Israel Adesanya details his victory over Alex Pereira, fueled by mushroom-induced flow states and a primal connection to his heritage via an Iruque staff. He reflects on knocking out Pereira after witnessing the fighter's son cry, while also promoting his upcoming Houston stand-up special and documentary "Stylebender." The conversation critiques UFC judging controversies, discusses potential rematches with Islam Makhachev, and highlights Adesanya's refusal to be a hero or guru, emphasizing that his story remains unwritten as he continues to challenge fans to higher standards. [Automatically generated summary]
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Welcome To The Motherfucking Building00:07:45
What's up everybody?
Welcome to Flagrant.
And you know who we got in the motherfucking building?
It's the champ.
The champ is here.
The last one I've ever at Sonia.
Okay, listen, I've been waiting months to ask you this.
Months to ask you this.
Let's go.
You said in the ring when you got the mic from Rogan, which is rare.
I don't know how you got that mic from.
Shout out to Joe.
Shout out to Joe.
But shout out to Joe for giving it to you.
I think he understood what that moment was for you.
Well, also, it could have gone slightly.
Imagine if I was one of these dudes and I grabbed the mic and I was just like, I don't know, bleep this.
And then I'm like, in the truck, like, get him off, get him off.
And Joe's like, you would have gotten so many new fans.
But like, you know, it could have gone either way.
So for him to give me the mic, and the thing is, so when how it happens is like when I'm in the shower, this is, I've always said the most honest place in the world.
I was visualizing, I visualized somebody.
I'll be visualizing in the shower too.
Yeah, and I have crowning things done.
Yeah, I mean, so do I.
But, you know, for fighting, when I do, it's like I feel everything.
And I remember being so happy while I was visualizing.
I was just like feeling so happy after the fight.
Like when I visualize the wind, I visualized the knockout.
I visualized the press conference, post-fight, pre-fight, fight week.
It just goes, it's like Tourette's.
I can't help it.
I'm just, I'm using that.
That's how it manifests.
I use my imagination.
So when I was visualizing, I just remember being so happy.
I might have been on shrooms in that shower, but as I was visual, I was so happy.
And I was like, man, I just want everyone to feel how happy I am right now.
Just once.
You said that.
That's all I wanted to say.
And everything else just came from player one.
And I just like a vessel.
And I just, like, I feel like a rapper.
I was literally just flowing.
And when I'm in that flow states, it just happens.
So yeah.
You just describe the feeling.
Because you said it.
Yeah.
And it felt like you meant it.
It didn't feel like it was prepared.
It felt like in that moment, I wish you could feel what I'm feeling.
Have you ever felt that happy in your entire life, childhood included?
Yeah.
I have.
What moments?
Great question.
That's a good one.
Okay.
I want to see if I can say.
Let me see.
Okay.
One recent one.
Recent one.
Let me think.
When I got Cinderu, my cat, rest in peace.
The day I got her, I was so happy.
So happy.
I used to have the little front pack.
I'll put her in it.
We'll go for work, walks, and things like that.
I felt happy like that many times in my life.
But for that moment, that's top five, top 10, one of the greatest moments.
London in my career in my life.
Izzy, I know you did not just compare knocking out Panetta to buying a new fucking cat.
No, no, I got it.
I got a cat.
I got a cat.
He didn't put it, but I didn't answer the shower.
You need more time to stop it.
But like, it is like, I've been waiting months to ask this question.
I'm not going to ask him online.
I need to know in person.
It's relative.
It's relative.
So for me, that moment was awesome.
And I just want everyone to feel.
I feel like those who don't like.
So either train for decades or buy a cat.
Yeah.
Either one.
Either one.
It's all perspective.
It's relative.
Yeah, pussy's pussy, bro.
That's what it is.
But yeah, for me, it was like, I just, so when two seconds, when I was in that moment, I just, those who don't like me, they'd be watching that fight and be like, yes.
I've seen so many reactions.
I watched so many reaction videos and I'd be like, yes, finally, again, it's going to happen again.
And then, oh, shit.
Example.
So who does?
Oh, so it was, oh.
Or people who love me, they're like, oh, no, he's against the fans again.
Oh, no.
Oh, yes.
The contrast, those two feelings.
And I feel like those who really love me felt the happiness in that moment.
Bro, let me tell you.
Let me tell you.
The whole building woke up.
I mean, it was just insane.
It was just in fucking.
I don't know why I went to the TV.
Yeah.
On us to survive.
Yes.
But yeah, I don't know why, like, it's a weird reaction.
Like, you go closer to the same thing.
And he goes, why?
Yeah.
Slaves.
Yeah, it's passion.
I was in someone else's house and I just started jumping up and down like crazy.
And we got neighbors here.
You know what I mean?
Like, you can't just jump up and down.
Bro, it was just so unbelievable.
And it was exactly what you described.
I was scared.
Yeah.
And then when you flipped it, all that went to sheer joy.
I legit was screaming.
My wife is like, dude, people, neighbors are going to think you're like beating me the way you're doing.
This is crazy.
My dog was shaking.
It was like fucking crazy.
Bro.
And the arrows, perfect.
Oh, my God.
Just from an improv perspective, I mean, you pulled out the whole, the whole thing.
Oh, that was plant.
And then you've been waiting to shoot arrows in the middle for fucking years.
As a dancer.
As a dancer, like, even with Crump, we have characters sometimes.
We were just like, we bring on the dance floor.
You try and like emulate.
So that helps me be able to create moments like that.
And I remember telling the referee, shout out to what's his name?
Dan Mergliata.
Because when he come, give you the rules.
I just remember, bro, if and when I sleep, this dude, I just need you to let me have my moment.
I won't touch him.
You've said that to him before the fight?
Yeah.
Yeah, I told Dan, I was like, let me have my moment.
I was just like, it gives me chills, dude.
We need that video.
Why don't I need that dude?
I think he would have filmed it.
Yeah, so I was like, just if I want to sleep him, just let me have my moment because I've been waiting how many years for that.
I said it last time in New York as well, but it wasn't my moment then.
It was his moment.
Great story for him.
But I was like, let me have my moment just because I won't touch him.
I won't hurt him.
He'll be there.
But just let me have my moment because I've been waiting so long to soak this up.
And Jeff's got a cool photo of me like, yeah, just like in my head rehearsing it.
How long has Jeff been filming you?
For life.
He's buried in 2016.
So what is that now?
It's like a year in his MMA, David.
Eight years, something like that.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, Jane Goodall?
Bro.
You said it.
Anyway, we're going to get to a tripod one of these years, bro.
It's been eight years.
This guy's been holding a camera like this with his arms shaking for eight fucking years.
A tennis Love.
He refuses to get him.
Also, hey, bring that camera back up.
What the fuck are you doing?
Fun fact, this nigga won $50,000 off a $25 bet.
What?
Wow.
On what?
Yesterday.
Yeah, on the other side.
Oh, I thought on you.
I thought you got some insider trading.
I'm going to get knocked out of New York.
Jeff, I'm not going to pay for you, but I'm going down to the fifth.
Let's go.
But he's been following me around for a long time.
And even with the film and stuff, he got a lot of the raw footage.
And I can be myself around him.
And I say Jane Goodall, like he studies me because he's seen me with so many different situations, so many different fans.
And he knows my go-to lines sometimes.
You know when I have to, you know, like NPC these people because they're giving the same energy back.
But yeah, I can be myself around him.
He knows when to film me.
He knows when not to film me.
He knows when to like be a fly on the wall, a big ass fly on the wall.
He knows how to catch certain moments.
And that's why.
That's why the documentary is fire.
Yeah.
I saw the documentary last night.
It was incredible.
And I want to talk about it later.
But there's still this moment in your life that is obviously pivotal to you.
But there's times where I don't know how big a deal it is for you, right?
Like when you came here after the loss, you really taught me how to lose and deal with loss.
You know, and I mean that sincere.
I'm very grateful for that.
So when you got the victory, I saw the joy, but there was also part of me that was like, well, he was fine after the loss.
Is he fine after the victory?
Is it sweet?
Like, tell me, I remember texting, I remember texting you.
Life Is So Exciting Right Now00:03:17
I remember texting the boys.
And I almost, and I couldn't be there, but you know why, but I literally was almost like, I'm about to fly down to my house.
That was crazy, bro.
Bro, I'm about to fly down to Miami Monday.
We tried to line that up as a podcast.
No, no, no, we tried and also even like a lot of people tried but then for me I just wanted to I told the boys I go fuck the podcast.
I want to go bario 11 in Miami So I finished work around say 130 a.m.
Go to this Sunday morning 1 30 a.m Got to the club around 2 11 Tim yeah club 11 shit was crazy.
It was packed even OBJ pulled up said what's up everyone else You know the Nelk boys Mike all these other different people as well Chuck Lidell and Tito on fucking stage Adeku Leg Gold Michael Venom Page Kamaru Usman were just hanging out It was a vibe and then I didn't sleep till about maybe 4 p.m.
Because I was just up and I studied the fight a little bit with my coaches and then Sunday night, Tootsie's upstairs, shoulder rubs had to and there was even a point of these few Brazilians went down in my end.
Well, they went down, but I couldn't go up put it that way because I was just so excited.
Actually, I told a dancer that I was like I'm just so excited with my life, like right now you're adorable yeah, that's right.
But like so it was a point.
You know you get a lap dance or whatever, but I want, I was just like you think you conquered the world, you want to do this.
But I was just like this is not even exciting to me right now.
I was like my life is so exciting, that's why I'm just this, it's not you, it's me, I'm just life.
So you weren't bricky for her and she got upset, no no, hold up, hold on, hold on hold on something on the planet.
And he just went like this, but I think he's going tell the story about when they both signed me up.
So for me I was like my life is so exciting right now that this is not you think, this is what you want to do, what you're supposed to do.
But I was like yeah, it's cool to be at Tootsies, it's an iconic spot.
But I was like this ain't even it right now.
Like my life is so exciting that this is not doing it for me.
Yeah, so that night after Sunday night Monday Tuesday Wednesday, I stayed in my room.
I just chilled in my room yeah, on my phone a lot.
I was, I was farming because again, people don't understand the numbers game.
You got, you got to run the numbers up, what you do, something crazy like that.
I know what it's like.
My my my, my Instagram socials, all that kind of stuff is going up.
So when these new companies want to see the insights oh, you're calculating the reaction.
Yeah, so I'm also on my phone just farming, and I had so many memes, I had so many clips, I had so many things I wanted to say.
I got receipts.
So you know I'm farming.
And then when they're posting a lot more, can we see the insights?
Um, for the last two months boom, the numbers is up, the money's up.
So people think oh, you're posting too much.
Adjusting After A Hurt Leg00:10:59
Oh, get over it.
I'm like nigga, it was only like two days ago, i'm gonna post as much.
There's no rooster this internet.
So I was posting Thing I was farming.
Tell Eugene that she was like, Yeah, he understands it, but he doesn't like it.
You know, but you know, there's a great moment in the documentary.
Simple touch on later.
But for me, I'm farming, I'm making money.
And Wednesday, I get back home, get home.
First thing I do, go see my teammates, say thank you because they put so much work into me.
Even leaving the gym to go to that fight, whenever I leave the gym the last like day, when I turn around and I bow and I leave the gym, I just like it's a it's a thing of like we're about to go to war.
You know what I mean?
It's one of those ones.
So I go back to say thank you to my teammates, then I go grab my dog toothless and I take my shoes off, go to the park with her because she don't give a fuck who stylebender is.
She's like, that's my boy, what's up?
And anyone that tried to say what's up, I say, what's up?
Any photos?
I'm like, I'm just chilling, man.
Thank you.
I'm just hanging out with my dog.
Yep.
Hang out with her for two days.
And then that's my way of trying to like come back down to my reality, just base, balance myself, you know, ground myself.
Before you get there, I need to know what's happening when you're alone in the hotel room reflecting.
Just take me through.
I got an Airbnb now because these fight hotels get crazy.
Okay.
Can we go back to two nights before that?
You improv this.
At what point do you look at Pereira's son?
You're like, this man.
Oh, that was payback.
I still feel this, that's just iconic.
I didn't even hesitate.
Lyria is just like visualization, man.
I've been here in my brain.
It just happened.
I was like, right.
Was it three for a reason?
Was it three for the three times he got you?
Or now it is.
But when it happened, I was like, it is.
But I find when you get to the cage, right, you can see everything.
So hyper-aware.
I can see literally the nosebleeds.
I can see where Trump was, Mike Tyson, Kid Rock, Dana White.
And I knew where his family was.
And then straight away, I was like, where's that little.
And then I remember his sister was trying to, because they were crying, and his sister was trying to shield them.
And I was like, and he looked at me.
I just went, and he got it straight away.
Of course, he didn't even cry.
I mean, that's fire.
I mean, bro.
If my son did that to someone I got, I knocked out, I'll just be like, what are you doing?
Come on, man.
Like, I'll make him apologize and I'll make him.
He did it in the ring, too.
Yeah.
While you were asleep.
Yeah.
So I was like, what the fuck?
So for me, I'm petty.
I am petty.
I took that personally.
Yeah.
Very personally.
So I had to let him know.
I don't react.
I respond.
And I take my time.
When I respond, yeah, the world knows.
They knew.
That was a wild situation.
How old is he now?
15 or 15.
Old enough.
He's old enough.
That's what I was saying.
That's a fight everyone wants to see.
We need to make that happen.
You versus Perez's son, bro.
We need to make it.
Imagine.
That'd be funny.
Just for the anime.
Just for the anime, bro.
You got to let it happen.
Oh, maybe I'll see.
I can still fight.
Maybe we're at 44.
We'll see.
We'll see.
You guys got it.
You got to pass this shit out 100%.
Nah, I think it's cool.
And I haven't seen Alex at the airport.
People think it's going to be like...
I actually love your guy's relationship, man.
It's like, there's this weird thing that happened.
Yeah, there's a fascinating thing that only you guys understand because you've only been in the ring with each other.
But a real cool thing happened afterwards.
He didn't seem to hold much of a grudge against you.
I also feel like he probably feels full because he knows he's gotten you before.
You get your revenge.
You have this respect for one another.
And then you did this interesting thing backstage.
You started asking him about that leg kick that he throws that's a tricky fucking leg kick because he doesn't turn his hip at all.
And also, he's so just a massive human being.
Yeah.
His, like, we're both 6'4, I believe, but he's a big 6'4.
Yeah, he's a big, like, he's not a big head.
I've got big hands.
Yeah.
Well, all right, bro.
Come on, House.
Come on.
Come on, Al.
You gotta pick me.
Pick that motherfucker.
Pick me?
No, Archaeo.
He'll get a little hit on him.
He's going to be like, you know what time it is, right?
That makes your dick look smaller.
You know, your dick looks smaller.
I'd be trying to wrangle my shit.
But he's just a massive human being.
But the way he throws that leg kick, he doesn't turn his hip over.
And when it hits, it hits.
Like the first strike that landed in that fight was the leg kick.
And I was like, in my history, I was like, again.
Again.
Yep.
I was like, again.
And we were ready for it.
Me and Twist, we knew the counter to it.
But afterwards.
All right, fine.
Kiddie, kiddo, kid, kick.
But afterwards, when I watched that fight, I was like, every time he threw a body jab, that was a setup because a body jab, he'd be low and then just boom, whip.
And I was like, fuck.
But when he hurt my leg, and it did hurt my leg, but I used it.
I was like, fuck, well, that's blood in the water now.
So when I saw his confidence starting to grow, I was like, right, I'm just going to just move back a little bit and just show.
I used that twice.
You did something early in the fight that had me fucking terrified.
When I tried to brawl with him.
Son.
Yeah.
The first time he steps in.
One of that.
But I knew you wanted it, and that's how I knew it was kind of different.
And I was actually afterwards.
I got excited.
But the first time he steps in, he threw something.
You put your hands up and then you swung.
It was maybe two or three shots.
Boom, boom.
I don't know if either one of you guys actually landed, but I remember going, what the fuck is going on here?
After that, the next combo, he landed that hook, but it didn't even like affect me or anything like that.
But in that moment, Eugene, this camp, he was like, I like that you guys didn't run.
Yeah.
Hannah, you said you were offensive-minded.
He said, I want to be, and I was like, thank you, finally.
And I even told him, like, you're going to be stressed out.
That's fire.
Good.
I told him I was like, you're going to be stressed out because I'm going to be in the fire.
Son, I was so impressed.
You watched the sparring, the last sparring, and I remember like my leg was hurt because injury in the camp two weeks out from the fight.
Fucking bad.
Was that meniscus?
Nah, it was a MCL.
Yeah, meniscus.
Yeah.
English.
But like, for me, when I was sparring, I was with my sparring puzzle.
I was just like, they were trying to eat easy on me.
And I was like, nah, give me the fucking, like, give me the work.
I want to feel the fire.
So when we're in there, I was like, finally, I just wanted to feel like I was in a fight.
It's been a while because everyone else is too scared.
They all try to pretend they want to fight, but they want to survive.
So I was like, someone, he beat me.
I was like, fine, he's not going to run.
Let's go.
I want to be in the fire.
And then I was in the fire and I was thriving.
So when it happened, that whole sequence at the end, I blocked all the shots apart from the body shot.
The knee even missed.
I blocked it.
I got that.
I got the lead.
And I was like, boom.
Now, when you're in that corner, are you thinking I'm going to get an opening?
Did you have any of that plan?
Or are you just like keep your head up and keep it?
I remember just like being there.
We're cool.
We're cool.
Because I gave it to him.
I was like, right.
So you're thinking we're cool.
You're not panicked in this.
It's not panicked a lot.
It's more like just muscle memory because you train so much.
It's your body response.
When I say muscle memory, memory, that says it can retain information.
So my body can retain information from the work that we've done all the time.
It's a reaction.
You're not even thinking about it.
It's just close thing.
We're just going.
So when he, like, I was like, my legs hurt.
And I know he's hungry for it right now.
So I was like, right, I'm just going to give him, give him the look.
I back up against the cage and I made sure I took care of everything.
You see, my eyes were on him the whole time.
Locked on.
I was on the whole time.
And when I hit him, boom, that didn't even feel like nothing.
But what second one was crazy?
No, what was cool was when I sprang off the fence, I literally felt like I, like, I, like a vortex.
I went, the speed.
I was surprised.
I was like, damn, that's crazy.
Boom.
And I killed him.
No, it was the overhand right.
What made you go on the defense?
Because my leg was hurt.
So it was a leg kick.
Yeah, my leg was hurt.
Because immediately after the fight, you're like, nah, I was playing possum.
No, I was playing possum.
So I used it as bait.
You know what I mean?
He was hurt, but he leaned into it.
He knows he landed a leg kick.
So now he goes, oh shit, I'm hurt.
I'm going to use a bunch of people.
I'm going to use a treat.
I know he's going to hit.
He's hungry for it.
He wants to try and he knows I'm hurt.
I know I'm hurt.
So I know he thinks like, oh, it's going to be over soon.
I'm about to knock him out.
So he got killed.
He started to throw with no defense.
He wasn't even like, he didn't knock on the door.
You got to knock on the door.
Like, you know, I thought you were looking at it.
Look at a guy like Ian Gary.
Shout out to him.
He's fighting in Vegas as well.
I think he's fighting in Vegas.
Oh, he just fought recently.
But you look at his last fight.
He just, beautiful finishing sequence, but he knocked on the door.
You got to see if someone's home.
See what the reaction is coming back.
So he didn't knock on the door.
He just got confident and thought, I'm just going to barge in.
But you got to, nigga, wipe your feet before you come to my house.
But you, it's interesting, is it?
Looked like you were looking for that right hand.
Because I was.
There was a lot of people.
During the fight, yeah.
During the fight, I was.
But the thing is, when I was...
You almost caught him early.
You're not quite on the ring.
I kept on catching him, but I wasn't catching him at some points because he was just leaning.
Yeah, he leaned back a little bit.
So that's why I was like, right, if Moses can't go to the mountain, the mountain's going to come to Moses.
So I was like, right, I'm just going to give it to him.
So I gave it to him and then I gave it to him.
And it was fucking the last time when you almost dropped him in the first round.
Same sequence.
This time you made it a point to adjust.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Drop him this time.
When I did as well, I fired back.
So I said, I came off the fence, boom.
And then the hammer fist was awesome.
It was just something that, like, that was, I remember when it was happening as well, I had, it's crazy how much thought, like, the brain just has all these like flashes of things in split seconds.
I remember just like, this is for everything.
Boom.
This is all happening.
Hammer fist from the gods.
Yeah, from the gods.
Oh, bro.
It was one of those moments, like I said, greatest, six weeks before the fight, I was doing a Silicon trip because I wanted to get in touch with my primal self.
So I had a trip, some mushroom chocolates, and then I had the shower.
And after the shower, I wrote on my mirror, April 8th, Miami, 2023, the greatest comeback in sporting history.
It was written by me.
So every time I looked in the mirror, I'd see it and it would just affirm it to myself.
And then in the car, I would just recite it randomly.
It was like Tourette's.
So when it came down to it, the greatest comeback in sporting history, written by me.
Wow.
Unreal.
I'm curious about the mushrooms.
How does that help you access that?
Like, what was that experience like?
So you can do micro doses and it just helps you, I feel like, tap into yourself.
So I started to like grunt.
I remember just like, I would just sit there and just like listen to lo-fi music.
And I'm like, yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
And it's just like breathing.
I just lie down.
You feel your breath.
And you just like, it's a personal experience.
But for me, I just, I wanted to tap into my like primal self, like that, the dog in me, that dog in him.
I know I do.
And I know I can beat this guy.
Look, he can fight me 10 more times and beat me all 10 more times.
I don't give a fuck.
I just wanted to prove to myself I can fuck this dude up because I know I can.
First time I fucked him up, just gave it to him.
Second time, I was beating him, fucking him up, and he got me.
Third time, same thing out here, MSG.
I was fucking him up.
Then he got me.
And I'm just like, fuck, I can beat this guy.
I know I can.
So that's what I just, I was like, this is my eight-mile moment.
I have to do it.
Now, humans love these stories, right?
Like, we love the underdog stories.
And because so often we feel like underdogs in life and the story doesn't go that way for us.
Vulnerability As A Coping Mechanism00:15:10
Yeah.
So when it does go that way for someone, we exalt them, right?
We like gravitate towards them.
I'm sure everybody in the world in that moment was in your DMs and texting you.
It was crazy.
FaceTiming you.
I know that, and obviously from watching the documentary, but also just from knowing you for years that like, how do you start to like create a little bit of barrier, a little bit of separation for the group for the adulation?
Like, do you take it all in and you go, okay, they really love this achievement?
Do you, do you go, oh, I'm that great and they should appreciate me like this?
Your homeboy said, you're never as good as they say you are.
Yeah, all that matters is how you see yourself.
So I take it all in.
I appreciate the love, even the hate.
It's just fuel.
It helps me.
But I don't hold on to it.
Even the love, I never hold on to it.
I used to back in the day when I was younger because I didn't understand.
Same with the hate.
I used to because I didn't understand that that sits with you.
So I appreciate it.
I take it, but I let it go.
I let it pass through me, but I appreciate it.
And yeah, you just have to, it's about how you see yourself.
Fuck with anyone else.
Who's your flatmate up here?
Yeah.
What's he saying to you?
You know, that voice in your head.
So that's what I worked on this camp.
I was isolated a lot.
I literally just like anything that wasn't in line with this fight, cut it out of my life.
Anyone cut them out of my life.
That was it.
Did people understand?
They got it.
Like my family already knows, but people, I mean, if, yeah, if you're not on that level with me, you're not that level with me.
Yeah.
