Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh interview Trevor Wallace, dissecting media consolidation where influencers will soon command fees like movie stars. They critique James Dolan's alleged racism against the Knicks, mock mandatory tipping culture in coffee shops, and analyze TikTok's data risks versus future streaming monopolies. Ultimately, the episode argues that creators must farm audiences across platforms to leverage their personal brands against consolidating giants. [Automatically generated summary]
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Real quick, if you're tuning into this show right now, because you saw our guest, we have a great guest this week, Trevor Wallace.
That interview is after this section of the show.
And you know what?
I'll probably do is I'll probably tell you when that will start when we know.
We're recording this one right now, so I don't know how long this is.
But why don't you tune the fuck in for this as well?
Trevor's a great guy, really understands new media.
He's killing it out there.
And I wanted to sit down with him.
And we did that at the end of this episode.
But right now, we're going to get this flagrancy started.
Akash Singh, right off of a hot headlining weekend.
How are you feeling, my friend?
So dope, man.
So dope.
San Diego sold out.
Yeah.
This is my first time selling out like one of the club clubs.
Like not something I booked on my own or something I went back home for.
Yeah.
And a real club.
In the day room in San Diego, man.
And it was cool because I assumed, and it was still mainly assholes, but there's more and more people that are like, oh, I saw you from your YouTube.
And then you can tell them about the podcast because they're like, what's that sign everybody's throwing up?
And it was cool to just have people coming out from like one older black dude was like, let me ask you a question.
And he was kind of aggressive.
I was like, what's up?
And he was like, you talk about R. Kelly?
And that was fun.
And then Tempe, Tempe, I booked pretty late.
So I didn't, I didn't, on a Sunday.
I didn't think that many people were.
Tempe is like a suburb of Phoenix, Arizona anyway, who's listening, but they got a great comedy club, the Tempe improv.
Great comedy club.
It's the best I've been treated at a comedy club ever, probably.
But then a good number of people came out.
They were super fun last night.
Yes, everybody came out.
Sorry to miss the Trevor interview, but it's all good.
But yo, so fun, man.
Thank you.
Everybody came out.
It's just like a cool thing to see a building and coming together.
It's dope, man.
It's good to see you, man.
Congratulations.
You were anti-social early this year.
I know.
It took a lot of work.
It took a full intervention.
The fire has been lit.
You're running with her.
I like seeing it happen.
What else you got coming up, Akash?
Where can they see you?
And you heard about them sellouts, so get them tickets early up.
This Thursday.
Tickets are still available for Hartford, Connecticut at the Funnybone.
That's this Thursday.
After that, let me look it up.
I am in Mumbai the 20th and 21st at the Habitat Comedy Club.
Then in the new year, I am at Hilarities in Cleveland on January 9th.
The Stress Factory in New Brunswick.
Thank you for that.
I heard about this.
Hilarities in Cleveland.
We did that.
Al.
That is such a fun room.
Really?
It's a really good room.
Yeah, and it's massive.
I mean, I don't know, what, 400?
Four and changes.
Maybe four and changes.
Come through, assholes.
It's a big room.
They gave me one of their nights.
It's supposed to be like their off night.
Just like, see what you can do.
So assholes come through.
Let's pull up, man.
Nice.
So, yeah, there then, Stress Factory on January 14th and 2015.
Love the Stress Factory, man.
And the next day, Philly, hometown of my wifey, come through, you monsters.
January 15th.
Helium Comedy Club.
That's good, man.
Good shit.
Go check all that out.
I got to give a shout out to the History Hyenas podcast.
Yanni Poppy, Chrissy D.
And they had a live show at Grammar C Theater in New York.
So they sold out the Grammar C Theater in New York.
That's a really big accomplishment.
It's just really cool to see what they're building.
And, you know, I love it.
I love it when good guys, when good things happen to good guys, man.
So keep on supporting.
Two real good fighting guys.
Love them.
They're good dudes, man.
I love them.
And so, yeah.
And, Caz, what do you got going on, man?
What else happening?
Oh, shit.
I'm doing something really cool with Pepsi tomorrow and the New York Jets.
I can't divulge it all the way, but you'll see it at the end of the week.
It's really tight.
Just did a great interview with the New York Post and Big Apple Buckets with Jamal Crawford today, which is really awesome.
Still not on a team.
Still not on the team.
We talked about that a lot, which is really cool.
But he was a great talk.
Obviously, December 13th, Duce Palooza, Brooklyn, New York tickets are flying.
We haven't even announced the fucking headliners yet, but when we do, we're trying to sell that place out, man.
If we sell out Barclays, man.
Come through.
Sell out Barclays.
This is so wild.
Please, bro.
We're going to make that.
We're going to make history.
What would be the number to sell out Barclays?
I think it's 17,000, I think, around there.
If y'all sell out Barclays without having anybody perform, that is the greatest hustle in the history of the world.
But we got people performing.
We got some big names coming.
We're still trying to figure this shit out.
They think Creflo Dollar is hustling, man.
Let me tell you, Douce Palooza is the greatest hustle because you go and you actually enjoy it.
Because you're going to give me a bunch of people.
Why the fuck am I enjoying this thing?
Creflo Dollar.
You ever watch Creflo Dollar?
Creflo make you feel like you're going to get rich, bro.
There's a reason why he got a plane, bro.
He makes you feel guilty.
Who?
Creflo, yeah.
Does he?
I was never moved by Creflo.
Nah, him and what's he called?
What's the home?
I don't know why I'm acting like I've seen him.
What's the guy with the big teeth that smiles all the time?
Why did I even say that?
Steve Harvey.
Steve Harvey.
Oh, shit.
The white dude, the white Creflo.
What's his name?
Oh, Joel Austin.
Joel Austin.
Joel Austin make you feel away, bro.
Oh, man.
Joel Austin make you go, hey, maybe they didn't need shelter.
They live in Houston.
They can swim.
Just give yourself to Christ.
Just give yourself.
I'm like, dude, yo, man.
Joel Austin knows what he's doing.
He's a hustler, man.
Joel, bro.
Shout out to Joel.
Shout out to Joel.
You know what I mean?
I mean, maybe God, maybe that's what...
Why do we act like God don't like money?
Maybe God likes money, bro.
Maybe we're going to be able to do that.
He wants you to thrive, dog.
Yeah, God don't want you to be broke.
What God would want you to be broke?
Oh, God.
Be good with the money.
Do good with the money.
Help some people out.
I don't see why not.
I don't see why not.
Why would God want you to struggle?
I think if you're hoarding, I think if you're a billionaire and like...
Yo, we got to stop this billionaire hate.
If you're paying your fucking hate billionaire hate, bro.
Yo, I hate billionaire hate.
Listen, I'm not saying I don't want to be a billionaire.
I'd love to be one.
That's the thing.
Everybody hate a billionaire until they become one.
Like this goofy bitch, Elizabeth Warren, is all like, she's so fucking goofy, yo.
And this dumbass, she's doing this whole...
Listen, whatever.
Let's just get into it.
So she's doing this whole like billionaires got to go.
I think so.
Yeah, I shouted some of this bitch.
This bitch got a golden thought.
She looked like an old boxer, bro.
She looked like a journeyman boxer.
Get a picture up of this chick, yo.
She's been punched in the head far too many times to run for president.
If you look at her face in this picture, tell me she don't look like she's been boxing.
Look at that face right there.
Yo, you know who she kind of looks like?
She kind of has a lot of teddy outlets.
She kind of looks like the great shit.
Don't she look like what was that movie?
Uh, Mickey Ward.
She looked like Mickey Ward.
Dog.
Remember the fighter who had somebody made himself?
No, no, no, that's Mickey Rourke.
Mickey Rourke.
Mickey Ward fought.
Mickey Rourke looks like shit.
Look at my Mickey Ward.
Son, that's Elizabeth Warren.
That's hilarious.
That's the same person.
To me, she looked like Tweety Bird's grandma.
Speaking of billionaires, so real quick.
So here you have this chick right here is talking about all this billionaires, billionaires are the problem, bills and this.
You know how much money this bitch made last year?
$900,000.
So she's a millionaire, right?
She got to shit on billionaires because that's the only way to make herself relatable to the poor motherfuckers in the world.
You not, you are way closer to billionaire than you are to poor person.
Stop talking about the working class.
Stop talking about all this shit.
I love, you know, this is the shit that like just fucking riles me up, right?
There's no rule that you can't pay more in taxes.
Yeah.
You know, that, like, if you go, hey, U.S. government, I know it's only 30%, but here's 50% because I believe in it.
Yeah.
Is she doing that?
No.
Bill Gates does that.
That's why I fuck with Bill Gates.
Bill Gates don't do that.
Don't believe Bill Gates from the broader.
Bill Gates.
Well, at least Bill Gates became a billionaire.
He became a billionaire from making something like actually fucking useful to the world.
I bet he's like, he made like Word docs and Excel sheets and shit.
I can fuck with that.
But like you're a billionaire off of like you know how they say like you know how they say like 1% of America has 50% of the wealth or whatever that who cares for the actual numbers.
I bet if you compare the amount of tax that each pays, the 1% pays less in actual tax dollars than the 50%.
Can I ask y'all something?
Because they find a way around every tax law.
Of course they do.
And here's the thing I'm trying to understand, right?
The 1% of everything is always the best.
For example, like 1% of people that are good at basketball play it in the NBA.
Does that mean we should get rid of NBA?
Oh, they should give back half their careers to shittier players.
Why I Trust Bill Gates00:09:55
Do you know what I'm saying?
I see the point.
12% of musicians are the ones that get a Grammy are making real money.
The other 99.9% of the entertainment business.
Yo, real talk.
We're 1% of the entertainment business.
But furthermore, like the 1% model is how every business functions.
Like 1% of sword fighters are still alive.
Maybe that's a bad example, but 1% of magicians are making money.
The rest of them are on a fucking carnival cruise, right?
I hear you.
So, like, what?
Why are we doing this?
We hate the 1% shit.
Well, we know that's how it functions in every other country.
I don't believe anything.
That's the reason why I hate stats.
That can make you literally believe anything.
Yeah, numbers lie is a lie.
Numbers lie.
Numbers lying like a motherfucker.
Numbers lie more than any cheating ass bitch in the American.
That's facts.
That's facts.
Right?
So there's something.
Numbers like a Kardashian, yo.
You can't trust them for nothing.
But that's what they do.
They get you to believe.
Motherfuckers just say shit and then you believe it because it sounds right.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Like, I don't know if we even spoke about this, but about how they made up that fucking lie that a man's G-spot is in his asshole.
Do you know that?
Yeah, that is a lie.
That's fame.
That's an absolute fucking fish.
That's gays made that up in women.
So they can fuck your asshole and put their fingers in it.
They thought that shit was cute.
Son, I asked a doctor.
Yeah.
I was like, yo, and that's an awkward question to ask a doctor.
Male G-spot in your life.
I was like, yo, is it true to male G-spots in your asshole?
Nah, that's just your colon.
They're just pushing it.
Son, it's not even your colon.
It's your Prostate.
And you do have liquid come out, but it's just prostate juice.
It has not come.
It's prostate juice.
So there's no sperm in it.
So there's dudes out here getting their asses fingered, trying to front.
They just wanted to get their ass fingered.
Yes.
It's one of the excuse.
But they say the male G spots in the asshole.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
That's fucked up.
Woman can't tell the difference between what's coming.
What's colon?
What's prostate?
Prostate.
Prostate puss.
I mean, I think the exaction methods are pretty different.
I would hope so.
I mean, shit.
How are you going to say it?
Stop taking fingers in your ass for mythology.
Stop hating one person.
I only want my finger in my ass one time in my life, and that's going to see the motherfucking doctor.
What's the fucking name?
The proctologist.
The proctologist.
There you go.
Son, Patrice New had the best joke about that shit.
He was like, he goes, man, we don't see the doctor, man.
I would rather my prostate be hanging out my ass than actually go to the doctor.
Matter of fact, my prostate would be hanging out my ass for two weeks.
I call my boy like, yo, yeah, I just got a duct taped up there.
Should I do something about this?
Before I actually go to the doctor.
It's so true.
All I'm trying to say is that that shit got me riled up, man, about this.
I guess there's only one way to punch.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like, there's only one way to punch is up.
And when you're that close, like, when you're a millionaire and you're a billionaire, like, there really ain't that much of a difference in lifestyle.
How much extra shit could you buy?
How many more cars do you need?
Exactly.
You got the cars.
And then she, I just, it's just, you know what it is?
I mean, fraudulence drives me fucking crazy.
Yeah.
And I think that's what people, I think that's why people overlook a lot of shit about Trump because they're like, at least he's not fucking lying to my face like I'm an idiot.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, or he's lying so blatantly that it's like, yeah, I was about to say that.
That's kind of where I, that's kind of where, not, I fuck with Trump.
Because he doesn't lie about his shittiness.
Like, for example, there's a small part of me that's going to miss him when he's not president no more just because of the antics.
Yeah.
And just knowing that he just lies so much and he's just so fucking he like, you ever think of the motherfucker where it's like, yo, this is the guy with the nuclear codes, right?
If this motherfucker really had them shits, he'd be tweeting about that shit all the fucking time.
But he doesn't because he doesn't have that thing in him that most people have where it's like, oh my God, you can't say that.
You can't say this.
He just fucking says it.
You know what I think it is about Trump?
He says goofy bitch Elizabeth Warren ain't got the fucking nuclear codes, probably bombing Mark Cuban and all the rest of the billionaires in America.
You know what I think it is?
We don't want to feel deceived.
Even if Trump lies, we know who Trump is.
We know.
He's such a overt, ridiculous liar.
Warren talking all this shit about everybody else and you make $900,000 a year and you're a 116th Native American and you're hustling that to get scholarships.
Like, you're just like me.
Don't pretend you're some shit.
Like, don't try to deceive me.
Trump is like, it's almost like a special aid kid lying or something.
But what?
But what?
What is he?
Okay, put it.
I don't want this to seem like a defend Trump thing.
What I'm trying to defend is like, I'm trying to explain why people are drawn to him opposed to like these other figures.
We don't like people that front like they're better than they are.
Correct.
Right?
Like, one of the reasons this show is great is because we don't come in here with moral standards.
Oh, we'll never disappoint you.
That's the best thing about Player 2.
We'll talk our shit.
You'll never read something in the blog.
Like, damn, that doesn't sound like my Andrew Rockhops.
Like, I'm not worried about it.
What are they really going to say about us in a blog?
No, they said something racist on the show.
Shocking.
Find an episode where we didn't.
That's the news story.
Put that on the New York Times.
Yo, one episode, they didn't make fun of Chinese.
So the thing about, because I was watching this, did you see Donald Trump Jr. on The View?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I heard, I listened to it.
He got a book.
He got a book, but there was like this big, like, this big old thing.
And one thing I realize about Trump and now about Trump Jr., and it's way more obvious in Trump Jr. than it is Trump because he's not as good at it.
Right.
But this is what Trump knows that never was seen before in politicians.
He knows they're all scum bags.
They're the biggest scum bags of the world.
They're all sociopaths.
No, You could be a sociopath and not hurt people.
Every one of them is a sociopath that hurts people.
Oh, yeah.
That has personally affected the lives of millions of people.
Right?
So he knows that.
So when any of them talk shit, he's chomping at the bit.
He's like, I've been giving you money under the table for 40 years.
What are you going to say?
You're going to say I'm crazy.
You're going to say I'm corrupt.
Like when they said, you don't think when they said the Ukraine shit about him, he was like, oh, word, Joe, you want to play this game?
Well, you got your son making 80 grand a year a month working for this Ukrainian company.
He don't even speak Russian or Ukrainian.
He don't understand anything about what you want to talk about me in Ukraine.
So his whole strategy is, you talk shit about me.
I'm not even going to defend me.
I'm going to show how you ain't shit.
You don't need to defend yourself if you ain't shit.
It's like when your girl goes, why'd you like that picture?
And you'd be like, yeah, but remember when you liked fucking The Rock's picture?
Why you gotta like The Rock?
Sounds personal.
You know what I'm saying?
We all been there.
We all been there.
Trust me, I've been there.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, it is.
He got dirt on everybody.
Son of the president of the United States.
Junior is on, is on the view, and these girls are going at him.
And he just goes, we're really going to talk about civility.
He goes, Joy Behar, you wore blackface.
Whoopee, you defended.
He goes, whoopee, you defended Roman Polanski.
You said it wasn't rape, rape, about a 15-year-old girl that was raped.
Now, I would love to hear that clip.
That being said, what they gonna say?
What they melt.
He said this live on his.
Live.
Oh, I gotta watch that.
Son, it's wild.
It's not as good as you think it because they're all talking over each other.
Like everybody's so eager to go at him.
He handles that shit pretty well, though, to be honest with you.
Real talk, look how many people there are there.
Look how many people there in this room.
We barely talk to each other.
You put six girls in the same room.
It's women.
That's what I'm saying.
They don't understand.
They literally have a bell there to stop them from talking.
Ding, ding, ding.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's not brunch.
So that's the bop, bop, bop.
That's where I got it from.
They got to treat them like cats.
Dinner's ready.
It's just, it's just something so refreshing about being ain't shit.
Oh, yeah.
Openly ain't shit.
Openly ain't shit shit.
I wanted to buy the domain.
I ain't shit.com.
That's me.
Yo, you ain't never going to see me pretending I'm a good person.
Bro, I just, and I think that's what we finally reached like a fever pitch with is as like the PC woke shit got crazy and hit mainstream culture because there's always been like woke people.
This has always existed.
This is not new.
There always will be.
And there always will be.
But they were a little bit more of like a fringe group, right?
And then once it became mainstream, we were like, you know what it was?
Hold on.
You think, wait, you think you're really going to go on TV and act like you ain't shit like me?
The audacity of you.
And then Trump comes over.
He's like, yo, them Mexicans be raping.
And then people at home be like, some probably rape.
I don't think, you know what I'm saying?
Motherfucker.
Like, you start justifying.
You'd be like, Hector raped.
Remember Hector?
Remember Hector in the high school?
That motherfucker was raping.
You know what I mean?
I said there in the Arizona show, I was like, I saw some people from Oregon.
So I was like, oh, you guys are the white people who actually like Mexicans.
And then I was like, in Arizona's defense, you don't really got to deal with Mexicans.
They got a different perspective, and they be dealing with them out there in Arizona.
Well, in Arizona.
They be building walls.
Yeah.
And I was like, maybe Mexican is just that annoying.
Trump Justifies Racism00:13:07
You don't know.
You in Oregon.
Son, it's this shit that we always do.
It's like this, like New York and California people.
Like, low-key, let me tell you why I'm the hypocrite.
I don't care about global warming, right?
Because it ain't going to affect me.
It's like all this, like, the sea is going to override and everything.
It's like, where?
Where's that going to happen?
That's not going to happen to me.
Right?
It doesn't.
So it doesn't really pertain to my life that much.
But I can admit I ain't shit.
I can say on a podcast to hundreds of thousands of people, I don't care about them.
I don't know who you are.
Fucking Eskimos.
Owing who you are.
I've never seen one Eskimo.
Why should I care?
Son, why shouldn't you?
You know how racist they are?
They probably think you're a fucking bear, bro.
They don't know.
The grizzly is coming.
100% of the euros for snow and bears.
Son, they're wearing you as a fur, bro.
Fuck Eskimos, bro.
They're probably going to be a little bit more.
Here's my one question about taxing billionaires.
Is the solution for the country, let me give this money to the government?
They're going to use it well.
Son.
Like, that's your big fucking answer?
Real time.
You give more money to you.
You couldn't be right.
You couldn't be more right.
This is the answer, huh?
Son.
The least efficient, most bureaucratic organization in the entire country.
Yeah, motherfuckers are going to be able to get it.
The motherfuckers that run the RCA.
You run the MTA.
How does traffic on this train?
Dog.
It's just one.
It's just one leave.
How you got traffic?
And not even.
Son, I'm not going to be careful.
I'm not going to put on this shit.
I'm going crazy.
I'm not even going to speak on the logistics of it.
Here's what I know, though.
I moved to New York 10 years ago.
It was $82 a month for a subway pass.
Now it's like $115.
Service has gotten worse.
Costs have gone up like 30, 40%.
So if service gets worse and you're charging me more money, why would I trust you with more money?
But they got those cute little Apple Pay things now.
