Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh dissect the #MeToo movement, debating Chris DeLia's defense against underage allegations and Jeff Ross's molestation claims while questioning if 18-year-olds possess the maturity to handle celebrity DMs. They mock Sean King's historical inaccuracies regarding Jesus's ethnicity, critique Columbus statues originally meant for Italian immigrants, and analyze Pablo Escobar's family suing restaurants for likeness rights. The conversation shifts to conspiracy theories about police ignoring fireworks to create chaos, compares Derek Chauvin to Joe Budden, and exposes John Kapoor's fentanyl incentives, ultimately arguing that white-collar crimes like opioid settlements lack the severe consequences seen in street crime or cancel culture. [Automatically generated summary]
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Toxic Fanbase and Underage Scandals00:14:43
You know how great it is to do a show with two fucking virgins that don't have to worry about you guys ever getting me to good money That's the only way Indians don't rape if they just don't fuck it.
I just get married I'm the exception that proves the rule exactly Al's the only one I gotta worry about but he's not on camera take that industry We planned it hey, you know what we're ready for the mob hey hey New York is in the building New York is in the building We're taking the comedy scene back, yo.
If y'all don't know what we're talking about, man, everybody's and why?
Not yet.
We got patience, unlike you fucking animals.
No, but for real, just to fill everybody up, obviously, you know.
You know, when you're the chosen one, they just be coming out when you don't want to.
Not for this.
So, obviously, you know, the focus on America for the last, you know, at least a month has been on Black Lives Matter and white women couldn't stand not being the center of fucking tension for 30 days.
So they had to find a way to make it about them.
So the Me Too resurgence is back.
Son, this kid is in the second wave of Corona.
Bro, I guys called it Me Too 2.
This shit is me, TWO.
Let's start that hashtag.
This shit is more like me, me, me.
Bro, so they're out there.
They're coming.
Do you know what I'm saying?
It started with...
We spoke a little bit about this on the Patreon.
It started with Chris Dahlia.
A lot of smoke there.
A lot of smoke there.
The tricky thing with Dahlia is that like all this, all this shit came out.
The crazy shit came out was like him allegedly.
I got throw allegedly.
And I contacted Chris because I was like, yo, you got to tell me what the fuck deal is because some of this shit is weird.
And it was underage girls, right?
Yes.
Allegedly he was contacting underage girls.
And I contacted him.
I was like, bro, what is this thing?
Why are you commenting on some girl's picture where she posts some people in a fucking school bus?
Pretending it's hilarious.
Yeah.
And then he was like, he defends me as a comedian.
So then he said, that girl told me she's 24.
I have screenshots and everything.
I'm organizing everything and I'm going to release it.
And there's going to be articles coming out.
I'm like, all right.
Tricky thing with.
And then there's another one where there was like an email exchange where a girl said she was 17.
And then like a month later, she hits him back and he's like, come over and make out.
And I asked him about it.
And he didn't really give me any answer about that one.
So I don't know.
And I was like, bro, is there some more context here?
Like, what's going on?
Did he say anything?
I think he's holding all his cars until he can put together a full, like a full rebuttal and put everything all together on his podcast.
I said, you better hurry up, bro.
Because every day it just seems worse.
Son.
Yeah.
But so here's the tricky thing.
You guys put together an entire crowd work special in a week.
DeLeah can't defend himself as not a rapist in a week.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's just screenshots, y'all.
Ain't no fucking music.
Ain't no intro.
You got to cheat.
Yo, but the tricky thing with him is that, like, I don't think he would deny he's a wild like womanizer.
Yeah.
So the tricky thing is he's got to basically go, all right, I'm a piece of shit to women, but I didn't fuck underage women.
I think that's all you got to do, to be honest with you.
I think most of us would be like, yeah, okay.
At least y'all fuck underage women.
Yes, but it's a tricky thing because it's who's going to come back and like support that.
I mean, that was his apology, wasn't it?
AMZ was, look, I have done some foul shit to women essentially, but this isn't true.
None of them were underage.
I will do better.
I will continue to do better is always funny.
Like, when did you start?
You know what I mean?
I will continue to do better.
I don't want you continuing to do better.
Well, in fairness to him, I haven't seen really a lot of stuff come out post like 2017, 2018.
It seems like a lot of the accusations were from prior to that time.
Right.
So maybe he cleaned up a little, like, when his lifestyle gets more serious.
I don't know.
Maybe.
Hopefully, that's my hope.
I don't know if that's the case.
Yeah, I also just want to see how are you, because the way he's texting these girls, this is the thing.
There's no concrete proof that I've seen that he knows they're 16 and doesn't give a fuck, which is tricky.
But the way he's texting them, it's like you're talking to a kid almost.
So that's the thing.
It should be illegal to share how we talk to women.
Hey, man.
That's the scariest shit, potentially.
Son, it is.
It is heartbreaking, bro.
Like, they released my boy Shaub's text, bro, to girls, and I'm reading them shits.
And I'm like, man, this is how I sound.
Hey.
Nah, but it's, yo, you sound so corny.
Like, if I look back at any DMs, there's no way to sound cool in a DM.
I think only Trey songs did that shit.
I have read every conversation.
Every time I read a conversation with a girl I was even like talking to, I'm like, what the fuck?
Who is this guy?
Yeah, that's why you got to talk in emojis.
If you're talking in emojis, then it's like it could be.
And then people start clowning your emoji choices.
That's how specific people are with how to talk to women.
It's like you hear literally people like, look at these corny ass emojis.
I thought sunglasses is good.
I thought that's a good emoji, sunglasses.
Right?
Honestly, that was my go-to.
If I didn't have a response when I was back in the day, DM Girl, sunglass emoji.
What does that mean?
Bitch, I don't know.
I just had nothing to say.
You didn't know I had anything to say?
That's why in person shit is always so much more difficult because you can't just go, well, so what are we?
Sunny outside, ain't it?
Like, how was your date?
I don't know.
He kept on putting on his sunglasses the whole time.
It's non-stop.
So, yeah, man, it's a wild world out there.
Obviously, everybody's been asking us what we think.
Look, if you have like hundreds and hundreds of girls coming out saying what a piece of shit you are, right?
Yeah.
To them, probably a piece of shit to women, right?
That being said, that's very different than being a pedophile.
Yeah, nobody looking at Chris DeLia thinking he's a nice guy to women.
Right.
Maybe, I don't know.
I never really judged prior.
You know what I mean?
I would never, I never really, you never gave me anything.
You know, he's a stereotype of a good-looking white dude who's funny.
You could fuck a lot of girls and not be a piece of shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I'm saying people would judge him like that.
Sure.
Maybe it wasn't, it wouldn't be surprising.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
And there could be people listening to this right now that have no fucking clue who Chris DeLeah is.
And that's right.
But so yeah.
So the thing was like they're two very different things.
And that is something that we need to get to the bottom of.
Because it's not illegal to be a piece of shit to women.
It's illegal to fuck underage women.
Yes.
And you go to jail and you get beat up, frankly.
As you should.
As you should for fucking underage women.
If you're being shitty to women, that's really on your fan base.
Yeah.
If your fan base don't tolerate that shit, then they go, fuck this guy.
I'm out of here.
If they do, then they go, okay, it is what it is.
I'm sure there are a lot of rock stars that were shitty to fucking women.
People are like, all right, we're cool with that.
And then maybe there were some that were shitty women that weren't cool.
But that's really up to your fan base to decide.
And then up to your peers if they want to associate.
I'm pretty sure the fan base don't really know how he deals with.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, why would anybody know?
Never got that intention, yeah.
No, because you said, like, it's up to the fan base to cancel him if he's like shitty.
Once you know, oh, now you're talking about like that's that's the decision, yeah.
But, um, but yeah, man, I, you know, I don't, I just want to say Chris pedophilia.
I just wanted to say that I was just babbling on, trying to find a way to slide it in.
I couldn't do it, you know what I mean?
Yeah, and then Jeff Ross got in some me too heat.
You know, the Rose Molester just molester in general, the Rose Molester general who he claims is crazy, right?
Getting pretty hot for the Romaster right now, huh?
But that is kind of wild.
Like, some chick who he claims is crazy is coming for him, and she got like receipts.
But the receipts are like, look, here's a picture where he was wearing his hat, and now I have the hat.
I watched the video that she put out, or at least a snippet of it.
I'm not saying she's wrong.
You be editing this shit on iMovie and like putting a title screen.
And it's just like, it's just an odd look.
Can I be honest with you, bro?
And she knows who fucking Jason Stein is or whatever his name is.
Can I be honest with you, bro?
This is a story about molestation, right?
But it's a story about molestation.
And it's just like, I've watched a lot of Law and Order SVU.
It's like, you need to cut the fat.
This shit is fucking 20 minutes long going through pictures and that kind of stuff.
And it's just like, yo, come on, Shorty.
Come on.
Is there anything you learn from comedy?
You're in these comedy clubs all the time.
You're never like, this is a long setup.
She's talking about how much she loves comedy from the age of 15 on.
Oh, my God.
You taking this guy's head off.
Oh, my God.
So Jeff came out.
I was trying to...
What are you waiting for in the middle of the video?
When Jeff came out and said she's crazy, she's going to sue mental health and he's going to sue her back.
But that wasn't the best response to me too.
Arkash, what was the best response to a meetup?
I've been waiting for someone to do this one.
Which phase on law?
Son, if this, because this is the reality.
If they come for you, I'm wondering, right?
And that was what I was wondering with Chris, and that's why I texted Chris.
I was like, motherfucker, why aren't you swinging?
This is your life.
Yeah.
Like, this is your life right now.
Legit your life.
Legit your life.
If you go to jail for this, your life is over.
You want to be the molester in jail?
The pretty boy molester?
Shit.
Fuck.
Shit.
It's over, yeah.
But you're going to be taking some pictures with your shirt on.
Yeah.
It's going to be a lot of shirt off fixed in jail.
So, so there's this girl.
Oh, yeah.
So that's what I'm saying.
When it comes to this, kind of like MeToo shit, I'm like, where the fuck are the haymakers?
If somebody's coming for your life, haymakers on everybody.
It's a let's go.
And low-key, if you're not throwing haymakers, it looks a little weird.
To me, just because of the way I would act, if I was falsely accused of something, the way I would act, I'm going over the top, Mark.
I'm fighting for my fucking life, like you said.
That's it.
I'm in a corner, boxed in.
Yeah.
You know?
So this is how you throw some haymakers.
This chick, I'm not going to say her name, accuses, because she might be right.
Who knows?
But she accuses Phase On Love.
She says someone in Phase On Love's Entourage basically just like tried to essentially try to rape her after she got off stage, like started dragging her by her hair.
She's six months pregnant.
She fights him off.
And then she says it was at a certain improv.
And then Phase On Love's response is, I never performed at that improv.
And then she's like, correction.
Was at the Ontario improv.
And then Fazon Love's responses in another screenshot where he basically's just like, You're just going to name every improv.
I didn't perform there either.
He goes, He goes, Sorry, Bray Improv, never performed there.
She goes, Then she goes, Sorry, Ontario.
I confused the two.
First of all, why is she apologizing to the guy who's part of the crew who tried to rape her?
And then he goes, Should we go through all the improvs until you find what I've performed at?
Kick rocks, bitch.
And then he goes, Hashtag free Bill Cosby.
A little bit far.
I don't know.
I don't know.
If you're trying to say you're not a rapist, I don't know if you hashtag like the most famous comedian rapist.
Mars, yo.
Son, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But how much do you not think he raped?
He's like, You know what?
While I'm at it, free Bill Cosby.
Real talk.
I did nothing and Ted Bundy's innocent.
Yeah.
Like, huh?
What the fuck is going on over here, man?
But that's the guy that's acting like you got nothing on me, yo.
That's yo, you call the girl that accuses you of me too a bitch?
You know you're innocent.
You know you're innocent because during me too, you can't be sexist because they'll use that against you.
You got to be so clean that you're like, fuck this bitch.
You're accusing me of some shit I did on my squad of some shit.
He probably didn't even text his squad to be like, you're trying to rape this pregnant girl.
I don't even think he sent the text out.
He said an initial text response, like, my manager was a woman at the time or whatever.
So like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Real talk, why bring his name into it?
Talk to the man who's part of it.
Yeah.
Bring that guy's name into it.
He's not famous enough.
Call the cops about it.
No, I'm just saying, you know why a lot of, well, some women are making these accusations.
So you're saying she's doing it for clout.
Yes.
Look, I'm not saying it's possible.
Here's a tricky shit with me too.
But believe all women.
Say what?
Believe all women.
Man, Al, shut up.
You only believe women when they said they're pregnant, bro.
That's just a legend.
That ain't nothing but a legend.
You just got to throw that shit in there.
So, hey, this bitch isn't all lies.
Believe on what it is.
Believe on what I'm saying.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Here's a tricky shit about me too, right?
Is it like, and low-key, it was that Epstein shit that put me on to it.
It's like, there are so many women that have literally just been ignored that have legitimate fucking rape cases against them, ignored by the police, ignored by FBI, ignored by all these things.