You had an interesting line in the documentary that spoke to me where you talked about being a people pleaser.
Ah, that's from that still rears its ugly head once in a blue moon.
And I understand it now.
So I'm able to like recognize it.
Like, ah, I'm doing that shit again.
Then I pull it back.
And that's why I have like my big brother Pauli or Ike.
They shadow me because when I get drunk, I'm like a Labrador or golden retriever.
I'm just like, everyone's my friend buying shots.
But then I'm not, I think it came from when I moved to New Zealand.
It was a coping mechanism for people to like.
Want to be accepted?
Yeah.
For sure.
Are we twins?
Yeah.
No, but like it was something, you know, so it just, and even if people didn't like me, I'd still try to fit in, try and please.
And then eventually I had to realize that, nah, I wasn't meant to fit in.
I have to stand out.
Yeah, but the tricky thing about being a people pleaser, the great thing about the documentary, and we just watched it was in the Tribeca Film Festival, and I don't know where people can see it.
Not yet.
Oh, there's still like a few screenings left, I think.
Okay, so go check it out.
Stylebender, it's called.
If you can, get tickets.
But it was this great observation of dealing with fame.
Yeah.
And that line was so interesting because being a people pleaser when not that many people want you to please them is easy.
Being a people pleaser when the world is asking for you to please them becomes anxiety and stress.
And you can get resentment for all these people that are trying to take your attention from you.
And like there's this moment in the fucking dock where like you're walking that, maybe you should describe it, but like you're walking.
Isn't it crazy how on that day they decided to come film?
What I was describing a few minutes beforehand actually happened.
That's why I had to move from that house.
I wasn't living there at the time when I was filming, but my dogs were there.
But then people, like, people would just come knock on my door.
He was living in like a neighborhood neighborhood.
Yeah.
Like the whole story.
Everybody around, everybody knew.
That was my first house.
Yeah.
That was my first house.
I've not blown up.
I'm like Chinese in New Zealand now.
I'm buying everything.
Yeah, me how am I?
But yeah, so I just needed privacy.
I didn't, and I'd tell people, like, what are you doing?
They're like, oh, but can I get it?
I'm such a big, I'm like, bro.
People would knock on the door and just be like, hey, can I get a picture?
And he's complaining about going through this.
And it is like a little bit of an invasion of your privacy, but at the same time, you have this people pleaser part of you, right?
What did I do in the documentary when he knocked?
Bro, immediately goes out, takes a picture with the whole family, et cetera, right?
But it happened right after saying that this is why I had to move out of the area.
But here's the thing: if you're not a people pleaser, you just go, I'm just at home right now.
I feel good.
When you are, it actually creates a greater anxiety because you feel like you've let those people down.
Now you have this guilt you're carrying around.
So now you resent the people for giving you the guilt that you're carrying around.
What I've done now is protect my energy.
So even now, I'm okay with saying no, and I don't have to explain myself.
So when I tell people no, I'm fine with it.
And I don't care what they think or, because you know what?
At the beach, you feed one seagull, and they're mine, It's like that.
And they think, oh, at the airport, oh, just one bro.
I'm like, bro, you're not the only one like this.
I can case five people.
I don't want it to be a hot chick, bro.
I walk in the bar and I know, okay, this guy's looking at me, that table's looking at me, that guy's approaching me, da-da-da-da.
They come, oh, bro, I gotta buy you a show.
I gotta buy the championship.
I'm good, bro.
But imagine if I was a hot chick and it's like, I gotta buy you a shirt.
No, I'm good.
They still push.
But when I'm like, yo, I'm good.
I'm okay with it.
Because there's been times I'll say yes and it'll sit with me.
I'm like, why did I give that person my attention?
And it'll sit with me, like literally eat at me for about three days, maybe a week.
And then I'm just like, and it might be something so minuscule.
But I was just like, fuck, I should have said no.
Is there a specific moment when that switch happened?
Can I guess?
This is documentary stuff.
I don't know.
I'm like looking at these things and I'm like, these are formative, you know, moments of your life.
There's the footage of you.
You're like an outcast.
You're kind of bullied.
You're New Zealand.
Maybe few friends or no friends.
You do a talent show at high school.
In high school.
Yeah.
And like really kill it.
And just by himself does like the breakdancing, right?
And then you said afterwards, immediately after that, I had some street credit.
I had some cloud people want to be friends.
So now you know friendship and love is transactional.
You can resent people for that.
Oh, you like me because I'm nice at dancing.
When I was nice to you before and just wanted to eat around people, you didn't want to fuck with me at all.
But now that I could break dance now, whatever.
And I wonder if that, if you can like extrapolate that to also winning.
Oh, when I win, everybody wants to hang out.
But when I'm, when I lose, now the DMs aren't flooded.
Or maybe you don't even realize it in high school, but when it happens as a pro, that's still there.
And then it's triggered.
You're like, oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's over time it happened.
We're like Oprah, bro.
Yeah, oh, bro.
It's like therapy.
How much you pay for the session.
Not how much you pay for the Winnebago girl.
She's also shouting.
And that's the thing I like about the film as well.
Instead of just sitting down with a camera and doing like a one-on-one interview, I was able to practice what I preached.
You know what I mean?
But the moment, I feel like it's overtime in this experience, like trial and error, dealing with it, learning how to deal with like nose.
Because even now, I still got chips on my shoulder, man.
Like, I know me.
And I'm like, even after the loss, I was fine.
I was able to live my life.
People still love me.
They still call me Champ in the Streets.
So I was like, you know how they say, like, oh, when you lose the belt, it's like a pressure off your shoulders.
I was like, I'm still Israel.
I did something.
Like, it was still, you know, people want to take that name.
So they still, they were still coming after me.
But for me, like, like I said, it's about protecting my energy, looking after myself.
But that people pleaser, that's where it raises ugly head.
And that chip in my shoulder, it's like, oh, like Mike Jones.
You know, back then, they didn't want me.
Now I'm hot.
Hozozo on me.
That kind of vibe.
So I was just like, oh, it's like that now.
But I'm aware of it.
I'm aware of it.
So when you're aware of the monster, you're able to nullify it.
Yeah, it's in that self-awareness.
Yeah, I would almost like recommend people watch the documentary if they don't know who you are.
Yeah, I agree.
Like, it's, I feel like it's even more interesting because you have no preconceived notion of who you think I am.
Yeah.
You know, I like even people sometimes like say, we're a group of friends, right?
And sometimes I'll go in a bar or something and then like a group of people know me and they're like, oh my God.
And then there'll be one person like, I'm sorry, I just, I don't know who you are.
It's okay.
I don't know who you are.
I'm Israel.
What's your name?
And I prefer that.
I actually prefer that because it's like I get to meet someone who has no preconceived notions of you.
They have no expectations.
You know, so I'm like, this is rare for me these days.
So, oh, thank you.
Nice to meet you.
And I can actually have a real conversation and like get to know someone for me rather than like, oh, they think they know me or what they've seen on YouTube or on TV or my fighting.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, for the people who have seen you, I'm curious because we as entertainers, very different field, but you only see a slice of our personality.
You see a slice of him, who he is on stage.
You, you see the promo Izzy, the fighter, Izzy.
You don't necessarily see me a nice guy is he who wants to get to know everybody.
He's not going to sell pay-per-views necessarily.
So are you relieved that even the people who might have preconceived notions of you are like, oh, that's who he really is.
This is a 360-degree view of who he is.
Yes, I feel like people get to see a little bit more of my personal stuff.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
My, but.
Bro, it's really, it's not.
You know what's fire seeing the shit about you that's not cool?
What?
Like, like in it, like, you just, there's vulnerable shit, like things that you say and you know you fucked up.
Eugene.
Yeah, with the Eugene shit.
And like, you even catch yourself in the moment.
Like, Eugene is the coach.
And like, there's a line where he's like...
I'll do this.
Bro, you gotta let the...
No, a little bit.
Yeah.
Okay.
Just a little bit.
Just a little bit.
Whisper, whisper, whisper, whisper.
No, the bad thing.
No.
But I even mean.
My point is, like, you're saying things you were, like, you regret.
Yeah, you gotta catch me.
Yeah, and then you catch yourself and you adjust.
But like, it's a rare thing when you're being videotaped that you will be emotionally reactive knowing that someone's videotaping.
The reason prank videos work is because...
Oh, that's why.
Yeah, that's why.
That's why.
I was just, you know.
That's why.
You know, it's a funny thing.
In the end of it, I was just like, I need to go home and calm down.
Because I recognize, like, I'm up.
I'm in this parasympathetic nervous system or whatever.
So I was like, okay, I can recognize it.
Again, self-awareness.
I understand.
Like, okay, I'm not myself right now.
I need to go up and calm down.
But I was really angry because of the thing that was happening.
And I just, that was just me doing this.
But that's what you're not going to see in a documentary.
And it's kicked in.
We all do that.
You're also not going to see it in a documentary about yourself.
Everybody's going to put the best version of themselves out there.
Yeah.
Is it difficult to keep the vulnerable parts in the edit?
Nope, because I am a vulnerable person.
But there's the bits that he's talking about.
When you guys see it, it's like, I cringe because I'm like...
Good.
That's real.
That's real.
The world's going to see this.
Even the dancing bits.
Because like I said, for me, dancing is so, like the artistic bits in between, where it's like, when they talked about the urinal in high score, then I'm dancing in a bathroom.
And it's just like this artist, like, it was like Rise, you know, Dave LaChapelle, like a little bit, those little bits and pieces.
And it was just like, for me, some people might get it, some might not get it.
But for me, when I watch it, it's literally, I'm just like, the world's seeing how I'm expressing myself in those moments.
And I'm just like, I don't mind because fuck him.
But at the same time, this is me just being me.
And I've always kept the same energy.
So why would I ever stop now?
So on the big screen, my documentary debut, stay true to who I am.
Huge announcement for me.
I'm so fucking excited about this.
I'm filming my first full-length stand-up comedy special in Houston on September 2nd.
I had to do it in Texas.
We found a beautiful space at White Oak Music Hall, September 2nd.
Hurry up and buy tickets at akashing.com.
Again, everything that I have accomplished thus far, whatever growth I made is because of you guys, because of this podcast.
I'm so grateful for all of it, and I cannot wait to take it to the next level.
So go to akashsing.com, buy your ticket September 2nd.
Let's blow this shit out.
Let's make it the greatest comedy special that has ever happened.
I love y'all.
Thank you so much.
Now let's get back to the show.
And we're back.
Let me read.
Let me read.
Yeah, no, we got some Jack too.
Thank you, thank you.
Give me the real shit.
Give me the real shit.
Bro, it was great.
It was dope.
I mean, you're so good at putting out your authentic self, but I don't know if that was always the case.
What's your advice to people that maybe just have like regular jobs or that want to be creatives that have difficulty putting out their authentic selves?
Do it.
That's my advice.
Do it.
It's nerve-wracking.
It's annoying, but I feel do it because those who fuck with you will fuck with you.
That's how I get.
That's why I feel like it's a lot of people.
Sometimes I'll just put some random shit on my Instagram just to weed out the bullshit.
Thank you.
Because I feel like those who understand me will know, like, oh, that's Israel.
We've been here since 2013.
We know he's that.
Like, Valentine's Day, I used to, one time, the first time I did it, I fought on Valentine's Day in Adelaide, Nisa Fury.
And I think I was heartbroken at the time, and I was fighting on Valentine's Day.
I even came out to Luther Vandro's never too much.
It's on YouTube.
It was fucking, it was a cool entrance.
But that day, while I was waiting for the fight at the hotel, I just, I went on the gram and I posted probably like 85 memes.
The captions were the ones.
Thank you.
The captions were funny.
Well, I literally just posted just memes, just roasting, just love.
But it was just me fucking around and I was just having fun with it, killing time while I was waiting for my fight because I'm just lying in bed.
And, you know, people, oh, I'm going to follow in.
This is too much.
Because, you know, you're only allowed to post on some weird, unwritten rule, like once a day or whatever.
But I'm like, who the fuck?
It's the internet.
There ain't no rules to this bitch.
So this is me trying to weed out like the bullshit.
So sometimes you'll see me post some weird shit and then it's just like, what the fuck?
Like, then those who don't fuck with me, they can just.
And even if you're still uncomfortable about whatever moments in the documentary, I would say, I'm trying to form the sentence as I think of it, but like that's very, it's a very fucking cool thing you do that you are open with your losses.
You came on here the day after you got knocked out.
And then the day after you knocked him back out, you were like, no, I need to be myself.
Yeah.
And it's really, I think, cool for people to see a champion still be open and vulnerable and talk about the losses in the bad moments.
And I think we all are like, yo, fuck.
If this guy who I see is a superhuman, who literally knocks human beings out for a living, if he can be human, I can be human to fuck up.
You have a bad show, you have a bad date, you talk to a girl and fuck it up.
It's like, bro, that's it.
Whatever.
It's a numbers game, man.
Just run it up.
Keep shooting.
That's what it is.
But like, I mean, no matter what, no matter what, I feel like you just have to stand up with your head tall.
No matter what.
Even one thing you said, I think you said it the best was you seeing you okay.
You even said Duval was like, man, I feel bad.
But then you said, seeing me okay made you feel okay.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I felt the same way recently with Kai.
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He fought, got robbed badly.
Yeah.
Badly, like horribly.
But then I was fucking angry.
But then I sent him a message, I think a video while he was in the back.
And he sent me one back afterwards when he was going to the win or whatever.
And seeing him chill made me feel wild.
Exactly.
So it did that for me as well.
So I was like, okay, he's fine.
I can be fine.
But I was still angry.
And bro, fuck these guys, man.
I feel like even in boxing, if a judge or judges fuck up and it's a controversial scorecard, they need to be on the post-fight press conference podium.
Oh, that's a good one.
No.
Have them do a post-fight press.
No, you know, the fighters go, Dana goes, and the judges go, okay.
So, sir, why did you give him the money?
Why did you see?
Hey, thank you.
The fourth round where Kai won the fucking round.
How did you decide, you know what?
Fuck this guy.
That's actually a great idea.
No, but they're never going to do it because they like, boy, if you do it, it'll change the system.
And they'll have to be held accountable and actually judge.
You know what I mean?
You know what the tricky thing about with that specifically in UFC?
I understand it in boxing when like the different promoters have their fighters and they want their fighters to win.
In UFC, they represent all the fighters.
It doesn't benefit them in any way to give a shitty decision.
There's a conspiracy that Chance, my boy Chance, kind of put me onto because Volk, I was in Perth.
I was right there.
Me and Ash, when it happened, fifth round, I lost my shit, bro.
I was like, he's done it.
This guy that people were like, oh, and he's a great fighter, you know, from that side of Dagestanis.
They're fucking awesome at their wrestling and whatnot.
But this guy has a myth.
And Alex fucked him up.
It's like the scene in 300 when the...
Actually, you see the first one round when Alex told me, Alex told me when he was on his back, body trying.
Alex is like, I thought you were going to finish me.
Come on.
It was great.
Come on, come on.
Come on.
Yeah.
And in the fifth round, Alex finishes on top.
And then me and Ash, I see Ash and both cancers, Cancelio, and like, I'm emotional.
He's crying.
I'm crying.
I'm hugging them.
And I was like, fuck it, he did it.
And then Red Hawk Chili Peppers are playing that night in the fucking 60,000 sold-out arena.
So it would have been Alex double champ.
Boom.
Goes to Red Hawk Chili Peppers that night.
Oh, bro.
And I feel like they stole his moments away.
But the conspiracy is Chance put me onto these.
He said, like something about...
Yeah.
We're all flavoring, bitch.
So I didn't say this.
Chance said this.
Yes.
I didn't say Chance.
This is all chance.
This is all chance.
This is Chance and Tequila and Jack Daniels.
But he said, like, you look at the movement right now in Flat Island, Abu Dhabi, the stake they have in the UFC.
You know, it pays them to have a champ that's from that side of the world.
Oh, that's right.
Because Saudi Arabia is going to play crazy amounts of money for a fight.
Qatar is going to pay crazy amounts of money.
I don't think that you, like you said, with Walkstan, it's different because each promoter has their own fighter that they want to win.
And it kind of like feels close to them.
But the Islam, listen, the Islam-Volk fight was close at least.
The Kai flight for the fight.
I think it was 4-1.
I think it was 4-1.
It was competitive.
Islam Volk?
Or Kai?
No, Kai.
Kai.
It was a horrible decision.
It was competitive, but he won 4-1 in my eyes.
4-1.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
Islam Volk 3-2.
I thought I had Volk winning, but I wasn't upset with a 3-2.
Islam, I was like, okay, I could see how certain rounds.
Trust me, I was biased.
But listen, we love Volk here, but it was one of those things where it's like in the Nate Diaz street fight rules, we know who won the fight.
Thank you.
Exactly.
Because one guy could barely stand up at the end.
Yeah, and the other guy was doing jumping.
He had a fucking shiner, all that kind of stuff.
So it's like...
Put it this way: Islam don't want that fight again.
He's gonna get it again.
Oh, he's gonna get it.
Yeah, but he don't want it.
Like, he is glad that Volk is going to fight.
What is it?
Pentoja or something?
What is his name?
What's his name?
Yeah.
What's his name?
Pantera.
Pantera?
What's the guy's name that's a nice thing?
Oh my gosh.
Hold on.
No disrespect.
I know his name.
Oh, my God.
Pentoja, no?
No.
Rodriguez.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we have.
That's his nickname, motherfucker.
Pantera.
Pantera.
I said Pantera.
Yeah, I said Pantera.
Okay.
Okay.
Anyway, yeah.
That was close.
No, why did they just run it back with this one, man?
You have to go to UFC, bro.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I mean, hey, I'm on the brass.
They have their own plans.
But, like you said.
That's what he has to go back.
Yeah, he has to go back down to Featherweight, defend the belt.
Does he have to?
I mean, bro, like, you can't hold up the division.
It's not to hold it up.
If we look at Volk in rematches.
Yeah.
And keep in mind, Max coming through tomorrow.
That's my motherfucking guy.
I love Max.
I've met him before.
He was there last night?
Bro, I love that dude.
He's still a little bit more.
Max is one of the coolest guys on the plane.
He's cool energy.
It's that aloha all day.
It's real talk.
It is.
But I think Max will even say, wow, this guy improved from each fight.
Yeah.
Right?
He did.
So I can't see that not happening.
Yeah.
Why can't it be Islam?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Definitely.
Oh, trust me, no.
We evolve.
That's it.
Easy.
We evolve.
I think that's an easy deal.
That's like the four-minute mile.
Once it go broke.
Once one person breaks it, it's over.
So once Volk did what he did in real life, now people are afraid of Islam.
That's like me.
I knocked this guy out now.
I'm like, bro, if we fought 10 times again, I'm knocking him out 10 times.
Every single time.
Yeah, because I know it's a damn.
I know now.
I got his number down.
People thought he had my number.
But once I've done it now, I've actualized it.
It's like, oh, I can do it now.
Well, you said you asked him something about the leg kick.
Yeah.
What did he tell you?
I just asked him, like, I don't know how he did that, but I just, I think it's just limited English.
But pretty much I just gave him props.
I was like, you with that leg kick is fucking dangerous.
Because it's a thorn.
It's a hard leg quick kick without turning over the hip at all.
And he just, there's no tell.
And even though he doesn't, like, when you leg kick, sometimes you have to step.
He just step.
It's a quick step, quicker to step, quicker to kick.
Even a head kick.
Quicker to step, quicker to kick.
That's like the general rule.
But he doesn't even step.
He's just there, just like, boom.
This fucking stone thing.
Soccer shit, bro.
Yeah, actually.
It looks as if he doesn't come across.
It looks as if he comes almost up.
But then his leg still does this and still hits you.
Yeah.
It's just like did y'all like share?
Yeah, we did.
Um, at the airport, so when we went through the scanner thing, put our shoes under the other side.
I'm just like, ready to fight again?
Put the vessel in your forehead.
Like, I'm not here.
And Ash was the first one to see it.
He's like, is that I was like, nah.
Oh, shit, it is.
So we kind of like were behind them for about two minutes or so.
Then I was gonna, I was gonna be like, hoy, but then I didn't.
And we took that video.
It was cool.
But then we talked about the Jan fight, and then I kind of gave him some tips, if you will.
We kind of have the same idea because then that's what I was just, I was saying like the way Jan fights, and he knows.
So I was like, oh, you're going to catch him with this.
But I was like, but be careful because we also thought he's going to do this, but because we're great strikers, or because I'm a great striker, excuse me, he was patient.
He took his time.
So I said, just he's probably going to be patient with you.
And he's not a bad striker.
His walking is underrated.
He's just weird.
He's not weird striking, but he takes his time.
He takes his time.
When he does, he's good.
But with other guys who aren't great strikers, he rushes and he can get clipped like that.
If he rushes against Spartan, I think he'll.
But that's the thing with Politan.
Like, he's coming up and waiting and Jan has good control on the ground, right?
Like, he's got jiu-jitsu bad.
He takes him down.
I think he'll probably just hold him down or beat him up there.
But up top, I feel like Alex going to.
But that does speak to what Andrew was saying earlier with you guys having this beautiful relationship where after the fight, it's just.
I wish you messed with him at TSA, though.
I wish you put the brass knuckles in his back.
Payback.
Okay.
Yeah, why is it like, do you guys feel this way?
Like, when fighters who have had these wars are actually friends, it makes me happy.
I don't say we're friends.
I don't say we're friends right now.
No, no, not friends, but like.
There's mutual respect.
Yeah.
I get, I get, I don't know if you're a kid.
I get wins of 125 bell.
Trust me, you'll see a friend.
But I get a joy from it.
Why is that?
Like, I wonder as a consumer why I like seeing these guys who put it all out there.
I think we like happy endings.
I do.
Yeah, it's like shout out to Cheese.
But yeah, I think we like happy endings.
You know, like, went through a war.
We've been through four fights across two different sports.
And then it's like the mutual respect and adoration for each other's skills, you know, regardless of everything.
I'll go to Brazil.
I'll see him.
I'll say what's up.
I'll hang out in his hood.
You know, but yeah, it's even he was in my neck of the woods.
I thought he was going to come to his yellow and he didn't.
But he was meant to pull up to this fight where I saw Tyson Fury.
But apparently he didn't pull up because I was there.
But I'm like, I don't care.
I would have liked to say what's up.
And you're like, oh, you're in my neck of the woods.
You also know something about each other that very few people know.
Yeah, we know.
Exactly.
You know.
Share an experience.
It's like when Sergeant Kutchu, but like, it's like when, you know, past presidents are always friends.
Is that thing?
Yeah, like George Bush is hanging out with Obama.
Like, Trump might be the only one in the fucking.
But like, what they've experienced.
Yeah, George Bush and Michelle are like, yeah, they really do.
Yeah, they're like trading candies.
Michelle Obama.
Michelle Obama.
And George Bush Jr.
Yeah, it's adorable.
Americans are like.
They did about the same while they were in office.
But it's like, but it's just this one thing where it's like, it's such a unique experience that they can't really share with anybody else.
So once you've had that, at least I can be honest with you.
At least I can vent with you about that.
You get it.
Yeah.
I think it's why a lot of times like country clubs even exist.
It's like rich people want to be in a place where they can complain to other rich people where poor people aren't going, oh, it must be so hard.
What are other poor people doing?
They don't want to know.
That's my joke.
You just slipped in there.
If Berera gets a championship, you're going to just try to pronounce it.
I try.
I try.
I want to go right.
It don't matter.
We don't need to respect it.
If he gets another championship, you said you'll fight it for a while.
He's going up to 50.
If he gets a belt, he can catch the smoke.
Oh, I thought you said it was dude.
It's always done, but there's always that little case.
