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Oct. 10, 2025 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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braeden cooper sorbo
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elijah schaffer
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hugo lennon
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michael hennessey
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unidentified
What I just want to do, like I do at the start of every meeting, is I'd like to thank every single one of you from the very bottom of my heart, seriously, for being here.
You know, it's very good turnout.
I'm very happy with it.
And I would also like to express my gratitude for every single solitary person that's helped to make all of this happen.
First and foremost, where's Sam?
Sam, where are you?
Sam, Sam, I'd like to give a quick thanks to Sam.
He got a lot.
He got all these guys here.
You know, did a lot behind the scenes.
So we have to get a round of applause for him.
A quick show of appreciation for the police officers as well.
They came here.
They volunteered.
They're not here getting paid.
So they're doing us a great service.
We really appreciate them.
Second to last, every individual who has helped to promote this event in every way, shape, and form.
This includes Evan, my vice president.
This includes Mark, Dylan, Luke, Julian, Humphrey, and both Sam Lopez and Sam Lord, wherever he is.
He's all the way back there.
They've done a lot.
They've been putting up stuff all over campus.
Some of you may have seen, but maybe you haven't because YDSA, Students for Socialism, they've been tearing it down.
But despite all of that, we've been coming right back.
All of these guys, you know, so I really appreciate the perseverance and their determination to really help.
And then last but not least, I'd like to thank every single one of our speakers here today for making the trip out.
You know, I heard it was a little bit of a long ride, but here they are.
And, you know, for your listening pleasure.
They've been slandered, I think, a lot by some of the leftist people on campus, but they're here to, I think they can explain in their own words better than I can that all of that is just complete and utter lies.
So without further ado, I'd like to let them take it away.
Awesome.
elijah schaffer
Let's get a round of applause for that opening there, right?
All right.
Well, first of all, my name is Elijah Schaefer.
And the people saying that I was a neo-Nazi and a racist, I'm not that cool yet.
So I was like, well, I mean, hey, you know, if that's what you want to call me, you can call me what you want.
It's not my pronouns.
They want us to respect their pronouns.
Then they call us whatever they feel like, right?
Unfortunately, things are pretty rough here.
But if you guys don't know who I am, I essentially am like, I'm actually nobody, but I represent what a lot of people in this room represent.
It's not important about what I've done and what I've made.
It's that there is a rising section of right-wing politics of young people who are tired of having our country occupied by a foreign nation running our politics, our geopolitics.
We are tired of that.
We are telling the GOP, we are telling the establishment media that we're not going to take that and we are going to revolutionize and balkanize within our own movement, right?
And we are going to get them out.
So that is what I represent.
That is the movement that I believe we are together fighting for.
And I'll let my other people introduce themselves too.
We got a couple people from Rift TV.
It's a company that I run.
You got to look it up, RiftTV.com Monday, Wednesday, Fridays at 7 o'clock.
For those of you guys that are watching online, shout out to you guys as well.
We'll be taking a few questions from the Rumble and from the YouTube.
So check that out.
Anyway, I'll give the floor to Brayden.
unidentified
All right.
braeden cooper sorbo
Hi, my name is Brayden Sorbo.
I am a contributor with Rift.
I'm an actor, an author, and a creator online who just got his TikTok back.
I had 1.9 million followers doing conservative Christian political content that they banned in September last month.
And today, we actually just got it reinstated with some wonderful people at Rift and online.
The mission continues.
Christ is king.
And yeah, I'm just glad to be here.
Like he said, I'm a nobody.
I'm just here representing an idea and I'm proud to do it.
michael hennessey
All right.
Well, first off, thank you everybody for having us.
I'm very excited to be here.
This has actually turned out well.
Thank you for the police officers as well.
My name is Michael Hennessy.
I'm a producer at Rift TV, also a co-host on The Rift.
And I run an Instagram page called Snowflake News.
I don't know if any of you heard, but just happy to be here.
You know, I was lucky enough to be a part of this team.
Elijah's been, you know, really leading the way with our company to help get us on the right direction.
You know, right now we're getting attacked from multiple directions, which you guys have probably seen.
But the real thing we want to do is we actually just want to be America first.
We want to make sure that we're putting the news out there, you know, not holding back at anything unapologetically, but making sure the truth is there, you know, just being a light in the darkness.
So just very excited to be here.
And once again, Chris is king.
You're right.
hugo lennon
Yeah, thank you.
I'm Hugo, also known as Ozpil.
It's quite a full circle moment for me.
I am an Australian, but the reason I'm here is I'm a UF student, an exchange student.
And during my first semester was when Charlie Kirk came to this campus and I had the opportunity to debate him.
It was in after that that I visited Elijah in his studio and went on Rift TV.
And so, yeah, quite a full circle moment to come back here and in this reunion.
Obviously, not the best of times to be in this reunion, but nevertheless, yeah, glad to be here.
unidentified
Awesome.
elijah schaffer
All right.
So let's get started.
Okay.
Let's talk about some stuff because they're trying to make it that we can't talk about these kinds of things, right?
Try to post a juice emoji on TikTok and you will not be allowed to do so.
braeden cooper sorbo
You'll get banned.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, you will literally get banned.
But we got to talk about why we're really here.
Okay.
We are here, not because we just wanted to spend a bunch of money on travel and hang out with awesome people at University of Florida, which we love doing.
Give yourselves a round of applause for that.
Freaking awesome people.
I mean, Sam Lopez is here.
I'm hanging out with a Mexican.
Like, this is a big deal.
Let's get a round of applause.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Thanks.
elijah schaffer
No, but jokes aside, look, let's get serious for a second.
Why are we here?
We are here because even if you didn't know him or you knew him well or you worked with him or you've never seen him, we are all Charlie Kirk.
Charlie Kirk was bloodlet.
He was murdered.
He was assassinated.
And the FBI's official narrative probably is not true.
Okay.
So that's why we're here.
Because the things that we see, the things that we know, it's like everybody that's supposed to be, you know, giving us assurance.
The people that are supposed to be doing the investigating, the people that are supposed to be behind the scenes helping us figure out the truth are doing what the elites did about Epstein.
Don't ask questions like COVID.
Just get the shot.
If you don't get the shot, it's like you hate Charlie.
You know, if you're investigating, if you question the FBI, a month ago, we questioned the FBI.
We're patriots because we hated pedophiles.
And now when you ask, well, one of our own, one of our moderates got murdered, I'd like to know what really happened.
We are told he has magic bones like Superman.
And a random white kid who just had a fetish for transgenders and my little pony porn, which is, you know, kind of base.
I'm just gonna, it's like, whatever, right?
Climbed upon a roof with some of the highest surveillance and security of a very important man on the first start of his tour.
Now, let's just throw aside that the night before he was murdered, he was on a phone call with Josh Hammer and a rabbi who were not struggle sessioning him about his allegiance to Israel and what he was going to say on the tour.
Totally don't ignore all that.
Ignore all that.
Ignore all the fact that they lied about what Charlie was thinking when we could watch his own shows and they're telling us to not believe what he said.
Let's not talk also about how about the text messages that Candace released, and there's other stuff out there as well.
We'll see a lot more stuff coming out.
How about that that proves that they've been gaslighting us for an entire month about what Charlie was thinking and what he was doing?
Ignore all that and instead accept the fact that a kid climbed on a roof, disassembled a gun faster than what I saw, the record holder to disassemble that gun was able to do.
Took a bullet that Andrew Colvet, the manager of Turning Point Now, said would go through two moose or mees, whatever they are called.
And but he got stopped by a man of steel.
We're having movie references now.
You know, this is pretty crazy, right?
Does this sound a little bit like I believe in science, right?
And that if you don't want to get the shot, you're a science denier.
It's like when things start getting fictitious, you start wondering, is it fiction?
And I'm not saying it is because I want to be a good person.
And good people accept the narrative and they don't go anywhere.
But Charlie is dead.
He's dead.
All right.
You've probably all seen the footage.
They shot him in the neck.
He bled out and he died like a dog.
They killed him like a dog.
And what a glorious sacrifice he made.
And they wanted to mock us.
Whoever did this, whoever was behind this, whether it was a lone man, like they say, or perhaps maybe you care about the fact that there were police reports of all of those vehicles that were showing up at the killer's house shortly before with foreign plates, proving how about the 10 sock accounts that announced Charlie was going to get murdered at that time in that place.
Let's not talk about the fact that they are doing construction and you can't reconstruct the murder site because now they're doing sudden pre-approved construction on the area, removing all of the grass, putting in concrete, things that are normal, you know, when there's a high-profile murder, you just sort of change everything up right after.
We're supposed to just keep moving on, but we are not going to move on.
Okay.
We're not moving on.
They molested kids.
They killed Charlie.
Who's they, though?
I don't know, Kanye.
Who is they?
But that's what I want to talk about today.
I want to talk about the reason why we have to keep fighting, the reason why we're here and what motivates us.
And we all have different motivations up here, but I'll throw it to Brain.
We can go in the same order of just like, what is it that we, what is it that you're seeing that we're going through?
What is the drive that is keeping you going?
Because we all know what the problem is, but a lot of us are blackpilled or Ozpilled, I guess.
But we are blackpilled, and that's the demoralization campaign.
That's what this is about.
It's too deep.
They shot the moderate.
Anyone still freaked out about that?
They shot the moderate.
You're not safe on your campus.
I'm not trying to scare you.
I'm just saying they shot a moderate at a conservative state.
Okay, that's just true.
The Mormons, besides their weird underwear stuff, I don't really know what they're doing wrong.
You know what I mean?
So, no, I'm not no offense to the Mormons.
I wear underwear too.
So I like it, but I mean, I mean, it definitely sent a message.
So, Brayden, obviously, I'm just going to say, you know, he was just censored.
They tried to take away his voice.
It didn't take his life.
So we've all got to thank God today that we're alive.
But go ahead and explain what's driving you, what's motivating you to keep fighting.
Because quite frankly, at 24 years old with a famous dad and a career ahead of you, the stupidest thing I could have told a young man to do was to join right-wing politics and to oppose them.
braeden cooper sorbo
It's true.
And yet here we are.
It's crazy because I knew Charlie.
I worked with him at Turning Point a little bit briefly, just as an ambassador.
So I was able to travel to the events.
And it's not like we were, you know, really close, good buddies or whatever, but we were on a first name basis.
