Nate Bargatze and Lewis J. Gomez dissect comedy's evolution, contrasting Adam Sandler's consistent world-building with Trevor Noah's manufactured personas. They analyze the "Bartman" incident's harsh media treatment, debate Tiger Woods' mental toughness versus his father's abuse, and critique the exhausting pressure to "win over" unfamiliar audiences. Ultimately, they argue that true longevity requires organic authenticity over forced adaptation, proving that making people laugh ethically offers unique professional satisfaction. [Automatically generated summary]
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Behind The Lantern00:11:42
What's up everybody welcome to Flagrant Suit.
We are sitting here today with Lewis J. Gomez's son's godfather.
Yes.
Your most proud credit.
I am.
Lewis hates me for it because he doesn't think I'm good.
I'm doing good enough as a godparent.
But I think I'm stepping up.
He doesn't, his parents are gone.
They're dead.
Yeah.
And so like I am in line for this dude.
Like there's you know what I mean?
Like in if usually like when you're when you're a godparent This is a big job.
Usually like you know he might be a godfather to like a few kids.
Like it's just kind of a gesture and you're like I don't know gives you something.
You don't.
You know, if you are not married or have families, we're trying to.
It's like having a dog.
We're like you can tell people this yeah, it's a gesture.
It's like obviously, the kids never going to you, like we're never right right, if something truly happened, we're still going somewhere else.
But you know, with Lewis, it's uh, I'm there, baby.
It's, there's no one else, so you'll take his kid.
We're here with Nate Bargatzi, by the way, the very fun, huge star yeah, massive Star, the Greatest Normal.
It was at the Greatest Average American.
Someone had told me the day they go, what is your title?
The most average?
I'm like that sounds such worse.
Yeah, it's, you know what are you?
The most average comedian?
Something like that.
Like yeah yeah, basically huge Netflix specials amazing, we go way back.
Like this is, you were at what, like one generation ahead of me?
Yeah, in New York.
Yeah, that's who was your crew?
You know, big J. Big J was, he was already there.
He was probably a year above me.
Jake Metzger was like a year above me, right right right yeah, that's.
We always talk about New York.
You know, like you were, you in Norman yeah, I think like Norman was a guest around my time, but we didn't, we didn't I don't know cross paths as much like we were over by like the village Lantern right right, yeah.
So we were just kind of like grinding bubbles.
Yeah, the lantern was, I was there too.
Oh, it was uh, uh.
Yeah, I always talk about that because I think people, we got to tell one story, you got to tell one story.
Yeah, I just want to say one thing, you are one of my favorite comics period, so funny.
We always bring you up when it comes to like people who are clean but you don't even know.
Yes yeah, that's the whole goal, the whole.
You don't even know you're, you're just laughing at this person.
They're funny, you don't realize they're clean.
So, one of the goat clean comics ever, I think.
There you go, we're building you up, and we're building you up for a reason.
Having said that, nobody and this is a compliment, I mean it, but nobody bombs better than you.
It's a fucking joy to watch.
If you're not, or you feel like you're not, doing well, even just the lines that you'll have, the shit that you'll say is like fucking genius to me.
So there was moments of the village lantern like we would all eat our fucking dicks.
Oh yeah, it could be a very rough, very rough, but it could be a great room.
Yeah, and I remember you telling me that you had a set once at the lantern and you described it like this, you kept looking behind You to see if there was somebody else doing comedy.
Do you remember this?
I think so.
I do remember some a bunch of stories from there because the bathroom is behind you.
The bathroom was behind you.
Yeah, And then people would walk on stage.
Oh, yeah.
They would walk behind you on stage, which is the confidence as an audience member.
The little respect that was shown.
There's a banquet on that side.
You're on stage, and some people just walk on stage and then walk behind you and go to the bathroom.
Okay.
I mean, yeah, the audacity.
And I remember one other time I had, because so when we do these shows, you're barking.
So we're out front being like, hey, we got a great conversation.
You're trying to get people in the stage.
So if we get three people in there, someone's got to go up because we got to keep those three.
Yeah.
So we can hopefully get four and then have seven.
And we get seven.
I mean, it's like, we're going to probably tape.
You know, we're going to, we're going to record that show.
So it's the best show of our life.
So I remember one time we're on stage.
I'm on stage and these two couples are sitting in their front row.
And then these two girls just come on stage and take a picture with me.
Not because they, I'm anybody, but just being like, oh, we're at this comedy and didn't ask.
Just stood up.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't even know if they thought the show started.
Like they, it was like it was, I was a wax museum.
Like I was a wax, you know, they just stood up and stood next to me and they smiled and they took a picture and they're like, oh, and then they sit back down and didn't even, I mean, there was no like, hey, man, do you mind if we do this or appreciate it?
None of that.
It was like they just did it.
And you're like, okay.
And you just got to let it happen because you're like, who am I?
You know, I don't know.
Yeah, we're absolutely nobody.
But a great, you know, room to kind of break your, break your spirit, but also give you some confidence.
That's what was so great about New York.
So people always, because I always, you know, I'm a New York comic and that's where I learned, I was there for eight and some years.
Yeah.
But you go up and you're in front of three people and four people and seven people.
And that's just what, and like doing that.
And then that just makes you, you just get so much better.
And you do it, I mean, multiple times a night.
Yeah.
You know, like not like, not like it's like once.
You're in for a few years, six people is like your average.
You could do three shows for a combined total of nine people.
Oh, easily.
Easily.
Easily.
Yeah.
That was like a regular, and we did, and we wanted to go up.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, you're just like, yeah, I'll go up.
I don't know about it.
Someone drops in.
I think I got so much better at crowd work because you can't just do your bits for four people.
It's so fucking weird.
So you'd have to like talk to them and try to find a way to weave your bit in there.
And that's the thing.
I think you could just, it ended up, you could seem much more natural doing it.
Yeah, you had a weird trajectory though, man, because like most people come to New York to make it.
Yeah.
And you came to New York, got really good at stand-up, and then you moved to Tennessee.
Yeah.
And then you fucking exploded.
Yeah.
Well, I moved to LA for two years and then moved back to Tennessee.
You were trying to like, do you were like, you had a sitcom?
Well, I mean, I've done that.
I mean, for like 10 years.
I've sold a show every year and we've only shot one pilot.
Really?
But it's like, it just is what it is.
It's like, what's the wonderful thing about it is you can try it and then you got your stand-up.
That's why I love stand-up so much where you can really go do these kind of things.
And I mean, the first you really want to do them, but now the longer I get, you're like, yo, I don't need this show.
Yeah.
Stand-up is kind of becoming is a much bigger thing than it ever was.
Yeah.
And so you can kind of just, you're like, yeah, I got my thing going, my world going.
I mean, that's what you kind of, you got your world going here.
Yeah.
Like you start seeing people's where you go like, oh, I'll just, you know, in a weird way, it's like what Sandler did.
Adam Sandler's got his world.
Yeah, he did it with like in the movie thing, but it was like it's his movie.
Yeah, you know, you're going because of his movie, and he makes a bunch of movies.
And so it's like, everybody, you just build your world, yeah.
And then everybody's like, well, I like that guy.
So then I'm on board with all of his that's that's he's like my inspiration in a lot of ways.
Yeah, like the way he models, like, because he puts all of his guys that he writes the movie with in the movie as well.
Yeah.
So it's the same characters.
Yeah.
They're just kind of playing like different versions of the characters that we already saw and we love.
So you don't have to really reestablish.
Yeah.
Like when I see Adam Sandler in a movie, I'm like, I know who he is, more or less.
Yeah.
You know, so you don't need to explain the backstory.
It's fucking Adam Sandler.
Right.
And, but yeah, they just did such a such a fucking great job with it.
But I, I don't know.
You had this like crazy rise.
It was, it was so weird.
Well, the special started, uh, so I shot did that comedy session special.
Then I did it.
Then it started with Netflix.
I did that half hour.
And now you know, I moved the big quote.
I was like, one of my favorite quotes.
Jerry, this, I read this book, Jerry Wintrob.
And he was like, he like produced like Oceans 11, 13.
Like he ended up being a big Hollywood guy.
And he was in New York and he was working like he was an agent.
Like in the, I mean, this is like the 50s or something or 60s.
And he said in the book, he just said he moved because he knew anytime he was, anytime he started feeling comfortable, it was time to make a change.
And so, I mean, I read that book and I moved with, I read that, and I was in three months we moved to LA because I knew it made so much, it hit hard.
So, you know, it was like, I was very comfortable in New York at that time.
At that point, I'm passed at every club.
Yeah.
I'm not really having to like chase these spots like I used to.
And so I was like, I'm very comfortable.
And I knew if I stay here, I'm going to remain this comfortable and I'm not going to put myself into a different comedy scene where I have to feel like I have to prove myself again.
Yeah.
And so then I moved to LA.
And then it was like, I was in LA.
And then you're like, now you're around all these people that, you know, I don't know that all that scene out there.
Yeah.
And so you're like, oh, now I've got to, I've got to go murder in front of these people.
Like, it just makes you kind of like, you got to get shouted.
You got to get hungry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause it's very easy.
You get very, you know.
But your thing was interesting because, like, I always, I had this feeling, right?
I would always tell like these people when I was sitting down these meetings and exacts, especially when I saw your rise.
And I was like, dude, if Netflix was smart, I actually told Netflix this.
I was like, you shouldn't do anything with me.
You should do stuff with people like Nate because I bet you the majority of your subscribers like Nate.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, there's a lot of people in New York and LA, and we like, they set the tone for what is fucking cool or whatever that bullshit is.
But there's a lot of people in the middle of the country, a lot more people that are going to fucking watch this guy.
And seeing you explode was super validating.
But and then seeing you like get it again, and then people really find you.
And then weirdly, seeing like my friends on the East Coast and West Coast find you, I thought was really cool.
Yeah.
Because I was wondering if you were going to cross back.
Yeah.
Like you learned how to kill in New York, then you kind of explode in the middle.
And people like, finally, we have our guy.
This is great.
It's really nice.
And not somebody that like is curated or like manufactured to satisfy us.
Yeah.
You know, like that's what LA will do a lot.
They'll be like, let's turn one of these guys from California into a good old country boy.
Oh, you know, yeah, dude.
Every show is that.
Like they, uh, when we pitch these shows, you know, because they have like a show where it's like that one show was like, these California people moved to Nebraska.
Yeah.
Well, they just go make fun of people in Nebraska.
I hate that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they're like, you're like, who are you, dude?
Like, who do you think you do?
Yeah.
I, that stuff makes me.
That's my issue with Funkin Oliver and my issue with like Trevor Noah.
It's like Alabama's a punchline.
It's like, you just got here.
Yeah.
The fuck do you know?
Yeah.
Like, I don't understand where you get off.
Like, even making fun of like conservatives or Democrats.
I don't even care like what, like, okay, you come here, you choose a side because it kind of identifies with you a little bit more.
But like, you actually really have never hung out with conservatives.
If you moved here from England and you move directly to New York, you don't know how to conservators.
Yeah.
And if you do, you know, New York conservatives.
Yeah.
Which are not conservatives.
No, Right.
So it's like the idea that they could go in and talk about like how greedy conservatives are.
And it's like, you moved here for one reason.
Yeah.
So you can make money.
Yeah.
You didn't come here to make less money than you did in London or South Africa, right?
Yeah.
Like you came here to make money and this is the new punching bag.
Yeah.
But don't act like you're fucking better than that.
Oh, they're the they they I was just in LA from here and it was like, I don't know.
I met someone and they're like, I said, I'm, you know, they're like, where do you live?
Walking Around Walmart00:02:39
I go Nashville.
And they're like, oh, so you're like an anti-vaxxer?
Like, and they're kind of joking, but they're not.
And you go, yeah, you know what is too the problem is?
You just, do you know how crazy that is?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, you're just going, you don't know me at all.
You're just going because I said I'm from Tennessee.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you immediately say, like, I'm an A.
Now that being said, no, then North.
But that being said, real quick, like, you are an anti-don't be bringing your dumb vaccines all over my arm, dude.
Like, you know, where are these vaccines coming from, dude?
I don't know who this guy is.
Someone said they were walking around Walmart and like they were trying to get, because they said, I'm sure they read this somewhere.
Who knows if this is even true?
But they go, they're walking around Walmart and like the South and just being like, hey, we'll give you your vaccine.
You can do it right now.
And then people are like saying no to it.
You're like, yeah, man, dude, if I was shopping at Walmart and a guy walked up with a needle and was like, hey, man, do you mind if we just do this?
I'd be like, no.
Like, you're just out of, there's no content.
I'm not in a doctor's office.
There's just some random guy named Pedro walking on the street.
I'm buying flip-flops and then you're like, I'm going to put my glasses from Walmart.
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They're 100% right about you.
No, I don't know if I would want.
Here's, I always have a weird thing.
I don't know if I want to say it because I don't like, I don't like when people show pictures of them getting vaccinated.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I don't want to ever be an influence on anybody getting one or not getting one.
I'm not saying I did one way or the other.
Yeah.
I'm not even saying I would never tell you, but it's like, why do you need to know if I, like, that's not you.
I just want to know if that guy was racist and right or stereotypical and right.
Yeah, so it's like, well, then it's the opposite of everything I just said.
Yeah.
What a piece of shit to just judge me based on how I talk and how I look.
I don't want to tell them.
Yeah.
I mean, you just told everybody.
If what?
I mean, I think we know.
No, you don't.
Also, the way that you walked in here, I know.
And I know which one it is.
See, you're doing this.
You can't get that New York out of it.
It's Pfizer, bro.
Oh, you know.
You're a Pfizer, dude.
You're a fucking Pfizer, dude.
Are you seeing?
That's pretty good.
I have.
I've had one.
Oh, you just got.
I've only done one.
You just going half in.
Well, wait, are you really Pfizer?
Did I get that, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, amazing.
That's me.
I only did, yeah, because I left, and so I couldn't do the second one.
And then so the plan is to do the second one and get back.
I'll be honest with you, though.
That first one, you want to be like, that's good, right?
Like, we're good.
I think you're good.
Like, the second one, everybody's like, dude, I get so sick at every second one.
You're like, why are we, how many do we got to do?
It's like, you do wonder that?
You're like, can I do?
But yeah.
Mark's an anti-vaxxer.
He's not doing it.
That's not true.
You are the most anti-vaxxer.
Compared to what?
No, no.
No, no, yes, he is.
He is anti-vaxxer.
Bro, Alexander Vax, but he's blackboarding.
But he's not getting it and he's forging documents.
He said he was going to forge the documents using mine.
I'm going to give him my vaccine.
I'm just reluctant, and I'm going to get it when it's inconvenient.
Right, right.
The only reason I got it is because my girl signed me up.
We came down here with antibodies and we were like, fuck it, let's go.
Yeah.
Like everybody here got Corona.
Yeah.
And we're like, that's the vaccine.
That's the vaccine.
You get it, and then that's the vaccine.
But do you feel like you can't say these things?
You feel like it will piss off your audience?
No, no.
No, not make them mad.
I don't.
The audacity of like when people like either have a whatever platform makes me furious.
Someone says they have a platform.
Dude, they gotta talk to me.
Maitland is a platform, dude.
But I know, but I don't use it for a platform.
I use it for...
Dude, I watch you talk about Teddy Roosevelt and talking about nothing, dude.
We're just making dumb jokes.
But I'm saying I don't want to be a platform.
You're dropping up these conservative presidents, bro.
Was Teddy Roosevelt?
I don't know.
Actually, it was Democrat.
