Stavros Halkias and Mark dissect his controversial philosophy on sleeping with married women, contrasting Greek leisure culture with American grind mentality while critiquing billionaire tax avoidance and Democratic leadership failures. They analyze how social media strategy revitalized his comedy career amidst streaming declines, framing his immigrant narrative as a universal story rather than ethnic stereotypes. Ultimately, the episode blends cynical political commentary with promotional tactics for his upcoming tour, asserting that success requires enjoying the process despite systemic inequalities. [Automatically generated summary]
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The Wife Trading Scheme00:14:19
I'll f your wife.
I actually have a wife though.
Oh, that's true.
What's up, everybody?
And welcome to Flagrant.
Today we have the Crown Prince of Baltimore in the building.
Give it up for stop, bro.
Thank you for coming on, man.
Appreciate you.
I'm soaked you here, man.
We were talking a lot before the pop, but I'm excited because I think that you are doing it the best right now of like the new guys that are using social media, YouTube to like push out clips and like build a stand-up career.
I think that I think you're doing it the best, man.
Thanks, man.
I appreciate it.
And thank you for having me here.
This fucking rocks.
Thank you, bro.
Before we get into it, I just want to say this is fucking insane that this is a podcast.
I feel like I'm about to be offered a million dollars for you to fuck my wife.
This feels like a layer.
Would you take the million, though?
Would I take the mill?
Probably not, honestly.
I'm sorry, dude.
I'm too much of a villager still.
First generation Greek immigrant.
I don't want anybody to fucking.
Nobody wants to fuck your wife.
I'll fuck your wife.
I actually have a wife, though.
Oh, that's true.
That was the royal wife.
Like the wiki, anyone's wife, you know?
Philosophically, I'll fuck somebody's wife, but I don't want my wife fucked.
You're fucking everybody.
That's what I'm doing.
I will.
I have fucked a couple people's wives.
It's pretty nice.
Have you really?
Poly people, though, like polyamorous people.
They bring you in.
Polynesians?
Yeah, Polynesians.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like the big ones.
Yeah, yeah.
I fucked the Rock's cousins.
Yeah, yeah.
You get Samoan vibe a little bit.
Yeah, I do.
Yeah, no, I love their vibe.
Absolutely.
Okay, okay.
They ask you, are you, is there like a little bit where you're kind of insulted?
Polly means there are people who I'm going to be.
I know you're going.
You know, that's funny.
There wasn't anything.
Explain Polly real quick.
So Polly is like an open relationship.
It's like, you know, polyamorous, basically what it means, you know?
Yeah.
There is a little bit of that.
There was one, okay, so there was a girl that I fucked.
The first time anybody, anytime I fucked anybody's girlfriend, wife, whatever.
And I'm the right guy to do it because it's like, it's fun.
You know what I mean?
I'm a good time.
You know what I mean?
You don't want to, I don't, I'm not going to fucking ruin your way.
I'm not showing up at the wedding.
I'm not protesting.
You know what I mean?
I'm like, stop.
What about what we had?
It's like, no, dude, thank you for showing me your titties.
I'm really happy.
Put me on the registry.
I'll buy you a fucking blender.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm not, I'm the guy to cheat with.
But yeah, so the first time, actually, there was a girl who, so I was chatting with her online and it was going really good.
And it's like, you know, this very early, I wasn't really popping even.
She was just like, something was, she's just like, you know, that I like, she just kind of found me.
She liked you for you.
She liked me for me.
It felt like before the video.
It was a simpler, more innocent time, you know?
Somebody with a, probably somebody with a charismatic fat father.
You know what I mean?
That's probably what it was.
But she was like, hey, I got to be honest.
We were chatting for a while, you know, sending nudes, the whole thing.
And then he's like, look, I got to be honest, I have a boyfriend, but don't worry, I'm going to ask him for an open relationship.
And then two weeks later, she was like, okay, so I asked him, he said no.
But then I asked if I could fuck you specifically, and he was like, cool with it.
And that was devastating.
This guy's like, hey, babe, like, I'm sorry.
We can't open it up.
I just, I love you too much.
I don't want to lose you.
And then she showed him a picture of me and he was like, oh, yeah, you can fuck that guy.
We'll be fine.
We'll bounce back from that fucking picture.
That's where it's kind of insulting.
It's like, wait, are you saying I can't take your wife?
Yeah, yeah.
But you know, certainly if I was thinking that way, but I just look at it more as like, hey, thanks for the pussy, man.
You know what I mean?
And the man is the girl.
Like, it's more like instead of seeing it as somebody fucking your wife when you don't have one, it's just like you just have friends that let you suck on their titties.
And that is the platonic ideal of friendship, if you ask me.
Because I don't really like to hang out with dudes that much.
Like, girls are just, you know what I mean?
Like my guys, I have my core of like my boys, yeah, you know what I mean.
And then it's like, you know, through comedy, I've met like, you know, like people that I connect with and I'll fucking chill with them.
But it's like, just say you don't like hanging with comics, bro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what you're trying to say.
No, I think, no, just watch Love on the Spectrum.
You don't need it in your life.
Yes, absolutely.
I'd like to make more eye contact than comedians afford.
No, I'm just look, I'm not making any new 30-year-old friends that don't do comedy.
You know what I mean?
Like, what, in what situation do I bump into a guy and I'm like, you're fucking chill, bro.
That was a good talk we had.
We were this against you.
Yeah, But hang out with a girl.
It's just like, I like being around, like, women are better.
They're nicer.
You know what I mean?
Like, they're just, they have higher emotional intelligence.
They smell better.
Like, everything's better.
Yeah.
And if you want to fuck them, higher emotional intelligence, you think?
Oh, absolutely.
Okay, go ahead.
They read you a little better.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like my, I'll hang out with my fucking best friends in the world, right?
Yeah.
And we haven't seen each other for months.
I've been on the road, whatever.
Yeah.
And then, like, my buddy was telling me this story where he was like, yeah, I got back.
My buddy Eldis, who's my fucking, you know, we've been friends since kindergarten.
And he would go back and his girlfriend would be like, hey, so how's Stav doing?
And he's like, pretty good, I guess.
You know what I mean?
Like, she's like, what's going on with the tour?
Like, is he too busy?
He's like, yeah, we didn't really talk about it that much.
And he's like, well, what about his brother?
I hear he's getting married.
He's like, oh, yeah, I guess he is.
Like, we're not, we're calling each other gay.
We're watching fucking John Wick.
You know what I mean?
We're getting high as shit and we're ordering $300 worth of Chinese food.
That's what we're doing.
That sounds like the perfect friendship.
That's high emotional intelligence.
But that's great.
And I got that in my life, but I want somebody to ask me how my day is going and mean it.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
Do you guys want to say it or should I just say it?
Please do.
And Eunice, can I because we're about to become best friends with you?
You ready?
I am gay.
I love the support of women.
What can I say?
I'm a homosexual.
Yeah.
And then, and so what I'm saying is when you find someone that you're cool with and you're friends with, and then she's also like, hey, like, my boyfriend's cool if I fuck my friends.
I'm like, sick.
Hold on, this has happened a lot.
Like, you've...
It is honestly happening a surprising amount.
Are you like a fetish?
Maybe, yeah, yeah.
I think so.
I think, like, there is a time.
Why are you laughing?
I've never heard a guy recall the family.
Black guys are fetishes sometimes.
Oh, yeah, I guess.
To like hurt a racist father's feelings.
Come on.
That's one of the most classic movies there is.
Once you go through all the black guys, then you get Ron Jeremy.
Yeah.
If you want Ron Jeremy, but you don't want all that cop.
You see this guy, you're like, that's going to do some damage.
Let's see what we got it about.
Order size.
When you're sending the nudes, are you like having fun with it?
I'm like, yeah, I'm having a blast.
Okay.
No, no, no.
Meaning, like, are you sending funny nudes?
Are you trying to get it?
No, see, I'm done being like, that's the other thing about, like, even when you fuck and you have to talk, it's like, I talk my entire life.
Can I just bust?
Is this okay?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is this a fucking podcast?
I don't want to fucking, you know, I saw a clip of you on Stantino's podcast, bro.
It was so funny.
And you're like, can I be honest with you?
If podcasts didn't pay me hundreds of thousands of dollars, I would never fucking do this shit.
I think nobody hates their success more than it's.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Totally.
And I think it keeps working where you keep going, fuck this.
Yeah.
And then people just keep going, no, no, no, no.
We want to.
I know, I know.
I'm nagging my audience.
You know what I mean?
That's how you fuck wives.
Yeah, yeah.
You piece of shit.
No, I don't.
That's the thing.
I fuck wives because it's like, they're past that.
They're good, right?
They don't need to be fucking negged anymore.
They just want to have a good, like, I fuck them because I'm a good time.
Like, I'm a great hang.
You know what I mean?
And it's also like, I am, like, I'm rich, but I grew up poor, so I don't spend money.
Like, I still have a roommate.
Like, because I like, he's one of my best friends, but still part of me is like, got to keep fucking.
So what I spend my money on is like, you want to come hang out with me for $300 lunch?
Yeah, but like, do you think maybe you have a roommate because you just like someone else to be there when you fuck?
Oh, when I say, yeah, Just fucking with you and a woman, that might be too weird.
Oh, interesting.
If there's a guy.
There's some masculine energy in this in the room.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I pick up his pheromones.
I'm like, yo, just call him honey or something.
I do, I do like to, I do like, it is a camaraderie thing, truly.
Like, I am like fucking, like, I've never, I don't think I want to be alone.
Oh, the wife thing.
