One of the core purposes of this show is to encourage white men and women around the world to have as many white children as they can safely and healthily raise and to discard the silly excuses that too many of us make to shirk that duty.
Without a blood stake in what the future will be like for white children, it's tempting for most to submit to self-indulgence, apathy, and liberalism.
But for painfully many of us, for one reason or another, conception just isn't in the cards.
And for those couples, adoption often enters the picture.
Yet, like so much else in this fallen world, the foster care and adoption system is infected by many pathologies.
And tonight, we are honored to welcome on a survivor and then thriver from the foster care system, as well as a father who attempted adoption, but decided to go the fertility treatment route instead.
So, Mr. Producer, prepare to dive.
Episode 84 of Full House, the world's most caring show for white fathers, aspiring ones, and whole biofam.
I am your soft-hearted host, Coach Finstock, back with another two hours dedicated to creating a future for white children.
Before we meet the birth panel tonight, though, big thanks this week to Marcel Reagan, Heywood, I'll just pronounce it Yablom, and Publish Goiglione for their generous support this week.
And Punish Goiglione let us know that the last 88 cents of his donation came from his wife.
So, thank you, Wifey.
Punish Goiglione, thank you too, sir.
And Heywood, you were particularly generous.
We see you there, pal.
Thank you very much.
With that, let us get on to our regular-sized but reduced-sized core birth panel this week.
First up, if he were a real man, he would have adopted seven white children on top of the seven that he already has.
Sam, you lazy shirker, you good one.
Thanks, Coach.
Hey, Coach, I was listening to the link, or I was going through that link on the website that lists all the music that's played on Full House.
I don't know if listeners have spotted this, but they should go through this and listen to this music.
It's a great selection of music.
And I went through the list, specifically selecting songs that I was unfamiliar with or didn't know the artist.
And I burned a CD with all this music on there.
I don't know if anybody.
Very 90s of you, Sam.
Yeah, the last person who's burning CDs, but no, I, because I have a CD player in my room, and so I burned this CD.
And I went up there and I played it for me and my wife.
I played it, and especially these two songs that you pointed out: this Gareth Emery, You'll Be Okay, and Tycho, Japan.
Those were the songs that got me started on going through the list and listening to it.
So we were listening to it and I played those two songs and then I made sweet, sweet love to her.
All right, Sam the man.
Well, you have a discerning taste in music and you've recommended a lot of songs on this show.
So I appreciate that, especially the electronica stuff.
I promise I'm not going to make you into another meme of Mr. Producer where you're no good layabout.
And I also promised myself I was not going to make a CD's nuts joke there when you're talking about these.
That's right.
But yeah, that's up on full-house.com.
It's music heard on Full House.
Yeah, it's mostly linked to YouTube links and stuff like that.
And yeah, as I put in there, it's one of the most, it's easy and fun part of the show.
Because yeah, this stuff, I don't know what you call it.
EDM maybe is a lot of sure.
That's what the young kids call it.
Yeah, because I mean, I listen to a little bit of techno or trance here and there, and that's really something different.
And I was familiar with the George Jones and some of the metal, classic metal, and Crocus and stuff like that.
But I was not really familiar with some of those things.
And it was an interesting listen.
I recommend it.
Thank you, buddy.
Appreciate you flagging that.
He was not prompted to do that, dear listener.
All right.
Finally, tonight, we have no Smasher and no JO this week.
JO is dealing with a domestic emergency, not related to his wife or child.
And Smasher is busy.
So we are excited then.
Me, Sam, and our silent producer get a little quality time with two very special guests.
First up this week is Nate, who emailed in.
The origin of this show was somebody I know who's considering adoption and asked if we had ever done a show on this.
I mentioned it a couple of weeks back.
And these two gents emailed in to volunteer their knowledge and wisdom.
So Nate was kind enough to let us know that he did, in fact, grow up in his teens.
Well, we'll let him talk about it in the foster system.
And it was not exactly a wonderful experience.
So Nate, welcome on Full House, buddy.
Yeah, thanks.
Thanks for having me.
Our pleasure.
And you know the drill.
You're a listener.
Your ethnicity, religion, and I don't even know your fatherhood status.
Yeah, white.
My dad's side is from Norway.
My mom's side is long, you know, long-term America, like founding stock American.
Sure.
I am not a father yet.
I hope to be at some point soon.
But we'll see.
Yeah, we hope so too.
Any ladies in the works or are you dating anybody?
You know, it's what you say.
It's complicated.
All right.
I don't know if that's a face status that you can see.
I'm still relatively young compared to, I think, compared to most of the people you have on.
So, I mean, getting started, young, is probably just in case the Full House Love Connection needed to make another reach out.
We'd be happy to.
And how about religion, buddy?
Yeah, you know, I was not raised in a religious household or any really religious household.
So I have been attending local just Eastern Orthodox church just because it's the only one in the area.
And, you know, it's nice.
I wouldn't consider myself, you know, particularly religious, but I understand the value Christianity has.
Sure.
Yep.
A lot of Orthodox listeners and certainly a lot of WN become Orthodox advocates, which I get.
I was married in a Serbian Orthodox church and it was beautiful and moving far more than a lot of the stuff that I remember from Catholic Church, but not knocking that either.
All right, Nate, hold on for a second while we meet our other special guest this week.
He has been a fairly regular correspondent to Full House with feedback on shows.
Seemed very smart.
And he also responded to our adoption call because he and his wife already have kids.
It's not to spoil his introduction, but they decided to go for the adoption route.
And he let us know that it was not exactly a smooth experience.
So, Calem, welcome to Full House and thanks so much for coming on.
Hey, thanks, guys.
Lay it on us, buddy.
Ethnicity, religion.
And how many you got?
So I'm Germanic and Scotch-Irish.
I'm whiter than a sheet of paper.
And as far as religion goes, I was raised agnostic.
And I through a, I guess you would call it a near-death experience.
I fully believe in God.
I'm convinced God exists because I've met him.
No kidding.
Yeah.
All right.
Come on.
Yeah, you can't dangle that one.
What happened?
You saw you went to the white light?
Yeah.
Well, I was misdiagnosed with an acute disease, or not a disease, but a medical condition that was going to kill me.
And they misdiagnosed it.
And I had probably about 12 hours to live.
Wow.
And I'm pretty much, you know, had given up on life, I guess you'd say.
And I was touched by God, I guess.
That's kind of a cheesy thing to say, but in a vital, like you saw him or heard voices, or just you were grateful that he made it through?
Felt it.
Felt it.
I was comforted.
But anyway, so, you know, I read Revelo Oliver and he makes a pretty convincing case that Christianity is just a make-believe thing by the Jews.
But on the other side of the coin, I see what a hard-on Jews have over Jesus.
So that's the most compelling thing or evidence that Jesus actually is, was the Savior.
That's right.
What they hate and what they attack generally means it's a good thing.
Yeah, it's kind of inversion.
And as far as kids go, we have more than Smasher and less than Sam.
All right.
Nice job.
Good.
And we haven't given up.
You know, I'm in my early 50s now, and we are still trying.
Oh, you're close to my vintage.
Yes, I'm closer to Sam than anybody, probably.
Oh, God, two Xers on the show.
Nate, I'm a millennial Mr. Producer.
Well, we won't go into that.
And Nate sounds like he might even be a Zoomer.
I don't know.
I'm really close to the cusp.
That helps.
A good deal.
Calem, one more question before we shift back to Nate.
Were you married and did you have kids when they told you you had 12 hours to live?
I was not married and we did not have kids.
Oh, okay.
So I was going to say that would be a pretty traumatic and then wonderful, miraculous thing for the family to go through.
So, all right, Nate, you emailed him with some of your details, but obviously the audience knows nothing.
So I guess start out with how you were originally raised and then how you ended up in the foster care system.
Yeah.
So, I mean, originally, I'm, you know, I grew up in a very rural area in the United States.
Very rural, like imagine, you know, packages delivered by float planes, kind of rural.
Okay.
And lost my father in my early teens.
And my mother was determined unfit to raise me and my younger sisters.
So entered the foster care system.
She'd revoked her parental rights.
And I spent pretty much the rest of my childhood there, but some of my younger sisters were adopted pretty early on.
What happened there without probing too much?
Did friendly agents come and take you away to a halfway house of sorts?
Or how does it work in that, I imagine, very traumatic moment when you get split up and put somewhere else?
Yeah, pretty much.
I mean, there's at a certain point, I think, and to be honest, I'm not super well researched on the actual minutiae of the law.
There are some CPS requirements.
And I believe there's laws that require some level of attempt to keep siblings together.
But, you know, frequently there's not halfway houses and temporary foster facilities that are capable of handling large families.
So very frequently siblings are split up pretty early on.
Sure.
One of the things we've talked about on the show is the vital importance of parents creating a living will and identifying somebody, ideally a blood relative or whoever is the most competent or in some cases well-to-do, materially well-off, who would be willing to take the kids if, God forbid, you know, mom and dad got in a car accident or a plane crash.
So in this case, you didn't have any extended relatives or family friends to take you or mom and dad hadn't set that up.
I do have some relatives, but it's a complicated process.
And I think there was some concerns about their abilities as well.
There's a definite bias towards more urban and suburban families within the CPS system, where they go out and check on that sort of stuff.
So unfortunately, they're frequently more likely to place you in a foster care instead of with an extended relative or let's say like a community, another community member.
I don't think they're even allowed to do that.
Sure thing.
And they split up you and your sisters.
Ideally, they keep siblings together, but is it fair to say in most cases, that's just not practical?
And it sounded like your sisters were, at least on paper, more desirable because they were younger.
So they got into a quote unquote adopted and you had to hop around.
Yeah, correct.
It goes, there's a general hierarchy in terms of, you know, which children get adopted and which don't.
Usually it's, you know, young white girls are like the most desirable in terms of adoption.
And then as you get older and especially boys, the likelihood becomes less and less.
Sure.
Were you able to maintain contact with them or have you reconnected with them today?
You know, some different areas of the country and things like that.
You know, you try, but at a certain point, it becomes complicated, especially as people get older.
Yep.
Yeah, even for blood siblings who grew up in the same house together, they don't often stay in touch or even remain friends, right?
So all right.
Well, take us through your journey then, your trials, if you will.
You hopped around to a bunch of houses.
What was that like?
Why did you hop around?
And some of the best and the worst, the highlights and the lowlights of that.
Yeah, I mean, it's typically, I think most movement through the system is just capacity and willingness of the foster parents to handle long-term care.
Like I said, I'm not super familiar with the minutiae of the law itself.
I'm just familiar with the way it ends up working out.
When I think of foster parents, unfortunately, we were talking about you know who, of course, before the show.
