Valkyrae joins Hassan to discuss her potential autism diagnosis, career updates from Cape Town, and a live-streamed colonoscopy fundraiser. The conversation shifts to chaotic sports debates, including Cubs conspiracy theories linking their victory to Donald Trump's presidency, and an interview with a MAGA family in Oklahoma who support military force against civilians. Ultimately, the episode critiques generational privilege and prosperity gospel mentalities while highlighting the hosts' diverse personal projects and controversial political discussions. [Automatically generated summary]
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Autism, Cake, and Straightness00:13:06
I'll be honest, if I was straight, we would be together.
Would you?
Would I date you?
If I was straight.
Oh, my God.
I'm just wondering.
Jesus Christ's sake.
Would you still have all of your characteristics?
Wait, you're asking me, would I still be a gay man?
Would you still like be fascinated with airplanes?
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of the Fear and Podcast.
It is a beautiful Monday here in the United States of America.
It's not a Monday.
Well, I know, but for those that are watching, it's a Monday, and we are joined by such an amazing guest.
Oh, my God.
It is.
Don't even starve with me.
I'm going to be serious.
Valkyray.
Whine about it.
Valkre, everybody.
Yes, I'm here to fill in for cutie.
Can I just-I've been waiting for the cameras to turn on.
Oh, I've also been waiting for the cameras to turn on.
I've been meaning to tell you this for quite some time.
You are one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen.
Shut up.
Oh, did he say this to Pokey last week?
No, I didn't.
Really?
No, no, no.
He has said it to Pokemon.
Wait, wait, wait.
I have, of course, but Pokey's beautiful.
No, no.
Performative.
No, he's not performative.
He's not performative.
But, Ray, you are so gorgeous.
And I just, I want to tell you this.
And I'm not lying either.
Okay, thank you.
Why did you say that?
I feel very connected to you.
Now you make...
Now you sound like that.
Do you say this to every guest?
No, I swear to God, I don't, but it's not because they're not.
I just, let's focus on you right now.
Focus on you.
Absolutely drop dead gorgeous.
And I'm not kidding.
I'm dead serious.
They think I'm joking and being.
I don't think you're joking.
I'm just seeing where this guy is.
Yeah, we're.
Like, it's going nowhere other than to say.
Do you think I could turn you straight?
Well, oh.
I mean, I'll be honest.
If I was straight, we would be together.
Would you?
Would I date you?
If I was straight?
Oh, my God.
I'm just wondering.
Jesus Christ.
Would you still have all of your characteristics?
Wait, you're asking me, would I still be a gay man?
Would you still like be fascinated with airplanes?
Of course.
Is that something that you find it attractive?
You're asking if you're not going to be able to be autistic.
I do.
Gray, stop.
Oh, my God.
Speaking of autism, you are all welcome.
Oh, thank you.
You're invited to come to Cutie's autism party.
Oh, my God.
Yay!
We're having an autism reveal party where she's going to go get officially tested.
Okay.
We're going to have a party.
I'm excited.
There's going to be a gender reveal cake, except it's an autism reveal cake.
Wow.
Would you be able to make it?
Because the doctor is going to be like, you need to be under medical supervision.
You've never seen levels of autism like this before.
You have to be studying.
I'm so sorry.
It's a common misconception.
Hassan.
Hassan, you could do it too.
We could do a double reveal.
I'm good.
What do you mean you're good?
Wouldn't it be fun, though?
It's like some things are better left.
We have two cakes.
He's been revealed, though.
Yeah, this is kind of like having a pregnancy reveal when you're eight months pregnant.
Yeah.
We kind of know.
Am I autistic?
I don't know.
The jury's out on that.
Wow.
But it would be so fun.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So then we'll have a cake, which will have the results, and then she'll do the cup thing.
What if she...
So what color is the cake going to be there?
Does autism have an official like flag or color or stamp or something?
I think it was a, it's a puppy.
It just comes out and it's part of the LGBTQ plus A.
I don't know.
It's the A.
Oh!
Oh!
Wait, double autism.
Autism flag is hype!
Wait, wait, wait.
Why is it just gay?
Yeah, no, that's gay.
Nah, no way.
No.
Take it.
There's no way.
What do you mean?
Take it down.
Nah.
Hassan's like.
Just for autism.
Hold on.
Hold on.
What if she passes and doesn't have autism?
It's like somebody.
It's like.
Well, we don't call it passing autism.
We're not costing.
That's not passing.
It's not a bad thing to be autistic.
No, of course not.
I feel like I may be a little bit.
I got the pass, right?
Look claims.
Everything's on a spectrum, okay?
Right?
Yes.
I mean, we all lay on a spectrum somewhere.
Sexuality spectrum.
Autism's cool.
It's pass fail.
It's a binary.
It is.
It is.
When somebody's autistic, I'm like, damn, fuck yeah.
I actually, I actually love cutie.
Yeah.
I love cutie.
She's got 11 special interests.
Yeah.
If you're autistic, fuck yeah.
Fuck yeah.
That's what we should do.
Autism.
Fuck yeah.
I do need to ask her when she's gonna go get her official diagnosis.
Autism, fuck yeah.
But at the end of the day, it doesn't change anything.
Is it?
It doesn't change.
No, no, no.
It doesn't.
I love them.
Autism.
Fuck you.
Autism.
Fuck yeah.
I'm going to call her.
Wow.
I think she'll answer right now.
I think she's crying.
Okay, let's see.
I think she'll cutie cutie.
Cutie, what?
Can we make our next merch if you guys test officially autistic?
Autism, fuck you.
I agree.
Hello, cutie.
Cutie is Austin Cheryl from the Fear Ann podcast.
Oh, yes.
You're on the Fear Ann podcast.
Oh, my gosh.
What's this?
What is that?
Oh, come on.
It's your second favorite podcast, Cutie.
Come on.
Let's be real.
Question for you.
When are you getting your official autism diagnosis done?
Because I did invite the boys to your party that I'm throwing.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Do you think we do it?
Because I think I really want people to wear a certain color if they think I'm autistic or not.
Oh, yeah.
We were just looking up if there was an official color or like an autism symbol or a flag or something, but we couldn't really find one.
Oh, it's a puzzle case.
I forget what it's called now because Asperger's isn't politically correct anymore.
But I want a certain color if people think I just have that type of autism.
So then they get extra points.
Oh, and then we can film that TikTok where we go up and ask people, what do you think cutie has?
Yeah, because let's be honest, it's not going to.
It might reveal a lot of things.
I've always thought you were normal, cutie.
Hey, fuck.
What do you mean by normal?
That's not what I meant.
Oh my God.
We're keeping that in.
No.
We're keeping that in.
That's not what I meant.
You guys know I meant it.
You can be that.
You can be normal.
I think you're abnormal.
Everything is normal.
I think you're abnormal, but it has nothing to do with autism.
What I mean is, like, you said there's something wrong with you, and I don't think there's anything wrong with you.
I think you're perfectly normal and normal being everything.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
So, okay, great.
It's Univo.
It's natural.
It's great.
It's fantastic.
Okay.
So, I've got a question.
What I've described as autism spectrum disorder level one.
Okay.
Now, what if you get there and you don't, you find out you don't have it.
