May 7, 2025 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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Jordan Peterson EXPOSED as CON ARTIST in HUMILIATING Interview | Guests: AusPill and Sarah Stock
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Sometimes, you have to wonder - are James Lindsay and Jordan Peterson being completely serious? Is anyone falling for the damage control tactics anymore? Possibly - but the decline of The Daily Wire might indicate otherwise.
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It turns out that Jordan Peterson was in this epic interview with James Lindsay, and it sort of reminds me of like when the kids who are never going to get picked for the dodgeball team say, Well, we didn't want to play anyways.
Another example is like when you finally catch the kid in tag, and then right before you tag him, because he's a weak little bitch, he goes, I quit, I'm done.
I'm not playing.
I'm not playing anymore.
I'm not playing anymore.
And it's like, wait, you can't do that.
But they can, and they are.
They're giving up in this fight against the woke right.
Speaking of the CEO or co-founder of the woke right, Ozpil, welcome back to the show.
And thankfully, like, we on the right are glad that this quasi-right-wing party lost because, in theory, this can now create a power vacuum whereby a real one can come through.
So I'm happy with the result.
I know some people won't be, but those engaged in the high theory would be pretty happy with this result.
But yes, the left-wing party did win and some minority groups are very ecstatic about that.
So I'm kind of like a little bit like I'd probably welcomed into Australia.
I almost said India, into Australia and Canada.
That's a key thing.
You don't have to get a visa to get into Canada anymore.
You just don't put on deodorant for two days, skip the shower in the morning.
They go, oh, you must live here.
So that's sort of like that sort of thing.
Actually, it's gotten so bad in Canada.
I just want to skip right to something before I even introduce the next guest today.
But Canada has full-on embraced what's going on in this massive, massive world that we live in, that they put up signs about, you know, trying to be courteous towards fellow Canadians.
I don't know if you guys saw this random post, but they put up a cartoon of an average Australian citizen.
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Let's go ahead and let's talk about this Jordan Peterson interview.
It's really kind of interesting.
So I'll lay the stage here.
So Jordan Peterson has been collapsing, as many would say, along with the entire Daily Wire brand.
And it's not something that we're happy about because in reality, we want a thriving right-wing.
We want a thriving Daily Wire.
We want a thriving Jordan Peterson.
But at the state that we have them, a lot of us are saying, just like we want the conservatives to win in our countries, when you're not conserving anything, maybe we don't care if you fail because maybe it's all part of the plan.
Maybe you all have to fail for somebody who's really right-wing and really conservative to rise up.
That's what young people are saying around the country.
I don't say I agree with that.
I just say that's what they're saying.
So Jordan Peterson did what anybody would do after going on an apology tour, crying on television about anonymous accounts and sort of throwing his reputation under the bus.
He sat down with the only person I know that could save someone's reputation.
I'm talking about none other than the intellectual prowess of a man known as James Lindsay.
And even I had a hard time saying that with a straight face here, to be completely honest.
That was hard to say.
So he sat down with him to talk about the woke right.
And before we even jump into that, you know, that's a really interesting phrase, the woke right.
You know, there have been easier ways to come out of the closet when you were younger.
You know what I mean?
To kiss boys.
And now you just have to do this kind of shit.
It's kind of getting complicated.
It reminds me of like when people do straight with extra steps, right?
They do like, they'll be like, I'll switch into being a woman, and then my wife will switch to being a man, and then we get remarried.
And it's like, so you're just straight with extra steps.
Saying woke right is like just being gay with extra like words that are unnecessary.
I don't know how you feel about that because they'd call you woke right too.
It's like, it's, it's changing and evolving, but the psychopaths failed in like a matter of 12 hours.
Like, he was like, you're a psychopath and you're a rat.
Because like, what happened was his entire, his entire menu and prescription of how to be a better man is to make your bed.
So I woke up, made my bed, and he's like, ah, shoot, he got me.
So then I got him at his own game.
And he's like, well, now you've got to just, you've got to send your money to Israel.
You're like, all right, this is getting complicated.
I'll make my bed, but I don't have any more.
I already sent all my, the government sent all my money to Israel.
I don't have any more money to send.
I know that you've, you're not a young man.
You could be in 10 years if you wanted to, but it is interesting.
Like Jordan Peterson was a bit of a, not a pariah, but like this sort of like an angelic being that we saw as a teacher.
He was like a counselor to a lot of us growing up.
And he held sort of a almost like the level of what a priest might hold as you grow and develop.
He walked us through the tragedy of lies, especially young white men.
He stood as sort of a beacon of light amongst the dysfunction of the world.
And to have him sort of, you know, take money from, you know, a Zionist organization and then use that money to then turn upon the people that he raised up that were his original audience.
It feels less like we're mocking him and more like we're mourning the betrayal.
Like, I don't know if you have anyone like that, maybe SpongeBob or something.
If you're like 16, that's like yo, put adults together yo well, Mike Cernovich actually had a pretty uh good statement on this that I found to be like absolutely hilarious and uh, he said, check this out.
He said I almost didn't go to bed last night.
I was afraid of waking up this morning.
I pulled the pillows over my head, but the kids had to get ready, so I was up.
Now i'm woke, that's well, that's okay.
So like, on one hand, let's also talk about, like you know two, two atheists talking about Lucifer And God.
There's a little bit of irony in that.
You know you have Colin Wright.
This is even sadder.
So you have like, James Lindsay, who's a wannabe Jordan Peterson.
Jordan Peterson isn't even being a good Jordan Peterson.
And then you know Colin Right, do you know him, the biologist guy?
Uh, Colin Wright is not even being a, he's a, he's a protege of James Lindsay right now.
I remember I used to have this old show on on uh, on my old network and um, my co-host invited Colin Wright on and she was like, he's got a phd in biology.
He'll show you up about God that she was literally so happy about it.
This is gonna be so funny.
Like he's gonna own you.
You don't even have a phd.
This is how atheists think.
Right, she was an atheist.
And he comes on and like it was like uh, it was like t-balls, like like hitting, like every time you throw something at me he'd be like, then where did god come from?
Like hey buddy, these are like things they teach you in apologetics 101.
It's like the human mind can't comprehend god because we're we're we're uh, curated by space and time.
We are literally in a universe.
Right, it is a closed system.
So it's like.
It's like asking a fish to understand what it's like that's only been in water, what it's like to fly in the air.
It's like this isn't something that that they could understand or comprehend.
So you're asking for a created being to understand the purpose or understand what created it has a.
Could you ask a car why its purpose is to drive?
No, because it's not designed with the ability to answer that like that's not in the in the middle of its confine.
So you're asking me questions beyond my understanding, thinking you've got me, but in reality, you've done nothing but prove the fact that i'm a limited creature.
Therefore, I must be created because i'm not all knowing.
I could not be god and he's like, well, I mean, but your grandma was a fish.
And you're like, okay, you chinless retard.
Okay, but I mean, I mean this.
So it's like, I don't know what you think about that, but I always found it weird that it's always Atheists.
Not to mention that James Lindsay has said, i'm gonna pretend to be a Christian in order to trick Christians into he literally wrote this on twitter.