He like taxed the fuck out of people.
I think everybody would.
I don't know anything about history.
But it's the idea of when everybody says they're, you know, you got a platform.
You got to use it.
You're like, how about you don't have to use it?
Yeah.
I don't have to use my platform.
I didn't go to college, dude.
I barely met at high school.
You don't need anything from me.
I don't know what I'm doing.
Like, I don't, you should never listen to me.
Right.
And these celebrities, like, when they think they have to infuriate.
Tell someone you're going to get me started.
Do you know how hard it is?
You're an anti-platformer.
I'm an anti-platformer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's exactly.
Yeah.
That's what the podcast was started.
We talk about, we're just trying to be funny.
It's great.
And it's like super funny.
It's in my stand-up.
I'm Rev Weber, by the way.
Huh?
Weber?
Oh, Aaron Weber.
Yeah, he's great.
He opened for us in Nashville.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And he's just super funny.
Who's the other guy?
Brian Bates.
He came out with me for a lot.
And everybody calls him like, some reason, the listeners started calling him names.
They call him like bacon bits and breakfast.
They won't call him Buzz.
What did I say?
He has a spokesperson energy.
Yeah.
He could definitely be a spokesperson.
Yeah.
For breakfast.
For breakfast.
Just the meal.
The general.
The general meal.
That's like, yeah, that's big.
You know, that was Teddy Roosevelt was the teddy bears named after him, which we talked about.
How crazy is that?
That's all you know a teddy bear is.
There's not like, I don't even know the name before that.
Right.
And so they made the teddy bear, and that's in honor of him.
But he wasn't even cuddling.
Cuddled that motherfucker.
He was a badass motherfucker.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I mean, I wasn't there.
It wasn't my decision.
Right.
But you act like I was a part of this choice.
Like, I got to defend it.
It's more information now.
It's no.
It is.
That's what they did in honor of him.
Right.
But I'm saying it's teddy bears, like, that's how you describe that thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, that's about the highest honor you can get to have a stuffed animal.
You go to any store.
Yeah, you don't, you go any store and you go out with like a, you have any teddy bears.
Yeah.
And it's not a specific thing.
It's in general.
Yeah.
It's pretty nice.
Yeah.
Now, you said you don't know anything about anything.
No.
What do you know the most about?
A lot of things.
Okay.
And no.
Uh, oh, I don't know.
I don't know.
Sports you.
Sports fan.
Yeah, I'm a big sports fan.
Golf.
Like that kind of thing.
You were getting into those like celebrity golf tournaments.
Yeah.
Early.
Yeah.
I'm trying.
Yeah, I'm getting in a little bit more now.
Now, but now it makes sense.
Yeah.
But I think it was like you were in early and I was like, oh, shit.
Who is that guy celebrating?
That's when I thought that you really had it popping.
You were like doing these, like you were golfing with like famous people.
Yeah.
And I was like, oh, shit, is Nate blowing the fuck up?
Yeah.
Yeah, it started.
When you're the celebrity in a group at the beginning, you're a big disappointment to that group.
Like they come up, dude, and they're like, what's up?
Who we got?
Yeah.
You got Jimmy Johnson.
You got a teddy bear.
They hand you the club.
Prejudging Everyone00:07:40
Has that really happened?
You got it, but you got to go put on a show.
Like, you're like, they're like, what do you do?
Like, I'm a comedian and you got to bring it up.
You got to be fucking funny, bro.
You got to be so in your, but you wanted them.
You're like, well, no, why don't y'all pay a little more money and you get up a little.
Like, this is, I'm disvalued.
Just donate.
You get more to this fucking cherry that you've been doing with Papa John's.
Yeah.
Instead, you got this.
You got me.
Yeah.
So, yeah, at the beginning, you are like, it's embarrassing.
Like, you got to go in.
Was it at all like, I don't even know what the word that I'm looking for right now.
But, like, you know how we coastal elites, like New Yorkers, and I'm guilty of this.
Like, we think everything's the fucking best, this, that, the other.
And then the second corona, the pandemic happened, all these like liberal states shut the fuck down.
The conservative states stay open.
Everybody's partying.
And then immediately, all these like liberals that got a little bit of money flit, ourselves included, right?
Was it a little bit like nice to see?
Or was there a part of you like, oh, now you want us?
Like, we're funny, we're a joke before.
Yeah.
But now when you want to go out for a slice of pizza.
Yeah, yeah.
You want, yeah, yeah.
It was, I mean, Nashville, we have so many people moving there from California.
Yeah.
And I mean, they're coming.
It's a, it's insane.
There's a problem.
There's 100 people a day move to Nashville.
And then it's a lot of people from California.
The wonderful thing is I think maybe some that a lot of them are going to Austin.
Yes.
And so like I'm in Austin.
Well, I think you go, yeah, you, our goal in Nashville is you're like, the ones we don't want go to Austin.
And then the other ones come to come.
I heard they just made Jews illegal in Nashville.
Yeah.
Oh, then we got to move there.
Yeah.
Is that true?
I don't know.
I mean, I didn't see it in the paper.
It was in the newspaper.
It was in, yeah.
No, yeah, I don't.
We, you know, I never met a Jewish person, so I live.
Is that that was a stereotype.
Here's your first one.
It's your first one.
No, I've been now a bunch.
You've met enough.
You've met your friends.
My buddy, Sven Wexler, I started coming with.
We moved to New York.
But it's funny.
That was always a stereotype where they said southern people hate Jews.
And you're like, I've never gone from Texas.
I didn't know what I knew Jews existed.
I didn't know that that was.
Like, it's like a, well, because white supremacy, but like they hate, and you're like, I don't know, dude.
You're like, I'm just not around any Jewish people.
Like, I don't know.
Yeah, I thought there just were none there.
Costa East.
Akash is from Texas, by the way.
And they treat white southerners the way they think you treat black people.
Like they look at you and they're like, look at this fucking uneducated, ignorant, lazy, blah, blah, blah.
And that's how they think you treat black people.
You know, it's funny.
I don't mind doing it, but like, if people from outside of America do it, I'm like, yo, slow down.
Those are our guys to make fun of.
They're your cheddar bob.
Exactly.
It's like you can make fun of your little brother, but nobody else can make fun of your little brother.
But I wonder, yeah, I don't know.
You guys don't have that relationship with us.
You guys just kind of like hate us up north, huh?
We, it's tough because, you know, when I lived there, so like Giannis, right?
We embraced you, bro.
Yeah, I know.
We loved you.
I know.
Well, I love, dude, I love New York, and all my friends are from New York.
And, but when, like, Giannis was a perfect example.
So when Giannis, when me and Giannis moved there, Giannis would always tell me, I have no culture, right?
And I was like, dude, you've never lived three blocks from your mom.
Like, I was in New York.
Like, I moved, I've changed my whole world.
And like, just because you're like, you know, you got a guy from Nigeria and then Jewish people and whatever.
And everybody from all these, you think like you get the world because they live near you.
And then I had an old joke about it where I said the melting pot thing, where it's like, New York's is a big melting pot, but just a bunch of pots don't live next to their own kinds of pots.
I mean, y'all not mixed in at all.
You have a Chinatown that you're like, don't come into this area, little Italy.
And like, you're like, y'all hate each other.
Like, I don't understand.
So that's what.
So moving to New York was a melting pot until like another ethnic group encroaches on your neighborhood.
Yeah.
And then it's a big problem.
Yeah, yeah.
Then we're not really a stew at all.
Yeah, yeah.
Ask the Italians in Brooklyn how much of a stew they are.
Yeah.
It's all big issue.
It's all the same dude.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah.
So no, I, we, you know, New York is, yeah, I don't know.
It's like you would feel that though.
It's like everybody just thinks you're like, what are you like?
Some everybody pre-judges you.
I remember a guy saying it once where they were like, it was like this gay dude.
He was like, oh, he goes, you know, Nate's from the South or something.
They're like, oh, he's like a Republican that hates gays and stuff.
And you're like, you're doing what you think I do to you and I don't.
Yeah.
And you're doing it to me.
And that's what's so crazy.
And then they tell you that to your face.
Like that person that said I was an anti-vaxxer.
There's some seriousness to what she's, what she said.
Yeah.
She said that.
And you want to go, I'm not, I didn't walk in here and think you're one thing.
Yeah.
I'm meeting you and just enjoying talking to you.
Yeah.
But you immediately say that and you say it to my face.
Yeah.
And like, don't even care.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Where you're like, you're like, and then you're like, why do you hate us?
You're like, I don't know.
Maybe that.
Maybe every you think I'm stupid, Rich.
Maybe I get an audition for they send you a movie audition for a southern guy and you're like, you got to be, I mean, you're just the most.
I remember you getting movie auditions and they're being like, you're going to have to yell the N-word.
You're like, why would I do that?
And they're like, oh, that's because what y'all do.
Like, you think that's what we do, dude?
And they think that is a, you're just a movie.
And that's the best part you think I can be is just this guy.
Yeah.
You're like, and you just don't do them.
What was the movie?
Dude, you and 12 years a slave would be hysterical.
That is what y'all did.
What?
12 years a slave would be accurate.
That'd be.
Yeah, there'd be a lot of yelling.
Yeah, a lot of N-word yelling.
Yeah, but I mean, you know, I grew up in, I was born in 79, so I don't know what the N-word's not in the 70s.
We weren't doing it.
They weren't, it wasn't happening.
I mean, they talk about that a lot, but like they think, like, you know, white supremacy, like, dude, I wasn't, I've been in the South my whole life.
I've never met a Klan member.
Like, I've never been around one.
Like, I don't know.
Yeah.
You know, I'm not saying that they don't exist.
You got to say that all the time, but like, I don't, they're not around me.
It's not like I'm just in the car with them.
Not as prevalent as people make it out to be.
I never make it like they're just, I mean, like, they're, yeah, like they're running the town.
And you're like, I don't know, dude.
We just grew up and like, we just grew up like everybody else grew up.
And why do you think that is?
You think it's just like movies and shit?
Oh, yeah, I think so.
I think so.
I mean, when you were growing up watching TV and movies, was it annoying?
We're like, why does everybody talk like me?
Stupid.
Or you don't even realize it until you realize it.
I didn't realize it until I moved to Chicago.
Like, it was, because, you know, when you're in Nashville, you're just around your, you know, everybody went to church.
Yeah.
Everybody went to, like, it was, uh, everybody was just, there was, you know, like, if you were a Christian growing up, I mean, everybody was.
I mean, you went to church.
Like, you would ask people where they go to church over, like, where they go to high school.
Like, that would be a very, yeah, you're like, well, what church you go to?
Then they would just tell you, like, oh, yeah, I know someone, I have a buddy that goes to that church.
Like, it was just, everybody went to church.
And, and then you moved to Chicago.
When I moved to Chicago, I remember someone, they were angry that, like, I grew up going to church.
And I was like, okay.
And because then they, but they think Christians, like Southern Baptist, they think, oh, this is crazy.
Then you're like, dude, it's just a regular church.
Like, we weren't, but to their head, they're like, y'all are holding snakes.
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I mean, they are, people are so judgmental.
Yeah.
And they judge so hard.
Yeah.
And, you know, stuff, bad stuff exists, but you're like, I don't, you know, there's a lot of regular people that are just minding their own business.
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What were you shocked by?
Like when you came to New York and LA?
Well, probably not as much LA, right?
Because you've already experienced it, but like New York specifically, what were you shocked by?
Were you expecting it to be way different and then it just wasn't?
I mean, it was overwhelming.
I remember, I'm trying to think of what specifically.
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I remember coming out of Subway once and being just very confused.
And like, you're just, it's very, very overwhelming.
It's so many people.
Yeah.
I guess like everybody, you know, I didn't think they were as mean as everybody said they were.
Yeah.
I thought New York wasn't like that.
Yeah.
Like you always hear that everybody's just super rude there.
And you're like, once you're there, I resent that.
Yeah.
Once you're there, I think it's the people who move to New York that feel like they have to live up to the stereotype of a movie.
They start acting mean towards one another.
But like actual New Yorkers are usually pretty helpful.
I think there's just an impatience.
Like they're trying to get where the fuck they need to get.
And if you're in the way of that, you're a problem.
Yeah.
But you know what?
If you're walking slow, you're a problem.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But you know, it's not going to be like, it's not going to be a long-drawn thing.
Like, you're not going to fight about it.
Like, right.
They yell at you and then they forget about you.
And like, so it's like you kind of learn to not take things personal.
Yeah.
And then, uh, because you're like, it's, yeah, it's like, dude, they want to just go.
And you're like, oh, yeah, sorry, man.
And then they just roll by you.
When, when you were like, because you probably came in New York and you were at the tail end of like the seller's heyday, right?
Like the old guard at the seller, you know, Patrice.
Oh, that was 04.
But when you actually started hanging around those guys, yeah.
Like, did you befriends?
Like, were you close with Patrice at all?
Yeah, yeah.
I used to sit in his car at Boston Comedy Club.
And so he wouldn't get on stage?
Yeah.
Because you couldn't park, you know, right in front of Boston.
Yeah, I remember.
And so I would go to the village when I was there.
Yeah, yeah.
And it flipped over.
Okay.
So you were there when I was still the Boston.
Yeah, I barked there.
That was my first barking thing in New York, too.
Okay, okay.
So Patrice, was he ruthless to you?
He was, so the, I've talked about it, but like he liked, I learned quick to kind of just whatever he would think we I am, I would just go with it.
So like he would be like, y'all not believe in dinosaurs?
And I'd be like, yeah, I don't.
Like, I would just say whatever he wanted.
You know, I've never thought about that ever.
Like, I've learned about dinosaurs.
Like, but the fact that he thinks we didn't, I learned, I was like, well, I'm, yeah, I was like, no, we don't believe in dinosaurs.
I would just go with it.
And so he was like very nice.
I mean, we would go to his house for fourth of the year.
The bar with the barbecue.
And like my wife would go over there.
And then he was very nice to my wife.
And he, because she would always like, I don't know, like help clean up after something.
He like loved that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so I Patrice was always very, very cool.
I met him.
I mean, until the last day, I would, every time I talked to him, I was like, hey, Nate, I'm friends with Big J.
I would say that.
And like at the end, he'd be like, yeah, dude, I know who you are.
You know, but you're like, I don't know.
You know, he was, he was the best I ever saw.
But I was at their fame.
He was at Burr and his HBO One Night Stand Taping.
You were there.
I was there.
Holy fuck.
And so, okay.
Let me just set this up to everybody listening.
There is like an unbelievable bit that if you don't watch the whole thing, I don't think it resonates the same way.
The whole thing with the pussy beam.
It was like, what would you do if you got in a horrible car accident where you lost your pussy?
Yeah.
You know that bit?
If you just see that within like the clip online, it doesn't get the full effect because there's like 20 minutes of buildup where the audience is kind of fighting back and forth and they're laughing, but at the same time, some of the women, the audience, are giving them some pushback.
They're looking at him like he's this sexist and you're objectifying us and all that.
When he dropped that, GBO also for the record used to do half-hour comedy specials.
And apparently they filmed Burr and Patrice the same night.
Yeah, so what?
So they did.
What was the reaction?
Have you heard that bit before?
I don't think.
I don't know if I even remember.
I won't remember that specific.
But then I remember them warming up to it, like or running their set, right?
And they're running at the Boston.
I remember one night I recorded, I timed Patrice's set because it was like they had to do a half hour.
And so when he got done, I was like, hey, you did like 36 minutes.
And I remember him being like, all right.
And then walked away from me.
