Michael Jordan and Bill Laimbeer face scrutiny over benching Isaiah Thomas, with theories ranging from homophobia to peer pressure from legends like Pippen and Johnson. The discussion contrasts Thomas's hardened Chicago upbringing against modern "uber liberal" sports discourse, mocking academic over-analysis of culture while defending action-oriented classics like Homer's Odyssey. Ultimately, the episode rejects performative social justice in favor of unfiltered debate, inviting listeners to join a Patreon community dedicated to fun without political ruin. [Automatically generated summary]
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Why Jerry Treats My Teammate00:05:13
Son, you wouldn't call him gay if you found out some motherfucker you were kissing on the cheek every single game end up having AIDS?
That's the least that you could call him.
You think Isaiah is great because he is gay?
Not call him gay because then it means like, oh shit, I'm gay by association.
I think motherfuckers still gonna know you kissed him.
That don't stop.
Did Isaiah have so it's like, yeah, of course, I gotta do something to punish this guy.
You were kissing me on the face.
At that time, you didn't know how you got AIDS.
You could get AIDS by kissing someone on the cheek.
You have no clue.
Also, saying that someone was gay when they had AIDS back in the day when only gay people had it.
It's not the craziest thing.
Yeah, but you must have had it.
You could talk to him.
That's your homie.
So tell me what the deal is.
Tell me what the deal is.
What's good with this?
And then, even if you don't believe him, that's one thing, but to never have the conversation and just go around the league being like, I got gay, yo.
Like, come on, bro.
Yeah, Magic said that he should have been left off the team.
He said in this quote, he's like, he should have gotten left off the team 100%.
It's a team everyone's got to get along, and he rubbed guys the wrong way.
Boom.
That's it.
People don't like you.
That's why you have to.
Magic said it, even though Magic loved him.
Like, Scottie Pittman hated him.
Jordan hated him.
There you go.
So maybe it wasn't even a Jordan decision explicitly, right?
Maybe it was like, maybe Rod was asking around, so what do we think about it?
Would you like to spend a few weeks with IT in Europe?
And enough motherfuckers on the team are like, I don't want to be near this guy, bro.
He's a pain in the goddamn ass.
We're going to win anyway.
Like, we don't need it.
Let's have fun.
Let's be around people that we enjoy.
Now, too, IT is in his defense a little bit, especially with that comment about like they don't keep that same energy.
Yeah.
I'm reading this book.
I read this book and they talked about IT's upbringing a little bit.
That motherfucker went through it.
Yeah.
I mean, like, he literally said some shit about trusting your instincts, and I'm sure he exaggerated a bit, but he's like, anytime you saw a guy in the corner, you had to make a decision, is this guy going to rob me, try to kill me, have a problem with me, or is he just going to let me walk past?
And every time you're walking to school, these are decisions you're making multiple times a day.
You got to learn to trust your instincts and say, fuck.
Yeah, that's growing up in the hood.
I mean, yeah.
And it was the crack era.
And like, he grew up in a rough ass part of, I guess, with Chicago, and 12 brothers and sisters, whatever, pops fucking walked out on him.
I think.
But it's just like, this guy went through it more than a MJ, more than a Magic, more than maybe not Larry, but more than a lot of these guys.
So I can see how that hardens you and makes you be like, man, fuck all y'all.
What is this?
Yo, did you see?
Did you see Bill Lambert's response?
I heard it was very like non-apologetic.
What'd he say?
He's like, stop whining.
Fucking love it.
He's watching the MJ doc, and he goes, he goes, he goes, yeah, we did it.
It was stupid, but stop fucking whining.
That's the point.
Whining about it.
Grow up.
That is a good idea.
And I saw a bunch of little bitches want.
He walked away, dude.
Shake our hands.
Shut the fuck up.
Grow up.
Be a man.
Little bitch-ass motherfucker.
Shake our hands after the game.
We shook your hands.
Yo, real talk.
Someone needed to say that to them, yo.
You can demean MJ's entire greatness with that.
Because that's his whole mindset to holding grudges.
Oh, I was talking high school team.
I got him.
What's Pearson?
Lindmart is a better player than me.
He was my roommate.
You beat me in ping pong, so I won't stop playing until I beat you.
It's a true.
Oh, my God.
They said Clark Dexter was better than me, so I'm going to give him a lot of points today.
Detroit is mean to me.
The bad boys are bullies.
I'm going to lift some weights so I can be a bully too.
Oh, my God.
It's so true.
Oh, it's so true.
Dennis Roman keeps leaving my party time.
Like, I might have blame for that, Phil.
I'm going to go home if Phil's not here.
Why does Jerry keep trying to treat my teammate?
He trying to treat my best teammate.
Scotty's my best teammate.
I don't even play with my friends.
It's so true.
It is so true.
I'm going to play baseball.
Oh, my God.
Dude.
That's so funny.
Did we just lose all respect for MJ 30 seconds?
It's very easy to flip it.
Dude, Bill Limber is a legit bad boy, dude.
Yo, that's a motherfucker that's about it.
That's alpha.
I love that Isaiah wants his good PR and Bill Lambert's like, whatever, bro.
Stop whining.
I'm going to go coach women's basketball.
Dude, that's what he did.
That's what I know.
He's whining.
