Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh dissect Andrew Tate's hospitalization, debating whether it stems from a medical condition or an attack while analyzing his parasocial appeal. They critique Prince Harry's Nazi general Halloween costume and the broader tension between biological impulses and societal norms regarding gender dynamics. The hosts also review "Blackbird," discuss Gervonta Davis's knockout, and argue that cancel culture creates a pendulum swing toward extremism, advocating for empathetic disagreement over polarization. Ultimately, they suggest that defending figures like Tate often masks an inability to acknowledge problematic behavior due to deep-seated identity codependency. [Automatically generated summary]
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Finished The Whole Book00:02:28
I finished the book.
I was blessed though.
I've been trying to do that for months.
Let me tell you something.
I finished that and I tried to buy a new book right afterwards.
Nice.
And Audible said no.
Wait, wait, wait.
Did you read a book or did you listen to a book?
You getting into the minutes.
You getting into the minus.
How many books you listen to?
Yeah, I finished the book.
I half-read.
How many books you listen to?
None.
Thank you.
I half-read books.
Yep.
Listen to a book that's not reading books.
Exactly.
Because I listen double.
You listen to two books?
No, I listen double fast.
That's a lot of listening.
Okay.
I listen to 2X.
Okay.
So he barely listens to people talking at 1X.
No, This is another thing I do.
I rewind it.
I take notes.
I got crazy notes.
I listen the fuck out of this book.
You can even argue I read it.
What book is saying?
Yes, you can.
Yes, you can.
What book is it?
Shub, what's the name of the book?
How do you not know that?
You listen to a whole book and it's not a name.
How do I do that book?
The art of storytelling.
Shub, what's the name of it?
The science of storytelling.
The science of storytelling.
How do you not know the name?
Indian nerdy.
It's the art of storytelling.
That's what it is.
Okay.
No.
Science and storytelling, William Store.
Great book.
Really interesting.
Finished the fuck out of it.
Tried to buy another one on Audible.
First of all, Jeff Bezos, you should be embarrassed with your company, Audible.
I sign up.
I got a subscription.
I almost called it a prescription.
I got a subscription to Audible.
Okay?
I buy my first book, The Science of Storytelling.
Yeah.
Blaze through it.
I got the marathon icon.
None of y'all got that on your audio.
It's easy to look.
None of y'all got a marathon.
You just turn it on.
Yo, first of all, I'm talking to idiots who don't even read.
They can't read.
You don't even read.
You don't need to read.
As long as you get books.
Read it, change.
We finished books.
Read it, don't change.
As long as you don't push pause, the book will finish.
Yeah.
Reading up the joy.
Go to sleep, turn it on.
First of all, I never listen while I'm asleep.
Yeah, you can't.
I never listen while I'm asleep.
It's a boss.
I never once did that.
Not once.
I like to be focused because I'm taking my notes.
What are you doing while you're listening to your book?
I stare straight at the wall.
Just read.
I stare straight at the wall.
Just read it.
Because reading would make me sleepy, but the wall don't.
The wall keeps me wide awake.
Reading makes you sleepy.
Listening does not.
What did you learn from this book?
What did you learn from this book?
Everything.
That sounds like a guy who read nothing.
Everything.
He read nothing.
I learned everything.
I had an eventful week.
I read a whole book.
Okay.
I went to a Broadway play.
Buying Credits For Trash00:10:00
Okay.
Is that what you're calling the road?
I went to a Broadway musical and I went to the fucking rodeo.
I'm a...
That's culture.
I'm a Renaissance man.
I'm a legit Renaissance man.
There's a lot of very white things.
What do you think is white?
Yeah.
Who you think I can win the song on Broadway?
Fuck, boy?
Hamilton.
What'd you see?
Hamilton?
Michael Jackson, the music?
Oh, I wanted to see that.
You know what I'm saying?
Mad black people and they're forgiven.
We were forgiven.
Did they get up at intermission?
They're like, we've seen enough.
Not enough.
Downhill from here.
No, we was waiting for that moonwalk.
You think they was going to give us the moonwalk before intermission?
Stupid?
There's no way.
They almost did it and then they cut it off.
How is it?
It's trash, but it's amazing.
It's trash, but it's amazing.
It's hot track.
It's hot trash.
Yeah.
It's trash, but it's amazing.
Okay.
Okay.
It's like the story is garbage.
You know what I mean?
Like.
I don't know how you fuck up that story.
No, no, no, because they don't tell the story.
Okay.
You know what I mean?
And they got to make you feel bad for MJ.
And like the whole thing, the whole story is built around like whether or not MJ can afford the thing that launches him up in the air out of the bottom of the stage for one of his shows.
Oh, yeah.
And they're like, should we mortgage the Neverland Ranch?
And he's like, if we have to.
And it's the lowest stakes you ever see in your life.
But the music is so incredible.
And MJ, this is how amazing Michael Jackson is.
When someone's pretending to be Michael Jackson, you can't stop staring at that motherfucker.
I know it's not Michael Jackson.
Yeah.
The dude playing Michael Jackson.
Kills it.
There's a few different generations.
The final one, The Light Skin, is unbelievable.
They actually have different easy.
They got different colors.
They got different colors.
Let's camera, Afro, black, whatever, in the red jacket.
And then the final version.
Is he white?
He kind of look Indian, bro.
I think he's like Dominican or Indian.
Dead ass.
If he's Indian, I'm going to watch this shit.
I mean, if he's Indian, I'm going to watch it.
He looked like you and your wife together, bro.
The beauty of your wife and the man of you.
For real.
I literally was telling Emma.
I was telling Emma while I was watching.
I was like, holy shit, bro.
Like, that's a pretty ass Michael Jackson.
That looked like Akash and his wife together.
Like, he looked like Akash's cousin.
Yo, he did.
Now he's prettier than your cousin.
That's why I had to add your wife in there.
No, no, don't do that.
Don't be disrespectful.
Listen, with all due respect, your wife is prettier than your cousin.
My cousin, fine as fuck.
That's, I'm wrong.
I'm wrong.
Yeah, you're wrong.
I'm wrong.
What are you saying?
Son, that's so disrespectful to Akash's wife right now.
What are you saying?
What are you saying?
That's mad disrespectful.
He's not that pain.
He's a good-looking guy, but he's not like a guy.
He's pretty.
He's a good-looking guy, but not pretty.
He's way better.
My cousin's prettier.
You were seducing.
I was like, Akash, too.
I didn't say just Akash's wife.
I said Akash.
I'm bringing down the game.
The prettiness was his wife, and then the masculineness was.
You don't think that that could be Akash and his wife right there?
This is the power of music, bro.
This is the power of music.
You listen to this guy saying that.
You got one black and white picture.
Don't even show how Michael Jackson, that motherfucker, looked like pieces of money.
It doesn't matter if you're black or white.
That's Michael's whole thing.
Well, it did in my example.
Okay, listen.
I'm at this, bro.
We are singing.
We are dance.
We are loving this whole shit.
They keep on saying things.
They won't talk about the pedophilia shit.
They just keep on saying because there's this character who's like kind of interviewing to do a documentary about him throughout the thing.
And they go, you know, there's a lot of things being said, you know, like you're exhausted and you don't have money.
And then there are other rumors.
They never once exactly said good.
The whole audience knows exactly what's going on.
And then the new song drops.
Forget about all of it.
The story is absolute garbage.
The performances are absolutely amazing.
The actors are so talented, so fucking talented.
And then the Michael Jackson music is just.
This is the guy you think looks Indian?
Whoa.
He's kind of sitting like South Indian, bro.
Tell him about that.
Nah, bro, he looked different.
Soft album.
Nah, he looked different, bro.
Go get a picture of him actually in the show.
Now look to the right.
Now you're feeling it a little bit.
Look at that one.
Zoom in on that.
You could barely see his face, dog.
Well, that's what I saw.
So maybe I made that judgment after not seeing much of his face, Al.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, now y'all see a little Akash.
South Indian, bro.
I can see Indian.
I can see Indian.
Thank you.
I can see Indian.
I wasn't being bad.
No, no, no.
I can see Indian.
Bad.
Okay, you know it.
Saw this.
Okay, why are you mad at Audible?
I can't buy another book on that shit.
And I messaged Mark 3 o'clock in the morning.
Yeah.
First of all, I tried to buy another book for about an hour.
I even read it.
Say again.
What book?
It don't matter.
You don't remember the name?
I don't have enough credits.
Apparently, there's a social credit system.
I think this app made in fucking China.
You sign up for Audible.
I'm paying $15 a month.
You get one credit.
I get one credit.
Well, what if I'm a marathon fucking dude?
I'm crazy.
I'm playing you cheap.
There's no way to buy more credits.
I don't know what to do.
Sometimes it magically appears you can buy three more credits.
Hey, hey, hey.
What if I want to make it rain?
That's not true.
You know how I know?
Try to buy more credits on my house right now.
Try to buy more credits on my audible.
I got a plan that I never use.
It's like 15 credits a year, which is more than 100.
I'm going to get some credits.
Gladly.
I felt like Justin Timberlake in that movie where he run out of time.
I felt like I had to go and rob the credits.
I was about to go.
I was about to go to Oregon.
What?
And I was about to rob.
What a reference, dude.
There's a movie from like 13 years ago that no one saw.
I think it's falling out of time, really.
Who didn't see that movie?
I saw that in the theaters.
Did you really?
I saw that.
They paid the tickets.
Two for Justin Timberlake running outside.
I saw two from Justin Timberlake right last time.
You dressed up?
Oh, first of all, ask what?
Just put on my jeans outfit.
I'm a prisoner of the moment.
Yeah, you are a prisoner of the moment.
You know he showed up like broke.
Listen, I'm a prisoner of the moment.
I didn't know he did.
I did show up as in a jeans outfit for about time.
What's it called?
In time.
In time.
About time, fantastic movie.
I might have thought I was going to see that one.
No.
Sometimes you make a mistake.
That's a mix of money.
It's reasonable you would think Justin Timberlake is in a romantic comedy and not a sci-fi drama.
That's true.
Okay, but I was pleasantly surprised when I saw him in that.
Yep.
Okay.
All I'm trying to say is Michael Jackson, fire, audible.
I don't know how to buy another book.
If anybody in Audible is listening right now, please kill yourself with your stupid book.
No, don't say that.
Don't kill him.
You can't tell people to kill themselves.
And also, what do you think is more likely?
Amazon doesn't want your money or you don't know how to use your phone.
Oh, oh, Mark, can I say what you said back?
Son of a bitch.
Oh, no.
You're trying to throw me under the bus.
I never said this.
You try to throw me under the bus right now.
I was sick.
I was on Nyquil.
I was on Nyquil.
I don't know what I said.
Oh, yeah, Mark admits to being sick for the first time.
I got fucking sick this weekend, dude.
You know what?
This is the least sick I've heard you sound in years.
I know.
That's how I feel.
You sound way more sick every other time.
I know.
I got sick this weekend and I healed myself.
2.54 a.m., Al.
Out 2.54 a.m. after at least one hour of trying to buy credits, searching all over the internet and refusing to ask any of you young motherfuckers for advice.
I am so completely perplexed by this audible credit system.
Just let me buy my fucking books.
I truly don't get what is going on.
I want to pay them money and it won't allow me.
How is this a business run by Jeff Bezos?
Do you want to know the craziest part?
I was awake when I got these text messages at three in the morning.
So what?
Yeah, I was on like an Adderall Bench?
What the fuck?
I was ill.
I was ill.
I was coughing my lungs.
I looked at it and that's what made me go to sleep.
I read that text and I said, you know what?
It's not working.
I'm working on my phone anymore.
I'm going to go to sleep for the night.
This piece of garbage didn't message me to the next day.
He doesn't know what I'm up to.
He doesn't know the pain I'm going through.
Because I'm a voracious reader.
Why are you up at 243?
What are you doing to the voracious listening?
I'm a voracious.
Are you staring at the wall for no reason now?
Can I just be honest?
When I'm listening, someone reading.
When I'm listening, someone reading.
So I'm making someone read.
He's a reader.
No, he don't read every time.
He reads once and then you listen.
You keep the same energy with the blind?
You say that you're going to read a book?
I'm going to say, oh, you feeling books?
Oh.
No, because the boring letters.
So he's still putting the letters in the book.
He's feeling them.
They can also do audiobooks.
They're feeling with this.
They can do audiobooks.
They don't have to feel every book.
They're just blind.
They're not deaf.
No, but a blind person's listening to an audiobook.
He's not reading.
He's listening.
You would take that away from a blind person.
I don't take that away from that.
That's crazy.
What did God take away?
I didn't take away nothing to bring that God took away.
Really?
God?
God took away because it's a part of a plan.
I can't question God's plan.
Wow.
Hey, Logan Paul, don't question my faith.
Listen, listen, Mark don't have no faith in this shit right here.
He goes, this is what I hoped you were doing at 3 a.m.
Piece of shit.
Then he goes, I don't understand the credit system.
I tried once and then quit.
Can I tell you something?
I'm looking at Mark's text.
He didn't give you very many hahas.
You can tell from his ha.
It's ha, ha, H.
That was very in the way of care.
Because I knew he was concerned.
That's a dismissive, ha-ha.
Oh, you thought I was trying to be funny right here?
I was having an excessive.
That's his way of brushing it off.
He was so little.
He was pushed me off.
He just, that's his dismissive.
I was nervous laughing because I knew he was at the edge of his life.
I knew this was the end for him.
Then you would have said something like that.
So I was nervous laughing.
I was scared for him.
But can we just acknowledge that I was trying to change my life right now?
I was trying to become the reader that I've always known I can be.
And then I was stopped by a credit system.
But can someone explain to me this credit system?
Why can't I not just buy as many books as I want?
Are they afraid I'm going to read too much?
I think you can upgrade your plan.
Definitely buy more.
Upgrade my plan right now.
Upgrade my plan.
You're asking the least tech-savvy person in here.
Oh, now I see you copping.
Please.
Now I see excuses.
Yeah, that is an excuse, actually.
In you know the code, right?
Everybody, stop.
Mark, you've given away enough of the numbers in my life.
Say the code.
We don't need anything.
We don't need anything else.
Mark, stop giving away my fucking numbers.
Thank you.
Not like it was that you gave it away.
That was obviously someone else's.
Yeah, who would ever do it?
Okay.
All right, ready?
Go.
As much as I want you to do this, it's going to ruin the flow of the podcast, but it'll so be it.
Because you badly want to be what book do you even want to read?
I don't even know what you're saying.
I want to read Hero with a Thousand Faces.
What could that be about?
Learning From A Thriller00:02:26
Michael Jackson's documentary.
No, it's a book about storytelling.
Okay.
Yes.
How much more are you learning from each additional book that you're reading about storytelling?
It's just great.
Yeah, tell me one thing you learned.
I will say one thing.
Well, I will tell you a cool thing that I learned.
But I will say one thing that the Michael Jackson show did that was really cool is they positioned a lot more credits.
Thank you.
See?
Exactly.
They positioned Thriller as a metaphor for his relationship with his father.
And the song or the album?
The album, the song.
Okay.
And you know, the beast is.
Yeah, yeah.
And then.
It's close to midnight and all that.
Yeah.
And then, you know, obviously the beast is abusive.
The beast is trying to take advantage of the beast is trying to kill you.
And then what happens at the end of Thriller?
He becomes the beast.
The beast.
And in the show a little bit, you see that some of the treatment that his father projected on him, he starts to project on the people that are training to do the dancing.
And he doesn't want to give them breaks.
And he's pushing them really hard.
And he's sweet when he's doing it, but he got that from.
And I thought that that was a really cool metaphor, especially because Michael Jackson didn't even fucking write Thriller.
Like someone else wrote it, but projecting it on him and having it become like a part of his life, I thought was really cool.
I was like, okay, that was great.
Yeah.
And then what I looked for learned from the storytelling book was just cool journey, like even in The Godfather, how profound the final scene of The Godfather is.
Oh.
The first Godfather.
And we're all familiar with the movie, right?
Yeah, I mean, I think I know what you're going to say, but please say because it might be out of my life.
He talks a lot about like the finding your sacred flaw, right?
And the sacred flaw is the thing that you're trying to change.
And eventually what your character changes and becomes somebody different is the, or doesn't change.
It kills you, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Or it doesn't change at all.
And what Michael Corleone wants to be initially is he wants to be someone removed from the mafia, right?
And you see him wearing his army suit when you first see him at the wedding.
And he has his non-Italian wife.
And he is the goody two-shoes guy.
He's going to go be a politician.
And that's what he's trying to be.
And then throughout the movie, these chain of events cause him to be who he actually is, which is the next godfather.
And the final scene is he is his wife going, did you kill him?
Embracing Bull Riding00:15:45
Yeah.
Which was his sister's husband for being a snitch.
And he goes, no, I didn't.
She goes, did you kill him?
And he goes, fine, ask me.
I'll tell you the truth.
This is the only time you can ever ask me.
This is the only time you're going to ever ask me.
Ask me, I'll tell you the truth.
Remember, he was an honorable man, an upstanding man, an army man, right?
And then she goes, did you kill him?
He goes, no, I didn't kill him.
And she knows that he lied.
And he lied.
And now the character is fully switched.
He is no longer the honorable man.
He is the mafia man that he was always trying to avoid.
You know what's interesting thus far without ever admitting anything.
And it was like, show, don't tell.
That's the, what is it?
Oh, you got it?
Okay.
And it was just like a really cool thing.
Like, it's cool to watch me.
Thank you.
We'll see how many credits I get.
We'll see.
So what did you, what did you do?
I did a search, how to upgrade your Audible account, and then I followed the directions on the search results.
Just exactly like one, two, three.
