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So if you compare the matter of my alleged offender to this African refugee that has sexually assaulted five women, raped another one, macheted someone, run through people's homes, and only did six months in jail, and I've already done seven months in solitary confinement.
So if you compare the nature of offending for a different moment, if you compare the nature of offender, I think it's pretty, if you compare the nature of denying, I think it's pretty obvious that the system is swayed one way.
The statement that I'll make regarding the way that the court system works at the moment is that it's an industry.
I think everyone that's been through this knows it, but it's an industry.
There's so many pre-hearing dates, so many pre-trial dates, so many administrative dates, and all of these things cost money.
And instead of, I believe in natural law, I believe that justice delays is justice denied.
The fact that this took two years, that I've been on strict bail conditions for two years, and I've had my life damaged for two years, to me is such a process in itself that if this is a common assault, if this is magistrates and it's a common assault, why was it not dealt with within a month or six weeks?
Would that not have been a more reasonable time to deal with such a, I mean, they're dealing with murders and rapes and all these serious offenses.
Wouldn't that be a reasonable timeframe?
Do you genuinely, genuinely believe that you're a person of character?
Absolutely.
Yep.
I've acted with honor at all times and under natural law, self-defense is reasonable.
My long-term goal is to have a farm and to live out as many hours away from you people as possible and let you enjoy your multiculturalism, diversity, and sodomy.
So that's my plan.
I want to get away from the society that you people are building.
I think it's sick.
Do you think people should feel safe having their own law?
Absolutely.
And as my character refers to said, I've only had a positive reputation and a positive interaction with members of the wider public.
So I've never gone out looking for a fight.
I've never gone out looking for conflict with people based off their views or race or anything.
We've always been on the receiving end of violence.
The problem is that if you're a white man in this country and you stand up for yourself, you're going to be put under the microscope.
We're in this struggle for a much greater thing than this teddy criminality and all this nonsense.
The struggle that we're in for the survival of our people is so much more significant to me that this is all a destruction.
This has nothing to do with what I want to achieve with my life and what I want to achieve with our political goals.
That's all I'll say for today.
Australian for the White Man, Calvin.
Welcome, everyone, to episode 152 of Full House, the world's finest bi-weekly show for white fathers, aspiring ones, and the whole bio fam.
I am, as always, your cordial host, Coach Finstock, back with another two hours for the lucky men and women of the audience who can listen to podcasts non-stop at work.
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Also, Knickerbocker said to be sure to use his name because it would make Rollo angry, and that's what really counts.
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And with that, let us get on to the birth panel and our very special return guest.
First up, as always, he's always ready to go, and he's always ready to record Full House 2.
He's got binders full of notes on women, and he's not afraid to use them, Sam.
Buddy, welcome back.
Hey, Coach, it's good to be back bi-weekly, huh?
Yeah, I know.
We'll talk about it a little later.
Yeah, seasonal affective disorder.
Boo-hoo, coach.
Yeah.
Well, if there's one thing about that, the most important thing is not to isolate yourself or cut yourself off from people.
You know, anytime We talk about our problems or talk about things going on.
It has a way of just shrinking them down in proportion when we put them in perspective with other things.
Absolutely.
How's everything in your life?
Great.
Yeah, really great.
In fact, you know, it's a March.
Here we're just turning the clock into March here.
And we just had a day the other day where we had kind of a sunny afternoon.
It was maybe low 50 degrees and with the sun out, felt pretty good.
You know, you start getting start thinking about spring a little bit.
And, you know, I like to get the basketball hoop out and shoot hoops.
And I couldn't help but thinking while we were sitting here, you know, we could do like a two-on-two, you know, coaching Thomas Sewell versus me and Rolo.
You know, I'm calling Tom.
Okay.
That's my dream.
We'll have to make that happen someday.
Look at you.
You got knees that work.
All right.
Thanks, Sammy Baby.
Next up, he has pulled off the impressive feat of being simultaneously the bane of my existence, as well as one of my most trusted and regular confidants.
Rolo, way to go.
Now, I'd like to add some context.
Back in the mid-90s, I was a big fan of the Orlando Magic, specifically Penny Hardaway and Shaquille O'Neal.
And I really hated Patrick Ewing and the entire New York Knickerbockers.
So I think that's where that comes from.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
Shaq and Penny, was that an NBA Jam duo?
I don't know if that was before or after.
No, those were just the only two people I could remember.
I was trying to come up with a convincing reason why Knickerbocker would not want his or me to hear his name.
I don't understand that.
So I came up with some BS about me hating the New York Knicks, but I don't really actually know anything about basketball other than I know in the 90s that Shaquille O'Neal and Penny Hardaway were on the Orlando Magic at some time.
Or wait.
Is it Orlando Magic?
That's very interesting, Rolo.
Sorry I asked.
Yeah, I was always Carl Malone and John Stockton and NBA James.
I just like people that use their elbows in a combative way in a non-combat sport.
Fair enough.
Hey, I did end up going and buying glue traps.
Thanks, Sam, because the mice escaped my Victor traps that I reset down in the crawl space.
Some of them had snapped, not caught a mouse, and some of them they had eaten the peanut butter and disappeared.
So now we go with the hardcore anti-PETA devices to get him.
All right.
Finally, he is one of the most respected and beloved white nationalists in the world.
He's down one legal hurdle with one more still to go.
And he is, of course, also the proudest new white father on earth, having recently welcomed a beautiful new baby girl.
And the jerk also had the temerity to spill the beans on the courthouse steps instead of saving the breaking news for his old pals at Full House.
Tom Sewell, welcome back.
Damn glad to have you back.
Thanks for having me back.
It's a pleasure to finally be qualified to be on the show.
Yeah, you know, the old fatherland show, you could not come on unless you were a father.
And I said, oh, well, you know, come on, let's branch out a little bit here.
And you lived up.
If you remember, last show, I was busting your chops because I think when you first came on, you were like, I'm pretty much married to the cause right now, mate.
I don't have time for all that.
And then you disputed that heavily.
And here we are now.
Congratulations.
A little bit of color about being a new dad right here at the top.
Yeah, also talk.
No one told me how funny breastfeeding was.
No one told me how hilarious it is.
Why did nobody tell me this?
I thought it was going to be a I believe I elaborated on some of that on the show back in the day.
I don't think Tom is hitting the keg.
Why is it so funny?
I remember my wife hating it and being in severe pain.
Oh, because the baby Luna is just so dramatic.
You know, she's like, no, I don't want it.
I don't want it.
And then just like a grip that's the boob.
It's hilarious.
And the noises, everything.
It's really funny.
She's really funny with it.
She gained a lot of weight really quick.
She's gained, I think, over a kilo in a month, which is 2.2 pounds in American.
And yeah, she's doing really well and on the boob constantly.
There's no rules in this house.
Just when you want the boob, you get the boob.
So you're saying, Tom, you haven't thrown in the raw cow milk and goat milk to the supply yet?
I knew that was going to come up.
Of course.
Softball.
That's definitely not needed.
There's no shortage of boob.
A lot of people take that out of context.
That was always a conversation about as a replacement if you had no boob.
But yeah, I know you knew that.
But yeah.
Nah, there's plenty of boob.
What's the best part so far being a new father?
The oxytocin.
Definitely, definitely the good stuff, the good hormones.
I don't know.
There's just days.
Obviously, there's frustrations the first, I mean, it's only been a month, but it's been a tough month with being awake all night and the cluster feeding and the crying and the fussing.
And she's very noisy, very noisy baby.
She's got an attitude, that's for sure.
Not even just necessarily the crying, just the squeaking, like the cooing.
I don't know how to call it, what do you call it, but just all the noises are really funny.
They just keep you up all night because she just sleep talks, always having dreams.
And I'd say the best part is just those moments.
It's probably once or twice a day where just the oxytocin just hits you all at once and you're just sort of swaying with the baby and the missus.
And it's just, it's beautiful, man.
You look pretty, it occurs to me that you're starting to look a lot more like Jason Statham with the shaved head and the beard.
You don't look too tired.
Be honest, is mom doing the lion's share of the work?
Are you pretty involved with the diapers and all the rest of it?
Not to throw my colleagues and friends under the bus, but I'd say I'm doing a lot more than what my mates tell me they do.
So I definitely wouldn't say it's 50-50 and I don't believe in 50-50 with that stuff.
I think, you know, I'm at work, you know, laboring.
I'm dirty.
I get home, I have a shower, and then I can sort of take over and help with a few things.
But yeah, definitely she's doing the lion's share.
She's a bit of a lioness.
So she often doesn't even want to give me the baby.
She fights me to keep holding it even when I'm home from work.
So it's really pleasant.
It's really pleasing.
But yeah, I don't, I remember a few of my mates had babies in the last sort of two to three years.
I'm a younger generation than you three, only by a little bit.
But young enough that my friends have only just started having kids in the last couple of years.
And or my peer group, I'll say.
So I never really saw anyone change a diaper or nappy until, as we call it in Australia, until about probably two years ago.
And it just seemed horrible.
You know, it's just the smell.
And it was like, I wasn't even in the room.
And I was like, this sounds horrible.
And honestly, I have not had an issue.
I've probably changed 100 nappies, maybe 200.
If your wife is breastfeeding, that's a big part of it because it makes it not gross.
I'm not going to go into detail, but when you're giving the baby food and the baby really cannot digest all those things that people are shoveling into their babies, really, according to the doctor I had, he said up to really like two years is the baby can only really digest the mother's milk properly.
So the diaper changes are not as bad until you start giving them food and stuff.
Yeah, I've had no issues changing diapers.
I don't know what the I was the same way.
I said almost the same thing when I was in that position.
That was exactly my observation as well.
I thought it was going to be horrible, but maybe because it's your own kid, it doesn't, it doesn't smell, it doesn't smell at all.
And it's a little bit of a mess, but it's just you get a routine and it's fine.
I haven't had any dramas at all.
Tom, there are some fathers who are very hands-off, especially with newborns and infants.
Like, nope, that is women's work.
And there are probably some fathers out there who go a little overboard and get maybe a little too maternal in their involvement.
Are you consciously consciously deciding what you do and don't do, or is it mostly just following instinct and like, you know, getting involved where it makes sense?
Yeah, I'd say it's a bit of both.
I'd say initially there was just instinct.
Initially, it was like no conscious thought at all, just instinct.
I'll see how I go.
But then as the weeks have gone on, I certainly have started consciously thinking about, am I doing too much or am I not doing enough?
And just sort of, it's become conscious now.
I think the first two weeks are a bit of a blur, two, three weeks.
And now I'm starting to think, okay, where do I draw the line in the sand where I make sure that I'm not stepping into her terrain?
Like it's, it's at the end of the day, it's the principal carer, the primary care is the mother.
And it's very important for her to have that bond and to do the majority of the work.
So, but yeah, I've certainly done, if I was to give you a figure, if you know, people like people like percentages, I'd say I'm probably doing 20%, 20, 30%.
I know guys, as you said, I know guys that do zero, especially in the newborn phase.
And I know guys that do 70%.
You know, they do 50 or 70.
And that's probably too much.
I probably do about 20, which I think is a pretty happy place, like a happy medium.
Sounds reasonable.
Tom, are your parents or her parents in range?
Yeah, they're involved.
Yeah, they're helping where they can.
They're involved.
This is a big thing for young people because when I was having young children, at least for some of them, I was living far away from any family and it was very hard.
And that's one thing to remember: is that having children is not supposed to be just the mother and the father.
There's supposed to be extended family.
There should be sisters and aunts and grandmothers and things like that involved.
So, like, when people are having a hard time, hey, it's not for no reason you're having a hard time.
This is not supposed to be a one-person or two-person job.
And if it's possible, people should not be afraid to call upon that help.
Yeah.
Well, the first two to three weeks, it was 100% us.
And, you know, we just wanted that alone time.
And now, now it's been, you know, just over four weeks now.
The family starting to get involved.
But we really wanted those first two weeks.
I didn't work for about 10 days.
And we wanted those two weeks to just habituate and just sort of get in sync with the baby and get a sleeping routine and all that sort of postnatal stuff.
Those first couple of weeks and first couple months, especially for first-time parents, is widely considered the toughest time.
I don't know.
It sounds like baby girl's doing great with weight gain, but we were totally stressed out, especially with our first, is he gaining enough weight?
How do we get those fingernails cut?
What's that little crap on his scalp?
A little cradle cap.
And so it sounds like you're already probably over what a lot of people consider the toughest part.
I got to ask, you might be an inspiration for the single guys out there because you did the bit and it's not like you have a lot of internet clout.
Your fitness and your toughness are moderate to middling.
And you've got a record too, but you still were able to snag a lady, Tom.
Tell us a little bit about how you guys met.
And I don't know.
Was it an internet thing?
Did you know her for a long time that whole bit?
I've never actually talked about it.
There's only a few guys on the inner circle that know.
Okay.
But we actually dated a little bit in high school.
All right.
And yeah.
So I've known her.
We grew up together.
We went to the same high school.
We grew up in the same suburb.
And I wouldn't say we were high school sweethearts.
I'd say almost the opposite of that.
But we knew each other from high school.
And she was too much, too much of a handful for me back then.
She was just a bit of a maniac.
And I just, I don't know, my priorities were, you know, the boys and the gym and sport.
And I was joining the army.
So I wasn't interested in any woman that gave me a headache.
And, you know, I joined the army after high school and left Melbourne where I grew up, where we grew up, and never even thought about her ever again, never spoke to her ever again.
And upon leaving the army and getting involved in politics, met many women and never felt a really strong connection, to be honest.
And the more internet clout that I sort of got, the more I attracted, I think, the wrong type of women.
I attracted sort of more, they weren't interested in who I was as a person.
It was more like an online persona.
The way that if you're a musician in a band, you know, you sort of attract a certain type and they're more interested in the idea of you than the actual reality of you.
The reality of you is actually very difficult.
And I ran into her at a pub of all pubs, the pub that we all used to go to when we first left high school, all the people from my high school.
And I ran into her there a couple of years ago.
And just nothing romantic at all, absolutely nothing romantic.
Just had a chat to her and reconnected only at a friendship level.
I was actually dating somebody else at the time.
And actually, years went by before I actually took her out on a date when I was a single man again.
And not long after that, I actually went to jail.
And when I came out of jail, all the sort of all my world was a bit upside down.
I'll be honest.
The boys got hit pretty hard while I was in jail.
And a lot of people, there was definitely a sense of abandonment by a lot of people.
And the one person that sort of sticked through it all and was sort of there and supportive.
And I never really looked upon in that light.
I always sort of saw her as a friend.
And we just, we started spending time together and hanging out and nothing romantic, but just sort of just a really good down-to-earth person to spend time with, recovering from seven months in a concrete box.
And I guess some people might say that, you know, she took advantage of me while I was emotionally weak, but I sort of see it in the opposite way that I was probably very difficult to get along with when I first got out of jail because of the,
you know, it was definitely very personally difficult to not to go through the experience because I was kind of numb during the experience, but to come out of the experience and to be back in society and to see how sick and disgusting society was and everything else I was frustrated about.