I saw him at every event that I attended or that he attended.
And there was someone who said, I can't remember who said it, was that we have two weeks to really fight back against the narrative before the momentum dies out, before the cause is sort of going to begin losing steam.
And that person was right.
I mean, look, we're what, a month out and people have already moved on.
I mean, don't get me wrong, there are things happening.
Hassan is electrocuting his dog, which is insane.
I mean, you know, free Kaya from the living room to the kitchen or whatever phrase would be appropriate there.
You have famous liberals electrocuting their dogs.
Letitia James just got indicted on mortgage fraud charges.
So, I mean, yeah, fantastic.
It is a little bit ironic that that's what she went after Trump on and said it was unfair.
But that's what I'm saying.
It's like we have all of these insane things and these developments that are all taking place.
And it's like one thing happens and everyone forgets what happened a day ago or a week ago or a month ago.
And because Charlie was killed a month ago, nobody, not nobody, but a majority of people just don't seem to care.
And so.
Like you said, he was a moderate.
I mean, there was that narrative online.
A lot of people were commenting like, you don't realize that Charlie Kirk was the moderate.
He was the guy who platformed literally everybody.
He was the guy who was willing to discuss whether or not he agreed with them, was willing to have a discussion with them.
And as someone who knew him, he was a genuine guy.
Like he didn't do that out of malicious intent.
He went there because he truly believed.
And this is one of his quotes.
He goes, when couples start talking, divorce happens.
When a country stops talking, it gets divided.
And so he didn't want that divide to happen because he was smart enough to realize that throughout the history of the world, every time there is a divide in a country, it ends in bloodbath.
And that wasn't something that he sought out.
That wasn't something that he desired.
And I don't think any of us desire a bloodbath.
None of us want.
And I'm coming at this specifically from the Catholic position on life, which is each life has human dignity, right?
We all have an undeniable gift from God, which is our life.
And that is where we are all equal.
We're not equal in status or whatever.
Like I'm taller than other people and people are taller than me.
So we have that initial human dignity that everyone should be allotted.
And unfortunately, a lot of people through the dehumanization of simple labeling of fascist, neo-Nazi, et cetera, aim to take away that dignity so as to essentially allow or even advocate for the deaths of others, which is insane.
I mean, I don't know.
I wrote a book called Embrace Masculinity, and it's essentially a Gen Z handbook for America.
And the very first chapter is called The American Dream is Dead.
The America Your Parents Knew No Longer Exists.
And it was this idea that we were sold a dream in that you go to school, you get a job, you get married, you have some kids, you buy a little piece of land, you get the white picket fence, you know, you work as a TV salesman or, you know, a milk delivery man, and you can support an entire family off of that salary.
And then you look at today and inflation skyrocketed, wages have stagnated, and nobody can afford the American dream anymore.
And so that dream that we were all sold is dead.
And everyone's trying to point blame.
Everyone's trying to point fingers and go, well, this person did it and this person did it.
And nobody's actually looking at the culprits that have destroyed the world in which we live.
And that's my motivation.
That's why I'm here is because we need people to realize that although there are differences and there are really, really strong differences that some people will never be able to agree on, I know that personally, I'll never be able to agree on certain things, even just from the Catholic moral perspective.
But I can also understand that there are people who wish for the same end goal as me, who want that same outcome and they have no idea how to achieve it.
They're completely wrong about that.
And so the goal is to achieve it the right way.
unidentified
You don't know.
elijah schaffer
Oh, I'm saying, you know, we can't necessarily say at this event who's causing all the problems.
braeden cooper sorbo
But a lot of the choke or raton, yeah.
Dude, they're very prominent in Boca, in Hollywood, where I grew up.
They're all over there.
elijah schaffer
It's an interesting case.
braeden cooper sorbo
Those Mormons.
unidentified
Go ahead.
michael hennessey
Yeah, the Mormons.
What brought me here, one, is, of course, Charlie Kirk.
We want to go ahead and continue his memory.
We want to make sure that we have open discussion, where we're actually able to gather together, show that we can have free thinkers, you know, just an exchange of ideas.
What really drives me, though, to be in this industry is good versus evil.
You know, I think we're in a time where we have pretty much good versus evil, where they always say strong men, what is it?
Weak men, strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make bad times, and the cycle continues.
And our goal, I think, is to step up and make sure that we are speaking the truth, that we are going there.
We can't look around and wait for somebody else to save us when we should be the ones actually at the forefront, making sure that we're making the difference, making sure that we're reaching out to who we need to reach out to.
I also have a history with the government too, because I'm a J Sixers.
So I was looking at about five years in jail.
So my relationship with them isn't really the best.
Thank God I was pardoned.
And I was very thankful that the Trump administration went ahead and pardoned me.
unidentified
I'm very thankful for that.
michael hennessey
Thank you.
But unfortunately, you know, I was hoping, I know, like a lot of us when he came into office that it was not like a savior mentality, because of course I believe only Jesus can save us completely.
But we thought that when he came in, we were going to have all this change.
You know, we're finally going to be heading in the right direction.
And what I'm seeing right now is the opposite.
I'm seeing us being brought into wars that we shouldn't be in.
I'm seeing our speech is being limited.
You know, you can, you're not allowed to question anything.
It's kind of like going back, as Elijah mentioned, going back to the COVID days.
And one thing I learned about being in this industry is anytime you're getting pushback like that, anytime you ask a question, it's like, whoa, we don't talk about that.
You're usually heading in the right direction.
But unfortunately, it's kind of like a, you're foretelling before other people know, like a season spoiler kind of in a show.
So, you know, it just really drives me is just trying to make sure that I'm making a difference that, you know, sometimes just like Jesus, we got to flip the tables over and make sure that the word is spread.
elijah schaffer
So yeah, I was going to say real fast, you know, I wanted to apologize to you guys because, as you know, they killed the moderate.
So we wanted to bring the extreme nature.
We wanted to bring that extreme heat.
But unfortunately, Brelon Hollyhand couldn't be here today.
So I just.
So you got stuck with us, right?
You got stuck with us.
braeden cooper sorbo
It's a shame.
elijah schaffer
It's really a shame.
unidentified
Anyway.
braeden cooper sorbo
We wanted to borrow his jet, but they said no.
hugo lennon
Yeah, so, I mean, as I mentioned, like when I first spoke, like part of me being here is the fact that I did debate Charlie from the right, which is unusual because typically, yes, the pink hair lady screaming at him about abortion or something.
But for me, it was about American identity.
And you do find it like rare on the right wing for people to platform those Mark called more radical than them.
But Charlie was capable of doing that, of engaging with people in those ideas, having Tucker come to his events, things which I think made his donors very unhappy.
But he was a moderate, truly.
But the reason why I think it hurts so much for the words, you know, him being labeled a Nazi, a fascist, all these things, and then to be killed, most likely for it, I don't know who by, but to be killed for those reasons is not only scary for the people who do exist, like further to the right of him, but it's also scary for the future of the right where we may not have people who want to platform necessarily those who are more radical than them, who won't be open to having figures like Tucker at their events.
And so it's a very precarious future for the right.
But one thing we can't do is allow the left's words to have a meaning, to allow ourselves to like cancel each other for being the radical.
Because if they're going to go after Charlie, they're going to go after all of us, right?
We are all Charlie Kirk in the sense that we all have the same targets painted on our back.
And so I think really his legacy has to be in part for the right wing motivation to sort of work with each other.
Because I reflected, I remember I wrote a post in the wake of his killing.
I said, you know, when he was here with us, I really didn't like him, to be frank.
You know, I criticized him a lot for many of his positions, but it was only in his passing that I realized that what I actually lost that day was a comrade in a greater fight that we're in, namely because he was able to work with us.
And so I think, again, yeah, the future of the right wing in a legacy of Kirk must be to recognize that it is a one struggles type situation.
And as Australian, the future of America is very important for our country down south.
So it would be good that it's an America that is free from any subversion.
It's an America that is free to act on its own will.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
They're changing the name to Austrindia because there's not a lot of Australians left when you go there.
Very, very interesting.
But the toilets don't get as much use publicly.
So that's good now, right?
Saving water.
braeden cooper sorbo
No lines.
elijah schaffer
No lines.
No, I actually was thinking that, you know, the right was so mad today.
I want to talk about some of this.
So the right was so mad about Hassan Piker, you know, abusing his dog.
And I'm surprised because, you know, dogs obviously are innocent creatures and people get upset when innocent creatures are killed, unless they're Palestinian.
So that's actually true.
But I do want to talk.
I want to talk about the reality of truth and what we're coming to and what's happening in this environment.
Here's the cold truth.
There is a group of very powerful individuals.
They are Zionists.
Some are Jewish Zionists, many of which are Christian Zionists.
That's a crazy thing a lot of people don't talk about.
The role of a lot of, just like we have white liberals who are a problem, right?
This is why it's not, this is why you can't simplify issues.
White liberals are a problem.
They don't have liberal family, crazy liberal family.
Yeah, I wasn't even allowed to see my own nieces.
I do a drive-by birthday party during COVID because I wasn't vaccinated.
You know what I mean?
Drive-by.
braeden cooper sorbo
My girlfriend had her uncle say you tore the family apart and now he won't speak to his own sister.
elijah schaffer
Yes.
braeden cooper sorbo
Because his niece is a problem.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, well, because, yeah, let's just say, you know, and people are literally dying, you know, to prove the point that they should have taken the vaccine.
So that's really awesome.
But I bring this up.
You know, we need to talk about the problem on our side, what's going on in our movement and why we're not successful.
Trump is in power.
We have the executive.
We have the legislative.
We have the judiciary.
We have everything.
And the same pedophiles are protected.
The same tax breaks are continuing.
The infrastructure is not improving.
We're not sending them all back like we were told.
And something's not changing, which means we all got hoodwinked.
We all fell for it again, right?
I mean, I did.
I'm going to admit this.
I fell for it.
I thought the Ukraine war was going to end on day one, you know?
And I'm really proud of Trump's peace deal that he made with Israel.
I also like the other 40 that they've agreed to.
Those were really good.
Those were great.
Whereas he was announcing it, they were literally firing Abrams tanks onto Palestinians that were trying to get food.
That's literally what's happening today.
Insane work.
But I want to talk, I kind of want to focus here on the idea of we're fighting an enemy bigger than a Republican.
