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For far too many of us, we are awaiting the arrival of a savior.
Sure, most of us do little things every day to advance the cause, whether it's raising healthy white children, donating to our guys, or merely spreading virtuous propaganda, maybe even via a podcast.
But I think I can speak on behalf of our collective to say we feel in our bones that relatively atomized action is inadequate and that leadership, sacrifice, and greatness is demanded of us.
Now, I'm not hinting that our special guest this week is the second coming of Uncle, but every once in a while, a new charismatic individual comes forth who rattles the system's cage and in doing so inspires us.
Sometimes he flames out.
Sometimes he gets squashed by the system.
And sometimes he goes on to become a hero.
And we are honored this week to welcome the Australian bad boy, Thomas Sewell, to talk all things about the predicament we find ourselves in, what we all can and should do, and how maybe, just maybe you, yes, you, dear listener, can become a man or woman against time and help vanquish our enemies.
So, mr producer, let's go everyone to
episode 83 of Full House, the world's most Aussie respecting show for white fathers, aspiring ones and the whole bio fam.
I am, as always, your diplomatic host, Coach Finstock, back with another hour, probably, of the finest in dad-credentialed commentary amidst global Weimar.
Before we meet the birth panel and our special guest, however, big thanks to a very special listener who said that she would be making a year or two's worth donations shortly.
Thank you very much, ma'am.
You better come through.
And you know what that means, fellas?
You are on the hook for another year or two contract in Coach's salt mines.
Sorry about that.
Smasher is already googling Palmetto State Armory.
I see him there rubbing his calloused hands.
And also to our friend Surreal this week.
Thank you for your support as well, buddy.
All right, enough of me.
Let's get on to the birth panel.
First up, when we told him who our guest would be this week, he sneered.
Oh, another young tough guy with the answers to everything.
Seeing him come, seeing him go, dime a dozen.
Sam, don't say that about the talent.
Yeah, well, you know, I have four children older than this guy, so let's see what he's got.
Fair enough.
But yeah, it's an exciting show.
I've been listening to this fellow for a while, and I'm interested to hear what he has to say and to talk to him.
But I quickly wanted to say, I hope not anticlimactically, but I wanted to mention, you know, we had St. Patrick's Day yesterday, yesterday for me.
Some of you are already ahead of the next day, but on the 17th, we had St. Patrick's Day, and we enjoyed the wonderful corned beef and cabbage and Irish soda bread.
So I hope everyone enjoyed that.
But I wanted to mention also tomorrow, which would be today for some of you listeners already, the 19th of March is St. Joseph's Day, which is also a wonderful celebration.
A lot of Italian people celebrate this.
They will have these St. Joseph's altars that they set up in their home, and they will make it up with like a fish-based pasta, like things with sardines or anchovies, and the zeppoly bread that they will twist up into like crosses or other little images and cookies and things like that.
And I sent you a couple pictures, Coach.
Maybe you could put it in the show notes for some ideas for people to celebrate with their families.
It's a tradition.
It kind of goes back more, a little bit, maybe more like mythology than things we can actually verify historically.
But many centuries ago, there was a famine, and the people prayed and had faith and persevered.
And they finally were blessed, and they attributed their blessings to St. Joseph.
And so this tradition of celebrating St. Joseph's Day was started.
So look it up.
Look it up on Google or look at the pictures.
I hope you can post them, Coach, and think about making some of those recipes for tomorrow and having some of that good food and/or decorating your home like that.
Good thing.
Thank you, Sam.
You got your screwdriver sweatshirt on.
Yeah.
And in the white Imperium, maybe we're going to get a saint hood for you.
So thank you, buddy.
All right.
Next up, when he was informed of our special guest this week, you could just see his glowing eyes come to life, not in hostility, but at the thrill of finally having someone on this show who might give him a run for his money.
Smasher, who's tougher, you or Thomas Sewell?
Well, four months ago, I was bleeding out in a farmer's field, and today I'm hoisting heavy beams and deadlifting 400 pounds.
I pulled 400.
Nice.
Way to go, buddy.
That was a very diplomatic answer, too.
You dodged it like a true NJP politician.
Everything good, brother?
Yeah, everything's great.
Truck is great.
Yeah, I promise I wasn't rubbing my hands about donations.
I was playing with shock system for my hood.
It has one of those stupid things, you lift the hood up and then it has the little kickstand thing.
And so I got some gas shocks so that I don't have to actually pick the hood up.
Good stuff.
I changed the oil on my truck the other day.
I was very proud of myself.
Didn't take it into a garage.
Baby steps.
Okay.
That doesn't void your warranty.
I didn't think about that.
Serious question.
Redact that from the show, Mr. Producer.
I did not change the oil on my truck.
All right.
Anyway, yeah, let's stop Gabbin and get on to our very special and patient guest.
The audience is like, come on, guys.
When I was asked a few months ago to go check out Thomas Sewell's Telegram channel, I replied, thanks.
I already went through the phase of lionizing a black American conservative who looked like a non-insane version of Cornell West just to prove that I wasn't racist.
But when I took the time to watch a few videos from this straight shooting, no holds barred white advocate from down under, I sat up straight and paid attention.
And you should too, dear listener.
Thomas, welcome to Full House, brother.
Thank you very much.
Very good introduction.
Thanks for having me.
I appreciate it.
We're dads here.
So, you know, we do our homework.
We do our prep.
And seriously, we're honored to have you.
Now, you may be a swinging dick down under, but you still got to answer our three standard questions here, brother.
Ethnicity, religion, and fatherhood status, please.
Ethnicity, I'm an Anglo-Saxon.
My family's from originally from the north of England.
So it would be like an Anglo-Saxon mix.
I don't think it's much Norman.
And then they moved down in the Industrial Revolution down to South England.
And then in the last hundred years, they moved to the Anglosphere.
So, religion, my religion, I'm an Aryan.
That's my religious belief.
I believe in the total full worldview, and that is that we are in a mission, a judgment to get to the coming man, and that our race is trying to race literally to the Imperium, to a higher plane of spiritual consciousness, you know, ideological understanding and material being.
So, mind, body, soul.
I believe, I appreciate and believe in the wisdom of our past, of our ancestors, of Christendom and our ancient religions prior to Christendom.
And I'm more or less, what would the word be on the sort of debate?
I would say I would be secular regarding that schism within our wider movement.
And yeah, when I'm asked about my sort of like ideological belief or political belief or religious belief, I say I'm an Aryan.
I say I'm a national socialist.
I'm all three.
Like, it's not, to me, there's no difference between political belief, ideological belief, and religious belief.
To me, it's worldview.
It's total worldview.
It's what lends on chong.
Exactly.
So, my worldview, how I look at all life, all existence is the same way that Adolf Hitler did.
And that is, we are struggling against our environment as a life form to remain supreme and to advance ourselves and to preserve ourselves like every organism on this planet is doing, whether it be single cell or mankind.
And I believe we've done this process for so long now that we're at a point where we're connecting to God, we're connecting to a divine consciousness.
And that is our mission here on this earth to actually get to another material and spiritual level so we can get more messages from this thing that's above us and that we don't really truly understand right now.
And yeah, the final question: fatherhood status.
At the moment, I'm single and unmarried.
And I, of course, would like that to change, but my material is.
It's the noodle arms, isn't it?
The ladies just, you got to get in the gym.
Sorry.
Yeah, I think I've said this in a video before because I do get a few marriage requests through my telegram.
I would say the main reason why I'm single is because I prioritize what we're doing.
And I unfortunately place my personal life, and that includes a family and a woman, second to this mission that we're on.
And I think it would take a very special woman to be able to understand and recognize that.
So I'm married to the cause.
I'm married to our survival.
And yeah, my material progeny I see as being secondary to a duty that we need to do.
There's many greater men than me, many millions of white men that died in World War I and World War II that never had the chance to have kids.
That doesn't mean I don't want to have kids.
I want to have 10 kids.
I want to have eight kids.
I want to have a really big family.
