Kaz returns to Flagrant, expressing gratitude for fan support during his family's recent tragedies, including the loss of his father and daughter. He proposes an "asshole" support group for men to process grief without maintaining a facade. The discussion critiques Kevin Hart's controversy with Lil Nas X, arguing that social media outrage ignores Hart's recovery from a broken back, contrasting it with LeBron James' honesty. Kaz also highlights NFL player Ryan Russell's career loss after coming out as bisexual, comparing it to Jason Collins, before Akash promotes the Patreon for the full episode. Ultimately, the segment underscores the need for authentic male vulnerability amidst modern cancel culture. [Automatically generated summary]
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Kaz Returns to the Building00:01:54
What's up, everybody?
And welcome to another Patreon episode of Flagrant 2 No Easy Buckets Analysis by Assholes Watercooler Commentary for your sports needs.
I'm not even here yet.
What you know about that?
I'm not even here yet.
That's right.
This interview is started before me.
I'm in the past and in the future in the same fucking time.
Okay.
Right now, I'm about to slide it off to Akash and Real Life Cass.
That's right.
We got the boy Kaz back in the building.
Good to be back.
That's him patting on the table, but I'm not with them yet.
I'm alone.
They're together.
They're going to talk about all this heart-wrenching stuff.
All right.
And once they get all that gay shit out the way, your boy's going to slide in for some flagrancy.
All right.
But no, in all seriousness, I just got out the plane.
And so they're going to start the podcast.
I'll be back in like 20 minutes, but we just wanted to do a little intro.
I'll see y'all guys soon.
Enjoy and, you know, put some good vibes up for Kaz being back, finally pulling up.
You know, obviously he's done all of his other media obligations first, but it's nice that you're the last one on his list to finally come back to.
So we like what kind of priority we are for you guys.
Okay.
And to the Savvis.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to another episode of Flagrant 2 No Easy Buckets Patreon Edition Water Cooler Commentary for Your Sports Needs.
I'm Akash Singh doing the intro because Andrew is taking a red eye flight from LA that is delayed.
Then right after this, he's flying to Russia.
But I have a very special introduction to make.
It's been a long time since our brother has been with us.
So if you guys clap at home, can just clap as we give it up for real life Kaz back in the building.
Oh, I'll clap for myself.
It's just me and Alex.
It's good to have our brother back, dude.
Oh, and it's good to be here when Andrew's late.
Grateful for Real Heartbreak00:07:23
It's so, it's so poetic.
I'm like, ah, of all the times to come back, this is, it couldn't have been any sweeter.
So we waited as long as we could, Andrew.
I didn't want to do this without you guys all here because, you know, obviously I've been gone for a while for, you know, reasons that I've spoken at length about on, you know, any type of social media.
Other platforms.
Yeah.
Well, you know, just Instagram or whatever.
But, you know, before I guess we get into any type of flagrancy, man, I just want to say from the bottom of my heart, man, it's been the literal hardest thing I've ever had to go through my entire life.
And I'm still kind of figuring it out.
But like, I swear to God, man, like, if it wasn't for this show and you guys and the support, like when I talk about support, dude, like, I'm talking literal for there was a good four or five days period where I was literally getting thousands upon thousands of messages from DMs, Instagram comments, like people hit me on LinkedIn, like Facebook, like everywhere, dog.
Like it was, you know, it was some of the most inspiring and just like overwhelming like groundswell of support I've ever felt in my life, man.
And I really needed it because it was really, it's been really tough.
It's still going to be pretty tough.
But man, I love you guys, especially you and Andrew and Alex, man.
You guys really held me down throughout this entire thing.
And, you know, it's wild because like you never really know when you start the show.
Like when we first started this thing, like I didn't really know.
I don't think any of us kind of really knew what it was going to turn into, but like to see, you know, and just kind of feel, you know, all the love that you guys have shown and to myself and to Jasmine and, you know, to my entire family, man.
Like, I don't even think I'd be functioning right now if it wasn't for you guys.
Cause, you know, every time I even had a negative thought, I just look at my phone and just be like another hundred people saying like, yo, we love you.
We fuck with you.
Can't wait for you to come back.
Prays to the wife.
He prays to you.
And I just want to say just from the bottom of my heart, thank you guys so much, man.
We love you, man.
Shouts to the Army.
The Army provides.
They really fucking provided, man.
They fucking came through, dude.
Like, it's, uh, I.