It's like when the Pope, when the Pope passes, all of a sudden you have these ideas coming out.
Oh, this would be a great next Pope.
It happens every few months.
Something blows up in the media, and all of a sudden, these atheists who would like prescribed Christ will give an opinion on theology and like religion and morals and ethics.
And by the way, as we talk about that, don't forget that telling the truth actually does have weight.
The reason why these guys are allowed on YouTube, you see why they trend and why they're allowed is because they have, they give no threat to the liberal world order.
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Now, by the way, I brought up the idea of Colin Wright, right?
This is the guy.
This is the other guy that's the main speaker that's talking about, like, it's just so interesting.
The physiognomy, I feel like, that's the guy, excuse me, but you don't have a source.
That's the guy that told, this is the guy that went viral telling, what's his name?
Nick Fuentes, you know, with the tribalism tweet, I choose neither.
You know, when Fuentes was like, oh, you either everyone has to be tribal or no one can be.
And he's like, I choose no one can be.
And it's like, yeah, well, you're also a pussy that you sound like a liberal.
It's like, I want a world where everyone loves each other.
If you believe in peace during a major war, you're a pussy because we all want peace to happen, but it's like, I'm a pacifist.
I'm a Quaker.
It's like, well, you're no good for the fight.
Like, you've got to join the war.
You've got to fight for your people.
And you ever notice, too, that even the wars, I watched a recent movie about World War II where like they glorified this young guy who like didn't fight.
They always do this.
They glorify people who chose not to fight, who like were against the war, wanted to escape with their family.
And it's like, they always glorify young men who didn't want to fight.
There are some movies that don't, but there's a lot of this like, they fall in love and they want to chase the woman instead of fight.
Why does it feel like we're listening to Megan Merkel being like interviewed on Netflix, being like, so when did the Royal Family start to affect your personal life?
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It's like, you know, I just didn't think about that.
I feel like we're watching a literal libtard cry about things.
Like, this is why I'm saying he's a con artist to kind of give it.
We will talk about Shiloh Hendricks in a little bit and how it relates to this.
But the reason why I say he's a con artist is because what they're showing is this thing called word salading.
So they're like, you're getting trolled.
They're like, so you feel like you're tormented?
It's like, that's a form of sadism.
It's like, no, you're doing what black people do when they act like black people.
They get called the N-word for acting like it.
And then they're like mad at you for using the N-word.
They're not mad at themselves for acting like the N-word.
Or also when somebody makes really shitty rap music on SoundCloud and then you just say, hey, man, just because you got tattoos on your face that prove that your parents might have neglected you as a child doesn't mean that you know how to make good music.
That's it's not sad boy music.
It's called bad music.
And then they're like, bro, don't listen to the haters.
The haters just are trying to take me down.
No, it's called criticism.
Valid criticism.
And you're very bad at what you do.
And maybe you should listen.
So with James, it's like, we're saying we're laughing at you not to torment you.
It's because what you're saying is comical.
It's actually funny.
And it's not funny because you're trying to be.
It's funny because you yourself are a joke.
And then it's like, they're doing it to torment me.
No, no, we're just, we're trying to help you, bud.
You know what I mean?
Put down the cheese whiz.
You know what I mean?
At night, put down the cheese whiz.
Look at him.
It's he's gotten he went up to like a 52R in a suit size.
When I met him and knew him, he was probably like a 42 or 40.
I mean, he's gone up like maybe five or six suit sizes.
And that's what I mean.
It's not like he's, he's not just like, that's just like his, his, uh, his wit has gone big.
He's gained a lot of weight.
And that is a man who stress eats.
And it's like, you can't, you can't let it get to you.
You can't let the internet get to you.
I've told you that.
You know that.
It was kind of a lot the first time that, you know, you know, they were on you.
And most of the time, he attacks other people as well, where he gets on the comments saying things about the woke right, using different kinds of language against people.
So, sad to see his feelings are getting hurt.
I really don't care.
I've received death threats as well on my page, so it kind of died down.
I don't get him as much.
Sure, I'll get more now that I'm working with you.
I hate to use this word so glibly, but what I refer to sort of as a bookmark as elite MAGA or the more who's who of the conservative movement seems entirely captured by this as well.
And they also became upset, saw me as a turncoat and a traitor against the movement.
So not only did he put a griper frog at the front of his thumbnail, like, we're not going to name any names, but we're going to talk about a country.
And like the thumbnail is like an Indian flag.
And you're like, oh, I wonder what the podcast is about.
But also, that's what I think we know he's thinking about Nick Fuentes, first of all, as the primary.
We know that he's thinking about Candace Owens as the primary and anyone in that sphere.
Obviously, that's why I don't know if I don't think he was afraid because of Nick or afraid because of Candace or both because I know like there's NDA issues.
And every time he brings up anyone in the right, he gets spit roast or like pit roasted.
I was just going to say he probably is like, I don't want to be platforming them because people are going to go look them up and then they'll actually hear their ideas and then they might agree with them and not me.
Like I had a viral tweet that went viral and I said, all of Con Inc. is on total panic mode.
I sometimes get surprised how viral these tweets go, but apparently people are thinking this.
It's like, it's like they're in full panic mode because with all the size of their network and all the hundreds of millions of dollars that they have behind them, they were unable to control the Shiloh Hendrix narrative.
So they're panicking because it's like they really tried to like use the woke right.
It was like a Yu-Gi-Oh card.
Like woke right and racist.
And then Cardinal Anthony's the same.
And they give all their like, all their cards.
And it was like, everyone's like, actually, no.
You know, white consciousness is growing and people are understanding that, you know, if we don't defend ourselves, then we're going to die.
I think that, you know, there ends up being a little bit of a, they're in panic mode because they're holding on by the teeth of their dying boomer Facebook audience.
Well, I had to bring it up again, but like, you know, it reminds me of the Charlie Kirk thing.
Like, the reason I feel like they don't engage with these ideas, even though Kirk professes to like, he says in his debate with Gavin Newsom, he said, well, the strength of the right wing is that we debate each other.
And I feel like the reason that isn't true, at least in Jordan's case with Nick and Charlie's case with Nick again, I mean, everyone with Nick, is that Nick's ideas are, yeah, actually more attractive.
Like once people hear them, that is.
And I think there's an argument now where Nick and Jordan's popularity are almost level, I would say.
Maybe not, at least in the right wing sphere.
And so his avoidance of this debate is more so that he really, he can't debate it.
Like these ideas are, again, like so much more attractive.
You don't need to use this sort of like philosopher's saloon language to try and work your way around it and like treat the Bible as an analogy.
Like people can just be more factual and grounded.
And that is a stronger argument always, if it's grounded in something that is more factually true.
And so I think he's hesitant to debate.
He will try and use this excuse not to want to platform anyone.
I was going to bring up something about James Lindsay.
He's crying in this video saying that people are constantly attacking him, but he is also constantly attacking everyone for the slightest thing that they do.
I mean, Matt Walsh took Matt Walsh's approach on the Shiloh thing wasn't even about like white tribalism or anything like that.