It's kind of like, I don't know, like running for election and then everybody's there on election night.
And it's like.
It's still, it's still, it's, it's a way for her to learn more about herself.
At the end of the day, it's fine whether she has it or not.
Let's be real.
She has autism.
Well, okay, cutie, what do you think about having a reveal cake for Hassan as well?
Like a double, like a shit.
Yeah, a double reveal.
Oh, I don't know if you want to share it with him, though.
I mean, we could do a shared party if he pays for everything.
What?
Cutie, I have his credit card.
We'll just do it.
If he wants to rent out the Chuck E. Cheese, you know, we'll just put it on his card.
Wait, we're doing it at Chuck E. Cheese.
Full pause, full stop.
It's at Chuck E. Cheese.
Well, I haven't picked the location.
Cutie, I'm letting you know right now.
You're not in the process of planning it.
You are not part of it.
Okay.
I am going to make your cake.
I'm going to get the venue.
And it's going to be a lot of fun.
But I need you to get your actual, like, go to the doctors and go get.
I know, but if I don't have autism, isn't that going to be a little sad a little bit?
That's what I was.
I just have OCD and ADHD, but no tism.
Well, I'm pretty sure you've got a little tissue.
No matter what.
We're going to see that.
I'll love you no matter what.
No matter what.
If I do have tism, you guys aren't going to be mean to me, are you?
No.
No.
Like, I'm not going to get like bullied.
Like, I can be a part of the jokes, but I won't be like outside of the jokes.
I'm going to keep bullying.
She's asking if she'll ever be me.
No, you'll never be me, cutie.
Don't worry.
Nobody will ever make fun of you like me.
Oh, my God.
Nobody will ever be me.
You will never be made fun of like me.
Don't worry.
Wait, I heard you're like the funny one of the pod now.
I mean, a lot of people.
You know what, Cutie?
I'll talk to you later.
Yeah, that's what I heard.
Okay, love you, bye.
Love you, Kitty.
Any final words?
I love you guys.
I like you.
What happened?
I started that campaign.
Yeah, no, that's where I heard it.
Yeah.
Wait, people have been, this message has been going around.
Yes.
Wait.
Listen, so they frequently liken us to the members of Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
Yeah.
Which I think is apt.
That's a nice compliment.
It's a very nice compliment.
Well, they are kind of noxious nightmare people, but it's very funny.
And, you know, I always kind of get like the, oh, no, Will, you're the, yeah, it's funny, funny fight.
And I was like, you know what?
I think I'm the glue guy.
I think I'm the shortstop.
I think Austin is the real funny man.
You're very funny.
And then I double down by saying, I don't think this audience gives him enough credit for being the funny man because I think he is constantly creating little hyperbolic.
Oh my God.
Just let him have it.
No.
Just let him have it.
Yeah.
You're ugly.
That's why everybody's so ugly.
Oh, my God.
He couldn't even hold it back.
Did he call me ugly?
He doesn't mean it.
He doesn't mean it.
Yeah.
He doesn't mean it.
He's fat.
Yeah.
Big ass can't get through the door.
Yeah, man.
Don't talk about his hips like that.
I'm proud of you.
You got real gay there, Toris.
For the record, there's nothing wrong with being fat.
But in this particular record, unless it's me.
There's nothing wrong with it.
I'm just pointing out the obvious.
He's not fat.
You're so cooked out.
No, Oh, yeah.
I feel like Austin's always testing the boundaries of what's going to get him actually canceled.
No!
No, I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
No, I'm not.
Moving on.
Okay, moving on.
I'm not.
What's going on?
No, no, no.
Let me finish.
Yes.
And being the funny guy, I've recently felt.
Here we fucking go.
I have felt the weight on my shoulders has gotten very high.
I am hoping.
Wait, really?
Is it weighing on you carrying the pot?
It is.
No, no, no.
The night before the podcast, I'm like, I was a little tired today.
I was tired today.
And I walked in the door and I was like, Austin, you are the funny one.
What am I doing?
You got to fucking show up and be funny today.
Yeah, you have to.
You have to be there.
I have to be on my AK.
I'm going to go to the cornerback.
You know what I mean?
Took him less than half of a millisecond to become the person.
He's ooding.
He's oo daying.
He came into power.
Like a sleeping power.
Oh my God.
What have you done?
Look, guys, everybody knows that.
I'm just kidding.
And I'm not actually that funny.
No, you're funny.
You're really funny.
I'm just farming yourself.
He's farming you.
Okay, well, anyway, let's go back.
You know what Hassan has become?
The phone guy.
I did just see you pull out your phone about a minute ago.
Yeah, no, I just saw how you're a fan, aren't you?
I am a fan.
Yeah, you know, I've been seeing the community, the Fear Ant community, calling you out for being on your phone all the time during the podcast.
Okay, there's a couple different reasons, but I can explain today's reasoning.
But usually it's because there's constantly a lot of deliveries being made to the podcast while we are live streaming, like coffee and things of that nature that I have to open up.
Marsh, did you order something?
No, it's Austin.
Austin usually orders coffee or food.
Cold Weather Cocaine Documentary00:03:44
At least I'm not on cocaine.
I have to.
That is true.
At least you're not on cocaine.
Why would you say that?
What does that have to do with it?
Or caffeine?
He's saying that his vice isn't as bad as it could be.
That's right.
I could be on meth.
Okay, well, regardless, at least he's not ordering meth.
I'm opening the door.
I'm opening the door for delivery.
But today, the reason why I was on my phone is because I was looking up.
My producers are out purchasing winter boots because tomorrow at very early in the morning, by the time this podcast comes out, I will have been back in Los Angeles, inshallah.
I will be in Murderapolis, also known as Somaliapolis, also known as Minneapolis for a general strike that's taking place.
And, you know, there's, I'm very excited to participate in this.
You know, a bunch of locals hit me up and asked if I would attend.
And I said, of course, absolutely.
It's minus 45 degrees.
Yeah.
It's going to be minus 45 degrees.
So we've been panic buying like, you know, thermals, outerwear, and, you know, specific, like, specific gear that you need to, I guess, survive in the frozen tundra.
And I didn't realize how bad it was going to be.
Will, you have a lot of experience in this, but the reason why I was looking at the phone is because apparently I don't have like proper uh insulated boots.
Like, yeah, negative beyond negative like 20, it's shockingly cold.
And I was just making sure that my friend was prepared in a way that he wouldn't potentially incur frostbite or something.
Will, where have you been that where you've experienced this cold?
North Pole.
Utah.
And I believe Montana.
Montana gets that cold.
Montana gets cold.
Yeah, on top of the mountains, too.
So yeah.
Yeah, but it's, I got, I got a Yushanka.
I got Russian military gear.
It's an overcoat that I used to wear back in the day.
And you said I can't even wear like a regular Balak lava.
I have to have like, I can't have no, you can't have anything that like any exposed skin means you'll get frostbite or like your skin will start peeling off apparently.
So I need like insulated bollock lavas and things like that.
Your nose hairs are going to break.
Ooh.
They're going to freeze instantly.
What about your beard?
I'm going to be out here like aging.
No, no, no.
It's things that get wet.
Because your nose would be there's like an inherent level of moisture just to your brows.
