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It ain't easy being a white nationalist or even just a white advocate in virtually all of our native lands.
The effort is high risk, often low reward, and the temptation to quit and return to a fake normalcy is real.
It's a classic fork in the road in which one path represents salary, relative safety, and self-interest, while the other means courage, struggle, and increasingly even jail time.
And many of us end up choosing Easy Street out of fear, frustration, or a sense of futility.
Having gone from normie to fire-breathing anon to enthusiastic networker and activist to now a semi-retired jaded country gentleman, I'm familiar with both paths and sometimes have tried to split the difference.
Obviously, we still do this show and try to help our people however we can, on air or behind the scenes.
But knowing the stakes and the intent of our enemies, I should be doing more, and you probably should too.
There are, however, a handful of die-hard, forward-facing, indefatigable stalwarts out there who are exemplars and take the arrows for us.
And when you know what we know, there's really no excuse for not manning up in some way for our race, whatever it is.
In that spirit, we are honored to welcome back not just one, but two of the boldest and bravest of our race, and also two of our all-time listener favorites.
Australia's Thomas Sewell is in the white room on the road with us again this week, plus a certain Mr. Christopher Cantwell.
So let's see if either of them are at risk of going wobbly on us or if they're readying an adrenaline shot to your spinal column as we speak.
so mr producer hit it
welcome everyone to full house the world's finest show for white fathers aspiring ones and the whole bio fam I am your literally hamstrung host, Coach Finstock.
Yes, my surgically sampled hammy is completely jacked up this week, but we are back with another hour or possibly two of commentary that was recently described by my pal as eminently listenable, unless the host feels obligated to talk about geopolitics for three hours.
We haven't done that too often, so he's just complaining.
Anyway, before we meet the birth panel and get cracking here, big thanks to Cadias, Derek, Knickerbocker, and Charles for their kind support of the show.
If you'd like to be like those philosophers of philanthropy, and you should visit us at givesendgo.com slash fullhouse.
And with that, let's get on with the show, as Cantwell always says.
First up and true to form.
That's not what I say.
All right, sorry, sorry.
All right, all right.
It's my show, not yours, Chris.
Piped out.
Let me get to you.
My bad.
I wing that one.
That's why I screwed it up.
First up and true to form.
He shamefully maligned our special guests just before the show, yet again, by calling them precocious Johnny come lately's who should respect their elders.
You got to stop doing that.
What's up?
Oh, man.
Well, you know, hey, I had a joke for, you know, this ties in two possible things in common with the show today.
In what year were kangaroos discovered?
A leap year.
Oh, very good.
See, kangaroos.
We've got Thomas Sol.
Timely.
Yeah.
Yeah, timely.
And why does February get the leap day?
White months can't leap.
I like the first one better.
White month just because it's like a winter month.
Is that the reference?
It's nigger history month.
Well, thank you.
Yes, it is.
I know.
Somebody said that it has not been a particularly over-the-top Black History Month.
And there was some debate as to whether you and others, Rolo.
Sorry, I don't know if you wanted to be fingered on that one.
And there was a debate as to whether the system is deliberately dialing back the propaganda or whether we have just checked out and tuned a lot of it out.
Sam.
No, I think in the last few years, really, that is the case.
You don't hear a lot about so-called Black History Month.
Yeah, when I put on the streaming thing, it's not called Black Voices.
All right, Rolo's hot on the drops this week.
All right.
Sam, welcome back.
Aside from the joke, I assume you're excited to go, but we should probably get.
Yes.
Yeah.
Good deal, buddy.
And it is late here.
You know, I forget how we did the show with Australia before, but yeah, real night owls here.
I think we did it in the afternoon one time.
Yeah, probably on the afternoon.
Yeah.
For sure.
All right.
Well, we'll make it count.
Next up, our intrepid producer who gets the shakes if we don't record every seven days and is always bugging me about when the next show is.
And he is now, of course, immortally renamed Lothariolo.
What's up, buddy?
Welcome back.
Chris is on the drops tonight.
That's not where it's due.
Yeah.
Yeah, they were timely and clear.
I should have known.
Yeah.
I can't be expected to pay attention to this show.
Okay.
I got magic gathering to play.
Oh, you better not be playing tonight.
Come on.
This is.
You'll never know.
That's true.
Yeah.
No screen sharing.
Anything real quick here at the top, Rolo?
Nothing quick at the top.
Maybe later.
We'll see.
I won't call you Lothariolo too often because it just doesn't roll off the tongue.
But yeah.
Good portfolio.
He's got dates.
He's got dates coming from cross seas.
All right.
Next up, he is not a pornographer, but he did develop a custom paywall option for Full House to deliver our infamous sex show.
So perhaps we should take a more circumspect look.
The one-man content producing machine and the host of the radical agenda, I guess still technically, and surreal politics.
Chris, welcome back, buddy.
It's good to be with you guys.
Thanks for having me on.
This is going to be a good time, I'm sure.
Absolutely.
And when we, you know, it was a little bit of an impulsive decision, but I was like, you know what?
Yeah, let's get Chris on with Tom and add a little bit more energy to our mix here.
Real quick at the top, Chris, we'll have a lot of ears on this show.
Anything new on your end, either, you know, from surreal politics, radical agenda, or in your life?
Nothing that, no, no announcements to be made, really.
I've got some guests coming up.
We've got a couple of guys from Antelope Hill Publishing are going to be on Radical Agenda tomorrow.
Or, well, it won't be tomorrow by the time people listen to this, I guess.
But the next episode of Radical Agenda.
And then on Monday, we've got Augustus Invictus is going to come give us some legal analysis on the Rondo case.
And, you know, everything's more or less status quo here, otherwise.
Very good.
Yeah.
Yeah, don't forget surrealpolitics.com.
If you want to sign up and let us get a little credit, use the reference full house, I believe is the code.
That's always in our show notes.
And yeah, good for you for having Augustus on as the law fair has kicked off more intensely with Thomas Rousseau getting, I guess, detained/slash arrested for the torch march.
Rondo getting released and then arguably unconstitutionally rearrested.
That'll be a good one.
Good for you for getting the jump on Augustus before I could.
All right.
And finally, back just over a year after his last appearance, he is one of the most respected white nationalists on earth, no exaggeration.
If he were a video game character, his ratings would be all the way to the right side for strength, leadership, integrity, and more.
However, we have discovered his Achilles heel, and that is an exceptionally low score for humor.
Tom Sewell, welcome back.
We got you figured out.
Yes, well, I appreciate you having me on once again.
And it's good to finally have someone challenge me and let the world know what my weaknesses are.
And how can I get stronger if people aren't nipping at me, inviting me, and attacking me?
That's right.
Yeah, there's going to be a little bit of a delay.
We're doing so good.
Tom is such a gentleman.
He's on his way home from a long day at the job or a long week at the job site, and he's joining us from the car.
And I joke about the humor thing.
I think you admitted to that before.
Maybe a little bit of stand-up down under, you know, toughen you up a little bit on that front.
Regardless, I'll stop joking and let's start with the heartwarming stuff, if I could, big guy, before moving on to the tougher issues.
How are you and your two ladies doing?
Absolutely brilliant.
So the little miss, as I call her, she's walking, she's blabbering, she's understanding, and she's just doing really well.
She's on the raw milk, she's on the cheese, on the eggs, on the steak, on the blueberries.
She's got to be on the frozen blueberries.
So she's a blueberry monster.
And yeah, she's a perfect hybrid of her mother and father.
She's got blonde hair and kind of greenish eyes, and she's a clever little thing.
So I'm excited.
Can't wait to have another one.
Amen.
I was going to ask, she's getting old enough to the point where we could possibly get greedy here and ask if number two is in the offing or a twinkle in your eye songs.
Not yet, but we're practicing.
Very good.
And, you know, I don't want to put you on the spot, Tom, but did you, I can't remember if I asked this last time you were on.
Did you ever end up doing the bit and tying the knot, or is that still on the to-do list?
Oh, we haven't done the ceremony yet.
That's a very good point.
We're waiting to get land.
Once we've got land, we're going to get married in blood and soil.
Amen.
Yeah, I'm going to ask about the land.
Yeah, go ahead.
We don't want to spend 50 grand on a wedding when we can put 50 grand down on property and then build our own, you know, gazebo and function center and everything we're going to use as a community and invest the money in that, do our own catering.
So we want to do it all ourselves.
There's about six or seven weddings that haven't occurred that are waiting to occur, but it's just all it's all resting on finding the right property.
Amen, brother.
Very smart.
Yeah, we've definitely said before that the hyper-expensive rings and weddings are a massive waste of resources, basically a vanity project for over-materialized women.
Serious question for you.
Since becoming a father, has that changed your calculus, your risk calculation in terms of the movement?
Has it made you more intense?
What's been the impact of having that precious little girl under your roof when it comes to what you do for our people?
Oh, it's only made me stronger.
I wouldn't say anything's changed in terms of my intent.
My wife, she's a Spartan.
She's an absolute Spartan woman.
So she's got no fear.
She knows the circumstances.
She knows the consequences.
And when we go to battle, she tells me, come back on your shield or with it.
You know, there's no cowardice in this family.
So, you know, it's right or die.
We've got no stepping back at all.
Amen, brother.
Last sort of housekeeping thing here, and I think I've probably asked you this, you know, all three previous shows.
Are you out of the woods yet legally, or do you still have one or two of those dust-ups hanging over your head?
Apologies for not knowing the specifics yet.
That's right.
Everything was resolved about six months ago, or just under six months ago.
Everything's resolved.
No more corrections order, no more bail conditions, no more court, no more prison.
It's all done and dusted.
And then about a month ago, we received paperwork.
The Jewish prosecutors are pushing the case to the Supreme Court.
Even though it's all done and dusted, they want an appeal.
So we're going to the Supreme Court March 22nd or 23rd, I think.
And it's going before a panel of Supreme Court judges to see whether making a Jew piss himself in public is deserving of going back to prison.
So they're appealing your acquittal or time served on the dust up out in the bush, or was it Australia days?
Okay, that, wow.
So, yeah.
So, that's over three years ago now.
Obviously, nothing compared to what I'm sure we'll get into with this show.
Nothing compared to what Thomas Rousseau and Rob Rondo and all the other political prisoners are going through right now.
But obviously, they're not happy with time served.
They want more jail time.
They want 18 months of jail time.
And they're not resting until they get it or until the Supreme Court knocks it down.
And so, yeah, we're going to go before a panel of judges and they're going to decide whether the offense fits the punishment.
If I could, a question about this.
If you guys have talked about this on another episode before, I'll just have to go back and listen to it.
But are you saying that you were charged, you were convicted, you were sentenced, and you did the time, and the prosecutor is appealing the sentence, trying to get you more time?
Very similar.
That's not exactly correct, but that's pretty close to what's happened.
So I didn't get sentenced and then do the time.
I did the time in pre-sentence detention because the counterterrorism police lied to the court during my bail applications and said I was threatening witnesses from prison.
They never provided any evidence of this.
And when we finally appealed the fact that I didn't get bail after seven months in solitary confinement, we finally appealed the bail to a higher court, which is called a county court, which is like a middle court.
When we appealed it, the police were forced to present evidence and they stood down.
They didn't present the evidence because they didn't have any.
And I was given bail straight away after seven months solitary confinement.
So I did the time in pre-sentence detention.
And then when it finally did go to court about two and a half years later, which is very recently, end of last year, they gave me a month in jail instead of seven.
So I didn't have to do any extra extra prison because it was time served.
And so now we're being a free man.
And the Jewish prosecutor is appealing it to the Supreme Court, which is where murderers and rapists and terrorists go.
And they're trying to get 18 months.
They think it's unacceptable that the judge only gave us one month and that we should have gotten more.
That's wild.
You know, I don't know the legal system in Australia there.
I know it's theoretically possible in the United States for the government to appeal a sentence to a higher court, but you almost never hear about that.
Is that more common there?
Or I imagine that it's obvious that they're singling you out for your politics, but is that as unheard of there as I think it is?
It's extremely rare, extremely rare, and I can only think of a couple very, very high-profile cases.
So again, it's that anarcho-tyranny.
They would never appeal anything like this for a murderer or a pedophile or someone that's done some heinous crime against the community.
But they obviously have unlimited energy and prosecution power when there's someone with the political view they don't like.
Yeah, yeah.
That's wild, man.
Appealing a sentence because it was too low.
I mean, in prison, you know, guys are always appealing their sentences.
You know, they're always, you know, most sentence appeals are, hey, you gave me too much time.
You know, the government tends to say, all right, you know, you've been sentenced.
That's the end of it.
To appeal a sentence because it was too short.
You did seven months.
The judge gave you one to sort of like rub it in their nose, really.
It sounds like the judge kind of knew that they were screwing you.
The judge knew that I shouldn't have gotten any prison time at all.
So what they charged me with was acting in a riotous manner.
Well, it became a different charge because they changed the law while I was in jail, something about disorder, like group disorder.
And what that means is that there was like a similar incident to, you know, Rundo or, you know, a similar incident where two groups had clashed.
And I was present at this incident.
And because I was present at this incident, they're suggesting that I was involved despite having no proof that I was involved.
I've been charged with basically like a group affray.
I tried to go to trial with it, but the police would not give us the evidence that exonerated us from committing any of the crimes they alleged.
And the reason why they wouldn't give us the evidence is because Channel 9, which is a big TV channel here in Australia, the federal government, which is actually the, there was actually a barrister for ASIO, which is our version of the CIA, and the counter-terrorism police put three barristers forward and applied for something called public interest immunity.
And what they said was, it's not in the interests of the public that Thomas Saul and the defense get evidence that could potentially exonerate them because the evidence is injurious to the public's perception of the state.
And the judge heard the evidence in a secret court, a secret closed court.
The judge admitted that the process of even doing this was against the Open Courts Act, but because of the pressure from three barristers or three king's counsels, I believe they were.
They were high-level lawyers, one representing Channel 9, the media, one representing the counter-terrorism police, which we know as the terror police, and one representing the government, which was the ASIO, the Australian CIA.
