March 9, 2025 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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Yeah, but I mean, you did tell me that you did, you did weigh the options between, you know, sleeping with hoes and, you know, and you thought you were like, hey, cigars, cars, hoes.
And you call me one day and you're like, maybe I'll just choose Catholicism.
But also pimping out the hoes did sound like a good idea.
You woke in the morning, like, do I say my rosary or do I make women strip down naked and sell their pussies for money?
And you know what?
It is a tough decision for some people.
I do like Andrew.
I'm just fucking around there.
You know, but I know, but we do, we all make different choices, but we're about allies here.
That's the key thing, man.
It's about allies.
What's weird is that you, we took a picture together at CPAC.
We're jumping to the topic in a second, but we took a picture together.
And the weirdest part about it was I had people unfollow me and I got people, my DMs like, bro, do not go down this path.
And I was like, the path of hanging out with a virgin Catholic person?
Like, is that, what is the path?
You know what I mean?
Like, bro, you fucked 35 girls in like one week in Vegas last week.
You know, what path, your path?
You know, Stephen Crowder's ex-wife path?
Like, like, these people are like virtue signaling on the internet.
And it's like, what path?
I just find it to be interesting because there's very few people that I know personally besides you and Tate that just even like being in the same room is enough.
Well, they always say, no, no, she didn't get fired.
She got kicked out of the influencer program.
She was an ambassador or whatever.
But I mean, it's a difference without a distinction.
But yeah, no, it's weird how, and, you know, maybe this is part of the bigger conversation about Theo Vaughn and Candace and Ian Carroll on Joe Rogan.
There was a time for about five or six years when I was totally radioactive.
And why?
I mean, for saying a lot of the things that are now mainstream, for criticizing Israel, for being a social conservative, for being against anti-white politics.
And, you know, I remind people those were actually the three big issues that propelled the Greuper War, which is what put me on the map.
We were going against Charlie Kirk.
It was one, we're against legal immigration, replacement migration.
Two, we're social conservatives.
So when he was promoting Rob Smith, the gay black veteran, we said, that's not the best idea.
That's not the best thing.
And then three, when it comes to the state of Israel, we're America first.
That applies to all countries, allies, adversaries, Israel, Qatar, Russia, China.
It applies to all of them.
Yes, even Israel.
And it was those three things that got me canceled.
It was those three things, which is why now, if you're in a picture with me, you get fired.
If I go on your show, they pull your sponsors.
People get in trouble.
Alex Stein, Hodge twins, you.
I mean, people get in trouble for it.
And that used to be the reason why that happened.
But now I look around and I'm like, everybody's saying this stuff now.
Matt Walsh, Charlie Kirk, even people that are more in the middle, that Viva Frey, Viva Fry guy, even he was saying some of this stuff.
So it's like, if everybody's criticizing Israel, if everybody's anti-anti-white, everybody's against legal immigration, everybody's a social conservative, why am I still canceled?
Look, this is why the boys got to have friends, because i'm telling you, 2025 is going to be the year of uncanceling Nicholas J Fuentes, let's go give me some confetti, please.
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We don't just have physical props, we have digital props too.
No no but, but okay, but that is a good question, right?
I mean because, like okay, because here here's what you're saying, like okay Hennessy, over here, people don't know you you were about to go to jail for five years about what?
But this is what you're saying about not not being canceled.
I want to bring this up.
This is this is actually.
This is fun.
We're gonna have some fun.
Let's start with some fun stuff, all right?
Uh, Slightlyoffensive.com journalist Sarah Stock bring up my screen said, i'm officially not a conservative anymore, because you're saying, if this is, if everyone is this kind of conservative, then what's going on?
So let's talk about conservatism.
Where are we right now?
She's like, i'm a Christian and a nationalist and uh, she posted this picture of a man named Josh Satir, Seder Sider.
I don't know uh, if you have a problem with two dudes in bed together, you're not a true conservative, all right, and you know, oh god well like okay, I don't.
Crew, it's well like, but like okay I I obviously, we all kind of know what you think about this stuff, but I mean, let's just talk about this, because I do think there are some issues.
She wrote an article for our website Slightlyoffensive.com, about like 10 issues that conservatives gave up on, right?
So they kind of redefine conservatism.
The one one of them is this gay stuff.
Right, we've sort of embraced uh, fully embraced the, the gayness and you were fighting that with Rob Smith, right you guys, the whole question was is, how is anal sex a conservative value?
Right, I mean, we did give up on this, right?
I mean, what do you?
What do you think about this?
I mean, are we really winning if we're talking about all these issues but this is what we're not talking about?
Have you changed your opinion on this?
Or what do you take about the fact that conservatism is gay now?
Yeah well it, it always has been, it always has been, and the thing is and this is part of what I say the conservative movement is supposed to profess Christian, social conservative values, but that's because the audience and the voters are Christians and conservatives.
The people that run the conservative movement are actually not very Christian.
They're Jews, Atheists.
A lot of them are gay, and for a long time there was a pretense that they were Christian.
There was a pretense uh, that they were socially conservative, but that's all it was, was this facade, and so they will go and promise the voters, hey, you know, we're part of this moral majority, we're socially conservative, and yet the country always moved more left-wing.
And you wonder why that is?
It's because the things that they really care about, the interests That propel the conservative party, are economic ones.
So the conservative party is about cutting taxes for the rich.
The conservative party's about free trade.
They're in favor of immigration.
It's not values-driven.
It's interest-driven.
It's not driven by the values of the voters, but by the interest of the donors.
And so, you know, we came out very strongly in 2019 and said, look, we are conservative.
We have MAGA hats.
We have rosaries.
We're the actual people that make up the base, and we don't actually think it's acceptable to promote things that are sinful.
And, you know, in the case of Scott Presler, he's a nice guy.
I mean, I've met him.
He's a friendly enough person.
And whenever people attack him, all the conservatives circle the wagons and say, oh, he's this great guy.
He did a lot in Pennsylvania.
But the question is, discretion.
Is there a place for discretion?
I mean, he's living that lifestyle.
It's not Christian.
It's not Catholic.
Is that something conservatives should be promoting?
And when conservatives say there's nothing wrong with this, this is fine.
You're going to have this.
And it is what it is.
That's where I say, what are we really doing here?
You know, what is really the purpose of organizing as the right wing if we're promoting left-wing values?
You know, I believe if you, if that's your cause, you want to promote homosexuality or non-traditional sexuality, be on the left.
That's the left-wing coalition.
What is it to be right-wing if we support all the things the left-wing does?
But we're just going to kind of go a little bit less.
So trannies, but not for eight-year-olds over the age of eight.
I want to be able to drink a beer and remove my balls.
You know what I mean?
This is America, damn.
But hey, did the children?
Now that's fucked up.
But it is true, though.
It is, it's not just the reason why it's weird with some of these issues is because they go, well, we're moving the goalposts, right?
We're trying to actually change their justifications.
We're going to change the discretion.
Eventually, we're going to win, right?
So we're going to get it to 18.
And then once we get that victory, then we'll go further.
But it doesn't seem like they actually do go further.
And also, why are we even playing with the goalpost?
Why don't we nuke it?
Like nuke the goalposts, right?
The issue isn't a debatable one.
It's about this, this might need to be illegal, actually, or something to that regard.
And also, there is an understanding that there's always been people who like swing that way or whatever.
But we need to get people back in the closet.
Like that's, that's what we should be telling people.
Like, hey, you need to be celibate or you need to like serve God.
And if you, if you struggle with this or you have that issue, we don't hate you for having a problem or a struggle because all of sin all fallen short of the glory of God, Romans 3, 23.
But we're not, you're not going to be in a conservative organization, just like you can't be in a picture with Nick Fuentes.
You can't be in a picture with a Catholic guy, but you can be in a bed together with another guy and you'll get invited to speak at the White House.
And I like, and I like that, I like that guy.
Scott Presser, I like him.
He's a nice guy.
I've worked with him directly.
And I have no ill to say about him as a person.
In fact, there's a lot of people I agree with.
This is a key thing that I don't like, you know, because they're just shitty people.
And he's not, he's a nice person.
But I will say there's no way that anyone looks at, look at this.
There's no way this doesn't just make everyone a little uncomfortable.
Put that on the screen.
It's just a little uncomfortable, you know?
That's why I think down here, our journalist said, homosexuality is so degenerate.
She just converted Catholicism, by the way, that it feels unchristian to even talk about it, what it actually entails.
And it's insane that average people, let alone conservatives, ever accepted this as normal, let alone positive or wholesome.
And obviously, we got two other gay guys on the show, Michael and Mr. Hennessy here, which know a lot about that.
You know what I mean?
They just got out of a long-term relationship with each other.
No, but I mean, it is interesting, right?
This is an issue.
I'm from a city from Chicago, from LA.
You know, we're in a very Jewish city right now.
This is their culture, right?
But it is weird, though.
Like, there is a level for even me from being in LA where that does make me uncomfortable seeing like two interesting looking fellas just like cuddling up, like acting like a, there's like a very feminine, male, feminine version.
It's like, I don't want to see a man act that way.
It's definitely something I personally don't want to see in the way that it's like flaunted online, shown, and everybody protecting it.
Like, somebody can be a good person, but still, the act, the actions that we see on the internet or the things that they're doing, that doesn't mean that we have to agree with everything that they're doing.
So, something like that is way off from where we need to be.
If he does something by himself, you know, behind closed doors, that's a whole different thing.
I'm not going to push there, but to have it in our faces like this, to be and then everybody running to support it and being like, oh, this is something great.
And, guys, we're going to be talking about a lot of stuff here because I want to talk about more things on the right wing, but I don't think we ever won that because Rob Smith is like basically in the White House, you know?
And you know, he was against Trump.
Like, what's kind of crazy is too, there's always a double standard.
So, like, oh, well, you can't support Trump or anything he's doing because you were against him in the beginning.
You can't celebrate him winning.
It's like, well, Rob Smith was, you know, I don't know, getting fucked in the ass or some shit like that, maybe.
Who knows?
But I mean, he was going out and he was on this high horse and like, I regret ever wearing that hat and whatever.
And flipped on him, and now he's a MAGA guy again.
And that's like what's kind of crazy.
It's like the standard, as long as you're just not Nick, or as long as you're not Tate, and they've done this now.
There's this new thing that Jeremy Boring put out.
You know, like if you associate with Tate, you're not welcome in the conservative ink circle.
You know, this gatekeeping is public now.
It used to be private.
They used to deny it.
And now they accept it.
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I think all the issues are moving in the right direction because, I mean, there was a time when they were very open about that.
You know, they, Turning Point would literally give out stickers with like a rainbow flag and said like it's a Second Amendment thing.
Like, and I love how they try and reframe conservative issues to sound more liberal.
Like, well, we need the Second Amendment so gay people can protect themselves from homophobes.
That was the kind of stuff they were doing back then.
And now, you know, at the minimum, now they have to reform that pretense again and say, oh, no, no, we're very religious.
Oh, we don't support that.
And obviously they still do.
And these people are still in the circle.
But, you know, there was a poll that just came out and said that with Generation Z and across the board, people are more against gay marriage than they were five years ago.
And there's actually a state rep in Michigan, Josh Shriver, who proposed a bill in the Michigan House, which would challenge the gay marriage ruling in the Supreme Court.
So I do think that things are moving in the right direction.
There's still a lot of work towards that end.
But yeah, I think traditionalism's on the rise again, but we just got to keep our foot on the gas because the problem is, you know, what Scott posted, or the other guy, the Jewish guy he's in bed with, literally.
And what he said in the tweet was, if you have a problem with this, then you're not conservative.
So he's actually challenging Christians on this basis.
And it's one thing if you go and you're looking for somebody like Scott and saying, hey, I got a problem with you because privately or discreetly, you know, you're not 100% Christian or whatever.
But no, this is the issue.
They're challenging the Christians and saying, if you're not down with promoting, you know, contrary lifestyle, a sinful lifestyle, then you're the problem.
Then you got to go.
And this is the issue.
It's the same thing with what Elon did back in December.
When Elon said, if you don't support H-1Bs, you're the problem.
You got to go.
And it's like across the board.
And like with Jeremy Boring, if you're not down with Israel, then you're out of the conservative movement.
And so it's like, there's a fork in the road.
Are we a conservative movement that is Christian, that is against immigration, that is America first when it comes to Israel?
Or are we a conservative movement that says, yeah, be gay, be trans, be a feminist.
We want legal Indians to come here and replace tech workers.
And, you know, it's Israel first.
It's all about Israel.
Give more money to Israel.
And if you put it like that, if you put out a ballot to conservatives and there was a referendum, people would side with the Groupers.
People would side with America first, Christian, anti-immigration, as opposed to the latter.
And when, and it's to your point, now that we're on a mainstream platform like Rumble or X, now that we actually have a fighting chance, we're on a level, sort of a level playing field, all of a sudden now the ground has shifted underneath these other people.
And now the gatekeepers are having to explain why, you know, in the case of Jeremy Boring, people prefer Candace Owens over Ben Shapiro.