Yo, dude, Bill Lambert coaches women's basketball and he said that MJ and them are whining.
Think about that.
Yo, that's how much Adiva's NBA players are.
He's like, let me just coach some lesbians.
I can't handle this shit.
Fucking unbelievable.
I can't deal with these attitudes anymore.
I try to fuck with the ringer.
There's two or three writers I like sports-wise, but everything culture, it's always some uber liberal bullshit.
And like, there are fucking rap critics, maybe vanilla changes, but before it was just white women talking about rap.
Shakespeare Meets Lil Wayne00:04:42
And I was like, who the fuck?
You're the last demographic this is meant for.
The actual last demographic that should be critically responding to an album.
Two, what's it called?
To fucking Lil Wayne or whoever.
Like Drake will drop an album and she'll compare him and whoever the fuck.
I hate that.
When they try to intellectualize the rap.
Stop it, bitch.
You can do your fucking college thesis on rap.
I hate that shit.
You know what they're like teaching courses on like Tupac or B?
Oh, suck my fucking dick.
Yo, stop it.
Stop it.
You look so good.
I suck on your daddy's dick.
You really need to break that fucking line down?
You need to break that line down.
We need a college course to figure out you look so good.
I suck on your daddy's dick.
That's complicated, man.
Is it?
She looked good.
In today's class, we will be dissecting.
That's why I sucked your, that's why I fucked your bitch, you fat motherfucker.
Come on, dude.
Stop over-intellectualizing.
That's what Tupac meant when he said that.
You really meant.
Even Shakespeare, we don't need to break down.
Bro, I don't like you saying Shakespeare.
Shakespeare.
Thank you.
You're right.
But even Shakespeare, like, why are we breaking down Shakespeare?
It's the same story over and over again.
Oh, shrouded in nobility.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Stop being shrouded, pussy.
Unshroud.
That's what I'm saying, yo.
Over here, Bill Simmons.
And that's what Bill Simmons is a shrouded-ass motherfucker when you think about it.
Yo, real talk, what did Shakespeare do that was so interesting?
I mean that.
I mean, he invented mad words.
Do we know that?
I think so.
You know who else invented mad words?
E40?
We don't give a fuck.
That's it.
You know who invented mad words?
Spanish people?
That wasn't a language at one point in time.
Oh, you write out.
You made Spanish.
You write up that.
You made the whole language, son.
It was not even Spanish.
And then some motherfuckers like, I'm tired of speaking Latin.
We're going to do Spanish now.
Okay?
Mad people invent words.
So what?
Shakespeare, overrated.
What did he do besides make little teenagers fuck?
Pedophile ass?
That's all right.
What?
Yo, he was really.
You did say that loud.
When you think about it Shekenspeare was the first TikTok.
That's all Romeo and Juliet was.
Fucking TikToking for the balcony.
Wherefore art thou up here, bitch?
Up here, stupid ass in my room.
Where else would I be?
Ain't shit to do?
Not like there's arcades.
Where the fuck else would I be?
Wherefore art thou, Romeo?
I'm down here, bitch.
Or I'm at my house.
There's no wasn't shit to do.
Where were they?
Where were they?
Bitch, don't act like you don't know where he is.
What could you do back in the day?
I'm just walking around doing nothing because nothing was invented yet.
You got that shit backward.
I think she was on the balcony.
It don't matter.
But still, though, he's stalking you.
When you go out in your balcony, wherefore you right there?
That's creepy.
It's creepy, but Romeo, Romeo, wherefore out thou, Romeo?
That's cool.
He's 13.
Where else the fuck you think he is?
Stop acting like you're really confused about where your man might be.
There was three places to be.
He was in the Montague house, right?
Was he Montague or Capulet?
One of them.
He was one of them.
He was either in House of Montague, at school, or in the bushes looking for your bitch ass.
There were three places.
Did you bother looking down, bitch?
You know what I was saying?
It's Mad Easy just looked down.
Hey, where for out thou?
Before you go, wherefore aren't thou?
Is he out down?
Hey, you out thou?
Are you out thou?
Are you out thou?
You know what I mean?
This fucking guy, bro.
Shakespeare, all this credit.
Did nobody else have any stories back in the day?
I don't think so, yo.
It was a dry ass time, bro.
How we go from the Odyssey to Shakerspir.
Remember the Odyssey?
Odyssey, singing bitches.
Singing bitches, they fuck you and suck your dick.
This fucking sucked your dick right off.
You on the island with just bitches.
Killing mad motherfuckers at your house, trying to fuck your girl.
Trying to fuck your wife.
That shit is engaging.
I'll fuck your bitch, you Ulysses ass motherfucker.
That's why.
You Greek motherfucker.
You Greek motherfucker.
That's the original Tupac.
Let's do a story about that.
I think they did.
You know what I'm saying?
Put a Trojan horse up in your bitch.
Nah, you're right, though.
Was it Ulysses?
Ulysses.
Killer than Shakespeare.
Son, Homer.
Homer.
Homer, that's the guy.
First of all, he didn't even need to write it down.
All up here.
Son, Jason.
Jason Jay, one take home.
What happened?
I got you.
One take home, yo.
That's it.
One take home.
They called him one take homes back in the day.
Yo, what's up?
This is Akash.
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