It's, it's, it's unexplainable, man.
Like, on top of that, like, just people that I didn't even know fucked with me like that reached out to me.
Like, like, fucking Puffy reached out to me.
I'll talk about like a fucking lot.
Like, the first, like, three days, it was like a laundry list of just like.
Puffy the most famous person.
Who else reached out to us?
Hassan Minaj said some nice things, push a T. You know, obviously, you know, Van from TMZ, Charlemagne.
Yeah.
My gosh, just, I lost count after a while.
Just a bunch of.
A lot of name drops.
I asked them.
I want to know.
A lot of day drops.
I mean, it was crazy, though, because it's like, you know, it's, you just, you never know like how many people like you're kind of like affecting.
And the things that like really hit home the hardest, like when I was going through this whole thing was like so many people were just like, you know, I've been through this too.
Like me and my family have gone through this.
Brian reached out who's super awesome.
And, you know, I still got to kick it with him once time slows down and everything.
And so many people who reached out and was like, you know, just their own kind of testimonies of their situation when it comes to having children, building families and stuff like that.
In addition to just, you know, people being like, yo, you guys helped me get through some of the worst times of my life, you know, like just listening to you guys just be yourselves and be on the podcast.
So like it hurt them to know that I was going through something so painful with Jasmine.
And, you know, it's something that I'll never forget.
And, you know, I'll forever indebted to you guys, to Alex, to Eden, who's not here, Andrew, who's late for the first time.
And, you know, it's really helped me get back on my feet.
It's really helped me take a lot of life inventory and just kind of seeing like, you know, what's important in life and like the effect you have on people and just being able to just being so fucking grateful to do this shit.
You know what I mean?
Like just kind of talk shit with your friends twice a week and that effect that you kind of have on other people's lives.
And when you're going through it, them giving that love right back to you.
So thank you guys, man.
It's good to be back.
I've been feeding to come back for a while because this is like my last bit of normalcy that I could kind of really get back into.
So I'm excited, man.
I'm happy to be back, bro.
Yo, that's, I think I was, I've been telling everybody this year just seems crazy.
Everybody around me seems to be going through something, whatever.
And then Brian actually was like, man, I think that's just life.
Yeah.
And that is a fucking sobering reality.
And one idea I had that we can try to carry forward maybe is maybe like a, I don't know if we want to call it a grieving group because I know Brian goes to these.
He's been going to one.
Maybe like an asshole one would be cool.
I would let you obviously teach it.
Yeah.
That was my singing of it.
Just like help people get through some shit.
The way everybody helps us get through things.
Maybe we could pay that forward.
Absolutely, man.
Like we spoke about this like offline.
And you're just like, you know, it's, it's crazy that, you know, with with we think that, oh man, this year's just been crazy.
It's like, nah, man, you get older.
You get to learn more people.
Yeah.
Like this is life.
This is life, dog.
Like, you don't.
And it kind of makes me feel crazy because, you know, when you're growing up, you just feel, I feel just so grateful that I've had to go this long without like some like real deal fucking heartbreak.
Yeah.
And like in the past like three years, like father passes away, mentor combat jack passes away.
I lose my daughter like consecutively.
You know what I'm saying?
And it's just like, you know, then, you know, one of my best friends, Cam from Duce Palooza, he loses his daughter.
And like, my boy Chris loses his father.
And just every single person that I know that you, you know, everybody close to me has had something happen to him.
And it's not just like, oh, it's just a crazy year.
It's like, nah, bro, like, we're growing up.
And I was like, yo, 2019, crazy.
And then you get older.
And if you had a, you know, normal, relatively normal childhood, you probably didn't experience it that much.
But like, yo.
It's like, shit, Trump's president.
I swear to God here, bro.
I was like, this is the universe.
It's crazy.
Trump is president.
Everyone's dying.
I'm trying to blame it on that motherfucker.
It's like, yeah, this is motherfucking Trump ever since he got here.
Shit's been a while.
It's like, nah, bro, that's just life.
Like, that shit is just going to happen to you.
And you're not immune to it.
You can't protect yourself from it.
Like, life is going to fucking happen to you.
And you got to learn how to deal with it.
And you got to become either mentally tough or physically tough and just find ways to deal.
Because, you know, a lot of times we, you know, it's no secret.
Like, we men here, man.
Like, and a lot of times, like, the people, people are leaning on us to be like the pillars of strength and all this type of shit.