People prefer Nick Fuentes over whoever.
So that's why I think things are moving in the right direction, but we have to stay aggressive and not, you know, not let people get complicit about where we are.
Yeah, but the Charlie Kirk, it's actually shocked me today.
Now, I like Charlie.
I know Charlie.
I know you guys go way back.
I think actually one of the first times we interacted was at a Politicon in LA when Charlie was speaking there and they didn't even let you in the room.
I'm pretty sure they didn't even let you into the speech, right?
No, but I was going to say, it is interesting with all this being said and done.
There's a lot of this gaslighting going on.
And that sucks because we like to gaslight.
You know what I mean?
They're trying to steal our game.
I want to gaslight them.
But there's a lot of gaslighting.
Let's talk about some of it.
Go to my post here.
I like Joel.
This is crazy.
These guys are all very smart.
This is actually insane.
They're smart.
They're rich.
And they think that we're stupid with the things they've been posting recently.
And I don't understand because Joel's not a dumb guy.
And he's built a great business and he's made a lot of money.
And he comes out and he's like, another reminder that expressing public disagreement is not censorship or cancellation.
This is sort of the conservative establishment talking about Israel and disagreeing with Candace, with anyone who talks about it, saying that if you talk about Israel, it has to be because you're getting paid from Qatar, right?
Literally is insane.
You have to be taking money.
It's not because you care about your country.
It's not because you see that your government's occupied.
It's not because you want your government to work for its people.
And you ask yourself, why is it not working for its people?
Well, maybe because we're not its people.
Maybe the government looks like us and they seem to come from us.
But what if they're serving another occupation?
What if there's a different group of people and their interests that they're serving and it's not us?
Maybe it's not on accident.
Maybe it's not Democrat policies and bad governments and incompetence and all these excuses people make.
Maybe there's actually a genuine group of people that the government is serving and it's not us.
Have you ever thought about that?
So if you notice that and you see that and you want something better for your kids, they start saying, well, you know, I think actually even Joel explained that you could be possessed by the devil or demons or whatever.
You know, there's a dark thing happening, right?
This is really dark.
You know, people talk about Israel as demonic.
It is crazy because they're like, you know, expressing public disagreement is not censorship or cancellation.
And this goes on the back of, this is the best gaslighting I've heard.
Well, I mean, here's the thing about these people.
They never engage in good faith.
They always engage in bad faith.
And that's where you have to start.
Because a lot of people look at a tweet like that or any of these tweets about the Qatari money or anything like that.
And people start to come up with arguments.
They formulate arguments and they say, wait, wait, that's not true.
Of course people are being censored.
Of course it's being canceled and all these things.
You can't get angry about it because they sort of have like this series of defenses.
And so when one of them fails, then they just fall back on another one.
So they'll go to people and say, well, this is anti-Semitic when that fails.
Oh, well, they're being paid by Qatar when that fails.
Well, you're not actually being canceled.
And so you have to start by saying, okay, this is a person that's clearly taking money from Israel in some form.
This is a person who's clearly on that team.
And you just have to disregard what they're saying because it's obvious.
Like, yes, people are canceled for talking about these things.
And it happened to me.
I mean, I was an 18-year-old kid.
I mean, people have heard this story before many times, but I was an 18-year-old freshman in college who just said, hey, why do we give Israel all this foreign aid money?
Like, isn't that strange?
Isn't that conspicuous?
That's the question.
And Daily Wire, who I was in touch with at that time, you know, some of Ben Shapiro's people, they literally sent clips of my show to Media Matters, which is a left-wing group, which is a left-wing Soros group to post hit pieces about me, which eventually led to me being censored.
Same thing during the Groyper War with Charlie Kirk, Benny Johnson, who is very popular.
He's on this network.
He's on Rumble.
Benny Johnson put out this giant thread, a mega thread of all these clips calling me a racist, a sexist, an anti-semite, everything you can think of.
You could go on Benny Johnson's Twitter from November, December, 2019, and he literally put together the greatest hits when we were laying into Charlie Kirk and said, here's Nick making a joke about segregation.
Here's him saying women should be in the kitchen.
Here's him making a joke about the Holocaust.
Here's him.
And it's like the ADL couldn't have done it better themselves.
SPLC could, I mean, this is just a straight up hit piece.
And it's like you said, it's gaslighting because they cancel you.
They censor you.
They blackball you.
They whisper.
There's a whisper campaign.
I get in a picture with someone like Elijah and they text him and say, hey, don't ever do that again.
Are you sure you want to do that?
And then they'll go on Twitter and say, oh, well, just because we disagree, that doesn't mean you're being canceled.
It's like, oh, okay.
So when you're not doing the whisper campaign in private, then you go on Twitter and say there's no cancellation.
We just disagree.
I mean, that's a bunch of BS.
And they know that.
And that's the point.
They know they're lying.
They know they're lying through their teeth.
And that's why you can't engage with them in good faith.
You just have to disregard people like that.
But it's just a question of now.
And again, it all comes back to platform access.
This is something I talked about on my last show on Thursday.
For the past five or six years, after Trump got elected, there was this intense censorship against anybody that talked about any of these things.
And the only people that were left standing are the people that don't.
The Daily Wire crowd, the Turning Point crowd, people like Joel Berry.
And they were the biggest beneficiaries of the censorship.
Because the censorship, although they cried about it, it only affected the far right.
It only affected people that were called white nationalist, anti-Semite, Christian nationalist, Christian fanatic, people that were promoting the gay stuff, Israel, the free market.
They were untouched by censorship.
And so for all that time, they ignored us, blackballed us, facilitated the censorship.
Like, like I said, doing the ADL's job for them.
In some cases, finding the clips, posting the threads.
Now that thanks to Elon Musk, not thanks to them, not thanks to the Trump administration, not thanks to the conservative movement, thanks to Elon buying Twitter and putting us back on the internet.
Now that we get to have a voice too, now they say, oh, well, we never canceled anybody.
We never blackballed anybody.
And again, it's like I said from the start, it's this always shifting goalpost.
It's this Mott and Bailey where when one defense fails, they just fall back on another bullshit line.
And so you just have to consider them, you know, part of this enemy force.
They're not engaging in good faith.
So, you know, these Joel Berry types, it's just scumbag stuff.
That's a cut scene type of thing where it's like, well, we can't expose the bad pedophiles because there's some people we need in the government that are still around that were also on the plane.
So then you don't get anything.
I will say though with the money, though, I want to say something very important.
We talked about it last night.
I was offered money from Qatar back in DC.
I won't out who it was and stuff like that, but it was very, very simple.
And so there is money, right?
This is actually true.
There is Qatari money.
However, I can tell you this, though.
The reason why I didn't take that money is the same reason why I didn't take the offer from RT as well, the Russian money that I was offered, because I go, you know, there could be some sketchy things involved in that.
Even if I wasn't asked to do anything against my conscience, certain countries, you're like, I got to be careful taking money from them because this could be a honeypot deal.
However, I wrote a post as well on X.
And this is a true statement.
And I stand by it and I bet my reputation on it.
And I could take it to court.
I am in an NDA with the company.
And so I, you know, really don't want to cause myself any legal trouble.
But I did talk about it.
Check this out.
I said, jokes aside, I have genuinely been offered thousands of dollars to lie on behalf of the IDF on my X account multiple times.
I've documented it publicly when it happened.
They bombed unarmed teams walking and asked a few of us to say that it wasn't a bomb from the IDF, but an IED they were holding that accidentally went off.
They wanted us to falsely label innocent civilians as Hamas terrorists.
This was back close to the start of their war.
Quite a few of my colleagues shared the info willingly, even after I flagged it was false.
This was not the first or last time I was offered money to create propaganda for Israel.
A lot of organizations on the right are taking their dollars and are bought and paid for, but those of us who worked inside know the game.
It's not even a secret.
Funny how they'll always accuse you of what they're doing.
The thing is, is they, it's like when the left calls you gay and it's like, I thought gay was good.
You should be, you should, if you're going to make fun of someone, don't use gay as a slur if you think gay is good.
It's that same kind of argument where you're saying taking money from a foreign government is like some standard that undermines your credibility.
It's like, well, you know, they're taking money from a foreign government, so they've got to be, you know, fucked in the head.
And it's like, hey, I was offered money from a foreign government.
Yeah, it was through an NGO, but it was literally to ask for a lot.
Check out the video here.
I even included the video that they asked us to lie about here.
Well, in that account that replied to you, that Max Nordow, Max Nordow is a pseudonym.
It's a fake name.
If you look up Max Nordow on Wikipedia, he's a famous Zionist.
He's a famous Zionist from like 100 years ago.
And the Max Nordow account was like a DeSantis surrogate.
He was like, he's largely, Laura Loomer alleges that he was a spokesperson for the DeSantis campaign.
And on the DeSantis campaign, I've been told this.
You literally had people on the DeSantis campaign that would stand over, watch the speeches be written and say, oh, you're not talking enough about Israel.
Need to include more stuff about Israel.
And here's the thing.
People don't know that that goes on in the conservative movement.
The rubes that are out there that never go to DC, that aren't involved in this operation, they don't know that the people they follow on Twitter don't even run their own Twitter accounts, don't write their own books, that they're getting paid under the table by various groups to write different tweets, post videos for social media campaigns.
Like you said, you were offered money.
You see other people writing the same prompts.
They just don't know.
Yeah, thank you.
They just don't know that that sort of thing is going on.
And that's why I say, you know, they are in bad faith.
They don't care about the truth.
And if they're denying it, it's because they're in on it.
Like I said, it is so well established that there is like, I mean, $100 million from AIPAC last year.
APAC spent $100 million in last year's cycle to unseat people in primaries who voted against Israeli foreign aid.
And they were open about it.
And so you'll have people, again, this is the Mott and Bailey.
But Will Chamberlain, you know, he goes and tweets the other day because the big controversy surrounding APAC is that they're not registered under FARA.
Every group that gets money from a foreign government has to register under the Foreign Agent Registration Act so that there's transparency about where they're getting their money.
And so, you know, like JFK tried to force the American Jewish Committee to register under Farah when he was killed.
Lyndon Johnson just dropped it, didn't force him.
And then they basically re-engineered how they spend the money under APAC.
So people say this is a big problem.
APAC should register.
Other groups should register.
Will Chamberlain, who's Jewish, says, well, they don't need to register under Farah because we already know it's all Israeli money.
And so it's like, again, this is the kind of stuff they do.
It's this Mott and Bailey where you say, there's Jewish money.
That's anti-Semitic.
Okay, but it's factual.
Well, there's other money going in.
Okay, but they should register under Farah.
Well, we already know that it's Jewish money.
And so there's just no way you're going to win because they're agents, they're spies.
That's why we call it the matrix because you think you're dealing with people.
You're dealing with agents that work for the system.
So the goal is not to argue with a Will Chamberlain, a Max Nordow, a Joel Berry.
The point is to expose them.
It's to humiliate them.
It is to destroy their credibility.
It is to expose them.
It's to say, you're not an honest actor.
You're an agent.
And that way people stop listening to them.
But people need to be aware that we're playing a different game than they think we are.
People think we're playing a game where we're trying to persuade Charlie Kirk.
Like he doesn't know.
He's ignorant.
And we're saying, you gotta, you gotta read this book.
You gotta get red pilled.
He knows what's up.
They're paid off.
So the goal, the game is to convince the people by humiliating and exposing the system.
And that's why people say, you know, why does Charlie Kirk debate the governor of California?
Why does he debate socialists?
If socialism is so evil and kills 100 million people, why do you sit on a stage and debate socialists, but not a far-right person?
Like you said, not a Catholic virgin pushing American nationalism.
It's because that's not part of the game.
It's like, you know, in the dark night when they say that's not part of the plan.
It's not according to plan.
You can debate the people on the left.
You can't debate the people on the far right flank.
So it makes everyone famous too, because I think we can maybe call it Vivek Ramaswamying, someone, you know, he's someone who just got exposed on the world stage.
I felt vindicated after years of warning people.
And remember, they insulted me at the RNC.
You know, security did.
It's very, very personal.
You know, I don't like Indian people.
There's more to the statement.
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I don't like Indian people, you know, assaulting me, you know.
But Charlie Kirk actually was being asked a question.
And this is sort of where I think we've talked about and where the desperation is coming is people are really, really pissed off these days.
Like we are really angry.
I look around and, you know, our own employee here, Earl, you know, he's like, he got back from Europe and he's like, bro, I was in the Miami airport and he was like bug people, just like Hispanic, like round people, like stick legs.
Like, everyone's talking.
He's like, he's like, dude, I know that a lot of countries have gotten, you know, the immigration thing wrong in the West, but like the U.S. is like the most fucked I've ever, I've seen.
You guys always talk about Europe and stuff.
He's like, I've just never seen a place more like where you're in a third world and you don't feel like you're in a Western country than here.
You know, he's like, he goes, literally, I'm like taller than everyone.
He's, you know, Chad Australian.
