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June 30, 2025 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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Trump CLASHES w/ Candace Owens Over Brigitte Macron Controversy | The Rift | Guest: Timothy Gordon

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elijah schaffer
Credible day it is here as it turns out that Donald Trump is now calling Candace Owens over her of all things talking about Bridget Macron.
Meanwhile, in the United Kingdom, they just made it that it's an automatic jail sentence for white Brits if they make a meme that's not good, but you'll get out without even paying money, cashless bail actually, if you rape someone and you're an immigrant.
Life is looking good.
Plus, it also turns out that things are looking pretty serious for Europe right now in terms of the fact that the French are now blackmailing the United States saying that they will not try to stop the deaths of young Christian men in Ukraine if Candace Owens does not delete her shows about Macron's wife being a transgender.
That's how much they care about you.
That's how much they care about white Christian men.
That's how much they care about Europeans.
They will let you die so that they can protect their wife from being called a T-word.
And I thought this is 2025.
I thought it was good to be transgender.
I'm not talking out against it.
I'm like, man, this is thought it was people pay a lot of money to get like that.
You know, so if someone mistakes you for one, that should be a blessing, not a curse.
Maybe there's something else to this.
We're talking about this.
Plus, RFK Jr. went on Tucker Carlson and linked autism to something that you're not going to be surprised about, but said that it links to a 1,135% increase.
He also said that Dr. Fauci had to get a political pardon from Biden because he actually engineered a certain little invasive species.
And I'm not talking about Pakistanis.
You know what I'm saying?
We're talking about this and so much more in another episode here of The Rift live Monday through Friday at 7 p.m.
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And then Wednesday, Thursday are going to be pre-recorded.
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Let's start the show.
unidentified
What a great day it is today.
elijah schaffer
My name is Elijah Schaefer.
Welcome back to The Rift.
It's our live show.
We just got monetized this last week on YouTube.
So, celebratory time for that.
I know that we had a pre-recorded episode, a couple over the weekend while we were gone.
So we will be going over the super chats from those episodes, the super chats from this episode, but reminding you that you can leave super chats both on Rumble, now on YouTube, and on locals.
Shout out to everyone on locals.
We'll have a bonus segment today for you guys.
Remember that we are doing that.
Anyway, joining me today is my guest and the panel.
They're people that you know, but not everybody does.
To my guests today on this show, we introduce ourselves, tell a little bit about who we are.
We give show and tell, you know, pull out your G.I. Joe.
My guest today, Timothy Gordon, tell us who you are, why you're here, and you're somewhat of a legend yourself, but remember to follow him and introduce yourself.
timothy gordon
Well, thanks for having me on.
Elijah, I'm Timothy J. Gordon, author of five books.
Find me at Timothy J. Gordon on YouTube.
I'm a Catholic patriarchalist, and we recorded a couple episodes.
That was a lot of fun.
And I'm happy to be here in South Florida doing the Booker Atone thing.
elijah schaffer
The mouth of the rat, they call it.
And why do they call it Mouth of the Rat, Mike?
unidentified
Why did they say Jews?
elijah schaffer
Of course, of course.
Okay, and of course, joining me on my left is resident co-host Michael Hennessy of Snowflake underscore news.
Introduce yourself.
Tell us who you are, why you're here.
michael hennessey
Hey, happy to be back.
Michael Hennessy of Snowflake underscore news. on Instagram as well as X and a contributor here for the Rift.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, incredible.
On top of that, behind the table, the man, the myth, the legend himself, Michael Mendoza of the MendozaReport.com, who we all work for here.
How are you doing, man?
michael mendoza
Yeah, what's up?
I'm here.
I'm going to turn my pause on real quick.
Also, let's not forget Sarah.
I had to turn off her audio because she wasn't back yet, but it's back on now.
And Sarah is actually.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, no, we're not forgetting.
We cannot forget.
unidentified
And by the way, Kier joining remote.
elijah schaffer
Would she like to clarify?
Not from Canada.
Sarah C. Stock, welcome back to the show.
sarah stock
Yeah, happy to be here.
Not from Canada.
I'm in California.
Sorry, Mike.
I had to run out and get a little bit of Alfredo pasta so I'm not starving for the whole show.
But yeah, I'm here now.
So that's good.
And yeah, I'm a contributor here at Rift.
I write some articles for the website, like coming on the shows, and I'm very active on social media, which my handle is just Sarah Seastock on both Twitter and on Instagram.
Also have a YouTube channel.
So subscribe to that.
It's just my name, Sarah Stock.
elijah schaffer
All right, Sarah, and make sure that you share on X that you're live right now on the show.
If you haven't already, Timothy 2 and Hennessy, make sure you're out there.
Let's put it up.
Make sure that you share some tweets, share a link or whatever, because we got some stuff to talk about.
So, you know, typically it's kind of weird when your friends and people that you know become a part of the news, right?
And we were originally going to do this show about RFK Jr.
He sat down with Tucker and I'm kind of getting pissed off.
And I kind of want to bring this up.
It's like, why is the news coming from podcasts now?
Why is everything we're finding out because some politician told some podcaster, why are no politicians just speaking to the people?
Or is that how they speak to us now?
We don't get to get press briefings.
We don't get to find out the truth.
We end up just finding out on a Tucker Carlson episode that maybe the things they're giving our children are killing us.
And perhaps that's what the CDC is saying.
I'm not making those medical claims.
That's just what RFK Jr. said.
And then on top of that, it's like, oh, and by the way, we can't solve the Ukraine war, as we'll find out, unless you delete your podcast episode, Candace.
It's getting so weird, man.
I don't know what you feel about the state of the world, Timothy, but like, it just feels like nothing makes sense anymore.
timothy gordon
No, it doesn't.
Well, it makes a lot of sense, though.
I'm going to attack it from the positive to accentuate the positive.
You asked why podcasts?
Because podcasts are the shit because they're ungate kept in many cases, right?
Am I right, Mike?
And you can get the unvarnished truth.
So it actually makes quite a bit of sense if I'm the token positive guy.
I've never been the token positive guy before, but I think it makes a lot of sense that we're hearing about this stuff.
Candace is having a big influence.
Obviously, Tucker is having more influence than he had at Fox News.
That's the general pattern of things.
People become more influential if they can carry their influence over to an ungate kept position with regard to the general public.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and I kind of want to jump into this, though, with you, Mike.
I want to actually just watch a clip here as we talk about this because this is something we got to look at.
So it turns out that Candace obviously is no stranger to controversy.
She talks a lot about, you know, in the past, a lot about Bridget Macron.
Remember when she said this just a little while ago?
This about a couple of weeks ago about, listen.
candace owens
Yesterday, I received a letter, and I would say that this letter plausibly changed the trajectory of this year, certainly for me.
What was strange about this is that when my lawyer was able to determine what it was and who it was from, this was atypical because it was not a lawsuit and it was not a subpoena, but it was a strongly worded letter, essentially a legal threat.
And people don't typically use process servers for legal threats.
Even stranger was who it was coming from.
It's coming from a law firm representing president, current sitting president Emmanuel Macron and his wife, Brigitte Macron.
Okay, like I said, this is insane.
I don't think this has ever happened in the history of the world.
Plausibly, you don't hear about a foreign leader currently sitting in power, sending around legal letters to people that are sitting in other countries, no matter what that person is saying.
But it's going to get so much more crazier than that.
Okay.
Because there are a lot of odd things about this letter.
First and foremost, they strenuously requested that I not publicize it.
They did not want me to publicize this letter all over it.
This is not meant to be publicly disseminated.
Okay.
You have no.
unidentified
All right.
elijah schaffer
We can stop that.
The point was that we all thought it was really weird.
A president of another democratic country, right, who also lost two world wars, but a president of another country came and they were saying, hey, you know, everyone called Candace crazy.
She's saying that, you know, Brigitte Macron is a transgender.
It's really a man.
We've all seen Michael Obama's Willie, you know, flip-flopping around, which was definitely, you know, the back structure.
I always said this.
I'm not, I'm not hateful.
I'm not judgmental, YouTube, towards transgenders.
I actually just want Michelle's back.
You know what I mean?
That back is a nice looking back.
And everyone did think that Candace was kooky.
And then the government stepped in and was requesting that she take this down.
They actually changed laws in France that you can't publish about this anymore.
And it started opening up the question of number one, what influence does foreign leaders and governments and allies have over our freedom of speech in our country, right?
This is, you know, from Israel to the United Kingdom to Australia, right?
We even have a new tab on X, by the way, it says your content's restricted in Australia.
It's a new brand new tab just for the country.
So I already posted something that's restricted in Australia.
I thought this was suspicious just to begin with, but it was weird, right?
They intervened.
michael hennessey
Yeah, no, it is weird they intervene, but it's just kind of like what Timothy was touching on: is that the American people, we've lost complete hope into the new, you know, mainstream media.
So what people are doing now is we're going to podcasters.
And when you have people like Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, who are actually going out there and putting the truth, they know that the eyes are on them.
So what they're trying to do is they're trying to interject to try to help change the narrative.
And the whole thing with the Macron, you know, him and husband or wife, whatever you want to call it.
I mean, the whole story is weird from beginning to end.
This was someone who supposedly, and I got to dive more into it, but was like a school teacher.
There was a huge age gap there.
So that whole thing was disturbing.
And then even a lot of the information Candace put out kind of points to the fact that, you know, it's very possible that this is a man.
And I wouldn't be surprised to be honest with you.
We've all seen the baden suit picture of, you know, Macron's wife or whatever.
So I do believe that there is something more sinister going on with that whole situation.
And what they want to do is they just want to go ahead.
They want to silence as many people as they can.
And the fact that they're using war as a tool to silence people is the most ridiculous thing.
Like, okay, you know, say it's not a man and then we'll help you with the Ukraine war.
Even for Trump to play along with that at all is just ridiculous.
elijah schaffer
Sarah, do you think this is legit, by the way?
Before we even talk about this weird development, I mean, do you think, do you think Brigitte Macron could actually be a man?
And like, do you think this adds any resemblance?
Because you're, you watch Candace, right?
sarah stock
Sometimes.
I honestly, I haven't kept up with all of her stuff recently, but yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, okay, but I'm saying, I don't know.
My, my, my wife watches Candace.
Every girl I know watch my sister watches Candace.
Even people that, you know, are not even anti-Semitic watch Candace, believe it or not.
But it is, it always was an interesting thing.
That's like, we were talking about this with Timothy here.
It's like the tabloid stuff has always been a little bit weird to me.
Like, why, why with your credibility and your ability to talk about Gaza, the war, what's going on?
Like, why is it that you talk about the tabloid stuff?
Just to appeal to a female audience, but like, still, like, you know, you and I know, I mean, what her grand, technically her in-law, but like grandfather, whatever it's called, is like, uh, or father-in-law, sorry, like owns GB News.
