Fuslie and Sykkuno dissect Twitch drama involving XQC, E-Rob's ban for threatening a chatter at TwitchCon, and Slicker's alleged $500,000 scam targeting chemotherapy patients. They contrast YouTube's creative freedom with Twitch's "fast food" content rat race, noting how high viewer counts turn gaming into work rather than fun. While acknowledging outliers like Germa, they argue platform incentives discourage artistic risk, citing personal anecdotes ranging from a chair incident mocked by Scarce to political commentary during the January 6th cycle. Ultimately, the discussion reveals that true creative flow occurs only when creators escape the pressure of quantifiable audience metrics. [Automatically generated summary]
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The XQC Money Scam00:14:46
Yeah, we just recorded.
We'll cut it later, surely.
All right.
Dude, we are so live.
We're live and we're alive.
Oh my God.
Who is this man to the left of me?
That's crazy.
Is that international icon Draco Malfoy from the Harry Potter series?
First crush.
Oh, my God.
Her first person was Will Neff.
Me too.
I'll throw down some parcel tongue.
That's crazy.
Draco Malfoy.
I spit that parcel tongue in the pussy.
Just kidding.
What the?
What the?
Ew.
He doesn't show up for like two episodes.
Who is this man?
Who the fuck was that?
We have cool guests.
Okay.
Oh, is this better?
It was breaking the ice.
We have breaking the ice.
This is cool guests.
He thinks he's like super mega.
He can say like weird gay shit.
We can't do that.
I have a Harry Potter joke.
Guys, we have incredible.
Go to the intro.
Let's hear this out.
Let's go.
I'll get Leslie.
I'll hear the joke out of this.
Okay, you need to crack off on that.
Hey, girl, do you like Harry Potter?
Because I can stick my basilisk in your chamber of secrets.
Was that a joke?
Was that a joke?
I don't know if it's not a joke.
It's a pickup line.
It's a pickup line.
What is it?
What's part of it?
That's the part.
The pickup line.
I said I meant to have a pickup line.
I feel better about the parcel tongue.
Leslie, thank God you're a woman, okay?
Because you would not make it in this world.
Yo!
Imagine Leslie trying to pick someone, like, kicking game.
Hey, yo.
I got a joke for you, babe.
You would get mace.
It's so bad, it's good.
I would have games.
Damn.
I know I would.
More than me, for sure.
Would you be able to kick game?
You don't need to have game.
Don't start with this.
You don't need to have game.
You're Saikuno.
Am I wrong?
Look at him.
It doesn't work.
You're just saying that because we're both wearing the same.
That's true.
I saw him.
I saw Saikuno wearing this and I immediately ran over and grabbed mine.
I was like, we're matching.
And I actually suggested the Will too, but he's like, I got one.
The tickets to the game show.
Yeah, that's kind of Carl.
Wasn't at the shoot, but Carl Jacobs, you know.
We got good merch.
We got shooters.
Well, where's our intro?
Is this good, by the way?
Oh, fuck.
Before I forget.
All right.
Oh, my God.
We are joined by, we're joined by incredible guests today.
Ladies and gentlemen, Boys World Zambies, we got, we got, oh my God, we got Sykuno.
And oh, shit.
I'm sorry.
We got.
I'm just kidding.
We got Saikuno.
Hey, we got Leslie.
What the fuck?
Boostly.
Thank you.
Thank you for having me.
He's role-playing his blow now.
Well, okay.
You know, the prank, the prank.
It's a joke.
Yeah.
Well, you were the number one purveyor of Zed joke.
You bully him a lot.
I stopped doing it as much, and now everyone just does it too.
I initially used to never do it, and now I do it all the time.
I'm just copying Leslie.
I just want to be like Leslie.
That's straight up.
And I want to be like Sykuno, so I'm trying to be like Leslie.
That's Leslie's fault is what?
Yeah.
I'll take credit.
I should take credit like it's a good thing.
Anyway, there's not a lot going on this week.
So this is going to be a boring episode.
It's going to be a really slick episode.
Our platform.
Not yours.
We're chilling on this.
Oh, yeah.
We're on YouTube.
Yeah, technically, so was this podcast.
So don't worry.
Our platform is fine.
We're good.
Yeah, we're chilling.
So what's going on on Twitch?
Mad Max.
I heard everything's going really smooth and slick there, but it's still slick.
Real slow.
I'll be honest.
Like, since you guys, I saw what you did there.
Since you guys left, the platform is blowing up.
Timing, I don't know.
I leave YouTube.
I leave Twitch for you.
Leslie was the glue.
Is that what you're saying?
Yeah.
You left and then E-Rob got banned and then everything has been.
E-Rob was the glue.
E-Rob was the glue.
Kirma?
No, I don't think so.
I think his community was like harassing him.
No, he said he was going to cross one of his viewers' chins.
Oh, yeah.
What?
Someone was talking shit in his chat.
He's like, when I see you at TwitchCon, I'm going to punch you in the face.
Wait, that's why he got banned.
To be fair, though.
Okay.
Were the vibes off with that chatter?
For sure, yeah.
Because like, honestly.
What did he say?
Honestly, I don't probably have no clue, but I like thinking that a streamer doesn't like a chatter, then they shouldn't be there, right?
I mean, it's your streamer.
I agree.
Get him out.
Twitch's terms of service, I usually defend it, even though, you know, I'm basically pen testing.
I'm testing the bands, like the amount, the maximum amount that one streamer can get.
But having said all that, I think, you know, maybe you shouldn't get banned for saying you'll beat the shit out of a chatter.
TwitchCon.
I mean, let us have that.
Okay.
You know, what can we have if we can't have that?
You know what one I would fight for?
What?
Buttcrack.
You can't say buttcrack?
No, you can't have buttcrack.
Yes.
Buttcrack comes out all the time.
Yeah.
No, I feel like that.
That's there, though.
I feel like that's there.
Am I wrong?
It's nuts that you can't show mail a noose.
Yeah.
Well, not the anus.
Okay.
Oh, the cheeks.
Okay, I just meant like a noose loosely.
Like, obviously, it's like a win.
Where are they?
I just meant like, like, I don't know why I'm doing this, but I just meant like...
Yeah, what is happening here?
It's flapping in the wind.
You should be able to show butt.
Yeah, you should be able to show butt, especially male guy.
But one for the boys.
Because this is YouTube's finest, we will inform them as to what's going on on our platform, Twitch.
Where do you want to start with the flaming trash pile that is?
I think there's been a long buildup of things that some of our top content creators have been doing for a while that irked a bunch of other content creators also on the platform.
It all started XQC did not want to go to shit camp, which is an understandable thing.
You can just not want to go, which is fine.
But he did the most XQC thing ever and chose to not tell anyone until the day of shit camp and then basically said it on his broadcast that he wasn't actually going to go and never informed Cutie nor Ludwig, who was throwing a show for XQC, a show which myself and Will Neff were supposed to be on before shit camp.
Like I didn't want to leak it, but you were also supposed to be on that as well.
I mean, I don't know.
Also, it's interesting that no one's said this, but it's not, it wasn't like a show like this show where you all just sit down at a table.
There was a set built.
Yeah, no, it was on a, it was like a show.
It was in a theater.
Like Ludwig literally did the rehearsal the night before.
There was like a giant Legends of the Hidden Temple face that like lit up.
It was a big thing.
Ludd put together a bomb ass show for XQC and he just didn't show up to that.