I really want to have a big family one day with the right person.
But as I said, I think I have more important, pressing things to do.
Someone needs to stand up and say the things we're saying.
And I'm putting that first at the moment.
And I will probably for my whole life.
Amen.
Well said.
Yeah.
JO says, if you become the second coming, then you get a total pass on having kids.
We push that hard for our audience because it is so important.
There's no reason to struggle if there aren't white children to inherit our good work and our struggle.
But yeah, I hear you.
Well, in the past, you go.
What I've said on the past on the subject of having children, because a lot of people think that I advocate against having kids, people misconstrue a lot of my messages because I tell people that they need to prioritize constructive, positive, Active action.
And I see having children as being one of those things.
Absolutely.
But I see that there's 10, 20, 30 things that we all need to do.
And children are one of them.
It's one of the most important ones, if not materially the most important one.
But I see that there's so many.
And I've said in the past that there's never a more perfect time to have children than right now.
And I'm sick of people having the attitude that I'll hold off, I'll hold off.
Oh, you know, I want to get the house first or I want to do this.
No, no, no, you will make it work.
Have children right now.
If you have a partner that you love, you know, do the business, do the deed, do the, you know, go through the correct procedure, you know, put the ring on the finger, do the wedding, whatever it is that your culture requires you to do.
You know, make that commitment, make that material and spiritual bond, and start having kids right now.
And don't let it get in the way of what your mission is here on this earth.
It is something that should only embolden and strengthen your mission because now you're fighting for something real.
It's with you.
And a lot of guys, in my opinion, use having kids as a coat for not doing anything.
And they use that.
You know, they say, oh, but I've got kids.
Oh, you know, I got to put food on the table.
It's like, you will put food on the table.
Like, the show goes on.
The show goes on.
It doesn't matter what negative thing happens to us.
Our ancestors suffered so much more.
You know, we're not even getting shot at yet.
You know, bullets aren't even flying over our head yet.
There's no excuse.
And, you know, I like to think, I know I'm going on, but I'll just say one more point.
You know, I like to think about our ancestors a lot and I like to think about the struggles they faced.
And, you know, I can guarantee the men that were about to go off in World War II or World War I or a Viking long ship raid, you know, before they left for that raid, if they knew summer was coming and that raid was coming up.
There's no way they said to their wife before leaving, hey, look, you know, honey, this raid's going to be pretty hectic.
You know, it's probably not a good idea to have kids until I get back.
It's like, nah, that's not what happened.
And we're like, let's have as many before I go because I might not be coming back.
You know, it's like, we'll work out a way.
All of these things are just like the normal course of life, right?
Falling in love and having a family and fighting wars and getting a job and doing all these things are just part of life.
So you look at, sadly, we could all probably look in our own circle of friends and there's so many guys that should be our guys, but there's just this failure to launch.
You know, they can't meet a woman.
They can't have kids.
They can't make anything work.
You know, you talk to somebody, oh, I just can't get a job.
I'm trying to look for a job.
Well, I'm sorry, but these are just things that you do in life.
These are not some sort of special events in some kind of way.
This is doing your duty.
So all of these things are doing our duty.
And I like what you were saying the one time I was listening to you and you were saying about this is like doing a fire watch.
This is our duty to do it.
So what are you going to do?
Say, oh, I slept through my fire watch and the fire burnt out or the fire burned out of control or whatever it is.
You know, that's not it.
This is, these are all things that are in our normal course of life that we must do.
Yep.
It's essential, but insufficient, I always say too.
Yeah, we're not going to breed our way out of this, but we still have to breed.
Yeah, let's assume that the listener doesn't know anything about you.
Obviously, not everybody is on Telegram, and that seems to be your main vector to us in the States.
Yeah, exactly.
We've been banging that drum.
We got banned from Twitter probably for the last time in the past month.
So let's dig into motivation and background.
Why didn't you just turn out to be an easygoing middle-class guy, have a couple VB long necks after work, and care about what your neighbors think and go along to get along?
Personal constitution.
Sure.
And yeah, you don't get many short answers from me, so enjoy it.
All right.
Did you get woke by something happening personally or was it a gradual process?
How long have you been doing this?
You've only been on our radar maybe for a few months.
When I was born, I was a national socialist.
When I was born, I, you know, I was born into the laws of nature and there was no denying them.
And all I've ever done is unlock the knowledge that was already there, that was already given to us by the many great men that came before us.
And that, as I said before, that connection to something above.
And I would say my red pill was not one singular moment.
I can think of 10, 20 moments where my character and my ideology and my spiritual connection continued and increased.
I can go through some of them if you want, but yeah, I would say the very first one, the very first lesson that I learned was I was four years old and I was playing Monopoly with my grandfather, my father's father.
And we were done playing Monopoly and I wanted to play Scrabble.
And so I went and grabbed the Scrabble and my grandfather said to me, Thomas, you can't play Scrabble.
You haven't cleaned up the Monopoly yet.
We have to finish what we started before we start something new.
And that was my first red pill.
And that might not seem like a big red pill, but that's how I feel about the cosmic truth of what we're going through at the moment.
We've got to clean up what we started.
You know, there's a lot of people that pipe dream and they're planning how wide the roads are going to be.
And it's like, we are so far off that.
Let's clean up what we start.
Let's clean up our countries first.
Let's clean up our homes first.
We're going to clean up ourselves even before that.
So we clean up ourselves.
We get a clean home.
We clean up our home.
We get a clean community and neighborhood.
We get a clean neighborhood.
You know, I'm not planning on releasing the policy placement for the white earth policy anytime soon because what I'm interested in is having a network, a close-knit network of guys in my local suburb that are white nationalists that care about the future of this country, that care about our community and our culture.
And that to me is so much more important than grand strategy playing what we're going to do at a geopolitical scale with China in a thousand years' time.
Well, you're saying that the 47 hours I spent drawing the Mars colonization uniform was a waste of time.
Yeah.
Honestly.
Honestly, I wouldn't do that because I'm not an idiot.
There's different layers of priests.
You know, if you think about it, some are really close to home and some are way out in the woods and they're staring at the stars and they're planning the next thousand years.
And, you know, the movement needs everything.
It needs guys that are thinking all the way forward in time.
But mostly right now, what we need is guys thinking about right now.
So a question about my red pill.
Absolutely.
The question about my red pills.
That's when I was sort of every lesson that I remember from my childhood ties in with the worldview.
And it didn't make sense to me when I was young and it didn't understand.
We call it in Melbourne, we call it like memed into reality.
And so sometimes a meme in our social circles will become really present and it'll just be like on repeat, on repeat, on repeat.
And one that actually just popped up just at the start of the show is you called me a talking head.
And my dad mutters a lot.
He's an old man now.
He's 70.
And whenever I go around, he mutters and he has like a band that he likes when he was like 40 or 50 or, you know, maybe even younger.
And it's called Talking Heads.
And sometimes I'll come around the house and he'll say, talking heads, talking heads, talking heads, talking heads.
And I'll be like, what are you muttering, old man?
Like, what are you, what are you saying?
He's like, talking heads, talking heads, talking heads.
And I'm just like, what is this guy going on about?
And it started to make a little bit of sense to me when I started making Telegram videos on just a talking head.
It's like talking heads, talking heads, talking heads.
It's like something's talking to us.
Something's, you know, like something's, it's, it gives me goosebumps.
I don't know how to explain it.
And I get all these synchronicities and I look into all the like the esotericism of this stuff.
And it's like, we are connected.
We are on a holy mission.
And anyone that doesn't think so is not connected.
They need to stop watching porn and jerking off because, you know, they're losing their bridge.
They're losing their bridge to whatever's above us that's telling us what to do and how we're going to win this battle.
We're getting help.
We are getting help 100%.
And I thought that was crazy two years ago.
I thought that was crazy three years ago.
But we're so off topic now.
I've been doing this.
I've been doing this since 21.
I got involved with some SIVNAC groups and anti-Islam groups.
And I was always NS.