We're fighting an enemy bigger than a Democrat.
We're fighting people that are above the law, that do not respect our borders, that do not respect our Constitution.
It's not only just a piece of paper, it's completely irrelevant to them.
And we're finding out that we're not going to win this country back by elections.
Why are we not going to win it back by elections?
Let's start with the problems of what's going on.
Well, we have a friend named Brandon Herrera, individual, a very big YouTuber.
Maybe you guys know him.
He's a gun guy.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And, you know, they were running for a congressional seat.
It's a true story.
In the middle of bach ass nowhere in Texas.
Okay.
And he was an America first patriot, a young guy.
He's a Chad.
These are the kind of people that we need, right?
In office.
An American success story, right?
Rich guy, gets a new YouTuber, has guns.
What's not to love?
Well, he was very popular.
And he was running to be a Republican.
Well, what happened is, is an APAC.
You guys know about APAC?
Yeah, you do, huh?
Exactly.
We all know now.
We all know.
An AIPAC handler came up to him and they had a dinner.
It's really nice when someone wants to pay for your meal, right?
Just send just a pro-Israeli nice guy to come pay for your dinner.
And he was grilled about his support.
And he said he's not against any country.
He believes people have the right to have a homeland, which is what they say Zionism means, right?
That's what they say.
So do you believe the right to have a homeland?
Hey, I'll tell you this.
For all of history, here's my answer.
Land belongs to those who conquer it, just like our land belongs to us, okay?
This land is ours because we conquered it.
If they conquer it, but they have to do it without our help.
They have to do it without our tax dollars.
We're not voting for that.
They're on handicap mode.
So if they stop taking our money and they conquer it, okay, fine.
I have to respect the rule of law, the rule of war.
I'm not some crazy leftist, pro-Hamas guy who's trying to wipe off all the Jews from the earth or some anti-Semitic guy that just wakes up and hates all Jews.
Although some of them are annoying.
Some of them dogs wow, but yeah, some of them are.
I will say, they ask him, you know, and he says nothing anti-Semitic, nothing anti-Israel, nothing at all.
This is a small, insignificant house race that was always going to be Republican.
Well, what did they do?
Apex said, you know what?
Last minute, we should run another candidate because you're not telling us that you support enough to send money to that country.
Let's put $1 million into a campaign race that's more than all the parties combined that they spent in this race.
Let's just throw a million dollars in a small little town, a small little district to ensure that we have somebody who really loves America, somebody that we control.
And he won by like several hundred votes.
The guy did.
And they have these people that control our politics are doing it through the control of the primary system, which is why elections don't matter.
Why don't elections matter when someone asks you?
Because the candidates that are chosen as the primaries may be different on abortion, but these people don't care what you do with your babies.
They might be different on the days and the times that you can buy liquor.
Okay, so what?
What they care about is one thing and one thing only: that you are blackmailable, sellable, controllable, and that you will bend over, you will get on your knees, and you will do as they please like Hassan Piker's dog.
Okay, they put a shot collar on you.
They put a shot collar on you.
And this is very real.
And what we're going to talk about, we're going to talk about some of this gaslighting, what's going on.
An unfortunate reality happened when you see things like that is it's really unfortunate for them.
They have billions of dollars, maybe trillions, and networks of influencers.
We have these.
We each have two little eyes.
And we're noticing, right?
We're like, holy shit.
Guys, we don't have a country.
I'm not trying to blackpill you, but we don't have a country until we have control of our democratic system.
And we don't have control of our democratic system.
We are not a republic.
Well, we're out here starving, can't pay rent, can't pay for things, inflation's out of control.
We're sending troops today to Israel.
And good, because our troops were promised to them 3,000 years ago.
They were promised, guys.
They were promised.
And this is not an anti-Israel speech.
This is not an anti-anyone speech.
This is a, we're allowed to talk about Qatar's meddling.
They love that one.
We're allowed to talk about Russia.
The Democrats love that one.
We don't talk about China a lot anymore.
I mean, Alex Jones does this.
CCP.
They're taking us over.
So we're not going to talk about China.
But there's one specific occupier that we are not allowed to focus on.
It'll get you blacklisted, blackballed, and taken out.
Here's the thing.
It did get me blacklisted from speaking at Turning Point.
I'm on their website.
I'm an approved speaker.
I'm allowed to speak.
And they were telling people they could not book me or Candace Owens to speak at their clubs.
Why?
I wonder why.
Two weeks before Charlie was murdered.
I'll pass the mic.
Two weeks before Charlie was murdered.
Why am I bringing this up on a Charlie Memorial tour?
I get a call from the top dogs at Turning Point.
The mouthpiece for Charlie, spoken to Charlie.
Charlie was changing his mind.
There was pressure from donors, I was told.
They were very mad at him about letting people speak freely on the stage at Turning Point, but he wanted to be democratic.
He was going to be changing the way he did things at Amphes.
And I was unblacklisted two weeks before his murder.
Isn't that funny?
The people that the donors didn't want boxes were unblacklisted.
I was invited.
We were all invited to go set up at this conference.
Things were changing.
Things were moving.
And I do believe that it's not just a coincidence that at the very time Charlie was changing and ready to make his stand, as we all saw in those text messages, he happened to lose his life.
But unfortunately, for us, we don't have the bullet because he had Superman magic bones in his neck.
It's all kind of suspicious.
braeden cooper sorbo
Is it true that the autopsy wasn't?
Because I saw that there was no official autopsy done.
And so that was at least the story that I witnessed was that they told the coroner not to perform an autopsy on the body of Charlie Kirk, that it was too, you know, too serious, too, oh, everyone's grieving and don't touch, you know, leave it all alone.
But from what I know, every single high-profile case that ends in the murder of somebody else, everyone is immediately jumping in to find the solution.
And so I always question the fact that we aren't given any sort of, like, obviously, you know, the cause of death.
It was a bully weather.
It was a 30-odd six, which goes through two moose, me, mice, whatever, is just crazy.
But the fact that, like you said, there is no questioning any sort of narrative.
There is no, there is no allowance of discussion.
And this idea of, well, you know, it goes back to what I was saying earlier with the American Dream no longer exists.
We don't have, it's the illusion of choice.
I mean, I'm working right now helping someone run a primary campaign down near where I live.
And the main guy in this district is complete establishment.
And they want to run him against the incumbent because the incumbent will easily beat him.
And the incumbent, you know, the redistricting drew it from a plus 17 blue to a plus three.
So it's incredibly flippable.
It's 100%.
We could flip it if there wasn't, you know, meddling.
And yet, even if my client were to go, okay, well, actually, yes, I'm this, that, I'm pro this, I'm pro that.
Give me all the money.
I'll take it.
It wouldn't be enough because it would be too late to the primary to beat the guy that they want up against the incumbent.
Because the guy they want against the incumbent, the incumbent has already gone up on social media and said, oh, I could beat him easily.
And everyone's got his back.
And so they know, like, it's almost as if it's being waved in your face that there's nothing you can do about it.
And yet everyone is still, you know, going, well, what about, what about, it's like you're focusing on the highest possible priority thing, which we all want to get done too.
But how the hell are you going to reach the thing that's all the way up there if the thing literally happening in your city right here?
elijah schaffer
I just want to just want to clarify, though, by the autopsy that they do, they allegedly did do an autopsy, but the state of Utah doesn't publicize autopsies.
That's what I've heard.
Who knows?
But I just want to add a little clarification.
braeden cooper sorbo
Yeah, I found an audio transcript of the coroner saying they denied him the ability.
So maybe they brought someone in and Utah still has the laws where they don't need to.
But once again, it goes back to this idea of why are we not allowed to challenge any sort of narrative?
Why do we not have the ability to question things?
I mean, a lot of guys in this room feel, guys and girls feel the same way that we all do up here, where it's not even that, oh, well, all of a sudden, you know, I'm going to become this super far radical.
And maybe, maybe you are, you know, not saying any of us are or anything.
But like, that shouldn't be the point, right?
That shouldn't be the decider of whether or not you're allowed to say things on social media.
And yet it is.
It all hinges.
It's all completely dependent on one thing.
And we're not allowed to say why or what.
michael hennessey
So, yeah, I mean, the real thing that gets me crazy is, you know, with the Democrats and Republicans, a lot of times we can't agree on anything and they continuously fight, always back and forth, men in women's bathroom, men, not in women's bathroom, whatever the subject may be.
But when it comes to things that are involving Israel, so for instance, like TikTok, you know, immediately with TikTok, they're like, China's listening to us.
China's, you know, sinking into our calls.
But it was never about China.
It was about control.
It was about what was leaking out from Gaza and everything.
And me personally, I don't have anything against Jewish people at all, just like I'm not, you know, nothing against Palestinians as well.
But what I am is I'm America first always.
And what we run into with that, I mean, please shake it.
You know, when you see these organizations that are actually in there, so for instance, like APAC, I don't know if you guys seen Matt Gates' recent interview where he talked about when he went to an APAC meeting, they actually put barcodes on him as if like they're shopping for the next politician.
You know, that's really what we're seeing.
We're seeing that we have this foreign influence that we're not allowed to talk about, that are taking control.
You have people like Brandon Herrera who are who are unfortunately being pushed out.
You even see the Trump administration.
You know, me personally, I like Thomas Massey.
I like what Thomas Massey has been saying, trying to, you know, really watch out for the American people.
And what are they trying to do?
Trying to get him out.
They're trying to make Marjorie Taylor Greene look like she's crazy.
So if you don't follow the narrative that they have, if you're not on that team, then they really want no part of you.
It was never about make America great.
It was about making Israel great.
And there's enough of this.
You know, we've sent enough of our family out to these wars.
We barely, we struggle to put food on our tables.
We see our streets being, you know, just taken over with either crime, drug addiction, you know, whatever it may be, but there's no focus on that.
It's just how much more can we send overseas?
And this goes for everything.
I am not for Ukraine.
Actually, I'm a big person.
Like, I only think war should be like the last result and we should only be worrying if it's happening to our country.
I don't think we need to be going out to other countries and fighting their battles.
I don't think we need to be going out and spending all this money on them.
I mean, we're already enough in debt.
So my big thing with this is that, you know, unfortunately, our politicians have been occupied.
We've seen it too with our organization that we started.
We're trying to be the first non-Zionist controlled organization.