Didn't tell Ludwig apparently that he was not going to show up to his own show on his own channel.
Didn't tell a cutie that he wasn't going to show up to shit camp.
And, you know, I, being the person who is very like annoyed with things like that, couldn't shut the fuck up and hold my tongue, as is normally the process in these sorts of situations.
You had the most to gain.
Yeah, no, totally.
Because I love being doxed by 14-year-olds on the internet.
So I'm always like, let's do that today.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
Sometimes I'll just go to Chuck E. Cheese and drop my ID.
Yeah.
I like it as well.
Yeah.
He's just.
What's wrong with you then?
Listen, we're thrill seekers.
Forget Bungie jumping.
But basically, that turned into like, oh man, maybe XQC should be like more cordial.
It went from that to like, you know, everyone also shitting on XUC.
Like a lot of people on LSF shitting on him and stuff because he's done this like a million times.
And then the Juice Lord army also joined forces and were like, fuck everybody.
XQC is infallible.
That's my God.
He doesn't need to tell anyone anything ever.
And that sparked additional drama, which then turned into XQC leaking that he had broken up with his girlfriend, Adept.
That part I caught.
I love.
And yeah, so then XQC mentioned it for like 10 minutes and made a YouTube video about it.
And then Adept talked about it the next day.
And then XQC talked about it again, which led to a three-hour live discussion.
I have not watched it yet.
I don't plan on watching it.
It was kind of weird.
Well, the crazy thing is Netflix bought the rights.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
So the actual, no.
I'm doing a six-part true crime.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Miyamora Juicer.
So yeah, they had like a breakup debate, which is weird.
Yep, I saw that.
On the platform, it got like 120,000 viewers.
And, you know, Kai Sinatz eating popcorn, watching it with like 60,000 viewers.
Everyone's like doing, you know, debate analysis afterwards.
It was a whole spectacle.
So that was like the first big thing, but we had no idea what was to come.
And then after that, I guess after that, you know, there was, that was the main drama.
And then out of nowhere, it turns out that a person on the platform by the name of Slicker, who I'm very familiar with, I've been on a lot of shows with.
Yeah, we've interacted with Slicker.
We've played Minecraft with him on the ant server.
Yeah, he's a big Minecraft guy.
No.
No.
I mean, not really, but best friends with Saikuno and Leslie.
No, no.
Very close.
Close and personalized.
He's the one who got him into sports betting, right?
Yeah.
What is sports more?
Right.
No.
That is a joke.
That's a joke.
That's a joke.
He's joking.
I don't even know why.
So, yeah, Slicker, he over the course of the past three years, almost four, since 2019, Slicker apparently has been asking people for money all the time and kind of scamming them, saying that he's going to pay it back, you know, and making promises he was going to pay it back.
And, you know, people started popping up left and right.
This was unsurprising to me because he had already asked me for money all the way back in 2020.
So I was like, oh, yeah, I know that.
Like, I gave him some money and then he asked me again in like last month.
So I was like, no, I'm not giving you money.
Something fucking crazy going on here.
I did not know how crazy it was, though.
Turns out he has asked everyone.
Yeah.
Including.
Well, he's at like $500,000.
Oh, not everyone.
Not everyone.
Did he not?
Not either of us.
Oh, I didn't get that.
Not me neither.
Me neither.
Are you guys broke, boys?
He doesn't think.
I think.
Yeah, we just contract.
What the heck, Leslie?
I guess he did not see that you guys went to YouTube.
So maybe he just didn't know.
But how much did you milk out of it?
Gave him a thousand dollars.
Wait, really?
Oh, my God.
Only 500 for me.
This perspective, and I haven't talked about this yet on stream.
Because at first, when this started being revealed, it was one of those things where I think I wanted to protect a person that I thought was sincerely at the mercy of his addiction.
As more and more details come out, it seems A, that he's kind of remorseless about this.
Oh, I didn't even, yeah.
I didn't even think.
Oh, 100%.
We'll get to that because then I had a conversation with him.
But I didn't even think that at first.
I didn't say anything the first day this popped off because I thought like there's got to be like cancer in the family or some shit.
Like, why is he doing this?
So there's a lot that I have not said that I'll say here.
First of all, it's interesting that this came out when it did because when we went to Europe, I spoke with a friend of ours who was in Europe with us.
I won't drop his name.
And I had been asked for money and the account that he gave me was that he lived with his mom and his accounts were blocked and they were going to get evicted and blah blah blah.
We all had this conversation.
Yes, exactly.
Oh my God, I just remember.
So we had a conversation with a friend and that friend said, oh, dude, he has a gambling problem and he won't take a contract because he thinks gambling is haram.
And so then we start talking about it and he's like, he's borrowed money from a lot of people.
I remembered that he had asked Seer for money.
So when I went to Austin, we were at a party and I was like, Slicker asked you for money, right?
And he was like, oh, yeah, dude.
And someone overheard that and they said, oh my God, Slicker's asked me for money.
And at the party, it became like, it became almost like a game where we would go to people and be like, has Slicker asked you for money?
And at this party of like 30 people, like 15 or 16 of us had been asked for money.
And we're like, this is just like, yeah, this is actually crazy.
And then he almost like a week later asked me for money again with the same story that he had been locked out of his account and stuff.
And it was, it's just crazy how far reaching this.
Yeah.
He has asked pretty much everyone, his own moderators, his own community members.
And I asked him, Miskiv brought him into a call earlier today.
And I had some questions for him about like, what's going on?
Cause I wanted to have a conversation about like gambling addiction in general.
And I originally had like, I mean, I still have a lot more, I still have a lot of empathy for people who are struggling with addiction because like we all have had our demons that we've dealt with or know someone that has been, you know, struck by a similar thing, which is why I've always been a big champion against a crusader against like gambling on the platform from the jump.
But yeah, he did seem very remorseful or remorseless.
Sorry.
And it was a wild conversation overall, but he has taken money from people that were like undergoing chemotherapy.
Like knowing full well that they were undergoing chemotherapy.
Like really, just like probably the worst thing you can did he like come forward and just say like, yeah, I never planned to give the money back or did he say like that was no plan?
No, but that's not how that works.
Asking Chemotherapy Patients for Cash00:02:06
Even if you he might legitimately believe that he always intended to give it back, but basically he was like, he got 100 grand from train wrecks.
He's gotten like a lot of money.
He got this is at like half a million dollars.
Yeah, yeah.
He told me on the call that it was 300,000 that he thinks is the number.
Pretty sure it's like around 500.
He was keeping track.
I mean, he was not keeping track.
Damn, he was just getting from so many people.
Yeah.
And he kept saying like, no, no, no, I paid back some people, but like, no, like the reality is I think he was just trying to keep it going almost like a Ponzi scheme.
I think for me, at first when I thought it was just creators, I think I had a different perspective on it because I do have this feeling that like among YouTube and Twitch creators, we are so blessed to live the lives that we do.
And it is one thing to ask your affluent friends for money.
But when I found out he was like taking advantage of people that trusted him, like your community are the ones that uplift you.
They believe in you.
They support you.
They love you.
To take advantage of those people is so rough, man.
Yeah.
So tough.
Pretty irredeemable.
And I don't know.
I don't know if he like doesn't understand it, but this is like grand larceny.
It's like wire fraud kind of.
You know what I mean?