Yo, son, I'm not going to lie.
I'm going to pay kind of lit.
But I will say this.
Incredible point about the astonishing increase in price in the last fucking 10 years.
And they're going broke.
It's absurd.
They're still going broke.
Let me ask you this.
If we were on a fucking chairlift skiing, right?
And the chairlift people said, hold on, there's a little traffic on the chairlist, right?
You'd be like, what you mean is traffic.
It's just one thing.
It just goes up and it comes down.
It can't be traffic because it just goes up and it comes down, right?
Like that would be the answer, right?
You cannot physically have traffic because it's just one.
Whenever I see traffic, it's when four lanes turn into two.
Yeah, but you always have to.
There's more people at the ski lift or whatever.
Ski lift.
Who doesn't know how to get off the fucking thing?
Yeah.
And then they have to stop it because that motherfucker falls right at the same time.
And they're smart and they stop the whole shit.
Yeah.
They don't let the whole shit go and then it backs up.
And then we got 14 lifts about to go and then more accidents happen.
That's what trade traffic is.
That's trade traffic.
They should do stop the whole shit.
Did they just stop the train?
Did they just close the door and be like, yo, you can't stop it?
Remember when we were young and we had the little train tracks and you had the little cars set up on the train tracks?
There was traffic there?
You ain't never was, you never in your life were playing with your train tracks and you're like, mom!
Oh my gosh.
That's too much traffic.
I don't expect how simple he can make shit sound with not making any sense.
I'm saying is you have to be next level retard to make traffic on yo.
When the guy on the mic goes there's a little traffic ahead, how?
How is traffic ahead?
Let me guess how many trains is ahead.
One, because that's how many could fit.
It makes me go fucking crazy.
How many, like, how could there be traffic?
Guys look look ready look there's, there's two, there's one track and there's only.
Yeah, let's do a visual.
Ready, there's one track right, here's one train, there's traffic ahead.
You telling me we got that.
You telling me we got one on top of the other.
Is that what managed to happen?
Did we manage at Union Square to get two, four trains on top of each other?
Because otherwise it's impossible to have traffic.
It's not possible.
When they say it, I go crazy.
When they say it, I lose my mind.
When they say they want to knock on the door, I go prove it.
Prove it.
Show me a picture of the traffic show.
I want to see picture of a bunch of guys in the front of the traffic, like all the train drivers.
Son, this is how you know.
There's no traffic.
They ain't got horns on the train, because the people who made the train don't think of the two.
That's emergency.
I'm talking about Bbeep.
They don't got bbeep.
Let me tell you why they ain't got no bb.
Because the people who the people who made trains knew there wasn't gonna be no fucking traffic, right?
They probably asked him, like yo, should we put a bbe?
And he goes, how could there be traffic?
It's one link.
And then these retards managed to find a way to make traffic.
MAKE Traffic Authority.
That's what MTA stands for.
That's what it stands for.
MAKE Traffic Authority.
How you manage to make traffic?
Yo, it's like if a movie started late at the movie theater, just press play, just pause the movie supposed to start eight.
Hey, guess what you do at eight play.
I'm sorry the movie's running a little late.
Take your finger and press play, and then it's on time.
Yo, you had a lot of flagrant takes.
And if we let this goofy bitch, Elizabeth Warn, run a fucking mt this bitch out here running the MTA just imagine.
Just imagine what's gonna happen.
Yo, you know what blew my mind.
I was stuck.
I was supposed to do brilliant Idiots.
One time I got stuck on the train for 50 minutes in the middle of the track between 18th street and 23rd street.
That's five blocks.
The idea somebody got hit by a train so they stopped everything.
Okay fine, you can't take us to the next stop and let everybody off the train.
You got to hold us there for 50 minutes yo, and trapped.
You can't walk in between subscribers.
I was about to say, were you in between the stops?
This diabetic had to piss in a fucking milk jug because he couldn't even go into the middle of the peat, and he brought up that he was diabetic too when it had nothing to do with peeing.
Yeah, I think they got to pee a lot if they diabetic, Really.
What?
I think so, yeah.
I thought they just can't eat syrup.
Alex, you're a female doctor.
You a fucking doctor, Alex.
You know about this shit.
No, he's a doctor.
He's a nurse.
I'm a female doctor.
He's a female doctor.
Also known as a...
The big mercy.
Son, so they stop the fucking trains, right?
When somebody jumps in the track.
How many people need to jump in a train track before we just put a little something?
It's not even a million.
I mean, you got a little something?
Son, they don't let you go in.
No.
Right?
Yeah.
They don't let you go in.
So how, look, look at, ready?
Look at ready?
Literally, all it is?
It's literally only this.
It's not even that crazy.
Screen.
Yeah.
It's a screen door.
It's a screen door.
Just put it across the whole tracks.
Then we don't have any excuse to be late.
You're severely underestimating the ingenuity of crackheads.
Son, crackheads want to live so they could do more crack.
When they ever tried to die.
Honestly, I don't really care if crackheads get hit.
I'm talking about human beings.
That's a crackhead or two go.
That's fine.
Yo, these people.
If a few crackheads got to die.
No, no, no.
We got to talk about this.
How dare you, as a New Yorker, jump in front of a subway to kill yourself?
That is the most selfish fucking way to kill all these buildings you could jump out of, and nobody would fucking care, and their day wouldn't be ruined.
But the fact that you want to take your life and then ruin my fucking day.
Oh my God.
Like, maybe you should die because these types of people that are that selfish, they don't need to be around.
At least do it at night when the trains come like every 10 minutes and shit.
You know when you could do it in rush hour?
How about this?
The last train that's going to Williamsburg to L before that shit shut down for Saturday, Sunday.
Kill yourself on that one.
We got to have certain times where you could go.
But this idea, like, literally, think of the type of person that jumps in front of the train track.
They got peak hours off peak and suicide hours.
We need suicide hours.
We need suicide hours.
Big suicide hours.
It's not like you don't see all of us, right?
You don't see all of us.
I'm sitting down for a suicide Hamsterdam.
I'm all right with that shit.
What's a suicide Hamster?
You're Hamsterdam on the over the wire.
Yeah, suicide Hamsterdam.
Y'all, I'm not going to be in a way that's controlled and don't get in anybody else's way.
Get up out of here.
It's all good.
I don't know how y'all still do the train.
I've bought every possible way not to take the train.
I have a bike, electrical scooter, a car.
I mean, days like today walking through the past.
Because you have the parking privilege.
You got the parking privilege one.
You asked the question.
I just said it.
I still got a bicycle and an electric scooter.
I'm not getting on the train.
I haven't got anything.
Tell him how Alex Park.
This is what Alex does at Park.
This is the most hilarious shit ever.
He puts a black power fist in his windshield like that.
And then I walk out with the ball.
And then he just walks out.
This is a black car.
He literally.
He told that shit.
Literally just gets beaten as soon as he gets out of the car.
It's wild.
Nightclubs all of a sudden hit him in the back of the head.
Don't make no sense.
You're black, so we need some.
When was the last time you saw a white cop?
Them shit's just going extinct.
What?
Y'all see white cops?
Do I?
All the fucking time.
You get me?
That's how you know K is getting money, yo.
You see them wearing Adams.
You live in Jersey, son.
They ain't got black people there.
You don't even see cops.
It seems like true.
You're not a black person.
I'm not going to fuck that cold.
You see motherfuckers wearing green.
They got fur on their collars.
They got one of them sombrero hats.
They really did that they were out there in nature, right?
You on the highway, fam.
You're not in nature.
Why they got them whole shits with the little.
There's not a black person in my neighborhood, bro.
There isn't?
You made it, son.
I love it.
One day I'm going to get When I see like a new black couple moving into the building, like I'll be side-eyed.
Like, yo, don't you fuck this up.
I'll be a hat in his hand.
I'll be like, oh, yeah, I guess 20% is rank control.
I'm like, I want to be the only one.
Oh, man.
Y'all don't know the privilege.
The privilege of walking around.
Oh, no, that's the black people in the block.
I saw some black folks walking across, like, walking their dog in front of my porch the other day.
God, I turned so conservative for like five seconds.
I'm like, who are these new niggas?
I feel like I'm supposed to know what a second shit.
You knock on a white guy's door, like, what is happening to the neighborhood?
God damn it.
Because you know, they did that when I moved in.
They're like, yo, these black folks all in the middle of the day.
And now you're trusting us.
They're still doing that shit.
Exactly.
They're still doing that shit to me.
God damn it.
Cat's got a new neighbor every month.
He can't figure out why.
Everybody, your neighborhood is slowly moving out.
You realize every black person that moves in is because a white person moved out and they saw you, right?
It's like, what are you doing to the neighborhood?
When did they build a chicken shack here?
Katz is de-gentrified.
Oh, I love it.
Management to my place.
Not a single black person around there.
It's beautiful.
There's going to be a Kennedy fried chicken in your neighborhood in no time, bro.
Oh, dude, that's it.
They start saying something backwards at the Home Depot.
When he came over there, they started thinking he's going to start mowing everybody's lawn and shit.
Were they handing you cards and shit where they're like, we would love your services over here, too?
No, no, no, no bullshit.
Oh, no.
Wow.
I saw more cats than black people.
Yeah, lots of cats.
Lots of cats in the neighborhood.
You have a catty neighborhood?
Yeah, like they just let their cats just roam free.
Like, they're owned and shit, but they just go back home at the end of the night.
Wow.
Yeah.
Very pet friendly.
That is a white thing to let your animals roam.
Yeah, they just roam.
Like, they know where to go.
That's why we're the only ones that get Lyme disease.
They look at me like I'm not supposed to be there.
Black people don't get Lyme disease.
No.
Except for nature, really.
Yeah, the one guy from the real world.
I'm going to the forest for them.
Hiking.
What is hiking?
Hiking, this is what hiking is.
It's getting as far away from minorities as you can.
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You basically.
Just go to the beach.
That's one version of it.
Okay.
Swim meeting.
You got to go to the beach and get in the water.
You can't just hang out on the right.
Any ing sport is getting away from y'all.
That's us.
Skiing, snowboarding, hiking, swimming, kayaking.
We took skateboarding from y'all, though.
Y'all really are doing that, and it's bothering me.
And it's fucking bothering me.
All the best skateboarders are black now.
I'm like, when the fuck did this happen?
I know.
And nobody says a word about it.
We had to take that shit.
No peace.
Shout out to Lil Wayne.
Shout out to Lil Weezy.
Weezy did, really.
He's the biggest fake skateboarder.
He is.
You always see him in the skate park, but just after he finished, he'd be out of breath a little.
He really took that shit fucking seriously, dude.
Yo, bro.
You heard about this Deion Wader shit?
Listen, Deion Waders.
I've been taking gummies.
Oh, by the way, I have gummies for you guys.
Really?
Yes, from Braddicks, this weed company.
They had a specific thing for you.
Right now?
No, no, no.
Not by now.
Like, oh, I'm getting literally.
I just bought CBD in San Diego.
See, I'm just aura.
Really?
Son.
Son.
Yo, son.
That shit's still rapping.
Son, that shit's slapping, bro.
Later on the episode with Trevor, we broke down the chicken wing and how we made a new chicken wing.
Like, you know how we call Asians chicken wangs?
Right, an Asian chick is a chicken wang, and the reason we call her that is because there was this Asian chick that we Airbnb'd at, and she just said she was describing food and areas.
She was like, There's sushi, they're a chicken wang, and we're like, dude, that's what Asian women are called now.
We're watching this Asian rapper, right?
Yeah, uh, there's a big line outside with all these bodied Asian chicks, right?
Like with bodies, it was like K-pop shit, no, it was rap, Korean rap, Korean rap, but close, yeah.
And but it was all Asian chicks with some body in LA, and we were like, damn, there's some thick and wings, they thicken wings.
So, so that's a new one, you know, I've been, I've no shit, thought about at least six times this weekend and said in a room by myself, hanging out that.
Oh, yeah, that right there, that right there, bro.
Anytime you walk in a Japanese restaurant and then they do that whole shit, you know, where the whole place talks, you know what I'm talking?
Yeah, what is that?
You know what they say?
Any of y'all know what they say?
No, someone said, Call Weezy, she knows what exactly they say.
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Whatever.
I literally, I just be like, honey musta, I go right back out there, honey musta.
I go, honey musta.
They're just saying hello.
Yeah, they just going hello, they throw hello at the end to throw you off.
Hello, hello.
Is it that?
Isn't that arigato?
And then, like, thank you.
No, that's good.
Arigato is thank you.
But there's something you say when they walk in.
What is it?
So they're just like, you're.
I mean, that is their year.
That is their urge.
That's their year, son.
Oh, my God.
They really did, bro.
They're not even playing around.
Oh, man.
We going off.
We really are.
I missed you guys.
I missed you guys.
So, Deion Waiters, gummies.
Okay, Deion Waiters, gummies.
Real quick, by the way, thank you guys for selling out the town hall shows.
Very excited for that.
Yes, sir.
Boston.
That's dope already.
We got this going.
Boston, Thursday, second show has a few more tickets left.
Connecticut, no, sorry, Boston, Saturday.
That's a few more tickets left for the second show.
First show sold out.
And Connecticut, few more tickets left.
That's almost sold out as well.
So get on that real quick.
We added Edmonton and New Orleans, and we got Seattle.
Early shows sold out.
Neptune Theater, we have a late show, a few more tickets left for that.
Go get that.
LeandrewSchultz.com for the rest of the tickets.
Now we get to talk about this shit.
Deion Waiters took the edible.
Passed out.
All been there before.
Didn't snitch.
Didn't snitch.
Teammate gave him the edible.
Didn't snitch.
Suspended without pay.
10 games.
Still didn't snitch.
10 games.
Think about that.
10 games.
Real one.
How much money has he probably lost?
Oh, my God.
Each game check's got to be at least, what, like 40 racks?
Something like that?
That's crazy.
That's a good chunk of change he's missing out on.
That's worse than being fined when they suspend you without pay.
No game checks.
How much was his contract?
I think this is a smart man.
He got paid.
So I think this is a good, like, now you just built up credibility with the rest of the league.
Every player in the league is like, I fuck with that guy.
He could be on my team when he's even after he's kind of washed now, but even when he's like walking 52 million, 47 million guaranteed.
52 million?
Yo, we forget.
Waiters a few years ago was balling.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For half a year.
Half a year was balling.
He left when he left Cleveland and went to Miami.
He did his thing.
Yeah.
Contract years.
Those contract years are great.
He is a contract year killer.
Some guys are like that.
The whole time to get paid.
Julius Randall off top of the list.
Gang.
Oh, speaking of, shit, I forgot to promote.
Champ Sports this Friday.
I'll be there with my girl Vic interviewing Julius Randall for Slam.
You're going to tell him that?
We'll have some things to talk about.
He balled down his contract.
Yeah, we'll talk about it.
Can we talk about the Knicks?
Oh, my God.
I guess we have to.
Oh, you guys are so happy when you beat the Mavs on the Sunday.
Oh, no, no, no, fuck that.
Everything's gone down.
Yeah, it's done.
Have you seen what happened?
It's done.
I've seen it.
No.
Oh, my gosh.
I had a great day with my family.
I had my family Sunday fun day.
It was fantastic.
I was like, all right, let's all go home, watch the Knicks.
They're playing the Cavs.
They just beat a good Mavericks team.
You know what I mean?
Good game.
They should handle the Knicks.
Yeah, definitely beat them.
I think after they beat them.
We lost two.
No, that was their second win.
We got worked by Cleveland.
Yeah.
Okay.
Colin Sexton was out there looking like fucking God.
Jesus Christ.
These are not bad, man.
Incarnated.
Okay.
Still, it's Cleveland.
It's a home game.
But the fucking organization, they're talking about James Dolan right now is talking about bringing Masai Ujiri, who's the president of the Raptors, to the Knicks.
Finally not a believer.
Can we just talk about this for one second?
Dolan is thinking about bringing Masai Ujiri to the Knicks.
I am 100% convinced that James Dolan hates black people.
Why?
Because why would you ruin this many black people's lives?
Specifically, the black president, specifically, he's ruining jazz music with his band.
Anything that he can get his hands on, he is ruining.
You know what team that James Dolan owns that seems to be doing okay?
The Rangers.
The Rangers.
That white hockey sport seems to be doing okay, isn't it?
But when them blacks are playing a sport, all of a sudden, it's the worst management.
It's the worst.
It's the worst GM.
It's the worst everything.
The fact that they're thinking about firing Tisdale.
Real talk.
Dude, honestly, this is Kardashian levels of fucking over black men that James Dolan is in, right?
Because he has Fisdale head coach is about to get replaced as if anybody could do anything else with this fucking team.
What the fuck happened?
What did they say?
Son, you need Iron Man.
You need Captain America.
You need a lot of organizational shit to make the Knicks work right now.
The fact that Steve Mills and who's the other bum?
Scott Perry.
Steve Mills and Scott Perry.
Those fucking Franks and Beans.
I'm not mad at Scott Perry.
Steve Mills is the one who's the fucking.
They're both Franks and fucking Beans, idiots.
Doesn't matter.
But Franks and Beans, those guys are talking about firing Fizdale.
Guys.
Bro, here's my thing.
What do you want Fisdale to do?
This is black on black crime.
I think this is akin to what's happening in Chicago.
I think it's akin to what's happening all around the world.
Like, this is like Rwanda-esque black on the home.
The Knicks organization.
Real talk.
Real talk.
What's happening?
Like a real two-hoo or a two-to-one.
Trexie or Hutu.
I don't know.
Hotel Madison Square Garden is not the place to be.
Okay?
It was such a weak fucking move, bro.
Like, the whole fucking...
They had the press conference right after the game.
Oh, yo, we're sorry.
Like, we thought we were going to compete a little more.
Like, the dude's a dead man walking now.
Fisdale.
James Dolan hates black people.
He hates black people.
He was trying to ruin everything black.
Think of him.
I'm going to try and convince people that he's going to be able to get away from him.
He got Oakley banned from the garden.
Oakley, banned from the garden.
Isaiah Thomas, seeing you the sexual predator now.
Isaiah Thomas, seeing it as himself.
What else?
Mellow can't get a job.
Mellow can't get a job.
He hired an Asian.
He was like, all right, let's see what this is.
I was part of Jamal Crawford.
I was like, yo, if the Knicks call you right now, you answer the phone.
He's like, yeah, answer the phone.
He's like, I'd love to come play from New York.
Really?
Yeah.
Quote unquote.
That'll go out tomorrow for you.
Well, today, you guys.
But I'm like, I don't know why you would, but like, you're just.
He just wants a contract.
He just loves balls.
That's a motherfucker out of the Kego ball till like he's 45 years old.
James Dolan hates black people.
He hates everything black, and he's trying to destroy everything black from the inside out.
That is a fact.
He will destroy jazz music with his band.
He will destroy basketball.
He will destroy front office management.
Do you think that two black guys that are running the Knicks right now are going to get another job in the front office?
Oh, my God.
Do you think?
You think Scott Perry or Steve Mills can get another job in basketball after this, after this abomination?
Of course not.
And you know what?
They could be competent guys.
Here's my thing.
But James Dolan will not let them win because he hates black people.
Scott Shirley.
James Derrick hates black people.
Scott Perry's had success.
Steve Mills is the one I'm like.
You've been there for 20 years, dude.
Bro.
How are you still employed?
Black people.
The two black people he hired both have white names, Scott and Perry.
But both Steve and Mills.
Steve Scott and David.
Dude, come on, bro.
Steve Scott and David?
That's like a boy band.
Oh, man.
The problem is obviously Dolan, and I think the cat's out of the bag.
I think we know what's going on.
He is a deeply racist man who hates black people and hates black success and hates black empowerment.
And he's doing everything he can to suppress that.
And I think, if I'm being honest with you, I think it's far worse than the guy who owned the Clippers.
What was the guy who owned the Clippers?
Sterling.
Sterling just didn't want his wife around one black guy that had fucking AIDS.
That's not even that crazy.
A million dollars.
There's just one fucking black guy with HIV.
That's a reasonable thing to say to your fucking wife, okay?
And to be fair, he didn't say he didn't want him to be around him.
He said, just don't take pictures with them.
You can do whatever.
He's like, you can fuck him.
You can hang out with them, whatever.
Just don't take pictures of them.
It makes me look bad.
