Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh dissect Andrew Tate's arrest, debating racial double standards in justice while analyzing his polarized content marketing and crypto Ponzi schemes. They explore global warming conspiracy narratives, prison safety disparities, and the ethics of rent hikes before shifting to Cristiano Ronaldo's $75 million Saudi transfer as "sports washing." The episode concludes with chaotic travel anecdotes from Cartagena and Costa Rica, highlighting the moral dilemmas of street scams versus local economic displacement in developing tourist nations. [Automatically generated summary]
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Tori Lane's Innocence00:12:12
What's up, everybody?
Welcome back.
Happy New Year!
Yes, we did.
We did it.
2022.
Your vibes are immaculate, dude.
Listen, a lot of big stories out there.
Yeah, a lot of stuff.
Tori Lane's in jail.
Yeah.
I think you're going to say innocent.
Tori Lane's innocent.
How would you guys think I was going to say that?
Because it started with N. You put an emphasis on the N there.
Tori, Tori.
Oh, I did.
In jail.
No, Tori Lane's in jail as he should be.
Yeah, yeah.
Because you can't shoot black women.
Nope.
No.
Protect black women.
You protect black women.
You can do whatever you want to white women.
No, that's kind of a shit.
Andrew Tate just got to jail maybe.
He's doing an Alex Media.
He's doing a quick 30.
You know what I mean?
In the European jail.
That's true.
That's about true.
All I'm saying is.
He's doing a hard time.
You do a hard time.
If you shoot a black woman one time, you're doing jail time.
If you imprison and make a bunch of white women in around the clock and then monetize it and keep it and start your own university, if you start your own university teaching young men how to white women allegedly and make money on the internet.
All right.
Okay.
Then you get 30 days.
Then you get maybe 30 days where we can figure it out.
What are they going to figure it out?
It's white women?
Then he gets off.
That's it.
I mean.
If it was a black woman, you think he's getting off?
Absolutely.
You think if Andrew Tate had black women in there, he's going to get off?
Hold on.
You think for a goddamn second, Alex, which is getting off what are you talking about?
He didn't get neither.
That's true.
He ain't getting neither.
Do you think if Andrew Tate had black women in his sex castle in Romania?
Sounds like an ill resort.
Is that a daughter?
Because Andrew, you'll see him like in some of these things.
And the way he talks is wild, but because it's about white women, no one notices.
But he's like, I could just go to Slovakia and I could grab a couple women and bring them back here and then make some money.
And it's like, bruh, if you said this about any other color, it'd be a little crazy, right?
Yeah.
You can't just go to Ghana and come back with three black women.
No.
Probably not.
No.
But that's also been done before.
There's a historical precedent for that being fucked up.
Oh, you think that white people have been slaves?
I'm sure they have.
They don't get the same PR.
You know what I mean?
Why not?
Probably because they also did a lot of things.
In front of the fucking media, that's what it is.
Do the PM?
Are you talking about the BM, dude?
The PM is the black media, bro.
It is crazy.
I'm telling you, man, the black media is a powerful thing.
You can't even shoot black women.
No, it's crazy.
Dude, you can't even be a Canadian guy shooting black women, dude.
Isn't that fucking nuts, man?
Do you think he's guilty?
Who?
Tori Lane.
I know.
You know.
How do you know?
Welcome to now.
He's forced to be aware of.
Are we recording this today?
Yeah, we're recording this today.
He's guilty of shooting Megan the Stallion.
Did you listen to the apology?
The apology for you?
Who's apology?
Tori Lanez.
First of all, he was not right.
Yes, I was.
No, you were.
No, what did you say?
What did you say?
What did you say?
I said, I had the closest to what happened in the world.
Yes.
You got the rest of your pants?
Going back to paper.
Come on.
Yeah, give me muscle worship.
You're so 2022.
Give me my world.
I was so 20 years old.
Your shirt's wrinkled.
Like, I'm like, damn, he looks good.
Come back all happy looking for vacations.
Like, I'll be back.
I explained yourself a little better.
You were in survival mode.
Admit you were in survival mode.
There was a fucking, what is it when the snow comes where you were?
Avalanche.
Avalanche coming to you, right?
And then you had to stop it.
I felt it, you know?
He went back to 2022.
Old shit.
When did you get those in?
Over the break.
How did they do it?
They took one.
You have one.
You have one.
Oh, yeah.
Paul Wall made us grills.
Paul Wall got you one.
Oh, yeah, you said it.
Paul Wall made us grills.
What are you talking about?
Don't take the moldy.
Well, maybe I'm trying to set him up for a joke.
Maybe that's what I'm trying to do.
Maybe I'm trying to ask him questions I know the answer to.
It's like set him up for a joke for the comedy podcast.
Yeah.
Okay.
You just prevented me from getting dunked off, man.
I got no answer.
Okay, but no, come on.
Knock it out of the park.
Listen, you got it.
Okay, okay.
Where were we?
We're talking about Andrew Tate.
Yeah, and how he was right about Tori.
Torrey, yeah.
What did Andrew say about Tori?
What did you say?
What did I say about Tori?
I thought.
You thought he was going to get off.
Listen, I get all my information from Graham Wizard and DJ Academics.
And based on the information that they were putting out, it looked like Tori was coming.
His Instagram journalists misled us.
The Instagram journalists.
This is the only time I've been furious at Graham Wizard, bro.
I've been promoting him every single week.
He got me out here thinking that this black woman that got shot's a liar.
You thought she was a white woman for a long time.
No, I didn't.
No, you didn't.
I didn't do that.
Mark, you both did it.
I thought you didn't say that.
Martin, you said that.
Mark, you went a little too far.
You said you said, oh, I thought Megan Stallion was a white woman.
No.
Martin.
And that's why Tori's going to get off.
I remember you told me.
I remember.
You're going to remember that.
Yeah.
You were saying that white woman.
You called her a show pony.
You called her Megan the show pony.
You said that.
Megan with an H. Wow.
You said that.
I love white women.
I'm trying to free the white women in Tate's castle.
Wow.
Respect.
I'm Mario.
I'm Mario.
You look like Mario.
He said, hey, Texas, Mario.
And I'm going to Romania and I'm going to free the white women from the castle.
You were right about Meg the Stallion.
Yeah.
What were you right about?
That no, he actually told me it seems like the internet's saying she's going to be, he's going to be innocent, but I think he's going to get found guilty.
He said that to me.
And I said that I think they got into kerfuffle in the car.
And then I think Tori.
Kerfuffle is a funny way to do it.
Now he's convicted.
He's shooting a woman.
He called her kerfuffle.
No, Just like altercation.
Altercation.
Who fought, did you think?
Tori Mick.
And then Tori saw that he couldn't beat her, so he took out a gun.
That's what they were kerfuffling about?
Yeah.
What?
Yeah.
No, he's not saying what caused the kerfuffle.
What he's saying is they got no physical altercation.
And then Tori realized I can't beat a snap.
Because there were pictures of their body.
Like, they all had bruises.
Like, they were in a heated fight.
Yeah.
Meg just in like this.
Fucking teasing up to a punching down.
You know, Meg wasn't like that.
It was more like.
You know, did Kelsey was bruised up too?
Kelsey was bruised up too from Tori.
Apparently, Tori was beating on her.
Ah.
I thought the girls would fight.
Yo, it turns out Tori's kind of a piece of shit.
You would have done it.
I should have known when he DM'd me to come on the pod, and I was like, buddy, we're going to have to talk about what's going on.
And then just looked at it, never responded.
I didn't know that.
Right then, in that moment, I should have been like, hey, you might have shot that woman.
There's a good chance.
I didn't know that.
Wait a minute.
When did this happen?
I don't know.
He DM'd me.
I didn't tell him about this.
No, son.
Let me go look.
Chelsea be having the blue checks in his DMs.
No.
Doesn't even body.
I mean, honestly, he's a little sexy.
So far, so far.
Oh, I DM him.
My bad.
Come on, bro.
Come on.
My man, Tori, not like you can see it anyway.
He's like a Wi-Fi.
Yeah, but he was down.
Yeah.
But then the thing you said.
I go, yeah.
This is the name Curly accused of shooting.
Oh my God, dude.
Legend.
You did not say legend.
Let me see.
Legend.
We getting a pod in or what?
Question mark, question mark, question mark.
He goes, we got to do it, my bro.
Where you at?
I go, NYC.
We would love to.
I think you're unreal.
I go, I think you're unreal talented at music, which is true.
That's true.
I go, now, your people don't want us to talk about the stallion situation.
I go, we're not a gotcha podcast.
The goal is to have fun, but we have to at least acknowledge.
Acknowledge what?
The horse.
You definitely shot the fuck out of that black.
You did not say that.
Seeing no response.
Reasonable.
Reasonable.
I'm sorry with Tori and this one.
Nothing else, but this one, I'm with him.
Can I tell you something?
For this one, yeah.
For this one, a million percent out.
No, I go, I go, go, you know, no, but we have to at least acknowledge that we're not discussing it or we seem inauthentic.
And I don't want us to seem inauthentic, obviously.
But then, obviously, seeing no response because he didn't want to talk about what really happened.
And he knew we were going to get to the motherfucking truth.
That brings me to Andrew Tate.
Do you know why you thought he wasn't?
He was comfortable with your fucking teeth all the goddamn time.
Do you know why you thought he was innocent?
Do you remember this?
Why?
You go, Tori Lanez is innocent.
We're like, you said it on the pod.
You said he's in jail.
Eight months ago, when all this happened, we go, why?
And you go, he's at the nightclub the next day.
I was like, what?
And you were like, I seem kind of injured.
He's smiling at the nightclub.
There's no way he did it.
That's what he kind of said.
He put out an album.
He's like, no way he's going to put out new music.
How could you?
You defied all the expectations.
How could you?
How could you not have that, like, just grinding away in your mind?
Why are you acting like you didn't think he was innocent?
OK, killed his wife and then played golf.
Yeah.
Hey, this is honestly.
This is what criminals do.
He got off.
White woman.
Hey.
Hey, hey, good point.
Yo, look at that.
You can shoot white women.
You can shoot white women.
Jodie didn't shoot, to be fair.
Say again?
Oh, they didn't shoot, to be fair.
Yeah, you're right.
He was respectable.
Yeah, you're right.
That's a less crime.
But we don't know if he did that.
We don't know if he did.
No, he didn't.
He technically is innocent.
Unlike Tori, he's innocent.
Who's technically guilty?
Who is technically guilty?
Yes.
And Bill Cosby, who is technically innocent.
He was guilty.
No, he was guilty and then let off on a technicality.
So technically innocent.
No, he's not innocent enough.
He's technically not guilty.
He's not guilty.
Case thrown away.
So he's back to innocence.
I don't know how the math works out, but I think.
No, because you're innocent.
So prove it guilty.
He has to do it.
If you carry the one.
If you carry the one.
Come on.
Do they have that Romania?
You know what Cosby's victims mostly were?
White women.
Exactly.
You can, the shame, the absolute shame in the world that we live in today is you can do almost anything to a white woman and you will get no justice whatsoever.
It is a travesty.
We got to stand up.
We got to protest.
Protect white women?
Yep.
White women's lives matter.
White women's lives matter.
Yep.
Yes.
That's facts.
We got to start it.
100%.
Are you going to march with us?
You know what I say to that?
All women's lives matter.
What do y'all got to do?
What are y'all going to do?
I like that.
That's true.
No.
But right now we're focusing on one woman's life or one group of women's lives who seem to be more affected than the other women's lives.
Yes, what you're saying is true, but we just want to put some focus on the one.
You're just saying it as a reaction.
I personally just don't see color and I want to focus on all women.
But I feel you're doing it to undermine what we're trying to do.
I don't think I am.
No, I don't think I am.
Can you also at least acknowledge?
Can you at least acknowledge what's happening to white women?
I acknowledge what's happening to all women.
Exactly.
Do you, though?
Hey, hey, guys, I get it.
I get why you do this.
It's fun.
It's a fun position to take.
All women's lives matter.
You're a Nazi.
You're a Nazi.
Gender Dynamics in Arguments00:15:35
Yeah.
You're a Nazi.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
You're a fucking man.
You're a Nazi.
Yeah, you are, you mud fucking Nazi.
I've got to stay.
I've got to stay.
You're a Nazi, bro.
That's Nazi shit that you were just doing right there.
We're trying to save white women.
Look at what's happened to white women in the news.
They were in a fucking castle.
I believe in your cost.
I believe in your cost.
What are you going to do about it?
I'm going to donate money so you can buy some mansions.
Wow.
What are we going to do with those mansions?
Stuff more white women in there when they can get fucking sex on camera?
Dude, what does Allah say about that?
What does Allah say about making money on sex and casinos?
Because I don't think Allah's into gambling.
I think you're supposed to share the money equally, right?
Because if you have multiple wives, you just got to give them the same amount of money.
That's where Tate fucked up because he apparently kept all the money.
But is Allah cool with making money off of sex work?
I don't think so.
I feel like if there's one God that could be cool with it, I mean, he was the oldest profession, so he kind of like started it.
No?
Well, I mean, he started it, but he's been there.
He synced it.
He synced it.
Watch yourself.
Watch yourself out.
Watch yourself out.
You just said some wild shit.
That's staying in.
Boss is all in.
Wild shit.
That's staying in.
Hey, hey, remember when we were going to go live?
Yeah, yeah.
You should have.
We should have.
Because everybody would have been a lot better if we went live.
Not everybody just shooting from the hip.
Okay.
That wasn't one?
Shooting from the hip.
What I do.
Because you know Tori's hip height.
I know it's a bad thing.
That was actually a good joke.
That was a good joke, bro.
Good job.
Chosen one.
Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is we're talking about Andrew Tate.
Listen, there are people that come to this podcast for information.
Let me just get back to information.
Andrew Tate has a castle.
Does he not?
Yes.
Maybe I don't know.
He's a castle.
He's a compound at least.
He is a compound.
It's a home.
He's building multiple buildings.
What makes it a castle, though?
Say again?
What makes it something a castle?
Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
Yeah, Dracula's house, castle.
Castle.
What makes a castle to you?
I don't know.
Spires may have stones and stuff.
How gay is that, dude?
Yeah.
A drawbridge?
What are you reading?
Architectural digest?
Yeah.
Can you do all these things when you make a sand castle on the beach?
You put a little drawbridge?
You put a moat at least.
It's not a sand castle if there's no moat.
There's got to be a bunch of stuff.
You don't think it's a castle if it's not a moat?
He probably got it.
He probably got a moat.
Oh, come on.
And there's got to be defense.
There's got to be a defense system, like turrets.
There's some type of place you can shoot arrows or drop tars.
He's top G, bro.
Son, what's the leg?
I don't know if he has those things.
I'm saying if it's a home, if it's just a regular domicile, I don't know if it's a castle.
Can we just first acknowledge that we're boring the fuck out of the audience right now?
I just think if we're going to talk about castles, we should be specific.
Okay, we can't just call it.
We walked up.
We walked up.
Doug just left.
We can't just call any old thing a castle.
He walked out of the fucking room.
Okay.
He just calls things castles.
Okay, okay.
So we won't call it a castle.
Andrew Tate is a legend.
I mean, no, no, wait, no.
Andrew Tate.
So Andrew Tate is in prison for 30 days.
Yes.
On what?
Not sex trafficking.
That's what everyone thought at first.
They thought it was sex trafficking.
Organized crime allegations, correct?
Connection to what?
The mafia.
Yeah.
Is that it?
Organized crime.
So yeah, I guess you would go and believe mafia.
Okay.
But there's a few allegations.
They've been investigating since his last arrest in April.
Allegedly, he one of his women that was making like $55,000 a month on the Cams that he was forcing to work said she didn't make a dollar off of it.
So that's sex slavery, I assume.
Well, she wasn't a top earner.
Measly 50, fuck.
$55,000 a month, bro.
Come on.
That's 700K a year.
Come on, step it up.
Step it up.
Okay.
That's top B, I think.
So also there was four people arrested, Andrew Tate, Tristan Tate, and then two other Romanian women, apparently.
And they said one of the suspects, they didn't say who, but I think raped a woman twice using violence and then psychological abuse or something like that.
I don't necessarily that's the allegations.
Violence seems like the more pressing.
You know what I mean?
And are they saying one of the two people they've detained is accused of doing that?
One of another Decane detained.
So it could be the women, which I doubt.
Or Andrew or Tristan.
Yeah.
Right.
These are the allegations.
These are the allegations.
Okay.
Okay.
This is big.
Yeah.
This is big.
I thought Greta Thunberg put him in jail.
That's what everybody thought because the timing was dubious.
That's what I believed.
Because he was talking that shit to Greta, and then they said that they used the pizza boxes in his retaliation video to prove that he was in town and then they arrested him.
Apparently, that's bullshit.
Yeah.
Apparently that's not true.
Okay.
Which is one of those things that when you hear about it first, you're like, whoa, that's so crazy.
And then after you think about it.
It would have been so funny.
Yeah, there's no way they're like watching his streams like, we got him.
Like they just couldn't see his passport like when he got in the country and they're like, yeah, he's here.
Or just drive up to the castle and see if he's there.
Yeah.
Right?
You just knock on the door and be like, hey, is Andrew here?
Yeah, there's got to be other ways for the government to know if you're in the country other than like you ordering like pepperoni pizzas.
100%.
Okay.
So what the Thunberg thing was funny as fuck, though.
What the...
We just never seen Andrew Tate take an L?
Yeah.
And then to take it from Greta Thunberg.
That's not a good look.
Not a good look.
Well, I don't even know why he picked that fight.
Isn't that like a pretty bad chess move?
His dad would be disappointed.
But I feel like people take shots at her all the time.
But he like went specifically at her about global warming.
And then it's like, dude, you're picking a fight with a teenage girl.
If you win, what do you get?
You dunk on her?
Is everybody going to celebrate?
Or if she dunks on you, is the whole world going to be like, this is amazing?
You know what I mean?
It was a stupid move.
And I really think that was the first time we saw him fall.
And then that made the jail thing more like, yeah, dude, it's ready.
I feel like somehow we're more like okay with it.
Yeah.
Because we saw him take that blow.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, I love trying to dunk on Greta Thunberg.
I don't know what you're talking about at all.
The whole point of this podcast is almost dedicated to talking about Greta.
Where did you go on vacation?
Where did you go?
Son, you tweeted at her or you tweeted at her.
You went at a bunch of people and then Thunberg was a part of it and you made fun of a thousand people.
I made a tweet to Greta like the day before he did.
I'm pretty sure, like a video.
I've posted some kind of story or something.
Maybe she doesn't think you have small dick energy.
Maybe she thinks you have big dick energy.
That's also possible.
It is what it is.
I don't know.
I did something.
I forget.
Maybe it was a tweet.
Maybe it was something.
Oh, yeah.
I saw somebody like save the fucking, I saw somebody save.
Oh, no, the guy planted the most trees ever.
It was like some Canadian kid planted 23,000 trees in a day.
Fuck that kid.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we got actually a lot of tweets about Greta.
Oh, yeah.
An insane amount.
Now that I'm looking at it.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Listen, I love it.
I love it.
She didn't give you the energy, though.
Why do you think that is?
She don't want to smoke.
She knows what time it is.
She doesn't want to smoke.
That's a greenhouse gas.
You know what I mean?
That's true.
That's true.
That's good.
I see that.
Yeah, I don't know what the Andrew Tate thing.
You know what's interesting?
I was watching this talk that he did with, fuck, what is this girl's name?
She's a redhead.
Pearl.
Pearl?
Yeah.
So it was Pearl and it was Brittany Renner.
There was another girl and Andrew Tate.
I saw a couple clips from this.
And here's the interesting thing about Tate.
Tate has really fascinating observations about gender dynamics.
I know this is going to sound crazy if you're someone who's never ingested his content besides like the most salacious shit that comes out on TikTok.
I was one of those same people.
And I'd always hear people copying pleas for him, going, no, he makes some really good points.
And I'd go, it seems like he's just saying the wildest shit possible that's also funny.
Like, what are you talking about?
He also makes good points, right?
And then I saw him in discussion with these women.
And now I understand what they're saying.
He has really interesting observations about gender dynamics.
And the problem is, and I don't know if it's a problem.
I'm projecting what I would want if I was in his situation.
Maybe he wants this exact thing.
Maybe he wants to be talked about nonstop and he wants the excitement and the chaos that goes on with being one of these like incredibly politicized figures.
But the problem is the way that he delivers his information, and maybe this is because of the algorithm, it is indigestible to women and it is candy to men.
The people that actually could benefit from a lot of things that he says are women, but they'll never be able to touch it because the way it's communicated is for men.