Like, I mean, they voluntarily gave him the money, but they gave it to him under false pretenses.
So I don't, I mean, this is a lot of money.
Like, this is not a tiny bit.
Do you go to jail for this?
I think, I think.
I feel like if you don't, then something's wrong.
Yeah, it's kind of wild.
What is that?
Is that like a cheat code?
Yeah, like there's no way you can just do that, right?
Yeah.
I haven't looked into the, you know, criminal code in the UK, but I suspect that this, this level of, of, like, asking people money under false pretenses has got.
I feel like if this happens, you just get away, then something's definitely wrong.
I feel like, yeah.
So, so then, you know, that's where we're at.
The platform has had a sequence of like insane dramatic moments, back to back to back.
Jail Time for False Pretenses00:03:37
Yeah, like for Twitch, just as like, oh, games, what games you guys playing on the platform?
Valorant, I just actually, I just revealed my rank.
I'm bronze one.
That's pretty good.
You're almost, I'm like silver, so you're pretty good.
Yeah, he's already, he's only one behind me, like one little tier.
Yeah, so I'm coming for you.
No, it's crazy because we've been playing since the beta.
The game opened like four long ago, three years, two years ago.
I should actually play because I like when we don't have any smurfs.
Oh, yeah, it's nice.
Oh, a lot of people.
My friends are high rank.
I like when we're all actually bronze and silver.
Yeah, no, smurfing is, I think, punishable by death.
Molding.
Yeah, I think you can buy Smurf accounts on eBay for like five bucks.
It's really fucking annoying.
I didn't want to do that, by the way.
I didn't want to do that because I wanted to actually learn the game.
It's better to do it.
Yeah, because if I just like jumped in, you know, fucking bronze or whatever, I would have gotten my shit pushed in all the time.
It would have been too hard to get carried.
I still do.
Yeah.
Thanks, producer.
Thanks, producer, March.
Wait, so are you guys enjoying it?
Like, you get like hooked.
All I can think about is fun.
Yeah.
Like, we went to do mini golf yesterday.
Like, anytime I do anything, like, even remotely competitive, even though it's not supposed to be, it's like fun.
I immediately am like, I wish I was playing Valorant right now.
He was molding at mini golf.
I got a hole in one.
You did.
Not a hard hole?
Like, one person saw it.
Yeah, like, nobody saw it, but I believe him.
He's an honest guy.
No, no, no.
One person saw it.
Okay.
Ray saw it.
Ray saw it.
And I got really excited.
I was like, oh, I got a hole in one.
And then literally not a single person.
Not a single lich.
It was so awkward.
We look around.
We're like, wait, did you actually get it?
Yeah.
I believe you, Hassan.
That's so bad.
I believe him.
I just didn't see it even though I was there, but I believe him.
Yeah, because everyone was like, I don't know what Austin was doing.
I think it was like touching Nolan's face or something.
So everyone was like more focused on that instead of my fucking hole in one.
Yeah.
Fuck.
It's fine.
It's fine.
I'm going to get over it.
Oh my God.
That's YouTube thinking.
Oh my God.
Why don't we ever do that?
She's on YouTube now.
She knows.
Why do we never do that?
Because I'm old.
I am too.
I mean, well, it's because your viewers will like it anyway because they're such a big supporter.
You are so good.
In fact, everyone right now will probably like it.
They're grabbing their mouths right now.
Well, I think they'll all like it now because they're just How do your pants work?
They're like this.
Oh, I was like.
They're not making any sense to my brain.
That's just a leg window on one side.
That's cool.
Showing a little skin.
It's just.
Wait, that's...
Oh, yeah.
No, we're at one of those.
Yeah, no, we're literally cutting the podcast all up to this moment.
Absolutely not.
We're all wearing.
I'm really used that later.
I mean, we're all streaming today.
We need to upload this ASAP because we are talking about relevant topics right now.
Yeah, and soon.
Yeah, it's going to be uploaded.
Oh, it's coming up.
It's going to be uploaded super fast.
Yeah.
I'll let you know if I say anything I feel like I shouldn't have said, but yeah, no.
What else has been going on?
What else?
Just like.
Well, um.
Oh, I kind of, I mean, we've been on a trip.
Yeah, we're in a bad day.
So like we've been out of it.
We came back to catch up on ours.
Oh, Ray had a billboard.
Showering Every Seven Days00:14:16
Yeah.
So that was the main one.
He was a big one.
Oh, yeah.
It was.
Biggest.
The biggest billboard.
Oh, you were there.
I remember.
Hassan was streaming.
Oh, you were there?
That's crazy.
I can't believe it.
You know, they hit me with it.
You were there.
I remember.
The whole trip was a dream.
We literally fucking shared so many experiences.
We did.
Oh, my God.
Every time we had dinner, I like sat across from Saikuno.
What the fuck?
My memory's bad.
Listen, listen.
Oh, NPC Hassan.
That is crazy.
That's so sad.
I don't make much of an impression.
Wait, Saikuna, can we talk about why Hassan is so utterly forgettable?
No, no, that's not.
What about him?
This whole trip.
What is going on?
I've been out of it the whole trip.
I feel like I'm barely awake now.
I've got three bags under my eyes.
Never had that before.
Triple bag?
I've been, yeah, I've never had that.
It's just been a lot of, you know, the whole trip.
Came back trying to catch up on the hours, the whole bit, you know?
How many hours?
I've been drinking too much liquid.
Yes, Saikuno and I both got like, like, I'm not even kidding.
Like, we got 16, like, we got a fucking pound of Wagyu.
Oh.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that was a whole thing.
Like, we both got an entire pound of Wagyu, which was delicious.
It was great.
They brought it out.
It was marble that looked like fucking chicken, dude.
I thought it was literally.
It did not have much red.
Yeah, it wasn't red really like that.
But it was like, it was like a sheet of orca fat is what it looked like.
That's my favorite kind.
It's good, but it's a lot to eat.
I think it just, the fat really gets to you.
I slammed it.
You will sweat.
You've had meat sweats before?
I've heard of them.
It's when you start to smell like meat, right?
Well, you also can eat so much meat that you sweat.
Meat.
It's a thing.
I've seen it.
Your body just starts.
It's like oil.
It's like you're producing oily sweat.
You smell like meat.
Well, how do I know?
Because I thought it's the smoke from the KBBQ that's coming at me.
You might be meat sweating.
No, Okay, okay.
Question for you.
What's up with the shower thing?
Let's just get right to it.
I don't shower.
Why?
No, no.
Are you meat sweating right now?
Let me just clear this up.
You're going to have to clear it up all the fucking time.
All right.
I don't actually not shower.
I shower once every two days, 48 hours.
Okay, you just told me you haven't showered for three days.
Yeah, so today is a special day.
Okay.
I know.
I knew I was coming on the pot.
So I took an extra.
Like, is that how that works?
No, I just don't like it.
She never smells bad.
Are you a dry shampooer?
Yes.
Saikuna.
Saikuno, get in there and tell us.
Give us a wave.
Saikuno, get in there and tell us.
That's fine.
Exactly.
She never smells bad.
She's never smelled bad ever.
Okay, but in high school, I did used to shower once a Saturday.
Every Saturday.
That was it.
What the fuck?
But I ran in the family.
You only showered once a week?
Okay, can I ask you, what's your reason for not showing?
Because I don't need to.
She just doesn't have to.
I don't smell.
But you don't enjoy showering?
No.