They're very fact-based, uh, statistically analytical.
They are always working with numbers.
George, her husband, is a really, really, really sharp guy.
I really like him a lot.
He, you know, is intellectual, well-read, quite eloquent in his presentation, in his form, in this prose.
And then it's like, well, why are we talking about this?
I thought it was weird, but I did, but I did think it made sense once they challenged it that maybe there's some truth to it.
sarah stock
I was going to say, I don't think it's weird because I mean, I used to like I used to watch Candace like years ago too.
She's always covered pop culture stuff and celebrity gossip from a right-wing angle.
So that's kind of always been her thing if you've been following her.
And that's why so many people like her, especially a lot of women, is because it's very entertainment.
It's not just politics, but it's, you know, it's kind of politics, culture, all these different things.
And I think, especially recently, it's been really funny, like watching this giant female audience following her and then just getting completely red-pilled on stuff that it used to be, you know, you could only find in the corners of 4chan with like the neck beard men reading this stuff.
And now it's just like your average like college girl or, you know, stay-at-home mom is just like knows about the USS Liberty.
It's just really funny to me.
But I think whether or not that's an intentional strategy or not, but it totally works to talk about these regular gossip that appeals to a female audience and celebrities and all this stuff.
And then just like sprinkling in a huge red pill truth nuke.
And it totally works, right?
That's what gets people.
That's really how you red pill people.
timothy gordon
Plus, the Balfour Declaration.
A little bit.
Like, you know about the creation of the Justin Bieber while we're at it.
Creation of Israel.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
It's actually really crazy.
It's like, you know what I mean?
Like, yeah, it's like Haley Bieber is obviously resentful of his relationship.
And it's crazy because people don't even know if it was 6 million or not.
You know what I mean?
It's like, you just got to go there.
But that is kind of what this show is.
We have some unfans in the audience today.
I really do like they said this is like the right-wing Tim Poole, but Tim Pool's right wing.
So this is the right, right-wing?
I don't know what that means.
And also, they said I'm a midwit.
I'm actually not a midwit.
I'm actually self-diagnosed retarded, which is actually worse.
So that's a truthful statement there.
But keeping it professional, we're not going to watch this whole thing, but I do want to watch the beginning.
Trump now is trying to dictate foreign policy by, I don't know, we call this bribing.
This is a story, though, guys, because this involves free speech.
This involves journalistic integrity.
This involves presidential behavior that is questionable.
It also elucidates and enlightens us to how stupid leaders are.
As they say, they're so unimpressive that they're trying to determine foreign policy that's leading to the deaths of many young men over like personal slights against their wife.
Like this is getting ridiculous.
And you see these Democratic leaders are actually fattened on their own egos and pride that they'll like continue a war simply because they're mad and they won't work with the U.S. that a black woman, by the way, who even in our own country, you know, many people listen to them, maybe not by choice, but you know, if you're in a movie theater, you can hear a lot going on.
It's like, I'm joking, but you know, it's just, Candace always is great.
She's a fantastic, she's a friend.
I love her a lot.
But, you know, like, she's just a podcaster, or is she?
That's kind of what she brings up here.
Listen to this.
This is really impressive.
And I'm going to give her some praise here because, you know, it's quite shocking.
candace owens
And like I said, I've been holding on to this for a very long time because something happened all the way back in February.
And I was sworn to secrecy temporarily.
And I feel that today is the correct day to inform audiences because it may have some severe global implications.
So here is what happened.
All right.
The date was Monday, February 24th.
And in the early evening, I had just kind of wrapped the show.
It was just after 5:30 p.m., to be precise.
I received a very strange message from a friend of mine.
I'm not going to identify that friend, but the message specifically read, Hey, I have something to tell you from the White House.
They asked me to call you.
I'm just the messenger here.
Again, strange.
I'm just the messenger here, like kind of removing themselves from whatever was going to be said.
So I assume it's got to be something weird.
And I say, Yeah, whatever.
Give me a call.
And so he does call me pretty immediately, by the way.
And he says, Somebody very high up at the White House has asked me to ask you if, as a favor, you could stop speaking about Brigitte Macrone.
Like, what?
Excuse me?
I'm not kidding when I say that in the myriad of possibilities that were floating through my brain about what this phone call was going to be about, that was not one of them.
So I'm just kind of having to redirect and I'm going, what were you talking about?
To be clear, we had, ironically, as a podcast, we had just ended our Brigitte Macron series four days earlier on February 20th.
That's when we released the last episode, which was the epilogue.
So I'm going, that doesn't make sense.
Why am I getting this phone call now?
And obviously, I ask for a little more information.
I say, who?
Who specifically called you?
And that friend of mine says, it's somebody that has the president's ear.
This is somebody important.
So I'm thinking, okay, this is an advisor, Susie Wiles.
I don't know.
And I tell my friend, go back to that person and just say, I said, no, it's free speech.
This is obviously an important story to me.
The implications here are pretty severe about what I've uncovered.
So no deal.
Hang up.
I go into my husband's office and I tell him what just happened.
And honestly, I'm kind of laughing at the absurdity of it because I hadn't thought beyond what may have happened.
And then I do what I always do just in case.
I call Noah, I call the lawyer and I'm like, hey, I know Macron's sending us legal letters.
Just want you to add this onto the pile that somebody at the White House is asking me to just stop speaking about Brigitte Macron.
unidentified
Cool.
candace owens
We kind of have a laugh about it, run it different ways.
Are we going to expect something else to be delivered to my door?
Another threat, implicit threat from the Macrones, somebody calling in a favor, who knows, whatever.
Anyways, we do dinner and I am kind of feeling bad about my pregnant attitude on the phone call, you know, because I was what, eight weeks away from birth and I was a bit shorter on the phone than I would have been if there wasn't like a growing infant foot that's lodged under my lung.
And this person has been very good to me in the past.
And so I resolved that before I go to bed, I'll phone him back and have a much more calm conversation.
Not that I was rude, but just like, hey, what's this actually about?
And so I did.
I did.
And not only that, before I called this individual back, when I checked online, I realized that Emmanuel Macron is in Washington, D.C., February 24th.
He is in Washington, D.C.
And he had departed the White House just hours before I received the call.
So anyways, I am in awe.
A lot of thoughts are running through my mind.
What could this possibly be about?
And when I call that person back, they tell me something that is even stranger.
They say, look, I'm, again, and the messenger here.
What I was told from somebody that's pretty high up at the White House is that Emmanuel Macron is holding up negotiations to end the Russian and Ukrainian war.
Unless you stop. speaking about his wife.
elijah schaffer
That's crazy.
unidentified
That's a wild.
candace owens
What?
unidentified
Whoa.
candace owens
What are you saying?
What are we even speaking about?
unidentified
What do you mean negotiations between Russia and Ukraine?
candace owens
I'm just like, you know, looking into a story at my house.
I've got a very small team here.
And you're telling me that somehow negotiations are being held up and it needs to be communicated to me.
They've got to stop talking about Brazil.
timothy gordon
I wonder if they figured on her admitting this publicly.
It's because it's such an odd look to be at the center of what they tried to start as World War III, the first attempt at World War III a couple years back.
And they're admitting to her.
I wonder if they figured she would go turn public with it.
You know, hey, that's it.
sarah stock
That's so crazy.
Can you imagine having that moral dilemma?
It's like, yeah, so thousands of Ukrainians and Russians are going to die unless you stop your little podcast about the transgender Macron.
elijah schaffer
But it's not true, though.
sarah stock
Like, what do you even do?
Like, yeah.
elijah schaffer
Well, I mean, it's not true.
Meaning, like, what this shows me is this.
So we have to have a real discussion on democracy here because, you know, we're doing our book, by the way.
Shout out to JC.
Is that his name is JC, right?
His initials?
michael mendoza
Yeah, which, by the way, he still hasn't responded yet.
I don't know if it's his initials, but it's the first two letters of his email.
elijah schaffer
So JC.
michael mendoza
You know who you are.
You won the Kindle.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, yeah.
You won the Kindle from our book club on Sunday.
And I was really shocked that the video did like 80,000 views because I thought the book club would do like 5,000 views.
But apparently you guys all like the book.
But Buchanan was talking about in our last book club, you know, where the right went wrong that, you know, we've accepted the fact that our governments in the United States don't represent the people.
Like through NAFTA, the corporations and the oligarchs essentially lobby our politicians.
They, you know, move, you know, manufacturing and skilled labor out of the country for cheaper products, cheaper prices.
And then in return, instead of, you know, trying to help us so that we know, hey, now we have cheaper products, they hyperinflate the money.
They allow corporations to get into the housing market and fix the market.
So not only does do we lose our jobs, but we don't get to benefit from the cheap products because inflation devalues our currency.
And then we've realized that even though three-fourths of Americans want to stop immigration, we know even the last four years before Trump, they just opened the borders regardless.
So he goes, you know, we've gotten to a position to where Republicans and Democrats know our government doesn't represent us.
And so a democracy today appears to be, like when we look at this, you go, you're telling me you could negotiate to end a war, but you need a podcaster to delete a video.
That doesn't sound like you're leading on behalf of your people, the Ukrainian people.
It doesn't sound like you're on behalf of the free world or even the West as an idea.
It sounds like you are governing based upon your clique, your status, your bourgeois reputation.
And it's like, democracy, is it really a representation of the people?
Or is it a way to control the people and make it appear like there is not a tyrannical government in charge because the elections are fixed?
And when you see that they're flippantly taking, by the way, close to a million guys have died or been maimed in this war from last time I heard it was like 960,000 white Christian Orthodox men at behest of a non-Christian leader, by the way.
What religion is he?
Mormon.
Those Mormons.
Zelen's classic Mormon name.
No, but I kind of want to touch on that.
You know, it's like, these things, you think it might have been intentional.
I don't know if I agree with that.
I think that this is the curtain being moved on the Wizard of Oz.
Like, I think sometimes they just let it slip and they don't realize Candice isn't in their clique.
She's not in their club.
So she's not, she doesn't follow those rules like Tim Pooh said, where it's like, oh, it's house rules.
unidentified
What is it?
elijah schaffer
Chatham rules?
Is that what it's called?
timothy gordon
Yeah, the Mouse Rules.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, So I don't know what you think about that.
timothy gordon
Yeah, George Carlin once said it.
He's like, look, they have a club and you and I ain't in it.
And he's probably a lot closer to being in it than you or I.
But the point is, yeah, that's probably what they figured on.
I'd also make the, I'd be the douche to just point out that with all of the christening of democracy and the presupposing of democracy as the right form of government that the boomers have accustomed our ears to.
You know, it's even in the Star Wars films.
We're not a democracy.
We were never intended to be a democracy.
