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Ballet, Guns, and Skiing00:08:50
What's up, everybody?
Welcome to Flagrant 2.
It's your boy Shelton here with Akash Sam.
We got Mark Gagnon.
What's up?
We got White Alex.
We have, you thought I wasn't going to do that this year.
Yeah, wow.
We have White Alex, and then we have Dove the Truffle.
Happy Hanukkah.
Let's get right into it.
We had a good day, everybody.
We're not on the road this weekend.
Good weekend.
How was the day?
Good.
Okay, very good.
We got in with our families and Thanksgiving and all that other stuff.
Nobody cares.
Let's get right into it.
I have a personal story I'd like to share.
Me too, guys.
Okay, good.
You have a personal story?
Yeah, okay.
No one gives a fuck.
I have a personal story.
Tell us about the ballet.
Yeah, yeah.
No, no, this is before the ballet.
This is very ended up going to the ballet.
Okay.
I was a victim of Peloton.
I almost died on a Peloton on a treadmill.
Really?
I understand how it kills the kids.
I fell off the treadmill.
I literally, like in a fucking TikTok, I'm running.
The sneakers that Dove has on right now.
Give me one of those sneakers.
Just take it off real quick.
Yeah, you're a little ninja.
Here, they fold too easy like that.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
My toe caught the treadmill.
This death treadmill from this Peloton, this horrible company, Peloton, that you can sell your stock on public right now, PLPN or something.
And it caught the front of it.
Yeah.
It bent over.
My girl and I are both doing a workout class with Adrian Williams or Wilson or whatever his name on Peloton.
I like the guys that work for them.
Great guys.
Are you in a public gym or are you at your best?
No, this is out of thank God.
Yeah.
This is downstairs.
I catch the front of it and it all happened so fast.
Okay.
I catch my toe in the front of it.
Immediately both of my legs are gone and I'm holding on with one arm.
Okay.
I'm holding on to one arm.
The treadmill is just rubbing up and down my shins, just slowly wearing away the skin on my shins, right?
I'm like, fuck, I got to do something.
I got to let go or this thing's going to swallow me up.
Right?
I let go, slams me against the wall.
This is way too part two.
Waypole part two, but it's so fast, right?
Everything happened one instance.
Stubbed toe.
Ah, fuck.
I stopped my toe.
Foom, boom, boom, boom.
Slam against the wall, right?
Immediately, I'm like, this could not get any worse.
Immediately, I just hear, babe, are you okay?
Foom, boom, boom.
Slam against the wall.
My girl, my girl, my girl turns.
My girl turns to see if I'm okay.
As she's looking to see if I'm okay, she also turns, flip, slam against the wall.
Both of us are there.
We go to the ballet that night to make up for it.
That's how it works.
Yeah, because you almost killed your wife, dog.
Yeah, it was crazy.
But I could see how it swallowed up kids.
You go, there's no, I don't know, like, you know how sometimes the end of treadmills doesn't it also feel like?
Uh, it kind of like raises.
There's a little lip at the end yeah yeah, it feels like that.
Right yeah, there should be.
This is no lip, it's lipless.
It's lipless.
A white woman of treadmills yes, what?
Hold on one second.
That's a good, that's a good point.
Actually, they aren't that lip.
Pelotons are white women's treadmills too.
Oh, my god, that was genius.
You're insulting my people, but that was genius.
Um but yes, so so this thing doesn't have any lip.
You don't know when you're at the end.
Yeah, I stubbed my toe, i'm gone.
I couldn't grab the side one, I just grabbed this one.
It was like you're hanging on the end of a boat.
You know those people like they fall off the uh the, the water the, water ski.
What is it called?
Water ski?
Yeah, water ski yeah, when they barefoot ski, barefoot ski yeah, but I was just doing that and having all of my students just slowly like where's, Like wrapping around three times.
100%.
But I see how I could stuff a baby underneath and then they die.
Yeah.
This thing is dangerous.
Yeah.
Wait, so how long were you running on it before you?
Three minutes.
I went right on my first incline.
They're like, take the incline up two points.
And I was like, I'll take up three points.
This shit is an intermediate class.
I'm advanced.
Right?
I took that shit up three points and then it told me to speed up the thing, hit my toe, boom, slam.
My girl, are you okay?
Boom.
Slam.
Both of us.
What did the teacher do?
Say again?
What did the teacher do?
He stopped the class.
It's not live.
It's not live.
Oh, the guys on the screen, like, what the fuck just happened?
30,000 people watching.
They just got to stop their dancing because I don't know how to walk.
Yeah, there were two headshots in the middle of the class.
So, yeah.
So that's why we're at the ballet.
And did you guys bounce back?
Or were you like, all right, let's finish it up?
Right back on.
Do another three more minutes.
Yeah, I mean, it was embarrassing.
She was like holding me like something like I just got fucking raped or something like that.
Like she's literally like holding me.
Andrew, are you okay?
Is everything okay?
And she fell too.
I'm like, you hit the wall too.
What the fuck are you holding me for?
No.
You know what I mean?
Back off.
Are you okay?
Dumbass.
Can't even fucking run, walk.
How much must you have been complaining for her to be like, I got to comfort this guy?
No, no, it wasn't.
She was like genuinely concerned.
And then, you know, she just looked like an idiot.
Dude, who falls off of a treadmill?
Right?
Anyway.
So that was my weekend.
And then we went to the stupid ballet.
And wait, why did you go to the ballet?
Nah, we had booked tickets to go to the ballet.
My girl used to be a ballerina and she likes those things.
And it's just stupid.
It's the worst, dog.
It's the worst.
We saw the Nutcracker.
I'll say this.
I saw that shit, I think.
Okay.
Maybe.
I saw one ballet.
Here's the thing: The Nutcracker, the second half, you can appreciate the athletic prowess that it takes to do these things.
The first half of the ballet of The Nutcracker is absolutely stupid.
It's idiotic.
It makes no sense.
They're not speaking and they're not dancing.
Right, right.
So it's just waste your time.
What are they doing?
They're at the dinner party.
What do you think?
It's not a waste.
It's not even a dinner party.
They're giving presents, but they're just walking around.
There's no dancing and they're not speaking.
So it's just, it's just like one of those movies back in the day before.
Silent film.
It's a silent film.
But I'm not coming for a silent film.
Unfunny Charlie Chaplin.
Yes, exactly.
This is the change.
Nothing.
It's a story.
Super stupid.
The rats come, then the rat king is there.
They shoot it with the fucking sword fight.
It makes no sense.
The second part with the dancing, the racism, that's it.
Yeah, that shit is mad racist.
No one ever talks about that.
Super racist.
Nutcracker is super racist.
And how do Asian people dance?
They do this.
How do Arab people dance?
It was fun.
They do this shit?
I don't know.
I don't know.
And then they have the Russians.
That one's fire, too.
Well, yeah.
I didn't see Nutcracker.
I deadassed it on every ballet with Nutcracker until you said what happened in yours.
I was like, wait, I think mine is different.
There's other ones.
What about you guys?
Anything fun this weekend?
Yeah, I went to Tennessee and I want a gun.
Oh, really?
I want a gun.
Did you shoot it?
Why'd you go to the ship?
No, no, no.
I was meeting up with an old friend and shows in Nashville.
I had shows in Nashville.
Thank you to everybody who came out, sold out both nights.
Yeah, baby.
And then I was meeting up with an old friend, and he's kind of a wild boy.
And I see him when I meet him.
Like, he gained weight.
What's going on?
And then he casually mentioned having weapons or something.
So we get to the hotel.
I'm like, let me see the guns.
He pulls out Walter something, PP something.
I don't know.
But he got three fucking clips.
First of all, he pulls out three knives.
And I'm like, this guy is ready for war.
Then he pulls out the handgun and I'm like, unload this shit, take out every bullet possible, and then let me hold it.
Because I don't trust myself with a loaded gun, obviously.
I hold the gun and I'm like, oh, this is kind of cool.
But then the motherfucker had like a sight on it, like a scope, like an infrared.
And as soon as I looked through the viewfinder thing or whatever, and I saw the red light, I was like, I want a gun.
I will kill everybody, dog.
This shit is so fire.
Yeah.
Oh, dude.
Take a look at that fucking sight on a handgun.
Break it out of here.
It was light.
I can carry that around.
I can't believe you're from Texas.
You never held a gun.
I held a fucking M16 or whatever one time on a farm big ass gun.
That shit weighs more than me.
I'm too weak to have a gun like that.
Yeah.
I know, a little nice handgun.
I could have had that.
Same pistol that you gave Carmen San Diego?
Give me that shit.
You're just like a late blooming inzel, I think.
Like, you went in your whole 20s.
You're like, man, respect everyone.
Now you're like, approach a 40.
You're like, I don't think you knew me in my 20s if you think I respected everyone in my 20s.
Who's this friend that had three knives and the guns?
What's the whole deal?
And why reference his weight gain?
Like, what is that?
He didn't gain weight.
He actually just had fucking guns and clips in his waist.
Yeah.
But for what?
Like, you asked him to bring the guns over.
I'm trying to.
He just has this at all times.
You weren't concerned?
Was there a Black Lives Matter march or something in the middle of it?
No, no, no.
He was a black dude.
So I was just like, well, he's from Nashville.
So probably just, you know, he's been around some shit.
So whatever.
I'm a sheltered guy, but I'm not going to ask questions.
I don't care.
Yep, he had three clips.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was a white man.
What is he going to be around?
Son, who knows?
He'd need multiple people.
Gun people love the more guns the banks.
Is he a gun person or is he like a gang member?
I think.
And I'm only asking that because you said he's black.
If you say he was anything else, I wouldn't ask that.
Isn't that fucked up?
Because if you said to me, he's like, he's white, I'd be like, oh, this guy's in a militia or something.
He's like, which is also a white gang.
That's a white gang.
That's white gang.
You know, it was funny.
He was telling us about some shit he got into in high school.
He was like, yeah, in Nashville, we had these things called high school fraternities.
And he described the fraternities like we beef with other fraternities.
And he's like explaining it to Touchar.
And Thou Shar goes, yes, yes, I'm familiar with gangs.
I know what's actually this is.
That's great rebranding.
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, I think he did some wild shit and now he's out of it, but he still loves his guns.
You know what I mean?
He still loves fucking toting shit around.
Three clips.
This guy ready for war at all times.
How do you know this guy?
You went to school together or something?
Yeah, I don't.
High school fraternity.
Yeah, we did.
So talking to each other.
In LA, we got cool, actually.
Oh, you guys knew each other in LA?
Yeah.
Got you, got you.
But then he obviously left during the pandemic and now he just got his own house and he was just like, I'm going to take you shooting.
White Gang Fraternities Explained00:03:49
And I didn't want to go until it was too late.
When I held the gun, I was like, fuck, I wish I went shooting.
Do I know this guy?
You might.
I'll tell you the name of the comic.
Yes.
It used to be a comic?
Yeah, yeah.
I'll tell you the name of the pie.
Yeah, yeah, I know who this guy is.
Funny guy.
Yeah.
He's a good guy.
That's my guy.
Yep.
All right.
Yeah.
You say it.
What does it say?
His name, but then.
I won't say it.
Okay.
We're going to beep it.
Yeah.
That makes perfect sense.
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah, yeah.
100%.
All right.
Shout out to him, man.
Okay.
What else?
Anybody else?
Mark, you have a good weekend?
I had a great weekend.
I just hung out, read this book about Jeff Bezos.
I'm all in on Bezos.
You like him?
I'm a huge fan.
Why?
He's just might be the genius.
Might be the biggest genius of all time.
Really?
I mean, I don't know.
I'm reading like a super biased book about why he's great.
And I'm like, yeah, it makes sense.
Why is he a genius?
He's produced by Amazon Books.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've read it on my Kindle.
I read it on my Kindle.
It keeps on breaking.
I've had like three broken Kindles on it.
I think you might like this.
Yeah.
And I did.
And I really did.
And why?
It just breaks down how he became a billionaire and how he started the business and why he's good at it.
Yeah.
And like he really cares about customers and wants people to be happy, but also just fucks over his employees a little bit.
Yeah.
It's like, yeah, you can't really have both.
Just a little bit is fine.
A tasteful amount of fucking your employees.
But I've heard it's not.
I've heard it's beyond tasteful.
Refuse to like put in air conditioning units in the warehouses and stuff, but have like an ambulance outside just in case people passed out from heat stroke.
That's cheaper.
Cheaper.
Yeah.
So it's like you can have a great product, happy employees or happy customers.
You can only have two.
What if you could have all three in and out?
Oh, yeah, I guess maybe they're happy.
And it's a good problem.
They pay the employees well.
Costco always brags about how great they're paid.
Patagonia.
The gun is fire, right?
And the customer is treated well.
Yeah.
And I think it's just because they're honest about it.
They're like, don't hang out for a while.
You're in and out.
Like, we are telling you exactly what we want from you.
The secret?
You gotta be Christian.
That's what I'm saying.
That's it.
That shit without the replacement.
Chick-fil-A.
Chick-fil-A.
Same thing.
Oh, my God.
The people are so nice every time you go on a Chick-fil-A.
Yeah.
It's incredible.
They're the nice Christianity.
Costco's the other one.
Costco, everyone loves Costco.
Yeah.
Like the employees that work there, if you look at the little badge, it's like work tier since 1998.
Christian?
Actually, I don't know.
But he's just like a super nice guy.
Patagonia, apparently.
They're not Christian, though, I don't think.
I think they're liberal cucks.
But it's like employees can take vacations whenever they want to.
You don't have an assigned time.
You don't even really have to tell people with that much notice.
Just go.
He said, like, he founded the idea with you should always be able to go surfing whenever you want to.
Because he was a great fuck.
Craybuck.
Oh, the Patagonian?
Yeah, let my people surf or something like that.
Yeah.
But then you just cut into your margins.
That's basically all.
That's what you can do.
Yeah, but how much do you need to make?
Phezos got enough, right?
He could cut in his margins a bit now.
That's crazy.
He said no air conditionings, but put an ambulance outside just in case.
And again, it's like maybe not him, but it's the fulfillment managers, blah, blah, blah.
You have not brought up any points about why he's great.
And the one point that you said was kind of fucked up is actually atrocious.
It's like, yeah, really inhumane.
Yeah, I mean, he's just like kind of brilliant, understands every facet of the business, like obsessive worker and is willing to like go all out, hyper-competitive and extremely big dreamer.
And is like, no, we're going to create the store that has everything.
We're going to have the library that has every book.
I agree with all in a time when it was like, oh, you can't sell everything.
Like he went up against borders and like Barnes and Noble when they were like dominating books and he came in with no experience.
It was like, yeah, we're going to be, we're going to beat them.
But I'm not even looking at them.
I'm looking at Walmart.
I'm looking at Sears.
And he was just like, people would laugh at him.
Like, what are you talking about?
Like, sell everything.
It makes no sense.
I always love that guy that everybody laughs at.
And then he fucking does it all.
And then does it all.
And just goes for it.
Yeah, he got to have something.
Overpopulation and Human Rights00:12:16
You know what I mean?
He got something.
He just doesn't have anything cool.
That's why nobody respects him like they respected like fucking Jobs or Elon.
Yeah.
Because you want the gadgets.
Yeah.
You want Batman.
You just respect gadgets.
You want Batman.
Same thing with Bill Gates.
It's like, I don't know what you did, buddy.
Like, you try to make the Microsoft store just looks like a bootleg Apple store.
Yeah.
Give me the gadgets.
And I think that Amazon, you know, maybe he's going into the space stuff so he can start making a gadget.
But even when he started to make the gadget, trash.
He always loved space.
That's the other part.
He was like riding a high school.
He's like, yo, we're going to live in space.
Earth is going to be a little visiting spot.
Can I keep it a buck?
Please, I would love for you to.
I would love to keep it a buck on the Flagrant 2 podcast.
Yeah, please do that.
That space shit.
Go.
It's mad selfish, yo.
Why?
I don't mind selfishness, but just keep it real with me.
Stop acting like you care about the future generations of the werehold.
It's like if you really cared about humanity, there's so many things you could do right now to help humanity.
On Earth.
On Earth, like you could find a way, like the desalination process.
Make that more efficient, Elon.
Make that more efficient, Jeff.
Like, there are so many better ways where you can help humanity, and going to Mars is not one of them.
Right.
Starting these space colonies is not one of them.
We all know that the world is not over in 50 years.
It's not over in 100 years.
It's not over in 200 years or whatever these scientists fucking say.
Okay.
Obviously, we now know the scientists are willing to say anything if the people that are giving them enough money are willing to agree with what they're saying.
But the point I'm trying to make is just be honest.
This is your toy.
If it's your toy and you want to play with your toy and it costs a billion dollars, that's fine.
Do your thing.
You made the money.
Do with it.
But stop selling us on this.
Like, we have to do this for the future generations.
You saw spaceships as a kid.
You think it's really cool.
You made enough money to have a fucking spaceship.
Then you go do it.
That's what it is.
You're not doing this for me.
Yeah.
Okay.
This is pure selfishness.
There's no altruism in space travel.
But what if they, what if they look at the world and they go, yo, we're going to be overpopulated.
We're not.
We're not overpopulated.
This is the one thing I push back on when you said scientists will do anything if they get money.
They might be, but don't you think they will get more money from like the fucking oil and gas company and any other company that wants to bypass EPA regulation?
They would pay a scientist way more to say shit like, global warming's not real.
They do, and they take that shit all the time.
Yeah, but there's also a lot who are saying this is a big problem.
So who's paying them?
Who?
The scientists that are saying it's a big problem.
The earth in trouble, they're just being annoying.
They're comics.
That's all they are.
They're just comics going, like, I'm going to have an alternative take.
Or they're just us.
Yeah, they're just fucking us.
They're annoying us.
You don't think that we annoy the people in government?
You don't think we annoy the CIA?
You don't think we annoy the FBI when we start talking about this Delane trial?
We start saying all this shit.
You don't think they're going to roll their fucking eyes?
Yo, shut up.
FBI, motherfucker.
Yes.
Why are you guys yapping all the time about Delaney?
They got motherfuckers assigned to our podcast just to listen to our stuff.
Yeah, there's FBI agents on my computer trying to look at this.
Listen, watching.
They're annoyed.
Oh, fuck.
Here they go.
Back to work.
I got to pay attention to these sons of bitches.
Okay.
All I'm trying to say is be honest.
You got your little thing that you like and you want to spend billions of dollars on it.
That's fine.
But stop acting like you're doing it for the greater good of civilization.
How do you know we're not going to be overpopulated?
Because I know.
How do you know?
Because China is doing all right.
But they're mad overpopulated.
No, they're not.
They got cities they got to shut down.
The Chinese.
They built cities.
They don't got enough people to go in them, so they're shutting them down.
They're blowing up buildings in China because there's not enough Chinese people.
Figure it out.
China.
It's facts, though.
Yeah, they built it.
100%.
They built these fucking cities out and they realized, oh, there's not enough Chinese people.
Shocking.
World gets better.
People start fucking.
Or stop fucking.
Right?
Immediately, what happens?
Once there's opportunities for you to do something in life, you don't fuck.
That's why we have negative population in Norway, Sweden, all those places.
Every place with feminists.
Right now, you're literally saying that less population is better.
And then you're.
I never said it's better.
I said it's what's happening.
Yeah, but you said it solves problems.
You said, solve the problem.
What a shock.
We stop fucking everything.
You want to solve the problem of the world?
What is the world problem right now?
Overpopulation.
Overpopulation.
Okay.
But you can't get it.
Who's overpopulation?
Who's the overpopulation?
India.
Give women rights.
You won't do it.
Give women rights in India.
Guaranteed.
That overpopulation shit gone.
Gone.
Let women not get raped when they walk home.