And immediately since we've started, I mean, we've been attacked.
There's things I can't really get too much into, but we've been attacked every which way.
Contacting our sponsors, contacting the people that we've had partnerships with, and just saying, you really got to put an end to these guys.
And when we talk to these organizations and we ask them, we say, well, you know, what's the thing that we said that really tipped it off?
Did we offend your company?
Did we offend this?
Did we offend that?
And it's always just, we're tired of apologizing for you guys questioning Israel's motives, you know.
And the big thing they like to do too, which we've seen with Black Lives Matter and everything else, is they like to label us with names.
You know, if you were against people riding in the streets that I guess, you know, AOC said they were getting loaves of bread, then you're racist.
Anytime you question Israel, now you're anti-Semitic.
So it's the thing is, is we're not attacking, you know, just because someone's a Jew.
It's nothing like that.
What we are is we're questioning the Israeli government.
Just like when the Biden was in office, I was against what Biden was doing.
I was against the Democratic administration that they had in place.
But I was never once called anti-American.
Like I hated all Americans.
It was just speaking truth against the government.
And the one thing they like to do is they like to divide us.
So unfortunately, right now, the way it is, is like having two sports teams.
You know, you have both football teams and you got to agree with both 100%.
And it doesn't allow any kind of open communication.
It doesn't anything because they want to divide us.
A country divided is easily conquered.
And that's what we're seeing more and more with that.
hugo lennon
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
hugo lennon
I mean, people can't allow themselves to be silenced by labels, whether it's, you know, just being shut up because they get called anti-Semitic or racist.
I think people need to start advocating for their own interests to not lose their country because they're scared of being called something, which often, as you describe, is not based in reality.
And it is used principally as a tool to get them to shut up.
I will touch back on what I said earlier about Kirk platforming people, being an advocate of open discussion, even with radicals on his own side, and obviously with radicals on the left.
It's been quite disheartening in the wake of all this to see the side that supposedly champions free speech like Kirk have let TikTok been sold to a consortium of companies that principally probably clamping down on free speech.
It was always ironic that the Chinese app for a time had more freedom of speech, certainly on the key domestic issues and international issues for America.
It's now been sold.
The key investor in that, the controlling investor is Oracle, headed by Larry Ellison.
I mean, that doesn't come that's only come down very hard on one thing, and that is anti-Semitism.
And that means a lot of things.
And again, things which often aren't based in reality.
And one of those things that will clamp down on it, as we've already begun seeing, is criticism of a nation.
And you said earlier, you can criticize any nation, China, Russia, this nation, which you're in now.
But there is one you can't.
And you cannot call yourself America first unless you support a freedom of speech on social media, which means you can criticize those nations equally.
And so for the young people in this room, like myself, myself, TikTok was the reason I could get Elijah's attention and get to a rift studio.
It's disheartening to see that we haven't learned our lesson, which is to actually advocate for more freedom of speech.
Now we're seeing it being clamped down.
And the people who herald Charlie Kirk as being this man of open discourse are the same ones tacitly supporting in their silence the sale of TikTok to an entity, to a nation, which is uniquely hostile to the freedom of speech that Americans have so far enjoyed.
braeden cooper sorbo
I want to touch one thing real quick before you go.
It was really interesting.
And like when you were talking about, you know, our allies and helping out, no offense to our allies, but we've helped them long enough.
We don't care about them.
Like we have enough internal problems.
If my house was burning down and so is my neighbors, I wouldn't be running over to water his while mine was still going up in flames.
Like, I'm sorry, you're going to have to deal with your own problems on your own.
And so I think a lot of us feel that way where it's like, we don't, unfortunately, we just don't care.
elijah schaffer
But what if God told him that he was promised your water 3,000 years ago?
braeden cooper sorbo
3,000 years ago.
unidentified
Right.
elijah schaffer
What would you have to say then?
Are you really a good Christian?
braeden cooper sorbo
Yeah, God promised me that water 2,000 years ago.
elijah schaffer
You know, okay, yeah.
So Tim Pool asked an interesting question.
And any Timpool fans here?
Anyone like Timpool?
Some people, you guys look reluctant.
Tim's a nice guy.
Tim's a nice guy.
Yeah, I was going to say, I know why you guys are more Brandon Tatum fans, right?
braeden cooper sorbo
Brandon Tatum is the guy.
unidentified
There you go.
braeden cooper sorbo
That's.
elijah schaffer
They're even calling him Talmud Tatum.
unidentified
All right.
elijah schaffer
Officer Talmud, they call him.
unidentified
I'm not saying it.
elijah schaffer
They just do.
But yeah, so, you know, we've got a real bullshit campaign going on publicly, right?
With these, with these influencers.
You know, I always come out and be honest.
You know, I lobby.
I'm actually, you know what's so crazy?
I was lobbying for the Democratic Party today.
They wanted me to try to get Mayor Eric Adams to join the race again.
This is how crazy it's getting.
The Dems are tapping me.
I know I've switched.
No, I'm just going to want Zorhan Mamdani a, you know, street shitting kind of, you know, he eats with his hands.
unidentified
It's not good.
elijah schaffer
You know, I'll leave it at that.
No, but he's a socialist.
That's really what's bad.
This guy's a Marxist, right?
He's he's evil.
Yeah, he's, what is it?
michael hennessey
He's also a rapper.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Oh, yeah.
braeden cooper sorbo
Is it bad for me to say I kind of want him to get in so people see how bad it gets?
Oh, dooming a little bit.
elijah schaffer
Do you not already know how bad it is?
braeden cooper sorbo
It's very, it's very bad.
But when you're teaching like Sodom and Gomorrah or whatever, you know what I mean?
elijah schaffer
New Yorker in 2000 looking at the Twin Towers.
But if they just came down.
How bad would he get?
I don't want to know.
No, no, but I'm saying, you know, you know, we're out here.
I'm open about it.
I love you.
I'm a political consultant.
I work out in this world.
I talk about it.
You know, the majority of stuff I say, I'm not paid to say, but it's pretty clear when I am.
And I do work with the Republican Party, work in politics.
I just find it to be weird when people hear me say that.
It sounds so foreign to them because nobody else is saying it.
This is a weird thing.
Nobody else is saying that they work for anybody, but they all do.
And I know them all.
And I know how much they make.
And I see them in the emails.
And I know what they say and what they do.
So let's talk about the information warfare, the eighth front war, right?
That we'll end with this and we'll do some QA.
We'll talk a little bit about this.
So I'm with the eighth front war and what we're up against.
So we're prepared.
So, but Deten Young has declared war on us.
I don't know if you guys saw us on Alex Jones like two times in a row because one of his buddies who happens to also be a Boca Raton resident, if you know what I mean.
Del Rey, maybe too.
braeden cooper sorbo
They don't go near Del Rey.
elijah schaffer
It's like he lives in South Florida, if you know what I'm trying to say.
But yeah, he was on Alex and he was undermining me.
He was basically telling people I'm like schizophrenic, which is base.
It's like, yes.
Wait till you see me be schizophrenic and hold my firearms.
Exactly.
That's crazy.
braeden cooper sorbo
I'm complicated with them.
elijah schaffer
Don't worry.
No, but yeah, he's trying to undermine me.
And I told Alex, I text him, like, dude, hey, this is a foreign op, a foreign op who's acting like a guest and they're trying to undermine my position on Netanyahu because they are working with a foreign agency and they are using your platform to subvert your followers.
Fuck you.
And he's like, all right, fine.
Then come on the show, defend yourself.
So I go on day one.
I tell them the truth about this eight-front war.
I show them clips they don't believe exist where Netanyahu jokes about droning people like you and me here.
He talks about now how they can't just do that, which is they'll find a way, but they can, you know, unfortunately, oh, sorry, Netanyahu.
You can't just drone, you know, again, I'm not brown enough to kill be killed by you yet.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's his thing.
braeden cooper sorbo
Or young enough.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, or young enough.
It's like, particularly likes them this short, innocent and brown before he kills them.
But, but I know you're sweating.
I know you're first, but you guys sat in the wrong spot, you know?
unidentified
Sat in the wrong spot.
elijah schaffer
But no, but he says he has an eight-front war, and he talks about this new digital warfare.
He's hiring, you know, people.
And we're talking about where the money's made.
Listen, guys, I get offered.
I tell people this.
You'd be like, what do you Qatar's funding all these people?
Qatar is giving all this money.
I will retweet like aid to Trump, E.L. Yacobi, who says this.
And I retweet and I go, name 10 Qatari influencers.
It's like they're in books, you know?
It's like, it's like, and then, and then, like, Laurel Loomer said the same thing.
She's like, everyone's just being paid by Qatar.
I'm like, name one.
Name one.
And they're like, Tucker Qatarlson.
You know, like, okay.
He's like Limericks like a child.
What the?
What's wrong with you?
That's not, that's not evidence, you know?
It's like, who's your friend?
Kim Kardashian.
It doesn't make it true, right?
It's just a weird, weird obsession they have with that guy.
He's a Chad, though.
But the truth of the matter is, is that this warfare, people are being bought.
I'm going to say this, I confess this to you guys.
There's a lot of money floating around right now.
A lot of money floating around in the right-wing influencer space.
It's a good time to be a right-wing influencer because there's a lot of money available.
There's a lot of money going in to ramp up hatred towards Muslims right now.
I'm not joking.
A lot of money.
Been offered a lot of this kind of stuff.
It's a lot of money to talk about Qatar's influence in our education system.
There's a lot of money going around, a lot of money going around from a lot of agencies, multiple, five, six, seven different agencies putting money in to such an extent that he said six, seven.
Why would you do that?
braeden cooper sorbo
It's good to know these are college students.
elijah schaffer
Whoever got that, that's that.
unidentified
But, but being college is so gay.
elijah schaffer
It's a terrible time of life.
But, you know, you'll get over it.
But, you know, you go into this and you look at what's happening.
And I'm just telling you, I tell people, like, what's our proof that these people are buying out our influencers?
I'm telling you, they're trying to buy me out.
And I've told this story publicly about how I was asked to give money by an IDF-linked group to lie and cover for the murder of three teenage boys.
This is like a true story.
So I for a lot of money.
This is right as right as people realize this wasn't about the hostages.
Remember that time?
You're like, wait a second.
How many families have we murdered?
You know what I mean?