The judge knew that that was a faux pas against the Open Courts Act 2004, but he did it anyway because of the sheer pressure, the weight of the state on him.
So we heard the evidence in a closed court.
He admitted later on, the first time we got to hear him speak after hearing the evidence, he admitted that the evidence was in favor of the defense and would help the defense's case in trial because what it would show is that I didn't commit a crime.
And what it would show is that these people created a crime and that ASIO and that the media were entrapping us or trying to entrap us into a crime.
that we more or less acted reserved and responsible.
And there was a few people that may have acted a little bit less reserved, but overall we had behaved in a defensive manner, not an offensive manner, after a couple of us were actually hit by a motor vehicle in this incident by a group of communist anti-fu-Jewish terrorists that had attacked us in a car park.
And the video evidence or audio evidence or whatever evidence they had, because they had a secret camera there, they had ASIO agents filming us.
And because what this would show is that the Australian state is actively trying to entrap and persecute Australian citizens for their political beliefs, the judge ruled that we couldn't have access to the evidence because it was injurious to the public's perception of the state.
Those were his exact words.
So we couldn't get the evidence.
So we decided not to go to trial because we would be going to trial blind with a stacked jury against us.
And we instead pleaded to this group affray charge, a very minor charge.
Although it faces 10 years in prison, we got a sentencing indication that we would get less than six months.
I'd already served seven months.
And so we took the deal.
We got one month.
And now they're appealing it because they want 18 months after we took the deal.
That is wild, man.
Injurious to the public's perception of the state.
The exact words, correct.
Wow.
I knew that was going to be catnip for you, Chris, with your newly legalistic ears and eyes.
Real quick, everybody knows that you're out, but you just have, how many more months do you have of supervised release before you're a free, free man, real quick?
They run out of excuses to keep me on in December, but I might be able to get off.
I was hoping to be off last December.
I'm going to file another motion in June and hopefully get it over with then.
Gotcha.
All right.
Godspeed, brother.
Tom, moving on.
Yeah, they want to get more pounds of flesh out of you.
And it makes me think, you know, in America, are you envious of Americans and especially American dissidents with our First Amendment and free speech rights?
And we can still throw Romans, yet you and the lads somehow got a hand gesture banned.
Was that for the entire country of Australia?
I'm doing the long question again.
Sorry, but what happened on Australia Day and are you envious of Americans with our quote-unquote rights?
I'm not envious.
And the main reason is that I think that the anarcho-tyranny is very similar no matter what country you're in.
I think whether you're in Australia, Germany, Britain, Canada, United States, I think it is overall pretty similar.
Obviously, Americans have more fundamental rights, those constitutional rights that we don't have.
However, look at what's happened to Chris himself.
Look what's happened to Rondo, Thomas Rousseau, and all the Jan 6 political prisoners.
The Constitution hasn't protected them.
It hasn't helped them.
They're still being tortured and locked up and mistreated despite those fundamental laws that are meant to be on their side.
And laws are meaningless if they're not justly enforced.
And what we experienced on Australia Day was we had 67 guys, which is, I think, the biggest turnout we've ever had for a public-facing event.
There's been private events that have been bigger, but that's certainly the biggest public-facing event.
A lot of risk involved.
And to get those numbers was definitely an increase in morale and manpower than usual.
We had 67 men who attended a rally for Australia Day, which is our like 4th of July.
It's our national holiday.
It's very sort of Civic Patriot Day, but obviously there carries heavier symbolism.
And we attempted to attend our own rally in public in the CBD of Sydney, which has some very iconic buildings, very iconic, I guess you could say, the international community would be able to recognize where we were, despite not knowing Australia very well.
They'd be able to recognize the public setting that we would be placed in, in the city.
And we were unable to do this public demonstration on this long weekend because the political police, along with the riot squad, along with the transit police, along with, very interestingly, the Raptor Squad, which is the anti-organized crime, anti-bikey task force, the four police task force put together numbered a similar number to us,
and they detained us while we were on public transport and stopped us.
They gave us a legal, well, a pseudo-legal order saying that we could not attend the Sydney CBD on Australia Day.
We could not attend a public Australia Day function for the period of the Australia Day long weekend, and that breach of that order would be 12 months in prison.
And so this is very, very clearly a fake law.
This is not a real law.
This is one of those vague public order concepts that's within our legal system that are very selectively imposed on us, but not on the Aboriginals and communists who are rioting and demonstrating in the city on that day.
Roger, and was that what provided the excuse for the Roman salute ban?
You know, did they seize on that and then push through legislation?
You know, Florida has done that with the Goyam Defense League demonstrations to push anti-Semitism laws, etc.
No, it's unrelated.
The federal law had already been drafted and was being passed through some of the houses six months prior to our Australia Day demonstration.
So that's been in the works probably since our rally last year, about 12 months ago.
We did a rally called Destroy Pedo Freaks, where we protested against the transgendered drag queen story hour that was happening in Melbourne.
And since then, they have been drafting state laws to ban the Roman salute, and shortly after, they were drafting federal laws.
So that's been in the works for some time.
But that was the first rally we have done since those laws passed through both houses of parliament.
Gotcha.
And what's the penalty for snapping a stiff one?
I believe that it's 12 months in prison and I think $10,000 or $20,000 in fines.
It's a large number signed.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Obviously, they're very afraid of the stiffy arm.
They're very afraid of the right-armed, erect, open-hand, open gesture.
They're very afraid of that powerful phallic masculine symbol that you are absolutely stealing.
Perhaps you could just all pretend to be Hitler and do the receiving one where he's sort of like waving, he's catching all the power.
Maybe that would be splitting hairs.
Sneak by.
That is one of the strategies we're going with.
We're currently contesting the erect, the erection.
And if that doesn't succeed, we will then contest a, you know, more a like a half, a half salute.
We'll see if a half salute will pass.
We'll keep testing this until we get down to a wave.
You're getting better on the humor, big guy.
Yeah, I take it back.
I believe in the artillery corps, this is called bracketing.
You bracket, you fire for effect.
And we're bracketing the mortar fire.
We'll find the hot zone.
We'll find where the target is.
Amen, brother.
What do you think, Tom?
Go ahead, Chris.
I'm sorry.
In the subject of the free speech vein, I mean, I guess what you're describing about your experiences sort of leads me down the answer to this.
But, you know, I've toyed with the idea that it might be better just to have the laws formally in place that you know what you're allowed to say and you know what you're not allowed to say, as opposed to what they do sort of in the United States here, where they, you know, they're like, oh, you can say whatever you want.
And then they just find some reason to prosecute you.
But it sounds to me like, you know, as I was thinking of this, I was going to ask you this question, and I guess that my answer sort of came to me, which is that they do the same thing there.
It's like if you have, you know, there's things that you're not allowed to say, and then you end up having to, as you say, bracket your fire, you know, to see, you know, well, at what point does it really kick in, right?
Because they're going to find some way.
If you're conveying the message, they're going to come after you, and it doesn't matter if you actually violate the speech codes, I guess.
Yeah, this is like the most Pharisaical type of thing.
It's whatever they don't like that they will find a way to oppress it.
You know, you have rights as long as they don't mess with you the moment they think that you are any kind of threat or might be exposing something, then, yeah, they will find a way.
There are no rights under this Jewish system.
But Thomas, in Australia, now you say that they recently crafted this rule against the Roman salute, but it's my understanding that prior to that, they had some kind of hate speech law, right?
I mean, was it previously just a strict question of intent or were there certain things you weren't allowed to say?
Or how is it structured?
If you could tell us briefly.
So they have a series of laws that have been in place as early as 1975.
They've been renewed in the 90s, I think 96.
They got renewed again in the early 2000s, I think after Cronola riots.
And they've been renewed again in the 2015s since the anti-Islam movement.
So every time there's been resistance against the system, so the creation of the laws, Anti-Discrimination Act, was the same time they abolished the White Australia policy.
So that's in the 70s.
Then you've got the reinforcement of the law in the 90s when there was a Pauline Hansen white nationalist, soft white nationalist pushback against the mongrelization of Australia and the Asianization of Australia.
Then in the 2000s, you have a pushback, a cultural pushback against the Arabs that were coming into the country.
And you had the Cronola riots where Aussie men went down to the beach and was sick to death of the sexual harassment by these Muslim rape gangs and bashed every Arab that they saw on site, which is probably one of the most heroic days in Australia's history.
And then about 10 years after that, you have Blair Cottrell, myself, Neil Erickson, Chris Shortis, a few other guys pushing the anti-Islam scene to the next limit.
Here in Australia, they renewed the laws again.
And they've recently readjusted the laws in the last five years and again in the last year to include things like swastika ban, the SS rune ban, the stiffy arm salute ban.
And the Jews are also drafting laws.
They want to ban runes.
We use runes as well.
So they want to ban the tier, the odal, the elges.
They want to ban all rune, runic symbols, anything that was used in any way by the National Socialists or the SS.
And these laws have been in place for a long time, but they keep getting reinforced and strengthened and emboldened.
And they keep changing them to be not more descript, but actually less descript.
So Blair Cottrell got charged, along with two of his colleagues, Neil Erickson and Shortis.
They got charged in 2015 under the 18C, which is the Racial Vilification Act.
And they were charged with a very strange crime.
And I'm trying to remember the exact wording, but it sounded something like this.
Intent to cause serious ridicule against a protected group of people, in brackets, Muslims.
And what they did was they did a stunt where they filmed themselves beheading a dummy and saying, Ala Akbar, and they put it up on the internet and said, are these really the kind of people you want to bring into this country?
Now, there was no complainant in the case.
The state prosecuted these guys on behalf of the Muslim community without an actual complaint from the Muslim community.
So it's a thought crime because they, even then, the laws were strong enough that the state could say, we believe this was your intent.
We believe this was the thoughts that went through your head when you committed this act and your intentions when you committed it.
And we believe that this offended people that we haven't even spoken to.
And on the basis that we can predict how you think, why you've done it without asking you, and that you've offended people that we haven't asked either, we're charging you.
And they were only fined with that because it was a new iteration of the law.
And I think they wanted legal precedence.
So they didn't do jail time, but you can get up to six months for that crime.
And I believe those laws, again, in the last couple of years, have been strengthened.
And with the Jews really cracking down on the National Socialist and white nationalist symbology, they have increased that.
I think some of these offenses now carry one to two years.
And more so if they're in conjunction with another offense, they can give you a very serious prison time.
So, for example, if you bash someone in Australia, you can get up to, say, five years in prison.
But if you were wearing a mask when you did it, you can get up to 10 years.
And if there might have been some racial reason why you did it, you could look at maybe eight years instead of five years.
So when I did the dance monkey incident, when I bashed that security guard that attacked Jacob, I was looking at 12 or 18 months in prison.
But my lawyer said, be careful, you could be facing three or four years if they can prove racial vilification.
So a crime is more severe if they can prove that you're a racist when you did it.
Same here.
Yeah, we've got hate crime enhancements for things here.
That's an increasingly common feature, sadly, in the United States.
The Supreme Court will strike them down if they say, you know, if you ban the speech itself, but as an aggravating factor to some other crime, those laws have stood those laws have stood the test.
And extraordinarily rare for them to go the other way when it's black on white crime, even when they could literally shout, I'm going to kill you, honky, white devil.
And it probably wouldn't count.
Tom, I was on a call or I was talking with a relatively new guy to the cause recently, and he name-dropped you two or three times as somebody who inspired him and provided him, you know, helped red pill him essentially.
So I want to ask what you are most focused on in terms of projects.
You got the lads, you got tribe and trained, you got demonstrations.
I know you were looking for property.
It's not directly relevant to our audience.
Australia, I think, was unfortunately only number four.
It was Canada, then the UK, and then Australia in terms of our international listenership.
We'll hopefully do better now.
But what are you working on most intensely?
What's your most important project, please?
Well, I'm working on about 10 things, unfortunately.
I would say the property is up there as one of the top priorities to secure a physical existence for our community.
We've got a huge baby boom at the moment.
That's really one of the biggest things that's changed in our organization over the last five years.
Yeah, I wouldn't say that there's one thing that's my top priority.
I would say that there's many projects I'm working on.
The top three projects would be the development of a rural property for us to keep our families safe on.
The state is currently allowing the use of violence against our homes, against our property, against our families.
And I would suggest that this is a coordinated effort because we're not giving up.
So they're just increasing their violence level, their threat level against us.
And certainly being rural, remote, and tight-knit as a community definitely would help our physical security as a community.
That's one of my top priorities.
Another one is certainly the development of our rural active clubs.
So we have focused very heavily the last five years on building up the cities.
We have an active club and a community group in every major city in this country.
And what we're really developing is the nodes that connect the cities.
So we're building up active clubs all throughout the rural regions and the interconnecting towns and areas between the major cities.
So we're really connecting the nodes.
We're lighting signal fires or warning fires all across the nation and connecting the rural people to the city people.
And my third biggest priority is the development of, I would say, instructional material and ideological material, training guides, training manuals, not just for the movement here in Australia, but also for international active clubs.
I have been working tirelessly over the last couple years, helping build active clubs all across America, all across Europe, helping with all different types, all different models.
And one of the things that is lacking is some source material, some hard material manuals for young leaders to be able to read that source material, understand the pros and cons and the flaws and all the different types of models that they can utilize and hybridize and just all the fail safes and SOPs that they need to know in order to avoid the pitfalls.
Likewise, we have a lot of junior leaders here in Australia, a lot of group leaders that need mentoring, and that is the majority of my time spent.
And so I just want to streamline these processes a lot better and be more effective as a strategic leader so that I'm not constantly being, I wouldn't use the term bogged down, but certainly constantly occupied with that one-on-one or three-on-one mentoring of our young leaders.
Totally understand.
And we might come back to one or more of those.
Before we get too far, though, I wanted to ask.
A lot of our audience is probably in the class or the grouping of, I got a career, I got a wife and kids.
Frankly, white nationalism in the United States has been a little bit of a sine wave from ramps to shit shows and collapses, drama, etc.
And I assume you got plenty of those guys in Australia who have come your way, but are maybe a little bit overly cautious, not interested in taking on excessive risk.