And to be able to put up with that, you know, would take a very special person.
And she was just very supportive.
And a couple of months went by of us spending time together.
And again, as I said, it wasn't romantic.
It wasn't lust.
It was just, we were just really good friends.
And I know that sounds a bit like the opposite of the advice I normally give people, but we just became really, really good friends.
And that friendship somehow turned into, you know, a little bit more intense.
And then we had a pregnancy scare.
And I thought, oh, no, what have I done?
Like, I was almost, I actually almost set a record, a personal record for retaining my Vril when she managed to heal it.
And she tried, but I was pretty strong.
I had a pretty good streak in prison.
And then coming out of prison, I had a pretty good streak of viril retention and the life force.
And we had a pregnancy scare.
And then it turned out.
Yeah, two, two, three weeks later, it turns out that she wasn't pregnant.
And instead of being relieved, I was actually sad.
There you go.
And same thing with her.
Like, she thought that she would be really relieved.
Like, oh, this is not good.
And then it was like, yeah, instead of being relieved, oh, you know, oh, thank God I'm not pregnant.
It was the opposite.
It was actually, it was actually a really sad moment for both of us.
Even though we didn't plan that.
And so then after that, we're like, all right, well, if that's how we feel, maybe we should do it for real.
There you go, guys.
Get a pregnancy scare with a girl who's in the friend zone and then get sad about it and carry on.
Well, it sounds like you really got to know each other well as a person.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's the strangest situation I've ever been in.
And that's like a true love, you know?
Yeah, it's working better than anything I've had ever.
And so I've given a lot of relationship advice over the years, but there's theory and there's practice.
And in practice, I guess God decides.
I don't know how it turned out this way.
It just did.
Got asked, are you engaged, married?
What's your thoughts on that?
Or what's the status?
We're engaged.
We're engaged.
And not long after the pregnancy, I decided that, you know, you got to do the correct thing.
And it's not the exact correct order to do it in, but we're living in the Kali Yuga.
I got to make, I've got to be a pragmatic man.
Ideally, I'd be married at 21 years old to a virgin on a farm and I'd twiddle wood for fun.
But obviously, that's not the situation in Sodom and Gomorrah that we live in.
We're trying to pull ourselves out of the mess.
And my goal is to make sure that my children and my daughters, especially, and my sons, you know, grow up in a different situation to how me and her have grown up.
And we are planning on getting married once the court stuff is all done and I can associate with Jacob because I can't have a marriage without a best man.
There you go.
You're going to do a church to make the parents happy?
Or what are you thinking?
We haven't really discussed where.
I'm open-minded.
I don't mind.
I think she wants to do it on a farm.
I think maybe in a farm or in a forest or something like that.
I think that's what she wants.
I don't mind.
To me, as you know, I'm not a practicing Christian.
So I'm flexible, but I see it that we're already married in a spiritual sense, just not on paper.
To me, the blood marriage is the majority of the marriage.
And then the second half is the ceremony and the LARP to represent the blood marriage.
So we felt like I'm certainly not discounting the moral and religious and the society and community need.
To me, I think oaths are very important.
And I think community demonstrations are very important.
I think it's very powerful, powerful LARP.
It's the one LARP I'll give women.
They've got it pretty spot on.
They know how to LARP.
I think weddings are important.
There's a lot of men in the movement that are a bit more pragmatic and a bit more barbarian.
And, you know, what's the point?
Why do I need the government to recognize it?
And I can see it from that side, but I think the other end is, I think it's an important LARP.
I think you've got to do a demonstration in front of your tribe, in front of your community, and say, this is us, and this is what we're doing.
And this is what we're making.
And, you know, I think that's important.
Because we are going to hold you to it, you know, when the going gets tough, if it should ever get tough.
So, you know, we make the vow in front of our fellows to, you know, it's the excitement is the feeling is what makes us want to get married.
But then it's the promise and our honor that keeps us faithful to that promise and that vow.
Got to do it for the party, for your mates, if nothing else.
And yeah, but my wife and I were not religious and the ceremony didn't matter that much to us, but it did to both our parents, our sets of parents.
So we're like, okay, fine.
We'll do it in a church.
It'll make them happy.
Like it's not necessarily not us.
Because we all know plenty of people who just get together on the excitement and they think there's some kind of love there or something and then not, you know, they're just sleeping around and it's just for the moment and stuff like that.
So making it official, I think, does help us hold to our promise.
You bet.
Tom, you mentioned Jacob there and also congratulations for your relatively recent sort of got out of jail not free.
You got sentenced to a lot of community service and I suppose community or supervised release as a result of the little dust up at the news center.
What happened there?
Are you going to appeal it?
Are you mostly grateful?
I always do all these questions.
And are you doing the community service yet?
How's that?
Yeah, so I'm doing the community service.
I've managed to game the system a little bit, which I won't go into too much detail.
But I have applied for the at-home.
You know, the bureaucracy is fascinating once you get to understand how it works.
And during COVID, they didn't make people go clean up graffiti because Imagine spreading disease or something and clean up your room.
Yeah, instead, they had them sewing.
They had them doing, I don't know what it's called, like on a loom.
They were sewing on a loom.
And they don't do it anymore because COVID's over, allegedly.
But I applied for it anyway under special circumstances.
And they've got me this loom.
I got to pick up these frames and I got to loom 10 looms.
And yeah, so or I can stay at home with the baby and just loom.
Wow.
Tom, Tom Sue.
Yeah, Tom Sower.
We're going to call you or something.
Yeah, Tom Sower.
Yeah.
My favorite African-American professor.
That's right.
Now, when you did your long stretch in solitary, though, that was for the dust up in the cut.
What's the latest on that one, brother?
Well, there's no update on that.
We're going to trial in August.
They've dragged it out as much as they can.
Yeah, there's really no dust up.
I've almost raised enough for the trial.
So I don't really need to shill the fundraiser or anything.
I actually haven't.
I got my bank account shut down recently.
So I have to change over.
All those fun, the fundraisers are probably bouncing at the moment.
I've got to get that all reorganized, which I will soon.
But for the 10th time in 12 months, I've had a bank account shut down.
But yeah, there's really no update.
Like the system is very slow.
They simultaneously take it very seriously and also it's a piss take at the same time.
So I'm taking it seriously.
I don't want to get caught out by these little lying little lawyers.
So I'm paying the money.
Jacob has a very good lawyer on the legal aid because he's unemployed.
So he gets a free lawyer.
And his lawyer is very good.
It's the best free lawyer.
He's very, very lucky.
I've never seen anyone on the legal aid that sharp.
He's a very, very good lawyer.
So Jacob and I should have a very good result considering, yeah, we'll see how we go.
We're going to get the best possible result that you can in a society that we live in at the moment.
And is that going to be high drama, you know, before a judge and jury and a drawn out, you know, possibly week long or more media circus?
It's going to be, it's going to be about a week, maybe just over a week.
It's a lot of money on the table.
It's the last time I'm ever going to not self-represent.
They've already done so much work, the lawyers and the barristers, and the whole team have done a lot of work.
They've looked over everything.
They've been dealing with us for over a year now, almost 18 months, or over 18 months, kind of for two years now.
This is two years ago.
And they've done a lot of work over the last two years.
So I'm going to stick with them, pay them the money, and we'll see what result we get.
But if anything like this ever happens again, I'm 100% going to self-represent.
I'm absolutely sick of the whole legal warfare.
And it's, yeah, I think it's the process is the punishment, as I've always said.
So that's all I'll say on that matter.
There's honestly no update, even though we haven't talked for six months.
There's just no update.
It's just that slow.
Yeah, I'll just say godspeed, good luck.
I know it could be bad if it doesn't go your way, but if I was following closely enough, there's been quite a few revelations about what actually happened that day versus what was alleged that sound like things are going in your favor.
And it was not all you didn't just go berserker on some innocent tourists watching you and the lads.
I'd love to put my side forward today, but I've waited this long.
I'm going to wait another six months.
And the truth will out.
As far as I'm concerned, I've always behaved honorably.
The truth will always come out eventually.
And I hold my head up high in the community, in the white nationalist community, and in the wider community.
I've done no wrong.
And just like this incident, the previous incident, we live in a society that allows people to use violence if their feelings are hurt, but doesn't allow people to use the same or equal or even slightly more force to defend themselves from violent thugs.
So they're always going to come down on us hard.
I had a recent incident, not myself, but with the young lads, where a couple of the young guys got raided for putting up stickers.
The counterterrorism police support team came in, kicked their door down and arrested them for putting up stickers.
How horrible.
Sticky paper on light poles.
And about a couple of weeks later, the antifers were running around town, putting up stickers and wheat paste posters of Tim and his family, his wife and his business, putting that up around town to try to intimidate, harass, and use subtle threats of violence against his wife, like pictures of his wife.
And the boys went around the suburb and tore the posters down, and the police arrested them for damaging public property, for tearing the posters down.
So if that's not a perfect metaphor to explain how you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't.
If you put up stickers, you get charged with property damage.
But when the communists put up stickers, you get charged with property damage for taking them down.
So it's an absolutely disgusting society.
And I just can't wait to continue down this process and keep building our parallel community.
There's so many mums and bubs now involved.
And the boys are getting fitter and stronger than ever.
We're hosting big meetups every three months interstate.
We're trying to host an international one soon, which I won't give the details just yet, but there will be one soon.
And we're on the strength training.
We're on the martial arts training, general athletics, fitness, health.
Everything's just moving in the right direction.
Heaps of activism.
The police are trying to make Roman saluting illegal now because they've succeeded in making the swastika illegal.
So now it's illegal to Roman, or they're trying to make it illegal to Roman salute.
So no matter how much they try to clamp down their laws, we just keep winning.
We keep kicking goals.
We're moving forward.
We're unstoppable force.
And yeah, my honor is my loyalty.
Hell yeah, brother.
We know that you guys and the Brits, certainly the Germans and so many other European peoples have had to deal with way more draconian penalties and unfair interpretations of the law when it comes to pro-white activism.
But you probably saw that Florida is now dipping its toes into that arena to the point where, oh, you litter, that's one crime, but you litter a piece of paper with a message that we don't like.
Then boom, you have just committed a felony.
So it's coming here now.
It's likely to pass in Florida, whether it gets, you know, everybody these days has sort of high hopes in our Supreme Court because they're now 6'3 conservative and are likely to take a more generous view of the First Amendment when it comes to stuff like that.
But they're trying it here now, too, as a result of Glow Defense League activism and other stuff.
They just they have to and want to shut it down.
One of the things I wanted to ask, shout out Natsoff Florida as well.
Shout out Natsoff Florida.
Natsuk Florida.
Yeah, he's been doing good work with his own crew in Florida as well.
Josh Nunes.
All right.
Yeah, I'll take a look at that stuff after the show.
Yeah, he's helped the GDO as well.
They've done joint stuff together.
And definitely the hard work that GDL and NATSOF Florida and there's a crew of Patriot Front guys as well, I'm aware of in Florida.
And the three of those three clicks put together have certainly rattled the cage enough that the Zio tyranny is trying to make it illegal to five years in jail.
I've seen I'm updated on all this.
It's really disgusting what's happening in Florida.
And if it does pass, my recommendation is to not get frustrated, to think outside the box, to just keep thinking outside the box.
There's 100 ways to do activism, and it's not worth five years in jail, you know, with your lead activists, your most hardworking guys that can get so much good work done.
It's not worth having them in the sin bin for five years to prove a point.
So I'm not saying give up.
I'm saying if that does pass, which it probably will, judging by how powerful Zog is everywhere, then adjust your taxes.
I was saying to the boys, maybe they need to do like a Steven Crowder table.
You know, use control Florida to baby just out the front of the courthouse.
And, you know, that kind of stuff, because, and, you know, and then, and then educate people that, yeah, hey, we used to put out leaflets talking about Jewish power and they've made it five years in jail to put out a leaflet about Jewish power.
You know, what do you think of that?
You know, I think stuff like that might be the way that we have to migrate when they make all the all the, you know, things legal that they currently make legal.
Until, you know, it's a game of whack-a-mole.
They're just going to have to whack every single strategy down.
And then I won't go any further with that conversation, but there's other strategies.
They're playing a losing hand because if you think to the Soviet Union where they were serializing carbon paper so that they could keep track of everything that was made a copy.
And we like to say that it was the fax machine or the photocopier that broke that system.
And that's the game our enemies are playing now is they have to try to control all these little things to maintain their slippery control of society.
And it's just impossible ultimately.
So like keep trying different tactics.
We're growing.
You're growing.
Everything you're describing is growing.
Our local scene is growing all the time.
We're bigger than we've ever been.
So definitely we should all continue to fight in an encouraged way.
Yeah.
And we're used to adjusting tactics online to avoid getting our account shut down and being a little bit more creative with our euphemisms or just preventing fact, you know, presenting facts or tongue-in-cheek stuff and not exactly leading the horses to water, but giving them a little clues and hell, just factual statements that can't possibly be interpreted as quote unquote hateful.
Let's see him try to slap a felony on a rock solid fact that will still get the point across.
One of the things that you mentioned on that pretty cool courthouse impromptu talk with the media, Tom, was, I don't know, maybe it was revealing and you said something like, I want to get the hell away from you people and your sick society and go live and work on a farm.
And That was a little bit different.
Maybe the first time you came on the show, you were full of piss and vinegar and ragnarok and taking it all back.
Not saying that you're not anymore, but has your approach to a sick society changed a little bit from let's overthrow it and make a new to let's get the hell away from these sick people that have all the power right now and head to the hills to a certain extent.
I think my strategy has always been to do both.
My strategy is that we need a plan A and a plan B. I've described it in the past as we're living in a zombie apocalypse.
And my frustration has been the whole time, how do you wake up a people that don't want to be woken up?
How do you overthrow an evil order that has not necessarily the support, but the apathy of the masses?
And how do you maintain morale and remove or deal with attrition of activists that are trying to save a people that don't want to be saved?
And I have wrestled my entire political, I guess you call it, career with this struggle.
I have wrestled with this struggle of what does it mean to be noble in order, does one sacrifice oneself for the collective?
But what if it is actually the collective itself that is rotten?
And so we know that there's aversion.
We know that in a better, healthier society, these people would be functioning and healthy and beautiful members of a white society, but they don't have the spiritual or moral or political strength to stand up to the enemy.
So I don't, I've done this for since 2015, very early 2015, the in-real life stuff.
And what I have seen is no fallback position.
What I have seen is burnout.
What I have seen is the loss of family men.
And some of these guys were the best guys that we ever had, the most solid guys, the most skill-based, resource-based, hard-working, good values, everything else, the kind of people that you wanted to retain.
And we lost them because there was no retention plan.
So it's not that I know I probably came, I can't remember word for word what I said.
It was a long time ago.
It was probably almost two years ago now.
I was first on your show, at least 18.
Oh, yeah, probably two years.
It's got to be two years now.
And I know I probably came out, as you said, piss and vinegar and, you know, complaining about people running away.
