50 Cent and Chris Pratt expose fake wokeness in Hollywood, critiquing Democratic tax plans that target the middle class while wealthy elites exploit loopholes. The hosts debunk baseless allegations against Pratt regarding his church attendance, noting Marvel stars' defenses suggest a clout-driven campaign similar to James Gunn's reinstatement. They further analyze Roy Jones Jr.'s refusal to credit his abusive trainer father and reflect on how political polarization benefits those unaware of systemic mechanics. Ultimately, the discussion challenges performative altruism, arguing that true integrity requires understanding underlying power dynamics rather than adopting superficial moral stances. [Automatically generated summary]
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Why We Support 50 Cent00:14:34
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That's why I got to big up 50 Cent.
Yo, and that is a perfect transition to the future.
So I got to take up 50 cents.
Because 50 Cent, he knows the majority of his base is black people.
They watch all his power and all this type of shit.
And he came out and was like, yo, I'm voting for Trump because Biden's tax plan is going to make me pay more and I'm not trying to do it.
He had a funny tweet.
He's like, I'm trying to not be 20 cent.
Oh, shit.
I didn't see that.
That's a funny caption.
But what I love about that honesty.
And honestly, if we looked at people for what they vote for, if we look, really judge people based on the way they vote for their selfishness and not for their altruism, everything would make sense.
Right?
But the fact that we have to have this like pseudo altruism when we do every act in our life, when we can't live up to that, which we won't be able to because that's not our intention in the first place, right?
We're always going to let people down.
So with 50 Cent, the expectation is, well, you're a black man.
And obviously there's only one party that cares about black people, allegedly.
Like if you look at their records, there's no record that shows that they actually care more about black people than Trump per se, right?
And he comes out and he goes, this is going to hurt me.
This is going to affect me.
If 60%, if the taxes are 60% in New York, that's going to fuck me up.
Right?
62%.
I think that's where they're saying the plan is.
And then they were trying to justify by saying, well, this only affects people making $400,000 and more.
And it's like, you know what's really interesting?
It's going after the exact tax bracket of people that don't have the ability to make all those write-offs that the super millionaires and billionaires do to make their taxes nothing.
Right?
So like, let's say you're making $400,000 a year.
Let's say you're like a high-level exec at like a corporation.
You can't find a way to pay $0 in taxes.
You don't own the corporation.
You don't, you can't like create a little corporation and get paid through so you can do all these other write-offs and shit like that.
You won't pay that 62%.
You're going to get crushed.
So they found a way to tax the rich without taxing the real rich, the wealthy that are funding their fucking campaigns.
It's almost like they're sitting down, like Biden and Kamala are sitting down.
I'm sure Trump and them do this.
Well, Trump and them are just like, let's just tax less.
But same thing.
It's almost like, all right, well, how do we devise a tax plan that can not fuck over the people that are giving us money, but fuck over the kind of rich people?
Yeah.
It's fucking genius.
You could be right.
What I was thinking when I read this, first of all, I think the actual tax rate only went up like 7% on the federal, but then you add city and state, whatever.
But I was thinking this is window dressing.
This is something so Biden can campaign and say, hey, look at me raising taxes on the wealthy, not wealthy people.
I care about you.
But then when you're actually looking, there's probably mad loopholes, even at 400,000.
I'm sure there's more.
But I think even at 400,000, you ain't paying no fuck.
Anybody paying 63%?
No, you're an idiot.
You're a fucking loser straight up.
Nobody's doing that.
So that's what I was thinking.
It's, hey, let's just get votes.
Any Democratic tax plan is let's just get votes.
That's fine.
That's the thing, man.
It's just, I don't know.
It just drives me fucking crazy when people add this like noble cause to what they're doing that's inherently selfish.
And I'm okay if you're being inherently selfish.
Just be honest.
That's why I'm not judging 50.
You know what I mean?
How do you feel about Jay-Z?
In terms of...
I feel like Jay-Z does a lot of noble shit and he doesn't really ask for the praise.
But somehow we kind of hear about the stuff that he does.
Yeah, you like hear it leaked.
Yeah.
It's like conveniently leaked so we know, but then he gets to act cool.
He's brilliant.
Yeah, I mean, if it's all done behind the scenes on purpose, like there's a great architect to it.
Yeah.
I think that's a brilliant way of going about it.
It's making the silent donation to charity or the anonymous donation to charity, but then having people know that it came from you.