What about eyes?
Your eyes are going to be very like his skin is going to be dummy dry, but your eyes will be okay.
You should wear some kind of like thing.
Oh, I got glasses.
Hey, why don't you cancel the trip?
No.
And not only am I not canceling the trip, I actually was invited.
This is a double story.
I was invited to Utah for Sundance.
Oh.
A documentarian who informed me that I actually made it into a documentary where my friend who just came back from Gaza as a doctor was, you know, he details his experiences out there and they're unveiling it at Sundance right now or unveiling it.
What's the premiering it?
Screening it?
I don't know.
They're screening the documentary at Sundays.
Premier.
Premiering the documentary at hold on.
That's so exciting.
I need a huge favor.
What?
Since you're going to Utah.
I'm not going to Utah.
I'm going to Minneapolis instead because it's happening.
Oh, it's, I see.
Yeah, I'll pull up the details.
Can you stop by Utah on your way home and do the pod with QD?
No.
Second favor.
Can you guys come online about it next week?
I will be online about it next week.
Yeah.
What day?
Any day.
As long as it's before Wednesday.
Physical Touch and Prostate Lumps00:10:15
What do you think?
You're going to be out of town.
Wait.
Have you told them the big news?
Oh, yes.
No.
No.
I'm hosting on the red carpet with Glad at the Grammys.
Yeah, I did hear about this.
I get to, I got asked by Glad, which is a wonderful charity, that Will and I had the, we hosted on the red carpet.
And Glad asked me to co-host with a wonderful gentleman by the name of Anthony Ramos.
I'll be co-hosting and interviewing people on the red carpet.
I'm very excited.
That'll be fantastic.
Hell yeah.
That's so exciting.
The documentary is called American Doctor.
Oh, I thought you were going to cancel that.
I was like, what are you doing?
No, I was trying to pull up the documentary called the name of the documentary called American Doctor.
When three American Doctors, Palestinian Drugs, or Ashana.
Can I be honest?
You scared the shit out of me because all I saw was doctor and I thought you got like results back.
And I was like, oh, God.
Oh, my God.
He's got cancer.
It's cancer.
No, I don't have it.
Wait, he doesn't go to the fucking doctor.
That's not true.
I do go to the doctor.
When was the last time you went to the doctor?
A couple weeks ago.
Really?
What did you tell me?
Regular checkup.
Really?
Did you touch your balls?
I get blood work done.
I don't get my balls touched.
No.
You know what?
That's weird.
Doctors have stopped doing that.
Wait.
I'm pretty sure you have to do that.
No, for a physical?
Well, it's weird for me.
So physicals, when you're younger, Austin, and your doctor has seen your balls too many times and is like, yeah, we'll wait till.
And he knows you're fine.
My doctor's a woman.
We'll wait.
She knows you're okay.
Well, I haven't.
Okay, so here's the deal.
This is what's thing.
I go for a yearly physical.
Right.
Right.
And I, you know, physical, you're supposed to, they'll feel around you and they'll take your blood and they'll make sure everything's okay, like on a basic level, right?
And part of the part of a physical is they usually feel your balls to make sure you don't have testicular cancer, right?
Or if they're looking for lumps in your balls.
The thing is, you have a lump.
No, no.
Oh, my God.
Hassan.
I don't know.
Hassan, he hasn't felt my balls before.
I'm surprised.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
Wait, really?
Have you felt Will's balls?
No.
No.
What?
No.
Will.
No.
Do you have any friends that have touched your balls?
Will has any?
I feel like I have a feeling.
I'm sporting school.
Everyone.
Will he touch my penis and balls on numerous occasions?
He has touched my penis all day.
Is he cancer-free?
Over there.
So my thing is, I think it would be really awkward to have to ask the doctor to show them my penis.
Wait.
I'm what?
So, like, if you're in a physical, right?
I feel like it's a little awkward to.
Hey, can you check down here?
Yeah.
No, you, you don't think about it that way.
Because you know how many times people get waxed down there, bleached down there?
It's, they're used to it.
They've seen many wheelies.
Especially if you have like a concern.
Yes.
I don't.
It would be nice.
You're saying it'd be nice to be noticed.
No, I'm not saying I don't have a concern, but like, what if they feel something that I don't feel?
Would you ask the doctor, what do you think?
Well, no.
Just go next physical drop dragon.
Come on.
One out of ten.
What do you think?
But I think some doctors, because I've had my prostate looked at before, and it was a weird experience.
Six and three quarters.
They had to bring in backup because the doctor, like, for some reason, it's protocol to not be alone.
They had to bring backup?
Well, yeah, because I asked for, I don't know, I was having a panic attack about my prostate.
Anyway, regardless.
Wait, you were like, can you please get up in my guts?
And then the doctor.
I think maybe perhaps it's enlarged.
And they went in and they were like, I need a second opinion.
No, they brought in somebody else because the female doctor couldn't be in there alone.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
And then they, so they brought in a man.
What?
I don't know.
Maybe past experiences.
How many deep do they go?
I mean, they're just kind of in and out.
Is it like booty boot camp?
Is it tough?
I mean, it was fine.
Did it feel like, is it, are we talking like around the rim or are they going to be able to get some of the things that we're going wait how deep do they go?
How far are they going in?
Like, here, say stop.
Okay.
Wait, what's the procedure like?
Is it a thing?
Say stop, Austin.
A little bit more.
Say stop, Austin.
A little bit more.
That's good.
This?
No, no, no, a little bit back, back, back, back.
They have to, they touch prostate.
Right there.
Good.
Good, good.
That's how far they go in?
Yeah.
Bro, that shit is lodged in there.
Yeah.
Yeah, they have to touch your prostate.
Yeah.
Does it feel good when they touch your prostate?
No, it doesn't feel good, Jasan.
Let's make lemonade out of these.
Lemonade out of these lemons.
I actually, speaking of cancer and the booty, I am talking with the American Colorectal Cancer Society tomorrow about my fundraiser that I've been planning with them called Will Nef Puts His Ass on the Line, where I will do a colonoscopy on camera with the help of the Colorectal Cancer Alliance to raise money and to try and take the stigma.
The same stigma that you guys are expressing right now.
I wouldn't say I was stigmatizing.
I was fascinated.
Yeah.
He's very curious.
A little too curious, huh?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you'll get a lot of these answers when I do this, but part of it is I'm going to set goals to nominate other male creators.
And you've already nominated yourself.
Well, I think I've had a colonoscopy before.
Right.
And they found a precancerous polyp.
Yeah.
Yep, they did.
They did.
They went in there.
They found a precancerous polyp.
They took it out.
It's no big deal.
Now, precancerous polyps, they told me as a 90% chance of not becoming cancer, 10% chance of becoming cancer.
That being said, that's where they start polyps.
I was 20.
This is a few years ago.
I was 20, 28, I think, 28, 27, 20.
Oh, so many years.
So now a lot of people have to get a colon cancer screening at 45.
I think that's the recommendation.
The age is going down.
Well, the age is going down.
I have to actually get one.
They recommended one seven years later.
I'm going to bump it up a little bit, I think, because why not?
Well, hey, you can get it done in the next few months.
That's what I'm saying.
Marsh has already signed up.
