Dave Chappelle and Akaash Singh dissect Chappelle's controversial demands for trans employees at Netflix, including mandatory viewing of his special and admitting Hannah Gadsby isn't funny. The hosts debate whether this is a genuine negotiation or a marketing tactic to promote his upcoming arena tour, comparing Chappelle's intelligence to Ted Sarandos. The conversation shifts to nostalgic anecdotes about childhood pornography consumption, contrasting old physical media like VHS tapes with modern digital streaming sites. Ultimately, the episode highlights how celebrity controversies and evolving media landscapes intersect in today's cultural discourse. [Automatically generated summary]
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Dave Chappelle's Repetitive Jokes00:07:12
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Did you guys watch the Chappelle response?
I did, yeah.
Did you watch Chappelle's most recent response to all this shit?
The one to the trans community, right?
He seems a little tuned up, to be honest with you.
That guy's swirling.
Who's this Dave Chappelle, everybody?
This story will not go away.
Mark, you saw it?
Yeah.
So Dave Chappelle basically came out and responded to the trans employees who walked out.
And I guess he was saying, which I didn't see this to be fair.
The media was saying he refused to meet with the Netflix employees who wanted to meet with him.
And he was like, that's not true.
They never asked me.
Sure.
Never got to him.
I never, yeah.
He was like, I'll gladly meet with you guys, but I have a list of demands.
You got that?
Yeah.
All right.
I got it.
That's me normally, so I have patience with it.
But I also see where Schultz is like, how do you not get it?
Yeah.
Schultz studio is falling apart.
Yeah, what's going on in this drink?
I've never seen the mic like that.
That's cool.
It's just bad.
It works like that.
No, no, it just rests on your stomach like a fucking.
This is the fattest you've ever been through.
Yeah, it is.
I thought I wanted to sit in that chair.
You got me sitting in this thing.
I'm all trusted you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This chair, I don't know who can handle it, though, because we've already broken one of these chairs.
I sat in that last time.
The green one or the pink one?
I sat in this one.
Oh, damn.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
Well, listen.
Start over.
Yeah, we'll restart.
If you need to, we'll switch at some point.
I'll have to piss eventually.
He's fine.
I'm great.
But Chappelle had a list of demands.
He was like, look, I'll meet with the trans community, but I have a list of demands, which is a funny flip.
One of them was you will meet at a time and place of my choosing.
Which I wonder what he would choose.
Which is hilarious.
Buckies or something?
Yeah, that's what I would choose.
What would it be?
What does that even mean?
I think he just felt like, I'm not going to go get summoned.
Sure.
That was, I think, was a big respect thing.
And I have that too.
Of like, you don't fucking tell me.
That's like, I don't care if you're asking me to do something.
Dave Chappelle's got a little bit of cash on him.
He probably, he would probably want to do it.
If I was him, I'd be like, yo, let's do it at a, let's do it in front of a live audience.
So I can fucking own you.
Yeah, and I know, like, you're not, because one, you're, one, you're not going to be a good public speaker.
Two, your ideas in theory, I get what you're saying, but it's like he's more practical.
So a whole poll will embarrass somebody.
And he's just so fucking smart that there's, there's a level of intelligence.
He knows how to work a crowd.
There's a big enough gap in intelligence that if you're right or wrong, you will win.
It doesn't matter how wrong.
If the gap is big enough, it's like a college debate.
Like disprove, like, even if you're like, shit, mine's not the strongest.
Let me poke holes in the middle.
And the smart.
He's a defense attorney.
The fucking Ted's, whatever his name is, Sandrews or whatever the fuck.
Sarandos?
Sarandos.
I want to say Sandusky, and I had to pull it up.
I had to pull it last second.
Fame Netflix is second.
Ted Sandusky.
Hey, motherfucker ain't emailing me.
He sucked my dick.
Ted Sarandos is not smart enough to hang with Dave Chappelle in a debate.
So the Netflix employees are not going to be able to do it.
This guy.
Sure.
Brendan said it well.
He said his brain belongs in the Smithsonian.
So if he does live debate, there's no chance he's going to be able to do it.
If I was him, I'd be like, let's do it live.
Let's, you know.
Let's do it live.
Like, fucking, what's his name?