He was just saying this is like a free speech issue and saying that whatever, like we don't want to, we want to disincentivize cancel culture.
That was his whole argument.
And James Lindsey just starts going after him and saying he's an evil person and all this stuff.
And it's like, yeah, maybe that's why you have all these enemies, James Lindsay, because you're going after everyone on the right for any little thing that they disagree with you on.
Um, you know, him and I uh hung out with some people from a sex cult, you know, for a while, Nyxium, which was a cult of uh the female orgasm that he got in trouble for.
Yeah, so it was like her girlfriend or whatever, um, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And um, the problem was, it's like I was smart and I was like backstage, like, yo, I'm not going to take pictures with like the members of the vaginal orgasmic sex cult because that's pretty like you know, it's probably not a good idea to be like in a room privately with the sex cult, you know?
And uh, James thought it was a good idea because there was, it was a pretty girl he was around, they were very pretty, and um, that's how they get you.
And he was like, Oh, pretty girls, I guess I put up a picture with pretty girls or whatever.
So, he puts up a picture with a girl from a female orgasm sex cult because he like wanted, he like didn't connect the two and like didn't know they were from that, I think.
And then he put it up, and everyone's like, James, and he's basically never lived that down.
Um, and so since then, he's been trying to recover.
So, then what he did to recover from that is he started doing this, like, shilling for Israel and go against the woke to try to recover from the idea of being blamed as being a part of an orgasmic sex cult, which was way cooler than being a shill for Israel.
Like, I could dive with that and say, Hey, that doesn't even exist, you know, there is no female orgasm, so enjoy your life.
But it was a big, it was a big scandal.
It was a no, it's actually a big scandal.
You don't understand.
Look up, like, Google it.
Everything's not a joke.
I'm not even being vulgar.
I'm not being nasty.
This was a very, very, very serious thing.
And for like about a year of his life, everybody commented, Oh, you're a part of this cult.
You're a part of Nexium, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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So I want to play one more thing here from these guys.
So on top of that, would they put a warning on this?
A peel this warning?
Like, it's so funny that on X, the daily life in our country gets a warning put on it, but it's like, that's what we have to live with.
And if you don't like this, you're woke right.
Look at this.
is just like in a subway behavior is considered against x terms of service but this is like what you see in la Like this is just also, it's just a pigeon he's going to eat.
But yeah, so he's like, he's like killed a pigeon, which there's so much going wrong with this.
But here's what's funny.
Normally, like 50 years ago, you'd be like, where is this in South Africa?
But now you're like, that could be Sydney.
That could be Portugal.
That could be London.
And you'd have to actually look not by what's happening, but by the color of the seats, right?
Like, you know, there's a day and age where you'd see like some black guy doing something crazy and you'd be like, that's obviously not anywhere I would know.
But now it could be your backyard and you'd only be like, no, those seats are from actually from Geneva.
You know, it's a little too dirty for that.
It's got to be America, right?
Because it looks like so shitty inside.
It's got to be.
We're the only ones with public transportation that bad.
Then we're going to switch a little bit into the Shiloh Hendrix, some N-word stuff, which I think is, I just went premature into it.
But this is actually my favorite clip from the whole interview where James Lindsay says, not only is the word based bad, but it actually comes from our use of cocaine, which to be true.
But there's nothing about a guy in fetish gear at a parade in front of children, for example, that's challenging the norms of a repressive sexual society that thinks that, you know, it should be procreative, heterosexual sex only.
That's an excuse.
It's pretext.
What they're after is the norms that hold regular society together.
And my argument is that the woke right does the same thing.
They have a cult of transgression too.
They sometimes call it being based, but that's a completely bad word for what they're trying to describe because based should mean based in reality.
Although the origin of the term is slaying for being free-based on cocaine, so they're out of their minds, right?
It's just funny how this lines up.
But what do they do?
Okay, so the left has told us, the far left has told us, you can't be racist.
Racist is worse.
Everybody's a racist.
And of course, they completely made degenerate the concept of racism, the word racism, the accusation, the sky is racist, going for a hike is racist.
But they aren't trying to reclaim and say, okay, no, wait, racism's bad.
We don't want to be racist.
And nobody should be racist.
And the left completely ruined it.
So we need to reclaim the term and have this healthy societal norm about discrimination and bigotry.
What they're doing instead is saying it's time for us to be a little bit racist.
The left said, don't be racist.
So we're going to be really racist.
And we're going to do it in order to make, you know, to own the libs, as they sometimes phrase the thing, right?
But really, it's to reject what culture is the pretext.
They're not acting racist or blaming Jews for everything going wrong in society or, you know, getting further and further into the racial expression or the white racial consciousness or whatever, the white supremacy or even white nationalism in order to challenge the left.
But I was going to say, what he's saying here is that this is what's coming down to.
He's defining the woke right as people who are challenging the norms, not challenging truth.
We're not fighting the truth.
We're fighting what is norm.
Now, normal doesn't mean true.
Normal could be very bad.
An example of this is abortion, right?
I get it.
People fuck.
People have kids out of wedlock.
It happens.
But you don't then cover up sin with another sin, right?
It's very normal to do that, but it's not righteous.
It's not right.
There's a lot of normalcy too.
Like there's people to get on and to defend Israel.
That's not, it's a normal thing to do, but it's not a good thing to do.
It's not right.
It's not true.
So he says they're challenging the norms, which is the gay liberal world order that he defends.
And this is why they're super against what?
Tribalism of white people being collectivized, but he's not against two atheists tribalizing and coming together, him and Jordan, and deciding that, you know, homosexuality is okay.
Promiscuity is not.
Abortion is okay in a limited order.
They have their own, you know, limited liberal worldview and they can come together and gatekeep.
Like he even said, we're giving them the term woke right in the last clip to give them a label so that it causes them not to being able to get ahead as much, right?
So he said, like, it puts a label and dejects them from the conversation.
Not only is he admitted that, but what he's saying is like, in the end, all I hear, yap, We just don't want white people to collectivize.
That's all you hear from anyone.
It's like white people collectivizing bad.
Anything else, good.
And I think it's because what they really are, they're not a real right wing.
They're a center left opposition party that is intentionally instilled to make us think like we have representation, but their whole goal is never to defeat the left.
And that's why they allow them to win sometimes.
Their whole goal is to prevent any real right-wing nationalist party from ever gaining root.
Hence, even AFD, which is still a little liberal, might even be outlawed, right?
Even though they're not perfect, I'm just saying real nationalism will be outlawed.
I don't know if you agree with that, but that's why even the liberals lost in Australia because they're not a real right-wing party.
Like, these guys want to analyze the etymology of all these words.
But like, again, they would, in like how it's actually presented, would be left-wing.
Like, spiritually, the left and the right differ on their views of equality and inequality.
And like a right-wing would posit that, you know, a certain group has an identity which needs to be asserted against others.
The left wing would say, well, we're all equal, so there's no identities, et cetera.
So these guys in trying to defend this, like, what do they even call it?
Like the normal, the moderate, the sinner, they are literally leftists by denying the group identity to which I mean every group except whites have and informs their politics.
