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Arnold vs President George Washington00:08:52
What were you saying to Khabib?
They got him so upset.
Jake is such a pussy, bro.
Why did your boy Connor shout to Proper 12 stiff Dustin on a charity, bro?
I mean, you're not the most athletic man.
I'm an orphan.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Are you not?
I think what Arnold Schwarzenegger, excuse me, I think what he accomplished in his life is more impressive than being president.
Yeah.
By far.
Not even close.
In what capacity?
Like, to get elected?
The difficulty level.
Getting elected president is literally getting chosen by the powers that be to be their slave.
Okay.
Arnold Schwarzenegger willed his way.
From Austria.
From Austria to America to become the biggest action star in the world and then the governor of California.
And the only reason that he's not president is because legally he cannot be.
And if he legally could, we would have elected his ass.
I guarantee it.
And you forgot Mr. Olympia.
He was that.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Like, that's the whole beginning of the shit.
The guy couldn't speak English and became the biggest action star on the world.
He was so amazing that they wrote an entire film around him not saying anything.
Fire.
And then the guy learned how to say shit, and they're like, fine, you can be in the next one and you'll be the star of that one.
Fine, you can be governor.
You can be governor.
What Arnold Schwarzenegger did is, again, what he did is far more impressive than what any president has ever done except Obama.
Okay.
Make sure you put that out.
I think except Obama.
And the reason I say except Obama is because Obama had very little political experience and political exposure.
The dude put the whole world in his palm in a matter of months through a few amazing speeches.
What he did was unbelievable.
And again, pre-social media.
Like, that shit went viral before there was viral.
His Keystone speech or whatever.
All of it.
Yeah.
So it is, but I'm just saying, I think, I'll be honest with you.
I think what Schwarzenegger did was more impressive than even Obama.
Nah, relax, relax.
I really do.
Obama's from America.
More than any president.
Yeah, do you guys not believe he's from America?
Sorry, Al, again.
Jesus God.
I mean, come on.
Obama's a man certificate.
Unbelievable, man.
Bro, I'm being honest.
I don't.
Let's just look at what he did.
He became Mr. Olympia or whatever, right?
Yeah.
Very impressive.
Very difficult.
I'll give you that.
Very difficult to do.
Has to lift the most shit or whatever and then look amazing doing it.
That's just genetics.
Nothing you can do, right?
Take steroids and hopefully your muscles fill out in a way that's beautiful.
He gets it done.
Okay.
After that, goes into an acting career in a language that he doesn't speak in a country that is not his own and becomes America's sweetheart with the thickest Austrian accent in history.
Hitler had less of an Austrian accent.
Yeah, what year was he born?
Than Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Probably not that long after World War II.
Like, we're probably, he's probably famous like 20 years after World War II.
We just mollywopped his family.
We just let that go.
Yes.
Oh, you're from the birthplace of Hitler?
I don't worry about it.
Literally.
Don't worry about it.
Everybody that is a fan of Arnold Schwarzenegger was just rooting against him and the people that sound just like him.
47.
Bro, he born five years AH.
Yeah.
Son, his parents were fucking after listening to Hitler, bro.
Hitler was talking on the news and then they made him right afterwards.
He was Hitler, baby.
Oh, my God.
He was Hitler, baby.
He's Hitler.
Kill Hitler or Schwarzenegger.
I think you got to kill Schwarzenegger if you really want to.
If you want to change history, dude, Clint, he came in and he went like this to Clint Eastwood.
He goes, bye.
Yeah, that's right.
Like that.
See you later, Maggot.
Clint Eastwood was the dude, okay?
The motherfucking Marlboro man.
Yeah.
That was Jelly Alex.
Hard word to say, bro.
Say it's Jilly Alex now.
Schwartz came in.
Bye, bro.
Adios Blitzkrieg.
Not playing games, dude.
But what about a president like George Washington?
George Washington is the greatest man in history.
Outside of the slave works.
Outside of the slavery shit.
Honestly, over Lincoln.
Over Lincoln, dude.
That's your guy.
Over Lincoln.
That's your guy.
He was a whack-ass general, lost mad battles.
That was the strategy.
That was the strategy.
Nah, he just had an oversight.
There's degrees of brilliance to what Washington did, right?
Like, look, we're just going to have to lose some of these.
That's it.
We're going to have to stretch this war on as long as we possibly can, and we're going to make it too expensive for England.
That's not a good power.
We just don't have to lose it.
That's not somebody else.
They're losing.
Thank you very much, Mark.
I was about to say it, but I'm glad you said it.
We weren't America yet.
We didn't have our values.
The second we came to America, we stopped losing.
Before that, we were English.
So he was losing.
So he was anti-American.
We took an English strategy.
His strategy is anti-American.
Until he made America.
This is why he's the most impressive.
Are you ready?
Let's go.
If you say he's black.
Over Schwartzy.
Over Schwarzenegger.
He actually was black.
There you go.
George Washington was black.
Most impressed.
He got it.
There's a different George Washington who made peanut butter, but Jeff Washington, I'm talking about.
Carver might be the most impressive George Washington.
I'm talking about it.
He's the most impressive George Washington without a doubt.
That guy fucking.
George Washington Carver is the most impressive George Washington, 100%.
And the fact that black people don't claim him like you should is embarrassing.
You don't blame him at all.
Where's he from?
What state?
He's our secret agent because he makes something that slowly kills some of you whites that are too weak to handle it.
Peanut butter does.
I'm telling you, he's a sneak idiot.
Holy shit, that's a great point.
So we know that.
Oh, my God.
No, George Williams.
That's why peanut butter.
All these peanut butter allergies, all these little white kids are dying of fucking peanut butter allergies because George Washington put that shit in way before.
Oh my God.
Whoever's popularized drinking milk, that was back on us.
Oh, yeah.
Taking us out slow.
Payback.
That's payback.
Because we can't.
Payback against the black community for peanuts.
Oh, my goodness.
Who popularized drinking milk?
I don't know.
Eli Whitney, probably.
That's great.
Yo, shout out to Eli Whitney, bro.
That cotton gin, dog.
Yo, that motherfucker is weird.
That's a tough dude because he's like, man, these slaves are working too hard, but I don't want them to stop.
No, I know.
Just make it easier.
I think the thing he was trying to help slavery is trying to like, apparently they were going to end slavery because it wasn't lucrative.
And then he was like, no, no, no.
I figured it out.
He's the Elon Musk.
He's really the Elon Musk of slavery in law.
Elon Musk will call it Eli.
Dude, but you know the thing, and I'm sure somebody's going to joke about this, but like Eli Whitney didn't invent it.
The guy Eli Whitney owned invented it.
Yeah, but he probably wanted no credit.
He's probably like, you know what?
You got that.
Well, yeah, of course he doesn't want credit because he kept slavery around, right?
But there was a black dude that worked with him.
He's like, dude, there's a way easier way to pick this cotton.
We don't have to take all these little seeds out with our fingers.
And we can get so much more cotton that I don't have to break my back.
And Eli Whitney was like, you thought.
Damn.
And that fucked up?
Yeah, that's fucked up.
I don't know if he had slaves.
You can look up to see if he gets that.
Yeah, apparently the grand irony is that the person who invented the idea was a slave.
I knew it, bro.
I knew it.
Yeah.
Anywho.
That guy snitched on himself.
Snitched on himself.
Back to George Washington, the original George Washington.
This is why he's so impressive.
He relinquished power himself.
I think that's the first time in history that that's happened.
And that's how he changed the course of history.
He was in power.
There were no term limits.
He could have stayed in power as long as he wanted.
He was beloved by the people.
He just defeated the greatest army in history.
He served two terms and he said, in order for this to work, I have to give this up.
I have to give up this power to the people who were fucking idiots, by the way.
The average person back in the day couldn't read.
Nobody could read.
They didn't have any teeth.
He was like, these people should make the decisions.
You know, now we're like, I can't believe anybody can vote.
People are idiots.
People are so much smarter than they used to be back in the day.
And that motherfucker said, yo, y'all got it.
Figure it out.
This great American experiment has to happen.
The only way it can work is if I give up the power.
That shit is impressive.
Oh my God.
That's impressive as peanut butter.
He just wanted to retire.
Yeah, no.
I think he wanted some time.
He found a graceful exit.
Good for you.
That don't make you more impressive than Schwartz.
I hate it when you fucking belittle things that seem exciting to me.
No, no, no.
Okay, fair enough.
Fair enough.
George Washington Carver, because he stayed in the game to the end.
Bro, he's about the peanut.
Bro, he had a speech back in the day where he was like, one day, I have a dream.
He's like, I have a dream.
He goes, I have a dream.
And my kids will be making sandwiches with cashew nuts.
With all different types of nuts to make this butter.
A PBJ is just a symbolism for unity.
White People Acting Out of Character00:10:09
You know what I mean?
Yes, it is.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Yes, it is.
Where does jam come from?
Exactly.
Where does it come from, Mark?
From jam.
Berries.
From berries, bro.
Jam Berries.
It comes from berries.
And the blacker the berry, the sweeter the berry.
Sweeter the juice.
Jews.
The blacker the berry.
Singer the lungs.
Okay.
We have peanut butter.
We have juice.
And what color is the bread?
White bread.
White people.
Black people.
Jews.
Juice coming together.
Coming together to make one thing that's impossible to eat.
The shit sticks to the roof of your fucking mouth.
Okay.
You can barely swallow it.
It has zero nutrition.
Yep.
America.
That's what we do, baby.
America, baby.
That's what we are.
America is the great, not melting pot, peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
The great PBNJ.
The great PBJ.
And I'm proud to be a part of it.
God bless this nation.
Me too, dog.
God bless.
I'm empowered.
You're empowered?
Yeah.
What type of power?
Wonder bread.
Bread power.
Okay.
What else going on, man?
Let's hit a couple more.
We got some wild shit going on.
Hold up.
All right.
So, Kid Cuddy's wearing a dress on SNL.
Bro, the funny thing about this is, like, can't we just make fun of him for wearing something stupid?
Like, we make fun of people's clothes for so many different reasons.
But, like, if you make fun of him for wearing a dress, all of a sudden it becomes this gender issue shit.
And it's like, you look dumb.
You just look dumb.
Like, guys look dumb in things that cut off right here.
And then your little titty fat on the side, underarm, pip fat is hanging over the dress.
You look stupid.
Yeah.
You look stupid.
Yeah.
So we're going to make fun of you for looking stupid.
It's not a bigger fucking issue.
We don't have to go all Dave Chappelle on it and be like, oh, what is society is making you da-da-da-da.
I understand you like Kurt Cobain.
Maybe you want to give a little homage to him so you wear a dress.
He wore a lot of different fucking things.
But if you want to wear a dress, that's fine.
I was like, didn't you already pay homage to him with the cardigan?
You going?
I was like, you love Kurt Cobain.
Not as much as he loves attention.
You know what you're doing, bro.
You're getting the attention and then don't fucking cry about it.
If I'm a little Nod Z, I'm a little tight.
Like, bro, you can't let me have two more weeks of my video for you.
He said, we squatched it.
You got this gay energy.
You thought you was gay.
I'm going to show you gay.
Oh, look at that.
Look cute, though.
A little smile on his face.
He's happy in a dress.
The dress is off-white.
It's made by Virgil Abba.
Yeah, of course.
Allegedly.
It says off-white on it, actually.
This shit is whack.
It's a corny dress.
It's a whack dress.
It's corny.
Like, you just look stupid.
Nah, real talk.
If you don't have that off-white on it, you get that shit of TJ Maxx for your niece.
That's what I'm saying.
That's why you're deadass.
If you're going to rock a dress, at least rock fire.
I'm going to say something objectively, and you know that I'm critical of Kanye.
Yeah.
The kilt that he wore, and I'm Scottish.
Yeah, you're Scottish, bro.
Was flames.
That was kind of dope.
That heavy leather kilt, that shit was fire.
Okay.
Now, I'm sure I've clowned him tons for appropriating my culture.
And I did probably say that.
I don't really care if you appropriate culture, but it's nice to point out when that happens the other way.
Why can't we have a white appreciation month?
What is it, white people?
White history month.
Yeah, why isn't there a white history month, right?
Why can't we have a white lives matter?
White people love that argument, bro.
Yeah.
And you know the funny thing is that white people, I know this because I'm white.
Like, we don't even care about being white that much.
Like, amongst white people, we never talk about being white.
We never have any conversations about being white.
Most of you don't.
There's a small percentage that are really into it.
Yeah.
Like your foot fetish, you know what I mean?
There's like a percentage that's foot fetish.
There's a percentage that's white fetish.
I guess I just feel like they don't even tap that much into that.
Like, I feel like they're probably more religious than they are that.
Like, show me the white people who are like, we love being white and nothing else.
Everyone at the Capitol.
You would think.
No, but they also.
He's saying.
I don't know.
This is what y'all are debating.
Is white the most important thing or is it most important thing Trump queuing on whatever?
What's their biggest thing I identify with?
Do I identify as and take pride in I'm white or do I take pride in I'm stopping pedophiles?
I'm whatever.
I mean they were kind of Trump came out check it.
Check it like this.
Check it like this.
There are white people that don't really care about being white, but that don't like black people.
Okay.
They don't like you for your blackness.
They just don't care about their whiteness.
They might be Italian as fuck.
You know what I mean?
They might be like Irish.
They might have their little thing that they identify with, but they don't really care about being white.
I've never met to this day in my entire life.
I met a lot of whites that like have valued whiteness.
It's an illusion.
Unless it's in rap.
It's in what?
If it's in rap.
Okay, go.
If a white rapper succeeds, then I'm like, nice, dude.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
I'd be loving white rappers.
Oh, yeah.
Like white basketball players like Jason Williams love.
That's the only time you're episode for someone for doing something and they're white.
You know what I mean?
And you acknowledge their whiteness is if it's in something that white people don't do good.
Athletics or hip-hop.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You see a white rapper, you're like, nice, dude.
Nice to see yourself reflected.
White guy running the 100-meter dash.
Dude, I'm always rooting for that guy.
I'd be rooting for it.
He always loses.
You got to watch the race like this.
The black guys all the way over here.
You watching this guy stumble through the 50-yard line.
Come on, Greek.
You tying his shoes and fucking Chet Hanks.
Come on, run, bro.
Shout out to Chet.
White Boy Summer.
I guess what I'm saying is like a lot of times when you see this white pride shit, I think it's pussy because they don't really feel it.
They're just being reactionary.
Yeah, okay.
It's just backlash.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I'm not saying that they don't hate y'all.
No.
But they don't love them for that reason.
Yeah, they are.
But when I see black pride, I'm like, oh, they're trying to really make a movement to be proud of who they are as a race, right?
Black people are going, we need to be proud of ourselves.
We need to stop looking at ourselves in the way that people who hate us look at us.
It is a pride movement.
You're not denying that there's white supremacists out there.
There's so many white supremacists out there.
But most racist might be.
Yeah, I'm not talking about the little like groups of like KKK and shit like that.
I'm talking about like the average racist or the average like.
I just think those groups are a little bit bigger than you putting them.
Here's what it's saying.
Here's what I think he's saying.
You know how Malcolm said black people aren't racist.
They're reactionary racists.
Yeah.
Where like white people are racist toward them, so their race is better.
White people aren't prideful.
We're reactionary supremacists.
Like white supremacy is like reactionary pride where like they see you guys being proud and they kind of don't like you.
So like, you know what?
I'm proud of me too.
Let me take it out.
Thank you for communicating that better than I could ever fucking do.
Let me give you an easier one to digest also because with the racial component, it's just so difficult because we all have these like visceral memories of racism.
So it's hard to remove ourselves.
But remember the straight pride parade?
Yeah.
That's just reactionary.
There was a straight pride parade that they were trying to do.
I think like up in Boston or something like that.
Straight people, we don't have straight pride.
Like we're not going, yo, you straight?
Yeah, me too.
We love pussy, but we don't sit and go, God, we need a flag for how straight we are or any of these things.
It's just a bunch of we, it's just a bunch of straight people who are losers, right?
Who are seeing gay pride and they're like, well, why can't I be proud of myself being straight?
And then them reacting in a way to antagonize.
They're not really about that life.
Unless it's a straight drag queen, then I'm like, let's go.
Talk to me on that one.
That's what it is, man.
It's like the white rapper.
You see straight drag queen.
You see a straight drag queen killing it?
You're like, let's go.
That's my people.
Who's a straight drag queen?
I don't think they exist.
Oh, Kid Cuddy.
Yeah, Kid Cuddy.
Let's go.
He's dressing in drag.
He's appropriating.
