea of autonomy is like kind of an illusion with technology and adults.
I think they've hacked our brains so much that we think we're in control of when we look at the phone.
We have no fucking clue how often we're on the phone.
Because we're like, oh, we're autonomous.
We're making this decision.
How many times have you opened up the phone and not know what the fuck you're looking for?
And you're just like, why am I on this?
All the time.
They just hack the fuck out of our brain.
That's why I'm all so scared of it because they are in there.
They know how we think better than we know how we think.
As dope as this looks, I still don't think it's going to work.
I think it'll be another VR Oculus.
There'll be a community for it that it works for.
But I think the most for most people, especially if you live with someone at home, it's like once you put that thing on your face, it's like that person's like checked out.
And that is, it creates a really weird dynamic when you're at home looking at it.
Great call.
Great call.
I walk around my AirPods and I have full conversations.
That's different.
Like you can literally see your face.
I can wave really quickly, get your attention.
Like now, if I'm watching something with this thing on, I either have to yell loudly at you or tap you to get you to check your phone.
But I'm saying if it's AR, it's like, oh, you can still see.
Yeah, but you're still looking at disconnects when someone has skipped.
They have to go in front of you, get in your line of vision.
You know, it's, it's just not as immediate as like, yo, hey, Mark.
I completely agree with you.
That was the biggest issue with me when I got the Oculus is that I was completely disconnected from my wife.
And it wasn't an issue for me.
It was an issue for my wife.
And I understand that.
That makes perfect sense.
So the way to fix this is to make them glasses.
And the only way for them to be glasses is for them to start like this.
Yeah.
And then it gets five years ago.
Doesn't this look like the first, what was it called?
The, was it the iMac?
What was that?
Like, there was an Apple computer that had like the round one with the transparent.
It was a little bit round.
It had translucent different colors and it had a little handle on it.
So the iMac, it kind of almost looks like the first iMac.
Like it's a little bit like kind of round and big and it feels bulky now.
But once it's the size of your glasses right there and it will fucking get there, you can be in the, it's like your home.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it just takes longer than what people think before it is.
No, I think it'll take longer than 10 years?
Because they've been working on Oculus for 10 years and it hasn't changed that.
Fair enough.
But I think it's less.
Yeah.
Well, who knows?
Who knows?
Whatever it is, it will get there.
But in order for it to get there, this has to work.
If this flops, they're not going to keep improving it and keep putting in the money for RD.
Like, but if it does all right, that buy-in, that's steep.
But maybe they price it at a point where they're like, this is only for the enthusiasts.
Early investors.
Exactly.
Like, we don't need this to be an iPod.
We don't need this to be an iPhone.
We don't need this to be that type of sensational breakout.
It's priced at a point where just the people who are obsessed are going to buy it and we can break even or make enough money where we can continue the investment.
It's worth it and it's worth it.
Because I agree.
The price point is high.
This is not like a traditional consumer good.
But if the technology is groundbreaking, then the technology will persist.
All of the Apple products in the beginning were more expensive than I think you remember.
Like the OG laptops, OG iPod, OG iPhone.
iMac was thousands of dollars.
Yeah, the original thousands, thousands.
The original iPad MacBooks were so for $7,000 in like today's money.
Wow.
iPods were more expensive than you remember.
IPhones were incredibly more expensive than they might have been.
Super they didn't have.
You couldn't send picture messages on the original IPhone, like there's.
I was gonna remember the first IPhone not being very impressive.
It was impressive for the time, but when you look back on it it's like this is damn near primitive.
So, like by the third or fourth iteration of this, you'll be like oh, it's cheaper, ubiquitous and I want it and does more and does a lot more.
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Yeah, it's gonna be really interesting.
And also there's gonna be other companies getting.
You know how Android has started pushing Apple into doing like a bunch of shit that Apple didn't do.
Just that's what competition does.
There's gonna be other companies doing their thing.
Now Oculus will step its game up.
Whatever other new companies are trying to come in, they're gonna go off of that, add little improvements.
It's just gonna keep pushing each other.
Yeah thinner better, whatever.
Maybe, maybe we'll see.
Yeah um okay guys, anything else before we get out of here, this is one random thought based on what you said about watching technology that we saw in movies become reality.
You think the only thing that makes a science fiction type movie stick around is we still haven't gotten the technology yet, like i'm thinking of Back to the Future.
There was another movie I was thinking of, oh, Star Trek.
Star Trek stuck around because we are never, we're still, we still can't teleport back to the future, we don't have flying cars, we don't have time machines and there's probably tons of sci-fi movies that were huge back in the day.
But now we got all that and we're like, so it's sci-fi yeah yeah yeah, it's just, that is reality.
Yeah, and I bet an Iron Man Iron Man in 2023 or 2033, 43 they might look at and be like yeah, this is what we do have a flying suit.
I mean, that's kind of how I feel watching old Batman, like you see, like the old Batman movie from like the 60s, and it's like I got a rope flying in the building.
I'm like that's not really super.