So I 100% get the second people are willing to listen to your stories that every woman and her mother and her sister come out with every one of their shitty situations.
Because, yo, I'm not bullshitting.
And if you talk to your girl, if you guys talk to your girls, if you talk to your girl, every one of them has a shady story with a dude.
Yeah.
Every single girl has a very shady story with a dude.
Shady Stories and Sexual Harassment00:15:26
It might not be rape, but it might be like, yo, I thought I was going to get raped.
So in these, and then they don't feel the courage to come out because there's been so many times that they've been accused of doing it.
Or sorry, that they tried to come out and they've been squashed.
You know that universities have a whole system set up where they take care of it within the university so it doesn't get to the police.
Why y'all think that they do that?
So the university looks safer.
So the university don't look like a fucking rape haven.
You want to talk about Epstein's Island?
Yeah.
University of Florida.
You ain't even go to the island to catch rapes.
So I completely empathize and understand with any woman who sees women being listened to and goes, matter of fact, I got a story.
I got a fucking story to tell.
Let's go.
I completely empathize and I would listen to it in a fucking heartbeat.
I think that there are also unfortunately situations, right?
Where sports isn't happening.
We got to listen to all these stories.
There are situations where there are people that are, they have other motives.
Yes.
Is that fair to say?
Yes.
And because they have, just like there are charities which aren't giving money to the right to the cause and actually siphoning off money for themselves, right?
Yeah.
Even charities for someone like George Floyd and their family.
There are charities that are not giving all that money to them.
And if that exists in a situation like that, it definitely exists in a situation like this.
And the reason why we become so inflamed, men, we become so inflamed when we hear those stories is because we, at least in this room, are like, well, I'm not raping nobody.
And if these girls could just claim rape on an innocent person and then it washes their whole career away, I got to push back against that because that's the only thing that could protect me, someone who doesn't rape.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
And I, so it's like, so I think a lot of women, when they hear this shit, they're like, why aren't guys willing to hear these stories?
Why aren't that?
Why aren't they?
We are.
But we also get scared when a simple claim could be taken as gospel when it's not true.
And even if it isn't true, even if it ends up not being true, you still get completely washed.
Yeah.
Guilty until proven innocent is tough if you can be guilty just off an accusation.
Like if you're if you're one of the potential people that would be guilty just off like the accusation, that's scary.
Son, there's a yeah, we have to like take a look at the timing of these accusations, like the time of month, because they have a way of syncing up.
Are you trying to say it's period behavior?
They've been stepping on my fucking foot.
Are you trying to say that these girls are just me too in on their period, Al?
Edit point.
Al, what are you saying?
Are you saying rape isn't real?
You just on your period.
That's the hell I'm just saying.
I'm further at it.
Just keep saying this.
That's further than phase on love, bro.
Phase on love just called her a bitch.
You're like, you bleeding.
It's that time with me too.
So look, look, I understand.
I understand the concern.
And I also understand why girls are talking.
I think it's important that guys actually understand why girls jumping on it.
Like, like the initial reaction, I'm sure, like most people, and was definitely that way for me.
He was like, oh, now y'all want to talk now?
Yeah, because they feel safer in numbers.
Right?
It's like you're, all these girls that were calling out Chris that were of legal age, they probably didn't feel safe just going, this guy's a douchebag when it was just by themselves because then they look like some like, I don't know, girl that got ghosted and got upset because of it.
Right.
But then when there's a bunch of other girls going, this is shitty, they're like, oh, I had the same experience.
Yeah, maybe they have this fear that's like, this guy's so powerful, nobody's going to listen to me.
And then we kind of respond in our own fear, which is like, yo, one accusation can ruin everything.
Like, true or not.
So we're just scared responding back.
And then, and then people, and I want to have this conversation.
Then people go into this thing, which is really interesting.
It's this power dynamic shit.
Like, we always talk about like every correction is an overcorrection, right?
Right.
This is the thing I hate is when people start going, this person had power over them.
Okay, what kind of power?
Like physical power?
No, they were a celebrity and that person admired them.
And because they admired them, they were put in a power position over them.
And that's why it's considered sexual assault or sexual misconduct.
Yeah.
We're not talking about underage girls.
We're talking about girls that are co-writing.
That's bullshit.
And I really think Louis kind of started this when he gave his apology.
He goes, these women admired me and I took advantage of that.
No, I had heard that line of thinking before.
Really?
Yeah, you were taking advantage of a power dynamic, which is just like underage, illegal.
That guy belongs in the jail.
If you are 25 and he's 28 and he's famous and he sleeps with you and it's a power dynamic, what hot girl doesn't have a power dynamic then?
That's the conversation we should have, right?
Is that power dynamics exists within sex, right?
And sex is a fucking murky, muddy topic and it's really difficult to talk about.
And we are not on this podcast going to be the ones who go, this is how you have sex.
These are the rules.
Sex is primal and we're in a civilized society and those two don't mesh well.
That's a great way of, and what we're trying to do, that's a great way of putting it.
And what we're trying to do is we recognize how primal it is and we're trying to go, okay, here is the course of action that makes sense.
Here's a civilized way to have sex.
And we're literally doing it because we care about women.
Yeah.
We're like, how can we make sex the safest thing for women?
And every once in a while we go too far.
We're like, we're just going to ask you every two minutes if it's okay.
Yeah.
Do you still consent?
Do you still consent?
And then women start going, man, just fuck me.
Yeah.
Do you know what I'm saying?
But at first, a woman's like, well, actually, I really like that.
That's nice.
So we overcorrect and then we come back, et cetera.
The power dynamic thing in sex is very interesting for so many reasons.
And we're having this discussion yesterday.
There are so many different power exchanges that exist within sex.
You know, Mark brought up a good point yesterday.
He goes, the tricky thing about power dynamics is like, you can't turn your power off.
So if you are a person that is famous, by that rule, you can't fuck anybody that likes you.
Yeah, you have to fuck someone who's equally famous.
Check it.
Even if they're equally famous, what if they admire you?
Yeah.
Sorry, I can't fuck.
I can only fuck people that don't admire me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's an odd thing.
Like Louie literally said in his stupid apology, he goes, You know, these women admired me and I took advantage of that.
Motherfucker, are you telling women they should fuck people they don't admire?
That's only men do that.
It's the reason we want to accomplish things is because you're not going to physically want to fuck most men.
So we try to do things that are worth you admiring in some way.
Yo, I like this guy's kind.
I like this guy's art.
I like this guy's apartment even.
I admire this guy's apartment.
Yes.
That's why we work hard.
That's like evolution.
What about the second part of his apology where he goes that he took advantage of their admiration?
How is that taking advantage of admiration?
And is that wrong?
If it's a boss and an employee and the employee's worried she's going to lose her job, I can understand that's a power dynamic.
Absolutely.
That's also sexual harassment.
That's a law.
That's a great point you're making, right?
If it's a boss and someone they work and works under them, right?
Yeah.
You want to know if it was really equal society?
If it was truly equal society and we were decent individuals, that boss should be able to hit on the person that he works with.
And I'll tell you why.
Interesting.
Why is that?
Because if we respected when women were like, I'm not interested and didn't hold it against them and didn't have this fucking ego thing where now we want to punish them for not willing.
It's like when the guy hits on a girl on the street and then they walk away and we'll fuck you then bitch.
If we didn't have well fuck you then bitch in the office, women wouldn't be afraid to say no.
And then they could work together harmoniously.
To me, I think 90% of people meet at where they work.
Right.
But to me, if you work with someone and you find them beautiful and then you start to like admire their work ethic and you think they're really intelligent and smart, that's a way deeper connection than some bitch you met at the fucking bar that got a mini skirt on that you're like, hey, I'd like to meet you or you want to have a drink at my table.
Yeah.
Like, now, granted, I like the rules that we have in place in the workplace because I don't think that men or women have the, I don't know, like the lack of like emotional reaction to being rejected.
Yeah.
Right.
So I want to protect women in that environment.
Just don't hit on them.
But if we were truly equal and treated each other with true decency, we would be able to hit on the people we work with and accept rejection.
So with the rules of sex.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
So basically, I think the rules of sex would be a lot clearer if everybody was okay with rejection.
But since we're not and we're human beings and everybody takes that personally, that's where the power dynamic becomes scary.
So if somebody that works underneath somebody's like, no, I don't want to have sex with you, then that person that's a boss is like, fuck you.
You reject me, stupid bitch.
You'll never do anything in this business.
I'm going to hold you down in this.
I can't believe you.
That bruised my ego.
But if the person, if we're all cool with rejection, it's you, would you like to go out?
No.
Okay.
Would you like to go out?
No?
Okay.
Still not going to say yes.
Right.
Because then the opposite is that you have to say yes.
And then this is where you get girls that do stuff.
And they go, I did it, but I didn't want to.
And then the average person goes, well, why'd you do something you didn't want to?
And then they're like, well, I thought I was going to get fired.
I thought I'd never have a career.
She's wrapped up in this power dynamic that from the outside, we observe and we're like, that's fucking.
And I get why we're trying to protect for that.
Because if that's your daughter, you want to protect her?
You don't want her, your boss, hitting on your daughter.
I don't even want my daughter to have a boss.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, Loki, like, I don't want an old guy telling my girl what to do.
I think we even talked about this on this podcast one second.
She had a male boss.
And I was like, what's going on with that?
Like, you're just going to tell her to write emails all day?
Hey, right?
You know what I'm saying?
It's just weird.
Yo, that's actually true.
I was like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
My girl's only had female bosses and one gay dude.
And I loved that gay dude.
That's the guy, yo.
I love this guy.
But how fucked up is that?
You know what I mean?
Like, he's asking her to order lunch for him and shit.
And she's doing it.
I asked for a cup of water.
This bitch is like, get yourself a cup of water.
What the fuck is going on, bro?
Like, what's happening?
You would not do well at church, bro.
Wait, wait, wait, why?
The priest starts talking.
You're like, yo, chill, chill, chill, chill.
Stop trying to get on the knees, yo.
What the fuck is the other?
No, you don't need communion.
Yo, you don't need that.
Don't put it in their mouth, yo.
Put your tongue back in your fucking head.
Real talk, dog.
Oh, shit.
Anyway, so back to what we were saying.
Oh, yeah.
So that power dynamic and work, fucked up.
Yes.
Right?
Completely understood, et cetera.
But then when you take that same thing that we're trying to protect from and then you bring it into the world, right?
Where a guy just happens to be famous and a girl is attracted and admires that guy for being famous.
And you go, hey, he can't have sex with that girl because he has this like, there's this imbalance of power there.
What people need to realize is that like people, people, men and women leverage their power.
A beautiful woman is completely aware of her power and leans into that power.
She gets pulled over.
You can have any of our girlfriends will probably be like, hey, you get pulled over.
Maybe there's like a wink or a smile.
Hey, you want to pull up to a club and you don't want to wait online?
You walk up to the door.
Hey, I'm beautiful.
Maybe I'm beautiful enough to just get in and cut the line.
Do you know what I mean?
And we're not telling women you shouldn't do that.
Walk right in the club.
That's why we're there.
Yeah.
We don't want you waiting online with us.
A power dynamic.
I see a girl waiting online for the club.
I'm like, is this girl ugly?
And I can't say, wait online for the club.
That's crazy.
A power dynamic only exists is you is if you saying no, I can affect your life.
Like at a job, I can affect your life.
If I'm a teacher, I can affect your grade, your life.
If I'm famous and I say no, bitch, leave.
Like, what am I, what impact do I have after this?
I think the only thing I can think about in this case, some of the women or girls asked him if they can, if he can mentor them or whatever.
They were interested in becoming comics.
No.
But no, but I'm just saying.
So that's where the power dynamic would be because they're like, oh, well, if I don't agree to making out of whatever he requested, then he won't train me to become a comic.
Yeah, fine.
No, but I'm just saying that's where in this case.
Training is like, no, I understand, but training is like, it's not like a tangible thing that leads a job.
There is a salary that is set.
Your promotions can be in line.
Like it's a set path.
You are in this job.
Finding another job is hard.
If a guy doesn't want to mentor you, okay.
Go big brothers, big sisters.
There's plenty of mentors out there.
I understand what he's, but like what he's saying is that in that dynamic, maybe you could take advantage of that relationship.
I don't believe that that's the case.
And I also think that we need to be like completely aware.
And this is outside of that situation, just any situation.
It's really funny because I disagree on Whitney's.
Whitney had a response, and I disagree with one part of it where she goes, like, a fan should be able to DM.
What is it?
A fan should be able to DM a celebrity without.
I think that was teenage girls should be able to DM and guys shouldn't respond.
I don't think it's that.
I'll pull up the exact tweet.
That way we can go.
No, I think it's fans.
If it's teenage girls.
She was referring to underage girls.
She says in the tweet, okay, pulling it up.
Girls should be able to be a fan of a comedian they admire without becoming a sexual target.
I disagree.
You know what I'm saying?
I disagree.
No, no, no.
First of all, 100%.
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
If you're a fan, absolutely.
And listen, I'm saying this as someone who is in a faithful relationship and has a girlfriend.