I was NS since probably 18, like openly NS with my sort of friends and stuff like that.
And I was rejected quite heavily because of it, because they didn't understand.
And that was around the time I read Mein Kampf.
I was trying to meet up with skinheads and stuff when I was young, like when I was a teenager, but I just, I don't hold anything against those guys.
I think they carried a torch and they tried their best.
But I just, it wasn't going anywhere.
And I just, yeah, I didn't bother.
I joined the army and I forgot all about that stuff.
And then when I left the army, I, you know, I started going on forums again and started looking at the stuff.
And actually, while I was in the army, there was that Lee Rigby got his head chopped off and he was in the British Army.
And there's just so many red pills.
Like there's just so many moments where you just can pinpoint a moment where it was like, this is where I started to get a bit more radical and started going like, this is a problem.
We need to deal with this problem.
What is going on?
Like we had our company sergeant major read out a report or an order, sorry, from one of the generals in Canberra when that Lee Rigby got his head chopped off.
And he said that if, and I was an infantry soldier, so we were trained infantry soldiers.
We were doing pre-deployment training for Afghanistan to go shoot these ragtops.
And we got a written order read out to us saying, if a terrorist attack happens and if these jihadis come to the military base, we are to hide under the coffee tables in the lunchroom and call the Northern Territory Police.
And I'm sitting there just like, am I in clown world?
Am I taking crazy pills?
What the fuck is going on in this country?
Where are all the like?
I'm so angry.
I'm still angry to this day from that moment.
Like, what the?
Sorry.
I shouldn't say that.
Yeah, you already forgot.
I'm on TV.
That's right.
Yeah, you have to donate.
I'll start again.
I'll start again.
$21 million.
Sorry, sorry.
I just, I let loose.
You have to donate two Bitcoin to a pro-white company.
That's what, like, $2.50.
No, that's fine.
We'll just keep it.
I'll keep going.
I'll keep going.
Just edit out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm so fuming.
Like, what is going on?
Who is ruling over us?
It's like these satanic, you know, people, people say online, all these satanic pedophiles and trannies and femboys.
And it's like, at first, you think it's kind of crazy.
And then when you really realize what's going on in the country, you're like, no, literally crazy people, like insane, demonic devil people are ruling over us.
They have tapped into something different to what we've tapped into.
They're tapping into a downward force.
They're tapping into something demonic, something downward-pointed earth.
Yeah, they're inverted.
They're an upside-down triangle.
They're a synagogue of Satan, you know, and they are, it is, it is scary where they're getting their advice from because like they're not stopping.
They've got a will to destroy earth.
They've got a will to destroy everything beautiful and noble and strong.
And they're breaking people's brains.
People can't think anymore.
People that five or ten years ago you could have an honest conversation with are now like screaming about you because you don't have 87 masks strapped all over your body and you aren't shoving various objects into various places and kissing black people's feet.
And you're like, bro, five years ago, you said the N-word.
What happened?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just today, I was talking to a regular guy and we had been playing footsie with each other, no homo politically, you know, dancing around issues and inching toward the truth.
And today, exactly.
And it was clear.
I can't believe you just said you were playing FTSE with me.
Isolate that.
But the point was, it had gone far enough that, yes, he was questioning Q and he was feeling sorry for the good white Americans who were getting hemmed up by the FBI for the Capitol Fracas or the Capitol self-guided tour.
And eventually we just went there.
And at the end of it, he looked like a kid on Christmas morning.
He shook my hand.
He said, of the 75 or 100 customers that I have, not a single one of them have I been able to speak freely about.
And I went out of there feeling like a million bucks.
He probably is like excited, like somebody else gets it.
So that's, you know, giving approval, being bold, living honestly, not being able to do it.
Stop lying to people.
Stop lying to people.
This makes me so mad, right?
Like, I mean, I'm just going to say it.
Like, I got doxxed.
I never acknowledged it on the show as policy, but I'm breaking it.
Like, I got doxed.
I have a SPLC article, and it didn't matter in my life at all because every day I went out there and I was a national socialist.
I was a race realist.
And everybody knows, and I've never hid it from anybody.
And nobody, like, nothing happened.
Nothing happened.
Yeah, so many guys are terrified of that, living in mortal fear of objectively found beliefs being connected to their real name.
And that's no way to live.
Go ahead, Sam.
Well, that's where the more of us put it out there, right?
When somebody sits and listens to a Thomas Soule video, I mean, it's giving permission for people to acknowledge the truth that they feel is in their hearts.
That's why it's your views to be normal.
If you want your views to be normal, you don't want to be ostracized.
You don't want to lose your job or your family or whatever for believing what you believe, then convince people.
Live your life the way that you believe you should live your life.
Not as, oh, if I say that the cabal that runs the country, everybody knows that banks run the world.
So just tell them that Jews run the banks, right?
And because you're too afraid to tell people that.
Nobody will ever, it won't become a popular idea.
Communism wasn't popular when they first introduced it.
And guess what?
They're like, we're just going to like meme communism until people become communists.
And now like it's a normal, totally cool thing to be a communist.
Thomas, just like anything, just like I am into and have been into homeschooling.
And there are a lot of people who may entertain that ambition, but maybe it seems pie in the sky to them.
Wow, I would be interested in homeschooling, but how do you do it?
Can people do it?
Is anybody really doing it?
Well, okay, here I am.
I'm doing it.
So there you go.
So when you hear me talk about it, if I can do it, you can do it.
Sam, you're old enough to remember the 80s, right?
Oh, yeah.
Sure.
Okay.
And so am I, Smasher.
I was in high school and then I was in college in the 80s.
And so we had like the AIDS crisis and being gay was a huge, being gay was a huge problem.
And now, you know what?
Gay people like rape kids in the streets and everybody loves it.
So if you tell me that you like, there's no point in being open about your views and we should just hide and collect money and stuff, you are just a faggot and you should be ashamed of yourself.
I hate to think what some of our bolder ancestors would think of us collectively for what we've put up with.
Thomas, let's talk about, yeah, your approach is no holds barred, straightforward truth.
And I think part of the appeal is that you come across your approach is no nonsense, straightforward truths coming from a normal, appearing, well-presenting, well-spoken guy.
Talk about what you intend to do by just speaking the truth.
What's your plan there?
And then talk a little bit about what you are doing on the ground in Australia.
Please.
So regarding ideology, I believe that there's two main concepts that bleed through everything.
And one is, you know, not to sound too esoteric, but it's the material and the immaterial.
And that bleeds through everything.
with us as humans, as men, that we use a motto in our organization called blood and honor.
And obviously this is national socialist doctrine.
And so what blood and honor means to us is to have the correct blood to continue that blood on, but blood alone isn't enough.
And that's why we say it's all well and good being a white nationalist, but you need to be more than just, okay, I'll preserve white blood.
It's like you also need to preserve the spiritual and transcendent concepts that also preserve white blood because you can't reflect things in just one plane.
It has to reflect in both.
And so blood and honor is our motto because it is literally everything.
And then regarding how the movement itself as a collective moves in a certain direction is by translating that same process of, well, what's blood and honor for a movement?
If that's what it is for an individual, how does it bleed through a movement?
Well, for a movement, it's truth and action.
If blood is a material concept and honor is a spiritual concept or a higher transcendent concept, well, that's faith and action or truth and action.
So we need to have, as a movement, we need to have an absolute truth.
We need to have a very strong foundation of what we believe, why we believe it.
And if there's any lies or hypocrisy in that, it needs to be ironed out.
And so we're still in a process where we're ironing out all the hypocrisy in our worldview.
And when that is ironed out, we will be a step closer to resolving the issue.
But truth and ideology in itself achieves nothing because you could have the greatest ideology.
You could have, you know, a cast of priests up on the mountain, you know, doing 265 days of fasting of some, you know, some form.
And, you know, they could talk to God and they could get all the answers and the barbarians are going to come in and chop them in half.
And so there needs to be a material reflection of that truth.