And I think of Terminator 2 and Edward Furlong, and that with those sort of like don't care foster parents in Los Angeles.
They're not my parents.
They're just my foster parents.
Again, it's just the reality when I think of it.
That comes to mind.
That's the programming.
What was it?
Do foster parents go into it seeking to adopt?
So foster care is sort of like a trial run for parents who want to adopt, or do these people literally just want to be a halfway home or a temporary home for kids who are in trouble, from your experience, at least?
Unfortunately, I believe, at least in my experience, it primarily is, you know, I hate to be cynical about it, but it's largely just profit generating.
I know that sounds awful, but there's a significant amount of money given to, you know, short-term foster homes and halfway situations.
So they'll usually take up to the max capacity that they can until they're prevented from doing so.
And then kids move on and kids move around.
And the parents that are actually looking to adopt are the ones that get out of the game really early.
They find kids and they stick with them and it becomes a long-term adoptive home.
Sure.
And of your various foster experiences, again, whatever you're comfortable talking about, were they bad as in abusive?
Were they simply not that into it, you know, doing it for the money?
Or did you have a couple good and loving ones?
Yeah, I mean, you know, at least in my experience, and like I said, I'm trying to be as neutral as possible.
But in my experience, it's apathy is the best you can kind of hope for.
You know, there's a rampant amount of sexual and physical abuse in that system.
And, you know, that's a concern that I think everyone should have.
You know, I think there's definitely loving families out there and people who are actually in it for good reasons.
But those aren't necessarily the ones you remember.
Yeah.
I remember growing up, a neighbor across the street died and his house went up for rent, I believe, instead of for sale.
And there was a period of like two months.
Maybe it was longer, six months, I don't know.
But like all of a sudden, this sort of ragtag family moved in and they had like 10 kids in a three-bedroom house running around crazy, wild.
My parents and I were like, what the hell is going on here?
And then, you know, five, six months later, they were gone.
They moved on.
And it was just a bizarre.
It was like a tornado.
And I suspect, yeah, they were probably fostering to support their way of life, I guess.
How about race?
Did you have non-white foster parents or back then, was it still all white?
It was primarily white, but there was a lot of non-white kids in the system.
I don't know actually if it's the actual civic on it, but it felt like an overwhelming majority of kids in that system were non-white.
Yeah.
Mr. Producer says he bets that people who foster dogs adopt those dogs more often than people who foster children.
Yeah.
And for the audience, too, I don't want that this is not set up to be a hit piece on foster parents.
I, you know, Nate would probably agree.
There's tons of loving and generous foster parents out there who are doing wonderful things.
And there was a period, I can't remember if we had kids already or if we were getting toward that sort of, you know, when we were approaching our 30s and thinking about having kids, my wife going through one of the foster care websites and just looking at all of the heartbreaking stories of white children out there who need homes.
So if you're listening to this, dear listener, and you're in the position where you might consider fostering or adopting, we definitely want you to consider it.
Our intent here is not to scare you away with horror stories, but to just get to the bottom of both foster care as well as adoption for your benefit.
Nate, how about you mentioned the hierarchy there in terms of kids?
Younger white girls, I presume, are favored.
And that's not, you know, some people's minds may go to a dark place there, but I presume it's because girls tend to be easier, less rambunctious compared to boys.
But you also mentioned a go ahead, Sam, please.
I was just going to say this is a point also considering now in a time when blended families are somewhat more the case.
When you have a boy involved, you must consider that when that boy becomes a teenager, is that he is going to become assertive.
And if you're going to have a blended family or adopting children, oftentimes girls are better in the sense, sadly to say it, that they will be more likely to be helpful in the house and not have that same assertiveness that males will have.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Nate, you mentioned in your email to the show that there's also, in addition to a hierarchy for kids to get fostered, there is a hierarchy of the types of people who foster children.
You have infertile couples.
You already mentioned couples that need the money.
Maybe they didn't need the money to begin with, but then they got hooked on it.
And then the altruistic ones who already have kids of their own and are looking to do good.
Did you have experience with both kinds?
Mostly the second two.
So the infertile couples.
Rent seekers.
Yeah.
Typically, the infertile couples go for young kids, babies.
Usually there's systems in which you can list a child that is unborn in the system.
And usually those types of parents seek out very young children, babies.
And it kind of goes up from there.
So the altruistic, they're less selective.
And, you know, and then there's, you know, obviously very little selection in terms of the, you know, the rent seekers.
I think that's a good term for it as well.
Right.
And from your experience, if there was any, when you're looking at it after the fact, any corrections or glaring problems that, you know, your dictator for a year, what would you change about the foster care system, knowing what you know now?
I think there needs to be more of a push to get kids out at a younger age because at a certain point, you know, if they let you float around too much, you just become completely undesirable, right?
I think probably after the age of 15, there's a close to zero chance that you'll ever find a long-term situation, especially for boys.
But, you know, like I said, there's, you know, I'm not necessarily qualified to implement any implant blend or even suggest any changes there.
Well, with that attitude, yeah.
Right.
Go ahead, Sam.
And let's not forget that this system and this whole idea is something that people like us being in charge should address.
So let us not forget the atrocities like Victoria Smith who was given to these Negroes and then murdered by these beasts.
That's right.
Yep.
And I was just reminded today of the lesbian couple that adopted either black or multiracial kids and then couldn't take it.
It drove off.
Just drove off through a few.
Yeah, I remember that.
And I was just reading about a gay thrupple.
You know what a thrupel is?
Unfortunately, yes, I do.
And they had, you know, they were they were adopting a child or maybe more than one.
So yes, there's atrocities going on out there.
So maybe I am qualified to make suggestions.
Not that.
Make that illegal.
That shouldn't be allowed.
There you go, Nate.
Yeah, you're growing up on 400.
And, you know, you sound like a smart, well-put-together guy.
Now, you mentioned getting them out earlier.
I assume you mean out of foster care and into an adoptive home where they are formally legally adopted.
It's not a temporary situation.
How did you break free?
Was it literally like 18th birthday and into the army or something like that?
Yeah, I mean, I pretty much aged out.
I was in a long-term-ish home for the last two years, I think.
But yeah, pretty much aged out of the system.
I don't know that, like I said, I don't know the exact cycles on it, but I think the vast majority of boys who aren't adopted by the age of 15 end up aging out.
And how'd you do, man, without mom and pa to guide you and coast you into adulthood?
Did you just the bootstraps thing?
I floundered for a bit, for sure.
Luckily, a place where I was going to school had a relatively good engineering program.
I got into computers.
I did that for a couple of years.
Just, you know, it was at the time, it was one of the few careers that you could kind of pursue without having a college degree.
So I did that for a while.
And then, you know, I kind of went semi-luddite.
I live in the woods now.
So I'm much happier now, albeit making less money.
Sure.
A little tougher to find your forever mate as well out in the woods.
But yeah, we'll make it happen.
Are you excited, enthusiastic to get married and have kids, or do you have a little bit of nagging?
I don't mean to be too much like Oprah or Donahue here with the emotions and stuff, buddy.
But, you know, we've never had, I have never really spoken to anybody from your background.
Do you have anxiety based on your background?
Like, champ it at the bit to go and be alpha dad and have lots of kids.
You know, to be honest with you, I don't have really like a baseline of what the normal anxiety of a person is.
I think I definitely do, but I, you know, I feel like I'm more motivated to be a better parent, sure, you know, having experienced what I had than a don't want to toot my own horn, but then I think someone who hadn't experienced that.
But, you know, who knows?
Absolutely.
Nate, question for you.
I have a perspective on, I've followed along the pro-life movement through the years, pro-life meaning against abortion.
And one of the things that is part of that is this idea of adoption and all that type of thing, which is on the face of it is all very good.
But I think there is some oversimplification and some pitfalls that are in there.
And I would like you to respond if you can.
And my question is this: that I have seen and I've read about and I've observed, there's, you know, there is an affinity that your natural born child has for the parent and vice versa.
And adoption should be a well-cared for thing.
And if we were in charge, it would be done right.
But I think it could be a little bit like a panacea to say, oh, well, you just put the baby up for adoption or adopting children.
Because the thing is, when you have a child of your own flesh and blood, that child is you.
That child has your propensities and perhaps strengths and weaknesses in various mixes.
And there is an affinity that a natural parent has for their natural child that I think that the adoptive parent and child will not have.
You're talking about the moral hazard, Sam, of adoption being an option for mothers who might otherwise just keep their kids, even if it's a very sub-ideal situation.
Well, yeah, that's the should of it is: well, you know, we may not be able to, right?
Sometimes children have to be up for adoption, and sometimes adoption is really the best thing.
But better than that than abortion, for sure.
Yeah, but I'm just saying that people may not realize that, you know, we're not tabula rasa here.
You inherit your characteristics from your parents.
And lest anybody think that adoption might be an easy way, I think that there is a challenge there.
And maybe Nate can respond about that, like how well you can connect to foster parents.
Did you feel that they didn't understand you or you didn't understand them?
Or do you have a perspective on what I'm suggesting here?
Yeah, I mean, you know, it doesn't matter.
All of my qualms I would have with a system, I'm never going to advocate for women murdering their babies.
That's like a full-stop thing.
I think ideally they would attempt to get married and raise that child themselves.
You know, there's definitely a different bond that can't be replicated between biological parents and their biological children.
And it just doesn't exist outside of that very specific scenario.
It can be, you know, I would like to believe it could be emulated to a certain degree of success, you know, with non-biological, non-biological children.
But, you know, it's not, and that's also, I wouldn't say that's the ideal, ideal situation.
You're right.
Nate, how'd you hear about Full House?
You know, it's a good question.
I think I ended up probably through a Twitter thread or something.
Honestly, I have no idea.
I stumble into a lot of different places and I don't know how I got there.
Sure.
Well, we're glad to have you aboard, buddy.
Glad you found us.
That is the only thing that makes me sad about the censorship is the lost ears, new connections, right?
You know, we've had a couple people reach out and say, hey, I was an OG listener from the fatherland and I just found you guys.
I feel like I missed out over the past two years or whatever.
So welcome aboard or welcome back aboard, guys.
Glad to have you.
Better late than never.
Nate, thank you so much.
Feel free to chime in as we shift over to the adoption side of things.
And very grateful for you opening up about your experiences.
And we salute you from all of us here for making it through and making a good life for yourself.
And more importantly, find that lady and get going.
Calem, thank you for your patience.
You're probably sitting there nervous and, oh, God, I'm next.
No, I'm joking, sir.
So, yeah, let's dig into your side.
The tried adoption and didn't work.
You already had three or so at the time.
Why did you guys even consider it?
Well, actually, that's backwards.
We started out the fertility path.
Okay.
And, you know, most people, if you go to your OBGYN, they say, try it the old-fashioned way for a year.
