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Feb. 15, 2023 - Full Haus
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We welcome back another old friend and one of the original Birth Panelists to catch up on all things maturing fatherhood, friendship, stepping back, and maybe...coming back. Jayoh returns! Bumper: "Roll It Up" by The Crystal Method Break: "Geronimo" by Sheppard Close: "This Must Be the Place" by Brothertiger Go forth and multiply! Support Full Haus here or at givesendgo.com/FullHaus  Censorship-free Telegram commentary: https://t.me/prowhitefam2  Telegram channel with ALL shows available for easy download: https://t.me/fullhausshows  Gab.com/Fullhaus Odysee for special occasion livestreams and back library in the process of being uploaded. Full Haus syndicated on Amerikaner RSS: https://fullhaus.libsyn.com/rss All shows since Zencast (S) deplatforming: https://fullhaus.libsyn.com/ And of course, feel free to drop us a line with anything on your mind at fullhausshow@protonmail.com. We love ya fam, and we'll talk to you next week!

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We live in a sick and dying civilization where it's abundantly clear that all things good and noble and traditional are to be first discouraged, then punished, and ultimately stamped out.
From white racial solidarity to large healthy families, from self-reliance to self-defense, from homeschooling to devout religiosity, all our sources of strength are targeted for destruction by the Jewish masters and their minions.
When we come to this realization, either gradually or suddenly, our responses vary.
Some of us jump headfirst into the cause with righteous fury, but also a little impatience and naivete.
Others decide to get the hell out of the suck as quickly as feasible and head for the hills.
Still others take it all in stride and resolve to roll with the punches and engage with this hellscape as it is and not as they wish it to be.
And some of us have done all three.
If you're still alive and listening to this, however, you're doing much better than so many others who have succumbed to drugs or despair or even decided to kiss the ring of the hoof that feeds them.
But our worldview and politics are not for the faint-hearted as they come with heaps of risk, frustration, disappointment, and even sometimes betrayal.
The temptation to wash our hands of it all and return to so-called normalcy is often present.
This week, we are excited to welcome back another old friend and one of the original birth panelists to catch up on all things maturing fatherhood, friendship, stepping back, and maybe coming back.
So, mr producer, hit it.
Welcome everyone
to episode 151 of Full House, the world's longest running show for white fathers, aspiring ones and the whole bio fam.
I have no idea if that's true, but we're coming up on four years, so we're going with it.
And I am, as always, your trusty host, Coach Finstock, back with another probably two hours of the finest commentary fit to utter.
Before we meet the birth panel and our very special return guests, though, big thanks to Anonymous and Chug for their kind support of the show.
You guys know who you are.
And also in the ongoing Friendly Wagers series, our guest and I have a bet as to whether an American will set foot on the moon by the end of 2025, which is what the game plan calls for.
He says yes.
I say no.
We'll talk about it a little bit later, but these things make the news more interesting at least.
And finally, if you'd like to support our efforts, please visit us at gibsengo.com slash fullhouse or full-house.com and the support us tabs.
And with that, we will get cracking with the birth panel.
First up, I don't want to jinx it, but he and I may have pulled off one of the all-time great full house miracles that may be in the works.
Our rambling man, Sam.
Hey.
Hey, thank you.
It's good to be here, Coach.
I wanted to mention that by the time this episode comes out, it will probably be St. Valentine's Day, which is tomorrow.
I don't know if Rob will turn it around that quickly, hopefully does.
But I consider St. Valentine to be a patron saint of mine.
And of course, the patron saint of married love and especially Christian married love.
And so I just wanted to mention that briefly.
Absolutely.
I caught both of the older kids doing things in their bed, which sounds terrible, but I was like, what is going on?
They were clearly like conspiring and working on something in their bedroom.
And I suspect that they were making little Valentine's cards or projects for us.
So looking forward to see what they have cooked up for us.
And I'm serious, Sam, I don't want to jinx it.
So far as you know, is that special initiative that we did allude to for a listener's benefit?
Is that still possible?
Going forward.
Going forward is for, yeah, I don't want to jinx it by spilling the beans, but it's going forward.
We are going to be the cock of the walk if that happens.
But not that that's important.
Our pal getting help is more important.
All right.
Next up, he is unquestionably the world's greatest podcast producer, the greatest host of a globe-dominating program called The Final Storm.
He is the number one full house eligible bachelor, and we are going to keep doing this show until he meets that special someone, ties the knot and has kids.
So ladies, please help me out so I can retire and go back to being a normie, the great Rolo.
How are you, my friend?
Was that nice enough?
Yeah, it only took 50 episodes.
Are you going to be okay tonight?
Will you be able to get the shrope without having horrible insults once we, you know, the mic stop?
You know, when I first started podcasting, I used to write up at the top of all my notes, like, don't say um, don't, you know, don't say, you know.
Now it just says, be, be kind to Rolo at the top every single show.
Well, you know, that's a good change.
Yeah.
Anything at the top here, buddy, that is new in your world and fit to utter?
Nothing interesting.
And so I will not speak about my fight with a mouse that is eluding my mouse trap.
Somehow it found a way to eat all the peanut butter off of the trap without getting smashed.
Is it the Victor wooden traps, the old school ones?
No, it's one of them plastic ones that it's like more sensitive to touch than I am to your insults.
It's like really astounding how this creature is surviving.
But, you know, I'll be able to do that.
What about the adhesive?
They never escaped the adhesive.
Yeah, I got to get a glue trap.
But it's, I have a pretty good body count for mice in these things, but it's just this one.
It's like, it's learning.
Yeah, I can see the PETA listeners in the audience, all 500 of them, you know, opposing the adhesive.
It's a mouse, but it's just sitting there dying out.
The Victor ones, instant death with those jaws of finger-crushing strength.
And then you got the little poison things.
I've used all of them.
The Victor ones are pretty good, but I was so mechanically retarded that I set up the Victor ones wrong once and all the cheese and peanut butter was gone.
And I realized what I had done wrong.
You have to be pretty, pretty bad to mess up a Victor mousetrap.
All right.
Finally, our very special guest.
He was watching our dog once and freaked out, only to find her sleeping peacefully under the bed.
He once thought that he lost our daughter and freaked out, only to realize that she was gracefully dozing in our bed.
My swarthy Germanic brother from another mother, if he and I are ever in dire financial straits, we could also hit the tanning salon together and go stand outside the local Home Depot.
He is one of the full house OGs and someone who has possibly advised more friends and total strangers going through hard times than any of us.
JO is back.
Welcome back, my friend.
Smiling through the microphone.
Hey, it's good to be back.
A little bit of bad news.
I have the world's worst thesaurus.
Not only is it awful, it's also awful.
Oh, God.
You still got it.
Yeah.
See, you know, you're dealing with a professional when he always comes with a little bit of a canned one-liner dad joke at the very top.
I did, buddy.
I did share with the audience that I had to kick you dragging, right?
Drag you kicking and screaming back to the show.
But also, to be fair, your schedule has also been very discordant with ours.
And I think you got a lot of noise at home, good noise, family noise.
So you're recording somewhere else.
But how the hell are you, buddy?
It's been so long and, you know, just really looking forward to catching up.
I'm doing well.
Family's doing good.
I like my job.
Not a ton of a social life because me and everyone I knew IRL all moved in different directions, like sort of throughout COVID.
But no, man, I can't complain.
Like there, there were some rough spots throughout like all of the COVID stuff.
I had lost my job.
It shut down, et cetera.
Yeah, bounced back well, man.
Bounced back well.
Got into shape.
I don't know if I've been on since I quit smoking.
That's been almost two years.
Spending, you know, most of my time boxing.
Yeah, living it up.
Yeah, a little color for the audience.
It's no secret that JO lived with us for a spell.
Ah, it was 2017 thereabouts.
And he was a great, he was a great house guest in all sincerity.
There's a lot of like internet scuttle, but oh, JO, man of mystery, he's, he's done this, he's done that.
And I'm like, I don't know.
He was like a damn normal, great house guest.
He watched our kids.
When my wife went to the hospital to deliver our youngest, Jo was the home guard.
He single-handedly chased off a pit bull that was off the leash in our court.
And more often than not, I forgot about it.
I know you laid down the law on her.
I mean, we got stories for days, but just a couple of ones at the top of my head because I'm excited about it.
My biggest concern with Jo, of course, was him pacing the backyard, drinking a little bit of bourbon and smoking and recording the Alkright rises from our backyard.
I was like, if anything burns us, it's going to be this recording the Alkright rises from our backyard.
But it wasn't that good times.
And yeah, somebody asked, where can I find those episodes?
Possibly the wildest show of all times.
All right.
We got plenty of time to reminisce about the good old days and good days to come.
I am, of course, trying to recruit JO to relocate to my side of the Mississippi.
We'll say this, but he's got his eyes elsewhere in the country, the bastard.
Let's start with the hamburgler.
When you were on the show, you started the show when your wife was pregnant before he had arrived.
And then we did that awesome special with his sort of dramatic arrival.
And then the absolute pure joy and enthusiasm you had as a new father was really, was a gem when you were on the show.
So how is the, he's not even a little guy anymore.
And yeah, what's fatherhood like these days?
So it's great.
I'm still over the moon about him.
Like at my job, like I've heard so many times, like, I want somebody to talk about me the way he talks about his kid.
And like a bunch of the people just call me dad because I'm always cracking the dad jokes.
And like whenever everyone's going out, I say, sorry, I like you guys, but I like my son better.
And I just head home.
And I was trying to think of like some kind of anecdote or story to tell.
And while I'm trying to think of some kind of anecdote or story to tell, I'm like, wait, he's in the shower.
Two three-year-olds.
He's been, he's preferred showers since he's two years old.
He doesn't want to take a bath.
I hated taking showers.
Like I had to kind of have my arms twisted into it, but there's like the water gets in their eyes.
Yeah.
And he loves it.
And he, and he like, he'll turn his face toward it and he'll like blink at it, like, almost like it's like eating him up or something.
And then he'll laugh and turn around and just let it go in the back of the head for a second.
Then he'll turn back into it.
And yeah.
Potato still is like, I'll take it.
He takes baths and an occasional shower.
And I'm like, no, no, no, we're not doing a bath.
Just hop in here with me.
And he, you know, if water gets in his eyes, it's like the wicked witch of the west.
You know, I remember that same, that same thing when I was a young child.
I did not want to take a shower and was finally, you know, I don't know, may have been nine or 10 years old or something kind of older by the time I started doing that.
But yeah, you're right.
That makes me remember that.
We had two separate playgrounds at my elementary school.
The one side was kindergarten, first, second grade.
That was the little kids' playground.
And then third through six was the big kids' playground.
And my dad told me, you know, you can't go on the big kids' playground if you're still taking baths, right?
So like the summer between second and third grade, I like gutted it up and that's when I started taking showers.
Yeah.
I'll have to admit that I remember when my dad was like teaching me how to take a shower.
I remember seeing his ding-a-ling and feel, you know, like the height is like kind of unfortunate at that age.
Yeah.
You're right there.
Yeah.
But it's all, it's all good.
So I have to ask JO not to be greedy or too probing, but is number two a possibility in the works in the cars?
Region.
All right.
We were just kind of waiting to recover from all of the loss and stuff from COVID and then maybe take a little bit to not just recover and then immediately go into that.
Right.
Yep.
Right.
Like give ourselves a little bit of time to breathe and not be panicking about bills constantly.
And then we can get that show on the road.
Good stuff, man.
Good luck.
Still, yeah.
I mean, it's been so long since we've seen each other.
I still have not met your little guy.
I haven't seen you guys in years.
But if I had a nickel, I said this previous show.
If I had a nickel for everybody who asked about Cantwell and said they had a soft spot for him, I'd be moderately wealthy.
And the same goes for you.
If I had a nickel for everybody who asked, hey, where's J-O?
How's J-O doing?
I would, you know, probably more questions than Cantwell got.
So people still love you.
And that leads me to the next question is you kind of stepped back from everything for it's been probably two years now.
And not entirely because you were like, oh, yeah, I'm just going to go work and be a normie.
It was kind of, well, I'll let you frame it, but it wasn't all roses and peaches and flowers.
You were kind of disgusted with the whole scene.
And I alluded to that at the top.
Happens all the time.
It's not a rare occurrence.
Somebody gets either a bug in their bonnet or a bee in their bonnet or gets feelings like they were slighted or just gets kind of, you know, burnt out on the whole scene.
So whatever you're comfortable with Sharon about leaving and your analysis of the cause, if you would.
Well, so it was kind of a perfect storm of bullcrap, but like things in the scene and things in my personal life kind of were both tanking.
Like I was having serious family issues and there was health stuff going on, then all of this.
And I was 911 for so long and was the conflict resolution guy for so long that people still wanted me to play that role when I'm like working 60 hours a week at a job that I have to be up at 4.30 in the morning for.
And, you know, like having agreed to step away from things, there were certain conflicts that like I was not supposed to be involved in.
I'm not a part of this conversation anymore.
So sort of having to no comment a bunch of people when they're asking me what direction things are going, like, listen, I'm not the guy anymore.
And if it was people that I had dealt with personally and privately, like people I vetted into leadership or like, I can't tell you, I could do a hundred hours of talking about putting out fires, helping people through tough times and doxings and stuff.
I could go on and on forever.
But you don't have time for that when it's not your job.
Because you and I lived in the same building.
You saw how much time I put into all that kind of stuff.
I would drop what I was doing.
Yes.
I would drop what I was doing when anybody needed anything.
And then my old phone bricked and I lost that three-ma.
And I said, you know what?
Take the W.
Yeah, I'm out of here.
And yeah.
So then just trying to reacclimate into normie life.
And I had that one job and then COVID destroyed that.
And then I got a different job where I am now.
And I can say it was and remains weird trying to, because like my whole life was inside the thing.