I don't want my friends think I got AIDS.
You know what I mean?
Whatever it is.
Nobody has destroyed black lives like this man, James Dolan.
I've seen his band live.
I've seen his band live.
Because they made us go to this thing when I was on a TV show that was owned by his network, right?
A TV show that he promoted because it was about hockey.
Interesting.
You know what else?
MSG Owens, do you remember that channel, Fuse?
Yeah.
You ever seen a good black show on Fuse?
A good hip-hop show on Fuse?
They just take whatever from Complex.
Oh, shit.
Well, Complex.
He's also got Flagrant Fit of the Week now.
Let's go ahead.
Let's go ahead and Complex Game.
Complex, you're welcome.
I know you're listening.
I know producers over there, you're listening to this right now because you listen to it every week.
You're welcome for these gifts that we give you.
But we're out here supporting creativity, okay?
Unlike James Dolan, which is trying to squash black dreams.
What is that?
They're biting.
Oh, of course they're biting.
But we know they biting.
We've been there.
So is fucking first take.
Didn't they ask us to come to fucking complex fest or whatever the shit?
They reached out.
They reached out.
Yo, emphasis on the con.
Something to do.
Dude, they're on podcast day.
The podcast energy.
Hey, let us convince you we're cool.
I got a problem with complex, man.
But that was, come on, son.
You got to say homage.
James Dolan, shockingly racist, man.
Is it shocking?
Not that shocking.
I mean.
Not that shocking.
Thou doth protest too much, bro.
How the hell do you think you'll pull a guy like Majai Ujiri?
Masai Ujiri.
He's Nigerian.
Masai's not the best.
There's one of them.
How do you not know his name?
Masai's not a Nigerian name.
He is.
You should know Masai's name, yo.
Whatever.
You know what I mean.
How the fuck do you think you get that?
Because you just let down your people, son.
Son, you let down your power people.
Because I mispronounced the wolf.
Come on.
Real talk.
I'm talking about Nigerian names.
Son, he liked the Elizabeth Warren and Nigerian.
Real talk, bro.
You might be.
I found out I'm Nigerian.
Yeah.
I am.
I'm 90% Nigerian.
For real.
I just did a 23andMe.
James Dolan got a 23andMe test you could take to find out how black you are.
That's why the show didn't make it past the first season.
They pulled the plug.
He was like, hold on, wait a minute.
What's this Eurobob motherfucker doing on our network?
We only kill careers over here.
Mello might be a good basketball player.
Mellow might actually be a good black.
Yeah, you're right.
Let me spawn.
Let me spawn.
I really think you're ridiculous.
You watch what's this dude on the lakers?
Contel Cantavius Caldwell Pope.
Caldwell Pope.
Yes.
And Mello can't get a look.
Jared Dudley can't get off the bench.
Because Contavius Caldwell Pope will shut the fuck up if somebody says something to him.
Exactly.
Myself.
He's nothing but shut the fuck up for the past year.
Son, no, he doesn't.
All he does is do videos of Chris Brickley and just be like, yo, somebody please sign me.
I'll do anything.
He's too thirsty.
He's really thirsty.
Now he's too thirsty?
Use his equity up, yo.
I don't believe you.
I don't know, bro.
I don't believe you.
What is he really going to offer your team?
There's a point at which you're not.
Buckets.
Not really, though.
Buckets, bro.
Buckets.
There's motherfuckers in here that cannot go and get you a bucket.
Not really.
And whatever the fuck you say about this dude, he can still do that.
Not really, though.
Oh.
You know what I mean?
Gosh.
He should go drive a fucking subway.
Even Chris Paul looks fucking good right now.
He's at the Thunder.
Yo, what team is he on?
On the Thunder.
How much did we forget about Chris Paul?
I forgot he was in a league.
Dog, and they were like winning games.
They look actually like not terrible.
They're better than the Rockets.
Do they really?
Yeah.
Yo, did you see that video of him blowing the guy?
What?
Not a joker.
Oh, wait, they're not better than the Rockets, but still.
They are, though.
Yo, how are the Clippers 6-3?
Four more games I thought they were going to win.
My fault.
Yo, the Clippers 6-3.
Oh, because Kawhi taking rest.
Yeah, Russ did.
Everybody's 6-3.
Look how fucking stacked this guy is.
Look at my Lakers, bro.
That's my team, bro.
Yo, look at my Lakers, bro.
The Lake Show.
That's my team.
You know what I mean?
The Nuggets are going to make it to the finals.
I don't know if I'm an idiot for that, but I think Nash fucks with the Nuggets.
That's what I think is doing it.
I don't know, bro.
Well, I heard they don't look quite as good right now, but I'm not going to lie.
Nuggets is a word that I don't even feel comfortable saying.
Nuggets, bro?
Too many NNGs.
It's a lot of NG in that one, bro.
NGs and that's a nice name.
Nuggets, bro.
Yo.
I respect that.
I respect that.
Nougat.
Son, nougat.
I don't even look.
Nougat sounds like you combine in two.
Right?
No, nougat is like the shit inside the Snickers.
Even Snickers don't sound right.
This whole thing is a game to get you to say the N-word, bro.
I was watching this Nuggets game.
I started eating some nougat.
You ever have a Snicker?
Yo, when you hit that second N-word, I got uncomfortable.
You got to lean into that K when you say Snickers.
You can't say it.
Snickers.
Yeah, but Snicker Curse.
Or like underwear.
Knickers.
Snickers.
It's terrifying, bro.
I can't even say it.
The underwear in England.
Yeah, what they call it in England.
Yeah.
Knickers?
I call them Knickers.
Knickers.
I pronounce it K in that one.
Motherfucker.
It's the Knickers.
Knickers.
You know that thing when they mix shit for bars and shit?
It's called Swigger.
Oh, Swigger.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know that one.
Wow.
You really wanted to say that.
That's cool.
It's called a what? Swigger.
Oh, no.
That's too close, bro.
That's too close, bro.
Could you say that one?
Swiggers?
Yeah.
Swigger doesn't bother me.
Swigger.
Swagger, that's fine.
That is true.
That is true.
Swagger is fine.
Okay.
Swiggers never bother me.
Staggers.
I'm actually more comfortable around Swiggers.
I like those guys.
Swiggers?
Yeah, Swiggers make me comfortable.
I mean, you guys are cool, too, but you know.
What is a Swigger?
The thing in the bar, right?
That's what it is.
Oh, yeah.
I thought it's like a Swedish.
No.
Swedish dude with brown hair.
That's what they were called ASAP in jail.
Oh, God.
Son, ASAP going back to Sweden, son.
Bro.
Because he got to.
For why?
Not to do a show.
I respect it.
Fuck that.
I respect the balls on it, bro.
If I'm him, I'll tell him.
When he goes over to Alton, you can't go back.
He's got a time to eat a dick.
We're not doing a show there.
We're not supporting it.
Yeah, fuck all that.
And people go, it's not all the Swedish people.
We know it's not all the Swedish people.
Obviously, it's not the Swedish people.
We fuck with Swedish people.
But your government conspire to keep him in prison.
So when a government conspires to keep a guy in prison against false pretense, you can't feel safe there.
They paid you how much?
Drake Recovering From Controversy00:15:38
Was it $12 million?
He can't need that, yo.
He can't need that bag that much.
Sweden, son.
Sweden.
Whatever.
Same shit.
Oh, man.
To Sweden.
Not all white countries are the same, bro.
God.
What's the difference between Sweden and Switzerland right now?
3,000 miles.
Chocolate.
Chocolate?
Good answer.
The Army knives.
Good answer.
Meanballs.
Well, Wiener Schnitzel.
Meanballs is Sweden.
Army Knives is Switzerland.
Switzerland, they speak a bunch of different languages.
Yeah, Roger Feder is Swiss.
He speaks like Switzerland.
I heard Switzerland.
They make like watches.
Switzerland is.
Switzerland's watch.
Yeah, you're right about it.
That's well said.
If you really want to be white, it's so fucking bad.
Switzerland's worse.
Not aligning my fucking act with that.
We might have to cut that.
You got to cut it?
Okay, but go on, go on.
We could bleep.
We could bleep.
I thought you were hating.
I was like, why you ain't laughing?
That's great.
Because I'm like, ah.
Yeah, yeah.
I know, I know.
Oh, fuck.
Drake got booed.
Son.
About that?
First of all, this guy, Drake, when he's getting booed, I don't know if you guys are watching.
There's Tyler Creators.
Camp Flogno.
Camp Flogno.
That's a festival that he does every year.
Yeah, yeah.
It's Wolfgang back there.
Wolfgang back.
Oh, I thought it was Wang Golf.
Nah, it's Golf Wang.
Golf Wang.
Yeah.
Oh, I thought it's like, I just imagine you're playing golf with your dick.
Maybe.
I don't know.
Wolfgang?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Anyway, so Tyler's amassed this great following.
It's really brilliant what he's been able to do and curated this amazing audience.
And he asked Drake to, I guess, perform at this festival that he throws.
And then they fucking booed Drake.
And because he wasn't Frank Ocean.
Right.
Can I read his tweets today?
Okay, let's see.
Tyler the Creators.
Tyler Creators tweets.
He said, quote, I thought bringing one of the biggest artists on the fucking planet to a musical festival was fire.
But flip side, a little tone dev, knowing that specific crowded drew.
Some created a narrative in their head and acted out like assholes when it didn't come true.
And I don't fuck with that.
This nigga did feel no ways.
Song is beautiful.
Also, mostly everyone was having a great time.
Those shits in the front area were the ones being mad rude, which I can see why.
But nah, fuck that.
Y'all misrepresented me and flogged to my guests and made us look so entitled and trash.
That shit was like mob mentality and cancel culture in real life.
And I think that shit is fucking trash.
Nigga did feel no ways.
That song was beautiful.
Most guys don't do album cuts.
Thank you, Aubrey.
Like, I love that song and thought that would never happen.
And he really did that for me.
And I appreciate it because he did not have to come at all.
See our worlds come together was so great in theory.
But hey, man, shit happens.
All jokes aside, low-key funny, ha ha ha.
Aside from that, hope everyone had a good time again.
No arrest, no bullshit, man.
A lot of people enjoyed it.
Thanks again.
Again, thank you, Drake.
I'm fucking pissed.
Hotline bling was next, and that's my fucking shit.
I'm going to play that in the shower right now.
Okay, last tweet, I was in the front and I hear Tyler.
And I look to my left, and this girl, red faced, puffy, waterfall of tids, looked into my soul and said, trembling with anger, what the fuck is this shit?
Nigga, I turned away so quick, she was pissed, bro.
And that was it.
That shit was not cool, dog.
And he ended it with a K.
So I had a theory about this.
I've never been to a Tyler show.
Great show.
Puts on a great show.
Is his audience predominantly male?
Yeah.
It's a nice little mix.
Tyler brings up a little bit of a show.
Suspect that his audience is predominantly male.
I would suspect that, and there's nothing wrong with that, you know, at all.
Yeah.
But I would suspect his audience predominantly male.
And the thing about Drake is.
He brings out the bitches.
Oh, outside bringing out the bitches.
It's not about him bringing them out.
It's he performs to them.
So imagine is 90% dudes, right?
And like skateboarder-y, kind of like hipstery dudes.
And Drake is singing love songs to you.
And you're like, all right, man.
All right, get out of here with that shit.
Now, that premise holds true until you realize who they actually wanted to perform, which was the gay guy.
Who was going to sing those love songs about you to you?
They wanted Frank O.
They booed Drake for Frank Ocean.
Can we acknowledge Frank Ocean is one of the most overrated artists in the world?
Yo, holy ghost.
Do we talk about it?
The hype.
I mean, he's good, but like, how?
What does he say about that?
Can I read that?
That's why the most brilliant marketing he could have possibly done is.
That's how you noted, Tyler's fans were super hypeys because they like the shit they can't get.
Yeah, it's they treating Frank Ocean like a Jordan release.
Let me, let me read one more fan account.
He's the Virgil of music, Virgil Records that's what they should call themselves.
Virgil Records megastore opening up in Times Square.
Now this is from somebody who who attended it and he said and this is making the rounds on Reddit, okay, it wasn't as simple as spoiled crowd booed Drake because they were expecting Frank like it was partially that but that shit went down because so much confusion was set up to fail.
Here's what happened.
The entire festival is at this set and it's fucking packed.
Tyler comes out five minutes late and says, thank you for coming.
Yada yada, yada.
Can I bring out some friends?
Crowd gets hype and ASAP Brocky comes out, plays two songs and leaves.
Tyler comes back out, says can I bring out another friend?
Crowd gets hype.
Little Uzi Vert comes out, plays the songs and dips.
Tyler does it again.
This time Drake comes out.
Drake plays a song, says Tyler wanted me for one of two songs, but can I play some more if you want plays like five songs and people are hype, but he keeps alluding like almost.
He keeps like alluding to almost being done, so people don't know if he was the final person or what.
He then says he has two more songs and people are like, cool, there's still like a half hour.
That means more performances.
He finishes the two songs and says, do you guys uh, want more?
And everybody was like uh maybe, like no one knew what was happening and so apparently he didn't like the response, so he just walked off and then nothing.
Literally stood there for 15 minutes, not knowing if it was over or what the fuck was happening.
Finally the lights go on and the words thanks for coming comes on the big screen.
I wasn't at the front so maybe I didn't hear the booze, but people were trying to get down to the songs.
From what I saw, and while the people around me at least, were disappointed if Drake was the finale, so to speak, they would have been fine and enjoyed the set if they had made it clear no one else was coming.
Yeah, I saw the video.
I didn't watch it it's.
Some people were there, some people weren't I.
I thought that he handled it so graciously and this is why he's been on the top of the game for 10 years is like he literally just goes to them.
He sees the booze, he goes.
Listen, i'm here for y'all if y'all want me to be here right, and i'm down to perform for y'all if y'all want it.
Do you want me to keep going?
And then there's some rise and there's some booze and Goes, all right, y'all.
Thank you so much.
I love y'all.
Y'all have a good night.
Like, in that moment, and we've all had that moment on stage as comics where we just go into fuck you mode and just start tearing the fucking crowd apart and digging in.
To have that humility, son, that's why he's been on top of the game.
And someone asked him about it.
He's like, You got to welcome the humbling moments.
That was a humbling moment.
He's the biggest rapper in the world, has been for the last 10 years.
A motherfucker got booed.
Like, that is.
It made me feel so good.
Why?
Because, like, he's so successful.
He's so fucking successful.
And this guy who's made almost like a billion dollars making whatever the fuck he was still found in a crowd of people who didn't fuck with him.
Yeah.
So if there's any like thing to take from that, it's like, yo.
If he hasn't already, and this is from someone who's not a fan, if he hasn't already, he's going to be in that GOAT conversation.
Oh, yeah.
Right next to the artist of the decade.
Like, nobody's been bigger than him in the 20s.
But it's going to be like, they're going to look at Jay-Z like, whatever, man.
Jay-Z's a better businessman.
Drake's a better rapper.
Drake's a better.
It's going to be a real debate, too.
And you're not going to have a lot of grounds to disagree.
Oh, yeah.
Because he's got...
The thing that Drake has that Jay-Z never really had was like Jews' songs.
Those Jews.
Jews for sure were.
Jews and Canadians.
That is very true.
But Drake got those hit songs, man.
Like, Hove was always like...
Hove never had bangs.
He never had hits like that.
Like, he had a handful.
He had like Hard Knock Life.
He had fucking Empire Pippin.
And even Big Pimp wasn't like huge.
Like, Holland Bling was huge.
Fucking God's Plan for the Play.
I remember Big Pimp.
Huge.
Nah, Big Pimp was popping.
That's probably three Jay-Z songs.
Trust me.
I understand what you say about Big Song, but we're talking about massive Z100 top 40.
Like number one, you beating out Taylor Swift, Madonna, those type of shit.
I understand what he's saying.
Those types of shit.
He's crossed over to mainstream just music in general, not just hip-hop.
Yeah, yeah.
Big Pimp is big to us, but like Jay-Z don't got a bigger song than God's Plan.
Jay-Z don't got a bigger song than fuck is.
Jay-Z don't got one dance.
He don't got no dances.
He ain't got one dance, bro.
He don't got like.
Jay-Z kind of trash.
You right.
All right, don't say all that.
What are you going to say on that shit, bro?
But nah, like, it's...
You almost had me there.
Almost had me.
Stir up the pot, baby.
Stir up the pot.
Nah, I definitely do like foresee a world where people don't even look at Jay-Z as a rapper, like on some Charles Barkley shit.
Like kids are just like, oh, that's just the funny guy on TNT.
It's like, no, Charles Barkley was the shit when he played ball.
The shit.
Charles is a man, bro.
Charles the motherfucking.
This is the beginning of the end for Drake.
You think it's the beginning of the end?
Oh, really?
Really?
Whoa.
The people have always loved him.
This is the first time I've ever seen the people not love him.
But these are the types of people that don't love.
It's the type of people not to love.
No, no, like this, this crowd, his crowd, like Tyler's crowd, I imagine reflects Tyler and his life, which is a little bit outcasted.
They're like the Tyler's like the black insane clown posse.
And his fans are like that version as well.
Like, we didn't fit into the stereotype of our race.
Yeah.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
I get what you're saying.
They're black people.
Yeah, they're like black misfits.
And also the white kids that feel a little weird.
And they also skateboard.
And they're all like, hey, we're all outsiders.
But then again, you all hang out with each other.
So you're not outsiders.
You have your own group, but you want to fit it.
Tyler built this entire fan base off of being like the anti-Drake.
Yeah, but their leader, who's Tyler, invited Drake out.
So they should automatically like the person that their leader is telling you, hey, I'm inviting to my concert.
So the fact that the people are going against their leader and booing Drake, that means Drake is starting to lose fan faith.
10 years is a long time.
I know he's been on time.
Everybody got to go down.
This is the best.
Just like that.
Now he's got something to prove.
I think he's too smart, bro.
I think that guy's too smart.
It's similar to what happened with Jay-Z after Ether, where the push thing, I think Drake recovered quicker, but like there's still a little weird thing, but it'll be chink in the armor.
It definitely isn't chink in the armor because I can't even listen to like if you're reading this is too late anymore.
And I love that project.
That was like my favorite Drake project at one point.
But now I just hear what's the name?
Quentin Quentin?
What's the Quinn Miller?
Quinn Miller.
Quinn Miller.
I just hear the fucking reference tracks every time I put on a song.
I'm like, damn, he really ruined that album for me.
Meek ruined the album for me.
Dude, isn't it so weird that you can say chink in the armor?
I was thinking, I was, yo, we finished it out.
I was avoiding it, but I was like, nah, I'm going to use this.
No, this is a completely common, it's a completely normal term.
You can say chink in the armor.
You can't say chink in the armchair, right?
That would be super racist.
You can say chink in the armor, but not chink in the armchair.
And there is.
He made that slip up on like a natural TV.
What?
Say what?
What'd they say?
Oh, was it the Jeremy Lynn thing?
Yeah, so they said that about Jeremy Lynn.
What they said.
Chink in the armor.
Oh, no, they said armor, though, but imagine if you were like, it's just one of those chinks in the armor.
He just opens the door.
What?
Are we hiding chinks in the armor?
Like, it would be a crazy thing to say.
It just shows you, like, what that type of thing shows you, right?
It exposes the absurdity of language and meaning that we put into language, right?
They're literally just sounds that we make out of our mouth, and we add all the meaning to them.
Like, the N-word thing where we couldn't even say words that were around the N-word.
Why?
It's just sounds.
They're literally just sounds.
And people will fight someone outside of Walmart because you say that sound to them.
Why give someone that much power over you?
Feels good.
That Popeyes video, though, of the guy getting fucked up.
That shit was hilarious.
But they did that to take his chicken sandwich.
It had nothing to do with the N-word.
But that's what it's nah, but they lied.
He never even called him N-word.
No, he did it.
They made that up.
Son, you see, it's a video.
He goes, have a nice day, guys.
And they're like, they're like, yo, he calls N-word.
Take his chicken sandwich.
But that video.
Let's talk about that chicken sandwich.
Yeah.
Yo.
It's not as good as it was the first time.
Bro, the new shit stepped on, B. Really?
The new shit has stepped on.
These mids?
Yo, like, I don't know what they did with the OG formula.
The OG formula had some cracks wriggled in there or something.