And I know this sounds crazy if you haven't watched long form conversations with what he's talking about.
I'll give you an example.
He's just talking about like the importance of status.
There was a really good one.
Status.
Status.
But no, he was talking about a really interesting thing about like with Britney Renner.
Brittany Renner has been like very public about all the guys that she's been with.
And he was talking about why this would be very difficult for a man.
Because even because when he's with you, he is competing with all the people that you've slept with.
And the reality of she's fucked all these NBA players, these like super rich guys, these rappers and all these things.
The guy that she settles with might not be as rich as the NBA players, as famous as the rappers, as talented as any of them.
So he might always feel insecure.
And if it's your job to make your man feel like the king of the household, and he can't because he's constantly competing with your past, he's always going to feel that insecurity and then treat you based on that insecurity.
And it's a really interesting argument for the idea of having either a low body count or just being quiet about your body count.
It's one thing to fuck a lot of rappers and have a pass and do all these things, but you displaying it on the internet, writing a book about it, telling everybody puts you in a position where you might be alone because there's not going to be a guy that's going to want to put up with that baggage.
Just to round out the point, regardless if you agree with it or disagree with it, that information is probably valuable to a lot of women growing up today that are like running with the whole thought is a personality identity and sharing all their exploits online.
And then they reach 30 and they're like, why am I alone and single and nobody wants to put up with me?
I think that this is just one of the arguments he made.
And he didn't make it in a way that was like really insulting or degrading to women.
It was just like a really interesting observation about gender dynamics.
And I'm sitting there and I'm going, wow, like the people that would benefit the most from this are not men because we know it.
We feel these things innately.
Maybe he can package them in a way that we go, oh, that's how I feel.
But we feel these things already.
The people that would benefit from this are the women that don't understand why men feel certain ways about certain situations, why we don't want to know necessarily about your past.
Why I don't want to know a single thing because I don't want to start competing in my head with these people that exist for you already.
They'll never be able to digest that because of how polarized he is.
And he chose to be that polarized.
Yeah.
The genius of that, I think, and this is where he can be so smart, is rooting it in a vulnerability, which is true.
It's based on our insecurity.
And when you present it that way, it's so much more palatable.
And he can do that whenever he wants to.
And we've always said this.
The thing that separates him from everyone else in that world is he can package his points smarter than everybody else.
He's just the best at packaging it.
And I personally think he doesn't mind all the chaos in the same way that he has the same superpower that Trump has, that I guess we say Jay Paul has, where it's like, look, I don't mind if you hate me.
I understand.
As long as you are talking about me, I'm going to get where I want to go.
The tricky thing is, is once he gets there, is he going to want to pivot to more nuanced points, which he's clearly capable of making or like packaging them in this really nice, vulnerable, like, holy shit, we could all learn something from this guy kind of way?
Or is he going to be like, well, I got to do what's made me get this famous and stick with that.
He's good at packaging it for men, though.
Yeah.
Like, he's not good at packaging it for all people.
And I'm, I kind of, I don't want to interrupt you.
Go, make your point.
Make your point.
I guess I just look at all media or a lot of media like that.
We're like, you know, if you listen to like a right-wing commentator, there's probably some truth to what they're saying in specific instances.
But they're packaging it for there.
But they're packaging it to get views and make money rather than to actually impact change.
Like if you're trying to hit the people that need to hear it the most, you try to wrap it in a conversation that's palatable to those people.
Like I thought that dude, Emmanuel Acho, like when he was doing like those uncomfortable conversations like during COVID, during like all the BLM stuff, he was making it to be like, okay, this is going to be approachable for like white people to listen to, blah, blah, blah.
And he wasn't trying to make it vitriolic just to appease a black base to be like, okay, let's make money.
It seemed like he actually wanted to do that.
It's what we did with the turn your phones.
We specifically did them in a way where it wouldn't alienate either side of the people that felt a way about this issue, but also spoke to the things that they were above feeling.
It's really hard to do.
It's much harder.
It's way easier to just fall into the comfort of the people who already support you.
The unfortunate part of that is that you lose out on the people who actually need the information.
It's like what I was talking to Jordan Peterson about.
And I was like, my only issue, Jordan, with you going with the Daily Wire is that the people that actually will benefit from your information are the people who would never consume something on the Daily Wire, which are the people who might lean way more left.
They could probably benefit from the things you're saying and the way that you articulate things and the way you present your arguments.
They're really sound, but just having that label is going to make them go, oh, Ben Shapiro, right-wing, super conservative.
I don't want anything to do with that.
So I agree with you in terms of my first understanding of Tate was just like the clips that went, well, he was saying salacious shit.
And I was like, oh, this guy's a piece of shit.
He's like, and like, I was like, this is actually bad for relationships and like men and women.
And then hearing that podcast, I was like, okay, some of your ideas, I get it.
And he is right about, I wouldn't say a lot, but like he is right.
And so, but then he like packages it in this surface level way of thinking that is like, if a guy hears, it's like, yeah, yeah.
And then for a woman, just like, oh, fuck, I just have to just deal with it.
And like the type of things he'll say, he's like, you know, if you're a top G, I should be able to just sleep with women.
And like, you just have to take that.
You have to, and it's like, it helped package these.
I thought the conclusions of it were misguided.
Yeah.
But the information might have been somewhat true.
He's also speaking from an emotional place.
So we all know how we want the world to be.
Yeah.
But we're also limited by like primal emotions.
Yeah.
Of course.
Right.
And he's speaking to how a behavior that a woman exhibits could make a man, her partner, feel.
And then how he feels is going to indicate how he behaves in that relationship.
And that's important shit because if you look at every one of these female magazines, why he acts like this, when?
Why he pretends he's tired?
When?
Why he doesn't want to sleep.
It's a bunch of women telling women how men act and why they act.
And now you have a guy doing it, but he's doing it in a way where no women will ever want to listen when they could really benefit.
At that point, let me ask you this.
That point, actual question, how would women receive that poorly?
Would it just be, I don't have to deal with your insecurity or what?
I thought you articulated the points really well for women on that podcast specifically because he was talking to all women.
The Problem with Red Pill Extremes00:07:52
And that's what happens.
When you reach across the aisle, you're forced to sort of like compromise on some of the crazy stuff to make it approachable.
But when you're just in your own little echo chamber, you don't have to do that.
When you have four dudes that are going to go...
Just cheer you on.
You go crazy.
And your emotions take over.
And when the environment is created so that you're supposed to dunk on these girls.
Like, for example, Tate on Fresh and Fit or whatever.
The environment is, hey, dunk on these girls who aren't ready or equipped for these arguments.
When he's talking to those four girls who all have thought about their arguments, have thought about their positions and have thought about why they feel that way.
Now he has to come more nuanced.
He's going to get pushback.
It's not going to be some thought who's thought about her eyelashes all day.
It's going to be a girl who's sitting there going, my life is tough because of this and I need to know why.
You saw Brittany kind of like open up and like almost like ask for advice.
I saw that clip actually and then I saw the Clementine clip, which was funny.
But that clip, what was also interesting is the girl who had Tate on found him funny.
And I think that was also disarming.
Like you could tell she had, she's like, let's have our fun.
You're a fun guy.
You're a funny guy.
And I think it also created an environment where it's like, hey, we can all pearl.
But she's a big fan.
She's a super fan of fun.
Yeah, she's super.
I think she's like Red Pill Girl.
Oh, she's Red Pill Girl.
Yeah, like she's, I think people would call her like the Tate, but a girl.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Which is like a very interesting position to be in.
That's almost like Candace Owens.
You know, it's a weird thing to compare to, but in the same way where like you yield power because at least a guy can watch and be like, see, a woman gets it.
Because anyway, you speak to the other side.
Exactly.
Where white people can look at canist and be like, see, black people do.
Okay.
Be annoying.
So I had put up just like a little poll on my story.
Just a little excerpt from the podcast.
And I asked people, like, how do you feel about this?
And I just wanted to get their responses.
It's so crazy how different based on gender people like.
What was the excerpt?
It was about like men just wanting a woman to like, I think, either be agreeable or like less pushback and less battling or whatever the case is.
And it's like, I would say half the women who responded didn't even take it in.
They're just like, Tate's a piece of shit.
Fuck it.
Yeah, they're not going to listen.
The other half is like, I kind of see what he's saying, but no guy, every guy would get bored with that woman and would eventually leave and want to cheat on him.
It's not.
And then all the guys are like, he's speaking facts.
And I'm like, whoa.
Here's the thing about the agreeability thing.
First of all, it's great.
Like I've had, I've had, I've had, my wife got pissed at me once.
I was walking on the way home and I was like, man, I hope we agree tonight.
Like, I was dreaming about agreeing, right?
Like, now, now here's the problem.
Like, I wasn't going, I hope we fuck.
I wasn't going, I hope dinner's great.
I was like, I hope we agree.
I just want to walk in the house and be like, it was cold today.
And I just need her to be like, yes, it was cold.
And I'm like, well, for this time of year.
So I understand the idea of agreeability.
Yeah, can we just get like a normal time?
Just 72 is good.
Just put 72 and I promise I won't say anything else about it.
Okay.
So here's the thing, right?
With agreeability.
The problem with agreeability and then never ever expressing your opinion, at least for someone like me, is that I will lose faith that that's how you actually feel.
And I will feel more insecure that you're just bending to what I want and not being who you really are.
So now I can't trust your reactions and I can't trust your emotions.
If I can't trust your emotions or reactions, I feel more insecure.
And I kind of feel like I can't trust you, period.
So it creates...
Just to give a bit more nuance, he actually said he doesn't want to push over.
Like he wants somebody to have their own viewpoint, but on little things like the temperature or what we're doing.
Yeah, he right, right?
That motherfucker right, dog.
Hey, bro.
Hey, how much that university?
Because like men do want to feel like, hey, we're leading.
Like, trust us that we're leading us in the right direction.
And it's like, if women just give you pushback every step of the way, it's like, oh, you don't trust me.
Yeah.
And that's how we feel.
Women are just like, no, I'm just voicing how I feel or I'm voicing my opinion or whatever the case is.
And it's like, that's just, I just saw with the responses, the clear disconnect of that type of people.
And then sometimes women feel like if they don't give some pushback or some reaction, they don't have a voice at all.
And when you feel like you don't have a voice at all, sometimes you amplify your voice about everything to make sure that you have a voice to you.
Yeah.
Right.
So now we're in this situation where it's truly just ego.
A man's ego going, I want to feel like I'm the man of the house.
And a woman's ego, well, I don't want to feel like I'm nothing in the house.
I don't feel like a typical 50s woman with no opinion.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And this is where I think you get the pushback towards feminism, at least from like the Red Phil space, which is like, they're going to go, feminism has made you think that you have to have an opinion about everything and give shit.
And if not, you're getting walked over in your house.
And it's like, yeah, the most extreme version of that.
But the opposite is you're just sitting there like a little dove quietly, not saying a single thing.
And now your man is feeling insecure.
Are you even happy?
Do you like like how often you want to go get something to eat?
Sure.
What do you want?
I don't care.
We don't want that.
What do you want?
I don't know.
That's not what you want at all.
That's the worst.
I like it when my girl is sure about the things that she, it makes me feel confident when my girl is sure about the things that she likes.
Because I know when she's happy about something, it's real.
I need to be able to trust your emotions.
I need that.
So that's the other, the problem with the other extreme, which is like the red pill extreme, is you could create a person where you can't trust anything that they say.
If you can't trust anything they say, that's no foundation for a relationship.
But yeah, I think it's also on the man to open up the conversation.
Like if you are quote unquote leading in your relationship, and I don't think every relationship needs to follow the same exact thing necessarily, but if you are in a relationship where the guy's leading and the girl is sort of like in a, I guess, I don't know, like she's following your leadership, you need to open up that space and be like, hey, how do you actually feel about us and create an environment where she's able to talk freely?
Like if you've created it where you don't like listen to her opinion, or if she voices something and you just like shut it down, that's on you for creating a hostile environment for her to share what she thinks.
And if she raises her opinion and you can't tell her why, this is why I think long, long term, this is the best move for us.
That's on you.
If you can't communicate what you think your vision is and why it's that way and why you're going to get there with this route, you probably don't deserve to have it.
But he was saying he doesn't want to always have to explain everything.
All the time.
No, no.
Every single time.
I'm signing up for Hustle University.
Don't think I'm not.
So we read Pillow.
I'm orange at least.
But it is the power of communication.
Yeah.
It's like, if his career was built on only going on female podcasts, explaining these principles to them, there's a different version of Andrew Tate.
And I don't know if it touches as many guys.
That's, yeah.
I don't know if it does as many guys.
I don't know if it's as big of a version.
And it might not be.
And it might not make the views.
It might not do it.
It's like, even with the episode that Pearl put out, I think the name of the episode is Tate Destroys Feminists.
Exclamation point.
It's just like, and I get it.
You're tapping into the algorithm.
We all tap into the algorithm.
The problem with that is you're isolating the people that actually would benefit from the message through that algorithmic cocoon that's created.
It's just every dude that just wants to see feminist owners clicking that.
Instead of a few women, they're like, oh, wait a minute.
Is that why my boyfriend or my husband reacts with such insecurity when I do that?
Crypto Ponzi Schemes Explained00:15:31
Yeah.
Oh, fuck.
And just because they do doesn't make it right, but at least you know why they have that impulse.
That's really important.
It's not necessarily you.
It's shit baked in our DNA from fucking millions of years of evolution.
Yeah.
I guess it's also the intention of the message.
Like he might be packaging it incidentally the way that he is because he's just going based off how he feels.
But if the intention of it is like empathy, like with this Brittany Render thing, I haven't seen the clip.
But if the feeling is like, oh, let me actually help you.
I think the message is interpreted completely differently than if the intention is, let me dunk you.
First thing he says, I'm pretty sure is you're right.
There is a double standard.
Like he does.
And that's unfair.
He says it's unfair, which is even more like, but he doesn't say it like, fuck you.
Yes, unfair.
He's like, no, you're right.
You're right to feel this.
It is unfair.
Here's why we think it's unfair.
And it's like, oh, that.
But again, he's so funny and so good at creating gravity.
And the best way to do that is by being funny and being salacious.
I think the reason he rose like a comet is I got to be salacious and I can back it up with comedy and packaging.
So the question I have is if you're making so much money from Hustlers University, if you're which he is, and if you're famous and people love you and people are into what you're doing, you're getting a deal, I imagine, from Rumble, you're making tons of money over there.
Why even dabble in the shit that could get you arrested like you are now?
Why even still continue to do that?
I think that, I think it is old shit.
So this is coming from like years ago?
I thought this was definitely from a few months ago.
No, I think he, like, once Hustlers University blew up, like he stopped all the sex deaths.
I don't know if that's the case, but that's why.
I think the allegation, I mean, the allegation, the first one, April 22nd, I think or whatever, April 2022, that got him arrested.
A girl flew out from America, and then I think her parents called the U.S. Embassy.
Like she's, for whatever reason, they reported him, but that's when it started.
And I don't know.
I think allegations are from still around that time, I think.
Because I think they've been investigating him for nine months.
I could be wrong on this.
He just talks about like the sex hotline.
Like that was something he used to do.
Yeah.
It doesn't seem like he still does.
It seems like it's mostly money stuff.
Like I'm assuming he's getting paid all through the internet, making all his money through Hustlers University, getting paid in the United States, technically, blah, blah, blah, and like shuffled some numbers around.
And then now the Romanian IRS is going for him.
Yeah.
That's what I'm assuming.
I mean, that's who always gets you.
Duke.
I mean, isn't that, what's his face, Alcohol?
Yeah.
You get everybody who does the, you know, yeah, you get all the mafia dudes with the money shit because they're too insulated.
You're not going to get them with the murders.
You're not going to get them with the, maybe the racketeering a little bit.
I guess Rico is the charge that they use now to do it.
I don't know if they even have Rico in Romania.
What do you think of the way that Tate's framing all of these things that are happening?
So like I saw him saying a bunch where he's like, okay, look, they canceled me once.
And I know that that's bad.
And I'm intimidated by that because you get three lives.
They cancel you and then they put you in jail and then they try to kill you.
And I've already lost one of my lives.
And he said this like a few months ago.
So I just want to let you know, I will not kill myself.
I am not going to kill you.
I mean, to me, I think it's brilliant marketing, right?
Which is you already know that there's an investigation going on in you.
Obviously, if he's as big as he is, if he's the top G in Romania, he has people in the probably the police department or their version of the FBI or whatever the fuck it is who are like, yo, there's an ongoing investigation about you.
You know that you're eventually going to go back in jail.
So of course go on all these platforms and then say, the Matrix is coming for me.
Is it the Matrix or is it the motherfucking police that have said, hey, we're building this case against you?
You know what else?
To that point, I was when I was looking.
It's like Tori going, listen, the Matrix is after me.
I mean, I know I shot this woman in the foot, but the Matrix is conspiring to put me in prison.
Yeah.
I was looking for that Greta Thunberg tweet to send you guys and I was looking at his Twitter.
And I don't know if he's always tweeted like this, but it seemed like it was a lot of like super red pill shit like if you wore a mask, I stopped being your friends.
If you got the vex, we stopped being friends.
You're a follower.
was like super speaking to that group of people that if you know you might get arrested they're still gonna ride with you and you can say it's a conspiracy and it's the matrix and this group of people is completely in a believe it seemed like it was shifting that way because he might have known some smoke was coming and maybe that's why he went agreed actually in the long term he's like look let me go at this global warming let me go at the super left i mean super left to get the super right to like me so if when i get arrested i can say it's all conspiracy and they're gonna ride with me maybe yeah i mean it's classic storytelling Yeah,
it's the classic hero's journey.
Yeah.
Like an individual, you know, sacrifices himself to, you know, protect a group from a, what is it, like a tyrannical leader that's abusing their power selfishly.
And yeah, you could just find it over and over in every single story, at least Western stories.
Does he stay in prison, you think?
I think he gets convicted or like with money charges, it's just going to be like tax evasion, pay the fine.
I imagine with a guy who makes money internationally, it's incredibly easy to pin tax evasion.
Yeah.
Especially if you're making money through crypto shit.
I mean, I think he was making some money through crypto.
Somebody shit.
You're making money through.
I saw a wild thing on crypto.
I got to send to you.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
The price of the thing.
No, it's just crypto.
It's what we always knew.
It's just a Ponzi scheme.
It's technology for the Ponzi scheme.
It's what we always knew.
We always knew it, bro.
Torrey was guilty.
When I was buying it in that moment, I knew it.
We buy into Ponzi schemes all the time.
We do it all the time because we're greedy.
And we just want to make sure we get there before the rogues pulled out.
But like the thing about the thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's a fact.
No, everybody wants in on the Ponzi scheme.
You just don't want to be left with a bill.
But everybody wants it.
Everybody wanted in with Madoff.
You don't think these people knew?
They're not dumb.
Some must have.
Like, they all knew.
I don't think they're all.
Buddy, buddy.
They all have access to the same tools, right, for their trades.
Every one of these hedge funds have access to the same tools and find the way.
There's no way that Bernie Madoff and three other people like have found some crazy new way to make 15% every single year.
They know there's some wild shit going on.
They don't know it's necessarily a Ponzi scheme like that, but they know there's some corrupt shit going on.
They're like, listen, I'm on that bill.
You handle the biz.
Pay me my fucking money.
That's what it was.
They might have known some shit going on, but I don't think they thought it was an actual school.
Fair enough.
It wasn't that extreme, but nobody was surprised something illegal happened.
Oh, yeah.
Right?
They were just surprised they lost all their money.
But they knew that something illegal was happening, right?
So I say the same thing with crypto.
It's just like, this is the thing that I watched this video and they said this brilliantly.
It's like, you know how they're like, crypto, it's going to replace the internet.
It's the new thing.
It's like crypto's been around for what, 13 years?
Yeah, probably.
Okay.
When the internet was around for 13 years, what could you do with it?
You could do emails.
You could look up the fucking weather.
You could transfer information like you've never had before.
There are websites with actual, there was actual things built on the internet that were utilized by us to improve our lives.
Crypto's been around for 13 years.
Nothing's happened.
Not a single thing has happened besides other ways to create Ponzi schemes.
So it goes Bitcoin, right?
Then it goes, okay, anybody can make a coin after Ethereum comes out and use Ethereum's blockchain to create your coins.
So now everybody just creates a coin.
So more Ponzi schemes.
And then they go, okay, fine.
They're realizing it's a Ponzi scheme.
NFTs, they pivot to MFCs.