He's a drag king, dog.
He's a drag queen.
That's a drag king.
I mean, do y'all care about this shit?
Like, they don't.
I don't care.
I just do think it's interesting, like, when depending on race, what you do, even if it's the objective same thing, like, the reactions are so different.
Like, oppose Malone did the same exact thing.
He wore the same dress as like an homage to Kirk Cobain.
The same exact thing.
And nobody cared.
He's got a headline.
Where did he do it?
It was like some big festival thing or whatever.
Like, it's not SNL, but still, like, it just doesn't get headlines.
But like, a black dude doesn't, he wore the dress.
Like, he did the thing.
It's the same.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
It's the same thing as like the Chet Hanks effect.
Go on.
Like, anytime you see someone acting out of character for your stereotype of them, it's going to generate attention.
So, like, Chet Hanks is supposed to be Tom Hanks.
He, everything about Tom is supposed to be Chet.
Yeah.
That's Tom's son.
Why would you not be exactly like Tom?
And then to see him getting like twerked on by Jamaican bitches, you're like, what the fuck is going on here?
This is not Tom Hanks.
This is attention.
And Kid Cuddy is supposed to be a rapper.
If you don't know anything about him, if you know him, you're like, oh, he should definitely be in a dress.
But if you don't know anything about him, you're like, you're a rapper.
Why aren't you doing tough rapper shit?
Also, you're black, right?
There's a masculinity attached to blackness, especially with males, right?
So, like, which creates the comedic juxtaposition with them being in dresses, right?
It's funnier to see the super masculine person in a dress.
If you take Thor and put him in a dress, it's funny because he's not supposed to be.
He's hyper-masculine, right?
And we have that outlook on black males, which is unfair to you guys.
Maybe we should look at you a little more feminine.
Would you like that?
Nah, we do it to ourselves as well.
But sure.
And also, you can go back and like, what are like the cultural, you know, what are the cultural like impulses that create this?
Like, you grow up in a neighborhood that's a little more tough.
You got to act a little more tough in order to survive in that neighborhood, you take advantage of it, right?
Also, like, media coverage saying, like, black people are more dangerous or whatever.
So you paint them as more masculine and more aggressive.
100% like that.
100%.
So yeah, he's playing into that to get attention.
Good, go for it.
Get the attention.
But we still go make fun of you.
You still going to get these jokes, bro.
You're a dude in a dress.
Yeah.
Like, you get made fun of, bro.
You can't get made fun of.
Come around the block wearing a dress.
What do you think we're going to say?
Oh, that's off-white.
All right.
When that shit come out.
You know, like, no, you're going to get these jokes.
I get jokes every single week for wearing short pants.
Liquid IV Hydration Secrets Revealed00:03:48
Still having fun.
I don't know what happens.
They still haven't been able to do that.
That's true.
You haven't shown him back yet.
Oh, my God.
You got shame.
I'll be honest with you.
I'll be honest with you.
I think it was affecting views.
I think it was affecting views.
Advertisers were getting nervous.
I think advertisers were getting nervous.
I got a couple calls from Blue Chew.
They were concerned, bro.
They were concerned.
We need you to cut that shit out.
Fans were ordering too much products.
They got jerk off in the panties.
That's what was happening.
That might have been what happened.
The pants are just like your dress.
You know what I mean?
It's like, man, he wore the pants.
He wore the pants, dude.
It's sad when you see a white man wearing the pants.
You know what I mean?
Man, but wear the shorts.
So it is possible.
So Kid Cuddy, I don't know.
Is he bitching about it?
He's probably not bitching about it.
If he gets emotional, if he does this Kardashian shit, then I'll be upset.
If he goes, this is what I wanted to do to get attention, and then the attention happens, and he just takes the attention, I'm cool with that.
But if you do the dumb thing to get attention and then get upset at the attention, I'll lose my shit.
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Stop Being a Victim of Creation00:05:08
That's what drove me crazy.
I think we talked about on Patreon about the Chloe thing.
Yeah.
Like where Chloe has this picture of her come out and it's not perfectly photoshopped like the rest of her pictures.
And then she goes, it's just, she tries to get wiped from the internet and she's like, it's just so hard for me to keep up with the societal expectations of a woman's body type.
And it's like, you fucking expectations.
You fucking wretched bitch.
I love it.
You and your family have been making women feel all of our wives and girlfriends feel insecure every single day for photoshopping your images, carving up your fucking skeletons, shooting shit in your body to create unrealistic standards for women, right?
You can do it for the entire waking every woman on the planet that can't afford that shit or it wasn't born even close to the way that you fraudulently look, making them feel like shit and made billions of dollars in the process, right?
And making women feel like shit.
Yep.
Right.
And then you're going to act like the victim of your own creation.
Mr. Frankenstein, if you get killed by the robot, that's on you, homie.
That's on you.
You made a fucking robot.
Robots go to robot sometimes.
You say, Bolt complaining about the world record.
He's like, who made it so fast?
How dare they?
Who did that?
How dare they make a record?
It's an impossible standard.
How are we going to beat this record?
It was unbelievable, bro.
I couldn't.
I was infuriated by it.
And I'm not trying to be like protective of women or something about over this.
I'm just, I hate people who have blood money and play victim or who have blood money and play virtuous.
Yeah, you really hate that.
I fucking hate it.
If you make your money with blood, now they're not killing people, but they are not making people feel good.
No.
Okay.
So you made your money with some blood.
For sure.
Exactly.
Harmful or helpful?
Not even a question.
Harmful.
Blood money, right?
Don't cry about how you're bleeding.
Yeah.
You chose that sport.
You know what I'm saying?
You chose to play quarterback.
Sometimes you get concussed.
Yeah.
That's what you chose.
If you want to make the blood money and then not be virtuous or cry at all, I'm hey, bro, do you get yours?
A lot of people made blood money in this country.
The Kennedys got some blood money.
Every rich motherfucker got some blood money.
Yeah.
Mark, reading this documentary right now or reading this book right now about Rockefeller.
Motherfucker got blood.
Yeah.
People got blood, and that's okay.
But if you play virtuous, that drives me crazy too.
Yeah.
You're going to have blood money and then tell me how to live?
Yeah.
Motherfucker, you got blood on your hands.
Yeah.
Generally speaking, choose one or the other.
I'm going to be virtuous generally, or I'm going to get my blood money generally.
Yeah.
Man, this playing a victim shit is, yeah, I don't know.
Well, just don't say nothing, right?
It's so easy not saying that, but I got to feel bad for you.
And we respect the people who don't say nothing and own it.
I think that's part of why we love the Joker.
Bro, this guy's just a fucking, he just loves mayhem, and that's what it is.
And there's never any like because the ecosystem needed to be evened out.
Yeah.
I love this.
I love that she experienced this because now you know what every girl experiences when they post their bikini on Instagram and they're scrolling through their shit and then they see one of you or your sisters.
Yeah.
Every single one goes, oh fuck, my body doesn't look like that.
My face doesn't look all these girls right now got to put a filter on their face just to post a picture on their story.
You know how tragic that shit is?
It's unrealistic.
They look at their own face and they go, this isn't good enough for the world to see.
So I'm going to put fucking deer ears on it.
Yeah.
And then I can post it.
That shit is tragic, bro.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
It's gross.
It's more sad when it's not even the animation, but it's just the subtle change that makes a little smaller amount of time.
Oh, that face tune shit.
You can make your face look like however you want.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
Yeah, it's just, yeah.
So if you are responsible for this, partly, I'm not going to put everything on them, but they are partly responsible.
They're leaders of it.
They're definitely leaders.
And they made billions of dollars doing this shit.
You don't get to cry when it comes back on you.
Hell no.
You shut the fuck up and you take it.
Yeah.
Simple as that.
Or get out the game.
I got a little respect for the Courtney because she did the least surgery, but also it's out the game.
She's just like, look, I don't want to be part of it right now.
It's just, I'm miserable.
And she did the least shit.
So, like, all right, fair enough.
See, I never get riled up with the Kardashians because their currency is attention.
So it's like, hey, let me feed on the standard and fucking cry about it.
It's like, I'm getting attention from both sides.
So she's not even really crying.
She's just like, I need to get some attention.
Yeah.
No, I'm sure.
We're talking about it.
She's buzzing.
She was trending topic for a picture leaking.
I still don't even believe the picture leaked.
I think create the problem and then cry about the problem.
The currency is attention.
They are literally Bond villains.
Yeah.
They've mastered it, though.
But do you remember that Bond movie where they created the tragedy and then wrote about it in the news?
Like the guy was this like media mogul.
And he's like, we'll just create the terror attack and then we'll be the first ones to report on it.
Yeah.
Like that's what they're doing.
They're terrorizing the internet and then reacting to the terror.
Yeah.
That's fine.
To just throw some fucking gas on it.
They're the best.
I don't think they are beasts.
Yeah, I don't think she's doing that.
I think she's genuinely affected, but respect if that's what they're doing.
I just don't think it is.
And either way, us giving it attention, they just make more money.
Every time we talk about them, they make money.
Jordan Peterson and Extremism Gateway00:13:40
Now, I'll be honest with you right now, if she came out and she was like, I realize how hypocritical I am, I fucking, it was embarrassing for me to even say that.
That's my bad.
I would take back everything I just said.
And she was like, I realize how like us Photoshopping shit makes other people feel uncomfortable, makes women have unrealistic standards.
So I can't really be out here complaining when a picture of me ends up on the internet.
God forbid.
Yeah.
You know, like, you won't.
I would go, okay, you're good.
I'm with it.
Yeah.
But you're not going to lie to my face and then me be okay with it.
Yeah.
Come on.
Now I'm riled up.
What the fuck else we got?
Now we're charged up.
Talk to me.
You want to talk about Marvel coming out with Red Skull based off of Jordan Peterson?
Can you break that down?
So basically what I read about it is there's an author, Tana Hisi Coates, who is a black activist and has written a lot about like, you know, black success and activism in the United States.
Very left-wing.
Yeah, yeah, very left-wing.
And he was brought in by Marvel to write, or I guess like consult on the new.
Captain America?
I'm not actually positive which comic it is.
Red Skull is usually the villain.
Captain America.
So he's writing for that.
And basically, I just saw excerpts from the comic, but basically Red Skull's character is based off of Jordan Peterson.
The philosophy of the character, right?
So basically Red Skull's whole thing is he's like, okay, I'm going to come in.
I'm going to give men that are lost a purpose.
I'm going to tell them that they're going to fight for themselves and they're going to fight for their culture and their people and blah, blah, blah.
But at the end of the day, they're left wanting more and they're hopeless and they're worthless and blah, blah, blah.
And I can get them to do anything when I make them believe in themselves.
Ultimately, they'll fight for me and whatever else.
He's basically Red School is radicalizing men to fight for his evil cause.
And then the ways he's doing it that are similar to the Peterson are like.
Right.
And so like they'll have little excerpts from the comics.
I can even pull them up.
But basically.
One was 10 rules for life.
Jordan Peterson has 12 rules for life.
Yeah.
So like there's very direct like sort of like clean your room.
Yeah, there's things like that.
Make your bed and like cultural Marxism or buzzwords that are put in there.
Yeah.
And Jordan Peterson responded to it being like, yo, this is absurd.
And then he's kind of leaned into the humor of it.
Like online, people started taking actual Jordan Peterson quotes and then putting them on Red Skull.
And it's like, make your bed.
Like the super villain.
Yeah.
It's like Nazi supervillain is you should make your bed in the morning.
Responsibility for your life.
Yeah, take care of your family.
Don't lie.
Like things that he actually, I guess, believes in.
But it does bring up an interesting discussion.
And we were having this talk like when we were traveling to Raleigh, which is like, I guess Tanya Easy Coates is implying that Jordan Peterson's rhetoric leads to like white extremism or alt-right behavior.
Is that fair to say?
Yeah, like I guess his argument would be that Jordan Peterson funnels people into alt-right Nazism or something.
Right.
So which Jordan Peterson is vehemently against Nazism.
Like, I mean, his whole research is based around how do we not create a Hitler type, right?
That's why he's against censoring of speech because he believes that those Hitler types censor.
He's like, freedom of ideas is what stops a Hitler thing.
And this is not me capping for Peterson.
I'm just trying to say this is at least my understanding of Peterson.
So what is interesting is the discussion, I think, is how much responsibility do you have for your followers?
Let's say Jordan Peterson getting people who maybe felt like they weren't allowed to love themselves or weren't allowed to have pride, or maybe they were like these white kids that were like listening to a lot of leftist philosophy, which is like, hey, white person, you're racist no matter what.
You're sexist no matter what.
And they felt a lot of insecurity based on that.
And then Jordan Peterson goes, no, you're not a bad person.
Like this leftist stuff about you just being born racist is wrong.
Like you're a good guy.
Maybe a certain percentage of them take that and go a little bit more extreme and they start going a little bit alt-right.
Yeah.
Jordan Peterson is not saying the alt-right stuff, but if he is the gateway drug, what responsibility does he have?
Again, I don't believe he is, but if that is the argument of Tanahisi Coates, is he at all responsible for what people who follow his stuff do?
Yeah.
It's tough because I think it's more nuanced than that.
You're not responsible for everybody.
You can't be, but there is some responsibility.
And I don't know.
I don't listen to a lot of Jordan Peterson.
But if he keeps saying like, yo, guys, we cannot walk down the path of supremacy, racial supremacy in any direction, white supremacy is bad, whatever.
Then he's doing what he can do.
That's really all you can do is keep saying within your message, like, all right, guys, let's try to keep this shit focused on what I'm saying and not take it further.
And the guys that go off the reservation have at that point stop listening to you because they're not listening to your message.
And once they start breaking your message, they're no longer responsible.
Nah, they're not responsible.
They're not a follower anymore.
I can't bring them back.
They found some new drug for them, some new place that fills the void.
Where what I'm trying to teach, and this is going off of what we're saying here, what I'm trying to teach is you have self-worth.
Once you have self-worth, you generally stop seeking a bunch of new shit.
Real self-worth.
You're filling the void yourself so you don't need somebody else to fill it out.
But if that void didn't get filled from what I taught you, it helped a little bit and it covered it up like a band-aid.
Then when the bandaid is ripped off, all right, I need my new thing.
What's kind of like this, but a little bit more dopamine or whatever.
Stronger hit.
Now it's just a little bit more extreme thing, then a little more extreme thing.
And I can't be responsible for that.
My shit didn't help you.
That's not my fault.
But I'm not responsible for you.
That's what I'm from.
And again, I haven't read, he'd be having a lot of rules, this guy.
So I don't really know it.
But you can't be responsible for it.
Literally distilled it down to just 12.
That's a lot.
But you got more rules than Jesus, dog.
You got more rules than Jesus.
Chill.
Jesus got down to 10, bro.
Lop to all.
Yeah, round it down, dog.
Who the fuck is you to have more rules than Jesus?
What do you think, Mark?
That's the thing.
I'll listen to Jordan Peterson.
I never thought that anything he said was super radical.
Obviously, there was controversy in what he said.
I recognize the controversy and I disagree with him on certain points.
He'll talk about leftist cultural Marxism and stuff and how the left is blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, I feel like you're kind of mischaracterizing what the left is trying to do.
But ultimately, I understand where he's coming from.
And I agree with his points on an academic level.
But at the same time, I don't know.
It might be reasonable to compare him to weed.
You know what I mean?
That people that do hard drugs will start with weed.
But a lot of people that do hard, a lot of people that do weed don't end up doing hard drugs.
Right.
And like, there's nothing wrong with weed.
Right.
There might be something wrong with being addicted to like meth or some shit.
Yeah.
The entire philosophy of making weed illegal because it's a gateway drug, that's a fallacy.
Yeah, exactly.
So like, yes.
Like, if you're comparing him to like that gateway fallacy, it's like there's a lot of people that get radicalized that don't listen to Jordan Peterson.
And there are certain people that get radicalized that do listen to Jordan Peterson.
So I guess what I would ask Tanahisi Coates is, do you feel the same way about Islam?
Yeah, some people get radicalized listening to Tanahisi Coates.
That's what it is.
I was trying to think, what's the extreme left version?
Yeah, I would say, like, do you feel like Islam is the same thing as Jordan Peterson, where a certain small, very small percentage of people, by the way, happy Ramadan, a very small percentage of people that are Muslim will lead a life of a Muslim extremist, right?
And Islam will, I guess, bring them there, but it's not really Islam.
It's like that person, again, needing to fill a void or these nefarious characters that are in their life pushing them in that wrong direction.
Do you place blame on Islam for that, Tanahisi Coates?