You know, my wife had been on birth control continuously for 15 years or something like that.
And they're like, it'll just take a little while.
And, you know, it's like reboot the system.
Yeah.
Yep.
Months clicked on.
And as you guys talked about a couple of weeks ago, fertility is like a, or fertility treatment's like a gauntlet.
And every stage is more invasive and more expensive.
You know, you kind of start out like, okay, let's make sure the timing is right.
And let's help this along.
And then you get to IUI, which the guest talked about two weeks ago.
So Franz or Hans or whatever.
Franz.
And then after that, you step up to IVF, where they take either your partner's eggs or an egg donor's eggs and mix your swimmers in there.
Of course, the very first thing that they do is test your swimmers, right?
And when you get those results, it's like a glorious day.
It's like, yes.
Those are my boys.
Those are my boys.
I'm resisting the Seinfeld reference, George Costanza.
I'm not going to go.
I'm not going to do it.
I'm not going to do it.
My boys work.
Yeah.
All right, I did.
Sorry.
So, yeah, we got the results back.
And that experience is kind of horrific.
You go to the clinic and the nurse leads you down the hallway to this dusky broom closet turned into a little spank room.
And it's like sweat coming off the walls and it's got this stink.
And it's like, okay, you got five minutes.
You're looking up at God and you're like, God, I'm trying to do the right thing here, but this sort of feels like Times Square, 1972.
This is going to be the saddest, the saddest fapp of all times right here.
I'm crying the whole time.
So we're rubbing one out for the team.
Yes, for the team.
You know, you can, the funny thing is, in the waiting room of the fertility clinic, you see the guys sitting there with their heads kind of hanging down low, and they got the little brown paper bag.
You know, you know what's going on.
So anyway, we went through all that and we had gone through, I think, three or four rounds of IVF.
So, you know, we went through the IUI, we went through the times cycles and, you know, tested the swimmers.
They all came back great.
And even if you're swimmers, you've got like a bunch of half-wits that swim in circles, you know, they can work with that.
You know, being an embryologist, they can take them and physically inject them into the cell, the eggs.
It's pretty amazing what they can do.
And we had had several failed IVFs, and that was quite a shock to us because you hear about fertility treatment and you think, okay, this is the panacea.
This works for everybody.
Well, it didn't work for us.
And you guys had waited probably longer than you wished.
Well, that's trying, right?
That is the right way there.
No, so my conspiracy theory was because my wife had been on birth control for so long and hadn't had a period in 15 years.
But, you know, all the doctors are saying, well, you guys were older.
And, you know, we started this process.
She was in her mid-30s or early 30s.
And, you know, your odds really, really go down, you know, as the eggs get older.
And, you know, swimmers are pretty good.
They're pretty good.
You know, it doesn't matter if you're 50, you're 60.
You know, they can make babies out of those.
It's the eggs that really, you know, it's kind of like women.
No, the eggs are a lot like women.
They're complicated.
You know, they're sensitive and they're a little more difficult.
And then swimmers are just, they're just like a thermostat.
You know, they're just, I'm going this direction as hard as I can.
That's all I know.
You've given a lot of thought to the metaphors on the reproductive system.
I like it.
Yeah.
So we got pulled into the office of one of the doctors and who, you know, I hadn't thought about it until two weeks ago.
He mentioned how many Jews were in this business.
And I thought about it.
I was like, oh, crap, that guy, he was Jewish.
And he basically gives the speech and says, you guys, you should look at adoption and give up trying because it's just not going to happen.
Even though it's what they called what we have is unexplained infertility, which basically means that the doctors, everything looks fine.
The embryos look good.
The eggs look good.
The sperm looks good.
They don't understand.
You're just not making babies.
So he said, you guys should try adoption.
So that's what led us down the adoption path.
Sure.
And I was thinking that the clinic had turned us on to this agency.
But, you know, I asked my wife about it the other day.
She said, no, she thinks that she just found this place somehow.
So again, a disclaimer, this is anecdotal, but it was pretty traumatic talking to these people.
And it was a lady.
I use that word very generously, lady.
It was more like a woman.
And in hindsight, I think she probably was every single time.
You know, we got a speech about, well, you guys are, you're looking for a baby.
And that's difficult to do.
And the fact that you're looking for a white baby, that's really kind of racist.
And you really should consider a non-white baby because, you know, you can get a non-white baby within a matter of weeks to months.
Yes.
Blue light special.
Yeah.
And if you want a white baby, well, that's probably going to be like 15 months, maybe two years.
And how long ago was this?
This was about 10 years ago.
Okay.
So things may have changed.
Probably worse now.
I doubt it.
Probably worse.
And there's some other aspects of the adoption process.
One, it's extremely expensive.
And, you know, because it's so controlled and so regulated, you have these agencies that, you know, you pay them a ton of money and it's not going to the birth mother.
Yeah, it's their admin take, right?
And the real perverse thing was, you know, they were like, well, if you, if you want a baby baby, like a newborn, well, you know, we've got this deal where you can sponsor a mother and basically pay all of her pregnancy expenses, her medical expenses, her per diems and all this stuff.
And, you know, and then she gives birth and she can still back out.
She can change her mind.
She has like several days after giving birth to change her mind and decide to keep the baby.
And oh, by the way, pretty much every single one of these women that we have is on hard drugs and alcohol and cigarettes.
And, you know, you could be there at the hospital with them giving birth and, you know, they're in labor and they go out the back door to go do a line.
And you're on, yeah.
So you sponsored their habit probably while they're pregnant, which is messing up the baby you want to adopt.
And then at the end of it all, the mother could still decide to keep it, right?
Exactly.
And you're out and you're out 25 grand and there was no recourse.
And so I was just like, no way, no how.
And it got pretty dark there.
I mean, pretty grim.
And my wife even, I think at one point she was like, well, you know, we'll just, we'll split up and you can find another woman that you can have kids with.
Oh, man.
It was, it was pretty tough.
And luckily, the clinic that the fertility clinic had a Gentile doctor.
And real quick, Caleb, not to cut you off.
So at that point in the adoption process, when you realize what a high risk that was, that was when you said we're not going down that route.
Yep.
Well, just and I didn't get into the home study stuff where, you know, if you want to adopt, you have to do a home study, which basically a social worker comes in and, you know, they're looking at the books on your bookshelves and they're going through everything.
And the sad thing is, you know, like if you've got a book by dear uncle on your shelf, you know, that's going to be a red flag.
Now, you can be very homosexual or a trouble or whatever you call it.
And that's okay, but you better not have burning souls on your bookshelf.
Yeah, that's what my buddy said was, you know, I really want to adopt or we're seriously considering it.
But given my worldview, you know, that's a risk.
I mean, it's a risk to get rejected upfront, literally one book on the bookshelf.
Or what if you, you know, you're having a candid conversation with your wife and the adoptee hears it and goes and says, oh, my adoptive parents are racists or aren't particularly fond of Jews, right?
Another risk for people like us to adopt.
Yep.
So the Gentile doctor said, well, let's talk.
So we sat down with him and he said, you know what?
I don't want to give up yet.
If you guys are still in it, I'm still in it.
I'm willing to work with you guys.
You know, of course, money's green, right?
And fertility treatments are not cheap.
You know, all in, I think we probably, it was probably 125 grand if I had to throw a number out there.
Not out of pocket, though.
Probably about 100 grand out of pocket.
Wow.
But, you know, you don't.
Get your kids before they go to sleep.
Well, they're probably asleep already tonight.
No, it was expensive babies, buddy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
You haven't heard the rest of the story.
Sorry.
You know, you don't go into it thinking, I'm going to spend 100 grand, right?
It's like I said, everything's very incremental.
It's like, oh, we're going to do this IUI and it's a couple grand.
Oh, okay, that failed.
Let's do another IUI.
That's a couple grand.
And then, okay, well, let's do this IVF.
Okay, that's, you know, 20 grand.
Okay, well, that failed.
Well, let's do another cycle.
And that's, okay, well, it's 15 grand because you already, you know, you have some embryos.
So it's a frozen cycle.
So it's a little bit cheaper.
Okay, okay, okay, fine.
But anyway, it just adds up.
So we got back in there.
And one of the other things that was going on during all this is my wife was, she joined a fertility group or an infertility group.
And that actually was really helpful for her.
She was taking a lot worse than I was because, you know, hey, I had my good score on my little swimmers.
So I think deep down in my, you know, the back of my mind, I was like, well, you know, worse comes to worse.
I can go knock somebody else up.
That's no problem.
So, but anyway, through the fertility group, we got to meet a lot of couples.
And one of the biggest white pills of, you know, looking back on it 10 years later is I think of the like 12 or 15 people in this fertility group, I think all but one ended up with kids.
So now several of them adopted.
But I think just about all of them got pregnant either through surprise natural cycle or IVF or fertility treatments, whatever.
But it's just a matter of time and not giving up.
Which, yeah, that's interesting because when you wrote into the show, I mean, one of the things we've said is that we know for sure couples have said that when after they stopped, quote unquote, trying, beating themselves up and two a days and all the rest of it cycles, then it happened.
But you politely reproached us and was like, you do not want to counsel people to just lie back and think of the white race.
To be proactive.
You know, for a couple, like we went through it and it was a multi-year, very painful, very difficult process.
And knowing other people who are going through the same thing, it's like everybody agreed to like one of the most insulting things you could say to a couple doing this is like, oh, you just need to relax.
Sure.
It's like, it's like, look, we're out.
I'm relaxed, GD.
No, I'm going to make sure.
It's like, we're out 50 grand.
You know, we've gone through all this stuff and month after month after month.
She's telling me to relax.
The funny thing was, so after the show a couple of weeks ago, I told my wife, I was like, hey, you know, did you ever think about stopping gluten?
There you go.
Yeah.
She just like, you know, gave me the look.
So yeah.
Bless her, by the way, for, I mean, first for saying, well, you know, Caleb, you can always go, you know, try another, try another mate, but also for being there and being persevering and going through with it.
But yeah, let us know how you overcame it.
So we, the, the Gentile doctor hooked us up and got us knocked up.
Now, 10 years ago, they would put in multiple embryos.
And nowadays, they, they really don't.
They really shy away from that because so many times you have a multiple pregnancy, two.
And I know one poor sap who they put in three and his wife got pregnant with triplets.
Sure.
And they had to, they decided, they made a decision.
I couldn't do it, but they decided to do a selective reduction, which is basically an abortion.
They go in and they, you know, some doctor, I don't know how they, you know, well, they, I can tell you how they choose.
They choose the smallest one.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's not roll of the dice.
Yeah.
And, you know, I can tell you, um, we ended up with twins and they were born premature and it was very, very difficult pregnancy.
It was a difficult time and the NICU afterwards.