Yeah, like exactly.
Believe it or not.
You made it a story.
Don't believe it.
He just called one of his cousins.
Code Google.
You just did it as easy as ABC.
How many credits does it read that I have now?
Just read it out loud, you fucking.
You have zero credits available.
So you just paid more money for nothing.
I should kick you in the side of your fucking head.
I don't believe this.
Unbelievable.
They used to let you donate credits, but I can't do that.
No, you can only donate books now.
Oh, but donate books to people.
Donate credits, right?
Yeah.
Isn't that crazy?
You just spent more money for nothing?
Yo, yo, yo.
That was crazy what you just did right there.
Oh my God.
Hold on.
Oh, I can donate a book.
Let's sign you up for a plus again.
Let's sign you up for something more.
You just keep on signing me up.
I'm already a plus.
The system is flawed.
It shouldn't be this hard to spend money.
Let's just acknowledge it.
Did you just buy shares?
I think you just buy the Amazon shares.
Yeah, I think.
Will you want TD Ameritrade?
What book do you want?
I'll download it and then send you a bunch of people.
How many Polish people does it take to buy a book on fucking?
I get you the book right now.
I got it for the living.
Anyway, let's go back to what we were talking about.
You got a sling of books?
No, I sling a book on it.
You look like a book drug dealer.
You just already know.
It's a stupid flawed app.
Just acknowledge we should just be able to buy as many as we want.
Yeah, I don't get the credit thing.
I think they're trying to get you on a subscription.
That's yeah.
Instead of being like, oh, buy one book one month and then read it over four months.
You're wrong.
That is it, but they're also avoiding Apple.
Apple takes 30% of any money that's spent on iOS.
So by you purchasing a credit.
A credit.
You're not buying the book.
They're doing it.
They're giving you the book.
That's really what it is.
Oh, that's cloud.
It's iOS.
Yeah, because when you buy anything on the Apple store, they're taking that piece.
You even download Spotify, they get a piece.
They just get a piece of everything.
Are you mad at Amazon or you mad at Apple?
I'm mad at Amazon.
Give them their fucking 30, bro.
You, Amazon, you get your web services money, right?
All our websites on your shit.
Would you pay the Piper?
Why don't you do it on your laptop?
You think he has a laptop?
You got a computer.
This guy's a cowboy.
This guy's a real fucking cowboy.
I am from, I ride bulls, bro.
He doesn't do cowboys.
I'm a prisoner in the middle.
I don't do computers.
And right now, my moment is bullriding.
Okay?
I hate that you think that's a cowboy hat.
I'm a prisoner of the moment.
I hate that you think that.
Mama comes in with a fuck up a door.
You look like a Bushwick bull rider.
Like you get together with your friends on a Thursday and you're riding the mechanical bull and you all fucking do your stupid bitch ass artisanal shots or whatever at the bar.
Karaoke.
And then you take the L-train.
Bushwick.
And then you take the L-train back home.
It fucking infuriates me.
Bro.
You got his cowboy boots, though.
I know.
I'm wallabies.
You can't do it.
At least come with some cowboy boots.
I did the best I fucking could.
Okay?
This is the best cowboy I could be.
Cowboys wear white corduroys.
Okay?
Remember where that cowboy was like, honey, where are my corduroys?
God damn it.
You don't think cowboys wear corduroy?
I got to go protect the town of my white corduroy.
Oh, my goodness.
Fuck all of y'all.
Okay?
I'm doing my best.
You look like Rango, that fucking frog.
Oh, my God.
This version of Toy Story would be so much better.
Wouldn't it?
If you were a Woody, but you're just super gay.
Yeah, hey, buds.
Listen.
Stop trying to make Disney cake, damn.
TG does the last.
I'm like, hey!
Y'all are assholes.
Y'all need to embrace bull riding, bro.
Y'all are jealous because you weren't at the PVR.
I've been bull riding.
I've been to see bull riding, bro.
You invited us to see me.
I grew up in Texas.
No, I grew up in Texas.
No, you didn't.
Okay?
You know, one thing, Texas, bro.
Stop it.
You're from India.
You know, India.
That's such a good point.
You grew up in Texas, but you chose up black.
Okay, so you said try to claim that.
That doesn't mean I haven't been.
You haven't been.
You never seen no bull riding.
This is really, this is the most important thing.
What happens in bull riding?
Go.
Yeah, you describe the end.
What happens in bull riding go?
I bet you don't know.
What's the story art?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Three best episodes.
What's the sacred flaw?
They're the sacred flaw.
The bull.
Say again?
Everybody's sacred flaw is the bull.
Is it?
Or is their sacred flaw the thought that they can control their surroundings?
Wow.
The riders think they can control their environment, but the reality is that they cannot control their environment.
Oh, my God.
The bull teaches them that.
And they have to submit to the bull.
Did you know that this hand right here can't touch the bull?
Bam, bam, bam, bam.
You didn't even know that.
I did not know that.
The motherfucker got disqualified.
And the guy goes, I was like, why the fuck you got to squatify?
He touched the bull.
I go, you can't touch the bull?
How crazy is that?
That's crazy.
Ride it.
Don't touch it.
One hand.
Whoa.
Boom.
Son.
I can't believe it.
Did they lasso the baby cat?
Did they lasso the baby the little calf?
Son, I didn't go to no pussy shit like you go to, bro.
They ain't got no baby cats.
You only saw half of it?
You only saw the bull riding?
You didn't even see the whole thing, bro.
Nah, you ain't even see the whole thing.
This is like going to be a bad thing.
They get like crazy the whole thing, though.
Like, these guys crazy.
Don't throw that in words.
No, we can.
We do.
Listen, listen, listen, listen.
For real, let me tell you something.
Lasso and all that shit.
You guys, you guys, you're bragging about going to an NBA game and you're bragging about the Asian lady that throw the bulls on her head.
Now, we saw the whole thing.
We just stayed.
You probably left early.
Yeah.
You probably left early to buy that bitch-ass hat.
I came there with the hat.
I got this shit.
Shout out to my boy Rahman Rambelo.
Ryan Rambelo.
Listen.
It's a beautiful hat.
This is Ryan.
It's a gorgeous hat.
It's just not a cowboy hat.
Yeah, that's a cat.
That's a cowboy hat.
That's a cow person hat, I think.
I'll be honest.
That's kind of trans.
It's a cow bay hat.
Yeah, that's a cow they hat.
This right here is the most straight.
I mean, it is the most straight.
That's all I'm saying.
I don't want that curvy.
That cowboy hat.
No, no, no, no.
That curvy shit, what they wear broke back down, that curvy shit.
That's how you know they're shit.
Because they were actual cowboys.
Say again?
Because they were actual cowboys.
No, but they're just y'all.
First of all, you're not invited to no PBR.
You're not invited to no PBR.
You're not invited to put it on PBR.
Listen.
Who's that?
You're biCuray.
You're by Curious George.
Curious George.
You're by Curious George.
Curious George is a monkey, bro.
No, that's the guy who's the owner or whatever.
Yeah, literally.
His name, Man Yellow Hat, bro.
He became a man.
Listen.
Just Pinocchio.
He looks like shots, too, don't they?
I look like all white cartoons.
If you look at all white cartoons, I look like every single one of them.
Every single one of them.
No, that was Dove.
Remember when his face was half and half?
Okay.
Look, here's the reality of the matter.
That bull riding shit, and I did go to see the PBR.
Shout out to the PBR, man.
Which is just bull riding.
He didn't go to a rodeo.
Yeah, they don't.
He doesn't do the rodeo.
He went to just the bull riding.
He doesn't understand.
He doesn't understand.
This guy knows nothing about it.
You grew up in Texas.
Don't even know what the PBRs.
So the PBR, professional bull riding.
The cream of the crop.
Oh, we couldn't figure that out.
Thank you.
You clearly didn't know.
You thought I was at the rodeo.
I'm not from PBR.
We have both.
Why would professional bull riding have other shit?
Ah, Pash, name three rodeo events besides bull riding.
The fucking lasso with the calf.
Wrong.
Yep.
Yes, it is.
That is an event.
That is wrong.
It's not called lassoing.
It's called roping.
You fucking.
It's Yankee.
Thank you.
Yo, you're a Yankee.
You sell out.
He's right.
It's called tie-down roping.
It's called Roping.
Another one?
I don't know another one.
Yeah, what do you say?
He's an awful lot of.
Oh, Barrel, there's Barrel Chase.
And then this, I'm not going to sound very, I'm going to sound like a big dork when I say this, but that's when I was like, oh, I'm more Hindu than I am Texan.
Because watching them rope up in little baby cows, I was like, I can't do this shit, dude.
I got to go to it.
I got to go, dude.
I can't do it.
I'm a little bitch about it.
But I was like, this fucked up, man.
I can't be here.
Well, they don't kill him, I don't think.
They just kind of time up.
Yeah, but it's fucked up to watch.
You wouldn't know because you didn't watch it.
But if you watch it, it's like, why y'all doing this, man?
A little baby cow trying to live, dude.
Bogan, boogan, poked his assless hot ass thing.
It just bothered me.
Wait till you see what they do.
I can do for it.
When they do the lambs.
You ever see what they do to the lambs?
That wouldn't bother me as much as a handbook.
But why?
It's a cow, dude.
Cow's sacred.
See?
Lamb.
Hey.
To me, I'm like, they're both just living their lives, you know, doing their thing.
Listen, both delicious.
Listen, yeah, we're gonna eat all these motherfuckers.
Look, the point is, this PBR, I'm not gonna lie, this was the craziest sporting event I've ever seen in real life.
Now, they invited you?
They were like, yo, come to it?
No, I just wanted to go.
Oh, really?
And then I hit them up.
And then, or Dove actually hit them up.
And then, no, for real, I had already, we already got tickets.
My wife's brother was like, yo, we got to go to the PBR.
And I was like, I didn't even know what the fuck the PBR was.
Obviously, I saw it or heard of it.
I remember that movie, Eight Seconds, when we were younger.
Remember that shit?
And then Dove hit him up.
And then we got to go to these like dirt suites and like you're just on a dirt.
But when you're up close and you're seeing a 2,000-pound bull and then like a five-foot four-inch Brazilian on top of it.
Because the Brazilians run this shit.
Really?
That's another thing.
Half of the dudes are Brazilian.
And it's funny because when the announcers are doing the announcing, they don't give a fuck about the Brazilians, right?
They'll be like, you know, Joe Buck from the Great Hills of Montana.
Give it up for making bull riding great again.
Exactly.
And they're like Jose Gusto from Sao Paulo or some shit.
Anyway, from Texas.
On the great place.
I'm out of my fucking Mexicans from Brazil.
It was, it was fucking, it was unbelievable to see in person.
Truly unfucking real to see in person.
It's the craziest thing I ever seen.
I got to go right on the fucking things.
Yeah, I saw a video of you.
I saw that.
Did everyone see the bull stare right at Andrew's camera right before this poor guy's about to go eight seconds?
Yep.
You pissed off that bull.
I might have.
He looked right at the camera.
I might have.
I saw one dude get stomped out.
New York Nico posted a guy they got like stomped on.
Did you see that one?
Yep, posted that.
What happened to him?
He gets hurt.
They all hurt.
Bro, when you're in that, you get to, dude, when you're in that little cage, right?
The little cage before they open it up and the thing starts bucking, right?
So the rider goes on it.
And you have to understand the cage is like the size of the bull.
This couch is probably bigger than the cage.
So there's no room at all.
It's all made by steel.
The bull is 2,000 pounds.
If the bull just moves its weight a little bit to one side, your leg is caught between steel and bull and 2,000 pounds of pressure.
It's just leaning on it.
So all these guys are just constantly beaten up, constantly wrapped up.
Like they're all independent contractors.
They just show up.
If they make money, they make money.
If you win that thing, you get a belt buckle and $50,000.
How do you win?
Just staying on?
There's a round.
Everybody gets like a few tries.
And then the top 12 after that go to the final.
And then if you stay on for eight seconds, you're judged by how hard the bull bucks and how well you stay on.
So if the bull don't buck at all, you don't get that many points.
It's almost like diving where like...
That's not fair.
What do you mean?
Like, what if you just got a lazy bull?
Well, you choose the bull.
You choose the bull.
That's why these motherfuckers ain't playing around.
The dude who was in the lead after the first round, this guy named Bob Mitchell, right?
He's like 20 years old.
He got bucked off this bull.
He gets first choice of bull.
So he could choose the easiest bull he wants.
And he goes up there and he goes, and it ain't even like he's trying to sell the story or anything.
He just goes, I want the rematch.
Whoa.
And you're like, you could win $50,000.
It's going to change, obviously, your life in a significant way.
And he's like, I want to run it back with that motherfucker that bucked me off.
So there's like some real like machismo into it.
And it was so fucking cool.
He ended up getting like third place.
He got bucked off at the end.
Damn, but he went for it.
But he fucking went for it.
First place, get money.
Second place get money.
I think everybody does, but it's like almost like poker where it's sliding scale.
But the majority is that first.
And like, it ain't that much money where like these guys are in it because they're fucking in it.
They're getting banged up every single time.
Like, what were the other people like that were there?
Like the people in the stands?
Yeah.
Well, there's they, they're, they're the rodeo clown.
I don't even know if it was right to call him a clown or not, but he is wearing clown makeup.
Yeah.
But like he's the host and he's in the crowd doing crowd work.
They're doing music cues.
Like he's fucking entertaining the whole show.
He's like, it was really cool to see.
So you got sold out Madison Square Garden and he's doing his bits in between these people trying to jump on a bull and ride it.
And what kind of bits?
Like there's music stuff.
He was flirting with some girl in the audience and I asked him, I was like, is this all like pre-planned?
Or he's like, honestly, once we start, it just goes.
And like, you know, they're doing some song stuff.
He was doing like a grease.
You know, I got chills.
They're multiplying with like a girl who is like kind of flirting with him from the crowd.
Like, I don't know.
They just created this awesome.
event and I want New Yorkers to get into it.
I want them to do the cosplay shit that I'm doing where it's like.
I mean, it would make everybody more money.
Like those guys, you think about, that's what I'm wondering.
What's the upside?
Maybe winning $50,000, however many events there are a year, even if you're really fucking good, that's like a couple hundred thousand.
Well, the winner of the whole thing gets a million.
Oh, the winner the whole year?
The whole year gets a million.
But you don't even get the million straight up.
You get $100,000 a year for 10 years.
So it's like, it's not that much money at the cost.
There's much less dangerous sports where you make nine figures.
Yep.
This sounds so stupid.
No.
I'm wondering what is the appeal for them because there's something that draws them to it.
They cowboys, bro.
They're legitimate.
They are.
This is what they call it.
That's the only thing I can think of.
It's a cultural thing that you're just not going to get.
Bro, I was talking to, there was this one dude, the black dude that was there.
There was two black dudes there.
There's a Ziegler and a Keisha.
I was talking to one of them, and he was kind of like Keisha.
That's a black name.
He was breaking it down.
And I was like, is this your, like, is this your passion?
Like, whatever.
He's like, to be honest, like, I want a horse ranch.
Eventually, I take this.
I do a horse.
I love horses.
I just kind of ended up being good at this.
And it's a crazy thing to find out.
Like, God forbid I'm good at it.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, that has a tough way to make a fucking living, my boy.
It's like.
Why do some of them have helmets?
So that's the other thing.
You have to wear a helmet if you're born after the 90s.
Oh, hilarious.
And that's the way they made the rule.
And this is why they made the rule like that.
I was talking to this guy, Matt, who was the host, and he goes, the guys that were born before that grew up their whole life doing it without a helmet.
And because of that, their balance is much different.
He goes, yo, a two-pound helmet changes everything on a bull.
He's basically like, you have to feel every, you ever hear about how like people talk about like F1 drivers where they can feel every part of the car, like what's pulling, what's pushing, where the overdraft is and all this stuff.
You watch that F1 show.
They're always saying exactly what's wrong with the cars they're driving.
Two and two.
You never know how they know.
And it's just they're like one with the car.
And that's the thing when you're with these bulls is like, you know exactly where your body needs to be.
And they say that those two pounds could mess it up.
And there was a dude who was riding it and headbutts the fucking bull and his lip explodes.
Brazilian guy.
Like it.
No helmet.
No helmet.
And he's allowed to because he was born before the 90s.
That's so funny.
It was like them hockey players.
Remember back in the day, like when helmets were introduced for hockey players and some of the old school dudes weren't doing it?
Oh, that's so funny.
They still do that with face masks and hockey now.
Yep, exactly.
Yeah.
Hanging With Bulls00:02:42
But it was just like, it was a crazy thing to see live.
And was it New Yorkers there or was it like people from like upstate comes as well?
I was wondering because I went out one day this week and I saw so many cowboy hats and I was like, oh, yeah.
Is this like a trend going on?
Yeah, it's just, that's what I want.
I want to turn this weekend into.
I don't know what's going on.
I want to turn this weekend into like New York is like, you know, Fleet Week when everybody's all about the Navy and shit.
I wish for a weekend, everybody in New York just is Halloween, but with country shit.
Cowboys.
Exactly.
You get the biggest country singers.
They do their fucking concerts at Giant Stadium.
Everybody goes to one of the days of the PBR.
Like just the whole country embraces it.
Bro, these dudes, they were saying hi to my wife.
They take their hat off to say hi.
This is so cheap.
This is so fire, bro.
Below key, I was like, yo, cut that shit out.
Being too polite to my wife.
But this move right here, like...
That shit is sexy, dude.
Because when they say it to the dude, they go, how you doing?
And then they go, yeah, they do it the left hand, ma'am.
It's fire.
Or, like, when they pray, they do national anthem.