You know what I mean?
It's like, I'm just taller than everyone.
I'm like sitting around.
Like, do I look like this?
Like, these people are like aliens.
And I think that's what's happening is like people are realizing they're living in an alien country.
Like this is not, this is not a Western country anymore.
You have to be rich to live in the West now, right?
If you're a middle, if you're a middle class, which is shrinking, you don't live here anymore.
You're living in this weird, unsafe, dangerous third world nation.
And people want that to change.
And so when Vivek said, hey, we want to bring more Indians over, here's the problem.
We've seen what's happening in Toronto, in Vancouver, what's happened in Sydney and Melbourne.
We see what's happening in Auckland.
Do you know that New Zealand's about to be the first of the white countries that's going to be minority white?
It's about to hit there, I think, 2028.
It's going to be minority.
And now in New Zealand, the number one last name is Singh.
So it's Singh and then Patel.
So look, they're going down.
No one knows about New Zealand, but the sheepherders are not doing well.
This is a fucking, like, we're fighting for our lives.
Okay.
Like, white people are fighting for our lives.
And I think that a lot of people, it's not a conversation anymore.
This is not a, oh, Charlie, I disagree with you.
It's Charlie, if you are not on board with me, you're part of the problem and you're going to get my kids fucking killed.
We don't want to be like the Boers.
You know, we don't want to, we see what's happened in Rhodesia.
May it live on.
Rhodesia never died.
But we see that.
Check this out.
He gets interviewed about bringing, you know, if America could be Indian, listen.
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Will America still be America if it's not extra Indian, it's not extra Chinese?
Or is it like a viewer?
Stop a certain kind of people in a certain way.
I will say no.
Answer the question, Miss Plus.
America will cease to be America if it does not have a Christian foundation.
Yeah, well, and then he tried to do damage control later and say, well, I didn't understand the question.
And of course, he understood the question in context.
You know, the guy asked, is there a racial or ethnic basis for nationality, for nationhood, for national identity?
And Charlie Kirk says, well, the foundation of America is that it's Christian.
And that's the new thing.
That's like what's trending now.
Because six, seven years ago, they said, it's the Constitution.
You know, as long as we have the Constitution, it's America.
And his line was, you could go on a desert island.
And as long as you have the Constitution, that would be America.
Now, because, and again, they're playing catch up.
They're trying to sound like us or trying to sound like what appeals to the base.
They say, well, it's a Christian nation as long as it, well, what if it's all Indians and they're Christian?
Then is it America?
Yes, as long as they're, and then he gets blown out.
It goes viral.
I think AF Post posted the clip.
And people go, this is bullshit.
Of course that wouldn't be America.
And then he goes and writes this essay.
Well, what I meant was that, you know, Christianity is a part of America, this and that.
And here's the missing word from that statement in both statements, the corrected one and the original one, which Elijah's pulling up.
The mention of race.
This is the thing that they cannot touch, race and ethnicity, which is that race has anything to do with what it means to be an American, that race has anything to do with what it means to be European, Western, anything like that.
And they, and they're at this point now, conservative Inc. is in this sort of uncomfortable position where they know they can't keep pushing civic nationalism.
They know they can't keep telling Americans America's an idea, America's a concept, you know, it's abstract.
At the same time, they also can't say it's about race because then people start to say, so what?
Black people aren't American, so what?
We're not, you know, we're white nationalists.
So they're in this uncomfortable position where they want to have it both ways.
And I said in the reply to Charlie Kirk's response, I said, just say race, just say white.
America was founded by white people.
European is a race.
Europeans are distinct from Asians, Africans, the indigenous people here.
They look different, act different, have a different level of development.
They just are different.
If you have white people forming a country, it will look one way.
If you have non-white people, it will look another way.
We like the way America is or the way it used to be.
We want it to be that way for our kids.
We want it to be that way in the future.
That means it can't be non-white.
That means it cannot be transformed into a non-white place.
That means we have to stop immigration from non-white countries.
But nobody wants to frame it in those terms.
And there's something involved in this where, you know, we live in a democracy.
We live in a capitalist society.
And the uncomfortable reality of these systems is that they're universal.
You know, why do we talk about things when we say they're corporate?
And we know what that means.
They're sterile.
We know what that means.
It's because if you're a company, you have to appeal to everybody in the country.
If you're trying to sell a product, you're trying to sell to as many people as possible.
And you can't offend anybody because then, you know, if it's a publicly traded company, oh, your stock price falls.
And the same is true in a democracy.
Why can't politicians talk about race?
Because they got to win everybody's vote.
And not only non-white people, but white people that are sympathetic to non-white people.
And so as long as we're in this system, it's sort of like we can never really tell the truth because we're always trying to appeal to everybody involved, voters, consumers.
If you're Charlie Kirk, if you're JD Vance, if you're trying to sell a group, if you're trying to run for office, you have to please everybody.
And you can't please everybody and save America.
That's sort of the uncomfortable position because it's like somebody's going to have to stand up and say, look, we prefer whites.
Well, and that's the thing is like race is a field of knowledge.
It would be like if you're trying to talk about how to build a skyscraper without talking about engineering, you know, or mathematics or something.
It's a field of knowledge.
When we're talking about sociology, we're talking about political science.
You're sort of just like, it's injurious to not talk about a field of knowledge, which is extremely relevant.
You can't build a country without considering how people group each other, how people identify the different level of salience for each of these different identities.
And, you know, we all recognize why they don't do it.
It's not because, and this is sort of what I'm getting at.
It's not because of the truth value, the value of the truth.
It's because it's politically, it's politically incorrect.
It's because politically there's consequences for talking about it.
And like, you know, we could persist in the delusion.
People can pretend it doesn't exist.
But like you said, we're feeling the effects of it.
The country is noticeably less white now than it was 20 years ago.
And I know that because, you know, I'm 26 now.
I could remember what it was like 20 years ago.
I remember what it was like in the early 2000s.
And we were already pretty deracinated at that point.
And so the question becomes in a practical way, what happens when your kids are going to a public school because, you know, you're middle class, you can't afford private school, and all the kids in the school are Indian, you know, or Mexican.
And they're saying the Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish because that's how it is in Chicago.
If you go into the west side of Chicago, you go into the West suburbs, they say the pledge in Spanish.
All the kids are in ESL.
English is a second language.
That's just how it is now.
And if you go to other neighborhoods, if you go out to Aurora in Illinois, if you go to Northern Virginia, all Indians and Arabs and they're taking off for Diwali and they're taken off for all their holidays.
And you start seeing structures literally go up in these suburbs of like Indian deities, like Hindu deities.
Do we want to live in a country where there's like statues of Vishnu going up?
Do we want to live in a country where everyone's taking a day off for Diwali or, you know, Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish?
And what does it feel like when your kids are in a classroom where nobody looks like each other and they're picked on for being white or something like that?
I mean, I went to London a couple of years ago to do Pearl Davis's show.
I was in some shopping mall and I saw a field trip from like a grade school or a high school.
Every single one of them was Sikh.
You know, they all had the Sikh headgear on.
They're all brown.
And it's like, this is a country where nobody's even familiar.
Who the fuck wants to live in this country?
And it's not like, you know, but that's not, it always gets bound up in, well, you hate them for being Indian.
It's like, well, is it hateful to prefer being around your own kind?
You know, it might be racist, but it's not hateful.
And people need to kind of get comfortable with like, look, if I'm being called racist, but we live in a country where I'm comfortable and my kids are comfortable.
I'll gladly be called a racist.
I don't give a shit, you know, because like our quality of life is going to deteriorate to an unacceptable level.
And people are saying, oh, well, what are you going to do?
Get called racist?
Yeah, it's worth it.
And as time goes on, as the cost for living in a non-white country grows, that risk analysis where people say, is it worth stepping out of line, being accused of being a bigot?
It's going to change.
And I think you're going to get more of a pro-white politics.
I think you already are because people don't want to deal with it.
Nobody wants to live in a place like this.
And now you see these videos of the Indians, the street food, you know, it's all become very popular.
I mean, the lack of hygiene and, you know, Vivek, he's in the interview with his shoes and socks off.
Like I mentioned, what happens is people like me, you know, I have two sons, right?
Beautiful, blonde-haired, blue-eyed, cutest little dudes you ever meet.
You know, one's two, one's five months old.
And I look at them and I'm like, you know, dads will be like, you know, I would take a bullet for you.
This is like the boomer in the car, right?
I would take a bullet for you.
You know, if somebody shot my way, I would stand in front of my wife and take the bullet.
Like, all right, put the fries in the bag, calm down for a second.
Not asking you to take a bullet.
I'm asking you just to be called a mean name.
You know what I mean?
It's like, but hey, it's like, dude, but do I get me called racist, bro?
I got a job.
Okay, so, dog, you're willing to fucking die for your family, but being called a mean name.
And it's like, well, you know, it'll make it harder to get a job.
Okay, so what are you more worried about?
You're a pussy and you don't know how to provide for your family while being authentic and honest.
So you're telling me you're a weak ass bitch.
It's like, oh, well, yeah, you know, if I was authentic, then it would be harder.
Oh, you mean, if you're a genuine person and you're doing what's right, sometimes life is difficult and you're not willing to do that for your family, but you're willing to die.
I don't believe you.
You sack of shit.
I don't believe you.
So there's a lot of people out there.
You know, they got their beards.
They drink black rifle coffee.
You know what I mean?
They go to the gun show.
And then it's like, they're actually like, dude, I really just don't want people to think that I'm racist because we all bleed red.
And you go, well, dude.
What matters more?
What matters more?
The way people perceive you or what's actually really fucking going on?
How do you look your kids in the eye and not speak like me and say what I do?
How do you care about your country and not talk like Nick Fuentes?
How can you say that you would go to war and die for this nation when you are not even willing to do something as simple as just say the truth?
You know, and so I think there's just a lot of fake masculinity out there where, of course, everyone knows I've actually been, I'm actually writing a book on masculinity and I'm a very, very masculine guy.
You know what I mean?
Very, very, very much so.
They call it camp masculinity.
No, no, no.
But I'm like, I always say, you know, if I'm the guy telling guys, what the fuck are you doing?
You're doing something very wrong.
I'm from LA.
I'm a California conservative.
You know what I mean?
So I shouldn't be the one warning people.
I do genuinely think, and I don't know what your thought is on this.
I think some of what our problem is, though, is a genuine chemical warfare that is lowering our testosterone levels.
A lot of like teenagers are like 200, 250, you know, test levels when it should be like 1,000, 1,100, right?
And the average, they've lowered it so much, the average like 400 or 500, which is half the testosterone that men had back in 1950.
And testosterone, it's not about, doesn't make you a man.
It's not like, oh, you're of a deep voice.
It makes you, you know, your sex drive high.
It makes your fearlessness, your confidence, right?
Your desire to fight and to die for a cause.
The intrinsic values of being a man, like those qualities are what test is related to.
I mean, it has a lot to do with modernity and just the way that the modern world is.
I mean, you can see why from a biological, sociological point of view, we have a system that does reward passivity, you know, because we have a system where in the old days, people were farming and working in factories and things like that.
And now people are like selling insurance.
And it's like, it's, you know, it drives me crazy.
Like, I want to put my hand through a monitor when I, and I don't even have to go to like a nine to five, you know?
And so you imagine what, what kind of society selects for people like this.
And you also have the feminism element, liberation of women.
That's a big part of it.
I mean, there's a lot of root causes, but at the end of the day, we could just start and stop with race is real.
We have to deal with the reality of race.
White people have to deal with the reality of race.
And even more, I sort of understand the plight of your average person who doesn't want to go out on a limb and be a racist and get canceled because, you know, people got to put food on the table.
You get it.
But it's more about the opinion makers.
I mean, it's somebody like Charlie Kirk and Benny Johnson.
It's actually their job.
They get paid to provide people with the information.
They get paid.
They're political spokespeople, influencers, leaders.
It's their responsibility.
And so that's why I get on the case of the political people, because if you set yourself up and say, I'm a political person, follow me.
I'm a truth teller.
I'm someone you should listen to.
I'm forming your opinion.
And you're omitting intentionally and withholding all the information.
You're lying for the sake of, you know, whatever they say, pragmatism, infiltration, whatever.
Well, you're the problem.
And this is where you need to set up a political movement that is parallel that is just not run on money that way.
Because someone like, you know, we're either going to get a pro-white billionaire.
You're either going to get a billionaire that doesn't like Israel and is pro-white and they're going to just float money to a parallel political movement.
Or you need to have a political movement of people that have a currency that's different than money, you know, a currency that's loyalty, that's piety, that is courage and telling the truth.
You know, that's actually a Catholic doctrine is courage and telling the truth and righteousness and telling the truth.
Because it's like I said, it's bound up in the system.
As long as you have a system that is based on money, then the political people are going to be people that the capital selects for, you know, that the biggest donors pay to run for president.
And those are the people that are going to be making the laws.
The people that are doing turning point, it's the people that have all the discretionary income of the billionaires.
