Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh dissect vaccine timelines, Trump's potential misinformation tactics, and Jason Pierre-Paul's reckless Ferrari accident. They mock Matthew Stafford's math skills while debating the NBA's cancellation versus NFL safety protocols. The hosts analyze Sam Cooke's legacy, critique Draymond Green's insecurity, and explore how shame culture might radicalize individuals compared to Daryl Davis's conversational approach. Ultimately, they argue that political motivations often stem from feeling understood rather than pure racism, challenging simplistic narratives of blame. [Automatically generated summary]
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Why Vaccines Take So Long00:09:23
Do we got a vaccine yet or no?
You out of your fucking mind, yo.
Did we got it or no?
No, dog.
Not for another year and a half, bro.
That's the thing.
Why does it take so long for vaccines?
Can you explain that to me?
I mean that.
We're going to start this episode eventually, but why does it take so long?
You got to test it to make sure it don't kill motherfuckers.
What?
Okay.
Okay, but how long does it take to kill you?
Like, boom, you test it?
Theoretically, it could take a couple months.
You get it, and then you think you're fine, and then some other shit happens, and all of a sudden, if that's not how it works.
I mean, 30 people just tested disinfectants, and we know that don't work.
What does it not work for?
I mean, it kills you.
It does it.
It probably kills the virus also.
That's all he said.
Let me ask you a question.
Was he wrong?
He said, no, no, man.
He said he's asking if it will kill the virus.
If you're dead, can the virus live in you?
Nah, I can't, Drew.
That's how you kill the virus.
At what cost are you willing to stop Corona?
I'm just saying.
You got to hit men.
Are you a soldier?
Are you not?
He's not wrong.
I'm not.
Joe Biden out here eating applesauce.
What?
You want him to help you with the fucking cure to Corona?
Joe Biden more likely to eat a bat than he is to be the president.
Oh, goofy ass motherfucker.
But in all seriousness, the way you do stop the virus, the real vaccine is if you have detergent.
Is death.
Is death.
You know what I mean?
Everybody who died no longer got it.
And they can't spread it.
They can't spread it.
That's how you stop the spread.
Yo, stop doing the work of the mainstream media, Al.
What you want to do is spread the virus.
Man, I'm listening to too much New York Times and shit.
Yo, Al's too smart, bro.
I'm tired of this shit, dog.
This motherfucker coming every day with all the information, all the answers.
What'd you tell me today?
All the antibody tests, like only three or 14 of them actually work.
What?
There's 14 companies.
He is so angry.
I don't know.
Okay, I thought antibodies were the guys throwing the milkshakes at people in Portland.
Ain't that like the nerd?
That is probably how they built this skinny ass vegans antibodies.
Antibodies.
No.
Hey, bro.
Antibodies.
Asian bitches.
Yo, that would be funny, though, if Trump came out and was like, but does it kill it, though?
He just said, does it kill it, though?
What if he just wants to not be president?
He's like, let me just get rid of these motherfuckers.
Keep voting for me, yo.
Just get him out of here.
Yo, that's hilarious.
Wait, you're saying, what if he's saying all this shit so he doesn't win?
Yeah, so like, he just kills his fan base.
You know what I mean?
Just, hey, guys, you listen to everything I say.
You want to beat Corona?
Lysol in your veins, yo.
Just get this shit.
It cures it.
Everybody starts doing it.
Everybody starts dying that's going to vote for him.
And that was like, hey.
That's hilarious.
This whole time, Trump has been trying to not be president.
I'm telling you.
He doesn't want to be president.
The whole time.
Like, he's like, yeah, I grabbed the pussy.
They won't vote for me now.
He just doesn't.
Hey, bro, I'm not going to do nothing even though we got a global pandemic, right?
The global pandemic comes over and it's like, fuck it.
I don't know.
And he's like, the only way I cannot be president if all them die.
I got to kill him.
I got to kill him.
Open up Michigan.
Open him more.
It's another state that I win.
Open him up, Virginia.
What the fuck?
He's only opening up the states where people vote for him.
He's not opening up New York.
He's not opening up California.
Holy shit, Trump don't want to be president.
He ain't wanted it since the jump, yo.
He never wanted.
He just wanted to be famous.
He just won a new show.
His shit got canceled.
Yep.
And now it's like, what is it when, what's that episode of Seinfeld where the Larry David character, what's his name?
Yeah, George.
George Costana does the opposite and everything works out.
We're living in that episode of the fucking of Seinfeld.
Yeah, he's the president is the opposite.
Oh my God, guys.
He doesn't want to be president.
I don't.
He doesn't want to be president.
I figured it out, man.
Holy shit.
He does, yo.
I really don't.
Some of them are out here like, I'm not going to war.
Like, he's doing everything presidents are not supposed to do.
He's not going to war.
What else has he done?
Hey, you know what?
They probably won't elect a racist.
Fuck it.
He's probably like, you know what?
There's no way they elect a racist.
Let me say some racist shit.
No, we got a long line of racist presidents.
Not openly.
Back in the day, back in the day, but not recent history.
Ah, you're right.
You're right.
You're right.
They were woke.
They were like playing jazz and shit.
1800s is just playing to the crowd.
You know what I mean?
But there's always slaves really make you racist, though.
Does owning slaves really make you racist?
I say the things you can't.
I'm listening.
All right, go.
Make the argument, Al.
Make the argument, Al.
Go, Al.
What's the argument?
Maybe you love black people so much you collect them.
I don't dislike Jordan.
I collect those.
I love Jordan.
Oh, fucking dying.
We were just the first Pokemon.
Yo, there's a really funny joke here I can't say.
Yeah.
Not Charizard, but.
Dude, that's crazy.
But would you?
If you had the opportunity to have slaves, it was completely legit.
The only people who were against it were the slaves.
Mark just grabbed his microphone.
She's like, I'd like to chime in.
When I brought this up last week, I was racist.
How did the tides turn so?
You can't say it, Mark.
No, I would diversify my slaves, though.
You would diversify your slaves.
You wouldn't make it a racial thing.
Yeah, it's not a race thing.
It's like, hey, where's your talents?
Okay, so who would you have for picking, let's say?
Because who's the most talented at everything?
It depends.
I can be your math slave.
That's about it.
There we go.
So you're going to be math slave.
Okay, math slave, done.
Okay.
So what do you, what does the math slave do?
Just count all the other slaves you make?
They don't work.
Massa, all 47 of them are here to count for it.
I think everything's good to go.
Can I go to sleep now?
No, but for real, like, what would you do?
How would you diversify your slaves?
Go.
So I'm definitely needing Mexican slaves for building shit.
Okay.
You need the Jewish slaves for, you know, the accounting and keeping my billing and all that type of stuff.
Jewish slave is going to take your whole shit.
You better be careful, yo.
Yeah, you're about to get Sam cooked out here with me.
Sam cooked out here, bro.
Yeah, but who else?
Italian slave for food.
You might need an Italian slave for food.
Definitely Mediterranean.
Something Mediterranean for food.
Food and pastries.
We'll have a few different of them.
Like depending on the day of the week.
Okay.
We got to switch up the food.
Okay, now here's the thing.
We're not eating pasta every day.
You're right, and that's smart.
Here's the thing.
You need to turn a profit or else you can't afford the slaves.
What are you going to do?
How are you going to turn a profit on these slaves?
Right now, they're just serving you.
You're going to need a profit.
What are you doing?
How are you paying for them?
They're expensive.
They're like cars.
Each one got a mortgage.
They're not expensive.
Not signed.
They were mad expensive back in the day.
You got to house them.
You got to feed them.
Health insurance, bro.
I mean.
You have to pay their health care.
You know how expensive health care is?
For real.
You do it and you got to sew them back up.
Someone got to sew them back up.
If they can't work, you lose money.
Right?
We coming dangerously close to the business.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
You can't keep talking about how you pay ass health care.
And then say slaves get health care.
I got uncomfortable.
I'm not uncomfortable.
You got to pay them handsomely.
You know what I mean?
You got to put them in corners.
You know, you got to pay for their lodging.
I just want to point out, I never said I would have them.
Oh, you guys the only ones just leaving us out of the way?
Because you employ time.
Because they're paying people to pass.
Because by your definition, you might be able to take out the word wood.
That's what I'm saying.
You're talking about fucking giving them health care.
No, what?
You just got to have them utilize their talents.
You know, film things for you.
Y'all got real specific.
Like, you've been fantasizing about this shit.
Not for real, though.
You know?
Ah, gosh.
What would I do?
Yeah.
I need a few white slaves just to laugh at.
So what would you make them do?
You're trying to Dougie.
Yeah.
Tragic Situations and Rings00:04:00
It's like, dance, boy.
And see the uncoordinated ass trying to dance.
That's actually more demeaning because if they were like this, boy, to a black guy, the white slave owners, they'd probably make he really good, though.
Yeah, it's like he's going to dance.
He's assholes.
But you would be like, yo, you guys see, this is so funny how bad he is.
It would be even more cruel.
There you go.
Look how he's off rhythm.
Look at that.
He danced into the melody this fucking day.
He's trying to tap this.
It looks like that's just stump.
Remember that garbage movie?
Something like playing with garbage?
Yeah, that was the richest shit ever.
These fucking guys playing trash cans.
Go to the subway station at Times Square.
It's the same person there.
Oh, yeah.
Way better, too.
All right, maybe we should start the episode.
Anyway, guys, listen, I didn't want to start it like this.
This was up to you guys.
This is what happens when you get off the rails.
Talking about off the rails, Jason Pierre Paul was in a car accident.
Did you guys see it?
Wait, before I say anything about this, did he die?
Because I don't know if he died.
I'm going to be honest.
I just thought it was so funny.
This guy ruined his career again in the offseason.
But what happened to him?
Because I do have things I'd like to say, but I want to make sure he's alive.
Let me get the exact amount of money that he spent on his car, right?
$350,000 Ferrari.
Okay.
He wrecked it, and there's a picture of him wearing a neck brace, which is just kind of.
Okay, but he's okay.
But he's alive.
Okay.
If you guys don't know who Jason Pierre Paul is, he's an NFL player.
He had some fireworks blow up in his hands.
Now his hand looks like ginger root.
Oh, fuck.
And that's probably why he crashed a car.
This hand looked like a steering wheel now.
This shit avenger-ass hand.
It does.
It does.
So, and now he's gotten into yet another tragic situation.
I think that this guy, do you think he's one of those people where it's like, what was that movie where you can't escape death?
Oh, fuck.
Final Fantasy.
No, Final Destination.
Do you think that's what's happening with him?
Yo, maybe, but I also think like, so apparently they don't suspect he was under the influence of drugs or alcohol.
Was he under the influence of not having enough fingers to hold the wheel?
That's my point.
He was driving a $350,000 Ferrari at 3 a.m.
You know, you can't control this powerful ass car the way you need to.
You just have to be locked in like a sloth.
You can drive a $300,000 car like this.
You might even have a fucking eagle behind the wheel, yo.
Just talons.
What you doing, man?
Get a fucking auto.
Get a Tesla with auto potatoes.
You got to get a picture up of this guy's hand.
It's absolutely hilarious, dude.
It's so funny.
And he fucked up his hand.
You want to have sushi and then take a bite out of it in between each roll.
And the story.
Look at that.
Son, that looked like a cigar bar.
Look like the ashtray at a cigar bar, yo.
So he fucked up his hand.
This is why we also don't feel as bad for him.
He fucked up his hand messing with fireworks.
And right before everything happened, he took a picture of his van full of fireworks on the 4th of July.
And this is right after signing this massive contract.
He just signed a big contract.
He was a huge factor in the Super Bowl.
Like, your whole life is ahead of you.
And then you blow off your hand playing with thousands of dollars worth of fireworks.
Does he have a ring?
Did he win a ring?
He did win a ring.
He won a ring.
He didn't win a ring.
It's gone.
The ring is gone.
It's somewhere with the fireworks.
Made him a little more glittery, I guess.
But yeah, that's why it's just like, yo, man, why you keep being reckless in the offseason?
You don't need no $350,000 Ferrari with one good hand.
Yeah.
Get a fucking driver.
Enjoy that.
Spend money on that.
Yeah.
I mean, they're football players.
Like, we can't assume they're smart.
You can't.
You really can't.
We just got to start shaming football players into feeling insecure about their decision-making so that they're that buttoned up about what they do.
Yeah, and I used to think you were too hard on football players after signing this horrendous bargaining agreement again that they signed.
They just need to be shamed.
Blowing Off Hands for Fireworks00:03:26
You're right.
They need to be shamed.
You need to know you're fucking idiots.
You know how like hot blonde girls have this insecurity that people are going to think they're dumb because most of them are dumb.
Yeah.
Right.
We need that same thing to go to football players.
Yeah.
Because if you meet like a hot, or even hot girls in general, if you meet a hot girl that's smart, she will, she knows that you think that about her.
And then she's making sure that she's like well read.
She understands what's going on.
She's like, I'm not going to be a stereotype that everybody thinks just because I'm hot.
I'm going to be stupid.
And NFL players don't have that just yet.
So we need to bully them into realizing it.
Like you showed me some video or you retweet some video of Matthew Stafford doing math.
He's incredible.
Come on, bro.
I don't think they're ever going to get.
They're still making money.
You're never going to have the need to be.
Why is that not impressive?
What?
Why is that not impressive?
He guessed.
So guessed.
Have you seen the video I retweeted to Matthew Stafford?
Oh, when he did the...
The guy gives me two big-ass numbers, like 6,525 by 4,100, whatever.
I think that's what I'm saying.
And he just doesn't.
It is.
He just figured it out.
It's called multiplication.
No, no, no.
But I mean, like, how you know if people didn't.
I don't think he's just multiplying into set.
I'm pretty sure.
Well, there's a trick.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
There's a shortcut.
Yeah.
Still impressive.
Nah, not really.
You know, a shortcut is not that impressive.
It's not as impressive.
Whatever.
I'm tired of these motherfuckers, bro.
All right, good duck.
No, because there is some important shit.