They told you, they tell you, take your hat.
They go, they go, gentlemen, make sure you remove your hats, remove your shade, or remove your something, remove your cover.
They call it, yeah, yeah.
And it was this cool baseball has this where, like, there's cool culture built into baseball outside of the sport itself.
The fun, the most fun part about baseball is when they're pranking each other in the dugout, and there's all these cool like things that you're not allowed to flip your bat because that's insulting.
Like, there's all this cool culture built into this sport that's been around forever, and it's basically dudes hanging out.
And when dudes hang out, it's fun.
These are all dudes, cowboys, hanging out.
The problem with baseball is it's not one, it's not one time a year it comes to your city, and then you go cosplay and then make the money.
Like, as annoying as you are, and all the New Yorkers would be if they did that, it makes them money.
And God bless, you need the money.
And when you look at like the popularity of like Yellowstone and like 1893, 1923, there's so many more people that are even like have their mind open to this lifestyle.
Yeah, so which has been uh presented in a very like romantic way, even though it's authentic, is romantic, right?
And it's like you saw, I even asked the people, I was like, Has it been different since Yellowstone?
And the lady was like, Oh, yeah, really?
She was like, Oh, yeah, a noticeable difference.
That's crazy.
Yeah, is there straight-up bull riding in Yellowstone?
I mean, I think it's just cowboy.
It's just Calwestern like ranch life on the ranch handling the bulls, right?
Right, because that's what the ranch essentially does.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And uh, but it was the first time I ever did it, complete like different cultural experience to me.
Awesome to see it in MSG, and like it was so entertaining.
You know, it'd be good publicity for it talking about a podcast.
You jump on a bull.
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Oh, never, but even just a little one.
You can choose your bull.
Nope, you can choose it.
Don't need it.
One of those things I don't need.
What about a horse?
Nope.
A horse wouldn't even ride a horse.
No, no, I'll ride a horse.
I've been ridden a horse.
Okay, but I'm not going to do the bounce and shit.
What if a horse jumps over a barrel or something?
No.
You wouldn't even be on a horse that jumps.
No, you don't got to do anything.
Just hold on.
So that's Superman.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
You're too young to know this.
The first time you played Superman, Christopher Reeves, horse riding accident, paralyzed.
Horse riding?
Yeah.
Let's go ahead and laugh at this dead guy a little bit more, dude.
Well, he didn't die for a minute.
He got paralyzed.
No, but then he's dead now.
No, he came back.
I think you're thinking about the movie.
I think you think about the movie.
Superman cheese.
No, I was thinking about the movie.
Think about Superman 4.
Superman.
Where he gets very in the movie and then comes back.
But did he fall off the horse?
No, Mark.
He did it while riding.
So this is my movie.
Hey, Mark.
Don't fall off.
Hey, Mark.
Get paralyzed.
Hey, Mark.
Hey, Mark.
Superman.
Hey, Mark.
Mark, Superman got paralyzed when he was.
It was too many of those.
It just: if you don't fall off, then you don't get paralyzed and become Superman.
But he did the movie.
That's literally all you have to do to not become dead Superman is don't fall off.
Son, that's easy.
Yeah, yo, when you put it like that, someone should have told Superman that shit.
And it also would be good for the brand if you just do one little bull, a little guy where your feet can touch the ground and just don't fucking do that.
I would wrestle a bear before I did that.
You know how Khabib is always wrestling bears in videos from his childhood?
I would do that.
You would wrestle a bear before you just ride 100%.
Because I think I could do what Khabib does to a bear.
I feel what does he do?
Like, he wrestled.
Nah, we need to see this.
We need to see that.
I haven't seen him wrestle.
I could wrestle.
I've seen Khabib wrestle a bear.
I need to see Schultz wrestle a bear.
I could wrestle a bear, but I'm not going to do that with a bull.
That's crazy.
Would you be a rodeo clown?
Say again?
Would you be a rodeo clown?
I mean, he's close to it already.
What happened?
I'm showing Khabib wrestling.
I'm trying to pull up the video.
This is him wrestling a goddamn bear right here.
Oh, that's a cub.
No, he's going for it.
Can't call that old bear.
No, that's a little different.
Come on.
You can't call that a bear.
If I didn't see his head out, I think it was like an orangutan.
Yeah, here we go.
This is a bear.
No, I'm not doing that, though.
That's not Khabib.
Yeah, that guy.
He's real.
I'm not doing that.
That one?
Oh, shit.
That's real.
That's a bear.
No, I'm not doing that.
Come on.
That's not even a full-ass bear, dude.
That's what's crazy.
That's a little bear.
Son, he's sunning that motherfucker, bro.
I'll do this.
How is that better?
I'll do a littler bear.
No, that's a bear.
I'm not doing that.
Bro, the white people are crazy.
Why did I do this shit?
So why?
The bear's biting him softly.
This is like a game.
Why wouldn't the bear just rip his fucking head?
Yeah, that was a lot.
That was a lot.
Hey, oh, this shit.
Oh, no, these motherfuckers, bro.
Now that's fire.
Have you seen the video of the girl who like pounds her chest at the zoo in front of a gorilla and then the gorilla pounds on the glass and then cracks it or something like that?
Yeah.
These guys are not to be played with.
Bear versus gorilla.
That's a hell of a fight.
I think I take a bear, but a gorilla is a bad motherfucker.
I gotta take gorilla, bro.
So much faster, bro.
Gorilla would just like go for 30 miles in canon.
What kind of bear are you talking?
What kind of bear you talking?
Whatever the big bear is, the black bear, the Kodiak.
Grizzly?
Yeah.
I think Gorilla got a grizzly.
Polar bear would fuck up anything.
Yeah.
Weighs way more.
Yeah, but like I think I think a gorilla is more agile.
It'll be able to get around a bear way quicker.
Claws weighs more, probably bites harder.
They got more weapons for sure.
And yeah, the claws are going to fuck you up, but like the teeth on a gorilla.
I'm the only person team gorilla on this.
I mean, gorilla is more intelligent.
Because I think gorilla is one shit.
Way more intelligent.
It'd be able to maneuver around its eye, like fucking put a fucking finger in his asshole.
Yeah.
You can do anything.
No, that's facts.
Yeah.
That's facts.
That's facts.
Let's go.
That was my weekends.
It was a great fucking time.
I think everybody should go check out PBR.
I mean that.
And they're not even paying me nothing.
I just want to point that out.
I genuinely loved that fucking experience.
It was really cool.
If it's in your town, go check it out.
They did the national anthem.
They did.
Two girls sang it.
Everyone got fired up.
It was good.
It was solid.
I ain't going to lie.
It was solid.
Ain't nobody kneeling it there.
Not a lot of kneeling.
No.
Not a lot of kneeling.
Are we still doing a kneeling?
I don't know.
I feel like we're over that.
I think it'll come back.
Yeah, that's.
I think it'll be a resurgence of kneeling.
Over The Kneeling Trend00:14:47
But I know when I went, I made sure they saw me singing the national anthem.
Don't get it twisted up.
Have you ever seen a fucking military flyover where they do the jets to fly?
That's fire.
I see fire.
That shit.
That bird is incredible.
Unbelievable.
Yeah.
Dude, I actually, so there was one that happened like 10 years ago.
I saw one at NASCAR.
That was fire.
They did one 10 years ago where a pilot got fired because he flew way too low and he cleared the top of the stadium by like 10 feet.
Holy shit.
And he led the whole thing.
So it was like him and five of the jets, the whole thing.
At the end of the national anthem, home of the brave, boom, giant jet.
And they cleared it, but then he lost his wings for it.
You should go to Long Beach on Memorial Day.
They do it every year.
Same thing?
Yeah.
Kind of fire.
They find like all these tricks and the loop-de-loops and shit.
In the new jets or the old jets?
Every jet, like every plane has a jet expert.
Like a demo.
I just say top gun maverick.
I don't want to see the propeller, yo.
No, no, no.
No, it's not a propeller, dude.
That's not a, that's a plane.
It does loop-de-loops and all that.
See, it's a big sports.
That's not a plane.
That's a helicopter.
You think you see it in a crock duster?
Like messages in the air and stuff.
Yeah, I don't want that.
That was gonna be the Red Baron, dog?
That was gonna be sick.
Yeah, I thought it was gonna be Dev Baron.
I don't want to see that.
But that could be what's in Long Beach.
I kind of feel like this is deadline.
I think that's what you saw, bro.
Every plane.
Colors or no?
Nah.
Do you know about planes enough?
Probably not.
I'm like, why is that subway in the sky?
Why?
What the fuck is that?
I don't know.
My voice really changed in that moment.
You're a cowboy.
Why is that Subway in the sky?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Guys?
Yeah.
Did anything eventful happen to you guys this weekend?
Nah, bro.
I did shows.
It was good to be back out there, though.
Back in the clubs.
Good bits.
Yeah, I got sick.
I was watching a murder documentary with my sweet wife.
Which one?
So I just watched the interrogation footage on YouTube.
Every time I get sick, I just watch interrogation footage.
So it'll be like a guy just like killed a bunch of people randomly, and then they bring him in and like they set up the whole case and they're like, okay, this guy, he got caught doing this thing.
He's super fucked up, blah, blah.
They caught him like this.
He tried to run away.
And now he's sitting down with the detective for the first time.
And he's trying to plead innocence.
And it's just two hours of him trying to like convince the guy he's innocent.
And it's the most entertaining thing on YouTube.
That sounds amazing.
It's fucking unbelievable.
That also reminds me, I started a show I think you guys would like.
It's called Blackbird.
It's on Apple TV.
It's a true story, based on a true story, of a guy who is like a good-looking, charismatic drug dealer in Chicago, gets arrested, pleads because he says he's going to get five years.
He actually gets 10 years.
So he's in like a prison, and he's doing pretty well in prison in terms of like prison life.
And then there's another serial killer in another state.
They killed like 15 or 16 girls, I think.
But they can't, they can only tie him to one body.
They need to tie him to more.
So they go to the guy, the drug dealer, and they go, look, everybody seems to love you.
You seem very easy to talk to for whatever reason.
You're doing really well in prison.
It seems like this is your whole life.
So what we're going to do is if you go to that prison and can convince that guy to tell you where some of the bodies are, we're going to let you go free.
But we can't protect you when you go there.
This is a bad fucking prison.
This is psychopaths.
This is murderers.
This is a rough place.
And if you get in a fight, having to protect yourself and you get in trouble and they add years to your sentence, we can't help you.
Deals off the table.
So this is based on a true story of this guy having to go there and convince this serial killer to make friends with him and then tell him where the body is.
I'm halfway through it.
It's really fucking good.
The guy who plays it, I think his name is Paul Walter Hauser, the guy who plays the serial killer is fucking incredible.
The other guy's really good too.
He's in, have you seen the movie The Kingsman?
English dude.
He's really good in this.
Yeah, Egerton or something, right?
He's great.
The white boy from that movie?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, who plays from Jewel.
Paul Walter Hauser is the guy who plays the Serial Claire and he's fucking incredible.
That sounds sick, actually.
Story sounds like a fire, dude.
Again, I'm almost like three episodes in, but you should watch it.
Way better than your shit.
What?
Just the way you said it.
You're like, story sounds great.
I mean, it's great.
What do you think is sacred flaws?
What do you think is sacred flaws?
That's the story doctor.
The story ID.
What do you think is this passes your test?
Is like a good story?
Yeah, we're about to find out right now.
Okay.
Yo, it might be love for his father.
Yeah, yeah.
Because he gets into drug dealing to help his dad who needs help.
And I haven't gotten to the part where they tell the whole story, but it's pretty clear.
It's a big tool used to make him more likable, even though he does something nefarious.
No, because like you said, we don't really hate drug dealers.
Like that's not, and they're going that you're getting somebody much worse.
So you're not that unlikable.
And apparently the guy was like a badass athlete, very smart kid, had D1 offers.
Wow.
But he had to sell, he just started selling drugs.
And maybe he needed it, but sacred flaw.
His dad said, you know, I never wanted this for you.
And then he said, you know, I can never help you the way you needed if I didn't do this.
Oh, wow.
So his sacred flaw was his love for his father, huh?
Yeah.
Which I don't know if that appeals to you or not.
I don't know about you.
Yeah.
I've done something else.
He killed Angel Schultz.
Yeah.
Also, literally a prisoner.
I mean, I feel like this show is right on my house.
You can't be more of a prisoner at the moment than being in a prison for something you did.
In the moment.
In a moment.
10 years of moments.
Yeah.
That's 10 moments of years.
Okay, bro.
Okay.
That's kind of brutal.
They sound like a prison cowboy.
Yeah.
That's true.
My shoe with the documentary that I did, though, is I watched it and I watched five minutes of it, then fell asleep, and it was like super fucking brutal.
And my wife watched the whole thing.
And then I woke up in the last minute and I was like, oh, no, I missed it.
I just woke up and she's just staring at you.
Like, why did you make me watch?
How did you show that to your wife, dude?
Because I was like, oh, yeah, we both watched a little murder thing.
You know, it's like a YouTube series.
How crazy could it be?
And then it turned out to be really crazy.
It's real, dude.
It's not Netflix.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
You like broke into someone's apartment, killed them all, and she was like, oh, yeah.
And now, and then now she's kind of sick from my thing.
And I was like, well, I got to go.
And so she's just at the apartment alone, freaked out.
But, you know.
You're a piece of shit.
You know, someone's got to pay the bills.
You know what I mean?
We're all doing our part.
Everybody's playing their part, man.
We're all playing our part.
What about you, Al?
I was just getting work done.
Work done at the studio.
I started Harry Potter over, so I'm watching it from the beginning.
Up to the third one.
Yo, somebody read the books for fuck's sake.
Oh, now you want to read.
You're listening to autumn.
I'm listening to the movie while I watch it.
That's like the book.
You're doing an audio movie.
That's actually quicker.
I'm doing an audio movie.
Audio movies.
I was doing some audio visual movies.
These things are fucking unbelievable, dude.
That is true.
A lot of people like trying to do it.
You're reading audio visual movies.
Yeah, I should.
Mark just started reading audio visual movies.
Audio visual.
Do they have an audio version of your sweater?
That's what we need is a fucking audio version of that abomination.
I don't even know why.
That's funny.
How many people are in that stupid fucking sweater?
That's just Frankenstein.
For real.
That's just Frankenstein.
No, for real.
What's that?
And we never did you kill to put that thing together.
Dude, what a fucking awful outfit that is.
Holy hate.
That's hate.
That's hate.
It's not hate.
That's not hate.
I like the socks.
That's hate.
I like the socks.
Nah, but you know it's hate.
It's not hate, bro.
You know it's hate.
It is.
Just because you gave up.
It is hate to pick out the most insignificant thing.
Like, I like that.
So you don't seem like that.
That was my favorite part.
I know.
If he believed in everything else, he was like, damn, he's the only blue socks.
That bracelet fired, but the bracelet, all right.
That bracelet, all right.
But no, for real, let's go.
Am I trying to help you in the beginning too?
Pull up.
What you trying to help me, bro?
Pulled up your socks and pulled down your pants, try to, you know, make them.
You started it.
That was all.
This was trying to help.
This kind of Al looks like.
That's before we start.
What does Al look like?
Come on.
You see DDG's nephew when he becomes Emo?
Word?
No, let me see.
Come on, let's use some of your buttons, Al.
Come on, let's use some of your buttons.
Al dresses his little nephew up as all emo and then shows his parents.
And his parents are like, What the fuck?
Wanna kill my emo.
What the fuck?
I want to kill my grand.
And the whole family's like, what did you do to him?
That's what Al's dressed like right now.
They turn him into a white emo kit.
Are you emo right now?
Nah, he's not emo, bro.
Not yet.
Are you going through something?
Yeah, but not yet.
I'm on the way there yet.
This is crazy, bro.
This is on the way to emo.
This is you.
You dress like the alpinist.
Get out.
Alpinist.
Yeah, I get it.
No, no, no, no.
It was the actual nephew.
No, the kids.
That was kind of the French Canadian.
Yeah, yeah.
When you have to explain it, it's super fun.
It's like a super.
You do a fucking joke analysis all coming.
To his fucking joke analysis come back.
Oh, you're hating.
You're hating.
Just go along with it, motherfucker.
You got her now.
You got her now.
Damn.
Listen, listen, motherfucker.
It's an objectively horrible sweater.
It's objectively horrible.
Yo, I gotta shut up.
Nothing sex.
You got nothing that fits, bro.
You know, just get dude down one side.
Oh, my God.
Down one size, Akash.
Hey, you get everything gifted.
Just tell him one size smaller.
This is on you.
You go every single week, you go, yeah, I got a new thing from Shabbati Bobbity Bob or whatever.
Who the fuck gives you your shit?
Just, hey, anybody giving Akash clothes, one size down.
Anybody that Alex steals clothes from, just don't do it anymore.
I know Al got a stylist.
Stop working material out on him.
You do too.
Listen, New Joke Mondays is not Al's thing for the stop shit, okay?
Stop this shit.
I know they working shit out.
Why are you hating?
Because I got a stylist.
Your wife styles you and you still go to the bottom.
That's my leg's fault.
So we talked about the materials on the shirt.
So you can get your shits off.
Yo, one material per shirt.
It's one material per shirt.
Why'd you just go one side?
Get a size small.
Get a size material.
Get a size.
Get a size small.
One material perfect.
Size large.
He's 34.
That's not that long.
He's 6'2.
Whoever gives Akka's clothes, give me them shits.
Whoever gives Oscar's clothes, give me them shits first.
They might actually fit me.
How come basketball players have clothes that fit and you can't find one?