I think there was something wrong with the old one.
Oh, really?
You think something's wrong with the all-it was a mistake.
No, no, no.
I think they put something in it that shouldn't have been.
That's why they pulled it quick before they got caught.
Before people started testing it.
Really?
I could see that though.
I could see that.
And what do you think they put on that just made black people go crazy?
Extra chicken.
MSG.
I'm thinking MSG.
Extra chicken.
Maybe what's MSG?
Watermelon seed.
MSG is like a type of salt.
Yo.
Let me tell you one thing.
It's really bad.
Oh my god, it tastes amazing.
It tastes amazing, right?
Yeah.
But it's horrible for you.
And that's why James Dolan named it MSG because it feels good while it kills you.
The Knicks don't even feel good.
No.
Think about the Knicks' name, the Knickerbockers.
He has the N-word built out into it.
He's a racist man.
This is, he's a truly racist man who hates black people, bro.
He named his team the Knickerbockers so he could say the N-word freely around them.
Yes, the team was named way before him, but it doesn't matter.
Garo Nick's.
Oh my gosh.
You imagine he wants him to lose all the time so he can always hear it.
Man, they whoop the hell out of them, Knicks.
Yo!
Pretty sure he's not.
They literally beat them, Knicks.
Like they stole something.
Probably did.
He's like, Where's those Knicks?
I mean, Nick's Nick's Nick's every year.
James Dolan, racist man.
He's giving that racist man.
Skim that sterling, bro.
Aren't you trying to do the garden one day?
Say what?
Aren't you trying to play the garden one day?
We're going to delete all this.
I'm about to say, I've just got a proof of trespasses.
No, we're going to do, we're going to work.
We're going to work this out.
Somebody to put the old episodes on Patreon only.
Man, we're going to figure that out.
Look, right after this, racist ass Dolan gets out of office.
We need to get Dolan out of office, bro.
That's what it is.
That's how much I care about my Knicks.
You guys got to figure out scandals.
If I got any Cowboy fans and want to get a Me Too for Jerry Jones, you got a girl that you're willing to switch.
At least Jerry Jones is like.
James Dolan Is Racist00:03:36
He keeps yelling the conversation for like it's listen.
I'm not going to say y'all don't be in the lottery dwelling.
Yeah, y'all's is probably worse, but it also sucks to just always have hope and then lose it.
But they're both just, you got to get them out of there.
It's terrible.
It's terrible.
Dude, who plays the lottery more than black people?
Spanish folk.
Spanish.
People of color love the lottery.
Get them numbers.
Do Indians play a lot of if it's only when it gets like max it?
They sell it like the what the seller I wonder if we get margins on the lotto tickets.
They're gonna be holding that shit up to the light like, is this trying to find the right stores that win?
They get a cut.
Yeah, you get a piece.
Yeah, oh word, and they own all the stores.
They got it.
That's how we hustle.
Yo yeah yo, mvp convo.
Lamar Jackson, Jackson.
I still go.
Russell Wilson bro, but son Lamar is looking.
Impresivo bro, impresivo.
I said I tweeted this yesterday.
If Nfl players have Heisman moments yesterday, was this fucking high, that little spinny?
I didn't see that.
Pull that up.
I was traveling bro, and then it was.
It was Vicesque son, Vicesque Bro started running downhill like Vic.
Remember when Vic would, would really put on the jets and it seemed like his legs were catching up to his body.
Dog, you'd watch it in slow motion and it's still moving mad fast, just murdering it, motherfucking murdering it.
And we should never ever, ever the better.
He gets that passing too.
The literally perfect passer rating today, by the way, last game perfect passer rating.
Here he goes right here.
Boom, fake options, excuse me, excuse me whoop, excuse me whoop, excuse me.
And we gone son, and we gone.
Step Spin gone, gone.
No one's touching him, untouched passion's like game day, Jesus right, and this is a guy who hates to run.
He said, I would rather just sit in a pocket and throw, but if you could do that yeah, come the fuck on.
But honestly, those are the types of plays where if he He gets blasted by a linebacker or safety when he does that.
Oh, he will one day.
Everybody will be calling him an idiot for it.
He will one day, but he's the best show in football right now.
So, Steve Young said this.
About any mobile quarterback, you have to learn to do most of your damage from the pocket.
And I think that's part of it: you're concerned about this guy getting hurt.
And that's always my concern with him, man.
As someone who loves watching him play, I don't want him to get hurt.
I need him to do this sparingly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Take your shots when they're really necessary, but if he actually can throw.
So he seems like he's getting better at pocket passing and wants to.
Yeah.
Like Dak got better at pocket passing.
Dude, what was that video with Dak?
So there was, I was watching with like limited audio in the green room.
Yeah.
And there's something like there's a way when you're scrambling to the left, you open up your hips a certain way and you can throw it better.
So he was literally just doing that hip shift to prepare for like come on the run.
And then I didn't see any good real tweets about it.
I thought there would be one.
That was a very New York one.
That's about to be the next dance on TikTok, bro.
Oh, yeah.
The shit he's doing.
They got a remix.
Overnight.
You got it on my timeline, Edin.
I just tweeted it out like a few moments ago.
But what was it?
Here it is.
There it is.
See, I was like opening up his hips.
You have to put up that volume, though.
Can you play that?
Yeah, yeah, no, don't play it.
Don't play that.
It's one black man.
Dak Prescott Hip Shifts00:04:31
Swab it.
Swab it.
Yeah, he's getting that shit.
Not for nothing?
Looks like it feels great on the hips.
Yeah, that shit on the side.
Oh, slash, bro.
What happened?
Somebody else trust me for that?
What?
Try to do it.
Do you think I can do that?
Hold on.
Let's see.
Hold on.
Let's see it.
Let's see.
You just gotta throw that.
You just gotta throw that.
You just gotta hit that shit.
You gotta get the wings.
Kat's only moving his upper body.
Your hips ain't.
Let me give you some space, Kat.
Oh, okay.
Get that shit.
Hey.
Hey.
Kat's gotta do that too hard at dick slap.
Somebody's gonna pull us off the dick slash.
Oh, gosh.
I don't mind.
That actually felt really good.
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
Elvis Crestbo, bro.
What else we got, boys?
We got a long episode because we got the interview as well.
So we're going to.
We could talk about poor Gordon Haywood.
We could talk about KSI Logan Paul.
LSU Bamo is a great game.
We can talk about Hermione dating herself.
This bitch a loser in the books and real life.
That's funny.
That's funny.
Hey, bitch, that's nobody like you ever, huh?
She said, she's like, I'm not single.
I'm self-partnered.
You know what's so sad about that?
Is it she's admitting that she doesn't want to be lonely?
So she made up like a fake best friend or something like that.
Like, self-partner.
Just say you alone.
Say no one wants to deal with your yapping about the environment.
Is this the bitch that care about the environment?
Most bitches care about the environment.
Is this the Swedish bitch?
She does look a little like that.
Hermione Granger, yo.
She's on.
Ain't that the environment, dude?
It does look a little like.
She ain't for Twilight Bitch.
That's not the Twilight bitch.
No.
No, this is the girl from Harry Potter that cares about the environment from Sweden.
You might be right.
I don't know, though.
I don't know.
I'm pretty sure she's in.
I'm cute right there.
I partner this dick up in the south.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean over here?
Shit.
Back in the day.
Day one.
You had a girlfriend, of course.
Yeah, you know, you're right.
You're right.
I was going to say that a few weeks ago.
I'm not here.
He hit that.
That's all I love.
I thought you knew I was getting flagrant here.
I totally forgot.
What's so mini out here, bro?
He remembered because he hit the no, I'm just kidding right away.
No, I forgot about my girlfriend when I said that.
Oh, God.
And then Alex reminded me.
That's how much he loves Harry Potter.
Son, he threw it all over.
You know what?
My girl told me about Harry Potter, so that's on her.
That's on you.
Okay?
That's on you.
You made me cheat.
You made me cheat.
Now come get this quitch, bitch.
Why'd you ride my brooms?
There we go.
Oh, that's so great, bro.
Yo, when I heard that, it's funny.
It's a low-key kind of fly.
What?
That self-partnership?
Maybe not.
Why?
Why?
Why is it?
Because I could just run with that.
Yo, you know what's mad funny about it?
You know, black women have been doing this for decades, though.
I got it, man.
His name is Jesus.
It's the same thing.
It's just there's who we got to say.
No, listen up.
My son is my Valentine ass bitch.
No fucking words, yo.
Come on.
Yo, that's funny, though.
You want to tell girls?
Tell girls that you're self-partner so you can't be in a relationship because I'm self-partner right now.
Oh, I guess a little bit.
Yo, you know what's funny, though, about witches is that like it's like you know how they be riding on the brooms and shit, right?
It's like, even with all your magical powers, you still got clean like these bitches could hocus poke.
And in a cauldron.
In a cauldron, you know, that's all you are.
Get out of here with your hocus pocus.
Why don't you hocus pocus to bed?
Okay.
Why don't you get the fucking dustpan out?
Let's go fix up this house.
Yo, Jesus Christ.
Anyway, guys, it's been wild.
Trevor Wallace In New Media00:07:55
We got an interview coming up right now with our guy, Trevor Wallace.
Very, yeah, we'll do it after.
But very funny kid making his way in new media.
I'm very proud of him.
And I want to, you know, give him this platform to showcase his stuff.
You guys might have seen some of his viral videos out there in the world.
And I'm sure he's going to be a good one.
We also got a podcast called Stiff Socks.
Our boy Michael Blaustein.
We'll talk about that in the interview as well.
Enjoy.
And you already know.
Keep it tight.
As always, it's been flagrant too.
Peace.
What's up, everybody?
Now, my illustrious podcast hosts are not in town, even though you've probably listened to them for about an hour with me today.
Akash is in Tempe currently because we're recording this on Sunday.
And Kaz is probably doing anything else.
That's Kaz's level of dedication to this podcast.
He's doing anything.
He treats us worse than his feet.
You got to see a picture of those feet.
No, you really don't.
You really don't have to see it.
But we have a special guest here.
I'm very excited to have on the podcast.
I've been watching your rise and grind now for a while.
You popped up on my radar.
I think just by DMing me.
Yeah, you were doing Oxnard Liberty Live out there.
Even before that.
Yeah.
Even before that, yeah, yeah.
This is Trevor Wallace, everybody.
You probably have seen, 100% have seen some of the YouTube videos, tons of these viral YouTube videos.
The first one I saw that really, I think I texted you about it.
It was the dads.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was fucking dying, man.
But you do these characters where you're mocking these, you're mocking, you're mocking these figures, right?
Figure stereotypes pretty much as a personality of somebody.
Yeah, and you really get into character.
And now you got other guys kind of doing it with you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kind of just expanding.
Found this like little group of people that just like riff similarly.
And I mean, we don't write any of this shit.
It's just turn the camera on, film for 45 minutes, condense.
It's like five minutes.
And yeah, for whatever, I mean, I've never been a big, like, here's a script.
Can you hit that line?
It feels just so like static and not funny to me.
So we just fuck around getting there.
That's the hard part about acting.
Right.
It's like making so many auditions.
I mean, they send me out on legit shit and I eat shit for it.
You know, I had an audition for Silicon Valley, ate so much shit for it.
Yeah.
You know, and it's just because you're looking at it like, man, I could write this funnier.
Right.
I would say this in this moment.
Yeah.
And you're like, is that a question mark?
Is that a comma?
And then you're like saying it and then you're looking at like in a mirror.
It just doesn't feel right.
It doesn't feel like a human.
You're like, you're like, I'm trying to, I don't know.
No, I get it completely.
It's so much easier to say shit that like comes to you organically.
Right, exactly.
That's, and that's why some, look, I don't have a lot of respect for actors at all.
But there are certain things like we had Jeremy Piven on the podcast, and Jeremy Piven said he didn't ad-lib or improv a single line for montourage.
And while that's crazy to me, I was heartbroken because I thought that he wrote everything.
Yeah, yeah.
The character was just so, I don't know, it was just so amazing.
But he's like, no, every word was in the script.
And then I was like, okay, as an actor, that's pretty impressive because you made it seem so you.
But it's like, he's just bringing words to life.
You know, shout out to the writers.
You know, I was like, are the writers getting hosed off this?
Or is it just Jeremy Pippin?
Definitely not.
I don't think writers get hosed.
In real talk, they should because they're the most powerful people.
That's what I'm saying.
If you're a really good writer, all they gotta do is write in, blonde, 38-year-old, looks like a Jessica.
Oh, then the girl comes in, and Jessica, she auditions.
Oh, wow.
Boom.
He's the one getting you roles.
Right.
Piven's out here just reading lines, saying shit, and fucking.
But like we were saying, it's hard to read a line.
It is.
It's hard to read a line and make it funny.
Like, it's the antithesis of everything that we learn in stand-up.
Yeah.
Like, stand-up.
Oh, I should say that your background is stand-up.
Yeah, started at stand-up first.
Yeah.
Started stand-up first.
Started stand-up first.
Then you started working for Russell Simmons.
Yeah, Aldiff Digital.
Aldef Digital.
I think that's when you reached out to me and you were offering to help me out with my Instagram.
Yeah.
And it was great.
And just like literally everybody who's ever worked with me, they reached out and they're like, hey, you can do this better.
And you were teaching me how to reach up to the next level and be like, how do I get in with somebody?
That's exactly.
That's what Mark did.
That's what Alex did.
You know, I'm sure.
Eden, I don't know how you got here.
You hit up Alex.
Oh, fuck this guy got in.
Who the fuck are you?
Oh, no.
I sleep on the floor below.
Got a word.
But you did what so many people don't do, right?
So many people are like, hey, can I open up for you on the road?
It's like, what does that add?
What value does that add for you?
Zero value.
Right, exactly.
You like immediately came in with value and I saw that you understood new media.
And I was trying to get an understanding of new media at the time.
And I'm not shocked at all to see what's happening, man.
It's like really exploded for you.
Thank you, man.
So it's been crazy.
So you catch this niche, right?
And what do you even call it?
Shit.
I mean, I feel like I just play the stereotypes that people know really well.
It's like that, because it's usually a trait of somebody.
Yes.
Because it's a lot of times, for me, comedy is like hometown hero.
Yeah, the hometown bro.
Like the guy who never leaves home.
Yeah, the hometown guy.
Yeah.
So like for that one, I just went down my Facebook.
I don't fuck with Facebook, really.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a weird place.
It feels like just like a shitty Apple Bee.
So like I go through it and I just like just because what happened, that character, some dude messaged me from my hometown.
He used to be the quarterback, like stud, long hair, like fucking look straight.
You look like long hair a good quality?
What was that?
That was that QB, Sonny.
Oh, bro.
I mean, as a high school quarterback, you don't even matter, bro.
Long hair.
You can't hand off the ball and you got good hair.
You're getting ass, you know?
He DM'd me one day.
He's like, yo, I got a three-year-old if you ever need it for a video.
And I was just like, bro, offering up a three-year-old to be in a video.
And I was just like, what?
Dude, he throws passes, bro.
That's what he does.
He's still quarterback.
Yeah, exactly.
He's just lobbing off that baby fucking hot routing.
So I just heard that.
And I was like, what the fuck is wrong with people from my hometown?
And I started going through Facebook and started writing that.
Camarillo, California.
You know, Oxnard at Levity Live Club.
Yeah, Camarillo's the outlets.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know who the outlets?
I went to UCSB.
Look at this.
Yeah, you did.
Santa Barbara, what is this?
Shellfish Company.
Come on, baby.
Camarillo.
That's born in Rhino.
Camarillo.
Keep going.
So, so you see him, you think he's a loser because he offers up his child to you.
I was just like, and then you decide to make fun of him.
You're a fucking sociopath.
Yo, yeah, I have to.
This poor guy is trying to get a free babysitter.
Yeah, oh, dude, that's all it was.
I bet this too special watch by giving four hours.
Get tickets to the fucking lifted truck convention down in the street.
But I gotta go to Spearmint.
Yeah, exactly.
There is a Spearman Rhino right in our town.
Santa Barbara, bro.
Shout him out.
Wait, you guys got one in Camarillo too?
I said, Oxnard.
It's like that's like 10 minutes away.
The Spearman?
I don't know.
They had one in Spearman.
Is there a lot of Spearman Rhinos?
Yeah, Chain.
Chain.
Chain.
Wow.
Chain.
Yeah.
Oh, there was one called the Morning Station.
That was the one that was the local one.
PJs.
It's an Oxnard.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so you decide to just kind of like roast this one guy.
Now, is he familiar?
You're making fun of him?
Probably, but I also think he's one of those guys that's like, you see this?
Yo, Trevor Ball's talking shit about me right now.
He's like hyped about it.
He's like dapping up a three-year-old who just doesn't know what that is.
And a three-year-old's just like, bro, what?
Give me some titty milk, all right?
Yeah.
So, I mean, I just take trades.
I was just like, shit, I see around and just really just go with that, you know?
Because I think some of the videos that people do with like wigs and this stuff is like, it's too overproduced.
I just want something that people can be like, oh, that's so much like Mark.
That's so much like this shit.
You know, it's just relatability and truth.
And that's really comedy in it.
I mean, yeah.
But it wasn't accidental for you.
And this is why I want to have you on.
Because I try to give as much exposure to new media guys as I can, right?
Guys who I really think, I think, really understand new media because we're going to be the people that are basically controlling this industry as regular Hollywood kind of falls apart.
Roasting A Local Guy00:15:34
Yeah.
Right.
I mean, I had some general meetings with some networks out here.
They don't get it.
What the shit they got coming for 2020.
I was like, what?
What were you talking to him about?
It was just like every network is like, they're bringing back all these old shows.
And it's like, why do you think they're doing that?
Because those hit back in the day, and they're like, well, you guys remember this show?
Right.
It's like, yeah, it was tough.
Well, two reasons.
One, it hit back in the day, but two, the only people that still watch TV are the people who used to watch that shit.
Damn.
So they're making TV for older people because the TV demo has gotten older because old people don't know how to work in it.
When have reboots ever worked?
No, they slap.
Roseanne slapped.
And so she went wild.
Until she took that, what did she take?
Ambient or some shit and started wilding out on Twitter.
I don't think she took anything.
That's just who she was.
She just woke up.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
She woke up raising.
This girl looked like Land of the Apes.
And I'll be honest with you, she did it not.
She did it not.
No, I retweeted that shit.
That might have been the reason fucking people saw it.
Bro, she did it not, Al.
Did she not?
That's cool.
That's an edit point right there.
I'm just saying anybody but Roseanne, people would have gotten away with it.
I don't think she looks like a monkey.
I just want to point that out.
We don't have to lose our careers off this.
Thank you.
But back to what we were saying.
So it seemed to me that this was not like an accident with you.
That like you were working at ADD for a while.
And then did you witness Russ do anything wild over there?
No, Russell was so weird because he's very like a yogi.
On his Instagram, he would like post all these motivational quotes.
And then he'd walk in, what the fuck y'all doing?
I'm just like, bro, what about the peace, love, and positivity shit?
Where's the whole praying hands and robes?
That's how Asians get down, bro.
I mean, he like.
That yoga shit is for white people, bro.
Because Asians stay murdering each other.
Right?
Like, have y'all ever gone to Asian place calm?
Go to Chinatown.
Are they Zen?
No.
They're just screaming, right?
Fish flying out of buckets and shit.
It's nothing yoga at all.
India's crazy.
Is India not crazy?
I think white people are the only ones that find peace and calmness in it.
Yes.
I don't know, bro.
I've done because Russell used to own a hot yoga studio and he gave us free passes.
And like, right, I went a few times.
Grooming crowned.
It was weird.
Bro, it was in.
It was weird.
It was dark.
I didn't know what was going on.
Did you see him going after hoes or what?
Dare not as, but it's like a yoga flex.
It's like he would be like touching the back of his heels while having a conversation like a bridge.
Like, oh, yeah, what you doing after this?
You know, just looking like an upside-down you or something.
But I mean, Russell, the funniest part about Russell is like, he's still Russell Simmons.
Like, people don't understand how powerful he was back in the day.
So, like, to see him become all Zen and all that shit.
And then, like, he in office, like, he was intimidating.
You know, he, I was an intern.
He'd be like, who the fuck is this white boy?
And I would just have to be like, I post your meme, sir.
And he's like, man, what the fuck is that?