Now, he's impressed the fucking football player knows that do math better than him.
That's what I'm saying.
You don't think they should impress me?
That's why he's.
They should impress me.
You can't do math?
Not like that.
25 times three.
God, he got that shit quick.
This motherfucker is Asian, bro.
You are fucking Aijong.
All right, let me do some more Matthew, right?
Yeah.
All right, ready?
76 divided by four.
19.
I'm still figuring it out.
That's it.
That's it.
It's 80 divided by four would be 20.
Take away four more.
That's what I did.
That was fucking good.
All right, last one.
Mad pressure right now.
You ready?
Man pressure.
It's going down.
This one's going down, right?
This is for your Indianness.
Okay, man.
You're not Indian.
If you get this wrong, you're Bangladesh.
For real.
You're Bangladesh if you get this wrong.
Bangladesh.
You're Bangladesh.
Let's go.
Okay, ready?
All right.
224.
No, sorry.
244 squared.
Ooh, fuck, yo.
Stupid fucking idiot.
Fucking retard.
Dude, you don't know this already?
I know this shit.
This is mad easy, dumb fuck.
12.
Damn, son.
Come on, bro.
244.
That's the square root, yo.
And it's the square root of 144.
I know what you would think.
Damn it, I know.
I knew what he was talking about.
I was like, please, he thought he got taken down.
Please, he's not taking that.
I should have corrected you because I'm like, no, I wasn't even taking it.
You got it wrong twice.
I knew he was taking 144.
I knew it.
You met square root and you met 144.
You bangling dead shoes.
I called him retarded Matt.
Oh, is that your kidney?
Math Mistakes and Comfortable Clothes00:03:48
This ain't easy, yo.
This is how stupid I am.
I went 224.
No, no, no.
244.
I was like, oh, I got him.
Oh, I got him.
I got this dumb motherfucker.
No way he could come for me on 244.
Bro, bro.
And then I started thinking in my head.
I was like, wait, it's 2912.
I started doing the short math of it.
I was like, I don't know if it got that.
I don't know if it gets that far.
What's 244?
What is that one?
How the fuck were you going to calculate that one?
Don, he was going.
This guy was working.
That shit was like, dude, bro.
Squared, though.
Yeah.
That's 244 times 244.
Oh, that's easy.
863, 429.
Let's go.
Next segment.
Come on, Jay Cutler.
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Yeah.
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All right, Jay Cutler.
I don't know nothing about Kristen Cavalieri except her name.
Quarantine Moves and Jay Cutler00:07:35
And she's on a reality show.
Uh-huh.
And they got divorced.
And this was people going crazy on Twitter.
Why do you think they got divorced?
So that he didn't kill his whole fucking family when that CT sets in.
You don't think this bitch was timing it?
He's just been in the fucking living room mumbling shit to himself.
You know what's funny, though?
I think she probably got more money than him, I assume.
They were on a reality show.
She was on the hills or whatever that shit was when we were in school.
Okay.
And then they had their own reality show together.
And then she made money through like, you know, various ventures, but he was making NFL contracts.
This motherfucker was paid.
What?
The way y'all spent y'all childhood?
This is what you were watching?
Yeah.
What were you doing this whole time?
Outside, riding a bike.
Oh, riding bikes.
You riding with your arms while your legs look like.
Son, outside dad.
You know why we had to stay inside?
Because people like you were outside.
That's why.
Okay?
That's why we were inside.
That's when New York was a great place, man.
Son, New York was wild.
You think that New York was more dangerous before Corona?
Way more dangerous, like just being out.
Like in the 90s?
Yeah.
Before 99, New York was this shit.
Yeah, it might have been the shit, but it was way more dangerous.
They didn't tell us to stay inside.
You weren't safe inside either.
So we would come to your house and rob your fucking house.
Go on, you just stay inside.
You're fine.
You stay inside.
There was a fucking citywide panic, pandemic.
Yeah, but a little dangerous fun.
I'm not against it.
I'm just saying, we making a big deal about this Corona shit for no reason.
I'm so tired of me.
I don't tire it.
Son, is the curve flat yet?
Is the curve flat?
I got Mr. Flat in the city.
You just started opening shit up slowly.
Al and I were talking about this because he listens to the daily.
Yeah.
And I guess lets Al listen to the daily and then absorbs all that shit.
So he kind of listens to the daily.
All the news I get is from motherfuckers who watch news.
Swear to God, you know, I'll be looking up news.
You're just playing news telephone?
I'll be doing topics and I check ESPN and TMZ.
I get from motherfuckers who watch news.
Yo, can I be honest, though?
Akash's topics have been on fire lately.
Your topics used to be trash.
It used to be like just like you would go to the first four things on ESPN and bring it.
And then once we were like, yo, mix it up with like the random stories, you would come with kind of going to TMZ.
TMZ is a news.
TMZ Twitter be having the topic, yo.
You having the topic.
And I know Akash don't read the story because it'd just be like, UFOs?
Question mark, question mark, question mark.
Why are you not in question marks?
Tell us what's happening with the UFOs.
Because that's a real news story.
And y'all have source for news.
He basically threw it out here like, yo, y'all heard about this?
Y'all.
I'm the one.
Y'all had to educate me on this so I could get a take after you tell me what's going on on the daily.
Maybe we should have waited y'all tomorrow's episode before the podcast.
He's like, oh, you watch the news.
Like, yeah, what's going on with the UFO?
Yo, real talk.
That's why I just put this in the future.
He's like, you saw that yesterday?
I don't even pretend to know.
Come on.
Y'all already know what that UFO shit is.
Don't front.
I think we had the same idea.
I tried to read it, but here's the other thing.
I think I need some digital for me.
What do you think?
I already know what it is.
What would you think of this?
Distraction.
Huh?
Distraction.
Nope.
Go, Alf.
What do you think of this?
How do you think?
What do you think of this?
I agree with Akash.
Sheep.
Oh, boy.
Y'all are sheep, bro.
I thought you were saying it was sheep.
It's like flying sheep.
All right.
Yo, is your red pill?
You want to know what it is?
Red pillows right now.
I'll tell y'all what it is.
Kim Jong-un space.
That's Kim Jong motherfucking own.
Yes.
Yes, son.
That's Kim.
Kim Jong-un coming back.
These are red pill motherfuckers.
Kim Jong-un on a different level.
He was dead.
He went out to the galaxy.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Keep going.
Got it back.
Got it back.
Okay.
Came back with a quickness before they gave his sister the fucking reins.
Bro, that makes sense.
Which Korea is closest to space?
The North World!
The North?
When you're not going to go to space from South Korea?
So far, bro.
That shit is way further.
You got to go south north.
Exactly.
Unless you go under it, Columbus style.
First of all, y'all know that's bullshit because the Earth is flat.
So she's going up either way.
Earth's not flat.
Kim Jong's face is.
No, in all seriousness, that's Kim Jong-un.
No worries.
Yo, you can't hold him down, bro.
Yo, my man.
You cannot stop that.
Bro, what does UFO stand for?
Oon identify.
Fucking object.
Oon identify flying object.
Boom.
It's an unidentified object.
Yo.
Oh, flying is better than fucking.
I was trying to find out what the acronym would be.
I was like, Oon fucking object, bro.
That's a great name for that shit.
Nah, but in all seriousness, Oon is back, baby.
Are you sure?
Because you can't kill what's already dead.
You said, are you sure?
Like, you know.
Yeah, I know.
He's saying it like he knows.
Yo, I know.
Kim Jong-un is back.
Why you say that?
Yeah, you think it's a coincidence that he came back the same day the Rodman shit dropped?
That, yo.
Oh, oh, oh.
Dude, think about it, bro.
I'm going to be honest, when Al plays that sound effect, the joy that goes through his body is in his soul.
Oh, yes.
Like it's in his soul.
Sign up a DJ in that one second.
That one in particular, though, you get so fucking giddy.
But in all seriousness, you can't stop Kim Jong-un.
He's going to be here forever.
That's what he is.
Yo, I mean, yeah, he could be around forever.
He's Asian.
He's Asian.
That's my motherfucking guy.
You know what I mean?
Shout out to Un, bro.
We might have to go to North Korea.
He's numero Uno, yo.
Yo, kill dog.
Think about it.
Think about it.
Should we go to North Korea?
We could do that.
Could we?
I'd go.
You could go.
There's trips.
I'd go.
Rodman came back.
Yeah, but that's Rodman, yo.
Son.
What's the difference?
You've seen Rodman?
Kim Jong-un loves Rodman.
What if we go there and then we win his heart?
We could try to win his heart.
We can send him some videos.
I bet if we send him this video, he'd be like, you know what?
These guys are all right.
You just got to scour the rest of your shit.
sure there's no jokes about the man i think that he could take a joke i think that he has an exceptional sense of humor this is where this is where i thought trends diverge really you think he has an exceptional trend i think he has an exceptional sense of humor go quite a funny prank he played on us okay right it's not it's pretty good as far as pranks go faking your own death is pretty good that's it he was just playing peekaboo yo that's a great political leader to fake your own death Son,
Machiavelli.
Winning Kim Jong-uns Heart00:14:12
Sometimes you got to do that to see how much the people really fuck with you.
You know what I mean?
You fake your own death and you see all your mans right there that said they loved you and then they're out there like, nah, fuck that guy.
I'm glad he's dead.
His sister's way better.
Oh, word?
Oh, word?
A young Tom Sawyer on him.
Was that Huckleberry Finn or Tom?
I can't remember, bro.
I think it's Huck Finn.
I think my man Hux did that to him.
Hux was chilling at his own funeral.
Yo, Hux was chilling, watching it go down.
Huckleberry Finn.
Yo.
Huckleberry Kim, bro.
Huckleberry Kim.
Huckleberry Kim out here, dog.
Yo.
Hey, all I got to say is the guy's ahead of his time.
Yo, man.
Listen.
Listen, put some respect on him.
That's all I'm trying to say.
Put a little bit of respect.
Try to see it from his eyes.
That's hard to do.
Yeah, that's fuck with him because he drinks honey.
He's on the honey watch.
He has the honey coming in.
He's a big hip-hop fan.
Maybe his wife faked his own death.
He listened to Tupac Machiavelli.
And he's like, you know what?
I'm going to do this.
Hey, Biggie, born again.
Oh, shit.
Life after death.
He's about to drop that double disc.
Oh, man.
You know what's coming.
I'm just saying, guys, if anybody got to connect to Kim Jong-un, holler at us because we want to talk to him.
Oh, also, another thing that we should tell everybody real quick.
First of all, if you guys see the plaque in the back, that Flagrant 2 100,000 subscriber plaque.
Let's go.
Thank y'all.
Thank you.
We hit that shit because of y'all.
That was amazing the speed that we were able to get to that.
Also, Flagrant 2, Instagram, fucking Instagram have been, they took down our page.
Yeah.
Some fucking cornball hacked our page and they messed it up.
So we're going to start another one.
What's another one?
I think we might do same handle because it's available.
Can we?
We can.
Okay, so let's choose that right now so people can subscribe because I'm about to tell you.
That's it right now.
I bet.
So it will be Flagrant 2 Pod.
Yeah, Flagrant 2 Pod.
Let me just make it.
Okay, we'll verify in a second.
But basically, yo, go to Instagram, get us back to where we were, man.
If you're listening right now, I know you got your phone right next to it.
Just go subscribe to our shit, man.
We really appreciate that.
We were at, you know, a lot of followers there before, and it's easy for us to push out more content through those.
And it just makes you look legit.
You know, you say you got a podcast.
You don't even have an Instagram account.
You look kind of crazy.
Yo, we should use it as our fensters.
And so all of us say wild shit off it, but you don't know who's speaking.
So then we can get anything off and nobody knows.
Nobody knows who said it.
Ooh, these M-words gonna fly.
I might drop a cracker in there once or twice.
Okay.
I'm okay with that.
Also, I got to say thank you, man.
We hit a million subs, man, on the Andrew Schultz YouTube page.
So everybody that helped us get there.
Yeah.
Thank you guys so much for doing it, man.
That's massive.
That's a massive move right there for independent media.
Real independent media.
Huge.
That's crazy.
Million subscribers is crazy.
It's wild, man.
It was an accomplishment.
I felt amazing about.
Alex, thank you so much for being on this journey with me, man.
I appreciate you so much.
Mark, thank you so much for being on this journey with me, man.
Thank you guys so much.
And Greg Schultz, man, you started it with me.
So I got to shout out my brother, Greg Schultz.
And yeah, man, it was just such a cool thing to have happen.
A million fucking subscribers, man.
That is unreal.
So next step, 10 million.
Keep on doing it.
Keep on checking it.
We got some cool content coming out on there.
And yeah, if you haven't checked it out already, go check out the, I think we're going to call it Schultz or the Andrew Schultz show or Andrew Schultz show or something like that.
We got these cool rants that we've been doing.
It's like, you know, the things that you would see like Trevor Noah or John Oliver doing, but actually funny.
Yeah.
Okay.
Got it.
I think you'd say it's what I was going to say for you.
Yo, we are at Flagrant.
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We were doing these rants and we just felt like, you know, we were sitting around.
We were like, yo, man, you can't even trust anything these motherfuckers say.
You know, it's like, every time I watch one of these motherfuckers talk or do their little rants, I'm like, you don't feel that way.
This is how the corporation you work for has told you to feel.
And we're in this time where like news is so fucking biased and information in general is so fucking biased.
And I just feel like, you know, we just sat down.
We're like, why don't we just do this but funny, but not have anybody telling us what we can or can't talk about, who we can or can't talk about.
And we released a couple and they just fucking exploded, man.
It was unreal.
So I think there is a need for it in the market.
The same way when we started Flagrant 2, there was a need to kind of push back against the phony political correctness.
And I feel like that same phoniness exists in the information that they feed us.
So we're going to say, fuck all that.
And we're going to body these motherfuckers, put our foot in their goddamn necks.
You ready, Al?
Mark, you ready?
Yeah.
Akash, you ready?
Hell yeah.
Yeah, no.
What do you say?
You ready?
Yeah.