To your point, you know, people have criticized you.
Like, oh, why are you focused on these turning point influencers?
Our government is now turning point influencers.
Like, that's not a joke.
These guys are running the FBI.
Like, I mean, this is what's really happening.
You know, but back on the race thing, I do want to talk a little bit more about that because this is serious because I almost got in big trouble for just talking about my race.
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I wanted to talk about the race stuff because we're talking about Charlie Kirk saying that America could be 90% Indian.
There's something that you say that probably is going to get me in trouble.
I'll get clipped out of the show that I really do agree with is that when a Western country is longer white, and people say Western to avoid saying white, a white country, right?
They say, oh, a Western nation.
It is no longer a Western nation.
The very definition of a Western nation is Western people, which is white people.
And when you remove those people, the culture changes.
It doesn't mean it's going to fall apart.
The USSR crumbled, but Russia still exists, right?
America as a nation still can exist.
And I got in trouble saying American is an ethnicity and a nationality.
You could be an American citizen, but not necessarily have an ethnic share in what's going on.
And I think black Americans are big on that.
They like to be separate.
They like to dog on each other if they're acting too white.
They create their own, you know, ebonics.
Well, I guess the Jews made their music, but still, they have their own culture.
I don't know.
I don't know what you think about that, but I feel like we're going towards a death battle that America will no longer be a Western nation very, very soon.
I mean, because when you say you're so right, I mean, about the deception, you say Western.
Okay, name some Western countries: France, England, Spain, Italy, Germany.
What do they all have in common?
Is there one non-European country that is Western?
I mean, if anything, Western is like a specific kind of white.
I mean, because there's three white nationalities.
If you go back to the old racialists, like Madison Grant from 100 years ago, there's three European white nationalities: there's Nords, Mediterranean, and Slavs, Alpanids.
You have three.
Western is really Nords.
I mean, it's mostly Nords, and you could say it's some meds.
But we never include, we talk about Western civilization, we're not talking about Russia.
We're not necessarily talking about all the Asiatic Slavs that are super far east.
You know, we're not talking about that.
When we say Western, we're talking about the Enlightenment.
We're talking about, in many cases, Protestant nations.
We're talking about the Renaissance.
We're talking about Western Europe.
And so they say Western is shorthand for white.
And so there was also a big debate 30 years ago, 100 years ago.
Can you have modernization without Westernization?
In other words, do you have to adopt Western culture, Western military uniforms, Western everything in order to modernize, in order to have industry, in order to have modern standards of living?
And you have different countries like Turkey and Japan that did westernize, you know, their Ataturk or the Meji Restoration and Turkey and Japan, and they did westernize.
But you look at these countries, and a country like Japan also just has a very high IQ.
And even though they have modernized, they have maintained a very different culture.
And you look around the world, has any other society had success with westernization or non-Westernization and modernized?
Country like Liberia has an American constitution.
Liberia was actually part of a colony by Americans to resettle black people.
Now it's actually the project.
Liberia, the capital is Monrovia.
It's named after President Monroe.
They have our constitution.
Is Liberia like America?
Is it like England?
Is it like Italy?
Or is it like the rest of Africa?
And so race is obviously deterministic.
They say Western, they say Christian, they say all these different things, and they're all shorthand for white.
They're all shorthand for the kinds of societies and the kinds of way of living that only white people has so far and some other exceptions been able to have or to discover.
So when you have a country that is no longer white, it's gonna, it's not only gonna be different, it's also gonna suck.
And we're not gonna want to live there.
So it just has to, at this point, I don't care about anything else.
People talk about the debt.
We could be a white country in debt.
You know, people talk about socialism.
We could be a white socialist country.
Anything would be preferable to being a non-white country because once that happens, it never gets reversed and it's irreparably destroyed.
You know, there's a good account on Twitter.
I forget the name of it.
Jared Taylor promoted it recently.
And it's an account that only reveals South Africa.
They take images from Google Maps and they show South Africa from 15 years ago and today.
And you should see the level of decline.
They'll show it just like a random corner.
15 years ago, the roads are paved, they're clean, you have sidewalks, you have amenities.
In a span of 10 or 15 years, weeds overgrown, covered in dust, shit everywhere.
I mean, literally garbage everywhere.
And that's in the span of 10 years.
You could probably do the same thing with Canada because Canada's become minority white.
And, you know, they've doubled the population with immigrants in the past 20 years.
You do the same thing in England.
You do the same thing in Paris.
There's actually a word for people that get depressed because they visit Paris and it's not what they thought it would be like because they think it's going to be a fairy tale and it's like a shithole.
You know, it's like a Libyan slum.
It's like a North African slum.
And so you look at these things and you get this visceral reaction.
This is what is being lost.
And people say, well, we need the people.
Trump, we need the people.
We need the immigrants to like grow the economy, grow the GDP.
But if the economy's bigger, but your neighborhood looks like South Africa or Libya, it's not worth it.
You know, we're the ones that are going to be affected.
And like you said, and this is the important point.
It's rapidly also becoming a class issue where the decision makers have enough money to live in white neighborhoods.
All the rich people, they don't live in black neighborhoods.
They don't live with immigrants.
They don't live in the ghetto.
They live in rich neighborhoods where it's mostly white people or only white people or very high IQ non-white people that, you know, that don't live like that.
It's us.
It's the middle class and the working class that are going to have to live among the diversity.
He writes extensively on a topic on X called the South Africanization of the West, right?
So it's an actual phrase.
It's also called being Zimbabwe because if you know Zimbabwe, you see what happens to Western countries, right?
But it's a South Africanization.
And a good example of where you're already seeing this in the U.S. extensively on a large scale is the city of Los Angeles because Los Angeles is, you know, everyone's like, oh, Democrats and the Hollywood elite.
Well, the Hollywood elite are a certain group of people, okay?
Let's be, let's be honest here.
And Los Angeles is the way that they run their city, right?
This is the way that they want to run things.
And that city is in shambles.
Like, I mean, and I grew up there.
There's no other place in the country that I've ever been to, except maybe around the ex offices in San Francisco that actually, it's like you're living in Mad Max.
You know, the police go on TV and say, hey, women, this literally happened recently, should stop carrying designer purses when you're outside.
And don't wear Rolex watches when you go to the city because they're like, you're just going to get mugged and we can't protect you.
It's like where they've accepted crime, right?
And it's not Democrat policies.
Let's be careful here.
This is the very, very dangerous self-hatred anti-white policies are all over all over LA.
But you go to West LA, you know, you go to North LA.
It's like you're living in the nicest place in the entire world, you know, so you can travel 15 minutes down the road.
The problem is, is like what happened during BLM?
Beverly Hills got sacked.
However that Santa Monica got sacked, right?
So you can protect yourself, but at a certain point, you know, it will creep up onto you.
When you allow these, these slums and these people to like accumulate, you know, they become bitter.
What happened during the fires?
They started ransacking the homes, right?
You have this really weird place.
And I don't think that our founding fathers, you know, founded this country so that we could have black people loot our stores when they're mad because a criminal, you know, killed himself.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't know.
I just, that is a good example.
And it's called South Africanization.
And that's what our whole country is becoming.
So if you're rich, you still live in America.
But if you're unfortunate enough to be middle class or lower middle class, you have to live with the shit stain, you know?
And it's, and it's, and I don't want that because that's just gay.
It's like, oh, you got to be a millionaire to actually enjoy this country.
And on the point of LA, you go to central LA, you go to like the garment district, and it's like Mad Max.
It's like escape from New York, literally.
And that's not even an exaggeration.
Like every, every building is like blighted, covered in graffiti.
There's no storefronts, except for you'll find like a smoke shop.
Like that's the only thing that's open, a subway, and it's homeless people everywhere with like open fires and trash cans.
And like you said, then I was in the Palisades like two weeks before it burned down.
And I was joking with a buddy of mine, a buddy of mine said, Palisades is probably the nicest neighborhood because this is the one the blacks haven't discovered yet because there's no mall with like designer stores there.
They just kind of leave it alone.
They just don't go up there.
And you're right.
It's like heaven on earth.
But you drive 30 minutes away and it's hell on earth.
And the distinction is wealth.
You create a bifurcated society where the poor people have to live with the diversity.
The working class has to live with the diversity.
And there's just no meaningful quality of life.
And then you're a millionaire and then you live in heaven.
And, you know, that's just not the kind of society that anybody wants to live in.
And to your point, I mean, it's so funny because Vivek, his big thing is like the Founding Fathers.
He's like a big, oh, I read the Federalist Papers and I know all about the Founding Fathers.
Okay, well, the Founding Fathers were all white supremacists.
You know, the Founding Fathers were all racist.
They own slaves.
He loves Thomas Jefferson.
Okay, Thomas Jefferson owned non-white people as property.
And that was also, by the way, the consensus view of American presidents up until Harry Truman, which is that, you know, we don't want to, up until the time of the end of slavery, they said, well, maybe we don't own the black people, but we don't live alongside them in equality.
Like even up until Abraham Lincoln and beyond, they said, we're going to free the slaves, then they're going to go back to Africa.
They never intended to live alongside them in equality.
Then after that, there were people that weren't necessarily racist or maybe didn't hate them, but they said they didn't want, once again, to live alongside them in equality.
They didn't want the diversity.
So it's like, which founding fathers are you talking about?
But they want to retcon it and they want to say, oh, well, that was just the problem of their time.
Well, that's, okay, so then you're not really about the founding fathers.
You've sort of invented your own narrative, which is that the founding fathers were 21st century liberals.
And they believe that, you know, we're all clean slaves.
It's like, what do you think the Founding Fathers would think of you, pal?
You think they would say, hey, bring you and your whole family.
We don't care about race.
We don't see race.
We just want a meritocracy.
I mean, they literally said, because Alexander Hamilton wanted to amend the Constitution to say you had to be a Christian to run for office so that Thomas Jefferson couldn't run.
But they said it was redundant because at that time, they're thinking, well, who else is going to run for president other than white Christians?
Okay, well, welcome to 2025 when you got an Indian anchor baby who doesn't even believe in God running for president.
That's where we're at.
So, you know, look, it's just a question of what kind of country do you want to live in?
We need to give ourselves permission to say that we want to live in a country people are familiar.
And like, that's something that people forget.
It feels good to be with people that are familiar.
You feel comfortable.
You feel at ease.
And it's not to say white people never commit crimes or white people never betray you, but you see a face and on a biological level, you prefer faces that are like yours, that are familiar.
They say that on a genetic level, on average, people marry someone with a genetic similarity of their second or third cousin, with genetic similarity.
And as I said, I said in the beginning, it's the uncancellation of Nicholas Fuentes 2025.
And someone can steal the documentary idea and track along with him as he gets uncanceled.
But and then all of a sudden, I'm going to laugh so hard when like someday you're like speaking on a stage at a turning point and everyone's like, dude, we never come on.
Everyone's just jeering at him and laughing at him.
It's like, hey, it could be that.
But no, but that being said, on the flip back to the race stuff, I just say this, you know, it's not about being based.
It's not about being red-pilled.
It is about survival.
And also, it's about doing what's right and good for your people.
You know, I don't need to pretend.
Like, black people, when they get money, don't even want to live around black people.
Okay.
Like, that's a proven fact.
And people go, well, you know, you can spend years and years and try to explain everything.
Look, the countries in the world, when colonization was running, in fact, I'm not just about like, we want to run our own countries.
We should be running all the countries.
That's my personal opinion is that black people would be better off from Africa.
Someone said if we were running it, someone goes, oh, well, European for the Europeans.
Is it African for the Africans?
You go to live, but not for their resources.
You know what I mean?
It's African resources for the Europeans.
We are smarter communities.
We were more advanced.
Everyone, even China, just ripped off our technology, right?
I mean, like, they're ahead in advance, but that's based off of stealing our economic intellectual property.
And so that's great.
But look at what's still going on.
Who's the main players in the world?
It's pretty much just white countries.
You got Russia, right?
I mean, that's a little bit, you know, mixed, but you got Russia, you got the United States, you got the five eyes, New Zealand, Australia.
Like basically, the British Empire still exists.
It's just they run their own governments, right?
So it's like the monarchy basically failed.
And maybe what the West needs is a universal monarchy.
Maybe we need to go back under something that can unite us together beyond what we have.
I do not think, though, and I'll say this, I do not think, I do not think that there is any saving the system in the United States per chance and where it's at.
There would have to be something radical happen, a radical shakeup.
Because when you have like black women like Crockett, oh, she's such a, she's so retarded.
I hate the immigration here because it's man, it's so hard to see.
If you watch, go watch a video in Melbourne in Australia.
I know you're not, you know, I talked to you about that.
You handed some harsh words to the very own Joel Davis.
Yes.
We don't need to talk about that right now.
But listen, it's so depressing what's happening in Australia.
People say, why do I care?
I care about white Western countries.
Okay.
I do.
And my kids are citizens, you know, and my wife is a citizen, right?
And my family's over there.
But it is a beautiful white country.