Like these guys are actual leftists and they want to overanalyze the word based.
Like they won't acknowledge the actual differences between men and women.
They'll only go so far as to say it's biological we have different genitalia, but it's so much deeper than that.
That's not what it is.
Like we're supposed to have different roles in society too.
And someone like James Lindsay thinks it's like wrong to try to criticize feminist ideology because that's just you know too I guess like far right for him or whatever.
But it's like, yeah, that's because you're a liberal and your ideology comes from leftism.
It's just like a softer, a little bit more palatable version of it.
So we thought they were conservative, but that's where the big tent came up with that anybody who challenges hyper-progressivism now is called conservative, which even like someone like myself, who's, if anyone knows me, I'm not a conservative person.
I've never claimed I was.
People always like try to out me like that.
Like, you know, well, I'm just not even a conservative.
You're like, how many times do I have to say it on my damn show?
I'm not a conservative.
But why?
I also was challenging woke.
I was never liberal, but I'm like, I'd be closer to like a moral conscious version of libertarianism, probably.
I'm more like an authoritarian, like, you know, with a libertarian sort of mindset, but an authoritarian political system.
Like, that's kind of like my place.
But it's like, it's like people will label you now forever as being conservative.
Well, they want you to conform to one and they want it.
They're like sports teams, the Democrats and the Republicans.
And the reason that they're freaking out and you're having this whole crazy like tour that they're doing to try to come up with all this different language and work together is they want us to stay on the plantation, pretty much.
They don't want free thinkers.
They want us to continue to follow this bullshit narrative that they have and keep the control over us.
So we need to continue asking questions and I'll wear whatever, you know, whatever name they want to call me, fine.
I mean, he is basically describing the strategy of like the dissident right, but we used to just call that, like, why not?
Why don't they just call it like the dissident right?
Because what he's describing is like, yeah, this is like the right wing.
They're not going to waste their time challenging leftism, but they're going to challenge the existing like right wing establishment and try to move them further to the right.
I fully acknowledge I do try to do that.
I have no problem admitting that because I just see a lot of problems with the right-wing establishment.
But it's just like, okay, so, but like, why do you have a problem with that?
But what I was going to say is Mike was like, what happened is, the reason why these guys brought up this woke right stuff is that I watched this thing under, I read some of James Lindsay's comments.
And people like Abby Libby or these random, whatever they're called, like left toy tards in the right wing were writing things like this.
Like, I don't even know where the woke right came from.
It's like they grew like mold.
And you see a lot of comments going, it's like spiders out of a drain in a horror movie.
I don't even know how where they climbed out from.
Like, and the people literally saying the same thing.
It's like lifting a log and finding, finding a lizard.
Like they just, they apparently they were there.
But Mike Cernovich responded to one of those comments and said, no, you guys don't remember, which I do, that the people that are the woke right now who got Trump originally elected.
But then in 2017, after he got elected, the social media companies clamped down.
Again, in 2019 as well, they clamped down.
We've talked about it.
We won't go into detail on this show how Ben Shapiro manipulated, worked with Wajecki and Zuckerberg, and they got the investment from their billionaire and took over the populist right websites and redirected them to their website.
But what it was, he goes, they didn't have any competition for the last like 10 years.
They've been, it's been anyone who's right wing has to be liberal-ish, pro-Israel.
That's what it was.
The only reason why I had a career, Candace had a career, any of us had a career, was because what?
We played by, played the rules.
Anyone who didn't play the rules, it was called the alt-right pipeline was wiped out effectively.
To this day, same thing.
In other countries, Joel Davis, Blair Cottrell, you know, deleted, deleted, deleted.
Thomas Sewell, you get deleted, deleted.
So they think that we don't exist because like liberals, you know, when you walk into New York with a MAGA hat, they're so inundated and insulated that they're like, what are people like you exist?
You go, yeah, we're more than half the country.
But the right wing's the same way where they're like, where'd all these people come from?
Like all it is now is that thanks to X, really, which is why I can never hate Elon despite not trusting him, is because now that we're able to speak and now that we have Rumble and X, we're basically able to reorganize publicly and they don't realize that we have been the right wing and they were literally the tool of the devil on the left wing to present a fake version of ourselves.
And these are the people like James Lindsey and Jordan Peterson.
Jordan Peterson's entire career, like his number one thing was promoting free speech.
And now it's like, well, this is what happens.
When you have free speech, you actually have to engage with and hear ideas that might offend you or that you don't agree with.
And probably a lot of trolls too.
But that's actually a benefit because now we actually have, it's an actual intellectual battle.
Like they were just suppressing actual free speech before.
And now all of a sudden he's complaining about the results of free speech and complaining about these anonymous accounts and all the effects of that and everything.
Or they're still trying to gather their thoughts, get figure out the system, figure everything out.
They're not willing to debate a Candace.
They're not willing to debate a Nick as much as we want them to.
Because the problem is once you get people that are educated on the situations to confront them, it's no more calling, just calling names isn't going to work because they're going to break them down.
Jordan Peterson wouldn't be able to keep up with it.
That's why Charlie Kirk, like when you, Ozpil, when you hit him with the question, you kind of got him to do a meltdown, you know, about the Christians, you know.
Like, I mean, I don't want to drag it, but I will have people, I mean, people are still making videos on it.
I should send one through.
You can review another episode that it's still permeating on the internet and people are still reacting to it.
But what these leftists say is that, wait, wait, Charlie Kirk actually agreed with Ozpil in the end because he wrote that apologetic essay and sort of said, oh, he misheard the question.
It's all a big misunderstanding.
Of course, America wouldn't be America if it was 90% Indian.
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I want to ask him why, like, did he explain why not?
They threw it and he got thrown under the bus, which was nice through the whole H-1B crap that they tried pumping.
Elon as well said he would die on that hill.
But just like Charlie Kirk, which you ran into, is that later on he apologized because of the backlash.
A lot of times these people think that they can say whatever they want, that we're going to follow them blindly and just continue to believe the bullshit, but we're not.
And then once we go ahead and we push back, we give that kickback.
That's when you have Elon coming out saying, you know, about the H-1Bs.
He started to change his stance a little bit.
Same thing with Charlie Kirk.
Charlie Kirk didn't agree fully with probably what you said because he would prefer it not to be America this way.
So it was his way of trying to save face so this way he could be like, yeah, America first, but it's all bullshit.
Most of these people don't care about America.
They rather import all these illegals and just overflood us.
So yeah, and like I feel like people like James Lindsey are trying to say that we're just like annoying anonymous trolls or whatever, but it's like, well, clearly the woke right won on the H-1B issue, did we not?
There's a hater that I have from SoundCloud that always is no, I'm saying there's a hater that I have that is like kind of retarded, but he's actually right all the time.
He's like, you know, you think you have all this influence, but you don't have influence because you're just, you just get likes and clicks.
He's right in the fact that, yeah, I don't actually have influence, but he's wrong in the fact that I think that I do.
I think that people don't realize that a lot of battles are allowed to be won on the internet for the sake of that the policies they put forth don't matter.