This is supposed to be a constitutional republic.
Aristotle 2,500 years ago noted it, democracy, as a corrupted form of a polity.
It's never been good.
It's always the corrupted form of a good government.
That's what it is.
And so I'm sick of the boomers conditioning us to think democracy is good.
And this is the thing.
It really is the corrupted form of the second good regime, according to Aristotle, which is rule by a few, an oligarchy.
And that's what George Carlin's talking about when he talks about the club that you and I ain't in.
robert f kennedy-jr
So.
unidentified
Yeah.
sarah stock
Yeah, really when they say, when they always say, the left always says, we need to protect our democracy or Trump's a threat to democracy.
It's like, yeah, it's true, but what do you guys mean by democracy?
It's like not actually a good thing.
It's all these people pretending that somehow the power is in the hands of the people, but the power is in the hands of way too many people, first of all, because we have mass democracy now.
And then also it's like, it's not really in the hands of anyone except for the people controlling the money and the media.
elijah schaffer
Real fast to note, by the way, Mike, can you watch levels on the clips?
Because they're saying that they're really low in the volumes here.
So I don't know what it is.
It might just be maybe the computer volume on the board might be low or something.
So maybe we'll just bounce that up.
Yeah, so, but on a side note, okay, so I do want to talk about not just the democracy side of things, but I find this to be really interesting.
I've always stated that, you know, I don't work with the Illuminati on Tuesdays, just Wednesdays and Fridays.
Now, I'm not involved in the club, okay?
But I have peered into it.
I have seen people who are in it.
I have been around them.
I do understand the clique and not just the Illuminati, but like there is rivalry, right?
I mean, there is a level of, like, isn't, is it Candice's husband?
It's a Freemason?
unidentified
No.
timothy gordon
No, George wouldn't be.
elijah schaffer
Who is it, the Freemason?
Who is it that I'm trying to think of who is it as a Freemason over in the British world?
There's somebody, maybe it's with GB News.
That's what I'm thinking of.
Somebody's a Freemason.
And I know a lot of Freemasons founded our country.
There's a lot of secret societies.
There's a lot of clubs and social entourages you can be a part of.
But I just kind of bring up the interesting faction here.
When you realize that the world, there is no such thing as a representative democracy.
There never can be a true republic because a republic can exist maybe for one, two, three generations, right?
But if you let the people change, then the republic doesn't exist.
If the republic is a representation of the people, let's say white Christian men of good stock, of good character, of good reputation, but then you change the demographics of the country to that's not who the people are.
You water down the religion, you water down the racial identity, you water down the voting, you know, established identity of who people are.
You change the country through a fake civil war that was really an invasion.
You know, you radically transform the union.
You change the federalist, anti-federalist ideas in the country and you tip it towards a stronger central government.
Do you really have a representative government?
We're representing who?
And you find out that that's why a country that loses its identity actually ends up becoming a democracy, not a republic.
Because when you lose your central identity, core identity of who you are, then you actually are more tyrannical, more authoritarian than anything.
And it's even more disgusting because people think their vote matters.
And it's just like, look, all you have to do to control the population here is just rig the primaries.
unidentified
Yeah.
michael hennessey
Yeah.
Unfortunately, the politicians nowadays and almost every country that we're running into does not care about whoever voted for them.
They don't care about their own country.
What they do is it's just one big group, as you were mentioning, that we're not a part of.
We've seen it time and time again.
I mean, Ukraine, you have people that don't want to go to war.
What they're doing is they're grabbing young men.
They're dragging them out on the battlefield.
As far as Israel is concerned, the American people, we wanted nothing to do with Iran.
And what ended up happening is we started getting dragged into that war as well.
Same with the Ukraine war.
And, you know, France and all these other countries, they're doing the same thing.
There's a lot of people within their country that doesn't want the mass migration, doesn't want all these illegals pouring over their board.
You know, they're worried for their women, their children.
Justifiably, they should be.
But their government just continues to do this time and time again.
You know, and as you mentioned, what they do is you drag in a bunch of people from all over the earth and then you change the demographic.
It's easier to control.
People are less united.
And that's the problem that we're running into.
And another thing you do is you allow crime to continue.
You allow crime to, you know, grow, make things more dangerous.
They're well aware of crime statistics, the ones that they're hiding, the ones that they're manipulating, but they continue to allow it.
And that, and in my opinion, that's just leading us more also towards not even just separating us as a people, but then also creating more of a police state.
So that's where you have companies like Palantir coming in and all these others.
So this way you can have mass monitoring and really keep an eye on all of us.
So this is all just part of their plan.
I don't think this comes down to them actually caring about the people that voted for them.
Macron, maybe he just got upset because he keeps getting slapped in the face by the dude.
But it's nothing about trying to help the people that voted for them.
What it is is trying to keep their agenda moving forward.
And that's why we see the attack on Candace.
That's why we see the attack on Tucker.
That's why we see the attack on everybody else because they realize that they're losing grip on this narrative that they've kept for years, the narrative that tricked the boomers, the narratives that tricked all these other generations.
And it's not working anymore.
You know, we have platforms like X.
Yes, X has trouble as well as far as limiting free speech.
We've seen that with the H-1Bs, but it's allowing the American people and allowing other people to get their voice out there.
And really, that shakes things up.
And that's why we're seeing that happening.
And we're also seeing the fact that now they're trying to limit the free speech because they're worried about the truth that's being revealed every single day.
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Yeah.
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unidentified
Let's go.
elijah schaffer
We want to give a huge, by the way, and you, $100 super chats get printed out and put on our wall.
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Off topic.
Did Tim see the Jay Dyer debate on capturing Christianity?
What are his thoughts?
There's a good question.
In the middle, it's $100.
You can interrupt the show.
So you're good.
timothy gordon
Yeah.
So that debate that Jay had with another Orthodox guy who was against two Catholic guys really grew out of the debate that he and I had with a Protestant guy on Tim Pool's show a couple Fridays ago.
I thought we were going to go on Capturing Christianity or some other channel to do a more formal debate.
I haven't yet seen the whole thing, the whole two by two, but it's been raging on Twitter, this whole question of does Islam worship the same God as Christianity?
Is there such a thing as natural religion?
Is there a real way to tell with human reason alone what the true God is?
And yeah, I have lots of thoughts about that, but I haven't been able to catch the entire thing yet.
And at some point, Jay and I are going to hash it out in a formal debate on some large platform because blood sport debate doesn't really work.
If you saw the Tim Pool thing, it was just a lot of shouting.
elijah schaffer
And by the way, and thanks, guys.
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So you literally just purchased our dinner.
That was really great.
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Plus, you got to get that protein in as we're just crushing the dumbbells.
All right.
Moving along on this, I did want to bring up something interesting.
So I think we have a video here.
I'll only stay on this topic for about another second here.
But Candace Owens was on Tim Dylan and talked about this.
I just want to watch this.
This is what they're threatened by.
This is the last point I wanted to make.
Democracies are so weak that they're threatened by podcasts.
And I don't think people understand the social order because we're going to talk a little about culture later.
Don't you want your country back?
Ha ha.
Not going to happen.
Not about that or whatever.
Yeah, it's crazy.
sarah stock
It was stuck in my head all day long.
elijah schaffer
Was it?
sarah stock
I was singing it throughout the house.
unidentified
Yeah.
sarah stock
Stuck in my head.
elijah schaffer
That's not what he's saying.
Dead to the IDF.
unidentified
That's what he was saying too, by the way.
sarah stock
That was the one they got mad about, though.
They didn't care about him coming after the white British people.
They just cared about him coming after a foreign military.
elijah schaffer
No, we'll cover it too later, but there's also a clip.
We don't have it on the show, but like it was titled, You Almost Got Me There, because another black artist at Glastonbury was like, You know, they say that, you know, you want to take your country back, but you know, how about, yeah, how about we take our country back?
How about we do that?
We get the country back.
And everyone starts screaming.
You're like, oh my gosh, it goes, back from the right-wing extremists, back from the white supremacists.
Oh, you almost got me.
timothy gordon
I saw what you did there.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I was like, I almost backed you.
I was like, yeah.
My base, I thought it was the Hodge twins, like third, the Hodge triplet, you know, that was lost.
I was like, let's go.
All right, check this out.
robert f kennedy-jr
Who is Brigitte Macron?
candace owens
Brigitte Macron was an individual who was born Jean-Michel Tragneau.
And the relation to Emmanuel is that I can't say for certain.
You know, that's why we did not conclude how they are related.
My sense is it's the missing uncle whose name is Jean-Michel, who was God, who was the godfather when Emmanuel Macron got first communion at school, who's just missing.
Like there's just like a missing.
That's my best bet is that it's an uncle.
But I don't know.
I don't know.
I know that without question that Brigitte Macron was not born a woman.
elijah schaffer
All right, let me ask you this.
So besides the democracy thing, making claims like this, you know, about someone, like she's making a factual claim, you know, she can't really get sued because they're from another country.
timothy gordon
She said, I think, also.
elijah schaffer
Oh, good for her.
Good for her.
timothy gordon
I opine that.
elijah schaffer
I mean, but yeah, anyway, apparently this is such a big issue that they're willing to keep the war going.
I just kind of want to remind people of that.
They literally hate you and will let your children die.
They will let your women get raped.
They will bring Pakistanis in to gang rape your kids.
They will allow you to be stabbed at a football game as long as you're nice to their wife and they get to go onto an island to watch Jeff Bezos get married.
That's all they care about.
They hate you.
They laugh at your death.
And in fact, your deaths are a blood ritual to the devil.
It's not even a joke.
They have to sacrifice you because why?
Because why?
There's two major conflicts the West is involved in, and they're both led by presidents that have the same religion.
unidentified
That is Jehovah Witnesses.
elijah schaffer
So it's the Amish.
No, I don't know.
I don't want to belabor the point here, but the fact that Trump got involved, everything here, it makes me believe that what she's exposing is something deeper.
We know that there is a conspiracy about everyone being married to men and that these are homosexuals who, by the way, it's Pride Month last day, so we're very happy.
You know, it's very good.
We loved it.
The naked men walk around kids and stuff.
It's very, very good for the country.
You know, we're very, very supportive of all that stuff.
Tim himself has said, you know, if only we could get more of that, the country might be saved.
unidentified
Just saying that.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, just saying that.
But yeah, I genuinely believe that this shows that there is something going on.
And I'm convinced that this is, they don't want her to expose something that she's on the precipice of, including like the Zionism, these other ideas.
She's kind of hitting on something.
And I got to ask the question, though.
Like, is Fuentes correct in the fact that he's suspicious?
She came out of nowhere.
Like, not really, but like, you know, like she's getting, she's kind of plugged in.
There's something deeper going on here.
Is she clout chasing?