Bill O'Reilly?
I'll do it live.
Do it live.
Wait, he said it should be in the Smithsonian?
That's what Neil Brennan said.
He said, put Dave Chappelle's brain in the Smithsonian.
Like, it's a fucking Marvel.
I feel like it would look the same as every other brand.
Like, do they put brains in the museum?
Yeah, is that a thing?
Like, you walk right next to Fonzi's jacket?
Yeah, that's a good ass point, man.
That's a good ass point.
You really saw through that.
I just thought it sounded so good.
I bought in.
I was like, this guy, man.
You convinced me of his bullshit.
I was like, oh, maybe he is right.
Fucking Mark's like, what brains?
I'm like, yeah, I don't know anymore.
I do think Netflix, last night I went home, I like opened up Netflix, and the first thing at the top was his old documentary.
So they're like doubling down.
They're like, dude, we're just pushing it.
We know it's hot.
So this is.
They just think you're a transphobe.
They're like, oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, based on your viewing history, you don't like trans.
So there were two other demands.
You remember the second demand, Mark?
Maybe we can pull it up.
Yeah, I'll pull it up.
The second one, I think, was...
Oh, well, the third one.
You have to watch the whole special.
Yeah, you have to watch the whole special.
Watch the whole special in his entirety.
Thank you.
And the third one is you have to admit Hannah Gatsby isn't funny, which is, again, why he's the best at what he does.
Because to end it like that is perfect.
Yeah.
Do you take it?
Yeah, I took it as like, listen, I'm serious, but this, like, this is like the sugar that makes the medicine go down a little bit.
Yes.
It was clearly a shot at the end.
And it was a shot at Hannah because I think she said she had a partially stunted worldview or something like that.
And like, she went at him pretty hard.
Sure.
So he was just like one little bang.
There you go.
So I got you.
And it ends everything on a nice, funny note.
And yeah, the sugar that makes the medicine go down.
I thought, what'd you think overall of the whole thing?
I said my thoughts in the group text, but I'll say them again here.
I don't know.
I do think, I get, but it is like, I do think both sides have a point to an extent.
It's like he has spent, what, three specials now harping on the same topic.
And I'm like, also, as a comedian and a huge fan of him, I'm like, I want to see, I do.
I want to see this put to rest.
Yeah, I want to see something else.
I want to see the five-year gap, and then he comes back with fucking heat.
Yeah, you're like one of the best storytellers.
He's released like, what, like four specials in like four or whatever it is, three years or whatever it is.
It's like, I would like to see something else, but I do get that it's like, that's a big part of his life.
They're coming down publicly.
They're dragging him publicly.
And he's like, yeah, this is what I do.
I have a public forum to discuss this.
So I'm going to.
Yeah, I think it's like six specials in four years.
Something crazy.
Yeah, yeah.
That's insane.
Mark, what'd you think?
Yeah, I mean, it's sort of the same thing where I'm like, okay, I like that he's trying to put this to rest.
And like, ideally, he moves on.
I also trust that he's savvy enough to know what he's doing.
I agree.
Where I'm like, I view it from my perspective as like, okay, like he's sort of, you know, upset that his thing is getting pulled out of film festivals, but it's also getting screened at like literally arenas.
Sure.
So I'm like, if you look at like the bare bones of it, it seems like it's kind of like a dramatization of what's going on.
It's marketing at the end.
His tide's going up.
That's exactly my point.
It feels like marketing, which is fine because that's what he's supposed to do is market his shit.
So as like a fan, I get wrapped up in the marketing where I'm like, oh, yeah, this is great.
Let's fucking go.
But then if you step away, I'm sort of like, all right, I can, I don't, millionaires complaining about period.
Like, yeah, you're like, hundreds is taken from me.
This is taken from me.
It's like, you're what?
You have literally, you can do, you can make anything you want and you'll make millions of dollars from it.
But you're also a fan of Dave.
So I'm like, fucking.
I thought this was when you talked about it.
The what was me is tough.
I'm like, I get it.
But here's the thing.
When you talk about how smart Chappelle is, whether the saying makes any sense or not, put in the Smithsonian, his brain, I think he started using his brain to negotiate and market and make money.
Marketing vs. Reality Check00:02:43
Of course.