Well, yeah.
That's being cleaned up.
Wait, like, I'm filming you guys getting it.
Wait, this is so exciting.
There's someone over here.
So.
You're all about raising money for a good person.
Where are you looking at?
Is it like, who are you talking to?
So anyway, like, awake?
I'm going to be asleep.
I'm taking that propathol.
They give you propetol.
It's the drug that killed Michael Jackson.
This is the...
How many times have we had this conversation on the podcast?
It is.
It's a drug that killed Michael Jackson, but he was using it for sleeping.
Oh.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
So anyway, so he was using it to nap, but it does fucking, it's a really fucking good nap.
Yeah.
Right.
And they, they put you under and they give you, and then they stick a camera up your butt.
Why do you so I'm doing you have to be asleep for that?
I'm doing mine awake.
Is it super deep in to yes, and it's scary.
So you're going to feel it all up in your guts?
Yeah, you don't.
Well, you will feel it.
You'll feel the camera.
Will you feel pain or is it just uncomfortable?
I don't know.
I'm going to find not many people do it on sedated.
Dude, what if you nut?
I'm not going to.
Ray, what do you want to talk about?
We're moving on.
I'm actually curious.
What is it?
Is my nut?
Yeah, like you can't go back.
It's like slithering in there and it just tickles the prostate a little too much.
You're like, then I will raise money.
If you come, I'll donate.
Can I be honest?
A lot of people have misconceptions about the prostate, right?
It's kind of like these.
So respectfully.
Okay.
Where is this going, Austin?
You have a vagina.
That is true.
Now, for women, especially, it's a mental thing to get into the moment, right?
So like, it's not like, it's not just like you can just, you know what I mean?
Like when it goes in there and everything, it's not like, it's not like you have to be in the mood mentally.
It's a mental thing.
You're not just going to like fucking hit the spot and then, oh, you know what I mean?
It's a mental thing.
It's not just entirely true.
Really?
Yeah.
Girls are horny.
Well, I know you're horny, but you have to be like, no, no, no, no, that's not true.
Some girls are just fucking horny.
Well, I know, but you're describing, you're proving my point.
They have to be in the mental state to be horny.
Oh, I see what you mean.
You see what I'm saying?
I thought you were saying that you have to like mentally get yourself aroused first before you can like.
No, women are very sexual people.
Yeah.
Oh, no, I know.
Yeah.
I know.
You know.
Yeah, I know.
You know, too.
I mean, I don't know, really, but I know.
I heard it.
You want to find out?
I mean, sure.
Okay, anyways.
Anyways, this is a fever dream episode right now.
Yeah.
This is really curious.
Anyway, what were you saying?
No, no, no.
You were saying you weren't.
So you're like, Ray, you have to be like, yeah, going in, but I was trying to bring and connect everybody together.
So you have to be mentally.
You're not just going to stick something up your butt and all of a sudden it's going to happen.
But let's, yeah, that's it.
That's what I wanted to say.
Okay.
Okay.
Right.
That's what I was trying to say.
Ray.
So what do you want to?
Okay.
Keep going.
Wait, so what do you mean by that exactly?
So with the, with Will here getting his, he's going to be awake.
Yes.
And he's not going to be sexually aroused.
Exactly.
That's my thing.
That's my thing.
It's not, it's not going to be.
Unless that's something that arouses him.
It's not going to feel good.
No, not at all.
No, not at all.
No.
And if they're recommending you to be asleep, why are you going to be awake?
Well, because I want to talk to the doctor during the process and make it as informative as possible.
Question for content, too.
They are also going to be.
They're awake.
What if it's like too tight?
Because like you won't be relaxed.
I mean, that's part of the thing.
That's a good question.
Well, they'll probably give you what they gave me.
If you clench up, what if you break the cabinet?
Yeah, what if you break the cable?
No, no, it won't happen.
They'll give you fentanyl.
No, you'll be fine.
It is probably too tight.
It's a probably.
Yeah, right.
You're a slut.
What?
My God.
I think what you're doing is fantastic.
Thank you.
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And I think we need to spread more awareness.
I think people should be getting cryoscopies.
You need to spread the colours.
I think everybody, if you're out there, get a colonoscopy.
Yeah.
But we don't have health insurance.
So it's like, fuck, like, what am I supposed to, you know what I mean?
When is the stream?
Well, I'm going to plan a lot of that tomorrow because we're trying to find a doctor that wants to just do it.
Not just is willing to do it, but will also banter with me because the whole point is like we're trying to take the stigma out of this and show a very human side that this isn't something you should be embarrassed of.
And it's very limited, like the invasiveness of it is not something you should actually do.
It's fine, chat.
We all pool.
Also, Will is like deeply connected to the issue.
There's a good reason for it.
It's not like he's, you know, out of nowhere decided, let's do colonoscopy.
No.
Why, why did you want to do that?
My closest family member was diagnosed with terminal colorectal cancer and actually is beating it, which is fantastic.
Yeah, yeah.
But I did a little boxing promotion.
The name doesn't really matter.
And I trained for six months because I wanted to raise money for the colorectal cancer.
You know effort and uh, we were going to bring in my cousin with his Mayo flag and stuff like that, and then that event didn't happen.
So we immediately were trying to find another way that I could potentially raise awareness.
Comes with the flag and everything, like I come in my boxing tray yeah yeah, I think that could be cool.
That could be so sweet.
Ray, I have always admired you for being like one of.
I mean, you're just you're the it girl.
You are that girl.
So what are you?
What have you been up to lately?
Like what the are you doing?
Like you, I just like fuck.
You know what I mean?
There's a lot going on this year.
On the cover of magazines, you were like you had gym shark at one point.
Like you're voguing your your, you're like in movies, you're voice acting.
Like what the is up with Ray in 2026?
Yeah well um, I am freshly 34 34 so yes, it was just my birthday.
So I kind of had an epiphany, you know, one of those like midlife crisis things where it's like, what am I doing with my life?
I'm really gonna be streaming 11 years now.
How am I feeling about this?
I want to go outside, do things.
So there's a lot that's going on this year, um, doing fashion week in New York, amazing.
Um gonna be in another movie, oh my gosh.
Um making a video game like a Cozy.
A Cozy, it's that.
It's gonna be like a cozy game, I may.
Yeah, we're working on, we're working, working on some.
I don't know if my voice is that cozy.
Why did you change the voice?
If I need a Trump impression, i'll get you brought it up a little bit.
Oh, i'm gay.
No, if you go to the beginning of this episode, you'll see Austin was kind of doing the Trump head tilt when he was doing the intro.
I noticed on it I was, i'm Lebanese, said his own personality.
All right, let me try to do you do laugh like that.
All right, give me, give me a voice line other than uh, oh fuck, I don't even know what the fuck do you say?
Chatter, chatter.
That's what I sound like.
Chatter, yatter.
All right chatter, I don't know, I am gay.
Continue ray continue, you know that's a banger.
Continue continue, I mean.
No, it's.
I'm ashamed of both of you.
Today we have a guest, I know, I know, pull it together, continue.
No, i'm, i'm.
Pretend, i'm Cutie.
Okay, i'm Cutie today to defend herself.
That's crazy.