And, you know, one of them was born really small, two and a half pounds.
And I can, I can tell you that today, she is just a freaking dynamo.
Just brilliant, beautiful, just amazing, whip smart.
And I think about the guy that decided to do the selective reduction and they, you know, they killed the smallest one.
He's missing out on arbitrarily.
And I think about my little one.
I called her my peanut because, you know, two and a half pounds.
And she is just strong and healthy and just amazing.
I'm just so blessed.
I'm all smiles here, Caleb.
That's beautiful.
Great story.
So you had twins and then you went on to have more.
Did you do IVF with the implantation with the others too?
Yep.
Still with IVF because we've pretty much now, the doctors say, well, don't do unprotected sex because a lot of people, they'll go through fertility problems and they'll have a baby.
And then all of a sudden their problems are fixed.
And we know multiple couples that have experienced that.
But we've been.
Why would they tell you not to do that if They want the business to come back.
Exactly.
Well, they don't want an unexpected or heaven forbid.
An unplanned worst.
So they say, well, you better do protection.
Well, we've been, you know, raw-dogging it.
At a point.
Go get it, Tigers.
Sam just gave the white power salute there.
Yeah.
So, yeah, and it has not happened naturally.
So I don't know what's going on, but it could just be age or what.
Like I said, we're not spring chickens, but we're still trying, man.
You know, I'm like, nut up, nut up or shut up.
One of the biggest white pills for me was going up and visiting my great, great, great, great, something like that grandfather's grave.
And this is, I guess, early 1800s, mid-1800s.
And this dude was banging them out, you know?
And I think this was kind of like Mother Nature's, Mother's Nature's way of keeping marriages happy is, you know, pretty, you know, probably every third pregnancy resulted in death of the mother.
So this guy's surrounded by, you know, women.
And it's like, this guy had like three wives or four wives.
And he's like making kids with these women.
It's like, yeah, yeah, I'm getting in there.
Whatever.
What was your motivation to keep going?
I mean, because it's expensive.
It's invasive, obviously.
It's risky.
Why didn't you just stop with two?
Yeah.
Were you trying to save the white race or were you just like, these kids are so beautiful?
Let's have more.
What was going through your minds, both of you?
So 10 years ago, I wasn't as racially conscious as I am now.
And it was just kind of like, well, we got two.
And twins, raising twins and certainly premature twins, it's probably four times as hard as a singleton.
Sure.
Having had both now.
But for some reason, we kept the embryos.
We kept them in storage, kept them in the freezer.
And not literally our freezer, you know, at the clinic.
All right, macabre.
That's the opposite of Kermit Gosnell, right?
Yeah, you're keeping future life.
Sorry, that's too grim.
And, you know, the alternative is, you know, they say, well, you've got these embryos.
You can donate them.
And when you say donate, that's in quotes because you're basically turning them over to the clinic who can then basically sell them, you know, to science or for to future couples.
Exactly.
Science is the thing that really bugged me.
And the other thing is, you know, you could specify, like, if you knew a couple and I kind of wanted to donate them to another couple.
And my wife was just kind of, she was kind of weirded out by that.
She didn't want little mini-mis running around.
And I wasn't comfortable with that.
And I wasn't comfortable with destroying them.
That's one option.
And so we kept them on the freezer.
And, you know, I'm paying like 500 bucks a year for this embryo storage.
And finally, after a few years, I'm just like, you know what?
What the hell are we doing paying for this storage?
Let's get back in there.
Yeah.
And she's like, okay.
So there wasn't any sales pitch necessary.
She's just like, okay, let's do it.
Awesome.
And we've had success and we've also had failures again with the IVF.
Shut up or shut up.
It's my motto.
Literally, yeah.
Let me ask you a tough one here with no insult meant.
In the past, I have thought, I don't know if I've spoken about it, that if couples can't conceive naturally, then that is nature's way of saying it wasn't meant to be.
Now, obviously, your kids are beautiful and stuff like that, but wax on that a little bit, if you would, that using science as opposed to the old-fashioned way.
Right.
No, I know Skull, I think, has said the same thing.
And, you know, part of me agrees.
I understand that.
And I get it.
And in fact, I was kind of there at one point after we had tried and failed and IVF had failed.
And I was kind of like, well, maybe this is Mother Nature's way of saying maybe we shouldn't be having kids.
Right.
So I get it.
But no regrets.
No regrets.
I mean, we wasted so many years.
We chacked up for a lot of years.
We finally got married.
And, you know, we spent so much time racing cars, doing athletics, playing sports.
And, you know, once you have children, it really makes you see just how vapid and pointless all that stuff is.
It's just empty waste of time, is all that stuff is.
And a complete 180.
Life before kids and life after kids is a complete 180.
It is extraordinarily challenging to make that shift, but it's also extraordinarily rewarding.
If you think seeing the world and getting a new car and having a fat bank account gives you dopamine hits, you ain't see nothing until you're holding your firstborn or your firstborn twins or getting that daddy's home when you come in through the front door after a long day of work.
Yeah.
So one of my favorite stories, the little peanut that was born at two and a half pounds when she was born, she had a scowl on her face.
I mean, seriously, it was like a scowl.
And I was like my son this morning.
He didn't want to wake up and go to school.
He's like, I'm not ready yet.
That's what she was communicating.
It was just like, holy moly, this, you know, this is like an angry face.
And within probably six hours or so of them being born, the nurses are like, okay, you got to come back here and you got to do this kangaroo thing, right?
It's really important with preemies to get the skin on skin contact.
Sure.
And so because my wife was, she was in recovery from the C-section, you know, I'm back there by myself and I've got these little twins, you know, these tiny little things on my chest.
And the nurse snapped a picture and my little peanut has a smile on her face.
Oh, amazing.
I see that picture, man.
It just, you know, it touches me right in the feels every time.
Yeah, I might, I'm bordering on Misty here.
Go ahead, go ahead, Caleb.
Wonderful job to you and Nate.
I have one question for Sam, one more for Caleb.
Sam, you are a devout Christian.
You're also devoutly pro-white in equal measure.
I don't know if you've ever talked about the, I'm not going to call it Franken science, but using science to achieve fertility versus God would will it if he meant it to be so.
Well, I never ran into that problem for myself.
So I guess you are just asking me like in theory.
Yeah, exactly.
No, no, I'm in favor of anything as long as it is not touching on this question, which he said about the when you have the embryos and then they're going to destroy them or give them away to whomever and things like that.
I would say that morality does touch on it there.
Sure.
But I think there's a lot of good aspects to the different therapies.
So it really depends on each.
But yes, definitely once the egg is fertilized and conception has occurred, then there's no difference.
That's a human being that's growing from conception till natural death.
Yeah.
No, I totally agree.
But like he said, you know, you start to get philosophical, people who have problems and things.
Maybe I'm not meant to have kids, all this type of thing.
You know, our lives really are like a mystery.
And, you know, with all my big brood of kids when they were little, we'd be driving in the 12-passenger van all together.
And, you know, some accident could have happened.
We could have all been wiped out right then and there.
And, you know, like, what is what is the value of our lives, of anyone's lives, of having children or not?
You know, it's, it's what you do with your life that counts.
And whether you're a child or somebody who dies in early life or lives to a ripe old age, you can, you can, your, your life can be of tremendous value to the, to the world and to our race.
Yeah.
Just like they say, no, no kid or no grownup ever said, oh, I wish I were never born, at least not seriously, I'm sure.
No, no kid ever said, oh, I really wish my parents didn't go to the fertility clinic for a little extra help in having me.
And parents never said, oh, I wish we had five kids, I wish we had four or something.
Nobody ever said that.
Or somebody who has a bunch of brothers and sisters, they don't say, ah, I wish I was an only child.
Yep.
No one says that.
And I'll be honest, there were times when my wife and I, with our very difficult original potato, looked at each other like, oh, boy, what did we do?
And he is so handsome and cute and sweet and smart now that I kick myself in the ass for ever even like cracking the door to thinking that.
So take that one to heart, dear listener.
Well, the thing is, those, yeah, if you are having young children, you are going to have some hard times.
I guarantee you.
If nothing else, the sleep deprivation and things like that, some of those things can really get to you.
But those times don't last.
Right.
That's right.
Caleb, the other, before we go to the break, you mentioned that you know couples who had positive, successful adoption experiences.
If you would briefly, you know, share that to go out on a high note.
Oh, sure.
Or even an even higher note.
Excuse me.
Yeah.
So, you know, we were pretty down on adoption.
And through the fertility group, we got to meet multiple couples.
And several of the couples had arrangements, I guess, through their churches.
Now, we were kind of agnostic and not really affiliated with any church.
So we didn't have that connection.
But multiple couples we know have gone through the adoption experience.
And yes, it is a hassle.
And yes, it is expensive, but they have ended up with just beautiful, great kids.
And it has totally changed my outlook on adoption.
You know, I was 10 years ago, I'd be like, no way in hell.
But seeing these people go through it and what they've ended up with, these great, great kids.
Sure.
And some of them, even older, did the foster route.
Another couple we knew did the foster route and adopted a ended up adopting.
It was a brother and sister.
And, you know, it's a great, great parents.
And those kids are the most well-behaved, nicest, smartest little kids.
So it's totally changed my outlook on foster care and adoption and all that.
So miracles happen from conception to, yeah, wonderful foster care and adoption stories, too.
So never despair.
Nate, while you were sitting there, did anything else come to you from your experiences?
Anything else before we go to the break?
No, it's just a wonderful story.
Yeah.
It's good to hear that.
Absolutely.
All right then.
Well, for the break this week, then, Mr. Producer, this one goes out to all those white kids out there who, through no fault of their own, are pining away for either their old home or their new forever home.
And since Sam has taken his shine to EDM or Electronica, as I always call it, this one is called Forever, and it's bifarious.
right back.
I'm aware of it.
I'm a little bit.
I'm a little bit warmer.
I'm a young man.
I'm a little bit.
84 of Full House.
I hope you enjoyed that definite gear shift from last week's show.
If you missed that one with Thomas Sewell from Down Under, it was a barn burner.
One of our better shows, if I could be so bold, and with no insult to any of our 83 other wonderful guests or just us on the birth panel kicking it here.
But we were talking during the break about how nice it is to shift gears and go right back into our bread and butter, which is, of course, fatherhood and parenting and conception and doing the best that we can by our people, both in a paternal way.
And sometimes we're going to do shows where it's politics and things like that.
And if you don't like it, no apologies.
We're going to keep doing it.
But in all seriousness, update here from Coach's Comfy Corner.
I am tragically back in the shed tonight recording the show, The Great Appalachian Shed.
Not because I'm in trouble.
It's not the cuck shed, but go figure during the winter.