So we can't just be priests, but we can't just be barbarians or brutes or grugs.
And so this is a Platoic or a Greco-Roman.
This is an ancient.
This is an Aryan philosophy that we need to be noblemen.
We need to be Aryans.
And another way of saying that is citizen soldiers, political soldiers, or, you know, warrior priests.
Warrior police.
And so that's what I am trying to achieve with my men and with the people around me and with my community is understanding that individual action is the first struggle.
You have to resolve the demons internally first.
And when you break the bonds of these material demons, then you are then free to do your duty.
And while you're tied down to your materialism, and there's many different forms and we're all aware of some of them, but when you're tied down to some of these things, it limits your ability to do your duty.
And so we have to place duty and honor and manhood and blood above gold and silver and comfy clothes and nice cars and nice houses.
And so it's not just jargon.
You know, a lot of people have been saying this stuff for a long time.
And maybe they haven't been doing it in the best possible way.
Maybe they haven't been explaining it, you know, to the layman, you know, to the carpenter and to the lawyer, you know, to the esotericists and to the 90 IQ, you know, guy that, you know, I don't know, pours concrete for a living, you know.
But we need to be able to explain this to our people.
We need to be able to explain it to the common man and also someone that maybe has a little bit more of an understanding.
And we need to be able to recruit and find a place for everyone in our community.
And so I use one of my expressions is that we need to do moat, you know, keep moat, bailey, you know, farm forest.
You know, it's like a hierarchy.
It's like the NSDAP gave us a really interesting model.
I'm not using it exactly, but you had the leadership cadre.
You had Adolf Hitler and his closest men around him.
And then you had a supporting 200 or 600 men around that.
Then you had an institution, a warrior priest cast, an institution called the SS, and they were absolute true to the worldview.
They were mind-body-spirit.
They not just understood, you know, the racial situation or the Jewish situation, they also understood their ancestors.
You know, they, they, you know, most, almost every SS officer that I'm aware of had to have a degree in something practical and they had to have some sort of arts degree as well.
They had to have some sort of understanding of, like, you know, Kurt Eggers, for example, you know, like spoke fluent like Sanskrit or something like that.
Like, you know, these guys were like esotericists.
They, they understood like deep, intricate Aryan history.
They understood, you know, deep, intricate, you know, folklore.
But not just that, they were petrochemical engineers.
You know what I mean?
So they were full ubermensch.
On top of that, they were fit.
On top of that, they were healthy.
On top of that, they were spiritually lean.
On top of that, they had wives and many kids.
The full picture.
So, and not every SS man was of that caliber, but that was the best SS man.
That was the men right at the top of the cadre of the warrior priests.
And it bled through that.
So there was, you know, the Waffen-SS was obviously a very large organization, had to lower their standards a bit, but it was still led by amazing, incredible men that were right at the top, proved through meritocracy, through hierarchy, that they were the closest thing to divinity.
They were the closest thing to what it means to materialize divine consciousness here on this plane.
And they were the most holy men in that entire period.
And we have to be holy men.
And that means to materialize God.
And then you've got underneath that SS, you had the SA, which were kind of like your brutes, your stormtroopers, guys that were just hardcore political activists.
They would form up.
They would be lockstep.
They would march in sync.
They just got the message.
They didn't need to be geniuses on the worldview.
They didn't need to speak fluent Sanskrit or read all the Bhagavad Gita and the Vedic texts and be petrochemical engineers, but they had to know how to use a shovel, use a rifle, and march in time with everyone else and do their duty.
And so you've got another cadre, another cast of men that are more warriors, not so much priests, but they do understand.
They have to have a basic understanding of the worldview and you have to produce educational material for people at that level.
And then underneath that, you had people that were community members, more or less.
You had the Nazi party or NSDAP party, I should say, membership.
And they were guys that would go to a rally once a month or once a fortnight.
They weren't going to put the brown shirt uniform on.
They weren't going to beat up commies in the street.
They weren't going to put up posters or stickers or whatever it is.
But they were going to rock up and be a warm body and say, hey, I'm here.
I support.
I'm going to come out in person.
And then the last cadre that you had after that, or the last cast, was you had just the general German citizenry and a whole bunch of them ended up voting for this like super mega organism, political superstructure.
And so people want to talk about political solutions and talk about, well, Adolf Hitler won elections.
Like you don't understand what Adolf Hitler was.
You don't understand how he won an election.
He didn't win an election.
He won the hearts and minds and he had more men capable than the enemy.
And he won a metaphysical battle and a transcendent battle long before he ever won at the battle box, the ballot box.
So these people that want to talk about political solutions, they want to make political parties, awesome, but they need to realize the ballot box is just the final, the final little tick in the box right at the end.
He already won the, and I'll give you a good example.
You know, Adolf Hitler was the major party in 32, but they wanted to go into a joint party thing with the, you know, like the system was geared that he had to share power with demonikists and the other nationalists.
And Hitler said, no, we're not.
We're going back to the ballot box.
Now, you know, if the law says that you do an election every three years or four years or two years, how do you just sit there and say, no, we're doing it again until I win?
How do you have the power to sit there and say, no, we are going back to the ballot box until I win?
The strong man.
Exactly.
The strong man is strongest when he stands alone.
Exactly.
And so a lot of this comes from the concept of that the state has a monopoly on violence.
Exactly.
And if you can match that, maybe not in a literal sense where you're like, like Hitler wasn't necessarily going to war literally with the state.
But the state at that point knew spiritually.
We don't have the power to mess with this man.
I guess we're going to the ballot box.
Yes.
And then they can't cheat you.
They can't cheat your election when you've got a million stormtroopers marching through the building.
You know, when you've got a million essay lined up, lock stop, all marching in sync in the same uniform, you can't steal an election off Adolf Hitler.
Well, you know, why did why did Trump or Q or all this other nonsense?
Why does it all fail?
It all fails because there's no concrete, there's no cadre, not serious.
It's just you've got this false idol, this Judas goat, and you've got all these people blindly following him.
And there's no, where's the organization to back it up?
You know, where's the hierarchy?
Where's the meritocracy?
Where's the cadre?
Where's the educators?
Where's the political leaders?
You know, there's no SS, there's no SA, there's barely even a party membership.
You know, there's very few real men behind it.
If that's what I'm saying, that's all it comes down to.
The Bolsheviks won in 1917.
They had 2,000 serious Jews.
They had 2,000 serious Jews that were like, we're going to overthrow this monarchy.
2,000.
And they managed to mobilize millions of half-wits that fought against their own interests.
Fun story.
Lenin was basically broke and hiding out in Switzerland at the moment that the revolution came off and he had to get informed by Telegram or something and rush back for the Thomas.
One of the questions, I put out a solicitation for audience questions in Telegram, and we got a bunch, a lot of them overlapped.
But of course, you can't blame people.
Yeah, maybe one day.
You can't blame people.
It's human nature to put the cart before the horse.
And you're building a cadre.
You are bringing men together.
And we have banged that drum almost from the beginning on this show that it is imperative on our people to tribe up to network if for the only reason that it's required for survival these days.
You do not want to be atomized alone, living in a suburb with nothing but suburban housebroken dads in sneakers talking about the weather and sports and stuff like that.
But so you kind of answered the question: you're building a cadre of men, and it sounds like you are open to using the political process as a means to achieve our self-defense, our advocacy.
But after, and a lot of there are groups all across the white world of men coming together, building those bonds.
The toughest part to me is it's easy to make a club.
It's easy to assemble good men together.
Taking that to the next level, if you would just entertain, what would a next step be like without giving the game away?
So the goal is to set up these manaboons or these cadres all across the country.
So when we have solid cadres all across the country, the idea is to just continue our activism, continue our community building.
What is the next stage?
Well, we're only a couple hundred men at the moment.
We're not in a very strong position.
We are recruiting and we've had massive recruitment since January.
I mean, I'm working full-time just on recruitment, but we are a long way off.
This is going to take us a couple of decades.