There's like a philosophy that's that is potentially being the weed, the gateway drug to that extremism.
Yeah.
I mean, or do you go, those are completely separate things and Islam is not responsible for that extremism.
Those extremists are responsible for the extremism and they're using using that drug.
What do you think, Al?
But one thing is like, if he was outwardly calling the Red Skull character Jordan Peterson, he's just taking a few of his philosophies that could be used to maybe.
Yeah, but isn't that the way you would do it?
You can't say that's like actual slander.
I think you'd get sued.
But it's a fictional character.
And like we just said, weed can be a gateway drug.
So if you're using some of his philosophies, that could be a gateway.
Oh, it's definitely pussy the way he's going about it.
Yeah, but it's still pussy.
Just call him Jordan Peterson.
It's just not creative, really.
That's the big thing.
It's like, oh, okay, you're trying to make this evil villain be more like bad.
And you're just copying some bars from somebody else.
Also, you're making the evil villain the gateway.
Like, it should be the evil thing, not the gateway.
Yeah, whoever is the forest right now.
The evil villains always have like a practice.
Like, they always have philosophy.
Yeah.
Do you think it was a sub tweet?
That's kind of the way I look at it.
Subbing them, right?
So what?
What's up?
Yeah.
What are the other things?
I mean, I'm just looking at it.
So this is an excerpt from the comic, apparently, where basically they're having a conversation.
This is something that Captain America says.
He says, it's the same for all of them.
They're men, weak, looking for purpose.
I found the flag.
You found the badge.
And then they found the skull is the next comic.
And he says he tells them what they've always wanted to hear and that they're secretly great and that the world is against them.
And that if they're truly men, they'll fight back.
And bingo, that's their purpose.
That's what they'll live for.
And that's what they'll die for is what Jordan Peterson tweeted regarding the comic.
So like that was the comic strip.
And then he basically tweeted and said, do I really live in a universe where Tanya Coates is writing a parody of my philosophy to be Red Skull?
So it's like, and then in the comic, it's like 10 Rules for Life, Chaos and Order, the Fastest Trap.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Very specific, like directed, you know.
Chaos and Order, like these big themes that Peterson talks about.
I think one book was about chaos.
One book was about.
So now what Jordan Peterson needs to do is have his version of Black Panther and just got to do.
And just take some of his bars and put it as the fucking villain.
There you go.
Because at the end of the day, as a fictional character.
He's going to write the next Black Panther.
That's hilarious.
Jordan Peterson will write a way better Killmonger than way better than Tanya C. Coates would.
And if Killmonger finna take over, I'm going to have Jordan Peterson writing that one.
Yo, I haven't read the comic.
Maybe the comic book slaps and Jordan Peterson got to eat this.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, if the comic book slaps...
That excerpt did not slap.
I'll tell you that.
That was a little boring.
Yeah.
It just on both of their parts.
Jordan got better bars, bro.
I'll take the hot shit.
Sing him a song or something.
I don't know.
It just seemed kind of cheap.
It's a poem.
What was he doing?
That poem about all the blah blah blah.
Oh, my God.
Come on, dude.
It's like, it seems kind of cheap that you're going to make a comic.
And like, you're not going to challenge his ideas in like a direct way.
And maybe he has.
Maybe I haven't seen it.
And granted, I'm also not privy to all of Jordan Peterson's work.
So maybe he says stuff that is misinterpreted.
Or maybe it is objectively wrong.
I don't know.
I haven't read his books.
But at the same time, it seems cheap that you're going to create a piece of entertainment.
Comic books are supposed to be escapism.
Yeah.
And then you're going to insert a current political agenda.
It's just annoying.
And there are people that are reading this comic that love Jordan Peterson that have rekindled relationships with their fathers because of what Jordan Peterson wrote.
And they're reading this and they're like, really?
Yeah.
Like Captain America, I'm trying to read this comic and you're making the bad guy this guy that changed my life.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, I think it's clear that Jordan Peterson has done objective good in the world.
Yeah, there's bigger fish to fry, right?
Aren't there worse people to go after?
This is the guy.
This is the villain.
Yeah.
Who's Hitler to you?
Yeah, like Red Skull is Hitler, right?
It's supervillain Hitler, essentially.
Yes.
So, like, who's the worst person that is existing?
You just take them and you make them Red Skull, right?
Yes.
Not this guy who you might find kind of annoying or whatever.
You know what I mean?
Like, even if you made like an evil cop that was like trying to kill people, it's like, yeah, that's the fucked up.
And there are evil cops that are trying to kill black people.
Their intention is, I don't know, in line with the story and the character and all that shit.
But instead, if you've made like this philosophical, like this philosophical thing that now, that being said, I haven't read the whole comic book.
That's true.
And I haven't read all of Jordan Peterson's work.
It could go.
It comic book could go.
And if it goes, if it's entertaining, it wins.
And it's smart.
Let me attach it to somebody who has some influence.
Now, people are talking about comic books.
That's the last time you talked about a comic before.
This is the kid-cutty dress of comic books.
This is, yeah, it's smart.
Well fucking done.
It's a cloud.
You go after somebody who has a huge social presence.
You know that people on social media are going to react to it.
It's going to blow this fucking comic book out.
I mean, Jordan Peterson is reacting to it.
He's putting out merch based on it.
He's like leaning all the way in.
He's like putting out Red Skull merch.
That's smart.
Yeah.
I mean, it's smart to play into the comedy of it, but who are you really helping?
You're helping a guy who trashed you and said you're Hitler.
But maybe he's helping himself.
Yeah, you're making money off.
I'm curious to know what Tana Hisi Coates is responsible because I've listened to a lot of his stuff and I actually read Tanya Hisi Coates' book.
He didn't seem like crazy radical.
You know what I mean?
He doesn't seem like unhinged.
No.
He just seems like an activist that's looking for black success in America.
Yeah.
And a sharp guy, obviously a good writer, but he has a political agenda, which is totally fine.
Nobody pushes back against that.
But there's another thing.
It's like it's tricky when you just call your opposition Hitler.
Yeah.
You know, it seems a little easy to just go to the jump to the Hitler.
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Okay, we're sitting here right now with greatest grappler in mixed martial arts ever.
Ever.
I don't know.
I gotta pull the mic.
I gotta pull the mic next to me.
Ever.
Ever, ever, ever.
Okay, greatest grappler in mixed martial arts ever.
Greatest.
I didn't say you said it.
No, I didn't say ever.
You said ever.
I said ever, but you knew, but you just didn't.
I said greatest right now, but you said ever.
Come on.
Ever?
Okay, fair enough.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
I don't know shit about you.
I was going to trust you.
You said it.
He said it.
You corrected me.
I thought you were going to get it out.
I was building the tension, man.
I know, I know, but somebody's just got to get out of here.
I'm going to slam dunk that shit.
You don't want to hurt people's feelings, but you got to be honest.
So we're going to be honest.
You got to be honest with yourself.
Okay.
You know what I mean?
The greatest ever.
Troll.
No, no, the greatest troll in combat sports currently, I would say.
I just say the facts.
You know what I mean?
Let me preface why.
Let me preface why.
And I needed to qualify you with greatest grappler first.
Okay, no.
But let me preface why.
Let's get into it.
You have had two MMA fights.
Wait for it.
Wait for it.
Sorry, Go.
But somehow, whoever you talk shit about responds to you.
I mean, it's the only way they get popular.
I mean, all these guys.
Are you good?
We got Dylan Dannis in the back.
We got Dylan Danny on fucking two.
I'll get into it.
All right, talk to me.
Okay.
Wait, where should I start?
Because we got a lot to talk about.
We got a big fight this weekend that I want you to weigh in on.
We've got recent Connor Dustin beef going on.
I want you to weigh in on.
Very recent.
I know you're close to the camp.
You know what I mean?
But first, I want the people to understand you.
I want to understand you.
Let's talk about you real quick.
That'd be like Elon Musk, like going to Ford or something like that.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't need a fight that much because when you're that good, it's like, why waste my time?
You know what I mean?
So, like, I just said the top.
I'm sitting here in Miami.
My voice is gone.
I've been fucking...
Partying since Friday.
Yeah, strippers.
Yeah, taking this sport seriously.
Yeah, no, exactly.
So, like, I didn't need to, you know, I don't need to fight too much because nothing really offered to me.
Got you, gotcha.
Now, you also had an injury.
I think you'd probably be fighting more if you didn't have the injury.
That too, yeah.
I mean, to add into it a little bit, but even with my knee fault like this, I'll still, you know what I mean?
You still maul people.
Yeah, I'll take care of you.
Yeah.
Is there anybody in MMA you wouldn't want to fight honestly?
Not trolling.
You disrespect them so much and you're like, this person is, this person can outclass me.
They have too much weight on me or something.
So to be honest, I had beef with John Jones.
We tried to set up the fight and he ran for like years.
I mean, John Jones was running forever.
So John Jones is scared.
I'm telling you, Randy, you see his legs?
Yeah.
You ever seen his legs?
They're skinny legs.
He got skinny legs.
I would snap that into something.
I'm not joking.
I swear to God.
Yo, he has me blocked on my voice is fucking going away.
It's okay.
He has me blocked on Instagram.
He's had DC blocked.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, he's like, you know, I'm not joking.
So you're saying that he's a pure MMA fight.
No, Jiu-Jitsu, you snap his legs easy.
Yeah, Jiu-Jitsu wouldn't even, like, I wouldn't even show up because it would be too easy.
I mean, unless they pay me a lot of money in a fight.
I mean.
What if he's saying that about you?
What if he's like, I'm not.
They bring him here right now.
I mean, come on.
Well, Alex is.
Luckily for you.
I was going to make a joke.
That was probably a bad joke.
I was going to say his coat dealer.
I saw the other night.
Okay, so John Jones is running from you.
No, it's not been like, I could show you my phone right now.
He's like blocked.
Either they was like, yo, I don't want to talk to you ever.
He was like fucking like he was petrified.
Really?
Yeah, no, I could pull up my phone right now.
Now, is he petrified of you embarrassing him on the internet because you're good with the trolling?
I mean, and you think he's genuinely soft, soft, you know.
Really?
You know how to fuck with people.
You're a comedian.
I do it a little bit for you.
Yeah, exactly.
You know, some people just can't take it.
You know, it's like, like, some people just can't take it.
You just know what you're dealing with.
Okay.
But you genuinely feel like, and I give you credit here because I was talking to Joe and I texted you about this.
Yeah.
Right.
And Joe told me when the whole Jake Paul thing happened when you were doing Brennan's show.
Yeah.
Right.
He said, Joe told me, he's like, listen, if that kid got on that truck, he would twist people's arms off of their body.
Now, he didn't, you're not in the room.
He's not trying to kiss ass or anything like that.
He just has a lot of respect for Jujit, too.
And he said, you're nice.
And then I was like, oh, is he really nice like that?
Because I just do a fucking shit.
That clip was awesome, by the way.
Of course.
I love that clip.
Now, I didn't know you were nice, nice.
And then I started to do some research, and it turns out like pretty nice.
You'd add the best.
Yeah, the best.
The best.
I'm going to say.
Ever.
I would even say you got out the sport before it started to peak in popularity.
Bro, I mean.
Like, you hopped out, and then there's this new kid who Gordon.
Domino, don't mention him, please.
You got to make his life, bro.
It's the biggest moment of his life.
You mentioned him right now.
We don't go by his name.
We don't go by his name.
Bro, come on.
They can't fucking pegs at the teeth, to be honest with me.
Come on.
He what?
If I walk around, he's going to be fucking on his knees like this, bro.
Come on.
But you guys had a fight, though.
Didn't you?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, we went, I mean, 15 minutes, and arguably, I believe I won the match, but everybody said I won the match.
Not even just me.
Like, everyone.
Not even one point scored in 15 minutes.
And I didn't, I didn't really.
I don't want to say it, but I didn't really train for that.
Really?
I was very sick at the time, and I had a staph infection.
And I still went to a decision with him.
Apparently, he's the best, but you know, he's trying to do that.
But he's doing a lot of the trolling and stuff that you might be doing.
Yeah, because he wants to beat me.
I seen him out one time.
He was like, yo, you're the best.
Like, I want to be like you.
This and that.
I was like, yo, you just got on my face.
Like, I was.
Do you think he's standing on your shoulders?
Like, what you built in jiu-jitsu?
Do you think he's...
I mean, he's trying to, you know, ride the wave, but you can't.
I mean, there's only one me, you know?
Yeah.
He's very cheesy, too.
And his voice sounds like a you ever hear him talk?
No, he has no swag ever.
His girlfriend at the time now, I posted it before.
He's been trying to bang me.
So, like, it happened.
I posted the whole thing.
So his girlfriend was like, yo, when I met you, like, you had this kind of swag, this and that.
And he was like, and I was like, yo, like, do you have a boy when she's like, oh, I know, but you have a presence about you.
And I was like, all right, you know?
That makes me feel bad.
I know.
I know.
I posted it.
Yo, I posted it before.
I swear to God.
No, I'm not joking.
So one time.
This is kind of like fucked up.
So one time he was fighting.
She came backstage.
I swear to God.
I'm just fucking around.
He's fighting.
He's fighting.
She came backstage, right?
And I'm waiting.
Like, I'm waiting because my boy was fighting.
Like, same guy was fighting now.
Manchester Carrie.
Yeah.
I probably could have gotten this.
No, she just came back.
He's fucking kissed me.
I was like, yo, what the fuck?
You know, it's LA.
I swear.
While he was fighting.
Her lips are cheek.
No lips.
Wow.
So you put a little tongue in it?
No, I swear to God.
Full lips.
Full lips.
She tried to say talking, but I shut that shit back.
Still fucking with that motherfucker.
I ain't touching that.
Fuck with that.
That's grappling with a wall.
You got to learn how blocks.
I was working on my parries, bro.
I'm not sure about it.
I think you have to fight him now.
I don't think you have a choice.
I think he's coming for you.
Hold on.
You guys have a shot?
You guys have him tequila?
We got rum.
We got rum.
How about it?
Give me something because I'm going to start getting some real stories, bro.
Yeah, give me whatever, bro.
I'll have a little with you.
Yeah.
No, no, come on.
No, I'm going to have it.
I'm going to let you have it, bro.
No, I'm going to have that with you.
I'm going to turn to Alex Jones in about 20 minutes, bro.
All the conspiracies about the fucking power.
You got Chopper 12 or no?
Yeah, let's drink the problem.
Come on, bro.
I got to get plugged, bro.
What was that?
That was like a freaking firewater, bro.
Let me grab a couple cups.
Mark, you think you could grab us a couple cups?
Yeah, because I'm gonna get into this shit then.
I'm gonna get into it.
All right, Liz.
I'm serious, bro.
You ain't gonna be talking, bro.
Now, we move on on you.
I got what you said.
Okay, you can't twist the top off.
Twist people.
You got the greatest grip in the history of MMA.
You can't take your top off the bottom.
I got a boating hat on right now.
I'm talking out.
You better be able to open it out.
You're talking all that shit.
You better open that shit now.
Give me the fucking machete.
Motherfucker went twice.
He's like, Not for me.
Stop.
All right.
So go.
So go.
So, okay.
Wait, where were we again?
You were smashing my man's girl.
Yeah.
Not willingly.
So he's wrestling with some other dude, right?
He's like, all up in some other.
That's a fucked-up story because you know, I never said that before.
Really?
Swear to God.
And you're sober.
Check the cameras.
Check the cameras, bro.
Check the cameras in that arena right now.
Really?
That's how positive I am.
And is he still with her?
Oh, that's foul, bro.
Within Puerto Rico.
Can we stop talking about him so much?
I'm not going to give him a chance.
Yeah, you don't want to give him too much claim.
I'm not going to give him too much clout.
Okay, fair enough.
Fair enough.
Okay.
I don't think this is giving him clout, to be honest.
Come on.
You got to show us popping, bro.
What are you talking about?
Oh, oh, oh, you might want to sleep in your bro.
I'm saying you guys are popping, bro.
You saying his girl tried to fuck me multiple times and meme and mentioning these guys.
It's like, come on.
We're mentioning that.
This is a really big show.
I don't know if it's now.
It's pretty big.
A lot of people listen to this.
Millions of people.
If Joe Rogan was like, yeah, no, I know how I sing.
His girl wants to fuck me.
I'd be like, that's not clout.
I'm not happy with this.
I mean, if Joe Rogan said that, I'd be kind of cool, though.
I'm like, you got good taste.
Joe Rogan's a fucking savage, bro.
Be honest.
Come on.
Be honest.
I'd be like, all right.
Somebody just got caught.
Okay, bro.