I have nothing to gain from this.
I plan on marrying my girl and having kids with her.
So all you bitches out of luck.
Do you know what I'm saying?
That being said, it's really interesting when we saw these.
I am also faithful.
So all you bitches are very lucky.
Horrible ass dick.
Shit is committed.
The suffering starts up, my girls.
So the thing that came out is this: there's this idea, right?
I agree with that statement in that way, of course.
That being said, it doesn't necessarily absolve you from it, right?
So a lot of these girls are like they DM'd, and this is not just about Chris.
This is just other situations, right?
Like people DMing this, that kind of stuff.
Girls complaining about DMs, right?
Yeah.
What is very interesting is like what I took that as a criticism of is a girl DMing a guy, going, oh my God, you're so funny, or oh my God, you were great tonight, et cetera.
And then going, a girl should basically, a girl should be able to do that and it not be interpreted as anything besides just you were congratulating you on your show.
Okay.
Right?
I agree.
Yeah.
My question to you, Akash, is, would your girl agree that was the intention of that DM?
Oh, I was waiting to see how you got out of this one and you did it.
You done did it.
Power Dynamics in Digital Dating00:09:14
I would ask any girl who says, we should just be able to DM and then nobody should think anything of it.
I would ask any girl who says that, what would you say if a girl DM your man?
What would you think that did?
I think that people are abundantly aware of what DMs are.
Okay.
And there's a song, It Go Down in a DM.
Yeah.
Right?
We know what the fuck a DM is about and we know there are different ways.
Some girls just come straight out, foot pics, titty picks, whatever.
Some girls will be like, hey, what's going on later tonight, Winky Face?
You know what I'm saying?
Right?
So it's like, I think we know what the fuck DMs are.
And some girls that they just want to say great show will say, hey, me and my boyfriend went to your show.
We had so much fun.
Yep.
They throw boyfriend in there to let you know it's completely platonic and low-key.
They might be saying that and they go, what are you guys doing later?
That girl might be leveraging her sexuality to hang out with you because her boyfriend wants to.
The boyfriend might be going, hey, he's not going to respond to my DM because I don't have tits.
You have tits.
Use the power of your tits to get that person to respond.
Dangerous game, my friend.
That's a dangerous game.
You know what I'm saying?
So now, are you saying that like the DMs, because there's such an overt sexual tone in it, that it's on the messenger to make it clear what the intentions are?
I think it's a shared responsibility.
Yeah, I think it's one of those things where it's like, it's shared, but it's not on anybody.
But it's not absurd to assume that there could be sexual context.
If you are messaging me privately, the understanding is there's a reason you don't want this public.
And maybe you're just shy.
And sure, we should all just assume that you're just shy and it means nothing.
A lot of times that's not what it means.
And to Andrew's point, our girls would not think it meant she's just shy.
I would just ask girls what they think the DMs are.
If I'm responding to random girls' DMs, my girl's gonna be like, yo, what's good with that?
And then I'll be like, well, I'm just girls just DMing me.
Is she literally going to go to me?
She'll be like, are you so stupid to think that girls are just DMing and they don't want anything else?
Yeah.
Like, here's the thing.
A lot of people read Playboy for the fucking articles, right?
Majority of people ain't looking at them fucking articles.
I can't name one writer for Playboy.
Yeah.
I don't believe the words in Playboy.
Can y'all name one writer for Playboy?
Like, that was the thing that people love these articles.
I don't know a single article.
No.
I didn't even know there was articles.
Apparently the interviews were kind of good.
And I'm assuming they got the interviews by being like, hey, you could fuck any one of these girls in interviews.
I guess I guess what I'm trying to say is, like, like, like the way you're worried, there is a shared responsibility that we all have for the murky waters that is the sexual exchange.
It's mysterious, it's dangerous, and it's uncomfortable.
And I want women to be the most comfortable they possibly can be in those situations.
I truly do.
Okay.
That's not to say that there aren't fucking psychopaths out there and there are sociopaths out there that are like womanizing and doing fucking horrible shit and being real pieces of shit to women.
You can fuck a lot of girls and date a lot of girls without being a horrible piece of shit to them.
Yeah.
You know, you could also fuck a lot of girls and date a lot of girls and be really good to the vast majority of them and then fuck up and be a piece of shit to a couple of them.
Yep.
And you could also not fuck that many girls and still be a piece of shit.
Like, yeah, like y'all.
Valid point.
Can you like, could you clarify one part?
Like, do you think that people with power could use their power in order to manipulate a young, impressionable person in order to like exploit them for sex?
Yeah, you could.
Of course you could.
Yeah.
What define young and impressionable?
So like you're 18, you DM someone, you're like, oh, you're really funny.
And then a famous person could use their power in order to have sex with them.
What I, I, 100%, I agree with that.
And then you could.
I will say this, though.
We have to decide in age when women are women.
And we got to stop infantilizing women.
If an 18-year-old woman is old enough to be sent to Iraq to go to war, right?
If she's been, she's old enough to give her life in the United States of America, she's old enough to get a DM.
If she's old enough to get a $400,000 loan that will cripple her financially for the rest of her life for college, she's old enough to get a DM, right?
Like we can't infantilize women when we want because we remove their agency and we remove their power when we're just trying to create these like little bumpers like they have in bowling.
Bars, yo.
You know what I'm saying?
Their agency, this guy said, but does that make sense?
You bitches ain't got no agents.
That's the problem with a lot of you.
They just try to get some flowers.
Y'all are ready to get bread by Jason Steinberg.
Come on, yo.
Call UTA.
Okay, UTI.
You know what I'm saying?
So it is a weird situation where it's like, yeah, you can create all these rules to protect women and we could take the age and we could decide what it is.
But if you can vote for the United States president of the United States, if you can go to war, if you can get a fucking huge bank loan, if we can give you insane responsibility at 18 years old, that's the assumption that you are mature enough to handle it.
You should be mature enough to handle a fucking DM.
And if we don't think women are mature enough at 18, let's make that law and let's pass that law.
21.
21.
35.
I don't care what it is.
Whatever you guys think it is, or whatever the country thinks it is, let's do that.
Let's do that.
But it's 18.
And I don't care if your state says 17 or 16.
Nah.
I don't care if 17 or 16 is legal in your state.
It's 18.
In the core of public opinion, it's 18.
And if you go under 18, don't give me woes in Colorado.
No.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No.
You are after young girls, fam.
That shit got to be a national law.
Yeah, we can't have this state to state.
You know what I mean?
What is that?
That's crazy.
Mississippi, I think, 16.
You fucking 16-year-olds on technicality.
There's some states that's like 14 or something like that.
You can get married in New Hampshire at 12 or something like that.
What is going on?
Weirdos, yo.
That's not even bar mitzvah age.
Son, yeah.
12?
This bitch ain't even a bot yet?
Yeah, that's adoption.
That's just adoption, I think.
That's just Winnie Allen, yo.
Yo, son.
Anyway, so I think that is an important conversation we have.
I think these conversations are really important.
I hope this sheds a little bit of light on like why guys are frustrated.
And I hope that we articulated why we get frustrated and kind of like scared from these Me Too movements.
But also, I hope it sheds some light on why the sexual experience for women is fucking terrifying.
Yeah.
Because literally every girl has had a horrible experience sexually.
That's a good point.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm not trying to like say.
It's not horrible like he was, he sucked in bet.
Horrible like, oh, fuck, this is terrifying.
You were coerced or whatever.
I'm too drunk.
I might be raped.
Something might, like, that is a normal thing that women have had to experience in their life.
And we never have had to experience that.
So it's hard for us to even calculate.
And also, if you're a fucking decent guy, it's not even coming into your brain that you would want to rape a girl.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm too insecure for that.
I like when the crowd claps.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Like, I can't be bombing sexual.
That's all rapists.
It's like, yo, these comics that bomb a lot, we got to watch out for them.
Because you enjoy nose too much.
Yo, boo and no are very similar, bro.
I've seen you at a show when someone fell asleep because they were so drunk and you yelled at them.
You were like, yo, what are you doing?
Wake up.
Wake up.
You had some fucking.
So just to slice a thing, like you agree that someone could use their power in an abusive way in order to manipulate someone to have sex, but just because someone leverages their power in a sexual relationship does not mean it's abuse.
Yes.
And I think someone exists, both male and female.
I think there are females that will, I think there are men that can abuse their power, especially in certain industries where women really want to get into that industry.
That's fucked up.
And that's fucked up.
And I know for a fact famous women who have done that to men who are very famous, right?
Now famous, right?
So I think people use their power to get what they want.
And sometimes that's sex.
And I think that's abusive.
And I think that's fucked up.
Yes.
I also think there are ways where people are using their power to engage in, you know, to get the most out of the situation they're in, right?
So there are girls that might use their sexual power to get some free drinks, but they'll just kind of walk up to a bottle service table.
And those guys are using their financial power to have bottles so that girls walk up to the table.
And that exchange is good.
As long as both parties are cool with it.
Sure.
I mean, I'm okay with that.
How thinly do you have to slice morality on this girl's getting free drinks?
And like, all right, who gives a fuck, really?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So in conclusion, let's kind of wrap this discussion up.
The reality is we're not going to sit here and go, these are the rules for sex.
One, because there's no women here.
So we need to know, one, how they feel.
Two, you guys haven't had enough sex with multiple people to even really talk about it.
Financial Exchange at Bottle Service Tables00:03:22
Right.
So you don't understand.
Even with the one person, I'm just saying.
So like, we're not going to go and say that.
And that's a longer discussion and a discussion that needs to be had with tons of different guys and girls together and mapping out all the different possibilities and how we would interact with those things.
It is a dark and murky and like Akash said, and I think you described the best primal activity that we are trying to put makeup on and class up and make safe for everyone involved.
Yeah.
Because I really do think the majority of guys do not want to fucking make a girl feel uncomfortable.
Yeah.
And I think the majority of girls do not want to meet to a guy.
They don't ever want to be even put in a situation where they would feel like they'd have to.
And maybe we're afraid to talk about sex publicly because, you know, we might have these like Judeo-Christian values that make sex seem taboo and it's a weird conversation to have, but we need to have the fucking conversation.
Yeah.
And I think it's good that we're having these conversations.
And I hope the thing that comes out of this is a more equitable and safer environment for sex for everybody.
For everybody.
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Look, my man, my man, Sean King, Talcum X. Shouts and Talcum X. Talcum X. That's good.
Cultural Appropriation of Native Symbols00:14:43
He's out here.
You know, Sean King's been out here.
He's been very vocal during this time with George Floyd.
And I haven't been at all critical with him because I think that most of us have been aligned to the things that he's been fighting for.
But just like Sean King does, he's going to have to go and get out of pocket.
You know, he's going to have to get out of pocket, take it out of pocket like a handkerchief, a white handkerchief.
You know what I'm saying?
So Talcum X said, and this is the quote, yes, I think the statues of the white European they claim is Jesus should also come down.
They're a form of white supremacy.
Always have been.
In the Bible, the family of Jesus wanted to hide and blend in.
Guess where they went?
Egypt, not Denmark.
Tear them down.
Wow.
Now, You know what?
Here's the thing.
They didn't go to Denmark because they didn't know Denmark existed.
One, obviously.
Two, he just had sandals.
This is freezing in Denmark.
You can't go through that weather.
I mean, he's just not built for sandals.
You know, Denmark, right?
I don't think that was even on the table.
Yes.
Second of all, walking on water is easy when it's made out of ice.
He wouldn't even be special.
Right?
Like, Denmark is...
Third of all.
People take so many liberties with Jesus.
Just make them black.
What's the big fucking deal?
You go to Asia, Jesus is Asian.
You go to parts of Africa.
You go to Ethiopia.
My man was telling us last week.
Abba was telling us last week when he grew up going to church in Ethiopia.
He's Mozie.
But when he was going to any church, Jesus was black.
You never seen it.
You want your God to look like you.
If he's flesh, you want him to look like you.
Yo, so just make him black?
Nobody cares.
Do you think Jesus really had abs?
Jesus has abs in every rendition of.
I haven't met a single Middle Eastern person with abs in my entire life.
Not a single one has abs.
Can you name one?
No, but here's what I was going to say.
Jesus, there's a lot of dark-skinned black Jesuses hanging up in black people's houses in America.
If Jesus went to Egypt, the Egyptians I know aren't dark-skinned black people.
They look more Middle Eastern.
Oh, yeah.
Egyptians are Middle Eastern.
Rami look Middle Eastern.
Everybody on his show when he went to Egypt look Middle Eastern.
Absolutely.
If you hide in Egypt, it's probably because you look Middle Eastern or is dark-skinned black Jesus a problem?
Yo, just make that.
That's a great point.
But make him put Jesus in blackface.
Blackface him.
Yes.
Blackface Jesus.
Give him an Afro.
Give him cornrows.
Who gives a fuck?
Change his name.
Changes to what?
I don't know.
Black Jesus?
Le Jesus?
No, the Jesus.
Jesus.
The Jesus Christ.
No, but for real, it's like, stop it with this tear down the statue shit.