And the reason why it's so crazy is it was founded actually as a white nationalist country like the United States, right?
It was created as a colony for whites.
In fact, up until about 75 years ago, they had what was called the White Australia policy, which meant, it didn't mean you weren't a human.
It just meant like, you know, there's zero tolerance if you're living here and you're not white.
Like once you're gone, right?
One little thing, you're gone.
You also can't do chain migration.
You don't get the benefits.
You also might not have an easy path to citizenship.
And when we're recruiting people to move here, we are intentionally avoiding non-white countries.
That's what it means if people don't know a white Australia policy.
Non-whites lived there.
But the way that that worked was there was a point where enough Chinese people were moving and they needed help building.
And they brought in Chinese people and they started bringing in their families.
And then they all just went like, no.
And then they just said, well, we're Australians.
This is a big thing.
And they go, no, you're not Australians.
You were here for a purpose to help us build.
You got to go.
And from my understanding, I thought sometimes they just threw them out in boats.
I think they sunk them.
But anyway, they sent them all back.
And they were like, hey, we got to bring down the number of Asians because we don't want to be an Asian country.
It's a very big parliamentary thing.
It was like, we're not China.
We don't want to be China.
But you go there today.
It's hard in City of Melbourne.
Shout out to Queensland, to Brisbane and stuff, which is still looks like Australia.
It's hard to find a white person.
And there's no culture.
There's no affinity for anything.
It feels like you're in a bank or something.
It feels like you're in a casino.
You're in a casino.
It's like just like the weirdest looking people and everyone's trying to make money.
And it's like, yeah, it's a casino.
And to me, it feels like that's what you're going into.
And it's such a weird thing because you see Western buildings and, you know, there's, you know, McDonald's and all this stuff, but it's just like Qing Jong bing bongs.
You know what I mean?
Like just, it's crazy.
Like everyone is a fucking Chinese and an Indian.
And it's like, and now in Australia, the most popular name in Australia is now an Indian last name too.
And you're going, and I saw this video.
I don't know if you saw that.
I posted it with like the citizenship.
There's like all these people, no white people at all, like 700 of them.
And the guy at the end is like, all right, you're all Australians now.
And you're like, really?
Because I went there and that shit's fucked.
And I just, I look at that.
And that's why people say, well, why do you talk about race?
I don't want that.
You know what I mean?
I don't like South Florida.
I really don't.
We got to talk about that scam of it.
It's like, this is not, Florida's not some like Republican like safety zone.
It's like the most multicultural, diverse, and as you saw, DeSantis, anti-free speech state.
He's one of the few governors who put laws in place to restrict free speech here.
What do you think about DeSantis and the stuff going on with Tate?
Yeah, well, you know, this is the conceit of conservatism.
You know, and a lot of people, I remember I got in a little bit of a beef with Keith Woods over this, actually, over voting for Trump.
You know, and you voted for Trump.
You disagreed with people that didn't.
But Keith said, well, because he conceded a lot of the things that I was saying about Trump, which is that Trump was going to let in the immigrants, wasn't going to do mass deportations, might get us into war with Iran.
But he said, at the end of the day, it is worth it to vote for Trump because he will protect free speech.
And in Vance will protect free speech.
But there's always an asterisk when it comes to Republicans because there's one issue where they're worse than the Democrats on when it comes to free speech, and that is Israel and talking about Jews.
And so even during the election, there was a project from Heritage Foundation, which is one of the biggest conservative think tanks.
They wrote Project 2025.
It's called Project Esther.
Project Esther, Heritage Foundation.
And it says, anyone that sympathizes with the Palestinians, anyone that criticizes Israel is part of the Hamas Support Network, the HSN, because that's what they do.
If you don't want to see innocent people getting blown to smithereens, if you don't want to give Israel three aircraft carriers to kill everybody, you're a terrorist sympathizer.
You're a terrorist.
You're a Hamas support network.
And so what the project says is they will use government-private sector partnerships to go after anybody that supports Palestine.
They even say we will use anti-terrorism laws, immigration laws, hate speech laws where applicable.
This is a conservative nonprofit.
Heritage Foundation says we will use hate speech laws to go after people that sympathize with Palestinians.
You can look it up.
Project Esther, it's still on their website.
And what did they start to do when Trump got in?
Anti-Semitism Awareness Act.
They are now depriving Colombia of $400 million of federal monies because Colombia tolerates anti-Semitism.
Yeah, Ron DeSantis went to Israel to sign a law that says we're adopting the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance definition of anti-Semitism.
Back in 2021, when Trump got banned on Twitter and YouTube and Facebook, Texas and Florida both passed free speech laws trying to fight big tech.
Florida passed a toothless law, and I happen to knew people that were involved in the creation of the law.
The reason the law didn't go far enough to protect all free speech on the internet is because then it might protect anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial.
And now people are so surprised.
Wait, the state where Woke goes to die, where you have the base anti-lockdown governor?
They're coming after Andrew Tate.
How does that make sense?
It's because Tate criticized Israel.
And so, and by the way, Florida, and people, again, you have to think about the composition of the country.
There are three hotspots of Jews in America.
LA, New York, and South Florida, Miami, Broward County.
Okay, these are like the Jewish hotspots in America.
You know, I'm just saying, this is like about as Jewish as it gets.
And we were joking about that, that this is the safest place to live in World War III because they are not bombing South Florida.
Like this is going to be the safest place in the entire, in the entire world.
I want to keep talking about this topic and we're going to talk about a few other very crucial things.
But as you guys know, about halfway through the show, we usually take a break to let you guys go take a piss or whatever you need to do.
And so we should take a few minutes.
But before we do that, just reminding you guys, we are demonetized on YouTube.
I mean, what's so crazy is we have about 9,000 watching live on Rumble with what?
You know, 50,000 followers.
We have like 900 watching live on a channel with 550,000 on YouTube, right?
And we don't even put your name in it.
Like that channel's just throttled.
Like that's that's fucking crazy.
But that being said, unlike some people who like capitulated and just went, oh, I'm getting censored.
I'm going to start doing art streams now because I don't want to talk about politics.
And I'm going to take a DNA test and find out I'm Jewish and then change my entire worldview, but I might change it back again.
Instead of doing that, some of us just double down and like, you know, maybe I'll play a little bit of a different game, but we try to speak the truth.
And obviously, having Nick on always causes problems for me.
It really does.
It's no pea party, but I don't give a fucking, I don't give a shit because I love, I love, I love, Nick's a good friend, and I think he's been one of the truest people to his own beliefs.
We openly disagree about, you know, some topics, but when it comes to like values, I always remind people when everybody turned on me and fucking started lying and slandering me and spreading shit, there was one person who immediately took a hit.
And we talked about this.
Real friends are there to take a hit when it can cost them something.
It doesn't matter for me.
So I'm like, oh, I love your show.
I want to come on.
Well, now it doesn't matter, but if someone's saying bad things about me and it can hurt your reputation, would you still defend me?
And he did.
And that always stood out to me.
All these, you know, virtue signalers that are like, you know, Christ is king is anti-Semitic.
They would, they wouldn't just step on you.
They would toss you to the wolves.
They would grab you and they're trying to kill you.
But Nick's a man of morals and of good character.
I can vouch for that.
And also, while I'm a little bit of a degenerate myself, Nick's one of the only people I know that says he's not a degenerate and actually isn't, right?
Like, you know, people be like, I'm a Muslim.
And then they're just like getting fucking wasted with you the night before.
You know, and you're like, I mean, hey, look, we all sin, but like, why are you pretending like you don't drink when you drink?
You know, it's kind of weird shit, right?
I think people are weird like that.
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People can find your show where, again, I want to put it in the chat: rumble rumble.com/slash Nick J Fuentes.
All right, I want to talk about, we were talking about some of this stuff.
And your chat makes me laugh because I think I saw one thing.
It's really hard to read because they write so much.
But he was like, it's been 45 minutes and I haven't heard about Jews.
Please get back to what we want to hear about.
That's crazy.
But also, I understand.
I do want to talk about some of this stuff.
I want to get back to the talk, talk about this infiltration and what's really going on at these levels.
You know, anti-Semitism, I mean, to give the credit to these guys, has kind of been mainstreamed.
And unfortunately, like, it has been mainstreamed, but the fact is, is like, you know, a lot of these people are the free Palestine, right?
This whole idea of like, you know, Israel's bad.
However, my belief is that, you know, what's not, I don't think you're anti-Semitic.
I honestly don't think you are.
I really don't think.
I think you, I think, in fact, maybe more Jewish people like you than you'd like.
You know, I think you speak truth and honesty about a real issue.
And I brought it up in the beginning of that we can tiptoe like how we could, you know, call whites anything we want.
We can tip toe on like, why don't all of our Western nations collectively work for us?
An example would be in the United Kingdom.
I don't know if you saw, they just codified that one of the guidelines for the magistrates to lower the possibility of jail sentencing is that you are a non-white.
So it's, I know, we all know that woke stuff has been involved, but why would a country like England make a policy that would make restrictions five to 10 years in prison for standing near a protest wanting to make sure your people are treated fairly, but you could go stab someone, you get released on bail because you're brown.
Why would they do that?
Well, maybe why would white people do that to themselves, right?
But here's a simple heuristic, which everybody, I think, intuitively understands.
If you go on Twitter and you talk about Qatar or the United Arab Emirates running our country or Saudi Arabia or Iran, you get in any trouble.
If you go on Twitter and say the TRIGOM's runner, it's the UN, it's Agenda 21, Millennium Development Goal.
Do you get fired from your job?
Do you get stalked and harassed for the rest of your life?
People demanding an apology?
What about when you say it about Muslims?
What about, you know, of course not.
No, it's only when you say one group.
And, you know, people attribute it to Voltaire.
People say to find who rules over you, ask who you're not allowed to criticize.
Voltaire never said that, and it's not 100% true, but it's a good heuristic.
If you are criticizing somebody and then get in trouble, that person probably has power over you.
If you can't criticize a group, that means that group probably has power over you.
And so I also think it's just a false sort of framing to say how much of it is them, like what percentage.
It's enough to say that Jews act collectively.
Let's just put it simply like that.
Jews, unlike white people, act collectively.
And that means that they're organized.
There's like 50 plus Jewish federations, organizations.
They're all put together in North America.
They call it the North American Jewish Federation.
And it's all the different Jewish groups.
And there's a group of European Jews and there's a world Zionist group and there's a world Jewish Congress.
They act collectively.
Let's say something else about Jewish people.
Not only do they act in an organized way and collectively, but they're also transnational or international.
Germans are in Germany.
English people are in England.
French people are in France.
Jewish people are in all these places.
They're in all the European capitals.
They're in some of the other countries because the Europeans used to own those countries as colonies.
So they're in Brazil.
They're in Mexico.
They're in Argentina.
And let's say something else about them.
They're organized.
They're transnational.
Are they more loyal to their host countries or to themselves?
Clearly, they're more loyal to themselves.
They're loyal to Israel.
They're loyal to Jews as a group.
They don't identify with the host population.
If you say a Jewish person's white, in some circumstances, they'll say, I'm white.
In others, they'll say, no, no, I'm not white.
I'm not Christian.
I'm not European.
I'm Jewish.
So they don't identify with us.
They're in every country.
They act as a group.
And are they powerful?
Yes, they're one of the most affluent groups in America.
They earn the most money.
They have the most prestigious jobs.
There's many Jewish billionaires.
They're the top hedge fund managers.
They own record labels, talent firms, talent agencies, Hollywood studios, media conglomerates.
Well, now you're beginning to understand your problem.
And the question is, do you want people running the country?
Do you want people to have power in the country that are from the country, of the country, loyal to the country?
Or do you want people that have the power to be outside the country or loyal to another country or loyal to somebody else?
And if you looked at how America has been run or the West has been run over the past century, you could easily say someone is running the West that doesn't love the West.
Someone, the way that the West is being run, it seems like the people running it aren't doing a very good job.
They must hate the people here or they might not even care about the people here.
Is that consistent with the fact that everywhere you look in the West, you have powerful people acting as a group that don't identify with those populations that are instead loyal to some other country or the group?
Yeah, I think you could say that.
And people say that's conspiratorial or hateful or false.
When you lay it out in very logical terms like that, these are all accurate things you could say about the Jewish community in the Western world.
And when you say it, you get banned, censored.
I mean, you know, Elijah, you said I'm not anti-Semitic.
By whose definition?
Because the legal definition in most states, the legal definition of the State Department, the CIA, includes if you think that Jews killed Jesus Christ.
Well, I'm sorry, that's the gospel.
In the definition used by the State Department in most states, the legal definition, it says if you think Jews are more loyal to Israel than their host country, you're an anti-Semite.
Well, we know in many cases that's true.
If you think that they operate around the world, that they're transnational, you're an anti-Semite.
Well, we know they do.
So when we say anti-Semitic, that's shorthand for like, oh, you hate Jews for being Jewish.
But anyway, yeah, it's like you're like, it's the Jews.
We cut them off.
No, no, no, no.