As you were saying you're gonna be in a movie, I mean no, it's.
Uh, I just want to do.
I'm going to Africa for the first time.
Yeah, i'm going to cape, Cape Town, Africa.
Cape Town.
Yeah.
So that's where the movie's being filmed.
And it's, and then I'm having extra.
I'm like come out to go film things because I have this YouTube series called Touching Grass.
Cutie hates the name of it.
And I wish I could change it, but I can't now.
Everything's taken for a series.
I can't.
Why does she hate it?
Because she hates me.
Oh, no, she didn't.
Speaking of hating me, I just want to clarify: we don't actually hate each other, even though she did prank me last week with slime.
I don't know if you saw that episode, but I saw it.
Yeah, I remembers my first ever solo pod episode.
I'm nervous all the time doing these episodes and stuff.
So I had prepared to interview Ludwig.
I had questions, you know, in my head and stuff.
I was prepared.
And then in walks slime, mind you, never met him, like actually met him in real life.
So I had no research done.
I was not prepared at all.
And apparently, this guy, you know, like all I know about him is that he's funny and bald.
That's all I know.
Right.
And it turned out to be a banger episode.
It was great, blah, blah, blah.
But the segment with courage was absolutely fucking hilarious.
Yeah.
I didn't even know.
The context of the video.
Yeah.
And I also didn't realize that was Stavi's pod.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which I had no idea.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, I met Stavi before.
So it's like, I didn't know.
So it came together.
Yeah.
It was his favorite.
It was a fish out of water thing, though.
Like, Ray, we should just do that as a series.
Just throw Ray, just surprise you.
And oh my God.
There you are.
Now I'm expecting it.
I did kind of want to prank you guys by having Slime come here.
That would have been insane.
I thought of it literally this morning.
I was like, man, that would have been a really fun, like double prank thing.
Am I coming on Wine About It?
Please, please.
Cutie asked me today.
She was like, so what would you like to do?
Like, do you want to come to Utah, film, or do you want to have guests?
I was like, I'm sure I can find a guest next week.
I genuinely wish I would be there in a heartbeat.
I'm just out of town.
I know you're busy.
I'm not even busy.
I just usually Mondays at night.
Sorry.
It doesn't matter.
We're locked in here.
Okay.
I thought I was also invited.
No, no, no, no.
I'm really sad because I really want to be a part of it.
I feel like this is my only opportunity to be on the podcast.
Only on Wine Tabernacle.
Has she never asked you guys?
No.
No.
I've done it.
I did it all.
You've been on it a couple times.
I've been on it twice.
I was like, it's been years.
I think I was a five.
No, I've been on it twice, actually.
No, you were on with me because you guys drink wine on Wine About It, right?
We have a couple times, but we don't really drink that often.
No, we don't.
You know what I want to do for our episode?
Have you ever heard the Torda Franzia?
Nope.
I'll bring a stationary bike and we have to drink a bag of wine while one of us is on the bike.
I love that.
That's a great idea.
Why don't we just get messed up for one episode?
I'd like that.
That would be so fun.
A drinking episode with you.
You just said you're out of town that day.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
Is there a day that you would be here?
I'll be here after the episode's recorded.
Oh, wait, you're making it seem like you're specifically.
I could be available the next week, though, for the next week's episode.
Cutie is considering staying longer, by the way.
I don't know if you guys know that.
Oh, wow.
Well, I've been trying to convince her to stay longer because she hasn't been able to get the proper rest that she's needing to do that.
I actually think that tooth surgery.
Yeah, she chipped her tooth.
She's getting things pulled and filled and everything.
I think Cutie needs to take more like she hasn't been able to rest.
I literally told her this.
I was like, Cutie, you need to fucking step away and rest.
She can't stop working.
She's a workaholic.
Yeah.
She is.
She's always working.
Nothing.
Hear me out.
I think she needs to stay there longer and actually rest because what if she comes home and then she's like, I got to go to Utah for another three months.
That's true.
What the fuck is going on?
I mean, you know how she is.
Yeah.
What are we doing here?
You are not a human being, Hassan.
You are working.
Can you empathize a little bit more?
You don't have any fucking.
All you do is work, work, work, politics, politics, politics.
Tell him.
Yeah.
Tell him.
Exactly.
No.
100%.
No.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
Anyways, so yeah, Will.
Would love to have you on the pod next week.
Thank you.
It would be so fun.
I'll come on.
Hassan, you can come if you can free up your schedule, but that's not going to happen.
If it's like filming before my stream or after my stream, it'll probably be.
We usually do in the mornings.
Yeah.
But if it's early, I can do it.
Really?
If it's early enough, yeah.
Fuck.
They're both.
I have fucking FOMO, Ray.
This is the best.
I'll pay for your flights.
Ray, oh my God, I'm not broken.
We need to.
No, but it's more like a because you're using your time to come to us.
Enough about him and his tragedy.
What girly things could we do during our wine about it episode?
So usually cutie is like the girly.
You know, she brings all the pop culture, and I just listen.
I nod my head.
Okay, but what if we do something special?
Okay.
Oh, oh, my gosh.
No, I like.
You want to dress up?
What if we, oh my God, crazy idea.
What if we went to the abbey afterward?
I think it'd be a special episode.
What?
Will?
I think we should go to the abbey.
Yes.
I think we should go to the abbey right now.
Try brunch.
Yes.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
We can hit up the cast of heated rivalry.
But not the Russian one.
Have you seen Heated Rivalry?
You know, I think I can get in contact with their agency.
Yeah, I know them.
Wait, you know them too?
Let's do it.
You know, these are the two.
The three best friends that anyone's ever had and only us and no homosexual men.
Except for the cast of heated heart.
Except for him.
Yeah.
Not the Russian one.
We're going to miss you, though.
Ray, would you book me first class if you flew me down?
I'm just curious.
I will always book you, business up.
I appreciate you.
Always.
You would go in stowage.
No.
Look at his face.
I wouldn't do that.
I flew first class this morning.
His FOMO is so high right now.
He would literally, he would walk from Portland, Oregon to Los Angeles to make it to this thing.
That's, that's, I, I have, I, you know why I'm busy?
Can I tell you?
Yes.
I usually keep my secret life private, my private life secret.
My life secret.
I don't even know.
I just don't talk about a lot of things.
But I've got a friend coming to visit and he's taking down all my Christmas decorations.
And I have to be there.
It's one of my best friends and we haven't seen each other in a long time.
Bring your friend here.
No, it's too much.
Why do you have a friend coming over to take down your Christmas present?
I have seven Christmas trees.
I don't know.
Why aren't they still up?
Because he hasn't had a chance to come.
We have a friend.
Why is it the one guy that can do it in America?
It's my friend.
It's Kirk.
He comes out and he helps me.
Oh, yeah.
And he comes out.
Kirk sounds like a tree kind of guy.
He's my man.
Like, he's my man.
But he does the man.
He comes out three times a year and he organizes my garage, cleans out my pantry.
Do you pay him?
Yes, of course.
Of course.
And we're also friends.
Like, he's my best friend.
But I also, of course, I pay him.
I make it worth his time.
What the fuck are you saying right now?
Don't act like you fucking put that tree up from Christmas and took it away.
Oh, yeah.