It's so stupid.
I mean, crazy that they would, he's accusing someone of presenting as a different race than they are.
Isn't that crazy?
That is so crazy.
That is so crazy that Sean King is accusing someone of presenting themselves as a different race than they are.
I mean, what a disgusting thing.
It's vile.
It is absolutely vile.
It's just like, you're an yo, man.
How do you...
You're an imposter.
Yeah.
How do you live with yourself as an imposter?
I don't know.
How could you possibly be a different race than you actually are?
Where do you go to blend in?
An HBCU?
Where would you, dude?
You going to an HBCU is no different than white Jesus going to Egypt and blend in.
So shut the fuck up.
Did he blend in in Atlanta and Bankhead or Buckhead?
Which are one of those two?
I didn't even know.
I'm just curious.
Dog, I really hope black people, like, if you want Jesus to be black, by all means, black him up.
Black him up.
Real talk.
Do it.
Whatever you want to do.
Just do it.
I don't think...
Listen, Mark, you're the most Christian person here.
Would you give a flying fuck?
Take him off the cross, put him on a hoop.
I don't give a shit.
How about fucking dunk in Vince Carter style?
I don't care.
Make him Vince Carter.
Real talk, bro.
Go for it.
Yeah, but there wasn't basketball back then.
Who cares?
There wasn't Denmark either.
There wasn't Denmark.
That story's been rewritten a million times.
Who knows when that really fucking happened?
It's all fake.
Yeah, guess what?
Jesus wasn't even Christian.
He was fucking Jewish.
That's going to break your heart when you find that out, huh?
That guy had a mezuzza on his front door.
Okay?
He's taking Saturdays off.
Sammy Davis Jr. more like Jesus than any black person I know, huh?
Explain it.
Oh, he's black and Jewish.
Yes, black and Jewish, like Kid Cuddy.
Kid Cuddy's Jewish.
I think.
Like Drake.
Drake.
There we go.
Yeah.
Oh, Drake is black and Jewish.
But then he had that song, Kid Kaya, the song, like Black Andreto, Black Andreas.
No, that's not him.
That's what's Khalifa.
He's Middle Eastern, bro.
Yeah.
Khalifa.
Khalifa.
Come on.
Black Andrea.
Black Andreto.
Black and Dreida.
Look.
So all I'm trying to say is, like, stop it with that shit.
This fucking statue says drive me crazy.
Would they want to switch to Columbus statue?
Dude, wait, I want to tell you something because we were doing research when we did our statues piece about the Columbus statue.
You know what's hilarious?
You know who also wanted the Columbus statues taken down?
Columbus?
The KKK.
Wow.
Those were the first people, the Klu Klux Klan, were the first people that were arguing to get those statues removed.
Why?
Why?
Because those statues were erected to make immigrant groups, specifically the Italian immigrant groups, feel comfortable and feel part of America.
So they idolized this guy, Christopher Columbus, who was of Italian descent, who came and discovered the new world.
And they were like, hey, this guy is brave.
He's just like you.
He went to the new world with his hopes and dreams, etc.
That's why the statue was erected to make immigrant groups feel welcomed in a part of America.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's mind bottom.
So the KKK was like, we don't want them feeling welcome and comfortable.
We don't want them to feel like they are part of this, you know, the fabric of America.
So now you agree with the KKK.
Like, real talk.
Any person, we said this on a piece, but any person that is offended by the Christopher Columbus statue, how are they not offended by America?
They are, kind of.
So then, shall we get rid of America?
Like, I guess what I'm saying is any person who would be offended by the treatment of Native Americans by Crystal Columbus must be offended by the treatment of Native Americans by America.
Yeah, yeah, they are.
They're just not going anywhere.
Who isn't?
I mean, there's a lot of people.
I don't want Thanksgiving.
Isn't monstrous holiday celebrating, et cetera.
Thanksgiving is lit.
Yo, it's my favorite holiday.
And they were trying to kill a group of people that they thought was me.
Not until they got that stomach full.
Do you know what I'm saying?
It would have sucked so much more if he actually got to see actual Indians, like from India.
And we didn't fucking eat Indian butter chicken.
Nah, that shit would be so.
Thanksgiving boys.
Turkey is a dry ass fucking boy.
If we got to actual India, Dunduri turkey, tunduri.
No, fuck turkey.
Give me that chicken.
Oh, you're right about it.
Give us that chicken.
Y'all already have food down.
These Native Americans can't cook shit.
Dry turkey, dry corn.
Real talk.
Has any Native American food continued past Thanksgiving?
I mean, their idea of a feast was just a bucket full of vegetables.
Buffalo burgers.
A cornucopia.
A cornucopia.
With Buffalo burgers?
Buffalo is Native American.
That's some shit they eat.
And they're using every part of the buffalo.
Buffalo wings?
Buffalo.
They started that?
No.
They did not start that.
Why are they called Buffalo Wings?
Because it's from Buffalo, the city.
Dogs?
Yes.
That's why.
Okay?
But back to the Native Americans.
He's so upset about that.
Yeah, because that should be bothering me, bro.
That should be really bothering me.
Look, here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
Native Americans, the cuisine fell off.
Did it not?
It fell off.
It shouldn't even been on.
I would go so far as to say.
Maybe they ate that dry ass turkey and stuff, and they're like, get rid of these motherfuckers.
I really, I literally, I'm really a little bit, if I may, if I may.
You may.
Okay.
I think the food was so bad that the settlers were like, oh, they don't even have a culture.
Right?
So they're like, they won't mind if we just take over.
I would go so far as to say that Thanksgiving is actually a British meal.
Wow.
Wow.
Let's go over it.
Mashed potatoes?
You ain't got no fucking potatoes in America.
That's an Irish thing.
There was no potatoes here.
What did they have?
That's the traditional English breakfast.
Bangers and mash.
Bang.
Okay.
What else did you have?
Stuffing.
Definitely British.
That's white people.
Super white people.
How can I put more bread in something?
Yeah.
Well, what else is that?
The only thing they got is corn.
Corn is corn slaps, though.
Corn slaps.
Not gonna fit.
I don't even think we use the same corn.
They call that shit maize, right?
It was Mad Little?
Yeah, it was Mad Little.
Okay.
And they called it maize.
My point is: like, if corn is your contribution to the meal, that's rude.
Because our bodies don't even eat that shit, bro.
You ever eat corn, you go, oh, more corn.
Yo, that's probably when he found out he was not in India, Christopher Columbus, when he ate that dry-ass, bland-ass food.
There's no spice on this shit.
Yo, real talk.
Y'all talk about how trash white people's food is.
Native American food worse.
Nah, I think it's insane.
Son, they didn't even have alcohol.
Oh, yeah.
Like, how little attention are you paying to food and cuisine and entertainment that you don't even got alcohol?
What was the last time?
They do now.
Yo, but imagine how amazing alcohol is and our food is.
Is it now?
They're like addicted non-stop.
They can't help it.
The second they got white people food, they were just addicted, bro.
What's white people food?
Alcohol and meth isn't it?
Alcohol, meth, blankets, being warm at night.
Yo, they got addicted to being warm at night, bro.
They never had blankets and then we came through.
All right, I got some more Indian food.
Okay, go.
Native American, sorry.
Yeah, thank you.
Deer meat.
Venison?
Yeah.
Okay.
Hey, is venison good?
Oh no, Rogan probably likes it though, so you better.
This is how whack venison is.
Deers die on the highway all the time.
Ain't nobody like, yo, let's carve up a burger.
What's the difference between a venison and an elk?
I think it's a different animal.
Well, yeah, they're different animals.
How different?
How are they different?
What's the difference?
A deer is more of like the version of it.
I think most people would agree.
You know, an elk is a boss ass animal.
A deer would be at like a pride march.
You know what I mean?
Deer do look mad graceful, yo.
Yeah.
Deer be prancing.
Cute with a little bunny tail.
Yeah.
Shaking that thing.
You know, a little cottontail bunny.
All right, we got pumpkin.
Pumpkin slaps, yo.
Pumpkin slaps, yo.
I thought that was white people.
Why they got given a white colour.
What would you guys do in the fall without pumpkins?
Yo, son, son.
Yo, off that alone, y'all should have let them live, son.
Fuck.
Son, can I be honest?
Yo, white people soul fooded pumpkins.
Can I be honest with you?
They soul-fooded pumpkins.
No, no, can I be honest with you, yo?
Can I be honest with you?
Native American.
That's the white pig, is this pumpkin?
Y'all get a lot with it, yo.
Yo, ready?
What color is sugar brown?
I really threw a friend chicken on you.
I'm trying to help you out with pumpkin.
I'm not pumpkin eating sugar.
Nah, sugar's white.
Yeah, okay.
Right?
Sure.
The domino one is right.
Maybe they ain't got domino back then, but I wanna say that.
They got some shit that they killed black people with the very game they love, domino sugar.
It's foul, yo.
I guess they make names of sugar.
Just like that, Jesus.
They take something brown and make it white.
Bro, everything's sweet.
Y'all turn white.
Yo, Sean King is in a domino sugar people.
Yo, okay.
Well, I was trying to make some correlation, but I'm not sure.
Yo, pumpkin is trash without sugar.
It's trash without sugar.
With sugar, it's amazing.
Can I give you another example?
Cinnamon.
Wait, what is that word?
Cinnamon.
Cinnamon.
Yeah.
Trash without sugar.
Add the sugar.
Unreal.
Unreal.
Take real and then undo it.
That's what you get when you add cinnamon to the sugar.
But isn't sugar more of a Native American thing?
No.
Yo, they kind of got some fucking fire food.
I kind of didn't realize that.
Yo, maple syrup, vanilla, turkeys.
These are all Native American foods, yo.
Maple symbols.
You don't need to eat your sugars, bro.
That's not fucking Native American.
That's peck a hole in a tree.
Peanut butter.
Oh, shit.
Nah, that's a black dude.
Yo, let's go, yo.
Mark, relax.
What's good?
George Washington.
Rax.
How is it George Washington?
He's carving Native Americans out of history.
That's what he's carving.
Real talk.
How is it that George Washington Carver hasn't had a fucking movie made after him?
Where's his statue?
He needs a statue.
They're going to say that.
No, he does need to say, we got a planter peanut.
Why don't we got George Washington Carver on that shit?
You got Aunt Jamaimo on the syrup.
Except we didn't put Aunt Jamaica.
Put the Native American on the on.
Yo, but real talk.
Why didn't we put Antomimo on the syrup?
We know damn well Aunt Jemima didn't get the fucking syrup out of the tree.
We need to land a lakes lady on the Ant Jemima syrup.
Bang!
No, we don't.
We need a fucking hummingbird or a woodpecker.
Give them their credit, yo.
They didn't invent that.
You know how drunk they had to be to be sucking off a tree and they want some maple syrup.
They did it, though.
Y'all didn't do it because y'all were busy drinking.
Y'all had alcohol.
They did something.
You have to admit, white people have been incredibly effective given our addiction to alcohol.
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We've been the most effective alcoholics.
No.
Yeah, just steal everything.
Irish people aren't drinking.
Yeah, but we got our wits.
We got our wits together.
Because your inhibitions are down.
So now you're just, oh, let me just rob this motherfucker.
Give me that.
It helped you that.
And Irish people, mad effective.
At what?
Motherfuckers can't even grow potatoes, fucking losers.
Yo, son, how you can't grow potatoes?
That shit, like, they're like, fuck.
We didn't have time to potato famine.
Did you try putting it in the ground?
Hey, did you try planting a potato?
That's like the first thing they teach us in elementary school.
How to make a potato.
Son, how the potatoes don't come out of the ground?
You telling me it was too sunny?
Hold on.
You tell me there was a time in fucking Great Britain where it was too dry and sunny, the most wet place on the fucking earth?
I don't believe this potato famine.
Yeah.
They were too drunk.
Say what?
They were too drunk.
They were too drunk to be effective, yo.
But that's Irish.
That's the whitest white.
That's the white.
That's white.
White.
Yeah, that's translucent white.
Nah, you don't think that.
That's Sean King white.
Sean King is Irish.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But what about the Black Irish?
Oh, that's a good point.
You haven't heard about them, have you?
I haven't.
What's that?
A black drunk person?
Say what?
Is that a black person who drinks?
Oh, the Black Irish, the Spanish Armada.
They came to Ireland and they made them black.
That's the token you see at the same time.
No, it's just, it's literally just an Irish person with like brown hair or something.
It really is.
They just called people with brown hair.
That's how white Irish that brown hair made you black.
Oh, wow.
Mark, back check me on that.
That might be true, though.
Yeah, I'll look it up.
There actually is an interesting correlation where like Irish slave owners that came over would give, like, slaves would get the last name of where they were from, or they would get the name of where they were from.
Yeah, sure.
So Tyrone, Ireland is like one of the most, it's like a wealthy part of Ireland back in the day that people used to come over.
And that's why, like, a lot of black people are in Tyrone, allegedly.
Oh, so Tyrone is a white name.
A little cultural appropriation.
That's a fire name.
That shit is ours now.