Like, what's going on here?
Usually one's a little too many.
And it's like, oh, 60,000.
And I was like, wow, that's pretty tough.
You can't trust that number.
Why don't you let us do the audit?
Because we'll be honest about ourselves.
You're like, okay, well, I believe the UN this one time.
But you go in there and, you know, there's three teenage boys walking.
You can see this on.
The footage is out there.
We did release it.
And this is like so.
I shouldn't be laughing, but it's like they take a laser guided missile.
They use a missile, like a million dollar missile.
Like, and like shoot, like blow up the kids with a missile.
Like, like, it's not even with a gun.
Like, it's just teenagers walking, like, like hanging out.
It's like, just blow up.
And I was like, holy shit.
When I saw the footage from the people, like, we got to release this.
We got to release this.
Like, yeah, we got to release this.
They're like, because those were Hamas.
And I go, those were kids.
That was our children.
unidentified
And they're like, yeah, but yeah, keep watching.
elijah schaffer
So then you keep pressing play.
And it's like, there's like one kid, like partially alive.
And then they do a second missile.
And just his body goes exploding everywhere, arms flying and stuff.
And I was like, I was like, what the fuck?
Like, we got to stop this.
He's like, you paid for that.
No, I'm just kidding.
It's like, I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm freaking out.
I'm going, this is, this is horrible.
I didn't see all the, this is before all the violence got released.
I'm like, they just murdered you.
Like, who did that?
Where is this?
It's like, you know, I got good news for you.
Do you know what that second?
Do you know what that second explosion was?
That was a hand grenade that the kid was holding that flew off his hands when the first missile hit.
I was like, we're fighting hand grenades with missiles now.
That's crazy.
And I was like, yeah, I have one problem for you.
Could you please send me the high-resolution footage?
This is very bitmapped.
I get it sent.
I go, yeah, there's only one issue to this narrative is you can see the missiles.
Like, here's the frame.
Here's the frame.
These are missiles.
You know, they're visible.
They're kind of big.
You know what I mean?
We can see missiles and that's not a hand grenade.
And I go, who the hell would push this narrative?
Who is as stupid to push this nonsense out there?
And then you go up there, some of your prominent people, I think it was like CJ Pierce, one of these guys, someone was putting it up there.
And you see the post.
Oh, this is when I was in Australia.
And you see, like, you see people like putting stuff up.
And you're like, and it just wasn't true.
You know, it just wasn't, it just wasn't true.
And it's like, you just see people, you know, I could tell stories.
The Russian, the Russian embassy and I was in Australia tried to get me to lie and make up a fake story, the fake video that was faked about violence at Trump rallies.
And this is true.
I had to get the FBI involved in this.
And then I get on, I'm like, who, how could anyone fall for this?
This is such a stupid psyop.
I wake up the next, got like 20 million views, and someone shared the story.
They took the money from Russia.
It's not just Israel.
I'm saying people are taking foreign money, man, and just spreading lies.
These are worse than traitors, and they need to be dealt with.
We have these traitors.
These online influencers who are taking money are treasonous people.
They are treasonous people who are taking blood money to sell out their own country and to destroy our future, our prosperity, our birthright, right?
This is what they're doing.
Yeah.
I'm surprised you clapped.
I'm not even Hennessey.
But someone said in the chat, we should just clap after everything Hennessy says.
Yeah.
No, but also end on this.
We'll take questions in a second, but I am telling you as somebody, I'm staking my reputation on it.
There's more of the story about Charlie Kirk and more of it's going to come out.
I will stake my reputation on the fact that a lot of people are being bought out and they're selling out and they're not being honest about it.
And I'm going to tell you that you are in a war, a digital warfare for the truth.
And this is not corny.
It's not like, you know, I'm not going to go on the news right as Charlie Kirk's death's announced and smile.
I'm ready to fill his shoes.
I'm not feeling his shoes here.
Okay.
I don't have a Rolex.
I don't have private jet.
I'm a normal guy who grew up very poor, low-income in LA.
I didn't even realize I wasn't Mexican until I was nine.
That's like where I grew up.
It's true.
I was waiting for the color to come in.
God, why?
No, okay.
But got lucky, you know, skinned okay, but but uh but but like you know, him as well.
He grew up super impoverished.
His father's a celebrity.
He doesn't count, but uh he's rich.
Don't listen.
Now, it doesn't matter about wealth, right?
I'm not putting it.
It doesn't matter if he came from wealth or from status or from whatever.
We're all finding the same thing.
It's like our parents' experience is not determinate of what we are going through, right?
So whether your parents was hard or easy, your life is freaking difficult.
And it's going to be very difficult.
It's going to be very hard.
It's going to be very challenging.
And I just want to leave on this with you questions and answers.
Please, please, please remember we are winning the information war and the information, what people hear about, they think about.
And eventually, if they think about it long enough, they act on it.
So don't discount your position.
Wake people up, red pill them, J-pill them, tell them the truth.
Don't be afraid to watch people like Nick Fuentes, okay?
Don't be afraid to watch people like The Rift.
Don't be afraid for people to tell you that you, who you are, and what you are, that you don't fit in because you're not going to get a job.
Guess what?
We are deciding who the Republican Party is.
We are deciding who the right wing is.
You don't get to tell us anymore.
Okay.
You can sell us out.
You know, I have someone that works in the auditing at the White House for these, you know, works around the auditing for influencers who can come in.
Do you know that if you have just one post critical of Israel, they don't invite you?
So I'm one of the most published, you know, Antifa journalists that uncovered huge networks of them.
I've been, you know, had guns pointed on my head on camera.
I've had shit beat out of me.
I don't get feeling in my face.
I got pistol whipped.
It's crazy stuff, concussed.
And I wasn't allowed to come to the Antifa roundtable.
So I was like, Barbara, you know, it was supposed to be five years ago.
It's like, Antifa in 2000.
This is crazy.
You're going to tell me, like, do you know Black Lives Matter might be bad?
It's like, oh, really?
No, but you see that there were all people of one persuasion for every topic, everything.
They're choosing who they want and they're letting us know we're not welcome in their party.
Well, guess what?
To all of those people who are not welcoming us, I say this: fuck you.
The populace is on my side.
We are going to replace you.
We're going to be like Indians in Australia.
Come in, buddy.
No, we're going to replace you because we are the people of the United States of America and we are going to win.
So please don't give up because we only lose when we give up.
And so more of us are going to die.
They're going to kill more people.
Bad things are going to happen, but we aren't going to give up hope.
Our founding fathers did not give up because they were shot and killed.
But a founding father, actually, they kidnapped his wife and his daughter in the house, lit his house on fire, pulled his clothes off.
He ran naked into the field and had to leave his family in prison.
And he still signed the Declaration of Independence and still fought while his family was in prison.
He was naked and lost everything.
He fought for us.
So, oh, you got called a mean name.
You got fired from a job.
You know, oh, you didn't get invited to the dinner.
Okay.
You know what you say when people kick you out?
I don't want to be there anyways.
I want to bring us to them.
So please stay strong in that.
Please stay resilient.
I don't know if you guys have any last words that you want to say.
I'll just give them a chance to say any last words, and then I think we'll do a QA.
Yeah, so we'll do it to QA.
I will talk about in a second the direction of what we're going to do, so you can kind of lead it however you want to.
But go ahead.
Do you want to say something?
braeden cooper sorbo
I don't really have anything else to add.
You kind of hit the nail on the head.
The fact that they're willing to still try to buy him out after everything really speaks volumes to the level of control that people want to have in America.
Like, you can be openly critical and they will still come and offer you money because maybe one day you will take the money.
I haven't been offered anything yet, unfortunately, but it'd be cool to be able to say no, I guess.
But I said it last night on the show that if your price is not your life, then you can be bought.
And so, unless you are willing to truly like the founding father you mentioned, set everything aside for the prosperity of the nation, because we don't have the same promises that every other generation had before us.
What we do have is the opportunity to provide those same promises to the generations coming after us.
And so, while we may not have job stability or the prospects of marriage or the prospects of that American dream that everyone else had, we have the opportunity to bring that back and revitalize it for every generation that is going to come after us.
And I say this specifically as a man, my desire is to have that responsibility, as weird as that may sound, because we're called to take responsibility upon our shoulders for not only ourselves, but those around us.
And so, a lot of people, and you can blackpill all you want.
I refuse to say that it's officially over until I go down.
That's pretty much what I'm going to say.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
As long as there's someone to J-Pill, don't blackpill, right?
You know what I mean?
I mean that as a joke, but I mean, as long as there's someone to wake up, don't give up, right?
That's kind of remember that in your head and give it.
I do want to cut you there and just say, we're going to, we're going to transition to QA.
But let's, this is not a joke.
If we can, please, this is a memorial for Charlie Kirk.
This is a memorial.
So living memorial, because you know what?
Because we're not going to just be like, oh, yeah, it's thoughts and prayers.
No, I'm like, we're going to meet.
Every one of you here, I have people that said that, you know, their husbands wouldn't let them come, that they're afraid.
You know, no one thought Charlie was going to get murdered that day.
We thank you.
Shout out to the round of applause for our police officers as well.
And please, we are here.
Transgenders are a bioweapon, and they threatened us and they continue to threaten us, but they're only really a risk to themselves because I think they kill themselves way more than they kill people.
So, but they do like to go into schools as well of AR15s, right?
They do.
It's the new thing.
Become trans kill kids.
And that's what they do.
It's a very sad thing.
And it's very, it's a real threat.
They're a very real threat.
And Trump's saying about banning transgenders from owning firearms, right?
So, and he's going to have to give up his guns.
unidentified
No, but I just got him back.
elijah schaffer
But literally.
No, but then now the left is fighting for gun rights because now awesome because the right's now fighting against free speech because of Israel criticism.
Now the left wants to open up gun rights to more people.
Let's give shout out to the round of applause to Democrat for gun rights.
Let's go.
Yeah, Patriots.
Patriots.
Kabula Harris is a patriot.
Now, so yeah, we'll do that, but let's be quiet for a second.
Just like a 10 second, if you're Catholic and you want to do a sign of the cross, if you're Orthodox or whatever, I don't know what you are.
Let's just bow our heads for a second, except for the police, please.
Keep looking.
No, but seriously, let's bow our heads real fast.
Let's close our eyes.
Let's take a moment of silence.