And I've had a lot of time to reflect on the idea that you can't fight.
You can struggle against nature, certainly, and it is an eternal struggle.
But if, you know, I like to use the expression, you've got to lean into it.
If people are white flighting, you have two options.
You give up on them because, oh, they're white flighting.
I'm never going to talk to them ever again.
Or you work out a way of utilizing that energy that exists with or without you.
With or without spokespersons, with or without podcasts, with or without Telegram, with or without content creation or any propaganda effort, any material informational effort, people are white flighting.
They don't want to live in the cities.
So we have two options.
We utilize it or we don't.
And so from my perspective, I want to utilize it.
I want to, long term, I want to build rural power because I don't see there being enough energy in the society to overthrow it in the short term through parallel power structures in the short term.
I only see a long-term parallel power structure overthrow.
The only short-term solution that I see is unfortunately violent.
I don't see building institutional power in the cities as being a successful method.
I don't think that they'll last.
I think there's too much weight and gravity and pressure from the beast system.
I think whatever institutional long, any power that we're trying to build has to be rural because the short-term scenario, if you want to call it that, it's not really a strategy.
I don't really have control over it.
The short-term scenario is Ragnarok, as you mentioned, that I haven't talked about for a long time.
It is Ragnarok.
It's World War III combined with an internal civil war combined with a – I'm out of the question, by the way.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Combined with a tyranny.
So I believe that I'm not going to say which one's A and which one's B, but the reality is that we need to have our active clubs.
We need to have our propaganda teams.
We need to have our guys doing activism in the city.
We need a youthful, energetic energy in the city.
But how do we utilize that manpower when they do start having kids, when they do start burning out, when you can't utilize them any longer in that role?
Well, now there's a more mature position that we need to have that fallback power.
So that's why it's a huge goal of mine to set up a communal farming cooperative.
I'll call it a cooperative.
And that's probably my biggest goal at the moment once this court case is done because everything else is set up.
I've done the rest.
We've got our activist networks.
It all operate without me.
I don't need, I oversight it, but I don't need to tell anyone to do anything.
They're just young, keen guys, and they go out and do it.
Likewise, the training.
It's just, it's routine now.
I had someone ask me, a non-member of the organization, oh, you know, what are you doing on Saturday?
And I said, well, I'm training.
And they said, why?
And I thought to myself, I paused for a moment, like, it's our religion.
What do you mean, why?
There is no why.
We do.
We do.
We only do.
We train on Saturdays.
That's what we do.
That's our religion.
You know, that's our, we train every Saturday as a city.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One of the things I have to caution you, Tom, since I moved to the country, glorious, white, and red, it is overwhelmingly Republican, conservative, Christian, safe countryside, is that I feel like I've lost a little bit of my edge and a little bit of my anger and even a little bit of my motivation because I'm not surrounded by the daily stressors and reminders of while we're in this struggle.
And I was going to be cutesy here with this next question and say I'm asking for a friend, but I won't do that.
I'll just be honest with the audience.
I have been more discouraged or disinterested in the cause, heaven help me, over the past couple of months.
And we're going to talk about in the second half, probably after you have to run.
But long story short, you know, there's been a disturbance in the force over here on this side of the Pacific.
It's dragging.
You know, I got in roughly the same time you did 2015, maybe IRL 2016.
And it's just a long slog.
You mentioned you got a lot of people who just don't have the needs for it, where they wash out.
There are a couple of bad actors.
There are dirtbags, of course.
Sad but true.
How the hell do you stay motivated, inspired, and committed?
And do you ever go a little bit wobbly in your quiet hours?
That's a very good question.
The first half of the question regarding that feeling of demoralization to an extent because you're not in the thick of it, you know, that's perfectly normal and perfectly natural.
And, you know, you're in a different stage of life where your energy is meant to be directed elsewhere.
And, you know, it is going to be more love than it is hate when you're nurturing a culture, when you're cultivating something.
And that's what the whole point of the rural parallel power structure is.
It's you're no longer antagonistic.
You're no longer a specifically outward force.
You're an inward force.
You're nurturing something.
You're building a baby up from scratch.
And we're building a new culture, a new man, a new ideal, a new society with our values and from scratch.
So, you know, frustration and anger doesn't help that so much.
Whereas you need to be angry.
You need to be hot with fire in order to go out and stick a run for the sixth time that month.
You're going to be absolutely hot with fire.
Who the hell wants to go out at two in the morning and put stickers up and risk getting their door kicked in, you know, to try to wake up one or two guys in that suburb?
Who wants to do that?
Well, you've got to be hot with fire.
You've got to be absolutely hot-blooded.
You've got to have that youthful vigor and energy.
And so I wouldn't see that as a bad thing, Coach.
I would see that as just a natural progression.
And, you know, the change in environment is probably better for your psyche.
I know that my hair fell out two years ago, three years ago.
And, you know, that's just how my body displays stress.
But I can only imagine the mental and physical and emotional injuries that has plagued our scene because of the stress of being this combat fatigue.
It's literally combat fatigue.
We're in a metaphysical war on a digital spiritual war with the great Satan.
And, you know, it plays a toll on everyone.
So you've done so much good work, Coach.
I wouldn't see that as a negative at all.
I think you've earned your, it's not even retirement.
It's just stage two.
Put me out to pasture.
No, I know.
Thank you, brother.
You didn't have to say that.
I just want to be like, I'm sure that I'm not the only one who feels that way.
Plus, now I'm in my early 40s, whatever.
I got the family and stuff like that.
But when I went back to Northern Virginia and saw the invasion and saw the third world crawling everywhere, my blood pressure raised.
I was like, oh, yeah, this is when I was a powerhouse on Twitter because I was fueled by all that negative energy around me.
And now I'm like, oh, you know, maybe go plant some potatoes today.
So I'm going to go ahead and get it.
Exactly.
Coach, you have to, well, on the first part of the question, I just wanted to throw in there.
Hitler said that you cannot beat the enemy unless you face the enemy.
So yeah, that's just natural once you're away from the enemy.
And then you kind of go into a different mode.
But as far as the getting discouraged, you know, you have to really own this thing.
You know, this thing has to be personal.
This is your personal religion as it is my personal religion.
And there have been times in my lifetime since being a teenager where I was surrounded by comrades and we felt like we were all powerful.
And there were times where I was literally by myself.
But whether I'm by myself or I'm in a whole crowd of guys like us, this is my thing and there's nobody can take it away from me.
Yeah.
And to clarify, my worldview has not changed one iota.
If anything, all the events of the past five, seven years have only proven just how right we were.
And I sort of have a role to play to be upbeat and positive on this show, but I am human.
Tom, to that second part of the question, maintaining that drive and motivation, even in the midst of lawfare oppression, guys going wobbly.
How the hell do you do it?
Well, staying on track is easy for me because I have a good memory.
And I know that they're never going to leave us alone.
That they are, that there is no solution but victory.
There's no compromise with evil.
There's no, oh, maybe at some point I can stop doing what I'm doing and just sit back and relax.
And all I'll ever have to worry about is planting potatoes.
I know at some point I'm going to be planting a lot of potatoes, but I've got a good memory.
And so it's easy to stay on track when you remember who you're fighting against and what you're fighting for.
So to me, that's my daily motivation.
I don't need Telegram.
I don't need a news feed reminding me of rape and murder and all this sort of stuff.
I know, as Sam said personally, I know personally what they've done to me, to us, I should say, at that personal level, but also just the outside world, the bigger world, the geopolitical scale of what's happening can't be ignored.
And we're white men.
We're noblemen.
We're not slaves.
That's not what our race is.
We're not a slave race.
We're a noble race.
And noblemen take personal responsibility for greater struggles.
They make it personal.
They make something bigger than them personal.
And this is one of the main things.
It's not a direct answer to your question, but you might not ask me the question or you probably will.
But the one thing that I was like taking notes about, oh, what I'm going to say on the show today, I know he's going to ask me a lot of questions about fatherhood, how things might have changed my view of life or whatever.
And the thing that has changed the most about now being a father is what I've always reiterated to people about the concept of solar morality.
And when I walk around society now, I no longer see myself as a part of society.
I've always had that in-group, out-group preference where it's like it's, you know, the Malcolm X, you know, our government, our space force, you know, there's not a nigga within a thousand miles of NASA.
I've always sort of had that in-group, out-group.
You know, it's not our society anymore.
It's not our government, all this.
But when I think about the collective, and previously I thought about myself being part of some wider collective, whether that be Australia, Melbourne, the suburb I live in, whatever.
But now there's such a strengthened understanding that the collective, I don't exist as part of the collective.
The collective exists because of men like me.
And the idea that, well, now I'm a father and I decide how society feels.
Society doesn't decide how I feel.
And it starts with the smallest things.
Like I used to just, it was very easy for me to ignore.
I thought that I would become disinterested or disconnected in the collective attitude and the collective behavior because, oh, well, now I've got my own, now I've bred, now I've got a kid.
And, you know, so I don't care about anyone else's kids.
But it's honestly been the opposite.
Now I'm 10 times invested because I know I'm not an just an atomized thing.
And I know that my child can't exist in a vacuum.
And so I'm 10 times more strengthened.
When I see a kid with blue hair, I'll shout at him on the stream.
Be like, why you got blue hair, you retard?
Who cares?
It doesn't matter.
I'll wind the window down the light.
I told a kid at the lights the other day.
I'm like, full bad man.
I told him to stand up straight.
Like, stand up straight, you little dickhead.
You little dickhead.
Stand up straight.
And, you know, like, it's like, I'm doing activism on a dad level now.
I'm a dad.
I'm a fatherly menace to society now.
You know, I'm telling you to, you know, to tuck your shirts.
The dad jokes are coming next, big guy.
Look out.
Yeah.
I'd have to evolve a sense of humor first.
But yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, just look into your children's eyes if you need a power boost, I guess.
Of course, I do that, but maybe I'm a little bit more human, sadly, than Tom.
I've been meaning to start.
Go ahead.
Hey, you know, like, hey, you know, opening our hearts up on the show is a little bit part of our, it's not a shtick.
It's what we do.
And I do that not to spread any dispirited nature, but just to be honest.
And I'm sure there's a lot of people out there who have the same feelings.
Would you ever leave Australia if it looked like the cause or the fight was really happening in earnest, if there was a burgeoning white state or a serious conflict?
Or are you a lifer down there?
That's your home.
You're going to die and be buried there.
Hypothetical.
Yeah, that's a very difficult question.
There's so many factors.
I wish I could do that.
I don't want your guys to go wobbly like, oh, Tom would leave us.
But honestly, you know, I always thought like some guys are absolutely blood and soil America.
And I've always said, you know, if there was either if I had to keep my family safe and do a back to Europe thing or a to Australia thing, I probably would.
Or if I really thought that there was some magic happening somewhere where it was they were raising the or lighting the beacons for us, I would consider it.
I'm not so attached.
If you mean permanently, like, would I go if there was a struggle, an active struggle that needed my help, would I consider going?
Absolutely.
Would I consider moving permanently?
Well, it could be a permanent move if I'm not allowed back in the country because that's what they've done in the past to people.
But in terms of blood and soil, in terms of the spirituality, the Australiana, I think there's something magical about this great southern land.
I think that we're going to become a superpower in the next 200 years.
Truly, I do.
I think that Australia is, you know, you've got South Africa, you've got New Zealand, and there's huge white colonies in Southern America.
But I think Australia is the absolute powerhouse of the Aryan people in the southern hemisphere.
And when I look into the esoterics of it, it's interesting to find there's a lot of mythology and a lot of potentially blood memory about the idea that we've always been at the poles.
We've never just been in Europe.
We've always been at the poles.
We've always been North Pole, South Pole, because we're always about the cold.
The equator's always had all the muds.
It's always been like that.
And it's always been a war between the tropics and the poles.
And so we've always had colonies in the south.
If you go back to prior civilization sort of stuff, and I think there's something magical about Australia.
I think it is Southern Europe in the most beautiful sense.
Australia is such a beautiful place.
I don't know how I could possibly ever leave.
I do believe that I will die here and that my sons and grandsons will inherit the earth that I'm buried on.
God bless you for that.
I was just curious.
Shifting gears here again.
Are you okay on time for now?
Oh, mate.
I'll go.
It's Sunday.
I've got all the time in the world.
God bless you.
All right.
Ukraine-Russia is one year on.
We sort of teased this last show and we didn't get to it.
And I certainly don't want to debate it right now, but I am curious.
We can debate it if we want.
Has your assessment of it changed now one year on?
We have a ton more data now than when we did in February 2022.
No, I think the only thing I have to say about Ukraine-Russia is that unfortunately I've become disinterested in it.
And that's just the honest truth.
I don't want to be disinterested in it.
I've tried to keep up with it, but it just hurts me to continue to see a struggle between predominantly two Aryan peoples predominantly, and to see all the white deaths that have been caused by this.
And I'm constantly torn because I know in my heart that we can't fix this world without war.
Unfortunately, the geopolitical situation, there is a World War III coming, whether it's this decade or in five decades, it's coming.
There has to be a World War III.
Our people are so weak, especially here in Australia.
They're so liberal.
And in the purest sense, they're liberal.
Like they don't care about anything except dopamine and happiness and money.
They've got no concept of struggle and hardship.
And in order to build a new man, I don't see it happening on any sort of scale other than a few active clubs without a serious geopolitical upheaval.
So I know that we need war in order to heal our soul because we are definitely a damaged people from liberalism.
We're so decadent and disgusting and fat and lazy as a collective.
And but in saying that, it is hard for me to see that this war is continuing and I don't have a solution.
I don't have a solution to the problem until there's a greater solution to the greater problem.
Because I disagreed with a lot of, Sam, I'll go right back over to you.
I disagreed with some.
I don't know if I caught all of Tom's assessment of Ukraine-Russia.
And I can certainly understand the very many well-intentioned people who see white nationalists, national socialists in Ukraine fighting for their homeland, at least in their hearts and minds.
The reality from the outside certainly looks like they are being abused.
But do you not have any hope for Russia as a strong, competent, it's a whiter country in the 2020 census than it was 10 years before?
I think a lot of the criticisms of it as being either Jewish or a mongrel state are at least unfair.
Obviously, there's some elements of truth to that.
But all in all, you're still negative or not optimistic toward Russia as at least better than what's going on in so many other white countries.
And I'm not trying to put you on the spot either.
Obviously, I take that position.
I can answer the question.
I will say that it is obvious that Russia is doing the opposite of the Western liberal democracy globo-homo mindset.
They're doing the opposite in the sense that their propaganda, their information, their state media control, like China, similar to China, is trying to reinforce masculinity, reinforce traditional marriage.
It's anti-LGBT.
It's anti-shirkers and cowardice and stuff.
Is trying to strengthen its cultural resolve against the beast that is the uh, the LGBT agenda and and everything that bleeds out of that it's.
It's bigger than just the the the, the gay and the fake and gay.
I would agree that on the surface certainly, that that is the case in Russia, that that is state-mandated, but what I will say is that Putin is a very, very clever individual and I do not have faith in the Russian state under under Putin and I do not believe that the I've always I've always stayed true to my position from the start, I think.