Like I could go a month without having to talk to a normie other than like, you know, a cashier or something.
So going completely back in to normal life took some adjustment and still does.
And a lot of people still don't know what to make of me because they kind of can't pin me down.
Like I get all kinds of weird looks or get pulled into conversations or asked questions because like people assume I'm like a normie con because I might bring up something about like, you know, a coworker might invite me out for a drink after work and I, you know, sorry.
Yep.
I'm not, I don't go out with women without my, without my wife present.
And then like they'll assume from there that I'm like a Christian conservative guy.
But then I like to drop heaters like, you know, I'm not a Christian.
I'm not a conservative.
I'm not a Republican.
But those people have been right about just about everything over the past couple of years.
And they don't know how to take that.
And like conversations will start up where I'm anti-porn.
I call weed cringe, which all of you have to start doing because it makes them crazy.
Like I don't say it's degenerate or bad or illegal or, you know, any of the, no, just cringe.
What do you mean weed is cringe?
Oh, let's go roll a blunt.
Let's let's select one of several flavors of blunt reps and select our weed strains with dumb names, double back, flip, marshmallow.
You sound like children.
And like some of them can take the joke, but other ones will get mad.
You're right about that.
But yeah, so like I don't need to like socially fit in because it's at work.
But between being the guy who all he does is tell dad jokes, like, you know, talk about his kid and go about his business.
I'm like well liked in there.
So that works in my favor.
And I think one thing that makes me really popular there is I started enforcing a rule of like women not having to go to their cars alone at night because it's kind of sketchy, you know?
And I, and so it's like walking into your car, maybe, but I ain't going out drinking with you after work.
Yeah, yeah.
But well, the thing about being a normie, JO, I was just going to say the thing about you being a, you know, having doings with normies and stuff, even though you're not letting on exactly your background or things you know, there's that well of wisdom that you're drawing on that normies, it's alien to them.
You know, you have a way of reasoning in a certain way, a certain type of wisdom that they just don't know about.
And so that's what, that's what comes across, even if we're not saying white or white nationalist or anything like that.
Yeah, or I'll talk frequently about how being well adjusted to a sick society is nothing to brag about whenever someone talks about someone else being weird.
Yeah.
And like people are always like mind blown by these little nuggets of wisdom because it's actually a super diverse workplace in terms of age as well, because it's like a corporate headquarters, but a retail location of the organization is also attached.
So you have everything from like 60-year-old executives there to like teenagers working in the store, you know, and even just stuff like having to remind like younger people in the company that the kids are kids.
You know, you're 25 and you have certain expectations of the high school kids that work for you.
And like able to alleviate a lot of the nonsense around there because like, you know, talk about race realism and sex realism, age realism is a thing too.
You know, you can only put so much expectations on people.
But yeah, one of the reasons I asked, JO is because this is a fine line to walk because you were the guy, sort of the go-to guy.
We joke that when they called you the fixer, it was not entirely inaccurate.
In fact, it was it was damn accurate.
And then you go to more or less not being involved.
People make this thing their whole life.
You jumped in headfirst from the get-go and were involved for years.
And now you're more or less doing your own thing.
Family, you went from being like a tall, dark, and handsome rake to being a family man with bad jokes working with normies.
Do you miss it?
Do you miss the scene?
Be honest, or are you kind of enjoying not having that aspect be so prominent in your life?
Don't de-radicalize the audience, but be honest.
No, the things I miss are IRL stuff.
And like In the IRL stuff and in the, you know, on my phone type of stuff, when I can actually effectuate something good, right?
Like instances where I'm having to talk to somebody's spouse or their parents to calm them down because their husband or their son is just in the news and a reporter showed up at the house.
And you know, I can tell you, okay, I've seen this hundreds of times and you're freaking out and rightly.
So like there's a whole conversation to be had there when I can do that kind of thing for somebody.
It feels good.
When we got docs, when we got Doc's audience, I want to let you know, Jayo just said, go kick rocks.
He was of no help whatsoever.
Yeah.
But sorry.
I burned the house down.
But well, you have a way of expressing empathy, you know, with a certain gravitas that garners respect.
And that's just something innate, I think.
Yeah, I think I get that from my parents.
And from having been really angry as a young guy and how I sorted all of that out in my own head.
You know, I like to say that I try and in a rough situation, I try and give people space to maybe not be in that good emotional spot.
Because when something bad happens to you and maybe you have a freak out or you say something you don't mean or whatever, I compare it to getting blacked out drunk.
Hey, when my buddy gets blacked out drunk, I handle it as best I can.
And in the morning, I don't hold it against him because one day that might be me and I want to have friends when I wake up.
Yeah.
Right.
And yeah, there has to be some forbearance.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're also in this blessed position that like you get to be a part of the thing for a living.
You got to put the work in, right?
Like you're so lucky to be in the position you're in that like go earn it then, you know, because like they don't get to do what I get to do.
And if it was like, you know, a pain in the butt, because I've got some guy freaking out because he got an email at 11:30 that something's going to be published about him the next day, like, listen, then I'm going to have to sit on the phone with this guy for an hour or two in the middle of the night.
And, you know, it doesn't hurt that they're like grateful.
But some of that kind of stuff in the IRL stuff, I appreciate, but a lot of the like vetting leadership was cool because you're like kind of trying to, you're, you got to get to know people, but a lot of the drama stuff and managing egos and personalities and unsaid stuff and passive-aggressive stuff.
No, of course I don't miss any of that.
Has your worldview changed at all over the past two years?
Do you still believe the same things, just living a different life?
Or if has it sincerely changed?
No, my core beliefs and my core values haven't changed.
There are some perceptions I have like from dealing back with normies, some of which give me hope.
Like things are not as polarized as I think our guys think they are, which is actually in some ways a comfort because a greater percentage of people are convincible than maybe you believed.
But like you mean in terms of like you're either left-wing anti-fo, right-wing Nazi or a dumb normie, there's more overlap than we suspect.
Yeah.
And a lot of people just don't have super strong opinions on anything.
Like when I got this job, some people wore masks, other people didn't, and nobody cared what anyone else was doing.
Right?
It wasn't like, oh, these mask returns and put on your mask or you're going to kill everybody.
It was just sort of like a personal decision, and nobody cared what anyone else was doing.
I can tell you, though, that moderate left people, and by moderate left, I'm talking about like this chick that like smokes weed and has a boyfriend and a girlfriend who thinks all of this training nonsense is nuts, especially when it comes to the kids and the sports.
Like nobody likes any of that stuff.
And then the cool like white pill of it is that people in the middle and people on the right, the normie right are repeating narratives around these two things, especially in the middle, it's wild to hear.
Is man, that whole slippery slope thing that the conservatives were talking about 10 years with this gay stuff was true all along.
I'm seeing a lot of people like recant their support for like gay marriage and gay adoption.
Oh, yeah.
And then you could tie it back to things like, remember, I don't know, you guys are young, but I can even remember some of the things about, you know, the what people that were against the integrating like the high schools and things from the 60s and even in the 70s.
And there would be these what sounded like shrill predictions of, oh, they're going to destroy the public school system and the high schools are going to go to shit and everything.
And everyone would laugh that off.
Oh, come on.
Now look where we are.
Right?
You're all right about that.
Yeah.
You're about to get schools.
Yeah.
It's everything that was said about not letting niggers in the school was exactly correct.
It all happened exactly as predicted.
And the same with this now.
And the other narrative I'm hearing a lot of is you can go back to me on the air six years ago talking about I was an atheist for most of my adult life and then I saw the devil and knew that God had to be real.
And I hear a lot of people saying the same thing.
And a lot of that, I guess, is coming from that Andrew Tate guy who I don't want to do a 10-minute take on Andrew Tate, like whatever.
He's kind of tainted now.
Yeah, he kind of propagated that idea, though.
And it's weird to hear that, especially from a lot of younger people or just stuff like the kids in a retail store talking about like they hate their God, what do they all keep referring to it as?
Whatever their sort of like social studies stuff is late in high school and early in college, like having to write a paper about how you chose your gender.
Woke stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And like feeling like they have to like come up with some kind of story.
And then I will say, at least there's this much that when they say like, I was born into my gender and I don't go in for any of this stuff, they don't like get failed on the paper.
Right.
Like they're allowed to object to The overarching idea, at least.
Are you chewing the, I always, one of the things that we, myself included, have been guilty of is once we gain the knowledge about World War II, the Holocaust, white genocide, et cetera, we instantly claim somewhat rightfully a sort of sense of intellectual superiority.
And everyone who doesn't get it is either an enemy or dumb or a normie or in on the con.
And we tend.
And because a lot of us are hyper online, we self-segregate, we only consume this really bad, negative news.
We're reluctant to reach out in our communities or whatever, whether it's fear of docs or whether it's resentment of people who don't get it yet and, by god, i've said it a million times, if you don't get it yet, there's something wrong uh, but are you able it seems like you're able to interact with those people without resenting them?
Or you know, like I have to tell you the truth, you're just older and wiser now or uh, do you just have a different personality?
I guess i'm trying to advise the audience and myself too.
Well, per sam yeah yeah, per sam, I meet people where they are.
If i'm dealing with a young white conservative guy, the boundaries i'll push and the conversations that i'll have are different than if i'm talking to the weed smoking girl who has a girlfriend and a boyfriend right, but like I can meet her where she is because she carries a weapon right, like she's a, she's a two-way fan and she might be left wing on a hundred other things, but, like you know,
I can have a conversation with her about how important it is to hold the line on that issue, or I can talk to the young conservative about maybe it's not just the trans nonsense, it's all the Lgbt stuff.
You know, if they're telling us they're a community and they have solidarity and it's all or nothing, if it's, you know, gay marriage and trans kids or neither, i'm picking neither and those and again it's, they just needed permission like yeah, it's.
If I said that to anybody they'd lose their mind.
You know, it's an.
It's an interesting point that you raised there coach, because back in a different day and i'm talking 30 plus, maybe 35 years ago, people in this thing held the, the 95 of society, with complete derision, completely no respect whatsoever.
It was a very elitist type of thing because you know it's, it's us, we're the ones that are going to survive and be something.
All these other uh people, they're like dumb cattle.
You know, we call them sheeple, sheeple back in the day.
But now i'm looking at your own people like the way the Jews look at us.
Yeah yeah and, and it was really.
It was really true.
People did seem more brainwashed, believe it or not, 30 or 35 years ago.
But in in this era yeah, in this era that we're in there, there is a break.
There's a break in the armor and there's just a ton of a ton of people that aren't hard right or anything, who are sick of all the white privilege narratives, including non-white people.
The number of non-white people I see rolling their eyes at white privilege, because everyone I work with works hard, you know, and that's another reason it's hard to hate them all because like, maybe out in all of Normie land things are a little bit different, but where I work, I see all of these people like busting their ass, helping each other out, helping me out.
You know um, it's hard to have antipathy toward people who help you with stuff, you know um yeah, Definitely, we people in our position, I think, do have a little bit different outlook.
We think we feel that the pendulum has swung in our direction.
And these are the effects of that that you're describing.
And full disclosure for the audience, too.
I mean, we were ready to record with JO last week, but something came up.
Sam wasn't available.
We're going to get to Sam's travels here, too.
And I don't think, you know, I'm going to get in trouble for saying that JO said we.
At this point, we kind of just need to soldier on, struggle on.
Like there is no great leader out there to lead us to victory.
Do your thing, form your tribes.
I don't want to paraphrase too much or put words in your mouth, but is that is that more or less fair?
Or what's your thinking in terms of the cause, our movement, white racial interests and how to advance them?
I think we are in a holding pattern until the next big thing, which I sort of colloquially call 3.0 comes about.
I think that the leader has probably been born by this point.
And that's just a guess.
But I think that the next big thing is going to come with the next generation.
And it's our job to support them, not try and take their stuff over, because we dealt with a little bit of that with 1.0 wanting to show up and say like, oh, well, we've been here for 30 years.
So hand over the keys.
It's time to go.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Your thing didn't work out.
And we respect you.
And we came up on your stuff, but like, we're going to try and do this a different way.
And you need to let us because yours didn't work.
And I think we have to kind of be humble for a minute and that like we didn't do everything right, obviously.
And, you know, one thing I said that sort of sparked some people was, I don't think that there's an organization existing worth burning a personal relationship for.
Like there's just no version of there's no group I could join that's going to tell me coach is a scumbag and you shouldn't associate with him.
No, I know him.
Right.
Like I lived at his house, you know.
It was the same with you, buddy.
I was like, I don't know where you're getting these stories from.
And maybe Jo told a tall tale or two in the past, but we took you.
I had only met you at Mania One and you were kind of a dick.
I was like, hey, I'm coaching here for the party.
He's like, show me your invite.
I was like, whoa, this guy means business, you know.
And then when Jo got laid off from his Norman job, whenever that was, it was actually my wife who was like, a guy kind of needs help.
You know, we got this big basement unoccupied.
I was like, all right, let's roll the dice inside of a bitch.
You know, it was great.
And so was Johnny too.
Johnny Monoxide, I don't think it's a big secret to say that when Johnny got a job near where we lived, we were like, yeah, come on, Johnny.
And he was great.
He cooked a little more than JO, truth be told.
But Jayo did more babysitting.
So it's like, yeah, look, you know, we do litmus tests sometimes and we are instinctively tribal where it's like, all right, if you're not in my thing, then I'm going to put you at arm's distance.
And I've done that personally too.
Like if somebody's quit a group or whatever, I'm like, all right, I'm not going to like say that you're persona non grata, but I'm not exactly like I'm a little disappointed in you to go your own way or do your thing.
We're not going to be as close as possible, but to like say, oh, he's not part of this thing anymore, burn notice, or he is off limits or spreading gossip and rumor.
It's just, it's morale killing, frankly.
And we've seen it in spades.