And this is like, because he did it as a favor for he didn't ask me.
No, he didn't ask.
No, no, not at all, dude.
Like, he, this was like young comic, you know, trying to figure it.
I think I'm supposed to do it.
Like, I think at that time, well, that you have, it's called a half hour, so you have to do 30 exactly.
I have no concept of editing or like, you know, maybe you got to do 29 minutes, maybe do 38 minutes, like whatever the concept.
It doesn't really matter.
And I just, and I'm like, so I tell him, like, thinking I'm helping him.
He's, you know, I think he was like, all right, man.
Like, he, it did not matter at all.
And so the funny thing with, so I went, I went to one taping.
So the first tape, they did two tapings.
First taping, Burr went first, Patrice went second.
The second taping, they would have flipped.
Yeah.
So I was at the Burr first Patrice.
Yeah.
So what I remember the most about it was that was Burr's coming out.
And so when Burr went up, I mean, dude, I remember in that audience, this is when he's doing the Harlem.
It's hard to breathe.
The higher you go in Harlem.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's like, you get like a white guy gets up there, 120 street.
You're like, ah, kind of tough to breathe up here.
Like, that.
So the shoes joke, the dirty sneakers, yeah, something like that.
I remember Burr murdering so hard.
And I remember the audience, it was just, they didn't know what they just saw.
Like, he was so good that you could tell that they were like, yeah, who was that again?
Like, you know, because Burr wasn't known.
Like, he was, he was like, people in comedy knew him, but it wasn't, he wasn't, you know, I went to Caroline to watch him and they closed the curtain at Caroline.
Like, he wasn't selling out.
And they just, he, dude, he murdered so hard.
And then I think Patrice actually after him, it took a minute.
Had a tough time following him.
Yeah.
And I always say, you don't really have to, it's not like Patrice is not good enough to follow him, but it's just the room has to switch.
I got to reason.
The room has to be, and they, and Burr murdered.
And I, Patrice probably did it to Burr when they flipped.
But it, I just remember, because Burr, I think, was the one that kind of, you know, Patrice, it didn't really go crazy after that.
He, you know, his, his elf in the room is what really was the big one we were at that time.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we went into that.
So that was unreal.
Like, uh, but Burr's, that Burr to me, that was, he did that.
And then the ONA thing happened right after that.
I believe.
And then, so then it was like, all right, Burr's gone.
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And then, so then we, then we go to Carolines, and that's when you're like, hey, can we go watch?
And they're like, no, no.
You can't go in, no room.
And you're like, ah.
It is kind of crazy.
And I guess people listening right now, you're probably looking at most specials and assuming everybody there is a fan.
But back in the day, before you were popular, you did a special when you were kind of unknown.
Oh, they would pay the audience for free.
They give out tickets for free and they paid them.
Yeah.
Wow.
So like all the Comedy Central specials have a half hour or the what was called or something like that.
Oh, yeah, even the hour sometimes.
Sometimes even hours, you're not, you don't have a, you can't sell a feeder out.
Yeah.
Like it's, you know, so it's like, yeah, they're not, it's not like now.
Now it's like you don't get a special unless you can sell out that theater.
Yeah.
They just happen to be taping your sold out show.
That's what the special is.
Yeah.
That's the best part is like now you can kind of go like, all right, I'll pick, I'll go to that market anyway.
And you sell tickets and you're like, let's just film this.
Yeah.
And then so you pick where you want to film, which is, yeah, it's much different.
You're in front of your crowd.
Yeah.
But yeah, then you, yep, people are, they don't know why they're there.
When you film, do you like being fish out of water for a special for something you're taping?
Do you like being a little bit of a fish out of water to that audience?
Like, they know who you are.
They're familiar with you, but at the same time, they like the fact that you're a little bit different.
Or do you like being home team for a special specific?
Yeah, not just for a special.
I mean, well, the greatest, you know, one thing Seinfeld said a long time ago, they said, what the only thing that you miss like before being famous.
Yeah.
And winning them over.
Yeah.
And so, and I look, I can still win.
I can, I can go to a comedy club and it's, if it's not my audience, I'm not saying everybody just knows who.
Yeah.
You know, comics, we're not, it's not like it's, you know, I mean, like David Spade goes up.
You're like, yeah, everybody knows who David Spade is.
Yeah.
But with us, it's like, yeah, our audience knows, but I can easily go to a lot of people and they have no idea who I am.
Yeah.
But so it's when you do a special, it's going to be kind of tougher now to do it in front of a crowd that doesn't know you.
Yeah.
And you, I mean, you want it to, I think I just would want my audience there now just because we're there.
But it's like, well, depends on where you film it.
Like I don't, you know, last one I filmed in LA and this next one we think about like, I don't know where I would want, you know, possibly San Francisco or like I like filming in maybe a different place.
Yeah.
That's from where I'm at.
Just a just to be like, you hear this.
It's unique what they're hearing.
Yeah.
You know, if you're a San Francisco comic and you got a comic going up there doing like some super progressive, like woke stuff, it's, they've probably heard versions of those ideas throughout their life.
Yeah.
Right.
Maybe throughout their week, right?
They've heard that take on the riots or whatever it is.
Yeah.
But like when you go tape in a place where they don't know your perspective, your voice is interesting.
Yeah.
You know, like what you're saying, your opinions are interesting.
They know who you are.
They're ready for what you have to do, but it's still refreshing.
It's like, yo, fine.
Yes, this guy's different.
Yeah, he's different.
And so maybe you don't win him over, but you still get to be unique.
Yeah.
You know, to them.
I hate the winning them over.
I'm so glad that's done.
You don't like that?
That's stupid.
I fuck.
It was my least favorite part of comedy.
The first three minutes of comedy sucked.
Hated it.
Yeah.
Because I have to explain my, it's like, I would always look at some comics that they're like a big fat comic could just be like, I'm not going to fall over on you.
They'd like do some fucking mic so you can see me.
Exactly.
But what it did is essentially calmed everybody and got everybody on the same page.
Like I understand the magic trick that they're doing.
Right.
But when I would go up there, it's like, I'm like, I don't want to fucking, I know what you're thinking.
Yeah.
Like, I don't care about that.
Yeah.
I just want to talk about what I want to talk about.
Unfortunately, I have to like, you don't know what I, am I Jewish?
Am I fucking Italian?
Like nobody understands like what I am.
I use some like hip-hop vernacular.
So like there's all this confusion amongst the strangers.
So I just have to start out with a really funny fucking joke.
Yeah.
And then everybody goes, okay, whatever he is, that's fine.
Yeah, you're handcuffed by your lack of uniqueness in the sense that y'all are just straight white dudes.
Like there's like you, Patrice, the elephant in the room, when I walk out there.
Yeah.
Well, now it's more normal, but before I don't see a lot of comics that look like this guy.
So if I don't address it, they're going to be like, hey, buddy.
It's almost like a guy, like when I would do shows in Harlem, I just wouldn't talk about it or the Bronx forever.
And I bomb.
And then I realized it's like, they don't see people like me outside of the bodega.
So it's almost like a guy in a wheelchair going up and just doing jokes.
You're going to be like, not acknowledging.
This is not what's interesting to me about you.
Yeah, it's a weird thing.
It's like a gift and a curse, right?
But the gift, to finish real quick, to your point, to your point, the gift is, I know exactly what to talk about when I get up there.
Yeah.
Your curse is, what the fuck do you talk about when you get up?
What do you think I am?
Yeah.
You got an accent at least.
So something that's the guy that's got an Italian name, Nate Bargazzi.
And then he goes up there and starts speaking in a southern accent.
There's going to be a little confusion.
I'm sure you had bits about that in the beginning.
You had a funny joke about Italian family.
I'm an Italian family.
It was.
Do you remember all your old families?
No.
It was something about like he just stayed there or something.
Yeah, it was like something.
Yeah, I'm blanking on now.
Yeah, we're Italian and something.
I don't know.
Anyway, but like, I would think about that.
Like there were these like a gay comic that doesn't present as super gay.
Yeah.
That dude's got to come out every time.
Like the hardest thing in his life probably was coming out.
Oh, yeah.
And every time he goes, hi guys, I'm gay.
And then you got a few dudes in the audience.
He hears his parents' reaction every time.
He has to relive it.
So it's like, I understand how that's tough, but at the same time.
And I wonder if like, I always wonder that like with gay dudes in life, if they lean into the femininity, whatever that word is of homosexuality.
It's over with.
Yeah.
It's like, I don't got to explain to you what I am.
Like, I'm gay.
So you do got to learn.
So I do think the benefit I do have is the southern accent.
So, I mean, I was all.
You didn't change your shit at all.
Some people moved to New York and all of a sudden they started talking like us.
Yeah.
And your accent got stronger.
It was worse.
Like when I first met you, you were just speaking like neutral.
Yeah.
By the end, it was getting real.
Nate Barton.
Well, I always took it.
That's another thing I hated.
I hated when like southern people moved to New York and then they would trash the South.
Like I'm, I like someone to be proud.
I don't care where you're from, but I want you to love where you're from.
That's all I want.
I don't care where in the world you're from.
Just be way on board with your, like, love your home.
Yeah.
Like, so when people moved and then they started just trashing the South being like, right, they're a bunch of, you're like, yeah, dude, that's your family.
Like, you're embarrassing.
How about you go up there and tell them, like, no, we're good.
Like, we're not this.
Prince Harry.
That's what's annoying about it.
Yeah.
Rep your shit.
Why you be happy about it?
Be happy, bro.
You made millions of dollars doing nothing, dog.
Yeah.
You know, they don't, do they do anything?
I thought they like ran the country.
No, we're not.
Dude, I thought they were like in charge of like, you know, the traffic lights and stuff.
Like they're, like, I just found out they're like, it's turn them, turn them green now.
Okay, great.
But they're like, they're like the Kardashians, right?
Like, or something?
Yes.
Yeah, the Royal Kardashians.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is that crazy, dude?
People worship them.
Yeah.
Oh, my mom is like, it's a, if your, moms are way on board with everything that happened.
Yeah.
My mom has watched every like wedding, funeral.
I mean, hours and hours of it.
Yeah.
It's like a.
Why do you think?
I don't know.
I think it's, it's a soap opera, I guess.
And like, I do, I like it for that reason.
I like that my mom likes it.
And I like that that's like, it's, it's pretty cool.
And, you know, like, I think his brother and Kate Middleton or whatever seems very nice.
And like, seems like, I don't know.
I like the idea of it.
The queen's been alive forever, dude.
Like, that's crazy.
It's funny that she's the queen.
And then you're like, does she run anything?
You're like, no, no, we don't let her do much.
And you're like, all right.
Is there, should there be another, like, what's who's in charge of it?
They don't have, they don't have anybody.
Yeah, that's crazy.
So there's, they've never been in charge of anything.
I think back in the day, day.
Nah, yeah.
Back in the day before they had like a parliament and all that kind of shit, they did it, but they kind of just kept him around.
I think they keep him around because no one would go to England if it wasn't for that.
That's true.
Like the weather sucks.
The food sucks.
The people are not the best looking, right?
It's like all the reasons why you travel, they don't have.
And so if you don't have a castle or two or a palace or that clock or whatever, it's like, that's the first thing I went to when I was there.
Yeah.
I got to see the palace.
Why do I have to see the palace?
Because I guess it's, you know, royalty.
It's, that's their Empire State building.
Yeah.
That's their like Broadway, whatever.
I always think about like, why do we go places?
You know, like COVID, everyone went there because it was open.
Open was enough.
Like when we went to Nashville, but then Nashville has like a party vibe.
There's a, and I don't get me wrong, I know there's some elitism there, and but the party vibe in Nashville, like you could just go to those bars down on Broadway and it doesn't have that same thing like in New York or LA, like there's a club and the robe, you can't get in.
It's just like jam as many fucking people in here.
Maybe Kid Rock will show up and he'll play a few songs and it's just fun.
Yeah.
And that's nice when you're going on vacation.
You don't have to worry about getting rejected with the club.
You don't have to plan it.
You don't, you're just like, yeah, we go walk around.
Like, yeah.
Yeah, it's great.
It is great.
Nashville's very open in that kind of thing where it's, you're not like, you don't, yeah.
That, yeah, that list kind of, that stuff's exhausting.
It's exhausting, but southern culture does have that.
You guys do.
There is a bouginess.
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Don't do that.
There's a bouginess, man.
You don't think the golf club got a little couple requirements?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Those aren't Southerners.
That's rich white people.
That's just that culture.
Oh, is that?
Golf club culture.
That's not like New York golf clubs aren't going to be super accepting.
Yeah, I think they just started.
Yeah.
Like, I think they just started.
And they were kind of like forced to.
Yeah.
Even out in Long Island.
Yeah, it's going to take a little bit longer to get to the South.
Augusta is going to be a little slower, but like, I don't look at that as Southern culture.
I'm sure there's some pretension, but we try not to put on airs.
It depends on where you join.
I mean, some of them, some country clubs are the one I'm at, like, some are more blue-collarish.
Like, it's really just your thing.
The blue collars.
No, the one I'm at is.
You've already got Netflix specials there.
No, one I'm at is not, it's a straight up.
It's, it's like a lot of real golfers are there.
Like, so it's people that are serious about golf.
So there's the vibe of it is Vanderbilt, their golf, their team plays there.
Yeah, yeah.
And so like the vibe of it there is like, dudes are there to work, like to play and get good.
Explain something to me because you've been the biggest Vanderbilt fan.
Yeah.
Okay.
You did you didn't go to Vanderbilt?
Wow.
I know you've worked that out in your head.
Yeah.
Go.
We don't get that in New York, like, because we don't have college sports, right?
So we've never got on board with Rutgers for a little bit when they did good.
I was there.
We did?
Yeah.
Well, Rutgers was having like a really good year.
And then I remember everybody's like, oh, everybody's cheering for Rutgers.
And you're like, y'all just heard about Rutgers.
New Yorkers were caring about a New Jersey.
Rutgers was, had a great season when I was there.
And so that's, and it was like kind of like 0607.
Their games are.
0708.
Yeah, their games were kind of on TV more.
So then everybody's like, oh, this guy's here.
Ray Rice.
Yeah.
And then so.
And so, and so people were kind of excited about that.
They don't care.
But none of my boys, maybe it's different because I grew up in like Manhattan or whatever, but me and none of my, we never discussed college sports at all.
I didn't even know college sports.
I knew it was popular because I like heard about March Madness and these things.
We didn't watch March Madness.
I know this sounds probably crazy.
Never once growing up did me and my boys go, yo, we want to watch the games this Saturday with March Madness.
Didn't watch a single college basketball game until I was in college.
Yeah.
And our school made the tournament the year before.
I went to UCSB.
And then I saw what the fuck this thing was.
So break down the like the leap between I'm gonna I don't go to the school, but I love the school.
I identify with the school.
How does that work?
So it's not just the South, but it's like also the Midwest, like Ohio State.
All over the country they do it.
I feel like it's just New York that they don't do it.
It's it's you know, a lot of us didn't have pro sports.
So Nashville didn't have pro teams.
We didn't have the Titans.
So everybody's like really into college because that's all you can really root for.
Alabama?
What pro team is in Alabama?
So if there's no pro team, you just love the sport and that's the only opportunity to see.
So it's like, and you, you know, it's that town.
It's more of about the town and stuff like that.
So we didn't have the Titans growing up.
So a lot of my friends were University of Tennessee fans, but I was a Vanderbilt fan, which was in Nashville.
Yeah.
And Vanderbilt's like was notoriously struggling a lot back then.