And I'm not a super religious guy, but I will say a prayer.
So let's take a moment of silence and we'll pray and then we'll go to Q&A.
God, we ask humbly of all of us here in this room something very simple.
Please guide us into truth.
Please protect us and our families.
We pray for those that are around Charlie Kirk, for his kids that will grow up without a dad, that you would please bring a male figure into their lives to help to raise them.
Perhaps a man who lost his wife in death and can marry a widow so that they can grow up strong.
We pray for Erica.
You know, every people have their opinions, but still she lost her husband.
We pray for Andrew Colvet, for the staff at Turning Point, and for his extended family, friends, and everyone's lives that he touched.
We pray for them all as they mourn and they grieve.
And God, you know, like everyone in this room, I am very much imperfect.
And I think a lot of us feel unable to talk to you because we are so lost in the busyness of life, of sin, of distractions, compromise, or maybe just out of fear.
But we ask that you would give us strength to put those things to rest and that this season would be a season of planting seeds in honor of Charlie Kirk, a memorial of Charlie Kirk, a man who literally gave his life for the values that we hold, whether like Ospille, we disagreed on certain issues.
It doesn't matter because what we did agree on was the value of what he was doing, which is to speak truth to life, to engage with people, and to be an American patriot, to do what's right, one nation under God.
So thank you for that.
We pray that you would be with us.
And thank you, Lord.
I would say if I can be, if you can save someone like me, which I'm like an actively being saved, it feels like.
I think anyone can.
I'm the chief of all sinners as well.
And I am the least of these.
And I know that the people in this room feel that way, but it's good.
May we never think of ourselves as greater.
So we humbly ask you, Lord God, to continue to guide us towards truth and not towards a political party or a faction or anything else, but a reality so that we can have a great country once again.
We ask this in the name of your son, Jesus, Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Thank you, God.
unidentified
Amen.
elijah schaffer
Alright, here's a mic for the, I don't know how you're gonna do it.
We'll do a Q ⁇ A.
I will ask this, though.
You can say what everyone, please, if we're going to do a Q ⁇ A, please don't come up and like lecture me or something.
Just ask.
People be like, you know, the Belford Declaration.
Okay, stop.
unidentified
Okay.
elijah schaffer
I know about that.
But anyway, just please try to ask a question or make a statement.
It's not going to make a statement.
But let's just try to keep them direct on what we're asking or whatever.
So if anybody wants to, I guess, yeah, he's going to bring the mic over to them.
unidentified
I think you can't hold the thing, but I can't hold it.
Yeah, it's a universe.
It's weird to have him hold it in my face.
Anyway, my name is Crystal Muruel.
And I came, I didn't know what you were going to talk about, but I came because, Brandon, I know your mom.
She's been representing Parents Demanding Justice Alliance up in Washington, D.C. with Kelly Walker.
And my story is one of the stories in the dossier.
I've had the school board weaponized against me here in the local Lachua County.
My son, you may have seen our local news.
He had a history teacher nominate him as most likely to become a dictator, and he received an award for it.
And anyway, we recorded it, and it's made national headlines that we're pushing back against the school district for treating conservative families like that.
So I came with all the desire to really like what I was hearing tonight from you, to support you, particularly just because I'm such a fan of your mom.
She's had me on her podcast, and I'm so grateful.
But I have to say, I am just so saddened by the anti-Semitism that I'm hearing coming from you.
All jokes aside, they're not funny, and it is anti-Semitic.
And saying, I don't really mean that about the Jewish people.
And then a mock.
You're laughing now.
I just don't appreciate that.
elijah schaffer
Am I laughing?
unidentified
No, him.
Oh, no, I'm not laughing.
I don't appreciate that.
And to bow your head and pray to God, who is the God of the Jews?
He's the God who chose them as his chosen people.
I find it very disheartening.
And I think, Brandon, I'll speak to you because I know your mom.
I think you need to be careful of this path you're going down.
I don't think Jay Pilling is the right way to talk about this.
elijah schaffer
Be respectful.
Be respectful.
She's tried to, she's carrying from her.
She's sincere, right?
unidentified
I am sincere.
And I'm a huge fan of Charlie Kirk.
We saw him on campus with my son.
We are equally being challenged by the local community for the same things that he was saying.
And I think this is really dishonor to his name because I don't think he would appreciate the way that you guys have been pushing your perspectives.
And you're playing with the same identity politics that the left plays with.
That I felt just as uncomfortable 10 years ago when I would sit in faculty meetings and hear them talk about their leftist perspectives.
And I'm feeling the same thing here.
This is not the direction that I think the party would need to go into or the right needs to go into.
And I personally do not support 95% of what I heard coming from you.
But I do think we need to fight for truth.
I agree with you on that.
I think we need to seek for truth.
And I think you're missing the mark.
And I just want to say that.
And I stayed to the end so I can make my comments because I was just really disappointed with what I heard.
And I thought it was very offensive and very anti-Semitic.
So thank you.
braeden cooper sorbo
Yeah, I was watching.
Thank you for coming.
I mean, we're glad that you stayed till the end that you heard what we had to say.
You're more than welcome to have a completely different opinion.
That's fine.
We don't intend to silence people just because we disagree with them.
We made it, I thought we made it very evident that we don't hate any group of people specifically for who that group of people are, right?
That would be completely unchristian.
unidentified
You did with the jokes and the comments and all the ones that come from Missoula.
Well, jokes, yeah, the show specifically is comedic.
braeden cooper sorbo
We made jokes.
We made jokes about everything.
So that's, that's, so just putting that to the side.
elijah schaffer
We're making jokes about him being Max Kid.
braeden cooper sorbo
We're making and he's one of our, he's one of our guys.
Like yeah, this is our friend.
elijah schaffer
This is, we're just, we're having it literally.
So I was going to say this.
I don't want to spend too much time, but number one, I respect you, obviously a very brave woman.
You're obviously a very brave.
You're obviously a very brave woman.
You're willing to stand up and oppose people that are standing here.
You also are a committed woman in terms of the truth.
You stood through the whole thing, which, you know, you're obviously not easily offended because you're able to sit through and listen to opposition.
I respectfully understand your position.
I know where you're coming from because I have a lot of family who has similar positions.
So two, just two comments.
Number one, thank you for the work that you've done outside of this question.
And I think there's no, I think it's fantastic that you're standing up and that I feel very, very saddened to you that there's a school board and people are targeting you and isolating you and alienating you.
I will say that, though, to respectfully say that I totally know why this looks that way to you.
And I also would say that there is definitely two different factions in the right wing, people more with your perspective and this.
But the things I'm saying tonight reflect a lot of what Charlie was actually saying the last two weeks that he was murdered.
If you watched his show, which I did, he was talking about all this stuff about Jewish power, Netanyahu.
He's writing a letter to Netanyahu.
unidentified
So I've also heard about Clavin or whoever it is that works at Turning coming out and talking about the text message.
elijah schaffer
Colvette.
unidentified
Colvette.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
unidentified
Talking about his text messages.
And I don't think Charlie would agree with half the way that you're framing the Jewish question.
I really don't.
He may have said that in a private message, frustrated because he lost a donor of $2 million or whatnot, but I don't think he would speak in these terms.
And I think you know that he wouldn't have.
Now, I don't think he miraculously completely changed his worldview in the last two weeks just because he had frustration over one donor that dropped him.
elijah schaffer
It was, so I'll just on this, we want to go on to other questions, but I will tell you this.
So, there are private conversations that I've had that would respectfully say, Yeah, Charlie didn't think exactly like me.
That's that's the beauty.
He totally doesn't think exactly like me.
He wouldn't use the exact same phrase because he has a different mission, a different calling, and he's on a different platform.
And I think that's very respectful.
However, he didn't personally invite me to platform at his conference.
And I was told that there was no disagreements, and I know things were changing.
So, the conversation I had behind the scenes and the things that I know, some of which I won't even say out of respect for his own legacy and respect for his own family, I do not feel like I'm doing any dishonoring to him or to them.
And I also would agree with you, though, and anyone that I don't think there's anyone else in this industry that would probably do exactly what I'm doing doing or done.
Now, unfortunately, because you know his mom, he's gonna be in trouble.
unidentified
Um, that's scary, but no, no, it sounds like somebody in trouble, but but I know but I came out of here for support, completely unaware of who you guys were, what you're what you're saying.
That's what motivated me to, and that's why I'm here as a conservative who's been put through the fire, who is skinny in the game, who is clearly willing to stand up in very uncomfortable environments and question and push back.
And that is what I'm doing because I was very, very disappointed with a lot of those topics and how they're presented.
And I just want the hegemony in this room to be broken for anyone else who's uncomfortable with the anti-Semitism.
So, yeah, well, actually, go to him, go to him.
I know Elijah very well.
And I can tell you with absolute certainty.
You don't think I've been, I worked with Elijah for a long time.
Proud Jew, proud Zionist.
And I can tell you with absolute certainty.
Now, I don't know these other gentlemen, but I would assume that you guys share similar values.
I can tell you with absolute certainty that Elijah is most definitely not an anti-Semite.
I've been working with him for a long time, and he's known that I'm a Zionist.
elijah schaffer
We work together.
I'm sorry.
unidentified
I'm not like, I'm not like super Jew, but I am most definitely a Zionist, and he's known my.
elijah schaffer
I forgot your hat.
unidentified
I forgot my hat.
Sorry.
But I can tell you with absolute certainty that he's not a Zion, anti-Semite.
I promise you that.
But also, you know, you disagree with me on this topic.
We disagree on certain things.
And also, like, I have a sense of humor, and I know he's got a unique sense of humor.
And what's wrong with that?
There's nothing wrong with that.
You know, you can crack wise all day long, but I can tell you for sure that now Zionism is essentially just you agree that Israel has the right to exist, right?
elijah schaffer
I literally said if they can conquer their own place, then they have the right to be there.
The land belongs to those who conquer it.
I think that's a very fair position.
unidentified
All four of you guys believe that Israel has the right to exist.
elijah schaffer
He's doing it now.
See?
He's hijacked it.
He's like, I'm looking at help.
But now, now, now I'm getting grilled.
unidentified
What Zionism is?
You don't have to be anyway.
elijah schaffer
You don't have to be phylosemitic.
It's like, you don't have to be anti-racist.
You know, those are the kind of things.