I don't see this happening in Australia in the next year or two or three or four or five.
It's going to take us a long time to get this up and running, to get this off the ground.
The long-term goal.
Sorry, there's different layers of goals.
I would say, if you're asking me, what's my 20-year goal?
Where do I want to be in 20 years?
Where I want to be in 20 years' time is if we look at the racial demographics of Australia or the United States or Britain or Sweden or Germany, whatever it is, we're looking at probably being close to a minority in 20 years' time here in Australia.
If we're not an outright minority, we certainly will be a minority in the major cities.
Like, absolutely.
And so, what we're trying to do is there is a lot of white flight.
White people are running away from the problem, and that's always going to happen.
And what we need to do is stop them from being just random atomized white flight.
And we need to start politicizing these white flight corridors, these towns or these suburbs that they're running to.
We need to have our cadres in those towns, and we need to start politicizing these people.
We need to start telling them: well, you've run away to here.
This area is nice.
It's green.
It's white, but it won't be forever.
And you're going to have to run away again when the brown sludge makes it to this suburb.
And, you know, there's going to be a point where you can't run away anymore.
And we need to start holding ground.
We need to start taking territory.
And so, what our goal is, is to actually start controlling suburbs in the major cities.
So, if it's one or two or three or five or whatever, and controlling towns, regional country towns, and picking strongholds and building castles.
So, we are besieging the system that's trying to besiege us.
You know, we are being surrounded on all sides.
We're beset internationally in Australia by non-whites, 5 billion of them, maybe more, on every side.
And then, internally, we're migrating, I don't know, hundreds of thousands of non-whites a year into the country, plus the demographic replacement.
I don't need to go on and on about it.
You know this.
And so, what our goal is, is that as conditions worse, as the situation gets worse, we build bigger and stronger castles.
And as I said before, about you've got your keep.
So, your keep is like your HQ.
So, that's where your cadre are.
And the bigger your cadre, the bigger the keep.
And so, then you've got your moat and your Bailey, and you have all the people that are important and key to your organization.
So, that's people with technical skills.
So, you've got your blacksmiths, you got your, you know, it's just, we're just doing the same thing over and over again.
It's just, we're just doing it with computers and cars and, you know, planes and jets.
And, you know, I won't go the rest.
But yeah, so it's the internet, right?
So it's the same, it's the same thing.
It's the same thing.
It's the same struggle.
It's like a black mirror episode.
We've been born in this timeline and we've got this mission to do.
And can we do it?
Can we get it done?
Yes, we do every time.
And there's a happy ending at the end, but not without struggle and sacrifice.
So the next step, the next step for us is, yeah, to have that all set up and to never stop.
So ideally, eventually it would be a two-state solution.
In the next 50 years, I would hope that we get our act together quick enough that in the next 30, 40 years, we would be looking at a two-state solution.
So actually breaking away, controlling enough suburbs, enough rural territory, interconnecting all this rural territory, and basically saying, this is white Australia.
And you guys can do what you want with your multicultural shithole dump Australia, you know, and we're white Australia.
And you had that policy for 50 years, explicitly, white Australia policy in the United States.
God, you'd have to go back to our Immigration Act of 1795 and the 1925 Act in the United States, which was explicitly pro-European.
It's not that long ago after World War II, they upset the apple cart and forced this garbage on us.
I would like to build on his point for a moment.
Fire sounds.
Yeah.
What he was saying, and I was listening to in one of his other talks, this thing of maybe a wrong sense of disdain that some people may have, or maybe any of us are tempted to have for the cities.
You know, where the things are bad, that's where our people are waking up.
That's where you'll have the hardest core people.
That's where you'll have the sharpest lessons taught and things like that.
I remember back in my early days with the skinheads, that's where the skinheads were the most liveliest was in the cities.
California.
And you have some people who there's an impetus of some people to, well, I want to move to the rural areas where it's safe.
And sure, it may be safer, but there's a fallacy there because right now our people have a spiritual sickness.
And if you go to those very lily white areas that yet exist, maybe places in rural areas in the United States or even in Canada, in those areas, often they can't wait to give it away to the niggla.
They don't care about bullshit.
Yeah, they can't wait to give away their lily white community to diversity because our people have not loved ourselves as we ought to.
So right now, there's nothing that's out in some far rural area that is untouched and not ripe to be taken by this diversity cancer.
of modern society.
So no matter what, our people have got to be woken up and revolutionized, not only in the cities, which the Negro is driving that anyways, but also in the country, in the rural areas, too.
Yeah, we can't abandon the cities.
We can't give up.
There's all these white people here, and it's the most prime recruiting ground for good quality young white men that are really under the hammer and amvil of this system.
Nature always contains within it the corrective for its own problems.
So when things swing out of balance and things are so far out of balance now that the potential force, the driving force to bring it back right is very strong.
Well, and one of the hardest parts about recruiting your more rural people is that they don't see what's going on because they live in the middle of nowhere.
You know, if I had, if I had 10,000 acres and a cabin, yeah, like I already don't have cable.
I don't pay attention to mainstream news sources by choice because they're all run by Jews.
But if I lived in the country with a bunch of land, I wouldn't have any time for any nonsense.
You know, owning land takes a lot of work.
And a lot of these people out there, they have a lot to do.
But they don't know what's going on and they haven't experienced loss, which is a big problem.
But their ideas have not been formed in this proper national socialist or naturalistic, this healthy perspective.
So even though, yes, maybe they're not exposed to all the paws, but even so, they still have this same spiritual disease that our people have.
There's something very sublime about what we believe in.
You can go in the morning, you wake up, you go look yourself in the mirror.
You know, you should see that Aryan looking back at you.
Like Thomas started off in the beginning of the show, my religion or my politics, it's Aryan.
I like that.
That's exactly it.
They divide us in many ways.
What's your religion?
Protestant, Catholic, or Christian, non-Christian, labor, management, Republican, Democrat, conservative, liberal.
Yeah, but we're all Aryans.
And that's what we should be first.
That's the beautiful thing about National Socialism: you see class cooperation, you see religious cooperation.
And that's something that we as a movement struggle with.
And that's why when people want to bring up like, oh, well, I believe like this type of really specific thing or this type of really specific thing.
I'm just like, well, why aren't you just a national socialist?
Thomas, let's talk then about reaching those people who we sometimes derisively call normies or fence sitters.
A lot of our guys say, you don't, don't worry so much about the normies.
We put out our message and the right ones will come to us.
You don't need necessarily massive numbers of people.
You need a small cadre of committed men.
But waking people up and bringing them over to our side is essential and it's the right thing to do too.
And of course, you have been targeted by nattering nabobs of negatism, as Spiro Agnew, one of our old vice presidents, once called the media.
So saying, you know, you go too hard, salutes turn people off, bad optics, that cursed word.
What is your approach to winning the hearts and minds of our brothers and sisters, at least in Australia?
Well, you said at the start, when you started recording, you said something about men and women against time.
And I have a different take on that.
I think we're men that need to be above time.
And yeah, right now in this exact point in time, we are against time.
Yeah, it might seem.
But what if time is actually moving our way and we're just above it and no one can see it yet?
And the reason why my none of my optics are by accident.
None of my optics are by mistake.
The reason why I started doing this salute and the reason why I started addressing the JQ and the reason why I started saying openly that I'm a national socialist and every other personal or political or ideological growth that I have had in terms of putting it forward to the public is because I know that by the time we have won this, that will be normal.
And so I'm doing it right now because I'm above time and someone needs to start doing it early.
Now, there have been people that have carried that torch over, like the skinhead movement, and they continued with the saluting.
And there's fascist groups in Italy and Spain and all throughout Europe that have maintained the saluting.
And there's some other groups that maybe haven't done a too good a job at representing the worldview and the ideas that have been doing the saluting here in your country in America.
And it's not the saluting that is an issue.
The saluting is part of our worldview.
We are hailing the sun.
We are hailing that solar energy, that masculine energy.
It's a divine connection to a divine consciousness.