Well, clearly not.
You fucking did it once every seven days.
Yeah.
No, because my mom would like kind of, well, sorry to expose my mom.
But she was also once a week.
Water.
No, not the water.
It was more of like, it was like.
Not conservation.
No, fuck that.
Fuck the environment.
No, no, no.
No, it was just like the, I didn't smell, so I looked at my hair and my hair wasn't greasy.
And I was like, well, I don't need a shower.
I don't smell.
I'm fine.
And then my mom was also like, yeah, I only shower once a week.
So don't worry about it.
Hassan and I are big shower boys.
We're twice a day, boys.
Twice a day.
Because we both broke fat.
So like, and we also work out a growth.
Yeah, working out for sure.
Yeah.
That's that.
When I work out, I time my showers with my workout with my showers.
So I go to the gym.
I'm like, okay, I can't go to the gym tomorrow because I just showered today.
That's crazy.
That is an insane thing.
So imagine I'll shower before.
No, it's supposed to be the other way around.
No, I can't.
You're supposed to shower because you're like, oh, I'm going to go to the gym definitely every day.
Yeah, I get that train of thought too, but mine's the other way.
Yeah, that's.
Because, no, no, but think about this.
Okay, imagine you shower, right?
You get out and you.
Is that how quickly?
Is that how quickly it works for you?
You go.
10 minutes.
Okay, dry.
Okay, that part's fine.
That's where everyone has the same shower experience.
When you get out, though, now I have to wait two hours or like an hour for my hair to air dry.
You're talking to two boys who had two guys.
Famously long hair.
Oh, yeah.
So how do you shower so much?
I literally just roll and roll with it.
Yeah, but then you die.
He dries it.
He had beautiful hair when he had long hair.
I just let it ride.
I don't give a fuck.
No, yours is natural, so that's like easy.
But when you had the, when you were like doing a lot of blow drying, wasn't it like a hassle?
No.
I mean, I feel like your hair's not super long, right?
No, no, no.
She used to have shoulder-length hair.
I remember that one.
Yours is almost shoulder-length now.
Yeah, mine is.
Mine's a little bit more.
I like the slight wave in your hair.
Yeah, it's normally natural.
Yeah.
Lucky, lucky.
Lachuga.
Yeah.
If I could have short hair, I would do it, but I just would not rock it.
You should do a YouTube video where you shower every day a week and just see how your life changes.
That's great.
Dude, see this brain?
Dude, see what my brain is doing?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nothing changes.
Nothing changes.
Wouldn't it be that?
It's funny if she started like deteriorating and died.
You're like, ooh, my skin's so good.
Her heart couldn't take the straight.
No, I don't.
I wouldn't want to do it.
It's just really time-consuming.
And so today I was really trying to shower before the stream, but I couldn't have time.
So then I was like, break, I think.
You're ever thinking about a shower cap?
Oh, no, I actually bathe every day.
That's the thing.
Oh, what?
Oh, wait.
What?
What?
Wait, what?
Leslie, this is a...
You just told us you shower every day then.
What?
I'm talking, wash my hair.
Wait!
Hey, what is going on right now?
What?
So this entire day.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
You wash your body every day.
Yeah!
Wait, the internet has fought for years that you do not wash yourself but once a week.
And it's all because you thought showering meant washing your hair?
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Stop.
Stop.
This is crazy.
Hold on, hold on.
Quick question.
Like, I washed my body.
Let's say.
In the shower.
Yeah!
That's showering, Leslie.
I thought it's like when you were getting under the shower, like groundbreaking.
This is even on shook and I live with her.
Right?
Most people don't have.
What are words, Leslie?
Wait, So you're gonna have to show me.
What is a shower hair?
That's a shower!
What?
No one washes their hair every day.
No, no, no, no.
That's what I'm doing.
I wash my hair every day, but I don't actually shampoo.
I don't shampoo.
Yeah, I'll rinse my hair every day.
Thank you.
You're not shampoo every day.
That's why I have long hair.
I would wear a shower cap.
That's why I put a shower cap.
Also, of the hair.
That's why I said.
Are you familiar with the invention of the shower cap?
Yeah.
Oh, why do you think it's called a shower cap if you're not showering in your mind?
That's a good point.
You've never questioned this.
I cannot.
This is like.
Yes, I.
Well, why?
This is like the end of the success.
This is the craziest thing.
Where did you say wash your body?
And when I say shower, I am getting fully blown, like, wet.
Do you think people are aware that you wash your body every day?
I think I've mentioned it a few times.
Leslie, can I tell you that you definitely thought that you do not wash yourself?
Yes.
Yes.
There is no way you.
This is the actual biggest twist of the entire streaming.
Yeah, no, it is.
Leslie, Leslie.
It is the biggest shocker to me.
Yeah, that's disgusting.
No, no, no, no, you thought I would go.
I mean, ew, in high school, I was the one.
Every Saturday, ew.
Sorry, you thought that I went sexy.
Yes.
Yes.
Oh, God.
We were like, we were like, we were just kind of rolling with it.
Like, oh, she's quite good.
I don't want to be me now.
And it's true, she never smells bad.
I meant washing my hair.
But even nowadays, I will say I don't shower every day.
Like, even with our new definition of shower.
Our new definition.
Like, ye old English definition.
With this, I guess.
Yeah.
Pretty sure, like, 17th century levels of that.
You wash your body.
Pretty much every day.
Yeah.
Oh.
I must.
I must.
I got a Vino body wash recently.
So we all thought she was crazy.
So you enjoy washing your body.
So everybody thought she was crazy for the longest time.
Yes, yes.
Oh, why am I?
But I will say, but I will say, I didn't use body wash until like six months ago.
Okay, what?
Not stop washing.
I just let the shampoo rinse down.
What?
The suns?
But that's only once a week.
Not even wash.
You only shampoo once a week.
Yeah.
So doesn't that mean.
So wait, how do you wash yourself when you don't share?
Stop.
Stop everything.
How do you wash your body if you don't use body wash when you're not washing your hair then?
No, what the hell?
You just rub yourself with water.
What do you mean?
You don't know.
Okay, well, here's my memories.
Here's my context.
This is context.
Thank you.
I got flamed for this video by like real people.
That's not nice.
The thing, girls don't stink.
Like you.
A little deodorant.
Yeah.
But do you shower when you don't wash your hair?
Because I never do that.
I do that sometimes.
I did recently buy some body wash.
And I kind of understand.
Wait, what?
Just trickle down.
Well, this is how you know she's telling the truth.
She's consistent.
Are you joking?
No.
Body wash.
If you'd like to see it, I can show you in the shower.
It smells great.
What?
I bought the Avena one.
No, I'm not lying.
I just use the shampoo because it just washes down its soap.
So I'm just like, Leslie, what in God's name?
I mean, I'm going to be honest.
I actually don't use body wash most of the time.
Yeah, you can just, so I actually can't.
What do you use?
Like a specialty thing, man?
I try to, but even then, I don't use it much.
Okay.
Do you have dry skin?
No, no, I just have psoriasis and eczema.
Oh, okay.
I gotta be a little more careful.
Yeah, that's a medical condition.
You have no reason.
Well, nowadays, yeah.
So, so what here?
What do you mean nowadays?
It's like, I have eczema too now.
You're just gonna come out of it.
Nowadays, I use body wash.
I shower.
Can I tell you?
I shower every day, breaking news.