What do you do when you get those good quality guys, though, who have a very high risk aversion?
You tell them to stop being a pussy and jump in, or do you handle them with kid gloves?
That sort of character.
Well, one of the 10 projects that I'm working on this year is to redevelop a community group that's a side project or sideshow to our current Active Club community group and our activism network.
There's a lot of guys in the wider community, a lot of ex-members, former members, disgruntled people, not disgruntled people, people that have left because of the heat or the pressure.
And there's so many, there's hundreds of guys in the white nationalist community that are currently atomized and alienated because they don't have the time, energy, or commitment level to follow through with the models that we're currently running.
So I am trying to work out a way of utilizing these people, starting with basic social meetings, stanley meetings that's completely separate to our current organization and trying to utilize them perhaps in a more traditional political sense.
And we're certainly looking at developing a bulwark against the major political parties and working out how to mobilize the extended community that we have into a membership of a traditional organization, a traditional political facing organization, and to put on some pressure at the ballot box.
So not a priority of mine to try to win elections, but certainly tying in with our meta-political goals of putting up one or two guys in the country to focus on putting our message out there, creating legal protections, and certainly bringing some interest back into politics for white people, trying to engage white people in politics at the capacity that they're currently interested in,
which unfortunately is still spectator sport, but utilizing that energy as best as we can and then looking to transmute it and mobilize it in different ways as time goes on.
Amen, brother.
That was actually going to be my next question.
And this is going to be more catnip for Chris Cantwell, who of course has taken a lot of heat for his approach, which is, look, there's two parties in the United States.
One, the Republicans, of course, is more or less far closer to our views with some people getting in, et cetera.
And the problems you face in Australia are the same we face here in the UK, Germany, et cetera.
And the symptom, of course, is the invasion, the displacement, the slow rolling replacement genocide level immigration invasion, which of course is downstream from Jewish power.
But to make Australia white again, in theory, you have to either wait for collapse or get into the system to work it.
So your approach then would be to do something new outside and not go the route of trying to make the Liberal Party, which is of course your, in theory, right-wing party, accept you guys in or sneak somebody in.
But you got a different situation than we do there.
So it would be something new and you have more or less washed your hands of your parties as they exist today there.
Yeah, absolutely.
We would be looking at fracturing. the right into a million pieces and then rebuilding it from our position.
So Australian politics, I would say, is leaning, as time goes on, the hegemony of the big two, the hegemony of Liberal Labor, which is Democrat and Republican in a kind of weird wacky hybridization.
The power of the duopoly is collapsing.
And more and more power is going to the extremes.
More and more power is going to the further left and further right parties.
And we're becoming more and more European in our politics.
And there's certainly room for us to maneuver and occupy space on the political spectrum and take votes away from the mainstream political parties and ideally smash them into a million pieces.
That's our goal.
Our goal is to destroy the centre right, the fake opposition.
So in Australia, though, you have parliamentary proportional representation, is it?
Yeah, we have two houses.
So it's similar to the old, I guess it's always been around as a concept, the idea of you have a Senate and you have members of parliament.
So I think in the UK they have like a House of Lords.
Our Senate is similar to that concept.
So senators are elected as a percentage of a state's population.
And then MPs are elected because they win the majority of an actual region vote.
So we're kind of divided into, I guess, like an electoral college.
So Victoria might have a certain amount of MP seats.
I think it might be 30 or 40 seats.
I'm not sure exactly.
I know Melbourne would be like 10 or 12 seats and then big rural regions are divided into one seat each and that's at a federal level.
The biggest candidate from each seat gets the seat as an MP.
But senators are different.
They're actually elected as long as they get a certain percentage of the total population of the state.
They get put forward.
And I think there's 14 senators from each state and they do seven every four years.
And then you stay on for between four and eight years, I'm pretty sure.
But is it so members of parliament, it's a winner-take-all election model?
So how it then works in terms of who the prime minister is is within the number of MPs.
So I don't believe the Senate decides who the Prime Minister is or the ruling party.
They more, they can block legislation coming through and block laws coming through.
So it's similar to how you guys have multiple houses.
You have your Senate and your House of Representatives.
We just call our House of Representatives MPs or members of parliament, ministers of parliament.
And so the winner-takes-all is the sense that the prime minister has to be from the party that gets the most amount of seats.
And that party generally has to work more and more so in a coalition with parties on their side of politics.
So the Liberal Party is in a coalition with a smaller party called the Nationals, which is basically its rural satellite.
There's no difference between the two parties.
It's just a rebranded version of itself.
And the Labour Party is in a coalition more or less with a group called the Greens, which is the Australian Communist Party rebranded as an environmentalist party.
Right.
But I mean, so like a member of parliament, he wins his district up or down, or there's a proportional representation for members of parliament?
I don't understand the question fully, but the MP wins outright.
So if he gets the majority vote, he wins.
If he gets the biggest, if he's the biggest percentage of the vote in his region, so I'll give you an example.
In the seat of Kuyong, which is the inner city, inner east of Melbourne, where all the rich boomers live, the guy that wins the most amount of votes in Kuyong, which is about maybe 10 or 12 suburbs put together, he becomes the, or he or she becomes the minister for Kuyong.
Yeah, that's what I meant.
Yeah, so it's similar to 40, 40%.
Yeah.
Yeah, but when you have, yeah, because he doesn't need to get half of the vote.
He just needs to get more votes than the other guys.
And there's, you know, four or five people might be running because you still have a functionally multi-party democracy.
But in the MP elections, it's a winner-take-all model.
But you still have two major parties, essentially, you're saying, but they can influence by the mechanics of however they influence.
Yes.
Well, the mechanics are the most, I think someone dropped the word Pharisees before.
They're the most sort of, the mechanics of it is very Judaic, very Pharisee.
The mechanics of our voting is it has a system called preferential voting.
So the major parties can collect all the votes of the satellite parties.
So there could be 10 parties on the right, which, well, there is 10 parties on the right.
And all these little minor parties on the right, they have a preferential system where if they don't win the seat, their votes go towards the Liberal Party, which is actually our right-wing party, center-right, instead of them going towards the Labour Party or disappearing into the ether.
So the Greens will preference the Labor.
So if the Greens don't win outright, their votes stack the Labour.
If the minor parties like the Nationals or UAP or Libertarians or this or that or the other, whatever the center-right parties are, if they don't win outright, which is very rare for them to win outright, I think there's a few seats that are occupied by UAP.
There's a few seats that are occupied by Fishers and Shooters and Hunters Party, you know, these kind of like little niche parties.
There's a few areas where they have their strongholds in the rural countryside.
But in general, they might get 5% or 10% of the vote in the city regions, and then they will put their votes towards the Liberal Party candidate.
And then the Liberal Party candidate, therefore, overall gets more votes than the Labour Party candidate.
So the Liberal Party does rely on these parties giving them the satellite.
Do you think that that helps or harms these smaller parties?
You know, there's a lot of debate about, I think what you're referring to is referred to here in the United States as ranked choice voting.
And it seems to be that the left is always trying to institute this.
There seems to be an aversion to it on the right.
And I'm not sure what the impact of that would necessarily be.
Do you think that it helps or harms the smaller parties on the right?
Or do you think that there's a difference between how it affects the left versus how it affects the right?
I think it absolutely harms true democracy.
I think it absolutely harms the minor parties on the right.
There's two systems in Australia that make our democracy far worse than your republic.
And those two things are we have mandatory voting.
And what that results in, we have mandatory voting.
Got a fine last year because I didn't vote or two years ago, sorry.
I got a fine because I didn't vote.
I got fined $80.
It's some arbitrary number.
It doesn't matter.
But the point is, is that they pressure you to vote.
And if they're going to press you to vote, most people that are pressured are going to vote for the major parties.
So if they remove mandatory voting, what you'll find is the Liberal and Labor Party won't get anywhere near as many votes as they actually do get every election.
And the waiting will be more European.
These minor parties will have a much larger percentage of the people who are politically conscious.
So the major parties, Labor and Liberal, are in a duopoly.
They're in cahoots to ensure that there's mandatory voting.
And that would be one of the biggest things we would tackle at a political level.
If we got guys in parliament, we would be putting bills forward to ban mandatory voting, to stop mandatory voting, because all it does is strengthen the major parties.
Secondarily, the preference scheme certainly helps the monopoly stay in power.
And it's this idea that the minor parties gain very little when they win.
Well, they were probably going to win anyway.
And when they lose, well, they're going to lose most of the time.
And so they're just a satellite to the big parties.
So they gain very little and they help the major parties extremely, like they help them a lot get that percent that they need to win against the other major party.
Yeah, the mandatory voting thing is really bad.
I mean, you know, it's that is that is obviously designed to, you know, to basically have the low information voter control the country or to hand control over to people who can manipulate them.
You know, it's the average person is not that informed about politics and they just go in there like, well, what did I see on TV this morning?
You know, it's not a good way to run a country.
Yeah, mandatory voting in the United States, the country would be entirely blue.
And then you add in just the slightest restrictions for individual agency and then it's a sea of red.
Got to move on here a little bit, gentlemen, although that was fascinating sincerely.
Maybe we'll visit revisit it.
Tom, whenever you need to get out of the car or park or reach your destination, just say the word.
Tom, I'll park now.
If you can give me five minutes, I'll be back on in five on the computer.
Good deal.
We'll take five.
Well, tell you what.
Five minutes to the hour anyway.
Keep going and I'll just join in in five minutes.
Well, very good.
I got a slew more questions for Tom.
We got five minutes to the hour, Chris.
So going back to you, has your we know you're a pro-Trump guy more or less opportunistically or through your evaluations of the levers of power.
I, of course, will just do a quick, we've been meaning to talk about U.S. domestic politics for a while on the show.
I have gone from full-throated, enthusiastic Trump supporter 2016.
2020, I wrote in the Austrian corporal in 2024.
That was a little bit of a temper tantrum, although I don't really regret it because I was so disgusted by Trump.
2024, even if he's a Zionist shill philosophite, and it doesn't even necessarily matter in West Virginia, of course, because he's going to sweep it.
If I were in a swing state, I would vote for Trump if for no other reason than the border and because he is object, even though he failed in his first term, he objectively did more and tried more and was more effective on stopping the flow, even if he didn't build the wall and deport them all.
And my operating theory is that it is impossible for a man of his wealth and stature to be subjected to so much in just the past four years.
I mean, they're literally trying to bankrupt him and or throw him in jail.
He can't possibly suck as much as he did the first term.
Does that jive with you?
Or are you like sincerely Trump opportunistic or is it all Machiavellian calculations for you?
Well, I mean, there's a lot of things that I like about Trump, you know, but most, the most important thing about it is just defeating the other side, right?
So like, you know, somebody on Gab asked me, you know, how can you support Trump when he yada, yada, yada?
And my answer to him, I couldn't repeat the exact words on full house, but it was, you know, I, I, I, because I hold whining anti-Trump so-and-so's in the utmost seething contempt and I like seeing them unhappy, right?
Now, you know, this was somebody who was attacking Trump from the right that I'd said it to.
And, you know, humorously, he came around and he was like, yeah, that's why I support him too.
And I was like, you were just attacking me for throwing Trump.
I was aiming that at you.
But, you know, so, you know, first things first, if all Trump did was make Democrats unhappy, that would make him the superior candidate of the available options to us in American politics.
Right.
If, if everything he did policy-wise was going to destroy the country and all he did was make the demo, make the Democrats upset, that would still make him a superior alternative to Nikki Haley and Joe Biden.
And your vote is going to mean precisely nothing voting for anybody but those candidates.
Right.
So, you know, it's not a difficult decision who is the, among our choices, who is the best choice.
That's like, just to me, obvious.
The question is, how much energy do you want to devote to it at the end of the day?
You know, throw money and campaign and knock on doors like 2016, or you just want to show up.
It takes half an hour of tops usually.
And you could be, you could be absolutely certain I'm going to do none of those things, right?
Like I'm not going to, I'm not going to go show up at the Trump campaign office and be like, hey, put me to work, boys, because first of all, they'll kick me out.
And second, I don't have the time to do it.
And I certainly am not going to give the guy any of my money.
I don't have it.
I don't have much, you know?
And so I.
I think the thing that's good about Trump is what I like about Trump is I like what his followers think he is, even though he's not that thing.
And I think that that is what the left and our enemies are afraid of.
They're not so much afraid of Trump.
They're afraid of us.
And they are afraid of even though his followers may not be as informed as we would like for them to be, they do represent some real numbers of people who think he's this thing that he isn't.
But you know what I mean?
He's he's an opportunist.
And he, there's even a quote out there from him before he ran the first time where he said, you know, if I was thumping the Bible and if I was talking against immigration, I said the right wing things, I could get elected president.
And sure enough, he did.
Yep.
And I think, and one of the things, Sam, that you hear all the time is that, no, no, no, you, you want Biden and you want like 40 million illegals coming in to wreck the thing or to fully radicalize everybody.
And I'm like, I don't really, I don't see like the MAGA crowd just going back to sleep and saying like, oh, we won the election.
It's all over.
Because they'll still get totally attacked.
He was president when January 6th, the most radical domestic political event since the Civil War probably occurred.
Or maybe, you know, there was some pretty cool mine wars in West Virginia.
I don't buy that.
And it's, you know, it really tests your commitment to accelerationism and, you know, crash the plane with no survivors.
Like, do you, do you really want four more years of like an even more Jewish administration?
Do you really want X million more illegals?
Yeah, he, we, we know that he's a Jew lover.
And I know that some of the audience will get pissed off at this.
And that's okay.
I, I, I get it.
Like, you know, if you want to stay home, you want to stay home.
I would say if you live in a, if you want to stay home, you want to write in again, you know, I get it.
But if you live in a swing state, it costs you nothing.
And I know the whole lesser of two evils thing too, but it's like there's like really evil.
And then this guy who like says good things and like really suck the first time around, but has his ass up against the line and might even pardon the January 6th or all of them if he pardons one or two.
Go ahead.
Well, and we're not hanging our hats on Trump like, yeah, that's what we need is Trump as president.