Because they're the smallest point guard in the league and you can't find pants that fit you.
You got two seasons for all the point guards in the league and you can get 45 different materials.
Come on, your shirt made of leftovers.
Shotgun closer to the bottom.
Your shirt made on the children.
All right, and we're back.
Kim Kardashian is a bona fide.
I don't know who's more unfit to be a parent.
Oh, yeah.
I saw you posted about her this weekend.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What was going on?
Kanye's been silent for a month.
Yeah.
He's not.
Which is what you want.
He's doing a lot better.
Yeah.
What you want when somebody is, you know, saying how great Hitler is and how he likes the Nazis and he likes all these people and who's clearly maybe in the middle of a mental episode, hopefully in the middle of a mental episode, not in the middle of trying to become a Nazi.
Right.
Been silent for a month.
And then Kim is like allowing her daughter to dress up as Kanye and then she's being herself and they're recreating like the bound to video or whatever like that.
Like does it not seem like you're instigating Kanye?
She is.
What the fuck is wrong with this woman?
Give pushback.
Okay.
It's her dad.
She loves her dad.
Don't put it online.
First of all, look like me.
I don't know what that's about.
Yeah.
Second of all, you don't need to do this publicly.
You don't need to put this on TikTok.
She looks a lot like you, man.
This girl looks like me.
I look like a girl.
A young girl.
That's what's happening.
That's funny.
But isn't this bad?
I mean, don't put it online.
Why do you need to put it online?
But she's on TikTok.
Like the young girl wants to do like a bunch of people.
They know TikTok with your dad.
Your dad's experiencing a really tough time right now.
And this might rile him up and make it more difficult for him.
That's good.
That's a tough time.
Consider your like, hey, let's consider your dad.
And like, because she likes to say in every single interview how great a parent she is and how she never lets them, you know, what's it called?
Bad mouth or she never badmouths their father or whatever like that.
Well, okay, well, if you care about her father, maybe say this might be hard for him to digest at this point.
What do you do when there's a mentally ill guy on the train?
He's like walking down, like acting all crazy.
Do you start making ducks at him?
You don't look at him.
You stare at the ground.
He passes by.
You don't exist in his world.
And now there's a mentally ill person running around the world and they're like provoking her.
Provoking him.
Ken's not mentally ill.
I'm just saying, like, this is.
I don't know if they know this is what they're doing.
It makes complete sense to me because who is her mom?
Yeah.
Right.
She's from her entire, you know, you become your parents.
Her parent literally pimped her out.
Hey, let's put out a sex tape with you on it.
We're going to build an entire empire off of exploiting our children.
I don't care about the collateral damage.
This is what it's going to be.
That's what she's doing.
And it's definitely not the kids' fault.
North, I don't think, had any idea.
No, it's a child.
The child is recreating her father that I'm sure she loves very much, which is an amazing, beautiful thing.
She can't, she doesn't even know what a Nazi is yet.
I mean, how old is the kid?
She's probably like eight.
I don't know.
I didn't know what Nazis were.
When you're eight?
But I heard people talk about Hitler when I was in like first grade.
My brother was talking about.
I was like, who is this guy?
What's what?
What a name, Hitler.
We're great.
We don't often talk about non-Indians in this house.
Who's Hitler?
Eight years old?
What grade is that?
Second, maybe third.
Yeah.
Yeah, dude.
I mean, okay, so she does know about that, Mark.
Still, I'm just saying.
She didn't make the fucking video.
If she does know what a Nazi is and she's making the video, he's not doing kids.
You would get recruited.
She's nine years old.
She's a youth, baby.
She's nine.
She's nine years old.
Yeah.
It's like she's a nine years old.
She's nine.
She doesn't know the repercussions of what she means.
Come on, dog.
Come on, dog.
I mean, this is, I mean, I just can't believe it.
I saw the video and I can't believe it's one thing if she did it by herself and uploaded and Kim didn't know what's going on.
Kim is in the video with her.
This is choreographed.
Is it possible Kim doesn't realize how provoking this is?
Is it possible she's a fucking idiot?
Maybe that's also possible.
Is it possible that she loves the drama associated with her husband?
Is it possible that she's trying to rile him?
Is it possible she's found a way to make us feel bad for Kanye?
Has she orchestrated a magical way where we're fine?
We're like, oh, God, I hope Kanye doesn't see this.
Like.
Yeah, I mean, I don't think anyone's actually going to feel bad for Kanye.
I'm not bad for Kanye.
I do.
I mean, it just does seem like a clear provocation.
I don't really know what the power is.
I feel bad for Kanye.
I feel bad for Kanye.
He's watching his daughter, who he has no access to, like, you're doing this.
I can't see this girl.
She's dressing as me.
She's a fucking hostage.
I can't see my daughter.
You can't see her based off his actions.
Bad Parenting On TikTok00:06:53
And now that's fine.
That's based on my action.
But now you're going to rub my face in it by putting my daughter on TikTok, which I've already adamantly spoken out against.
And for a guy with a lot of batshit, crazy views, this is a very logically sound view.
I don't want my nine-year-old.
Oh, I'm wild up.
I don't want my nine-year-old daughter on TikTok.
So now, not only are you going to take me from my kid, which maybe I deserve, but you're going to do this thing that we all know is horrendous, putting a nine-year-old girl with millions of eyeballs on her on TikTok in the same way that her mom got traumatized at an even younger age.
And you're going to just rub my face in it and I can't do shit about it.
Not to mention Kanye.
Even if those actions are my own fault, let me get hurt.
Don't hurt my kid.
He specifically doesn't want his kids on TikTok.
I felt it out.
I hear that.
The fire.
But like your point before, she is used to being pimped out by her mom.
This is her form of love.
Yeah.
They, attention is currency to them.
So she's in the video.
So to get her shit popping, because nobody's clicking on North shit without Kim in it, or more people will click because Kim's in it.
And you're going to now deny her daughter to express how she, her love and devotion to her dad.
Yes.
And make a TikTok video.
That's what being parenting is.
It's being better than the generation for you.
She's already on TikTok.
So now that she's on TikTok.
No, no, no.
I can take you off TikTok.
You're nine years old.
One of my kids already found my sex tape on Roblox.
Okay, so TikTok is the problem, not this video.
No.
Wait, are you saying are you saying that she should be in it to get her kid more views on TikTok?
No, no, no.
I think, yeah, I think Kim's in the video to get her kid more views.
This is the only form of good parenting or no?
No, no, no.
I'm saying that this video isn't that bad, even though, yes.
What you're saying is Kim is trying to build up her TikTok.
Yeah, but it, like, I'm sure this, Kanye's not happy about it, but I'm saying that I think the place and the attention for our North is like, hey, I love my dad.
I just want to show my dad.
How about this?
How about this, right?
North didn't do anything wrong.
No, no, no.
We're not saying the North.
Okay, well, how about this?
How about this, right?
I'm Kim Kardashian.
I say that Kanye cannot be around our children.
Right?
I'm also Kim Kardashian.
I'm allowing our daughter to dress up as Kanye, and I'm going to post a video on that app that Kanye hates that his daughter is on.
It's insensitive to Kanye.
Undeniably.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Not only is it insensitive, it's saying Kanye's going, my kids probably miss me.
Then he sees a video of his daughter dressed up as him, and he still can't access her.
He's going, damn, my daughter misses me so much.
She's dressing up, but she needs me in her life.
It's basically saying, you can't have her.
But you can't have her.
Yeah, I wasn't saying that shit when she was trying to be happy and Kanye's making death videos.
I will never defend Kim.
I'll never defend Kim.
Kim doesn't have, she doesn't owe Kanye shit.
No, no, no.
Kanye is fucked up.
We all know this.
Yeah.
And he was super fucked up to her.
But two people could be fucked up.
And just because someone's less fucked up than the other person doesn't mean what they're doing is good.
It just means it's less fucked up.
No, okay.
We all are in agreement that the kid shouldn't be on TikTok.
But the fact that she's allowing the kid to be on TikTok, I just don't think that this video is that bad.
Do you see the provocation of Kanye?
I don't think she cares.
And she shouldn't care about her.
How about Kanye?
I've fucked her over so many times.
How about this?
You got a baby mom.
You got to beat shit.
You got a baby mom.
You got a baby mama.
No, I'm going to be.
No, but imagine, right?
Like, we know.
So it's like, you and your wife, or you guys got a kid.
Okay.
Your wife takes your kid, says you're not allowed to see your kid at all.
Your kids post on TikTok as you.
This person you can't speak to can't be in their life at all.
Aren't you going to go and the mom is dancing in the video to your shit?
Aren't you going to be like, is this bitch sending shots at me?
Yes.
Like, and don't use my kid, our kid, as a pawn, even if you're upset at me.
First of all, I'm pretty sure she gets fucked up things in him too.
I'm pretty sure I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that.
According to him, she fucked Chris Paul while they were still together.
I'm pretty sure North wanted to do this.
I don't think Kim's like, yo, put on this makeup and do you think that they're the same, like, they have the same level of authority, the nine-year-old girl and her mom?
You're the mom.
Your job is not to upset your husband or whatever.
It's to constantly protect your child.
Do the best thing for your child.
And if you're going to do a shitty thing to your child and upset your ex-husband, who might be crazy, you think that's good parenting in any way, shape, or form?
Like I said, we're a little bit more.
She should have her kids take her to be TikTok.
Hey, JP Morton, take her money.
We just disagree on that.
This video is bad.
I think her being on TikTok in entirety is bad, but I just think this video isn't bad.
This is just her daughter wanting to show some love to her dad.
Like, that's what I see when I see this video.
I haven't watched a video because she looked too much like me.
Josh, do you want to see it?
No.
She looked like she don't even want to be in that fucking video.
Son, what the fuck?
She's a hostage.
What the fuck?
She didn't do anything.
That's how Kanye was in the video.
He was just stone-faced all the time.
But do you think it's good parenting or a bad parenting?
I think it's bad parenting that she's on TikTok.
But do you think making the video and provoking Kanye is bad parenting?
No, I don't.
I think Kim has not, she doesn't owe anything to Kanye.
No, she owes something to her kids, certainly.
Yeah, and I think the kid wants to do this.
And I think the kid gets enjoyment out of this.
You can be happy to do it.
But the kid wants to eat candy for dinner.
Do you think it's good parenting or a bad parent?
Now we're going back to being on TikTok.
No, no, no.
But does a good parent and a bad parent do the specific video?
Because this video, to me, is not good for the kid.
It's worse parenting.
I don't think, how's the kid affected?
The kid is acting as a proxy to her parents' divorce battle.
Nah, but the kid wants to do this.
The kid's like, oh, hey, she doesn't understand what's happening to her dad and what she's doing to her dad by doing this.
The Kurds want to attack whoever is in control in Iraq.
America gives them some weapons so they can attack them even better.
It puts the batter in their back, right?
Now you have a proxy war.
The kid's being used as a proxy for one parent to get at the other parent.
And that's bad parenting.
And so for that reason, Kim should say, hey, we can make the video, but we're not going to put it out because that is going to make your dad feel some type of way.
And I don't want to use you to make your dad feel like that.
And then making your dad feel like that actually might make him stay in this state that he's in longer, which will be longer time away from you.
Now, you could make the argument she's trying to do this on purpose to induce another fucking crazy reaction from Kanye and then get his rights to those kids completely stripped.
Let's make that motherfucker go crazy again and then we take it to the courts.
I want full custody.
This guy gets nothing.
Look, he's insane.
He's a Nazi and he just did this insane shit again trying to steal the kids.
That I would.
I would not put that past him, though.
Yeah, I would.
And that's fucked up.
And you know what Kanye should do in that case?
Fixing Insurance Costs00:05:14
Become trans.
Ooh, good transition.
Transition.
But no, if you go trans, according to this court in, I forget where this guy is, Ecuador, I think.
Yeah, El Salvador.
El Salvador.
Are you saying North is going trans right now?
I'm saying Connie needs to go trans.
I mean, technically, she's kind of in that state.
Oh, I thought this shit happened in California.
No, no, no, no.
El Salvador.
No, this happened in, I'm pulling up, Ecuador.
Yeah, it happened.
It happened in Ecuador.
Basically, this guy was trying to get custody of his kids, couldn't do it, legally changed his gender to become a woman, and then the courts were more lenient to him, and he was able to get access to his kids.
Wow.
Did he actually get access?
Yeah, he was able to get custody.
Oh, that's great.
That's great.
Yeah, because they're always going to give it to the mom.
And what he says is the actual mom was abusive.
Was abusive.
These kids are in an abusive household.
I haven't seen them in five months.
Ecuador is not going to give me custody to the kids as a man.
So I'm legally changing my gender to woman.
Everything else is the same.
I'm not doing no surgery.
I'm still dating the same.
I just am changing my legal status to a woman to get my kids back.
Yeah.
It's very funny.
He goes, he's like, I'm very sure of my gender.
I'm a mom now and I want my kids to be with their mom or some shit like that.
And it worked.
And there's another case, as I was researching this, there's another guy in Argentina that changed his gender to retire earlier because men and women have a different retirement age.
And then there's another guy, there's a dude like in Canada that changes gender to get cheaper car insurance because women get cheaper car insurance than men.
That's great.
Which is crazy.
That makes no difference.
But it's also, it does make because they're safer.
They drive safer.
The guys drive faster and whatever.
We'll drive drunk.
Drive faster cars, whatever.
We also drive more, I'm sure.
Probably.
Yeah.
But if you change your gender to woman, you get cheaper car insurance.
Wow.
So this is actually how you fix the whole thing.
All the gender inequalities will get exposed once people can count as flip-flop and be like, oh, I'll just pick that up.
Twist liberal logic into a knot, into such a pretzel that it's in the exact same place that it was when it started.
Yeah.
You just have to expose it where the insurance companies get involved.
And once the insurance companies stop playing around, nobody's going to play around.
Yeah.
So what do you think happens?
I think you just do exactly what Akash just said.
Just keep exposing the inequalities in it.
And then eventually you'll have to kind of have some rules where it's just like, okay, you feel like that.
So you get to be a feel-like guy.
But you're still a guy in terms of insurance.
Oh, you think they're going to keep it?
Or you don't think they'll just give everyone the same insurance?
Everyone gets charged like a man for insurance.
No, I think, I don't think that they make things equal.
I think they make things gender binary and then say you can identify whoever you want to identify, but this insurance is not oppressing you.
Nobody knows what your insurance is.
Nobody knows how you drive.
You're a woman, but you drive like a guy.
You drive like a guy.
You really do drive like a guy.
So yeah, I think that's what they said.
Maybe they'll be like, hey, hey, you ain't no guy until you get to get to surgery.
Getting put on, bro.
Yeah.
And even then.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't think they're going to do it.
Because at the end of the day, insurance just cares about the numbers.
So unless they start driving differently when they get their dick clipped.
Bro, what if trans people, they find out trans people get more car accidents?
What if they find that out somehow?
Where like you're going through hormone therapy, it's a traumatic time.
You just, for whatever reason, that little part of the population gets more car accidents.
They charge them more.
They charge them more.
I mean, they do that, right?
Yeah, that's what they do.
They charge you more if you got a red car.
Yeah.
So like they must be able to figure that out and be like, okay, trans men, like, what if you're getting punched with testosterone all the time?
You happen to drive faster?
You can't tell me that never been on testosterone your whole life and you get testosterone.
Yeah.
You're going to drive faster.
Yeah.
So it's like, okay, like women are here in terms of cost for insurance and also rights in America.
No, women are here for cost and then men and then trans men, we charge them the most.
That's kind of crazy.
And what is, yeah, what is the legality of that?
Because they're just going off the numbers, right?
The insurance shit is an algorithm, right?
They just plug it in.
This is how often you guys get into accents.
This is how much accents cost.
Okay, you got to pay this.
There's nothing emotional about it.
They charge men more, but like if they happen to find out that like Asian dudes are driving the fastest, they're not going to charge them more.
But that's what I find interesting because the color of your car matters, but not the color of your skin.
So literally, if you have a red car, they charge you more for insurance because they're like, people are more likely to break into red cars.
I thought it was easiest to spot for a cop if it's like speeding or whatever.
At least maybe that's the logic I retrofit.
I thought it was, I was told break in.
I just believe it, but I'd just be doing that shit.
Dude, drive red cars.
Maybe.
Yeah, I thought it was a correlation that people that drive red cars want to drive fast.
They want to red Ferrari.
Thank you for that.
That's right.
Car before the horse here.
I don't think they actually charge men more.
I think men are just charged more on average.
And people with red, they're not charging people with red cars more.
I'll shut the fuck up.
Isn't that the same thing?
I liked his little pun that he put in the beginning, which didn't get enough appreciation.
But I understand what you're saying.
It's like men overall pay more because we've been in some fucking accidents.
He loves horse jokes, bro.
The second a horse joke comes up.
He's like, I got that immediately.
I didn't.
I got that.
I mean, he bucked y'all off, but I stayed on for them eight seconds, my boy.
No, it was, I think that's what you're trying to say.
It's overall cost.
But I don't know if that's right.
I think they just straight up just charge men more.
Maybe.
Risky Boxing Fights00:15:50
But then that's the fucked up thing.
It's like this equality, like equality actually screws over a lot of companies when you think about it.
You know what I mean?
Like you're a security agency and you got to do security for like some Indian guy.
It's like, nobody's fucking shooting you.
No one's robbing you.
You know what I mean?
$25 a month.
I'll kind of watch you as you go into Google and then watch you as you go back home.
But it's like a security company for a gangster rapper, you got to charge them a premium because you're putting yourself, like especially in beef time.
Like if your security company is like, well, what was the latest diss track?
Who was the diss track against?
Put in all the data.