Five people who anonymous is, and then they tell five people.
Yeah, I mean, that's the best way to do shit because now you look cool, but you get the credit.
Yeah, okay.
So that may be what he's doing, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna give him the best possible intentions.
I'm gonna start judging people by their best possible intentions if they're being honest.
So I'm gonna say, yo, he's trying to do some good work.
He's trying to make change.
I'm trying to do that because I'm tired of motherfuckers.
I don't even judge that because that's the same as somebody saying, hey, I'm raising the taxes so we can bring in more money to help the poor.
Like their intentions, I'm sure, are that, but you're looking at their intentions like, nah, no, no, this is just some smokescreen.
That's true.
I try to judge them by their best possible intentions.
The best possible intentions are, oh, he wants to help everybody.
No, no, no, that makes perfect sense.
I'm not saying that the intention to raise the taxes is essentially bad, right?
Like, yeah, you want to maybe raise some money so we can help the poor.
That makes perfect sense.
And you want to take money from the rich people to help the poor and not the poor people because they barely have enough money to give anyway.
I get that and it's intention.
I don't think that that's a bad policy, so to say.
I've always, matter of fact, I've always voted usually to do that, to give more of my money to poor people.
Yeah.
Every time I voted, it's been in that interest.
That being said, I totally understand someone who selfishly doesn't want to give anymore.
They're going, I give 50%.
I think that's a lot.
You know what?
Right?
Like, it's not like it's, it's, sorry, it's not like it's voting between zero and 62.
Yeah.
It's somebody going, bro, I get, I get 50.
Yeah.
And I think that's a significant amount.
And if you're taking more than 50, you're being a little egregious.
I got to keep it at 50.
And I think if we looked at the conversation like that, it'd be way more reasonable than the way we look at it now, which is, oh, you don't want to vote for Biden?
You want to vote for Trump?
You hate black people.
It's like, what the fuck is going on?
Like, what's happened right now with Chris Pratt?
Yeah.
They're trying to cancel Star Lord.
Yeah, tell me about this story.
I don't know that much about it.
So they were doing like, who's the best Chris in Hollywood?
And there's like Chris Hemsworth, Chris Pratt, Chris Pine.
There's another one.
Yeah, Chris Pine's.
I don't remember the fourth.
Some random Twitter account has put it out.
Yeah, there's another guy.
The guy who played Captain America 2.
I think he's one of the Chris Evans, right?
And like, that's a great.
That's a good listener.
I'm not going to lie.
It's undeniable Chris Pratt is most talented of all them.
Most talented, but who's the best?
Chris Hemsworth got that body.
Oh, shit.
I know that's a good idea.
Chris Hemsworth more talented.
Chris Hemsworth more talented, but Chris Pratt is unbelievably talented.
And like, he is so fucking quirky and funny.
And he elevates every line in those Avengers movies.
He finds a way to make it funny.
He's great in Jurassic World.
He's exceptional.
But the dude doesn't have the politics of Hollywood.
Correct.
He's a Christian man.
And what people are doing is they are taking the worst possible associations with Christianity and they're applying it to him.
Right.
Right.
And this is what we do oftentimes.
Whenever we disagree with somebody on something, we take the worst possible thing that is attached to their belief system and then we act as if they hold it as well.
I think he goes to a church that is publicly anti-LGBT.
That's all church.
All day.
That's Jesus.
That's what I want.
That's Christianity.
That's Islam.
They're just Judaism.
Maybe they're louder about it, but here's the thing.
We don't know if you subscribe to that.
Maybe you get other things from that.
Exactly.
Do you know what I mean?
Exactly.
That's going to be my going.
I love basketball.
Oh, so you love every single team?
I don't love the Orlando Magic.
I love things.
I love parts of the game and there's certain parts of the game I do not like.
Right?
I can be critical of certain parts, but there's some things that he really gets.
And you know what?
Maybe he does.
Who knows?
But you don't know.
We're assuming the absolute.
Because he doesn't say anything.
That's it.
So if you're not a hate, what's the hate monger?
I think that's somebody who like spreads hate.
Even if you think he hates, but he doesn't talk about it.
You're going to crucify this man because you think he privately has anti-something views.
It's just a wild leap to take to crucify this guy and be like, fuck him for this.
Also, when you could call him.
Like when you see other celebs out there calling them out, like that little Lesbo chick that was in inception.