All right, what else we got?
People upset at Bill Simmons or some shit because there's not enough diversity or something?
I think he said some shit.
Like, they asked him why his hiring practices weren't more diverse.
And he said something like, This is a business.
I can't just give podcasts to anybody.
But then, like, his son has a podcast or his daughter or some shit like that.
Yo, son, let me just tell all y'all that are complaining about this.
We just see you as nerds.
Like, nerds don't have color to me.
I just realized.
Now, listen, my boy Van is on there, Van shouts at Vanilla, but he's not an employee of The Ringer.
He has a podcast on The Ringer.
And this is about the Ringer employee specifically.
But if you work for Bill Simmons or you are Bill Simmons, you're just a nerd.
So if you're a black nerd or a Chinese nerd or a Filipino nerd or a white nerd, whatever you are, you're just a nerd.
And I thought that nerds didn't care about diversity because I thought that they were just happy to have another person there.
It didn't matter what race they were.
That being said, I don't know.
Like, what are you supposed to do?
I don't know.
I always thought his writers were not diverse in the way they thought.
It's always just the same type of person.
Right.
And that person, I think, tends to be white and liberal.
But that was my main beef with Simmons: who he employed was just like cucks across the board.
Just nerds.
His rap critic is a white bitch.
I can't think of a person this music is less for.
Than white bitches?
White bitches.
Oh my God.
Oh, gosh.
I stand by that one.
You know what I mean?
Anyway, what else?
What else we got?
Okay, we got Pablo Escobar's family sues two chains.
This one's like.
Yo, how broke are the Escobars that you are suing two chains for likeness rights violations?
Because apparently they got his face on the restaurant or something like that.
Oh, I thought it was just Escobar's Tapas or whatever that shit was.
They named the restaurant Escobar's Tasmania.
I think I also have his pictures of him.
Yo, we got to have a conversation.
If you made your money doing foul and illegal shit, you don't have the right to your likeness.
I don't think you should.
Because we were going through this when we were doing the statues, right?
We're like, there's a statue that they took down in England, right?
What was the guy's name?
Edward Colston.
Edward Colston, right?
He was trying to free slaves.
No.
This is one who he was a massive slave trader, right?
But he also built the town of Brixton.
Bristol.
Bristol, whatever, some shit, right?
So he has this statue for building the town of Bristol.
But then people are like, yo, we got to take it down.
This guy made all his money doing slave trading.
And we're like, yeah, actually, I'm with that.
Because if you are known for your philanthropic endeavors, right?
But the only reason you could do the philanthropy is because you did some foul shit to get the money, you can't be rewarded for the philanthropy.
Like Escobar did mad philanthropy.
He was building schools.
He was building hospitals.
He was building fucking soccer fields all over the place.
But he did it by killing mad motherfuckers and selling drugs.
So I'm not going to reward you for your philanthropy if you did it doing some foul shit.
So if the Escobars, if you did some foul shit and motherfuckers want to make money off you, now you're upset.
I'm wrong.
Yeah, how's he not suing Kanye either?
What did Kanye do?
Life of Pablo?
But was that Pablo Escobar?
I think so.
I thought it was Pablo Picasso.
Yeah, no, I thought it was like the saint or some shit like that.
Like Paul.
So no, I always thought it was Escobar.
I thought it was assumed it was Escobar.
Kanye's never in his life.
The most authentic thing about Kanye is he never pretends to be a gangster.
Ever.
There's no like doing like selling drug shit.
There's no I'm catching body shit.
No, but good thing they didn't sue Kanye then.
So you're welcome.
I just think that they got to be broke.
That family got to be broke that you're worried about a fucking Tapa spot in Atlanta.
Like, really, you need to, during Corona, when he's probably making $1,000 a day.
Yeah.
You really suing that?
You want that thousand dollars a day?
Like, get the fuck out of here.
Yeah.
Nah, I think I'm with you.
I think I'm with you.
It's kind of stupid, right?
Suck it up.
Your dad was a piece of human garbage or your granddad or whatever it is, like a horrible human being that murdered thousands of people.
Like, suck a dick.
I don't know.
Because the family hasn't done those crimes.
So now.
But the family's profiting off of the name.
But it's his name they're standing for.
It's not.
And their lifestyle is completely propped up by those crimes.
They still got mansions.
They still got money.
They still got all the like every penny that they have that they're still spending now, all that money that he buried, that is blood money, yo.
That is blood money.
So if we're going to be upset about statues up here, if we got statues of, you know, racist and shit, we want to tear them shits down, tear down that their fucking mansion.
You got a point.
All right, he technically could sue Kanye because Kanye said he called it Escobar or Pablo because it was Pablo Escobar who moved product and Picasso who moved art.
And he was the two biggest movers of art and product.
Shut up, Kanye.
All right, we're going to take a break for a second and let y'all know real quick that we're going to be in Kansas City this weekend, man.
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Alex meaty got a little bachelor party action, so he not, but what?
Yeah, yeah.
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We added another show.
So we had a third show on Saturday.
We're there Friday and Saturday, Kansas City.
Anybody in that whole area, just come through, pull out.
It's going to be the first time back on the stage in months, man.
I'm excited to see what the fuck's going to happen.
But also, we're going to pay some bills right now.
Oh, yeah, more shows up at theandrewshouse.com, but Kansas City this weekend.
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Did you guys see how Bubba Wallace fumbled his 30 for 30?
This guy had the perfect, the perfect storyline set up for an amazing 30 for 30.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
All he had to do was drive around in a circle faster than other people.
Right?
Bubble Wallace is the black NASCAR driver.
He originally comes out with Black Lives Matter.
He gets the Confederate flag taken down from all NASCAR events.
Then a noose ends up in his they call it garage, but just to clarify, garage is each team gets their own section of the thing.
And they call that a garage.
So it's not the garage in his hometown.
It's at the venue, right?
So, which I think was set up, but we'll get there in a second.
And then he goes out there and the entire NASCAR, the stands, all the other drivers, everybody roll his car up to the front of the lineup and they show this huge sign of solidarity.
He's crying.
It's just this beautiful moment.
And then he comes in 14th.
If he wins that race.
Oh my God, it's amazing.
It's 30 for 30.
If he wins that race.
Yeah.
30 for fucking 30.
Done.
Amazing story.
Fuck 30 for 30.
You get a cinema movie.
So you might get a real movie.
Yeah.
Played by Sean King.
You got Sean King.
Sean King being the guy that hangs the noose.
So here's the question.
I mean, it's just this perfect story.
And like.
I don't know.
I think the noose was set up.
You mean no way to prove it or?
There's no way to prove it here.
Who do you think would do it?
I think somebody who is either on his team, I don't think the person who did it did it for like intimidation purposes.
I think the person who did it, go, go.
Go ahead.
No, go ahead.
Okay.
I think the person who did it did it for PR purposes.
I could say, I could see you saying NASCAR would do this to say, yo, the stereotype of our fan base, of our drivers, is they're all racist fucking race.
So let's do some real foul shit.
Let's set it up.
But then the reaction to it will be so open-minded and accepting of this black driver.
People will see, yo, not all of our fans are like that.
Not all of our drivers are like that.
So if your reason for shutting out NASCAR is some white racist shit, maybe you'll be a little bit more open to it and be like, oh, they're not all bad.
Which is ironic.
They're having to fight for that.
And what was the picture that we saw?
Everybody on the screen at the top of their lungs.
Black Lives Matter on the green.
She gave me chills just then when he said it.
Bro, it was beautiful.
It's a moment, bro.
And then he fucked it up coming in 14th place.
Don't you just crash the car?
Just go for number one.
Foot on the pedal the whole fucking time.
I mean, just pretend.
You know what they should have done to motivate him?
Somebody should have put a siren on their hood behind him.
And that motherfucker.
No question, yo.
Yo.
Talk about fighting for your life.
Nah, but they should have treated it like Kobe's last game.
Just let him win.
Let him win, like outlap everybody by like four laps.
Just like kill it.
That's what they should have done.
I'm gonna be honest, I'm so competitive.
I don't even let my girl win.
So I don't know if I do that shit.
But I hear you, man.
Like, just, I don't know, dog.
These people are so competitive.
But don't you wish she fucking won?
That would have been the perfect.
They put the noose.
I'm going to defy the noose.
I'm going to go out there.
I win.
All of the NASCAR fans are out there in support.
Everybody's cheering.
All the other drivers are cheering.
He's shaking the champagne.
He's pouring it all over the fucking place.
Bruh.
You think he just got too emotional early on?
You can't cry before some shit and then expect to go out there and kill it.
But it's driving.
Why are we acting like this is difficult?
It's probably why they put the noose in his thing, like to rile him up.
And it just didn't work.
And then everybody fucked it up by accepting him.
He's like, God damn, yo.
So you think they put it there for motivational purposes?
They tried to light the fire under him right before the race.
Like, let's get him.
Tricky choice of words.
Like the fire.
Bro, this is interesting.
What if it wasn't a noose at all?
What if it was like a bungee cord or some shit?
Like, what if it was just something for the car?
And then someone just forgot to like pack it away.
And then he showed up the next day.
He's like, the fuck is this?
These intimidations.
Kind of low.
Let's just throw it back up in there.
And then all the people in his team are like, damn, man.
I didn't realize you were going to come so early on race day.
I was going to put that.
I'm not going to say anything.
Like, it is.
Yo, it's to the point right now.
If you're white, you can't even buy a rope, B. Bruh.
Like, who would really remember that time where white people did that Tiki Torch shit and you couldn't have a fucking Hawaiian barbecue in the back of your house?
Yeah.
Without people thinking you were a racist?
The fact that you're having Hawaiian barbecues.
White people love Hawaiian barbecues.
Nah, but sometimes you just got them shits to keep away mosquitoes.
Ah, gotcha.
That too.
Is that what you call them?
Mosquitoes?
They are black and annoying.
Taking money and blood out of the system.
You can kill them and nobody can.
Oh, my God.
I thought I know you were to get in that.
Come on, you were to get in that.
Come on.
Come on, you got.
Gagnot!
Gagnot!
Gangnot!
I hate him.
What?
I got scared.
I don't know what to say.
So, but yeah, isn't that a...
Come back.
So, wait, what were we even talking about?
Who knows?
Oh, yeah.
So that was the Bubba Wallace thing.
That thing would have been perfect.
It would have been the perfect fucking story.
How do you not risk it all?
Like, even if you go down, like, getting, you know, pulled out, you got to go for it, right?
Oh, if he, yo, if he crashed and died, that's the greatest 30 for 30.
If he crashed and died.
Yo, think about that 30 for 30.
That shit is like Ford versus Ferrari, but with higher stakes.
So, but what would it mean?
What do you think it would mean?
Like, if he died, do you think the message would be prolonged?
Or do you think someone would look like they bumped him off the track on purpose?
I tell you what, some of these white women wouldn't have been getting the same amount of attention.
You know what I mean?
Son, that's a distracted point.
That's a fucking great point.
Wait a minute.
How on earth was he not trying to cut everyone off?
You don't want to be the person that crashes the black guy's car on the day of the Black Lives Matter race.
Yeah, that's why I think they put the noose in so he'd drive more aggressive and they should have let him win.
We got to have a talk with Bubba, son.
You need to win that one.
That was your race to watch.
It's just not good enough.
You pointed out yesterday that NASCAR is an expensive sport.
Like it's hard to get into that.
That's why there's not many black drivers.
Right.
Because like you have to start early and with like different cars and go-karts and all that type of shit.
And it's like hockey is also an expensive sport to get into it.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We were saying there's certain sports where like the barrier to entry is like wealth.
You know, it's like there's not a lot of black swimmers.
It's not because black people can't swim, right?
It's just like you need to have a fucking pool in your backyard or you're going.
People can't swim because their parents don't do this to them.
Okay.
Like did you?
This is, I don't know if you've seen this before, but it's the Casey Anthony Swim School.
And so here's a video of this, but like this is crazy.
I mean, does it feel like we wrapped up that last section?
Yes.
There's this thing.
There's this thing that I've seen before.
This is not the first time I've seen it, Al.
But it's a technique that white people, not just white people, but people do with their toddlers when they have pools in their backyard.
And they essentially teach the toddler before they can talk or anything that if they fall into the water to spin themselves over onto their back so that they don't drown in the pool.
And they can spin themselves over in the back and then just kind of like float there.
And that's what happens to these kids.
And it's a school where you just toss your fucking kid in the water and then it magically flips over and now it just floats.
So the thing is, a lot of people have these pools in their backyard and they're so fucking selfish.
They're so fucking selfish and self-absorbed that they won't put a fence around the pool because they think it's ugly.
Wow.
That they'd rather teach their kid to swim at two months old than just put some blockade on your fucking pool to affect the house.
It's unbelievable.
Do you see people, you're like, you're from Florida.
Do you see people with pools that did this?
Yeah, yeah.
They put a blockade?
Yeah.
Thank God.
But what does the fence have to do with anything?
What you would do is if you put the blockade around the pool, you could lock the fence, and then the kid couldn't go into the pool.