This is not the time to air dirty laundry.
Well, go ahead, Sam.
Well, I could only say that I spent quite a few hours with Jayo on our little trip from down south.
We went to St. Louis.
We saw the arch there and some different fun things along the way.
On a steamboat ride and then drove off, yeah.
And I feel like you know, you can keep up some kind of facade for an hour or two, but I've, you know, we, we had a lot of talks because we had a lot of hours in the vehicle.
And we just talked, you know, how it is when our people get together.
You can just keep talking and talking.
One subject leads into another.
And just out on the steamboat.
And yeah, we had a good time.
And he was, he was, uh, needed a ride to the airport because he was going to see his lady friend.
And we had a great time, great conversations, very lively.
JO's a great conversationalist and a true friend and a very fine person.
Well, I was a fan of yours before I was your friend.
Like the first time I went to Chicago, the actors remember had booked me to come out there and, you know, do a thing or whatever.
And they were like, what do you want to do first?
I was like, meet Sam.
You came over to our friend's house or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
No, it's cool.
It's cool to, you know, meet somebody that you, because podcasting gives you a one-right, one-sided relationship with a bunch of people.
They know a lot about you.
You don't know much about them.
Like, I know Joe Rogan's life story, you know, and he doesn't know I exist.
But it's cool when you get to meet someone and they are who you thought they were.
Yeah.
Like, it's one thing to play a character because playing a character is a thing.
And like in our thing, we all kind of have to bullshit a little bit around the edges.
Protect anonymity, you know?
But no, like when you're listening to someone's voice several hours a week and you're like, man, that guy just sounds cool.
And then you meet him and he is, it's the best feeling in the world.
Absolutely.
And I always tried to be that too.
Like, the idea of being like a D tier E celeb and big timing someone was always like the corniest idea to me.
And I can, I can also say that like nobody in our thing did that to people, you know, like, um, right.
Yeah, actually, there was one instance where I did turn down for a picture.
No, there's one instance where I did turn someone down for a picture because he was about 15.
And I was like, dude, if you go post this somewhere, like you could be ruining a lot for yourself.
And I don't think that you're making the best decision by wanting to take a picture with me.
He recognized me in public.
It wasn't at an event.
But I was still like cool with him, chatted with him, you know.
And those kind of interactions were always cool.
But it is, yeah, it is funny when people reach out and they're, you know, very familiar and colloquial.
And I'm like, hi, how are you doing?
You know, not at all elitist or whatever, but it's just like, I'm sorry.
It's not who are you again?
It's just like, oh, I don't, you know, I don't, there's a big inequality there between what we know and what they know.
I'll tell you what the worst feeling in the world is is meeting someone for the second time and not immediately remembering them because then they're like, oh, no, I met you at this thing.
Remember, we talked about XYZ.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, dude.
I felt like such a jerk.
And like, that's one of those ones where like you still feel it two years later.
Hey, nice to meet you.
And it's like, no, we've met before.
Oh, God.
Stomach sink.
I can't remember if I made the bed at my buddy's house where I stayed about a month or two ago before leaving.
And it's still haunting me.
He's been a trooper.
He said, well, we don't, we don't remember whether the bed was made.
So it probably means I forgot.
Major faux pas.
JO, I didn't give you a heads up on this question.
Not that I gave you a heads up on most of these questions, but probably, God, it was right after January 6th with a mutual friend that we did not in Kansas anymore, which was all OpSEC and Infosec tips for guys.
Doxes are still happening, although there seems to be way less drama or surprise surrounding them.
It's like, you know, different day, different docs, big deal.
But if you could distill for the audience, for whom that's still a big concern to getting involved more or just having that anvil over their head, what would you broadly tell people who were going through it or who were worried it was about to happen?
Any tips, best practices you could share that doesn't give the game away?
Yeah, number one, and this is probably the hardest, but stay calm.
And I'm not just saying that because like it's a good strategy.
Yeah.
But like nobody knows.
Like, what?
Maybe there's a Facebook conversation between some people you went to high school with going on.
A Twitter with 100 retweets.
Yeah.
Even if someone flyers your neighborhood with your face, no one looked at that flyer and no one's putting two and two together when you walk down the street to go take the bus.
Like, if you lose your job, just go get another one, right?
Except in like very extreme circumstances, there's like never a double tap.
Like, and a lot of people get a certain paranoia that like if you're in the U.S., I can't tell you anywhere else, but like saying what you've said and believing what you believe is legal.
You're not going to like get arrested or whatever.
And not the case for England and many other countries.
Yep.
And if you were an on-air guy or a forum guy or something and you said some super wild stuff, like it's always good to come back at people, especially if they're like lefties, because lefties always want to be edgy.
It's like, oh, well, you want to tell abortion jokes and dead baby jokes, but my race joke is way off the reservation, you know?
Because there's not one person in our whole thing.
Actually, there is, there is.
And that's kind of a different story.
But there's nobody in our thing that I've talked to at any sort of length who hasn't said something Fed posty, you know, and you're doing a blow it out of proportion style joke or you're furious about something and you just want to say the most vulgar rage filled thing that you can.
And that's fine.
And like nobody, nobody knows.
Nobody knows.
Very few people care.
And the problem that happens sometimes, like I said, I'd be talking to people's parents or their spouses or whatever is like the tone of what they write is like they're trying to ruin you.
They're trying to smear you.
They're trying to make this look in the worst possible light.
They're trying to make you feel like a piece of dirt.
Yeah.
So if you let them win, you're helping them out.
Yeah.
Act like nothing's wrong and you're going to pull it off.
You know, like what you said a moment ago, you feel you're being embarrassed or shamed.
The fact is in this fragmented, retarded society, nobody on this whole block knows anybody else on this whole block.
They could, like, they could do anything and it wouldn't even matter because nobody knows anybody on this block.
And I'm not sure if we were on the air when we when I said it, but like being well adjusted to a society this sick is nothing to be proud of.
So if they're trying to make you feel weird or like you don't fit in, I don't want to fit into drag tween storyology.
I don't want to fit in to any of this non.
I don't want to fit into like pretending a mask works.
Like I don't want to be a part of that.
Like, yeah, I'm the outcast here.
Even if, even if like no one on the normie right agrees with me about race, like I, yeah.
And I don't want to fit in with them on that either.
You know?
Yeah, it's it's like a woman who's overdressed or underdressed for a particular social occasion.
You know, she's very sensitive and all about all that.
Whereas you would know, like, nobody's even looking at you.
What do you care?
Who cares?
You know, that's that's the attitude you got to have is, you know, pretend like nothing's wrong.
And guess, guess what?
Nothing's wrong.
When we got when we got hit, real quick, funny story.
I happened to be at that time in really good shape.
It was August, so I was 10, and the lawn needed mowing.
So it was like the day after.
And I was like, you know what?
If anybody's going to come here and take a picture of my house, gosh darn it, my lawn is going to look good.
So I took off my shirt, put on my USS Liberty cap, and strapped the Glock to my hip.
And I went out and mowed the lawn.
And I was really hoping.
I was so hoping that that was going to be the picture.
Like, come on, Antifa, please.
You know, Journos, now is the time.
Catch me mowing the lawn.
Alas, no pictures came from that one.
It's funny, too.
Like, I've seen several doxes where the picture they published of the person.
Maybe the first instance of this that I can remember was John.
Yeah.
They printed this article with this picture of John.
And yeah.
Surprisingly, it comes out a lot.
Even one of our good buddies who recently got hit, like there's like a before and after.
And I'm like, hey, man, you know, if they were, well, I don't want to give Antifa any tips, but it's like, yeah, they oftentimes publish really good ones.
They even blurred one.
Like, I had a really good one where I was in a suit and tie and they blurred my face so it looked it didn't show up to me.
All right, not about me.
What else, Jayo?
Aside from staying strong, not freaking out, not feeling guilty, the world mostly does not give a rat's ass.
There's a small circle of people who care that you've been doxed.
Some are nastier than others, of course.
Yeah.
But anything else to give to people still worrying about it?
Man, because I used to have a whole freaking protocol and now I'm trying to remember it.
And I know that parts of it I don't want to share.
But what about having security?
Yeah, go ahead.
You have stuff like move and change your number if you think those things are important.
But also, if you're involved, lean on your guys.
Throw a Doc Smitzva, you know?
And that's a big one.
People are like, they get sheepish or they shut everything down and disappear when the exact opposite is what you should.
You don't have to like keep posting or podcasting or whatever if you're really freaked out.
But like, that's, that's what we're here for.
We're not far.
One thing I will say is if you get the warning shot, if you like get the email that says, hey, we're publishing on you, do you have a comment?
Or when the docs comes out, do in fact shut down all your social media.
And maybe, depending on the circumstances, you can bring it back in a month.
But if people can't go see it for themselves, they're also less likely to believe it because people on all sides of politics have like no faith in the media.
Right.
That's exactly right.
So an example, I listened to a lot of Joe Rogan.
I always have like, I kept my mouth shut about it, I guess, while I was on the air because I wanted people to listen to our stuff.
And, but you still do.
Listen to Joe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, you know, I don't listen to all of them because sometimes there's just insufferable people on there.
But I can tell you that like he has a lot of right-wing and left-wing listeners, probably not out to the extreme of either side or not a lot of them.
But when they came after him on the COVID stuff and like CNN put up the video of him where they changed his skin color to make him look more sickly and they were calling Iver Mecton horse saying Joe Rogan is taking horse to Wormer to fight COVID, all of this stuff.
Like nobody believed any of it.
That's like how he survived getting canceled because them and that didn't work.
They did the N-word video, right?
Yep.
And so he's nigger this nigger, that nigger, nigger.
And like he's a UFC commentator and like black fighters were coming out defending him.
Like, no, he was reading a Tarantino script or no, he was talking about a conversation about the word or whatever.
And like people aren't allergic to that in that context.
Right.
Just nobody believes the media on anything.
Right.
You know, if you, if you work somewhere or or your friends or neighbors or something, they know you and they know you're a good guy.
And then all of a sudden they hear some crazy story in the media from people they don't like.
What are they going to believe?
They're going to believe you.
They're going to say, well, I know this guy.
He's a good dude.
I don't know what that story's about.
You know, you got to got to have a little faith in yourself.
It depends where you're going.
I work with a non-white woman who's a dwarf.
And she always likes to crack jokes about how tall I am because she always has to ask me to grab stuff for her.
And it's like, not the kind of stuff Wolfie would have to ask me to get.
It's like, you know, this woman's like super tiny, like she can't get anything.
So she's always having to come get me.
And like, if you went to this woman and said, like, hey, that guy over there is a genocidal maniac and he hates everybody and he's terrible.
She just, I don't even think she'd respond.
Like she wouldn't even reply to you.
She'd be like, no, I know that guy.
What are you talking about?
And just walk away.
Some people will, of course.
I mean, you know, it depends on where you live too.
If you live in a ritzy suburb or a social striver area, especially working.
No, if you live in one of those places where people have the signs that say like in this house, we believe in science and blowing dudes or whatever it is they believe in.
Like, like those people might want to turn their nose up at you.
But also like they happen to live in proximity to you, but they don't know you.
You don't have to interact with them on an everyday thing.
And yeah, I've heard of instances where like some other parents don't want their kids to play with your kids anymore, blah, blah, blah.
But like that's not the end of the world.
And like your kid can make new friends.
And also like if the kids are friends with them anyways.
Yeah, they're not going to let their parents tell them who they can and can't be friends with.
But if you're, if you're freaked out, the kids will get that anxiety too.
If you play it cool, the kids will be more likely to be cool.
A quick story I wanted to share.
And this happened just recently.
Of course, I don't think the audience is thinking that I'm backpedaling for my views or whatever, but it struck me the other day that by living in West Virginia, which is still over 90% white, my area is as well, you know, mostly it's redder than ever.
The state Senate and House of Delegates is like 90% Republican now.
Like the Democrats have more or less been wiped off the board.
And I can go a week or more sometimes without seeing a quote unquote minority.
And if I do, they almost are like, you know, just salt of the earth locals, not recent arrivals.
So being somewhat physically isolated from the stuff that I saw in DC and Northern Virginia, just the very hyper aggressive influx, non-white ethnic solidarity, the absolute change in nature in neighborhoods, being removed from that has to a certain extent taken the heat off of me and my intensity to a certain respect because I know that the world is bad.
Like I'm under no illusions.
But if I don't stop and think about it or consume a lot of news, more or less things seem, you know, it's maybe like 10 or 20 years back, time machine travel.
Yeah, if you had to live across the street from them, then you might have a different.
Yeah, I think so, Sammy, baby.
And what happened was I had to go into a large influx-riddled area the other day with Junior.
And I could instantly feel the old feelings of high pressure, gripping the steering wheel, looking around like, God, what the hell is this place?
Because that place I had been to before and 10 or 15 years ago, I thought was like a nice, you know, middle income, white, medium-sized city.
And now, you know, you go into the same stores or into the same places and it's like half of Central America is there.
And I thought, holy God, it one made me thank myself for where we live, still advocate for trying to get to a place as white and red as possible, if for no other reason for your own personal sanity and safety.
Safety.
Yeah.
Seriously.
Yep.
I like to say, I live in a place where I can hear gunshots at any time of the night, very close, like one hill over or off in the distance, and I never have the slightest concern.
Now, granted, there was a massive fentanyl bust here within the past month, which I was gratified to see and, of course, horrified, but not surprised to know was going on.
So it's, you know, no place is going to be cool that they're on to them at least.
Yep, absolutely.
It was run out of Baltimore and they had local mules and dealers that they rolled up.
So the things that go along with it.
JO, before we get too far here, you are a space nerd and you consume a lot of one of the other things that we do is we only consume our content.
That's great.
Do that if you want.
And sometimes when you've commented, I've, you know, in chats or whatever, I've been like, man, JO has really gone the normie router.