Guaranteed.
Guaranteed.
Your issues of overpopulation in India gone.
But y'all don't want to do it.
So you should be overpopulated.
Figure it out.
But you just said overpopulation is not an issue.
You deserve overpopulation because you want to populate it.
You're saying it's not an issue.
You're saying it's not an issue.
Your whole point is overpopulation is not an issue.
No, no, no, no.
Don't let them get it.
You're just contradicting yourself into a loop.
No, no.
Overpopulation is not an issue.
Okay.
Now, start the argument over again.
Because you just looped again.
We're not overpopulated in America.
Bro, he's on a Peloton right now.
He's going around and around.
He's sucked in the right.
He didn't hit the fucking wall.
I'm looking at him.
I'm tripping.
Let me clarify what I'm trying to say.
Overpopulation is not real.
We're not overpopulated in America.
Maybe you're overpopulated in India, but all you need to do is give women rights and all of a sudden they stop wanting to have 15 fucking babies.
Simple as that.
That's it.
Okay.
You let the Hasidic Jews do something besides take the fucking city bike over to Williamsburg Bridge.
I guarantee that the women there, I guarantee the women will stop having 15 fucking kids.
I guarantee any population of women that's having 15 kids, no education.
Any country with more gender equality, they're having less kids.
That's it.
I understand.
You want to stop the human race?
Give women rights.
It's very simple.
You want to stop humanity.
Yeah.
Give women rights and take away men's rights.
Where it's flip-flop, Portland.
Are there any people there?
No.
They're going to explode the story.
There's no people in Portland.
Yeah, but then homeless people in Portland.
Then homelessness becomes a problem because men got nothing to work for.
Say what?
Then homelessness becomes a problem because men are like, I ain't need a fucking job.
Kill them.
Kill them.
Fumigate the homeless.
Okay?
You just got to fumigate.
Same thing we do to cockroaches.
Same thing that we do to all these other water bugs.
Do the same thing to the people of Portland.
Just go through with that smoke thing.
Oh, they're looking at the ghostbusters.
You haven't got ghostbusters.
Your policies actually, so far, I've agreed with.
That's what I'm saying.
Everybody who kill the homeless.
I don't have a problem with either of these.
Bezos, figure it out.
Bezos, just give women's rights to all the places that don't have it.
India, women's rights.
Overpopulation solved.
Give me another place with overpopulation.
I don't know.
I don't care about other countries.
It doesn't exist.
What's another point?
Overpopulation doesn't exist.
It's a myth.
I mean, probably Pakistan, like the whole subcontinent.
I don't know.
Pakistan, I don't know if it's overpopulated.
Feminism, very popular.
Very popular in Pakistan.
Feminism is very popular.
Facts.
Is it popular because it's like one of those banned books where they don't allow it?
So it gets more popular.
The other thing with Bezos, I'll say, is that he's a great case for adoption.
Is he adopted?
He was like sort of adopted.
What is sort of adopted?
So he was married, like his mom had him and then was married to like kind of a deadbeat dude.
And then he was a unicyclist, weirdly.
And then he went out of the picture.
And then this new guy came in, Cuban dude, Bezos, and basically like adopted him.
And he was like, yeah, I'll raise your kid with you.
And then turned out to be the virtual.
Great guy, dude.
Lucky motherfucker, right?
But if you're nice to see instant karma like that.
Yeah.
A single single mom with himself.
And he was just like, am I really going to marry this fucking single mom?
100%.
This kid, kid, 14 years old.
100%.
Never shuts the fuck up.
Always pretend he knows everything.
All his dreams and shit.
We're going to live in space.
Shut the fuck up, kid.
Yeah.
I think it was just books at that time, but maybe it was dreams about space.
Yeah, bro.
He dreamed about everything, dog.
That's what Mark was saying.
Yeah.
That's a great case for adoption.
Yeah, it is.
Don't put like the ASPCA like in the arms of an angel with some kid crying in a cage.
Like, nah.
Say, yo, you could be a billionaire.
Yeah.
Do it like a lot of commercial.
Yeah.
Black people will be adopting kids everywhere.
Steve Jobs adopted.
No.
That ass adopted.
You don't remember that movie when he went to his dad's restaurant?
I didn't watch that fucking movie.
Come on.
Adopted, bro.
He was adopted.
Steve Jobs.
Adopted.
Why?
Why billionaires fucking adopted?
Yo, we got to get ourselves some kids.
Think if somebody adopted Jay-Z, how lucky that guy would have been.
Holy shit.
Why?
Was he in an orphanage?
Jay-Z was fatherless.
Or his dad wasn't in his life.
But if somebody did the same, Bezos wasn't in a life.
Somebody wife.
Some guy that was like, oh, I don't want to marry a single mom.
Because the mom was a lesbian.
She was looking box.
Well, some woman was like, yo, I don't want to marry this other woman right now when it's illegal.
So if a woman came through and married illegally Jay-Z's mom, she could have been bawling right now.
She's bawling out, bro.
Yeah, but these people aren't.
Old MA could have been rich.
Facts, dude.
Fucked up.
Old MA.
All I'm trying to say is selfish, and I'm okay with rich people being selfish.
I don't like it when they put it on.
I don't like when they put their selfishness out there like they're trying to help the greater good.
That bothers me.
Yeah, they got that God complex, though.
The whole thing, I'm going to save humanity.
And then you just got to make it align with the fact that you actually just want, you're power hungry and you want to take over the world.
Yeah.
It has to, you have to think you're saving the world.
Fucking Hitler thought he was saving the world and making it a better place.
Now, I'm not saying Bezos is Hitler, but any guy that's power hungry and is thinking on that grand of a scale is going to have to make it a humanitarian thing to cope.
That's the only way you can live with it.
I would respect the fuck out of him if he was just like, yo, I got crazy bread right now and I got nothing to do.
All right.
I already got a, I divorced my wife, which was lit, made more money, got a new wife, Hispanic.
You know what I mean?
Respect to my pops who fucking adopted me.
I just adopted a Spanish too.
This shit works out.
He's just following his stepdad's footsteps.
That's all he's doing.
You know what I mean?
Throw one up for the Cubanos.
You know what I mean?
So pick this girl out the fucking mud.
Took that girl out the mud.
Cleaned her up.
You know what I mean?
Like one of them pelicans after the BP.
You know what I'm saying?
Here you go, little baby bird.
Let me just wipe you down.
Yeah.
Wiped her down real quick, made her a billionaire.
Gave Shorty a check.
Right?
The ex, Megan, or whatever her name was.
Mackenzie.
Whatever.
She made her a billionaire.
Just making chicks billionaires left and right.
He adopted women's rights, actually.
That motherfucker does everything for women's rights.
Yo, honestly, he is the feminist of our times.
Okay, then.
How many more people made women billionaires?
How you make women feminists?
Give them books, right?
There you go.
My mom wasn't a feminist until she started reading Ann Rand.
You know what I mean?
I know that's true.
You met his girl and mentioned my name.
Bro, I don't even know who this bitch is.
Yeah, but your mom.
I know she got a Y in her name.
I never seen Ann spelled like that.
It's A-Y-N, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah.
I thought it was And.
No, it's And Rand.
And And Rand.
Yeah.
It's just an Ampersand for the Rand on it.
It's Amperson.
It's Ampersand Rand.
That's the most feminist bitch in the world, bro.
She's just going.
What name?
Ampersand Rand.
Pam, bro.
Ann Rand got my mom thinking, bro.
Is that short for Annie?
Nah, Ampersand.
Amperson.
I'm just saying, Pam.
Pam.
Is Pam Rand.
Is Pam Pam?
Pam Pan Rand.
Panned Rand.
Pam.
You're saying Pam.
No, I'm saying Pang.
Okay.
It's Pang Shui.
Lee Ann Chen.
Yeah.
I'm a tennis player.
I'm a tennis.
Do you think that happens in China?
Like, Pang Shui is going to miss it.
Pang?
No, Peng.
Pang.
Who's on first?
What made you a feminist?
What book was it?
Say what?
What made you a feminist?
Bible.
The Bible?
Hell yeah.
Wait, what?
Because, man, Bible's super lit if you're a woman.
What do you mean?
Because you can have kids without giving birth.
Jesus picked up this gutter slut from fucking Bethlehem, dragging her around with the homies, getting a box filled.
Jesus.
I'm talking about Mary Maggle.
Obviously.
Oh, shit.
We didn't think you're talking about Mary.
Virgin's the most lit, man.
How many Marys in the Bible?
They couldn't think of new names.
Damn, there wasn't that many names back then.
Yeah, there was like six names.
Yeah.
What was the Virgin Variable?
Everyone in India's name Akash.
What are you talking about names, dog?
Yeah, dude.
How many other Akashs do you know?
You fucking dumb brown idiot.
You fucking fake Jew.
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Fuck you.
You undercover Jew.
Yeah, you too.
You don't want them.
You too.
Okay?
Fucking undercover Jew.
On the second day of Hanukkah, my true love came to me.
I had no idea.
Okay, do you guys know how that song goes?
On the first day of Hanukkah.
Two late deposits and a partridge in a pear tree.
On a second day of Hanukkah, Great Britain gave to me a little land to the Middle East is disputed.
And a partridge in a pear tree.
Yeah.
On a third day of Hanukkah, my true love gave to me.
A little more of the land in the Middle East is disputed.
Yeah, rolling occupation.
And a partridge in a pear tree.
That's probably good.
On a fourth day of Hanukkah, the settlements increase.
Five blue squares.
Golan Heights.
Lord Jobstock.
That's high nine.
Hey guys, I want to give you all an update of what's going on with the controversy over the infamous tour coming to Canada.
This venue, Massey Hall, iconic venue with a board of directors that are a bunch of bitch-ass motherfuckers wouldn't let us perform there.
And we decided to move the show elsewhere.
And you know what else I decided?
I decided, Dad, we need to have a Canadian leg of the infamous tour because it's not enough that we just perform three shows at Meridian Hall in Toronto.
We need to spread our wings all throughout Canada because the great people of Canada deserve some inappropriate jokes.
I think, matter of fact, they rather love them.
So we are coming to Vancouver, Montreal, Winnipeg, Calgary.
And you can get those tickets right now.
Matter of fact, they're available on pre-sale starting at 10 a.m. Pacific Standard Time today.
TheandrewSchultz.com.
Pre-sale code is Schultz.
S-C-H-U-L-Z.
Make sure you use that.
We are coming.
We are expanding.
Infamous Store Canada is a real motherfucker thing.
We will not be canceled.
We will not be censored.
We will just keep expanding.
That is what it is.
TheandrewSchultz.com.
We added more cities in America as well.
Make sure you go get those.
TheandrewSchultz.com.
Akash, what you got?
First of all, thank you to everybody who came out in Nashville.
We sold out both shows and Zane's was fucking amazing.
Thank you guys so much.
Upcoming shows, I'm going to be in Washington, D.C. next weekend at the Comedy Loft.
Buy your fucking tickets before they sell out.
January 7th and January 8th, I'm coming home to Dallas Hyenas.
I expect everybody I know at that goddamn show.
Let's sell out the whole weekend.
January 27th through 29th, I'm going to be at the Comedy Vault in Batavia, Illinois.
And February 3rd and 4th, I'm going to be at the Sandman Comedy Club in Richmond.
Also, we got some dates coming up in some major cities that you guys have been asking for for a long time.
I will announce those probably next week.
But in the meantime, get tickets to these shows at akashing.com.
Now, let's get back to the show.
All right, guys, we're going to take a break for a second because I got to make sure that y'all are satiated.
All right.
This right here is the greatest water on the planet.
It's liquid death.
You've seen it.
I know it looks like it's beer.
It's not beer.
Matter of fact, if you don't drink beer, if you don't drink anything, you're at the cookout, you want to hold something so you don't look like a square, it's liquid death.
But let me tell you something about the water.
The liquid death, this is specifically right here, the no bubbles.
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What is that called?
Flat water?
Flat, natural, natural.
It's the best I've ever had in my entire life.
Okay?
It is the best I've ever had in my entire life.
It's my favorite water that is on the planet.
The Bubbles one is very good as well, but this is literally the best water I've ever had in my entire life.
It stays nice and cold.
It's not like those fucking water bottles.
You get a water bottle you can't even place on a table.
The bottoms are all crinkled and messed up because they started using the cheap plastic.
Don't blame supply issues.
It's cheap plastic.
You guys are cheapening out liquid death, the can keeps it cold.
Place it wherever the hell you want to place it.
Crack that thing open and enjoy.
And let me tell you right now, you get free shipping on all water and merch at liquiddeath.com/slash flagrant.
That's liquiddeath.com/slash flagrant or grab some at Whole Foods Sprouts and 7-Eleven.
Now let's get back to the show.
Did you read what Ann Rand said about Israeli-Palestinian conflict?
What did she say?
Y'all don't know what Ann Rand said about that.
You never heard about that?
What does this say?
Yo, Ann Rand is a wild bitch.
Atlas.
My mom was giving all sorts of pushback to my dad when she was reading Ann Rand.
Oh, no.
She's women's icebergs.
I honestly don't know what those books are about.
I just know my mom was getting saucy when she was reading those books.
Oh, really?
What is it about?
What is it?
It's not even a feminist book.
It's like an individual, like humanitarianism.
Kind of, yeah.
Like, you can do anything yourself, basically.
You don't rely on big government.
She hated big government.
She came from like communist Russia.
Really?
Yeah, and she was just like, fuck the government, basically.
As an individual, she didn't leave my dad for about a year after that.
So maybe she was all about that.
Do it on yourself shit.
This is actually good.
She took me for a year and was like, you know what?
You know what?
Not worth it.
Not worth it.
These lonely ass old women.
This is good to know, actually.
If my girl ever starts acting, I'll be like, yo, where is it?
She's like, what are you talking about?
I was like, your copy of Atlas Shrugged.
Where is it?
I know it's under your bed somewhere.
Show me where it is.
Now, is Ann Rand married?
I don't know.
No chance.
Lonely.
Anybody marry that long ass bitch?
You know what her name is, though?
What's that?
Alicia?
Alita Rosenbaum.
Oh, my God.
Do you have one?
On the fifth day of Honor, my true love gave to me five single women crying on the park bench about how happy they are in their freedom and how much that they don't miss their husbands because their lives are so much better now that they're lonely.
Okay.
A lot of singing.
I know.
You know.
You good?
No, I'm going through it, guys.
I can be sad.
Jordan Peterson.
Yo, that is.
That is funny you say Jordan Peterson because Jordan Pearson and Amran saying the same shit.
And when Jordan Pearson says it, dudes like kick their fucking drug habit.
They get a job.
They get a car.
They get a house.
And when women do that shit, they become lonely, old, bitter, fucking single bitches, bro.
It's sad.
Isn't that fucked up?
We need a better role model for women.
How can women be empowered, believe in themselves, feel like they can achieve anything while at the same time not be lonely and 50 years old by themselves?
I do mean who's the model?
Who's the model?
They might need a man.
Beyonce.
That's Beyonce.
That's true.
Yeah, Beyonce is married.
She got kids.
She seems happy.
Exactly.
Beyonce married, kids.
Got cheated on, dealt with it.
Dealt with it.
That's a good thing.
Dealt with it.
That's a good spokesperson, ladies.
Delta.
That was actually a good trade, I feel like.
What's that?
Jay-Z cheats.
She makes a dope song.
Like, they both kind of air it out, and then they're good.
He made a whole album apologizing to this bitch.
Come on now.
Yeah.
That's enough.
Seems like a fair trade.
Yeah, you just call Beyonce the B-word, dog.
What?
A bay?
Damn.
You just called Beyonce the B-word.
I started seeing some beads in your life.
She's the queen bee.
She's the queen bee.
She knows she's the queen bee.
I like that.
That was good.
Queen Bee.
That was good.
Catch it.
She calls herself, bro.
Anyway, yeah, I don't know if it's the best trade-off because I think she could sell records without being cheated on pretty well.
But I hear what you're saying.
But it's a settlement.
Yeah.
It did make them money.
It does fucking suck because you're like, who do I have to look up to?
Like, if you're a young girl, you're like, wait a minute, my dream is Beyonce.
And then even Beyonce gets cheated on.
Fuck.
And you're like, oh, what if I was a powerful woman in politics?
What if I was Hillary Clinton's?
I would never get cheated on if I was Hillary Clinton.
Yeah.
And then she was.
And then she gets cheated on too.
Yeah.
Fuck.
Oh, my God.
There is one way that you won't get cheated on, ladies, or a way where you might not get cheated on as much.
Hit it.
And that is if you marry loser dudes that can't get no pussy.
But do you want to be with the loser dude who can't get no pussy?
That's the tricky thing.
If you want to be around the desired dude, you want to get the risk of that desire being acted on.
There's a lot of loser dudes who still cheat.
Now imagine that.
You with the loser ass dude, he still cheats.
Worst of both worlds.
Oh, yeah.
You got to kill yourself.
Yeah.
Like, I settled for you and then you cheated?
Yeah, that's foul.
That's foul.
No, that's foul.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
That's the worst.
So you got to just get the good guy and hope he doesn't cheat.
Son, we need more women.
We need more empowered women.
Amanda Knox.
We need Amanda Knox.
Yeah.
That's the Italian prosecutor guy would say, Amanda Canox.
That's the best.
I just watched that.
Have you guys seen that documentary?
No.
Oh, it was incredible.
Do you guys know who Amanda Canox is?
I have some idea.
She killed kids for a while.
No, she didn't kill kids, bro.
She was wrongfully accused and convicted of murdering her roommates.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
In Italy.
In Italy.
And locked up for years.
Freely.
Yup.
Years.
She didn't do it.
Say what?
And she didn't do it?
She didn't do it.
Wow.
But she has a demeanor which makes you think that she did.
But when the evidence and all this kind of stuff comes out, you're like, nah, she didn't do it.
She kind of got RBF.
She got RBF big time.
What is that?
Wrestling Peter.
Yeah, it's not even bitch face.
It's Portland face.
It's like, what?
She must be from there.
RPF.
She must be from Northwest.
Yeah, RPF.
RPF.
Wrestling Portland face.
It's just like, yeah, there's something kind of, and she's a beautiful girl.
And she's like really eloquent.
Seattle.
Yeah, Portland.
I know it.
I know it.
It's impressive.
She, she is, I did just see the documentary.
They probably said it a thousand times, so it's probably smaller than her, but I do thank you very much for that compliment.
Think that she is eloquent, articulate, clearly smart, but there's something a little bit detached right there.
And that might come from being like scrutinized by the media for fucking a decade and everybody thinking that you're a murderer.
But even the documentary starts out crazy.
Really?
Wait, what do you mean?
It starts out crazy.
She's like, either I killed somebody or your worst nightmare is true or something like that.
Which is any random person could be accused of murdering somebody and then end up in jail.
That's a part.
Either I'm a nightmare or your worst nightmare is true.
Oh, shit.
But it was like super, there was just no emotion behind it.
Like, she had the emotional level of someone that would commit murder to that man.
She was accused of killing a woman, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
With her boyfriend at the time, her roommate.
Right.
And you're sold that she didn't do it.
I don't think she did it.
Or was she aware of it?
Was she there?
I don't think so.
You think the boyfriend did it?
Was it a small part of it?
It's pretty clear that she didn't do it.
Yeah, I don't think she did.
But she could have been there.
I don't think she did.
Miles 10,000.
Miles 10,000.
Yeah, that's a Miles 10,000.
We're going to get her on the pod.
We're going to get her a pod.
I want to say Frina, right?
100% free.
I bumped into her in LA.
We bumped into her.
I didn't know it was her.
She had prolonged eye contact with me because I think she was staying with Whitney.
And I think Whitney was telling her, yo, you got to come on the pod, whatever.