In the past, I thought the Netflix give me the rights to my show back to MTV and BioCom was a brilliant, like, that's the only way you can win in that negotiation if you get the people completely on your side.
So he's doing that again.
And he's doing it again with, I have this documentary that nobody wants me to air.
I guarantee you every network will take Dave Chappelle's thing.
But in the meantime, it's forbidden.
Hey, guys, let's sell tickets to an arena tour.
He's going to make $10 million off that tour easy just filming a movie and then coming out and saying some shit.
And then he's going to get it to Netflix and then he's going to make another however many million dollars.
It's so fucking smart, dude.
I was impressed just off rip with the way he did the whole thing.
Nobody can package anything like Chappelle.
Sure.
It's incredible.
That was my thought.
Is the greatest marketing I've ever seen one person do for two different projects six months apart?
It's unreal.
Yeah, yeah, it's insane.
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Reading the Nicotine Disclaimer00:10:36
Have you ever seen a lunchable until fifth grade?
No, my mom never bought them.
Dude, lunchables are such trash.
That's a trash.
It is.
I'll walk out of here right now.
Buddy, there's not a single good lunchable in history.
I never fucked up.
Maybe lunchable technology has advanced, but when it was cheese and crackers and fucking bologna, eat my dick.
Yeah.
Slide a Capri Sun in there.
That's clean living.
There's way better options.
That's not even clean living, buddy.
That's trash for trash.
Yeah.
None of that is good.
Yeah.
And you'll agree, dessert is not a mini crunch bar.
You know what I mean?
Well, I'm a big fan of the crunch bars.
That is not the best.
Yeah, mini crunch bar.
Eat my dick.
I'm telling you, none of that is good.
Bologna and bread is poor, still better than bologna and a cracker.
It just is.
Get an actual bologna sandwich.
He's got his kids got pulsed.
And you paying more for the lunchable.
And you're putting it together like an asshole.
Yeah.
You do nothing.
No moment.
You're just making his lunch.
That's what they're doing in the fancy restaurants.
That's true.
That's deconstructed.
They were ahead of their time.
The pizza was shit.
Pizza was.
I used to pretend to, I used to convince myself it was good.
It's nuts.
It was.
It's cool sauce, cold, frozen cheese.
What are you doing?
You're eating nothing.
What's a good lunchable, Miles?
I was going to say the pizza.
Oh, no way.
This guy's garbage.
It's garbage.
It had a just novel for a sec.
And then I just like taking the garbage.
I like taking the pizza sauce and just getting the hole in it and just slurping it.
Wow.
Dude, Capri.
That is fucking.
I judge that.
That's this post.
I don't know.
How did you get me?
That's nuts.
The Uber was a full black guy there a minute ago.
What's going on?
Literally the exact opposite.
Could not be more opposite.
He looks like a clerk at Buckingham.
See, literally his first contribution to the polish.
I like to slurp the tomatoes out of the hole.
I love the honesty, though.
That's fantastic.
I like a cold can and spaghetti.
I took a mega bus one time, and it's like, you know, when you like sit down, you're looking for like, you're trying, you're doing the math.
And as you walk back, you're like, oh, I could sit here and that, you know.
Yeah.
So hoping nobody sits next to me.
Hoping nobody sits.
And he's like, if you see like somebody, like, do I hedge my bets and sit with them?
Or, like, what do you do?
So, I find a, and I see uh, this tiny little Asian girl.
I'm like, perfect.
She's not going to be like, fall.
It's not like a big, it's not like I'm sitting next to Foley.
They're falling into my seat.
Tiny little girl.
She has headphones in, minding her own business.
I go, can I sit there?
So I sit down next to her.
Dude, we pull out of the parking lot.
She pulls out like 40 fucking ketchup packets.
Oh, really?
Wait, just what the fuck?
Yeah.
Just sucking packets.
That's Miles' dream.
There might have been some crackers and stuff, but it was just, it was a lot of condiments.
And I was like, still talk to her.
What's the deal?
That's the craziest shit I've ever heard of in my life.
It was not.
Another guy took his shirt off just right next to me.
Fucking you didn't ask him to put it on.
Dude, a guy with the confidence to take his shirt off.
It's not like he's not like, well, what if somebody asked me to put it back on?