Motherfucking Juno you talking about?
Juno.
When Juno was talking about stealing roles from straight people, by the way.
Oh, you're right about that shit.
Yeah.
What's up with that?
What's up?
Hardworking, straight women not getting those roles.
That's not very woke of you.
You asleep when they're asking you to be straight and get plugged in high school.
Right?
Anyway, so she was out here like, oh, I can't support because his church is anti-LGBT.
It's like, yo, just call him, ask him how he feels.
Have a conversation with him.
Maybe he's a fucking really cool guy.
Maybe he gets something else out of that church.
Maybe he really values the belief system.
And then maybe you don't even know as much about that church as you think you do.
Maybe they're not as anti.
The reality is you don't fucking know.
And then you just clout chasing as well.
And what was cool?
Positivism or whatever you said.
And what was cool, and this is probably just because Marvel is still popping.
All of his co-stars, Mark Ruffalo, at least, Iron Man publicly on social media were like, no, this is a good dude.
I know this guy.
This is a stand-up dude.
And that I thought.
But they're not gay if they weren't.
A straight white male.
Shit white male supporting you.
No.
Nah, but Chris Pratt, like, I hope you don't hate anybody or whatever the case is, but 90s Al?
I feel you, though.
It just drives me crazy with this shit, man.
Because I'm literally watching Avengers.
Like, we were just going back and just watching it recently.
So, like, here the story come out.
It's cool that all the other Marvel people came out to support him, but that actually makes it a bigger deal.
Like, this story would have died in a day if nobody posted about it.
But now every other character in Endgame is posting a picture with him in Unity.
He's a sweet guy.
He's a great Christian man.
He actually lives up to his values, this, that, the other.
It's like, y'all just made this international.
It's so nice to see, finally, though, Hollywood supporting their homie, even if it brings you negative feedback as opposed to just staying quiet and not saying shit or dogpiling.
Well, that seems like the move from Hollywood.
Yeah.
I mean, they need him for the Gardens of the Galaxy.
It's selfish, bro.
Talk.
Like, it could be a little.
Robert Downey don't need him.
Robert Downey don't need to be.
The fact that Robert, yeah, but he tried to do Doolittle or whatever that movie was.
That shit flopped.
He might be coming back to the Marvel.
You might have to use that time stone, bro.
I can't believe that was your first movie after fucking Iron Man.
He really thought that was going to slap.
What the fuck are you thinking, bro?
I think he was going for kids.
I think he was like, if I can get a kids franchise, I could get that Pirates of the Caribbean money.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
He already did it.
You got Avengers money.
You're so good on money.
Doug, it's never enough, bro.
You know it's never enough to these motherfuckers.
Did any of y'all see that?
The Doolittle shit?
Hell no.
Anybody watching that goddamn movie?
I see that shit, bro.
Is it the same doolittle like the Eddie Murphy Doolittle?
Nah, it's different.
Oh, okay.
Because Eddie Murphy Doolittle slap.
Hey, Robert Downey ain't doing shit outside of Avengers.
Can we be honest, actually?
He did Sherlock Devil.
He was kind of lit in Sherlock, bro.
I'm not going to lie.
He was kind of lit in Sherlock.
But the last Sherlock flopped.
I only saw one.
Bill Burr said at Will.
I remember Bill Burrows in his podcast.
He goes, that movie tastes like a, was like eating a fat free cookie.
Where you're like, everything about this should be good.
Robert Downey Jr., Rachel McAdams, Sherlock Holmes, but it just sucks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Also, the thing with Chris Brad is annoying is I don't think the church did anything anti-gay.
Like it's like a super, it's like a trendy like LA church.
What is it?
They did their church.
Their first service was in One Oak.
Like this is the kind of church.
It's like an LA.
What's the name of it?
It's called Zoe, like Zoe Church or something.
It's really hard to get in.
You probably couldn't get it right.
This church is hard to get in, bro.
You got to get lazy like two weeks ahead of time.
Yo, that's why people go to Scientology out there, bro.
I want you to be a little more accepted.
It's like a food court.
It's a religious food court.
Scientology, you've got to wholesome metal.
That's what the stress is.
Give a little money.
Yeah, that shit, that test where you hold the things that they got now.
Yo, how crazy is it?
This is crazy.
That Scientology pops up in Los Angeles.
What you stressed about?
It's an 80 degrees every single day.