Okay.
Let's get back to the show.
There was a big NFL draft.
Akash, how did you feel about this?
You were bullish on it.
Yo, the NFL is, they're the GOATs, man.
It's the GOAT League.
They're the fucking winners all the time.
And honestly, we should stop hating on them and respect it because they're just the best.
Why?
Everybody else during quarantine is Davis Stern, cancel games.
One guy got Corona.
Adam Silver, Adam Silver.
Adam Silver.
Adam Silver.
Cancel games.
We're not doing it.
Whatever, I get it.
But then you have nothing.
Pussy.
Mass.
Roger Goodell was like, nah, man, we're going to do this.
We're going to do this.
We're not going to endanger anybody, but we're going to do this.
You're not going to get your normal pro day where you go see whoever.
Go like this.
Keep going.
I didn't get it.
You're not going to get your normal pro day where you get to go see every prospect, whatever.
But we're going to have this fucking draft.
There's a drought of content.
We could put out content.
And they did a draft where everybody's like the whole, normally you have like a war room for the NFL draft of a team does where like all the coaches are in one room and they're deliberating players and you have the whole clock.
They was like, no, we're not going to do that.
You're going to zoom each other and then we're going to zoom in our picks just like SportsNet has been doing.
And not only did they have massive ratings, like day three of the draft, which is where you're getting players most people have never heard of, they usually get like four or five, maybe six million viewers on day three of a draft.
This year they had 8.5 million.
Whoa.
Massive.
And everybody loved the format.
They were like, yo, this is honestly low-key better.
Why?
Why is it better?
Because it's just not as much fucking bullshit.
I didn't watch because I don't watch the draft.
I'll listen to the ticket because I'm just like, I don't care about fucking seeing fans every time he come back from commercial.
This time there was none of the bells and whistles.
Just, hey, here's the pick.
Roger Goodell announces it.
It's also funny because he's not used to announcing past the first round, but he did the whole thing this time, which is like, if you add it up, it's like 24 hours and three days, probably.
He's fucking drunk by the end of the second night.
Legitimately, everybody thinks he's drunk.
I sent you a topic where people are looking into it.
And it's just no bullshit.
Then as soon as the pick comes in, the analysts talk about it and then they're done.
The one thing that was apparently annoying is like they would have a sob story for pretty much every prospect.
Like when he was four years old, his father died of leukemia and they got the piano.
Other than that, everybody's like, yo, this is the best it's ever been to the point that it's kind of a problem for the NFL because they make a lot of money going from city to city and doing the draft.
I went when it was in Philly because wife used to live out there and I was like, let's go.
Hundreds of like thousands of people there making money, but everybody likes this better.
Right.
So in the quarantine, not only did you put out a product that people like, they like it better.
Your ratings are record high.
You'll make more money of doing this, though.
I think you could make more money because you're not spending anything.
More people are watching.
You don't even need a studio.
Double ratings, no cost.
And you air all five rounds of it instead of just one or two, what they would do originally.
No, they always aired all rounds, but the first round, the first night is round one.
Right.
The second night is round two and three.
Right.
And then the third night is rounds four through seven.
My assumption is that the viewership would start to drop off.
It does.
And it still does.
But every night, I'm pretty sure they said records.
And the third night was like, the third day was like, I'm a big football fan, big draft fan, and I'll go live my life and keep up.
But a lot of people were just fucking tuned in this time.
I love it.
Because there's nothing else to do.
I love it.
And the NFL saw that and they said, we're going to go win.
There's go-go.
The NBA, I get you got to cancel a season.
I don't want to call them cucks.
Someone is so pussy.
I'll call them cucks.
We had to cancel shows.
So they got 10 times.
What's that guy to do with it?
What's that guy to do with it?
It's just a lot of people very close together.
Yes.
So what?
Look how high the ceiling is.
If one NBA player dies or gets seriously ill, it's a wrap.
These are the people most likely to survive Corona.
They have the best cardio.
They are in great shape.
How are you going to die of Corona?
You never know.
You know, the real issue is because these fucking idiots can't stop fucking bitches and flying them in.
If these fucking idiot athletes didn't stop, if they just stopped flying bitches in and fucking them, this would not be an issue.
They could just put them in a hotel.
They could all hang out in the hotel.
None of them would get Corona.
If they did, they'd still be healthy.
Everything would be fine.
So now you're asking for a lot.
So I know.
I'm just saying for a lot.
We could.
I'm just annoyed because we could have sports if they could just keep the dicks out of these bitches for a couple months.
And we should have with no, yeah, I'm with that.
And I'll also say this: you know what you could have done to fill the time?
The draft.
College basketball season's already canceled.
You're not going to have your fucking combine.
You don't have time for any of that.
Why don't you just do the draft?
You got all the tape you're going to have.
Give us something.
You gave us nothing.
NFL said, all right, this is not the season, but we're going to carry forward with the normal draft.
You don't need to do all the work.
And most people had a better draft.
Most teams, because normally you see a guy a thousand times, you start, you just overanalyze.
And if you look at everybody's draft like grades after, this year, outside of the Eagles, they're mostly pretty good.
Yeah.
Because you can't overthink it.
I got to see this guy on tape, and that's all I need to go on.
NBA could have done the same shit, and you didn't.
And the NFL wins.
And I'm tired of feeling sorry for players.
Y'all signed that shitty ass collective bargaining agreement.
Nobody took it to a lawyer.
I'm done feeling sorry for you.
That's it.
They're the GOAT league and they're continuing to be the GOATs.
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Yeah, I just feel like we could be having every sport right now if these athletes weren't fucking idiots.
Yeah, without fans, I would.
You don't need the fans there.
None of us are going to the games anyway.
I know.
We're watching it on TV.
So just play the fucking game on TV and don't fly bitches in, and everybody's fine.
But if you start flying bitches in, one of these fucking idiot girls is going to have Corona, and then she's going to go fly to another team, or she's going to go back to her fucking uncle's house.
Her uncle's going to end up dying and she's going to blame it on, you know, Draymond Green or something like that.
And then all of a sudden, the season's over.
If you could just isolate in a fucking hotel and we knew everybody didn't have Corona there, it'd be fine.
It's stupid that we don't have, we don't have a basketball season because these guys can't fuck not fuck girls.
That's the only reason.
And it would be more fun, I think.
It'd be cool to watch the playoffs with no fucking just once with no fans in the stands.
Like just them playing for the stakes of that game.
That'd be kind of dope to watch.
I would love to see how they respond.
There's no home court advantage anymore, which is kind of cool.
Like, you're all in one hotel.
Yeah.
One seed versus eight seed.
The amount of fights we would see, though, if all these motherfuckers are backed up and having fucked, it'd be madness competition.
He'll be the 90s.
This would be great.
People would actually swim.
Not swim.
Swing.
Yeah.
No, but they'd actually swing at each other.
Not all this pump-faking bullshit.
But they'd get in each other's face.
Like, let's go.
Yeah, we now.
Yeah, now they're hostile.
Oh, it'd be so fun.
That shit would be so fun.
It's just, it enrages me, bro.
Playoffs Without Fans in Stands00:07:50
I think I had too much coffee.
That shit just fucking hit me right there.
But yeah, it's like we could easily have a fucking season, man.
Let's have a fucking season.
What are we doing?
Why is Adam Silver such a pussy?
Only four people can be at the practice facility at one time.
What is going to happen?
What is the worst case scenario?
Did a 20-year-old get Corona and then he's back a week later?
If you got an old coach, don't let him go.
Simple as that.
Put a mask on, coach.
There's a way to do it.
There's a way to do it.
And if you don't want to have fans there, cool.
You want to do a hotel?
Cool.
Well, Al at the very least, he could give us a draft.
I know you're saying that, okay, because they're young and healthy, they should be able to beat it.
But there are still some, very few, but there are some young, healthy people that still die for no.
So the moment one basketball player dies, that organization's like, this is your fault for continuing the season.
No, that's valid.
We're getting middle ground.
That shit is worth it, bro.
That shit is worth it.
I can't watch no more videos on the Fed.
I can't.
I need some background.
Thank God for that.
I can't watch it.
Yeah, honestly, we need basketball back.
I can't even know his crazy theories.
I can't deal with it.
Guys, I'm too deep into fucking rabbits.
He's no rabbits in the fucking hole, bro.
I'm searching for him.
Son, he's so deep he's getting racially progressive.
What does that mean?
I love it.
Sam Cook.
I can't believe what they did to Sam Cook, man.
I love it.
I love that.
White man got him.
Yes.
That's what it's doing to you, yo.
We love it.
This is not the Andrew I know.
I thought Sam Cook is white.
I thought he was a white guy trying to help out black people.
You keep thinking that.
Yes.
Yes.
Nah, Sam Cook is the shit, yo.
Listen, go check out Sam Cook.
That was a documentary.
What was a documentary that you watched?
It's called The Two Killings of Sam Cook or something like that.
Okay.
On Netflix?
It's on Netflix.
And it's pretty good.
It's pretty good.
I'm not going to say it's fucking amazing.
It's pretty good.
Sam Cook is amazing.
Sam Cook is amazing.
And he's just got a fascinating story.
And if they ever try to take me out, it will be for that kind of stuff.
I promise you.
If they ever try to get your boy Schultze out of here, if I dive like a super random death, they took me out.
Same Sam Cook.
Why did he get taken out?
Say again?
Why did he get taken out?
Because this guy challenged the record industry.
And he was trying to empower these artists, man.
He was trying to empower artists.
And they fucking took his ass.
Black artists in particular.
Black artists in particular.
But I think it sets a precedent for all artists.
Like, if he brings black artists together, then I think all the rock artists start going, oh, shit, we should do that shit too.
So it's like he was about to be the first domino, you know?
And they bodied that motherfucker and they tried to act like he was the one trying to rape a girl.
Like they flipped the whole thing on him, man.
It's unbelievable.
And now his legacy is fucked because I was listening to his music and I'm like, wait, why is this guy?
Why don't we talk about Sam Cook in the same way that we talk about any other amazing artists from back in the day?
Like this guy had bangers.
I mean, hit after hit after hit.
Like I was thinking about that shit with, it's like now everybody who history looks upon poorly, I'm a little curious, right?
Now I'm not talking about Hitler and these motherfuckers, right?
But like I'm looking, even like an Andrew Jackson, like President Andrew Jackson, right?
They're like, oh my God, Andrew Jackson is such a racist.
He's a horrible guy, right?
And I'm like, all the presidents were racist back then.
They all had slaves.
You can't be more racist than having slaves.
Like until Abraham Lincoln, they were all racist.
He killed two races.
Say again?
He killed two races.
Let me tell you something.
You think them white people that own slaves were like, these Native Americans got some nice fucking hats.
Do you know what I'm saying?
They would have Native American slaves if they could.
They just couldn't.
Yeah, but maybe they weren't killing them as actively.
Son, they were out there killing them.
You just didn't know.
Right?
There was no Native American news network.
My perception of Andrew Jackson is history looked at him differently in the last like 15, 20 years.
I remember being young and nobody cared.
Put it like this.
The motherfuckers that write history.
Right?
The winners write history.
Like the way we look at World War II is America's the savior.
We did it all.
We were the ones that conquered them.
Without us, they would have been fucked this, that, the other.
We came in there, saved the day.
Nobody goes, oh, shit, 25 million Russians died in World War II.
Like most people don't even know that.
Most people know 6 million Jews died in World War II and nobody knows 25 million Russians.
I didn't even know that.
Froze to death.
Most of them just froze.
I didn't know that part.
Son, so it's like, but the way that you craft history is you got to make yourself look great if you won.
Yeah.
Right.
And that's how we should.
Because, hell yeah, let's go.
Why shouldn't we be the winners?
Why shouldn't we come and save the day?
And we did do some heroic shit.
I'm not saying we didn't.
But now I'm looking back at history and I'm like, oh, shit, why do I, why are we supposed to hate?
Why are we supposed to hate Andrew Jackson?
What the fuck did he do?
Of course, he's the guy who shut down the banks.
He got the central bank the fuck out of here.
And they remembered him very poorly because of it.
And then I look at Sam Cook and I'm like, wait a minute, I know all these songs.
I'm literally listening to Sam Cook on Spotify.
My girl just put it on.
We're just hanging around.
She's cooking.
We're just relaxing.
And every song is a banger.
I'm like, yo, who the fuck is this guy?
And she's like, Sam Cook.
He's like amazing.
I'm like, wait, what?
I know every song, but I don't know Sam Cook.
That's weird.
And we start Googling Sam Cook and Wikipedia.
And I'm like, they're like very sketchy death.
And I'm like, uh-oh.
We put on the Netflix.
I hit up Van Lake then and Charlamagne.
I'm like, yo, is Sam Cook the best musician ever?
What's going on?
He goes, yo, he's up there.
You should check out the documentary on Netflix.
They got this motherfucker out of here and tainted his legacy forever, dude.
Like, that's some crazy shit.
I'm saying we got to be skeptical over other people they tell us to hate, bro.
Is that the next one?
I told you it's called What Happened, Miss Simone?
Yeah.
Yeah.
On Nina Simone.
Check out that.
Yo, Nina Simone.
She's real.
Hey, man, she amazing songs.
Yeah.
Amazing songs.
A little rough on the face.
I'm waiting.
Everybody was waiting.
Son, amazing music.
She looked like Charlotte.
Amazing music.
Nina the God, bro.
Real time.
Dark-skinned Charlotte, light-skinned Charlotte.
Boom.
So Nina was out here struggling.
All due respect.
All due respect because the music is amazing.
Alder Zek's music is amazing.
But it was, you know, it was a different time.
That was a different time.
It was a different time.
It was a different time.
You know what I mean?
It was a different.
You were just listening to the music.
Ain't no music videos.
You know what I'm saying?
It was a different time.
That's the thing.
We don't want you to hear these fat bitches talking about how hard it is to be fat and be a musician.
There was ugly bitches making music way before you.
You know, these fat bitches, what's that fat bitch name?
Which one?
Adele?
The singing bitch.
Adele.