The idea is if a kid does this, then he just learns how to swim.
Exactly.
I ain't risking this shit.
Yo, this is yo, honestly, I'd be terrified to have a pool with a kid, bro.
Wouldn't you be terrified to have a pool with a kid?
Are white parents with water like Asian parents with math and spelling?
What do you mean?
We ain't fucking.
You're toddling it into him at a young age.
That's wild, song.
Yeah.
I actually, I think that's a natural reflex.
I think toddlers just do that shit.
Yes.
So I don't even know why you have to have a school for it.
So you're saying that, well, then what happened to all the toddlers that drown?
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Why didn't they do it?
That's what I'm saying.
I don't know.
Like, I'm pretty sure there's like an idea.
Maybe you got to make sure they do it the first time.
And then once they do it, they learn.
Yeah.
I mean, how terrifying is this?
This shit is tremendous.
It makes my stomach turn to watch.
And then she's like snapping her fingers by his head.
Like, keep looking at my hand.
Don't drown.
Why'd you have to get out of the pool to throw him?
Like, you should have been in the water.
Like, she fucking RKO.
When would a kid drop into the water like that?
Like, a kid would just fall in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's the more extreme version, I guess.
Yeah.
Thrown in there.
Yo, why is Mia Khalifa trending?
That's really interesting.
She says, trending with I have a black husband.
So probably she said some racist shit, but she's trying to cover it up with.
I can't really see it for Mia Khalifa.
Only did porn for.
I hate this bitch, though.
Yeah.
I only did porn for, only did porn for three months.
Oh my God.
Listen, here's the thing about porn.
It's very similar to AIDS.
You do it once or you have a little bit of it.
You have it.
You got that shit.
That's it.
You do your porn.
That's what you got.
You get your video leaked that's a private video.
That doesn't count.
Okay.
You sign up to get paid to fuck a stranger for money.
That's on you forever.
Simple as that.
Now, I think we live in a society that's become much more comfortable with porn because so many sex tapes have been leaked.
And it's almost like a way of doing PR.
And I think you're going to see a lot of these people who do porn actually cross over.
You see Lana Rhodes.
She's, you know, like a YouTuber now.
She dates Mike from what's it called?
Logan Paul's podcast.
What is it called?
Impulsive.
The Impulsive Podcast.
And Mia Khalifa is on the new Rami season, I think.
Really?
Isn't she?
I'm not sure.
I think so.
But Sasha Gray did the same thing.
Sasha Gray did it.
So as porn becomes way more normalized, you'll see a lot of porn stars kind of like crossing over because fame is just fame.
There used to be a time where like being a TV star wasn't as valuable as being a movie star.
Do you remember that?
Like, oh, yeah, he does TV.
It was actually looked at as like a step down.
Oh, you went from movies to TV.
Now TV is way more popular than movies.
So those people are way more popular.
So I think fame is just becoming fame.
And if you're famous for porn or if you're famous for this, it will almost be looked at as a kind of similar thing.
Yeah, I can see that happening.
That being said, like, there's a stigma to that porno shit, B.
So you think that stigma always gonna be there?
I think it depends on the type of porn.
Like if you did like some like sensual porn, maybe not.
But the one where like there's just like your saliva everywhere and there's like tears and there's just like cum all over your face.
Like I love this kid, Mike.
Shout out to this kid, Mike, man.
He's got the fifth vital.
He has a book out.
He's got a really interesting story.
You know, he was addicted to, I think it was opiates and he beat that addiction.
And then he went out to LA and he does his podcast with Logan Paul and he's like really funny on it.
He's really good.
And but just poor, he dates this girl who's a really famous porn star named Lana Rhodes.
And this poor guy, anytime he tweets anything, George Floyd, R.I.P. George Floyd, we need justice for black lives.
There is some guy who responds to the tweet with his girl just getting cum taught.
It's every single time, dude.
It doesn't matter what he's.
He could be the most supportive, beautiful.
We need to look out for the environment and we need to recycle.
And it'd be like, she seems to be recycled.
And there's just come all over his girl.
And it's just look at the unborn babies on this girl's face.
And it's just, I feel, I feel so bad for the dude because that's his girl.
Using People as Tools for Gain00:03:43
You know what I mean?
Like, he loves that girl.
And he got to deal with this every single time.
Oh, my God.
That's so funny.
That's rough.
So would you guys?
Nah, never.
You couldn't date a porn stock?
No.
Could you?
Obviously not, yo.
Mark?
Nah.
You want to test it?
You want to see, you want to drive the Formula One?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm saying.
There's a lot of maintenance involved with the Formula One car.
I can't say you want to own it.
You know what I'm saying?
But if Ferrari goes, you want to try this Formula One car, you'd be like, I got it.
I see how it feels.
You got to see how it feels.
Yeah, the Richard Petty driving experience.
They have that shit in Florida.
They do.
Yeah, you can drive a NASCAR.
Will you drive a NASCAR?
The Mia Khalifa driving experience.
Nah, not Mia Khalifa, bro.
Not those are a good name.
No, not happening, bro.
Son, did you see this Ja Rule commercial?
Man, Ja Rule's the GOAT, bro.
Yo, this guy's this guy's hilarious, man.
Jairu, the GOAT, bro.
You know, Pop Cristo got the best mother Gyros, Jairo.
You ever made your life so good?
Take one thing to, you got to have Peters, Peters, Pop Cristo.
This sucks, baby.
I'm just getting your rundown of some of my favorites.
They got Kazinki.
Octopodia.
Well, whatever.
But it's good.
It's so good.
Top Pizza.
So, so puzzle.
So when this came out, 50 Cent came out.
He's like, see, if you beef with me, this happens.
50 becoming kind of corny to me, bro.
It's like, eventually you got to grow up from the beef shit, man.
He used to praise this motherfucker.
I did when I was younger, and I think it was more enticing.
But like, you're 50 years old.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, you got to grow up, bro.
You got TV shows out there.
He's so good at it, though.
He is, but he fucked up here.
He didn't do his research.
Yeah.
So this Ja Rule shit is a show that he was pitching where he uses, he goes to these kind of struggling businesses and he uses his whatever celebrity cache to like make promos for them and try to build up the business.
Kind of like almost like a business rescue type thing.
So 50 Cent gave him all the promo that he wanted.
To be honest, the show on its own sucks.
You need that kind of promo.
People being like, yo, laugh at this guy.
Yeah.
And I think they did it for that reason.
They made a corny promo in the same.
I don't know if you guys, if you're not from New York City, but you probably have your own local advertisements as well.
But like in New York City, we have these horrible local advertisements that some companies leaned into how bad they were.
And then they became these like, I don't know, catchphrases.
Ah, yo, digital cable.
Like you had the Carmel 1-800, 888.
Whatever.
Oh, that might be a different one.
Yeah, but no, I know what you're talking about.
Yeah.
And like, they do that purposely.
They make it super duper cheesy just so people talk about it.
And that's what you want for a commercial.
You just want attention.
Exactly.
Shout out to Ja for being able to pivot because 50 did make him a joke.
So he just leaned into the job.
Leaned into the joke.
What are you going to do?
I can't be cool.
So let me lean into the cheesiness.
And who better to give me publicity for that than the guy who made me cheesy in the first place?
Real talk.
If you know what somebody's moves are, you can manipulate them and they can be your tool.
And I'm not saying Ja has the wits to do that right now.
He did it this time.
It might have happened organically.
Maybe he did.
But if I'm Ja and I know 50 likes to make a big thing about anything, anytime I do anything that looks corny, I will do corny things that I can profit from so that 50 calls him out and then I end up making some bread off of it.
So it's like, yeah, use that person as a tool if you know how their actions are.
And if he knows that you're using him as a tool, he'll stop using you as a tool.
And then all of a sudden, he's ignoring you.
He's off your back.
Conspiracy Theories About Fireworks00:07:25
Yep.
Son, you guys heard about the poison milkshake shit.
I knew that shit was fake, bro.
You did?
Off rip?
You did.
Who poisons the milkshake?
It just seemed weird to me too often.
That's funny because I believed it.
Because why would you suspect your milkshake be poisoned in the first place?
It's just the next thing.
You need to look at it or see something or it has to taste different for you to even suspect that.
I don't know if it was immediately.
I think immediately I might have, but by the next day, I was like, nah, I don't think so, man.
So apparently, these New York City cops, two of them, I think, said they all got shakes at Shake Shack and two of them were poisoned.
They tasted like bleach was in them or something like that.
Became this story.
By the next day, I think they said they weren't poisoned, I think.
But then now, apparently, they made up the whole thing.
The order was placed, I think, via app or something like that.
So you wouldn't even know they're taking the shakes for.
And then there was one other thing that was, oh, yeah, when they said the shakes tasted funny, they told the manager of Shake Shack.
They got vouchers for free food, free drinks.
They got like an apology.
So this is just some, this is some Karen shit or whatever you like.
Let's talk about these cops, man.
Because these fireworks that's been going on, son.
What do you think the firework thing is?
So the conspiracy is that the cops are letting illegal fireworks happen all over the country as to show like, hey, we have value.
And if you don't acknowledge our value, we'll just let chaos happen.
Like a form of chaos.
So they're up.
So people are upset that it's noisy at night.
Yes.
Okay.
If I see a single Latin complain about it being noisy at night.
If there's a single one.
That's a bored New York thing.
Oh, people don't read.
That doesn't resonate?
I don't think so.
Not down south.
How can a group of people with such strong unions be so bad at negotiating?
Like, you think this is what it's going to take for you to, we're going to be like, I know they're killing black people and that's fucked up, but it's just so noisy.
Let's just let them keep doing what they're doing.
Like, you think that's the deal we're going to take?
Like, oh my God, they're letting chaos run wild.
It's loud.
They had a meeting where they were like, how do we show how important and valuable we are to the community?
Noise complaints.
That's where you come in.
That's where you're the most used.
Yeah, I can't buy it.
The unions are too strong to think some shit like this.
It's poor negotiations.
I'm thinking some motherfuckers setting off fireworks and they know no one's going to stop them.
There is something to it, though.
So it's like, okay, go.
In my building, like I've been one of those old people, Facebook groups where everybody complains and shit like that.
So there's this annoying lady that she complains about everything.
She went to the front desk and she's like, why are they allowing these fireworks to happen?
Frontix, the front desk guy told her that the police said to him verbatim, these are all misdemeanors at best, and we're not policing those at the at the moment.
So they have prioritized certain crime, I guess, with the political climate and civil climate of things in America.
So they actually are looking the other way on lower crimes.
So there is some truth to it, but I don't know if they're doing it to spite people.
I guess what you're saying is that, or what some, the conspiracy is saying is that the cops themselves are lighting these things off.
No, no, no, no.
They're just letting it happen.
I've heard somewhere that's like they're giving fireworks to like low-income companies.
Oh, word.
I haven't heard that.
Because people are like, these are like $1,000 fireworks.
Like they're massive happening everywhere.
Again, what do they think?
Do you think the low-income people are going to be like, guys, it's okay, just keep killing black people.
I just can't, this is ruining my property value.
The noise.
I think what they're hoping.
I think what they're hoping is either people start getting injured or fires start happening.
Because now fires start happening.
Oh, we can look at all these people running wild on the streets, looting.
And then the firefighters are even bigger heroes.
Possibly, but it's a little something weird about it.
Yo, where have the firefighters been?
They chilling.
They are chilling, right?
Ain't nobody saying defund the firefighters.
Yeah, why would you?
They got a lot of trucks.
But they don't kill nobody.
Say what?
They don't kill anybody.
Yeah, that's true.
We're not upset about the misuse of tax dollars here.
No, but who was fire hosing all those people back in the day?
Oh, shit.
No one ever talked about that.
That's true.
Nobody ever talked about how fun that shit probably was.
You never go to the carbon, play that game with the water.
Keep it a buck.
right?
Imagine you're a racist, right?
Imagine you're a racist.
You're a black guy who's racist against white people, right?
Okay.
Imagine you work for an all-black fire department.
Okay.
Right?
Now you got these white people that are out here running about causing civil disobedience.
Running them out.
Right.
And you've been going to the carnival your whole life playing that stupid game where you shoot the water gun into a clown's mouth.
Right?
Right?
Your whole life you've been playing that game.
And then all of a sudden, you hear the firebell, neater, neater, whatever that shit is, right?
You hop down a pole and then your fire chief is going, he goes, you know what we're going to do?
We're going to spray down them whites.
Okay.
Are you a little excited?
You hate the whites.
So without question, yes.
You cannot be.
Would you forgive all police brutality if there was a day where cops just lined up and black people just got to fucking is that a fair trade?
Is that reparations?
I can't give a bitch.
It's tempting, though.
You got things about that.
Everybody gets to spray a cop.
High-powered hose.
Hold on, hold on.
Hold on.
Redemption shower.
I'm talking about the fucking.
Yo, yo, yo, we got to also keep in mind, it's not a garden hose.
Nah, bro.
That shit got some Hadook in behind it.
Like, it's going to move you, right?
Hopefully no one died from that hoe shit, right?
Well, I'll find out.
I'm sure they did.