Like they'll do a poll, you know, in Ireland to see if people won an immigrant center in their city.
There was a small town in Ireland that was 96% or 98% Irish.
They had a vote in the town where they won an immigrant center.
And just 10 years later, I think it was seven years later, the town is only 34% Irish now.
And they put the center in anyways, despite the vote.
So that's kind of what the internet is: where it's like, well, we all won.
It's like, well, you won public opinion, but you didn't really change what they're going to do.
They're going to do what they're going to do.
So democracies are basically governments making you have the illusion that you're getting something done because you have a protest or vote about it, but they just do what they want anyways, secretly, or they do it in your face, right?
Is it we vote against what remember that the prop eight, we voted against gay marriage, and then 2012, they just put it in place.
I don't think I'm not talking about like we won that issue, like we're not going to get more mass immigration to America because of an internet battle, but I guess I mean more in the whole like battle of ideas and the conservative movement.
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Well, Melanie Mac, you know, I have nothing against her.
I'm not, this isn't like a shit talk, Melanie Mac, but it is a little, it is a little cringe to me.
Not really that she would do something for attention because that's what women do.
But I know that's crazy.
But it's weird to me seeing guys in the comments.
It's like the 50th time she said faggot today.
And you're like, say it again.
And tell me what color underwear you're wearing too.
And you're like, okay, this is getting very, you know, this is just, is this a sexual thing?
I don't know what it is, but it's like, you know, but it's it, but the faggot thing, I don't, I don't get it.
But the reason why the nigga thing, the reason why I think it's also different too is like, I probably wouldn't drop a lot of the hard R on here as well.
Also reminding you, Australians can't say the hard R. I'm not joking.
I think like we just introduced like a raft of new hate speech legislation.
I mean, there already is anti-vilification legislation, but in my state, they I think it activates on like September, bro.
It is so sweeping.
So it's, it dictates basically that if a reasonable member of a group, and that group is religious, ethnic, sexual, even political, if a reasonable member of a group is offended, like sexual ethnic, like a Pakistani rapist.
Yeah, okay, sure.
Like, if a reasonable member of that group, which again, political, ethnic, religious, blah, blah, blah, is a reasonable person is offended.
It constitutes hate speech.
So, I mean, that word obviously would currently constitute it, but it could very soon be maybe by current estimations, criticizing migration could constitute hate speech because reasonable members of diverse communities, you know, you're restricting the flow of their co-ethnics into your country.
Well, I'm just saying not right now, but I mean, we do, we do have some international stuff, at least some like basic promotion.
I mean, like, you know, maybe get a badge on X or something and kind of like build organically.
Like Keith Woods is doing the same thing, you know?
So it's like, because it's good to be a part of an organization, at least public facing, because it's harder to take you out because we can actually talk to you.
The one thing I've been trying to push for is a media pass because I go cover like rallies and protests and the police can just give you a move on order in Australia.
You get a move on order.
If a group is acting violent towards you, they like will arrest you.
So basically, there's no such thing as an actual media pass in any country in the world at all that is universally understood.
Basically, what it is is because Rebel also doesn't really have original news.
You have to show, like, basically, what we'd have to do is you need to have in any country, in Western countries, it's like the IACC or whatever, but you have to have five original articles that you wrote that are original investigations.
So, like, we'd have to work on it that have to be published.
And so, you have to have what's called like backlinks.
And then, those links, we will have to cross-publish them, which I could do on some other publications I work with.
So, then you have to be on three publications.
And then you also have to have, or a certain amount of hours of air.
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I'm sure our listeners are going to get no, no, I'm telling people how to get a media pass.
No, no, this is like really important because what it is is people say they think that they can't get it, but it's like they don't realize it.
Like, the same reason why, if like, how did I get verified on X before it was possible?
The reason why is because you had to have five proofs that you were on something that either a show with an audience over a million, a publication that was accepted by the international journalism court.
But, like, there was a bunch of things, and so you could get it, but conservatives always go, oh, we're not in the club, we can't get it.
And you go, you can, but you got to play the fucking rules, buddy.
Someone said, Also, but they want to fuck you too.
They were saying, I that's the same person.
But hopefully, it's a girl.
So, let's hope.
Because, do you know what's the weirdest?
Because you were saying, Who was saying that?
Uh, it was uh Sam that was saying when he found out that like 40% of our audience is female that threw him off, and then also, even weirder, um, even weirder in our audience, uh, was that like MAGA, what's the transni or cross-dressing MAGA person?
No, the one Alex Jones is in love with MAGA, yeah, MAGA, yeah, you know what I'm talking about, Lady MAGA, yeah, like Lady MAGA, like, like, I don't, I haven't DM'd back, but like, Lady MAGA is like a white nationalist and like supports the show, and you're like, What the hell?
That's an interesting you're talking about, debates.
Why don't you have Lady MAGA on with like somebody that's like a Groyper and like and have a few people on about like the real like who can be in the real right wing?
The head of the Australian intelligence services, Mike Burgess, there's this like term he has where it's like, um, because everything's so weird now, like, even the left and the right.
I mean, we use these terms here today, they're so blurred now because you have these, like he calls them mixed, it's like mixed and diverse ideologies.
Because in Australia, we had this thing where it was like an Islamic guy who was reading like left-wing stuff, but he was right-wing.
Like, it was just and so now it's like you can't even prescribe people as right or left-wing, especially as like an intelligence agency.
You just like you have to give a dossier to explain like how they even came to these views, which I find like really funny.
So, that's why you get these like weird, like, hodgepodge, okay, like borrowing from the left and they're right-wing, but they're also a moderate.
Jordan Peterson, you know, yeah, Juden Peterstein disavowed, disabled.
Uh, so but by the way, so jokes aside on the on the n-word thing here, um, some of the stuff that went on uh with this Lily Gaddis, I think we have it in here, right?
Um, wow, this is a really we have a really good writer.
I'm just like actually retarded.
So, let me bring this up.
Um, so Lily Gaddis went on to Pierce Morgan and she went to defend her use of the uh n-word while talking about Shiloh Hendrix.
And I want you to pay attention to something dishonest that Pierce Morgan does, which the British often do, is they avoid talking about the real question and instead he goes to attacking um Lily.
So I don't want to give any criticisms first.
I want us to watch this and then we'll talk about what she did well.
And then I'm going to give her some advice.
And I hope that Lily takes it because I did, I did DM her and said, good job, and you know, I did her too.
Yeah, but if you use the N-word repeatedly, you are a racist, are you?
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Sure, I'll embrace that.
If that means forwarding, you know, helping white people achieve freedom of speech, real freedom of speech, which by the way, I mean, Shiloh Hendrix is being attacked on all fronts.
They're trying to bring legal charges against her.
They're trying to get her children taken away.
So you were saying that Carmelo Anthony, it doesn't matter that that's a different thing.
Well, actually, I think you've moved it on in this debate very quickly to your own racism, which explains why you've supported her in public and why you've got all these views.