The black Adele.
Lizzo.
Lizzo.
I knew.
But like, we don't need to hear how hard it is for you.
There have been ugly people making music for years.
It's weird when we hear how hard it is for you and then everybody celebrates you for being fat.
I feel like you got to pick one at this point.
Pick one.
It's either hard to be fat or we all celebrate.
If it's hard to be fat, we could judge you for being fat and that proves that it's hard to be fat.
Boom.
But if it's beautiful to be fat, it was hard and now it's great.
So you're, you know, it's cool.
That's great.
Pick a song.
So you celebrate it and you're good.
Unbelievable this shit.
Of course you would try to have her cake and eat it too.
Ain't that some Lizzo shit to do?
Probably red velvet, the bitch.
What is it about?
Like, what is it about that is annoying?
Is that it?
Is it like you're literally trying to have your cake and eat it too?
Celebrating Fat or Judging It00:03:24
It's like you're trying to be a victim and you're using the victimhood to be celebrated.
I think that's what, basically, I think that's what bothers you.
So it's one or the other for you.
Do you see everybody jump on board and be like, oh, it's so amazing.
I miss her.
I love her.
No, you don't.
Like, you don't have to do this.
They're only doing it so that they can look progressive.
So they can look progressive.
It's the same shit where Howard Stern said, Gabrielle Sitabay, Precious.
He was like, she needs to lose weight.
Everybody celebrating her being big like this.
She's not going to have the career she would have if she was 200 pounds skinnier.
Yeah.
From what I understand, it's basically what he said.
And everybody jumped down his throat and fuck Howard Stern.
She's been in how many movies since?
A couple?
Tower Heist or whatever with Eddie Murphy and Ben Stiller.
Probably one or two others I can't think of.
That's it.
That's because all the fat bitches in movies are played by black men.
Right?
Like, Barry Martin Lawrence, if you need a fat bitch in a movie, bro, a male black actor is going to take that role.
Son, she's been the fat bitch in less movies than Tyler.
Eddie Murphy?
Eddie Murphy.
Oh, Norbit Professor.
Nutty Professor.
Son, fat black bitches can't get no roles out here.
And they got all the roles out here.
Real talk.
Yo, maybe Lizzo got a point.
Yo, do you think Eddie Murphy took more jobs from black actors than any other person?
Oh my god, he might have, though.
That was not my representation of Hollywood.
He played eight black.
No, it's like he made Chappelle famous.
He made Rock famous.
He's like, I gotta cut this shit out.
It might not be an Eddie Murphy no more.
He just started playing all the roles.
Son, the same thing with Robin Williams.
Robin Williams would voice all the characters in the cartoons with a ladder.
He's like, can motherfuckers get some work out here, Robin?
That's so you got you gonna steal people's jokes and their roles, dude.
That's a great point.
Oh my god, they probably took him out.
Yo, yo, y'all steal jobs from white people, son.
Son and brag about it, bro.
His name was Robin.
That's what we're saying, bro.
Holy shit.
Now we're on to it.
You think that's why they threw the tranny at Eddie?
Oh, that's why he had.
Oh, no.
That's why he had to start doing his own roles because he was putting too many black people on.
Put Rock on, put Chappelle on, put Martin on.
You know what?
Let's get this guy out of here.
Oh, no.
I think it's the other way.
I think the black actors are like, wait a minute, he's doing all the characters in the movies, and our roles aren't there no more.
We got to get him out of here.
Go get him.
You put people together to conspire.
Yo, come on.
Black people don't come just right there, son.
Did Kim Jong-un just possess you?
I think he might.
Are you possessed by Kim Jong Union?
I think he might.
I think I got MK Ultra.
What would happen if you got possessed by Kim Jong-un, bro?
I don't know, dude.
That'd be crazy.
I have to wear some sick-ass fits.
But wait, in all seriousness, what were we just saying?
I don't remember.
Oh, Eddie Murphy's training.
Oh, yeah.
Do you think that's a possibility?
Oh, black people conspiring to come together.
Do black people conspire to come together?
Akash says no.
I don't know.
I haven't been brought in.
You haven't been brought into the meetings.
Yeah.
Oh, maybe the Jay-Z.
What about Dr. Umar Jones?
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Dr. Lamar Johnson Is The GOAT00:15:53
Dr. Lamar Johnson is the GOAT, bro.
Yo, mama is a GOAT.
So did you see the clip?
Did you see the clip?
Oh, my God.
Which clip is the question?
Oh, my God.
That's the funny thing.
He is the funniest motherfucker, unintentionally funny.
He is the most unintentionally funny human being that I've ever seen in my entire life.
There's a clip.
I got this shit on my phone.
There's a clip of him giving these conferences.
He gives these conferences where he basically just takes advantage of black people.
I mean, it's really sad, man.
It's too bad because I liked a lot of things he says.
But you don't, though.
That's the thing.
Like, if you listen to him, you don't.
Yeah, you know.
Maybe I haven't listened enough.
I don't know.
That's what I said.
I don't have a real opinion one way or the other.
From what I've heard, I heard a little snippets.
I'm like, oh, that's cool.
Nah, that's the thing.
Broken Clockwrite two times a day, right?
So like he's a perfect example of that.
Like he'll say some shit that's like empowering and smart.
Honestly, I don't even want to get into like.
Do you know which conference?
Nah, I got the clip somewhere right here, man, because I've laughed at this.
I got it.
Y'all ready?
Yeah.
Y'all ready for this shit?
Yeah.
All right.
Should I give you the long version or the short version?
How long is the long version?
44 seconds.
Oh, yeah.
We got 44 seconds.
Okay, hold on.
One second.
Can I send it to Al and put it on the TV?
Hold up.
Should I send it to you and put it on the TV?
All right.
Can you explain who he is?
Yeah.
That's the one guy Mark don't know about.
I'm sending it to your phone, Al?
Yeah.
All right.
So Dr. Umar Johnson is the prince of Pan-Africanism, Pan-Africanism, I guess, which is a movement.
It's a black empowerment movement.
And he has some very strict racial opinions about how black people should operate.
And you're right, there is some black pride baked in there and about togetherness and supporting community, et cetera.
But, and I got a lot of shit about this a few years ago, but the cool thing about the truth is that it never ages, guys.
Truth never ages.
I call it never ages.
Truth is black, bro.
That's right.
I know it, dog.
That's funny.
So basically, he had this hustle back in the day.
Like, I picked up that he was a con artist and shit like that, but this was, he was gaining a lot of steam back then.
He wanted to like start this like charter school for like black boys.
And he was like getting all these like donations in to start it.
And it never ended up becoming a school.
And it looked like a whole scam.
And who knows what he's trying to do?
But I basically called him.
I was like, dude, he's got like a lot of like super racist and homophobic rhetoric.
And it's like stupid.
This is back in Brilliants when I was like trying to like make like societal points about shit.
And everybody called me fucking, oh, right, or racist, this, that, the other.
And a few years later, now he's just a laughingstock of the internet.
But that's fine.
No apologies necessary, guys.
It's okay.
Just destroy my character.
But that's fine.
Okay.
So here, so I, but I absolutely love this guy.
He's fucking hilarious.
I mean, I don't love him in terms of anything he says.
You laugh at him.
Oh, my God.
He is so funny.
Yeah.
You know how like Duval posts like retards on his Instagram and they're hilarious?
This is my version of it.
Okay, so play this.
This is him at a conference.
Oh, this is him at a conference talking about how to fix a community.
Ready?
And play.
Come on, play.
Okay.
Got the thug energy, anger.
Thug energy is normally anger and pain.
That's all it is.
I know, because I do therapy with them thugs.
And once they see I ain't scared of them, then we can have a conversation.
And fellas, I want to be clear now.
When we go back to take over the community, because we're going to have to do it, gentlemen, you can't expect the cops to fix this because they started it.
But I want to be clear.
I know some of us love our children, but some of our children are so far gone that we're going to have to put some of them to sleep in order to take back the neighborhood.
Some of y'all don't want to hear that because you don't live in reality.
But I'm telling you, as a psychologist, I'm not going to be able to psychologize all them on the course.
Some of them are going to sleep.
What do you scream?
He said, some of them are going to sleep.
For good.
Son.
For literally a week straight, maybe two weeks straight, every day I said Charlamagne, for good every single day.
Just randomly throughout the day.
Son, it is hilarious.
What does Charlotte say?
Because Charlotte.
Oh, Charlotte put him on Breakfast Club a lot.
I think Charlotte is entertained by him.
I honestly don't know.
Because I asked him, I was like, I don't get it.
Like, you know, he's not a doctor, right?
Because I started looking into shit.
His name is Dr. Umar Johnson.
I'm starting to look.
I was like, where is he a doctor from?
Like, where'd he get his degree?
Yeah.
And I was like, just ask if he's a doctor.
Like, I can't find it.
I've Googled it.
I cannot find any degree for being a doctor.
That's the first step of Connor's.
Right, right, right.
Like the bare minimum, you're a kind of, you can't find it.
So I'm like, oh, the whole thing is fraud.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, bro.
That's the thing.
He already put a lot of you to sleep.
For God.
Stop it.
He said that shit.
So that shit was hilarious.
It was wild.
Yo.
That's a wild ass clip.
What else?
What else are we talking about today, bus?
Just shout out to black people who aren't doctors and claiming to be one, though.
Son, son, Dre.
We're the best for that.
That's how not racist we are, though, is we just believe it.
I mean, you tell me you're a doctor and I'm racist.
I'm like, from where?
But Dr. Umar Johnson says he's a doctor.
I'm like, yeah, I can see it.
Yes, he's a doctor.
Yeah, you can't question it, though.
That's what it is.
Why not?
Because then you feel guilty.
If some black guy is like, oh, yeah, I'm Dr. Something.
You have to be like, well, take his word for it.
Yeah.
Because if you do question it, then you're racist.
But do you ever question anybody's doctor?
It like, are you ever like, anybody's like, I'm a doctor?
And like, you would audibly say, really?
The only people who do are other doctors.
Women?
I'm a doctor.
You can get a doctor in home expression from where the culinary institute, bitch.
I didn't really give out doctorates.
So my girl did not like me correcting her on her food, bro.
Talk about it.
She made some food and that shit had a lot of ginger in it.
Okay.
The Indian food?
The Indian food.
It was tasting mad gingery.
All right.
And I'm nice with figuring shit out.
What does that even mean?
Like, I mean, nothing.
There's always a solution to that.
I'm nice at having taste buds.
No, Check it.
Check it.
There's always a solution to every problem, Akash.
Okay.
I wasn't a bar.
Okay, so I Google how you counteract the flavor of ginger because I'm like, there's got to be an equal and opposite reaction for food.
There we go.
Boom.
If something's too salty, you got to add this to take away the salt.
I'm like, they got to have that for ginger.
Motherfuckers been making ginger shit for too long to not be able to balance it.
So I Google it, right?
I'm like, it's a little gingery.
She's like, you think it's too gingery?
And I'm like, yeah, all you need to do is put some brown granulated sugar in there.
Okay.
This chick want to look at me.
This chick want to look at me.
I don't even know what she said, to be honest with you.
But she was so upset that I corrected her cooking that I offer a suggestion of her on her cooking, being that I know nothing about cooking.
Right.
But I had to explain to her, it has nothing to do with my expertise in cooking.
This is Google's expertise in cooking.
Don't you think that's reasonable to correct?
Yeah.
I definitely think it's reasonable, but she's feeling like if she Googled how to fix a joke and corrected you on a joke.
You'll look at her like yeah, my girl did that.
She might get Sam cooked.
Ain't I cooking for you?
She's going to sleep.
Oh God.
Son.
Son.
Imagine your girl.
That's a valid insight, Al.
That's a valid insight.
What would I do?
And that's it.
What if, but what if the correction that she gave?
Fire.
Would you give her credit?
Hell no.
Exactly.
And how would you look at her?
My girl gave me one premise that I completely forgot she gave me.
On purpose forgot.
I can't let this shit get credit for my brilliant shit.
She had a good ass idea.
I said, hey, she said the idea in the conversation, I realized, I was like, yo, that shit might be a good joke.
And in the conversation, I was like, honestly, I don't think anybody would make any sense of that, to be honest.
I downplayed, I downplayed the fuck out of her idea in real time.
I go, nah, I hear what you say, but I think most people think you're a fucking idiot for some shit like that.
You know what I mean?
So just forget you even said that so nobody judges you in the future.
And then I said it as a joke.
I remember she came to the show in New Orleans later that night.
She was like, she's like, that was really cool that something I said to you ended up on stage.
I was like, bitch, you gotta lie to your goddamn mind thinking you thought about that.
I told you that in that conversation, crazy ass.
Yeah, yo, I'm gonna be honest.
I relaxed.
Thitches gotta go sleep.
Are you right?
They do, Doctor.
I get it.
I can't psychologize her.
I cannot psychologize her, bro.
Yo, I'm gonna be honest.
I relate to your girl on this because me and a couple comics that are friends you have been a part of a thing where we run a premise by you and you're like, no, I thought of that.
And then we're just like, I did.
Huh?
Uh-oh.
I did.
So now it is don't go on stage.
I did think of it now, son.
If I thought of it, I did.
But you just won't go on stage.
You won't put it on stage, but then I'm like, or whoever's like, well, now I can't put it on stage because now we don't know.
Maybe we're wrong.
Maybe he did think of it.
I thought of all jokes.
It's a thing that's unfortunate for other comics.
That I thought of all jokes.
Yo, watching Andrew talk to himself is so fucking funny.
What I do.
It's just a few, and I'm sure you guys can tag on sentences.
He'll just be in his phone.
He won't be talking to anybody and just be like, these motherfuckers is hating me.
Yo, Andrew, who?
These motherfuckers.
Everybody.
They could do some shit.
I need to explain how it was his first.
Oh, my God, son.
You see these motherfuckers trying to go on stage and tell jokes inside microphones, son?
How they fuck, how they gonna do my shit, son?
How the fuck they gonna try to be funny in front of the crowd, son?