Oh, new Ponzi scheme.
NFTs are done.
Web3, let's sell land that doesn't exist.
Ponzi scheme is the whole, it's just new Ponzi schemes over and over.
They're going to come for you for this, bro.
The Matrix is going to be all the heat books on our diagram.
The Matrix is coincidentally.
And I knew it from the beginning.
I was like, it's just Ponzi schemes.
But I did.
And I was, and I lost the most.
Just let me know.
I only got the most.
I only bought at the high.
You at least had a moment where you made money and you felt good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Never one time in my whole existence with crypto have I made a penny.
You know why?
I bought it the high, it went down, I bought it that one, it went, I bought it that one, it went further.
Hey guys, that's what you shouldn't do.
I'll buy you Bitcoin if you want.
I'll buy your Bitcoin if you want.
You buy it at my original price.
Why the fuck would I ever do that?
Pussy?
It's going to go to 100K.
It's going to go to 100K.
You don't believe in it.
I'm not going to steal a Coinbase.
Why would I sell it to you now?
I could sell it to anybody.
Dumbass?
Yeah, so sell it.
You fucking idiot.
I could go right now and just sell it.
So sell it.
You'd give me a reason to sell it.
I'm the dumbass?
Yes.
I'm not the one who already bought it.
But why'd you say, I'll buy it from you?
Like, I can't just sell it.
Because, you know, we're making content.
Anyway, that was good.
So, anyway.
So, look, anytime, if you're willing to buy at my original prices, I'll sell it to you.
But if not, no.
So the point about the crypto thing is all it is is one Ponzi scheme after another.
And it's so funny.
And it's good.
Ponzi schemes have existed forever.
We're going to keep on making them.
It is what it is.
But you think they'd make like one piece of technology that like offered utility.
Like even like the smart contracts, right?
They're like, oh, it's going to replace contracts.
You don't even need lawyers anymore.
It's like, no, you fucking do, asshole.
You need a judge to look at the contract and look what both sides signed up for and see if one side was violated or the other side was violated.
You still need a human to look at it.
This contract that's on the blockchain isn't going to do anything to stop that.
It's a Ponzi scheme.
Now, no, I would say nobody ever, I don't think anybody ever said crypto would replace the internet.
It literally was the marketing for every single.
This is more impactful than the invention of the internet.
This is the new energy.
Web 3.
It's more impactful than the invention of the internet.
I don't agree with, but it's not replacing the internet.
Well, Web3 is supposed to replace the internet.
Web3, okay, for sure.
Yeah, okay.
I guess that's okay, fair.
I see what you're saying now.
But I just thought Bitcoin could replace money, and I still think a universal currency could happen, especially if we go metaverse and live online and all that shit.
But I don't think it's not decentralized.
Also, the wealth of crypto is more centralized than any money that exists on the planet right now.
The amount of people, like you can actually look at the amount of people that are holding Bitcoin.
There's nothing decentralized about it.
There's like 10 fucking people.
The mining is not decentralized.
Half of it happens in China.
Half it happens El Salvador.
It's like the biggest fucking lie has been told to us.
And because we were making a little money, we're like, I'm not going to look at any of that shit.
But we all knew it.
You could very well be right.
I'm pushing back based on what I'm hearing, but I'm not going to act like I know the most.
I assume they mean there's no, what is it, IMF or whatever the, what's the international bank?
That's what they're saying when they say decentralized.
There's not people who can just come fuck with the value and inflate it and deflate it.
However, they can't make more whenever they want to.
Well, they can, depending on the coin, with Bitcoin.
But with the other ones.
Yeah, with the other ones, absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah, 100%.
We bought into all that.
I'm not saying Bitcoin is the best or.
CX can just make it disappear.
Yeah, that's true.
That they did.
It's just like there's no rules to this shit.
That they did.
I'm just saying it's like fucking...
Why was this YouTube video, bro?
I gotta send it to you.
Schultzi with a Wi-Fi connection is crazy.
As soon as this guy gets on YouTube, it's a, if you get a good documentary in Schultz's head, you are famous.
Tomorrow, you're gonna be famous.
Schultz watches your documentary.
James Janney, thank you for.
Yo, that's my boy.
He's fire.
Yeah.
See now?
Yeah, I love that.
That shit is fired.
James Janney, brilliant.
James Janney, he's got amazing ones.
No, no, he's like, it's a great, it's an hour.
See?
That's so funny.
I even know that.
That's hilarious.
Don't even watch the hour.
That's my tape.
James Jane is my tape.
Whatever that motherfucker says is true.
I believe anything James Jenny says because I already agree with it.
So once you satisfy the feelings I already have, you're brilliant.
That's how people work.
You didn't know that's how people work?
If I feel something and then you tell me a smart way about how I'm right about my feelings, you're smart.
That is Andrew Tate.
That is a bit of a ticket.
That is a total.
And you can make fun of your friend.
You can don't.
Because all they care about is money.
That guy's on it.
Let's go.
That guy's a genius.
Andrew Schultz dunks on Arcar Six.
Yes.
Let's do it.
This is not an attack on you.
And I don't hold you responsible.
I'm attacking you.
We are diagnosed.
Our greed is what's responsible.
I still believe, so I don't feel attacked.
No, Let me say this.
Let me say this.
He's right to believe because I'll say this: because another wave of the greed will happen.
What I'm saying is eventually you're going to have to get out.
It doesn't have to be this wave or the next wave or 10 waves.
Yeah.
Right.
But there's eventually there's going to be a time where you have to get out.
We got to get you a documentary, bro.
Like if you even look at all the propaganda in the language, it's brilliant.
Like the language is all propaganda and the people don't even realize it.
They go, diamond hands, hauddle or whatever like that.
Hold on for dear life.
All these terms are used to keep, to trick you into keeping your money in the coin so these other people that are waiting to rug pull can inflate it enough so they can get their shit out immediately.
It's just genius.
And then people identify with the terms like, oh, dude, you have paper hands, you fucking pussy.
Give me paper hands.
I've whisked my hands with me at paper.
These diamonds are bad.
These problems are not diamond hands.
You don't know how to get in your phone.
You don't know the password.
First of all, they are diamond hands because diamonds have no real value either.
Tell your wives that I already did.
So yeah, it's just, again, I think that you will make money.
I genuinely think you will.
I just think stuff isn't worth as much as we think it is.
He genuinely does not.
No, no, I genuinely think.
Don't be the narrator of this poverty.
Put it this way.
I think that there will be another opportunity for you to make money, whether he takes his money out or not.
Yeah.
And will you be happy for him when he makes all that money?
Well, here's the other thing about it.
He's going to buy back.
He's going to be mad.
Wait, he's making money.
No, don't.
1,000%.
Let me tell you something.
1,000%.
This is the trickiest thing.
This is the new flying card.
This is the new flying thing about Sam Bankman-Fried.
Yes.
Sam Bankman-Fried is a villain.
He's a villain to all the people that lost money with him.
He is the most evil person on the planet.
To the people who never invested in crypto and saw idiots get smart and saw idiots get rich for no reason, he's a hero.
He's a hero.
Yeah.
The majority of people, I mean this is here.
The majority of people saw Sam Bankman Fried loses $40 billion worth of crypto and they go, Let's go!
Believe that.
$1,000.
Nobody feels bad about anybody that loses money gambling and crypto's gambling.
Yeah.
So nobody feels that the tragedy is there's like guys like fucking that threw his entire fucking life savings into FTX thinking that it was his one opportunity to make money like serious money in his life for his retirement.
That's fucking tragic.
We never think of those people.
We think about some fucking guy in his basement.
Now, now.
Alex has gold on his teeth, bro.
His teeth are full of gold.
He's like, man, he's poor broke motherfucker.
He's investing personal medals.
Gold, gold.
Gold, so those people suck, but nobody identifies those people as the investors of crypto.
They think about the crypto billionaire.
Listen, here's the reality when it comes to this is the reality when it comes to life in general.
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If your friends who have never made money in their life.
I know which friend you're talking about specifically.
It's not me.
It's you.
If your friends who have never made money.
I've got a friend way more rich that started way more broke.
If your friends who have never made money, hey, shouts, buddy.
Let's know who you are.
If your friends who have never made money in their life start making money based on a thing, it's bullshit.
He's still mad.
Remember, we started Patreon for a reason.
Remember where you were.
You won Bitcoin.
Remember where you were.
It's not like you were flux with fucking money, okay?
Your point is.
This is my Bitcoin.
Say again?
This is my Bitcoin.
What is?
This podcast.
No, no.
No.
What is your Bitcoin?
This podcast is real.
Put us in there.
This is a real thing that we like work and make money on.
That's kind of tangible, right?
That is a fungible token.
I look like a born ape, but I'm not.
So the point is, the point is, if anybody, like Doug pointed this out, he goes, he had all these people that were making tons of money on mortgages in around 2007.
All of his friends, his fucking dumb friends who didn't even fucking graduate college, making all this money and fucking mortgages.
Fucking idiots, baboons, making money in fucking mortgages.
Once you see your friends making money in mortgages, immediately go, this is falling apart.
Do you remember this?
We're in a fucking hotel in Arizona.
We're in the pool, and there's these like five British people, no teeth, talking about like, yeah, we just, you know, we travel all over the world, blah, blah, blah.
We made all this money in crypto.
And they were like trying to hustle us into crypto.
Do you remember this at the pool?
Nope.
And they were like, these like hillbillies.
Yeah, they're hillbillies from England.
And they were like, yeah, you know, we've been doing crypto.
We've been selling try.
It's a new, it's the future, bro.
And like literally no teeth.
Like their tongue was like hanging out.
No, that's just British.
Yeah, I guess.
Problem.
And I was looking at this and I was like, oh, yeah, this is good.
This is like a year and a half ago.
And I was like, yeah, this is not good.
Can I say the other one that's about to go?
Oh, yeah, please.
Everybody's making money in real estate now, right?
Every fucking idiot.
Every fucking idiot is making money in real estate right now, right?
Every New York apartment's going for $5 million fucking dollars.
This house over here is going for $20 million.
It's going down.
It's going down.
Okay?
If your friend's wife who never had a job in her life is making money in real estate, it's going down.
Bad.
Did you make money in your apartment?
Don't you rent your place?
No, I'm luckily losing.
That's why I'm already.
How are you the only person losing money?
I'm fine.
How are you losing money in your apartment?
You have a beautiful place.
I'm going to raise the fucking rent because she cries every time.
And I have a heart.
I want to raise the rent $100.
I'm literally paying for it.
Listen to more Andrew Tate immediately.
Listen to more Andrew Tate.
You're a zip.
You're being manipulated, bro.
You're paying for this woman.
You're living in my home.
You got to rent it.
I did.
You're getting pimped.
I tried, and then she starts crying, and I just can't do it.
I can't do it.
So I just paid for her.
I just wish talked to her.
I can't.
Listen to more Andrew Tate.
Listen to three videos.
I'm your friend.
Talk to her.
I had the best financial year of my life, and I'm still going to go to this poor woman who's like, come on, bro.
Come on.
The dumbest thing I ever did is they let them know that I own the fucking place.
I should have had a management come to you so they handle it so it has nothing to do with me.
So they're the bad guys.
You were just calling them?
Not me, but my realtor was doing.
He's been absolutely fantastic.
I'm super grateful that he's been handling it, but they know that I own the place so that she has leverage.
Imagine, imagine fucking millionaire comedian.
Oh, a new Coffee video.
I love CoffeeZilla.
I wonder what he's talking about.
CoffeeZilla because you crush me.
So I just, I don't raise it.
You know, it's fine.
You're fucked.
Forever.
So wait.
See, she resigned the lease twice.
I had two other opportunities.
Just give it to her now.
Just give it to her.
Can I tell you what I did?
This is what I did.
This is what I did.
Oh, this is so embarrassing.
I'm the worst.
I refinanced my mortgage so that I would lose less money.
Yeah, I remember.
So instead of raising her rent, I was like, oh, don't take care of it on this side.
And then I refi'ed.
But that was good.
The interest rate was super low.
Like you did that.
Well, no, I did interest only.
Oh, okay.
So I had, you know, I did the worst thing ever.
I had a 30-year mortgage for nothing, and then I refied to a 10-year interest only, which means you're only paying the interest for not paying any of the principal.
So eventually in 10 years, I'm going to have to, I still have to pay the principal.
But I had a 30-year mortgage.
Right now, when mortgage rates are 7%, the value of the property is the mortgage.
Yeah.
And she'll have squatters rights by then.
So I don't even know what you're going to do.
You're going to have to victorious in the city and balls look.
All your stuff is in there, too.
You can make money in one way.
I can make money in one way.
I don't know how to make money off of this other thing.
I try to make money in crypto.
I lose everything.
You know why I don't.
I try to make money in real estate.
I lose everything.
You know why I can't real estate.
You can't make money.
Take advantage of people.
That's what I realized.
Here's how you do it.
We're going to be even it out.
She knows it's your apartment.
Tell the people who she is.
What are you telling me?
You're going to dox her?
Yeah, that's wild.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That was real.
You're going to dox people to go to his apartment?
No, not to go to an apartment, but just like shamer and to be like, yo, you should be paying more for that.
Market value.
May market value.
Yeah, if there's one people, like one group of people everyone sympathizes with, it's the landlord.
Gotta fuck that out.
I gotta fuck you.
You're the landlord, bro.
But evil shit.
Don't call yourself a landlord, bro.
He's a landlord.
He's got a lord in the name.
He's got a real trap in his cash.
He's losing money.
Oh, yeah, me too.
I don't own anything.
He ain't doing it right, bro.
I just take care of all the bills and shit.
For real.
I'm in it.
You know why I think real estate going to crash again?
Because he's looking to buy again.
That's why I don't trust his real estate shit at all.
Who's looking to buy?
You.
I ain't never buying nothing again.
How many conversations did he stop?
Hold on.
Apartment just came available.
I'll be pretending with my wife to give her something to think about for the future, but I ain't really going to fucking lie about this.
You're just being on Zillow for no reason.
Zillow in jail.
I don't even go on Netflix anymore.
I'm Zillow in chill.
She cast it in the door.
Oh, what do you think about this one?
Oh, the kitchen's too small.
You know?
What are we going to do, though?
Listen, what do you mean when we're going to do it?
In six months, she's going to have to resign the lease.
How do you landlord people?
That to me hurts, bro.
That hurts.
Inflation landlord.
Let's just make it 5%.
Let's do that.
You move back in downsize.
Yeah.
Get a roommate.
Be like, hey, we're going to split.
No, I'm saying philosophically, like somebody's going through a hard time and you got to go get that fucking money from them every month.
That's hard.
You got to give the apartment to somebody that's in your family and be like, hey, my family member needs to move in.
I'm sorry.
I have to, at the end of this lease, you have to go.
And then that family member can live there and take advantage of you, but at least his family.
That's a good point.
I mean, they won't pay any rent, but at least his family.
At least I'll be getting taken advantage of by my own.
By your own blood.
You have to create an image of who you think this person is without knowing anything.
This person made millions in crypto.
Dude, this person when I was looking for an apartment, I looked at an apartment in that building, 30% more.
30% lease.
It could have been 40% more.
This is a highway robbery.
How do you lose money in real estate?
They don't know.
Hey, Doug.
Doug needs a place to live still, right?
No, I got a nice place.
Hey, bro.
I only know how to make money one way, bro.
Telling these jokes, baby.
That's it.
That's it, bro.
That's it.
She's at an expensive restaurant and she's like, oh, shit, it's time to sign the lease again.
I mean, she's trying to take advantage of me elsewhere.
She calls him my lord.
She's like, my lord, I'm moving.
It's like a game of throw.
She's like, I purchased infamous.
We've had a rough harvest.
He thinks he's like a serf selling buckwheat?
This is crazy.
She lives in Manhattan.
She's having a great time.
Do y'all know what I'm talking about, though?
Ethically, yes.
Like, you have a human being that might be struggling.
Yeah, living in an amazing place in Manhattan.
No, it's tough to live in Grammar City in Manhattan.
That's really like your life is hard.
Yeah, she's like, if you're living in Grammar City, this is her last life.
I don't know what's going on with her life.
Maybe some dude, I'm sure.
Y'all are heartless.
She's living in the game.
You gave her a COVID deal, though.
Yeah, everybody's COVID deal went up.
You're the only COVID dealer.
We're still in a pandemic.
She's crouching all of a sudden.
COVID is the right citizen right now.
We got 30% new cases in China.
Look at the IBM virus, bro.
He's coughing.
He's coughing right now.
Here's the way.
Find out whatever they're actually charging for the exact same apartment in the building and then charge her 5% less.
Like I said, 5%.
Talk to your friend about it.
He will have no issues.
Yeah, yeah.
Don't let Dove do that because this girl will absolutely kill herself.
But I think maybe what if we just get her out?
What if we just get her out through some type of no, but like we go dachshund is not good.
No, no, no, we don't talk about like what's that?
Why is a girl gonna kill herself with Dove's advice?
Because Dove's gonna just grind her away and take everything.
Are you saying that we just start moving other people into there?
Yes.
Oh, actually, this is a disputed apartment.
Yeah, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
And then, and then we take it out a wall, we add some more people, and then it just becomes so uncomfortable for her to live there that she eventually just goes to Nebraska and opens a restaurant.
There you go.
Hey, falafel for everybody.
No, but I'm thinking, like, what if you just get like a speaker in the window, make some like noises?
Like, oh, there's rodents or something.
No, You can't get up to the window's too high.
I was looking over Central Parks, and she's like, this girl's struggling.
She's on a high floor with double pane windows, so you can't hear the outside world.
Yeah.
Why does it feel different making money in this way?
Why does it feel different like making money the way we make money?
Because you're charging other people and they're making money off of them.
And you don't.
And you're making a profit off of them.
Also, the elasticity of demand.
No, but like us.
He components.
Hey, let's go, bro.
I got a degree.
No, but like, you need a place to live.
So if you're like raising the price on someone that needs something to live, like insulin, fucking apartment, all that shit.
Yeah, it's like, I feel bad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You should feel better.
I watched a documentary about this.
No, he's making a really good point.
Like, somebody needs shelter.
So am I taking advantage of a need?
Yeah.
Whereas people don't need a podcast.
They don't need a comedy show, but we ideally provide something that has so much value that they're willing on their own volition to support.
It's kind of value from it.
It is a luxury.
My mom would always say this about fucking dance lessons.
She's like, we're really lucky.
And I was like, why?
She goes, well, we make money off of something that makes people feel good and that they choose to opt into.
It's not like they have to, and then we're going to remove it from them and then they can fucking die.
And I was like, whoa, that's a really cool, ethical way to make a living.
Maybe I'm being super gay right now.
I know.
That's true.
But maybe that's what I have.
It's like by raising the rent, I'm objectively making her life slightly more difficult.
You didn't think about this when you bought an apartment in New York City?
No, so I thought that's what you did when you got money.
You buy an apartment, someone lives there, they pay for the whole value of the apartment.
Yeah.
This is why 2008 happened.
Because people like me.
Yes.
Okay.
If there's more people like you, Joe doesn't even have it.
Insurance against this is you bought a building with 100 more units.
Can I tell you that?
Let me tell you something.
You can live for free, sweetheart.
What's the meaning of that?
Yo, don't say that.
You could live for free.
He doesn't mean that.
He doesn't mean that.
You can live for free.
Hey, that's a horrible contract.
Yeah, I know.
That is legally binding.
I can't help it.
I was talking to my wife.
Baby, you only ever got 10 rent a day.
I'm nerd and everybody.
She's like, well.
As your boys, yeah.
Boys got your work.
You don't make your girl pay rent.
My girl pays rent.
Does she?
Yeah, of course, bro.
Really?
I rationalize that in my head, though, sometimes.
Which is?
Because she's making money.
So, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's your half.
And then we go to dinner, and then I'll be like, yeah, you got this one.
But, like, it just is like an un in an unlimited amount.
It just gets added in in my head.
Yo, I'd be, I'd be wanting to know where my girl's money goes.
I gotta look into the bucks a little bit, baby.
Right?
You know, because she's out here bawling.
That's what that's what I'm saying.
Like, where's it going?
I do think most wives with husbands who make money think, your money is our money, and my money is my money.
Yeah.
She don't think that way, but she acted.
Like, I gotta look, I gotta see the things she's buying.
I need to go get understand what's going on over here.
Talking about her credit card.
You're gonna hot at your wife?
I think I might need an automobile.
Oh, my credit card bill is so high.
Pay it.
You making money.
You ain't gotta pay for nothing else.
Pay that.
Yeah.