And so no one was a fan of Vanderbilt then.
But I always think it's good to be a fan of a team that struggles.
Like it makes builds character.
Like you have to like, you don't just get handy.
You're not the Yankee.
You know, I remember LeBron perfect 90s.
LeBron was like a gandy.
LeBron was like a perfect kid for his age.
And he grew up in there.
He listed his favorite teams and it was the Cowboys, Yankees, and maybe the Bulls or something.
You're like, oh, was it?
Was it that hard struggle of just all of those teams won?
Yeah, didn't that nice struggle in his life?
Yeah.
He just won some wins.
But I'm saying, like, it's, there was a big generation of that where like people were fans of like teams that were like, there was no, they don't even know what it was like to lose.
Yeah.
Like, you know, that's like if you're a Patriots fan or Red Sox, but before they all started winning, like when you, if you, a long time ago, you struggled, dude.
Like, and then if you're like a kid, you're like, oh, I don't know.
We've never not won.
Yeah.
Like, that's all we've ever dealt with.
If you're a Boston sports fan, that's our age.
Yeah.
You don't know not winning.
Oh, yeah.
You remember a few years because the Celtics weren't good in the 90s.
Patriots were a joke.
Yeah.
And then the Red Sox never won.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I grew up in Dallas.
So the first three years I started watching football or four years, we won three Super Bowls.
So I was like, oh, this is what it is.
And then now I'm like, man, fuck, I would appreciate that if it happened now.
Yeah.
So I do think that's true.
Also, one thing college is culturally, it's a part of the South.
It's almost like I remember being like, I guess I got to root for a college team.
I just let you do it.
And I'll try to go to that college.
And then when I didn't go there, I gave up.
But it's just, it's just like sports is so central to life, football in particular.
Yeah.
You got to find a team.
That's the thing we love these colleges that would never let us in.
Yeah.
I don't get it.
We just care about the sports, man.
Like they like you ride your whole life for the school.
You buy the merch.
Oh, yeah.
And then all of a sudden you're like, I'd like to go and continue my education there.
And then they go, you're not good enough.
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That's insane.
How do you still root?
Well, there's not a college in America that would have let me in.
Like, so it's like, I mean, what am I?
You know, like, I went to a community college and then for a year, no credits, one year.
And then I did Western Kentucky for a semester.
Again, zero credits.
Failed bowl.
I failed bowling.
And I'm actually a pretty good bowler.
But like, once they made me keep the score on my, they're like, you got to write the score down.
You're like, I don't know how to do that, dude.
Like, that's why they all have the screens.
They keep it for you.
And the guy's like, no, you got to learn how to do it.
And I'm like, I don't care.
Like, and then that was it.
I didn't, I didn't learn.
But that was, so I could never get in these colleges anyway.
But you don't have any, you just want to root for something.
Like, we didn't have baseball teams.
We were the closest was like the Braves for baseball.
So that's because they were always on TNT, right?
Yeah.
It's only like two hours from Nashville.
Or TBS.
Yeah, it's real close.
Yeah.
A lot of people be Cubs fans because they were on WGN.
Yeah.
And so what you could see, that's why the Cowboys were always on TV.
So everybody became a big fan of them.
But yeah, I don't know.
You just, you like these college teams.
The older you get, though, the more it changes because it's crazy.
Because at first, you're like, these kids are all older than you.
Yeah.
And then you're like, then you're like, dude, I mean, I could have that kid.
And then, and it's weird to be so like you're, I love them, but you're, you learn to like kind of back off to be like, I can't be mad at an 18-year-old.
Like, you know, how young 18 is, you're like, and I'm furious at this kid.
Yeah.
You know, I used to follow him on Twitter.
If someone was thinking about going to Vanderbilt, I'd follow him on Twitter.
And then when they didn't, I would unfollow 17.
He's a 17-year-old kid.
Oh, it was weird enough, to be honest.
Oh, it's crazy.
It was inappropriate a little bit.
It's a little bit.
I'm trying to recruit them to go.
Look, if we had some crazy kid coming to Vanderbilt, I would definitely follow him.
I still follow.
I know a lot of the golfers now because they're at that thing and I'll follow them.
But then some of them I know.
But it's like some of them times, yeah, you follow them and then you're like, yeah, it's an 18-year-old dude.
Like, I don't, whatever they're posting, you're like, I don't care about any of this stuff.
But yeah, it's, I don't know.
It's interesting.
Yeah, it's just, yeah, it's funny.
You're following 80s.
Y'all were into the pros, though.
Like, I remember, you know, when I moved to Chicago first, because that's where I was first at.
I was there for like the Bartman.
Like, oh, shit.
I was there when all that.
I was, was, I was waiting tables.
And, you know, what's crazy?
So if you watch that Bartman ESPN documentary.
Clarify what it is for everybody.
What do you see Bartman?
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is the guy who they blamed the game six.
Which, by the way, after what they did to him, I don't think the Cubs, I wish they never win ever again.
And I would like that town.
I mean, what they did to him is insane to me.
So real quick, backstory.
It was game six, and Chicago is, I think, up 3-2.
So if they win this game, they go to their first World Series in like 100 years.
Foul ball.
They're up big.
On the Marlins, I think.
And then a foul ball is hit.
And whoever the Cubs outfielder is, he is going to catch this.
And the Cubs are going to win the game.
A fan reaches out, doesn't realize the outfielders there.
He's so excited to catch a foul ball, reaches out, grabs it, gets in the way.
The outfielder can't catch it.
Cubs fan.
Cubs fan.
And then the outfielder loses his fucking mind on the fan.
And then the Marlins come back and win that game and then win the series.
And the Cubs don't play.
Real quick.
That's right.
If he wasn't a Cubs fan, is he dead?
If it's now with the internet, he's probably dead.
Because think about that.
They couldn't really get to him like they did then.
If it was a Twitter and stuff like that right now, he's probably dead.
Like they would have, people would have started filming him and tracking him.
Like he could have, he at least was able to somewhat get away just because the internet wasn't like it was.
Oh, I meant that day.
Like imagine he was a fan, I guess, of Marlins.
Imagine he had a Marlins hat on.
Yeah.
And he disrupts the play.
And the saddest part of that whole thing, sorry, real quick, just you know the backstory.
I just watched, I actually watched one of the rare baseball games I ever watched.
You see him the rest of the game as the comeback is happening.
They keep cutting back to him and he's just staring straightforward, fucking freaking out inside, like, what is happening?
Oh my God, this is all my fault.
Everybody hates me.
You're just watching that for like 30 minutes.
And then whatever happened after, you can.
So the ball was way in the stands.
It wasn't like he didn't reach out at all.
Like the ball was, if he was, if he didn't move, the ball would have hit him in the head.
Oh, so you think that there's no way that maybe he catches it, but it's not.
There's 50 people.
A ball is coming at you.
If I throw you something, you're going to move towards it.
It wasn't that insane.
And by the way, they were up and then they lost.
Yeah.
So they got like his fault.
It wasn't this like, it wasn't he reached over and like he's, you know, boys loose having to jump kind of in the stands.
Maybe he catches it, maybe doesn't.
So they boot him, whatever.
And then if you watch the documentary, he then, a woman that works there takes him out of the stadium.
And she's like, we kind of got to go.
And then people see him because now he's been on TV all night.
So people see him and they're like, oh, we got to like get you off the streets because you will get killed.
And so the woman that works there takes him to her apartment.
So I'm waiting tables that night in Jake Melnicks, this restaurant in Chicago.
And so it was like packed.
We're all watching it on TV and all these Chicago fans.
And then, so my friend of mine that worked there, she goes home.
Well, she's roommates with that girl.
So how crazy it is, she just goes home.
Bartman's on TV.
It's the craziest thing in the world.
And she comes home and he's sitting in her living room.
And she's like, hey.
And then he's just like, you know, like just kind of watching the coverage of it.
This guy was such a fan.
He had headphones on.
He was listening to the radio.
Yeah.
And so play by play on the radio.
Oh, I think they put his address out in the paper the next day.
In the paper?
I believe in the Chicago Tribune.
I mean, I wish he sued them and where they don't exist.
I mean, they ruined that guy, never done an interview, never tried to get anything for it.
Now they've invited him to come back.
But it's like insane to be like, you ruined a guy's life.
And then I think they sent him a World Series ring.
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And you're like, I don't even care about that.
All these fans.
They sent him a ring?
Yeah.
Oh, they, because they, dude, they realize now.
What happened to his house?
He got like.
Oh, I mean, he couldn't go to work.
He had to go like, he's never been back.
I don't know if he's been back to game.
Like, he's never, but he's never done an interview.
This dude is a true.
This guy cares about Chicago more than those players do.
Like they, he wanted them to win more than Moises Alou probably cares about the Cubs.
Yeah.
And like, you ruined this guy's life.
Yeah.
And it's like, and I'm, they still, like, it was like 10 years later.
They're still with like Trow Bartman ruined that game.
Like just the audacity to do that to a guy is insane.
And I always thought that, I mean, they won, and I don't, I truly didn't think, I don't want him to ever, I didn't want him to win that one.
What you did to that guy is enough to be, I don't get over it.
Have you reached out to him?
To Bartman?
Yeah.
I am Bartman.
I have a real strong opinion about it.
You're like, God, you're really mad about that.
The whole time.
Like, no one knows.
Trying to get the word out.
Oh, fuck, dude.
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Okay?
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And yeah, just really appreciate you.
Really excited about all this.
So let's get back to the show.
Oh, golf.
Yeah, because this is amazing stuff.
Are you good?
PJ Championship.
I'm all right.
Like, what's your handicap?
Yeah.
I'm five right now.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
So you're almost a, what is it called?
Scratch golfer?
Yeah.
Well, it's very, this is where it gets tough.
Five to five to zero is brutal.
Why?
It's just, it's, I mean, you're, you got to be shooting.
You need to shoot under par some, and then you got to shoot even a lot.
You know, you just can't make that many mistakes.
You just can't.
Double bogies.
You've got to be gone.
And you got to make birdies.
It's hard.
It's very, and you got to be really good at putting and chipping.
How much is you love the sport and how much of it is I need me time?
I love the sport.
So, like, as we're doing this, the major PGA championship is on right now with the majors.
And, like, I think the sport is like unbelievable.
It's, I think, a lot like comedy.
It's on you.
No one else is out there.
It's you.
Yeah.
No matter what, like the course is like the audience.
Yeah, yeah.
You decide on how that show goes.
Yeah.
If you want this audience to be bad or good, it's up to you.
Sometimes it's windy.
Sometimes it's windy.
Sometimes it's not.
Sometimes stuff can go wrong.
It's unfair.
Yeah.
But it's on you.
You got to make your own career, your own life.
No one else can help you.
No one can make you do anything.
It's totally up to what you do.
So I love the aspect of that with comedy and that.
So I love as a fan, but then also it is that too for me.
Is you know, you're doing what we do, stand up, like in how much we're trying to think of jokes, trying to think stuff 24-7.
Our brain never shuts off.
It's a nightmare.
It's exhausting.
I want to be oblivious.
I would love to be like when you see someone that's just real oblivious, you're like, oh my God, dude, like, how great would that be?
Like, he doesn't know what's going on.
And you're like, I walk in a restaurant, you're like, I know everything that's happening.
You're Jason born.
Yeah, you.
But just with no real skills.
Yeah, you can't do anything.
You just know this guy's going to kill me.
And then he kills you.
And you can't fight back.
But it's, you're like overly thinking of stuff and you're just like, so exhausted.
So when I go play golf, it's like all your mind goes to focus on one thing.
And so it's a break because it can't shut your brain off.
Yeah.
But you just can I can put the energy into one thing and then I then everything kind of goes away.
So here's my question about golf, and this would drive me fucking nuts.
One hole ruins the whole 18 potentially.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
I suck at golf.
So I'm literally just trying to like hit one hole well.
The rest don't matter.
If I get one, that's the goal.
Yeah.
Right.
If I can shoot like, what is it?
One, if I bogey a hole, that's one over, that's a huge accomplishment.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
But for you, since you're so close to par, if you fuck up one hole badly, the whole four hours that you're out there is ruined, right?
Well, you got to try to get it back.
So like, a lot of times you got to mint.
That's a that's the mental aspect of it.
It doesn't break you.
You're playing so fucking well and then one hole.
It does break you, but the mental aspect is you got to get over that.
I mean, that's the, but again, it goes like everywhere.
You have to, you have to learn to deal with that.
Like you got to learn like, yeah, dude, you got a double bogey or triple bogey.
You don't just restart.
Let me just go back to one and just run it.
I mean, you want to.
So I played in our club championship, and I've one day I played really good.
And this is, you got to play by the rules.
Like everything's got to go in the hole, you know, the no-gimmies, all this stuff like that.
And so I end up getting, I get back-to-back eights.
So quadruple bogeys, back-to-back, quadruple bogeys.
And like, that's, I mean, that's bad, you know?
Like, it's not.
And so, yeah, I mean, your whole day is kind of shot there.
But then from that moment on, I thought, well, if I can just be even par from there on out.
Yeah.
And then I did that.
I ended up the nearest of the holes.
I shot even par.
I made a bogey, but made a birdie.
I kind of canceled each other out and at least made it to even par after those two eights.
So then I shoot like an 81 or something.
And what is the course?
72.
Okay.
Yeah.
Or 71, I think, is the course on that one.
So it's 10 over.
But an 81 is good.
And like, you know, for me, but that could have easily been a 95.
Right, right, right.
So like if you just let it go, you start going like, all right, let me calm it back down.
I'm just saying the mounting pressure.
Like, I do have respect for golfers.
I don't really respect a sport as a sport.
No offense.
But I do have respect for the mental aspect in terms of like the mounting pressure of you having the best game of your life.
It just gets that much.
It's like when a pitcher has a no-hitter.
Exactly.
Yeah, But yeah, that the entire time.
Yeah.
So that's what I mean.
Like, it's a, it's a no, that is a great way to put it.
It's a pitcher with no hitter the entire time.
But 18 innings.
18.
Yeah.
Okay.
So every shot.
And every shot is like that.
Yeah.
So, so, so when does when does it become, when is the pressure kicking?
Like the first three holes, if you're doing well, you're not going like, oh my God, this is my best time ever.
I'm going to ruin it.
Yeah.
Six, eight.
It's in there the whole time because you, but I would say the back nine is when it starts.
If you had a good round going, because you all, you're like, well, now I can just ruin it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so you start thinking of that stuff.
So all this bad stuff.
You know, it's like when you're on stage telling a joke and you ever have like, you ever think, you're like, all right, I got one joke left.
If I don't mess this joke up, this was a great set.
Mental Game Of Golf00:14:21
And you're like, why are you thinking that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or you're filming.
Yeah.
Like you're filming.
You're like, oh, fuck.
They didn't laugh at that.
As this whole show ruined, there's this whole joke ruined.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's these, those little things pop in your head.
That happens to golf.
So you think.
I actually struggle with that more.
Like even like doing shows, if the crowd is fire for every comic, I'm like, I can't be the one that fucks this up.
If the crowd sucks for every comic, I'm like, what do I have to lose?
Yeah, I'll go up and do it.
You know, it's so weird.
Maybe this is us like coming up in New York, but like, I'm weirdly comforted by a bad crowd.
Oh, yeah.
Like now I get to sell her way to go on and like some comic is up just fucking murdering.
I'm like, oh, God.
Yeah.
I got to bring them down to bring them back.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
But like when they're like a little bit like ornery, you know what I mean?
Like when they're kind of like a little disgruntled a little bit, maybe they don't trust it.