You know, they tell the joke and then they do some shit after the joke that's also funny that they say tag it.
That's a fucking joke.
Son, this shit is crazy, bro.
This shit is crazy, bro.
I be promoting my shows with a flyer.
These motherfuckers want to promote their shows so people come out to their shit.
Stealing my bits.
I'm like, yo, that's Chris Rock.
Doing my jokes in the 90s and shit.
Fucking idiot.
Son.
Nah, I like to create like a little enemies, bro.
That shit drives me.
I know.
And you need that.
You need that.
But they don't know that shit.
We be shaking hands in the club.
Hey, Joe's, how's everything going?
I'll be like, that's good.
Everything's cool, but you go to sleep.
Fuck.
I like the way you psychologize your enemies.
You got to create the enemies, B. Bro, you really do.
We're riding the motorcycle.
Here we go.
And literally, I'll play on the last guy.
Like, I don't know what's going to happen.
I don't know what's going to happen.
Nah, I like that.
So you, the light turns green.
Yeah.
And then for the other side, for the cross street, and you cut off a car to go across the street because you don't stop at the red lights.
And then the cop turns on his little sirens.
He goes, whoop, whoop.
And you go, bitch-ass cop.
It's like, you cut him off.
Son, I do.
You want to know some real shit I do that's fucking stupid, but I really do it.
I'll be biking, right?
And I'll pass another biker.
Yeah.
Right.
And as I pass, I'll go, fuck out of here.
You want to know what's crazy?
I got electric motors.
I ain't even biking past him.
It's the electric doing all the work.
I literally look at him.
I was like, stupid, fuck out of here.
Stu, you thought, you thought you was going to keep up with me, stupid, with your dumb pedals.
Oh, my God.
I'm just as dumb.
I'm going up the bridge.
And I was like, dumb pedal ass.
Motherfucker.
Walk in.
Walk it.
Homeless dude with a bunch of bottles on his shit.
Oh, my God.
I bet you hot.
I bet you hot.
I bet you breathing hard right now.
I bet you sweaty, huh?
You sweaty underneath all that?
Hey, hey, what's it like to breathe?
Like, you got corona?
Why are you breathing so heavy?
Oh, my God.
Son.
Yo, that is true, man.
Create those enemies, bro.
Fuck.
Y'all got to create.
Y'all don't got enemies that don't know their enemies?
I got a couple for sure.
Come on.
I don't have any.
None?
None.
Swear to God.
None.
Swear to God.
Black women?
You be passing them in the club like fuck out of this.
What are these white bitches at?
Alex was like, yo, Nina Smoll's the best artist ever, bro.
If she walked up to you in the club, you'd be like, oh.
That'd be a huge sling, though.
She's dead.
Single.
You like her because she's dead.
I missed that.
You also like her because she got two white names.
Guys.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Draymond.
Oh, God.
Draymond.
Draymond.
He really takes the auto-tune, huh?
I'm nice.
We haven't had a singing competition in a minute, bro.
We haven't had a singing competition in a minute.
I think we got to save it for Patriarch.
Save it?
Yeah.
All right, but we haven't even had a singing competition.
Hey, bet.
Friday, everybody got to come correct with a song.
Okay.
Sam Cook.
No, you come correct with your song.
You choose what you want.
Everybody got to come correct with a song.
Friday, we're going to have another singing competition because we haven't had a sing competition in a minute.
Ooh, and Mark's here now.
Oh, yeah.
Mark thinks he can sing.
Mark thinks he can sing.
Singer, bro.
How you figure?
Because I know all the words.
No, but why are you a legit singer?
Because I'm good at it.
But why?
I was in the choir.
Were you in choir?
Yeah.
Oh, that shit's cheating.
Fifth grade to seventh grade, bro.
He got lessons in it.
Yeah.
Miss Taylor.
That's not even real choir.
Yeah, that's nothing.
You don't think?
Nah, that's just weeded him out before he got real.
You just got to stand up there with the rest of the shit.
We got superiors.
We got superior at the state competition.
What does that mean?
I don't really know.
I don't know.
Superior?
Yeah, I think that's what it was.
So when you win, you're not the winner.
You're the superior.
It's better than average.
Superior.
What is it?
It's better than average, I guess.
That's assuming too.
Oh, gosh, can you?
Can you explain what drug activities are you doing?
Yeah, like the fuck y'all talking about.
Dude, it was an all-white kids' choir at a Christian school.
That shit was trash, probably.
Really?
Singing Versus Being Superior00:02:02
Yeah.
What songs did you sing?
We sang.
Shut the fuck up.
Mostly Sam Cook is what we sing.
A lot of Sam Cook.
Oh, there we go.
Respect.
Respect.
A lot of Nina Simone.
Son, we got to do a nice little sing-along come Friday.
Flagrant Idol Part 2.
Flagrant Idol Part 2.
I think so.
I'm with it.
Y'all with it?
But we have to really try to sing.
You can't joke around.
You have to.
You the motherfucker that joked around the whole time last time.
I'm not.
I take it serious.
Nah.
I take it serious.
Nah.
Hey, I have the best voice.
I have the best lips.
I thought we already did it.
And I thought once Al won, he won for good.
Wait, what song did Al do?
Son, I bodied everything.
So Donald Jones, where I want to be.
Al is nice.
Al is nice.
I will be honest.
Mark is nice.
Mark is good at singing.
Mark is really good at singing, bro.
I'm not going front.
I'm not going for it.
Mark is good at saying, Akashi, you're trash.
You are trash.
You're garbage at singing.
You're like garbage.
You're the worst, yo.
Nah, nah, nah.
If I'm trash, you're worse.
That's all I need.
I'll be trash, but you worse.
No.
Al, son.
Who do you think is Friday?
Who do you think?
He just wants health insurance.
That's all.
He just wants health insurance.
Do the fucking faso latitude right now.
Just do it.
Hit it.
Yo, you hit it.
Dore me faso la tito.
Oh, I can't hate that snack.
Come on.
Do it.
I dare you to sing, bro.
I dare you to sing with me right now.
Go.
Hit it.
How does it go?
Up.
You know how that shit go.
Dore me faso la tito.
Daring Dennis to Sing Now00:15:22
No.
No.
That shit was nice, though.
That shit was nice, little basic little rich voice crack.
That shit was rich.
That shit was rich, yo.
Fucking cracked.
That shit was rich, yo.
No, you about to lose come Friday.
You better come correct.
Oh, we're going.
Let's go.
All right.
Let's let it come correct.
Let's go.
All right.
Let's go.
Let's talk about Draymond.
Draymond.
Okay, Draymond Green.
Why do you think that he feels the need to talk?
He's like Dennis Rodman, but boring.
Oh my God.
I love that.
Go ahead.
He's just a bootleg-ass Dennis Rodman.
You're not quite as good of a defender.
You're not nearly as good of a rebounder.
You're not nearly as entertaining, but you keep yapping.
You're not doing any of the crazy shit.
You're not going out getting drunk and then coming back and being the fucking winning at the Indian race or whatever it's called.
Yes.
You're just not as good and you just talk more.
And it's not fun to watch.
Rodman entertaining.
So I'll let Robin slide.
Yeah.
Draymond is not.
Yeah.
He is just complaining.
Just fucking complaining.
And like, if you guys don't know what we're referencing, he was on a podcast.
I forget whose podcast.
And he was just talking all this shit for no reason.
Like, there's really no reason for him to talk about this, right?
Like, you have your rings.
History books say what they say.
It's the Matt Barr and Steven Jones podcast.
What's it called?
Stephen Jackson?
Oh, Stephen Jackson.
And it's like, but he just starts giving up all these opinions.
It's like for nothing.
Like, and maybe it's deep-rooted insecurity.
You know, who knows what the fuck it is.
But he drives me crazy because I think that he believes he's part of the big three, if you will.
Yes.
I truly believe, I truly believe in my heart that he is as valuable to the Warriors as Luke Longley was to the Bulls.
He is the Warriors Luke Longley.
I think he is the most replaceable player on that team.
I really think.
I think you could get any decent power forward that plays D, don't have to do anything else, but plays D. Can you think of a player in the league that you could replace him with?
Any power forward.
Not Kevin Love, because Kevin Love don't play D. Kevin Love can't lock up.
But if you take a Pascal Siakum, the Warriors are 10 times better.
Oh, yeah, Pascal.
You take, I wish we could go through like a list of power forwards.
It would be 10 times better.
Because you don't have to do anything.
Just stand at the fucking top of the key, hand the goddamn ball off to Steph or Clay, and shut the fuck up.
Like, literally, that's all you have to do to win rings.
And he can't stop talking.
What did Barkley call him?
Mr. Triple Single?
Yeah.
That's what he's triple single.
It's like you don't have, yes, you can play defense against guys that are bigger than you effectively.
Yes, you have that.
We're the greatest team ever.
Me and Steph Curry would have fucking destroyed Shaq in a pick and roll.
Shaq would have walked through you on the first pick and roll, and you would never set a pick against Sturdy in your entire life.
Yeah, you think you're stopping Shaq in the post?
I dare you to dare you to think that at 6'7, you're gonna stop Shaq in the post.
Unbelievable.
You can play D against today's big man because today's big man is a 6'9 guy who's 190 pounds.
You ain't seen no fucking.
Do you think he's just trolling?
I think he's quarantined.
He's bored.
He just wants to troll and stay in.
I don't think so.
I think he's like us.
I think that he wants attention.
He's no different than us.
But like, we want attention because this is what we do for a living.
We literally talk shit for a living.
That is our job.
He plays basketball for a living.
You don't need both.
I'm not good enough at basketball to get attention for it.
Yeah, but you are going to get attention and you're going to get the rings.
You should be validated by that one thing.
You shouldn't need anything else.
Like, I can understand if we were like on a rowing team and we were like the best rowers or on the best rowing team.
Like that should validate us.
We should be good with that.
You know what, how you talked about Jordan's ego was wrapped up in the ring?
Yeah.
Draymond's isn't.
Draymond got the rings, got rings, and still not validating.
Because Draymond knows that he's not necessary.
He really knows he's not necessary and it eats away at him.
And I think he's kind of trying to qualify himself constantly.
He's like, I am part of this big three.
I do offer value.
I am part of the reason why we won.
You're a part, but so is John Paxson.
You're part, but so is Bill Cartwright.
That's who you are.
You are a role player on the best team ever, and your role could be easily filled by any number of other players there.
It really could.
And people bigged his ass up.
They bigged his fucking ass up, and he started to believe it.
That's the issue.
So here's what I think, yo, he got the first championship.
He was pivotal because that's a substitution they made that turned the series.
Now it was also a broken-ass Cleveland team.
If Cleveland is full strength, they probably was.
But if Draymond doesn't get suspended for game five, a lot of people think Golden State wins that series.
But he did the next year.
But he did because he's a retard.
There you go.
And also, at the end of that series, the reason they lost is because by game six and seven, they figured out how to beat the Warriors.
And Draymond is a guy you can expose.
They don't, you just kill Steph on the pick and roll, and then you're fine.
Draymond, shoot threes all day.
We know you'll miss eventually.
Shoot threes.
I remember texting you in the first half because he hit a few threes and you're like, this is the best.
Draymond is drunk off these threes.
He's going to start missing.
Cavs are going to win.
It's exactly what happened.
And it's happened.
You know what's interesting is that the best thing that could have possibly happened to Draymond Green's career is coronavirus.
By far the best thing because it will make us forget about the season where he was exposed.
When Steph is down and Clay is down and Draymond is by himself, he's averaging eight points a game or whatever the fuck he is.
You know what the second best thing is?
KD signs.
Another thing that he hated.
But if KD didn't sign, all of a sudden we know how to beat the Warriors.
It's done.
They're a beatable team.
This is the formula.
Then KD signs, and now it's an unstoppable amount of talent, and there's nothing you can do.
But he's, what, the fifth best player on the team, fourth best player on the team?
It's very, it's very interesting.
This was the season that he spoke the most, right?
He had the most opinions, and this is the season where he was exposed the most.
I think he's just speaking out insecurity.
He's realizing his limitations and he's realizing how amazing he was when he was within that system and he was the fourth or fifth option on the floor at any given point in time.
It's no different than like when you play with Steve Nash and all of a sudden you start averaging 20 points a game.
You're like, oh, I'm this shit.
And then you stop playing with Steve Nash and you're like, wait a minute, why am I averaging 12 points a game?
Jason Kidd, you balling Jason Kidd and you're shooting the best you've ever shot, right?
You're scoring the most you've ever scored.
He's going to get you the ball in the perfect situation at any point in time.
LeBron.
LeBron, perfect example.
You're going to get money when you play with these guys, but you're not actually that good on a free market in the league.
And Draymond, when he was on his free market, the Warriors were bums.
The worst team in the league, I think.
Were they the worst team in the league?
I believe the worst.
So if you're Charles Barkley, if you think Charles Barkley can't sit at my table, but with you as the alpha, the team is the worst in the league.
So Charles made the playoffs.
Charles would drag you to the playoffs.
Charles would drag your ass in a motherfucking playoffs.
Where are you dragging him?
To the worst fucking record in the league, or at least the worst record in the West?
Yeah, you're a system center.
You are a system center.
That is well said.
And you're speaking out because you're realizing it this year.
You're realizing your effect on the team is minimal.
And the level of denial is crazy.
He was saying, like, you know, teams used to always say when we were good that you guys get all the calls.
And then this year we're bad and we're not getting the calls.
And I see what they're saying.
But then he didn't stop there.
He goes, it's almost like refs are paying me back for what, you know, the things that I would do when I was good.
Like they don't like me.
It's like, no, this is just, you got them.
That's how the league works.
Good teams get all the calls.
I think they got the most calls.
Fine.
Now you're a bad team.
You see what it's like.
But instead of saying, yo, we got the benefit of the doubt on a lot of calls.
Yeah.
We still win the series, but maybe we don't win game one against Cleveland if KD didn't get that, draw that bullshit charge against LeBron or whatever.
We got a lot of calls.
Instead of saying that, he's just like, no, I think they hate me from back when we were good.