No, no, no.
I'm not talking about roommate.
No, no, no.
See, that's the other thing.
I don't want, I'm not into the like, I'm not trying to, I don't want him there.
You know what I mean?
Like, oh, I thought you're all together.
Oh, no, no, no.
I've, like, what has he done?
Just hanging out.
I don't know who the fuck he is.
I've never met, I've never met this guy.
Oh, I thought that this is.
Or even sometimes I do, and it's like, he's cool.
And I'm like, you're fucking cool, dude.
You know what I mean?
So when you meet them, you're at like dinner, you're meeting them out to like drink, or you're meeting them at the house.
Okay, so yeah, I mean, it's just a case-by-case basis, right?
But like, usually we'll go out.
There's a few different packages.
Like, you get together.
Explain the deluxe.
The deluxe.
Okay, wow.
The deluxe.
You fuck your wife.
I use your towel.
Yeah.
You gave me my wife.
And then I.
Well, these guys aren't cucks.
These are people who are also getting pussy outside of their relationship.
And then they're like, hey, you can also fuck.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't care what you do.
So, like, the thing is, I'm like...
You think so?
Because I think I have your village mission.
Villager stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
Exactly.
I agree with you where it's like, it would be hard for me to, like, if it was the love of my life, it would be really hard for me to be like, oh, you and Mark hung out?
It was pretty.
How was his penis?
Or just hearing her out of breath?
Yes.
Like, why are you doing that?
You know what would be even worse?
Yeah, Her hair is so fucked up.
She's whistling all day.
She's in the best mood I've ever seen.
Comes home, fucking, leave it to beaver.
He's dicked down my wife so good, she's fucking making a casserole for the first time.
Yeah, honestly, all the other parts and just watching her like get red would be so weird to me.
Like I am a little bit, but like, again, like I said, if this is somebody who I like, right?
And we're just friends and we really do vibe and it's like, come over, we'll get a fucking nice dinner.
We fuck and then we just like hang out.
And then it's also like, so this has happened where it's like, I'll just like talk to them about my problems with women.
And it's like the ultimate friendship.
She's like, shit.
No, no, not only can she not just shit.
She's happy for me.
Like that's it.
That's like the best friend possible.
You know what I mean?
Because it's just, she is taking something that just a man cannot offer.
And if she's cool and she's hot and she's attracted to me, it's like, it's kind of like that, you know, I think we've all at times, it was like a little bit of a hack idea where it's like, oh, bro, if we could just all fuck each other, right?
Like, I think everybody has that joke the first, you know, in comedy where you're like, oh, wouldn't it be cool if guys could fuck?
Yeah.
If we were gay, our lives would be so easy.
It's comedy.
Like when we're six, we're like, we're going to grow up.
Yeah.
We're going to have one big house.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't think we talk about fucking at all.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's just the vibe.
So it's like, if you can then replace a guy with just a hot girl, you've done that.
You've taken what gay guys have, the one thing they have.
You miss the tribe, bro.
Huh?
You miss the tribe.
You got to have the best of both worlds.
It's both, though.
You know, you dip in and out.
But yeah, I think, honestly, it's great.
And it's like, the fucking, it's awesome.
I love the amount of hilariously undeserved pussy I've been getting just the last couple years.
It's so fun.
Has it ever got hairy, though?
Like, not the pussy, but like, yeah, hairy, hairless.
That's what I call it.
Like a relationship where, like, there's fallout, where, like, oh, like, there was a feelings thing, or like, the guy got pissed.
No, I don't think so.
I think, like, that's the other thing.
It's like, I mean, I'm like, sometimes this happens when I'm visiting a city.
That's the other nice thing.
It's like, it's also like when you're on the road, it's just like people know what's up.
You're not going to have a relationship.
It's like, it's a fun night.
You know what I mean?
And there's a little bit of that, too.
And I think, like, that's going back to the fetish thing.
I think there might be like a, I mean, there definitely is a type of person that's attracted to a fat guy that believes in himself.
That's definitely out there.
Yeah.
And especially because there seems to be like a.
What do they look like?
Huh?
What do they look like?
I mean, they are pretty hot.
I mean, it's just like, it's just like, it depends.
But is there like a specific like character trait that you have?
There's really not.
I think it's more of a psychological thing.
Really?
Yeah.
And it's also like, you know, cuts or anything like that to my head on.
Yeah, signs of trauma.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Loud noises scare them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, all the PT, they hide the PTSD pretty well as far as I can tell.
But yeah, obviously, just like I am, like, their brains aren't correct.
You know what I mean?
Like, mine isn't easy.
Like, the guy guy's like, sick, I get to fuck someone's wife.
You know what I mean?
And you just make like a that's like, I'm fucking fucked.
You make the justification afterwards.
It's the lame thing.
It's the fucked up puzzle.
It's like, yeah, like at a certain point, you're like, well, I'm never fixing this damage.
Dude, you know what I mean?
It's like, I just need to find people that we, whatever fucked us up, it's like, we just click.
You know what I mean?
That's that's what you got to do.
Once you're 30, it's like, I'll go to therapy, but let's be honest, I'm not fixing myself.
You're baked.
Yeah.
You're just going to find out why you're fucked.
Yeah, yeah.
It's just, I'm so glad we were talking before the podcast because like before the podcast, you were breaking, you're a big socialist and you were bringing down like the philosophy behind it and you were making these really convincing points.
But now I'm just like, I think you just want people to share their wives.
We need a communal wife.
For too long, the top 1% biggest cocks have got 99% of the pussy.
And it's time to redistribute.
Gaylord's crushing the pussy.
He's talking about the public school system and politicians and business.
And now I get what it really is.
It's an ethos for sure.
And everywhere.
Yeah, because you're consistent going through.
Until you get married.
Until I get married then.
And until you get married.
And I become a pussy Republican.
Yeah.
Union Politics and Turkish Roots00:09:32
Right now, right now.
You would have to do it.
Right now, if you go all-right, I think you'd have more fun.
If I went alt-right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it's easy to just do that because they don't respect what you know what I mean.
You don't have to respect them at all.
But no, the thing is, though, no one's letting you fuck.
You have to worry about getting your ass kicked if you fuck an all-right guy's wife.
But if you go, if you stay on this part of the political spectrum, it's like with Poly people, it's like you can fuck someone's wife and they'll like recommend like a steely Dan album to you afterwards.
You know what I mean?
What would you fuck her do?
Huh?
What'd you fuck her do?
When you listen to her.
Oh, I'm a no music.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sorry, sorry.
I just feel like Dan there.
Yeah, no guns in the middle.
Yeah, you know, Mark is also a very big liberal cuck.
There we go.
Yeah, No, no, Mark, Mark, big socialist.
Yeah, yeah, big socialist.
He's a big time socialist.
Love it.
Not actually.
No, no, no.
I think I would say I'm economically undecided.
Economically undecided.
Yeah, but socially liberal, economically on the fence.
Yeah, just waiting to see what kind of raise Schultz gives you.
Exactly.
That is.
Yeah, we got to see.
We might union guys and give some to you and then maybe some to the other people.
I think we're going to do that.
Just spread it around.
Why are we spreading way more fun?
Why is that hopeful to anybody?
I'm just saying.
Why are you at me spread advantages?
How about you at least?
Well, maybe I don't trust you to spread it.
And maybe we should have a governing body stop now.
That would be a little tricky.
That would be an economic.
Yeah, Do you love to come here and just you guys union?
You just turn on Schultz.
Do you want to leave our union?
Yeah, How would you unionize that?
I would be like this.
He looks like a union bullet.
I do love the aesthetics of crooked politicians.
That is kind of my whole vibe.
It's like just fucked up, you know, just like a no-show job.
You know what I mean?
Like the union delegate thing.
I don't know.
Let's see.
Let's start.
I mean, it seems like this is a pretty sick, you know.
First of all, everyone gets their own NBA jam.
It's not for the, you know, not just communal.
You get to take one home.
That sounds awesome.
You know what I mean?
And then you get to.
Yeah, Marked this day.
Yeah.
The Dave Flagrant split up.
The fucking Yoko Ono.
You guys think Akash is on vacation?
I have him kidnapped and waiting until he agrees with my demands.
You're boys with, actually, I don't know if you're boys, but I saw you roasting Hassan.
That's my guy.
So Hassan, I always hit up when something happens in the news that looks like so blatantly, how do I phrase it?
It looks like it looks too easy to make the argument for the right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I hit up Hassan.
I'm like, what am I not seeing here?
Because he'll usually have it.
And if he doesn't have anything, I'm like, okay, then we're good.
He's like my fact checker.
He's great.
But he is fucking talented.
He's the best.
Because I was watching, you know, sometimes I'll watch like some of the streams or whatever like that.
And it's a different muscle to just talk for fucking four hours.
Whatever the hell.
I saw him eating like dinner once on.
Yeah.
And I was like, there could be a break here.
It's crazy.
No, I know.
I know.
I hop on the, like those Twitch streamers are just on there for like 10 hours a day.
And it's like this constant thing.
And I mean, he does, he'll just fucking watch shit.
You know, like, you know, he'll go through like a YouTube thing or it is, it's literally educational sometimes.
But I went on a stream last time and it's like.
I found out about him because he started out kind of bashing a clip that we made knowing that we were agreeing with him.
Oh, hilarious.
It's a really funny clip because he starts out.
Oh, here's the Schultz moke.
You guys have been waiting for this.
This guy ate shit.
Mark's a smart, whatever.
And then we just start agreeing with everything.
And he's like, why don't you guys fucking tell me what the fuck is going on?
