Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh dissect Mr. Beast's $3.5 million "Squid Game" recreation, which drove his subscriber count from half a million to seven million overnight by leveraging pop culture. The conversation abruptly shifts to Chris Cuomo's firing following allegations that he advised his brother Andrew regarding sexual harassment at a wedding, debating whether familial loyalty excuses such behavior. Ultimately, the chaotic dialogue highlights the stark contrast between digital innovation and traditional media's inability to adapt, while veering into crude humor about animals and wine. [Automatically generated summary]
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If you guys haven't seen it already, I'd be shocked.
But there's a YouTuber named Mr. Beast.
Yeah.
Now, Mr. Beast is probably the biggest person on YouTube right now.
He puts out videos.
They get 40, 50, 60 million views.
It's insane.
It's unbelievable.
Guys, incredibly talented.
He recreated Squid Game, the South Korean horror drama, whatever you want to call it, anthology that was on Netflix.
He basically recreated, spent $3.5 million, had 456 people come out to compete in Squid Game.
Obviously, not to the death.
They lose.
They just get taken out of the potential money.
The person who won it won $456,000.
He spent $3.5 million recreating each one of the stages.
I think he did it in North Carolina.
He has like a, I guess, a big sound stage there or something like that.
And it's on YouTube.
You can go watch it.
And I thought it was absolutely brilliant to see it executed.
Incredible.
It was brilliant to see it executed.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it was just, it's to see something of that scale was unbelievable.
So impressive.
Yeah.
Yo, Mr. Beast is like a real life social media great Gatsby.
Okay.
Like, he's just this guy that popped up.
I don't know how the fuck he made all his money, but all of a sudden you just keep hearing about him and he's doing all this really cool shit.
And it's like, it's like that fucking Squid Game thing is the party that you got to be at.
Bro, here's the thing.
This guy has been, I know this sounds so crazy to say this because he's so much more, has so much more awareness than we do, but I'm going to say it as I feel it.
He's been on my radar for a while.
Right.
Right.
Now he should be on my radar.
He's the most successful person on YouTube.
But what he does is he does these like incredible like games kind of.
And they're not all games competition, but it's just like, I'm going to stay underground for 24 hours or I'm going to stay underwater for 24 hours.
He does these videos and you're just like, okay, I got to see where this goes.
It's really good.
You watch it.
The editing's great.
His crew is all really good.
It's fun.
Now, the beauty of this Squid Game thing that has received probably over 100 million views.
So 130 as a minute.
130.
Okay.
What happened when he was doing those things on YouTube?
But this is also on YouTube.
But they were tapping into the YouTube community.
But if you're not someone who watches YouTube regularly, you can have no clue who Mr. Beast is.
Because he's not doing things that are going to get picked up by the news.
If you're just like a complete casual when it comes to YouTube, the Daily News isn't talking about it.
The Los Angeles Times isn't talking about it.
Late night's not talking about it.
It doesn't tap into mainstream culture.
And I think something really interesting about the Squid Game one is now there's a lot of people that all of a sudden are going to learn about the most popular person on YouTube.
They're going to, quote unquote, discover the most successful man on the internet, which is a crazy thing to say, but it is in a microcosm what is happening now with fame.
He's the most famous person on YouTube.
But outside of YouTube, if you're not someone that watches YouTube regularly, you will have no clue who this person is.
But because he tapped into something topical, everybody comes to the watering hole for topicality, right?
If you're talking about a specific issue, we got to indulge in it.
If it's about something I care about, I got to go tap in.
Even if I'm not someone who's on YouTube, my mom might not even be on YouTube.
But if she wants to see a reaction to Squid Game, she's going to go in there for the conversation.
And I wonder if he starts to bring topicality into his future endeavors because he sees the 3X reaction that he got from doing it.
What do you think?
And I wonder if it's, yeah, I think so.
And I wonder if that's going to start the trend of a lot of people trying to do this, but I'm not sure if they can compete with him on scale.
Yeah, scale and money and even like creativity.
Like he really understands.
It seems like he really understands YouTube, how to make it work.