You see no problem with a woman shrieking the N-word repeatedly because you yourself are a despicable racist and you've just proudly admitted that with a smug grin on your face, which is pretty horrifying, actually, for most people to have to watch.
Like, this is actually cut out of a clip where she later clarifies that I'm racist, meaning that I have a preference.
I don't prefer to live around black people.
And you say that I'm wrong, that I don't want to live around black people rather than asking why don't I want to and how do they behave?
And I think that's kind of where the conversation's at.
Nobody's saying whether we should be calling black five-year-olds the N-word.
And that's never been the conversation.
The conversation is, why are you mad at people for calling black people mean names but not calling out the black bad behavior, which is statistically significant?
And that deflection, again, to blame the white person is kind of what the main problem is in all of this.
It's like, well, you're a bad person for being racist.
Yeah, but ask me why I am.
If you think racism is taught, not you're not born with it, then why are we all agreeing with the lesson?
Like, well, you know what I mean?
It's like, you know, you gotta, it's like, oh, you know, kids don't naturally behave.
You have to teach them to behave.
Yeah, but is that bad?
Like, you said it's taught, but you didn't say that it's bad to teach your kids.
It's actually a safety measure to teach them to understand the difference between races.
China tells their people to be careful in London, particularly around East Asian or yeah, Northeast Asian and black people.
So they say if you're around Indians and black people, you might get mugged, you might get raped.
Be very careful.
And that's a racial noticing because, but if you go to London, then what do the ads do against sexual assault?
It's always a white guy, like, hey, and it's like a black girl.
I'm going to touch your pussy.
And you're like, I've never seen that in my life.
I've never seen a white guy hit on a black girl, let alone talk like that.
Like, I think it was like, it was like your Nina or something very British.
And I was like, a black guy, I mean, a white guy, a chad, walked up to a black girl, talked about her genitals, and then said, I'm going to grab those in front of a bunch of Pakistanis and Indians.
And they stepped in to stop him.
I was like, I was like, I don't think this has ever happened even in a dream, a fever dream.
You're from Canada.
Is that what you have a lot of white guys harassing you on the street and Indians being like, excuse me, sorry, you cannot do this in my country.
They, you know, one thing you can see is anytime you watch the videos in India, they always have where women are walking down the streets, where they're being groped, where they're being grabbed.
Over there, they say it's more of the woman's fault and it's become a culture of what they do.
And then when you have arguments here, like Pierce, what he's saying over and over is, well, you're racist.
Do you use that word?
Because he's not allowing the conversation to go any further.
He's boxing it in.
He wants her to feel guilty for the words that she's saying.
And a lot of times that's the only ammunition that they have.
They can't battle the talking points, as Elijah's mentioning, bringing up the statistics, bringing up how there is a problem with the culture that is out of control.
So instead, they're like, oh, feel guilty about yourself.
Oh, feel ashamed.
But the problem is they've been using these bullshit names for so long now that's not even working anymore.
And what you're seeing is more people come out and who are against it because they're like, no, listen, we really do have a problem here.
Women are being raped.
We have crazy people coming in and committing crimes.
And the statistics are just hidden all the time.
And they just want to hide the problem instead of actually acknowledging it and fixing the country.
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A little bit like a redneck, but I would say like a little more of like we might, the guys who like go dirt biking and glamus would be more our version.
They like they like to go because rednecks are a little more like you're like you're actually like we that means like addicted to meth and like you're retarded, you know, but like you're basically but bogans are just your rub.
But bogan's like a bit more elevated because they will like accept it as a term and like they're probably there's probably still drive like I mean a bogan might have like a quarter million dollar SUV.
I mean, the people who legislate some of this stuff are often the ones who live in the nicest areas.
Like, even the term redneck, I mean, I wrote some effort posts, like the only one I've ever made ages ago was about the term redneck.
And it's like, well, why are you know, why is there a stereotype of poor people being racist?
And you look into it because leftists will call people rednecks or you're just, you know, racist redneck.
Well, rednecks are the ones who bear the brunt of mass immigration.
They were the first to compete with immigrant labor, with immigrants for housing, because they're in lower socioeconomic communities, which in America's context, especially with illegal immigration, is lower economic migrants with little social mobility.
So it's like the people who first bore the brunt of migration were labeled racist with a redneck and that became a stereotype.
But now you're seeing like, I even mentioned this the other day, like you're seeing blue collar with the H-1B debacle.
Like professionals say, especially in computer science, people are like, dude.
My work prospects are destroyed because you just imported people to do the job for 10 times less pay than me.
Tech industry, like people who are extremely smart, extremely successful, went to good schools, and then they're expecting to get a job in a tech industry.
And then it's like an Indian guy becomes a manager and then just kicks all the white people out and just hires Indian H-1Bs.
But I mean, that's fundamentally like immigration is a class issue, which is funny because you had the leftists of the so-called proletariat working class supporters will defend the one policy that is used as a tool of wealth extraction, which is used to create people like rednecks who are forced to try and defend their class.
And slowly it's moving up the scale until you see higher and higher people having to defend themselves from what is this.
They're like, don't blame the immigrants, blame the corporations.
It's like, I mean, we kind of are like, we're not necessarily like blaming immigrants for coming here because it's like, I mean, I would want to come here too.
There's that one guy in the UK, I forget his name, but he's like an ex-trader now turns like anti-racist.
And he's like, yeah, don't blame immigration, blame landlords, blame property developers, blame like the top echelon society.
But then you look at the top echelon in a society.
And in Australia's case, Harry Triguboff, the richest man in Australia, who is a property developer, his comments, the other day, he released one where he's like, oh, Australia needs more migrants.
And as a property developer, it's obviously in his benefit.
He needs more workers.
So it is, you know, I don't want to use Marxist dialects here, but it is a class issue.
No, but they don't have to live around them, right?
So like, I don't, I don't have to personally live around people that I don't want to.
And that's the privilege that I have of my life, right?
It's again, this privilege sounds like a crazy word, but it's true.
It's like the privilege of working hard and smart and a little bit of luck and being in a position where I can live where I want to away from certain people.
However, there is a level where I still have to interact with them because you go to the store, you go around, you mingle.
And I still don't think that there's a benefit long term.
It's called greed.
And a lot of people care less about the ethos of their country, less about the actual makeup of their society than they do about what?
About getting rich now, but having a life now.
And I think about this a lot being in media because people always ask me, do you regret this new, like being, as they would call it, cocaine-based, right?
Because I got good cocaine and became base.
It's like, well, yeah, because sometimes I sit there and I'm like, man, you know, I don't think everyone knows, but it's like, I had such a few offers when I decided to come back from media people, including an investor in Australia, that were like, look, we'll give you the money that you want.
You know, you can basically talk about most of what you want, a little bit like maybe Matt Walsh or something like that.
But you just really like need to lay low on the Israel stuff.
And you probably need to be a little bit less divisive on your social issues.
And basically, like, you just need to be not very effective, but you'll be wealthy and be relaxed.
And so I see people like Benny Johnson or people.
I'm like, you know, in the end, they're able to go to the steakhouses, pay for people, be rich, you know, and it's probably really fun.