Does she know things and she's playing to the audience?
Or is she legit doing a good job and exposing the corruption and Zionism?
Like, is this, is she legit or is she a plant?
I think she's legit, but my opinion doesn't matter.
I kind of want to know what you guys think.
timothy gordon
It seems grassroots to me.
I don't know Candace.
I know her husband and we're friends.
I respect him a great deal.
And they're people with integrity.
They're Catholics, so I'm partial to them.
And you're not going to catch me badmouthing Catholics publicly, but I know that they're serious tradition-minded Catholics.
And everything she says has the motives of credibility.
For one thing, I thought she thought that his wife was really his dad, not an uncle.
That's changed a little bit.
You can't say it too directly, but I thought the theory was dad, not uncle.
elijah schaffer
Well, I just watched some podcasts where they said that George was a Freemason or something.
That's why I was asking if that was true.
timothy gordon
People just say a lot.
elijah schaffer
People just say a lot of things.
sarah stock
I don't think that's true.
I don't think that's true.
timothy gordon
You're not allowed to be as dad.
elijah schaffer
I'm just saying that they say a lot of things on podcasts.
That's all my point.
timothy gordon
Yeah.
People say a lot of shit on podcasts.
elijah schaffer
Mike Medoza's a Freemason, 33rd degree, too.
Black belt, jiu-jitsu.
Quadrant three.
timothy gordon
I'm a blue Mason, though.
michael mendoza
Oh, wait, that's Star Trek.
Never mind.
Sorry.
elijah schaffer
No, yeah.
Way in, Sarah.
I know there's a little bit of a delay with you, but we'll let you jump in there.
sarah stock
Yeah, I feel the same way.
I think she's totally legit.
I think she is more red-pilled on certain things than she lets on.
And I think that's because of strategic reasons, because she doesn't want to come across as too crazy or something.
But I don't think it's a bad strategy.
I don't think everyone needs to just go fully off the deep end and say the complete truth about everything.
As long as they're leading people in that direction, I don't really have a problem with it.
And then also, when it comes to this, you know, Macron story, I was pretty skeptical at first because I think the right wing does have this like weird obsession with conspiracy theories where it's like some of the time they're right, but then a lot of times it's like the waters are being muddied by these silly conspiracy theories.
It's like, I don't really personally think Michelle Obama is actually a man.
I don't know if you guys do believe that.
I just don't actually think it's true.
I think it kind of makes us look stupid to say that with no evidence.
And I was feeling the same way about this at the beginning with Candace.
And now it's just like, I don't know, maybe with all the journalists, with the French government coming after her, and now with our own government calling her up, it's like, it's probably true, to be honest.
I don't, I don't see why it wouldn't be true.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I think do we have a picture here?
Were they actually on the boat?
Let me see how fast they are.
Here they are on the boat.
timothy gordon
Look at this.
So get a little zoom in on that.
elijah schaffer
This is a.
timothy gordon
Get a sensor bar first.
Heaven's sakes.
elijah schaffer
It could be the magic.
timothy gordon
This dude looks like a lady.
elijah schaffer
It could be a pubic bone, though.
Yeah.
That she sharpened on a rock for 200 years to go to war with.
timothy gordon
And then it sagged down in two different planes.
Yeah, I think that's the picture is worth a thousand words.
elijah schaffer
He's got a pointy nipple, though.
He's got pointy tits.
timothy gordon
Congratulations, sir.
No, I would say that Candace herself makes a pretty strong case.
I watched with my wife the first episodes of becoming Brigitte, and it's rather compelling.
But I'm a little bit, I'm tempted to say grow up when Sarah, you're saying that Michelle is not a man, you know, just to reverse the standard of review there.
But I think the case for Michelle has been made mainly by pictures as well, in a Norman Rockwell way, similar to the picture we just saw.
But there seems to be something.
I don't know what they do in that club, but it's a very odd club.
elijah schaffer
She's an American football fan.
Do you know that?
timothy gordon
No.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Do you know what?
I'm not joking.
You know what team she likes?
timothy gordon
No.
elijah schaffer
The Packers.
timothy gordon
I knew it was coming.
unidentified
Yeah, no, I have questions about Bathhouse Berry.
michael hennessey
Yeah.
I have questions about Bathhouse Barry and Big Mike as well.
timothy gordon
But I love those.
unidentified
Millennials will never not love the Bathhouse Berry.
michael hennessey
Bathhouse Berry, man.
And as far as Macron goes, yes, the pushback makes me believe this even more, what Candace is doing.
But I do believe Candace is legit.
One thing about Candace's show is: no, I don't watch all of Candace's shows.
There's certain subjects, for instance, like the Dylan, what was it, Mulvaney or whatever it was they had.
And then, you know, other ones that she does on celebrities.
I'm not a big fan of watching those things.
But the one thing I will say is a lot of times it works out well because it's kind of like a halfway point to gather people more over to the truth.
What happens is when we come on too strong, we give too much factual information.
A lot of times we'll scare these people away who are just starting to grab the breadcrumbs, just starting to move forward.
So I think Candace is a good halfway point to try to get people to really open their eyes, see what's happening.
Nick is more straight to the veins.
Nick Fuente, shout out to him.
But I do think that Candace is kind of like that transitioning the way she does that.
And that's how she's able to gather more of an audience.
But I do believe she believes what she's saying.
timothy gordon
You got to be careful how you say transitioning, bro.
michael hennessey
Yeah, especially in this one, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Okay.
Okay.
So kind of transitioning topics here.
You know, no, but genuinely, I do find it to be a bit intriguing.
Just to remind you guys, if you're watching on Rumble, just for the sake of growing our YouTube channel, please, I put the link into subscribe to our new YouTube channel.
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And we're looking, I'm abandoning a YouTube channel with half a million subscribers, you know, to restart a new YouTube channel for the sake of the fact that we believe that, you know, it's better for the health of long-term, our long-term plan.
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Sometimes we have on pretty intense guests.
Sometimes we have pretty normal guests, but we keep it a very, very open and front open front.
The difference between us and let's say other shows like Tim Poole, okay, what I don't know what just happened there.
All right, then Tim Poole is that, you know, most importantly, we are willing to talk about the dangers of extreme Zionism in our government, right?
We're able to talk about, you know, some of these topics that people might not want to talk about because they're not advertiser friendly.
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That being said, I want to change the topic here onto something rather kind of interesting.
So there was a really, really, really pretty insane.
I'm going to see if we have it here.
Do we have the interview?
Here we go.
We have a pretty insane interview with RFK Jr. and Tucker Carlson.
I just don't know if it's okay to even play this stuff, but listen to this interview that he gave.
This is the head of the CDC, by the way.
So I don't know how someone could get mad about this on YouTube, but listen to this.
robert f kennedy-jr
What you would do if you wanted to find the answer, which is to compare outcomes in a fully vaccinated group to health outcomes in an unvaccinated group.
And CDC did that study in 1999.
They brought in a team of scientists under a Belgian researcher named Thomas Verstratten.
And they looked at the data.
They looked at children who had received the hepatitis vaccine within their first 30 days of life and compared those children to children who had received the vaccine later were not at all.
And they found an 11, 135% elevated risk of autism among the vaccinated children.
And it shocked them.
They kept the study secret and they manipulated it through five different iterations to try to bury the link.
And, you know, we know how they did it.
They got rid of all the older children, essentially, and just had younger children who were too young to be diagnosed.
And they stratified the data and they did a lot of other tricks.
And all of those studies were the subject of those kind of that kind of tricks.
elijah schaffer
I think we're going to avoid the V-word here, but I want to talk about this here.
RFK has a few different claims he makes in this interview with Tucker, and I want to start here.
It's really interesting that a lot of times you have to be careful with arguments about controversial topics because the way that people tell the truth while lying is that they'll say something like, all of these jabs that you give a kid do not cause autism.
And it may actually be true.
Maybe 99.9% of them have no link at all.
But when you do a study and you do them all, you test them all together.
If one, let's just say, had a study and showed its connection to autism, like it did in Belgium, then statistically, it's less than a 5% standard deviation, which means that though it would be, you know, scientifically ambiguous to not actually mention the study, you could ethically, in a peer-reviewed journal, throw out the study because you're talking about 37, 60, 72 scheduled injections, multiple rounds of the injections, maybe over 100 injections over the life of a child.
And then you would look and go, oh, okay, yeah, one injection looks to cause something in a late stage of development.
Then you can go, but it's only 1%.
And so, you know, theoretically, overall, the general understanding is that these injections are safe, that they're healthy and that they don't cause autism.
And this is what how group cumulative studies end up causing, you know, have very biased outcomes.
You publish that because if you spend all this money doing this research and you find something, and I know this from doing my own and I, you know, my own research, I'll just say, I'm going to say for who because I was an NDA, but do my own research is that, you know, if you find something that goes against peer-reviewed science, which means generally accepted science, if you find data, you're actually wrong.
And that's how they accept it.
Like you did something wrong.
So if you find data that goes against the generally perceived notion of accepted scientific data, you're incorrect.
And what RFK came out and said is actually, you know, if you break down these studies and you look at one individual product that's given to children, this one study in Belgium did find that in late stage development, it was causing neurological stunting, that people were not developing correctly, that they were showing abnormal learning behavior.
And then they manipulated everything and changed the data because they were afraid.
And I'm going to remind you this.
The reason why they're afraid is because they're humans.
And if you work yourself for 10 years and get your PhD or you get your medical license and people are, you know, you find data that it could get you blacklisted, you might lose your entire life work.
And I think that's what he's pointing out here that there are studies that, because he has a task force researching this, that there are studies that have been altered, changed, or thrown out that show that maybe hepatitis B injection is linked to some adverse side effects.
Again, that's not my claim.
It's not the claim of the show.
I haven't read the studies, but that's the CDC.
You know, that's the direct technology, it's not the direct of the CDC, but it's HHS or whatever, but still, it's technically above the director.
This is the guy in charge of health is saying that we've been lied to about this.
I'm not shocked, but I don't know if you think this is credible.
I don't know if you think that there is a link or if it's just that maybe it was so ridiculous and they didn't, they didn't really want to talk about it.
Well, I don't know what your thought is on this, but I feel like that's kind of a bombshell for the HHS director to actually say, hey, there's an 11, 1,135% increase in the chance of developmental disorders when you get this one injection.
That's kind of a crazy statement.
timothy gordon
Oh, naturally.
I mean, what we've been learning for the last five years is crazy, and there's no nice way to say it.
We thought these people were the crazy ones.
And we won't say the V word.
We were avoiding the V word when we were talking about Brigitte and Michelle Obama.
It's a different one.
You can't even say it in reference to those people, but a different V word we're going to avoid saying here.
And yeah, I think the public is turning on that.