I really saw you hauling that fucking tree out.
Where did it come from?
Did you go out and cut down that tree, Hassan?
No, you didn't.
No, my brother did.
Yeah, you did.
Well, this is my brother.
This is the version of my brother.
But I didn't pay him.
Well, you should have.
You exploited his fucking labor.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
That's crazy that you didn't pay him.
That's fucking wild you didn't pay him.
In fact, aren't you like a socialist or something?
Yeah.
What the?
He's my brother.
Yeah.
Yeah, but he's still doing labor for me.
Oh, my God.
That's what they say.
That's what corpos say.
Bo, you're my brother.
That's what they say.
Is he actually defending paying his friend to do handyman tasks around the house?
Yes.
Of course I am.
I'm defending it because I think we should elevate each other.
And we should, you know what I mean?
I think it's a good thing.
You should always pay people for their time.
Hassan, if you came over and you looked at a few boxes, I'd cut you a check.
Really?
I would.
Okay, I don't believe that you would be able to do it.
I would.
I'd say, Hassan, thank you for your time.
I want to pay you for your labor.
He's like, oh, I can't accept it.
Like, imagine if I charge Christian for staying here when you use my house like a hotel.
Like, that'd be fucking insane.
No, it's weird when you charge.
It's only, it's only if you have to offer.
Yeah.
By the way, did you hear that he's decided he's not going to stay with you anymore?
Why, because he's staying with you?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, actually, I haven't.
I'm actually staying at a hotel.
Oh.
Wait, why?
Can I be so real?
He doesn't like staying.
No, I love a hotel room.
I think a lot of people can relate with this.
I love a hotel room because I just, it's something about being alone in a hotel room.
Just fucking open up and just close the blinds just all to yourself.
Just ferociously beat your shit.
Just beat your beat.
Every man has this experience.
Every man has their own hotel room.
That's what they do.
It's the number one thing.
I don't think so.
You don't think so?
I swear in the comments section, if you, that's what you do.
Tell us.
Well, that's weird.
Maybe don't.
Do you know?
You want them to beat your shit.
Yes.
But I don't know.
Do women do that?
Beat their shit.
Do you flick your bean in a hotel room and you're like, do girls do that?
Like, is that something you look forward to as a girl?
Like, just like getting there?
Is this too much?
I don't think it's...
I mean, me personally, I don't think it's something that I, I like, oh, I can't wait to book this hotel room so I can, you know, beat my shit in.
Yeah, yeah, I got you.
She's a classy lady.
I understand.
Well, it's like, I don't go with the intention of, you know, if it happens, it happens.
Yeah, you don't have to speak about this.
I'm sorry.
It's very inappropriate.
No, I'm inappropriate for asking.
You're not inappropriate for talking about it.
No, no, no.
I have no problem talking.
We literally talked about going up Will's ass.
What do you mean?
Hello?
Slivers are going to go crazy on this.
That's true.
What else is going on in there?
Do you have any things you want to talk about, Ray?
Quit going.
I mean that, Will.
Why?
Poor girl.
She hasn't really answered the whole time because we keep talking about ass.
We.
Mr. Funny Guy over here.
Well, he's the funny guy.
He's been cutting it quite a bit recently.
This is the funny guy revelation.
I mean, no, not really.
I didn't really come prepared.
No, that's fine.
I just always like to open it up or else the comments kind of rip us apart.
Oh.
Wait, what do they complain about?
I didn't even give guests a chance to speak.
Can I be honest?
Super Bowl Jets and Rams Drama00:09:52
That's true.
I do feel like five people on a pod is a lot.
Yeah.
So I don't know how you guys do it with four people every minimum.
Four people, minimum every episode.
Because isn't there one person that's always not going to talk as much as someone else?
Yeah, but we always trade off.
Me.
Yeah.
No, it's me.
I'm always.
Well, because you're on your phone.
No.
No.
I get on my phone.
Oh my God.
I get on my phone after a while because I'm just out of the conversation.
I'm like, all right, nobody wants to talk about politics with me.
I light up.
When Brandon Lee Mulligan was here, I was lit the fuck up.
I think I was also the morning.
I think the issue is we stream it.
We do this at nighttime after a 10-hour day.
I'm ready to go right now.
Ask me anything politics related.
I'll be fucking yapping.
Okay.
I'm a great A-yapper.
Gay.
You can talk about your other interests.
Well, I want to talk about that.
Yes, you do.
You love trains.
That's true.
Did you see that there's a train movie nominated for best picture?
Which one?
No, I didn't see it.
I think it's called Train Story.
Look it up.
Marsh Best Picture nominations.
Yeah, I was going to bring this up.
I wanted to talk about the Oscar noms.
Are you familiar?
Did you look?
I know Superman got fucking nothing.
Yeah.
And I know you're a little bit devastated.
Wait, is that one of your favorites or something?
I thought I could have used one nomination.
Oh, train dreams.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Train dreams.
I haven't watched it, though.
I feel like that's right down your pipe.
You know why I'm upset about Superman?
Because F1 got nominated for best picture.
Yeah.
Which is crazy.
Yeah.
You're going to pee in that bathroom?
I don't know.
He's so cool.
He's acting brand different and brand new.
Is it me?
Yeah.
He always, he has like different.
He has like a different way around others.
Yeah.
Like if it's a male guest, he has a different vibe.
Like, it depends.
Like, he'll sometimes like throw it up.
Like, I love football.
And then like Super Bowl.
Super Bowl.
Yeah, he cleans it up for like.
Okay, I'll bring it up for him.
Like, you know, let him know.
I know about football.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What are we talking about?
I know that the Seahawks need one more win to go to the Super Bowl.
God damn right.
God damn right.
Okay.
I may be going.
Really?
Yeah, I was invited.
Cool.
But they may, you know, they may have some deliverables that I don't want to do.
So it's pending.
Have you ever been to the Super Bowl before?
No, I really want to go.
I love watching the finals of everything.
Yeah.
I actually love watching competitions.
Like, even league, I don't play league, but the finals of league is always so hype.
And seeing how dedicated football.
Yeah.
I really love football.
We're talking about the Super Bowl.
You're a Vikings fan.
You don't have to participate in this.
Oh, he's a Jets fan.
You don't have to participate in this conversation.
Yeah, no, you've never tasted victory.
Fucking God.
You've never tasted Victory either.
You're a fucking leftist.
I'm a Rams fan.
You're a Rams guy.
Yeah, I'm a Rams guy now.
Bullshit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wait, what?
Why?
That's my guy.
Okay.
The Rams.
That's my guy.
That's the only name the quarterback.
I'm a Rams guy because Matthew Stafford.
Fuck!
How'd you know that?
You're a bitch.
Oh!
Damn.
Anyway, yeah, yeah.
My bitch now.
Because I'm a Rams fan.
No, I know because we went.
That's the only Super Bowl I've ever been to.
And the Rams won.
The Rams did win.
Yeah, we went.
That's the only football game I've ever been to.
Yeah.
I was there.
Was the Super Bowl.
I was there.
Remember, you stood for the National Athletics and everything.
You see that we're in the bad timeline?
Wait, what's the tell?
Tell Ray.
Tell Ray.
And when he made that post in the fourth quarter, I was like, it's the prophecy.