Getting $100,000 a week, they were from Russia, you know, from tenant media.
That's kind of, it's good money.
$400,000 a month is pretty good, right?
It's not bad.
So they got millions of dollars.
And I do sometimes sit there going, man, all I like, would it really have hurt anybody?
Like, it's like, I could have just been that guy that occasionally, like, you know, like threw out some zingers like Matt.
Like, actually, here's a based episode every once in a while and just sat in a pile of cash.
But then I ask myself, it's like, could I have lived with myself?
It's like I struggled at Blaze every single day.
Like, just like every time I went to a meeting and they'd be like, tone it down, and then you'd be toning it down.
You'd just be like, I fucking hate this.
Like, I hate myself.
Like, I, I, I'd rather hate myself like I do now for other reasons than for that.
Yeah, I also just think, like, come on, like, if you have a calling to go into politics, go into political media, like, there's no point in doing it unless you're going to actually like speak the truth.
And like, what's why would you want to be a political commentator and just like repeat things that you don't even agree with?
The whole point, it's well, this is actually, I'm going to, I'm going to actually shoot this down, which is, as your boss, I'm going to tell you this too.
It's like Glenn Beck used to always tell me, you know, you're, you're only as, you're only as effective as your market value.
So it's like, oh, well, Nick Fuentes says this, yeah, but he's found a way to raise a lot of money.
And he's a very well-off guy by a different model, which is like a donor model, right?
Which is a little bit like a radical politician.
So he has a different method, but he's still very wealthy.
Like he's, you know, got investment.
He owns property, whatever.
He's a very wealthy guy, right?
So, you know, people be like, well, he's very base.
And he is.
And I'm not giving this his credit, but he's not retarded because there's a lot of people saying the same things he's saying.
They're not effective because he's figured out how to turn it into a market value, right?
He's made money.
He has a team.
He hires people.
And people respect him not because of just what he's saying, but because he's found a way to reach an audience and do that.
I'm not going to shit on anyone by name, but there's a lot of people who have, you know, similar thoughts.
And they're just like, you know, just saying the N-word and kikes and stuff like that.
And then they don't know why no one wants to listen to them.
It's like, well, even Nick Fuentes, if you listen to him, he doesn't even really, he doesn't really call people kikes and he doesn't really use the n-word that much outside of a comedic, you know, level.
Like a white guy would be like, yo, my nigga, what's up?
Like he just kind of says that.
And, you know, he's more presenting, you know, he's more poised in the public eye to the left as this, you know, corrupted white supremacist or whatever that's stupid.
But he's actually a really genius business guy.
And I've talked to him.
He's really calculated.
He's got a very organized team, like a structure of generals.
Like my point being is it's like, like people always ask, it's like, oh, yeah, why are you the way you are?
It's like, we still have a business model.
We are trying to make money.
We're just trying to do it in the way, the most pure way we know we can.
And the reason, the difference between that, because I don't want to ever lie to people, it's like we do have a market value.
Like a lot of people glaze him that are like young guys.
And I get it because he's a pretty charismatic guy.
But on a, as a business guy, I'm just always respected him because, I mean, look, I haven't, I haven't received maybe 10% the hurdles that he's had to go through.
And yeah, I mean, maybe we have, I don't know.
Do we have similar size teams, Mendoza?
Has he got a way bigger team?
He's got a lot more?
Okay, okay, yeah.
So that's even crazier.
So there you go.
So like, you know, we have maybe like a dozen people working here and to have a bigger team going through 90% more hurdles, like that's a pretty damn fantastic feat as a man.
And that's, I don't think anyone talks about that, but it's like, that's what we need to remind ourselves.
It does suck to go through hurdles, but you can run a business being honest.
I will say, as you've experienced, I'm not trying to out your, you know, your personal life or whatever, but there are repercussions for speaking your mind in this industry and you can lose money.
Hopefully at Rift TV here, that's why I'm telling people what, you know, what we're doing with all these shows, even though we're uncensored, is we're trying to create a hub and a home for people who typically wouldn't find career opportunity elsewhere.
But it is expensive, which is why you've got to go to rifttv.com, watch the show, donate, do whatever you've got to do.
But I mean, you've already experienced, I'll just say, you've already experienced the negative repercussions of speaking your mind.
That's all I'll say.
And so it's like, and it sucks.
And people just need to know that.
That's all I want people to know.
Cause if you get into meeting, you're like, I'm just going to speak my mind.
You're going to get fired.
You're going to get persecuted.
You're going to get slandered.
You're going to get maligned.
You're going to get false accusations.
Like, this stuff is going to come your way.
Look at Fuentes, though.
I mean, like, it's almost insane the things people say about him.
I know him.
He's like the most docile, non-sexually promiscuous, like honest Catholic guy probably we've ever met.
And yet it's like, people are like, he runs a pedophile ring with Ollie Alexander.
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Wow, you guys are really angry people.
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Because just quickly, I did say Marxian, like Marxian ideas.
Obviously, class isn't exclusive to communism, but like that dialect where there's like a class struggle and you build up, blah, blah, blah.
That's his view of history.
Obviously, like nationalism sort of like builds over that.
Like the reason socialism sort of exists within right-wing groups is because when you share an identity, you're going to be more forgiving to one another or actually more giving to one another within that group.
And so I should, I didn't want to like, I don't want to leave that where it's like, oh, yeah, anything to do with class is strictly like, yeah, because Marxists believe basically that class is like the only thing that matters.
And yeah, like from a nationalist perspective, it's like yeah, it's like fine for class, like there to be different classes, but also you want to take care of the working class also.
Because I'd say like you're not supposed to just abandon it and only chase money, right?
I think the reason I called it like a class thing is at the moment, like the group which benefits from it is definitely like a higher, higher echelon class of people.
And then I just describe like the rednecks are the ones.
And so The point to make is that there would still be people who with nationalist ideas can bridge that gap and can say that actually, maybe like at a certain profit isn't worth it if it is doing this to my like my peers, my kin, my like people to whom I relate.
Um, as in that, like the more we're ruled by like a market elite, the more we're ruled by an economy, the more it does become because capitalism as an ideology is materialist too, because the actual ideology of capitalism says that material like wealth is like always a good thing, like more material wealth is always a good thing.
Um, and it's like, no, it's not like the answer is somewhere in between, right?
Yeah, well, that's like sort of like where you have like sentiments of like the identity and nationalism come in to try and bridge that.
Because I think at a certain point, like capitalism, free reign, it will, it loves mass immigration, it loves things which are inherently ever growing.
Yeah, it needs it needs constant growth, and so you need something that which can hedge against that, which can control it and limit it.
And that is why I think, in particular, within like the doctrine of being ruled by profit and loss, they want to erode nationhood and identity such that those class divisions can't be breached.
And I think even one of the early, okay, this is like quite a we've only got to go ahead, no, you're fine.
Like the early theory of communism was that capitalism would lead to communism because it would put, you know, it would make inequality worse and it would create a revolution.
That didn't work out.
So Trotsky came along and said, okay, we'll create a revolutionary class to force the revolution.