They're making good points.
He's actually pretty good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But no, I like him.
I know he's.
Yeah, the only problem.
He is Turkish, which is an issue.
But other than that, he's a great guy.
Who likes the Turks?
Not the Armenians, I'll tell you that much.
I thought they worked that whole thing out.
Like, they agreed it didn't happen.
And they met the agreement.
We'll put it under the rug.
Yeah.
It is so funny.
You don't have to say rug.
Yeah.
It is funny because it is funny because Greek people still are like, it's just like this rivalry from the 1800s.
Just like they still don't fuck with Turks.
It's sports.
We're bringing it together.
Yeah, it really is.
Like, historically, are you aware why you don't fuck with the Turks?
Yeah, I mean, the Ottoman Empire took over Greece in fucking, you know, I think it was the 1400s.
And then Greece got their independence in 1821.
But didn't the Ottoman Empire kind of like let everybody do their thing?
A little bit, depending on like, like Greece stayed Christian, like they kept their own, you know, whatever.
We, you know, Albanians went fucking Muslim or whatever.
And like certain other places.
They folded?
Yeah, they folded.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They folded.
They look back at you and they're like, fuck, we could have kept our names.
Yeah.
I think, well, I think part of it was they didn't want to pay taxes or something.
I think it was like, literally, yeah.
I think the Ottoman Empire allowed you to not if you went Muslim, it was like, all right, well, you're one of us, whatever.
Yeah.
But, you know, they, they, I, one thing I've, I, Hassan actually told me is that, which is fucking hysterical, is that Turks still to this day, you can get out of military service, but you have to prove you're gay.
And by the way, they don't count the guy who fucks as gay.
Tops is gay.
They're like real old world with it.
And you like, I was reading this article.
It's so fucking funny.
They were asking the guy because he had like a beard, and they were like, They're like, Do you ever wear women's clothing?
They were like, These motherfuckers do not understand what being gay is.
And they wanted him to send a picture of him wearing makeup and women's clothes.
That's all it is.
And he was like, That's not what being gay is.
He was like, Will you let me send a picture of me kissing a man?
And they were like, We'll accept that.
And there's like a doctor who has to look at the pictures and decide if you're gay enough not to be in the middle of the tongue.
It's so fucking sick.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is.
Fuck.
We were talking about like certain the most homophobic cultures, how they're kind of the gayest.
There's absolutely the gayest.
There's like a bit about this somewhere because the idea of fucking a man is so outrageous that you could walk down the street.
Like you could kiss, you could do whatever.
Yeah.
Because of course, none of you guys are gay.
Yeah.
Yo, literally.
I'm not joking.
In a lot of cultures, like there's so much more male affection because those cultures don't have a lot of male-to-female affection.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So they're looking for the touch.
They just want people to be more tactile.
And by the way, we're saying, like, oh, it's so foreign to them.
They're also like 100% molesting boys.
Like, they brought up.
They are getting that.
Another good point.
The Greek guy would know.
Hey, that's in the past.
Separate the artist from the artist.
Yo, have you done that?
Yeah, I'm working on a point where it's like fucking funny.
Where it's like, well, listen, if I can't listen to R. Kelly, then you can't do geometry.
Mike Langeville, Bernini.
Bernini is Italian, right?
But all these guys had every, yeah, Pythagoras, all these motherfuckers.
Like, you would teach a kid math and they suck him all.
Don't do that fucking thing.
You pronounce it right.
Sorry.
Do you know Pythagoras?
You motherfucker.
Did you just do the I didn't mean to?
I try not to.
I say gyro.
I don't go yet.
You know what I mean?
It was just so in my head.
But that's a great fucking bit.
We use not only the math, but we appreciate the art of these dudes that were like banging 100% fucking kids.
Where do we draw the line?
You could use Pythagoras' theorem to draw that line.
You could use that.
He actually, the angles were little boys assholes.
It's a cute.
You're going to be obtuse when I'm done with you.
This was like some real good nerd comedy.
Yeah, yeah.
Nerd and child rape.
You never, that's FM diagram.
The middle is not that big.
You don't see Dimitri Martin going like talking about fucking children in antiquity.
What a great idea, though.
Yeah, a certain amount of time goes.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's wild.
I mean, they would go.
I mean, and like, you know, in the Middle East, they're still doing that shit, which is fucking hilarious.
And they just don't count it.
Doesn't count.
I mean, you like, you know, you hear about like vets who would come back and be like, these warlords are fucking kids.
Yeah.
And they're like, we are not on the right side.
Like, they're just like, for multiple reasons.
Like, I mean, you know, we don't have to get into the fucking war.
You know, I don't think anyone here is like pro or war.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're not pro-war.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it is funny for so many reasons why it was a mistake.
But yeah, I mean, they love to fucking be home, be homophobe, misogynistic, and then just fuck boys.
It's a wild usually that is, that happens a lot.
So we're past it now, though.
Greeks are over it.
When did you guys stop?
Now they're just about like, I would say three years ago.
That was a point.
They wouldn't let us get the 2004 Olympics until we stopped.
Look at these five rings unless they keep answering.
No, now they're just sexually harassing women.
Oh, they're into that.
Yeah, oh, big.
Well, this is the evolution.
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That's it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
The American girls that show up?
Oh, the tourists, big time.
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Yeah, my cousin is a fucking hilarious guy.
He, so, like, there's a generation, there's a generation of like, there was a generation of people in Greece that's like the, when the financial crisis happened, it was like, if you're anywhere between like 40 and like, I don't know, in your fucking 20s now, it's like, there just were no jobs.
Like, you just didn't have shit to do.
There was nothing to do.
So my cousin was like, I think he trained as a chef, couldn't get any, like, didn't really like it, but couldn't really get any high-end like, because Greece is so tourism-based anyway.
They're like, chef is a great job.
His brother-in-law was a chef.
He was going to hook him up.
Couldn't really get any jobs, didn't like it.
And then he was like, fuck it.
And just for like eight years, he would work at a bakery sometimes when he felt like it.
And then he would just go to an island where it's all party, like just a party fucking island, sleep in a tent, bar back at a fucking metal bar and just fuck tourists for four months.
And he was like, I'm going to make money.
And he would, every time he would leave, he would have to ask his father for the boat ride back, the ticket for the boat ride back.
Like he made no money and he just lived a sick life for the funniest guy you know.
I mean, the best.
And he fucking some, he actually, it's really funny.
He got into like, then he went to acting school because he was like, well, why not?
No one's getting a job anyway.
And then he just like went, like, this is how small show business is in Greece.
He was just like open to, he just went to like an audition and there's like fucking 10 guys there.
And it was like for one of the biggest like comedy, live comedy theaters in the country.
The guy liked him and he's just like set now.
He really fucking finessed life, honestly.
He was just getting his dick sucked by 22-year-old Australians for six years, and now he's just...
He became an actor.
Yeah.
It's usually the opposite.
That's true.
He really put the work in first.
What happened with the Greek economy?
I mean, really, what happened, I mean, you know, in the crux of it, it's like they took out a loan.
It was, honestly, it was kind of like what happened with the fucking financial crisis here, the mortgage crisis here, where it was like they were giving loans that they knew people couldn't pay.
And as long as the bank didn't ask for it, it was never a big deal.
And then once the economy started faltering a little bit and they wanted Greece's money back, they're like, well, we don't have it.
And the fucking irony is they've paid.
These are loans from what, the IMF or something like that?
No, no, no.
This is like fucking like hedge funds.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, they were getting private loans from just banks?
They were getting, they got fucked by it.
They got sold out by the, like, the government made mistakes, right?
Taking these loans, like the center-right party in Greece.
And then, and then they asked for their money back.
And the irony is like, just like how debt completely fucks people in this country, we saw that in Greece where it was like writ large, where it was like they paid back the money over, like it's, it's the interest that fucked that fucks out.
So it's, it's just to keep these banks bottom lines good, an entire generation of Greek people are fucked.
And it's like, that's, you know, that's why, you know, we should burn down hedge funds and that kind of thing.
Wasn't there something like, and again, I forget exactly the article I was reading, but like 50% of people were employed by the state in some way.
There was just like a bloating.
Totally.
And listen, don't get me wrong.
Greeks love to have a good time.
Like there was a lot of fucking, they didn't pay taxes.
Like, you know, I've had people, I had people in my family who just like had two jobs that just he like, I won't say who it is, not that anyone will be able to fucking trace it, but he was like, he literally was like a carpenter for the government somehow.
And he would just go, he would work the night shift, sleep in his office, and then just wake up and go to his regular job.
And he just was like, he was just, and then sometimes he wouldn't go to his regular job.
He was just like, it was just like, it's a culture that loves to fuck around.
No one was paying taxes.
Everyone's taking naps in the middle of the day.
But you know what?
That's living, baby.
That's the fact that this is what we were talking about before the pod is that like when you've existed for thousands of years, you start to like refine your culture into things that like give you joy.
And toiling away at a factory doesn't exactly give you joy.
And I think the Greeks kind of figured it out.
The Spanish have figured it out.
All these for eight hours.
There's no Greek Gary Vs. You know what I mean?
There used to be, though.
Yeah, they built civilization and then they're like, yeah, we can take a break.
Take a break.
Yeah, yeah.
After you reel it, but you first got to build it.
Like, and that's what we're talking about in America.
Like, right now we're hustling.
Right now, the Gary Vee works here.
Like, we work here.
Like, you're hustling your fucking ass off.
And I want to talk more about like your plan and how you put out the special.
But like it works in America because everybody's here to grind.