Oh, the diss track against this gang, this gang's super violent.
Nah, price going up.
This is going to be high stakes.
It shouldn't be the same price.
Yeah, that's interesting.
I think it's the same price.
Well, but these kids be like, you're black.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, they can't say that.
They got to be like, you are involved in gang violence and yada, yada, yada.
Yeah.
I mean, that's how it should be.
You can't just look at a black guy with no gang violence.
They're black.
But that's what they do with gender.
That's what I'm trying to say.
It's kind of fucked up because they do it with gender when it comes to cars.
At least that's what we're implying.
They just look at a woman and being like, all right.
Yeah.
You got a pussy.
This is how much you're.
The courts do it with fucking custody.
What a courts do it with custody.
What's funny about this is apparently a bunch of activists are upset at this dude in Ecuador and nobody's they're all ignoring the fact that there were kids getting abused and he saved them from being abused.
Oh, yeah.
They're like, how dare you pretend to be somebody else to save children?
Yeah.
Isn't that odd that they're just like, this is fucked up.
And nobody's like, yo, these poor kids were getting abused.
Yo, also, fighting for your kids is motherly, though.
It is motherly.
He might be a woman, yo.
Like, if you a dude, like, dudes out there for full custody, that's some girly ass shit.
Yeah, yeah.
Jake Paul's now doing MMA.
Brilliant.
Brilliant.
Kind of genius, right?
Brilliant.
Can he get Nate to do the fight?
Does he want Nate to do the fight?
Well, what he said is, Nate, he basically goes, Nate, I want to do a two-fight deal.
We do a boxing match first, and then we can rematch six months later in MMA.
Yeah.
Which is genius because you let him get his get back.
Yeah.
Now, you also let him get his get back, but you could also just retire at the first fight and be like, man, fuck you.
I'm out.
Which would be.
I'm not getting my fucking ass kicked.
I made my money.
The contract was stipulated, and there's no way he'd get paid out.
That's true.
There's no way you could get around that contract.
That's true.
He would say, yeah, in order to get the full payment or something.
Yeah, like you have to complete both, whatever, if someone forfeits due to injury, whatever.
Like, there's got to be a clause for that.
There's no way.
I mean, but I'm like, does he even want Nate?
Like, I can't imagine he beats Nate in just a full-on MMA.
Oh, MMA, there's no way.
But in the middle of the day.
And I think he gets fucked up, though.
Yeah, but he does the boxing match first.
It's not the same day.
No.
Six months later.
Six months.
So he has six months to train MMA.
I mean, there's no way.
Look, I don't know if there's any way, but that being said, he doesn't have to do the fight.
Like, there's no way.
That's my question.
Like, what is the hedge here?
So I think he takes him a boxing.
I think he can compete and probably beat him in boxing.
Yeah.
He goes to the fucking ground and they're grappling.
Like, or he just gets fucking pummeled in the head.
Like, I don't see how this ends well for him.
Yeah.
I don't see what the outcome of this that's positive.
And either he has to pull out of the fight and look like a coward, or he takes the fight and gets fucking his headbuster.
Yeah.
Or he thinks he can actually beat him, which maybe you can.
Like, I'm not the fucking going to bet against him.
Immense size over.
Huge.
Yeah.
I mean, Nate probably bulks up, but like, Nate was writing between 155 and 170.
And Jake is like a 200-pound guy that comes down a little bit.
So it's like that's a big difference.
Jiu-Jitsu, fucking all that shit.
So no, MMA, I think that, I think you give Nate the advantage.
I think if Jake was being honest, he'd be like, yeah, he absolutely has the advantage.
He'll have the advantage, but I don't think it's going to be a cake wall.
Yo, I mean, let's just keep it a buck right here.
It's going to be a cake wall.
If Jake.
50 pounds is huge.
If Jake connects, he still connects.
And now with the little gloves.
And Nate is a guy who likes to strike.
He doesn't go grab your legs when he does it.
He likes to stay.
I think he would grapple if he's fighting Jake.
I don't think he's going to try to strike with Jake, especially if he lost a boxing match already.
True.
True.
I thought maybe Jake was doing this because he knows not his skill, but his boxing career is more or less peaked in the sense that he's probably too far behind the true good boxers who've been doing it their whole lives to beat them.
And he can keep piecing up these MMA guys, but how many of them are going to be good fights that draw?
There's two left.
There's Nate and Connor.
Connor, I don't know if he's going to want to fight.
So I think he's thinking, obviously, wasn't he like a wrestling high school badass or something?
Who is that, Jake?
Jake?
He did wrestle in high school.
I think Logan was.
I don't know if he was good, but I think he thinks with my boxing being better than them, I can maybe get my wrestling up enough and probably have an ownership stake in the league to make a lot of money this way.
That's a boss move to do.
Yes.
And you're not going to get the best MMA fighters because they're going to UFC and then Bellator.
So you're going to get MMA fighters that aren't, I'm sure they're great, but they're like third tier, for lack of a better way to put it.
So he probably thinks, all right, it's going to be lesser competition, again, for lack of a better way to put it.
And there's not that many boxing fights left for me.
I can elevate this thing, have an ownership stake, cash out.
This could be his prime.
Yeah, I guess I'm just curious how much you can actually create another league to compete or another promotion to compete with UFC.
I don't know if he needs to promote to compete with UFC.
I just think he needs to cash out.
I don't think UFC is worth, God, a billion, billions of dollars.
Yeah.
I don't think he needs to be worth billions of dollars.
I think if he's paying fighters more than UFC is paying fighters, then fighters are going to be.
But then where does that capital come from?
Now he's in a whole different business.
Now he's not just like doing promotion and fighting.
He's like running and trying to run a league.
Or he just trusts the people that are running it and maybe they have capital he doesn't even know about.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I mean, at the end of the day with the fighters, like let's say, for example, Saudi Arabia says they want to do a competitive UFC, competitive league with UFC in the same way they did with golf.
And they just go, well, just pay everybody twice as much as the UFC.
They could do it.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, there's nothing like insanely proprietary about UFC that makes it.
The fighters want to make money.
Yeah.
And if you just pay them, the reality is, is that the unknown fighters in an unknown promotion don't make any money.
They just don't.
Like the promotion is what creates the eyeballs.
You know what I mean?
It's like what they like.
Look at boxers.
Like there are so many boxers out there that most people just don't know.
They can't hype themselves.
And if you have a promotional apparatus to hype up the fighters and amplify the ones that are already good at hyping themselves up, like we've seen guys who are really good at hyping themselves in the careers that they can build for themselves.
Like it's amazing.
Did you see that Davis Garcia fight?
Bro.
And to clarify, it's not Ryan Garcia.
There's a guy named Ramon Garcia, I think his name was.
That was, he's a good fighter.
He's a good fighter, that guy.
And I think he was coming up in wait to fight Gervante.
Gervante is son.
People will special, bro.
Yeah, people will talk about Gervante's power.
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And so, so the fucking... Gervante.
Yeah, Gervante, man.
For me, the power is obviously there.
But what was so great to see was the way that he closed distance.
His skill, his movement, like the way he's corners off and stuff.
He's like young Mayweather with power.
But he's so different than Mayweather.
Like the way that he was stalking.
Yeah, like for me at least, like so different.
Like the way that he was stalking and like entering the danger zone, entering the danger zone, getting a little closer, making it a little bit more uncomfortable.
Young Mayweather.
But what Mayweather would do is Mayweather made his bones usually as like a counter puncher.
So he would like bring on the attack, right?
And then what he was just so difficult to hit, and then he would counter in the most effective ways.
Whereas like Gervante will like bring on the attack himself, he was pushing the action.
And the other guy was good and caught him a few times.
There was a couple of times where Javante got caught and I was like, ooh, if that punch lands, like it was a great chess match.
It was like a really exciting high IQ fight.
Like a high IQ fight.
It was really and with action.
Usually you have IIQ, not a lot of action.
This was high IQ.
They're both trying to set each other up for counters.
So they're like, one guy's faking a jab to see if that guy will throw another punch so that he can throw another punch.
And that guy's waiting for that other punch to throw one on top of it.
So there was like these like three or four punch exchanges where each person was missing, but by like a fraction of a second.
It was like some shit you see in action movies.
You know, like a choreographed fight.
Not like that.
And that shit was great.
But yeah, Javante is special, man.
I'll be honest, I don't know Ryan Garcia that well.
Like I've seen a lot of his social media stuff, but I haven't seen a lot of his fights.
And outside of devastating power in that left hand that he has, he's like this incredibly powerful and fast left hook.
If Gervante can mitigate that, I don't see what Ryan can do to handle the skill set that Gervante has.
I mean, it's just like closing distance, hitting without getting hit, like putting you in uncomfortable angles and positions, like taking away your tools.
Incredible head movement.
Was it fair or did he just was it?
What round did it end?
Oh, it was a NAO in the 8th, I believe.
8th.
Okay, because he hit him so hard, the guy went blind in his right eye.
And not he hit him in the head, and then he said, like, my visual field, I just couldn't see.
Whoa.
And then he's like, I didn't know where I was.
It was, it was like a very honest, open combo afterwards.
It was pretty cool.
You rarely see fighters, like admit to that, in a fight where the guy was even on the scorecards to a lot of people.
I mean, on the scorecards there, I think they had Gervante up.
But like, I was watching it.
At that point, I was like, yeah, this is an even fight.
Javante was coming on.
So he actually put on like, he put on a good show.
And Gervante, what seems like he does is the first few rounds kind of feels you out.
That's similar to Floyd.
And that is, yeah.
That's where it might be.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, yeah.
I mean, look, there are definitely similarities to Floyd, but I think that because of the power that Gervante possesses, he's more comfortable being on the attack.
Where Floyd, as he went up in weight, didn't have that same knockout power.
So he was like, I'm going to win on points and I'm going to get like really on target shots, but they're not going to be, I'm just sitting here trying to crush you.
Where Javante knows is like, I can put myself in danger zone because if I connect.
Yeah.
And the guy fucking, Javante hits him and the guy said, I didn't know where I was.
Yeah.
Like, that's crazy.
Yeah.
And he's in the corner.
He's going, I can't see.
Like, he's confused by it.
It's like weirdly like vulnerable.
Like, there's something actually really charming about that.
I love, I love it.
I love it.
That's the one thing I don't like when fighters have egos after a fight.
I don't understand you got to sell your next one.
But one of my favorite things about boxers or just fighters in general is like after you lose, when the winner also has no ego, there's nothing to prove.
Like I just beat you.
You can't have an ego and I don't need to have one.
Yeah.
And it's really cool because you just see the good match, blah, blah.
Like even Connor, who's like the most masterful promoter, ego, everything, like when he knocked out Jose Aldo, he was going, I'm sorry, bro.
He said, I'm sorry.
Not sorry he knocked him out, but like, it's like, that's not how you got to go out.
You were undefeated for fucking nine years or some shit like that.
And then I hit you with a straight left.
Like, the first 10 seconds, like, yeah.
And he goes, I'm sorry.
We can run it back.
We can run it back.
That is, you never see Connor that humble.
Yeah.
But that's like a cool moment.
And that's the best time to be humble is in Victor.
It's weirdly because he's so much less humble in failure.
Like it's when he loses that he's talking like that.
Yeah.
Well, that's also where the insecurity comes out, right?
Yeah.
You know, you know, muffling that insecurity.
Yeah.
Speaking of Connor, what's up with his man, Dylan?
So I don't know what's going on with Dylan.
Dylan texted me the other night to hang and I was doing shows and then and I was like, what's going on?
What happened with this fight?
And then he literally just telling you guys, he just texted me now.
We'll talk about it live.
And it's like, Dylan has put himself in this weird position where it's like, it appears as if he's doing these, even accepting the fight as a way to get attention.
And I'm sure there's a way to maybe monetize that attention.
But now you're putting yourself in a situation where it's like, is everything for an attention?
And if everything is just for the attention, now you're manipulating me or like using me to give you the platform, you know, which I don't like.
Yeah.
I don't think, yeah, I don't, I don't know if I said this on the pod or off the pod, but I don't think he's fighting again, period.
I didn't think he was going to fight KSI.
I think probably something is wrong.
And we had fun when he was on the pod.
I'm not trying to hate, but I think there might be something wrong with him like in his body.
But how do you maintain relevant?
I kind of empathize with it.
Like the only way he can make money his whole life is fighting.
Now he can't fight.
So how do you try to make money when you can't fight?
That's a really interesting thing.
Either to something else, or if you're really good at generating attention, which he is and being controversial, which he is, you can like him or hate him.
But either way, you're going to enjoy loving or hating him.
Yeah, but he doesn't get paid by just signing up to a fight and never fighting.
I'm sure there's somebody else.
I think he's getting paid from audience and like from having appearances or whatever.
Having audience and influence, I think he makes money from it.
Yeah, I get that.
But if he just keeps doing this, you think that's going to be a short-term hustle.
I think this is his last chance.
I don't think we're buying in again.
Whoever he fights, I don't think nobody's going to, but the amount of people who are going to be like, oh, I want to see this, it's going to drop by like 50% every time.
And has he said anything?
He hasn't.
He just, he pulled out the fight and hasn't said a word.
There's one more fight that he could do and then pull out of.
But I think that people give him one more chance.
And that is a jujitsu fight against Gordon Ryan.
That'd be crazy.
And like, because they, I guess, tied earlier in their career.
And then like, people still see Dylan as a jiu-jitsu guy.
And Gordon went on to have, you know, the most incredible career in jiu-jitsu in history.
He's the most dominant, you know, submission grappler ever.
It's unbelievable what this guy's fucking done.
And I'm watching it as like super casual from the side, but like the level of dominance, you're talking about Michael Jordan type shit.
And I think that people would have an appetite for one more thing, but it'd be risky for a fighter to take on a fight with him if they are going to be like, okay, I'm going to go to camp and I got.
Oh, they'll never do it again.
It's like, okay, I spent the last four weeks in camp.
Yeah.
And now I, you know, there's nothing to show for it.
My opponent pulled out.
Like, that sucks.
Even if you pull out early, and even if it's for a valid reason, if it happens multiple times, it's like, it's not trustworthy for me to put my body through this pain for no outcome.
I think you're on to something, Akasha.
Because if he could physically do it, why not?
Yeah.
This guy has dedicated his life to combat.
Like, it's not like he hasn't been in the fucking octagon.
He was.
He was in Beltor.
He had two fights against guys who go out there and they dedicate their life to beating the shit out of people.
Right.
So the only reason why I could see why he wouldn't is if there's an actual physical ailment.
And I know he's a troll, so it's easy to be like, oh, he's a pussy.
He's this.
He's the guy trained for his entire life.
You're not a pussy if you train for your entire life.
You're not ducking fights if you train for your entire life.
You've been trained for 25, 30 years, whatever.
And then be like, yeah, I'm just not into it.
I'm going to just keep building up and ducking out.
So I empathize with him.
I'm not trying to jump on the pile.
I don't know if he's going to fight again.
Hopefully he can, but I just don't see it.
And it's, it is a.
British Gossip And Tsunamis00:05:52
That sucks.
Yeah, it is a shame because he had that spirited interview with Ariel Hawani, and like that interview got crazy views.
So there was this interest.
There's at least an interest on like seeing people dunk on him.
And that's what Ariel really laid in.
And Ariel ended up being right.
I think Ariel also called.
He's like, I don't think that this fight is going to happen.
And it's like, but the shame is it's a missed opportunity.
People want to see you fight.
Whether they want to see you get beaten up or not, doesn't matter.
People pay the same price of admission.
Like they love you, age.
So it's, yeah, what a shame.
I feel bad for KSI.
Low-key.
It's like, me too.
You putting your body through this shit in a road, boy.
Last time we were in London, remember the other guy pulled out?
Whoever he's supposed to fight?
Yeah, I forget who that was.
And then he ended up taking on his brother, the boxer's brother.
Oh, Tommy Fury?
Oh, no.
Wait, wait, Tommy was supposed to fight KSI?
No, he was going to fight Jake.
Jake.
No, who was KSI going to fight?
And then he ended up fighting Swarms, I think his name was.
Yeah.
He was like hyped.
I can't remember.
Some guy he doesn't like genuinely.
Oh, Johnny Tsunami or something like that.
The Disney guy?
No, Alex Wasabi.
I knew it was something.
Alex Wasabi.
Alex wasabi.
A Japanese word.
Yeah, it was close.
It was close.
Japanese word.
Yeah, tsunami.
Come on, bro.
Tsunami's a Japanese word.
That's not Japanese.
It's just a fact.
There's an obvious one that hits Japanese.
It could be a Japanese word.
Tsunami.
Tsunami.
Japanese word.
Of course, Japanese words.
Makes me think as makes me think it could be Japanese.
Tsunami.
All right.
That doesn't make me think it's Japanese.
All right, let me try again.
It's Japanese.
It's Japanese.
Idiot.
Fucking racist.
Homeschool.
What does it mean?
It means harbor wave.
Yeah.
Come on, bro.
Tsunami.
Why are you saying it like you knew that?
You just.
Why is it acting like he knew?
Royal tech, boss.
He was acting like he knew it the whole time.
No road.
It means harbor wave.
Dude, it means literally, it means harbor.
You get to it.
Yeah.
Dude, it means harbor wave, you fucking idiot.
How'd you not know that?
Son, it means tsunami.
What that means in English is up to y'all.
But for us, it means sunnami.
What do you mean us?
I'm not.
I can't say that.
Yeah, not on the population.
You can't.
Yeah, you can't.
Oh.
I can.
Oh, okay.
Wait, can I go like.
Come on now.
No, but like, if you see a tsunami in the distance, we all look Japanese.