There was this whole prediction that when the Cubs won the World Series, we fractured into a terrible timeline where Donald Trump became president and everything was in the upside down.
And that's why everything's been feeling so off since then.
And the only way for it to reset was if another Chicago-based franchise won a major championship.
So the Bears, but they lost.
By the way, guys, I don't know if you know this, but I've started doing Jets talk radio.
No.
Wait, that's what you were.
I saw the I've appeared on two separate Jets.
I fucking love that, dude.
Wait, how did you get that opportunity?
Like, did you randomly call in or was it the ad thing that I saw?
No, no, no.
It was, it was, I literally did Badlands podcast last week.
Oh, okay, because I saw you posted it.
No, I have, I have commented about the Jets so much on Twitter and in just my private life that I have become like an internet Jets expert.
And that fandom is completely separate from my streaming action.
Film world.
Like, I am just known as a Jets personality.
I love that.
On the internet.
Yeah.
You don't understand.
I used to call him out for this back in the day when we were like first becoming famous.
And Will, with his whole ass, like, you know, internet personality Twitter profile, would be name searching jets.
Like, these are not inbounds.
It's all I do on Twitter.
These are not inbound requests at all.
You would have like some random fucking like Cowboys fan tuning in like Barbara 1744 or whatever.
And Will would be in the replies being like, shut the fuck up, Barbara.
The Jets are going to get it this year, you fucking bitch.
And I was like, Will, you can't do that.
You're famous.
Like, you're calling out people with like 38 fans.
He key searches shit.
Oh, my God.
I do think sports is different.
Sports is different.
Yeah.
I'm very superstitious, so I have a hard time trash talking because I always feel like it's going to come bite me in the ass.
Why?
You're a Vikings fan.
You lose all the time anyway.
Jesus Christ.
Let the boy live.
I'm just saying, switch it up.
I'm sorry we have Joy.
By the way, I think we might be in the worst timeline because I think there's a possibility that the Patriots will win the Super Bowl.
Really?
And we hate that.
And America may invade Greenland.
Well, fuck.
Trump.
We don't get any.
But I do have a you get to have a plane segment every fucking podcast.
Let me have like a little bit.
Tell us about Green.
I did.
Tell us about that.
Hey, Hassan.
I want to hear about you interviewing the MAGA family.
Yes.
That was actually, it was so fun to watch.
It was hard for me to do.
And I was like, that was my favorite stream of the year.
That was incredible.
Yep.
That's the type of shit we want to see.
Yeah.
None of this serious politics is hosted by two, like a brother and sister.
Sister owns a bakery in Texas.
It's like very famous.
I think it's called High Bakery.
Brother's like a movie maker.
And their parents are super MAGA, like ultra MAGA.
And some of their clips have been going viral.
I was like hit up by a friend of mine that knows them and randomly had actually asked, would you like to have them on your stream?
And I was like, sure, why not?
And then I saw their clips and I couldn't believe it.
One of them we could play if you want because it's actually insane.
It's on my Twitter.
I retweeted it right before I interviewed them.
So I think this will give you a pretty good understanding of where they're at if you are unfamiliar with who they are.
But yes, the mom and dad are super MAGA.
They're in Oklahoma.
The sister is in Texas, runs a bakery, very famous bakery.
And Chad, the brother, is in Los Angeles.
Here is the general vibes overall.
This one minute and 49 second video will get you understanding everything.
What if Donald Trump says, I want you to carpet bomb Oklahoma City.
Everyone.
You think the Air Force should carry that out?
Yes.
There might be a reason.
I don't know.
This is insane.
You cannot be this stupid.
Jesus Christ.
Oh, my, my.
This podcast was going well until that.
You just said it's cool.
We fing levels, Oklahoma.
You're like, yeah, f it.
There must be a reason.
Like, you literally can't be that dumb.
You know what the problem is?
Mom and I don't believe he'll ever blow up Oklahoma because we're on his side and so is the whole state.
No, it's because you're in a cult.
You guys are worried and afraid because you live in a state where it might happen.
Okay, let's theoretically say that does happen.
Let's say Trump sends in the Marines to Los Angeles, California.
And let's say I'm out going to see a movie on a weekend and he says, go into that shopping mall.
Truck.
Quiet piggy.
He says, go and everyone you see.
And let's say I get gunned down by the Marines for just being at a mall.
Okay, number one.
Let's just type in the market.
Wait a minute.
Mom, wait one second.
Wait one second.
Dad, hang on, mom.
Dad, you just said you are for Donald Trump murdering me for no reason.
And you would support that.
If he walks into a mall to people with military.
There has to be a reason.
There's a reason.
And I'm all for it.
And the people in Los Angeles, California are as deserving of execution as the assholes in New York City.
You're all communists.
Now, I love Bob.
That's Bob.
Bob's my favorite.
Yeah, Bob was...
Here, can I see your glasses?
Yeah.
My favorite was when you were talking to him about Minneapolis and he was like, none of those Ethiopians are any good.
I don't like any of them.
Yeah, no, he said, and you're like, 95% of them are citizens.
He's like, none of them are citizens.
Get them out.
So it was crazy.
So here's the thing.
It was crazy.
I think I get a lot of heat for, you know, being a hater of America and stuff, but I truly fucking love America.
And I love every American, even people like Bob.
I especially have a soft spot for people like Bob.
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And that really came out in this conversation because I came in, I went into it, I immediately laid it on.
I was like, listen, Bob, you're talking to a communist terrorist, you know, un-American.
I, you know, helped get Zoron elected, you know, like I told him all this stuff and he was like, not having it at all.
No.
And then after that, I challenged him.
I said, I'm a bigger MAGA than you.
Like, I, you know, I have a higher MAGA level than you do.
And he's like, hell no, you don't.
And I was like, I started pulling out different things.
And I think I disarmed him a little bit with the comical hat.
The comical hat.
And the other thing that totally threw him for a loop is when you started mentioning that you pay for your entire family.
He's like, that's good on you, man.
That's check for you.
Oh, yeah, that too.
Yeah.
When he found out that I was wealthy, he started respecting me.
He started calling you sir and shit.
Yeah, that's crazy.
I don't know why.
But like, I think I have this theory that, and it's not like that crazy of a theory to have.
I think I think everyone wants what's best for this country.
Everyone wants what's best for others.
I disagree.
But I think, I know.
I think there's, there's a side that's quite more selfish.
Yes.
Very selfish.
I think like there is definitely a level of selfishness and self-interest.
And there's a way to talk to people like that.
There's a way to design the argument that like they kind of get it.
You can lean into certain qualities or certain things that they actually care about.
For example, like competitiveness.
Like that's the reason why I was consistently talking about like how education is important because like we want to have a competitive labor force.
We don't want the Chinese to have smarter, more intelligent engineers than us, right?
That's why we got to make education free.
So like there is a way to have that conversation.
But I think at the end of the day, a lot of these people like they're they're they're misguided.
They're misguided on what they think is actually going to make this country a better place.
And I think like over the many, many years, they become like more and more selfish.
But that's, that's often my position.
Like they, their starting point is always going to be good.
No one is born an evil person, right?
It's a, it's a sequence of events and social learning and learned behavior that causes you to become the person that you are.
