THE ADVISOR: How ONE MAN Changed the Trump Campaign FOREVER | Guest: George Papadopoulos
If you’ve been in Trumpworld for some time now, surely you’ve heard the name George Papadopoulos — but have you ever heard his full story? The man who they used to start the Russiagate hoax himself joins us today to talk about what HE saw in his time as an advisor to President Trump.. And what the future looks like for the 2024 campaign.
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You might have heard his name running around around 2016-2017.
He was a target of the deep state.
They wanted to sort of blame him for the alleged Russia collusion with Donald Trump back during his first administration.
But now he continues to turn things around on the FBI and the deep state, saying, perhaps you meant to attack me, but in the end, I'm the one who's going to expose you.
He's an author of a best-selling book, also a new docu series on the Tucker Carlson Network.
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Anyways, let's start the show.
I'd like to welcome to the show for the first time, author and creator, as well as somewhat of a bad boy in Washington, D.C.
I hate to say that.
George Papadopoulos, welcome to Slightly Offensive.
Yeah, so for people that don't know you, they may not know your background.
We're going to get into all this.
But, you know, you have this new show out right on the Tucker Carlson Network.
You are giving an expose.
It's got a vague title.
Can you tell us a little bit about what it is that this docu series is about and how you ended up making this?
Because we all love Tucker and we love the work that he does.
unidentified
Yeah, no, it's an incredible docuseries.
It's called All the President's Men, and it's a docuseries, actually.
And I'm episode one of a series that involves other former Trump advisors, including people like Rudy Giuliani, Roger Stone, General Flynn, others.
And basically what this docuseries is really all about, it basically highlights and summarizes the weaponization of both domestic intelligence agencies and global intelligence agencies against the Trump campaign and Trump administration and how that continued to evolve throughout the current day where the president has obviously been raided, indicted, and convicted and gone through the ringer himself.
So it's an expose of what it means to have the intelligence community, big tech, and the media collude to put their fingers on both the truth and our democratic process and how we as former Trump advisors and the president himself fought back against this.
Yeah, just let's talk about your backstory here because I've always found it to be really interesting.
I know that in the midst of all this, basically you were involved to some extent, right, with the original Trump campaign.
And I find this to be really fascinating.
People that don't know about this, they've been trying to take Trump out for a long time, even recently, right?
We have two assassination attempts, one at his golf course, another in Pennsylvania.
But they've wanted this guy gone.
And this all started for people who are Gen Z or new that may not have been around in the first administration, known what was going on.
There was a plan to discredit Trump by making it seem like he was only in office because Russia had rigged the election.
I want to remind people that this is before that we knew that they were fully rigging our elections.
This was before we knew that they were blaming us for what they were doing behind the scenes in 2020.
But I want to talk to you about this.
Obviously, you have a background in energy and foreign business.
And what got you to move from deciding to work in the private sector to reaching out to the Trump campaign and wanting to find your way as a policy advisor or foreign policy advisor to a political underdog like Donald Trump?
unidentified
Yeah, no, no, I'm glad you asked that question because when I was actually working in the private sector in Washington, D.C., there was no MAGA at that time.
When I was there between 2009 to 2000, late 2015, it was simply the neocons running the show.
A lot of my ex-colleagues were Bush officials, George H.W. Bush officials, Reagan officials, people like Scooter Libby, Donald Rumsfeld, you know, these type of Paul Wolfovits.
These were the type of circles that I was dealing with because there was no other show on the road.
And come to the summer of 2015, I realized that those people were not the future of America.
In fact, most of their policies were absolutely disastrous.
And we needed a change.
So I looked around, obviously, it's presidential campaign season.
I saw two candidates that really espoused what America was about: America policies, and actually pulling yourselves up from your own bootstraps depending on government goals.
That was Dr. Ben Carson and Donald Trump.
I first worked with Dr. Ben Carson's presidential campaign as an advisor.
He drops out, obviously, endorses Trump.
Then I joined Donald Trump's campaign.
And little did I know at the time that there was an active CIA operation targeting the Trump campaign that I in my book and has later been substantiated by great reporting by Matt Taibbi in the New York Post last April.
And I got caught up in this incredible spy scandal that I think we're still reeling from today.
Yeah, so part of the track on that, essentially the allegations are from the FBI.
They tried to make it seem, and I want to be careful in this.
I want to say how they portrayed to the media who you were, that you were some mastermind behind the scenes colluding with Putin himself, right?