You said you're locking his favela when you're 55.
Right here.
That's what I said.
But now I've beat him, so keep that.
Beat him as dumb.
What was your thoughts on the whole Tyson Fury John Jones thing?
I mean, I saw Tyson and I said, look, you should, I think just learn how to sprawl.
You'd be right.
Really?
Yeah.
So if you could defend the takedown.
But again, it's John Jones.
Yeah, it's easier to say.
Yeah, exactly.
And also, it's Tyson Fury.
He doesn't know how to sprawl.
Yeah.
And he was like, listen, man, you ain't fucking getting me in a cage or whatever.
He had a different energy.
Yeah.
But it's real life.
It's real life shit.
It's like you have to understand the reality of what's actually happening.
I love boxing.
I was at, I was watching the TO Lopez and the Taylor fight.
It was a fucking awesome fight.
Bro, Tio and I don't know what he did.
Super Saiyan.
He was starting to like literally in the flow state.
I like when I see not just a fighter, even a dancer.
Anyone go in the zone.
I know when I see that when someone is in a zone, then you're like, ooh, and they go in it, they come out of it, they go back in it.
Somebody would stay in it.
But Tio was just going in the zone.
He'll pop out for a little bit.
I think he took round 10 off just to rest, but he'll be in the zone.
There's one point, did some shit, touched his foot, caught him with the off-beat.
Oh, my God.
That was magic.
The whole place was going crazy.
The Scottish people, the fucking Mexicans, it was nuts and bananas.
And like a little intimate theater.
But yeah, I like seeing someone go into a zone.
What are you talking about?
Oh, fuck, I lost my train thought.
Tyson Fury, John Jones.
Yeah, nah, boxing is different from fighting.
I mean, from like actual fighting.
Oh, the greatest fight in the world.
Yeah.
If you want to be the greatest fighter in the world, you have to be able to fight other styles.
There's not just one style of fighting.
This is why I'm a kickboxer.
That's why I started in.
And I love grappling because it was fun to watch.
And watching the UFC, it was learned.
Like Jeroga would be explaining what's happening.
I'm like, oh, that's cool.
That's cool.
But I had to learn.
I put my ego aside.
And I was like, if I really want to be the best fighter in the world, I could have been the best kickboxer in the world and just like done that, made okay money, made live really nicely, very rich.
I could just have gone to boxing because I was boxing for a little bit as well and done the same thing.
But I was like, I really want to be the best.
Also, I just, I want, I never want a man to be able to handle me in any situation.
I want to be in.
Facts first.
Fastball.
Facts though.
Facts, though.
But I just feel like.
I'm training for jail just in case.
Yeah.
Trust me.
If you're my cellmate.
But like.
Happy Pride Month.
Anyway.
For me, I feel like to be the best fighter in the world, you have to be able to beat any style.
And that's why I put my ego aside.
And I was like, I'm going to learn how to grapple.
It's like to be a good criminal, learn to be a good lawyer.
You know what I mean?
So the first, I mean, fights in the UFC now.
Only one guy was able to take me down and keep me down.
And he's way class above me.
Everyone else can't.
Are you excited for tapping somebody out?
I'll tell you something after this.
Okay.
Okay.
So you got plans.
Bro, I was hanging out with Craig Jones.
Do you know Craig Jones?
Of course.
Dude, we love Craig.
We had Craig on here.
No way.
He teamed Jiu-Jitsu, man.
Come on, Rogue.
Alex, yeah, that's my nigga, Craig.
And Volk's trainer, who fucks ladyboys.
It's all like Joe.
You like a girl with hand strength.
Broad shoulders.
Oh, yeah.
Joe has been through some tough boys, though, for sure.
Love Joe.
Love you, Joe.
We was on Puerto Rico hanging out training.
Yeah, but yeah, I'm upskilling.
I'm upskilling.
And I love grappling.
People haven't seen too much of it yet.
Like the casuals haven't seen, but I thought you were long tap cost out.
When you had him on the floor knocked out.
Oh, I tapped twice, but you know.
I mean, even though it's not.
I think that's the greatest celebration, ghost fight celebration.
100%.
Second best is all this one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the first one.
That's by the way, you took your tweet seriously in the documentary.
This motherfucker means business.
I ain't a ghostwriter.
I live my raps, put it that way.
And Logan Paul fucked you up a little bit.
I saw that.
It's His Time To Showcase00:15:06
Does Logan have a chance?
That's funny.
Does Logan have a chance in MMA?
I think he's going to find the best.
He's athlete.
I'll tell you one thing.
When I grabbed him, because I think he's like, because he wrestled in high school.
I saw him wrestle with even Costa.
He was able to do duck hunters and kind of stuff.
He was able to wrestle and he's really good.
And I was like, fuck it, you're strong.
I could feel him straight away.
He's stronger.
Like, he's a beefy dude, but so am I.
Yeah.
Then also technique.
And also I have.
I'm so excited, bro.
He's on a carnivore diet.
You know what I'm saying?
Not supposed to respond to all of them.
I went back.
But he's a strong dude.
And I think, I think he's just going to, he's going to do it at some point, even just once.
I think he's going to do it just once, just for the spectacle.
He can box.
I taught him how to kick a little bit.
He'll work.
I think those guys, especially Jake, because when I was at the house, I said, knocked out Nate.
And Jake was just such a nice dude, like a big fan.
You said you were at the house, you saw him knock out Nate?
Nate Robinson.
Yeah.
He's fighting Nate.
That's right.
I forgot.
My bad.
Nah, Nate Robinson.
He almost broke in Vegas.
So talking to him at the house, I realized that night, like, oh, this guy's crazy.
He's going to do this shit.
Like, he really wants to box.
And look at him now.
Even at Puerto Rico, guys, just locked in.
He's just like, no, he takes it seriously.
Yeah, he wasn't like, you know, fucking around, nothing.
He didn't come to dinners.
He was at the house for a little bit.
But yeah, I think Logan will fight in the UFC at some point, just for fun.
Who would be a good matchup for Logan?
Right now, I can't even.
Great question.
I said CM Punk, but he's like, no, I'm just like, yo, come on.
I disrespect that Logan.
He's like, yeah.
I'm going to fight CM Punk.
I was like, fair, fair.
No, an active UFC dude.
That'd be a good question.
Wait, hold on.
You ready for some clickbait?
Probably not even know their name.
Let me give you clickbait.
Let me give you a clickbait, right?
You ready, right?
Drake is Duplessis.
Is that a good matchup for Logan?
Nah.
I'm saving that one.
I want that.
Oh, you want that one?
Okay, fair.
Tap it up, bro.
That was beautiful.
I'm going to talk to you.
That was a beautiful lobby.
Do you really want it?
No, I want it.
He comes to the greatest promos I've ever seen in history.
What did he say?
When he said, in full blonde hair, blue eyes, white face, and I'm the African.
If he said this, if he said, I'm the captain now.
He did the nut shit, bro.
Man.
You have to, listen, on a troll level.
Yeah.
I appreciate that.
You have to acknowledge 10 out of 10.
Bro, like, I just, okay, look at this.
You know what?
He's a white guy from South Africa.
Are you familiar with the things?
I'm a senior point.
Oh, man.
We were dying on that shit.
You know what ancestry in Mean.com is?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's for white people to be not racist.
Yeah.
Thank you.
So, this is how white people find out they're Native American.
Yeah, but this is what I'm saying.
I could do mine, and it'll tell you 100% I'm Nigerian.
Yeah.
Yoda Baboy, Ugustit, from Africa, the greatest continent on the planet.
Well, wow, well, well, look at your phone.
Look at your phone.
Bring your iPhone down.
China.
Fuck up.
China.
China.
You got a little cold.
You got a little cobbler.
Exactly.
A little bit.
I'll put some double D batteries in there.
Where does that come from?
Oh, fuck.
Fuck.
Damn it.
Damn.
Damn, man.
The diamonds on your pinky.
Oh, shit.
Exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
The drip.
You got a couple good things, okay?
But you do his assistremu.com and it'll tell you where he's really from.
Where is he from?
I don't know.
Where are all people from?
Oh!
To try doing one of those ones.
We're the captains now.
I will back that ass.
No, but like, I think it's French.
Duplicity is a French name.
I did my Googles.
Who's left to fight?
I mean, honestly, like, if I wanted to fight DPP, I will fight him.
I'll pray on this.
I will make this happen.
I will manifest this.
He's going to rock Rob or do something crazy in the first place.
Because he's fighting Rob.
Rob, I'm going to be there.
Whoever wins, I'm going to step in the cage with him.
You won't do a third one with Rob.
I have to.
If he wins, I will.
Respect to Rob.
Love Rob.
I'll tell you something after this.
Okay, fair enough.
Yeah.
I got to make it interesting for myself.
How much longer are you going to do this?
I said at the post-fight press conference, I was like, I think I got less than 20 fights left, but they're like, 20.
I mean, what?
I'm like.
Crazy number now, even.
I'm like, bro, that's light.
In China, when I lived in China for 10 months, it was kickboxing, granted, at a high level.
I fought 24 times.
24 times.
Yeah, but that's Chinese people.
That's like 12.
I fought Ukrainians as well.
I fought a lot of Eastern Europeans.
So they brought.
Okay.
They brought, because eventually, like I said, I was there to be a journeyman and they couldn't beat me.
See, if you can't beat them.
So you were a B-side.
You were there to look at it.
Yeah, I was there.
Yeah.
They brought me over to make their guys look good, but I kept on whooping their guys.
And they're like, hey, hey long.
And then that's how I got the name of the black dragon, Hey Long.
And then they had us with a fucking.
You got a black dragon to whatever you look like.
And then it makes sense.
Bro, shout out to China.
China, bro.
That's kind of fire.
I want to go back.
I do miss China.
I miss my time there.
I feel like it got me really ready for fame.
It got me really ready as a regular black guy in China.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
Kobe Barayanta.
Nah, legit.
That's what it was.
It was.
That's what he was.
I was like, no, that's like.
You're less racist with black people.
They would call you Kobe Bryant.
No, no, like they think, oh, Kobe Barayanta, basketball.
No, no, no, no.
Dabi Za.
Dabi Za.
What does that mean?
Kickboxing?
Fight, like boxing.
Oh, you got damn, bro.
Yeah.
They really appreciate my pronunciation because my language, Yodubai, is very tonal as well.
So I was passable.
If I got a Chinese girlfriend, I would have fucking aced that shit.
But, you know, I was just, I was outside.
What are the happy endings like in what are the happy endings like in China?
Did you experience that?
Are they happiest?
Are they happiest?
Hey, hey, hey.
Ash knows all about it.
Wait a minute.
I don't know what's happening.
Tell us what's happening.
Ash, tell us what's happening.
Get some alcohol and Ash so you can get missed.
Yeah, so nah, me and Diamond went to everybody.
Shut up the diamond, bro.
Hold on, I gotta piss really bad.
Anybody have to piss really bad?
I can whenever you.
Let's piss.
I'll keep sipping.
All right, we're gonna take a break real quick because while we have Israel at this sonya, the motherfucking UFC champion of the world, you gotta be aware of it.
Okay, so when is uh when is our boy Diamond fighting again?
Blood Diamond.
Yeah, we're like this is your boy.
You were in China with him.
And the Tours, man.
We've been around the world, fought different countries, been many places.
Yeah, had fun.
Yeah, different poppos.
Had some hot pots.
Yeah, full of vibes.
But kicked out of hotels together, you know, but they're not.
We call him Big Dick Diamond in China.
Hey, we're all brothers.
Gotta go into a mind sometimes.
You know what I'm saying?
That's an inside joke between me and him.
Like, me, him, Chance.
It's a long story.
How long?
Really?
No, but he's Sydney.
We're trying to put him on Sydney.
And I feel like the world needs to see what he can do.
You know, not just him.
There's a few of our guys that's like, he's a two-time king in the ring champion.
Yeah, he's a kickboxing background guy, beast.
I spy with the guy.
I know how good he is.
That's the thing.
He just, sometimes in this life, you get a deck of cards that's not in your favor, but you then get that one hand.
I feel like September, he just needs that hand to showcase his skills in the cage.
First fight in the UFC didn't go his way because shit happens.
That guy got him.
Second fight, he was doing well, but then the third round, the guy just held him.
Decides, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna win the round.
And they held him.
I just feel like it's his time to get someone who can showcase.
Put him against a striker.
If you really want some crazy shit, he'll, bro, he does this thing called a scorpion kick.
He calls it a drive-by.
He calls it a drive-by.
He'll be sparring you, and then you'll be right here.
Like, if we're Orthodox, Orthodox, so left foot in front of left foot.
Then he'll just step off to his right, and then he'll kick back.
Oh, wow.
And he caught me the first time when he caught me with him.
I was like, what the fuck?
What the fuck is that?
Yeah.
And it felt like, which one of y'all hit me, Chris Tucker?
Yeah.
At that moment, you know what I'm saying?
I'm telling you how you got dick slapped, bro.
I was like, punch me with your dick, diamond.
That guy's dead me in the face.
How dare you?
No, honestly, like, he's that guy.
He's that guy.
So that's, that's the weird thing.
Like, why wouldn't the UFC, why wouldn't the UFC build him up against other strikers while he's learning how to grapple?
And then by the time he gets there, they will.
No, they fed you to the fucking.
Exactly, straight away.
That's what they do.
Son, I feel like you didn't even get enough credit for being Brunson because after that, Brunson went on a win streak for like ages, yeah.
Five fights or something, something crazy.
Blonde Brunson, apparently, because he was blonde.
Yeah, that was the issue.
Yeah.
Yeah, it wasn't blonde when he fought me.
He didn't go Super Saiyan when he fought me.
Exactly.
So the tricky thing, I guess, right there is like, I like that the UFC feeds people, right?
Because they're like, okay, only the strongest survive, so you get the best.
But at the same time, there's certain people where I'm like, I like to.
Yeah, build them up.
And they've done that with certain people.
Example, Alex Pareta.
They did it with Alex Pareta.
With me, they built him up, gave him guys that could decently like...
They weren't putting him against total grapple.
Did they put any grapes?
None.
Zero.
The only guy was this Bruno guy that they put him against, but he's a striker.
He's a striker.
That motherfucker got a chin.
That motherfucker got a chin.
He got hit.
Big time.
Boom.
And it was in the apex.
So the thing I like about the apex?
You could hear it.
Bro.
Same with Far Island.
You got it when I was.
Yeah, when I was fighting Costa at Far Island, I remember just like, when you watch a bat, you can hear the impact, the thuds.
And then you can hear his corner screaming when I fucked him up.
Like, badly.
Like, a guy was like, ah, ah!
Yeah.
That was really bad.
That was bad, bro.
Yeah.
Do you like him a little bit, Costa?
He's funny.
He's kind of funny.
I don't follow him on Instagram on Twitter.
He's funny.
Twitter's crazy.
He just says the most random.
He called me.
I was like, yeah.
I wonder why.
No, I'm just no.
He said it.
He said it.
We're believing it no matter what.
We have to protect you now.
I'm protected.
Maybe it's because you knocked him out and then mimed fucking his ass.
Maybe he made him one.
Maybe.
Prison culture.
Prison rooms.
Or the strong survived.
Is there any guy you like so much you just wouldn't fight?
Yes.
That's a good question.
Hold up.
In middleweight.
Yeah.
If Kamaru came up.
Fuck no.
He can't do it.
Never.
Yeah.
Never.
Never.
That's my dog.
That's my brother.
It's more is bigger than fighting.
This is for, bro, forever.
The three kings, that era.
Yeah.
The three kings.
That era.
If we went to Nigeria or anywhere in Africa, Morocco, South Africa, bro, that era will never, ever be.
I don't want to say it's never, ever be replaced, but it's just something that's special in history, you know, and I'm proud.
I feel proud to be part of that.
You know what I mean?
So yeah, it's bigger than that.
Even someone said to me when Kamaru was about to fight Tyra Woodley to win the belt, I remember that, I don't know where I was, but they asked me on the podium.
I'm like, oh, does a part of you hope that Kamaru doesn't win so you could be the first African champion?
I was like, yuck.
It's like, what kind of mentality do you have to have that you think, like, I would want my boy to lose so I can be the first?
I'm like, no.
His win is my win.
That question comes from abundance.
Yeah, when you have abundance, you have to be able to get a lot of people.
But even like scarcity mindset, that's where that comes from.
But like, yeah, I would never.
No, that's not.
When you come from scarcity, the idea of abundance is incredible, right?
You're like, I want three African champions.
That's the most amazing.
When you come from abundance, the idea of scarcity is really exciting.
So that person who asked you it is rich.
Some rich journal.
Speaking of African champions, how do you feel about Francis not seeing the UFC, having moved on to his family?
So I feel like the story's not over.
Even like when this whole fucking thing with one championship came out, they're like, oh, we are withdrawing from the bidding.
But that was a play because Francis came to them and was honestly like, look, I got this deal.
Can you guys match this?
They couldn't match it.
So it's a safe face.
It's like they protected themselves.
But that was stupid.
And then when that happened, I saw the narrative, the streets was like, oh, he made a mistake.
Yeah, no one wants to say this and that.
But I'm like, bro, chill.
He signed with the PFL.
Give it time.
Give it time.
Let him do his thing.
Because the story's still being written.
Also, he's the guy that, look, before the UFC, how he got to Paris.
Have you heard that story?
Yeah.
It's crazy.
He's not a guy that gives him a pause.
He told us.
Yeah.
Yeah, we had him on the pod when we were in Miami.
He called in.
He zoomed in.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
Have I seen this?
Maybe.
But yeah, he's the man.
Yeah, he is.
So he's not a guy that gives up easily.
He's not a guy that just like faults, you know?
Give it time.
Give it time.
I think he's making the right call.
PFL.
Also, what I liked is even like bringing up the fighter he's fighting.
They're going to get paid at least a minute.
Bro, incredible.
And then what that does is like guys who want to fight, they're like, if I fight faster, that's a money fight for me.
Yeah.
You know?
And yeah, give it time.
Things are happening, but give it time.
The story will unfold.
Yeah.
It'd be really cool to see him come out victorious.
Yeah.
I think I'm champion.
I think he's going to get it done.
Yeah.
I think also he's going to come back to the UFC.
That's the thing that's quite interesting.
No, he will.
He will.
I think just this is business.
This is business.
And is there a world where the three kings go to the PSF?
I didn't want to ask if we can add to that VD2, but yeah.
I think I'm going to be in the UFC.
Look, for me, as a fan, it's not everybody, me.
I've been a fan of the UFC for so long.
I think this is where my career is going to.
That's it.
I'm going to do no fucking boxing after this, nothing like that, regardless of what you say about Canelo.
I know your fucking mustache is twinged.
But regardless, shut the fuck up.
We got to do one.
We got to do one.
I don't want to.
It's limited.
It's limited.
It's a limited time.
I'm trying to think who you would fight.
50 people in front of me will see.
I've never seen that yet, man.
Making It Up To The UFC00:05:01
Who's big enough?
There's no one big enough for you yet.
Dang Canela.
That's what I'm saying.
Nah, but no, boxing needs a renaissance.
If boxing has a renaissance.
And my way class as well is just like, nah.
No.
No.
185.
I mean, like.
No, he doesn't have.
There's no money in it.
That's the thing.
That's the only problem.
If there was some money, if there was an absolute...
At least let me kick him.
No, at least.
Yeah, no, no.
Because that's too easy.
Yeah, yo, beat me.
Okay, how about this?
They can box, I can kick.
I won't throw any punches.
Just set up.
But what we could do is one round.
What'd they do with Demetrius Johnson and Rod Ted?
Oh, no, that's bad.
That's a bad idea.
If they want to box in the first round and then they want to do kickboxing in the second round, it's a bad idea.
But it's awesome also.
I do well for myself.
I do well for myself.
I'm more worried about the guys coming up because I'm such a big fan of the UFC, regardless of what people might think or have their opinions about the company.
Because look, this is business.
It's cutthroat.
It's Vegas.
It's the fucking devil's asshole.
But I want people who fight in the UFC, even when they come into the UFC.
I want it to be like you're being drafted into the NFL.
I don't want a guy who's fighting in the league, because I have teammates who just like Diamond is going to the UFC.
He's doing well for himself, but he also has businesses on the sideball.
Sometimes there's other, you have to do a few PTs here and there.
I don't want that for a guy who has the UFC banner on their chest.
I want it to be a prestigious thing where it's like.
PTs is personal training.
Yeah, personal training.
Yeah, my bad.
It's prestigious to be in the UFC.
Like, yo, you're a UFC fighter.
I want them to be able to like.
You want it to be once you're in the UFC, that's the only job you have.
Thank you.
That's what I want.
So I think, and I really want this to be my, when I'm done with the UFC, I'm done with fighting.
I move on to other things.
What if the UFC had a different division in the same way that like baseball has different divisions?
Where it's like, here's UFC.
In America, they have like AAA, double A, single A.
So like.
You lost me.
Basically, basically, the major leagues, everybody's making crazy money.
In the NBA, they have the G League, but it's like everybody's making crazy money in the majors.
And then they have a subdivision where...
I mean, oh, no, I'm asking.
No, that's not accurate because they don't make money.
No, I'm asking.
No, they had the G League, where the guys who are like trying to make it into the NBA go.
No, my bad.
Sorry.
No, I'm asking.
It's a question.
I'm curious.
I can ask questions.
I know, I know.
I know.
He's not from this country.
I know.
He's a sports.
He's a foreigner.
He's a foreigner.
I'm just a new year.
We saw you take a shot in the documentary.
You don't know basketball.
Yeah.
Even the Chinese people were like, not Kobe Bryant.
Not Kobe Bryant.
Not Kobe.
Look at Drake called Chance once.
I sent Drake Chance my boy shooting on the show.
He calls it, oh, it's a struggle jumper.
That was a struggle jump.
I'm not quitting my day job.
This is what I love about the documentary.
They left in the miss.
You could have edited out the miss.
Gotta show you.
Gotta show your lows.
Exactly.
Gotta show them all.
Anyway, like, what if the UFC goes, okay, here's our subdivision?
And you can still have them on the major UFC fights.
You can have them on the undercard.
You can have whatever.
And then these are the top fighters.
Then all these people that are part of the Apple echelon are making so much money.
And that's the NFL.
That's contender series.
Yeah.
Like, kind of.
But they're all signed to the UFC.
If it's G-League and then NBA, when people in the G-League aren't making enough money or are making like NBA money, you're not upset because you're like, oh, this is the G-League.
You have to make it up to the UFC.
They're pay-per-view nights.
You can watch a few of the earlier fights on ESPN.
Yeah.
And then you have to go to the next one.
It's like the way they feed you the pay-per-views and Tyson.
You feel like, oh, I've got to do this.
You haven't made it to pay-per-view yet.
Yeah.
So you're right there.
I get that.
But I think the average person is going, all these people are signed to the UFC.
And what you were just saying is you want the UFC to be NFL.
So I think the way to do that is sign all the same guys, but create a subdivision.
And then just be like, this is the UFC Development League or the UFC G or whatever the fuck.
Okay.
It was.
And then it's just like, you know.
So it's like, yeah, you're going to make 50 grand a fight or 30 grand a fight, but you're doing that for the opportunity to make millions a fight.
Even fuck billions.
Even just 50 grand a fight, even or 30 grand for your UFC debut entry level.
30 grand.
Think about it.
You do that three times a year.
Also, they pay for all your corners in hotels, so you don't have to follow.
That's different.
Yeah, no, no, no, no.
Bro, they just merged with WA Me.
It's a $21.4 billion company.
Yeah.
Like, come on.
You got money.
Hang on, money.
What are they getting now?