I think the other thing that like was very aptly depicted in your conversation with that family is I think there is this unwillingness to believe that there is a better way.
I think a lot of people grew up in a like 60s, 70s, 80s America, and they think that the challenges that they had to overcome are inherent to the human condition.
And when you talk about something like free college, they're like, yes, it is a great idea, but there's, they treat it like the tooth fairy, where they're like, there's simply no way that this can be made manifest.
And if you're telling me this, you're, you're trying to sell me something.
Yes.
And then they, but they, they refuse to go down any kind of logical thread of, well, here's the possibility and here's how it would inherently make things better.
Or here's how it works in other countries.
They're like, no.
Exactly.
I don't care.
It's like, dude, what do you mean?
We're the only OECD nation that doesn't have these things.
And I think that tracks back to a level of nationalism where they think that the United States is so fundamentally the best country in the world that even imagining another country doing something superior to us is poppy cock and yeah.
You know what I find interesting about wealthy people and specifically people that were successful in previous generations is a lot of people attribute their wealth and success to the hard work that they put in.
Oh my God, I know.
And look, I'm not going to discredit.
Sure.
Hard work.
No, I'll discredit it.
Hold on away.
Hard work is necessary, but just because you work hard doesn't guarantee your success.
And a lot of the thing, what they fail to recognize is the privileges that their generation had over the current generation.
Absolutely.
So this is the one thing that's manifested in my opinion on this is a lot of people have generational wealth and then they're like, I'm going to keep it for myself and not give any to my children because I want them to work hard and whatever, yada, yada, yada.
I always, I'm just like, well, you know, again, like, obviously this is a different situation because, you know, this is generational wealth is a completely different thing.
But they always think that if you work that hard, you are going to have that wealth.
And they don't understand that the people in the current generation and the current landscape of the world don't have these same privileges afforded to them.
The cost of living is unaffordable.
They can't afford housing.
They can't afford education.
There's many things that are not accessible to them.
Also, and this is very, this is fundamentally important.
Very different job market landscape in general where like they think boomers genuinely fucking think a firm handshake and like looking them right dead in the eyes is a fucking job.
And then you sit there and you work through the ranks and you get your fucking golden bracelet Rolex on the time on your way out of the company with a fucking pension.
That shit doesn't exist anymore.
Because look, all of us sitting here in this room are living examples of the time where like, look, yeah, we've worked hard.
I mean, most of us in the room have worked hard, right?
I'm talking discrediting you myself, of course.
But like most of us, you know, we've all worked hard, but it is, it is ridiculous to acknowledge or to ignore the fact that to some degree, all of us were in the right place at the right time to be able to capitalize on the opportunities that we have.
There's a tremendous amount of talented people on this planet that could do what we do.
But we happen to have the right the opportunity.
There are school teachers that after a long day at the school go and do Uber delivery.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
That person works a million times harder and is an infinitely more valuable worker for America, for America's future than fucking Elon Musk is.
And the mentality that a lot of people have is like, no, just because Elon Musk has more money, he's a better person.
He's more moral.
Like it's this prosperity gospel mentality that a lot of people have that stems from the Calvinist tradition.
And I am endlessly frustrated having to deal with that kind of stuff.
The other thing that's frustrating is the association that wealth has to intelligence.
It does not mean that streamers are a great example of that.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yes, I feel like, look at us.
Good example that you don't have to be this, you know, brilliant.
Me too.
Patreon Paywalls and Intelligence00:02:11
I didn't know what.
Do you know what autumnal means?
No.
Exactly.
Do you?
No.
I do now.
Is it real?
What is that?
No, you missed the sound.
It's of what?
You missed the sound.
Autumnal.
Oh, okay.
Autumnal.
Autumnal.
Of autumn.
So like, if I say it's very autumnal, it means it's of autumn.
So it's like very, it's like.
What is it?
Like French or something?
It's English.
Oh, it's English.
See?
Like, we don't know these words.
No, they don't.
No, but I have the right place, right time.
Do you know what Besmirch is?
No.
Thank you so much.
Wait, what is that?
Thank you so much.
Okay, but this is coming from someone that is trying to become a reader, trying to read this year.
I haven't read at all recently.
Maybe that's why we don't know what Besurge is.
Yeah, no, there's a lot of words I don't know.
But look, also, I don't think intelligence is measured by how many words you know.
I think that's how you use your talents, capability.
Just because I don't have pretty words don't mean I'm an idiot.
But like, I think that there's a level of social intelligence in being aware of that.
Especially in this nowadays.
Like, you can, you can make a living with the power of the internet.
Anything's possible.
Like, I'll give you an example.
Today I was on the plane and I was sitting next to a woman and I could not help but tell her why we were landing on a particular runway, right?
I was like, I couldn't help it, you know?
And I have the social intelligence to be aware of that, but I couldn't help myself.
What does that have to do with anything?
You just brought it up because you wanted to bring up a plane.
Sorry, before we end the show, because we're going to be able to do that.
Wait, it's already over.
Well, we have a paywalled episode at patreon.com/slash fearand.
But Ray, where can people find you?
Thank you so much for watching.
You can find me at Whine About It, my podcast with Cutie Cinderella, who we miss very much.
We also have a Patreon that is way better than Fear Ann's, but we'll see you there.
Well, hold on, but before we go to that, before you go to that Patreon and spend absorbing some amounts of money, which I love.
A lot of people were telling me they're like, wow, this is fucking expensive.
Yeah, yeah.
Go to Fear Ann.
Patreon goes to Fear Ann.
It's much less, it's much more cost-effective.
Yeah, yeah.
You get more bang for your book.
That's right.
Ray Jeffrey.
That's not true.
We have segments on Wine About It.
Oh, so do we.
Oh, yeah.
Do you guys do gaming together?
Fluid Ray and Podcast Endings00:01:37
No.
Yeah.
Do you guys have calling confessions?
We're starting a new segment where we all jerk off together.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I'm down.
Fucking.
You're saying that hasn't been a segment yet.
Tier four, it's just all of us.
Just me, Marsh, Hassan, Will.
Sometimes we throw a guest in there.
And what are you jacking off to?
You do that a lot now.
What is this?
This is a new thing.
Do you ever just put it in the middle of the money man up and get real into it?
Funny man.
Can you see it?
It's a funny kid.
He's just a funny guy.
I actually don't like this funny episode.
Don't shut off the podcast yet.
Damn it.
All right.
Oh, see how the Patreon or mine.
They didn't even provide lighter fluid, Ray.
What the fuck am I supposed to do?
Not only was I pissed because he said he could do it and he couldn't.
He was a little, he was a lot afraid of the fire.
He just wasn't.
I'm like yelling at him.
I'm like, put the newspaper under the big wood.
You put the little wood in and then you got to rub it really quickly, which you think he'd be good at with how much he's sucking and fucking.
You think he'd be able to do it, but he's not, right?
And I'm like, I'm very competitive, right?
So I'm like, Austin, get your fucking shit together.
You can't even do this in a controlled environment.
Oh, no.
This is this day I learned.
Years of resentment.
Yeah, no, Austin, because I worry about you, okay?
Like, I realize if you were out in the wilderness, you would die.