But I'm just wondering if he starts to go, oh, wow, this is how I cross over to mainstream.
Now I'm a creator that happens to create on YouTube.
Before this, I was a YouTuber.
Yeah.
And that's the difference maker.
When you go mainstream, you're just using YouTube as the platform.
You just happen to be a creative.
And this was a story I saw in news outlets.
Somebody created a squid game, spent $3.5 million.
So I think this could be the way he crosses over.
Like you said, I think this is the beginning of it.
Now he just feeds it and feeds it and feeds it.
What do you think, Mark?
It's just funny that the news is describing as like somebody.
You know what I mean?
Like, which he is, I guess, somebody to the whole world, even to America.
But on YouTube, he's like such a presence.
So I think what he'll probably do is tap into pop culture as it presents itself.
But the issue with that is you just make yourself dependent on pop culture.
So like with what he's doing and like his content is if you're doing a stunt based off pop culture and there's nothing really poppy in the news, then you're like, oh crap, what do I do?
So I think he's just going to continue on his own thing.
And then anytime something pops up, and he doesn't need to do it every week.
He only needs to do it when he wants these bumps.
There's been a huge bump.
I mean, earlier you were telling me he was averaging like between half a million to a million subscribers a week that were added to his channel.
And he did this and he got 7 million.
Yes.
According to like some like social blade or something like that, that's what it looked like.
I mean, that's unreal.
Yeah.
But that's what happens when you tap into the masses and then you get the news outlets start talking about it.
And now of a sudden, you go from a YouTuber to a famous person.
Yes.
But, and again, this is something that slapped me in the face when I was in LA doing a movie when I was there and I was like, oh, these people only care about movies.
They got no clue what we're doing over here.
And he, I'm sure, is abundantly aware of that.
I'm sure he's walking around Walmart and all the kids there are going, holy shit, you're the most famous person on the planet.
And all the people working there, or maybe not the people working there, but like the senior executives are going, who is this person that they want to take pictures of?
He's having like a hard time working with like TV studios.
I was listening to him on a podcast recently.
He was like, yeah, I'm having a tough time because I'm trying to work with TV studios.
Like in the past, he was.
And they'd be like, eh, we don't really see it.
Like, blah, blah, blah.
Like the money, it doesn't really make sense.
Like, no, we won't give you more money.
And he's like, I'm getting 10 times the views you're getting on any show you're doing like per dollar spent.
Like you guys don't understand.
They don't go.
But to that point, like industry stuff, I don't think they see it.
But he only posts two or three of these a year, max.
Yeah, of course.
Just enough to like tap in.
But to that, to that exact point, it's like, and I, and I, I remember either I was talking to you about this or I was looking into it about him just going all in on YouTube.
And it's a fascinating case study because like trying to get these TV people, like trying to convince them of something that you already know that works while their ship is sinking is a really awful task.
Yeah.
Well, it's actually interesting.
It's like the Amazon thing.
Okay.
That most of these businesses fail because in order to succeed, you have to do something to kill your current business.
You know what I mean?
Like, so Amazon starts going to like digital e-books when their whole business is selling physical books.
So they hire someone and they go, yo, your job is to put your old job out of business.
The iPhone killed the iPod.
And they were like, what?
And they're like, yeah, you have to innovate to where your new thing is destroying the old thing, which takes a lot of confidence that one, the new thing is going to be the new thing.
Yeah.
And the faith that you're going to be able to actually do it effectively.
Yeah.
It's really scary.
Blog posters in the same situation.
They just chose not to do it.
If we stream, we're going to kill all of our retail stores.
But if you want to survive, you have to change.
Continue to innovate.
Which sounds like a really easy little thing to say.
Like, oh, yeah, if you want to survive, just change.
But it's like, that's a really terrifying position to be.
But imagine how pissed off you would be.
Like, you get 50 million views on average, right?
You're talking to a network that can barely get a million views for a sitcom that they're spending tens of millions of dollars on.
You get 50 million views.
Yeah, film a show with your friends.
With the homies.
Right?
You know how to film it.
You know how to make it very, and it's clean.