That you had some sort of a back end road that you were sent in by Putin to collude with the campaign to try to push Trump into presidency.
This is during the Mueller investigation.
And I know that's not true.
I know that's not accurate, especially down the road with seeing how dishonest the DOJ is, how biased they are in their prosecutions.
I mean, before they went after people around Trump, now they've gone fully after it.
When you were deciding to go with Trump, were you aware of what kind of threat he posed to the establishment neocons and what you were getting involved in by attaching your name and your reputation to someone like that?
Or was this all innocent?
unidentified
No, look, I actually knew full, I was fully aware because when I left D.C. to join these two, I guess, outsider campaigns, you know, because I didn't start with Trump's campaign.
I was on Ben Carson's campaign first.
I was being told by colleagues and business partners in Washington and London, and where I was very active, you're crazy.
You're going to throw away your career.
This is absolutely insane.
So that was actually before during the campaign, just when I was talking about going.
Once I was officially part of the Trump campaign, it was actually the State Department and foreign governments, including the UK and Australia, that actually made it quite clear that they viewed Donald Trump as a pariah and a hostile person to not only international peace and stability, NATO, the UK that was trying to get in corrected at the time, the U.S. relationship with these countries.
So it was no surprise that these countries later on would have polluted with the Obama administration to take down an incipient populist candidate like Donald Trump before Mokla could ever be born.
And once he was elected, to continue down that drive to end up either peaked or convicted or thrown out of office in prison.
And that's really been the process that we've witnessed over the last eight years, unfortunately.
Okay, so I know what I've read, and I know what I've listened to, but I don't trust the media.
And my question for you is, what is it that the FBI alleges is the mistake that you made that was leading originally to them shackling and arresting you at Doulis Airport?
What was it that they were trying to accuse you of, I should say, versus what they actually accused you of by putting you in those cuffs?
unidentified
Well, see, this is really interesting, and this is a lot of what the docu-series is going to highlight for the first time ever.
They were actually trying to suggest that I was some sort of Israeli agent, actually.
I know this is coming out of left field because most people thought that had to do with Russia.
But in fact, what they were really doing is alleging this bizarre thing, just because I had business connections in the Middle East, that the only way that I had those connections was if I was some sort of agent.
I actually had brokered the initial meeting that Donald Trump had with Egypt President El Sisi in September of 2016 when I was on the campaign, just because of various connections I had in the private sector in that part of the world.
So they used that spine against me to then frame me with this guy, Joseph Mipsud, who's in my book, and you'll see it in the docu series, where he tells me all of a sudden, hey, did you know that the Russians have Hillary's emails and all this type of nonsense?
What the FBI and the DOJ presented to the world is that this guy, Joseph Mipsud, was some sort of Russian agent coming into my life in London and trying to give me during the pass on to the Trump campaign.
What was later revealed during the Durham testimony and by Matt Beats and Jim Jordan and various other investigations is that this person wasn't a Russian agent, but actually a Western intelligence operative sent to sabotage me and others.
So basically the entire story that you ever read or heard about regarding Russia, simply replaced the word Russia with CIA and MI6.
And look what they were doing against the Israelis.
And you'll kind of figure out that that's why they had not 200 people.
Okay, so this is the first I'm hearing about this, that essentially, this is during the Mueller investigation, right?
Is that the correct timeline?
So they were trying to show a con so the idea was that they were going after Trump to try to prove that there was a connection to Russia.
Why did they have an investigation about connections to Israel or Mossad?
Was there a hunch?
Because I'm going to say this.
I spoke to a congressman during 2020 at the Trump Hotel, which I'm so sad that closed.
But on a side note, he was telling me that there were some rumors that Mossad may have been involved, even with helping stop some of the computers from switching or tabulating votes towards Hillary in their first election.
Mossad might have been in favor of Trump.
That's what I heard from a congressman.
That was just an inkling, right?
And we'll just put that as DC gossip, DC rumor.
Other than that, I've heard nothing about Israel working on behalf of Trump.
So how the hell did we get from Russia to Israel?
And how did you get in?
I mean, we know how you got involved, but why would you be under investigation?
That's what I'm confused on.
unidentified
It's actually very confusing, right?
There was a, we did an expose story.
It was actually a cover story in the Washington Post magazine, I think in 2018.
And I actually relayed exactly in 2018 what I'm talking to you about right now.
And in this article I quoted, I said this was a British, Australian, and Israeli operation working somehow against the Trump campaign.