But so we literally were talking about it earlier that day.
And then, because I didn't know who she was.
I think it was the last person on the planet who didn't know who Amanda Knox was.
And I was telling Whitney, I was like, honestly, I don't know who this person is.
I literally pushed you and said, that's Amanda Knox.
And then randomly we bump into her when we're going to one of these fancy places.
Wild.
I don't know her.
I'll meet her, though.
Watching female killers is that gets you a little bricked?
A little slight.
Yeah, do you know why women do it now?
Do you get it?
I told you this.
Women love serial killer documentaries?
Yeah, I watched it.
I understood it completely.
Joni Harris.
Jodi Arias.
Oh, why?
Because she was a piece?
She's a pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pea.
She was kind of a piece.
And she killed her husband or boyfriend and like took pictures of it.
It was crazy.
But was her boyfriend doing anything mean to her?
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I don't know.
Probably not, bro.
Yeah, he's probably completely innocent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, she's all men.
She's an absolute piece.
And I watched the documentary.
I was like, yeah, I'd let her kill me.
I get it.
Yeah, she was kind of fine.
And I'll be honest, she was very beautiful in the documentary.
Amanda Knox?
Amanda Knox, very beautiful.
Very beautiful girl.
Come on, huh?
Who is that?
Who is this?
This is Jodi Arias.
I think we could do better, bro.
Yeah, bro.
That's a piece.
But as far as killers go.
Yeah, but Knox got that.
Nah.
Oh, she's pretty.
She looks cute there.
Come on, eh?
Heavies.
Yeah.
Okay.
What else we got, boys?
What else we got?
Should we talk about it?
What happened?
The tragedy?
Mr. Virgil Ablaw is gone.
He is no longer with us.
Virgil Ablo, you guys probably know from Creating Off-White.
He's also had other brands he created.
Head of Louis Vuitton now, creative director of men's for Louis Vuitton.
And then I think the first one he created was that maybe we were all familiar with was a brand called Pyrex.
And he died of cancer.
Nobody knew he had cancer.
And which is becoming increasingly popular amongst, I guess, famous people.
This idea of not milking that trauma or not even sharing that trauma.
Take note TikTok.
Take note.
Don't let me be singing.
Take note.
Okay.
You don't need to share what happened to you in your fucking day about how difficult it was and put that stupid song in the background.
You don't need to do that.
It's okay.
Something shitty can happen to you and you can keep it to yourself.
You don't immediately have to share it on fucking TikTok or Instagram or whatever.
So Virgil ends up passing away.
Tragic.
And he represented something that was really interesting.
He represented like in the fashion industry talent, not clout.
Now, when you have talent, there's clout associated with it.
But he would create things.
I think the easiest thing to make something cool in fashion is to take what is the least cool thing and attach a person of stature to it.
Either a model or someone that's like an influencer within the fashion world, and then all of a sudden it becomes cool.
Kanye and Kim started wearing champion, and then champion hoodies became a fucking perfect example.
Another example is like the dad Nikes.
Yeah, remember?
So it's like, what's the least cool sneaker ever?
Okay, a dad Nike.
Throw it on.
Now it's cool because it's not cool.
And then eventually enough people that are cool wear it and it becomes cool again.
Yeah.
Grandma sweaters kind of had like a little moment.
100%.
Basically, anything Kanye does is that.
Yeah.
Right.
And to me, it's the easiest version of fashion.
So, uh, so basically, uh, what I liked about Virgil was that he created cool shit.
He took cool things and made them cooler.
Right.
He could go and get like the worst fucking sneaker and go, okay, I'm going to try to like add some sauce to this and make it cool.
But he'll take a fucking Air Force One, a sneaker that we wear that we already like and make the coolest version of that.
The Jordan 1.
The Jordan one.
The most iconic.
You know how hard it is to take the thing that's so fucking iconic and cool and make it even cooler, even better.
Yeah.
Like he, the guy had real fucking true creative talent.
It wasn't just, let me throw a famous person on this, a Richard Meal watch.
It's like, all right, if I can get OBJ to wear it during the game, I guess it's really cool now.
And all these rappers pay a million dollars for the watch, so I guess it's cool.
There's nothing good about a Richard Mill watch.
I don't, I'm not impressed by it.
I'm not impressed by it.
Objectively ugly to look at.
Yeah.
Maybe the inner workings of it, if you're a real watch nerd, you know how I don't even think that.
Mad Gaudi, not into it.
I don't know.
They're going to have their run and they're all going to bang.
That's why I don't have a Richard Mill.
It's like super god.
But he actually was a true creative.
It wasn't clout.
It was creativity.
And then when you're a true creative and then it's executing, people love it.
Of course, there's clout associated with it.
But he was a true fucking creative.
How often do you get that in this marketplace where you can get things that are absolutely worthless and give them value if enough people believe in it?
Yeah.
Like we live in the crypto times where if we just believe in three letters, enough people can come fucking millionaires off of it.
And I'm not saying it's necessarily bad.
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I hope that we all become fucking millionaires off of it.
But it's really cool to see someone create a thing or improve upon a thing that we already think is great with just cool ideas and great aesthetic.
And that is why, yeah, he'll be missed.
Yeah.
It was sad for me because I think he was already great, but like where he was going to go, I think it was going to be like, I thought he was going to be like a name in the way that Louis Vuitton is a name that just lives on.
And it was just sad to see somebody that's.
It's like if Michael Jordan walked away after like his second, maybe third championship and then never if he never came back.
Yeah.
Now, once he came back, you're like, oh my God, this is a whole new level of greatness.
I think that's kind of what it feels like when it got cut short.
Now, all y'all motherfuckers that were canceling him for not paying $50 for the Black Lives Matter, y'all feel bad now?
You know what's impressive?
That he didn't tell people he had cancer right there.
I would have said it.
I would have said it so fast.
He was getting cooked for the pop smoke.
My black life matters.
I'm donating to chemo to save my black life.
That's what I would have said to all the motherfucking hating ones.
100%.
And he still came out and was like, yo, I did it.
I could, I donated 25K to you know, bail or whatever like that to people who got arrested at the marches.
Like, he still felt the need to say it, but like, yo, real talk.
The guy's going through fucking chemo.
He knows he has cancer.
Cancer's probably going to kill him.
People are shitting on him for a $50 donation.
It's like aggressive cancer.
He knows he's dying soon.
Yeah.
And he's just letting y'all take your stupid fucking shit.
Oh, you're so out of touch.
You know what you're out of touch with, motherfucker?
Cancer.
People were saying with the pop smoke album cover, like, man, it seems like he really phoned it in.
Like, he wasn't really trying.
I'm like, yeah.
He's doing it from a hospital bed, probably.
Yeah.
What was the album cover?
Yeah, I'll pull it.
Oh, I remember that shit.
Yeah, they were shitting on it.
Yeah.
I was thinking about why celebrities aren't announcing.
And I thought about this.
If you announce you have a terminal illness, you get eulogized earlier on, you get a lot of love.
But if you keep living, people are going to start to be like, hey, motherfucker, why are you still here?
Oh, wow.
I think that's why you're like, I don't want to deal with that.
You know, that's interesting.
It's all you're mad intrusive already.
But on top of that, if I live, you're going to be upset.
If I beat it, y'all are going to be like, yo, I wonder with like the actor stuff, a little different than like if you're behind the scenes as a creative director.
Right, right.
But with an actor stuff, it's like, if you're supposed to be in action movies and I know that you're suffering.
Oh, can I believe it?
It's like actors like coming out as gay.
Like if you're playing the heartthrob, will the American or global public allow you to bag bad bitches in your movie knowing full well you smoke cocks in your free time?
Do you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, this is different.
What was that guy from How I Met Your Mother's Name?
Yeah, Neopatman Harris.
That motherfucker ain't played a straight dude since, really.
Doogie Hauser ain't playing a straight dude.
He was bagging bitches in that show.
Incredibly successful show.
Probably made tens of millions of dollars.
Probably still makes money off of that.
The second he comes out as gay, he got to be weird, right?
When did he announce he was gay?
I thought it was during the show.
Or like maybe even before.
No.
Yeah.
The other half of it.
And then he was doing a lot of Broadway.
Like he became a camp.
Yeah, it's like he either can play a gay dude or he plays like something eccentric and weird.
Like he can't just be like a guy who fucks girls anymore because the people won't accept it.
And I wonder if that's a deal with what was the guy that Tadwick Boseman.
It was like he's supposed to play every black hero, strong, successful.
James Brown, Jackie Robinson.
Yeah, Jackie Robinson.
And it's like, if the people starts to view you as someone who is passing away from cancer, tragically, right?
Are they going to see that in the character?
Yeah.
And I wonder if he did it not so he could continue his career, but almost like, yo, I'm really passionate about acting and I want to continue to act.
And I don't want to put myself in a position where I can't.
Like this acting shit might be the thing keeping me alive.
Yeah, it might be.
He also wasn't a celebrity actor.
He wasn't like, you know, some celebrity, some actors really enjoyed the celebrity.
He didn't seem like that.
He didn't seem like he was out all the time doing fucking photo ops.
He seemed like the only time I saw Chadwick Boseman was when he was doing press for a movie or the movie.
I didn't see him out a ton.
Yeah, he was tired of doing that fucking cross shit.
Yeah, I damn it.
He's like, really, motherfucker?
Like, I'm not really Black Panther, dog.
I'm Shadow Bose, dude.
I'm all famous blacks.
Wakanda Forever.
And he's like, motherfucker, I don't got that long left.
I got two years left.
Wakanda Forever.
Oh, God.
You tell me forever, you motherfucker.
Dude, Odyssey is so impressive when people are saying Wakanda Forever and you know you're dying to be like, yeah, man, forever.
Ah, fuck.
Good for you, dude.
That's some noble shit.
Yeah, that's why he don't want to do that shit.
Yeah.
It's weird.
That gay leading man thing.
We don't do that with women.
I don't feel like.
Oh, if women go gay?
Yeah.
Like, if there's like a leading woman who's like, like, Meghan Fox or whatever in her prime, like, if she were to come out as gay, everyone would be like, all right.
Yeah.
Like, I don't think it would affect like our perception of her with like Ellen though that fucked Ellen, right?
Like, she stopped watching that show.
Yeah, in like the 90s.
Ah, you're saying now.
If a girl came out as full gay, we would.
If it's buy, no.
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah.
That buy shit is so funny.
A ton of them are that.
No.
What is that?
Like, a ton of famous actresses who are like attractive and things like that are bi.
Is Drew Barry more by?
Like, Cara Delavine is by.
Steph by, can I tell you about this bi shit?
Yo, please.
Be honest and nuanced.
Hey, can you explain bisexuality to him?
Bye.
Is white people not wanting to be accountable for white shit?
By is removing your whiteness.
And non-binary.
Yeah, non-binary too.
Non-binary is the easiest version, but bi as well.
Because like if you're if you're a bi girl, right?
Let's say I come out as bi.
Now I'm not accountable for white patriarchy at all.
Yeah.
I'm a minority class.
Yeah.
Right?
It's like there's a certain group of white people.
And when I say group, I don't mean like a small group.
I mean, it's like a certain like white ideology, which is like, yo, it's fucked up that I got to be accountable and responsible for all the fucked up things that white people have done.
Yeah.
Now, all white people are not doing these fucked up things, but the white people that are in power are responsible for the good things and the bad things.
Right?
Any group in power is responsible for both good and bad.
In India, Indians are in power.
There's a group that are responsible for both good and bad.
And those bad people are held accountable every single time.
If you're criticizing the government, you're criticizing whatever caste maybe it is, right?
I imagine, but I'm with you.
More or less on board?
I'm with you.
And this is with every culture.
So there are these white people who are like, I don't want to take on the guilt, right?
Women tried to do this as well, right?
White women were like, but I'm a white woman.
I'm a minority.
That's right.
And then all of a sudden they're starting to get the punches.
They sniffed that shit out.
Exactly.
But for a little bit, it was all y'all were on board.
I was never, but a lot of people were.
Yeah.
Minorities were like, yeah, that's right.
You also suffer oppression from white males.
Can I please have sex with you?
Yeah.
100%.
So now I think what you have is like, this is the white version of opting out.
And it's like, how do I dabble in another community, right?
In without doing really much.
So if I'm non-binary, if I'm bi, like if you're a white girl and you kiss a girl in college, you're bi.
You're bi.
You're part of the LGBTQ.
You're going to marry a man.
You're going to marry a fucking white guy who works for JP Morgan, right?
Who is part of the quote-unquote patriarchy of the problem.
But you don't have to take any of the accountability because you could talk about the struggle of being a non-binary or whatever it is or bisexual, whatever.
100%.
It's the easiest way to remove yourself from white accountability.
Also, there's no identity.
You can't.
You're not culturally.
You're not culturally appropriate.
You are the smoke, bro.
Yeah, yeah.
Come on.
You're a smoke machine.
I'm a smoke machine.
You jump out of your own stage on the infamous tour.
You're all smoke.
You're the villain lost, bro.
You are smoke.
It is what it is.
But you also can't be accused of cultural appropriation if you come out as bisexual.
There's no like, hey, you have to act this way.
You're not taking anybody else's struggle.
You get to act however you want to act.
And you don't have to worry about people being like, oh, that's fucked up that you're infringing on our business.
You also can't prove it.
Yeah.
You can't really prove it.
I can't come up to you and be like, yo, prove you're bi.
And you're like, that guy's hot.
Yeah.
I'm by now.
I'm by.
Yeah, like the Canadian Pocahontas you're going to talk about in a bit.
Yeah.
You can prove example.
You can prove how you can't prove you're not.
You're not 10% by.
We're not buying.
No.
Ah, bye.
And with Canadian Pocahontas, like, you got to fake care about Native Americans.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I ain't got time for all that.
Well, you got to.
If you're pretending to be a bad person, you fake care about cocks.
That's easier.
Yeah, you got one.
I got one.
Yeah, you don't have to be a man.
You love me.
My shit fire.
Yeah.
Are you playing it?
Hey, you bisexual, though.
I'm bisexual.
How much do you like your dick?
Be honest.
Say what?
I'm with you, bro.
Hey, I'm into girls.
That's heterosexual.
And I'm into me.
That's asexual.
No, what are you talking about?
That's not asexual.
Andrew, I'm asexual, daughter.
Ain't that asexual?
That's not asexual.
Come on, dude.
Hey, man, stop making me fit into your boxes.
He's an androsexual.
He's an androgynous sexual.
Yeah, that's what I'm into.
He's androgynous.
Wait a minute.
So back to what we're saying with this Pocahontas bitch, right?
So it just came out that this woman who was like the leader of like the fucking Native American Health Board or something like that in Canada, Barossa, I think is her name.
She just came out as a complete fraud.
She's not even Native American.
She's like Polish, Russian, and something else, incredibly white.
Like the whitest white shit.
She looking Native American.
She's pulling it off, though.
I'm behind.
Yeah, she does.
And that's what I imagine Native Americans look like.
Native Americans, I'm sorry, but that's what y'all look like to us.
Yeah.
Okay?
It is true.
Okay.
So she's out here, got the whole garb on.
I mean, really doing it.
Yeah.
And then she looks like the guy in Marvel that like they make like the holes.
They go like this.
Doctor Strange.
Yeah, Dr. Strange.
She's like, Dr. Strange.
You know, the motherfucker, Dr. Strange and the Asian dude, they go like this.
And then it's like a little portal.
Yeah, I love that fat Asian guy.
I tried to watch Shang Chi.
That's another one I watched.
How was that?
Oh, Ronnie Chang's in there.
Yo, Ronnie's great.
I literally just turned her on because Ronnie said, yeah, I got past Ronnie's part, and I was like, I'm good.
Yeah, you're the king of trying shit.
We were talking about that before.
You just try.
Hey, good for you.
You're trisexual, huh?
You're trisexual.
I'll try.
I'll try anything.
T-R-Y sexuals.
Can we just invent a thing for white people so they can opt out of whiteness of white responsibility?
Let's just invent a thing.
Bisexuality.
We did.
But they actually got to do something.
Non-binary is the best one.
Non-binary.
Because that's saying I'm not a man or a woman.
I use they, them pronouns.
But it's so cocky.
Yeah, but then you're you're part of the group.
Like if you're unless you're already a cuck if you want no accountability like you live this much better I don't know if it's much better But you lived a better life because you're white and the second you have to deal with any accountability because of that Yeah, you're like well I'm not actually I'm part of the LGBT community Are you when you walk into the bodega and you don't get followed around you're a struggle appropriator You appropriate struggle You don't like appropriation don't appropriate our struggle interesting These people are so dumb.
You can just flip all their own shit on them.
That's good.
It's all just a little bit of gymnastics.
That's all you got to do anytime they're offended if you just throw out the word privilege that it's like a fucking landmine.
They can't touch a sentence.
But but you're 100% right about that if they're being honest with themselves, but they're not being honest with themselves.
No.
Right?
And because they're not, they actually truly start to believe these things.
It's the same thing with going to outer space.
Yeah.
It's the same sociopathy, right?
It's like, I truly want to save humanity by doing my little pet project.
Yes.
Right?
No, you don't.
You just need a convenient reason to spend billions of dollars while people are starving to death.
Yeah.
Right?
And you're allowed to do that.
You made the billions of dollars.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, do whatever you want with your savings.
This is the same thing.
Yes.
They need that go for it.
You need a justification for your own.
I don't want to be accountable, so I'm going to force myself to believe I'm oppressed too.
I don't identify with any gender.
Who does?
We need to make a test for it.
Okay, go.
We need to do like a ancestry.com, but if you're non-binary, you're gay.
So that's what.
Like, we need to check.
Like, are you actually that?
Do you have gayness in your face?
Is it 20%?
Are you 50%?
Or are you just making it up?
Like Pocahontas?
I think that's what ancestry.com is too.
23andMe, all that shit.
Oh, yeah.
How do I opt out of whiteness?
Yeah, of course.
But we got to do that for everything.
23 and 23 and myself.
I don't believe any of their results.
I think they just throw in a little minority for everybody.
A little black, a little Indian.
Everybody's 10% or 2% African or whatever it is.
It's like, ain't we 100%?
Non-Binary Ancestry Tests00:03:21
Like, how far back does this go?
Yeah.
If this shit goes to our roots, it should all be African, right?
If that's where humanity started.
How does it know when to start?
And how does it know to go back only a couple hundred years?
Yeah, if it goes back one generation, you're American.
How does it know how many generations to go back?
This test is cap.
Yeah.
It is.
Like, how does it know when to go back?
Yeah.
If you trace it all back, aren't we all related?
The whole point of all just fucking our cousins.
Yes.
Yeah.
100%.
We're incesting out here, bro.
That's fire.
That porn category should be way more broad.
We're sesting, dog.
Yeah, we are sesting.
And there's nothing wrong with sestin.
You never say that while having sex?
Huh?
You never say that?
Like, Dirty Talking?
Like, yo, you like that cuz?
You like that?
You know how to say that?
She's like, what?
ASIS?
Yeah.
Yeah, you're my cousin.
You like that?
Yeah, I don't.
We have the video of the Native American girl talking.
Yeah, it's so funny.
So can you explain what this is?
So basically, she's giving her TEDx talk in Saskatchewan.
TEDx is fire, bro.
TEDx is so funny, dude.
It sounds a TEDx.
Do a background check.
First of all, mad easy to get a TEDx.
Yeah, that's a reality.
Did you not realize?
I did a TEDx, and it's so easy.
The producer of the thing was the guy who produced 441 productions.
They're like, hey, we're producing a thing.
Do you want to give a talk?
Fire.
And I'm sure they saw maybe like...
You were popping off at the time.
You're fine.
I got some shit going on.
But at the same time, they were just like, yeah, we'll just put you on.