No.
No.
Because here's the thing about the water hose, right?
Like, the dog sicking, that's so fucking foul, right?
Because you're like doing permanent injury.
But the fucking, the fucking, the, the water?
That shit was refreshing.
It's a hot ass summer day.
Oh, my God.
It's called flagrant too, bro.
You don't think a little bit you getting hoes the fuck down, but you've been marching.
It's hot as fuck.
And at first, when the hose is.
You've been sitting in not being served this whole time.
You're still AC back then?
You know what I mean?
It's scorching hot.
You in a full suit.
Martin Luther King told you to wear your full suit.
You're like, we couldn't do this in some gym shorts.
You know what I'm saying?
You suit and tied up and that water come hits at first and you just, you don't think a little bit, you just like that fucking.
I need some water by any means necessary.
You don't think you get a little flash of that flash dancers thing where the girl gets the...
No, it's like the game when you're a kid and the sprinkler is going on.
You try to run and move out the way.
Joe Budden Cop Confusion00:09:26
You don't think there was a little bit of refreshing?
I don't know.
The South is hot.
The South is hot.
You don't think there was some nice firemen that weren't racist who like didn't spray exactly on you?
They kind of like sprayed it up in the air and let it trickle down?
I mean, from the video, I ain't see none of that.
But if there were some of them.
Oh, my God.
Okay, let's rephrase it.
Yes.
You had to get attacked by a government authority figure.
Would it be obviously police?
They have rubber bullets, regular bullets.
They have like the batons and that kind of shit.
The army, they got weapons.
They got tear gas.
They got all that.
Park Ranger.
Park Ranger.
Park Guard.
Coast Guard.
Or Coast Guard got guns.
What you mean?
Coast Guard got guns, so they guarded the coast.
How many people?
Suspicious?
Harsh language?
Get away.
I'm trying to make some buckets here on me.
I thought they were doing a bunch of ALS challenges out there.
Throwing buckets of water at each other.
Son, all I'm saying is, if you had to choose a form of punishment from a government agency, getting sprayed by the hose gotta be the one.
Nah, man, that shit gotta put out house fires.
Say what?
House on fire.
It's gotta be strong enough to put out a house.
Motherfucking forest fires.
Son, did Amart Luther King say himself?
I feel like I'm integrating my people to a burning house.
So the fireman was like, We got y'all.
That was good, yo.
That was masterful.
Son, because you had to know history for that one.
You had to know history.
That's why I brought the fucking hoses.
Come on.
Oh, fuck.
Son.
Oh, my God, yo.
You don't think this flagrant, too?
Oh, it is.
Shit.
You don't think?
We got to go, yo.
We got to have fun, man.
No, I'm not saying leave.
I'm saying we got to go.
This is what we do here.
Oh, this is what we do.
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Okay, so Ashika Shek, obviously they made him up.
Cops, stop that shit, man.
And look at cops making it up with something that reinforces the stereotype of cops.
You might as well say they poison your donuts.
You couldn't get a protein-style burger.
I'm saying, yo, yo, they fucked up the collar green on my lettuce radica.
You know what I mean?
Apparently, there was no, I can't find any deaths from the hoses.
So that's what's up, yo.
So we good then.
Thanks, Bark.
Yeah.
So you don't think maybe it was a couple of protesters that said there was a fire.
Wow.
I see.
There's Puerto Rican kids in my neighborhood that play in the fire hydrant every day.
Thank you.
They don't seem like they're in pain.
That happened in, what was it, do the right thing?
When it was hot, crank that bitch open.
The end of holes and all the range was falling down.
I don't know what that is, but that's true.
You ever saw that movie?
It's a little different than a Peter.
Disney movie with La Move?
Yeah.
Yo.
The GOAT, yo.
The GOAT GOAT.
My man, what's LaBoof up to right now?
What's my man shy LaBoof up to?
I'm not saying anybody should do this, but now is the time to poison a cop because they've been completely discredited.
Al, throw me flagrant.
Al, what's up?
Keep that in.
Al, keep it.
Finally, finally, Al is on board with the flagrancy.
Market time.
Al got on board.
Al got on board.
Oh, boy.
Yo, that is a funny take, though.
Like, if you were to poison a cop now, nobody would believe you did this prime wolf with that shit.
Yo.
Oh, man.
Yo, y'all seen they let the cop off on bail?
Which one?
The one of the guys that killed George Floyd.
Oh, he just had Lowe's or whatever.
The one that looked like Joe Budden, they let off.
Son, they let off the Joe Budden cop that killed George Floyd, bro.
I thought it was Joe Button.
He don't hold back people like that.
Son, how the fuck they let off the Joe Budden cop that killed George Floyd?
That is fucking hilarious.
What's George Floyd?
What's George Floyd?
What's Joe Budden's hit song again?
What is that shit?
Pump it up.
Don't even know.
What that guy looked like if Joe Budden and Rory had a baby together?
Like, he's mad pale.
I mean, Freckles gonna get freckles.
Yo, come on, dog.
That's fucked up.
You can't let off the Joe Budden cop, bro.
You saw the whole video with him?
What was he doing?
He was just hanging out with his Oreos, and the lady was like, What are you doing?
What are you doing here?
He was like, I was just shopping.
He was like, mad blase about.
The whole thing's kind of a weird interaction.
I don't really know.
Yo, someone told us yesterday.
I think it was Robbie.
Was it Robbie?
Someone said that was his third day on the job.
Yeah, I think he was like really new.
I got to double-check that, but I'm pretty sure.
And he's literally in training.
Yeah.
It's like, fuck.
Yeah, that's a sucky situation.
I'm not trying to absolve him of any responsibility.
Absolutely not.
But it's like I almost trade supposed to follow, like, follow your orders of your supervisor or your higher up or whatever it is.
And didn't one of them keep asking, was it him or the Asian dude?
Shouldn't we take our knee off his neck?
Should you take your knee off his neck?
There's somebody who asked like four times, like, shouldn't you take your knee off his neck?
No, like, Asians don't be fucking authority, bro.
I thought that was one of like the bystanders.
I thought one of the cops said it.
Maybe I'm wrong.
I don't know, bro.
But we got to talk to that Joe Button cop, bro.
Because I don't understand why that Joe Button cop would have let that happen and why he would be out there with Joe Button's beard.
You know what I'm saying?
For real.
Doesn't it look like someone like Joe Button's beard looked like someone cleaned a barbershop with it?
Don't it look like they used that shit to sweep a barber?
Just no purpose whatsoever.
Yo, pull up a recent picture of Joe Button because I don't know.
I remember the clean look.
I just don't get why this dude was walking out like so arrogant.
Like regardless of whether he deserves all the stuff.
Yeah, he was too comfy.
Like, you know, people that's weird to me.
You watch it.
That was weird to me.
You can wear a mask.
You're like, yo, you're inside a store.
You're supposed to wear a mask.
But he's intentionally not wearing a mask, not wearing sunglasses.
Like, if I'm him, go around, but like, cover up a little, right?
Yeah, it's the audacity.
You're just like throwing it out.
That's a good point.
I'm surprised he didn't, because he could easily put the mask on, cover and avoid it.
Yeah.
And also, the lady comes over to talks to you.
Like, if someone's like, hey, who are you?
I'll just be like, nope.
And I would dip.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The way he answered, he was like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's me.
Like, it was, it was almost like a weird sense of like, yeah, I'm proud of you.
That's how I recognize it.
I'm comfortable.
His energy was like, I wish a motherfucker would.
Like, I wish someone would like step to me or say something.
He's like, it's how it seems almost.
Yo, that was odd.
That's a little weird, ain't it?
Yeah, yeah.
Like, not wearing a mat, bare minimum, just wear a mask.
Bare minimum, you wear the mask or you shave your beard.
Why do you want to smoke?
Why do you want to look like Joe Budden?
Yo, get it up.
It's an uncanny.
It's an uncanny resemblance, bro.
Oh, my God.
This guy.
Come on.
Get it up.
You got to get it up, bro.
No, no, that's Joe Button.
But that's not even the one that's going to be.
Nah, that cop do look like Joe Budden.
Huh?
That cop looks like Joe Budden.
The cop looks like Joe Budden.
Is that the cop or Joe Budden?
Wait, you want the cop or you want Joe Budden next?
I want the cop and Joe Budden next to each other.
Just Google Joe Budden cop that killed George Floyd.
Google, did Joe Budden kill George Floyd?
Google that.
You're going to find some shit.
Oh, my God.
If this shit comes up.
It's going to come up.
They're the same.
Nah, I didn't.
What came up?
Just the main cop who did it.
But we could pull it.
What was it?
The guy in the world.
Yo, the main cop who did it.
What's his first name?
Derek.
Derek Chauvin.
Chovin.
Yeah.
Voting Errors and Political Complaints00:03:29
That's it.
Who are you going?
No, Derek Joe Button.
Let's go.
All right.
We're moving on.
All right, let's wrap this up, Akash.
Anything else we got to talk about?
Yo, Alex, anything?
You got the topic list on us?
Let's take a look.
Okay, everybody getting Corona in Florida.
Mark, you got any explanation?
You fucking retards?
Oh, let's talk about that.
Yeah, bro.
Let's talk about it.
I got Mr. Guys who don't think this is real.
Yeah, they're trying to cancel all the free states, bro.
That's what they're doing.
They're trying to make all the free states, all the liberated states, the states with real American patriots.
They're trying to paint them like they're negligent.
This is honestly the best thing.
I'm serious.
If you do not want Trump to be elected, let these motherfuckers go maskless.
Why would you not?
Just okay, you guys who believe in Trump tend to be the mask inhibits my freedom.
Somehow, clothes don't do the same thing, but the mask inhibits your freedom.
Wear your mask, give each other Corona, don't vote in November.
Like, if you are liberal, you should love this.
Why are you complaining about these people?
You make a good ass point.
They're giving it to each other.
They're not giving it to you.
You're wearing your mask.
You're social distancing.
Who gives a fuck?
Let me ask you this question.
How are we complaining about this?
Akash.
Yeah.
Do you think it's possible that if we're getting into conspiracy world that the Democrats want to rig the election with electronic voting or mail-in voting?
Because then they can send way more votes in than they would-be people.
Why the Democrats as opposed to the Republicans?
I think in order for Trump to win or Republicans in general to win, we were talking about this yesterday, less people have to vote.
Yeah, because only like old people are going to be the ones with not shit to do and go out there and vote.
Yeah, so.
Like, I know how important voting is, but I don't want to go no.
Are you a citizen, though?
Good question.
But I ain't trying to go nowhere and vote.
Wait in line, son.
Son, waiting in line.
Shouldn't we encourage all people to vote?
I ain't waiting in line unless it's Jordan's at the end of that bitch.
We'll talk.
To be honest with you.
Oh, are you guys voting today?
Today is election day.
Hey, see, I didn't even know.
I voted.
I don't even know if I'm registered where I'm registered.
Did you?
Yep.
For who?
Conor Copia.
I need his vote.
I voted for what?
I do.
I voted for Colonel Bobby.
Democratic primary.
Democratic primary.
Also, some lower levels elections.
Nah, for real.
I know who won the primary.
Yeah, but it's still like there are other people on the people on a thing on a ballot.
Like, other positions?
Bro, Drew is such an asshole.
This poor girl calls yesterday.
Oh, what?
She calls him.
We're in the middle of writing this fucking piece.
And then she calls.
She's like, hi, I just wanted to call, see if you're voting tomorrow in the Democratic primary election.
Just want to spread the word.
maybe if you'd vote for our candidate, blah, blah, blah.
And he goes, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm going to vote, but I'm voting on Wednesday.
And she goes, well, unfortunately, in your district, you can only vote on Tuesday.
So I'd encourage you to vote then.
Literally drags on this conversation for 45 minutes with this girl going, no, no, no, but it's on Wednesday.
Why'd you do that?
So vote on Wednesday.
And this girl, instead of like debating why her candidates should get votes, she's just going back and forth like, I really think it's Tuesday.
She wasn't sure enough.
And she hangs up the phone and he goes, all right, get it on Tuesday.
If you're going to waste my time, I'm going to waste your time.
How is she wasting your time?
She wanted me to vote for a Niv Patel.
But she's just making you aware.
Doctor Incentives and Fentanyl Issues00:03:03
Because he's not.
It was an Indian.
Oh, that's the bone I got to pick with you.
Yo, don't make me.
Watch that way.
Son.
Yo, that's a two-hour long bone you were waiting to be.
Son.
Oh, my God.
I got a bone to pick with you and Indians.
All right.
Well, it's really not all.
Because I wish you fucking would.
Do I have the Indian candidate?
Yo, so it's not this Indian Patel guy.
It's John Kapoor.
Have you heard of him?
Nah.
This is a motherfucker.
I don't trust him, though.
His name is John.
Well, here's the thing.
He's, I guess, from India, comes here, and he's like one of the people that's responsible for the fentanyl crisis in America, son.
I was watching 60 minutes on it.
Son, this is an evil motherfucker, bro.
I believe it, man.
He calls himself John.
I don't trust no fucking Indian.