I know how you could feel better.
Your young, hardworking editor who is looking at Zillow, wearing pearls.
He's wearing pearls.
He kills himself.
Wears pearls out.
Yeah, he wears.
I'm just saying.
Oh, he needs a place to live.
Oh, do you want a place to live?
Sure.
Of course.
I love a place to live.
Sound like Mickey Miller.
What's this?
You know what's crazy?
You want to know something crazy right now?
I thought you offered this to him.
No, no, no, no.
I feel so much better charging him more than the woman this is.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I think you're not going to be able to do it.
Why is that?
Or maybe it was a good idea.
No, I'm not.
I'll offer it to everybody.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, not everybody, but everybody who can afford it.
Everybody who can afford it.
It's not Long Island City.
Damn, man.
Am I being pussy?
I think that you hit that.
I think you hit it on the head right there.
Like, you're being pussy because rent is something that everyone is used to.
It goes up every time you resend the lease.
Everyone is used to that.
That's like fundamental.
That's not even something that you're doing specifically wrong.
All the landlords are doing it.
I know, but maybe, and I'm not saying that they shouldn't do it and everybody has to pay their bills and that kind of stuff.
We're just very fortunate where, like, I don't make a living.
I think if I, like you were saying earlier, if like, if I made a living off of it and that's how I fed my family, I would feel better because it's like, yo, if I don't do this, like you're taking away food from my family.
Like now my family's really hurting and I'm not asking you to do anything that's abnormal.
It's like, you know, you're still at market value, et cetera.
But I think because I don't, and I'm very fortunate where we can provide for ourselves with what we do here, that like grinding a fucking hundred bucks or something, it just feels like.
It's like getting into like the insulin business is a side hustle.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
On the side, I'm going to start charging people.
Martin Shrilly.
What was that guy, Martin Shrilly?
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There's like some life-saving medication that he charged ridiculously.
It's like you already made money.
Now you need to make extra money on the insulin Martin Spirit.
On the things people need the most.
Yeah, like it just felt weird.
Yeah.
And this girl's probably had a hard life.
White woman, no justice for her.
In the world.
Second-class citizen.
Yeah.
Yeah, dude.
Rough.
Spending 100 bucks.
Okay, so you guys seem to think I'm being unrealistic.
You seem to think that I'm being all right.
No, I mean, it's like a nice thing to do.
No, you're doing something charitable.
I think it's very kind.
I think if you went up like the standard rate of inflation or whatever, like the thing in New York City is, I don't think it would be egregious.
But it is a kind thing that's playing on your guilt.
Very Catholic of you.
I think you're being unfair.
Yeah, you're not setting her up for the future.
She's going to live in places and be like, oh, okay, I'm used to somebody not raising the rent on me.
And then they're going to raise the rent.
And I can cry.
And then she's going to be on the street.
And then she's going to live in Andrew Tate's castle.
And this is what's going to happen, bro.
All because of you.
Yeah.
Special treatment and shit.
God damn it, Dove.
It's so hot in here.
It's so hot.
God.
It's so hot.
It's unbelievable.
Can you just show me the degrees?
What is it on?
Show me the degrees at least.
You said the number, right?
Yeah.
Show me the degrees.
Oh, why?
Oh, he's making a load all of a sudden.
Oh, he moved in.
He moved.
I did it.
Something shifty.
Something happened.
Drop it down to 70.
70.
That is the temperature that we didn't say in 68.
But 70.
Yeah.
No.
Wow.
Why?
Why?
60.
Come on.
60?
That's 60.
50.
Okay.
That's different.
Okay.
Let's button this up.
Yeah.
Can we button it up?
What's the deal?
So what's going to happen with Tate?
I think he's going to live in your apartment, renting it.
I have a place for you if you need you interested.
Can live there.
Oh, God.
Yeah, I think it's like money shit.
And then he'll pay the fines or whatever, like be sanctioned and have wages garnished or whatever, and then be free.
Assuming there's no sex crime stuff with it.
Now, here's the thing.
If he doesn't go away for, if he doesn't go away for something that people view as morally reprehensible, I think it only increases his star power and the fervor of his fan base.
He's already bigger now, 100%.
Yeah.
And especially like, let's say he does five years for tax evasion.
It's like, oh, they couldn't stop him.
So they had to get him on tax evasion.
Oh, he was too powerful.
The Matrix was trying to quiet him.
It's like, or maybe he was finding ways to skirt around taxes and he wasn't, you know, bribing the right people in Romania.
That's the other thing.
It's like, my man was talking about how corrupt Romania is.
Like, you snitch on yourself, man.
Like, don't talk about your homies.
If you are paying motherfuckers off, say Romania is not corrupt at all.
It's the perfect place and you want people to move there.
It's amazing.
You almost say they can't.
You're forcing Romania to prosecute you.
Even if it is a corrupt place, you can't go say that shit to millions of people.
You're basically going, you won't.
Yeah.
Do it.
You're saying, do it.
Okay.
They did it.
Yeah.
Right?
It's like, you, wow.
In order to maintain their reputation, they have to prosecute you almost.
And look for anything and like nickel and dime, every little thing.
Even if he's just doing like the regular tax loopholes, they're probably finding ways to get him on that.
And just the fact they released his brother real quick kind of indicates to me that like it's not criminal in the way that everyone was projecting and the prosecutor.
It's like wearing the mink coat to the boxing match.
Like if you was doing this shit silently, they wouldn't have given a fuck.
Yes, Frank Lucas or whatever.
But his brand is not doing it silently.
His brand is calling everyone pussy, Romania's pussy, whatever, whatever.
Yeah.
So it just caught up to him.
The brand.
This is the price you pay.
Yeah.
The price you pay.
And I think a similar thing happened with Takashi in a way.
Like his brand was like telling everyone to go suck my dick and then eventually people like prosecuted and like they got agents inside his thing and they used him as a way to get the gang and then he had to make a choice.
And so like if your brand is like, fuck everyone, eventually someone's going to come for you and then you got to come collect.
I like that you brought up Takashi because I saw a I saw like a headline of Sam Bankman Free's sloth face girlfriend or whatever, that fucking disgusting twat that's in business with him was going to flip on him.
And I think she and a couple other people are going to snitch.
And I was infuriated by it because she was the CEO of the company.
She's going on podcasts bragging about their success.
Her uncle, I think, was the person that works at the SEC that they were trying to use as a connection to lobby to get regulation.
Because remember, this was a race between them and Binance.
Who could be the first U.S. regulated exchange?
So she's so intimately involved with all the fuck shit, right?
I'm assuming maybe she wasn't, but intimately involved in all this fuck shit.
And then she's willing to snitch to get less time.
And to me, this seemed like such an open and shut case.
It's not like there's like nefarious activity going on that they can't prove.
They can prove there was 40 billion.
Now there's no more 40 billion.
You guys were at the head of the company when this happened.
You're responsible.
Simple as that.
Yeah, but like if you have to make the prosecution work and like really dig in the books and or you can just have this person flip, tell me exactly everything.
I'll give you a little bit of a better deal.
And then I have a nice thing.
He hit his tracks.
He went to the Bahamas.
You got to go through all the Bahamian records.
There's no extra dish.
You can't keep that going on with young Thuck.
Well, I want to get to that one second.
I just want to say about this.
For the first time in my life, it made me infuriated at a snitch.
I didn't understand why being a snitch, like in Italian mafia shit is so bad and like black gangs is so bad.
Like I didn't understand why.
And it's like, now I got it.
It was like, motherfucker, you were with me doing the foul shit.
This is your ideas too.
And the second you had the opportunity to flip on me for yourself.
Like, I actually think there's a human instinct outside of like just gang shit, like a human instinct to look at snitches as vile because they're viewing themselves over the group.
Yeah, you betrayed me.
We were a part of the tribe and then some shit went down and then you picked a different tribe.
You just understood.
I kind of get that though, actually.
There is a little bit of a difference in terms of why this one specifically stuck out at me.
And I think it's because like white people.
Oh, okay.
I was like, what's the difference?
It sounds like that.
No, no, it sounds like it sounds like that.
It's not white people.
And the reason why I had to think about was Takashi with this and why I don't think what Takashi did was necessarily wrong.
Now, I know there's another conversation piece that goes with this.
Okay.
But the violation, Takashi snitched on his boys who fucked his girl, kidnapped him, did all this other shit.
They violated the trust first, in my opinion.
Now, he's part of the street, so he has to handle it on some street shit, blah, blah, blah.
I've heard that argument as well.
So instead of going to the cops, he should go to them and handle on some street shit, whatever.
Once you violate the code, it don't matter how it's handled.
You violated me.
You violated our trust.
We had this trust.
We were breaking the law together.
And the only reason we can accomplish this is because we all trust each other to remain true.
You violated that.
Don't be upset at me now that I also violate it.
You violated a different way.
I violated a different way.
I think what some of them would say is that, hey, we've been propping you up to be this gangster.
You need to be paying us more.
And they weren't.
He wasn't paying them enough.
So now they're like, oh, you're not going to pay us enough.
We're going to take it from you.
Yeah, but before that, they fuck his girl.
Yeah.
I mean, like, there's real different rules.
No, I know there's different rules.
And she wasn't the best.
Maybe if fair, I guess what I'm trying to say is like, it made me think of this situation as well, where it's just like, God damn, like, it's one thing when you have like a criminal kingpin that's forcing you to do crimes.
And if you don't do them, they're going to kill you.
Nobody's forcing this bitch to do this shit.
She is enriching herself.
She's using her family connections to further enrich herself.
And then the first opportunity she can to snitch on that motherfucker so she can have a better life, she does.
Your family's connections were being used.
This is why I completely agree with that.
It's gross to me.
You're with your partner.
Let's just say your shorty's doing some nefarious shit right now.
You're going to snitch on her?
Nah, you're going to hold it down.
Yeah.
Wait, wait, what?
What?
Like, if your partner right now starts doing some shit, some illegal shit, maybe it's not that bad, but it's just like, whatever.
And then, oh, you're not going to snitch on your girl.
You're not going to snitch on your wife.
No, I know.
But let's say if like, all right.
Also, his partner, what do you mean by partner?
Is that like a relationship?
Okay.
But isn't, I don't know if they were married.
That's why I just.
No, they were boyfriend and girlfriend and then she was fucking all the people.
They were in all these polyamorous relationships.
So everybody working was doing it.
It's like, I was just saying like, hey, you kind of hold down the person that you're with.
And it was snitching.
Yeah, because now they got in trouble.
And like you said, they weren't that close.
But while you're in the, while you're doing the thing, it's like, hey, if I can help you out, I'll help you out while you're doing the thing because we're in this together as a team.
If I'm going to benefit off of this life that you're, you know, providing for me and I can help out in a way, like, that was her version of helping.
Like, hey, oh, I got this family member at this.
This might help me.
No, she was more intimately involved in that.
Yeah, but I don't think this was her scheme.
It was her scheme.
She was writing the fucking code.
I thought it was his scheme.
Son, she's not a fucking.
Yeah, I think that's, I think you don't know enough about her and how intimate she was in involvement.
If there was like 10 of them that was running this whole fucking thing, all of them intimately involved.
68 degrees, Dove, please.
I guess what I'm trying to say is it really made me think about snitching differently.
Like it is.
I guess my point to that is like I always would see snitches as like a bystander.
Like it would be like some guy that was like tertiary to the gang and saw some crime happen and then they'd be like, what happened?
And we're going to put you in jail unless you tell us.
And then it was like, I was like, damn, that's a shitty situation to be in.
I never realized, oh, a lot of these snitches were also complicit or just accomplices or accessories to whatever the crime was.
Your first example isn't a snitch.
That's the other thing.
I didn't consider that.
I thought that was snitching.
Me too.
I also thought that was snitching.
And I was like, yo, I'm just on the block.
I see this shit go down.
The cops come to me.
I'm going to tell them the fuck out.
I thought that was wrong too.
No, that's fine.
That's fine.
You're a civilian.
If you are profiting off it, you're enriching yourself off of it.
I mean, that's the other.
I don't know.
For some reason, that shit stuck.
I was like, yo, that is disgusting.
No, it's fucked.
You vile pig.
Yeah.
Like, it is gross, bro.
You sacrificed us to save yourself when we both did the same thing.
We both did it.
Yeah.
That's fucked.
That would fuck with your head.
I don't know how any normal person can be like, okay, we fucked over all these people, but then the person I was closest to doing all the fucking over is now in prison for the next 10 years.
And I'm the reason.
And then you got to like walk around.
Because they put survival on you.
That's where human beings who are trying to survive are not going to be living by a code.
Oh, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, we can act like when cops come in and start playing mind games, they're like, yo, that guy's snitching right now.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You start getting fucked with.
So like, I understand why it's gross.
I can also empathize with how it happens.
I get how you get there.
And I'm trying, I'm going to die in jail.
Son, if we committed a crime together, it's not even a question who dies first in prison.
I would like to think I'd never snitch.
I would like to think that, but like, son, I'm going to fucking die in that.
Son, I'll be honest.
My life is on the hard.
Are there Indian people?
Not in an easy way.
I'll be honest.
I'm not going to die painlessly.
That's why I think women should get larger sentences because their time is awesome.
It's way better.
They're going to get their hair braided.
They got a girlfriend.
It's summer camp.
They're finding ways to put on nail polish.
There's no nail polish in jail.
They're making nail polish out of fucking crayons or something like that.
Men are making knives out of soap bottles.
So they can protect themselves from getting butt-fucked in a shower.
You can't compare three to three.
It's not three to three.
It's like that wage gap or whatever the fuck it is.
Same thing with prison.
It should be like 10 to 3.
If you're a girl, you get 10 years for every three years that a guy does because I'm sure it's like three times less dangerous.
It's like a woman's size.
So if Meg was guilty, she should have got 50 years in jail instead of if Tori was guilty getting 20 or whatever.
Whatever that is, whatever the math adds up, I actually believe that.
It's a shoe size thing.
Yeah, exactly.
And I'll be honest, if you go to one of those like cute jails, what are those cute jails?
You know, like the fucking rich white people all go to?
Minimum secure shit, that should be longer too.
You could do one in butt fuck or you could go 10 in country club.
Who's gonna take one in butt fuck?
Give me 10 at country club.
I might do it.
I might just win a day.
Who's gonna be like, you know what?
Give me the one butt fuck.
One in butt fucking.
I'm guaranteed a butt fuck.
It's like, it's just a risky.
But I'm guaranteed a butt fuck.
No, no, no, no.
I just act butt fuckable, bro.
If they make his ass shave, you just see it as cute.
You crazy.
He's pretty, but he built bad.
No, that's not even going to grab onto that.
No, that's true.
I'm built like a woman, to be honest with you.
So it's like, it's not even matters.
No woman, I know.
I'm not saying I'm the best looking.
I'm saying I'm just the easiest.
No, you're pretty as fuck.
I'm the easiest to take, is what I'm saying.
I wouldn't take it.
You would get in the gang.
You would get in the gang.
You have a job.
You'd be like doing cigarettes or something.
You'd be delivering money.
Al knows.
He was a cop.
He put many black people in jail.
Al, what?
What?
You made sure they went to jail.
You made sure.
They was patching up.
You were like, get your black ass in jail.
That's it.
So you ain't get out.
Unless he stitched.
Yeah, yeah.
Nah, but he's you're going first.
Yeah.
Just you're weak.
But in between, because he got a dumper on him.
No, he's going to walk.
He's more fuckable.
He's more fuckable.
I don't think they touched you.
No, no, no.
I'm the boss.
Nobody's walking out of here.
I'm going to be boss.
Get out of here.
Son, I got longer legs than all you like.
You don't think they want to see them legs walking around the unit?
A little giraffe looking at ass.
You don't want to see all this, bro.
In all seriousness, you think you're the most rapable.
You're prettiest.
I'm the weakest is all I'm saying.
Yeah, but it's not about that.
They like a challenge.
Like, rapists don't want what's easiest.
They want a challenge.
I don't want to break you.
Like, they're going to break you.
So, son.
They're going to break you.
They're going to break.
Son, I'm not going to lie, bro.
They breaking.
Son, I was running sweet.
What's up?
I was running sweet and son.
They would never.
Son, they breaking you, bro.
They would never.
They breaking you.
So you saw Drake copying me, son?
Like, why didn't he get locked up for 30?
What?
That's how you know Drake's on a different level than ASAP.
ASAP just found out where he was on the IRA.
He's like, I called Trump.
Drake's like, I am Trump.
I don't need to call anyone.
They just let me out.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah, that's why.
Same thing.
Didn't get locked up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's Drake, bro.
It's Drake.
Drake got it.
That's a super flex.
Yep.
Anyway, point is: you're getting raped.
You're getting raped.
Crypto.
And no one will ever get raped.
Exactly.
Nobody wants to rape you.
You ugly fuck.
Oh, I don't get raped.
Oh, but if you're getting raped, he wants to be.
You want to be rapable.
You want to at least be rapeable.
So if you're not getting raped, does that mean you're doing the raping?
No.
Clip it.
Miles, Miles, Miles, do your thing.
You're staying life in it.
You're staying hot yoga.
Yo, that's actually a good question.
If you are in jail, which one would you rather be?
Yep.
Come on.
The good ass question.
Maybe y'all know the good ass question.
Good ass question.
Yo, thanks for bringing that up.
Which one would y'all rather be?
Wait a minute.
Well, you got to take down 10 or get taken once in jail.
What would you rather?
You fucking on the couch.
Which one would you rap?
But you can pick, right?
You could pick it.
Can you pick who takes?
You got to take down 10.
10 is a lie.
Force.
It's a lie.
10 bodies move.
They're going to say by force.
Yo, this guy.
You're a crazy guy, bro.
10 bodies.
Y'all ain't taking 10 bodies.
I don't want to be a rapist, Alex.
Yeah.
That's not good.
Yeah, you see?
Come on, Truck.
Why are you doing that?
Can we continue having to do it?
They're going to figure out my shit.
How could they put the clues together?
Yeah, exactly.
It's mystery of the age.
So take my shit out.
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If nobody's having fun, nobody's having fun.
No, no.
We're having fun.
No, don't go.
So you're rapist.
You're rapist.
I didn't say anything.
I got raped.
I'm a victim.
I'm a survivor.
No, no.
He said he would rather take it once than do it 10 times.
Yes.
You, selfish, You would rather do it 10 times than take it once.
That's how I know you snitching.
You a snitch.
How?
You a snitch.
You just proved it right there.
How?
You a snitch.
You'd rather you hurt 10 people than hurt yourself once.
You a snitch.
You got snitch in your butt.
So this guy's a prosecution.
This guy's a prosecution.
It's crazy.
You got snitch in your butt.
He got a dick in his butt, but you got snitch.
Why did you bring that up?
Why'd you get to bring that up at all?
We were talking about him.
But it's just all on you.
It might not be a guy.
It could be a CO, female CO.
That guy.
I'm just saying.
Female COVID.
I'm going to give it to you nice and proper.
Okay.
Oh, I already got a warning.
That's not proper.
That's not proper.
All right.
10 different dudes.
Each one, you're bent over.
You grab your ankles.
10 different dudes get to walk by on a line.
Then they just go like this.
Bop.
Do they make the noise?
They say that.
They just go bop like that.
You got to hold your cheeks open.
10 different dudes are going bop like that.
Okay.
Hook it down.
Yeah.
Okay.
Ten different dudes.
Okay.
Okay.
Or there's no or.
He just wants that.
All right, well, let's do it.
Yeah, let's do it then.
Let's start.
Or the or, or 10 different dudes like that.
Okay.
Or, or, or you, or you, or you got to fuck somebody in their ass against their will.
What do you call that?
There's no or what that behavior.
In prison.
In prison.
So, what is it?
This would have been a really fun shit.
It would have been.
Hey, guys.
What's it going to be?
Hey, so what's it going to be, guys?
The only challenge of this is, I don't know.
Middle finger, bro.
Jesus.
Yeah.
The only challenge is, I don't know if I can come 10 times.
So you're going to be noodled up?
You're going to be noodled up?
That's the only hard part for me.
Okay, so what would it be?
Which one would you choose?
That's a good one.
You nailed that.
You got even a question.
So 10 times in a row?
What is happening in prison that they just let that happen?
We finally got to do it.
What's happening in a prison?
I'll tell you what's happening.
Justice.
Yeah, yeah.
That's justice.
What am I in prison for?
Like, there's so many other questions.
Something bad?
Yeah, yeah.
Something bad.
I deserved it.
The judge sent us me to 10 binds?
No, no, no.
He didn't.
He sentenced you to 10 years in jail.