So there's no rhyme or reason.
Now, my shit happened to blow up because I was Rogan and then people found me.
But there's been a couple.
There was one TEDx I saw where this dude like dresses like a knight, and he was like talking about like medieval shit and like walking around in like in a full night costume and just like making up stuff.
I was like, What is this?
Yeah, I remember when TED first came out, I believed everything they said.
And then certain people started getting TED Talks, and I was like, Oh, well, we're just having fun.
We're just having fun.
Who, who, who got it that you stopped believing in it?
Besides me, if that was the moment.
No, no, no.
I got friends with like fucking 4,000 followers on Instagram, and they're just like in a master's program.
And I'm like, okay, you're not.
I know you.
You don't do anything.
There's no innovation here.
Good for you.
I'm going to watch the speech because I support you, but I'm not going to listen to this shit.
The OG was just a TED Talk, and then TEDx was like the answer to be like more localized.
That's the satellite school.
Spin-off, dog.
That's Harvard Online.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Come on.
What up?
Come on, man.
It's a spin-off, dog.
Who wants it to have a spin-off?
Cheers, Ad Frazier.
Ted got TEDx.
Yeah.
There you go.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I got numbers.
Yeah, where's your TED Talk, though?
Yeah.
Talking all that shit.
I'm waiting for Big Ted.
Teddy?
I don't want TEDx.
Okay, so let's listen to this lying-ass bitch.
Now, I will clarify what she said is later when they called her out and some of her colleagues called her out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Haters doing all this work to help Native Americans.
These fucking Native Americans are like, no, we don't want your health.
That's the shit I do not get.
If she was using it to like do ads for fucking American apparel or something like that, probably not the right funnel.
But you know, Buffalo clothing company.
Yeah, Buffalo clothing.
Buffalo clothing.
But like, if she was like doing and profiting off of doing fucking Buffalo gap ads, like she was really profiting off of this identity.
She was doing like movies and stuff like that.
Native American Appropriation Issues00:03:50
But she's a fucking government job where she's trying to help Native Americans.
And if you know she's a fraud, shut your mouth.
Also, she's in Canada, right?
It's First Nations.
She's in, oh, whatever.
First Nations.
Come on, bro.
Come on.
Can't be disrespecting these people.
How do we even know that's first?
What are y'all first of?
I was actually talking about, but they were arrogant that y'all had to leave a nation to cross the ice bridge to even start your First Nation.
You're not even close to first.
You're one of the last nations.
Also, one of the tribes might have killed the actual First Nations.
Yeah.
So they might be second or third nations.
Yes.
One of the first things.
Oh, that's a better point.
You know what I mean?
That's a better point.
I was trying to follow that one, but I wasn't there.
That one makes sense.
My point that I'm trying to make is there were nations that existed before.
Yeah, but they're not saying they're the first nation.
They're saying they're the first in the nation.
They're the first people on this nation.
No, they're saying they're First Nations.
They're saying these are the First Nations here.
But I'm clarifying fam.
Don't be out here First Nationing.
Yeah, okay.
Do you know what I mean?
All right, that's like when white people put cornrows on the cover of Vogue, like a new trend.
Okay, they're Kardashians.
That's what they did.
They're Kardashians.
They call it Kardashians, Native Americans.
Yeah.
I was talking about it before where I was like, I think it's kind of foul that we call Native Americans Americans.
But if anybody could do cornrows, it's got to be Native Americans, right?
That's their shit.
Yeah, but you were kind of appropriating the cornrow from Native Americans.
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Okay, are we going to watch this?
My name's Morning Star Bear.
My name is Morning Starbear.
I'm just going to say I'm emotional.
I'm Derek Klan.
I'm anishinabi Metis from Treaty 4 Territory.
And I want to acknowledge the territory that I'm in, Treaty 6 territory, home to the Cree peoples and the homeland of the Métis Nation.
I also want to acknowledge my ancestors who are clearly here with me.
Oh my God.
Son, Canada's so bad at being liberal, dude.
I know.
They can't handle COVID lockdowns.
They make this bitch an indigenous spokesperson.
Indigenous Territory Acknowledgments00:12:25
How'd they find out?
They're scared of Jordan Peterson.
They just can't do any of it right.
Do you know how they found out that she was associate professor was suspicious and started doing some digging?
Hate it.
And that's when she came out with the I was adopted by some people from the Wimetis Nation or however you say.
And so I was so close to them that they felt like they were my real parents.
I was closer to them than my real parents.
Something like that.
And then I think people found out that shit wasn't even true.
I think it's just all a thing.
So that guy is a real Native American.
I called her out.
Because that's Native American intuition.
You're just hanging out with him.
You're like, yo, there's something off with your spirit.
Let me tell you, they're violent.
The group of people that don't have intuition is Native American.
That's a good point.
That's a point counterpoint.
Why?
So a white guy offers to buy your whole state for $5 and you're like, yeah, let's do it.
They got fucked over in the deal.
That's intuition.
You had intuition.
You don't trust the intuition to know that the boys were coming and they were about to lose everything.
Where's that intuition?
Where's the intuition?
I don't think these people have intuition.
They made a deal.
They're like, all right, yeah, you can have this land.
I'll give you this amount of money for it.
They're like, all right, bet.
And then they didn't hold up the other side of the deal.
Yeah, we did.
We gave them everything.
Why'd you say we?
Because I'm taking on all white things.
I'm not going to be like these fucking cucks that claim non-binary, so they have to take, remove all responsibility.
I am binary.
I am white.
Binary.
B-Y-E.
Yeah, actually, I'm not even both of them shits.
I'm just men.
You nary, dog.
I'm narry.
I'm just mono-ari.
Uninary.
I am men.
I am I, he.
What is it?
What is it called?
He, him.
He, him.
Yeah, I'm he, him.
I'm he, him.
That's how I'm gonna start introducing myself.
I am he.
What's up?
My name is Andrew.
He, him.
He, him.
Yeah, you gotta start with that.
That's fire.
Yeah.
I gotta go.
Yeah, we gotta bring back pronouns.
Yeah, it's right.
Yeah, absolutely.
Anyway, yeah, I don't know.
We've probably uh made fun of Native Americans in an inappropriate amount so far on this podcast.
But um, well, listen, wouldn't it be nice if there was somebody trying to help this group of people?
Somebody that was out there trying to make sure that they were healthy and they had all the supplies they needed to live a healthy life.
She's taking her job away from a real Native American who's trying to do that.
I agree with you.
Yeah, I know, I know.
Yeah, but don't you just want the best person to have the job?
This should be complete meritocracy.
If you're saving lives, whoever's the best, I don't give a fuck what color you are.
If you save the most indigenous lives, you got that shit.
100%.
But Native Americans will be like, oh, white people tried to solve the problem before.
No, they didn't.
No, you were the problem they were trying to solve before.
That's the issue.
They solved the problem too well before.
Honestly.
Not well enough if you think it is their point of view.
Yeah.
Yeah, I didn't really solve that problem at all.
What problem?
Eddie over here.
What problem?
You don't think that problem was solved?
Ain't even enough Native Americans to be a chancellor of health.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Sounds like problem solved to me.
Right or wrong?
Interesting.
What about that professor that found out, though?
She was in New York.
This bitch ain't Native American either, hating-ass bitch.
She was.
Right?
They just accused you of being Jewish.
Right?
How do you know if she is or isn't?
You don't know.
There's no rules anymore.
I'm Native American today.
But how do you know?
I'm Native American.
He identifies as.
I identify as Native American.
What is that?
You don't look Native American.
It doesn't matter if I look Native American.
He's Native New York.
Isn't that not Native American?
I'm Native American.
Oh, this is actually Native American land.
That's a good point.
I'm Native American.
I'm Iroquois.
Were they in New York?
Yeah.
Of course they were.
Fucking Iroquois.
They were the Iroquois.
Jamiroquois.
Jamiroquois.
Virtual Assembly.
I am Jamiroquis.
Nah, like whatever, dude.
Like, anybody's everything now.
There's no rules anymore.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, stop it with rules.
Iroquois actually from New York.
Of course they're from New York.
I know all the New York tribes, dude.
Give me another.
I smashed a girl that was Cree once.
And she ate my ass, hungry ass girl.
My ass is a quadopia.
That was it, Thanksgiving.
Hey, my boy.
Leo Rod.
Got some cranberries.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, but in all seriousness, I did do that.
And how was it?
Was it good?
And it was phenomenal.
I did it.
I saw that movie that Leonardo Caprio was in.
And I needed one for myself.
Yeah.
The Revenant, right?
The Revenant.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And your boy grabbed behind the knees stirrups.
You know what I mean?
Like that.
And then gobble, gobble.
You know what I mean?
Can we feast?
You know, we had a nice part of the Buffalo baby.
Choose every like that.
But I wasn't rotating because I wasn't on a rotating chair.
But I just grabbed the stirrups and it was gobble, gobble talk.
Wounded knees.
It was a real talk, dude.
It was, yeah, it was great.
Cree.
Cree.
Same tribe.
Yeah, how did that come up?
You asked?
Who?
You asked her?
What tribe?
What a girl?
Yeah.
Yeah, of course.
She says she was Cree.
She says she was Cree.
It was Mountain Bear something.
What was her name?
It might have been her, to be honest with you.
I think it was that girl.
I think Catherine Barroso ate my ass.
100%.
Actually, that's the saddest thing to find out that the girl that ate my ass, Catherine Barroso, was actually not a true Native American.
That's fucked up, though.
I know.
Yo, you've been betrayed.
I have been betrayed.
You need to be made whole again.
How can I be made whole?
You get somebody in that hole again.
That was some wordplay right there.
I need to realize that I don't need anybody else.
I think that's what I do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're asexual.
I'm asexual.
I'm Amran.
I think I need to get into my Ameran books.
And I need to learn about myself and I need to feel empowered.
Realize that I can achieve anything.
I've been watching David Goggins walk for no fucking reason for the last month.
And it's inspiring to me.
Because you got to go and get it every single day, even if you have chin splints.
What's a chin splint?
Say what?
What's a chin splint?
That's what that motherfucker is saying.
They tortured some Asians back in the day.
Wait, guys.
Everybody needs to be.
Y'all clearly haven't seen Shang Shui or Zhang, whatever the fuck that name is.
Who?
Feng Shui.
No, Shang Chi.
Shang Chi.
Yeah.
It's a movie by Marvel.
Oh, I haven't seen it.
Yeah, trying to pander to the Asian audience.
Yeah, that's that's shit.
No, no, no.
They tried to pander to him?
They did.
They tried to pander to the Haitian book.
They couldn't get a release in.
But they couldn't get the release in China.
Jokes on you, Marvel.
It's hilarious.
Jokes on you.
Yeah, you just got to make a movie.
What was that movie about America getting destroyed?
And it's like the highest-grossing movie in China.
The highest grossing film ever in China is about the U.S. Army getting defeated by Chinese troops.
I bet you the highest-grossing movie of all time in America.
Yeah, was some Russian guy getting murdered or some shit.
Yeah, 100%.
Rocky or whatever.
I mean, Gone with the Wind.
Yeah, I think it's Gone with the Wind.
Exactly.
I don't know shit about Gone with the Wind.
What is going on with it?
No, I think I know that one.
That's a Native American movie.
I'm pretty sure.
She's just Native American.
That's when that guy falls in love with it.
Miles, you've seen it.
Avatar, they're saying, is like the most worldwide gross.
That's a Native American ass movie.
That's a Native American movie.
That's a Native American movie, but that's worldwide.
That's cock shit.
It's so cocky, dude.
Yeah.
That's a fucking avatar.
You're hurting our nature.
Give me your braid and braid up to me so you can feel and I feel.
We should have shot them all in the head.
Every single one of them.
Just showed up.
Avatars or avatars right to the skull.
Which side do you think he was on in that movie?
Son, he loves that movie.
He loved that fucking movie.
That shit was far off that movie.
Yeah, whoever made it.
Andrew loved it.
He saw it twice.
James Cameron.
He's going to be making some fire movies.
He does.
I let you come here and get these kibbles and bits.
Grab the knees.
He's got two more coming out, right?
Wait, avatars?
Yeah.
No, you don't need more than that.
It's been too long.
No, He needs to run.
Titanic back.
He needs to run Titanic back.
What's the sequel for Titanic?
Titanic Part 2.
How does it go missing again?
Come on, Mark.
Come on, Mark.
How do you make the movie again?
Son, no, you do a different time where the boat didn't get all the way.
Son, Terminator, he died, got fucking crushed.
They came out with a second one of those.
Exactly.
Do we really know where to go?
Maybe he told me.
He was over her, went down deep, held another boat.
Oh, and then it's cast away.
He just went swimming, yo.
Then we just do Castaway and it starts.
Well, then we do endurance, the movie.
Oh, that movie would be fire.
Mark got fucking so tricked.
It's crazy.
How did I get tricked?
Mark has been reading this movie.
What is this called again?
It's called the book, bro.
Whatever.
Book, whatever.
I don't know.
This movie with words.
His word movie.
He's reading this word document.
No, he's been reading this book about motherfuckers who wanted to go across Antarctic.
Draft dodging ass bitches.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Yeah.
It takes place in what year, Mark?
1915.
1915.
Yeah.
Okay.
What also was taking place at this time?
Some would suggest World War I. World War I.
It's a great war.
Yeah.
Okay.
And these motherfuckers went on a little trip to go walk across Antarctica.
Yeah.
Just the David Goggins of their time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just walking in extreme climates.
Which that book is.
David Goggins would have made it way quicker.
They didn't even make it.
Son, do we want to ruin it?
I mean, yeah.
I don't think I'm going to read this Word movie ever.
Well, I'm going to keep it a buck.
Yeah.
In order for this to be written, someone needs to make it.
Okay.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because otherwise, we wouldn't know what to say.
I bet the guy who wrote it went home and let everybody else die.
And then he was like, I'm going to just write some shit.
It could be Blair Witch.
It could be Blair Witch.
That's true.
It could be Blair Witch.
There's only one good thing about the whole book.
And that is.
He didn't read the book.
I read it, Mark.
You tried it.
I read the book.
He watched the movie.
Didn't you hear it?
I made you tell me, they gave him his synopsis of every single chapter after you read.
So I've read it too.
I've went through it with you.
Okay.
Captain Shicklecock or whatever his name is.
What's his name?
Yeah, Shipleton.
What is his name?
Shackleton.
Captain Shackleton.
Yeah.
So Captain Shackleton, he's doing everything he can possibly do to not defeat the evil that is Germany because that's really what it is.
The guy's a fucking Nazi.
Captain Schickletex is a Nazi.
I think he was Scottish.
Oh, curveball.
Wow.
Don't let one bad apple ruin the bunch.
That's a good point.
Okay.
Sometimes Scottish people can be bad.
Yeah.
All right.
Just like William Wallace, a fucking traitor.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
He wasn't a traitor.
He was a traitor.
Hey, hey, we fought for what we wanted to fight for.
He was a traitor, though.
I'm just saying.
He wasn't a traitor.
Guy was treacherous.
He overthrew the British government.
Yeah, but that's good.
Do you know what I mean?
Sometimes you have to fight for what you believe in.
Sometimes you have to fight for what's right.
And you have to do anything at any cost.
You would know nothing about it because you support Modi.
I support the farmers.
And what happened?
The farmers won.
How do you like that?
What happened?
They got Modi to bend over, grab them, and hear it.
Yeah, Modi sucks.
Modi grabbed his ankles.
Why?
Because of the great Punjabi people of Punjabi.
Okay?
Thank you for pronouncing it correctly.
Yes, I will pronounce it correctly.
Gully Gully.
Shorhe.
Modi.
Modi Chor.
Jorge.
Okay.
Okay?
You never get a good performing India off that.
Says who.
Say, oh boy, just wait.
Says who?
Just wait.
I'll go to India and perform right now.
Yeah.
You're not going to talk shit on Modi.
I'm not going to talk shit about Modi.
Modi the goat.
Probably the greatest president in the history of India.
Is he a president?
Yeah, he's prime minister.
Or prime minister.
Yeah.
What a stupid term.
Prime Minister.
Why did it got to be different?
It's president.
Europe, cut that shit out.
Canada, cut that shit out.
Everybody that's prime minister, you're a president.
It's president.
Yeah, why didn't Wilde?
What is that?
Wait, did we?
Are we the ones that are going to be?
I think so, because the king is president like the Fahrenheit of probably.
No, no, no, but I think.
Oh, no, I thought this through just as you were saying it.
They were kings and queens and monarchs and shit that we were rebelling against.
We weren't rebelling against a prime minister.
So they didn't have a prime minister at the time.
They didn't have that government.
Oh, then we have president first.
And then we have a different government is Fahrenheit.
Oh, my God.
Pathetic.
Customary ass government.
Get the fuck out of here, bro.
President, dog.
That shit is president.
We the metrics of this bitch.
That's it.
I was trying to think of the word metric.
That's the metric by which all this shit is.
I didn't even put that together.
Don't think out loud ever again.
Nah, please don't think out loud.
I put some ill shit together, dog.
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Please.
I put some ill shit together.
God forbid.
Okay.
Keep talking about your Scottish Nazi sympathizer.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
I'm just saying.
You're saying I got tricked, which I don't know.
You got tricked.
He was like, oh, my God, they endured all this shit.
They didn't do anything.
They just went to a nice fucking island and they needed an excuse not to be in the war.
They conveniently got back right when the war was over, right?
Yeah, and then the guy joined the army.
Yeah.
He's out of the war.
He has to.
If he doesn't join the army right after, they're going to say he's a traitor.
He left during times of war, right?
He has to join.
And the war is over.
There's no army.
Hello.
What are you doing?
Just having barbecues in that army?
It wasn't over.
It was two years later.
The war is still in the, he was still in the thick of it.
No, was it really in the thick of it?
Yeah, he came back in like, what, 17, 1917?
Hmm.
It was still happening.
End of the war.
Came for the easy part, motherfucker.
Yeah.
My man came and showed up after intermission.
What are we doing?
Don't worry about it.
But it is kind of fucked up because they had to, like, if the journey is true, it was a crazy journey.
Like, and if the journey is true, which I think is cap because nobody's going to push back.
And you need to act like you went through some real shit because you can't be like, yo, I was on a boat ride for two years while you guys were in trenches shooting a fucking journey.
The sketchy part is that he sold all the rights to like the book before he went on the journey.
Like that's how you made your money back in the days and explore.
You'd be like, all right, I'm going to go on this journey in order to finance the trip.
When I come back, I'm going to do the speech at your school.
I'm going to go get my research to you guys.
I'm going to do the book with you.
And then you pay me before.
And then those people finance the publisher and shit.
So I'm like, that's the only sketchy part.
It's already paid for.
You got to come back with a story.
Yeah, it might not have been that interesting.
But then I'm like, that's every adventure.
But then if he fictitiously came up with a bunch of ill shit, I give him credit for that too.
Yeah, because, yeah, history's written by the winners, right?
He won.
And, breast, if you write some good ass fiction, that's fine.
Yeah.
J.K. Rowling, the goat.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Good fiction.
It's plausible.
He used lies to tell the truth.
Oh.
That's important.
That's a good rationale anytime you're lying about some shit.
Ooh.
Yeah.
Ooh, that is interesting.
Okay, talking about lies to tell the truth, what are we going to do about the crime epidemic in Los Angeles?
And by the crime epidemic, I really mean Seth Rogan and YouTube's own Casey Neistat going at it on Twitter.
Have you seen this?
Yes.
Okay.
They have a nice little Twitter back and forth.
We can pop a picture up and show that.
It actually is kind of friendly.
It's not antagonistic really in any way.
I think that if you're someone who's from Los Angeles, we have someone from Los Angeles here.
Both of them are clear living in Los Angeles.