We're getting there.
You know what I mean?
John Jones run in.
Oh, man.
I'm fucking drinking Papa Choba.
It's delicious.
Come on, we're getting some.
So, John Jones running.
Okay, so now we have a situation.
Let's talk about this weekend because you're somehow tied into everything.
This is why I say you're the greatest troll, and I mean this sincerely.
I'm not a troll.
I just, I mean, no, no, no.
That's just me, though.
Trolling is different.
Yo, Connor is a fantastic troll.
Yeah, but like, okay, okay, no.
He's not a troll.
That's just who he is, bro.
No, you're a funny motherfucker.
That'd be like, yo, you're a great comedian, but yo, you're a funny motherfucker.
I'm a funny motherfucker, but I could also troll.
Yeah, but like, there's no cameras on me.
You gotta talk outside.
You're so fucking funny.
So, like, yo, if you hang out with me, I still like fuck with you.
Like, I fuck with my best friends.
You know, how about this?
How about this?
Remove the word troll because there's like negative connotation on troll.
I don't mind being a troll, but like, yo, like, that's just who I am.
Like, a gaining interest.
There's gravity.
You know how to create some gravity, right?
So, with this Ben Asker and Jake Paul fight, you were the first choice.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, yeah.
So, you were built into this hype as well.
Yeah, but Jake is such a pussy, bro.
So, because I was like, yo, because no, let me be honest.
So, but they offered me the date.
I said, yo, be honest with me.
I feel bad for his brother.
His brother's in the room right now.
His brother's like, my voice is so bad.
Yo, I've been fucking.
I'm getting my hands right through.
No, but yeah, he was there when that shit happened, bro.
Okay, break it down.
Break it down.
So my voice is fucked up, bro.
I'm like, okay, it's all good.
But Jake is a pussy, bro.
He offered me the slide.
You're like Gordon, bro.
No, no, don't mention him, bro.
At least Keg is like, you know, Gordon, come on.
He has like a lisp and everything.
I feel bad for the kids.
Stop it.
I mean, we're doing charity work at this point, bro.
Stop it.
Come on.
Stop it.
We got to get Gordon on the show, man.
No, come on.
No, please stop.
He's nice as well.
You have to give him some credit.
Stop it.
If he's not good, bro, then that's indicative of you not being good.
You have to do that.
Because I was in my training.
I went to a fucking rough decision.
You went to Kiki's?
You were at Kiki's last night?
Come again to Kikis.
Come on, stop it.
He's at the door licking the fucking floor and trying to get in, bro.
At the door, he's like this.
He's like, Dylan, get me in.
Come on, please.
Oh, my God.
But no, listen, hold on.
You got to stick on one topic because you guys are fucking me up.
All right, go, go.
You're going to have some?
You have some habit.
We're going to have to.
Yeah, he has that pump of troll.
Come on.
Okay, let's do it, bro.
Somebody's not the best whiskey you ever had to be honest.
It's not.
But what's it about?
James is shit.
No, not Jameson, but if we're going to have like nice whiskey, I like.
Oh, that's the best you ever had, Tayson.
Come on.
Trolling for the show.
No, no, no, no.
It's not.
Stop trolling, bro.
It's not.
I believed everything you said until right now.
I don't even know if you were Kikis last time.
I wasn't there, bro.
I've been fucked up.
Where are we going to start at?
Okay, so Jake hits you up about the fight.
Okay, so yeah.
So I was like, yo, my knee's fucked up.
So the funny part is I'm going to fight him with his knee like this.
I'm like, yo, okay, let's fight this and that.
Back up one second.
You had pretty serious knee surgery.
Very serious.
12 hours, right?
Yeah, three ligaments.
So you, MCL.
I'm not going to say the, you know, you know what I mean?
Like, I never said it before.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I never, I just say I got knee surgery because I'm like, I don't know.
Yeah, I'm you think you could give someone an advantage?
Yeah, I'm not advantage, but like, I just don't like, you know what I'm saying, bro.
Fair enough.
So I told him he's like, MCL, ACL, PCL.
I said, I'll tape it.
The whole knee's gone.
I don't have a knee anymore, to be honest with you.
So the doctor was like, yo, you can't do this.
It's not.
I'm like, yo, just let me do it.
Like, this motherfucker sucks, bro.
He's terrible.
No, you can't do it.
So basically, it wasn't about him.
It was more like, if I stepped the wrong way, I could have to get another surgery.
So they're like, yo, like, is it worth redoing your knee for Jake Paul?
I'm like, no.
I mean, like, who cares about him, really?
In reality, you know what I mean?
So I'm like, no, just let me do it.
It's not that big of a deal.
They're like, yo, if you step one wrong way, you might have to get another surgery.
You'd be out for another year.
He says, wait, wait.
So I text, we were DMing at the time.
And I was like, yo, just give me an extra month.
I said, give me one more month off the date that he wanted.
Oh, so you want me to push it back?
I just said one month and he wouldn't do it.
He just wanted me injured.
You know, so it's like.
Oh, so you think you got the offer because I was injured of an injury?
Ben Ashwa's coming off a fucking hip surgery.
Yeah.
He could barely walk.
He's like 50 years old.
Oh, you think, so you think Jake is taking advantage of it?
Oh, one.
One month I asked him for.
One month.
I said, yo, give me one extra month, and that's it.
And he was like, oh, we have a date.
So I was like, bro, I thought you were the show.
You're thrilled.
That's not one month.
You can't do it?
No, you can't do it.
Come on, bro.
So you think that you would beat him up in a boxing match?
Bro, stop.
I'm just saying.
He's nice.
I heard that he can box.
I heard he can box.
And I know guys that you work out with.
We both work out in the same gym in New York.
Exactly.
Right?
So I know you've been in the book.
Okay, I'm going to explain it to you right now.
Because, you know, I don't want to give my game plan away because I'm going to fight him.
If he beats Ben or whoever the winner is, I'm fighting.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
So, okay, so not that you're soft.
You're from New York.
You have more toughness than him.
Okay, right?
I don't know if I'm tougher than him.
Yeah, but you got hands, right?
I don't know if I have hands.
I'm a sweetheart.
Okay, so yo, say I watched you down for fucking.
You boxed before.
Yo, say I watched you down for 12 minutes.
Yeah, yeah.
How tired your arm's gonna be?
Yeah, you're gonna be.
Okay, that's what I heard.
Okay, but yeah, think about Ben Ashkren.
That's a three-time NCAA champion, Olympian, that has something like this.
Jake don't have that, bro.
He's fucking spoon-fed, bro.
Yeah, come on.
Oh, you think that Ashrin's got heart and Ashkena's gonna walk him down and exhaust him?
I'm gonna tell you the fight right now.
And I'm gonna mark my words.
Watch what's gonna happen.
First check.
Jake's gonna.
Ah, cheers.
I got the fucking plastic up, but it's all good.
It is what it is.
Jake's gonna throw mad punches in the first round.
He might rock him a little bit.
Yeah.
Ben Askrin's chin is nice.
You think because he got hit with that knee, he has a bad chin?
No, no, no, no.
That fucking knee could have fucking destroyed.
I got a car.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now he got big shots from Robbie Laurie.
Robbie landed huge bombs on him.
I think Robbie Laurie can't put him up, but Jay Paul's going to put him up.
No, that's a good point.
And especially with four-ounce gloves.
That's what I'm saying.
I understand.
I've heard that perspective.
And I spoke to Ben about it.
And that's what Ben said his plan was as well.
He's like, he's going to land.
Yeah.
I think that I'll put enough pressure on him and I'll put him in a position where it will be incredibly uncomfortable for him.
And he hasn't had that many fights where he gets comfortable in the danger zone.
Yeah.
So here's my question with you.
So you're thinking, because I've asked people in the gym about you, and this is what they said.
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They're like, you hit incredibly hard.
Yeah.
And you hit incredibly hard, especially if you're not.
Mike Tayson Jr., someone say.
Say what?
Mike Tayson Jr., someone say.
No one said that.
Yo.
Yo, no, no, no.
You got the proper 12 hands.
He's got a word.
He's not a sucker.
Like that's in Junior Son.
He's going to be on my back, bro.
Got tired of the lines.
Yo.
No.
Got to say something.
I asked him to spar.
This motherfucker bailed last minute.
I was there.
I was there.
You did not show up.
Wow.
I was throwing DMs.
I was showing DMs.
I showed up.
You were not there.
Now, I wasn't going to spar you, but I was there.
I was there.
Wait, wait, yo, what part of New York are you from?
No, I said, I'm from Manhattan.
Oh, I was going to say, I thought you were from like Queens or something.
That's why you didn't show up, you know?
Whoa, whoa, That's a karate champion, bro.
Nah, don't say all that.
I'll keep his street fight record.
Yeah, boys.
You're undefeated?
No.
I lost someone.
Yeah, he's splitting even.
Six and four, bro.
You might have to get out here, bro.
You're going, oh, I got Williams in here, champ.
He's a journeyman.
He's a journeyman.
He's the funniest shit he ever said to me.
I was like, wait, you had some fights and shit?
He's like, yeah, I'm six and four.
And I'm like, wait, like, professionally?
He goes, nah, nah, in these streets, bro.
I got caught up.
Sometimes I went after dudes bigger than me, and it didn't turn out very well.
I caught you at the tape part with my finger, bro.
Six and four?
Yeah.
It's not bad, though.
You're above average.
On the street, that's pretty good.
Yeah, it's all good.
Okay, ready?
Here it is.
Ready?
Ready?
Look, ready?
Yeah, don't pull that shit right now because I don't have to.
No, no, no, no.
You can't release GMs.
Pull this shit up.
Right?
I go.
Show it to the camera.
I go, I said, I said, yo, I said the shit about Rogan.
Yeah.
Right?
And then you say, come train sometime.
I go, bro, I'm down.
I saw you at Gotham with Rob.
No, but what I said, that's why you're saying that.
Nah, wait for it.
I said, come through Saturday.
I'll be there at 10.
I'm calling you.
I said, we're going to spar nearly gone.
No, y'all.
I'm tired of margarita.
And I go, well, when I was a kid, bro, but Smith is water out, bro.
When I was a kid, I go, boxing only.
I go, jiu-jitsu.
I know nothing because I didn't know if you.
I don't even know if you called that.
I took that.
You were saying you're going to box at me.
I was like, all right, give it to me.
Yo, I go.
No, you go.
You'd be like a warm.
No, you'd be like the same level as J. Paul, to be honest.
Well, we'll see.
You're from New York, though.
I said, yo, but tough.
I've been boxing since I'm 20.
You know what I mean?
Older?
You might get caught.
How old are you?
37, bro.
Oh, so, okay.
You go, yeah, boxing.
It's about like one and then like three later.
Yeah.
So look, you go, you go, yeah, boxing.
We can spar a bit.
I go, I say to you, I'm not taking it easy on you.
I took that as like, you were scared.
Is it?
Because you're like, oh, I'm not taking it easy on you.
So you're trying to let me know.
And you're like, yo, you're trying to be tough.
You know, you're putting up.
I was being fake.
I thought you were fucking a little bit.
You got a little scared?
I go, they go, wouldn't expect you to.
And then I say to you, which I go, but I expect you to.
Yeah.
Take it easy on me.
Exactly.
You go, haha, I got you.
I'm there at 10.
You were not there at 10.
Okay, first off, he FaceTimes me.
He goes, yo, we have margaritas in it before.
Like, I don't want to wake up that early this night.
Copping police early, son.
He's copping police, bro.
Yeah, Margarita.
He goes, come on, bro.
He's like, I'm on my girl.
J-Claws, bro.
You a liar.
Sushi, shit claws.
You got Rose and White Claws.
Why are you playing Margarita?
I don't want to get sparred because I want to get hit in the head.
He's like, I have a talk show.
This one, that's what it was, bro.
I swear to God.
Yo, I swear to God.
Oh, that's probably.
Yeah, my voice fucked up right now.
I was there and deadass.
I came there and I was like, he's going to ask me.
Yeah, he walked up like this.
Hey, yo, fucking headgear on and everything.
I have headgear, bro.
I have a headgear since you left this house.
Text the nose.
That shit goes mad far from mine.
Yo, let's be honest.
I'm not going to fuck up your face.
Not the best looking man ever, but like, yo, I was going to fuck you up, bro.
I came through with you.
Oh, yeah, rearranged you up.
He was like, yo, I boxed his kid.
I was like, yo, I'm going to go hard on this motherfucker.
I got professionally hand-wrapped before I went.
I had professional hand-wrapped.
I heard they walked in with the headgear.
Done.
I walked in with headgear.
I had a mouth guard and everything.
Bro, I had a tennis ball hanging off the head where I was practicing.
I was going to take a late spar, and he was like, Yo, I've been sparring since I was a kid.
I was like, yo, I'm going to fuck this guy up to the house.
I'm going to show him a little bit.
I was saying what I was going to do because I was going to pretend to spar and now I was going to choke your ass out.
I was going to choke your ass right the fuck out, bro.
I was going to do it.
See, that's what I'm saying with Jake.
He's going to try to shoot.
I said, Rob, put some GoPros up because it's going down.
It's going straight on the bottom.
You're down for it, bro.
No, but I was like, I was down for the sparring.
He was like, yo, I've been doing this since I was a kid.
I was like, yo, because I knew you knew to this game.
I was like, all right.
I was like, oh, my bad.
You knew to this game, bro.
I've been in this, bro.
I've been in this 17 years.
This is the legendary Polish.
Yo, get the gloves right now.
I'm not even Polish.
Get the gloves right now.
What's your ethnicity?
That's the South Paul Scott, man.
That's the legendary Polish power.
I'm not even Polish.
What's your ethnicity?
Say what?
What's your ethnicity?
Turkish.
I'm Armenian.
I know.
I'll just say Armenian.
I was like, we really gotta do that, bro.
Both of us control.
You did your research.
That was actually pretty good to do that, though.
I'm Scottish, and my dad is Irish and German.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
No, but I spoke.
I thought you were Jewish, by the way.
Most people too are Jewish.
Most people assume, but they're wrong.
But I don't tell them if they're in the business.
But basically, what happened was I spoke to Mike.
You were sparring with Mike.
Yeah, yeah.
I love Mike.
They train with Mike.
Yeah.
I sparring with him.
Yeah, yeah.
You guys were hitting each other in the face with me.
Pad patting, you know what I mean?
Yeah, a little pad pad.
Yeah, I was outside watching, bro.
I never was plotting on you.
This whole interview, you haven't once said you tried at anything.
I'm taking it easy.
I ain't trained.
My voice is fucked up.
Ask me anything you want.
When did you try hard?
But the thing is, guys that try hard and don't exist.
I mean, you're probably on my side.
Yeah, you're probably successful, too.
But I'm saying, guys that try and try hard and don't get there, it's because they didn't want it bad enough.
Who pushed you, though?
What fight have you had?
Myself, bro.
Okay.
To be honest.
All right.
If you want something really, really fucking bad and you want to do it, you'll do it.
All right.
There's a lot of outside distractions.
I'm not going to lie.
So, what do you want?
I mean, you're not the most athletic man.
I'm in North.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Are you not seeing me?
Are you not seeing me?
Smart sparks.
Hey, I don't see athletic bad bad bad bad.
That's a hard box champion.
I don't see athletic bone in his body, but y'all, if you try hard enough, bro, you can get there.
I'm just going with you.
You might not get there, but you try harder, bro.
I got at least one athletic bone.
Play ping pong.
Watch this wrist.
Actually, gay sports, he's good at, bro.
Two is good at gay sports, bro.
Ping pong.
I'll fuck you.
Roller skating?
Ping pong.
Batman.
Say Batman.
Pool.
A little bit of pool.
Okay.
Okay, go.
Bowling.
Back to Ben Asker and Jake Paul fight.
Is bowling like a sport?
I just watched it.
No, no, no.
Activity.
But I've been watching that shit a lot lately.
Some of those guys have the serious ass face, bro.
They come out like hard as fuck.
Yeah, they're really hyped about it.
Trash, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can't be flicking your wrist and acting tough.
Hold on now.
Let me think on that.
Can't be flicking your wrist.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I was flicking my wrist all night, but in a different sense, but like, you know what I mean?
Like, now you got tough after that.
How are you flicking it?
It's good.
Like that, bro.
I'll stay chowing all night.
Fake chow.
Stop.
Okay, okay.
Okay.
Why did your boy Connor shout to Proper 12 stiff Dustin on a charity, bro?
No, come on, stop it.
Come on.
I'm going to tell you right now.
That's one of my closest friends.
Yeah, you donated the money.
No, no, no.