Huh?
What are people getting now?
Because I don't know.
And I'm sure a lot of people are doing it.
Everyone's different.
My UFC debut, I made six figures and I made a 50K bonus.
So I was blessed because I did my work before I got in the UFC.
I cultivated, I found my socials.
I did my fights.
Yeah, you were coveted.
Yeah, I was coveted, yeah.
There's a difference between a guy who like there comes in.
Like Charles Oliveira's first fight was probably for like a stick of corn.
Pulling Up With LeBron James00:04:03
You know what I'm saying?
But he's become the champion.
No, but with the mayonnaise and the chocolate cheese and the butter and everything.
Exactly.
But now, you know what I mean?
But he was also, he became the champion.
Fight of the night, Carnitas.
That's crazy.
You get protein.
Yeah, but that's what I mean.
I want it to be like, I honestly mean that.
And I'm just a fan, man.
I'm just a fan.
Like, it's crazy for me even doing this shit because I remember watching the UFC back in the day.
I used to go to Blockbuster or your Video Easy.
Do you guys have that?
No.
No, back in the day.
Blockbuster.
Yeah, we used to get the old UFC fights?
No, the DVDs.
I'd watch them.
Silver, Dan Henderson, Rampage Jackson, Granny Guitar.
Such a fan.
So for me to even be in this position now doing this shit, it's a blessing.
And I really feel like it's the best sport in the world.
I really feel like it's the best spectrum.
Bro, I know this shit because, nigga, when a fighter walks into a room, it's different.
Bro, I know I never play on this.
Look, Mike Tyson, even amongst fighters, when Mike Tyson walks through the UFCPR, everyone's like, Mike, and I even Dan Hooker, who doesn't fan over no one, he tries to get a photo.
Like, I know the feeling because when a fighter walks, and I walk, I hate, I'm not name-dropping, but okay, so I went to OVOFS, right?
At the party, at the estate, the embassy.
All these, I don't follow basketball, so there's all these big-time basketball players that was there.
That was the place I met LeBron, and I saw Draymond in the corner on his seat.
But I had my own section with my boys.
But then I was talking to all these other basketball players afterwards.
Well, I noticed the difference.
And they're so taller than me, but it's different when the fighters in the thing.
Because look, regardless, at the end of the day, I can kick your ass.
And, but fuck it.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
You know what I'm saying?
If I wanted to.
If you want, but you want to.
If I wanted to.
Shout out to what month are we in?
Pride month.
Yeah, yeah.
Shout out to Pride Month for the outside.
Pride.
All love, all love.
Ash taking a big goal.
Big gold for Jack Daniels.
This is our Pride Month.
Oh, shit.
Leave it, Miles.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a different energy when you walk in.
There's a different respect.
That's a bad man right there.
Exactly.
LeBron looking at you like he knows you can fuck him up.
Who?
LeBron.
That's different.
LeBron was at the house.
It was only when there's certain people when they move around, everyone just kind of like, also all the clout trousers outside.
Bro, no, they ship them in.
Because there was one of these kids, I think, what's his name?
White Keller Cyrus.
He's like, yo, Drake bringing like 400 bitches to the house.
I was like, oh, word.
I don't know who curates all this stuff.
Sure, we're talking about this.
Bro, 400, bro?
Know there's women at Drake's house.
I don't know if it's like Sparta.
No, no, no, that's crazy.
There's bitches at the OVO party.
I think it's like they all park at this venue.
Yeah.
And then they get shit.
What is the venue?
Is it like a blood diamond jacket?
They just put a light on top of blood diamonds jackets.
But like, the part that's like, they get, I don't know who curates it.
It's a good system.
They meet at like a parking lot.
They park there.
And then again, the buses and the buses drives to the estate or the embassy.
Exactly.
You can't let anyone expansion used to do that.
Same boss and I'm like, everybody meets to this thing and then we'll take it.
And then they park VIP.
So we pulled up to the house, right?
And then we're getting clearance.
And while we're in our sprinter, I see this van pull up to the house.
And it was like, you know, those clown cars when like clowns just like a clown.
So when Homeboy was moving around the party, you could see like just like, it's him and LeBron at the house that was like that.
But LeBron was cool because he didn't have to say what's up, but he saw me and he's just like, yo, pulled up and we talked for like a minute.
I was fired.
Well, it was cool.
And it was just like, I just, I don't follow basketball, but I follow greatness.
Some people are following.
Following Greatness Not Basketball00:06:53
I'm just like, yo, you're great at what you do.
So talking to him was, yeah, it was a cool moment.
I think the reason why it's so easy to give it up for a fighter is because there's no ego involved for a not fighter.
How so?
I know you could fuck me up.
So I could just say you're great.
But for a basketball player to basketball player, it's like, I'll bust your ass one-on-one.
I'll fuck you up.
There's still like a little bit for an actor, an actor, comedian, comedian, musician, musician.
Fighter-fighter as well.
Like fighter hotels.
I've been, yeah, I know them.
You see how fight or fighter goes.
It's like almost a fight every single time.
Sometimes it breaks out like that.
But yeah, but a difference is even me, I can't wait to go to SP's.
I really, Espes, when is the when are they bringing out the me and Alex should be on their nominations?
Me and Alex, best fighter, fighter of the year.
Yeah, we should be on there.
Oh, yeah.
Because Alex don't do what he does in Vegas, win.
Then we should go to the Espies that next week, dap her up, and I bet you, same thing, walk the red carpet.
I just know when we pull up, it's just like, oh, there's them boys.
There's them boys.
You got to host that shit, low-key.
Yeah, all right.
Why not?
Oh, no, no, no, no.
Host it.
No, no, no.
Get a little bit of a drink.
Marlowe Guest jokes off.
Marlowe Guest.
Marlowe Guest posting that.
This should be good.
No, no, no.
I mean this for real.
This should be good.
Hold on.
Hold on.
You guys, you got to check my.
I'm rapping this year.
Hold on, hold on.
Hold on.
Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
Hold on.
Wait.
Wait, bro.
I won't read it out loud.
Let me just.
Let me find a good one.
Hold on.
Have you said Ash any?
Has he said them out loud?
No, So, you know what?
You do this as well for jokes, I'm sure you just.
All the time.
Because there's certain times I'll have an idea, and I think I'll remember that, but then it's like a bubble.
Yep.
Gone.
And you're like, what the fuck was that?
What was that?
And it's like, I'm like, oh, it was so good at the moment.
And it's like gone.
So now I write things down.
Ideas, bars, things.
So let me find the cool one.
I don't choose that.
But Kobe did it.
Yeah.
And do we remember Kobe's?
Come on, Cars.
Kobe.
Remember what Shaq did?
Remember what Ives?
Everybody wants to.
Nobody looks back at this.
I'm a guy.
What else is fire?
Hold on.
I think it's like a ride of passage.
I gotta rap.
I gotta rap.
I can throw.
This is a rider.
That was awesome.
Best thing I could say.
Let him be great.
I can say that.
Let's sing be great.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Just saying it.
Niggas gotta sing.
You gotta get Obama to do it with you, bro.
You gotta get 16 from Obama, bro.
For bro.
Because he's going through what you went through, which is like, I've achieved the pinnacle of my profession.
And when you're black and you do that, you go, I need to drop an ass.
I know that.
Okay, the balls are hard, but let's just see.
Let's just see.
Come on.
We're down right there.
I don't put it in the rhythm yet, but.
Do it.
These are just ideas.
We work shopping.
We work shopping.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
We're work shopping.
Bring storming.
It's a fun state.
That's a dumb one.
That's a sus cheat.
You my son, son.
If I didn't come, you would have never begun.
Damn.
Oh, shit.
Oh, do it again.
Do it again.
Say it again.
You're my son.
Hold on, hold on.
You my son, son.
If I didn't come, you would have never begun.
Oh, my God, bro.
Testify.
Bro, fat.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Hey, here's the thing.
One more.
Hit him.
One more.
You would have never begun.
Hit the verse, you would have never begun.
That's a spoken word.
Spoken word.
No, you got it.
There you go.
You can body that.
Hey, no, to his point, we don't remember Kobe's coaches.
Even if they're not good, nobody cares.
Shaq, no, you still live.
It gets the people ghosts.
Come on, come on, come on.
What you got?
What you got?
No, it don't make no sense.
Nah, read it out loud.
It's ideas.
Exactly.
It's just ideas.
Hey, Izzy, I'm far away, dog.
Read it out loud.
Just say it out loud.
Sorry, no.
It don't make sense, but it's provocative.
Your heart's a different one.
I love you.
I love you.
I love you too.
I look up to you.
Yes.
Hit us with a different one.
You realize we're creating his origin story right now.
I tell you, it started exactly.
The scene has been planted in his head.
He's going to retire from MMA.
And I think it's some whole verse and I just roast him.
I love it.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Wait, this find a good one.
Okay, okay, okay.
A cross-eyed bitch double-cross me.
That shit started fire.
I ain't gonna lie.
That's just what I fired.
A cross-eyed bitch double cross me.
I make her.
I do the X like she crossed.
All right, it's flamed out at that.
But the first, the first-eyed bitch, a cross-eyed bitch.
But it's something here.
It's like you doing the, you ain't do your shows, like your spots.
Also, I just, I'm imagining this woman, bro.
It's like you, you the champ.
You gave her.
He knows who it is.
Wait.
Hey, the cross-eyed bitch.
Wait, hold on.
Hold on, Jeff.
Bring up the table.
That's just it.
Calm down.
Baby, calm down.
Hold on, hold on.
We all got one lazy-eyed bitch that.
Yeah, well, with this one.
Bro, you got some of these you got to bring out the press conference.
Some of these you got.
Now, this is a press conference, bro.
Not like that.
Bro, you said that.
It's just bars.
Bro, you so far below me, you should be belowing me.
Oh, that's good for a press conference.
Oh, let's pour it out for them.
Come on, bro.
Let's pour it out for them.
Walahi.
Wow, that's right.
Walahi.
Walahi, hug, baby.
That's why, because I forget.
So when you written it to me, I'm like, ooh.
Send me some pause.
I'm sorry.
Find another one.
Find another one more.
Give him one more fire.
I was hating, dog.
It be your own people.
It be your own people.
I'm trying to save them.
This is like Safari rabbit breakfast club, man.
That one.
That's not it.
All right, listen.
Okay, I'm ready.
I'm lying.
That's why I'm telling you.
Don't do this.
You're great at rapping.
This is going to do it.
Go, go hard.
I'm going to do it.
I'm rapping this year.
I'm rapping this year.
I'm by it.
I'm popping.
You already know.
I'm going to be there.
You got a song for me, though.
I love songs.
I love ballads.
Unlock Your Confidence Today00:03:07
What do you got?
Okay.
You're my love interest.
Yo, let's do it.
Happy Jesus.
Let's have Drake ghostwriting for you.
Nah, he's too big.
More than Drake's ghostwriter.
Go ahead.
Hater, bro.
This guy sucks.
I can't take the joke.
It's right there.
I can't take the joke right there.
We're going to Toronto, so you better watch out.
Can you write any better bars?
This is fantastic, bro.
This is fantastic, bro.
I know you know.
I know you know, but trust me, I got bars.
I got bars.
But maybe you can ghostwriter.
This slide is actually fun.
This is fun.
Listen, this is funny.
Listen, I don't have time to date.
I only got time to fuck.
It's true.
That's right.
Wait, I'm not done yet.
I don't have time to date.
I only got time to fuck.
Because I come quick.
That's bars.
That's bars, bro.
That's bars.
I want to just raise it.
That was an excuse.
What the hell?
Sometimes bars is an excuse.
I do.
I don't got time.
That's why.
And be like that sometimes.
Yeah, you fucking for four minutes, bro.
What are you doing?
What's the training for?
For long, bro.
What's the point in fucking for long?
Yeah.
It's like cardio.
I already trained today.
Exactly.
And when you came by the minute, shout out to Joe.
Shout out to Joe.
Uncle Joe, we love you, Uncle Joe.
You came by the minute.
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You have another screen in tonight?
No, no, no, no.
Oh, there is, but I want to go watch what's the name.
Extraction 2.
Oh, shout out to Hemsworth.
Hemsworth, Chris.
Yo, they made it seem like his memory was going, bro.
What?
Did you hear about that?
Got My Bars Ready Right Now00:15:09
What do you mean?
Like, he was on some show where he was like, I got the gene for Alzheimer's.
And then the media caught on to it and they thought that he was already Al.
Really?
Oh, P. I'm like, let him cook.
I love you, bro.
Let him cook.
He ain't going to go write some bars right now, act like he's nice.
He thinks he's good at rap.
I'm going to come back with a sweet shit rap, Al.
So bad.
Al trash and most black things.
Black things are being honest.
What you got?
Black and go pee, son.
I haven't said this to your face in the floor.
No, you can't rap, Al.
Oh, you can't even see that shit.
That's a fight word.
That's fighting words.
That's fighting words.
You can't even go pee because you're going to peek on the cook.
I fucked up.
You can't rap.
You can't dance.
That's not that.
You can't rap, though.
Your feet trash.
Dance a little.
Basketball.
Basketball.
What is Feet?
I have to do it, rapping.
You play good defense.
You play good defense, which is the whitest part of the OG.
The whitest part of basketball, he's really good.
Play defense and rebound.
He does.
The spot up shooter is the whitest part of NBA.
No, no.
Not anymore.
No, not anymore.
Black people.
Black people got really good as spots.
Joe Dickens.
He got really good as spots.
All them tripods.
Jokic.
Jokic.
I see him on the gram.
Like, and I don't follow basketball, but I see who's training right now.
I know he's doing big things.
Yo, he's all right.
He's doing all right in the finals, bro.
But he's not white, white.
Ah, Eastern European.
We don't count them, bro.
They're the OGs.
Nah, that's what I'm saying.
So they are the OGs, but we try to act like they're not.
That's off-white.
That's off-white.
They act like they're off-white.
They're off-white.
White people are weird like that.
Why?
You don't like count the OGs?
Is this kind of like the way black Americans don't count Africans?
Yes.
I don't like that.
I don't like the whole.
So who did it recently?
So-and-said something.
I don't like that.
Don't Africans be like, we not like y'all too.
But no, no, no, no.
That's some people.
That's not the majority.
That's not the majority.
But Africans do act bougie.
It might be an older thing.
It might be a big thing.
So it's not the majority.
Like now, the younger generation, they're all welcoming.
Because the world's a whole melting pot now.
You know what I mean?
The internet done made that happen.
It happens.
That's how it is.
I remember when I was going to college, bro, the way that people dress in New York was so different than the way that people dress in California.
Like, I could bring some shit to California and they never saw it in their life.
Like Tim's?
Bro, literally.
They'd be like, wait, do you have a job?
Like, they couldn't.
What's your construction?
Yeah, they couldn't fathom.
And now, no matter where we go, even when we go do shows, everybody dresses the same.
Everybody.
You went to go to a show and everyone got that haircut.
Bro, it's going to happen.
It's going to be a scary show, bro.
It's going to be scary.
I like it.
It might be a little scary.
I thought your boy had it.
Yeah, no.
I call it a jump fade.
The jump fade, your boy, what was his name?
I met him last night.
TGT.
TG and OD.
O-G.
Ugo.
Ugo.
That's my stylist.
Ugo Mozzie.
He, bro, I like to flex him.
He's worked with everyone.
They pulled up.
No, he's worked with everyone.
Beyonce.
But they pulled up.
Like, letting everybody know that they're.
Yeah, they're outside.
They're the guys.
They're the guys.
So he pulled me up with a suit last night.
And even the after.
I'll wear it tonight.
You see me tonight?
No, you know, I'm that guy.
Like, they ain't seen it yet.
No, everyone's seen my outfit yet.
So I'll rock it twice.
I went to the boxing.
Bro.
Bro, if I paid $5,000 for a coat, I'm wearing it $5,000.
Not enough people.
If I would wear that once and just throw it away, I'm going to rock that shit again and again and again.
Thank you.
Yeah, baby.
I'm my father's son.
Yeah, that's the most Nigerian way to rock, too.
One of the best parts of the documentary, I don't give a fuck I'm giving this away, is when his parents are given the breakdown of the fighters, bro.
Yeah, oh, yeah, this was great.
His mom just goes on like she's right, though.
Bro, she goes, his strike, what did she say?
His striking is not that precise.
He's supposed to be like, okay, I'll take some chances now.
No, no, no.
No, trust me.
My dad and my mom, they watch every UFC fight card now, and they'll watch every middleweight, even if they're not ranked on that fight.
And just suss them out for me.
So when I have an opponent, those are big ones.
Excuse me.
When I have an opponent.
What'd that taste like, bro?
Smashburgers.
Those are good, bro.
Those are so good.
Oh, I thought that was a double entendre from what happened last night.
Come on, Al!
Smash, no burgers left.
Allegedly.
All the legends.
This is a legend.
We should call the whole podcast.
It's a hologram.
Yeah, we just making fun of what podcast is.
That is AI.
It isn't real.
Al can't rap.
Al can't rap for shit.
Yo, you don't got one bar, sir.
You don't got one bar.
You got some bar bars.
Give us one bar.
Give us one bar.
I got my bars ready right now.
That's white as fuck.
Nah, nah, nah.
That's not easy, bro.
Go, Al.
Go now.
Al.
Go rap.
Stop.
Go freestyle.
Yo, I got a freestyle.
How you passing off to the Indian, bro?
All right, we'll do some hopscotch at least or something like that.
Let's do some double dutch or something.
You got to do something.
If we cheat, if we're tuning in, he pulled the brakes real quick.
Hey, wait.
Bring it to a six.
If we're clapping and stopping and saying your name, you either got to rap or you got a double dutch.
That's facts, bro.
My name's Alex Media in the place to be.
Let's go.
Okay.
Studio where to see Izzy.
Oh, boys.
I'm critical.
I ain't want to be doing that.
Jewish, bro.
Thank you guys so much for watching.
They don't rap.
They sign y'all after you rap.
That's his job.
Okay.
Dub got bars.
See a dub got rap?
Dub got bars.
Please, thank you.
Thank you.
Okay.
Oh, God.
Shut you down.
Go on, Dub.
Let's go.
Dub, go.
That was fine.
That was freestyle, though.
What about C Dawn?
My man, let's go.
Yeah.
Okay, Al, do you have one bar at least?
I don't got bars, bro.
Yo, Mark hasn't spoken for the last 10 minutes because he's been calculating.
He's been waiting for us to ask him.
He's been waiting for us to ask him to take it apart.
Hey, hey, Mark, do you have any rhymes?
What rhymes with Costa?
What rhymes are Costa, bro?
I don't even know.
Something about both spaghetti.
Something like that.
All right, beat.
You got it?
You got it?
Oh, come on.
Here we go.
All right, Mark.
Rap.
No beat, no beep, but no beat.
Acapella.
Rap battle.
Acapella.
Rap battle.
All right, let's go.
All right, go, go, go.
Yo, if you want this, I'll fuck you up like Pohoton.
Oh!
Want to get in the ring?
I'll make you my hologan.
Oh, okay.
It kind of raps.
If you put it with a little bit of slow guy, if you put it with an accent, I might rap.
Keep going, though, because we need to forget about that one.
If you want to get it, I'll fuck you like Costa.
I'm going to smoke on that pack like I'm Rasta.
Okay.
Okay, thunder cut.
Thunderclass.
Thunder up.
Start at the second one.
Yeah, bro.
You needed pressure, bro.
You need the pressure.
Without the pressure, it was S. What the fuck was Hologon?
Give me 10 minutes of not talking.
You was bringing too much attention to me, Joe.
Save it.
Save it.
No, but like, he popped his in for the next one.
I'm rapping this year.
Let me get a even if it sucks.
I don't care.
I'm not trying to make money off it.
I just want to express.
I really, I feel like I've got something.
It's not.
No.
Put it down.
These are Zen's.
What are Zims?
You never had a Zen?
Because look, because look.
I thought it was gone.
Uh-oh.
No, this is bad.
You shouldn't have that.
Hey, leave me alone.
It's legal.
It's legal.
Yeah.
I'm curious.
Let me see.
Nicotine pouch.
Yeah.
I don't do nicotine.
Me neither.
Well, you know what?
I don't.
You know what I'm saying?
I only smoke when I'm drunk.
I only vape when I'm drunk.
It's because of bitches.
All these bitches vape.
That's what I mean.
They do, right?
So they need to suck on something.
Let me just get up.
It's better than cigarettes.
It's better than cigarettes.
I'm good.
Because I know nicotine is good for you.
Chill, chill, chill, chill.
Baby, calm down.
Come down.
Amen.
Nah, don't do it.
Lockdown.
And lockdown.
Oh, shit.
She'll like find out.
That kid's cool.
No, remote.
No, remove.
Honestly, like the first.
Disgusting.
What was it up?
Hold on.
You didn't see nothing.
I saw that.
Say the bars.
Say the bars.
If you can't say the bars, it can't happen.
Miles.
Run the reef.
Testing over.
No, no, no.
Testing rules.
What's worse?
No, no.
He don't know what I did.
He don't even know what I did.
No, no, no, no.
He doesn't need to know what I did.
What's worse is that he put it back in the past.
You do know.
You do know.
You don't even know.
Hold on.
Yes, exactly.
You do know.
I didn't think you knew, but you do know.
I was like, nah, suspects.
I think my lips went away.
So what does that get under my lips?
I think my lips went away.
He never had lips like he never had rhythm.
That's what it is.
He was in his best outfit today.
I was in his best outfit today.
Come on.
I don't know.
I don't know why he's shooting today.
Okay, Mark.
That was crazy.
We're going deep.
Come on.
Shout out to the list of the broken.
Are you zinning?
Are you Zenning?
Yo, we got to Zen right now.
Come on, baby.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
What's that happening?
Hold on, show the Timmy's logo on that.
Mark, what's your thing?
He's about to bless me right now, bro.
No, I just realized because I didn't even know you were a comedian.
Find me.
I'll be finding you.
Finally, right?
Find you.
Let me find you.
Okay.
I like Mark Gaganon.
Why you can throw a diss in there, bro?
I ain't got it alright.
What did I say?
What?
I'm just.
No, you don't want to know.
They call me Mark Gaganon.
Because all these bitches on my dick and they gagging on.
You know what I'm saying?
I feel that.
I fuck with that.
Hey, come on, guys.
Come on, man.
Really?
You don't even want me to win.
Y'all that want me to win?
Y'all that want your friends.
The greatest African champ.
Let's go.
Honestly, it's the best support you can.
Yo, bro, honestly.
Yo, have you seen Book of Mormon?
Book of Mormon is crazy.
That strick is a story.
Hold on.
My boyfriend, South Africa, they want to fight us.
You see the lights.
We know Africa.
Oh, bro, that's tricky.
I swear I'm watching this.
Wow.
That's that nigga right there.
You broke Book of Mormon.
This story is great.
Oh, my God.
That shit was done.
It's the two niggas from South Park, right?
So that's it.
So Traystone and Matt Parker.
I love this.
This is my favorite thing about that play.
Is that everybody watching that play that has the most offensive humor on the planet?
Yeah.
And nobody gets offended.
I know.
I wasn't offended at all because it's just hilarious.
That's what made me go, okay.
Everyone gets jokes.
Everyone can say jokes.
Amen to that.
Bro, I got.
But it's hilarious.
They're great.
I got jokes.
Hold up.
Let's go.
Let me go.
Where are you at now?
I might be able to support this.
Where are you at now?
Why not rap?
Yeah.
No.
That's right.
Trump won't bother.
Come on.
Hold on.
Come on.
Okay, hold up.
Hold on, hold on.
You want to beat?
No, rap.
Joke, hold up.