Okay, good.
I have probably five or six different body washes in my shower.
Yeah.
You gotta have a bunch.
I have a five-in-one Irish spring.
Dude, I used to do that trolling.
I was actually trolling.
I was trolling.
I used to do that.
No, no, no.
Straight up, like shaving, hair wash, conditioner, face wash, body wash.
And you are the prettiest motherfucker.
No, he has like all like even when we were dead broke.
Yeah, even when we were dead broke, this motherfucker would have like melon goods or whatever.
Melan Glass.
I'm like, bro, you live in a fucking you literally it's real.
Yeah, no, that is a real thing.
I used to use this.
Um, this motherfucker, dude, you think five in one's crazy?
Dr. Brawner, that's like a 78-in-one.
You can brush your teeth with it and shit.
No, check it.
Does that mean it doesn't taste that bad, or does that mean?
No, I tasted it.
It tastes like dog shit.
Because I literally fucking wash the wood floor with it.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's it.
This sounds dangerous.
It just sounds dangerous.
Yeah, and it's got like Bible passes.
Dude's wearing like goggles.
Yeah.
What's in there?
Can we get the 18?
It's like baby formula.
Okay.
Can you read what the 18 is?
What is it?
Like, there's obviously like shampoo.
There's got to be a website.
Go on the website.
First of all, it's been out since 1858.
Actually, it must be good if it lasted that long.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Can I show you what I wash my body with?
Yes.
The number one body wash.
Look up Milan and then a plus sign, goats.
Not that good.
I'm going to try.
It's good enough for women.
And then rum.
No, no, there's better.
Oh, there's better.
I'm going to describe something to you first of all.
Okay.
I used to do the fucking three in one, like whatever, four in one, five and one.
I didn't.
Yep.
I didn't know.
I didn't know any better.
I never done it, actually.
I thought that was amazing.
That right there.
That right there is the best smelling body wash.
It doesn't matter.
I used to use this as well.
No, I think Aesop is better.
Aesop isn't really.
I like scroll.
I use them for soap.
Sometimes I don't use soap options.
So how did I get on the Aesop wave?
I had a girlfriend and she was like, What the fuck are you doing?
Like she literally was like, because I would go in her shower and she had like trinkets.
You know what I mean?
There was like washcloth, which by the way, we're going to talk about in a second.
I want to know if you guys use that or not.
There was, there was like you literally had to do like an apothecary style like concoction.
You had to do alchemy in there.
Like she would have like little rocks or like little pebbles for your skin specific.
And you would you would literally like dip the fucking uh I don't know specific wash for your different parts of your body.
No, so she was rocking with like crazy shit, but it smelled really good.
So I was like, yo, I'm gonna take like the most simple shit from this.
And then that's how I started doing that's how I got on the Aesop train.
Aesop is good.
I have it.
It's very expensive.
I have Aesop in my shit.
I like them.
I like them.
I only have the hand soap.
I got not sponsored.
Yeah, not sponsored.
Your sponsor here.
Beep by.
I have their body scrub, their rose hip hair mask, their shampoo and conditioner, their body wash, and face wash.
Oh, and their vitamin C.
Oh, wow.
He like really has a lot of stuff.
How much does he spend on?
He has the Patrick Bateman routine, like straight up.
Straight up.
It ain't easy being this pretty.
I used to have terrible skin.
Then the worst.
Like acne?
Oh, like to the point where it was like, I still have scarring to the sides of my face.
I can't see it.
But so I'm like, it's no joke.
He put me on the Propecia train, too.
Patrick Bateman Hair Routine00:05:23
It's a winning.
It's a pill that makes you keep your hair.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
My hairline, my hairline was receding when I started on Twitch.
Really?
And yeah, and he was like, bud, your hairline's receding.
You got to get on it.
And I always knew he was taking it.
He's been taking it since like.
I've been taking it since I was 18.
Yeah, he's been taking it since he was 18.
It's a DHD blocker.
It's a type of testosterone that it blocks because DHD, when you produce it, is shutting off your hair follicles, basically.
It makes your body hairy and your hair, you know, not hairy, I guess.
So the pill makes you more hairy?
Nope.
The pill stops that from shutting off your follicles in the top of your dome.
And yeah, I used that.
And that was like the maximum thing that I did for personal care for the longest time.
Did your hairline just grow back?
I wouldn't say it grew back.
But it stopped.
Yeah, it stopped the fucking death march for sure.
I'd be completely bald right now if I hadn't been proactive.
Yeah.
Great hair.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Can you say that directly to the camera?
No, I'm kidding.
You both have great hair.
Wait.
Yeah, you hear that?
Great hair.
You have great hair.
Yeah.
So, so fuck you, Chatters.
Okay.
Yeah, bring him in.
Bring him.
We got a special guest.
Especially about the shower cap, though.
Like, does it actually not get any of your hair wet underneath?
We have to put your hair into it.
But like, I can take a like, I have like curls in and I can like.
Yeah, you throw it on.
You just like kind of bunch it up and just...
You might get the back wet.
Okay.
You wear a little shower cap.
You pull it up sometimes.
Not a lot.
Kind of cute.
See, it's like crazy.
Yeah, I can't imagine that.
I want to see that.
I do.
Yeah.
Naked.
We should do that behind the paywall.
It's like Kuno in a shower cap behind the paywall.
Wait, are we filming a separate Patreon episode as well?
Yeah.
Yes.
So the way this works is we just do like a regular one-hour broadcast and then after that, we just cut, restart it, and that's where we get all the secret stuff out.
That's where you can unload, too.
You want to say some spicy shit?
Get out of here.
They can't.
It's illegal.
Yeah.
We go to their house.
Yeah, we show up at their house.
They can't even, like, so no one tries to get them.
And we fuck their moms.
That'll probably be hard.
No, it's, yeah, no.
How many people are paying the Patreon?
Oh, it's possible.
We'll talk about some extra financial stuff behind the paywall.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
We'll share our financial security.
All our YouTube deals leaked.
I'm kidding.
You can become a Patreon member.
Yeah.
Got you guys.
And then the editor will get paid.
Woo, March.
Woo March.
Let's go.
Justice.
No, we're still not paying them.
Let's be real.
Okay.
We're going to, we beat the shit out of them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's payment enough.
So, shower-wise, are you guys familiar with the concept of a washcloth?
Yeah.
Do you use one?
Sometimes.
You don't use it.
No.
Can I guess what it is?
You don't even fucking.
You don't even shower.
I do.
We already debunked it.
But you don't even use soap.
Let me see if I'm using it right.
Well, I just want to make sure it's like you have it somewhere in your shower and then you rub the body.
Okay, I'm using a loofah.
Okay, I'm fine.
Doesn't Lufa have bacteria or something?
Isn't that what people say?
I don't know.
As long as you replace it.
Make sure it fully dries out and you just got to wash it.
Got it, got it, got it.
Okay, so go on about your washcloth.
Do you use a washcloth?
I use a scrubby.
Use a scrubby.
Nice.
I do not.
Oh, okay.
And from what I understand, this is a Caucasian activity.
That's what you're doing.
You're a straight-up hand.
Caucasian activity.
I'm a hand-to-body guy.
You can wash your ass with.
But my hand?
What do you mean?
Wash your hand ass with.
Yeah, you go in there with your hand.
Yeah, it's better.
Get a couple fingers in there, dude.
You have a separate ass scrubby?