I'm out there freezing my balls off in the gazebo.
And tonight I was out there.
It's warm.
It's a little bit humid, but the damn peepers, the frogs were so noisy that the scoundrel Mr. Producer said that the audio was too bad.
It was too distracting with all those peep, peep, peeps in the background.
So I'm here in my reservoir dogs, still ongoing potato smasher shed renovation.
Anyway, little bit of background for you there, dear listener.
And also, I have been doing the bit.
I have been intermittent fasting seriously, going 231, so 23 hours fasting with one hour to gorge myself down four pounds in three days.
And I'm using the Fastic app, F-A-S-T-I-C.
It's free, no registration required.
I've been fasting for years as the easiest, most straightforward way to cut pounds when I need to, going into vanity season, the summer, of course.
But this thing is pretty slick.
You can just plug in your weight, your height, gives you the BMI, and you just set objectives for yourself.
And you're like, ah, okay, that little ticker is going through from insulin production to fat burning to ketones to autofaggy when your body starts feeding on its old cells.
So if you are not a gym rat and you don't like running and you need to lose pounds, try fasting.
Our own Nathaniel Scott has talked about that on Navigating the Collapse, which we have in store for you this week.
And also, I did the bit.
Sorry, being a little self-indulgent here at the top of the second half.
Had these two other Gabby guts on, giving them all the airtime.
No, seriously, Calem and Nate are still with us, did a great job.
But I got out today after having prepped my raised beds around the property and planted the early spring seedlings here in zone six.
Everything from Swiss chard to onions to radishes.
Of course, nobody likes radishes except for me.
So that's like my own little garden snack there.
So next week or the following week, we're going to have on a Master Gardener.
But if you can't wait that long, check out our episode 42, which is available on Telegram for sure, t.me/slash fullhouse shows.
That was our springtime gardening tips episode that we did last year.
And we will refresh that this year because I do believe that that is not just enjoyable and natural to get your, I didn't use gardening gloves.
I wanted to get my hands right there in the soil, put those seeds in there.
It's fun.
It's rewarding.
It's a good activity with the kids.
And what's better than growing your own food and saving on money at the grocery store.
Okay.
With that, put that paper out of the way.
We're flying casual here tonight in the second half.
And let us not ever forget our new white life.
We're a little bit backed up because we didn't do it last week with Tom Sewell.
Reject Degeneracy wrote in to share.
He said, Hello, brothers.
Just wanted to announce my wife and I are having our third child, third daughter.
Can you throw out a prayer request for me?
Baby girl came at 3 o'clock on Friday.
She was 8 pounds, 1 ounces.
She had a little trouble breathing and had to go to a nickel about an hour away.
I flew like the wind and got there a little before the ambulance.
Everything's going a lot better since Friday, and she's improving steadily every day.
Reject degeneracy to you and your wife.
You got it.
Prayers coming your way.
Trust she's doing well and congratulations on your third.
Our impending new white life correspondent from about two weeks ago gave us an update.
He told us that, you know, he was at Baby DEF CON 2.
It was imminent.
And he says, beautiful baby boy, nearly lost my wife.
It was a scary time, a roller coaster.
We're still not totally out of the woods yet, but it's looking better as time progresses.
So way to go, buddy.
I don't think he wanted his name or his sock announced, but happy for you.
And yeah, it can be touch and go sometimes.
And yeah, let us know.
Hopefully, wifey's doing okay.
Also, baby D is due in November.
We just found out a week ago.
I know it's super early, but it's our first, and I'm super excited.
I've been waiting for this moment since I was 14.
Congratulations to Baby D in utero and his or her two wonderful parents.
Good luck, guys.
And finally, official Full House fan number two, Whitey, said that we are killing it lately.
He's been listening since episode one or two.
If you recall, old Whitey McGee proposed to his girlfriend and gave a little bit of credit to Full House for encouraging him to make that move.
So thank you, Whitey.
You are almost as cool as our still number one official fan, Darendell, up there in Saskatchewan.
So, you know.
Hell, Whitey.
Hell Durandle.
We love you guys.
Seriously.
Yeah.
They've been with us from the beginning.
We love all our listeners, regardless of when they started.
And finally, thank you to our dear friend, Andre.
He was the one who said, hey, coach, why don't you invite, I don't know if he has a, he doesn't have a Minnesota accent.
Hey, coach, why don't you invite Thomas Sewell on the show?
I said, you know what, Andre?
That's a brilliant idea I just came up with.
And Tom said yes right away.
But that was all Andre's idea.
Thank you.
Sometimes we got street cred now.
We've had guests from Collett in Britain to Sewell down under.
And yeah, if you, dear listener, have a recommendation for somebody to have on.
Somebody said we need to have on Handsome Horse.
I meant to go and check out his videos.
The writer Jim Foster said that Handsome Horse does some radically red-pilling videos on Odyssey.
We consider that.
Carl Thornburn's coming up on Bitcoin, The Gardener, and more other stuff.
But anyway, let us know.
And I think with that, I can shut up and move on to a very special letter that we got from an audience member, and it's from a grandmother.
So this is the first that we knew of, you know, someone in an older generation on the female side listening.
We know that we have a lot of younger or middle-aged moms listening.
It says, hi.
I'm a grandma raising my 12-year-old granddaughter.
On your most recent show, you talked about daughters growing up and moving out.
What about daughters getting married right after high school?
This is what I prefer for my grandchild, especially because I want to know she'll be taken care of and have a loving family after I'm gone.
Not that I plan on going anywhere anytime soon.
I'm only 67 and healthy.
But how could I, quote unquote, arrange a meeting with someone who's trustworthy, like family friends, would be a good choice.
I don't know others who think like me, but especially who'd agree to an arranged marriage.
She attends a conservative school, but we don't attend church regularly.
So our options for meeting someone are slim.
She's not into going to college so much, maybe to become a vet technician or something similar, and that's fine with me.
I'd like her to have a more definite direction than just what I tell her about traditional marriage and family.
My life is not an example for her to follow.
I adopted her because her parents, my son, are drug addicts, and my son just died in September from an overdose.
She doesn't know her mother.
Thank you for any input you have, and I enjoy your shows.
I have since corresponded with this woman sincerely and heartfeltly.
Of course, we salute you, ma'am, for doing the right thing by your precious granddaughter.
Housekeeping out of the way.
Obviously, we are not and cannot entertain arranging a marriage for a 12-year-old, but we know where you're going, you know, where you're going with that and looking out and trying to ensure that she ends up with a good man when she's of age and not just leaving it to the fates to take her wherever the sick society may take her.
But I absolutely think that you're going in the right direction.
So we're going to Sam and then Caleb, our two elder statesmen on this show, and see what they think about this question in particular.
She's looking for help in making sure that this precious girl is taken care of, essentially.
Yeah, Coach, you know, one thing that will help things along in the right way is maybe she can start to look for a man as this young lady gets to be towards legal age.
Look for a man that's maybe a bit older, not a peer, but maybe somebody who's that five to ten years older and somebody who will be the type of person to take care of this young girl.
You know, I think sometimes in marriages, it helps when there's a few years' difference between the man and the woman, and the woman can naturally look up to the older man with a little bit of respect.
And the older man might look upon the little bit younger woman as someone that he needs to look out for and to have her best interests at heart.
Now, sometimes there's the man that is maybe not so far away in age and might have that disposition.
That's fine too.
But I'm just saying that's what you got to be on the lookout for.
And, you know, sadly in this society, it just seems like there's women that need a good man, but there's seems like there's not enough good men to have that kind of a selfless ideal, somebody who believes in marriage and family even more than he believes in his own marriage and family, if you understand what I mean.
As men, we have to be devoted to the very idea of marriage and not just our own marriage per se, because you have ups and downs in marriage and families and everything, but you must love the idea of marriage and family above all things.
Yeah, and I don't know if she is married or still married, but she has to, our dear listener has to think of what if the worst happens and she passes before dear granddaughter is of age, then she might, worst case, you know, be facing a situation like our very own Nate on the show here is and might go into foster care.
So I would say that that, don't put the cart before the horse, you know, focus on making sure that there's somebody she can go to if the worst thing happens.
And then keep it in the middle of the day, focus on the next five and six and seven years, not just 10 and 20 years from now.
And get involved with our guys.
This wonderful lady is a listener of the show.
God bless her.
And, you know, eventually, getting in touch with more of our people, you will also find good guys that want family and wives, things like that.
We did broach that.
Possibly IRL help, not anything to do with the granddaughter, but just helping her out.
And remember, the other thing, too, is even if she is sweet as sugar and innocent at 12 years old, as I'm sure she is, I was a saint up until 14 or maybe 15.
And then it was like a light switch flipped in my brain.
I was like, I'm going to be rebellious.
I'm going to try cigarettes and go out to the woods and drink.
Yeah, this young lady has a lot of growing up to do, you know, and so it's hard to try to map out the person's future when that personality is yet to come to maturation.
But we totally support helping our kids meet other, our kids, and leading those horses to water.
You can't force them to drink.
I mean, you know, Rusty Rockwell's daughter and my youngest are, of course, already betrothed.
I joke, but don't joke.
But, you know, that sort of thing.
We certainly support it when the age is right.
Sorry, Caleb, sort of gab there, but have at it if you have any responses.
No, I think you guys have some great advice.
And I would say that this girl is 12.
She doesn't need a husband.
She needs a father.
And that's going to be, she's entering that phase of her life where it's critical.
You know, I don't know if listener has a husband still or, you know, I know it sounds kind of dangerous, but if there's an uncle, somebody who, you know, is honorable, trustworthy, you know, maybe has daughters of his own and can be kind of a guiding force in her life.
Exactly.
And I think that's much more important because the 12-year-old is much more likely to make good decisions as she gets older.
Exactly.
Having a basis.
And have to point out the tragic elephant in the room, which is obviously we have to dance around this and couch our words when in a healthy, virtuous society, we'd be like, you know, yes, we want to help that dear granddaughter become a healthy, normal, prosperous lady.
But because of the sick world we live in, everybody's nervous about like, oh, you know, what if it's a trap?
Or what if she accuses you of something inappropriate or whatever because of the news and because of Jews and because there are a lot of sick people out there, which we are the antithesis of truly and rhetoric as well.
So keep in touch, ma'am.
We are heartbroken for the loss of your son.
So many people, our friends, just the other day, listener to the show and our guys said, yep, just got word that another one of my friends that I grew up with went to high school with OD.
And in these situations, you have to assume it's opiates or opiates provided by the Jewish Sackler family, who are now getting back in the racket after bankruptcy and escaping much more than some financial hits and a slap on the wrist to remaking themselves as addiction cures.
And yeah, they created the poison.
They dished the poison.
They knew what they were doing primarily to white America.