Here we go.
Here we go.
I'm here.
Wait, let me come out.
Coming to the stage.
Israel.
I death, Sonya.
Yeah.
Sonny's adorable.
Let me joke, bro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's go.
You guys watch the new Jeffrey Dharma?
Yeah.
I heard he was doing an interview.
He said it was the hardest role he ever played.
He had to play in his life.
Really hard to play a gay guy.
Easy, prize.
Happy Pride Mother!
Pride!
Pride!
That was good!
That's good, Mr. Act.
I was gonna go, whoa, whoa!
Market!
Market!
Mark!
Market!
And 260, it'd be real hot.
Market!
Market!
It wouldn't be funny, right?
Exactly.
It would be funny.
I have a career.
I have a movie out now.
I can't be out there saying all that kind of shit.
Yeah, yeah.
Flex on these broke motherfuckers, bro.
I was trying to flex.
Flex on them.
I got a movie out.
Damn, I literally just be honest.
I was just.
We were in a movie theater.
No big deal, bro.
That's what it is.
Try back up film festival.
No big deal.
Try back up film festival.
Sold out, Nero.
Bitches waiting outside.
They're trying to get London.
Paramount.
Oh, yeah.
824.
Yeah, man.
Neon.
824 don't miss, dog.
They don't miss.
And they were excited outside.
That's all I have to say.
They just sent an Asian to woo you.
That was her name?
Her name was Woo Yoo.
Woo Yu.
Woo.
I'm going to woo you.
To woo you.
That's a joke.
Write that down.
Write it down.
That's a bar.
That's a bar.
So you got to wrap in Chinese, bro.
Everything rhymes.
Yes.
Listen, guys.
Well, hey, sure.
Come on.
Oh, yo, be someone.
I got some more.
Ben, I forgot.
Are we going in the notes, bro?
Because hold on, hold on.
Yo, hold on.
Professional, calm down.
No, no, no, not jokes, not jokes.
Yo, go in your notes and bust out something that you wouldn't say.
Go in your Twitter drafts.
Twitter drafts.
Let me see.
Drafts?
Yo, go in the drafts.
I just like those fly.
I wonder if I have drafts on Twitter.
Oh, I got drafts for days.
God forbid someone get on my Twitter.
Oh, God.
My group chats.
God forbid.
The shit would be insane.
Yo, I just want to know what you say to Ash, bro.
I want to know what Ash says.
On your back and wet up.
Bro, have we told this story already?
Already.
You know the vibe.
But Ash is an almost married man.
He has a child.
Ash Is An Almost Married Man00:15:12
But back in the day, on your back and wet up.
Oh, bro.
Yeah, bro.
Bro.
You taught me.
Shout out to my boyfriend.
Ash used to tell me he goes, there's a thing with Australian women because of the equator.
He was like, for whatever reason, living south of the equator, he goes, women won't get wet unless you demand them to.
Yeah.
And he was saying, on your back and wet up.
Yeah, yeah.
But I obviously never tried that.
Is that what that is, bro?
Yeah, they squirt the opposite direction.
I thought that's what it was, bro.
I thought it went the other way.
Swirly.
Ash, they just go, no.
No.
Leave me alone.
We had a good night in perf, Ash.
Yeah.
I like the picture.
It was cool.
We need a good party night in Oz.
Go come to Sydney.
No, no, no.
We need a good party night in Sydney.
No.
New Zealand, bro.
Can we go wild in New Zealand or is it all nature?
I'm not trying to hunt deer.
I want to see some hot nights, bro.
Hey, that's a callback for the real ones.
They know.
They know the back of the day.
It's still like that out there, but, but You can sell out.
You sell out.
We need to do all of that.
No, no, look at me.
You would sell out in Australia.
You sell out in Auckland.
We need to go.
Bring the whole gang.
We'll do a pod.
You train.
Oh, we'll.
Will you do a minute of stand-up if we do it?
No, no.
We'll work with you on it.
Justin.
We'll work with you on it.
We'll work with you on it.
30 seconds.
One one-liner joke.
Now we'll work together.
We'll work together.
Oh, maybe.
If they work with you, do it.
Maybe.
We'll make sure it's right.
Yeah.
See, that was an honestly great joke.
It took me a second because I'm done.
I still want to say that.
That's a great joke.
Bro, Market!
I bet you can say that shit on the side.
You know what it is?
I feel like.
You was with the boys.
That's what you're doing right now.
We just took the boys.
You think we do it, Carrie?
When a kid.
I remember that.
That's a deep coverage.
That never happened.
That never happened.
I wasn't there.
It never happened.
I wasn't there.
Bro, it was a hard ground.
I remember telling Ash, I remember telling Ash, I'm like, yo, Ash, I'm going home.
You good?
And he was just like, we're good, mate.
I promise.
I'm not even going to be like, hey, was this in the bathroom?
No, he's never in the bathroom.
Nothing happened in the bathroom.
We never went to a single bathroom.
We ain't talking about bathrooms.
What bathroom?
There's no bathroom.
In bars?
Live in New York?
Ash.
Look at Miles knowing he's going to be up till five in the morning.
Knowing Miles is not going to sleep.
I roll some Zen, Miles.
You better pack a Zen.
You will be editing all night.
He's so unhappy.
Who'd you heard?
We heard.
We heard.
Not you.
Not in Miami.
Definitely not.
I heard.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a wonderful thing.
Yeah.
That you did it.
That's what we've been saying about a lot of shit.
You doing Kanye lyrics now?
I like that shit, bro.
That's fire.
God.
Oh, man.
The greatest.
We're outside.
We gotta be outside.
We're still good.
We're outdoors.
Bro, this is fucking awesome.
No, no, no, no, life, bro, life is crazy.
Life is life.
Life is crazy.
Life is lifing, man.
Life is crazy.
Yeah.
It's one of those.
If we go back four years, five years, when you came in.
Put us crazy when I put the black.
If you remember, the ones who know.
That was 2019.
Dude, like then.
First one of it came in 2018, I think.
Yeah, that was the first time.
Like, came back with the belt.
Yep.
Bro, I just did the masculine one.
Like, literally.
And Al just came back from Sweden, I think.
That's right.
Nigga was arrested.
Yes.
Bro.
How many slopes you dropped?
He got his nails painted now, so you know.
No, you did come back with Sweden with your nails painted, bro.
That was very peculiar.
Son, you think I'm taking over there, bro?
Wait, wait, wait.
He's doing the taking.
Yeah, I'm doing it.
Delivering?
When you delivering?
He's doing the taking.
Wait, wait.
Hey, my man's pitching.
You know, baseball.
Look at you, bro.
Did no one try to do that?
I did a pitch, the first pitch, so that's how I know.
Oh, shit.
You just said me.
I saw it.
I saw it.
Fuck.
That's like Marlowe's.
Yeah, Marlo.
Did you have a good idea?
Was it good or was it 57?
No, no, I hit it.
I hit it.
I didn't send it, but I hit it.
It wasn't pipe like Mario.
I believe 50 sent it down purpose.
No, he didn't.
I believe it did.
You know what they was doing?
Even when I did it, you know what?
I was like, because I ain't Megan.
I ain't that chick that did the back flip.
So it wasn't viral, but I'm like, afterwards, I look at it.
I was like, maybe I should have just missed.
Yes, because that's what goes viral.
It goes viral.
Exactly.
Because they want to see you fail.
And they're like, ah, look at this motherfucker.
I don't know.
I don't think it was on purpose.
McGregor should have taken a watch off.
He kept his watch on.
He could have thrown him off because it's so heavy.
You know what I mean?
So that's why I took my watch off and I was like, Rob, I'm going to send this.
But I think 50 didn't do it on purpose.
He just didn't bring his arm back far enough for me to think it was on purpose.
You got to think of it.
Like, hood dudes look at baseball like, what the fuck?
It's pussy.
Use a bat for a different reason.
He never threw a baseball at me.
I practiced it on the pitch.
I practiced with another guy.
Stay right there.
You good?
It's cool.
Go.
Thanks, buddy.
But yeah, for me, I was like, maybe Loki afterwards, I was like, this is like the next, I was like, I should have missed.
If I had missed or done something funny.
We're chucked it into the stands, bro.
Why?
Because, man, it's like not hitting the catchers was going to make the noise.
I was just like, boop, boop.
And it was cool.
We dapped up.
The guy was cool.
The guy was cool.
I can't remember his name now, but he was cool.
I think Jesus.
They probably got a 50% chance of being ranked.
You got a 50% chance of being right there.
Maybe Miguel.
Yeah.
It's like if you're in a soccer stadium in Qatar.
It's Muhammad.
You go behind.
Hey, Mo.
Yo, if you did a crazy leg kick before you pitch, that would have gone.
That would have done something.
Yeah.
I thought about doing something cool, like crazy or cool, but like, yeah, missing would have been the one.
So that would go viral.
That would be the one that like.
Yo.
Yeah.
Kids one day.
Bro, I'm going to be the best dad.
That was good.
I do think.
No, I know.
I'm so proud of this guy.
No, no, no.
I wanted to do that.
What did you ask?
Do you want to have kids?
What if I talk?
So are you going to talk or am I going to talk?
Listen, I think that we should be those parents that leave it out, bro.
Well, respect.
We both leave it out.
Yeah, fuck Target, bro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just, yeah.
We'll be like Amanda and Mia.
I said nothing.
I said nothing.
Yo, shout out to Amanda.
Great career.
Yes, yeah.
Respect to the females.
But kids one day, yes?
I'm going to be a great dad.
Also, I'm being blessed to be surrounded by all like my friends, like Jesse, who danced with me in Melbourne.
Which one was Jesse?
Because there were three dudes you had.
He's the man in the middle with the broken n's tattoo on his forearms.
He had broken native.
That's my board.
Yeah.
He's the one.
His daughter's my, his firstborn is my, my goddaughter, Lexi.
She's the best.
Frano, he is a Grammy Award-winning producer.
He produced Rich Spirit, Kenneth Lamar, in Waihe Beach in New Zealand.
That beat was all in his house.
He made that.
His son, Camille, he's my boy.
I love him.
And, you know, Eugene's kids, they love me.
I've been blessed to be surrounded by kids and be able to watch them grow.
So I can't wait to have kids one day.
But for me, it's different now.
Oh, shit.
I'm about to get real.
Yes.
I just felt myself.
Yes.
Okay.
I never get this.
For me, it's different.
I like, I'm not trying to be with nobody.
I'm not trying to do any of that.
But like, it'll happen.
I don't look for it.
It'll happen.
But you do want to have family.
Oh, no.
It's going to happen.
When it happens, it happens.
Especially if you fuck you fucking little clap trots.
Don't try and get me pregnant.
Get me pregnant.
Yo, that is fine.
That is next level.
Happy Pride Month.
You can get me pregnant.
But you know what I mean?
Like, for me, it's like, I mean, you know, when he gets this level now, like, I'm lucky because I got married.
Yeah, you're fine.
You're fine.
Yeah.
Married, married.
Al, Al is fine.
He's ready to get married.
Go away.
When did you get married?
23 years old.
Happy birthday.
Yeah, thank you, bro.
Now you're in a tricky situation.
You know what I'm talking about?
That's why I'm very, I'm very mindful.
I'm very mindful.
I like to have fun.
I got the starting five.
Put it this way.
I got the starting five.
No, but the trickiest thing here is right, is like you want somebody to be starting five different, bro.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, but it's not the first seed, though.
That's what I'm wondering.
You know what I'm saying?
You got five girls watching right now.
Like, am I number one, two, three, four?
Yeah.
They're checking the money on.
Hold on, hold on.
Toitian, Katrina, Katrina, Katrina.
Shout out to Girls.
About three gibs.
Toya and Tina.
Bro, he's taking a snapshot.
Do you have Dreams?
I'm dying right now.
I gotta go back.
No, but tell us about the three Kims.
Like, how often are you in Korea?
So I think she might be the number one.
I mean, that'd be a good, that's a good number one, bro.
Respect.
Okay.
That's a number one.
They're all watching this right now.
I wonder who said she was.
She got a heavy chest.
No, you can't say that.
You can't say that.
He's being honest.
She will nurture your babies.
No, no, she will.
Bro, she'll nurture me.
I love breast milk.
It's good.
That's all the nutrients are.
That right there.
That's good.
It's crazy, man.
Hold on.
No, no, no, no.
Why your Wi-Fi shit?
Oh, no, that's hard.
She's not even Wi-Fi.
That's a Wi-Fi.
That's you.
But go back to her, though.
We're trying to look at your Wi-Fi.
I like that fight.
Market.
Market.
Market, Milo.
You'll be up till eight.
Yeah, you're on the market.
Is that what you mean?
Yeah.
I am on the market.
Bro, that's the tricky thing.
Asking about.
Right there.
Write it down.
Write it down.
Right down.
I'm on the market, Brian, for sale.
Oh, Newbart.
Are you to approve?
I'll act like he's on the voice.
Like he's about to turn his chair around.
I like it.
I think it's good.
He became a Nigerian dad really quick.
You know what I'm saying?
You don't terra.
I'm not depressed.
That mom was kind of fun.
That was adorable.
That was adorable and documented when your dad was like, we know he makes no money doing this.
Plus, when you need money, come to us.
Yeah, exactly.
That was adorable.
Nah, but that's what I mean.
Like, my parents, though, they didn't believe in my dream, but they always supported me.
Yeah, bro, your parents have like a really interesting confidence.
Yeah.
That's a European shit.
Yeah, yeah.
Is that a cultural thing?
Like, I think Nigerians is my child.
My parents have been very supportive and everything.
And 100%.
Dancer mom.
Yeah, like there is some mom with the heavies.
Mom got the heavs, bro.
That's you.
That, bro.
Mom and breastfeeding.
You trying to be a stepdad, bro?
Sandra, he didn't mean it, Sandra.
Sandra, he didn't mean it.
Sandra, he didn't mean it, Sandra.
Sandra, he didn't mean it.
Larry, Larry, he didn't mean it.
I know.
Leave it in, Miles.
Oh, respectfully.
Respectfully.
But no, but for real, bro, having parents that are supportive is like my mom didn't have support, so she got bras.
I don't want respect.
I'm writing down.
That's mine.
That's mine.
Son, no.
That one was crazy, bro.
Come on, bro.
Why are you blocking, bro?
Why are you blocking?
Why are you blocking, bro?
That was big thing, bro.
That's a ball.
You need your boys to gas you up.
I was trying to pull me down, bro.
He had a bar.
Sounds in a barrel, bro.
Son, for real, bro.
Yo, dude.
Bro, is that why you guys like the boils so much?
Because they're fucking crits.
Damn.
All for two.
Until you go to the boils.
And you be like, ah, this shit kind of makes sense.
Listen, guys.
Oh, shit.
I can't boil.
Hold on, Time's just set.
No, no, no, no.
Not my set.
I might have to do one thing that's a sick red coffee.
Fuck it.
Having fun.
I don't care.
Yo, listen, we out here.
We outside.
Is Emma?
Is my wife here?
Just ask her, ask her if she's here.
Where's Kawasaki?
Kawasaki's here.
Wasabi.
I know, but I like saying, wait, what is Kawasaki's?
No, but what country is it from?
Japan.
Japanese.
Is it Japanese?
Yeah.
Okay, I'll take it.
That's why it's fine.
Kawasaki.
Bro, you need to get on the Zins, bro.
The Zins are crazy.
What does it do?
Gives you the hiccups.
Yeah.
Hiccups.
If you ever wanted to just like chill with the boys and throw up, that's a good way to do it.
No, that's a good way.
If you're just like, yo, I could really use a gun.
Chill with the boys and then throw up.
Yeah, if you ever like, yo, I really need to throw up right now.
That's a good way to do it.
Damn.
Okay, hold on.
Let's listen.
I don't want to wrap it up.
I'm having fun.
No, we're not wrapping up.
No, you never.
I need to know.
I need to know.
Go, go, Hey, what you mean by that?
What did you mean by that?
Yo, you still got to wrap it up, though.
Isn't that crazy, bro?
What is that?
No, no, no, Joe.
Yo, shout out to Plan B.
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no.
Shout out to Plan B.
I never pulled out from a fight, but my pull-out game's strong.
You haven't learned the rubber guard yet.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, shout out to Addie.
Bravo, man.
Come on, bro.
Tam Flander, I see you.
I see you.
That was a good one.
Boy, he's clever.
Can I ask you a question?
What's the touching the parents' feet thing?
In Yoruba culture, it's like, not even their feet.
The proper ways you prostrate.
It's almost like a push-up.
Because I've been wanting to touch women's feet before I talk to them for so long.
But is this why are you talking about it?
Can I just say I'm Yoroba?
Can I just say I'm Yoroba?
Jeff LeLay now.
Can I just be like, boom, whatever.
It's so good.
I'm a making it like that.
But like, in Yoruba culture, like, when you prostrate the girls, they kneel down or wa kunle.
The boys, what do my leg?
So you prostrate.
It's almost like a push-up, fully, but when you're in public and it's like, you know, Western world, they don't understand.
So you just touch the ground in front of your parents to show respect.
I did it fully in the cage.
That's the full prostrate.
But then in public, I said, hello, mom, hello, dad.
Because I didn't see them till yesterday for the first time in this trip.
So just prostrate is a sign of respect.
It's a sign of ultimate sign of respect.
Wow.
And will girls do that too?
They kneel down.
They kneel down.
Yeah, they do.
Yeah, they kneel down.
The knees are.
Prostrating In Yoruba Culture00:08:01
You horny little motherfuckers.
Akash is so horny, bro.
He is.
I see.
Akash is so horny.
Lisa Ann, who was on the pod?
Lisa Ann or someone else and she was rising you.
Yo, but she was quizzing.
And Akash was trying to throw it back, but he was so horny, bro.
Oh, for real?
Akash is one of the most horny guys I know, bro.
What do you think is Indian?
Send Bobs on the Victorian.
They're horny, bro.
They're horny, bro.
And he's horny, bro.
You caught that one.
Thank you.
He's here.
Let me know.
Let me know.
Shout out to the Bobs and Vegime, bro.
Bibby.
No, Bob's in the Vegam.
What is your advice for Akash, who's so horny all the time?
Because sometimes it's a distraction.
Like, sometimes we want to start the pod, but he's just like, I'm trying to fucking help it, bro.
Man, I got shows, bro.
You're going to hurt me, bro.
Open wide.
He's a big boy, bro.
He's a big boy, bro.
This is a big boy.
You know how small and cute he is?
No, but the thing is crazy.
The thing is crazy.
That's what I mean.
He's small and cute, but I know.
I know.
I know the vibe because I haven't seen his body.
But you can, you can, you know, the energy.
Yeah.
The energy is crazy.
Energy recognized energy.
I know.
His shit looks a potato.
We're all brothers.
Look at that right now.
He's sticks in his mic.
Chill out.
Chill out, son.
But do you have advice for him because he's so horny?
You ever heard about semen retention?
Oh, respect.
He did that for about 34 years.
Let's go.
It went to his gut, though.
It went to his gut.
Yo, that shit is in his hips, son, for real.
He got nut in his hips.
How you get to nut out your hips?
What do you do?
Pilates?
You just got to start jerking up your hips.
Just rub your belly, come through your navel.
Oh, no.
Man, I don't know.
But we need to think about ways to get.
Are you really horny?
He's a horny guy.
That's why he can't sleep.
He's got his body.
Literally, he stays up to four in the morning every single night, jerking off like a chimpanzee with a red ass.
He wears his cuddle on his dick, bro.
Yo, shout out, Punjab.
Let's go ahead.
Yo, so this highest.
This pants is just warming up the wrist.
Was it again?
Was it again?
I didn't better choke, though.
No.
Pakistani Chorde.
Kaligani Chori.
Pakistani Jordan.
Kaligani Jordan.
Pakistani Jordan.
Kaligali Jordan.
Pakistan John here.
It wasn't me, Pylon.
Shout out to the Pakistanis, bro.
We love y'all, but y'all thieves.
Give us Kashmir.
I don't know what that is.
Did y'all get Kashmir back in?
Kashmir, no.
Is that the fabric he used to wipe his cum off his butt?
I'm not even going to tonight.
Oh, no, bro.
Whoa.
He doesn't know.
You got to show us tonight, bro.
I don't want to do that because he ripped my fucking jeans two weeks ago.
That's sucks.
I love that.
Was it water though?
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
I wouldn't have done it before.
Okay, let's keep going.
I'm about to jerk off.
Look, you see how they divide us?
Yeah.
Hey, Vala, you see how they divide us, bro?
Bro, never.
This is like what Izzy got in China.
This is that noodle.
I'm in Jordan now.
Fuck, I'm sorry, Vala.
No, no, no, no.
I know, I know, but you said yesterday what I.
Oh, yo, yo, Vala said he pulled up to you yesterday.
He was like, what's up?
And then you held him at a distance.
And you were like, are you here to drive a van through my skull?
Bro.
Leave it.
Leave it in.
Leave it.
So, for me, you know what it's like sometimes.
Al is prime.
If an Indian accent comes out right now, Al's about to walk off setup, bro.
If an Indian accent comes out, Al is like walking.
Listen, Al.
We're not talking about it.
Al, everybody, chill out.
You got your sides in on the target.
I'm not going to bring it up.
We got to meet up later.
Yes.
Yeah, we do.
That's it.
Let's go back to the show.
Where were we supposed to meet up again?
How many sports are you doing?
At the corner of the parking lot garage, perhaps crazy.
That's crazy.
Listen, I'm wet, bro.
Hey, I can see that.
Your boy's wet.
Since tequila, Coca-Cola, burps on your back.
And wet up.
Hey, Ash, Ash, control yourself.
Oh, you felt it?
My bad.
I'm about to smash.
No, no, no.
Smash.
Cheers to you.
Bro, what a fucking journey.
What a life.
What a life.
I don't think there's probably people listening right now for the first time.
Wow.
They don't even realize what's happening.
Like, what the come up is and why this is so crazy.
Crazy.
You guys are.
No, no.
Like I said, nah, like it's cool to see, like you say, you know, last time I pulled up to the studio was just me, Ash, and I think one other person.
And now I go to hold.
You got the squad.
Squad, Army.
Same thing when I was there.
Scotia banked twice.
We did all right.
Bro, that's all.
We did all right.
Shout out Toronto, man.
But then, same thing on the other side.
See what you guys did, started off with, and then see how it expanded now to what it is in the army.
And then who am I?
Bro, four years from now.
What are we going to do, man?
Nah, like, I can't wait.
So we're going to be in little playgrounds with kids and shit, telling our glory stories, bro.
You know what's funny, though?
That'd be cool.
It took the pressure off me.
Bill Bird did.
What did he say?
He said something about having this kid at 40, that kind of like he got rid of all of his uh well, got rid, but like took handled a lot of his demons.
So you don't pass it on to your kids.
Yeah you, there's always gonna be stuff you're gonna pass on bro, but not to bring back to to the doc.
But it's like it's one of those things where like, seeing you go through a little little journey yeah, I do think that that is me.
As a kid, I had a big ass head, like the same size head, but a skinny body that yeah, I look like a lollipop.
No, I did.
Like you sense it.
There was that one photo in there.
I was like I was at one of my uncle's weddings and I was just like, did you look back at photos of you and be like I understood why they bullied me a little bit?
Yeah no, I get it now.
Also, I was annoying.
I got because again, people please a thing yeah, and I didn't realize sometimes it could annoy certain people, so I didn't know how to pull back.
So you had a black thing because I had a big ass head when I was a kid too.
Ow, you're not black, bro.
Stop, stop it.
Can we tell him what you really are?
This is actually?
Oh he's, he's actually.
He's not bro, tell him, tell him.