Not, oh, yeah, they're right.
We got the benefit.
Oh, they hate me.
Woe is me.
He's just so annoying, man.
Well, you can't accept the truth.
Most people are in denial about something.
So we overcompensate somehow.
But for him.
If the truth is something you don't want to believe.
Yeah, anything you're insecure about, you overcompensate.
So him overcompensating for the fact that he's insecure about being like a true all-star on your own, you're great with good players who can't play defense.
With great shooters who can't play defense, you're necessary.
You hold it together.
That's the only time you're valuable, like really valuable.
And that is a position of value, but it's not a position that needs to talk.
It's not a star position.
Yeah.
So it's one of those things where it's like, you might be the linchpin.
You might be the thing that holds everything together.
You know that stone that's in the top of an archway?
Yeah.
Right?
It's that one stone, right?
Yeah.
That when placed, it holds the arch together.
Yeah.
Yes, that thing is incredibly important, right?
It's not the fucking foundation.
It's not the columns.
It's not the thing that's actually building the arch.
Without it, it falls short.
But it is not the most important part of that team because you don't even have a fucking arch if you don't have the things that are supporting the structure itself.
Dennis Rodman not as good.
Dennis Rodman couldn't carry a team on his own.
Dennis Rodman was a great defender.
What David Aldrich said, the best on-the-ball defender he's ever seen.
Draymond is probably up there off the ball on the ball.
You're not nearly as good of a rebounder.
Dennis Robbins by far the best rebounder ever.
Yeah.
That's who you are.
Yeah.
Dennis Rodman's a star because Dennis Rodman is a star.
And you know what's a shame?
Is that Draymond would be so beloved if he shut the fuck up.
Yeah, man.
I would love Draymond.
Because we've got, because you actually kind of want to love the underdog on the team of stars.
We all do.
America loves an underdog.
We were an underdog.
That's how we got here.
Yeah, we're rebels.
We are an underdog.
It's built into us.
Yeah, we love the fucking guy that's the underdog.
And you do the intangibles, right?
You're jumping into the crowd if you're going to take on the Rodman.
You're jumping in the crowd.
You're playing the tough D. You're defending the guys that are way bigger than you.
We would fucking love Draymond if he let us love him instead of explaining to us why we should.
Yeah.
We would fall in love with a guy like that.
We'd want him on our team.
Hey, he's the reason why the Warriors win because he can hold it all together.
But the second that you come out there and you open your mouth and say your name alongside Steph Curry or Kevin Durant or even Clay Thompson, you look ridiculous.
You really do.
Fucking Draymond.
You heard what Barkley said?
What did he say?
He said you're the worst member of the boy band.
That's what he said.
That's what he said.
Barkley's the funniest, yo.
That's the other thing about Draymond.
Dennis Rodman will take your best player mentally out of the game.
Yeah.
Draymond can't do that.
Draymond will take himself out of the game.
Draymond will take himself out of the game.
If you charge him up, Bradley Beale, that was like a, that fight was a draw?
No, Bradley Beal checked him.
I thought Beal won.
It wasn't a fight, but Beale checked him and Draymond didn't do shit.
Yeah, so that's why I thought his win was.
But like, it wasn't, you didn't body Bradley Beal, who's not a big guy.
I mean, he's, what, 6'7?
6' he's a small forward?
I thought Bradley Beal was 6'5.
Maybe.
You're going up against Sanders.
Like, you're supposed to be the fucking bully.
You're the guy.
Chuck fought Shaq.
Yeah.
You ain't fighting no Shaqs, yo.
Yeah.
Chuck was fearless.
Bradley Beal went at you and got you.
Yeah.
Exposed you.
Yeah, man.
I'm not feeling the Draymond situation right now.
He needs to quiet it on up.
If he quieted down, honestly, I'd have probably come around on him this year.
I'd have been like, yo, man, you put that guy on the right team.
He'd be great.
We love him.
And I thought maybe he would shut up.
He even said last year he learned he needed to shut up more, I think.
No, he forgot that shit.
Yep.
Yep.
What else we got, man?
I saw this thing going around on Twitter.
Would you start, bench, or cut these three players?
Shaq, Hakeem Alajamon, and Kareem Adul-Jabbar.
That's hard.
That's a fucking good one.
Yo.
Start, bench, cut.
I'd have to cut Hakeem.
I would start Shaq.
And then I would bench Kareem.
I'd bench Kareem because I'd want Kareem to finish the game because Shaq can't shoot free throws.
Oh, that's a great call.
I was just thinking, so I was, this is crazy to say, but I think you got to cut Hakeem.
And I was thinking you would start Shaq just because psychologically, I think he needs that a little bit more.
And also, yeah, early on in the game, you can run the offense through Shaq late in the game.
You can't.
So that's what I was thinking.
You would bench Hakeem and have him close it out.
But it's a good one.
That sky hook is indefensible, too.
I mean, Kareem reek from the, what's the podcast?
He does a mouse.
He was saying, he says he thinks Kareem is the best ever.
And there's an argument.
And there's an argument for it, man.
It's hard to deny.
Yeah.
And you say it's just because Kareem was an asshole.
I think history remembers him poorly, man.
I think that he played a role in that.
But yeah, that's interesting.
Al, what do you think?
I would probably start Kareem and then bring in Shaq when I needed some bully ball because Kareem's going to get you buckets.
Yeah.
And he's in better shape.
So it's like when he needs a rest, bring in Shaq because you know Shaq's going to give you buckets too, but also he could just go ham when I'm putting him in as six men.
And then this might, this might be something you should consider.
I was just thinking Shaq's ego is a little more fragile.
Yeah.
So if you bench Shaq, he could get pouty.
He could get whatever.
You start Shaq, give him that.
Shaq does have a fragile ego.
Kareem, maybe he's an asshole, but he seems like he wouldn't be as whatever.
He's like, whatever.
At least he tries to be about that Buddhist shit.
Yeah.
So we'll see if he actually believes it.
Mark, what do you think?
Do you know any of these guys?
No.
No, I think the one on the left is pretty good, and then the other two, you know, take him or leave him.
All right.
What else we got, man?
Let's look at the topic list.
You.
Oh, the Aaron Gordon diss track, dog.
Yeah.
So that shit is, yo, bars, dog.
You liked it?
Sure.
Absolutely.
Nah, that might have been a bomb, bro.
I just, okay, go on, go on.
We got to listen to something.
No, no, I don't want to.
I don't want it to get flagged or nothing like that.
Let's be honest.
Aaron Gordon, who plays for the Orlando Magic, had a diss track and he's dissing Dwayne Wade and also dissing the competition itself.
Yeah, this is where he fucked up.
I'm going to be honest.
If he just made a regular rap, I think people would be like, yo, he's not bad for a rapper.
He's not dame.
He's not bad for a rapper.
But writing a diss track because of a fucking dunk contest makes you look like such a loser.
Yeah.
Now you lost a dunk contest before you got robbed.
Now you deserve to lose that shit.
There's this.
The only thing this thing says to me is that he believes he'll never win a championship.
And the mark that he was going to make on the NBA was going to be winning a dunk contest.
I think that's as far as he thinks.
I think that's as far as he thinks he would have gone.
I don't know if he cares to win a championship.
I mean, I assume I don't know if he's got that thing in him, that Jordan thing in him.
It's like, I want to win a championship at all costs.
Like, if this eats away at you and your answer is to go make a diss track and not like fuck everybody.
That's Barnes' whole thing.
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I mean, I think every player in the NBA wants to win a championship.
Yeah, but like, how bad do you want it?
Is what I'm saying?
Yeah, I think he doesn't believe he'll ever be in a situation where he can win it.
And I think he's okay with that.
That's what I mean.
Yeah.
So because if you're making a big deal off of a fucking dunk contest, like dunk contest, it's fun for us, but it's really stupid.
Like, let's be honest.
Like, who gives a fuck who's the best dunker?
Because the best dunker doesn't even play in the NBA.
The best dunker is some guy that's part of some dunk league, right?
But can't even dribble a basketball.
Like, you can't in the NBA when you win a championship, there's no better basketball players out there in the world.
So when you win that championship, you are the best basketball player in the world.
When you win the dunk contest in the NBA, you are the best dunker that happens to be in the NBA.
Who wanted to be in the dunk contest?
That's it.
Because LeBron never wanted to be in the dunk contest.
Exactly.
Yeah.
You're the best person that was available that night.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, there are better players that could win that contest.
Yeah.
You're the best one that was available that night.
But I think that's what he thought his mark was going to be.
And he feels slighted, and he should because he arguably lost.
Yeah.
I mean, it was close.
It wasn't like a robbery.
I thought he won.
I was there live.
It was close.
This one.
This one.
No, two ones ago.
Yeah, he's talking about this last one.
This one.
Oh, the last one I thought was arguable.
The first one that he lost.
Yeah.
Probably that thing where he went underneath both his legs and dunked it, like wiped his own asses.
I thought that was crazy.
Yeah.
But whoever won that year also, was it Levine?
Zach Levine.
It was crazy.
This year, the last dunk where he got a nine and James Jones, or however you say, Justin, whatever his name is, he got a 10.
I thought Gordon's dunk was just better straight up.
Yeah.
And I thought for that reason, he got robbed.
That's it.
You got robbed.
What are you going to do?
If you really thought you were going to win a championship or you had a chance to win a championship, you wouldn't even give a fuck about this.
You'd be like, all right.
Matter of fact, you wouldn't even be competing.
You're like, yo, I got more important things to do, like focus on winning a championship.
But the fact that he cares this much, it lets me know that you don't care that much about winning, man.
Or you don't feel like you'll ever be put in a situation to win.
And the way that you will be put in a situation to win is to take less money because he's a guy who's going to get, I don't know if he's getting max, but he's getting big contracts.
He's going to get a big contract.
He got a decent deal, I think.
I think it's free, but.
So he's the type of guy that will get a big contract.
And if he's the best player on your team, you guys won't go to the promised land.
So the only way he can win a championship is if he accepts less money to be on a team with real max players.
And I think that he's basically going, no, I'm going to get as much as I can.
And this is just my career.
And I'm going to play basketball.
And it is what it is.
That's what I'm saying.
He doesn't really want to win a championship.
Everybody wants to win.
But the level of sacrifice and work and all that shit, not a lot of us want to do that.
I think he'll do all the work and all the sacrifice, except financially.
Like, he's a guy who really worked on his game.
He's showed real improvements, man.
Like, when he came into the league, he was just jumping.
Now he can shoot.
This guy, he's gotten better.
I just don't think he's willing to make that financial sacrifice.
Fair enough.
And maybe.
And maybe it's tough to do that shit.
Like we were talking, it's like the fucking money these guys are making now, it's hard, dude.
And on some Zen shit or whatever.
When you think about how unhappy some of these guys are, if you're happy with money and you don't have to win, maybe you're better off.
I don't want to watch as a sports fan, but maybe he's happier.
I mean, clearly he's not that happy, I guess, if he's making a diss song about this.
Nah, this music video shows me he's probably one of the only NBA players not flying in hoes.
If you have time to do this fucking shit, like you're not flying in hoes, yo.
My man is doing his own quarantine running.
He wrote bars, had time to shoot and edit a fucking movie, a music video.
I think he made another song before this one.
Really?
This is like his second song that he's done during the quarantine?
No, I just think like in general.
Oh, so he wants to rap.
Yeah, he's trying to, my thing is like going to pivot out of the NBA and become like an analyst or a rapper and try to like become Shaq or some shit.
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You're from Orlando, Mark.
Is he beloved in Orlando?
Is he popular?
Y'all don't care.
They use him for the marketing shit, put him on the Amway.
You don't really care about sports?
Sager.
In Orlando?
Yeah.
They just built a new stadium for Orlando City.
Magic's kind of like, Orlando's city.
I've never heard a less significant city call themselves City.
New York City, Mexico City, Orlando City.
Tokyo City.
Orlando City.
But yeah, no, he's not really beloved.
But it's like the city's too transient.
There's too many Mexican immigrants, like Vietnamese immigrants.
They care about other shit.
So the majority of the people there don't like American sports.
Kind of.
I mean, obviously the games will do well when the Magic were popping with Dwight in 2012.
They were all sold out and shit, but no.
There's not really a basketball culture.
If anything, the sports culture is more like European sports.
Yeah, Latino.
Yeah, man.
That's that Florida shit, bro.
Yeah.
I mean, Jacksonville should lose the Jaguars from what I hear all the time.
Outside of Duval, I don't know any Jaguar fans.
They apparently don't ever really sell out.
They just talk about them moving to London.
They've been that for years.
Oh, yeah.
London fucking loves the NFL whenever it goes there at least.
But college sports do well in Florida.
I don't know why.
Like they like southern culture and y'all got good college football teams, but southern culture loves college football.
With everybody there buys into this idea of like they're playing for the love of the game.
And then that's all you guys have in a lot of like fucking Alabama.
You got Auburn, you got Alabama.
That's all you got.
Right.
There's no sports teams professionally anywhere near.
There's no pro team in Alabama?
No.
Oh, shit.
No Little Rock or like Arkansas.
There's no fucking Little Rock, whatever.
Florida has so many implants.
Like you got the Cubans, you got the.
That's the thing about Florida.
They also.
NFL.
Yeah.
My take on at least Southern Florida was that it's a digestible form of America for Latinos.
For like South and Central Americans.
Yeah.
And because of that, you don't see popular American traditional entertainment outlets like basketball or even stand-up comedy flourish there.
Right.
Whereas in a traditional American city, usually, even if it's not even that big, you'll see stand-up or you'll see like basketball flourish.
But like even when we went to Miami, you don't feel like you're in America, America.
You'll feel like that you're in a version of America that will be safe if you're coming from Brazil.
Yeah.
In the same way, like when you're in Hawaii, you're like, I know I'm in America, but I'm in what an Asian thinks America is.
Right?
Like, if you asked a Japanese person to like make America based on their image, it would be Hawaii.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like.
But I will say, though, that Orlando loved White.
Dwight Howard.