I'm going to be honest with you.
That motherfucker, if he says something, it's done.
I would not.
Not even a second guess.
So that must be on their end.
I'm telling you right now.
So I'll make an argument for Connor.
He said, No, no, no.
I'm telling you right now.
No, no, no.
Of my close friends, yo, it's like one of those guys, like you give a handshake.
You know, like, you know, like you're from New York, guy gives you a handshake.
Yeah, you know, that's fucking anything he's ever said to me.
Like that.
Al's had 10 handshakes in his life, and he's six and four.
No, no, this motherfucker is 10 and 10, not six and four.
Yeah, we're gonna put it down there.
Sorry, buddy.
You're good.
Put it in my mouth, bro.
What did he say?
I'm not sure.
The gatesports come over.
All right.
So, this is the argument I'll make for Connor.
Go ahead.
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Connor said, we want to know where the money's going.
If I give you half a million, I need to know where it's going, or else sometimes that ends up in people's pockets.
That's true.
100%.
With a lot of these charities, like I even think if you give money to Red Cross, something like 90% of the money you give in New York, right?
Living in New York, right?
Defending Yourself in Division II00:15:06
Yes.
Yeah.
Whenever you bought it, remember when I challenged you to sparring in New York?
You remember that?
No, I thought you were running.
I started running out this time.
I brought my gloves.
You're like 6'9, bro.
You're running out of the fucking hood.
I brought 20-ounce gloves, bro.
Listen, I was ready to be in there soccer and bop-ums, bro.
I was standing.
I was doing a charity case, bro.
I was doing a charity case for you, Azzi.
I'm gonna work this guy in the morning and like hop on over, bro.
All right, bro.
We're gonna spar in jiu-jitsu, bro.
Give me gloves right now.
I'll do it on camera right now.
I will spar you in jujitsu.
Give me one of these, bro.
I'm gonna fucking jiu-jitsu all of a sudden.
You're coming along, though.
I could do it at Lamari roll.
You gotta work legs, bro.
You gotta work legs a little bit.
I could do all the roles.
You're walking.
Naggy, you're gonna knock it.
Look at.
My voice is fucked up, bro.
Son?
Yo, you're walking too.
You're my toenails, bro.
Be honest, bro.
You got two picks for legs.
Stop it.
These toothpicks?
Bro, you got two pick arms, bro.
Stop it.
And I got cake.
My fucking more athletic than you, bro.
That guy, he might be.
I'll take it down.
Take it down in jujitsu.
I put the Jew in jiu-jitsu, my friend.
I thought you were Jewish.
Yo, dead ass.
Who wants in a fight?
Between us?
Oh, Akash easy, bro.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm nice, though.
100%.
I'd be a bird bite in his pocket.
Come on, dog.
You know, I know it because he's wearing an extra large.
He's like a small.
I'm going to be honest, this is a medium.
But no, no.
You're making that shit look excellent.
This motherfucker be shopping at baby gap, I swear to God.
He's ready to go.
I've seen the arm.
Okay.
He's like extra small in reality.
Huh?
He's like extra small in reality.
Yo, yo, he's small, bro.
Leave him alone with me.
Yo, he's small, bro.
Yo, leave him alone.
He's a good-ass friend.
Yo, don't.
Yo, let him be small, bro.
Yo, My voice is fucking up.
But yo, yo, you're a good ass friend.
You know why?
They say he's extra small.
He goes like this.
What'd you say?
Hi, bro.
Don't be afraid.
That's my guy.
Keep talking shit.
He's going to fuck your cute ass brother, bro.
Keep talking.
He's a fucking cute ass brother, bro.
He doesn't bother you.
Come on.
Doesn't bother you, though.
Come on, camera.
Go on with camera.
Come on, camera.
He looked like vampire Jake Paul.
Don't it bother you?
It's a vampire son.
That's his whole motherfucker.
His whole handsome.
That's a handsome boy.
Yo, be honest.
But his whole style is a Paul brother.
Don't that?
He got that, dog.
You got that Paul.
Akash might hit that, bro.
Akash might hit that, dog.
Just off the street.
Off the street.
I'll give him a talk right now.
I'll show you going down.
He don't lost one round with him, bro.
In the bedroom.
What is happening?
I don't know.
We're so competitive.
It's like, no, he'll outfuck you.
Yo, that motherfucker's gonna make your night, bro.
Yo, you guys are fucking wild, right?
Oh, shit.
All right, yo, yo, but this policy is dude better than Alex Jones' one, bro.
You think we got it?
Yo, I was already got though.
I was really upset when I got shit taken down.
What did I say to you right away?
When the podcast got taken down or the episode on YouTube, remember, I was a y'all.
I got the Alex Jones' episode get taken down.
You did say that, and then you were like, Do you know why it got taken down?
I want to know.
Why it got taken down?
Yeah.
He lied a lot.
You were checking the paint.
That's pretty much what it is.
He said the vaccine gives you cancer.
So they just took it down.
To be honest.
Look at me.
Who knows?
I don't know.
I believe him, bro.
I believe him more than anybody else.
That's the thing.
He's 80% right about everything.
Bro, he was wax.
He looked like he was about to take.
I love the dude, but he's about to take a hard time, bro.
He's fucking very red, turkey, fucking 20.
That guy's a tank, bro.
Yeah.
The only thing that would take him out is a Clinton.
That's the only way you get Alex Jones out of here.
That guy's a tank.
Yo, you see when he stopped the car with the kids in it recently?
Recently, he's like, he punched the hood.
He punched that motherfucker bringing like a 94 Chevy, bro.
He fucking died in the front like this.
The guy's like, I ain't driving, bro.
The poor driver's like, Wait, am I transferring kids?
The driver didn't even know what he was doing, bro.
What did they find out happened with that?
I don't know.
It wasn't some pedophile, right?
Yo, I'm be honest.
You, my voice is like fucked up right now.
Yeah, but it's okay.
I've been licking ass all night, bro.
I swear.
A girl's at him.
It's like, you got to clarify on this podcast.
Stripper's asshole, right, bro.
You're fucking dude stripper's ass all night.
That's crazy.
It might have been.
Yo, it's Miami, bro.
It's Miami.
He's Miami.
That's not even his brother, bro.
He found that motherfucker.
He's got a shirt.
We go through the shirt covered.
He's been following me since we got back.
Out of my pocket, to be honest.
Connor Dustin, who wins?
Objectively speaking.
Actually, I don't want you to be objective.
I just want you to lay in.
That motherfucker, I'm telling you, bro.
That's a different animal.
I'm telling you.
But what?
Have you heard what they're saying?
That he's running the camp, and when he runs the camp, he's not pushing as far.
Not true.
It's not.
Not true.
So his coach is still running.
Yeah, yeah, bro.
He's bro.
That motherfucker is a killer, bro.
I'm telling you.
So, what happened in that fight?
I mean, the late, I mean, it wasn't just the leg kicks.
You know, I think he just had a different game plan.
He was a little bit more boxing heavy for the because he was looking at Pacquiao, you know?
He's preparing for Pacquiao.
And he's like, oh, Dustin's a South Paw, so I'll get in there and I'll mix it up with a South Paw.
Bro, this fight, I can almost guarantee you knockout.
Like, I really was off, though, an hour ago.
Yeah, did you hear that?
He said the fight was off because he was upset.
Actually, these are really funny tweets.
I really prefer.
No, no, I prefer.
I want the titties.
You guys don't have any bitches in there.
It's a sausage fest.
No offense.
What is that?
You want some titties?
You ever heard some sausage fest?
What is that?
That's what he was doing on the boat.
You ever heard of Sausage's Fest?
Bro, you're from New York.
Nah, dude.
What's a sausage fest?
What you do every day, bro?
Sausage Fest.
Wait, hang out with guys and suck their dicks.
No, bro.
Oh, it's a head.
That's fun, bro.
That's a whole hour, dude.
Yo, what's the sausage fest?
Bro, I'm not sure.
It's just like a party.
Bro, what is the most famous?
What is the most famous Polish cuisine?
Bro, I know it.
And that's going to say no one cares about that.
It's sausage, dude.
It's kilbasa, dude.
Oh, is it really?
Yeah.
Are you Polish?
No, but.
He's Scottish.
I'm Scottish.
You ever Indian food, though?
The best food ever.
You thought you were.
Oh, you know, chicken terra masselle?
Chicken.
What?
Yo, he fucked that up.
Chicken.
Chicken terra masseu.
Chicken terra massoo.
You got a little chicken terra masu.
He is on coke.
Chicken terra massel.
I'm a fucking boating hat on right now.
You know what I'm doing?
You did not call it chicken terrace.
Chicken terra massoo?
What's it called?
Be honest.
You know what it is, bro.
Something like that.
I got to get those tweets.
It was so fucking funny, man.
It's still there.
Can you grab that shit right now?
Yeah, it's up.
He added up.
He basically said, like, yo, the fight is off.
Because there is an interesting thing.
Yo, I want to like redneck.
No, let me hit him.
Let me explain, bro.
Yeah.
When someone has such integrity, yo, like that dude, it's like, yo, if you do something, you do something.
So I bet you Dustin was like, yo, he's not doing something.
You probably piss him the fuck off.
Because that motherfucker does everything, bro.
If he says he's doing something, he's doing something.
So I got to understand where he's coming from.
It'll be like, yo, you telling me, like, yo, I got your back for this.
And then I was like, yo, this motherfucker didn't have my back, but you know what you got my back?
You got to street the spar and then you just didn't show up.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Yo, he was like, oh, honey, Margarita's on my girl, bro.
I was like, your wife, I don't know.
My fiancé.
Fiancé.
He's like, I'm Margarita, my fiancé.
So I was like, all right.
I didn't have Margarita.
Sushi Babu.
Yo, wait.
I know the restaurant.
Sushi Babu.
Yeah, you were there, weren't you?
So shut up, fucking motherfucker.
This guy goes to fancy.
Yo, what you said was a fancy restaurant.
I invited you and you said you're allergic to fish.
No, I was like, yo, bro, you gotta keep me two hours in advance, bro.
I don't just show up with the person, bro.
You're the best grappler in MMA.
You don't show up.
You can't grapple with two.
You have security.
I can't grapple with salmon, bro.
That's a big problem.
Bro, last time I went with that, shit fucked up my ass.
Wait till you see Arkash.
Worse than the one in the asshole last time, bro.
I'm saying all this.
Okay.
You're ripped.
Yo, that's crazy that you can see that, by the way.
Why do you...
That's crazy you can see that.
Why do you wink with your ears?
That shit is funny because one of Dustins dumbs.
He does, though.
He does wink with his ears.
Does he?
When he talks to me.
I can't see that.
Is this live or no?
Cut that out.
That's fucked up.
He does.
Y'all are fucked up, bro.
That's my favorite hot sauce.
Act like that hot sauce isn't delicious, bro.
That's his hot sauce.
Look at me right now.
Yes, I'm looking left.
Yes, I'm not.
Is he not winking with his ears?
How, though?
Pull up the video.
Yo, pull up interview.
Pull up interview right now.
I swear to God.
Yo, you don't laugh.
I swear you say you're not.
Okay, I'll try to not laugh at you.
You're a funny cunt, Brian.
Okay.
You're ripped too, it branded me.
Yo, yo, yo, I'm not gonna lie.
I feel like I fucked with him earlier and now he's mad at me.
You keep staring at me.
I didn't listen to you.
He's not mad at you.
He's like this.
Yeah.
This is how he acts when he's horny, bro.
I swear to God, y'all.
You catching back from him, bro.
Dead serious.
He's been my bitch.
I'm not.
You out of your mind, son, bro.
I'll fuck you straight up.
You get fucked, dog.
You keep talking that shit.
Yo, you want to be yo?
Yo.
Yo, hold my pocket.
Only thing distracting me?
Hold my pocket.
Oh, I like that.
I like that shit.
That's that frisky shit, right?
I'm going to be holding it from behind.
I'm going to fucking get rid of it.
Play this motherfucker, hold it right now.
I ain't holding nothing.
The only thing distracting me from fucking you is your little brother.
Y'all be honest.
Take him a shetty.
This guy's good at fighting.
Yo, be honest.
What do you hold my poster by standing up right now?
He might hold both, but from behind you, dude.
You have to be careful.
He's quick to fuck.
Yeah.
I'm telling you.
I'm an agile little guy.
He's one of the.
Turn the mic a little.
What do you play?
Cricket?
I'll fuck you up in cricket, dog.
Stop it right now.
I'll fuck you up in basketball.
Any athletic ability.
I would honestly beat you at basketball.
This is not a question.
It's like legit.
Yo, I'll fuck you up at basketball.
I put 100,000.
I don't got that.
Yo, put up those Bitcoins.
You want to make Bitcoins?
Put up them Bitcoins, bro.
Put up that cricket.
Put Bitcoins.
100,000 in Basketball.
I mean, I've got 100,000.
Let's do it.
Yo, let's do it.
Hold on.
Yo, yo, yo, yo.
Hold on.
Yo, hold on.
This is so real.
We're having this.
We're having this.
I'm putting it on Triller.
Yo, is that about basketball?
Y'all, who you think wins?
I think.
You mean about basketball?
He's a capuchin, bro.
He can jump and climb and stuff.
Yo, who you think wins the basketball?
Be honest.
So his shot is wet.
Yo, bro.
Before you agree to do this, he played Division II college basketball.
Bro, my left knuck played Division II.
Be honest.
Yo, I'm not joking.
Division II is like we walk by, bro.
You walk by and you're in.
You show my body.
Yo, you show up at the campus, bro.
You win, bro.
You even play Division II.
I'm just trying to make him realistic.
Yo, yo, come here.
Y'all are.
Oh, my God.
Be honest with me.
I wouldn't even doubt he played Division II basketball, bro.
He's probably the point.
No, he was left bench.
You know what I mean?
No, I definitely.
Yo, Division II Waterboy.
I got that.
Division II Waterboy.
I don't know when you were the water boy.
Straight up.
With the two women.
Yeah, it's my favorite one in the water out there, everybody.
I got that.
I got that.
All right, son.
I want to know, dead serious.
Dead ass.
100%.
Could you beat Francis Nanganu?
Bro, stop it.
Would you beat Francis in the anime, or what are we talking about in the street?
It's different, not in the street.
I'm talking about okay, no, a jiu-jitsu.
That's like a joke.
Come on, stop it.
In a jiu-jitsu match, I'll right now, even drunk, I'll fucking walk.
Jiu-Jitsu, how, bro, come on, he's terrible on the ground, but he's so strong.
He can just.
It doesn't matter, bro.
Who's stronger?
You have anybody strong in here?
I'll show you on camera.
Oh, 20 seconds.
What are you going to show us?
I'll tap someone.
Oh, no, I know you can tap someone.
Oh, my God.
Can you choke Akash out on camera?
No, You're already asthmatic.
I won't kill him.
I'll choke you up.
I go upstairs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But then what Francis is right.
Okay.
Okay, Francis.
And the UFC becomes a time limit.
You gotta understand that.
And no time.
In Jiu-Jitsu, there's no time limit.
So these are the gosh.
No, no, no.
In a street fight, me and him to the death.
Like, to the death, someone's gonna die.
I'll beat him.
But in the UFC, that time limit might be tough.
Now, why is that?
Because Jiu-Jitsu show.
I'm sorry.
Jiu-Jitsu show.
Like, I can survive his punch.
I'm very good at weather in the storm.
So I'll wait.
Yo, I'll be there for three hours.
That motherfucker is not staying for three hours, bro.
He has one and he's done, bro.
Trust me.
He's the kind of guy, like, he's like a one-pump chump.
You know what I mean?
Like, he comes out hot, but yo, he's not going to keep that shit for two hours.
But if he lands one punch, Dylan.
Stop it.
I'll just pull guard.
You'll just what?
Pull guard.
Pull guard means what?
Is that when you get on your back?
Yeah, like, yeah, come on.
Bro, I stop it.
Pull guard means get on your back.
Yeah, like, yeah, I'll defend myself.
I know how to defend myself.
There's, yo, I can defend myself.
Like, I'm telling you right now, bro.
He doesn't have that in him.
So, so to you, you see it as an advantage when you pull guard against a fighter because you can submit.
It depends on where it is.
Like, if you're in a street fight and you had your boys with you, I might get kicked in the head.
So, you gotta be smart in each situation.
You know what I mean?
But just me and Francis, like, yo, we put his man here.
Like, yo, this room, someone's gonna.
The only person that's leaving is the guy that lives.
Were you already fucking up?
But were you always good at this?
Like, when you started doing that?
No, I wasn't.
I couldn't do one push-up when I started.