I'm like, this is home, baby.
This is every single time I went on stage.
And then you get to be a little like angry at them or a little dismissive to them.
And then there's like a little battle.
Then you get to that breaking point.
Yeah, yeah.
That is weird.
That is weird.
I don't know.
I guess so.
A guy like Tiger, did that make it that much more exciting in his heyday when he would like hunt down these players?
Tiger is so like, you know, they always, you always want to compare someone to Michael Jordan, right?
Yeah.
And really the only person you can is Tiger Woods.
There's no one really else.
Really?
I mean, as far as what they did, no one, I don't think anybody, Michael and Tiger are the same person.
And they're, it's, they were both the biggest stars of their things.
And they were.
Explain it to me.
Well, I mean, so when Tiger came, actually, you know, being a black golfer, like was not, no one, there wasn't that many.
There were, there was a, there was a lot before him, so it's not like they're not.
Yeah.
But it was, but when Tiger took, Tiger took it to another level that where Jordan did, where you're like, well, just everybody's on board with this guy.
We all worship this guy.
This guy's the biggest star on earth.
We all want to be him.
They loved what they do.
They like Jordan, you know, like you see, like Jordan LeBron, right?
Like, I was always a big LeBron defender.
I'm kind of bouncing all over.
I have a big theory with Kobe, too.
Like, I missed out on Kobe because I was too into Jordan.
So that's our generation.
Same exact thing.
Kobe was too close to us that I didn't, that's my only, I wish I would have appreciated him and watched him.
Because we saw so much Jordan.
We saw so much Jordan that it was like, it was hard to.
It was like, all right, I can't.
This is too much.
I'm watching the same movie.
I can't.
I gotta.
But now you look at it, you're like, oh, he was a killer.
I wish I would have watched it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I look at LeBron, I was able to kind of get back into LeBron because I was like, I was, I was, I was like a generation removed.
I go, okay, I'll watch this guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then so, but like you see with LeBron and Jordan, like Jordan didn't like talk about himself at all.
Like he didn't, you know, LeBron starts, he tweets a lot of stuff how great he is.
And you're like, you're kind of like, all right, dude, you're like killing me here.
Like, I want you to be the guy, but Jordan's quiet.
Jordan, I don't know, was like humble.
Didn't have Twitter.
Didn't have Twitter, which is not at all.
Yeah, not well, uh, but if you asked him if he was the greatest, he never said yes.
Like, he was like, oh, no, no, the other guys are humble in that aspect.
I think he would say he's the greatest.
I think they asked him, and he said he was, he goes, no, it's not.
The only guy who could beat me or could come close to beating me is Kobe because he stole all my moves.
Yeah.
When did he say that?
But I thought they asked him.
We're just going to remove Jordan from Nate.
They love Jordan.
Yeah.
Find out who he is.
Really, Jordan's not that good of a dude.
He would punch people in the face that disagree with him in practice.
So there's the social media aspect, I guess, that you don't hear all of this stuff.
I know he's aggressive in that way.
Yeah.
But it's, but I'm like, that's about his practice.
That's actually more tiger-like to me is they're fucking killers.
Yeah.
But everything stays right here.
Yeah.
And they don't.
They didn't have Jordan had a couple friends in the league.
Tiger didn't have any friends on tour in his day.
He is a island.
I was an island.
I was saying with LeBron, like there's a weakness to him.
Who am I to fucking call LeBron weak?
He just squats.
There's not a weakness.
I just think if you talk about the two greatest, I think it's Jordan LeBron, and then you can have the conversation outside of that.
Oh, wow.
I don't like when people drop, people like drop LeBron like it's like garbage.
I mean, him winning three championships at three different teams.
To me, if he gets to five championships, that counts as a sixth to me in the fact that he did it at three separate teams.
So now you're like, yeah, he maybe you can go try to say he doesn't have six.
He won at three different teams.
That's pretty wild.
It's hard to build a team around.
That's what you're saying.
It's LeBron and Jordan.
That's the conversation.
And then it's always funny that no one ever people always say the championship thing.
And you're like, oh, okay.
So you want to talk about Bill Russell?
They're like, get out of here.
I don't talk about Bill Russell.
You're like, well, then we're not talking about a championship thing.
There wasn't any black guys in the league.
Like Bill Russell.
But he won't was there.
There's one.
That's a pretty good one, though.
He was pretty good.
He was pretty good.
But there were eight teams, like 12 teams.
Like, it was a different thing.
It was different.
But I hear what you're saying.
I mean, the greatest winner in history.
Yeah.
Bill Russell.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
But the LeBron thing, I don't know.
When I meant weakness, I meant like there's an emotional weakness.
There's an ego weakness.
And I think that's what you're talking about with the two.
He's trying to prove himself over and over.
He's like, no, no, no, I'm doing good.
I am the guy.
Yeah.
I'm going to crush you.
Everybody did it for him.
Everything did happen.
Everybody, everybody, like fans and everybody wrote how great he was.
They did it.
Jordan did it.
Jordan didn't come out and go, I'm the greatest.
Yes.
That's doing like Jordan.
That's what I mean by humbled.
Like, I'm not saying he's humbled, but he didn't.
There was no things going.
He would confidently answer a question.
Yeah.
But he never, I mean, LeBron just tweeted that he's the 25 points per game thing.
Yeah.
He tweeted where everybody was.
Or he posted it.
He posted it.
He's also.
The feature report didn't post it.
Yeah.
He posted it.
And he's reacting to people.
Yeah.
It's like you're like, say the whole post because it's kind of funny.
It was like, he said, I don't know.
Y'all never saw me as a scorer.
Well, that's how I wanted anyway.
It's like, who's saying that?
Yeah, no one, he goes, I'm a past first guy.
I'd be like, yeah, dude, I think there's an argument.
You're the greatest talent to ever play basketball.
Then when I say he's better than Jordan or whatever, I don't know.
LeBron's, no one's built like that, dude.
No one's that big and runs that fast and can pass that good.
I mean, the core vision is a good thing.
It's crazy, dude.
Yeah, yeah.
LeBron's, it's bananas.
Yeah.
But like Jordan, like, I don't know, it was like the more you're like, he just didn't hear all the stuff.
Now they did grow up in two different eras.
But anyway, back to the Jordan Tiger thing.
That's why they're the exact same person.
I just don't get Tiger.
Well, it's crazy, dude.
You missed out.
I'm just not impressed.
Well, that's insane.
That falls apart over golf from Pussy.
There's a great book about everything a Tiger.
And the documentary covered a lot of it, but just like the guy was raised to be a fucking killer.
His dad damn near gave him PTSD, just like yelling at him on the golf.
Yeah, no, but it was weird.
The stuff his dad is doing is like trying to break him on the golf course.
And he said to Tiger, if it ever gets to be too much, you say this one word and I will stop.
It's a safe word.
It's a safe word.
Tiger never used a safe word.
He would call him the N-word.
He would like fucking berate that you would think shit.
You suck.
And Tiger wouldn't fucking break.
This kid is.
But then he broke.
He broke with bitches.
I mean, eventually.
Bitches break men.
But he did pretty good until he broke.
I mean, but that's kind of golf tournament.
Tiger probably would have broke if they would have had, you know, if like the error that he would have, like all those guys do.
That guy's unbreakable, dude.
If they would have doesn't care about a different level of basketball for two years.
He had a fucking Hitler mustache, bro.
Yeah.
Nobody breaks him, dude.
Yeah.
I do whatever I want to do, however I want to do.
But he did quit basketball for two years.
He retired very early.
And then he came back.
So he was broke, though.
I don't think he was broke.
I think he had some beef in the league.
I mean, there's a lot of conspiracies about what that is, but I think it was just like, oh, you're not going to tell me what I do.
I do whatever the fuck I want.
If the Tiger thing, though, so the golf, if you think it's like, I know it's like the idea, like how good.
John Daly, for instance, people think he's just this fat guy.
You know, the hand and eye coordination he has.
I saw him actually play two weeks ago.
And we were all hidden in this kind of this celebrity kind of thing.
And so we're 150 yards from a hole and there's 200 people watching and they made all the celebrities hit just you know to get close to the hole, whatever.
And if you made it, you would win.
And so like the pressure of hitting with 200 people watching is wild.
All you're thinking is like, I want the ball just to go up there.
I don't even care if it goes near it.
Just don't duff it.
Don't slide it.
Don't like shank it.
And so everybody's hitting.
And then John Daly goes last, pretty drunk, and he hits it.
This guy's 50-something years old.
And dude, the ball just never leaves the flag.
It doesn't go in, but it just, the flag's here.
The ball goes directly over the flag.
Do you know how insane that is, dude?
You know how hard it is to hit a golf ball?
It's so hard.
It's really hard.
It's really, really hard.
And it looks like it shouldn't be, which is frustrating.
When Tiger won that Grand Slam where he won every major and they didn't think that nobody's done that, dude.
Nobody's his, so a handicap.
What happens when real athletes start playing golf, though?
They do play golf and they don't do good.
Do they, though?
They do go play golf.
Michael Jordan's played golf during the NBA.
Michael Jordan.
He beat Tiger Woods in golf many times.
No.
This is this is known, dude.
Yeah.
You don't.
You're just trying to say it like to go, these are real athletes.
But they're learning golf late.
I'm saying, what happens when real athletes go in?
Not like John Daly, but like a real athlete.
Dude, Dustin Johnson.
Phil Michelson's a real athlete.
He's an accountant.
All these guys are accountants.
Like, what happens when there's guys that actually have like, you know, fast twitch muscle fibers, like real athletes, they start playing golf?
What they do, Dustin Johnson could have, I think, played basketball somewhere, like in college.
He could have done all that.
He is a real athlete.
Brooks Kepka.
These guys did.
Tiger changed that.
Now these guys are all jacked.
Now they're fucking jacked.
Now they're in shape and they're good at golf finally.
Yeah.
What Tiger did in his run was unreal.
Handicaps, right?
Yeah.
So if I'm a five handicap, and then you get to zero is scratch, then you start going plus.
Yeah.
So plus is good.
So a lot of golfers are plus five, six, seven, eight.
Yeah.
When Tiger was at his best, I believe he was a plus 10.
So that means every time he goes out to play, your handicap is basically what you 10 of the holes he's under par.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
If he, if he played me, and then the rest par.
Rest of apart.
So what your handicap is what you're capable of doing.
Yeah.
So if I'm, if I'm a plus five, I can go shoot under par, but like I can also go shoot a 77.
That's what my abilities are.
Right.
And then so his capability, every course that he walked on, if it's a par 71, he can go shoot a 61.
That's but imagine like Antonio Brown.
He could do like a 55.
Yeah.
Like somebody that actually was built to do, you know, cool physical shit.
Tom Brady.
Here's why you'll never know because those guys will never play golf.
Why?
Well, they do go try.
You watch them go play.
But they don't put the same effort in.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like, what if they put the exact same effort in?
Golf.
You know what I mean?
Chess.
You know, it's a sport, but it's more mental than anything.
It's chess.
It's so hard that you.
John Woods was an athletic chess player.
Yeah.
Ah, like an astronaut.
He's an astronaut.
Gotcha.
Where you have to be physically fit, but you also have to be like smart.
Mentally strong.
Mentally strong.
It's so hard that you dismiss it like the way you're dismissing it.
That's how hard it is.
I'll be honest with you.
It's like that you're just acting like you're trying to say Tiger's not good because you're that's how hard golf is that you just were like, no, none of them are good.
Can I be honest with you?
Sometimes I'll see my fiancé cleaning, right?
She'll be like sweeping, and I'll be like, that's golf.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what I think golf is.
Yeah.
It's kind of sweeping.
Something that's clean.
Clean it up.
That's what people tend to do with something that's unattainable.
They go, well, but they don't do that with stand-up, right?
They're like, oh my God, it's the hardest thing.
I would never want to do that.
But everybody goes to the golf and like everybody wants to do stand-up.
But that's the most terrifying thing in the world.
It is the most terrifying.
But I mean, having people.
There's no celebrity stand-up tournaments.
There's a lot of celebrities that just get into stand-up, though.
But they're poor now.
I know, but I mean, but they go to terrify them.
Yeah.
The celebrity tournament's not like everybody's good.
Everybody's real bad out there.
I'm just trying to say, you don't think that, like, let's think of an athlete, Dwayne Wade.
You don't think of Dwayne Ronaldo, fucking Ronaldo, Messi.
These guys do play.
And they're, yeah, if they, if they dedicated, it's just different.
The hand-eye or whatever they're good at, the pressure and the hand-eye coordination, all that stuff's like a little bit better.
Like, and that's where I think golfers come from.
I mean, they're real, they are athletes, dude.
They got to go, you got to play 18 holes with every hole, is that much pressure?
Right.
Mentally, that's, it's just a different thing, dude.
Like, it's mentally.
It's, you're, you're just, it's one movie.
It's a different sport.
I'll be honest with you.
I think I could be a scratch golfer.
Scratch is par.
Yeah.
If I if I worked on it for six months to a year, I think I could get it down.
If you can get to scratch, I'll give you $100,000.
If you can get to scratch golfer, if I can be a scratch golfer, yeah.
I think if you get in these guns, I'll do whatever you want.
So I think if I six months to a year, I would have to dedicate myself full.
Like I'd have to at least spend, I don't know, I'd have to go golfer.
I'll let you do it every day.
You have to golfer.
I don't need every day.
I would go like maybe on Sunday, maybe on Saturday as well.
And then if I could do it two times a week, I think I could, I think I could be a scratch golfer.
I'll give you more than $100,000.
If I could do it?
Scratch golfer?
Yeah.
In a year.
Six months to a year.
I think between six months and a year, I'd be able to hit it.
Probably around the nine-month.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
But I'd have to do it at least two days a week.
I'd have to do it at least two days.
I'm going to have $20 million, but I'll get it.
I'll figure out how to do it.
You would give me a million dollars if I could do that.
If you can get to scratch golfer to now, unless you're lying and I don't know that you're some golfer or something, that you're not.
I'm from New York.
Where would I golf?
Yeah, there's nowhere.
There's nowhere to go.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
Six months to a year, actually.
But if I just focused on it, like if I actually went there and I looked at the ball and I tried to hit it straight, I think I could do that.
Yeah, absolutely.
He also thinks he can beat Ronda Rousey in a UFC movie.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, I could definitely do that.
I think that Akash could also do that.
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Yeah, I'm not on board with this one.
She beat Turtle in Entourage, so I doubt it.
Wait, in an actual fight or in Entourage?
The show on.
Oh, it was the show.
Oh, fuck.
Okay.
Because then I was about to think about that.
Yeah.
Because he's littler, but he's still a guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
I mean, look, I don't want to ruin golf for you or anything like that.
I'm just saying it's.
I mean, you're not ruining.
You won't ruin it for me.
I love how much.
You'll be rewarded by it.
Yeah.
Because you don't.
Because I actively do play every day trying to get to zero.
And you also have like, you have like a golf thing, right?
Yeah.
So that's.
Oh, yeah, dude.
And I can't do it.
What do you mean?
I can't get to zero.
I think you can get to zero.
Have you tried planning?
I actually need a million.
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I'm going to try to get some.
Will someone give me a million if I can do it?
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Living A Healthy Life00:15:30
Nate, before you go, please tell everybody where they can see you.
I know you got a tour coming up.
I know you got the special.
Just everything.
I mean, the podcast.
Yeah, the Nayland podcast.
It's on YouTube and like all, you know, whatever all the podcast stuff is.
Yeah.