Yeah, yeah.
Right?
It's like super curses.
You could put any advertising on it, right?
And you're sitting down with these execs and they're going, I don't know if I get it.
Who the fuck are you?
Yeah.
You don't get it.
Yeah.
You don't.
That's why your business is failing.
You don't get what people are actually watching.
I don't even know if they know their business is failing.
It's crazy.
Yeah, because you're the last one to know you fell off.
Yeah.
Kind of like, you know how like a rapper is the last one to know you're not popping anymore?
And I wonder if that's the exact because it's also like willfully ignorance.
You're like, I don't want to, oh, no, this is just a downtime.
Yeah.
And we'll come back up.
We'll get a new show.
It'll get popping again.
You know, sometimes you have a few bad seasons.
Yeah, or you look at all your peers.
You're like, oh, we were competing with all these other TV companies and they're all going down.
We're about where all the rest of the TV comes from.
So you lie to yourself.
You forget who you're competing with.
Your survival is still on the line, though.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, 100%.
But you're like, oh, yeah, ABC is doing this.
NBC is doing this.
You don't realize that, oh, I'm not competing with TV anymore.
I'm competing with this whole new thing.
Yeah, it's just eyeballs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Who is getting the eyeballs?
Who's catching eyeballs?
And this kid knows how to do it.
And he is on the marketplace for the eyeballs, too.
Yeah, and the savvy shit he did, he had a big ad in the middle of it to make his money.
But even just like, you know, they had the little packs.
Whenever they got eliminated, that would explode.
And an actual Squid Game show, they died.
He even strategically put in somebody, like a few people overacting, like, oh, oh, oh.
And then he looked in the camera and goes, it doesn't hurt.
It was just like, hey, guys, remember, this is for everybody.
This is all in good fun.
And the actual Squid game, they never played.
The last game on the Squid Game show is the game called Squid Game, but that's too violent.
So he's like, oh, we're just going to do musical chairs with the Scooty and Poe.
He said it when I watched, he was just like, none of us know the rules to this shit.
That's in America.
Yeah, yeah.
I was fired because I honestly, they got to that last one.
I was like, I don't even want to deal with all this.
And then when he said musical chairs, I was like, that's my boy right there.
Yeah.
That's how he's home team.
I'm saying whatever the explanation aside, I think the reason it is like, this can be too violent.
We can't have people hurting each other.
This has got to be as harmless as possible.
So everybody can view it.
He's not thinking about a million views.
He's thinking about a billion views.
So it has to be a much squeakier, clean thing to get a billion views.
Yeah, yeah.
It was just, it was really interesting.
I'm curious to see his trajectory.
He's got to do more topical shit because it's hard to step away from the views.
Like once you taste 100 and you know why, it's not like it happened.
You're like, oh, this was a mistake.
I don't know how to recreate this.
You know exactly how.
It's going to be hard.
It's going to be hard when that new Spider-Man movie that everybody wants to see and they're spending $10,000 a ticket coming out.
It's going to be hard to be like, I made my own webbing and I climbed a building.
Yeah.
Like it's going to be hard to not do that knowing you're going to get 100 million.
That video would be fire.
No judge like why I'm going to be Spider-Man jumping off buildings and swinging.
Yeah, that's fine.
You got to watch it.
Yeah, I want 10% beast.
You know what I mean?
And if you only knew what going beast meant.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
We got our own beast over here.
That video.
That video is guaranteed 200 million views.
You're showing the real mischief.
Fucking animals?
Yeah, yeah.
Fucking animal, bro.
Go beast?
Yeah, going beast.
That's guaranteed 250 million views.
Yeah.
Well, I think they have a view of those videos already.
They don't get 250 million views.
If they were on YouTube.
And depending on the animal, if it was like a redhead.
And if it had a cool thumbnail.
If it had a cool thumbnail and an engaging intro.
Engaging intro, cool thumbnail, and brought to you by a dope video game.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
That's the trick.
If you got the right thumbnail, you might be able to.
You just take a break from fucking the animal.
Put a carrot in his mouth.