Wow.
This is your plea deal.
But in order for you to plea out.
My attorney's like, take the deal.
Listen, all you got to do is you got to be in the yard, and the dudes walk up like this.
They're just looking around.
They nod the CEO.
The CO looks the other way.
The CEO's going to do it.
What are they playing?
Family Feudal Survey said.
Would you do it 10 times?
10 times.
You're getting back down 10 times.
10 times.
Steve Harvey's one of them.
Is there a white family and a black family doing it?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm in then.
Would you do it?
Deal.
Deal?
Yeah, I'm going to take the physical challenge.
Alex.
I'm phoning in a friend.
I'm playing everyone.
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It's a money if you want.
No, no, no, no.
You have to take it.
You're bent over.
You grab your hands.
You're going to get a contest, dude.
Easy.
Come on.
Think about it.
Y'all want the bat so quick.
Don't hurt someone else.
I don't want to hurt someone.
It's a much better option.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
10 of them.
It's 10 of them.
You got to.
Bend over, though.
Like 10 times?
Bend over.
Some of them are going to miss.
Oh, that's true.
Oh, that's true.
That's not true.
Everyone is going in.
And what if they don't miss?
Not true.
They got to reach out.
You know, where the fuck you made that up.
That thing is gaped.
Oh.
Why is it gay?
Can I tell you this?
Why is it gate?
Couple of the guys played football earlier in their lives.
So that finger is cooked.
That finger, that finger right there with that ankle.
They got Michael Irvin.
They gotta whip it.
They gotta whip it like you getting tobacco rigs.
That's what you do it.
What are you doing?
I ain't doing that what I'm talking about.
See, he's got some crazy.
He got some crazy money.
Oh, you guys are crazy.
Can we move on?
I'm looking forward to it, Mark.
Can we move on, bro?
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Last topic, okay?
Because we got to talk about vacation.
Last topic.
It is true.
It did happen.
Ronaldo.
The Ronaldo went to Saudi Arabia.
The Ronaldo.
The Ronaldo went to Saudi Arabia.
That sucks.
I know.
Sad, dude.
Sad.
And only $75 million a year.
I thought he was supposed to get $275 million.
He said you get up to $200 million in a year, but I don't know how.
Yeah.
That's the report.
But still, what are you doing, man?
Yeah.
This is a sad way to go.
They validate.
My friend said this to me.
He goes, players validate themselves by the offers they get.
So, you know, you're getting contracts.
You're still the guy.
You're still the man.
And he's not getting offers from any of the other major clubs, it seems.
A lot of the Premier League teams don't want to work on them.
Oh.
Like he got offers from, or like he talked to different teams and they were like, oh, yeah, we're trying to build around this guy and you're only going to be here for another year or so to basically sideline everything we've been building for the last three years to try to work you into our system for then you to retire after a year or two is not working.
Because he doesn't want to play a part of the system.
He's a bum isn't.
He wants to be the guy.
He's just not good enough to be the guy at that level anymore.
And if he's going to retire in a year or two, it's like, we're going to do all this work to build this team around you, and you might not even be worth the investment to build the team around.
But he was saying he was talking to Brazilian teams, Portuguese teams, American teams.
Which U.S. team wouldn't do it just for two years of marketing?
That's different.
I think what we're talking about is...
He's competing at a still high level in one of the top four leagues.
So now he's like, okay, if I'm not going to compete at the highest level, what's going to make me the most money?
And it looks like you can't compete with Saudi and the offers.
But what my buddy was saying is that that's what athletes tend to do is they validate themselves by the contracts they're getting.
And that was the biggest contract.
So in his mind, he can still be the biggest player.
Probably wasn't getting offered close to that from an American team.
Maybe he would have gotten like a percentage of the club or something like that.
But I can imagine that this Saudi deal is, even if they say it's 75 million, maybe they're like, listen, we can only say 75 because we might want to lure other players eventually and we don't want to pay them this.
So we'll give you this on the side.
Like the crown owns all the money.
They can give you whatever the fuck they want.
Yeah, percent of jerseys or this house.
You get this land, whatever.
So it's a bummer because it could have been really cool as soccer is exploding in America.
We have the World Cup coming here.
There's the most interest in our lives that we've ever seen in soccer.
And then you have arguably the most famous soccer player on the planet comes to America with the other most famous.
It would be the perfect time for Messi and Ronaldo to come to America and then soccer become like the second most popular sport in America, the third most popular sport.
You have football, basketball, soccer.
I would be awesome.
And he followed the money and you can't fault him for that.
He has every right to make as much money as he wants.
But it's a bummer because it feels like he missed out on a cool cultural play.
Actual question, someone who doesn't know soccer, it seems like the Messi Ronaldo debate is pretty over.
Yeah, I mean, it's crazy.
If you ask someone in like 2018 and you're like, okay, imagine these two GOATs are going at it.
Messi wins the World Cup and then Ronaldo can't find a team to play with and then goes to play in Saudi Arabia.
People be like, this is insane.
Did he get injured?
It's like incomprehensible.
It seems like within the past 30 days or whatever, the World Cup, fine, two weeks, the conversation's going to be.
Yeah, the conversation's over.
Yeah.
Imagine in two years, like Steph Curry can't find a team that has to go to like Turkey.
Yeah.
It's like, how could that even happen?
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a...
So he declined that much.
I don't, like, I think it's partially his, he wanted to be the guy.
Yeah, I think it's a little bit, it's a decline, but also you're not willing to be.
You're not willing to be a role player.
And maybe his skill set isn't built around being a role player.
Like, for example, Steph Curry could play in the NBA until he's 50 years old because he can stand in the corner and hit threes 10 minutes a game if you need him.
He can find the open guy.
And he's not going to take a pay cut.
Well, we're talking about, yeah, Ronaldo.
I guess I'd say, so Ronaldo's going, I'm not taking a pay rep because, again, he's validating himself through the money.
It's a weird thing that happens, but my buddy who works in sports is basically like, it's just over this amount of time, that's how you start to identify your status in the world.
Yeah, you don't want to think you're going down.
Exactly.
I've also heard part of the reason there's holdouts and agents probably play a role in this, but like a player won't think I'm worth $100 million necessarily.
What he'll think is if this guy got $98 million, I'm better than that guy, I get $100.
It's not about the money.
It's about the competition even with the bank.
It doesn't matter where the money's coming from.
Like if you're not in one of the premier leagues, not when you're convincing yourself.
Yeah.
I think he's in a little bit of denial probably.
Yeah.
Because listen, he gets benched for Portugal.
They get booted.
He doesn't have a great cup.
Yeah.
Doesn't play well at Man Yu, has issues with the club.
They like kind of oust him.
He like talks shit about them.
And fucks up his call.
I'm not playing well.
It's never him, right?
Yeah.
He's upset at Portugal.
He's upset at Man Yu.
He's always upset.
And this is classic, right?
It's like classic what happens to a lot of star players who are just like, you know, his, the resilience, the mental resilience that he has that gets him here is also the thing that's going to inhibit him from realizing that he's falling off.
It becomes stubbornness after a while.
But this spin cycle seems pretty short relative to what he's done so far that it's pretty unfortunate that it puts you in that place so quickly in the end.
I mean, I think it's expedited by the Messi situation, right?
Like Messi's meteoric rise to the number one football player in the world without a question.
He's just beloved.
Beloved.
And like everything about his attitude, his demeanor, the fact that he's not loud, the fact that he's like, he's got his girl that he's known since he's 12.
It's like the perfect fucking story.
He's physically small.
Like he was the underdog, the run to became a hero.
Universally liked by his teammates, it seems.
Pays for the whole fucking, the Argentine team.
Like they're going through financial hardships.
Apparently, he paid for everybody on the team's salaries.
Like one year.
So like all these crazy, cool stories are coming out that he's just like a great guy.
And then poor Ronaldo is like the brash, bravado, strong, talky, arrogant, cocky, take your shirt off.
Gaston.
Like, yeah, literally.
He's the guy most of your heroes are.
And Messi is the guy you wish most of your heroes were.
Yeah.
Well, I would make the argument that Messi is actually the David character in typical like hero stories.
Like it is the guy who's smaller.
Where Ronaldo is the Goliath or the Gaston.
So it's like he's the person in the fairy tale that like that should be the prince in the fairy tale that ends up not marrying the princess and then the weak boy ends up proving that he is the true suitor.
Yeah, that's crazy.
I'm just curious if it's a good investment for Al Nasir.
So like the amount that they spent, how would they justify that?
Would it just be through like brand recognition to Saudi?
Would it be through like jersey sales?
I saw their Instagram followers.
I think they got like 5 million overnight from like the announcement.
Yep.
So even those stats alone, I wonder if that would be beneficial for them.
Even like streaming rights, how much value does a player like that?
So here are the things.
One, Saudi Arabia doesn't give a flying fuck about making money on any of these other endeavors.
This is all marketing.
Come to Saudi Arabia.
We're going to run out of oil eventually.
We need to prove to you that there's some shit here besides oil derricks and mecca.
Because I think the average person in the world just goes, I think all Saudi Arabia has is oil derricks and Mecca.
So, oh, well, we have a whole football league.
I didn't even know Saudi Arabia had a football league.
I didn't know until Ronaldo.
So Saudi Arabia just built this hotel, the Habitats or something like that.
It's near Jordan in a part of Saudi Arabia that's similar to Jordan.
The geology looks just like Jordan.
It's like built within these like crazy like rock structures.
And they just spent like 10 times what another hotel, another Habitas hotel would ever spend.
And it's simply just to draw tourists out there to prove that they have more than oil, derricks, and Mecca.
They're building the whole.
The Lion City.
It's like Wadi Rum and you go.
Exactly.
They're building the Lion City for the same reason, right?
The Lion City, exactly.
So all these things are like marketing.
How can we become like this global city?
And how can we shed a little bit of the representation and of the reputation, the stigma that we already have, which is like, hey, women can't drive.
Everybody, you know, burke it up to here.
Khashoggi.
Khashoggi.
That's $100 million right there.
So if the world is watching Saudi football games, not the world, but like, you know, the Ronaldo fans are watching Saudi football fans.
Maybe they want to go to Saudi to watch a football fan.
Now there's an excuse.
Now there's an excuse to travel a little bit.
And people will go do that.
They're Ronaldo fans.
Like, dude, if Michael Jordan was playing in another fucking country, you don't think that Michael Jordan fans would go there and watch a game?
100%.
So will they make back the $275 million, like dollar per dollar?
I don't know.
But is there a, it is an infinite amount of money that is returned from viewing Saudi Arabia as more than just those two things.
Yeah.
Right.
And all these oil-rich Middle Eastern companies are now investing in other things because they know the oil stim is limited.
So their money from all the oil is making money.
Even when oil dries up, it's going to be whatever the word is, diversified into so many things.
They're always going to have like infinite money.
So I can pay 75 million.
Who gives a fuck if it gives me good PR?
Yeah.
That golf league, I don't think they're making money on that.
Oh, yeah, the live golf.
The live golf?
They're just throwing crazy bread at it.
See us differently.
See us as you.
That term everyone's using is sports washing.
Sports washing.
Do you hear about this?
Like money laundering, but three sports?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Like you can clean up the reputation of your country through having some big sporting event, Olympics, whatever.
Yeah.
But this is, I saw this is funny.
This is the coach of Al Nasira that basically was like, Christiano, I wanted to bring Messi first.
And as like a joke during the press conference.
And he was like, I'm just joking.
But it's like, the fact that he's even bringing it up is like another nail in the coffin.
It's like fucking up his reputation, his legacy.
Wow.
Again, I think his legacy is going to be whatever, top five ever or whatever it is.
It's not going to be that hurt in the long run.
But right now, yeah, this has been...
It was.
But to go from one to five.
Yeah.
That's not great.
Yeah.
You know, you don't think he'll be two?
I think we know Pele and then if you're going off of World Cups, it's Pele.
Yeah.
Pele has three World Cups.
Yeah.
That's the most remarkable competitive feat I've ever seen in the history of sports.
Three World Cups.
Yeah.
You're the best player on the team for all three.
Yeah.
Isn't he saying both have like three?
12 years in a row?
Three goals and the 100-meter dashers.
That's also pretty fucking crazy.
I'm not saying Julius Irving with 11 or how many of you guys.
Oh, Bill Russell.
So the thing about Bill Russell is far fewer teams.
I think black people weren't even playing in the NBA.
Do you know what I mean?
I'm not trying to diminish what he did.
He's the greatest winner in the history of basketball.
There's no doubt.
But for me, one person affects a soccer match much less than one person affects a basketball game.
And the fact that he could be the best player on the team for three World Cups and win three, that's a 12-year period.
That's nuts.
Yeah, it's crazy.
So I can understand why people make that argument.
Then there's the Maradona argument.
But like, still, nobody's coming close to him.
What's the next?
I mean, does anybody else have two World Cups?
Oh, maybe.
I don't know.
I think Ronaldo, I actually know.
No.
The OG Ronaldo.
Oh.
I'm going to look.
Bape almost had it.
Terry Henri be hating on new Ronaldo.
He goes, there's only one Ronaldo.
And that motherfucker Ronaldo in Brazil was nice, bro.
Yeah.
I completely forgot about him.
Oh, no.
He's baldy, right?
Well, he had that little patch in the front.
Remember?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah.
So what do you think happens in like his first league or his first season with the league?
Who, Ronaldo?
Yeah.
I mean, I think he'll play incredibly well and he'll score and he'll do everything that they want him to do.
Will it be that relevant, though?
And this is different probably, but Beckham came to LA.
I remember the galaxy.
I lived in LA at the time.
Huge deal.
But very quickly, we stopped giving a fuck.
I mean, very quickly.
And even if he was good, I don't know.
Did they win a championship?
MLS Cup?
I don't know.
Globally, his relevance maintained just through his marriage and his ads or whatever.
But could Ronaldo's relevance decrease, especially as a soccer player?
Yeah, I was thinking that.
Because like Andreas Iniesta, one of the greatest players ever, played for Barca forever, played with Messi, like fucking one of the best center mids ever.
Now is playing in a Japanese league.
And I didn't even know he's playing a Japanese game.
Yeah, he got like 30 million or something like that.
Yeah.
It was great money to go and play in this Japanese, but I was like, I've never seen a highlight.
So the Japanese would love his game.
That is the perfect player to go play in Japan.
Yeah.
Yeah, just pure technical greatness.
Like they don't want Ronaldo jumping around and flashy, just like hard workers.
He gets it done.
But I'm like, yeah, I haven't seen any highlights from him playing in Japan.
I haven't seen anything come out.
I thought he retired.
Yeah, I thought he retired also.
I just don't remember having to.
I just got sad about this.
Like whenever, I guess it's 75 million, but whenever an NBA player is like playing in China, it's always kind of sad.
Like imagine fucking LeBron in six years playing in Tokyo.
You'd be like, this is painful to watch.
Yeah.
Half a billion people in the Middle East are going to watch it in Arabic.
It's something to cheer on and say, okay, let's develop soccer media.
I'm sure it's a little different.
Please explain how.
It's a little different because when an American player goes to a league abroad, they're not making the money that they would make.
Fair enough.
And when these guys go to leagues abroad, they're actually making more than they would make at the premium.
I do think even if LeBron is getting 100 million from China, we'd be like, come on.
I don't know about that.
You ain't watching a game.
Oh, I'm not watching a single game, but I watch it.
LeBron against a bunch of Chinese dudes.
That'd be fucking awesome.
But there is a number, though.
That's interesting that you say that because if he's making like $10 million to go over there, I'm like, ooh, man, he needs money.
Something's wrong with him financially.
But if he was making $275 or whatever the fucking amount was announced with this Cristiano deal, like if he's making money that he was never even close to making per year playing with the Lakers or something like that, I'd be like, okay, I can see why you do that.
And I think LeBron would.
I think LeBron would go to China and play for $275 million a year.
Betting on Sports Games00:04:25
Yeah.
In a heartbeat.
Yeah, he'll do it.
Yeah, but that's still, we're still going to be like, he just went there for the money.
Like, we're not looking at you like, ah, you still got it.
I don't feel bad for him.
And for sure, your relevance has gone down.
Yeah.
For sure.
If no one's talking about you, no one's talking about you.
Listen, the point I'm trying to make is if you're willing to bet on these games, if you're gambling on these Ronaldo games, just say bet one.
All you got to do is you got to go to betonline.ag.
Okay.
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I got a feeling that Ronaldo's team's going to win 50% up to $1,000.
Yeah, yeah, 50%.
Okay.
So you put $1,000, you get that $500.
Okay.
So I have a feeling if you put the money on Ronaldo's team, I have a feeling that Saudi Arabia is not going to let this massive investment in Ronaldo flop.
His team has to win.
They have to win the championship.
They have to.
They must.
Let's see what happens.
I think Doug brings up a good point.
You're talking about the Middle East.
All those countries are probably getting those Saudi league games.
Everybody's watching Cristiano now.
By far the biggest, most marquee player in that region.
So now the Saudi league becomes the most dominant league in the Middle East and Africa.
Yep.
Might be a good investment.
Not a bad investment.
That's how it starts.
Anyway, okay, let's talk about some vacations.
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Thanksgiving Family Time00:10:57
Now let's get back to the show.
Also, guys, dates real quick.
January 14th, again, I'm at the Wilbur.
Last I checked, there were just over, I think, like 100 tickets left.
So they're going to sell out.
You need to hurry up and buy.
Hurry up and buy.
I'm not going to do the accent because that's offensive, but hurry up and buy.
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Also, I forgot a day, January 21st and 22nd.
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Andrew pointed out that is very fitting for me.
That's a very fitting venue.
And March 9th through 11th, I'm coming back to Miami Miami.
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Now let's get back to the show.
All right, guys, we're back.
Listen, we all went on vacation.
We all went on a long vacation.
Everybody went on vacation, I think, except Alex.
Did you guys have a good time?
I had a great time.
Amazing time.
The best.
And I had an amazing time.
You did, even though you were staying here working.
Yeah, well, it wasn't all work.
I had a lot of family time, hung out with friends, and I also got some work done.
This is what he said he was doing.
Remember what he was guilt tripping us?
Because he's going to hang out with his mom.
That's right.
That's what you should do on New Year's.
But it's fine.
On New Year's, hang out with your mom.
Holidays, you should be.
Every New Year's?
You spend New Year's with your mom?
Yeah.
I think New Year's might be the...
I think we do the 12 grape situation and then I go out.
Oh, really?
Huh.
You always spend New Year's with your mom?
Wow.
Oh, they do 12 grapes.
That's weird.
That's so weird.
Nah, New Year's in the family's lit.
I didn't do it, but good for you.
The fact that your mom stays up to 12 is fascinating.
That's amazing.
It's a one day a year we do.
Nah, my mom's asleep.
I can give her one day.
Try something.
Yeah, I don't know about all that, man.
Yeah, New Year's.
You don't want to do New Year's with your parents, dude?
No, I haven't done New Year's in the past.
I don't think I've ever spent a New Year's with my parents.
Really?
You don't even do Christmas with your family.
That's fascinating.
No, like a little bit, but yeah, we're not the big holiday type.
Yeah.
Were you ever as kids?
I mean, I liked Christmas.
Christmas always really fun, but there was.
But at what point did you just tell your family, yo, we don't do Christmas together anymore?
No, we would like to.
That's weird.
He doesn't even travel for it.
Like other people like go through the holes.
Yeah, that's crazy.
That travels away.
Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Everyone hates traveling during the holidays and you go, oh, I'm going to do that.
I can't even.
I'm not seeing my family on Christmas.
That just went right.
I mean, I had dinner with my family every single day of the week.
Every single day of the week, my whole life.
So think about that.
We got a lot of family time in.
It wasn't like we.
That's what people.
What's unique about that?
Living with your family.
You just said I live with my family, right?
Like, we hung out together.
We split the rent every day while I went to college.
I almost thought that's just fly.
I was like, oh, okay.
You didn't do that.
We could do dinner time at the table, but we would still be at home together.
No, but that's totally different.
And you didn't, you did, when your pops was in town.
Obviously, he was living in other places.
The whole family would do dinner a lot.
But it's like, not everybody has the ability to do that.
Like Dove's family, obviously, because of divorce, it was harder for you guys to all everybody as shitty today.
I don't care about everybody.
It's got daddy.
No, But do him, do that.
My divorce parents, we all eat together.
Today, obviously, you guys do.
But talking about Akash is a shitty family.
Talk about them.
What I'm trying to explain to Hotbos is how rare his situation was.
And a lot of times with holidays, you bring family together that's not even really together.