Not one push-up.
And when did you start?
I came and do two pull-ups right now.
I swear to God.
You're lying.
I swear I got my life.
Really?
Dude, there's a video.
I'm all technique, bro.
Son, well, there's the thing.
There's a video of you and Connor grappling, right?
And it's so interesting because Connor is very strong.
He's trying to use his muscles to manipulate you.
And it seems as if he's not.
No, he's very technical, though.
His coach is a fucking Tron Camp.
No, I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying strategically, you were defending yourself, it seemed like with technique, and he was almost using more of like that role.
So like, yo, when you start when you're on athletic like him, yo, but am I gonna lie?
No, that's fucked up to say that.
You fucked up one-on-one, though.
So, yo, I started off.
I was looking like him when I pulled up in the gym.
I swear to God.
Like that.
And then, like, yo, when you, when you defend yourself against guy, it sounds like grown men, but like, I was 15.
You got to defend yourself every single day, you know?
You guys have man strength on you.
So you learn how to do like, so like a guy like Francis like starts off strong.
Like, yo, when he, when he went to the gym, he was the biggest dude in the gym.
So when you start off as a little guy and then you become a little bit bigger, you learn a lot more technique, you know?
So I've been defending myself against bigger dudes.
I know you guys are looking.
I know you're gonna make a joke, but no, no, no.
I've been defending myself against bigger dudes as I was a kid.
Right, right.
So I'm born for that, bro.
Like, you learn technique that, like.
Policy Genius Saving Money Hack00:04:45
So it doesn't, and I mean, I think to be the best fighter, that's a big key.
No instantaneous.
Like, my defense is like ridiculous, bro.
Really?
Bro, I swear to God, like, I do better against bigger guys.
Really?
Yeah, I swear.
Why?
Why is that?
Because when I went to the gym, bro, I was very weak and I couldn't do anything.
So you get beat up for like a couple years.
You know what I mean?
So it teaches you to not rely on strength.
Like right now, if I take him down, any of you guys, right?
You're going to be bench pressing me off.
Okay, you think that's going to work?
You're going to get tired in 20 seconds.
Exhausted.
Like me, bro.
I wouldn't have been.
I wouldn't have been take 10 breaths if I was rolling with you.
You know what I mean?
So it's all about efficiency.
And a real fight to the death is all about efficiency.
Like a guy like Francis, bro.
You fucking piss him off in the club, right?
Y'all like, fuck you.
Like, I'm going to fuck your bitch.
He's going to go crazy.
Fucking swinging.
You got to be calm, bro.
Like, in these situations.
We're weathering that storm.
So, like, in the MMA, it's a different story.
It's a different, it's a different thing.
You got three rounds, you got five minutes.
But like, in a real fight, y'all is different.
Yeah, 100%.
Helly O'Gracie was 40.
I don't know exactly.
He was older.
He fought a guy that was one of the best fighters.
I was like 19, 18.
Went three hours with him.
And it was fine.
He defended himself.
Not going to take damage.
I actually wanted to talk.
I was going to tweet this the other day.
I think Israel Aliasana.
I don't know how to say his last name.
Stelebender.
He's my G.
I love that dude.
That's our homie.
I love that guy.
Yeah.
I think he won that fight.
You know why I'm saying that?
He's a smaller guy going up a weight class and take that much damage and survived 25 minutes with him.
Isn't that the whole point of martial arts?
The little dude to protect himself.
No, at the core.
We're not talking about like.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You think that he won like a moral victory.
Bro, he came up in weight.
He went up a weight class.
Yeah.
He didn't take that much damage.
And we also have to talk about weight classes differently in MMA.
Like that, he went up 50%.
That is the key of martial arts.
A small guy to protect himself against a big guy.
That's what everybody does martial arts.
Every single person.
Ah, philosophically, it's a victory because he's a small guy that's.
Yo, it's a loss for him, bro.
He's bigger than them.
Trained and come and finish him.
That means that his defense was so good that he's a real martial artist, bro.
A lot of these guys aren't real martial artists.
I'll tell you that right now.
Would you work with, because he's been working a lot in jiu-jitsu, I think, down in San Diego?
Yeah, yeah.
He was a yeah.
Would you work with him?
We talked about Andre Gavald.
You saw that slap?
I mean, I did.
Embarrassing.
Embarrassing.
I didn't want to.
I'm embarrassed that he trains jiu-jitsu, bro.
Why didn't he?
Embarrassing.
Why didn't he try to do something after that?
Embarrassing.
Bro, if someone hits you in the face like that, it's on.
This is Gordon Ryan, your boy, your bestie.
Why are you saying his whole life?
Your bestie.
Your bestie.
You guys are Eskimo brothers.
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Not by choice.
Not by choice.
You got raped.
Not by choice.
She raped you.
It might have been, to be honest.
Borderline.
Borderline.
You got to cut that out, bro.
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Okay, so you guys, so would you work with a guy like Izzy and try to?
Oh, yeah, I don't.
The thing is, is like people think they go, that was like a thing.
Like you train cars.
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I don't train hard, bro.
That's my brother.
That's my training partner.
We help each other out.
You know what I mean?
Would you help me?
I don't train people.
I got my own career.
You know what I mean?
No, that's what I'm saying.
I would work with Izzy.
Outside of fights, there's definitely guys that are helping each other and boxing a half percent.
Yeah, of course, I won't work with him.
You know how much I could teach people on the feet?
That's another thing.
He's a master and stuff.
Yeah, I'll show my.
I'm trying to get you ready for Jake Paul.
Bro, stop it.
But Jay Paul, I could fucking terrible, bro.
Terrible.
Okay.
Terrible, bro.
So there's a guy who just fought recently.
Who?
Kevin Holland, right?
That motherfucker pisses me off, bro.
Why?
He's not serious.
He treats it like a joke.
But he's got skills.
Bro, I fucking, yo, I dedicate my whole life to this shit.
Martial arts.
I've been doing this shit since I was 15 every single day.
And got pussy until I was like 20, bro.
Every day I want to be on the map.
This motherfucker is talking shit the whole time.
Like, oh, they take me down.
Like, this is not my y'all, bro.
Like, fucking pay attention.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So you haven't been.
What is he doing wrong?
Why is he taking down some?
He's mine, bro.
He's a, he's a fucking, he cares about other shit more than he cares about fighting.
But in the moment, when they've, they got the, what is it, double underhooks or trash.
But why, how do you stop that?
Like, why can't he stop?
Bro, these guys, bro, because you know what it is.
They have good striking.
They have this and that, bro.
They're not willing to like put themselves in the fire.
I'll train with a guy that's a striker.
He'd be like, yo, you tap him.
Like, oh, it was just throwing the feet.
These guys don't have like the ego.
Yo, he has an ego.
You know what I mean?
That'd be like, yo, you're a good boxer.
I mean, you're decent.
Like, you know, but like.
He's not good at bar.
I don't want to be like that.
Yeah, okay.
So, yeah, you'll be like, yo, me and your guy trained jiu-jitsu for two years.
Yeah.
I'll fuck you up.
How many times did you go up?
Be honest.
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm saying, yo, me and your guy train jiu-jitsu for two years.
I'm going to tap you.
I'm going to fucking be grinding your nose.
I'm going to be fucking you up.
How many times are you going to show up?
Oh, I'll show up.
I don't mind.
I'll be honest.
Okay, yeah, maybe you.
I'll be honest.
My constitution is a little bit different.
I tell people to be hard on me because I want to get better.
And I'm going to show you how to do it.
But for me, right?
But I understand the average person.
Yeah, yeah.
For me, I got to go train with a kidposter.
It fucking sucks.
I'm going to show up every single day and get my kick your ass.
I love it.
But you're going to get better.
I'm going to get better, bro.
And that's what I'm saying.
But a lot of guys won't have them in it.
You got like Kevin Holland.
Doesn't allow them to put themselves in a submissive position constantly.
Exactly, bro.
That wears on you.
You know what it is?
A lot of guys who like you see, like, I'm sorry, I'm not looking at you, but like a lot of jiu-jitsu guys, bro.
They fucking go into MMA and they suck.
You know why?
It's because when you're so good at one thing, it's hard.
And you switch to something, and all of a sudden you're that white belt again.
And you're like 27.
That shit, yeah, that shit don't go, but you got to have that inside you, bro.
There was a guy named Cron Gracie.
You know, Cron, right?
Me and him have beef, but he's a very good jiu-jitsu.
That's cool that you give it up to him because usually you don't give it up.
Very good.
I know.
I respect him a lot.
Jiu-Jitsu, as a competitor, I love him, bro.
Why?
Why is that?
Very good.
No, he's like a, you watch him, bro.
That's the kind of dude that's like technical.
He can go for like hours, but his jiu-jitsu is like Hickson.
You know what I mean?
He's like one of those.
He's like water, bro.
That's great that you could give it up.
I know me and him have beef.
Like after the Nate Dios fight with Kara the first time, he came in, like, give me the finger, the whole thing.
But as a competitor, see, like, a lot of these fighters, bro, like, they can't separate the two.
Like, me, they're like, yo, like, just fuck this guy.
He's a troll isn't that, but like, they don't respect what I do.
You understand?
For me, I understand.
You know what I mean?
Like, yo, like, yo, that motherfucker is good.
I give you some.
Cron is a very good fighter, bro.
I give you some pushback on that.
I think the reason you get reaction from them is because they do respect what you do.
They just think in mixed martial arts, they have an advantage of you.
But if you were trash at grappling, if you were trash at jiu-jitsu, you don't get a single response from that.
They ignore you.
They know that if it was a grappling match, you could tap them.
Bro, I swear to God, every single dude that responds to me on a Twitter and a comment, even a comment.
You brought up Kevin Holland because you know we had beef.
Oh, I didn't know you guys had beef.
I swear to God, I literally just saw it and I was watching DC go, he's letting them lock their hands behind who is who is.
Yeah, but DC, bro, DC isn't.
Why, why?
You don't like DC?
No, I like DC, but bro.
That's like, that's like Francis Nagana, like giving you technical advice, bro.
Oh, I thought DC's technically savvy with the wrestling.
The wrestling is not bad, but like, so these guys are bigger, like heavyweights.
Yeah.
When they start to wrestle and all this, like, they skip a lot of the steps, bro.
Because they have that.
So that'd be like, yo, you going to Jimmy?
A little bit skinnier.
Like, yo, you're going to learn the basics.
Like, this, that, that, that, that.
Then the bigger guy comes in like this.
Yeah, there's no heighty.
There's no heavyweights you think are technically like nice.
There's a couple.
When you know what it is, when you start a little bit smaller, then you go to the heavyweight.
Yeah.
I know I'm going to be able to do that.
It's like Francis because I'm small.
I'm not shorter, but I'm going to be skinnier.
If I'm going up against a guy who's 200 fucking pounds, I need to outpoint him.
That'd be different.
You came in that 255.
Fucking stretched out land.
Yeah, yeah.
So you'd be like, okay, like, so it's different.
Like, DC is good.
I don't think he's a good commentator because, like, yo, you don't need a guy like that.
You need a guy like Dominic Cruz, someone like that small and knows the technical aspect.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Bisbing.
Let's not even talk about him, bro.
Why?
You don't like him?
Oh, they got me.
They did your research, bro.
They got me.
No, I didn't know about it.
They got beef.
Let me play into it a little.
I don't know.
What are you talking about?
Fucking knock out his other eye, bro.
That motherfucker is a bitch, bro.
Why?
Why?
Why is what's this shit?
He talks a lot of shit.
Think about Bisming, bro.
He's the kind of guy who talks a bunch of shit, but can't take it.
You ever grow up and have a kid?
Like, yo, he talk a bunch of shit for you.
We all have, like, me and you, like, I'll tell you, like, you're a fucking bitch, isn't that?
You're going to say it back to me.
Yeah, of course.
And then after we're going to hug and go out.
There's certain guys, bro, that.
Oh, he's sensitive, you think?
Sensitive.
But he talks a lot of shit.
Sensitive, little bitch everything.
Really?
I swear to God.
It's like the kind of guy, like, even you're the same way, bro.
Me and you talking, like, you don't hate me.
I've been fucking with you all night.
No, I love you more.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
I'm the same way.
Bro, you're getting fucked.
No, I'm going to make love to you.
At least you guys agreed you're fucking.
We are.
I mean, I've been fucking all night, but yo, I'll take him down too as a charity event.
At least someone gives a charity over here.
Shaw's a proper squad.
That's what.
You're a funny conference.
Oh, yeah.
So, like.
With Bisping.
Bisbing.
Yeah.
He's the kind of guy, bro.
He can give it, but he can't take it.
And no one, that sounds really good.
That's interesting.
But like, no one likes that kind of person.
No one, bro.
Yeah.
And any friend group.
That's why I like Askron.
Askron will laugh at jokes.
I'll give that to him.
He could take it.
Yeah.
He could take it.
Yeah.
Shaub, all those guys, bro.
Shaub is great.
He's a great sense of human.
That's what I'm saying, bro.
And you know that because you're in the business.
Bismilly's the kind of guy like, yo, you be like yo, you're a bitch.
You be like, yo, he'll cry, try to fight you.
Like, try to be like, yo, I'm going to prison because I'm going to kill you.
It's like, bro, like, you're a bitch.
Like, you know what I mean?
That makes you a bitch.
Have you ever had people try to pull up on you for your talking shit for fucking, what, seven years now?
Nothing.
I have death threats every single day.
I never met a person that hated me.
I swear to God.
It's so interesting because you're going to be at these events.
You guys have to cross paths.
Bro, I've been at it.
You work out at the same gyms.
I know you think I fuck around.
So last time I was here, right?
And we went to the club that was called, but Masvidal was there, right?
Okay.
But like, usually, you know, I walk in, they don't pay.
Like, you bring it to a table.
Masville's right there.
Like this.
Like, turns his head.
I swear to God.
So I was like, okay, so they put me at a different table.
Yo, they're bringing my name out on license and that.
This motherfucker gets so pissed off, bro.
He just leaves.
And that motherfucker talks like, yo, like, pull up a whole foods.
Like, bro, he's not about it like that.
Really?
These guys are pussies, bro.
I'm right next to him.
I can give the owner of the club to like verify.
Like, I don't lie, bro.
My girl was amazing.
Like, I'll like, bro, this motherfucker got so mad that no one knew who he was and they were giving my name like a shine.
He just left.
Swear to God, my life.
Swear my mom's life.
So Masvidal walked out of the car.
Yo, right in front of me.
And this motherfucker be talking about, oh, I'll pull up on you, this and that.
Bro, he's not about that.
Where did your beef start?
Just talking shit, bro.
The guy looks like.
Yo, he's a journeyman.
He's a glorified journeyman.
Yeah.
He's trash, bro.
Trash.
But he's marketing himself well.
You have to give it up.
Of course.
Marketing is.
Of course, yeah, but yo, he's trash, though.
He's a terrible fighter.
He's a terrible chops.
Terrible.
You know, I like him because he goes.
You know what I mean?
He's the kind of guy that will fight you, but he's not a champion, bro.
But that's the thing he's doing.
He has to take it seriously.
He and McDonald's the poorest fucking thing.
It's like a serious bro.
But doesn't he seem like the guy?
I mean, the guy fought in backyards.
I don't think he'd be scared to fight.
Oh my God.
I'm going to fight in a backyard.
When you fight, bro, that's not scary.
Oh my God, if I'm in a backyard.
I'll fight someone right now.
Yeah.
It doesn't make me tough.
You know, like, when you know how to fight, that doesn't make you tough.
So you're not at all scared to fight people.
Like, you know, that'd be like me going to a club and picking out a fight with someone.
I'm like, yo, okay, does it make me tough?
No, that just makes me a pussy.
You know what I mean?
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, he, like, actually, he's so tough in this and that.
Like, fight someone that knows how to fight.
Like, okay, like.
Yeah, yeah.
If you're fighting people and know how to fight, you're tough.
But if you're not.
I mean, yo, some people piss me off.
I'll fuck them up.
But, like, I don't know.
When you were fighting in Bellator, right?
Yeah.
Would you be nervous before your fights?
I'm just trying to understand your disposition.
Like, bro, if you didn't get noticed, you didn't care.
Bro, Mike Tyson used to fucking.
There's a Mike Tyson fight that he tried to climb out the arena.
I don't know if you're not.
He was so nervous.
He tried to climb the ladder and leave on the top of the arena.
You can look it up.
George St. Pierre says he's the most scared person ever.
He's the best fighter, you know?
Dude, did you watch him on Rogan?
Yeah.
I watched a little bit.
Amazing.