Hey, so by the way, this episode of going beast is brought to you by Brawl Game.
You know what I mean?
When you're done fucking animals, you can play this with your other friends who have never had sex.
Yo.
That'd actually be good, Brand Synergy.
Yeah.
Wrong end.
Now we're thinking.
Now we're thinking.
When Mr. Beast comes out, you got to explain to him what no, we got to get him on.
You got to explain what going beast means.
We got it.
Yeah, we'll talk about what going beast for sure, but we got to get him on.
I'm also just curious about what drives him.
Like, is it truly fun?
Is it all outcome dependent?
Or is it truly fun to do these things?
Is the journey also fun?
Yeah, that's a good question because I think he tries to make it fun, but at a certain point, the numbers are so big, you have to be very outcome-focused.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You have to be outcome focused.
And you probably lose some of the fun.
Yeah.
So I'm curious.
It's like, and then if a video doesn't do well for him, is it not enjoyable?
Like, does he, it seems like a lot of the ones I've watched, like, he suffers through.
Suffering is part of it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You bury yourself or whatever.
You bury yourself.
I'm not going to leave this circle for 24 hours.
You know, it's like survive on an island.
Like all these things are suffering and it's worth that outcome.
But if that outcome wasn't there, would this still be stuff you do with your friends?
Would it be these cool pranks that you would do on a Saturday when you're not working?
Right.
And we're in this like real position of luxury where like we enjoy the fuck out of what we do.
Yes.
We're on stage.
We're doing a podcast.
Like this is enjoyable.
And then the fact that we can monetize it is just, that's some, I don't know, someone looking out for us.
Yeah.
You know?
So I'm always focused on these people and like what it's like for him to see a video do 20 million views and be mad.
Yeah.
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Cuomo Sexual Assault Scandal00:08:29
What's the thing about them Cuomos, my boys?
What?
I don't think it's a big deal.
Talk to me.
I take out copy.
So here's what I'm reading.
He's advising, Miles, why are you already looking so disconcerted?
He's already, so he just basically advised his brother and he was like, hey, here's the deal.
What do you need from me?
I want to help.
I want to help my brother out of a jam.
Isn't that what we would all do?
Yeah.
So here's the thing.
There's one thing he did that's fucked up.
But go ahead.
Go, go, go, go.
There's one thing he did that's fucked up that he apparently sent a text message that said, like, I've got a lead on the wedding girl, whichever.
It's about some girl at a wedding that said Andrew Cuomo like sexually harassed her at a wedding.
So that text is a little bit fucked up to me because I don't know what the intention is behind I've got a lead on the wedding girl.
Yeah.
But the other thing that he did that everybody's so upset about is he asked other journalists if they knew if a story was dropping about his brother.
Yeah.
We would all do that.
So here's the thing.
Two things can be true.
The Cuomos can be absolute scumbags and their dynasty can be falling apart and never to be recreated ever again.
And we would have all done the exact same thing to help our brother.
Yes.
I think the issue with the Cuomo specifically is this like, girl, you're nodding your head.
It's like basking in the sunshine.
Yeah.
Doing the fuck shit that everybody's like when a priest rapes a kid.
It's like, it's more egregious than when just like a random guy does it at a bus stop.
Because it's like, oh, you're supposed to be the pinnacle of morality.
Like you're telling everyone how to live and you're telling everyone how to be virtuous.
Politician and a newscaster.
Yeah.
A journalist.
Like, we have to trust both of you to do the right thing and to be the right people.
Yeah.
And then not only is he a journalist, but he's a journalist that's positioned in a way, either through his own doing or the doing of the institution he's a part of that rallies against, you know, men that are acting toxic and problematic men and government corruption.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like if there's like a right-wing guy that does this, people are like, eh, you know.
But Andrew to me is a slimy fuck.
Chris, Chris is not corrupt.
He's just Italian.
Italians love their families.
That defense didn't work for Andrew.
Andrew, but if Andrew Cuomo, to be specific, but if Chris Cuomo was like, dude, I'm not corrupt.
I'm just Italian.
We don't have families.
I'd be like, I.
The Italian defense is so funny.