John Kapoor, get the fuck out of here, yo.
So this motherfucker, what he did is he essentially, I don't know if he owns fentanyl or whatever the fuck it was.
You can look it up.
But what he did is he got out these, like, these people who sell or basically kind of like bribe doctors to prescribe certain medication.
So they're pharmaceutical reps.
Yeah, that's what they do.
So I guess he represented fentanyl or owned fentanyl or whatever it is.
But he set up this whole representative team to get doctors to prescribe fentanyl.
Okay.
And he would reward the doctors that prescribed it and prescribe it more.
And he put them on these like speaking tours or whatever like that where they get money to speak because you can't pay them directly, but you only spoke if you prescribe the fentanyl.
And he would have data analytics of how much that he was prescribing to the people.
And he would only continue to reward them if they upped and increased the amount of fentanyl he was prescribing per person.
Wow.
So, and those people and those doctors were told, and if you do not continue, you're only giving this person five milligrams or micrograms or whatever it is, up it to 10.
They need to have more.
He literally forced addiction through doctors on these people and these scumbag fucking doctors who are going along with it were part of it.
And it was just this unbelievable 60 minutes piece.
Obviously, I have to find the other side to the story, but it was one of those moments where I sat back and I was like, I don't know if capitalism and health go together, B. Real talk.
I had to give it so clap there for you.
It exposed it.
Like, I want doctors to make tons of money because their job is so fucking important.
I want them to get paid so much goddamn money.
I want the best people to be doctors.
And I want the best people to be doctors.
And the way you reward that is with a capitalistic system, right?
Monetary gain.
That being said, when you create a situation like this where it's in people's best interest to make them addicts, you're just as bad as those drug dealers on the street.
Matter of fact, you're worse because those drug dealers on the street know they're coming to get illegal drugs.
These people are trusting a fucking doctor to give them something to make them feel better.
Yeah.
And like, I can't wait for the day of reckoning where like the veil is taken down from the pharmaceutical industry.
It's crazy.
I used to work in an oncology.
They have the, what do you call that shit in Congress?
Like the lobby?
The pharmaceutical lobby is like the fucking lobby.
It's the most powerful one.
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It's the one.
That's the fucking one.
They just got money.
They got crazy amounts of money.
You were saying you were.
So I used to work in an oncology office and we had some like the top oncologists like top of their Yale, Harvard, all these types of doctors.
These motherfuckers, and I knew this was going on For trial chemo drugs, they were incentivized in that same exact way to get as many of their patients to get on these trial chemo drugs, even though it's almost like I would say 90% of the cases, you see those patients deteriorate faster because these chemo, these trial drugs are so much stronger than the approved chemo drugs that are in place right now.
But these guys would get bonuses.
They would be at all these speaking arrangements.
This motherfucker is getting a million dollars per speaking arrangement.
Wow.
Son, it's crazy the shit that's going on in the medical system.
So what?
So that's what do you have to say about that?
Yeah.
Because you're Indian like.
You can't answer for your people.
No, I say this even.
I say this sincerely.
If you see an Indian defund India.
With an Indian last name.
We already did that.
With an Indian last name.
With an Indian last name.
People who originally defunded.
Y'all the kings are defunding, yo.
You gotta defund continents.
Captain's bitch.
That's hysterical.
Go ahead if you see this.
You see an Indian with an Indian last name and a white first name?
Do not trust this guy.
Bobby Jindal.
Bobby Jindal.
If you see a fucking William Subramanian or whatever the fuck, nah, bro, you out.
I don't trust you at all.
He's doing that for white people, and that's not an Indian you trust.
Interesting.
You out.
Is he saying they change their name or the parents name?
That's not his given name.
He calls himself that, so you guys trust him more.
But in reality, he just wants you to be able to pronounce his name because it's probably hard to pronounce.
So he manipulates the way that you pronounce it, right?
Yeah, but that's really fucked up that he would just change the pronunciation of his name just to like get the masses to be able to accept it more.
You know?
What?
Why are you looking at me?
Mark Gagnon.
Oh, that's how it's pronounced.
Holy shit.
That's how it's pronounced.
Holy shit.
How else could you pronounce it?
What?
How else could you pronounce it?
Mark Gagnol or whatever the fuck.
Yeah, no, they're saying it wrong.
How is it?
Gagnon.
You just want this shit to be closer to fag, don't you?
I'm trying to make you guys comfortable.
Anyway, it is crazy, man.
It really opened my eyes to like the evil.
But what's the solution?
Is there no way around that in a socialist medical system?
I think that unfortunately, the solution is an extreme amount of government overreach, and that is going to limit the amount of drugs that we have.
But I really think that drugs kind of like are like porn in that like we kind of figured it all out.
Like we've done all the drugs.
Like, yeah, we need a vaccine for this illness that's out right now.
Yes.
Do we need a vaccine for restless leg syndrome?
No.
Do we need a million different drugs for you're overweight and you don't want to stop eating?
No.
The drug for you're overweight, you don't want to stop eating is you stop eating.
Like, why are we creating drugs to enable the problem that you have?
So what's interesting is they tried to shut a lot of this down.
It just seems like another loophole.
And maybe they'll always find loopholes, but I remember my uncle used to get gift cards for everything, fancy dinners all the time.
It's payola like with radio.
Only people's lives are at stake.
And you can't, there has to be some kind of like monetary cap because it seems like it's the pharmaceutical.
Like if you kept doctors' salaries high, it would still be a competitive job, I think.
If the compensation for a family practice doctor is $350,000 a year, all right, I'll do that.
If it's a million a year for a neurosurgeon's salary, all right, I'll do that.
But all these incentives, that's where the problem is.
If I just get a high-ass salary, I will still want to be a doctor.
But all this other shit that you don't even know about that makes you think I would want to be a doctor, that's where you got to cut out.
You're so right.
But don't you also think that like people are naturally greedy?
So, if there's an opportunity to make more money, they might still take it.
And the problem, I think, is going to be the farm.
I think you got to go to the pharmaceutical company.
But even their salaries, they're incentivized the more patients they get.
So, yeah, so you want to like run hospitals.
And the business, like incentivize them, it's like, oh, yeah, you have a retention rate and you are bringing more business to here.
You get a bonus.
I know.
And I don't know what I know that's the thing.
And I also think in a social system, it will be like, we want you to see as few people as possible because we have to pay for all this.
This comes out of our pocket every time.
Like, people are naturally greedy.
So, what is the solution?
There is an imperfect solution, whatever it is.
I don't know what it is.
I think we all acknowledge that there is conflict, right?
Yeah.
Between capitalism and health.
Yeah.
Right.
And it is a really tricky thing.
So we have to do something to limit the extremes of capitalism when it comes to health specifically.
And I think we usually limit the extremes of capitalism when it comes to like most businesses, right?
You can't have monopolistic practices, right?
Child labor laws.
Child labor laws, even minimum wage.
Like there are things that we put in place here.
So we need to have a little bit more, and it's weird for me to even say this, but government overreach on a pharmaceutical company's ability to reward a doctor for using their drug.
Yeah.
And it's not, that veil is not going to get lifted for decades, probably, because there's so much other shit that's there that we are dealing with.
Yeah.
We're not going to look at that for a long time.
Hospital administrators are apparently greedy fucks.
Like they're not giving their nurses masks and shit like that because it's just like, I'm not spending that money.
This is, I'm sure you guys can poke holes in the solution, but like, what if we gave detail?
I know this might be against HIPAA, but what if we gave analysis of what happened with the patients that that doctor saw?
Not specifically by name, but for example, 60% of diabetes patients that saw this doctor ended up reducing their diabetes and blah, But if then we found out there are certain doctors that were like, oh, 90% of these patients that went and saw for back pain ended up being on OxyContin and being addicted and having problems.
They're like, okay, well, I don't want to see that doctor because analytics for whom?
Like a third-party agency that oversees all this?
Yeah, like it's almost like a Yelp review for doctors, but we get to do it based on what they're prescribing and how they're treating those patients so that we could go, well, shit, I want to be with that doctor who he seems like all his patients, not all, or 60% of his patients end up recovering.
While this one, 20% of his patients end up recovering and 80% become drug addicts.
Poke holes in it.
I'm trying to think if a private, because it would be a private company, which is good, because if it's a government agency, they don't, they're lazy by nature.
Government jobs are, you know, they don't do shit really.
Private company could be incentivized to get it done, but like, how are they incentivized for them to stay completely moral and transparent?
Because then they could be bribed by the Mark?
Yeah, it's tough.
It's tough.
Like, that's the other thing with these pharmaceutical companies.
You can try to find them.
Like, Johnson and Johnson got fined $500 million.
This is, go on.
I know where you're going with this, and this is really important.
People understand.
So go on.
So, like, this drives me fucking crazy.
So, Oklahoma ruling for Johnson and Johnson with their role in the opioid crisis, they were charged $500 million.
How much did they make off of the drug?
It's difficult to say exactly, but in the like a magnitude of greater than that, like in the billions.
So, essentially, these drug companies are going, I don't mind if I get fined $500 million for the drug that may or may not work if I can make a billion.
Yeah.
I made $500 million.
I made that's $500 million less.
Yeah.
Okay, I'll make $900 million, $950,000, whatever that fuck that the number is.
Who knows?
I made $500 million, right?
That's half, right?
So it's like all they have to do is calculate that punishment in.
It's probably no different than like the banks, right?
Like, okay, if I sell up the sell these fucked up things and I do this bad shit, if I sell people bad mortgages or, you know, these people can't pay and I take that loss, but think of all the money I made on interest and whatever.
Or even if the SEC finds me, I don't care if they find me because they're not going to find me more than the amount of money I made.
The punishment has to be greater than the amount of money made.
It maybe should go to the point where they can't make any money off of it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like even this dude, Kapoor, what's his name?
John Kapoor?
John Kapoor.
Yeah.
66 months in jail.
How many years is that, Anka?
Five, five and a half.
I mean.
To become a billionaire, you wouldn't do that or a hundred millionaire, whatever the fuck he was worth.
His family keeps a lot of the money.
I think you have to return.
And then you're out on good behavior.
Here it is.
And also, there's very few people that actually get actually tried.
That's right.
It's hard to catch them.
So here's the thing.
Maybe we do this.
If financial incentive is the reason why they're doing it, right?
We have to remove all the financial reward in the punishment for the crime.
Yeah.
So now you wouldn't consider doing the crime because you're like, well, I'm not going to do five years and I get no money out of it.
But I'll do five years and be worth $100 million.
Yeah, but like, how can you prove that the speaking engagement was payment for giving these meds?
You can't, but you can disincentivize the company that would be hiring the guys who do the speaking engagements if they knew that they could get punished and have all their profits removed if the drug ended up being faulted.
If white-collar crimes punishments were purely like, fuck jail time, it's all financial and it is heavily penalized financially, it might not even be worth it for them.
Because if you got, if your punishment for money laundering is we take all your money, I don't know how much you can prove whatever.
We just take it all.
I'm sure that's an overcorrection of the story.
Because they can afford the attorneys to that's the thing.
These rules won't pass because the people who break the rules are rich and make the rules.
So this is all some shit that would never happen.
It's a utopian idea.
This is something that really interesting.
Maybe we say this for Patreon because we got to wrap this up, but we just put it out there and then go check out Patreon, patreon.com slash flagrant sue.
You know, asshole army growing like crazy.
Almost at 10.
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So we're coming.
We're coming for him, bro.
So let's get up to that.
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And if you don't believe us telling you, go listen to the reviews, go listen to other asshole army members that fuck with the Patreon, they'll tell you for themselves.
But this is a discussion we should have over there.
When it comes to cancel culture, and we got to shout out to Miles, the guy, I think it was Miles or Ryan who brought this up.
Miles brought this up to us.
When it comes to cancel culture, it's really interesting we do not keep that same energy for the people who commit white-collar crime because you could make the argument that they affect way more lives.
Oh, yeah.
So the people from British Petroleum that fuck up the entire Gulf and you fuck up every one of those shrimp fishermen or any fishermen for that.
Talk about looting?
She's really looting.
The guy who steals some shit out of a Louis Vuitton store or the fucking guy who built the Louis Vuitton store on stolen money.
There we go.
It's like you got all these financial dudes, right?
Who are part of the economic collapse that end up getting bonuses that bail down bonuses?
There's no jail time whatsoever.
You really want to talk about canceling people for the shit that they've done to others?
I think we got to shed some light over at that white-collar crime, bro.
I think they tried.
Occupy Wall Street was in that fucking park.
Yeah, but they didn't want to riot.
They did that peaceful shit.
They didn't riot.
They didn't go to JP Morgan and break some fucking windows.
You know what I mean?
They didn't go to the banks and shake some shit up.
They were pussy.
Low-key, they were pussy.
And I genuinely would ask them, what are you guys trying to accomplish?
And they would all be like, it's on the website.
And I went to the website and there's nothing.
You're not asking for anything.
You're just a bunch of white fucking people who are not showering, hanging out outside of Zuccotti Park, which is a great park before you guys got there.
You know what I mean?
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