JO still has interests that aren't related to white nationalism.
What a loser.
But we made that bet.
Let's geek out a little bit on space here.
It doesn't have to be too long, but we made that bet.
NASA, the United States, is going back to the moon.
I believe they plan to put American feet on the moon sometime in 2025.
They had that first spaceship Artemis make it around the move and then around the moon.
And the next one up they have sometime this year is to actually orbit humans around the moon.
But you're the dear moon mission.
The dear moon mission.
A Japanese billionaire went to Elon and said, I want to see the moon.
What's it going to cost me?
And he said, well, you got retail a quarter billion.
He said, okay, good.
And he said, I'm going to pick a couple of people to go with you.
And he picked Tim Dodd, the everyday astronaut, who is the best space and rocket content creator on the internet, musician Steve Aoki.
And fourth seat actually seems like it's up in the air right now.
But they're going to fire them off of a Falcon 9 rocket in a dragon capsule, burning Merlin engines.
And they are going to get cut loose and go to the moon and do a couple laps around that bad boy and come back.
And they're going to splash down off the coast of Florida.
It's autopilot.
Like they're literally like it's they don't even steer the ship or anything.
Well, when Bob and Doug first went up, they were the first people that Elon sent to the space station.
And at no point, like at one point, Bob had his hand on the stick because that's the protocol in case the autopilot features go down as they were docking.
But of course it didn't.
And they got there perfectly safe, stayed there for a while, came home.
Everything was great.
Only SpaceX is sending non-Russians into space right now.
But that's not the U.S., NASA, does not have the capacity to put people in orbit right now.
Wait, so this is for years.
This is not Artemis?
I thought Artemis was a NASA project with perhaps SpaceX rockets.
Are we talking about two different things, NASA versus Elon's private venture?
Or is that one of the things?
Artemis is the mission to put four people back on the moon.
Right.
I think you're thinking of the SLS rocket, which is the rocket that they want to do it with.
But I think it's highly unlikely that that's going to happen.
Part of the reason SpaceX is so much better than any government space program out there is they were willing to iterate and they had a profit motive, right?
So if I'm going to sink money to make money, that's fine.
But when it's a government rocket and it blows up or it doesn't work, everyone just says, hey, man, why are you wasting money on that instead of some other government program?
Like the last time man went to the moon, people were so over it that like, I forget what the meme is, but something like a game show was getting better ratings than because all in the family reruns were canceled or something.
Yeah.
But when they're profit motive, so there's Starlink, which I would assume you have, but Starlink is essentially a satellite that gives you high-speed internet as good as your urban Wi-Fi anywhere in the world.
And part of most of what SpaceX launches is its own satellites, but also all the U.S. stuff.
They fired up Falcon Heavy the other day, which if you've never seen a Falcon 9 rocket land, go do it.
And that's part of why they're so successful is their rockets are reusable.
Historically, everything either landed in the ocean and sunk or burned up in the atmosphere.
But he fires these rockets off and then they land upright, not like an airplane.
It's like dropping a pencil and having it stick the landing on the eraser.
And Falcon Heavy is there's two of them and it's attached to, you know, the thing in the middle and to create all that extra thrust.
And then that's how it goes up.
Like there was a top secret satellite being fired off.
And so you didn't get to see the second stage of the launch where, you know, the boosters come off and stage separation, Miko, Seiko.
And then like you get to see the thing go into space because they'll put cameras on the capsule that's going to launch the satellites or whatever it is they're launching.
You get to watch it until it inserts into its proper orbit.
In that case, you don't get to.
So if Artemis, I'm sorry, if SLS or if any of the American rockets were worth the damn, why weren't they sending the top secret thing out there?
So I think that the U.S. is still playing because of its competition with China and Russia is still playing at having a serious program.
But all of the serious business is going to be done by Elon because he's going to have Starship, which is like 10 times bigger than anything that has ever launched.
This thing fires on 33 Raptor engines, which any one of them is the biggest commercial engine ever.
So it's going to go on 33 yeah, and like go go, look at the thing online.
It's a two-stage rocket and the second stage.
The first stage is just a booster, but the second stage, which has its own three engines on it um, the second stage itself is like the size of a 747 and you can live in it right, it's not just a cargo thing.
So when they go to the Moon and when they go to Mars, they're going to launch a couple of these full of fuel first, land those on the moon, land those on Mars, and then the thing that the people will be landing in is like their home, right?
It is the space station.
Right.
And I just think that that's so mind-blowing and radio.
It's amazing, man.
The balls, like, um, and the way that Starship lands, it belly flops.
It's got like sort of four winglets, two at the front, two at the back.
And those winglets in the belly work as drag brakes until that thing gets dude 30 meters off the ground.
And then it just does like a pendulum swing back and forth a couple of times and then lands.
Straight up.
One of the things that we do is we're like, well, we live in clown world.
Why America piss earth?
So everything sucks.
Nothing is interesting.
And it's like, wow, man.
Sorry.
There is still some really cool stuff happening out there that it is healthy and normal.
Maybe I'm just projecting and it's just me who's been that way.
But I'm trying to change a little bit.
I'm trying to branch out.
JO, I have a bunch more questions for you.
You haven't been on the show in so long.
And I'm frankly just furious that you're recording from where you are without the microphone that I sent you.
Are you game to take a break and come back for a little bit more?
Can we do this?
Because I'd like to do a little bit more, but the break will cut into the time I have.
Can we just go a little bit long at the top and then I'll get out of here?
Oh, at the top of the second hour?
No, or right now.
Keep going for another 10 or 15 and then I'll jump off.
That's fine by me.
Rolo, I want to ask you about the UFO.
Sorry.
Yeah, it's like, yeah, sure, Joe.
All right, moving on.
But I did want to talk about, I'm damn curious what you guys think about this recent UFO phenomenon, the Chinese balloons, the somewhat more darkly mysterious tiny zeppelins, it seems like the octagonal or small cylindrical things that have either been getting shot down or detected.
It seems like the consensus from our guys is this is not what it seems.
This is a gay op to distract or make China into new boogeymen, which every country, every major power needs a boogeyman to sort of motivate its people.
And usually the motivation is actually rational.
So like if we had a real country, like pointing out China as a major threatened competitor, it's been rational for about three or four decades.
I remember saying that a long time ago, that they were the big threat and we should be friends with Russia because we're going to need them against China.
Anyway, Rolo, you've been quiet, far too quiet.
Weigh in on the news of the day with weird stuff in the sky.
What do you think is going on?
Well, I don't think these are UFOs.
I think if you believe that, you are a stupid person.
As in alien life form.
Yes.
Yes.
If you think this is aliens surveilling the land, you're a stupid person.
I also think I also think that China is smarter than sending balloons to surveil the land because China has been getting intel from Israel on the US for years.
So they don't need to send a balloon to do any kind of like topographical surveillance.
That's silly.
I think if anything, you know, you know, you know, my brain, the Ukraine war is starting to get extremely unpopular.
So maybe, you know, the Russia, it just doesn't hit as hard as it could.
But China, you know, that's a good enemy.
But one year later.
Go ahead.
But I am thinking that this may be a distraction for what happened with the train derailments.
I have to object.
Yeah.
I have to object.
I object to 100% of distraction narratives at all times.
There's always more than one thing happening.
Like, so they were trying to maybe bury or not talk about the train thing as much, but you've heard more about the train in the last 24 hours than you did since it happened.
And like Ukraine is still happening.
Drag Queen story hours still happening.
Like these distraction narratives, there's always more than one thing going on.
And people don't drop the other thing that they're upset about because the new thing has happened.
Now they're like, maybe they're mad about, say, the border crisis.
And they might be like, whoa, what are these balloons?
But they don't forget about the border crisis.
In my defense, I said may because I don't think these balloons, this is like a real thing that they care about.
I think this is something they want people to be talking about.
It may not be the train derailment, but that to me is like a really big deal.
That is far more interesting.
Well, it's like the health effect.
Displaces time on the news, right?
If nothing else, then talking about this dumb balloons.
I'm trying to think of what a balloon can do.
And I just don't know anything about that.
So maybe they don't need it for surveillance because there's already good enough satellites in space.
But could it be like, what could a balloon do tactically?
And I also taking on industrial communications could be one of them being a little bit faster.
But I also think there's a non-zero chance that one or more of these things was done by a troll.
Like just someone who thought about it.
That's possible too.
But the fact that this was like nationwide news and it's like the least interesting thing.
Like honestly, the Super Bowl is more interesting to me than these balloon things.
Come on.
Sending F-22s up to shoot things out of the sky and like getting clearly something stupid is happening.
So I just roll my eyes like, and it's like this black man shot down a balloon in Black History Month.
Okay, now I know this is a non-issue.
Well, it's also interesting.
If it was serious, they'd send a real pilot.
If Ben Franklin were flying that kite today, you know, somebody in Philly would have shot it down.
He never would have gotten his electricity.
But when I think about what are balloons capable of, like, what if that balloon is equipped with some sort of piece of equipment that can do one thing or another that can sort of only do it from a balloon?
Like, maybe anything jet propelled is too rough on it.
You know, like, what if it has to be something that moves slowly because it's some kind of super sensitive equipment?
And they know that the things are going to get busted eventually, but they're just going to collect as much information as they can until they get busted.
So they send out the fleet of balloons and it's probably not coming from China.
It's probably Chinese nationals in North America sending them up, if it's China at all.
That's what I would suspect.
And then like, okay, just let the thing float for as long as it does.
We're going to collect whatever data we're trying to collect with our piece of sensitive equipment.
And when it gets shot down, then it's over.
But we had the wiretap up for at least this long.
My take here, I'll give you my take and then a supplement that smarter people than me added on as a corollary was that this it's real.
You could see it with the naked eye.
The whole idea that they wanted to suppress it, but then people were like, there's a giant balloon up in the sky there.
I could see it over Montana or Colorado.
Like kind of the cat got out of the bag.
I would guess, I don't know, that this is a Chinese and possibly in tandem with the Russians.
Maybe some are Chinese, maybe Russian, but I would suspect they're mostly Chinese.
It's a Chinese flex.
A la what we did to the Soviet Union during the Cold War with U2 overflights.
You know, go ahead, try to shoot our plane down.
And the balloon's cheap.
They probably doesn't have anything too sensitive that they're worried about losing.
And the corollary to, that would be my guess, is that it's a flex by China.
Go ahead, shoot our balloons down.
We're doing it, you know, call our bluff or try to sweep it under the rug.
Maybe we've been doing it for a long time and that'll call out more hypocrisy.
It'll start to make the populace a little bit nervous, a la Sputnik in the late 50s.
And then military-minded guy said they could flood the skies with cheap balloons and whatever the hell the other stuff is.
And it is not cheap to send up an F-22 and shoot sidewinders at them at 400K a pop.
Now, is China trying to bleed us dry by like sending up domestic fighter jets to shoot things down?
Probably not, but I thought that was an interesting thing.
And the damn dog is clawing at the door.
I'll be right back.
How about it, Sandy?
Well, just to go along with what you're saying there, I remember some years ago, there's this website, gearbest.com.
It just spells just like it says.
And I ordered this little hex helicopter.
You know, it's got six propellers on it and it's a remote control.
And because it has that many propellers on it, it's very stable, you know, and it's very precise drone.
No, I'm talking something that's maybe four inches in diameter.
You know, it's a little, it's a toy.
Okay.
And so we got this thing.
We ordered it for $17 post-paid from China.
You know, now think about that.
Like imagine you wanted to send like a first-class letter to China.
What would that cost?
Right.
I mean, that's, that's, I don't know, is it eight, ten dollars, maybe more than that, just to, just to send anything of like literally no weight at all.
Here we have like a thing that flies by remote control and they're able to provide it to me for $17 postage paid.
Yeah.
You know, going along with Coach's point, you know, just put these cheap things up in the air.
Go ahead, shoot them down, you know?
ISIS drone technology is so advanced.
Yeah.
Yeah.
ISIS would do that in Syria against like Russian depots.
They would fly a drone up there and like just they'd be like, oh, that's where they're storing their weapons, Kablooey.
And it took them a long time to adjust to that, apparently.
So I heard.
We're like these drone clusters that they're almost doing like fireworks shows with where it's like 3,000 drones go up and you program it from your lap and they all go up and spell happy birthday or whatever.
And then they turn into Starry Night or the Mona Lisa.
Like consumer flying electronics are really advanced for a low price.
In fact, you can get a cool one for $17 from China.
Yep.
We're hopping all over the place here.
I'm Milk and Jo.
Certainly, hope that he comes back and maybe even considers becoming a regular, even if we have to adjust our treasured show recording schedule.
Oh, hell yeah.
I told I was like, whenever Jayo was coming on, I just sort of was able to fly a little bit more casual because I always knew he'd have a good story or perhaps an interruption here or there.
JO, back to Junior.
What are your current you know, you told a lot of stories about all the stuff you like to do with him that gave you pure joy when he was a little tyke, and now he's a little bit older.
Uh, what do you enjoy most doing with your son these days?
What do I enjoy most doing with him?
So, I don't know if this is going to be a lackluster answer, but no lackluster answers on this one.
My favorite like moments, more fun than any of like the games we play or whatever, is putting him down to bed.
Like, he, he, I have to be there for him to fall asleep these days.
He's totally attached to me.
Um, but when he's real tired and he's gonna go right out, it's like the sweetest thing on earth.
And then this goes for when I walk in the door too, or anything, but when he wakes up and he sees me, like he just saw Paul McCartney, like, and this is every time he's just so over the moon to see me, and he does this smile.
It's his mom's smile, it's like a South Park-looking smile.
And I remember that from you, you said that back in the day, so it's even better that that has still persisted to this day that you're still a superhero.
Yeah, yeah, and uh, it's just it's so much fun.