But you're explaining this, right?
Like, but this is, this is all I want to know.
Why?
Well, I agree with you 100% because there's two topics that are off topic.
This is what I always think is weird.
Being proud to be white or anything that's pro-white or anything that's anti-Jewish, right?
It's really can summarize the boundaries.
Someone said, like, where are the boundaries?
I go, if you want to be successful in conservative incorporated, don't do things that help white people and don't do anything that could hurt Jewish people.
And it's related because, you know, when you think about it from a strategic point of view, Jews are the smallest minority or one of the smallest minorities in the country.
They're 2% of the population.
And if you know anything about the history of Europe, you know that Jews have been kind of kicked around in Europe for a long time.
They've been kicked out of countries, segregated, subject to inquisitions, things like this.
And so Jews, if you know anything about them, there's a sense of the collective that is under threat.
And that goes all the way back to the biblical times, whether they're in Egypt, whether they're under the Babylonian captivity or whether they're in the Roman Empire.
And so if you're Jewish, if you're in a country where everyone is the same race and you're the outsider, everyone's the same religion and you're the outsider, does that put you in a very good position?
Because if the white people turn on you, it's England 1290, it's Spain 1492, it's Russia during the Pale of Settlement.
It's not going well for you.
If you're in a country where it's very tolerant of diversity, tolerant of religions, tolerant of different races, that's a lot better for you.
And so wouldn't you know that the multicultural melting pot myth, you know, people say America's the melting pot, that comes from a Jewish person whose stated goal was to advance diversity in America because then it would promote tolerance for Jewish people.
If a country is multiracial, multi-ethnic, poly-religious, that's obviously a better dynamic for Jewish people than if it's the other way around.
And so that's why you'll find, I mean, even this is something I like to say on my show a lot.
Years ago, there was a debate between a prominent rabbi and Brett Stevens, who's a columnist at the New York Times.
But Brett Stevens, he's in a debate with a rabbi years ago, and the subject of the debate is, is Trump good for the Jews?
Which is like a funny question to begin with because, you know, all the time they like to say, well, we're individuals.
When Jeffrey Epstein goes and does this thing, they say, well, why don't you just say he's a shitty human being?
We have a problem with shitty human beings.
What difference does it make?
He's Jewish.
Well, then they do a debate and say, is Trump good for the Jews?
I thought that wasn't a thing.
Anyway, Brett Stevens says in the debate, and this is coming from a Jewish neocon, pro-Israel columnist, he says, well, Trump is antithetical.
This is a quote.
He says, to the liberal international principles that have been so good for us as Jews.
They say it all the time.
They've been saying it for centuries.
They just say, and it's obvious.
And so when you have the conservative movement is basically run by Jewish people, you know, or pro-Israel people, Zionists, and they will always draw the line at race and say, well, America's not just for Christians.
Well, why would a Jewish person say that?
They're not Christian.
They say America's not just for white people.
Well, they're not white.
They don't identify as white.
And so it's very simple.
They have been promoting liberalism, even you could go back to Baruch Spinoza, biblical criticism.
They've been promoting these things for a very long time.
You go back to the first one, Baruch Spinoza, his parents were involved in the Spanish War of Succession.
They fled Spain into France because they were trying to topple the monarchy with someone who is more pro-Jewish.
And, you know, so this goes back like hundreds and hundreds of years.
They said we're against the Bible because the Bible bolsters the kings, the Catholic monarchs like in France or Spain that are against Jewish people.
So this goes back hundreds of years that they have been at war with the church, the Roman church, and they have been at war with white people.
It's a, you know, Kevin McDonald says it's a group evolutionary strategy.
And you put yourselves in their shoes.
It only makes sense.
I mean, you can empathize and say, if you're a little Jewish boy growing up and everyone's celebrating Christmas and you're like, huh, well, why don't I celebrate Christmas?
It's this like alienation.
A lot of them go to Jewish schools.
A lot of them, you know, they dress differently.
Their parents, they have a totally different upbringing.
They're alienated from the rest of us.
And the trick is this.
We can understand why black people don't trust white people, don't identify with white people.
But they wear it on their skin that they're black.
Well, what if you had a group of white people that felt like black people, felt a little resentment, a little alienation from white people from America, for that matter, from Jesus Christ, but they look like us and they kind of blend in.
Well, then it's sort of problematic.
And, you know, the last thing I'll say, because I don't want to ramble too much.
Well, one of the accusers, one of those girls who was abused by Jelaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein, she says they're Jewish supremacists.
She says, they treated me like garbage because I wasn't Jewish.
She said, Jelaine Maxwell told me, this is a Jewish country club.
You're not one of us.
She said, they think they're smarter than us.
They think because that we're not Jewish, they're better than us.
From the horse's mouth, that's from one of Jeffrey Epstein's accusers.
So you ask yourself, what's really going on with Epstein?
What's really the deal?
Well, you could go into the facts and you could say that he was brought up by Charles Bronfman and Les Wexner, two Jewish billionaires who raised money for Israel, who helped some of the various prime ministers in Israel.
You could look at the facts.
People say, well, they were involved with a lot of intelligence agencies.
What about the fact that they're all the same ethnicity?
And they tell their people they're sexually trafficking.
It's a Jewish country club.
You're not one of us.
We're better than you.
We're smarter than you.
At a certain point, you have to trust them when they tell you who they are.
You have to take them at their word.
And that's the case when you look at Daily Wire.
Is that the, is that a Jewish country club?
When you look at CPAC, turning point, is that a Jewish country?
You know, it sort of is.
And a lot of them, I mean, they literally raise money.
They do a big fundraiser every year at the Breakers, not far from where we are.
Do you know right here, actually, speaking of, you said the Jewish country club, if you go right up the street, it's insane how much this area, they call it the colony, right?
They literally call this whole area the colony.
And there is a Jewish flag, not a small one.
The ones, you know, those big American flags that hang off fire trucks when like a fireman dies that are just, you know, inspire you.
It's just a giant Israeli flag with the Star of David flying in the middle of the city.
And you go, this is when I really realized where I lived.
Nobody had Christmas lights at Christmas.
And it was like, this is one of the most affluent areas in the country, actually.
The highest median home prices.
An average like middle-class homeless area is like $3.5 million.
It's a very, very wealthy area.
And there's no, that's not a coincidence.
You know what I mean?
But we also have the largest like Jewish association is actually here other than in New York.
It's crazy, a giant campus.
And it's like you walk around here, but you know what my wife says?
My wife is very based.
You know, like there's a lot of girls with plastic surgery because they change their noses and stuff, right?
And so there's this woman with breasts the size of volleyballs.
And Mike sent it in because it wasn't creepy.
It was just like, this is a crazy person at the gym that's like, you know, mutilated.
And I showed it to my wife and I go, what is this?
Is this narcissism?
And she's like, no, it's Judaism.
Because she was like saying, like, these people just carved themselves up here.
It really is true.
Everyone's getting plastic surgery.
However, the real issue is my wife, my wife told me, she's like, I don't want to live here anymore.
I go, why?
And she says, the Jewish woman won't talk.
They don't talk to you.
They don't want even to be a part of you.
When you tell them that you're Christian or whatever, they don't want to be your friend.
They only want to be friends with Jewish people.
And it's really hard to make friends when people already just don't like you because you're white.
And you say, you know, they don't even know what my husband does for a living yet.
And she goes, what was scary to me was there was this little Jewish kid with his hat on, you know, at the playground, probably like four years old.
And he came up to talk to me about his boyfriend, you know?
And she's like, we can't have our kids around people that think that that's normal.
Like, that's not just like worldliness.
She was like, this is, this place is devoid of life.
It is, it is rich, but has like no community unless you're Jewish, right?
That's like every, it's my wife who always says that, like, where's the people?
I'm like, walking on the sidewalks on a Saturday.
But when you live, it doesn't feel like you're in America.
It feels like you're like in Sydney or something.
That same idea of like a Western country, but devoid of that American spirit.
And the reason why is it's confusing because everyone looks like you.
They look like me.
So you're going, this is a very white area.
Why does it not feel like we're in a white country?
And it's because it's 52% Jewish in Boca.
And where I live in this area, it's like over 70%.
Okay.
It's over 70% Jewish.
And so we have 17 synagogues, I believe.
I mean, this is a crazy ass place.
What the fuck did Peter have me move here?
I had no idea what this place was before I got here.
But I bring this up in saying, you know, it could potentially be dangerous for you being around here.
You know what I mean?
It's true.
You're in Israel.
This is the highest concentration of Jewish people other than in Tel Aviv.
They quote Carl Schmidt, who was actually part of the Nazis at one point.
So controversial.
But they always quote him.
And Carl Schmidt, I don't agree with him on everything, but he says the essence of politics is the distinction between us and them.
When we talk about politics, it's about grouping and it's about team sports.
When we say we, who's the we, who's the they?
And he says one of the biggest, this is the part they don't ever quote, the Straussians.
He says, the biggest mistake you can make is to get it wrong.
Who's inside the we, if you get one of the them inside the we?
Because then they undermine you and they subvert you.
And that's sort of what's happening, which is that we say Judeo-Christian and we talk about, you know, Abrahamic religions and we talk about the West and we include Jews in that.
You know, when you go to a synagogue, do Jews include Catholics in that?
The Jews say, us Jews and those Catholics that we love.
I mean the reason that that you know there's a particular racial slur for Jews is it's Hebrew for circle, and they say circle because when they came to Ellis Island, you know, they put a check around their name.
They put an X, a cross, and they said no, don't put a cross there because that's how much they hate Jesus Christ.
So they put a circle instead, and that's where you get the racial slur for Jewish people.
And in Israel they don't use a plus sign when they do addition, not making this up, they don't use a plus sign because it's a cross.
Now, these are people that like, they're not just not Christian, they're against Christians.
They're not just not white, they don't even like white people.
I'll give you another example.
This is from, once again, the horse's mouth they're telling on themselves.
People say, I'm a hater, Josh Hammer.
Josh Hammer is a very influential Conservative.
He was at Daily Wire.
He's at National Conservatism now with Yoram Hazoni.
National Conservatism is where DeSantis speaks.
Josh Hawley, Vance.
They say they're all based over there.
Josh Hammer's with them.
He's with American Moment as well.
American Moment is staffing the Trump administration.
Josh Hammer said that anti-Semitism is part of Europeans' DNA.
But she's like, well, sometimes, but sometimes I am in different circumstances.
Not only do they not see themselves as white or Christian, they think that whites and Christians hate them.
And, you know, we did that debate with Adam King and Vince and Gavin.
And Adam King is a rabbinical Jew who works at Infowars.
He's actually a Kabbalist, a Kabbalah.
You know, Kabbalah.
That's where Kabbal comes from.
When you say, you know, they go and say, oh, you think a Kabbal of Jewish people have this conspiracy to run the government?
What's the etymology of the word Kabbalah, which is like a secretive group that runs the world?
Kabbalah, which is Jewish mysticism, which comes from the Zohar and some of these other esoteric Jewish texts.
And anyway, so we were in a debate with a Kabbalist, and he was arguing about why we should be pro-Israel and all this.
And Vince asked him, if you could wipe off one religion off the planet and make it extinct, what would it be?
Catholicism or Islam?
And he said, Catholicism, not Islam.
This is a, this is a Kabbalistic Jew said, I would wipe out Christianity.
And he said, and he had all this, yeah, if you have the clip, all this invective against the Catholic Church saying the Catholic Church stole our library.
And when they believe when their Messiah comes, they're going to destroy the Catholic Church.
Why?
One, because the Catholic Church is Jesus' church, but also because the Catholic Church is the successor to Rome.
What remains out of the Roman Empire?
It's not Byzantium anymore.
It's not the Holy Roman Empire.
It's the Roman church.
It's the bishop of Rome, the Pope.
And why do they hate Rome?
Because Rome destroyed the temple in the first century.
Rome expelled the Jews from the Holy Land in the second century.
So you think all these Jews that are so fanatical about returning to Israel, populating Israel, defending Israel, what do you think they believe about the empire that expelled them from the land and destroyed their temple in the first place?
They hate it.
And they view Europeans and European society and the Catholic Church and Christendom as Rome.
And that's how they view it in their messianic religion.
Look at Senator Rick Scott's latest ex post flag behind him.
Check the comments low.
It's catching on like wildfire.
Could bring that up as well.
We'll play the clip of what happened with this guy.
But I was just thinking about the fact that that guy literally is like famous now.
And this is like a famous thing that is now sort of cemented as like these people showing themselves to be true.
And the reason why I was laughing about this is I sat down with one of the wealthiest and one of the more powerful people in media for a lunch.
And I talked to him about this because he's like, hey, what's up with your Jew hatred and anti-Semitism?
And I said, you know, I'm not a Jew hater and I'm not anti-Semitic.
Let me explain to you.
I go all the way down, explaining to him about the temple and trying to get their relics back from what they believe are in the Vatican and everything like that.
He's like, he's like looking around as if he's saying the end rhythm is a black person.