So it's like, you know, it's good.
Navigating Black Twitter Criticism00:09:06
And, you know, about the support group, it's good to just kind of like have something where we could all just kind of talk to each other and, you know, kind of give that type of space and love that we kind of need because, you know, it'll balance it out.
It'll balance it out because we got to be men at the end of the day and just kind of put on the put on the happy face.
And I don't know what the iteration will be.
Maybe it'll be a Discord group.
Maybe it'll be meetups in New York or whatever.
But yeah, we should, we'll try to think of something just so to pay back the love.
We appreciate y'all so much.
Absolutely, bro.
But it's been tight.
It's been tight, man.
So, you know, shout out to the thousands and thousands of assholes that have spammed my DMs.
And I really appreciate each and every one of you, the Discord, everybody.
So thank you guys.
It's good to be back.
Let's get into some shit, man.
I know, man.
I know.
So you've been going through a lot.
So you probably had a lot of flagrant thoughts.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, boy.
I've had an extreme flavor.
I had a great flagrant thought on the way here.
If it's something about fucking Zeke, I swear to God.
It's not Zeke.
But I do want to get into Zeke in a little bit.
I was watching, did you watch Uninterrupted the Shop last night?
Anybody?
I heard about Kevin Hart and Lil Nas X. Boom, right?
So there's Twitter just fucking stampeding on Kevin Hart's already broken back.
Let me.
She is too much.
Yo, can we get into it?
Let me just say, right?
Like, you know, I don't think homophobia is cool at all.
I got a ton of games.
It's funny.
I mean, it's not cool, but it's not cool, but you don't take it seriously.
There's humor in it.
And the cool thing about Lil Nas X is he finds the humor in it, too.
Oh, bro.
He had one tweet that said, like, one of those, like, look how far I've come to this.
And it was like, you know, a year ago, I was broke.
I was sleeping on my sister's floor.
I couldn't afford to pay for my own food.
Now I have the number one song in the country and I'm gay.
It was so fucking funny, dude.
And that was hilarious, right?
But like with that, it's like, okay, so I don't think homophobia is cool at all.
But the one thing I don't like more than homophobia is people that are just ignorant of other people, like why people get to homophobia.
Like instead of just like writing people off and being like, oh man, you know, I guess there was this thing with them in the barbershop.
And, you know, if you haven't seen it on HBO or HBO on Demand, go check it out.
So Lil Nas X, my man Paul Rivera, who was helping host the show, was asking Lil Nas X, like, you know, why did you choose now to come out?
And Kevin Hart, you know, who's, you know, the timing of this shit is kind of spectacular with everything going on with him and his life and the Dave Chappelle special when he's talking about the dollhouse over the head, if he had a gay son or whatever.
You can tell Kevin Hart's trying to be like, oh, you came out of the gay.
Like, it's cool.
Yeah, that's what he's trying to do.
You can tell he's trying, right?
He's trying to say being gay is okay.
Yes, that's what he's trying to do.
But as you can tell, anybody who's followed this man's career, you can tell that the man is trying to grow from his mistakes.
He already lost out in the fucking Oscars because of shit that he's tweeted and said and that's all this other shit.
And it's not to really absolve him of anything he said.
But my thing is like, yo, if you're supposed to be the super woke warrior, this person is supposed to enlighten people on other people's way of life.
Don't just shit on somebody for seeing what they're trying to do and being like, oh, this homophobic bastard.
This is why, like, I'm seeing people saying like, this is why he got, this is what happens when happens to him with his broken back and shit.
I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?
We can talk about the realest shit that's ever been said by a celebrity and we all dogpiled them at the time.
But when LeBron said after he lost in 2011 to Mavericks, I get to wake up tomorrow and be LeBron James.
Yes.
You have to wake up and be you.
And that sucks for you.
That's the realest fucking thing a celebrity has ever said.
And that's why all of you guys are hating on Kevin Hart on Twitter because you got to be stupid, fucking useless you.
You still got to be you.
And Kevin Hart gets to wake up and be like the most successful living, breathing comedian on earth.
That's when LeBron came to go, became the goat to me right there.
That was the most honest thing he's ever, any athlete has ever said.
I hate that he watched him back.
He had to, but I was, and this is honestly where I think Kevin Hart, when you get that big, this is the problem is you have to, he can't sit there and have a real conversation.
And we've done it.