I think their behavior and their protesting too, they're consistently protesting too much, you know, from, I don't know, the years 2020 to about 2023 has turned the tide.
I don't know especially a lot about it, but we know what happened in those years.
And the crazy don't sound so crazy anymore.
A lot of people red-pilled on it.
michael hennessey
Yeah, I mean, the pharmaceutical industry, unfortunately, we've all lost hope in it.
I mean, trust the science doesn't work anymore.
You know, the winter severe death never came, which, you know, Biden wanted to tell us was happening.
But the problem is the pharmaceutical industries have taken over, you know, television.
They're showing us ads that you don't see in other countries.
They've also taken over politicians, you know, big people like Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and many others are getting their pockets filled.
And we've seen time and time again where these studies are being altered, you know, and even just what the news is showing us is being altered.
I remember when Joe Rogan came out and he was talking about how he was treating what he was going through.
What the media did is they called him crazy.
They said that he was taking horse medicine.
They went ahead and even discolored the photos, the videos to make it look like he was pale, like he was sick.
And we've seen other credible, you know, scientists and as well as doctors that came forward.
And then what they did is they tried to demoralize them.
They tried to make them look like they were crazy, like they were just coming up with things.
So it's very unfortunate, but the pharmaceutical industry does has a very strong grip on the American people.
And this is something that we have to break away from.
We are a very unhealthy country.
Everything from the medicines we take to the food we digest, but we allow it to continue.
And the reason we allow it to continue is because people are getting paid.
So yes, we've all lost hope in it.
It's very unfortunate.
Something like that RFK is talking about, I could see definitely being true.
I don't know why a kid's actually getting that shot personally if their parents doesn't have any pre-existing condition that would be a reason for them to have that shot.
elijah schaffer
Steve on like jab or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
michael hennessey
For that jab.
Yeah, sorry about that.
But, you know, if there's no pre-existing condition, why is a child even having that?
I mean, what kind of scenario would a child need that unless it was like something really bad going on at home?
So, yeah, I mean, this is something that we need to pay attention to.
You know, as a country, we are declining every single day from all the things that we take, all the stuff that, you know, the jab, whatever.
So, yeah, we have to take this more serious.
Otherwise, we're just going to become a more unhealthy nation.
And we see the grasp that they have on us.
elijah schaffer
You know, and by the way, it's not even going around censorship.
Like, I actually just call these things experimental products because that's really what it is.
michael hennessey
They are experimental to the point where when we go ahead and then they forced it upon the American people, saying this is everything is safe, everything is effective, you have nothing to worry about.
But then, in the same breath, saying, No, you can't go ahead, you can't sue the pharmaceutical industries, no matter what kind of repercussions that your body has due to, you know, everything.
You can't go back, you can't sue them, you can't do this.
And I don't know, if something's that safe and effective, then why are you setting up all these guidelines where we can't even go ahead and point out when something bad happens?
Why can't we go ahead and confront the people that are giving us these things and say, Hey, listen, you got me sick, my children are sick, I'm having women are having a hard time with childbirth cancer rates, whatever it may be.
But they don't allow us to go ahead and confront them.
So, what they did is they went ahead, they fed us a lie, they told us, you know, one is going to fix you.
Okay, maybe now, two, maybe now, three, maybe now, four, and it just kept adding up.
And you become a pincushion, pretty much, for all this experiment.
And then you can't go ahead and you can't even confront the manufacturers who are providing this to you with all the lies that our government gave us.
michael mendoza
You know, you know what I call it?
The scam damn.
sarah stock
Wow, so original.
So original.
michael mendoza
I know you think.
elijah schaffer
Sarah was a lovely slant run.
She had her sixth birthday during 2020, by the way.
It was really good.
No, but you did miss out on a lot.
Like, you're actually the, I hate to say the word victim, but like that sucks.
Like, being in like that transitional age of like high school, college, and like having that happen during the formative years of like prom and everything like that.
Like, that had to have sucked, right?
Sarah?
I feel like that actually sucks.
sarah stock
Well, thankfully, my parents didn't, they were red-pilled on this stuff before I was born somehow, like before it became popular to talk about it all.
So I never got any of the experiments, which is great.
And somehow me and my siblings all came out perfectly healthy, didn't get hepatitis B or whatever it is, or any of these things.
And yeah, so when COVID happened, wait, are we even allowed to say that, right?
elijah schaffer
Probably not.
sarah stock
Oh, okay.
elijah schaffer
You have never met on YouTube.
timothy gordon
I don't know what's safe, to be honest.
unidentified
No, that's the only one.
elijah schaffer
No, because they have a smart AI and they've trained it.
So there's just a couple words.
There's really only basically like three words you can't say.
And you and Mike have so far hit two of them.
sarah stock
So, okay, okay.
I'll restart.
elijah schaffer
Let's get back to our conversation.
I don't care.
We'll lose money on one.
timothy gordon
I'm doing YouTube videos streaming in 21 and 22 where you're like, so, hello.
I, because you're going through the codex, the Roman codex of words you're not allowed to say.
elijah schaffer
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
And then you could, I would like to greet you all.
timothy gordon
Have I said it?
You're like, check it out.
elijah schaffer
They also said you couldn't criticize the Ukraine war.
You couldn't be pro-Russia.
I remember we got a video.
timothy gordon
Defection scams was number one.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And you also couldn't question the election.
You couldn't question Ukraine.
You couldn't question their experimental pharmaceutical products.
You couldn't question anything.
And then they also started out with the no LGBT thing.
So if you were criticizing pride, they also started creating that as a hate crime.
And then they did the pronouns.
They did all this stuff.
And I remember, yeah, you'd just be like, so those gay people fighting the evil Russians in Ukraine need some more pharmaceutical products.
Am I right, folks?
And they'd be like, yeah.
And they have like $200 a minute on your video.
It was crazy.
timothy gordon
It was a wild time.
unidentified
Anyway, and January 6th, you couldn't say it was not.
elijah schaffer
You couldn't say it was not the worst event.
If you said anything that tried to justify the event, do you remember that?
Anything you tried to justify the event on YouTube would be taken down as well.
I remember that.
Got a video taken down for saying that it wasn't a terrorist event.
timothy gordon
I would just go through and take them down, which I prefer to the story.
elijah schaffer
And the links, 200 people.
unidentified
Down the links and the, but they would also put the, they would also put the.
elijah schaffer
Uh, they would also put the the, the warning, like disclaimer if they didn't take it down anyway.
It's, Youtube is crazy.
But we are rebuilding Youtube because I do think it's going to get better.
I honestly personally think it's getting better.
I just the algorithms, you can't be.
You know, you're on Instagram and you the same thing.
michael hennessey
It's like, no matter how much you try, they try to block everything and then a lot of times when I find that they're blocking something, that just means you're getting closer to the truth.
But yeah, they silence everything, even with Lgbtq plus Abcd, whatever.
Um, for a while there I was even putting hashtag protect the children and I was like showing the events and stuff like that, and the hashtag blew up.
It got like I think half a million other people were uh, reposting it and then they went and got rid of the hashtag because yeah don't, don't you dare protect the children, you know so um yeah, so it's.
It's sad, but we've seen that all across the platforms.
elijah schaffer
Oh yeah, someone put, remember they that Ukraine killed Gonzalo Lira?
Remember that, dude?
I knew Gonzalo Lira, by the way, and i'm not like people say, I knew him.
I knew him.
We used to talk on, you know, because he was a he's a Gonzo journalist at the time.
Remember, Ukraine killed him because he was uh pushing the boundaries on youtube and they just killed him.
And then, American he's American, by the way citizen Ukraine killed an American assassin, American citizen uh, and then it was like, oh well, you know, he was criticizing them on youtube um, and then, by the way, I was laughing because uh, the minister of public affairs in Ukraine like retweeted a video of like Orbon, of like Hungry, and it was like, one day, Hungry will be democratic again.
And it was like, didn't you ban elections and all opposition parties in Ukraine?
You twat, I don't know.
Like it's just crazy.
timothy gordon
Anyway, watch out bro, the trad cats are gonna come at you for uh, saying stuff against Orbon is easy Catholic.
No well, they just, they just think it's based to to, to be Orbon to Jason, which I, I never, i'm not down with that.
elijah schaffer
So Sarah, continue then.
Are you Orbon?
sarah stock
Uh sure yeah okay, if that's what the trad cats want, you know, i'm just gonna submit to the authority and go along with that, all right well, let me, let me play this.
elijah schaffer
So um, one thing interesting that he brought up here for further evidence was uh, basically what goes on in the medical practice.
This is like a really important topic.
What happens?
I know, for an instance, I have really good insurance uh, like not everyone here does, so i'm not posting, I just spend a lot of my money on insurance for my family like right, I have kids.
So it's like when you're single, you don't really have to spend a lot of money on insurance.
When you have kids, you can't really risk it um, and it's very expensive.
But uh, you know, I thought it was funny, because barely any doctors will see my family because we don't take these products.
You know what I mean?
They won't see my kids, they won't they, they won't allow them, and they'll actually kick you out uh, which gets even crazier.
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michael hennessey
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Yeah yeah, they're with me every night.
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unidentified
Still waiting for my slippers, which i'm always put on spots like i've been enjoying it.
elijah schaffer
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michael hennessey
I cuddle.
timothy gordon
It cools my epidermis.
It cuddles my epidermis.
elijah schaffer
I have a my epiglottis likes moving while I'm in its presence.
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unidentified
Cool.
elijah schaffer
Thank you.
And it's made in America, which is the big deal.
timothy gordon
Also, you live in South Florida.
elijah schaffer
Well, the houses are always like 50 degrees.
timothy gordon
That's okay.
elijah schaffer
We have to keep the mold out.
The mold here is bad.
Speaking of mold, RFK Jr., go to that clip, Ruiz.
timothy gordon
I thought you were doing it.
unidentified
No, you're just like, oh, we got to pray at the wall later.
michael hennessey
That's how I look laying in the sheets.
elijah schaffer
Oh, man.
timothy gordon
Does it cool your skin though?
elijah schaffer
Freaking the sheets.
michael hennessey
I could just feel it.
elijah schaffer
Freaking the freaking the perkales sheets.
A lady in the streets, they say, right?
timothy gordon
He doesn't look human there.
We got to start this or just keep it.
elijah schaffer
All right, listen.
Listen to me.
timothy gordon
He looks like a saddlebag with eyes.
elijah schaffer
Check this out.
timothy gordon
There's no disrespect.
robert f kennedy-jr
There's a published article out there now that says that 50% of revenues to most pediatricians come from vaccines.
And then there's a whole structure where Blue Cross and the other insurance companies pay bonuses to the pediatrician to make sure if, for example, 95% of their clients are fully vaccinated, they get a huge bonus.
It could be tens of thousands of dollars.