I got an ass scrubby.
You have an ass.
Okay, respect.
That's fine.
Yeah, that's how you're supposed to do it.
But no, your skin has to exfoliate.
And in order to do that, though, I think what I realized is like, I think rich white people, at least, like, they don't use like washcloths or whatever, but they go and get like the fucking rocky scrubs, basically.
Which is what I've been, I've been using the body scrub.
That's what I use.
Oh, the ones that kind of hurt a little bit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've seen those.
Yeah, that's what I use to exfoliate.
Just with a regular body wash or an exfoliation?
Exfoliation is the it's called a body scrub.
Um, it's it's like a body wash.
A body wash is something you buy exclusively for your body, and like I'm describing these terms to you because we don't know what you know and what you don't know.
Um, I just okay.
Also, when you buy a body wash, like that is like including down there, too, right?
It goes it couldn't be used for everywhere.
There's not specific, like, yes, so all right, just making sure I'm doing it right.
Yeah, you're doing it right.
I am putting it in.
I think now you're doing your right.
Oh, god, okay, if you want to get crazy, you can get a pH balance wash down there specifically.
Oh, they have like summer.
I've tried it.
Have I tried summer?
Surprising.
I now go.
I'm going with the uh, with the Avena one, it's my favorite.
It smells real good, and I just go like how their stuff smells.
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So good.
I love it.
I just get a big glob of it.
I'm like, how do you guys editor?
How do you guys like being on YouTube so far?
We were literally just talking about how good it is.
Yeah, like it very well.
Okay, we were talking about how Twitch feels like uh sharks, like everyone's like, it's like a classroom.
I don't know, it's whatever would be, yeah, yeah.
Like, bro, it's all like just a lot more stuff.
It's what everyone checks every day, and they're like, How relevant is everybody today?
And people, you're having everyone is like tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people are just making these us like you know, they're having these thoughts every day when you're on YouTube, 52,000, but like, who's I get it?
What's what number?
I was just saying my peak today, it's not a big deal.
Let's move on, let's continue.
Yeah, I have I never checked that.
You clearly do you have your view account open?
Oh, fuck yeah, I check it like obsessively.
Oh, okay, so it's the only way to figure out.
Well, I definitely am an analytics demon, and we can get more into it on the on the uh Patreon side.
But I, of course, look at it, and the way I describe it is like this is my job, this is my performance.
It's the perhaps the only way to quantify something that is otherwise qualitative information, right?
Like, it's a very subjective thing.
So, if you're doing the you know, if you're doing the right things, then yeah, you're gonna yeah, I mean, there's so much more than that that impacts my mental health for sure.
Okay, yeah, I've been of the close my beer account for the past four years type of things.
I've gone, I've gone months without looking at my sub count.
I just no clue how many subs I have.
Yeah, same, same.
I rarely ever check.
I don't really look at my sub count at that much.
Like, it's just that's whatever.
Um, that's pretty consistent, but view count.
I do look that's fine.
I think a lot of people do that.
How people, how whatever is good for your own mental, because sometimes that shit really less than that.
I think it's more that I just want to keep doing what I like doing.
Yeah, if there's a game I like gets less viewers, I might start thinking, Oh, I shouldn't play this, but I don't want to do that.
So, come on, make up your mind, Farley.
What you want to eat?
He's just Being a little baby.
You want to close that door?
Will definitely?
Oh, um, so why did I bring some?
Oh, so you like YouTube more because it's like less of a fucking rat race, like a daily rat race.
Yeah, it feels like you're sort of doing your thing.
Like even Ray forgot I was streaming on YouTube yesterday.
Like, I thought you were streaming.
And I was like, I am.
Like, I checked Twitch twice.
And I was like, I think the way I describe it is I think it gives me a lot more freedom in almost every way, which I like.
Yeah.
No, for sure.
I mean, it depends on, like where you are at in your career and like where how like, if the viewers are like really, really like that's like what really important, that number, I don't think it's probably going to move to YouTube at the moment.
Also yeah, I don't know.
I was very mentally okay with that idea, like whatever it falls to.
For the most part, I've never been affected.
I adjust very quickly because I've been streaming eight years.
I've seen like I've gotten used to this this this, then this and this, so I've kind of just whatever it'll settle at, like maybe I'll be sad and then I'll I'll chill.
You know, we haven't been around, sorry.
I mean, I went full time in 2020, so kind of new same, actually same.
Yeah, I'm a newbie in the game, in the content, but I've been creating content in different.
We both have been creating content different platforms for a very long time yeah but um yeah I, I get what you're saying, though it is definitely.
It was definitely a little ratchet at times.
It gets a little, it gets a bit yeah, it gets a bit spicy where everyone's like uh, all right, what's the next thing?
What's the thing?
What are we?
What are we jumping on?
Yeah, I think the reason I like this is because it's just uh, my end goal was not even to be a content creator so like, I never really been like.
I mean I don't want to say I didn't want it like great, very happy that it ended up being a thing.
But it's not like I started streaming and was like this is what I want to do.
I want to be a big streamer.
I want to like make it my job um, so I think that's why, for me, it's like, yeah, very happy with the Youtube move, helps me closer, get to what I want anyway, which is just hopefully just hang out and have fun doing things.
Yeah, absolutely mad if I say that wow, Youtube man, why the hell would you matter?
Don't they want an ambitious streamer?
That's trying to?
No, I mean, I mean it's, it's how I got where I am right, like I just play games and have fun and I think that's all I want to do anyway.
Doesn't necessarily help that sometimes it makes it worse.
Actually, 100 not to be like ungrateful.
I think i'm very, very lucky um, but you know no, I I agree.
I mean it's, it's part of the reason why I don't like uh, get to unwind and do like gaming related stuff all the time because, like back when I see yeah, when I see well, I wanted to talk about that separately actually um, which a great segue.
But um, the reason why I stopped GTA wasn't actually because of viewer count, which is what many people think because I I had some like pretty, I was pretty still solidly like in the 20s, in the 20k range for playing video games for hours and hours, and I do that right now anyway as well, right even when I like, depending on the time of day or depending on what's relevant in the news, like I, i'm usually at a 30k base and then 20k when i'm playing video games, and it drops below that too,
depending on what game i'm playing or who i'm playing with.
Um, but that definitely does impact my mental health in a way where i'm like well, this is my job and you know, I just don't want to.
I don't want to do that if, if I feel like people just don't even enjoy it you know what I mean which is kind of fucked up to the 16k to 20k people that are watching right, but also at the same time, i'm like well, that sucks, like it's just not.
I haven't been able to crack the code.
Do you think there's any level of artistic expression to?
Or is it all just trash?
It's trash.
We just make fast food for the brain.
It depends on the content.
I think it depends on the brain.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, because I think, well, I, I do.
I didn't, I didn't put that question out as a way of insinuating one side or the other.
But the one thing that I think is very interesting is the numbers element of what we do rarely coincides with the quality of the content you're making.
Yeah.
I would think oftentimes some of the streams you're more proud of typically will be your medium performers, right?
And the ones that really are outliers in terms of viewership are usually because you are riding some kind of meta or because you are making brain burgers, right?
You're making fast food of the highest caliber that is just meant to be consumed and shed out.
And the surplus in your audience are usually people that you don't really want to stick around, in my opinion.
I don't agree with that last part, but because I love converting them.
You also love blasting them out of an airlock.
I do.