Hey, you know what?
What you stressing?
Why is actually brilliant because they talk about past trauma and who got more past trauma than an actor?
Ooh.
It's a whole city of molesteds.
It really is.
The amount of molestation per capita is probably super hard.
Can we talk about molesters' roles in making great movies?
No.
No, we can't.
Yes, we can.
Yes, we can.
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Nah, that is a fucked up thing.
Remember, we were talking to Roy Jones Jr. about how fucked up his dad was as a trainer?
Yeah.
And like him, would he be able to be that great without him?
Yeah.
And I think Roy gave pushback.
Yeah, he was just like, nah, I'd be great.
Like, he said, we tried to like create a nuance.
And we're like, you know, you think maybe your dad being so hardy was good for you in your boxing career?
He's like, no.
No, it wasn't.
Nah, it was horrible.
We have a horrible relationship because of it, man.
I mean, like, at the end of the day.
It's so funny to watch that happen.
At the end of the day, it's all just punching.
And I'm just good at punching.
He didn't need to beat the shit out of me.
And we're like, all right, the air really went on that whole convo real quick.
No, you know, he said, he said this.
He's like, listen, Joe Jackson was just as hard on Tito.
That didn't make him good.
I thought that was a fun ass point.
No, that's how you know he's thought about this.
Yeah, dude.
Because he's like, it's not my dad that made me great.
Yeah, 100%.
I made me great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he went right to that Jackson family.
He was ready for that shit.
He thought about it himself, yo.
That's good for Roy, man.
Roy was just on Rogan recently.
Yo, go check that out, man.
He's a fucking Roy's a man.
Anyway, so I'm glad we got some of that out.
We like hit a bunch of topics right there, but it just really bothered me, man.
Like, it's just, I don't know.
The other thing that they're going after him for is that he didn't endorse Biden.
Who gives a fuck?
That's what I'm saying.
Now they're going through all of his shit.
They're like, oh, he follows the Hodge twins, like those two twin black Trump supporter kids.
And they're like, oh, so he must be pretty ass eyes in them kids, bro.
The Evil Side of Parents00:03:56
They're so cute.
They're like some pretty ass blue eyes.
These two black twins with blue eyes.
Hey, maybe he's taking a little Zoom call breaks himself.
They're looking at his shit.
They're finding all these little things where they're like, they're basically queuing on him to be like a redneck, like racist.
How do you hate QAnon and they do the same shit?
No, they're calling him a redneck racist.
Go look at what they said about Zoe Saladana for supporting him.
What?
They calling her a coon.
They calling her all sorts of racist shit for supporting him.
For supporting Chris Pratt?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah, it's so stupid.
It's like all these people are so stupid.
It's like they love Guardians of the Galaxy.
Then the director gets clipped for having a bunch of like pedo tweets.
You remember that guy, James Gunn?
Exactly.
Then they get his ass back because he went over to DC and killed it.
DC, that's how you know DC's struggling.
They're like, we'll take the pedophile.
We got good movies.
Like, what happens, bro?
We need guardians.
Save me.
We need somebody to market to children for once.
Somebody who cares about our target demo.
Get this guy in here, please.
Please, they're all watching these fucking Marvel movies.
This guy gets these kids.
Bro, it's like the MLS.
They just take any washed up all-star.
Like, yeah, he was good 20 years ago.
We'll take him.
Fuck it, dude.
We ain't rooing away.
Yeah, that's true.
Because if Ronaldo got a rape case, bro, out there in Europe.
Bro, the LA Galaxy would say, hey, score, hey, bored.
Oh, man.
So, yeah, man.
It just drives me crazy with that shit.
You got to let people live.
But I also understand things get super polarized during election season and you get caught in that vacuum where you're like, it's good versus evil, right?
And you really do think the other side is evil.
And the more you support your side, the more evil the other side seems.
Right.
And I mean this both ways.
Like, if you're a Trump supporter, you're looking at the Democrats.
You're like, yo, they're truly evil.
Like, not they're eating babies or whatever, but they're trying to destroy democracy.
You might really look at it that way.
You might start looking into socialism and seeing how countries have failed, you know, when they have socialist governments.
Like, they just completely overlook Europe when they do that.
They're like, look at Venezuela.
And we're like, yeah, but look at London.
Paris ain't mad.
But it's like, and again, this is not me like capping hard for socialism, but I understand what starts to go through your head when you're locked in that little bubble.