But I do think that we'll eventually evolve culturally to a point where we are similar to Europeans that we make fun of now.
Yeah.
Well, hopefully.
I mean, I also think there's just like...
Oh, yeah, that's if you stay intact.
That's if you don't get invaded and taken over and have your culture change for you.
Like you get to be France.
You get to be Italy.
You get to be Greece where you go, you know what?
We should really focus on this cheese.
Yeah.
We're working four months out of the year.
But it's also like, and what we were talking about earlier is like those cultures all knew tyranny, right?
Like they had to get break free from like kings, like they were working forever.
And it's like, we're doing that now.
Like, what's the difference between an Amazon warehouse and a fucking fifedom?
You know what I mean?
It's like, it's like you're, okay, so you're throwing, you're like not pissing in, you're pissing in a water bottle and packing Fitbits for, you know what I mean?
For Black Black Friday.
Is that really that different than like fucking picking turnips all day?
So like milling buckwheat.
I'm going to say yes, but I don't know if it's entirely different, but I agree with your point.
But specifically the transition from tyranny to like, I'm going to grind.
Well, they had to like, what I'm saying is they had to like blood, like there was wars.
People were dyed over this shit.
Of course.
And here too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right.
But I think what happens is like immediately after there being one person in charge of everything, right?
I think once you get your freedom, you want to exercise it.
To the biggest, to like the most you possibly can.
Right, you start going, what can I do and what can my family do, because you couldn't do before?
Yeah, and I think you start thinking about self and I think in America there's this thought about like oh, it's just, we have a term, it's just business.
What does that mean?
Yeah, I could you over because it's just business.
Right right right, I could be an asshole because there's no baseline human decency.
Yeah, morality goes out the window because it's business.
Well, I also think there's like like, there's a really good branding of the American dream that just like honestly, I think doesn't exist, like I know, but I just think statistically, like you're much more you're, you're way more likely to die in the fucking uh, tax bracket, if you're not socioeconomic bracket that you were born in, than you are to to move upwards in America.
It's just true, most people die where they start and you know it's and in fact, I mean this is a long time ago.
I stopped being smart 10 years ago.
So, like I, I dropped out of college my senior year and I haven't read a book that's not like bullshit since then.
You know what I mean.
I haven't read a book.
That's not like a crime, like about the mafia.
You know what I mean.
Yeah yeah, American Dream yeah truly yeah yeah um, but it's just like you know statistically, you're just like we don't have that shot necessarily, like individuals do, but it's.
It's not like if you work hard you're not guaranteed, and I fully do believe that.
It's like you know, you give yourself a much better chance.
There you go, you give yourself a much better chance.
But it's like the idea that, like you know the, like the, the working class votes against their um, you know their interests because they're like, well, when i'm a billionaire and it's like buddy, it ain't happening.
You might, you might make 70 grand instead of 40 yeah, but like you're, the difference between you and a billionaire is like the difference between you know, like it's fucking 100.
Now, remove yourself from it a little bit.
You're creating a, an idea that people should live through.
You're creating like culture, you're creating an ethos and you want people to operate a certain way in society.
We need kind of rules, but we also need beliefs right yeah, and if religion isn't the motivating force in society and unfortunately, maybe money is yeah yeah yeah, in order for people to like go work and not just steal from their neighbor.
Don't they kind of have to believe that one day, if they do work hard, that they could potentially get this thing?
Isn't that better than them believing, hey, you got no shot, because if I got no shot right, i'm gonna shoot somebody.
Right, I got no shot, like right, and don't get me wrong.
It benefits those billionaire dudes you're talking about, because it's like, as long as they can keep going.
Hey, be hopeful.
Right, you could be me, i'm not gonna, i'm not gonna murder you.
Right right right, right.
But once, once you tell me there's no chance, I mean, Jeff Bezos can't be on a boat right, you're telling all of us, 300 million people, we can't.
Yeah, and he has it.
And Elon's not selling me electric cars, cars.
But see, I'm with you.
But what we're talking about then, is just like, is what we're selling right?
Because in my opinion, that's what's going on.
You know what I mean for the vast majority, yeah, I get, I guess you're right.
I guess it's like, let's say, we all know that.
Yeah, what would we still tell people that does?
Would we rather tell them this, that gets them from 40 grand to 70 grand, even if it's a little bit of a lie, or would we rather tell them the opposite, which makes them stay at 40 and maybe even goes below like yeah, I guess.
I guess to me it's an idea of, like we don't have to tell them shit, the world is what we have the most resources in the history of mankind.
Let like, let people go to school for free.
Let people fucking go to the doctor.
Like, if you get cancer you know I get you shouldn't have to fucking mortgage your, you know, put a second mortgage on your house.
If like, somebody gets sick in your family, let people go to the doctor.
Give people child care, cover their basics.
And then it's like, you know, go get a fucking part-time job and you're good, you know, I mean, you have the basics covered.
Yeah, and it's like because there is more like what we were talking about, there's more to life than this pursuit of fucking money where it's like there's the baseline humanity shit where I agree with, have a good ass time.
There is that's that's, and let's get European with it.
Like, go drink coffee with your boys for four hours, but that's not.
Everybody has the privilege of growing up in an ancient city.
Yeah yeah, it's ancient culture.
Like that's also a privilege.
Like you're growing up and there's a fucking, there's a cheese shop down the block that makes cheese.
Yeah, they've been doing that for thousands of years.
And like you're like oh, I like that cheese in St. Louis.
Yeah, you grew up in the hood and St. Louis is like what is the thing you're enjoying on a Sunday right right, right right.
Like you're not looking at this beautiful bridge that was built, but that's fucking 12th century.
I'm with you, I see what you're saying, but I also think, like the fact that there is that, the fact that that exists in St. Louis, is the failures of what this country was 100 years ago.
Or, like you know, you think we should have built those things already.
What I'm saying is like yeah yeah, like we're like the reason all that inequality exists is because, like you know, look at what happened with the GI Bill and it's like white people got it, black people didn't.
Look what happened to the redlining GI Bill after like, World War II, where you know what I mean it's like.
Or redlining, where it's like yeah yeah, we had, like there's so much hopelessness because of because, just the way our cult society was, like the architecture and our structure was inequality.
You know what I mean.
It's like let's, let's get to a baseline, and not equality, because equality it's like equity is what you want.
Where it's like everyone has a fucking, we're gonna.
Everybody has a chance, everyone has a real this, a fair shot at it, right?
I think that's where a lot of the like, these ideas get misconstrued, is it?
I think you're just going, hey, can't we make it so everyone has a chance.
And a lot of people, just a lot of people, ignore the fact that there is that inequity and some people don't even have a chance.
Exactly like, if everybody had a chance and there were some people that were lazier, you would just go, yeah, that motherfucking lazy piece of shit.
You know, you know how many people like I I, you know, I grew up in Baltimore, in Greek Town.
It's like some of those motherfuckers aren't getting out of Greek Town.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
You know how many fucking failed djs I know.
You know how many fucking promoters like, yeah, what i'm saying is that guy should be able to be a fucking loser.
Yeah, and if he gets fucking uh melanoma, he can get it.
Looked at, that's all i'm saying.
And if you're one of the the, the work your ass off, grind dudes, Oh, then you actually want complete equity because it proves that you're the 100%.
Yeah.
If you're worried about an equal playing ground, you're worried that you might have not done it by yourself, which nobody does it by themselves.
I hate that idea.
It's a popular.
Everybody needs luck.
Everybody got to get luck.
Yeah.
Team, et cetera.
But like, yeah, if you're one of these guys who's like, I grind and I do it, just level the playing field.
Totally.
And that's the thing.
It's like you'll have a fucking, then you can, and then it'll be easier to actually try.
Like, you know, I got lucky in a lot of ways where it's like, I was healthy when I was doing comedy.
Like I could afford to like, you know, I lived in a fucking windowless room for four, you know, 400 bucks and like nothing bad happened to me.
Nothing bad happened to my family.
And it's like, you know, and I was able to eek by, but it's like, what if something didn't happen?
You know what I mean?
What if I fucking, my buddy fucking sprained his ACL and just had to move out of New York because he couldn't get up and down the fucking stairs.
And it's something that fucking simple.
And it's like, and then he's set back for like, you know, that's three years he's got to make up.
Whereas like if you're, if you were rich and that happened to you, it's like you go to the doctor immediately.
You fuck it, you know what I mean?
Like you probably live in a building with an elevator.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's like, it's such simple shit that we're talking about.
And it's like, yeah, that's the thing.
We're going to have losers.
Like most people, you know what I mean?
Like that's how the bell curve works in people.
You're basically like, I want to call them losers, but I'm not sure yet.
Political Scams and Billionaires00:08:45
Yeah.
I love shitting on people.
I want to shit on more.
I just want the ability to shit on them.
You know what I mean?
Where it's like, it's like, let them have a comfortable life.
It's like, that's the thing that's going to be.
It's like why we can shit on athletes.
Yeah.
Because we know.
These are the rules.
Everybody's playing by these same rules.
And you stunk today.
You were, yeah, you were dog shit.
And it's fun to be able to say that.
It's like, your life is so much better than mine.
You're taken care of.
I'm not really, you know, fucking with you.
And then what it really comes down to is that like what we're talking about, and this is maybe where we differ, where it's like, I do think we should just tax these fucking ultra billionaires because these people have a fucking disease.
Is anybody against that though?
That's what I don't understand.
I think they are.
Like people are against taxing them.
I just feel like people don't understand how they avoid taxation.
Yeah.
And if they did it, because it's kind of complex.
Super complex.
Yeah.