Yeah.
I don't know.
They've like, I mean, obviously he was like great and like won the Eastern Conference and shit, but like they loved him.
That's right.
You guys went to the finals.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, if you take a team that's used to doing nothing and then take them to the promised land, you'll become beloved.
I wonder if on some level they also knew they fucked up Shaq.
Hmm.
Yeah, I don't know.
How'd they fuck up Shaq?
I wasn't there for that.
When Shaq was a free agent, there was some billboard that said like, or some ad in the newspaper that said, like, would you rather have Shaq or Penny or something like that?
And overwhelmingly, they voted Penny.
They just made it clear to Shaq, we don't really value you.
We value Penny.
If y'all got a beef, it's poor Penny.
And then Shaq was like, all right, fuck you guys.
I'm out.
Wow.
And LA is obviously probably enticing anyway if you're Shaq and you think you can rap and act and all this stuff.
Yeah.
I'll go to LA.
Fuck you guys.
They got money.
They got space.
Let's go.
Yeah.
But I think, and again, Shaq Fragile Ego.
I think if Orlando made it clear Shaq is our guy, Shaq would have stayed.
I think.
I don't know if he ever would have won a chip without Phil, but he would have stayed.
I mean, they were close.
They were like a Nick Anderson free throw away or something, right?
When they went to the finals, I think Houston swept him, but Shaq was dumb young.
Did they sweep him or they won one game?
Maybe they won.
No, maybe they swept him.
And this is after they beat the Pacers in the conference finals.
Yeah.
I remember they beat the Pacers in like six, and the Pacers, I thought, could beat the Magic, and they didn't.
But they were a young team, yo.
Shaq was in like his third year, fourth year.
Penny was in like his third year.
They were young.
And they just got into fucking raped.
Egos fucked both of them up.
And then the yeah, the Magic fans chose Penny over Shaq.
They swept him, huh?
Yeah, and Hakeem.
Shaq is one of the few people he's humble about is Hakeem.
I think he might even say to this day, Hakeem is better than me because Hakeem apparently just schooled him for four straight games.
Yeah, there's a documentary about this.
There was some, maybe it was a 30 for 30 or something.
I would love to watch that.
I was watching some video about this.
Like, oh, God, what was Hakeem?
Hakeem was kind of talking shit, but like in his polite way.
Really?
Or something like that?
Like, I don't know.
There's some weird thing.
Maybe you can look this up, Mark.
But it was like Shaq would kind of like give him an elbow.
Yeah.
And Hakeem would be like, ooh, good one.
It was just some weird thing that he, but he really broke Shaq.
Yeah.
Apparently.
How did he do it?
I was forgetting.
It was like in the second half of the first game, something happened.
Fun finals would have been those, the first, the Rockets that won their first championship and the Bulls.
I think the Bulls would have won, but Hakeem and Magic or Hakeem and Mike would have been fun.
The 84 draft going at it, the number one number three pick.
It would have been fun.
Again, I think the Bulls would have won it, but it would have been fun to see.
Yeah, man.
And Hakeem, that was like the height of his powers.
Yeah.
He was so fucking good.
Guys, shall we wrap this up?
Is there anything else that we need to touch on?
I feel like we hit all the major ones.
Can you see the topic?
Let's go.
All right.
Anything else you guys want to really get off your chest?
Oh, did we see this?
Did we talk about this mom pushing her girlfriend off the camera at the draft?
Do we talk about that on Patreon or we only talk about CD Lamb?
Oh, yeah, I guess I think.
But some mom wanted her spotlight.
No, bro.
It was the girlfriend won her spot.
So NBA or NFL player gets drafted, some lineman.
He's sitting on the ground crying, hat covering his eyes.
His girlfriend is like comforting him off camera, but she keeps trying to like lean down to put her head on top of his so she can be in the camera.
And the mom, I thought the mom, the first watch, real quickly, I was like, oh, the mom must be on camera too.
They're fighting over it.
It's funny.
Mom is just trying to shove her out of the fucking way.
And the girlfriend's like trying to like move her off.
And then the mom just kind of like forcibly removes her and then stands over the camera and just lets her son have her moment.
It was so dope, dude.
Oh, can you bring that up, bro?
Because I didn't see that.
That mom should get drafted.
What?
What happened?
The mom should get drafted, bro.
Yeah, so here it is.
Because defense.
Watch the defense on this.
On the O-line.
Look.
Yeah, this is.
Isaiah will see.
Can we cut the volume just in case?
Yeah.
So there's the girlfriend.
Look at the mom.
She's like trying to put her head in the frame.
And now see how she fights.
Fights off.
And mom just gets out of there.
And then there you go.
Have your moment, son.
Oh, go back to the beginning.
Just one more time.
She's putting her hands over there.
Like, let him have his.
All right.
Look at the girlfriend.
She's hugging.
Okay.
And she white.
You know, the mom was so happy to do this, yo.
Yeah.
And then the end of the son, Edward, I just saw the look in his face.
Like, oh, fuck, yo.
Now I got to deal with this.
Yeah, he knows he's got to deal with that shit later.
That's the funny part.
She's out of here.
You think that girl's not out of here?
She got to be out, yo.
She's out of here, bro.
Why are you fighting her off?
Who sets up the cameras in these people's houses?
They set it up.
So I think they sent every NFL prospect that might get drafted a package or whoever they want to tape at least.
I didn't watch the third day, but you have a camera that you set up, and then one other thing you set up, and then all 32 hats.
So, whoever drafts you, you put on that hat.
Oh, wow.
It was a smart move.
That's kind of cool.
Do you get to keep the shit if you don't get drafted?
I'm sure.
They're not going to ask for the 31 hats back in a wedding.
Imagine not getting drafted and you just have a hat from everybody that thinks you suck.
Hey, sell them.
You need the money.
Oh, my God.
Bro, that's it.
I was the only thing about the people who got drafted.
Yeah, the guys who went undrafted, fuck.
That's brutal.
They couldn't have sent him to everybody then.
They must have just sent him.
Were there certain people that you don't get to see them on camera?
So I didn't watch the third day.
If I watched the third day, I would know definitively if you got to see the people getting drafted.
Because the first, second, and third round, you pretty much know those guys are going somewhere.
Oh, what was your guys' take on the kicker for the Patriots?
People said he got a racist tattoo or something like that.
I did not hear this.
You didn't hear this story?
Nah, bro.
Oh, yeah.
So he has this tattoo and it's a three-percenter tattoo.
And I guess three percenter is like this kind of like militia movement or something like that.
He says he got it when he was like 17.
And Jamila Hill, of course, she'll sniff out some racism anyway.
So the Patriots just drafted a white supremacist.
I'm sorry.
Someone who likes white supremacist things or something like that.
And yeah, I don't know.
It's just an interesting, it's just an interesting thing.
I know.
It's like he's going to the right team.
Yeah.
But he's like... Boston, ain't no black people really on the squad.
He's like, I'm going to get it covered up.
Blah, blah, blah.
And yeah, there it is right there.
So I guess that's the 3%er tattoo.
My God, how do people find these things?
I mean, they got nothing better to do.
You really don't have anything better.
Even in quarantine, I wouldn't look at a guy's tattoos like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's just weird.
But he was like, I'm going to get it covered up.
I mean, I didn't know that that's what it was when I got it.
What are your thoughts, Alex?
That's kind of weird.
I think it's bullshit, but whatever.
Yeah.
Now he's in the locker room with them.
That's actually a bunch of big black guys.
That's a big old one.
I didn't know.
So yeah, I'm going to get rid of it.
Put him on a bunch of 300-pound black guys.
Oh, that's a fucking nightmare.
Now, what if he changed it from like a 3%er to a 5%er?
5%er?
Yeah.
Like, would that be a good thing?
That's respect, though.
That's respect.
That's real reparations.
No, I'm sorry.
Should we look at all tattoos and see if there's like some offensive things there?
Ain't that some white shit, though?
That's like some prices, right?
Like, where you bid $1 lower than the motherfucker.
You know what I mean?
Like, oh, y'all are 5%ers?
Oh, 3%ers.
But, like, there might be players that have tattoos from like, you know, gangs and gang relation type of shit.
And that could be pretty offensive to people who are victims of gun violence and that kind of stuff.
I'm playing devil's advocate here.
I'm basically saying, like, if we start looking through everybody's tattoos and start finding the things they support, I don't even know anything about this group.
This group could be a militia, some like, like, you know, these motherfuckers that want to like defend America.
Like, they get their own guns and they go do the, like, in Michigan and shit.
You know what I'm talking about?
Yeah, but still, all that shit to me is like, they just appear racist.
Yes.
They do have that racist vibe to them.
Yes.
Even though they don't outwardly say like, oh, fuck black people.
Right.
I think that's a fair assessment.
I just don't know anything about him, so I can't.
I don't want to.
Listen, man, you can't knock this kid's heart.
He's a fucking kicker playing football.
Even in college, you getting that tattoo, you ready.
You ready?
Yeah.
You ready for war, yo?
Yeah.
You around a lot of black people.
I have a feeling, though, as a kicker, you're probably going to be around white people.
Oh, but you're still with the team.
You're on the bus.
You're in yourselves.
Oh, they don't, you're not like a part of the team.
I feel like you're hanging out.
They're completely separate.
Probably, but if they want to get to you, you're in the same locker room.
If they want to get to you, sure.
But they also want to keep their job.
So they're not going to do bullying.
If you had that tattoo and you were a running back, then I'd be like, oh, that might be rough.
Or if you're a linebacker, that might be rough.
But a kicker, nobody's going to pay you any fucking attention anyway.
That might be the one.
Maybe he had it.
Nobody even looked at the guy, so they don't know.
Now that they know, yeah, that's that's the thing.
Now that they know, now he's like, Oh, shit, I didn't know what it was.
I'm gonna get it covered.
What would you get his contributor?
You gotta go five percent.
That's literally all you can do.
That's literally the only move.
What else could you do?
Nah, just be like every other player and get like a Bible scripture or some shit like that.
But I think the most common 36, yeah, some shit.
Maybe three Peter and be like, I just think we're gonna win three straight Super Bowls.
Well, it's not the number three and then a percent sign.
He's like Roman.
It's three dashes, and then they're the stars around it.
And I assume the stars are maybe like the states and the colonies or some shit or whatever it is.
Whatever.
Yeah.
A dollar bill somehow, put a little parliament building over the three dashes.
I mean, maybe that shit a constellation, bro.
That's O'Brien's belt, motherfucker.
Maybe, but it is an interesting story.
Who knows?
Who knows?
Do you think if he goes to another team, not the Patriots, this becomes anything?
Jamil Hill will always make us something.
Yeah.
She'll always find something.
What is her goal with that?
Like, does she think black people don't know that racism exists?
I don't know.
I think she thinks she's doing good, but it also, she's got to know what keeps her career alive.
Yeah.
She got all this shit popping.
She's doing a podcast with Van about the wire.
Yeah.
I just, I don't understand it.
I don't understand the perspective of it.
Like, if you're letting people know that racism exists, but like, who are you notifying?
Are you notifying the racists?
Well, if they're racist, they know racism exists.
The black people know racism exists because they experience it every day.
Like, what is it serving?
What is it doing?
I would say she's pointing it out so people stop that type of behavior.
So if you call the shit out and it brings his awareness.
Do you not realize it doesn't work?
Well, I don't look at this guy's getting.
Yeah, but this guy's getting his tattoo covered.
Yeah, you think he stops being racist because he got his tattoo covered?
No, but I just now want to write a lot of people.
I would say this racist.
And this is something I truly believe.
This is not devil's advocate shit.
I don't think the solution is shame because what you do is you just shove everybody's feelings down inside.
And then when a guy like Trump comes along and is like, yo, you know what?
Here's some racist shit that I'm going to say that I'm not afraid to say.
That party that got pushed down that's just been bubbling this whole time is like, yo, that's the fucking guy.
But that's how you're proud of it.
And those thoughts, when you shove them down, they don't go away.
They just get worse and darker because you can't say anything.
Yeah, but you could also look at it like, oh, the racist person gets ridiculed.
And then other potential racists see it and it's like, oh, shit, I don't want to get ridiculed like that.
Let me not be.
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I understand where they're coming from.
I don't know who's right.
I think Trump got elected for a reason.
It's not just people who are stupid.
People are stupid and you take advantage of their stupidity.
How did he take advantage of their stupidity?
I think a lot of it was the racist rhetoric that felt people felt like I can't say at all.
And they're idiots.
So they're like, well, I can't say anything anymore.
And then this guy comes along, even though you're probably saying some hateful shit.
Now you feel like you can't say anything.
This guy comes along saying a lot.
And you're like, oh, that's, hey, that's my guy.
That's my president.
That's your guy.
I'm just saying this doesn't seem to have worked.
We've been doing it for about 10, 15 years, and the country, if anything, got more divided.
I think that that might be a simplistic view of it.
Possibly.
Because I don't think people vote for presidents as a whole.
I think you vote basically on one or two issues.
Most people do.
Right.
So if like, let's say that there are people who are like part of the Democratic Party, let's say you're like a straight white guy like me who's like, vote Democrat your entire life.
And then you see like the Democrats supporting a lot of rhetoric that or not even literally not even just being quiet about it, but like supporting it.
Like, yeah, we don't want any more white presidents or we need to have people of color.
That's very important to us.
You just start hearing that, right?
And you're like, well, what does that have to do with being like good at the job?
That's weird.
So like, just because I'm born white, I can't be.
That's weird.
That's a weird thing, right?
Someone like me, right, who hears that, and then maybe I'm going out for auditions, right?
I'm going out for auditions for roles, and I hear my agent tell me, yeah, there's really nothing for white, straight guys anymore, like, or every role I get, they turn the character gay.
Yeah.
And then you start to go, like, what's happening right now?
Yeah.
And then the other side is like, yo, why is all that happening?
That all of a sudden becomes enticing to you.
I felt it happened.
I had to check my own self.
I was like, no, no, no, I know where I'm at.
But why am I curious about what's going on over here?