And it's really funny.
You guys have great clips.
I mean, like, I always watch the clips that pop up on your page, but it's really funny.
Yeah.
It's just being funny.
It's like, we're not trying to, you know, and I don't, I don't talk about it that much.
Like, what?
The podcast?
I don't know.
I like where it's, but it is very, I enjoy it.
I think it's helped my stand-up.
Really?
You know, because I think that was the hard part.
When, you know, when you get off, when you leave New York and you're not doing spots and you really kind of start doing the road.
You start develop your ideas.
And spots don't really mean anything.
You don't really need spots as much.
Yeah.
You don't want them as much.
I think to be the better comic, you got to go learn on the road and you got to learn to like, you're a show.
Yeah.
When people come to see you, you're the show.
They need to see the show.
And so, but doing this podcast and being funny and, you know, it's like, it's a good muscle.
It's kind of back to like New York when it was like, that's what made so fun in New York is like busting balls and all that kind of stuff.
Yeah.
So Nayland podcast, specials, the greatest average American on Netflix.
And then, yeah, the tour, the rain check tour.
A lot of the dates have been put up.
Brand, it's all new material.
People always wonder that.
You ask that a lot.
And then I'll be coming to a lot of cities.
A lot of cities are not announced.
That's the big thing, dude.
People, they're like, yo, when are you coming here?
You're like, yeah, dude, when do I, do I give off the vibe that I don't tour?
Yeah.
Like, we're going to Wichita, dude.
I'm coming to Dallas.
All right.
So, like, let's not worry about it.
Like, I'll be there.
Like, but these are the dates.
So they're all up.
They all went up now.
And then, yeah, I'll be in Naples is my last kind of club date.
What are you doing?
Off the hook.
Off the hook.
Yeah.
Dude, I remember I did that there.
Is it still in the restaurant?
I don't know.
I haven't been there.
I don't know.
I don't know if I've ever...
I think I've been there once.
I don't know.
Oh, dude, I had a bad bomb in that place, man.
Yeah, a lot of, I've heard of mixed.
I'm hoping that it's, I think it's, you know, when you get your.
I think they changed it.
I think they changed it.
And if you get your fans there.
Okay.
It's amazing.
This is way before that.
And I just heard them frying shrimp.
Yeah.
Like I heard the shrimp get dropped in to the grease.
You just hear like this, guys.
That has shows where you hear the cooking.
That shit is the worst, dog.
I mean, like, one thing is like hearing ice in a drink.
And you're like, okay, I guess that kind of understands.
I was kind of loud.
But like when I could find, I knew what they made.
I heard the grill, dog.
The motherfucking burger.
It's so quiet.
Son, it's sizzling.
It's not even that loud.
Literally a few minutes before, I'm listening to the girl put the order in.
So I know the order, right?
And that's loud because nobody's laughing, right?
And then a few minutes later, I just hear, it's popcorn shrimp.
Yeah, it's almost ready.
She sits there.
She goes, I think they're almost ready.
It's coming.
It's coming.
That is funny.
Like when you hear afterwards, you're like, dude, could y'all calm it down with the noise?
And they're like, I mean, I set silverware on the table very, you're like, why don't you do better?
You're like, start up.
All right, maybe I should be doing better.
Could you guys, how loud is that soda machine back there, man?
Is there a microphone by it?
They're like, that's the restaurant next door.
That's how quiet you made it.
Oh, dude, man.
Some bad bombs.
It's a bad bomb.
You're a bomb in comics, you know, comics comedy club in Connecticut?
Yeah.
One in the casino.
Oh, yeah.
Foxwoods.
Foxwood.
Yeah, yeah.
I heard a guy win.
I don't know what game he was playing, but I was pawn so hard.
And I guess one of the doors open or something, I just heard a guy go, whoa!
Everybody in that fucking room just bomb with me, looking out like, oh, we could be out there winning.
What the fuck do you drag me in here for?
It's the quietness is just wild.
Yeah.
When you're bombing, that's the, it's something special, man.
It's like when you're doing it and you're like, dude, you're in it and no one's laughing and you hear everything that's going on.
Yeah.
It's, it's pretty wild.
It's an experience.
Do you ever want to go up though when it's bad?
You know what?
Like we talked, I was talking about earlier.
When someone's like, yo, dude, this, this show is terrible.
And like, I remember me and Giannis did some show in Long Island and they were, they weren't even listening.
Like you could go on stage as a comic and do a set and 80% of the crowd would be like, oh, I didn't even know there was a comic on stage at one point.
Like they, which is wild, dude.
Yeah.
To be going, like doing New Year's Eve shows.
Yeah.
I remember hosting those in New York and you would, you're, you would go up, you know, like they get the show done and there's still like 10 minutes before the ball gets dropped.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so they're dropping checks and people are just talking and you're in a, you're talking in a microphone and you're like, this is pretty surreal.
Just big, I'm on stage doing what my dream is.
Yeah.
And there's people that if you asked you like, hey, do you remember when I went on stage?
They would be like, no, I don't even know who you are.
And you're like, dude, I was in front of you.
I mean, that's like, it's crazy.
It's unbelievable to have to deal.
Like, you have to emotionally deal with that.
I was in front of you for 20 minutes.
Yeah.
That's a long time.
That's a fucking sitcom, bro.
Yeah.
It's in front of you.
And you walk out and they're like, I didn't even, I didn't even see you.
And you're like, the microphone was on, man.
It was on.
It's not like it was off.
I was the loudest thing in the room.
And they go, oh, I thought it was like, I don't know what I thought it was like a newscast.
Yeah.
I thought they turned on channel two or something.
We were watching the ball drop.
Yeah, they were those shows.
They had shows in the city where like nobody, I think, told the people in the restaurant there was going to be a show.
Oh, yeah.
You know, like, what do they call it?
Like kamikaze comedy or something like that?
Yeah.
Ambush.
Yeah, like an ambush show.
I think they did a show at a laundromat too.
Like, yeah, they were just these places.
Like, this is what comics do.
Like, they find places where there are people will be.
We're parasites.
Any host that will have us, he will come suck the business out of your store.
But there was a time where we would like have to promote it.
Yeah.
And then comics got savvy.
They're like, well, people are always waiting for the bathroom.
What if we do the show in front of the bathroom?
Yeah.
You know, and they did it on a laundromat.
So we just needed people.
Yeah.
Just people.
We needed bodies.
Bro, the laundry body.
New York would be get in front of people.
I remember going to a Broadway comedy club and you're bombing.
And you're like, where's everybody from?
Like, does anybody speak English in here?
And it's like a room of like Asian tourists.
Yeah.
And not one spoke English.
And they're just there kind of for the experience.
Well, they're there for Dave Chappelle because they were told that Dave's bad.
Yeah, yeah.
And you're just bombing it.
And then you're like, does anybody really speak English?
And everybody's like, not really.
Like, you know, they don't just not really.
Not really.
You're like, okay.
And then you just bomb for 10 minutes and you get out.
Yeah.
That's what that stuff.
Oh, by the way, that's the highlight of your day.
Like the whole earlier part of your day, you're going, tonight, Broadway comedy.
You're building up to that.
Oh, you're tweaking little words in the set.
Well, I'm going to try this.
A new joke.
It's like a Game of Thrones finale.
Like, that's what I waited for this whole time.
New York was good.
I would say New York was like dog years.
That's why New York comics to me are always so great is like, because we get up so much over an eight-year period.
Like, I went up every day for eight years.
Every day.
You age in time on stage.
Like, there are comics, you go to certain places, they've been doing it 12 years, but they've really been doing it like a year and a half.
You get a 10-minute spot once a week.
You're not aging quickly in this comedy.
No, if we had a bad show, I mean, you know, the most I ever did was seven in one night, which is too much.
But average would be like four, it gets a lot.
Four, yeah, three to five would probably be about your average.
For, you know, at the beginning, you're only doing one.
Yeah.
But you could go hit multiple open mics.
But then once you kind of get in the clubs, you're doing, you know, probably four.
And so four a night, dude, that's a lot.
Yeah.
You can fix a joke.
Like, you'd see it evolve.
You see it evolve.
That's what I miss.
Like, we came down here so we could start doing stand-up again.
And obviously you get out of New York because it was just so locked down.
But what I do miss is having an idea that has no punchlines.
It's just something funny about it.
And then going on stage and like working it out with that audience.
That's the only way I learned how to write.
Like I did not learn how to, or I could talk to like my friends about it.
Oftentimes like talking to non-comics is really helpful.
Yeah.
Because they're not like looking for it.
You're just having like a pretend.
You got to mix it in.
Yeah.
You're like a pretend serious conversation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So like, but that's always makes you be more conversational.
That's why I like doing that sometimes.
It's like you try to not like you're doing it, you're acting in front of them.
But you could kind of like, but you get it.
And then if you can, if you can say, if I can say it to you and it'd be funny in this conversation, then it'll be funny.
Then it'll be, yeah.
Conversation.
I like being conversational.
That was a big Burr and Patrice thing.
Like that's, they would always say, I would ask, like, do you write everything out word for word?
And they'd be like, no.
Because it's like, then it gets too scripted.
Yes.
And so you don't want to be scripted.
You know where the jokes are.
You know where the laughs are.
And it's not bad if a couple things change.
Yeah.
Like if some people always tell me, like, well, you did that, you didn't do the joke the same as you did it the other night.
Yeah.
And I'm like, it's not a bad thing.
Yeah.
It keeps it fresh for me.
Keeps it like a little, like, you know, I don't want to miss the main part.
Yeah.
But it's overall, you're like, yeah, it should be a little flowing.
So it's always I want to be a little surprised when I'm telling you.
I want it to feel like it's, I mean, if not the first time, but I want to feel like it's a little bit different.
Sometimes, and I know this is maybe bad habit, like I kind of like getting a little lost in it.
Yeah.
Like I'll flip an order of something on purpose.
Yeah.
And like try to like work myself out of it.
Yeah.
Because I don't know.
It feels if I always feel like if I feel alive in the moment with it, then they'll feel my energy.
Yeah.
You know?
I've thought about golf.
I've thought, so golf has a lot of mental coaches.
We're doing golf again.
The disrespect you show Tiger Woods is bananas, dude.
What do you mean?
The guy that couldn't hold it together?
Yeah, he held it all.
He just walked on grass for a living.
Yeah.
That's a teaser.
I mean, he's the greatest.
He's my favorite.
He's probably my number one.
If I could ever meet Tiger Woods, is my number one person.
Really?
That's it.
I love him, dude.
Number one, number one.
Number one, number one.
Jordan would be there too.
If you have a sister, he'd probably be into.
Huh?
Yeah.
He liked them white.
Yeah.
He liked them white.
Yeah.
That's not all his fault either.
You know, his dad used to, like, when they would, when they was a kid, he'd go to a golf course.
His dad had a Winnebago.
And as he's practicing, his dad would just take women into that Winnebago.
And he's married.
So he's like just cheating on his mom and Tiger's watching it.
Yeah.
Like toughness for mental toughness.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He never said the safe word.
He never said the safe word.
They didn't either.
Sex joke.
We got it.
I knew it was him, bro.
I knew it.
You react to the world.
You tricked me, dude.
You tricked me.
See?
My mom comes.
I'm like, I'm sorry.
My mom cat and me.
I just never think like that.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Immediately.
That's the whole thing about dude.
Once we're done with this, I'm like, yo, dude, I have real big problems with this stuff.
I just can't.
Andrew, you're hitting a little close to home.
I have a big, but the midship.
The mid-sex joke addiction.
The mental joke, the mental aspects, how to be mentally, they tell them how to teach them.
And I thought about that with stand-up where you because you can catch yourself wandering and you're not in the moment and you're like, I need to be better about being in the moment.
And so it's like that kind of aspect too is another reason that it compares.
Dude, that's so funny.
Like I always think about like what can I do outside of comedy to be better at comedy?
Like, I know it sounds weird, but I look at these athletes and they're like, okay, they're like, if LeBron's playing basketball, but he's also like doing fucking yoga and ballet and all these other things to get his footwork.
I'm like, what can I do in stand-up?
Is it mean like I'm reading things and increase my, it's experience.
I think it's experience.
You just go do stuff.
You go put yourself.
Go do something that's uncomfortable.
Yes.
If your girl wants you to go to, you know, we're going to go eat with these people.
Yeah.
You don't like them.
Well, you need to go.
Yes.
Oh, we got this dinner party.
Okay.
I'll go.
Like, go do these kind of things that you're like, you would normally be like, I'm not going.
And then go.
That's the put stuff together.
Like, you know.
Dropping in, right?
Yeah, I mean, that was, I mean, when we were on the road, that's what I would do back in the day.
The reason I would do these vlogs was to get out of the hotel.
Yeah.
Because I'd realize I'd be in Columbus, Ohio.
I'd be in the room and I'd wake up at noon.
I'd get some food and then I'd go back into my hotel and then I'd talk to 300 people.
I'd talk to nobody.
And then I talk to 300 people.
And I was like, I just got to go out and like do this.
And then I started going out to do things.
And all of a sudden, I had shit to talk to these people about about their hometowns.
It was really fucking kind of interesting and cool.
It was okay.
But like, what if there's a mental aspect outside of just experiences?
What if it's like, you know, when you're feeling like you're most secure and confident and you go on stage and anything that happens, you can bounce off of in the best way.
Like, I bet there's athletes that like, I have to be in a good mental state to perform well in the playoffs.
Like, what can I do to make sure my mental state from when LeBron was reading?
Fake reading.
Yeah, he was going through them fucking kill a mocking bird.
No, what was it?
The Hunter Hunger Games.
I didn't tell you the story about that.
No.
Oh, this is crazy.
You know, LeBron fake reads books, right?
Oh, right.
For the photo app.
He'll just read the first page of the book.
They take a picture and he puts it down.
So he was fake reading the Hunger Games.
And there was this young journalist who was trying to ingratiate himself to LeBron and build a relationship by talking about the Hunger Games.
And he's like, oh, which one are you on?
You're on The Mock and Jay or something.
Oh, dude, I love that one because Katniss is doing this, that, the other.
And as he's talking to LeBron about it, he's realizing LeBron hasn't read any of these fucking games.
So he's got a moonwalk out of the combo without letting LeBron know that he knows that he's a fucking fraud when it comes to reading these books.
So now all these memes have come out of LeBron is only reading the front page of the book or the first page of the book.
Oh, great.
But that's another one.
Like Jordan would be like, fuck reading.
Yeah, he'd be like, I don't.
I don't know.
Are you reading that?
I win.
There's no reading the last dance when he met Seinfeld.
What do you say?
He goes, hey, they're big fans of your show.
Because truthfully, like at that moment, Jordan and Seinfeld TV show, that's the two biggest things going.
Don't disrespect Jordan like that, bro.
No, that's fair.
Seinfeld disrespects Jordan.
Seinfeld's bigger than Tiger.
I mean, dude, you like Seinfeld?
Like, I'd stand up.
Yeah, I'm a big Seinfeld guy.
You don't think he's wildly overrated?
Yeah.
I mean, dude, he started in 79.
What do you want him to be?
Like, I'm sorry he's not your Eddie.
He was before Eddie.
I'm sorry he's not exactly what you want him to be.
He needs to be exactly what I want to be.
He's very good at dismissing Andrew in a way that makes him look dumb.
Yeah.
And you're just very casually like, I'm sorry, he's not exactly.
I think you have to be the fucking.
I marvel at how you just take it.
You're just like, oh, I'm sorry.
I just think he's pretentious.
I think that's why.