If we go back to the Trump days, if you take my comments from the Trump days, I was Pro-Putin.
Back then, I was Pro-Trump.
Back then, I was very different in my ideology.
Back in 2016 oh, not my ideology, but my understanding of geopolitics.
I was very different and since discovering the heart, what I would consider harsh truths about Trump and that strategy and Putin and his strategies, I would say that my stance has remained firm, that I believe in a, in a third position for uh, European geopolitics, and that third position has always been that we need to promote as much sovereignty.
and independence of central European countries outside of the Russia-NATO sphere and it's frustrating that the central European powers, like Hungary, like Poland, like Ukraine, like Slovakia, they are being crushed between those two forces.
And I think that Russia, on paper might, might say that it's more white.
The statistics I've seen is that it has more Muslims than it's ever had, and I don't see any less of a crackdown, I don't see any easening or loosening of a crackdown against you know our, genuinely our guys, not like sivnats and conservative types, genuinely our guys in Russia.
I haven't seen any, any loosening on that.
So I can't, I'm not going to change it's not that I can't, it's I'm not going to change my position and my previously held statements against the Putin regime and the Russians.
Better, a better system than the West, but not good enough.
Yeah yeah exactly, exactly.
I would.
I think that's a fair statement.
Like in, in a purely hypothetical scenario, would you rather live in in Globo Homo West and all the tranny agenda and drag queen story hour?
Um, or live in a society that like Russia?
Um, in theory, on paper sure, the the Russian option is better but, as you said, it's not, it's not good enough for me and i'm not in this for pure pragmatism.
I will purity spiral and say that we need a third position, we need a third alternative and I think that when we side with with Russia, I think we have to be.
Well, I don't side with Russia, but when people side with Russia in our wider movement, they have to bear in mind that we don't forget about the little guy in the middle that's getting crushed between both.
Fair enough, Tom.
Yeah, and it's absolutely fair that we project hopes onto Putin the same way that we did with Trump, only to be utterly disappointed.
The flip side of that, of course, is that Putin's been in power for almost two and a half decades now and literally did save that country from perdition.
And certainly the West wants to break it into a million pieces and smash it and turn it into just another Global Homo outpost.
So you have to give the man credit for savily and mightily resisting that over a long period of time.
Sam, I'm sorry for stepping over you there.
Did you move too far afield?
Or do you want to hop in?
Yeah.
No, yeah, she kind of moved beyond the point I was going to say.
Yeah, certainly.
No, that's all right.
It's we're all saying the same thing in a way.
Yeah, just on Russia.
Sure.
Yeah.
If you take like a really top-level look, or you know, you're going to compare it to this country or, you know, it's just how deeply are you going to look at it.
Sure, if you read Putin's speech back, you know, that he made back there some months ago, yeah, how could you not agree with it?
But, you know, yeah, there's a lot of factors in play, and we can't, I don't think we can look at that and hold that up as like, yeah, see, like this, that's how you do it.
Good guy, bad, yeah, yeah, good guy, yeah, it's like, you know, being very fair, yeah, you could look at it and you could observe a lot of great things about it, but you know, how to, you know, looking into the future, what we have in mind, yeah, it's a different, different question, really.
And for the audience, at a micro scale, very, very micro scale, but this is just an example of a situation or a conversation that I'm in at the moment with other white nationalists here in Australia outside of our organization.
And the question came up about we've got Mardi Gras in Sydney, the Globo Homo, and the only people that really properly counter-protested the Mardi Gras were a bunch of Christian Lebanese guys.
And, you know, they were very staunch.
They did the Lord's Prayer.
They marched through.
They actually not just kind of protested it where it was, they actually went to the suburb called Newtown, which is like the, you know, I don't know where you guys are exactly in America and what the equivalent would be.
But what's that one in California north of Los Angeles that apparently San Francisco?
Is that the most faggy gay place?
Yeah, there's a very faggy area.
Yeah.
Well, imagine the faggiest area in San Francisco.
Is there like a suburb in San Francisco?
It's like the worst suburb of San Francisco.
There's one area.
A lot of San Francisco is actually okay, but there is an area that is really bad.
Of course, you know, Sam.
Yeah, Sam likes to visit there when he goes to San Francisco.
Provincetown might be that one.
Is that what it's called?
Provincetown?
Well, that's on the east coast, on the opposite side of the country.
No, we're not hate.
Hate Ashbury was hate Ashbury.
Is that still Gay Center?
Or that was just the hippie ironically named Hait Ashbury, but I don't know.
Yeah.
We'll call it Gaytown San Francisco.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, gay.
So imagine, yeah, imagine gaytown, literally gaytown Sydney, right?
It's called Newtown, Gaytown, Sydney, and it's just a hive of scum.
And you've got these Christian Lebanese guys going through in full force.
I think there was like close to 50 of them going through and, you know, just solar morality, just doing their thing, you know, staunching these puftas.
And, you know, that's, that's, that's on paper.
That's great.
That's awesome.
And in theory, I support it, right?
And I don't want that to be taken out of context.
But it's like, but at the end of the day, they're lebs.
Yeah.
They're not Muslim lebs.
We've got two types of lebs that came during the Civil War in Lebanon to Australia, Sydney and Melbourne.
Heaps of lebs.
There's heaps of lebs here.
And some are Christian and some are Muslim.
And yeah, okay, sure, the Christian ones are much better than the Muslim ones, but at the end of the day, I'm a white nationalist.
So it's great that they're standing up for Globo Homo.
It's great that they're building, you know, what's the word called?
A bullwalk?
Is that the right word?
Against bullwalk.
Yeah.
You know, it's great that they're doing that.
You know, the same way that it's great Kanye West is doing what he's doing.
I'm not going to interrupt people while they're doing good things.
But, you know, I'm not on Team Kanye.
It's not possible.
Kanye's black and he has sex with white women.
So let's bring it back to basics.
I don't like him.
He also has sex with men.
There's Rolo.
Rolo.
And we'll never get him on our show either.
Thanks, guys.
Yeah, I know.
Well, apparently he went silent, right?
Either he got bored.
He got bored or they threatened him more severely than they did before.
But yeah, he's been quiet, all quiet on the Kanye front.
Well, I heard that he's making half a billion dollars fixing up the Addy Das deals.
So maybe he's gone quiet for a bit, counting his money.
Yeah, I mean, I heard that, yeah, maybe he's trying to salvage it.
Yeah.
Rolo, they called him back to him.
But anyway, yeah.
Rolo, do you not have a single question for Tom?
What exactly is it that you do around here?
I do all of your wet work.
Rolo's given me pep talks.
Oh, God, everything is upside down.
Tom, serious question.
A lot of, I'll call them kids and adults look up to you.
And just in the past month or two, we had some youngish Adam Woffen couple get arrested for planning.
I don't know whether it was serious or it was a lop to take out substations around Baltimore to plunge it into even darker darkness.
Baltimore, of course, is a hyper-violent black city here on the East Coast.
I know you knew that.
And then like two weeks ago, a couple, I don't know if they were 1.0, but they were older dudes, supposedly national socialists with all the stuff that were allegedly either pipe bombing or planning to do pipe bombs.
But serious question for people listening who may, I don't know how many in the audience are like that, but I bet there's a few who are young, hopeless, angry, and maybe contemplating doing something violent or saboteur-esque.
What would you tell those people?
For the Antifa listening, he's clarifying.
Yeah.
Hey, let's, I mean, look, some of this stuff is totally fed, created, and inspired.
I was implying all that.
I was implying all the people you described that are the adjectives you used applies to Antifa.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
I am not at all implying that it's like only that.
That's what they would have you believe is that it's only millions of white nationalists out there planning to destroy society.
But obviously they do exist to some extent.
A lot of them get gay opt.
A lot of them are possibly mind-controlled.
A lot of them are maybe just young, dumb, immature.
And impressionable.
Yeah.
So Tom, to the people who might be leaning toward those really wild and woolly quote-unquote solutions, what would you tell them?
Yeah, I've got a few sound bites.
I've certainly got a few things that I've thought about in the time I've had since you asked the question.
Firstly, I'd say that I remember when this culture started to really develop online.
For me personally, noticing this culture develop online was more 2018, I think, 2018, 2019, it started to really develop.
And I had never read Siege.
And all these kids are saying, read Siege, read Siege.
They're thinking they're going to radicalize me.
And then I read Siege and I was.
confused.
I was like, everyone told me this was like a manual.
You know, this is like the most extreme thing you can ever read.
And I, yeah, yeah.
And I was, I was like, this is the, I had the exact opposite take.
I think Mason was very level-headed.
There was a little bit in there I didn't agree with, but most of it, he's pretty level-headed.
And he's saying, you know, he had criticisms of the preppers, you know, that are all individualistic minded and they just go out in the woods and they stay there forever and they achieve nothing.
And then he was also quite critical of the people that are like, oh, we're going to go blow up a substation.
And what does that actually achieve?
And the message that I got from Siege wasn't to go out and Fed post.
The message I got from Siege was outlive the system.
Yeah.
Outlive the system.
And so what I've always preached to young men is don't don't die for these people that don't, they don't give a you know what I mean?
Like, why would you, why would you risk your life dying to what?
Knock out power?
Yeah, rotten a cell for the rest of your life too.
Yeah, or yeah, it's the same thing.
It's like a spirit deck.
You know, why die so that you can knock out power to niggers?
Who cares?
Like, they're niggas anyway.
Like, they're going to knock out their own power.
Just give them a year.
Let's run it in the time machine long enough, the thing's falling apart.
And, you know, I think Mason even said himself that it's like a freight train running off a cliff and it has no brakes.
And you can try to make it faster, but your goal should be to survive the crash.
And sorry, the baby's just coming in to visit me now.
But I'll get on camera for you guys in a sec.
What I was saying, what I was saying was my advice to these young people is don't join a death cult.
Join a life cult.
Outlive the system.
Put that energy into something productive.
And it was actually my loving other side that said to me that if young people don't put their energy into something positive, they'll put it into something negative.
And on that advice and wisdom, I've always tried to make the young guys that get involved in the movement, I've always tried to make it always a positive outlet for their anger and aggression.
And they are angry about what's happening.
They are angry being the only white kid in their class.
They are angry about their parents or the school teachers psyoping them.
And they'd be more okay with them coming out as a tranny than as a Nazi.
And that makes them frustrated because their instincts, their youthful natural instincts, they know that there's nothing wrong with them, that they're right, that this is history.
This is tens of thousands of years, that this is their ancestors.
This is what men fought and died for.
And now they're being psyoped into being the bad guys.
So, oh, of course they want to go do something stupid.
But I always say that that energy is better spent to being constructive than destructive.
And I'm not sure if I made a post about it recently, but I was planning on, or at least doing a podcast about it, but I'm glad I'm on the show so I can address it.
It looks like America's falling apart without anyone blowing up a power station.
I don't know if it's, and a lot of guys down here in Australia, we debate, is America a controlled demolition or is it a demolition?
Is it controlled by?
Because, you know, like the whole West is, it's like it's a controlled demolition.
And I don't know, obviously the Jews are from the top down rolling the thing, but have they done so much poison now?
Have they done so much subversion and rot that things are coming into play now that are the product of subversion 50 years ago?
And I remember only 12 months ago before all this suddenly exploded terminology came out.
I remember only 12 months ago when I first got out of jail, there was a lot of posting being put up on Telegram.
I'm not sure which pages or groups, but basically saying that American infrastructure is falling apart.
It's been designed to last between 50 and 70 years.
And the vast majority of the infrastructure of the pipes, of the roads, of the railways, of the airports, the this, the that, were built between 1950 and 1970.
So basically, it's all come up on its use by date and it's being held together by duct tape and diversity hires.
And the fact that we've got this exploded suddenly, I think there is an agenda.
I think the Jews are burning down the grain storage like they did in Egypt, you know, two, three thousand years ago, whatever.
I think they are causing a forced famine.
I do think they're doing that.
But I think so much is falling apart just because it's at the end of its life cycle and no one cares anymore.
And what I'm concerned about are two things.
The system, and this is the soundbite.
I think the most important thing I'll probably say on the show tonight.
The two things that I'm most concerned about is young guys wasting their lives destroying something that's already falling apart.
And the second concern, not in that order, I think an almost worse concern is that young guys are going to waste their lives holding it together.
And what I mean by that, I'll expand on the second point.
What I mean by that is it's very clear that the Zog system is gearing up to try to work out how to save, face, and recruit the white manpower back into the armed forces and back into repairing America.
Against Russia or against China or against both.
Whoever.
yeah exactly and also don't forget that there that ball is already rolling to to go to war with either china and or russia so So everything that they've done, like controlled or accidental, like they're going to need those white men back.
And I think somewhere along the line, they just said, oops, a daisy, we alienated a lot, but we had already planned this war.
Yes, exactly.
And I'm very concerned about any white man that is going to get fooled into this civic, this conservative civic patriotism and not have a fully fleshed out understanding of folkish nationalism.
That, you know, no more wars for Israel, no more wars for Zog.
You know, if China invaded Australia, so not to go back to the Russia-Ukraine thing, I want to avoid it, but in a hypothetical scenario, China invades Australia, right?
Hypothetical.
And it's like, I have to defend my country.
Now I'm fighting for Zog.
You know, now I'm fighting for Aussie Zelensky.
Yeah.
You know, but my other option is completely alienate all the other white men that are fighting against these Chinese.
And when the eventual cultural shift and Spiritual revolution occurs post that victory, like what we saw with, you know, post-victory or post-loss, whether we're in a Weimar situation post-World War I or we're in a different kind of situation.
But post-that World War III, or even during that World War III, when these white men say to me, when we were in the trenches fighting the Chinese and you were on Telegram telling people, you know, don't fight for Israel, don't fight for Zog.
You know, why should we now support you in your quest to create a free, wide Australia?
When there was a nice Muslim guy that fought alongside me and he was a good bloke and he fought against the Chinese invasion.
So it's, you know what I mean?
It's so complex.
I'll pause.
I'll go for air.
It was great, Tom.
Hey, we've gone almost an hour, 20 minutes here.
We're due for a break, and your beautiful baby girl is there now.
I can't see, unfortunately, Mike.
I'll show you.
No, the guys here, they can tell me.
For us.
Go ahead.
Is your fiancé right too?
Yeah.
Beautiful.
Smiling through the microphone, as people like to hear.
Let's end on a high note here, Tom.
It's almost springtime here.
Beautiful.
I was out today with our youngest getting some pots ready for planting seedlings.
How'd you do out in the garden this spring and summer?
Any winners, any losers?
lessons learned you got you got you got chickens Come on.
You must have had some winners and losers out there.
Or were you huge wins?
Tomatoes, we didn't have a spring here in Australia.
I don't know if Zog shut out the sun.
You know, not to sound like a schizo.
We did not have a spring.
We had six months of winter and then it went from very cold to 30 degrees overnight.
And it was very bizarre.