And that's why you're a pediatrician.
If you say, I want to go slow on the vaccines or I want to have a little different schedule, your pediatrician will throw you out of his practice because you're now jeopardizing that bonus structure.
And these are all perverse incentives that stop doctors from actually practicing medicine and caring for the client because they're looking at the bottom line.
There's a published article.
elijah schaffer
So it is kind of crazy to read what The Vigilant Fox, great account, by the way, you should check him out.
So there's a published article out there now that says 50% of revenues to most pediatricians come from these products.
You know, can we talk about the fact that I don't think it's really, that's really the case?
Because Sarah's, I want to know what it's like in Canada, but in Australia, they have social health care and everybody takes these.
And the doctors are on fixed incomes.
But I would want to know this.
This is an interesting question.
Do the governments get payouts from the pharmaceutical companies for compliance, even if it's not the doctor?
So I don't think the doctors are evil.
Somebody's getting the money, clearly.
But like Australians are rule followers.
They're not laid-back people.
They're like, oh, mate.
He's going to get a fine.
sarah stock
So I can't say for sure on this specific topic, but I do remember during the scam demic, I do know, like I knew people in the medical industry in Canada, and basically hospitals would get payouts from the government, like individual hospitals, even though it's socialized, they would get more funding from the government if basically they had more people diagnosed with the disease, I'm pretty sure.
So there was an incentive to basically died.
elijah schaffer
No, if people died if people died, yeah, yeah, yeah, if they died, it was on there.
sarah stock
People died with the disease.
These hospitals got more funding.
So there was a huge incentive to falsely diagnose people, or obviously the tests were kind of manipulated too.
And so I wouldn't be surprised, even though it is a socialized healthcare system, that it would happen with these drugs as well.
elijah schaffer
Somebody just called the show Goycast.
michael hennessey
Yeah, a lot of these doctors, they, you know, from what I've read as well, that they were also getting payouts, as Sarah mentioned there.
So that's probably why they were doing their TikTok dance.
They were just happy they had so much coming in.
But another thing that I found too is I've actually met representatives before that go to doctors' offices, make deals with the doctors, and they say that make sure that your patients are using a certain prescription and we'll give you a kickback.
So a lot of the medical field has been taken over in that sense, where they're giving you medication based off of a financial incentive.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
So let me play one more clip here.
I want to play something here.
Where is it?
I want to see, oh, here's the Fauci.
So he also dropped about Fauci, right?
Which is kind of crazy.
He drops why Fauci was given a pardon.
Of course, we all know why, but listen to this.
I mean, he said it.
And I just got to kind of question, you know, why is it that we have a lot of politicians that go on podcasts, go on Fox News?
People are constantly chatting up, talking about things, but like nothing ever happens.
No one's getting arrested.
No one's going to jail.
There's no accountability whatsoever.
It's just always like, well, by the way, you know, Fauci was committed a federal crime.
It's like, do something about it, buddy.
Because I want to play a clip.
I want to compare what happens in El Salvador and have a talk about neo-fascism a little bit and about what they're doing down El Salvador because I think it's some important things that were stated.
Watch what he says.
And then you tell me, why aren't we doing something about this?
Screw a presidential pardon.
Somebody committed an act of terror against the American people and the world.
Like they should be dealt with.
It's like, oh, well, you know, Hitler was given a pardon.
I don't think the liberals would like that, right?
What if you said that?
unidentified
Right.
elijah schaffer
Or what if you told the Magatards that Mao Zedong was given a pardon for his, you know, Chinese revolution?
Like, no, they're not going to accept that.
It's like, bro, you committed a genocide.
robert f kennedy-jr
Listen.
He got immunity.
Why did he need immunity?
You know, why did he need a pardon in advance?
What do you think the answer is?
You know, I would be speculating, but I think he, I think they're, I think he was vulnerable.
I think he had a lot of liability on creating coronavirus.
You know, he was funding precisely that research at the Wuhan lab.
And he was giving them the technology.
He was giving them, you know, he gave them not only the technology, the precise technology for developing that pathogen.
elijah schaffer
So we should probably have checked if Tucker got his episode taken down on YouTube.
michael hennessey
He said a lot of those keywords.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, but context matters.
Like they allow you if you're like quoting a government official or whatever.
Like that's just like their weird things.
And we don't really care about the censorship.
We're just trying to like figure out how to, how to work around it.
But dude, like that's actually pretty crazy claims.
And my point is, is that, look, we already think that we already knew that.
It's not new, but this is coming from a federal employee, you know, appointed by the duly elected president of the United States.
It's a high-level, you know, high-level security clearance employee who's very close to the president inside the inner circle, who's stating that somebody basically committed a seditious crime against the United States, committed bio-warfare against us, and is, you know, at least palpable.
You know, you can say that he's probably to blame.
And then it's like, oh, well, yeah, you know, well, but he got a pardon.
So, you know how it be.
You just can't do nothing.
And you go, dude, this is just stupid, man.
michael hennessey
Even before he got his pardon, you know, Fauci has a very dark past.
If you look at all the other pandemics, there are, you know, things that we had to happen that he was involved with, not to mention just, you know, what happened a couple of years ago.
But what it's come down to is there's been so many times our politicians have gone on TV and what they do is they just try to give the best soundbite.
You know, every single time, oh, we found something in the emails.
Oh, we found out it's connected to this.
And every single time they're like, you know, this is it.
Time, time to really go after Fauci, but they never do nothing.
Our politicians never do anything.
And this was going on way before the pardon even came out.
We were frustrated with what they put us through.
We were frustrated with the lies.
But what they did is they allowed it to continue.
And instead, they just, as I said, they just wanted to look good on camera for 30, 40 seconds and then leave it alone.
And the American people, we become like cheerleaders when we hear a politician say something, don't care if they follow through with it.
We're just like, yeah, did you hear him?
You really got him.
And it's like, no, let's really get him.
Let's lock him up.
Let's have him persecuted for the crimes that he committed, the lies that he told us and the poisoning of our country.
timothy gordon
You know, so it's instructive in the same way that the year of 2020 and 2021 was.
Because before normal-minded people that didn't subscribe to every conspiracy theory around the block would say, you know, bro, I would believe that, but you know, you can't keep a secret between three or more people in a room.
And that seemed compelling.
It's got natural purchase.
But what we learned, what most people learned in 2020 and 2021 is that the real conspiracies hide in plain sight.
And they hide in plain sight for the precise reason, logistically speaking, the rationale is that we can sit around and talk about it.
And it can even be a mouthpiece, a duly appointed mouthpiece.
The president of the United States of America.
Now, it's crazy hearing that ratification out of RFK's mouth.
We all knew he thought it.
Now he's saying it as a duly appointed guy by POTUS.
But what are we, that doesn't do anything.
So the people that step between the raindrops, the people that are in the club that George Carlin was talking about, they can have a portion 10%, 15%, even 20% of the population talking about him.
And you're brought back to the kind of black legend of the peasants about Draco and things like that.
They're out there whispering, even if they're 80% of the population, whispering about the horrible things that go on inside the castle and they can't do anything about it.
Ultimately, this is why democracy is BS is because we can know, even if we are a bigger contingent of the population than we are, the people that are red-pilled on X, Y, or Z, we can know to the tune of 20% of us, 25% of us, and we can't do anything about it.
Knowledge really isn't power.
Foucault was wrong.
Foucault was a gay man.
unidentified
But the point is we can know and we can talk about it.
elijah schaffer
He was a Republican.
timothy gordon
You know what I'm saying, though?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, no.
It is.
And it also is this too.
You know, people say, you know, it's like the Q-tards, you know, it's like, oh, you know, the White Hats are coming or this or that.
You know, I don't, this is going to be a shout out to Preger.
You know, Preger, you just worked with the White House on a series.
It's really good, by the way, of our founding fathers.
It takes their portraits and it reads from their journals about like their founding of the country.
And when you read these people, they weren't people who listened to podcasts.
They were just men of conviction and men who had a moral code and an ethical code.
And that's really why they did what they did.
It wasn't because they didn't even know if they were going to survive or a nation was going to be birthed.
What they knew is they were standing on principle.
And when you see that, like, you know, you don't realize our founding fathers had their homes burned down by the British, their wives imprisoned, their daughters raped, you know, like, and they, one of them was on the run for six years.
He had to run out naked in the field.
And, you know, like, these people sacrificed because they knew that liberty would come at a cost.
And like you said, like, knowledge being power and stuff, people think just because we know things, somehow there's like some sort of like, well, we know what they did during 2020, but that doesn't mean anything, right?
Because no one's willing to sacrifice anything, not even air conditioning.
You know what I mean?
timothy gordon
We're lesser sons of greater size.
Did the guy really need to be naked?
Is he?
elijah schaffer
Well, I think he like he was like, they like grabbed his nightcoat and he like had to run out of his house in the middle of the night.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
timothy gordon
That's too far.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Well, like, like, but I, but I want to play this because there's a, there's, there's this clip, right?
Everyone knows.
So I went down to El Salvador to try to talk with some government officials.
I wanted to understand, you know, really what neo-fascism was accomplishing in the nation.
Um, because they went from literally being the most dangerous country in the world, more dangerous than Iraq and you know, Afghanistan or any other country the U.S. has liberated.
So it was like they did to being safer than the United States.
And I went down there and it is a safe country, man.
You, you, you see the South Africanization of the country where like, there's like glass and you know large walls and it's very like you could tell that was like a war zone.
But there's, like you know, four foot girls walking around at two in the morning drinking, you know, hanging out, and they're not in any danger.
You're safer as a woman in El Salvador than you are in the United States as a woman walking around at night, and that even goes like I would have cash and I never felt you know somebody, even around here.
You gotta hide your cash.
Like I just pull out cash in poor areas.
timothy gordon
No one was gonna threaten to taunt him.
You're like hey look, I got cash.
You guys, let me talk to that poor guy.
I want to show him my stack again.
unidentified
You'll never be tall no, but four foot women, impoverished.
elijah schaffer
You step on them.
You don't have to use a gun.
No, but listen to this um list, listen to this speech from the president, and I want you to pay attention to his wording, because he's saying something very foreign to Western nations that I think we're gonna have to adopt here if we're gonna see any recovery.
unidentified
We're going to be, literally, literally, it's not an exaggeration, it's an hyperbole, literally, we're going to be the most insecure country of the world to be the most insecure country of all the occidental hemispheres.
timothy gordon
Even the applause sounds like a police thing.
You know?
unidentified
¿Y qué dijeron?
Está violando derechos humanos.
Los derechos humanos requieren.
He also points open hands, not closed like the Westerners.
elijah schaffer
Like this he does.
unidentified
It's really cool, sweet beard.
Anyway, you cut it.
elijah schaffer
He's good looking dude.
timothy gordon
He's Palestinian.