You don't have to be phylosemitic.
You can be critical.
And no, if I was anti-Semitic, I probably wouldn't have opened up my studio in a city with 17 synagogues with 52% Jewish.
I probably wouldn't have.
And worked with Jewish people who, by the way, some of which are still employed at my company.
unidentified
So I worked with Elijah for several years and he's known that I was Jewish the whole time.
elijah schaffer
And what I found out.
Oh boy.
No, no, I'm messing up.
I appreciate that.
Sorry.
My humor is wicked.
It's terrible.
And yes, Charlie would not probably like my humor.
I totally agree.
Any other questions?
Thank you.
Thank you for your question and your comment.
I was very appreciated.
And I'm sorry if people were laughing or mocking you.
That's not the intention.
unidentified
Hi.
So my name is Seth.
My question is, what do you guys think that we can do as right-wingers on a extremely liberal college campus such as this one?
Like pieces of advice, what are the things you guys think we can do to promote our message?
braeden cooper sorbo
Well, I don't support college.
So that's it really goes down to what we were saying right before we started doing questions where it has to be, you know, you have to just be willing to go out and speak.
I mean, besides the fact, what are you going to do?
Get your job replaced by some, you know, H-1B that's already happening.
So it's not like you have more of a risk if you go speak your values.
You should be unabashed in the truth and in the gospel, right?
As the whole idea of the parable of the vine dresser in Matthew 21 is that the old tenants have been kicked out and the new tenants have come in.
And so the new tenants are part of the new covenant and those who accept the Christ as the Messiah.
So if you're willing to accept Christ, then you should be willing to go out and preach it at the same time.
Ephesians 2 through CHC, everyone goes 8 through 9.
It's just like you're not saved by works, but 10 says you're created for good works.
And so yes, you're saved by grace through faith, but also go do things.
Go do it.
Like, don't be, you have to be proactive.
If you're not willing to be proactive and pursue righteousness, then you're in the wrong place.
And you guys have a mission field here.
My cousin went to a very liberal, very Christian school, and one professor specifically was incredibly liberal, atheist, hated Christ, all that stuff.
And she, she was friends with him.
So she went out to lunch one day and asked, but you're on a Christian campus.
Why are you a liberal?
He said, well, this is my mission field.
This is your mission field.
Go do things, right?
That may be a social media account, engaging, doing a podcast.
It may also just be talking with your inner circles and promoting goodness and truth or just living a righteous life and being good around others so as to set a proper example.
You don't have to be on Hollywood billboards and start praying on your Instagram like Chris Pratt does to have an impact on people.
You can do it on the most minuscule levels.
Like you can be attacked by the school board and say, that's enough.
And go and start fighting back like that, right?
unidentified
But you shouldn't have to wait for that to happen.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, you're going to answer that.
Also, I was going to say real fast, Mike Mendoza, there's somebody in the chat.
If you look at it, he even said Elijah loves Jews.
And if it's in a chat, then it's true.
We all know that.
Live chats are gospel.
Yeah, that's good.
That's good to answer.
Any other questions?
hugo lennon
I would say that coming from Australia and knowing our colleges, our universities, I'm surprised someone would call UF like liberal.
For instance, you guys have college Republicans.
You guys have turning point.
We legitimately don't have anything like that.
It's like literally entirely leftist.
So it just surprised me to hear that.
But yeah, like getting involved, I mean, as everyone here is doing, and you should encourage more people to because it does make a difference.
It does show that there's a human body out there with these views and willing to proselytize others to have them.
So yeah.
elijah schaffer
Awesome.
Thank you for the question.
unidentified
All right.
So good evening.
My name's Thomas.
Young Conservative America First.
Just had a question regarding your stance you expressed earlier about Trump in the 2024 campaign when he was, you mentioned you were very optimistic about how he was talking about ending the forever wars, really getting in there and changing the narrative.
And so something that I observed is like whatever powers it be may have been involved in the attempts on the tragic attempts on Trump's life, Butler.
Would you feel as if he was maybe scared or intimidated into backing down and compromising when they came after his life?
And what advice would you have for us to remain strong in our fortitude so that if they do come after us, that we can stay in our, that we can remain strong and steadfast in our beliefs?
elijah schaffer
Honestly, and I say this respectfully to our guests, the people there, if you really want an easy life, Don't criticize Israeli Likud power in the United States.
Like, don't do it.
Just shut up.
Okay.
Because, and some of you guys are going to need to start shutting up online a little bit, some people, so you can move up the ranks in some businesses and get in some institutional power, right?
You're going to have to choose.
So, what do you want in life?
That's the question.
What do you want in life?
And sometimes being right is not always, doesn't mean you have to voice it, right?
If a girl's fat, you don't necessarily just tell her, right?
You know, like, you don't do that.
It might be true, but it's not the right thing to do, right?
So, you have to kind of watch your words.
Obviously, I couldn't possibly know the answer to that in terms of I don't know what happened to Trump.
Like, I couldn't possibly know.
But I would say probably there's obviously, we know a lot of conversations are had.
unidentified
I mean, he didn't get $100 million from nobody.
elijah schaffer
Maryam Adelson, you know, is not just nice to people.
You know, he stated that Marco Rubio was so corrupt.
He was so corrupt back in 2016.
Remember that?
Because he took money from Maryam Adelson's husband at the time, I believe.
And you couldn't trust anyone who took money from the Adelsons.
Well, he took the money this time.
And Marco Rubio is like the Secretary of State or whatever.
I mean, that's crazy, right?
It's crazy on 2016, you couldn't trust him, but now you can.
So, so, yeah, I mean, I know he's taking a lot of blood money.
Whenever you take gambling money and money like that, it usually comes with mafia ties, right?
That's sort of that's not a joke.
You kind of have that like we give it to you, but we're going to ask a favor of you.
But I will say that with Trump, 100%.
Do you guys think it was fake?
Does anyone think it was fake, the assassination attempt on him?
I've heard people say it was faked.
I don't think it was faked.
I don't think so because people died behind him.
You know what I mean?
Like, it wasn't, if he also didn't have an exit wound, I'd be like, oh my gosh, what the hell?
You know what I mean?
Like, that's crazy.
But, but the guys had exit wounds.
They were shot and killed.
But yeah, when someone threatens your life, and actually, if you do what they say, you get two things.
This is how they win.
This is how they work.
Here's the two things Trump gets if he doesn't oppose these people.
He gets to be alive.
That's pretty good.
And number two, he gets to have less opposition in his presidency and gets, you know, the media won't be attacking him as much.
There won't be the protests and the riots and everything.
You're not getting a woman's march and a march for our lives and BLM.
You're not going to get that stuff because we're going to make your presidency easier.
You just got to give us what we want too, you know.
And I'll say this, by the way, I want to mirror Mike Cernovich on this answer.
Yeah, I think he probably compromised a lot because of that.
But also, I do like, I'm volunteering Netanyahu to become Israel's PR manager.
I'd like to help them.
Number one, probably stop killing kids.
Okay.
I'm not sure about that one, but I've heard it's unpopular in the United States.
Okay.
Unless they're in the womb.
That's very popular, especially in black communities.
But it's unfortunate.
I said that was an abortion joke.
See, that was mean.
But also, people do kill their children here.
And minorities have higher rates of abortion.
It's a very sad thing.
I really, it makes me sad.
It makes me very sad.
But two, stop killing innocent people and claiming you're trying to free hostages.
But two, realize that maybe the amount of money you spend, people don't like your message because they don't like what you guys do.
And they don't like, it's not because they're anti-Semitic and they hate the fact that you were born Jewish.
They don't like what you're doing.
And so they would like, you know, I'm not a Catholic medic or whatever you want to call it because I didn't like Joe Biden.
He's Catholic, you know.
I just didn't like him.
And that's okay.
I'm allowed to not like people.
I think Trump is phylo-Semitic, which I think is problematic when you think of something as better.
I think that there's a racist group of people in our country who think Jews are God's chosen people and superior and it undermines the value of the church of Christ because the promise is to those who believe on Jesus Christ and to those who reject Christ, God says they are of the spirit of the Antichrist and they are not of us and that they are the synagogue of Satan.
And I think that that doesn't mean that everyone is, but I think that you have to remember that we are a Christian nation and I don't know if Trump is really a Christian.
So all I was going to say is I would pray for Trump for salvation.
I don't know how you guys do it.
I'm not very religious, you know, super religious.
I was just trying to pray to honor Charlie, you know, and I'm trying to kind of find God and go out there.
But I'll leave it at that.
Please pray for Trump because if he is compromising, if he is compromised, then that means that he can be saved and we can turn things around.
Is that likely?
Probably not.
But I do think we still have a chance.
So I don't know if that answers your question, but yeah.
I don't know if anyone wants to answer that.
unidentified
Awesome.
Thank you.
All right.
elijah schaffer
Thank you.
unidentified
Hello.
My name's Oksana.
A little bit off the topic of what we've been discussing, but I'm really concerned, obviously, about the children.
And what would your suggestion be?
You're a father now, so I'm sure how you're going to educate your children has been on your mind.
What do you suggest concerning public schools versus homeschooling?
Is public schools even an option or even private schools since they can too indoctrinate our kids?
So basically, what are your suggestions with that?
Is it possible to send them to public school in any scenario?
Or do you think 100% only homeschool?
So what are your thoughts?
braeden cooper sorbo
Only homeschooling.
Now you can go.
unidentified
Yeah, no, no.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, kind of, he'll probably have a different answer, but yeah, pretty simple.
I only do believe in homeschooling.
I think if you have a lot of money, adding additional maybe private education courses, like putting kids in science, you know, camps or, you know, having them have tutors to explain the classics or things where having experts sort of expose them to a classical education and not just homeschooling, not these Goy slop like educational packages, right?
No, I'm serious where they just mock you and they say that you're, you know, they treat your kids like they're students.
You can get public school education at home and that's still bad.
Maybe your kid's not going to get shot by transgender, but which is a serious epidemic in this world right now, these mass shootings, these crazy white LGBTQ people.
It's really insane.
They might not, yeah, their teacher might be normal and God-fearing, but the education is still going to tell them, you know, that they're an insignificant speck of dust amongst millions of years of cosmos.
And the world always was and always will be.
And you're just floating in a hollow ball.
And I don't think that's a good world for you to instill in children.