They called it a blizzard.
They knew that we were going to get hooked on that stuff.
And now they're going to be trying to make money out of bankruptcy, getting people off the addictions that they created.
There's that.
And then, of course, the fentanyl is mostly coming from south of the border and killing people via even worse heroin than what used to go around.
So sick times.
And Uncle Joe doddering Uncle Joe.
I did take the time while I was gardening today and planting those seeds to listen to this.
He is more senile in the first year of his presidency, even before he became president than Reagan was.
I vaguely remember Reagan in 88 speeches.
Yeah, you could tell.
So what a sick thing.
And he's putting Kamala in charge of controlling the southern border.
But what he said in his presser today, there is nothing about stopping the invasion or stopping the flow or turning them back.
It's all about how they can better accommodate them and house them better and not have the cages and ship them into hotels and military bases and stuff like that instead of just saying, no.
You know, we thought Trump was that politician, the guy who would call a spade a spade and just say, no, you can't come in.
It's that simple.
Do that and they'll stop coming.
Also, I want to point out just a brief deviation into politics here, just because I'm so pissed off listening to this fool.
The absolute farce of Trump's wall claims and some of the MAGA people.
Oh, he built this many 100 miles of wall and double-sided fencing, all that stuff.
Yeah, well, if he built a wall, this wouldn't be an issue.
They couldn't get in.
Now, granted, they're coming to the border crossings and all that stuff, but further testimony to the fact that his policy things were brief, half-assed, and ephemeral, easily turned back by this new regime.
We always call governments we don't like a regime.
So, yeah.
He made a gait for ours too.
Yeah.
A big, beautiful, half-assed, partial recreation of the fence.
All right.
I didn't plan on doing that, but yeah, the presser was just today.
We got another one, tough one, rough one, important one from a listener.
And I'm not going to give his name or his sock.
Here we go.
Recently, my wife informed me that one of my sons is dating a black girl.
I was wondering if you guys could delve into this topic.
I'd appreciate your advice.
Thanks.
I asked, how old is he?
And have you talked to him about it yet?
Answer, he's early 20s.
My wife is not going to be much help in this regard.
So I'm planning on talking to him in the near future once I figure out how to approach the subject on a rational level and not let my emotions take over.
Good instincts for the most part.
I've been talking a lot here, so I'll let you guys kick around on this, but I definitely have a strong-winded response to.
Well, just like anything, you got to know the son.
You got to understand what's driving this and what kind of person is he.
Some people you can come on very strong and raise your voice and say things in a forceful way, and that will get across the idea.
Other persons, you have to try to reason with them and be logical.
I have been in a similar situation, not exactly that, but I had a son that was kind of seeing somebody of a girl of questionable background.
And I just, you know, very calmly said, you know, what are you doing?
This is, you know, think about where this goes and what this leads to.
And, you know, just giving some of the very basic, sincerely expressed sentiments that we would know.
And that was very effective.
But so I think, yeah, you got to have that heart to heart.
You got to say it like you mean it and look the person in the eye.
And there's a good chance that you will reach him with your concern.
Sure.
Calem, how about it?
Yeah, you know, I was out at Target one time and this black lady came up to me and said that she wanted to be colonized by me.
I did not see that coming.
Feather for your bonnet.
Yeah.
So, but anyway, unfortunately for her, by that time.
You made that up.
You made that up.
That didn't happen.
All right.
You know, I'd already, you know, familiarized myself with the FBI crime stats and the bell curve.
So I think I would probably approach this in a logical standpoint.
You know, hey, you know, the point of dating is marriage.
The point of marriage is to have kids.
It's natural progression.
Are you going to have children with this woman?
You know, is that your intent?
If you're not intending to start a family with this woman, then you're just wasting time.
And if you are going to have kids, realize that IQ regresses to the mean.
And, you know, it's probably not going to be what you think it's going to be.
Facts and logic.
I'm going to go in a different direction from you old timers here.
Mr. Producer the other night said that coach never really deals in absolutes.
He always, you know, a little diplomatic about things.
And that's true because I do recognize nuance and there's usually not one absolute right answer, at least to the things that we talk about.
But I did respond to him in writing just because this is the danger zone.
He's a man.
If he's early 20s, he's either in college or out working.
And it depends on, I suspect this guy may have a temper and that's why he's like, I need to cool down first.
But my gut tells me to go hard on this one and say, hell no, you will not date this woman.
I will not have my son siring mulattoes.
If you continue to date with her, please do not contact me.
And maybe I don't have the stones if I were put in this situation, but this is, I'm being honest here.
I would go hard.
I would scare him.
I would do the facts and logic thing too, but I would let it rip and make an impression and summon all of your dad, father, Odin powers, whatever it may be, to scare him and let him know that this is, you're not joking around.
You are dead serious, that this is unacceptable.
You are risking, first off, what the hell is wrong with you?
And I know that you're running a risk of him, you know, doing the male.
My wife said this the other day.
Girls internalize criticism way more seriously, whereas boys rebel against it and say, Oh, yeah, well, screw you.
You know, I'll do, I'll do what you're telling me.
Screw, yeah, F you, I won't do what you tell me, but uh, that's that's that's my advice.
So, he's getting a little bit of uh all sides here.
Go ahead, Sam.
Well, that's like I was saying, you got to size up where this guy is.
Is is he with this negress?
Are they together, literally, like a couple, or is he dating, yeah, seeing, seeing, yeah.
So, so that might have something to do, but what you're saying should I suppose I would approach more in a sincere look, looking you in the eye, explaining, but what you're saying should be implied in it for sure.
That this, we're, you're, we're not going forward together with this this way.
And maybe if he's normally, if he's normally thoughtful, quiet dad, that's when he summons the wrath of Khan or whatever.
If he's normally a hothead, that's when you shift gears.
Hopefully, Junior doesn't listen, uh, but you know, because we're giving the game away, uh, but that's when you like Junior would be taken aback by quiet, serious, very eyes.
Right.
Yep.
You gotta, but I guess the thing that I would say is you gotta get around to saying it fully, saying the message fully with the reasons and not soft shoe it.
Yep.
Mr. Producer chimed in here too.
Uh, and I'll just uh read a summary of his wall text, but it is very good.
I said, I treat any son who's with a black girl very much the same as I would a daughter, although we agree largely that uh oil drilling is marginally less bad than coal burning for biological reasons.
You know, it's conquering versus being conquered by an alien tribe.
Uh, the goal of a union between man and woman is to have viable offspring in order for your genes to carry on in the world.
White genes are the rarest, most beautiful, and successful genes in the world.
They also happen to be recessive in most cases to those of non-whites.
Preservation of your genetic code is paramount.
It's hard to do that when you combine your genes with a non-white.
It's doubly hard if that combination results in offspring that almost always is unstable and confused when it comes to their ethnic and racial identity.
Something that's becoming more important, not less, as we move into the future.
Also, those things are ugly.
And I added on there that your kids with this girl will look like sideshow Bob, only browner and uglier and dumber.
So, you know, just sample from that.
Nate, you're not getting, you can't just skate here in the second half and listen to us.
Yeah, nobody rides for free, as one of our episodes was called.
Nate, did you ever have jungle fever?
Did you ever date a non-white?
You're younger.
And I'm joking, but and if you did, you can be candid about it.
You were as a younger guy, you were subjected to more intense propaganda through advertisements and all the rest of it, movies than we were.
Not jungle fever.
You know, I mean, curry fever mistakes.
Not that bad.
You know, I think a lot of that behavior is most likely.
I mean, you know, the father knows better than anyone, but I mean, a lot of that's probably driven out of some desire to rebel either against, you know, parents' rules or just what he might perceive as society's rules.
But I mean, you know, early 20s, that's gotten a little bit old for that.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I mean, well, so I mean, I had one non-white romp with a dot Indian when I was in college.
I'm not ashamed to admit that.
There was no, like, you know, she was pretty, and we were at a party.
You know, it wasn't like I was like, oh, yeah, let's do this subversive thing or let me think about all those interracial movies that I've seen, not porno movies, but you know what I mean, the propaganda.
It just happened, right?
And that, and that was that.
So I guess, yeah, these things maybe do happen, but dating is a different beast.
And that's, yeah, dating a black girl versus like a bad mistake at the end of a frat party or something is why I think this is a red alert situation for the emailer.
All right, but good, good luck there, Dad.
Let us know how it goes.
We'll keep you anonymous and update you.
We also got a very, very heartfelt email from a, well, I don't even want to say she's, yeah.
Tell you what, listener, if you, if you have something, long story short, she wrote in she needed advice and didn't want it read on the show.
And we did our best, all of us on the birth panel, to each individually give her advice.
So we're happy to do that.
We can't do it for everybody for obvious reasons.
But feel free if you got something that's not suitable for the show, but you need help in life.
That is what we are here for, not downloads and clout chasing like so many other people.
Nate, what are you doing for dating these days?
You said it's complicated.
We're going to probe a little bit here.
You got you juggling multiples or you're not sure if you're serious.
Let us know what it's like out there.
I meet a lot of people.
You know, it's so you're online.
You're online dating multiple people is that I'm reading between no.
So the difficulty for me is just bridging the gap between, you know, hanging out with someone in town and going on dates.
And, you know, like I live way out.
I work, you know, way out.
You know, it's kind of difficult for me to, you know, bridge the gap between, you know, when do you, when does it stop being just, you know, seeing someone and hanging out and going out on dates and, you know, actually something serious.
I haven't really quite figured that out yet.
All right.
You early 20s, later 20s?
Early 20s.
Okay.
And you have a smaller, if you're in a rural area, you got a smaller pool and bigger distances to overcome, but probably a better pool to shop from.
Definitely, yeah.
You know, compared to other places I've lived, definitely a better pool.
Sure thing.
You in good shape?
You're working out?
You're improving yourself?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, that's the thing is that, you know, I've never really had trouble getting dates or anything like that.
I just, I, you know, I've always had trouble maintaining relationships.
Right.
It's not hard to, you know, have like, you know, one night stand when you're like, you know, six foot four and you're relatively healthy, right?
But, you know, when you don't necessarily develop those social skills the same way.
You know.
Hmm.
Okay.
See, we're picking up there.
But yeah, the women are probably almost certainly, you know, of the same issue, right?
They have the easy to date, much harder to get serious and settle down.
Right.
All right.
Well, with that, we are two weeks overdue on navigating the collapse.
That is no fault of our own dear Nathaniel Scott.
He's got a winner in the pipeline here.
So, Mr. Producer, let it rip.
Welcome to Navigating the Collapse with your host, Nathaniel Scott.
In 1926, strongman Earl Lederman published a book titled Endurance.
In it, he stated, Every man should be able to save his own life.
If he is of the fat porpoise type, naturally he cannot do all, if any, of these things.