He's living in his own reality.
That's true.
That's an invitation to somebody tell me to put my fucking shirt on.
When did you stop taking the mega bus?
As soon as I could, I was Amtrak.
Yeah.
Oh, Amtrak.
I still don't.
I mean, Amtrak's one thing.
I mean, Amtrak's like $400.
Amtrak up until DC from New York to DC is class.
And then the second you go south.
The long hauls are tough.
Bro, I saw a guy, swear to God, like three years ago, maybe, get on an Amtrak and pull out a fucking Sony disc man.
Remember the 1990s CD player that's got 10 seconds anti-skipping?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that shit duct tape hard as fuck.
And I was like, this is a guy I got to be nice to because he will kill me for meth money.
Yeah.
The buses are something else.
I haven't taken a bus in years, years, years.
Now you whip it.
Does anybody?
Now I'll drive or yeah.
Does anybody in here still own any DVDs?
I don't.
That's because I moved a bunch, but I don't.
Yeah.
I never purchased a DVD.
I don't think he'd ever purchased a DVD.
My dad.
Did you ever purchase a DVD?
I don't think so.
Miles, did you maybe?
Mark is 27, yo.
He's 18 years old.
I'm 27.
He's 25.
Oh, Mark is 20 years younger than you.
Really?
He looks old as fuck, right?
He could not be my dad.
You could never fuck my mom.
My mom would never bang him.
My dad's a nice guy.
Mark is 25, 20 years younger than you.
That's crazy.
I know, because he looks old as shit.
Miles 27.
Yeah.
Where are you from, Miles?
Sarasota, Florida.
They're both Florida boys.
They went to college together.
Miles is here because Mark put him on very early with the YouTube thing.
Before it was Netflix, Miles started doing graphics.
And then from Netflix, he fucking killed himself.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Well, that was a fucking great job.
Thank you.
Wow, that was fantastic.
You did all the graphics.
Every graphic you see, that's Miles.
Holy shit.
Fantastic.
Every word you read.
That's Andrew.
No, these guys fucking killed it.
And now they're here and we're happy to have them, but that I judge the fuck out of the Lunchables thing, man.
Yeah, my dad still has DVDs.
Yeah, that's a big dad thing still.
I still got a couple floating around, I'm sure.
I don't even know what to do.
What DVDs you got in the collection?
What do you got?
There was an Anchorman floating.
There's like someone, you know, when you move, you're just like, I just take this box of stuff with me.
Girls Gone Wild?
You got a Girls Gone Wild.
I wish I had a Girls Gone Wild.
Mountain.
Never had the balls to pull the trigger on that or a credit card.
Same.
I couldn't use my mom's grandma.
You just jerk off to the commercial.
Oh, yeah, I know that for sure.
I'm not an asshole.
You know what I mean?
Trying to beat the clock.
That's like the hurt locker.
Yeah.
Just 30 seconds to come.
I got that big suit on.
Waddling to the bathroom.
Cut the red wire.
Oh, my God.
That's what you had to do back in the day.
Yeah, you had that or blurry porn on blurry porn.
I would even, you know, fucking music video, got me in the mood.
I would go out.
So you kids don't even know.
Yeah.
You don't even know.
No, I don't.
When was the first time you saw a boob?
The first porn you watched was on the internet, right?
Yeah.
They've never seen not porn porn.
That's fucking.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Wow.
That's nuts.
It was brutal.
Just walking around raging hard on something you could swing from.
Had to watch it with like four other guys in a room, and everybody casually excused themselves to the bathroom.
Yeah, we would steal my friend's dad's porn, Lust at Sea.
Never had to do any of that.
Never?
It was called Lust at Sea.
I still try to find it every now and then.
Dude, you should take a walk down memory lane.
Wasn't Al Pacino in that?
I've had way more dads watch porn now because it's accessible.
Before you had to have the fucking tape, it's evidence.
Sure.
My dad got busted.
My dad ruined like four laptops because they didn't know what they were doing.
And you always got to look the other way.
I don't even know what happened.
Like 15 years ago, hey, pop-ups keep coming.
What are you looking at?
Hey, Facebook.
You're over there slapping it before work.
We know what's going on.
Yeah.
You never had to do any of that.