So for Christmas, it's like, hey, listen, both parents are going to stomach this shit.
It's good for the kids to be around each other.
Let's go do this.
Thanksgiving.
The family doesn't fucking like each other.
Let's just kind of go do it, whatever.
You had a very unique situation where, and so did I, where we got to eat dinner every single night with our family.
You eat dinner every single night with your family?
I don't know if I buy that.
I think your parents were working or something like that.
No, I didn't eat dinner every single night with my family, but like you're still hanging out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I know.
My dad got drunk and went to sleep.
This is what happened.
Fucking weirdo.
Why are you bringing up everybody's trauma so you can look like less shitty of a son?
What's that?
My point is, you needed the holidays.
We didn't.
Why?
So my dad could get drunk earlier on Christmas?
So you're talking about.
So your parents could pretend to like bees.
They don't get killed.
Like my parents were actually, you know, good parents.
We can't wait to pay him back for it.
All right.
The price isn't paying.
The boy that I'm trying to say is the boy that I'm trying to say is a very rare thing.
So we didn't have to put as much value on those times.
I don't think.
No, you're spinning.
Son, you put this shit on the house of cards.
This is a shaking.
Tell us not a big deal.
Like, holidays were not a big deal in my family.
We did the whole thing, the fucking cookies and that kind of shit.
My parents put out the presents, and it's like, okay, once we're old enough, all right, we got the presents.
I want this.
Okay, boom.
Dad, what do you want?
I don't care.
You know, we get them a tie.
The dad's going to fucking fight.
I think you're describing most families that still go home for the holidays.
Also, you live in New York.
It's a walk from your place to your parents' place.
Short.
Like, legitimately short.
I've made the walk.
It's a walk, and you're like, oh, I'm in T, I get to spend time with my family.
Oh, who am I?
You can't walk, son.
No, no, you're 100%.
I mean, look, I'll be honest, I would never leave this state where my family's from.
That is like, you have to be an absolute animal of a human being for your family to raise you.
Yeah.
Where'd you go to college again?
You know what I mean?
That was for college.
Just to learn.
To like further my life.
Education.
You know, my education.
Becoming adults, really.
But to actually just willingly move to be a clown.
Like, to move?
I know.
You move states to be a clown.
Save this clip.
Save that.
Tuck this clip away.
Tuck this clip away, man.
Next winter when he's outside freezing.
I only am willing to leave now because my dad's memory is gone.
But if my dad, if my dad's memory wasn't gone, I would never leave him.
You got a mom.
Like, she better learn to forget.
She better learn to forget.
No, my folks got to come with me wherever we go.
I fucking folks, my brother.
It's the whole thing.
That's perfect.
Yeah.
That'd be great.
But yeah, for real.
I don't know why.
I'm not going to be on holidays in the same city.
As long as we're in the same city, if anything goes wrong.
Do you know what I mean?
All right.
Like, I actually care about my family.
Yeah, no, you do.
Do you know what it is?
That's the one thing I know about you.
Yeah, I fucking care.
Like, I know you, you go back.
How often do you go back?
Four times a year-ish.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Quarterly.
Yeah.
And did you go back this year or?
I did not go back this year.
Oh, yeah.
Where'd you go?
Where my wife told me to go.
That's your family now.
Yeah, family.
Why didn't you go back?
You had plenty of time to go back and money.
She typically do Christmas with her family, Thanksgiving with mine.
And then?
What do you mean?
So what happened?
Oh, that was vetoed.
We're not going.
We already went Thanksgiving.
Spent five days.
My wife spent five days in a two-bedroom apartment with my folks, and my folks are a lot.
I block out all the arguing, but like, it's a lot to be like, okay, we're going to go do that again Christmas.
Let's go.
I mean, that's very reasonable.
He's looking for it.
I know.
He's looking for it.
There was no hope.
No, no, you already spent some time with them.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
That's not that bad.
I mean, he's married, so there's two families.
So he spent one holiday with one family.
Yeah, I think that's fine.
Yeah.
So you spent some time this year with your parents, and then you were going to spend some time with her parents this year as well.
Yeah.
But why is that wrong?
I don't, I don't know.
Oh, the way that you presented it was like it was vetoed.
I'm like, that sounds perfect.
Here comes a five.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I would be willing to go home.
Early on, it was like, I want to go home Thanksgiving and Christmas.
And she was like, we're not going both.
Which is valid.
Yeah, you have to split that up.
Yeah.
Or you do one year this, one year.
Yeah.
One year yours, one year there.
That's a marriage thing that I wasn't prepared for somehow.
It makes the most sense.
But I was like, no, we're going to go see my folks both holiday.
Like, come on.
This is what I do.
You really thought that?
I'm an idiot.
Yeah.
Of course I thought that.
Okay.
Dude, is it surprising?
I don't know things about women.
Is that a surprise?
I don't know things about relationships.
Fair enough.
Okay.
I hope you go see them work.
I mean, me too.
I'm going to make an effort.
Yeah, you should make an effort.
You should make an effort.
I tell you what, when we're together, we're going to be together.
Not, hey, I'm going to walk by your house on Christmas on my way to get a fucking locking at Starbucks.
I mean, isn't it so much worse if you went there and just did that?
What do you mean?
Like, when you go home, you have to go stay with them.
Yeah.
Yeah, so it's not like you want to.
I want to.
No, there's a generational flip happening.
It's a generational flip.
I'm just saying, you don't want to do it.
You have to.
I want to.
You do?
Yes.
So why don't you go there more?
Again, I'm married.
So you got to think about both of us.
No, but not only for holidays.
You could just go for any random weekend.
Yeah, I go about four times a year, typically.
Typically.
How long do you go to Aruba?
Not this year at all, dude.
Real fucking problem.
But you go on a lot of vacations.
Take a few trips, yeah.
Yeah, you could just go home instead.
Yeah, you went to Morocco.
You went all the way to Morocco and Burning Man when you couldn't visit your family.
You know, your family, dude.
You're right.
When you're at Morocco and Burning Man, I'm not going.
Going to see my house.
You got it.
But I do like doing that.
I like going to those places instead of going to see my folks.
I'll admit that.
I don't.
But you're saying you would rather be with your folks than Aruba.
No, not Aruba.
Now you agree with me.
Don't get crazy.
You agree with me.
I'm saying you're in the same city.
If you're home in New York for a while.
I'm not as half full like you would have left my fucking family.
I stayed near my family.
Why'd you leave your family?
Yeah.
Yes.
Job, you know?
If your folks lived in Idaho.
You left your family to make no money in L.A.
I did.
And then left again to make no money in New York.
That's what you did.
The dream.
No, you left for a dream.
Let's say the dream.
Damn.
Let's say the dream.
Yo, come on, bro.
Hey, why'd you stay in New York?
I didn't have to leave.
I mean, you can save a lot of money.
Dude, oh, I saved a lot of money.
I used my parents.
Yeah, You just bottomed yourself.
Yeah, I just paradigmed it.
Yeah.
No, no, I stayed here.
So you can ignore yourself.
I was your Christmas breaks.
Yeah.
I was here.
How long is this shit going?
Yo, I live with my parents way longer than you ever did.
Fucking loser.
Yo, think about that.
You ain't live with your parents till you're 30.
No, that's true.
Put in the time.
That's true.
Put in the time, bro.
That's true.
So I don't want to hear nothing from none of y'all.
Yes.
Son, I was right next door helping them with all their fucking double clicks and shit.
Eliminated.
Exactly.
I put in way more hours in my family than you have in your whole life.
100% guaranteed.
I live with this guy.
He didn't help his parents with a family.
I know.
That's not it.
I know that nothing.
I never saw Hungal Man help his folks with nothing.
Surfing Lessons and Savings00:06:48
That's not true.
He just passed by.
That's entirely.
That's not true.
That's entirely not true.
Leading the witness.
That is entirely not true.
I put way more time in my family than any of y'all.
Y'all hate it.
Y'all, if y'all put as much time in as I did, you take some time off.
I earned my hours.
I did my hour.
I got my $10,000.
It's off season.
That's off season.
It's my off season.
Y'all need to put...
You is embarrassing.
You was embarrassing.
And you was embarrassing.
I was like, love it.
Yo, it's embarrassing.
Y'all need to get put more time with your family.
Live with that until you're 30.
What you need to do is move back in for 10 years.
That's what I did.
Yeah.
Move back in for 10 years.
How is your vacation?
That's what I want to know.
This guy's fucking skiing.
You're doing shit.
Let's do it.
Ready?
What's up, everybody?
Welcome, Flavin.
Four miles.
That's spinning, dude.
Four miles.
Okay, ready?
No, how was vacation?
Yeah, that was Colombia.
First, how was Costa Rica?
Costa Rica, Colombia.
I got food poisoning in both countries, and I almost died surfing again.
So it was a really good trip.
How did you almost die?
Yeah, yeah.
We get a text like randomly in the middle of the night.
Hey, what is that stuff you put in a wound to make it not get infected?
Oh, yeah.
That was also, and I cut up my foot.
You have a Google.
That wasn't even from surfing.
That was just from walking on rocks with my wife.
But we went, yeah, the surfing thing was fucking, it was weird.
So on the flight down, I get this.
I start thinking about this my first time.
I went back in the ocean once.
We surfed a bunch in the wave pool.
Shout out to Scoot and Surf.
It's fucking awesome.
Everybody go check out American Dream Mall.
But I went out surfing with Casey Neistat once when we went out to like the Rockaways.
And then this is the first time I've been surfing back and like, you know, vacation, like some real potential waves.
So like I have a sense to obviously what happened in Hawaii.
Can you feel that now that is that thick?
What?
That water?
Sweat?
What it was just boogers.
So thank you for telling me about that.
I've had this all my, that was a while I had it?
No, that was a whole episode started.
We restart.
We'll restart.
No, is it that crazy?
I didn't see it.
Okay, so anyway, so we go.
I'm in Costa Rica.
I'm in Santa Teresa, Costa Rica.
I go, we arrive that afternoon.
I go right to the surf shop to go get my board.
I go, they show me the board, and I check out the leash of the board, and I put on the leash and the velcro.
It feels like worn.
You know when Velcro feels like worn, feels like it falls off?
And I tell the guy and I'm like, hey, is this leash kind of like off?
He's like, nah, it's not a big deal.
Don't worry about it.
I'm like, yeah, but look at the Velcro.
It kind of feels off, right?
He goes, ah, but look, if you put it on all the way and then pull, it doesn't fall off.
He put it on, pulls it, nothing.
I'm like, I don't feel comfortable.
He walks away.
I'm like, I don't want to be that fucking guy, but I'm feeling like a little like anxious.
And I don't even want to bring this up, but like on the flight down, I had this weird fucking thought that like my leash was going to break.
Okay.
So that's feeding into like my paranoia about this leash.
And obviously we're going back in the ocean.
There's like some fucking real waves.
This is like, you know, this is.
Tell me a story.
Okay.
He's telling a serious story, Al.
Come on.
So be respectful.
I'm about to leave the surf shop.
Now I just go, fuck it.
I'm like, dude, can I just have another leash?
Oh, wow.
He goes, he goes, good for you.
Yeah, sure.
Get another leash.
I go, okay, fine.
Thank God.
Get the other leash, put on the other leash.
We'll go surfing that night.
Everything's good.
Had a fun surf session as the sun sets, beautiful.
Go out the next day.
I'm surfing.
Next day, it's fucking pretty big.
I'm by myself out there.
You know, there's other people also surfing, but I'm surfing by myself.
So you think that a little bit, but it's really nice, relaxing.
The waves are kind of heavy.
Like it's a lot of fucking water moving.
And I'm exhausted and I'm like, okay, I got to go fucking.
I'm going surfing.
I wake up every morning like six o'clock in the morning.
I'm like exhausted.
I've been surfing for a few hours and I'm trying to paddle and I realize I'm caught in a little riptide.
And a riptide basically is like when water is funneling back out to the ocean.
So there's this flow of water back out of the ocean and you can't paddle against it.
So what you do is you paddle across to the side.
And you can see the riptide.
You can feel it.
You just cannot paddle against it.
So I'm like, okay, let me just fucking paddle across and get the hell out of here.
But I'm absolutely fucking exhausted.
All of a sudden, I'm paddling across and a set comes in.
And I'm like, I'll take this wave.
I paddle, get the wave, ride the wave, ride the wave, try to do a little maneuver, fall off my board.
Everything's fine.
I get up, still on the fucking riptide.
And another wave is coming.
And I dive under that wave.
I feel this tug on my board, right?
Oh, shit.
And then all of a sudden, there's no tug at all.
And my leg is really free.
And I pop up and I stick my leg out and the leash is snapped.
Not the Velcro went off.
Oh, fuck.
The fucking rubber of the leash.
I've never happened to me the entire time that I've gone surfing.
I've been surfing since I was a child.
The rubber snapped.
I'm in a riptide and I'm exhausted.
Yeah.
Okay.
The board is in front of me, paddling into the riptide.
Okay.
I go and I'm sitting here and I'm thinking like a million miles a second.
I go, okay, I probably have enough energy to paddle to that board.
But if a wave takes that board away before I get there, now I don't have enough energy to paddle out of this riptide and I'm just getting sucked out to sea.
Yeah.
I go, fuck it.
I paddle my ass off for the fucking board and I see the board.
It's maybe 20 feet in front of me.
I'm paddling against this riptide.
Granted, the board is also in the riptide, so it's not moving that much further away from me.
I'm paddling my fucking ass off.
All of a sudden, a wave comes from behind me.
I'm like, Alex to me right here is the board.
Wave comes, covers me, takes the board.
I pop up again.
It's maybe by the TV.
Thank God the wave didn't take it too far.
I paddle, get on the board, and am able to get a fucking wave in and then go in.
Exhausted?
Exhausted.
And I look at the fucking leash, and there are these little cuts on the leash, the one that was switched to.
I'm like, how the fuck would those cuts be on the leash?
Imagine.
No.
You ever notice what people do with leashes on surfboards?
They wrap them around the fins.
The boards are left out in the sun baking and it melts the leash a little, which is rubber.
And that softness creates a little bit of a fray that then is pressed up against the fins that kind of cut it.
Crazy.
Fucked up that I had that thought that I was going to snap the leash and then the fucking thing snapped.
Damn.
Crazy, right?
Yeah, that's wild.
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You did the same thing about Burning Man.
Do you remember that?
No, what is it?
We were on the way to Burning Man.
You're like, bro, I just had this bad feeling, dude.
I just like, I like woke up in the middle of the night.
There's a fucking like explosion.
Like, it's like fucking crazy.
I was like, yeah, right, Burning Man.
They're about to burn the thing.
There's going to be an explosion.
And you were like, yeah, it's just weird.
And then all of a sudden, we're sitting in the RV.
Oh, fuck.
And then the back of the RV explodes.
Yeah, the propane tank.
Literally, the propane tank creates this giant crater in the earth.
I did have that.
But he said it before.
That was the weird part.
He was like, bro, I just knew something was going to happen.
I was like, well, this wasn't an explosion.
I had a nightmare about this.
It was just air or something that leaked out.
He's going to be psychic chelsea from now.
That's what I'm saying.
I have premonitions, bro.
I didn't have any premonitions about my food poison that I was going to get in both fucking countries.
Yeah, why did you think of that?
That affected you probably way worse.
I don't know.
But I can't do it.
I can't do it.
He's being tired in the ocean.
You can't do what?
He's a weak man.
You should have stayed with the original leash.
That probably would have been.
That's the craziness of it.
So, what's the lesson?
What's the lesson from Allah?
What is Allah trying to tell you?
Allah says is be grateful with what you have.
Wow.
Be grateful for what you have.
That's deep.
But as far as the food goes, listen, I love other countries.
I love traveling.
I love all that shit.
But like Amand's only for him.
Yeah, it's not about being, but it's the food.
I'm not built for it.
What'd you eat?
The food.
But like hot food?
The food.
And we were in a group of, now skip over to Colombia.
You were in a group of eight to ten the entire trip.
Yeah.
No, everyone else probably got sick, right?
Well, nobody else got sick.
Just me and my wife got sick.
But I ate.
We got sick together.
That's decent.
Yeah.
But it still sucks.
I mean, it's a great trip over there, right?
Oh, dude.
Yeah.
Costa Rica was great.
I mean, Colombia is fucking great.
Dude, Costa Rica is a fascinating fucking place.
Like, there's no military at all, right?
And it's a really interesting place because it's the only country in Central America and maybe even South America that has like almost no cartel presence.
And you're like, why not?
Why does this place have no cartel presence?
And I think it's a couple of reasons.
One, there's no military.
In the 1950s, they're like, yeah, we're not doing that shit.
America's got our back.
They're not going to let us get taken over by like El Salvador, Nicaragua.
Like that's a proxy war with Russia.
They got us.
And then two, they basically invested.
They basically tried not to lure nighttime tourists.
If you try to lure nighttime tourists, they need drugs.
Once there's drugs, there's somebody to service the drugs, which is the cartels.
And once there's cartels, there's violence and then danger everywhere.
I think this was the area you were at because they have the other part of Costa Rica that's like the resorts, casinos, a lot of prostitution.
There's a lot of sex work.
There's a lot of sex work, and there's no doubt that there is.
But compared to every other Honduras, like you, there are parts of Mexico that are not under control of the government.
They're under the control of the government.
There's parts of Honduras, there are parts of El Salvador that are under the control of the gangs.
Like they just run it.
And I think also because it falls south of Colombia.
So it's like...
No, no, it's north.
Oh, Costa Rica.
Oh, okay.
So, yeah.
So it's like, I think it's simply they just invested in like daytime activities.
Come here, do yoga.
Do there are parts that have a lot of sex trafficking and that kind of shit.
And naturally, you see it formed around that.
But a lot of these communities are built around like yoga, exploration, zip ones, eat a monkey, go to the jungle, do these types of things.
And if I'm like developing country, I was amazed when I was there that like most people spoke like four languages.
Oh, shit.
I was like, they put all their money that they would have spent in the military.
They put that shit in healthcare and education.
So a lot of them speak English.
Like it's a healthy.
And also another thing is like, even if you were going to try, I've never seen a country that is so dense in terms of jungle.
Even if you wanted to invade it, good luck.
They don't need a military.
It's called the trees.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, you know, how we see Russia invading Ukraine.
There's just this nice paved road where you take the fucking tanks down and that's how you get into Ukraine.
You can't.
Yeah.
Like Costa Rica is like a bunch of little pockets of communities that were kind of carved out of the jungle themselves and they just kind of exist on their own.
Yeah.
Like even this place that I was in, Santa Teresa, it was just like a bunch of Israelis, a bunch of Israelis and Argentines just went there and like started this town.
And like it's loosely connected with a municipality that's like a little part away, but it's kind of like their own.
And it's just like you can do that in Costa Rica.
This is what Santa Teresa was.
It was like the closest thing to being untouched while at the same time you can have like an amazing sushi dinner.
Yeah.
Like you're on an ATV and crossing rivers.
Like I crossed rivers in an ATV.
It felt like some fucking Yellowstone shit.
Yeah.
Like it was fire.
And then later that night, I'm having like an Italian style pizza in like a restaurant.
Yeah.
And that is rare.
Like I would invest in Costa Rica.
Like Costa Rica is fire.
Yeah.
And yeah, it's just like really cool.
The surf was so fucking consistent.
And like, yeah, I have.
So how was that going from like naturally beautiful, awesome Costa Rica to then going to Cartagena?
Listen, I got it.
Shout out to Luis.
Luis took care of us.
Your boy Luis, he was fucking unbelievable.
Like the most, like, when you imagine like a Latin, what is it called?
Like when they take care of you when you come, what is that called?
Hospitality?
Hospitality.
Like it was that times a million.
Like the guy gave us one of his security guards.
He's booking everything for, I mean, it was the most, I've never been welcomed in such a way in my entire life.
It was absolutely amazing.
Colombia is fascinating because it is the most inefficient place I've ever been in my entire life.
Like you, you have to ask for the bill minimum four times before you get the bill.
Yeah.
Like you get, can I have the bill?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And they just go four times.
It's like, do you want me to pay you?
Like, like, do you want?
And then when you're paying for something at the register, the thing to charge the card is never there.
And they're never shocked about that.
Like, you think you just leave one by the register, but you're like, I'll just pay with the card.
And they'll go, oh, let me go to the country and just organize it real quick and it would be a fucking superpower.
Yeah.
But there's no urgency whatsoever.
I mean, it's just like the most, the most efficient people are the people trying to sell you like Maracas on the streets.
And I found out they're not even trying to sell you Maracas.