Bro.
His haircut, though.
It's a little crazy.
It's a little crazy.
No, someone needs to.
He looks like Guy from Street Fighter.
But he looks like...
Yeah, he looks like my fucking salon artist.
You know what I mean?
You're going to say he looks at a salon, bro.
It's just ridiculous, bro.
But like, he's the type of dude I'm talking about.
Know about him?
What?
What?
Know about what?
Have a couple more sips and then tell us.
Know about what?
He loves the black bitches.
He loves them.
Loves him.
Loves them.
He loves it.
Really?
Non-trade.
Yeah, you want me to tell you why he retired?
Why?
I'll fucking teach you.
No, you know why he retired the first time?
Why?
He got stripper pregnant.
No.
Swear to God.
He has a kid, yeah.
Swear to God.
Did he knee it?
What did he do?
Flying me.
To be honest, with that haircut, with that haircut, it was a charity event for him, bro.
Really?
That's why he retired the first time.
Then he came back.
Interesting.
Look it up.
No, I'm not.
I feel like I was Jones, bro.
Check the facts.
Check the fact.
I believe you.
The thing that I was watching the clips from that interview, right?
And I even texted Joe about it.
It was so cool to watch someone that was so clearly obsessed with fighting.
Bro, I love it.
He's obsessed.
You know what?
This is what we're talking about.
Like a martial artist like that, bro.
I can't give respect, though.
That motherfucker.
Every aspect of the game.
Remember when they were talking about most awkward motherfucker?
I've been out with him before.
Oh, really?
Can't even keep a conversation.
Why?
Because you're not black.
We've had that.
You had the fatty, bro.
You had a little dark.
I'm not not Kagan.
Wait, wait.
You got a little something?
A little something.
I'm tighter than yours.
Go to the bottom.
Terror than yours, bro.
And I heard you have a little cake.
I'm not going to do it with Mark, though.
Don't let Mark bring you out the wagon, bro.
That motherfucker got the wagon, bro.
Probably not.
Dead serious.
I'm known for my wagon.
I'm not known for my wagon.
Pull guard.
You put his legs by his ears.
I'm sitting on the ground right now.
That's how big my ass is.
So what else, man?
No, I feel like this episode is going to get taken down.
It might get taken down.
But what else?
What do you?
No, all serious.
What do you want?
What is next for you?
Like, here's the thing with what happened.
Yeah, it's fighting.
You know, someone like Jake excited me, bro, because these guys in Beltar, bro, they don't.
But they don't know how to sell a fight.
These guys have like a thousand followers, two thousand followers.
And like, yo, you're going to make me go through a fucking six-month or a three-month training camp, work my ass every day, cut weight, and then no one even knows who the guy I'm fighting.
What do you fight at?
170.
And would you fight lower?
I could fight 55.
I believe.
Yeah, I could.
Because how tall are you?
Bro, right now, I'll tell you.
How tall are you?
I'm 6'4 ⁇ .
6'1 on a good day.
Oh, okay.
So 155 would be tough for you to get down to.
I could do it, though.
But that's a tough cut.
But you got to give me the right reason, bro.
I mean, that's the one thing I agree with.
You're not going to do that for 40 grand.
Yeah.
Stop it.
I went my ass for 40 grand, bro.
Come on, stop it right now.
Like, J-Paul, he's like, yo, give me, I'll give you a million.
After taxes, that was like $600,000, which is not that much money for me to risk my knee.
My knee is worth like, what, $10 million?
To be the best fighter in the world?
How much is this knee?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Come on, stop.
So, I'm going to trim my knee the wrong way when I punch you and get two months, two years out of the way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For J-Paul, and you believe Snoop talking commentating.
Why may Snoop is nice with the guy?
I'm going to be honest, a lot of people give him shit, but I actually like it.
Nah, that motherfucker is nice with it.
He's fucking hilarious, bro.
So, we need to get you fights.
I guess I understand what you're saying.
You're like, I could fight these guys.
Let me ask you something, right?
So, you say you had any fighter on here.
Come on.
Like, you're going to be like, yo, it's like talking to a wall.
Be honest.
You ever talk to a fighter?
Yep.
It's like talking to a wall, bro.
Am I wrong?
Yes.
Yes.
They've got compelling stories sometimes.
Yeah.
No way.
No, no, no.
Yeah, no one listened to these motherfuckers.
This episode didn't do great numbers.
That's what I'm saying, bro.
Motherfucker's talking about shoveling dirt in the fucking thing.
No one cares about that, bro.
Let's be honest.
We don't want to hear about that, bro.
His brother's shaking his head, bro.
His brother's on his phone, dog.
His brothers can't even look at you right now.
His brother's apologizing.
He's like, he didn't mean that he was drunk.
He didn't mean it.
Oh, my God.
It's fucking 12 a.m. right now on fucking shit face.
But be honest.
Be honest.
Do you want to hear about him fucking shoveling some shit?
Yeah, I thought it was.
I want to hear about it, but not like on a podcast like this.
Especially coming on with someone like you guys, bro.
Fucking hilarious.
Yeah, bro.
So, okay, so.
My voice is so bad.
You don't have to do anything on this shit.
You guys are fucking awesome at talking.
You guys fucking talking about fucking.
We're awesome.
No one cares.
Okay.
So here's the thing.
Hey, like, come on, let's be honest.
No one cares.
So you've done this work to build up your star.
Yeah.
And now you got to fight these guys.
Yeah, but I don't do no work, but this is who I am.
Like, these guys, like, you know what I mean?
I know, but I'm saying, like, these guys, yo, these guys are like, I'd be right talking to Drywall, bro.
Yeah, I, I, but, so, so, you're that last night.
I'm in Miami.
Yeah, last night in Miami, I got fucking.
Just let him go.
Yeah, I got like 300 girls around the fucking gaff chilling.
Like, yo, and like, come on, I'm 2-0, right?
Yeah.
Oh, he's 2-0, but like, bro.
Okay, but there's like other fighters here, like, these guys, like Moswell, these guys, like, they don't come out.
No one knows what the fuck they are.
Yeah.
I'm coming out.
I got fucking 20 ass bitches.
Like, this and that.
Fucking this and that.
Like, yo, in Miami, right?
Yeah, yeah.
These guys, yo, they don't know how to, like, they don't got personality, bro.
They don't got this and that.
Yo, you can fight all you want.
Floyd said it before.
Like, he could be the best fighter in the world.
No one knows who you are.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
That's all I'm saying.
So do you care about the belt at all or no?
Damila's like, I mean, I'm the belt.
It's the same thing as Connor, bro.
And I believe, I mean, he should have his own belt.
Because when you fight him, you make money.
Poor Poirier's taking the fight over the belt.
And what's interesting about that is he didn't say anything about the charity donation until after Connor signed a fight.
Bro, I'm telling you right now, like on the show, bro.
Bro, I can put my fucking word.
Yeah, I could put my heart on this chest.
If Connor says he's gonna do something, he probably, he, I'm gonna probably, he put that money up.
He might have been pissed off that they might not have somewhere to go and he might have took it back because of that.
That motherfucker put the money up.
He does not say something that he would not do.
You're from New York, bro.
You someone guy gives you a handshake?
Like an old school guy.
Like, you know, like one of those guys.
He's like, yo, that's my word.
That's him, bro.
I would never even second-guess something he would tell me he was going to do.
Never, never, bro.
So that's why that shit.
I saw that.
I was like, yo, he must be pissed off about something, you know?
Yo, he got knocked the fuck out.
Nah, I'm not.
I'm $20 million.
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Fuck out of here.
He's going to fuck him up in the rematch.
Watch.
Listen, I thought Connor was going to win.
Bro, come on.
I think Connor goes.
The only person that's going to be Khabib is Connor.
I'm telling you right now.
The full camp, bro.
The way he trains.
What were you saying to Khabib?
They got him so upset.
Because he was coming.
You're past my pay raise, bro.
You'd be paying me for this fucking thing, bro.
Bro, I never, yo, I never talked about this shit.
You know, it looked like you've been saying something.
No offense.
Put me on Rogan.
I'm going to be talking about this.
Put me on Rogan right now.
I'll be talking to everything, bro.
Well, FaceTime Rogan.
Yeah, you know what's crazy?
It looked like you riled him up.
I'm not saying you did, but it looked like you might have riled him up and you might be partially responsible for him jumping out the cage.
I was fully responsible, bro.
Fully, how?
He was out the cage.
Bro, you think he's going to jump off for anybody?
Come on, stop it.
But you see this right here, and he's going to jump it, of course.
What were you saying?
Some Armenian shit?
I didn't say anything, bro.
I was just making hand gestures.
What?
I was just making hand gestures.
What type of gestures were you doing?
Like, no, so I'll explain this to you.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so weeks before I posted a picture, he had my Instagram.
Can you go down?
So I posted a picture of him with a proper choice bottle.
Right?
Okay.
Oh, he doesn't drink alcohol.
Yeah, so his best friend manager posted, like, yo, we're going to fuck you in the ass.
I swear to God.
You go look at the comments.
So I seen that.
I was like, yo, his boy, he's mad weird.
Ali Abdelaziz or whatever.
Don't bring that motherfucker.
Stop it.
He's a peanut right there.
He's a peanut head.
No, no, his other boy.
He has a Russian manager.
He has an American manager.
Ah, okay.
So he says something like that.
So whatever.
The fight's going on.
So my boy loses.
Obviously, I'm fucking hurt.
That's my volunteer.
One of my closest friends, bro.
I love Connor.
So I'm like, there, so go down.
I'll show you the picture.
It's actually hilarious, bro.
Look, you see his hairline.
Look down, bro.
Oh, wait, no, you got it.
Nah, this is awkward, bro.
Yo, that cake right there looks like.
That's my ex-Mark.
I'm not talking about that.
Nah, that's who I look like.
Mark.
That might have been me, bro.
That's Mark, too.
Keep going.
That's J. Paul's girlfriend, by the way.
No, it is.
I'm joining.
Yeah, okay.
So, anyway, there was a picture I posted, and I seen that guy.
So the fight ends, right?
This motherfucker is smacking me on the back.
So, like, in my head.
Which picture?
You go to show me.
Look at his hairline there.
Yeah, where he looks like a little bit like Planet of the Yapes.
Come on, stop it.
That's what he looks like in person.
What are you talking about?
The guys are like, yes, smash.
Motherfucker can say more than one word, bro.
He's been in America for like 20 years, bro.
He'll make him speak one sentence, bro.
Fucking Deandra though.
So go down here.
Go down.
Right there.
Yeah, that one right there.
Where?
The one with the Khabiba.
Stop it.
So this picture, right?
So the comment.
So, right.
So the fight ends, and they start smacking me on the back.
I'm like, yo, I thought it was like the commission coming in to end the whatever.
And I look back, and it was the guy that said that.
So I was like, go back.
That's what?
Is he as a commenter?
Yeah, he was like, yo, we smash your ass.
You know, you know how those guys talk, bro.
He's like, we smash ass.
Talking like Akan.
He's like, yo, he goes, we smash ass.
I was like, what the fuck is he talking about?
So he's hits me on the back.
So I look back and it's him.
So I'm like, what the fuck?
So I was looking at him and all of a sudden he screamed at me.
So I'm like, yo, what the fuck?
Yo, like, obviously, bro, I have my boy's back.
I don't know.
You're from New York, bro.
Someone says, shit, by your boy, we fucking fight.
Yeah.
I don't care, bro.
So he's like screaming and then he throws a mouthpiece.
I'm like, yo, come here, bitch.
Like that.
Like, I don't know what I said.
Like, whatever.
He jumps over, then the fight comes, and everybody comes.
So, like, that was basically what he was.
Did you get a shot off?
Bro.
Watch it.
I want me to talk you through the fucking episode.
Did you put a little finger in his giggy hole?
He would have been the most action he's ever gone in his life, bro.
I hit him with overhand right clinch in my head when he landed.
I was like, yo, he might have nice hands.
I don't have the best hands.
I was like, oh my clinch up.
So I started clinching him.
I was like, uppercutting him, all this.
Oh, really?
You landed more on Khabib than maybe anybody.
Bro, I swear in my life, he was backing up the whole time.
I was trying to engage in the fight.
If you watched the video, he was backing up.
I was coming before.
I was like, yo, let's fucking fight.
This is also like, I'm going to fuck you up.
And then the whole thing came over, but he was backing up like this.
He was pulling away.
Like, those guys, those Dagger Sandy guys, but they all pull back.
That's all it is, bro.
Watch all the fights.
Islam, all them.
They're all like, they pull back.
They don't want to, they don't ever take the first step.
You know, they're always on their back foot.
So when he jumped out, I think he didn't realize that, yo, this motherfucker is nice.
So I jumped out, and then I started swinging on him, and he just out there, bro.
Do we have the video?
Can we watch the last picture?
I don't care, bro.
I'm telling you, that's the facts.
So you would you fight Khabib if you had the opportunity?
Bro, you know what it is, like in this game, bro.
What is he so good at?
That's Connor's fight.
That's like that'd be like, yo, and be like, yo, can I yeah, that's his fight, bro.
And you think Connor takes him if they fight again?
Bro, not even that second, but though.
With the right camera, yo, he was your improper choice.
We've seen it.
He wasn't as like, but look, he trained.
Bro, I'm telling you, he's one of the best persons I ever trained with in my life.
He's fucking sick.
So, yeah, he would see that.
Okay, let's look at it.
So, watch, watch, watch, watch.
I come forward.
I don't, yeah, who takes a backward step there?
Where is he at?
I can't see.
Yeah, you won't probably see it on there.
Yeah, you got to replay.
Oh, I got caught there.
Look at that.
Oh, yeah.
I'm getting fucking restrained by fucking.
Oh, he comes down.
Oh, that's true.
You jump.
Oh, he goes forward.
Yeah.
He took the backward step the whole time.
Is that just reflex?
And then who came at you and swung?
Yeah, bro.
I mean, I'm from New York.
Yeah.
My boy Andrew over here.
Are you from New York too?
Nope.
Okay, so you don't look like you're from New York.
What part of New York are you from?
Oh, Manhattan.
Yeah, okay.
That's tough.
The Burroughs.
It's real tough, though.
Manhattan is real tough.
Come to Chelsea.
He's over there.
Come to Chelsea, G. Actually, I think I seen him before at one of those clubs.
Interesting.
You made it.
I wasn't there.
I've seen you on the outside, bro.
See me through the window.
See you through the window.
I was on my way to the strike club in Chelsea.
Have you ever thought about going to UFC?
Bro, that's it.
Into the mic.
Some people say that.
Into the mic.
Sorry, I get pissed off when people say that.
You know how much you get paid to fight at Bell Door?
No.
Way, way more than anybody in the UFC.
The only person that makes more money than me is Connor.
Really?
Swear to God.
Ask anybody.
I make the most money that you, bro, for one fight.
Bro, there's no one that can even compare to me.
Trust me.
Why do you think I'm in Belt?
Come on, stop it.
So you have no interest going to UFC just because they're more high-profile fights.
Bro, I get paid.
Like, they pay me right.
UFC, like, they don't pay the guys right.
But exposure could be worth something, right?
Bro, I got my own exposure.
I don't know.
I'm a fucking goddamn fucking machine, bro.
Generally speaking, I would, I would, for a fighter who doesn't know how to promote themselves, put yourself in the biggest thing.
But if you know how to promote yourself, take the most money.
I'm 2-0.
You know a bunch of UFC fighters who's more popular.
Yeah, yeah, no, no.
You have.
Come on, it is weird.
It's genuinely weird.
It's not, I mean, like, these guys are probably there like fucking talking to a wall, bro.
I'm telling you, I know them.
I've been growing up in this game, bro.
These guys are like, they think it's just like, it's like these guys, bro.
Like, I smell it.
Okay.
No one cares about that shit.
Give me the future.
What is happening?
What's next?
What do we have to look for?
I want the winner of Jake and Penn.
100%.
Now, if it's Ben, 100%.
I'm not interested in that fight, though.
So you know what I was offered.
But I'm not interested in that fight.
I don't want to see you box Ben.
I like Ben.
No, you know what?
I'm telling you right now.
Okay, this is the first time I brought this up.
Yeah.
So I'm the co-main event on Holyfield and Tyson.
Oh.
Offered.
We don't have an opponent yet.
I swear to God.
Everything.
I don't have opponents.
So whoever wins, maybe them or I'll take anybody else.
And a boxing match though, because it's a boxing event.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So Holyfield and Tyson are not having another fight.
I'm going to be the co-main event.
I'm going to fight someone.
Maybe whoever wins there, I'll fight anybody.