Casey used to live in New York.
Obviously, that's when he was doing all these amazing vlogs and really like making vlogging a lifestyle for people.
All these people who are vlogging right now are doing it because of Casey.
Casey started vlogging.
He did the vlog every single day.
I mean, it was unbelievable what he did.
So if you hate vlogs, you blame Casey Neistat.
If you love them, then you should thank him.
But he revolutionized a form of storytelling on YouTube.
Yeah.
And he was exceptionalized.
So he basically, his kid's car got broken into in LA.
He tweets out.
I'm hoping we can get.
I think his car got broken into, and he had stuff for his daughter's birthday.
I think is what he was saying.
That's what I think.
I'm not mistaken.
Mark's pulling it up right now.
So basically, so our cars got robbed this morning because Los Angeles is a crime-riddled third world shithole of a city.
But tremendous appreciation and gratitude to the hardworking officers of the LAPD West LA who not only arrested the motherfuckers, but they got all of our stolen goods back.
Okay.
Now that is what Casey said.
Now, what's his face?
Seth Rogan responds.
He goes, dude, I've lived here for 20 years.
You're nuts.
Ha ha.
It's lovely here.
Don't leave anything valuable in it, meaning the car.
It's called Living in a Big City.
And then Casey goes, I can be mad though, right?
I feel so violated.
And Seth goes, you can be mad, but I guess I don't personally view my car as an extension of myself.
And I've never really felt violated any of the 15 or so times my car was broken into.
Once a guy accidentally left a cool knife in my car, so it keeps happening.
You might get a little treat.
And Casey goes, I didn't get any treats.
He just took the decorations for my daughter's seventh birthday and left bloody handprints.
Serious question.
How did your car get broken into 15 times?
And he goes, I lived in West Hollywood for 20 years and parked on the street.
Also, sucks that your shit was stolen, but LA is not some shithole as far as big cities go.
It has a lot going for it.
Okay.
Couple things going on right now.
I think right-wing folks need a new Chrissy Teigen.
And unfortunately for Seth, he tweets enough with the opinions that he has where he's about to be that.
And I don't know if Seth realizes it, but they're making him that.
He seems to be tweeting on any big cultural moments.
He seems to be sharing an opinion and having it.
He might be high making fucking places to roll your weed up and sell them on the internet thinking he don't give a fuck, you know, making movies, doing this kind of stuff.
But what's going to happen is right-wing people need a right-wing Twitter, need a Hollywood celeb to hate.
And he shares all the opinions of the people they like to hate.
And he engages with people he goes back and forth.
And he's getting tons of positive feedback too.
So I'm sure all of his friends that are in Hollywood are like, yeah, tell him our city's not that bad, et cetera.
That's what I did.
Like to make the argument for him, when I was on Rogan and Rogan was like, New York is whack.
I was like, no, it's not fucking great.
I would defend my city too.
People were saying New York is falling apart.
And I was like, bro, this is New York.
Like, this is kind of what it looks like.
Now, I also understand Casey, which he sees frustration in getting his car broken into.
He also probably sees LA, the landscape of LA, looking a little bit differently post-pandemic and even during the pandemic.
We see all these videos popping out of people getting robbed while they're eating.
You know, very casual robberies.
Like, if this is the way to get rid of the, you know, eating in the street thing, then that's the perfect way to do it.
You know, like, if that's how the city wanted to shut down outdoor dining, like, you know, New York, they gave the ability to have all the people in the street.
Like, the way to do it is just have a few videos of people just getting robbed for their watches while they're eating a fucking smoothie or something like that.
I'm eating this.
All right.
Here's a video right here.
We'll play it.
Um, now, this is 100% a setup, like 100% this is set up, but whatever.
We'll talk about that later.
So, he just pulls up with the gun with the extendo clip, I think.
And yeah, he got the extendo clip, and then he just takes both their watches, they go back to eating, and then they're out of there.
And these people at this table don't even know.
Nobody has a fucking it's inside.
Oh, yeah, they went inside.
Wow, that's that's wild.
Anyway, point being is that I think Seth is about to become this next version, right?
So, he should be very careful about that because you know what?
Young conservative kids like his movies too, they like that humor, yeah, right?
So, I don't think that he wants to become this like very polarizing political figure when he probably doesn't even care.
I don't know what he really cares about, but I'm sure he cares more about like making movies than he does like making arguments about whether LA has enough crime or doesn't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Also, this argument of like it's just life in a big city.
It's like, when does that stop?
It's like when people are just punching Asians in the head, is that it's life in a big city?
Yeah, what are they talking about?
Don't Asian is life and when they're beating up Jews and fucking a big city, people do the exact opposite when they talk about America's problems, they'll be like, America, there's like racism here and blah, blah, blah.
We're trying to get a bunch of America, man.
Just get used to it, man.
It's whatever, yeah, it's a very which I don't think should be the response.
It should be like, Oh, yeah, it's a great place, but we should try to improve it.
We can approve getting your shit stolen, yeah.
But I also understand people being defensive over a city that they live in that is being kind of used in a culture war to showcase that, like, defunding the police is bad and that Democrat-run cities are shitty, right?
And I guarantee you, I don't guarantee, but my suspicion is if Casey and Eistat did not compliment the police, Seth Rogan doesn't respond.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Just trashing the city, I think it's a combination of calling the city a shithole and complimenting the police because those tap into two things.
I think it's the city a shithole, and I also think he, the one tweet that I thought was telling when he was like, I guess I just don't view a car as an extension of myself.
Where a lot of people, you get your car broken into, they feel violated.
To him, it's like you leave a fucking jacket somewhere and someone steals it, or like you leave an umbrella somewhere and someone steals it.
It's like, all right, it's just a thing, you took it, that's fine.
Well, you get why you acting so fucking crazy about it, yeah, y'all insult my city because of a fucking car break, and who cares?
Yeah, you still got the car.
I think that's how he's saying people who fucking love cars and like that's my baby, every one of them be like, Yo, that's also having kids that think plays a role too, yeah, like if you get your shits broken into and they steal something that belongs to your kids that affects your kids, all of a sudden you're not dealing with your car, you're dealing with an extension of like your family and like letting them for your kids.
Say again, you let someone near your kids, yeah, exactly.
It psychologically fucks you up.
Whereas, if you don't have kids, it's like I don't have kids, someone broke in my car, be like, whatever.
And Casey also is a, I think, a fairly left dude.
Like, he was very vocally against Trump.
He said he voted for Biden in 2020.
Like, this is a guy that's not like some Republican spokesperson thanking the cops.
But their private, not private, their public conversation is being used in this culture.
Yes, yes, absolutely.
And I think that unfortunately for both of them, like, I don't know, Casey never seemed like the most political figure, but I'm not a big Casey fan, so I don't know.
I don't really know.
I know he had one blog that he said, like, he said it the wrong way, but he was very like, if you are voting for Trump, you are co-signing racism misogyny, blah, blah, blah.
Right.
He said some shit like that.
He was pretty.
So they probably agree on political shit.
Yeah.
So I think Casey's trying to be objective, going like, yo, I've lived here.
The shit, the city looks worse than it did.
Yep.
We should probably do something to change it.
And here's a person.
I mean, Dove, you're from LA.
You've experienced LA.
Absolutely different in the last few years.
Absolutely.
Notably.
And it's on both sides.
So before they were like, okay, the homeless population, that's growing.
The police aren't really policing that.
The pandemic kind of pushed that forward.
The voting in of this district attorney, which for folks that want to know what really changes your city makeup, he was also the DA of San Francisco, George Piece of fucking garbage gaskon.
Go fuck your own face.
He came to LA.
I mean, won't prosecute people in the same way.
And I mean, like, I'm all for drug crimes, things like that, or, you know, misdemeanors in that sense.
But when it comes to crimes and knowing that you can get away with shit, it's open season.
So, in other words, like violent crimes are not getting prosecuted the same.
So you're saying, I don't know if that is that what you're saying.
No, violent.
He's against that.
He wants a different type of reform.
He's really dubbish.
So the prosecution of a specific crime, if you're believing what Dove is saying, would either promote or inhibit you doing that crime if you were a criminal.
In other words, right now you see a lot of these videos of people running into a CVS.
So they run into a Walgreens and they take a bunch of things.
I think that's basically because all crime under $900, all theft, is you get a citation.
It's not looked at as a felony.
And he's been an advocate against cash bail.
So people that commit something, I mean, they're just out right away instead of like holding them.
And I mean, a lot of these offenders, you're hearing stories like committing five crimes in a week.
Yeah.
You just know they're going to be out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I guess, yeah.
So I guess that's frustrating.
And then I listen, I'm not going to be somebody who sits here and goes, yeah, I understand how a district attorney affects the city.
I have no fucking clue.
Yeah.
But I do understand how the penalty for an illegal, for an illegal activity could change my willingness to do it.
Right.
Given I really needed something.
Right.
For example, let's say I need $500 to make rent.
Right.
And I could steal $500 worth of shit from Walgreens that I could resell, or I could rob someone on the street.
Robins on the street.
That's different.
Yeah.
I might go to jail for that.
But if I know all I got to do is pay a citation for stealing this shit from Walgreens.
And they're not going to go against you.
You try to rob someone.
They might fight you.
They could kill you.
They could have a knife.
Yeah.
Go on to CVS and you could just walk out.
And it's easy to not feel bad for CVS.
It's easy to be like, I'm robbing a fucking billion-dollar corporation, not some guy going to his job.
Who cares?
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I'm listening.
I'm like, yeah, that's why those videos, I think we were talking about this yesterday a little bit, but that's why those videos of people getting like robbed while they're eating.
That's why those videos are so profound.
Like, because when you see someone rob a Louis Vuitton store, there's part of you that's also like, man, fuck Louis Vuitton.
Yeah.
I don't see myself as Louis Vuitton.
Yeah, like, no, you're too expensive for me.
I can't afford you.
Fuck you.
Yeah, it's on some Robin Hood shit.
It's like, finally.
Steal from the rich.
I wish I had the balls to steal some Louis Vuitton.
Boom.
It's like a bank robber movie.
Like, I love living through that guy.
You eating a burger and fries.
A motherfucker comes up to you while you're on a date with your girl, takes your watch.
You're like, oh, shit.
That shit's emasculating, bro.
Yeah.
I like watches.
I like burgers and fries.
I got a girl.
Yep.
That might happen.
So Ann takes your girl's watch, too.
Yeah, it's like, you know, I paid for that.
Come on, yeah.
I'm robbing me twice watch.
I saw this.
I was like, bro, I can't go eating with this watch in LA.
I got to put on a fucking calculator.
What if someone wants my Apple watch?
What if they want, you know?
Yeah.
It could happen.
Yeah.
At any time.
They could just walk into Apple.
It's less than $900.
Just walk in Apple, take that shit right off the fucking couch.
What is it?
The counter or whatever it is?
What is it?
Yo, hey, real talk.
If you want a fucking iPhone 11, just go get that shit, bro.
Sprint out the store.
What are they going to do?
Yeah.
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Let's get back to this shit.
It's tricky.
I totally understand if you're someone from LA, you feel more affected by this, why you'd be upset and why you would rally to the people defending you, right?
The people that are out there going, yo, we need to do something about the crime.
Yo, we need to do something about the homeless.
Yo, we need to do something.
And then you see a guy like Seth Rogan, who probably lives, I would assume, in an area where he doesn't have to deal with as much of this stuff.
And he's just going, life is good.
Yeah, I don't blame his perspective either because he's insulated from it.
Yeah.
But you can blame him for not knowing.
Like, if you know for a fact, I think this is why there's so much resentment for the Hollywood elites, if you will, by like the right-wing Twitter brigade is because they're like, you benefit from all this shit we fight for.
Like, we don't want to pay a lot in taxes.
You don't.
You got these tax attorneys that are finding ways where you get to skip out on fucking taxes.
And then you're going to shit on us for saying we want lower taxes.
You're talking about the, I mean, this is almost like a hacky example.
You talk about the build the wall shit.
And it's just like, you have your little walls.
You know, you have your little walls that block off your fucking gated communities.
Those walls work for you, but you're going to shit on us and call us racists for wanting to build a wall.
I think there's another one about, I forget exactly what it was.
But the idea is like all the things that we get criticized, we, the right-wing motherfuckers, they're going, all the things we get criticized for, you actually profit from and you enable in your own lives.
So who the fuck are y'all to criticize us?
And I guess they would say, conversely, the things you advocate for, you don't got to deal with.
So like if you're advocating for like, oh, like open border, like no one's illegal, it's like, yo, you live in a place where it's all white people want to get.
Oh, it was the, it was the security thing.
It was like, yeah, we should defund the police.
And it's like, well, you have private security.
Yeah.
No one's touching you no matter what.
Yeah.
So the people that actually might need the police, now they're getting fucked.
You will never get fucked.
You'll never get touched.
So you can be this advocate for all these things that don't affect you in any way.
Right.
So it's like, shut your fucking mouth.
But I get their perspective because like they're living their life through their lens and they put themselves in this position where they worked hard and got all this money and they're able to afford all these luxuries.
They work hard.
Actors.
Maybe Seth Rogan.
Seth Rogan writes.
He writes and he proves that.
I give Seth Rogan credit.
If you write, if you direct, if you just act, you don't work hard.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's why not working.
Motherfucker, once he stopped dancing, that motherfucker stopped working.
When he was dancing in those movies, that's work.
Yeah.
Choreography.
Magic Mike, he was working.
W-E-R-K.
Put that motherfucker back on the pole, yo.
Yo.
I don't want to hear about this shit.
But if you put yourself in a position where you're insulated from life, it's like, yeah, I get why you have that perspective.
Like, you become out of touch because you put yourself out of touch because being in touch is hard.
But does being out of touch absolve you from criticism for your perspective?
Not necessarily.
Like, I empathize with it and I get it because I'm probably out of touch with the shit on a global level.
Yeah, of course we are.
So I'm like, I get it.
Like, I'm not really actively working to understand the.
I get it, but he can still be criticized.
And maybe that criticism will have him open his eyes and go, oh, shit, maybe there's something going on right here.
It's just a when you're chilling on your fucking massive, I don't know where he lives or how he lives, but it's easy if you're chilling in the hills on your estate and you have a pool and you're looking over the city and from above the city look all right.
Yeah.
You know, LA looks fine from above.
Yeah.
You know, it looks beautiful.
It looks like there's no crime going on.
At least the robberies are quiet now.
You know what I mean?
Like there's so.
Yeah.
I also think he caught some left-wing criticism for this too, because he was detached from society.
He's judging the struggles of everyday people.
That's the Chrissy Tegan thing.
And that's, yeah, that's the, I think this is the perfect Twitter story because it lets everybody be outraged.
Yeah.
Because if you're left or right, you can be outraged at Seth Rogan.
You're so out of touch.
And then if you're left, you can be outraged with Casey Neistat.
How can you call it a third world shithole?
That's too strong.
Some like feminist spokesperson came out and was like, the wording was too mean.
It's like, bro, he just got his car.
Yeah, you just got your car broken into, but still be PC.
Your daughter's seventh birthday is ruined, but you need to make sure you're not political.
You're not insensitive toward an inanimate object.
I had the who was it?
Who is it?
I got to keep the name private.
But they said their reaction was, you can't call it third world because the cops wouldn't come.
What do you mean, third world?
You got your shit back.
The cops ain't coming to help you, and you definitely ain't getting your first time.
That's second at least.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
But this is the most first world shit that the cops would actually arrest the people that stole your shit out of the car and you would get everything back.
That only happens exclusively in the nicest parts of the first world.
Yeah, or if you're rich in the third world.
So Casey Neistat might have got it anywhere.
Rich as fuck.
But that's it.
Everybody else, hey, I was going to arrest a guy, but he bribed me.
So what's going on?
You don't even get your kids back when they're stolen in the third world.
I don't know if you're getting your shit back.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's a maybe in the third world.
You get your kids stolen in Mexico, you better have the money.
Yeah, I'm not familiar with Latin American third world.
Talking about Asian American third world.
Yeah, yeah.
That's the thing.
They're going to know who took your shit.
Oh, if you're rich, you're taking care of.
You're fine.
We'll take care of you.
You're rich.
If you're politically connected, you're good.
Like, your life is good.
You're protected.
Even if you get robbed, they're going to get your stuff back.
I think so.
You probably got.
I think I stayed in a place with like armed guards outside.
Would people be less likely to rob from a rich person?
Because they go, oh, there's going to be hell to pay for this.
I can just rob from like a slightly richer person than me that doesn't have shit anyway.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And the cops don't give a fuck.
But yeah, I think the conservative reaction to this is to look at someone like Seth Rogan and be like, yo, this guy's a piece of shit.
Like, he hates the regular people.
He hates conservatives.
Like, blah, blah, blah.
I think that's unfair.
And I'm like, if you're in his spot, you probably think the same thing.
I don't think he's an evil person.
I just think he's out of touch.
Yeah, I think there's a little bit out of touch.
And I think there's also like an uber defensiveness.
Like, you ever have your girl criticize something that is true about your mom?
And you're like, yo, yo.
Yo, why are you saying that?
Yeah.
I agree, but why are you saying it?
Yeah, like, so, like, it could be something that is facts.
Like, my mom's Brussels sprouts are trash.
Yeah.
And her carrots were awful.
But just hearing my girl be like, yeah, like, I tried to pick up the carrot and the fork went right through it.
And I'm like, yo, yo, yo.
I'll ball my fists right now and keep talking about my mom's trash ass parents.
My mom's trash ass.
So I think there's a little bit of that.
Like that motherfucker lived there for a while, put the time in, sees everybody shitting on his city, just like how I felt with New York.
I was like, nah, I don't even care if motherfuckers get robbed non-stop.
That's New York.
Don't get robbed, stupid.
Also, if you went through it and you made it, you look at that guy like, shut the fuck up with your little complaining.
Like your parents who made it through tougher shit than you and wherever they're from, when you complain about like, shut the fuck up.
How many times this happened to me?
Yeah.
Stop it.
That's not an excuse.
You did do that with New York big time.
People were like, Rick Moranis just got punched on the upper west side.
Yo, check your back.
That raid was swept off.
Come on, Rick.
You know what I mean?
You got it too long, kid.
Real talk.
I did do that, man.
We always.
Now, if Rick Brerez got knocked out in LA, you'd be like, yo, what's wrong with this?
LA's falling apart.
LA is falling apart.
Now, isn't Seth Rogan from Vancouver or some shit?
He's kidding, yes.
Don't talk about Vancouver, bro.
You're a lot about that.
You're right.
You're wrong.
That's where I took down that cream.
International button munch.
That's all right.
Here, Daws.
You out here.
Okay, what else we got?
What else we got?
Skis.
What else we got?
You want to talk about Omicron?
Oh, yeah.
Son.
More.
Okay.
So we got a new variant coming from South Africa.
Yeah, brand new release just dropped.
And I feel bad for South Africa because it's called the South African variant.
It's the Omicron variant, but like it's known as the South African one.
And basically, Biden was like, yo, we got to shut down travel from South Africa.
They're being mad races.
Yeah.
This is why all those white Africans, bro.
Why would he do that?
But what is real fucked up about it is that South Africa is like, yo, yo, yo, we just, we just found it, yo.
Like, it ain't even ours.
Like, we was just the first ones.
It's like, whoever smelled it delta.
Yeah.
Like, that's them.
That's the perfect example of smelled the delta.
Like, the shit could come from Zimbabwe.
Yeah.
But since they don't have like the sophisticated viral technology over there, obviously because of AIDS in South Africa, they know about the virus shit like crazy.
There's like a lot of like money that's getting put into this.
So they were just the one to pick it up and now everybody's blaming them.
And low-key, I'm like, if I'm another country, I ain't seen nothing.