The Maracas are a front to sell you Coke.
Oh, so they come up and they're like, you want Maracas, Maraca, Maranca.
And I really got the cocaine.
I don't give a fuck about this.
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Exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
It was all.
Anybody selling you anything on the street?
It's Tusi out there.
It's selling you cocaine.
That's what it's all about.
But it was really cool.
We had a great time.
Have a good time?
And then I got sick, of course, because my stomach.
His girl was sick the day before, powered through lunch.
You could tell.
I mean, she was gray, green, but just a trooper.
This guy gets dressed up for New Year's, get to this, it's like a property, a really elaborate New Year's Eve.
11.30 p.m.
The guy couldn't muster it out.
Miles, you're going to insert that photo of this is what he looks like right here, 30 minutes before New Year's, said, we got to go.
And the two of them.
Yeah, I left.
I left at 11.30.
11.
Where did you celebrate New Year's?
We walked out of a cab entering the old city of Cartana.
So what was it?
It was just liquid just coming out liquid.
No, no, no, it wasn't even shitting or anything like that.
It was just like absolute exhaustion.
Same thing happened to me when I was in Costa Rica.
I just ate something.
This is FDA.
This is what I was telling everybody here.
FDA, I need FDA.
You don't get in here unless you're FDA.
That's the new thing.
I don't need to like...
You'd be shitting crazy here, too.
Yeah, yeah, but I'm good.
Listen, not enough respect goes on FDA.
If it's FDA, you don't get sick.
And the beauty of that is that there's even food that they deem not food, right?
Like they looked at like even the subway bread.
They're like, this is yoga mats, right?
But like, it'll make you sick.
Yeah.
You can eat it.
It's not food.
When I go have food in other countries, I get sick.
Why is it when I have yoga mats, I don't get sick?
Yeah.
Is food yet?
It kills you later.
Yellow number five kills you much later.
We don't know that for a fact.
We don't know that for a while.
The vaccines FDA approved.
We don't know that for a fact.
And also, it wasn't the FDA approved.
They were kind of bullied into doing that kind of stuff.
The FDA would never approve that initially.
So they were bullied.
But the FDA, if you eat FDA, you don't get sick.
I don't know what else will happen to you, but you don't get sick.
If it's FDA.
I need FDA.
You might get preserved from the inside and then eventually you just fall over somewhere.
Maybe that happens.
But I won't get sick.
Get mummified.
Dig up any American.
I think they're mummified.
I think they're perfectly mummified.
What, the inside of the subject?
Yeah, I think just all Americans, yeah.
Right now.
We love mummies.
Nobody was ever upset when they found a mummy, right?
They're like really excited.
They're like, wow, you can see the teeth.
This is teeth from 10,000 years ago.
That's true.
That's true.
This is FDA.
And I had enough of the people saying, like, oh, the food isn't real in America, whatever, like that.
It doesn't matter.
It works.
And my stomach doesn't work out there.
And I like it, doesn't work.
It's like Europe.
It's not like that.
Say again.
In Europe?
They have FDA.
They have more strict FDA.
Yeah, the French drug.
Their shit is better.
They have FDA.
There's no FDA when your fucking Colombian grandma's pit sweat is dripping all over my areapas.
I don't need that.
I need FDA.
Because FDA don't play that shit.
Fake boobs.
It's not real, but it's better.
There it is.
Yep.
And listen, I understand there are some limitations with the FDA.
And they do be fucking shit up by making it healthy for you.
But make it healthy for you.
What do you mean?
For example, they will not allow your shit to go bad.
Ah.
Okay, so the FDA goes, I don't want none of this shit spoiling.
If it's spoiled, it got to get off the shelves.
So what do the companies do?
They put all these preservatives in the food to make it not spoil.
But the FDA was right.
The FDA is trying to protect us.
It's the companies putting the crazy shit in, so it don't get spoiled.
Yes.
Sure.
FDA, you never go wrong with FDA.
What about kosher?
Why can't you do kosher?
Say it again.
Is it FDA?
Well, some, yeah.
I'll do kosher FDA.
Was OxyContin FDA approved?
Yeah, yeah.
Does it stop your pain?
Doesn't it stop your pain?
Does it make you sick?
It was the greedy doctors that did it.
Does it make you sick?
I think it makes you sick in the end.
No, it doesn't.
Not taking it makes us sick.
Thank you.
Yep.
You can't tell me one thing that's FDA that makes you sick.
What about halal?
You go to like a different country?
Is it FDA?
You went to Morocco, you ate halal.
It wasn't FDA, but it was halal.
There's fucking bugs all over the halal.
Okay?
There are.
There's bugs all over.
That's not FDA.
Bugs are FDA.
That's not FDA.
How are you going to eat the inside of a chicken, but you won't eat a bug?
Come on, bro.
What do you mean?
Those are the same?
Why do you think a bug is going to ruin it, but you'll eat dead animal?
What are you trying to say right now?
Because I'm confused.
You might be making a point.
It might be me.
It might be me.
I'm saying, why won't you?
But it sounds like you're comparing insects to chickens.
Yeah.
I'm just saying, meat is meat is what you're saying.
You won't eat a bug.
Oh, you think insects is meat?
It's close to meat.
Can you look up into the FDA and see if the insects is meat?
I'm pretty sure the insects ain't meat in there.
What about FDA insects?
Would you eat FDA insects?
If the FDA approves it, it's not, this is not like a passion project for me.
This is FDA.
So you know what I'm saying?
If it's FDA, it can go in here and then everything's good.
If it's not FDA, we're rolling the dice.
And every time I roll the dice, I crap out.
So what are you going to eat when you go abroad now?
Do they have an FDA?
No.
Some countries have FDA.
Not a lot of these places.
In those countries?
The coolest country.
I will eat fast food.
I will eat McDonald's.
You can bring your own food.
You can bring like bars or something.
I might do that.
Or I might find the most FDA-type foods in those places.
I was a wild boy.
I'm eating street arepas.
Wow.
This is not built for that.
That was wild.
Yeah, this is not built for that.
Arepas are not.
The tacos, everything.
It was great.
It was great.
We had the same exact meal 10 times in a row, five nights in Colombia.
Lunch dinner, lunch, dinner, 10 times.
Arepas cold like vegetables, like whatever washed with the, is call me water good?
Because like in India, you're not eating anything that's not cooked.
If it's washed, cold tomatoes even, I'm not eating it.
But the only thing that was cooked was but isn't that crazy?
Because they don't have FDA.
But if they have FDA, you don't have to worry about it.
Someone in New York doesn't have FDA.
I'm sorry.
What did you say?
Little kids selling stuff on the train.
You think that's FDA?
What you talking about?
All those candies they sell you on the train for their soup, for their sports.
Wild cards are not FDA.
Some lady's selling.
I'm sorry.
Do you not see the letter outside that lets you know what letter it is?
This says F. Of a cart?
For FDA.
This guy's crazy.
You're crazy.
This guy's not only that.
The cart food is more fresh because you can't keep old food on the cart.
The shit you get that day is the shit that's cooked.
Diner coffee is super FDA.
You think diner coffee is FDA?
Mark.
I cannot eat.
I can't even.
I can't wait to explain it.
He's flabbergasted.
Listen, first of all, diner coffee is absolutely FDA because the grounds are FDA.
You can't get the grounds in here.
Where do you think they're getting them from?
You think they're going to Kenya and they're throwing in a backup?
No, but they got FDA, but then they got unfda when they got put into a gross machine.
I'm sorry.
Things start FDA and then they become less FDA when they get unfair.
What is making the machine gross?
It's hot water going through it, Mark.
What the fuck could happen with hot water?
Some guy putting his hands there.
He's trying to clean it.
He's like fucking grabbing bacon.
Why you just put your hands in the middle of a coffee?
You put the bag in and the bag touches the inside.
You get fucking chewy cola.
Come on.
Now you get bacteria if hot colours.
You get bacteria and then sits.
Why do you got to clean coffee?
Why do you got to clean it?
No, if it stays hot, then the hot water is getting pneumonia.
You know what?
You know what?
Y'all, y'all, y'all risk it on that.
Okay.
Okay.
You don't have it, and I'm going to take my risk on hot water cleaning shit.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm going to roll the dice on hot water cleaning stuff.
What do you think is that a repas, bro?
That's hot water.
No, it's not.
That's oil from some grandma's tit sweat.
That's Colombian grandma tit sweat.
What the oil?
That is Colombian abuela tit sweat, and it's dripping all over my room.
Are you sure it's from the food?
Because you didn't have any diarrhea.
You didn't have any vomiting.
You just felt it.
I had diarrhea today.
That was so.
I'm back eating FDA.
That's not true.
When'd you get back?
I got back last night.
I had one meal.
Do you know what it was?
That's the one that got you sick.
But you don't even know what it was.
What was it?
You had to make it up?
No, I did.
I had fucking chicken matzo soup, so it's them.
Yeah, geez.
Oh, that'll do it to you.
Yeah.
You can't do that.
Yeah, yeah.
I can't fuck with that shit.
Overrated dish.
Yeah, I can't fuck with that shit.
But no, Columbia was fine.
We had a great time.
It was a lot of fun.
I love the adult couples trip.
We all want adult couples.
And I want to find a way to master the adult couples' New Year trip.
So it was 10 of us.
And I just want to find a way to lock that in every year, completely mastered what the experience needs to be.
Because what was the benefit of having the group?
He got to bring Nick.
Oh, yeah.
All Nikki.
Yeah.
Dove doesn't get, we get to bring Dove's couples.
That's way more fun.
Shout out to Nick.
That's a good date, actually.
That'd be more fun than whoever you're going to bring, honestly.
Yeah, agreed.
Yes.
I mean, you wanted to go in these.
I mean, I did expect more out of Columbia.
A little overrated.
Talk to me about that.
Talk to me about that.
I feel guilty saying because Luis was so great.
He's been such an amazing experience.
Just all the attractive women, you're saying.
Yeah.
You see the beautiful Colombians in Miami and you think that they're just discovered.
They're out.
Yeah.
I would agree.
Still beautiful girls, but not what's, you know.
I think that Dove is on to something.
Yeah.
You might be on something.
I think Dove's onto something.
But also, like, the city, it was really cool.
It was really interesting.
But like, if you're looking for the Spanish colonial experience, like that's what you're trying to see with like an indigenous vibe.
So far, I haven't seen one that beats Mexico.
So you're going further for a not that much more unique experience that doesn't also beat Mexico.
Mexico will always be top of my list too.
Mexico is undeniable.
Mexico is the fucking GOAT, bro.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
It hits every level.
You were in Mexico.
I was just in Mexico.
You hit indigenous.
You hit Spanish colonial.
You hit the best food possible.
Food was fire.
Ugh.
Talk to us.
Talk to us.
We went, we would go to this house.
It was like a house that was turned into a restaurant.
We went there like two or three times and I just got like fried whole fish.
They just deep fried a snapper, pan-fried a snapper.
And it was so fucking good.
Maybe the best fish I've ever eaten.
Everybody's so friendly.
It was great to get sun.
You know, you don't get any sun in New York, the shitty place that we live.
And why would you leave your family for such a shitty dude?
What a selfish.
Whenever you want to go back to Texas, whenever you want to go back to Texas.
Back to Texas.
I never left.
I would never leave my family, dude.
I'll bring them with me.
We'll see.
I'll bring them with me.
We'll see.
We will.
Why don't you bring yours?
Where?
To here.
My mom is not going to survive in New York City.
You would say that.
Mom, you can't make it here.
She moved across the world.
She made it in Texas.
You don't think she's going to make it in New York?
No, physically, she's like, she sprained her fucking wrist, almost broke her hand at my wedding, walking onto the dance floor.
You sprained your ankle on a floor.
Yeah, that's where I get it from.
Imagine me in 40 years.
I got to protect this woman.
That's fair.
That's fair.
All right, but go on.
We went to Punta Mita, Mexico.
It was amazing.
Beautiful trip.
Beautiful place.
I will say I had, I texted you about this.
I had like a real existential crisis because we were staying at like a nice resort.
The gayest crisis.
And I saw like...
It infuriated me when you texted me.
I saw like...
Is this gayer than your leash breaking?
He got tired in the water.
He was almost dying.
He's like, oh, my God.
I got to swim.
Bro, he was swimming the whole time.
He got so tired.
Imagine a black guy making fun of you for swimming, bro.
That's crazy.
Imagine.
Imagine how shitty your swimming story is.
All fucking daisy, bro.
That you're not even scared.
You're like, swimming.
Come on.
My thing was like, why'd you go over the board?
Swim in.
Leave the fucking board.
I'm in the riptide.
I can't swim in.
But you can't, you swim to the left and then get out that shit.
I don't think I put enough pressure on how exhausted I was.
So getting back to the board helps just so you can like float on the board.
Exactly.
I was dead.
But anyway, it's way funny if you're calling gay.
So you were right.
Also, having a premonition about it is some shit you're saying.
That's crazy.
The premonition shit you're all right, bro.
That's the shit your girl is doing.
I just had a feeling.
I just had a feeling.
I switched out the leash.
It wasn't a feeling.
I acted on it.
This is a real thing that happened.
And I went back and I told the dude the thing broke.
He wasn't even that excited or nothing.
Because he knew.
Because he knew.
He's like, you deserved it.
He's in touch with the spirits.
He's in touch with the spirits, bro.
That motherfucker was right.
He understands what the spirits are trying to do.
He really was.
Okay, go, go.
Keep going.
I'm at this resort.
I'm seeing rich people, which is already kind of like...
Keep in mind how much my, how gay mine was.
And then put on a...
I said, you'll get it.
I saw in five days, maybe 10 minorities the entire time.
It was so white.
Not staff.
What's the name of this place?
What is it?
It was the St. Regis.
Oh, Punta Mita.
You can book it.
You'll love it.
It's my favorite place.
But I was like, yo, if I have kids, if we make as much money as I want to make, they're going to be surrounded by white people all the time.
It was already hard for me.
I barely know anything about being Indian.
And I wasn't like, I grew up with a bunch of Indians outside of school.
My kids aren't going to have that as much.
How do you not make them super just lost?
You asked me.
Because you're the only person who would get it.
Yeah, I mean, yes.
I get being the only black guy in a lot of fucking spaces.
And rich people are fucking weird, dude.
I saw one, people were bringing their nannies on the trip, whatever.
Let's address this one thing that you said.
Go ahead and talk about that.
Yeah.
Maybe you don't go to Mexico.
Maybe go back to hang out with your family.
Yeah, fuck that.
You know, your family's Indian.
You fucking sell out.
You don't hang out with your family.
You sell out?
Why don't you go to the same register?
Oh, I feel so out of place here.
I'm too rich.
Hey, do you feel like I wonder where home is?
How about home?
Do you feel less guilty about ignoring your family?
You're too rich right now.
What am I going to do?
How can I relate to these poor Indians?
I'm too rich.
Literally, you're texting me, and I'm like, I can't believe I'm reading this.
Do you feel less guilty about ignoring your family?
I might have too much money that all these other Indians that are doctors and engineers won't be able to do things with me.
Son, where were they?
Come stay.
Families.
Let's go.
No, son.
Indians ain't spending New Year's like that.
Christmas, cool.
We're coming after Christmas.
Come be there.
No black people.
It got to the point when when you saw other minorities, you would be like, hey, hey, you were like talking to each other.
Nobody else talking.
All of us are like, oh, hey, hey, how are you?
Son, we went to the whitest.
I didn't know.
I just booked a nice resource.
There's only one register because if you think of the register that you know, I think it was just the time that he went.
When you travel New Year's at a destination location, it's going to be priced even more.
So you kind of get people priced out.
But I went to St. Regis in Puerto Rico and it was pretty mixed.
I need to go there.
Listen, it's a very easy way to figure this out.
Does Southwest go there?
It's a very simple.
Do you want to be around more of my noises?
Do you want to go anywhere?
Do you want to be around more of my noise?
If Southwest goes there, you will see plenty more in my business.
Go to simple as that.
White people.
They maximize their bonvoy points.
St. Regis is a bonvoy party.
Oh, yeah.
That's going to do it.
They book up way down.
Nah, these were wealthy people.
Go to India.
They book way more.
Holiday Travel Costs00:10:17
Go to India.
You were crying about being too rich.
That's what it seemed like in the text.
And I was like, I can't believe that they're saying, I'm having an existential crisis.
And it's like, go to India.
You don't got to go to Mexico.
I'm not around Indians.
There's a country where there's a lot of Indians.
I feel mostly, I feel Indian most of the time.
Not when I'm around you guys, but most of the time I feel Indian.
I just don't want my kids to grow up.
Like, I think the reason LeBron is so like openly like, not militant, but like pro-black loudly, I do think part of it is you grow up, you're sending your kids to the same school as the fucking Kardashians.
You're looking at your kids like, how are they going to know anything about who they are?
This is just the whitest world I've put.
You don't have to live in Bel Air or Beverly Hills.
You can live in an Indian community.
The question you have to decide is: do you want the fancy white people shit more than you want the Indian cultural shit?
Yeah, I think you have to choose.
Well, you can live in Edison, New Jersey, or wherever that shit is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like you can, but if you make the decision you don't want that.
I don't want that Indian.
Edison.
Edison alone.
Well, come on.
Okay, so that's Indian.
That's the existential crisis.
It's not, am I going to make too much money?
Because with money, you have the choice to be as Indian as you want.
The existential crisis is, do I want to live that Indian shit or do I want to live this fancy shit?
Yes.
That's the existential crisis.
That I would have much more, it has less.
That's what I was trying to say.
Way more.
That's what you were saying.
Oh, is that what you got from it?
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't get it.
I didn't get it.
But that's.
He's like, it sucks because, like, yes, he's successful and he wants to be in these places, but it sucks that the downside of being in these places is like, I see less and less of my people.
And that shit, that's true.
To me, that's way more vulnerable.
To me, that's the vulnerability is the.
That's what I was trying to say.
Exactly.
Is the admission of, I want to do this fancy shit.
I want to do this fancy shit.
I want to live.
It happens to be white people.
And it's not even white, like regular white, like rich, white, wealthy white.
I feel uncomfortable around them motherfuckers.
Son, they are a white, bro.
This is the craziest thing.
People are bringing their nannies on this trip.
I'm not going to judge that.
Fine.
What blew my mind, two days in a row, you see these people at breakfast, the same families.
I saw a family that was all eating breakfast and then their nanny was sitting away from the table back against the wall, not eating, just like getting the food and shit for the kids and then come sit in her chair and it's like, yo, I think she might have had food at one point, but like eating it over a chair with no, it's like, yo, let her sit with you.
That's a really, that is a really interesting, that's a really interesting situation that I've seen some people deal with that is incredibly difficult.
And I was talking to my wife about like, what is the best way to handle it?
The best way that we would handle it is you just make that person part of your family and they're part of all these things, right?
Some of these people that have a lot of money, they have a lot of staff working for their home.
And one way of dealing with that is while also trying to like have some semblance of privacy.
It's almost like the New York effect.
You know how like New Yorkers, when we walk down the street, we just kind of pretend nobody else is there.
We have our conversations at a level of volume wherever people can hear.
And we're just like, everybody's just kind of going to ignore.
And what they do is in order to have like this home life, they ignore the staff.
And when you view it as an outsider, especially for the first time, you're like, this is like inhuman.
Yeah.
And I tried to like be understanding of it when I saw some people do it.
And my perception is it's the only way that they can have like a private family moment while still having the comforts of the staff.
I know it's, I'm not, I'm not trying to cap for them.
Yeah.
Please, please understand it.
I'm just trying to, I'm trying to justify why they ignore another human being that's in their presence.
Yeah.
And I assume it's because they're trying to create normalcy in their home.
I said I was going to try not to judge.
Now I'm going to judge a bit.
What was throwing me is like, I would see her like putting cream cheese on the bagel for the kids or whatever.
And it's like, yo, you could just, if you want privacy, you don't need your nanny there to get the kids bagels at the buffet and breakfast.
You could do that much as a mom.
You could go or dad, go get the food, bring it back.
Like you don't need to sit her there weirdly facing out and not talking to anybody.
It was just an odd, and that was the most blatant thing, but it was, I felt like there was a lot of, and maybe I, my, you know, my wife is watching white lotus and I watched a couple episodes and that's in my head.
Bro, that shit.
I'm like, yo, what is this fucking world where I see nannies loving their kids more than the mom or somebody sitting like just stat?
It just felt odd to me, but it's fire.
It's comfortable.
It's nice.
The staff is so nice.
You want to be there.
You want to make all this money to live that life.