The Italian defense for family works great.
That's all Mafia is.
It's family.
Well, that's what he said when he was touching the girls.
He was like, well, I'm not, I wasn't touching.
I wasn't being creepy.
I'm Italian.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
For Andrew Cuomo, that doesn't work.
But for Chris Cuomo, it does work, bro.
It does work.
Just say you're Italian.
It works out.
Okay, I'm going to try this.
No, I mean, I'm not saying that.
Like, for example, like, okay, let's say an immigrant just came from, like a refugee, just came from, I'm trying to think of a place.
Where were all the refugees in Europe from?
When?
Remember, they had to teach them how to not rape.
You know, remember that they gave him not rape classes and shit?
I don't know.
But basically, some places where they weren't used to women just walking around bikinis and shit.
Yeah, yeah.
Right.
And they had to be like, yo, over here, you can't, you know, rape these girls.
Put the stone down.
Yeah, exactly.
Put the stone down.
Yeah.
So they had to teach him how to do it.
Now, if a guy just started whistling as a girl at a girl as they walked by and they were a refugee, you'd be like, ugh, you don't know any better.
It's that soft bigotry shit.
It's like, yeah, in his country, if a girl walks by in a bikini, she's trying to get raped.
So that's why he's acting like that.
You got to educate them.
You can't do that shit.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'll be honest, like, my boxing coach said this shit to me.
He's like, yo, in Egypt, if a guy's looking at your girl, it's because he's trying to fuck your girl.
If a guy looks at my girl in America, I don't care.
It's like people look at girls here.
People have conversations with them.
It's no big deal.
You say, hi, you got some coffee.
But in Egypt, that means something different.
Yeah.
So if I see that.
He's looking at a wolf in his eyes.
Boom.
So if I see a guy doing that in Egypt, I got to cut his head open with a knife.
There's some countries where men men hold hands in some countries.
That's exactly.
If you do that over here, that means something.
Yo, that's true.
So it's like, you know, this goes both ways.
Culture changes.
So the Italian thing kind of does work.
An old Italian dude kissing a girl, whatever like that, I get it.
Yeah, that is it.
All right.
I don't agree, but it worked for Chris for sure.
And there's some.
Do you think that we let old Italian men's touchy?
I don't think it works for Andrew Cuomo, who's the fucking governor.
Like, you're not some just Italian uncle.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
You're the fucking governor of the country.
It's the Italian uncle.
But if it's the Italian uncle.
If he had the opportunity to be president, nobody would have an issue with this.
I don't think anybody's talking about it.
I think it'd be more like, and I'm not trying to call out these chicks, but I think it'd be more like, hey, remember that time we met at the party and we had such a great conversation?
You don't remember that?
Instead of, remember that time you kissed me twice and you said something that was a little inappropriate.
But I think once you see a sinking ship, it's like, yo, it's time to pile on, baby.
Let me get this clout up.
Yeah, maybe, yeah.
I don't believe it's strong enough to argue to the death.
I just think it doesn't necessarily work for Andrew Cuomo as a governor of New York, as just some regular old Italian, sure.
But for Chris Cuomo, I actually think there is some room to be like, dog, this is my brother.
I wonder if he's okay.
He did some fuck shit, but that's my brother.
I got to cover it up.
You're always going to hold down your brother.
Yeah.
Any of us would have done the exact same thing.
It's still wrong.
He can't use the Italian excuse now.
Because if I'm Chris, I'd be pissed.
I'd be pissed, dog, if you took that shit.
Bro, the reason I did this is because I'm actually Italian and you are to use the Italian thing on the thing you can't use it on.
Yeah.
Fuck.
Now, what am I supposed to say?
I can't be like, oh, I'm also Italian.
That's why I defended my family.
He's like, you were touching these girls.
You said this because you're an Italian, idiot.
Yo, but when would you stop?
When would you stop?
Like, when would you go, yo?
I can't hold my brother down with that.
Murder, rape, and like molestation, any of that shit, that umbrella?
No.
Everything short of that, let's go.
Sexual assault.
And even murder, what's the context?