He's wearing the shit out of that shirt.
Oh, is he palestin?
unidentified
Le pregunto a estos periodistas, ¿por qué desean que nos maten?
¿Por qué desean ver sangre de salvadoreños?
¿Por qué no están felices de que en nuestro país ya no corre la sangre que corría antes?
¿Por qué deberir nosotros y nuestros hijos para que ustedes estén contentos que estamos respetando su falsa democracia que ni ustedes mismos respeten en sus propios países?
elijah schaffer
So I went down there.
I'm not joking.
It's not like Kim Jong-un, where like, you know, it's like, oh, the great leader.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, you go down there.
My Spanish isn't bad.
I can talk to the people down there in Spanish, and all they want to talk to you about is, oh, you're American.
Do you know what our president did?
It's such a good country.
He saved us all.
Like, I mean, I'm not going to get down to the crime, but like, you know, the phrase nickel and diming literally comes from what robbers used to do down there, where like you'd get on the bus and they would just collect your nickels and dimes before they even let the bus go.
In fact, the way that he fixed the country and his funding the country is he saved the country only has several billion dollars of GDP.
And from my understanding, from when I was down there, it was like the criminal activity were taking like several billion dollars a year from the economy.
So he was able to increase the economy by like 30% and pay for the entire operation of the government by just getting rid of the crime.
So like they don't have to like tax corporations and stuff and they're able to like just bring anyone in.
But he says some important things there, which is like, you know, you journalists basically, you're the problem because you, you know, you report things so deceptively.
It's like, oh, well, why'd you violate the human rights of like 60,000 people?
And he's like, so that 6 million can be free.
You know, is it really violating the rights of humans or is it getting control of the problem so that honest people can have human rights?
Is there really human rights here if we're ruled by violence and criminality?
It's like in America, like, but what if black people are upset?
And what if Mexicans don't like that?
What if the what if the nation is free and prosperous again?
And he tells them to that the journalists, why do you want our blood to be spilled?
Why do you want the reality of our life to be shitty and deadly so that you can present a fake democracy so you can write?
Like, look how good El Salvador is.
They respect human rights.
Don't you care more about reality than what it looks like on paper that our people are prosperous and free?
And I'm telling you, you got to go down there.
You're going to go down there.
These people are so happy.
They're like liberated.
It's what they thought was going to happen in Baghdad.
The people have this jubilant excitement.
They're poor people.
Like, I love living in El Salvador.
Everyone should move here.
It's so great.
People are moving back to El Salvador from America.
Americans are moving to El Salvador.
It's a genuinely insane feeling.
But I'm just pointing out the fact that he points out something we have to adopt, which is his neo-fascism worked.
A police state does work when it's led by the right people.
It's dangerous when it's in the hands of the wrong people, but so is democracy.
michael hennessey
Yeah, I mean, it could definitely be dangerous.
It's something we have to be careful of.
But El Salvador was crumbling.
I mean, it was one of the most dangerous places you could be.
People couldn't walk the streets safely.
You know, cartels were pretty much running everything.
So he went in there, he cleaned everything up.
And I know the Democrats here are excited because they want to just keep bringing all those criminals back no matter how many times we send them over.
You know, it got to the point where he went ahead, he took the, you know, the actual people that were from that country.
He put them first.
He didn't put, you know, outsiders first.
He didn't put, you know, criminals first.
He didn't allow them to manipulate and pull on our heartstrings by saying, you know, like, as he said, the news and the media was lying because that's what we see here.
And what you see now is you've seen he's actually turned that country completely around.
So I give him a lot of credit.
It's amazing that he was able to have it done that fast.
And I wish we would clean up more here.
Do I think we need a police state here?
No, I'm not really for a police state, but I mean, something drastic does have to be done.
So that's where I'm kind of torn.
timothy gordon
The military state.
sarah stock
Yeah.
I see that.
Yeah, I see that.
I'm like, why can't we just do that in America?
Like, why can't we just put the military in the streets of Chicago?
No, but seriously, it's like, why don't we do what we did with the anti-ICE protests and just declare it a national emergency because it is one because we have been invaded by illegal immigrants.
Why don't we multiply the amount of ICE agents by like 10 by just putting the military on the streets, deporting people who are here illegally and jailing people who are in gangs?
Why can't we do it?
timothy gordon
I think Trump, like I think the context of neo-fascism is, I don't know, maybe necessary for a tinpot dictatorship in a banana republic.
And I don't know who's doing 70 to 80% of their violent crime, I think more.
What is it?
86% of the violent crimes.
Here, we know who.
And our unwillingness, this is kind of a magic spell that the boomers really wove.
Our unwillingness to, as a country, say, okay, this is who's doing 80% of the violent crimes, even though they're under 20% of the population.
When you're not willing to say, well, look, like racism, what the boomers would call racism, could really solve our crime statistics.
I think you try that first before you try neo-fascism.
No, like, well, legalize you guys.
unidentified
That's great.
elijah schaffer
Legalize racism.
timothy gordon
Yeah, we'll make racism great again.
And we're talking about what boomers would call racism.
When you have a target population that does such a disproportionately high number of the violent crime, which is all anyone really cares about, the violent crime, then you try that first.
We can use surgical precision to just start talking about it openly.
And I think in a place like this, maybe I'm the dissenting voice here, but I think you start talking about it openly and you start not just joking about it or making jokes with your white friends and then looking over your shoulders, but just saying, look, like blacks do all the crime here.
And so something needs to be done.
And it's not all blacks, but it's a lot of blacks do pretty much all of the violent crime here.
And we have to be able to talk about that.
And your boomer relatives are the ones tugging their collars at the table, getting uncomfortable.
But I don't know.
I don't know exactly how you solve it here, aside from that's definitely the first step.
elijah schaffer
Just try enforcing the laws that exist.
But it's also, we have to change the structures.
What I'm saying is because like she asked, why is it not happening here?
And it's because like, dude, it's just like you saw in LA, they can crush riots, like they can stop them.
But it's just, we've allowed people who are not us.
Like, look at, look at the Zorhan Mamdani.
Like, it's like a dude who's trying to push eating with his hands on us, right?
So he's saying, like, I eat my hands.
I'm from the third world.
The third world is better.
We have non-white immigrants and these people pushing their third worldism on us.
And they're like, you know, they get into office like Jasmine Crockett, AOC are good examples.
And all of a sudden they have like ghetto accents.
Like you have AOC who's from Yorktown, a high-end white area where her current, her home she grew up in is worth somewhere between $500,000, $800,000.
You know, the average home price in her neighborhood is $800,000, $900,000 from a good high school.
She's like a science fair winner, went to Boston University, a top university going, I'm just a girl from the Bronx.
You know, I'm a Bronx girl.
And Jasmine Crockett being like, who didn't give that?
Where's my crab legs and my Altima?
Who heard that beep from that thing?
You know, like there, it's like we're appealing to like a lower form of civilization.
And it's, it's the South Africanization of the country where we're, we, we are, you know, like, I don't know.
I just, I was talking to a Rhodesian, you know, I've talked to a lot of Rhodesian of my friends.
It's like, dude, they had curfews for the Native Africans, you know, eight o'clock, the sirens would blare and they had to be inside or they got arrested.
And that was the only way they kept violence down.
They had to keep the Africans off the streets after eight.
And so when The communists, with the help of the United States, remember the United States paired with the communists to collapse the white ethnostate because they wanted to create gay global democracy.
The United States, you know, embargoed and ended up putting restrictions on importation of weapons to the Rhodesians.
The United States caused the collapse and the British abandoned them.
But in that being said, once the curfew went away, violence spiked like 1500%.
And so it's like, that sounds so archaic to people like us.
It's like, it does sound, it does sound crazy.
It doesn't sound crazy to me, but to like to really think about like sirens blaring and then like, you know, Africans can no longer be outside.
It's very foreign.
It's not how we were raised.
However, if you went to a gas station at Lake Worth, which is a city I'm staying in right now, my Airbnb, you know, if you go into Lake Worth and there was no Africans on the streets past 8 p.m., I might actually go to a gas station.
You know what I mean?
And so it's like, what do you want?
Do you want to seem nice to people or do you want to be able to move?
Do you want a functioning society?
And why is it not happening?
It's because what he said, we live in a gay, Jewish, you know, society, which is apparently a good thing, by the way, to everyone else.
But it cares more about the appearance.
Like, well, at least everyone's free.
It's like, but it's unsafe and we're dying.
And it's like, yeah, but it would be mean.
So it's better that you should die and that they should be free than for them to lose their freedom and then for you to not die.
So that your life is not valuable to them, which means they hate you, which means you're occupied by Zionist Jewish people.
timothy gordon
A gay, Jewish, gynecentric, correct, whatever, failed democracy.
Correct.
Yeah, my whole point was just that the real spell in a place like our different places are going to contextualize, you know, the political culture will contextualize solution making, problem solving differently.
But it always needs to start, especially in a place like America or, you know, the Five Eyes, England, Canada, the West.
It needs to start by breaking the spell and just having the conversations, not like you and I were saying at dinner, Elijah, not by saying it like an edge lord, but just saying it because it's normal.
It's normal to talk about statistics and things like that.
It's very white.
It's a very white thing to do.
It's a very Western civilization thing to do.
It'll be like, hmm, look at these interesting crime statistics.
It looks like pretty much all of this one group with a little extra melanin in their skin does all of the violent crimes.
Like something should be done about that.
We can take it and workshop it after that and decide what to do and contextualize it and break it down.
But we need to start having the conversations.
And what we were all told by the last few generations is that it's mean to even crunch those numbers, do that math, begin those conversations.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and I want to read it, but we got a super chat here.
unidentified
Homer Jay Fuentes, let's go.
$50 in the chat.
elijah schaffer
We've shot three full shows today.
Sarah's our second full show.
And I've shot three other shows for gay.
I've had six shows shot.
I've shot six shows today.
So sometimes if you want to know why you're tired, we've been here since 10 a.m.
It's like nine o'clock at night.
You get tired shooting for like, you know, all day.
And you've been here too since the morning.
And Joey, everyone's been here.
Mendoza was here, not mendozing off.
He was here early too.
michael hennessey
He's the Mendozer.
elijah schaffer
He's the Mendoza.
He's the killdozer of the Mendoza report.
No, but he was been here since the morning.
So everyone's tired.
But we love giving you the news.
Homer Jay Fuentez did say prison isn't enough for these criminals.
michael hennessey
Hashtag public hangings.
elijah schaffer
Grape Joey.
All right, let's go.
Okay, so typically now at the show, you know, we're going to do our extra segment.
We call it the slightly offensive segment on locals.
Guys, it's free to join locals at elijahschafer.locals.com.