I do that.
You need fresh blood sacrifice fans a lot.
I bet.
I'm pretty quick on it, but that's the only reason why I've been able to maintain such a large community while simultaneously being able to have back and forth productive interactions with them, especially when it's prime time.
When we're doing fucking political content, political commentary, I rely heavily on my community building, and it would be a fucking cesspit if I didn't do that.
So that's also part of the reason why a lot of people can't do what I do.
Like even if they try, I'm talking like examples like, you know, the Ben Shapiros of the world.
They're very popular, very successful, but they have a really hard, they would never be able to replicate what I'm doing.
You have to be a little fucking mentally ill and a little unsound.
I just asked the question because I think it's interesting how few of us, self-included a lot of times, are making content without any kind of expressed interest into like an artistic expression.
Also, in the fact that I don't think that art thrives on our platform.
I think actually higher lift, bigger effort streams and projects are actually kind of deterred and looked at.
Germa.
Well, Germa is the outlier, right?
Germa is an incredible, incredible creator who is able to make these strange, Andy Kaufman-esque experiments in live streaming.
And to me, I view him kind of as like a personal inspiration because I would love to make more content that strange and takes a risk.
But it just doesn't seem like the other creators on this platform have the ability to do it or any platform in live streaming.
Or even if they have the ability, why would they do that?
No, yeah.
You're just going to.
Because you're never going to be incentivized to do such a thing.
I don't think you make more by doing that.
Yeah.
Which is you're not going to be financially compensated for doing that.
And you're not even going to get it because all matter of art is still important to reach eyeballs, right?
Like you still, what is the purpose of a content creator or an artist even is to is to be able to change people's minds or the way they view themselves or like impact them emotionally, right?
If you want to get down to the to the, you know, the skeleton of why you create art, I'm sure there are other reasons as well, but that's one of the main motivators.
Like art, it's like if a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound if nobody heard it?
You know what I mean?
It does, but it's, you still have to, you, you have to capture at least one eyeball for art to have made an impact.
My Worst Stream Ever00:13:37
Yeah, but I would say that there is a counter argument to that now where we have a whole generation of young people who have no ability to quantify art in any meaningful capacity other than how many eyes are on it.
No, I agree.
And that's, no, that's terrible.
Exactly.
Making something that is otherwise like quantitative uh, turning that into or something that's otherwise qualitative turning that into, you know, quantitative by looking at metrics is a really gross way to view it.
But, all right, close your eyes, huh?
All right, starting with each one of us, if you could make any piece of art tomorrow, not any worry of audience or cost.
What are you making, les?
Uh, making a song.
A song yeah, kind of song no, I would a collaborative song, probably.
Okay, who are you collaborating with?
I'll make the song with her.
Maybe Saikuno can make the song with me.
Maybe me and my friends could be no, no, no, no.
Who are you actually collaborating with?
Whoa.
Oh, anybody you want?
Anyone you want on the planet?
What do you want?
You have three seconds.
Taylor Swift.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Get Taylor on the phone.
Yeah, we have Taylor here, actually.
Oh, my God.
She flew in on her private jet.
Mary me, Julie.
Is that a Taylor's song?
Yes.
What's the last time you made a song?
In GTA, like two weeks ago.
Oh, yeah.
That's why.
Sorry, this is my segue into like, well, we're going to talk about GTA really quickly.
Like, one of my favorite things about it is my creative outlet.
I use it to make music.
I don't make any music under my me.
It's all under my character.
So you've never made a song as yourself.
Not really.
No, I'm not sure.
But it's good.
It's a cool way to offload it.
So it's like, oh, yeah.
It takes away the pressure, I bet.
Yeah.
And then I work, gotten to work with, like, legitimate, like, rap, like, Pean Money from the UK.
Like, we're on a song together.
Like, people just, you just don't collaborate with who are like in the city.
You're both artists.
Then you connect outside and then they like, you pass back tracks.
And then like someone's producing it who like killers and this and boom, boom, boom.
And you're like.
Make a song as you with the same people.
Yeah, no, I'm literally doing that now.
Yes.
Yeah.
That's all.
All right.
Good answer.
Good answer.
Close your eyes.
Okay, Saikuno, what about you?
Any art project?
It'd be hard to follow on that.
I don't think I, I'm going to be honest.
I don't think it's because your eyes aren't closed.
Well, even if I close my eyes.
Now you've got it.
Just not something I'm interested in, I think.
Really?
Yeah, I think I just play games.
I think no, you got some, but we're not going to talk about it.
Do I?
I think, well, you.
We'll talk about that.
We can cut it.
We can cut it.
Yeah.
I think what you're doing with the, we'll cut this part, VTubers.
Oh, that's not really art.
That's just cool.
That's still a unique expression, though.
It's just because I don't like getting ready for stream.
Yeah.
I just want to be able to turn my stream on without having to like fix everything and look okay.
Do you want to, can we talk about that or no?
Is it revealed?
The VTube thing?
Oh, no, no one loves what it looks like.
Oh, but you've talked about that you were going to do it.
Oh, okay, good.
So we can't talk about it.
I already have one technically.
I'm just getting a new one.
Oh, okay.
Cool.
All right.
Well, I thought maybe that was what I do.
Yeah.
Close your eyes.
Nothing.
Close your eyes.
Your eyes aren't closed.
Think about it for a second.
Before you say nothing, before it just...
Yeah, I mean.
Dude, I already do it.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm doing what I like to do already.
So the reason why I said, like, yes, I do think Twitch streaming is garbage for the most part.
It literally because here's why.
Because I legitimately feel, and I mean this, if I wasn't doing what I'm doing right now in the way that I'm doing it, I don't even know if I could get the same level of emotional fulfillment from like doing exactly what I'm doing at a higher level at like a legacy publisher.
Interesting.
And I do think that not to toot my own horn too much, but I do think that a lot of the stuff that I'm doing, merging like Twitch streaming, Twitch culture, all of that sort of thing with like immediate like breaking news coverage or just coverage in general and media analysis, media literacy, all of those things that I'm doing, I think are in some ways not exactly something that you can replicate.
And also, I do think it's pretty cutting edge.
Okay.
I have a question for all of you then.
Ready?
Have you ever heard of puring something?
Like when you nail something, it's just like perfect, top to bottom.
You tap into the void.
It's awesome.
So I feel everywhere.
Have you ever pure stream or what stream are you most proud of?
Oh.
Like, I can think of good streams, but like.
I can't even think of yes, you can.
Oh, please.
Are you modest?
Like, there's definitely some that are worse.
Like if I play Valorant and I lose 10 games in a row, it's a little bit of a worst.
I mean, there's a billion of those.
Yeah, there's a billion of those, though.
As far as like, I think for me, I literally just play games.
Okay, flip side.
Worst stream ever.
Go.
One that haunts your dreams.
What's that about for those of you who don't know?
Oh, my God.
Those of you that don't know, there's plenty that don't.
My audience is very different.
TLDR, I left a, like a, you know, what's, well, I usually just call it a good guy.
Stop looking at Marsh.
The old guitar under my bed.
What was the guitar?
Oh my God.
She said it's a bit more.
Oh my God.
Okay, we'll beep that out.
Beep that out.
We'll have to Google the clips.
Anyway, the reason is because I had a chair, like a normal, one of my viewers sent me a chair, a DX racer, and I built it.
And then I was putting it on stream and I was using the chair.