There was, you know, I think a lot of cloud seeding.
It was very bizarre.
There was a lot of floods.
We normally get a flood, not necessarily once a year, but we get it pretty often.
We'll get a flood.
And we had three separate flood seasons in about a two-month period.
And every farmer I know that was doing cash cropping lost multiple times.
They seeded, they lost, they reseeded, they lost, they reseeded, they lost.
They broke.
They had to sell.
So not sell, but you know what I mean?
Reload, refinance.
Something very strange happened here in Australia in our spring.
Very, very strange.
And I personally, the capsicans and tomatoes, or what you guys call peppers, the peppers and tomatoes did not do well.
They did not do well.
They're doing okay now, but very, very late season.
They were delayed.
They're delayed by more than a month.
So peppers and tomatoes just heaps done really well.
More than we know what to do with.
And one thing that's doing amazing at the moment is pumpkin.
Amazing.
I didn't realize how once a pumpkin gets set in the ground, once it really gets set in, it's so strong.
I mean, one of my pumpkin plants is, I mean, there's probably like almost 20 pumpkins growing on it.
And like they're big, they're massive.
And to think it started from one seed is just so fascinating.
You're getting like when it's all fully grown, this one plant, I've got six pumpkin plants growing.
This one plant, I'm going to get like 100 kilos of pumpkin.
So it's a lot of pumpkin soup.
County fair, whatever you call it down in Australia, you know, Tom and his pumpkins.
It's incredible.
And the chickens, they're doing really well.
The most fascinating thing is down the side of my house, I haven't planted anything.
And the chickens go down there and eat the weeds and stuff.
And I've got tomatoes growing there.
I've got corn.
I've got oats.
And it's because they're pooped out all this stuff down the side.
And I've just weeded it a little bit.
And now there's even more.
There's so much stuff going down the side of the house.
And I haven't planted anything.
The chickens are just pooped seeds.
And I got tomatoes growing down the side of the house now.
And all this, yeah, corn, oats, I think barley, like stuff I don't recognize.
Accidental surprises.
Yeah, I love that.
My family always beautiful.
Don't throw that out.
Don't throw that out.
I got to throw that out in the different beds.
And, you know, maybe we'll get some surprises in the spring.
Tom, so over the moon for you and your fiancé and your new white life there.
Congratulations, big guy.
You sound great.
You're standing strong.
Damn glad for your time.
Now, did your concigliaries advise you on a musical tune this week, or you forgot to ask him for a break track?
Well, I think you advised me that you were going to do something other than music this time.
That was in the beginning.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, no, your sound bites from the courthouse are going up at the top.
But we're going to take a break.
You're welcome to come back, but I also don't want to take your time with baby girl there.
I got to remember that lined up.
Go ahead, place it.
Whatever.
What was it?
What did I play last time?
Do you remember?
I know I should know.
It was a slightly more obscure classic Australian country song.
John Mellencamp.
I'm getting told it was either John Mallencamp or Paul Kelly.
It was Paul Kelly, for sure.
Paul Kelly to her door, I think.
Yeah.
Well, this time we'll go Bruce Springsteen.
I'm on fire.
All right.
Got it.
All right.
Thanks, Tom.
Godspeed to you and the lads in Australia.
Bless your family.
Keep in touch.
And yeah, if you do need to boost that legal fundraiser, let us know.
And yeah, enjoy your new family.
Excuse me.
I appreciate it.
Blood and honor.
Hell victory.
Hell victory.
Take care, brother.
Okay.
Did he go and leave you all alone?
I got a bad desire.
Tell me now, baby, is it good to you?
Can you do to you the things that I do?
I can take you hard times, it's
like someone took a knife, baby, A.G.
And a little Girl.
Cut a six-inch belly through the middle of my snow.
At night, I wake up with the sheets open wet and a free train running through the middle of my head.
Welcome back
to Full House, episode 152, second half or second quarter, whatever the hell it'll be.
You know, I tried to get rid of Tom there at the break, let him go hang out with his family.
He's not really a fan favorite, a little bit slow radio, but the son of a bitch is back here at least for some time with the second world.
We're, of course, I have to rib him a little bit, you know, every show.
Yeah, abuse the guests.
But before we go back to Tom, we got to take care of business here.
New White Life this week got a lovely message from Joe.
Joe says, My wife and I welcomed our second son into the world this week after a long road of failed pregnancies.
I'm pleased to say that he is healthy, strong, and mercifully easy so far, thanks in part, I believe, to our decision not to circumcise.
The all-white staff at our rural hospital did an incredible job of making sure mom and baby were comfortable and well taken care of.
Our older boy is beside himself with excitement to be a big brother and is eager to help out.
When asked how many children he wants when he's grown up, he says he wants a thousand kids.
Here's hoping.
And that was from Joe.
Joe, congratulations to you, your wife, your two sons.
We wish you many more sons, many more daughters, and a lot of guns too.
And we got delightful feedback from an old, at least he's an old friend going back to the Twitter days.
He followed us over to the show and he liked Sam, our conversation about the good black or the good blacks, right?
The ones that don't cause any trouble and, you know, apologize for bumping your young son in a bathroom.
And he said he had this bit of wisdom from his old man and he gave me a voice message and a wonderful southern drawl to impersonate his old man.
And he would say, you know, blacks ain't all bad.
It's just that nine out of ten of them give them give the rest a bad name.
Never relax.
There you go.
Old southern wisdom.
Yep, probably right in the percentages too.
The talented 10th and all of that.
We got lots to come here in the second half, but let's use Tom while he's here.
And I did semi-overlook and semi-intentionally did not go too much into fatherhood here because it's Tom Sewell.
Like we wanted to talk a little bit about new fatherhood and family and having a new baby girl, but we had to get to the meat too.
But I neglected to ask Tom how the delivery went.
Was there any drama?
How did mom hold up?
I've had a big guy.
Well, I'm not sure if I said it on a previous podcast, but I was born on the bathroom floor.
I don't know if I told you that already.
You mentioned it in New Zealand, right?
In New Zealand.
I came out so fast that my dad named me Thomas the Tank Engine.
And because nothing could stop me coming, I'm the coming man.
And I was born on the bathroom floor in about, I think it was about an hour, maybe an hour and a half.
And I was the second.
So they say the second is faster than the first generally.
Usually.
And so I go faster.
Yeah, and when I was born, they couldn't make it to the hospital.
And my dad actually did the delivery.
And my entire life, I'm telling you, my entire life, every single time my dad got a glass of red wine in him, he would tell the story about how he delivered me.
And he would say, with these hands, boy.
With these hands.
These hands, boy.
And every single time he'd have a glass of wine, the story would come up.
And I would get to hear.
And I would always beat him to the chase because I've heard it every week or whatever my whole life growing up.
And I would say, these hands, boy.
Well, let me tell you, it's become a family tradition because we had a home birth.
The water broke at about 11.30.
And I actually messaged my boss because there was no contractions.
And I messaged my boss because he's got two young kids.
He just had a baby.
And I said to him, hey, man, when her water broke, how much water was there?
Because I wasn't sure whether her water broke or something else was going on.
And he said, oh, how much water is it?
And I said, I don't know, like two liters.
And he goes, bro, her water's broken.
Like, that's, you know, it's not like a little drip.
Like, that's like it's going on.
So obviously, I'm not coming into work tomorrow.
And the first half, about an hour of, I would call them mild contractions.
Obviously, she was in a lot of pain.
But we had planned a home birth.
So we got the birthing pool.
You know, I'd blown it up, but I didn't expect it to be so fast because we had a private midwife team, like organic midwives.
They do everything, you know, old school, wholesome.
I mean, a birthing pool is not that old school, but like no, no jabs, no injections, no tests, no this, no that.
They don't prick the baby.
They don't, you know, go in there and feel for it.
Like it's just all old school.
And they just let the mom do their thing.
And I called her and I said, the water's broken.
And she said, have contraction started.
And I said, sort of.
And she said, she had warned us weeks earlier, you know, don't call me multiple times in the middle of the night.
And her theory was, you know, she's been through, you know, she goes through 100 pregnancies a year.
And she said, most of the time, the water might break and the process might start at nighttime.
But usually by the morning, it slows down.
The cortisol hits, the sunlight hits, you're not in the mood anymore.
And it's a difficult day.
And then usually it starts up again at night with the home birth.
And then usually the second night, the baby's born.
And not to just incessantly call her through the night, unless it really is coming.
And I was like, all right, fair enough.
She goes, you've got plenty of time.
Just relax, just chill.
So about an hour goes by and it starts, you know, the contractions are 90, 90, you know, 90 seconds on, 90 seconds off.
And she told me 90, 90 and animal noises, it's coming.
And so I called her and I was like, it's 90 seconds on, 90 seconds off, and there's animal noises.
You know, she's not completely coherent.
And she goes, can I speak to her?
And I said, all right.
So I put the phone to her and it's on speaker.
And she's like, nah, nah, you got plenty of time.
Nah, nah, it's not, it's not that bad.
But I think that she's just tough.
She's managing the pain, you know.
And she goes, go have a shower or a bath.
Just chill.
And your breathing will go back to normal and you'll be fine.
This is going to take hours.
Don't stress.
So we go in the shower.
And initially, the first five minutes we went in the shower, it calmed down.
The contractions sort of like really slowed, not as intense.
And we're like, okay, she's right.
She knows what she's talking about.
Everything's chill.
And then it starts up again.
And within about 45 minutes, it's full on now.
And I don't even have the birth pool filled up.
So I'm running around the house, plugging in the hose, and you got to get the right temperature.
So you got to get it, you know, body temperature, which, you know, you guys are Fahrenheit, but that's 36 and a half Celsius here.
And so, but the hose is plugged into the laundry.
That's the only one that has a thread on the tap.
And, you know, I can only do hot water or cold.
I can't do both.
So I'm doing all hot water and it's too hot.
I filled it halfway up, but it's like 45 degrees.
So I'm like trying to change the tap over and the hot water has like fused it, like everything's expanded.
So I'm like running out the door, trying to find a wrench.
And she's like, where are you going?
And I'm like, I'm locking the car.
Yeah, I'll buy off the milk.
I'm truly a Uyghur nationalist now.
And I did the wrench.
I'm changing the taps over.
The hose, like, you can hear the hose like come out of the pool, spray the living room.
Midwife is on the couch watching TV somewhere else.
The midwife hasn't even come yet.
The midwife's not even there.
I know, that's what I'm saying.
She's chilling.
Yeah, she's in bed asleep.
I managed to get the tap changed over.
I'm pumping cold water.
She's freaking out.
She's saying the head's coming.
And I'm like, it's still 40.
I'm like, it's still 40 degrees.
She's like, what a bucket.
So I'm bucketing cold water in.
Yeah, I get it down to 36.
We have one more contraction.
And I managed to pick her up out of the bath and get her into the birth pool.
And as we're doing that, the head comes out.
And I'm like, oh, the midwife's not even here.
I call the midwife.
And I'm like, I'm like, it's here.
The head just came out.
It's definitely here.
I'm on my way.
I'm on my way.
What am I going?
Anyway, we have two minutes of just pure pain and then and freaking out.
And then the next contraction comes.
And then these hands, boy, these hands.
Family tradition.
And just boom, caught it straight in the hands.
And just shop putting it back through the center.
And she's got the baby.
And she's there, just like, look what I made.
And then a couple minutes later, the midwife shows up and just happy days.
So Sam is going to roll his eyes and my wife is going to roll her eyes for my ignorance here.
All right.
So it's just you and your wife and a brand new baby that's still attached by the umbilical cord in the swimming pool.
What, like, do you first, did you smack it on the back to get it to get hurt across?
It's not an it anymore.
Yeah, walk me through without too many grisly details what you actually did after that new white life.
Yeah.
So we didn't know whether it was going to be a girl or a boy because we didn't get any of those later ultrasounds to check the sex.
Yep.
I think we got one kind of latish, but we specifically said we don't want to know.
And we just want to know that had 10 fingers, 10 toes.
No, that would have made a difference, but I mean, just for Beck really more than me.
And yeah, the midwife's like to know also what position it's in.
But anyway, so long story short, the millisecond, the millisecond the baby's head.
So it's born underwater.
I've caught it underwater.
I pass it back through her legs because she's not on her back.
The whole point of this type of birth is it's allegedly more natural birth for women to give birth on all fours.
It's a lot easier.
It's a lot less painful.
They don't have to push because gravity does the work and the body naturally contracts and pushes the baby out.
You're not pushing against gravity.
You're not pushing up in stirrups.
The baby just kind of comes out.
It forces its way out and the body pushes it out as well.
So there's no pushing.
There's none of that.
It's not like when you watch the movies, it's like push, push, push, push.
Literally none of that.
Like there was no pushing, nothing.
It was just contraction after contraction and it just came out on its own.
And I'm really hanging out.
You're hanging out down there by your wife's ass while she's on all fours, essentially.
I'm in the pool.
I wasn't, I was outside the pool hanging into the pool.
And so the baby comes out.
Obviously, it's underwater.
And that's scary.
And it's not conscious.
It's underwater because it still comes in the womb.
The whole point is that it still thinks it's in the womb.
So it's a less traumatic.
Anyway, as soon as I pass it through and it's in her hands and she sits back against the pool and the baby comes up out of the water, the millisecond it's out of the water, just screams straight away.
Just conscious, awake straight away.
They've got like an internal sensor.
As soon as they come out of the water, they're awake and they start breathing and they gasp for air and their lungs open up and it's incredible.
Oh man.
Wow.
Yeah, incredible.
Did you cut the cord?
Yeah.
So the other thing that we did, which is a big part of the organic midwifery, is you don't, we didn't cut the cord straight away.
So there's a lot of nutrient transfer in the first hour.
And they say the baby, it only has about three quarters of its blood when it's born.
About a quarter of its blood is in the placenta.
And so we stayed in the pool for about half an hour.
And then we got out of the pool and went on the couch with some towels down.
And she just held the baby, even got the baby to latch while still attached to the umbilical cord.
And then when the baby, sorry, and then when the umbilical cord stops pulsing, when it goes white, there's no more blood left in it.
Then I cut it.
Huh?
Sam, is that new?
I'd never heard that before, but it makes sense.
Sam's like, of course I know that.
Yeah, some of those details I did not know or had not heard before, but I do know that there's the blood in the cord is very important.
Oftentimes they will save it and things like that.
So, and the delaying of it too.
I've heard of that.
Yeah.
And then I guess if the baby's still attached to the umbilical cord, then the placenta is still sitting in the interior.
Did you have to deal with that cleanup?
Yeah, so then so then, so for that hour, the placenta stays in and it more or less stays attached.
It sometimes detaches on itself on its own before you cut the cord.
But in our case, I don't think, wait, did it detach?
Do you remember?
She doesn't remember.
Trauma.
But I think, yeah, I think it detached.
It detached just before we cut the cord, but it didn't come out until after we cut the cord.
Okay.
Yeah.
That was.
Well, man, I mean, yeah, God bless you guys.
You got, I don't want to say you got lucky.