It's free to join, reminding you guys that this Sunday, I don't know if we're going to have the book club this Sunday because it's a holiday weekend.
So just stay tuned.
You'll find out.
But it's important to realize that we are still reading our book.
Make sure you start reading chapters four, five, and six of where the right went wrong.
Again, if you're the winner of this and you were on the last show, we'll just email you again.
Make sure you know so we can send you a Kindle.
This next week, we're giving away another Kindle.
So, if you want to win another Kindle, I think you might have two weeks actually to read the rest of the book.
I know it seems long doing like a month of a book over two months, but some of you guys need the help to, we'll just make it slow and steady for the first part of the book.
But I think we'll be done probably within like three weeks.
So, four, five, and six, the three chapters.
Read it, send a picture of yourself reading the book.
It doesn't have to be your face.
I know I'm not trying to dox you.
You know, it could just be your hand.
timothy gordon
Yeah, just your address.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, just your address.
Your street.
Check it out.
We are going to go to locals.
We decided that the locals segment is going to be a combo of three different things over time.
It's going to be like just talking about things from the show that we wanted to talk about that maybe we couldn't because of censorship or whatever it is.
It's either, and we're going to take phone calls and stuff from you guys going forward in the future.
We're working on kind of redoing the studio.
We're working on being able to take in phone calls.
And or it's just going to be like what slightly offensive was.
The segment where we get just some funny videos from that I've posted talking about some racial, some stuff that probably wouldn't make it too hot on YouTube because we do love just having those good segments.
But it's kind of like a whole different little like mini show at the end that we just kind of get together and laugh and talk shit.
So go to locals to my guests here today, though, if they want to find you and follow you.
Reminding you that we have a special tomorrow on Catholicism, a one-hour special with Sarah and Timothy tomorrow night at seven.
And the night after that, oh no, sorry, Wednesday night, we have that.
Thursday night, we have an almost serious one-on-one with Timothy talking about patriarchy, the place of men in a home, Christian relationships, marriage, all of that stuff going on.
We're loving the move here.
But Timothy, how can people find you?
How can they follow you before we go over to locals?
timothy gordon
Timothy J. Gordon on YouTube.
That's where I have my show, Rules for Retrogrades.
And find me on Twitter at Timothyology, T-I-M-O-T-H-E-E-O-L-O-G-Y.
Thanks again for having me on for three shows today.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, dude, it's been a lot.
I know you drove down from the north, too.
So I know you're surviving, but hopefully that organic seed oil-free food gave you a little boost.
timothy gordon
It was so tasty.
You got three times the food you ordered.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
I had a minority moment, by the way, just to let you know, I was like, like we go up to order.
It's like a, like, you know, they serve you.
And I tell the lady, she goes, what do you want?
I was like, can I get two trays of the exact same thing?
And she's holding one.
I go, she's just staring at me and go, two trays?
Can you give me two trays of the same thing?
She's like, oh, what?
I was like, can you give me two?
I'm getting two of the exact same thing.
She's like, can I do one?
I was like, can we just do it at the same time?
It would be easier.
She's like, it's easier one.
timothy gordon
I was like, do one twice as much.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
I was like, okay, let me just order 17 items, like mushrooms and everything, put them in there.
And we're doing it.
And then as she's making it to me, the guy's like, dude, I'll just get you to Timothy.
Like, no, I'll just get you and I'll just make yours.
So he's literally ordering the same thing I'm getting.
And then we go to checkout and she hands us three containers of food because she went after he made his, made a duplicate of what she served me because I asked for two.
Even when I said we're ordering together, we'll just order at the same time.
And she like gave it as like, yeah, here's your food.
You're like, you damn it.
The fatigue is so strong.
It's just like, it's crazy, including the fact that my bank mailed my bank card to a wrong address in California.
When I asked him to cancel it, he kept writing, I do not know, sir.
I'd be like, do not know what?
Please cancel the card.
No can do.
And you're going, dude, it's Amex.
And they're like responding in broken English.
I'm like, please, why would you send a card to a random address?
Because, sir, it's address you send.
And you're like, dude, it's all day, every day, moment by moment, interaction by interaction.
I'm just getting tipped away by these people.
You don't live in a first world country anymore, Anon.
You're living in a failed democracy.
Anyway, Sarah.
sarah stock
Yeah, if you want to find my YouTube, it's just my name, Sarah Stock.
I have my show on there, so check it out.
And my socials, it's just Sarah Seastalk on both Instagram and X. Why is someone saying that I'm not Slavic?
elijah schaffer
I'm not, I don't look Slavic at all.
Do you know who looks Slavic?
Jack Bisobic.
Do you know who looks a little Slavic?
Maybe Sarah Stock a little bit.
It could be a little Slav.
sarah stock
But I'm not.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, but you have the Slav eyes a little bit.
Like, do you have like Russian eyes?
sarah stock
Yeah, but I'm not.
I'm just Anglo.
elijah schaffer
I know.
I've always told you you're Anglo, but I'm saying like you do, you could have been, but the Mormons taught you otherwise, right?
sarah stock
Could have been.
elijah schaffer
Speaking of Mormons.
michael hennessey
Oh, Mormon now.
Okay.
Magic underwear.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
michael hennessey
You guys can check me out at Snowflake underscore news.
I'm on Instagram as well as X. Love for you to come check it out.
elijah schaffer
Kai Short was in the chat too.
Want to remind people to check out his new video with Parker?
Is that what it is?
Or who is it?
sarah stock
Jane Withers.
elijah schaffer
Dean Withers.
Isn't that crazy?
Your last name's Withers.
michael mendoza
It's not an anxiety pen.
timothy gordon
It's not an anxiety pen.
sarah stock
He's like, respect the anxiety pens.
Respect the anxiety pen.
timothy gordon
That was wild.
elijah schaffer
That is like actually crazy.
He's like, that's not all.
He's like, oh, my gosh, do I have to ask you to respect it?
You're like, dude, it's just a vape, brother.
michael mendoza
Just like crash out.
timothy gordon
If you're just yelling, it's not a crash out, then it's a crash out.
elijah schaffer
I think I like how like very few people as well.
I had a, I was like kind of laughing because I had put this up.
Look, I put this up that.
Can we like, how do you find the post here?
Like, is this, is this the post?
Well, this last post.
Yeah, here it is.
I put up a picture of me smoking a cigar and I was like, it's my fucking anxiety pen.
It's not a fucking cigar.
You stupid fucking bitch.
And they're like, that's why, justifiable crash out.
It's like, gosh, leave.
unidentified
Oh.
elijah schaffer
And I just thought it was interesting because, where is it?
Oh, yeah, here he is.
Beardson was like, it is a vape pen.
I love nicotine.
I don't have anxiety with the super chat.
But it's true.
It's like, it's like, dude, these guys are.
I hate to say this, by the way, you guys, but you're making him famous.
Like, he does, he gets famous from the hate watch, and he's lucky because it's a really good position.
Him, Destiny, Parker, like being in that position where the, like, the right hates you and Joey Manorino comments BBC in all your photos, like, you're making big bucks off of, like, the young Turks do it too.
It's why Chenko's on all the right-wing shows and Anna Kasparian courts us because the left knows the best way to make money is by going viral on the right wing.
Kyle Kalinsky's been doing it with Tim Poole as well.
Mendoza, do you have anything to share?
unidentified
Just this.
elijah schaffer
All right.
To the rest of you guys watching, we're going to go on a couple minute break here.
We're going to do our last segment on locals only.
Sarah's going to stick around.
Timothy's going to be taking off.
Timothy, thank you so much for coming on, man.
You're not around tomorrow, are you?
timothy gordon
No, we're piecing back out.
What's up today?
elijah schaffer
Well, you'll have to know.
Well, you'll have to come back in a couple months.
We'll just fly down for a day or two and come do a debate with Jay Dyer because I think we could really get you a person too, but the studio should be completely upgraded by then so you can have a buddy and Jay will have his companion and it'll be like because then we can actually go for four hours.
I'm two on two like that.
timothy gordon
Like really by the way.
unidentified
No homo.
timothy gordon
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Two on two.
It's a two man.
timothy gordon
Two on two.
Two men on two men.
Yeah.
No, we've been looking for a good platform to do it and actually rigorous moderation.
elijah schaffer
No, it'll be rigorous.
It's also a good format too because it's like it's the good facility.
You know, we'll be able to get it out on the front page of Rumble.
You know, by then we'll have grown a bit as well.
And then, you know, hopefully you don't get too cucked out by the Ortho Bros who are very, very, they're more than Catholics.
Like become Orthodox, brother.
I like them though.
I love them.
timothy gordon
No, no, no.
Come on.
Good relations with the Wookies.
I have myself with the Ortho Bros.
What they do is they really gang press comments.
They raid the comments and then they make it look like everyone gets ratioed.
So maybe who I should have on my side is Mr. Nicholas J. Fuentes, and then we'll have sort of counter ratioing.
elijah schaffer
I wonder if he, I don't know if he would come out for that.
unidentified
He would do it.
timothy gordon
I'll bet you he would do it.
You should reach out to NJF because we've been looking to do a couple different projects together.
And he knows I'll come with the receipts, the Theo and philosophy receipts.
And I'll bet you he'd be willing to do it.
It would be in person.
elijah schaffer
Is he doing the debate with Dinesh tomorrow?
Was that in person?
timothy gordon
Dinesh was a person.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
michael mendoza
It's remote.
elijah schaffer
That's why I know he has no reason to travel, but it is nice when it's not remote.
It's always nice to have people in a room.
It's just so nice to have people in a room.
timothy gordon
Reach out to NJF.
I'll bet you for that.
He might be willing to do it.
elijah schaffer
It's a possibility.
We'll see.
Well, yeah, I mean, I would.
We'll see what he says.
I'll just wait a month or so after this debate because he doesn't do a lot of things back to back.
So we'll just kind of give him a chance to crush Dinesh.
I think it's going to be a bloodbath.
But Dinesh is also really smart, by the way.
I do like Dinesh, and I like his daughter.
I like his son-in-law.
timothy gordon
She's a nice lady.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, yeah.
They're very nice people.
So I hope everyone's civil.
They will be.
That being said, we're going to take a quick break.
Shout out to my guests and to Sarah.
We'll see you for our last segment.
We have some great videos to go over.
We'll be right back on locals only.
ElijahSchaefer.locals.com.
Click the link in the description if you want to watch.
And also shout out to the locals.
Quick thing here.
Okay, don't send shirtless pictures of me.
And someone said it's fucking go time and then sent, yeah, like look at this.
It's me benching Ben Shapiro.
Okay.
Is that?
Okay.
Thank you.
All right.
That's enough.
That's enough.
Let's go over there.
We'll see you in just a couple of weeks.
timothy gordon
It's go time.
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