Oh, I know why I'm curious because these people are addressing the things that are directly affecting me.
So I think people got shit confused when they're like, Trump says racist shit.
So everybody's like, I'm racist and we'll vote for him.
I don't think it's that.
I think it's literally the Democrats going, hey, we don't need coal miners anymore.
And then the Republicans going, yeah, well, why can't we just have some coal miners?
Open up the coals.
So what they would do is they've given out and they give a rationale and they've given reasons for the things that other people felt aggrieved by the party that used to stand by them.
That makes a lot of sense to me for the moderate closet Trump supporter.
The guy who was moderate and now is getting pushed a little bit right because they're this left is saying all this shit that doesn't seem to apply to me.
And then this guy's talking.
So I'm not going to say anything.
I'm going to quietly vote for Trump.
I'm actually, at this point right now, let's just talk about the fucking Trump like worshipper, the guy who loves Trump.
But they started like that.
They didn't flip that.
So why Trump over anybody else?
Why Trump over who's here now?
Nah, Romney supporters weren't like this.
Romney supporters were like, yeah, Romney, he's great, whatever.
He likes policies.
I align with his policies more than I do Barack's.
Or maybe I just don't like Barack as Black.
I'm talking about the far right that fucking worships.
What percentage is that?
Bro, I went to a Trump protest of a Trump rally in Minnesota with Abdi.
And these motherfuckers, they filled out the Target Center.
It wasn't like these guys, and they are dug in.
And what makes it worse, what makes you dig in more, is as you're walking to the arena, everybody's shouting at you, calling you a racist in your fucking face.
So what are you going to do in the face of that?
You're going to be like, all right, you know what?
Fuck you.
Trump is even more my guy.
Fuck all of you.
I watch these guys just dig in.
Yeah, and that's a reasonable thing to do, right?
And that's to the same culture of shame and whatever not being effective.
You're just making these guys dig in.
No, no, it is.
It's effective for the opposite.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's not weeding out racism, is my point.
By shaming you, you are pushing that person towards love.
Yeah.
Where is the love?
Trump.
Right, exactly.
But to fill out that arena, there might be people in that arena who just believe that abortion should be illegal.
You're not going to a rally.
Yes, you are.
You are.
So that's the thing.
This is where I think you're a little naive in terms of how you think about politics.
It's like most people are one-issue voters.
You have to allow them to care about something you don't care about.
They care about that thing.
No, I can understand that.
Like you care about India.
Like you're a one-issue voter on India, I imagine.
And if one president was like, yo, we need to bomb India, no matter what other things he aligned with, would you vote for him?
What's he doing with Pop?
But for real.
No, for real.
But just take that up.
No, I'm out.
You're out, right?
So they feel that exact way about certain issues.
And then the fact that someone is speaking up for that issue, it's just as valuable to them.
Now, don't get me wrong.
There are racists out there that are like, fuck yeah, you're saying some shit that echoes my sentiments about race.
100%.
But I think there are other issues that they're saying things that they're echoing feelings that they have that aren't satisfied anywhere else, similar to you with the India situation, that they're being supportive of.
Like, that's why Jews started voting for Trump because he was like, yo, Israel, we got your back.
And they felt the Democratic Party didn't have their back.
They're not, do you think Jews are doing it for the same racist reasons as the people filling up those?
No, what I'm saying is, I think if you go to, and maybe, and let's, okay, I'll assume you're right.
I think when you bury a person's, any like, if you want to actually get a person to not be a racist, I don't think you shame them.
I think you expose them, you talk to them, not expose in a bad way, expose them to the other side.
Yeah.
Expose them if you're homophobic and you get exposed to gay people and you're like, oh, they're not bad.
Yes.
I think that kind of exposure is good.
But just shaming, even if you have any slight racist feeling, I can't talk about it at all.
I can't have a discourse without being shouted down.
Now the feelings get darker and darker.
And then my one issue becomes racism.
So I'm a one issue.
This guy, these guys are too progressive.
This guy, he's racist enough.
Let's go.
That's my guy.
So I don't know if racist, I don't think it's an issue.
I think Trump said a lot of shit that's at least, to use the liberal term, problematic.
And those, there's a lot of people who are like, I like that this guy says it and isn't afraid.
That's my guy.
Says what?
Says whatever.
Says these Mexicans are coming over and they're raping and blah, blah, blah.
Whatever.
He says the truth.
To them, it's the truth.
So, so you think that him speaking about Mexicans coming over and raping was more valuable to people than people who live on border states and maybe feel as if their jobs are limited because illegal immigrants are taking the jobs.
I don't know if it's the most valuable thing.
I think it's a definite factor.
No, I'm asking about those specific things right there.
What is more valuable in terms of switching your vote?
I don't know.
What do you think is more likely?
Logically, I would say policy.
Emotionally, I understand a lot of people, I think, vote.
There's one policy voter.
I also think there is the Chappelle thing.
I don't look at a president's politics.
I look at him as a person.
Right.
And I think a lot of people are aligned with that.
Right.
I guess what I'm trying to say is like, I agree with you in terms of what we look at people as a person.
And this is a popularity contest.
These people are not good at anything.
They have no real skills.
Right.
And I think that a guy like Trump is very funny, and that really matters to a lot of people.
And they'll justify the things that he's funny about because they value, let's say, funny.
Just like Obama was incredibly charming, right?
And they would justify anything.
I've justified shit that Obama did that is pretty awful because I'm so charmed by him and I like the guy so much and he's so fun, right?
So I think at the end of the day, that's where our core goes.
But in terms of why people are voting for him, I think the amount of Americans that are like every Mexican that comes over is raping people are very small.
I think the majority of people that are voting based on an immigration policy is simply, I think my job is being taken.
I used to wash dishes and now I can't get a job washing dishes.
I used to do lawn work.
Now I can't get a job doing long work.
Even if that's complete bullshit, they're convinced that's why, rather than I think every Mexican is a rapist.
My point is just this shame culture doesn't help.
I don't think it's the only thing that got Trump.
No, no, I agree with you.
I agree with you.
And we're on the same page about where it pushes people and how it radicalizes people.
100% on the same page.
And you're going to go wherever the love is.
And then once you feel the love, you start to go along with the things that people in that circle agree with, right?
I can agree with that.
Yeah.
Once someone loves you, it's like Joe Exotic.
It's like Joe Exotic finds these fucking meth heads, right?
They've never experienced any love.
He finds these like weird drug addicts, never experienced it.
And then he brings them in.
He loves them.
He feeds them.
He gives them a family.
He gives them community, right?
And then he's also like, yo, we got to kill that tiger that you race.
Okay, Joe, whatever you say, Joe.
And I can change, I can shift my point to that.
If you're going to shame this guy, and everybody said, and I've said this too, another thing that I, maybe a bigger thing, if you're going to tell white people in middle America, you got privilege, you have no idea how good you have it.
And they're like, what are you talking about?
I work in a fucking coal mine, suck my dick.
And then one guy comes along and is like, yo, white people in middle America got it rough.
That's my guy.
That's my guy.
So I didn't think that was the only factor.
And maybe not even the main factor.
It is a factor.
Maybe this is a main factor.
I agree with both.
Race is a factor in everything.
I'm never going to be the person that's going to come here and say that race isn't a factor in everything in life, 100%.
But I truly believe at the end of the day that when people, there are people like fucking racist groups, KKK, that are literally just looking at the candidates, like, who hates minorities more?
I'm voting for them.
I think the majority of voters, though, have an issue that's really valuable to them, right?
And then they'll defend the person that supports that issue at whatever cost.
So let's say that abortion is that issue.
Trump's like, we got to get rid of abortion.
All these people who are anti-abortion were like, that's my guy.
And then Trump says some shit about Mexicans are rapists.
And then they'll go, I was out of context.
He didn't really say, he's the type of guy to say some wild shit, but he don't really mean it.
They're defending someone that just believes the same thing about abortion.
They don't give a fuck about what he says about Mexicans because they don't have another option to vote for.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
Yeah, I see what you're saying.
You know, a thought I had is interesting.
They say like the, you know, like the Martin Luther King thing, the answer to hate is love.
Yeah.
That's really what most people who hate, they just need some love.
And it isn't, it is really hard to hate a group of people that just like keep loving you.
Like if black people were just like, yo, we fucking love Trump openly love Trump.
If Trump was racist, it's hard to be like, fight a racist.
It's not named Trump.
A KKK guy.
Black people say, yo, we love you, yo.
Not that you need to, but like this answer of shouting down everybody and screaming down everybody because they don't believe what you believe.
That's just not going to work.
All you guys got to do is agree on one thing and then you can be friends.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, I've seen this happen with these people that pop up and become, you know, pseudo-celebrities in like the political intellectual world.
But like a guy like Ben Shapiro pops up, right?
Like southern rednecks love Ben Shapiro.
Before Ben Shapiro, they probably had some thoughts about Jews that were not the best things in the world.
Right?
But all of a sudden, Shapiro becomes this like godlike figure to them.
Why?
Because he agrees with them.
And speaks to them.
Not only does he agree with them and speak to them, he's given them weaponry to fight against the side that's trying to hold them down.
Right, right.
Right?
So it's like these hillbillies are like, man, these Democrats are calling us racist, calling us all these things, saying we have white privilege, that kind of shit.
I don't have a white privilege.
What the fuck?
And then Shapiro goes, well, there's no such thing as about white privilege when you really think privilege is a dichotomy.
He gives this like fancy explanation for it.
And all of a sudden they're like, oh, that's right.
I could use that.
You gave me some artillery to go against those guys that are trying to make me look stupid.
Right.
And those guys that would give these great arguments, these people who couldn't come up with the arguments really themselves, become celebs, even though three, four years ago, those exact people might have some horrible things to say about Jews.
You agree on one thing, all of a sudden they're your guy.
I agree with that.
Right?
And then you go, well, what do you think about, then you ask these like Southern Christians or whatever.
You go, hey, well, what do you think about Shapiro's belief in God and how he feels about Christians going to hell?
I mean, everybody's allowed to have that.
Before that, he's fucking wrong.
Jesus is the Savior.
So it's like, whatever.
We don't have to get too far into it, but it is interesting.
I agree with you.
Shame can radicalize.
It is a poor way of getting people.
That's my point.
100%.
This ain't the answer.
I'm not going to say I got the answer.
I know exactly what it is.
But I know this ain't it.
This ain't helping.
So why do you keep doing it?
What do you think the best answer is?
I mean, it's hard to do, but if you can, I think if you can have an actual conversation with a person, and I don't know if I'm capable of doing it, but like...
It's exposure, like you were saying.
Yeah.
That's the only way.
Let me hear you out and let me talk to you and let's have an actual conversation.
I don't know if either side is willing to do it.
Martin Luther King.
Martin Luther King King.
Yeah.
White kids, black kids, Asian kids, all hang out together.
It's like that Daryl Davis shit.
Yeah.
Literally, he goes in and just like talks to him.
The black guy who like gets KKK dudes to leave the KKK.
Really?
It's like this black jazz.
You didn't hear about this guy?
No, I didn't know.
They made a documentary about him.
Yeah, he was a rogue.
He's got like all these clan robes that he got from.
They give him the rope.
The clan.
They leave the clan.
Because the guys in the clan, like not all of them are like dude, huh?
So take this, take this.
I don't think like all people in the clan are people that are racist.
Like, oh, we all hate black people.
It's like, no, this is just the place that gives me dopamine.
You know what I mean?
Like, this is the place that gives me love.
And you could be addicted to love like any other drug.
So in a way, like Joe Exotic's people are addicted to meth.
Like, these guys are addicted to the love that they get from this group.
And feeling worse.
Like, if you tell me white people, if I feel like shit and you tell me white people are superior, oh, fuck.
Okay, man.
There we go.
So again, so the thing that you need is not you want to hate black people.
The thing you need is you want to feel good about yourself.
Now, once that person makes you feel good, they're also like, yo, guess what?
We hate black people.
And then they're like, hey, whatever.
I mean, okay.
Whatever the cost of not feeling like a piece of shit is worth it.
It's worth it.
And then all of a sudden, some black guy can come in and say, yo, you can feel good without them.
You can feel good with other people.
And then gives you exposure to what another culture is like.
And defies the stereotypes of black people that these guys have been selling to you.
I just don't know.
The smart guy is intellectual.
He has a good conversation.
You guys have tons of shit in common.
It's like, oh, shit.
It starts out with, well, you're not one of them.
You're different.
And then he goes, nah, this is just how we are.
People are different.
No one's ever changed their mind for feeling stupid.
You got to send me a link on this dude.
I got to say that.
Daryl Davis.
No one's ever changed their mind for feeling stupid.
Yeah.
You got to highlight something like that.
Yeah, be hot.
I would be hot.
But I think it's true, though.
I don't think making someone feel stupid has ever made someone change their mind.
Think about Joe Exotic got straight guys to fuck him.
Yeah.
Not because they were sexually into it, but because he gave them love for probably the first time in their fucking lives.
So they were willing to trade their ass for that love, man.
That's how powerful that love shit is.
And when you shame someone, you're actually evaporating whatever shred of confidence they have left.
So now they're even more vulnerable to being radicalized.
But that's like the Rodman dog.
Like we're watching the Rodman 30 for 30.
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Like he was rejected by everybody.
His only friend was like this 13-year-old white kid.
That's why I said yesterday.
He just wanted love, man.
That's it.
He just wanted love.
And I didn't, even though we were having a little debate yesterday, there was another story I thought of after, which is like, I think he just wanted love.
Andrea Kramer had a story.
I think it was Andrew Kramer in the Jordan dock where she was like, the thing people don't understand about Robin is he didn't like being hated.
We were going into an arena and everybody was booing him.
And he looked at me with tears in his eyes and said, why are they booing me?
Yeah.
He just wanted love.
And I think that's why when Scotty came back and Jordan had his sidekick and Rodman got shoved down the totem pole, he was like, I can't do this, man.
I'm going to Vegas.
I just, just come get me because I'm not coming back.
I need you to come get me to prove you love me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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I'm good.
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