We're not like Muslims where we sit on our knees and we bow before God and put our ass up in the air like femmboys.
You know, they're a lunar God.
If you look in the esotericism of Islam, it's all lunar.
You know, the Aryan is, we believe in the sky, God.
We're from the sky.
We're not from here.
You know, and you can look at whatever you want, your Christian stuff.
You know, Adam and Eve, we came, we got kicked out of the garden.
You know, you can look at other stuff, but we're not from here.
We're not from here.
We're from the sky.
We're a higher people.
And, you know, when the Aryan met the Dravidian, you know, in the Indus Valley, you know, that they found the Dravidians, you know, sitting cross-legged under the trees, waiting for the gods to come.
And here we were arriving.
And so it is my belief that we're a higher people and we need to be supremacists.
We need to say white power.
We need to hail, but we need to explain why we're hailing.
We need to explain why we think white power.
And we need to actually normalize and explain and justify.
Well, not justify, that's a bad word.
I don't like that word.
But we need to start educating people on our worldview.
And as you said before, we're only going to recruit the most fervent and ardent supporters, the most Aryan men, the most ideologically strong men to our cause.
But that's all we want right now.
We are actually quite a while away from Ragnarok.
It will happen in our lifetime, but we are 30, 40, 50 years away from this really cataclysmic event that is going to happen.
And it is going to happen.
There is no other way.
And we need to be ready for that.
And at this stage, we need to have our planning.
Now, I don't believe that we should be doing what Adam Woffen was doing.
You know, I think that's some pretty dumb stuff.
And Adolf Hitler says in my encounter, man can have 10 rifles and 10 pistols.
It doesn't give him the mindset to fight.
And you can have your bunch of kids out in the bush shooting guns.
But that's actually all that does is lead you to getting cracked down sooner.
And so, especially in this country, we don't do any of that stuff.
And I understand America has a militia culture and Second Right, Second Amendment, and that's all good.
That's awesome stuff.
But you do need to be careful with those optics because we are not in a race war tomorrow or next month or next week.
That was that attitude.
Every day of your life's a race war.
You know what?
I'm just busting it.
Yeah, we are.
No, all life is.
You're 100% correct.
All life is a racial conflict.
And we're on a Petri dish and we're an organism and we're fighting other organisms for space on the Petri dish.
And it's never ending.
All life is war.
And all life is struggle, as we were taught.
But the question that you asked me was: can you just repeat it again?
Sure thing.
Making the case to the optics.
Yeah.
Non-ideological people, winning them over.
And yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So people are inspired by strength.
And we have the views that we have because strong men before us explicitly stated their views.
And if these men hadn't have done that, we might not be where we are.
But we are inspired by these men that came before us.
They had the strength to do it.
And we can objectively look at their faults and their pros and their cons, and we can look at how to improve upon the message or improve upon what they did or apply it to the 21st century.
But we are here today because we're inspired.
And the recruitment that we have had has proven that people are inspired by men that have the balls to say, well, this is actually the issue.
And my goal with the optics is to make it so rational and reasonable that there's not a sane white man in the West that can disagree with it.
They have to admit that they're an ideological coward.
They have to admit fundamentally that they know I'm right.
And they have to admit that the reason why they're not involved is because they want their cummies, they want their comfort.
And that's the point you want to push white men to.
You want to push them to the point where you say, you know, I say I'm a white supremacist and people go, oh, that's bad optics.
You know, we shouldn't be white supremacists.
You know, we're all equal.
We just want separate land.
And I say to people, no, white people are better.
White countries are better.
And that's why these non-whites want to come live with us.
And so I'll tell a non-white to their face, you think you're a white supremacist.
You think white people are better.
You hate your own kind.
That's why you're living with us.
And I'll say it to their face.
And I'll say it to the media.
And I'll say that our countries are better because they're full of white people.
And their countries are worse because they're not full of white people.
And Nigeria looks like Nigeria because it's full of Nigerians.
And Switzerland looks like Switzerland because it's full of Swiss.
And Swiss people are fundamentally better people than Nigerian people.
And so this to me is just common sense.
And it is extreme.
It's really extreme rhetoric.
But when enough of us are saying it, it might start solidifying in the minds of all of these normies.
And everyone wants these normies to wake up.
And it's like, oh, when are the normies going to wake up?
It's like, you got to wake them up, bro.
You got to burn crosses.
You got to get them a bit riled up.
You got to shake their foot a bit.
You got to tap them on the shoulder.
You had a bit too much to drink.
And you're the guy that had enough water last night.
And you're in bed shaking them, trying to get them out of this hungover stupor.
Like, come on, we got to get the Lord of the Rings meme.
The normie does not simply just wake up.
Yeah.
The reason why the government hates me and the reason why it hates our organization and our organizations down here in Australia is because they've worked out we're not shutting up.
They've worked out it doesn't matter what you do to us.
We're going to go out and we're going to do banner drops.
We're going to put posters up.
We're going to put stickers up.
We're going to cause, you know, we're going to burn crosses down at Lake Ilden, you know, or whatever it is, the Grampians.
You know, we're going to, we're going to rile you up.
We're going to get on the news.
We're going to, you know, we're going to piss you off.
And we're not going to, because suffocation is our enemy.
They want to kill us with silence.
And what Trump did quite effectively, if we learn the lessons from Trump versus Ron Paul, Ron Paul got suffocated.
That's why he didn't win the presidential election in 2012.
Trump knew that.
And that's why he was a little controversial.
It stayed him in the news cycle.
And we need to continue to stay in the conversation.
They want to slowly and quietly genocide us.
And we need white men to understand this.
So we need to be ramming our message and slamming it on the table and ramming this message down the throat of white men that they are slowly replacing us.
And we can't shut up about it.
We need to do it every single day until we've won.
And we need to mobilize and organize the men that we recruit through this process.
And our complacency is our enemy.
If we do this every day and we think of new and creative ways to do it, you know, then we will continue to stay in the cycle, in the conversation.
And the more powerful we get, the more they're forced to listen to us and the harder it is for them to lie about us because at the moment, we're very few.
And so they say we're extremists, we're insurrectionists, we're radicals, we're terrorists.
And the more popular we get and the more people we gain, the harder it's going to be to sell that to the public.
Because the public, when they see 15 guys, you know, in masks down at the beach, you know, doing a Roman salute and the government says, oh, these people are potentially terrorists.
The average show on the street goes, yeah, look, there's 15 of them.
They probably are pretty radical.
They're probably a bit nuts.
But when they see 100 or 200 or 500 or 1,000, the average guy goes, wait, 1,000 of them are terrorists?
There's 1,000 white terrorists in the country.
That's not possible.
And when they start seeing people in their area being involved in these organizations, they go, hey, I went to school with that guy.
He's a normal guy.
Why is he involved with them?
And so we're not going to wake up these radical leftists.
They're downward force.
They're demons.
They're already occupied.
There's a demon occupying their body.
There's nothing we can do.
They're gone.
That's the fat that's cut off the race.
Doesn't matter, right?
It's casualties of war, right?
We're going to lose white people in the battle and they're just going to race mix or be gay or whatever.
And good on them.
Right.
But these normies in the middle, we have to.
Mason says, a lot of people read Siege, but I don't think they understand it.
Mason says that we have to heighten the contradictions.
Doesn't mean go and commit a mass casualty event.
What that means is point out to the people that you're in one stool or the other.
Point out you're for white people or you're against.
Point out that the country's either white or it's brown.
Point out that you're either for white power or you're for Jewish or Chinese or Hispanic power.
There's no in-between.
And you can sit there on the fence, but you can only sit there for so long.
And we are pushing a narrative that, hey, white man, you're on our side or you're against us.
You're either for the mongrelization, destruction of our culture and people.
You're on the side of these trannies.
You're on the side of these pedophiles.
You're on the side of these freaks.
You're on the side of Mexican power or you're on the side of us.
And all of a sudden, a Roman salute in your neighborhood, it starts to become a little normal.