I guess most of them go that way.
But yeah, no midwife there, just doing it on your own.
Now you got the legend for all time.
Your son one day.
Your son one day will be safe.
Your grandson or your grandchild for sure.
It's way too early and I don't want to be greedy.
Are you thinking you'll probably at least try to have more down the road, right?
Oh, I think we're going to end up with Dutch twins, you know?
All right.
I'll be very surprised.
I've told her there's going to be no zero, zero attempts, nothing.
You know, we've got to heal up six months.
But yeah, I'll be surprised if we if we make it three months.
Good stuff.
Yeah.
I was going to say two, you know, two to three years is a sweet spot for is too much just from experience.
It's, you know, well, whatever.
More the merrier.
I was saying months.
I was saying months, not years.
No, no, I know.
Yeah.
And I'm not, I'm not going to discourage you either.
I'm not crazy.
Yeah.
Like, I think, ideally, I think that I'd want like an 18-month to two-year gap between kids.
I think that was probably enough time.
If she's breastfeeding, then that often spaces the babies out as long as she's doing it all the time.
Yeah, they usually can't fall pregnant until they stop breastfeeding.
So, yeah, well, I guess, look, I leave it in God's hands.
I don't make the rules.
I'm just going to play the game by the rules and we'll see when the next one comes.
It'll come when it's ready.
Right.
But the prediction is that it'll be a girl as well.
There'll be two girls in a row.
So it might be a while before I get a boy.
We'll see how we get.
That's all right.
You keep trying until you get that little take.
Yep.
Oh, we're going to go for, I reckon we're going to go for eight.
We're going to go for Mother's Cross Gold Class.
Good man.
Yeah.
That's the plan.
Yeah.
Amen, brother.
But we'll see how we go.
Yeah.
Good stuff.
I got more questions for you, but if you want to run, if you got to run, go for it, buddy.
No, I don't have to run.
I can do a few more.
All right.
It's kind of shifting gears, awkward segue, but who cares?
The great or terrible debate in the United States has sort of resurfaced.
There was a time when we were all on board the Trump train.
And then we all knew that the Republicans were mostly cowardly or bought.
We had no illusions about that, but we thought maybe the strongman could come in and fix it.
And then there were people who stayed on that train because, well, you take the guy who's in power versus some grandiose delusions of taking power yourself separately or with a better candidate, et cetera.
Long story short, the debate has resurfaced again between it's useless to try to play in the political system back away, or you should only do it locally, or the GOP is still the party of white people in this country, no matter how ineffective, or third party, pro-white party, etc.
Without passing judgment on all that stuff, I know you don't live in America, but you have a roughly similar situation in Australia between two parties, both of whom largely suck.
Are efforts in political involvement?
Do any of those options strike you as the wiser one?
I've always said, and I'm just regurgitating talking points here, but for the guys that are new to the theory, I've always said that real power comes from the back end political power.
And that whatever strategy it is that you're doing, let's say it's a political party, the power behind the political party is the community that votes for it and the cadre that builds it.
And whatever strategy it is that you're doing, there has to be not necessarily mass support, but there has to be a supporting force.
And so I always say that there's a spearhead.
All the guys that are public right now, we're the spearhead.
Whether you're public as an information provider, whether you're a telegram account, whether you're a YouTube account, whatever content creation you're doing, whether you're doing an active club model, whether you're doing a homesteading model, whether you're doing a political party model, whatever model it is that you're doing, its power derives from its support.
You know, it's got it spearheaded, drives away, it puts the message on the table.
But the really big focus to me is whatever strategy you're doing, you have to build that grassroots support.
So I don't believe that the only reason why you should do political parties is to be local.
I just think you should start local.
I don't think you should start with these grandiose, we're going to take over the GOP.
You know, obviously, you know, wheel things in the power, triumph of the wheel.
I mean, that's NS ideology, symbology, rhetoric, everything, triumph of the wheel.
You've got to say from the start, this is what we're going to do.
This is our plan.
This is where we're going to go.
But there's a difference between ideology and, okay, how do we pragmatically put boots on the ground?
Well, what suburb or what town or what region or what state or even lesser than that are we going to focus on first?
And you have to start somewhere and bleed out from there.
So I agree with almost any strategy as being better than doing nothing.
The issue is that can you get the necessary manpower to make the strategy viable and have a growth path?
You have to be a growing organism.
You have to have a growth path.
And you can't grow for the sake of growth because obviously that's cancer.
And the major complaint I've always had about political parties or the political party model is that it attracts people that aren't willing to do anything other than vote once every four years.
And this is not a community.
This is not a support.
If we talk about that breakthrough strategy, that blitzkrieg, that spearhead, whatever metaphor you want to use, if you imagine a spear breaking the siege, we're in an informational war.
The enemy has besieged us.
They're shutting it down, as they say.
How do we break through the siege?
How do we break through the Stalingrad?
They've got to surround it on all sides.
They're controlling all the mainstream media.
They're trying to control all the mainstream social media.
They're trying to make it five years in jail for putting a flyer on someone's front lawn.
So we're under siege.
We've got to break through the siege like a spear.
Now, the tip of the spear is, let's say it's a political party model.
You've got Enoch Stryker.
You've got these spokespersons.
They're the tip of the spear.
They're going out there.
Let's say it's an informational model, whether it's a series of different Telegram accounts, like we got Full Tide, we got Western Chauvinist, we got Zumawaffen.
Let's say it's YouTube.
We've got Asher Logos.
We've got, I don't spend that much time on YouTube anymore, but you've got all these different really good YouTubers that are really pushing the spearhead on YouTube.
Let's say it's Active Club Bottle.
You've got Rob Lundo, you've got NSC, you've got Patriot Front, you've got Tom Sewell, EAM, NSN, all this stuff.
So that's the tip, right at a tip.
That's a front-facing.
You need to have people that form the rest of the spearhead and the shaft.
You need to have a community that's driving that.
And you've got your supply routes.
The Blitzkrieg, German Blitzkrieg model can't work.
It can't punch through the enemy lines.
It's got its armor at the front, but it can't punch through if it doesn't have all the fuel and all the resources and all that stream of manpower coming in behind it that's useful, useful manpower.
Not people sitting at home saying, pray for Ukraine or pray for German Blitzkrieg.
That achieves nothing.
Vote once every four years for German Blitzkrieg.
That achieves nothing.
You've got to have men on the ground getting the fuel and getting the supplies to the guys in the front.
And it's more than just money.
That's more than just money.
So I hope that answers the question in some capacity.
It does.
You are in roughly the same situation as we are with a big country spread out coast to coast, et cetera.
Do you have the same problem that we do?
Everybody's like, come move out here.
It's great.
And other guys are like, no, come move here.
But I know you have some strongholds maybe in the South, but that problem of limited men in a massive country.
No, we don't have that problem.
Within our community, within our organization, we have, I guess, just a gentleman's agreement that we don't poach.
We don't poach guys from other states.
Occasionally, there's transfers.
Occasionally, guys move, often because of family circumstances and stuff like that.
But as a general rule, we don't have that problem in Australia.
But that's because there's really only one organization in Australia.
There's some ones behind the scenes, but in terms of public facing, I don't know how they deal with poaching and with transfers and stuff, the non-public facing organizations.
But we don't, yeah, that's one thing that we don't deal with here.
And have you guys, I don't want to probe, have you run anyone for office or has, you know, quote unquote, one of our guys run for office there or gotten into office and maybe undercover?
Phrase carefully.
Yeah, we've had multiple different layers of our involvement in the political process over the last eight years.
We have had people run for office unsuccessfully.
We've had people run for smaller offices successfully.
And we've also supported people and had guys deeply involved in the support team, the support staff of federal and state candidates that have been elected.
And none of the people that we've ever supported, none of the people we've ever run has ever had any longevity.
They've gotten in, whether it be by some layer of sneakiness, they've been more or less upfront that they are conservative, nationalists, whatever, and that they advocate in some capacity for white people.
And more or less, as soon as you start signing, you know, putting bills on the table that advocate in any way for white people, as soon as you put up, even it's okay to be white.
You get found out.
Even if the fact that half the staff supporting you are members of my organization, the intelligence organizations would know that, but sometimes they don't pass on everything to the media.
They only pass on if they really want to screw with someone.
They'll do that if the person gets re-elected.
But if the person doesn't get re-elected, then they don't bother interfering as much.
But they'll hit them with artillery and they'll make sure they don't get re-elected because they obviously don't serve Zog.
And you're back to square one.
So, yeah, I've never invested in that strategy other than I've supported people that are doing it on their own accord.
And I've always said, I'll help you.
I'll support you.
I'll give you guidance.
I'll give you manpower.
I won't give you money because I think the money is better spent on gym equipment and activism and stuff like that.
But I will support you.
I will give you manpower.
I will give you the time of day.
I will mentor within reason.
Sure.
Makes sense.
To follow up on that question, what you raised, the conundrum from the first half, China invades tomorrow and you get re-enlisted, redrafted, or you volunteer.
What's your calculation?
You go into war or are you going to sit it out?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I'll go to war.
Yeah.
All right.
But the thing is, China is not, and that's the sad thing is China's not going to invade because they've already invaded.
There's about 2 million PLA-trained army reservists here in Australia already.
They've already invaded and our country has opened the gates.
The traders in our country have already opened the gates to the Chinese infantry.
They're getting, yeah.
And there's an old classic conservative speech, or it's almost like a track called How I Would Destroy the Country.
It might be Paul Harvey.
It's from a decade or two ago to the point from the first half about, well, if I were to, you know, is it a controlled demolition or is it just a collapse?
And even though it's sort of conservative boomer tier, it's like, well, I would open the borders and I would weaken the family and I would degrade the culture and I would debase the currency and all these things.
And it's like, man, yeah, are we really so sick that we're doing all these things suicidally or is it being perpetrated?
Yeah, I lean toward the capital.
I've had the most important thing that I try to explain to the young guys and the new guys about staying involved and staying out the course because you have no idea the power that something you do, the power that has down the track.
And I did a speech outside of Box Hill police station in 2019 about the police officers raising the Chinese national flag on their national holiday at the police station because Box Hill is one of these suburbs in Melbourne that's completely taken over by Chinese.
It's probably 90% Chinese.
And it's a little like there's Chinese police stations there in the towers.
They're probably abducting Chinese citizens there that say the wrong thing on Facebook about China or Xi Jinping.
You know, it's like the whole suburb is like a little mini, mini China and a parallel society in a nutshell.
And I did that speech in 2019 and I have guys on work sites come up to me off the bat and say they recognized me.
They saw it on TikTok.
They saw it on YouTube and they love that speech.
And like they see what's happening.
They know what's going on.
And that was uploaded a couple of times to TikTok recently, taken down, uploaded again, taken down, uploaded again.
It's had millions of views on TikTok this year alone.
That speech.
And that was 2019.
And it's 2023 now.
It's almost four years.
It's about three and a half years ago.
And the legacy, that one tiny little speech that I did, I do a speech a month.
And that one, for some reason, that one hit, well, not for some reason.
It's obviously a motive.
I really felt that one.
I knew that one was going to be important when I did it.
And I always say to guys, so always stick around.
You never know how much power something that you did four years ago that's going to have now.
And that's doing the rounds now because I was four years ahead.
Well, infinitely ahead of time.
I mean, there's young Aussie tradies waking up now to what the Chinese are doing in Australia.
They're waking up to the reality that we've been saying the whole time that China is invading us.
And now Australia, just like America and especially under the Biden administration, are talking about a potential war with China over Taiwan or, you know, because of the Russia situation or whatever.
But there's a geopolitical reality that we could be at war with China within five years.
And that's World War III.
When you go superpower to superpower, that's World War III.
And so Australia is gearing up right now war with China.
And they can't even list enough people in the police forces, let alone the military.
They're bringing in foreign mercenaries to work in our police forces at the moment.
You get Australian citizenship and you get a job and you get transferred from fucking Papua New Guinea or Indonesia or China or whatever.
And boom, you straighten up police force.
They can't recruit enough people to the defense force and the police force here in Australia at the moment.
They're filling the ranks with foreigners because they're worried about the instability that they're causing internally and externally.
And they're gearing up for war in the Sky News boomer department, the R equivalent of Fox News with China.
And I was saying this stuff in 2019 when there was no Ukraine-Russian war, when there was no system aggression towards China.
When we were on great terms with China, trade was on an up, And we were letting them buy up our country.
And so it's so important to be ahead of time, to say things that right now people might not agree with, and to not optics cuck and to come out and be like, this is a problem.
This is why it's a problem.
And then your legacy grows from that point until you're proven right.
Amen, brother.
Yep.
It's a good reminder.
One speech, one tweet, one little thing you can do can echo through eternity.
As grandiose as that sounds, it's true.
And my last question in the stack for you, Tom, is you gave wonderful remarks, confident, measured, humble to the press that got tens of thousands of views on Telegram alone.
At least XYZ News covered it.
I don't know if it made the TV over there.
And you said, Australia for the white man, Hail Hitler, which of course is music to most of our audience's ears.
But have you ever reconsidered that?
A serious question.
You know, you give a great performance, everybody's jiving with it.
And then that last Hail Hitler turns off some percentage of the audience that might have been sympathetic to you.
Have you already gone through that struggle session?
I'm sure Blair Cottrell would say, ah, you did great, mate, but that was stupid.
And what's your current thinking?
I mean, I know you're a lifer, you're sticking with it, no cucking.
But did you ever consider cutting the hail Hitler thing to appeal to more people?
Well, it's beautiful, beautiful that you said that.
Beautiful timing, because as I was just saying, you say the truth from the start.
Doesn't matter whether it's four years later, people come around and realize you were right, or 10 or 20, or 30, 40, 50.
I'm a lifer.
I know the truth, and the truth will always find its way to the surface.
The truth will out.
And, you know, you said a certain percentage.
I'd say it's 70%.
70%, you know, let's say there's 100 guys in a room and they watch that interview with XYZ.
Sorry, not with XYZ, that XYZ put up with the press.
And that did portions of that did make national television.
That did get millions of views nationally.
And also on Instagram was actually where it split the most.
There was a lot of guys putting on Instagram and the comment sections were going off.
Everyone was saying, This guy's a legend.
The media, this scam.
Sorry, F-bomb.
I'm going to ice now.
And yeah, write that one down, Rolo.
And put the time stamp in.
I'll tell what to do.
Not you, Tom.
I'm the fur of this show.
Yeah, yeah.
I won't mugging too much.
And I'll wait till you've got eight kids and I'll start mugging you.
But yeah, so when I say we've got, you know, 100 guys in a room.
I say speech.
I say that, those interviews.
70 of them walk out of the room.
You know what I mean?
Metaphorically, when you say the Hail Hitler, I acknowledge that fully, fully acknowledge that.
So why do I still do it?
Because nothing I do is by accident.
Nothing.
So why do I still do it?
And if it hasn't already been answered, it's because the truth is eternal.