But he's powerful.
And, God damn, he, I mean, it was cool to just work with somebody like that.
I don't know.
I think he's in like Bally right now.
I think he got out.
He charges.
He's like, Dubai.
Where can I go where rape is legal?
Allegedly, guys.
Allegedly.
You hear the asterisk on that?
There's an asterisk next to that.
I don't know what the fuck Russell's doing.
He did go to some weird ass, but Thailand.
Wait, is it?
It was a Bali, right?
I think it was Bali.
Bali's in Indonesia?
I think so.
I believe.
Anyway, so I believe, bro.
I believe.
He just dipped and was like, new life.
And then, yeah.
He got 100 million in the bank, probably got 100 million cash.
Yeah.
I mean, who knows what the fuck he's doing?
He got away with it.
Yeah.
I mean, is that the move?
You just dip.
Yeah.
He's third world country it up.
Dude, that's it.
Roman Polanski, bro.
And he got to go to France.
Jesus.
How crazy is that?
That like he went to France and America was like, hey, we need him back because he was like raping girls.
And then France was like, well, how old were they?
And then we were like 15.
They were like, yeah.
And then they just said, what is 15?
Metrics his stuff.
Like, what?
The fuck?
Dog years.
You know.
And a year, take a year.
They let save.
Jet lag.
You live here.
Jet lag.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, man.
So, so here you are in this space.
You're understanding.
You're understanding actual new media.
Yeah.
And you're doing what I think some smart people do, which is like try to help somebody with a bigger platform than yourself.
Yeah.
You do that at ADD, right?
You do that.
You try to come to me.
Right.
And then eventually you make this jump to do it yourself.
What I want to know is when did that happen?
And what made you realize, okay, I'm going to start helping me instead of other people?
Yeah.
One of the guys that worked with Kev on stage, if you guys know him, that motherfucker hilarious.
He's like my mentor and everything.
I saw him doing it.
And I was able to do a show with Tony Baker.
Him, Tony Baker, and Tahir Moore tour together.
But he also has a show.
Yeah, Righteous and Ratchets with Doughboy.
With Doughboy.
Yeah, I know that.
Yeah, I confess on that.
Yeah, yeah.
Right, right.
Shout out to Wilding Out.
Yeah, he was on that.
I love all those guys.
Yeah, all those guys are so funny.
So what's cool about ADD is it kind of launched the career of so many people.
And then once it went under, you know, the town shine and everybody had a platform from that, essentially.
But I was working there.
I remember my first video that hit a million was like in 2017.
I was fucking geeked.
I was like, bro, like, where the hell is the video?
I just quit, where's mimosas?
No, dude, I was still working a day job.
Let's go.
Yeah, right.
Looks like we raped it.
So get 10 million.
We'll talk.
Yeah, I had that and I was like, I was just like, I like show Kevin.
He's like, fuck it.
All right, why don't I get back to work?
And then, you know, it was just day-to-day stuff.
What was the video?
It was mocking the Zoomies employees.
That was like the early, early on, the first character I really did that did well.
And then like a year ago, last September, I just felt it.
That I was like, man, I'm getting these views.
I'm starting to get money from videos.
I'm saving up money.
You know, like, I booked, when I really realized it is like kind of when I don't know who it was, it's just like, bro, just book your own one-nighters.
You know, do a door deal, book your own one-nighters, do local shit.
You got a big market in San Diego.
So I did my first like headlining gig in San Diego.
I was like, oh, I can pay rent off that shit.
Yeah.
And I was like, bro, if I do one one-nighter a month, I'm set, right?
Yeah.
So I kind of talked to Kevin on stage about it.
And he's like, look, if I didn't have kids or a wife, I would have dipped months ago.
Right.
Yeah.
So if I was talking to him, you know, he's, I mean, he's smart.
He doesn't waste any money or any of that shit.
So once he was like, oh, I would have dipped, I was like, word, I'm out.
So pretty much, yeah, I had enough money saved up for like a couple months rent if shit hit the fan or whatever.
And then right after that, I got a manager like a month later.
And then I got an agent.
And like, it's just like, things just like pop up.
It's just time.
Yeah.
Have they done anything for you?
They give me a bunch of like gig, just college gigs and managers are useless, bro.
I mean, my manager's the cool part about my manager is he came from CAA as an agent in the touring world.
So he's like a hybrid.
So he just got me a bunch of shit in the beginning.
Oh, if he's, if they're bringing you money, it's fine.
Right.
But most of them, I just don't think managers, you need them anymore because you can DM anybody you need.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like who can a manager like introduce you to that you can't introduce yourself to or your agent can't?
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
Like who can, who do you need to talk to?
It's true.
Yeah, I don't know.
But I mean, I was just so new to everything.
They're like, you need this, you need that.
And then, I mean, that whole industry world is so weird.
And I mean, I don't know how much stuff, I mean, I'm sure you've been, you've seen the ways of all this shit.
You're like, I had that, didn't have that.
And, you know, where you're at now, it's like, you just need you.
You are the show.
You are Andrew Schultz.
Like, that's what the club is booking.
You and then.
You're in a unique situation too, because a lot of the guys who come up from social, they don't have stand-up chops.
Right.
And then they have to learn it.
Start.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Learn it afterwards.
Yeah.
And some can like do it because they're just super talented, like that Joel McHale guy.
Apparently, he was just, he just learned stand-up.
Really?
And I think he probably had some.
I don't know.
I don't want to say he had writers, but I don't know.
Usually guys who don't do it and then do an hour usually maybe have a little help.
Yeah.
But a lot of these guys don't have a skill to monetize.
Right.
You know?
And then they're like, their agent would be like, we need to put you on a live show.
And they're like, all right, what do I do?
You got an hour to fuck around.
Yeah.
And bro, an hour is an insane amount of time.
I mean, even getting 10 minutes.
It's a long time listening to two people talk.
Yeah.
I mean, fuck, right now.
This is what I'm saying.
Shut up, Trevor.
We're the hot cost, you know?
But yeah, no, it's crazy.
I remember the first time like I had, I had, like, early on, I had 10 minutes.
Some guy's like, yeah, I do 15 tonight.
And I was like, what?
You could light me at eight, though, right?
You know?
I remember when I was starting stand-up, I had this little, it was a little audio recorder, and it looked kind of like a thick pencil.
And I would get off stage and I would look at the time.
Yeah.
And I remember hitting eight minutes and 56 seconds.
And you were like, I'm going to call it nine.
Yeah.
Yeah, round up 10.
I'm just like messaging everybody getting a half hour.
You know, Netflix 15.
You know, I could stretch five.
But I mean, even just building a tight 10, because I, because I was doing stand-up in the Bay Area in San Jose.
I had, you know, what I call 10 minutes out there.
I moved to LA with that, that Bay Area 10.
I came down here and I was like, oh, I got zero minutes, bro.
This shit is trash.
So to give like a social media guy, you know, an hour, it's fucking nuts.
Yeah.
Just to, I mean, you say your catchphrases and then, you know, after 10 minutes, people in the audience are like, ah.
Yeah.
Well, that's why you're in a good situation because you actually do stand-up.
Yeah.
And it's great converting because a comment I get a lot from people is they'll come out and be like, honestly, bro, I didn't know what the fuck to expect at your show, but like we just bought tickets because we support you and we're fans of you.
Like you could have just took a shit on stage for an hour.
That's so.
That's something that like, I hit you up when I saw you starting to pop with these other YouTube videos and I was like you got to insert the stand-up.
Stand-up yeah yeah yeah, even if it's not what they like, even if the videos don't do as well, because it will remind them that you do stand up well yeah yeah, the people that are interested yeah, you know, you might have a video get three million right, and you might have a stand-up video get 300 000 but at least those 300 000 people are like, oh shit, he's really good at standup.
Yeah, they're gonna come out because i'm super self-conscious about what clips I post about stand-up.
Yes, so I mean, because essentially, you're burning material.
You're gonna be like hey, this is what I want people, because when they google, you know Trevor Walls stand up.
That's what's gonna pop up, right for a show or whatever.
So um, but you need to do it because there's so many people out there that just don't know that you do stand-up exactly, there's layers to it.
Yeah, there's layers to it.
You know, it's like you got to find out, oh, that's the dude who did that video.
Oh, that's his name.
That's his instagram.
Oh, what's the swipe up.
Oh, he's in connection for what?
Like, there's so many layers to it, but if you pop on a stand-up, clip it, it's there.
You know exactly the first layer right, and it's on the channel that they already subscribe to exactly.
Because that's what happened with me, that's what changed everything with me is like I had all these people to listen to idiots and I didn't know that.
They didn't know that I did stand-up.
Really, like I assumed yeah, that once you assume, it's like the worst.
And you guys, they just started calling me a stand-up again.
Really, in the last couple years I used to be a podcaster really, and I love that, because I love doing this, but my identity was always hey i'm, you know what it is.
It's like you know, like Dominicans that like don't think they're black, but like you, looking at them, like are you yeah, you know what I mean like you're kind of black, you know what I mean.
But like, but that's what it was.
It was like I saw myself in some way, but my audience didn't, and I needed to show them who I was.
And the second I showed them I started selling out the shows right, but had I never put out the videos to those people who knew I did stand up and they never saw it.
Yeah, but you like, do stand up, do something.
That was the only thing I did.
Yeah, but they didn't know why and why would they know?
It's like even right now, like when I, when we go out and we do the tour right, I have an hour tour of my material, my jokes, just the full force, flagrancy.
It's.
It's crazy, but so many people have seen this the, the crowd work moments that happen randomly in a show.
Yeah, a lot of people come to the shows going yo, the whole show is gonna be crowdwork because they see what you give them exactly, are who you give them, that exactly.
So it's like important.
That's why I hit you early.
I was like keep putting the stand-up in because let both of those grow exactly.
You know, because it is forever different.
Like I know, in probably college markets you're gonna, you're gonna murder.
Are you doing college?
Yeah, i've been doing colleges.
They're great and just, and I mean just getting the full taste of like, because you know, a lot of times you don't have an opener and it's a student and they're like reading off a note card, they're like influencer Trevor Wallace, and then the crowd's like what the is she?
Okay, yo say this this this, this saved me at college shows with the horrible introductions.
You say I don't care really what you say, just say my name last.
Yeah, the worst thing is yeah, we got Trevor Wallace, you've seen him on ADD and YouTube, and he's an influencer, and he has Facebook and Instagram and TikTok and social media.
And you're like, and yeah, and I'm like, what's my cue?
Yeah.
And the audience doesn't know when to clap because they clapped at your name.
No, and now the guy always dismissed.
They're far from the mic.
They're scared as timid.
I'm like, just give me the mic.
Go fucking and bring myself up.
Like, this is the next guy.
You don't take anyone on the road?
Starting to a little bit.
What about Blau?
Blau, yeah, yeah.
We're going to do some, we got some shows coming up.
So, so you and Blau do a podcast.
Yeah.
Stiff socks, baby.
Stiff socks.
And I have no clue what this fucking podcast is about.
Yeah.
I just see the Instagram clips, which I find very funny.
And Blaustein, we've spoken about him on the show before.
Yeah, the clip.
Yeah, did we send you that?
No, I got to see it.
The clip, so my podcast co-host, you guys pulled that prank on it where you told nobody to laugh in the audience.
Yo, this is so.
Did we talk about this on this?
Yeah, we did.
We did.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So we got to see it.
I heard about it.
I need that clip.
Blaustein's like an old school, like, you know, he came up with us in stand-up in New York and he moved to LA to be an actor and shit.
And now he's doing podcasts like the rest of us, which is what he should be doing.
But yeah, why doesn't he just open for you on the rope, man?
Is there an ego thing with that?
No, we've done shows together and he's great because he gets the crowd fucking hot.
Oh, he's, yeah, dude.
He's going to rip, dude.
Oh, yeah.
No, it's great.
So, yeah, no, it's just our schedules and shit conflicting a little bit.
And we want to take the podcast on somewhat of a tour or do a stand-up and then the podcast.
But we're trying to figure out that.
So what is the podcast?
We just pretty much riff.
It's like up top.
We just riff about whatever's going on.
So why does he have a laptop on his laugh?
I never understood.
No matter what you're talking about, it's got nothing to do with that fucking laptop.
Oh, the laptop and the glasses is just purely to flex.
No.
Glasses?
I want some glasses every once in a while just to bust them out.
Get that little intelligence.
Oh, like he's wearing glasses.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ah, okay.
Oh, yeah.
What'd you think?
I don't know.
Like, you had fancy glasses on the table.
Oh, bro.
I mean, the fanciest glasses, you know?
Yeah, Pepsi cans.
But no, he, we'll have people like write in like questions and for advice.
Right.
So it's like up front, we just riff a little bit, and then it's more fan interaction towards the end where people, we do advice, and then we have this one that's called anonymous shit, where people just write in something they want to get off their chest.
Why We Just Riff Live00:15:24
Right.
And some dude was like, yo, I fucking went on a drug deal, and let's just say one person didn't come back.
And I'm like, did this motherfucker just confess murder on my podcast?
And it's like, well, we're not going to say his name, but shout out to this guy.
So it's cool to, it's a lot of just riff.
And that's kind of what we found.
We toyed with like the different ideas in it beforehand.
But like essentially, people just like to riff, you know?
Right.
And people will say shit like, I love falling asleep to your podcast.
You're like, is that a compliment?
Yeah.
Do we need to be louder?
Like, what the fuck?
So I liked what you guys were doing earlier.
And I'm surprised you guys went away from it, but you would like, you would do an activity.
Yeah, it was just too much time.
We do an activity.
We kind of vlog style it, chop it up, then we talk about it.
I thought it was great.
Yeah, it is time consuming.
Yeah.
But yeah, you would eat like a weird, like an ice cream burrito or something.
Something weird.
And we would vlog it and then we would post that in the YouTube episode.
But we found a lot of people would listen on like the Apple or Spotify.
So you're like, we shot all this fucking shit.
I edited this all night.
And then you guys just listened to the audio and they're like, yeah.
So it was a really good idea at first.
And I think if we ever get back to that or we start traveling with the podcast, we want to incorporate that a little bit just because it was fun.
I mean, like going to a different city and being experienced with something like, I mean, you do that too.
Every time you travel somewhere, you know, you get that footage of it.
But, you know, dropping in.
I mean, how much work is that shit?
It's a lot of work.
Yeah.
It's a lot of work.
Luckily, you got a team around you.
Me and Michael is me and Michael.
Yeah, you guys are the team.
Well, eventually you'll be in the position to like hire guys and bring them on.
Yeah, yeah, we just got a guy for social media.
So we're just like, thank fucking God.
You did?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, good.
We're just putting out an hour every week and be like, all right, well, hopefully, people listen.
Yeah, no, you got to push.
Yeah, I mean, but you understand that.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, so it's like just balancing that between my videos and the podcast and stand-up and all that world.
But that's really the three priorities, really.
It's somebody is going to be, somebody's going to figure this out.
And I wanted to talk to you about this because I thought you might have some perspective on it.
But someone's going to figure this fucking thing out and they're going to make so much goddamn money.
And I'm going to be pissed off if it isn't me.
But nobody's figured out really what the live podcast show is.
Yeah, I don't know what nobody knows.
It's okay.
And we'll talk about it now and try to figure it out.
But like, everybody tries a live podcast and it's not fun.
We think it's fun because we're in the same room.
But for the people listening, the only people that I've seen do it fun were, and it was horrible decisions.
I thought was fun.
And Al was just in DC at their show, and he said it was fucking incredible.
I mean, a great show.
But they've structured it.
They've gamified it.
And I haven't seen the live show, but just from the imagery that I'm getting, girls got to eat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They have a live show.
But the problem with the podcast is like when you do a live show, right?
When you and I are doing stand-up, we're trying to entertain every few seconds.
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
Podcasts.
Nobody listens to a podcast staring straight at a picture of me or you for shit to land.
Right.
And there's not the pressure of an audience next to us right now.
So are you?
Yeah, that's.
But it's secondary listening, right?
So when you listen to a podcast, you're doing your laundry, you're driving your car, you're working out the gym, you're doing work at work, you know, the office, something like that.
You're doing something.
Right.
So it's just there.
And when the funny thing happens, you're like, oh my God, that's hilarious.
And when it's not funny or when it's interesting, that's cool because you're doing work.
Right.
When you get into the live podcast setting and motherfuckers just talking, you're like, well, I need to do some laundry.
You're in the crowd.
I'm shooting off emails like I usually do.
Why I got to look at you.
Yeah, me and my girlfriend.
So we got problems.
I feel like going to sleep.
I didn't even think about that.
It's like, do you play to the crowd or do you riff normally and pretend they're not there?
So that's the tricky thing where the medium is fighting itself, right?
I believe that the live podcast show needs structure and games.
And usually comedians, we hate games because we're like, I don't need games.
Yeah.
I can create the entertainment out of nothing.
Yeah, you don't want to listen to me talk, fuck you.
All right.
Or I'm so good at just talking that I'll make it fun for you listening there.
Right, right.
Right.
But what we do is we think of bits and we structure these bits and we like workshop them forever and whittle down a 10-minute idea to three minutes of like just bang, bang, bang.
We can't do that in the live podcast format.
I don't think we should do the live podcast format because then it's not replicatable, right?
Then we're essentially doing stand-up just with a few other people.
Right.
Because you all got bits, you're like running, or like somebody crowd mentioned something.
Oh, I got a bit from fucking 2013 about that.
Then you're running bits and your co-hosts looking at you like this motherfucker running bits right now.
We're just doing team stand-up.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that is one way of doing it.
I'm sure some people do it that way and doesn't work.
What were you saying?
No, no, no.
I was just going to interject in terms of horrible.
And I also went to 85 South.
Yes.
Oh, I feel 85 South, it's too much crowd engagement.
So that's, I love those guys.
These guys are next.
This is the new King's comedy.
They post their clips and they do millions of views.
And the whole thing is riffing.
But there might be a situation where...
Fans seem to love it.
Right.
I feel Horrible has a good balance of fan engagement and then their own shit, where it's just them talking, you are engaged with them.
Their only problem that I saw at the show was horrible decisions that is.
A horrible decision is that they have to, And whenever it's a new segment, they need to control the crowd.
So if they have like a high energy segment and then they want to like just talk, the crowd is still, the energy is going.
So now they start talking and shit like that.
They have to.
It's a tricky thing, but I swear to God, what is the one thing that's horrible about stand-up?
It's lifespan.
Right?
You tell a joke, that joke is no longer funny to your crowd.
Yeah.
Right?
And you feel it.
And you feel it when you tell the same joke to the same crowd or the same people who have seen it before.
Yeah.
It's one of actually the great things about like the type of content you're putting out on YouTube is I can watch the dad thing multiple times.
Yeah.
It has a longer shelf life than a joke.
Yeah.
But a joke usually, because it's more relatable and engaging than a joke usually has one big switch.
You have 10 to 15 to 20 punchlines in this tiny little video.
Just pop up.
Where the joke is this same length, only set up, set up, set up, set up.
Yeah.
Punch.
You know where the punch is coming.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So what I'm trying to think about, and maybe we could just brainstorm right here, but we have, if we could create live podcasts and actual create the show, right?
That's where we become rock stars because we have a replicatable format which we can be funny and entertaining in without losing material.
Yeah, it's almost like you'd want to be like down in front of like a double-sided mirror.
Like you don't know they're there, but they're on a fucking giant audience behind.
And we're just doing this right here, but there's a, there's a, that might even be it.
Or, and then they're just over there laughing their ass off.
And we have, because I mean, if you hear laughter, that's going to fuck with your mentality.
You're going to be like, oh, yeah.
You're going to lean into it.
Yeah.
That's fine.
Yeah.
And be like, yeah, y'all ever been in Connecticut?
What are you talking to?
So if you could, because that's, I mean, but that's voyeuristic, right?
Now they're watching and we don't know we're being watched, but we are.
Yeah.
But I think so many of these people come out to the show just because they want to be in the room with us.
Yeah, that's true.
You listen to someone for six hours a week.
It's like, oh, you're in my town.
I got to see you, bro.
I got to dap you up.
I got to do whatever.
Yeah, exactly.
What Horrible Decisions did when I hosted their show, it was really interesting.
I went up and I hosted and they asked me to play this game called Biggest Whore in the Room or something.
Biggest Hoe in the Room.