And we ought to normalize these things.
We can't hide away from them.
And it just feels good too, dear listener.
If you're listening to this right now, let one rip.
I'm going to let one rip right now.
Oh, God.
Hold them up.
It feels like, here we go.
Hold on.
This is a quote from a speech given to us by Adolf Hitler in 1924.
Let the judges of the state condemn us for our conduct at that time.
History, the goddess of a higher truth and a finer justice, will smile as she tears up their verdict and will acquit us of all guilt.
Amen.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, contrast the black power fist, but with the Aryan blessing, the open hand of blessing.
That's right.
You know, you have to explain these things to people.
And it's so obvious now, too.
Mr. Producer, who's a silent partner on this show, but he's in the chat.
He says, yeah, if we stay in the conversation, if we stay in the news, Jews will not be able to push our message down.
They're not going to be able to resist covering us.
They won't be able to stop kvetching about us, use Jewish weakness against them.
Now, of course, a lot of maybe not a lot, but a few Jews are listening to this to know the score.
And we know you're listening.
We know you're listening.
We see you there.
Hook knows.
But yeah, and that requires bold, brave men who are willing to say there are more important things to me than my individual personal sinecure, my retirement fund, or my little patch of law.
Yeah, people are worried about destroying their lives.
People are worried about.
Sorry, Sam, but people are worried about destroying their lives because of white nationalism and their views, even though they tell us that they really believe this stuff, right?
But guess what?
Your life is already ruined.
Jews run the world.
Your life is ruined.
Your children are going to be raped, murdered, eaten.
Worse, your life is ruined.
It's over.
I like what Mr. Producer said.
Their paper covers rock.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
Paper beats rock.
Our palstav wanted me to mention on the show this single guy up in Rochester, New York, lived alone.
His wife died years ago.
His girlfriend recently passed, went out to the grocery store or corner store, came back home.
14 and 16 year old black youths came and lit them on fire and killed them.
And it gets a little local news.
Those are the stakes.
Could happen to you anywhere in the sticks or in the big city.
The kid, I think it was in Chicago, that autistic kid that does, that gang of Negroes literally tortured and they all got acquitted.
They got like what?
Community service, maybe?
Yeah, light, very light punishment.
They're killing us.
They're raping us.
They're destroying us.
They're outpopulating us.
They're outbreeding us.
And white men are afraid to use the word nigger.
Yeah.
You know, and they wouldn't, they wouldn't be outbreeding us because, you know, it was the white man that taught them to wash their hands after they take a shit.
You know, I mean, exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thomas, you okay on time if we go a little bit longer?
We're at an I did want to bring up back on the optics debate to just close that one off.
Yeah.
There was a quote by someone who's been counter signaling me a lot lately, and I'm not going to give them a platform, but you probably know who I'm talking about.
And he said in a video recently counter signaling what we were doing, he said that, you know, why would you call yourself a Nazi just because the media is going to call you a Nazi anyway?
That's dumb.
You know, that's like, if I, if the media called you a faggot, would you start covering covering?
Sorry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just a quote.
Like, I know you're a family-friendly show, but it's dumb.
You know, and then the last part of it was, you know, why would you smear, I'll say feces on yourself to prevent your enemy from smearing feces on yourself.
And the very obvious response to this optics debate is we are national socialists.
We do advocate for white people.
We are not homosexuals.
If the media called us homosexuals, we would just say no.
We wouldn't go suck something, you know.
So like, it's just a really, it's just like the argument that these people make against us is complete logical fallacy.
That's in here.
It's the most 90 IQ smooth brain take.
We are national socialists.
And I'll finish with the point that the homosexuals, right, knew homosexuality was bad and they willed their morality into power by being openly homosexual.
So the evilness in society can have the courage to say, well, we're proud of our evilness.
We're proud of our wickedness.
We're proud of our sodomy.
We're proud of who we are.
And that actually forced these normies to accept them.
It works.
They've worked out a ritual.
They've worked out a routine where they can normalize.
They're even trying to normalize pedophilia now by just having the ball to say, well, I'm a pedophile and I'm proud.
That's what these pedophiles are saying.
And they're pushing the boundaries.
And if we don't even have the courage to say, well, actually, I'm a national socialist and I want to preserve the white race and advance the white race.
If we don't have the courage to say that, and there's pedophiles that have the courage to say that they're pedophiles, well, we've lost.
We have absolutely lost.
And so all these, all these so-called men that say that we shouldn't call ourselves what we are because it's like smearing feces on ourselves, they are playing by the enemy's morality.
They're trying to please the enemy.
They're hoping that if they say to the crocodile, you know, I'm the good one.
I'm good.
I'm not like these other ones.
And they feed us to the crocodile, that they won't get eaten.
And it's like, they'll just get eaten last.
You know, if we lose, they're definitely gone.
You know, so all these, all these cowards that think they can hide behind their soft rhetoric, they're done.
They're cooked.
If we're going to get all locked up and everything else, well, they're next.
Right.
Because it comes down to position of weakness.
It comes down to people who jump out of weakness.
Yeah.
That are willing to lie and people that are willing to tell the truth and we're willing to tell the truth.
And if the media calls you a Nazi, you should be a Nazi because they're not calling you a Nazi because they think you're great.
If the media calls you a homosexual, like you've done something right and you're probably going to get a million dollar book deal or something.
Now, alternatively, if they call you a Nazi, you're doing something right because you hold the right beliefs.
But faggots don't keep them up at night.
Nazis do.
Why wouldn't you be your enemy's worst nightmare?
Yeah, well, the reason why they ask you whether you're a white supremacist or whether you're a Nazi or a national socialist, the reason why they ask that is it's a form of public shaming.
So they're like, are you a bad guy?
And then immediately the conservative is like, no, no, I'm not a bad guy.
I subscribe to your morality.
And we need to say, we don't subscribe to your reality.
Yes, I am a national socialist.
No, we're the good guys.
Hitler was great.
He was amazing.
No, the Holocaust didn't happen the way you think it happened.
You have no power here.
Yeah, exactly.
You have no power here.
Your Jewish magic doesn't work on me.
And when you have the strength to do that, it makes other people go, it creates space.
It's like being the tip of an ideological spear and it pierces through the enemy's sludge and it creates space.
And so other people then have the strength to be like, well, that Tom Sewell guy is saying that.
I might say it as well.
And then this other guy says, hey, have you seen that?
Seen those other guys?
Oh, and that Tom Sewell guy, they're saying it.
And it gives them the strength.
And then eventually, you know, this is what Adolf Hitler did.
All these people were tiptoeing around the issue in Germany and Adolf Hitler just came out and said it.
We have been betrayed.
We have been stabbed in the back.
One in three Germans is an outright traitor and they betrayed us in the last war.
And we need a system that makes sure this never happens again because we're enslaved.
The inflation's bad.
These people aren't looking after us.
The entire aristocracy has failed us.
The entire upper establishment, capital establishment has failed us.
And the communists are planning a geopolitical and international throw takeover that's going to throw our nation into the pits of Bolshevism like Eastern Europe.
And he just had the balls to say it.
And he just kept saying it.
And this is the same model that we need to do.
Courage is contagious.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Courage is contagious.
And it's like that Christian identity guy that says, it is not hard to be brave in a room full of cowards.
It is not hard to be brave.
People say, oh, Tom, you're so brave.
I'm not brave.
I'm not brave.
I'm not getting shot at.
Bullets aren't coming my way.
There's a million men in the last century that have been a lot more brave than me.
I'm not risking really anything at the moment.
Maybe in the future, bullets will come our way.
Maybe they'll try to assassinate me or kill us or whatever it is.
But we're not getting shot at.
The police were nice to me when they arrested me.
They couldn't have been nicer.
They're kind of almost not afraid of us, but afraid to be mean to us.
I was surprised by that.
At first, I thought that maybe you were trolling or trying to get them in trouble.
Now listening to you over this hour, I realized you would never do that.
You're too straightforward.