I don't care.
Maybe me and you.
Nah.
I don't know, buddy.
No, no.
If you fight in co-made event there, do you try to take on anybody?
I don't care, bro.
Francis.
Give me Francis.
Logan is what I was thinking.
Give me Francis, bro, in a boxing match.
It has to be a longer time limit.
You don't want Francis, bro.
You don't want to.
See, that's the difference.
You mean you're not scared of him, bro.
I am.
Yeah.
Yeah, you are.
I'm scared of him for you.
Yeah, see, a real martial artist is willing to die, bro.
He's not willing to die.
I'm telling you, bro.
Why are you willing to die?
Because this is what I do, bro.
If I die in the midst of fighting or a battle, that's like, you know what?
Like a Samurai, you guys kill himself when they.
Yeah, where does this come from?
Bro, because that's my whole life, man.
Like, I don't, I'm not good at anything else.
Interesting.
This is my shit.
Like, you know, like, I'm not explaining it.
Like, I don't do anything else.
This is my shit.
Like, I love martial arts.
So if I die doing what I love, I'll be happy.
Now, I remember you were talking about the.
And I tell you that from y'all generally, I'm looking you in the eyes.
I believe it.
And I guess one thing I'm curious about is you're training now, right?
I was watching your show with Brendan.
Yeah.
And you were talking about this like.
But you had like a fallout with your trainer that you trained your whole life.
Yo, you made all these stories up right now, bro.
So, for me, my initial reaction with that was like, well, who's training with you now?
How are you continuing to get better?
You gotta understand these, like, some guys in jiu-jitsu are like fake humble.
Okay, yeah, I understand that there's like a fake humbleness.
Like, me and you come to your face or like this and that, big.
Oh my god, like, respect this and that.
But then behind the closed doors, I'm like doing Coke and fucking bitches, bro.
Like, these guys, like, they're not who you think they are.
You gotta understand, bro.
Like, yo, I wear what I do on my chest like Emir on a fucking bender.
I'll be honest.
Like, I train every fucking day, though, bro.
I fucking do what I got to do.
You know what I mean?
But, like, I'll be honest.
I've been here.
I'm in fucking Miami.
My best friend just wants to fight.
Yeah.
And I fucking, I'm partying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, like, someone like that won't admit that to you.
You'd be like, yo, like, this and that.
Like, these guys, bro, like, you kicked me out because he couldn't handle that.
I was real, you know?
And, like, that's just how this gets.
So, who trains you now?
You need to have some sort of shit.
Yeah, I'm in Ireland.
I kind of don't know them, but like, I'm in New York right now, but just doing my own thing.
I do my, I train myself.
Really?
Yeah.
But I love Kavanaugh.
That's my team, SVG.
Okay.
This is in Ireland, so it's like hard to get there, you know, with COVID and everything.
Yeah, but what about like actually training jiu-jitsu?
Don't you need one of these sensei, like one of these guys that has a legacy?
I've been training for 12 years, bro.
I've been training since I was 15.
So I know what I need.
You know what I mean?
Like, gotcha.
It's the same with you guys.
Like, you know what you need to do, you know?
But sometimes it's nice to have someone to push you past that.
100%.
Yeah.
100%.
So then who is that for you now?
Like, how do you, how do you get some really?
There's nobody else.
I'm fucking David Gong is in the fucking my head.
Swear to God.
Bro, you gotta be like that.
You're saying, like, but let's say someone who's like, has an incredible legacy in jiu-jitsu, like Gordon Ryan was willing to train you, right?
Like, you know, we might tell you a story about him, right?
Okay, so, like, yo, me and him had this crazy beef, right?
And he posts a picture, photoshopped of my mom on a bang bus, like on a bang bus.
Can we say one thing?
Your mother's objectively beautiful.
Thank you.
Objectively beautiful.
Yeah, okay, but like, which is why I would understand you would get into martial arts.
Yeah.
I mean that sincerely.
I mean, literally.
No, yeah, she is.
I love her.
That's my intention.
Okay, great.
Yeah, but you're respectful.
Okay, cool.
But like, yo, he put her on like a bang bus thing and like Photoshop her face.
Like, yo, I fucked her last night or something.
That's a little wild.
So, like, yo, so I'm at the gym, right?
Mouth kissing.
Yeah, that's true.
You did kiss his girl on the house.
That's why I did that because I was just out of respect.
I had to fucking get it.
Respectfully, I had to do that.
So, yo, so like, me and my friend, we get done training, and I see that shit.
And yeah, like, this is the kid I was here for, I'm Manchuria.
Like, yeah, yeah.
So, like, it's my best friend.
Like, so he's like, yo, bro, like, what the fuck?
I'm like, yo, bro, let's go to the fucking gym.
So, in New York, Marcelo's and Henzo's is like one block away.
Oh, yeah, Marcelo's is on like 25th Street.
Yeah, so yo, I get out of the gym, I'm like, fucking heat.
I see that shit, right?
So, I was like, yo, let's go to the gym.
So, we pull up to this fucking gym, right?
They're not letting us in.
I see the door guy walk out to get coffee.
So, we fucking stalk him.
We come into the coffee shop.
I was like, yo, is Gordon in there?
He's like, yo, don't hurt me.
I was like, no, no, it's Gordon in there.
I want Gordon.
He's not there.
This and that.
Apparently, he was there.
So I was like, yo, I'm going to fuck him up.
I know.
Like, I went to their gym.
You know what's crazy?
Holes Gracie.
I don't know if you know, Holes Gracie is Henzo's like man, you know?
Okay.
He's a Gracie.
You know what?
Recently, I seen him, and we're like rival teams.
You know what he said to me?
He said, Yo, you know how much respect I have for you when that shit happened.
You pulled up at the gym.
Yeah, so you can ask him, right?
Yeah, like he's their guy.
So I pulled up.
I was like, yo, I'm going to fucking kill this kid.
I said, yo, I'm fucking knocking him out.
He didn't show up this and that.
So what happened was like, Donner Hurd came to the gym.
You know his guy, Donner?
John Donner?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
He's always in the.
So he came to the gym and they had to make an apology video and everything.
They apologize.
He doesn't want to fight you in the street.
Like, he's just jiu-jitsu guy.
So they apologize.
And like, that's how that whole thing got like fucking.
I was going to kill him.
Yeah, I would have killed him, bro.
Interesting.
And just knee-jerk reaction.
When you're going to fight him, you know that he's also good at jujitsu.
Let's.
Yeah, he's not bad.
Yeah, no.
Gary, I fought both of them, bro.
I fought Gary Ton.
I fought all those guys.
But how would you fight a guy like that?
Are you going to talk about fighting?
Like street fight.
How are you fighting him?
Bro, I saw that guy has no hands, bro.
He's going straight to the hand.
Jiu-Jitsu's budget.
Bro, he's soft.
But your strategy is straight.
Bro, you pull up his voice right now.
You see how soft he is.
He has like a fight with him.
Fight goes to the ground eventually.
Bro, he's like, you know what?
But that's what you probably think I'm scared to go on the ground with him.
Motherfucker had fucking 15 minutes.
Give him score a point.
I mean, I wasn't even training, and he's like, I'm talking about he's the best in the world.
He's fucking trash.
Stop bringing this kid up, though, because I don't want to talk about him.
Trash, bro.
Trash.
Like, literal trash, bro.
Bro, I'm not joking.
Like, he's.
Can his girl kiss well?
Motherfucker, bro.
I'm not with her, so no.
All right, listen.
We don't want to take too much of your time.
Dylan, I just want to know the future.
Tell me just what I want the winner of Ben and Jake.
That's if it's Jake.
If it's Ben.
It could be Ben.
Bro, come on.
Stop.
Me and you would buy me and Ben.
But what is that fight?
Is it a boxing match?
I'm not a casual fan.
I'm not a Ben.
I like Ben.
Because Ben came on here, but you wouldn't have known Ben before that.
No, no, he didn't come on here.
Ben Hadman on here.
I would love for Ben to be on, but he's funny.
I saw some of his interviews.
He's good.
He's funny.
No, no.
He is genuinely funny.
That'd be all funny.
Am I funny, though?
Look at me in the eyes.
Am I funny?
He's the funniest ever.
Ever.
Funniest ever.
The funniest Armenian MMA fighter from Manhattan.
Ever.
All right.
So you want the winner of that.
He's the best.
Jake Paul.
I hope it's Jake Paul.
I would like to see someone else.
Jake won't win.
But it is interesting.
Not really, no.
No, no.
Because you're a casual, but you think Jake is funny?
Isn't that bro?
Come on, stop.
You think he doesn't have any fucking sense of humor?
No person.
We never said he was funny.
We said he would win.
No, no.
Yeah, but he likes him because I've seen his shit.
Here's the thing.
He was a sweet kid.
He's been sweet with me.
And I've been asking people in gyms.
I have some connections with people in gyms.
I know.
How his boxing is.
And just like I asked about you.
Bro, he's sparring with guys that are journeymen.
But the fact that they've had rounds.
They've had rounds.
The reason they're going to train with Jake Paul is because they want that one-minute clout.
They don't want their fucking guys like him, six and four.
No offense to him.
But you know what I mean?
You guys are like six and four in dirt.
It was the entertainment.
Yo, let me go train with Jake Paul.
Oh my God, he's so good.
I asked Askarin, and he said the same thing as you.
He literally just said, I'm just going to be around.
Bro, as much as me and Bannister have our fucking beef, I fucking, whatever, this and that.
Yeah.
That motherfucker is a fucking winner.
You got to understand that, bro.
And if I fought Ben Askron, I'm not going to take a knot lately.
That motherfucker is a winner, bro.
He's a three-time NCA.
No, already he's a BNCA champion.
100%.
I guess my question for you is this.
And then this is my final one because I know you guys got more partying to do.
If.
Hey, we got me whacked now.
I'm happy.
We're ready.
So if, do you think that MMA right now is shifting a bit where that's because of me, by the way?
Okay.
I'll be honest, bro.
They're starting to see how much.
Yo, look at Derek Bunsen just posted a picture of me.
I'm telling you.
I saw you guys in a role.
Yeah, bro.
These guys had to fucking pick it up, bro.
It's embarrassing at some point.
Like, yo, these guys don't.
They got to step it up.
Am I wrong?
I mean, you're a fucking funny person.
I mean the athlete.
No, no, you're 100% right.
I think fighters have to market themselves much better.
And the fighters that I've been cool enough to, you know, meet in Israel is really good at it.
I love Izzy, though.
He's a fucking savage.
I'll be honest with you, and we've said on the podcast, I want you guys to do the most devastating thing to make a living, and I want you guys to make all the money you do.
I'm going to tell you right now, between me and you, like, I don't want to be fucking 39 and fucking back breaking every day and be broke.
100%.
100%.
I want you to get it.
That's not me, bro.
I'm going to fucking get my money out of this.
Get it.
Get it.
Now, here's the thing.
Fighters Marketing Themselves Better00:05:07
Do you think that MMA is moving away from an era where jujitsu dominated and now an era where wrestling and striking is more dominant?
Bro, does it feel that way?
The jiu-jitsu now is not jiu-jitsu.
These guys say they're jiu-jitsu guys, bro.
Yeah, it's different.
I'll train with a guy that says he's a jiu-jitsu guy, and I'll tap him.
It's different, bro.
Jiu-Jitsu always is the marshaller.
I'm telling you right now.
You're getting a watered-down version of it.
So the elite jujitsu guys are not entering the sport.
Yeah, I'm telling you right now.
Or if they are, they're handy.
Give me any fight.
Can you say you want to put me against someone?
And you want to fight at 170 or 170?
170.
Who would you want to see me?
What about Colby Covington?
I was just actually around him.
Yeah, he's a motherfucker, but that's a good kid, though.
Very, I mean, he's he plays a character.
I'll tell you this.
He might play the character, but he's different than me.
He's like, yo, on the comers, come on, I'm going to fuck with you.
Like, he's kind of like, he plays the whole character.
You know what I mean?
Like, yo, I'm like, this is me.
But outside of the character, I hear he's kind of sweet guy.
Yeah, but like, that's like, similarly, Kobe, like, that's the easy fight, bro.
Really?
Even though he has the wrestling background and everything.
I'll pull Gordon.
Who do you, is there anybody that you're like, yo, I know you'd say you'd still win, and I believe that?
Fine, I still win, but that guy would give me a no, I believe that.
2-0 is a very important thing.
He's undefeated too.
Yeah, 0-1-0.
3-0 when you come over.
Is there anybody that you're like, oh, I would still win, but he would give me trouble for my skill set.
A little bit of trouble, even.
Cron.
But Cron's, I'm in the conversation with him.
Okay, fair enough.
He lost his last fight.
That's right.
That's right.
Okay, who else?
Somebody else.
Come on, come on, come on.
Kamara Uzman?
He's good.
He'd be a tough fight, but the one thing is he runs, though.
You know what I mean?
He stays on the outside.
Yeah, yeah.
But his wrestling is strong and he's strong.
Trash, though.
But this motherfucker has been ripping Africa.
This whole thing.
When he came to America, when he was wrestling, he was like, yo, I switched his name to Marty.
He was ripping Nebraska.
He didn't want to be from another country.
And now he's like, oh, I'm fucking from Africa.
Yeah, yeah.
Bro, that's just embarrassing.
I think he calls himself Nebraska.
But think about something.
How embarrassing is that?
It's like, okay, now that I'm the champ, I'm going to be out Africa.
But like two years ago, when I was insecure, I changed my name and I was like, I'm from Nebraska.
But when you're young and you're trying to find out, man.
That's bullshit, bro.
Now you want to claim him?
Now let's claim him when he wants to be cool and be rich.
Everybody knows when you're rich.
You're trying your identity.
Bro, when you're at the top, it's easy, bro.
Yeah, fuck that.
I'm not Indian.
I know what you mean, but young to me is like teens.
It's not like.
Yeah, but yo, I'm really 20 and this and that.
And then all of a sudden he like he's rich and successful now.
But I'm saying, but like if you became that, and then you're like, yo, like, now I'm from Indian.
But no, but before I was from Queens.
13, 14, and he calls himself what he said.
17, 18, right?
What's your name?
He's probably Ash or something like that.
You know, he changed his name.
He said Kashmir.
He said Aspirin.
Cashmere.
Kashmir.
Aspirin.
Okay.
So.
Kashmir.
So, so Marty would be a tough fight.
Anybody else?
I'm not.
You guys are making it like that.
Like, obviously, every fight is tough.
I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying that.
It's not.
I do believe, I swear on my life, I'll tell you right now, looking at you and lying, I believe my jiu-jitsu is better than everybody.
I really do.
And you have reason to believe that.
Yeah, of course, yeah.
Okay, so someone beat me to then show me that it doesn't.
Am I wrong?
Yeah.
Guys, this has been Dylan Dennis, everybody.
Yo, you can step up right now.
I'm just joking.
Yo, thank you so much for coming.
I appreciate you, man.
We really appreciate you coming through, man.
You guys are awesome, bro.
I fucking love you.
Go check out Dylan.
You already know his Instagram.
Wow, great fucking boy.
I love you guys.
This is so much fun.
And we're fans, dude.
We're fans.
You know what always happens?
No, this episode is going to get a lot of dislikes because people hate me.
But they'll all be watching though.
Haters and lovers pay the same price of admission.
That's very important.
Either you're hate me.
I will say this.
What I've always noticed about people who are inflammatory on the internet is, and this goes from Alex Jones to 6ix9ine.
I want to be Alex Jones.
We can hold that.
So you love that, dude.
No, we can work that out.
Is when you meet them in person, they're charming.
Am I charming?
You're charming.
You're likable.
I like that.
You're likable and you're charming in person.
And it is an interesting thing, right?
It's like, it's like, it's almost like charm is a, is a skill and you can use it for like bad intentions or good intentions.
Right.
And it's easier to get attention sometimes when you use it for bad attention.
Yeah.
You can't meet you one-on-one on the internet.
Exactly.
But then when you have these long-form conversations, you're like, ah, look, like Ben Askrin, perfect example.
If he's just trolling, and then you have like a long talk with them, you're like, oh, this guy's fucking funny.
And you do the same thing.
So I'm cool to see.
I'm cool.
I'm interested to see people hear you the whole episode and then start to go, oh, actually, I kind of like this guy.
He like balls.
Yeah, but they'll never admit it.
You know what I mean?
Wait, with Alex Jones, people hated that motherfucker.
I love that motherfucker, to be honest.
But here's the thing.
There people came on hating him.
And then afterward, they were like, all right, I don't agree with him, but the guy's kind of funny.