No, we're just, there's this thing coming up, this election.
Say, say whatever you want about it.
But, you know, we're commenting on the election and the major candidates.
And that's the most significant dynamic that I would identify is that the powers that be are afraid of what Trump represents, regardless that he's pro-gay and everything else, you know, that his followers think he's something.
Yeah, that's exactly what Sam said it best.
It's not what Trump does necessarily policy-wise.
It's what his followers want, right?
When they are demanding things of the government that are further to the right than the government is prepared to give them, right?
That is a change in our politics.
And I think that that is, you know, you try to think about what were people demanding from John McCain and Mitt Romney, right?
Like they didn't even, they didn't even want, like, it's like, oh, can you maybe like this?
They wanted binders full of women.
You know, they're like, yeah, can you go, can you go finish off the Muslims and, you know, can and can you cut my taxes 2% or whatever.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, this is literally the milquetoast nonsense that these guys, they inspired in the population.
And so like, which the Overton window has shifted, and that's, that's the good of it, if you want to say, is, is Trump has made certain conversations in this country possible that were not possible before.
And a suggestion, a suggestion for the audience, I recommend, if you can, if there's one near you, go to a Trump rally, if for no other reason than to observe the spectacle and report back.
Number two, of course, is networking.
And I guarantee you, some of our guys will be there orbutting our guys.
And number three, if he does happen to issue the stuff that drives you up the wall, Israel greatest ally, or maybe a little milquetoast on the gay question, boo loudly.
And I guarantee there's going to be other people in the audience who might also be interested in that.
Imagine that Trump getting real live feedback from his adoring crowds on the few stinkers in his agenda.
It might make a difference.
You never know.
We are at the hour, Rolo.
Thank you for being circumspect about your excellent timekeeping because we were dinging on the recording.
I'm sorry for the ding on the recording.
I just fixed that, by the way.
Oh, is that you, you son of a bitch?
You're not invited back for the second half.
Stick with us, Chris, because Tom is coming back.
He was kind enough.
I joke with the guys that it was like having, you know, we were doing the Rush Limbaugh show here and we got a really good caller on the air calling from the road.
Tom was kind enough to do it and the audio wasn't bad either.
But we will be right back.
And I kind of had to go to my, I gave Tom the option to pick a song.
So I picked a song that I thought that he and the lads might like.
It's a little harder, electronica, like he's chosen before.
This is called Ego, which is not a reference to his or our egos, but it's by the organism.
I think you'll enjoy it.
And we will be right back with Cantwell, Sam, Rolo, myself, and some guy named Tom Sewell.
Go anywhere.
Full house,
episode 180, special edition.
Double heavy hitter or quintuple heavy hitter, however you prefer.
Tom is back with us, Chris is back with us.
We're going to try to jam as much as we can into a short period of time as possible.
My, I have to share on air, my hamstring woes was because I was driving the kids to the bus stop this morning.
And what was in front of me but a fallen tree completely blocking the road.
It wasn't big, but it wasn't small.
So my first thought was to move it out of the way manually, even while hobbling, and really had to get the back into it, try to put all my weight on my good knee, and then oh, got the hamstring shoot laser strike right up.
So then I said, all right, plan B, I'm not moving this thing.
The kids were not exactly much help.
So I went back to the shed to get my electric chainsaw and the battery was dead in that.
I didn't really have time to mess with the gas, didn't want to do that.
So what did I do?
I drove over the tree with the minivan, didn't rip out the guts or anything like that.
So, you know, improvising.
Keep your, if you have, if you have those batteries, keep them charged.
Moving on, new white life.
I only got one.
Sam's got a couple.
Exo croix.
Not sure what that may be, French Canadian.
Maybe he's a fan of Lacroix Sparkling Waters.
Sent the positive result.
He showed the picture of the positive result and says he's nervous and excited.
So I told him, ah, you're going to be fine.
You know, don't get cockies.
It's okay, Coach.
I got other kids too.
So he's still nervous and excited, even with number two or number three coming on the way, whatever it is.
Sam, over to you.
What do you got in the Hobbard?
Yeah, a couple of guys finally opened up and let us know that two more children are on the way.
One guy will be his second, very young family, wonderful people.
And the other guy will be number five.
So both great guys, both guys well known.
So good for them.
Amen.
Thank you, Sam.
As we said last show, there's all sorts of ways you can contribute to the cause, activism, propaganda, money, sharing your expertise, adding to our ranks.
If it's not number one is near number one.
Uh Tom, you got any new white lives you want to share on air or keep them under your hat?
I don't know.
Yeah, absolutely.
We've had more babies than ever.
Every year more babies.
So this year.
I might be wrong, but I think we've already had four babies just this year in our org.
So that was the Queensland leader, I believe the Queensland 2IC.
Uh, the New South Wales leader had one at uh last year.
We had one last year.
Uh, Tim just had a baby as well, Tim's partner uh, Tim's wife, so that that's one in Victoria.
We've got three more on the way in Victoria, we've got one on the way, or two on the way in Tasmania, I think.
And uh, we've got more more on the way in uh all across the country.
So I think there's four or five on the way um, and we've already had, I think, at least four or five.
So, and then, and my sister-in-law just had a baby as well.
She's not in the organization obviously, but she just had one.
So lots of babies.
It's baby season.
Yeah amen wonderful Tom, thanks is Tim.
Is Tim the one whose house was firebombed, with his wife and correct kid?
Have they?
Have they Jesus Sorry, have they lifted a finger to uh find the perps or any idea yet?
No, absolutely absolutely not.
No, the counterterrorism are not interested in terrorism against us uh.
They are only interested in stopping us from uh peacefully and uh lawfully uh putting forward our political views.
They're not interested in actual terrorism.
They are the terror police themselves.
If anything, they probably helped Antifur uh commit these crimes.
So that's, that's the insider you mentioned.
A guy got his, his house firebombed.
Is this the headline that I saw?
That some publication was like this Nazi's mad that his house got burned down, or something like that.
Does that ring a bell?
Yeah, the publication was, Neo-nazi leader runs to police, like they were calling him a coward.
They were saying he's like yeah, he's a coward for running to police, when that's actually not what happened.
So the short version is, around midnight or 1 a.m uh, a group of Antifur threw three molotov cocktails, one at each car and one at the house, one at the bedroom where him and his pregnant wife were, and he's he's obviously got two kids.
On top of that um, and the molotov that hit the house rolled off and exploded on the front lawn.
The molotov that hit one of the cars bounced off and exploded on the nature strip.
And then the other molotov actually did penetrate the vehicle and, um and like it, blew up the vehicle.
So uh, he lost one of his cars, the house and kids were safe.
The fence burnt down in the process and obviously the neighbors called the police and fire brigade.
He went out, put out the fire.
They'd already driven off on a in a in a certain particular vehicle that I won't mention on stream.
Um, we've got our information as to who these people are.
Uh, we don't know the exact person, but we know very roughly who these people are and obviously we're.
We're we're doing things To be able to deal with this problem, because the police aren't.
And these are the same people that have cut down, I think, three Captain Cook statues in the last six months.
So they're doing public vandalism as well.
They're trying to tear down our statues.
It's the same group of people.
And the police have done nothing to arrest these people.
All of our charges have been pre-crime.
They've been all pre-crime.
All of our incidences, almost all of our incidences, I should say, are pre-crime.
So the police are there waiting for us.
The police are trying to create, you know, they've got an agent provocateur or all these incidences we've been in almost all of them.
There's a pre-crime element to it.
Whereas when it comes to actual terrorism, the police are nowhere to be seen.
When the police did rock up, they actually left the Molotov cocktails on the front lawn and the Nature's Group.
One of them was unexploded.
So they left evidence on the scene.
They didn't take fingerprints.
They didn't take DNA.
In this incident that I'm going to the Supreme Court for, where a Jewish person got their feelings hurt and they urinated themselves out of fear and intimidation from my existence.
The police, this is one of the reasons why we wanted to go to trial.
The police, like, they've still got my car.
It's been three years.
They've got my car.
They've got Jacob's car.
And they found my own DNA in my own car.
And they can prove that it is my DNA in my own car.
And there's only a one in a billion chance that the DNA that they found in my car is not my DNA.
And so they're going to those kind of lengths where they're DNA testing my car to find my own DNA.
But they won't even take prints off a bomb out the front of a family man's house.
So it's absolutely disgusting.
It's an anarcho-tyranny.
It's anarcho-tyranny.
It's anarchy when the leftists firebomb you, and it's tyranny when you make a Jew piss himself.
And that's for our audience, too.
That's some next, I mean, you know, Molotov cocktails at your home with your pregnant wife at home is next level.
A lot of guys get a little nervous if some flyers go up in their neighborhood or, you know, an article is written about you online.
Put it in perspective, not to test fate.
That is, of course, coming.
I just, I'll insert, I understand what's being conveyed with the anarcho-tyranny line.
I don't use that term myself because there's nothing anarchic about this.
This is state-sponsored terrorism, right?
When you're granted a license to run around committing crimes, you're acting, you know, you're acting as an intelligence agency fundamentally, right?
I mean, that's what they're doing.
They're being given a full-on license to commit crimes.
There's nothing anarchic about it.
It's like the border policy in the United States.
It's not that the United States is not enforcing border policy.
It's that the policy is to facilitate the invasion, right?
It's a government action when they do that, you know.
And that's why I push back against calling Antifa anarchists because they're perfectly fine with a big government that's pro-trannies and porno and dildos and drugs and all that other stuff.
Everything they do is a lie, especially the anarchist bit right now.
And that's not to say anything good about anarchism.
It's just that's not what they are, right?
I mean, they are agents of the system and they call themselves anarchists as a form of cover, right?
They're like, no, we don't like the government.
You are the government.
What are you talking about?
We may have a chart corpse who was alternately anti-fa communist, aspiring, tranny, gay retard.
Take your pick.
Well, when retards call them anarchists, it's dishonest.
It's like, you know that they're not anarchists.
Right.
They call this.
Yeah, they call them, they also probably call, well, they call themselves like counterculture too, even though they have the exact, like literally, Antifa, what are your political beliefs?
Apple terms of service.
Yep.
Real quick, gents, I got two gems here I wanted to read real quick for the benefit of the audience and, of course, our correspondence.
And this one goes, hey, coach, I don't know if I ever told you, but you and your show has been a huge and motivating factor in my life.
I think it helped me get on the right track away from drugs and partying and ready for a family-oriented lifestyle.
My daughter is my whole world, and my wife and I are happier and healthier than we ever were before having her.
Mostly keeping this under our hat, but number two is on the way.
Hail the full house crew.
I is a good friend of mine.
I will keep his name and sock everything under wraps, but thank you, buddy, means a lot to me.
Wonderful guy.
Couldn't be happier for you.
And we had one more from John Anon.
He said, I don't want to advertise this in an open forum, but I am now a father to be.
We're at the 28-week mark, and it's been an exciting ordeal.
The first trimester was scary, but after the scares and struggles, I've already grown so much from this.
In a few short months, a new Ozarkian will be born.
Thanks for having the show.
It's been a great influence for me and an inspiration.
I did not write those.
I never write these.
I swear they're all 100% legitimate.
I do, Tom, I do have to ask you about makeup and Down syndrome babies eventually.
You know, you smoked the fires a little bit.
We'll get to that later.
But I had a serious question for you, sort of in keeping with the self-immolated pro-Palestinian guy to be extremely charitable.
You hear, this is kind of a minority opinion, but you see it a lot.
If only we had reached him, or it's our failure, or rather than calling them gay retards or stupid communists, you know, maybe we should be more charitable to them.
And I'm all for like diplomacy and being charitable and open to everybody, but that strikes me as a waste of time, idiocy, and some people can't be saved.
The flip side of that is that our natural constituency, from what I've seen and I've told our guys, is conservatives and libertarians to a slightly lesser extent.
Not too many libertarians.
Question being, do you focus your propaganda, your outreach on a, you know, a demographic, et cetera?
Have you had any ex-antifa come your way?
Or do you have to fish where the fish are biting in terms of your outreach efforts?
Quite a controversial subject.
I would say we're living in a very different time to Hitler's time.
I understand that Adolf Hitler believed that some of the most effective propagandists that they recruited or some of the most effective SA were people that had that revolutionary spirit and they often came from the other extreme of politics and that they weren't people that had leapfrogged or sort of been, you know, gone through the pipeline.
They weren't people necessarily gone through the pipeline.
They're more people, maybe a way of describing it, although I haven't heard this described from Hitler, but maybe a modern day word would be horseshoe.
They've more gone through the horseshoe than the pipeline.
Now, that might have been true in Hitler's day because there was a relatively homogenous, healthy society that was demoralized from the war, confused, and everything happened very quickly, very, very quickly.
We're looking at 10 years of decay.
We're looking at, you know, the demoralization from a war effort and the confusion of a couple years or maybe up to a decade.
What we're living in, I think, is very different.
We've lived through 70 80 years of decay and uh, it hasn't been.
It has been quick if we're looking at civilization as a whole, but it hasn't been quick in terms of people's lifetimes.
We can see where it's come from and we can see where it's going.
So I would say in theory no, I don't believe we're going to recruit good people from the left, like Hitler might have seen and in practice I have had to remove Anyone that we have joined that has been an ex-communist or an ex-antifo, almost all of them, I would say nine out of 10 on a long enough timeline, we've had to remove them because they have antisocial personalities.
They have personalities that are not congruent with our worldview, not congruent.
Even if they understand the ideology, their natural personality is more inclined towards the other side.
And they don't have the character of a national socialist.
They might have the ideology, but not the character.
There are some exceptions to that, certainly, but nine times out of 10.
So does that answer the question?
You're muted.
Sorry.
It jives with my common sense intuition as well as experience.
You've got limited time.
Not to mention it's a security risk too.
Like somebody could say, yeah, I used to be that and I'm not.
And that maybe explains why I'm not there all the way.
And then there's also, of course, a difference between a white principled liberal, somebody here who voted for Obama or maybe was a Bernie bro versus somebody who is on a tranny forum or says white people don't.
Yeah.
The extremes are so far apart now.