Sexual assault.
We talking about sexual assault.
Going beast with the boys?
Yeah.
What if he goes beast?
Sexually assaulting an animal?
What if he goes beast?
What if your boy goes beast?
He goes beast.
That's between him and the animal.
What if your brother?
You walk into your brother.
He's fucking a pig.
Hey, hey, G's up.
What if it's happy?
What if it's your dog?
Hey, G's up.
I don't fuck happy now.
Yeah, that's where he draws.
That's my dog.
You know what I mean?
If anybody fucks happy as me.
What if he's using that?
My dog is me.
As a shake weight.
He's just got happy.
He's holding happy by the abdomen.
Yeah.
And he's just fucking like that.
He's doing a Peloton workout class.
Yeah, at the same time.
And they're like, 10 more minutes.
That's my dog.
If anybody fucking happy's mouth is sun.
I'm happy.
And you hear like happy barking, but also like gagging.
Let me ask you this.
Let me ask you this.
Do the barks sound happy?
They sound so happy.
You see the tail wagging crazy.
Hey, hey, bro.
Good for y'all.
He's going beast oral.
Good for y'all.
He's going beast oral, dude.
No, go a beast oral.
You got to warm it up.
Dude, you always got to do some foreplay before you go straight beast.
Are you talking about going straight beast without getting that fucking top?
You know, it's the most sloppy top if it's coming from a beast.
You could turn down.
Hold on.
You would turn down the sloppiest top of all.
Dog top?
Bow, wow, wow, yippie.
Yo, yippie.
Yay, bro.
To be honest, Sabi would give great tops.
Yeah.
Yo, sloppy Sabi.
Yeah.
Who Sabi?
Sabi, dog.
Yeah.
Man, I almost let Sabi look.
Do you know what I mean?
I'd be coming out the shower.
Put some peanut butter in your ass.
No, I never get peanut butter in my ass.
Yo, does Sabi.
Does Sabi watch you or what?
Say what?
Does Sabi watch you when you're doing your thing?
What, when I'm beaten?
Yeah.
And I'm beating down?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, if you think I'm retarded, dude.
Why don't you flip her over, fam?
What the fuck are you doing?
Laying on top of her like that.
That's crazy.
This guy's retarded.
You don't even know how it works.
Yeah, he really thinks I'm retarded.
She, whatever.
You know what I mean?
Nah, dogs are boys.
Dogs are boys.
Dogs are boys.
I don't even correct motherfuckers.
They're like, is it boy or girl?
I'm like, he's a boy.
What's his name?
He him.
He got no dick.
Nah, he him, dog.
Nah, my dog got the fat dick.
You know what I'm saying?
With the lippy.
Anyway, so yeah, your dog just gets fucking throated.
Hey, if happy enjoys it, good for them.
Happy enjoys it, good for you.
Whatever makes happy happy, right?
What are you saying?
You're saying free Chris?
I'm saying free Chris, dead ass.
I'm saying free Chris.
Fuck Chris.
Yeah, but he had not for this.
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But not for this.
But not for the exactly.
But not for this.
I don't think he did anything wrong here.
But his brother did rape women.
Allegedly.
I know.
He did something wrong, but you just do the wrong thing.
What?
He groped women.
No.
I think he graped him.
That's groping rape.
I know.
Where'd he grape?
What's the worst?
He graped him.
Where's the APE part coming from?
Where's the ape?
How you?
He graped him.
It's a grope.
It's a rapist.
It's a groping rape.
He raped him with a grope.
See, son, if you said some shit like that to me, I would legit be like, come on, dog.
He just Italian.
Dead ass.
And what do they love?
Great.
Grape apes.
I'm just saying.
That's true.
They know how to make the best one.
What was that girl also doing when he was graping her?
Whining, probably.
Didn't like it.
Didn't like it one bit.
Didn't like it one bit, but she didn't whine immediately.
She took a little time.
She let it fly.
A grape needs a little time to become a wine.
Yeah.
And an Italian should understand that.
Italians should know better.
Yeah.
And maybe six to seven years, I'm going to get a wine.