But if they did understand it, I think that they'd be at their home.
People that get that.
That's what I'm saying.
If you get kickbacks from billionaires, then yeah, you are against it.
Oh, yeah.
The people that are benefiting off of it getting paid to shut the fuck up.
But the average person that's like voting against their interest, what you're saying, doesn't realize that these like billionaires, they don't pay themselves a salary.
They take loans against their stock.
They find ways to not.
Of course, of course.
And if they knew that, they'd be like, hold on, I'm getting taxed on 40 grand and this motherfucker is not gay.
Well, it's that one of my favorite videos when Bernie went on Fox News and all the fucking bullshit centrist Democrats were like, you shouldn't do that.
That's the enemy.
And it's like, he's up there at Fox News and within two questions, people are applauding.
Because he's just like, these fucking, these are like, oh, we do need health care.
Like, I have been, my employer has fucked my ass.
You know what I mean?
And it's like, like, and it's, it's just, that's what I mean.
It's like, I don't, I'm not fucking smart.
I'm not, I don't even consider myself a political guy.
I just think like these ideas are so simple.
It's very sharp.
I think you're underselling yourself.
You know what I'm saying?
No, it's like, I'm not a fucking academic by the way.
But you went to school for, you were telling me, like, for public policy.
Yeah.
You're also not bullshitting.
Like, the things you're saying, you know what you're talking about.
Yeah.
But I dropped out and I've, most of my brain has gone to talking about my penis.
I'm not very good at talking about my penis.
It is a public policy.
Absolutely.
It's a public good.
Yeah.
Gals, if you're out there, this is like a part.
I wonder what would have happened if they, I mean, like the Democratic establishment, like allowed Bernie to whimp.
I really wonder if Trump would have beaten Bernie.
It would have been an awesome.
I think he would have.
I think Bernie would have won.
Because I don't know what Trump could bully Bernie about.
You couldn't because he's not, there is nothing.
He just believes like his, his beliefs are not.
That's the what, that's what I admire about the guy more than anything is like, you know, I had kind of checked out of politics, honestly.
I was like very disillusioned with Obama, a horrific president.
And when you look at what he actually did, and it was like, and obviously I was like, I was 18 now.
He was told him for it, baby.
He was.
He was.
I mean, like, look what happened.
He got worked by the Republicans.
Okay.
Like, Obamacare sucked dick.
Is anybody happy with Obamacare?
There was no.
Al?
I think some people are.
It's better than not having.
But it was a Republican policy.
Mitt Romney created it.
That was his idea.
He's barely a Republican, though.
Yeah, yeah.
But you know what?
It was a mark.
No Republican creates health care for the state.
Huh?
Well, that was his big idea.
It was Massachusetts or whatever it was.
It was the mask thing.
But the whole idea was he wasn't like where we need the fucking, like single payer is so simple because it's like, cut out these fucking leech.
Oh, he was too pussy to go for a small.
But he didn't even have like a public option.
So essentially what Obamacare was, was like, hey, the way we're going to solve this is by everybody buying private health insurance.
And it's like, that didn't fix anything.
You know what I mean?
Like, yeah, more people are covered.
But it's like, by the end of it, I had Obamacare.
It was fucking expensive as shit.
And it didn't cover dog shit.
You know what I mean?
It's like, it's like the whole thing is a fucking scam.
And he got, you know, he got worked by the Republicans, even though he had like a fucking super, super majority, whatever.
And then it's like, you look at his foreign policy.
It's like, he's bombing fucking.
You guys both hate weddings a lot.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
But he listens to Outcast, dude.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
And it's like iPod's awesome.
And it's like, and listen, I fucking love the guy.
I was like, I kept waiting.
I was like, here it comes.
He's going to do something.
He's a lot of this stuff.
Yeah, but I think you're so engaged.
He's got a second term.
He's getting ass.
He just needs to get that second.
And then it's like, bro, the second he's out of office, he's hang gliding with a fucking billionaire.
He's with Richard Branson.
Who else is he going to hang with?
That's where I have that.
It's like, he's just going to hang with his friends in Hawaii though.
Don't take the pictures.
Have the decency to hide to him.
Sunday on the surfboard.
Yeah, you took it, asshole.
He thought that was a good picture.
Yeah, yeah.
There's no Paparosi in the ocean.
Yeah.
He could have taken it.
It's you and your security guards and your girl.
Well, that's the other thing.
Another thing I talk about all the time is that I don't respect any billionaires whose name I know.
You know what I mean?
Because you want motherfuckers to know.
Be on an island.
But enjoy the money.
But that's what I'm saying.
It's not about that.
It's about feeling like you're the fucking man.
They want to be, you know what I mean?
100%.
I also do think that there are certain people whose company they've become the mascot of.
Sure.
So like for their company's success, they also, like, Elon doesn't have to do any fucking advertising on NBC because he's tweeting and it does more effective.
So he's like, okay, this is cheaper.
Me being the mascot is cheaper.
He also probably.
There's a psychology to that, right?
Yeah, exactly.
100%.
But yeah, that's the tricky thing about, I don't know, like I try to like judge like a president, I guess, within like the expectation I have for them.
Like I don't really expect any of them to do anything.
That is part of his problem is that he set the bar so high for what you were expecting.
It's like, it's like the opportunity.
He was convincing with the spiel.
Whereas like everyone else, I'm like, I don't, I never thought Biden would do anything.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like, I don't know.
Yeah, dude, Biden is hilarious because it's like his whole career is so funny because it's like, he's the senator from the shittiest state, Delaware, who gives a fuck about Delaware.
And then it's like, and then it's like, he's, he's the like, he goes to bat for the crime bill.
Like, he's just like, he's calling black teenagers super predators.
And then like when Obama, when they need someone that they're like, hey, Obama, we need a running mate where like racist white people will be kind of cool.
He's like, Joe.
And he got caught plagiarizing JFK speeches like four times.
Like it's like, he didn't stop once.
It kept happening and he kept doing it like more and more into the future where it's even easier to detect.
And then Hillary Clinton is so bad at running for president that the Democrats are just like, all right, Joe, you get to be president now.
It's like, they looked around.
They were like, Bernie's got real support.
And that's, okay, that's where the Obama point finishes, where it's like, he clearly is the one who called all those fucking people.
Like, I think Bernie would have won if Budding did.
You think it was Obama?
I think it was the fucking.
I mean, that's who is the, like, I think whoever, like, that's who they, that's who they called on to make the call is Obama.
You know what I mean?
It's like.
I can see that.
Where it's like, he's the guy who's like, guys, get him.
Because like, he didn't endorse Biden.
Obama stayed out of it.
And then when it became clear that after South Carolina, when fucking Biden won, and like, I mean, right, February 2020 was like so hysterical because you felt like I did anyway.
I was like, is Bernie gonna fucking win?
Because he was up.
There's no pandemic.
You know what I mean?
Like shit's going so good.
And then like, it's March and it's like, wait, what the fuck just Joe Biden?
Like, I never thought Biden was, I was like, this is hilarious.
Biden's fucking senile ass is running.
And then it was like, you know, all the other ones, like, they ate themselves.
Buttigig's fake Obama ass.
And just like, you know, who else was it?
Liz Warren.
Where did Buttigig even come from?
Dude, he was the mayor of.
No, no, I mean, is he CIA?
I don't know.
He was in the military.
He was like, he's just one of those old school.
Like, he is, think about the SGA president at your high school.
He's the purest, most distilled version of that, where he's somebody who's wanted to be president since he was fucking five years old.
He's checked every box.
He worked.
He literally went to the army so that he could campaign on being in the army.
He's not a guy who, does that look like a, you know what I mean?
Like, and I wouldn't be surprised if he had some kind of like, you know, if it was a little, if a little CIA shit was going on, because he literally was the fucking, he was the mayor of a college town.
Explain Notre Dame.
What CIA shit.
Like, okay, like, like, George.
I don't think the average person understands like the governmental influence with certain agencies.
Well, if you look at like George, the dad, George H.W. Bush, straight up in the CIA.
Just like.
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Before he's vice president, he's like, he's in the army and he's like, you know, and obviously that family is so like storied, which is like, you know, his wealthy family.
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And then it's just like, you know, I think he was, I think he's given some kind of title, but it's like you look at his work.
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Decisions, Beeps, and Protests00:09:07
I don't know.
I read this fucking...
Well, I told you, I stopped being smart 10 years ago.
I read that book.
Fuck.
Confessions of an economic hitman.
No, no, no.
It was like...
He's kind of a son of a bitch, though.
Who's John Perkins?
Yeah, it's like you do it for years and then profit off of like destroying these companies through these like massive, like debt cycles that they put them in, and then you write the book about how it's fucked up to do it yeah, yeah.
So you make money doing it right right, and then you make money saying how fucked up, also in the book.
Also in the book he's making him sound like James Bond, like himself.
Like in the book he's like, so I was a young intern and uh older uh, older executive comes into my office and grabs my knee and says I need you to make love to me or some shit like that.
Well, it's just like yeah, but it's like.
You know, the CIA obviously has has like a history of like going and like destabilizing you know uh, third world countries and all that kind of shit.
They did it.
You know the Cold War that happens all the time.
Iran, you look at Iran where it was like they had a democratically elected, uh the source, like social Democrat who wanted to nationalize oil, fucking Britain that owned it, America that was getting like they didn't want that shit.
So it's like they literally just fucking overthrow the guy.
And Greece was the same way, where it's like we had a military uh, a military junta in like 67 to 74, and it was only because we had a social democrat and they were just like kind of nervous.