He's like, you don't ever feel like you're in danger talking about this stuff?
I go, why?
Because it's all true.
And these people don't want people to know what's really going on.
I go, yeah, so now you see, it's not really, it's not really, I'm not a Jew hater, but they do hate me, right?
So I'm actually a victim of hate.
And I'm just, I'm just, I just want my country back, right?
I'm not trying to ruin anyone's life, but you know, people, people do say the Romans kicked them out, but never talk about the history of what happened that led them to get kicked out, right?
It's not, let's just say this.
It may not be the first or the last time this group of people misbehaved, right?
Adam, if you were to get rid of two religions, okay, if you were given the choice or you, you had to get rid of one religion and it was Islam or Catholicism, which one would you get rid of?
He just admitted, and this is what we've been trying to tell you for a long time, Gavin.
They would rather get rid of Catholicism if they were given the choice between Islam and Catholicism.
They would choose to get rid of Catholicism.
Just like they would choose to get rid of white people in white nations and replace them with Muslims.
Because they view, hold on a second here.
Just like they would happily replace white people with Muslims in white countries because they think that white people are a greater threat to them and to their survival than diverse populations full of Muslims.
happening in london as just like brett steven says he says that a diverse gavin let's talk about it Let's really talk about it.
Don't be like that.
Don't abandon me.
We were impressed with 2,000 years.
You were retrieving the lost artifacts of the Jewish people, which are held by the Vatican.
I go, okay, I'll do it because I'm loyal like that.
And if someone that's helping me out asks me to do something, I'll usually do them a favor.
But I do, ask Gavin why he's hiring people that are trying to kill you.
I didn't know about this.
I actually do know about this.
I actually do know about this.
And it's me.
I'm here to kill you.
No, but jokes aside here, that is so fucking crazy.
And this is my experience with these people is like, is that I'll say this.
Mark Loebliner, who's Jewish, who's a good friend of mine, actually told us while we were at his house in, I won't say where actually, at his house.
Nice big mansion.
And he told us, he was like, you know, you got a point here about this because the Jews I know that are atheists, you know, they're not atheists because atheists just don't believe in God.
He goes, the Jews I know, they hate God because he's converted to Christianity.
So he's like, he's like, they hate Jesus, man.
Like, they hate God.
It's like they're actually like they're vitriolic against him.
And I think that's where you have to realize this is also a very spiritual thing, right?
Because people forget that verse at the end of the gospels where God hardens their hearts again, right?
And we talked about this before together.
He hardened their hearts.
So there's something like spiritually dead about this group of people that that's why they're into witchcraft and all these weird blood libel and sacrifice, all this strange stuff.
God, yes, were they God's chosen people?
Yes.
Who's the chosen people?
Now it's the church.
But also, it's not like they just got left alone.
The only other place in the Bible that I know of where we diametrically saw the same wording of hardening the heart was with Pharaoh when God hardened his heart against God.
And even when all the plagues came, no matter how many horrible things happened, these plagues, he still wouldn't let the people go, right?
He ended up losing his own son in the process.
I think we're seeing a similar thing with this group of people that they're spiritually dead and that this is why no matter where they go and what they do, they seem to cause problems.
And I think it's like a thorn in the flesh of humanity.
I don't know what the purpose is for that.
Like, I don't know why God would do that.
I don't know if you agree with me, but I think this is a spiritual thing.
There's no way a group of people gets kicked out of 109 countries unless there's something spiritual going on.
I think they still play a role in the history of salvation, the history of the church.
I mean, it was them putting Jesus on the cross, which is what caused the passion.
You know, Jesus being betrayed by his own people who bear false witness to kill the truth.
I mean, because Jesus is the truth incarnate.
They lied.
It was false witness.
It was his own people.
It was treachery, which is the gravest sin.
And, you know, and then they've played such an extreme role in the past 2,000 years.
I actually think it's sort of interesting the kind of benchmarks that have happened.
Like literally the 11th century, 1,000 years after the crucifixion, you have the schism.
500 years after that, you have the Reformation.
500 years after that, 2,000 years after the crucifixion of Christ, you have the Zionist movement and the Jews returned to Israel at the tail end of the second millennium, the 2000s, or I should say the first millennium, the 1000s, the teens.
I think they still play a role.
And I think there's a reason that they are sort of the antagonistic element.
You know, it's like I was talking about earlier.
We have to talk about the concept of Rome.
Rome is a very powerful concept in the history of humanity.
This is why you have the Holy Roman Empire.
This is why the Byzantine Empire claimed to be the inheritor of Rome.
This is why we call the Russian monarch the Tsar.
Tsar is Caesar.
And all these different countries, even America thought it was the new Rome.
You know, there's all these references to Rome.
The Jews are very preoccupied with the idea of Rome.
We don't think, you know, and there's like a meme that like white people think about the Roman Empire.
White guys are always thinking about the Roman Empire.
I don't think a lot of people do, but Jewish people do.
Jewish people, their holidays are about the Jewish revolt and the Jewish wars against the Roman Empire.
They think a lot about this.
And there's all this debate throughout the ages of what is the modern Rome.
I literally, I looked at the comments in here and people were like, yeah, I wasn't anti-Semitic, but I like want to, we should gas this kid.
You know, like, the comments.
The comments were like, were brutal, right?
I didn't say it.
I said, the comments was like, I said the comments were like, were like actually like, actually anti-Semitic.
And everyone was saying like, yo, I don't want to hurt this person.
I was going, it was like calls for violence, right?
And I was like, I was laughing because I was like going, people just hate like this sort of fake, you know, everyone hates a kid that's 14 going on 60.
You know what I mean?
It's like, that's absolutely, it's diabolical.
But I don't think those mean things towards this kid.
What I do think is, what I did bring up, though, I shared this clip and it ended up getting like maybe 10, 15 million views.
I shared it and I didn't say anything violence about Jews because I never would.
But I said, this kid's like really young.
Are they doing the voice like the gays do it?
Because I have a voice, like an LA voice, and I have a very LA, you know, camp style or whatever, because I'm from there.
But, you know, you do meet the gays from there that are like, you know, I have a kind of a fake gay voice.
I have like a Cali girl voice.
But they'll be like, ah, you know, whatever, that whole thing.
Are Jews faking this?
Or like, what is this, this whole like culture, you know, and like, yeitza, where does that even, is that Brooklyn?
I hate about all these like chest-stumping, like, white people is they take no accountability.
Like, I see a lot of people say, I'm a big fan of Ye, I'm a big fan of Andrew Tate, and I see a lot of hardcore pro-white people say, Those are black people.
You love, they stood up to their Jewish managers, they stood up to their Jewish handlers, and the same people make excuses for someone like Matt Walsh, you know, for all these people that are going to beat their chest and talk about the white man, this, the white man, that.
Then you go and you're holding Ben Shapiro's hand at the State of the Union.
Then you go and you're in tow with Elisha, practically, with Ben Shapiro, who's this big at the Trump's address to the joint session.
So, you know, these people like Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh are Catholics.
But Matt used to show his cards a little bit more when he was at the Blaze.
And then, you know, it's like the way that you can get bigger is going from the Blaze then to like Daily Wire then to like Fox, right?
It's like the ascension into heaven, basically.
Or some might say, you know, to Judaistic control.
But yeah, but Matt's one of those interesting people.
Like, I don't know why.
When he unfollowed me, like, around the October 7th stuff, I don't know why he unfollowed me.
But it's like, we've been on shows together.
And I always thought that was weird because he didn't unfollow me during any controversies or accusations or any of the weird things that people have done.
It was like around a certain time where a lot of people unfollowed me.
And I just wondered, you know, I wondered if there was an edict that went out.
I know that, you know, obviously, I can't say who, but I have friends in that company, you know, or that did work in that company.
And they would say, you know, that Jeremy doesn't like you.
You know, at my old job, Jeremy tried to get me fired multiple times.
You know what I mean?
Like, these people are genuinely vicious and disgusting people.
However, I do just say with the Ben Shapiro thing, it does make me upset because someone like Matt is highly intelligent.
I can tell by the way he talks that he knows that white people are under attack.
He does mention it sometimes, and he could be such a force for good, but he neuters himself for money.
And it always upsets you because we all kind of do.
So no, no judgment.
I mean, or safety or protection, whatever we have to do it.
But like, why are we pretending like Daily Wire isn't kind of a part of the problem?
And Matt, I feel like Matt could be big enough independently.
I don't think he needs it.
You know what I mean?
Look at Candace.
Look at Brad Cooper.
It's like, Matt, you know, you could just be on your own and probably, you know, you don't need that protection.
So that's my statement to Knowles and to Matt.
You don't need the Daily Wire.
You don't need this Judaistic, Judeo-part of your Christianity.
Be Christian.
You know what I mean?
It dims your example and who you are because we know I work here.
You work there.
We know what's going on.
And they're not even going to respond to us.
They wouldn't even acknowledge this statement.
But the point of the matter is, it's like more people need to break free.
That's actually like pretty, that's some dedicated diabolical shit right there.
Okay, so to kind of, I want to talk about, I mean, we'll probably wrap this conversation up in a moment here because I know people want these shows to go on forever, but we're not.
Okay.
We need to get some food.
We really need to get some food.
But the matter is with the Trump thing, just a couple of minor things.
I don't want to give an insight into our personal conversations, but I do think that, you know, Trump aside, all this stuff, obviously all the weird, you know, he is bought and paid for.
They call him Zion Don.
I already know that.
I already knew it was going to happen.
I do hope we get into the war in Ukraine.
I really do think we might get that.
I want to see young Christian white men stop killing each other over senseless wars for what?
For the Jewish president, right?
I mean, that's what's happening there.
And, you know, we got two wars the U.S. is funding, both led by Jewish presidents, you know?
It's a very interesting thing.
However, it's not related.
I want to get a little esoteric here as we add a little personal, a little emotional here in the fact that I think that you're winning.
I do.
And I know that when you're in this, it doesn't always feel like you're winning because a lot of people are getting a lot of money and a lot of opportunities that you're not getting.
And they're just saying what you said.
But even a little bit less direct, even sometimes, maybe a little more dishonest.
Maybe I'll throw myself under the bus and say maybe I'm one of those people.
But I think what you've said to me personally was like, I exist, sort of, you exist to set the standard of like, what is truth?
And you have no sponsors.
You're not beholden to anyone.
You are beholden to the truth.
And the people support you for that, right?
It's a luxury, but it's also a curse.
It's also, it's a prison as well as it's freeing, right?
But I do think, and I want to get your take on what you think about this.
I do think that your existence is a net in the win and that the things you're saying are becoming mainstream.
And I just feel kind of sad a little bit that maybe you're not going to be the one reaping the benefits.
Sometimes it's the first one to the base is not always the one that takes home the date type of thing.
It's like you may not be there.
But I do think I would get your opinion.
I do overall think your consistent messaging has played a significant role, just like Tates has played a significant role in waking young men up to not being pussies.
As much as he's, they want to kill him too.
But all I was going to say is they did try to kill you.
And I don't know if you feel like they're going to take you out before you see the end.
I mean, look, it's really a question of integrity.
You have an obligation as a Christian to find the truth.
You know, there's a Catholic doctrine that says there's no salvation outside the church.
And the way it's articulated is, you know, there's some people that just never know about Jesus and they're judged differently than people that do.
And if you hear about Jesus and if you're interested in it, you have an obligation to do the research.
You have an obligation to follow the truth and obey your conscience.
And as somebody who saw what was happening, as somebody who saw the truth, I had to tell it.
It didn't matter what order it was in, whether I was the first one to discover it or the last one, whether it cost me money or not.
I'm in politics.
I'm a spokesman.
I have to tell the truth.
Some people like to play games.
Some people like to say, well, you know, I'm going to withhold the truth.
I'm going to sort of strategically lie or I'm going to feign ignorance or I'll be willfully dishonest or willfully ignorant about these things.
And, you know, there's an argument to be made that.
Like, that's more pragmatic.
That's like tactically better.
And yeah, those people tend to do better.
And like, I look at somebody like Candice as an example.
And I like Candice.
I think she's doing a good job.
But she is somebody who, you know, she got banned on YouTube and then she started walking it back.
And like that was a smart thing to do.
That was probably the right play.
I'm somebody that's incapable of making plays.
I'm for better or for worse.
That's one of the criticisms.
I'm not somebody that's able to sort of, for better or for worse, hold my tongue and lie to the people.
And I'm not saying she did that, but that's how I feel when I don't say what's on my mind or on my heart.
And some people are going to play that role and some people are going to play a different role.
My job is to give the information and people that want to set plays and people that want to hold their tongue, they could do what they want with that information.
But at some point, somebody has to tell the truth.
Somebody has to say what's right.
And I say on my show, if I wasn't doing it, who would be doing it?
Who else in the space is talking about all of it?
100% about race, about Jewish influence, about Israel.
Who else out there is no holds fucking barred saying all of it and getting the worst of it?
Because I really have in every way gotten banned and debanked and blackballed and blacklisted.