Like when we both have the day off and he sleeps in the bed with us, and we all wake up, and he wakes up, and he's just stoked to be alive.
And we can have a lazy day, nobody has to rush for anything.
Like, those are more or less my favorite moments.
Um, and or another just hilarious thing that he started doing recently is he's decided he really likes the feeling of having his hair brushed, so he'll just walk up to me and he won't even say anything.
Time for the salon, Dad.
Yeah, he'll just try and hand me the hairbrush.
And if I don't do it, like it's total war.
But is he in a big boy bed yet, or is he in a crib where you like keep dropping the mattress down so he can't escape?
Or what's the because our potato, truth be told, is still sleeping in the bed with us more often than not.
He's just hooking on it.
We're used to it, and we're like, you know what?
It's not going to last forever.
It's one of the lessons.
Somebody asked the other day, when is the pacifier getting out of control?
You know, is it time to really move on from that?
I said, you know, usually at some point, just like he seems like he's too old for it, he or she, and you just stop buying them and then it fades away.
And the same thing with the co-sleeping thing.
Like, one point you couldn't give him a passy all of a sudden one day.
He just didn't want it anymore.
But yeah, like there is some of he falls asleep in the bed, especially if it's for nap time.
But if I'm going to do something that requires all my attention, I'll put him in the crib.
And I could at night put him down.
Once he falls asleep, pick him up and go put him in the crib and then wait for him to wake up, fussing or whatever.
But that's just adding a step.
And again, him waking up and seeing me is like the best part of both of our days.
So why would I take that away from him?
And the flip side of it, buddy, what is the most maddening?
I can't imagine that you've ever given him a spanking.
Maybe you have.
What's the toughest part of fatherhood these days?
He has the same Rhythmic propensities, I did where he just has to be tapping on something.
He'll take a toy and speed.
Yep.
And he'll just, it's cool when he's doing a beat, right?
Because he does, like, you know, for his age, relatively complex rhythms and he'll repeat them.
And that's like cool and impressive.
And I encourage it.
But sometimes he just wants to take a toy and tap, tap, tap, tap, Stop.
All right.
I'm irritated.
Tap, And just the sheer volume he can produce, like the decibels when he's going to have a tantrum.
Yeah.
And the notes he can hit.
He sounds like Danny Filth from Cradle of Filth.
You've always been a walker.
Joe's a big walker.
He'll be pacing, you know, on one hour's sleep and no food.
Sometimes you have to just hit the road and take a walk to maintain calm.
Yep.
Yep.
I figured.
Like once I can start to feel it in my chest, I'm out of here.
I don't think you were still on the show when we started adding our favorite childhood memory question to first time or, you know, it's your first time for the second time on the show, JO.
But what's the first thing that comes to mind from your childhood that brings a smile to your face?
We're not talking earliest memory.
We're just talking about.
Yep.
Like, you know, and don't even try to go for something significant.
the first thing that pops into your head, a happy childhood memory for you.
I don't know if this is number one.
I'm going to give two.
I'm going to give two sort of songs.
How about it?
One was, and I think I've answered this on like, what was your favorite Christmas gift growing up?
But I got a Huffy Sonic 6 for Christmas one year.
And here we are 35 years later or something.
I'm still talking about it.
But another one, because this came up the other day, my mom had a job at the airport at a little retail thing at the airport.
And I used to love going with her because, you know, it's the airport.
There's planes going by.
Like, there's all sorts of people around.
And there's an arcade right next to the airport where her friend worked.
So her friend would like give me free tokens sometimes and stuff.
But one day I was what seven.
I met Brett the Hitman Hart and the million-dollar man Ted DiBiase and could not believe what was happening.
Like, I loved wrestling when I was little, just like every other kid.
But, and they were like super cool and they were like leaning into it.
They weren't coming through in like sunglasses and ball caps pulled down in normal clothes.
Like, no, he's in silver and black.
This guy's in hot pink.
They've both got their hair done and they're walking around shaking hands and stuff.
And like, Bret Hart like grabbed my biceps and was like, whoa, you're going to be huge someday, you know, and like, you know, like pretending like I was a tough guy like them and stuff.
But that story came up the other day.
So I'll go with that one.
All right.
Good stuff, man.
I wanted to share a couple of my favorite condensed JO memories because, you know, JO's got all these wild stories.
And I'm like, well, I don't know.
Cool stories tend to happen around JO and I've been there for some of them.
The first would be in the aftermath of Charlottesville when we were still high on the event.
And even though it went poorly, we were still like, oh my God, you know, we turned the world on its ear.
We dominated news coverage for months.
And we got the president to say the most explicitly pro-white or pro-Confederate comments ever since the Civil War, probably.
And JO and I are sitting out on the back deck of our house watching that vice documentary from El Reeve at the time that it came off and just cackling and laughing our heads off, cracking beers, maybe smoking a cig or two.
And it's late.
It's, I don't know, maybe one, maybe two in the morning.
And I probably had work the next day.
And then we hear a window open up above us.
And my dear wife sticks her head out of the window looking at us.
We thought she was asleep.
And she just says, I'm so disappointed in both of you.
And we looked at each other like little kids with our hands caught in the candy jar.
And she was not wrong.
She was not wrong.
But that one sticks out for me.
Another one.
We happened to take a nice long weekend in the Poconos once.
Bunch of friends, good time, fall foliage, all that stuff.
And I'm putting potato.
No, it wasn't, must have been dear daughter because we didn't have potato yet.
He may have been conceived that weekend.
And I get a call on my phone from Jo, but he's staying with us.
I'm like, what the hell does he want?
I'm trying to put the daughter down to sleep.
So I send it to voicemail.
And then he calls my wife next.
And she comes into the room.
She's like, J-O needs help.
And this was, of course, the infamous black bear story where J-O out on one of his walks was confronted with a late fall, gigantic black bear or two and had to hide in a trash bin or in a trash receptacle.
I went to go for a short walk and smoke a cigarette while everyone's putting their kids down because that's just a hectic process.
And I'm just one more body in the way.
So I'll go outside.
And I'm walking and I'm walking downhill.
And I realize I don't want to go this way anymore because I'm going to get to the bottom of this hill and then I have to walk back up it.
So I turn around and there they are, Tyrone and Jamal.
Tyrone looks at me and then looks forward and keeps walking and looks back at Jamal and then Jamal looks at me and looks forward and they keep walking.
And they have these like fortified wood sheds that you put your garbage cans in to protect them from bears.
And I'm right near one.
And that vacation house is not occupied at the time.
So the thing was unlocked.
So I got in it and shut it.
I'm in there with the garbage cans.
And I make the phone call and Coach, you didn't send it straight to voicemail.
You answered it and said, I'm trying to get on call you right back and hung up.
Wow.
So then I call Wolfie.
And everyone just tools up, jumps in the car and they go the two separate ways that could be gone.
And I'm on the phone with Coach and I say, I think I see you.
Blink your flashlights.
Yeah, that's you.
Slow down to about five miles an hour and open the back door, but don't stop.
And I run and jump at the car and I shut the door.
And then we went around the way and we found them and we got them on video.
And we all had lawful firearms of various calibers as well.
It was like we, it was a bear posse that we got together and came to find you and rescue from that one.
Your brother, big, big bad Joe hiding in the dumpster, like the kid in the never-ending story when the bullies were coming around.
He hops in there.
Well, I've had people try and tell me how much of a pussy I am for that.
Right.
Oh, black bears, they don't give anybody.
It was near hibernation.
They weren't hungry.
They were already fat.
Yeah, right.
I even did have the thought once I got in the shed that, well, if I have deer and turkey eating out of my hands here, I think that these bears are probably very well fed because the local prey isn't worried about them.
And I know they don't do a lot of hunting, but like, I just figured they're well fed.
There's plenty of trash to eat.
People probably feed them.
They're not starving.
They weren't aggressive with me at all or whatever.
But I'm not taking my chances with them.
They're flexing a wood.
Get ready.
And like you can tell me how tough you are and how you would have put the band head back.
And like, I don't know.
But yeah, I don't know.
I don't close.
This wasn't 100 feet away.
Yeah.
We got pictures of them.
The one was 20, the other was 30.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Too close.
Last one.
I've got plenty, but I'll save them for later.
Unbeknownst to us, it was the night before our dear potato was due to arrive in this world.
You know, wife is getting ready to pop, totally uncomfortable.
So Jo and I took the other two kids to a minor league.
It was either single A or maybe college league baseball game.
And great time under the lights.
Kids are having a blast playing with other kids on the stadium stands.
And they happen to have some really killer cider.
I'm not a cider guy.
I don't like sours like Sam.
But we're just like, man, this cider is really good.
So J-O and I, you know, we're being responsible, keep an eye on the kids.
They're just playing, watching some baseball, having some drinks up in the stands.
We take an Uber back home with the kids.
And, you know, we roll in a little bit worse for the wear.
And there is my dear wife saying, it's time.
Well, I'm, I'm ready to go.
And we just looked at each other like, oops, you know, kind of, you know, freaking fracked, got in trouble again.
And she even let me sleep a little bit longer before we went to the hospital, probably at three or four in the morning.
And then she finally said it's really time.
So JO guarded the house while we rushed off to the hospital.
I took my obligatory shower.
She'll never let me live down the fact that for all three of our kids, I always had to take a shower first before going to the hospital.
You never know how long you're going to be there and be on those uncomfortable couches.
And yeah, JO guarded the home front.
And before you knew it, I was home saying that little potato had arrived very quickly before the epidural kicked in and all was well.
So very, very fond memories.
I miss you dearly, buddy.
Haven't seen you in far too long.
I'll try to bribe you to move near me one day, but it sounds like I'd be pissing up a rope.
Anything else from Sam or Rolo or from Jo before we let you get going, bud?
Let me tell my side of that story real quick.
The potato came is I'm out on the back deck and I had just gotten off the phone with an R guy thing and it's three in the morning probably.
I'd have to unbreak my old phone because I still have the text or whatever, but I was actually on my Sky View app that shows you all the stars and planets and satellites and stuff in the sky because Mars was really close.
Great sky guide.
Yeah.
And but I was looking through my phone at Mars and it has like this cool spacey soundtrack music when the text pops up on my screen.
It's time to go.
We'll see you tomorrow, I think it says.
And yeah, then I went inside.
I slept on the chair downstairs on the recliner so that the kids would see me first thing instead of going into the bedroom in the basement.
I slept there and I left a note out.
Watch it.
It said, timestamp roller.
Name dropped both our kids.
It's okay.
But I left him a note to wake me up because you guys went to the hospital and the baby was coming.
Yeah.
And that's exactly what they did.
Yep.
Very fond memories.
And yeah, damn glad to have you as a friend still after all these years and all the drama and all the turmoil and all the stuff that swirls around out there.
You will come back on the show relatively soon.
Yeah, I got to talk about breathwork sometime.
So I'll come back.
Yeah.
I don't have time tonight.
I do got to get out of here, but I figured out what song we're going to do because this was a song that was on a playlist that played at your house all the time around the time of all these stories taking place, the birth of potato, the parties, all that kind of stuff.
Because I just heard it the other day at a shopping center.
Say Geronimo, I think it's called.
Or maybe it's just called Geronimo.
That's right.
Yep.
That was the hit when he was born.
Absolutely.
And it's a great song.
Thank you, man.
I have to say, I asked the two older kids tonight, I was like, Do you guys, do you guys remember Joe?
And they looked at me like I was a dummy and they were like, Of course.
Yeah.
Just smirk.
You think we're stupid?
You think we're little babies?
They remember me.
All right, brother.
Godspeed, fam.
We'll be back with Sam and Rolo.
We still have a lot more in the second half.
Break this one up if you have to after the long first half.
This is Geronimo.
God bless Jo, his wife, and his lovely son.
We wish them many sons and a lot of guns, as Jim used to say.
And we'll be right back.
Thanks, buddy.
See you.
Now it's coming back.
We can steal it.
If you bridge this gap, I can see you through the curtains of the waterfall.
When I lost it, yeah, you held my hand, but I tossed it.
Didn't understand.
You were waiting as I tove into the waterfall.
So saved Geronimo.
Save Geronimo.
Say that Geronimo.
Say Geronimo.
Save Geronimo.
Say Geronimo.
Save Geronimo.
Give me the miles away.
all the way.
Save your own.
Well, we rushed it, moving way too fast.
And we crushed it.
But it's in the past.
We can make this leap through the curtains of the waterfall.
So saved you on the road.
Save Geronimo.
Say that you're on the road.
Save Geronimo.
Save Geronimo.
Say Geronimo.
Say Geronimo.
Miles away.
Well, I'm just a boy with a broken toy.
Oh, Boston boy.
So it's here I stand as a broken man.
But I found my friend.
Now we're falling down through the crashing sound.
And you come around.
And you are so sick.
Save Geronimo.
Say that you're not a road.
Save your non-mote.
Save your motorboat.
Welcome back
to Full House, episode 151, abbreviated second half.
After that super self-indulgent J.O. Lovefest hug box in the first Half.
In all sincerity, if you couldn't tell already, I dearly treasure Jo as a friend.
I'm damn glad that he came back on.
I'm a little bit proud that I was able to drag him back to the microphone, kicking and screaming.
And yes, I do sincerely hope that he will continue to be a regular with us and we shall see.
Give him lots of love in the comments.
I don't know, on Telegram or something.
Maybe I'll be able to forward it to him.
But he, in particular, sacrificed a lot of time.
And then eventually they did get his scalp via docs.
And he's been in touch and a loving husband and father throughout all that stuff.
And so should you, should you decide to get involved with us or if you are involved with us, stay that way, please.
In the new white life category, a big one, our good pal, I can say it, Rusty Rockwell, and his lovely, beautiful wife are officially expecting their third do something this year.
Absolutely.
And not back to back to back.