He didn't really even do shit yet, but they were worried that the military just what basically what happened is the military was like, we don't like this guy, we're gonna fucking just take over, and America was just like all right.
And then, and years later, Later, they're like, so what if it was a communist junta?
And they're like, oh, we would have been in there in maybe 30 seconds.
So it's just like, and so if you get those, like, look, I don't know the fucking, the exact concept of an independent country is a lot more fragile than people think.
Totally.
It's like, you think that you're Venezuelan, you get to make all your own decisions.
And you think that you're like Nicaragua, you get to make all your own decisions.
You really get to make the decisions that the biggest country, most powerful country near you wants you to make.
Yeah, you have to get in where you fit in in the whole system where it's like.
Isn't that kind of wild to think about?
Yeah.
Like America is really the entire western part of the globe.
Yeah.
Because every other country, maybe Brazil has enough clout to kind of do some shit, but they can't go too far.
I would imagine.
Like they can't just go straight up, yo, we want China in here, do whatever you want.
Right, right, right.
Because anytime there is that influence from another superpower, all of a sudden, like, oh, that's weird.
That president was a bad guy.
Yeah, yeah.
Right?
Like, isn't every single time a left-leaning, like, you know, someone else?
Exactly.
Venezuela, anything in the, it's like, oh, yeah, it's like.
It's not even his leanings.
It's who he's, like, who his cohorts are.
It's like, it's like, oh, Russia's getting in here.
Oh, China's getting.
We just go, well, it's going to be uncomfortable for you.
Yeah, Venezuela is hilarious because it's like he just died of a very rare cancer.
You know what I mean?
It's like, calling China.
Yeah, the CIA has a cancer gun, bro.
You know what I mean?
Like, they do.
They have a heart attack gun.
They have a cancer gun.
No, the heart attack gun is crazy.
That's a real thing.
Yeah.
Or like they apply.
I saw this on like a fucking meme, so I don't know.
This is on the iPhone.
This is completely epic.
But like, you basically, it's like shellfish poison.
No, this is our conspiracy lightning.
Oh, I love it.
They take like shellfish poison or some shit and they put it on like basically inside a projectile that they shoot and then it like enters in their body and gives them a heart attack within like 30 minutes or so.
Yeah, I'm sure they got fucking ways to do like so many.
I mean, they're definitely killing motherfuckers on the sneak left and right for sure, you know?
But, you know, I don't fuck, like, I'm too dumb to remember the exact ways that fucking George H.W. Bush, but like if you look it up and you look up his like career gaps and then when he gets to be vice president influence.
Yeah, 100%.
And you look at like his, and then it's just like you look at that shit and you're like, man, we don't have fucking control of anything.
You know what I mean?
Where it's like, do we want it?
This is the tough question for a lot of us, right?
Because it's easy for us to, you know, sit down.
We do this every single day on the podcast, sit down, criticize people's decisions, et cetera.
But like, one, do we want to be making the decisions like and choosing the course of American history?
And two, do we want to flip that every four years?
Or do we like knowing that there's some other people really making the big decisions?
And every four years, we kind of get to put someone over there who gives us some hope or we hate.
Right.
Like, is that easier for us to do that?
Is it easier to watch the theater?
Yeah.
See, see, that's that to me is even that line of thinking is like, man, they got us.
You know what I mean?
Well, no, but maybe.
But like, I absolutely think, like, is it going to be easier?
No.
But it's like, even you look at like, like, even you take away what I say, people vote against their interests, but it's like, you just see that people, like, for example, if the abortion ban comes into play, which it seems like nobody wants that.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't think that's coming to play, dog.
I think it will at the end of their session, but it's like, it's just like so much, and because of the way shit is gerrymandered and because of the way, like, where you look at what most people in America actually want, it doesn't, it doesn't happen.
So we have this horrible, like, worst of both worlds where it's like, it's like, well, you voted for it.
It's like, not really.
Like, it's not really what people wanted.
And I just think ultimately to be like, do we really want to make these decisions is like one step away from being like, we should have a king.
You know what I mean?
It's like, I don't think I just can't philosophically, you know, I know you, I know it's hard for you to philosophically get there.
Yeah.
But what I'm saying is, I'm not asking you to decide for you.
Right.
I'm asking what you think the majority of people, if they were honest with themselves, would say.
Like if they were truly like the way that we just ignored the whole Epstein shit, we made cute little t-shirts, but we didn't really demand anything.
Yeah, yeah.
Right?
We know who was on the flights.
Of course.
We didn't demand shit.
I know.
So fresh hours too good to like we can say how we want something different, but at the end of the day, we're just like, yeah, like we sit here, we complain, et cetera.
And then we don't.
We make jokes about it because we acknowledge that we're not actually trying to change the fucking world.
Like we'll be hypocrites and I don't want a real job.
I want to be able to get my dick sucks.
I want facts.
But at the end of the day, it's like our behavior shows we see the fucked up shit happen.
Yeah.
And we go naughty.
Right.
But as long as life is pretty good, sure.
If life gets shitty, that's why I'm interested.
What happens with like a recession?
When life gets like really difficult, really fucked up.
You don't think that we're close, though?
No, it's happening.
It's like, look at the infrastructure's crumbling.
Like, that's the thing.
It's like they don't even have the decency to just give us health care.
But dude.
To give us roads.
You know what I mean?
That's what happens.
It's like when greedy they've gotten.
But they always paid a price for that.
Yeah.
When the rich get too greedy, right?
And the small person has nothing except rebellion.
Yeah.
That's when the pitchforks come out.
So it's like they're kind of pushing it.
And you see these American cities that I'm not saying they were at once like the fucking flagship city in America, but like you see these places and you're looking and you're like, how the fuck is this America?
Right.
In 2022, this is unbelievable.
You're on the road.
The rich have insulated themselves and protected themselves so much where it's like weeks can't do shit.
Like we don't even know.
We're one, two.
How can we affect them?
Yeah, Elon Musk is like, I don't have a house.
We're showing up to your house.
I'm homeless.
No, I'm just saying, like, you can only push a group of people so far.
And I think that they've kept us comfortable and distracted enough.
And that is smart.
But maybe with the recession, it gets to a point where you do see.
I mean, you even saw it during the fucking pandemic when everybody's quarantined and we actually had to sit down for a second and realize what was going on.
We're like, well, I'd like to protest.
I don't care.
Black, okay, I'm down with that.
Asian people, let's protest.
It was like, I'm angry, let's go.
Then shit opened up and we're like, okay, we don't even really protest that much.
They just got us mad at each other, though.
100%.
I don't think we're ever going to look up.
We're just going to.
Yeah, what gets us to look up?
Yeah.
That's the question.
Yeah, because it's so cultural.
You need to fuck their wives.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I will.
Dude, you really need what we need is if you listen, if you get terminal cancer, leave it all out.
I'm sorry.
This is exactly how that's going to play.
If you get terminal cancer, yeah, beep, beep, beep.
You know what has to be done.
Beep, beep, beep, beep.
Cross-eyed motherfucker.
But yeah, I don't know.
Netflix, Stand-Up, and Podcasts00:13:00
Dude, that's the thing.
It's just like, I don't.
And I don't have, obviously, I don't have any fucking.
I'm a fucking, I don't have any answers, but it is interesting to just like be like, damn, it's just like, can we get a little?
Can it be a little better?
Well, it's better for you.
It's better for me.
You've been cooking.
I have.
I was saying this in the beginning, but I remember bumping into you at the Fat Black Pussy Camp.
Yes.
I think.
And I think you were like upstairs.
And I was like, hey, man, you've been killing it.
I've been seeing your stuff pop up on my feed.
And that's usually kind of how I get a bearing, right?
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, who's popping up on my feed that I haven't even been searching for?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And your stuff started popping up.
And then I was seeing a lot of stuff on Instagram.
And like, it seemed like you had, you were very methodical about the release.
You have a special out right now.
I have a special out right now called You Should A Somewhere.
Crushing it.
We were talking about fucking people's wives and then citing revolution.
I forgot to plug my special.
But yeah, live at the lodge room right now.
Live at the lodge.
Live at the lodge room.
Lodge room.
And it's on YouTube on my YouTube channel.
Stavros Hulkiest.
Yep.
And it's crushing.
Yeah, we got 1.5 mil in a week.
So that feels good.
This is great, right?
Yeah.
Thank you, man.
This is not, hey, I'm going to throw up a special because I think that that's how it works.
You were methodical about this shit.
Yeah, I mean, it was the kind of thing where you're just like, well, what the fuck?
Like, because I, you know, I love stand-up comedy.
It's the thing that like I've dedicated my life to, as dumb as that is.
And it's like, we really are kind of like, you know, it's hard to like get anyone to care about stand-up comedy on its own, right?
And I was lucky enough to have a fucking, like, you know, my podcast popped and I was doing a couple, you know, and I was just like, had a little fan base there.
And I had, you know, my socials, whatever.
But I was just like, I need people to pay attention to my stand-up.
And also, people just didn't know that I was good at stand-up.
Like, that's the funny thing is when you.
People know you from a podcast.
People know me from a podcast.
You do stand-up and you kill.
So you start thinking, oh, they know I do stand-up.
I know I'm killing.
They have no fucking clue.
And no idea.
You show them.
And that's the thing.
I would do it on the road.
And it's like, that was fun.
And people would be like, whoa, like they'd be like, surprise.
Because people will just come to see a guy they know.
You know what I mean?
Like, a lot of times it's a meet and greet.
Yeah, truly.
And, you know, some people make a good living doing that.
You know what I mean?
They get one round.
Yeah, And it does diminish every talent.