Whereas I can understand in Hitler's time, you had German workers who were demoralized from the war that were presented with a Marxist doctrine about, well, we're going to give, I mean, I think about how Lenin and Trotsky conned the Russian people and they offered them work, land and bread.
And I think if you were relatively illiterate, if you were relatively in servitude of some, you know, big industrial complex, if you were, you know, the byproduct of the industrial revolution and you were not on the good end of it, and you were promised by a group of people work, land.
So yeah, I think it was work, work, bread, and land.
And you were starving.
Peace, land, and bread, I think.
Yep.
Because that is peace, land, and bread, I think.
Yeah, I think they might have changed that when they won the war, but yeah, sorry, when they lost the war after the First World War.
But I think that was the motto during the First World War, yes, peace, land, and bread.
And then I think it became work, land, and bread because there was so much unemployed.
But yeah, I can understand how people could be fooled or conned by that.
But there is nothing to be fooled or conned by anymore.
I mean, politics, politics is so extreme now that, yeah, I don't think there is much of an excuse.
And I really like those graphs that people, I know I have strong opinions about graphs.
We've seen all the graphs.
We don't need any more graphs.
But if there was a graph, if there was a graph that I would share with my normal friends, like the work colleagues and stuff, it's the graph that shows in-group and out-group morality and shows how the libtard or leftist ideology is about prioritizing the furthest thing from them and they have no affinity with the things closest to them.
And then our ideology is affinity to our own genes, our own family, our own culture, everything that's close to us.
And then we're less and less loyal to concepts the further they get away from who we are and what we are and what our goals and objectives are.
So when you see those graphs, and I think they are accurate graphs, you can quite clearly find that these people are severely mentally ill.
They're habitual traitors and they cannot help themselves.
They are what they are.
They're the genetic waste of our society.
And if they burn themselves alive because of their mental illness, I don't think there's anything we can do to help them.
I have a very strong stance on this.
I'll keep it kind of, you know, medium, you know, for the audience.
But if I was on my own stream without, you know, the fathers and sons watching, I would be saying some things about this individual.
That was just so well put.
I'm putting that rant about them on my, I shouldn't call it a rant.
That was very well put about why the left is not, you know, fertile recruiting ground.
That's going on my soundboard, sir.
Yep.
Well, this whole idea of like, like principled leftists, like those, those quote-unquote principal leftists, they're still prioritizing pornography.
They're still prioritizing Star Wars.
They're still prioritizing drugs.
They like, okay, oh, they want better wages.
Okay.
Yeah.
They want better wages so they can buy more drugs.
Like these aren't people to recruit from.
Like this is this is the most like you have to be fundamentally retarded to think that drawing from the left, because at one time, maybe some people that supported Bernie are here with us now.
Like that, it's like you, you, you look at like four people compared to the rest of them.
Like all of Antifa is pro-Bernie.
They're all of them are.
All of them.
Once upon a time, let's say in those, the era when the German National Socialists or before that time, the working class was discovering that, well, first of all, that they were a class, which emerged from the industrial era, but then they also discovered that they had power with the labor unions and things like that.
So socialism in that context made sense.
And probably all of us here would be socialists in that kind of a context.
But now the left is not about the working class at all.
You know, they don't cater to the union worker and stuff like that in this country the way they once did, like in the 70s and 80s, maybe.
Now the white working class supports Trump.
Yeah, after becoming pro-white, that was the only only ideological change was getting more liberal or leftist or more social on economics and inequality and stuff because it's the Republican line about, you know, free market capitalism.
It's it's garbage.
We know how it works now and we have ample evidence of it.
I have to do this.
I go ahead, Rob.
But just the last point on that is we've seen the memos that show that these, you know, these pro-labor union companies, they want to bring in brown people because they don't want to form unions.
We know that the union parties are not pro-union.
They're not pro-workers.
They're pro your replacement.
And to think that you can recruit from people that will go out and hold up the refugees' welcome signs.
Like you like, there, I know where there's some good bridges and they're really high up and you know, just fill in the blanks.
The left, the left is the ultra-rich and the non-white scumbag poor.
That's the left now.
Essentially, coalition of the fringes.
Yeah.
Yes.
Middle American radicals getting squeezed in between.
We have, I have to do this.
We have a special bit.
It's for Tom or in honor of Tom, but he can't answer.
And it's called Who Said It?
And it's either going to be Seoul or Sewell.
So I've got some up here.
Credit, credit to our pal, TK.
I think he was the one who came up with the idea.
So you guys, I mean, don't you dare?
I don't know.
Maybe he's like, I don't know.
I don't remember saying that, but we'll see.
So who said it?
Seoul or Sewell?
In a healthy society, the working class aren't responsible for the direction of society, nor the advancement of culture.
Anybody want to take a stab?
This was, I started with a tough one.
Oh, I thought you were asking Tom.
No, no, no.
Tom can't answer because he knows.
In a healthy society, the working class aren't responsible for the direction of society, nor the advance of the culture.
The black one said it.
Wrong.
That was Tom Stewell.
I thought you were trying to trick me.
All right.
Next one.
Most niggers were big mad.
Seoul or Sewell?
The worst one.
I don't think Thomas Sewell.
That was a gag one.
All right.
Let's see.
Here's a tough one.
When you want to help people, you tell them the truth.
Soul or Sewell?
Chris?
Chris, did you ever read any Seoul?
I have his book on the shelf, but I never read it.
Pick up one of his books.
I think I listened to one of his audio books in jail.
Didn't you interview him in your early podcast days?
You're thinking of Walter E. Williams is who I interviewed.
He was right before I rebranded the Sun Garbage Podcast to Radical Agenda.
Yeah, but every time, you know, people always get the two smart black guys in America mixed up.
I know.
So I'm going to go ahead and guess.
Wait, say that one more time.
When you want to help people, you tell them the truth.
I'm going to, it's a coin toss in my head.
I'm going to go ahead and say it's the Thomas Soul.
It's the game.
That was Thomas Soul, but that could have been Sewell.
Some of these, you're like, I could say that.
Exactly.
Go either way.
That's the bit.
Yeah.
Exactly.
The guys did the work.
They collected the quotes.
They're like, it's really easy to get soul quotes.
Tom takes a little bit.
Tom's.
I'm thinking that if it was a quote from our guest, that it would have to be more controversial than that is almost the thinking.
Not necessarily.
That first one, I felt like that really could have easily gone either way, as opposed to the second one.
I can't see the black.
Some of them are tricky.
Tom Sittner, like, you have me on the show and you're just going to have me sit here subjected to your little bit, coach.
Well, I got to go real quick.
Let's see.
Evil does not cast judgment over good.
Darkness does not cast judgment over light.
Seoul or Sewell?
Sewell.
White one.
Correct.
Bing, bing, bing.
Good job, guys.
This little faggot has never been involved in our org, never contacted our org, never assisted our org in any way.
Oh, come on.
That's not a soul.
That was Seoul.
Everyone knows that.
That's in basic economic.
That's the forward.
I think I'll stop there with the, it's not a gag, but the point, point being, not just that Tom.
Yeah, he was good.
One of Thomas Soule's good one is that the only, and this made me think of our Tom, is that the only way to tell the truth is either anonymously or posthumously, which was him giving a nod.
And, you know, he was writing way before these times.
And I know our Tom would probably say, you know, F that, you know, say it while you're alive.
Don't say it under a pseudonym or after you're after you're dead.
I got a question for Tom in that vein.
You know, I know that at least stateside, I don't know how much, how prevalent it would be in Australia.
Are you confused with Thomas Sowell from time to time when you are verbally introduced?
And have you ever tried to take advantage of that confusion?
I have never been confused in Australia.
It's mostly an American thing.
And the only time it's ever come up is I did an interview once and I talked about how when I was young, I Googled my own name for the first time and it said, are you sure you don't mean Thomas Sowell?
And I thought, who is this African?
What is going on here?
And that's the first time I discovered his teachings and the things he had said.
And I thought to myself at the time, as a young person, I got to work harder.
When I Google my name, it should come up with me.
And now it does come up with me.
And the police actually mentioned that in court and said that Thomas Sewell has delusions of grandeur and sees his life mission as being to be more popular and more Googleable than Thomas Sowell.
And obviously, and the counterterrorism must watch all my streams because I don't even remember what stream I said that on, but I've said that at some point.
And they brought that up in court when they were character assassinating me.
And I think the judge just said something like, I don't think Thomas Sewell is on trial for his political views.
They were like, of course he is, Judge.
What's the whole point of this?
And that's where that quote came out as well, where the police said that Mr. Sewell describes himself as a political soldier for Adolf Hitler or a political soldier for the white race and Adolf Hitler is his leader.
Sounds like the meeting.
So they were just.
We got to have an event in the United States with Tom Cobb and we'll just allow people to think it's Thomas Sowell.
Really let it rip.
No, it is kind of thrilling to realize that on this show and Chris's show and anything that Tom goes on, that not just the state, but the enemy expend so much time listening to our stuff when you see the doxes and the corkboards that you imagine them having on the wall.
It does tell you something, the amount of time and effort that they put into just listening to us and analyzing us and reaching for one thing to grab at.
I don't want to do cheap current events with you, Tom, while we have you for however many more minutes this hour.
So I don't know whether I want to go to the guy who burned himself to death, the dancing college girls from Louisiana, or the abortion question or the makeup question that you waded into.
Let's do it all.
So the one that I'm most passionate about and I have the strongest opinions on is the guy who burnt himself to death, who was by all regards a far left radical anti-fub, possibly, you know, dabbling with trannyism, who burned to death.
Who burned himself to death for the Palestinians, Free Palestine, Free Palestine, one of the, I won't go into the cruel memes, but I saw some of our guys, minority, but not insignificant, semi-honoring him, lionizing him, saying, he's done more to fight the Zionist menace than you ever have, podcaster.
And I just wanted to say, no, he didn't.
Would you do that?
Would you recommend your kids do that?
Would you recommend one of our guys do that?
I can do the cynical thing where a guy, where an enemy of ours, a racial enemy of the white race, even though he's under the roof in theory, burns himself to death to bring bad press to Israel.
But I'll stop there.
Your reaction to the air force sergeant who burned himself to death.
Yeah, what i'll say first of all, on all three subjects, so we've got the anti-zionist, anti-zionist leftoid burning himself alive.
We've got the abortion question, or specifically the down syndrome question, and we've got the uh.
I think the video you're talking about is the teenage girls dancing with the lead cups in the African.
There's that and that goes in tandem with uh, there will be no makeup in the eth, in the Ethnos.
Yeah, just so.
Basically, what we've got is three questions.
We've got the anti-zionist horseshoe, we've got the um anti-makeup and we've got the anti-down syndrome or abortion.
So we've got three big topics.
What I have, in congruence with all three topics, across the board, what you'll hear from me, no matter what the subject is, is cruelty.
You'll hear cruelty from me.
I am cruel and uh, a lot of people don't like me because of that reason.
I cop a lot of flack on um twitter, especially because i'm cruel and I say some things that hurt the uh, I guess, the kindness of people and the altruism of people, and I, I am cruel.
Unfortunately, I am what I am.
I didn't decide to be cruel.
I'm cruel because I guess the universe has been cruel to me and I uh treat uh, you know, I kind of react in a way that the way that i'm a product of this.
You know, the universe is cruel.
Um, life is cruel, life is harsh, and we're in a race war where there's 1.4 billion Indians trying to conquer my country, there's 1.4 billion Chinese trying to conquer my country.
The Jews have infiltrated every system of power they can and they're destroying my people, and so i'm, i'm just cruel, i'm just like we have to win and uh, i'll win.
Uh, even if we lose an element of our white altruism I think our altruism needs to be modified and even if we have to take the white public kicking and screaming um towards uh, you know, a white utopia.
Um, that's what you have to do unfortunately, to people in a golden cage.
That's what you have to do to people that have addiction.
Um, you have to be cruel, and I think there's a cruelness to traditional masculinity.
Um and uh, if I address specifically the first one, I can go through all three.
If I address the first one, I noticed, I think Nick Fluentes was defending him a little bit.
There's a few other podcasters that were defending and and kind of.
I think the word is, is it lionizing?
Is that the correct word?
It's not idolizing, but it's like lionizing yeah, giving them a lot, a lot of uh, honorable credit, more or less, yeah.
So what these people have, that I, what these people have, that's different to me.
Like Nick Fuentes and a lot of these other podcasters I noticed Asher Logos made some sort of middle ground comments as well and I have a lot of respect for the guy and i've had good interactions with him and have a lot of respect for the work he does but what a lot of these content makers and youtubers and um podcasters.
What they have different to me and this is not an attack on you guys whatsoever, whatsoever, but especially like people like Nick Fuentes is they don't have much real world experience with the movement.
They have a lot of internet experience with the movement.
They haven't been to jail.
They haven't been firebombed.
They haven't been attacked.
They haven't lost the way that I've lost.
And when you are confronted by this leftist ideology that hates white people, it absolutely hates white people.
This guy, I went through his tweets, I went through his Reddits, whatever it was, and he hates white people.
He wants white people to die.
He wants white people to be conquered by brown people.
He is a disgusting, evil traitor.
And he's obviously severely mentally ill.
And that is sad.
I can have empathy.
I understand that that is sad as a concept.
But what I also believe is we can't save everyone.
I don't think we can save everyone in this.
There's unfortunately a lot of fat and meat for the grinder.
And we're in a spiritual and racial anarchy in the way that our race, there's hundreds of millions of white people, but without, but because we've been so debased, we've been so removed from our roots and from our spirit, both top down and bottom up.
We're so removed.
We're floating in the middle.
And in that process, there's so many people that are lost.
And that's very, very sad.
And we want to save as many people as we can, but we can really only save those that are already leaning into it.
Hitler says, German people, save yourselves, save yourselves.
And this guy could not be saved.
This is beyond, this person is beyond redemption.
And he has died at the altar of anti-Zionism because he hates for the wrong reasons.
So when this is my final point on this subject, there is a horseshoe theory.
Of course, there are times where we align with the far left, but for opposite reasons, for opposite reasons.