They're not Irish, but you know, nice, nice, nice spacing on the kiddos.
And he's a true professional.
He wanted to wait until they got all the good news, was okay with giving an announcement before the actual arrival.
Two of the nicest, smartest, best people I know in this thing.
And just got to say he knows it.
Got to keep going.
Keep going.
Have more.
Have more.
Because their other kids are delightful and keep it going.
When you get a stinker, that's when you know it's time to stop.
The last one is always the worst.
No, I'm kidding.
Sam's like, I love my youngest son.
Congratulations, guys.
And just one nice one in the inbox.
Before I do that, I don't care if the audience is tired of hearing of it, hearing about it.
I am sincerely sorry for the delay in the show again.
Rollo and I were ready to go with Jo last week.
And I just had this bone in my mouth where I really wanted to get Jo back on.
It was important to me given all the sort of bad vibes that have been going around for the past month and disenchantment, just disillusionment a little bit with the cause, with the movement.
You can sense that we're in a little bit of a lull or spirits are low.
And Jayo was the guy for a long time, for many years.
He was a damn good friend and a good soldier for the cause.
And I thought it was important to bring him back and let people know that, no, old soldiers don't just go away and die or whatever the old saying is.
They continue on with their lives, whether they're constantly connected to us 24-7 via 6 million chats or whether it's just one or two or you just have a phone call to catch up with an old friend time and again.
So again, I'll leave it at that.
I think I have blown enough smoke his way for one show.
Kind note from the inbox.
Hello, coach and fam.
just wanted to reach out via letter and share the appreciation and love of the show.
I've been listening for a bit now, and it is by far my favorite podcast on the dissident right.
The good humor and honesty is very relatable.
I myself am not a father or married, but Full House gives me plenty of hope for finding a wife and having plenty of white babies.
Being a young Catholic makes it a little hard to find a suitable girlfriend, especially where I live.
I guess you can read between the lines there.
I would think being a young Catholic makes it easier, but again, maybe not in this fallen society.
Regardless, he says, however, sooner or later, I will enjoy the sanctity and pleasure of marriage and fatherhood as you guys inspire me.
Keep up the good work.
And he said to just leave that one anonymous.
Thank you, buddy.
Best of luck to you.
Godspeed means the world to us.
Appreciate the kind feedback.
Sam, I get a sense that religiosity is coming more to the forefront and we have more guys rediscovering religion and discovering it for the first time.
Are you getting now?
And I'm sure there are some people in the audience rolling their eyes and calling that a cope or a distraction or a de-radicalization effort.
But, you know, hey, better to have it.
Yeah.
Better to have that on the side than not.
It's tricky.
It's tricky because all the major religions are controlled by the enemy completely.
So if you are, yeah.
Yeah.
If you are getting into some kind of religion like the trad Catholic stuff, that means you're going to be in some kind of peripheral edge type group that where you can blend in or hide even amongst them.
And so it is tricky because let's not kid ourselves.
Every major religion will perform an interracial marriage.
Every major religion will carry the anti-white narrative and things like that, let alone not even addressing all the gay stuff and everything like that.
So it is a minefield.
However, if you can get into something, let's just take the trad Catholic thing for a moment.
If you can find a good group, man, there's a lot of kids, a lot of teenagers.
If you can't find a young girl to date in that, then man, you're doing something wrong.
There's just a lot of lot of life there.
And so, you know, I give a mixed review there.
Tread lightly, be careful.
You know, if you want to be a Christian, let's say, then you got to look back and look deeply back into times where there was a different kind of understanding about things like race mixing, interracial marriage, and even things about race and especially the Jewish question and all those types of things.
So, you know, and I'm not even going to lead into my own understanding of those things at the moment.
You know where I'm coming from there.
So, you know, I'll just kind of leave it at that.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
And I think we're going to have super, super Lutheran and another prominent gentleman in that sphere on the show soon.
I haven't actually spoken to him about it.
It was more of a mutual friend saying, you guys should really come on.
And they said they'd be happy to.
We haven't talked too much religion for a while.
You know, candidly, I never listened to the Godcast because in the whole panoply of content out there, I was like, I'm not really super keen on the religious stuff.
but many people I've heard that, man, those guys know their Bible back and forth and can recall it at a moment's notice.
So good on them.
We can have a fun conversation with them.
Unfortunately, we will be disagreeing more than agreeing in that case.
Fair enough.
Come with your sword, Sam.
Be ready to spar.
No problem.
Be a referee.
And another good friend of the show let me and a lot of other people know that there is a growing sphere or movement of content of very religious Christians who are not at all cringe or cucked in any way and are basically saying our same things.
And again, you know, I don't listen to that sphere.
He said it's a very positive development.
This is our guy who knows the score and is devoutly Christian himself.
And he said, look, and this channel is another comment from somebody else recently who said, look, I'm coming to the realization that race alone or religion alone are inadequate.
But if you could bring race and religion together on the same team to move forward, that would be doing us a huge favor.
I couldn't, you know, whatever my qualms and skepticism, I couldn't disagree that that would be a powerful one too.
And you know that the audience or the enemy would be very, and they are very concerned.
Sure.
You know, they're all over the place in terms of what they're worried about.
They're worried about the January 6th remnant.
They're worried about Alex Jones.
They're worried about first.
They're worried about religious conservatives.
They're still worried about us.
You know, it's frustrating.
And it's like, yes, we all wish that we were all united under one grand leader and ideology and moving forward in one direction.
But unfortunately, we're just going to have to keep soldiering on in the trenches for a little bit longer or a lot longer.
Whatever.
We'll find out.
But hang it.
Hang in.
Hang in there, fam.
You know, if there's, I said privately recently that, you know, this is, this has been a tough few months.
I don't mind sharing it on the air.
For the first time, I've been thinking to myself, God, was it all worth it?
Was I stupid for getting involved in this?
And then I always come back and I ask JO that same thing.
Did your ideology change?
Has your worldview changed?
Oh, no, not at all.
I'm just interacting with you in a slightly different way and in a different manner.
Well, you really have, you have to own the thing.
You know, you got to have a rationale that stands up to the rigor of it and everything like that.
And you are the person that needs to convince yourself of where we are and what we have.
Yep.
I care deeply about the cause.
I believe 100% in all of our consensus ideologies.
And I'm just starting to have a little bit of fatigue about the struggle and which way forward.
And that's okay.
I think one thing I don't never want to lie to the audience or hide something that's important, but that's been kicking around my head a lot recently.
But more relevant to this abbreviated second half, Sam, you recently hit the road with at least some of your family and let us know whatever was relevant from that or any takeaways, if you would.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I hope I have something poignant or, you know, some kind of point to what I'm saying, but maybe I just offer some reflections and let it let it cards fall where they may.
Yeah, we went down to Orlando this recently.
Let's say that.
And I did not attend a particular event that was happening in that locale.
Let's just say that.
I did not attend that.
But I did go down there and meet with various comrades who I will not name either because I don't want to put them at any kind of risk either.
So we did go down there and I just couldn't help but be struck by we got on the plane very early morning.
We were up at 6 a.m. to get to the airport and we're getting on the plane.
It was eight degrees over here.
It was nasty and dark and cold.
And we get off the plane.
It's 78 degrees.
And the thing that struck me probably sounds like Captain Obvious, but all the palm trees was just very beautiful, you know, and getting off and it was warm and everything like that.
And so we second guess your choice of residence for a split second.
Well, yeah, there's yeah, there's a lot to be said for that.
But yeah, we got going and we went to First Friday Mass.
You know, it's a custom to attend nine First Fridays, first Friday of the month, nine months in a row is a particular trad Catholic thing to do.
It has to do with making reparations to the sacred heart, you know, all the all of the callous ways that people toss around the holy name or, you know, just for all the indifference and sin in the world, we make up for a little bit by some extra prayers and extra masses.
So anyways, that's what the First Friday is about.
And when we were planning this event, you know, that was one of my thoughts.
It's like, all right, we're going to be out of town.
We have to make plans for First Friday, you know.
So we have actually a good listener.
I'll remain nameless, a friend of the show who was Trad Catholic, is a Trad Catholic as well.
So we went there with his family and attended Mass there in his place.
And we went out for drinks later.
And, you know, I wasn't the only one headed down there under these auspices.
That is, you know, having thought we were going there for a certain event and then could not attend that event.
And so a local comrade actually joined me with our friend down there and his family for some good drinks and good times and good laughs at a wonderful local place.
And then we went the next day, we went to this, I just got to throw this out there.
If you ever go down to Orlando area in a town just adjacent is a place called the Morse Museum, which is, it's going to be, it's getting very long-winded, but let's just say he was an industrialist.
He made his money.
He was actually from Chicago and his daughter and him would go down as snowbirds down to Orlando area.
And then when he died, she inherited his fortune.
And he spent a lot of his time and money acquiring the works of Louis Comfort Tiffany, who you may have heard of like Tiffany lamps and things like that.
And he did a lot more than just lamps.
He bought up a lot of like Baroque art, which was not in fashion at the time in the late 1800s.
And so more Tiffany bought up these old Baroque art pieces and he would transfer them into making the stained glass.
And he made a lot of not only objects like lamps and things, but also just beautiful pieces, you know, windows and things like that.
And so we went to that museum, which is really something to see because one of the rooms in there, it's a chapel that was made for the Columbian Exposition that was in Chicago, something like 1904 or something like that.
I'd have to look it up, but very breathtaking pictures.
They were among just a few pictures that I took.
Everyone else is snapping pictures constantly.
I don't like to take a lot of pictures.
I like to experience it more myself, you know.
But this beautiful chapel, traditional altar, of course, would have been at that time and that style of Tiffany, you know, and the whole thing was – go ahead.
Was this Samuel Morse?
Sorry, the Morse Industrial?
No, no, no.
Charles Hossmer Morse.
You can look it up.
And there probably are some wonderful pictures online of some of the different things.
And it was funny because the previous night we were having some drinks.
And then our friend from Chicago is a very young looking guy.
And he is a young guy and he looks very young.
And we were joking like, all right, he's him and my son, they're going to be my homeschool students, you know, and we'll try to get him in for free or something.
And so we go to the museum and they said, okay, what's your zip code?
And then she knew where we were from.
She said, oh, okay.
So that'll be okay for you and your wife.
That's six bucks each.
And the two students get in for free.
And I'm like, whoa, we didn't even have to sell her the scheme.
She just booked it, you know?
But that was wonderful.
And if you ever get down there, man, that was absolutely one of our highlights was this museum.
And I won't go on too much, too much more about that.
I will give you one racial observation or a couple, maybe a couple of quick ones.
One is, you know, we didn't, it's not so much a problem there.
There were white people working there.
But when you go into a museum in the big city, it's all Negroes working there, you know, and you have to wonder, like in, let's say, the Art Institute or something, here's all this artwork, which is all the work of white men, not even white people, just white, 95% of it is white men.
And everyone working there is black.
And what must they think, you know, as they look around at all these wonders, although they probably can't even appreciate it.
Well, they don't, they can't even think.
They can't even think like that.
Yeah.
And, but, you know, it's just ironic.
Anyways, it wasn't quite that, quite that bad here.
That's one observation.
But the other, there was this one panel and it was this, it was like eight parts and it was said like creation and science, astronomy, geology, something else, you know, eight different panels.
But the first one, creation.
And there's Adam and Eve.
And guess what?
Adam and Eve are white.
You know, and the thing is, you might say like, okay, so what?
Yeah, I know, but if you came there and Adam and Eve were black or any other color, you'd say, what's what's with this window here that they have Adam and Eve as anything other than white?
Because we all know innately that Adam and Eve were white and the other races are not, you know, descended from them.
And I just couldn't help but put that there.
And not only that, but I suppose some sort of woke liberal idiot modern person would say that, oh, well, Louis Comfort Tiffany was an ignorant bigot.
Really?
Do you think he was?
This man was an architect.
This man was a scientist.
This man was an artist.
This man, he made his money making furnaces and he was a philanthropist.
So I think maybe he wasn't an ignorant person, right?
But anyways, that was my little observation there.
We went on to, so another good friend that I'd met on previous events and shall remain nameless.
He has also a wonderful big family that he had with him and his wife.
And so we were to meet them for lunch.
So we cut out of the Morse Museum by a certain time so we could meet them.
He says, okay, let's meet at Lake Eola Park and we'll get some food and we'll eat in the park because when you got that many people, it's hard to get seating.
I said, okay, great.
So we get to the park and we get there first.
And I mean, I don't know what else to say except that it was gay AF, if you know what I'm getting at there.
And we're walking through the park and there's this transsexual guy with some something like padding stuffed in the butt to make it look big and his big, obvious blonde wig on and he's he's handing out flyers.
And I could see some guy like has stopped there and is, I don't know, maybe arguing with him.
I said, let's walk clear around this thing because I don't want to talk to this guy.
I don't want him to approach us or anything.
And so we walk around, but it was horrible.
I mean, there's gay stuff everywhere.
There's a big band shell all in the rainbow colors.
And we saw a couple of men with like a little child that's obviously, you know, they're fags with this child.
And so it was, and I'm thinking, dude, when was the last time you were here?
And how did you pick this as a meeting point, you know?
And it turns out he's like seven, eight hours away.
He just picked it like by looking at a map or something.
So nothing against him.
It was kind of funny.
But then our friend that had also traveled from our area, but he had traveled separately.
So he's, he's, you know, we're all communicating by phone.
And I said, okay, we're over here in the park.
And he's, here he comes.
He's walking.
He walks right up to this transsexual.
He takes the flyer and he says something.
And I was like, it was just funny.
He had the opposite strategy.
You know, he got a good laugh out of it.
And, but we had a wonderful time there, but it was, it was very nice because this wonderful family.
And so they had like the 15-year-old girl and my son, who is 16, you know, they happened to, you know, they just started, you know, you could see that they were kind of talking, you know.