If they're not good.
And if they're good, people start telling their friends.
Yeah.
And then you're fucking.
So, and it was just the kind of thing where I was just like, like, I need to get fucking traction going.
And I spent, I made a conscious decision that this year was going to be the year that I got my stand-up out there.
And it kind of helped the algorithms all kind of pushed me a certain way because it was like, you know, no one gave a fuck about still images.
Everyone wanted fucking reels.
They wanted TikToks.
They wanted that shit.
It's like, I'm not learning how to be good at another social platform.
You know what I mean?
Like that, I'm 33.
So it's like, but I saw that stand-up played really well, right?
And I started, I kind of reverse engineered it where it was like, what's fucking working?
And it was like, honestly, I told you at the Fat Black where I was like, you were a blueprint.
You know what I mean?
Where it's like, where it was just like, I saw, and very early on, where it was just like, you know, and I also, to be fair, I did, I had that little purist part of me that was just like, this isn't how the fucking, this art form shouldn't be.
You know what I mean?
Where it's just like...
Sound like a tyrant.
No, I'm a comedy Republican.
I am 100% a comedy Republican.
Work your way up.
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
You don't get anything handed to you.
Be in the wilderness for 10 years.
Learn how to get good.
So I did have to fight that, but I just saw it.
And I was preparing for a special.
So I was taping every single show I did because I was just like, I want to know what I'm doing.
I wanted to watch myself.
And I was like, you know what?
Like, maybe there will be, maybe there'll be some bits I don't use.
And I wasn't even really thinking about the crowd work because that was just kind of something I did for fun.
Yeah.
And then I went, I taped a whole year's worth of shows and I had them.
And I was just like, well, I need to build up my YouTube channel before they drop.
Right.
Because I had 25,000 subscribers, which is not bad, but it's, you know, not the kind of thing that gets you a million views.
And I was just like, all right, well, let me just try and post some clips.
And but I was like, it's so funny because the crowd work was an accident because I was just like, well, before I have time to go through and decide what I'm going to cut out of my special, I'll just post a couple of crowd work things here and there.
And they just fucking pop.
And I was just like, well, I have a ton of this.
I just kind of did it, you know, because it's like, I think that's.
I think it's a good mix.
You had like a good mix of crowd working.
You had bits and you put it out and it was methodical and it was for maybe how long before you dropped I.
So I did.
I started in February and I dropped in June, so it was four months, and I mean this is and you create some momentum, you create some curiosity, not only create new fans, but they're you're creating these like portals of entry for you on YouTube, and I did everything.
I did TikTok YouTube, Instagram and then when you do, you know a stream with Hassan and it goes up on YouTube.
All those people that watch that get recommended a clip and they're like, oh fuck, I really love this guy's stamp.
So everything else that you do, online feeds yeah, what you created and that was the idea.
That was like let's, like let's, and it was funny because it was like I kind of saw stand-up and I was like, let me just establish myself as stand-up.
But it really is a separate thing where it's like I kind of established myself as like a crowd work comic which, like I didn't, I never like.
I just I've always wanted to be like Bird talked about this, where he was like, every special I wanted to add, he wanted to add a new thing.
Yeah, and I kind of think of, like what's the point of comedy if you're not?
You want to be a five tool comic right, where you do everything, add everything.
Storytelling, like I was, I started setup punch and then it's like I did a little crowd work to get my because I was nervous.
I used to be nervous on stage.
I was like let's just try it yeah, and then storytelling and then honestly, podcasting has become one of the one of the tools.
You know what I mean?
Anybody can do it.
Yeah, not everybody can.
This is different.
There are comics that we think are absolutely amazing on stage.
Yeah gee, but this is very hard for them.
Totally like just riffing with somebody yeah, you know, getting on a funny tangent, totally eye contact one of the tools actually.
Yeah, one of the first ones, but it's important and so yeah dude, and it was just the kind of thing where I was lucky because I established myself as like people knew me from the podcast and it was I was pretty funny online, but it wasn't something I cared about yeah, and then it was like the crowd work kind of popped and then, and then the special was like that was cool too, because it was like people like well, he's really good at crowdwork and they just assume like oh, he's on a podcast, he knows how to riff, and then it was cool.
It was actually really gratifying to be like there's an hour of jokes you're about to watch that some of you don't even think i'm capable of.
So it was great man, and it was just like it worked.
It worked better than I thought.
I mean, the Youtube shit popped off in a way that I was like truly not imagining, like I I went from 25 000 to like I think right now I have 325 000.
You know what I mean.
Where it's just like.
I was like what the fuck?
And so, but but it was cool because it was like and i've kind of thought about it where it's like I did have that purest thing.
But I also think the way we record stand-up in general is fake.
Like a special is not being in a room and what's special what, like?
What is awesome about comedy and stand-up is that it is the most like.
The context changes every night and the the show is the relationship with the crowd.
Yeah, what is the purest thing that you're getting into?
Like well, I was just saying like I wanted to release a well thought out hour.
Nobody saw any of the bits and it all works together and all and it's like nobody's, it's just like it'll speak for itself.
But a, that's not how it works.
Right, that's old-fashioned, that's stupid to think that way.
Yeah and b, it's like I actually have found that it's like, well, if what's special about stand-up is that you forge a, a like unique relationship with every crowd and there are moments that will never happen again, that happen in that crowd, and if you figure out a way to do to, you know it does you still don't get like i'm.
You know it too.
It's like so many of your clips are like these awesome organic moments and it comes across, but it does, it doesn't feel as good as it feels in that room.
You get 80, you get 85 and you get the point across as good or even better than some like recorded stand-up, yeah.
So it's like I actually found like it was.
It was like actually, I was like, oh, this is actually like I am showing some like really fun moments and the other thing is it made me a better comic because I was really in the moment.
It's really easy.
So the first half of the tour I was just it's who you are yes, who.
That is your Reaction.
If you don't have that in you, if you don't have the pure, like funny in you, yeah, and some people don't have it, and that's fine, and they can be very good comics, totally.
Totally, totally.
But if you don't have that pure funny, then you're not going to have that instinct in the moment to do that thing that's the funniest thing to do in the moment.
And I think that's why it like penetrates to people.
I think, yeah, for sure.
You know, like I, I think I made a similar boat where like a lot of people know the crowd work stuff for, I mean, that was an idea to do the crowd work special when we did it from Alex on our way down in a train to DC.
He goes, you want to just like tape it and you just do the crowd work and then like we'll just put it out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Even before that, I had really these two things were just bits.
Yeah.
Like I love, I love bits.
Yeah.
And I still do love it.
Totally, of course.
And it's like, and then when I put out the special, the ideally of like refusing these things, but for me, like, I just love the most like authentic connection.
And when that connection is real, when we're doing bits, don't get me wrong, like we're pretending.
We're pretending in the bit.
And you can tap into something through the bit.
That's what you can.
It's like you tap into the emotion.
And for me, when I'm getting a reaction from them, that's where I can tap in and I can like feel what I felt when I was originally telling that story and doing that bit.
Totally.
And then you create this thing that you know isn't real.
Yeah.
But feels fucking real.
It feels real for sure.
So it's like, yeah, getting that in a crowd work moment or getting that in a bit moment where, dude, I think there's going to be a point in my career where I'm like, what if I just did like a one-liner special?
Yeah, absolutely.
I haven't worked on one-liners.
I admire people who are really good at them.
Do an act out special.
Just stoolwork.
Right?
Like, I don't know.
I just, I'm like, yeah, I don't think that we should be so rigid with what this totally.
And now that we have the freedom, we had to be rigid before because HBO wasn't paying for some, like, just you to do something random.
Yeah.
They're like, hey, do the thing that works.
Now that we're putting it out, it's whatever the fuck we want it to be.
And there's so much.
And like, I do, like, I want to do a crowdwork special.
And I'm, that's the next, like, that's the next big project.
And I want to like think about the way to do it.
That's like, you know, you always shoot it.
Exactly.
You always want to be the environment.
Yeah, push it.
Push it.
You always want to be pushed.
And that's what I try to do with my special where it's like, there were some great YouTube specials.
There's some great hours out there.
But I was like, I want this.
I just, you have to take everything has to go to the next level or you're not going to stand out.
So that's what I tried to do.
I also think it's funny when people call them YouTube specials.
Like, soon there will be no other place but YouTube for a special.
It is really funny that like by accident, like Netflix, HBO, all these like streamers have pushed like some of the best comedy onto fucking YouTube.
Their biggest competitor.
It's the best.
And it was just, it was a real, I do think it's, it will be a like tactical error on their part.
It's huge.
You know, because it's like, but it's like people watch you.
For me, it was almost like I tell them every time I'm on the phone, I'm like, if you just paid me, you'd have a job in the future.
Yeah.
But you fucked up.
I said it to you.
I go, if you paid me, you would still be working.
But you didn't.
I know.
So it is what it is.
And like, I'd like that it can just get out there.
Like, again, for me, the biggest thing about I just wanted people.
All we care about.
And Netflix had it.
Netflix thought that like, I think a lot of these networks thought that like we were doing it because it was really important that there was like an N that popped up before we started talking.
You just had the people.
The second you don't have the people, it's like loyalty.
This is kind of fucked up to say, but it's true.
It's like loyalty to a comedy club.
It's like, we all love the club that's full.
If there's two people in the audience, we're going to see how many people love that fucking club every time.
Like we love a nice full one.
So the same thing, once you lost the people, like there are people that are putting Netflix specials out, nobody's watching.
Of course.
Yeah.
It's like, wouldn't you rather everybody see that?