So they're anti-Zionist and we're anti-Zionist, but they're anti-Zionist because they're anti-white.
They're anti-colonialism.
They're anti-the system of power.
And they think, well, it's obviously the Jews are the system of power, but they believe that in the case of Israel and Palestine, it's a simple gay brown Bolshevik ideology where they believe brown people equals good and fairer skinned people equals bad.
And that's why they're against Israel.
We're obviously, I'm preaching the choir, but the audience obviously needs to be clarified that we are also anti-Zionists for the opposite reasons.
We're anti-Zionists because the Jews have subverted our society.
They're the primary culprit for the destruction of the white race, culturally, racially, socially, legally, whatever you want to call it.
So we've come to the same conclusion for two opposite reasons.
And that is important.
The means are just as important as the ends.
And so, yeah, I will take the charge that I'm cruel.
I will take the charge that I'm not altruistic or as altruistic as maybe people think I should be.
I will take that charge because I'm a submarine commander.
We're in a war.
We've got a limited amount of time.
And I don't have, I can empathize and sympathize with people, but I'm certainly not going to change my course and my thoughts as to how to win based off that these unfortunate situations that continue to occur.
Strong cut.
Well, you know, I have seen, when I see people in our thing, like jumping on board with what I call them noble savage narratives, right?
They're like, oh, the Palestinians are the are the good guys.
And like, you know, I, you know, they, they have legitimate reasons to have problems with, you know, the state of Israel, obviously.
But it's like, you wouldn't want these people moving into your neighborhood.
Like these people are not your friends, you know?
And the idea that, you know, to put them up on a pedestal is like, you know, I'm happy for these people to kill each other.
Like, let them do that.
And when people are like, let's go, you know, team up with these people.
I'm like, have you, do you know who you're talking about spending time with?
I saw the libertarians do this.
You know, libertarians thought that they could make, you know, inroads with the left on various things.
And what they ended up doing was turning the libertarian movement into drug-induced homosexual anti-capitalism.
Like it was just complete nonsense.
And I'm like, I don't want to see us do that in the slightest.
Yeah.
I am a little bit more of a softie on the Palestinian question, Chris, only in the sense of justice, common enemy, etc.
And they have legitimate axes to grind.
I almost want to ask whether there's an argument for Zionism only insofar as it becomes the place where they all go.
And then they can deal with their own neighborhood issues without American support.
Obviously, they have nukes, but that's probably canned arms too big.
Go ahead, Sam.
It's curious, you know, that as they say, politics make strange bed fellows.
And when you think of these Muslim Palestinians or even the Christian ones there, these would be among the most conservative people.
They would have in no way would their values align with the Antifa left, right?
And then, and then you have the new left or the radical left compared to like the old-time liberals, like boomer liberals.
None of these three things could possibly have any commonality with each other.
But there they are, all the left, we call them, you know, but they're all they're all in no way able to take any of each other's sides in this.
Well, it's coming back to bite Biden in the ass a little bit, at least among the Muslim voting population of America.
Serious dad question, Tom, is the abortion question with respect to Down syndrome babies.
I know Sam would be against it 100%.
I've previously expressed that in that case, I would actually leave it up to the parents because there are high-functioning Down syndrome babies.
I assume that you in the Sewell ethnostate, they would not be born.
Not trying to trip you up, but if I caught that right on Twitter, you know, you were going hard on the, it's all right, we're not recording the video.
So that's right.
Cheers.
It's not a gotcha, but a serious question.
Well, maybe I could maybe I could start and then he can he can think of how he wants to answer it.
I can understand the notion or the impetus somebody might have to answer it like the way you're describing.
I apologize.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Let's say not him.
Somebody else would say, no, we're not going to have those people.
And maybe that's born of kind of the desperate situation like he talked about, the necessity, unfortunately, to be cruel and the sort of very stark measures that we have to envision and things like that.
But in a different type of time, maybe not even that much of a different time.
I mean, I know, let's say, large Christian families and they have a child where there's a problem, such as Down syndrome or something else.
That child finds its place in the family and the family loves that child and love grows.
You know, when we talk about having large families, some people will object and say, well, if I have one child, now two, every second, third, fourth child, I'm dividing up the love in the family.
I want to give all the time to the fewer children, where I would say that you multiply, you don't divide, you multiply the love when you have more children.
And in the right type of situation, even a child that has a problem like that finds his place in the family.
And it is a hallmark of our people to be compassionate and to love in that way.
But, you know, like what Tom has been through or some of us have known the cruelty of the world done to us.
I can understand maybe that kind of a first place reaction to say, oh, yeah, well, we would abort those children.
But no, I would be against aborting those children.
And I think that those children don't, like I'm describing to you, the large family.
And I've known some families like that.
That child does not take away from anybody.
But by aborting that child or not loving that child, I think that does take away.
Have that, Tommy, boy.
If I could be so glib.
Yeah.
Thank you, Sam.
Yeah.
Yeah, I have a lot to say on the subject.
And it's hard to give you, you know, if I was asked simply a yes or a no, if it was just the shortest possible answer, it would be yes.
In my personal circumstance, that's what I would do.
I am against abortion in general.
And I know that there's an argument that's always made.
Oh, well, what about rape and what about incest?
And, you know, that's a leftist, the left will always use those kind of talking points where they'll say, oh, well, you're against abortion.
Well, what if your wife was raped?
Well, I know a lot of Christians that will say, well, you know, that was God's plan or that's a horrible circumstance, but a baby shouldn't have to die or suffer.
And a lot of people focus on the exceptions instead of the rule.
And I try to focus on the rules.
And, you know, we can worry about the exceptions later, but we should at least find some common ground with the rules.
And I'm on the same side as Christians in that sense, even though I'm a pagan, I'm on the same side on the abortion question that as a general rule, I'm against, I believe that it's disgusting, immoral.
We need to bring about conditions that save the white race.
We're being genocided because the government and the system and the media are bringing about conditions that are destroying our birth rate and destroying our harmony and the harmony of our wives and our economic stability and all these other things that are factors.
Sorry, Rolo, you're putting your hand up.
Is there something?
No, I want to go next.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, we're good.
Oh, all right.
I'll try to make it faster then.
Yeah, so obviously you're asking a lot of questions.
The short answer is yes, I would do it.
The short answer is yes.
If I was in power in a country and I was the prime minister or president or groupenfuhrer, whatever it's called, I would, in the Sewell ethno state, I would allow people to do that on the grounds that they have Down syndrome.
And the main reason for that is I see the heights that our race can get to.
I see what we can create through eugenic process and eugenic focus.
And I think we need to balance folkism and elitism.
I've done streams on this subject before where I think there's nothing wrong with being an elitist.
Obviously, there's a cruelty that's attached to it, but we need to balance that with folkism or what Hitler described as socialism.
Obviously, we don't use that word.
It's a bit of a dirty word 100 years later.
But I call it folkism.
We need to balance folkism and elitism.
And that's that love and altruism and care for our own people.
I just draw the line in the sand when it comes to genetic, like very clear and obvious genetic deficiencies.
I got into a short argument at work with one of the guys because he said, well, I've got eczema or one of the guys has like an intolerance, like a gluten intolerance or something.
Would I, should I be aborted or something?
And I was like, no, I think that's more environmental.
I think that could be to do with diet.
I think that you've got a genetic proneness perhaps to this issue, but I don't see that as being crossing the line in the sand where I think anyone should have the right to kill you.
Like your mother's like, oh, he's going to get eczema.
I don't want to live in that world.
I don't want to live in that world where I think the movie is called Gattaca.
I know there's lots of movies like this, but I think the movie's Gattaca, where they start selectively doing the chromosome.
I think we shouldn't play God.
I don't believe we should play God in that sense where we're, oh, I want my child to have blue eyes.
It's like, well, if you don't have blue eyes and if your wife doesn't have blue eyes, have 10 kids and maybe one of them is going to have blue eyes.
You get lucky.
But I don't think we should be allowed to do that.
I don't think that that's going to lead to a healthy, spiritually healthy society.
It certainly leads to a more eugenic society at the cost of the spirit.
So I can empathize certainly with the Christian position, even though I'm not a Christian, because ultimately, when you're looking at eugenic advancement, there is a potential cost, you know, risk cost analysis.
And the cost is, you know, to the spirit or what is at least determined as being a spiritual matter to you're killing love.
You're killing God's plan.
You're killing something.
Again, I'm not a Christian.
I believe that we can, that man is given the free will to make these tough decisions.
And I do agree with your sentiment that there can still be a lot of love or even extra love in the case of a Down syndrome child.
I just think that I believe that it would take away from the energy of the state.
It would take away from the energy of the folk, the race, the family, the mother, the father, the other children.
And it would set a precedence.
You know, I can see the Christian perspective that, well, you don't know what God's plan is.
You don't know what that Down syndrome child is going to turn into and what role he's going to play and that butterfly effect.
You know, you keep that Down syndrome and five years, 20 years, 50 years down the track, something happens that wouldn't have happened.
And that was God's plan all along.
I can kind of see that perspective.
I would just take the risk.
I would just take the risk and I'd just be cool to be kind and just my version of God.
Eugenics can be understood in a different way, which is maybe with our science, we can determine how to prevent these types of things or lessen these types of things from happening rather than, you know, when you use the word eugenics, maybe many people imagine that means killing those we consider defective or lesser than ourselves.
And I don't think it needs to be defined that way.
Over to Rolo.
And I just want to point out for the audience's benefit that Tom is drinking a gigantic glass of what I'm sure is whole milk.
I don't think it's, it didn't look like raw milk to me that his wife delivered to him.
So it is raw milk.
It is raw milk.
It is raw milk.
All right.
You're doing the whole bit.
Go ahead, Rolo.
And then I got one more for you, Tom.
It's Friday night.
You've been a champ.
I don't want to keep you from your family or your lads too much longer.
Go ahead, Rolo.
Well, to all the people that think abortion is a good thing, because think about how many blacks have been killed.
Oh, it's keeping the black population in check.
Blacks keep the black population in check.
The black population didn't have like a steep die-off when abortion became legal.
It's pretty much been the same.
The only thing that went down was the white population.
Just by making abortion okay, it's just enabled people to say, well, you know, what if I'm not ready to raise this baby?
All right.
Well, yeah, I'll just have an abortion.
That's no problem.
Well, and the doctors say it might have Down syndrome.
And there's a lot of that where they tell people that their baby might have autism or Down syndrome or something.
And then they just abort it.
And it's just, there's a chance it might not.
Yeah, it's not, sorry, you're going to have a retarded mongoloid.
No, they just say there's a chance.
And there's, there's such a lax attitude on it.
And it really has only affected white birth rates.
Fair enough.
Last question for me, Tom, and it's the sort of third part of that triad, which is the very real culture war.
And, you know, I don't care about some stupid social media thing with the girls dancing.
I'm sure you saw it on Twitter where they're like, you know, all white girls doing a slightly ooga booga dance at a gas station, but they're all white.
They don't appear particularly intoxicated.
And there's nothing too nasty going on there.
Plus the makeup thing.
I'll just throw out there that it's a question of perceived Puritanism.
You know, there's a cost to going, to coming across as like the grand inquisitor of culture right now, as opposed to saying they're not dancing to WAP with a bunch of greasy gorillas around them.
They look like more or less sober white girls having fun like Flash Mob.
That and the makeup thing, and at least your approach to talking about serious culture.
It's like, it's not a beautiful video.
I'm not happy.
I wouldn't be happy if my daughter were there, but it didn't get my knickers in a bunch.
Whatever you want to share on that.
Yeah, I think that video was horrendous.
Obviously, it could have been worse, but I come at it from the other angle that, you know, what would Hitler think?
What would Hitler do?
I know Hitler's opinions on jazz music and I didn't even think about jazz music until reading Mein Kanf.
I never even considered it degenerate.
And then looking back on it, it's like, well, of course it was considering what Hitler was growing up with with Wagner and the classical music and all this stuff.
So, of course, jazz music was negro-fied music compared to what the Aryan soul was producing.
And likewise, we can see the system in decay.
And yeah, it could be a lot worse, but what we're seeing is a rootless people, a cultureless people.
And it was, it was, I was hurt by it.
I was very, it was extremely, it attacked me at my core in the sense watching these girls.
And I could see, I can see why there was all the rage on the internet about it.
If you're a young man and you're single and you don't have children or you're not, you know, in the process of doing that and you're looking for a partner and you've got to tolerate this, like this is what the average girl in society is doing and it thinks is normal and cool and popular, you know, you would be like, you'd be infuriated by that concept.
So I can empathize with the young white men that saw that and felt disgusted by it.
But the white pill that I'll give those young white men is that likewise without national socialism or the pro-white movement, without positive influences online and in real life, I'm sure you would be behaving even more degenerate than you currently are.
And likewise, there would be white girls that would be disgusted by that behavior had you have gone down the wrong path.
So it's good to have standards.
It's good to have a disgust response.
I think one thing that the Jews are trying to groom out of us is our disgust response.
But what I would say is that when you take one of those girls and you show her the right path, you show her the right way and you dominate her in a social sense, in a cultural sense, whatever way that is appropriate, you're not going to have to deal with that problem in the future.
And where a lot of the problems came from in the online sphere when I made these makeup comments was that the way I speak about women comes from a place of love.
I love women.
If I hated women, I would be happy with the status quo because I'd be happy with high body counts.
I'd be happy with low self-esteem.
I'd be happy with low self-worth and self-image.
I'd be happy with all these things.
If I was a manipulator, if I was an Andrew Tate, if I was someone looking to take advantage and use women, I would be happy with the status quo because those people hate women.
And I love women.
I want women to be better.
And I love men in the sense that I want men to be better.
I love our race ultimately.
And the race breaks down into two primary components, male and female.
That's just, that's natural law.
You've got the race, you've got the racial body, and you've got the male and female of the race.
And so I come from a place of love.
And again, I'm cruel.
I'm cruel.
And I'm cruel to be kind.
So my position, my frustration at a very small section of the community, I think 90 plus percent of the people that I was seeing in the comment section were in agreeance with me to some capacity, understanding what I was saying in theory.