So when you say about, you know, Christian people meeting up or being, is religion a good vehicle for young people to meet?
Well, there you go, you know, there you go.
And so that was very nice.
And later then we went to Icon Park, which is kind of a, I don't know, just various amusements there.
They have the gigantic Ferris wheel and they have the wax museum and they have some different things there.
And because, well, we wanted to go to the Kennedy Space Center, but that was, first of all, it's $80, something over $80 a person.
And they're only open till like 5 p.m.
So you could see we would have not had much time there.
So we said, what else is there?
Okay, Icon Park.
So we go there.
Sounds like a good deal, $65 a person.
And at least it's open until like 10 p.m.
And so at least we get some time there.
And they want to sell you this ticket where they're, okay, you can go on any of these seven attractions or all of them.
And it's 65 bucks, which is, you know, if you bought them separately, it would be way more than that.
Okay, except of the seven things that you could get in, only two of them are open.
So it was, I felt a little bit ripped off at that point.
but we did go in the wax museum which was which was quite funny um i got a picture of me like giving the double middle finger to obama that was kind of funny and uh you know the other people seemed to enjoy it more than i did though it was uh uncanny how lifelike the things were but um hate crimes sam double figures to the wax figure yeah well it's there was there was There was Obama there and I did that.
And then I was going into the next room where was Marxist Lucifer King and then I saw like one of the custodians kind of walking through.
He didn't say anything to me, but I thought like certainly maybe they're looking at me on camera or something.
And I thought, all right, I better tone it down a little bit.
Play cool, Sam.
Play cool.
Yeah.
It's funny you mentioned getting off the, getting off the plane just real quick because I, when I was probably 10 or 11 years old, growing up in South Jersey, just randomly, like my grandma and my aunt were like, do you want to go to Disney World?
And I think they vetted it through my mom.
And I was like, you know, does a cat have an ass?
Does a Pope wear a fucking hat?
Of course I want to go to Disney World.
So I flew down to, I think we flew into Sarasota with my grandma, my aunt, and my cousin at the time, the same cousin who looks just like Hammer.
I always tell Hammer, we must be related because he's a ringer for my cousin.
And I remember that exact, especially as a young kid who had never flown before.
I had maybe flown as a baby, but not, you know, when I was cognizant of everything and getting off the plane and seeing those palm trees and feeling the warmth in January or February, whatever.
It's amazing.
What a magical place.
Orange trees.
Yeah.
Well, that's what I was going to go to next.
So the next morning, we go to we go to mass with our friends that we met up with down there.
And then he afterwards, he says, I want to take you to the real Florida.
You got to see the real Florida.
Florida man.
Let's go.
And so he takes us on this wonderful little walk through some like we would call forest preserve, but it's there.
It's all palm trees and everything.
But then the wild growing orange trees with oranges, ripe oranges hanging on the limbs and grapefruit trees.
And a big, beautiful yellow grapefruits hanging there.
So we had a very blessed time there.
And then our time was up and we were coming back.
So that's that was my trip.
Good stuff.
And you didn't go to Disney World.
You didn't do the other thing.
And you still had a great time and met up with the team, guys.
What a testament to the breadth of our movement that, yeah, that's.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
We had no lack of, I mean, we were busy.
It was, if anything, it was because I actually took that next Monday off because I needed to rest after all that because we were up early every day to make the most of the day.
We weren't certainly going to sleep until 10 or 11 a.m. and miss the opportunity to do things early in the day.
We were cursing you when you weren't ready to record last Sunday night and we weren't able to do it anyway.
And then I said to Jay, I was like, ah, let's just do it when Sam's back.
It'll be more fun anyway.
I kind of found Orlando to be, I mean, aside from like 10 year old Disney World and then going down there for an R guy thing probably four years ago, Orlando was kind of like, it was kind of a dump, I want to say.
I don't know if that's fair, but I just remember a lot of traffic and sprawl, you know, in Orlando proper, at least.
Not that that's relevant.
Yeah.
Well, my complaint was all the the I felt that the, it was nice in a lot of ways, but the gay element was so prolific.
And I pointed it out to somebody who, one of the people we met up with, and I said, man, what's yeah, that's how it is.
That's how Orlando is super homosexual.
Interesting dynamic in Florida that a state that was, of course, it was Democratic when Democrats were the real racist.
And then it was sort of, you know, purple, blue or whatever, and a big state with a ton of influx, a huge Hispanic population.
Yeah.
A lot of people.
It's, you know, it's possibly the launching pad for DeSantis.
I mean, we'll, we'll get into a little bit of politics as unfortunately the damn primaries and stuff are going to start consuming oxygen very soon.
Right.
So I don't want to do that now, but it is an interesting case story of a like, let's, you know, DeSantis is a total philo semite and I wouldn't be voting for him in any primary or presidential election.
We've been down that road before.
However, the sort of he reminds me of a Goomba, you know, like a wise guy who turned politician or something.
And he has done some fairly impressive things.
Now, whether it's more smoke than fire in terms of substance, but the state dynamic, and I keep, you know, I keep thinking, you know, like just a little bit of populism, a little bit of strongman persona, and you really can sort of change the dynamic, at least in a state, right?
There are things at foot at play here in the United States that you can work locally dynamically in as big of us as a state.
The country itself, you know, still probably far, too far gone.
Yeah.
Well, and you take, take a state like Florida.
Think of how many major cities you have there compared to a Midwestern state like Illinois.
You have Chicago, basically, and in Wisconsin, maybe you have Milwaukee and Madison or something.
I mean, but there you have probably eight or nine major cities.
I mean, and cities you think are hotbeds of leftism liberalism.
Yet you're still able to somehow convince people that pull it off.
Yeah.
Interesting.
You know, I'm wary of like getting too invested in quote unquote normie politics or whatever.
Again, left versus right, red versus blue.
However, you know, it's kind of where it's kind of where the fight is on, you know, as tragic and flawed as it may be.
Yeah.
I wanted to, I left a hanging chad from last show when I talked about, you know, Joe's son is getting older.
Your son is 16.
My oldest is starting to approach teen years and he's pretty advanced for his age.
The first thing that I wasn't going to mention, but I have no problem mentioning it on air is that I don't know if it's unique to where we are or to our kids.
I don't think it is, is that they are somewhat prim and proper when it comes to language.
Like if I say ass or son of a bitch or that bastard, he like looks over at me.
He's like, dad, can you please stop doing that?
And I'm like, okay, credit, credit where it's due.
There's a lot of young people that are kind of reactionary on those types of things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, I appreciate it.
I obviously I'm not profane, barely ever around the kids, but some of those like weasel curse words, I'm not too concerned about, right?
Yeah.
Let it out once in a while.
Cultural inquisitors here, but was on a long car ride with him a couple weeks ago.
And, you know, it was just myself and him.
And during those long car rides, sometimes you just want quiet.
You know, you don't have to be chit-chatting all the time.
I would hate it on long car rides when like, you know, mom or dad would like just sort of force conversation when you're just chilling in the back, maybe listening to your disc man or reading.
But after enough silence, I'm like, all right, this enough quiet time has gone by.
And I told him, I said, you know, you're coming up on the age when I was about 12 or 13.
And that was when my parents took me on a family trip to Washington, D.C.
And that was when I had the epiphany that I wanted to go to school there and that I wanted to work in government in one way or another.
And that one experience sort of planted the seed in my head.
That's what I want to do with my life.
And then I asked him, you know, do you know, have any idea?
You don't have to, what you want to do with your life.
He's got a couple ideas that we kicked around.
But then we talked about college, which of course is the next big decision, major decision, you know, six, seven, eight years out for him.
And we talked about the old WASP elite.
He didn't know what WASP stood for, which was good.
We talked about the Ivy League and how it used to be a WASP stronghold, essentially.
And how it's that those days are now regarded as, yeah, male, young or male, pale, and Yale was the derision cast upon, you know, the elite class that came from there.
And the very real conversation about, okay, well, it depends on what you want to do with your life and whether college is worth it.
And depending on what you want to do, how aggressive you want to be in targeting a university or a college for your launching pad to a career, to making money, to becoming stable, to becoming self-essentially independent.
And it was, it was more one way.
It was more me spitting real talk toward him, but I could tell that he was listening and absorbing it all.
And I just wanted to, you know, again, he's not so old that it's a very urgent decision to make, but I don't think it was wrong to get him, get his non-at least start thinking about it.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And if, and if you're gonna, you know, if you have to go to an elite university or a semi-elite university for what you think you want to do with your life, then you have to balance the cost and how impressively anti-white and gay and Jewish and minority dominated is it going to be.
Somebody said, just send all of your kids to the Colorado School of Mines to go be mining engineers because apparently they don't harbor any bullshit.
Oh, yeah.
Like a good engineering school, a lot of times will have that reputation as being maybe not, you know, right wing or what, just like more conservative and minus those bad elements, you know.
That's that, I think that is true.
I would say that, boy, any, you know, if somebody's a real exception to this rule, fine.
But to just go off to college, I think is crazy now.
I think that, I mean, even myself at age 18, I had no idea, you know, where I was going or anything.
I think you got to work for a couple of years doing anything, really, because it just gives you a grounding of how things work in the world.
And you see the people who apply themselves or do not.
And you make a little money and you learn a little bit how to spend money and save money or properly use money.
I think that I would tell anybody, work for a couple of years before you entertain the idea of going to college.
I think that's the best thing.
Oh, and yeah, I would almost rather him join, you know, enlist in the military for two years than go to college without without an idea of what right.
You got to really learn.
People at age 18 are not mature anymore.
And even in my day, they're barely mature enough.
And now I would say an 18-year-old is like a child to me.
Yeah.
Oh, and I had a relatively good head on my shoulders.
I was a very dutiful student, good SAT.
I knew roughly what I wanted to do with my life.
And still, when I got to college at 18, I was like, oh, man, it is time to party and kick loose.
All I got to do is keep this GPA to keep my academic scholarship, etc.
And, you know, there were certain, I was in a fraternity too, and there were certain things that were either imposed on me or that once I was a little bit older in the fraternity that we insisted on others that, you know, you hear the horror stories.
It's all it's tough as a parent.
You see the story of like, you know, oh, yeah, kids die in fraternities from hazing, from drinking too much.
It happens, happens all the time.
It could, it could, it could have happened to me or it could have happened to one of the guys in the fraternity.
I think I'm like, oh, God, if I sent my son to some big, some big state school or even like exclusive private school and then he wakes up choking on his own vomit from getting hazed the night before, I would never be able to live with myself again.
Or to even be in that environment and even be in that environment.
You know, I mean, yeah, it's unthinkable.
Yeah, you want, you want them to fly, but you know that there's risk.
Yeah.
Depending on where they want to fly.
Rolo, did you watch, did you watch the Super Bowl?
Make sure he's not.
Are you retarded?
Okay.
Thank you.
All right.
Yeah.
I'm only going to.
No, every, every year when the Super Bowl happens, I find out about it just because people are talking about it the day of.
Oh, I care so little about.
And this isn't like me saying like, aren't I so cool?
Cause I don't care about Negro ball.
No, I literally, I don't know anything about sports like professionally.
Good for you.
So like, like when people watch it and they talk about it, I remember years ago, Steve Dave and I, we were hanging out and he was watching video game footage and it was some game that was not released yet.
He was just watching it.
It was something that was going to be coming out.
And the guy said to him, why would you watch anyone play video games when you could just do it yourself?
And I said, why do you, why do you watch sports when you do it yourself?
You know, Rolo, in my new, in my new spirit, we did.
So I knew the Super Bowl was coming up.
Wifey was temporarily out of town, had the kids.
And because I watched that stupid Eagles playoff game at my parents' house, because my parents are big Eagles fans in South Jersey now, they have a good team this year.
I was like, you know what?
I'm going to put it on.
I have, I've done the whole thing.
I've been a huge sports ball guy.
I have said, I'm not watching this thing.
Damn it.
It's, you know, just garbage.
And I refuse to watch it.
And I've passively watched it.
So this year I said, you know what?
I'm going to invite some friends over.
We're going to, it's going to be on the TV.
If you want to see it from an anthropological perspective, watch the commercials, see what's going on, see how anti-white it is.
So we had it on.
But more important than that is one of our guests said, you know, I've been, he paid nice compliments to the final storm.
The final storm is on his regular listen list, Rolo.
All right.
There you go.
Yeah.
True story.
But as it turns out, we had it on the TV and I was talking to some of the guests outside.
I started a fire.
The kids went down to the valley to play some soccer, jump on the trampoline.
We were so busy.
And then it was dinner time, threw some burgers and dogs on the grill.
Guests brought over chili that it was on TV, but nobody was watching it.
And it wasn't a forced thing either.
Like I had it on.
It was on the menu and nobody chose to bite, which is probably a reflection of the parents not showing interest.
And then that sort of, you know, transferring down to the kids, like they didn't give a rat's ass.
So what do I want to watch?
Commercials, Dad?
Yeah.
Did you all get together and flip over a car at least?
I saw that out of Philly and I was so disgusted.
Yeah.
All those, all those meatheads.
Because in the new spirit of like, all right, let me, this year I was like, I'm going to watch the game.
Maybe I'll live tweet it or maybe I'll, you know, study it for cultural analysis purposes.
And lo and behold, I, you know, I put it on.
I was like, okay, I really don't give a rat's ass as to what comes out of this.
I see the end racism in the end zone and love on their helmets and stuff like that and the worship of the two semi-black, semi-white quarterbacks.
And I was like, oh, we can do, it wasn't even a conscious decision.
It was just like, there are better things to do with our time.
So I set out to watch it out of curiosity and then ended up not doing it because it really does suck.
Yeah.
You know, yeah, I'm not going to recant my anti-sports ball take.