So again, let's talk also about bringing kids home and giving them a solid education by actually returning to what our ancestors did, which is classical literature.
And I'm going to be honest here.
No offense.
I have a degree.
I used to be a genetic engineer.
I've worked with many brilliant women.
So this is not a sleep of hand to females, but like most girls don't need to be doing algebra, right?
I mean, like, that's most of them.
You know, there are things that are good for girls to learn and stuff.
We're not teaching girls like girls.
So that's my second part: we should teach girls like they're girls and teach them things that are helpful for being a woman and a woman of God and a good family wife.
And also, also, this is why people say, but also if their husband dies or something that they're equipped and ready and able to go into the professional world and provide for their family in an emergency or sickness.
So we don't want women who are just like these dumb.
We don't want dumb women.
We want brilliant, brilliant women, but we also don't want our women to be men.
And unfortunately, if you're in public school too long, the men become women.
So that's awesome.
I don't know if you want to mention that.
hugo lennon
No, no, you confident that.
unidentified
All right.
Yeah.
Thank you.
All right.
Well, all right.
My name is Leonedina.
Is it fine if I record this?
I've never really spoken to someone like this.
elijah schaffer
We're live actually.
unidentified
Well, I wanted to ask something a little bit off topic as well.
I wanted to talk about immigration, being a second, let's say, second generation person from family from Latino America.
And it frustrates me always hearing people speak about illegal immigration.
It really pisses me off.
not to sound a little bit vulgar, but it's like, it really frustrates me because like, I also want to hear your intake on your take on it, because in my opinion, there's a right way to do things.
And if you want to come to this country to get a new opportunity to fight, to get a job, to have a family, to sustain yourselves, you need to come here legally.
Coming here illegally destroys that purpose.
My parents came here in 2003, 2004, 2018, 2019.
I had the privilege and the right to see them become U.S. citizens.
And then there's people coming here illegally, having that opportunity hand given to them.
To me, that is just offensive.
And sorry for what I'm going to say.
It's also fucked up.
What is your take on it?
michael hennessey
It is messed up.
You know, I know, especially the immigration, the way to come into the country now is very tough.
You know, we have to be vetted.
And then you have all these others who are just piling over the border illegally, collecting great benefits, getting these luxury hotels in New York and all these other locations.
And it frustrates us, even those who've been here for generations, because we're seeing them be put first.
Now, that ends up being a whole discussion, I believe, as far as replacement theory.
And I could kind of go down that road, but I won't.
But it is frustrating.
It takes away from, first off, we don't know who's coming here.
We don't know when they come here, the threats that we have.
We're seeing all these murders.
You have rape.
I mean, that's a big thing, especially like, you know, not even just here, like the UK and all these other locations.
So we're not, as Trump said, you know, that one time, we're not getting the best of the best.
Unfortunately, we're not when they come over the border legally.
So, and the stories too, when people come here illegally, it's terrible when you actually like see what they have to, what they go through.
You know, a woman could be raped, a child can be kidnapped, you know, and the list goes on.
Illegal immigration is something I believe that we have to get a hold on.
I know right now we have the border secure as much as possible, but we do need to start getting those out who didn't come here the right path.
One thing, too, is I do believe that, you know, I'm okay with people coming from other countries.
So for instance, my family, I'm like fourth generation from Ireland.
My family came here and I'm okay.
But the problem is right now we have a flood of people piling in.
And what it does is it takes away from the culture of America.
It's just like I think Mexico should stay majority Mexican at the time.
I know this may frustrate people.
I think that, you know, Brazil should stay majority.
I think America should stay majority American people out there.
They're American.
Because what it does is once you start to bring too many in who aren't vetted, you know, we start to lose the same values.
We start to lose the, you know, what unites us.
And that's kind of what they want as well.
That's why you see the borders go down.
They can convince people to give you free stuff.
You vote for us.
And at the same time, it's harder for us to be unified.
And this way we can actually stand together against the government suppression or whatever it may be.
So, I mean, that's really mine.
Immigration.
I don't know.
braeden cooper sorbo
I'll go real quick.
I'm Norwegian, third generation American, and I got to go back to Norway recently.
And I was walking through Oslo and there was a pocket in that country of basically little Somalia.
I went to the gym with my brother.
We worked out.
It was a great time.
We left and we did a different turn.
We turned left out of the doors instead of the right.
And we walked in Norway and we were the only Norwegians in this city.
Everyone looked at us as if we were strangers.
And it was this weird rundown part of the city where you didn't feel safe walking through.
And so without proper, without proper integration into society, people form cliques.
Just like when you go to high school or college, people have individual groups.
You have the jocks, the nerds, the whatever, where people refuse to cooperate and collaborate with each other.
And so when you don't have a process in place for people to integrate, then you're going to end up imploding.
You're going to destroy yourself and it's inevitable.
unidentified
Yeah, I'll let's just say a quick brief thing and he'll go in.
elijah schaffer
Um, first of all, man, this is not even directed at you at all in specifically, but I think we've had enough immigration overall, illegal and illegal immigration.
I think we are uh the vacancy sign flip on the no, okay, like I mean, I'm being honest.
Like, and when your parents came, it was kind of a different era of people who there was a lot of vetting, a lot of trying to understand who was high quality.
You see this in Canada, you see this in Australia.
There was just some immigration, and they were trying to get the best of the best.
And we are literally getting the worst people from these countries now, okay?
Like, you got to remember, you got to remember this.
We are getting very, very bad quality immigrants today.
And the question persists, though, and I'll just leave it at this so I'm not disrespectful to you.
And it's no disrespect to you because I respect, I don't, I don't judge anyone based upon the way they were born or uh immutable characteristics.
I think that's that is unchristian, it is that is unhuman, that's un-American, right?
But the question is, is what is what is America?
And do white people have the right to a homeland, right?
Do we now?
If America is not a white country, even though it was founded by whites, and we want to be a multi-ethnic, multicultural society, then I guess that is what we've decided we want to be.
So then, if you go to the other countries where white people are, remember, we're only 7% of the world, white people, so only 7%, 7%, 8%.
Some people say 6%, we are the minority.
When you go to our other countries, well, they're also not very white anymore either.
Look at Germany, Paris is gone.
London is gone.
And so, I think that there's a very healthy discussion that needs to take place: apart from racism, apart from hatred, apart from this, like I, and I, I don't, I don't have to bring up other minorities, but like, this is affecting black people too.
Like, black people used to be the minority, and now they're just like ever-increasingly a smaller percentage of the population through both abortion and other races coming.
And we never even figured out those race relations, we never fixed those communities, and now we're bringing in new groups of people and new communities.
Like, it's a serious question.
Like, what is this going to do to a country?
Well, it didn't work well in Rome, and I think the illegal immigration was a good start, but I also think it's bad when people like your parents who came as immigrants are saying these new immigrants are.
I'm eating Indians in Canada from like 2004 who were like, These are not the people you want in your country, like you know what I mean.
And well, yeah, it sounds like yeah, Dinesh D'Souza, Amy, he's like, dude, these new Indians, they're not good.
Okay, so so we love our racist Indians, right?
Now, okay, don't clap.
Um, I just like to, I that was a joke, Dinesh.
I like Dinesh, it was a song show, uh, but yeah, I'll leave it at that because you're you guys are going through demographic replacement in Australia.
There is a uh a demographic replacement happening very, very strongly, and I know it's something close to your heart.
It's frustrating to you, and a lot of Australians, I don't know if you want to touch on that and what you think about the illegal immigration and what's what's going on.
You just have more legal migration, yeah.
hugo lennon
Well, I know we don't have much time left, but yeah, I think like the debate has basically been won on illegal immigration.
I think like most parties now come to the table and say it shouldn't, it shouldn't be happening, it needs to be cold.
But I think equally, like legal immigration is a problem, a problem that has been ignored.
People will get placated because they see the issue of illegal immigration as being tackled, but legal immigration poses just as much of a threat demographically or even to wages, culturally, various of issues.
So, yes, legal immigration, obviously, bad, but legal immigration questions need to be having had, and the mandate, the will of the people needs to be listened to, and the numbers need to seriously be reduced.
But yeah, I'm aware of the time that we've got.
So, yeah, yeah.
elijah schaffer
I just want to read a couple super chats real fast.
Uh, thank you so much for your question, man.
I really appreciate that.
Uh, give him a round of applause.
There's a couple super chats here.
Uh, Cocto said, I love you.
There's a couple comments.
I just want to read this.
The Virgo on Fire said, so happy and your team are doing this great panel tonight, guys.
So important to bring the discussion to the young people.
Hyle Hennessy, uh, his name's Hennessy, okay?
Also, the badge bunny said, Amen.
Christ is king, praying for your salvation, Elijah.
You know, I was baptized when I was younger.
I just, is anyone else feeling like they're not as close to God as they should be?
And it's like not the time to mess around with that kind of stuff because that's how I'm feeling, right?
I'm feeling like, wow, this is, I have not been close to God.
I'm not particularly super close to God, but I am like blown away because I have a hard heart and I'm in a war.
braeden cooper sorbo
And if you don't feel that, that's a sign that you need to start feeling it.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, but anyway, I just feel like God is moving on people, except for the Democrats.
I'm kidding.
But go ahead.
Any other questions?
unidentified
Yeah, we gotta wrap up.
braeden cooper sorbo
We got two minutes.
unidentified
We gotta wrap up.
elijah schaffer
Oh, two minutes?
Okay, we're done.
All right.
All right.
Yeah, you want to close out?
Anyone, President?
Anyone want to close out?
Yeah, go ahead.
unidentified
Not even 30 seconds.
michael hennessey
Let's go, Michael.
unidentified
Thank you.
All right, guys.
Obviously, I wish we could go a little longer, but the doors closed at 11.
Unless you want to sleep at the rights, you know, we're going to have to file out.
But I appreciate y'all coming.
I really hope you enjoyed what we had for you guys today.
The CR meets every other two weeks on Tuesdays.
So are we doing a Gator challenge?
follow the instagram all of that good stuff but i won't keep you guys much longer Anyways, I hope you all enjoyed it.
Go, Gators.
Thank you, Elijah, Hugo, Brayden.
elijah schaffer
You're telling me that a failed art student was doing the Gator Trumpet just with one arm?
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
That's crazy.
unidentified
Thank you guys.
elijah schaffer
Good night.
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