And there's a 10% that completely misconstrued what I was saying as an opportunity to sort of jump on my back and try and tear me down.
I don't think it came from a good place.
I don't think it came from good faith.
And what I saw was a woman put up a post about big titty goth GFs in the ethno state as some stupid, cheeky, silly post for her own self-promotion because she used the caption to promote her own photos of herself.
And I patrolled her.
It's called the thought patrol.
And it's what you do when you don't tolerate the kind of the thoughts in the movement.
I see a lot of women in the movement that are not in the movement for the right reasons.
I'm not accusing this girl of that in general.
I'm saying that these examples of her behavior are negative.
What I'm seeing is a lot of relatively pretty girls putting on siege masks and begging for male attention.
They don't have children.
They don't have families.
They're surrounded by men.
They're in a male-dominated space, a male culture.
It's 10 to one or 20 to one or 30 to one in these spaces, and yet they still don't have a husband.
So in normal society, you have a husband when it's one-on-one.
When it's one man, one woman, it's 50-50 more or less.
So how can you not find a husband when it's 50-on-one?
I mean, the odds are stacked in their favor.
They've got the pick of the litter and they're monkey branching, they're hypergamous.
They won't settle down.
They won't have children.
Some of these women have been in the movement for literally a decade.
They still don't have a husband.
So these are problem-toxic women.
That's the reality of it.
If I joined the volleyball team and it's 50 chicks and me and I didn't get a wife within a year, there would be something wrong with me.
There would be something, I'd be gay or I'd be a womanizer or I'd be, you know, it would be some toxic trait.
And if a girl in that community said, I don't think Tom's involved in the female volleyball team for the right reason, I think he's here for toxic reasons.
If some girl said that and then a bunch of pick me's in the volleyball team said, oh my God, Tomet, you are so toxic and you hate men.
It's obvious you hate men.
Why do you hate men?
You know, if the girls jumped on her back because she had the balls to call out my behavior, you know, what a bizarre scenario that would be.
But that's what I faced over the last couple of weeks because of my comments.
And, you know, again, I don't want to get in the nitty-gritty of the makeup section, but what I was saying was simply that in the future, and especially with my own daughters, you know, I've got one that I'm sure there's more on the way and granddaughters.
I don't want them wearing makeup.
I want them being happy with who they are.
If they put on a little bit here and there for a special event, I'm not, I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to cry over it.
But ultimately, I want, I want them.
I don't want big titty goth GFs in the ethnostate.
I don't want it.
I think it's toxic.
I think it's cancerous.
I don't want big titty goth GFs.
I just don't want it.
I don't want it in the ethnostate.
I would much rather women not have makeup.
And so they make a cheeky remark.
I make a cheeky remark.
Nobody bites off their head.
I'm the only one that says, no, I don't want this.
And then people bite my head off for saying, how dare you patrol that thought?
And it's like, well, someone had to do it.
Someone had to put her in her place.
You're not going to be on Twitter forever.
I'll say for the audience, I think my wife looks more beautiful without makeup than with.
Although if my daughter wants to put on a little rouge or lipstick someday, I'm not going to freak out about that.
It's just out of balance in our society.
You know, we need less of all that kind of a thing.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And I believe, I believe that we get the balance by going hard the other way.
There's a lot of, there's a lot of room to make up.
I don't think we find balance through compromise because things are so far out of whack.
Things are so upside down.
I don't think we get back to where they need to be.
You know, I believe in the heart of the deal.
If you say, well, this is my line in the sand and yeah, I am prepared to die on it.
Then they're going to come a lot closer to your line than if you make some halfway point saying, well, two coats of makeup is okay, but three coats is pushing it up.
No, no, no.
I don't think that's how we parent people.
I don't think that's how we make a society.
I don't think that's how we raise the next generation.
I think that, you know, we need to, if we do, if we are looking for a compromise, we need to come from a position of strength.
And I believe that politically.
I believe that in leadership.
I believe that in a lot of different social forms.
You know, in that, in that vein, I mean, I've been trying to sort of formulate this as we've gone through it.
So pardon me as I stumble a little bit, but you've brought up several times.
You're cruel.
You think that that's an important component.
And I don't disagree with that.
And what you just said about the, you don't get what you want by coming at it from a compromise, essentially, right?
Like, do you see I, I'm sorry.
The, I used to come at things from a perspective of what you need to do is you need to go shock these people out of their slumber was my attitude, right?
And I did a lot of that.
And I think I accomplished a lot doing it.
And I came to the conclusion that there were limits on how much I could accomplish that way.
And I've been trying with not the greatest level of success to see, to try to, shall we say, dial it up and down according to the situation, trying to find a bit of nuance.
And I can't say that I've managed to do that very well, but that's the theory that I'm working with now is that, you know, when you approach people in a way that you're not going to.
It does is what I'm getting at.
So like, you know, you approach certain people and you're like, hey, this is the way it needs to be.
And they're like, well, screw you, buddy.
I got better things to do with my life than get barked at by you.
Right.
And then other people, you know, you can approach them that way.
And they're like, wow, nobody's ever approached me like that before.
And that's exactly what I needed.
And so I think that you might turn around and say it's obvious.
I don't know.
But I mean, I'll give you a chance to sort of respond to that nuanced question, if you will.
Yeah, well, I'll respond in an example and I'll keep my voice down a little bit because the nurses is in another room.
But, you know, I'm sure Coach and Roller will appreciate this one because they like talking about dating and picking up and stuff like this in their spare time.
But there was an example maybe half a decade ago.
And I was at the club.
I was actually designated driver.
So I just went out with the young guys to the bar and I said, I'll drive the LPG out and, you know, I'll have maybe, maybe I have a beer, but I'm not going to get wasted like you guys.
And I was just standing there having my first beer and a girl came up to me and she was quite young, quite attractive, and she started grinding on me.
And I'm just standing there minding my own business.
And she turned around and said, what's wrong?
And I just kept staring off onto the dance floor.
I just ignored her.
And she said, what's your problem?
What's wrong?
Don't you like it?
And I just said to her, why don't you show some respect for yourself?
And she just stopped what she was doing and she was like, I cannot believe you just said that.
No one has ever said that to me before.
And I said, you should show some respect for yourself.
I'm not attracted by that.
I find that revolting.
Even if I was drunk, I would still find it pretty revolting.
Like, show some respect for yourself.
She basically started crying and asked if we could go talk outside.
And I said, yeah, okay, we'll talk outside.
And then she bought me another drink.
And then she just started saying to me, like, I think I've been hanging out with losers.
And I think that's what they like.
And I think that's why I did it.
And I apologize.
And I was like, that's fine.
That's okay.
I just don't think that that's how you should behave.
And you seem to get it.
And yeah, it's cool.
We can get along now.
And we just had a, I had a chat.
And I just said to her, honestly, I don't really want to be here.
I'm only here because I'm designated driving and rah, rah, rah.
And we got along pretty well.
And I won't tell the rest of the story.
But the point is, is that the point is, is that I think especially with women, they need to be shocked out of reality.
And if they run away, they run away.
It doesn't matter.
If she said, well, you're a pig and slap me, I wouldn't even care.
It wouldn't even bother me.
And, but, you know, truth hits people hard when they know it's truth.
And the guy that says, I don't have time for this.
I don't want someone barking orders at me.
They're either never going to join you anyway, in my opinion, or you've at least planted a seed that will change their behavior.
I've had a few examples in my life where I've come across other people and they've been quite aggressive towards me in their rhetoric.
Not in the online Twitter sphere, I just mean in my personal development as a young man, where I've had people say things to me that have cut me quite deep.
And I've initially rejected them.
I've initially gone, oh, F you, F this, you know, you want to go, da, And then a year or two will go by and that seed is still sitting there and it's still, you know, kind of biting at me.
And I'm like, you know, actually, I do feel, I do feel that there's some flaw in my character, or I do, I have the introspection and the self-respect and the honesty.
And I think when you're talking about politics, you, you know, you can get people that initially reject you, but the truth is the truth.
And I think it will always stand the test of time.
So I agree.
It's, I think the biggest thing, I 100% agree with your sentiment in the sense that it's not good propaganda.
It's not good controlling of the masses.
It's not good at getting the world view out in the immediate.
But I behave in a way that's innate to me.
I don't really police myself in many regards.
I don't try to concoct a method in any regards.
I'm not actually as strategic as I might come across as.
I just do what's innate to me and come what may.
And I think a lot of people have this expectation of myself and other spokespeople in the movement that they have to be this kind of this messiah type or they have to know all the correct answers and say all the correct things and never touch on anything that's outside of the scope of saving the white race or what they view as the as the version of saving the white race.
And I don't like that because I'm just me.
I'm Thomas Sewell.
And if I'm, I don't see myself as some messiah type.
I'm inherently flawed.
I'm not the perfect man.
I'm just here sharpening the sword, doing my duty.
And if you disagree with me, good.
you know, steel, sharpen steel, and let's keep going.
A little bit of inflighting is good.
A little bit of sparring.
There's a lot of sparring going on.
And what I just sorry, I'll finish here.
There's a lot of sparring that goes on every now and then with me.
I like a bit of sparring.
I like a fight.
I like a wrestle.
And then I move on.
And what I saw online was bad faith.
I didn't see people sparring with me.
There was some and that was good.
I appreciated that.
And it was back and forth.
But what I saw a lot of, I had people accusing me of hating women.
I had people accusing me of being an incel.
That was ridiculous.
I had someone, some cringe Twitter account that just, she just posts photos of herself wearing a siege mask, sort of pick me, you know, bullshit.
And she was saying that Adolf Hitler would be ashamed of me when I'm just, and I just quoted, quote in verse, Adolf Hitler and what he believed on makeup.
So just got wrecked.
But yeah, I'm an incel.
I hate women.
Adolf Hitler would be ashamed of me.
All this disgusting shit.
This is not in good faith.
You know what I mean?
So these people don't want to, they don't want to actually have a sparring match and sharpen their steel.
They'll watch the sparring match and then they'll come in with a knife and stab you in the side while you're having a, you know, having a bit of a duel.
So I like sparring.
I like fighting mentally, physically.
I think it makes us stronger.
And, but there were some nasty people.
There was that guy that made Hellstorm.
What's his name?
Renergy?
He was saying that I'm like an Islamist.
I'm a fed.
I'm a rapist.
He was saying all sorts of nasty shit.
And then it turns out, you know, he lets his wife have sex with other men.
So I'm, you know, not surprised to be honest.
But yeah, anyway.
Yep.
I just think that your answer with the examples, I think, was really good because it showed the nuance I'm looking for.
When the woman starts grinding you on the club, she's actually trying to please you is what she's attempting to do.
And you're firmly informing her that she's failed to do that.
And you help her to accomplish her goals is sort of like what you described to me.
When you're dealing with people who are actually acting in bad faith, that they're dishonest, that they're bad actors.
There's actually no negotiation to be had with them.
And then you just treat them badly.
I don't think that what you described with the woman was cruel at all, right?
You actually, you attempted to aid her with a firm response is what it seems like.
And I appreciate your clarification of the point.
It makes a lot of sense.
Her nickname was Terminator.
She said, you're like a Terminator.
And I thought that was pretty funny.
The boys laughed at that.
I'll take it.
Yeah.
Real quick, Tom, the thought occurred, you know, when it comes to planting those seeds and other people's minds or starting those fires, if you prefer.
Just a gardening analogy.
Not all the seeds take.
Not all of them grow up into beautiful tomato plants or whatever, but some of them do.
And the very first time I was confronted with or engaged with intellectual anti-Semitism, I was revolted.
I thought, what is this?
That's only for knuckle-draggers, but that seed planted.
And then the more I watched, it echoed around in my brain.
So you're not going to hit a home run with every single person.
That's life.
Some people are worthy of it.
Some people aren't.
And that goes full circle to some of the stuff we mentioned earlier.
It is Friday night in Australia.
It is early Friday morning or late Thursday night here in the States as you prefer.
Tom Sewell, thank you so much for your time.
Wish you many more babies.
And God bless you and the lads down there doing outstanding work.
Couldn't be, it sounds lame.
I'm not your father, but I couldn't be prouder of you.
I'll say it anyway.
Well, thanks, guys.
It's always a pleasure coming on.
It's great to speak with you, Chris, as well.
I've never spoken to you before.
I've really enjoyed speaking with you too.
Thank you.
Yeah.
It's a shame that you didn't get as much airtime as, well, I took up most of the airtime.
I didn't get a chance to ask you any questions.
But maybe next time we're on together, I would love to have you on my show.
We can do this for as long as you want one-on-one.
I'd love to do it.
Yeah.
Sounds good.
Well, I've got, just for the audience and for yourselves, I've got a stream coming up with Borjak and the South Africans.
I've got a stream coming up, a Twitter space coming up with some NASOC and white nationalist active clubs in the United States.
I'm trying to organize with a bunch of the guys that run different groups there because they have a lot of questions for me.
And I do a lot of mentoring with them one-on-one over like a telegram.
We might call and we might discuss strategy or SOPs for an hour.
And after each one, I always think to myself, I wish this was actually on air because there was nothing really OPSEC related that we discussed.
And we really just talked about how to lead an effective group.
And I think everyone should really hear that.
And it might get them more engaged and more thinking how to solve the problem.
And so we're going to do one of those as well.
And then I've got a bunch of other things coming up after that.
But certainly after those first two, the South Africans and the Active Club stream, certainly I'm free to get on the, what's it called now?
Your show?
I actually do two of them.
I'd want to have you on the radical agenda.
We go a little softer on the Monday show for the payment processors.
On the radical agenda, we don't have financial services anymore.
We can do whatever the heck we want.
Sounds good.
Well, I'll be available.
Yeah.
And I just appreciate the full house, guys, everything you're doing.
It's a great decorum you guys run with your show.
It's certainly something that is needed in the wider scene and something that I hope you have the energy.
And I hope that your supporters also feel the energy to keep you guys going.
It's always an honor to come on the show and I really enjoy it.
And I'm not just saying that.
You know, I do a lot of streams and this is probably one of my favorite ones in the sense that it's a good balance.