Like, this is the worst way to react to it.
I understand.
Obviously, you want to make sure that a new virus doesn't get into your country, shut shit down.
You always got to deal with the, what is it, people, the supply chain issues, blah, blah, blah.
Right?
Everybody wants to make sure the supply chain is fine.
But you are, what is it called?
Disincentivizing?
Disincentivizing.
You're punishing the people for doing the right thing.
Yes, you're disincentivizing these people that are doing the right thing.
Yeah.
Because they know if any new variant pops up anywhere, now that's on you.
Yeah.
But it could have been a motherfucker from China that went to South Africa.
We developed this whole system to not do that.
We had this whole fucking Delta, Omicron, whatever the fuck, Epsilon.
Yeah.
The whole naming system.
And then we just said, fuck it.
It's a South African strain.
It's the South African strain.
Haven't they been through enough?
And but the funniest thing.
The funniest thing about the South African shit is that they skipped over.
They skipped two.
They skipped over two letters.
Yeah.
Because they're doing it off of the Greek alphabet.
So what are the two letters that they skipped?
New.
New.
And Kai.
And Kai.
Now, new.
That's fire.
New strain.
It's the new strain.
They wanted to skip it because they thought it would make confusion with people being like, yo, the new strain.
And people are like, what?
It is the new strain.
No, for now.
Yeah, but it's not, but it's the new strain.
There's going to be a new strain later, and they're going to be like, oh, yeah, the new strain.
They'll be like, the new one, they'll be like, no, no, the old one that's called new.
And you're like, why is it called?
Skip that one.
And who's on first, motherfucker?
I understand that a little bit.
Yeah.
And you're talking about the World Health Organization.
A little bit of a woman.
Yeah.
Right?
Now, what is the letter after new?
Kai.
Now, Kai, how do you spell that?
It's not Kai.
It is Kai.
No, you were also an African and had to know this.
It's Xai.
It's Zai.
No, it's Kai.
We were in a fraternity called Kai Sai.
And it was spelled C-H-I.
Fuck.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Yeah.
No, that's Chi-Side.
Mind-blowing.
That's Chai.
It's Zai.
Are you sure it's Zai?
Yo, fraternity dudes are the smartest dudes in college, dude.
I thought, I'll be honest, you said Kai yesterday, and I was like, I guess it's Kai.
Don't put that on me.
You did.
You said Kai yesterday.
Don't do this again.
You did say Kai.
You said Kai on the Burt Massey.
You said Kai.
Bert Massey, the son of Bert Massey.
No.
Okay, so Xai is spelled XI.
Yeah.
The president or prime minister or whatever fucking fake position the dictator of China has is Ziji Ping.
Yeah.
Spelled Xi.
Now, they skip over this letter because they don't want it to be stigmatized.
Yeah, they don't want to agitate.
That was their literal answer.
They're like, we don't want to, we don't want to say we're fine with it being the South African.
Yeah, you're stigmatized South Africa instead of China.
I'm the CEO of Delta.
I'm like, what the fuck are we doing, bro?
Yeah.
Corona beer.
We've been stigmatizing this whole time.
We basically put Corona through the fucking, what is it called?
Bankruptcy.
Bankruptcy.
Corona was paying us to promote it.
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Yeah.
Remember when they gave us cases of coronavirus?
They're like, please just put it on Corona's got talent.
We'll do anything to get out of this thing.
They literally almost went bankrupt because we call it the coronavirus.
Yeah.
Okay.
Delta.
Same fucking thing.
Yeah.
We still wrote Delta.
Yeah.
But still, it's absolute bullshit.
And the second that they could agitate, China, Daddy.
Daddy immediately bends the fucking knee.
You know for a fact if Trump called the strain or the Trump's last name was some fucking letter of the Greek alphabet, they would have named that shit after him.
And he would have owned it too, probably.
100%.
Can I say another unfair thing that Trump did when Trump had a travel ban, everybody lost their fucking minds?
You can't, this is not enough to institute a travel ban for a whole country.
All right, fine.
This is a virus.
However, what we are seeing is the symptoms are very mild.
Very mild is what the South African doctor said.
And we're banning the whole country from traveling over very mild COVID.
Yeah.
I don't give a fuck.
So it seems like there's a conspiracy here.
And I want to get to Mark about this because we can get into the conspiracy corner and figure out exactly why we're making such a big deal about this.
But what I think, real quick, before we go there, what I think is very interesting is, and maybe this is part of the conspiracy.
And I tweeted about this the other day and got in whatever interesting reactions.
But I think what we're seeing is a very brilliant tactical play by China.
America has always used freedom internationally as a tool to weaken the control of tyrannical governments over their people.
We have freedom here.
We're like, yo, you guys deserve freedom.
You're not free, but you're humans.
You should be free.
Go watch this movie that shows how awesome freedom is.
Go watch these music videos that show how awesome freedom is.
You guys should be able to be free too.
You should be able to free wear whatever you want, do whatever you want, live however you want with your life.
You deserve freedom, right?
It's a great tool.
And it's a really great tool because anybody who sees freedom goes, I would like some of that.
Nobody ever goes, I want more rules.
No one sees a movie about North Korea and they're like, that seems fun.
Right.
I would like rules.
100%.
No one sees a fucking World War II movie and the Gestapo's showing up to your house.
You're like, that's awesome.
Someone checking on me.
Yeah.
Never once.
Freedom is so fucking tantalizing.
So, if our most powerful tool in the culture war is freedom, they have to find a way to handicap the freedom.
What if, what if, hypothetically, they leaned into and promoted the extremes of that freedom so that we would have to limit our own.
What do you mean?
You are free, for example, to be 75 different fucking genders.
Yeah.
You're free to identify as shoe.
You're basically saying like a psyop to use freedom against people.
And now you're going to force the American government to be like, you're not that free.
Yeah.
There's a limit to the freedom.
Right.
You don't go too far with this fucking freedom.
What if they continue to lean into the extremes of whatever the fuck that we want to do here?
And we should be able to do it because we're free, right?
To create that sort of that, I don't want to call it like there's like dissent, but this beef to continue to prop up this beef from different sides on both the extremes on what you should be able to say.
So you're saying they're propping up the arguments.
If I was them, I would.
Yeah.
Who benefits the most from it?
Us?
No.
We're fighting amongst ourselves.
We can't fight anybody else.
Yeah.
I would lean into anything.
I would lean into anything that causes some sort of discord.
Is that the word I'm looking for?
Dissonance.
Dissonance?
I think Discord is the word.
Whatever.
I would lean into anything I possibly could.
And essentially, what you're doing, if you're leaning into the woke side, which I'm sure they would, and you lean into the opposite of woke, whatever it is.
But if you lean into the woke side, right?
Like, think about that.
If I'm China, right?
And I'm going to use wokeness as a tool against America, that's brilliant.
Hey, I'm going to protect any criticism of China by calling it racist.
Hey, we call this the China virus.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
That's racist.
Yeah.
You could be stigmatized.
People are going to get beat up in the streets because of this.
And you do anything that you possibly can to eliminate any criticism of China, the country, by leaning into those people in America that are pushing this progressive agenda of, hey, we cannot do anything racist, words or violence.
If you are critical of China in any way, that could reflect on Chinese people that are here in America or Asians are here in America.
So let's stop that criticism entirely.
If there's a UK strain, by all means, criticize the UK.
If there's the South African strain, by all means, criticize it.
If there's an Indian strain, by all means, criticize that.
But any sort of Chinese criticism of the government could reflect poorly on Chinese people.
Therefore, we shouldn't do it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would think even another way to do it is if we are, if we're playing conspiracy theorists, if we're like addicted to freedom, we love freedom.
What if there's a virus that gets spread that the government is forced to limit everyone's freedom?
That would cause a lot of unrest.
If the mandates are you have to wear masks all the time, you have to get vaccinated.
You have to do this.
You have to do that.
It's so ingrained in our DNA to be free that a lot of people are going to be like, no, fuck that.
And then they have a problem.
You have used the freedom against America because they had to limit the freedom.
So now there's dissonance, I guess would be the better word, right?
Dissonance within the government.
Like, I fuck these guys, dude.
They're limiting my freedom.
They're my enemy now.
Because I can definitely see how I always thought it was like politicians who were beholden to daddy China.
We're like, hey, leaning into how dare Trump call it the China virus.
And then everyone else's like, who gives a fuck?
I got to make sure China's protected because we need them.
So that's what I thought it was.
And then that just kind of filtered in.
And I didn't see China leaning into it, but they could.
I just don't.
Yeah.
Anytime you're critical of China, I mean, low-key, this is done with Jews in Israel.
It's like anytime there's a criticism of Israel, it often gets turned into anti-Semitism.
Now, are there people who are critical of Israel that are anti-Semitic?
Absolutely.
You might even make the case that it's 95%, maybe 99.
You can make that case.
But there is also a percentage of people like the Israelis that are critical of their own government.
They could have nothing to do with Israel-Palestine.
It could literally just be like, yo, the fucking taxes in Israel are crazy high.
Like when I was there, that's what they're saying.
The taxes are crazy high, right?
Are they anti-Semitic?
Of course not.
But when it's tied in, now all of a sudden you have to be really careful about what you criticize about the country because you could become hateful as well through it.
I think if we're criticizing China and the way they handle COVID, I think that it's completely reasonable.
I don't think there's anything.
If you can't see the difference between the Chinese government and Chinese people, you're a fucking retard.
I can't.
You're an idiot.
You're an idiot.
It's the complete, as a matter of fact, the Chinese government does more shit to Chinese people than any fucking black guy on a subway.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
You want to talk about harm?
Chinese government harming mad Chinese people.
Fuck the Chinese government because I love Chinese people.
That's interesting.
Okay, Mark, give us the conspiracy theory about the Omicron variant.
So there's a few different ones that have been kind of percolating.
Basically, people are looking at it like, oh, they're just going to kick up any new strain to try to enact more government control.
So, like, the New York mayor basically said, we're going to do emergency orders because it's coming.
So, that basically gives the government locally and in different countries more rule, less restrictions.
They don't have to go through the same, you know, judicial and democratic process because it's an emergency.
And they're basically using this, like the old saying, don't let any good crisis go to waste.
They're using this thing, blowing it up bigger than it actually is to then get more control.
The other thing that people are saying is it's possible that once in America, at least, once the boosters are now available for everyone, basically stoking enough fear about the new variant to get boosters.
That I believe people are going to go get more boosters, make more money for the pharmaceutical companies that are then doing kickbacks with the media and with politicians.
Son, I believe in that.
That I believe.
I believe in that because literally someone close to Dove got COVID, even though they were vaxed.
Okay.
Their hubby also got COVID, even though they were vaxxed.
Bad COVID?
No.
Okay.
But they got it again.
Yeah.
So I jumped to the conclusion that this was the new one.
This is the Omicron.
Yeah.
I immediately told my parents, I was like, yo, y'all should get the booster.
Right.
Because I don't want my fucking parents to die because there's this new COVID that came around.
I didn't research it.
I didn't look at what the health minister said in South Africa.
It basically said it's mild symptoms.
Yeah.
Right.
Which is the suggestion for most viruses, like we've talked about before.
Like as it mutates, it becomes more transmittable, but less virulent.
So it doesn't kill all the hosts.
Right.
So basically, and I think it was you maybe when we were discussing this a little bit yesterday, was it you're saying like this is the perfect oh, yeah.
Dove said this yesterday.
He was brilliant.
He was like, yo, this is the perfect thing.
We go, what?
He goes, if there's a COVID that everybody gets, but it doesn't kill you like on some chicken pox shit, it's like, we're done.
Yeah.
Everybody gets it.
Everybody builds up the antibodies.
Whether you're vaccinated or not doesn't matter because you're going to have natural immunity after having it.
This is the perfect type of COVID.
Why are we stopping South Africa from bringing it over?
Run it.
Yeah, dude.
I do not care.
Honestly, if you haven't gotten COVID by now, you're probably a fucking loser.
You got no friends.
Fuck you.
Also, if you get it, it's like saying there's a new strain of runny nose.
I don't care.
If it don't kill me, I don't care.
It's the flu.
I ain't give a fuck about bird flu.
I ain't fuck about pig flu.
I don't give a fuck about bat flu.
I'm good.
And what made me suspicious with the booster shit was they were like, get your booster now.
And then I'm seeing news stories that Moderna and Pfizer will have boosters that are like prepared for the Omicron virus within three months.
Variant within three months.
So why would I get the booster now if in three months they're going to be ready for the variant?
It's just like, yo, no.
You know what I realize, man?
And this is where like, I wonder like what, how much blame you can give media, but when you start positioning, and this is also politician, but when you start positioning, this is the overreaction of politicians to new variants and the virus in general.
When you start positioning the COVID deaths as the responsibility of Trump, the next person in office or the governors of each state are going to feel accountable for those deaths.
So if it's not the virus killed 100,000, if Trump killed 100,000 by the way he handled the virus, now if you're Biden, you're like, oh, you're not going to put these bodies on me.
Shut down South Africa.
You know what I'm saying?
If you're the governor of California, governor of New York, you're like, oh, what?
I got the subway.
Everybody's in the subway.
Everybody's about to go to hang out with their family for Christmas.
You're not going to put these bodies on me.
When you start reporting the deaths as the responsibility of the politician in charge, this is the natural reaction.
And even blame them shits on the fucking virus.
Even beyond the virus, which is definitely true, but Trump in general is so radioactive.
Any similarity you have to Trump, you can't do that.
You can't be anything like Trump in any way.
So that's even more so.
Like, all right, let's shut everything down, but I don't care.
Yeah.
I do believe in the vaccine, but you don't got to give a fucking booster for Omicron.
Fuck that.
Yeah.
Fuck that.
As that point on that, no, it was, that's what the experts are saying that right now Delta is 90% of the world and it's deadly as other ones were.
So if this one becomes mild, so I'm not a doctor recommending anyone get COVID, but the virologists are saying they're cautiously optimistic that if the Omicron variant is less pathogenic but more transmissible, allowing Omicron replaced Delta, this would be positive.
I'm optimistic.
Cautiously is a word for pussies.
I'm optimistic.
If you haven't gotten COVID yet, you're a fucking loser.
Go get that Omicron.
You ain't got no fucking friends.
You ain't got no family to catch it from.
You a fucking loser unless you got autoimmune or some shit.
You got a valid reason that you got to be careful, be careful.
But if you're just some fucking cuck in a house, go get COVID.
What if you want to just get the booster?
Then you a cuck.
Why?
Why be a bad boy?
You will tell your parents to get the booster.
Yeah.
I want to get the booster yet.
At least let them prepare for fucking already.
If it's been eight months, I don't think you need a booster.
You got a booster?
No, my dad.
Yeah, yeah.
I would let my parents get a booster.
I don't think you need one in like eight months.
Wait a year at least.
Like, we're just going to do eight months, and then they're going to have this fucking medicine eventually that is like the antiviral pill that Merck has.
But the crazy thing is that they just still won't tell us what our natural immunity that we developed is worth.
Because they sell more vaccines this way.
That's just a thing that pisses me off.
Once that data comes out, that we were good the whole time.
Yeah.
But if people want to get the booster, I'm like, yeah, do whatever you want.
Yeah, do it.
You're just a cuck.
You're like a guy wearing a mask to order a salad for three minutes.
If a guy wants to wear a mask, I'm like, yeah, go wear a drink.
You're good, but you're a cuck.
Okay, maybe.
That's what I'm saying.
But I don't think that you're a cuck at a certain age.
All right, fine.
I think if you're our age getting the booster, you're a fucking cup.
Also, I don't know someone's disability.
No, that's, I was in a zone.
That's fine.
I don't know someone's disability.
So that's safe.
I'm not talking about people who are fucking crippled or whatever.
Yeah, pre-existing autoimmune.
You got any of that shit?
Be safe.
Normal, healthy people that are getting a booster.
Yeah, under 40.
Like that, getting a booster.
Come on, bro.
Like, what are you doing?
Like, that's some fucking loser.
Do you feel the same way about the flu shot?
I never have gotten a flu shot in my life.
But if someone under 40 gets a flu shot, you're a loser.
Get the flu.
All right.
Just get the flu.
You ever had the flu?
Say what?
You ever had the flu?
Dude, that shit is brutal.
Is it, though?
Yes.
I can't wait till he gets to.
You still say the flu is brutal while we're having a pandemic?
Flu?
Hey, real talk.
This is brutal.
Supply issues.
It's so brutal.
We talk about Jordan.
We go, man, Jordan's a goat for playing through the flu.
Is it brutal or is it hung over?
Nobody believes he really had the flu, dog.
Come on.
Because if he really had the flu, he wouldn't have been able to make it.
He wouldn't have been able to play that game.
He really had the flu.
Exactly.
Flule, regular flu, probably worse than regular COVID.
COVID just kills way more people when it gets bad.
It gets worse, but I think like an average COVID.
Let's be honest about COVID.
The reason it's an issue is the duration.
If it was a day or two, you'd be fine.
But this shit is 10 days.
Like, I was, how long were y'all out for COVID?
Yeah, I got it the least bad out of everybody I gave it to, which is kind of, I felt bad about that.
When I had COVID, it felt bad, but it was just forever.
I was like, fuck.
You mad tired for like five years.
I got emotional in that pool house after day six.
Like, you ever pull a muscle and you're just like, still?
Like, four days later, you want to just go work out.
You're like, still.
My hamstring is still fucked up.
I can't do shit.
That's COVID.
Every time I hurt my body, I'm shocked how long it's been.
Two weeks like this?
What's going on here?
So, yeah, I think that's the big issue.
Whatever.
COVID's done.
COVID's done.
I haven't worn a mask indoors anywhere.
Son, they made me do that shit at a restaurant.
So, like, which restaurant?
Sweet Greens.
And they took out indoor seating.
They're not at a restaurant.
They took out indoor seating so we can't eat.
I got to wear a mask to look at you for three minutes and order put a rugel in it.
No, but like I think when it comes to most places now, like just walking around going to store shopping that kind of shit, like nobody asked for a mask.
And I don't know if the policy changed.
Like maybe the policy changed in New York or something like that.
I know about it.
But literally, the other day, I was walking around, not a single request for a mask in any store that we went to or restaurant that we went to.
Well, there's no mandate for masks, I don't think, inside.
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There used to be.
New York City did.
New York City.
Every single place you go into.
Two de Blasio's credit.
Two de Blasio's credit when a lot of other people were doing mask mandates.
He was like, I do not want to do a mask mandate.
I just think more people should get vaxed, which is fine.
Get the vaccine wearing masks.
I don't know if that's crazy.
I don't vax anymore at these places.
Restaurants do because I think it's like part of the code.
But like any clothing store we walk into.
They can't enforce it.
Now, some cities, I think Chicago still had the mask mandate.
Honestly, if you have a mask mandate.
They don't have a vax mandate, I think.
If you have a mask mandate and a vax mandate.
They don't have vaccines in Chicago.
Crime should go up in your city.
If you have a vax mandate and a mask mandate, crime should go up in your city.
Why is that?
Because you're just forcing.
You're just daring motherfuckers to rob you.
Hey, Kay, come in, conceal your identity the entire time you're here.
Oh, oh, yeah.
Maybe as crime goes up, they'll have less mask mandates.
Maybe this is Republican ploy.
Maybe they're trying to get people to stop doing mask mandates and they're like, let's just rob motherfuckers with these masks on.
Yeah, Agent provocators.
They're robbing people.
Yeah, Asian provocators.
Yeah.
Asian provocators, bro.
I believe in Asian provocators for sure.
That's an agent.
That's an agent.
Yeah, that's what I said.
Asian provocators.
You don't say Asian, bro.
Come on.
I don't see this.
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And real quick, just to wrap up the whole like, you know, the media responsibility or whatever the fuck it is.