Like it's even though Trump is slandered, like it is, it is remarkable to me.
Like I always wonder if it's actually coordinated because you know there have been paid coordinated campaigns to smear you.
It's almost like I wonder if some of these people are on payroll.
I won't even mention them because I don't want to give them any light.
But you have this weird thing.
So on the good side, there is something a little bit ethereal and spiritual in that people hate me and then like I threaten to sue them or I sue them or they sue me and then the lawsuit's gone and then they don't will talk about each other.
People hate you and they dedicate their life to hating you.
And if you associate with you, those same people like all those same people will probably be attacking me for this, you know, whatever.
I don't care.
You know what I mean?
Say whatever you want.
I just assume because of the show, some crazy shit will probably be said about me in the next week or something.
It'll happen.
But how do you put up with all of that?
I think people want to know.
You know what I mean?
Like it's, you know, people don't even like to be made fun of and, you know, called gay or whatever.
But then, you know, there's just crazy fucking people out there go through deep, deep, deep hurdles and lengths to maintain that there is 99% of the information that's on the internet about you is just slanderous, fucking diabolical shit.
And I feel like it could take a toll on you.
How are you doing?
That's all I mean.
I want to go personally.
How are you doing?
Genuine.
I don't want to show your cards, but like, how do you deal with that?
You know, I mean, it's like, you know, because I mean, all those people, honestly, they're either stupid or liars or Jews.
And, you know, I don't even say, and when I say that, it's not me just being a tough guy.
I say fuck them when it comes to everybody.
I'm not even, I don't even do what I do for the fans.
I don't even do what I do for the people that like me.
I do what I do because it's the right thing to do.
And not to be the guy that's like breaking my arm, patting myself on the back.
I'm doing such a good job.
But it's like, the only reason I do what I do is because I'm just trying to get the information out there.
I'm trying to get the truth out there.
And people are, some people are going to love it.
Some people are going to hate it.
Some people love the way I am.
Some people hate it.
But I'm not about to start saying, well, I have to change who I am to accommodate some dipshit on the internet, you know, some retard.
So it's like, but this goes to the territory.
I mean, you have to be super narcissist or you have to be super self-righteous or some combination of the two.
Because whenever you disrupt the status quo, that is going to make people hate you.
And that's just part of it.
And, you know, I said even about the election, like I went against Trump and that was super controversial because everybody was voting for Trump.
Everybody was on board.
And I was the asshole that was out there saying, no, no, don't vote for Trump.
Trump actually sucks.
Or the Trump campaign isn't what it used to be.
Whatever it was.
And everybody said, oh my gosh, I can't believe he's saying that.
And now I turn out to be right on all those things about the mass deportations, about the H-1Bs, about the Israel stuff, turning Gaza to the Riviera, the Middle East, the war with Iran.
And people say, oh, I can't believe you were right.
I can't, I bought into it.
I can't believe it.
And I say on my show, it's not because I'm smarter than these people.
It's that I just, whatever that gene is, whether it's narcissism, self-righteousness, whatever it is, I just, I don't care what other people are going to say.
I don't care what other people are going to think.
This is how it's going.
I have to say what's up.
And you need people in public life that have the courage to say what they feel and not, you know, that's why I feel like I'm a trustworthy person because I'm not always trying to convince people of things.
I'm just kind of being me.
And people, you know, they judge me.
People have a problem.
You have a problem with I don't have a wife and kids.
I just told you that I would want you to have the blessing of having offspring.
Plus, do we need little Nick Fuentes's?
Probably.
You know what I mean?
But not having a wife thing, not wanting a woman in your home.
Look, most men would know.
Men want to make the babies and they love having offspring.
But, you know, having women around all the time is a job in itself.
You know what I mean?
Women deal with periods, mental breakdowns.
They deal with the menopause, pregnancy.
And what do men deal with?
Women.
So it's like, it is an understanding.
But I love my wife.
And that's all great.
But I do know even Paul said, right, about not to get, I mean, get married if you can't control yourself.
But if you can, it's better to be single because then you can get more done.
And the Bible, everything it warns about, about even the end times, right, about the coming judgment is like, pray that you're not pregnant, you know, or with child, basically, because it's, you know, things do slow you down.
So maybe it's, maybe it's good too, because maybe they'll try to kill your wife and kids, you know what I mean?
Like try to get to you through that.
So maybe, maybe, maybe you're saving people from harm.
But the disagreement, the thing with you, though, is like, I still disagree on the not voting for Trump, but I also agreed with your points, what you said.
Like, I already knew, look, I even told my audience, look, the main reasons why I'm voting for him is I think he's going to end the Ukraine war, which I'm still hoping he will.
And also, I'd like my investigation shut down and I'd like my friends to not go to prison.
I knew he was going to, he said he was going to pardon.
So there's a few of those things.
However, look, no one could deny the $100 million from the Adelson.
You knew what was going to happen.
$100 million gets you some serious sway in the United States.
You know what I mean?
Look at Elon Musk.
He's essentially an unelected bureaucrat that can do whatever the fuck he wants now.
And do you think he's going to get investigated?
Do you think the data breaches at Tesla are going to ever be spoken about?
Do you think he's going to have any restrictions on his rocket launches or on his building new facilities around the world?
I felt nervous about it on the day of the election because I was like, it was real.
You know, he won and I went against him and I knew I was going to be outside of the of the pyramid, you know, because you become president, you're at the top of the pyramid.
And then during the inauguration, everybody was really high on that.
And I was thinking, oh, damn, did I like mess up?
But hey, I mean, every prediction about it was vindicated.
And not because we're sort of towards the end of the stream here, it's like a whole can of worms to open up.
But no, no, I don't regret it because to put it very succinctly, the Trump movement is out of ideas.
Okay.
The Trump movement is now in the capitulation phase.
It's in this resolution phase.
Every idea that came from Trump, every idea that came from the Trump movement back in 2015, 2016, has sort of washed over the country.
And everybody has an opinion on Trump.
Everybody kind of sees Trump for what he is.
It's no longer very dynamic.
And so the regime has accepted some things from Trumpism.
For example, protectionism.
You know, the regime is now accepting that we need trade barriers and we need industrial policy, like even Biden carried on with the tariffs.
The regime recognizes we need to reorient towards China, away from the Middle East and Europe.
So the regime has accepted some things, even restricting political correctness and wokeism.
But there's some things the regime has not accepted.
So for example, Trump was very much against immigration as a whole.
That's something where now Trump is more aligned with the regime.
And now Trump is in favor of legal, but not illegal immigration, best and brightest, you know, attracting the best talent of the world.
And so when I see the Trump movement, I see the future and I think it's tapped.
And it's now time, we always thought about the Trump movement in 16 is that it would be a stepping stone to something more revolutionary.
And so when Trump says America first, we realized Trump would never actualize it because Trump is pro-Israel.
And when Trump said make America great again, it was like an implicit pro-white statement.
We knew Trump was never in four years or eight years going to like make America white or make America pro-white.
We recognized that it was sort of a necessary step, delegitimizing the media, developing a white consciousness, getting people to think in terms of American nationalism rather than conservatism.
And so we always thought we're embracing Trump, but recognizing he's insufficient, we'd have to go further.
Now is that time to say we want something more right-wing.
We want something more Christian, more nationalistic.
And so when I went against Trump in 24, it was about recognizing that Trump is not the be-all-end all.
We're sort of at the end of the Trump era, whether he lost or whether he won and would leave office in 2028.
We're sort of at the end.
And we need somebody to start talking about what is going to be the next wave.
And we need sort of like a right-wing progressive.
And when I say progressive, I don't mean in a political context, but like in its real definition, like in the musical context.
I think of myself as like new wave progressive.
If people are still doing the greatest hits, doing the Trump dance and the fucking YMCA, I'm out of here saying like it's time for like just talking about the Jews.
But again, the only crime that Mike's ever committing there is just looking too good on camera, putting Van Man on his lips suggestively, which is always weird in the middle of the show.
Somebody just has Protestant Groiper with just a swastika as their, as their, as their, it's just, as is their profile picture, says, I can't control my Nikas and my Nikas.
Yeah, it's like, it's like sometimes these things are like, hey, could you, like, also, we've been like deleting people that are just like, like, somebody just like, just like, by the way, I tell you guys this, so you know, in the right chat, if you watch a show regularly, we just don't allow calls for violence.
Like, that's just not.
There's a line that I draw, and that's 100% the line that I draw because I'm not going to let you guys write stuff that's going to get me in trouble.
And you might work for the ADL.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't, they're going to do that.
Like, oh, there's all these people calling for death, you know, to our people.
And it's like, dude, don't fucking ruin the show, man.
People know I had a very public crash out about Sneeko.
But to be fair, I said that, you know, I just got out of custody from the Secret Service, you know, for, you know, I was in, I just got out of custody and I was like already pissed and trying to get my car back and shit.
And so, and then I get on and then I see that, you know, he made me lose a lot of money, right?
And so I guess, yeah, you know, you get pissed, right?
And then I realized it was because he was like wanting to hang out with Aiden or whatever.
But like, you know, I could have been more, more, what's the word?
Maybe a little more discreet or a little nicer about it, right?
Yeah, I could have been a little more diplomatic, but occasionally we all get it wrong.
I don't, it's not that I disagree with anything I said.
I just like probably could have kept that in a private conversation and been a psychopath behind the scenes.
That being said, lastly, someone said 88 bucks pronouns badass said all love.
And then he sent that in.
So thank you so much for that.
Anyway, if you want to find me, if you want to follow me, don't forget there's two ways that you can support this show.
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But an easy way, I think I dropped a link in the chat here.
We didn't get to talk about this.
We're not going to go too far into it, but I'm going to be, I told you last time I'm going to be attempting to get back into the YouTube game.
Yes, we're on YouTube.
Yes, we have some live viewers, but we're trying to grow a channel from scratch.
Then we're going to try to get monetized and then we're going to try to introduce some of this content back onto it and see if we can get back in there.
I just dropped the link.
It's pinned at the top of the rumble and it's also dropped in the chat there on YouTube.
Make sure you subscribe to the new YouTube channel because again, we have 550,000 subscribers and 1,000 live there.
And we have 50,000 on Rumble and almost 10,000 live there.
We have a lot live on X as well too, but that's a big account, so it makes sense, right?
I mean, it's got almost a million followers.
So I really appreciate you guys supporting the show.
But make sure you sign up to that YouTube.
Why?
It was a JuTube, whatever.
Yeah, but we also got to infiltrate too, you know?
They can't be the only one who intentionally diaspora.
And then, you know, we got to be out there too.
So thank you to that.
And also shout out to Black Magic's 95 sent $100.
Said Jews did 9-11 and invented communism.
That's a way to sign off the show.
Nick, if people want to find you, if they want to follow you, I know that you're on X.
I know that you're on Rumble.
Give me a chance to bring up your pages.
But, you know, final thoughts, final words, and tell us how we can keep up with you.
It's courageous, you know, and, you know, a lot of groipers give you some shit, but you suffer a lot of consequences for being my friend and for, you know, even taking pictures of me, having me on your show.
So I appreciate it.
Groiper should appreciate it.
But I think it was a good conversation.
I think you're right.
This is, we are winning.
Well, we, I mean, I don't want to, I don't know if I want to lump you in there if you don't want to get in trouble or whatever, but I think my idea is the Groipers ideas are penetrating the mainstream.
And, you know, it's just my job that I get dragged along with it.
I don't want to get taken out because of my baggage or because I was the first mover, you know, the first adopter.
But I'm overall optimistic.
I think that the technology, the way that the technology is, social media is a hot medium.
Now that we're back on it, it can't be controlled.
And I think it's a matter of time before this stuff becomes commonplace and mainstream.
And you can follow, I say go follow him on X because his link to his Rumble page is right there at the top of his X.
So it's rumble.com slash Nick J Fuentes, N-I-C-K-J-F-U-E-N-T-E-S.
For those that are listening to the audio only and are unable to see this again, that's rumble.com slash Nick J Fuentes, also at NickJ Fuentes on X. You can find the links to his social media in the description, unless you're on YouTube, in which we didn't want to get the stream taken down.
And it might still get taken down, but let's see how long it stays up, right?
Let's see how long before we get a strike or if we don't, because I don't think we said anything that could be controversial on this stream, right?
Let's just keep it slightly.
Really, the man who spoke the most tonight and really shared, really shared.
And I think we have Vince Lasagna said, great show.
Buy boners.
And so do we have, there was another one, I think.
Oh, then the 20 go.Groipers said, love the Nick Elijah content.
America first.
Christ is king.
And also someone said the antisocial and trolling behavior from Groiper's is also a bit off-putting and can be a bit discrediting of Nick's credibility.
I have to see a talented guy like Nick having his influence.
I hate to see him having his influence stained.
And Black Magic also sent one last $50 one said, win Nick 2.
Thank you so much, guys.
Appreciate it.
As it is a fantastic thing.
And you can watch Nick's show whenever he goes live, which is most nights a week around 9, 10.