Yeah, it's like there's a guy like Alex Honoura does that like for fun, three times a week.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah yeah, that's interesting.
Yeah, i've been thinking a lot about this recently.
With like every every Marvel movie that comes out.
It feels as if every movie, or the new generation of these superhero movies, is intertwined with different realities the, this idea of the multiverse.
Yeah, every movie has the Multiverse tapped into it.
Why?
Why is there this obsession with the multiverse to bring characters back?
So is it specifically to like reinfuse old ip into the newer stories?
For the most part, but this existed already in the comics.
But they realized, like there comes a time where either the hero dies, and that was the big hit, and so they found ways like, oh, you know this, we can bring the hero back by doing this.
Here's what an idiot I am.
I thought this was like a theory that we were all we all could play with.
Now yeah, I thought this was new revelation.
Oh yeah, that that is possible, that there's infinite universes and i'm indifferent in every one of them.
I think it's kind of both.
I think it broke into like a scientific lexicon, like the idea of a multiverse.
Yeah like, in my opinion, feels like it has like reached like society in the last like five, ten years.
So I think it's it like influence culture, but it's been in the comics for a while.
And the money, and I think the money is greater with a multiverse.
And, on top of that, I think it's easier to write because you're like like, when you're confined to this little parameter of like what this Reality is.
There's only so many stories that can be told within it.
And once you're able to be like, wait, they can transport to a different universe where the laws are completely different.
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What is that term?
Deus ex mixed.
Yeah, it's it is that in a lot of ways.
It's like you're dead, but you and another multiverse is a deadline.
And God comes through and saves you.
Now the story is different.
That's why it's like, I think Marvel going forward, it's going to be really hard for them to have like high stakes because it's like now if any Whitey dies, they don't really die.
I don't like the multiverse.
I mean, I have to watch this movie and I did like the other Spider-Man movie, but for that exact reason, I don't like infinite opportunities, possibilities.
I like being confined to reality.
Bro, I almost had a fucking mental breakdown.
I'm doing a crossword yesterday with my wife.
And no, no, wait till you get it because it is bad, bro.
It gets worse.
Dude, we're doing a crossword.
It's not even the Sunday one.
Sunday is the toughest crossword.
This is like a Thursday crossword.
Midweek crossword.
Midweek crossword.
This is a run-of-the-mill crossword.
I cannot get this fucking word, even though I know what it is.
Probably a hard word.
What was the description?
It's probably a tough one.
I honestly cannot remember, but I got it.
I got it.
I go and it's the app.
So you can actually try each letter.
You can kind of cheat.
I go through every letter of the alphabet.
It's none of them.
I'm like, I found a faulty crossword.
I'm like, vindicated.
I'm like, I knew I was right.
I knew I was right.
Okay.
There's no fucking way.
And I reset the app.
I go back in.
I type the letter that I think it's supposed to be.
It's not it.
I go, did I break the crossword?
I try a number to be sarcastic.
They put numbers in the crossword.
So it was a year.
They're using numbers.
And the way you spell the number, those letters count within the word.
I'm done.
Wait, so how do you spell a number?
T-W-O for two.
Oh, okay.
O-N-E for one.
So now those letters count in the spelling of the actual word.
This is infinite possibility.
This is the multiverse.
There's infinite possibilities now.
It's too many possibilities.
I start getting anxiety.
I don't even want to do this fucking crossword anymore.
All just hear the same thing.
There was never like actual numbers in crossword puzzles.
So you would have to always spell out the number.
He's saying you can put the number.
Put the number in.
Oh, it's the other way around.
In that one box, you would put, let's say, two.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
But the spelling of two counts.
Whoa.
That's kind of hard.
So, for example, let's say the word is one up.
One up.
Okay.
No, because that's like there are ones where it's like, bro, it's too specific.
21 Islands.
The band.
Petite Faux.
Petites Faux.
What is it called?
They're appetizers.
Petit Faux.
Petit Faux.
Okay.
It was French appetizers or something like that.
I go, that's petite fours.
I know that.
It's petite fours, right?
I spell petite.
Petits.
I'm like, I got that part right.
There's too many more fucking boxes.
I'm like, they're not enough boxes for me to spell fours.
What the fuck is this shit?
Okay.
Petites, the letter four, and then an S. That's crazy because that's how you spell that word in French is just F.
And OUR.
There's infinite possibilities.
This is not MAGA.
We need to make sure that we need to make America great again, bro.
Where's Trump?
We need Trump back, bro.
What does Trump have?
Honestly, this is the most disrespectful thing the New York Times ever done.
This is fake news.
This is fake news.
This is the most disrespectful thing.
You can't go into a crossword and now the possibility of numbers is entered.
My brain shuts down.
It's not just, it's just an additional.
It's endless now.
Because if you know the answer, in my, I don't know, I don't do crosswords, but if you know the answer, then you would just.
Well, if you don't do crossword, then you just, I can't be F-O-O-U-R-S, so it must be number four.
There's only one more possibility now.