People thought I was absolutely crazy back then.
Then I rewrote the book, Deep State Carbhead, where I had the same exact thesis.
This all was substantiated by Matt Tahibi and Schellenberger in a bombshell report last April called, you know, CIA Spied on Trump campaign, something along those lines.
I highly suggest your viewers go check that article out.
And what I think was really going on is I don't think that the Mossad was actually working on behalf of Trump.
I think that they were working against him.
And the reason that they work against him is just like these other countries were working against.
And Trump was an outsider.
Trump was coming out the left field in many ways.
No one thought that he would be a predictable statesman, that he would have coherent policies.
So why would a country like Israel or the UK or Australia, meaning part of these five bodies intelligence community, help this guy?
And they didn't.
That's really been the major scandal that I think has been exposed here.
And unfortunately, now with this electron right around the corner, if Trump gets elected, I think a lot of these countries that were against him are going to be exposed.
And it puts them in a very tricky situation.
That's why you've had this a lot of pushback by Australia, a lot of pushback by the UK.
You have these reports coming out in the Australian, the Australian newspaper in Australia, The Guardian in the UK and others saying that blah, blah, blah, narrative once again in 2024.
And it's all because of this.
So it's not really that complicated.
You actually know the details, but unfortunately, so much fake info has been out there that people just don't really understand this aspect as much as the fake stories.
But so you're saying that Israel was working against him, allegedly at the time.
And so is that why they were trying, were they trying to infiltrate or find a way in?
Is that what the allegations are?
That Mossad was trying to use you as an inside?
Or was this all a framing or a setup in order to make it once again appear like Trump was working with manipulative tactics from foreign nations?
What is the benefit there of tying you to Mossad?
Because that seems rather weird considering Trump being so pro-Israel and being maybe the most pro-Israel president in modern history, which a lot of right-wingers disagree with his stance on that.
But still, that's a true stance.
He's very pro-Israel and very in the sand.
Why would they try to make some sort of a negative connection?
unidentified
Look, if you look at the Rosenstein memo, this was actually the official memo that launched Mueller's investigation.
It's in black and white ink that they were trying to charge me with being an Israeli agent.
This isn't something I'm saying.
This is actually in the Rosenstein memo.
During my first interview with these people, the FBI and Mueller, they were all asking me about Israel, saying that, you know, Israel is a partner, but we're going to bust your ass for your feelings with them.
A lot of crazy stuff.
I mean, and there's really only two options, right?
One is that my theory is correct, that Mossad was working with Australia and five eyes and the CIA to basically undermine Trump.
Or the other option is that our intelligence community was literally spying on the Israelis, spying on me, and we're trying to basically undermine the Nihon government, the Israeli government, for working on behalf of Trump through me.
I simply don't believe that because this would be such a scandal that they would actually post this publicly considering the intelligence sharing agreements that the U.S. has with Israel, the various agreements that the U.S. has with Israel.
For them to actually put that out publicly, I just don't believe it.
I could be wrong, but those are really the only two options.
Yeah, that's really bizarre to me because as we talk about this, you know, the first way that they were trying to take Trump out was by discrediting him, right?
He's just discrediting his election.
And it's been hilarious to watch over the last four years, particularly, you know, people try to seed the fact that denying the last election was a crime against humanity.
And I mean, it's just ludicrous that they were saying that, you know, when they spent four years denying that the election was real.
I mean, we've seen it around the board.
But you get pulled into this.
Here's a question I've always wanted to ask you.
You know, when Trump was asked about you, including other senior officials, they threw you under the bus.
They called you a low-level volunteer and also said that you had a history of lying or you were known to be a liar, something in that regard.
I remember him saying that.
And I don't know if that was true at the time.
I didn't know you, but it didn't sound like truth.
It sounded like someone throwing a friend or a colleague under the bus.
I've seen it.
I work in a shark media.
I watch people do this all the time.
People have done it to me.
They've done it to each other.
And we forgive them.
But you got publicly thrown under the bus by the guy that you put yourself on the line and went and worked for.
Can you, what, what happened there?
How did you get, how did that happen?
And how did you make that up?
unidentified
Well, look, first and foremost, you know, that happened with a lot of other advisors, too.
I think even General Flynn, he said he barely knew him.
He barely worked for him.
Once stories came out about him, the same thing with others.
He banned Paul Manafort.
He said he barely worked for him.
And look, and I don't have anything bad to say about Donald Trump for saying any of these type of things, especially what he said about me.