And then when you live that life and you think about your kids, am I depriving my kids of any kind of normalcy, any kind of roots, any kind of identity?
It was a fucking like, dude, I want that, but at what cost?
You think you want it until you have it.
And you're like, oh, my kids don't fucking know me.
That's the thing.
You think you want it.
And then what's the cost of what this thing sounds so great?
My bad if I didn't interpret it that way.
But maybe it was in our text exchange because it was so quick and we were both on vacation.
But the way it was worded was like, I'm making too much money, man.
My kids don't have a choice.
It sucks for them.
If I make as much money as I want to make, I'm probably going to, why would I not?
It's human nature to be like, well, let's be comfortable as a bad person.
It's comfortable as possible.
You got to deprivate it.
You got to say all that shit to me.
I ain't going to go into our text.
Probably not.
But you have to make consideration.
In the middle of like trying to figure out what the fuck I'm feeling to do.
I think you have to make the conscious decision to deprive yourself of that.
To go, it's not worth getting all the things because it's not healthy for one, my life, but also my kids' life.
Alex?
Did we spoke about it already?
We did.
I started.
Or unless that part got cut out.
Maybe it did.
Spend a lot of time with my family, New Year's with his mom.
I started 21.
Oh, yeah, you had his little grapes and shit.
You need your grapes.
Yeah, a little fruit addition we did.
This is what started the whole hour argument between us.
Yes.
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
Well, in case we cut that, Alex ate grapes for New Year's with his mother.
Yeah, I spent time with him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Miles?
You should try it.
What time?
I went to Florida, had a really good time.
Hung with family, but also sort of like Schultz.
We don't really do big things for the holidays.
So it was just very relaxed and comfortable.
But you were still with family.
Keywords.
Yeah, but they wouldn't have cared if I didn't come home.
Thank you, bro.
Yeah.
Yeah, white people are so evolved, man.
We're so evolved.
Family's a construct, dude.
Yeah.
These minorities get so excited about a holiday.
Isn't it crazy?
Like, they go crazy for a holiday.
We didn't exchange gifts this year for the first time ever.
Wow.
Damn.
That's crazy.
It's sort of interesting.
We just drank coffee.
Who made that decision?
Me, sort of.
Oh, so your parents wanted to get you some and you're like, nah.
No, they just were like, we don't know we would get you this year.
And I was like, I don't know what to get you guys.
And they're like, well, let's not do it.
We don't really have to.
There's no reason.
We all have what we need.
And we just sat and drank coffee for like, talked for four hours on Christmas morning by the pool.
It was way better.
That's actually so sweet.
And that's the real gift, right?
So sweet.
Yeah.
Time with family.
Time with family, bro.
Okay, where's Dove?
Because I'm sure something happened to him on this vacation.
Wasn't he with you?
Mark almost.
He was, but I forgot most of the things that happened.
I'm sure I wasn't with you, but hold.
I mean, it was a lot.
Dove, Dove, what happened on the vacation?
Yeah, Shell said you had a lot of Tussie.
Were you risen?
Were you rised up or what?
All the Molly.
Oh, all of it.
All of it?
But did we fight about anything before that?
Did anything happen before that?
We usually get in a good fight every trip.
Yeah, it was really good.
I'm trying to think.
Was there anything?
No, because you were fucking sick.
Annoying.
I know.
I was sorry.
It was bad.
It was really bad.
No, we had a great time.
You wakeboarded.
It's on the islands.
Oh, yeah, that was wonderful.
Why are you talking like that?
My voice fucked up?
Oh, no.
It just looked like you had something in your mouth.
Oh, sorry about that.
I'm back.
Wait, you got Molly Mouth?
I came back 10:30 a.m. the next day when he was coming back trying to put a piece of bread from a bakery in his mouth.
And I was like, can you buy to that?
Oh, yeah.
Dove got back the next day with, he was wearing this black button-down shirt the night before.
I know that shirt.
He looked phenomenal in it.
It was, he had it buttoned down to here.
He had a necklace with an iguana on it.
He was like just going.
Also, the theme of the party, the theme of the party was savage, right?
And Dove is like, yo, you should wear one of those Native American headdresses.
And I was like, yeah, maybe not for the Savage-themed party, Dove.
Maybe that's not a great idea.
So we go.
So Dove wears the iguana.
He's got this black button-down shirt, the black pants.
He looked phenomenal.
He looked great.
He's tan, incredible.
The next day he comes back.
I see him in the morning.
It's 10.30.
He finally gets back and he's got the like fuzz from the inside of the shirt lining under each of his titties, right?
That's happened before.
I've been your belly bone is full.
He's got black lint, like two smiles under each one of his titties that is just sweated off the shirt and then like coagulated under his fists and then just been locked there under.
I don't notice it until I start arguing with him.
I was like, do you do a lot of drugs?
And he just goes, he goes, I'm not talking about this right now.
And he lifted his arms and he's two black shirts.
That was titty smacking.
Titty smuggling.
That's funny.
But yeah, we got to master the adult New Year's retreat, man.
How do we master it, Dove?
Do New Year's on Molly.
And trust me.
I wish I was at the party.
The party looked really good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It looked really fucking good.
Blondish?
You got a bad guy.
No.
10:30.
God damn.
Yeah, that's wild.
One drinking, one drink, no sex.
One drink, no sex.
Sometimes it's one drink, no sex.
Sweet boy.
Admitted drug use, but still, sweet boy.
Racist Encounters with Jamil00:02:54
Yeah.
I ain't got no pussy, bro.
Come on.
New year, new me.
What does that mean?
Not dating this year.
You're not dating?
No.
I want to be arranged marriage.
Oh, we can do that.
You got that, bro.
Yeah.
Can we bet online for this one?
What do we need to do?
Give them two weeks.
Okay.
Any other stories from New Year's?
I'm trying to think.
Any other stories from your vacations?
Anything else?
Anything else happened?
Anything funny happened in Mexico?
Nah, bro.
Great time.
Relaxed.
Had fun.
You guys.
No.
Weirdly fight-free.
Really?
Usually vacation is good for one fight.
Nothing silly that.
Did you guys do adventure stuff?
That was a trick I realized.
If you don't want to fight, do adventure stuff and everyone's too tired to fight.
It's like you're a dog.
You just kind of like walk each other and then everyone's too tired and then there's just nothing.
You're getting out of your system.
He's trying to call women bitches in.
It's so dangerous.
I didn't say bitches.
I said animals.
Dangerous.
You said animals.
You said actual dogs.
Yeah, that's way better than a bitch.
I'm not an animal like you guys.
It's a dangerous game that you're playing.
But no, you just go, you like go ski, go for a run.
Walk your girl.
But I'm also walking me.
We're both, dude.
We're both dogs.
I have a story.
Columbia taught me that it's possible to say things that are incredibly racist without it being racist.
And they're these guys that rap on the street.
Okay.
They come up to you and they just start rapping and they hope that they tip you.
They have like a little boom box that they're carrying with you and they're rapping in Spanish, but like they'll also just like when they see you, they say stuff.
And they have a few generic things for like whatever race you are.
But like when they just say it to like a black person, it's kind of wild.
And we sell this to Dell.
And so Jamil's with us.
So it's like Morocco.
But they got speakers and shit.
And then, you know what I mean?
Like it's amplification, bro.
So we just walking down the street after our last meal.
And they call to Jamil.
They call to Jamil and they just start going.
This is what they're saying that we don't think.
They just go.
They got in front of them.
The music starts pumping.
Boom, boom, boom, whatever like that.
And then the guys are starting to go, black boy, black boy, what you gonna do?
What you gonna do when they come for you?
Black boy, black boy.
What you gonna do?
What you gonna do?
Right?
And then they just turn to Nick and he's got glasses on.
Honey Potter, black boy, black boy.
What you gonna do?
What you gonna do when they come for you?
Turn to dove.
Sharu Khan, black boy, black boy.
Dude, it was fucking, they started doing this Bob Marley shit because, you know, Jamil has the dreads or whatever like that.
Oh, my God.
And it's, you're just being racist to somebody, but you know that they don't even know better.
Yeah.
Cooking Oil Scams on the Street00:02:00
So it was kind of just like silly and funny.
And Jamil's coming down on Molly.
He doesn't even have the energy to engage.
So he's just kind of like locked into this performance.
And we're like looking for money to pay them to stop.
Oh my God.
Like the black boy, black boy.
Hardy Potter.
Did they get you?
No, they didn't get me.
Damn.
I don't have a look, I guess.
But like, yeah, if you're a white guy with glasses, Harry Potter, if you're Indian, I guess I thought that he was in the middle of the day.
Yeah, dude.
Shout out to the Shadukana huge.
He's the Hollywood guy.
He's the guy.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'd be thrilled.
Yeah.
Dude, it was fucking funny.
Oh, that's fun.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I think we're done.
Yeah.
But what are you thinking about?
My last observation on, and I think that this is just a function of like everybody going to Cartagena for New Year's.
So there's just so many.
It's like there's a few moments or a few days for people to get as much money as they possibly can on the street by like selling you goods and like following you around.
And it like puts you in like these weird like moral situations where you have like a child will come up to you and like go like this.
Like I'm sure you experienced that in India.
And it's like fucking heartbreaking to like ignore them.
Yeah.
I got hustled.
Yeah, because you're a fucking good person.
You didn't get hustled.
You do the right thing.
So this girl's like, you know, they ask for money, but you don't know if it's going back to them or whatever.
So I'm like, yo, I'll go to the store.
I'll buy you, buy you what you want, but take me to the whatever.
So she goes to the store, she buys like cooking oil, and it's like, I don't know, 150 rupees or whatever.
I buy it and I'm like, so like heartbroken, like, dude, this is all this girl wants is cooking oil so her family can cook and eat.
And I'm telling a guy from India, he's like, no, She knows it's the most expensive thing in the store.
As soon as you left, she went back, got a refund, got the cash, you idiot.
Hilarious.
And I was like, hilarious.
Oh, Jesus.
I'm in fucking tears about this story.
Oh, yeah.
Cooking oil is a good one, though.
Yeah.
Dude, it's brilliant.
You hear cooking oil, you're like, yeah, what are you going to do with cooking oil?
Yeah.
How could you possibly?
It's more sad than food.
It's for the family.
Oh, God.
I was in tears.
Legitimately, I was about to cry.
And somebody's like, no, you're a retard, man.
Politicians Preying on Goodwill00:06:16
Yeah.
So this is the tricky thing, right?
Like, let's say you're making a decision.
How do we make this place hospitable for tourists?
This is a fucked up game, which in the long run helps all the citizens, but in the short term, can potentially hurt some of these people.
Every one of them in the long run will be better off.
If you can really build the tourist industry, they'll all eventually have jobs or have jobs that are based on jobs in the tourist industry.
It doesn't matter what it is.
Even if it's like cleaning up the streets, well, there's more garbage because there's more people coming, blah, blah, blah.
So it's one of those things, like when you're walking down the street, I'm sure it's more around this time of year, but like every second somebody's asking for something, trying to sell you something.
Like, did the day, I mean, it was, I've been in places where you feel, like in Morocco, I thought there was a good balance where it's like they asked you when you're a souk, but they're not following you.
You don't have to say no six times.
Like you almost have to be stern.
Yeah.
They'll just fucking follow you.
And even if you're stern, they'll still keep asking.
And they'll still keep going.
And it's just like, it was one of those things where it's like, if you're in charge, you're in government, whatever, you have to find a way to explain to these people or you do it with the police where it's like, the more we harass tourists, the less they're going to recommend this as a place to go to.
Because there's only so many times a child can walk up to you and say they're hungry before you fucking, you're like, I can't put myself in that situation.
Like, that hurts me.
Yeah.
So, but so you almost need the government to be like, guys, by doing this, less people are going to come here, which means less opportunities for you to make money off them.
Like, if you're just sitting down having a meal outside and every two seconds there's a new person coming to fucking sell you something, I'm never going to that restaurant again.
So how do you as a government communicate it to the most desperate people in society that they have to stop doing the thing that is keeping them alive in order to, in the long run, make more money and benefit everybody in the city?
Yeah.
That's fucking hard.
I don't want to be the person to tell somebody that.
No.
Yeah, I don't think you could.
Yeah, I don't think you can.
It's one of the reasons.
Because they're also like, my survival depends on this.
So fuck you.
So fuck you.
It's one of those things where you're just like, politicians in America, we give politicians in America so much shit and we should because it's fucking easy.
Your job is easy here, dude.
It is fucking easy.
Politicians in a third world country, you got to worry about being nice enough so America don't fucking prop up another person explaining shit to the police in a way where they don't revolt.
And also the police are now telling the poorest people in society that they can't do things that are going to feed themselves.
So now that's going to weigh emotionally on those, like, I don't wish that job on anybody.
Third world politician?
Fuck me, bro.
Nah.
But at the same time, you also got to not be corrupted.
And then that's the other thing.
It's like, how can you not be corrupted when literally the basis of the job is corruption?
You're going to have these countries that are paying you money for special interests.
What are you going to do?
Take that money and then it just go, well, this goes into the government bin.
Then the people in government are like, well, how did that money get there?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like.
Or you don't take the bribe and just get killed.
And then you get fucking killed.
It's like the job already has so much corruption built in.
The idea of you being a little more corrupt is probably almost, it's not even seductive.
It's like normal.
Yeah.
That's what you do.
Yeah.
So how do you do that?
How do you explain to those people?
Because that to me would be a hard thing to recommend.
And I loved my time at Cartagena, but it would be hard based on that to go, we need to go back there and experience that.
Whereas Morocco, I would tell people to go to Morocco all the time.
You're going to be, you're going to be asked for shit, but not part of the experience.
You just have to compartmentalize, sadly.
You got to subsidize that or something.
You got to have a lot of people.
You're mentally compartmentalized.
Dude, I saw a kid, another kid in Mumbai that was just like on the street, just so many flies around him.
And like, we just went and gave it, it was me and my homie Arjung the shelves, but like he gave him water and like talked to him.
And like, I was so shook up, I was like, fuck.
And then, you know, whatever.
We fed him.
We got him some food somewhere.
But it's like, it took something that extreme.
I legitimately thought this kid might be dead and everybody's just walking by him.
So that's that.
You kind of got to compartmentalize and be like, yeah, I'll help where I can.
Yeah, you got to compartmentalize because I think they also see you as a mark.
100%.
So it's like, now everybody's coming to the stage.
Because I didn't feel it that much.
Like, yeah, we were getting people come up, but if you just kind of ignore it, man.
But the only thing more offense, like, like the more offensive than like being seen as a mark is being seen as like one of them.
Right?
Right?
They thought you were poor like them now.
They thought you were fit in.
They're like, did you run out of Moroccas?
You need some more?
You're going to get an approach.
What you going to do?
What you got?
How do you, yeah, you got to compartmentalize it, but how do you, as a government, I guess you're right.
You got to subsidize the poorest groups of people so that they're not out in the street begging like that.
And then you have to police the ones that are fake.
Yeah.
Like you'll see this in Europe where like women like will have their gypsies.
Yeah.
Like and they'll like paint or like put like sores on their kids.
Oh, yeah.
And then or they'll like give them Benadryl.
It's like they're so tired.
Yeah.
And then like they're just holding their kid and their kid looks like it's like festering with wounds.
And then you're like just pouring money on them.
Then they jump at a Mercedes and go down.
And it's like, okay.
So it's like you have people like that that are preying on the goodwill of other people and making their situation seem more dire to get more money.
So you have to somehow penalize that while at the same time subsidizing people that actually need the help.
Yeah.
And it's like, how do you know someone's kid isn't hungry?
I'm going to give you a ticket for pretending your kid was hungry.
The kid can't even speak.
Yeah.
Like, I guess he's saying if you subsidize for the poorest people, then anybody begging is like, no, we subsidize.
Yeah.
There's a food bank right here going on.
How do you subsidize too with the fucking geopolitics?
You got to borrow it from the IMF and then they take all your fucking coconuts and your porphyry.
Exactly.
But it is a thing that like if you're trying to develop an area of your country into a tourist industry, it has to be amenable to tourists.
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It has to be warm, welcoming, and they cannot experience that level of discomfort.
The problem is once people know there's tourists there, they come in with trinkets.
Yeah.
And the trinkets is cool.
Sell some trinkets.
He hates saying no, I think.
That shit bothered me in Venice, too.
Like, I'm in Venice and I'm looking at this beautiful ancient city and then I'm seeing all these fucking little like kiosks and shit.
But I'm like, that's how it goes.
I'm almost like, that's how it always was, though.
You go to Venice fucking 400 years ago, it's got shucking oysters.
Yeah, but the oysters are from Venice.
Like at least what I loved about Morocco is those things that they were selling in the souk.
Maybe they were made in some fucking place in China and then brought over.
Maybe they weren't.
They look like they were made there.
At least make it look like it's from there.
The pink I love Venice shirt is made in China.
I see.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm just saying it takes away.
That's the same thing where you pull the toy and it flies in the air.
This ain't Venetian kids.
What the fuck is going on?
Went a thousand years ago.
And it's like, outside of my inconvenience, I'm thinking about how it affects people who want to go there, which ultimately affect the people who live there.
And that's what benefits them the most.
I feel like it's that there's iterations of that everywhere.
Because in Morocco, you hated how aggressive they were with the monkeys and shit.
Yeah, that was too much.
So, but you didn't have, you didn't get hassled for, you know, donations on the street as much.
But it was like, I'd take the beggars in Colombia over the aggressiveness of the motherfuckers in Morocco.
I felt like that was uncomfortable.
But we were seeking out the monkeys.
That's the only difference.
When we were walking by, everybody's just like, oh, come here, come here, come here.
You can't even look.
You got to be like, you got to put our fucking visors on.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
I guess everybody experiences their own, but it's just one of those things that like you think about with a developing country.
I was thinking about, you know, just with Costa Rica, I'm like, wow, how could you help foster an environment that would like help these local people not only make money so they could survive, but also like thrive off the growth of the city?
It's one of those things like in Costa Rica, like there's unwritten rules in terms of businesses that you can't enter.
You know, there's a lot of foreign investment coming in and there's like three things you just can't touch.
You can't touch surf lessons.
If you're not a local, that's theirs.
Can't touch ATV rentals.
Everybody gets around through ATVs.
And then you can't sell drugs.
And there's no rule book that says it anywhere.
The people have a strong enough culture.
They self-police.
And you have to figure out a way that tourism actually goes to the people that live there and not just to like these foreign companies that exist in the hotel and then it goes back to fucking New York.
Yeah.
Like I want, you know, if you have these big hotels that are coming in, that's awesome.
Is there a way to like partner with locals there?
And unfortunately, like the locals that you would want to partner up are very few.
They're probably like the doctors or the dentists or the people that are like the most well-off and intellectuals of that area that you could do business with.
But like, how can you find ways where the locals are profiting off of the growth of their town or city?
Yeah.
They directly.
Cuba was like that.
Cuba, you can't, you can't have an Airbnb if you don't, if you're not from Cuba.
Yeah.
Like, and it was a thriving business because like the hotels aren't that great there.
So everybody rents Airbnbs.
100%.
But it was like, so then they find ways of, oh, let me pay this person.
And it's like, so the person is making money, but it's still the money ends up going back to somebody.
At least they're getting something.
Like, yeah, I just.
Like, even when you have a rule like that, it's still people find ways to go around it.
Because it's so easy once you have a lot of money to like, you can buy up all this land for pennies on the dollar and you can build it out.
It's great.
It really does help the community.
And those people get jobs, you know?
But how do you find a way where they're not then displaced, where they're continually profiting off of that investment in that region?
Yeah.
Because you're not going to that region unless they already built out, even if it's the shittiest roads.
Yeah.
You're going there because they're there.
Yeah.
You could go to the middle of the fucking jungle.
You're not going to the middle jungle for a reason.
Yeah.
Because there's not even that tiny little infrastructure that exists, that's what you're leeching on.
Maybe leeching is the wrong word, but they should be able to eat off of that.
But then it gets tricky when people buy up the land personally and then you can't even live in the place you're trying to work at.
So you got to ship in workers from like the other town and put them in fucking tenements just to like make the place work.
It's crazy.
Yeah, it's tricky.
But those people's lives are so much better.
Like the people who live in those towns are making so much more money.
They're able to send their kids to fucking better schools.
Like all these things also improve.
And a percentage of them are changed forever.
It went from like poverty to actual like, let's say, middle class or something upper and middle class.
So part of the town is like, this is great.
Don't stop this investment.
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Keep it fucking going.
While the other part of the town is being moved out, they're like, yo, what the fuck are you doing?