Like, I don't know if media has a responsibility.
I think they do, but maybe their responsibility is just to make money for their shareholders.
And we hold them to a higher, you know, level of integrity because they're supposed to deliver the new money.
No, I do.
I hold them to a higher.
You are a fucking news.
If you're, yeah.
Sure, sure.
It's like saying a hospital's primary responsibility is to deliver money for their shareholders.
No, you're a hospital.
You have a different responsibility.
We got to make money, but we also got to make people laugh.
That's true.
You're primarily.
That's like the point of America is like, yo, get your bread.
And I think as we get older, kids will have a different outlook on the news.
And they'll look at it like, here's the information for right-wing people.
Here's the information for left-wing people.
And I think that there really won't be a place for just the information.
And maybe there never was.
Maybe we just thought there was and it was kind of exposed.
We want to say, like, one thing Trump really did or the Trump era really did is kind of open our eyes to like what news was.
And I think Jon Stewart definitely started that when he started exposing Fox News, but we never really saw CNN be exposed as well.
And I think that that was like the equal and opposite reaction.
But a perfect example of this is like the way that the news is covering this like Wakasha guy.
Oh, yeah.
He drove the car intentionally into the people so he could murder them.
Yeah.
And he killed six of them.
Yeah.
And the way that the news has covered this is like it was the car's fault.
There's been all these tweets that were just like, and it's a really interesting way of like looking at what they're doing and like why they're doing it like this.
So it's a guy named Daryl Brooks, black dude, is out on bail from trying to run over his ex-girlfriend with the same car, has warrants for some maybe sex assault stuff in like Nevada or something like that.
Like that's just a bad fucking guy.
Probably dealing with mental health shit, right?
There's no reason why you're doing all this stuff.
It's fucking sad.
But what's really interesting is if this dude was a black Muslim guy, this is a terror attack, the way that the news were reported.
Right.
He's not Muslim, so it's not a terror.
If he's a white guy, it's a lone wolf mental health thing.
Yeah.
And then there would be people who be like, why aren't we calling this terrorism?
And then exactly, there'd be left-wing people going, why isn't this terrorism?
Just because it's a white guy.
The number one terror group in America is white males.
You'd have that whole conversation going around it.
It's a black dude who knowingly targeted a group of people and drove a fucking car into it, killing them.
People from eight years old to I think 91 years old.
It's really sad.
This guy fucked up.
He killed almost as many people as Travis Scott.
It's really fucked up.
Really fucked up.
He really did.
That Travis Scott thing, Travis Scott didn't drive the fucking car.
He just said, come here.
Yeah.
He just said, stop the ambulance.
I got a concert to do.
He had to hit the robot.
But like, it's just interesting to see how people are reacting to it.
And when it's a black dude, they really don't know what to put it in, what category to put it in.
So it's just like the car did it.
Yeah.
A van hit it.
Not guy targets group of people and runs.
I can't sensationalize this as easily.
Yes.
Is it possible that those, like, the way that the story's frame just makes less money?
You know what I mean?
Like, if it's a white dude that does it, and they're like, oh, we can antagonize white people and get white people riled up.
That'll give us more money.
If we can say it's like a Muslim thing, we can terrify people with this Muslim Islamophobia thing.
That'll make us more money.
Yeah, you said it just much more completely than I said it when I said they can't sensationalize it.
It's like we can't.
It's got to have legs.
People got to be able to sink their fucking teeth into it.
Right.
So if it's a white guy.
And they're like, our audience, are they going to want to click on a story of like lone black guy kills white people?
Like, I don't know if our audience wants to click that.
A woke audience is not going to want to click on the most sensational title is Black Man Attacks Christmas Parade with Christmas Fair or whatever the fuck it was.
It kills eight people.
The most sensational title for one specific side.
For the right wing.
Yeah.
Right.
But for the left wing, the left wing, some left-wing, like, woke mom doesn't want to read about that.
Yeah.
They want to imagine that this could never happen.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
This is such a tragedy.
You want to act like the steering went off.
Yeah.
Like when they report it like that, like the van, this is an accident.
Please be a Camry.
Please be a Camry.
Or Tesla.
Like something that was auto-drive and ran into people.
What a tragedy.
This is so horrible.
Right.
Right.
And of course, they're feeding their base, but I don't know.
Maybe it was reported differently with the right-wing outlets.
I didn't see.
Like, how did like Newsmax or whatever that one?
Well, I mean, they, I think they lean more into the racial element and then they talked about the silence from the left.
Of course.
Which is valid, yo.
That's valid.
The left has been silenced.
It's got killed eight people in a fucking car trying to enjoy.
Injured 60.
I didn't even know that.
I didn't even heard that.
That's wild.
These are people going to a fucking Christmas parade.
That's horrendous.
But then people on the left will talk about the right silence.
Hey, how many people died in the Boston marathon bombing?
I don't know, actually.
Probably more than eight, but if it's not, I got a great point.
If it's not, that was a fucking story.
They made movies about that.
Because they were Muslim.
Because they were Muslim.
And I guess a bomb is more sensational.
Three deaths.
A lot of body maiming.
Oh, I'm sure.
And in that sense, I'm not trying to measure whatever, but eight people died here, 60 people injured here.
Probably body maiming.
And nobody's talking about that.
Where's the fucking movie about that?
We're not even not a movie.
We're not talking about it.
I didn't know 60 people were injured until you said it.
And I'm a guy that's pretty outside of the news.
I'm not doing deep dives on anything unless we're talking about it on this podcast.
Yeah.
But they have a scapegoat for those things.
They're like, oh, Islam in America, what's the deal?
Islam is perfect because it gets both people in.
It allows the right wing to sink their teeth into it and the left wing to say, don't blame the religion.
Yeah.
And I also think this is obviously the overcorrection that we always talk about.
Like, there's been a history of like, oh, put the race of the guy.
Like, black guy does this, black guy kills that.
Yeah, sure.
That's they take the picture of Trayvon where he's holding the gun or whatever.
And then they're like, all right, let's overcorrect where we're not really going to talk about this uncomfortable thing that there is like maybe a racial element.
Because all the years that we've been stoking this racial fire because it got us clicks, now we're going to overcorrect.
It's like the news has white guilt.
They're like, man, we always put the worst examples of black people up for fucking 60 years.
Now we can't keep doing that.
Here's the thing.
They don't have white guilt.
They have no guilt about anything.
They just know that their viewers.
Viewers have white guilt.
And the viewers are not going to click on a story that they don't want to know to be true.
That's the fucked up thing.
It's we're clicking on things that confirm our beliefs.
What do we always say?
Like, people don't want information.
They want confirmation.
Right.
Islam is bad.
Tell me why.
Yeah.
Oh, this Muslim dude drove a car into people.
See?
Told you Islam was bad.
Right?
They're not, we're not educating ourselves about this, but this doesn't fit any of those things for CNN or for the Washington Post.
It doesn't fit any of those things.
So they have to talk about it, but how can we talk about it in a way that would satisfy our people?
Oh, this poor guy's a victim of his car being shitty.
Yeah.
The van did it.
Not this guy who was let out on bail.
Like it exposes so many things.
It exposes the bail system.
Like this like super, maybe that goes back to the DA thing that Doug was talking about.
But like I think the DA had even said like, let me not misquote, but it exposes a lot of issues with dealing with like repeat felons in general.
Like this guy should be locked up.
Now, I would say there's probably the inverse thing happening.
And I can't say this specifically.
I don't have an example, but I'm fairly confident that it probably exists in some sense.
Where let's say you have a cop that is known for having police brutality, but keeps on getting off, blah, blah, blah.
And then eventually he kills a black guy.
Obviously, CNN's going to pick that up and be like, yo, this is outrageous.
Our audience is going to love it.
And I imagine that right-wing outlets would be fairly silent on it.
100%.
Or if they talk about it, they wouldn't talk about the previous police brutality or they might try to cover it in some different ways.
I want it to be clear the way we're talking about it.
They're both full of both sides.
Exactly.
Full of shit.
We're just giving an example of the left being full of shit.
Yes.
Especially after the left stoked this conversation about Rittenhouse and literally convinced almost everybody that this kid was 100% guilty of killing They didn't say it, but black people if everybody thought Rittenhouse killed black people I did not know he killed white people exactly and they did that on purpose because what's more exciting?
Oh, 100%.
Little white kid goes to Black Lives Matter parade.
I keep calling them parade.
Black Right Parade.
Yeah, yeah.
Black Lives Matter march, and it kills three people.
You know for a fact they knew that they weren't black, but they were like, hey, should we say that they're white people?
Let's just not say it.
We'll cut some news out of the news.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I just think it's a sad state of like the media.
And like, it's not really, to me, really, like, a left or right issue.
It's just the state of media now.
Especially when it's like privatized and like pushed by like.
Yeah, it's not a left or right issue.
It's a state of media.
Yeah, but like the chicken, that's the chicken of the egg.
Like who creates this left or right?
To me, I don't think it's.
It's a self-feeding thing, I think.
Yeah.
Okay, but like, is it the media that's creating the identity of the left and the right?
Or are they feeding the identity of the left or right?
Feeding.
I think both.
I think it's a flywheel.
But they also create it.
I think they also are out there saying this is what you should believe in.
Oh, okay, seriously.
And these are the things you should care about.
And reinforcing the things that you might believe in and might care about.
And now all of a sudden that becomes your identity.
Yeah.
It's both.
There's all these conservatives that are against critical race theory.
Why?
They don't know what it is.
They're just like, I don't like it, but why is it even broad?
I've been told not to like it.
Because Fox News was like, yo, we can use this to stay.
They say white people are evil.
They say.
This is why.
This is why I think people have become, for a large part, apolitical now.
It's because the pandemic caused so much confusion.
With Trump, it was so easy to know what you liked and what you didn't like.
The decision was made for you.
If you're a left-wing person, whatever Trump said he supported, you push back on.
If you're a right-wing person, not all right-wing people, but if you're a Trump MAGA person, whatever Trump believed in, you found a way to defend it.
Okay?
It was so easy.
And because of that, we were all so political because it was so easy to be political.
You didn't have to do any research.
What did Trump say?
Oh, he likes that shit?
Man, fuck him.
I remember my friends just regurgitating things because they knew that there was safety behind it.
Yeah.
Because they had a guy that was so polarizing and whatever he believed in was bad and whatever he was against was good.
It was so easy to be involved in politics and people were involved in so many different things.
He had an opinion on everything.
He's gone.
Pandemic comes out.
All of a sudden, we're in fucking disarray.
Think about it.
Groups that are not supposed to agree on anything all of a sudden agree.
Black people and MAGA, they're supposed to be diametrically opposed.
What do they both agree on?
That vaccine is some fuck shit.
Right?
Yeah.
All of a sudden, you're starting to see different groups that do not get along ever kind of agreeing on shit.
How do we rap?
How do we adjust?
How do I feed them information?
How do I even talk about things?
Oh, critical race theory.
Who's this supposed to help?
Who's this supposed to support?
I don't have somebody to tell me to like it or not like it.
I'm done.
I'm checked out.
Remove me from it.
Fuck all that politics shit.
That's going to take too much research, too much information.
If I'm a liberal person and I want to tell you to get vaccinated, but I could offend black people by that, which is something I don't want to do as a liberal person.
You know what?
Zip, zip.
I'm out.
I'm done.
I'm not even involved in the conversation anymore.
And I think that's how you've seen like a de-politification or kind of a disinterest in politics of late.
Because we don't know where we should stand safely.
Stand safely.
Okay.
There was safety in just going, yeah, I agree with everything Trump says or I disagree with Trump.
Stand with your tribe.
It's very easy to stand with your tribe.
Now people don't even know what their tribe's supposed to like.
I'm liberal.
Should we get vaxxed?
Well, my black friends don't want to do it, and I'm supposed to support black people, or else I'm racist.
Fuck, I'm just going to be quiet.
Yeah.
And you think it's hard for the media to craft an identity, so that's why they stick to these stories?
The pandemic threw everything.
I think the media would have done written house regardless.
I just think people would have been very clear on where they stand based on where Trump stood.
I don't think the media has shifted a ton.
And I think the media is like drug dealers, where it's like, okay, these guys might be interested in this, but I'm just going to keep giving them stronger and stronger doses of that drug, which is liberal shit or conservative shit, and then just take them further and further away from everything.
Can you see how the pandemic has created situations that aren't as cut and dry?
Oh, absolutely.
And I think to your point, now that Trump is there or Trump is gone, we're like, sorry to interrupt, but like perfect example.
Like, don't tell us what to do with our bodies.
Yeah.
Right?
This is just repeat it.
If you're a liberal, just repeat that shit and you're right in any liberal circle.
I could do whatever I want with my body, right?
My body, my choice.
My body, government, don't tell me what to do with my body.
Right.
Every liberal will agree with you before 2020.
Is that when the pandemic started?
Right.
Before 2020, go, girl, yes.
Yeah.
We'd like you to take this vaccine.
Matter of fact, you need to take this vaccine.
Okay.
It's not your body your choice.
All right.
Now trying to poke holes in that.
Could you say the same thing 30, 40 years ago even about conservatives?
I hate big government.
The government's not going to tell me what to do.
I don't want government.
So even before this Trump shit, it was like, oh, but abortions, you can't.
You don't have control of your own body.
100%.
Yeah.
Censorship kind of flipped.
Censorship flipped so hard, dude.
We are the soccer moms we used to make fun of.
That's what liberals have become.
Yes.
I said we, I don't know why, but liberals have become the moms burning the M ⁇ M CDs that were like, yo, that's so fucking stupid.
Society, liberal society has become that.
So it has gotten a little bit more confusing.
You understand kind of where I'm talking about.
I was like, removing people from like their immediate in-person communities.
Like if you're dealing with people, like talking to people at church, talk to people at the grocery store, talk to people at your kids' baseball game, you're kind of realizing like, oh, yeah, most people are like kind of, you know, not super strong feeling about most issues.
And you kind of negotiate and be like, oh, yeah, I kind of disagree, but I still like you, like, whatever.
And then they're removed from that and sort of isolated into like much smaller little people.
You're inundated with those new, like, these opinions you agree with.
It's just fucking all extreme, sticky versions of them online.
Yeah.
All you're digesting.
I thought on top of that, you don't even know what's real on the internet.
Like, is this an actual person or is this just one guy with five accounts?
Is this like a Russian foreign agent coming in, telling me shit?
Chinese foreign agent coming in, telling me whatever.
Like, you have no idea even who you're talking to or what the opinion is.
It's easier just to remove yourself.
And also, there's going to be a little bit more of a regression to the mean in terms of like our lives are getting normal again.
Like, we have to understand the Trump era, followed by the pandemic era, was so fascinating because Trump was just like the pandemic in that like the entire world was experiencing the same thing at one time.
Canadians are protesting Trump.
English people are protesting Trump.
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It's like, get a life.
Yeah.
This got nothing to do with you, you fucking loser.
Sit back and enjoy the show.
Yeah.
Why are you getting you got a fucking Trump balloon?
Yeah.
London.
Don't y'all got some shit to figure out?
Aren't there still actual dictators?
Like I didn't see y'all protesting Edi Amin and I'm sure there's still dictators left on earth.
You cannot like Trump, but there's some fucking dictators out there.
It's like top 10 best people to run a country if you really want to go with all the people running countries.
Like probably wait, I'm just saying.
Think about it.
You know what I think?
How many countries there are in Europe?
Maybe not.
There's a couple here.
You know what I'm trying to say?
Like there's like how many decent countries that you could live in.
If you put him in the dictator column, he's probably.
Oh, dictator is number one.
Yeah, yeah.
You have to have a dictator.
That's the guy.
But yeah, I guess what we're trying to say is like there are many worse people that you could protest.
But what he did is he had so much fucking attention that no matter where he went, there was a protest about him.
The whole world was kind of experiencing him and whatever he believed or didn't believe in, they made their opinions based on that.
Everybody was reacting to Trump.
And we're like, this could never happen again.
There could never be one thing in the world this polarizing again.
Yeah.
Boom.
Pandemic.
The whole world experiencing the same exact thing.
And now you're inside.
So you get removed from that life that you were talking about, that interpersonal life that you had with other people.
Now we're going back to our normal lives.
The things that actually bother us are like crime in LA if I live in LA.
Yeah.
You know what's not bothering me?
Some shit that happened in Waukesha.
The average person is like, I don't even know what the fuck that is.
I just know that when I was out at Sweet Greens the other day, there was a dude walking around.
He had his hand in his pocket.
And I'm like, is this motherfucker about to put me on WorldStar?
Bother me while I'm eating my fucking salad?
Yeah.
Right?
Like, that is your actual life now.
You care about your life.
Yeah.
What's happening to you?
What are the things that affect you?
Now you have a fucking life again.
Of course, you're going to become a little bit less politically reactive.
Yeah, it's an interesting time.
It's like we're going back to normal.
And I forgot that there was a normal.
I forgot there was a time where motherfuckers didn't care about shit.
Well, it's interesting.
Trump did that at the end of the presidency during COVID, where he said, you know what?
It's all on the states now.
And then the states became the local government.
Now people started caring about that again.
And that kind of happened after he was like protecting himself.
Yeah.
He was like, y'all are going to fuck this up.
You're not going to put these bodies on me.
Yeah.
They did that.
They're like, 100,000 people have died under Trump's watch.
Yeah, right, yeah.
But 8,000 Michigan and 4,000 Florida, 10,000 Texas.
That's who dying.
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You want to talk about media coverage?
You want to talk about Ghale Maxwell?
Oh.
Okay.
Bust it down for us, Mark.
All right.
So basically, deal with this trial.
So basically, Ghalain Maxwell is her trial, is now starting.
Actually, I think it started today.
And she's basically getting tried in Brooklyn where she's being held.
Same place as Martha Stewart.
Yep.
Same place as old Martha.
And basically, she's being tried for her connection to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes against young children, where basically he was exploiting women and like he was recruiting.
Yeah, and using kids.
And she's not being charged with that.
It doesn't seem like.
She's being charged with just the recruitment and the grooming of the young girls that Epstein was then exploiting and quote-unquote trafficking.
Got you.
Now, I want to throw out a couple headlines, and hopefully you can offer some clarity.
It has been said, and a lot of news has been made out of the fact that this is not going to be a public trial and that they're not going to be streaming this anywhere.
Now, there's certain trials that you can watch.
Rittenhouse.
Rittenhouse, we could watch.
Yeah, OJ.
OJ, we could watch.
Why can we not watch Gillane?
On the surface, it looks like, yo, they're protecting these fucking pedophiles.
They're finding a way.
Why can we not?
So there's two things.
One, to my understanding, this is a federal case, and federal cases are not televised.
And Wisconsin allows you to televise a trial in the state of Wisconsin.
So Rittenhouse, you can watch it and live streaming.
And that was a statement.
And that was a statement.
It's not a federal case.
Federal, you cannot.
Gotcha.
And then the second piece is that there's a list of people who are.
And sorry, OJ was also a state trial.
The state of California.
And I'm sure you fucking love cameras in California.
And so my understanding also is that there's a, at least what some of the media companies are saying, is that they don't want to necessarily poison the jury by putting out too much information about the case at a federal level to then make it so that the jurors are not able to be selected.
I hope these motherfuckers are poisoned.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Poison the jury, what you're basically saying is not literally kill them, which we have to say now.
These motherfuckers be getting killed.
But like poison the jury in terms of like make them feel a certain way.
They have to be going to this.
Poison their judgment against her.
Exactly.
Which we should do.
Like, come on.
The bitch was fucking the kids, booming the kids.
She's a rapist.
She's a rapist, bro.
And probably might be some bodies.
Oh, I'm sure.
Allegedly.
Now, I don't know if she's actually getting tried.