And then my chat, someone said, like, I miss your old chair.
So I was like, oh, oh, I'll switch it out.
So I pull out that chair and I go with my old chair, which is much thinner.
And then I'm like sitting on the chair.
And then I like look in the chat and someone's like, and I was like, oh, God.
But I had like, I don't know, 50 viewers, 80 viewers.
So I was like, oh, well, no one's going to notice.
I thought you're going to say you had 50 fingers.
No.
No, and then I know I wait to like cover it and I stream for three more hours.
And then I end the stream.
And then I find out that some YouTuber named Scarce like picked it up and it had 2 million views on it.
Oh my god.
And then all my friends heard about it.
Anyways, Haunted My Dreams.
And then Beauty Pie covered that three.
That's a good worst stream to have.
That was, yeah, that's my.
And, you know, I embrace it fully.
So that's that.
So I guess worst stream, but like in terms of like just general streams, like it ended up being funny.
Yeah, I just embraced it.
What's your worst stream ever?
Oh, for sure.
I, this one stream, I was really sad and I cried.
And that was the, that was the worst stream ever.
It was during, okay, it was during Among Us, but the thing I was bothered by wasn't even Among Us.
Just kind of was on top of it.
That was probably the worst stream just because I don't like to show myself feeling bad.
I want people to be like happy when they show up.
Yeah.
That was pretty bad.
I remember my worst stream.
Why'd you look at me like also Among Us?
I hate that game too.
I know, I know.
I hate it.
Keep going.
Keep going.
Oh, no.
Brand new streamer.
Oh, no.
Fresh and shiny.
And I was invited to my first game with OTV and I was so excited.
Was I there?
Was I there?
OTV.
You might.
Oh, yeah.
Was I there?
Oh, yeah.
I was so excited.
I was pretty good at the game.
Okay.
I might say that I was the best imposter ever.
Okay.
I don't know.
Okay.
But I was a crewmate this round in particular.
And I watch Hassan kill someone like next to me.
The very first.
The very first round.
I see where this is.
Everyone is alive.
There's one person dead.
And I go, hey, everybody, I just saw Hassan kill that person.
Now, I love all those people, but I didn't have enough clout to even have a voice.
Like, no one heard me.
And I was like, hey, guys, Will Neff here.
And everyone was just doing content.
First round goes by and no one votes.
And I go, that's interesting.
Second round, I watched Hassan kill someone else.
And I go, hey, guys, I am dialed in.
I followed him the whole time.
He's killed two people.
I can trace his steps just talking over him.
Like, I'm not even a human being.
Oh, yeah.
I was using that to my advantage.
I was literally just like, no, that's not, that's not what happened.
He's beaming over me every time I talk.
He's like talking louder than I am.
This goes on every round until it is just Austin Show, Hassan, and myself.
And I'm going, Austin, for the love of God.
I've said this every round.
And Austin is still doing content.
He's like, come on, guys, let's talk about this.
Come on.
And somebody's just screaming over at me this, like, just beaming over me.
And I finally, because I know him, he's my best friend.
I go, shut the fuck up.
Hassan, shut the fuck up.
And it's not like I'm like mad at him.
I'm just two guys.
I'm trying to shut him up.
And I'm like, shut the fuck up.
And there's this moment of silence right before I am about to speak for the first time ever in this game.
My first stream with OT.
Ogima unmute.
She was dead.
I'm death.
And he goes, Will, can you please chill out?
Can we not play like this?
And I go, that's it.
And I vote for myself.
And I go, get me out.
Get me out.
You all deserve to lose.
I don't want to play with you.
This is insane.
You're dead.
And Austin's like, wait a minute, guys.
And I'm like, I don't want to play anymore.
I don't want to play anymore.
I was gaslit, AP, girl bossed.
And you know what I did?
You know what I did?
This is also on the record.
I held on to that rage.
I held on to it.
OTV never invited me back for another game.
They didn't.
Oh, because they literally were like.
They thought I was a psychopath up until recently.
And they're like, oh, Will's a sweetheart.
But I held on to that rage.
I held on to it.
It was vindictive until Hassan Piker got AOC on his fucking stream.
And he got her on a stream and she was playing Among Us.
And everyone was like, oh, very famous politician.
Let's be nice.
I gaslit the fuck out of her.
I killed someone right in front of her.
And I said, oh, I saw AOC kill somebody.
And she was like, what?
She didn't know how to play the game.
And I just chewed into her mind like a termite.
And I turned everybody against her.
And it was satisfying.
Jesus.
So his origins.
Butterfly effects.
She like loses her dish because of it.
Oh, God.
All because of this one moment.
Oh, geez.
That was so funny.
As soon as you said Among Us, I knew exactly what you were going to say.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it was so awesome.
OTV thought I was like a rage monster because of this moment up until like very recently.
I do want to watch this VOD.
Yeah, it was so funny.
Was it really a bad day?
Was it a bad stream if you made your friends so happy?
Yeah, it was awesome.
I thought it was a good time.
It was a small stream.
I thought it was so funny.
The biggest group in streaming all think I was a fucking psychopath.
It was rough.
I was just cracking up the whole time.
I was like, oh, he got pissed.
Oh, God.
Oh, it was great.
It was great.
My best stream is January 6th.
No, worst.
You asked me my best first.
Okay.
Election.
My best stream was, no, no, not even the election cycle.
That was a lot.
I mean, but I, but when you said pure, when you're in the fucking zone, I mean, maybe you're gonna test this.
You've known me for like 10 years.
When I fucking turn on, go live, like when I, when I click start streaming, it's just like the air is sucked out.
I'm in, like, I go into like my mind palace and I'm just one with the content.
I'm, I'm basically dancing around.
Oh, he wanted me to pick him up.
Okay.
Yeah.
Tykuno is an IRL Disney princess because my dog only sits in my lap.
Yeah, he does not like me that much.
And I've known him for a while.
He wanted me to pick him up.
He's doing the thing.
It's happening.
Taikuno is that nice a guy.
You know when animals can tell someone just oh, Ryan Hour?
Hour and 30?
Oh, okay.
All right.
This is, well, you know, we can.
I did say I was a cat whisperer.
We can talk about my left.
We can talk about my least favorite stream, Behind the Paywall.
Oh, wow.
Wait, wait, wait.
To make it spicier, was it this week?
You'll find out on the paywall.
You'll find out after the paywall.
I got it for that question.
He'll answer that question after.
He wants to go with you to the free audience.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
But for the free audience, like, where can people find you?
You're fine.
You can go pee.
Youtube.com slash twitch.tv slash Buddha.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
Behind the Paywall Secrets00:01:02
I love that.
I keep thinking that's Barley walking into the wall and it's stressing me out.
Leave.
And Tykuna.
YouTube.
YouTube.
Or this.
Where do we wave?
Thanks for watching.
Yeah, behind the paywall.
Anyways, I'm walking, and then the other girl that was there, like, who was kind of like chirp, chiming in, like third-party girl, she sticks out her foot and tries to trip me.
That's yeah.
She sticks out her foot.
Did you kill her?
Bro, I was livid.
I like trip over her foot and I look at her and she goes, she like rolls her eyes at me.
Oh, we're going to talk about contracts.
So Leslie got more than $100.
I did get more than $100,000.
I got more than $100.
I also got more than $1,000.
I got more than $10,000.
Whoa, whoa, you got a little closer to the max right there.