They're putting Netflix specials out.
You're putting yours out and they're seeing that number and they're going, fuck.
And when you do a new tour, they're going to see where you're performing and they're going to go, I'm never doing that.
Was it worth the hundred grand?
Yeah, yeah, whatever it is.
And now they're low, now they can't afford, you know, because stocks are low.
Now they can't afford the big fucking numbers.
Yeah.
So now they're not paying you the big shit.
Yeah, but they're also not finding the next generation that might have loyalty to them.
If, you know, if like six months ago, someone gave me a fucking huge, you know, I record this by myself.
I didn't want to fucking pay $40,000.
You know what I mean?
Like, I would have loved for someone to do it.
You're a comedy Republican, bro.
I am.
Yeah, yeah.
I really am.
It's like, who's paying, bro?
Like, I'm not going to lie.
Like, if somebody just hands me a fucking check for $100 million, they're like, hey, listen, we want a few specials from you.
Casino Strategies and Tour Costs00:03:36
I'm going to find a way.
Yes, Roku.
I don't care.
You know what I'm saying?
We can make this happen.
100%.
But at the same time, if you put me on Tubi, you'll be on Daily Wire.
This is Max Payne.
It's actually cool to not ever get your wife wet.
But I guess what I'm saying is like, it kills me.
But if they can't pay you the amount of money that's worth people not seeing it.
Yeah, yeah, right, right, right.
You got to pay me for who's not going to see it.
100%.
Yeah, yeah.
They can't pay you for who's not going to see it.
And nobody's going to see it.
Yeah.
Buddy, I'm putting it up here.
I'm going to find another way.
I have another way.
I think that people will find out about soon.
But I think there is a way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll talk about it.
I'd love to.
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, no, it's been sick.
And I'm really excited.
And like, I can't wait to.
I mean, I need a little time off because it's been nine months in a row.
Yeah.
It's like, I'm just fucking too unhealthy.
But I'm gearing up for like a really big 2023.
And I just, you know.
I'm excited to see the, I get excited when I see guys that have like committed to this strategy because you can really see what happens in their career.
And like, I kind of like, I know what you're about to go through.
You know, when somebody says they're going to watch Game of Thrones for the first time or something, and you're just like, oh, dude, this is going to be awesome.
I know what you're about to go through.
And like, let's avoid the red wedding.
But then how will you have sex with women?
You're right.
No, but Al was with me.
I remember like we were going on the road and it was just, it's just really cool.
Yeah.
No, it's been great.
I mean, even this year has been fucking crazy.
And that's, I've been really lucky.
Like, I just hired two of my best friends.
Yeah.
And it's just like, that's the other thing.
It's like, like, I want, like, yes, I'm a comedy Republican in the way that it's like, I want, I just think you should earn it.
And it's like, it's talent.
And you should like, it wins out.
But also, it's like, I'm happy now, bro.
Like, of course, I'll take it to the like, you know, the, I'll work.
I will not, I'm not going to stop working hard.
I'm in the middle of like whatever prime you have.
Like, it's now.
But like, if you told me when I was fucking 19 that it's like, I get to travel, do headline clubs.
My best friends are with me.
And we just like, my work meetings are like, you know, a Google meet with my, like a guy I've known since kindergarten.
I'd be like, this is, I don't, can I sign a contract for this to be the rest of my life?
You know what I mean?
Like, I fucking love it.
Yeah.
It is, it is, yeah, like, we're, we're really, we're fucking blessed.
This is, this is what I'm saying.
And that's why I think the world sends me there.
Because my life is going well.
No, like, that's why that's why I think the nuclear holocaust is imminent.
Because I'm like, things are too good right now.
Yeah, yeah, no.
But that's, that's why I do believe.
And don't get me wrong, we've been incredibly lucky and have very fortunate things happen.
Yeah, but like, that's why I do believe in the dream a little bit because, like, like you, you're working with your friends.
Like, my boy Dove that you met is the first friend I met at college.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
That's Jamil, who I don't even think is here, is one of my first friends I met in high school.
Yeah.
Right.
I mean, like, Al, I met, I thought he was another guy.
Yeah.
He asked me as a guy who used to do comedy.
He made up a name.
Yeah.
It just so happened.
So I started messaging back and forth because I love that guy.
The name was Bob Stagger, by the way.
He said the omnis Bob.
But it's like, yeah, we've been able to create these things.
And like meeting Mark, having Mark come on, Miles is Mark's buddy from college.
Like that kind of thing.
It trickles down.
And it's just fucking great.
And you're building these things.
And I don't know.
I guess that's why I'm bullish on this idea of American dream or whatever.
Immigrant Stories and Ethnic Fire00:03:46
Well, here's the thing.
What I'll say about it is like, yes, it's possible.
But here's the thing.
It's a casino.
I love casinos.
I have a great time at casinos, but it's like, I happen to hit on the roulette.
You know what I mean?
We're the house.
I'll hit the, like, we're literally, you know what we are?
Truly, we're the guys at the casinos who know the rules of blackjack and just stay there for hours doing it.
Give me 51%.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we're grinding it out.
You know what I mean?
Eventually we get successful enough and then YouTube finds out and they're like, you're banned from the fucking ages.
Exactly.
But yeah, I don't know.
Enjoy it.
I guess that's what I'm trying to say.
Thanks, man.
No, I'm having a fucking blast.
I know there's like, you know, we could have a tendency of like to figure out all the things that maybe we could be doing or like why we don't deserve or stuff like that.
And it kind of like ruins the joy a little bit.
So it's one of those things that I've tried really hard to, instead of going, why I shouldn't have it, I go, I'm so lucky.
Totally.
Right?
Well, that's what it is.
And like, I am taking, like, I know it's kind of like my strategy isn't necessarily the soundest because it's like, I could, I could do really good numbers on the road off the strength of this right now, but I just knew that I needed time off and I needed to enjoy, like, A, enjoy it, but also just like decompress.
And it's like, yeah, what's the point?
Evolve, dude.
Like, don't force out.
Yeah.
Like, I don't know.
At least for me, I got to care about this shit that I'm talking about.
Like, so it's like, of course.
Yeah, you reach the end of your rope and you need to like find out who, how you're a different person.
Yeah.
You know, like how you fucking change.
And come back and miss it.
That's the other thing.
Once you miss it, it's like, then the fire is back.
Because right now it's like, I am fucking phoning it in.
Philly's already sold out how to have to plug in.
The shows are going to be bad, folks.
They're trying to tell you to do radio?
Yeah.
Like, for what?
Literally, yeah.
I was like, no.
It's not.
We did the job.
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, so I'm excited to just fucking get back with the fire and just like do other shit.
Have you gotten a lot of Greek love?
It started now.
Like, because the thing is, when I first started doing comedy, like the local Greek people like wanted me to like do the Greek shows.
Do the Greek shows.
And it's like, you want me to come do, oh, yeah, I'll do my, should I do my ass eating chunk at St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Festival?
You know what I mean?
Like, I just, it was not that comic at all where it's like there's such an ethnic like hack circuit.
Yeah.
But, you know, now I've been doing comedy, what, 14 years, whatever.
And it's like, in this special, there is a lot of stuff about like growing up as an immigrant and having like a Greek family and all this stuff that just kind of organically happens.
Because it's hilarious.
Yeah.
It's funny people.
It's very funny.
But they don't feel like Greek bits to me.
Like it doesn't feel like, oh, I'm the Greek guy.
Well, it's relatable to Greek.
Like Greek people love that shit and I've gotten a lot of people.
But non-Greeks can appreciate this.
It's more of an immigrant thing.
Like that's the thing you recognize is that like the fish out of water story is what it is.
That's why Sebastian kills with more than just Italians.
People thought it was, oh, all these Italians.
It's fucking Indians at his show.
It's Muslims, everything.
My dad is also like that.
My family is also like that.
It is the immigrant experience.
And it's not as unique, I guess, as we thought.
Totally.
No, no.
Everybody thinks that they're existing in their own bubble.
Oh, dude.
It's so funny because every ethnic group is just like everything they say.
It's like, you know Greek people.
They love to eat.
You know what I mean?
Like, you know, there's like black people always late.
It's like every culture says that about themselves.
You know Greek time.
It's like, no, everyone is just the same.
White people are just perfect.
I think The final thesis.
Except for American Whites.
Yeah.
The Universal Immigrant Experience00:01:09
Well, good shit, man.
I'm stoked for you, dude.
I really am.
Thank you so much.
Thanks for having me.
Let the people know, like, any other place they could.
I know the tour is almost done.
Yeah, the tour's ending.
But I will say, I'm taking it real easy in the fall.
But there are a couple fall dates.
I'm going to be in Denver.
Yeah, I'm going to be in Denver.
I'm going to be in Pittsburgh.
I'm going to be in Phoenix.
I'm doing Carolina's in December.
So there's a handful for me to gear up for 2023.
But yeah, just the YouTube channel is really what it is.
I mean, I'm really investing in that a lot.
I post, I'm letting the special breathe a little bit, but when this, you know, I post every day, I post a short, and then I also twice a week post like a longer clip from like a, you know, either topical stuff, crowd work, whatever, just like a three to five minute bit.
So I do a lot.
I post a lot on my YouTube channel.
And I'm, there's a couple things I got cooking.
So just go to the YouTube channel, you know, Instagram, TikTok.
Your Instagram.
What is Stavi Baby2?
Stavi Baby2.
S-T-A-V-V-Y Baby2.
And yeah, stavi.biz is my website.
I'm going to have some cool merch for the special up there and just a bunch of stuff.