But they really were.
The truth is our greatest weapon.
The truth is our greatest weapon.
Absolutely.
If they were mean to me, I would say in my video, they were mean to me, but they weren't.
They were overly nice.
And so I've got to process that in my own head.
Are they sympathetic?
Are they being told to be nice to us?
Either way, maybe half half.
You got to remember this system, the way it oppresses us and everything like that.
Ultimately, whatever next level of oppression they would bring against us, it's got to be carried out by guys like us, literally.
I mean, that's a, you know, the system needs white guys to enforce it.
So ultimately, the white guys, every white guy is susceptible to waking up and seeing it our way.
Well, on a long enough timeline, we win.
Yeah, absolutely.
Both things are limited to time.
Yeah, speaking of courage is contagious.
Tom, speaking candidly about his little dust up, I will admit that I got a visit from the system about two months ago and a typical thing that a lot of Americans have been facing.
And the guy was almost meek and apologetic for being there and didn't push.
He asked my name and then he said, we get these reports.
We got to follow up on them.
I got some standard questions for you.
Would you answer them?
And I just shook my head and he said, thank you for your time.
And he took off.
We have to hold firm.
It's not always like we're going to get these guys to join us.
Because listen, honestly, all of us sitting here, we're like louts, right?
We're like louts having a few beers and everything.
But the people that do have their hands on controls of power, those are white men.
Those are white men with families and wives and things like that.
And ultimately, they will see it our way too.
A lot of them will.
Yeah.
Tom, if you could resurrect one man to help us in this struggle other than Adolf Hitler, who would you resurrect?
Rudolf Hess.
All right.
Didn't see that one coming.
Yeah.
Good.
Good morning.
All right.
And we always save the toughest question for last.
Hope you're ready for it.
Would you, in the future, fight our very own potato smasher in a pro-white charity boxing or MMA match?
Which one's potato smasher?
He's the one with the glasses and the beard who just stepped away, probably.
Oh, yeah.
I'm happy to do like charity bouts or whatever.
Yeah, absolutely.
The guy who's off camera, right?
Yeah, I know.
He left right at the worst.
That's good.
That's good.
Yeah.
I have the willingness to fight.
I have the willingness to fight.
Yeah.
He didn't have the will.
He didn't have the will to power to not run to the restroom while we're recording the show.
That's all right.
He gets what he deserves.
All right.
Thomas, please plug where people can and should find your work.
The only place you'll find my work by me is on Telegram, and that's because I've been deleted off everything else.
But it is being shared.
There is stuff on BitChute.
There is stuff on YouTube.
You know, there are still things floating around.
But yeah, the only place you're going to find me is on Telegram, and it's at Thomas Sewell or Sewell is how my name is pronounced.
But just for the sake of phonetically spelling it, S-E-W-E-L-L.
So it's not like the black guy that you were mentioning at the start.
Yeah, S-E-W-E-L-L.
Yeah.
So Thomas Sewell.
Yeah.
All right.
And you might not be black, but you, my nigga.
Yeah.
I've seen a few comments lately, and apparently I'm the white Mike Tyson.
Smasher, you missed it while you stepped away.
We volunteered you to fight Tom in a MMA or boxing match for a pro-white charity cause at some point down the road.
So I knew he'd be game.
Yeah, I'm not joking either.
Maybe we will make that happen.
Thomas, the systems I is looking at you after the little affray, whatever the hell that means, that it got in down at a current affair.
Do you need or do you have a fundraising mechanism to help you in your virtuous defense?
Yeah, so on my Telegram, we have a description for the Monaro coin, which is a secure coin.
It's a little bit better than Bitcoin is from what I've heard.
It's very private.
And so we have that option there for those guys that are tech savvy and understand the crypto.
And also I'm regularly putting up the buy me a coffee sort of like GoFundMe thingies on my Telegram.
So it's currently taken down.
The buy me a coffee, which is a simple PayPal transaction if you're not too worried about the privacy.
Obviously, PayPal is not purely secure.
But if you want to buy me a coffee, I'll put a new link up on the page of a new one and I'll just keep remaking them as they get taken down.
And I haven't lost any of the fundraising.
If they get taken down, all the money is still in the PayPal, and that all goes to the legal fund for my defense.
So I'd really appreciate that.
Good luck on that.
Dear listener, please support Thomas and give him hell, buddy.
I mean, you can't lose, right?
If they throw the book at you and they heighten the contradictions and show that there's a double standard better for us.
And if you fight your virtuous defense and you win, that's a win for us too.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
It's win-win.
If they send me to jail, everyone will know it's unjust because they'll see the security camera footage and see that my colleague was assaulted pretty badly.
You can't just go around and choking people out, putting your hands on people's necks.
That's sort of a line in the sand that we have to draw.
And, you know, I'll just catch up on my reading.
I mean, there's plenty of white guys in prison that I'm sure might be interested in hearing what I have to say.
And, you know, I'll just catch up on my reading while I'm in there.
So, and if I don't go to prison and I'm found, you know, I'm judged fairly on the grounds that I acted, you know, on reasonable grounds, then the show goes on and we keep doing our mission and we don't get too caught up and distracted by court proceedings.
Hitler wrote Minecraft prison.
Yeah, maybe I'll get time to write as well.
Who knows?
All right.
Thomas, thank you so much for your time on this show, for your commitment to the cause, for everything that you do.
I am not personally religious, but it comes out.
God bless you.
And let us know, keep us posted how we can help.
And we will struggle until we can't struggle no more.
Hell victory.
We will proceed.
We will win.
Hail Victory.
Samuel, my friend.
Thank you.
Thank you, Coach.
A great show.
Great discussion.
Very exciting.
I thoroughly enjoyed it.
That's right.
And Potato Smasher, you're not too bad yourself.
Hey, thanks for having me on like every week.
Thomas, thank you for coming on.
You were a great guest.
Great stuff.
And my parting words are, when the goddess of struggle embraces you, embrace her back.
Hell yeah.
To our dear audience, apologies for the one-hour show this week.
We got started a little bit late, but I think we made up for it by jam-packing a lot of content into that one hour.
And Full House episode 83 was taped here on a soaking wet, rainy March 18th, now March 19th.
I guess that makes it like March 20th, 21st in Australia, 2021.
Follow us on Telegram at ProWhiteFam if you know what's good for you.
And tell your friends and family about us too.
Live boldly.
Don't be a faggot.
So to all white men and women with full or creeping awareness that yes, we are being dispossessed and exterminated.
And yes, the Jews are behind it.
We don't care too much about your tinkering around the edges with do-goodery.
Take the Sewell pill and live bravely and boldly.
Now, Thomas, I dropped you a note the other day offering the closing music to you.
You said you'd have to sleep on it.
Did you come up with one, brother?
Neo Fresco Sublimation.
That's the only one I can think of.
All right.
Yeah, that's what I want Ragnarok to be playing in the background, you know?
All right.
When we're marching through the streets, that's what's going to be playing.
Stopping our enemy.
Well, that beats Have a Drink on Me because I really do love it to have my ACBC.
Yeah.
Maybe next show.
All right.
We love you, fam.
We'll talk to you next week with our overflowing mailbox with new white life birth announcements and all the rest of it.
We'll make it a very special show next week, just like this one.
Next week, we have on both a kid who grew up in the foster care system and lived to tell the tale, as well as a father who tried to adopt and found the system too horrific.
So, you know where to find us.
We love you, fam.
Hail Sewell, and we'll talk to you next week.
Go ahead, Smith.
Shoot him up.
Wipe off.
All right.
It's the mind that makes decisions.
The unconscious has no critical judgment.
So it's coming from an entirely different standard.
If you want to make changes to belief systems, if you do it with the unconscious mind, you can make those changes very rapidly.
Really, what I want to do is I'm going to be able to do it.
And I'll take it down the steps.
We'll be using one of my senses.
I understand when you take the fault of the test and bring classes to our path, but I'll use sexes And we will come and not have directly with the right wing race,
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