I feel like finding that even Al's actually Mongolian, but he's been acting like he's black the whole time bro, it's so funny and nobody's gone.
Dude, he is.
That's Gangus bro, for real.
Yeah, the whole world yeah, damn no, but No's getting married bro, remember not?
But not what?
For real man, my man's outside, but Al's gonna get like a boomerang and then it comes back.
Is that a Blood?
Diamonds move in Australia right now he's helping VOLK.
He's helping Volk with um because he's helping Vault, because what is he helping Volcano?
What is he helping BULK with?
I see where you go, I see where you go.
He's helping us nah, but like he's um because uh, diamond is, like I said, the.
You know the drive-by, the scorpion throws that weird.
You know when even your hair, that zombie knockout, remember that.
No, you need a guy who's got weird striking to prepare for yeah yeah, but you've seen that.
You seen that knockout, but it, but the knockout.
Wait, which one are you talking about?
The one where you get there versus zombie, when he?
Yeah, the the back yeah, where they both did double.
Last 10 seconds, the same.
Yeah, what the.
Yeah, timing.
Yeah, that's Diamond.
So see the way he did that.
Yeah Diamond, that's the drive bar, the scorpion kickboy just on his leg, and he hit me.
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The first time he did it I was like what the was that?
Literally same thing.
But yeah, so he's doing that right now and getting ready.
Probably he might be there in july.
I'll be in Vegas in july.
So when are we gonna do something?
No cameras, nothing.
We all gotta go somewhere tonight.
Yes, it might be tonight.
We did karaoke, that's what I was saying.
Karaoke was so much fun bro, like that's the thing, like yes, and after that was fun too.
Yo yo yo alright, you went a wire after was fun, it was fun.
But this time there was no after man, what?
You went home after singing yeah journey yeah, that's it.
You don't know now you know.
You know what's funny at the boxing, Barbsing at the boxing, the fights, I um, because they played it on and I was like blow up, like the world Trip born, something.
And then I, if you don't know now you know, I just looked around.
I was like Try to catch it.
I don't care.
I just watched it.
I was like, who's brain?
Collect some receipts.
What do we got?
What do we got?
Bambala.
Oh, respect.
Oh, fired.
Yeah, that shit's crazy.
I put it in once in a while just because.
Where's that been?
Huh?
Where has it been?
The whole episode.
Where's the presentation before?
Came out of nowhere and just manifested.
Hold on, I got a pee again.
Hold on.
What are you doing?
I got a pee.
I got a pee.
Who got a pee?
Who got a pee?
Sony, who got a pee?
Dick talk.
On that wrong podcast, wrong podcast.
All right.
No, no, this one.
This one.
Is that the Zen?
I want to know.
It's literally legal.
They sell it at fucking stores.
No, nicotine.
It's nicotine that goes into your life.
Let's try it, bro.
It's nothing.
Give me some of those.
It'll make him nauseous.
If he doesn't do it, okay.
Look ash out for you.
Look at his eyes in a way.
His eyes are like, don't do it.
No.
No.
No, I'll try one maybe tomorrow later on.
I just want to know what.
I just want to know what.
What about Kratom?
Is that that?
No, no, no, no.
Why the hell we got some potter?
What even is that?
Chocolate mushrooms and we talk about meth.
What even is meth?
What even is meth, bro?
Listen, here's the deal: the fact that Ash is the guy that's keeping you in line.
I just want to know what the fuck is that fucking craziest things that's ever happened in history.
This is the wildest human being I've ever met in my life.
Exactly.
The fact that he's keeping me together.
But you know what's funny?
Actually, I wonder if he needs, we need more Jack Dale's.
I wonder if you need a guy like that to keep you in line.
I need a baby.
He's too straight.
No, no, no.
But if he's too straight, then you're going to be like, fuck this guy, yeah.
Fuck this guy.
What the fuck do you know?
You don't know what I beat.
You don't know shit.
You don't understand my struggle.
Yeah.
Bless me.
Bless me.
My bad.
That was Savage True.
No, bad.
I felt that.
I like it straight.
Hey, we're good.
I knew he prepared.
Yeah, put a loose.
Yo, but Ash, why don't you drink something?
Fucking drink shit, bro.
You don't have any fun.
Fucking pill.
You don't have any fun.
Let's go.
The fucking legend.
Let's go.
The legend.
We're going back.
I want to drink this.
Listen, can we get Ash a chair?
So he can just be drag akash out one time.
Yes, one time.
Yeah, because I never be out with you tonight.
No, he doesn't drink.
I know, but he can hang out.
No, no, he's got cocks.
Also, he fucks.
That's funny.
He doesn't.
Neither.
No, he fucks.
Come here.
We're bringing you a chair.
Hold on.
Jack hat my bag.
Drop it down.
Get him a mic or something so we can have it.
When you got that head back here, we'll eat tomorrow.
So this is our last night.
Can we bring that mic over?
That mic over?
Does that reach?
No, the thing is, if I have to stay one more night, then six people have to stay one more night.
Then it's like the logistics.
That shows me.
In Puerto Rico, we're like, hey, just.
Bro, where did you guys stay in Puerto Rico?
Ritz.
Oh, my God.
After one of my USA fights, I'm going straight back there for a whole week.
I want to try every breakfast item on that menu.
So fucking good.
Is that good?
Wait, where at?
The Ruiner Ricos.
They treat you good.
Oh, my God.
Come on.
Bro, Mark got the little Sundaes in his system.
Hair coming out.
Come on.
I literally just turned.
I was just like, oh, shit.
No, he did that.
He's fucking it up.
He's like, yo, YouTube preacher.
This is pillowdoing between us.
I need that right here.
There's a motherfucking shit.
You got it.
Hold on.
Do you need?
Do you need?
Do you need ice?
Can we get some more ice in here?
Nigga, I like room temperature.
Nah, fuck rooms.
No.
No.
Rooms and their temperature, bro.
Damn.
This guy.
Temperature is overrated.
Cheers.
Fair, fair, fair.
Listen, yo, Ash, sit down, my boy.
Come on, Coke.
Come on, yeah.
Yo, right out the bottle.
On your back, I'm wet up.
Yeah, bot.
Your dog.
Your dog, a VB.
Straight second pull, right?
Bro, what is that?
Some spiral shit in Australia.
What was it that we saw?
Drinking a VB.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You dogs.
That's a beer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Duck.
Wait, why?
You don't like, you don't fuck with the VB?
So, they baseball.
No, no, no, no.
For me personally, my dad used to distribute Guinness all over West Africa.
Oh, really?
Yeah, that was like one of his businesses.
So when I was about maybe seven or eight, I remember just being like, what does that taste like?
And he's like, have a sip.
And I was like, oh, yuck.
So I didn't drink till I was 18 because I just thought every alcohol tasted like Guinness.
But then those 18, I found bourbon and coke.
I'm a Woodstock.
Yeah.
Then I understood.
When I first got drunk, I remember like, oh, that's why that girl's crying outside the party.
Oh, that's guy.
That's why that guy wants to fight everyone.
Bro.
It's like my eyes was open to why drunk people do what drunk people do.
What'd it bring out of you?
I'm just a fucking golden retriever, bro.
I'm like happy when I'm drunk.
But, I mean, if it gets down, it gets down.
But I'm a happy drunk.
I'm not one of these guys who drinks and then like I look for static.
I'm not that guy.
Is it weird now that nobody wants static?
Not anymore, but back in the day when they did, like maybe three years ago, someone trying, you know, people get jealous guys as well.
They're trying to say, I'm like, bro, I'm not going to whip your ass for free.
The fuck?
Why would I whoop your ass for free?
That's so fire.
What a fire line.
Nah, like literally.
Also, Google me.
I'm tough.
Who the fuck are you?
Yeah.
It's because no one knows who the fuck you are.
You're trying to prove yourself.
I'm like, I don't know.
You would have guys still kind of pushed me.
Like about two, three years ago.
Now no one would try me.
Also, I have.
So Paulie.
The big ones.
No, no, no.
Yeah.
What about the cripple one you have?
Where's my fire?
Yeah, where's my fuck?
Shout out to your boy.
Fuka, Fukua.
He's on.
Fuka, Fuka.
Bro, he was hobbling, but still being in security.
It was the most endearing, beautiful thing I ever seen.
Like him thinking something was going on and like hobbling over as quick as he could.
Bro, that man.
Nah, but like, so Paulie, former super heavyweight King of the Ring champ.
Whoa.
I just walked out.
We know about Paulie.
I just walked outside.
Man, Fuka Slay.
So cute.
But he got locked down.
Yeah, he locked down.
He locked it down.
Explain King of the Ring to people who aren't familiar with.
It just happened in a recent one.
And Cam Rauston, oh my God.
He just also, Cam.
Shout out to Cam.
When we were at Team Karaoke, we had your boy.
What was his name?
White Kid, who was with us.
He drove King.
Was it him?
No.
King of the Ring channel.
No, no.
Well, that's when we do a karaoke.
He was with us.
He's in New York now, and he was training.
But he remembered when you first came to the gym and he was like, oh, fuck, this kid's a problem.
White kid.
White dude.
He was a kickboxing dude.
He did King of the Ring back in the day.
Not Mark.
What's the name of today?
Mark.
Joe, Joe.
Joe Hopkins?
Yeah, that's my boy.
Yeah, he lives in New Zealand, though.
He lives in the future.
But he was with us.
Yeah, he came for the fight.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
He was good people, though.
He's the man.
So Cam Rawson just won the recent King of the Ring.
But also, one of our boys, Ash, Jordan Sully, was in the finals with him.
Oh, fuck.
Yeah.
And when you have to fight your boy that you kind of train with, it's different.
It's a different energy.
So apparently, no one from our gym was in the corner.
We had to get different people.
Because you don't want to go against the game.
Of course.
Yeah.
It's a skills.
It's like the best man.
Shout out to the gym, though.
The gym is producing the two guys that are at the end of the day.
But it was a crazy fight.
Cam won, but apparently the final seconds, excuse me, the final seconds was Ash rocked Cam.
Go.
And he was on wobbly legs, but then about, I think it was about eight seconds before the bell.
And yeah, I'm glad I wasn't there because if I was there, I would be in a nervous wreck.
So the concept is like eight-man tournament, right?
So it's like, I'm not sure if you mentioned, but it's like, like you fight three or four times.
If you win it, you fight three times.
No, that night.
One.
That night.
Break your hand in the second place.
Watch this.
I've won it three times.
Really?
King in a ring.
How many times you break some shit in the middle of...
None.
I broke faces.
Sturdy.
But not my own.
For me, I've won.
Actually, I've won how many eight-man.
I've won four eight-man tournaments and I've won one four-man tournament.
And King in the Ring, I won three times at two different weight classes.
Wow.
The thing with tournaments, though, when you do it, you like after the first fight, you have an adrenaline, an adrenal dump or adrenaline dump.
So you have to kind of like regulate yourself and don't go too.
Because when you fight, it's like you're up here and you come down.
You have to regulate.
You have to adjust.
Adjust and then put your jacket on, stay warm.
Wait for the next fight.
Oh, shit.
I didn't think after the fight, you have to adjust.
And then you have to fight against.
Again, second one, semifinals.
And then what I like to do is I go sit in the crowd with my friends and I have my jacket on and I just be in the vibe.
And then the final fight, then you get over there and then you just show out.
But it's a to win an eight-man tournament is no easy feat, especially in kickboxing as well.
It's, yeah, it's, you have to, it's a special feud.
I do that.
And to win it once even is cool, twice, awesome, three times.
Never done.
I did it.
Yeah.
God.
How injured are you going into that third fight?
Sometimes you are.
I mean, nose is sore, jaws are fine.
No, mine.
I fight smart.
I fight eggs.
No, no, no.
No, from kicking.
Kicking.
Oh, fuck.
For every action.
There's an equal and opposite reaction.
Baby.
Yo, shout out news, baby.
You know, the center of violence.
So when you're kicking, obviously throughout the fight, right?
Your shins are starting.
You're good.
Your shins are starting to take damage.
Yeah, because you're not.
Because you kicked by that third fight.
Nah, I'm fine.
Because like, also, adrenaline, pain tolerance.
But I just know, I've had experience.
Also, I had Doug Viney, who's one of my coaches, who's the other owner of CKB.
He's won a few of those, and he kind of just coached me on my first one in Puerto Covey years ago.
He coached me and just made sure I was fine.
Sorry, I'm just going to try and put this mic.
I got you, bro.
Thanks, buddy.
It's almost like a ride of passage to the UFC from our crew.
You've got Israel won it three times.
Blood Diamond twice.
Carlos Alvo twice.
And now Cam that he's speaking of.
We just got him signed to Dana White Contender Series.
I'll fight in September.
Obviously, he's fighting for his spot.
And it's one of those things on that show, you really got to show out.
So, you know, because even if you win, it doesn't mean you're going to get signed.
But yeah, like he's won twice now and actually just won on the weekend.
That's the guy he's talking about.
So a lot of our guys, we push, and that's just a kickboxing match.
Obviously, they're going into MMA.
But that's how well-rounded, obviously, the gym is and the guys are.
They can do both.
I love that Craig is out there with you guys.
Yeah.
Oh, no, he's back in the middle.
That guy's funny as hell, bro.
I've been hung out back in the house.
We had him here, but I got on Instagram.
And that motherfucker is, he is marketing it brilliantly.
He's on some eight-mile shit.
You can't say anything about it.
It wasn't his new shirt.
Was it Keep Juicu Gay?
Yeah.
And then there was like, what was it?
Like, I seen someone else is called Craig Jones.
Yeah.
There was like, there was something online that he posted.
Oh, yeah.
It was like, there's someone else called Craig Jones.
And it was like, I don't know, something happened.
Like, it was like they outed this guy called Craig Jones.
I don't know what it was about.
I can't remember now, but it was like, and he was like, oh, it was because I wore the gay shirt.
You know, like, it was like.
So the other Craig Jones was gay.
I don't know.
Nah, it was something.
I don't know what it was.
Dude, he's just managed, like he's owned everything that's happened.
Even calling it B-Team Jiu-Jitsu.
Second place.
He's saying first, you're second.
Bro, yeah, he's great.
I think what he's doing is that.
He's like, I swear, like, when I, because I've rolled with high-level guys, Andre Gaval.
Yeah, I saw that.
I've been to Atos, Jiu-Jitsu, in San Diego.
The Rotola brothers, fucking amazing.
I've seen those guys in one championship.
So they're beating.
Magic.
No, no.
But like...
It's so good.
But when I roll with Craig, it feels like magic.
Because I'll have a Dodge choke.
But he knows he just, there's levels to it.
No, no.
The first time he did it, this is why I bring this up.
It's because the Dodge, I had it locked up.
I'm like, I got this.
And then within one, two moves, he's on my back.
I'm like, how sweet?
Keep jiu-jitsu gay, bro.
He gonna get on your back.
You gotta motivate him.
Got out the back a little bit, maybe, but still, it's just wild the way he does it.
And it's just his intellect.
He's a lovely smart guy.
Yeah, Volk talks about it as well.
Like, you know, it's been a big pillar for him very simple.
It's not a fight.
He really.
But does Volk have an advantage that his head is just right on his shoulder?
I think that's a hell of a tattoo.
Bro, that's legendary.
The fact that he even survived it, dude, legendary.
But that was the first time that Craig came in on that camp.
So Craig came in on a tough show when Alex did tough versus Otega.
And it just so happened that obviously all the time the work they did there ended up like Alex got in that position and he was able to.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Even when they worked on it before the fight, like right before the fight, they worked on it before they walked out.
And for Alex to survive this guy who's a submission specialist, his guillotine, get out, deep guillotine.
Bro, that shit was crazy.
And then fall into a triangle, T-City.
Bro.
Fall to a triangle and then get out of his other move.
And then for the remainder of the third round, fucked him up for like 30 seconds.
Yeah.
Get out of the guillotine.
I feel like once you're in it, you're done.
There's levels, there's techniques.
It's like, I have to roll on the ground to show you, but like...
We can roll on the ground.
Trying to roll.
I'm not hoping these gay rumors, bro.
Happy birthday.
Is that the next level for your guy's crew is becoming experts in jiu-jitsu as well?
You guys are known for the kickboxing.
I mean, on the not me yet.
Fuck, I want to.
Not me yet, but like a lot of, like, Dan, that's a sting.
Hangman, he'll hang you.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's his thing.
He knows how to do.
And also Cam as well.
When do we get to see Dan again, man?
Dan, July.
Oh, is he fighting the next fight?
Yeah, he's fighting good.
Making Him A Better Fighter00:03:41
That's right, Jalen.
That's right.
Yes, it's one of those fights where like he he'll you know.
Bro, Tan is so funny.
You could tell, like, I knew when he got one tattoo, his whole body would be tattooed within the battle.
But he went crazy.
Bro, bro, why?
I knew immediately.
He had a taste.
That's it.
You should wish to see his legs.
He got to get it right now.
He got to get it in my hands, right?
Bro, no, his legs look too.
His legs look cool as fuck.
Yeah, I've seen it on the other side.
I'm used to it now a little bit, but still, when I go back, I was like, fuck, that's cool.
It's just like a whole piece.
And I can't wait to wrestle around someone's head.
It's just, oh, bro, it's going to look so cool.
Bro, we did a show in Vegas, and I think he was at Cam on Stage.
And he came, but I've never seen somebody who's never been in front of people for that reason be so calm.
Yeah.
He's like, oh, okay.
He's a psychopath.
He actually is.
He's a psychopath.
He got an ankle picked and let it happen.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, that shit is care in New York.
Like, I watched it.
It was popping.
It's insane.
He was like, well, if my leg breaks, my leg breaks.
The guy's left on like, that's a special.
It kept on going.
I'm just like, bro, just.
Yeah.
So being in a theater, that's nothing, bro.
That's my work.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nah, what we do is, yeah, it's a special feud.
It's a special feud.
But not everyone can get to this point.
as a fighter not everyone can get to that point where it's like they're just like the me and gaslum people think i was joking about that when i'm like bro if i die here i die here this is it who thought you were joking no no no no you guys you're my boys but like most people go oh this is bullshit whatever but i meant that because it's that moment i was like bro if this is where i die this is where i die but if i'm ready to die i'm ready to kill and that's what that i was trying to kill him i was trying to kill him have you spoken to him since he's going back to welterweight I fuck with Gaslam.
He's the man.
I talked to him.
He was fighting on my last card as well.
He was there.
This is the question I have, and this kind of ties into the Pereira fight where there's like a kinship after it.
If the fight is more of a war, does it make you guys closer after?
Because you push each other to that limit, that level.
So I'm grateful for Gaslam because he made, he, it was one of the one of the greatest moments of my life was that moment before the fifth round and that fifth round because he pushed me past my limit that I thought I had.
I thought I was like, I didn't know I was, I wasn't done.
Like he hurt me in the fourth round.
I'm wobbled.
And then me and Eugene, I can't remember what he said.
I wish I'm going to ask the UFC to get the mic of what was sitting in the corner because I want to know.
But he gave me, he didn't give me any like corner advice.
Eugene just kind of gave me the speech.
It just motivated me.
Just like, something to like, this is what you're born for.
We're built for this.
And I remember this, what he was saying, I remember Brad Riddell's voice in my head going, embrace the darkness, because he was saying that to me when I was in the air dying.
He's like, embrace the darkness, go numb, go numb.
So then when I said, you're not going to beat me, I'm ready to die.
I'm prepared to die.
I meant that.
And when you get to that place with someone and they push you past that, you appreciate them way more.
Like, there's a scar on my face.
If I look in the mirror, I'm pointing to it, but I can't see a mirror right now.
But like, I know he's got a scar on his face from me that when you look at it, you're like, ah.
But same with Pereira.
I appreciate Pereira because he made me a better fighter.
He made me a better, better athlete because he pushed me.
He beat me three times.
And I was just like, bro, I need to be better.
I need to go to that next level so I can like, you can know yourself.
You can realize who you are as a warrior, as a fighter.
So yeah, I'm grateful for those moments.
And yeah, after that, then you, even me now with him, I'm going to make him a better fighter.
I just fucking did what I did to him.
It's going to make him better.
It's going to make him better.
Is that the darkest corner you've been in?
Ooh.
For fighting, life, no.
Fighting.
I want to say him and Gaslam.
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It's like, nah, yeah.
No, you're right.
Yep.
Yep.
Who?
Pereira.
Because this last camp, I just seen me.
He knows me.
I'm a freak.
He knows what it was like before even the first Whitaker fight.
Rodman, Dennis Rodman.
Dennis Rodman.
I like vacations.
What do you do?
Like, I work hard.
I play hard.
And I've always said I'm no one's hero.
I'm no one's guru.
If you take him from my story, it's cool.
But like, yeah, now I'm mature.
I know my body.
I know my mindset.
And like I said, if Rob wins this fight, I know what I have to do to get myself up for this fight.
Fuck it.
Breaking news.
I'm going to submit him.
Rob, boy.
If Rob wins this fight, I'm going to submit him.
If he wins this fight, I don't care.
I'm not going to knock him out.
I'm going to submit him.
Even though you could.
You wanted to sign him.
I've already knocked him out how many times.
Knockouts.
What?
That's a weird thing that you have to do as a fighter.
Find ways to get yourself into it.
Because I'm fighting him a third time.
But that's not just a fight.
It's like the camp.
Yeah, what is the inspiration for it?
Why are you going to get on the bike?
Why are you going to run?
Why are you going to do the cardio?
If he wins, I'm going to submit you.
If you win.
If not, Drickus, I'm just going to fucking fucking do it.
And we're back.
No, no, keep it in, but just bleep it.
No.
No!
Bleep it.
Why can't you bleep it?
Yeah, bleep it.
You want to say the n-word?
Who knows what you said?
Nothing's been said.
Nothing's been said.
Look, nothing's been said.
We don't even know what you want to bleep.
We don't even know what you want to bleep.
Nothing's been said.
I will own him against his will.
Bleep it.
Try again.
Try it.
Try this.
Try it.
I got it.
I will beat you.
There you go.
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There's the reason I brought Craig in because of the work he did with Volk, but also I vibe with him.
In Perf, we hung out and I was like, you know, like, he's the man.
But you know when we became friends?
You remember where we became friends?
We got security coming in.
Uh-oh.
Oh, so let's go.
Uh-oh.
He's awake.
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The guy got like eight men on his ass.
He's awake.
No, but like, so me and Craig, we became friends that way as well.
But then he's a long guy.
He's got these limbs.
He knows how to use it.
And I was like, you know what?
I want to learn what you know about the human body and constricting people.
So that's why I brought him in.
And yeah, if Rob wins, I'm going to constrict him.
There's one thing that I, real quick, real quick, there's one thing I noticed about grappling is that the grappling cardio is different from the striking cardio.
Grapple?
I have only just gotten mauled on the ground.
No, no, no, no.
Shout out to Tim.
Oh, you got a strong little grip.
Trying to lil what?
Hold on, let me let you grab some of that.
You see that?
You see that stock?
Squat, here you go.
Squat!
I learned that from Tim Welch.
Bro, this guy was choking out Tim.
He was choking out Tim.
Tim Welch.
And then tapped out while he was choking him.
I've never seen anything like him.
Tim, let me choke him.
No, no, no.
It was.
I put the leg.
No, no, it was Getsy.
I think it's Getty.
You put the leg over on the back?
Is that Getsy?
Yeah, it gets him.
Yeah, Getting.
And then if you're...
He had flexible.
He was like, son, I got flexible hands.
So he goes, he goes, and he goes, keep going, keep going, keep going.
And I couldn't do it.
Because he wanted me to bring him to the point where he was asking me to gassed out.