Like, I'm just saying, like, when you're looking for it.
That's why, you know, it's the land of the rising sun, bro.
That's why they call it that, dude, because it is sun me.
It is sun not me.
It is.
It is, dude.
Son of me.
Okay, guys.
Yeah.
Can we talk?
There's one other big thing we need to talk about.
Okay, Prince Harry?
Speaking about humility, a lot of humility.
We got to talk about this guy.
Prince Harry is extremely.
Let me tell you something.
I mean this sincerely.
Prince Harry and Megan, we don't give a fuck.
America don't give a fuck about you.
A lot of people care.
We don't care about the royal family.
We never cared about nothing that had to do with y'all.
1775 was the last time we gave a fuck.
You don't even give them the whole year.
You don't even give them a shit.
It was that whole year we cared, yo, because we were like, are we still going to be part of it?
But once 1776 came around, we didn't give a flying fuck about y'all.
Keep your shows, keep your drama, keep all that nonsense.
That's for you British people to fake care about.
We do not give a fuck.
We don't care.
They be fake Karen, bro.
They fucking fake care.
I want to hear the gossip.
I'm the only one that wants to hear what comes out in this book.
That's that British.
That's that British influence on Indian people.
They fucked that into me.
They fucked that into you.
You still British.
I ain't worried about it.
You British.
I'm from Scotland, son.
You British.
Bro, that's the most fucked up shit I saw from Colin's Hazel.
Hey, hold on, You put a boss in the side, bro.
We get different weather.
You jerk someone off.
We get a jerk.
God damn.
I got my Elmer foot, bro.
You better watch out now.
How big is that dick you just jerked off right there, bro?
Huge, huge dick.
Huge dick.
It's huge.
Okay.
It's the king's dick.
We don't care about Megan.
We don't care about Harry.
Yeah, that might have been an Indian thing, bro.
India's got some weird traditions.
We're going to get to that one in a second, but hold on.
Hold on.
We're going to get to that.
Yeah, that's a great story.
Hold on, we're going to get to that one in a second.
But just to clear up this Harry Megan shit.
Yeah, yeah.
Can you explain first off?
We don't care about y'all.
We're going to gossip about it.
That's what I'm saying.
Thank you.
I'm going to gossip.
I'm going to gossip.
We like shitting on people that we don't like.
Yeah.
You think they're important.
Yeah.
You know?
That is true.
First of all, Harry and Megan are the whackest motherfuckers because they really don't realize that people don't care about them.
Like they moved to Montecito.
Like this is the fancy part of Santa Barbara, right?
And they were like renting out the restaurants and being like, it just needs to be just us when we go out to eat here.
Y'all are broke.
Y'all got no money.
British guy with red hair.
I got no money.
You think people think that he's Ed Sheeran?
I think that's what he's afraid of.
I think he's afraid.
A red guy with British.
If British Jackson walks around, they're going to think I'm fucking Ed Sheeran.
They're going to ask this thing.
Yo, that's crazy.
He's being mistaken.
That motherfucker is mistaken.
If he walks around security, we think he's someone else.
He's going to get his Santino.
Andrew Santino, we found a character he could actually play.
Oh, he was shot.
Oh, this episode ain't out yet.
They don't even know.
Eventually, yeah, it will eventually be out.
Santino is more famous than Harry.
That's not true.
Santino's more known than Harry.
That's definitely not literally.
I can't pick out.
I can't pick out Harry on the street.
I can't pick one Harry on the street.
You don't know no Harry jokes, bro.
Exactly.
Harry had a podcast.
I think that came out.
Yo, he had a fire joke, bro.
He had this Nazi joke he did on Halloween one time.
Lies In Killer Podcasts00:10:40
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You dressed up as a Nazi?
Yeah, you saw that.
That was awesome.
That was crazy.
That was funny.
That was good.
And then he tried.
Kanye?
He tried to blame it on William and Kate.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What'd he say?
I don't know.
I just read the headline.
The audiobook didn't come out yet.
Eventually without audio listening to that shit.
He's going to read it in British.
Yeah, I know anything about this shit because I really don't.
I know a few things.
Okay, go.
So basically, he dressed up as a Nazi, and he said that they like encouraged him to do it.
And it was like an Africa party or whatever.
Yeah, it was basically an Africa party.
And he dressed up as like a Nazi general that went to Africa or some shit.
So he's like, I wasn't Hitler.
I was a good Nazi.
And the Nazis did go to Africa.
And they encouraged me to be this guy, blah, blah, blah.
And that like...
Nah, that's what he claimed, apparently.
How old was he?
I don't know.
I think it was like late or like 20s, early.
What else he said?
He said he killed 25 Taliban.
Yeah, he called it knocking chess pieces off a board.
Yeah.
That's kind of fire, to be honest with you.
But like, that's fire to be honest.
How did he kill him?
Yeah.
You think he like with a gun shot?
I don't think they're putting him in the position where he could be shot.
Maybe he's a sniper.
Maybe he's a sniper, a trained sniper.
Maybe his cap.
Maybe he busted a cap?
No, maybe his cap.
He ain't kill no 25 Taliban motherfucker.
Why would he lie about that?
Why would he lie about Taliban?
So did we talk about it?
Lying about killing people.
Who was that politician that lied about being a POW?
George Santos?
He lied about everything else.
No, he lied about everything.
He lied about literally one other guy.
Fuck.
I forgot his damn dog.
Did George Santos lie any more than the average politician?
Yes.
Here's my feeling.
Let me tell you why.
I don't know the first time.
Let me tell you why.
This is what so interesting.
I went to, I took us into a place I didn't prepare for.
But this is what I think is so interesting about the Santos thing.
Usually politicians lie about what they're going to do for you.
And they all lie.
And everything they promise, they don't deliver on and it's all lies.
He lied about who he was and what he went through.
Yeah.
And I think it's really funny that now what gets you elected is lying about who you are, not lying about what you could do for people.
That's true.
Because we're so desensitized to the lies of the politicians.
It don't work no more to tell me you're going to do something for me because I don't think you're going to do anything.
So we're buying into you.
Now you got to be fucking trans, Holocaust survivor, all these other fucking things he said.
And I think, is that what you're saying?
We've spent so long with people being like, hey, I'm going to help the black community.
People are like, fuck that.
We're not trusting liars anymore.
No, we black.
We're just going to vote for a black guy because then at least I know you're not going to work against us.
At least be black.
And that's what he did.
Like, I don't know.
I just think it's like we get caught up in this crazy story and it's absolutely crazy story what he did.
But there is a kernel of truth in it that's really fascinating, which is politicians almost ran ass shit a lie about.
And then he was like, there's a whole lot more.
That's wild, right?
The only difference.
And it works.
The only difference is that when politicians lie about what they're going to do, they can still say like, oh, I was trying, but the other side is blocking me.
Yeah.
But this, you can't like take back any of these lies.
Nobody's blocking him, bro.
They're blocking him for being a train.
He was a trainer.
He was trying.
They started blocking him.
They're blocking him.
They're trying for me to check out.
You are way different than lying about what you're going to do.
Yeah.
That's way different.
You know, the places I promise I'm going to take my wife, we ain't going.
But I am who I say I am.
But eventually you could.
One day you could.
That hope.
Yeah, that's why it's less bad.
There's a hope you could lower taxes.
Like Al said, there's plausible deniability.
That's a very important thing.
And you saying, hey, I've fought to lower taxes.
How can you prove me wrong?
Yeah, exactly.
But saying I am something I'm not, it's like, well, now you are a fucking liar.
No, you're 100% right.
I'm just saying there is, it is an interesting time that we would rather just identify with the politician because we know that they're not going to do nothing for us anyway.
And I think that's the thing we could take away from this.
The crazy part is that like when two politicians are running against each other, they vet and they look into somebody's past.
How did they miss all of these?
That's the laziest opponent ever.
Oh, how did he miss?
He lied about where he worked.
He lied about graduating school.
He lied about his mother's fit.
He was like his grandparents were alcohol survivors.
That's nothing.
That's the only thing that he ain't lied about.
Really?
Well, they survived.
It wasn't there, but they did survive.
You understand?
Imagine if someone's trying to call him on that shit and he was like, well, did they survive?
They didn't die.
Did they make it?
Yeah.
How am I here?
How am I here?
They were born in 1963, but did they make it?
That's funny.
Like, yeah.
If someone lies about who they are to get into office and we find out it's a lie, should we vote to take them out?
Yes.
Can you do that?
I think it depends on the size of that lie.
But I think you should just let that be up to the vote.
And people are like, ah, it's a little lie.
You want to revote?
If like part of the reason you got in is because you said, hey, I'm this, I'm this, I'm this.
And everyone was like, oh, I like you because of this, isn't this?
Yeah.
Then you got it under false pretense.
Well, the people from his district are telling him to step down.
They should do that.
But should there be a legal precedent that like, hey, if you do this and we find out it's a lie, you can get revoted out.
If, yeah, if you lied about kind of who you are, if you lied, not if you lied about promises, because they all lied, but if you lie about shit in your control, what Akash was saying earlier.
Yeah, and things that are verifiably like, okay, this is not true.
Yeah, 100%.
That's how they're going to get him on campaign finances.
Because all of a sudden.
He went from making like $55,000 for like the past five years to all of a sudden one year he made like $700,000.
That's all you motherfuckers.
Wow.
He started eliminating?
And then he like he donated his campaign some crazy amount of money.
So it's just like, all right, somebody came with the big bag.
Be like, we tapping you to be to run.
Yeah.
You got to do what you got to do to make it.
And then ain't that on us a little bit too?
Like, isn't on us the voters that we're doing this?
Like, we're just looking for representation instead of like the best person for the job?
Absolutely.
And none of us vote locally.
I'm not going to vote locally.
I vote locally.
Gay?
I'm not going to do that.
That's super gay.
I'll take it.
But I just think that is a kind of interesting thing.
It's like, if we just went out for the best person for the job, regardless if it was like, I think this goes to what we were speaking about earlier.
Hopefully it's in the episode when we're talking about maybe it was the car insurance or that kind of stuff.
But exactly like if you're not judging a book by its cover, you're just judging a book by how well they fucking drive the car.
And that's how much you got to pay, right?
And it's like, if we are looking for the best person for the job, whether they're a fucking Jewish guy who's 64 years old, whether they're a Chilean chick who's 23, like if they are just the best person for the job and we just remove the identity politics, then maybe we'll end up with that.
But we're so caught up in the identity politics that we're rooting for these people.
We're voting for these people that might not even be the best for the job.
And if they are, their qualifications can't just be that they check off boxes.
You know, like.
Yeah.
It's just how do you know who's the best for the job?
They all lie.
Yeah.
I mean, you can at least read what they're going to try to do.
Although that's what goes back to the line about what they don't try to do.
That's what I was saying.
Like, is this the readjustment?
Like, you know, the readjustment we were talking about, the guy who won the custody.
It's like, is that the overcorrection?
Yeah.
Like, will this be the overcorrection?
We'll be like, all right, well, maybe we should stop just voting people in for identity.
Or then this one's like, all right, maybe we should stop just letting people say they're whatever so that they can win their kids back.
Maybe we need another kind of.
So what you got a politician do as you want them to do is you got to pay them a lot of money.
Yeah.
So I'm wondering how much money, how much money do you have to pay to get him to do even like a little thing?
Do you know?
Like how much are these super PACs paying?
Like millions of dollars?
But he was doing this before them.
Like the dude was like the dude like lived with another dude and was like selling him these dreams about all this other shit.
He's just like a manipulative power hungry motherfucker.
But all these politicians are like they're all willing to sort of bend things for money.
So I'm like, could you pay a politician a couple hundred thousand just to get him to do a small thing?
Like just like include you in a speech?
Oh yeah.
How much could that cost?
I mean Lil Wayne paid Obama to mention him in the speech.
You didn't remember that?
Is that true?
Yes.
Lil Wayne paid him $400,000 to mention him.
Worth it.
That shit is hella worth it.
You say on the record, that's what happened as we say it.
Last podcast on the left, tell me online.
Isn't that his podcast?
Is it a serial killer podcast?
The last podcast on the left is a serial killer podcast.
I thought it's a liberal process.
What was that podcast that was like, tell me I'm lying.
Tell me all about it.
Last podcast on the left.
No, there was a podcast.
There's been a serial killer podcast with a comic.
What's his name?
Ben Sumpton.
Yeah.
Yeah, they cover serial killer shit.
Oh, my bad.
I'm thinking about a liberal podcast.
What is it?
Like a bunch of guys, one of the guys who used to write the speeches for Obama.
Oh, This is America.
Serial.
No, This is America.
Yeah.
No, not This Is America.
This American Life.
This American Life.
That's the one.
Are you sure it's that one?
I don't think it's the Fresh Air podcast.
Something with America.
Pod Save America.
Pod Save America.
Thank you, Shuff.
All right, so come back in.
What we were trying to say.
We don't even know that podcast.
That's how Red Pull we are.
We don't even know that on any podcast.
Thought that shit was last podcast on the left.
Doesn't that sound like a liberal podcast?
Doesn't that sound like the last?
But it's such a podcast on the left podcast.
There's no more podcasts, the liberals.
This is the last one.
It's the last on the left.
That's the last one.
Yeah.
That's a liberal.
That's a popular podcast.
Probably by liberal cucks.
It's probably liberal cucks that listen to it.
It's a serial killer podcast.
All our girlfriends are probably listening to it.
Liberal cucks.
They all listen to all this game.
They're all liberal and us.
That's why they're all fucking liberal.
You know what I mean?
Man, like they're a red pull.
100%.
Hey, literally, Joe Biden, I honestly think $100,000.
He mentions the podcast.
He'd forget.
In his speech, I was listening to a flagrant.
I was listening to a flagrant podcast.
No, we could get somebody, though, that's more cognizant of her.
But Lucy, like, you could pay her and you can make her slip in a funny word.
Say titties in your next speech.
Just say it.
Yeah, she would.
And we'll give you $100,000.
What about AOC?
You could get her.
I genuinely think if you pay enough money, you could get her to fit you in a speech.
How much do you think it would cost for her to talk about the four locos?
How much do you think it would cost?
AOC.
Yeah, AOC.
Because she doesn't take donations, right?
Everyone takes donations.
Liberal Cucks Listening00:05:54
Just gotta be big enough.
She's taking donations of ginger Harry's fucking AOC.
That's crazy.
That's in the budget.
She's taking over, son.
The guy that wrote A-Team is fucking AOC.
For real.
That's crazy.
Talk about Ed like that, son.
Talk about my boy Ed like that.
Anyway, we got to find a politician to go donate a bunch of money to and change American politics.
All right.
Stupidest waste of money.
Let's do it.
I think we got to do it.
Is there any more time?
Can we just do Feelers No Fax and just rifle through a bunch of things super quick?
Yes, we can.
So I'm just going to say him and we just go, all right?
All right, bro.
All right, well, there's this awesome Indian tradition I've been dying to tell you guys about.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is awesome.
Have you seen this, Akash?
How do you know about this?
I don't know if I.
This might have been another story, I think.
Have you seen this?
This is a beautiful thing.
Someone actually posted this in the Flagrant Subreddit.
Oh, it's so beautiful.
This is so amazing.
So this is basically a tradition that happens in the northwest part of India where basically the man will suck on his mother's breast.
Yeah, buddy.
Son.
Oh, buddy.
Get some more, fam.
Yo, get some more, fam.
Like, you ain't done that before.
And this is basically to acknowledge, like, okay, I'll never forget my mother.
I know where I came from, even though I'm going to be sucking on my wife's titty from now on.
But this is actually where I started, okay?
You all didn't do that.
Wow.
That's it.
So this is him getting a little taste right there.
And then the photo op where he kind of poses.
Son, y'all really do be fucking butts.
Y'all suck your mom's titties.
What's the big deal?
This guy's 35.
You know what?
Come on.
She got that horny, bro.
Yo, her eyes rolled in the back of her head.
Go look back at the sun.
She was enjoying that shit, bro.
Look at this.
Oh, my.
Oh, yo, he went through.
Did you see the eye roll?
Her eyes rolled to the back of her head.
Her shoes curled the other way.
You can't make your mom feel good.
No, bro, not like that.
Oh, y'all suck your mom's titties.
Her eyes probably roll in the back of her head.
He's holding coconuts.
Look at that.
Are you a fed formula?
That's a whole value shit.
Now, is it true that this is a popular tradition and that it's often replaced with a cup of milk, a glass of milk at weddings?
No, I've never heard this.
You've never heard this?
No.
I was at my wedding.
Oh, no, no.
Oh, my God.
Now?
Now, now you want to be quiet?
Literally, I was talking to Shu about this earlier day.
I showed this and I was like, bro, this is unbelievable.
Have you ever heard of this?
And he was like, bro, I've never seen this in my life.
That's so fucking weird.
And then I started reading about it.
I was like, oh, yeah, in this part of fucking India, part of the cultures, they do this.
And sometimes they replace it with a glass of milk where they drink it as like a ceremonial thing.
And Shu immediately goes, oh, yeah, the glass of milk.
Everyone knows that.
I know about the glass of milk, duh.
And I was like, oh, that's just a symbol for sucking your mom's titty?
And he's like, oh, yeah, I never knew that.
All milk is just a replacement for titty milk.
Yeah, that is true.
All milk is a replacement for titty milk.
That is true.
You drink substitute titty milk?
You drink substitute titty milk.
I drink almond milk.
You probably drink almond milk, which is even gayer.
That's not gay.
I drink nut milk, bro.
Must be gay about nut milk.
Must gay about drinking some nut milk.
This is fire, this tradition.
We don't do it, but God bless us.