I say, allegedly, for her.
Yeah.
Sometimes, take my allegedly out.
Bitch did it.
She's innocent.
For now.
Take my allegedly out.
Bitch did it.
I think she's innocent.
Bitch did it.
Hey, throw that button out the fucking window.
Bitch did it.
Innocent.
No, no, go on.
So, she, the first thing that happened was like, there's a bunch of like human rights attorneys in like Paris and New York that are basically fighting on her behalf, saying that she has like unfair and cruel conditions in prison.
Yeah.
So, like, she's having to sleep under fluorescent lights.
She's in solitary confinement.
And they're saying that it's cruel and unfair to do that to an innocent person.
Ooh.
So that was the first thing that came up.
Other people are like, bro, you're in prison.
Like, it's not as bad as the other prisons.
Like, there are prisoners in jail right now that are not convicted that are having a worse time than you.
Like, so suck it up.
Yeah, yeah.
But then they're pointing at like the American prison system.
They're like, how unfair is this prison system, blah, blah, blah.
And they're wrapping it up in that.
She also has, I think, pretty great attorneys.
Yeah, they're acting like she not gonna beat the case.
Yeah.
Why don't we just see where this money came from?
Like, follow money.
Like, if didn't she have these big-ass accounts, like 20 million, $10 million in them?
I think the last thing I heard is her net worth is valued right now, like on books, is like $22 million.
Okay, so where does the $22 million come from?
Like, you can figure that out.
Money has to get transferred to your bank account from where?
Let's just follow that money.
And if that money comes from a motherfucker that was at that island banging them kids, we need to ask you why he gave you 10 million.
Why did Prince Andrew give you $5 million?
Something that did happen.
I think her defense, based off what I understand, is that basically they're going to say that she, they're going to basically blame everything on Epstein.
They're going to point to the empty chair and be like, yo, this guy did everything.
She's actually a victim of Epstein.
That Epstein mentally manipulated her.
He was like gaslighting her.
He took her from her family, isolated her, blah, blah, blah.
Didn't let her have contact with the outside world.
The white woman defense.
And then basically that she was recruiting young girls and she was talking to women to have him work for Jeffrey Epstein, either as masseurs, which isn't illegal to get a girl that's like, hey, do you want to be a masseuse?
Either as nannies, which isn't illegal, to say, hey, do you want to be a nanny?
And basically bringing women in that she did not know was going to be sexually exploited.
So she was kidnapped as well.
Yeah.
Emotionally manipulated.
On top of not knowing what she was actually doing, she was also a victim.
And also, and you know, if she, if she only had some money to herself where she could leave this operation and, you know, not continue working for him, that would be pretty easy.
But then maybe she's afraid of being like killed, et cetera.
Yeah, I guess.
Jeffrey Epstein's a crazy guy.
He's a maniac.
He's a psychopath.
And he is the reason why she's in the position that she's in.
You're going to let her walk if you know if you think she has dirt on everybody and like a fucking, what do you call it?
Like a dead man switch or whatever they call it.
Then you got to let her walk.
That shit don't exist.
She's going to walk.
Dead man switch, such bullshit.
Everybody with dead man switch, nothing comes out, right?
Epstein got got ain't no dead man switch.
They got to the dead man's switch.
They switched that shit off.
How?
The dead man's switches, you die, it comes out.
That's what they were figuring out while they were torturing him in that cell.
Ah, bro.
This is.
And then they're also going to dispute what grooming is.
So they're going to say, you groomed these young girls.
You're going to be like, I talked to girls and hired them.
That's grooming.
I didn't know what he was doing.
I was a mentor to these women and now I'm grooming them.
There is an allegation that in the Epstein documentary, I think, on Netflix that one of the girls was saying she and Epstein raped me together.
Yeah.
So that's like a damage.
Yeah, that was Virginia Duffrey, who I don't think is actually involved in this current trial.
Virginia Guffray is the one that was with Prince Andrew, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I don't think she's one of the four defendants.
How the fuck not?
Or not defendants.
Yeah, I don't understand.
That's the big dog.
We're waiting for another trial.
Just try her for everything at once.
Yeah, I don't know how that works.
And that's the other thing that they can end up doing.
They could try her for specific things that she can't get off.
You know what I mean?
Like, we don't even know if this is something recent or this goes back to her time in like, what was it, West Palm or just Palm Beach.
Okay.
Right?
So, like, I think it's Palm Beach.
So this could be just Palm Beach.
Right.
And the accusations could be just Palm Beach.
And they could know that there's no proof of what she actually did in Palm Beach.
It could have nothing to do with like luring bitches into the fucking Upper East Side place that they got.
So we're looking at this going, oh yeah, Ghillane was with him throughout the entire time and they were guilty of like luring these women in and having these sex parties and yada yada yada.
They could be trying her for one year of shit that happened in Palm Beach, which is the most easy to, what is it?
Beat.
Which could be the most easy to beat.
Right.
They potentially could also be trying to extradite her to England where she's from originally.
But also like Epstein had a house in London where apparently some crimes occurred also.
So they might be trying to create a case against her to extradite her.
So there's like all these different things.
This isn't the internet when it comes to like this girl, yo.
Yeah.
She's walking in this girl.
She's walking.
She's walking.
She's walking, yo.
Possible.
Name a girl.
Like, how do we not know one girl who's going to stay on trial?
That's crazy.
Also.
We don't know one name.
I think they're trying to stay private.
But they already put out the video.
They were already talking in front of the camera.
I think only one or two of them have like gone public with their names.
The other two have like chosen to stay anonymous.
Oh, I remember the girl with the crazy teeth.
She crooked ass teeth.
You remember that girl?
Telling about escaping Epstein from the documentary?
Yes.
I don't know how many of those women are the actual defendants.
Why not?
Yeah, why not?
I don't care.
Why not?
You don't go on Netflix and say you got raped and then when it's time to deliver judgment to the rapists, you're not there.
Also, how are you going to find that shit?
How are you going to find jury members who are completely unfamiliar with this case?
Everybody poisoned.
We all got Netflix.
We all had it during the pandemic.
We watched everything.
Yo, I got a real question for y'all.
Do you think, okay, do you think the people that went to the island knew that they were underage?
Yes.
100%?
90%.
I'm sure you found out somewhere along the way.
Do you think that they knew that they were underage as much as someone who goes to like fucking Dominican Republic or Colombia for like bachelor parties and doesn't ask the age of the girls that show up?
Interesting.
I'm just saying, like, you hear all these stories of like girls that like, oh yeah, I started stripping when I was 17.
Like nobody at a strip club ever asked the girl who's tripping how old they are.
Now, I'm not trying to cap for the people that went to the islands.
What I am trying to do is understand intention.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So if like, I don't think Tiger Woods went.
If Malcolm Gladwell, one of these motherfuckers, goes to the island, is he going, oh, this is the kid fucking island?
I think if you've been there more than once, you've heard.
Also, if you're going post-2008 when Epstein was convicted of like molestation or like crimes against children, basically.
Yeah, And I can't assume that guy.
Yeah, 100%.
Accused of crimes against children?
We didn't know what time it is.
But prior to that.
Prior to that, there's plausible deniability, but I still think you probably found out somewhere.
I'm just saying, like, you never heard people saying they went to fucking Brazil and like, oh, the strip clubs are crazy.
It's like, are you IBing these bitches?
Yeah.
No, you're not.
Yeah.
Like, you hear these crazy stories.
But this is different.
You remember Obama started to count you.
We remember Obama's like security was in Brazil and they got caught going to the brothel or some shit?
I don't remember the Secret Service.
Secret Service.
They got caught going to the brothel.
It's like, you really think the Secret Service is IBing these Brazilian bitches?
You just assume a part of the institution.
But this is different.
The rules are different, fam.
It could be 16 there.
But this is, you all speak English.
You all talk.
You know where you're from.
You from America.
Let me just get reactions.
You're from America.
You know the rules 18 here.
Do you go by their rules over there?
If you choose to.
Like, I'm not saying it's ethical or not ethical, but like if you want to, if you're going to go to some other country, drink when it's 18, it's like, oh, it's illegal to drink in America when it's 21.
I was just saying.
Okay, go.
This is America is what I was going to say.
And if you're in Brazil, it's a whole different culture, a whole different language.
I don't know how to communicate with these people.
You're talking to American girls on Epstein Island for the most part.
You can communicate with these people.
If I'm having a conversation with a child, it's a lot easier to find out if we're having a conversation and this is a girl that speaks English.
Brazil, you're just like, this is all different.
I don't know what the fuck this she's saying.
She doesn't know what I'm saying.
I've never been in this country.
The whole culture is different.
I know there's strip clubs everywhere.
I don't know if they're vetting.
It's easier to find out when it's an American dude bringing you over to a place full of people.
It's easier to find out.
There's no question about that.
I just think that most people are willfully ignorant when they go to these places.
Very willfully.
They go to Brazil.
They go to Colombia.
They go to these places where, you know, you're going to go and there's girls, Cuba, Dominican Republic, where like there's just girls around.
Like, I don't know if they're asking for birthdays and that kind of stuff like that.
And I don't think that they're going there to fuck kids.
Jesus.
So it looks like the age of consent in Colombia is 14 years.
Boy.
Now, based on your rules, I know you're not saying this, but based on what someone could interpret, you're saying, well, yeah, that's what it's okay over there.
I don't think you believe it.
It violates my personal moral code, but like, and I think if someone does that, they're a scumbag.
But also, like, if they're not breaking laws, what are you going to do against them?
What I'm more talking about is the dudes that do, you know, their parties and shit.
They go over there and they're not even asking questions.
That could be 16-year-old fucking girls.
They're just lined up.
And they out here going, Epstein wasn't killed.
What is it?
Epstein piece of shit.
Epstein this.
It's like, fam, you're doing the same thing in Spanish.
I mean, like.
At the very least, I think guys in general are just ignorant, regardless of age, when they go to another country for sex tourism, that they're complicit in like sex trafficking.
Yeah, you just want to fuck some Colombians, yo.
I'm in Colombia.
I want to fuck some Latinas.
I think they know.
If you fly into fucking Palm Beach to fuck white girls, you know they're kids.
You know what I mean?
But they're going to an island.
Where is this island?
Full of white girls?
That's not.
Do you mean like?
I don't know.
To me, I don't think that white girls deserve to be fucked.
No, not at all.
Not at all.
But I'm saying if you're flying to, if you're going to whorehouses in Colombia, Brazil, it's like, yo, I'm just trying to fuck some Latin.
You already know you're doing something illegal.
If you're flying to an island to fuck a bunch of American girls, take race out of it.
Just American girls who speak English.
I'm probably on an island for a weird fucking reason.
Yeah.
There's whorehouses around me everywhere.
And I'm a powerful guy.
I could access some high-class bitches.
Yeah.
High-class whores.
So why am I going to this island with American girls?
I'm saying I don't think they really have plausible deniability.
Got you.
I got you.
I'm with you on that.
I'm just saying, like, there's this huge outrage about the island and the girls.
And it's disgusting.
And we should be outraged.
But we all know motherfuckers that go to places for sex tourism.
And we all know motherfuckers who are not asking ideas at these places.
Those people are disgusted by Epstein.
Yeah.
They are repulsed by him.
Think that he is a fucking monster while they are filling the pockets of the Hispanic version of Epstein in these places.
Fair enough.
All right.
That's the thing that I find a little peculiar.
Like, he's not the only one that got fucking teenagers banging adults.
Right.
So you're not as much trying to exonerate the people who went to Epstein Island.
Bill Clinton, what a disgusting piece of shit for fucking teenagers on an island.
Oh, when is your bachelor party?
Oh, where are we going?
Dominican Republic?
Yeah.
All right, bet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes, disgusting for fucking those young girls.
But there are people out here that should not be, that should not be calling him out for it.
Put it that way.
Right.
I think there's also a difference like being complicit in the sex trafficking and like doing the sex trafficking.
I think those people should get different jail sentences.
He's saying, I think, don't judge other motherfuckers.
You're judging Bill Clinton.
Who are you judging all these motherfuckers on the plane?
I thought you were more exonerating the guys who went to Epstein Island as opposed to accusing these guys of being hypocrites.
No, for me, it's always the hypocrisy.
Yeah.
And if I wasn't clear, my bad.
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But it's just like, you know, you bet, you know, you specifically went to places because it was easy to fuck these bitches.
Yep.
And you know, you're not asking the fucking price.
Yeah.
They also ask themselves, probably, like, they justify their own thing based off their own intention.
Like, this is like, you know, where they're like, oh, I'm going to South America to have sex with women.
And I don't care really what their ages are.
I'm not going to ID them, but I'm going there to have sex with women.
Whereas these people are going to the island to abuse kids.
That's true, but you are, to the point that stuck with me, is you are still lining the pockets of their Epsteins.
Yeah, and they're also abusing kids.
Like, if you go to like South America or whatever it is.
It's not in your head, they're women, but they're kids.
Potentially.
And I bet you some are kids and some are adults.
And I bet you there's probably motherfuckers that went to Epstein and shit.
Like, hey, I'm going to this island to fuck women.
Because here's the thing.
A lot of people got to understand.
There are parties around the world where women are just brought there to fuck the guys at the party.
That's not a, that's not like an abstract concept here.
Like, there are parties where it's a few guys that are there, and then there are women that are just funneled into the party.
And their job is to fuck whoever's there.
Right.
That's your job.
They're paid for.
These girls could be Russian.
They could be Brazilian.
They could be American.
They could be Cuban.
They could be whatever the fuck they are.
But they're women that do not have opportunities in life.
And they're there to fuck the rich guys that are at the party.
Yeah.
To look at this as this only happens on Epstein Island is to be willfully ignorant to what goes on every single weekend around the world.
Right.
Like every weekend.
That's true.
Like you go out and party in New York.
They're legal.
You go out and party in New York.
You go to one of these nightclubs.
They're women that are just paid to hang out by the bottles.
They get money.
They're paid.
They're not supposed to fuck the people.
But please believe sometimes they get fucked.
Now, it's their choice.
But I would imagine that the girls who give up some pussy more often get paid more often to be at the party.
They're more fun.
They get flown around.
Yeah.
Like, sex tourism exists.
Yeah.
We're completely okay with it.
And we're focusing just on this like one specific instance because it's got all these powerful people involved.
And the age.
What I'm saying is the age thing exists everywhere.
Everywhere.
Okay.
Yeah.
You go to parts of like Southeast Asia and shit.
Like, that's the whole game.
You're not going there for how old the women look.
Yeah.
Like the people that go to like, who are like, and they age the best.
Like, if there's one place you can fuck an old woman and she's going to look young, it's Asia and they still want the young people.
You think it just hits closer to home because it's happening in our country also?
Like if it's happening, these guys are pieces of shit if they're doing it in Southeast Asia.
They're fucking gross.
They're monsters at these parties, but it's going to hit closer to home if it's happening in fucking Florida.
Or an island with girls from Florida.
Like, you know, Clintons, obviously.
Yeah, that's Janamas.
That absolutely so many different things perfect.
It confirms people's idea also, like, rich people.
Confirmation.
This like cabal of people that are all connected through this pedophilic sacrifice, whatever else.
Rich people are bad.
Politicians are bad.
All these rich elites, they're doing fucked up things.
I don't have that stuff because I'm not willing to do those fucked up things.
The only way you can get there is if you do fucked up things.
What?
The perfect story to convince me that I'm 100% right?
That's awesome.
Now I can forget about it.
Go get married.
Where am I going to do my bachelor party?
Fuck.
Saigon seems like a good place.
Yeah.
No.
I'm just, I don't know.
Maybe I should.
There is hypocrisy.
Is there something?
Yeah, again, again, I thought you were more trying to explain away the people went to Epstein Allen, and I think they knew.
But the hypocrisy, I see.
I guess, yeah, I guess what I'm trying to say is, like, whether they knew or they didn't know, their willful ignorance is a problem.
Yeah.
That's right, too.
Yeah, I think that's a problem.
Like, if you know, it could.
Yeah, you got to be vigilant, yo.
Like, and honestly, it's probably worse if you're a powerful person because you got a lot of shit to lose.
So, like, you should be more vigilant about this kind of thing.
I'm curious what the pretext is, also.
Like, I wonder if Epstein, because he's trying to blackmail people, allegedly.
That's the way I understand.
Like, he's trying to get dirt on people.
So, if he's bringing people down, being like, oh, yeah, like, I have some friends that are also coming to hang out.
Like, they're all cool.
Like, talk to them if you want.
And then the girls are like super extra.
Like, they're not paying for it.
They're just like, wow, like, you know, Jeff's friend is like super nice to me.
I guess she's into me.
That's so cool.
So it depends on if he's trying to trap these people, which then absolves some of the people potentially of their intent.
Hell yeah.
Whereas some people are going, like, yo, I'm going with Jeffrey Epstein.
I'm about to bang a bunch of kids.
Those people obviously fit into me like a different box.
Yeah.
I mean, think about it.
If it's a trap, the last thing you want to do is incriminate somebody until afterwards.
Yeah.
It's like, if I'm trying to poison you, I don't go, hey, here's some poison in your food.
Enjoy it.
Yeah, you do the exact opposite.
This is the best food ever, whatever.
So delicious.
So you say, yo, these are my friends that just came in or they're in town and they're going to come party with this.
Is that cool?
Like, I know you're married, but like, they're going to come hang.
Is that fine?
Yeah.
So I'm assuming if Epstein's trying to get these people, which to me, it seems like he is.
Most people seem to believe that as well.
Yeah.
So are all the people that ever went to the islands that had sex with women there, are they all guilty of the same thing?
I'm like, they all did the same fucked up thing.
But if Epstein's trying to trap them, that's different than if they're going there on their own volition trying to bang kids.
And now you got one of these motherfuckers that you know really likes it and you get your hooks in.
Yeah.
That Prince Andrew is like, hey, I really enjoyed that specific type of party.
Yeah.
Are we going to have more of those?
And you're like, oh, he's mine.
You keep feeding the beast, feeding the beasts, and now you got him.
And you can do whatever the fuck you want with him.
That could be the game.
It could be the low-key game could have been just bait.
Like, he could have had above-aged girls there, too.
I'll bring everyone in.
And then the people that happen to filter into this creepy fucking pedophilic shit, then he's like, oh, yeah, they're mine.
Yeah.
Hopefully, he's a rich guy.
Hopefully, he's connected to the royals.
And I'm only inviting rich connected people.
So one of those dudes drinks a little bit, gets a little loose, starts talking to a tiny bopper, hooks in.
Yeah.
But yeah, I mean, people that are complicit in sex tourism in general, I don't think they are completely self-actualized.
Yeah.
What do you mean by that?
Like, they're going to some third world country going, like, yo, I'm going to be involved in prostitution at the very least.
Oh, self-actualizing.
Yeah, like self-awareness.
They're going away to do illegal shit and they're not really thinking about too much because it makes them feel weird.
No one goes and bangs a bunch of prostitutes that have dubious agents and comes back like, yes.
Yeah, I did it.
I had a great time.
When you come back, you have to cope with it.
Actually, to be honest, Mark, they do, bro.
It's, bro, it's crazy.
Oh, man, we were down there.
We're taking down four each, something like that.
Five of us.
Like, it's crazy that the stories, they're paying for it, but they're still like.
Yeah.
I mean, I had that joke about the strip clothes.
Like, anytime guys will brag about strip clothes, I'm like, you paid them.
Like, I don't understand why you're bragging about paying for shit.
Yeah.
I mean, that's how I feel anytime someone comes back from a trip and they're like, bragging.
I'm like, all right.
Yeah.
And the money's worth.
In the back of my mind, I'm like, you spent a lot of money and didn't get any pussy.
Yeah.
Strip club-wise.
Yeah.
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