And I'm not going to disparage anybody who gets excited for the Super Bowl.
Go get some shrimp and beer and whatever and has fun with it once a year or whatever.
But it's really the bacchanal of like Thursday night football, Saturday night, there's Saturday night football, Sunday night football, Monday night football that I'm still going to look down my normal Aryan-sized nose at anybody.
Absolutely.
I will say I'll say one thing about the Super Bowl this year because people always talk about, well, the commercials are fun.
I generally have never cared about it, but there was a trailer for the Flash movie, which I don't have any real interest in.
But I did watch it because Michael Keaton is back as Batman.
And just like the 15 seconds or so that I saw that, it was like actually kind of exciting.
I was like, oh, yeah, that's fun.
Now, I, you know, I know it's going to be soulless because at the end they showed a like Mexican supergirl who was supposed to be blonde-haired, blue-eyed.
But, you know, it's like, you know, you had me and you lost me, which I knew was going to be the case.
But I was like, you know, it is nice to see Michael Keaton back as Batman.
Yeah.
Are you still consuming a lot of new Hollywood content, Rolo, or are you strictly, you know, relegated to the classics of the past?
Oh, no.
I think in the last four years, I've maybe seen like five new movies and one was a cartoon.
And, you know, and two of them were Halloween sequels.
Those were both terrible.
But did you go to see Top Gun Maverick, though?
My favorite movie of the last 10 years.
No, no, no, no.
I do need to see that one.
That's the one that just everyone says is good.
Yeah.
But no, no, I saw the two Halloween sequels that were terrible.
I saw Spider-Man, which was actually good.
It was unironically a very good movie.
A cartoon.
And I don't know.
Maybe I saw something else.
I guess I saw the Batman, but I only hate watch that because I wanted to do an episode on it.
But yeah, I don't really care, but there isn't really anything being released anymore because there used to be like maybe a blockbuster every week.
And then now they're five, six a year.
It's very sparse.
Like they're not even putting out like regular Star Wars stuff.
Like they've really dialed it back.
And it's all because nobody wants to see what they're putting out because when they put something out, they have to fill it with gays and blacks.
They have to.
And nobody likes it.
Right.
So I just, I just, and I don't want to see, like, I am at the point where I get like viscerally angry.
Like when I see a black, like I start doing like that, that mocking, like, oh, yeah, we get.
Like, I just like, I, and I just catch myself doing that.
I'm like, what am I doing?
Like, this is like a commercial for like Clorox.
And then I'm just whipped into a frenzy.
And then, and then I just, I just, I can't do it.
Yeah.
We end, yeah, we ended up only watching the very end of the game when it was very tight and very close.
And I was like, all right, this, you know, I was like, all right, so here's, here's the score.
You know, this is what the, they're running down the clock.
Just so that like Junior at least knew how football worked and how the strategy worked.
And then the last play where they had to throw a Hail Mary.
And I was like, they have a very negligible chance of pulling this off.
But if they do, it would be epic or whatever.
And then, of course, it fell short.
And it was like, okay, game over.
School tomorrow.
Fun's over.
Last tidbit I want to tease Sam with here is a phenomenon that may be unique to my area of Appalachia, West Virginia.
And that is, and Rolo, feel free to chime in here too, but I can't resist the phenomenon of the good, normal country black.
I know, Sam, where you live, you have sort of the worst of the worst, the real alien, Cretan, criminal, violent, degenerate types.
And I know you're not a fan of them, but does the good black phenomenon enter your mind lexicon?
Oh, you probably work with them.
I know you think you're devil, but my wife and I have both noticed, like we've had some very, here's an example.
We went on the ride home from grandma and grandpa's like a month ago.
I don't call me Cucky, whatever.
This is a true story.
There was a guy who's clearly a trucker or a van driver.
We were in the bathroom.
I was with Potato, which is a little pit stop.
And a guy came in and he like maybe opened the door a little too quickly or he was trying to leave and like bumped potato with the door.
And he was extremely polite, sorry, and respectful, you know, that he had like just slightly bumped him with a door.
And we said, oh, you know, no problem, sir.
He went out of his way to be a polite gentleman in a case where he had made a minor transgression.
And it just like, you know, stuck up in Macro.
Any reaction to that, Sam, or the phenomenon?
No, I mean, I've, I've worked with them and gone to school with them my entire life.
So I'm aware of the so-called good ones, unquote.
You know, I can only say that there's so few good ones that they literally exercise no effect on the bulk group.
Sure, you know, just in the same way, you know, that there's, there's one that acts like that.
That's, I mean, I, I act in a gentlemanly way myself every day when I have to interact with them.
And I've known some that are, that have been thoughtful.
And there was, there was one guy I worked with for many years and every year on my birthday, he would give me a bottle of whiskey.
So, you know, that's, that's mighty nice and thoughtful.
I would only say that keep in mind that they, they would absolutely murder and butcher their best friend.
So they would do it to you too, you know, despite being kind to you that one time, you know, he could, you know, kill and gut your wife too.
That's they, that there are stories like that every day where one of them kills their best friend or their first cousin or whatever it is.
So even after being, you know, non-criminal or friendly or long-term employee, long, long-time employee with no issues comes in and shoots up a place.
Yep.
Yeah.
Never let, yeah, never let, never let your guard down.
No.
No need, no need to be an asshole to strangers.
No.
No, absolutely not.
Be a nice person, be a good person all the time.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
All right.
Well, I got I got a thing to say on this.
Please do.
So I got something.
To say oh, you want to do it in Durrell?
No see well, Darrell's cool, everyone likes Durrell.
Yeah see, there you go.
I could say he's one of the good ones, absolutely get along with the real perfectly.
Yeah yeah no Darrell, we relate to him.
But the i've said this for a while now is blacks really do the the monkey?
See monkey do, and I think that's why a lot of them work, because they see other one, like other people are working, so they just think like oh, that's a thing I have to do.
And when you do encounter good blacks, they're almost always like the one black in the white town.
So they, they do emulate the white behavior and it and again it's the black brain is different, so it's not like they understand it.
They'll still chimp out over nothing, but for the most part like, oh yes, oh no.
So like they, I just bust number, chip rope like they, they are like that.
But you get them, get them around five blacks, and then oh, what's up, that was good, you put it bring them back to whites like oh hello, how you doing today.
They really do do that and I I think that this is probably a pretty accurate.
Uh, this is a just a guess, but I think it's probably pretty close.
For every good Black, it's probably 50, 000 that wear their pants around their knees and kill people, just to show you that they're not weird.
Few and far between, for sure.
Yeah, like it probably is like one to fifty thousand.
Yeah, just based on how many there are here and like what the crime rate is.
For now i'm really gonna step in at what's the ratio of good Jews to bad Jews versus good Blacks to bad black.
Black, good Blacks is one to 50.
Good Jews is zero to zero.
Okay, a hard line rollo.
I was gonna say one to six million.
Yeah yeah, that's what I thought he was gonna say too.
No, but Jews are like Blacks in that sense, like there could be the, the Jew in your white town, and then you know they, you know they code switch, but you.
But at the end of the day, it's not like like that Black that's in the white town, he's going to be surrounded by white people, so those are going to be who he interacts with.
He's not going to be corresponding to other Blacks where that Jew in the white town.
He is going to be corresponding to Jews.
Because people used to use this argument, oh, is that Jew that owns the bagel shop?
Is he trying to kill you?
Um well one, you don't know that that is a thing that exists, that's just a hypothetical, that's been passed around.
But two, if it does exist, he almost certainly donates to the ADL and he knows what the ADL is doing, or one of those type of agencies, and he knows what those groups are doing.
So yes, he is trying to destroy you.
Yeah, these things are like bulk effects, you might say, just like in science, there's bulk effects of things.
I mean yeah, where it's not any one individual element is responsible for something, but the bulk effect is quite clear and undeniable, absolutely certain.
Certainly not suggesting that is not the case.
It's just interesting when you have those regular life interactions where you're like, oh yeah, he was polite and respectful and apologized for a slight transgression.
Don't let him fool you coach, thank you.
For years I I, I was good friends with a, with a black guy.
Yeah, you know he was part white, but you know he was, he was still black.
Yes, very clearly, this guy's black but um like, he was raised around white people and he ended up having a child and he let his child wear a dress like his.
It was him for the male, so it's just like, well, what do you do?
Yeah, even this good one like he's.
He's around a bunch of white people, but he's around the worst kind.
So now he's, he's turning.
I mean I, I don't know, I guess it.
He said his son feels comfortable doing it and i'm pretty sure all blacks are gay only.
But by you know, Q and me I had a lot of Jewish friends and Mishling friends in college, in particular through the fraternity, and one of the closest ones the last time I met him we were having beers, shooting the shit out on the deck and uh, the subject of Neoconservatives in the Iraq war came up and I just said it's objectively true that that was a war that was created due to Jewish influence in our government.
And this Mishap, Mishling took great umbrage and I remember his eyes going wide and getting like very worked up and I was just as angry and I was pounding the table.
I was like, don't you dare look at me in the face with those offended eyes and tell me that's not the case.
You know Fights Wolfowitz, I could rattle them off until kingdom come, and that was the last time we hung out and then another couple Jews who were close buddies in college you know, college friendships tend to last until they don't last uh, and I even remember my dad.
You know my dad had a lot of college friendships, remember going to like houses as a kid to visit them and eventually they petered out.
But a couple of Jews came over, had a reasonable enough uh time with the family, grilling etc.
And then I got a call like a month later.
I think they had been drinking, they were out of the bars and they were like, uh hey coach, I I noticed that you had Mine Kampf on your bookshelf.
What's going on there, big guy, saturday night.
And I said you know what?
There's worse things now.
Sam was, I should have said Talmud, but at the time I said the Old Testament.
I said there's more genocidal, nasty stuff in the Old Testament than there is in Mine Kampf Buster.
And that was the last time we spoke.
But you know, it was just.
It was just funny that those old friendships that you know, once they're encountered with someone who sees uh, a few years go past, then you start to see the teeth come out, even if they're your old pals from drinking and cavorting days.
But it would have been really cool though, if you instead called him Bozo, because Bozo is a cool thing to call someone.
Hey, there's a worse things in the Talmud there.
Bozo, Shlomo would have been better.
Rollover no no no Bozo okay Bozo, well.
And why wouldn't somebody like that say well listen, coach here, and then give like a, a well-reasoned counterpoint to say like well, wait a minute.
Okay yeah, you have a point there, but did you think of this?
You know what I mean?
Like where is the?
You know when?
The way we would extend, like an argument or try to make a point.
Where is that on their side?
It doesn't exist.
You can't have a conversation with these people.
Everything is extreme reaction and shaming and outrage and stuff like that.
Yep.
No, yeah, everything from seeing Mein Konf on the shelf to just having a conversation about the roots of the war in Iraq.
Yeah.
Amazing at how they got their Irish to barn from a different ethnicity.
And yeah, I got a couple nasty grams after my true views were exposed from old house.
Happen to be of the Jewish persuasion and one of their butt goy buddies.
I got those screen capped.
Maybe we'll put those out in the memoirs one day.
Regardless, we have gone long and we got stuff to do tomorrow.
So, Sam, thank you so much.
Honored, as always, to be flying with you.
All right.
Well, thank you.
It was a great show, certainly.
Great to be back.
Rollo, my friend, my talented producer, of whom I will never, ever say a bad word again.
Thanks for riding with us.
It's my pleasure, Bozo.
All right, Shlomo.
Okay.
Full House episode wonder if it was recorded on.
Have you ever seen Rolo's 23andMe?
I haven't.
Full House 151 was recorded on a balmy February 13th.
Now it is indeed Valentine's Day.
We're not going to say Valenstein's Day because Sam has educated us as to the Christian nobility background of the day, 2023.
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And of course, don't forget us in your philanthropy if you are so inclined.
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So no closing message for the audience.
Just honored to have JO back.
Be good to your friends and don't let anybody tell you who you can or cannot be friends with.
Unless, of course, there is a valid reason to discard someone, which is usually betrayal or severe degeneracy that cannot be corrected.
The abuse, addiction, adultery, all that stuff.
It's up to you.
Be good people.
Love each other.
Stick by the cause.
Don't be crazy.
And maybe we'll make it through here one decade or another.
To close this out, this is going to be my break music until JO brought in Geronimo.
And if you have ever seen the 80s classic Wall Street, Michael Douglas and Charlie Sheen, this is the closing song, which is from the Talking Heads.
However, it is a remake and upgrade, which has a little bit of synthwave tunes to it.
You'll know the name of the song, possibly.
This must be the place.
Do I have that right?
What the hell is the name of the song?
This must be the place.
Whatever.
We're going with it.
Regardless, it is by Brother Tiger.
I think you'll love it.
If you don't, don't let me know.
We love you, fam.
We'll talk to you next week, either just with the gang, with J.O., or we'll have a special guest.
We got plenty in the hopper and can't wait.
So, Sam, take us away.
See ya!
Pick me up and turn me round.
I feel numb, born with a weak heart.
This I must be having fun.
The less you say about it, the better.
Pick it up as we go along.
Feet on the ground, head in the sky.
It's okay, I know nothing's wrong, nothing.
High up, I got plenty of time.
High up, you got light in your eyes.
And you're standing here beside me.
I love the best thing we're done.
Never for money, always for love.
Cover up and say goodnight, say goodnight.
Home, that's where I want to be.
But I guess I'm already there.
I come home, she lifted up her wings.
I guess that this must be the place I can tell one from another that I find you or you find me.
There was a time before we were born.
Someone else, this is where I'll be.
Where I'll be higher, we're drifting in.
High, singing to my mind.
I love all those kinds of people.
You got a face with a view.
I'm just an animal looking for a home and shedders and space for a minute or two.
And you love me till my heart stops and love me till I'm dead.
Eyes that light up, eyes look through you.
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