I'm just going to ask you, respectfully, is that something that you would do?
No, I did not do it.
If it was part of tradition, I was at your wedding at the moment.
I remember you didn't do it.
I thought you did do it.
You did it, dude.
That would be, you're talking about my mom right now.
Keep that in mind.
Keep that in mind.
Keep my mom, my mom.
Keep that in mind.
I'm not saying it's your mom saying you can get a substitute.
You get someone to buy a substitute mom.
That's a good ass idea.
Throwing in the sub for the titty sector.
That's what your wife is, is a substitute mom.
What are we talking about?
That's a good point.
Wait a minute.
So what did, like, the brown stuff, what did that symbolize?
What brown stuff?
That was a mud.
Wait a minute.
What brown stuff?
Remember they gave us...
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
The sticky brown.
How can the mud fuckers go away?
Prasad.
How did they not think of this before?
Now they basically nutted in mud, mixed it all up, and then made us eat that shit.
Yeah, yeah, that's what that is.
What type of fucking tradition is that?
Prasad, dude.
That's prasad.
Golly, Al, why didn't you tell me that shit?
I was scarfing them things down.
I had at least two handfuls.
I went back for seconds.
You were rolling face, bro.
I was.
Oh, my God.
Okay, if you were at one of your friends' weddings and they did that, would you have any issue with that at all?
I would be a little bit perturbed, I think.
A little bit.
How would you...
That he was hogging it?
Yeah, how would you word it?
How would you word it to them?
I think I would just be like, what the fuck is that?
I think I'm...
You'd be respectful of his culture.
Yeah, then I'd be like, eh.
Anybody else notice titties against sucks in public?
Yes.
Can I also ask another question?
Is the titty that accessible from the sorry like that?
There's just one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Really?
Do they wear bras?
Dude, God, women wear bras.
There's a.
Yeah, the cloth.
That's like the bra.
There's a bra built in, I believe.
Oh.
Am I wrong, Shu?
Tell me if I'm wrong.
Shu, don't even answer.
Let's just sit in this for a little bit.
Hold on, hold on.
So you're going to tell me in a spool of silk, there's a bra magically built in.
No, there's a thing that goes around like a halter that goes around the breasts.
That's a separate piece.
Oh, it's a separate piece.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, and then not built in.
Yeah.
Okay.
No, I'm saying the bra padding might be built into that separate piece.
Ah, gotcha, gotcha.
There's an undergarment.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
Okay.
So it's not like a typical bra we was thinking about.
It's not like you hook up in the whole Saudi in one, you know what I mean?
Yeah, that's what I thought you were saying.
You put on that piece and then you drape the saudi over.
I mean, this is a beautiful tradition.
Honestly, it really is.
I really think it is.
I've another beautiful tradition.
Safety Nets In Emirates00:07:26
Ronaldo is able to rewrite Sharia law instead of having to marry his girlfriend.
That's fire.
Yeah.
Inshallah.
So basically he got traded to, what is it, al-Nasir, which is the Arab team.
And they have a law in Saudi Arabia.
Yes, the Saudi team.
And they have a law in Saudi Arabia that says, hey, if you're not married, you can't live together.
Yeah, it's called Sharia law.
Yeah.
I mean, that's what some people call it.
Some people call it, you know, the modest rules.
Yeah.
No one calls it that.
Nobody.
But they broke the rules wrists.
I was thinking, that's why I think I was like, is there something funnier than Sharia?
I was just going to keep moving.
I don't know what I say.
I was just saying.
I heard Bob chuckling.
Okay.
Look up Harborways, Miles.
Okay.
So let's just talk about it.
Let's just talk about it.
Let's just talk about it.
Okay.
I was told that this law doesn't really apply to foreigners, but it's a fun way of making Ronaldo the GOAT.
Like he's so impactful, he could get them to change Sharia law.
That's kind of crazy.
Yep.
Oh, I was actually looking at it from Saudi's point of view, which I was just like, yo, the Middle East is coming for the like PR crown almost.
Like the way we've always kind of looked at it, a place that's like inaccessible and we'll go travel to Europe or America or wherever.
The Middle East is going to become a big tourist destination, I think.
And I really think they're using all of their wealth and just buying positive PR in the best way.
They're getting Ronaldo.
They got the World Cup.
That's the most, I don't think it's an accident that they got the most popular sport in the world to have their World Cup in the Middle East.
You know what I mean?
Like, then let's get the most popular player, maybe second, to come to our league.
We'll pay him $400 million.
Money means nothing to us because we have so much oil money and now it's invested in everything.
It's just making money.
We're the richest place in the world.
And now it's going to, and then we'll, you know, we'll tweak the laws enough that you guys will overlook whatever fuck shit we're doing and be like, let's just go visit the Middle East.
Now, for everybody that was like, yo, the West has been ruined by capitalism and all these other things.
And they have no laws.
They have no, not laws, but they have no morality.
They've lost their virtue.
Now that you're seeing Middle Eastern countries start to sacrifice some of their morality and laws and virtue for capitalism, can they really question how it's happened in the West?
Or is this just a natural process?
Is it almost like some shit where we'd be like, yo, I told y'all so.
You're saying the West is so different.
You're going to be here too in 30 years, 40 years.
I think it's very easy for those of us without money to talk about how money corrupts you and how dare you.
And then when money gets given to you, you're like, oh, yeah, this is being corruption is fun.
Yeah.
They probably got like conservative commentators in Saudi Arabia like, we can't let this happen.
Like we're going to backslide.
We're going to like, fuck, and this is a slippery slope.
They let this happen.
They're going to let this happen.
You don't think that the state who's paying for that is going to allow there to be dissent.
They're going to say, yo, shut your fucking mouth.
You excited about it?
Don't bring it up at all.
Here's a couple million.
Exactly.
Yeah, that's a good point.
But if people are seeing like this whole thing backsliding and all of a sudden like little things get chipped away and like the whole country becomes immodest and it's not a secular country or it's not a religious country anymore, et cetera.
I think there's going to be people that are like, no, we're not going to have it.
Like the way we have it in America, no way.
Yeah.
I just, I wonder if they can maintain their country without oil.
Eventually they run out of oil.
Can you just be a strictly religious country without some incredibly lucrative commodity to prop it up?
I don't know if you can.
Well, that's what I wish I like.
Sorry to interrupt, but like you can with oil money because you can tell people to do whatever the fuck they want because you're paying for their lifestyle or subsidizing it and everybody's living kind of good.
They got their apartments taken care of.
Like I think even in the all the Emiratis don't even pay for rent.
So it's like, yeah, they're going to do whatever you say.
Well, there's probably a lot of poor religious countries too, though.
I don't know exactly which ones, but like...
Keep going on the yeah, yeah.
But like there's got to be countries like in West Africa that are Like deeply religious, but they don't have these natural resources and they don't got a ton of money.
But my suspicion is like in those countries, you see a lot more of those citizens breaking the rules because they got to survive.
So like prostitution, probably a little bit more popular, at least among like the people there.
A little drug thing here and there.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Maybe.
I would say more so than you see like in the Emirates or Saudi, where there's like a safety net for those people, which is the state.
That's probably true.
I need to finish watching this thing.
I was watching something on Qatar because of how you say it.
If you listen to it with Audible, it's way easier.
You can just listen to it without audible.
You know what?
I'm out of credits.
It's the darndest thing.
There's another bill in the state.
Well, maybe it waits to take eight months and then you can get another credit.
Let me see if my credits came in just yet, but go on.
But they were talking about how let's say Qatar got the World Cup and like how, again, they're on this PR campaign, basically.
They understood oil money was going to run out years ago.
So they gave their wealth to basically like a hedge fund and they own some crazy amount, like 60% of the skyscrapers in London they own.
Like their money, their oil might run out, but the money from that oil is growing and growing and growing.
They're fine.
He's not listening.
No, you're 100% right.
They do own 60% of the skyscrapers in London.
You know what, man?
You were right.
You were fucking right.
You took all the air out of my wings.
You know what I mean?
No, but they took the wind out of my sale.
He did.
He repeated.
Just repeat exactly what you said, man.
No, I'd be doing that shit to my wife.
No, I'm doing that shit too.
If you get the last line, bro.
I know exactly what you're saying.
They are preparing for it.
And they knew this back in the day that the oil was going to run out.
100%.
I heard everything that you said.
It's just a very common talking point, so I didn't need to listen to it.
You just said earlier that they're going to run out of oil.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a friend.
You were checking the blockchain and listening at the same time.
Exactly.
Still no credits.
The credits are on the blockchain.
I'm telling you.
I'm going to go find them.
I'm going to find you.
I'm going to go find them.
But yeah, I think that like they're in a weird situation.
I think the reason why they have to buy so much real estate is because I think they're not allowed to make, what is it called?
Interest.
So they have to invest in actual things because the interest is haram.
Yeah.
Well, they're going to find their way to get their money.
But I was also thinking like live golf tournament doesn't seem like it's doing a lot, but that's trying to buy PR.
World Cup probably bought some PR.
How can they not buy, like, fund their own NFL?
Sports washing, is that what the term is?
Yeah, but they have so much money.
Football is the most popular sport in America by far.
You could easily tell every NFL player, I'm going to quadruple your salary.
Let's see if you want to come on over.
And they might have enough money to pull that off.
Yeah, but you know what they won't have?
They won't have.
Let me not say easily, but you could theoretically.
I think what they won't have, and this is important to sports, is identifying with the team.
I think it works in a thing like golf, where you identify with the player.
Yeah, fair.
But like the team is representative of the city and the city is part of your identity.
So you're like, that's it.
You're from Dallas.
You're going to fuck with the Cowboys.
Like, I'm New Yorker.
I'm going to fuck with the Knicks regardless.
Like, if we get to see them, well, you saw, but if I see the Knicks win a championship in my life, that's going to be so meaningful.
If like I love some random team in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, like, but for the individual sports, like for tennis, for golf, Formula One, like all those things where it's, or F1 is a perfect one because the teams ain't even really from an area.
Like all the cars, I think, are made in England.
I'm pretty sure all the engineers and kind of shit are from up there.
So yeah, those are perfect.
And those are just the money games.
And that's why you saw so many races in this last one in the Middle East.
Men In Crisis00:14:50
I think they had Oman.
I think they had...
Did they have Saudi?
They got Dubai, I think.
They had Dubai.
Like, they had a few.
Qatar, maybe?
I think their last race of the year is in the Middle East.
Bro, how far would it be if there's a female F1 driver driving in the country where women can't drive?
Well, no, she'd just have another person in the car.
That was Lord.
Yeah, that'd be fucked up.
Bro, that would be crazy.
Well, she had to wear, I guess she'd wear a helmet.
Yeah, the helmets.
Yeah, you don't need a Burka.
That's a Burka.
Yeah, that's basically the same thing.
Okay, this is breaking news, guys.
Yeah.
Andrew Tate has been hospitalized by The Matrix.
Oh, God.
The last thing we wanted.
What happened?
Well, basically, he sent out a tweet and said The Matrix attacks me.
And then there's like a news leak that's basically out saying that he was transported to the hospital.
No one knows if any of this is necessarily true or not.
And no one even knows who tweeted from the account because he's been detained.
Matrix months.
But then the information came out that he had, oh, fuck, where was it?
I remember screenshot that he had like a medical condition that he had already notified them of.
So he went to the hospital to seek help for the medical condition.
I didn't know that.
So it wasn't like, I've been attacked.
Yeah, I don't know.
Might want to cut this, but did you see a true Jordi's?
One of the brothers was claimed to have a pre-existing health issue that he told a medic about, which led to him being taken to the hospital.
Daily Mail reports.
So I want to go on the True Jordy because Drew Jordy did a whole fucking thing about him lighting him up.
It's really interesting.
A few different things can be true about this.
He can be an incredibly engaging speaker, have interesting thoughts about gender identity and know how to package them in a way that just lights the internet on fire, be incredible at debate when it comes to these types of things and also be funny.
And also maybe be involved in some shady dealings with women and the sex cam business and maybe the treatment of them.
All these things can be true.
And I think people are like using one to discredit the other when they're completely unrelated.
Like you can have a lot of knowledge about gender dynamics and know how to communicate it while also maybe potentially have treated some women shitty.
And guess what?
Also treated women well.
There could be women that are vouching for you that you did really treat well.
Yeah.
Like, so all these things can be true.
And I think like when you really are impacted by someone and really like love someone and you've started to like craft your identity around them, you want to defend them because you're really defending yourself.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If your identity is interwoven with it.
Same thing happens to Jordan Peterson.
Of course.
Like people will rip on him and then people will defend him to the death.
And it's like, you got to acknowledge like sometimes his tweets are crazy and out of pocket and like unnecessary.
Yeah, but he's a man.
He can't see it.
People won't even see it because they're so tied up into his identity.
Yeah.
Which I think even he would say, and I think anyone would say, yo, don't make my message the only thing that you think about in your life.
Jordan would be the first person to tell you that.
Yeah.
He'd be like, that's the most dangerous thing.
That's what leads to tyranny.
Yeah, you've created this like parasocial codependency that is not necessary and unhealthy.
Healthy.
Yeah.
100%.
And Andrew Tate is like the same thing where people rap themselves so much and they can't even acknowledge that this rap song sucks.
It does though, right?
No, it's all trash.
It wasn't bad.
Stop.
You're a fucking red pill, dude.
You're bad.
Wasn't bad.
That looked like a Hollywood movie.
I told you I signed up for Hustles University last week.
You are a fucking big dick, red-pilled, opposite of a cup.
No, that shit was bad.
Yeah.
That shit was bad.
But was it just like right down a curve?
What was it?
Like, I'm watching this and I'm like, what fucking idiot?
Who does a fucking song and puts it on a music video?
What a fucking loser, right?
And then open her up.
Open her up.
No, but so what I was wondering is like, if he's doing it sarcastically, like if he's doing it in the way that we did open her up.
If he's having fun, it's awesome.
If he's just having fun, then it's awesome.
If he's doing it where he's like, I need to be famous, whether I'm going to be on Big Brother or whether I'm going to be on this thing, whether I'm going to do music, something is going to make me famous.
I'm going to find a way to be famous.
That's crazy.
You'd be so good at so many things.
It is rare.
It is rare that kind of talent.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rap.
Kickboxing.
Talking.
Buying cars.
Yeah, nobody's been able to buy cars like that.
Right?
So he says it bugai, fire.
Pronouncing.
No, sick pronunciation of words.
Yeah, that's true.
Chess.
Yeah.
I think actually he's good at chess.
He's good at chess.
But yeah, yeah, it's just, it's, it is one of those kind of peculiar things where it's like, okay, if this is all about like what gets me on and what makes me famous because I have a desire to be famous, then you start to look through everything through a different lens.
At least that's how I would kind of do it.
If he's doing it to just make a funny video, kind of tease himself and like this would be a hilarious thing to just put out, then I'm like, okay, that's kind of great.
Yeah.
Cool content.
You're willing to make yourself look dumb and you know you look dumb.
Yeah.
It didn't look like that though.
It didn't look like that.
You can still make the song good too though.
That's what Lil Dickie did.
He was like, I want to make a song that's like funny and kind of silly.
Like how much?
You can't compare him to Lil Dickie.
You got to compare him like Jason Kidd.
You know what I mean?
Wait, why?
Kobe Bryant.
The guys who rapped as like athletes.
They're other things, right?
And then they just come out.
I think Jason Kidd had one.
I know Kobe had an album.
I had an album?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he had an album.
Kobe rapped.
Dude, there was a whole time.
Shaq album?
I think Shaq started.
Shaq went bunched.
Cedric Sabalos actually had a fire one weirdly.
Like for a ball player.
Had a fucking song come out.
That shit was fire.
Then they said a couple select words and they were like, you're not a rapper no more, bro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
I didn't know any of this.
I didn't even have bars, too.
He was 90s out.
Yeah.
Oh, that's crazy.
Yeah, yeah.
So then what's the thing?
Like, I think it's a tricky one, especially for Tate, because I think a lot of people are looking for, there's probably a lot of young men.
This is the overcorrection, right?
It's like a lot of young men probably feel probably feel like they, there's no voice for their emotional reaction to the popularity of feminism and the positions that they're, that are being taken by ultra feminists.
And there is no like logical reaction for it.
I think Jordan probably has taken some and a lot of people followed Jordan Peterson because of that.
And then Tate came in with like the most, Kevin Samuels came in.
You've seen a lot of these guys and like they're the overcorrection, which is like oftentimes when nobody's speaking out, the loudest voice is going to get listened to and the loudest voice might not be like the most nuanced specific one that can take on this issue.
Yeah, and it can go over the noise.
If a bunch of people are speaking, the guy who speaks the loudest can go over the noise.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And yeah, and I think people are tapping into not only that, but like, yeah, I think men in general in America, I mean, we talked about this before, just have fucking, are in like a crisis a little.
Yeah.
It feels like.
But I think it's touching on like part of the inequalities that exist against men that people don't really acknowledge because it's not trendy or whatever.
But like the dude that fucking, if you are in a custody dispute, even if the mother's abusive, you might not get your kids.
That's not fair.
Even a feminist would agree it's not fair.
But the fact that it's not acknowledged, that's where people start getting crazy.
And then they're run into the arms of fucking snake oil salesmen that are like, yeah, I'll promise you everything.
And you, like we were talking about before, I forget who, you overlook all the dubious shit because they're saying the thing that you agree on.
Yeah, exactly.
And you self-select.
Your brains will just lock into the thing that's true and forget all the shit that's.
It's like all the fucking guys of the people who hate Jews, the anti-Semites, all of a sudden found Kanye as like the most genius artist of our time when he was saying the anti-Jew shit.