But every word could also be spelled with the number.
No, not at all.
Only words with numbers.
Do you know how many different words could potentially fit into these things?
Okay, so we are here at the sixth.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You guys don't do crosswords, so you don't know.
You guys are clearing all the crosswords.
The hints for the crossword are very simple.
It's like, be quiet.
What's a shut up?
Or silence.
Or there's a million different synonyms for shut up, and any one of those can fit there.
But you're like, if you only have enough letters for shut up, you would go, okay, well, it has to be shut up.
Now you introduce numbers.
But how would a number?
A five-letter word could be a nine-letter word.
How would a number be in shut up?
That's what that's what we're saying.
It's petite's force.
It's petite force.
That's a number.
Yeah.
But it doesn't have the boxes for it.
Why don't you get it?
I get it.
I get it.
So your frustration is like, hey, that's who's agreeing with you.
Frustration.
Frustration is agreeing with you.
Your frustration.
He said the letter four.
That's why he threw us up.
I got you.
Here it is.
Here it is.
But there were four boxes for four.
There were two boxes.
No, there was one box.
Four.
And then the end was S.
Oh, they gave you the S.
I had to find the S. That's insanity.
Two boxes left.
Petites for S. That's insanity.
Yeah.
So I think that frustration.
Let me make it more frustrating.
If it was just one box, then it makes sense.
Then it makes sense.
But the two boxes, that's that don't worry.
No, no, wait, wait, let me get crazy.
But now you know.
Let me get crazier, ready?
These make up a skeleton.
What is it?
Bones.
Oh, I got this.
Okay, but what if it's spelled?
What if it's only three boxes?
B1S.
No one would think that.
No.
That's wild.
No one would think that.
That's not an option, though.
That is what they do now, Alex.
One is in bones.
Exactly.
One is in bones.
No, that's not none.
They do it.
You're justified.
That's not.
They do it.
They do it.
My bad.
They do it.
My bad.
That's disgusting.
This is the first time.
It's disgusting.
He's justified in his stupidity.
No, I don't think.
No, that is what you want to do then.
That is what's going on.
You understand why force doesn't seem that crazy?
Because it's the number four.
That makes more sense.
B1S is asinine.
But that's what they do.
Shut down the New York Times.
Shut it down.
If that's what they're doing.
Shut it down.
If that's what they're doing.
I don't think they're doing it.
These liberal cops are turning numbers into letters.
I think he made it.
Nothing has an identity anymore.
That's trans letters.
They're trans letters.
Bro.
You justified, bro.
What do you put on a lure to catch?
You catch a fish.
You just don't.
What do you put on a lure to catch a fish?
Feathers.
Worms.
B8.
Bait.
They did that.
No, they don't.
They did that.
Two letters.
They did that.
How do you catch a fish?
No, because it's not even.
Eight is E-I-G-H-T.
And bait is not spelled B-E-G.
He's progressing the form.
All right.
They did one like that, too.
No, they didn't.
Bro, I'm telling you.
Screenshot this, please.
I didn't even put it in the pod.
Let me tell you something.
I think he's lying.
Al, Al, let me tell you something right now.
I swear to God, I've never been this frustrated in my life.
I stopped playing.
I was like, you gotta let me know if leathers is in this motherfucker.
All right, wait.
What was worse?
This number or the guy who put the salad dressing from his keyboard, which one was worth this is worse.
Why is that either I would eat that salad daily before I play another crossword that has numbers in it?
I mean, it just erodes all your confidence.
You're like, there's no way I can guess this.
There's infinite possibilities.
I still don't believe it.
I'll suspend around.
I don't know what to do here.
Get up the New York Times fucking crossword right now.
Do you have it on your crossword, nerd?
I know.
I'm messaging a crossword puzzle constructor for the New York Times.
He has a magician and enigmatist.
These guys are wild boys.
Tell him I said fuck.
Don't worry.
He can be on campus.
What did you just say?
Enigmatist.
They're at the Kennedy Center.
I tell him I'm so fucking upset at him for this stupid shit.
Which day did you do it?
That was like a Thursday or something like that.
I can actually give it.
Are you at the New York Times app?
Because I can tell you the I'm on the website.
No, it's the New York Times crossword puzzle.
I actually looked up the people who did the one.
Name.
You found them?
Yeah, because it tells you on every single one who the people who constructed it.
So I don't know.
If Bones is B1S, that's a real problem.
It gets more complicated.
It was bones was within.
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It was like the lovely bones.
And Bones was spelled B1S.
I have to see it because in my mind, they can't be that fucked.
They can't be that stupid.
Nobody's stupid.
They're that fucked.
Nobody can get that.
Nobody can get that.
I'm sorry.
Why?
I'm sorry.
What did you say?
Why are you getting them?
I know.
How do you think it got?
He's justified.
How do you think it got?
If what he's saying is accurate, he's justified this one.
This is the first time he's justified it frustration ever.
Michael Schlossberg.
Hold on, let me pull it up.
It would be.
It would be.
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