And what happens is everybody stands up.
It's already interesting.
Everybody stands up.
And then I say slutty things that get increasingly slutty.
And if you haven't done it, never or whatever.
Never have I ever.
Never have I ever.
It's the same shit, right?
And, but, dude, it's hilarious.
It's probably murders.
And this is why it's great.
I was thinking, this is why it's great.
It presents situations where our natural comedic abilities get to come into play.
Yeah.
So instead of us having to create a premise and execute it and then punch it and then tag it, the funnies here.
Here.
We're responding.
Bro, I mean, it's the same thing when somebody yells something out at dumb at a show.
People are like, how do you deal with hecklers?
Like, it's not hard to deal with someone, because the people that yell out usually aren't the most intelligent.
Yeah, they're going to be the dummies.
They throw something out, right?
And it's just so wild and dumb.
And you're just quick on your feet.
Boom.
Like, you're great on your feet.
So how do we create the right throwouts?
Right.
That's the structure we need to figure out.
How do we create the right interactions from the audience, not the wrong ones?
Because when we go crowd participation or ask questions, then it gets, everybody starts talking to each other.
It's too disorganized.
People are yelling out random shit.
But within the games, and there could be multiple within the games, we could create those moments where our comedic, you know, what is it, our comedic sensibilities will be really flexed.
Yeah.
What is that?
When we know what that is, we're on tour non-stop.
Yeah.
And people come back like the fucking Backstreet Boys.
They go to all three shows.
Yeah.
Bruce Springsteen, they go to all four shows.
That will happen.
And it's a new show every time when you do it because you're not running big.
You don't know what they're going to say.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So they dropped that on 85 South.
They put that on Spotify and Apple and all that.
Just like it's a normal show.
Yeah, but they're just riffing in the moment, right?
Which is great.
And that's awesome that you can do it.
But it also leaves a situation where, like, all right, well, what if what if that riff isn't what going?
What's going on?
What if the audience isn't feeling like I feel like there's a way to give a little more structure to it and then control, you know, the variables?
Yeah.
I mean, I mean, they got to figure it out.
But, but, yeah, it's, I think you were saying, like, once somebody finds that perfect setup, the one, two, three, it's, I mean, yeah, it's great.
Not everybody's going to be able to do that.
Right.
You know, like, if I got to, if I got to send some podcasts on the road where they're not even comedians and they're not like, those guys are genius at riffing.
They're really genius.
Oh, this shows are fucking, like, it's hard to see a crowd like go that fucking nuts like over some like alt guy in Echo Park who's telling like quick wine-liners off a high coupon.
And people are like, oh, nice.
Nice, nice.
So you see, the crowd love the level they got is like, they got it.
Yeah.
And I mean, DC and Carlos, like, those motherfuckers got it.
They got it.
So funny.
So what about the people that don't?
They're people that got big followings that don't got it.
They're like history podcasts.
You're like, you getting standing O's talking about fucking shit that already happened?
Yep.
You remember the Civil War?
No.
It's fucking not alive yet.
How are we?
Yeah, standing O, bro.
So that's the thing we got to figure out.
Like, like David Dobrik, right?
If he wanted to go on tour, he'd sell it out.
Oh, bro.
He could sneeze and the crowd would fucking just die.
But what if we gave him structure?
What if we're like, here's your show, and here's how we're going to do these things and create your show.
Here is this structure.
Here's this platform.
Go on the road.
We'll just take a cut for building it out.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
See what I'm saying?
You fucking, you're like the showrunner of a podcast.
Barnum Bailey, dog.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not playing.
P.T. Barnum?
What's Barnum Bailey?
That's not the circus?
I think it is.
What is the circus?
I don't know what it was.
I thought it was a producer or something.
One of them shits.
But the point is, like, I don't know.
There's something that we're all leaving.
We're all leaving it out.
Yeah.
We're leaving meat on the bone.
Yeah.
I think that's really what it is.
Think about most people listening to podcasts.
Most podcasts cannot tour because they don't know what the fuck to do.
No.
And once we figure out a way for them to tour, why is there TV anymore?
That shit was wild, you know.
I mean, even like, you know, Sean Evans found a way to do hot ones live.
He did?
Yeah, he did hot ones live.
He's done a few times.
He just did it with the baby at Complex Con.
Son, the Crab Fisherman got a live show.
Yeah, I mean, it's...
You know what?
I figure that is an easy show to execute live.
What's that?
The hot ones.
Because it's just like question, answer, and you just waiting to see their reaction with the hot shit.
Yeah.
It's easy.
It's interesting because it's not like a funny show.
It depends on who's on it.
So it doesn't have the expectation.
Right.
But the hotness of the wing creates the tension.
Oh, yeah.
If you're willing to stay glued in.
It's like watching that show on a phone or a laptop because you feel it's close.
The camera's on you.
But imagine being in the fucking nosebleeds being like, is that the hot wings?
What sort of show?
What show is this?
Just turn into my fucking grandma.
What show is this?
Hot what?
Wings?
Who's flying here?
There is a certain point where like distance matters.
Yeah.
Like with live shows.
100%.
I've never seen a show at the garden as a stand-up.
Right.
But I imagine you have thoughts.
I saw Kevin Hart.
Luckily, I had good seats, so I was close.
Oh, okay.
That doesn't matter.
Yeah, I know.
But I'm pretty sure if you're far, you're just looking at the jumbo truck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's so like there's nothing, there's no closeness about when you go to a concert.
Son, I saw in Buffalo.
Metallica was performing across the street from the comedy club.
Damn.
Super white.
And I went all in.
I love Buffalo.
Yeah, it's a great city.
And that's the city.
That's the city for Metallica.
Bro, the whitest of whites are coming out.
I founded Buffalo Wings and Metallica fans.
That's the two things they're known for.
So I'm on the floor because the guy that was opening for them is a comic.
Okay.
And he asked if he could do a little guest spot on my show.
So he brings me on.
Metallica is a comic?
No, no, no, no.
Yeah, yeah.
Bro, I'll say, who's fucking doing that gig?
Big Jay Oakerson?
No, Jim Brewer.
Oh, yeah.
Jim Brewer.
And then there's another guy that I'm forgetting his name.
I feel bad right now, but he was opening for them as well.
Wow.
And Jim has tons of heavy metal songs, not songs, but bits and shit like that.
People know him.
The heavy metal people know him.
Point is, I'm on the floor.
And while it was super cool to get into it, it's so vast.
You're not, it doesn't feel like a concert.
You know what I mean?
Like when you're at a fucking concert where you're like squished in with people, that feels like you're in the middle of something.
That feels like you're part of it.
And I wonder if that same thing happens with stand-up.
You're like, you're in a fucking booth with a glass thing.
You've got shrimp cocktail in the back.
There's no crowd control.
Like back in the day, one of my mom's favorite comics was Amy Schumer.
Think how you feel.
You know, her son does stand up, but she's like, I want to see Schumer.
All right.
And Mark Norman opened and he crushed.
And so I'm, but this was at the forum.
This was the Mark, man.
Yeah.
This is at the Mark crushed.
He like, yeah.
But this is at the forum and I'm in the way back fucking seats.
And it's like, my mom brought you to see Amy Schumer?
She wanted to go out about her tickets for her birthday.
Okay.
This was, yeah, this was in like maybe 2014, 2015.
He purchased Amy Schumer tickets.
You know, you got to support her.
I purchased Mark Norman tickets.
That's what's up.
And Amy dropped in and did an hour with her name on the tour and the ticket.
But I went for Mark Norman, you know.
I bought Mark Norman tickets.
So yeah, man.
I mean, look, I went in there as a comic being like, yeah, let me see what you got.
It's like, she doesn't give a fuck what I got.
She got millions of dollars that night.
Opening For Amy Schumer00:03:18
Facts.
But there's no crowd control in an arena.
Like, there's people just eating a hot dog.
I drops a hot dog.
Now it hits the back of my neck.
You think, like, in a club, somebody be like, the fuck's going on over here?
Stop.
But out there, it's like, it's like, it's just so much noise when the joke hits.
Like, you don't know what the fuck's happening.
Like, you think a joke lands, but it could be some dude just got his ass beat in the corner.
That's what they're laughing at.
It's just, there's no connectivity, which is nice about the clubs out here.
I did a few spots in town.
Right.
And it's like the clubs are like 80 people to 100 people max.
And it's like, it's in there.
It's packed.
If you're funny, you're funny.
If a joke doesn't hit at a New York club, you feel it.
New York Comedy Club, 24th Street location.
Did you perform at that one?
I did Broadway and I did Stand in New York.
So no.
Okay.
You didn't need a brag.
New York Comedy Club, 24th Street location, small little black box room.
80, 100 people fit there.
I mean, like 100 Rampack, probably.
It's my favorite room in the city, hands down.
Yeah.
Because you have so much control of the room.
Right.
Nobody feels confident in that room.
You get in these bigger rooms, they start to be in the back of the crowd, and all of a sudden they feel a little confident to say something or whisper or talk to their friend, et cetera.
This room, you could see everybody in their fucking eyes when they're all around you.
And because of that, that tension is built up and everybody's super invested.
They're in it.
They're fucking in it, dude.
Yeah.
I like that.
Yeah, man.
It's my favorite.
It's my favorite room.
This week was interesting with the New York Comedy Festival.
Did you do shows for it?
Yeah.
So my show is a part of...
I did.
There we go.
Fucking this asshole.
I did two shows at Grammar C.
So that was fucking great, man.
But I just did spots around town that weren't a part of the.
Thanks for inviting me, bro.
I appreciate it.
I live a block away, dude.
I appreciate you, man.
What an asshole.
Dude, I was posting about it.
What an asshole, dog.
Shit.
I'll see those posts.
I was opening for Amy Schumer.
That's what it was.
Oh, that's what it is.
Is she down to the Grammar C now?
Yeah.
Things ain't going that well.
Respond to the grammars, you talk?
Yeah, but no, I did those shows, but from what I was hearing from other New York people, they're like, oh, man, all these writers are in town, this type shit.
So, I mean, I don't know how it was on your end, but I think all the shows got impacted by just a bunch of outside people for the festival, right?
What do you mean?
Because you're like, it was interesting this week with a festival.
Oh, I thought crowds sucked this week.
Yeah.
Because all the casuals come out.
Oh, I see.
The casual fans.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, like, a casual comedy fan, like, they just don't understand.
What they're thinking is, like, you know, in like Montreal, there's like jazz fests.
So all of a sudden, people who've never listened to jazz their entire life are like, we should go check out some jazz.
Yeah, got you.
And since it's New York Comedy Festival, there are people like, we should see some comedy this week.
Dude, the festival.
Yeah.
So every club was sold out.
Gotcha.
And now you have these people who don't truly understand comedy.
So when you're saying, you know, me, like, I like to push, right?
I like to say fucked up shit.
And I got to deal with these fucking cowards groaning.
Really?
Oh, dude.
And you can just feel that it's not like that New York comedy audience that loves comedy, you know?
And it gets it.
Right.
Like, it gets what we're doing here.
Like, if you had a comic club on a random Tuesday night at 11.30 p.m., like, you'd like, just bring it.
You know, give the raw.
So you felt that with people being like, oh, yeah.
NYC Comedy Audience Issues00:15:29
And then I get upset because I find them to be cowards.
Yeah.
And I just start calling them cowards.
I go, you're awesome.
One of the funniest clips I just saw was Tim Dylan going off on a New York audience.
You see that?
You fucking awesome.
Just laying it to him.
It was like a mini Philly rant from Bill Burr.
It was, oh my God, it was like a one-minute clip just shitting on him.
Dude, it is.
Yeah, check out that clip.
I think Tim posted it on his Instagram, but it's really funny.
It's just a minute of him just going in on New York audience.
It was funny.
Dude, it was so true, man.
It's just like, it's just so, it's like the things that they'll fucking groan.
Groaning is the most pussy thing.
Do you know what I mean?
Also, like, what value does that add?
No, I need to know when in life you groan.
Like, have you groaned by yourself at home?
Maybe never once.
A heavy sigh if they take too long at Starbucks, I might be like, no, no.
It's an exaggerated this motherfucker right here.
I groaned today on the taxi ride.
No, because I gave the guy the address and he's like, should I just drop you over there?
And I'm like, is that the fucking address that I gave you?
Dude, Uber drivers love doing that.
I do sit on the left and I've never been here.
Dude, I'm clearly wearing a flannel.
It's 40 degrees out.
I'm freezing.
I got in this so I could go from door to door.
And he's trying to avoid the whole bull traffic, you know, the bull statue shit.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I wish Akash was here because I only tipped him 30 cents and I was paranoid to do that.
Like my white killed.
Did you like round up if it was like, you know, $9.70, you made it $10?
Or were you just like, it's $10.
Here's an extra 30.
I gave him the change.
Okay.
I got a quarter and a nickel.
Cool.
Okay, got you.
Yeah, yeah.
If you just psych up that.
If you round up, you're good.
But if you're just like, here's 30 cents, bitch, it's like, bro, kill me at that point.
Just tell the sniper on the top of the fucking tower to push.
Wait, you took a yellow or an old?
I took a yellow, bro.
I'm like, oh, I never tip a Uber.
They have like dollar amounts.
Yo, it's just so cool.
And Uber goes like, what would you like to tip?
I'd like to skip.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm going to do right now.
The dude did this today.
I have all my Sukas because we're going to the airport.
And he opens the trunk and he gets out.
All the bags are in, but he gets out and he's like, you good?
You need anything?
I'm like, I know how to load a truck here.
Just pop the shit.
Oh, yeah.
But they tried to be a little bit cabbage.
Whenever Al picks up the camera bag, I'm like, you got it?
You got anybody?
You got it.
So you got your friend is moving.
You're like, yo, you need help?
Are you good?
Or you good means I'm not going to help you.
I'm suggesting how you should feel.
Oh, yeah, exactly.
But you good, right?
You good, right?
Yeah, man.
Yeah, that's the thing about the driver-like star system is it is gender bias because a woman will never help you with your bags.
Like a woman, Uber driver.
Have you ever?
No.
Sometimes I'll wait just to see.
Dude, is that when you let out the side?
That was an appropriate time to be like, let me tell you.
That's when the groan comes.
I'll wait, right?
I'll come from the airport and I'll go.
I'll see the Uber driver as a girl, right?
And I'll go to the back to the trunk and I'll just stand there, right?
She goes out the window, it's unlocked.
You're like, oh.
No, no, no.
This is what she did.
This was brilliant.
And I'm waiting.
I'm like, I'm going to make this bitch get out this fucking Uber and earn her fifth star, right?
She waits for a second, right?
And then all of a sudden, the trunk just goes, boom, boom.
And she pops the trunk, but doesn't get out.
So she's basically saying, you're going to put your own fucking luggage.
But I'm cool with that.
I get it.
Or you like, I need hands-on.
See, I'm more likely to have you become suck.
I want the whole service.
I got to pay her more.
Like, I got to pay her more.
Why?
I need the whole service.
You're not even paid her boy.
You're saying for her to earn the fifth star.
She got to earn the fifth, bro.
Hey, she got to earn that fifth, bro.
This is why tipping is out of hand now.
Yeah, well, it's out of hand now because we just tip for no fucking reason.
You're more likely to give somebody like three stars if they got the windows down with no AC.
Use the AC.
Fuck the planet.
Why am I going to be in the back?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You ain't got a phone charger or nothing.
You got an Android up front.
I'm like, Meg, accommodate.
I like the chargers.
I'm in on the charger.
I am always low on battery.
So, like, if you got a charger back there, five stars.
You total the car while I'm in it, but I got 98% battery, five stars.
I don't give a shit.
I'm very easy to work with.
Yeah, you got to have the chargers.
Water, I don't really care about that.
Water's a little, it's weird.
I don't even take the water now.
They're always the tiny little ones, too.
Yeah.
Like jammed in the crevice of a seat.
They're all warm.
I'm like, I'm good.
I don't need hydration.
Yeah, I don't fuck with the waters, really.
But you got to open that trunk, bro.
Yeah.
You got to get out.
Yeah.
Get out the car.
What did you end up giving a rating?
Say again?
What rating did you give her?
I'm behind you.
She's swimming in the fucking ocean right now with the fish.
I didn't rate her, bro.
Yeah.
I didn't rate her.
Because you know what?
Right after the rating comes a tip.
Oh, yeah.
So if you skip the rating, you don't got to deal with the tip.
Because I don't like the guilt of the tip where they're like, how much should you?
And they're bold.
It's like what you were saying.
It's like $1, $5, $25 card.
And it's like, bro.
Downstairs at Gregory's Coffee, the coffee ones, the suggested tip starts at $20 and goes up to $25.
What happened to nothing?
Do your job.
What happened to do your fucking job?
That's your job.
To make the coffee.
You don't make it nicer.
I'm not getting extra milk.
What the fuck are you doing for a tip?
You're getting paid to serve coffee.
Why the fuck?
Why the fuck do I have to tip you to do your job?
But the funniest part is they try to make you feel bad about the no tip button is always off like a little loan or like a kid eating its lunch by itself.
It's like 15, 20, 25.
Then the corner is like, or you could do no tip.
Like little puppy dog staring at Liver.
Yeah, exactly.
Shaking the teardrops, you got a sign.
You could do no tip, but then I got to tell my ma and pa that I don't have a tip money.
Are you eating porridge right now?
Why the tip button?
We got to really look at this tip thing.
I know I keep coming back to it, but it's too much.
No, it is a lot.
It's everything is tip.
Right, exactly.
I told you, if they don't do any work, especially coffee, if I get cold brew and all they're doing is just pouring it out of the thing, no tip.
You're not doing anything.
You're doing nothing.
If you're not having it.
It's gravity.
It's gravity.
You just push the button and the water comes down.
Nah, but I'm talking about cold brew.
It's already prepared.
It's cold already.
So all they're doing is just pouring it right out of the body.
You're from the little thermal shit.
Even with the fucking lattes, I didn't ask for the art.
I think that's so stupid.
It's like painting shit in my foam, and then I got to pay you for this painting.
I don't even fucking want.
I don't want to leave.
I don't want none of that shit.
It's infuriating to me.
And then they look at you with their little, they want the approval from you for their art.
They're like spit on it.
Did you like?
Did you like?
Bro, what I love to get.
Get the fucking leaf out of here.
It's just autumn.
Give a shit if it's falling in fucking Times Square.
Real talk, I like putting the sugar on top of it without even looking at it, right?
I don't do sugar anymore, but back when I would do sugar, I maintain eye contact with them.
I'd be like, hey, thanks so much.
Without even looking at their artwork, and I pour the sugar on the top and then start mixing and then look back.
Like, no, sorry, you ruined it.
It was the star of David.
Like, what the fuck?
I noticed the Jewish holidays were coming up, and I noticed the new nose on you there.
Screaming rachels.
No, that's so funny.
That's how I know I'm in New York.
You look at artifice.
That's what you're going to do.
Put your fucking, what is it?
Your wokeness in your foam.
Yeah, bro.
That's how I know I'm in New York.
They give you nice art.
And you're like, the fuck is this shit?
It's a fucking groan on top of the coffee right there.
Don't put nothing on my, don't put nothing on my phone.
Don't.
What are other things that they expect tips at?
Just about it.
Yo, can I be honest with you?
Let's talk about this.
And I know, and I got, and shouts to my guy, because I got a great, I got a great like bar hairstylist.
He likes to be called hairstylist.
And he hooks it up.
That's a tip.
Yeah, you got it.
He hooks it up, bro.
My man is nice.
He charges.
I mean, he works with like, you know, like super famous people.
He hooks it up.
He's an asshole.
Alex, love you.
But we got to stop tipping hair, folks, right?
Yeah.
Like, think about it.
I don't tip him.
We just do a little side deal, right?
But why are we tipping somebody to cut the hair?
I would just include it in the price.
I'd be like, one shot.
You set your price.
Yeah, exactly.
Why do I need to, like, shouldn't you be trying your best?
Right.
Like, I'm mind-blowing.
Like, damn, I didn't.
It's your job to try your face.
Did you give me a fade?
Oh, fuck.
Is it a tapers?
There's little things they'll do.
Like, if they give me the hot towel or the clean razor on the back, I'm like, I'm impressed.
I'm like, here's a five.
But you're paying for that.
Yeah.
But I'm like, I'm more likely to tip this.