They weren't saying anything before.
When he was like, George Bush doesn't care about black people, all those people are real quiet.
Right?
They were like, this is on it.
This guy's the truth.
The second he was saying the anti-Jew shit, they're like, well, hear him out.
The music ain't got bad.
Like this Kanye gets it.
So I think what's happening here, like, you know, with, you know, with the gender, the gender conversation, I think what's often happening is there isn't enough discussion about biological impulse versus a societal impulse.
So like, what is affecting us and why do we behave the way that we behave?
Is it biology or is it society?
And I think that anything that's inconvenient to you, male or female, you want to chalk up to societal, right?
You want to go, this is just society.
So let's change it.
Let's remove the stigma because it's inconvenient to me, right?
Like, let's say, for example, if you're a dude that's kind of short, you want to, I'm not looking at you, but I'm not looking at it.
But like, let's say if your dude is short, you want to be like, well, it's just society.
Society has told women that tall guys are more attractive.
Let's get rid of that.
That's stigma.
That's bullshit.
That's prejudice.
Let's remove the prejudice against short guys.
When in reality, there might be a biological impulse.
Evolutionarily, a taller, bigger guy is going to make a woman feel safer and more protected.
Absolutely.
And because of that, right?
So it's like, but naturally as a dude, you want to go.
We can change those things that would benefit me and make my life easier.
And I think one thing happening, then you see like, you know, Tate and a lot of other guys talking about this, but like, there's a lot of women out there who have maybe taken up promiscuity and tried to handle it with a certain amount of bravado.
They're like, well, guys can be promiscuous, so why can't we beat it on that?
And then they go, that's society that says that we can't, and we should make society fair.
And we should try to make society fair.
The problem is biology ain't fair.
No.
I don't got to sit the piss.
You know what I mean?
Like, biology is just not fair.
I think Neil had a great bit.
He was like, he was like, I'm not sexist, but Mother Nature is incredibly sexist or something like that.
I'm Bookturing his premise.
And I think that's one of those tough things where it's like, maybe society isn't the one that says that men don't like promiscuous women.
Maybe biologically we don't.
And you're going, uh, but there might be biological reasons for why men don't want to see overt promiscuity with women.
You can accept that, right?
Absolutely.
And like that might be completely rejected by an ultra feminist.
And that might be really frustrating for a dude who's like, hey, I don't think it's society telling me this.
I just don't want to know about all your exploits.
And I don't want to know about that.
And I'm not this insecure loser because of it.
I'm the result of millions of years of selective mating across every species.
Across everything that made me feel like this.
So it's like, and I think the problem is now there's a lot of women who might be, you know, bragging about their sexual exploits and might unfortunately be like suffering the repercussions of that.
And they don't want to acknowledge the reality, which is society or evolution or biology selecting them out of a thing that they might want.
But I think then they would get pissed where they're like, okay, so biology is supposed to say that we're supposed to live in tribes of fucking 20 people and do these jobs and you just sit in an office and work all day with a thousand people.
So you're allowed to break biology, but if I want to fuck around, it's I'm, you know, that's fucked up.
That's why I'm a generalization.
Like there are a lot of girls who are promiscuous that are winning and many guys want to be with them.
So it's like, I don't think, like, we paint that brush and I don't think that's exceptions.
No, there's Kim Kardashian.
There's allowed to be exceptions.
No, no, no.
Sorry, sorry, sorry, just to acknowledge this one point.
I don't want to like, you know, beat down this point too much, but like Kim Kardashian, we know who her partners have been, but there's not that many.
If you really want to calculate it, like we probably know of like maybe 10 people that maybe Kim has been in with publicly, the average public knows, and like four of them have been her husbands.
But according to the men is fair, that's one too many.
I think that that's the overcorrection.
They want virgins.
I think that's the overcorrection.
I think that's the exaggeration that gets all like, you know, it gets everybody's eardrums perked.
But I feel like the reality is, is we're talking about the girls who like, I got 100 bodies.
I got 300 bodies.
I'm like the girl who pops up in some fucking Instagram TikTok where it's like, I was sleeping with my boyfriend.
Then I went to a gas station and my ex cream pied me.
And then I went back.
And it's like, a guy hearing that, you know, is going to go, I don't know if I want to settle down with that person.
I think most of us in this room would say that, but the boyfriend that she's went back to had no problem with that.
Here's what we're saying.
That's not true.
I don't think.
Oh, they split up.
Yeah.
He didn't know about it.
She did it behind his back.
I don't think any of us are defending red pill type shit where it's like the most extreme.
You can only have one partner and blah, blah, blah.
Society has room to grow and evolve.
And we shouldn't just have women, oh, you can only have one partner.
Oh, we choose your husbands, et cetera.
But evolutionarily, there is a thing in men, based on the fact that I don't know if a baby is mine for until like 1980 or whatever, I'd want a girl that has less partners.
And I get to have more partners because that's the only way to ensure I'm having kids.
If a girl has a kid, she knows it's his.
A guy has, a girl says, hey, that's your baby.
I just got to take her word for it.
Right.
I get you.
And that's based on biology.
But now society, like we've grown.
We've got to say that.
We can progress to a point, but you're asking us to overcome, like Andrew used earlier, millions of years of genetic evolution in the world.
We had to overcome a lot of this.
I know.
This is the argument that people get into.
And then it becomes, and I'm not saying that what you're saying is wrong.
I think that what we're disagreeing on, not me and you, like the argument itself is basically pinned on how much is biology and how much is societal.
And we make that decision based on how inconvenient it makes our life.
And the reality is we should make that decision based on what we are actually feeling.
So it's very easy to chalk up everything that you don't want to do anymore to societal.
And then I think oftentimes the things that are for your advantage, and men are guilty of this as well, the things that are for our advantage, we don't want to stop that.
There's no man right here that's going, babe, I want to clean up half the dishes and I want to do half the cooking and I want to do whatever.
We are totally fine with that societal pressure to have them, I guess, nurture us in that way, right?
We're not giving any pushback, but we will get pushback if they're trying to do something that is inconvenient to us.
They want to have millions of partners to do that kind of stuff.
So we're guilty of it.
So are women.
But neither of us are willing to acknowledge or willing to honestly have the discussion about the biological shit in our biological knee-jerk reaction to things.
And I think that's just what it is some of it is biology and it fucking sucks because it is unfair.
And maybe if we both just came together, we're like, yo, this is unfair.
But like knowing you've been with 300 dudes, that shit just makes me feel uncomfortable and I don't want to handle it.
And maybe in 100 years from now or 1,000 years from now or 2,000 years from now, we won't care.
Blaming Women For Everything00:08:59
Maybe.
I just wish there was one of these types that didn't package it the way that the manosphere guys package it.
Or the way the feminists package it, right?
Because I feel like both sides are just too like.
Yeah, the manosphere is the equal and opposite reaction to feminism, which is like, I should be able to suck a dick every single morning for breakfast and then nobody should judge me for it.
And it's like, well, now a manosphere dude is going to come out and be like, you need to be a virgin.
Right?
Yeah.
But somewhere in the middle, it's like, yeah, you should have partners and be able to live a life that's consistent with the technology we have to protect yourself from getting impregnated by someone that you don't want, while at the same time recognize that maybe being with two might people is going to, for whatever reason, turn off.
And we're talking about millions of years of dating or a mating has created this way is going to maybe turn off a suitor that you might really like.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's just people talking like that aren't interesting.
Yo, facts.
And we got the algorithm.
It's not as fun to be reasonable.
Like, I mean, I feel like I've written jokes about this shit for fucking years in the most salacious way, and it's way more fun.
But now I'm looking at the way that people are like reacting to what's going on with Tate and like the way that almost like young people are reacting to the content.
And weirdly, like on some like OG shit makes me a little bit concerned.
Like it's not that, it's not that difficult and people aren't that far off, but nobody's listening to each other.
So now it's just on some fuck you shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And we're not going to change, dog.
No, bro.
I got a song.
You put on that hat, you became a real cowboy.
Became a real fucking southern gentleman.
You know what I mean?
What happened?
So what do we do, man?
How do we teach these kids?
I think what you said a while ago, it's like you almost enter that stage where you blame women for X, Y, and Z and they're this, and you go through that period, and then you have to grow out of it.
Yeah.
I don't know.
We can try to curb it, I guess, but I don't know how you really, it's something you almost have to learn just by living.
And then finding the right girl and being like, oh, oh, you're not like trying to manipulate me.
You're also just insecure.
Just like I'm insecure.
And let's try to talk.
And if she's willing to listen, she's the right person, then y'all find that common ground.
Yeah, you can have that in your personal life, but when it seems like in your public life, when people are refuting things that are just so obvious, like, you know, you ever have a conversation and say, yeah, men are stronger than women.
And then like a woman would be like, well, not all.
And you're like, what do you, what, what is going on?
Are we going to argue this right now?
Yeah.
Are we going to argue that there's not a physical advantage to the male species?
Like, yes, there are some women that are fucking strong.
And now you're angry that you even have to discuss it.
Yeah.
And that's when you hear enough of that.
Then, like you said earlier, the answer is that you're going, fuck it.
I like it.
These bitches is weak.
They can't open the door.
You know what I mean?
Because I'm tired of arguing.
So I like that guy.
Yeah.
This is, it's the, I was talking to FA about this earlier, but it's like, this is the problem.
This is the problem with cancellation.
Cancellation makes the pendulum swing super far.
When you allow someone to have an alternative idea, that's not too crazy.
I'm not talking about like Kanye with the fucking Nazis, but I'm talking about just an idea that's different from you.
And you don't even have to agree with it, but just allow it to be here without getting canceled.
Right?
If you don't allow that idea to be here, the pendulum keeps going.
Yeah.
Right?
If you allow it, it stops here and it comes back here and back and forth and back and forth.
Remember how similar politicians were back in the day?
Yeah.
Now these motherfuckers on different plants.
But back in the day, it was like Clinton, Bush, you know what I mean?
Obama.
Like it was just, you just operate, you go hot potato right here.
And now when you don't even allow an idea that is even close to yours, you let that pendulum keep swinging until you have the most extreme version that's real fucking loud.
You're also only talking to people who think like you.
So you're all just moving the pendulum this way.
And then they're all moving their pendulum this way.
And that shit just keeps going.
It's so crazy with presidential candidates.
They used to, when they're in the primaries, they were running for all the things that their base wanted.
And then once they got elected, what's the party?
And then they come back to center.
And now it's like, ah, we're kind of saying all the same things, but just a little nuance.
Now it's like, you stay on your side and you keep pushing just like that.
Like it just stays like that.
Fuck y'all.
It's crazy.
I kept thinking Trump is going to come back to the middle when he was just in the primary saying watch it.
And then he just did not.
Yeah.
That shit is done.
That's crazy.
You got to let to let other people at least say some shit.
Yeah.
Because if they're canceled for saying it, then other people are afraid to say it.
And then nobody says anything.
And now you just have the most extreme motherfuckers who don't care saying it.
And they're going to be looked at as brave.
And then it's the same situation we were in before, which is, I don't care how nefarious an actor is as long as they echo the sentiments that I feel that nobody's saying.
And yeah, I don't know the solution 100%, but I know at least if you let motherfuckers say something and don't immediately try to get them out of here, you won't have as far a swing on the pendulum.
Yeah.
Or at least try to teach them or educate them why it's not without being fucking aggressive.
Yeah, yeah.
Exactly.
You explain your point of view and have confidence in your point of view and have that discussion.
Because if you just go, what'd you say?
You disagree?
Fuck you.
You're fired.
You need to be canceled.
There's going to be a motherfucker with some Bugattis.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
And that's the sucky part because then you have the guy with the Bugattis and he's packaging this message in a way that people are like frustrated and they want to hear it.
But then look at all the shit that he's doing behind the scenes.
It's like, look at the guy who's telling you these messages.
And that shit.
To what you just said.
I know about him.
I'm like, oh, wow, he's on some fucked up.
We got to find out if it's true.
Yeah, and the song's not that bad.
That's what I'm saying.
But like we were saying, you were talking about frustration.
The more frustrated somebody is, the less they care about the person delivering the message.
That's true.
And that's what it feels like.
It feels like Jews are frustrated, like real frustrated, and they're just waiting for someone to voice their opinion or their emotions.
Remember when we used to say agree to disagree?
I don't feel like I ever hear that anymore.
That shit was whack, though.
That don't make me feel good.
Nah, but that's, hey, no, it's better.
It is better, but it makes me feel hard.
How do they never agree to that?
I don't ever agree to disagree.
I grew up in.
I go to that bad.
That's my sacred flaw.
That's my sacred flaw.
That's for six.
I'm not agree until you tap out.
I'm not agreeing you tap out.
I can't do agree to disagree to save my goddamn life.
It's the best.
Because if we agree to disagree, not a thousand people are shouting at you and making you go that much further that way.
Hey, we just don't see eye to eye on this.
And we'll both probably be right here.
If I yell at you, you're going this way and I'm going this way.
You know, the thing that's helped me is to get, because I can't just agree to disagree.
I got to be like, agree that you understand why I feel this way.
You don't have to agree.
That's fine.
Just understand where this is coming from.
And I'm not an asshole or a piece of shit or a monster.
That's valid.
That's beautiful.
And you could think it's wrong.
And I'll understand.
Like, this is even great when I'm like disagreeing with shit with my wife on.
It's like, at least know I'm coming from a place that wasn't a jerk.
And I apologize if I communicated.
But like, just know that the place I was coming from was good.
And I think if politically we could start doing a little more of that, like, why don't you want to pay more taxes?
Because these motherfuckers in the government don't do shit.
And then you go, don't talk about the government.
You don't care about that.
Because I'm trying to keep all the money I make.
That makes sense.
Oh, that is resonating.
That is red.
Stop talking about the government with the bridges.
Even if the government spent the money so efficiently, you still wouldn't want to pay them.
Yeah.
I still wouldn't.
Even Black Lives Matter, all lives matter.
If you can understand why black people feel this way as someone who doesn't get it and be like, okay, I see you on that.
And then if you, like, I did shows in Toledo and I saw like hopelessness there.
Like I was a, this is a city that's hopeless.
I remember thinking, oh, I see how these guys voted for Trump.
You know what's going to shit it all over time.
No, but you know what's so hilarious about what you said?
You said it's hopeless, like literally hopeless.
It's hopeless.
The reason for the saying holy Toledo is because there's so many churches in Toledo.
Not no more, brother.
Not no more.
I ain't even see no churches, dog.
I'm telling you, and I made jokes every show I did there.
People were great that came to the shows, but we just laughed at how shitty Toledo is.
And so if you're a white dude in Toledo and then somebody else comes and says make America great again, you're not thinking about what used to happen to black people in the 60s.
You're thinking about what our town used to be.
You're not thinking, oh yeah, that was great when we oppressed those guys.
You're thinking, yo, my family used to have jobs.
We said, this used to be a town that had fucking manufacturing.
Now it has nothing.
Let's go back to that.
And if you can empathize as a black dude with that, and as a white dude, you can get empathizing with a black person being like, no, policing needs to change.
Just under, even if I don't agree, I understand how you got here to what you were saying.
We just made so much progress.
That's a group of MAGA that wants to go back to when you're.
Probably.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Probably.
But I understand not everyone is like that.
Bowling With Hot Chicks00:02:42
Yo, there's also all this, you know, this animosity to hot chicks.
And don't get me wrong, like these like high Instagram thighs, they fucking annoying and that kind of shit.
But like, ask yourself, would you not do the same thing?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's really cool.
There are times where I don't have to wait online to go to a restaurant.
I could.
I could choose to.
You know what I mean?
I could choose to be like, no, just put me at the end of the list and blah, blah, blah.
And every time I'm like, bump a motherfucker so I can eat.
Now I take advantage of that situation.
I don't want to go back.
So it's like, if that hot girls, that's all they known their whole life, of course they're going to develop in a way where they're accustomed to that.
The question is, when I guess the frustrating part is when they have no awareness of it.
Who's giving them pushback?
I think a lot of it is like, you don't know what life it is that a man has to earn their, they have to earn their status.
Oh, okay.
Exactly.
Because they get no pussy.
That's one.
Yeah.
I mean, I ain't saying.
I mean, women are changing, bro.
This is a beautiful video.
Have you seen this?
One of the fucking greatest videos ever.
Press play.
14.5 million views.
Bam.
Son.
Lays him out.
You shouldn't do that.
You shouldn't do that.
This is wild.
My man doesn't even have his bowling shoes on.
Look at that shit.
Bro, the trash.
That nigga sleeping.
Son, that is ill.
That's ill.
Alan Iverson steps over.
Now wait.
Now wait.
Steps over him.
Because it looks like it's fake, right?
You're like, this can't be real.
Like, this is some bullshit.
Leaking.
Bro.
Damn.
I mean, you just can't argue with a girl that's the same height, especially if you're not wearing shoes.
Like, that's on you, bro.
Yeah, you forehead to forehead with a woman that you're not kissing.
That's kind of like.
That's a little close, right?
That's a little crazy.
That's a little right.
Like, there's nothing that could go right in this scenario.
Nothing.
She, boom.
Yo, that's crazy.
I mean, quick hands.
That's a six-pound bowling ball or whatever she got.
That's not, I mean, that's not heavy, but that's not nothing.
Bang.
Damn.
You knew quick that was a six-pound.
Yeah.
Pink ball, dog.
That's my shit.
That's my shit.
I mean, honestly, impression.
We should go bowling.
That would be fucked up.
Yo, we should go fucking be bowling, right?
I would.
Yeah.
I miss bowling, right?
Don't you remember going bowling?
Yeah, man.
Bowling?
Damn.
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