No, no.
I never had to work for it.
Just sit down, turn the computer on.
I never had a group viewing experience.
Like, I hear all the time.
Come over.
What are you doing later?
Get these TVs working here, right?
It's actually pretty erotic.
I brought Lust at C with me.
You're not missing out.
I'll tell you that right now.
You remember that, right?
You're old enough to remember that.
The first time I watched a porn, some friends showed it to you.
That's how every kid saw porn for the first time, I assumed.
I didn't mind it.
It was fine with me.
The internet version.
I had a buddy come over to my house and he goes, yo, I found this website.
You got to check it out.
And my parents don't understand technology at the time.
So they put the computer in my room at like a young age.
Holy shit.
It's a key to the castle.
My older friend comes over.
He's like two or three years older than me.
He comes over, types of people.
They're an older kids.
And he just knows it.
Oh, you have a porn machine.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You know how we felt when Trump had the nuclear codes?
That's how I would feel with you and the fucking, just all the porn you want to see at HP.
Turn your key.
But yeah, long story short, he goes on, puts on porn on the computer.
I go, whoa, I. Do you remember what website it was?
Hotbabes.com.
Woo!
Right up the middle.
No guessing what that is.
Such a 10-year-old porn site.
Hotbabes.com.
I want to see some hot babes.
Where would I go?
And then boobs.org.
My mom comes home, catches both of us, and I'm sitting there and go, and he just runs under my mom.
She's got her arm in the doorway.
He runs under it, and we don't see him for two weeks.
That's great.
Hey, I respect it.
He was jerking off for two weeks.
Must have been really hot babes.
Those babes are hot.
See, that's crazy to me.
Dude, I would print out, I would go to like freeones.com was the big one where you could like find.
That was like the first real database where you could like type in a name.
There was just thousands of names.
And we would print out, we'd go over to like a buddy's house or whatever and like print out pictures we would have of just like boobs.
Dude, this is how old we are.
Victory's Secret Magazine wasn't too bad.
I saw a guy at the library printing out porn.
Old guys do that a lot.
Oh, dude, yeah.
Here's what's crazy.
If you tell a kid that, they'll be like, you went to the library?
Yeah, that's the craziest portion part.
What do you think?
What the fuck are you doing that?
Yeah, exactly.
There was like for a long time, there was a lot of signs in public libraries of like no porn allowed because old guys wouldn't know and they would think nobody would see them or could see their computer screen.
Yeah.
So there was like this, there was this wave of old dudes just watching porn and public libraries.
I've also heard of like porn just like hid in the woods.
That was big.
Yeah.
That was the first porn I saw was a magazine that someone found in the woods.
It's an old porn tree.
Talk about it like it's medieval times.
That's how it felt.
Well, dude, think about to a 25-year-old kid who's only had boobs in his phone for how long?
Yeah.
They'd be like, porn in the woods.
It sounds like a Shell Silverstein book.
Yeah, it was like the end of Dr. Zeus.
The giving tree.
Like, this is giving.
It was the end of Shaw's Hank Redemption.
Remember, he's like, go to the big oak tree and then you find a rock that doesn't belong here.
San Juantanea.
I'm there with a heart on it.
You'll find the cherry magazine under an oak tree.
About San Juan Tanea.
San Juanea, yeah.
A rock that shouldn't be there.
Yeah, we used to stack them out.
Me and my boys stole tons of magazines from this magazine shop, stashed them all out in the woods.
And then what always happened is one day you would go and they would just be gone.
Somebody got them.
Some greedy fuck, y'all.
Yeah, somebody took them.
You can't show the love.
Jerking off to a magazine was tough.
Tough.
Yeah, looking back on it now.
Did anybody know how good you have it?
I'm telling you, well, you're also in public.
Like, I think jerking off outside is the hard part.
You took them home to the house, yeah.
You wrote a page out or something like that.
No, I think you did it in the woods.
What a caveman!
It's like a library.
Yeah, it was like that take a book, leave a book thing.
I like that we were doing it out in the woods.
I literally thought it was like you go to the woods, get your book, and jerk off in a leaf or something.
We didn't have woods, so I kind of was with you to be honest.
I get that, though.
Jerking off like bare grills, climb inside a moose.