And to me, the biggest, the biggest domino that needs to fall, the biggest bulwark, the biggest siege of information, the final, the final thing that falls, the final thing that falls to common consciousness is the truth about World War II and Adolf Hitler and Jewish power.
And so 70% of the room walks out.
I don't support this guy.
He's bringing up Hitler.
Oh, we defeated the Nazis.
But not that long ago, they were up there.
How good's the food?
Multiculturalism's good.
What are these guys?
What are these idiots going on about?
Why do they want it to be a white-only country?
Not that long ago, most Aussie tradies were just like, yeah, who cares?
We're 95%.
Who cares?
It's a bit of Chinese food.
Who cares?
No, I don't make a big deal.
I was once too.
But now they're seeing now.
They walk up at the primary school.
I spoke to a tradie recently.
He rocks up, sorry, another primary school, the kindergarten, and his kid is the only white kid in the class.
And he never thought on racial terms.
He is a full liberal, full normie, and this is the only kid.
And he sees, and all the staff are Indians and Chinese, and he watches how they treat his blonde-haired, blue-eyed son with just disgust, envy, this weird, sickening attitude.
Like they really dislike his son's the problem child.
He's a problem because he doesn't behave the way the other kids do.
And they can't connect to that kid because he's not a Chindian.
And so he's starting to wake up and realize, geez, this is racial.
And so he's not all the way there yet.
He doesn't know Jewish power.
He doesn't know, he doesn't know how Hitler.
But it's only a matter of time.
And some percentage of that 70%, 70 men will have that little seed planted in their heads.
Go home.
Exactly.
Yeah, I was always fascinated by Germany, but I did basically swallow the narrative for the large first half of my life until it was people pushing.
In my case, it was Telegram, just non-Telegram accounts who were pro-Hitler.
We're breaking the narrative.
We're breaking the siege.
We're breaking the narrative.
The Holocaust is a lie.
We're breaking that in real time.
I remember in 2014, I honestly remember in 2014 when I first, 2013, 2014, when I got red put on all this stuff, and I, 2013, late 2013, I'm watching the greatest story never told.
I'm telling all my normie friends about it, and I'm insane.
I'm an insane person.
I'm a psycho.
I'm insane.
They don't want anything to do with me.
And 2013, it was one in a million.
It was one in a million white guys.
We're like, wait a minute, the Holocaust didn't happen.
Now it's probably the majority of Zoomers that are transsexual.
Right.
Yep.
You know, so to me, we've broken the narrative.
The Holocaust is a lie.
People are waking up to that.
The next step from there is understanding, well, why is it a lie?
Why is this lie enforced by law?
Well, Jewish power, and Hitler was right.
So Harold Hitler.
Hal Hitler.
Fun quick story, Tom.
Yeah, go ahead, Sam, please.
George Lincoln Rockwell, he defended his use of the swastika under the similar questioning.
And he said, well, I use the swastika because I want the guys who are not going to run away.
And so maybe in the same way, you know, that you're throwing down the gauntlet by using Adolf Hitler's name that way.
But also, I would make this observation that many years ago, guys like us, we kind of considered ourselves like an elite, you know, because we held the common man in derision because the majority of them were so stupid and so almost unable to be saved.
These people are just, you know, cows, basically.
And but now, like you say, the percentages have changed.
And I would say now there's more sympathy for our positions for many of the reasons similar to what you described.
People are seeing the writing on the wall and conversations are possible now in the last five and 10 years that were not possible 20 years ago and 30 years ago.
So I think that's the, we call the Overton window shifts, you know, is to use a certain meme.
So, you know, and that ties into some of the things we were saying earlier in the show about being discouraged or being encouraged or having hope or not having hope or being desperate.
Like we said, some of those people who would do illegal and stupid things that land them in prison or get them killed, you know, those are people without hope.
Those are people that think that they have to do something desperate.
Whereas now we don't look with great derision necessarily at our fellow man.
And we do have a kind of a community in different parts in Australia there, but even in different parts of our country here, we have wonderful groups of people that are building.
I don't know what you want to say.
You know, it's easy to poke holes at it or poke fun at it, but we're making a kind of a community that we help each other.
We depend on each other for moral support, if nothing else.
You know, we can't live in that demoralized, isolated way the way they want us to.
The system is counting on us being fat and gay and stupid and all those things that they can control us.
But more and more people, because of things, even the change of technology, I always like to say, you know, we had the Stone Age, the Bronze Age, the Iron Age, the Silicon Age.
Well, now everyone's got this, just like the fax machine and the photocopier brought down the Soviet Union.
We have, I'm holding in my hand, the cell phone, which is going to bring down, is bringing down this beast system that we're being oppressed by it.
And we can communicate with each other and we can organize with each other.
And we can keep bad elements out by vetting and all kinds of techniques.
So I think time is on our side.
I think the momentum is on our side.
Fun quick story to support Sam and Tom's points there.
It was recently on a little weekend getaway with a couple of families.
We hit the slopes, you know, we're cooking and eating and drinking.
And one night we stayed up a little later than usual.
And one of the older kids was sort of hanging out with us, playing board games, et cetera.
And then a couple of the dads started talking issues.
And then we knew we had a young man in our company.
So we started very carefully discussing the issues, factual, no slurs, you know, sort of this is the way of the world, young lad.
And at the end of it, I went up to him and I said, was that intense?
You know, was that too much?
And he looks at me and he just goes, no, I knew all that stuff already.
All right.
I was worried that we were going too hard and too detailed and over the top, which we weren't.
But, you know, you never know how somebody's going to react.
He's like, no, I knew that stuff already.
Thanks.
Yeah, you're going skiing this winter, Tom?
Yeah, we'll do another ski trip.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We'll do another ski trip.
Go ahead.
Yeah, when Rollo put in the chat that I bet Tom wants to hit the slurp, so I just took that as a racial slur.
Yes.
The double, double entendre.
I knew he was going to romp a stomp, but he wasn't talking about skiing.
There you go.
We did talk about the game last show, though.
I thought my response to that is, of course, no comment.
Rollo listens to every show five or six times to critique my performance.
I want to say, Tom, Hang, if you like, I do want to talk about depression and melancholy here for a second because it's obviously something that a lot of our people go through, not to mention the guy who committed suicide before facing trial, Charlottesville veteran.
But yes, it's not about me.
It's about the phenomenon.
Everybody gets the blues sometimes.
Everybody goes through rough patches, work, marriage, kids, anything.
Sometimes when I'm out there riding the rider mower on a beautiful day in Appalachia, and I just feel like I'm on top of the world.
And now I think it's probably a function of long, dreary winter, half depression about my knee, my back.
I recently threw out my back for the first time ever.
I'm like, oh, God, just what I needed.
But I told Sam before the show that it just felt like a heavy, wet, malevolent blanket on my brain where, like, nothing like, you know, oh, my beautiful family and wife, nope, that's not going to make me happy.
All the good things that I know I've done or that I'm good at, nope, those are worthless.
You suck, coach.
It's not about me, but it's about that feeling.
Because, Sam, I know you've had that in your life.
Yeah.
And just in case anybody else out there is dealing with it, tactics, how did you deal with it?
Did you just smack yourself in the face and get over it?
Or did you work through it?
No.
And it's, you know, it's curious because one of our good comrades that we both know just recently contacted me and said, man, I'm really getting overcome with despair.
What do I do?
Or just looking for some advice.
And, you know, there's the physical things first.
And you've already said now you hurt your knee, you hurt your back.
When people are laid up, they are at risk to get depressed.
So that could be part of it.
So, but I'll make some other general observations for just anybody.
I would always ask the person, do they drink coffee?
Because if you drink coffee, if you're a regular drinker and many people that drink coffee are like addicted to it functionally, you do not get a full night's sleep.
You might think, oh, I drink the coffee to get myself up so I can go to work in the morning, whatever it is.
And then at the end of the day, you think you're ready to go to bed, but that caffeine is still working in the system and you do not get a full night's sleep.
So what do you do the next day?
You drink coffee.
You know, yeah.
Well, right there.
Now, if I had to give it up, and I talked about this story on the show, I won't go into all the reasons why I gave it up.
But once I did give it up, it was over a year before I even tasted a drop of coffee.
And when I finally did take that cup of coffee, I could sense my anxiety going up.
I could, my reactions to things were different.
And I would say they were not only different, but they were wrong.
And it hit me all at once.
And I could almost like replay a lot of scenes from my life when I was too reactive in a bad way.
Or my poor family, you know, I was impatient with them or, you know, just it messes with your emotions.
And if you try giving it up for a week, or I don't know how long you need to give it up for a few days, even maybe, but if you go a week without it or two and go back and have a cup of coffee, you will see how all of a sudden your paranoia shoots up, your reactions shoot up, things become accentuated.
I assume depressants too.
So you're saying avoid stimulants and depressants.
Alcohol.
Well, I have found that coffee had a worse effect on me than alcohol.
And so it could be different for different people, but I would just point to some of those physical things, not getting a good night's sleep and maybe not getting a good night's sleep because you're drinking coffee or because you're injured, like you say.
So those would be some physical things.
And then things like daylight, physical activity, those things are good.
And, you know, it's a little bit ups and downs are just normal for people's life.
But when the downsides come, then that's when you have to make sure you don't give up the good things like the company of other people.
Because when we're feeling down, we don't feel like socializing.
We don't feel like making.
making pretend like we're happy or something.
But it's being around other people that will put your problems in better perspective, or maybe not even problems, but just your concerns will put them in the correct perspective.
And the other thing that I told the guy that contacted me, because he shares my faith in a lot of ways, is, you know, you should have some ritual every day in your life, like morning prayers, evening prayers, things like that.
And when you're feeling down, that's the most important time.
Don't neglect your good habits.
Keep with those things.
So do you still get the blues, Sam?
Not as bad as maybe in the past?
No, I've right.
Before it was just something that was happening to me, you know, and I learned how to combat it in these different ways.
And the other thing is once you're suffering it and you're suffering it kind of regularly coming and going, really kind of becoming a victim of it.
You know, it is a serious thing because we were talking a little bit before the show.
And, you know, I can remember being in a depth of depression and saying to myself, like, this is killing me.
Now, I don't know in what way I meant that, but I don't know.
Is it wearing down my health in some way?
Just living like that, you know, and the worst part of it as I look back on those different times in my life where I allowed myself to remain in that state was that was all wasted time.
You know, the time you spend in that state is such a waste of your time too.
And, but again, just touching on a spiritual aspect of it is that this despair fully embraced is actually like a really serious sin.
You know, way, way more serious than maybe like a sins of the flesh or something like that.
So not to make the depressed feel more guilty about themselves, but if you really analyze it to be like, yeah, you're literally discarding all of the gifts that you have in your life.
Somebody's always got it worse and feeling sorry for yourself like a useless sack of shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's so, and, but, and then finally, again, you know, in a faith type of answer, the, the thing that we have to do when we have those problems, we, we can't just change ourselves is we have to confess them.
And that's when you get the grace to change.
And even if it takes many times confessing the same things, that is what will break the grip on that thing.
And it could be anything.
Maybe somebody's overweight because they eat goislop all the time or something like that.
And they just can't help themselves.
They can't put the Twinkie down.
Well, by confessing this, and I would say confess it in a religious way, but even if you confess it to your friend or somebody you trust, well, that's the way we get the strength and the power to overcome these things we otherwise cannot change just by logically thinking about it and things like that.
So those were the things, you know, once I started doing those things, then I got control over the situation.
Hell yeah.
Tom, do you ever get ever get depressed?
Yeah, I think everyone has ups and downs.
And what I've found as the best strategy personally for getting out of downs is to work harder.
Yeah, and work has set me free.
And I don't just mean work for money.
I mean, there's always something to do.
And when you're down, when you're depressed, whatever you want to call it, you have no motivation to get anything done.
And as soon as you get one little thing done, you feel a little bit better.
And then you get more done and you feel better again.
And you get more done.
And I've never, ever, ever fell down after a hard day's work, plus gym, plus a healthy meal, plus need and tidy a few things up, and every other duty and routine and anything else that I need to do.
And yeah, I think having good, good rituals, good routines, whether it's prayer, gym, you know, rituals and routines.
To me, that's what keeps everything moving forward.
And it's about consistency.
It's about discipline.
And when you fall out of your routine, that acknowledgement that you've fallen out of it and getting back in the routine and working hard again.
And most people that I meet that are depressed, they don't do enough.
They're lazy.
They're depressed because they're lazy and they're lazy because they're depressed.
And the way you break it, in my opinion, is you work harder, you get more done.
No man that's working hard, working his ass off for a noble cause, for a noble family, for a noble existence.
No man that's doing that could ever be sad.
Right.
Well, and as you said, because you're wasting your life.
In my opinion, you've got only so much time.
And people are sad because they're wasting their life.
If you're not wasting your life, you can't be sad.
So stop wasting your life.
Get out there and get fit.
Get active.
Work hard.
Build skills.
Improve yourself in the real world.
And work now and play later.
Get the work done.
And like you said, there's a certain amount of just natural ups and downs to life.
And Saint Ignatius Loyola wrote this what he called the spiritual exercises, which I read some years ago.
And part of that was understanding the natural cycle of this.
And he would give certain things, okay, when you're in the what they call the arid cycle, the dry, the dry time.
These are the things you do, you know, to realize that it will come to an end.
This is, oh, we've seen this happen before.
This is, we're downright.
We're feeling down right now.
But okay, these are the things we do and that will bring us out of it and we can expect to come out of it.
And then interestingly, too, when you're feeling on the high times, always realize that the tough times are also going to come back, you know, so you kind of bank some of that good feeling.
And, you know, and so this way you gain mastery over yourself.
When I think about it, I think that the most frequency with which I feel the blues or depression, whatever it is, because I do have the self-awareness to realize like this too will pass.
Grumpy pants.
It's usually winter.
I'm usually poorly slept.
I'm probably a little overweight and haven't been working out partially because of weather, partially because of injury, whatever, partially because of sloth.
And I'm staring at my damn phone too much, you know, trying to keep up with threads and consuming negative, realistic news and energy from the world.
Set aside a time for that.
You know, there's nothing wrong with a little bit of that, looking at it, but keep it, make an agreement with yourself how long you're going to allow yourself to spend on that.
And go for a worst case scenario, go out for a walk.
I felt like a million bucks getting out there, putting some potting soil into all our pots in our newly renovated makeshift greenhouse that my wife has put a ton of time and work into taking from a dilapidated pump house into a beautiful, well, we'll see how the plants do.
That's on me.
But yeah, just getting out there.
The other two kids didn't want it, but my little buddy, he got out there and got his hands dirty.
I said, please be very careful not to spill the dirt everywhere.
He said, okay, Dev.
And he was good.
He got it all in there into the pots.
And coach, I thought I would dovetail one of the items on my list with this, goes with this topic that you're talking about, despair and all that.
I was listening to the radio the other day.
Well, I was listening to a podcast.
The podcast ended and I had a few few minutes left.
The CDC had apparently put out some kind of report that like from the COVID time, you know, that now the data is in like what effect on the suicide rate and stuff like that from people being shut up in their houses and these lockdowns and stuff like that.