No, my emotion gassed out.
My empathy showed up.
I just didn't want to go there with it.
Yeah, bet.
What were you going to say?
Oh, yeah.
While we're doing breaking news, there was a fight we all wanted a couple years ago.
Yeah.
John Jones.
Yeah.
Is that still possible now that he's gone up?
It's not even that.
It's like, it's kind of like the Alex thing where everyone's like, oh, we need a fifth fight.
And everyone's like, everyone else is more bricked up for that than me and him.
I'm not interested in fifth fight with Alex.
Exactly.
No, well, most people.
Unless he comes up and gets another belt.
That's exactly right.
Most people are like, look, everyone ought 3-1.
You got to make it.
Oh, it's 1-1 in MMA.
You got to do a third one.
And I was like, no one cares.
No.
My thing is me and Jones are the same thing.
Even like on Impulsive, when they said what they said, I was like, I thought it was a joke.
And then he actually actually pulled it up.
And I was like, oh, that's funny.
But it's.
What happened with just Jones gave him props, I guess.
From a martial arts perspective, I guess he said, you know, he was asked a question, like, who are you a fan of?
And he was like, well, actually, like, I'm a fan of Israel.
Oh, fire.
Bro, that's the thing.
It's like, if there's one thing which is promoting a fight, and there's another thing which is martial arts, right?
And there isn't fighting.
And that taps into like what we were saying earlier about like that.
You mean when two guys fought each other, but then they become a connection.
What the fuck are you doing?
Izzy's an alien.
Izzy's an alien.
Izzy's accidentally.
Izzy's an alien.
Watch out.
Watch this.
Watch this.
Yo, yo, watch his hands.
That's not, no, no, that's not.
Give me that.
That's all I know.
No, no, don't do that.
Don't do that.
Slow it.
Do it.
Rip it, baby.
Rip it, baby.
Come on, let's go.
Slowly.
Watch.
I know, I know.
No, I'm already watching.
You know, Akash got him constantly.
He's his father's son.
Big Bull Schultz says.
Okay, let's die in front of us.
Just open a fucking regular leg.
There you go.
Izzy.
Come on.
Don't rap.
Go pee, go pee.
Go right to the bars, you failure.
You can rap again.
Yeah, you gotta pee again.
You're a white ass dick, Alex.
What's it up, bro?
Wow.
Why a white dick gotta be a diss.
Huh?
Huh?
Yeah, why?
You got that Moby dick.
Come on, we got the show.
Shout out to Moby, bro.
You know, shout out to Moby, bro.
Moby Dick, big whale.
No, no, I'm just saying, shout out to Moby for going for the big ones, bro.
I thought that was the one.
Moby's the whale.
Oh, I thought it was dude.
I was talking about the techno producer.
His name is Moby Melville.
Moby Dick.
No, what's his whale?
Captain Ahab.
What's the guy's name?
Captain Ahab.
Ahab.
Had he got to him.
Shout out to Ahab, bro.
How do you know that?
No, but Ahab was after the sisters for the longest, bro.
That's what that whole story is about, bro.
Ahab was like, I need the big booty Latinas, bro.
It beats like that.
It does.
I remember in Puerto Rico.
That's a great story.
That's got to chill up his spine.
He said, hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Lock down.
Hold on.
Lockdown.
Any good stars, man.
Any good stars with Puerto Rico.
That was a sweet jump out with all the breakfast items.
About a week ago.
Okay, go on.
You remember in Puerto Rico?
Ash was never there.
He's not a part of the story at all.
Fun time.
What?
Clear your throat.
What's in your throat?
The girl needs to clean her throat.
Hey, man, calm down.
I was on the fighting toaster, man.
What's this?
Let's see.
You know what's funny?
Literally, we went on a worldwide fucking platform.
And yeah.
Even Jeff.
Jeff, the videographer, who fills every moment of your life.
He's like, hey, cut the cameras, bro.
As he said, as he said.
Just start drinking beer.
He's like, as he said, Jeff Narris went to film and when I know this shit.
We don't know when not to.
We have to figure that out.
We didn't cut anytime, but I just think I'm just having a good time.
I'm having a real time.
We're getting Florida.
You're in a broad.
Like I said, it's great.
I'm grateful.
Oh, man.
I'm just feeling for you guys, bro.
Look at the luckies he said, you know, like coming back in 2018 when we were here, you know, like when we came through.
It was like that little place in Brooklyn.
It was in Brooklyn.
No, we were in Manhattan.
We were down to the bottom.
There was a pool.
We went to the wrong address.
We went to Brooklyn first in Brooklyn.
Oh, yeah, y'all went to the wrong place.
They went to a Jewish show.
Shout out, bro.
So we went to the wrong place.
It was like a Jewish joint.
Yeah, so we pulled up outside.
It was like a Hasidic Jewish neighborhood.
I see the noodle head.
Curls.
Noodleheads is where he used to fight.
That was China, bro.
You're talking about the Abraham Lincoln team.
Oh, yo, hey, oh, oh, hey.
Calm down.
Come down, bro.
They were locked down.
But yeah, so it pulled up and I looked at it.
I went back in time.
That's what it is.
That's what I was like, what the fuck?
That's what it is.
And then we text you guys and then da da da da.
We were like, wrong borough.
Yeah.
And then we were like, when you guys have this, oh, go to 75th Street and 63rd on fucking 20th.
It's like, what the?
It's all just like, I don't get it.
I know.
But I'm from here.
I know.
You guys are from here.
How long did you live in China and you still couldn't figure out fucking math?
He said he ate the women, not the tests.
Good point.
Come on.
Good point, guys.
Good point.
You're asking him to drive Ainlanda in China.
No, Nigeria.
Wait, is it crazier?
Bro, it's like everyone's on a race to nowhere.
Yeah.
Legit India.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can I say Ghana's really coming up?
Is Nigeria a little jealous that Ghana's coming up?
Okay, I lived in Ghana for about a year and a half.
Oh, really?
Accra, Abikala Paz.
If you know, you know.
Like, I went to Sunnyside Primary School.
I was out there in Ghana.
I dropped the watch at Banku.
All that.
We ain't jealous.
Also, Jolof Rice came from Nigeria.
Don't stop.
Yo, yo, talk that shit.
Talk that shit.
Talk that shit.
Trust me.
But who got the best?
Just be honest.
Nigerians.
Ghana, dog.
You're Puerto Rican.
He said that, man, the accent came out.
The accent came out.
What are we going to do?
It's Puerto Rican.
He's got to tell me, wait, where is Apple?
I'm just saying, Ghana.
Three countries that make the jello.
Mexican talking to me.
I'm about Joloff Rice.
I'm about Jolloff Rice.
What did this guy talk about?
Oh!
I would tell you.
Hold on.
I was saying, get up.
Hold on.
Nigeria.
I feel how they want to feel.
It's different.
It's Ghana, Nigeria.
And then there's one more.
Who has the Joe Love?
That's fire.
What is it?
Ghana was the one I remember.
No, no.
S outlaw.
Starts with an S. Sudan.
No.
Senegal.
Senegal, yes.
Senegal.
Nobody never.
Everybody said Senegal got the best.
Well, everybody.
He's in Canada.
I'm just saying that's what everybody said.
I was like, yo, Ghana got the best.
Ghana, Ghana.
No one.
Nigeria got the best.
Cambodula.
Yo, what's that little chicken dish they got in Nigeria?
The chicken skewer thing or whatever?
It's like.
No, no, no.
Suya.
No, no, no.
It's not chicken.
It's normally goat meat or beef.
Diffnose.
No, no.
It's like a.
Hey, you are what you eat.
100%.
Oh, shit.
Let's go.
Cheese up, dog.
But suya is the best food.
It's my favorite food on the planet because also I've had it in America.
The best.
But you eat the goat, bro.
Yeah, you just got it right now.
You dumb Kelly.
You got no bars.
You got no bar.
No ball.
That's right.
You got no electricity.
You got no electricity because it took you fucking two minutes to get that fucking shit.
God damn.
Come on now.
Say it took three times.
Come on now.
Said it back, bro.
I'm gay.
I'm eating jokes slowly, too, but you said it back twice.
Hold up.
Still loading.
You Are What You Eat00:04:27
Shout out to Central C, bro.
This guy is.
You on my roller.
I got a Christmas.
Put it on your pink shit.
Yeah, but this is nice.
Put that on your thumb.
Wait, do we talk about watching?
Where's Blood Diamond?
Where's Blood Diamond when you need them?
Bro.
I have a Captain Mouse.
Look, that's me.
Yo, that's beautiful.
It caught my eye.
It just caught my eye.
I was like, oh shit.
Oh, this is.
Shout out to Halo.
African dude sold me that.
AP House.
What?
Brooklyn on the car?
No, no, no, no.
Now you gotta question it.
What's that?
AP House and Stan Flatiron on Canal Street.
I'm in that loop.
That's beautiful.
Yo, I need one.
I like this.
So when I got by, they were like, oh, don't ice it out.
If you ice it out.
Hell yeah, I'm gonna keep my connection.
If you ice it out, it would lose the value.
Exactly.
Well, I was like, I told you this earlier.
Remember, I hit you down.
You iced it out, bro.
Because I want to be.
No, he needed one.
I'm rapping.
That's why.
That's why he's rapping on a rap.
Y'all rapping.
But I hit you immediately.
We get you that.
Please.
Yeah, we got that.
So I'm going to do that.
I connected you with them.
I remember.
I connect you with the AP people.
You know all of this?
You know all about this?
But that's factory bezel.
Izzy.
That's Easter.
And Izzy, and he's bought one for his dad, too.
Exactly the same.
That's what I'll talk about.
Respect's good.
Respect.
My mom's birthday was on June 10th, which was Saturday.
Sunday.
Why are you laughing, son?
Why you laughing?
Well, you were saying factory bezel, then you said he got it for his dad, and all of a sudden you were like, oh, respect.
Factory?
No, you don't get it.
Not this.
It's okay.
He wears an Apple Wise.
That's good.
He wears an Apple Watch.
Yeah, factory bezel means it's worth it.
I got a necklace.
I got it iced out, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Same.
I don't know.
I just played videos on it.
You're talking about watching this.
So factory bezel means it retains its value.
Rolex, put the diamonds in it.
Yeah, not some dude on 47th Street.
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
So I bought one for my dad, but some dude on 47th Street put the diamonds on it.
No, no, no, it's not about the diamonds.
We don't do that.
We don't do that.
That shows in Beverly Hills or wherever, but it's about the sentiment.
So me and my dad now, we like twins.
My mom's birthday was on Saturday.
What'd you get her?
I'm going to get her a Rolex.
Fire, dude.
She doesn't know yet.
Don't know.
Breaking news, bro.
Breaking news.
What does she want?
What one is?
Because I know she's going to be picky after watching her observe lights.
Honestly, man, y'all striking was less than acceptable or whatever.
You need to get fired.
No, I'll get a meme.
We'll all be triplets.
I'll be honest, your parents seem like they're very difficult to impress.
When did you feel the first time you impressed them?
You know, it's funny, bro.
That dancing video, they reacted.
Yeah.
They were like, they were like, funny, yeah.
No, He was so good at dancing.
No, no, no, no.
Damn.
But before that, when I started, well, talent quest, when I pulled up to the conquest, when the video you guys saw, one of my, I think, deputy principals or deans, he like, he was like, have you ever seen him dance before?
And they're like, no, we haven't.
And it's like, oh, you're going to be impressed.
Like, literally.
And then they saw me did what I did.
They were happiest, whatever.
But if you're not a doctor, accountant, lawyer, engineer, you're what?
A failure.
Yeah.
But dancing impressed the fuck out of them, though.
Yeah.
They appreciate it now.
That's interesting that, like, because Akash, I imagine you've gone through the same thing.
And, like, Indian culture has this, very similar to Nigerian culture, where it's this pressure for success.
Yeah.
But there is this like appreciation of the arts.
Yeah.
Like, if you're nice at dancing, there's like or singing, but mainly for us, only the Indian stuff.
If you dance American, they're going to be like, I don't even understand.
But still, if you're a great singer, if you're a great dancer, there's an adaptive thing.
Bollywood is huge.
But we don't understand how big Bollywood is.
Even in Nigeria?
In Africa, it's huge.
Bro, I don't know if you know Daramvia.
No.
So we're not Bollywood movies on Sundays was the thing.
After church, we'd go home and watch it on TV.
Or I also had the VHSs I used to watch, but one of my favorite movies as a kid was a movie called Daramvia.
Shub?
I don't know that one.
Hey, thank God, bro.
What the fuck was that?
We have an Indian fact-checking.
He's a real Indian.
Yeah, that's what God says.
Bollywood Is Huge But We Don't Understand00:03:42
Yeah, he made me right, though.
He's coming here.
But like, yeah, Daram Via was one of my favorite movies.
It was a sword fighting movie, whatever.
But like, yeah, that was part of the culture.
And that was something that, like, as a kid, I remember just watching VHS over and over.
I should probably watch it again as an adult.
100%.
Just so I can be.
Because your life is a Bollywood movie, bro.
Yeah.
Is there a Bollywood star that you fuck with that you'd like to meet?
Let's put the question.
Slum Dog.
That shorty was a God.
My God.
My God.
Frida Pinto.
Try to think.
Frida, I'm the name.
I feel like I know the name.
And Dave Patel was the guy.
Dave Patel.
Yeah.
Oh, that was her.
They're all beautiful.
Look at you.
He's pretty, bro.
No.
He's one of the most handsome motherfuckers I've ever met.
Oh, thank you.
No, shit.
You don't fucking handsome dude, bro.
Thank you.
You watch a lucky woman.
Yo, she always says you're handsome, and I'm always like, chill.
That's mine.
I'm not even mad.
That's mine.
It's like a trifecta.
Keep going back and forth.
Share energy.
Yeah, why not?
Share energy, share dick, share pussy, whatever.
All right, calm down.
Calm down.
Find out.
He got chilled.
Yes, what are we doing?
Is that the 10-second rule?
No, no, it's a sig.
It's a sick.
It's just a sick.
Two sigs, two sigs, two sick.
No, but you can't have.
Oh, my bad.
I got that for battle.
Salah.
Hold on.
I got it.
I got it.
You got it.
Wait, is it sick or like drinking?
It's a sick, it's sick, it's sick.
Jeez.
No, that's a waste.
That's a waste for you.
That's a waste for you.
Waste my thing.
Waste my singing.
Do your thing.
Smoke up.
Smoke up.
Yo, the UFC lets y'all smoke weed, right?
Like, it doesn't matter.
I wanted to ask.
It depends.
You mentioned mushrooms a few times, so mushrooms is fine.
It's not a performance enhancer.
It is.
It's not a performance enhancement.
It enhances if you allow yourself, if you're fighting from up here, you got to put the work in.
So if most people are not just fighters, but like even like football players, I've seen guys talk about microdosing.
Because a football player was talking about it one time.
I saw it on Instagram.
It's talking about like, yeah, when he's again sports, he's like in the front.
Thank you.
Thanks.
Thanks, Mark.
Got you, baby.
You have competition.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Don't worry.
Hey, you should OG.
I'm saying, I'm bottom bitch, dog.
Bottom bitch.
The original game.
Enjoy these new hoes.
Enjoy these new hoes.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, fuck.
Happy Pride Month.
Yeah, Happy Pride Month.
Happy Pride Month.
We celebrate.
What a life, yo.
Yeah, what a life.
But we're here, but I'm saying we live performance enhancing mushroom.
There was a football player that was my friend.
You're talking about like, hey, when you're in that line thing.
Wait, who?
Adrian Foster?
Arian Foster.
Or Arian Foster?
My bad.
I just did a lot of the video.
Look at this.
You got a podcast on Barcelona.
Oh, it went over your head?
No idea.
Bro, bro.
I did Bob Star.
I did one boy.
What's his name?
Mustache?
Oh, Caleb, bro.
He's great.
Bro, he's the best.
He called me a rat.
He called me a rat.
It was good.
Wait, why?
I call Dove.
Wait, what?
That's different.
That's slightly different.
That's slightly different.
What's going on?
Galigali Joy!
I am Joy!
I'm Donnie Joy!
Crumping it!
Hey!
No, but wait, but catch one question?
Go, Miles, Miles.
Miles.
I was going to say Mark.
My bad.
Miles.
How long did you go for?
What?
How long look alike?
They all look alike.
I Did Bob Star And One Boy00:04:15
It's five.
Three hours.
I don't care.
No, no, no, we're not done.
He cut my hair for a reason.
No, I know.
Just separate yourself outside.
Fuck that red carpet.
I want to hang out.
We're trying to do blow O's.
You trying?
Do it again.
Okay, okay, okay.
Let me get a O. Let me get a O. Can you actually do it?
Yeah.
Come on.
Come on, bro.
How many dicks can fit in that?
How big?
Oh, come on.
Bigger, bigger.
Bigger.
That's impressive.
It's not diamond, but it's good.
It's Ruby.
It's Cubicle.
It's most of that right there.
Oh, wow.
What a life.
I wish.
I don't know.
I know.
There are people listening that know.
Are we live?
Yes.
Four years ago?
They know five years ago, like where we what has happened in all of our lives since then?
Like, think about all of our lives and how it's changed in the last five years.
Crazy.
And this is an awesome time to just chill and replace.
What a time to be alive.
What a fucking time.
What a life, bro.
That's the thing, even for me, when I'm like, sometimes there's been times when like, I'll be inspiring and I'll watch, like before, like warming up, everyone's warming up, and then, like the first time I did, it was during lockdown, so we quarantined at the gym when they allowed us New Zealand, and then this is before the cost of fight, and then I remember I was wrapping up and I looked around I saw my boys just wrapping up before Spark, because we're living at the gym, because lockdown, so we just locked down.
We had fights in Fire Island and I remember, looking around, I was like fuck, this is cool man, this is cool.
Like this is some fucking gladiator.
Everybody else is in their home.
Yeah, you guys are in a gym stand and then we was chilling, hanging out train chill, and then, just like I remember we're rapping.
I was just like fuck, this is cool man, like we're just badasses, you guys.
New Zealand was a very peculiar situation.
There was a horror movie that was filmed in New Zealand and I spoke to the director about it and he filmed two horror movies.
It was it was part of a trilogy.
Um no no no Dove, who was the guy's name.
Ah fuck, I forget this guy's name.
I spoke to him on the phone but uh, what was the lady?
You remember the guy's name, three part, oh yeah, Ty West.
Ty West came out there he was on.
So Ty West was on the last flight to New Zealand and he got to New Zealand he was there to film a horror movie, X And Pearl.
Well, he was there to film X right, and heard of these and no, and it Blew the fuck up.
The guy's brilliant.
Okay.
And while he was there, he hit up A24, which is a production company.
One of the people there was for your documentary.
They were there watching.
Yeah.
And he goes, You know, so much.
Bro, I'm out here.
I'm seeing who's there.
You know what I mean?
Like, I want to make sure you, come on, bro.
Thank you.
And he goes, and he was, and he hit up the production company.
He was like, listen, I know we're going to be locked down for a while.
Do you want me to film two movies out here?
Jesus.
And they ended up filming two because New Zealand was wide open.
So they filmed one there that was fire.
What is it called?
Pearl.
First one was Pearl or X. I'll tell you.
Anyway, but it was just New Zealand was this one place that was completely open.
You guys lived a life that was different than most of us.
For a while.
It was X and Pearl, and then the third one's going to come out.
Yeah, he's doing the third one.
Vaccine.
Yeah.
He's brilliant, this guy.
Ty West is brilliant.
I met these guys even out here as well.
The Raka Raka brothers.
Oh, I love those guys.
So, bro, no, but who loves them more?
He loves them more.
They've been making YouTube videos forever.
Like, they were obsessed with wrestlers.
They were using like real VFX for Star Wars or Harry Potter.
Naruto, wildly violent in a house.
It would trash.
And then all of a sudden, you just see that they got this deal for like a, they had a horror film in the middle.
With the hand, with the hand.
Yeah, I saw trailers.
Talk to me.
What's the movie called?
I just remember this guy.
Oh, talk to me.
Was that Sunday?
No, but the Rack and Rocket brothers.
It's Sunday.
It's got picked off.
But they're legit.
They're legit.
And my brother's a fan as well.
David.
David.
Talk to me.
Talk to me.
Because I didn't know who they were until he or Tim introduced me to them at the hotel.
And they are cool.
And they pitched something to me that I like.
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I won't say what it is.
No.
No.
This is the first time Ash has told you to talk on the whole podcast.
Now you can.
I think it's awesome.
So that's why I'm saying, like, you're talking about it.
I don't know if it's going to happen yet or not because of timing.
This is the same thing.
Bro, you being a villain or a hero in a fucking horror movie.
Insane.
Nah.
Nah, you see, you see.
That is good.
Wait a minute.
You're going to be the yesterday's price is not today's price.
No.
But nah, it's not even about that.
For me, it's about the moments and capturing.
But everything first is fighting.
I've already turned down, trust me, like, I think three major motion pictures because I had fights booked.
And I was like, I can't.
I'm not going to be that guy that just goes through acting and then loses what I'm doing with fighting.
You're not going to be Andrew?
Andrew Hoop?
Andrew Sculptor.
Oh, no, no.
Bro, I put my fighting career aside so I could be in you, people.
Bro, that was funny.
You in the gym?
Thank you.
It's all the same, bro.
It's all the same.
Same, same.
It's all the same.
It's two movies.
It's two movies.
It's not the same.
White Man Can't Jump at You People.
Oh, I haven't finished it.
I've watched it the first 10 minutes.
I will finish it.
It's an amazing movie.
Yeah, I will finish it.
But I watched you people.
That was funny.
That was really funny.
But yeah, for me, it's more about like, I just don't want to jeopardize my fighting career because I'm going to be a superstar.
After this, I can do whatever I want.
Motion capture, voiceovers.
I'll have my own production company.
Video games.
Let's go.
Yo, games.
Emotion capture.
Yo, games.
But that's why I don't, like, the whole 20-fight shit.
Like, cut it down to like five.
I'm saying.
Like, I'm already there.
Two is less than 20.
Say 20.
No, but I say 20 because that's like a ballpark figure.
Because I know how much me and Volk are the most active UFC fighters, not even champions.
But talk that shit, though.
Fighters.
Because a lot of people don't realize it.
Hey, you know what I'm saying?
And that's why I say when I'm done.
When I'm done, what he's done, they'll miss us.
Most people don't, they don't do it like us.
No, I'm being honest.
It was fucking out here.
Close to everybody.
With that in your reps.
That's what needs to go.
But everybody shit before.
There's a little line in the documentary where I think when you came in.
I was like, I'm in front of us.
You fought six times in the first year.
No, five, five, five.
They said six and a dollar.
I think it was.
They said six and a dock.
My first year in the USA, I fought five times in a year and one day.
That's insane.
They say, oh, you fought four times in a year.
I'm like, yeah, it's a year and one day.
I fought five times.
Shut up.
But that's unheard of for most people.
Some guys do it, but they're not the same level when you're a champion.
You know what I mean?
Talk that shit.
And keep going.
Keep going.
So when we're done.
That's all I'm talking about.
It's hard because a lot of guys even like, they don't pick the hardest guy.
They try and like hide.
I didn't have to fight Pereira.
I didn't have to fight Romero.
Costa, I wanted to fight.
But certain guys I just like, you know what?
No, you want to fuck it.
Yeah, because I want to like, I don't care if I win or lose.
It's more about just the experience and taking these guys' heads.
That's what it's about.
And like I said, in those moments where I'm sparring, I mean, this is for this not forever.
I'm going to do this shit for a little bit longer.
And when I'm done, I'm done.
So when I'm done, I'm done.