Cray, do you tip the guy you buy a car from?
Do you tip the Avis bitch?
When you get a fucking Tahoe on the road, are you like, yo, thank you so much for telling me to go to slot to 639?
No.
No, right?
It's why are we tipping for everything?
I don't know.
That is interesting.
Don't other countries just not tip?
They get it.
They get it.
And you know what?
The service is a little worse for food.
I don't mind tipping for food.
Yeah, but there's still shitty ass service, and people are like, suggested.
I went to brunch out here the other day.
Them motherfuckers didn't give a shit about me, bro.
Sorry.
I went to lunch and I had a T-bone steak.
And I tipped that shit in Copenhagen Long Cut, you know?
Yeah, I only eat steaks with two in a bag of it.
No, the guy didn't give a shit.
He's just like, drop, like, literally check, drop, toss it, could have hit my fucking omelet.
Yeah.
And the first suggested tip is 25%.
Bro, I'm not good at math.
I'm taking the suggestions.
I'm like, sure.
Oh, no, no.
No, we're not doing 25.
We're not going 25.
20 is my limit.
But even 20.
20 is like, you know, you always have one friend that works in the service industry and they're like, I tip 48%.
We do fucking work here.
They're always like, you got to treat a server nicely.
People are ridiculous with this.
48% is you don't have to treat that.
How nicely we have to treat them.
But it's always people in the service industry that are like, yeah, I give them a fucking Labradoodle puppy after each meal.
I've been in the service industry and I know how shitty it is.
Okay.
But why?
It's just mind-boggling to me that it's just getting out of hand.
Yeah, no, for real is it?
It's getting out of hand.
We need to pull it back.
Don't we need to pull it back?
It's like...
No.
No, because I'm on the road and people listen to this shit.
So I love all the servers.
No, I like, listen, who tips more than me?
Real talk.
No, you do tip.
I had a nightmare about tipping, bro.
Like, the people who were nightmare about tipping, bro.
What happened?
You woke up black?
Son?
I get the black struggle, man.
I really think I'm a black man.
I think I'm a black man because you tipped the driver 30 cents this morning.
Son.
That's because he was brown, bro.
He gets it, bro.
Us black and browns, we get this shit, though.
We don't got to conform to your white shit, tipping 49% on a fucking taxi ride.
All you did was that.
You did that for work.
That's the total work.
Hold on.
This is that.
To drive me to my location, you did that.
And then sometimes you did that.
And then move your wrist centimeters.
I got to tip you 20.
Oh, bro.
You don't make this yellow light.
No tip.
All right.
Son.
Are you watching Uber drivers miss the right turn?
They look at the app, then look back like nothing happened.
I'm in the back, like.
I can see where we going.
There's a man in front of us, bro.
Son, when the guy said to me, Is it okay if I drop you off here?
The balls.
The balls on you to drop me off at not where I exactly.
You think I didn't know where I wanted to go?
Is that you think I'm going to go?
Yeah, I'll round up locations.
I was going to 40th Street, but let's go 37, you know?
I'm trying to walk up that croissant from the negotiating.
This is not the art of the deal.
Can't you imagine?
I dropped me off at 40s.
He's like, What about 38th?
You're like, leave me at 39.
39th?
Fair enough.
Yeah, we got to figure out the tipping, man.
It's getting a little absurd.
We're getting a little absurd.
Tip for food.
Tip for food.
Drink is not.
Do we tip bartenders?
Yeah, I do dollar per drink.
Yeah, dollar per drink is that makes sense.
Okay, here's the thing.
Now drinks are fucking 16 bucks, 17 bucks.
You get your bill for drinks is $80.
You're going to tip $4 on $80.
Oh, shit.
I'm thinking like when I'm at the bar, you're just ordering per drink.
That's why they get you to put the card down because you got to tip based on the bill.
Oh, shit.
Right, right, right.
Because if it's a one-off and you scrabble some change, they're like, yeah, good.
Maybe $2.
I don't mind.
Look, I don't mind tipping.
These two guys brought my couch up my fucking stairs, eight floors.
Jeez.
$200.
$200.
Wait, that was the tip, but that's how much they charged to do that.
I think that was the tip.
You think?
Well, it wasn't in the price.
It wasn't in the price.
Okay.
Right?
But they were like, we'll do it for $200.
That's a tip.
That's outside of it.
They were just totally.
They told you they would do it for $200.
So that's how much they charge for doing that.
So you did not tip them.
That's the tip.
That's the tip.
I tip them.
I tip them that, bro.
Nah, that's a good idea.
I'll shout you out.
Nah, that's a lot of people.
What about that?
That's a lot of tips.
$200 is great.
That's a lot of tips.
That's a lot of tips because also a lot of floors.
Eight floors?
That's eight floors.
They were sweating, bro.
That shit was worth every single day.
He's sitting there eating a cup of noodles.
He's being like, yeah, I was hitting him with the Alex.
I was like, yo, you got it?
You got it?
You're good.
You got it, right?
The baths are good.
All right, cool.
You got it.
He's pushing it with the forehead.
You good?
There's lemonade up here when you get to the top.
But you good?
Tell them how many floors were left.
I was like, they couldn't do math.
I was like, two more, guys.
Two more.
You're lying to him.
You know, when you're 20 minutes away, you're like, yo, five minutes away.
You're like, yeah, there's one more floor.
Bro, we're on the first floor.
Yeah, well.
One more building, should I say?
One more building.
But that's a tip.
That wasn't a tip.
No, because they're just supposed to bring it.
Any labor.
Yeah.
Labor is a tip.
Certain things we...
What?
No, but you asked them before.
We were going to the museum and the bitch had a fucking tip jar at the museum.
Oh, yeah, that was wild.
I almost took that jar and fucking emptied it on the ground.
I almost spiked that fucking tip jar.
What are you doing?
Dude, you might have visited me in a past life because bitch move here, but I used to work at a frozen yogurt store in high school.
Every stoner did.
And there's a tip jar by the counter, but it was a self-served one where you make it and then they weigh it and you pay for it.
This guy looks at the tip jar.
He goes, why did people tip you?
And I was just like, bro, I don't know.
I just put it there.
Son, what do we do?
What's going on?
I don't know.
What is happening?
Truly, what is happening?
You could just put a tip.
Yeah, we feel guilty.
We feel like it's a good thing.
It's the same way.
Like, you know what?
You've been to Venice Beach, right?
Everybody's selling mixtapes.
And you're like, no, I don't want it.
And the guy's like, $20.
You're like, no, I'm good.
He goes, okay, $15.
And you're like, okay, fine.
It's like a guilt, and you just have to.
I have never felt that way.
Oh, I don't know.
But I know people like that.
They give in.
They grow up with black people.
They got seven mixtapes.
They're like, oh, they're going to interact with a black person.
They never listen to.
Those people right there you're talking to are from Sweden and they've never met a black person.
And then a black person comes up to them and goes, can I have some money?
And they go, here's my.
Yes bro, these are the I know exactly.
They got the 70s albums, are sitting there they never listen to.
It's probably all just ripped from lime wire.
None of it's our actual music.
You know, they know, but yeah, but it's the same person.
It's like a like a guilt type thing.
So when that giant screen comes up, it's like, tip 30 yeah, but I drew a fucking Toronto maple leaf on your coffee.
Yeah, I'm not doing it it's, it's.
You're just like, okay, but now I don't feel guilty anymore.
Now I feel resentment.
Right now I'm angry.
Yeah it's, it's gone over.
It's on the other side.
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Also, certain jobs I'd rather tip like or something like.
If like, there's no turbulence on a flight, here's a five big yeah, but if you're, like you said, pouring some cold brew, it's like, bro, let me do it.
Can we, can we actually talk about this?
Do strippers get paid by the club?
They got to pay the club to work that night.
That's what I remember.
That's right.
That's which is also kind of creative, a little ethnography on that.
That I do remember.
Okay, then we could tip them, because I was always about to say, if they're on salary, oh wow, everything is added value.
What do we got benefits, girl?
Yeah, what are we tip them for?
I didn't think about that.
Yeah, they got to pay the club which is kind of wild to work.
Yeah, that's right, they.
It's like they're barbers, you know how, like a barber has tipping out the.
They're renting the pole, but they're tipping out the dj, they're paying the club.
They do a whole thing.
That's wild.
Yeah, I went out to the steak uh restaurant last night.
Uh called uh, Smith AND Walinski's have you heard of this?
It's like a Good Old Fashioners Lugers, etc.
And uh, basically same idea, but in Manhattan and um, we were there for an hour and I the tip was forty dollars right, and i'm assuming he had four other tables like mine, maybe five at the time, it's probably at the time.
Yeah yeah, so we're talking about 200 an hour.
He's got to tip out a little bit.
Let's say he walks with low-end 50 of his money.
Guy's making a hundred dollars an hour.
I mean people that do work in that industry and work at a nice restaurant, the tips like you are making and it's all cash, cash.
You ain't got to report any of that.
You just stash out your house.
You ain't got to tax any of that shit.
It's just, I don't know, do you you have to report any of that?
What tips?
Here's my thing a little bit.
You have to report the tips, they'll come for you.
But my thing is, working at a cheap restaurant or an expensive restaurant, the action of the waiter doesn't change.
The price of the item changes.
Right, and we tip based on the price of the item.
Yeah, but we should be tipping based on the action of the waiter.
Oh, i'm walking in the kitchen.
Who's the chef to cook?
This here's 20 bucks.
This was amazing.
We don't even tip him.
No, I mean they?
What do they see?
They don't even.
They probably don't even know tips exist like, no, you're getting cash for my excellence, that's it.
He said medium.
Well, what does that even mean?
And I did it and I don't see a dollar fam, we're not even tipping the right person.
But usually the head chef is probably getting paid more than the manager.
Yeah, the head chef's getting real money, getting real money.
Yeah, he's making real money true okay, but he's got to be hot his whole life.
He earns every penny.
Imagine your whole life, 60 hours a week.
You're standing in front of a stove.
Oh god, god bless those.
I mean the Salt Bay dude.
He does that for your table.
Real talk.
You know, Mexicans.
Maybe that's why we make you walk here to like, get used to the heat, you know.
So by the time you're in the kitchen you're like, i've been here before, It's nothing.
We got to get you acclimated to what you're about to do.
Dude, imagine they had Mexicans in the bottom of the Titanic putting a coal in.
So you know how fast the Titanic would have blasted through that iceberg?
So that iceberg wouldn't stand a chance if you had Javier and Hector down there.
Fuck it, let's go full speed ahead, Captain.
That's the whole movie.
It's five minutes they break through the iceberg, just straight through like a sewer onto land.
Shit, man.
I will say, you know, the salt bay dude, his restaurant, he comes out and does this shit.
I'll tip for that.
You know?
That's extra.
Yeah.
Oh, it's got it.
I mean, he probably charges.
Meaning he's doing more than what is provided on the menu.
He's going above and beyond, so we'll tip you.
Right.
But if you refill my water twice and you want 48%, we're not doing that.
Yeah.
We're not.
Yo, you know what?
Some real shit.
Like, that, do you wash your elbows?
Wash my elbows?
Yeah.
At a restaurant?
No.
Wait, what?
I mean, just like in general.
I don't, not.
Not really, right?
I don't think so.
Like, my man is doing all this with all the confidence.
But he's doing all this with the confidence that his elbows are clean, son.
Sweat rolls down the back.
He's been like this all day at the park.
You know what I mean?
Like, he's been hanging out.
He's been rubbing his food in it.
Rubbing his food.
He's been praying at the mosque.
His elbows all over a dirty ass carpet, you know?
And then this guy's dropping salt off of his bow, and all of us are getting food poisoning from that.
I don't think it's that.
Everybody's like, oh my God, it's so cool that he's dropping a salt.
Yeah.
I don't like it.
Hey, hey, look at you.
You see this?
Look, ready?
Ready?
And release the crown.
I'm going to get a card grinder right here.
No time for it.
You're fucking fingers off my salt.
Why are your fingers on my fucking salt?
Okay?
Take your sunglasses off.
There's so many things wrong with this guy.
There's so many things wrong.
God damn is he making a fuck down.
Why are multiple parts of your body touching the salt before it hits my steak?
Right?
Like, imagine a random person when you're about to eat.
Y'all want any pepper?
Y'all want a game of dice?
Y'all want any peppers?
Some lint.
What else are you going to put?
Just let's not tell you.
What do you think about that?
Bro, it's disgusting.
Do you see the way he has Purel in his back pocket to douse off the fingers real quick?
And then if he does, now I got to eat Purel.
How about you keep your fucking fingers off of my salt?
Dude, imagine you sat down with your steak and your waiter came over, put his fat fucking fingers in the salt and then spread it all over your steak.
That's weird as fuck.
I don't know why it's so normal for him.
Dude, I would go crazy.
Even if you got like a bowl of chicken wings and like picking them out for you, like, here's this one, here's that one.
I'm like, Skittles, man.
I don't want.
You want 20%?
You hold the wing in front of me so my fingers don't get dirty.
Dude, 20%.
Is that crazy?
25%.
I'm scared to see you at a multi-millionaire.
I know.
He's scared of me.
20%.
No, no.
20%.
This is how it works.
20%.
You're me.
You sit right there.
And I want you to just place the wing in front of my face like that and then rotate it like a rotating the pork that they got on the halal trucks.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's swarma.
But just slowly rotate it so that I can bite everything like that.
And then I don't want to say I'm done.
I just want to go like that.
I want to.
It's like a swipe.
I want to swipe.
I think he's running for president.
I think that's the only person.
You and Kim Jong-un are the only two people that can do that shit in this world.
Damn.
Tell me that that's not worth 25%.
You wouldn't tip 25%.
Now your fingers don't smell like Frank's red hot for the next three days.
That honestly, oh, yeah, you get all the money.
Yeah, I'll, yeah.
That's 25%.
They might even get 28% for me for that.
They don't even give that extra 30 cents that Schultz got in his left pocket.
Hold on, what is that?
Well, first of all, this is no, this is too funny.
How much are wings?
10 bucks, right?
I'm like 25%.
That's 250.
Alex is going, I might even drop 280 on it, too.
I might even get my firstborn child after that.
He said 30 more cents.
I might even.
I might even.
If they dip it in ranch for me, I'm giving them everything.
But just imagine you could do it like a pitcher that doesn't like the suggestion from the catcher.
No, no.
Just keep on going.
And if he got the same thing.
He says flats only, you idiot.
Exactly.
Motherfucker went and brought out the leg, the thigh.
Come on, bro.
I want them flats.
How are you pitching that to the waiter that isn't accustomed to it yet?
Hey, bro, could you bro?
Come here real quick.
Stand behind me real quick.
Yeah, yeah.
Put your arms around me real quick.
Yo, your arms are my arms.
And he's like, what?
Just trust me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Turn up that music in the background.
What music in the background?
Sinatra starts playing.
Yeah, perfect.
She's petting a cat.
Son, that is the restaurant that we got to open where they feed you the chicken.
They feed you the chicken tenant.
Not chicken.
Wings.
They feed you the wings, eating it right in front of you.
Swipe to the side if you don't like it.
If you're done, swipe to the side.
And here's the tricky part: they got to help you get the meat in between the bones and the flesh.
That's the hard part because that one, that's more hands-on.
And you know what they got to do?
They got to use their pointer finger to poke the meat back in your direction.
You got another waiter holding and another guy.
One more comes in.
Joust guy.
He's a joust guy.
He uses one pointer finger, okay?
And he pokes the meat and then you just bite it off like a shrimp.
So that's, I mean, bro, that's perfect.
You got enough listeners.
Next time you're at a wing spot, there might be somebody to be like, yo, you told me to, and then they just get behind you and you're like, perfect.
That's it with a bib.
That's it.
Like the broil.
Tell me that's not worth 28%, 30% minimum.
I mean, because, look, you do that for 10 tables.
You make five bucks a table.
That's, I mean, that's like great money, but that's all $50.
But that's enough to pay for the fucking L-train.
All right.
You good?
$50, bro.
Think about that.
$50?
All you got to do is hold chicken wangs.
Bro, we.
It's better than a heart on my latte.
I'll tell you that much.
Without a doubt.
Bro, sometimes we call Asians, Asian chicks, chicken wangs.
Oh, my God.
Right?
Because this old Asian chick that we Airbnb'd said chicken wang.
We were asking for things to eat.
And she was like, she was like, she was like, bro, Korean fried chicken is the best thing ever.
Son, everything black people do, Koreans do it better.
It is unbelievable.
The fried chicken, breakdancing, all the things that you traditionally know as black.
Like, I don't know why black people worry about white cultural appropriation when Koreans are really the ones that are killing y'all.
So the, it's true, right?
Okay, so.
Small, though.
We don't, we're not threatened.
You're not threatened.
White people, we small.
Yeah, but yeah, still.
We're mighty.
Yeah.
Yeah, bro.
We'll hit you with a groan and fuck your day.
Yeah, I got too much confidence.
So this lady was like, she was suggesting food.
She was like, oh, there's some Mexican, there's some blah, blah, blah.
And there's also a place that sells chicken wang.
So we've been saying chicken wang from that for like the last like months about this, right?
We're in LA, downtown LA, and there's this Korean rap group that's going up.
And there's this line of chicks going to see the Korean rap group.
And these girls had body.
There was some real thick and wang.
There were some thick and wang.
So many love ups of that joke.
Thick and wang.
Thick and wang, bro.
And some thick and tenders, bro.
There was a couple of thick and tenders.
She was out front of the line, just geeking, just be like, son.
I was like, Alex, feed me one of them chicken wangs.
Gladly.
Jesus Christ.
Well, that's what you got to do to get that 25% right there.
You heard it here live.
Live in full effect.
Yo, Trev, tell us where we can find you.
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Anything else that.
Yeah, man, I'm currently going around the country.
Got Boston coming up in December.
I'm going to be at the House of Comedy in Phoenix in November, the weekend before Thanksgiving.
December 19th to 21st is Boston.
And then January, I'm going to be in Rochester out here.
So I might have to swing by Buffalo, catch a Metallica concert while I'm out.
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TikTok.
Have you used TikTok?
Do you use TikTok?
So I pretty much just upload a lot of my old stuff on there, like Instagram clips that I already put.
And I fucked around and now that's one of my biggest platforms.
I got a mill on there and I don't know what the fuck to do with this audience.
So like, I don't know if that contributes to ticket sales because motherfuckers on there are like 12 years old.
Yeah.
So I think I'm for it because if you, I mean, a lot of people in this world, like you and I, got this whole like, we got so much shit out there already.
Yep.
If you could just, you know, throw some shit out there yard.
I'm not making content for TikTok per se.
You're just repurposing, which is great because this is already shot, edited stuff that I already approved.
And I mean, there's such shitty content on there already that if there's some well-shot and good comedy.
People are in it.
Yeah, like, what is this genius stuff?
You know, so I was able to grow on there really quick, just posting old shit because it might have been an audience that didn't see my Instagram or YouTube before that.
Right.
I mean, are you on there?
What are your thoughts?
We're dabbling.
I think it is a brilliant platform, man.
Like, it solved the one problem with Instagram, and that is people don't watch Instagram with their sound.
The sound.
That's the biggest thing I like about TikTok.
You go there to watch videos.
But listen too.
Yeah.
It's not just watch.
You are listening to that shit.
And that's the thing that Instagram faces is.
People are on Instagram just to see what the fuck their friends are doing, you know, on Saturday at noon.
But it's also like, here's a video I care a lot about.
And they're like, you like it.
Yeah.
You know, subtitles?
Well, fucking good luck.
I might not have my phones in.
Also, Instagram, the feed is drowned out by pictures.
Everything on TikTok is content.
And that is something that is a huge difference, right?
You don't post just a picture with you and your dog, a picture of you and your boys, a picture of you on stage.
You don't post it on TikTok.
Every piece of TikTok content.
Video content.
But it is like with the purpose to entertain.
Yes.
Not to flex.
Yes.
I'm entertaining.
Now, it's sometimes dumb girls just lip-syncing to a song or like some idiot model guy who's like, look at my abs.
But he's at least trying or she's at least trying to create content out of it.
Well, that was the great thing about buying is use the same thing.
You go there.
Oh, 100%.
You go there to watch with the intent to enjoy content.
Yes.
Whereas Instagram is periodically.
Somebody tags you and, oh, you got to check this out.