You even bring the humor out of me.
You know, you shut the terminator down for a bit and you actually try to make me funny and you had to go at me to start for not being funny.
And it's like, well, everything in this world can be made into something better.
That's what Alf Hitler said.
Maybe one day I'll be funny and I'll just keep trying.
And no, I really appreciate it.
It's great energy and it's great listening.
And I'll see you guys next time.
Amen.
God bless.
Hail Victory.
White Power.
Don't forget that one, too.
See you guys.
See you, bud.
Thanks a lot.
Dear this little one, you know.
See you guys.
That's right.
See you, bud.
All right.
Living legend, I'll say he's he's one of the best, if not the best that we got.
And I've, I've, I won't say that.
I've had many people say, man, I wish he were operating here.
So something to emulate for the audience.
Don't be, don't be a fanboy or a fangirl.
Channel it yourself, bunch of luggies.
It is late as hell.
Sam's going to roll into work like a wet dog tomorrow.
Let me go to Craig.
Chris, thank you so much for joining us.
It was, you know, it was spur of the moment, but I'm damn glad that you came on and fine blend.
You're used to being the Fuhrer, dictator, totalitarian, Mussolini, Hitler, and Franco all rolled into one on your own program.
But I thoroughly enjoyed this, as I do every time I get to come join you guys.
I want to echo Tom's sentiment that, you know, Full House is great and it's why I wanted to work with you guys.
And I'm really, I'm glad that you accepted the invitation.
And every time I come on here, I have a blast.
And I'm glad to hear that the episodes that I'm on get some rotation.
So thanks so much for inviting me.
You know, as I mentioned off the recording, I believe, you know, I really, I'm not that familiar with Tom.
I've heard his name.
I know that he's a big name guy.
You know, his name comes up from time to time.
What's that?
He was doing the main voice.
But he started to get big while you were still away too, Chris.
He was a telegram, Telegram phenomenon, at least here for a while.
And then, you know, got okay.
So while I was in prison, he, he, his star begins rising is for the guy.
His, his seed was germinating then.
Yep.
That, that makes sense because that, it does seem to me that the name stands out post-release.
So that's probably what has what has occurred.
And, but, but his name comes up, you know, you know, people mention, you know, Thomas Huill said this or that or, you know, and I, I see his name mentioned, but I haven't taken the time to familiarize myself.
And so it was, it was a really, I really enjoyed the opportunity to speak with him.
He's a really interesting, engaging guy and obviously been through the ringer.
So, you know, always got, uh, always got love for people who are, you know, have that, uh, have that under the belt, you know?
You bet, buddy.
Let's do this again.
Um, for sure, you're welcome on any time, but you do show three days a week.
Um, and sometimes you need a day off or whatever.
But anytime you want to come and hang out and just shoot the shit without any prep necessary, you are welcome.
Do go to surrealpolitics.com, sign up for Chris's platform.
You get all of his stuff, which is voluminous.
And then every once in a while, we do put some stuff behind the paywall.
Rolo is working on a project.
Sam has one thing I want to release publicly, openly, not behind the paywall.
The other one we will, but do it regardless.
Surrealpolitiks.com.
Thank you, Chris.
And Guplette, I'm proud of you too, by the way.
You know, I'll tell you one thing I'll just, since perhaps not everybody that listens to the show knows, it's, you know, when you sign up for surrealpolitiques.com, then they know about fullhousemembers.com, obviously.
But then, you know, ChristopherCantwell.net also.
So like surrealpolitiques.com, I can't have, you know, content that'll tick off the payment processors, right?
But then ChrisopherCantwell.net, I do have members only content there.
So like that's where, and one of the things that I think I'm going to start doing, I did one thing where I went on Omi TV, which is sort of like the Omegle successor.
And I think that I'm going to start doing those, you know, when I have nothing else to do.
And then that might be like ChristopherCantwell.net paywall content or something because I haven't done a whole lot of like uncensored paywall stuff.
We do the Wednesday member chats for Surreal Politics.
But what people are mostly paying for is really the radical agenda.
They want the uncensored content.
And so I got to give those people something and maybe that'll increase the appeal of the product.
And of course, they can use your code, Full House.
That's right.
They get 33% off for the first three months.
And then that credits you guys.
But even if they don't use the code, they can select your name as a dropdown, or there's a dropdown menu.
Even if they credit you.
So make sure if you're a full house listener and you sign up for the product, make sure you credit them either by using the code or by using the dropdown menu.
Preferably just do both in case any confusion.
But it's been working.
It's been working pretty well.
And I'm so glad about that because I'm really glad to be working with you guys.
It's an honor.
Thank you.
Right back at you, big guy.
Sammy, baby, over to you.
Hey, Coach, I told a couple of those bad jokes at the top of the show there.
Don't tell me you got more.
Well, actually, I'm looking at a website here and it has all leap year jokes.
So I'll just read one more.
What's a great thing about leap year jokes?
They only come once every four.
that you only hear them repeated at least four years.
Puts you to shame, Rolo.
Can't wait.
Some bad humor there.
Okay, well, Chris, could you just like come on our show and do drops?
You could just be like passively listening.
You know, I actually, it has occurred to me as the project I told you that I was working on before the show was actually like trying to make the drops easier to access.
Cause now I have like my soundboard has like 100 sounds on it or something like that.
I'm trying to like make them accessible to like scroll through them and stuff.
I'm like, if there was just somebody who was there to do that, it's like, you know, it's a good idea to have somebody doing that.
How often I'd be able to do it is another question.
No, no, no.
I'm joking.
But I'll tell you what, you know, it's like one of the things that crosses my mind.
I mean, you know, with my shows, I've been trying to figure out ways that I can do them with less show prep.
It's like, you know, for me to write my opening monologues, it takes all day, you know?
And so I'm like, well, anything that I can just sit down and do, you know, if I could just show up and be Chris, that's easy.
Like, I'll do that anytime, you know?
Sure.
No, I totally get it.
Yeah.
We do a show once a week at most.
And sometimes I'm bringing it down.
Yep.
Sam's got to go.
Okay.
Sometimes I'm down to the bottom.
I can kneel down in the corner over there and shoot myself in the head.
That would be cool.
That's Rolo.
Chris, you got the closing music, so don't go anywhere just yet.
Rolo, last thoughts, buddy.
Thank you so much for helping to make this happen.
You make it happen.
I can say that.
Thank you.
I actually want to finish on the guy who burned himself.
Do you remember the opening of Naked Gun 2, where they're honoring Frank Drebin for his 1000th drug dealer kill?
And he says, well, actually, the last two I ran over with my, or I backed over with my car, but fortunately they turned out to be drug dealers.
That's how I feel about, that's how I feel about all the leftists that are anti-Zionist.
They're not anti-Zionist because of the reasons they should be.
They're anti-Zionist because they see them as white people.
Right.
It's like you're cheering for people that hate white people.
Like you, you are colossally retarded.
And that's good.
I mean, like, like, well, I mean, it's better than them being philosophic.
That true statement is racist.
But, but it's not better because being anti-Jew because you hate white people means you're more likely to have an enemy than someone who likes white people, but also like an evangelical that likes Jews.
Because it's easier to get that person to realize the Jews are the enemy than it is to get a crazy Antifa to think that hates white people to like.
Yeah.
So, you know, but anyway, Naked Gun two and a half is a really funny movie.
But that joke, that's my favorite joke in any movie.
Yeah.
The biggest kudos I was willing to give him was cynically and saying, yes, you are a model anti-citizen for the Palestinians.
For killing him.
No, no, no.
The biggest kudos I give him is thank you for killing yourself.
That's what I can give him.
Sure.
Yeah.
One, one less enemy, to be perfectly honest, on the board.
All right.
Full house episode 180.
One of my favorites of all time.
I suspect I'll have to listen to it tomorrow when Rolo sends me the file.
It was recorded originally on the last day, February 29th, leap year 2024.
It is now March 1st.
We are almost into spring.
That means I got to get hopping on a good gardening and springtime.
Green thumb episode.
Thank you, Chris.
Thank you, of course, to Tom Sewell and his lovely family that will hopefully be ever expanding.
Sam, Rolo, the whole bit.
And I'll just say, you know, we love you, fam.
We'll talk to you next week for sure.
Got more stuff in the hopper.
And Chris, you can take us out this week.
Sam sent me like six or seven skinhead songs.
I couldn't just, some of them were profane.
So that kind of knocked him down.
I liked a couple of them that I couldn't decide, and then a couple I wasn't so keen.
But Chris, you were so kind to come on relatively last minute.
Whatever you want to play, it's all yours.
Whatever I want to play.
Or whatever you want to choose, Rollo will put it in and post, as we say in the business.
I'm trying to think of what I might, what comes to my mind is no face nate.
And I think that there's going to be a bunch of stuff in there that we wouldn't want to play on full house.
And so.
there's non-profane no nate no face nate songs and we actually no no nate face is Is The Die is Cast one of them?
Do you know?
I don't know.
Well, tell you what.
I'll look up Day as Cast.
at least have his first album saved in telegram somewhere uh and if yeah i can forward it to the uh to the fh 180 group right now And that's it.
You'll have it there.
And so if The Die is Cast is suitable for this production, then play that one.
And if not, then by all means, play something more appropriate.
I feel like we did this the last time where I was like, oh, we got to switch it up to wardrums or whatever.
Last time I asked for a rally and you were like, how about war drums?
And I was like, oh, okay.
That might have been my prayer.
I don't know if it was profanity or just like a good choice, but I like this one better.
Anyway, Chris, we'll go out with No Face Nate.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, audience, for hanging with us.
If you don't like this one, I don't know what to tell you.
Just stop listening.
Can't do much better.
Well, Sewell, Sam, Rollo, and perhaps yours truly.
We love you, fam.
We'll talk to you next week.
Sam, it's all yours.
See ya.
Pay presentation.
That's a wrap.
Raise that shield.
Phalanx on the battlefield.
Got a soul bond with the weapon I wield.
I'm not the kind of man to magically come up from not a whole lot.
I owe it all to Caesar and I'll take him back with all I've got.
Whole lot of new lands to add to the collection.
We'll get it with blood, sweat, and divine intervention.
Not to mention, new blood-related brother citizens will bring them to their knees to lift them up from what they're living in.
We do it for the children.
Not a one of us is faint-hearted.
Building onto what our father Robulus started.
Don't let anybody tell you we got hatred in our blood.
Everything we touch turns greater than it was.
All I know is conquest.
And all I think about is more.
And I'ma dream about his glory till I wake up in the morning.
No fears of the past or the present.
We're ahead of them.
Empire with the lifespan of a millennium.
It's eternal as the dirt that we go back to when we die.
Set in stone waiting for the young ones what they get grown.
Nowadays, soldiers are in short supply.
Can't fight with the zippy still, gotta ask why.
It's eternal as the dirt that we go back to when we die.
Set in stone, waiting for the young ones what they get grown.
Nowadays, soldiers are in short supply.
Can't fight with the zippy still, gotta ask why.
Hail victory, shout it with the fervor of a madman.
Everything I do is in the name of the fatherland.
I'm not the kind of man to magically come up from not a whole lot.
I owe it to the fur and I'll pay him back with all I got.
And last year I couldn't buy bread from my son.
This year the wife and I could think about another one.
I thought that we were dude to get swallowed up by the obstacles.
Now it's hard to not believe that anything's possible.
Smile as I'm watching all the filth and the smud burning.
Whoa, tied home and come back with the Germans.
High spots that are burning with the heroes and the martyrs.
Anybody want to party with us?
We can party harder.
Even if I die, it's with an iron cross on my chest.
Rex on my doorstep.
I can never dream of rest.
Fight it to the death.
Risk getting decimated.
I just hope that when my grandson's grown, he'll appreciate it.
It's eternal as the dirt that we go back to when we die.
Set in stone waiting for the young ones when they get grown.
Nowadays, soldiers are in short supply.
Can't fight with the sippy still, gotta ask why.
It's eternal as the dirt that we go back to when we die.
Set in stone, waiting for the young ones with the get-grown.
Nowadays, soldiers are in short supply.
Can't fight with the sippy still, gotta ask why.
How'd I get to this point?
When did I go so bad?
When do dead guys replace my long gone dad?
I'm not the kind of man who magically comes up from not a whole lot.
I owe it to my brothers and I'll pay it back with all I've got.
Never would have woken up if not for that frog.
Never look back, happy where I'm at with all my dogs.
Never be alone again.
I'm a soldier in an army, never lose hope.
Scars, healing eyes, permanently starring.
Couldn't talk to anybody, loneliness in pain.
Now my new friends are putting all my fake ones to shame.
Muscles getting bigger by the month and I'm boxing.
Xbox dipped and the books just walked in.
Looking back, I don't even know what I was doing.
Always knew that I was moving toward a life well ruined.
And it's crazy how I made it out the pork meat grinder.
But it's possible to play this song back as a reminder.
It's eternal as the dirt that we go back to when we die.
Set in stone, waiting for the young ones what they get grown.
Nowadays, soldiers are in short supply.
Can't fight with the sippy still, gotta ask why.
It's eternal as the dirt that we go back to when we die.
Set in stone, waiting for the young ones with the get-grown.
Nowadays, soldiers are in short supply.
Can't fight with the sippy still, gotta ask why.
It's eternal as the dirt that we go back to when we die.
Set in stone, waiting for the young ones what they get grown.
Nowadays, soldiers are in short supply.
Can't fight with the sippy still, gotta ask why.
It's eternal as the dirt that we go back to when we die.
Set in stone, waiting for the young ones when they get grown.
Nowadays, soldiers are in short supply.
Can't fight with the sippy still, gotta ask why.
From this day forward, I will never surrender responsibility for my life and deeds.
From this day forward, I prove myself through action.
I represent my ideals.
I carry myself as if the heroes of the past are watching, because they are.
From this day forward, with all of my effort, I will work, struggle, and pray towards a world where no man faces the forces of hell alone, physically, mentally, or spiritually.
From this day forward, I will hold myself to the highest standard and will accept nothing less from my peers forever and ever.