So, yeah, I enjoy it while I can.
And you should too.
You should enjoy it while I'm here.
When I'm done, people are so fickle, bro.
Their fans are fickle.
They don't even recognize that.
Yeah, bro.
Well, I don't expect them to.
That's why I don't try and please him anymore.
I'm just like, it's whatever.
There's one guy, bro, on the way here, bro.
This guy jumped out of his car.
And I see him at the hotel.
And they know where I'm at.
Now, he dropped out of the car.
He's just like, brother, can you sign?
I was like, bro, I just took a picture with you the other day.
He's like, yeah, but can you sign this?
I'm like, no.
And Ike was like, fuck off.
Like, telling the fucker, like, bro, I'm not going to reward stalking.
Yeah.
I just tweeted that.
I literally tweeted it right afterwards.
I said, I'm not going to reward stalking.
But it's just like, why are you?
He was, he drove from Ariel, was stalking us from there.
But I was like, I took a picture with you yesterday, but then you stalked me at Ariel.
And I know, like, they want me to sign these things.
I'm like, I know what you're doing.
I'm not stupid.
You're going to sign this shit.
And early on, I'll sign 20 shit for one person.
But eventually I realized, like, hang on.
Yeah, you just want to do it.
Yeah.
eBay.
You got to have some respect.
You saw Drake do that to that fan?
Drake did that.
He put him on game.
He put him on game.
Yeah, he was like, bro, take care of yourself.
Exactly.
Don't be doing this shit, being out here.
But he put him on game.
I did that actually recently on the way back from Puerto Rico.
So there was like black kids and this dude.
And then as I was walking through the airport, I just hear, oh, yo, stop it.
And he's like, yo, I got to get a photo.
I got to get a photo.
I was like, the fuck is that?
And then I was like, nah, fuck off.
And then like, his coach was trying to take a video.
And then Craig Joseph was like, what the fuck?
Put his phone down.
And then we'll win the line and then went to the shop chilling.
And they'll kind of like, you can feel the energy when someone's watching it.
And I remember like, hang on, this is a t-shirt.
I learned this from Jason Mamar.
Long story short, at the airport went out on the way to Miami.
I see him at the airport, New Zealand, da-da-da-da.
Well, they put these little two kids on game because they're trying to sneak a photo of him.
And he kind of like stand up, hand up straight.
So I learned from him and I was like, hey, kids, and I told my security chill.
I was like, hey, that's not how you ask for a photo.
If you want to ask for a photo, you say, hey, Israel, I'm a big fan.
Or, can I please get a photo?
You know, like, be respectful.
Have you?
I'm trying to sneak some shit.
Yeah, I got to get a photo.
I got to get, yo, oh, yo, I got to get a photo.
It's entitlement.
Thank you.
So I was like, and then all of them were standing right there.
I was like, and I put them on game.
I was like, so you have to, and I was like, who wants to say it?
And they were like, I was like, who wants to say it?
And they're like, oh, Israel, can I please get a photo?
I was like, thank you.
Who's got the best phone?
Give me a phone.
Boom.
Took a selfie.
And I was like, I shook all their hands.
I was like, please hold yourself to a higher standard.
You're a young black man doing your thing.
They're basketball players, apparently.
And I just said, like, just hold yourself to a higher standard.
Don't just go out here and be like, entitle like that.
But yeah, I just felt like, again, I'm not your hero.
I'm not your guru.
I'm not fucking perfect.
Look at me.
I'm tipsy right now.
But I just felt like just you can't be like that and think you're going to get what you want.
So the guy today that was stalking us, I'm not going to reward that.
I'm not going to roar someone just being a dick, you know, being entitled.
So the guy that was stalking us was like, nah, I'm not going to reward that at all.
I was like, nah, take a hike, take a hike.
Not only because it's inconvenient for you, but it's inconvenient for him.
Like, you're not treating yourself with respect if you're out here trying to get photos with everyone.
That's like some weird clout trout.
Also, you're trying to catch a lick.
That's the thing where it's, I think you can tell when someone is genuine, like when someone's like, oh my God, bro, I'm the biggest fan.
Like, can I please have a photo?
There's some appreciation you feel it for.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But when you can tell, someone is just trying to sell it or flip it or take your signature and throw that shit on.
I know what it is.
It took me a while to figure it out.
Because if I had a hotel where I used to stay there, I see them like outside.
Same people.
And even like in the mob, when I say no, they'll pass it on to someone else and they'll get me to sign it.
You know what I mean?
And then take the photo to authenticate that.
Yeah, bro.
The craziest thing is with the kids.
Oh, my God.
That's the craziest thing.
Now I should say no because I'm like, oh, can I take a photo?
Oh, can my kids?
I'm like, bro.
You using your kids?
A four-year-old daughter does not watch the UFC.
Why the fuck?
Because in the beginning, they'd like, I'll be holding a fucking crying kid.
And I'm like, this kid does not want to be here.
So now what I do now, I'm like, how are you?
What's your name?
If they can talk, if not, cool.
And if they want to take a photo, that's cool.
But then if they don't, then I'm like, I'm not going to fucking force your kids to take a photo.
So he can be or she can be a Trojan horse for you.
The worst is like, it's Trojan horse.
Boyfriend's a big fan.
Oh, my God.
I'm like, why don't you a fan?
You're watching it with him, right?
My boyfriend's a bit.
I'm like, yeah, why aren't you a fan?
Oh, I'm a big, just say you're a big fan.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then let's take a photo.
If I say no, I say no.
My body, my rules.
At this point, you're like, you've done it all.
You're at the top.
What is all?
What is all then?
I mean, like, dominating the business.
Yes, but there's more.
There's more.
What?
Yeah, so what?
That's what I want to know.
Just scalps, bro.
I got names to take.
In the game, oh, fuck.
Okay.
Yeah, just names.
Just names and things I want to do.
Examples.
No, just Rob.
I'm going to submit him if he wins.
Okay.
I'm going to submit him.
Is there like a thing that happened with Jordan where like you have to manifest the beef in order to get yourself up?
Yeah, like how do you push your fine?
Like Michael.
So Michael had to manifest.
I was saying Jordan Peterson.
I was like, what'd you do?
It's not right.
Not enough people are cleaning their rooms.
That was a good impression.
You thought that was him in your head.
You're like, no, I'm watching too much, bro.
You got some cop, man.
You got some cops.
Yeah, relax.
Jealous.
Hey, hey, thanks, man.
We can all share.
It's all good.
Fair enough.
But there's a little thing that you saw in the last dance documentary where like Jordan seemed to have to manifest these beefs.
Beefs.
Yeah, because it got him up.
And one of the greatest things about Jordan was that he was like, to quote Michael Irvin, 100%er, right?
Anytime I go out there, it's 100%.
So she had to Kobe as well.
And the greats, that's what they do.
So you have to manifest the furnace, right?
Find the little things.
I find a little example.
Costa, oh, skinny cloud.
That was easy, though.
Costa was easy.
He gave you everything you needed.
You know what I liked as well?
The fact that you said it, Dan said it, and someone else said it as well.
And then you were like, oh, bro, he's going to do this.
He's going to fuck him up.
Even in my last fight, Volk was like, bro, I was there the last week of his camp.
He's going to take him out in the third round.
And so when my friends believe in me.
Then it's it.
Like, I believe in myself so much, but like, when my friends believe in me, it adds that extra low on it.
But you still need people to not believe in you, it feels.
That's that's this many.
There's many of them.
So that's easy.
So during a fight week, I like venom.
I'll like sip a little bit of venom just because, like, you know, you get immune to it, and that fuels you a little bit.
Do you think Eugene does that to you to kind of rile you up?
Yeah, you know, you know, yeah.
Does he do that?
Yeah.
You know what he did yesterday that was really, I appreciate it.
Was like when the last thing is like, and I also have to say thank you.
Oof.
And then heavy, heavy, heavy.
He's like, to you.
I wasn't expecting that.
That was a big compliment.
He's getting choked up while he's there.
You know when he starts to get choked up?
Man, a few words.
Man, a few words.
So when he, no, normally when he gets choked up, it's during like before we say a prayer before we start warming up in the back.
Everyone in the circle, bow ahead, close your eyes.
Heavenly Father, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But sometimes some fights, he'll do this.
He'll be like, heavenly.
So when he on the mic, he was, I know he's getting choked up.
He's an emotional guy.
And also on the film, he got quite raw.
But yeah, so when he gave me that compliment at the end, even the key, he didn't want to come up, but I was just like...
You forced him up, yeah.
Because he's part of the movie.
He's part of my life story.
Yeah, your relationship there was really important.
Yeah, so when he did that, it was a big compliment coming from him.
I really appreciated that.
Also, him acknowledging the place in your life that he plays.
Like he goes, I'm not his father.
I'm not his friend.
I'm somewhere in between.
You know that.
But that's huge, right?
It's like all of us that have a father that we love, like, we don't need another father.
Yeah.
But we still want people that we can look up to and be inspired by and people to hold us to a different standard.
Yeah.
And like him recognizing that role, but also being there kind of as a friend as well.
Yeah.
Because your father.
Balance.
Exactly.
Exactly.
He has to know, but he knows me.
We've worked for so long.
He knows me.
He knows what makes me tick.
I wonder if he was.
There's moments in the doc where I'm like, oh, is he playing games?
Is he trying to like get the one when he was just like, he wouldn't admit this?
No, not that one.
The one where he kind of like laid into you fight week, where he was the one who was.
Oh, no, no, no.
So it wasn't, it was like, he called me a weak link.
But I wonder if it's like, you're taking.
He's using me as an example.
But I understood that.
And they would do that with Tim Duncan, too.
Do you know Greg Popovich was the coach of this?
I know Tim Duncan.
I know the name.
So Tim Duncan is arguably one of the greatest NBA players of all time.
And then Coach Greg Popovich is his coach.
And he's one of the greatest NBA coaches of all time.
You're doing the same thing to him?
Well, what he would do is he would rip apart Tim in front of the whole team.
And the whole team was like, oh, shit, if you're ripping apart the GOAT, I better stay in line because the GOAT.
And I know, everything, I know he does that.
It does that with me.
But the thing is, he had to pull him up a little bit because he's like, oh, you can't do it too much because he's human.
And eventually he has emotions and you're going to fucking crush him.
So Ash had to like, hey, chill.
What's the level to motivate?
That's what you got to figure out as a coach.
But thing is, I'm more mature now.
I know myself.
I know how to, I know what I need to do to win.
And that's the most important thing.
Fuck everything else.
Even if you lose, it's cool.
But you still win in certain aspects, but winning.
Because when you win in this game, you accelerate.
You climb up the ladder, all that stuff.
Blah, blah, blah.
More money, more notoriety, all that shit.
So yeah, I know what to do to win, but he still has to just like just make sure.
Like even before the last fight, like by the cage, you'll see him.
Because I never dap with my family, but I tapped into them because I felt so much love from the slap.
So I was like, ooh.
And Ash was there, dap Ash, my family, and so my dad, what?
And then he goes, when I dap all of them up, he goes, hey, just chill.
I'm like, I'm good.
I was like, you see me smile?
I'm like, no, I'm good.
I'm just high.
I'm just, you know, I'm ready.
But he still has to just be like play devil's advocate.
Better to say it just because in case, in case I'm over excited, I'm like, yeah, I don't want to fucking dude up.
Even Andre, Andre, my wrestling coach, shout out to him.
He even pulled me up.
He's like, I want you to, because he's the one who took the call off.
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So he came to my room at the Airbnb before the fight.
He's like, I like the energy of this.
I'm going to release you.
But I don't want you to go crazy.
And I was like, trust me, I'm not.
Don't worry.
I got this.
He's like, good.
And then we dap up.
Because before every fight, when we were in a fight or a table, we'll be like, he'll come through my room and then we'll just like go through some sequences on the wall.
He's my rest on the fence or whatever.
Because he's my wrestling coach.
And like, so when he came to my room in Miami, it was just like, I like the energy of this.
I don't want you to get crazy.
I was like, I got this.
But you have to, if you don't say it, and then I do it, and he's like, fuck, I wish I should have said it.
It's like, oh.
So that's why they do it.
But I'm glad they do because, I mean, yeah, look where we end up.
Question: This is going to be a little weird.
I like weird.
Just get weird.
Are you a God-fearing man?
Yes.
Okay.
So fighting is one of those things where it's like you can die.
Like, I don't think that's what I'm talking about.
People are like, oh, wait, you watch the documentary.
Yeah.
So it's like there's been conspiracies with Jake Paul where people are like, oh, he does some weird rituals before fights.
Really?
So like, yeah, I saw some fucking weird vitamins.
You deep in the YouTube.
Sometimes, you know, sometimes you jump in a fear of that.
But I'm like, do you ever try to tap into something else to that's a good question.
You know why?
So this last fight, Parera, I felt like he is very in touch with his culture spiritually.
So you see me at the Wayans.
I came with the Iruque, which is a chief staff.
It's made out of a horse tail.
I had a small one, but I did so as a, the idea is a prefix for king.
So I'm from a royal family.
My mom and my dad.
My granddad on my mom's side had three wives, my dad's side, I had two wives.
I probably have five.
We'll figure it out.
Starting five.
But I came with the Iruque because I wanted to tap into my culture.
That's why I said when I was microdosing, I was chilling.
I was able to tap into my primal side, my spirituality.
And I was like, I learned from him after New York because he was able to, like, I see the account.
I see little things he was doing.
I was like, oh, he's really in touch with his culture.
So I tapped into my roots, into my heritage.
I did my Googles.
I was like, let me know.
Because sometimes I feel like, not even sometimes, like not just black, but African history isn't told to its fullest.
Because before, fuck slavery, before that, we was Kangs.
That's a meme.
But we were rulers.
Like deep, deep, deep.
Some of the richest man on the planet in history.
Monte Rosa.
Exactly.
So, oh, you.
This guy.
Ah!
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
No, shout out to this one.
If you count coconuts as wealth or whatever, bro.
Nah, Bamo Coast got the cash, bro.
Shout out to Ollie, bro.
So I had to tap into my history a little bit.
And then, like, yeah, I took inspiration from that.
I did.
I'll share something later on.
Yeah.
But yeah, for me, I had to do this because it's not no juju or no, nothing weird.
I'm very spiritual.
And even recent.
Oh, I thought you were talking about duff when he says juju.
That's not a way to run.
He's really good.
We talk about the richest man in Africa.
Shout out to you.
I saw him.
Thanks, Goodwill.
Underrated by God.
He's not rich as Bess and Musa.
Juju, fuck, that's funny.
But go on, go on.
Fuck, I lost my train of thought.
But we're going to.
What are you talking about tapping into?
Yeah, spirituality.
This last fire really did.
That's why microdosing I was trying to tap into this, the primal self.
Are you going to continue that going forward?
Yeah.
Because I, success.
Yeah.
Yeah, I feel it.
But I ain't broke to try and fix it.
So, and again, even this camp, they were like, oh, he's going to try to wrestle us because he had so much success.
Bro, we thought we, I did think you were going to take that motherfucker down.
I can, and I held him down.
Whenever you want.
Yeah, exactly.
I did.
But I was like, nah, it's not even my ego.
I just knew I was a better striker.
It just got me because he's a good striker as well.
He is good.
I know.
I know.
And he does his basics really well.
But I was like, I'm great.
So I thought I was great.
Do you feel like the flow state is spiritual?
Ultimately, it's good.
I think it, yes.
I feel like science is like spirituality or magic we don't understand yet.
Because apparently the flow state, when you're in the zone, there's like five or six different chemicals in your brain that just, they're flowing and they're releasing at the same time dopamine, blah, whatever else.
But then, yeah, I feel it is because when I'm in it, I know it because dance and also when I do what I do, when I'm in it, like the best one I've done so far, I think the clean, not the cleanest one I've done so far is the cost of fight.
I was so in the zone.
I never even came out of it.
Like I said, CO in the fight recently, Tiffany Melopez, he was in the zone, pull out, in the zone, pull out, but he was in the zone.
I felt like the cost of fight was just in the zone the whole time.
I did not even like, it was not even an option.
I was just in the zone the whole time.
And how do you practice that?
Is that natural?
Or is that something that comes over time?
It just comes out, bro.
It's just reps.
But still, even freestyling is a skill.
Example, you're doing a move, you'll dance to a track, you might or might not know the track, and you hit like a certain beat or certain drop, and then the whole crowd goes crazy, and then you ride that wave because when they, it's a wave.
They give you energy.
Thank you.
It's a wave.
And you ride that wave.
And then your body just knows how to link it to something else that just makes sense and looks cool or feels cool to the music.
So when I fight, I feel that's an advantage because I'm able to like, I'm able to just ride that wave when the crowd hits on with a leg kick or even if I miss a question mark kick.
So guess what else?
Flow state is one of those things that a lot of people don't really understand because they most people don't access it.
And it's like, you told me one time we were hanging out and I used to do karate back in the day.
I did it for years.
Riding The Wave When The Crowd Hits00:06:18
And there was one time where I was like in a tournament where it's like I was, it was just weird.
Like I was fighting in a way that I never fought before.
And I just fucked everybody up.
I didn't even remember parts of it.
Yes.
And like you told me that.
No, that's it.
Yeah.
And I'm like, I think this, but there are times where it's like people access their flow state, whatever it is.
Like I think you guys access it on stage.
I saw my brother access the flow state.
Greg.
Shout out to Greg.
Shout out to Greg, man.
I saw Greg Schultz access flow state.
I told this story when we were interviewing his younger Russell Brand when we were in London, but I saw him access flow state when he was playing drums at, I believe it was the bitter end.
And it was like, I thought I was witnessing divine intervention.
I know it sounds crazy.
No, no, it's not.
It is.
But everybody in that room also felt that.
He started playing, and then everybody else was playing.
It was like a jam-band situation.
Everybody, bro, they stopped.
And he was playing by himself.
And the whole place was like, what the fuck's this?
What is going on?
After that, it's the vibe.
After that tournament, people's like, yo, what got into you?
I was like, I don't know.
You tell me?
Yeah.
That's exactly what it's about.
They've even talked about, oh, fuck.
We're going back to going, you know, the Gras Tyson.
Let's go.
Let's go.
For me, I feel like it's when you get to that state, it's almost like even now, this is an idea I've been messing with maybe the last two years.
It's like, actually, no, last year, I watched, I'll get back to this.
I watched this movie with no idea what the, I don't watch, I hate trailers.
They ruin movies.
Yes.
They ruin movies.
So I watched everything all at once at the same time.
And I had no idea what it was.
I didn't watch the trailer.
I didn't even know the title.
But as I was watching it, the movie was unfolding itself to me naturally, like unfolding itself.
And like, as it did, I was like, what the fuck?
Like, have you guys seen this?
Yeah.
Which movie?
Everything everywhere all at once.
You've seen it?
Yeah.
You've seen it?
Yeah.
Okay.
So the bit in the laundromat when he like started like hopping in on Jackie Chan, I was like, what the fuck's happening?
I was like, wait, this, her dad's just being fucking karate kid.
Yeah.
So if I watch the trailer, then I know the premise.
I know what it is.
Oh, he's tapped into that.
Metaverse, multi-verse, multiverse, or whatever.
That's why I love that movie.
It's such a great movie.
But I feel like sometimes it's because there's that whole theory of quantum physics, that multiverse.
When you're in the flow state, it's like you tap in the movie that you're like, if karate skills, they do that thing and then tap into that other.
Sometimes it's like that.
Okay.
So the cost of fight.
Actually, you know what?
Real quick to everything everywhere all at once or whatever that is.
What I took from that movie is that his fight was he.
Not her.
No, he.
His fight, which she realizes, is being kind in a world that is not kind.
Love wins.
And love wins.
Love wins.
And it is hard as hell to be nice to people and support people and love people in a world of people who are bitter and angry and will fight against that.
And she realizes that about her dad and she goes, whoa, it's way easier to go to the donut or the bagel or whatever, the hole.
It's way easier to be bitter.
It's way easier to criticize, way easier to be angry.
It's harder to be my dad, who's fucking nice to everybody, despite them being an asshole to him, right?
Like everybody's a jerk to him.
And he fucking takes it and he's still kind to them.
And then she goes, holy shit, that is a way better way of being a human.
And then she sees her dad instead of being a weak person as being the karate guy.
I think the wife sees her husband as that.
Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, the dad of the girl.
The girl's going towards the dome.
Yeah, yeah.
So, so the husband, who's the wife care, whatever.
And the wife's been shitting on him the whole movie.
But the daughter realizes it.
And I think the mom, but also is like, I thought that was the most beautiful thing.
Looking at life as a beautiful opportunity to be kind to these strangers who might even be an asshole to you is the harder, more martial art fighting version than easily going, the world sucks.
There's no point.
It's easy to quit.
It's mentality.
I'm a victim.
Fuck you.
Fuck life.
Life is more than nothing.
Cynicism is weakness, bro.
And to me, I remember watching that in the last 30 minutes going, what a profound.
It's beautiful.
What a profound way of looking at my favorite movie of last year.
I watched it first time, sober, second time, dosed up.
It opened like ideas for me.
And that's why I started to like, oh, I wonder, because, and I'll finish on this, because you got shows.
And also, I think I don't want to get too drunk.
You might have a premiere.
Yeah.
Nah, it's done.
But sorry, Chris.
Sorry, Chris.
I'd rather be here.
Oh, we'll see about the after party.
Yeah, yeah.
But the cost of fight, Fart Island, you'll see, even on documentary, you'll see there's a moment when I'm sitting down on a chair, you know, back with like a cool t-shirt on a chair.
And I was doing this.
I had my gray hoodie on.
Boom.
And I was doing this.
I had a nap.
I was getting my hands wrapped.
And as I was getting my hands wrapped, I was just like, could you afford it?
Well, I slept well.
Also, fucking hell.
Fight Island.
Why the fuck would you do Fat Island?
Why the fuck would they do Fat Island on a racetrack?
On a fucking racetrack at 2 a.m.
Call the fucking hotel, tell them, can you like, what the fuck is happening?
We have a like, this fight was Thursday.
I'm weighing in tomorrow.
After weighing, fucking, meow.
Yeah.
It's Friday.
Bro, I have to have a fight.
Like, why?
And then they're like, but apparently they're paying like 500K to track.
Those are the girls outside the hotel, bro.
That's not.
Yeah, but like for me, I was like, what the fuck?
So it wasn't even that I slept well.
I still made it happen.
But then when I was on the thing, I was just like, getting my hands wrapped.
You know, when you're just like, you're driving your dad, like, so I was like, oh, I got to stay awake.
But then I thought, no, listen to your buddy.
Listen to your buddy.
So then I had a nap.
I had a nap on the chair.
And then, wallahi, I don't know where I went.
There was some kind of like, you know, Lion King or Black Panther when he sees his dad.
That kind of scene.
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Remember who you are.
He goes, and something happened.
But I remember I woke up.
I felt like a sleeper agent.
I don't know if you know what that is, but I felt like I woke up and I was just like, I was in a different zone.
And I dapped all the boys up.
I was like, let's go.
Let's go.
I felt like I tapped into something else.
So that's why that fight happened.
You see, even before I walked out, I told you, she's like, I was like, believe in me.
I do.
I believe in you.
I was like, bet.
Because I say, I believe in myself, but when people I give a fuck about, believe in me.
It's a rap.
Done.
So I felt like a sleep agent.
I stayed in the zone and I did what I did.
But it's something that I'm messing with those ideas.
I'm messing with, because again, that's learning.
Still doing this.
I'm still learning.
I'm still young.
And yeah, I'm going to keep writing this story.
I'm going to keep writing this story.
Even after fighting, this story is still being written until I'm done.