And so the person reading the news, she brought that out and they were going to have a special guest.
So then they bring out the special guest, Amy Levinson.
Of course.
Of course.
And I wanted to, I tried to look it up later to see what actually the organization she was part of.
I don't think she was with the CDC, but I, you know, and I couldn't locate any more information.
But anyways, I did want to repeat her remarks as close to verbatim as I could remember them.
And she says, yeah, you know, we have data now from the time when people were in lockdowns.
What effect did it have on the suicide rate?
And the biggest jump was in the suicides by black people.
That went up some like 25%.
It was a shocking jump.
Was it suicide?
Was it suicide by cop?
Well, I'm just telling you what she said.
And she said, yeah, that went up.
And then the highest suicide group in the country, which I was surprised to hear, is what we call Native Americans or Injuns.
And that has always been, I guess, the highest.
But that rate went up a bit to keep them at the number one.
And then, but the only group that went down was non-Hispanic white people.
And that is disappointing.
That's exactly what she said.
White privilege.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She says, she says, and that's disappointing.
And I said, am I the only one who's hearing this?
The way she is saying it is like she was disappointed that white suicide rate went down.
And the whites were the only group that went down suicide.
The quiet part out loud.
Yep.
Yeah.
Up to the old trick.
See if you can find that clip, Sam.
That would be bad.
Oh, my God.
It was, you know, it was really good.
Hey, I know you're trying to end the show, but I did have a couple of things I wanted to put out there.
Kind of important.
Yeah.
Tommy Boy, excuse me for being so glib.
Tom, thank you so much for coming on.
Go spend time with your family.
Delighted to have you on here in the second half.
You're welcome back anytime.
Go forth and multiply, as the Serbs say in church sometimes.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's been a pleasure as usual to be on the show.
Thanks for having me.
And my final request is you put up, because you guys haven't heard it, the Anglo-Bard version of The Poison Taste So Sweet, which is the poem that I wrote.
And I think you'll really appreciate it.
It's very, very wholesome, very family-friendly.
And, you know, I hope it becomes a bit of a cultural icon.
I hope so too.
We'll play that to close the episode.
Tom, strength and honor to you and all your brothers dead under and around, brother.
Blood and all.
Thanks, man.
See ya.
All right.
All right, Sammy, baby.
What else do you want?
Yeah, and I'm going to church tomorrow morning, too.
So I got to be a good motherfucker.
Wow.
There you go.
Good.
That's good news.
Okay.
I wanted to mention, you know, some shows ago, I put this request out there that we had one of our good brothers, good friend who's in dire need of a kidney transplant.
And we, you know, when you put out a request like that, I mean, imagine looking at your best friend or someone in your family and saying, hey, I need your kidney.
You know, it's a hell of a thing.
It's a hell of a thing.
But our friend Mike is a good man.
And he's just a little older than me, not by much, but he's, you know, he's a clean living guy.
He's just been dealt a bad hand in life.
And so we put that out there and we had a courageous man come forward and offer to at least explore this possibility with Mike.
And we went back and forth communicating a little bit and until to the point where I figured out this guy might be legit.
And so I put him in touch with Mike and we've been and they have been handling that now that those conversations have been going between them.
And so I'm only mentioning all this is, you know, this is a rare thing.
I'm asking for prayer request here.
This is a prayer request for anyone who has a mind to pray.
But it looks like this thing's going forward.
There's been testing and there's been papers signed and things like that.
But there's still, you know, there's always, there's certain challenges, maybe things like, you know, do people have to be vaccinated against the stupid COVID or whatever.
So there are, you know, there are bureaucratic details to be surmounted.
But, you know, Mike asks for everybody to pray for him.
You know, this could this could be something that works out.
It'd be a amazing, wonderful story of comrades helping each other.
And so I just wanted to ask, ask for everybody's prayers on that.
Absolutely.
Almost too good to be true.
I haven't even wanted to check in on it for fear.
Yeah.
Exactly.
You know, because it was a shot in the dark.
You know, I was worried.
It was, you know, like somebody who's interested, but maybe not serious.
But holy smokes, this wonderful donor seems willing and able to do it.
And in our last email chain, Sam, I said to him something like, oh, man, you're a saint.
And he responded back and corrected me.
Now, don't get offended by this, Sam.
He said, I'm not a saint.
I'm a national socialist.
Right.
Right.
He's willing to give his kidney to a stranger based on our word and the word of the recipient and a faith that that is the right thing to do.
What a man.
I won't even say a sock name up.
We'll have him on the show.
Yeah.
Assuming he survives the donation dog kidney.
Sorry.
Yeah, no.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I hope he didn't.
Yeah.
I just beat.
Good luck.
Yes.
Yep.
Exactly.
I didn't want, I said, I want to, Mike, I want to hand this off to you.
I don't, I can't bear to be the go-between on this.
So, but every everything looks like there's a strong possibility that this is going to go through.
And so, anyways, there's talk about saving the best for last, Sam.
Yeah.
And I had another thing I wanted.
This is also a request.
And this is going to maybe someone who's ambitious or an opportunist among our ranks.
As you know, I am on the White Power Hour.
I play a little bit of music with Mark Whitewolf over there.
And so we have a show.
We play music is basically the show.
And we're really, we're looking for a producer.
And we're maybe looking to go just a little outside of, you know, maybe the normal pool we would draw from.
And right now, as it is, I record my portion.
I send it to Mark.
He puts it together.
But he has trouble with just the time of it.
He works and he works on his segments.
And it would just be nice if we had a producer who would even also put their own creative touch on the show and just help put it together.
And Mark would be open to hearing out creative ideas or someone who wanted to help with the show.
I don't think it's a great big deal to do, but we just thought maybe there might be some young person out there or just anybody who might be interested to have the file sent to them.
They put it together.
We put the show out.
The goal is to have it every week.
But as you know, a full house doesn't come out every week by a long shot.
So it's, you know, it's not like we're extremely rigid about that.
So if anybody would like to become the producer of the White Power Hour, we would certainly entertain that.
Glad you asked, Sam.
Yeah, I'll put it in the show notes for sure.
I wrote it down here.
That usually means it makes it in there.
And absolutely.
So somebody just needs a little bit of editing chop, splicing things together.
Yeah.
Right.
Like if you use, if you know how to use Audacity or other similar programs, we send you MP3s.
You put them together.
I could tell you the thing that I produce comes fully mixed.
And my part is about 45 minutes to an hour of all music.
And it's just a matter of plug and play.
But I don't know if you had time for one or two more quick little things like that.
I was going to mention.
Sure.
Well, I sent you guys a picture of the puzzle that my son and I put together.
It was a birthday gift, which came kind of at the end of last year.
And one of our dear comrades, I don't know if it matters if I mention who it is or not.
I guess I just won't mention it.
But we had a comrade who came and he gave my son this beautiful, rather challenging thousand-piece puzzle of the periodic table of elements.
And it took us actually quite a while to put it together, but we did get it together.
And it looks so nice that I actually, you could buy a frame that's exactly the dimensions and it's inexpensive.
So we put this very tricky puzzle in the frame and hung it on the wall.
And I sent you a picture of it framed.
Maybe you stick that in the show notes.
People might get a kick out of looking at it because it's a 1950s version of the periodic table, which the elements were arranged a little differently than those long periods of, let's see, four and five are laid out longer.
And then, yeah, you still have the lanthanides and actinides along the bottom.
But anyways, so we put that together.
But the only reason I'm mentioning it is, you know, you ask people, give me your warmest favorite childhood, A5 favorite childhood memory, you know, and putting this, you know, anytime you ask that, you really want to give a good answer.
And sometimes you give an answer that is, I don't know, maybe not your favorite, you know, when you think about it.
But I remember one of my favorite childhood memories was, you know, in the era before video games and internet and cable TV and even VCRs and VHS tapes and all that stuff, you know, people did other things.
And I remember as a child, I would go to visit.
It was actually my mother's aunt and uncle, but my great-grandmother had quite a few children.
So my great aunt was actually the same age as my mother, and which was not uncommon in those days.
So they, so we would go visit there and they had their own several children that were, you know, quite a bit older than me.
But I could remember they would have the, especially maybe around the holidays, they'd have a card table out there and they'd have a puzzle out there.
And it was just a kind of inviting thing where anybody might just pull up a chair and start working on the puzzle, you know, and then you would talk to each other.
And I can remember what would be my great uncle.
He would be sitting there with his cup of coffee.
He would be working on the puzzle.
And then people would sit down and help him.
And I just remembered that what a nice memory that was.
And maybe other people might keep that in mind as a fun, wholesome activity to do.
But now here's the million-dollar idea, which I shouldn't just be giving away like this.
But the million-dollar idea is somebody's got to put, you know, like puzzles that we would like.
That's right.
Is that not a thing yet?
Oh, man.
No.
You know, somebody make up.
Yeah.
Put some kind of puzzle of some symbols or something.
And then that could be the community project.
People sit around, talk to each other and put a puzzle together.
So anyway.
It's great too, Sam.
Yeah.
Wifey's been getting into jigsaw puzzles again, I guess.
There was one cold, snowy day where she's like, come on.
You know, it's the old meme, like, let's day drink and eat tacos.
In this case, it was day drink and put a jigsaw puzzle together or whatever.
I was like, all right, fine.
I'll go.
So I went out to Dollar General and just found whatever they had, but it was particularly painful.
But it's a little bit addictive in that like this is difficult.
No, I'm going to step away.
You know, I'm going to stop here.
And then you're looking at it over on the table and you're like, ah, maybe I'll go back.
The wonderful thing is every single, with every single, there's some metaphor for life, I don't know, but with every single connection or match you make.
It's easier.
It's got easier with that.
Yeah.
Well, and it's even competitive because it's like I find one, then I find another one and you're sitting over there struggling.
You can't even get one.
I said, guess what?
I just found another one.
And then I find one and we're just where you're sitting, I go put it together right in front of your face.
So it's a good, it's a good pastime anyways.
And I do great and possibly a lost.
Yeah, just like playing board games or something.
It's, you know, we live in such a soulless society sometimes, you know.
Yep.
Rolo, we played code words again and the great kerfuffle over the George Floyd clue came up multiple times from last year.
If you remember that.
I know, I do remember it.
You know what?
I want to play that game.
It's like you don't do one for one.
You have to be creative.
That is how you win code names.
You have to smart.
I can't remember what the hell the game is.
It's code words.
Code words, isn't it?
It's code names?
No.
Son of a bitch.
I can't remember it.
Can't keep it straight.
I'm losing it.
42, going on 62.
Time to put coach in a home.
Please put me in a white home.
Wyoming anyway.
You have time for one more remembrance or are we shutting this thing down?
Make it quick, Sammy, baby.
We got to love this puppy.
I don't want the priest to be angry at me tomorrow.
I'm sleeping on the pew.
No, I got to get up early too, and I got to go too.
Well, tell you what, I'll save these other couple of stories.
I got two more stories I want to talk about.
I'll just save next time.
How about this?
Absolutely.
Sounds good.
Keep them in the stack.
God, gosh darn it.
We'll record a show within the week, whether it's us or whether we have a guest lined up.
I'll pull the you-know-what out of my you-know-where.
Big thanks to Tom Sewell.
Big thanks to the audience for riding with us.
I don't know.
How long are we at now, Rolo?
Four hours, five hours, six hours?
No, maybe two and a half.
15 days, six minutes.
It's been two weeks since you left.
I'll stop there.
Regardless, it's been a joy, a pleasure with Tom, and it's also a joy with just the three of us.
We will be back next week.
There was something else I wanted to say, but it's escaping me now.
Whatever.
Back in the saddle.
Sam, thank you so much, big guy.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's been great.
Rolo, you see how I defended your honor.
Tom was trying to give you an assignment, and I stepped right in there and shut it down.
I had already written it down.
It was okay.
Benevolent.
I wasn't accepting him.
All right.
I'm trying.
I'm trying.
But no, seriously, when I was in the dumps a week or two ago, Rolo had to call me on separate business and he did a very lackadaisical, he flew casual and he cheered me up.
He knew I'm a skeptical SOB and I wasn't going to take freaking stump speech to get me going.
They call it playing to the audience.
There you go.
You knew your audience.
You did it well.
And I appreciate it.
And it worked.
That's what matters.
And to all of our lovely audience out there who may be dealing with late winter doldrums or just doldrums in general.
I know there's another good friend of ours out there who is steaming hot mad about getting denied certain medical treatment.
Hang in there, buddy.
If you hear this, believe me, we all got problems and somebody else is unquestionably worse off than us.
To close us out this week, well, you know, follow us on Telegram, gab, full-house.com, givesendgo.com slash fullhouse if you like what you heard in this marathon show.
And of course, always feel free to drop us a line with good news, bad news, questions, complaints, et cetera, to fullhouse show at protonmail.com.
I can see comments on the website, but they do not appear publicly.
So you can do that too, but it's just up to me to respond.
There are comments that you can leave on Americoner.org.
There you go.
They have a functioning.
Yes.
I went back to our web guy and I said, please try to fix this.
Old Mr. Reproducer and I tried and failed.
And he said, I can't fix it without totally redoing the website for whatever reason.
That's old news.
Everybody knows that.
And that's all I got.
We're going to close out.
I have not heard this poem set to music, written by Tom Sewell, performed by someone else whose name I forget.
Apologies.
I hope it's good.
I hope you enjoy it because we're going out here on a limb with it.
And I got to be a good boy, go to church together tomorrow, get my life together.
And we love you, fam.
We'll talk to you next week.
Rolo, it's all yours this week.
See ya.
Stacking the picture.
See ya.
See ya.
Later.
You'll barely even notice how the poison tastes so sweet.
You'll barely even notice how the poison tastes so sweet.
Don't get too caught up in the lights Of the bright circus show.
I know we can't compete at all With fairy lights at home.
I know we can't compete at all with fairy lights at home.
You've traded sounds of roosting hens For crowded streets and noisy cars.
It's so busy late at night But you cannot see the stars.
It's so busy late at night But you cannot see the stars.
How good's the food?
You'll hear them say, Oh, different kinds.
You'll meet The foreign incense must the smell of feces in the street.
The foreign incense must the smell of feces in the street.
The customs are all strange in there.
They'll dance and shout with glee, But in the morning sat they wake.
It's pharmacology.
But in the morning, sat they wake.
It's pharmacology.
Sly salesmen sell you shiny toys.
They're custom-made for you.
They'll make you feel so wonderful, But so do brothels too.
They'll make you feel so wonderful, But so do brothels too.
They'll sell your love in plastic wrap.
It's soulless and it's cheap.
You'll sow these seeds of emptiness And this is what you'll reap.
You'll sow these seeds of emptiness And this is what you'll reap.
The old stone walls are falling down And nothing's built to last.
You won't find mothers cooking there.
It's purgatory's grasp.
You won't find mothers cooking there.
It's purgatory's grasp.
Go into Babylon, My son Go see it for your keep.
But in these words of wisdom, still The poison tastes so sweet.