He has nobody to blame but himself.
and his way of living that has brought his body into its condition of obesity.
Lederman set forward five benchmarks that every man should reach in order to attain a well-rounded level of fitness.
These benchmarks are relative to your own weight and size and how well you can maneuver through your environment.
Here they are.
The first, swim at least a half mile.
Say you are out boating on a ferry or fishing when suddenly a situation erupts that forces you to abandon ship.
A half mile is a good distance to get you safely to shore in many circumstances.
At the very least, it should get you to another ship or keep you afloat until help arrives.
The second, run at top speed for 200 yards.
While the first is more of a test of endurance, the second is for explosive energy that can be required in many circumstances.
Top speed is different for everyone, but having the knowledge that you can chase someone or run away for a significant distance without keeling over is essential.
The third, jump over obstacles higher than your waist.
Jumping is an often overlooked but necessary skill.
It requires explosive energy in one smooth motion, as well as the balance to land on your feet.
I can guarantee a rabid pit bull can scramble up and over that ledge in no time flat, so if you want to take the extra time rolling yourself up and over, that's up to you.
Fourth, 15 to 20 pull-ups.
Suppose you had to lower yourself down a rope to escape a burning building.
You'll definitely want the grip and arm strength to do so.
The difficulty is directly proportional to your weight, so don't discount it.
And finally, at least 25 tricep dips.
This will also be proportionate to your weight, although it doesn't rely on grip strength as much.
A man should have a certain strength in his arms to push himself over things and throw a good punch.
If you cannot do these five things, you might want to get to work.
Lederman says, If he can accomplish these things, he need have no fear concerning the safety of his life, should he be forced into an emergency from which he alone may be able to save himself.
Such things never may happen, and let us hope they do not.
But what has happened always is possible to occur again, and in fact, always is happening to someone.
And now, Generalissimo Francisco Franco, excerpts from a speech to the Falanges Party Council, December 9th, 1942 For three years of war and for three years of what we wrongly called peace, we have had to struggle on in concerted endeavor.
No one will be astonished if now, when this phase may be considered overcome, we throw off whatever and whoever would like to deflect us from marching toward fulfillment of our movement.
On this depends the destiny of Spain and the preservation of her eternal values, the suppression of which would imply slavery and chaos.
On this path, we must be intransigent in exacting sacrifices from all for the benefit of our national unity, a guarantee of Spain's future.
We are actors in a new era in which we can have no truck with the mentality of the past.
Spain's way of thinking cannot go back to the 19th century, accursed by so many false conceptions.
It is necessary for Spaniards to abandon the old liberal prejudices and take a survey of Europe in order to analyze contemporary history.
We do not belong to a world of our own as distinct from Europe, even though we have our own characteristics and spiritual reserves.
All contemporary events show us that we are witnessing the end of one era and the beginnings of another.
That the liberal world is going down a victim to its own errors, and with it are disappearing commercial imperialism, financial capitalism, and mass unemployment.
The happiness promised by the French Revolution became nothing but barter business, competition, low wages, and mass insecurity.
During the last war, Russian demobilization led to a situation in which communism seized power and established a barbarian dictatorship of the proletariat.
A similar phenomenon manifested itself in Italy after the war.
But Mussolini's genius instilled all just and human elements interested in the Italian Revolution into the fascists' aims.
Mussolini wielded the two elements closely and united his own heart with the synthesis of the fascist revolution, a social urge and a national idea.
Later, Germany found a new solution for the popular yearnings in national socialism, which unites the national and social idea for the second time in Europe with the special peculiarities of race thirsting for international justice.
Those are not isolated movements, but rather aspects of one and the same general movement and mass rebellion throughout the world.
On its face, a new useful consciousness emerged, which reacts against the hypocrisy and inefficacy of the old systems.
What the masses of the people in England think is not different from what the German masses think, nor do the dissatisfied people of old Europe think differently from the disinherited in New America.
Liberal propaganda may distort these facts and hide the truth for a time, but in the end, truth will prevail.
In these days, our generations are not merely faced with territorial and political problems, but also with supreme issues of the existence of our faith, our civilization, and our culture, which are now at stake once more.
This makes our presence in the international sphere so very important.
We have called you together to carry our work to completion.
It is heralded by continuous triumphs of our state, magnificent work of our youth organizations, silent productive labor of our feminine section, and pious endeavors of our social institutions.
But our country demands more from us.
The essential task lies with the new national council.
It may well be that life will become more difficult.
Our paths are strewn with thorns, but there can be no flagging in pursuit of our ideals.
It is not enough to set our goal.
It must be pursued with constancy and sacrifice.
Fortitude, as well as goodwill, is needed.
When we have all this, the triumph will be complete, because we shall feel strong and secure.
We have the strength of our truth, backed by the reality of our power.
We promise a hard life, but a Spanish life worthy of our country and its destiny.
We do not work for ephemeral ends, but for a resplendent tomorrow.
Our army has in it the flower of youth.
Divine assistance clearly has shown itself to us.
With it, nothing and nobody shall vanquish us.
If we fought hard on our crusade, we would fight even harder if the new danger of a new war should threaten us.
We know that with us is life and without us is death.
Hell yeah.
Wow, those are good.
I know.
Those are so good.
I mean, where else are you going to hear something like that?
Not anywhere today, right?
Contrast that, speaking to the general population with soaring, intelligent rhetoric versus the childlike pablum we get dished out by empty heads, Biden and Trump included.
Both, yeah.
I was listening to the show the other day, and I go back and forth.
I listen to them a lot, and then I fall off.
Basically, it depends on my lawn mowing and driving schedule, which is the only time I can really focus.
And they were talking about very good.
I think it was Monday's show talking about happiness.
But then they mentioned that if you look at the analysis of U.S. presidential rhetoric speeches, that Nixon was the last one to speak to the American people as if they were adults rather than children.
We're in the humiliation phase of Zog.
Absolutely.
Yeah, Franco, I don't know.
Reading Hitler's War, it seemed that if Spain had gone all in, that could have been a very helpful material factor as opposed to just staying neutral and slightly helpful.
Although people make the argument that they were in no shape to do so, still recovering from the Civil War.
But at least he gave our old pal, Leon deGrill solace and a home until the end of his days.
Yeah, if you read accounts of that in the Civil War where the nationalists won, it is really harrowing.
I read the book The Last Crusade.
That is extremely moving.
I mean, the heroism and that of those people in that time was amazing.
Yeah, I read Mine Were of Trouble by Peter Kemp.
And to be honest, that's by Mystery Grove, I think, the publishing house was.
And I actually wasn't a huge fan.
It was a very narrow view of this Englishman's.
It was an amazing story, this guy who didn't speak Spanish, who went down when most of his countrymen were fighting for the side of the commies, essentially.
He went down to fight for the nationalists.
But I didn't get a real big picture Spanish Civil War view from that.
But did notice, you know, one of the fertility autistes on Twitter posted a picture of Spanish fertility rates.
And the only time post-World War II when they actually increased.
Now, granted, you got a little bit of a baby boom factor, but it was during Francoist Spain in all of its flower, I think, from the 50s into the 60s before he passed on.
So, yep, strong men, strong countries, big families, big countries, healthy societies.
Yep.
Thank you, Nathaniel Scott.
I wanted to go to Caleb, who is a wise dad, to share one life bit of wisdom from his over half a century on this earth to enlighten future fathers, existing fathers, grandmothers, everybody in the audience.
So I guess keeping with the theme of fertility and adoption, I wanted to, you know, you kind of put us on the spot.
That's right.
You know, the first thing that came to mind is a friend of mine, a work colleague.
He and his wife had one kid.
And talking to this guy, it just doesn't, you know, I'm like, hey, man, you're going to get back in there?
You're going to have some more?
And he's just like, oh, no, And the kid's healthy, you know, rambunctious, but, you know, and it, and it just, it breaks my heart.
Yeah.
That this guy, he's just, it's almost like he doesn't care about this kid or, or, you know, I don't know what struggles they're going through.
But, you know, with so many people who are dealing with the infertility and having a tough time with that, you know, my wisdom is don't give up.
The struggle is worth it.
When they finally do come, whether it's through adoption or fostering or through fertility treatments, it's so much more worth it.
I mean, it's just hard to put into words.
The fight and the struggle.
And, you know, I've often wondered, you know, God, you know, puts challenges in front of certain people.
And other people seem to just skate through life and never have a tough go at anything.
And, you know, is it punishment for those people that are challenged?
Or is it, you know, you're capable of dealing with a challenge.
And so, you know, he puts this thing in front of you.
So challenge makes us better.
And I don't think it's any purpose of life is to just be perpetually entertained all the way up till our dying day.
You know, struggle makes us stronger and deepens the meaning of our lives.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
When my life has been topsy-turvy or stressful, I've often thought, oh man, I sure wish, you know, just see somebody like working at the post office or whatever.
I'm like, I bet their life is simple and has no problems.
That sure would be nice.
And what really makes you feel better is when you get up in the morning and tackle things.
Whether, and DeGrel wrote about this, you can find greatness in being a good mother and homemaker.
You can find greatness on the battlefield.
You can find greatness in the office, believe it or not.
You can find greatness in creating content that maybe inspires people or moves them to become better.
You can find greatness in doing that damn project around the house or in the yard that you've been putting off.
If you want to be an overcomer, you've got to have something to overcome.
That's right.
Embrace the suck, embrace the challenges and the struggle.
Nate, young buck, you got to top Calem with your life wisdom there.
I don't know if I can.
I mean, you know, what some of y'all were saying earlier, I think, I mean, you know, one of the best things that has helped me through my life is, you know, looking at every situation as a lesson to be learned.
And I know this sounds cheesy, but if you just reframe your mindset as instead of, you know, things are happening to me, you reframe it as, you know, this is what I can learn from the situation that I'm in.
It helps you move past the woe is me stage a lot faster and, you know, it prepares you better for the future.
Amen, brother.
That's good advice.
Also, go lift.
There you go.
Can't go wrong.
Yep.
I promised the guys in the chat, I was like, all right, I'm going to do it.
I'm going to get under the steel or whatever the lingo is.
And I did a couple reps on the not the overhead press on the bench press.
Yeah, it was pretty embarrassing.
I won't give my, yeah, but yeah, I mean, keep doing it, get running.
I wanted to, I teased this two weeks ago, and it feels a little self-indulgent, but I double-checked with Junior.
He said, Yeah, dad, go ahead, share it.
He seemed like he had a little glint in his eye.
And my son, who's still in elementary school, wrote a little thing he put at the top.
He said, The genre is half poem, half song.
So thinking outside the box there.
And he titled this Different Lives to Live.
And it warmed my heart.
And I hope it does for you, dear listener.