I mean, I think it's fine.
You know what that comes from?
It's an older comic.
Like, it's the no, it's because I love, you know, the OGs, I love.
Like, I've actually, I miss that.
Pretentious.
He's been so famous forever.
I think he's like, dude, he's awesome.
Like, his specials are doing really good.
Justifying Stand-Up Fame00:15:24
I mean, created Seinfeld's my favorite show of all time.
Like, it's the best show.
That's insane.
So overrated, bro.
That's so overrated.
You really did you have you ever watched other shows?
Huh?
Yeah, I've watched other shows, dude.
How were they?
That was like a Nate line.
That was like a Nate line.
Have you tried other shows?
Have you tried other shows?
Have you tried watching other TV?
Everybody loves Raymond.
The office.
I love, yeah.
All great shows.
Yeah.
All great shows.
Seinfeld's great.
Did you not like it because you're living in Manhattan?
Maybe.
It was like too close.
Like, I just didn't care for it.
I was like, okay, these guys are quirky.
Now that I lived there, that's what you thought.
Like, look how quirky everybody is.
Seven years old.
Seven years old.
I swear to God, I put it on and I like, I hated the way the Kramer would walk in.
I'd be like, you're not going to walk into someone's house like that.
Like, I'm just not going to let you in my house.
Like, if you're going to keep on bursting in the fucking door, it's just stupid.
I mean, you dance around in here all the time.
You're the Kramer now, dude.
What are you?
You got to see my N-word bit too, bro.
He was a guy doing stand-up.
He should have done it.
He was like a celebrity that went into stand-up.
It didn't go too well.
It didn't go good.
But if he did six to 12 months, if you don't have an act or where to go, that's what happened.
That's what happens.
If you don't know where you're going up there, that's what happens.
It's the N-word.
It's going to be nothing else.
You're never not.
He said, I am not bombing today.
Most of us just go, okay, it's a bomb.
It's a bomb.
We can do this.
It's like, yeah, he's bringing everybody down with him.
He's like, if I die, everybody dies.
And he goes with that.
Yeah.
Yeah, Seinfeld's great.
Seinfeld's show is great.
Great show.
Stand-up's great.
He's kind of the king.
He's also a billionaire.
So you're asking him to not be pretentious when he's a billionaire comedian.
He would be comedy.
I know.
I'm like harder on him for some reason.
Maybe it's because he's so successful.
Yeah, what are you doing?
I'm just like, I don't know.
Like, I he's like the king, dude.
Once Cosby was out, it's that's the guy.
Really?
Yeah, he's the.
I mean, dude, all this stuff, like, I don't wear shit.
I don't wear shorts on stage.
Or, like, not that I would wear them, but it's like, I remember him saying, don't wear shorts.
Or one time he said, don't like shorts, sleeve shirts are, like, kind of weird on stage.
And all these kind of weird stuff.
Fashion advice from Seinfeld.
Well, he's just saying, like, no one wants to see your arms.
Yeah, they do.
Huh?
Yeah, they do.
Yeah, that I don't agree with.
That's the things that annoy me.
Like, he has this one idea of what stand-up is.
That's like, shut up.
You're not even a best at your version.
That's his thing.
I don't know.
It's.
You and I do very different types of comedy.
Oh, yeah.
I love your comedy.
Oh, yeah.
Very different.
Very, there's a lot.
Very different.
I don't know what camera it is.
We do.
We definitely do.
But I can appreciate your comedy.
Yeah.
Okay.
I find that he has a hard time appreciating the things that aren't exactly the way that he does them.
That's my understanding.
I mean, dude, he's in his 60s.
Figure it out.
It is, but it's definitely going to be an older kind of like, yeah, dude, that's the way he started.
That's the way he is.
That's what he does.
His most recent special, he even said, like, this is my last special.
I'm too old for this now.
Yeah.
I don't understand what's going on.
Comedy's not for old people to do.
I'm done.
Him leaving at his peak, dude.
The thing when he talked with Jordan and he goes, yeah, well, you know, two guys in the 90s.
And like, they both, like, they left.
They got out of the way.
Yeah.
Too many people don't get out of the way anymore.
They stay and they don't leave.
Who would you like to leave?
It's a few.
Like it's too many to list.
No, I don't know if I don't know if I want anybody to leave.
But I don't know if I, there's a real answer to that, but it's like, I do like the idea, dude.
The show is the biggest show on earth.
And they're going to give him, I mean, probably $100 million more dollars if he does one more season.
And he says no.
He goes, why would I?
I can't top it.
And then he's never done anything else.
The reunion show was actually pretty perfect in the fact that they did it on Curb Your Enthusiasm.
They did it on another show.
They did the kind of reunion thing cooler than anybody's ever done a reunion thing.
Yeah.
And so he's kind of done his own thing.
And he left and he goes, all right, see you.
Went back and did stand-up.
The B movie was great.
Comedians call it.
Stop it, man.
Shut the fuck up.
You're defending the B movie.
I mean, what do you want it to be?
He's so good at it, dude.
Good.
I don't know how he does it.
Good.
It's good.
It's good.
It wasn't even the best movie about B's that came out that year.
What was a better movie than that?
Wasn't an ant.
There was an ant.
Maybe it was an ant movie.
I don't know.
There was another insect movie that was better.
The B movie was great.
Come on.
One of my favorite movies I ever seen in my life.
Do you guys have like a thing?
You guys have like a tour?
I've never met him.
I would love to meet him.
I've never met him.
Oh, he'll let you down.
I met him once.
Yeah.
That's why he doesn't like him.
Yeah.
I hope we just talk about you the whole time.
Yeah, we did.
If I meet, no, I'm saying when I meet Seinfeld, he goes about Andrew Schultz.
I was like, I know, right?
Like, I'll have to know.
I'll have to defend you to him.
Now that's what he does, dude.
He wears those shoes.
He goes, like, y'all have to get.
He wears the shoes.
I know.
I would like to defend you to him.
What if he gets just rails on you the whole time?
And I'm like, no, there's no way Seinfeld knows who I am.
You're two New York dudes.
Why don't y'all not get along with that?
Because he's from Long Island and y'all don't care for them.
I like people from Long Island.
It's like, you know, I think they're like, to be honest, I don't know.
In a lot of ways, like the real New Yorkers.
I know it's a weird thing to say, but their personalities fit the stereotype of what most people think New Yorkers are.
Yeah.
Way more than like me, for example.
Yeah.
You know, like, I think when a lot of people meet me, they're not like, wait, aren't you supposed to say, get over here?
Yeah.
Give me a pizza, whatever that kind of thing.
You fit in.
If you were from Florida, honestly, like you could be like, oh, I get that.
Like you, someone could think that I'm Florida, baby.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
For whatever reason, he rubs me the wrong way.
I've always heard that.
And some people, I like him.
I mean, he's so big.
And he's like, it's like, I don't, what do you like?
I don't know.
But when do we do we do that?
We just like justify people being annoying because they're big.
You met Jordan.
I don't think it's going to be great.
Like, I don't think it's.
It's going to be great.
It's going to be great.
No, it's not.
No, it's going to be great.
I think he's going to tell me how fucking easy golf is.
That's for sure.
Yeah.
He's going to be like, I could have busted these guys' asses if I wasn't.
I was listening to your guys' podcast the other day.
Couldn't agree more, Andrew.
I can easily be zero.
That's what I'm saying.
He gets it.
A guy like Jordan gets it.
You know what I mean?
I'd like to meet Larry.
Yeah.
Yeah, I would love to meet Larry David.
Did you, you didn't meet him?
No, no, I've never met him.
Jerry or Larry would love to meet him.
Big, big fans.
Larry, that'd be cool.
Jerry's great, dude.
I can see putting Larry.
Jerry's his true stand-up comic.
That's what I love.
Jay Leno, true stand-up comic.
Stuck with it.
Still does shows.
Still a road dog.
That guy could do whatever he wanted.
Look at Letterman.
Letterman ain't doing all that stuff.
That's the thing with Letterman.
You know, everybody's talked about Letterman and Leno, and everybody likes Letterman more than Leno.
Letterman was the strictest human being alive.
You had to have a suit.
He banned Bill Hicks forever.
You couldn't disappoint him.
Leno was like a true comic.
I'm here to help the comedians.
I'm here to like, I'm open, and I'm doing road shows and then never gave up.
I love someone that doesn't turn their back on stand-up.
When they make it, they don't, they go, no, no, this is why I'm here.
I'm only here because of this.
This is what I love.
Seinfeld's that.
All those people are that.
That's why I love the guys that stick with it and they don't, and they die stand-up comics.
If you meet Seinfeld, he doesn't go, I'm an actor from a TV show.
He goes, I'm a stand-up comic.
Leno's a stand-up comic.
He doesn't go, I hosted tonight's show.
Letterman, he doesn't say that.
I mean, he's Letterman.
He's like, oh, I'm a TV talk show.
I like the guys that stick with it.
Yeah, I didn't.
I mean, I never really watched Letterman, but I didn't really, I don't know.
I always kind of liked Leno more, but I never subscribed to like, oh, it's cool to like Letterman.
He's the more meta guy.
That was like very cool.
I think he did very funny.
I didn't watch it either.
Conan kind of took that over as well.
Yeah.
And then, I don't know, the Conan thing, I always thought he was hilarious, but I always thought the interview was about Conan, no matter who he was talking to.
And I thought it was kind of cool that Leno was like deferential to the guests.
Yeah, yeah.
Letterman would make it about Letterman, but in the funniest way.
If he didn't have interest in a guest, he couldn't fake it.
Well, then don't have them on.
Yeah.
I remember.
But I think that's why people liked it because it was like watching.
He was like Tom Cruise's ex-wife.
He was dating Katie Holmes.
He had her on the show, asked her some questions about Batman.
He's clearly not interested.
And then he goes, all right, now let's talk about the real reason I brought you on this show.
And then he starts asking questions about Tom Cruise.
And that's just such a funny, like, let's stop pretending we give a fuck about your movie.
Yeah, Letterman was very, very funny in that aspect of it.
I just always thought everybody was so like trashing Leno.
And it was just always funny to be like, well, Letterman.
I think they saw him as a sellout because he used to be absolutely hysterical.
And then they saw him as like more of a corporate shill, if you will.
He's like, I'm...
Who's not going to take a tonight show job?
Say again?
Who's not going to take the tonight show?
I wouldn't do the tonight show now.
Well, now, I mean, this is when tonight show is the biggest thing on earth when he takes it.
Right.
So, but like, who if someone offered you a talk show on something, I don't know.
Like, I don't know.
I mean, it's just so different now.
Yeah, it's different.
But yeah, I mean, there's just certain things.
You said you wouldn't do Netflix either and you did that.
I'm alive.
Maybe you would do that.
I'm Hippocrates.
Right now, you're going to end up hosting the tonight show.
Would you do...
Because that how you get stuff?
You're like, I would never do that.
Yo, Nate, shut the fuck up.
This is how it works, bro.
Yeah, I know.
Y'all edited that out.
I'm not even in the picture anymore.
No, I um yeah, I don't know.
I guess, I don't know.
I mean, it's okay to want somebody to continue the comic that you like them as.
Like, for example, a lot of people like you because you're clean, and then all of a sudden you flip and you go dirty.
There might be people who go, yeah, why the fuck is he dirty?
And then you might defend it by being like, look, I got a show on fucking HBO.
They wanted me to be dirty, and then now I got to be dirty now.
And they'll be like, all right, well, I'm allowed to not like you because you changed who you are.
Yeah.
I liked you for this reason.
You're no longer that.
So that's why I don't like you.
And I think that was the relationship with Lenov to a lot of people.
I never knew him as a stand-up before that.
Yeah.
Right.
But I heard he was fucking killing.
Like murder.
That's the story he's always.
Yeah.
And like, I weirdly love him for the car show.
I watch hours of his car show on YouTube.
He's a, he became a YouTuber.
Yeah.
It's the most amazing transition.
He went from, he went from the tonight show host to a fucking YouTuber.
Never spend his tonight show money is what they always say.
Yeah.
Live off his stand-up money and then just put that somewhere.
It's pretty wild.
Wild.
I don't know.
I always, I was like, but I do, I'm okay with people like changing their tune on someone if that person changes who they are.
Yeah.
You know?
I'm fine with that too.
Like if they, if they want to, if they, that's why you want to stick to what you do.
Like there's not, there's too many times where, you know, I remember like Howard Sterman always talked about that with Napoleon Dynamite, but he that actor.
Yeah.
But being like, yeah, go do that again, man.
He's like, no, I'm not doing that now.
You're like, well, that's why we like you.
And then that's the thing.
Like, that's what he was.
Yeah.
Like, that was a, that was such a random occurrence that that guy ended up playing himself.
Like, I don't think he wrote the fucking movie, right?
He was just the actor.
Yeah.
But somebody wrote a movie and then there just existed that human being.
And then he, like, that's nuts.
Yeah.
Like, it's not often you just write a random kind of borderline spectrum.
Well, it's definitely spectrumed out character and then they exist and then they fucking murder it.
Yeah.
But if that's who you are, you can't really change that.
Like he's not going to go be in a fucking drama.
McLovin didn't be, he wasn't McLovin again.
And yeah.
Why, where's McLovin?
I don't even know his name.
He's McLovin.
He's McLovin.
Isn't that weird, though, that like that happens?
Like you have these characters, they get typecast and then like they do like a few movies and then they fall off and people are like, yeah, he's done.
It's like, no, no, they were like the star of movies.
Like that's really awesome.
Yeah.
Like how many people are in film?
Like the Stiffler character was so fucking funny.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Like he was just so he like curated this character out of nowhere.
He just made this up.
He invented.
That's not who he is.
He just invents this character.
It's incredible.
It makes us laugh at all these different movies and then it stops making us laugh and then his career's over.
But like he's not some loser.
Like the guy was a fucking superstar a little bit.
Well, that's how we talk about Sandler.
You're like, Sandler just does him.
I love it.
Like, and then he goes into, I mean, he did uncut gems and he's done a couple like other kind of crazy things.
Every once in a while it lets you know he can act.
He'll do one of the like.
He's great.
Just like a little nod.
That's like just wearing like a real nice watch where you're like, I'm doing all right, dude.
Don't worry.
Like, you know, you got like a t-shirt on and they're like, is everything okay?
You're like, look, we're fine.
Don't worry about what's going on over here.
All right.
I'll pay for this.
Like, yeah, he does like that kind of thing, but he builds his own.
Yeah.
That's what's great.
It's like build, it is with what you're doing here in the new kind of ways.
Like, it's, it is like you're building your own world.
You can't wrap your head around where you can start going like, all right, if I start, you know, you think about it sometimes where you're like, with, you know, yeah, with specials and all this, you're like, well, if they're here to see my special, like, how do I get, you got to get everybody to switch.
Yeah.
Or if you're like, well, what if I did do this?
But you like, you do it.
You're like, I'll put it out myself.
Yeah.
Because it's like, it's my thing.
Yeah.
And then, you know, not saying I'm doing that, but it's like, I was very, always a mainstream guy.
Yeah.
So I was very, you know, I was never, I never did good.
Like, I'm selling it, going to this rock venue.
Like, I needed my audience, like, it was like, he needs to be the main comedy club in town.
Yeah.
Like, they were never going to find the other club.
I mean, they will.
They'll go wherever you go.
But, like, I subscribe to that too.
I don't want to do comedy in a comic book store.
I want to do comedy in the place that it's supposed to be done.
You're coming into my home.
That's how I feel at a comedy club.
I feel like it's my home.