That's not going too well either because it's just so strong, there's profit and loss.
So that's why rekindling that sense of identity is people don't realize, like, a lot of people try to blame mass immigration, things like this on communism.
And it's really not, it really is more capitalism than communism.
Like, all a lot of labor movements, especially in Australia, like our Labour Party, was founded by explicitly white working class understanding the impact immigration would have on them.
So then forming like a political representation to stop mass immigration and to then protect their working conditions and wages.
So it's just funny that, yes, the left has now moved to a position where they don't want to critique Marxism, but I also think that's because their discourse has changed now.
Where you have the coin, the term I believe is like bio-leninism, where, and it's a sort of a Trotskyan thing where it's okay, make things really bad, then the revolution will come.
Make things worse, allow mass immigration, allow the working class to be smashed, their wages, et cetera, and shatter them into pieces.
So therefore, a revolutionary class can piece them together with this.
Well, yeah, but this is all like, I mean, I think that an average liberal isn't thinking like this.
They're not thinking this grand scheme theory.
They're just thinking like, oh, I don't want to be mean to the guy from the subcontinent.
But there are definitely like theorists like Camus and stuff who are sitting in like the philosopher's saloon saying, okay, here's how we're going to destroy the West.
We're just going to make it really bad.
And we're going to tap into capitalism to allow it to lead to a communist.
I also feel like part of it is they want to try to destroy people's identities, like gender identity, ethnic identity, cultural identity, everything by mixing us all together and saying that we're all the same.
And then, and that way, like, really, what do you have to bond over other than?
And if your identity isn't real, I mean, a lot of people, you walk around today and you ask them, okay, what are you?
They don't really have an ethnic group because everyone's British, everyone's Australian, everyone's American.
Okay, do you have a religion?
Well, no, because the church itself has been, it seems to be, it's lost its spine to a degree.
People don't really have a strength or identity anymore.
And so that's why, you know, again, it's coming back to leftists, the irony, they're not defending the working class, is because they want that identity to be deconstructed to allow market forces to make conditions so bad such that through that revolution can occur.
Is sort of like, I don't know, we're on the tangent here, but yeah.
It's well, it's sort of what the reverse is happening now, where a lot of people in the right wing are celebrating the loss of the conservative parties in Australia and in Canada because they believe that through accelerationism, that this may actually bring about the leader or the aptitude to breed a leader that might actually truly be nationalistic and might be an underdog to bring them out of this neoliberalism.
Yeah, well, the point that goes back to my point: like these market forces are so strong that managing that decline is going to cut it.
Like, as I said, like, you need something that's going to hedge against them, which bounds the people together, which bounds them by, you know, and it's frankly like it is a vaguely a form of socialism, which exists on the right wing.
We see it, like a love for your kin and willing to make a sacrifice for them as a result for the benefit of the populace.
That's the only thing that's going to be strong enough to hedge against this movement of the profit and loss because conservatism itself was only conserving the GDP in the end.
It actually warped and ended up just serving the market that existed under.
Instead of trying to oppose it or hedge against it, it made more and more concessions to the degree that conservatism, what is a conservative statement?
Yeah, we need people like Elijah who are willing to grind through Blaze and get to this point and even, you know, toss up some of the Qatar money and get to this point to stand by their values and create a movement which can, you know, by through your own sacrifice can lead to more prosperity for the nation because we can protect ourselves from these profit and loss systems, which will, yeah, we will concede more and more of our rights to eventually.
Unless people like yourself, Glaze is crazy, but it's true.
Like you need to make an individual sacrifice that the nation can save itself from the profit and loss.
Like once you can stand against that, the capitalist sort of this is a very, I don't know, I'm about to take a massive pay cut myself anyways to continue to grow this company.
And it does hurt.
And I've had to do a couple because I could have just sat back and like ran my shows and just kept all the money and did whatever, but I'm trying to grow and expand because, you know, God gives the growth.
It says that, you know, that oftentimes we put in the effort, but God gives the growth.
Meaning, you know, when a man labors, it's important to realize that, you know, this show's very, it's like a softcore degenerate show.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's, it's like we don't shy away from different things.
But when you get down to the seriousness of it, that's what people need to realize when they watch the show.
You can joke around, you can make mistakes, but we don't accept the fallen nature in us.
We still have to come close to God, come close to his church, and we've got to seek to have transformation.
No matter how many times you fall, the Bible says you fall seven times as a man, but the righteous man, he gets back up.
Meaning, like Lot, you know, lived near the gate of Sodom, and that led to his corruption, the proximity towards evil, led towards what was like the multuation of his heart.
So he was sort of, you know, deadened or hardened to the depravity because he lived in the gate of Sodom.
And the gate is the place of where the politics took place, right?
That's where the conversations of gossip.
He was involved in it.
So sometimes when you're involved in politics, the world and you're in it, it hardens your heart.
Yeah, lots eldest daughter got drunk and had sex with him.
Yeah, okay, that's see.
Now you're making me doubt my own theology, but no, so they had sex with him.
And so, this guy, obviously, it's like you read his story and you're like, dude, he was a degenerate.
He's having incestual sex with not one, but two of his daughters.
Is this guy?
That's how the nation of Pakistan was born.
But you also go literally, though, this is like where we go down to get these people.
But uh, but then you go to like uh, you know, Hebrews, right, towards the hall of faith, and then you see that it was accounted towards Lot righteousness because of his obedience to God to leave, right?
Where his wife turned around and she was emulsified and turned into salt.
Like, you know, our understanding of God's heart and the way he judges us is different.
And what I got from all of the actions of God, who he called righteous and faithful, is that he always called men righteous, not who were perfect, they were often very degenerate, they were often adulterers and murderers and backstabbers.
And they, you know, oftentimes were even greedy or had you know, took advantage of people.
But when God called them towards bravery and obedience, like Lot, when he called him to leave the city and to do something that made no sense, his will and his act of obedience is what set him apart.
And yet he accounted to him faith.
So then he apparently got eternal life from that from that.
So long story short, a lot of times we think that you know, you got to be Seth Dylan or Joel Berry and you got to be perfect.
And that's the only time God's going to use you because you don't drink, you don't smoke, you don't debate people, and you're better than everyone else.
But sometimes the reason why, you know, Kanye West, we like him, even though he's got a lot of faults, we like men who are brave, who are pushing the overton window, who are trying to like destroy the current system.
And we're not so concerned with their like, you know, immoral impulses, basically.
Because everybody knows, like, Trump, even he's what married multiple times, definitely assaulted some woman for sure.
You know, some of that's got to be true.
I mean, not the ugly ones, but you know, he's had some questionable nights.
You, you know, billionaires are at least better than Epstein's nights.
And, but everyone didn't care, right?
In 2016, because we just wanted him as president.
We wanted someone that was going to break the system.
And now he's taking money from Jews.
So don't take money from Jews is the final comment today.
Because during our labor movement, they actually took the American spelling.
Really?
Because they didn't want to be, like, there's some, it's interesting if you're reading about it, but yeah, we use, referring to the party, we don't use a U, but in any other case, like traditional labor, we use a U. All right.