Yeah.
And you're going, man, this is a battle of good versus evil.
It's not.
Both sides can have some interesting viewpoints.
Both sides can have some positives that we both want to benefit from.
You know, we were talking about this in one of the pieces, but like you could say, you could hate communism all you want, right?
You could think communism the worst thing in the world.
Yeah.
But you got no problem paying very little for your clothes and phones because they're made in communist countries.
Yep.
100%.
Imagine they were making your phones and clothes in capitalist countries.
You'd be spending a lot more than that.
You think the iPhone is expensive now?
Shit.
Imagine paying union prices for that iPhone.
Good morning.
Gracias.
So you are killing it off of communism.
100%.
Right?
So everybody's part of this whole thing.
All we want is to be removed from it.
We don't want to see how the sausage is made.
That's it.
That's the whole thing.
Let's be removed from the atrocity so we can benefit and not think about it.
And then I think what we're just saying is like, yo, if we could be honest with ourselves, bro, everybody could accept what was going on.
Like, here's an honest moment I had the other day, right?
Literally, I'm thinking about, you know, like, obviously with Corona and everything, I got old parents, you know?
I don't want them to die.
I also don't want to stop seeing my parents.
Right.
So I asked my parents if they're going out at all.
And then they say, yeah, you know, we love taking walks.
We love going out.
We love going out to eat.
And I said, thank God.
Because I don't want to be responsible for giving my parents Corona and killing them.
But if I am, at least I could be like, well, they probably got it from going out.
Plausible deniability.
Plausible deniability.
Now, it sounds fucked up.
That sounds fucked up.
But imagine you the one that you know for a fact because they were locked in quarantine complete.
Yeah.
And they got it.
You know they got it from you.
Hanging vs Plausible Deniability00:02:40
You would feel horrible.
They do that with firing squads.
They line up 10 people.
Only one person's got a bullet.
And then they all pull tree at the same time.
I don't know who killed them.
It wasn't me.
Nobody knows.
Yeah.
But I shot up like Hamilton did.
I shot right up in the air, just like Hamilton.
And then the guy lived.
And it's like, oh, ooh.
Y'all gave me the bullet, though.
Trying to make me a murderer.
I would rather get shot the first time by the fire.
Can you imagine?
You turning around like, come on, yo.
Oh, we got to reload.
And that old ass musket that you got to fucking do this shit with.
I think you get left free if you survive execution.
So you can just bounce from that shit.
I'm pretty sure.
Nah.
You think you get let free?
I'm pretty sure.
The punishment is death.
Not the punishment is one time.
No, that was the thing for hanging, though.
They said the punishment's hanging.
And then one motherfucker survived the hanging, like the rope broke or some shit.
And then they're like, nah, the punishment was hanging.
And then he went back to court.
They were like, all right.
Well, but now the punishment is death.
Death by firing squad.
Death by injection.
Death by legal injection.
Death by electric chair.
Yeah.
Electric chair is crazy.
That's wild, yo.
Wild.
Why you got to sit down?
Like, what's that all about?
It's so performative.
Yeah, but you're performative.
Convulsing and shit like that.
Put them on the ground.
Lay them on the ground.
And then they're going to be doing a Harlem shake on the ground.
Yeah.
But the shit still got to stay attached to them and stuff.
But it's better than the whole chair moving around.
Like, why is it a chair?
I never understood the chair thing.
The chair is weird.
They strapped in, though.
The legs are strapped.
The arms are going to be.
Strap them on a board.
Shocking somebody to death is wild.
It's just wild.
Hey, let's electrocute you to death.
I think it's better than a drug.
But a chair is so weird.
What would you want them to do?
Why are we even putting them in any sort of like strapped in so they can't like shake out of it?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I think you should just have the whole cell taking the whole cell on.
What do you mean the whole cell on?
Make the cell electric.
And then just after he finishes the dinner, boob.
You got to wire.
Microwave.
It's a microwave, dog.
It's a microwave.
But that's economics.
You just get one chair that you got to wire up as opposed to the whole fucking cell.
Nah, they should just put water on the whole ground.
I don't need to like throw the toaster in there.
That's fast fire.
I like that.
That's how they should do that.
Water on the whole ground.
I like that.
Yeah, make it look like an usher music video.
Yeah, throw a toaster in there.
You ain't won.
You ready to start dancing?
Yeah, yeah.
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