Okay, I'll watch this video.
But like TikTok, you're like, I'm going to be entertained.
It's so easy to just scroll and spend time and time and time.
Hours on it.
It is.
Yeah, it's interesting.
So how did you build up?
You just had some videos go.
You had like a strategy.
I really kind of just saw what people were already posting on there.
And you can do some trend stuff so you can hop on trends.
And it's kind of like, you know, at midnight, they'll throw out like there's a trend that'll be going on.
And then you put your rendition on it.
You know, so I'm making something with my take, which is kind of cool.
But you were using old stuff, though.
Both.
So I uploaded a bunch of old stuff.
That got a little bit of traction because people are like, oh, I've seen this guy before.
That's so-and-so, whatever.
So I built like, you know, a couple of, maybe like 50K on that.
And then I did a couple of trend type things.
And then I just kind of like, what's great about it is there's also not a lot of expectations for like really, really good content on there.
So if I throw something up there and it's a bomb, like it's trash.
They swipe right through.
Yeah, exactly.
It's not like on Instagram, somebody's like, I want that minute of my life bag.
Nobody's, they just scroll.
So, you know, you can try shit.
I'll delete it if it's, you know, whatever.
But for the most part, I, I leaned to the trends.
I made some random shit that I wrote down in my notes for a video concept that maybe wasn't flushed out or I needed too many people for it.
But they don't expect high quality.
You can play seven different characters in that bitch.
You could be Tyler Perry in that motherfucking app and nobody's going to be like, is that the same actor?
So nobody has expectations.
And then when you give them the TikTok shit and well-produced shit, like they just flock to it, you know?
Right.
Yeah.
So it's, I think exactly what you said.
People go on there to be entertained and there's not a high standard.
So if you're funny as fuck.
You can excel.
It's very fast.
But certain things work, certain things don't work.
It's just fascinating.
You got to catch them quick.
And that's the music component, right?
Exactly.
Our first stimulus is auditory.
So if I've swiped to something and then the song that comes on is the catchiest part of that song, I'm going to give it a second.
Now I'm invested in the content.
It'll let me a good buildup, but in this day and age, I'm like, bro, if I don't hear a producer tag within three seconds, I don't want it.
So I think it trains you to kind of just be quick with it.
But also, I mean, the weirdest part is people trying to figure out what to do with that audience.
Because people got millions of fans on there, but it's like now, now what?
I've had people come up to you on stream and be like, I love your TikTok.
And I'm like, what the fuck?
It's almost, I feel disrespected in a sense.
But in a sense, it's like, that's a whole new platform that saw me that might not have seen me before.
Hold a demo of people.
Exactly.
So, in a sense, you know, if I mean, I was going to try to do this for like upcoming tours I had, but just use that app somehow to be like, what's up?
I'm a stand-up comic.
These are the dates I'm going to.
And then try to make it fit that demo somehow, which I don't know how the fuck I do that.
You know, just put kids bop in the background or some shit.
Just see if that helps with tickets.
Like, I also want, I kind of want to put out before I announce on any other social media, be like, I'm going to be in New Haven tonight.
And how many tickets sell just based off TikTok?
That's smart.
Just to see if I get 13 sales off just posting on there, does it help?
Yeah.
You know, because it's got two features.
You post your video and then you can go live, which I don't know what that does.
Yeah.
So maybe you go live and be like, what's up, guys?
I want to announce my tour dates.
It's 18 and up.
I just want to see if that has an influence because now I got this audience and I just don't know what to do with it.
So it's great that I can just dish my content on there.
But like, where's the utilization on it?
I think that it's a long play.
Yeah.
I remember when I first started getting into Chris Rock, I was probably 12 years old, 11 years old.
I don't know.
I was pretty young, dude.
But he groomed me into like what type of stand-up I like and then the type of stand-up I turned into being in a lot of ways.
Right.
So I think that you look at that TikTok audience, not in terms of selling tickets, but in terms of this is the next generation of fans that are going to grow into me.
Yeah.
100%.
So it's acquisition and it's like setting a standard of your type of comedy and your content.
And then when they're old enough or they go to school, then they go, oh my God, I'm on the board for the school events.
Yeah.
That's how all my colleges came through this year.
People are like, yo, you know what?
Because they loved you in high school.
They finally go to college.
They get a little flat.
It's just awareness at this point.
That's what happened with Guy Code with me.
And it was like, okay, I see how that's going.
I think my demo's gotten a little bit older now.
Though YouTube changes things, like YouTube can broaden in a weird way from old and young.
But yeah, I think there's something there to it.
One concern is someone told me that the Chinese government owns.
I saw something about that.
And two things about that, that they're using it as a profiling strategy for the parents, not the kids.
Huh.
So like when kids will post like super liberal stuff, they'll be like, okay, those are Democratic parents.
When the kids will post like super Trump stuff, they'll be like, oh, those are the Republican parents.
I mean, and then they use that data to like target them and, you know, push ads to like those regions, et cetera.
I mean, we're already all exposed.
Like the motherfuckers that put the little dot over their laptop screen.
I'm like, you're not doing shit, bro.
You think you're stopping CIA?
I mean, all of our shit's already out there.
So at this point, I mean, I heard that too, which is insane to me.
But like out of all the apps you're going to use, you know?
I mean, that's what Facebook was, right?
Right.
Facebook was this thing, came up, social network, the whole world got on it.
And then all of a sudden, the whole world was in some way controlled by one guy in California.
Yeah.
I mean, the biggest thing about any social media platform, comedy is comedy, funny is funny.
It's just finding out how to apply it to like certain shit will pop off on Twitter for me that won't pop up on Facebook because Twitter's more current.
And then had I posted that video on Facebook three weeks later, when they're catching wave about it, then it hits.
So you just alter all your shit.
You know, like for every video I post, I make sure it starts on my face because I know that people are going to be like, wait, is that the, you know, as much as I love is a cinematic shot of the fucking the sun rising with a slow.
Nobody's got time for that.
So like there's like little things that like, I don't make content for TikTok, but I might edit something to be like a specific way.
Yeah, I might be like, okay, I already got this video.
Let me chop up the quick shit up front.
Yeah.
Get the first few beats out.
Yeah.
And then it can, you know, drag on.
Just because people scroll like this, bro.
Just watch a random person scroll.
It's so quick.
If you don't catch them like that.
You've got to get them quick.
Whereas like YouTube, it's okay.
I'm going to hang out for a second.
Yeah, yeah.
But you're great at that.
You put that meat of like whatever the fuck, you know, like dumbest audience member ever.
Put that meat part, then the title, then you're in.
Yeah.
Instead of being like, wait till four minutes in, you won't believe it, bro.
I'm saying a fucking BuzzFeed article.
All right.
You won't believe what happens next.
You give them that teaser, but you get it.
You understand the internet.
And so many people will be like, have you seen this guy?
You know this guy.
So like, you're ahead of that.
So you, I mean, you get the internet.
And if there's a platform out there that everybody's going to, I mean, try some shit.
Were you posting stand-up clips on TikTok?
We posted a few.
Another thing I was concerned about is someone told me that in the user agreement, TikTok owns everything that you give them.
Like the IP or something like that.
So I'm a little concerned about putting stand-up there because what if I want to use that stand-up in a special or something like that randomly?
And they're like, eh.
Really?
That's what someone told me.
So I don't know.
And I doubt that they're going to go out and do cease and desist shit.
Could you imagine if some like 15-year-old be like, Mr. Schultz?
Yeah.
I'm going to be read here.
God, that's fucking nuts.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, we all fly through the terms and conditioning.
They could literally own all of my future children.
I've never read the terms and conditions or a contract.
You just sign here.
Oh, contracts.
I'd rather get fucked over by a contract than read a contract.
100%.
Quartermil or five minutes of my time.
Well, you already know.
Real talk.
Like, I get why people get screwed out of this.
Yes, and they use big-ass words and all this shit.
I'm just illegalese, bro.
And sometimes they break the page up in half like a Bible, and you're just like, yeah, the font just makes me want to go to prison.
It's not good.
It's just fuck, man.
Yeah, it's bad.
It is bad.
But hey, man, I love what you're doing, bro.
I wish you were in New York.
I really do wish you were in New York, man.
I wish you were.
That's why I come out here a lot more, though.
You should, man.
Yeah, I mean, I guess I hope, you know, I'm sure you're going to be getting a lot of opportunities and deals and these things in the near future.
And I hope that you hope that you keep doing what you're doing.
You can do them alongside, grab the money.
Yeah.
But do not transfer your shit too many ones for a certain reason.
That's your power.
That's your leverage.
Don't bring that over to anywhere.
Right.
You know, Spotify asked for it, Sirius XM asked for it.
Comedy.
So don't bring, I continue doing this shit and I'll do that stuff with you because I think in the next like maybe five years, but even less, when the business organizes itself a little bit more, when everybody's fully streaming, then you make that purchase or actually you get purchased.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Like you have 10, 15 million people and you say, hey, the only place I can be seen now is on Disney Plus subscribe.
And then you charge Disney Plus 250 million for everything that you do.
Yeah.
Instead of charging Comedy Central a million.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Like if as long as you could eat, as long as everything's good, now's the time to own everything.
Yeah.
And also like the people follow you for a certain reason.
So build up that audience and don't like jump ship and be like, well, peace.
I'm going in fucking sequel movies.
People get so excited at the idea because you're a little bit younger.
How old are you?
26.
So you're 26.
So you're at the end of the generation that actually had traditional media.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, I'm maybe at the end of the generation that didn't.
I'm 36.
Yeah, yeah.
Right.
So like I got social media in college.
So I was like, huh, you grew up with social media, right?
I should have been around.
So it's like, I think what's happening now is you see this complete transition in media, but we still go.
I see guys in my generation all the time that they validate themselves with like these antiquated methods.
Like they're like, I need to do late night.
Do you?
I need to have a sitcom.
Do you?
I need it.
Your videos, my videos get more views than any sitcom on TV now.
Nuts.
So why the fuck sacrifices?
Yeah.
And like you have all that connectivity.
It's on my channel.
That's it.
You own it.
It's yours.
Your video has a million views.
They're like, where do I go through this?
Not wait till the credits.
Who is that guy that played this actor?
Oh, it's Andrew Schultz.
This is literally like, this video has this many views.
Here's subscribe.
Now I'm part of this guy's world.
It's like, it's chronic crazy.
It's a threat to, you know, all that stuff.
And I'm sure they're asking you, right?
Yeah.
And so it's just like, don't, don't give that up.
No, no, no, no.
It's just not worth it.
And I see guys give it up.
Yeah.
I mean, if I get some shit, I'll hit you up and be like, yo, is this worth the bag?
No.
It's not.
Not for five years.
Because I promise you, and this is the way I see media, and this is why I want us all to really connect, is like if you were in New York, I would.
be trying my hardest to have all of us partner up into this thing.
And maybe we can do a cross-coast, but it's different.
You know, we have, we have some things cooking we can't exactly talk about yet, but we'll get there.
But like, but I would want us all to create, you know, just create this like conglomerate because there's so much media influence that can happen.
Like I've seen like the LA YouTuber guys, they did it.
They all kind of know each other, hang out with each other, cross-pollinate, and like build each other up.
It's really amazing the influence they had.
Like we were just talking about the KSI Logan Paul thing.
They had a major boxing match.
Two guys that don't even really box, but they don't box at the Staples Center.
Most heavyweight boxers cannot fill out the Staples Center.
The Staples Center is insane.
Like that was even an option.
Like what do you want to do is fight at?
I'd be like, I don't know, Park or something.
Where'd Kimbo Slice do it?
Yeah, right.
Backyard in Florida, let's do it.
But like, that's the power center.
That's the staple center.
So that's the power of new media, right?
And as long as we harness that and we own everything, we are the new version of newspapers.
Yeah.
You know, like when Hamilton.
I saw people tweeting about it, like it was a heavyweight UFC fight.
Son.
They had real son.
They had real boxers boxing undercard.
Yeah.
Like it was Joe Saunders.
They literally made a URC event and that's based off internet influence.
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Fuck.
So that's it.
So it's like, this is the way media operates now.
This is the way we got to control it.
And then what's going to happen is once the streaming wars end, you're going to have these different companies, you know, Netflix, Disney, all these types of places, HBO, The Warner, all that kind of stuff.
They're all going to be settled.
We're going to know who their audiences are.
And then we're going to go, hey, now that all TV has shifted into streaming, there's no real issue here.
Everybody just watches streaming stuff.
We have our different platforms, Apple Plus, et cetera.
Then you get the Howard Stern deal.
Yeah.
Then you get the 500 million.
Then you get the 250 million.
And you're actually in a place where people can watch.
You go to Comedy Central now, nobody's watching it.
But if you go to Apple Plus, everybody already got Apple Plus.
Yeah.
You see what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We just got to see it.
We just got to.
We just wait to see where all the streams end up.
Yeah.
So it's like, and even doing, like, I told my agents, I was like, we're not doing any shows now.
We're not doing anything scripted.
We're not like, we'll do little one-offs on them.
I'll do a movie if they give it to me.
Yeah.
But like creating something in this environment is worthless because nothing can succeed.
Everybody's too fractured.
Everybody's in a million different places.
Eventually, we're going to be, dude, eventually there's going to be one service that packages all the streaming services and we're back at cable.
Yeah.
Right?
Oh, it's going to come full loop.
So it's going to go.
And then once it's full loop, the people with the most personal influence and biggest followings have all the leverage.
Yeah.
We make them bid on.
They're not being like, who's got the best jawline?
They're like, this motherfucker got 10 million.
You know what I'm saying?
Who'll be mocking the Zoomies employees the best?
Yeah, you're right.
Whatever we need, Bill, right there, yeah.
So it's like the holdout for that.
Take the money on the side.
Just don't leave.
Yeah.
Don't leave any of that.
Right.
Because the real money.
It really is.
Every stream in the platform is just sitting there with guns at each other.
I mean, even Netflix, like when they first started, they didn't know they'd be as big as they are.
I mean, they probably had intentions, but nobody knows who's going to be the next big thing.
You know what it is?
Netflix was the restaurant.
You know, when they're like small towns that have one restaurant?
Yeah.
And it's like, the food ain't amazing, but it's packed because that's the only fucking restaurant.
Yeah.
So if you want to eat out, you got to eat there.
Right.
Now, few more restaurants done moved in the neighborhood.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right?
So now the level of food got to step up.
And I think the next few years are going to decide what that looks like.
And we just keep stacking, keep stacking.
You don't worry though.
Yeah, because it's not like we're in a spot where, yeah.
We're making money.
Everything's good.
You know, you're good.
Yeah.
Right?
You don't, you don't, you don't need food or anything.
Like, life is fine.
Yeah.
And then once all those things are settled and they need the content creators with actual influence because we will become the next quote-unquote movie stars.
Yeah.
I mean, the only reason movie stars get paid money is because they can get people to go watch the movie.
Well, we'll be the only people that can get people to go to things.
Yeah.
It'll be radio DJs because everybody loves them and wake up every morning or podcast guys, et cetera.
And then it'll be the YouTube creators.
Yeah.
Shit.
Three to five years.
I'd say so, yeah.
I mean, it's a weird world, but it's going to settle out in a little, yeah, like you said, three to five years.
And then it'll be like very clear.
And then it'll be like, oh, I should have seen that coming.
Or like, yep, I predicted that shit.
And then we can sell the script and shit because now people will know where the fuck to go for content.
And it's not obscene to be like, download these seven apps and find me here.
And then it's all right.
Exactly.
Even Apple TV got all these shows out with the fucking Aquaman.
And it's like, but do I want to go there?
Like Amazon Prime, like, bro, I go to Amazon to buy shit together.
Exactly.
Eventually it's going to be in one thing.
And you just type the name of it.
And you'll be like, oh, yeah, that's easy.
That's where we.
Yeah, yeah.
Now we just build.
Now we're farming.
Exactly.
We're just sowing the seeds.
Exactly.
Each platform is like a different city.
It's like, okay, I got TikTok.
I got people in DC, Instagram, I got people in fucking Arizona.
It's just like, you're just building up that repertoire.
Yeah, and you're killing it.
And you got the youth that's going to grow into it.
So it's like you're going to teach them what type of comedy they like.
You're going to teach them what type of comedy they're into.
And I think that's why it's so important because you have stand-up chops.
I mean, you open them for me.
I thought you were fucking great.
Thanks, man.
When we were in Oxnard, it was great.
And I think it's important that you start setting a tone, especially with like the younger folks.
Like, this is what stand-up looks like.
This is what my YouTube content looks like.
This is what my Twitter stuff looks like.
This is what stand-up is for me.
And then you create that expectation for the show.
And then they're like, oh, hell yeah, I saw those bits.
And this is what I'm coming for.
Right.
It does.
That way they come out to the show knowing what to expect.
Instead of waiting for you to go, you know, say something about White Claw or say something.
Yeah, I got you.
And I'm telling you, something that's happened with me is like, I put out a lot of crowd work, so they created this expectation of crowd work.
Before the crowd work, I was just being like flagrant with the jokes.
So they came out for the flagrancy.
Do you have to say anything to be like, listen, don't yell shit out.
But if you do, you might make it on the channel.
No, or people smart enough to be like, we get it.
I see people like wearing shit sometimes to like, they look to be like, I think they're just trying to make it into a video.
And I'll avoid them usually.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, there was this albino guy in the front row.
I had to fucking talk to him, but like, he's not wearing that.
You know what I mean?
He just, you know what I mean?
He didn't leave the house that day for fucking albino, right?
Like that was nuts.
Black Nigerian albino front row.
It was insane, right?
You get on stage and be like, all right.
Dog, I didn't even notice him at first because he looked like a regular white guy.
But that's something obviously we got to put out, but it's something I've been cognizant of, which is like, you know, it's constantly reminding, like, the flagrancy is what we're doing.
This is what we're fighting back against.
This is the type of comedy that's so rare out there in the world.
That's the type of comedy that I love to do.
And that's what you're going to see when you come out to the tour.
And then there's going to be these moments, obviously, that might happen, et cetera.
And I think you have to curate that for the stand-up part.
Yeah, I feel that for sure.
Because you body all these videos.
But at the end of the day, you're a stand-up.
Yeah, exactly.
Before all of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So like all of that.
Exactly.
So all these people got to know.
Right.
Even if you're not going to be able to do that.
And to have some value.
Because maybe somebody watching my stand-up because my stand-up is very different from the videos.
And be like, you know, I like his videos, but stand up that taste is like, it's a little bit edgier.
It's not a touch.
But they know that before going to a show.
Now the people at the shows are the people that are like, we saw this clip.
This is what we want.
Do that type stuff.
100%.
I think early 2020, I'm going to shoot something, cut what you did, and just dice it up.
Yes.
And just be like, and then I don't know if it's weekly or bi-weekly, whatever, put out a stand-up clip, but definitely get the awareness.
And if you need any help, we'll help you, man.
Yeah.
More than happy to help you guys.
100%.
But yeah, dude, it will be, I think you'll find it.
I think you'll find it's just going to be next level.
Yeah, that's definitely the plan.
And I mean, I got bits.
We even talked about this earlier.
It's like, you still do them.
You're like, nah, it's, I need to.
And your bits actually are similar in terms of the way you punch shit.
Yeah.
Because like, I think what really works when you're mocking is that you're like understated about your lines.
You're not going like, here is the line.
It's almost sometimes throwaway.
Pick what you want.
It's not like heavy emphasis on it.
Yeah.
So it seems really authentic.
And even though you're making fun of a character.
And I think that you act that way in your stand-up as well.
Yeah.
Like with your lines.
Exactly.
So I think they will find connectivity if you show it to them.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, I'm starting to find that too, where people are picking out lines from that.
Or even like you just say something, you laughed, and you're like, I wasn't.
Okay, yeah, that guy is, that's funny.
You know, I'm just talking the way I would talk.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
That's good shit, man.
I'm so proud of you, man.
It's awesome to see what you're doing.
You're just fucking murdering it.
Go check them out.
Everybody, again, it's give them your socials.
Just Trevor Wallace on Instagram and fuck me on TikTok.
Trevor Wallace.
YouTube.
Yeah, YouTube.
I got a bunch of stuff on that.
I mean, I got so many videos out there.
Just type in Trevor Wallace.
And then for tickets for any tour, there's TrevorWallsComedy.com.