And he wrote, Humans, all their lives they hide, but other things seem more alive.
Snow hares run white against the snows to settle in their winter homes.
White-tailed deer, they jump, they play, they never waste their lives away.
Big black bears, they climb, they run.
These are signs they have lots of fun.
See, these animals don't waste away.
But if you're not convinced, here's more I'll say: Fish, they swim, they lay their eggs.
In the animal world, they're not just pegs.
Many birds, they fly, they soar all day.
They're important too, I'll say.
Little cubs, they have lots of fun while their parents bask in the sun.
See, these animals don't waste away.
Us humans should be more like them.
I say we can run and jump and escape sheer bliss.
Only some animals can do part of this.
So, you see, my friends, we too have lives to live, and we should accept the gift that nature gives.
So, that's Junior elementary school.
I was so proud.
He just busted that out on his own, not an assignment from school or from our parents.
And that's great.
And that's so much better than anything Amy Schumer has ever done.
That's right.
Yeah, a little, you know, and it's not too like, you know, all about nature.
It's getting an inspiration from nature to enrich your own lives.
And yeah, we have a lot of it here.
Two Canada geese came back.
They come back every spring.
And actually, they nest every spring and they never have offspring, but they stay together and they make a nest every spring and they come back.
That's a true story.
We go eventually, eventually, they move on and they leave the eggs.
And we go and sort of cautiously, this has happened two years in a row.
We cautiously tap them and there's nothing going on, but they keep at it.
And we're hoping, you know, the mother Canada goose, thankfully, there's only two of them because just the two of them really shit all over the property everywhere.
But, you know, we're keeping our fingers crossed that maybe, just maybe for these two geese, and you know, obviously a certain parallel with some in our audience that this will be the year that we have little baby Canada geese on our pond.
Yeah, we can take them to the clinic.
That's right.
Yeah.
Capture them.
Yeah, that I was going to bring up our dear dog is, she's been deaf for years.
She's 15 and now she's starting to go blind.
She's starting to bump into things.
And it's approaching the time where it seems like she's not getting any joy out of life.
She's still eating.
She's still drinking.
She still mostly does her business outside the house.
But I think I mentioned this on a previous show, and a listener wrote in and said that he had a similar experience.
And he's a tougher guy than I am.
And he said he took his beloved dog out to a field and, you know, he brought his, I think it was a nine millimeter, made sure it was full metal jacket and not hollow point.
And then he went to do the deed, but he had forgotten to rack the slide.
So the click freaked the dog out.
And then he had to calm him or her down.
And then he did, you know, with one, with one trigger pull, end it cleanly.
And he suggested that that is the manly way to do it.
And I am tempted to do that for the life test to make it quick, simple, have that moment with the dog.
But my wife and Mr. Producer tell me that I'm crazy.
And if it's not Bugman to call a vet and hold the dog and just get the shot to put her down.
So you guys don't have to weigh in on that.
What we're going to think about it.
But just one of those rites of passage.
Never had to do that with an animal.
Our cats growing up always found a way to just wander away and disappear toward the end of their lives.
But our beloved dog, who we had since 2007, is coming to the end of her days.
And we love her to death, but she's definitely on the decline.
And that decision is coming up soon.
So we'll cross that bridge, I don't know, fairly soon.
Not to end it.
Yeah.
Not to end it.
Mr. Producer says, don't be stupid.
Don't go shoot your dog.
Think the trauma.
I'm going to have to live with that memory for the rest of my life.
This is not just any animal.
This is your family friend and family member, in a sense.
Right.
It's not a horse.
Yep.
All right, gentlemen.
Well, that's a to-be-continued, not to be Donnie Downer at the end of the show.
Go around the horn and we'll bring this puppy home.
We'll start with our youngest.
I, you know, we kind of gambled on this one.
I never talked to Nate or to Calem before this show.
Simply took them on good faith on their emails and the intelligence of their written word, and you guys delivered.
So, Nate, thank you.
Bless you for coming through that life trial of yours.
Yeah, thank you all so much for having me on.
I've never really done a show like this before.
I had fun.
So you did great, buddy.
Come back on when you're engaged.
Deal.
All right.
You know, I got, you know, carrot and stick or whatever.
Calem, happy to have you, buddy.
Nice job as well.
Yeah, man.
You know, it was great.
I love you guys.
And you guys do a great job.
And the show is one of the most interesting things out there right now.
Just the variety and the perspectives.
And it just, it just resonates with me as the dad and looking for the future and of our people.
And I don't know, man.
I feel a kinship with you guys.
So thank you.
I'm humbled and honored to be on the show.
I really appreciate it.
Oh, we are honored by your presence, buddy.
And seriously, bless you and your wife for being so steadfast and sticking through it.
I did.
Yeah, we got misty and you talking about persevering and making it through and dear peanut smiling with, oh, oh, it's happening again.
Oh, I promised myself I wouldn't drive.
Hey, I would love to come back sometime and talk politics or whatever, man.
You're a big MAGA guy, right?
Yeah, it's Donald J. Trump 2022.
I was a huge supporter in 2016.
And I think that lasted about two months.
It's like, what?
He bombed Syria?
What?
Exactly.
And then it just went straight downhill from there.
And probably the biggest black pill was trying to talk since into people who still believed.
And there's still people who still believe Trump is their guy.
And it's just like, holy moly.
And not to get into politics, but no.
No, that's all right.
Yep.
No, we'd be happy to have you back.
And how did you hear about us or find us?
You know, I think it was probably in 2016.
I probably stumbled on you on Twitter and it was like, Coach, this guy's always getting banned off Twitter.
Thank you.
Followed you to the show.
I was like, ah, this is the show.
It's good stuff.
Thanks, buddy.
All right.
We'll have you on in the future for sure.
All right, Sammy, baby.
Hey, you and me driving this thing, pilot and co-pilot tonight.
That's right.
Yeah.
Very inspiring guests, inspiring stories.
And it's just one more example.
You know, when we talk to listeners, we hear from them on emails or like this, having them on the show and how connected we really are and what a great thing this show is and the people that listen and interact with each other.
It's heartening, say the least.
Yep.
But yeah, so thanks for this great show.
And we got Palm Sunday coming up this Sunday.
So best wishes to all.
Labor of love.
Yep.
Thank you, Sam.
Bless you and your family.
And Easter egg hunts for those with little kids and the Easter bunnies around the corner.
You know, Santa Claus Jr.
Don't forget.
Don't forget.
Yeah.
I often share our little family traditions.
The Easter Bunny visits sometime before Easter Sunday and puts little plastic eggs with, I assume this is pretty standard.
This isn't like groundbreaking stuff, but puts little eggs with chocolates and coins and all the rest of it hidden throughout the property.
He puts easy ones for the young kids and really challenging ones for the older kids who might be a little bit jaded by these things.
And then there's a little Easter basket with some, you know, not at all Christmas tier bonanza of materialism, but just some little stuff that the kids like.
So we always appreciate that.
And yeah, and actually, I won't go into it, but yeah, maybe visiting grandma and grandpa.
And I told my Catholic mother if she wants to take the kids to Mass, she can.
Maybe I'll join.
I don't know.
We'll see.
To be determined, just like our dear dog.
All right.
Full house episode 84 was taped on an uproarious peeper peeping March 25th.
Now March 26, 2021, unfortunately from inside the shed instead of the gazebo.
I don't know how long I'm going to have to be in here with these damn frogs.
Follow us on Telegram, please, at t.me/slash pro white fam.
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We are not doing bit shoot anymore because they seem to have soft banned or blocked us constant endless uploading.
We're going to give it one more shot to see if it is actually a technical glitch.
And if the same thing happens, we're going to abandon that and move on to Odyssey as well.
All the cool kids are going to Odyssey.
D Live is like gossiping about how they're trying to get the terrible, awful truth tellers off their platform.
So, however, I know we built a nice following on D Live and people there in the peanut gallery, the lemon gallery were asking when we were going to live stream again.
So we're waiting for a happening or a special event and we'll do that and we'll get on Odyssey as well.
So, to all white men and women who are considering adoption due to inability to conceive or simply out of the goodness of their hearts, good luck.
Godspeed.
Navigate carefully.
Never despair.
Save young white lives.
Make new white lives.
And we salute you.
For this week, I wasn't sure what to go out with, but Sam has been so kind to embrace the EDM that we're going to go to one in his wheelhouse.
We got a recommendation from a listener for a Lanzer track that was a little bit over the top and possibly grating on the kids' ears if they're still listening at this late hour in the show.
So we agreed on Nordland, Sam, which tickled me.
Tell us a little bit about Lanzer in general.
I can't remember if we did that off mic or on mic on the show.
I think it was off mic.
Yeah, Lanzer, this band goes back into the 90s, and white power music in Germany has faced censorship.
And it is allowed, except that they will typically hire a lawyer who will read the lyrics and approve them for publishing.
So there are a lot of great German bands that have survived through that era, but they obeyed the law.
Now, Lanzer, on the other hand, they would have offending lyrics, offending to the law, that is.
And so when they would play a gig, they would wear ski masks.
If they were in a photo, they would have ski masks or they would, they kept their identities secret.
Sure.
Not the daft bunk, yeah.
Right.
And so the controversy came because, of course, the 9-11 attackers, they were organizing in Germany.
I forget which city that was they were in, but that was maybe around the area where Lanzer was active.
So you had all this police activity to find out who were the members of this rock and roll band, this dangerous rock and roll band.
Meanwhile, you had these Arab terrorists organizing more or less openly to eventually lead to the 9-11 bombings in the U.S.
And of course, the coppers, they got Lanzer and they got some years in prison for it.
And they did get out of prison.
They've gone on to other musical projects, but conforming to the law.
So that's felony music making.
Yeah, right.
So it's so ridiculous, you know, that you talk about white fragility.
What about the fragility of these people?
They're afraid of a rock and roll band.
Yep.
But Lanzer, of course, is a medieval term.
It's like a spearman or a foot soldier.
And that's what the word Lanzer means.
But a lot of great stuff.
They were very young guys at the time.
And in those early days, some of the recordings varied in their quality.
But on the whole, Lanzer stuff was really great.
And they went on to make other great stuff after that under different names.
But there you go.
And I intentionally forgot to thank Mr. Producer.
Mr. Producer, thank you very much, my friend.
You're welcome.
Bone to pick with you guys, though.
When you introduce the song, we try to go out with the song.
Okay, all right.
Now, in the past, what I've done is I've taken the first.
You can't loop it that long.
Oh, I can, and I will.
Well, for our good friend, Mr. Producer, please put on Nordland by Lancer.
Thank you.
We love you, fam.
And we'll talk to you next week.
No smasher, our new tradition is uh Tom Sewell saying, Put him up!