And we're, I'm one 10 millionth of as famous as Kevin Hart is.
Where you're like, oh, I got to think about what, how I'm going to be portrayed.
And I need to show that I'm not homophobic because people think I'm, blah, blah, blah.
So Kevin Hart doesn't hear Lil Nas X, doesn't get to have a real conversation because he's too famous.
So he has to be like, oh, let me just prove I'm not homophobic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the thing with that is, it's like, with Kevin Hart, he's, he's, what, 30 something years old?
Almost 40?
He's trying to walk 40 something.
He's had most of the thoughts in his head for at least 20 something years, right?
He's already been on record of saying like, okay, it was kind of fucked up the way I was thinking.
You know, I'm trying to learn.
I'm trying to be better.
And nobody, nobody just kind of like goes out of their way to be like, hey, man, this is why this is wrong.
Don't just shit on the dude.
Don't just shit on the motherfucker for the way this guy thought for the past couple of years.
Like for his, for most of his life, really.
Like most people are who they are by the time they're 20, especially by the time they're 30, right?
So you're trying to ask somebody, not saying like, oh, you know, he's homophobic.
So just let him be homophobic.
I'm just saying like, once you get to a certain age.
In that situation, and I don't know if anybody tried it on the show, but the explanation is just, hey, man, here's why I would be scared.
Remember how you used to be at 20 or you've talked about how much you've grown?
There's people much more hateful than you even.
Exactly.
And you know that.
You grew up in North Philly.
So like, you know what it is.
And that's what that's what he said.
He hit him with like, bro, like, you grew up in the black community.
You understand what I had to go through.
You understand what it was like to be a gay black kid with a black neighborhood.
And, you know, and I get him on that.
But at the same time, it's like, fuck.
I have no problem with Lil Nas X coming at him.
I have no problem with what Kevin Hart said.
It's the fucking groundswell of the fucking, and I love, I love black Twitter.
Trust me.
It's done so much for me in my entire life.
But these motherfuckers, yo, give this motherfucker a break.
He's sitting there in a hospital bed right now with a broken fucking back.
Sit in.
You think it's a nerd?
On the camera, I'm getting him on the camera.
I'm just adding a little thing I heard.
So, Charlotte was at this recording.
Yes, right, right.
And apparently, in that room, these guys were fucking wasted.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that was somebody else.
But, like, wasted, wasted.
Like, so we're seeing Kev's real, real true reactions.
Like, he's fighting back, like, trying to be good.
You can tell he's a little bit of a dream.
So that's his real reaction.
He's still like, that's a genuine reaction that he had.
I heard they were fucked up.
Oh, my God.
Keep sitting in, bro.
Where you going?
Don't stay, bro.
Andrew will be here in a minute.
I ain't worried.
But I mean, it's funny to me because it's like, dog, how else is this motherfucker going to learn unless you like at least help the motherfucker?
Like, do you, when I see this shit with the social justice warriors and black Twitter sometimes kind of going in on people for being not willfully ignorant, but like, just, you know, trying, you can tell like he's trying to understand little Nas X. Like, you've had a, you got to pretend black Twitter is amazing because they fuck with you.
I don't.
I don't, man.
Y'all are fucking annoying, bro.
Sit down.
Stop finding outrage and everything.
It's like a fucking beehive just for outrage.
The beehive.
Black Twitter?
No, black Twitter.
I'm not.
No, I'm not going to say they're awful because I'm afraid of them, but they're annoying.
They're annoying.
I don't know.
They're annoying.
They are annoying.
They are.
Oh, my God.
And I feel like I missed so much shit, like, not being on the show.
So, like, between that and the fucking, like, the Kaepernick and Jay-Z shit, too, where it's like, dog.
Wait, can I give a flagrant thought?
Go for it, please.
Please.
Listen, I read this story about this guy.
I remember the Cowboys drafted him in like the fifth round a few years ago.
His name is Ryan Russell.
Okay.
He came out as being bisexual.
Another football player said he's gay or bisexual.
And I think about Jason Collins saying he's gay.
And all these guys don't have a career.
And Lil Nas X has a career, but right now it's just one fucking incredible song.
He's got two Panini.
Panini's doing all right.
I don't even know what a Panini is saying, man.
That shit is a sandwich downstairs.
I ain't never heard no fucking balling about a Panini unless they putting in lunch orders.
I don't know that every single person that says they're gay is gay.
Yo, what's up?
This is Akash.
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