Yeah.
And you're a guest.
If I go do like the weird off-site thing, I feel like I'm a guest.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I like it being my home.
Yeah.
Do you like theaters?
Yeah.
I love the sound.
I love the behavior.
I love that.
And like when you first walk on and there's 2,000 people, you're just like, what is this?
Like, what is what is happening?
It's show business.
It feels the most like show business.
There's union guys.
There's all these kind of things.
People are signing.
Like, you always feel, we've talked about like an imposter feeling.
Like, you ever, when you go on, you feel, you're like, who are these people here to see?
No.
You know, they're there to see you.
No, I don't have.
Yeah.
That is something I haven't struggled with in entertainment.
But I hear a lot of people talk about that.
But I don't.
I've only struggled that with fame, not with entertainment.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So like initially getting some fame early when I did the MTV stuff, I felt like I had to be funny like I was on the show to a stranger to justify where I was.
I wasn't comfortable enough with it.
But the idea of like going up and entertaining a group of people in the way that like I'm not lying about who I am.
Like who I am is who I am.
So it's not going to be a surprise.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Like that's New York.
This is like good for him.
But no, but like I'm not lying.
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No, New York is like, I think that's the thing.
This is you know, but I think it's like it's funny.
It's like, it's the, it's the personality of, I wonder if it's like being a New Yorker, like that's, y'all are very confident.
Uh, I, I think.
Like when you move, like you're very the biggest pond, I think.
Yeah, well, there's a confidence to it that's like you're, you're friend, you're from there, dude.
Like you're not like, it's not like someone's like, I live there.
You're like, yo, dude, I'm from here.
You grew up there when it was terrible.
And like, and it was like, so you're, there's like, I don't know, there's a different.
I also do think about this with home turf.
And I said this to you a couple times.
Like when I, I've been in New York for like 13 years now.
So it's a little different.
But before when I would go back to Dallas, I was so confident, dude.
I grew up here.
I know this.
Any show here is like, bro, I know this shit.
I'm so confident.
And this is not to take away from your work ethic or talent or humor in any way, but being able to grow up in New York is another advantage in addition to everything else you do.
You're like, yo, I know this place.
This is my place.
I think it is a huge advantage.
I think that I've always looked at comedy as like this combination of extreme confidence and extreme insecurity.
And like the insecurity drives your ability to get better.
And the confidence has to be enough where you feel like the things you say should be said out loud.
Yeah.
Because there'll be times I remember like, it's always at the strip for some reason.
Like I'll be at the comic strip and then I'll be like waiting to go on and I'll be like, what is this?
Oh, yeah.
Like why am I like at the strip?
What is this?
Like, why am I?
And I love this trip.
I actually love performing this trip, but like for whatever reason, every once in a while, I have this, and I'll be like, why am I, why are we talking to people?
Like, what is this art?
Yeah.
Like, I just go on stage and I say things.
Why is this funny?
Why is this?
Why are they laughing?
No, no, no.
Not necessarily why are they laughing?
Like, why is this a thing?
Why does this exist?
Why does this exist?
Doesn't pay Marnie to go watch someone make them laugh.
It's like, it's the, it's the, I guess, art version of, you know, when you say a word enough and it just doesn't make any sense.
Oh, yeah.
It's that for the art.
Like, what is this thing that we are doing right now?
Yeah.
And why does this exist?
And then you'll go on stage and you'll just get into it and all of a sudden it makes sense.
But I'll have those like little feelings.
But I think that that insecurity, like, I have to be my harshest fucking critic.
I have to be like, I fucking sucked.
You can be better at that.
You can get more efficient with your words and all that kind of stuff, but I have to be confident enough where I should say it.
Because I think a lot of people, I was talking about a buddy of mine this weekend.
Like, he never even imagines himself having people who support him.
So he's not even trying to solve the problem of how to get his stuff out to them.
He's trying to solve the problem of, is my stuff even worth it for them to listen to?
So you wouldn't even put it out.
Exactly.
Like, you knew you were going to be you.
Yeah.
You're a humble dude, but you also knew you were going to do this.
Yeah, yeah, you're, yeah.
So you have a confidence.
It's like that you, you know, and you have to.
I'm talking about you specifically.
Like, I'm wrong to say that you didn't, you imagined this going kind of like this.
Yeah, but I was set, I did.
I wanted it, but I never let my goal, my dreams or goals, I never let them get too far from where I was at at that time.
So I never wanted anything too far.
I never wanted to be like, like I, right now I can tell you, I want to be able to sell out the Madison Square Gardens.
I want to.
But when I was younger, I never let myself get too far because the farther your dream was or goal was, the harder.
You can't reach it.
I'm handing out flyers.
So it's stupid to go, one day I'm going to be selling out the garden.
Well, there, there are many steps there is before you get to that.
I'll never get there because it'll get too daunting.
But if I'm handing those flyers out and I go, I don't want to have to stand on this corner.
Well, that's something I can get.
So then once you get it, then you're, you're, you just keep doing, then you're like, I don't want to have to stand at the door.
I want to go up.
I want to be able to go up whenever I want to go up.
I want to be able to walk in.
You know, the biggest thing, especially for us New York comics, is popping in.
Everybody always did that to us.
And all you think is, and I remember like when comics would get mad, they're like, what do you mean?
I hate that.
Why are they popping?
You're like, how do you not just want to do that?
That's cool.
You're like, that's the goal.
You're like, yeah, dude.
Like, I look at when Chappelle comes in, you're like, I want to be Chappelle.
I want to be able to walk in and go.
That's the reason there's three shows.
Yeah.
Because they never know who the fuck is going to pop in.
It's not for us.
Yeah.
I never have a lot of people.
I think the people are that Chappelle as opposed to you.
I never, I never understood it.
But I hear what you're saying, though.
Yeah.
Keep goals.
That was the thing that just.
I would compartmentalize.
I'd almost treat it like college.
Like when I go to college, like I want to graduate, but at the same time, I understand I have to take this class right now.
Yeah.
So this is the, this is what I'm doing for this amount of money.
And your goals change.
What's interesting is like who you, so we're, it's, comedy is very competitive.
Yeah.
And so you're, you're, first you hate everybody that gets everything.
You're mad about everything.
And then you just watch those names kind of go away.
Yeah.
So then your competition, you're just watching it kind of change.
You're like, it's beginning, it's so many people.
And then you kind of, you get confident and you get comfortable, go like, I know I'm kind of past that point.
And then you're, there's a new group and then there's a new group.
And so you just kind of keep rising up and you start going like, huh, like who you're trying to get above gets smaller.
Like you're not, there's not that many people that you're like, now you're looking at it going like, all right, like I'm going after eight guys or something now.
Versus I was before.
If the world was small, like even New York, I would look at it.
I'd be like, well, how many guys are funny?
I know this sounds crazy, but like if we're being our honest selves right now.
I know, but everybody was getting stuff.
I'm just saying you would know that like you, if you didn't get something and someone else did, you're like, you're kind of mad at everybody getting stuff.
No, yeah.
Yeah, I think no one's funny.
So it's like, so it's like, how do I be funnier than these few people that I think are hilarious?
Why are they getting that and I'm not?
I never worried about the getting shit.
Oh, I did.
But maybe I got some stuff.
I mean, I was upset that I wasn't getting stuff in stand-up, but I was like, I knew how to get it.
I was just not going to sacrifice what I want to do.
Yeah.
Because I was like, I know if I do what I want to do.
Well, y'all got MTV.
I got MTV early.
I just never got anything in stand-up.
And I was just like, I know what to do to get it.
Like, I saw what the guys are doing to get it.
And I'm just like, I don't want to do that.
And I know that this is what a large group of people want.
So I'm going to find a way to eventually get it to them.
I didn't know what the fuck it was.
But like, I knew eventually they'll see it.
Because the proof is in the pudding.
Like, you get to go up.
You get to go up with the guy that got the thing you didn't get.
And you get to follow him or go before him.
Yeah.
So you know what time.
We all know what time it is.
Like there's a lot of, you know, everybody could talk the shit, but at the end of the day, it's the same stage.
Yeah.
And we're all going to go up.
Yeah.
And we know who's going to be funny.
So you mean like a tonight, like a tonight show, you would be like.
Never cared about tonight's show.
Okay.
But as an example, if you wanted the tonight show and you're like, we're all over here auditioning to get on tonight's show, you looked at it as like, well, I'll figure a way to where then the tonight show is going to invite me on.
Yeah.
Like it's like you're going to go, you're like, it doesn't matter how I get there.
I'll get there, do another one.
What would the best version of me on the tonight show be?
Okay, I'll find a way to do that.
Yeah, it's like me sitting down on being a guest to pay.
Because I would see guys and I'd be like, oh, Nate is going to murder on the tonight show.
Because I think we've even had this conversation, weirdly enough.
Like, oh, because when Nate goes on the tonight show, he's going to do jokes that are going to be similar to when people see him after watching on the tonight show.
And then I'd see guys that I know fucking murder then go do this like neutered version of themselves on the tonight show.
And I was like, well, I don't want them to see.
And I was, so I said to myself, I was like, I'm not doing the tonight show unless I organically have five minutes that happens to be clean enough for the tonight show and works.
And if I organically have it, I'll start to put it together and cut things here and blah, blah, blah.
I'll sew it together.
But I'm not going to force it for this thing that I don't really care.
Like I don't watch fucking the tonight show.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
And that's kind of how I always, I always looked at it.
But I had the guys that I thought were brilliant and brilliant for different reasons.
And they showed me what I was lacking.
And they showed me the things that I needed to improve on.
And I would just have hyper focus about that.
And it could be like skill things.
It could be personality things.
It could be tone.
Like, you know how guys, like you were saying earlier with like Burr, like he could, he set the tone in the fucking room.
I would always focus on who changes the room?
Yeah.
Who, who changes the fucking energy in the room?
When I walk off, I want the energy to be different.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, well, it's like, that's when they don't know.
That's the, when they don't know you.
There's nothing better when they, when they don't know you and then they're like, what was what the fuck?
That's the greatest thing ever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's something about it.
And you still have it now when, even though when people come to see you, because you're always going to get compared to really the kind of how they found you.
Yeah.
So for me, like the Tennessee kid on Netflix is like, I'm always kind of compared to that.
Yeah.
And so you got to be better.
One of the cool things about stand-up, though, compared to, well, I guess maybe music is similar in this regard, but like, like I can listen to an album or like a song and I can just love the fucking song.
I think it's amazing.
Right.
Stand-up, if you're killing in person, is always twice, three times, four times as good.
Oh, yeah.
So like if they see the special and they're laughing, they don't even know what's going to happen in person.
Like they don't, you know what I mean?
When you're murdering in a crowd, you know, when you can hear them doing so good and it's early, you're like, dude, I'm not even too much good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We can warn you.
There's nothing.
That's like the only time it's like you kind of come out of this, like you kind of start laughing or smiling on stage because you're like, I can't believe this is doing this.
Like you can believe it, but this crowd's so good.
And then you're like, dude, I am murdered.
Like you just feel it.
And it's an amazing.
That's why the musicians want to always be, there's always that we want, they want to be comedians and comedians want to be rock stars because I want to feel what it feels like to, I don't know, music always makes me, I'm a little annoyed with it because they're like, they get a, you know, they can just write one song and yeah, I have no interest in being a rock star, but I can see why they'd want to be us.
You want to feel it.
I would want to feel the crowd of like, you know, you go watch those videos like where they're singing the song back to them and you're like, that's pretty wild.
Yeah.
And you did this song one time and they want to hear it a thousand.
I do a joke one time, you hear it once.
You're like, it's all over.
That shelf life is so short for Santa.
When we were in Nashville, we wrote a country song.
Yeah, yeah.
Right.
And with some like super talented guys, like Jelly Roll.
And there's a guy.
I don't even know if we're allowed to say his name on it, but he's like a, you know, like a really established kind of like country.
Yeah.
And when I went up and did shows at West Palm Beach, we like play the song.
It's like a fun song.
And the fucking crowd knew the song.
And as I was going on stage, and we all sang like the ladding thing.
And I was like, oh, this shit is different, bro.
Like, it's a different thing.
Now, I've also went up with that song and nobody knew the lyrics.
And that's worse than bombing.
That is fucking painful, dude.
But when they know it, it's cool.
I mean, think how cool happy birthday is.
Yeah.
Like, even when it's not your birthday, when you're singing somebody happy birthday, everybody's on it.
Singing it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is.
It is a, but I do get how that could probably get, it's not the same as, because laughing is, you know, when they're going to laugh, but it's always a little different.
It's always a little kind of like, you know, you, you basically kind of know, you know where the joke is.
So you obviously know like, yeah, yeah.
I always think, I'll think that too, how crazy it is in my head that you write a joke and in my head, I could go laugh now.
Yeah.
And like, you just, you're looking at a word and you go, I know once the last syllable of that word comes out, you all laugh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that's so crazy to be like, making someone laugh is like not easy.
It's hard.
And like, and to get it to go, I know now.
Yeah.
And like, it's pretty wild.
Yeah.
So I think that's what we get that feeling.
And we're in control.
We're up there alone.
You get no break.
I always think that's always kind of weird.
Like you never get like a moment.
Like a drummer can just go pee.
Like they're in the, they're not during the, like it's crazy to be like a banger.
Can you imagine?
Like just if you're like a drummer could be like, I ran to Walgreens real fast and grabbed something.
And you're like, you did?
You're like, yeah, no one even knows I'm back here, dude.
Yeah.
I thought, you know what?
Stand-up is also unique in that like a song is the song.
Like you're going to sing the song.
It's going to crescendo where crescendos like you can manipulate it a bit.
Like obviously with jazz and stuff, you can like stay in a moment.
But like with stand-up, if you've like hit a chord, like you get to just like keep your foot on it.
Like, I'm going to tag, and I might never do this joke like this again, but I'm looking at people in the audience and they are, they're getting laughed out.
Like, you know, oh, yeah.
And then you just, you can keep.
Just keep going.
Yeah.
And that, I don't know what else there, that exists in boxing in the most brutal way.
Right.
Like, because once they get kind of, and then you just, yeah.
But that, I think, is where we have, and that, I guess, only exists within comics that can kind of like separate themselves from the act a little bit or the exact like words within the bit.
But that is a special moment.
Like seeing people like just keep on.
It's, it's, it's, there's nothing better.
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Yeah.
Nothing better.
Making someone laugh.
You just, they feel, you know how good it feels to laugh.
Yeah.
It's uh, yeah, there's nothing better.
My mom would always say that.
She's like, you're very lucky.
I go, why?
She goes, you do something ethical for a living.
I go, what do you mean?
I'm like, tell him Joe.
Like, this is stupid.
I'm not a fucking like doctor or anything like that.
He's like, she's like, yeah, but you don't have to feel bad about what you do.
Like, you make people laugh and they'll like feel good.
You're not some fucking savior or anything, but what you do will make people feel good usually.
Yeah.
And that's really lucky.
Because it could be like an insurance, one of those guys that like makes, sees if you get money back for your house or not.
Yeah.
You know, it's like, it was your fault.
You left the door open for the flood.
Like, that's someone's job.
Sorry.
Yeah.
So we would make fun of that guy.
Why'd you leave the door open?
You start trashing his own.
That guy comes to the comedy show just to get away.
And then you're like, this idiot that's got his house flooded.
He's like, this is the opposite of what I wanted.
Anyway, Nate, thank you so much for coming on, man.
We appreciate you.
We support you.
Big fans over here.
It's great to see what you've carved out for yourself.